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False dichotomy like u/BaldieMonkey said. Porn is just a sexual outlet. It has different effects on different people and at different times. It fills the space that women either don't, won't, or can't fill.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 10:44 PM
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Both are valid preferences This reflex to be fair and equal in all things is self-defeating. Everything is not this Manichaean balancing act. Some people are right, some people are wrong. If the principles that require verbalized consent are to have any meaningful social good, all parties must abide. Giving women a free pass to contradict everything just because they can't handle their side of social responsibility only enables them to become more and more dysfunctional. For the general environm…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:44 PM
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Feel free to attempt a condescending comment about anti intellectualism or something, I dunno, let’s see what you got Your guard is way too up for this conversation. You should eat breakfast if you haven't. What’s that got to do with who a woman chooses to sleep with, date, and who she chooses NOT to date? A woman's sexual freedom of choice has absolutely nothing to do with society Women are the source of all living human beings. There are very few things more consequential to society than who w…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 04:33 PM
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I’m from the UK If you're in the Western Bloc, you had an American education whether you know it or not. This perception of political ideology, the fallacies that it relies on, the stereotypes, the assumptions, the precepts. They're all American. Ok then, go on, expand on your point that dating can’t be viewed through a libertarian lens What did you mean then? What are the alternatives? Human relationships cannot be reduced to just what particular individuals voluntarily agree to between themsel…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:20 PM
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My friend groups are composed of couples and women who are not interested in being part of a couple. In truth, I have flirtatious interactions fairly often, not super common but I can't act like it's foreign. What I encounter most often is just unserious flirting. Flirting is worthless from most women I've known because there is zero conviction behind it, the attraction comes and goes with their cycles and it's not strong enough for them to want anything. All it really tells me is that they enjo…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:10 PM
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That American public education really does a number on people. That's not what socialism is. And the idea that the entirety of human behavior can be reduced to a binary two-way choice is just deeply ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:03 PM
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Men are more high risk high reward seeking that's true. It's not about seeking. The determinants of men's social viability are almost entirely external. If you don't get what you need to be successful in the eyes of other people, it's a waste of finite time and resources. Lot of guys don't see a light at the end of the tunnel. The risk-seeking behavior would be to go to school anyway, not to quit before you start. But it doesn't seem logical that them picking harder education I didn't say men pi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:00 PM
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The worldview you are engaging reality through is fundamentally flawed. As are the conclusions you will come to through them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:37 PM
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You sound like a libertarian
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:32 PM
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What do you think the reason is for women graduating more than men? Lack of stigma for engaging in lower paid work. Lack of stigma in receiving certain kinds of high-debt/low career prospect degrees. More social support, more scholarships. Women mostly have to work for themselves and their own goals. There's no external litmus that decides if it was worth it except their spending habits and sense of personal accomplishment. Men can't just study anything and get paid anything and expect to be see…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:07 PM
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Give the girl who notices you a chance, abandon those who don't notice you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:53 PM
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I've thought about the idea of taking my partner's last name before too. Depending on what the name is and the relationship, I'd consider the idea. But I always opt against it in the hypothetical. Seems like something that might get used against me later in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:48 PM
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It's the one part of the arrangement of marriage that men get to feel ownership over. Not the woman themselves, but the exchange of names. I get it a little. I've never thought too hard about it since marriage is a long way off, possibly might never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 09:10 PM
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But deep down this might reflect a desire by women to be part of a mans life, Just cause it sounds poetic doesn't make it true or relevant. Women taking men's names is a relic of property relations and women fully joining the families of their husbands right down to their names. If women feel like that now, it's something separate from why the practice actually exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 08:08 PM
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I think culture is the biggest source of problems. A lot of what women are into and respond to is socialized, it comes down to how they perceive men and their place in society. So the values, attitudes, expectations women have heavily color how they view men. And what we have in the modern day is a culture that does its utmost to tear down the idea of men as something to be valued, respected, understood. The one things that's driven home to women of almost every walk of life is that men are over…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:03 PM
