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Halfway up the thigh isn't particularly short for shorts, certainly not obscene to any degree, and the midriff area is arguably not sexualised by exposure, from how vehemently you put this and how draconian your standards of modesty are you sound like some flavour of extreme conservative or an intensely religious person, your standards are out of step with current social mores and a liberal society, perhaps Saudi Arabia is more your speed?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 01:57 PM

you're really outing yourself as being in that category lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 07:49 AM

then you're in the demographic of the userbase that takes it seriously, which I covered in my comment lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 07:48 AM
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like I said though, there's definitely genuine posters, but they're disturbed individuals who are incredibly bitter, and who don't actually interact with men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:19 AM
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FDS is a LARP, I'm continually surprised that people keep getting baited by that subreddit, nothing in that place is actually genuine; a lot of the posts are people having fun with making up the most inflammatory and horrible shit they can imagine, and the people who are serious about the insane shit they're posting aren't normal well-adjusted people, they're delusional and bitter, none of them are actually dating or sleeping with "high value men" or any men, they don't go out they stay at home …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:34 AM
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If you're romantically and/or sexually unsuccessful as a man, you're definitely seen as a loser or that there's clearly something wrong with you, it's like 80% of our societal worth, possibly more. One of the things I was shocked to realise was how much my social value was based on being in a relationship with a woman when my LTR ended, and I only noticed it when I lost it, especially when you're over 25, you're seen as a bit of a social pariah if you can't get women and especially if none will …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:28 AM
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I think this particular issue is much more down to it becoming increasingly more unrealistic to "settle down" from purely an economic standpoint, children are extremely expensive to raise for 18 years, the cost of a child rises consistently from birth until they finish high school, wages have been either stagnant or even going backwards, in real dollar terms, for the last two decades at least, we've lived and are living through a seemingly unending parade of "unprecedented events" Housing is a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:23 AM
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They are, though, just not for romance
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:08 AM
13

that awkward moment when you realise you're too old for this subreddit because it's full of under 21s
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:16 PM
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in this thread she says '3 inches' but I bet he's average or just slightly below. Apart from anything else, this baseline assumption that because it's a woman saying this, she's lying or couldn't possibly be correct, is so telling of the world-view of so many guys on here. Also three inches erect is pretty small, thats well below the statistical average, just like how seven inches and up is far above it, and ten inches and up is so rare that it's basically a statistical anomaly. There simply are…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 11:13 PM
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I think poly can definitely work for people, but my personal opinion is that a relationship has to start poly or ENM, you can't bring it in later, that's a recipe for disaster. I also think three is the worst number for that sort of thing, it creates an opportunity for a really bad dynamic that will usually turn into two of the three coupling up and the third left out. If I met someone who was ENM/poly I wouldn't write them off honestly, but I'd prefer not to be the primary partner. It'd definit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 03:18 AM
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you just listed off four opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:39 PM
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I’ve seen model level attractive guys get brushed off by women eye fucking them, and no it had nothing to do with their approach. lmao when have you seen this happen and known the exact situation, and multiple times at that?this is one of those made up "examples"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/22 05:37 PM
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This is pretty ridiculous, I've got platonic women friends and there's zero romantic or sexual attraction there for either parties, this is, weirdly, the norm for friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 01:18 PM
1

exactly, it's just different experiences, and we all just sort of assume that our own experiences are the norm, so we don't always understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 09:51 AM
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They may experience long periods of loneliness of several years. When a woman has an interest in them, it’s quite an event in their life. They do not have luxury of choosing between several women. this is well put, and I think this is part of the disconnect between men and women talking about dating, I've got women friends, and we talk about our respective dating experiences etc, and they do quite well, and don't really get why I'm not doing nearly as well (I have extremely limited success in ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/22 06:50 AM
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no this exact scenario where they find a sex tape or whatever the fuck isn't realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 07:24 AM
