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Wishful thinking because its absolving the LTRer of any responsibility in the relationship since it's already fucked before it's even begun because mystical Mr. Thunder Cock liked to pound her in to the dirt when he had a few beers. Let's be real and frank here. Some men are abusive but attractive men are not ANY more likely to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:22 PM
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No. Your reason is from your mind. Sorry to be precise number 1 is "lack of commitment" not lack of investment. Same shit. https://www.wf-lawyers.com/divorce-statistics-and-facts/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4012696/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:18 PM
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Yo why the fuck does chad have to slap her around, that sounds a lot like wishful thinking that all attractive ppl are bad people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:15 PM
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Depends what your goals from marriage are. Tradcon? Best to get married between 23-27, i.e. the lowest end of the "not to early and likely to divorce" but still early. Libfem upper class 2.4 kids? Doesn't matter as long as it's before 35 and after 25 Financial or business partnership transactional marriage? 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:14 PM
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the fact that most younger generations only reach that age during their 30s says more about the economy than anything else... The economy? Shit. In the prewwii era, so-called "financial stability" was the purview of a SMALL FEW. The fact that MOST couples can expect to be stable in their 30s says a lot about how fucking incredible it is to live in the Western world in 2021
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:10 PM
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The most common cause of divorce is money No, it's "not enough investment" and "growing apart"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:04 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 09:02 PM
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Plus the waiter thing isn't anything related to intelligence nor pessimism!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:50 PM
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Definitely an intelligent pessimist. I'd rather date an intelligent woman
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:49 PM
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Correctamundo
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:42 PM
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You're sus
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:42 PM
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but he clearly didn't know the depths. But she was a literal prostitute. How can a guy figure that out unless told lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:41 PM
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You mean the same age woman? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:17 PM
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It sure is what came out then
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/21 08:11 PM
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Have you read Haier? The Neuroscience of Intelligence? I strongly, STRONGLY recommend it if you're at ALL interested in neuroscience. Interestingly he mostly disproves the Bell Curve book which suggested G-factor would decline over time as more genetically intelligent people mated with less genetically intelligent people (of course couched in some pseudoscience about race and IQ). But Haier makes it abundantly clear that selection will undoubtedly improve human G-factor over time IN ADDITION to …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 09:03 PM
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Difference: love bombing = faking loving gestures to get a result Desperation: actually in love and doing over the top gestures to attempt to show it genuinely Neither is good
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 08:58 PM
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Well it's a big question isn't it. If the Dubs can trade Wiseman Wiggins and their new rookies for a star I'd say the warriors. If Tatum and Brown continue to improve to All Nba players, then I'd say the East is split between the Bucks who are better than the Nets who are better than the Celtics. The clips are fucked, the Lakers are too old. The Suns got super lucky. I'd say honestly the Nuggets, Warriors, Bucks, Nets, Celtics, Heat, and MAYBE the Mavs if they make a big move Overall atm though …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 08:52 PM
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Picky. But yes i would.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 08:49 PM
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2 Months ago: It has been 6 months since we had intercourse and my fiance still loves me just the same. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 Poor fucking dude
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 08:47 PM
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And seeing musician the size of tiny ant. 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 08:46 PM
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U can suck my penis for that opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 08:46 PM
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How so? You're in the honey moon period after a month. Fuck it. As long as you're not like giving up an amazing lease or job or anything, who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 08:40 PM
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By a lot. For sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 08:40 PM
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If it improves the clientele then the increased cost is worth it, but... That remains to be seen if that is the case
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 08:35 PM
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wonder if we're approaching an age in which men will be admonished to not "let themselves go" after marriage?! Already here. Any man who gets fat and lazy and then gets divorce raped has zero sympathy from me
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 08:34 PM
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The pretzel 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:47 AM
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Yea kindness is unrelated to looks
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:45 AM
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https://youtu.be/Gb2jGy76v0Y
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:41 AM
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I'd rather be a 5 in LA than a 10 in Stockton, so many better options and even if competition is fierce you're gonna do good with attractive girls just because it's a numbers game
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:35 AM
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League is objective enmass but very subjective individually. 10k people will rate a 7 a 7 but of those 10k some think the 7 is a 10 and some a 3. Sure but the bulk of 7s are asking out 7s
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:33 AM
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well as lifetime compensation for the chronic pain and illnesses pregnancy causes in most women. most women Lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:30 AM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:27 AM
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Oh, i knew some people in college who slept without a bedframe lol. Crazy people.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:27 AM
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Damn wtf why?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 07:25 AM
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Yes, i do all of those, i put in the effort. But if the result doesn't arise then i will not compromise on it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:19 AM
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Of course it is!!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 10:59 PM
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I'll be real with you my issue is the first one, i have my standards and expectations from a woman and if they aren't met, I'm not going to compromise on them, because i have those boundaries for a good fuckin reason. They aren't arbitrary like "she has to clean the dishes," they're more like "she has to be emotionally and sexually present" or similar
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 10:56 PM
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This is hilariously ironic. It's an older woman criticizing men, for criticizing old women, that criticize old men for dating young women. Thanks for my daily laugh 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 10:23 PM
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Low input, high output. Easy to use, easy to match, maybe you get lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 09:38 PM
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Yup. Good perspective
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 09:18 PM
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Yes, relationship pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 09:15 PM
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Your idea of normal is wack
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 04:24 AM
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Probably more than you do
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 04:24 AM
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There are like a hundred posts on here about being told that being nice will get you a wife
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 04:23 AM
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Lol, you've never seen incels complaining about being told nice guys will get laid? Or women complaining that all the good men are gone?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:58 AM
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Sorry, you're absolutely wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:58 AM
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BMI of 30 for an otherwise healthy active person is not going to impact health in any appreciable way. Most people with BMI's of 30 don't even look fat in street clothes. Not true at all
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/21 02:57 AM
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Hahahahaha! Thanks for my daily laugh at a self absorbed person on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:58 PM
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I mean most women don't make us wait 😂 it's the very unattractive ones who have to wait
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:58 PM
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Thanks for taking it for me ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:57 PM
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You could also choose to stop breathing until you pass out No, a physical impossibility is not even close to comparable. The same principle is not in play. Not even in the same universe -- you have to ACTIVELY CHOOSE what to consume in terms of caloric intake.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:57 PM
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Incels who are ugly act surprised they are single. Fat and ugly women act surprised they are single or have to settle for an ugly man. They might be self aware and lying, or genuinely surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:56 PM
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I don't agree that the abortion point is valid, paternal financial abortion is a very fringe position even for men to advocate
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:55 PM
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You're changing the subject now? You said "super obese" earlier now changing to "moderately overwt?" The average BMI is basically 30, that's obese and unhealthy. Having a bmi of like 26 is not going to give you diabetes, but having a BMI of 30 is likely to
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:54 PM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:53 PM
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But creating wealth wasn't an obstacle for me. I got all those skills just fine This seems to imply that most people can create wealth "just fine." When they can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:31 AM
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most women still ascribe to the majority of feminist doctrine in their beliefs and how they conduct themselves in every-day life. I don't agree with this in the slightest. Most women are egalitarian, not feminist. But yes, "trads" who engage in feminist behavior are hypocrites, no arguments there
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:26 AM
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so no, not a feminist but i do believe in advocacy for the rights of both sexes Precisely my point haha. Egalitarianism is socially and morally acceptable, feminism is not. And i think pink hair can look good on some people, lol. It's just an analogy to say pink haired sjw.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:24 AM
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I am not saying it's a moral failing to be fat, if that's what you're implying. It IS however self inflicted, as you do control the substances you consume. Drug addiction is a disease -- and also self inflicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:23 AM
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I mean they say they are.. Who knows if they actually are..
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:21 AM
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Dude. I think people who don't get vaccinated are retards. I've been vaccinated as well, and i got it as soon as it was available in my state. Hell, i drove 4 hours out of my way to go to the national guard tent where they had walk up vaccinations, because i couldn't get an appointment in my city. But laughing about unvaccinated deaths is abjectly morally wrong. Also id argue the 2nd most important medical breakthrough after soap was birth control but whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:20 AM
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Genetic differences? Wealth is correlated with IQ and attractiveness. Societal differences? I just explained why behavior is different. High IQ lower class people can jump classes, but it takes one generation more to be societally integrated. I don't disagree that class jumping exists. I do disagree that it can occur w/ a low class woman dating a high class man in 1 generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:19 AM
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Say nothing? Like, intentions? Bullshit. Most men are abundantly clear about their intentions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:17 AM
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I believe it does indicate genetic weakness. But if I'm wrong, substitute baldness for any other male negative characteristic-- weakness, short height, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:16 AM
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Human history dictates that women are special? Why, then, are women physically weak? Male strength doesn't mean males are special snowflakes either.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:15 AM
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Sure, the small percentage of people who are 50+ BMI are ACEs. Just like the small percentage of heroin addicts are ACEs. People who spiral down in to severe addiction (food, opiates, amphetamines, erc) often were abused That doesn't invalidate the fact that SEVENTY PERCENT of Americans of both genders are obese. Seems from the past comments you've made that you're a chubby chaser, no disrespect at all, i hope you're happy doing that, but you can't deny the severe physiological damage that resul…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:15 AM
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Oh, i use both shaming tactics and critiques of a misandrist ideology ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:12 AM
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Lol. Nah. Most women are egalitarians, only a few are feminists. Biiiiiig difference
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 08:11 AM
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They try to adopt the beliefs and culture, and most of the time fail at doing so. My dad was new money, and he was not "accepted in to the circle" so to speak, due to his traditional, poor, southern upbringing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 01:05 AM
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Sure, it does. Feminism has been coopted by radical leftists. Rational women call themselves egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 01:04 AM
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Is anyone claiming they are surprised by this? Yes. Incels whine about being single as do LVW (obese, ugly, etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 01:04 AM
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Oh, yes, yes it is, it's something each gender is naturally good at, which is not done by us except as a genetic fluke of having XX or XY. Birth is cool. It also doesn't make you a special snowflake or more valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 01:03 AM
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Great. I hope they do reject the label, because the label has been associated with the pink hair SJWs. I'm all for equality/egalitarianism. And I'm against feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 01:02 AM
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Not as effectively, no
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/21 01:01 AM
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"Have you ever seen a fight? It's impressive as fuck. I'd love for you to get head kicked in the face with little to no assistance, have to be woken up and walked out of the arena with zero meds as a crowd jeers at you." See how stupid your comment sounds? Lmao You aren't a special snowflake because you have a uterus. I'm not a special snowflake because i can fight. Inherent gender characteristics don't make you impressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:48 PM
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Of course I'm thinking socialized behaviors. That's the whole point haha. Socialized from birth or childhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:46 PM
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Lol? I just told you i understand. Women can and should have high standards. As should men. But if you're a 5'3 man or a 250lb woman, don't be surprised when "single vs HVM" choice turns out to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:45 PM
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I found associations of the term "feminism" with man-hating, lesbianism or lack of femininity was a key factor in rejections of the label "feminist". The majority said they did not want to call themselves feminist because they feared they would be associated with these traits. Precisely...
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:44 PM
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Great, literally don't care. Still a tabloid. Come back with a study.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 11:43 PM
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Yes, i was referring to the former statement not the latter.. 6% vs 9%? Pretty dam close. The pink hair SJWs are the former lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:55 PM
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Except it is a self inflicted trait on the surface level (as even if someone burns lower or higher cals in their TDEE, they can still eat less and lose weight). I do agree that on a deeper level it's more psychological than physical. I.e. food addiction or compulsion. And they deserve sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:55 PM
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Sure, i just don't like the fact that in your OP you assumed everyone can accumulate wealth easily
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:53 PM
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Um, no I'm not? I'm having a discussion about dating standards, on a debate sub, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:53 PM
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Stereotypes aren't reality. But UC people behave differently than LC people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:53 PM
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ACEs are a very big problem. However I'm not sure why you bring them up in a discussion about obesity. I'm sure there is some sort of correlation between ACEs and compulsive eating/other addictive traits like drug abuse, but in a vacuum obesity is bad. High ACES scores are causally related to diabetes, heart disease, hypertension, depression, anxiety, eating disorders, and early death. Can you source this claim please? I have seen evidence that ACEs are related to anxiety, depression, addiction,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:51 PM
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I did not say that either... Sigh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:44 PM
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In her opinion. Adele likely wants to date a super HVM. I don't blame her. Hell, i don't even blame an ugly, obese, NOT famous woman for wanting a superHVM. Everyone can have their preferences. I just have a problem when they bitch and moan. Same w incels who have standards of hot thin girls when they themselves are barely a 3
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:44 PM
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I mean yea i had parents divorce and most of my family members have shitty marriages so I'm probably never going to trust anyone even my gf who i intend to marry, but I'm not sure what that has to do with wealth accumulation?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:42 PM
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There's no clear segregation of behavior between the upper and lower class No offense, i genuinely don't mean to be rude, but this is what a lower class person would say
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:41 PM
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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47006912 Looks like the number has risen, but it's very far away from 61%. Less than 1/3 of that. Vox says 18% https://www.vox.com/2015/4/8/8372417/feminist-gender-equality-poll
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:40 PM
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Obese people deserve respect. But it's also necessary to be abundantly clear that obesity is a negative trait. In dating, to be sure, in both genders as well. But crucially, health wise. Utter garbage like HAES will cause the deaths of millions if mainstream. Obesity is causally related to diabetes, heart disease, hypertension, depression, anxiety, eating disorders, and early death.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:39 PM
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By choice. Which is fine, no shame on her. But you're willfully ignorant if you think she wouldn't find a man if she wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:36 PM
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But creating wealth wasn't an obstacle for me. I got all those skills just fine About 20% of Americans are intellectually incapable of skilled labor, even in the trades. 13% of Americans are even denied entry in to the Marine Corps (ASVAB score too low to join) where you can literally be a grunt. Another 20%-ish have extremely low big 5 trait conscientiousness, and are incapable of taking advantage of their intellectual capability to do skilled labor. 33% of Americans have college degrees, of wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:34 PM
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Lol? A shitty tabloid cited shitty statistics in a tiny english town, yeah. Proof that all women are evil!!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:30 PM
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Lifting heavy things because you're naturally strong is equally unimpressive as giving birth because you were born as a woman with a uterus
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:29 PM
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😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😂😂😂 taliboomer
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 10:02 PM
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And it is my responsibility that I put the necessity safeguards to get divorced quickly and effectively if it comes to that. Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:59 PM
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behavior isn't related to or indicative of their class. They're just behaviors. This is false. Behavior is highly related to class.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:56 PM
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and it's much more important and impresive ....lol Men aren't inherently superior. But being able to get pregnant is not impressive 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:54 PM
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"Tee hee dead people tee hee" How evil can you get??
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:50 PM
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Because most deaths before the vaccines were urban, and urban voters are overwhelmingly democrat
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:50 PM
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I gave a homeless guy a $10 because his sign said "help please" and i asked him what he was going to spend the money on, he was clearly in withdrawals, blank super pale white face, shivering, runny nose, etc. He said he was going to get some heroin. I gave him the money because he was honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:48 PM
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No. About 40% are. Still significant. Not most.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:46 PM
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tmz.com/2020/12/23/dr-dre-prenup-divorce-nicole-young-spousal-support/ Debacle? Sounds like both parties got a fair deal and the prenup was upheld. Dre got to keep all his assets, and his wife gets to live a lavish life for free because he didn't ask her to waive spousal support
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:42 PM
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wagie 😂😂 best insult
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:40 PM
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Idiot. Jayz > dre (jayz and beyonce have a postnup with infidelity clause, prevents him from cheating and also upholds both parties assets)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:39 PM
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Sure, but that's not what i said! I said settle down EARLY. I agree most people of both genders do ho around a bit and then get tired of it and go for a LTR... Just hope for their sake both LTR members are similar Ncount ha. The problem is an extreme mismatch.. Like a programmer who's had 2 gfs in his life dating a woman with an N of 35, when they meet at age 32 and she wants babies immediately. If they met at 22, itd be a different story.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:38 PM
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I mean i don't disagree, i wrote in Vermin Supreme and voted downballot republican, in a (sort of) swing state trump lost ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:35 PM
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In women's minds. Not in men's. We categorize a woman immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:34 PM
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Saaaaaaaame, love that tik tok about "omg my bf would never like me that muscular" And the other woman replies in tune to the music "Because your boyfriends a bitch"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:32 PM
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Dude, jeff looks hot af now lmao. He had that one pic in a vest and aviators and he was looking ripped
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:32 PM
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and the joke goes over her head
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:31 PM
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To be fair that's a trash tabloid, but i wouldn't necessarily be surprised if this came out in a real study either
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:30 PM
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Exactly my point haha. Ergo, rising up in social class among hot women is very rare because they make a fool of themselves. I'm a solidly UMC man with a higher end MC/ lower end UMC woman and ditched a LMC gf before, because of the reasons you elucidated.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:26 PM
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You missed the third option; ltr someone before the leftovers are all that is left
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:26 PM
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90%+ of men want a family & kids Just because men want sex on the way doesn't mean we aren't discriminatory on politics. I'd never date a Berner nor a Qanoner
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:25 PM
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Well they're wrong... I'm a man btw... Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:24 PM
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Well yes. Politics, niceness or asshollery, etc are all irrelevant to whether short term attraction is present. But it does matter for long term attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:24 PM
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Screw? Sure, if it's hot. Date? Nooooo way.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:23 PM
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Just because progressives are fucking awful at economic redistribution programs does NOT mean that their intentions are inherently bad. Just like just because republicans are fucking awful at instituting lower taxes and lower spending doesn't mean the intent to do that isn't there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:23 PM
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For fucking, sure. For LTRing, no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:21 PM
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While true, the gender disparity isn't that large, among whites at least (among blacks it's a lot more; about 4x to 6x black men are R compared to women D)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:21 PM
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Pretty broad brush of conservatives there. And i say this as lib center. I know plenty of morally strong conservatives just as i know plenty of morally strong liberals. Qanons and SJW Antifa types are rarer than the media would have you believe.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:19 PM
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My bad. Hard to tell whos trolling on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:17 PM
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Thankfully, the crazy femenazis are very uncommon, about 6% of women self identify as feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:16 PM
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Jesus f christ. Please go to therapy. No, men view some women as superior, some as inferior, some as equals. Like all other humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:15 PM
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is dangerous for women to pair up with a man who views her as fundamentally inferior. Wait a sec lol. Why does hypergamy exist then. The basis for it is dating a man who's superior to you in one or more facets..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:15 PM
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Yep, more infant mortality due to male parental abandonment, more infanticide by scorned lovers/presumptive but not actual parents, etc. In preagricultural society, i mean, not modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:12 PM
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Lol. Nope. She can do whatever she wants but if she passes my boundaries I'm done, that's the opposite of controlling
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:05 PM
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Sure it does. It's called being stood up on a date
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 09:00 PM
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I hang out drunk with a bunch of male friends all the time without anyone having sexual motivation. Then we would absolutely not be compatible in a relationship. That is completely unacceptable. A barely knew any of them it might be odd She knew the birthday boy, but not his 5ish friends. And why jumping to sexual assault is also completely crazy A had been assaulted before is why K jumped to that. K didn't feel comfortable with her doing that. It was his right to be uncomfortable with it. Just …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:59 PM
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No, it isn't. You can ghost texting, or calling, or dming, skyping, or even a weekly coffee date. Ghosting is simply going nocontact without warning.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:56 PM
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Yes they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:55 PM
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Both genders have things they care about in a shallow sense. Sure but that doesn't invalidate his point
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:51 PM
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.... Duh
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:50 PM
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That's not ghosting... Ghosting is not showing up to the theater in the first place..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:43 PM
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Lol? How the fuck is being drunk in a hotel room alone with multiple guys harmless? The snap is more harmless i agree, and although my friend did get upset he didn't break it off. but the K and A situation? I think K was more than justified.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:42 PM
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Wow interesting. So you'd say the first scenario was less justified in breaking up than the 2nd? I have the opposite opinion. Very interesting to see how opinions differ. I think the bday party is a very sketch situation compared to a not sexy snap being sent-- after all, alcohol is involved! You never know what could happen with alcohol involved. Anyways i agree not everything is a shit test
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:41 PM
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Most RPs NOWADAYS don't want plates, i should say. And no shit they invented the term. Who cares about the term. The action is what matters and PUAs prefer that action (multiple side chicks)
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:38 PM
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Yes, women are cool with going half. You are mistaken on what BBing is. Going half aint it, chief
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:37 PM
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Yes thats by definition not BB..
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:37 PM
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I mean really anyone can at any time based on any form of communication tho
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:37 PM
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Ogremax 😂😂😂 Yeah the combo def isnt good
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 08:33 AM
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I don't agree unless it's an extreme case like the one you stated
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 06:04 AM
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but as soon as things go south or they have a few drinks, that's when their real personality comes out. And you don't think UMC men see that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:14 AM
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I thought you said broke 😂 now you're adding personality and attractiveness to the mix
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:08 AM
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Sure but that's like top 5% height no?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 05:06 AM
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My main standard is dating an intelligent and attractive woman, and how i vet is education level. I'd compromise on dating a woman with a masters or above if they were clearly intelligent enough to obtain a grad degree yet actively chose not to for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:11 AM
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Damn. I'm sorry he's ace. I'm on the ace spectrum (Low-med libido and demi), what did you end up doing? Open relationship? ENM? Just masturbate?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:10 AM
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Men can pull the bald look off IF AND ONLY IF they have good facial hair
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:06 AM
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Idk. I'd say women would rather date a 5'7 man with nice hair than a 6' man with a receding hairline
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 03:05 AM
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Central asian i assume? Tajik maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:57 AM
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Yea op is even talking about her paying half, hows that BBing?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:38 AM
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If she is paying 50% then aren't you not a BB?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:38 AM
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I mean you said "boundary crossed" so I'm just curious about what that is that WOULDN'T be "relationship ending status." Like my best friends other friend (call him K) had a gf (call her A) and she was going to a birthday party of one of her male friends and it turned out to be all dudes. A's male friend and A had never done anything & A was much hotter than her friend, but K was sketched out by the fact that there were like 5 or 6 dudes there (justifiably so I'd say), so K asked A to leave the …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:31 AM
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Sure. Makes sense. I'm just warning you that while that's a necessary determination, it's not sufficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:22 AM
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That doesn't confirm TRP lmao. If anything it's more evidence for black pill. But it doesn't confirm anything except for the self evident fact that women like hot men more than nice men
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:21 AM
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Well it depends on the woman, but yes, you're right most girls these days want an attractive man. My gfs cousin is probably a 5 or 5.5, and her bf is probably a 4, or maybe even a 3.5 (i.e. 40th percentile or 35th), and she says her cousin complains to her about how her bf doesn't look good on IG; even though he's apparently a really cool dude
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:20 AM
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No way!! She'd never respect a simp
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:16 AM
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It makes it irrelevant because only idiots would say RP things IRL. So sure, you weed out idiots which is beneficial, just don't think you're actually weeding out the smart RPs. I am neither super smart nor RP, btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:15 AM
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Oh give me a break, hypergamy is not related to marriage or LTRs but rather people maximizing their options and leaving a previous mate for them. Holding frame is not antagonistic or fighting an enemy in any way -- unless you believe weakness is the enemy, in which case everyone of all genders should hold frame because weakness IS the enemy. Shit tests go beyond questioning motives, to intentional poking and prodding. Awalt is idiotic, I'll give you that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:10 AM
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Good analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:07 AM
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Um, I'm not even RP, but even stupid old me understands that it would be absolutely idiotic to use terminology if i was RP.. There are plenty of ways to get rp things across without outing that you're part of rp, i.e. body count instead of N count; breaking up instead of nexting, bitching instead of shit tests, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:06 AM
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Lol, as if anyone says these things in public if they're an ideologue
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:04 AM
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Can you give an example of what is a boundary a woman might cross that ISNT going to normally cause an immediate "next?"