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Heterosexual men don't give a shit about another dude's meat. I present counterexample: 37 Dicks Classic Scene, culturally salient, evergreen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:32 PM
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It's fucked up down here.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:40 PM
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Is it really just impossible at that point, or that if I had a man and I aged into a 40 year old, he would no longer find me attractive and go hunt for a younger one? That's a very sad thought, and basically means I have an expiration date that I can't avoid changing :( Is that true to any degree? Or does the bond built help negate the aging (as long as you age well and take care of yourself)? Dating is already very hard when I am naturally Redpill and am pretty much limited to men in this lifes…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:09 PM
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Please share your thoughts on this: I don't think it's a given that women of any age look better or worse than those of another age. Maybe it's just the region I live in (the South) but I see on a regular basis just how much of a difference a healthy environment and resources can make or break people. There are homeless people in their 30s that look half dead. There are women in their 50s who are glowing. My world is bigger than whatever early 20 somethings that might dominate what you see on In…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 02:08 PM
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Of course you can. Within the limited space and time of our lives, we can set the terms for how we live.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:49 PM
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If a guy feels too threatening, you feel hyper vigilant, not aroused I see your sensible point and raise you "The Height Fetish". The sheer amount of women seeking out men that are in no way a physical match for themselves, huge, multiple heads taller than them. Men with hands bigger than their heads getting paired up with women who barely come up to their chest. The amount of women that are viscerally excited at the sight of men like this. It's everywhere, it's socially enforced, and most women…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:47 PM
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It's not about being bigger, it's about having the will to defy what is bigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:39 PM
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This isn't anywhere close to normal or accepted. Please be careful. I would always leave these relationships. Good. I am wondering how you ever got into them to begin with. Whatever those 5 men had in common, avoid those things like the plague and be careful with what you find yourself drawn to. I wanted to ask the men in this sub if you were this guy (or had a friend like this) why do they attack their partners? Is it a therpay problem? How they were raised? I noticed too that after I would end…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 05:15 AM
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Breaking it up cause I get an error if the comment is too long. Sure, she didn't beat you black-and-blue, but she made it so that you will never again trust someone the same way you trusted her. Hopefully, I'd like to take back my sense of trust from her. I'd like to get to a point where thinking about her doesn't even feel like anything. I'm getting closer to that. There are much better women in this world than her. And I try to hold on to the interactions I have with women who show that it's p…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:33 AM
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Oh, wow. I didn't expect such a validating and empathetic response on a sub like this. It's truly a breath a fresh air on here whenever people can acknowledge nuance in other people's experiences. Sorry for yapping so much. Thank you for being so understanding and patient. You're welcome and thank you too. I need a good talk more than I know. And I have no problem being patient with people worth being patient for. And we all know he's an asshole. He has a wife and children at home, makes money b…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 03:32 AM
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To not make this post drag on any longer: I can read for longer. I appreciate you actually talking to me. So I can handle a full response. It's those instances that I won't take "just choose better" for an answer. And that's fair. I usually take these conversations about sexual satisfaction as more complaints about casual hookups than anything else. Most of the women make it very clear that enjoyable sex is a requirement for a serious relationship and they're complaining about guys that obviousl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 01:15 AM
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Has your girlfriend been abused in the past? Edit: It's a question about life experiences and priorities. Women who've been through more might have a different perspective on emotions than one's with more limited experiences in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 12:07 AM
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Because most women can brute force dating until they burn out without ever feeling like it's their fault if things don't work out. Agency is outsourced to the men that fail them. For women to seek out advice, they first have to understand and admit to themselves that what they are doing is even relevant to the outcome of their dating lives. For women that do admit that, they can fall into the same spaces that men do. There are a couple Red Pill women on the sub, there's a Black Pill woman on her…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:50 PM
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Tell me, what do such empathetic and considerate partners look like? If it's something you run into a lot, you're going to have to look at your fundamental criteria. I don't know what that is. You say you've gone for men that are opposite of what I describe, which I can only guess means something that you'd consider "shy". I don't know what the means to you or the dynamics you get into. My point was more of a general one. On average, women gravitate to self-assured bluster more than self-doubt a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 11:39 PM
