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Edu./Occu.Time-Dot-6608/r/MensRights01/07/26 12:43 PM
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Huh ? The mental load of it all ? Why would I be taking any mental load of a reddit post - the first question had clarifiers… To be honest, I find/ found the question odd. I wouldnt be having a child with a person I didnt trust - and would expect the same of them. There is a fair bit of “blind” trust that goes into a parenting relationship, hence why they shouldnt be entered into lightly. I would be worried about paranoia and the insecurity, and whether that level of insecurity would push into o…
/r/MensRights20/07/26 12:59 AM
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The response was nuanced. Not to paternity testing generally- but to my situation with my ex ( and generally healthy long term relationships). Had i fallen pregnant to any random hook ups on Hinge/Tinder/Red Hot Pie whatever post split- then (asides from the fact that it would’ve been dealt with prior to any paternity claim), I would have no issue with paternity testing. But yes, in that relationship, after financially supporting the family, birthing ( and nearly dying after the 3rd kid), joint …
/r/MensRights19/07/26 10:48 PM
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I know that isnt how statistics work. I was drawing out the ridiculousness of the “statistic”. Which hasn’t been given any source, and regardless is based on a “testing for doubt” model. Using it as a baseline is misrepresentation as was my comment a misrepresentation- both statements were misrepresentations…
/r/MensRights19/07/26 03:50 PM
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No. But i thought that the issue was who is responsible for the costs of the child ? Not who cheated or didnt cheat ?
/r/MensRights19/07/26 02:19 AM
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Not so much “compensation”. However, as parents/potential parents most (reasonable) people will attempt to make positive health decisions in light of the health of their children. One can have somewhat control over eating well, not drinking /doing drugs etc. However, conceiving requires unprotected sex. Now- if I was starting a relationship with someone - before moving to “ barrier free” sex - I would/ and request they would have STD testing. Ie. Lets start with an informed state. Having the tes…
/r/MensRights19/07/26 01:40 AM
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If that was a pre- arrangement (like conditions of a contract- I suppose that is something a person could negotiate or walk away from - those things are different- somewhat like a prenuptial arrangment?). Would they both be as prepared to have open phone access/ locations/ 3 monthly STI tests throughout the relationship so that they can be assured required to have 100 % blind trust that all are faithful within the relationship ?
/r/MensRights18/07/26 11:50 PM
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Speaking of mis-representation… Shall we use those same statistics to show that 70 % of men are trying to avoid financial and parenting responsibilities through false allegations ?
/r/MensRights18/07/26 11:41 PM
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Given that your relationship has ended, was tarred with dishonesty, contradiction and threats- it seems reasonable to obtain a DNA test. I don’t have an issue with a DNA test generally- If it offers surety and peace of mind in these circumstances- ok. Me myself- If my ex-husband had of asked me for a DNA test for our shared children - it would have been obtained- and I would have walked with the children out the door earlier. For me, It would have absolutely destroyed our relationship (from my p…
/r/MensRights18/07/26 11:14 PM
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Some dreams feel really real… Ive woken up ready to beef and walk out the door, checked my childrens beds- and slid in next to them after dreaming something happened to them, and woken up ready to ride my partner for days after a porny dream… Do we realise its reality after a few minutes or so.. sure… but in those few minutes- it can seem like a alternate reality. Thankfully no one in my house lets me sleep long enough to have REM sleep and dream… so thats a benefit ? I guess?
/r/MensRights15/07/26 01:14 PM
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I could only see your response as a notification- not as a post in response. Thus, I could only see the first line which was upset that I hadnt posted in the correct place. Hence… edit to move post. Maybe because my initial post had an Image/video ( which is now not available) Oh no, the chutzpah, the audacity…
/r/MensRights08/07/26 12:37 PM
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So- you chose a more graphic book (that I haven’t read - as opposed to a more “standard” romance like A court of thorn and roses / fourth wing… which are a mainstream version of such… This is an excerpt… like sure, suggestive, sexual… but I dont know what kind of porn you have seen but when the stuff I have seen is eyes watering deep throating, POV face sitting, up close cock thrusting… I am seeing a fair chasm between the two ? (Sorry for the incorrect placement of response- I use my phone - a…
/r/MensRights07/07/26 01:55 PM
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So- you chose a more graphic book (that I haven’t read - as opposed to a more “standard” romance like A court of thorn and roses / fourth wing… which are a mainstream version of such… <video> This is an excerpt… like sure, suggestive, sexual… but I dont know what kind of porn you have seen but when the stuff I have seen is eyes watering deep throating, POV face sitting, up close cock thrusting… I am seeing a fair chasm between the two ?
/r/MensRights07/07/26 12:50 PM
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I have a lot of thoughts on this (not judgy or bad just older person - lots of partners different perspective thinking- which is probably unhelpful on a subreddit.) I don’t think that there is any mental illness involved in “visual stimulation”- we all learn/perceive things differently in our heads. So, please don’t hold that “factor” as a detriment, to yourself as a human or as a character flaw. Some people are more visual, some people learn hands on, some are more word based. Sometimes there a…
/r/MensRights07/07/26 12:11 PM
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Real question- for those of you likening porn to “romantasy” have you delved into that ? Like what “romantasy” looks like ? Have you looked at different models of porn- that for a male gaze vs a female gaze ? Do you distinguish a difference in content - or not ? Because I watch porn- traditional stuff my partner shares, general stuff, female centred porn, and have recently started reading some “romantascy” because I wanted to see what it is like (after similar conversations here). Can we not dis…
/r/MensRights07/07/26 11:18 AM
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I mean its a bit of a fucked double standard all around though- isnt it ? Men also want pure/ not high body count/ not overly “run in” models (not every man- but common day “chat” seems to be about that - “less is more”) … However, if the woman has a low libido, not super interested in sex, dead bedrooms, not wanting to do all the things (BJ’s, Anal, super expressive shit) then - also bad. Maybe we could all stop shaming people (of every gender) for expressing normal, healthy sexual desires - be…
/r/MensRights07/07/26 11:11 AM
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Is the issue the sexual pleasuring or the content though?
/r/MensRights07/07/26 10:58 AM
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Yeah- i think it happened with an online “look at me” culture. A small percentage of people I know would be impressed by big displays of ostentatiousness. Most would prefer genuine connection at a “normal” space doing “normal” things . Maybe projecting - but i had an ex marriage partner who would spend $1000’s on gifts etc that were expensive but not needed nor wanted nor chosen with me/my interests in mind. My current partner doesnt have $, instead he may buy my fave flavoured donut, and pop a …
/r/MensRights06/07/26 11:26 AM
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And every so often a post comes along that makes me remember that reality exists… Not because you pay- but no one needs to be paying stupid money in the early days of dating, coffee, an ice cream, a walk, a trip to a free exhibit/ location. This is a getting to know you situation. Fuck it- I would prefer to catch up with friends or a potential date over a bit of toast - and have real conversations and fun then the false crap (cause that aligns with my values). If someone wants all the fancy stuf…
/r/MensRights06/07/26 11:18 AM
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I would tend to agree with this perspective over the other. I think that sex can be had without “real” intimacy and it can still leave you feeling (meh…) whereas, when its combined with someone invested in you, sharing life and generally giving a shit- thats when the “magic” happens.
/r/MensRights06/07/26 11:03 AM
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Woman here. Disagree with the first paragraph. Women (and men who are into men) find men sexually appealing. And two men together… ummm…can be very appealing. So I don’t necessarily think its that… Heated Rivalry had a huge following in both the LGBTIQA community and in straight communities- yes yay for representation- but also, there is a large group of people who found the content hot.
/r/MensRights06/07/26 05:20 AM
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The article was interesting. All people had higher levels of disgust for male usage of sex tech, not just women. It also noted the differences between male/ female disgust generally (where women have higher levels of disgust - for anything/everything). It spoke of the 3 different elements of disgust (pathogen/moral/sexual disgust) but noted that was not really explored in this study, but is likely relevant to some perceptions. Ie. My partner and I have a drawer full of sex toys (but those that h…
/r/MensRights06/07/26 12:04 AM
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You have stated she never really was into sex, and that was ok- and now its not. So there was an incompatibility there from the beginning. Have you discussed other alternatives? Opening up the marriage/ swinging/prostitution? What has been her thoughts/ comments about it from the start ? Has she never had a drive? Intitated anything ? Has it been since children? Work/life? How does she explain it ? What does she doesn’t care look like? What does that conversation look like - about your needs? Is…
/r/MensRights05/07/26 11:18 PM
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Yep. Most people are good/ or okay/ or not shit. No big news there.
/r/MensRights05/07/26 12:02 PM
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The mockery ? I’ve only seen/heard of enjoyment/ mockery coming from children. For the most part people are more likely to respond with a more visceral/ wince response. I don’t have a set of balls, but have played with enough/ lived life long enough to recognise that its incredibly painful/sensitive area. The only time where It seems normalised to be targeted is more in a self defense style tactic- otherwise surely its all a negative.
/r/MensRights05/07/26 11:52 AM
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Hmmm. I don’t live in the US, where I presume you do. But I do live in a country where white “caucasion” people are presumed to be the majority. In reality we have a multicultural society, which I love, value and appreciate. As a white caucasion person, I absolutely have an easier path than many others. Sometimes other cultural or ethnic groups are the majority in spaces that I am (education : specialist secondary/university). But, honestly, they have for the most part worked far harder, sacrifi…
/r/MensRights04/07/26 01:50 PM
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Its a national training program, made by the government for all child facing employees (child care, schools, etc). Its also new- and required to be completed by end August - so reflective of current thinking and information. There are also some helplines which serve men in this environment which are in a pinned post on this subreddit- but understand the reasons behind the reluctance, to seek help also. Sadly- police assistance and support mechanisms are flawed in many ways (towards all victims, …
/r/MensRights01/07/26 01:22 PM
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Yeah - it is… it also extends to those who claim government welfare ie. single parenting payments. Even if you spend a night a week with a bf/gf - that can be classed as a defacto relationship- and thus removed from higher level of benefit.
/r/MensRights30/06/26 11:40 AM
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They are likely to agree with Dr Momma Cat?). No one owes sex to anyone. Male or female. Married or not. I think its important to distinguish between abusive murderous cunts and the general population. To reiterate the above poster- this is a tragic senseless crime- and I hope she rots.
/r/MensRights30/06/26 05:23 AM
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Yes- of course. Common toddler/child/teen fodder Dworkin, Ford, Solanas,Gearhart… Children are taught to keep their hands to themselves. Both boys and girls. They talk about staying in your own bubble. If we are using these extremists as the ideology of “all women” then by the same measure are we using extremist ideology/ manosphere grifters as the baseline of male action? No of course not.
/r/MensRights29/06/26 02:31 AM
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I think thats just what is required in a modern work force these days (I am older -45) and what was ok or “politically correct” or just turned a blind eye too many years ago probably needed more filtering. Whether we are now in an overcorrection? Maybe? But it is also appropriate for the needs and sensitivity of the newer workforce….
/r/MensRights28/06/26 11:43 AM
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There is probably a couple of rationales. Some may want to intrude because they feel that they are being left out of something that they many want/need to know? And others may share the interest? Mens shed - men tinkering together, mens rotary - men fundraising together ? Mens gyms- men sweating together ? What are we calling predominantly mens interests etc ? Often it depends on the ideology. If rotary is about community building and fundraising - why need it be gendered? If its about strengthe…
/r/MensRights28/06/26 11:33 AM
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Why are we bringing triangles into this?
/r/MensRights28/06/26 11:23 AM
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Hardly. There are violent manupulative coercivr cunts who are women as there are violent manipulative cunts who are men. Women are not “taught” that hitting men is ok- we are taught not to hit anybody. There are always outliers who buck the norms - and are violent (often those with generational history but not always).
/r/MensRights28/06/26 11:20 AM
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It is both. Women can be cunts and men can be cunts. Disturbingly common seems an overstatement of either gender. However- children are most definitely used as pawns by both gendered parents unfairly in custody battles…. And this story is a fucking trqgedy
/r/MensRights28/06/26 11:15 AM
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I’d probably change the first statement… to your lived experience is not representative of my (your) lived experience. Inclusive of the men who may frequent this sub . Which like other subs is more likely to be frequented by those who have had negative experiences - not necessarily all men. Because - like anyone else… we all have a myriad of mixed experiences- and how we choose to attribute them, and benchmark them in our worlds changes our world view. No one needs to downplay shit (we are all d…
/r/MensRights28/06/26 11:11 AM
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Curiosity killed this cat. What are the perceived “benefits” of the dystopian handmaids tale that the Trad wives wish to reclaim?
/r/MensRights21/06/26 01:18 AM
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Ive found this too, in the sense of parents taking kids into change rooms, that people tend to stick to taking the kids into the appropriate (to the adult gender) restroom. It tends to get iffy around the time of double digits (generally because the adults in the bathroom tend to become more conscious). There is generally work arounds (like family bathrooms/wearable towels/ take them home). I have in earlier years been guilty of the drunken bathroom hop. Reading posts on here has brought it to m…
/r/MensRights16/06/26 10:56 AM
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I don’t understand the double standard though. If “pair bonding “ is so important to you - why are you sleeping around with others if it is not a value you want from your partner ? The things you describe seem to be more about avoidant attachment - and using the “body count” as your out rather than than pair bonding. At the end of the day you can want what you want. But it seems disingenuous to say, pair bonding and purity is important to me, but not act accordingly yourself.
/r/MensRights15/06/26 01:05 PM
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Genuine question: Why don’t you think that society will allow men to do that ? What “society” are you referring to ? The objections I have seen to it is from men concerned about injecting something into their penis (which seems a relative concern). So- who is the “society” that is concerned ? The religious zealots?
/r/MensRights07/06/26 05:35 AM
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Bahaha. This is how ALL decisions to have a child should go. Why would anyone not be ok with that? Some cunts - both genders - intentionally entrap the other party into having a child. Some people - use birth control with the best of intentions and things still fuck up. Some people have wanton disregard for using birth control properly and then have to deal with the potential outcomes of that situation. If there is an effective male contraceptive that works to stop unwanted children. Great. Anot…
/r/MensRights06/06/26 06:39 PM
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What are you stating that men’s traditional sexual expression is - and how are women denying it ? ( I am sorry if my vulgar reference wasnt on target- but I presumed that you were talking about women turning down men for sex? ) And yes- in some places marital rape still exists and women can’t rape men… but rape is different … and still doesnt give an automatic right. And likewise everyday I open an app and realise that peoples rights are being taken away- so maybe men will have the right to sex-…
/r/MensRights06/06/26 07:38 AM
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Denying men traditional sexual expression ? Wtf does that even mean? Denying them a hole to cum in ? There there… No one has a “right” to sex. No one is stopping you from cumming solo. If this offers a safe solution to birth control- fecking Hooray…
/r/MensRights06/06/26 07:16 AM
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No one should be circumcised regardless of religion - there is absolutely no reason for it (asides from medical purposes where less invasive measures have failed (and with the full consent of the penis owner). Religion should be irrelevant. Why anyone would look at a perfect infant/child/ adult and want to unnecessarily mutilate them is beyond my understanding.
/r/MensRights30/05/26 10:37 AM
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I am a generally well educated woman with a lot of similarly educated friends- who are for the most part the main financial contributors to the families. Not one or two, the majority of my friendships. The world is changing, but people want to rely on traditional ideas of man -provider , woman - spender, whereas the situation can be quite different.
/r/MensRights29/05/26 09:32 PM
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Really? I could financially support my partner. I have done so previously in the past. My current partner would prefer to go to a foodbank over accepting any assistance. However- thats more of these gendered pressures that people hang on to. If you, as a man want to /or dont want to make tour loved ones lives easier- why is it so hard to believe that of the other way? If i care about someone I want to make their lives (easier/better), whether that is financially, sexually, cared for, emotionally…
/r/MensRights29/05/26 01:41 PM
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No one is stopping you from getting out there and finding yourself a rich man or rich woman to bank roll you. I’m not sure that investment bankers have it any harder than builders or janitors or miners or police people, or bricklayers or teachers. They work hard, and get more financial rewards associated with the risk.
/r/MensRights29/05/26 12:20 PM
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It was called sarcasm. Because I clearly dont think that it was a “positive” defence. I don’t think its beneficial to “frame” men as “ if they wanted to they could have”…. How is that helpful? To show how big and powerful a group of 14 year olds can be ? To emphasise that they are “restraining” themselves from being predators as if thats running against the norm and needing of a certificate of honour ? Most men don’t prey on women, and live side by side peacefully - you know - in society. No one…
/r/MensRights26/05/26 12:17 PM
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Which shouldn’t be a point at all. Thats meant to be normal. People get in a lift, and people get out of a lift. Transport for lazy cunts and mobility impaired ( oh, and thats me, a lazy cunt). What the fuck is the “point” of some looming menacing threat? Its not helpful or truly representative, it just places men/teens in a potential predator framing. Which is no better or more helpful than what the banshee did.
/r/MensRights26/05/26 11:32 AM
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I dont think people can afford to retire. Thats why they are still there working harder- especially with the cowt of living so high and shitty welfare options. This stat still shows that women are percentage wise participating less- so you want them to do more ?
/r/MensRights24/05/26 06:10 AM
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I dont disagree that her behaviour according to this report was uncalled for. I just think using a “ they could have done something against her will” is also counterproductive. Why would that threat be your fall back.
/r/MensRights22/05/26 01:37 AM
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So your “positive” defence of men is to assure everyone that if men had of wanted to they could ? how lucky for her…
/r/MensRights21/05/26 07:25 AM
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Published rates in the UK range from 21-31% of pregnancies end in abortion, rare- not so much.
/r/MensRights19/05/26 09:42 PM
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I think you may wish to consider a look at the “abortion” rates. This is hardly a “rare” event.
/r/MensRights19/05/26 12:13 PM
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Just like your gynocracy is a projection- doesn’t exist.
/r/MensRights17/05/26 05:19 AM
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Interesting. So women grow up out of positions of power ? Or you are suggesting that women are taught to leave the “hard things” for men ? The hard things being “leadership” ? Whereas family structure suggest that women are often in co-leadership roles ? Genders are often conditioned differently- which is a what of modern discourse suggests is not helpful. Whether you or I attribute it to the patriarchy/ or feminism is kind of besides the point.
/r/MensRights17/05/26 03:35 AM
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Don’t really understand second half of paragraph 2. Women grow up ? Can you explain more ?
/r/MensRights17/05/26 02:48 AM
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Both women and men can be perpetrators. Both men and women can be victims. We should hold the perpetrators to account.
/r/MensRights16/05/26 10:43 PM
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Totally agree. Taken hundreds of ubers/taxi’s etc. Both male and female drivers. The majority of the time, things are ok (as we expect). But on 10-15 trips I have felt uncomfortable, had someone attempt to ask for more, touch me inappropriately, hold me in the car for longer than necessary. Only a couple would have been firmly sexual assault (minor) but many just not cool, pushy behaviour- that most don’t have to face. Lets look at is realistically- many times when taking these forms of transpor…
/r/MensRights15/05/26 01:13 PM
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So- put aside money for your kid. I don’t know the child support fraction where you are- but I have paid it before to the other parent when they had shared custody- and the “government allotted” amount was a tiny fraction of the cost it takes to bring up a kid- so I paid above that amount. Now have full custody- I was financially far better off when paying child support (because kids cost a lot), the care costs are higher, work flexibility far lower, and the energy depletion of 24/7 parenting ha…
/r/MensRights12/05/26 06:01 PM
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Rape laws should 100 percent be gender neutral. Thank you for mentioning that isnt the case in NZ. Regardless of whether a rape law was accessible as it is in Australia in a gender neutral way. The original article stated that there was no penetration, penetration (for the lesser act of sexual connection as it is in NZ) requires penetration (whether by fingers/ object/ or genitals) and any oral contact is included in that. If they have a sex toy, fingers , any other object or a mouth they can pe…
/r/MensRights29/04/26 01:23 PM
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No. There is a lot of differences. The lack of penetration being the main one. The intention being another. But yeah yeah… rape and sexual assault are EXACTLY the same….
/r/MensRights29/04/26 11:52 AM
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I entirely agree that what occurred was wrong, and that charges should have been laid. However- most can distinguish between an abhorrent event where a person was drawn on, left with lube and sex toys used (without penetration) and videos and images taken, by a bunch of intoxicated people ; which is a sexual assault - no doubt. But it is distinguishable from the other crimes. With a married woman whose husband drugged her, raped her, and had a revolving door of more than 70 men come in to rape h…
/r/MensRights29/04/26 11:03 AM
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Surely you are not comparing this to the Pelicot case?
/r/MensRights29/04/26 09:43 AM
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Congratulations on your upcoming baby and your beautiful son. What is currently occuring is not sustainable long term. You need more sleep and recovery time- and she needs it also - so something else has to shift. All of those “friends” and “families” who are intruding. How are they helping ? Perhaps rather than throwing shade they could be offering concrete help/assistance. Because what I found during the early years of parenting is that every damn human seems to have an opinion/ but unless the…
/r/MensRights25/04/26 01:10 PM
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It will depend on the law in the country. I know that our Crimes Act has an exemption - for medical procedures done “in good faith”. Now, in Australia the AMA has spoken out about it - and no longer recommends circumcision, nor is it a publicly funded procedure anymore. It can still be performed in a private setting though. I agree that they should be outlawed (as a routine non consensual act)- obviously for those adults who choose to do it for aesthetic or complicating factors- it should be ok.…
/r/MensRights25/04/26 12:34 PM
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You are right- women (generally) have a preference for clean genitals. I am pretty sure men (generally) have a preference for clean genitals too. That has nothing to do with the existence or absence of foreskin - just hygiene.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 12:17 PM
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Hmmm… and that’s if you are “lucky” enough to have it done in a surgical room. As many religious circumcisions are done on the knee of “honoured” family friend- who is tasked with holding the infant still whilst a “trained” but not necessarily doctor religious dude hacks at it. This is done in living rooms, whilst guests munch on bagels and croissants. They seem to have moved towards using a pipette/gauze to remove excess blood rather than the traditional oral extraction method (in more liberal …
/r/MensRights25/04/26 12:13 PM
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Agreed. Its easier to hold everyone/everything else accountable instead of selves.