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:04 AM
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Lots of men and women are super insecure, I'd say about half even
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 02:03 AM
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True. Most men are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:56 AM
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Well, the root cause is impulsivity of course. But we know that's gonna keep happening. So the proximate cause is abortion bans. Either way it doesn't apply to me because I'm not stupid enough to get my girl pregnant. Even tho shes on BC i still pull out
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:56 AM
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I thought the RP consensus was that 80/20 would still exist even if all men were hot?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:39 AM
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Most RPs don't want plates. That's a PUA thing, afaik
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:39 AM
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Hegemonic is a strong word to use about an ideology which has 6% of women as adherents. Feminism is cancer but it's also not ubiquitous
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:38 AM
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Men die more because men do riskier things
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:37 AM
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"The problem" in that case would be, self evidently, the ban on abortion. There would be a lot of coathanger abortions too, sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:36 AM
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Fantastic outlook. I feel the same way, although i wouldn't consider myself redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:34 AM
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Friends cockblocking are the worst
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:33 AM
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Sure but if they put out then whatever
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:27 AM
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I'm not sure how that has to do with text volume?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:27 AM
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Huh? You asked what the problem with more single moms is. My answer: their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:26 AM
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The poor fucked up kids, man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:14 AM
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They're not banning birth control or condoms lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:02 AM
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Wishful thinking; there'd just be more single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:02 AM
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The link says Mississippi, you mentioned Alabama. This is confusing me, which state is trying to restrict abortion? I think restricting abortion is a bad idea and would only lead to more single moms. Plus it's authoritarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/21 01:01 AM
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RPers in particular, think men dont have standards because their loneliness might drive them to think "I wish I could have a girlfriend, I'd take any average woman I think you're confusing RP with Incels. I'm sure there is some overlap but when generalizing, i don't agree that RPs think this, i do think Incels do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 10:22 AM
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Guys arent just ready to drop everything and be with you 100% of the time Does anyone actually think we are?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 10:21 AM
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Is pumping and dumping the same as rejection? Maybe we should define rejection. What does rejection mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 10:18 AM
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RPers have a warped perspective that women are these gate keepers of love and relationships as if any guy would just say yes if we wanted to be with them I dont think RPers think any guy will be with any girl, just that more guys will date more girls than vice versa. Rejection hurts. No doubt. But also men are rejected far more than women. How is it unfair for you to pursue men, when men have to pursue you? Shouldn't pursuit be mutual/done equally?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 10:17 AM
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Yea they do lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/21 04:54 AM
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Meh. It's a plurality maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 06:26 AM
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This always makes me laugh because men also whine about gold diggers and alimony. lol Do men not realize that these sugar baby types are costly prostitutes? I mean sugar baby type isn't the same as not rich type lol My point is that disagreeable women make more money, and men like agreeable women, so for a man to have better success he should be the one making the bulk of the money if only so that his wife is agreeable. And duh i mean there's such a thing as prenups if a man is making way more a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 06:26 AM
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Lol i don't get compliments on my dick size because I'm not a weirdo exhibitionist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:43 PM
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The redpill framing of simp/alpha/beta is stupidity and has no basis in real life. Like i said in the OP I'm simply using it for wont of another term that so accurately encompasses the trope of "bumbling incompetent lazy husband who begs for sex." If you can find a better term, I'm good using it lol. as the "fEmiNaZis" you like to claim we all are. ??? FDS are NOT feminists lol. Feminists are sex positive, Lib-Fem, Lib-Left, Pro-Trans. FDS are some weird conservative misandrist group
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 09:01 PM
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CHUG CHUG CHUG
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 08:47 PM
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Most older women are sick and tired of men Anecdotes... smh Just because you're an older women who's sick and tired of men doesn't mean you're indicative of the entire situation
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 08:46 PM
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As if doing all of that, men, all of the sudden, would realise that quality women are the ones there and would commit to them. Exactly lol. Even if they shame all the sexually liberated women, men would still choose the exact same partners
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 08:46 PM
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Right, exactly. That's the best mindset to have
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 08:44 PM
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define real relationship lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 08:41 PM
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Delaying sex is actually correlated with greater relationship success and marriage The reason for this statistic is very, very simple -- religious marriage. In nonreligious marriage, it's not. Women will find simps who are willing to wait, if that is their hard and fast rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 08:41 PM
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There is no reason why a woman who is 21 cannot use FDS strategies there are women of all age ranges on there. The most used subs by FDS users are /datingoverthirty and /datingoverforty LMAO I sure do hope if there are 22 year olds on there they realize how lucky they are to be in the mindset of wanting something serious that young, as like i said, make hay while the sun shines and find your life partner while there are still young amazing men on the dating market. Also statistically speaking ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 08:39 PM
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I mean that's fair but it's not the usual situation, most girls are not 2x a day people. Hell, most guys arent. I'm not LOL my poor johnson would get so sore. I am good with once every two days or so, I care more about sex now as a bonding experience/mutual validation instead of like just orgasming. I had that mind set shift after going thru the casual sex game for a year or so, and being just quite bored and unfulfilled. Anyways I don't think guys should stand for anyone using sex as a bargaini…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 08:36 PM
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I kind of get what they're saying tho because there are plenty of men BELOW the beta level who envy a ball and chain at least THEY get once a quarter pity sex he gets to pay his only fans girl to say his name instead LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:21 AM
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Yep same I've wanted to retire at 40 or 50 before i even knew what a vagina looked like
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:17 AM
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It is laughable. More money, more flexibility, less stress, less conflict. More options. MORE vacations not less. Retiring by 45-50 instead of 70. Shit is just worlds better
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:13 AM
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I get their point they're saying that in general if you hire a housekeeper to save you an hour a day odds are you're just gonna work 1 more hour. But i guess it depends on the person. I'd probably spend it with my kids if i had them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:10 AM
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Yep. Matters to me too. I would not date a woman who didn't have a relevant college degree, it's just too much risk plus i need my mate to be intelligent in the first place. There are non educated intelligent people but it's easier to select the educated ones
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:06 AM
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and I’d much rather someone try to manipulate me by giving what I want than by withholding it. Honestly not a bad point lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 10:00 AM
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That's fair. Hence my disclaimer at the end. If you're a fan of STRs or ONSs, more power to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 09:57 AM
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I know 😥😥 i guess my gf is breaking up with me tomorrow, i should sign the title of my car away to her maybe she'll stay with me😑
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 09:55 AM
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Lolll We talked for hours over text and snap and i got invested, we had sex and i got invested. What is there to tell? If she hadn't had sex with me i wouldn't have thought she really liked me as much as she did. Pretty simple
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 09:45 AM
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That's fair if that's the goal lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 09:35 AM
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u/pre-dental23 Another one who married chad How many chads!!!!😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 09:34 AM
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Nah not even close to true, i dated air heads before and they just didn't cut it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:18 AM
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Fuck idk id rather be self aware than blissfully ignorant
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:15 AM
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a male just wants sex from you he would not make a good partner. Obviously. Did you not even read what i wrote?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:15 AM
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TRP absolutely picks doormats. As does FDS. No self respecting man will pay for every date at nice places for x months as you don't have sex with him. Personally I'd just assume the girl wasn't in to me and leave, unfortunately for her. Luckily i knew my gf was super in to me after the first weekend we met... Got me super invested super quick. FDSers are using a blunt instrument ("wait x time for sex and make sure they pay") to vet men instead of using their brains and seeing if the man is inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 06:01 AM
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If that is true, which i don't believe for a second, it's not as bad as i initially thought. However I've heard too many stories of "I'm too tired to have sex because you didn't take the trash out so i had to do it" or whatever. Really these women who do that are parasites who don't have the balls to divorce the person theyve lost attractiveness to because they like comfort and money. Not talking ofc about legit low libido women where men know what they get in to. I'm talking sex frequency looks…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:58 AM
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xD I'm a disagreeable nympho
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:56 AM
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Lmaoooo pretty much me. Although i was super extroverted already as fat boy so i did pretty decently, just with not attractive girls lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:55 AM
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No no my point is that they should date and marry (if thats their goal) while marriageable men still exist at their age lol. I met my gf at 22 and it's headed in that direction, and that's super comforting to know she chose me basically at the prime of her sexual life
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:54 AM
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Right. If you prefer using your mental time and energy avoiding disposable plastics go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:53 AM
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Certainly. FDS and TRP select for doormats of the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:52 AM
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Okay well neither should
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:52 AM
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The type of women they go after aren't necessarily BPD but the type of girl who is susceptible to negging, dread game etc is
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:52 AM
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Self understanding is never bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:51 AM
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Love how im triggering both trp and fds with this post. No, FDS teaches women how to select for men who are doormats.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:51 AM
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Wishful thinking? Lol. Try "apocalyptic thinking" I get it. Women don't want to be pumped and dumped. That is a valid concern. You know what the solution is? Vet your partners, especially meeting them via common social circle so pumping and dumping is riskier for the man (he will lose friends). But good luck with your strategy. No upstanding nonreligious, non weak man will wait 3 months to have sex with you. Enjoy Billy Soylent lmao. Except most FDSers probably just fuck their bf immediately any…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 05:49 AM
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Gotcha. Maybe i should talk about when i was fat and how insecure i was about that, and that i decided to change
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 01:35 AM
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I'm not talking about where the people who invented the tactics got the tactics ("genotype" analogy). I'm talking about the type of women that using TRP tactics attracts ("phenotype" analogy). I agree, trp attracts women. The wrong kind of women if you like consistency and stability.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 01:34 AM
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imagine the sex was mostly the same way for you both times, though, wasn't it? Sorry. Sex is very different depending on the partner. This is basically why i stopped going for casual encounters.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 01:32 AM
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Lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 01:29 AM
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But I lead all this with treat your mother well because no other women is going to love you like she does. That is great. You're a good dad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 01:27 AM
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They think that simply denying a man sex is the key - ironically, in a sexual market where attractive men have easy access to sex. Placing a higher price on access to their vaginas does not increase their SMV or RMV. Nor does sleeping with one guy while making another wait. This is important. This is the fundamentally fatal flaw in FDS
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 01:26 AM
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60 with growing medical issues, en empty home and no friends or family in sight. Most women will choose to settle with a a massive beta before that, despite what they may say. Exactly why FDS is a flawed strategy. Best make hay while the sun shines
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 01:24 AM
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Egg-fucking-zactly. Some poor saps are conditioned to think sex dies in a LTR. NO. Youre with the wrong woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 01:23 AM
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You must prioritize. To me, vetting a romantic partner is priority. I'd rather have a fulfilling relationship and be slightly greedy or selfish or consume plastics. You can't be everything at once. But you can be something.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 01:19 AM
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Improving fitness/career, doing shit that interests me for my own satisfaction, dressing well, and having an abundance mentality - sure, I’m on board. Game/pickup artist related crap, spinning plates, etc - I think it’s bullshit. Well there you go. You don't do the things which select for the damaged mentally ill BPD women haha
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 12:56 AM
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look at the ideal RP man as being 100% faithful, honest and committed to one person Wtf lol RP literally says sexual strategy is A-moral
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 12:55 AM
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they're both looking for slaves. TRP is looking for sex slaves and FDS is looking for literal slaves who cook for, clean for, and worship Not a bad analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 12:55 AM
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Right. And women should vet men so that pumping and dumping doesn't happen. I talked to my gf about it and she said she has never been pumped and dumped because she is direct enough to confront the guys she was (and is, she did w me as well) interested in and ask them if they were serious to their faces, but tell them that she was interested and attracted either way and that it's cool either way she just doesn't want to get the wrong idea. She said her N is 9 + me (mine is 17 + her) and out of t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 12:53 AM
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They are very effective in the early stages Yeah they're super effective to attract an anxious attachment style woman, a successful happy relationship involves secure attachment style.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 12:41 AM
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Yet their tactics preselect for mentally ill women. It's a catch 22
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 12:41 AM
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both are looking for is short-term fantasy fulfillment. I agree. This is basically my premise
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/20 12:40 AM
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You seem to be using "unhealthy" and "unsatisfying" interchangeably The unhealthy side of things comes when the man resents the woman for using sex as a bargaining chip. Also I'd argue that it's emotional abuse and manipulation to withhold sex in that manner just like a man withholding finances is considered financial abuse. I also disagree that a FDS relationship is either healthy or satisfying to the FDSer. You want to live with someone you don't respect that you're "using"? I agree about trp
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 11:15 PM
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hold out until a tall,handsome,attractive, high-earning, beta-alpha, simp Chad decides that a overweight, post-wall, 30+ year old bitter woman is who he wants to spend his life with. LMAO i have never heard it described more aptly than this
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:58 PM
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Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:57 PM
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Ah i see you're biased and don't care about discourse have a good day, cmvs aren't for you
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:57 PM
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This one is easy. It's because FDSers use sex as a currency, clearly. If the man isn't doing the dishes or whatever then the woman uses her vag as a bargaining chip to try to force him to. It's sick and twisted and unloving. If a woman wants sex with a man then she wants it whether or not the dishes are done - the dishes are a separate problem that she should address with him individually, and discuss to him how she feels like he doesnt care about cleanliness or whatever, but sex is NOT a bargai…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:55 PM
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Right, and the man is probably abjectly miserable with no sex and trying to appease his wife all the time. A marriage is a true partnership. A team dynamic. One positive TRP axiom is the captain + first mate thing. The captain loves the first mate. The first mate loves the captain.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:53 PM
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To hear counter arguments. Thats the point of a fuckin cmv lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:50 PM
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Yeah well most people who are in need of trp do not have good social skills lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:50 PM
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Cuz of the very sequential processes they purport to use in order to get sex, betabuxx (in case of FDS)...whether you go on TRP or on FDS it feels like Nazis ranting on Jews Yeah it does really seem like autistic nazis
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:49 PM
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These tactics take advantage of female sexuality, not a lack of self esteem. I disagree. You can't see the forest for the trees. You aren't being objective because you're exclusively using the techniques of TRP. Negging, dread game etc are not conducive to a healthy relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:48 PM
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Ie, if the alternative is being depressed and suicidal then the relationship can also be healthy for the man: he has someone to care for, kind of pet therapy. That's fair. If the man is truly happy then there's nothing wrong with it. I would contend that most men in those relationships are miserable, sick of getting nagged, and get no sex. Obviously if the wife is an agreeable nympho then those aren't issues... But most aren't
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:47 PM
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when TRP specifically disclaims LTR as a wise option in the first place? This is probably the best counter to my OP, is that TRP is not aiming for a LTR
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:46 PM
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Lol. Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:44 PM
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Sounds like she neutral to it and goes with you because you want to. That's a fair assessment. I just want her to be happy and like me without expressing any insecurity lol idk if that's the way to do it. It seems great atm overall so i cant be fucking it up too badly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:44 PM
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I mean no, you don't solely form a relationship on that. It's simply the spark that gets the flame going.... Duh
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:43 PM
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You're claiming that relationship traits result in unhealthy relationships. No my claim is that an exclusive focus on beta traits results in unhealthy relationships. On the TRP side the opposite. A healthy mix of Alpha and Beta traits is the prime position for a man to be in in a relationship and for a woman to have a man like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:42 PM
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t's not up to you to determine if those men are respected by their women, it's up to the men in those relationships to determine if they feel respected or not, and all signs point to yes. So men who get unenthusiastic sex once a quarter feel respected? Bullshit lol. They just are wimpy so they're too pussy to voice that concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:41 PM
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Or is just absentminded but yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:40 PM
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men have been scamming for sex for ages and women manipulate men out of money for ages This... This is my point?? Lmao Are you blind? Please re read my post so you can see this is exactly what my post is about
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:40 PM
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they're just shooting themselves in the foot by making men jump thru all those hoops. Right and a true HVM will not tolerate dancing like a monkey... Or being used for his wallet... Or them using sex as a currency
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:39 PM
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but women also try to bed down men they see as HVM quicker which they don't with others That's true and that side of things is the problem with FDS like i said
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:36 PM
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Basically insulting women to try to get them to feel like they need to impress you from what i understand
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:34 PM
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Lol so if I link you to a bunch of men on Reddit saying they don't do this and can't bc they are "not allowed for the one hundred billionth time, weird men on reddit is not real life, most men discuss feelings with their best friends ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:33 PM
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Unless TRP upped their game with dealing with comfort tests, As we discussed earlier that's what i suck at
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:31 PM
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Exactly my point
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 10:31 PM
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Thanks, i have :) been dating 1.5 years now
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:47 PM
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Its kind of annoying to know which is the right answer lol. I try to pull her along and she always goes along with my decision but idk if she really wants me to let her make the decisions once in a while
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:46 PM
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MGOTW is more like a square and TRP is a pentagon. Both are shapes but one is more complex and nuanced than the other
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:45 PM
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MGTOW is tangential but it is not a part of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:44 PM
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laments against women with "high body counts" while simultaneously hating women for taking time and getting to know a man before she beds them. You're very much mistaken, no one is placing a moral value judgement on women fucking quickly or after a while. My point is that men, RP and not, expect a woman to have sex with them quickly, if not on the first date - or else we believe she's not interested in us and move on. My gf had sex with me 24h after meeting me and said she never does that with g…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:43 PM
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Very good question... Probably just waiting until he uses some terminology i guess? I guess negging would probably be obvious and noticeable (and definitely not welcome lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:39 PM
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MGTOW isn't the same as TRP i think you're confused
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:38 PM
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The sad thing is, when they're dating a bombshell and getting put through the wringer, they're afraid of losing her because they think she's "high value." Yeah that's very sad. We should select partially for behavior, competence and career (atm women mainly select men on that not vice versa), intelligence, kindness etc
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:38 PM
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Lol its just multiplication and i used my phone's arithmetic calculator. I could do it in my head but that takes more effort lol. And yeah damn that's awesome! I'm lucky to have those same traits. As well as being tall. Complete and utter luck of the draw, i don't deserve a full head of hair or be 6'3, i just got lucky.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:36 PM
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On the spectrum? Why you say that? Narcissistic i agree
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:34 PM
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Therapy IS talking with your grandpa or best bud over some beers
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:34 PM
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It's like... any negative personality trait from women is going to be more tolerated from men than the reverse Yeah mainly because men care more about her body than her insecurities lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:33 PM
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Yeah i geel like I'm good at leading until i get some push back and then I'm too disagreeable even if i want to know what my gf wants genuinely. I'll look in to comfort application thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:32 PM
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Oh fair enough lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:31 PM
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ask them if they're seeking reassurance or practical advice before you answer. That's a good tip. I will use that, thank you. I usually just have assumed it's the latter
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:19 PM
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Looks like 16 million total in the US for trade school but can't find a percentage lol oh well. Still can't be more than like 50 or 60% who either have a degree or a trade school training. Also your SO was in the military that's like 2% right there... So 2% * 27% * 50% is literally one 4th of 1 percent (0.27%). So if you wanted a Mil-husband particularly you only had a 1/400 chance! Even if you say 70% had trade school or college then .7. * .5. * .27= 9.45% so he's still top 10% at the lowest!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:19 PM
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his dick Yep women's preferred length in studies is like 7.2 i think • his bank account Yep. Most Women are gold diggers more news at 10. So satisfying when you find one who has her own money :) • his ego I'm thinking you meant this as a negative but my huge ego has always helped me with women... Just not interpersonal relationships or the business world unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:12 PM
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but moreso because women just like confidence True. So true. Personally as a man i like confidence too. A huge turn off with my ex was her apologizing over and over for everything. Like she'd be 5 min late to a date and apologise for 5 additional minutes. Or when i asked her to please stop scraping my penis with her teeth because it hurt she got suuper apologetic and then refused to blow me again for a while lol (bjs are ruined for me by girls who use teeth lmfao)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:11 PM
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Most of the radically honest men are single too. To most people, radical honesty is synonymous with social ineptitude. I am the rare socially adept (in other ways, i.e. extroversion and confidence) radically honest man. Any tips for diluting my criticisms of people? Lol I tend to push away a lot of people due to this disagreeableness but bring a select few VERY close. My gfs have all in the past been appreciative of my honest criticisms. My gf i am dating right now who i aim to stay with actuall…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:07 PM
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LOL there are so many men human beings I've had to work with who cannot handle criticism even when it's couched gently.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:01 PM
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Perhaps not having the skills to say critical shit in a "less offensive" way. Because if you start having to be truthful, you're going to realize how good your communications skills are or aren't Can u plz teach me this ability I'm highly neurotic and disagreeable so I get bothered by things that are done wrong and am not tactful enough to criticise them kindly, I'd prefer to avoid being mean to my gf or family or whomever
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 08:00 PM
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A strong man acting vulnerable once in a blue moon is like girl crack, because it feeds into the fantasy of “taming the alpha”. Oh shit i didn't even think about that... Honestly i need to start feeding my girl some crack. I've not been emotional around her in the full 1.5 years. We've had 1 big fight and she was crying but i never did i was just staring. What do you recommend lol i cant really force myself to cry idk how.. The male version of the “taming” fantasy is turning a prude into a slut,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:57 PM
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Good. Don't expect anything to. Still, keep an eye out. Its ironic (the okc study proved this w/attractiveness of men rated by women vs message responses by those women) that statistically you'll loosen those standards by your early 30s and date and marry someone who doesn't meet those standards
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:52 PM
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Looks were not the issue. I was a bit shy, and more proper than my mates due to my upbringing. Doesn't matter how good you look if you don't put yourself out there. I see. That's fair, then. You were unsuccessful because of your natural introversion. Nothing wrong with that. I have introverted friends as well and i don't give them shit about having had you know maybe 1 or 2 GFs and no hookups. But i personally am extroverted, and love putting myself out there. I can't quite believe that if you C…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:48 PM
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Once I'm done with school, I'm a put together woman. That's great for your life goals. But it doesn't quite matter to men, certainly not as much as your physical attractiveness, maternal instincts, intelligence (not necessarily education, although education does correlate ofc) and conversational ability, and agreeableness big 5 trait. Not to sound conceited but I am not ugly or fat (neither overweight nor obese). That's good.. Neither am i... We are in the 27% lmao. Most people are. It's quite s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:36 PM
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Hey, I'm not saying you SHOULD settle. Keep your standards. I'm just saying don't think you deserve or are on the same level of attractiveness level as a "put together man" who's above avg attractiveness, has a college degree and isn't overweight or obese. If you prefer wine and cats to an attractive man who's a plumber making $120k? Go for it. Dumb to be so pedantic in your reqs, but you're you, can't fault someone for having top 5% standards. What i can fault you (not YOU but general "you") fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:27 PM
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Good analogy i used that myself a while back. You can be vunerable... Rarely, and if you have a lot of masculinity capital built up
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:22 PM
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Also talking about your feelings to your bros is gay, therapists are for crazy people, and you can just be tough through depression /s Gimme a break. Men discuss their feelings with friends all the time. Quit your sexist bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:21 PM
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I agree with this. I just proved that only 4.5% of men are a reasonable level of attractiveness to women (not fat not ugly and college educated) but i think if a woman wants to have a man like that or be single it's her prerogative. Just don't bitch about not finding a top 5% man if you're not a top 5% woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:20 PM
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I know plenty of women who’ve been sexual assaulted/raped/drugged etc but know zero men Of course you do. Women come out and get help from friends and men and therapists. Men do not. Men keep it a secret and then 20 years down the road eat a 20 gauge slug.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:18 PM