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I don't think videos would play on a car stereo though, this sounds like a lie tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:29 AM
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You know that scenario only exists in the fevered imaginations of TRP obsessives, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/22 06:27 AM
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I didn't ask tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 07:11 PM
9

supporting your partner is a pretty common thing if they're studying fulltime or something, thats not a sugar daddy scenario by any reasonable definition, they didn't get a partner to reimburse them financially for a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:40 PM
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Which policies?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:06 PM
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this is some of the dumbest stuff I've seen on this sub, and that's really saying something, academia isn't like this absurd conservative fever dream of "commie eggheads pushing crazy socialism" you think it is. Academics are focused on their own work, and securing funding. Not fomenting a socialist takeover.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:04 PM
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that's not really the same thing though, I think that might be a tongue in cheek thing
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 06:00 PM
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I think it's pretty negligible, most people aren't going to rent themselves out for a designer bag or a weekend in hawaii or cash gifts or whatever else these arrangements entail
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/22 05:59 PM
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if one person is "dating" they're engaged in the activity of going on dates, if two people are "dating" then they're dating each other, subtle but meaningful distinction.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 10:12 AM
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no, no, they were quite specific, they said "dating" which means "in a relationship". No I think the goalposts are staying where they are this time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:53 AM
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[citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/22 07:51 AM
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You really think that's most women? Juggling three boyfriends, and not sleeping with one of them just to be horrible?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 09:31 PM
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"NOOOOOO AAAAAAHHHH HOW CAN SHE GO ON OTHER DATES AFTER ONE DATE WITH ME" lmao Seriously though how unhinged are you to think this? I've had multiple dates lined up with different women before, and Id always assumed they were doing that too, a first date is checking each other out initially, it's not "seeing each other" at all, its one date, if you're expecting them to fall in love with you off a first date and give exclusivity immediately you'll be an unhappy man for the foreseeable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/22 09:27 PM
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"its overblown because it annoys me that women say it, because misandry!" is your entire argument, and it doesn't stand up to scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/22 06:34 PM
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thats still not 1% holy shit it's the same 90%
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/22 03:20 AM
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you said 90% either don't want you, or you don't want them, that'd leave 10% not 1% where are you getting 10% of 10% from
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 07:06 PM
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The president of the Chess Club isn’t going to land the Head Cheerleader what is this, Grease?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 05:46 PM
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90% of women aren't attracted to me; I am not attracted to 90% of them. That leaves 1%. 10% surely
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/22 05:44 PM
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They seem impossible to debunk, but that's almost entirely because its effectively impossible to accurately "debunk" all these cobbled together "theories" and esoteric, highly emotive sayings and justifications, because TRP etc aren't actually based on anything coherent or data-driven, which is ironic because these statements rely on alleged studies, or research devoid of context to "prove" what they're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:29 AM
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if they're going to college, then that is literally part of planning for a future. Also, if going to the gym is a hobby, then playing video games is definitely a hobby, likewise with reading. And this seems weirdly specific, I hope they read this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 11:20 AM
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Zelensky isn't "toxicly masculine" though; he's a dad and husband who's nice to his mum and dad, he dances, even! Women are thirsting over him because he's good-looking, has a gravelly voice, is in pretty good shape, and looks good in army t shirts; that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/22 05:04 AM
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I think matchmaking is just a weird, outmoded industry that hardly anyone uses. I'm surprised it's still even a thing, honestly. It's basically a low-tech dating app where there's a more or less useless intermediary doing the legwork.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/22 11:14 PM
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"HELP HE'S NOT 6 FOOT TALL AND A MODEL OH MY GOD" lmao the scenario you describe is absurd, you've never tried this have you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 08:23 AM