/r/MensRights25/04/26 11:18 AM
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I live in a country where there is the option for single sex/coeducation in schools. Although much of the secondary option is user pay (there is less for no fee pay). Like anything there was pros and cons. Neither of them enjoyed them, as it was super strict and more punitive. High levels of bullying. But studies/ learning styles can “in theory” be more curated- but that can be good or bad too. It depends if you are more aligned with “traditionally” masculine areas - ie. woodwork/ heavy science …
/r/MensRights25/04/26 11:14 AM
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You literally just posted these stats in a different handbag like two weeks ago. The stats were bogus then as they are now- but as I also agreed last time - the fireservice is pretty accurate. Better be careful with your stats too about the “95 million” last I read there was only 1000 on the telegram group that was referenced. The ONLY reason women are safe is because of men ? Just like the women saying its all ALL men- this is just as divisive. I understand the female only Uber service. I’m gla…
/r/MensRights25/04/26 10:42 AM
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All autistic people present differently. Some have more externalising behaviours and some with more internalised behaviours. Yes- people are more likely to be diagnosed when behaviour causes the NT people discomfort. Ie. More externalised behaviour. Who says that girls are not primed to “curate and manage” masking skills. Or that with less externalising behaviour (male or female) diagnoses are not delayed. Fear plays a huge role in how people/children behave. Its part of the reason why behaviour…
/r/MensRights21/04/26 12:10 PM
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There are a whole lot of generalisations in there- and I am not saying that there isn’t some truth in there. However, its not as simplistic as saying that, as we all know men and women (or boys and girls) are treated differently, socialised differently and face different challenges. Often one of the big factors is externalising vs internalising behaviours. Kids generally who internalise their despair will be overlooked vs those who externalise it (whether it be for Autism / or many other factors…
/r/MensRights21/04/26 11:49 AM
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I do. It doesn’t end well. Alas- its still important to have the discussion. However- I prefer to hold the decision makers/perpertrators accountable.
/r/MensRights21/04/26 11:42 AM
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Wow. Big statements. Where does this theory stem from?
/r/MensRights21/04/26 11:31 AM
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Apologies sorry - directed at the wrong person- It was more the “all modern women are whores”. I’m an angry human tonight.
/r/MensRights21/04/26 11:27 AM
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By that theory can we say “it is all men ?” Silence or arguing statistics? I see what you are attempting to say- but I think think rather than saying women will no longer send me to war. At least make it gender neutral- cause both are silent - but men are signing on those decisions. As humans we don’t need to agree with them everyone who is the same gender, race, religion. People who send people to war against their will are fuckwits. People who start or invoke wars because they are narcissistic…
/r/MensRights21/04/26 11:12 AM
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I’ll bite. 1 x old man who raped me for the years between the ages of 8-13. 30-40 x men who were far older (between 25-50 years) old when I was 14-16 ( all are “technically” rape- however- I also “consented”- weird the shit you do when you have been fucked over for years) oh, then I got married … I was 17 when I met him- he was nearly 30…. Yep… I’m the hoe….
/r/MensRights21/04/26 11:04 AM
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I think those numbers need statistics. What are the “factors” that mean promiscuous? Seems like a lot of judgement on women having sex. Sheesh- it might mean they enjoy it… whats the problem with that?
/r/MensRights21/04/26 10:58 AM
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Hahahaha. They are not. I also think that yes- there is a percentage of women who care about size. Just as there is a percentage of men who care about innies or outies, or big boobs or small. Most people are just happy to be getting naked and enjoying sex with other parties. However- size is less relevant… giving a shit about mutual enjoymet. Is more important. Which if you spent much time reading female comments anywhere … you would know. But thank you for the confirmation that you think all (m…
/r/MensRights21/04/26 10:54 AM
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Fair. i wouldn’t want to be forced to go to war either. Which female leader made that decision? I disagree with war, forced conscription etc. However, push come to shove - yes- it should be both sexes who are sent (said as a parent of children in that age group). However, Since we are sending people to die- lets send the old fuckers who are sick of this shit, and angry as fuck…
/r/MensRights21/04/26 10:43 AM
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If this “theory” helps you sleep soundly at night - go for it. However- the feminists are not the ones “supporting” this. Feminists fought for the right to be able to work, be seen as something other than baby makers and other rights. No self respecting feminist is waiting for a man to provide for her, open a door, or stop him from stepping up into manly things like child rearing and housework. This SHOULD be the advantage of a more equal landscape. In a relationship two people can work, or nego…
/r/MensRights21/04/26 10:38 AM
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Thats a long stretch. I don’t believe that an only fans model is setting the tone for ALL women. Just as I wouldn’t judge ALL men if an individual chooses to pay for OF content. As long as the people are freely consenting to take part in that exchange ? Ill take my chances about my impending damnation- I’d hate to hear your thoughts on the sex clubs/ swingers places I attend.
/r/MensRights18/04/26 01:37 PM
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Odd. I mean I can’t speak for all women here, but I have never put any thought into any one on only fans. I have no idea nor care about what they may be posting - because I can’t access it (as I am not going to pay for that content). - For reference- I would watch free porn (so not because i have a morality issue with it). If an only fans model is telling a dude that she would do “x,y and z” to him via a screen - how does that make a woman jealous (esp more than an irl sex worker etc). We recogn…
/r/MensRights18/04/26 01:07 PM
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We all have to do the verfication; men and women alike. Thats not demonising male sexuality. Its putting some form of barrier on accessing it. Realistically its probably more about tracking and tracing people and their watching more officially- but they were doing that before through cookies etc
/r/MensRights18/04/26 12:54 PM
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Hegseth is likely a more vocal correspondent, but I think probably representative- I think its always been part of the policing culture problem, its changing but infinesimallly slowly. But that in itself is multifaceted too. I can 100% understand that working for the police would be an isolating, under appreciated role, and sometimes dangerous role (probably moreso in the States then here) and that certain types of attitudes/demeanours etc are more likely to be somewhat protective to groups of p…
/r/MensRights18/04/26 02:55 AM
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The stats were for active duty police - the percentages of those in administrative roles was closer to 50-60%. But you are right in the sense that many women are excluded from some of the more “front line” police stuff- because they are delegated into other roles- not necessarily because they want to be. Moreso because policing workplace culture emulates male dominating traits and women are shoved out of these roles. https://academic.oup.com/policing/article/doi/10.1093/police/paad060/7317435
/r/MensRights17/04/26 05:48 AM
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But its not “men being into women”- thats a rapist victimising someone - and cunts in online comment sections saying shit like “ wish my teacher had done that”. Thats not demonising men being into women.
/r/MensRights17/04/26 03:58 AM
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Both of those are abhorrent illegal acts. Thats not about mens sexuality, thats assault. I think regardless of gender typecasting that as anything of sexuality other than rape- diminishes the act.
/r/MensRights17/04/26 02:47 AM
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It’s not ALWAYS men in these roles. The statistics on that are changing- in part because of targetted actions to change the landscape of these fields. Although, probably scan down a few threads and there will be complaints about women being targetted for “male dominated” roles. Stats here (in Aus) 51-56% paramedics are women 25-30% of police are women 2-5 % of firefighters are women (these numbers are still really low- I wonder if this is also about the physicality side of the role). 25-30% volu…
/r/MensRights16/04/26 11:47 PM
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I’m with the others. I still don’t understand. How are they demonising men being into women ?
/r/MensRights16/04/26 11:15 PM
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Hmmm. Thats a lot of self sabotage. You don’t mention any specific eventa where this has actualised - just fear of the potential of something occuring . Is this not part if the OCD and catastrophising? Good luck
/r/MensRights14/04/26 01:49 PM
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It may be more helpful to add some type of location / jurisdiction information as it will be relevant to the type of advice/jurisdiction/ relevance of experience anyone can offer. As you have discovered unless you are eligible for legal aid (most aren’t especially for family law issues), there is going to be a hefty financial outlay. How is the current state of play between you ? Civil? Or contemptous? Have a good think about what you are seeking both in regards to financial outcomes, and child-…
/r/MensRights14/04/26 01:43 PM
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There is mens only gyms in Australia.
/r/MensRights13/04/26 05:43 AM
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I haven’t seen any for a while (not that I am looking for them) and yes there was a variety of “types” of posts. Some seemingly about actual creeps (and I agree that both genders have quantifiable “creeps or crazies” that should be warned against. In the olden days we just wouldn’t recommend a friend to pursue them… however the apps made that harder. There was a lot of heat on posters however who posted about “ does anyone know/ or is dating this person” - these would be viscerally attacked with…
/r/MensRights11/04/26 12:04 PM
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Yeah - good idea everyone deserves a day off. It would work here too (although from the number of men on the golf courses and wearing lycra bike riding near me), I believe we coukd just call it the weekend. Then in Australia the 45 % (and rising) of female doctors could care for you if you run into an emergency from the risky “hunting/skateboarding etc” activities - lets not even discuss nurses, cause the doctors would be screwed without them. One of the 51-56% of female paramedics could escort …
/r/MensRights11/04/26 11:53 AM
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Both men and women bitch about paying alimony/ child support to the other person. Its just that when women do it - it gets more media. Ie. Recently Sia. Realistically its just how the penny rolls. (I am a female who paid “spousal maintenance” in a country that doesn’t have “alimony” as a regular situation.) No one WANTs to pay it- but if their has been disparity and sacrifice on the SAHP, and disparity in positions - it is currently the reality. I do still argue that except in limited circumstan…
/r/MensRights11/04/26 11:22 AM
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I think this focus of not going into private spaces (or the what were you wearing /drinking/doing) with strangers is also unhelpful. It creates the idea of a “mysterious bad person” when the reality is that most of these crimes occur between known people- partners, acquaintances, and dates. Too much focus is placed on the dark alleys/ and keys lodged between fingers- when the perpetrators are (largely) within the inner circle to begin.
/r/MensRights11/04/26 11:14 AM
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This is NOT what this statistic says. It says that they are killed by someone that they know. Between 61% -68 % of (indigenous)* -see edit - people are killed by non indigenous people. The impact of colonisation, racism and shitty treatment and dehumanisation of indigenous people is a huge part of these numbers, including a number murdered by police. Part of the reason that they focus on gender is to detract/deflect from the racist realities of the situation. Its “more palatable” to focus on ind…
/r/MensRights11/04/26 11:03 AM
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Dude… if you throw shade around… about … well…random… shit…then… expect… it to come back….
/r/MensRights08/04/26 08:51 PM
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Clearly not the person who failed you. “Some” prefer more traditional/conservative - some is defined as an unspecified amount or number of things… oh and “they?”
/r/MensRights08/04/26 08:41 PM
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Sheesh. Who pissed in your weetbix? You know as well as I do that this sub has many a type of person- some prefer more traditional /conservative (regressive) styles of “feminine behaviour”. No rocket science there. No argument on the issues /stereotypes/ barriers men face in volunteering/ being in child facing positions.
/r/MensRights08/04/26 10:43 AM
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No need for apologies- it’s reddit- no one owes anyone a “speedy” response. Everyone lives in different corners of the globe with different work and responsibilities. Sorry - a neurodivergent cunt ( the cunt) is likely a cultural regional thing - as an Australian we tend to use it a lot. In this way it can be used a positive or negative thing (which probably needs tone or context) or a noun. In this context a “cunt” is maybe being unfeeling or less fussed with peoples sensitivities- “no fucks le…
/r/MensRights08/04/26 12:14 AM
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Whats wrong with boys playing with dolls, action figures, barbies, or “baby” dolls? If you look in an early years programs given free choice kids play with a variety of things - dolls, trucks, whatever the hell is freely available. If playing with dolls is an issue- I’d hate for you to see all the boys dressing up in the fairy dresses, heels and bags. Let kids be kids.
/r/MensRights07/04/26 05:03 PM
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Fair point- although 1900’s… harsh (maybe true…), but I work/hang out with young people- and thats a harsh burn when they tell me I am from the 1900’s - or that the 70’s was 50 years ago… I’m not sure that all of those factors have changed - regardless of the uproar… although if a percentage of MRA on this subreddit are listened to they would prefer for these traits to stay entrenched). Although- I somehow think there may be an issue if those “role models” are seeking/offering blowjobs. The lack…
/r/MensRights07/04/26 01:44 AM
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Making good decisions and taking responsibility… bahaha. Which ONLY means staying with the childrens other parent; regardless of behaviour (abuse, addiction, financial situation, coercion, incompatibility, cheating, unhappiness, sexuality, high conflict. (whatever the hell other reason there may be) and both parents have to stay together regardless. So women have to make good decisions and take responsibility whether they are married or seperating and the men just have to exist… seems fair
/r/MensRights06/04/26 04:19 AM
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If someone wants to leave the relationship but is forced to stay it is more likely to be a higher conflict relationship. No ? I don’t disagree that if both parties in a marriage are content - then yes- it it will more likely be a low conflict relationship and children will do better, in part but not entirely because of more resources. Also if people act like adults and put childrens wellbeing first when seperated - maintaining low conflict co parenting arrangements kids will har better outcomes.…
/r/MensRights06/04/26 01:17 AM
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We were ? We were told to stay quiet, stay subservient, defer to men, cook for them, clean for them, obtain and maintain certain body shapes for them, levels of dress and presentation, give them sex when we didnt want to, blow jobs on demand, never seeking self sexual satisfaction, find little “hobbies” that didnt take away from family responsibilities, look after the children and all associated stuff- as well as having jobs, climbing a corporate ladder, being educated through schools, universit…
/r/MensRights06/04/26 01:02 AM
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Man…. Already a downvote… what have I said wrong this time … ;-)
/r/MensRights06/04/26 12:51 AM
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As I have gotten older- and look around my large-ish friendship circles / family circles I have realised that many neurodivergent people hang around / relationship up with other neurodivergent people (whether or not they realised it initially). Many find partners in their fields of work/ hobbies. I can think of a few Autistic men within that crew who are not with ND women - and they tend to be paired with empathetic style women who very happily accept some ND misgivings for the associated benefi…
/r/MensRights05/04/26 08:23 PM
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That is not in itself entirely true. Children do better in stable, low conflict homes with necessary resources. If that can be obtained with whatever combination of parents that may be… So, staying in a unhappy high conflict “ two parent” structure if the child is the the focus should not be the goal. Regardless of who is in the family home/ minimising conflict, maximising stability and necessary resources should be the goal. Being a present part of your childrens lives and being a role model sh…
/r/MensRights05/04/26 07:31 PM
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How do you figure ? You are still the parent of the child regardless of your relationship status- or who initiates divorce. I agree that both men and women are capable of being good parents and role models and should share custody either equally or as close to for their circumstances (and live in a place- that encourages more even custody roles)
/r/MensRights05/04/26 12:31 PM
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When you work with children here (Australia) in a volunteer or paid role- you need to have a Working with children check - regardless of gender. Community is important and this isolation and individualism is backwards for so many reasons.
/r/MensRights05/04/26 12:02 PM
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Yeah - or the fathers “step up” and be good role models for their kids regardless of the house (many are).
/r/MensRights05/04/26 11:58 AM
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What does this even mean?
/r/MensRights05/04/26 11:55 AM
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I can see that. Sometimes I think actual opinions are less intense and more reasonable when coming from a different direction. Which is nothing new or revolutionary- we tend to accept more from “like people” than others. I’m just a older ND cunt who is happy to give it to anyone ;-). I’m obviously not male- so I can’t speak to the inner sanctum of maleness- but my limited experience as an older person has found that male Conversations can often be more “surface level” talking about sports /work/…
/r/MensRights03/04/26 07:41 AM
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And that is likely to be your perspective from your position, as one who has been tainted by this deceit. However, whether or not this information or opinion is “shared” with you- women can be pretty wary of other women. We may protect close friends but others - many wouldn’t. This stereotype is not necessarily pushed by other women - but by society and often men (that women are innocent and with virtue) and hence the “degradation” of those who are believed to stepped out of that innocence.
/r/MensRights01/04/26 12:40 PM
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I’m not entirely sure what type of communication you are referring to ? Within friendships / more general interactions- you would prefer for people(or women) to not speak with you about issues that they face - about men or more generally about life issues too? Would you mind offering an example? I can envision what you are talking about - in friendships my female friends and I will often talk about any topic under the sun, agree, disagree, debate, discuss. We discuss easy stuff and harder stuff …
/r/MensRights01/04/26 07:42 AM
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There is songs that swing both ways. I mean Neil Young, The Beatles, Guns and Roses, Nick Cave, Johnny Cash all sang about killing women… pretty sure they are still raking in the cash…
/r/MensRights01/04/26 07:23 AM
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I always laugh about this take. No woman is suggesting that all women are innocent little princesses. Most of us went to school and live in the real world. Women are well aware that women can be cunts.
/r/MensRights01/04/26 07:14 AM
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I was shocked that she was viewed as misandrist tbh.
/r/MensRights01/04/26 07:11 AM
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Some of these sources (and the framing) in Nuzzo’s article also have bias and intentional framing (which is obviously going to occur when anyone looks to research to “capture” a perspective. Looking at research since 94 (when is around when women stopped being excluded from medical trials will obviously have a catch up factor). The suggestion of the disparity of medical journals (which I am sure is the case- as many of them also relate to pregnancy and breastfeeding) seems to be missing a number…
/r/MensRights27/03/26 03:54 PM
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Both the sperm and ovum hold genetic patterning that can cause disruption to developing children. Both sperm and ovums have higher risks of different conditions. It was more in the reaponse to the use of drugs like Thalidomide- which was given to pregnant women to reduce morning sickness. And thus , impacting developing child
/r/MensRights27/03/26 09:59 AM
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I know that there was at a time a reluctance to bring women in “childbearing “ ages into medical trials - for fear of adverse effects like the Thalyidomide of the 70’s-80’s. I believe that this restriction has been lessened. I am not sure if that may also be what they are referring to. I also agree that many solutions for the medical outcomes require multifaceted approaches via societal change, reduced gendered constructs, and a well rounded approach
/r/MensRights27/03/26 09:50 AM
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I am presuming they are referring to the general (fact) that there has been additional funding thrown into researching both female (reproductive style stuff- (children/ endo/menopause etc) and additionally testing/ researching things that were traditionally based on a male response. Ex. I believe that many women are turned away from ER when having heart attacks because their symptoms don’t “mirror” what a heart attack looks like- but the “standard” is based on how men present. Similar with neuro…
/r/MensRights26/03/26 10:36 AM
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I have heard plenty of people aecdotedly speak about how their partners “let themselves go” didnt put out, didnt pay enough attention to them, focused on the kids. Is that men blaming themselves and lust ? Or is it them valuing their own fulfilment over another- being indifferent to a partner. Both men and women cheat. They may frame it differently. You may perceive that one gets a freer pass than the other. To me, its shit behaviour from all of them.
/r/MensRights26/03/26 10:19 AM
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So its the same ?
/r/MensRights26/03/26 10:06 AM
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Being born you are already at an advantage- as the child to a white mother you are more likely to have a parent who could access health care and survive and more likely to survive your first year earth side. You are statistically more likely to not have food insecurity, attend a school which is better funded and resourced, white people are the default when it comes to medical care, so conditions that face others are under-researched and undertreated. As the default “race” in many western countri…
/r/MensRights24/03/26 07:31 PM
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Huh ? Ejaculation can occur without consent. Genital stimulation can elicit an ejaculatory/orgasmic response (irrespective of consent).
/r/MensRights24/03/26 10:48 AM
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Having an involuntary autonomic response to stimulation does not equal consent, regardless of gender. Your response is daft, and ill informed of common trauma response.
/r/MensRights24/03/26 10:43 AM
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I’m not sure that it needs to be that “unsexy” as far as “ I consent”… I’m pretty sure that saying “ stfu… and fill me “ is also consenting… just in words- that may make people want to continue… Its just that those words are not as great for teen information skits.
/r/MensRights24/03/26 10:37 AM
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Yes it is rape. In many countries the law reflects this. It would depend on the country and/or state for the individual jurisdiction as to whether or not it would apply. In circumstances like this- regardless of gender- it is difficult to prove , sadly. However, it is important to be discussed as even on this post, there is a lot of division on what constitutes rape and/ or consent- and having these discussions helps to bring awareness.
/r/MensRights24/03/26 10:34 AM
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Not so much. Yes- intersectionality is often aligned with feminism but it doesn’t need to be. But its generally spouted as a “deficit” position- rather than aligned with female advantages. Ie. Someone can face discrimination or disadvantage because of their gender. But alongside that, they may also have other advantages or disadvantages because of their race, social class, sexuality, religion, and many myriad of things, and none of this necessarily fits into neat little boxes of + 2 points= whit…
/r/MensRights24/03/26 10:11 AM
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So - its just more convenient to ignore the experience of others because it’s convenient for the “poor white man” rhetoric? I mean of course equality makes sense in a way- but it ignores the reality and nuance of life. It is certainly beneficial when you are in a power position… (say as a white male ?)
/r/MensRights24/03/26 10:02 AM
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I was moreso referencing the “fact” that a lot of caregiving “people” roles will still remain- which women do the majority of. And yes, there is also obviously the interference of AI into these roles too- as there is and will be in most facets of our lives.
/r/MensRights22/03/26 08:09 PM
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No need for facts. I know women are teachers and nurses more- these jobs will remain.
/r/MensRights22/03/26 07:19 PM
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Like teachers and nurses ? Cause there is a whole lot of men in these air-con laptop jobs too.
/r/MensRights22/03/26 12:31 PM
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I wouldn’t be so sure. I watched an AI robot machine lay bricks on a whole build the other day. I think a firefighter still has a role though…
/r/MensRights22/03/26 12:28 PM
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I agree with you. Condoms (for either sex - male or female versions) are a visible barrier, and the safest barrier against STDS. People have always behaved irresponsibly, and sex is one area where this is often * guaranteed… best laid plans and all that. Many people (especially young people) are most concerned about the potential of an unplanned pregnancy and the outcomes from that. Stds are a little like that unseen/unknown “won’t happen to me “ factor… and many are non symptomatic. Both partie…
/r/MensRights22/03/26 03:33 AM
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Let me ask the IUD implanted in my cervix, what required a general anasthetic to place, after two failed in doctors surgery attempts. Some incredibly painful “alterations” to have the strings trimmed and then later cut off to accommodate for my partners comfort for his penis and piercings (which have mutual benefit). After years of safe “hormonal” interventions, which turned me into a chunkier canterous wench (or maybe thats where I lay the blame for those years)…. I have no issue with men choos…
/r/MensRights21/03/26 12:18 PM
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More options is exactly that - more options. The reason why women have been taking daily pills, implants, IUD’s etc despite the impact on their bodies for decades. They are still accused of not being trusted - as evidenced here. The reality is that many options are not wholy reliable , unless taken in “perfect” conditions - anx even then its imperfect. There is no downside if we trust that all are doing the “right “ thing. However, human nature and “chaos theory” (happy to be negated on that - a…
/r/MensRights21/03/26 11:58 AM
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I agree that shared parenting should be the goal. In Australia they recently (in 2024) they removed the “presumption” of equal shared responsibility which was often interpreted as a presumption of 50:50, which it wasn’t necessarily. So what happened is that it became a reason why people stayed in abusive situations ( to protect children), and /or a contributing reason for high conflict parenting fights, and used as a form of control by either parent. They “in theory” centre the children in makin…
/r/MensRights21/03/26 07:31 AM
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Thanks for the reframing. I get what you are trying to say now. I guess I don’t see sex as transactional . Unless it is “transactional” both parties should be showing up ready to make it “worth” it for the other party. Sex should be a treat for both parties- equally, or a regular event that everyone takes an equal stake in - contribution/ enthusiasm/ performance. I’m not sure about the “withholding” of sex. If you are talking about the withholding related to maintaining societal norms sure… What…
/r/MensRights17/03/26 10:48 AM
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Not sure I follow the last part - tables? I’m not sure who has been telling you that women are not interested in sex. Thats the prudish/ traditional values - that are rarely supported here. Men and women are both interested in sex or not- because we all operate on a spectrum of whatever, sexual interest or desire- from asexual to hypersexual - with every dot point in between. I’ m not making those rules and I don’t know many women who are. Every element of the dating/ mating game is a part of th…
/r/MensRights17/03/26 10:24 AM
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Yeah- agree to disagree- but with no malice ( only cause I think there is some psychological factors to everyones preference here)- but damn- there is for many actions. I’ve screwed younger guys- and whilst can see that their bodies may be firmer, and sometimes* (not always) more energetic, and they have seemed decent (enough) humans. There is such a disconnect / loss of something between that age chasm, that pure “attractiveness” doesn’t change. Life experience, wisdom, shared values, body comf…
/r/MensRights17/03/26 09:34 AM
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Its an objectively hostile place for women too. Work full time, have kids, spend more time doing home shit, and be “a good wife” and then if any of those things fail- its all your fault. Fuck that. If you think the apps are causing it - nah. They contribute… Women also work now, whilst still maintaining much of the childcare, mental load and home “chores” they sacrifice careers to have children, that they will end up physically responsibly for whilst men complain about paying small amounts in li…
/r/MensRights17/03/26 09:21 AM
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Jealousy is a damn bitch… (for me… as a solo parent of 3) … thats me… jealous as fuck… mind you. I have the finances… but I still have the responsibility… and that part sucks.