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Don’t be ugly Don’t be fat Go to college Yep pretty much too much to ask for unless you're a very beautiful woman. I am not ugly nor fat and i have a master's degree so it's not me being salty or anything. Just, as an engineer in a stat heavy field, i understand how rare those people are. Ugly? I guess you mean not below average right? So 50%. Fat? Do you mean overweight, or just obese? 73.7% of men are either. 39% of men are obese. College (bachelor) degree? 35.4% of men have one. Graduate degr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 07:15 PM
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How many women like that are left in this age of Tinder is of course up for debate. At 24?? That's still relatively young
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 04:22 PM
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This is simply a more conservative general mindset than my generation (Gen Z; tail end of millennials). but I never bedded a girl on the first night. I just wasn't that kind of guy To me this indicates that you as a young man were unattractive. It's quite surprising that any young man who has the immediate opportunity to have sex with an attractive young woman would decline it. I certainly RARELY did. am older than most here (Gen X), and back in the day, HIV was still a thing. Condoms were a thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 03:57 PM
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Interesting, why do your wifes ONSs bother you? Is it because you had fewer of them before marrying her so you feel like you missed out on experiences that she had? Meh i disagree that normal healthy guys want virgins or super low N. That's the problem with trp lol. They take a nugget of truth (high N= bad) and then dilute it to unrecognizability. High N is bad in one of two scenarios: first, the girl's had dozens and you can tell she's either low self esteem or low self control. Or: yours is si…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 09:56 AM
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exclude them from a relationship with the person they are interested in and then when the truth comes out later it turns into a huge shit show I agree but I'm not sure how they expect it not to come out?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 02:59 AM
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My gf has had 9 (3 relationships, 3 HS bullshit experiences and 3 college hookups) and i have had 18 (6 relationships and 12 college hookups). This is within the range of normal in terms of comparative experience. She has had enough experience to be good at sex while not having dozens, and the likelihood is still good that I'm the best sexual partner she's had, or at least one of the top 2 or 2. My ex had only had 1 LTR before me, at the time i think i had like 12 or 13. That was a bit more awkw…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/20 12:09 AM
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What man wants all the housework done by the wife AND she work fulltime?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:52 PM
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pipeline and it'll be even worse for the younger women and girls of today when they start desiring marriage Yep. It's true. Marriageable men amount is declining
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 11:51 PM
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people were well fed in general. Not really. The Plebs Urbana were constantly rioting because they didn't have enough food. Usually because of the Aegean being blockaded
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 10:20 PM
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A person does not have to be mentally ill to want to end their life. Sure they do
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 10:17 PM
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Ah damn wooww I would probably ditch that bitch fr, mainly for hiding it. Being raped isn't her fault but if you're dating someone you need to be open. The sleeping around is understandable too after being raped ("to gain control of your body again") but is still kind of gross that she was raw dogging it obviously if she got pregnant. Hope OP didnt get an STD
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 10:15 PM
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, I meant "I don't entertain any kind of nonsense" such as other men trying to flirt with me Ahhh okay that makes sense. That's fair. knew all about me and I guess he figured the compromise was acceptable Gotcha. Well that's good.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 08:15 PM
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He deleted his post. What was his issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:48 PM
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Yeah well there will be companies who don't
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:47 PM
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I don't entertain any kind of nonsense from other men. Let me get this straight so you expect them to accept your history of cheating. But you will not accept their history of cheating? Yeah, i would not have dated you. I probably wouldn't date you anyways since you're divorced in the first place, but certainly not if you cheated on your husband. But then, I'm 23 so i have a lot more options on that front. Also - i don't believe that getting closer to another man is an excuse at all, you should …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:44 PM
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Really depends on the area. Generally if you pick a good private it'll be better. I wouldn't mess with boarding schools
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:38 PM
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It's a joke lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:36 PM
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xD Have fun with HR
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 07:32 AM
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Dated a girl who progressively lied about her past to sneak her foot in the door of a relationship. By the time I was relatively “invested” the lies seemed irrelevant What exactly did she lie about? I'd be very suspicious and potentially break up with her immediately even if i was invested, depending on the magnitude of the lies and the magnitude of the things she didn't want you to know. For example if she revealed she had cheated, and had lied about it in the past, i would ghost immediately. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 07:20 AM
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Hahahahahaha If you knew me you'd know why this is so funny No dummy. Women don't want to be hit on on a professional site. Also, they don't want to be hit on at the doctors office. Or at the library studying. Or in a boardroom meeting. Obviously you do what you want but have fun with the sexual harassment charges lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 07:18 AM
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Lol yeah definitely not she's a christian too so I'm less religious as well
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 07:16 AM
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Women don't wanna be fuckin bothered on LinkedIn man gimme a break
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 07:16 AM
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Maybe. My gf is a conservative lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:59 AM
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https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/american-women-and-feminism Less than 1/3 sorry not 6%. That said most people believe in the "professed feminist platform" of egalitarianism, which ofc isn't how feminists act irl
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:36 AM
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Yep its the oldies who cheat lmao. Like literally just divorce if it's gone bad, fuck it. Unless you're too dumb to prenup lolll. Then you're stuck and it's immoral to cheat so bye bye ur sex life if you're an honest man
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:35 AM
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hy·per·ga·my /hīˈpərɡəmē/ noun the action of marrying or forming a sexual relationship with a person of a superior sociological or educational background. Basically - women tend to marry and date in LTRs men who are "higher class" or higher status within the same class than them. Ex: woman grows up poor? Her dating life is limited to poor, lower middle class to rich. Woman grows up upper middle class? Woman is limited to rich guys (by her biology). My gf is like this with me honestly, she grew u…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:32 AM
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No. If you were never attracted to a lesser man you just have high standards. Hypergamy is specifically moving upwards from a lower value man to a higher value man because you can
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:27 AM
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However feminism is still going strong. Pretty sure only 6% of women self identify as feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:05 AM
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Sure people will lie. But all you can do is relay the truth. Also you're thinking of the sexual number of partners study not the cheating one. They hooked people up to a polygraph and women's responses went up by 2 and mens went down by 2
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:01 AM
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Lmaoooooo We just killed one of our old retired dairy cows a while back and got 300lbs of ground beef, it's so good
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 06:00 AM
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I know. But how can another person know if they genuinely are a changed person? That's my problem. Did you ever cheat then reform then? What do you tell people to help them understand you changed?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:59 AM
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It's about 13% 18-24, then high teens 24-50, then men go up to 25% and women go down to like 8%. There was a nifty graph recently here... I can try to find it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:23 AM
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At least for some portion of their lives. Thanks for at least saying this. I did the casual sex thing for a while, it really got boring faster than sex with 1 loving partner did.... Over a 3mo semester a couple years ago i had 8 new sexual partners all of whom i saw reasonably frequently except 2 (i.e. fuck buddies), and after that semester i really slowed down on my pursuing because i realized it was just repetitive, unfulfilling, and risky (i.e. what if i make a mistake and bed a crazy, or wha…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:22 AM
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Right, you have to be a happy person single to be a happy person married And few singles are happy either lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:18 AM
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No, men will never be satisfied with the same women, even if there’s two. He needs variety as often as he can get it. As his greed grows so does his desire. No
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:15 AM
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To have sex with a woman is to ruin her, it is a dirty and vile act See you at Muenster, Jan Matthys
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:09 AM
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Our sex life was the most adventurous and satisfying when our kid was like 5-10. That's hopeful
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:08 AM
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Not true the stats are not caught men and women but rather self admitted men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:07 AM
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you ever read Gibbons' History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire Highly recommend, fantastic read
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:06 AM
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Masters in Economics What school of macroecon do you subscribe to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:05 AM
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Does your dick dance like Michael Jackson? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 05:03 AM
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Oh shit youre a rancher too? My family owns a small ag business
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 04:50 AM
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Does she hang out with them one-on-one? Does she seek attention from other men? Does she flirt, in person or via social media Right. I agree those are good red flags to watch out for, and that too many of them/ any one of them too consistently can spell danger even if the smoke never turns in to fire. Thankfully my gf's only male friends are coworkers who she only hangs out with at work, and has only done one hangout outside work which was a big group thing with 20 people (yeah yeah corona lol o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 04:41 AM
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Sometimes, yes. Sometimes, no. For example the First Punic war was not illogical because each power was encroaching on the other and could not agree to a compromise
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 04:32 AM
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Historically you don't get a choice in what wars you fought in, True and you most likely wouldn't even have a great idea why you were fighting anyways Not true
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:32 AM
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Yet no one would have to die if he was logical Great, humans aren't logical. More news at 10pm. It's funny how you men will bitch about the draft and how unfair it is to men yet defend war in your next breath I have a revelation for your tiny brain. Did you know? gasp that men can have different opinions?? I know it's hard to understand. Maybe if you ever get out of the basement and talk to some men in real life you'd understand that some men are anti-war and some men believe in war as a tool of…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:32 AM
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You shouldn't play mind games, but that doesn't discount a lot of truths from their ideology. Like any extremism it has partial truths
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:05 AM
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That's a great litmus test I agree. If the friend groups can at least get along, and hopefully have fun, then you're probably going to last. At the very least you need to be able to have fun alone with your SO and their friends
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:03 AM
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The response to Hitler was logical
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:01 AM
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So you would be happy to have fought in those wars I would have been happy to fight for the Allies against Fascism. I would have been happy to fight with Caesar against Vercingetorix and Gaul. I would have been happy to fight at the Siege of Vienna to defend the western world from the muslim scourge. I would not have been happy to fight in World war i due to the pointlessness of the tactics, but the cause was noble and just (on the Entente side). The 30 years war was the only one of those i ment…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 03:00 AM
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bubble if you think being disgusted with the widespread support that Trump garnered is unique to those "ensconced in IDPOL No, but being disgusted with the people who voted for Trump because you're incapable of empathetic perspective taking is ABSOLUTELY IDPOL. When we see ideologues with fascist tendencies At least you didn't actually call him fascist.. He is a right wing populist, not a fascist. Fascism is an authoritarian centrist political ideology comprised of very specific aims such as mil…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 02:57 AM
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I'm describing the reaction to the attack. Not the attack itself. The Empire of Japan was far from logical
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 02:48 AM
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a partner, I hope that our social circles can mesh somewhat well together Yep. You dont have to be friends with their friends but you at least have to be chill
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 02:46 AM
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Im not saying revenge porn isn't harmful. Don't get me wrong it totally is. But it is still incomparable to false rape accusations
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 02:03 AM
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;(
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 01:26 AM
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Thanks yeah anyways i definitely want to do something when I'm retired rather than what my dad did (he made a lot of $ in the tech bubble and retired but just has sat on his duff for 20 years and gotten fat and lazy) Maybe if i get lucky and hit the Startup Jackpot and i can retire before 35 i can try my hand as a pro mma fighter. I think it would be fun to give that a shot as a lifestyle. Atm I'm a low level amateur with almost no time to train since I'm working on my 2nd masters degree Anyways…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 01:10 AM
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That's great! Ask him if he has any recommendations. I'm currently on a David Glantz spree. He got access to the Soviet archives with his protege Jonathan House and they wrote about 25 books about WWII's eastern front that are SO well researched
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 01:06 AM
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Excuse me? Rome fighting Carthage was entirely rational - they were encroaching on their trade profits and fighting naval skirmishes for years prior to the first punic war. The 30 years war was entirely irrational I'll give you that. The First world war was rationally (at the time) initiated by a surrounded and scared for its security Central Powers. The Second world war was rationally initiated by Great Britain and France when the sovereignty of the Second Polish Republic was violated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 12:31 AM
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Religious fanatics
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/20 12:29 AM
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Most of the time it is because she can have sex with more attractive men and thinks she can score him as a ltr instead. Except she can't score him as a LTR and after a few tries she understands that. Most of the 80% guys indeed want a ltr. Over 80% of men get married at some point during their lifetimes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:48 PM
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want a two-income household, I just think it's a more optimal one in my case. Flexible, complementary roles, instead of a employee-employer type of dynamic Yep. Totally agree. And my goal is to make enough to retire by 40 or 45 and from then possibly do consulting or expert witnessing work in my field when i want to and not have a set schedule. Was shocked at how much engineering expert witnesses make it's like $5000 retainer min 10hrs billable on a case and then +450 an hour for each subsequent…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:47 PM
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Clearly not
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:43 PM
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What is rational about a bunch of poor men dying over rich men bickering? Oh yeah... Bickering... No bickering involved when millions of jewish people are thrown alive in to mass graves in 1941 in Ukraine No bickering involved when belgians are being raped and murdered in 1914. No bickering in Prague when the catholics raped and murdered thousands in 1620 No bickering in Carthage in 149BC when every man in the city was murdered by Scipio Aemillianus Just because recent wars are "poor men dying o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:43 PM
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You think that responding to, for example, a surprise carrier strike on your main naval base which sinks 6 of your 8 heavy battleships, with war is emotional rather than logical?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:39 PM
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What response has done more damage in the world Helen of Troy did a damn lot of damage Cleopatra did a damn lot of damage Ολυμπιάς (olympias of Epirus) did a damn lot of damage
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:37 PM
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I'm a STEMlord who loves military history and can't stand classical English lit like Pride and Prejudice lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:26 PM
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When the work at home becomes too much– the breadwinner partner might not be able to relate to it, and vice versa I think it's abundantly clear that the Breadwinner (esp if the woman is the breadwinner) doesn't have as much respect for the nonworking parent in comparison to two working spouses
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:25 PM
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Do you think it’s obvious that a false accusation which NEVER goes to court is worse than revenge porn? Yes, as you are falsely portrayed as a monster vs people knowing what your boobs or dick look like. Still no comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:19 PM
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?? He's an open socialist. He is proud of it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:18 PM
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Well okay that's true but i mean if the man wants to sleep casually with that person. Or he could offer his commitment on a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:08 PM
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then why is the Republican party itself curving so hard for him You're going to completely ignore it but i have to say it anyways -- because of the way people like you treat the "lukewarm republicans." Calling Middle America a basket of deplorables does nothing to trim the fat away from Trump's support. Hell, even the constant insulting, physical damage and abuse, and rioting wasn't enough to fuck up Biden's coalition of disenfranchised republicans who handed him the election in the Midwest and …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:05 PM
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Nah. You don't need 1000. I have like 200 but i have some cool pics of myself and my gf said there was one pic of me that piqued her interest (It was in a sparring match i was throwing a kick and it showed off my butt i didnt even intend to do that i just wanted to post a cool pic of me kicking someone in the head lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:50 PM
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If you really want to play that game, use LinkedIn instead The fuck lol Please no do not use LI to date. Keep professional shit professional
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:49 PM
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Reconnected with my gf before dating her on IG. If you wanna pm me i can give you some more personal tips
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:47 PM
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Meeting online has become the most popular way couples meet I literally just posted the study lol https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/k2figk/stanford_study_meeting_online_is_displacing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:46 PM
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this subreddit is overwhelmingly incels that don't actually want a debate or change their views so I wouldn't hold my breath finding users that want to discuss it from this viewpoint. Gotta sift through the garbage, there is some decent discourse here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:45 PM
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Thats fair well i mean easy solution is for a guy to improve himself that 2-3pts
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:44 PM
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whose morals are so diametrically opposed to mine Again you're missing the entirety of my point. You are stuck in a Culture War mindset that only a minority of Leftists or Right Wingers subscribe to. My dad voted for Warren. But he's friends with trump supporters because he's not ensconced in IDPOL. I voted for Jorgenson. But I'm friends with both biden and trump supporters because I dont give a flying fuck about your social beliefs, unless you're literally trying to physically harm others frien…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:42 PM
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Ah i see so single hot girl rejects her looksmatch because "she doesn't want casual sex" but then fucks someone 2-3 pts higher attractiveness and "it just happened"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:38 PM
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For high agreeableness* I am very disagreeable and it has not aided me in my career. I have to tamp down my natural inclination to argue in many settings. The best male agreeableness level is probably in the middle. I wish i were more agreeable. But ofc not super high
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:37 PM
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A higher education level of either spouse clearly decreased the divorce risk. A wife’s education has a somewhat larger influence, as couples with a wife who had attained higher education were half as likely to divorce than couples where the wife had a low education level. Good thing i have a postgrad degree and my gf has a bachelor's and will get a doctorate equivalent lol. This is def comforting! This seems to go along with the fact that marrying young and before you've established a stable car…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:35 PM
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Lmao fr im giggling here in my beautiful house with my gf in bed next to me. But no i must be paying her. Babe, time for your next loan installment
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:32 PM
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Love Noun "an intense feeling of deep affection"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:31 PM
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Yes. I understand. Except those are the minority. No, actually they are the vast majority. Die hard trumpests make up about 35 to 40% of Registered Republicans (his consistent 2015 primary support). And it is very possible to vote on pragmatic policy grounds and end up voting for the other party Sure. No arguments there. That's why there are such things as swing voters and states
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 09:30 PM
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No but you have lengthened the time it takes hence my comment "a couple years"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:16 PM
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Well like you said his height ain't great but i just think his facial features look odd and squished together.. If he wasn't funny as FUCK and a pretty decent actor hed probably be single lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:16 PM
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I'm sorry that you're not the man you could be, failing to measure up to accomplished men and instead, have to resort to hanging out on PPD and hating women you fancy but whom are out of your league. And can only get casual sex with women you fancy by paying for it. TRAGIC. 😂😂😂 This is fantastic u/pre-dental23 u/SherbertBacon this is the master of projection
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:15 PM
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doesn’t “stop the decline”. By definition it reduces the decline in population by like 15%
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:13 PM
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I'm saying that there are pragmatic voters who vote based on policy positions as opposed to culture war bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:12 PM
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Why do you care about what the societal level deems attractive though? Because... We're talking about men as a whole who are watching porn? On a societal level. Interesting. So if your gf had somehow made sure that all the men who she sold nudes to were 8s, 9s, and 10s...you'd be okay with that? No, i wouldn't be ok with that, but they wouldn't be nasty men either You think people like Peter Dinklage or Kevin Hart or Daniel Radcliffe are gross for being 5'5" or shorter? No, it isn't a blanket st…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:09 PM
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How would i ever know if they were naive and liable and susceptible to cheating? The only information i would have is Person A has never cheated Person B has cheated, realizes it's horrible, and is repentant I would choose person A easily. Cheating is pretty much the worst betrayal other people can incur on you other than literal physical harm. Even if i love the person, i just can't date someone who has been capable of such evil in the past. I wouldn't date a former domestic abuser either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:07 PM
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So what particular instance would you rather be lied to about
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:04 PM
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I never said I was pragmatic lmfao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:04 PM
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the end result is deplorable. Calling 48% of americans deplorable is the easiest way to ensure they never vote for your candidate in the future. At the moment as i said, only 17.5% are like that. Your rhetoric adds to that number...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:03 PM
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Depends on the democrat. Biden? Definitely not socialist. Bernie? Definitely socialist. The venezuelan immigrant who's scared of bernie influencing Biden's policy has a perfectly valid rationale for voting Trump that has nothing to do with his racial rhetoric
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:02 PM
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Love has a definition yet isn't a feeling? How stupid Love is by definition a feeling
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:01 PM
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Sure but it stops the decline for a couple years and/or allows it to be augmented by immigrants
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 08:00 PM
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the internet is one big echo chamber for cowardly and resentful failed men to lash out women without consequence Exactly why it's not real life. If you think reddit is real life you have a sad real life :( I'm sorry you're poor at picking men to interact with
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:59 PM
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Most, sure. Garbage collectors make like $100k in some places tho lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 07:57 PM
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"It just happened" scenario? You mean basically a single woman saying she's not intending to fuck someone but "it just happens" because he's hot? Yet thag doesn't occur to their looks match. Am i getting what you are saying?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:51 AM
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I mean it depends on the person. But one bad interaction can ruin their day so
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:50 AM
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Not sure what a systemizer is, but let me get this straight you'd prefer NOT to know about your SO's past actions that may be sordid?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:49 AM
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Biden is not any more friendly than any mainstream politician is. Absolutely, which is why Trump was supported by anti china people. He's not main stream. To many people who voted for Trump are batshit crazy conspiracy theorists Yes, about 35% of them are the die hards. With the approx 50% who voted for Trump as opposed to Biden, that means the batshit crazy are 17.5% of Americans. But that's why i asked about the NON batshit ones. I'm a libertarian who voted Jorgensen based on policy merits (i.…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:48 AM
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motivations matter do they not? Do you not believe a racist alt righter is worse than a venezuelan immigrant who hates socialism?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:44 AM
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I am not disagreeing, again, i don't support Trump
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:43 AM
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Repeatedly getting rejected by looksmatches or even slightly below is whats getting them here. I agree although most men don't get rejected for relationships by looks match, just for casual sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:42 AM
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Also, they don't do that "jury" crap here thank god. What do they do instead? And yeah the plea shit is wild they basically charge you with a billion years of jail time and give you like 2 years of house arrest to take a plea so you don't gum up the justice system
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:37 AM
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Yeah and generally both people can still make the decision to leave if both are being honest about their past and any possible stumbling blocks without being judgemental. Also the mere fact they're being so open and honest with you is respectable
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:34 AM
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Okay, don't you believe you deserve all of the possible inputs and information to make your judgement?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:32 AM
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nudes, ofs and openly capitalized sexuality makes women lose straight up human valu Human value? I disagree. Relationship value? Definitely. You can treat a woman with humanity and kindness without wanting to date them!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:31 AM
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Do you READ the comments on this sub or for Reddit in Let me get this straight. You believe redditors are representative of real life?? Bahahahahhaha
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:30 AM
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So you believe that if someone voted for trump because they were an immigrant from Venezuela and believe in more limited government, and Trump was their reluctant choice, that you can't be friends with that person? Or if they voted for Trump because they're worried about China becoming the next USSR, and Biden's friendliness towards China? I get it if they're a populist alt-righter. But my point is that that contingent of trumpists is about the same percentage that voted for him in the primaries…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:29 AM
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Smart lady. Especially with LTRs. You don't want to "find out something" about one later.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:26 AM
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Sorry? Maybe you misunderstood or i didn't say this very clearly. I don't mean the first date lol. I mean you know the person and start to like them and date them. Then you're drinking and reminiscing, or just chatting shit, or whatever. This is a long term vetting process. This is what dating before marriage is all about. Literally every person I've ever dated has been clear and honest about things because of being nonjudgemental. A full 1 out of 6 said concerning things and that was basically …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:24 AM
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Then that's just an arranged marriage rather than either healthy loving relationship or gold digging. That's it's own category.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:15 AM
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I completely agree, revenge porn can be embarrassing, degrading, violating. False rape accusations can literally put someone in a metal cage for no reason. There's no comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:13 AM
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one dude at my uni was falsely accused and he denied it, showed screenshots of the girl threatening to accuse him and while it must have been horrible and terribly stressful for him, he came out of it fine in the social opinion He was so lucky that he kept those texts, and lucky she was stupid enough to send them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:12 AM
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they do see you naked or having sex, you're now on the pornstar level. which is not a respectable place to be irl no matter how much twitter tries, Thank you lol. There was a thread earlier claiming that only fans girls were no less sexually valuable than normal girls, and/or that high value mem would pursue them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:11 AM
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punishment for a false allegation should be the removal of her vile tongue. Nothing so archaic... It should instead be the same jail time as the average rape conviction incurs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:08 AM
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Which is legal?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:05 AM
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I mean sort of. There are like ten different reasons someone could vote trump, i didn't vote for him but i have friends of all them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 11:04 AM
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Acting non-judgemental also has a strategic benefit in that you can get women to tell you stuff about them they would probably keep secret otherwise, which is crucial for vetting. This is a piece of advice that's pure gold. Never, ever, act judgemental about anything. You can lay down your boundaries (i.e. say that cheating is a very big deal to you; your favorite sex acts are x y z, etc) without being judgmental, by asking in a friendly way (in those 2 scenarios as examples) "have you cheated a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:56 AM
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Yeah good analogy. Extremism often has s tiny truth behind it that sucks people in
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:35 AM
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I dont know lol it was a Bureau of Labor Stats calculator you can google it if you want