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while marriage pairings still happen 1:1 which is the literal opposite of polygamy, then. Also, this "top 20%" figure is ludicrous and not based on anything. I've had sex and I'm definitely not in the top percentage of attractiveness; billions of average looking men have sex regularly every year, the fact it's much easier for very attractive people to have sex isn't some injustice, its just obvious that attractive people are very desirable. the alternative is a return to a shame based culture ah…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/22 08:21 AM
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Never said it worked better than dating apps, only that you won't be immediately harangued as a monster and thrown out by security for trying, unless you do it in an unpleasant way, or are so socially maladjusted that you can't tell if they are uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 04:49 PM
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a guy is making unwanted advances yeah, unwanted advances, that's not going up to a woman and saying hello like a normal person. Nobody's getting ejected for trying to introduce themselves, this sub is awash with people who seem to have no social skills or understanding of personal interactions, and who've never actually tried to approach a woman in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 04:27 PM
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Where are you getting that data from? Approaching women cold in real life is nerve-wracking, so I think this myth of "the feminists" making it impossible because "men are labelled as creeps!" is deployed as a face saving excuse, and even if they say its creepy (which they won't, unless you're actually being unpleasant) what then? what's going to happen after they say it and walk off? You're not going to be arrested or put on a wanted poster, stop catastrophising.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:28 PM
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For one thing, the vast majority of "blue pill" people don't even consider themselves as part of an ideology and don't view everything through an ideological prism or obsessively relate everything to sex and dating, most people don't say things like "dual mating strategy" or "the wall" or "SMV". So it's for most people quite difficult to "refute the redpill" when some chronically online angry guy spouts this extremely well rehearsed spiel, laden with buzzwords they've likely never heard. For ano…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/22 03:22 PM
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There's no draft in America, why do people keep insisting they're "registered for the draft" when there hasn't been one since the 1970s, the US government would have to reintroduce a draft via legislation
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/22 10:02 PM
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But it doesn't have any bearing on your interaction with them, what are you gonna do, complain about it to them? Will that make them suddenly change their mind "oh yes now I see! your rational demand for following some abstract rule has made me desperate to sleep with you"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 04:51 PM
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this metaphor doesn't equate here at all
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 04:46 PM
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I've never understood why some guys have this obsession with knowing that other guys had to wait for something as well, so it's "fair" to them, why would you care so much about how your interaction relates to their interaction with other men who you don't even know.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/22 11:55 AM
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this is one of the most "touch grass" posts I've ever seen in this sub, and that's really saying something
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 07:54 PM
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You realise I'm a man right
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/22 10:54 AM
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But then she wasn't, so she stopped texting you. And you made a point of telling us how much better you were than her and that you weren't interested in her, etc. which is leaving us all scratching our heads, wondering why it bothered you so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:20 PM
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girls you weren't interested in to begin with eventually stopped texting you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:09 PM
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The part where I lose your point is the juncture where you dismissively claim you had no interest, but then are obviously annoyed that she stopped texting you after a while, so which is it? If you weren't interested, and she was "below my SMV" why are you bothered to the point of posting on reddit about it? Is that not the optimal outcome? If I were to be uncharitable, I'd guess that you're annoyed that she wasn't desperately pursuing you even after obviously realising you weren't interested fro…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 10:07 PM
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I'm starting to think that this sub is actually full of teenagers
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 12:49 PM
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they're not repulsed by them when they're wanted pictures by someone who knows they'll be well received by the recipient, the repulsion comes from the ones that aren't wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/22 12:48 PM
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I had a far better looking girlfriend for years, I couldn't tell you exactly why either. Also you're making an insanely uninformed assessment too, how are you possibly discerning if they've got a good personality or sense of humour, prospects etcetera, just by looking at them? You sound insane. Maybe they've got a big dick, or are good in bed, or any number of things, maybe they're just a great guy? Focus less on this impotent seething about guys punching above their weight, you'll be less unhap…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 06:33 AM