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Have you no shame?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:58 PM
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I just wanted to comment that I read this and the straightforward honesty is appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:46 PM
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We are not empowered to endlessly complain about every way women disappoint us. It's incredibly controversial and leads to no productive conversation. If women have a problem, men try to fix it. If men have a problem, women spit in their face and find someone else who keeps their mouth shut.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:44 PM
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He's a man recounting what women themselves say they like in a partner. Which are usually traits that arrogant, selfish men have.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:40 PM
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Most men know or would be eager to learn, women just choose the ones that don't care. When you go for "confident" self-assured men who think their shit doesn't stink, it's not a surprise when he treats you and what you feel like an afterthought. If the women with these problems chose more empathetic and considerate partners, they'd have a better time. But obviously, they're attracted to dismissive users based on the stories they're telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:35 PM
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It'd be an interesting way to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:09 PM
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Your individual desires don't have the cultural force of millions of people behind them. If the majority of women were like that, you might have been able to find your guy. What one person wants is a drop in a bucket. What most people want is a social force that can't be ignored. That doesn't mean that everyone will go along with the trend, just that more will than not. And those that don't still have to deal with the shifts in attitudes that change brings. ---- In the present time, men are pres…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:23 PM
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Sounds like a generational problem then. The young women have different tastes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:14 PM
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I got you. I think the disconnect on my end comes from the way I value my friends is usually along the same continuity as how I value my partners. They're the people I care about and want to be close to, it's just a matter of degrees and closeness. The partner is the closest of the loved ones, the one you do the most with, spend the most time with, learn the most about, eat the most with, you get me? The more familiar they become, the stronger the trust, the stronger the feelings. Eventually it …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:55 PM
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I got you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:39 PM
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Just speaking as a man to a woman. I've had attractive friends who who have all had great personalities but I just never saw them as anything more than friends It puzzles me how this isn't a 1+1 = 2 thing, especially for women that are romantically frustrated. I understand not wanting to date your friends, cause it gets complicated. I understand wanting to date people other than your friends, cause it's less complicated. But if you're not dating anybody, I don't understand why so many don't even…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:38 PM
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All relationships need a balance in emotional support That is true. But if balance is defined as whatever makes the woman involved most comfortable, then that balance is an oxymoron. From the little article, it seems to be leaning more toward that definition. I'm all for people having limits in relationships and communicating them. But the tolerance level in many women is dysfunctionally low. You cannot build a life with a person who cares as little for you as whoever this woman who wrote this i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:29 PM
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Humanity does best when it pushes beyond the call of nature, not when it submits to it entirely. If female or male nature is this base and dysfunctional, it should be weeded out by whatever means necessary. This is an awful way to live. And unstable to build anything lasting with. What works in a roving band of a 100 people who are all 3rd cousins, hunting berries, and picking mammoths does not translate to a globe spanning civilization with agriculture, industrial technology and nuclear weapons…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:48 PM
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Apathy to men is also a female gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:43 PM
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Because women are at every step along that path picking and choosing whose traits and genes get to carry over to the next generation. They don't pick self-actualized, post-masculine men who live by their own standards and codes. They pick cookie-cutter stereotypes that don't think for themselves. Women will never go where men are if they don't want to, and they don't want to, so men have to go where women are or they will have no future. Edit: Society takes two parts to work, and when women want…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:37 PM
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But men aren't adapting. No, you misunderstand. What women demand of men is not generally possible, especially on the higher end of things. Dropping out is an adaptation, it's an adaptation prioritizing self-preservation over endless toil to meet impossible goals. Demanding more from men on the whole promotes mediocrity and underachievement. If the race is too long, most won't run. The only ones who'll take the challenge are those who have advantage at the start that makes the race less daunting…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:29 PM
