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Yeah your looks are not your problem from your pics. We're pretty comparable in many ways, and I did overall okay with women. Thing is that was before I got bigger as well. I was very skinny. I don't know what it is and who you are, but from the way you're commenting you also seem okay as a person as well. I think what helped me by far the most was having a girl as a friend from around 14 years old. I learnt to be comfortable around women very early on thanks to that and could befriend more, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 07:09 AM
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There's no proof because there was none needed. You're on a debate forum, so expect people to follow debate etiquette.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 05:13 AM
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Once again, the person making the original claim is the one the onus is on. Any counterclaims can be easily countered by the first person citing his sources.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/24 12:10 PM
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Yeah that is wild. I've heard too much of the tape (as in couldn't finish it). Even if it was fiction that was too much, considering the reality on the other hand is soul crushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:13 PM
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Oh it's true that it is disturbing, I am just aware that he might have embellished a lot, and even one of his former psychopath gfs might be just as embellishing as he was. Surely if there were a bunch of bodies at the bottom of a nearby lake and that was quoted, at some point they would look for them. Especially if he literally helped them sink. There's just a lot to the story that I find logically unlikely, even outside of the insane cruelty that was confirmed he committed. EDIT: Note, even if…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 05:05 PM
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If it is to any help. A lot of serial killers seem to embellish their stories massively to prove how much of a "genius" they are at being serial killers. There's ~4-5 suspected cases of him committing these acts and one confirmed. Not that what he did wasn't horrible and one of the worst things you've ever heard of, but there are no victims picked up, nor does drugs to brainwash actually work, it's like a bad novel that he fantasized in his head. At least that's what I choose to believe (because…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:55 PM
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Current scientific meta-analysis consensus says that weekly volume should be 10-20 hard sets per week per muscle group. I do 15 usually. I go 0-1 RIR entirely I love everything you're saying here and couldn't be happier that we're in this conversation One big question to me is: How do you count the bench press in "Sets per muscle group", or the squat? And do you do these similarly to for instance a bicep curl in the volume range? Those sites aren't realiable because especially with pullups and p…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:37 PM
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I agree with you, kinda. Many people do not show their true colours until after their spouse is "locked down". And this can take years. This part is true for both men and women, so for any SAHM they should really get married first and keep working for a while, to make sure they're actually safe going into it. Imo if he ever is the one to initiate the "Could you be a SAHM?" conversation, she should either say no or get a bank account that she puts money into. The risk of being a stay at home part…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:56 PM
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What do you mean applying progressive overload? Like I can't add reps, or lift heavier load, despite me gaining weight. What about eating protein? Like i'm weighing food and ingesting 100-120g of protein (i don't weigh much) Yeah progressive overload is heavier load and added reps over time. The way you get there is by eating enough and making sure you do 3-12 sets for each muscle a week, probably a minimum of 6 sets if you've spent some time. I'm guessing you're also going close to failure sinc…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 03:47 PM
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I wonder what you're doing then, I would love to see how you apply progressive overload and eating protein. These two are of massive importance, I can do 14 slow pull ups after two years and that's literally smack on "intermediate lifter"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 10:20 AM
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I've worked out for about two years, gained ~7kg of muscle from a bulk (after the cut I was about 9khs higher than when I started and a visible sixpack). It's not that hard to work out and have it be visible. If you've done it with good eating and progressive overload for 8 years your genetics are oooof or you have looked too damn much at the social media drug abusers. Most guys absolutely don't do the bare minimum, probably a max of 10% hit the gym regularly, I would guess way less without goog…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/24 04:10 AM
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I returned to this forum two days ago after a few years. I am happy to see how people still add complete fabrication to your statement and then argue against it. Just now I've dealt with a guy that forgot what he actually said and made a claim that I didn't read his comment, so I had to link it to him to prove that no, he did actually say that. It's impressive how everything they say can add qualifiers and obvious lies, but anyone with the term "blue pill" anywhere near them are held to much hig…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 06:02 PM
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You'd have to still prove that the pareto principle would be able to apply to this case though. Because in this case it doesn't fit at all. What would then happen if non-monogamy became 80% of relationships and monogamy was 20%? Would suddenly 80% of the outcome be based on the monogamy? Surely then we should argue that we should let non-monogamy get to 80% so monogamy holds more power. I'm not even sure what the outcome variable would be in this case, because you didn't state it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:55 PM
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I think if people don't have the emotional connection to sex as some others do, let them do what they want. If I didn't have any emotional connection to sex (and same for my female friends) I'd be happily 69'ing every time I could lol So I guess if what you're saying is true, I would be homie munching
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:46 PM
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I think the best experience I went through was roughly knowing the signs, and then either shutting it down if I wasn't interested, or being direct about being attracted to her if I was. The only other thing is if there's friends that I knew well, then I didn't care because I know they weren't flirting. "Reading the room" is vague for a guy unfortunately, and the hints aren't as clear as we'd want. So I'd rather deal with it by asking what's up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:39 PM
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So I hate hints. I think hints are dumb. I like people being direct. I've been asked out directly, I've been the one asking out directly, and in no way do I accept hints as an acceptable form of communication from adults. People do different hints for the same things, and the same hint can mean different things for different people. Here's why I still disagree overall: You can still understand certain things as a potential of interest. Some things are more often interest: Smiling, laughing, touc…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:28 PM
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What metrics are you using to come to the conclusion that it is? In fact the first claim is that it is overly normalized. The original claim is the one that needs the evidence. The person talking back doesn't have to prove anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 05:15 PM
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Point 5. Here's a serial rapist in one He walked free for years. Despite overwhelming evidence. He's a 6 in one if it helps. It took multiple reports, multiple cases with evidence and multiple everything to get him caught. It's a 1 minute google. I'd rather not google this shit anymore because it's depressing. It's the police, not the courts, but it's still the same reality for the women. Yeah we should just bully the guy until he kill himself. Never said that. Once again, making claims. I am sa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:54 AM
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Yeah, because there's no abusers to every woman. The issue is supply, not demand. This is a ridicolous take based on no actual hard evidence. 50 shades of grey is the top selling romance book. And Gangbang porn is extremely popular among men, does that mean that most men want to watch their wife be gangbanged? You seem to be extrapolating a ton based on fiction preferences. I like a lot of fiction, but in no way do I want to live the stuff I read or watch
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:46 AM
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And? It don't make the argument any less shit. There's no point in saying that X happened in the past so we should allow people to be cornered into killing themselves in today age. Never said that. You've completely misconstrued what I said. It's pretty easy to go to a police officer and fill it, plus there's 7 billions of people anything as vague as rape can be found. It's pretty easy to find cases where rape kits prove rape (and I mean forced penetration), with DNA evidence on top of it, where…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:35 AM
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So when most women don't have abusive relationships, you would rather be listening to the anecdotal experiences you have over that? I don't see the point. Even in most abusive relationships they don't start out that way. And for relationships red flags are subjective, there are just some people more generally agree on. And even that can change between countries, some even between cities.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:28 AM
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You can definitely decrease your rates of being rejected, but that doesn't mean that you should take a rejection harshly. The point is more that being rejected and taking it too hard will just get in the way of your physical and mental health. Do the main things that will decrease your rates. Short bald dudes still get happy relationships, while we can agree they started out with a worse hand than others. And there are women whose doors will be shut to them completely, but there are women who li…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:14 AM
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Compatibility is so important. I enjoy your perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 04:01 AM
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It really doesn't. If you get rejected by a person that later proved to be someone that keeps being attracted only to abusers, does that mean you should try to become an abuser? I think women who fall for red flags are red flags themselves. Nothing to learn from them, and In no way could I ever trust them to have a healthy way to view our relationship. Not that they remotely deserve being abused, but I am not willing to go and teach someone how a healthy relationship works. This equally applies …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:52 AM
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The thing about luck though is that you have factors in your control. So you can influence your chances, even if that still means that in the end it's down to luck. This base advice for being more attractive is imo what TRP gets right. Get well fitting clothes, work out a bit, do some basic hygiene routine daily. You're likely (and imo sadly) with that a tier or two above a lot of men in just physical attractiveness. Another thing I think is important. Nobody has the power to decide who they fal…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:36 AM
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His argument is that from now until a thousand years ago this problem has existed without being remotely solved. If you start digging even a little you can probably find a ridiculous amount of cases just going back a week or two. That a piece of shit did a false report and the court of public opinion made a man commit suicide does not mean this isn't a massive problem. In fact this highlighted a second problem to be solved, but instead you are trying to use it to make the first problem seem like…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:14 AM
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I am not surprised at the self help stuff. You're making stuff up now. I am saying it goes way beyond just being self-help, because the focus is so excessively on people other than yourself. And you can stretch a focus on women "beyond what's needed to be happy" into almost any domain. And TRP sure does. Many of the most praised authors spend way too much time on how you're perceived by women. Not on how you're perceived by yourself. The stuff about the "cock carousel" and "hypergamy" sure don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/24 03:03 AM
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This is not hate. I've read a toooon of TRP theory before as well. I used to be on this specific forum like 5-6 years ago. Making random claims about my judgement is not the key to a productive debate. Let me make a point: If you improving yourself ever ends up making the focus about others, you've completely lost the "Working on yourself" part. You're not here claiming that a lot of TRP doesn't include a lot of focus on women do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/24 05:54 PM
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TRP is not about self-discipline or self-improvement. Obsessing about self-imposed goals to the point of constantly belittling women for causing you to have said goals is extremely similar to the body dysmorphia a gym rat goes through. A gym rat doesn't attack others at least.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 04:22 PM
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Self-image stuff is a massive downside if you go too hard. Body dysmorphia has become a huge problem among men in the last 10 years. You won't get happier when you get a little bit bigger, but way too many people in the gym today think like that. The same with "just a little bit more attractive". Now if you just take the confidence boost from feeling good about working hard, that alone is attractive as hell, especially on top of just being in better shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/24 05:46 AM
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I think OP is a liar as well as a sociopath. What he says is just way too self-mastubatory
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 09:30 AM
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So far most of the descriptions here fit my gf. And in fact most of my friends girlfriends. My gf stuck to me when I dropped out of Uni quite a few years ago, she helped encourage me to be happy where I was, I've since gotten back up and am doing well for myself, but in no way would she need to stick with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/21 03:54 PM
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And yet the more attractive the man the more partners he has. We see this with the most physically attractive men. Men are polygynous. You generalize men as much as women and it's silly. Once again this is a claim you can't prove. There's no study that says: "More attractive men cheat more". The pornstar is literally the only dynamic where that is not the case, for reasons that should be already obvious to you. In literally every other circumstance a man having a high n means he has something ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 02:53 PM
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Men that can have casual sex, have casual sex. Weird, I know tons of men that have rejected it. Such a generalizing statement is just simply wrong. Many men actively choose not to attempt for it, and others even reject it when the chance comes. You didn't? Were you born yesterday ? No, I just think you're overdoing the value immensely. Was that supposed to be a serious argument? It was a serious question. If you measure a mans success by n-count a pornstar with hundreds to thousands of women in …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 12:14 PM
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No, they seek more casual sex and have more sexual partners. The causal relationship was your own addition. If you seek more casual sex of course you will have more casual sex partners. Not really hard to understand. I linked the study because it was one of the many that showed how DT men have more sexual partners which is a measures of sexual success in men. The more attractive a man is the more likely he is to have a high n count. I didn't know high n-count was sexual success. So Pornstars mus…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/21 10:28 AM
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Yeah, good thing it's not the only evidence I provided. Taken along the other studies it paints a very clear picture of what kind of guy women desire. The second study even specifically doesn't mention what kind of guy women desires, but rather explains that Narcissists have higher n-counts because they actively seek out way more casual sex. Not sure why you linked your second study either. You just have a confirmation bias that you refuse to get rid of. Instead of what measuring vagina moisture…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 11:24 PM
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Second from the top that the guy linked. The one we're currently discussing shows significant personality differences in the subjects compared to the general population. And doesn't even show what he believes in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 09:23 PM
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Well time is a big problem in an adult life sadly. Should be more readily available psychological help from professionals when necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 08:22 PM
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I discussed why it's not the evidence you think it is, and if the researchers are even remotely worth their salt, they don't believe so either. The margin of error is above 14 percent. And the way that study worked is by survey. They do an action and answer a survey after. Low representative samples do not reflect reality and in fact self-repprting is way more robust than you believe it to be. And if you're willing to do it even if you think it's bad you're perfectly fitting on with Narcissists.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 08:02 PM
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It's evidence, but it's so low level that it needs quite a few more studies of a similar nature to make a picture. And it being one of the best studies imo says everything I need to know of your knowledge of statistics. And you say you're a good dude, but in the older convo you kept going about your experience with using the dread game. That's an extremely Narcissistic move if I ever saw one. Edit: And once again it says that almost all of the Narcissism predictor is tied to Extroverted behavior…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:34 PM
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Sympathy and time will get more people out of a bad circle in life and will give them more of a chance in the dating market. It can definitely help as being in a good state of mind is important for self-confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:14 PM
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I'm saying you are like any politician that quotes a study and has no idea what it actually says. One of these studies discuss why Narcissistic men have more sex and specifically mentions that they seek it out way more than the average person. It even mentions being more exploitative and using coercion It never says that women find it them attractive. It's literally that they try more.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:11 PM
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I'm saying that linking a study with low sample size from one University where people self-select isn't evidence of anything. If you want to know what bias is look in the mirror. I'm starting to question if you just want to prove your personality trait works for your needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 07:04 PM
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It is a predictor, but not for the reasons people claim. Next. The one making the claim needs to prove their claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 06:56 PM
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It was random from a muh smaller subpopulation. That's very different from saying that it's random. Most of the survey was specifically through the calendar at one University. Edit: the bigger study doesn't say what you think it says either. It specifically talks about them having more casual sex, and that being linked to higher sociosexuality, exploitative and coercive behaviour. Not that women find it more sexy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 06:35 PM
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A sample size being good enough alone needs to be around 1067 with a completely random selection. If that's one of the best studies you've got it's ridiculous. No metastudies?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:55 PM
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The study specifically shows the table with extraversion alone being a higher predictor than Narcissism alone. Even if the study was good enough, which 40 something college aged women who specifically are willing to do speed dating isn't, it's not showing what you're trying to say it shows. It's an unrepresentative sample of a subpopulation.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:44 PM
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Ah yes, we mass linking the studie that don't say what you want them to say again. Narcissism is a much smaller predictor than extroverted people and your own study says so. Stop with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/21 05:29 PM
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Ah yes, the 9 foot tall Vampire Cougar fetish
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 02:39 PM
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It's important to find somebody that can partake in similar hobbies. In my relationship I'm the one working out and doing hikes, but they're not remotely my priority for a relationship. When we go for long hikes it's become a boys trip really fast. Problem is that it's pretty rare to find anyone that would be willing to go for long haul hikes, and for that to be people I'd like going with. My priority was gaming, which we do so much together and it's the best. Note: I find her very attractive an…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/21 02:36 PM
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At least we agree in how averages work, and for physical traits like height, the mode mean and median will be the same if you control for sex, as it's normally distributes
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:56 PM
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Well yes, but the way we describe an average is mostly based on the mean in my experience. Academically at least my experience has been that average is mean, though my biggest experience is that they use the words seperately and minimize the use of "Average" of course. Problem is that when stuff isn't specified the main assumption for average will be mean, not mode or median. Mode doesn't always fit for average either, since a distribution can be multimodal. For instance average height has two m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 01:52 PM
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Honestly she's gonna be much closer on the women, most women likely don't get over 15 around the median. How do you decide the bet?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:03 AM
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It's very basic averages. If men have sex with women, then if one woman has sex with all the men, and all the men only have sex with this one woman, then on average all women have sex with one man and all men have sex with one woman. The thing we'd rather want to discuss is median and an average where we remove what the top 10 and bottom 10 percent are doing. (Maybe even top 20 and bottom 20) The average is super uninteresting on its own.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 11:01 AM
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Holy shit you just want to repeat yourself. Where does that get you? How is it pleasant? It's because you're saying the same thing every time with different words. It doesn't change my counter-argument. You haven't actually countered them, you've just rephrased yourself. We know it was not justified IN RETROSPECT. We know it wasn't justified immediatly. Do you know the difference between someone knowing something was unjustified in the moment and figuring out later it wasn't? One person themselv…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/21 07:34 AM
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But that's my point dude. The law isn't just x person died so that equals murder my questions and statements are designed to get you to THINK. Which you refuse to do because if you did you'd have to adjust your position. You said yourself that the shooting was unjustified. THAT'S WHAT MURDER IS. Unjustified killing, at best you could get away with arguing Voluntary manslaughter in this one case. But that includes a loss of self-control due to loss of reason, for a reasonable person, not just for…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 11:12 PM
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You said things like: 1 I don't see how you can honestly believe he killed a kid for the fun of it. 2 Do you think that cop was just like "in gonna kill someone tonight, even though it will fuck up my life and land me in jail!" How does that make sense And finally 3: Murder implies intent though. If it's due to a lack of training is not Murder On the first one that's a pure strawman of me. And you've kept it up all through the convo for some reason. Even though I've said multiple times I don't c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 10:49 PM
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No, you add shit like: "For the shit of it". I've never said that, and never said he killed him "Just because". The reason he had in his head we can only speculate about so I don't give a shit. The actions that were done is what we judge things on. Flat out. Kid complied, and got shot. In the future less criminals will now comply and will be more likely to shoot. Good job cop! You killed a kid and made the job more dangerous for every other cop.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 10:09 PM
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The problem is that these people use one side as a rule and ignore the other. They just want it to be a rule because it somehow proves their point, when it has no actual scientific merit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:13 PM
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35 year old cat lady no, but a 35 year old that has been having sex with whomever she wants until then? Yeah she'll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 09:08 PM
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An "honest mistake" being an unjustified killing is not a comment I can even remotely get behind. My point is that shit like this isn't something that can be defended, it's a type of murder. And once again I never said he did it "for the shit of it". That's your strawman of me, that you refuse to get rid of. Maybe you need to do actual work to fix your crime problems instead of just killing people, you have stricter punishments and more deadly crime than any other western country.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:15 PM
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And that's not neccessary to make it a murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 05:35 PM
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Sure, and it's okay to kill criminals as long as it's in the dark, which is what you're rationalizing here.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 04:50 PM
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And the fact that there was no way for the kid to survive wit hyour logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:30 PM
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I'm not arguing he didn't comply stop repeating yourself. I'm arguing that from a distance and in the dark the action of raising your hands is until you reach the point where they are above your head very similar to the action of raising a gun. And the difference in those two actions is just a split second. Then the guy should stop chasing. In fact it's insane to keep chasing. The only ever possible result from chasing is him killing the kid. That's what you're giving me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:22 PM
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The action of lifting your hands, obviously not once they are above your head. Try and think for a second. The cop thinks he has a gun and as he's raising his hands must make a split second decision. Then the cop needs to stop telling him to show him his hands. How do you show your hands if not with them up? Surely shooting from the hip is more likely. If you want to label someone a murderer part of that is intent. Did he intend to cause harm or protect himself? A part of that is justification. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 03:16 PM
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He obviously didn't think he was complying. It was dark, the action of raising your hands could be construed as the action of raising a gun. In what world is hands above your head a way to aim a gun? I'm just mindblown that you believe this. If you cannot even guess at why it happened but want to call it murder than you aren't making sense. We can guess at why it happened, but it's not like we need to understand a specific thought process to understand that a crime has happened. Breaking the law…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 02:55 PM
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And understanding the thought process is not something we need to do. Everything neccessary is to see if the killing is justified or not. And considering that he yelled orders that were complied with, then he shot him, it's not justified. A cop shouldn't be shooting anyone that is complying, that's easily an abuse of power.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 02:20 PM
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Yeah he didn't think he was complying, whilst the kid was busy complying. Seems to be a big problem among officers. I never said he killed a kid for the fun of it. That's not what Murder means. Don't strawman me
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 02:06 PM
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He tells the kid actively to stop, the kid stops, hands in the air and gets shot. He even specifically yelled "Show me your fucking hands" and instashoots when the kid turns around hands in the air.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 01:14 PM
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It fits second degree murder just fine, if a bar fight where someone dies is 2nd degree murder then shooting someone running away in the back murder. It doesn't need to be that your goal was to murder them, but you obviously did not care if it did. Which shows malice. EDIT: Surely cops need higher standards than regular people
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 12:30 PM
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Saying that police are murdering people unneccessarily and saying that the overall police force needs more training is not mutually exclusive. If the problem is systemic in fact I'd say they're mutually inclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 11:20 AM
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I won't challenge that. Just that grammar is not a good way to check how good someone's sources is. The way to check it is by checking out their sources (Or lack thereof)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:49 AM
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There's correlation there and in a lot of cases lack of social skills lead to virginity, but you can definitely be a virgin and have good social skills. It's not the virginity that is the problem here though, it's the lack of social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:11 AM
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The vast majority of all of your behaviors and beliefs are based on the anecdotal experience of yourself, your parents, or your community Most beliefs I have are based on ethics, not experiences. Experiences change my actions to follow my ethics, but they don't change my ethics. But to assess societal truths and to discuss political theory I will always use statistics over anecdotes. In fact I think anecdotes are worthless. Relying on your circular logic to dismiss that is ridiculous. I'm not us…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 08:04 AM
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She claimed it could be checked by actual sources, this is just items she remembered of the top of her head, according to the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:47 AM
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I'll say that she didn't post sources and agree there, but don't base whatever you say on how bad someone's grammar is. That's ridicolous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:37 AM
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Wait are you basing someone's statistical sources on how good they are at grammar? Is that how stats works?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:11 AM
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Don't defend anecdotes. It's really bad, especially anecdotes from older upper class citizens. The greatest philosopher didn't use anecdotes, mostly the assessments they made weren't stuff that could be tested, even anecdotally. They talked about ethics and how certain you could be of existence, or they talked about math. They did a few minor scientific tests as well, but nothing major or statistical
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:10 AM
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American police just kill way more than other police in the western world. And they also have way less training. And there's multiple cases of people being shot in the back. American police have more unnecessary death and it's a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 07:03 AM
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Automation has still gone way further in my country than America, and we're still not fearing automation as much as Americans do. EDIT: This video covers some of it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/21 10:55 AM
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The only issue I have is that you seem to agree with me, but I'm the one getting attacked. Which is why I'm annoyed
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:21 PM
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I'm not triggered. Projection again! :P I am surely triggered, if it was projection that would include denial. Mostly because I am getting attacked and given opinions I have never held. By you. They are playing catchup because they are just observing and enumerating what is already happening all around them. It's not an insult, just pointing out that we all observe and enumerate and jointly construct manhood and womanhood, the scientists are just being slightly more careful in their enumerations…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:12 PM
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I didn't read the whole thread tbh. I'd recommend doing that before you get triggered at me, I just stated that the guy fits in the definition of the male sex as long as he has the main and most of the secondary traits of being a guy. Which he does. This other guy then went on a tirade about some 2000 year old historians. Which are worthless to that specific discussion. Maybe science can derive main and secondary traits, but they are just playing catchup trying to artificially categorize natural…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 06:58 PM
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So being able to bear children, or being more or less strong than average should have no bearing on how people live their life? Being more or less aggressive? Empathy? Don't know where you get this from. I've never stated anything that says I don't agree with you here. These are all things which statistically correlate well with the male/female dichotomy, and have definitely influenced the development of our values and institutions and cultural mythologies since we were monkeys. Yes. And parts o…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 06:40 PM
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Nono, you can pay for a sex act, you just gotta film and upload it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 06:17 PM
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The poor treatment of gays and other minorities in America was not corrected in spite of tradition, rather it was corrected because people observed incoherence between traditional western values like the innate value of humans and personal liberty, contrasted with the terrible way lgtbq people were actually treated. And religious people of tradition still really hate gay people. It's the conservatives that are the problem here, not the people actively progressing. Also, transformation is a natur…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 06:12 PM
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Humans have not changed much in the last 2,000 years. Human culture and scientific understanding has changed violently in just the last 50 years. You have internalized some arbitrary separation between you and past humanity. Modern institutions and values spring, not from "who we are", but from a tradition of functionally living in the world which stretches back into antiquity. Tons of modern institutions have sprung forth despite the past, not because of it. There's a reason why tons of Western…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 05:38 PM
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That's a whole lot of nothing to me what you're saying. I really don't care about tradition, nor do I care about being tied down. And a smaller simpler definition ties me a lot less down than being forced to read 2000 year old historian definitions of being male. It's worthless to me and to the overall community in the world today. Ask any man and you'll find that almost no-one is trying to quote cicero for their definition. What matters is who I am and I have no idea why I should need to confor…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 02:49 PM
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50/50-ish, not really keeping track. We're saving money on seperate accounts for a house, but are paying bills, food and rent together. Not a big issue, she's been very sick lately, but still gets paid a sick leave, which easily covers her expenses and her half of rent. Biggest problem right now is that I have ADHD and am struggling to take care of everything at home myself combined with work and studies.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 12:06 PM
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I am so confused, why would we not trust modern medicine and biology about these definitions? Not random historians that were actively wrong Why do you believe this is something only undergrads believe? Edit: Two thousand year old traditions don't believe in evolution, or that the earth revolves around the sun. Lots of tradition is just wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/21 07:08 AM
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Choose to live your life however you want, and for the sake of your gf I hope she learns self-respect and chooses someone else. Because getting cheated on can cause serious emotional damage and I hope for her sake she avoids that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 10:48 PM
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Probably, likely he doesn't love someone he's willing to cheat on just because he finds someone more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 10:08 PM
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Just say the truth. He's fine with hurting the one he loves and should stay single for the good of that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 09:45 PM
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And some things can still be recorded factually, especially when people were known to keep records. With your logic we could throw the entire Holocaust into the mix for what is true and what isn't. Yes some history is difficult to record, but in areas where they have to speculate there's usually a lot of discussion between historians. And that's very well recorded where they disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:31 PM
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They're pretty crushing on shit like the Holodomor and The great leap forward. Not sure how you feel leftist ideologes ruin that. If not I have no idea what part of history you feel Wikipedia is wrong about. Even the guys criticizing calling Holodomor as genocide quoted in the wiki article are saying it was specifically manufactured to hurt Ukraine.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:52 PM
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Sure, I just didn't think my take was very controversial. The best proof linked so far is a wikipedia article about sexism. And I can agree that that one needs an update. Sexism isn't a social science on It's own though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 05:27 PM
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People say this, but the proof is very slim to me
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 04:36 PM
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Wikipedia usually has studies as their sources again. I'm definitely taking their word over internet randoms any day of the week. On math and statistics it matches my textbooks almost perfectly as well, so at least there it's straight forward
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 03:23 PM
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He cheated multiple times, she's been seen obviously rejecting him even just holding her hand. She's mostly avoiding living with him as well. Their relationship doesn't exist. She likes money and he has it. Besides that there's obvious contempt from her side. The guy wouldn't know what love is if it spat him in the face
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 12:57 PM
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Of course I tell her when I leave, and an expected time to be home as well as the latest possible. If I'm going to an after party I tell her. If she needs me home earlier I'll be home earlier. She does the same for me. It's definitely not fully independent, but what I am doing that night is definitely not being fully dependent on her either.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 07:33 AM
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I get it, at least it sounds like you're a good friend !