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I'm not a behavioural psychologist so it'd be incredibly shallow and opinion based, I'd encourage you to look online because there's actual research on this sort of thing and it'd be much more informative.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:56 PM
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The constant infighting and bad feeling you mentioned is a clear indication, having a fragile ego usually leads someone to be highly combative to who they perceive as rivals, to the point where people take notice of it. Also have you seen these guys "do their thing" at all? Do they seem like emotionally stable, centred people? To me they do not, it's low hanging fruit but I always think back to this guy: https://youtube.com/shorts/SETJMOi52Ys?feature=share this guy doesn't scream "master of my e…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:48 PM
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because yes as you said, they're competing to market their own grifts to the same pool of idiots, trying to get that market share, and because enormous, fragile egos are rampant in those circles, so they get angry at each other, which sounds pretty "beta" to me honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 10:31 PM
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women aren't demanding dudes stay as shredded as Hollywood actors though, who look like that in a matter of months for films because they're millionaires who can be in the gym 8 hours a day and have dietitians, coaches, trainers etc. at their beck and call 24/7, plus only the finest gear to inject. And a very small percentage of men actually pursue and attain that physique in the real world. I think you think that you're in that cohort, actually, no, maybe you are, and are mad that you aren't ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 09:04 AM
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it has to happen organically like this, if someone goes to a place and "tries to befriend the staff" it's inauthentic and obvious, if you go somewhere regularly and staff end up liking you, it's because you're a genuinely good person.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:37 AM
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this is sociopath shit, new season of "You" material lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/22 05:34 AM
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because you treat it as if it's infallible and based entirely on cold hard facts and logic, when nearly all of it is highly emotive and based purely on opinion, with questionable data muddled in to support the preconceived notions of its proponents, then whenever someone disagrees they're bombarded with demands to "disprove with evidence" things that were never themselves proven with proper evidence, or are so abstract and esoteric that there's no way to "debunk" them. "Sure women might face som…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:48 PM
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for a certain type of women who like a certain type of guy this might be true, but most people never get into bar or street fights, or ever need to "fuck someone up" I've observed that trashy dudes get into regular fights, and that them winning fights is attractive pretty much only to trashy women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 05:18 PM
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Less people I think are seeing the need to get married, not because they can't find partners, but because there's no longer this social stigma of being unmarried, and because there's not really any huge benefit to being married if you're already in an LTR, it's become much more of a want than a perceived need. And I think people are marrying their partners now only because they want to, its seen as something they can do if they both want, and people like that are much less likely to get divorced…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 01:42 PM
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you keep posting this same thing, there's entire subreddits devoted to "anti porn" discussion where you could be in good company
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:08 PM
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they would at least introduce them to a girl they knew and would hype the guy up beforehand to make the girl like him better. You only think this because that's how it's portrayed in media, you're literally describing the "have you met Ted?" gag in How I Met Your Mother, the whole "wingman" thing isn't really a thing that happens irl. Also if you're a guy having no luck even meeting women, let alone dating or hooking up, begging your friends to set you up with women they know is a dangerous game…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 06:06 PM
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what you don't constantly put up photos on instagram when you do anything? get with the times shitlord, that's the demanded norm now! /s
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/22 05:57 PM
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its not triggering, it's just very abstract and strange. Also, not a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:43 AM
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then maybe they aren't very good with women, or not attractive, or any number of factors, don't listen to the dudes on here who think men magically become in demand at a certain income bracket
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:28 AM
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Jesus christ, the amount of energy going into this absurd calculation is unbelievable
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:26 AM
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you're about to read some of the most unhinged shit lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 04:46 AM