/r/MensRights17/03/26 09:07 AM
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Honestly… its a good thing that men should be judged on their sexual performance- and its been too damn long that many have viewed sex as a one sided sport. Penis size etc can not be changed. But if you are a human and having sex ( male or female) then you should be judged on how you show up for sex. Starfish - fuck no. Pump and dump - fuck no. Orgasms are a two sided sport… everyone should be getting them. It should be like a Oprah giveaway… orgasms for everyone.
/r/MensRights17/03/26 09:03 AM
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Young people have sought “community” and their tribe since forever. Its developmentally appropriate- they back away from family and seek validation, or valuadated (or whatever that dumb dude said). There has forever been shysters and charlatans- and the internet is another carriage of this.
/r/MensRights16/03/26 08:25 AM
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I don’t know Kier Starmer - but have enjoyed and watched Theroux’s documentaries over the past 20+ years. He doesn’t even really disparage the men in it - moreso- just lets them expose there own methods of taking advantage of young men for profit (and doing differently in their own lives). (say as I say- not as I do). If you have watched any of his previous doco’s he highlights shit people doing shit things. Do you really still support the behaviour of some of the “influencers” that are spotligh…
/r/MensRights16/03/26 08:21 AM
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I’ve seen it both ways. People can be cunts. Sheesh - I used to defend my ex… until one of my kids showed me his “messages” to his “friends”…. Saying that- still haven’t dropped to the full level talking about kinks or sexual performance… honestly could not give a damn anymore. He can do or think whatever he likes.
/r/MensRights16/03/26 08:12 AM
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I don’t understand the blame there. Most people are fucked up and dysfunctional in some ways. Men and women get something out of it. I tried to find a atudy that looked at the opposite perspective- and it spoke about “short term mating “ being the driver. I didnt read into it enough- but there is also an element of “self worth” self eestem which is likely dysfunctional/ or some other sense of needing that drives a man to seek “pretty young” things in exchange for money- abut maybe not well refle…
/r/MensRights15/03/26 03:27 AM
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Well it suggests what we all already know that people who engage in these types of arrangements likely have psychological reasoning for engaging in these types of relationships. None of this is rocket science (just confirmation of what is already known). Victims/ gold diggers - neither here nor there. We all behave in ways because of our biology or conditioning. I would argue that both the men and women in these types of arrangements are “conditioned” / psychologically dysfunctional in some way …
/r/MensRights15/03/26 03:21 AM
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But this doesn’t necessarily align with historic reasonning . I have collections of text books reproduced from victorian times and much of maths was reliant upon worded problems or problems in context. In those days men/boys excelled in those areas- because women weren’t doing the same things. They were doing domestic duties.
/r/MensRights11/03/26 10:46 AM
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Oh anyone can wear pretty clothes now…
/r/MensRights11/03/26 10:18 AM
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100 percent. I will agree that the funding for male specific “issues” has been dismal in my country for the past 3-5 years. But I also can see the counter of the element where female issues have been sidelined and invisible for many years too. The “wording” is often maligned within budgets where the government is beholden to “womens health/concerns” budgets so “highlight” elements as impactful for women (as in the Australian health budget . However upon deeper reading - it is “ more funding for …
/r/MensRights11/03/26 10:16 AM
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But “honest” gender balance also needs to look at all the factors. Whilst I (as most others) would preference no compulsory military service for anyone . I do agree that it should be genderless- ie. either gender sent (and perhaps the older angrier cunts like myself). I struggle on the claims around “ better treatment “ with custody as I think both parties are screwed ( and the kids moreso) .
/r/MensRights11/03/26 10:09 AM
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Yeah -sorry - I didn’t know the history of the subreddit. I hear what you are saying. I was just reflecting the shit I see on other social media.
/r/MensRights10/03/26 11:28 AM
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I haven’t heard that narrative of MGTOW being characterised as misogyny in womens space’s moreso just people saying - “cool, off you go then…”. I imagine if it is viewed in that way its probably on the idea “that women don’t do anything wrong so, its just women hating to avoid”. But thats false too. Women can be cunts too. I don’t really get the whole characterisation of either of them. There has always been forever “bachelors” and “cat loving” spinsters. Is this just a new “catch phrase” for th…
/r/MensRights10/03/26 10:21 AM
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No. It wasnt baby boomers. It ran from 2004-2014. Benefited Gen X and millenials ( in theory).
/r/MensRights09/03/26 08:03 AM
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Its not about making men into “inhumane monsters”. I don’t believe that. Men are largely great and valuable and I enjoy my friendships, working relationships, and relationships with them. But, that doesnt mean obey. You have fairly stated that your interpretation of that word is not as the dictionary or its common usage in society. So what does “obey” mean to you ? What is the definition of a “successful relationship?”.
/r/MensRights09/03/26 06:17 AM
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You are right. A perfect concensus on every decision is hard. If there were two CEO’s of a company they may have the same issues. The solution may be different each time. They may defer to the other as a person with greater knowledge on an issue, they may get other input, they may not make a decision, they may get heated and be at a standoff, they may decide to defer decision making, they may take a vote, so many alternate options. The presumption that one must obey the other suggests that perso…
/r/MensRights08/03/26 03:54 PM
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What you want is a cook. Not a relationship. You can pay someone to cook you a meal. Heard of restaurants? Take out ? Home chefs? Prepared meals ? If you want a mother to cook for you- Don’t be surprised that she doesn’t want to suck your dick. No one had even mentioned cooking before you. Obey- has far more nuance than traditional “gendered” chores.
/r/MensRights08/03/26 09:28 AM
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Huh ? How is making a meal obeying ? Cooking is a neutral life sustaining task (for most). Thats nothing to do with obeying.
/r/MensRights08/03/26 09:14 AM
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Is it weird for who to cook? Anyone who is above the age of about 12- should know how to cook. If you need to eat - adults need to know how to cook. How the hell does genitalia make a damn difference ?
/r/MensRights08/03/26 09:02 AM
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What a load of bullshit. Gen Z have been disillusioned (fairly) with a pretty bleak financial outcome, where working does not = setting up life and futures. Leadership & obey -fuck that. A successful relationship requires communication, partnership, give and take, intentionality and hard effort. Men providing all the money and resources is largely a thing of the past, with both members of couples need to be contributing to resources. Obey ? Home shouldn’t be prison or the military. No one party …
/r/MensRights08/03/26 09:01 AM
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I just had a little flick through an article on the study too. I’m not surprised by a swing to more traditional roles in Gen Z generally (male and female). There are often patterns that reflect this within families - ie. stay at home parent seems to be more likely to have children who are career oriented, and vice versa. Experiencing both the pros and cons of either role and wanting to differentiate. The study encapsulates 29 countries (including those with stricter gender roles) But gen Z is es…
/r/MensRights08/03/26 02:01 AM
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100 % this. Who wants to be locked in to a whole dinner for a wish and a prayer. Lets face it - many are dating via apps. Getting who you thought was coming is the first barrier. Plus or minus 5-10 years or 10-20 kilos. Whatever- we all have insecurities ( I am old enough to realise that the 5 years or 10 kilos are small fry in the whole world). But then trying to draw banter, conversation or fun out… thats a 50:50 proposition. So coffee/ a walk/ a icecream/ a beer- all low investment options. O…
/r/MensRights07/03/26 11:32 AM
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I agree. Rates of domestic violence often increase or may start during pregnancy. The regular contact that OBGYN appointments offer, may offer the trust that may be required to disclose any information. Sometimes its also about the lack of continuity of care- ie. many different midwives/ scheduled doctors- everyone doing their job. My experience was different in a public hospital setting to a private hospital. Its not only about asking about “abuse or trafficking”, not everyone feels as comforta…
/r/MensRights06/03/26 11:38 PM
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This is a huge part of the issue. Old fashioned and misguided information- sold up as gospel. Whilst women (and their decent partners) hunker aroubd trying to fight for a smitherine of care, modern medicine or information, eventually finding bit pieces from doctors, whose names are passed around from whisper to whisper. I have watched friends in great numbers circle the drain, combust long term relationships, and essentially bow out of any life they once lived, and then come out either post or p…
/r/MensRights06/03/26 11:26 AM
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What does ?
/r/MensRights04/03/26 09:50 AM
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“Easily” and divorce dont go together, and someone can be shit at getting their stuff together (person B) without it “justifying divorce”. People are human - and are flawed. These scenarios happen day in and day out. Women are also called out all the time, some times justifiably and sometimes without. People take the fall for others and cover others arses. If it continues to happen , then action (whether in a workplace/ a neighbourhood/home) should happen.
/r/MensRights04/03/26 09:23 AM
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Plenty do. Victims of rape and sexual assault are at a far greater risk of suicidality. Many others just live half lives with far greater risk of addiction, poverty, homelessness, ptsd, depression, further victimisation, or perpertration…
/r/MensRights04/03/26 09:17 AM
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Oh… that sounds so harsh. I can’t ever imagine it being flipped… Broken d/washer scenario Let’s say person A has a broken washing machine in a kitchen in a busy household with kids. Person A says they will arrange to get a repair person. Person B says no…they will take a look at it, once they are done with whatever. Instead of addressing the matter in the two weeks they deflect/avoid. Some polite examples: “ you can take it to the laundromat, or just wash it in the sink if it bothers you. When p…
/r/MensRights04/03/26 09:13 AM
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Interesting. Taking away any concept of abuse/rape - which I think needs to be seperated. Consensual teen sex leading to pregnancy in young bodies/ to young parents is incredibly impactful on the parents. But I’m going to disagree on the other points. The medical risks of preganancy on a super young and underdeveloped body are higher than a “normal” age, partially because of body development, partially because of brain development . Impacting both the “carrying” parent and developing child. Havi…
/r/MensRights04/03/26 02:21 AM
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Do as you wish. I am not the first woman or man, nor will I be the last to be concerned about the framing or language around suicide or suicidality. There are many articles and studies suggesting a move away from these “terms”. Just like how media can sway and move perspectives with framing, imagery and language, language is important in how suicide is framed too. Using critical thinking skills in how we are guided, moved and swayed in our thought and perspective in/on a topic is relevant. Just …
/r/MensRights02/03/26 12:14 AM
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Nah, not my link. But yeah. Guns suck, and kill people, more than they help people. Rant over.
/r/MensRights01/03/26 11:11 AM
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But thats not how language works- which is why care needs to be taken. Success is usually framed as “positive”. So it should never be used in this context. (Amongst other responders on this post- not necessarily in this article).
/r/MensRights01/03/26 11:07 AM
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Death is obviously the worst case outcome. Hence- it shouldn’t be framed as the “successful” outcome.
/r/MensRights01/03/26 10:01 AM
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Well hot damn. If anytime of year is going to push that shit… its gonna be the “magic filled” christmas time.
/r/MensRights01/03/26 09:54 AM
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This is the guy you want to hang your “hat “ on. A guy who is an attractive dude (which is acknowledged repeatedly- regardless of his self perceived failings), whose issue is the fact that all he wants is to lose his virginity. No mention of forming a friendship, relationship, building anything, he just wants a “hole” for the goal. He wasnt seeking a partner, merely a means to an end. Did he deserve being called a predator- no. Did he deserve being called out for his primary goal - yes.
/r/MensRights28/02/26 09:19 AM
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Sorry I may need more clarification. What are these “roles” that women are meant to be taking? Working in the police / military/more male dominated spaces ? Are you not seeing a shift in your country/spaces to see that ? Or what responsibility/ role are you talking about
/r/MensRights26/02/26 11:32 PM
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Nicely played.
/r/MensRights26/02/26 10:22 AM
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I’m glad you picked up on the sarcasm. Honestly/ I used to give a shit about that stuff- but these days I don’t care. Everyone can have an opinion - and it generally says more about them and their needs. People I value look past that shit- and I now fail to give shit about what colleagues/family care about. However I dont believe thats what the ad is referring to. Do you?
/r/MensRights26/02/26 09:33 AM
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Due to hypergamy? Or due to the fact that women without a job had minimal fulfilment, independence and nothing to fall back on if shit went haywire. Oddly, having a vagina does not mean that one enjoys doing dishes… They are chores, that are gender and morally neutral. In a better world, both partners working means that there should be more work/life balance, and both partners get to take a meaningful role in parenting. I do agree that laws need to change to reflect modern times ?
/r/MensRights26/02/26 08:38 AM
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Well fuck that… I’m heading to a local footy game tomorrow…
/r/MensRights26/02/26 08:27 AM
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I agree that this ad is condescending. I can also see in the comment section the variety of responses that maybe 🤔 allow for some pessisism. If my partner has an opinion on my outfit being daggy/ not formally appropriate for an event- how is that protective ? Or is it something else that is the problem
/r/MensRights26/02/26 08:23 AM
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This difference is also seen (disregarding gender) in rural to urban locations. (The prevalence of guns in the US may tip the scales though). In urban areas methods like poisioning or jumping are more prevalent that gun/hanging. Because a regular “office worker” is also less likely to have access (whether physical or skills based) to those tools.
/r/MensRights26/02/26 03:14 AM
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Women do sometimes use those methods. Women with access to, and confidence to use them. If a man has a gun he is 8 times more likely to suicide with it. A woman is 35 times more likely as a gun owner. Having “technical” access to buying a gun or a rope- is even between genders. Although, it would be harder to show that in my country. Women are more likely to have a disagnosed mental health disorder because they are statistically more likely to have sought medical assistance around this. Here, a …
/r/MensRights26/02/26 02:58 AM
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Access not being used in this sense of a woman can’t get a rope, or a gun or whatever. But, there lessened access to skills around these things ie. less confidence are also likely to be barriers- hence why they may not use them. I went further in a later post as to why. Access and confidence and experience with something matters. Some of the highest rates of suicidality are often associated with occupations that give both. Access and confidence with that method.
/r/MensRights26/02/26 02:48 AM
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Interesting perspective. I am somewhat surprised by your age with this assessment. But that is me likely projecting bias on generational change. (Historically) Young people often valued looks, they are seeking validation part of social learning theory. There is a distinct shift in adolescence and young adulthood, where people look to peers for validation/advice and standards, its a natural part of gaining independence in the world. Young people, generally value physicality/hotness/social accepta…
/r/MensRights25/02/26 07:05 AM
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I believe it was a comment where sumfac(…) had spoken out about MGM generally (and fairly) and was told by a man that he was able to make the choice for his sons because he was following his preference/ deluded medical advice - but she as a woman should butt out of mens penises? Because woman.
/r/MensRights25/02/26 05:08 AM
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They will also often use more “attractive” pictures to garner attention to the article. Who gives a damn what a sexual predator looks like.
/r/MensRights25/02/26 04:34 AM
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No missed point. I’m not denying that men die at disproportionate numbers. Just stating that methods are not only chosen for “low probability”. Access / confidence-familiarity / impulsivity are all factors (amongst other nuanced factors).
/r/MensRights25/02/26 04:29 AM
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Agreed. People generally use what is available to them and what they are confident to use. Poison is used in smaller amounts ( as a percentage ratio) more by women, but as a whole not. Poisioning etc requires planning- many murders are not necessarily “planned” but spontaneous, reactive or in the heat of the moment ( by impulse maybe).
/r/MensRights25/02/26 03:24 AM
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I wonder if the shaming of people who use less “successful” ways to attempt suicide helps too ? For people deep in depression who feel like nothing is ok- now they can only be “successful” by using more lethal means. Why wouldnt we frame “help seeking” as the successful outcome of suicidality or suicidal thoughts?
/r/MensRights25/02/26 02:49 AM
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I am thinking because murderous cunts are different to depressed people. I know that poisioning rates are low. It is often mentioned on here that women are out killing men prefering poisoning as their method. Forgetting that autopsies exist etc. As a percentage of killing yes women use poision more than men, but men kill more so yes more are killed via poisioning. And totally acknowledge that knives (and guns) are moreso used as a method to kill. Guns less so in countries with better gun laws.
/r/MensRights24/02/26 10:40 PM
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But even the framing of “do a proper job” is problematic. Why give validation to the worst case outcome? Women have less guns and less confidence in using them. Many women can hardly change a lightglobe, and now they are rigging ropes, tying knots and checking joists for structural integrity ? They also are more vain- which rules out some “uglier” versions of suicidality. Yes I am quite sure that for many it is a cry for help. But not all. We should be advocating for and encouraging everyone to …
/r/MensRights24/02/26 10:29 PM
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Which is a problem in itself. Many countries have a policies which help to protect people from guns. Alas, some states in the US also have some more restrictive policies where you need to have checks, etc. Here, I would need purpose for a gun( notnincluding self defence) police checks, licensing provisions, safety courses, ensure I had proper storage, mental health checks, and complete a safety course. There is also a mandatory time delay.
/r/MensRights24/02/26 08:23 PM
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I have never said that all woman were not intending to die- just that the data was not as clear cut. We all know that guns can kill people, and that if you have them in a home people are more likely to die.
/r/MensRights24/02/26 08:17 PM
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I have not done much research into male impulsivity levels (however some on here mention that impulsivity levels are higher amongst men… idk). However, rates of suicidality in populations with ADHD ( with inherent high impulsivity levels) are 5 times higher than the standard population. Having access to lethal methods of death is a huge contributant. Access plus impulsivity has worse outcomes.
/r/MensRights24/02/26 11:46 AM
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Ahhh. I live in a country that recognises that guns are not helpful . Gun ownership is largely male here. It is majority male in the states too.
/r/MensRights24/02/26 09:37 AM
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This is about a flaw in that argument- not that mens suicide rates are not incredibly disturbing and needing focussed targeted strategies and change. Whilst the article pits them against one another. Two things can both be evident. Mental health is poorly managed- and men are using more finite methods of suicidality, and using less help seeking behaviours.
/r/MensRights24/02/26 09:09 AM
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I’m not sure that the first point is quite as clear cut as you may like it to be. Women do have less access/confidence with to more finite ways of dying too- and less experience /access to more violent(and faster) methods of death. Does this mean they want to die less ? Or that there is more time to reconsider between decision to do it and actual death? By the same logic- women are more likely to kill someone using poison (the same as their suicidality methods) does this mean that they want to k…
/r/MensRights24/02/26 09:06 AM
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Ahhh yes… the problem solvers. If it helps there doesnt seem to be any clue or fix on the women side either. Just keep throwing shit at the wall and seeing what sticks. The medical gaslighting, lack of external awareness and even availability of information/drugs makes it all harder. You are a good human for being equipped and gaining knowledge- I think male logic and steadfastness combined with awesome problem solving is a great asset to help calm the chaos. I am greatful to my partner who appr…
/r/MensRights23/02/26 12:09 PM
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What kinds of things are u putting in your prenup? How certain are you of its capacity to stand up against scrutiny?
/r/MensRights22/02/26 10:04 AM
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What type of marriages /relationships are you seeing where it exists only because someone said yes or okay? Then women putting more effort into leaving than staying in a relationship… How do you figure this ?
/r/MensRights22/02/26 09:03 AM
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I’m really sorry that this happened to you. I agree that the laws need to change to reflect all non consensual rape/ assault in a gender neutral way. I hope that you have support systems around you now and moving forward. Thank you for sharing your story.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 05:49 AM
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If thats the cage you wish to cling to- be my guest.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 05:44 AM
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I’m sorry this has been your experience. Its totally fucked. I think as a society there is a long way to go in treating transmen and transwomen fairly and without predjudice.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 05:26 AM
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I’m not saying that men aren’t on the whole more naturally stronger. I would still back myself in many fights against the average similar weight class man. My anger alone will nothelp- but my years od weight /boxing training will. I’m 5ft- the opponents in my weight class are small. Many heated (lay people) situations I have been in have seldomly escalated to violence- because in many situations other options work- negotiation, deescalation.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 05:16 AM
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Our military and police force are also made up of women and gender diverse people (*the latter in smaller numbers). Yes, the numbers are lower- but also changing in an upward progression. I couldn’t quite get the jist of the last statement… As far as who I could fight personally- physically- I would probably be ok (but only because I am an angry bitch who has spent half their life in a boxing gym/doing weights)- and also men come in all shapes and sizes/ fitness levels and strengths- there is no…
/r/MensRights22/02/26 04:49 AM
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Moving away from the protection side. I think taking the worst possible view/take of the opposite gender doesn’t help either and sadly, this is what gets shoved down everyone’s throats at nauseum. There is no more reality of it anymore. Many years ago- we just knew the people around us, and peoples lives were far more private, and also more irl open too. We knew that there were people, some notably more favourable than others and some crappier humans too, but largely just people -flawed humans. …
/r/MensRights22/02/26 04:24 AM
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I think I saw the same clip. It was fucked how it was characterised. None of us know exactly how we are going to react in any different situation. Thats not on gender- its on fight/ flight, life experience, level of justice sensitivity, self esteem/confidence, give a fuckness, previous trauma. Previous experience has told me that I will defend and protect my family- but - who knows on the next experience- life happens and our body holds the score.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 03:43 AM
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True that. Piss me off - meh, youve pissed me off. Threaten my kid/hurt my kids- its war.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 01:30 AM
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I dont want a man to protect me, nor to give up his life for me or anyone. This concept of men being the “defender” pisses me off. For multiple reasons - a. It presumes that one is more disposable b. It presumes that things can only be addressed with physicality. C. It doesn’t respect the variation in people. D. It gives a false narrative of fear of an “outsider” one needs protection from - when most often the danger is closer to home. Is it feminists wanting this or random “internet women”. A l…
/r/MensRights22/02/26 01:24 AM
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I know that there are consequences of any options. But that also doesn’t equal abuse by itself- because it isnt a right.