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 09:40 PM
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If they're all pretty high achievers then I guess on average it will be hard to find someone to match that. Hopefully she grows on you if they stay together at least
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 09:20 PM
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That isn't neccesarily that she's boring or dumb to him though, she could just be ridicolously shy/suffer from social anxiety? But yes, people like that are indeed hard to talk to and it sucks, becuase sometimes if they open up they can finally manage to say everything they have been sitting on. At least in my experience, one of the smartest and most talented guys I know has social anxiety and has tons of knowledge combined with extremely high learning capabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 08:58 PM
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That sounds pretty cool, and great of you to do too! You must really love her! Now, I still say that small things are independent, like going out for the night with friends. Or what you do with personal hobbies. If being single is a 0 and a fully codependent relationship is a 1, I'd aspire to a 0.8. Any decision down to dinner gets decided together, while anything smaller is just stuff we can choose to do together or not. According to what we want to do. Just don't make all activities individual…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 08:49 PM
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Sounds like you want a woman that doesn't challenge your opinions on anything? God having "yes"-men around is the worst, having them be a woman doesn't change that nuisance one bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 08:43 PM
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Unless you suffer from a personality disorder this just isn't true. Men need emotional support as much as women do
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 04:39 PM
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Yeah and I've seen people like you many times, you've got confirmation Bias written all over this
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:41 AM
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Can I repeat the word "Anecdotes"? Want me to use two more words that are ever present in people like you? "Confirmation Bias" I bet you see three women that hang out, one is minorly unhappy for no discernable reason and you confirm to yourself that this is definitely that dynamic!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:21 AM
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It makes people mad when you assume how their life works based on ridiculous anecdotes from middle school.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:15 AM
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It's weird though, here we have way more automation than the US, but still enough jobs. New things that robots can't do will prop up still. And when everything is automated we can be chilling like ancient greece, with no slavery on top of it. Just need to implement that UBI before we get there, and increase it based on automation levels.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:11 AM
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That's not remotely achievable with an AI. The best robots today can kinda fool people over a chat with specific questions, there's no way we will be capable of immersion IRL with a robot that can replace all our companionship needs before robots learn how to do engineering. Engineering is much less advanced than emotions
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 07:00 AM
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Depends entirely on the reason doesn't it? If my gf got cancer with a two year life expectancy and wound up bedridden, where any movement at all would suck ass, then yes I'd be an ass if I left. If she just stops having sex with me flat out and refuses to communicate about it, nobody would blame me for leaving. Both of these scenarios are true with the roles reversed as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 06:55 AM
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It was useless. So apologize to them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 06:51 AM
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Uh sure, if you forgot about her that fast that sounds like a fling at best. Don't mix those with LTR companionship. There's a world of difference
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 11:42 PM
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I'm sorry, that's a hilarious concept. Just stick a fleshlight on your car if it's even remotely the same as the romantic companionship you get from a human you love. There's zero chance you're not fucking with me
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 11:13 PM
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Yes I can. My father never hit me. I'm by your standards a son that's never been to jail or done drugs. My brother has never done either of these things either. Beating your kids didn't change this. You were abusive for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 11:02 PM
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Human emotions and companionship will be much harder to develop in AI than engineering feats. Not sure why you think the companionship will come first.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 10:51 PM
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When one woman gets a loving relationship, one man does. If you consider a loving relationship to be one that includes lasting for many years and both are happy in it the entire time, and the male and female population to be equal, the chance of finding a loving relationship for men and women is extremely close to equal. If a woman does 50 tries and the median man does five tries, then they find each other, the median man on average will have a 20% chance, and the median woman will have a 2% cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 10:46 PM
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All of these problems always sounds like an issue of communication. Where people assume one side is bad. Men, if your sex life in a LTR is bad, communicate it. Women, if you want to have more sex, but he doesn't do it right, tell him what you like. It's not weird people hate each other on these subs when all of this shit sounds like classic relationship problems with the same tired solutions that people still refuse to try.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 10:22 PM
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If you didn't know, they do almost all in fact date men to get that. And almost all loving relationships have a max of two people on the ride. Just by the sheer power of how this works, when one woman finds a loving relationship, one man does. And here I'd say a loving relationship is something that will last for a big chunk of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 10:11 PM
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Anyone who gets married got there by choice, if they regret it for any reason divorce exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 10:06 PM
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Women have an easier time finding relationships, not loving relationships. If you mix up those two things then of course you can conclude that women have the most privilege, but you're forgetting that abusive, cold and boring relationships are a part of "Relationships", but are very specifically excluded from "Loving relationships".
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 08:03 PM
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Assuming something is sexist just because it applies more to one sex just means you don't understand what it means. If Lesbian women can put each other in this situation, then by definition it isn't sexist. It's also not sexist to recognize the fact that men do most of these things, just by virtue of being physically stronger than women. EDIT: And this is still a stupid argument because we both know you don't believe in it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 07:56 PM
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We both know you're being performative with shit you don't believe in, stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 07:25 PM
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Didn't read past this. You mean you didn't want to read past that because you don't dare challenge anything our ignorance is so profound that you think it's a virtue. I never said that my ignorance is a virtue, but for this topic it's completely irrelevant to the actual facts of the matter. It's like citing aristotle about biology, while avoiding a biology book. You have no idea what a man is, and you will never be one. Medical and biological definitions of sex are the important parts. And I ful…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 07:18 PM
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Acknowledging differences in physical strength isn't sexism. Stop acting like it is, we both know you're performing with this and don't actually believe what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 07:09 PM
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Try reading Cicero, or Tacitus, or Thucydides, or a Periclean speech, or literally any kind of history, and see if their version of a man includes obesity or eunochdom. The fuck cares about what people believed 2000+ years ago? It's got no relevance to the actual medical community today. And nobody here has been a eunuch anyway. Having a lower libido doesn't make you one. The problem here is that you're completely unfamiliar with history, literature, and the arts and so a normative ideal of what…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:58 PM
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After you fall in love with someone it's not like they become your soul mate, it's just that the work you put in together to fit in with each other over a long period of time, and the success you have gotten through trial and error is extremely valuable. If I spent 10 years in a LTR and we've worked through thick and thin together to be batter partners for each other, no way I'm changing that out for money. I'd not spend another 10 years of my short life with the risk of not finding a person lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:34 PM
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A perfect relationship has the "love" setting on max though.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:27 PM
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If you are in a closed off area with someone where you don't feel safe leaving, they are behaving in a threatening manner. I didn't know you had to state: "I am threatening you" to be threatening.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:26 PM
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Huh? If you're aware of the strenght difference, and notice that your "partner" is fearing for their life and thus is having sex with you you're one step away from a rapist. I didn't know recognizing inherent differences in strength was sexist now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:16 PM
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Find me someone who will sign that prenup who's got an above 80 IQ. For a LTR partner I value an above average intellect highly.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 04:47 PM
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If you're locked in a situation with her where you'd rather be home, but you think the chances of getting home are higher if you don't anger her, it's probably safer to just have sex with her. That's pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 04:42 PM
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I've never seen the definition of a man to include libido or obesity levels. I guess you feel it should. The problem here is that you have some weird definition that's not a part of any medical definition of male.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 03:12 PM
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Not everyone needs sex all the time. The fact that people sometimes get lower sex drive from stress shouldn't be enough to cause the mental anguish equal to being cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 03:10 PM
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Imagine if it's a grandma that's falling apart, just that she's physically stronger than you for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 12:00 PM
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Neglecting your partner's desire as a way to control him is abusive. If she just has a very low libido then him pressuring her into sex is abusive. The rest I agree with. If libidos aren't within an acceptable range of each other that's a problem and needs to be talked about and potentially (even likely) you need to break up.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:42 AM
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My gf gropes me, makes crude comments and watches porn. I do the same to her. Neither of us follow hundreds of instagram models though, sounds stupid. We're 100% certain we're not just with each other for the sex. The way we interact sexually should have no effect on that. And we trust each other to communicate when there are problems, in or out of the bedroom.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:25 AM
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If she's just not horny, is that still abuse? Or should they talk about it and figure out if they even should be in a relationship if their libidos are too dissimilar?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:06 AM
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Not if she cheats. Relationship over if she's caught, not worth the risk or the potential mental anguish you bring on to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:04 AM
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How long does a problem last in a relationship before you cheat? One day of stress with lower libido is enough? Do we need a month or year? What if I get cancer and have to be on meds that kill anything libido like? Stupid rules like this have no basis in reality
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 06:01 AM
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I am the (Thunder)bear, they are just crabs angry at the world. Lost control to their penis early on and will drag anyone standing above that down with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:53 AM
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An obese person will be at risk for serious health issues and risk dying young. Low libido doesn't do anything like that to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/21 05:49 AM
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Dude I think it's brave to go out with this on this sub, people here are really shitty to any man that's not obsessed with getting laid, or that cares about women in the slightest. It's much better to be like you and try to do what makes you happy, if that is casual sex or if it's a LTR, or even just casual dating, why does this need to be shamed?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 11:06 PM
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What's the problem with being who he is? Low libido male is still just as much a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 11:03 PM
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Romantic relationship isn't just "Friendship + Sex" you know? The guy is straight, just because he doesn't want to have sex all the time doesn't mean that cuddling/making out/emotional intimacy is something he wants to share with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/21 11:01 PM
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You think Bieber was huge because of 40yo ladies? Fascinating. No, we're starting strawmen now? No, your study wasn't about physical androgyny. It's about both physical and characteristic traits. They specifically rate for physical attractiveness as well. Not sure what more you want, first experiment specifically states they rate for attractiveness. You quote it but you apparently can't read it. Maybe it's the language barrier. Again, they separate it in the graph right above that quote. At this…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 04:48 PM
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How so? Bieber was also huge and also idolized by teens. And he had superfans in their 40s. Older women just don't idolize to ridicolous degrees as teens do in general, so of course it will look like only teens. This isn't about physical androgyny. Did you think the Bishounen term did not include physical androgyny? Or did you change the rules on what I brought up? That's weird. Stop it. It literally did. Are you trolling me? It even has a bigass graph showing the effect. You quoted a sentence a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 03:47 PM
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In Asian countries. In the West it's only teens. Women are attracted to more androgynous men in their teens. BTS has gotten way too popular in the west for this to stay true. Already back in 94 this was challenged as [Seen here] (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/247746409_The_Attractiveness_of_Gender-Typed_Traits_at_Different_Relationship_Levels_Androgynous_Characteristics_May_Be_Desirable_after_all) I think you just don't want this to be true because it upends an extremely annoying part…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 12:18 PM
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Not really. Sure, you seem to have everyone down to a T, I bet you also know exactly when covid stops. 18yos tops. Based on? At least when I look for it it seems to be popular even among women in Japan. And even worse, look how insanely popular Korean boybands are. They all look androgynous as hell. And they have female fans of more ages than just teens. Nope, if you look at the study it shows that it's the COMBINATION of narcissism and extraversion , not extraversion by itself. Simply non narci…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 09:50 AM
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Ok so I guess we're onto materialism. Good, I think we can quit here, the most important part is that your value is more than your money. Friendship is also worth something and it's provably not money :D
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 12:13 AM
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So first comes teh act that results in laugh and talking smack, then comes the benefit, then comes the friendship. Friendship is the benefit. An analogy But if you talk about the end result in your analogy specifically as an argument, it's not analogous with the point you want to make. Just for me to be extremely anal here. That benefit can be material (money) or immaterial (feels) in any case, the benefit is what is valued. I'm so uncertain if you're a materialist or what, you obviously believe…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 12:04 AM
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You mean completely minute and unimportant differences in looks? Fascinating. You'll be surprised at some peoples preferences. Yes, it's a teen girls thing. It's even a young adult thing. Yes, I'm talking about sexual desire. I'm not talking about comfort. Sexual desire is not just unique to short term attraction. Stop acting like it is. Are you seriously suggesting that nonndark triad men don't go for casual sex? No, I am saying they go for way less casual sex. Anyway, nope, they were found mor…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/21 12:01 AM
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I disagree, the physical act alone creates the benefit. The friend is a friend because he can consistently provide the benefit through that act. Benefit first, friendship later. Not the other way around. Imo the friendship is the benefit, that's been my experience with friends at least. Friendship (In its simplest form) is just someone you can laugh and talk smack with easily imo. And since the only way to say someone is valued is by looking at the way humanity treats them, women are more valuab…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 11:31 PM
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It comes from a physical act. But the result isn't physical, and the physical act alone isn't meaningful unless it's a friend doing it. Which is not a physical thing. I guess I am not content with being blind enough to ignore that all immaterial benefits can only exist if they are born out of physical acts. Well anything a human does is a physical act. The result of that physical act might not be something tangible still. They don't bring any benefit to the world that isn't material. However the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 11:17 PM
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That specific benefit is not a physical object is it? That's what material would be. If you think friendship is material as well though, I'm curious if you think women bring any values to the world that aren't material. Because you used this specifically against men, but I can't see how this doesn't apply to women at all. If you're a Materialist like you seem to be
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 11:07 PM
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No quick change acts go smoothly when unpracticed, and we're kinda going in raw here yeah x)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:59 PM
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But the end result of a friendship to you doesn't have a physical form. Whilst your boss has the end result of being able to dance around in cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:58 PM
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These skills have no physical form, so by definition they're not material.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:36 PM
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If I try to google short men, even short ugly men, I jut get hot men. Doesn't really help my case to link Jason Statham or Bruce Willis lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:24 PM
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Hey what you said here is actually something I kinda agree with. I think the numbers are a bit off, but overall I agree with the sentiment. Another way to also fix any hypergamy problems that we're seeing change, is just to increase the average income of women. For younger generations they're hitting similar levels now and it's very visibile in dating patterns as well. While we have women that shoot for the sky money wise (See gold diggers), we have women that just want a home and a happy life, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:22 PM
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Sorry to say I will not doxx a friend nor myself for an internet debate. First of all because that's bad Second of all because I just called him ugly, which is not a nice thing to do to friends, but he's definitely not on the pretty side. He just has confidence and sells it well.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:18 PM
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That's not material though. You specifically answered someone saying you're valuable independently of your material contributions, in which you said that no man is. I say that you agreeing with me by having my male friends in a completely immaterial way making my day better is showing value independently of material contributions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:15 PM
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I get plenty of compliments the unnattractive men in my friend group get none. Nice try though. I have a guy in my friend group that is short and bald, before he got his fit gf (Whom he's been with for 7-8 years now), he was pretty damn active with women, even though he's shorter than 5 foot 6. He had very good self-esteem and with the women he surrounded himself with I'd say he deserved it. If objective unattractiveness was a thing he'd probably fit in there, and he still had a few hot women go…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:12 PM
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What's the material value of my male friendships with people where we just hang out and drink beer and talk smack? I'd say by your logic we're both losing money and a day (Cus hangovers), without getting anything in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:08 PM
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Many hot babes aren't gold diggers with a canvas for a personality. But hot babes are surely the 10/10 less than 1% of the female population type, most men aren't going to get that no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:07 PM
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Attractive people get more compliments. But what is attractive is individual, and it's way more people that get compliments than you'd believe at first. If you're more social and talk to people more you will get this. Thanks for saying I'm a sexy chad though :D
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 10:05 PM
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Once again I believe TRP is secretly making me into a Chad. Because I hung around with women not afraid to give compliments. Men do get compliments from women, it's just that women barely ever put themselves out there compared to men, so they give them more rarely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 09:31 PM
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Decent men should be avoiding women like Melania like the fucking plague. They're not that crazy common. Any decent man can get a decent woman if they stop looking at gold digger supermodels with a canvas for a personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 09:28 PM
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I wish it was as easy as telling you not to worry about it, but the best tip I can give is to put some extra thought into what you prefer to do and who you prefer to be around of your friends. If you feel like you're missing out you can give a few parties a shot, just go with the expectation of talking to people and having fun. But it must be you feeling that, not someone else telling you to feel that. It might be a bit convoluted, but I hope you get what I mean x)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 09:23 PM
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Everyone surely know gold diggers exist, and that Melania Trump is the epitome of one. Doesn't mean that saying she's every woman is more correct
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 09:13 PM
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There's tons of things that are valuable besides material contributions. You're punching yourself down for no reason. All your friends aren't friends with you just because of your money are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 08:14 PM
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Imo sex is a small part of a relationship. The emotional aspect is more important in my world, don't get me wrong, sex is important and being sexually content with your partner is neccessary for a happy relationship (In most relationships), but sex isn't remotely close to everything. I want to travel with my LTR, chill at a beach or go up to the acropolis with her. If I just wanted sex from it I'd not get into all the extra with a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 03:23 PM
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I have a few female friends that I am still friends with after they started being in a relationship. The question for why, I guess they're obsessed with their new bf and are afraid of making him jealous? It's probably not uncommon especially for younger people in relationships to obsess over things like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 12:26 PM
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The traits that are sexually attractive don't change. At best what changes is the expression of those traits. For example "high status" in a group of hipsters might be different than what's high status in a ghetto. Then men are attracted to high status women as much as women are to men, which you have argued they aren't. Since men used to be attracted to fatter women. Other changes that don't reflect status at all include for instance shaved vs unshaved, short vs long hair. Also, have you heard …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 12:23 PM
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So? It's just a complex term, it's not moving the goal posts. It's always what it meant. Alpha traits are indeed the traits women find sexually attractive and they do factor into hypergamy. And if the traits that women find sexually attractive change, does being an "Alpha" change as well? Because sexually attractive traits have changed with the years. It's not. Like at all. Just because women say they care about it, doesn't mean they do. Dark triad men, bullies and criminals fuck MORE than other…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 10:12 AM
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Uh, how is it movable? That's literally how RP always used the term. It includes soo many variables, while I keep getting different definitions from RPers here. Some just said it's traits that are sexually attractive. It's not, which is why it's not sexually attractive. Almost as much as 50% of women find it important for casual sex, so while it's not as important as looks for casual sex, it is very highly valued. Isnt it? Fair point, seems I was wrong here. I'll have to research more into why t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 06:34 AM
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Cherry picking stats down to the point where they're no longer a statistic because of how few datapoints there are is using a super unrepresentative number for high earners. Imo to the point of ridiculousness, if you do the math you can see the insane confidence interval you will need. Just let's say there's a hundred high income earner women, 20 get sampled and we have 75% chance of success (here staying together), the confidence interval for this population is +- 17%. So for 75% it's then some…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 05:46 AM
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For people who do the stats? Imo it just sounds super cherry picked.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/21 04:57 AM
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The 100 sample size is all the people they counted. Not just women. Reread your blogpost. Next CEO's are not a good sample for all high income women in Sweden. Why just the very top? Surely there's tons of high income women that's not CEOs? As they usually comprise about 40+% of a board.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:53 PM
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Hypergamy in RP isn't used as it's used in sociology. The study you are referring to talks about income while hypergamy in TRP means she is only attracted to the man she deems best in looks, status, game(alpha traits). So it's an easily moved goalpost whenever neccessary. That's what I hear. Another trait that's much more popular than all of these are prosocial behavior, which in fact includes things like "Kindness". Is Kindness an alpha trait? Or is it an Alpha trait when it becomes sexually vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:51 PM
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20 people is not indicative of a trend. I can't express this enough. I'd not be able to use 20 people to make any predictions about the next individual showing up.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:40 PM
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Hopefully you do, I'm not a great source for this as it's just something I've heard about. The way you described feeling alone about this though was another thing. In fact two things WebMD lists are how you don't "get" hookup culture and how you feel about someone you're not emotionally bonded to. Hopefully you figure it out, and at worst I am wrong, but good luck anyway :D
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:35 PM
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Yeah definitely not as common as we want it to sound like. On average I think people have about 10-11 sexual partners in their life, probably one or two are LTRs, rest are hookups from dates, or people they were trying something with that didn't work out. People here keep talking about the "Cock carousel", but on average one new penis every eight years just doesn't fit that. And if it was only 20 to 30, it's not much of a carousel if you go once per year. The concept is insane to me overall. And…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:32 PM
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Once again that's kinda guesswork. In the world? Probably higher. Or are we only counting in places where women can safely divorce without risking arrest/murder/living alone for the rest of their life?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:29 PM
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Ah Demisexuals as far as I know aren't always disgusted by people who partake in hook-up culture, but they really do not get it, and they can get grossed out by the thought of having to take part. I wouldn't use me as a good reference for this though, if you feel it fits you should research it more yourself, just be critical (Which it sounds like you are to be fair).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:28 PM
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Very doubtful. Hypergamy with AWALT alone is disproven by a bigger and bigger subgroup of women leaving Hypergamy behind. It's a pretty simple one. Another is that they state early on that women don't fall in love the way "Romantic movies" say they do. On the sidebar, straigth from "The rational male" "Women are utterly incapable of loving a man in the way that a man expects to be loved." That's insane and said without any backing evidence. Why would they need the approval of some study to make …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:25 PM
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Yeah sure. Not sure why you're so hyped on the least possible representative sample though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:21 PM
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It's not very exact, but yes, there's definitely more to it than what I wrote here. It's just that this post kinda screamed it at me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:21 PM
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There's a big difference between being unfomfortable doing it and saying you get grossed out though. I'd say most women and men I know have had a hook-up above a certain age. People who do it with ease are much rarer than the ones who do it once or twice in their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:16 PM
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About 28% is the first one I could find. But that said that 28% of people born to Swedish born parents had been Divorced, so it includes people who never got married. So only thing I can say is that it's above 28% really. Which means that CEO women in Sweden at best are lower than the average divorce rate in Sweden. But once again. 20 or so women is not representative.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:40 PM
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I'm just curious if you've heard of the term "Demisexual" before? You described something I had heard about before, but couldn't put the finger on it. It means that you can only really feel sexual attraction towards someone you're emotionally bonded to. If this doesn't fit you can disregard me!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:37 PM
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And I'm saying that we need evidence for it to actually discuss how true it is. The problem with TRP in the first place is that they make an extreme amount of statements about women, and quite a few of them simply aren't true. My experience has been to look at a statement, go through the actual stats, then say that there's no way they can make this claim with the evidence at hand. Either because the evidence says something different, or because the evidence is inconclusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:31 PM
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a 25% divorce rate is extremely low lol, that's way lower than the general population. And in a limited pool like that you have no idea what substantial is before you do some calculations. At best it's 50 women? EDIT: At best it's like 20 women lol, considering Sweden still have a very low proportion of women in CEO positions. Surely we're not saying that 20 women are representative for women as a whole, when it's such a rare thing when women become CEO's
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:19 PM
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"And another 30%"? I've read the sources for 50% of marriages ending up in divorce before, but that also adds on the fact that first time marriages have a much higher staying power, which means that people who have been divorced once usually get divorced twice or three times. I've not seen that another 30% on top of this are unhappy or sexless though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:18 PM
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"Most" versus "Many" Very different choice of words here, makes a big impact. If 1% of women do, then that's like 40 million women. That's many women, but it's not most.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:51 PM
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Do you know what we call lying with statistics? When the graph's furthest down reach goes to .75, not to 0. So 75% of women who became CEOs over a period of 10 years, where there was a total sample size of 100, where we don't know the proportion of women to men, is not something you can use to conclude anything. In fact what you linked me show that somewhere between 75 and 80% of women stay married after becoming a CEO, but you're trying to say they won't stay married.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:49 PM
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The logic just doesn't say that women will be more unhappy. If they can provide for themsevels they will be mroe capable of being in a relationship with someone without worrying about money in the first place, then they can be in a relationship with whoever they want. The same logical conclusion could be that they're happier just because they can more likely marry out of love. Which higher educated women have a higher tendency for, as 8/10 marriages for higher educated women (Who have a bigger t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:34 PM
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There's no way you can know this, this is once again pure conjencture where you're speaking for women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:11 PM
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he rest of the 80% of men are in relationships or having sex with women who are either just lukewarm or frigid about them. This just isn't true, then we'd see way more divorces. If only 50% of marriages end as divorce then this is already working against this. Unless you believe most women just stay in unhappy relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 07:53 PM
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This requires so many assumptions that it's not really worth even entertaining. If 40% date down among the women with potential to date down, then this isn't some "smallish" subset lol. And this has been an ever increasing number, are you trying to argue that the growth in that direction will just flat stop?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 07:45 PM
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But women as a whole don't want to date down. If 40% of women with the potential to date down, do in fact date down, who are you to speak for women as "a whole" lol. Numbers just speak against it. This has been extremely observable in recent years, and educated women even have a much higher tendency of staying married than uneducated women, even though they date down a lot more.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 05:29 PM
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Here is what I found Quote from it: "To find out, the researchers tested paternity in 24 bonobo offspring conceived over the 12-year period from 2002 to 2013 in one bonobo community living in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. They compared that paternity data to published data in chimpanzee communities."