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Narcissists will always think that caring about other people is an exhausting waste of their time, and blame the people who need care for not spending all their energy on them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:35 PM
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Lol, if this is long-winded then I owe some people apologies. Thank you for answering. These are really straightforward and I get it in all their cases. Sometimes the answers I've gotten to that question are kind of "je ne sais quoi" adjacent. Nothing they're able to put it into words, just vibes. So I appreciate you taking the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:33 AM
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Can I ask why you didn't see anything in them? I'm not saying you should have given them a chance or anything, I've just been in their shoes before. And it's kind of hard to get a straight answer for why someone isn't attracted to you especially when they care about your feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:04 AM
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I understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:02 AM
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I didn't say it makes a difference, just that women should be prepared to have the conversation. No guarantees that it'll work out, just that it's the best way to handle it. With words, in the open.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:48 AM
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Ooh, I'm so sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:47 AM
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Did they know you for long beforehand?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:19 AM
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Sounds like you needed better friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:15 AM
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No, they should just be willing to have a calm conversation about attraction if it arises.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 03:22 AM
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And not just that, but absolute rejection of men in general. A lot of women now are convinced that men (as a category of human being) are socially superfluous. The misandry is deep and there's no putting your best foot forward with a man-hater. I honestly think the only thing that could really save the whole gender relations mess is censorship. The public visibility of these ideas makes things spread farther than they would from personal experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:42 AM
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It goes a long way with the right woman. Most women are not the right woman. I agree that way more guys need to just give talking to women a shot, but it's not the cure-all. There are deep problems with the culture today, most of these girls are not that easily engaged with. It's not just the guys that are the problem. And they cannot on their own become a solution. Girls have to meet them where they're at. And that's not what's happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:31 AM
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How about: you choose what lifestyle you want to live. Endless permission just results in people reproducing the most psychologically underdeveloped behaviors, attitudes and expectations that people are capable of. Absolute conformity is also unhealthy and socially disruptive, but for different reasons. People need a general outline of respectable behaviors so that those who can't figure things out on their own aren't flying blind, but those who are capable of making intelligent innovations can …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:27 AM
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I think this idea is what isolates men more. You are right on this though. Everything men do to get women, if it doesn't work out, just drives a wedge further between them and women. But it can't be helped. Either those men give up on a core motivation in life or they sacrifice what they have to in terms of time and energy in order to get to their goals. If women were easier to meet and impress, the whole appeal of these ideas wouldn't have traction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:08 AM
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You know full well that those cases are rare and do not involve anyone that should actually be in a relationship. I say this respectfully. Edit: As a guy, if you want a worthwhile relationship, you have to have things that women see as worthwhile. Most women aren't going to put up with a man that has nothing, looks bad, and doesn't even sound good on paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 01:04 AM
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Because norms dictate women's behavior more than anything else. If you want to be perceived as socially significant by a woman, you have to fit a mold that she is familiar with. If you want to be seen a sexually relevant, you have to fit a mold that she is attracted to. Women are attracted to archetypes, and what archetypes they're familiar with are culturally derived. You can't meet women mind to mind to convince them that you're attractive. And you can't just do your own thing and expect them …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:16 AM
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It seems like the young women these days are pressured out of the kinds of introspection that are necessary for handling moments where passion ebbs instead of flows. I think they're sold an ideal of love and passion that's kind of an endless fever dream where you're on Cloud 10 from the start till infinity. If the relationship ain't perfect, it ain't it. It's a philosophy of flying by the seat of their pants, body first, mind last, if you have to think too hard then it's a sign you're making a m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:45 PM
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I think women would be more violent
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:20 PM
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Thank you sister
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:02 PM