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You know that you can't just make things up to support your point, then get defensive about it and complain "it's just an example!" right? That's more than exaggeration, its just lying. Normal men aren't watching hours and hours of porn every day. Also the research that purports to show porn usage shrinking your brain, or "rewiring" your dopamine receptors is questionable at best and isn't settled. There's a reason "porn addiction" isn't recognised as an addiction medically. The causal link is b…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/22 07:13 AM
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What do you mean "refute" though? Do women engage in casual sex? yes a lot of them do, with men, who also engage in casual sex, but the ability to do that is beyond a reasonably sized percentage of men, because they're not very attractive, confident, socially apt, flirtatious etc. but who might be an ok prospect for a genuine relationship with if they aren't totally repellent. You've assigned an arbitrary value to meaningless hookups which is above actual relationships for whatever reason, becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/22 04:17 AM
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no it's funding his children, which don't stop being his responsibility after divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:44 PM
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So you're essentially advocating for forcing single income parents to make do with zero financial support from the other parent going towards the child/children which they are still the biological parent of, because for some reason they get to abrogate all responsibility? food stamps and other social programs are to assist people living in poverty, you want kids to exist on a single, below minimum wage parent's salary, and to rely on welfare to help them survive with the absolute bare minimum, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/22 06:40 PM
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i just really hate that people are saying all this “if she waits a bit to do it with you you’re automatically ugly and she’d only hook up with guys who are hotter” Yeah I don't subscribe to that either, waiting a bit is fine I think, especially if you're looking to date them for real, being in a relationship isn't negative either, but there's guys who have to get into a committed relationship to ever have sex (and this isn't incel bs, this is lived experience) and it not only drastically curtail…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:27 PM
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oh wait we've got wires crossed here a bit & it's kind of my fault, I meant it as a general term for what I'm talking about, but yeah of course if someone is saying about a particular guy that they think he's "boyfriend material" for them it's a whole other thing and not in any way negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 06:12 PM
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No I didn't, I made a whole point about it being not the best term to use for describing the kind of guy I meant, but that I didn't have a better one, I never said it only meant that, tbh I feel like you're picking at nothing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:47 PM
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thats why I said it's not a very useful descriptor
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 05:36 PM
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"boyfriend material" is a not very useful catch-all for the sort of not-immediately-desirable, vaguely eneuch-ish seeming guys where someone might think "he'd be nice for the non-physical boyfriend stuff maybe?" but who doesn't excite or entice them. I can't find a better term tbh. See your boyfriend was attractive to you physically, which is great, and not doing anything immediately isn't bad either, but there's guys who don't cause any desire in women but seem ok enough to get into a relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:55 PM
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it's not the only reason, but for some guys they can't "date around" their only route is trying desperately to get into a relationship with someone, because the "boyfriend material" stuff is all they've got to offer. It's not women's fault that there are so many guys like this either, it's just how it pans out for lots of guys, and it's not impossible to escape that zone too, it can be done but it can take changing your physique by exercise and diet, being able to project a sexual confidence, so…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 12:46 PM
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I maybe should have said "not hot enough to have casual sex with" and there's probably things that are added to that causing the "boyfriend effect" lack of genuine confidence, sexual aggressiveness (as in not putting the right energy out) I hate the "zone" terms, but they're in the "boyfriend zone" Their only hope for sex is to get into a committed relationship, which you don't want to do every time you want to have sex obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 09:25 AM
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The thing about it is really that if you're "boyfriend material" then you'll pretty much only have sex with someone if you're in a relationship with them, meaning you can't date around and have casual relationships because while you aren't too ugly to be in a relationship with, you're definitely too ugly to hook up with
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/22 03:33 AM
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this'll shock you, but they are porn
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/22 08:57 AM
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this, it's nobody's fault, because it's just how the dating world is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 06:37 PM
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If you're an attractive man on the spectrum then you'll be fine, if you're mediocre or unattractive looking then you'll struggle
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/22 12:00 PM
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having to cajole women into sex, that's my cue to leave. I've never encountered someone who interprets "turning on" as "cajoling into sex" which leads me to believe that you're being bizarrely obtuse on purpose