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 05:09 PM
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Nope cause men dated down. Yes, like I stated. Men did date down, because more men were higher up in the hierarchy. Just like now that more women get higher up, they too actively have to start dating down. It would be if for the entirety of your career you were a merchant who got a great deal from those who were in better financial position. Cool, economics and Relationships follow different rules and logic. Comparing the two is silly. Economics alone is extremely complicated and has very few in…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 05:07 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 05:00 PM
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This is from the example of one group though, and also is the goal of sex for TRP to have offspring? Or to get off? Sounds like an important differential to me. They also used 24 offpsring in a very small group of Bonobos, this sounds like they used a way more blown up story than what the truth might be. For all we know there was just that one guy had stronger sperm in a small commune.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:45 PM
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Mothers have been observed helping their young sons have sex with other females in the group.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:37 PM
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They don't see me as a risk. There is absolutely no reason for them to think that. So yes they would need to read my mind to think that, as nothing what I'm doing indicates that in the slightest. If you ghost a woman after sex, you get seen as a risk. It's not like this is something magical they haven't encountered before. In fact, if you just lose all interest after, that's gonna cause the same problem. Women aren't stupid, they can tell that your pattern of behavior changes drastically before …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:36 PM
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It's weird to me that you mention Bonobos here. Bonobos are kinda famous for having sex with everyone in their group. A lot. It's just a social behavior for them to have it with everyone going around. In fact the female strategy for avoiding infanticide is to have sex with all the males, so that nobody dares to kill the baby, in case it is their own. Bonobos are just not a great example lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:30 PM
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Called out on what? It's impossible for people to know wether you're doing something because you genuinely want to, or just because you think it will be beneficial to you. They can't look inside your head and read your mind. Do they need to read your mind to understand that you might not be worth the risk in the future? This isn't a court of law. Well that's something I wouldn't do, because that would result in getting labelled as fuckboy and loosing status in that woman's social group, which th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 04:17 PM
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Are you kidding me? This is an ultra clear sentence "Following morals is only beneficial as long as it is used to improve your social status which then improves your life." And I disagree with that concept. You get called out for this once and it ruins your current social life with anyone that trusts you. There's a reason why sociopaths commonly get avoided after a certain amount of time. Wait. Now you're confusing me. Do you think that 'amoral' & 'immoral' are two different things? Yes. Amoral …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:41 PM
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Are you not able to read? Yes. Following these rules are beneficial for you. That you wrote your first two paragraphs about something which I already clearly talked about shows me that you didn't read my comments properly at all. What's the point of arguing if you don't listen to the other person? And the way you clearly talked about it was just not beneficial for you. Even in the most egoist type setting, it risks harming you in the future, in both chances for sex and that in harming others bri…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 03:26 PM
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Isn't this the same with what it was for educated men only a few decades ago? This argument doesn't really hold if women are only looking for men to improve their quality of life in a material way. As that means that love is a much better motivator than hypergamous strategies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:44 PM
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I'm arguing this from an egoistic perspective. Why should I give a fuck about arbitrary morals which have been created by a society which doesn't care about me? Because following these rules are extremely beneficial for you as well? People will actively avoid you if they learn that your antisocial behavior is a thing. This sounds like some self-defeatist purpose. And you're also alienating potential people that would care about you. In fact not following these rules makes women have less casual …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 02:30 PM
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So what? What would be the benefit of following rules? Are you gonna argue this from a psychopaths perspective? Really? That's your defense? If you say yes to this I guess we need to break out the fact that: Moral egoism is not helped by mistreating others, in fact the polar opposite You need psychological help. It's more like "everything which helps getting laid is alpha and everything which doesn't is beta". Yeah so, basically what I said lol. Super dumb, that means the label actively changes …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 01:51 PM
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You don't understand. The point is that many TRP men simply don't give a fuck about ethics. Okay good. Then we know what's wrong with it. They don't follow ethical rules. Which means that they're fine with whoever they're hurting to get what they want. You did just answer your own question. TRP wants to get laid, not create an award winning scientific publication. Alpha/Beta is good enough to explain the concept therefore it is used. It doesn't have to be perfectly accurate. When it misses on ve…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 10:35 AM
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Why is that a problem? Because something being devoid of morals means that you can do whatever you want to get "the prize"? Lie, manipulate, pressure and even criminal, like spiking her drink. All of these are amoral. I know of no application of ethics where it says that you can take morals out of a dating scenario. If you know the theory you're perfectly fine to explain it to me. Because the guy who said that dating is amoral (which is a comment as a source), knows jack shit about ethics. Obvio…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 09:16 AM
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Oh I read that there was a saying lol my bad. But great, I have no idea why she would try things with someone like that. Sounds stupid to me. How representative of the general population is she though?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:40 AM
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AWALT for hypergamy is one, as more and more women are now dating down in income and education. If I remember correctly it had recently increased to something like 40% for educated women between 23 and 32.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:35 AM
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I corrected this in another comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 08:32 AM
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Well yeah, but they usually just message back. In both cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 12:25 AM
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Yes and I corrected myself and explained what I meant, at least adress that part instead
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 12:23 AM
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I guess I might have misused the term "Spinning plates" here? I did mean that it's difficult to keep up multiple lies at the same time, and that's why TRP advices against it. Not because it's actually immoral. And you sniping that one part explains EVERYTHING about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/21 12:04 AM
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If TRP was about ethical dating strategy this would be fine. Problem with TRP is that they argue that dating is amoral, that lying is fine if you're willing with taking the risks of "spinning plates". They also base themselves on the whole extremely weak concept of "Alpha/Beta" males. It has no merit in reality. Many women don't prefer "Dominant" men (And the agressive traits that come with them), many men change completley how dominant they are in a situation, and human individual tastes are mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 11:32 PM
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Because it discusses reality and is actively wrong* you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 11:21 PM
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Read the comment that already responded proving you wrong. The comment that said a saying proves me wrong? Sayings are not proof. In fact, they're just words based on conjencture. Others also said that they have sex with chad on his terms but do the sex they like with their husband Someone said they had sex with a "Chad" when they were younger and dumber, or when they felt unsafe saying no. I haven't seen anyone else saying this. Not that this once again would create a representative sample, as …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 11:20 PM
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I didn't know sayings were representative samples of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 11:18 PM
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This is just not it though. Sometimes people change when they get older, it's not that they're suddenly saints, it's just that they're a different person compared to who they were 5-10 years ago. Most people change quite drastically during that amount of time as young adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 11:09 PM
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None of the women here have said they're more freaky in bed with a ONS than a LTR. Not sure where you got that from lol. As a dude I've also only ever had someone try new fancy things with me during my LTR, never during ONS. In fact a ONS gets awkward really fast compared.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 11:07 PM
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Be as shallow as you want, but expect to be single for longer. Just a piece of advice though, date around what you think is just below your expectations, to everything way above them. There are many great women and men in that interval, some really funny and some absolute freaks. Some both. Sometimes you share hobbies so they become extremely comfortable to be around fast as well. You might be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:56 PM
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If you're actively having sex many years later it's because something is being done right. On the other hand every ONS I hear about from both guys and girls are always: "Well we did it, it was okay", Then nothing else. Never: "I did anal for the first time". All of those situations come from LTRs
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:46 PM
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This is pretty much spot on how I feel. Sadly "Love" is hard to explain to someone who hasn't experienced it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:37 PM
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Is relationship sex starfish sex? Did I miss the memo?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 10:29 PM
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Learn the basic scientific method
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/21 12:08 AM
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Different country here, we don't have that issue, there are no laws affecting choabitation before you marry or make a specific agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 11:12 PM
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For people that aresocially awkward it could make it break an early relationship. It bothers me when I hear about cases where women don't actually make the first move on their crush. I hope you find yours :D
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 11:04 PM
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Once again, people like you make me feel so good about myself. Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 10:45 PM
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I've never met that is not instantly charmed by a girl asking them out. Especially if they're even remotely cute.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 09:50 PM
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Not shamed enough. People can still live after abusing their children or beating their partner. When women do it men don't care and are still willing to take them as partners because thirst and when men do it women don't care and are still willing to take them as partners because dark triad bullshit gets tingles. Sure it's not shamed enough, but it won't help, people will just be more secretive. It's like saying that the death penalty is a good deterrent for crime. Unintended consequences includ…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 07:18 PM
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Considering that child abuse and domestic violence are illegal, I think they're pretty shamed as is. Infidelity is also shamed. Shaming these don't work, people just do them in secret. Only difference here is that it's very hard to divorce someone in secret, so the rates of the bad shit you can keep secret will just increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 06:19 PM
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Make all women that complain about a guy they like not hitting on her go hit on him first. Not sure how much of a silver bullet it is, but it's a pet peeve of mine when I hear about women being interested, but refusing to take the first step. I've known too many women like that and I'm always annoyed at them when I hear this.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 06:07 PM
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They predispose themselves to dying early, if you're looking for a LTR that's unattractive and I'm also not attracted to women that weigh more than me. Attraction is still very important in a LTR. Do they deserve any of the vitriol they get here? No. Fat shaming simply doesn't work, you risk having more fat people in the long run and it's a problematic thing that should be a focus among health experts. Both mental health and physical. So even from a completely selfish standpoint, you don't want …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 05:57 PM
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I'd rather not put words in your mouth, so it's better if you elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 05:51 PM
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And you're as science denying as it gets. Telling men to "Buck up" makes more men commit suicide, just admit you're fine with it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 05:49 PM
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I’m legitimately sorry that you’ve succumbed so hard to the ideology that men are victimized by society. Is that my ideology? Surely just saying that certain masculine traits are correlated with suicide isn't ideological. It's just one simple fact that's extensively tested. This must be really hard for you to live this way. This is actually embarrassing to see a fellow man so failed by his own life that he has succumbed to the depression of being a man. I'm very happy being a man, but I guess it…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 02:39 PM
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At least we both know you have no actual counter to what multiple studies are saying, you could just admit that you feel it's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 02:07 PM
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What's "already married"? We're simply not, neither by law nor by some religious reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 01:49 PM
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There’s nothing to admit, nothing you are saying has merit. You discredit yourself with every single comment. Just because you say this doesn't make it true. I know it feels that way, but facts don't care about your feelings. If you want to you can find another study, or maybe this study. There's multiple. I have yet to find one that goes against me here. If you want to, you can go and search in google scholar: "Male suicide masculinity" if you wish. You don’t even appear to actually have your o…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 01:47 PM
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Men are told to feel bad about being men. Try and read the study I linked. That's not what it says, not even remotely. Just admit to not being capable of rejecting it and strawmanning what claims are being made. You need to actually read a study to be remotely able to reject it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 12:26 PM
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Considering we've been living together for 8+ years I'm not too worried about her asking for more. And the level of support you get from a relationship is just much more than others are willing to invest time or emotions into, there's no "game" you need to play, and you can just relax in each others presence. Not sure what "more" you want to push for, we've agreed to kids when we buy a house, which is something we both want. Getting married is not something we really care about besides for the s…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 12:19 PM
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Lol dude, society has done nothing but tell men they need to feel inherently bad about being men, and nothing you can do short of emasculating everything about you and submitting can fix you, and you actually link “science” about how men are sad when they are told to act like men. It's true that society needs to stop making men feel bad about being men, but if you did a quick read of that study, what it said had nothing to do with that. It said that an increase in masculinity was linked to a low…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 10:21 AM
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You vastly overestimate what “science” means. You really underestimate what it means That’s not a gotcha term like you all think it is. Studies are consistently built upon validating their views on the position. Don't you mean that studies are something that keeps proving your worldview wrong, so instead of changing your views you're just angry at them? You know studies use a statistical approach that can't be recalculated so you can invent a "bias" as well? Stop looking for excuses to victimize…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 09:28 AM
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Fundamentally incorrect? If science agrees with me, by definition that's wrong. Gonna have to show me which scientific fundamentals you base yourself on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 09:10 AM
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There are lots of people out there completely happy with casual sex, let's not let others ruin it for them. They just got to make sure they don't hurt others as well and I'm good.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:43 AM
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I didn't know you knew my ideology. And I was copy pasting your comment because it fit perfectly with your hypocritical tone when you can't counter the study I linked, but just stated it was biased blindly.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:41 AM
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Love? Tons of men enjoy love, commitment and the happiness that comes from it if it's mutual. 2020 definitely sucked more for most others than it did for me, I've been in the company of my gf, I've been able to have fun, talk, have sex and more to a much higher degree than I would have as single. If I'm down she'll support me and reverse. Many times she's stepped up to listen to my problems at length when something bad has happened elsewhere. Most men that I know get tons out of their relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:39 AM
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Most marriages that end in divorce are re-offenders. Don't marry someone that's been married before, especially if it's more than once
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/21 08:26 AM
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You might be correct here, I'm probably gonna have to read up on behaviour like this in connection to trauma more. Sounds like an interesting topic overall imo
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 07:33 PM
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I won't even state for sure if it's a habit that worsens all pre-existing issues. It probably does for most people, but for some it might be a way they alleviate pain. Hyper-Sexuality is a symptom of a deeper cause (I know of one woman that became like that after rape, and can't go for long periods without sex without becoming extremely suicidal), but it's not always certain it worsens symptoms. If I were to guess it would in a majority of cases, but that's pure guesswork. But yes, people with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 06:43 PM
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Did I mention a gender, or a majority of that gender? You mentioned women in your very first comment, and you criticized this person over what "Women" do. You're gaslighting so hard it's a forest fire with this one. See above I repeat, forest fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 06:39 PM
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Pray do tell, how? He says that "HVM" cheat, and that they should. 1st is a lie, second is encouraging hurting your spouse. If someone ends up hurting their wife/gf over his videos that's a direct negative impact. Yes, cause that's what neutral means No, neutral means that it has no impact. Seriously? Yes seriously, he was a commie. Utalitarianism is not Communism. Another bad choice... Not really. Correct, and it's usage, although subjective, is important. Good. We. Can. Agree. That. Reading. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 06:38 PM
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True. Bad ethics = immoral, which is weird for someone who is arguing a moral point. KS is obviously Immoral. Whilst me criticizing him over low info on the internet is neutral as fuck. You really need to take a course on ethics Argue through ethics how I am being immoral by criticizing someone on low information, at worst once again it's neutral. It's not causing harm, nor is it causing good. You're standing up for ethics used by the worst people on this planet? Are you serious? "One death is a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:12 PM
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Yeah, that’s what most people say when they don’t have anything to back up their foolish argument they tried to make without any substance. Create a counter argument or sit down.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:03 PM
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You didn't understand what I was saying at all, you used this as a counterargument to a single individual. I don't care what these people said. Who buys those books, men? Because I know of no man who read; "Act like a lady, think like a man". Is that a majority of women? If 0.1% of American women bought that book he'll be rich lol. You speak of informal, but obviously that's only a standard for you. Who makes up the vast majority of their audiences? Who cares lol, once again, if .1% of American …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 05:01 PM
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"Science is biased against my opinions" is what I'm reading here. We're just anti-science now? I guess that's all two day all accounts are worth.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:52 PM
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I never mentioned "all women", you did and then implied that it was I. Gaslighting much? Supply the quote "Women had zero issues taking relationship advice from Oprah and Wendy Williams. Williams who openly told a woman, on TV, to baby trap he husband.... Or making Steve Harvey and Derrick Jaxn very rich, with their crappy advice. Judge and you will be judged." This person judged, and you said she will be judged, but the only people you judged were "Women" in the most general sense. No, the hous…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:49 PM
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You must not pay attention to the news. Out of things that interest me, military news out of America is ridicolously far down on the list. I read my news in a seperate language entirely often. The rest of what you said is just feeding into the victimization and emasculation of men. Pretty sad actually. You’re very lucky a large amount of men aren’t feeding into this nonsense, honestly. You’ll be begging them for help when things go bad. At least I brought up a source for why what you're saying i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:14 PM
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OMG I thought you were a different person, I apologize. I thought you were teh one I initially responded to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:07 PM
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Not judging someone on hearsay for a start? Bad ethics is not the same as no ethics. Luckily judging a stranger on the internet has about impact in the long run when it comes to Utalitarianism Ethics. So it's ethically neutral at worst lol. It's NOT a common denominator, when it's an outlier Sure, whatever you want to say, the only outlier here is you. And being the singular one makes me automatically incorrect? When it's such a large sample size? Probably. At best, not worst As I said, purely f…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 11:15 AM
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Do pregnant women get to fly fighter Jets? I don't see the point, in 9 maybe 18 months of her life a military woman can't fly the jet, so what lol. Men need to learn to buck up though, this whole victim mentality generation is a disaster. Sure. Let me find some data, and I'll hope you agree that "bucking up" is a masculine trait here. Men Bucking up is literally hurting their mental health. Men who suicide already have mental health issues far beyond reality, and that’s a bad faith argument to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 11:01 AM
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Gaslight? I haven't denied anything You're the one who said someone criticized a dating coach, and countered it with "Women" like if women are some single entity. Criticizing an individual for what others in their sex might or might not do is ridiculous. And a Casino, do you mean listening to him is a mistake and a waste of money?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 10:31 AM
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It's just fun to me see someone attacking one person's stance as "You women" as if they're a single entity.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 10:26 AM
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Yes. And he's worthless in attacking all women like you did. He's tiny
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 10:24 AM
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Yes, but what comes first is extremely important in a discussion like this. Because if casual sex leads to mental issues that's an important avenue for psychology to look at with why casual sex does that to someone. And saying that sex without love comes with mental health risks for men as well (as it seemed results were similar based on gender) could be a weird change in what people believe about men generally. If not we can treat the problem of the mental illness, and there will be less casual…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 10:23 AM
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Protecting women and children is a healthy mentality. Men fight wars so they don’t have to. That is how it should be. In this world women can fight wars as well. In fact it'd be stupid to remove half of your opportunities for soldiers when 99% of the fighting is with guns anyway. I also see nothing wrong with expecting men to buck up also. There’s way too much male victimization going on right now, if you really do want to go there. But that’s not really the point, but I know it’s the direction …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:39 AM
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At least we know you strawman all women based upon some popular dating coaches. When you inevitably respond with the angry smileys again I won't respond, so take it easy, your anger can rest after your next response to this comment <3
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:36 AM
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Bullshit You can watch him yourself :) Yet you're taking someone else's word, you haven't even listened to his viewpoint... I did. I lost 10 minutes of my life of the guy not being capable of making a single good point. All of it was that women just had to live with it, because even Beyonce did! Sigh. You speak of ethics, yet judge someone on hearsay? That by definition means you have no ethics... You don't know what ethics are, good god And I was even right. His take IS garbage. He says that hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:32 AM
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When you gain some experience with the internet young one, you'll learn that one of the most classic signs of anger is answering what your opponent is saying with nothing but smileys. It's just a hint for future discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/21 12:01 AM
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No Yes. He believes it's okay to cheat on your wife if you're what he believes is a HVM. That's unethical as fuck. Maslow's theory missed you.. Sure. I hope you can tell me exactly how next time. Every time I've had someone bring up random theories in a completely unrelated discussion to attack me though, it's always been some old ass dude that is projecting it onto me. So fair warning. Simply - yes. Correct - no Yeah. Cheating is unethical. To cheat is actively hurting someone. Purely from an e…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:57 PM
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Not much, by the looks of it, but you're willing to argue a point you know nothing about... Oh I know that you don't know either lol Oprah and Wendy? You seriously need numbers? Yes. Because we're talking about the first comment you made, where you attacked all women based upon who some women follow the relationship advice of. As I was speaking of the coaches, what have their followers got to do with it? Because that's the entire point we're discussing in the first place. Do you want a reminder …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:46 PM
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Do you really believe that 40% of women are marrying men with HS diplomas or High school drop out? That's not what I said there. But if you want I can say that roughtly 40% of women between ages 23 and 32 marry people with an average wage around a HS diploma level. +-3k In my country, a gender studies degree doesn't make you earn 80k. I still find it hard to believe but I'm too lazy to dig in to have the truth of it. It was on the top of google for America. I dunno which country you are from, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:38 PM
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Enlightened as to your false beliefs about what he said, not the message he spouts.. But my belief was right. Not much to be enlightened by, I was surely just simply correct. Dirtbag was a dirtbag. And why would anyone use the word "Enlightened" for anything besides their cultleader? o.o That's insanely creepy. Is English your first language? Do you have an IQ larger than your shoe size? It's the gaslight then. Sadly your age surpassed your IQ a decade ago. There's no way you believe what was be…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:34 PM
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Because I believe that women with bachelors don't tend to date men with only HS diploma. When women marry down they marry someone who has a higher diploma than HS (basically someone who went to college) simply not as high as them. Well, someone who did some college but not Bachelor, barely earns more than people with a HS diploma. So I don't see the real difference. I choose gender studies to give an example about some random diploma that sends you directly to the unemployment line. Sure, but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:27 PM