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:34 AM
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Fuck dude not even, like idk if it's worse. My friend still does all his hobbies n shit... He just sacrificed his future for a year LOL. What happened with your friend?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 10:34 AM
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I noticed she's on FDS. Just like TRP, FDS is also a pretty bad strategy for forming healthy LTR's. Extremists gonna extreme. FDS has a bit of utility in that they will completely reject or dismiss any abusive man, but that comes at the cost your actions selecting for a man who has no backbone. TRP has a bit of utility in that they will gain the ability to have some casual sex, but that comes at the cost of your actions preselecting against stable LTR partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:18 AM
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Yes that's the one. I listened to that podcast it was fantastic. Her book got pulled from target or something and then they reinstated it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:16 AM
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Yeah overall PEs are up a lot but that's because some Growth companies are crazy right now. Funny enough i think Amazon Tesla and Apple still have room to boost earnings a lot, but FB, Alphabet etc don't. It's all about actually selling a product
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:16 AM
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LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:14 AM
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Husband’s level of education pre-gymnasium (ref.) 1.00 1.00 gymnasium 0.88 0.83 post-gymnasium 0.71 0.63 Wife’s level of education pre-gymnasium (ref.) 1.00 1.00 gymnasium 0.66 0.69 post-gymnasium 0.52 Very interesting, in the swedish study, if the wife has a postgraduate degree the marriage is 52% as likely to fail than if she had a HS diploma and if the man has a postgraduate degree the marriage is 71% as likely to fail as HS diploma
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:11 AM
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Sure they will. You can never outlive the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:05 AM
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You're a land whale apologist He's a fatty fucker?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:03 AM
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Exactly, ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:03 AM
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Black Lives do matter. The organization Black Lives Matter is an openly marxist insidious cancer. It's really sad because when George Floyd died the country was united in horror. They wasted that chance for change by being violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 06:00 AM
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I hate people who say it is the flu or is not the flu! The seasonal flu IFR is about 0.025%. The Spanish Flu IFR was about 0.8%. The Avian flu IFR was about 3%. Coronavirus IFR is estimated between 0.1% and 0.5%. "The flu" means many things!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 05:56 AM
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There's a middle ground between "covid is fake news and/or nothing to worry about" and "covid is a public health crisis the likes of which the world has never seen, and no cost is too great to save even one life Exactly. Covid is dangerous and deadly. It also has an R(0) of 5.5, and can not be contained, only mitigated. Imo: we should save lockdown political capital for when it is needed - if hospitals begin to be overwhelmed and people are turned away, for example, then a full lockdown is neces…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 05:55 AM
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Stocks are trading at a higher P/E ratio than they have ever Growth are. Value is - YTD still. VTV for example is about -4%. I went in on value ETFs in august. VTWV, VONV, etc. Doing pretty good, +17% since
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 05:53 AM
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What? If someone believes they're motivated by love, they are. Love is not objective. It's subjective
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 05:50 AM
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Agreed, you gotta be all in
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 05:47 AM
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Yeah i get you. Talk to their friends and always act non judgemental about anything. If there's something fishy? It'll come out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 05:45 AM
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Sure, so? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 05:44 AM
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kind of money alone No one is saying the woman wants that man solely for his $80k/year job. I'm saying that's certainly above average (in fact, 71st percentile) and with other good qualities he will find success
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 05:12 AM
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How did you find out they lied? Or did they tell you when drunk or something lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 05:11 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 05:10 AM
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With covid and WFH, if you're a coder, best move to a low COL area
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 04:42 AM
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Fuuuck What led her to do it in the first place? Just the allure of a quick buck?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 04:21 AM
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Hey, I'm not talking about individuals. My gf is also around 24bmi and shes hot af and 24% BF (for a woman that's great). I'm talking generally/on a societal level. 23.5 isn't inherently less attractive or more attractive than 25.5 on an individual level, but on a societal level it is. Kind of like N count. A woman with dozens of N is more likely to cheat on a societal level. But an individual woman with N-50 could be a totally honest person who'd rather cut their hand off than cheat. You're pur…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 04:19 AM
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The fact is that humans have no intrinsic value False. Not in the USA. "all men are created equal, that they are endowed, by their Creator, with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness." Exhibitionism is equitable with porn creation. It shouldn't be illegal, but prior to a woman or a man (you keep ignoring the fact that men porn stars face the same things women ones do) making the decision to work as a pornstar or onlyfans, they simply must ta…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 04:12 AM
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That's definitely a very healthy mindset to have, and also true. Most PEOPLE don't have their shit together, in one way or another. Having all of your shit together really makes you stand out even if you're genetically average or slightly above average.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 04:07 AM
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Bruh we're living in covid land. In my small college southern town 80k/yr made you a god. Anyways thats what 3x median wage per person? You're telling me being in the 71th percentile as per BLS is not getting you dates? Also 80k is pretty much entry level CS. If you work in silicon valley you'll be in the low to mid 6 figures depending on experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 04:06 AM
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Yep in general me growing up in a super confrontational family has helped me in the dating market
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 04:02 AM
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women. Please see one of the more recent posts on here from one of your fellow males about how he views women that employ your suggested dating strategy That "fellow male" is not representative of the general type of man in the dating pool. Most relationships nowadays unless you are a devout Christian or Muslim start either with casual sex before commitment, or casual sex during/very shortly after commitment. A woman making a man wait months is going to self-select for simps who wouldn't be fuck…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 03:19 AM
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YET simultaneously drool and lust over top tier women but moan when they have high standards which consist of more that pure lust? Well because they're petulant and not a top tier man, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 03:17 AM
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There are a limited amount of rich handsome dudes with high educational achievement/intellect Forsure. I could work on the "handsome" part a bit more, but the other factors totally contribute
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 03:15 AM
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lost all of her physical attributes or stops having sex with you These are two different things. I'd stay with my gf if she lost all of her physical attributes unless she did it via laziness or complacency (i.e. got fat because of laziness), as that's a deeper problem. I would not stay with my GF if she stopped having sex with me; sex is a crucial part of love, both male and female perspectives. My mother divorced my father because he wouldn't have sex with her.... And you know what? I absolutel…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 03:12 AM
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Pain in the ass siblings are a great way to get comfortable with confrontation LMAO yep and also pain in the ass fathers. I'm a damn pro at aggressive confrontation LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 03:09 AM
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Respect for that💯
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 03:05 AM
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Well... It simply depends on your priorities. If something in your life is more important to you than finding a hookup or wife/husband, then don't sacrifice it even if it's unattractive. If you put more importance on the dating or hookup life, change it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 03:00 AM
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Yeah wtf lol 80k/yr in cs > 30k a year in sexy job
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:58 AM
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It's like a shrapnel ego boost Wym by this? But ya generally i agree with your point. Some guys like the validation
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:53 AM
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thought we were all talking about having casual sex. Most average men have had casual sex occasionally or often as well. It's the bottom 30% who are fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:51 AM
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It's about relative attractiveness lol not absolute attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:50 AM
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I believe it's ridiculous to tell women that their primary value lies in their youth and beauty and then hold it against them for exhibiting or benefitting from it. Their primary value comes from their intrinsic value as a human being, not their youth and beauty, at least not more than men are valued for youth and beauty. I hold against someone, man or woman, their indecent actions. If a woman i dated was arrested for indecent exposure for peeing in the street, i would hold that against her. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:49 AM
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Nasty may be an overly harsh word to use, but BMI >25 men are overwhelmingly more likely to be unattractive (and yes same for underweight BMI). Same with women. Unless the girl is an athlete/lifter, >25bmi is a no go. My BMI is 24.4 and i could stand to lose 10lbs of fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 02:40 AM
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Leaked nudes aren't the issue here, for the 85th time. It's actively performing for thirsty nasty men on Only Fans and Porn Hub
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:54 AM
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I'll say what i just did on another similar comment: Mainly because these women to make a lot of money on Onlyfans have to be hot as fuck, and a lot of men chads included would look past onlyfans because of how hot they are. It's not a +... But It's not a deal breaker either
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:52 AM
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This is my feeling as well. Ex BF revenge porn? I feel bad for her. Onlyfans or actual porno? Ha, next
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:51 AM
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Mainly because these women to make a lot of money on Onlyfans have to be hot as fuck, and a lot of men chads included would look past onlyfans because of how hot they are. It's not a +... But It's not a deal breaker either
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:50 AM
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Ouch. What ended up happening with Bang Bus girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:49 AM
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Not really tbh. This is more of a hypothetical problem for future women if onlyfans increases in popularity
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:47 AM
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dated standard of purity You believe it's a dated standard of purity to assume that a man or a woman doesn't want to date another man or woman who has sold their body? That's quite ridiculous, and has nothing to do with women's sexuality. My gf would not be dating me if i sold my nudes on onlyfans.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:46 AM
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Sure, but if someone you know does see it your reputation is ruined
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:43 AM
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They're still circulating out there to some extent Ehhhh idk. I've never shared an ex's nudes and i dont think most ppl do
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:42 AM
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I tell you you can’t leave the house or I’ll hit you, that’s manipulation and a threat Yes, but violent men aren't saying "don't leave the house or I'll hit you." They're just hitting. You're projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:38 AM
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Random man is nasty by default because 72% of men are obese or overweight, and someone buying porn is definitely more likely to be an introverted weirdo lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 01:38 AM
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Going from 1.6 to 1.85 births is irrelevant Completely disagree
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 12:07 AM
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For poor families there actually may be more an incentive. But when poor people who already face barriers to a better economic situation have kids who also face those same barriers, how is that beneficial to the economy? Well, in a capitalist free market some of those children will grow up to be the next elon musk or the next Jeff bezos, and benefit the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 12:07 AM
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And young women, in particular, are prone to social contagion. I forget the author but there was one feminist woman who wrote a book about this actually, referencing a study she did about young girls coming out as gender dysphoric... In groups. To be liked/accepted. It's quite sad. They're ruining their lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 12:03 AM
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The risk in sending private nudes via watsapp is the guy being a dick and sharing them. In that case - just don't have your face in nudes/ texting sessions. Right, most people aren't saying that sending a previous BF nudes and then having him Revenge-Porn her is the problem. They're saying selling nudes for the express purpose of nasty random men jerking off to them is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/20 12:00 AM
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Also even girls without an Onlyfans have probably sents nudes to a couple dozen guys That's true. But there is a big step from sending nudes to 10 sexual partners and selling nudes online
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 11:59 PM
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Also the more popular it becomes the harder it will be to find a girl who didn't have an Onlyfans so guys will have no choice other than to date a girl with nudes online or stay single. Looottts of guys would prefer to stay single, myself included
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 11:57 PM
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That's right. It's horrible. It damages the kid who will never see "his dad" again. It's like the kid losing 5 parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 11:51 PM
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Of course it is the adults' fault. Who else would it be?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 11:50 PM
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I disagree. It's not manipulation. It's simply abuse. In fact it's quite the opposite of passive manipulation. It's actively "stating" your problem with the person via violence, which is obviously unacceptable, but it is not manipulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 11:49 PM
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They date someone for a month then SURPRISE! you’re expected to parent a kid. Oh, but don’t get attached because she can walk away whenever. This is basically evil. If you expect someone to bond with your kid like their own, they should be able to get shared custody or something when they do. Imagine being that man. I love kids and will have my own. But imagine having a kid you love just taken from you with no recourse because you're not the biological parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:23 PM
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This does not include widows Thanks for this. No one says this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:19 PM
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Would it be moral say for example for men to sign something before intercourse stating they don't want parental responsibility or something ? I mean that would make it clear, but this is like signing a consent form. It'll never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:18 PM
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The difference between condom sex and not is very noticeable For sure. And cum in a woman is noticeable for sure. It drips out. Stealthing without them finding out is a myth
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:12 PM
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/thread Completely agree
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:10 PM
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The former. The latter if the child was intentional or in a cohabitation or marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:09 PM
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Oh sure i agree, I'm saying its not unfair to think someone is creepy. It's just rude to call them creepy though. Have some decorum.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:08 PM
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Okay well only FDS overuses it as far as I'm aware
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:07 PM
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Not their fault, but also should abort
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:05 PM
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If the father wants to keep the kid but then dips, yes, i hold the man responsible
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 10:03 PM
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A lot. Just like a lot subsidize single mothers. Both are a net negative to society by reducing production potential. We are past equilibrium on the Laffert Curve
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:56 PM
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We do. And we shouldn't. And resenting them for it is a valid response.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:55 PM
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Pick me and simps exist, but FDS overuses the term and over describes women as pickmes just for having healthy relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:50 PM
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Very fair man. I think kids really do need a 2 parent home, and the stats back that up (absent dads OR moms..) . However, a toxic one of those two parents is fsr worse than an absent one. So if you don't want to risk it that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:48 PM
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6'3, decent weight, very, very good earning potential, maybe top .01%, good looking There are many non tall non ripped non 200k/yr men with girlfriends they're happy with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:41 PM
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Well, i disagree because the woman honestly and truly feels like it's creepy. I don't know what you expect the woman to do
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:35 PM
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However, they were more of the "stable" type of attractive guys - the type of preppy, good guys you could bring home to meet the parents. These guys were all attractive enough to get casual sex if they just worked on their "branding." Instead, they were going the traditional dating route instead - by taking me out to expensive dinners and events. Most of this type of guy are southern preppy guys. I went to college as well as got my first masters in the South. Most guys there have it drummed in t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 09:08 PM
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Lol have the first three but live in a city where clout is everything and it's rough lol. I'm dating someone so It's all good but man I'd probably be on the struggle bus 🚌 if i ever broke up
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:59 PM
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Bahahah
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:56 PM
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No. Act interested and accept interest from men. It's that simple. You ignore men you like? You play games? You get discarded. It's that simple. If you like a man, other girls do too. Gotta strike while the iron is hot, or get passed over.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:53 PM
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???? What exactly is crazy about not ignoring a potential sexual partner 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:39 PM
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I disagree. You might be below average, but deluding yourself in to thinking you're average lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:38 PM
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Exactly, there's already a pre selection of SOME girls there who are dtf, you might have to sift thru a few first but it's better than randos
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:26 PM
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Oh lol yeah well the analogy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:26 PM
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Man likes woman so he ignore her. How does she know he is ignoring because he likes her vs. she doesn't exist. If man is ignoring a woman he doesn't like her. Or he likes her but he's toxic and shouldn't be given the time of day. In general though if you have chemistry and the man is ignoring you, he wants to fuck and doesn't care about anything else. Personally even with ONSs and hookups, i would reply out of courtesy. I'd tell them "sorry, i only wanted to hook up but you're a nice person i ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:24 PM
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How is that a criticism of men? That's a criticism of OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:08 PM
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Little fish are usually more aggressive than the big fish In what way? I disagree, in HS the popular guys always were more aggressive, myself included. I was a popular but unattractive guy, what a combo lol. But anyways most of my baseball teammates were aggressive and assertive
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:08 PM
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It certainly isn't unfair either, it's just life un fortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:06 PM
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Lol the only thing I hate more than approaching random women is public speaking. I get serious stage fright If you want to run your own practice you MUST learn leadership skills including public speaking
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 07:05 PM
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Yeah really it has to be clubs or bars because girls who are there are almost surely DTF, MAYBE some have BFs but most do not and most are at least in the singles market
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:58 PM
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Yeah i honestly don't know what to do. He knows the risk he says, like he acknowledges that she's more likely to chest again than the other girl he dated between her cheating and getting back together with her. He says that he loves her and is willing to take the risk to be with her
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:54 PM
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You literally mentioned murder rate? The murder rate is the lowest in human history. Wanna change the subject again?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:35 AM
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Bro i literally can't even. I feel so bad for this man. His roommate as well as his cousin and I are his 3 best friends and he's ignoring all of our pleas. His cousin who's also my friend can't even speak to her. And she's such a fucking manipulator, she came over to their house (cousin lives w friend and their roommate 3ppl in a 4br) and my friend tried to get the girl to talk to his cousin and he just went to his room and locked the door. Thats like the mature thing to do lol I probably would …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:33 AM
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Yeah i think terrible parents can cause good children sometimes due to them naturally rebelling but rarely do good parents cause bad children. I never did have this burning "I want kids one day" thing many men seem to get. Marriage was a natural progression living with my GF as long as we did. Having kids was a natural progression of getting married. Very interesting. I have wanted kids for about 2 or 3 years now. I generally want to mold a human being with my dna and continue my legacy. We're o…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 06:25 AM
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The murder rate is at the lowest in the history of the human race. Try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:08 AM
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Well, we didn't sit down and say "Oh boy! Are we trying tonight?!? Let's go make some babies! WOO HOO!" Okay i gotcha well i mean I'm gonna keep using BC until intentionally trying to have them. But yeah i agree if you go off it's intentional. And i see. I'm glad your kids are good. ingrates probably come from bad parenting though yeah? So did you not intend to have kids like your whole life i mean? You said you weren't a natural parent, what do you mean by that. Also, what is abhorrent about so…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 05:06 AM
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Oh i agree, its a very low chance of happening but the consequences are so damn high you just gotta be sure. It's like having critical care insurance. You hope you don't need it but you still buy it. And yeah i mean i agree i know my worth and that my girl would be making a huge mistake both in terms of her ability to find a future partner that is of similar or better quality sexual and relationship, as well as the ability to raise quality children, it would still be devastating if she cheated. …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 04:58 AM
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never will extend that personal responsibility to themselves I don't agree. Women are dumb for picking wrong. Men are dumb for picking wrong. vet your SO thoroughly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:50 AM
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Right. Poor young men are having negative dating experiences and joining the radical ideology of TRP. Poor young women are having negative dating experiences and joining the radical ideology of FDS. Most healthy young men and women are having good experiences and love their spouse or SO, or are having fun with the casual sex game, and have never even heard of TRP or FDS. I'm only here because one of my best friends became radicalized in to TRP and i learned about it in order to debate him with h…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:49 AM
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Yeah i might play it off, like get 23 and me or something and that'll tell me. I trust her, i just don't trust myself to not be overly insecure and dumb about it. I'd rather just know. Yeah that's a preselection bias (people questioning it have reason to), overall is about 2%. But still higher than the ideal which is ZERO! Paternity fraud should be a felony just like wire fraud. And thats fair! If you care less about N than other purple pillers then yeah, there will probably be plenty of high N …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:43 AM
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Right, my question wasnt if you want more kids. It was about the kids you have! Do you regret having kids? Were they intentional pregnancies with your wife and you always wanted kids? Just curious I'll get the snip after i have 2 or 3 myself
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:39 AM
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Lmao yep, the alternative is a surrogate if i don't succeed in this relationship, but i want kids one way or another
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:37 AM
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Its the truth. Violence is worse than manipulation, but the number of violent men is few.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:36 AM
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Gotcha , i misunderstood then
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:36 AM
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No no i agree lol it seems fishy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:35 AM
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Fuuuuuck
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:34 AM
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True, best get quality ones like Lasik
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:30 AM
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Lol?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:30 AM
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LMAO i want kids my friend. I want my lineage to continue. But not for at least 6-8 years 😊
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:30 AM
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I gotcha well in terms of relative QOL yeah i agree but in terms of assets, the older the worse. Besides, ironclad prenups exist. Get a good lawyer.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:29 AM
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I agree, but polgyamous people don't disgust me, i just prefer not to engage in a polygamous relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:27 AM
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Great point. Pain is pain. Both genders can get hurt. Both genders can also have happy fulfilling relationships. Kinda luck of the draw tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:26 AM
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he is not initiating, showing interest, etc..... You are not on his mind. Absolutely true. I initiate with my gf every time i have the opportunity logistics wise.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:21 AM
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More women are manipulators than men are violent
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:19 AM
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Are you happy you have kids, even though they came with the obvious baggage of your exwife? Do you love and care for your kids?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:17 AM
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About 15 years ago I nearly got shot by my ex-fiancé because I found out she was cheating and confronted her about it. Jesus
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:56 AM
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seems to me mgtow is just Libertarianism leaking into one's dating life I take offense to that. Libertarianism is not checking out of society and giving up. It's a focus on individual liberty and antiauthoritarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:52 AM
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I’m talking about the real mgtow not the bitter incels or teenagers I think people need to consider this distinction more. True MGTOW men are sad, and hurt, and making a conscious choice to withdraw from dating due to bad experiences. The latter are just dumbasses who hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:49 AM
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Or just get hair plugs like matthew cox did lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:45 AM
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I mean, some people genuinely will not be complete without a monogamous commitment. Those people should do it. The people who do it only because "everyone's doing it" or they feel left out otherwise are in dire need of reassessing their priorities. This comment really made me think. Thanks for it. I think there might be a third category which i find myself in: genuinely being OK single, yet finding a LTR that adds value and happiness to my life, and thus being OK with both monogamy and the bache…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:41 AM
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Prettttty sure that's sarcasm lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:40 AM
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NEVER SEEK FEMALE COMPANION SHIPE FOR HAPPINESS. Why not? If it makes me happy, what's wrong with that? I do agree with a good bit of your points though, especially the ones about not financially supporting someone who can't support themselves as well as long term vetting of relationships prior to cohabitation\marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:37 AM
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LMAO idk but that's sucky, did he not find trp until #5? If i have a marriage that doesnt work out i sure as shit aint making the same mistake twice. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:31 AM
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Okay?? Except there will be no buxx for her, there never have been and there never will be. If i had kids I'd spend buxx on them... But I have made it abundantly clear that i will not be spending money on my gf. We split costs on everything. I have also made it clear that i will require a prenup denoting proportional distribution of wealth either or both of us might acquire (if she wins the lottery she gets 100% of it). If you're saying she's gonna be cool with that for 10 yrs and then suddenly …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:28 AM
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Lol i can't really fault you for wanting to engage in some strong debauchery, at least you have the self control to wait until you're rich to get addicted to blow instead of doing it when you're broke at 21 LOL. Tbf tho dating a girl at this point at least youll know shes not after you for that sweet sweet OFMS money or whatever the fuck the acronym is Yeah no i was joking lol i would never date a single mom and i love kids. I feel like the biggest asshole ever doing it but if i do have kids I'm…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:22 AM
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Sure. I'd say the same thing to a factory farm worker or a military contractor. Is it worth it if you hate yourself? And lol. 5yrs? Try 200. The market rate of return since 1800 has been about 7.5% "Time in the market beats timing the market"
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:10 AM
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Why 10 years? Is that not an arbitrary time frame? Also my LTR and i have discussed it, if everything goes well we will stay together yet keep finances separate, she makes 3x median wage.. Not everything is about buxx my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:09 AM
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Hahaha Nah but this kind of proves u/wtknight 's point though, right? Plenty of the women here who profess to be thrilled with their husband are probably married to a decent dude, making 50-80k a year, 25-27 ish BMI, around 5'10, and relatively average to above average facial features. True "Alpha Bucks" is like 200k+, athletic build, 6'0+, etc plus all the provider traits like emotionally supportive. I'm really bad at that part of this shit lol. I'm way too disagreeable irl
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:07 AM
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The divorce rate is already 40-50%, Note that first marriage divorce rate is closer to 30-35%. The overall divorce rate is skewed by 2nd, 3rd, 10th marriages etc
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:04 AM
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he's alpha he doesn't need to offer resources and commitment to have a girlfriend Right, yet some do anyways because they prefer it, not because they have to
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:01 AM
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but ONLY after you are over 45. This way, if you do get divorce raped by your future "wife", you can lessen the impact) Um wait hol up If you get married older you're probably bringing more assets to the table and thus will be divorce raped harder if you're not foresighted enough to have a prenup
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 02:00 AM
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Completely agreed. If two partners arent regularly having enthusiastic sex... What's the point of a sexual relationship ??