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Personally, I just want a woman who is decidedly into me. I don't think that means obsessed. Most women I've come across are very noncommittal, aloof, avoidant, indecisive. The ideal is a woman that gets to know me a little and goes "I like this one, I want to keep him around." And I can build from there. Nothing crazy, nothing extreme, just a solid preference for me over other men and women. But at this point, I'd take obsessed over the opposite. It'd be scary, but it'd be interesting and it'd …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:22 PM
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....Is English not your first language?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:46 AM
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Drunk people violating other people's boundaries isn't a joke, and it is also a fact of life. Get enough women drunk, and you will see some of them disrespect whatever boundaries get put in front of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:29 AM
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What the fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:25 AM
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You're very welcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:21 AM
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Well shit. (Did you ever read The Witch and the Bull by any chance, I stopped reading it around the same time)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:18 AM
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I lost my place around the time Eris crashed the party, I've been meaning to get back into it for a while, but I've heard that it fell off since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:09 AM
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This is one of those situations where the bar is actually in hell. And so many cannot clear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:08 AM
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Nah, it's a romance webcomic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:04 AM
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I'm 26, you just gotta get them drunk and they'll start breaking that rule. I think most of our social anxiety as a generation is from chronic sobriety. edit: I think some of my folksy hypothetical talk is not being understood. This is not a recommendation to get women drunk. It's an aphorism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:03 AM
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It felt fake or something. Yeah, I can definitely relate to the feeling. It really sucks dealing with people who feel that just because they want something means that it should happen. And I notice this especially with women. It's hard to find women that think of men as real people who have their own preferences for how they want to be treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 03:02 AM
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Never in my life have I ever paid for porn. For Lore Olympus, yes, but never for porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:51 AM
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Yeah, I went to a club with some friends of mine when I was like 19. It was me and two other girls. One of the girls was pre-gaming before we even went in, I was cold sober and same for the other girl. I don't remember whose idea it was to go to a club but I know it wasn't mine. It was kind of dumb of me to agree to go, but I was trying to get out of my shell, "be more social", "say yes to life". When we got there, I paid the 25 bucks to get in, they got in free. As is usual. When we got in, it …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 02:25 AM
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I assume it's a bot or a really lazy woman who isn't seriously looking for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:28 PM
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I agree. Having a standard of "don't generally be a sobbing mess who cannot regularly handle life" is a fairly low standard, for example. And I think the first step is for men to make a conscious decision not to tolerate or actively make space for emotional dysfunction from women. I've been willing in the past to do that and sadly I've had to figure that out as I got older that it doesn't really help and most people will remain in those cycles until they burn out or drive other people away.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:14 PM
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The heart of the issue is women being hypocrites. Men are bounds more willing to be gentle and considerate of their partners than women are. Most men do not expect women to be mentally well at all times, I'm not sure how a man could get through life and maintain that expectation if they did expect it. But if women on the other hand repeatedly make excuses for leaving, losing respect, losing attraction for partners, then the only solution I can see working out is mutual emotional neglect. Since w…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:55 PM
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My negative thoughts on all of these could vary between them being: I. Bots. II. Conformists who can't think for themselves. (Number 5) III. Liars putting on a palatable front because they can't be honest about what they actually want. (Number 1) IV. Unintrospective people who are putting their mental illness on display. (number 3 specifically) V. Bougie with a deeply ungrounded sense of what is normal and available. (Number 5) VI. Expect men to manage their boundaries rather than themselves. (N…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:41 PM
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Well, I can't fault you for being consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:32 PM
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So the solution is for men to be harder on women. That seems to be where things are bound to head.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:23 PM
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No, it doesn't work like that. Women being more sexually adventurous doesn't make them more sexually available. They just have less inhibitions when it comes to the relative few men they are attracted to. It's the same outcomes as it is for non-promiscuous women, just sped up without a pretense of evaluation. When guys see how automatic and knee-jerk the attraction of women can be, it creates resentment. Because those women, no matter how many men they go through, they're still not going to pay …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:54 PM