/r/MensRights22/02/26 12:46 AM
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Is witholding is weaponised … likely. But I prefer to call it a responsibility . No one has the right to sex. I think that we have a responsibility to communicate and to try to meet our partners needs. If these prove to be incompatible over a period of time- then of course people have the option to walk away. The right to sex just seems like a bit of a cage. For all participants.
/r/MensRights21/02/26 11:13 PM
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Its nothing to scuff at. But realistically… the prenup is not for the whole $120k ( its for half). Ie. With it- he is likely trying to protect the whole amount it. Without it - he will still likely recieve the benefit of half of it. So now we are talking $60k. Factor in legal fees on a divorce and fighting in court to have the prenup hold up …. Is it $40k, 30k ? So… a presumably positive relationship blowing up for a difference of $30-40k? Still shit in the short term- but less so longer term. H…
/r/MensRights21/02/26 11:47 AM
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The comment section is always gross. Keep in mind- a child can’t consent to an adult.
/r/MensRights21/02/26 09:40 AM
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Ummm. Wouldn’t cheating be the abuse of that expectation.
/r/MensRights21/02/26 07:08 AM
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Nope… sorry should clarify - it would depend on the laws where u live. But a trust doesn’t necessarily help.
/r/MensRights21/02/26 07:05 AM
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Holy moly… you are really doubling down on this right to marital rape… Is this some deluded religious premise you are holding onto? Marriage is a declaration that you want be with that person, not that sex is on tap forever more.
/r/MensRights21/02/26 06:48 AM
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Yeah- ok. Sorry - thanks for figuratively holding my hand through that.
/r/MensRights21/02/26 06:24 AM
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No disagreement about how a relationship should run. Curious how she ends up the prostitute either way… whether she is allegedly “witholding” until a task is done, or whether he is doing tasks to try to curry favour, or as currency for sex.
/r/MensRights21/02/26 05:56 AM
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What chores are you talking about? My mind went there because they are some of the tasks I have seen used as collateral. The “job done” is sometimes as little as putting the kids to bed/ doing the dishes (or a combination thereof). I agree its pretty sad and unhealthy. Sadly, I’m old enough to know many couples who use this as currency. I’ve heard it from both sides. It gets muddied with the often female commented- “if he helped more at home” then I would be more mentally available for sex. Its …
/r/MensRights21/02/26 05:31 AM
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Sorry - yes you are right, its not inclusive of all people. One of the downsides of talking in absolutes.
/r/MensRights21/02/26 04:03 AM
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Being a member of a household - but expecting something sexual in return instead for doing a load of dishes or putting kids to bed?
/r/MensRights21/02/26 03:01 AM
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We do all have to do this. It can be hard. People shouldn’t be arseholes. Do I think the whole world needs to cater to my /or female needs. No. Do I think that people in healthy relationships should try and greater understand their partners / family - Yes. Because when I was married/ or now partnered. My spouses/partners problems are my problems. Because thats the agreement that we make in being in a relationship. We are on each others team, and want support them. When my partner comes home angr…
/r/MensRights21/02/26 02:55 AM
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Thank you for your explanation. I understand the concept of pre-nups- It was more the framing of how both parties are “protected”. I can see how the person bringing in the initial funds is protected- but less so how that protection is spread to the other. So in your scenario- it would be the judge declaring it unfair and throwing it out what is the protective factor? Are these super common in the states? Similar to how alimony is uncommon in Australia with the exception of high net worth couples…
/r/MensRights21/02/26 01:48 AM
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Yeah- its not my favourite saying either. I also think that sometimes sleep is necessary to give some time/space and clarity that may be missing or unattainable in that moment.
/r/MensRights20/02/26 03:32 PM
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Oh man… sorry what ? No. Thats not prostitution nor marriage. Consent is required for every encounter. There is no lodged court document that overides that (in most jurisdictions)
/r/MensRights20/02/26 02:22 PM
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👍 . Do you have any contributions on the original post.? Or just want to throw shade ?
/r/MensRights20/02/26 11:48 AM
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Congratulations on finding a good relationship and enjoying your world together. Don’t mind the blah blah
/r/MensRights20/02/26 11:40 AM
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This part about prenups being relatively useless is relevant. You mention that both parties are “protected”. Can you explain what you mean by that ? What would you consider reasonable?
/r/MensRights20/02/26 11:07 AM
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I guess it depends on what you want the prenup to say? Are the 2 of u planning on having children- how will that period of time be accounted for in a prenup? I can see some clarity in a pre-nup. Idk. 120k isn’t the kind of money I would blow a r/ship over.
/r/MensRights20/02/26 11:04 AM
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When a guy says he has to “earn” sex from his wife, what he is really saying is that she doesn’t desire him by default. Thats not prositution. That’s feedback.
/r/MensRights20/02/26 10:43 AM
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Yeah - again fair call. Will own that I was seeing this from my own perspective here- thanks for sharing a different view.
/r/MensRights20/02/26 08:58 AM
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Oh… I think you will find I am happy to happily discount anyone and pull them all up on their shit. However- it was a statement- that I hadnt seen the man bashing ones, which was weird- cause that shits part of my algorithm too. Sometimes I talk about how its algorithms pushing shit rather than all women and all men. Its alright though… do you feel better now after putting me in my place ?
/r/MensRights20/02/26 06:09 AM
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Umm. I’m pretty sure this is the woman (or person wearing the red), who is embarrassed that they went out wearing an outfit/lingerie with the tag still on.
/r/MensRights20/02/26 02:35 AM
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Good on you for expressing this. It sounds like you are building a life that you are proud of, and reflects the efforts you are putting in… What are your thoughts on that “wave of dread?” Is it something that you have often or pay attention to when it happens ? Do you think about microshifts that you could make so the house of cards isn’t so fragile?
/r/MensRights20/02/26 02:32 AM
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Yeah- true. Not unconditional.
/r/MensRights20/02/26 02:02 AM
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This is great. Well done on the persistence of going past the Ministry of Justice and going straight to Human Rights commission. Good luck.
/r/MensRights20/02/26 02:01 AM
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Not being held socially responsible for the actions/ behaviours of your children.
/r/MensRights20/02/26 01:38 AM
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Being able to pee standing up
/r/MensRights20/02/26 01:35 AM
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Agreed. Some womenare abusive, and go too far… and some have put up with far too much shit for far too long and have lost the willingness to be “nice” about it anymore. Good on you for being in those groups- do you find they help in any way?
/r/MensRights20/02/26 01:33 AM
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Weird. I’m a woman in those ages and my social media isnt pushing those messages. Like sure, women bitching about perimenopause/ doctor gaslighting/ rage in general. But, I get their anger. Like yes- we have a responsibility to work on it, try to understand triggers etc, and minimise the fall out- but often its’ really fucking hard. I kind of equate it to the idea behind “drunk words are sober thoughts”. I’m not making the problems up in these times- I’m just not supressing them like I used to. …
/r/MensRights20/02/26 01:27 AM
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I’m sorry that you are in this space right now and not seeing a clear path forward. I imagine putting yourself out there when you had gathered the strength to try something different and be vulnerable must have been an extra kick. I can hear that the things that normally help aren’t helping right now. Thats a shit space to be in. I hear that you have tried therapy in the past, and it hasnt been the right fit. Have you considered having a chat with your doctor ? Even just to check for any blood t…
/r/MensRights19/02/26 05:02 AM
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DISCLAIMER - I am not talking about this man in any way /shape or form. However- people can be abused without someone ever laying a finger on them. Digitisation and the internet has changed the way some crimes can be committed. Material can be shared/distributed/funded online, and physically perpetrated by others. Programs can be written/ firewalls installed, to protect predators. Children/ vulnerable people can be groomed online, made to send images/money etc. People may allow for their relativ…
/r/MensRights17/02/26 04:03 AM
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They are comparing disabled men to another disabled man. There is a huge disparity around how people experience disability- and the individual challenges that each person has. I’m trying to understand the use of the halo effect here. Ive searched it up- essentially meaning “how perceiving one positive quality in a person extends to other unrelated attributes?” So- to me, Hawkins has an incredible intellect, that has had profound impact in (stuff I wont pretend to understand) and thus, given his …
/r/MensRights17/02/26 03:56 AM
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It seems shit that the amount of child support was not balanced to time spent. In the US is it state by state ? The formula here is based on time spent. How does it work as far as changes ? Ie. If the court order isnt followed ? How do breaches work? The reality is, that it is the shit humans on either side of the gender that fuck it up for well intended parents.
/r/MensRights16/02/26 07:53 AM
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I agree that people should be be using critical thinking skills in any of the Epstein files situations, and reading into context (which historically isnt important on mens rights pages and just bs women say). However the use of derogatory terms in this thread (which is purportedly about protecting disabled people from female ableism ) seems to be pretty lax shows that the intent doesn’t seem so much about ableism at all. “Vegetable” “retards” talking about a disabled persons ability to sexually …
/r/MensRights16/02/26 07:39 AM
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2 minutes in and frustrated already. This dude takes a snapshot of watching a couple and launches in on his opinions. (Just like I am doing…) Surely a #mans right should be to stay at home and care for children if thats what he chooses, with his other person. Why the hell does someone need to conform to “fixed” ideas /roles of masculinity and femininity. Is this the cage you want to be trapped in ? How is having a choice a bad thing ?
/r/MensRights16/02/26 06:51 AM
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A very quick google would show you that sexual harrassment of nurses in hospitals and nursing homes is common. As is sexual assault/harrassment of vulnerable patients and those with diabilities and patient to patient abuse. It is super complex and not helped by “it didn’t happen”. Being old or disabled does not make you incapable of sexuality, positively or negatively , suggesting so is ageist and ableist. I would argue that using the term “vegetable” is also incredibly offensive and ableist, bo…
/r/MensRights16/02/26 05:57 AM
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I’m not entirely sure what you are asking - you are on tenterhooks for the fear of getting arrested / charged/ placed on the sex offender list for getting your penis out in public ? You want to right to be able to urinate in public spaces ? Regardless of surroundings ? Or to … like what ? Women also get charged for lewd or indecent behaviours ? Often these charges (for men and women) occur more as a punishment for being “other” ie. homeless, non white etc moreso than gender.
/r/MensRights16/02/26 04:46 AM
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I’m not justifying that the rules in another place- you asked for an example- it was one. Your apples for apples analogy is also moot. One involves partial nudity and women existing in gym gear doesnt.
/r/MensRights16/02/26 01:56 AM
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Maybe cast your eyes to some middle eastern countries and see what happens to some women for showing “any” amount of their body. Whilst your example I am sure has happened- it would not be the vast majority, and is a far overreach of what should occur. The Op was also not talking about indecent exposure - the female genitalia is covered in gym pants and shorts. And yes, I have seen far more exposure of male genitalia explicitly indecently (ie. exposed jerking off)- I don’t really count peeing on…
/r/MensRights16/02/26 01:31 AM
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What would they need to be held accountable to ?
/r/MensRights16/02/26 01:15 AM
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Its daytime- and this post is still sitting uncomfortably… The problem is not women’s sexuality (in the scenario posted). The problem is yours. Your attraction to, your distraction by, your fixation on. Women (and men/gender diverse people) should be able to wear what they want for their comfort and enjoyment. There are obviously some laws which govern this to a degree, and often moreso womens bodies over mens (topless laws in some spaces). Wearing tight clothes or revealing clothes isn’t bringi…
/r/MensRights16/02/26 12:42 AM
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Clothing is not inherently sexual. Wearing tight or minimal clothing is also not in itself sexual. You mention that its the “setting” maybe being inappropriate- but, if that was all it was do you feel the deeply uncomfortable about someone wearing something to casual or formal for a setting. Probably not. These items are merely comfortable clothing. Often leggings etc have compression elements so can be supportive, and helpful to recovery. I prefer to wear tighter fitting leggings with compressi…
/r/MensRights15/02/26 03:33 PM
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Like not cool that waiting on results happens in a gendered space- I wonder if he husband had been with her if other arrangements would have been made. Ie. Moved to a different room /space. Mind you Ive watches people get horrendous diagnoses on ambulance stretcher awaiting rooms, no family no nothing- the humanity stripped. As far as who she wants to do chemo with - who gives a damn? I have people I like to run with, people I gym with, people I talk to about issues, people I work with, people w…
/r/MensRights15/02/26 01:43 AM
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Ahhh- have tried to reply twice. But its Friday night, and the 2nd glass of wine turned into a third… and now its game over. Will respond with more clarity later.
/r/MensRights13/02/26 11:06 AM
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The feminists are the ones who are doing this stuff though. They are out earning money, fixing cars and doing there own self defence- they are not waiting on men to do that shit for them. Its the instagram social media /girlies/ trad - conservatives who are still talking this way.
/r/MensRights13/02/26 10:28 AM
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Who wants a bodyguard, a driver or a mechanic ? These “traditional” notions are not as relevant in modern days. Both women and men work. No one needs a body guard ( unless they are in a relationship with the person - according to statistics), women and men both drive, and plenty of people can either not fix a car or are equally equipped to pull out their phone to either youtube how to change a tyre or call for roadside assistance. These concepts might work ok in a old style trad relationship whe…
/r/MensRights13/02/26 10:21 AM
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Why do men only have to “provide”- are they not also mena to be be faithful, respectful and look after their own cleaning. What the hell marriages and relationships are people having ? Womens duty to family and children? What in the traditional world is this? Men and women are often providing and working these days in relationships/ marriages. And everyone is under a “duty” in a marriage to be faithful and try to work in the best interests of the family.
/r/MensRights13/02/26 10:12 AM
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I chose to leave the relationship- it had been discussed earlier - but the decision (in the end) was mine. It had nothing to do with finances timing had to do with the children ( their ages and trying (unsuccessfully) to not fuck them up as much). But realistically had been on life support for far too long. Is the perception of “points lost” by society the bigger issue, or having to “start again and rebuild ?” (Thats a genuine question?) Because to me, even though financially it was a significan…
/r/MensRights13/02/26 10:05 AM
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Commonly used by people…
/r/MensRights13/02/26 09:51 AM
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Who wrote it ?
/r/MensRights13/02/26 09:51 AM
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This is a fucked statement and I hope she has been canned for it
/r/MensRights13/02/26 09:50 AM
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But its also the preferred suicidal method too…
/r/MensRights13/02/26 09:49 AM
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Not sure about the truth in this . A lot of the time coroners are involved (it may be a country by country thing)- but generally if an otherwise healthy 30/40 year old drops dead- an autopsy will be requested ? Fuck- a friends dad was 82, with a chronic heart disease and shes still waiting for the autopsy that “ had to be filed”.
/r/MensRights13/02/26 09:48 AM
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If you read further - its opiod overdose. So not women poisioning them- drug addiction.
/r/MensRights13/02/26 09:45 AM
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Agreed
/r/MensRights13/02/26 09:42 AM
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No. We have genuine female friendships for the most part. We have shared the emotional labour over many sources. In a lot of circumstances a man is one of many sources of emotional connection/validation and friendship. It is often not women racing into the next relationship for emotional support (although some do for financial support (granted).
/r/MensRights13/02/26 09:41 AM
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Women aren’t leaving because of what they will gain financially- they will generally be worse off post divorce. They are leaving because what they gain emotionally
/r/MensRights13/02/26 09:38 AM
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Interesting. Woman here- but the primary financial contributor (he worked - but I earned considerably more, which was reflected when we split up in the property/asset split.) I don’t care about the financial stuff. I care about the emotional energy that i put in, because that was/is my value. So i don’t know if its solely a finance - maybe a gender thing. My time/ attention/ energy/ acts of service are what I am contributing to a relationship- the rest is just chattels. Hmm. The sex thing is a w…
/r/MensRights13/02/26 09:36 AM
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Nah. Men are often giving physical items in lieu of emotional investment- they don’t acknowledge that they have value outside of that (and they absolutely do- but idk if its a gender role shit show- but sometimes they dont see that. No woman is looking for a vacuum cleaner - literally or figuratively ( in fact, I would say that men are more concerned about the quality of suction). Women are often giving in less tangible (emotional/tending to labour/ etc) (in both positive and negative ways). The…
/r/MensRights13/02/26 09:25 AM
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Fine… I prefer a sausage roll anyway… good luck with the theory…
/r/MensRights10/02/26 11:07 AM
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Hahaha… of all the things Ive been accused of on here, this is my fave… being unAustralian. Damn I’m gonna have to pick up a four n’ twenty and a dare iced coffee tomorrow from 7/11 , and chase it down with a cheesymite scroll to realign my Aussie -ness.
/r/MensRights10/02/26 10:31 AM
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Australia…FWIW
/r/MensRights10/02/26 09:29 AM
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This I can relate too… my cat can be a jerk…
/r/MensRights10/02/26 12:09 AM
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Not surprised. Even when my ex and his family were pressuring me to get our kids circumcised - they pulled out the HIV trope/ UTI’s, cleanliness. Like FFS, we live in urban Australia, people get Uti’s , often use prophylactics and we can teach children to clean their genitalia. I can’t believe that shit is still being spouted 20 years on… (from the time in that article). I also can’t believe that its nearly 20 years since 2007 - but thats because I am an old cunt.
/r/MensRights10/02/26 12:07 AM
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Just live your life the way you want to. Live solo. Live with friends. Live with a lover. Live with a dog/ cat. You don’t have to do anything. I don’t like to make any wide sweeping statements about a philosophy I hold to - because that in itself can become a barrier to change later. Work out what you value- and do the stuff required to live that lifestyle.
/r/MensRights09/02/26 11:57 PM
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So rather than supporting communities that don’t have access to retrovirals and condoms, and education by ensuring a supply of these. We will circumcise them all, which may reduce the chance of transmission by a small amount - but given they still don’t have access to barrier protection and retrovirals and HIV is still epidemic- they will likely still contract it. The rationale and manipulation of these studies are mind blowing.
/r/MensRights09/02/26 11:50 PM
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No one should be compelled to “protect” anyone (outside of their immediate family- where I think there is a duty for those within to protect one another). I think that all of us should look out for one another as a collective, generally. I think that sometimes the societal idea of “protection” is also flawed. Sometimes its framed like as the “hero” style/ physical style protection, but protection not limited to that, it can be advocating for someone, verbally defending someone with reason and no…
/r/MensRights09/02/26 11:41 PM
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I was referring to platonic male to friend/family relationships (outside of intimate relationships). But yes- of course you can make a decision to not have relationships/intimacy with your preferred gender. No one is forcing anyone to engage ?
/r/MensRights09/02/26 10:33 AM
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There is validity in what you are saying. I believe its part of the downfall on both sides, in seeking allyship either way. Realistically- the lines of genuine communication have gone down… Society has changed, and continues to change in ways where everything is shifting and uncertain and fuck… there are a lot of cunts out there. I will hand on heart say, that I genuinely believe that there are mens issues that need serious attention and understanding and allyship. However- there are some where …
/r/MensRights09/02/26 10:06 AM
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I can agree that I don’t think its fair that young men /boys are demonised and villanised in the news/social media for the acts and society of some of their elder folk. It’s another one of the clashing clusterfuck of / impact of social media- because these opinions get conflated- spread around- sensationalised- normalised- and hit the wrong targets. My experience of young men / as a parent/ working with them / studying with them etc - is that they are often kind and empathetic, often inclusive a…
/r/MensRights09/02/26 07:26 AM
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Great post.
/r/MensRights09/02/26 05:38 AM
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This same post has been posted before (or a link to the same study), so clearly many others (including those who post in good faith in this subreddit) think that its relevant. Mens rights activism, at its core, doesn’t center/centre itself about hating or excluding women. Many “public” Activists are women alongside men. Many more would be more happy and willing to stand beside men and support their causes if they weren’t treated with such vitriol in these spaces. Given that one of the key focus …
/r/MensRights09/02/26 05:36 AM
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I know that there is barriers to changing this… but literally no one other than men can change that. I grew up in a family of non touchers- with an extended family of non touchers. One of the biggest changes I have seen in the adult men/ and younger folk is a greater willingness to hug, sit close, watching my dad embrace his brothers and friends after watching years of hands off banter- jokes etc. People (but specifically men) will benefit from a shift in this, no one should have to wait for old…
/r/MensRights09/02/26 05:18 AM
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100 percent. The people in these African countries have been sold a lie to circumcise their children and men. As is always the case in places with high poverty, high levels of corruption and greed lead to everyday people being preyed upon. Yes - the levels of HIV are epidemic, and it is bringing these countries to their knees. However, more effective methods like barrier condom use, less sleeping around, and greater education are far more helpful than almost instituting a false “protective” prov…
/r/MensRights08/02/26 11:21 PM
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I’m pretty sure that all the men who love men are still getting the benefits of physical touch and intimacy.
/r/MensRights08/02/26 11:04 PM
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So how would you describe it ?
/r/MensRights08/02/26 06:22 AM
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You may have had that dream - not everyone- but regardless young people are vulnerable. When I was a kid - I dreamed of flying. Does that mean an adult should have taken me up to the top of a building and told me to jump ? No. We protect children.
/r/MensRights08/02/26 06:17 AM
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I think this needs to be pulled up because one idea is about consensual sex, and the other is about predatory rape. Rape is seldomly about sex- its often more about power/vulnerability. All people are capable of performing rape- and all perpetrators should be held account for it. A victim is exactly that, a victim who should never have faced what happened to them
/r/MensRights08/02/26 06:10 AM
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Often male offenders are treated to “more overt physical” treatment . More often than not this unfortunately gets the offender moved into environments with other “protected” offenders ( a lot of sex offenders) where they are freer and safer than their victims.
/r/MensRights08/02/26 05:58 AM
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Good
/r/MensRights08/02/26 05:52 AM
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No one needs to know - for you to write an email, send a letter, post an anonymous post on a local page- talking about issues. Lobby for changes- through your congress person, through local government. There is seldomly “nothing” we can do. People are gonna mock you for standing up for victims of rape ? Seems to me its a them problem.
/r/MensRights08/02/26 05:51 AM
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If the only option you see is staying (which I agree with the others - isn’t the best option.) Then its time to get real with her. If you don’t feel like you can do so, get some therapy / read some books / put some boundaries in place. Couples therapy (or mediator) to help you be able to say what you need to say. There is no reason why she cannot be contributing financially . Why is she not working in any capacity? (And why not for such a long time? ) Is there any disability or mental health rea…
/r/MensRights08/02/26 05:19 AM
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I haven’t seen all of his opinions or whatever else- from a basic read, he seems to talk about and ultra conservative /religious lifestyle that centres family in traditional goals. Which to me, is a lifestyle I am wary of- from many perspectives… but not my circus not my monkeys- and if he is presenting that to the public - they are likely to have an opinion on it. The show business industry has been shown to be an often horrendous place for children. The childhood assault is awful and perhaps g…
/r/MensRights08/02/26 04:54 AM
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If everyone’s stuff is on the “calendar” I don’t see the issue. Part of being in a family is being a part of that family, and the roles and responsibilities within it. Of course these should be distributed to workloads, availability and aptitude. But uploading it onto a external calendar/app whatever ensures that everyone is on the same page/ has access to the same data and takes accountability. It is a strategy that is used in many companies, with active diary and task management - because used…
/r/MensRights08/02/26 04:20 AM
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It doesn’t work like that. Domestic violence between people often isn’t solely physical- people are broken down, piece by piece by the abusive partner. There is a vulnerability there, regardless of the actual capacity for violence. People may have trauma responses to repeated violence which may present as fawning/freezing etc. Perpetrators/ victims are more likely to be prior victims of domestic /childhood violence so these reaponses can be ingrained. Someone’s physical stature or purported stre…
/r/MensRights07/02/26 05:20 AM
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And children
/r/MensRights07/02/26 04:57 AM
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Its a shit comment- and yes it can be.