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Try harder. Are Oprah and Wendy: not black women? among the most popular relationship/life coaches? The fuck do I know? Surely you have the numbers on hand on how popular they are an how many black women listen to them, when you're willing to strawman all women with their coaches. I know, but she's NOT married, is she? Yet she gives marriage advice... That's the most worthless statement ever. Long term cohabitation and Marriage only has one realistic difference: The fact that one couple wears a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:19 PM
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Because women don't want men that much... So by choice... Women want men more than enough to join in relationships with them. If you're wondering why this happens it's got to do with a hardcore case of loneliness. It's not because women just keep themselves away by choice. For God's sake learn to read and stop putting words in my mouth. It's just baffling to have no reading comprehension to this level. You put words in my mouth by saying I only compared to a high school dropout. For God's sake l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:09 PM
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Who says I take his advice? You're the one who asked me to listen to him to be "enlightened". Surely you don't think someone can cause "Enlightenment" without believing in it yourself. Or are you gonna gaslight me on this now? I'm curious Firstly, at my age, being called boy is just weird Firstly, at my gender, being called girl is just weird. I think for anyone that thinks that's a good insult are mentally on the level of boys. When did listening to different views and viewpoints, become idoliz…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:04 PM
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Women are sexless by choice. You mean they are sexless when it comes to ONS by choice. Most single women want to be in a sexual relationship. But relationships just seem to happen less with this generation. My point here was the fact that having higher education doesn't mean you make more money. Of course, if you compare bachelors to high school drop out... I wasn't comparing High school dropout. And I'm pretty sure that 40% of women aren't dating high school drop out. I even mentioned a high sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:55 PM
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Projecting much? Uh, if I was projecting surely you could find people saying almost the exact same thing as me, with the same people mentioned and the same issues from the same people. Read what I wrote and try comprehending it... I tried, but saying "Most popular" isn't actually a number. To comprehend shit like this you need numbers. Didn't he just cheat on his wife? So that lumps him in the the other failed coaches. Sure. Btw I just checked. Oprah has a long term partner since 1986 to today. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:49 PM
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Nice of you to be condescending while you're taking life advice from a shitty human being, I guess boys like you have too big of an ego to have their horrible idols questioned.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:46 PM
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I never say that actually. I was saying that Hypergamy isn't on its way down. Now, you want to believe that it's the case when at the same time more and more men are sexless and single every day, it's fine. I just not think so. Of course it's on its way down if more women are dating down income wise. More women are sexless as well lol. This current generation just has less sex. I never say any of that, to begin with. Once again you're putting words in my mouth and spinning your own narrative. Ah…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:43 PM
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I was giving you an example. I wasn't giving you advice. When discussing examples about real life relationships I was talking about income, not degree. We're not talking about the same thing. Only 30% of wives OUTEARN their husbands. That's all I'm saying. You can have a bachelors and having a low-wage job. That's actually one of the many socio-economics issues of our time. 38% in 2018, fitting with the numbers I gave on education very well. They are extremely highly correlated, that's not a fac…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:24 PM
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Statements out of context have no meaning, that's grown up 101. Give me his direct quote with context. If? So you have zero clue, but willingly judge others on hearsay? Talk about sheep... Oh no, I am deciding perfectly for myself that I'm not okay with cheating. EDIT: I listened to his "points". I did confirm for myself that I am better than him. Thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 10:01 PM
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Or maybe, it's trained in because you're on the same propaganda train. Now: I didn't know that all women were black women How popular is "most popular" 5% of black women? 10%? 50%? What's the number, I need them. Most popular could easily be 5-10%. Derrick Jaxn has 750k subs on youtube, surely you're smart enough to not put him in the same category as the others here.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:59 PM
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It depends on what you call romance. I gave the example of Claire and Francis Underwood, I'm not sure that when people think about a romantic relationship, they envision the Underwoods. I didn't know we should be using fictional characters to base our real relationships on. That sounds like a bad idea. Not as much as you believe. CITATIONS. Here we can see that over 40% of women between 23 and 32 years old with a bachelors are married to people without one I dunno what you mean by "Not as much a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:52 PM
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Odd how you're interested in judging someone sans knowledge... Did he not make a statement like the one in the OP claims? That's enough knowledge for me to know he's a scumbag lol Or not. No, if the claim above is true I'm sticking to my guns on that one. He's ethically a shithead.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:37 PM
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You literally posted an extremely similar thing as another guy right above. Either you're on the same propaganda train or you're the same account. For your sake I hope it's the same account, if not you're in a cult lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:37 PM
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People who would fit that criteria marry who they love. If they marry for any other reason they're literally hurting themselves. And surely an idiot is pretty unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:32 PM
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You posted this on both of your accounts
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:17 PM
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I didn't know the people taking advice from them were all women. TIL
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:15 PM
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Not interested in listening to anyone that thinks cheating is okay as long as you earn above a certain income. Seems like I just risk confirming to myself that I'm better than him. Not worth my time
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:13 PM
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I never implied that there is more chance for divorce with this kind of woman. You said that that a relationship with an educated woman isn't a "real" romantic relationship, but more like a deal. Unless you're implying that most college educated married women aren't married out of love, I can't help that. Especially for 20+ years lol. Only 30% of women outearn their husband. And when we talk about marrying down we talk about income, not education. And that's something that's still on the rise an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:07 PM
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College educated women are more likely to marry down in education and it's been trending in that direction for a while, so I don't think hypergamy is as huge as TRP wants us to believe. One anecdote doesn't really fix that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 07:08 PM
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Even the psychology today article said what I said. They don't know what comes first.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:27 PM
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Wealthy is not the same as rich though, wealthy is a step above.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:22 PM
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You're making conclusions these articles aren't. They're not saying that casual sex is causing mental distress. They're saying there's a correlation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 06:06 PM
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It's still not really wealth though, Best difference between wealthy and rich that I've heard is: Rich is being able to afford one or two fancy cars and a big house. Wealthy is the one that buys a yacht, sends it into a mountain, and buys a new one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:52 PM
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I'm a "bluepill" but I've spotted at least one in the wild before. She was a colleague, she would actively try and flirt with people working there to get what she wanted. As in, she'd ask for something and then do the one of the purest PUA moves I've seen in my life lol. Get in close, grab your arm and pull you a little bit closer while trying to ask for a different task. She was pretty, so I guess she was used to that move working and causing a lot of fluster. Fuck even I could tell my heartbea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:26 PM
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Sounds good. Tbh most people who would watch something like that doesn't sound like someone that earns six figures in the first place. I bet the men that call this out aren't his target audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:16 PM
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When was 120k wealthy? That's like upper-middle class at best And is this the same rule for men and wealthy women I assume? That a man married to a wealthy woman should expect cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:10 PM
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It sounds like a cheater that is trying to justify cheating. He doesn't care about anyone else, he just thinks he deserves to fuck any woman he wants, and that his wife/gf should let him. We could probably discuss how self-justification works in psychology, but likely this guy needs mental health help, or to stop grifting.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 05:01 PM
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Are you sure you know this person's father better than they do? Just spitballing that instead of asking them why their father dresses like a slob, you jump straight to an assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:45 PM
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College educated women have an 8 in 10 chance of staying married two decades later This compared to marriages overall, that have a 50% chance of lasting. It just seems weird to say that they're not looking for a husband. They might be more stubborn when it comes to one, but they are way more likely to last. And they have in fact started "marrying down" educationally according to this 2012 study. Which means that very likely, they don't need money from their partner to make them happy. Next, wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 04:29 PM
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This is fair. More sex toys for men, less shame about them is always good. I'd rather be able to discuss which sex toy I prefer and what's good, than having to google and find dodgy forums to figure out what I might like. Anyone who sees a man owning a sex toy as lame or creepy needs to stop. I wish for the day when it becomes a neutral act for both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 12:27 PM
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I don't fit any labeling completely. On a US scale, economically I'm socialist (on a French scale I'm liberal) in what I define as capitalist with strong state intervention, a bit like China economically speaking. There's no country scale of what a Socialist or Liberal is, it's just misuse and not misuse. And believe me if you're a French liberal you're not even remotely like China. China has actual slave labour, not this problem you're on about. You compare slavery to living in a box, but some …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 11:36 AM
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Work is bodily autonomy. You work with your body. Work is decided by the market, you have limited choice. Slaves could choose among proposed tasks too. You can chose to give up, but then you have to find another job among the proposed tasks. You are biased. Just as a curiousity based question, there are two groups that make this argument. Liberterians and communists. Which one is it that fits this the most for you (I know you're just arguing for the sake of argument btw)? Because comparing worki…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:50 AM
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Slavery is bodily autonomy as well, and you can't choose your job, where you live, or to not show up one day. This definition of slavery you're using is what's biased. Stop it. And why would a celibate woman pay reperations to a celibate man? Because men suffer more? I guess Ace man get paid good money from ace women in your world.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:19 AM
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Yes NRE makes sex something you have a lot. That does not mean you lose interest in sex after. Most couples still have sex a few times a month. If a couple does barely have sex at all (think like twice a year), there might be signs of a much bigger issue. Of course, some couples just have a lower libido, but that low is very uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 09:12 AM
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Is that linked to promiscuity? A billion changes have happened the past decades that could be the cause for increased depression. Why do you think it's promiscuity?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 08:56 AM
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But men have higher birth rates though, roughly 105 boys to 100 girls. In fact any society where we have equal life expectancy for men and women we see that men outnumber women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 08:50 AM
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No you compared tax here to slavery and torture. And you know that a form of torture is rape right? It's literally a method they use in the Chinese camps to torture them. Trying to force someone to pay sex duty is just rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 08:39 AM
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You can disagree But actual slave and torture victims that you're comparing yourself to with this victimization would do anything to just work a normal job, pay taxes and go home for the day. If you think they're so even there is some Chinese propaganda about uighur concentration camps I can sell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 03:02 AM
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Holy shit, you need to learn what the difference between an idea band opposing an idea is. AWALT is wrong. Everyone agrees. Good. AWALT is that all women are hypergamous. Now TBP can agree that is not the case, but if you ask TBP if women can be hypergamous (or how many are) you might get different answers. Surprisingly different. Disagreeing with AWALT does not mean that TBP is the complete opposite of it. Tbp believes you shouldn't neg yes, but the reasoning can go: "It doesn't work", "It only…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:59 AM
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Man "a system of ideas and ideals, especially one which forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy." You can't make a system of ideas and ideals by being against something. Once again I ask you, go to a philosophy major. Ask them if being against an ideology is an ideology in itself. The answer might surprise you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:38 AM
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You're not a slave if you get taxed. A slave doesn't have bodily autonomy either. We also know that taxes do not inflict severe pain or suffering. So it's not torture. I know, very biased, but the oxford dictionary is just like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:30 AM
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Believing a system of ideas is wrong is not a system of ideas in itself. Bascism is not an ideology. It does believe that fascism is wrong. I wonder how many ideologies people must follow by your logic, just by the virtue of not agreeing with other ideologies.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:29 AM
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Sorry, but here is where we miss each other. The blue pill is no longer "satire" but instead a muted type of "incel" group. No different than TRP has become infiltrated by a different group of incels. This claim needs more proof than just the fact that they're opposed. The blue pill is a movement and you have aligned yourself with that movement but I do understand you better. You are sort of a "first wave blue pill" (analogy from me) and I am a "first wave red pill". Ironically enough, you and I…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:19 AM
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I think there's a big difference between expecting someone to have sex with a person they don't want to vs expecting them not to have sex with a bunch of people they do want to. ???? People will have to have sex with people they don't want to, if you want to give everyone sex that needs it. The only solution I can think of is that we have sex workers that are capable of taking any of these jobs sponsored. But good luck getting that number of sex workers high enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:09 AM
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If you regulate some contracts (jobs or welfare) to alleviate for gender inequalities, but refuse to regulate other gender unequal contracts (sex), then you are having a biased response to gender inequality. I've been down this route already so I will do it in short: Bodily autonomy + The right to not get tortured > Money Not comparable as the left side is invaluable.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:04 AM
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Man, I am making an analogy. I know it's hard to follow, but bear with me here, I know you don't have the brainpower so I will make this really braindead. Fascism = ideology. TRP = ideology People that are Liberals, commies, cons and socdems go together and form a satire group called "Bascism". They shit on fascists. People that are liberals, feminists and egalitarians all join hands and make "TBP". They shit on TRP. Neither TBP nor Bascism is an ideology in this case. Disagreeing with an ideolo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 02:01 AM
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To agree on something being wrong is not an ideology. Wtf are you smoking. "Fascism is bad" Said the communist, liberal, conservative and Social Democrat. This does not mean that they have the same ideology. It just means that all of them agree that one Ideology is bad. Do you want to argue that a Liberal, communist, conservative and Social Democrat all follow the same ideology now? They're all opposed to Fascism.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:49 AM
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It's not. You can't build an ideology out of simply disagreeing with an ideology. And you say "pathetic" so much, is that an insecurity you have? Do you feel pathetic now that you know you're wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:43 AM
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I challenge you to ask any philosophy major: "Is not believing in a theory its own theory?" After that, you've fed the hamster with all the straw from the strawmen you made already. It's getting fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:29 AM
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Rights only exist because we agree on them and what they are. Yes. That's true. Meaningful sexual relationships are pretty important to a fulfilling life, more or less so, depending on the person. Yes, but to fulfill that right, you'd also have to take away someone else's right to not be subjected to cruel or inhuman treatment. The PAYMENT of money is an action, and we have rules in place to make sure everyone gets enough, so they can live fulfilling lives. Taking that money does not take away a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/21 01:26 AM
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It's not an ideology to agree with others that something is wrong. The fact that you believe this still blows my mind. Completely seperate ideologies and ethical philosophies can come to the same conclusion without sharing an ideology. Being in agreement that one ideology is wrong is not in itself an ideology. Which is what you're postulating here and it's really dumb. Stop being a fucking idiot man. Have some fucking pride and stand behind what you wrote. I'm standing behind everything I wrote.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 11:55 PM
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That's not my principles, your strawman of me says that that's my principles. My principles lead me to say that TRP is wrong, both ethically (What tactics they employ) and factually (What they believe about women). EDIT: What they generally believe about women is just not something they have proven. It's not really difficult to understand this concept. It's not TBP that leads me to say that TRP is wrong. Nor is it what leads anyone that are BP to say TRP is wrong. Look, just because you don't un…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 11:44 PM
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These claims are not analogous. Money =/= Sex. Money is a resource. Sex is an action. I really can't see these things as similar and thus we can't discuss this as analogous. Sex isn't a human right. Money is something we need to safely maintain a lot of human rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 11:31 PM
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The pandemic is what triggered the insane economic downturn though, and it got even worse with the bad response. Other countries with better responses are doing way better today.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 11:07 PM
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Just look at all the "step bro, I'm stuck" porn out there. Or any porn. Or the way men go for younger women. The problem with the example you're using is that it's kind of a refutaiton in itself. What is popular in porn is what the big studios are paying the big pornsites to commercialize. After that Porn preferences changes quite a lot between countries. "Nice guys finish last" is not just a meme. Default femininity is repulsed by male vulnerability. Nice guys finish last is a saying because "N…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 10:35 PM
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I said that TBP is an ideology and you got butthurt. Trp is a theory. TBP is a theory. No. I said it's not an ideology and not a theory. The fucking dictionary says it's a theory. Move on little one. What you linked did NOT point out that it was a theory. In fact what you linked had jack shit to do with proving that disagreeing with a theory is in fact a theory. You act more like an incel than a man. It's ok, you don't stand for anything. Once again that's so weird lol, I've done nothing that sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 10:29 PM
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We can't really make guesses, considering 2020 was so different it's not worth discussing as a part of a greater trend. We will feel the ripple for a while, but it's not like the Murder rate here went up for this much any other reason than economic and pandemic. Karl Popper is the father of the scientific theory. It's nothing we need to get into, so no worries. He's got a few fun reads though (Not that I've read them through lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 10:27 PM
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Oh buddy, you are truly pathetic. Keep it up, I'm sure you can prove that you're not stupid if you just keep misusing words long enough! a supposition or a system of ideas intended to explain something, especially one based on general principles independent of the thing to be explained. "Darwin's theory of evolution" a set of principles on which the practice of an activity is based. "a theory of education" an idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action. "my theory would be…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 10:20 PM
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I guess you've accepted that 2020 might be a bit special and is just being sarcastic? I honestly don't know after so many weird statements being made on this sub. Just earlier I had somebody redefine the word Theory for me, so violently that I wonder if Popper is crying.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 10:12 PM
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Ah we're on the: "Short insult without answering what he said" part. I wonder how many times you can go down this route. But I still want to know where disagreeing with a theory was a theory in itself. Especially when this theory is not scientifically accepted that's one of the most hilarious statements I've heard so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 10:10 PM
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What? You're just strawmanning positions and then saying taht I don't stand by your strawman. I am wondering though, which philosopher did you read that said that being against a theory is a theory in itself? Preferably a pure quote from the philosopher you're talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 10:02 PM
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Eh, what Terpers want is individual even among them. Imo the problem is that no matter what they want they still apply the same bs
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 09:40 PM
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Call Karl Popper, because you have built upon his philosophical method by saying that disbelief in a theory is a theory after a certain amount of variables. I bet you could power a small country with all this misuse of the word theory just by the power of his grave turning!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 09:36 PM
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Sorry, I didn't think that people still thought that TBP is satire. Sorry, it is no longer satire. I'm sorry, didn't know you were the one who defined satire. The name of TBP is satirical and they're just talking about people being abusive in TRP and making fun of them/feeling bad for victims. Can the beliefs of the TBP be proven? Are there beliefs of TBP besides: "TRP is dumb"? Where does the red pill say to lift TOO much weights? Jesus you are bad at this. I never said that, I just mentioned w…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 07:00 PM
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Well, TRP is theory. TBP is everything TRP doesn't stand for. That's not how satire works lol, being against an overall theory doesn't mean they don't agree on certain facts. Them disagreeing on the conclusion doesn't mean they're opposites in everything. TBP is just satire, ascribing theory to them is dumb. you understand that all of TRP and as such, TBP is theory and not actually provable. TBP isn't theory because it says another theory is wrong. Saying: "I don't agree with Theory X" does not …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 06:45 PM
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It really isn't. You gave me the definition of an ideology earlier, can you explain to me what "Theory" TBP has that fits an ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 06:35 PM
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TBP doesn't form a social theory, I dunno why you're so adamant it's an ideology. It's like saying Atheism is a religion. It's just silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 05:24 PM
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Tbp neither forms the basis of my political or economic policy thoughts. Not sure why it should lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 05:00 PM
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If you think TBP is an ideology you need to read up on what an ideology is. Just because it has a name does not mean it's an ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:49 PM
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You really are trying this line of attack huh? The difference between you and me is that I didn't need a random internet forum to tell me what I should believe, and that's why you're funny to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:44 PM
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There's a ton. A quick search gave me this, which I think ive seen someone link before This link is about a dating app and does not reflect marriage or cohabitation rates This does not prove Hypergamy is something even close to all women do. A quick google search gives the wiki on this and shows the US census for Black husbands and white wives in 2009 to be a majority of Black and white interracial married couples to be black man/white woman. Here
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:40 PM
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I stand for things on my own, what are you even on about? Just because I like satirizing TRP doesn't mean I don't have other opinions besides "TRP bad". I guess the strawman makes it easier for you to deal with me though, want to make other assumptions? I'm all ears
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:35 PM
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No, its just proof that the asian dude is really high value in some way... mayb hes got a ton of money or is really good looking, because for a women to go for them and go against statistics, then something has to justify this. Maybe the fact that an individual doesn't a statistic make? And stats are built up of several different factors which make an average? And I don't even know what your "stat" is based on in the first place. I mean just go look at the hapas subreddit. Its fucking miserable.…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:11 PM
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I believe TRP is worth making fun of. That's it. It's like making fun of a cult or MLM, I feel bad for the members, but the general shit they do is also shitty enough that I don't feel bad looking at some satire. That's why I believe the blue pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:02 PM
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I would wager that their theories actually apply to a minority of women, but they keep using AWALT so it's annoying to hear about. My guess is that most women just don't want to be lonely and are dating to figure out who they can go long-term with and have some fun on the way. But instead it's all about "locking down a beta with lots of money who can provide for them", after they have been riding the alpha dicks in their youth of course. Sigh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 04:02 PM
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Sure. You are correct I should have used compatibility, but I was writing out a long comment without proof-reading it first. But you also accused me of not giving any advice, which I did. So eh, at least read the entire thing before you accuse me of things, thanks. I really hope you communicate better with your LTR.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:58 PM
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It really isn't anything else. That's the definition. Anyone tries to tell you the definition is something else has an agenda surrounding TRP, good or bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:53 PM
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There is no such thing as "LTR attraction". You know what I meant, as you explained it perfectly after :D, of course seeing if you're compatible is way more than just attraction. Do you even LTR? Do you even know what it takes to keep an LTR going? Yes, I'm in a LTR and have been for close to a decade. I've spent about one third of my life. You can in fact read the rest of what I said and I've written more about it, but nice of you to hyperfocus on that and forget everything else I wrote, when e…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:51 PM
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Heard of "AWALT"?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:46 PM
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Satirical name for people who thinks TRP is silly. After that people try and give them a lot of beliefs that they may or may not have, but the only real truth is: "TRP is worth satirizing".