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Even sexually permissive women are too discriminate to be considered a part of anyone's supply, if they're not already sexually involved. Most women's sexuality has more of an effect on men by the behaviors they normalize among other women rather than what the women themselves do. Women model themselves after each other, pick up ideas from each other, communicate their experiences in terms other women coin. Women who are always fucking around aren't really in the interests of most men. And the m…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:48 PM
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Just cause you're in the dumps doesn't make you trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:01 PM
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Especially FA, virgin men who are the most suitable for me, since we're in the same position and all. Earlier you mentioned the word looksmatch. And now you're stratifying your dating prospects. This attempt to objectively categorize people is terrible way to look at people. The most suitable men for you are men that like and appreciate you. If you can list a thousand reasons why the lonely guys don't fit that mold, then you've gotta look elsewhere. Yeah, men can be very neurotic. That's why you…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:08 PM
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So it's okay for a man to settle for a woman but not the other way around? I know men hate this when women do it to them. Settling is a loaded term, and it means different things in different contexts. I chose my girlfriend, and I tried to treat her well while we were together. I made her my priority, I introduced her to my friends, to my family. I tried to help her in life in every way I could. I did not hide that woman. I did not cheat on that woman, never thought about it. I tried to be a goo…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:16 AM
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Men don't go for personality so it's a lot harder This is not purely true. I have definitely been in a relationship with a woman and it was carried by her personality. She had a fat ass too, but it really wasn't the drawing point. I liked that she cared about me feeling good, it seemed like she gave a damn, she was funny, she had good taste in music, and I felt like I could be myself around her. There's a comfort factor when it comes to compatibility that's not strictly about looks. I'm not goin…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 03:21 AM
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Considering 45% don't even approach women at all, as many men as you're gonna get have stopped
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:24 AM
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I'd feel like getting a cheap gift was even worse. They'd think it was both pathetic and desperate.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:21 AM
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I think men need to get more comfortable in being a source of discomfort for women, within reason. Basically, engage with women in a way that you can defend to a reasonable person. The nut-cases will continue to spread their insanity, but so long as you pay attention and go for what's compatible with you, you should be able to dodge the bullets. Women need to better manage their more dysfunctional peers. Men need to be better at managing their perceptions. When you're meeting a woman, you're set…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 08:53 PM
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I had to look up what that meant. Well I'm quite sorry that that's been your experience. I won't disrespect you by asking "Are you sure you're ugly?" but I'll admit the question is on my mind. I hope that you find someone that opens your life up to more possibilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 07:36 PM
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It's called morality. It's this ancient social technology that keeps people from hating each other. Hate leads to violence and killing. It's better for everyone to keep a lid on that stuff if they can help it. Making an ass of yourself and antagonizing people for no reason has never helped anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:50 PM
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I also wonder if part of that difference is due to male on male rape victims potentially being more likely to need medical treatment after the fact. But how much male-on-male rape happens in the civilian population? I'm not saying it doesn't happen but, gay people are less than 1% of the population. Not that you have to be gay to rape a man, not that a man has to be gay to be raped, just feels...like I'd need to see some numbers to think it's specifically about that. It doesn't seem like prisone…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:22 PM
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Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:15 PM
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What an awful way to respond to someone that's simply grateful to be treated well. Get over yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:15 PM
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And I don't suppose that they should. She very much should.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:14 PM
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Therapy doesn't work for problems that are present and ongoing. People don't leave happy relationships. If what makes your partner happy is feeling like their partner is the best they can get, then happiness is untenable. Not everyone is wired to bond with people for their own sake. The dating pool is full of noncommittal, transactional women who very much do not view men as individual people to value for their own sake. Women don't have thousands of dudes in their phones, ready to call up at an…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:11 PM