/r/MensRights07/02/26 02:52 AM
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Thanks for sending through the article. It was interesting to read, and some of the associated studies. Maybe some women do prefer the aesthetic of cut penises- but it does not then necessarily go on to correlate that the preference results in cutting for aesthetic or sexual preference from the female. That would seems to go directly against the trend of circumcision in countries (like Australia and Canada) that have seen dramatic changes in the rates of circumcision over the years. For example …
/r/MensRights07/02/26 12:55 AM
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I believe that there are very cases of medically necessary vasectomy also. I haven’t heard so much about creams but I know there is some training/stretching / body modification practises that can assist also in making tighter foreskin more comfortable. Due to the difference in bodies and penises- there is likely to be a small number that may not respond to those practices/ or where they may not be appropriate. But that would account for a very small minority.
/r/MensRights07/02/26 12:19 AM
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This is clearly abhorrent - and not the prevailing preference.
/r/MensRights06/02/26 09:31 AM
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Like - i know that in the US circumcisison is common - but there are whole continents where it is not the “majority plan”… do people in those countries not want to be “pleased”? Or could it be that the medical board has not yet renounced it in the US ? Thus people are like sheep- folllowing the rules.
/r/MensRights06/02/26 09:29 AM
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What a load of hog wash. Women are more likely to see an erect penis (from a partner) at which point the foreskin largely retracts. As a general rule women will defer to men /medical for this decision. I’m not saying that there shouldnt be some kind of greater education for men and women about the other genders “genitalia” needs. Whether that be further information about the best methods of teaching a child to clean their respective body parts. Ie to retract or not, front to back, soap or not et…
/r/MensRights06/02/26 09:25 AM
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Me? I draw the line far before suggesting that someone feigning “Unconsciousness” wants sex.
/r/MensRights06/02/26 08:46 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/s/GfabaYcM38
/r/MensRights06/02/26 04:13 AM
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This is a horrendous and disgusting thing that happened to you. The link below has some support services that may be of use to you - if you need support for the next steps https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/s/keaFjY8Zgm
/r/MensRights06/02/26 03:59 AM
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I do love when you change the narrative - and accuse me of making stuff up, and then block me so that there is no right of response. Go you. I do have the images of the post yesterday. I was so inflamed, that I had taken screenshots. I think men and women have the right not to be raped. I will speak up about men saying predatory things on this subreddit.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 11:40 PM
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No. It isnt. There was a post yesterday that was removed.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 10:10 PM
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That is true. I agree that men can be raped, and made to penetrate is also a form of rape. This is also the law in my country. The terminology here is used without gender. If it helps rapey=sexual assaulty= predatory for this purpose.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 05:44 PM
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It was the scenario the OP posed in the gender reverse. He atated that she (actually multiple women had ) pretended to be unconscious , so that the man would take all the responsibility, for the sex the OP claimed she wanted. This was the scenario I called predatory and rapey.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 05:39 PM
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Ok. No one is calling ALL sexually referential behaviour “rapey”. I agree that some words can be thrown out hastily … If i were to flip the scenario. Woman out with man. They go home together. He gets naked and hops into bed. Appears asleep/ unconscious. Should she a. Assume that he actually is pretending and really wants sex or b. Leave him with a glass of water, maybe a paracetamol or two, tuck them in and sleep on the couch. One of these options seems predatory and dare I say it rapey. The ot…
/r/MensRights05/02/26 04:45 PM
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Ok. No one is calling ALL sexually referential behaviour “rapey”. If i were to flip the scenario. Woman out with man. They go home together. He gets naked and hops into bed. Appears asleep/ unconscious. Should she a. Assume that he actually is pretending and really wants sex or b. Leave him with a glass of water, maybe a paracetamol or two, tuck them in and sleep on the couch. One of these options seems predatory and dare I say it rapey. The other seems like what a regular human would /should do…
/r/MensRights05/02/26 04:40 PM
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Disagree. Its not gendered. Its about behaviour. If a female posted the same message in relation to a female/ male/ gender diverse person- it could be used interchangeably.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 03:49 PM
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Hmmm. I believe that the OP is directly referring to me and my use of the word in response to a post earlier today. Whether it has been used on this subreddit before idk. Have i heard it in other vernacular- in situations where one wants to call out certain behaviours that could be suggestive of overstepping the line. It is not gendered.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 03:43 PM
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Oh no. That was me. I’ll help fill in the “knowledge” gap for you. “Rapey” defined as “sexually aggressive or inappropriate in a way that causes fear or unease.” (Oxford dictionary). So when you posted that “ Women who pretend to be unconcious after taking off clothes and joining you in bed, because they want to have sex, but want you to have 100% of the responsibility”. You go further “ this will raise the ire of some, but I’m quite certain it happens frequently. Females, especially younger one…
/r/MensRights05/02/26 12:41 PM
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Sure it doesnt address the issue. But, we are kidding ourselves if we don’t think thats part of the plan. They are using deflection, devolution and dimwitted ideas and arguments to focus on ant problems when the damn elephants are filling the SuperBowl. Seriously, the minister of WAR addressing it ? Surely he has his dick in enough pots, he doesn’t need to insert it into scouts right now…
/r/MensRights05/02/26 08:24 AM
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Hmmm. Yay. US government does sweet FA on accountability for children raped in Epstein shitshow, ICE murdering people … but fuck… gotta get involved in kicking trans kids out of scouts. Make it make sense…
/r/MensRights05/02/26 07:47 AM
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100 percent. Most of the time people are going to be fine. I’m thankful that for the most part people are decent. Concerned that there is nearly 50 ppl upvoting the original post… and any detractions seem to be downvoted… which is disturbing at best.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 02:45 AM
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Some Rapists saying rapey things ? Some decent humans trying to respond. Certainly nothing that has to do with mens rights…
/r/MensRights05/02/26 01:47 AM
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Yes. Thankyou for being a decent human. Sad that these women need to call you to get home safely… but I believe this thread is highlighting the reason why.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 01:44 AM
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So, they got black out drunk to erase the guilt of something they hadn’t done yet… right. Thank goodness these “protectors” were there to take them home and not have sex with them. Who’s to say they ever had sex with them…?
/r/MensRights05/02/26 01:40 AM
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Hmmm… an odd proposition… if you are engaging with someone and they are not responding/deadfishing - why would you continue? Just say- sorry I want to be with someone who is as into this as me ?
/r/MensRights05/02/26 01:34 AM
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Vile… and 12 from the sounds of it.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 01:20 AM
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Yeah odd… the women and men I sleep with actually want to be there… I don’t know why you would be sleeping with a dead-fish…
/r/MensRights05/02/26 01:10 AM
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You are vile.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 01:07 AM
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Because they were breathing and couldn’t fight back ?
/r/MensRights05/02/26 01:06 AM
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Fuck … and they say women have the “in group” bias… let’s slam the woman and not the rapey one.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 01:05 AM
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100 percent this. Please do this. A man who is taking someone with home with good intentions shouldn’t give a damn, you are working together to ensure a vulnerable person is safe.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 01:04 AM
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If i was out with a blacked out /drunk dude they can also be taken home, and yes, If strangers stop me to check on them. Great. Shows fucking humanity.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 12:55 AM
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Wow. This sounds rapey and predatory. This may be one of the shittest posts I have read on here. Women who want to have sex- will show you by being enthusiastic consensual participants. Although, with a personality and predatory rapey beliefs like yours. I can’t imagine any women wanting to have sex with u.
/r/MensRights05/02/26 12:51 AM
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Which market ? Male prostitutes for men and women exist.
/r/MensRights04/02/26 05:55 PM
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There is a market for male prostitutes for women. Many women also like men. But- its ok… either way. Prostituting yourself to a “normal guy” wont be humiliating nor degrading.
/r/MensRights04/02/26 05:46 PM
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Well given your argument in the other thread they could just “choose” to be prostitutes instead.
/r/MensRights04/02/26 04:49 PM
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Yes- but who are they sleeping with? Other women?
/r/MensRights04/02/26 05:03 AM
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It sucks for all reproductive systems. Just haven’t had much of a choice otherwise.
/r/MensRights04/02/26 04:51 AM
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The female medical professionals are in the majority not doing it for fetish. They are doing it for their job. Yes- should there be an option for a male or female to do it - sure. But many men would also not wish for a man to be getting up in his junk. This annual exam thing seems to be a USA thing. It doesnt seem to be commonplace here in Australia. It seems to be to test for undescended testes/ inguinal hernias which can have impactful implications on male fertility- and since we don’t general…
/r/MensRights04/02/26 04:44 AM
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Given the topic was hook up culture (rules and structures applied to men in hook up culture). Did anyone actually find the clip - as I would like to see what these rules and structures that are being talked about ? Or could someone enlighten me…
/r/MensRights04/02/26 04:02 AM
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100 percent agree its the right thing to have halted that trial.
/r/MensRights03/02/26 01:10 PM
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Yeah… nah… solid pass.
/r/MensRights03/02/26 01:05 PM
2

Yeah. I guess it’s the option to have another option., which is in male hands. Honestly, using at least doubled up meaures is always going to be better practise. Ideally in hookups or relationships when you havent established sexual health- one of those should still be a barrier method- for stds. So much of the stats of “effectiveness” is based on perfect usage of drugs. Same time each day, never skipped, not taking certain anti-biotics etc, vomiting issues, different weights gets the best effec…
/r/MensRights03/02/26 01:01 PM
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I’m glad that they have worked on a new formulation that reduces /removes that risk. You do realise that depression and suicidality is a potential side effect of the female pill too- that millions of women are prescribed every year. Fucking around with hormones etc can have a vast impact.
/r/MensRights03/02/26 12:41 PM
1

Why bother with what?
/r/MensRights03/02/26 12:31 PM
0

Thanks for the info.
/r/MensRights03/02/26 01:14 AM
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I mean sure. I don’t trust random men to take a pill every day. I don’t trust myself/ random women to take a pill every day. Hence why I use a longer term method. Hopefully it comes in soon- so that people feel more “equipped “ to protect themselves. Somewhat concerned about the rise in STD’s in hook up culture… I guess that just places greater emphasis on people maintaining those boundaries.
/r/MensRights02/02/26 11:14 PM
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I mean… as a fellow older person. Sure I remember the days of older internet/ IRC channels… It was my “tinder” of the online world as well as talking shit about different topics. Certainly due to the text based more “techy” design IRC style chats tended more to a male audience than female. I can’t remember any female friend accessing them. Which is obviously very different from today. I think that those days though, there was a lot less political correctness generally/ more openly IRL alongside …
/r/MensRights02/02/26 08:37 PM
1

The conversation continues- a perspective that advocates for not minimising harm against victims still supports the OP. You seem to wish to derail it… and shift the attention to some type of nefarious intent… I don’t know what you are on about with the rest of the “notallmen” stuff. I don’t hang in womens subs- If you feel I have “broken” the rules - complain to the mods. You seem to be following your own agenda- which is to further take away from the OP.
/r/MensRights02/02/26 03:26 PM
1

Women are not centered in my response.
/r/MensRights02/02/26 03:01 PM
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WTF are you on about?
/r/MensRights02/02/26 07:29 AM
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Yes to this. Looking at it from an ADHD lens (which has a heightened impulsivity factor- suicides rates are incredibly high) and not necessarily connected to longer term depression.
/r/MensRights02/02/26 03:02 AM
1

There are other reasons that contribute to this gap. I think that you are right that they need specialised fit for purpose responses, due to the individual pressures either gender faces. Performative is harsh, and may be true in some cases. But not all cases and thus shouldn’t be generalised as such.
/r/MensRights02/02/26 02:33 AM
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I gotta say I was looking for the 6:6:6 stats…
/r/MensRights01/02/26 09:08 PM
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I’m not saying that access to support (whatever that looks like- dv shelter, support insitu) isnt essential. It’s not about denying resources- its making sure that the best fit resources are available. Which is why I asked- what would better support /safe spaces look like? My genuine intention is not to minimise the need for support - just to ask what is the best support fit. To give an analogy- two people have a disability, both are given a wheelchair, but only one needs it and the other needs …
/r/MensRights01/02/26 03:35 AM
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Ahhh, thank you for clarifying that. So the OOP is the example (starting at “when I say women…) presumably posted on another reddit/social media… got it. I was agreeing with his post/ and your post… Thank you for taking the time to explain/clarify.
/r/MensRights01/02/26 01:51 AM
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Sorry I don’t understand what OOP means. Of course men can be victims of female violence. Sorry - I’m not entirely sure what you are trying to say and how to respond. I don’t think that people’s experiences of abuse should be minimised. Men, women, gender-diverse , just people.
/r/MensRights01/02/26 01:27 AM
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I don’t disagree that services are severely lacking for male victims of abuse. I agree that a feminist voice has contributed to (along with other factors) services being systemically wary of / failing to recognise male victims - and not providing adequate support to make victims of abuse. I think that it is something that requires more investigation and action. I sometimes see on here the desire for male domestic violence shelters etc- and yes, whilst obviously that is an option- is it the best …
/r/MensRights01/02/26 12:05 AM
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There is no point in arguing with you. You have your perception of women. I don’t agree or align personally with your broad brush approach. I believe that most people are good, worthy of compassion and empathy. Do I agree with everything everyone says on this subreddit? fuck no. Can I see that men are hurting and give a shit enough to listen, reflect and maybe gain a greater understanding- Yes. Do I need to denigrate women or their experiences to do so- no. Things in life can exist in an duality…
/r/MensRights31/01/26 10:03 PM
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Ok
/r/MensRights31/01/26 07:58 PM
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👏… you found me in another post to denigrate me here. Congratulations.
/r/MensRights31/01/26 07:34 PM
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Hmmm. 🤔 No where on this post have I advocated for violence of any kind. In fact I have repeatedly said that people shouldn’t hit people. I have also acknowledged that all people are capable of hurting other people . I will acknowledge that you didn’t necessarily promote “retaliatory” violence to the full extent- it “could” be self defence.
/r/MensRights31/01/26 07:13 PM
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It may be part of your previous injury- but it may also be part of your trauma response. It interlinks into the fight/flight/freeze/fawn/flop trauma responses. Everyone relates and reacts to trauma in different ways, generally based on previous experience, upbringing, socialisation etc. Its why they have tried to shift the narrative of victims needing to display the behaviours of physically fighting back- which doesn’t always reflect how our bodies relate to a threat.
/r/MensRights31/01/26 08:52 AM
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Just mentioning what another had said earlier. Noone should be minimised.
/r/MensRights31/01/26 07:49 AM
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No. I’m not under any delusion that women are always wonderful. I 100% acknowledge that women can inflict physical and emotional pain. Where did I write anything that follows the narrative you are “touting”. Then you go further to promote retaliatory violence ? Weird.
/r/MensRights31/01/26 07:40 AM
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I don’t like to gender these discussions- because victims are often re-victimised by society, and often the services that are meant to support them- and its not ok, it’s incredibly harmful and we all need to draw attention to it when we see it occur on either side. As humans we all have incredibly vast life experiences, bodies, brains, abilities and traumas- so using “narrow” frames of who can be a victim/ perpetrator is useless and harmful. Whatever is minimised; men being physically hurt by wo…
/r/MensRights31/01/26 06:32 AM
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They are. There is a far bit more to that statistic- but It does show that women have the capacity to physically hurt in a significant way. People should not hit other people.
/r/MensRights31/01/26 04:57 AM
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That wasn’t my idea- someone else mentioned that the men get “shamed for walking” away down below. Also not my post.
/r/MensRights28/01/26 09:54 AM
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It is truly vile and abhorrent. But there are vile abhorrent paedophiles on both sides, it doesn’t make the majority responsible for the actions of the evil people.
/r/MensRights28/01/26 09:51 AM
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I didn’t say that it would be easy or uncomplicated, just that it was not a given that he would have to pay. The most likely outcome is that he won’t. There is case law generally about how this section is used, but little case law on how it is used in circumstances like this due to privacy.
/r/MensRights28/01/26 09:45 AM
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Ahhhh, so, the men get “shamed” for walking away, and doing whatever they like and you shame all the single mothers who show up every day… because of the “poor outcomes”-… I mean… what accountability do the men hold in that ?
/r/MensRights28/01/26 09:28 AM
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Every dollar I have earnt has gone to housing/feeding and providing for my children. i have been fortunate to have had a great income. I still disagree that raising children is all about money. The time, love, headspace, sacrifices, energy and just all the damn acts of everything is the significant “cost”. Children can be bought whatever- but the most valuable thing that they can receive is our presence and guidance. We can want for college $$$ etc- but that is not the essential stuff.
/r/MensRights28/01/26 09:18 AM
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Depending on where you live - a quick google has given me the details of three ( on the first page) in my Australian city. Another thing I read suggested was that if seeking a male only gym also potentially look into spaces where there is culturally a male/female divide. Ie. In areas where muslims are the predominant cultural/religious group.
/r/MensRights28/01/26 09:07 AM
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The Child support assessment act (s.117) has provisions for special circumstances which are used in these scenarios. The law is not perfect, and struggles to account for the minutae of every situation. Hence, why there are often clauses that allow for discretionary decisions to be made in relation to this. He is still “legally” a parent- but would be eligible to reliquish parental responsibility too. Many of these things will be occuring in the background- and not the foreground of any criminal …
/r/MensRights28/01/26 02:10 AM
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Ahhh… of course… asking a question and seeking clarification is womansplaining… not me wondering where all of the rape was? (which is how false accusations are often couched on here). And someone - was kind enough to offer an explanation.
/r/MensRights28/01/26 12:48 AM
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It depends. I had a very planned one, knew much earlier- next kid (wanted) but earlier than anticipated, I didn’t twig until I was 14 weeks, standing at an open bar at a wedding, with no kids… and realised the only thing I wanted to drink was an orange juice….
/r/MensRights27/01/26 10:10 PM
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I’ve noticed it both ways. I’m in my mid 40’s and been going to gyms for over 20 years. They, like life, reflect all kinds of people. Its a lot less overt /loud these days… Mind you… I just got back from the gym and indecently assaulted everyone there with a malfunctioning swimsuit so maybe I am the problem…
/r/MensRights27/01/26 09:58 PM
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No. Its not a law here. There are specific exemptions for not having to pay child support. Just usual people talking shit. When she goes to jail (not if), it will be interesting to see what occurs to the child. What a shit situation for the victim and the new child.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 09:25 PM
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It happens. Its far from the majority. But a few shit people shouldn’t create the only narrative.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 09:07 PM
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Ahhh, thanks for clarifying how that works in a gym- I’d forgotten about the social media/tiktok version of gyms. I’m not entirely sure that a male only gym now equals a society segregated though…
/r/MensRights27/01/26 09:05 PM
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No of course you didn’t make a fool of yourself. Sorry - text seldomly accounts for tone. I had wondered the same thing as it wasn’t explicit in the article. I’m generally too rage baited to read the daily mail or Uk versions of the articles- who frame shit to get engagement, cashing in on the misery of victims, so I tend to go to media sources that don’t do that. I don’t know where you are based (but in Aus) the general school curriculum has embedded respectful relationships curriculum at every…
/r/MensRights27/01/26 08:59 PM
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She had previously taught him. But, he would have aged out of that school at that time (most likely). Lets not blame schools of not teaching consent (they do) or anyone for not speaking up. Lets leave the accountability with the rapist. The person committing the crime. The person who likely groomed this child. Children are vulnerable.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 07:20 PM
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Segregation - and having an option to join a male only gym are two different things.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 07:15 PM
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Huh ? What does having a male gym have to do false accusations?
/r/MensRights27/01/26 07:13 PM
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Great. I don’t see it as an issue. Men can have mens gyms, and women can have womens gyms, and there can also just be gyms- for people.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 07:11 PM
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Its pretty fucked if it is
/r/MensRights27/01/26 07:02 PM
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100 %.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 06:34 PM
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She is a child rapist. She will go to jail. The UK needs to bring in media laws to stop the “reporting” of this disgusting slop.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 06:20 PM
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100 percent. Thank you- but also no need. People need to work together to change these things, and recognise the limitations of the other gender rather than instinctively weaponising it. People should be taught about the struggles and reality’s of both genders both mentally/physiologically. Even as I say that- even taught more realistically about our own bodies (without shame/embarrassment). A dad should be able to navigate his daughter through a menstrual cycle and a mum should be able to give …
/r/MensRights27/01/26 01:19 PM
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I’m not sure “reconsider” but- i did have a decent discussion with my partner last night about a historic situation. Earlier in our relationship- I had a fear that I may have been pregnant, and never spoke to him about it until way after the fact. I hadn’t been, but would have 100 % not had that child, and may/may not have disclosed this. Reflecting - I probably would have disclosed- because I talk too much- but would have prioritised my own decision making and disregarded his (at the time and s…
/r/MensRights27/01/26 01:02 PM
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No one is disagreeing that the American political system is a shitshow. I don’t normally do political - because its not part of the sub. I don’t think that focusing on gender divide is helpful in America at this point. You need to focus on humanity.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 12:40 PM
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But, not necessarily… the window is different. Ok. So lets for a moment take a scenario. I have been in a relationship with x for 12 months. I’m 32. It’s monogamous, you live together but not sure about the whole 9 yards, we talk about future but not in ring/ wedding terms (its still a little more obscure) , so committed andl lives intertwined. we fuck, we fuck all the time, one time sex happens and a baby is formed - no fault ( was it precum/ was it a mistimed pill whatever)- just is… Womens pe…
/r/MensRights27/01/26 12:10 PM
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So little of raising a child is about the $$$ though. And I think that often these arguments rely a lot on a financial component. As an adendum - I want to add that I was always had the higher income, and also paid to the other (so I get the perspective from a couple of angles - not the same- just have a view from a different podium). I wouldn’t say the duress is a one way street though. There is a potential from many directions- whether to keep or to abort the child (from actual or perceived pr…
/r/MensRights27/01/26 11:57 AM
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So little of raising a child is about the money though… and so much of these debates are about saving $$$. When realistically, any money goes such a tiny way into raising a child.