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 09:10 PM
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were you three months into dating them?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:48 PM
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you don't turn your partner on sexually? or are you not familiar with that term?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:47 PM
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If he's seeing someone for three months and they literally do not want to and will not have sex with him, it's beyond TRP it's basic common sense, it's a bad match.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 01:45 PM
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Nothing makes me ignore a "no" and that should be pretty universal across guys I'd hope, decent ones anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 09:38 AM
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yeah not to be an asshole, and literally speaking from experience as someone who weighs 225, its not enough to make someone look good, I'm still very fat and it's unappealing to look at.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/22 12:23 AM
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this constant framing of it as a "strategy" goes to the heart of how disconnected "redpill" is from reality, women aren't planning out this shit as a strategy "hmm yes I shall be hypergamous now it is the optimal strategic direction as dictated by my biology"
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/22 05:08 PM
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I think it's basically the same thing as lying to get anything else really, men on here will act like one is worse than the other though. And yeah, for the most part lying isn't a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 05:35 AM
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I imagine it like a 1950s gym coach or 1950s woodshop type class with strong masculine influence. what the hell do you think the 1950s were like? None of this happened the way you've imagined it in your mind, woodshop and gym weren't "how to be a true man" seminars taught by beneficent patriarchs, there were losers and "nice guys" back then too, who never got women. The advice you'd get (if you even got advice) would often include "join the priesthood". You've idealized a fictional past, feels b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/22 03:12 AM
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This isn't a conversation you've ever actually had with a real life woman, it's a strangely hostile rant based on a false premise.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/22 07:33 AM
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as a teenager I got called ugly to my face by girls more than once, it's never happened in my early twenties and hasn't happened currently in the dating scene, if anything it's now basically confined to clout chasers on social media.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 09:56 AM
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the vast majority of women haven't and will likely never do OF, even less have or will do full blown in person sex work, instagram stuff maybe much more than those, but even there its a small minority, and the whole "sugar baby" thing isn't attracting many women at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/22 06:54 AM
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FDS posters are either memeing or nuts never take anything they say in that sub seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/22 04:45 PM
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There's enough people in FDS seeking a HVM to have kept that sub in continuous and busy operation for years, with no signs of it slowing down, that should tell you everything you need to know about it. FDS members are I believe in large part made up of people posting ridiculous things as a joke, with the remainder being a lot of over 40s bitter women and a bunch of other jaded people who aren't actually in the dating market. None of the "High Value Men" they demand are interested in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/22 07:25 AM
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what a lot of men seemingly refuse to acknowledge is that so-called "bluepill" advice is given from an assumption that they're already putting in effort to improve themselves. Also what should they say? "dont try you're too ugly/short/poor"?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 12:34 AM
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Hardly their fault though is it, of course attractive people have a much easier time in pretty much every aspect of life, and nowhere more than dating and relationships. Everybody wants attractive women, because of course they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 05:11 AM
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This is important, looks only matter less if you're at least moderately attractive, and I think that a huge amount of dudes DRASTICALLY underestimate what "average" attractiveness means, because it's not the average.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 02:36 AM
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Which feminists? Where? Tiresome.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 05:42 AM
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you haven't asked any "difficult questions", you've ignored my own direct and simple questions, mentioned how your partner needs to be drunk to do certain things repeatedly to the point that it's unusual, and are now fleeing the exchange pretending you've "shut me down" Your partner doesn't withdraw her consent during sex, lose control of her body or lose consciousness (and doesn't accuse you of rape later, as you claim all these women do) so the example doesn't work in this context. You seem to…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:59 AM
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Lynching was rare too you might want to check that for veracity.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:51 AM