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:57 AM
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YES. GREAT comment. The main problem men find is sunk cost though. If a man marries a woman and then the woman gets all petulant and pissy and withdraws sex, then he has to forfeit half his shit to leave if he was not foresighted enough to sign a prenup
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:56 AM
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A chick that just wants to bang you cuz you’re hot is a shallow starfish and not fun in bed in my experience... Seconded. All my casual sex experience was boring and unfulfilling after the first half dozen times
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:53 AM
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You can avoid becoming a betabux by only getting into relationships with women who have consistently proven by their actions that they are sexually attracted to you and can add value to your life. Fantastic summary of the entire male dating conundrum
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:52 AM
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Aim to be alpha bucks, that’s the best advice I can give you. Yep if you want kids, this is pretty much the best outcome
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:51 AM
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Most betas would happily take casual sex from multiple good looking women over an LTR (if they were honest I am in a LTR with a good looking woman where i provide no buxx (e: just read the rest of your post- technically i have no job lol I'm in grad school) and would prefer to stay in the LTR than have meaningless casual sex with multiple other good looking women. Some people just have different goals than you, bro. I value consistency and stability myself. I'm extremely neurotic and having casu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:47 AM
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He become more desirable to other women when we started dating This is a thing. There was actually a study done on it. It's called "mating preselection." Girls see that you value him so they think, hmm, if she values this guy then he must be valuable
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:43 AM
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Warm no income tax state, eh? Well, if I'm ever in Nevada Texas or Florida I'll hit you up. Lolol. I gotcha. That makes sense. I keep forgetting that your goal isn't necessarily just to get the highest quality LTR that you can, you also want to be Dr. Chad lol. Which fair enough. Different goals i guess. I'm glad i got that out of my system in undergrad. But yeah you'll be looking at some slim pickins at age like 35 looking to settle down. Might have to go for a single mom or divorcee... Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:42 AM
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Honestly i don't know because i don't know which girls rejected me because of that and which ones rejected me because of other reasons lol. I still had a rejection rate online of like 90% or more and in person of at least 50%. But i mean they probably knew i was at least doing OK via my education (undergrad and masters in engineering, currently doing a 2nd masters) - just not that i am in the 78th percentile (in the US, all ages) of net worth at the age of 23. Average 23yo net worth? -23k. Could…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 01:37 AM
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The main purchasers of casual sex are careerist men who don't have time for normal LTRs, and men in a relationship who are cheating (for higher echelon sex workers), and ghetto dope boys, gangsters, blue collar workers who want some quick sex, etc (for lower echelon sex workers). It's exceedingly rare that someone so socially stunted to not be able to talk to women at all romantically is confident enough to hire a woman to have sex with them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 12:11 AM
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Yeah its online but was partially in person before the second wave hit so i was in person. Now online. Not working just doing the MBA. Living off my investment portfolio lol. Tuition is rough but at least i wont have loans So you have 2 more years of undergrad then it's what, 4yrs of dental school and 2 years of residency? Do I have that right? So you'd move once in two yrs and once in 4 years, and then possibly again after residency and possibly not? And oh I'm not really suggesting a LDR for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 12:08 AM
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You actually think incels purchase sex? Cmon lol. Most of them are NEETs living with their parents who wouldn't have the time or money or even inclination to buy a sex worker
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 12:03 AM
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Or simply investing well
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:34 PM
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I may even get a shitty apartment and a shitty car I did this. It worked.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:33 PM
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As bad as lawyers' reputation is, prostitutes' are worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:32 PM
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Personally, I'd never even date a former sex worker let alone marry one. Same. Dunno anyone who would really
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:31 PM
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My stance is that people should have the freedom to do what they want with themselves period Same. Lots of authoritarian statists in this group
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:31 PM
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then those men just need to be separated from society They are. By default.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:29 PM
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In all honesty, they'd probably end up better off than the average person struggling to survive Financially 100% true. But is being rich worth it if you hate yourself? P.s. index grows about 7-8% a year. I wish it was 15 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:28 PM
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Lmaoooo yeah we had just followed eachother on IG and FB. I like to just talk to people randomly any ways haha so it just so happened i began to like her after we talked for a while. Yeah, the options for you are basically either, not do LTRs until you're established (but then you face the common issue that Men face at the age you will be that you feel uncomfortable with the woman's sexual experience by that age, and also many of the "good women" will be married up by then), or find a girl who y…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:23 PM
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We had known each other in elementary school and i was doing my first masters degree, she was finishing her 2nd bachelors (to be an RN) and we happened to be near eachother. She went to a themed bar with her friend and i messaged her asking about the drinks, and just kept the convo going. I didnt really intend to start liking her lol i was just making conversation with a hot chick. Then the convo turned sexual and i was intending to hook up because she obviously was dtf. Then we just kept talkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 10:53 PM
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Yeah i wouldn't date a classmate or a coworker. But a friend of a friend is where its at. I met my gf because i knew here from a long time ago and DMed her about some picture she posted with a witty comment and then just talked from there. Moral of the story - just have lots of friends both close and not close, and that'll be more effective finding a good LTR than OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 09:53 PM
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ome people racking up triple digits n-counts, does this mean that a man choosing to get in to a serious relationship is automatically a 'betabuxx'? I think you answered your question right there. If you're dating a girl with 100+ N, then yes. If you're dating a girl with a reasonable N, no. My general rule is my N has to be higher than hers (for a LTR) or i feel uncomfortable, I'd recommend that as a general guideline. Obviously that may not apply to some of yall who have low Ns (like <5), if th…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 09:29 PM
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teeth were getting green around the gum Yeesh. Yeah my gf has made me notice ppls teeth i never noticed them before but now i do. We started dating and then I'd point out an attractive guy or girl and she'd be like "nah her teeth are crooked" and I'd be like oh shit they are i didn't even notice that lmao. Also I'm kinda shook at how many people had to have braces? Neither myself nor my sibling had to have braces but my gf and literally almost everyone i ask did
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 09:25 PM
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I mean you aint really gonna get 100 cold approaches in a day haha. Literally just have a ton of friends and wait for something to happen if you're attractive and confident man. You said yourself you wanted some thing real. Something meaningful, loving, long term. OLD is great for fucking. Pretty bad for LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 09:22 PM
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Have you ever considered that maybe you're misinterpreting what you think girls intentions are due to your bad social skills? If you go to a bar or club and a girl is there alone (and isn't dating anyone), she's almost certain to be looking for a hookup or at very least willing to give you her number. Go with a friend or two so you don't seem like you are alone, and go up to single girls on the dance floor. Be prepared to be rejected, at least 80% of the time. But since you've literally never ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 09:07 PM
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But that’s not a side chick - no one has an established relationship, so it’s just two single people enjoying themselves True. I think this is a definitional difference by generation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:10 PM
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For sure. For me (a man) as well. Communication is the number 1 builder/saver of relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:09 PM
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don't run my FWB's life or own his body. So long as we can still have sex once or twice a week and hang out as friends, he can do whatever he wants with other women. Safe sex, obviously What a mature opinion. Respect. I would totally understand if you were jealous and preferred not to be as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:09 PM
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Cheaters disgust me, it's pretty simple. I'd never date one and I don't want to enable this kind of behavior Right i completely agree, However you don't see a difference between being open about seeing other people vs lying and conniving? To me, the major violation is the breach of trust and the lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:07 PM
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Well that's good because that's fixable! How many girls have you approached at bars/clubs or generally in real life ?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:02 PM
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Your objections included extremely rare cases of rape, just like the aforementioned abortion rights activists. Your argument is inconsistent and weak. Your position is strong. Improve your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:01 PM
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Done
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:51 PM
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Lmao okay. So you're against it, but for it being legal then? Then we have a closer opinion on the matter than you think. It's still very low of you to use the raped and abused porn performers as a crutch just like abortion-rights people use raped or incest cases to argue a position they would hold regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:48 PM
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I mean i get your point, but it's still painful to me. I guess it depends on the situation. Doesnt matter to me tho im happily dating
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:47 PM
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I mean sure, men who actually vocalize this stuff are probably radicals. Most men are still monogamous. But it doesn't mean they (the polygamist) are trying to gain power. Also you're misusing the word "rights." Rights are fundamental privileges endowed to people by their status as humans, including the right to practice whatever religion you want, the right to not be arrested for opinions, etc. There is no such thing as the "right" to a harem just like there is no such thing as a "right" to hea…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:45 PM
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You can’t wave a magic wand and make the bad parts of the porn industry go away I know. That's why it's a thought experiment. Which you refuse to participate in, because you're fully aware that your problem with the porn industry has absolutely nothing to do with the few girls who are raped or exploited. I'm fine with you having that opinion, but it's VERY dishonest to use them as a crutch or prop in your unrelated argument. Not every man drinks alcohol on a daily basis but most men consume porn…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:38 PM
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Lol that's fair but that's my point. Online rejection is meh. In person rejection hurts. Idgaf if troll face rejects me online or if 100 women do, all i need is one to be dtf that I'm attracted to and that's fairly easy to pull with the sheer number of online ppl. In person if i approach someone and get rejected it hurts. It really does. It's an ego blow.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:33 PM
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Dang. Are you like genetically cursed? Or just super introverted
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:31 PM
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relationships will be seen as a trap for men and the expectation of relationships will crumble. Sigh. You're well aware that relationships as a concept won't crumble if a small subset of men decide they want to have polygyny. They WILL use it to gain power/control/rights Sounds like a slippery slope fallacy to me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:29 PM
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Nah i disagree honestly. I can get why with no other information about me you think that would be a possibility but I am very outgoing in either case. I am disagreeable and extroverted big5 traits. I don't modify my behavior around hot girls, and i have decent success when single. It's just frustrating that it seems to snowball when I'm not single lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:08 AM
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That meme is gold
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 11:00 AM
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Nope not classically handsome. I am tall though, nothing i can do to control that (obviously) I don't have more success than my friends here. One of my best friends is a 5 foot 3 inch asian dude and he PULLS
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 10:56 AM
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Like either get the govt out of marriage completely.... Or more beneficial regulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 10:44 AM
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I personally believe that on an individual level, porn can be extremely destructive if used improperly and compulsively, just like drugs or sugar or sex or gambling. Do you believe in outlawing alcohol? More people are harmed by alcohol than porn by a large margin. To me excessive viewership of porn is morally wrong, but I'm saying that if your view of ethics is strictly kantian, you wouldn't have any objections to above-board porn (i.e. completely consensual). lot of women are abused and raped …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 10:41 AM
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Well my point stands! Most reddit manosphere men are too introverted to do that even with a little old lady. I am lucky that i have high extroversion on the big5 scale, so it seems like nbd for me to go do that, or to approach a hot woman, or to talk in front of a classroom or boardroom. It's just no matter. But to someone introverted (like my sister), it's an ordeal to talk with someone you're not already really close to. I think you're confusing sexual things with personality things
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:20 AM
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I mean that depends on your view of morality. Are you religious?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:18 AM
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Well... I had started lifting at age 16 during high school baseball, and in college at 18 i was 272 lbs at 6 foot 3. I kept lifting but also added playing pickup basketball to the exercise regimen. I did intermittent fasting and ate one big 1500 cal dinner and that was it, maybe a snack after. It took me about a year to get down to 190lbs, I didn't check my BF%. I went back up to 225 accidentally because I stopped playing basketball, but then junior year i joined the mma gym i started at, and lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:18 AM
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Linda Lovelace wasn’t paid a dime for her work in Deep Throat and was forced into porn by her husband. That is both worker exploitation and coercion. That is obviously not what someone is talking about when they make the argument that porn is a voluntary undertaking. Lets use Riley Reid or i forgot what her name is but the one who did the hijab video with the glasses. They both regret going in to porn - but both made bank, and both made the conscious decision to engage in sex work as autonomous …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:14 AM
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thought about how many men wouldn’t have even considered talking to someone like her because she has “no SMV Ehhhhh. Most reddit manosphere men wouldn't talk to someone like her because they're shy and introverted, not because she wasn't pretty
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:10 AM
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If guys with big ones still need to use their hands or something then his penis size isn’t that important Meh. I disagree with that contention. It's not EVERYTHING, but it is important even if most women need outside stimulation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:09 AM
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For you lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 08:08 AM
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I was probably about that in 2015. You can change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:19 AM
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Why isn't starfish sex satisfying You, literally asking the question i answered Don't get pissy if you get an answer 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 07:19 AM
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Nope. There are emotional reasons, true, but you are entirely ignoring the physical reasons starfish sex sucks
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 06:28 AM
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The rate of success is def lower but... If i have 1% success OLD and 30% IRL, i have to approach 3 IRL and 100 OLD, honestly rather get rejected 99 times online than 2 IRL lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 06:27 AM
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it's so easy to just call her overly insecure and controlling to ask about who you are fucking. ?? No, in a relationship there's a solid expectation that neither person is fucking anyone else unless it was discussed and allowable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 06:25 AM
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You literally asked why starfish sex isn't satisfying. It's not and for VERY obvious reasons. I'd rather jerk off.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 06:23 AM
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I'm a good looking man? Kinda. I wouldn't say I'm crazy good looking. Like i said to the other reply, I'm tall and well-endowed, but I'm relatively not fit, and have no status or clout living in a city that masturbates to clout
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:45 AM
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Lollll this is wild, see ya around lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:43 AM
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Again no one is even close to implying rights, I'm very confused as to how you can go from "Men can fuck one person while loving another" To "Men deserve to fuck a harem of women"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:42 AM
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Huh??? You seriously need to ask this question? If one person is bored or not in to it not only are they not getting any pleasure but nor is their partner. A girl has to move her hips in to the guy, grind them around, keep pace and time with the guy... You don't know this? Are you a virgin or just yourself a starfisher? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:41 AM
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Bahaha yeah it was ppl saying omg OLD is so bad because i can't get laid and me saying OLD is better because you can't feel the rejections hurt you like IRL
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:26 AM
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Yeah i agree with that sentiment for sure, just be the best at something. Whatever it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:25 AM
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I mean i disagree lol i had a friend who was white and tall and skinny as fuck and creepy as a mfer.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:25 AM
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Literally no one is claiming that men deserve to cheat on women. Not OP, not Jim, no one. You have seemed to invent that strawman to rail against.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:25 AM
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, is one worse then the other to handle if it was someone you knew , I mean yeah it's worse if you knew them of course. I don't think men cheating is less bad, but i don't think your analogy is good
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:23 AM
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. There’s is only one reason people cheat. Because they can. I mean that's the most generalized, broad statement I've ever heard... Sure, they only cheat if they can. So what? Most people who can cheat would never even dream of cheating, myself included.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:23 AM
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The "good men" you mention just don't act on it That's.... Thats the entire point Jim
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:20 AM
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We can see someone as attractive and still genuinely want to not have sex with them because we aren't ready, or because it would hurt our SO, or because we're in a dirty back alley, or any reason. Men are the same. Yeah I'll agree with this for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:19 AM
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but never act on it - because I don’t want to hurt my partner. You don’t cheat on someone you love. I dont think he's condoning cheating, rather explaining the difference between sexual cheating and emotional cheating by gender
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:18 AM
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all deserve free access to multiple women. That's bullshit. There is NOTHING so special about your sexuality that you deserve to juggle women. Who said anything about deserving? Certainly he didn't... Seems like projection on your part
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:17 AM
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Monogamous people must all learn to do this, unless they are to be liars. No one likes liars, well except for other sadists/abusers. I agree with this completely; cheaters are the scum of the earth. I'm for making cheating a class II Felony in marriage since marriage is a contract with the State along with your partner
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:15 AM
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it were all about "le sexual reasons" unenthusiastic starfish would be more than sufficient. Um, what? Lol. Sexual satisfaction =/= starfish sex
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:08 AM
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No no i agree. I'm back to lifting now that my classes went online and I'm back near my home gym. I just didn't for a while. But yeah my cardio is fantastic for such an unfit athlete; my strength leaves a lot to be desired though. That's why i said in my orig comment or whatever that i was tall, but not that fit, so i wouldn't think i was like abnormal in my ability to score off of OLD
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:05 AM
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I mean i can feel ridges/contours but not the tightness or wetness unless it's like too tight or too dry.. My gf and i made the mistake of fucking near a fan once and it kept drying her out until we figured it out and turned it off LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:03 AM
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it’s just not as fun as meeting people IRL on a night out with your friends I agree!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 05:01 AM
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That's a good idea. I do do a lot of HIIT and plyometric stuff, i am getting back to lifting after a 8 month quarantine gym closed break (yea, i trained mma which is way riskier i just didn't want to pay for 2 gym memberships so i just trained like 8 sessions a week between bjj muay thai kickboxing wrestling and boxing classes offered here), hopefully i can build a bit of muscle while leaning up, or at least keep the muscle i have. I'm just trying to drop some of the belly fat and lower back fat…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:59 AM
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Thats very helpful actually. I got lots of girls hitting on me when i was doing my engineering masters (gross girls lol i said no) because i took the lead on all group projects and presentations and stuff, and most engineering students are not very... Shall we say... Leadership oriented. Geniuses, all, but not natural leaders.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:55 AM
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I was 9% body fat, 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭fuck i feel fat And yeah i know. I got lucky with my height (6'3). My gf is 5'9 and loves heels so she's happy that I'm that much taller. I wish i was 9% bf though. Fuckin hell. I love food too much. I used to be fat (272 lbs to 195 currently) and still am a fatty at heart lol. It's hard for me to get the commitment necessary to diet down to sub 10%
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:52 AM
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Certainly true and that's because men are lower in agreeableness. Women are more likely to be mentally ill, men are more likely to have interpersonal conflicts and on the extreme end, like you said, ASD
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:49 AM
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Well I train mma so in comparison to a lot of my training partners i am not very fit honestly. I'm about 15.5% body fat as per calipers (kinda inaccurate). Most of my mma buddies are 10-12%. And yeah the competition out here is fierce. Ripped dudes everywhere. Being tall is my only saving grace,lol. I'm also well endowed but that doesn't exactly help me in any way except when dating to please my gf. But yeah i have zero clout or status, i have like 200 insta followers LOL. And status is huge her…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:46 AM
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Lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:44 AM
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Yes i am Caucasian. Also I'm rather tall but I'm not particularly fit. I look more like damien maia's body fat than yoel romero's. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:38 AM
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Not really wondered about that. what do you posit is the reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:35 AM
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Okay fine lol yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:34 AM
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Lmaooo impressive? Yeah no, why tf would i flex in an anonymous internet forum with no ties to me irl May as well go all out! I'm a ten millionaire who's 7'0 with a 12 inch dick!!😂😂😂 gtfo
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:34 AM
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Nope. Displacing is not an inherently negative term. "take over the place, position, or role of (someone or something)." As to their point? Idk. Your guess is as good as mine
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:32 AM
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I know more men like this than women. Irrelevant anecdote that the data does not support Still men dont seek help like women do. That's true, but still, fewer mentally ill men than women exist. I agree the ones that are male seek help less.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:31 AM
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Could be.. I aint trying to doxx myself but i live in one of the richer suburbs of a big city with a lot of liberals , so I guess it's easier? My gf isn't from here tho
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:28 AM
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I'm thrilled with my situation i have a great gf who is intelligent.. And can actually understand that magical thing called "relevant comparisons"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:27 AM
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What's the reason then?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:23 AM
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Well regardless of the size of the vag... Basically as big as possible while still comfortable fitting
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:22 AM
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Oh well that's not what i claimed... I know some girls can't orgasm from PIV at all. But some can, who haven't.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:21 AM
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Nope, women are higher in the big 5 trait of neuroticism, and more likely to have anxiety and depression
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:21 AM
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Lmao, go back to FDS and commiserate about not being able to secure the elusive HVM
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:19 AM
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I mean yeah i had fun because i was able to meet a ton more girls! I feel like you may be didnt live in a decently sized city? Even if 99% of girls reject me if there's 3mil people in my city, someone will want to chill
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:18 AM
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For sure. Just saying generally
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:14 AM
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They frame it as though it’s a bad thing How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:13 AM
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No, OP is right (bigger is better UP UNTIL ITS PAINFUL)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 04:12 AM
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I’ve read the study before, it’s important to note that meeting online does not equal meeting on dating apps like tinder. That's a good point. Thanks for pointing that out
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:57 AM
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Jesus Christ no! I mean if you put a ruler across the head of his penis it would be 2" Get him to measure with a tailor's tape 😂 im curious I'm 5.5cirum and that's enough to hurt my gf sometimes if shes not aroused enough And sure well thats op's point. Bigger is better.... Until it doesn't fit. And that depends on the girl
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:56 AM
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On this scale? It sure is
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:55 AM
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Then it makes sense if they break up if they find out you hid it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:54 AM
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Yeah agreed i don't think it's that big a problem, it's possibly even more efficient because if you match you know they matched you so there's attraction there
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:41 AM
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Except depression and anxiety? 50% of middle aged women are on psychotropic drugs for anxiety or depression
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:40 AM
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I mean men are addicted to their phones too. But ya both are def socially stunted
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:40 AM
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Why do you say this? I mean i always had fun on OLD before i met my gf (who i met because we already knew eachother tangentially) because rejections were less painful so i could be more confident.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:39 AM
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I just want to comment on this post and commend all of the debaters for all being realistic and objective about penis size. Too many internet people say "oh my exbf was 10 inches" "oh I'm a foot long" like yeah ok pornstars are all about 7 to 8.5 inches and they're short and skinny so their cock looks bigger and better. So just props to everyone who knows that the average dick is about 5 inches with a stdv of about .75 inches
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:38 AM
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I mean yeah? That's true lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:36 AM
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never lived with a girl before, but my current girl and I are potentially considering it in the coming months, and I have no idea if I'm gonna learn some lessons the hard way or not. Let me know how it goes and any tips you may have. I'm going well with my gf and in about 18 months we're going to move in together if all continues to go well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:35 AM
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How does he know she has? 🤨 Okay, granted most women have a N of more than one, but why is there the assumption that each man other than him has been on the high end of the bell curve? If 5" is average that necessarily means the majority of men will be around that size, give or take an inch. Actually this is a good point! I never thought of that but it's true. If a girl has had sex with 10 guys it's still likely that the biggest was around 6.3 ish. Which isn't... Like a 8in monster
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:33 AM
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Woah woah your partner's 2inches thick?? Circumference is π*D so... 6.3 circumf? I mean that's 99.9th percentile in girth. No wonder its 👌😂😂 i hope you greatly enjoy his coke can but quit deluding yourself that small dicks are better
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:31 AM
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Both of those issues can be generally solved with technique. It honestly kinda sucks though, I'm larger than average and even though my gf is 5'9, i slam her cervix when i want to go hard. So really we are limited to either drunk sex where it doesn't hurt her and she likes it in the moment but it bruises her the day after (and one time even ripped a little gash 😥), or very slow sex where i leave the last inch or two outside or angle under her cervix. And the only position i can get that angle is…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:28 AM
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If you feel like the guy in that comment, you should marry when you're Under 25, or atleast meet and date your future wife before then. Then you will know the woman chose you for you, and over other options (at that age). If you're already midlate 30s or in 40s, really there's nothing you can do about that feeling
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:22 AM
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when it comes to sex itself (this is my opinion), dick size is as irrelevant as clearer skin ???? How tf? No way lol. Dick size is directly correlated with PIV orgasm frequency
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:18 AM
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Yeah that's a very fair comment. I agree. That said you are confirming OPs thesis (bigger is better until you get to painful size)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:16 AM
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definitely remember which partner had the wettest vagina, or the tightest That's fascinating. Vaginas pretty much all feel the same (good) to me lol. It matters alot more how the woman uses her hips and body than the actual vaginal characteristics
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:15 AM
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In USA the average is 5.1 not 5.93 though. Probably taking asians out makes Africans skew it haha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:14 AM
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Except in the USA average is 5.1 and stdv is 0.75, so 6in is about 75th-80th percentile in USA. Still bigger than porn would make you think!! But the world wide stats are skewed - indians, middle easterners, and east asians have small penises and there are like 4 billion of them