/r/MensRights27/01/26 10:41 AM
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I’m really sorry that you are struggling with depression. Its fucked, and the mental health systems in many countries and spaces are struggling and not meeting needs (even when they are desperately trying). Honestly, support is lacking regardless of gender. All we can do is shift our focus. Go back to basics. Sleep. Nutrition. Touching grass. Connection. Exercise. It doesn’t need to be huge shifts to start. I enjoy KC Davis and their perspective on morally neutral care tasks. Tiny minute shifts-…
/r/MensRights27/01/26 10:34 AM
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M2F PIV Sex does equal a risk of pregnancy. I do see that there is (technically) an uneven balance, but, biologically, that is also a reality of the situation. I see issues with the practicality/humanity/ efficacy of the “financial abortion” practice that is often touted here. It requires a rather expedited experience through a rough system/ transition, including a legal element, which can contribute to a risk of decisions being made under duress. Deciding whether or not to have a child is not d…
/r/MensRights27/01/26 10:19 AM
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I will cop on to having done that when younger/ drunk- will reconsider those actions. I see the second interaction being more about either a. A rude person ( presuming it was a singular stall) b. Someone with an extreme urge/need to go (maybe rude- but probably better than someone with a condition shitting in their pants).
/r/MensRights26/01/26 05:19 AM
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I sit uneasy with this comment today. Because I can simultaneously understand both perspectives. I understand the online rhetoric is fucked and the posts and comment sections of many spaces are also fucked. We do need to consider our algorithms , and who we engage and how we engage with people as to what narrative is being pushed- as a driver for the overwhelming hate we are seeing. I have had to shut down a lot of stuff because it does show us the worst of humanity and people say whatever the f…
/r/MensRights26/01/26 05:14 AM
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Wtf are any reporters in any locker room. Male or female? People are in a state of undress. Any media coverage should be completed in another space.
/r/MensRights26/01/26 03:51 AM
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There is a lot of people like this though in the world though, who have poor concepts of money management. My financial situation is quite different now, but I grew up with a lot less financial security so have a bit of concept of both. Even now where I have surplus to requirement, I still have a moderate car, buy clothes from regular stores, and don’t go out much for meals etc. iI do like to travel, so will spend more there, but still economy/ modest accomodation etc. i watch some of the people…
/r/MensRights26/01/26 02:20 AM
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I totally acknowledge this as a trauma and mutilation, and it should be outlawed (unless medically required). I fought hardcore for my children to not be mutilated as children (religious-basis), but I also want to draw attention to the prevailing “argument” of women- was that they were following male /husband wishes /perceived societal pressure. It really needs to be spoken more about in public domain. Many people would support if they knew that it was just as harmful- whereas they are sold a li…
/r/MensRights26/01/26 01:32 AM
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I agree with this. I seldomly hear men complain /shame “their” women as much as women do “their” men- in real life… (online will depend on your algorithm) (Husbands/wives- relationships etc). Especially in mixed crowds. Although, I would also say that there is a lot of (middle age) married women who don’t buy into these discussions either. There may be a number of contributing factors to this though; not only that men are “better.” (Saying that some wives are more critical of husbands) Most crit…
/r/MensRights26/01/26 01:26 AM
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Good for you. Porn is like most of the “desirable” things- ok in moderation. I’ve had addiction issues in the past (and probably present🙈), so I just wanted to acknowledge that changing shit is hard- so best of luck to you.
/r/MensRights26/01/26 12:17 AM
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I mean I think its interesting - I read a little more about these systems the other day- and realised that you had applied what was essentially created to look at more economic/business thought processing and were not necessarily all or nothing or intended to be gendered. I think the generalisation into the gay/lesbian/hetero relationships was a little biased. I’m not disputing all of it- by any means, just that there are different contributing factors. Yes- gay marriages (between 2 men) are sta…
/r/MensRights26/01/26 12:11 AM
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I understand what you are talking about. Sometimes there are realities of life, especially at the moment when times are economically harder. If after all the bills are paid, there is little or no money left that is just the reality of the current situation. I moreso worry when one party seems to have free’r access to “additional” funds, and the other doesn’t. But, from the outside, its much harder to judge.
/r/MensRights25/01/26 11:57 PM
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That, I totally understand. You are not required to do anything- I just wanted to validate your experience. However, either way, talking about it, however you feel comfortable with doing that, or seeking professional support- whatever and however that looks for you may be helpful. I hope that you get some peace and the support that you need. I’m also sorry that the abuse (whatever that is) has occurred in your other relationship too.
/r/MensRights25/01/26 11:46 PM
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In this scenario there are 2 different factors going on. One- intoxication (whether by alcohol or the unknown drugs) Two- him saying no. Someone pushing and pushing someone to have sex, especially when they are intoxicated, there is an imbalance of power there. Consent needs to be free and voluntary- like “fuck yes, I want to be doing this…” (and for the old people like me in the room, I will acknowledge that this is harder when you have been together for a long time- that level of excitement ma…
/r/MensRights25/01/26 11:41 PM
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I’m sorry that happened to you
/r/MensRights25/01/26 11:28 PM
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What a load of bullshit, and so fucking harmful to victims of rape and assault.
/r/MensRights25/01/26 11:25 PM
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It’s just rape. I wont’t speak to the laws in your state/country. But what occurred is rape. I don’t know what this “revisionist” bullshit is that this dude talks about… it sounds like something someone dodgy would say. Depending on the individual situation in your state / country there may be statutes of limitations on crimes, there may be historical laws that may not “include” the type of offending that occurred. But in todays definition of rape and consent, where I live this is rape. Regardle…
/r/MensRights25/01/26 11:25 PM
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There are a myriad of different bodies, strengths and compositions within humans. Whilst men are “biologically” stronger than women- this operates on a spectrum, where some women would be stronger than some men. Whether physically strong or not , no one should be hitting one another, outside of consensual sports and activities.
/r/MensRights25/01/26 11:05 PM
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There is nothing wrong with wanting physical intimacy, craving it, and valuing it - there is nothing inherently disgusting about it. However, we have no entitlement to it.
/r/MensRights25/01/26 06:53 AM
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They shouldn’t be able to. No one should be hitting anyone. Much of education rhetoric and programs (you know the so called “anti-male” system) teaches children to keep their hands to themselves, as should parents.
/r/MensRights25/01/26 06:51 AM
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I say this kindly- I understand that your comment here is based on a clinical/dsm definition of a pedophile. Which is someone who has sexual arousal for a prepubescent child. However, societal convention often conflates a pedophile = child sex offender. Which is someone who rapes or assaults someone under the age of consent / or in a power dynamic. This is a circumstance where your stance can “technically” be correct- but needs to have clarity. So the female in this account would still be a rapi…
/r/MensRights25/01/26 02:34 AM
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Yeah. I do. Considering the mental health concerns that people in these fields deal with, and the incredible trauma they are exposed to, and the fact that many of them are people facing. Yeah, cry and have big feelings - they are human too.
/r/MensRights25/01/26 01:46 AM
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I’m not sure that going to the gym or mowing the lawn are not okay tools as well. Yes, I think that men should be able to express emotion more, without stigma and with receptive ears to listen. But, that doesnt mean that there isn’t utility and regulation in doing the other options. They provide endorphins/dopamine- and a routine activity that provides emotional regulation. I’m female- sometimes I cry, and sometimes I launch into productivity. Sometimes its to dopamine mine/mental health- someti…
/r/MensRights25/01/26 01:41 AM
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Thank you for this post. If i could like it 1000 x over I would. I don’t have the timeframe to address it properly right now, but wanted to acknowledge the reflection and capacity formulating it took. There are significant and inherent positives of both styles of dealing with feelings and the downsides which you have captured quite aptly. I think both men and women can learn from one another (when they stop pitting against each other) better ways forward. I know I have learnt a lot from the cont…
/r/MensRights25/01/26 01:17 AM
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Men or children who are raped should not be held accountable for the costs or the responsibilities of the child. Just as women who are raped should be able to access legal abortions/ free plan b/ etc. I am looking forward to male pill so that this argument (excuse) becomes null and fucking void- mind you - STD’s will likely skyrocket. However, A condom is highly effective- use a spermicide alongside it -especially when combined with a properly taken contraceptive pill/ iud/ and other devices. Gr…
/r/MensRights24/01/26 01:42 PM
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Hmmm. I guess that is case by case- because I would distinguish between discipline and abuse, but obviously thats on individual scenarios.
/r/MensRights24/01/26 05:51 AM
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Yeah- not disagreeing with the average on that… just that it obviously varies, country to country, income to income. I believe here (Oz) if the other does not declare an income, so is on “ welfare” payment, they pay about $30 a month for all the kids. Which is where, especially at those lower income families suggesting the custodial parent is living it up- is a fair stretch.
/r/MensRights24/01/26 05:44 AM
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I’m just trying to contextualise- could you give an example of a boundary that would be toxic etc ? My head is stuck on more positive ones- like saying no to a family member who keeps asking for money to support them. Ie. Once/twice - spread the love. After that it may become enabling there decisions so - you put a boundary in place? Doesn’t seem toxic or abusive.
/r/MensRights24/01/26 05:31 AM
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Not true. If the children are planned within a relationship, and the other parent decides to leave, at any point after 30 days post birth- all of those options fucked off… along with the other person. Here, men can (not all- there are plenty of good decent dads) lie about income, find loopholes, drop out of traditional employment, and not see kids and not pay for them. The woman doesn’t have choices, its child abandonment.
/r/MensRights24/01/26 05:01 AM
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Ok. I will bite on that one… I used to pay a fuckload more than that, because of my wage- but lets base it on your $500 a month. I spent over $400 at the supermarket last week. 1 adult and 3 kids. No nappies- no pet food, a few cleaning supplies, and meat. Normally it would be around $300-350. $500 a month has literally just paid for around 1/2 of the food my kids will consume. As soon as we add in - well, anything… its over that. Potentially in the super high earners, the lower income earner is…
/r/MensRights24/01/26 04:57 AM
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In what world do you live that feeding, housing, gaining medical/dental attention for your children does not require money ?
/r/MensRights24/01/26 04:48 AM
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Shame it doesn’t work like that… I’d love a night off. But apparently if I drop the kids off its called “child abandonment” for him its called “his choice”. Yay 🎉
/r/MensRights24/01/26 04:44 AM
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I agree that the media plays a large role in who is getting the attention and voice in any narrative. Especially in places with less media “reform” but regardless they do and frame to get engagement - which is depressing in itself when I read any damn comment section. I don’t think that the “helpless” women trope has only been since feminism though, I believe that ties also into traditional framing of men as protectors and women as the weak. But, as cynical as it now becomes I wonder if it is al…
/r/MensRights24/01/26 04:40 AM
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Traditionally? Like the crazy old cat lady spinster that no one wanted and men are the “couldn’t be tamed bachelor- living life on his terms”. Not a criticism as to how you live your life- I think we should all do whatever the hell floats our own boats. So now the upset is now that the societal tables or “messaging” around it has changed ? I still intermittently hear both interpretations of the “stereotype” but probably more of the man being lonely now- but algorithms and all of that stuff….
/r/MensRights24/01/26 04:24 AM
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Similar to many of the women above. I am curious and seek greater understanding of the problems facing people. My work/life path has taken me through a law career which has shown me the worst in people humanity, into DV/ trauma areas, and I’m now studying and pivoting career paths again- because I am jaded. I don’t think that pitting genders against each other is helpful, I don’t think that any gender as a collective is responsible for all of the shit things that individuals do. I like men, I lo…
/r/MensRights24/01/26 03:41 AM
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Where do women have rights to hit men or sexually abuse them ? In many countries these laws are gender neutral. (Although there may be different outcomes- as the law can oppress men and women). I agree that men should not be circumsised or have forced conscription (or anyone for that matter- many of the wars have nothing to do with protection- just assets). I think that child custody/ child support laws disadvantage both genders differently.
/r/MensRights24/01/26 03:26 AM
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Sometimes it has to do with bias and perspective though. I saw the beginning of the Emotional intelligence post earlier- and found parts of it interesting- and was going to come back to it. I found your premise interesting - but couldn’t quite make the same jumps that you have. I think that you are right in some ways, socialisation and training have a lot to do with how we manifest our individual behaviours. Are you attempting to align genders with these systems or just “personality or traits to…
/r/MensRights24/01/26 03:11 AM
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Yeah. Cool. So- people reap what they sow? Like what is the point of this “dystopia” People should stay alone and individualistic, look out for themselves, toil for themselves and wait for the end of their days… which will come much sooner (although the world is doing an awesome job of fucking itself over without your “mod”), as there will be no more children and we all just die out, going to work, staring at a screen with our fleshlight or rose toy on the sofa next to you ? Like I am being some…
/r/MensRights24/01/26 02:52 AM
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Sheesh. Out-burp… them were fighting words…
/r/MensRights22/01/26 03:20 AM
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Who even is this 20 something with opinions… sheesh she gets me triggered with her manipulation of the information… The first two women only seem to be discussing their issue with the transition or shift- regardless of why a marriage/job/house/friendship comes to an end people may still harbour some feelings around it. Transitioned to work from home- love it 90% of the time- sucks 10%, can move from a house but miss the back deck, or location, likewise leaving a relationship has the good, the ba…
/r/MensRights22/01/26 03:17 AM
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I have female friends who would do the same thing. There are plenty of people who deflect from “serious” conversation- or only engage in it with actual friends rather than random colleagues or acquaintances. I presume from what I have seen/observed/heard about that male conversation is often more banter /shared interests- with maybe more “serious” conversation reserved for close friends/partners?
/r/MensRights22/01/26 03:10 AM
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I mean the reality is that yes, there are are many people doing physical jobs that would leave you physically exhausted. But there is a vast majority of us who are spending time on our butts in front of a screen or person just doing “work”. Couples need to work that stuff out based on their own unique situation, work ratio and fluctuating capacity (of illness/mental health/Nd).
/r/MensRights21/01/26 11:23 AM
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Hard disagree. I personally think that handing kids a tablet is a super shit idea. In the amounts of time I experienced being a SAHP, our days were busy and engaged- doing actual interactive tasks and attempting to engage curiousity and excitement and thinking in their lives. Growing vegetables, and visiting community, bike rides, and scooters, reading and storytime, footy in the park, and meals made from scratch. Sure we had a washing machine, and an oven- but this “easy parenting” trope of out…
/r/MensRights21/01/26 11:20 AM
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I agree - the feminists who fought and advocated for massive and important societal change were baddass, powerful and capable. It shits me too when people don’t give them the props they deserve.
/r/MensRights21/01/26 11:12 AM
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I mean the fact that women are shopping more is seen in every damn shopping mall, supermarket etc. Women who are now often working are often still in charge of the majority of the family “life” spending too. Yes, they tend to buy more flowery shit, but they are also majority shopping for the school shoes, the dental appts, the pj day at school, family gifts, underpants, the office party, the tile choices, the tapware, the cereal and the toilet paper to wipe our collective arses…
/r/MensRights21/01/26 11:08 AM
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Nah. Upvote here. Totally agree. People can face adversity and still not be the victim. Often people with very little are the most content. Those who focus on what they perceive others to have - rather than focusing on their own journey will always lose… Centre/center yourself and your people, join community, give to others, seek real world experiences, and make small changes that make your life better. Hold yourself accountable for your reactions and actions. If mens rights is important to you,…
/r/MensRights21/01/26 11:03 AM
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Again. Chores are gender neutral and should be divided by time and availability. Being male or female does not make us more or leas capable of any of these tasks.
/r/MensRights20/01/26 12:23 PM
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Well… people pay someone to clean, cook or house-keep for them, let alone when children are involved. So chores are/can be actual labour. It shows that you have given a value to chores as irrelevant? Chores should be gender neutral and divided upon available time. Most people work these days in a variety of roles. Thus, the division of labour needs to be divided to the hours and jobs undertaken.
/r/MensRights20/01/26 11:36 AM
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This can be a really tough time… I think sometimes black and white discussions on this topic are hard because they don’t properly account for these stages of life. Which are incredibly difficult for all parties- with a definitive shift from solely sexual partners to partners in crime. Good luck- keep communicating.
/r/MensRights20/01/26 11:19 AM
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I would somewhat tend to agree. But to extend it to all genders. We cannot rely on any one person to be our island and only salvation. We all need a village - whether thats a handful, a tribe or a football field. We cannot expect one person to take the weight or all of our expectations and hold it, and keep it safely. Its not sustainable.
/r/MensRights20/01/26 11:15 AM
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I feel like its more of a western thing - and potentially an older people thing? Although, happy to be wrong. I see younger people are more physically emotive, and often different cultures seem to have normalised same sex (non sexual touch more). Its one of the advantages of a more collectivist community- rather than this individual slant we are all on. We need people. We need human touch regardless of sexual touch.
/r/MensRights20/01/26 10:27 AM
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Thanks for the link. I have watched the link- and can certainly see how Bettina reiterates the importance of intimacy for men, and marriage generally. Some of her comments and anecdotes, certainly ring true for my understanding of how to keep a relationship going in many ways. For example- having boundaries on the information that we share with female friendships. Realistically, no one else knows the nuance of any relationship, who the giver and receivers are, what is offered, and the negotiatio…
/r/MensRights20/01/26 10:06 AM
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A lot of the problems with this “take” is that there seems to be a lack of clarity /understanding around the reasons/rationale for why women may refuse physical touch and intimacy. Because sure, there is likely women in shit transactional relationships like Broad- advantage talks about, where sex/finances seemed to be currency to give or take away. However, the reasons why women (or men) don’t want to have sex in a relationship are not always “weaponised”- however it is often posed as so.
/r/MensRights20/01/26 05:05 AM
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No one is suggesting sexually assaulting someone, just normalising a hug. Genuine question to those who have this boundary of not touching other guys- why ? Does this extend to family members ? What is the fear ? I’m not talking about spooning on the couch (but thats ok too), but giving a mate a greeting hug ?
/r/MensRights20/01/26 04:18 AM
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Agreed. This link between physical touch only being “sexual” whether between men and women or men and men is nuts. I too enjoy it when I see young people unfussedly give eachother a hug.
/r/MensRights20/01/26 04:15 AM
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I don’t know that this is not the case with women also. Genuine love and affection are incredibly important to all human beings, from birth and up. I can certainly attest to feelings of calmness/ at oneness when having physical touch. Healthy relationships and partnerships generally thrive with this. I wonder if more than a compatibility issue, its more of a sign of underlying issues within the relationship; transactional interactions, physical intimacy only with “conditions” attached, misalignm…
/r/MensRights20/01/26 04:13 AM
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This is a hard read- and shows little historical understanding of exactly this occuring for so many damn years- and continuing… I don’t like the idea of it being used as a “manipulation” technique- but no… I haven’t seen this used in this way, yes, some women will biasedly promote other women- but I have often seen women being the harshest critics of other women too.
/r/MensRights18/01/26 08:35 AM
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I think there is some truth in the words. The more stripped back version of “MRA” doesn’t read as misogynistic (as some people on ) this subreddit/ comment sections of some posts, Just like the more original stripped back versions of feminism, don’t read as misandrist (as many people on feminist/ female posts.) The good and the bad of an “openly” moderated subreddit, is that it allows for a wider variety of viewpoints… which is also the negative, as you get tarred by the lowest common denominato…
/r/MensRights18/01/26 08:31 AM
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The crash out is 100 % fair. Thats a huge weight and unknown to be living with. What are the next steps in establishing whats going on? Are there any financial support safety nets in your country/state that can step in to at least meet basic requirements? This is huge and I am sorry that you are going through with it all.
/r/MensRights17/01/26 07:07 AM
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I’m not trying to be deliberately obtuse- but can you give an example of some functional style spaces. I’m wondering if it culturally isn’t as much of an issue here- or if I am not seeing it.
/r/MensRights13/01/26 09:02 PM
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I don’t understand what you are trying to say? Like genuinely (not playing stupid).
/r/MensRights13/01/26 05:03 AM
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It does seem to be quite framed. Ie. Tenure track Harvard - Humanities @ 18 %, whereas the stats in show men still hold 51 % of tenure track, in 2022 generally @ Harvard. It shows that there is greater focus on hiring a more diverse demographic within that 51 % - with people of colour /historically unrepresented people being actively engaged. Harvard would be most likely to be more desiring of a diverse and somewhat representative population given the level of international collaboration. I thou…
/r/MensRights13/01/26 04:56 AM
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I read this a bit - the idea of male or third spaces ? Is this a largely US thing ? Where have these spaces gone ? Only because I look around in Australia, and we have hundreds and thousands of sporting fields and indoor facilities which predominantly cater majority to male- dominated sports, bars, pubs, rotary, freemasons, scouts, mens sheds, let alone other gathering spaces like restuarants/cafes/parks/dedicated bike paths/beaches/libraries/gyms (which are less gendered). The spaces are here… …
/r/MensRights13/01/26 02:34 AM
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I wonder if thats a little bit of a chicken vs egg argument though too. Like the video games and social media work on dopamine connections and create shorter attention spans etc. AI is another fucked up part of the world. If we can achieve tiny hits through doing things in microseconds online, as opposed to greater toils of effort in real life, its human nature to seek easier… and by the time that we reallise that its not working for us, the addiction is harder to overcome, and we look to friend…
/r/MensRights13/01/26 02:25 AM
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Yeah. Hard disagree. I haven’t discussed personal circumstances of child SA or later SA with every group of people, a select few friends would know about it. There are many people who don’t discuss things openly of this nature (especially men.)
/r/MensRights10/01/26 03:37 PM
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Hey- I’m really sorry that you are feeling at rock bottom right now. We cannot help where our health leads us, and just need to roll with the punches that come with it. That being said… it still sucks. Your “friend” is not helpful right now. It is absolutely valid to put in boundaries that means that you are not as impacted by there views and opinions which are hurtful and damaging. I would create space from this person. You are chronically ill, and in pain and drained right now. Its likely comp…
/r/MensRights10/01/26 10:26 AM
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🤷‍♀️ - although wouldn’t care whether his partners were any gender… How does that matter ?
/r/MensRights10/01/26 07:57 AM
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Huh ? Since when are they sexual organs? Sexualised - sure - but not sexual organs. Both male and female breast tissue and nipples are “erogenous” zones, meaning that stimulation may promote sexual feeling. However, so are necks and ears- are we covering those too ?
/r/MensRights10/01/26 07:56 AM
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Maybe then its a sign that your values are not compatible? And why doesn’t this apply to men ? You say you don’t make the rules- but you have made a judgement and you are in control of your own “rules” - so why not be accountable for it. What makes it disgusting ?
/r/MensRights10/01/26 07:49 AM
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Yeah the body count = STD’s argument is low value. The whole promiscuity = bad is a concept I struggle with. I don’t even understand really the concept of asking/enquiring outside of a relationship moving towards not using protection- and even then, STD tests can be completed (cause whether 100 “sexploits” or 1 - an STD can still occur.)
/r/MensRights10/01/26 07:47 AM
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What are the evolutionary reasons ? I understand that there is no point debating “body count” on a religious standpoint - but I am curious about the evolutionary reason rationale?
/r/MensRights10/01/26 07:42 AM
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No. People shouldn’t be shamed for their body count. However 14 year olds also do not have the same pre-frontal cortex as older people do and therefore, as they are children, we may modify our response to account for that.