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Women also have STIs and can be bad at sex. There is no problem with casual dating that is fully unique to women and doesn't also have some protective measure you can take. Plan B, IUDs, Condoms, they sort out pregnancy. After that, the ball is in your court. Because we're all risking something by meeting strangers and giving them a chance. It's not like sex is this magical thing for men either, always fun and amazing. The let them eat cake remark is because of ignorant dismissal, the quote is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:52 PM
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Make a post with the screenshots from your app inbox. Take us through your world.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:42 PM
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that sex doesn't seem to have as a strong a power on women, Sex in the abstract doesn't have a lot of power on them. In practice, it does. But it has to be very good, and the longer it takes for them to scratch the itch, the more they'll lapse back into not caring about it. They have to be worked up into having a consistent appetite.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:40 PM
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Lol, you're welcome. I'm looking at the report. This was a notable gender divide in reporting to medical services, with men more likely than women to report this type of disclosure (13% vs 3%). This part stuck out to me. But I understand. Doctors are probably one of the least judgmental spaces that I've been in personally. Mostly because even if you did something they don't approve of, you'll still be helped. So there's less reason to hold out on medically relevant details. Few indicate their pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:57 PM
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That link just leads to a blank page. I think you might copy-pasted the link twice. I had to cut off the last half of the URL to make it work. https://newcomb.tulane.edu/sites/default/files/MeToo%202024%20Report%20_1_0.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:47 PM
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Fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:14 PM
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So I just want women to be honest and candid, and seriously working on the work of figuring Women on the whole will probably never reach this point. Some individuals already have and have for a long time, but it's not enough. Either the bottom will fall out of the whole social order and no one will be in a position to make healthy changes, cause everything will be in chaos, not just something as limited as dating. Or things will continue as they are, with women having most of the leverage and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:30 AM
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Yes, because the societal context is likewise against many women coming forth. What their families, friends, and community are like will impact them and how they go about handling those things. I know women who have been raped, and don't say anything because they go to the same church. I know some who hate their rapist with every fiber of their being and can't talk about it without being angry for the rest of the day. But likewise, never reported. My point isn't that women always report. Just th…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:07 AM
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No data on men is going to be accurate as men are heavily disincentivized from reporting anything that happens to them. Especially if it involves harassment, assault, rape. Cause you know what happens when men aren't believed? They'll think he's the one that did it instead. It's like trying to find data for illegal abortions, you have to infer from the societal context how possible it is to get accurate information. Are the people you're studying in a position to be truthful about their experien…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:49 AM
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I'm not going to act some over the top way just because I'm annoyed.... Again, I must tell you. You're missing the point because you're focused on yourself. These aren't leaps, they are experiences because there are more women in this world than you. You're really overexaggerating how much women are just going around accusing men of harassment for no reason It doesn't matter how common it is, the threat exists and men have to bear the consequences of women who don't have self control.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:32 AM
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If anything, I'd feel discouraged from giving gifts for anything except Christmas or their birthday just so I don't set an expectation for it. For a second date? I'd just assume the woman would think I'm desperate and be put off by it. This seems like one of those things that women enjoy the idea of until they're faced with a real person, giving them something that they're too awkward or unimpressed by to actually appreciate. Give them less to be disappointed by, the less disappointed they will …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:28 AM
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First. You don't have to comment on someone's body or touch them to be accused of harassment. The threshold is much lower than what you're talking about. Second. There's nothing wrong with having a problem with people you don't know commenting or approaching you, but if your strategy for handling that problem is placing restrictions on other people's behavior rather than your own, then it's best to be at least consistent. Men are not frustrated with women having boundaries. They are frustrated b…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:07 AM
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Men don't have set peaks and valleys. It's all about life circumstances, how well you keep yourself up, how much you have, how you use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 10:35 PM
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The red pill will probably get the average man divorced, once they're in a relationship. There's more dating advice for straight men outside of the Pills though. There are more grounded, but less codified, forms of thought for guys to tap into. Because you're right, that pill ideologies are likely to destroy relationships rather than build them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:27 PM
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This is Bisexual erasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 07:21 PM
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