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:13 AM
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If you’ve been with lots of women, who all orgasmed from intercourse, I guarantee you some were faking. Or he was stimulating their clit as he fucked them! That's what i always did and do with my gf. Means even if they're part of the 80%, they can come from PIV + stimulation
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:10 AM
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Meh. It means with no clit stimulation. My gf orgasms from PIV in missionary or cowgirl because my abs and pubic pad rub on her clit as i fuck her. Technically she's part of the 80%. Realistically, she's not a huge fan of oral or fingering and prefers sex in those positions
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:09 AM
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But in my experience woman respond better to a good lover. A well rounded lover that will be a good kisser, good with his hands, fingers, his tongue, and his penis. That fucks her good 100% truth. However this comment is sidestepping OP's comment. He's saying... ALL ELSE EQUAL (i.e. both guys love eating pussy, are good at foreplay, etc), a woman would prefer a 7.5inch dick to a 5.1 inch dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:08 AM
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Most girls don't have orgasms via PIV, Do you think it's possible that many girls don't orgasm via PIV PRECISELY BECAUSE the average penis doesn't hit the A-spot (near the cervix)?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:07 AM
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I'd send you links to comments or posts where this is talked about, but honestly it would probably just hurt your brain with the blatant stupidity lol Honestly that might be the most obvious hypocrisy in the entirety of TRP. Both sexes bond to sex partners, and some people of either sex can divorce sex from love
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 03:02 AM
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So either you really don't know what you are talking about or I'm delusional and should be in therapy. I think both are true lol. RP men are dumb if they think women SMV immediately dies at 30. You need therapy and to get back on the zoloft that you obviously forgot to take while writing this. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 02:59 AM
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Sure. That's the alternative
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 02:57 AM
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Oh yeah i agree haha
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 02:53 AM
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or that they are getting less for being more to the table I mean it should matter/ they should just not accept less. They should stay strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 02:50 AM
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Bad bot
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 01:03 AM
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Here's one, idr if this is the exact one i saw https://ifstudies.org/blog/are-married-people-still-happier
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 12:37 AM
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No, i agree. But if you're 30 and know i have a big problem with cheating, and then omit that you've cheated before, the fact that you lied is worse to me than the fact that you cheated. If a prospective LTR came up to me and said "i want to be with you romantically, i know you have a problem with cheating, but i cheated 14 years ago when i was 16. I'm a different person now, XYZ reasons, I haven't cheated since..."etc then i would probably be ok with dating them. The problem is the omission.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 12:36 AM
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LMAO says the weirdo who can't equate two similar things being relevant in a discussion. Good luck with ur body image issues
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/20 12:33 AM
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I actually think it's the opposite. Attractive girls are more likely to want both attractiveness, true, but also to want the other positive qualities like personality confidence intelligence and drive. They're the only ones who CAN secure both, lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 11:13 PM
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Both effectively have to deal with getting what's left on the market, and the general agreement is that the pickings are either slim or less than optimal Well, yes, i agree with that. But my point is that a man who built his finances up is superior in value to a woman who partied and drank and fucked her way through her 20s. So he should not settle for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 11:08 PM
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Lol. No. We are talking about porn being "bad because it sets unrealistic expectations for women's bodies and behavior." The examples i give are the same, except for men. I understand that you prefer to put your head in the sand and ignore the fact that men and women face similar body image problems, but that doesn't mean i shouldn't at least try to get you to see the truth. Even if you refuse it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 11:05 PM
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you cheated on a boyfriend or a girlfriend in high school, does that mean that you'll also do it when you're in your late 20s and much more mature It doesn't mean you'll do it. But it does mean you are more likely to do it, and I would want to know. I love my girlfriend to death. I plan to marry her in the future. Yet if she hid that she cheated on a HS boyfriend i would break up with her. Partially because of the cheating, but MOSTLY because of the deception/lying by omission. But we had this c…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 11:03 PM
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Maybe. I would point you to the study of happiness being higher from single people than unhappy marriages. Happy marriages are best and people are happiest in that category. But if you don't properly vet? You risk being worse off than single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 11:01 PM
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Very true. And meaningful sex is better to me at least
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:36 PM
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Absolutely and utterly false. Again, educate yourself on weight cutting. Ronda fought at 155 in Judo olympic trials. Cutting 20lbs is trivial. I cut 25lbs before my fight. There is a famous story about Ronda cutting 19lbs in one day, just to prove a point to the Ultimate Fighter rookies she was coaching who struggled to make weight
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:36 PM
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Too bad. The downside is greater than the upside if you loosen the previously described standards. Option one is to wait until you somehow attract someone like that. Option two is to improve yourself until you can consistently do that. Option three is to be alone. Option four? Lower your standards and suffer
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:33 PM
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100% true, all my best relationships have been from people i knew previously or friends of friends, including my current one
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:18 PM
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I’m referring to Ronda Rousey in the ring. She looks huge, at least in comparison to the 5’6 woman who I was referencing. Right. And in the cage, Ronda weighs at least 155 if not 165. She cut a ton of weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 09:02 PM
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Sorry? We are talking about unrealistic expectations, bro
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:58 PM
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Average women are only picky for hookups. I've seen even my more attractive friends with pretty meh boyfriends. While true you are ignoring the other metrics women use for RMV as opposed to SMV. Your more attractive friends may have meh face or meh body BFs, but they're probably confident, extroverted, maybe tall and fit maybe not, wealthy, intelligent, or some combination of those positive qualities
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:57 PM
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Never hear my bros pull out their list for requirements their GF has to have They simps then lmao. From a comment the other day: vet. Vet a woman thoroughly. My provisions before any thought of marriage include: woman must make more than enough to self support without my help (2x median wage minimum). Woman is not told about my wealth until at least 6mo-1yr in. I drove a shitty $1500 2001 beater when i met my gf. DO NOT PRESENT AS WEALTHY! Unless ofc you just want hookups. Present as poor or mid…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:55 PM
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It's true, that's how the game works, you have to hook up downwards as a man or else simply wait for a while until you can go across levels. Although it's often the opposite for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:54 PM
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It's like the square root of a negative number 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:52 PM
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It's true, only attractive men can bag attractive women
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:52 PM
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L M A O
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:52 PM
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Yeah but if you yourself are below average? Best go dumpster diving lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:51 PM
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rather jack off than fucking a fattie. You know, at first i disagreed with this but after a few hookups when i got more attractive, i began to have this mindset myself. I set my standards high after a few for that very reason, I'd personally rather have an attractive girl for a hookup once every month as opposed to an unattractive girl every week. And that was about what i can do if I'm trying hard/ working tinder and shit, going to the bars fri and sat. I have a LTR now but honestly if i ended …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:51 PM
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I agree tho, most average guys will have more sex by pursuing relationships than they would by trying to get laid off Tinder or at a party. Agree re: tinder; disagree re: party/club. If you're at the party or club alone as a girl, unless you have a bf and are there to support a friend/wingman for a friend, you're probably both - single, drunk, and not super conservative a person. It's very easy as a man to hook up with girls at a club or party. Maybe half or fewer have bfs and are unavailable, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:25 PM
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meh. I am convinced the girls with the highest n-counts are usually kinda chubby girls with ok faces. Actually yes there is a study that shows unattractive women are more like to dual mate AND have higher Ns
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:19 PM
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I disagree i think if you're serious about being with someone for your whole life you need to be completely honest about your flaws and successes. If you've cheated you need to let the person know. If you have an std you need to let the person know. If you have won the lottery you need to let the person know. If you are 170IQ you need to let the person know. Basically - you must be honest and open
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:18 PM
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No no no. Please educate your self about the sport of MMA. Ronda rousey weight cut down to 135. She was not 135 walk around weight. She definitely cut at least 20-30lbs. Cris Cyborg cut like 40-50lbs. In MMA there's an advantage to be gained in grappling and wrestling positions by having a higher weight and body mass than your opponent. Ronda was the grappling queen, partially because of her judoka skills but partially because she was heavier than all her opponents and cut down well. Go look at.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:09 PM
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I also realized 10 different girls a year is really achievable if your willing to try ...it's like 1 different girl a month Definitely true, after i lost wt and got fit i went on a rampage and basically was with that in a semester (3mo), you just have to put yourself out there and be super forward and aggressive. Not too difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:05 PM
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being good looking and persuasive helps but its only part if it. Meh. It's most of it. I mean you have to be "yes" on the "yes/no" attractiveness scale first. And then, yeah hit on every thing with a pulse
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:58 PM
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Break what mold? Perhaps if these men didn't put women on a pedestal and think it was their job to impress them they'd stick out. Yep true. Not giving a shit was when i found the most success. Un fortunately atm when I'm in a happy LTR with no desire to cheat is when women are most interested 😡
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:58 PM
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Average and ugly men always think they're too good for average and ugly women No they dont lol average men go for and get rejected by average women all the damn time
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:56 PM
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Sure. TV and porn cause men to have unrealistic expectations about women. TV and porn have women to have unrealistic expectations about men. The average dick size is 5.1 inches. Women expect 7 at least. The average height is 5ft8in. Women expect 6'0 at least. The average fitness level is 29bmi/ high 20%s body fat. Women expect teens % bodyfat at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:55 PM
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Thats fair lol. I can see why you'd be biased in that situation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:53 PM
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Most desirable people meet their marriage track LTR in their early to mid twenties Yep this is why I'm hopeful for my LTR going places; met at 22. A lot different than at 32.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:48 PM
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Never justified in dead bedroom unless the issue is discussed and an open relationship is agreed upon
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:47 PM
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in meaning she cheated on him with me. That probably gets a pass. Yeeesh bad move chief. She cheats on someone with you, she's likely to cheat on you with someone better than you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:46 PM
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drunken hookup confessed the next day is different from a mistress you've had squirreled away for months. I agree, but both are unforgivable sins to me
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:46 PM
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You don't really 'owe' future partners anything, I disagree, i think you owe it to future partners to disclose and let them make the decision whether or not they want to stay with you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:45 PM
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One cheater may be capable of future loyalty while another is not. I agree however it's no one's responsibility to reform them. I believe once a cheater always a cheater, even if they're faithful to you for now, they won't hesitate to screw you.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:44 PM
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Is a person who cheats ever capable of future loyalty, whether in the same relationship or a future one? I believe that they probably are, but i won't give them the chance to prove it. You're a cheater? I am rejecting you forthwith
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:36 PM
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doesn’t mean they are successfully getting women hotter than them either Nah. They are in relationships. True that they often have money or status as well but that's besides the point that women often date down and fuck upwards
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:33 PM
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I gotcha, yea I have weak teeth but still would prefer organs to be prioritized... We have pretty good mechanical fixes for tooth issues like you said, but almost none for like... Kidney failure or liver failure
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:31 PM
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Thats true lol. Maybe i should angel invest 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:30 PM
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What does 6 or half a dozen mean? Lol But yes, it's true, "bitchy" (low agreeableness big5 trait) women are less likely to be submissive in bed. They probably will find a harder time attracting men in the first place (men care less about careerist women as long as they can self support/40k per year is like the point at which diminishing returns are met, whereas for men it's linear returns for SMV/RMV on earnings), as they spent more time on their career and less time cultivating traits men care …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:10 PM
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Nah. Your perspective is twisted by radicals on this page, TRP, FDS. Most people do not believe such obviously contrary positions.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:08 PM
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would a woman who’s a 7 ever settle for you when she could find a better looking guy with as much money or status. I mean if she can she will. But you overestimate the propensity of men to be both attractive and wealthy or high status lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:07 PM
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Commoditization of a human? Certainly. So is bodybuilding and modeling. Do you have a similar moral objection to male modeling and bodybuilding?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:03 PM
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? The truth is that women practice dual mate strategies. The studies show that this is true.... For unattractive women. Attractive women can secure a satisfactory man who has both traits (alpha hot traits and provider traits). Obviously we know what the best combo is (probably 70%+ alpha) but the 30% is important for a stable partnership
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:11 AM
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can enter a venue like a club or nice restaurant and almost immediately see attractive women while there might only be 1-2 hot guys in the entire place That's a factor of your standards not the objective relative attractiveness of a man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:01 AM
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Im SURE that it can be done. It's probably just too expensive to run for something dumb like rating idiots on a message board lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 10:00 AM
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I think the issue with these studies is women often believe they are in a relationship with the man they are fucking, whereas for the man she's just a fuckbuddy. So the man will count himself as single whereas the woman won't That's true. That could be the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 09:53 AM
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What's the physical mechanism for regrowing enamel?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 09:52 AM
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I would love an AI rating system that objectively rated your pics and put them on PPD flairs out of 10 or whatever so you could know if you were talking to a 2 or 8 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 09:51 AM
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Lmaooo omg you are right
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 09:46 AM
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It's just that successful women are bitchy or just that men are intimidated by successful women I would argue the former by pure psychology - disagreeable persons are more likely to go in to high paying jobs such as lawyer or business. Women high in disagreeableness are totally more likely to be bitchy in their interpersonal lives. Might be a trait correlation rather than a monetary one
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 09:31 AM
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men also whine about gold diggers and alimony You honestly think the same men complain about both women not dating low educated men are the ones worried about alimony? Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 09:26 AM
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Not sure who your friends are who have shit self confidence lol but did you miss my point? Men make the first move. So all women have to do is respond. If they're attractive, and make the first move, why would they not accept even if insecure?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 09:19 AM
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It’s even worse if the city has a lot more women than men like NYC Prettttty sure all big cities have more single men than single women. Wasn't there a graphic design thing on a study about that recently? I'll have to find it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 09:16 AM
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Huh? No lol. Most attractive women are with attractive men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 09:04 AM
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Ooooooh cool cool lol. u/SherbertBacon sup bby
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:52 AM
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Whatever. Those shows. The shows where the men are sculpted and 10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:52 AM
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I'm a genz man (barely) and none of myself or my friends have been impacted by this supposed issue. I think It's women projecting issues on to men because of their moral hatred for porn. And, some (few) men have porn addictions, and they take that as confirmation bias
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:45 AM
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This is why I flat put refuse to meet a tinder/ feeld date at one of our houses. It's imperative to meet them in public, Smart woman. I do the same. I'll bring one over after vetting, but i can't stand having a crazy know where i live if i tell her it doesn't feel like we have chemistry.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:43 AM
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You believe that the industry of porn is morally wrong? Please explain why you think voluntary sex work/videoing it, is morally wrong. Are you a Tradcon then? And other dude/chick is right. Comparing voluntary sex work to slavery is ludicrous
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:40 AM
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Porn creates unrealistic female expectations. The Bachelor creates unrealistic male expectations. "Reality is often disappointing"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:35 AM
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woman watch violent porn more often than men, but men watch porn in general far more Yes. True. But women state that the negative parts of porn (impact irl) include men wanting to do violent or extreme acts. Whereas in reality the women are the ones who request these acts! Unless ppl think its "internalized misogyny" LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:33 AM
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That is NOT common among men IRL. Abusing women by hitting them is literally only fetishized by the men who spiral down the weird porn rabbit hole. Most men want their gfs to have pleasure. In MY experience actually the only times I've ever done BDSM was when the girl requested it. And i refused at first until she begged me. And felt uncomfortable the whole time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:31 AM
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What are the two different things? Both are bar patrons dancing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:29 AM
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dancing with my bro’s was something I was never able to adjust to or be comfortable with. Yea... definitely on my “no fucking way Totally same lol. I love my bros but touching them while dancing is gag inducing
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:26 AM
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Lmaooo Were you in Al Anbar then judging by your username?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:25 AM
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True but thats usually why they charge men cover
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:14 AM
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the 4-8 range the women will always be less attractive since the men will always have lower standards and will compete amongst each other That's not how it works... Men have higher standard for commitment than women. Hookup? True. Man 6 w woman 4. Relationship? Usually man 6 with woman 6 or 7
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 08:03 AM
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He’s not rich either and kind of short and skinny, but he’s kind, thoughtful and intelligent, and treats her well. They’ve been together for years. This is the exception not the rule. Also there are men who are both hot... AND thoughtful, kind and intelligent
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:56 AM
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because there aren't as many attractive men So you don't believe that if you took a normal distribution, 60th percentile are with 60th percentile women and so on? I.e. men's normdist may be shifted left/ worse in general But i mean comparatively. Does the 8th hottest woman in a room of 100 pair up with the 8th hottest man? In your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:47 AM
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But my theory is that my friends didn’t have the courage to chat guys like them up or give them a try. My theory is that you're a better conversationalist than your friends, or hotter. I'm sure there is a certain amount of lack of "sending it" but tbf, guys make the first move and all you fuckers have to do is react positively haha. I kid, but it is a valid point. If a hot guy messages them they don't reply?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:45 AM
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Perfect reply. It's true. Similar attractiveness women and men are usually paired off for LTRs. The problem comes with certain women being unaware of their true looks and instead thinking they deserve much better than their match
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:37 AM
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Lowering the wage causes more economic growth lol. Thats why immigrants are a net positive. More is produced for cheaper.. Duh
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:35 AM
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Does she suit your program? Does she reciprocate? Is she attractive and works to maintain her appearance I agree. I was just talking about this on another thread. Vet VERY carefully before committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:34 AM
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I mean cmon have men ever not wanted sex? Lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:29 AM
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Huh? Cuz men see it coming due to the info being more publicized
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:28 AM
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I get it. That's his own fault. Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 07:17 AM
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So let me get this straight. You truly believe that it is not a common occurrence that men "orbit" (to use the colloquial term) attractive women, in order to try and get in their pants/ or they are ACTUALLY in love with the woman. They express this and then the woman declines them. They stay friends because the man hopes there's a chance and the woman uses the man for emotional dumping and maybe even for financial aid. You believe that is rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 03:00 AM
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Idk i dont know your situation I'd have to see your financial statements from before the marriage and then maybe at 2 or 3 equal times during it, then at the end
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 02:39 AM
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I disagree. The human imperative for sex is so strong. Betas won't check out. Most will just try harder even if it wont work
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 02:38 AM
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Those things were already happening long before women whined their way into "equality." Sure at a much much slower rate. Women entering the workforce were unequivocally a benefit to the economy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 01:11 AM
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Nah if you're too thick to understand just try re reading the comment a few times
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 01:10 AM
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And no, it is not a common thing for either gender. Disagree entirely, you just ignore it because you don't want to admit women do it often
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 01:09 AM
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So yeah you didn't sign one then 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/20 01:09 AM
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Yeah m4a is crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:20 PM
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it's most important to chase status and the best way is to go it alone on raising children without the extended support networks that humans have raised children within for virtually all of the remainder of history that isn't the recent part. I agree that is true. Extended family helping you out is the best way to make sure children are taken care of
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:18 PM
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I mean sure, the benefits are for society and the economy. Which indirectly benefit men but not directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:09 PM
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Drug lingo, "someone who is not me" referring to yourself but without putting yourself actually in the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:08 PM
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spend more time on hobbies or 'me time'. The thing is - these hobbies do cause spending money. And i do agree that if 50% check out, a societal collapse is risked. However most of billy betas aren't gonna check out! Pussy simping is more of a draw than you expect. People want women even if it's clear they won't get em. They'll keep trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:06 PM
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Lol. You mustve fucked up somewhere. No prenup?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:01 PM
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I don't think you can state that. After all, the study controls for wealth. I would agree that wealth would be another coefficient in the regression
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 11:01 PM
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By explaining to you that a man having sex with many women in a hunter gatherer society would be the rule, not the exception. Humans are not naturally monogamous. That is a societal construct. A good one, but still.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 10:43 PM
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Women are not just parasites. I never claimed that they were. I just said that when they are in a friendship with a simp they often take advantage of the man emotionally or financially. Men can do the same. It's a human failing. Not a female failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 10:42 PM
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Yes. There will be a lot of people (women and male simps) who will try to gaslight OP Yup. Stay strong kings. Don't marry anyone who doesn't have their shit together no matter how much you're in love with em. This becomes difficult depending on your job haha Ah good point.. I was presenting as a poor masters student lmao. Although this was before my investments exploded so although i had a few ten grand i didn't have as much as i do now. Still, most masters students don't have $35k in the bank. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 10:36 PM
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Huh? You asked what benefits have occurred due to gender equality. I stated them. What exactly are you trying to prove?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 10:33 PM
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disagree that the size of that group is presently sufficient for the conclusion to be robust as applicable to men who would opt out Well you would disagree with the researchers then. In other words, it's the societal brainwashing that marriage is what conscientious men do that would currently lead conscientious men to disproportionately marry. I agree that there is a certain amount of societal pressure. I think men should be entirely objective about their decision and step back from the emotion …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 10:32 PM
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Sometimes. High wealth men often have to be married for appearances
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 10:02 PM
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Great point. I hope biden doesnt lower the estate tax exemption :( my parents got divorced (with no prenup lol so one reason I'm so prereq heavy on the thought of marriage) so my sibling and I will be able to pay 0 since estate tax applies to each bequeather rather than the receiver. But if Biden lowers the exemption by half or more it'll cost us millions. I'm hopeful since Biden isn't Bernie, he will help his neolib buddies out and keep it high or even raise it (because if we keep making 8% a y…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:59 PM
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knock up some bar whore, pay your child support, see your kid, lather rinse repeat the end. Sounds like a horribly unfulfilling life with a child that grows up to be a school shooter. Great.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:53 PM
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I never said it was an ideal. Just the way it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:52 PM
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Nah, the marital status of the parents is the operative factor, not the wealth. I can find the study i was looking at if you want. However you're 100% right that a failed marriage has worse future outcomes for the kids than a single rich dad. It's a risk. Similarly - men who are unhappily married or divorced are less happy than single men, who are less happy than happily married men. It's a risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:51 PM
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There is nothing for men to gain from marrying in current year. Except for the clear benefit children get from a two-parent married household. I'd agree, if you limited your statement to "men who dont want children"
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:46 PM
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Higher GDP, production, average GNP, PPP, Technological improvement and production efficiency improvements
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:46 PM
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And even persisting till today in the working classes Lol. Nope. Check the stats
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:45 PM
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And even persisting till today in the working classes Lol. Nope. Check the stats
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:45 PM
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why is it her fault if he still wants to be friends? It's her fault if she uses him for emotional dumping or favors. A common occurrence.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:34 PM
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unrelated to your criticism of her post Highly related actually. Her original misconception came from that thought (men will fuck anything that moves)
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:34 PM
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Oh wow i want to go see orville and wilbur's new flying contraption. Hope the Argonne-Meuse Offensive goes well!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:33 PM
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Yeah a "real" relationship is where the man gets manipulated and exploited all for the privilege of having to shoulder an increasingly aging ugly nagging burden Nope. That isn't either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:32 PM
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Yep totally credible. Huntergatherer societies were decidedly non monogamous. "Hahaha omg u proved me wrong so im just gonna laugh" Cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:24 PM
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Move to a country where women do not have priviledges to vote/dictate a country Sigh. This is not a real relationship. Also, privileges* I guess you should lose your right to vote too you can't spell 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:23 PM
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He IS the unfair standard tho lol. Idk if this is hypothetical or "SWIM" type a deal but..