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:45 PM
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Blue pill people believe different things That's the entire point. The only thing we agree on is that TRP is definitely not it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:43 PM
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So an Asian man dating a white woman is proof that AWALT isn't true?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 03:41 PM
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This might be true that most men think younger women are hotter, but there's a lot of men that won't date that young anyway, as they look for more in a woman than just youth. It's tbh a shitty attitude towards men to say that they only go for certain looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 02:44 PM
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Then I feel bad for you. A lot of people I met told me the same things, to work on myself and focus on myself first. No-one ever told me to "just be nice". Though the "Just be yourself" attitude I have heard before, and whenever I hear people say that today I tell them they need to work on their advice. Working out is mostly just to build up your self-esteem anyway, which is by far the most important one. I know of some buttugly guys that keep getting women, just thanks to their self-esteem and …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 02:42 PM
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I think TRP can't just be refused. There is A LOT of truth behind it. All those evolutionary traits make perfectly sense. I know it. You know it. And if you disagree, you're probably giving up some rationality for a worldview that better correlates to your ideals and hopes. Evolutionary psychology is not good enough to be standalone as an explanation for everything in how we work socially. And as long as TRP keeps believing this, I'll keep saying they're refusing to learn everything about psycho…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 11:16 AM
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I appreciate all the things you're saying about me, it's always good to hear stuff like this And I'll say it's fine to be vulnerable as long as you feel safe with it, as that's the only real way to move forward socially in my experience. I would say you shouldn't worry about being anxious with it, but that's sadly not how anxiety works in the first place, so all I can say is you don't deserve to be anxious about it. Being open about my problems has helped me my entire life, and I hope it does th…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 10:58 AM
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Hey thanks for adding this! Appreciated, I would use untreated (or even undiagnosed). Unresolved means that it's something they're still struggling with, even if they're treating it. I lost an argument with another guy because of my misunderstanding of the medical term earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 10:48 AM
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Yeah I believe her point is fine, I just have a problem with that and the title of the OP calling everyone she is about to list low value. It might be a mistake, but I think it's important to know. And I'm sorry to hear about that, I know a few people in my life that has had similar problems and it can be heartbreaking to see someone you care about suffer, when you feel like you can do so little yourself. It is also true that nobody goes out looking for a partner thinking: "I prefer people with …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 09:46 AM
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I think this is pretty much spot on, have good maternity and paternity leave and I believe the differences will probably go down between the two groups (Looking at you America).
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 09:27 AM
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I just wish the OP didn't call people with mental illness low value, I think it hurts way more people than it helps. And really good people can struggle with mental illness. You can't tell me that many men here wouldn't fall over themselves to go on a date with Emma Stone, even though she suffers from panic attacks. Or Kristen Bell, who has suffered from Depression. Mental illness can cause people to make bad choices in their partner, but it doesn't mean that they're a bad partner themselves. ED…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 09:13 AM
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This has seemed to be a thing with sex workers during AMAs as well, that and lonely people. Not neccesarily unattractive people. I'm sure there's a sizeable chunk of old men there as well, but I really would preferably see some numbers on this before we make any conclusions. Anecdotes can change violently from city to city, state to state or country to country.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 09:06 AM
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I dunno, I think she might be attacking both women and men that date each other at that level, but that would be better for her to clarify than for us to argue about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 08:57 AM
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That one showed 24% of young women in Britain. Not One fourth of the population, that's 1/8th of the population aged 17-19 and is half of the comment I made earlier. I was of course basing the "25% of the population" on women alone as well, as the other guy said the majority of women were unstable (Since most people can't find nice stable women implies that most women are unstable). I should probably have added in the last comment that it would be 25% of the total population if you made the assu…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 08:55 AM
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The rise of murders, in 2020? It has actively been going down besides 3 years the last 10 years? I wonder what happened in 2020 that might make it different from other years
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 08:49 AM
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Fair. You are correct here. My bad As for OP: She either made the same mistake as me or she attacked mentally ill women overall. With me just having made this mistake though I don't feel it's fair to say I can use this to attack anyone else, as that would be hypocritical as fuck. I hope you understand that
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 01:23 AM
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If only political opinions were enough for me to look good with my shirt off ;_;, or be comfortable to talk to during casual conversation as a new acquaintance. There's lots leftover to work with, being not garbage should be the bare minimum for both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 01:18 AM
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Depression is resolved mental illness. Resolved is synonymous with determined. Which means that they have diagnosed which type of mental illness it is. It does not mean it has been cured. You're mixing cured with resolved here. So no, not fair enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 01:05 AM
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I would tbh prefer it if TRP was right in this case, I'd feel a lot better about myself 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 01:00 AM
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Well I think what you wrote here is a misrepresentation of what I said, with a nice topping of not understanding that some people need anti-depressants. Nobody will be forced to take them. What I want is for men to be capable of going to the psychologist themselves without being looked down upon. Which 100% will lead to an increase in depression rates in official numbers, but it will be unchanged in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 12:40 AM
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Is there two categories or is there something down the middle? I bet you most humans aren't perfectly stable. I'm not getting together with them, I just come across a lot of unstable chicks. Well yeah, if you live in any bigger area, you're dommed to come across a lot of different types of people. A lot. Because that's just probability. I'm not using it as an attack on women, facts can't attack people, can they? If you read what I originally wrote, I was saying L.O.B. insulted the majority of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 12:37 AM
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Adress the argument not the arguer, we both know you can't, but at least try
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 12:32 AM
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Sure. Whatever you say dude, I'm sure happy the other guy never said something stupid, like that people should inject disinfectants or that a pandemic would go away by easter last year. At least we got him instead!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 12:29 AM
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The one that is supported by psychologists? Mental health issues not being adressed until they become severe, leads to more severe mental health issues. EXTREMELY childish I know. It's a bit like refusing to go to the doctor with a broken leg, and now it's become infected and you need to amputate it. Great! Missing a leg the rest of your life, when it could have healed perfectly well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 12:20 AM
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Take all the data as a whole and see the 2014 data was of women taking it in the last month and a significant portion had been on it for 10 years or longer. That trend certainly hasn't changed, and while yes, 2020 is special, that shit ain't going away anytime soon either. They're already predicting the mental anguish suffered will last for years... Well yes, a pandemic will do that to you. Like how a war will see mental anguish for decades after, I think this will be felt for quite a few years …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 12:15 AM
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I've written it a lot in neigbouring threads here, but if you look at the glossary they have and just cover: "AWALT", "Hypergamy" and "The wall" and you'll see a pretty quick image of something simply not being true. It might be true for a few women, but the way they assert all women are like this is just ridicolous and way off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 12:08 AM
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I remember that, it's stupid and shouldn't have been said. Luckily I don't base my politics one one off quotes amirite? :D
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 12:06 AM
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Maybe we can discuss problems with mental health? It being normal and mental health issues not being adressed with the way we live our lives today will cause more people to need anti-depressants. It's probably a good reason as to why less women commit suicide than men. Cus more men need anti-depressants.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 12:05 AM
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Most young women are fine for men their age, it's just silly how dumb it gets that men my age would want to date an 18 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 12:03 AM
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The increase in 2020 does not make women generally unstable though, as we can both agree 2020 was a bit of a special year. But I'd like to point this out when there's comparisons between men and women in mental health: Men are less likely to deal with their mental health issues, which is part of why men commit more suicide. So yes we can agree that this topic is a "Dark numbers" topic in the first place. But this seems to have been 18% of women was on anti-depressants at some point between 2015 …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 10:32 PM
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I work in an area where there's a lot of College age and High school women. The 18 year olds get really unattractive really fast. I can't deal with stupid at all, it's a bonerkiller. I can't deal with people who start drama quickly either, and hormones just makes this worse. I've heard so much of it through my job. Older Men who think 18 year olds are attractive must not have ears. Or they're as dumb as the women they went for.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 10:26 PM
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Question would probably be: How high up on the list is being attractive for you? I agree that almost nobody would be in a relationship with someone they're not attracted to, but is it important for a guy to be a snack, or does he just need to not be hard on the eyes?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 10:18 PM
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I love the way TRP talks about this I sound like such a HVM and like I got the most insane HVF. Just by the virtue of how TRP sees the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 10:15 PM
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16% Is NOT a majority. Is that are on anti-depressants or have been on? I'm curious about your numbers source, but these two first points are based on them being true.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 10:07 PM
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I agree with this fully. The number one reason we sometimes ask the question: "How did she end up with HIM?!" is because she just manages to look the part. Besides looks they're exactly the same almost all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 10:05 PM
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Rihanna is also someone that grew up in an abusive household which included her father violently abusing her mother with drug and alcohol abuse. If you say this didn't have a mental effect on her when she did a short return with Chris Brown (Which broke up again fast), I can't really help you here. All of these cases are complicated than just: "Low vs high quality". EDIT: She specifically fits the third criteria in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 09:57 PM
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Most women are stable, just like most men are. It's such a weird concept to say more than 25% of the population is unstable.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 09:52 PM
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Exclusive definitely not, but imo it's more religion that causes this than exclusively red vs blue. And you have the more conservative blue voters as well. Especially when you think about Catholic schools. Liberals are just more likely to be secular/atheist than Conservatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 09:48 PM
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Much simpler: Who cares who is more priveleged overall? Let's fix all the problems and discuss the merits of how to do it. It's not a competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 09:10 PM
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How are women more priveleged than men when it comes to workplace harassment? Let's work on both things, let's not focus on who has it worse overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 09:09 PM
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It's not really important who has it worse imo. It's all a distraction from actually fixing the seperate problems. Sure workplace harassment is bad, sure so is male suicide. We should fix both. Stop comparing them. It's really the biggest distraction from actually fixing the problems that hurts us.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 09:09 PM
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In most other democratic countries women have been elected leaders for decades. Are you saying American women just suck compared to other women in the world?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 08:55 PM
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Well all of what we're saying here should probably be understood in the context of more liberal culture in the first place. Female promiscuity alone can be horribly looked down upon just in a more conservative neighborhood
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 08:48 PM
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But surely you see this as something against RP theory, just as how you would see your post as being supportive of RP theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 02:32 PM
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If we assume most couples are straight, then this logic almost perfectly replicates to men, as there are more men than women. Next, the people who get asked in this survey are or have been married at some point, so we remove the people whom haven't been from the equation completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 02:21 PM
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I never introduce my penis to people, I introduce my personal presentation. You can't just say that numbers are false from a study and then bring up numbers without a citation yourself. It looks pretty silly. At least show where you have your numbers from and use something to actually debunk the study.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 02:12 PM
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So. More older ladies cheat than young ladies, at least according to what the numbers say, why would that be true if nobody wanted to fuck old ladies?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 02:09 PM
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And he completely disregarded this Theorem because it didn't work for the purpose he wanted it for. He discovered a gem, it just didn't actually prove what he wanted it to prove.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 09:32 AM
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The Veritasium guy yes, don't call him Veritas pls, don't want to mix him with the project veritas guy, that would hurt my soul. This guy actually said everything correctly about Bayes Theorem, I was just annoyed at what he decided to use as P And there's no way I'm enthusiastic about this answer, because you can't use bayes theorem to prove a negative.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 09:30 AM
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As someone who does some stats: What does Bayes Theorem have to do with religion? It's a probability theorem, and I'm already bothered by the other guy (who had a reasonable explanation for it) using the prevelance of a disease in the general population, instead of the prevelance of the disease in people getting tested for it. I get why he did it, but it was unreasonably annoying that he used a much lower number.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:26 AM
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I can only ask you to reread the first sentence of the comment you responded to
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:05 AM
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I did the quickest google ever. Crime in America has been sinking since the 90s. What are you even talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 07:01 AM
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Men want very different things. I want a relationship where we're not only emotionally and physically invested in each other, but where we are also simply close friends. It is important for me to be able to share my hobbies with my partner and I can be comfortable enough around her to speak my mind, and her the same with me. Some seem to prefer that the woman does their every bidding instead of letting them have any autonomy. Just from looking at some upvotes comments here
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/21 06:56 AM
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I'll rephrase. Issues can often be gendered, however, I would argue that in issues where there is a slight gender bias, the social media response is tremendously biased. Ah, then we're good, i like this take a lot. I agree with everything else you're saying as well!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 07:45 PM
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I would however have a slight disagreement with the part about men getting angry. I'll let my comment stand without editing, but you are perfectly right. I think this is a good and healthy way of looking at it. Luckily I think good male rolemodels like Terry Crews got a lot of positive news out of his coming out with a sexual assault story. At least in mainstream media. Sadly it stopped hard at him. It shouldn't have. I certainly wish people were less defensive about an issue only being assigned…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 07:13 PM
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Great thanks for that, I fully admit missing that and I'll revisit after having looked better through it. It sounds like the complete opposite of never trusting women though, when in reality imo some trust is earned and some is lost. True for both men and women. I'll do a full watch after, but I'll still recommend being careful of talking heads on youtube x), it can get cultlike real fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 06:38 PM
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I'm not trying to attack you I don't know you This is kinda gaslighty when you're literally writing: Something deep inside of you is really afraid to get hurt so you hang on to the illustration the society has sold you like your life depends on it. But if you don't believe that's an attack I can't really help you, but it's a pretty obvious attack on someones character to say they're afraid of getting hurt and that's why they're debating. TRP tries to teach something like "all things fall to eart…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 05:57 PM
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I like your attitude and I think we agree on most issues, but I don't believe everyone is as mentally capable as you. The way you do this and managing to find the positives without falling into the toxic rabbithole I think is really cool and I hope more men are able to. Problem is that a lot of us seem to end up bitter from the experience towards women. The traits you spread thinly I'd rather just define them as masculine traits, and the positive ones are specifically positive masculine traits, …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 05:48 PM
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There's no deep psychology to find here, I like debating on forums because that actually helps me work on my beliefs. If you're so insecure in TRP that you need to attack me by trying to find a psychological angle I think you'll have a bad time. Good luck with that I guess!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 04:53 PM
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Well, I, as of writing this comment, didn't see the video you mentioned, but I think I have some thoughts into it. It is possible that the idea in focusing on one's betterment in order to trust yourself may result in the long-term redeveloping trust in the opposite sex, since just saying that you should work on your trust issues with women seems generic. I do take issue with not acknowledging as not trusting women by default as a problem though. Then say that. He's not worth learning from if you…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 04:49 PM
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Do you need to read the books if you can see the website that the books are based on? I just read articles that they link in the sidebar. Surely I can learn from that and their glossary. No need to torture myself with some insane collection of articles where I already know multiple of them are wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 04:36 PM
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At least answer if you think the combination of these three definitions attacks women. If you say all women are hypergamous and only seeks out alpha males until the hit "The wall", where they will lock down a beta that they settle for, that's an attack on women. It's not really a feelings vs facts confusion, it's just extremely easy to hear a dogwhistle that's actually an airhorn.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 04:24 PM
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The first video I took with was "I don't trust women" I've tried to skip through it, but he finds nothing about when to trust a woman again if you have been hurt in a previous relationship. He literally only talks about how to work on yourself so you can trust yourself. If you can't trust women overall that's a problem and it of course will stunt your chances of a relationship, the fact that he doesn't think it does is a ridicolous notion to me. That's what he says at the start of the video and …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 03:41 PM
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At least argue against my points. You probably take them the exact same way as me, you're just okay with it. That's how I take one sentence responses to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 03:24 PM
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Let me guess? The rational male is your bible? But not the subreddit that teaches all of this shit onwards? And you also need shit to be spelled out for you? Like this about AWALT, Hypergamy and the wall AWALT - All Women Are Like That. Often expressed after an example of hypergamy. Hypergamy – The instinctual urge for women to seek out the best alpha available. This is marked by maximizing rejection (therefore women are the selective gender). A woman will vet her alpha through various shit test…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 03:22 PM
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Alpha and beta trails are real and observable, though. Saying that some traits are observable in certain situations does not mean that the theory holds. Next: In different social settings the dynamic changes completely, for everyone. Lastly, being able to think for yourself is the mark of a true alpha so no, don't just believe something in TRP (or anywhere) at just face value. Once again a true alpha doesn't exist. It also takes complicated personality traits and tries to put them into two seper…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 02:37 PM
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I guess that's all about where you are and who you talk to? My experience is radically different. Usually people need to be informed, which is why I calm down.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 02:33 PM
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All of the ways you are handling these things are way different from what you can read on the TRP forums though. While "AWALT" for you seems to be just realizing that a perfect woman doesn't exist and it is a reality check when you fall in love, "AWALT" for TRP is vastly different. It's actively been shit like: "I can't respect women because they're stupid, there's no smart women, they can only be booksmart" and so on. Just a few days ago here on PPD. I look at the whole cock carousel and chad t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 02:05 PM
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It's almost like they used truthful arguments in order to convince you. Those scoundrels, being all truthfully manipulative and such. The problem is that they say the truth first. Then they start selling the shit that's not true and completely unprovable as true. Like all of this horrible AWALT shit about how women are only looking to lock down a man after a certain age after they have been on the cock carousel, and that this makes them horrible, because in secret they all miss chad thundercock.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 01:16 PM
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Well, here all three educated judges agreed, while only one ley judge agreed with them. You need five total for a conviction. The woman had a lethal dose of MDMA in her body, while also being extremely drunk. The reasoning from the two final lay judges is that they can't prove that the 3 guys could know for sure of she could consent. They never questioned if she could consent, they only questioned if the men understood that she could. After giving her drugs. On the basis that in one picture she …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:43 AM
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Angry, calm down and then explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 08:14 AM
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Rape happens more to women. Just like how laws against violence mostly protect men. Problem with rape laws is that they're way behind and that disproportionately hurts women. Next is: Rape when someone is unconscious is illegal, her being underage (I think only for drinking, maybe not for consent, don't remember) doesn't really change that. And I have never heard of context that allows men to take unconscious women they don't know home and sexually assault them. If you can find even one I'll be …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 01:07 AM
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I don't think we disagree that much then, from what I've read you seem to have a pretty healthy relationship and generally very reasonable! It's bedtime for me two hours ago so good night :D
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 01:01 AM
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On the first one if you make the boundaries clear, there needs to be some level of trust between friends as well as trust between partners. If not I'd say you need to hash it out. You also need to be able to trust yourself. Which I understand can be difficult for some.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 12:39 AM
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How is it not about trust if you think there's a too big danger he will cheat if he's hanging out with another woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 12:31 AM
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I know boundaries between people without sexual attraction is more clear , so yes, in a lot of (most) cases where there is cross-gender friendship saying they should be communicated is reasonable. I agree fully. I have made this mistake before with female friends in the past, so it is 100% easier to just say that your friendship is platonic where you communicate what you expect from it. Some other female friendships luckily never needed this. But yes, personal anecdote, so grain of salt.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 12:16 AM
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Laws needing changing because they don't protect women in cases where they should is a perfect example of feminism. Not sure what more you want? When women don't get taken seriously and then end up getting murdered by their stalker, do you think that isn't a case where the definition of feminism fits perfectly? Now: Those two cases get worse the deeper you dive into them. Doesn't really help. In one the Judge ruled for, while the two jury members ruled against. Not for lack of proof, but by thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 12:12 AM
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Surely you understand the idiocy of these on a forum with "debate" in the name right? Right? I'd get it if this was /r/aww or something
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 12:00 AM
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100% people out there exist that negotiate about sex. Might be omega rare, but there are some weird ass people out there. Some people even enjoy nutshots. Sexually
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 11:58 PM
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Not sure, I have the inherent belief that most people are honest at heart. Infidelity as well as far as I know (grain of salt) seems to be because of something going wrong for the most part in the relationship. So if you communicate and don't overstay a bad relationship you should be safe. And most people in good relationships thus will not cheat. I would like to add that this thread started because of a: "Men and women can't be friends past puberty" comment. So I can think anecdotes alone can w…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 11:55 PM