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"can you prove definitively this abstract thing? because inserts impossible to verify second-hand anecdote says different, checkmate!" you dudes are a nightmare to engage with, the intellectual dishonesty is unbelievable
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:50 AM
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a sufficiently drunk person "too drunk" is unconscious or highly impaired, not "oh wow I don't remember much of last night!" also it's a very disturbing implication that your partner needs to be drunk to have sex with you. And are you actually trying to argue that a drunk person can't be raped? If a person is having sex and they want to stop, or say no, drunk or sober, then the alleged prior consent doesn't matter anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 10:47 AM
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except she's assumedly not withdrawing that prior consent during sex, either. Also define "blackout drunk" too because that's not a scientific term, it's vague vernacular for "pretty-to-very drunk" because I doubt she's so hammered that she's unconscious or can't stand up or speak etc, during these encounters. sex requires constant consent holy shit of course it does.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 11:36 PM
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I even said it wasn't ethical behaviour, only that I could understand the mindset behind it somewhat, and women can do wrong, I've been in relationships where I've been treated poorly by women. And individual anecdotes, even millions of them, are still anecdotal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 11:31 PM
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citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:48 PM
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yeah but that doesn't fit the delusional redpill narrative of men living in terror of rape accusations always
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:47 PM
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citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:45 PM
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You must have no female friends I think this is extremely common with the vast majority of guys in the sub, it genuinely feels like many of them haven't interacted with a woman even platonically
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:42 PM
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You know that actual rapists get away scott free most of the time, right? Like, they never even see the inside of a courtroom, or if they do, rarely get harsh sentences (Brock Turner, etc) it's so very unlikely that a woman is going to go through the trauma and exposure by outing themselves as an alleged rape victim, going to the police, court, media coverage etc, just because they regretted drunk sex one time, it's just not a rational decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:38 PM
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except that almost never happens? Why do you act as if it's a regular occurrence? because it really isn't, and there's no data supporting that there's this avalanche of false rape accusations by regretful women, I'm sure its happened but it's not the norm, because we've got data telling us it's rather under-reporting of rape accusations, than over.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:32 PM
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except the instances of this "changed mind rape accusation" you redpillers are fucking obsessed with, are statistically very rare, vanishingly so. Also if he's similarly falling down drunk it's extremely unlikely a man is going to be up to the task in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:28 PM
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Weirdly though, having sex isn't a binding contract? What do you want, sex to be some ironclad contract where you can never withdraw consent? "I'm not enjoying this anymore can we stop?" "NO NO NO YOU CONSENTED INITIALLY YOU'RE CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGED NOW"
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 10:25 PM
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I'm a man with women friends, and they're some of my best. And this is similarly anecdotal, but I think women pick up on the intention of guys who are "being friends" who in reality just want to fuck them, really easily, and treat them shitty as a consequence, not the most ethical behaviour but somewhat understandable
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:02 PM
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The way you view friendship as some sort of lowly rung of this hierarchy you've invented is profoundly sad. All this "know your place" stuff is ridiculous and the way you put "befriending her" in quotations like that is unhinged, not everything is a zero sum game where the only goal is you getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/22 01:11 AM
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Is this really a revelation though? that pulling a hot person is difficult?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/22 09:58 PM
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doing things with every other bf except you not the original argument at all, don't move the goalposts its pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 08:42 AM
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not an argument. also stop hiding behind a throwaway account, embarrassing.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 05:53 AM

why do you tie respect exclusively to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:26 AM

Why would they be dating you if they didn't find you attractive, and more importantly why would you date someone who didn't find you attractive or want to have sex with you? Also do you realize how insane it sounds to approach the idea of sex like this? demanding they operate on some "fairness" equation? It's wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:25 AM

"No you don't UNDERSTAND! If she's had sex with other people then she HAS TO have sex with me, or it's UNFAIR!"