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:22 PM
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Simply don't get married unless you guys are having kids or something! This is also true. You can vow to love someone forever without telling the government and signing half your wealth away. However if you plan to have a family this all goes out the window because children are more important than a somewhat low risk (if you have a prenup) of losing half your wealth. Studies show overwhelmingly that married households create better and more successful children. And yep totally agreed. Basically …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:21 PM
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And don't think you're hiding wealth unless you really go out of your way. Like use a bus pass, have no valuable cars, rent a shitty apartment. Shop at Walmart, because women can detect a minute molecule of "rich guy pretending to slum it". really go out of your way. You must. Otherwise you will always question your relationship. You must hide it. At least for 6mo-1yr
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:19 PM
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And why it's working less and less nowadays. Must be frustrating for them 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:18 PM
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As for getting into a relationship, try to hide your wealth as much as possible and downplay your success. Eyy i basically said the exact same thing. I drove a shit $1500 2001 beater when i met my gf.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:17 PM
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That's not a bad idea. There are a couple other tips i might add -- Family Foundations. Tax deductible, can "work for it" and pay yourself a salary (cough hillary clinton cough), also untouchable. --prenuptial agreements. A solid one will hold up, make sure to have a fantastic lawyer (don't cheap out!). Make sure your future spouse fully understands and accepts all provisions and makes a legal statement to that effect, in addition to signing the prenup itself. --make enough money that you don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:17 PM
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Nope. False. I clarified further down what i meant and we have actually had a good discussion about horny simps making women think some thing is wrong with them if a man rejects them for sex. You're just ornery and want to fight. Gtfo
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:51 PM
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While nursing, teaching, care givers are, they've been occupied by women for a while now. Tbf with boomers getting old, we will need more care givers. But yeah sure. Men occupy most of the STEM fields and trades. Thats not likely to change. But that's the point. Billy Beta the software engineer will just "try harder and be nicer." The fact that he won't even get a crumb of pussy now won't make him step out of society like you suggest. Most men still want to eat and have a house even if they don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:50 PM
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Yeah being rejected for a fuck by men after being taught your all horny 100% of the time feels like a slap in the face That's the problem. Dumb horny simps ruin our reputation lol. For men who are able to get casual encounters whenever they choose (depending ofc, on some factors like size of city, covid pandemic, standards level etc), it just simply gets quite boring to fuck random people. I would be MORE likely to fuck a friend than a random person, but still would prefer a relationship. Which …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:45 PM
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I'm not RP lol so if i dont understand it oh well Regardless, AWALT is irrelevant because of the study that proved dual mating is the provenance of ugly and unattractive women. I thought it was even you who posted it. Might have been mimoxs then
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:35 PM
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Actually, someone (was it atlas? Idr) posted a fascinating study about dual mating that proved it was unattractive and below average woman who pursue dual mating because they are physically unable to secure both characteristics in a man. Above average women can. Ill try to find the study... But the point is - AFBB is only the case in specific scenarios where the man and woman are both HEAVILY flawed. Which, if you're seeking out TRP due to relationship failures, both probably are, so i get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:34 PM
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Pretty sure its 20% but regardless it is def a big % who are not lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:23 PM
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What if all her male tribe members would castrate and kill you for it If that were the case then Obviously the male would not do it. However you're fatally misinterpreting the reaction of hunter gatherer societies to sexual encounters. I suggest Christopher Ryan's Sex at Dawn to correct your deficiency of knowledge. Rather, if a young woman got impregnated, the group would raise the child together. Women would have sex with dozens of guys, so that the man would have parental investment in ALL of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:22 PM
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About 97% of the time, ‘friend zoned’ men have not made any indication to the woman that there is romantic interest, and the woman genuinely thinks that they’re just friends. Okay then that's not the woman's fault, unless there is a clear implication by the man that the woman picks up on and is ignoring because she wants not to believe it or whatever, if there is truly no indication then obviously it's the guy's fault. It’s a term used to imply that actual, genuine friendship is impossible betwe…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:17 PM
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I disagree completely. The input from 50% of the population who did not work working now outweighs the number of betas who will actually get disillusioned, which will be some, but most will delude themselves in to thinking they have a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:14 PM
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Lol ya let me just call the NIH
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:13 PM
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Lol you just had to jump in with that didn't you I thought you weirdos wanted a perfect tradcon virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:13 PM
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Name the difference, https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9054986/ Literally only novice ethicists compare humans and animals. Animals are not objects. Nor are they close to as valuable moral entities as humans. Again, you try to compare the two, you simply make yourself look stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:11 PM
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Lol. No. i disagree with her stupid blanket statement
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:40 PM
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Its quite amusing
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:39 PM
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Chill lol I'm saying even if they would have been cool i wouldn't have done it. You really never can make blanket statements like you're making. Not all guys will fuck all attractive women. This mindset makes women who get rejected by hot men super depressed lol. But we can be not in the mood for one of many reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 09:05 AM
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No. You said a man would fuck if the opportunity presented itself. I had the opportunity. I declined.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 08:58 AM
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yep all im saying is that that method is counterproductive haha
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:59 AM
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Ehhh... I've wingmanned for a couple friends where i showed them pics of a girl i knew so they were interested first. But yea sometimes it's a rando. That's a lot harder, even for me. I am reasonably attractive so my strategy on that is to find an attractive girl with an unattractive one and I start chatting up the unattractive one while leaving my buddy with the attractive one, which often fails, but often at least allows my buddy to get her number.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:59 AM
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LMAO savage, but yeah, you have your priorities straight
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:57 AM
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Having one guy you don't sexually like desire you while you're being rejected by the ones you "really want" isn't going to stop you from feeling drained or sad. Very true. Although, OP is assuming the hypothetical girl is getting laid by attractive men, just unable to secure commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:56 AM
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All men would fuck a relatively attractive woman given the chance. nope. I've had two women friends i turned down because I preferred their friendship to a quickie and then forever awkwardness.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:55 AM
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because women, unattractive women. Who posted that study that showed dual mating was done almost exclusively by unattractive women, was it atlas? IDR. But there is good evidence for it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:53 AM
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The term for “platonic friends” who are so called used this way is “friendzoned”, another equally bastardized term perpetuated by the manosphere this is simply false. Friendzoned was a term long before TRP. Friendzoned is a absolutely a distinct and different thing than being "just platonic friends." Friendzone is referring specifically to a girl who knows a guy is in to her, and he has expressed it, and is either too pussy to ask her out, or he did and was rejected, but he still simps around lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:49 AM
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Probably the traditional TRP mindset of "fuck on the first date or at the very least soon after, or else she's not in to you enough attractiveness wise to LTR" that said a lot of TRPers will miss out on their tradcon dream girl by doing that because some conservative girls will have the self control to not smash a guy immediately even if he gets her dripping at all times, because she wants to secure his commitment and is possibly virgin until marriage if conservative enough. I do see a nugget of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:45 AM
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I agree that the emotional tampon rag is taking the place of the traditional schlub beta husband software engineer type situation. With that said, more and more women are actually getting married because they WANT to marry a guy, instead of having to for financial circumstances. This is massive. This is a fundamental societal shift in the marriage dynamic. Rich Alphas: unaffected. The richness here is simply a bonus point in their favor. Poor alphas: slightly benefited. The woman's assets might …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 07:22 AM
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Normal dudes have insta and snap maybe, and have their own profile pictures
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:47 AM
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I don't think this behavior is specific to women, though it's possible it's more common for women. Honestly only because women tend to have more beta orbiter type guys and therefore more knowledge about THEIR friends/people they hang out with. So, tangential relationship opportunities for your friends with their friends. Not using beta orbiter as an insult btw, just because it's a common term that you will know what I am describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:46 AM
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Beats OLD bc a person recommendation happened. This is true in almost anything. In-person job referrals beat internet apps. In-person hookup recommendations beat Tinder. In-person relationship recommendations beat Match.com
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:44 AM
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difference here is that wingmen usually target strangers I actually disagree. Not if they want success for the target winged dude. The success rate is much higher if you know the girl you are recommending your buddy to
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:42 AM
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I set my best bro up with his gf Now he doesn't talk to me anymore.. ;(
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:41 AM
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I've known some girls to recommend friends to guys that they like so that their friends can get the scoop on them first Damnnn that sounds counter productive lol. What if Girl1 likes Guy1, Girl1 tells Girl2 and Guy1 to date to try and get the scoop on Guy1, then Girl2 and Guy1 hit it off and end up staying together?? lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:40 AM
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I disagree. Also -- don't you TRPrs hate being beta bux? Have you changed your mind? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:34 AM
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Perfect articulation of why everyone should be on UBI
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:33 AM
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sorry, what? When has peterson ever talked about animal issues/animal rights? I'm sure he doesn't condone factory farming.. Also please don't tell me you're making a legitimate comparison between human genocide and animals being killed. There is a massive ethical difference and to say otherwise only makes you look silly. You can have ethical concerns about animals without being silly about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:30 AM
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Nope, no confusion here. Looks are necessary for attraction too. Connection and personality are important for attraction. Arousal and attraction must both be present. There is some overlap.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:23 AM
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Sometimes. Sometimes not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:22 AM
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Yeah that's fair and true i agree
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:18 AM
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"You just can't understand things like i do" Yeah great discussion chief
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:14 AM
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Not sure if you're aware of this but the internet is not indicative of normal dudes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/20 06:10 AM
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In places like the USA, or even UK at times when people are working 2-3 jobs, 60+ hour work weeks, no one has time for children or socialising. Yep as jordan peterson states love him or hate him, "get your house in order before fixing the world." For someone to have a fulfilling relationship they must have a solid income first and foremost, or at least one partner must
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 11:46 PM
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Typically with STR's what causes them to end is someone catches feels. They would end? Do you mean, they would transition in to LTRs?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 11:45 PM
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Currently, women of reproductive age are more educated than men and out earning them. Right, except for those on government dole to take care of their 4 single children of 4 races.. Lol The careerist women with a master's degree should absolutely date within their social strata or above. But most women do not. More women than men do; but most women are still "some college" or "hs degree"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 11:44 PM
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See i disagree if they're past menopause. If they want a baby badly and have 5-10y left? Oh boy. Best watch out lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 11:43 PM
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This is a reason why UBI is preferable to targeted welfare
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 11:42 PM
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Isn't the saying Black don't Crack? Haha. Yeah honestly some attractive black guys look the same from age like 16 to 50. It's slightly jealousy inducing haha
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 11:41 PM
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Oh trust me. I understand perfectly. I feel it right now because of dating the only woman I've ever truly loved (in comparison to past gfs who i realize now i was just fond of, not in love with). That feeling can be used for good (i.e. to treat your partner well, to work out harder, to be more ambitious) or bad (to accuse your partner of impropriety, to break yourself down, to wallow in anxiety and neuroticism). Context is key. But adults definitely are not immune.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 11:40 PM
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Your interpretation of those hormones as feelings and opinions WERE cultural. If you were in 1600s new england you might have been deemed "hysterical." In 2500 we might venerate those feelings as religious. Who knows. The point is, the conversation around young people (post pubescent to young adult) marrying dating and having sex is HEAVILY colored by time, culture, and place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 11:39 PM
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Maturation is varied and happens based on the individual. Many people are immature in their 30s. Some are fully mature at 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:32 PM
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Lmfao what Nah, those are exploitation. Men who possess that material should be publicly castrated
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:31 PM
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wasn’t a social construct for me and my friends Yes it was. That's the point. Your opinions came in the context of your society which denotes adulthood not like in middle ages as 1st period, but rather at the age of 18 years. we did not really mentally “mature” until we turned 25 Certainly. 25 is when the frontal lobe is fully developed. That said, you can still kill in war, drink, get married, sign contracts, rent a car, smoke weed, etc before that age. Again, very arbitrary societal demarcatio…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:30 PM
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Lmao yeah i wonder if its another race thing i feel like i cant judge non white ages as well
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:27 PM
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True but the mind being unready is a societal construct. I'm not saying it's bad, in fact it's probably right. But physically, in the past, we married as teens and had kids as teens, and had like 5 person family with an 8 year old by 22 or 23. Now if you see an 8 year old you'll guess the parent is 35 Which is fine. More mature for sure. I think the way we're doing it now is better + it reduces overpopulation
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:35 PM
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For sure. Longevity, self esteem... I mean once i started mma i literally got addicted. I couldn't train during Quarantine from march to like july and i honestly started getting a little bit depressed about it. I have a home gym with a cable multipurpose machine, an arc trainer and some adjustable dumbbells, but it's just not as good as learning techniques and sparring with them. I used to be obese and i lost weight frsh year in college for SMV/health reasons but i did it mainly thru diet... I a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:32 PM
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You must be shit at judging age then lol i mean sure theres the old passing teen exception and the 25yr old who looks 14, but the vast vast majority of people look their age or thereabouts
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:26 PM
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What are you sorry about I have a very happy relationship lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:21 PM
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Well that's the exception then lol. Avg period age has been falling due to obesity and estrogen
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:43 PM
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Yes I honestly can't tell the difference between a 15 year old and a 20 year old woman looks wise You sure? Maybe some 15yrold on the internet, but... IRL? Seems simple to me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:42 PM
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What do you call sex cult?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:42 PM
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When I was a teenager I couldn't even stomach women younger than 30 What??? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:34 PM
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Right. Soy and estrogen and obesity cause earlier periods than the past
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:33 PM
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Seems to be all creatures with a central nervous system... But if we have the ability to engineer it away i wouldn't be chuffed, i just don't think it's possible
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:12 PM
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Yeah should almost always pull out even on BC. Some people even pullout with a condom. Always use double BC tactics if you can. Pull out + BC is the best because you still get to rawdog it (Darren till special xD) Oh yes and NEVER EVER trust yourself solely to pull out!!!! Bad idea!!! My friend does this and i cringe every time we talk about it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 08:02 PM
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say this as a guy who was baby trapped but only after we'd been together 3 years. Ouch :( what happened? You weren't ready to commit to marriage so she "forced it" via pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 07:58 PM
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True but most people are fat (72% by last count ovwt or obese), or lazy/low industriousness. It's funny and sad that for many people, paying thousands on dates is actually easier to them than lifting 5x a week
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 07:57 PM
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Yeah i mean cmon. The gym is great for well-being and health. I'm about to go lift in an hour myself!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 07:56 PM
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The real question should be why do people waste so much time and MONEY trying to get sex when there are literally men who are getting laid for free. I mean... If they have to pay for sex what're they gonna do? Just not pay and go without?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 07:54 PM
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Looks do translate to sexual pleasure though. Looks are critical for a man or woman to be fully aroused
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 07:54 PM
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Well dominance hierarchies are natural. I hate to use the peterson example but it's a good one (lobsters). We can try to mitigate their negative effects (right wing extremism) but we shouldn't go too far in doing so (left wing extremism)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 07:52 PM
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You can survive without sex Not really. After getting fit and becoming more successful, i honestly can't stop wanting more. Then i got in to a LTR with a girl i love, and it got 1000x better. Being inside the girl I love is the most connecting, validating, amazing emotional and physical experience i can imagine. You wouldn't understand because obviously you've never had sex with a girl (or guy) you care deeply about
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 07:47 PM
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It is impossible to eliminate them, we should try to minimize their impact on personal autonomy but that's unlikely to happen really. All we can do is mitigate their damage
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 07:25 PM
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But men can knock up hundreds of women per year, women have a limit on how many babies they can birth So an 18 year old guy can knock up a 16 year old girl AND a 28 year old woman. Correct. But what's the point? The man will be doing both. It proves my point actually. The more babies a woman has the better for gene propagation The mother’s age has far less of an effect on the speed of gene propagation than the father’s age This is false. The propagation of genes in a population is based on the n…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 07:23 PM
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Sneeches. A dr seuss book where the society arbitrarily creates hierarchies based on different characteristics that are meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 07:14 PM
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That’s something I’m jealous men have, objective measures for their attractiveness and a Women have strong subjective measures based on the men they can secure for commitment. It's not as easy as saying "i am 6f3 and 15% bf making six figs and have a masters so i know i wont have trouble with casual encounters" but it IS as easy as saying "my bf is 6f3 and 15% bf making six figs and has a masters" Your attractiveness is related to his. guarantee that sexual attractiveness will correlate with rel…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:47 PM
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No, crystallized intelligence peaks in the 40s and fluid intelligence peaks around 25 when the frontal lobe is developed. Education and maturity generally improve with age. There are exceptions, of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:42 PM
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What? The quicker new people are reproduced the quicker genes propagate and the quicker evolutionary pressure is exerted. On a societal level, 100 million babies born every 15 years is a quicker gene turnover than 100 million babies born every... Whats average age now? 28? 28 years
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:36 PM
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Depends on who's perspective you take. From a societal/ animalistic perspective it may be more efficient to have some teenagers die if our genes can propagate quicker. Morally we have decided that's not good. And i agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:23 PM
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Early man would be attracted to a women who had a body capable of carry a baby (fully grown breasts for feeding, birthing hips ect) and would impregnate her. And as OP has said - mens attraction reflects that. I agree with this, but the point is that happens at very different ages, based on culture, childhood nutrition, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:15 PM
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Yeah. Quality as well as quantity is abysmal now
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:14 PM
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but the tape measure and the bank account don’t lie! Very true. That's why I'm able to be objective about my own attractiveness as well. That's pretty much how men are able to; that and past sexual success. And most women don’t have a high enough sex drive to care. It’d be like an intimate non sexual partnership, like two asexuals in a relationship. This is LARPing. Most women do not do this. You know that. Cmon.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:01 PM
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Okay, i agree. All im saying is dimorphic species have a biological imperative to impregnate the female when the female is capable of reproduction. I made no judgements or analysis statements on when that capability arises or why the capability has begun to arise sooner. I've heard it's due to more soy in the food/estrogen in food?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:59 PM
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When women are objective about their level, they stay single or go for other women. Well that's their prerogative. But most women aren't bi enough to actually date another woman. Women also often delude themselves in to thinking their bf is hotter than he actually is; part of what TRPs call branch swinging is girls removing rose colored glasses from a looksmatch guy, and then they feel disgusted and self loathing. Few people have life long happy monogamous LTRs, i wish you luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:57 PM
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Women want monogamous relationships with hot guys, but hot guys are too rare Exactly, and this is why women get pumped and dumped. Only hot women get monogamy with hot guys. Women need to be more objective about their own level of attractiveness. Most men are forced in to objectivity based on their sexual success. Most women think their sexual success makes them more attractive than they are. I have a happy monogamous relationship with a hot woman so it's irrelevant to me, I'm talking on a socie…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:53 PM
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doesn't make biological sense to impregnate a girl when there's a low chance of her birthing a baby It makes biological sense for a male to impregnate a fertile female, full stop. Not even relating to humans. Just in general in sexual dimorphic species.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:51 PM
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Most guys do. I can't stand really any animated cartoons even south park or family guy tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:50 PM
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or else stay single and not used for sex/heartbroken. The reason women are used for sex is because they do not lower their standards to an equitable level. There's nothing wrong with having personally high standards, but the natural result is many broken hearted average women and many sexless men. Possible that pickier men would lead to women with lower standards, but I'll believe it when i see it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:48 PM
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Preselection is a litmus test or a proxy for the existence of those good genes. Exactly why women cause monogamy to be rare and are reducing it on a societal level
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:46 PM
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Then we'd find some other reason... Sneeches
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:41 PM
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This is a great answer. Too bad it's never gonna happen
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:40 PM
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Sure i agree with that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:39 PM
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Meh i dont care that much then lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:39 PM
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Can you link? Mustve missed that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:33 PM
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? 10 years is a significant difference in maturity, education, competence, even intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:32 PM
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Yes except most men are NOT watching that weird shit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:31 PM
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Girls aren't meant to reproduce when they start their periods, they are meant to reproduce when they can successfully carry a baby to term. How do you define "meant" By biology, it's simply when it's possible. By morality and ethics, we've determined even a fully mature 17 year old and 364 days is still a child. I think it's very reasonable to abide by societal norms in this case because the line HAS to be drawn somewhere. However, you can't say there's a time "after periods but before a teen is…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:30 PM
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Most western birthrates are declining. But That's because replacement rate is like 2.6. In Africa and eastern europe before the collapse of the USSR the woman had to have like 9 babies to ensure like 4 of them would survive and take care of her in her old age. Now, there's plenty of your MGTOW and WGTOW and fewer "Mormon type" families. Birthrate in the US is i think 1.9 or 2.0 right now?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:27 PM
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You mean that movie where a woman has a short intense romance with a Chad You mean a short intense romance with an attractive deadbeat? Chad =/= decaprio in that movie
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:21 PM