/r/MensRights10/01/26 07:32 AM
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Huh ? This is a fucked up way of looking at things.
/r/MensRights10/01/26 06:09 AM
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The problem with saying this “time and place for jokes” is that paeophilia is never a joke. You/ People have no idea of the life experience of any person around you- and how that “joke” may impact them. I can’t see anything funny about it ever. Let alone someone opening their mouth on a comment section of an actual rape/assault. There is no excuse.
/r/MensRights10/01/26 06:07 AM
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Thank you for this reminder.
/r/MensRights10/01/26 05:58 AM
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I can see what you are saying here. But the system and society punishes isn’t just whether you have been falsely accused or sexually assaulted. The system punishes everyone. The accused may be punished - as to is the non believed victim of an actual crime. Not to mention all of the people who never come forward about their crimes for the fear of judgement / stigma/ shame. There are very real outcomes on both sides of the frame.
/r/MensRights09/01/26 07:01 AM
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People who make false accusations should 100 percent be held accountable. But thats both men and women - so lets hold the people who are making false accusations accountability, and believe the people.
/r/MensRights09/01/26 06:55 AM
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We are all flawed. Anyone who pretends they are not, are flawed and a liar… I only say the thing about kids because I feel that so many of us shuffle in a direction because its expected, not because its actually something they deep down want. An advantage of being a man is that your window of opportunity may be a little wider than a same aged woman. There are so many social media and general media reports that whip people up in a frenzy- but often don’t accurately represent what is happening in …
/r/MensRights09/01/26 06:36 AM
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If the idea of kids makes your skin crawl…Don’t have them. You can choose whatever path you like. Have kids or don’t. Marry or don’t. Co-partner or don’t. Be celibate, find a fuck friend, pay for sex, or stick your cock in hole in the wall for gratification. Choose your own adventure and happiness. Work the job that brings you satisfaction, the hobbies that spark up your life, and the “chattels” you can afford. You can choose to have someone in your world to marry or not… No one beholds you to a…
/r/MensRights09/01/26 03:29 AM
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Not in Australia
/r/MensRights09/01/26 01:43 AM
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Whilst I agree with you that the act is what we commonly call rape (and what it would be if both people were of age) . Legally though, rape requires an absence of consent. However, the age of the child at the time of offending could never consent - as they are a child- and thus the offence comes under a different law. (Sexual penetration of a child under 16). This is the same regardless of the gender of perpetrators or victim legally.
/r/MensRights09/01/26 01:43 AM
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Come on now. Hardly. I suggest you check the comment sections of the article.
/r/MensRights09/01/26 01:38 AM
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Well- its illegal in Australia to portray it in that way- but this is a US paper- so it is under their “media” guidelines. The framing in these articles is horrendous. The comment section below them is worse. 100 % this woman is a paedophile monster.
/r/MensRights09/01/26 01:37 AM
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Woman here- married for close to 20 years. I was and remain the higher income earner, whereas my ex earned a steady income- but had significant periods of unemployment during the marriage. He was older though, and brought in some $ at the beginning of the relationship which enabled us to get a deposit on our first house when I was 19. There are positives and negatives to a marriage. Obviously it depends on the participants, and largely communication between one another. I got married young / had…
/r/MensRights09/01/26 01:06 AM
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Which is why so many jump straight back into another relationship with a woman so quickly … oh wait…
/r/MensRights09/01/26 12:47 AM
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Interesting perception and the problem with “traditional” style relationships. Men as their wallets and women as vacuous vaginas. I don’t remember men financing women as part of the marriage vows- only when stuck in traditional roles.
/r/MensRights09/01/26 12:45 AM
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Honestly. I think the nature of the internet and an online presence / social media has a lot to do with a lot of issues young people have today. Yes- there are some benefits- like access to communities etc for isolated people, information at our fingertips. But alternatively, these “goods” can and are used against us. Back in “my” day… bullying was limited to school grounds and the bike ride home (from external sources obv- family can do whatever). These days its 24/7 access from a device- which…
/r/MensRights07/01/26 08:20 PM
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I can’t see why gay men couldn’t be the most settled partnerships/ happiest/or what not? Rates of DV are consistently high within the LGBTIQA+ community- with some considerable issues with data collection and parameters. In Australia (where I live - and thus the data from which I derive statistics from), this data is still calculating, and we are probably 5-10 years off obtaining reliable information. There has been valuable information gathered by a “private lives” study which gives some insigh…
/r/MensRights07/01/26 08:46 AM
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I think life somewhat goes in cycles. Are you dating younger people? If there parents have done the work juggle, they want the opposite, and vice versa- just most young people now have had full time working parents- and the grass is always greener. Ive been both- i prefer to work (and have found it easier- despite having an incredibly stressful and demanding (but not physically so) job.
/r/MensRights07/01/26 08:12 AM
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I think some women have made it harder for most women, just as some men have made it harder for most men. Resulting in animosity and suspicion of the opposite sex. Combine this with a far more online world, where algorithms sway our thinking, general heightened anxiety (amongst all genders) and we have the clusterfuck that is going on now.
/r/MensRights07/01/26 08:08 AM
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100 % . Competing misery - Why ? Just why? Even the law recognises the difference between how people experience/deal with different events. Every individual can have entirely different outcomes. Stop with the competition about who has it worse. Can we not just talk about the struggles of each group/individual and crititically consider what interests and interventions can be made to relieve the suffering of them?
/r/MensRights07/01/26 06:35 AM
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Ummm. There is no downside of more quality teachers (male or female). Many schools are desperate in Australia for more teachers. There are considerable incentives available to people entering higher education to take up teaching, including government scholarships (for secondary - which is nearly 40% male), incentives and scholarships for those entering teaching as “change of career” participants. Much of the rhetoric around the teacher shortage, is due to additional expectations placed on teache…
/r/MensRights03/01/26 09:30 AM
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I can see where you are going with this - but its still unlikely (not impossible) to fulfil the criteria, but without the “photographed “to give context its still unlikely. it would need to be shown that you “knowingly intended” to capture their private moment. Someone in the background of a selfie probably wont (but possibly due to context) fulfil this requirement. It would have to be provent that this was indeed intentional “private activity “ may not meet the threshold, as private activity me…
/r/MensRights03/01/26 07:30 AM
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From a technical legal standpoint- we don’t know that anyones privacy has been violated? Unless we know the situation- as to consent or knowledge there is no violation of privacy in itself. Their needs to be an aggrieved party. There is also no confirmation as to the gender of the photographer only speculation. There is no evidence that the person was even using the urinal (only a likely presumption). Does bumble also ensure that everyone has given consent in “friend” photos ? No. I don’t care a…
/r/MensRights03/01/26 02:11 AM
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Yeah - maybe 🤔. What is the general perspective on urinals for men ? The people I have spoken to have had mixed responses, some chose a stall, others are content to use it for convenience/ or are unfussed. To me it seems to be any easy response to many of the restroom concerns, whether for gender diversity/safety/ or whatever else/ single stalls seem to offer greater privacy and efficacy.
/r/MensRights03/01/26 12:57 AM
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I don’t disagree with the fact that the photo is in poor taste and morally repugnant. But, from a merely legal and bumble standards viewpoint (in the standards shared by the OP), the photo has not in its existence violated those rules. If the OP was the person in that photo/ or the bystander, they may have more “standing”. Without knowing the jurisdiction of the image and the laws that govern that space - there is no likelihood of any remedy or change. If there was nudity etc - this may be able …
/r/MensRights03/01/26 12:53 AM
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I am a little conflicted on this one. First up. No, no one should be posting other images of people without permission on social media. But, likewise, I can see why it wasn’t enough to flag a Bumble removal. There guidelines are to ensure that there is no nudity, pornography etc - the photo you refer to doesn’t have this. It is in poor taste ( and I would view it this way whether man or woman), but it is unknown if the person was unaware or consenting to this photo (anything is a presumption). T…
/r/MensRights02/01/26 08:47 AM
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Hey- yes, I can’t remember the exact context in which ‘hoe phase’ was used, as the initial comment has been deleted. But in reference to the general use of terminology, yes, I think its increasingly common for words which were once used as insults to be adopted and “taken control” of/ or utilised, by the group by whom may have once been slandered by them. As for “hoe phase” I’m not sure that it is as widespread as it is purported to be, and women/ men /gender diverse ( as I have heard the term u…
/r/MensRights02/01/26 08:34 AM
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Wow. This was a hard watch. The guy is a grade A … d….. Not happy with women working and contributing to the family unit financially (and often at the same (or greater than levels than the menfolk) … and treating that like its a failure of women ? Men are just as capable of sharing care of children, to be loving, attentive parents, why do we have to stick with rigid binaries of men work, women at home with kids… Modern society should be recognising and reconfirming the worth and value of “people…
/r/MensRights01/01/26 11:33 AM
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Thank you for your response. I appreciate the consideration and thought that you put into responses. I want to acknowledge that we are likely to not agree on the topic of female sexual liberation/ behaviours. But over the time that we have interacted - I think that these are firmly held beliefs- and are held in expectation of both genders but also pursuant to cultural and ethical beliefs. So I want to acknowledge that I respect your viewpoint, as it ascribes to your core beliefs (or what I under…
/r/MensRights01/01/26 11:05 AM
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Good luck with seeking the therapy that suits your needs, and makes your life more comfortable, and easier going. Trauma is incredibly impactful and debilitating, and I want to acknowledge the difficulty that you (and anyone else trying to heal, recover or just wake up tomorrow putting one step in front of the other) are going through- and you are seen and worthy of support.
/r/MensRights01/01/26 10:30 AM
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Focus on the issue. Not the gender. Pitting one gender against the other is not in itself effective or real. Engage curiousity and critical thinking skills. Don’t treat either gender as “innocent” or “guilty”, recognise that there is bias, perspective, context and nuance. Acknowledge the impact of media, and power, and framing, and shitheads in every issue. Social media and algorithms lead us down deep dark paths- talk to people in real life. Be open to acknowledging and recognising the light an…
/r/MensRights01/01/26 10:04 AM
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Not an older man… obviously… but a woman (in her 40’s who has predominantly dated /married older men). First up- the older men I would date- don’t speak about women in that disrespectful way, 304’s? Really? That should be the advantage of an age gap, is that we are more mature than binary ideas of 304’s and incels and use critical thought. If you are saying that older men have advantages of “intelligence” (disagree- men can be intelligent at any age), and you mentioned less stable (but I am gues…
/r/MensRights01/01/26 09:51 AM
2

What are the “little tasks?“ that you give ?
/r/MensRights30/12/25 10:48 AM
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Apologies- I misread you as the commenter. I agree there are huge issues with societal implications of consent and who “agressors” are; and who are ‘victims’. (Edited to add- this is general rant here- not at you). I disagree with the depiction of women being either innocent or pure, and needing of protection because of their gender- because I think it shuffles a hierarchy of needs/values. I disagree with the depiction of men solely as agressors or protectors for similar reasons. I disagree with…
/r/MensRights29/12/25 03:34 AM
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Ha. I don’t think its about cheating- but the OP (oh you) used it as their “gotcha” analogy. Hence why I responded to it. So- what are you trying to say? Because where I live the law of rape involves consent, consent needs capacity, awareness and lack of coerciveness- whether man or woman. You have proven a bit your point here though about the double standard- because I disagree, I would say that a man who is drunk who does not have the capacity to consent has been raped, same with a woman, tran…
/r/MensRights29/12/25 02:56 AM
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It doesn’t have anything to do with whether or not people can consent.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 10:38 PM
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It is rape to sleep with a person who lacks the capacity to consent.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 10:28 PM
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Oh, this argument always floors me… So people can’t go into public “drinking” spaces anymore and drink ? No dancing at clubs ? No playing pool and hanging out socially? And expecting that one can go into these spaces and not be raped/sexually assaulted is not taking accountability?
/r/MensRights28/12/25 10:18 PM
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Oh come on now… if “someone” and then “she” - what about “they”… Many people prefer to have sex when drunk… sheesh, it would’ve been a sexless lot of last years of my marriage if I couldn’t have had a drink to at least lubricate some part of my body… (Jks- ish).
/r/MensRights28/12/25 10:08 PM
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And deservedly so. Cause the poster portrays a bullshit narrative- that harms everyone.
/r/MensRights28/12/25 10:04 PM
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Is the response “fucking crickets chirping” because its a poorly framed question ? That comparison mixes up two different questions. Cheating is about violating a relationship; consent is about capacity and freedom to agree. Being drunk doesn’t automatically excuse cheating, and it also doesn’t automatically create consent. The relevant question is whether the person was capable of understanding and freely agreeing at the time, regardless of gender.” As for why are women not held accountable for…
/r/MensRights28/12/25 09:52 PM
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Urgh… couldn’t even get through the description of that book. Yuck. Not my scene, but there has always been porny literature- via mills and boon style stuff… It has just become more mainstream rather than newsagent “fiction”. When is mens sexual desire treated as shameful by society ? I feel like these judgements are thrown in every direction by traditionalists towards men and women. I feel like not sensationalisising “normative” desire via porn in books or literature is important. I have watche…
/r/MensRights28/12/25 08:24 AM
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(Not trying to engage in argument- just discussion) I agree that we need to look to the past to see what works, but I also tend to agree with the OP / and you in the sense that, if we are recreating roles/ rigid ideals, we also can look to a “imagined” or different future. Because some of the limitations were either societial constructs, or engineering constructs or limited by things that couldn’t previously exist or be imagined. Whilst I do believe in biological difference between men and women…
/r/MensRights28/12/25 08:11 AM
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Are your friends you are partying with actually making false accusations or just expressing regret / comments that they may not have done that sober - which to my mind is different.
/r/MensRights27/12/25 10:34 PM
1

Can I ask for more clarification on your first point about the viability of actions or masculinity? Like what markers do we use to decide viability?
/r/MensRights27/12/25 05:45 PM
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There is a gun violence issue. Restrict the usage and access to guns.
/r/MensRights27/12/25 05:20 PM
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Genuine question- what exactly is wrong with this? Romance, romantasy, literotica, porn- its just a genre of books?
/r/MensRights27/12/25 05:09 PM
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But not necessarily when drunk or incapacitated- but yeah, its a difficult double standard.
/r/MensRights27/12/25 09:02 AM
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Or these people have a drinking problem.
/r/MensRights27/12/25 08:41 AM
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Thanks for the explanation. Well sure. Of course there other factors other than breathalyser that can give ‘evidence’ like witness testimonies etc, number of drinks. Of course these things are not as evident as a breathalyser. Also- considering the differential between two people- if both are blackout drunk it will be harder to prove than where one party is sober (ish) and one is not.
/r/MensRights27/12/25 08:37 AM
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Ok-so in theory the law works either way- but more often then not, it is the woman who (may) get away with it ? Is there a level or limit to “drunk” or is it subjective ?
/r/MensRights27/12/25 07:04 AM
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What is the drunk consent thing ?
/r/MensRights27/12/25 06:25 AM
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Are you in law enforcement or the CJS working that posters case ? The judge? Personally involved? Who are you to decide who lies or not ? I’m not saying that people don’t lie- or that false accusations aren’t made- of course they are. But a failure to sue the police for an illegal and fucked up statement does not make someone a liar. Attacking the legitimacy of someones rape claim or police response to it - absolutely is attacking someone- and to what end? And yes - you are right, there are not …
/r/MensRights26/12/25 03:50 AM
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This type of evidence is more effective in certain types of rape- ie. random stranger, unknown attacker, child/ underage, as the evidence may stand as itself. However, it works less effectively in a known to each other perpetration, especially when there is a history of / expectation of/possibility of sex between parties. As then it may be less about proving sex between parties/ instead proving consent.
/r/MensRights25/12/25 09:45 PM
1

I agree with you. The times i have heard it used are more in relation to “perceived negatives” of the subculture- misogyny, focus on appearance base hierarchy, hypergamy and resultant anti female thinking - rather than focusing on laughing at young men not having sex.
/r/MensRights25/12/25 05:58 PM
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What the hell is even this point of argument. How does it impact you personally in any shape or form? Why are you berating the victim of rape? There are infinite reasons why people do not pursue every form of legal recourse in many situations. Quit attacking someone.
/r/MensRights25/12/25 05:39 PM
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I’m sorry that you had to face to this unhinged tirade (for absolutely no reason) that the other poster put you through. You dont need to justify any of your actions or inactions to that poster.
/r/MensRights25/12/25 05:34 PM
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Which can or may occur in consensual sex. So not in itself, necessarily proving anything.
/r/MensRights25/12/25 05:14 PM
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Well, let's back up and look at the position you are actually taking: A MARRIED man is an AH for not wanting to wear condoms but letting his wife use birth control. I empathize MARRIED because that makes a huge difference. thats not why he is an AH. I have reiterated many times that close to NO one’s preference is to wear a condom in a long term relationship. “Condoms are the default for hookups. No condoms are the hookup for unmarried couples. If a woman agrees to have a one night stand it's pr…
/r/MensRights24/12/25 09:42 PM
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🤔 - I have honestly no idea what you are talking about. But Ill take a stab “You aren't my wife, nor the wife of the guy you are arguing with.” - thanks for the reminder-I’ll add that to the gratitude journal. “A woman telling her husband/ fiance "if you are concerned about the possibility of paternity fraud, I would suggest marrying someone else" would be like a man telling a his girlfriend "if you are concerned about the possibility of date rape, I would suggest dating someone else." “ Every c…
/r/MensRights24/12/25 08:07 PM
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Just as an adjunct though- I would also suggest that those who rely solely on a female birth control pill as contraceptive are running the gauntlet.
/r/MensRights23/12/25 09:01 PM
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I tend to agree with you to an extent here. I don’t think its only about phrasing for a female audience, I don’t think many men want to be tarred with the same brush, either The reality is that the situation that the OP described is actually the reality of women/ men using birth control. It is a weighing of pros and cons of different methods, because none are ideal, optimal, easy or preferred. But, its a means to an end. But, coming online and showing absolute disregard for his wife who has take…
/r/MensRights23/12/25 08:59 PM
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Yeah- I know his views are not representative of the vast majority of men on here… hes just an AH.
/r/MensRights22/12/25 10:45 PM
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I have an IUD, which was implanted without pain or discomfort under a general anaesthetic (which I paid the OOPC), after a failed in clinic procedure. So, yes, well aware that thousands of people have the procedure done. If you research you will find that many many people ( like DT) struggle with the insertion of an IUD, this is exacerbated when you have not had a child vaginally. You are an AH, as your preference to not wear a condom on occassion trumps your wifes 24/7 happiness, and results in…
/r/MensRights22/12/25 10:42 PM
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Generally because placing an IUD in clinic to women who have not had children is considered pretty barbaric. Depending on the country, but here it is generally done (after failed attempt) under anaesthetic. Your terms totally disregard the fact that she also had no idea what the impact of IUD’s, or the pill had on her body, as that had previously been your domain. Now- I am NOT saying that women shouldn’t be taking responsibility for their reproductive choices. 100 percent - it is pertinent for …
/r/MensRights22/12/25 09:34 PM
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Likewise, its not her fault that you prefer not to wear condoms? Because all of it falls onto her. The two extremely painful IUD insertions, and now a pill thats makes her not be able to leave the house, not want sex and requires the use of drugs to stabilise her mood, because of your “preference”. Hardly anyone’s preference is to use condoms- man or woman- but we do that or use other forms of protection. All of the downside is on her. Mind you, from your attitude towards women (actually- your w…
/r/MensRights22/12/25 08:53 PM
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I’m sorry? What in the hell is this? You would prefer your wife to take a pill, that makes her depressed and anxious, requiring the use of anti depressants and anti-anxiety drugs which impact greatly on her libido and ability to leave the house, so that you don’t have to use a condom? You are the AH. Another question did they attempt the IUD in a doctors office or under general?
/r/MensRights22/12/25 08:30 PM
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Well there is truth in this… most societal /media focus is on the “big bad” stranger and unknown perpetrator who SA’s women on the street. This is often media hype- sure it happens, but its far less likely to happen at the hands of strangers in deep dark alleys. Instead its by the people you know and love, family members, friends, dates, friends of friends, colleagues etc. Can’t imagine why women would translate that fear onto strangers too ?
/r/MensRights22/12/25 07:46 PM
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No gender should get the seat as a priority. Elderly, disability, injured, kids, people who want it more… I don’t know… I haven’t been able to sit on busy PT since I watched the lice crawl down the back onto the seat of a homeless lady- sure I felt bad for her- but no thanks to fabric seats…
/r/MensRights22/12/25 07:52 AM
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Yeah i can totally see both perspectives. I think because of the random and very different subs I delve into I need a bit of anonymity past anonymity- don’t really need to be posting in a career section whilst they can simultaneously see about swinger party dynamics or how to clean something off of a tshirt. Sheesh- Id hate for someone to know I can’t clean a tshirt -the shame…. ;-) Totally see your side too.
/r/MensRights22/12/25 06:37 AM
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This felt a little like an flag to a bull- cause all I wanted to do was stalk your comment history after that. Before I bitch slapped myself. Saying that, whilst I have certainly looked at peoples comment history before- its not always for nefarious purpose. Sometimes its more of a pattern recognition profile , or context for understanding not necessarily for weaponisation. If it concerns you - could you not consider shutting down access to the history ?
/r/MensRights21/12/25 11:25 PM
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I agree that he absolutely softens his advice for women, or not only women but to also accomodate for men who seek a return to older more traditional values, or many other iterations. I believe that all people/genders and skills are invaluable for proper (continued) functioning of society and moreso that your contention that modern civilisation will fall apart without women to be biased at best.
/r/MensRights21/12/25 10:24 PM
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Yeah you are right - they probably wouldnt- I wouldnt know because I don’t spend time on them. I’m not sure what you are projecting at this point. I asked for context the context was given. Plenty of people / men and women have commented on context, or commented on the context in which is was framed - which is intentional. If it doesnt matter to u - cool. I havent called anyone a name. If someone asking for context for some “All Men” comments leads to people clutching their pearls and wanting to…
/r/MensRights20/12/25 07:59 AM
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Oddly, the women who aren’t jumping up and down and expecting people to solve their problems are the feminists. Having a vagina doesn’t mean that you dont face these issues alone.
/r/MensRights20/12/25 07:50 AM
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I mean baiting out admissions isnt a great strategy. Apparently its “whatabouterism” which we are are meant to avoid, otherwise we could bait the premise about men leaving women when they get unwell. Which wouldn’t support it either.
/r/MensRights20/12/25 07:47 AM
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This “when a women rejects a man he needs to accept and move on… “ has been mentioned a few times by you. Is that not what people do? If someone doesnt want us, no matter what we do we have to move on … this isnt a male/ female thing…
/r/MensRights20/12/25 07:44 AM
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I’m sorry to hear that. I hope you have some other people in your world to support and fortify you.