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:20 AM

provided that she’s held her other potential partners to the same standard. why does this idea have so much traction? why are so many dudes obsessed with what a potential partner has done with other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 02:14 AM
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this is the type of person who'd say Jason Momoa has a "dad bod" lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/22 05:06 AM
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posts like this really make me question my sanity for being a part of this sub, some of y'all are off the fucking planet
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/22 01:04 AM
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what's the end goal then? when do you get to be happy? apparently never, because you'll just keep dismissing any marker of success. And I was using that example to refute their baseless suggestion that women between 18-30 are never in long term relationships, the happiness of said relationships isn't a factor there.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 08:21 PM
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you've got such a poisoned outlook. Dating someone isn't a contractual obligation to marry them, and not getting married isn't "low energy, low investment" either, do you really wonder why you can't find someone with this attitude?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 07:52 PM
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That’s basically the same as facts! weird how you weren't annoyed at the other guy making absurd baseless claims without even personal experience to inform them, because they conform to your own biases, how hypocritical and intellectually dishonest of you. Ask them if they were each other’s first choice and how many times a week they have sex. this isn't even moving goalposts, you're playing on an entire different field, none of these points are relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 07:47 PM
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This is way too specific to not be a personal experience, I can't believe theres this huge cohort of 40+ dudes running around with kids on multiple women. And I think a reasonable amount of men just honestly, don't want to do the whole "settling down" thing in their 20s, or even their 30s, and that there's just as many women who are doing the same thing now that the "geriatric pregnancy" medical myth has been debunked repeatedly, lots of people aren't in a rush to have kids, many don't even want…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:35 PM
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I've got a pretty big friend group, and there's three 10+ year couples who are married, two couples married with kids, two who are engaged, three 5+ year couples that live together, I was in an 8 year LTR until recently which ended amicably, so my own small sample size refutes your absurd sweeping statement. this is manosphere bullshit of the highest order, next you'll be raving about the "cock carousel" or some other inanity
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:11 PM
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because none of your points warrant debunking, because they aren't based in anything other than your opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:30 PM
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this is so true, and its refreshing to see it addressed for what it is, a toxic mindset that poisons men's outlook on women, and that its really built on self hatred and fear of humiliation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:22 PM
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you need help man.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:17 PM
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if you're asking if right now can ten year plus relationships last, then unless you've got a time machine you're not getting an answer
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/22 04:10 PM
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Male sex work is a huge industry, and there are plenty of pro-doms out there in the fetish community. And not just queer sex work, heterosexual women use the services of male escorts, strippers and OF performers in big enough numbers to sustain the industry
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 04:05 PM
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"you" as in the royal "you" not literally in reference to him, some of y'all must be young as hell in this sub because basic textual comprehension is lacking
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:43 PM
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not caring and having various preferences and desires are different things entirely (also women are usually uncomfortable about being asked this directly and are trying to mollify certain men who are asking them these questions, because they're worried about bad reactions from them). "Women lie about it mattering" To you personally? How many? And if they "didn't lie" about it as you claim they all are doing, and said they only liked men they were attracted to physically, would it please you? No …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 02:40 PM
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I hear this again and again, and it's based on this myth that men have created, which claims that women are lying about physical attraction not mattering to them at all. Do women really need to spell out that it's personality in people they also find attractive? Women are allowed to have physical attraction, lads, we all do too. If you're unattractive but a nice guy you probably aren't going to have a lot of sex, especially casual sex, because people aren't attracted to you, that's nobody's faul…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 11:01 AM
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Because getting one-off sex is easier for very conventionally attractive men, who often have misogynistic traits, because women who'll sleep with them don't want them for proper relationships, they'll have sex with them because they like how they look/think they'll be good in bed, then move on. Dating and especially long term relationships are far different. Your view is informed by your desire to have sex with women, so you're putting that as the main thing, and look no judgement here, most guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 10:44 AM
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These are excellent points, like what is she supposed to say? I've asked female friends for advice about what to do and what women like, and I've only realized recently how much pressure that must be in the moment, are they meant to actually address flaws? Nobody wants to actually hear their real flaws.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:42 AM
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Paying for sex is a dealbreaker for most people for one thing, it shouldn't be, but there's still an immense stigma around someone, especially a man, hiring a sex worker. It's also a big hit to self esteem if the only way someone can have sex is by hiring someone who doesn't find them attractive and wouldn't do it if it wasn't literally a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:31 AM
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I haven't had sexual intimacy for nearly 4 years, and I'd obviously like to be having it! But I'm not insane, I obviously don't blame women for my long drought, it's nobody's fault or some sort of vast conspiracy by women to stop me having sex, it's just the reality of not being immediately attractive enough for casual sex, my own standards being what they are, lack of effort on my part. It's nobody's fault if nobody's buying what you're selling. The division between people who have no luck with…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 07:27 AM
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