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Your total sum there is at max 4.5% of the population. And that's with the assumption that they are extremely highly functioning and non-abusive, also completely secretive about it. Likely eliminating 99% of them. Not much more to add to that really. I trust that my gf isn't such an amazing actress that she could hide this from me and all of our friends for a decade. Especially considering that she seems to be adored by others, mostly women 😂.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 11:40 PM
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You could just say you don't trust your hubby and move on. Reducing him to his sexual desires like this is a big red flag though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 11:34 PM
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No, every man that defends feminism is just trying to get laid. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 11:22 PM
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Yes feminist goals can be applied to capitalist frameworks. If you have a liberal feminist the main goals today should be discussing harassment at work, getting fired for pregnancy (+ paid leave for the parents) and removing slutshaming. All if these are cultural and require no major changes to the economic system. Other tenets from liberal feminists I heard from liberal women I know is: Legal sex work and working on the problem with rape and the court system. In Norway we have two pretty famous…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 11:21 PM
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Well, we can both agree that chemistry is a bit more complicated than: "Spark, now we bang"? Humans actually do have some control over their loins :)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 11:04 PM
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Well yes, communication is the ultimate thing here. If you don't communicate, how could you know if your gf/bf is not that great of a person? You don't actually know them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:43 PM
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In my single heydays I sparked with multiple women. I had sex with one of them, one I drunkenly rejected because us being drunk and underage made me uncomfortable and another I simply rejected because while I sparked with her there was another woman I was in love with, and I felt bad lol. So eh, better be a sick spark, but human chemistry is more complicated than what you seem to believe. EDIT: To be fair, the first one there might be more to it, like me just being uncomfortable only having had …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:34 PM
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Question then is how blinded you are I guess? Most cases of infidelity seem to stem from problems in the relationship. Which means that it can be prevented mostly by communication and being happy in said relationship. Imo if someone was to cheat because horny, then they would cheat eventually. Male or female. Just screams sexual dissatisfaction to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:21 PM
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No? Surely after having known a person for a long time and if you're emotionally close to them, you'd know if a person acted like this. My close female friend (I guess until she moved away a few years ago) was very happy for me when I got a gf, and they easily talk to each other still whenever they meet, just like how I easily befriended her bf.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:00 PM
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Even your closest friends? If not, I'm not sure why you fear something similar out of your husband. If you trust him.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:57 PM
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I'm just wondering: Are you as emotionally intimate with anyone as you are with your husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:25 PM
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The deepest levels of emotional intimacy is also still reserved for gf. Just like how physical intimacy with friends is max a big bearhug, no way I will go as deeply emotionally with anyone of them as I do with gf. There's a difference between levels of emotional intimacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 07:51 PM
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Are you sure we're the rarity? My friend group is filled with people like this, probably like yours is filled with people not like mine
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 07:31 PM
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Yeah, problem with stuff like this is that they base some things in truths, then they hook you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 07:29 PM
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Sharing secrets isn't the same as my emotional investment to my relationship. Not even close to the same level.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 07:21 PM
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The women who admit to this are not women I would be in a relationship with, nor would I be half as emotionally invested with any of my friends as I am with my gf. Sounds like a lot of emotion and effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 07:19 PM
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Too much of society don't focus on innocent men getting killed in a warzone, it's true and sad. Men get longer prison sentences and even young boys get killed during wartime to avoid an uprising by villages, and as you mention it rarely gets a mention. I found a few mentions of boys and boko haram with google, but it's true that it's much less prevalent than the girls being kidnapped. It's also true that people take men for granted and think it's fine to laugh at horrible things happening to men…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 06:17 PM
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It would easily be with levels of emotional intimacy, but in no way would I be as emotionally intimate with my friends as I am with my gf. Just won't happen. I care for and work to help and understand my friends, but I'm not gonna be their emotional rock every time something goes south. Nor will I ever have such a deep emotional tie to them as I have to my gf. A deep emotional bond to me is tying your emotions to your other halfs emotions. If they go down, you go down, if you go up, they go up. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 05:58 PM
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Men aren’t going are picture women as dishware. It’s an analogy. It doesn’t matter. This is why you leave ethics and morals out of dating. Ethics is in everything people with conscience do. It's literally got to do with right and wrong. And that doesn't cease to exist just because you're dating. And an analogy is a comparison, so you're literally comparing a woman to dishware. Which is what dehumanization is. TRP attempts to reduce some aspects of dating to logic. So yes, leaving the ethics out …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 05:46 PM
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Intimacy is reserved for gf only, why would I be intimate with my friends? I'm not intimate with guy friends, so why seperate rules for female friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 05:22 PM
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Stats thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 05:20 PM
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The relationship is over if any one of us runs from having had a fight. That's not resolving a conflict, that's extending it indefinitely. If I can't trust her to be committed to the relationship I can't trust her when it comes to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 05:18 PM
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Human nature is a bit more than penis in vagina
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 04:59 PM
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Well I'm only emotionally intimate with one person really. Tbh that would sound bad even with a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 04:57 PM
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Looks good to me, men reducing themselves to just their penis and the usage of it is hurting them. Luckily that's almost terminally online and most men have more self-worth than just "sexsexsex"
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 04:46 PM
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I'm not sure what you're basing that on.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 04:32 PM
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Nope cause the man always wants to fuck. Hi, explain to me why I don't always want to fuck thanks. I've got a penis, am very comfortable in my body and happy with my looks. I think women could but men absolutely cannot. Both can. But we can keep it simple. If you want to keep this stance I recommend bringing some proof, as this is your claim. If you say "Experience" I will say you need to pick your guys better. They cannot be trusted, this is why men don’t want their girlfriends to have male fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 04:05 PM
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No thanks. Kind of beyond the scope of our little discussion here. Besides, the point isn’t to dehumanize women. Talking about people like they're not people does that. Point or not. It doesn’t matter. This is why you leave ethics and morals out of dating. You don't. Ethics and Morals are an integral part of everything a person does. If you take it out you're just reduced to a mindless robot. You can even use this line of logic to say that Rape or Murder is fine as long as it's for dating. Peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 03:55 PM
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Lol they’re words bro. Used to fit the analogy. Sure. And dehumanizing is a thing people do to others which causes real societal damage, best way to start it is by using dehumanizing words. If you want to there's some good works out there on it. Similar but different. FWB is higher up than a FB. I guess? Yes there is. The option to lie is always available. Though again, it’s not recommend in TRP because of the complications that generally arise. That there's an option to lie doesn't make it a mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 03:36 PM
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In the end he keeps touting others as stupid, but shows more and more how little he knows. It's all projection
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 03:13 PM
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Ok so you need to learn how IQ is distributed first of all. If you don't know this extremely basic shit about IQ I want you to stop using it. An 8 year olds IQ is not measured compared to an adult. 100IQ for an 8 year old is 60IQ for an adult. It does still not mean you had "adult" 100IQ as a kid, it means you were smarter than most other 8 year olds, and probably born early in the year lol, since early on the brain is developed at a much faster rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:58 PM
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Tbh it sounds like you're forcing your dependency on him. And like you have no trust in your husband. I can't say the relationship sounds healthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:51 PM
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Sure, 8 year olds can't breathe quoted /u/Haunting_Feeling_163
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:50 PM
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At least we kept on topic. We both know you couldn't answer any of the other stuff, so you had to pivot hard. You have no citation for why women are more depressed, and the reason being "used as a cumdumpster for Chad" is too dumb for you to defend. But let's see. Why did they STILL not list Fentanyl as the cause of death? The medical examiner that people complained weren't liberal enough said: The autopsy report from Hennepin County Medical Examiner's Office concludes the cause of death was "ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:49 PM
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I feel like you could have 60 IQ and know to avoid anyone that thinks this about people.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:44 PM
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Sorry to say, not everyone is attracted to each other, even though they're friends. So chemistry never really had a chance
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:42 PM
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I think maybe, just maybe, the reason why these women don't deserve your respect, is because they're perceptive of you. Just a thought
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:37 PM
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Lol it’s just a term. Besides men can be plates too. Sure, and it's just as dumb. Both sides are humans Not necessarily. They could just be a fuck buddy. Seems similar to me, just without the added benefit of playing video games together. Right, but you don’t have to lie. There are plenty of women who are into casual sex. The issue is when you find a girl you’re into whose not into casual sex but you still wanna fuck her. That’s where the moral dilemma lies. There's no moral dilemma about that l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:37 PM
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There are plenty of book-smart women. I’ll give you that. Wouldn’t class their robotic recitations as “intelligence” though. Dunno, women at my uni outnumber men in Maths and Programming. Nobody got in on quota management. Out of things where you need to apply your skills intelligently this is up there, and it's not just "Robotic". Programming even has tons of creative solutions to the same problem. Most women create their mental health issues through their lifestyle choices. You mean letting Ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:35 PM
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As in they can't happen at all? There's no way a man and a woman can have a platonic friendship? Is that only if they're both gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:27 PM
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Can I ask why not? I'm in a LTR, and have female friends I hang out with and even go to parties with. One is someone I've known for 3-4 years longer than my partner. I'm just curious as to why it's so bad to have close female friends
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:25 PM
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Calling women plates is already shitty lol, it's like women calling men "a pole". What you want is a FWB that agrees to being FWB. And it's immoral because somebody was lied to, not because you'll start having problems keeping up with your lies.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:21 PM
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One of my favourite sayings: "If everywhere smells like shit it is time to check your own shoes". Maybe you just don't respect women?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:19 PM
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The overwhelming majority of women have virtually nothing to offer an intelligent, inquisitive, self-aware man except sex. There are about an equal amount of well educated and intelligent women as there are men, so if you can have male friends in this situation, then you can have female friends. They’re not feminine. They’re not fun. They’re not cool. They have a huge chip on their shoulder about patriarchy. They’re incredibly selfish and shallow. They have heaps of emotional baggage. They’re on…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:16 PM
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It's a immoral strategy you mean. Like how stealing is an immoral strategy for earning money.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 02:09 PM
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I know you said a lot more (And I am not the one you answered), but I want to hyperfocus on this: Dating is amoral. “All’s fair in love and war” is a well known quote. Is something people say to excuse themselves from being assholes, it doesn't mean that they're not assholes. A quote does not create the moral framework of a situation. Ethics do. There's a few discussions about what is unethical, what is neutral and what is ethical in dating, but that's not what I want to talk about. I just want …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:19 AM
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Thanks, appreciate it!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 10:07 AM
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Black people in my hypothetical won't exist either. We'd all be shades of brown. If I could push a button so we could all ignore race completely I would
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 08:22 AM
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"Cultural" is one of my end words. Women simply won't do sex for survival when they are safe, so it's not something that's hard coded into their DNA. Why the fuck would I base myself on desperation? Starving men in those countries sell their bodies to 80+ year old women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 08:20 AM
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If you just read the first one it mentions 5 separate cases for the outcomes of divorce. Including that divorce sometimes is better for adults and kids because of toxic marriages. And that a lot of other cases are only short term damages. And that divorce damages isn't in effect just the act of divorcing, but the entirety of what leads up to it. Once again. Are you sure you read them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 11:41 PM
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I have an IUD which is the most failsafe form of birth control only beat out by abstinence and sterilization. Gf has the same, hormonal one. And once again the failsafe is abysmally low. Trust me when I say we know. How about we also talk about when birth control fails, that man is just as responsible for that pregnancy as the woman is. Oh, but we slut shame women for being single moms (who baby daddy abandons) or whores for having an abortion. Birth control fails, 99% of the time it fails it's …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:40 PM
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Citing your own study, there's a very big caveat here: "First, the data contain no information about relationship skills or attitudes, values, or beliefs that can be used to distinguish between groups of women defined according to their histories of premarital relationships" It asks no questions about religion, where we know, no sex until marriage, divorce bad. Even if Divorce would be good. It doesn't really add much imo. If you pursue a woman and you need to look at a stat to feel certain if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 09:22 PM
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If the woman uses pill protection correctly the risk is low to non-existent, so is the same with condoms. I'm sorry, should I add that the woman needs to not be an idiot as well? The likelihood of protection failing with everything done right is abysmally low. I guess the other risk we could mention is getting murdered? Where I live there's 20 murders a year or so (most of them between drug abusers and spouses). Over 5 million people. The risk is once again abysmally low. And women here are pret…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:52 PM
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Linking studies blindly is fun. Did you read any of them?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:34 PM
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Divorce isn't what caused it. They literally cited marital conflict just as much as divorce. You're mixing correlation and causation when there's such an obvious cause right next to it. These people shouldn't have gotten married to each other in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:23 PM
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So you rather want her to be a deadbeat mom or cheat, than for her to just get divorced? I'm so confused. Then the man gets divorced instead. But it seems that these aren't reasons to fear. Look here: here Infidelity seems to be a "Final straw" type, which means they should have gotten divorced earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 08:12 PM
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I'm curious, what do you use for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:58 PM
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Some things aren't known to the conscious part of the brain. We as a species survive by having sex, and in more ways than one. Well yes, it's an efficient way to reshuffle our DNA to avoid inbreeding as well. Besides just reproducing. There's nothing else really. Any other uses of sex are purely cultural or individual.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:56 PM
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I'm extremely happy my parents got divorced, the relationship was toxic, even though they are both great people. It just didn't work. Divorce rates being higher in and of itself isn't a bad thing. EDIT: So yes, we agree
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:52 PM
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I wish I could see it, one day where all the races mix into one nice shade of brown. Saying white people will go extinct is such a weird thing to say in the first place, you need to care way too much about race.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:50 PM
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If you use statistical correlation for your individual relationships you're closing the door to many good women just because they increase the likelihood of divorce in totality, even if that woman you rejected might be married the rest of her life. Next is: Women with high N-count are more likely to get a divorce when they're unhappy, while women with lower N-count will be more likely to stay in an unhappy relationship. Fuck that. Why the stats are like that are just as important as the stat exi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:47 PM
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I dunno, it's the only reason I have sex. Dunno there's not really much more to it, it's great, fun and feels good. Also a good workout if you go at it a bit. GF has similar reasonings when she's horny. We're not trying to survive by having sex, we just have sex because we like having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:43 PM
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Tbh no idea and I'd have to see research. I'd guess they're not above 50%, but I'm not sure how low you're considering a "minority" case either. I'd say that most men and women in LTRs knew each other in a flirty way prior to going out, but more and more relationships start online, especially now during Covid. How many were platonic friends before? Probably not too many, there's probably in almost all platonic cases been some thoughts of: "Oh xyz is good looking!" at the very least. I'm the last…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:27 PM
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Not vetting someone for being an asshole, doesn't make the guy stop being an asshole. Second, if a woman approaches a man and they have a ONS, she might just have wanted to have sex. But anyone lieing about their intentions is the ass. Life isn't a game where you use others. Now moving on: The only risk men take when approaching women is that they will get rejected. The same risk is the only risk women take. Any other risk is completely social. Women need to approach men more and I agree there, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 07:18 PM
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Sex is a tool that makes us feel good. Evolutionarily speaking it feels good because of procreation. Tons of women are simply horny when they have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 06:56 PM
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No, it started with men noticing that some men were a lot more successful with women than other, and then tried to find an explanation through observing animal behavior in order to notice certain parallels in behavior. Sure. If you change the definition of "Alpha/Beta" completely to mean something that it never meant, then it's great. It's got to do with dominance specifically, which in certain animal kingdoms is correlated with how much sex they have. It's not remotely applicable to humans and …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:32 PM
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Once again, you're oversimplifying a complex thing such as "Compatibility" down to just one or two factors of it. I can't really help you here. It's simply wrong, especially for LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:22 PM
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While yes, some people are better in bed than others, sometimes a lot of things change for certain positions based upon how a person moves or tightness/size and the way they work together. Certain positions she prefers with small dick might be undoable with a big dick (And others will be way better with a bigger dick). Certain positions she prefers because the guy lifts himself up more, and some women prefer it going super deep, while others get cervix punches way too soon. There's so much more …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 03:11 PM
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You're intentionally misrepresenting to be a retard. You cut her off from your money. She already doesn't use my money, so I'd say: "I cut you off from money you never spend!"? I'm just so confused. You make her pay for everything. Since you're in Norway where you're all fully egalitarian, it'll be no problem. She has paid for entire dates before when I was broke, because she really wanted to go out. I felt bad for it, but I'm fine. After all, everyone knows Norway is perfect and has perfect gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:55 PM
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Son, this is why you don't smoke weed when you first wake up. Your hole day is in Alice's Wonderland. Man you figured me out, my last 10 years have been a weed fantasy and she never existed. Or you're inventing a narrative so that you can feel better about how wrong you are. I don't know where you are, but I assume it's near Themyscira. Norway. It's common here that everything is split 50/50 on dates. As I said, cut all the money off, make her the primary breadwinner and spender of her money, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:51 PM
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Have you read what you wrote here? You disagreed with me and then agreed. The commitment part? Commitment isn't risk. I never agreed to commitment being risk did I? Where did I? I'm so confused. Are you not just putting words in my mouth? Men being betas are scientifically disprove? wtf, the measure weather a man is alpha or beta is how easily he can get women to have sex with him... Alpha/Beta definitions change so fast I can't even keep up. Last time I read it was about someone being more "Dom…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:47 PM
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If I may I ask, what are some of the things that made your relationship work from such a young age Time and effort lol, it's not always easy to have just finished puberty and be in a relationship. A lot of emotional issues going on there for both of us, but we decided to talk about them and work through them instead of breaking it off. and you say you’re blue pill what does that mean for you and how has it played out? That I'm satirical of red pill. It's about what it means. Blue pill is literal…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:31 PM
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If sexual attraction and sexual compatibility was a 1 to 1 thing then I'd agree, but you're reducing something much more complicated to one simple thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:20 PM
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Earning is not spending. So? She has less money when she's with me than she would have if she wasn't. Women don't form relationships without gain. If you think they do, you're deluded. The gain is the same thing for the man as the woman. Someone you can always go to that will prioritize you first, both intimately and empathetically. If you want to experiment, date a girl a while, then cut off 100% of all money. No more paying for meals, entertainment, etc. Don't even pick her up so she spends mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:11 PM
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Sex is a bedrock upon which a relationship is built, without sex THERE IS NO relationship. The man and woman are just friends then. Just not true. There's a big difference between being friends and in a relationship. Just emotionally speaking. The fact that you think differently makes me feel sad for you. Just the way I feel comfortable around my gf when she's around daily is completely different from how I feel around any friend. Even in a non-sexual manner. There is no relationship because, ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:08 PM
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Real life luckily has multiple crazy examples of how couples meet and specific steps aren't really great. At best they can help you lead the way some Good you seem to be happy in this relationship though. Me and my gf met around the same age you and yours met (16-17) and we've been going strong, we're turning 29 this year. Hopefully your relationship sees similar success!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 02:00 PM
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And because a woman earns money, you think she suddenly stopped being a gold digger? Well, the ones I know haven't been gold diggers at any point in their life. I really don't know what to say to you, besides this being a total fantasy All women are, women are hypergamous, women will date up or parallel at any chance. They don't date or marry down. Fuck, sure. But intentionally marry way down? Nope. It's so rare that when a woman actually has to pay alimony it makes international news. It's true…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:58 PM
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Sounds weird when we're earning about the same amount of money, but we tbh spend more on me since I'm more social and outgoing than she is. I know tons of relationships actually, where they earn about the same, and in a few cases she's earning more money. Is the guy the gold digger then, if she earns the most money?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:47 PM
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Then I hope you get rid of him and don't judge other potentially better partners for just having this in common with him in the future Good luck!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:44 PM
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Sexual compatibility takes way more than a few minutes to determine. What you're mixing it up with is sexual attraction. Compatibility includes so many things in bed, like who prefers being on top, to preferred position to finish in, communication and all that jazz. A ONS in general does not communicate 1/100th as well as a LTR in bed. And knowing what your partner prefers can be a lot of testing, especially since a lot of things can make that different from partner to partner. Sexual compatibil…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:42 PM