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I wonder if there has been a trend over time for men to be less dominant in the bedroom, Probably not. Even if women are less likely to be dominant than men are to be submissive, that still leaves a vast majority of dominant men and submissive women. With that said most healthy sexual relationships prioritize the woman as much as the man. If you're in a sexual relationship where the guy isn't getting you off, leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:16 PM
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That's what im saying😂 your characteristics dont make you seem it But yeah no go on sniper fists profile
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:09 PM
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Oh shit you're ethnic?? I assumed you were white as me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:53 PM
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LMAO true but then you'll have psychos after you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:52 PM
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You think there is a current societal expectation to start a family unit (at least getting married) by late 20s? I mean, maybe from Tradcons on Reddit; most people are all about "muh women careerists" and don't realize they're going to rush the dating game when baby fever hits in the 30s. I agree. People need to have their own goals and self fulfillment. However I disagree that "men who built their finances up over their 20s are equally as damaged as women who built up their N count over their 2…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:21 PM
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I think you misunderstand, I'm saying that narcissists are more confident and THAT's why they are more attractive to women, not because of any inherent attraction to narcissistic behavior other than confidence. Therefore any confident extrovert can be as attractive as a narcissist, if they have equal amounts of confidence. They are mutually exclusive because talking about an anecdote can by definition never prove causality And nah. Narcissism has hurt me a lot more than it has helped me in the b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:16 PM
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I disagree that finding her unattractive is having sky high standards. I DO actually have sky high standards, lol. But this ain't it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:14 PM
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Thats true, it is often a nerdy appreciation for like Elon Musk or whatever. With that said the line between utility and pure peacocking is blurred i think. Most things have some utility and some peacocking ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:11 PM
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I'd be willing to bet that people in liberal states aren't getting married as much, so if a long-term relationship ends in those cases you aren't going to be hearing about it if the studies are only looking at marriage & divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:10 PM
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Mehhh, Idk, there is a lot more pressure on the single moms themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:08 PM
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Lol i didnt say you fake anything, just that you shouldn't cry on your gfs shoulder
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 03:58 PM
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Yeah i just feel like directly asking that is risky to where you might get fed a line of bullshit esp when it comes to the ex thing. You can find these things out.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 03:56 PM
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But yeah idk if dick size matters that much. By the time your dick is out she's gonna fuck you anyways unless you got a micropeen Exactly. I'd choose height over dick any day of the week. And lol you prolly have average girth too, porn dicks are so body dysmorphic inducing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 03:55 PM
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Lol. Im bored. Shits locked down again bro
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 03:54 PM
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Ah maybe i guess lol i have no clue. And lol I was surprised that i was big - i thought i was average. Watching porn made me feel small even. And ofc lying about sizes like "ohhh i have a foot long dick" lol nah its actually 8 inches. So basically i thought i was pretty average when in reality I'm fairly above average. Sometimes i feel bad about genetic things i have that others don't like that (and height), but luckily i don't think dicksize really matters as long as you're functional (like 4in…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:24 AM
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Business is not worthless and there are other majors which focus on a specific career such as nursing, agriculture, forestry, etc. I agree with the general point tho (i.e. dont do gender studies or english lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:16 AM
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Yet women who are loaded with debt are acceptable To fuckin whom!?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:15 AM
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they were socialized not to recognize that it's bad. Usually because they have literally never experienced what a good relationship does look like. That is really sad but oh so true. The friends of mine in bad relationships had either them or their SO have horrifically bad family lives or past relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:11 AM
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Well, yes, that's a given
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:10 AM
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Women do cheat more than men ages 18-24 but it's like 13% to 12%. It's not a huge gap. Aholes will be aholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:09 AM
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your best bet is to buy while the merchandise is still valuable instead of trying to play a game you know you can’t win. Great point. I'm a reasonably attractive man but certainly not chris hemsworth, and i have taken this route. I understand and acknowledge that although i was able to get casual sex reasonably frequently when i was in the game in college, that I am more fulfilled from a LTR and from sex in that LTR, and interactions with my gf. We're both young 20s and met at 22. If all goes we…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:07 AM
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those women who didn't manage to find a partner who's marriage material So a successful woman by 30 in your opinion would have been married for 5 years to the love of her life with a happy family? If not - what is your definition of success?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:03 AM
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men are more likely than women to be more ok with fake attraction and fake interest as long as he is getting sex from a woman who he would not be able to attract without a financial incentive. That's so crazy to me. What's the point at that point? Why not just pay a hooker?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 10:01 AM
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Yes i am, does it make a difference for toothy bjs? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:59 AM
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Omg lol i gotta do that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:56 AM
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Most men are also terrible communicators. Most men are also usually terrible at picking up red flags hence this guy's strategy to search for them and leave if he finds them, yet be happy that he found none and be more secure in his decision if there were none
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:56 AM
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they would agree to such humiliation It's humiliating to be completely open with a prospective bf or gf? Now, to be completely fair, dude would have to show his own social media, give her his ex's number, and show his credit score. Haha. As long as he's not hypocritical i see nothing wrong with it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:55 AM
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Both dudes lived in the city (I live in NYC) and they met me for drinks one night and I always pick up the tab to show my appreciation. What did the dudes say and do? Did they raise a red flag? When you met them, did they seem like reasonable guys? What exactly are you even looking for when doing that - I'm assuming no evidence of toxicity + a decent enough person for an ex to mean she has good judgement?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:52 AM
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Read my reply to this dude i think you might have better success with the indirect method rather than direct method. Direct method may be quicker, but less successful imo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:50 AM
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triggers a background check. I need the following; Credit report Bank statements including 401k and IRA All your social media handles Contact information for your most recent monogamous relationship. Dude i basically do the same! It's crazy how similar our stats are too except you have 5% lower BF and 25 lbs more muscle 😭 gotta stay lean for muay thai but sometimes i wish i was yolked The difference in my approach- Instead of killing the vibe by asking for a background check directly, I'll gathe…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:48 AM
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people who picked up religion as a way to fantasize about violence against minorities Lmao what, Thats not a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:38 AM
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You think there's societal pressure for old dudes to settle down? Why's that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:37 AM
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Disagree. It does indicate a lower divorce rate - if you're serious about a relationship you get married either way. But in the South if you're lukewarm on it a lot of social pressure to get married regardless of gender honestly. So those lukewarm marriages fail more often even tho the strong ones are staying together. In the West and NE, lukewarm couples just simply stay bf and gf
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:37 AM
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I think you're mostly right but also men peacock unrelated to women. Gay men often wear better outfits than straight men. Asexual men still drive Lamborghinis. While most consumption is due to female competition and then male competition over female attention, it's not all of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:32 AM
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Irrelevant to the proving of TRP ideas successful or unsuccessful
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:28 AM
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found extraverted narcissists as more attractive than regular extroverts. Source on that? Also wondering if that's just confidence vs nonconfident extroverts. Although I'd assume extroverts are more confident than introverts, narcissistic extroverts might be even MORE confident due to skewed self worth. Anecdotally, it's definitely a causal This is an oxymoron. How can you say anecdotally it is causal lol. I'm open to the idea that girls love dark triad traits but i also need to see some causal …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:28 AM
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Yea well if you don't wanna get ostracised sometimes you gotta go passively in to the situation. I was and am more careful with my friends and their friends than any randos. And It's hard for me lol. I'm so disagreeable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:24 AM
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Dan Bilzerian is a fraud too though He's a super fraud, but that's besides the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:22 AM
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But these guys don't seem very successful. None of them seem to be consistently spinning 20 years old plates How would you know that for real? It seems like you're trying to make the point that they are low success because trp ideas do not work. I will make the argument that it very well may be possible TRP ideas do not work (or, more likely, work on a very specific subset of damaged women w low self esteem). Yet even if they don't, TRP gurus "seeming not" to have success is no evidence for it n…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:22 AM
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It shouldn’t be. That's besides the point. it is the case that women will be less attracted to you if you project emotionality
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:18 AM
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Sorry? How is being pragmatic about womens interpretations of a man's emotional outbursts scarcity mentality?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:17 AM
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Nah. You're just having selection bias because you're only selecting for damaged girls lmao. Every girl I've ever hooked up with or dated (18) , who I've talked to this about? Only two said they had exes like that. Violent, bad boy, etc. I'm kind of like that as an mma fighter but i don't give off that persona so it kind of balances out. Anyways I'd somehow slip exes in to the convo and just pretend to be an impartial supportive listener, as she spilled the beans. And 2/18 were damaged. 95%? No.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:17 AM
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I honestly kind of disagree i find something about her face very off putting, there's a girl in my MBA cohort that kind of looks like her I'm trying to think of how to describe... It's just like squished and flattened features kinda?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:13 AM
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LMAO i can see that
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:12 AM
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Lmao fr. I would eat out longtime fwbs, and girlfriends. NEVER a hookup. That's just asking for STDs. And I didn't ever expect a hookup to blow me although they usually did. Except i hate bjs mainly. I'm a little larger than average and i have had literally only 2 girls in my life not scrape my shaft when they suck dick. The first time i ever got a bj it legitimately hurt me. So yeah I'm not a huge proponent of oral lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:12 AM
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See that's a bit of a different mindset than most, as most women and men date casually until they find something serious even if looking for something serious. And there's nothing wrong with your perspective (not wanting casual and wanting serious off the bat), but i do think it should be pre-stated that you're looking for something serious and also not be weird about it by talking about a future you see with the guy together. I personally finished doing the casual sex thing two years and change…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:10 AM
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Ah right i gotcha. The vetting stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:06 AM
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Interesting lol. She got turned off by fishing. That's fascinating lmao But yeah yeah same like i was casually dating this one girl and i was at a party with her and my other friend and her friend, and were really drunk and my friend busted out a pack of cigs so i smoked a couple and she wigged out, i don't do any nicotine unless I'm really drunk but she had like an innate hatred of it lol i haven't done nicotine except vapes occasionally since but it was interesting how much of a reaction she h…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 09:06 AM
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How so? This is a twisted opinion lol. If guy wants compatible girl, and girl wants compatible guy. But guy wants to make sure girl is compatible before committing. And then girl asks for or assumes commitment very early in the relationship. Guy correctly assumes that they are not compatible. Girl may have been compatible IF she had not overplayed her position. But guys simply don't want to commit before being sure of compatibility. I don't. I didn't. This is simply a failure on the girl's part.…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:17 AM
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Grossssss lol. I love eating my girl out because i want her to be pleased. I dont give a FUCK about a hookup LOL
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:14 AM
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vowed to never go down on a woman I’m not in a committed relationship with That should be every one's policy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:13 AM
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M23: i give my gf oral if i cum before her during sex, which happens probably once every 5-10 times. Happens more if drunk. I like giving oral, she likes sex better
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:12 AM
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not only does her fuckbuddy not want to date her but he literally won't be seen in public with her, lmao Ethnic attractive dudes are often the most savage lol. See sniper_fist on insta
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:06 AM
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Hogue is def attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:04 AM
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Ginger guy is cute, seems short though. Basketball player is basketball player lol. Status often outweighs looks
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:04 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:03 AM
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The guys you posted are nothing special either Christian Hogue is hot af lol what are you smoking
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:02 AM
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Yeeesh. Thats very niche for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:01 AM
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Lol tbf at least people can overcome the expectations they set
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 06:01 AM
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I hate to say it but i thought the danish girl was disgusting looking with her squished face. The other ones incl hiker boy's are cute for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:59 AM
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Hogues exgf is more attractive than the danish chick tho. That said both guys, especially bateman, are more attractive than the danish guy E: Omg eww that guy in the hiking photo has horribly gyno!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:57 AM
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That's... That's the point? When you date you want to maximize compatibility... If you're turning away compatible people with your weirdo over forwardness and immediate commitment expectations? You're failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:56 AM
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Ehhhhh While true just be hot is damn good advice, i also agree with rainbowcat.. When i went to college in the south i got totally turned off by severe accents. I would fuck but never date a girl with a prominent accent. Then, lots of girls turned me down because I dressed like someone not from the south. Aka i didn't wear vineyard vines and comfort colors, (until i realized that was the problem and bought some LOL). Cultural differences do make an impact on the SMP. Not to discount "just be ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:53 AM
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Then why do over 90% of men get married at some pt in their lives? The middle men may not get tons of sex but they get a partner, at least
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:36 AM
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What? I mean, yeah, you'd scare off all the window shoppers but you'd also turn away some people who legit are interested in a LTR but want to make sure you're compatible with them. It's like TRPs who turn away blanket any high N girl - yes, you're reducing the chances of being cheated on, but you're also increasing the likelihood you turn away many good people.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:35 AM
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Condone? Certainly not. Understand? Empathize with? Yes. Jesse from breaking bad is a decent example.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:33 AM
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Interesting. I wish i had access to the study to further explore their methodology
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:24 AM
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It's a bad analogy. Chill.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:23 AM
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No he has fangirls because of his abs and 6'2 height, as well as his unique but attractive-to-some visage. That said, I do agree that he'd just be an evil character without any redeeming qualities.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:22 AM
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Take what you can when not infringing upon autonomy of other people
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:21 AM
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Luckily for guys it's ridiculously easy to change your expressive behavior from agreeable to disagreeable. It's harder for me to change from disagreeable to agreeable. I am naturally 2nd percentile in agreeableness big 5 trait. That serves me well in casual sex escapades, and somewhat well in the LTR game, but serves me horribly in the business world. I have to physically prevent myself from chiming in too often with a counterpoint or argument. I'd rather be naturally agreeable. At least then i …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:17 AM
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I am neither a TRP nor a bloop and nice guy OFTEN DOES MEAN doormat. Man with a few nice traits is different than nice guy. Nice guy implies that being a central characteristic.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:15 AM
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Ahh, the conflation of 'nice guy' with 'doormat'. But... Nice guys generally are doormats. The stereotypical sweet boy who holds the door and brings his gf flowers every week.... Is also the poor boy who gets comfortable and quits going to the gym, gets passed over for a promotion, and then gets dumped.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:14 AM
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Except that the studies find them to be more sexually successful compared to the regular dudes even when controlling for attractiveness. Right, there is a correlation. I wish someone would try to find a causal relationship tho. Are women attracted to dark triad people? Or are dark triad people simply more confident, forward, and narcissistically obsessed with physical fitness to be more attractive than the average couch schlub?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:12 AM
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who is blatantly disrespectful to others with disregard for anything but his pleasure. The only girls who actually do try to "fix" these damaged men are other damaged girls. It's sad because damaged men, TRP and damaged women, FDS, always end up together.... Even if they profess their hatred of eachother
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:10 AM
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Studies have shown women go for men because of their dark triad traits, not despite them I would love to see this study that proves a causal relationship rather than just a correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:08 AM
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Great point about Vlad. Men fetishize him as the paragon of masculinity. My best friend from college just about jizzed his pants when he saw the picture of putin shirtless on a horse holding a gun.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:03 AM
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There is no virtue to being attracted to an anti-hero in the real world I 100% utterly disagree. There is something tragically heroic about a person going all-in on some thing they believe in, even if it's objectively horrible on the outside. If that person is also attractive, you can see how someone (either gender) might be attracted to the drive, motivation, and supposed moral code As Chael P Sonnen the West Linn Gangster says: the heel has to have a moral code, and then he will be respected. …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 05:02 AM
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What an interesting article. Thanks for sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:59 AM
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Gotcha. That falls a fair bit beyond neurotic imo. That's like legit obsessive compulsive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:51 AM
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It's a good vetting strategy to talk about commitment too early? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:49 AM
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That's a good point. Looks arent that different from 26 to 34... Some people might even improve... But motivations are a fucking WORLD apart
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 04:48 AM
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But the ratio of men to women in the tech industry is basically 50-1. Unless you are the top 2%, you are fucked. Lol don't fucking date tech women!! Go on tinder or to the club. Jeez. Tech womem are wack
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 03:06 AM
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Yeah thats true. And i used to do hookups so i agree that's a scary position to be in. Nah i quit casual sex after a couple years and found a LTR I'm happy in. I still wouldnt want to have a baby... Yet
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 03:04 AM
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Scared off is a strong statement, more like "he doesn't want to commit to a 32 year old woman 4 dates in, and she's talking about what color the flowers at the wedding should be?" I mean cmon. If you want to vet people and they are overeager to get you to commit, that's not being scared off, that's simply being pragmatic and realizing that person is NOT compatible with you
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 03:02 AM
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Also, think of who is going to be having a man’s child? What if she isn’t responsible and makes bad choices. A terrible worry if she ends up having custody. True but by that point its too late
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 01:28 AM
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The lack of gagreflex, being very limber, willing to do anything, etc. are not something I value higher than integrity, honesty and compassion Preach👌💪
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 01:26 AM
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in sussing out that you don’t want to commit to them, ???? Or he wants to vet them a bit more by dating and spending more time with them before committing. What a shocker
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 01:25 AM
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flighty and finicky (neurotic is probably the better word for it, but that seems unfair to say). Finicky and neurotic are very different fwiw. I'm neurotic but also very committed to things. What behaviors are you describing in particular?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 01:22 AM
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I tried it, got bored, and have sworn it off (before being in LTR)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 01:20 AM
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I'm guessing it gets easier for 30's men who take care of themselves because most other 30's men don't, so your competiton is lower than it was back in your 20's. This. Also career built up
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 01:19 AM
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Honestly i fear a missed period not for the wallet, but because I'm not ready to be a dad yet. I have the financial capacity to raise a child. Currently i do not have the maturity or emotional capacity to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 01:16 AM
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Most dudes who dont see it coming still arent weirdos lol Anyone behaving like that deserves nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 01:01 AM
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What do you mean by "The issue might partly be how"? You mean like, the logistics of the sex? I mean i feel like a lot of communication is needed in your situation. You should absolutely express to him how much this situation is making you feel unwanted, and that you really want him. And ah, wow thats funny! But that's surprising he cant find an accounting or finance job, those are definitely good career choices. And nice, yeah. It's a clusterfuck getting shit accepted. I think my paper is reall…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/20 12:05 AM
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You know the difference.. It is more appropriate for a man to get angry. It is more appropriate for a woman to get sad. It is more appropriate for a man to get very animated. It is more appropriate for a woman to be diplomatic. You might say, this is an archaic gender role thing, and I might agree, but it's still inappropriate socially for a man to cry, especially in front of a woman, and especially if it is not for a really important thing like a death or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:55 PM
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Meh. It does depend on the girl, but it also depends on the man. If most men wait to date a girl who they can cry on their shoulder with, the man will be waiting....forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:52 PM
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Oh he is in finance? So he was doing contract work then? I have a few friends in the finance industry from college, what general area is he located? I can possibly get him a job if he becomes desperate, if it's in the south that he's looking? Just a thought. And I gotcha. That makes sense. That's rather depressing that he doesn't compliment you anymore. Every time my gf walks by I grab her ass. Has he said he isnt attracted to you anymore? Or have you discussed it? That's why I suggested getting…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 11:45 PM
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ugh ill look lol. It was a FDSer that posted it but it was an actual NIH study.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 10:33 PM
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Gotcha. Lots of people in that situation due to COVID, so nothing really abnormal or wrong about losing your job when 25 million Americans did as well. Small business owner? Shit. That's even worse. My condolences. Is he going to try to open a second one? And yeah, sounds like he needs to work on himself... So if he just initiated more you would be satisfied with your sexlife then? I.e. if he initiated every friday and saturday evenings you would be much happier? Have you communicated that to hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 10:12 PM
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I am pretty sure actually there was research showing that dominant men in life are more likely to fetishize/desire dominant women in the bedroom and home life. With that said, the number is still low; most men desire women who are less dominant than the man. So i do agree with the general point that more dominant women are going to minimize the number of men who desire them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 10:07 PM
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Sorry, what? I don't have scarcity mentality. I have a gf i love and respect but am well aware that if my relationship fell through i could go back to boozing and clubbing and find plenty of average girls who want a turn. I'm bored of that though. It's meaningless and repetitive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 09:54 PM
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Thanks. You as well. Gotcha so 7 years. Yeah i can understand the comfort that develops and lack of desire, especially if neither party is focusing on physical fitness (which is ok, you know, career and academic goals are valid, just not libido-inducing). However there is one thing you can absolutely do that will not take any more money or time - consume fewer calories. Doesn't matter how shit you eat or cheap you eat as long as you eat below maintenance. When i lost weight i did that until i go…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 09:51 PM
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KEEP IT LOCKED UP IN YOUR FLOYD MAYWEATHER COLLECTION 😭😭😭😂 And haha yeah, well, when i took her to my dads house to spend the night the first time I had accidentally left my vanguard ETF page book marked on my computer and she clicked on it and saw that i have multiple 100ks at age 23 soooo 😂😂 little does she know like half of it will go to MBA tuition before 2022 😂 Luckily we'd been dating a good 6mo before that. But yeah no she makes (depending on shifts) 2 to 3x median wage AND has enthusiast…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/20 09:31 PM
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