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Then I really can't say much more than what I've already said. Why would you risk it? Either you have to act controlling and he will use that against you later, or there's a huge risk of him cheating and you will get hurt. Don't deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:36 PM
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Because we're talking about relationships, not sugar daddies?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:34 PM
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Better alternative: Step 1: Boy meets girl Step 2: They hang out Step 3: They have sex (Skippable) Step 4: They like each other Step 5: They're compatible in more than just a "Like each other" basis Step 6: Couple is formed Sex is important for many couples (Mine included) for compatibility, but in no way is it an important part of compatibility for all couples. In fact lots of couples don't find sex important at all. And what you seem to think is important in a relationship is sex, then I guess…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:31 PM
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Well approving of it and him constantly reassuring are different. It just sounds like he has a personal issue you don't wanna deal with. I get why it feels risky about guys trying to keep their exes around, but you need to make this on a "guy by guy" basis. Constantly reassuring, going behind your back and any other hints that you can't trust them with this is a good reason to gtfo. Tbh all of this should apply to any guy, not just guys that are friends with their ex. I'd never approve of a girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:23 PM
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Then I would not be with this person. Lack of trust will ruin your relationship in the end. And that guy you mentioned in the end sounds like he was trying to reassure himself more than he was trying to reassure you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 01:17 PM
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If my gf was friends with her ex I'd be fine with it if I knew I could trust her. If I didn't think I could trust her I would probably not be together with her in the first place though. I encourage her constantly to hang out with her friends, male and female, as I want her to be independent of me emotionally. She does suffer from anxiety though, which I believe makes this attitude more important. If I ever felt threatened by a man I'd say I was uncomfortable and why, and if we can't reconcile t…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/21 12:37 PM
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Modern porn industry needs work. It's abusive towards its workers in many cases, and they enter out of desperation. Wanna watch porn? At least try and consume it when it's something the women do and enjoy as a job. Women that do everything consentingly in porn are definitely not hurting women. And tbh, even in a LTR you don't have sex every day, so if you want to get off some days, porn works just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:45 PM
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Simplest is to answer it honestly, if he leaves over a too high count imo that's a bullet dodged, you're not compatible. It's what I'll tell my more promiscuous male friends if they fear ending up with a similar question. In and of its own I'm not sure if it's a red flag, maybe a yellow one where he/she might lack self-confidence sexually? The following conversation could easily be interesting as well, sounds like you could be open to tons of red flags in the next 10 minutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/21 08:36 PM
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Casual Sex is so different, don't see how this validates RP in any way shape or form. If I want casual sex, she better be hot, but I also know that my chances are way slimmer than a womans chances, if she looks about as good as me. This counts for any man/woman. If you pass the requirements of looks for casual sex, "Holding frame" is literally just "Don't make a fool out of yourself" and then you've got sex on your hands. One night stands for anyone struggling in the looks department on Tinder w…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/18 08:51 AM
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But, "Empowered to be like men" When X has the power, you can say that about any Y that wants to become more empowered. "Oh Y just wants to be like X, since X actually can do what X wishes with X's life, how pathetic of Y!" Or like this: X has P Y wants P as well. Does not make the logical conclusion Y wants to be like X This is not sound logic. The only conclusion that can be made is P is something both X and Y wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 11:56 AM
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Success for a man is not something that should be unique to men, dunno how hard that is. Success should be working hard and making it, equality is giving everyone an equal chance of doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/18 10:14 AM
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Slut is literally a word meant to shame, you can't change the meaning randomly. And then you say since you've got standards you're not gonna date one, which implies super hard that you can't have standards and date a high N count woman. Which is ridicolous. It's called a preference, and don't step on what others prefer lol. And wtf, in a discussion forum, if I defend a standpoint that defends women somehow I'm a white knight? Grow a fucking pair, you can do it without using insults like that sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 05:26 PM
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Aaaah america You don't have to marry to live a happy life together, I know of LTR's that have gone more than 30 years If you can lose 50% of all your assets, your laws are fucked.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 08:01 AM
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Who's "we"? If it's men, don't include me and other men who give no shits, if it's red pill, eh, High value men should be having their own "high N count". So that means any man with that is also garbage, or once again, hypocrite. If you are admittedly a hypocrite about this, then you treat women worse than you'd treat men, and there's multiple words for that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 07:57 AM
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More shaming attempts Calling women sluts is shaming. Hypocrite.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 01:01 AM
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Divorce studies are hard because they are extreeemely inconsistent as seen here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 12:59 AM
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The most interesting thing for me is why do men care. As long as she didn't cheat on a partner I give no fucks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/18 12:49 AM
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Sigh I never personally attacked anyone besides you, I said they lacked empathy for the boyfriend and in this particular case I believed them to be acting amorally just because they didn't know him. Obviously this triggered you though, cus holy crap. You just keep attacking like I'm the sjw boogeyman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 06:39 AM
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"I too can make anything sound stupid with one sentence" - You, Right now. And people literally argued that they had no empathy for the boyfriend, so of course I will ask why not oO
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 03:25 AM
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Dunno, the most aggressive one here is you, so I must've triggered you somehow :/. You even dropped the dumbass "sjw" crap And no, I argued my damn point People who disagreed with my opinion, still agreed with my points about a lack of empathy towards the boyfriend, and I do still believe sleeping with someone that has a bf and he does not know about it, to be amoral.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/18 01:58 AM
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Man, if defending ones opinion in a debate forum is crying, then we're all crybabies. At least stop coming with ridicolous assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 06:11 PM
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Whatever makes you sleep at night my dude, "Still crying", another assumption sir, good job. I'm not. I'm not angry at anyone, nor am I crying, I have an opinion and I'm defending it in a debate forum. If I use words like "Amoral" it's part of my viewpoint in this specific case. I'm trying to be an adult about it, but it's hard when you're actively dragging the discussion down to making stupid assumptions about strangers on the internet. You're 25, act like it :|
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 05:44 PM
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No I'm not? I'm saying that it's amoral and I've argued it, you're just being a baby because I disagree with your viewpoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 04:49 PM
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Man, I thought this was a debate forum. What ever am I supposed to do if not debate? Just enter an echochamber and circlejerk?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 02:40 PM
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I'm being butthurt about what avoidable thing? Are you trying to assume stuff about me again? You're very good at thinking you know stuff about others over the internet. I hope you're better at this in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/18 07:59 AM
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You're acting like I did when I was a "cool 16 year old" I really hope that "93" is not your birth year, because I would be embarrassed on your behalf :-/ Making a random assumption that has no basis in reality, then calling the OTHER person a kid. Good work. Would that maybe make you the projector?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 11:39 PM
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What a guess, how extremely silly. That's like saying: "Defending gay people, what are you? Gay?" Maybe, just maybe, I have a moral compass.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 10:42 PM
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Ah yes, you corrected me on the most important aspect, the people of the world aren't gonna die, just mostly people in Africa and other places with lack of water, which will cause an even bigger refugee crisis than we have today. "Good riddance". Edgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/18 10:38 AM
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I don't blame him for her being an asshole, I blame him for him committing to an asshole who acts like an asshole, much to his chagrin. Victimblaming Great job, sometimes assholes hide it well. The guy needs to learn his lesson in not committing himself to low quality women so he can stop believing women are wonderful. How do you see the difference between a woman that will cheat on you if she gets bored after 2-3 years and one who won't? Whats your magic formula?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 08:45 PM
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well, if you're complicit in hurting other peoples emotions, I'm pretty damn sure most peoples standards would put you in the "Dick" category
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 08:45 PM
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"Should" means nothing. The world doesn't run on "shoulds." No ,and if we go to climate change the world is dying because it doesn't run on "Shoulds".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 08:44 PM
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Not his problem. Temptation is everywhere. He shouldn’t have to moderate himself just because she’s a bad person. Helping others be a bad person does not make you not a bad person. How hard is that of a concept lol If you are making a business deal and strike a deal with me that will put you out of business for my benefit, why should I relinquish my benefit to accommodate your stupidity? The dude is not part of that "business deal", your entire point is flawed. Adults deal with their own consequ…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 08:44 PM
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A man getting dumped should motivate him to be a better man and if it doesn’t he has A LOT of growing up to do. If it's a really shit woman that cheats, he probably is not the one at fault. I think it’s wrong if there’s marriage and kids because there’s more on the line to terminating that relationship than simply “muh feelings!” No, but you can easily extend the kids part to "MUH KIDS FEELINGS" and the marriage part I don't see what extends it besides the kids one. Everything can be extended to…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 08:41 PM
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And you don't see how you're complicit in that at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 08:39 PM
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Most men don’t care about other men’s feelings in this situation So? Doesn't make it more right, many things we don't seem to care about, we absoloutely should care more about. If the boyfriend were her husband and had a family together I’d be on your side. So because there's no ring or kids involved it's ok to hurt him? Wut Everyone gets their heart broken at some point. Getting your heart broken is not the same as having intimate trust broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 04:54 PM
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Once again, he cares. Dunno how that's so difficult to comprehend. The fact that you have no empathy for him doesn't remove that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 04:52 PM
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If you're actively part of hurting someone it's still wrong, even if it is inevitable lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 04:52 PM
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As I said earlier, you don't need to break a social contract before you're being a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 04:18 PM
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So because someone else will do it, m it's ok for you to do it? Ridicolous concept. Two wrongs don't make a right. Stop thinking about it that way
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 04:03 PM
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Considering all the replies I've got here, indeed, it's every man for himself in their mind. Vagina > everyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 04:01 PM
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Is this sarcasm? I can't tell because it's so ridicolous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 03:59 PM
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You need a social contract to not be a dick? ... Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 03:58 PM
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Sure man, because all cheating women are the same oO And all men are good at seeing red flags. Don't blame the guy for her being an asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 03:57 PM
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Justifying being a dick here. Won't remove the fact that it is a dick move
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 03:56 PM
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Does not make the action of helping someone cheat more ok, you're actively taking part in hurting someone. I don't care if it's a loved one or a stranger, doesn't make it less wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 02:37 PM
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The boyfriend? Or are you devoid of empathy because you don't know him?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 02:13 PM
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This is weird to me, I don't look down on my gf or up to her, I think it's important to be able to behold each other evenly, else someone sits with too much power in a relationship. If I look up to my gf I'll risk putting her on a pedestal and never get my opinions heard because I won't stand up for myself if I feel wronged by her in the relationship. And the opposite if I look down on her, I won't value her opinions in matters we're both involved in, and I won't accept her trying to tell me whe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 10:10 AM
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While she's the bigger asshole, you're still being complicit in escalating to sex, so no, you shouldn't escalate. While she's the one stabbing him in the heart, you're the one who gave her the sword in this case.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/18 09:18 AM
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Wait, I've had one ONS, she was sober I've said no to two others, one was also sober. Hot, but dumb as bread. Also I was hopeful with a very cute young woman at the time Dunno, just gotta look in the right places, ONS's can happen with sober women as well
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/18 08:16 AM
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So you read it, great, what they controlled for was womens education compared to age, another thing you'd have noticed was that male desirability was barely changed in the graph (lowest at like .45 to highest around .55) They did not say anything about what age older men got the most responses from, they did also not say anything about the above average desirability women in their 40s and 50s responding to them as well, which is a much more likely scenario considering what people do seem to pref…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/18 07:18 AM
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Ok sounds great, If there's anything specific you wish to discuss I'll join, I think your perspective is interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 11:19 PM
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I think those two are mutually inclusive, else I think that's pretty much what bugs me too :D
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 07:23 PM
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Dunno what to say here, you're more brutal than me but generally I agree, I even said so earlier I think: if people ask, tell them that they need to lose weight. There's no need to lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 06:45 PM
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It's definitely not silly or a misunderstanding. Like imagine if we had anything which points the finger at female "nature" being toxic, it would never become mainstream. That's the problem. The reason we point at certain parts of masculinity is when the masculinity becomes detrimental, and it's very prevalent in the whole "Alpha male" bs that we have to deal with, men who act tough, like they need to be able to win a fight against me, are just silly. Also, toxic masculinity is a phrase which I …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 02:04 PM
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I think that the word toxic masculinity itself is an example of society being blue pill. There's obvious issues with women but instead of being able to call a spade a spade, we still rationalize that it somehow all stems from the male. To me it's more about societies expectation of what a man should be, and that's how I understood it from Terry Crews as well when he discussed his side of it. Women are guilty of causing toxic masculinity At least it is implied from the name that the masculinity i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 12:33 PM
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Well, on this end of the spectrum I guess I agree with you, though we might differ on if this is a reason to go towards RP or not. Relationship abuse happens to men too (And according to some statistics at least that I've read, in some places more than to women, though I did not actually read the studies themselves), still we don't acknowledge this and that's a huge problem. But I'd call that part of "Toxic Masculinity" though, where you're not a real man if you can't deal with your wife/gf actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 11:33 AM
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Truth and knowledge Their lack of truth and knowledge, and sometimes in debates here, straight up denial of how statistics work and calling it a "bullshit science", is not only denial of knowledge, but denial of science as a whole. They have no idea how personal bias works, they keep reading into how people act the way they believe they are thinking (Misunderstanding stuff as Shit testing, when it might as well be nothing in her case). They never ask the question if the woman is happy either. Ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/18 09:25 AM
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There's no arguments from you here, but if you wanna play the insult game I can join you. Surely you have a smart insult for me incoming!
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 04:00 PM
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Your video game and math examples are just surreal. Get out of the basement once and actually go to a board gaming session. The gender ratio there makes it even more unbalanced. I prefer not to play board games, find them to be too long winded and boring, but I do enjoy the students bar for people studying maths and statistics, and there's more women than men there. So, eh. Yes, it’s an unbalanced game. Create a Tinder profile with a male and female profiles, compare the results. Go to a bar and…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 01:00 PM
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Stop being a condenscending prick
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 11:51 AM
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Yes, because admitting a lack of knowledge on a certain subject is the epitome of uneducated. Sigh, acting like you know stuff you don't know on the other hand..
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 11:45 AM
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I have no idea what keto is, and if you asked most people in my vastly skinnier country, you'd know that a lot of us don't Also fasting, is not, healthy. You will regain that weight like a fucking fat sponge when you return to eating normal meals. At least work out, cut down on the sugar and eat proteins if you want to have even a chance of staying down.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 11:41 AM
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I'd see what you meant if I was fat and raging about this. Sadly, I am not.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 11:37 AM
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"When people were skinny" Are you talking about before everyone could afford to eat? Because the fat problem roots back pretty damn far in American history.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 11:35 AM
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Sure, ignore the actual facts on this. A lot of mental health shit has to do with adhd/asbergers/clinical depression, not really self-inflicted, but genetical, heck, the most common one by far is adhd if memory serves. Next, fat people might have eaten themselves fat, but there's almost always an underlying cause, rooted in mental health problems. Psychological addictons usually work like that, like gaming addiction, cannabis addiction and gambling addiction. They're not just: "You just gotta st…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 11:12 AM
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First, the evidence says that less people will slim down, if fatshaming is the norm, so no, there's a good chance they wouldn't just stay fat That last part though, how many is "many"? 5-10? 5% 50% 90%? Also, once again, when being bullied, a coping mechanism is finding people like you
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 10:52 AM
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Man, if only knowing was action, then I'd be world champion in so much. So would you, if only things were more about mental health and an actual crackdown on the sugar vs fats misinformation campaigns in the earlier years, your epidemic would be way better handled
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 10:42 AM
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America* is at epidemic levels, and that's got more to do with people being afraid of fats in foods and the industry switching it out with sugar. Which breaks down into fats, while fats do not break down into fats Fatshaming sure is a thing here too, but most people treat fat people way better than just calling out random fat people. If you do that, there's reason (scientific reason) to believe that fatshaming has the opposite effect, making less people lose weight
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 10:32 AM
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Well here we probably agree, I don't really know the biggest road block, but I know it's psychological for most of them. But what you said here is a huge step away from just calling a random person fat, which is what I called out earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 10:13 AM
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I think telling a girl to lose weight is constructive advice. As I said, in certain situations, if you tell a random fat girl to lose weight you're just a dick Nothing is there to keep her weight in check if we're all okay with it. Fatshaming literally doesn't change it. Asian culture is very forward with things like this and their obesity problem is far less endemic. If you think this hasn't caused a lot of other underlying problems in their cultures, you're wrong. Being fat is not even remotel…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 09:34 AM
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If you knew a damn thing about what underlying psychological causes there are for fatness, this wouldn't be the advice you gave.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 09:32 AM
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Worst part is, most fat people know very well that they're fat. Shitting on them for it will straight up NOT help.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 09:00 AM
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Self-improvement is fine, what she described there is extremely silly in comparison to normal self-improvement. Going to a restaurant on a date and not eating is extremely silly. Seriously do something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 08:12 AM
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You'll always have a fringe crazy feminist claiming something weird. What these people claim as misogony basically removes an adult womans consent from her own. Which is ridicolous.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 08:04 AM
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Nonono, let me link you this extremely fringe group of feminists to prove my point! And since all feminists are the same, I win! Sigh
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 08:00 AM
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If you blindside her from a distance and you don't know her at all, maybe. But at the very least you're a huge asshole. If she's specifically wondering what she needs to do to attract more men, then no. There's still a difference between calling her a fat bitch and actually trying to be helpful though (Imagine fatpeoplehate, they were not helpful)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 07:50 AM
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People just enjoy believing what they want to believe, whatever the research says, just now I had someone call me out on the lack of "control of the maternal age" But, but, this is an article and sadly I can't get to the study itself, but multiple more studies are linked in the article, literally the next one says that advanced age in men AFTER controlling from maternal age does increase likelihood og autism by a lot Sigh
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 07:43 AM
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Hey genius, reading the article and thinking that's the study! First of all, sadly the malaysian study is down, second of all, there's a few other big studies, that have got "after controllinh for maternal age" in the damn abstract
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/18 07:36 AM
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People are like this a lot, they can't do any stats or probably even basic probability maths, it doesn't stop them from making silly weak claims about statistics. If you know that A and B are correlated, even if one doesn't directly cause the other, there's a lot of reason to avoid A if B is positively correlated to A. (Especially if B is a bad situation x] )
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 06:49 PM
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The incoming data, via the scientific method, will chip away at the data packets and slowly the image will get clearer and clearer until I get a pair of Ireland boobs. Well yes, it goes towards a specific individual picture Going via stats doesn't make the picture clearer and clearer as often as it may materialize a giant cock on my screen. What. This is incomprehensible, why would you use stats to get an individual picture? Instead of an average of what people want when they search for a pictur…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 02:35 PM
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So? If risk of mental illness increases to 24%, there's still a higher chance of you not getting one Heck, if there was a 99% chance of mental illness you'd just be part of the 1%. Stats is way more advanced than personal anecdotes
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 02:24 PM
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Can you explain what you think is unscientific about regression models?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 01:54 PM
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This is a boring way to not understand statistics at all, in this case we learn to know where to look. You also seem to disregard controlling for different variables completely We find a correlation between older dads and mental illness in the child? Look into what can cause this. Sperm quality is the only place to look genetically, and parenting is the place to look socially. If they control for the social factor (see what is similar and dissimilar between younger and older dads and manage to r…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 01:42 PM
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To be honest I think that sounds like general advice accepted on both sides It's not really purple pill either Red pill pushes this, Blue pill calls this the "good advice" part of RP Wouldn't really the only real difference between these two be about alpha/beta stuff, as well as how to generalize "women"? My biggest problem with RP is how a lot of the followers(not all in my experience) treat getting laid as an unbalanced game you need to be winning over other men instead of another social inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 01:07 PM
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I enjoyed your joke :3
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/18 12:46 PM
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Go grab that last word, you deserve it ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 10:08 PM
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Random insult I win Stupid comment Good work. You could at least explain where the fuck economic theory comes in, instead you just say that it applies. That shows no proof, only blind arguing in bad faith. Even if you'd be correct nobody could follow that argument. Grow up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 07:24 PM
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Maybe if you buy yourself a prostitute. Humans have different principles for love and casual sex than what they have for "Product X at the store".
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 04:00 PM
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Wut. If dating was cold hard logic, then we'd not have this problem in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/18 12:51 PM
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So any good looking guy is Chad? Not a specific type of "alpha" that's also hot? Red pill confirmed bad at descriptions
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/18 07:09 AM
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The study specifically says that there's a huge numbers disrepency between high vs low self-confidence in men. It's extremely relevant lol, it literally argues my point. Ironically you tried to undermine my position by saying nerdy men are lonely because they are unhygienic, which is perceived from their looks. You don't go and mix looks vs hygiene, one is extremely much easier to do something about than the other. Confidence will help even ugly dudes, and showering will help your damn confidenc…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 07:02 AM
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No, but if someone keeps acting like a dick, then it's a problem. If it's initial attraction to someone being a dick, then you're accepting of the dick part of the personality if you act on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/18 06:57 AM
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It's an incomplete field of study that gets improved upon through empirical evidence. Just like other sciences oO
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 10:38 PM
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I see, this is what we've come to. Sweepingly removing an entire field of study from science with the argument "lol" at the end. This entire field of study? What keeps medicare going in all the western countries besides ONE, and is what helps assess where to tax, how companies should invest and so much more, denied with one big "lol". Sorry, at least acknowledge that you have no idea how economics works, and instead of denying it as a science, just, like, admit that you don't know. It makes you …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 10:26 PM
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Ofc they are. Because that's how you can support your ideological worldview, by denying science.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 10:10 PM
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Because there's no study, that supports your unbacked assertions? Nerds are in the end just as human as everyone else, and just as backed up by the sexual confidence studies. Just because you don't believe it, doesn't make it true. Here's one directly backing up how significant self-esteem is for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 10:07 PM
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Googling that gives you plenty of empty assessments from clowns who make ridiculous extrapolations. Didn't know economists were clowns? Or the OECD
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 10:00 PM
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You think I don't pay attention to womens actions combined with their words? I guess I must be super hot according to ppd, whilst I am not lol The logic says I'm too ugly to get one, but here I am I guess. Also, if a woman shit tests, she's a shit person. I'd back out if she did. If she calls out a dick for being a dick though, she's not shit testing And maybe you just think some guys are assholes, but you're just jealous? I don't deny that assholes get laid, I'm just fighting the assertion that…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 09:16 PM
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Yeah, there's not much to say here to answers with no backup Like, you didn't challenge my assertion from last comment at all, just ignored it and somehow stated that you're definitely right, when it's difficult to be more wrong about immigration and economics Short google about Japan, fertility rates and immigration will easily lead you in the right direction. In the meantime stop making empty assessments.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 09:12 PM
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Wtf Your assertions are so unproven out of left field it' hard to keep up. Start citing from now on, else this is worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 09:08 PM
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Only where they've been specifically dealt a harsh blow by anti-immigrants OR put into living areas that can only be described as ghettoes. No Sure, whatever you say EvidenceBased. Even in the days of embargoes they would still trade with China, for commodities such as iron, always in short supply. I misunderstood here, I thought you meant the version for autocracy, not for autarky, not too familiar with that term Needing more work would be a boon for the currently unemployed. 2.4% unemployment …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 07:41 PM
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What do you make up of the fact that complete dick men who have good looks often do well with women? Self-confidence, not all the dickishness is immediatly visible, sometimes it gets mistaken for just pure playfulness and she doesn't recognize it. nerdy smart men do not? No self-confidence, I've even seen some more good looking nerdy-smart men do badly with women, just because their confidence is shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 07:37 PM
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Low skill immigrants often create problem children. Only where they've been specifically dealt a harsh blow by anti-immigrants OR put into living areas that can only be described as ghettoes. Japan has never been an autarchy, it's an island nation. First of all you got your history wrong, second of all yes, it is an island nation. They've been overworking for years and the rate of decline has been entirely steady. This will get worse with the even more aging population. Because they will need mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 06:52 PM
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Hardly just that. That's gonna be the brunt of it. Especially if you're talking about low-skill immigration taking work from NO-ONE will be way better than what they've got coming for them now. Which is That they won't be able to produce everything that they need because of a lack of workers? Not enough people to fill jobs? If they keep this up with the constant overworking of everyone they will struggle because, once again, population will decline hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 06:30 PM
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Ofc, sorry, all women lie, it's impossible to get the truth out of women. It's just genetically hardcoded. Or, we could actually have a slight sense of nuance here. Women like smarts, women don't like smart sweaty nasty men that used all their points up in intelligence and stopped trying to do anything else with themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 06:28 PM
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Never said it didn't. But the struggles they will have with crazy nationalists will be way better than what they've got coming for them now.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 06:25 PM
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So I did mention that women do share what physical traits they do like, and you go against me flat out on that? Cus they do, once again, if you talk to them. Shit like dick size doesn't matter past a certain point though lol, and even microdicks can work it out. Some women care a lot (Size Queens), some women give 0 fucks and some women care a little bit. It's not really much more to say about that. Women say things like personality And looks, smarts, romantic and more (All about the woman and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 05:06 PM
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If /u/ThunderbearIM's advice didn't work for you then you suck and are the problem, because it's supposed to be that easy for you Sure, and I'd consider myself more bluepill on this site than any of the other ones. Most BP'ers acknowledge that people can have more problems in dating, but usually they are obvious to others, and not so much to themselves. No-one thinks it's supposed to "Be that easy", the advice isn't exactly easy to follow, though it seems like it is. Just talking to others about…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 04:52 PM
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Lol sure man Cherrypicking = proof That's how the world works Stop thinking that cherrypicking is proof for anything besides bias confirmation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 02:52 PM
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Ok whatever man I can also make unprovable claims. I bet you have a shit personality and blame it on you being short. See?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 01:46 PM
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Sure. You know better than the people studying this shit their entire life. Stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 01:44 PM
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What. I dunno what women you've talked to or how much you've ever gotten to know one, but women share what physical traits they like all the time. You're just to blame for not listening
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 01:42 PM
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I could probably cherrypick thousands of pictures of women saying they prefer short men on twitter too, but you see, the difference is that I have neither the time nor the will to go through that effort. The point is: Cherrypicking always works to make a stupid point that's not rooted in reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 10:23 AM
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And you say that why? Because being around someone who likes you being a dick to her is probably either: A: Accepting of someone being a dick to others or B: A dick herself
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 10:21 AM
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The penis version of dick yes Not the personality version of dick
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 10:17 AM
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The much talked about birth rate of Japan is around the same as the birth rate of the USA, when you remove the US religious natalists groups. Then the US needs to work on their problems too lol, because while it's ok NOW, it's gonna get worse, but this can also be made up for by immigration in the meanwhile, as the US does to a lesser degree (But still way more than Japan). The Jap birth rate is slowly increasing though, the US is crashing. It's been steady at 1.42 for the last 3 years, not real…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 09:15 AM
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In Japan the population is also going down, as well as their economy. If this keeps happening they will need to open up their borders to immigration or else they will struggle a lot when the population grows too old to work. Stigmatization of women having babies in any form will cause a huge single men/women problem as well as a population decline
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 08:43 AM
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Disagreeable is not being a dick though, maybe you're just standing up for your opinions more?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 08:32 AM
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Imagine that psychological theory is a thing, and that it's way different from economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 08:30 AM
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What, that's a ridicolous notion not rooted in reality. Women are just as honest/dishonest as men, while people don't always fall for their ideals, there's always something in there you yourself can fulfill.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 08:29 AM
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Lol sure, applying economic theory to mating, it's a brave move.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 11:25 PM
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Huh, weird If we want to go down that route of "Personal experience bullshit anecdotes that's got 0 roots in science" I'd like to use mine: I speak to women, I enjoy myself, I talk to them like a normal person (HAH WEIRD RIGHT) and get great responses (Including very deep flirting and hinting by the end of the night, with being held back and pls stay/long messages after I left), but I can't do much since I have a gf so I'll just leave and go home like a human with a conscience who didn't aim for…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 11:21 PM
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"I don't care what people think their preferences are" Said by a person who obviously doesn't ask women what their preferences are oO
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 11:13 PM
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Or if they're, you know, just not into dicks. It's not really that hard, lots of women talk about it as well: "He seemed nice, but then he turned out to be a dick", not exactly uncommon. By your logic anyway, you'd get the same woman rejecting you if you weren't a dick, and just NOT get publicly called out, thus ruining your chances with other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 11:09 PM
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That's a fairer assessment than I give, usually if people tell me that they're an asshole I believe them x)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 09:55 PM
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wat, we must live in completely diferent worlds. Or have different definitions for when you hit 8/10+, as to me that's starting to get into the rare department.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 08:59 PM
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For a dude who thinks Spergs need help, that’s the most Spergy thing I’ve read on human interaction. That's just a response to my comment, how is that not a personal comment on me? Surely at least you got enough out of that comment and your armchair psychology to call what I said spergy oO
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 08:51 PM
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Dunno, I'd still not lower myself to someone I find to be a dick oO Huge turnoff, but whatever floats your boat I guess. Not really finding it works on most women either, at least here if they get a whiff of the guy being a dick they turn away from him fast. TRP isn't recommending relationships Still weird to me, up to the man and woman what they want, not what TRP thinks they should want.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 08:50 PM
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Doesn't work at all in my experience, heck, I've seen women call out the person being a dick very publicly. Also, even if it does work, the women reacting well to you being a dick, probably not the women you want to be around.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 08:12 PM
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Have a little brother with heavy aspergers, he definitely needs more help than me dating. Dunno what more to tell you, if you think human interaction is super easy you're luckier than me I guess? I do it well now, but it's been an uphill battle for me ^ (ADHD)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 08:11 PM
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The main overlap between BP and RP would be: Work out Work on your self-esteem Good personal hygiene Don't be a dick Any man can get women if they do these 4 (Heck, just 2/4 seems to be enough for a lot of men), if you can't, you've got other issues. It's not just "Hey ugly face" or "What a weird person he is". If you're doing these and struggling I recommend looking for places to socialize, where it is encouraged, if you socialize a lot with men that's also ok, as if they like you, they probabl…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 07:44 PM
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If a tactic works on her when she's single, it does not even remotely mean that it will work in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/18 09:21 AM
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There are liars indeed, but what you want me to do? At the very least the woman has tried communicating (And the man is a dick), if it's the man initiating it I don't expect he would bring up the question in the first place if he was JUST looking to score. Other way around is the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 09:16 PM
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Advice would be to communicate what you want fron the hookup. Do you want sex or LTR? Say something, if the other one seems to have an opposing opinion, you can either hash it out here as just sex, or just not have sex. Another one is to not slutshame women, as that is part of what causes this. Opposite with men, if they prefer emptional LTR's, don't shame them and call them betas. Should even the playing field a bit more, not perfectly I would wager, as men and women are different, but this sho…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/18 05:57 PM
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You said without evidence that "Take care of yourself and don't be socially inept"-men are the majority of dead bedrooms, without even a minor piece of evidence, but claim that the blue pill guy is narcissist? You need to back this dead bedroom claim up a lot harder lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/18 05:38 AM
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You just like using white knighting whem people disagree with you don't you? As it certainly doesn't apply here lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/18 08:09 AM
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I have no idea who these two women are. If two women being hypocrites would stop a movement like metoo, then it would've stopped in 2017. Way too fragile and weak. The point of metoo is that non-celebrity people are supposed to get heard by their employers and peers. Not that we're supposed to listen to every single famous person with an opinion. To me Terry Crews is a much more important face as well for it. Because it highlighted something I didn't take even half as seriously as I should (Even…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 07:58 PM
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They're all wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/18 03:09 PM
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That's not the same as everyone still, but I'd also love the study you're citing. I'd also love to see the same thing with the same woman 18-30 (One pic per year), and have 1k men rate them (Maybe 10-100 different women with the same setup)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/18 10:24 PM
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I'm pretty sure this is a faulty assumption, knowing a few men at older ages who prefer NOT sleeping with 18 year olds, but rather sticking to their own age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/18 04:45 PM
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Can you provide a source for the womens suffrage bit? I really can't find it and need some good statistical polling.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/18 09:02 AM
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Imagine the 1950's, where slutshaming was so high that women got married at 18 or stayed virgins out of fear of getting shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/18 08:59 AM
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So she married a broke "broke man"? Oo Poor parents can be great as well, but I have a feeling that poverty where you are from might be different from poverty here, as in almost all families afford a good life here, regardless of social status
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/18 08:51 AM
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once again 99% will get men, just shouldn't set their standards at: "Sexiest man alive" Though I have seen an ugly fat woman with a model, that's a rare case and shouldn't be expectations x)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/18 09:35 AM
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Height alone is not that magical, I wonder why that keeps getting focused on. Being extremely short can be detrimental, but as long as you're taller than the woman you're interested in it usually has little to no effect with the extra inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/18 08:16 AM
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The best part is, you know, he's not exactly, uhm, pretty. Bald before 30 and very short by Norwegian standards x) This sub is just too negative for mens prospects, I too am in a happy relationship, while I don't consider myself ugly, I'm not even close to what this sub would call "Chad" either. It's just way too negative imo
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 10:13 PM
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Dunno, not in the case of my friend. They bang a lot (The first time they had sex she said she wanted to wait, but couldn't hold back and basically jumped him), awaiting a baby and are being a very cute couple on the whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 10:05 PM
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That's extremely different from the "Personality is pseudo science" claim But I'd really love to see this study, it's effects and what actually increases SMV, because I can see an attractive person having a bigger playing field, but there's no way ugly people are sidelined.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 10:02 PM
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wat. Personality is definitely a thing, there's an entire SCIENTIFIC field of study on it. here to claim it's not a thing is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 09:38 PM
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Not super ugly for the most part, but not beautiful by any standard People genetically ugly can still do a lot, if they just work out a good self-esteem and fun personality. I've seen the fattest dudes get the hottest women, over the really hot guys. Multiple times. I've even seen a love at first sight scenario for a hot woman, and a dude I'd defo classify on the lower scale of attractive (He makes up for it so much in personality it's ridicolous) Blaming genetics is stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 09:14 PM
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You're like 10% right. Most if not all actors have had work done and they all do a lot of shit to stay pretty. Some people need to do less yes, but to be Hollywood level, a lot of work is put into that for most
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 08:59 PM
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Heck, ugly men can get attractive women, just show off good self-esteem and be fun to hang around. Those two alone will work wonders for the ugliest of dudes. There is bound to be a few attractive women(according to yourself) that enjoy your personality. While looks help with initial attraction, just being a fun guy is what makes them stay interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/18 08:57 PM
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If she feels she had to lower her standards and settle for me, I don't see how she loves me.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 10:00 PM
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"Uh, goodbye" Probably my initial reaction, I'd prefer a girlfriend who loved me, and didn't believe in pseudoscience, so that's one Huge NO and one medium no. No love, no relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/18 03:42 PM
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20 minute video: "Please watch the video in its entirety" No thanks. He's got no scientific sources in his description to back up what he's saying, so I don't care about his points. I'll go by the summary you gave. Dating a single mother will only waste your time and money. Single mothers meet single men and get married, sometimes for life, this keeps happening. Not always, probably more rarely than for singles without kids, but it happens a lot. For a lot of people this works out just fine, the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/18 08:19 PM
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oh, so grown up ^^ You'll get the last word after this, enjoy C:
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 03:10 PM
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Is that a source or something you need to win over someone as insignificant as myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 02:17 PM
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I'm so sad for you and how you didn't actually ignore it, from a nobody like myself! Still wondering about the sources of the women taking control in bed being ugly. Any day now
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 02:16 PM
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Damn, what a source, what a comeback, what a defense! I applaud your level of magically pulling shit out of your ass, even if nobody cares what I think of you, I enjoyed it. Also, don't answer stuff you don't care about, it definitely proves that you care :-/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 02:00 PM
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I always expect that you know stuff like this through the magic of pulling it out of your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/18 07:16 AM
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Dead end degree is a bit different than something that gave a high paying job though Once again it reflects poorly on decisionmaking, just like gambling or credit card debt
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 04:23 PM
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There's nothing scientific about this article, this is in no way an objectively proven difference. This is a made up list of things that men prefer
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 04:14 PM
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But these are in no way an "all men" kinda preference, while debt can be bad, it's so much about the type of debt (college, but now in a high paying job making the debt easily sustainable is very different from poor with gambling debt) Tattoos are about taste, just the same as with piercings (not a fan, but a few of my friends get going for them) A lot of people don't care about N-count, a lot of people do care about it. This is the male version of AWALT and it's ridicolous
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 07:31 AM
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1) all about the type of debt, but if it's sustainable from her side and we still can own a place to live, I'm good 2) don't give one shit, as long as she won't keep going after we get together it won't hurt me. 3) Tattoos can be hot as fuck. EDIT: I'd struggle with marrying a good christian woman, in fear of being bored to shit. This woman has no idea how all men think and uses the bible to support her claims, this is not scientific, just bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/18 07:19 AM
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My dick? It helps me a lot in fact, did you mean me BEING a dick? Well hey, I'm not so high and mighty I won't stoop to someone else's level
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 09:29 PM
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You being a dick hasn't helped anyone, that's not something you needed to tell me
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 09:17 PM
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Being a dick? It won't help you much, it will not change the fact that you're wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 08:04 PM
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Yaaaay stereotyping based on nothing, once again Weak
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 07:14 PM
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Well, then go to Europe and open your damn eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 09:20 AM
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I don't believe you for one second lol, unless there's something in the water of European, Israeli and Asian water that wherever you come from just don't have. Because there's a lot of 40's women here that pull in everything between 40 and 20 here if they so wish.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 09:06 AM
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Is that an American thing? Most women here are still good looking into their thirties, and if they want to get laid with someone they find attractive out on town, they will. They are also just as able to find love if they look for it without big troubles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/18 08:32 AM
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Also the divorce rate at 50% counts every single divorce from people who have been divorced more than once as well. The chance of being divorced again if you have divorced once is way higher than the divorce rate of your first marriage for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/18 10:48 AM
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Sure dude, if only all sexual attraction was looks, then you might be right. Self-confidence is much the same
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 08:18 PM
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TIL I am top 20%of men, and so is my shorter bald friend, who has pulled more tail than most of the prettier ones among our friends (back when we were single men ofc) According to this, way more of my male friends should never have stopped being single or have their one nighters.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/18 06:08 PM
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In fact did oO
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 03:51 PM
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I googled for these studies but couldn't find them, please link.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/18 02:03 PM
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I think both of is making that claim when we obviously have met differemt people is silly. Anecdotal shit and "most common view" are stupid assertions
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 09:23 AM
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Exception to the rule, by what statistic? Do you have stats on how many feminists believe women can't rape? Or do you just read angry tumblr blogs and scream "afalt! Afalt!"? Because judging feminism by tumblr is line judging the right in politics by /r/the_donald
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/18 02:50 AM
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Ah, it's just funny to me I guess. To the point that I would think it's a parody of the alfa male stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 04:53 PM
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"Boyfriend destroyers" just sounds so ridicolous that it could easily be satire, that's about the reasoning I got
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 04:20 PM
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Is this sarcasm? Genuinely curious
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/18 01:53 PM
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What's your study and sample size?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 03:28 PM
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Btw the studies I've read have both men and women below the tens for serious relationships One thay got linked here to prove that women cheat more (8%), but men were just behind at 6 or 7 in the same study Ofc this was all college aged , so it might be biased
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 09:10 AM
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Why are women who cheat more disgusting than men lol, what's your model?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/18 09:08 AM
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That's anecdotal and silly, one study for instance says that women with 5-9 partners are the most likely to stay married and not cheat. The reason? They're mostly early thirties and matured enough to prefer settling down. Even 20+ N-count has no significant evidence either or, and to be anecdotal, I know women with high N counts in 10 yr relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 04:22 PM
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Not actual evidence this If having a lot of sex is a habit, it does not mean cheating is a habit
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 04:18 PM
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High N count does not mean you're gonna cheat more lol, can people stop peddling this without evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/18 03:23 PM
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I have a question: Besides Tumblr blogs, where is this the definition of abusive? Also the last one part about actually abusive partners (Smacks her around, or, in other words, violence against a partner), do you have any research to back up that they will be more successful?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/18 05:45 PM
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Do you believe that this happens? Yes If so, is it due to the usually attributed causes? "Because he showed weakness"? Sometimes, but not nearly as often as you'd think More likely: He kept using her as only source of emotional support She had already fallen out of love with him and needed an excuse Maybe he was reaaaaally whiny about it? A lot of people when they open up, stop focusing on anything else besides their problems. I've had this happen to me as a male from women, and it's way too muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/18 12:49 AM
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And you, just like me or him, is not an evidence for all men. This is why I am saying that there's studies that suggest that he's wrong Like this study discussed right here, while this is the highest statistic I've ever seen for cheating, it's not even close to 50%, which makes it more likely that people don't cheat, but this does not seem to seperate emotional from sexual affairs.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 12:29 PM
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Monogamy is not natural, and men with options - those guys who aren't obese or too ugly - cheat on their partners all the time, no matter how happy and satisfied they are with their sex lives. Men want new pussy, always, and they'll even cheat on their hot girlfriends for some average pussy because it's new. Dunno dude, I've had tons of options, never cheated, never even tried. I'm not obese or ugly and have gotten specific comments about certain aspects of my looks, but you know, while I could …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 11:50 AM
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I have, 7 years going strong with same woman. If we ever fall out of love, we will break up, because not being in love would be stupid, and staying together after that would be silly. And you know what? We also have sex, but not in a "Duty sex" kinda way, we only have sex if we both want to, as lust is part of sex for us (This has included myself declining multiple times, but ofc on average it's more often her, because my sex drive is way higher as a man) Neither of us believe in the fairy tale …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 11:43 AM
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first of all, you clearly don't have much experience with sluts if you don't think there's a correlation between women with a high n-count and inability to pair bond. I don't know where you are from, but at least here in Norway I know a few women with this high N-count, and quite a few of them are in longer committed relationships. One is even amongst the few I know who are married (We're still rather young at 25 to be married yet here). So yes, I have some experience with "sluts", or you know, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 11:35 AM
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I've used Tinder in London, mostly it was "basic bitches" showing off about how many countries they've been to (seriously who gives a shit?) Dunno, I like women who like to travel, I'm sure I'm not the only man? And ofc if you base them as "basic bitches" based upon their Tinder description, you might be a bit biased. "with maybe 1 in 20 actually being interesting" Then that's your taste for interest? 1/3 actually being physically attractive. Still taste, for all I know the 1/3 is a full 10/10 f…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 11:12 AM
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Sexual affair Juices are being traded for pleasure when you've entered an agreement only to have sex with your spouse. Emotional affair IDK, some people care about this, but the feelings you share with a therapist is NOT the same as the feelings you share with your spouse. This is ridicolous. The therapist is there to help you work through emotional problems, whilst a spouse is there because of a mutual love. You don't love your therapist the way you love your spouse, if you do, you should proba…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 08:39 PM
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It don't have to be photoshopped, London is a city of 8M people, some people when it comes to dating apps, are in fact just stupid. Among 8M people you can easily find 5-10 women that are in fact pure idiots. It's actually more unlikely that you don't find really stupid people.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 07:57 PM
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I think even if you were an outlier, women operate as individuals just as men do. That's the entire point in the first place. They're not robots that operate by a script, if you could "figure out" women, you could prove 50% of the human population to be logical beings, which is just not a correct assertion. Humans are the most illogical pieces of crap I know of. My dog operates on more logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 07:54 PM
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We're seven, going on eight years, so they do indeed last. And after careful observation it's extremely unlikely that she's just settled for me, considering how popular she was among men as single.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 02:47 PM
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Man, the fact that there exists women that only care about income, does not mean that this is true for all women. Actually, this blanket statement is just wrong on so many levels
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 01:13 PM
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My gf of 7 years thought I looked like an awkward moron, but then we met multiple times after through mutual friends, and I won her over. Dat 15 second figure isn't the greatest.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 11:26 AM
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Pretty damn sure it does not, but it considers a sober person taking advantage of a dead drunk person rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/18 09:39 AM
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Sure man, we're talking about actual rape here, not stuff you've invented from thin air
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 11:14 PM
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The fact is that the numbers for rape/sexual assault is way higher than what crime numbers show (as seen through a lot of anonymous surveys). So there is a lot of reason to believe that the people coming out, in majority, are part of these dark numbers actually coming to light
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 07:06 PM
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As a man who enjoys statistics, hit me up
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 01:17 PM
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"Innocent until proven guilty" is not the same as "She made it up". The allegations are unproven either way, not a hard Proven or Disproven. So the true answer, before we've heard everything is: "we don't know" when allegations without evidence happen, but the allegations make it far more likely that something did happen, than if nobody said anything at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/18 01:11 PM
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What's your model?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/18 09:52 AM
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Really? It was "at least once in the past 4 weeks" Which means we know nothing of how many times on average these people actually had sex. You misrepresented the stats, well done EDIT: Also the question was "passionate sex", which many people see differently from just sex
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/18 07:22 AM
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Now, I deep dived into this study. Women do not lose interest in their partners, only women seem to really feel that they lose interest sexually (About 17% of women in a relationship lasting more than 3 years reported that they often experienced a lack of interest in sex, comparing to 1% of men) To say that "Women lose interest" is a long shot, when 83% of the asked did in fact not even lose sexual interest, and only 7% (Compared to 5% of men, very minor differences here, but it's true that wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/18 06:37 PM
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I'd be careful of calling men alpha or beta. Sure some of each exist, but the truth is simple, most men have somewhere where they prefer taking control, and other places where they don't want to or can't. Even that doesn't tell the whole story. Some meek men can take full control in the bedroom, some "alpha" men can go completely starfish. I think the alpha/beta settings are not good enough at describing someone with an outgoing personality that goes with the flow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/18 09:04 AM
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Not any less than a man. If you're broken up with over sms after a ltr, the person breaking up is spineless as hell. That shit is gender neutral. Abusive relationships are different ofc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/17 09:13 AM
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You really believe that employers are capable of perfectly following this? You can stay competetive with skilled white-men only, you just wouldn't be as high up as when you accept everyone purely based on skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 01:57 PM
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Wait, you think all employers are economic experts that change their worldviews just so they can get the Top-end workers? Most people have huge biases, including employers. If they can get a high-end white person instead of the best possible qualified person (who might not be either white or male), they will go for the white male. This is not something that is invisible in society, luckily there are improvements showing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/17 12:01 PM
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African or European swallow?
/r/MensRights05/06/17 12:42 AM
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Ok, I'm just bad with online sarcasm, sorry !
/r/MensRights25/06/15 08:17 AM
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I might have misunderstood you, so please tell me if I did and I will delete this comment no problem, but in case not: Some cases until rape/murder/home invasion! There is no way this is a 100% shut and done thing with ignoring. The worst part is that you seem like you would give it out as advice, I sincerely hope NO-ONE LISTENS to you. If stalked, go to authorities if he/she does not go away after being told to do so, they can persist for years. Crazy stalker person does also not need to be for…
/r/MensRights24/06/15 10:15 PM
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Dude, in front of people or nothing. There is no way you can be depressed without someone to talk to, that can kill you on the inside. I do not care what your impression of Women is, but I have in the past needed to cry on my SO's shoulder. And me and my male have supportsupportedteachfriendsthroughrdark crying The people you guys meet are just shit.
/r/MensRights14/04/15 05:47 PM
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"The tenacity of placing something on video to shoot a young lady being beat down by six or seven young women is ludicrous in our community," it doesn't refer to them as girls, but this thing should have them tried as women, not girls(Also does not only call them teens). This is disgusting and people doing this should be tried as adults. The psychological damage from this is ten times worse than the physical one.
/r/MensRights12/03/15 04:44 PM
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It's weird though, most of the stuff I read says that they are in NO WAY defending this woman. Some people are saying it's coming from a string of abuse, some don't defend it even that much. Note: I Ctrl + F'd this page and it never said "Men cannot be raped" ONCE in the thread that I could find that was in the positives upvoted.
/r/MensRights04/03/15 11:49 PM
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1/6 vs 1/7 is still more likely for women, though about even. Surprise, we're all dicks, but we're all in it together!
/r/MensRights23/06/14 02:40 AM
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And what if he's actually traumatized so bad that he's fearing sexual encounters again? Or that he's pushing himself to have sex a lot(even though he doesn't want to), so that he can forget the woman of his childhood? This happens, it's a problem.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 10:05 AM
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Can I get to see a link to that? Just curious to read about it.
/r/MensRights21/06/13 10:01 AM
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It's not like you can abort past 12 weeks right? When it's 12 weeks old it's more like an empty shell, that has yet to start living. Anything after that, it's got blood going through it's body, causing brain activity. Before the brain there's nothing of importance there compared. Life without brain activity has the same value as a tree.
/r/MensRights17/05/13 03:07 AM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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