/r/MensRights20/12/25 07:41 AM
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About mens rights yes. I asked for the context about 3 comments in, he gave it ( talking to a friend about the perils of dating). We are now 160 + messages in . I didn’t ask for a transcript or closed captioning. The photo was framed as a discussion with an incidiary poke. If it was only about his opinion - that part wasn’t necessary. My comments past that point were that context is important. Many others asked about context too. As critical thinkers in the world we should consider be looking at…
/r/MensRights20/12/25 07:30 AM
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As mentioned the “its BS” was in reference to no one ever cries about men. Many of the issues job loss, car break down, not being able to pay rent are human issues that every adult needs to face. Now I understand that this is a mens rights page - and many of the people in here are here because they have been hurt. It doesn’t invalidate OP’s opinion- but it doesnt make it a universal truth.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 10:53 PM
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I’m sorry that happened for your son - it sounds like you are a great dad who worked hard to change some of that messaging.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 07:49 PM
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Emotions lead to rationalizations can be true , which is why understanding them matters. Not learning emotions doesn’t remove them; it just guarantees they’ll show up as anger, resentment, and grand theories about civilization collapsing. That’s not reason, that’s unexamined emotion with a narrative. What are you saying “no” to?
/r/MensRights19/12/25 07:47 PM
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I hear what you are saying- we are all a mishmash of our lives experiences, and the things and attitudes that shape us. I see that these things are changing in the younger generations where there is less pressure to hold things in- and as an older person- I am happy to be pulled up on stuff - because sometimes its not intentional, but the impact is still there. I know that change can happen, I’ve watched it, and it is frustrating and slow - but we need to actively seek and intentionally do it to…
/r/MensRights19/12/25 07:30 PM
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Cool. Ive been trying to find further information on it online to become more informed as it hasnt been something that I have seen raised here before. So far there doesnt appear to be any studies or policies that back that assertion up, instead so far they only acknowledge a difference in health seeking uptake.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 12:19 PM
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I 100 percent agree that the rape laws in the UK need to be changed to acknowledge and recognise that females can rape men (through the act of VOP) penetration. However, even without this amendment men and boys can still be raped by women, men and gender diverse people- as the the law relates to penetration which is not limited to penises ( instead any non consensual penetration fulfils this requirement).
/r/MensRights19/12/25 12:12 PM
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The “its just BS” was referring to that no one ever cries for men, except for a funeral. The issue that you raise is an important one. Care to share further information?
/r/MensRights19/12/25 11:44 AM
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I do have good people. I appreciate them everyday.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 11:21 AM
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I will acknowledge that- it was poor form. Thank you for pulling me up on that. OP I am sorry for stating it like that- it was not the intention- but upon reflection - i acknowledge that it comes across as victim blaming.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 11:18 AM
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I have not attacked you- I have validated the OP’s opinion. All i have stated is that my experience is different, and asked for the context of the statement. I do actually advocate for many mens rights - both online - but moreso in real life. However, no argument, concept or right is furthered without conversation, without critical thinking, without context, and without engaging in conversation with people who may not share the same opinion as us. To do so, and to hide in reddit echo chambers, i…
/r/MensRights19/12/25 11:15 AM
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Far from the truth. But you do you.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 11:00 AM
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“Doth protest too much” - does context never matter to u - or just in this post? I’m not sure why you are fighting the context so hard. But your words- your choice . No imposter here.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 09:59 AM
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Gosh… is that not yet another request for “context” ? Quelle suprise (and yes- I acknowledge I am being a dick and not letting shit go- but life exists in context;-)
/r/MensRights19/12/25 09:45 AM
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This is also a bullshit comment
/r/MensRights19/12/25 09:42 AM
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There is no gaslighting here. I have acknowledged that OP’s opinion is valid. People can have different experiences in the world. Having a different opinion /experience / outlook to the Op does not invalidate it. As i have said, I choose to have people around me who give a shit about others. If u dont. i’m sorry- and I hope that you can find that. If you dont want that- cool- but then talking about how no one cares is an opinion and not a universal truth.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 09:36 AM
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It is a hard journey (I am not trying to deny that at all) but it can be done- and it does require a very different way of interacting, and vulnerability/ pretty much everything men have historically (and socially) been taught not to be/do. But i have noticed its almost like full breath out relief… when u realise that you can be more open about shit, and they can, its like the unfurling of the layers of an onion. We dont always grow up in families who support this, or friendship groups that supp…
/r/MensRights19/12/25 09:24 AM
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She uses irony to promote a message- how do you view this?
/r/MensRights19/12/25 08:56 AM
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Woman ? Man? - its best to not have diversity of ideas. I mean - sure - discussion about issues is irrelevant- and echo chamber is so much better…
/r/MensRights19/12/25 08:33 AM
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I have responded to the content in other parts. This part was about the context.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 08:22 AM
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Ha. Cool. Maybe the same assertions then. People want context for many a reason- I’m guessing that we will never agree on that- I’m not hankering for the same fight you seem to be. Since you are asking about context - and musicians- i suggest you take a listen of Tim Minchin and his song Context- cause its important. But you know- have your feels…
/r/MensRights19/12/25 08:05 AM
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Ummm. As i said your opinion is valid. The context of anything is important. If critical consideration is not something that floats your boat- cool. I have also read pretty much exactly this comment verbatim on a previous post (but in a different framing), so - not sure if it is a legit post or a copy paste.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 07:46 AM
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I find these takes super frustrating because some of them are literally adult problems- money issues, car issues, job losses- all adults have to figure this shit out. I hear people saying that women discount their feelings and make them feel shitter. But the comment section on so many reels/ posts/ newstories often suggest that it is men discounting the feelings of fellow men. Arkansas punter cries - men say man up, even on this post - man up, male child abuse case with “attractive” teacher “luc…
/r/MensRights19/12/25 07:43 AM
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I’m not sure, I live in the same world and try to surround myself with people who do care about others- and likewise I care about them. These are the relationships I like to curate in my world. In fact I am far more likely to cry with and for men, because I acknowledge that it can be harder for them to open up. But these are parts of the things that we have some control over, its infinitely slow, but fucking important.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 06:44 AM
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Well the context isnt already there in entirity - hence the question. I have also previously read this comment pretty much word for word in here, so the context is important. Your opinion is exactly that, an opinion- and thats okay- but not necessarily a universal truth. Then the context is irrelevant- as your opinion in a monologue was the relevant part.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 06:33 AM
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Which is just BS. People cry for men, with men and do listen to their problems. I’m sorry that you don’t feel that you have been heard in this way.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 06:06 AM
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Yeah. He has said it is a close friend. Comments like these need context. They may have been talking about a specific incident, or directly to the OP, should they generalise (probably not). We don’t know if the comment was as a joke or serious, for all we know he may have said he wants his potential partner to put him in an adult diaper (and yes- I’m pushing the point here). But yes in life context is important.
/r/MensRights19/12/25 06:00 AM
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Is this to a partner? Or to a dating app hook up ? Context is everything…
/r/MensRights19/12/25 05:08 AM
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I agree that these statistics are absolutely a falsehood as represented in this article. I don’t think that a respectful relationship module is out of place in school, and early intervention is important to address all forms of adolescent and dating violence (male and female alike). School can be (but does depend on dynamica) a good space to do it in, as greater knowledge on what consitutes violence and empowering upstanding against shitty behaviour is important. However the vast number of peopl…
/r/MensRights19/12/25 04:43 AM
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Yeah- I can see how that plays out in higher income families - with bigger asset bases - as advantageous- but realistically there would be a larger amount of people (when looking at average wages etc) the “benefit” of favorable asset division/ spousal support may not be super substantial, thus the incentive is far less, as there is just a far lower pool to drag funds from, so then the financial incentive is not necessarily there. I know that the long term “trad” set ups are moreso based on highe…
/r/MensRights18/12/25 08:55 PM
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I’m interested in the reasons - and I agree with your assertion of all or none. But - what is the rationale for why not to have women on the battlefield?
/r/MensRights18/12/25 07:24 PM
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I think there are benefits in long term security too. I know that SAHP can work for some, or for a period of time, to benefit young children- but using it as a long term model seems (to me) unwise- saying that, I also prefer to stay out of others decisions - especially when the rose coloured glasses are firmly in place. When you say incentivised , how so ?
/r/MensRights18/12/25 07:15 PM
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Generally yes. I have been kicked out of many a page for doing so. I am quite contrary, but also I don’t attend to every point, and will generally call out what I disagree with- or align with. Do you comment on every discussion ? Who are you wanting me to call out ?
/r/MensRights18/12/25 05:24 AM
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Honestly- I think that issues need to be discussed critically, and discussion about all factors are important. Your initial post literally pointed out both sides?
/r/MensRights18/12/25 05:15 AM
1

Oh, you changed your response. People like me? How do you know what I say to women? I don’t think all men are bad, i think the vast majority are good. I don’t necessarily disagree with your comment about people pandering to women- I see it irl with friends with fixed gender roles, women who have never filled a tank of fuel, or emptied a rubbish bin. But, in the particulars of my interactions with that stuff (meh… not my circus not my monkeys). I see incredibly poor framing of both crimes against…
/r/MensRights18/12/25 05:04 AM
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Many on this reddit would argue differently, and statistically men are more likely to be the victims of crime so their level of preparedness seems to not be the most relevant part. As for women, if we are talking about violence against women (sexual or physical assault) many of these factors are also not overly helpful- as most “perpetrators” are people that they know, rather than the scary stranger. Sometimes, we can be prepared, and still be victims. Because some people are arseholes.
/r/MensRights17/12/25 08:39 PM
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Interesting take. I’ve just said that none of the responses you have given are any different to the advice that would/should be given to men. Do you disagree?
/r/MensRights17/12/25 05:49 PM
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I’m trying to understand the female baseline here- are you suggesting that women are defined by motherhood? (And there decision to either accept or reject it?)
/r/MensRights17/12/25 02:25 PM
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Yeah. Its absolutely fucked.
/r/MensRights17/12/25 02:16 PM
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Yeah cool. You are right. Some people (men and women) dont take accountability for their actions. We shouldn’t reflect on how societal attitudes and the bullshit of gender norms impact on men both negatively and positively.
/r/MensRights17/12/25 01:53 PM
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I can see what you are saying- but i disagree with you. Its more than sexual promiscuity, the “husband” stitch is post birth - which is often an unavoidable ( and inaccurate) trope about relative tightness etc. Additionally , the exterior presentation of female genitalia also gets judgement whether the labia majora is the outer layer, or if the labia minora is more prominent. One presentation is far more prominent in porn and mainstream forums than the other. Realistically, both are not super vi…
/r/MensRights17/12/25 11:44 AM
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On the flip- you could look at “boys being boys” or “men being players - and girls being sluts as people not having to take accountability for their actions ?
/r/MensRights17/12/25 10:51 AM
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I would likely do the same (or suggest to children) to find a family or similiar if they were uncomfortable from a stranger in a place- again it doesnt need to be gendered ? When I was a kid it was go to the police (but thats hardly realistic for everyday). The self defence wouldnt be gendered surely ? Aren’t they skills for anyone ? To my mind - and where I live guns aren’t really considered a solution- more of an issue, and likely to increase the chances of incidents occuring..
/r/MensRights17/12/25 10:37 AM
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Its not really a fair comparison though, I mean I would probably compare a penis for vagina in this circumstance ? There can also be a lot of derogatory remarks being made about the “relative” size or tightness of female genitalia too. To the extent of the once commonplace post birth “husband” stitch (i think it would be fairly met with outrage now). But it similarily posits male/female genitalia as something to please the other. Realistically people have what they have. I know that there may be…
/r/MensRights17/12/25 03:20 AM
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I would tend to agree. Do you have a study you are referring to? I also wonder about the definition of misandry in this context?$ is it the hatred of men/ contempt for) etc). I sometimes see on hear and on feminist pages very poorly worded comment of all men, or men are… similiar to all women or women are- presuming the collective. Which is often not the true case of the situation , and whilst the use of “nuance” is sometimes downvoted- I do believe its important in this and many contexts. But a…
/r/MensRights17/12/25 01:08 AM
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“Even in discussion's where you as a man speak of ways that women can protect themselves from harm, you still get trash talked by them. “ I’m curious about this - what type of things are you talking about ? General harm /health advice? - Eat a diet full of healthy non processed foods - exercise for heart &mental health ? - avoid excessive use of drugs and/or alcohol to reduce cancer risk - wear seatbelts and drive responsibly - slip, slop, slap (sunscreen safety) - dont go to certain locations a…
/r/MensRights16/12/25 10:09 PM
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Oh hardly. Men are awesome and valuable and I am Sorry that is not your experience
/r/MensRights15/12/25 08:00 AM
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I know/hope that your comment was tongue in cheek… but everyone is valuable ( well I’m sure there might be a short list somewhere of cunts). I’m also laughing from an individual level… cause my partner is older, and doesn’t financially contribute- but fuck - hes awesome, my safe space and intrinsically valuable. And to objectify him- I’d at least spend money for hip replacement surgery and to preserve his digital dexterity ? 😇
/r/MensRights15/12/25 12:29 AM
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I think that there is a truckload to be concerned about in the online world, from algorithms and AI to scammers and well… pretty much everything… I’m starting to size myself up for a tin foil hat and a bunker with some of the stuff out there… I mean, I could just get off the internet… hmmm…. Well, off I go, that bunker isn’t going to dig itself… (And sorry edit for tone- I haven’t slept so am amusing myself now- not meaning to be an AH (in response to this post- others 🤷).
/r/MensRights14/12/25 09:28 PM
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I mean it is, but it is essentially only that, a shitty business model… rather than a female way to shaft men. I can’t really blame 7/11 for dragging me in to spend more $$$ when i had only intended to purchase the loss leading slurpee. I mean I can blame them… fool me once, but after the 689 time… i may need to take “some” accountability.
/r/MensRights14/12/25 08:48 PM
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I think the statistics would suggest differently, and the paid person is also more likely to be a woman.
/r/MensRights14/12/25 08:22 PM
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Why’s that ?
/r/MensRights14/12/25 08:18 PM
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Oh, they do… although, I’ve met some who could benefit from that assistance earlier (but I am sure thats women too). Statistically, they will die a few years younger, but they are more likely to be cared for by women, and have greater need for medical services in later yers.
/r/MensRights14/12/25 07:12 PM
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And one day them kids will be paying for the medical systems and social programs that will wiping yours and my arse. Circle of life…
/r/MensRights14/12/25 07:07 PM
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Yeah - I think I’m too old for this. I mean we make choices don’t we ? Follow, then unfollow. I tried to be careful about linking dating app stuff to social media stuff until I actually make a connection. Damn, I’m not even F/B friends with my partner of many years… yeah, too old 😂 People want to talk to people off the apps for various reasons, if its to garner a follow - meh? I’d prefer that to the people wanting to jump onto snap to show me their naked bits - thats what red hot pie is for.
/r/MensRights14/12/25 07:02 PM
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Burden - meaning a heavy load. Parenting is a heavy load. If we are doing it properly, and working hard to create fully functioning adults in the world. I work with people- and that also has feelings and emotions and life critical factors- and is also necessarily an emotional burden. I’m a realist- saying something is a heavy load (which is why I defined it ) doesn’t mean its a bad one, doesn’t mean its regretful, doesn’t mean that it is not rewarding. Just that it is a lot. If you don’t think t…
/r/MensRights14/12/25 06:11 PM
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Nah. Not my insecurities. I work I parent - meh. A burden- (defined as “a heavy load”)- yes- my kids; sometimes they are. They can also be a joy, and many of the in between things. In the context of when I was home with them, paid for - not necessarily, but equivalent in value to a working parent- yes.
/r/MensRights14/12/25 05:59 PM
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Hmmm… not sure about oppressed… but I can’t 100 % say that I didnt bitch about it… but thats kind of human nature isnt it ? Just like how you just likewise got on the internet and bitched about your 50 hour work week - I mean you chose it - didn’t you ?
/r/MensRights14/12/25 05:45 PM
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I’ve done both. I prefer working. Do you feel sorry for my kids ?
/r/MensRights14/12/25 05:27 PM
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100 % correct. This should also have a flow on positive benefit (presumably) to everyone (including men). If woman are able and encouraged to work outside of the homes that is contributing to the family or society as a whole. Giving all people choices rather than sticking to traditional roles, means that you can negotiate with your person a life that suits your shared goals and family needs.
/r/MensRights14/12/25 05:26 PM
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Thanks for the response. Totally acknowledge what you are saying- we are all individuals and different things impact us or resonate with us differently. I guess I ask, because whilst I don’t have a male experience of suicidality or depression- I have had life experiences- and sometimes when I have bottomed out - I have no idea where to start, and the hopelessness is so great that I don’t know how anyone could help. This obviously is expounded when we are isolated.
/r/MensRights13/12/25 06:21 AM
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Australia Domestic Violence Oneinthree.com.au (specific focus on existence and needs of male victims of FDV) Leaving violence program (not a crisis service) - If you are experiencing IPV, and have “recently” (past 12 weeks) needed to leave, or are planning to leave your partner and need financial support (up to $5 k.) Leavingviolenceprogram.org.au / 1800 253 283 Mental health support Lifeline 13 11 14 (there can be considerable waittimes on this) Suicide call back service 1300 659 467 Beyond Now…
/r/MensRights13/12/25 05:20 AM
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Got it . Of course. This impacts you. Oddly, it impacts me too. How much are you paying in child support? Because, I have 100 percent of care for my kids- and my ex is not working. He would be required to pay $7.50 a week. Which just pays for a small load of bread for my coeliac kid. But yeah, nails, hair, blah blah… When he did have 50:50- before he realised that looking after kids has challenges, i paid him child support. There are crappy situations on every side of the coin. I used the term “…
/r/MensRights12/12/25 11:48 PM
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I don’t know - I’m a woman who supports the people in her life? I also try and stand up for the shit that I see to be wrong. Whether that be perpetrated by either gender. We all need to use critical thinking skills in any assessment of a situation. We are all flawed and also a little bias. An example- I can love and support my partner, whilst simultaneously acknowledging (maybe not out loud) that some of his exes complaints were fair. I can also acknowledge that some of my exes complaints are fa…
/r/MensRights12/12/25 09:29 PM
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Single parents do do all of the things, but societal attitudes do judge them differently. I don’t think that complaining or making out like a victim is a gendered construct. Plenty of men in here are doing the same thing- and I am not saying that it is unfair or unjust. People are allowed to voice there opinions.
/r/MensRights12/12/25 06:40 PM
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So, your argument is that the jails are filled to the brim with the offspring of deadbeat fathers?
/r/MensRights12/12/25 06:36 PM
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Is she also happy with the division of labour /mental load? If yes then there is no problem.
/r/MensRights12/12/25 06:32 PM
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I think its important to distinguish chores from mental load though. Chores are just tasks that need to be done. Mental load is the “behind the scenes” work.
/r/MensRights12/12/25 06:31 PM
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I agree that everyone has mental load to some degree. It needs to be distinguished from chores , which can be distributed in whatever way works for your family, by need, by preference or desire. I think the larger issue is when there isnt negotiation on issues, and one person just accrues more and more of the load (when children are added etc) especially when both parties are working.
/r/MensRights12/12/25 06:28 PM
1

How does this make all the difference in the world that women watch porn?
/r/MensRights12/12/25 06:14 PM
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Much of the male birth control outside of condoms and vasectomy is still in the trial phases- its looking to be within the next few years. There are pills, and injectables (called ADAM) on the horizon.
/r/MensRights12/12/25 05:13 PM
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Congratulations. Enjoy your well deserved time and make some core memories with your kid! Remember to also take some time in your downtime to rest and start to recover some from the process- once the adrenaline fades the exhaustion can hit, so surround yourself with your people and don’t hesitate in reaching out for support
/r/MensRights12/12/25 05:01 PM
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100 % - the comparisons can’t really be made well, but the differences between men and women’s contribution when you take in a lot of different factors, doesn’t necessarily wash. There are plenty of intangible costs, factors and benefits that people bring and contribute to society- and even though I have demonstrated a basic financial breakdown- breaking down people in relation to their “contribution” is often crass. Prison doesn’t benefit really anyone- but from a pure financial perspective - i…
/r/MensRights12/12/25 04:31 PM
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Oh… ok, are we adding those. Okay, womena are more likely to receive an aged pension, in March 2025, 1. 47 million women recieved one, and 1.18 men received one, more women also received a carers pension (for caring for their husbands) . For a couple, they are making the sum total of $46.2 k a year. Of the people over 65 ( 58 % of women recieve a pension and 53-% of men. None of this is surprising given the substantial tax benefits of the ‘main income’ earners. Women have a greater health cost o…
/r/MensRights12/12/25 10:41 AM
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I can see what you are trying to say, and i do know of people who have had modifications of this through arrangement /agreement. Ie. Where the “working” party , drops the kids off for the “at home” parent when they go to work, or they care for children after school etc, so the the “working” parent can work unencumbered by parenting reaponsibilities / even moreso when one parent travels or works away. There are many downsides to this approach though a. This requires a decent relationship between …
/r/MensRights12/12/25 12:15 AM
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Hmmm. Interesting. Yeah- can’t agree with this. But I believe that everyone should be cared for in a society. (I say this as the main provider (f) who doesn’t rely on any government benefits and has enough in super/401k- to not be eligible for pensions etc). In Australia Welfare payments are divided like this (f/n payments) 38% unemployment (55% men: 45% women) 28 % disability ( 55 % men: 45% women) 16% parenting payments (90% women, 10% men) 11% carer payment (72 % women, 28 % men) 7.2 % studen…
/r/MensRights11/12/25 11:58 PM
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It may work for a small minority of people who pragmatically decide to go ahead with this idea - who are probably already decent communicators who came to a mutual decision to seperate, or don’t have much diaharmony. But for the large part, no. Alimony is not a big thing in Australia, but I understand it is moreso in the US. I don’t agree with never ending spousal support (although maybe in very narrow windows) but I think in some relationships there can be the requirement for it. These things a…
/r/MensRights11/12/25 11:18 PM
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I don’t necessarily think the the 2, swinging and feminism go hand in hand… but, probably without the latter the first wouldnt have been such an option. Swinging puts pressure on relationships- you have to have a pretty secure relationship / attachment for it to work between two people, or alternatively a relationship that means little, and you are happy for it to be disposable if need be. Even with a secure attachment, shit goes down. If I “hypothetically” knew more about the lifestyle- I could…
/r/MensRights11/12/25 10:35 PM
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In what ways is it impacting your mental health ? - through social media - through intimate partner (Etc etc) - what mechanisms is it infiltrating your life through ? As for therapy, agree with other poster. The right therapist may be difficult to find, perhaps seek some ideas or recommendations from a local page, or some groups offer supports online too. It can take a lot of trial and error to find the right person to support your needs. If you drop a region someone may be able to give you some…
/r/MensRights11/12/25 07:43 PM
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Yeah - good points. I think curating who is around us and the impact they can have on us is important. Toxic people can drain the oxygen out of any space, and really impact us. Yeah- the right psychologist is a hard find- I think its hard going when people use it as a throwaway when a lot just give lip service, or u feel No connection or worse still judged by them. I have had some success over the years though (trialling a whole lot of people), some have been harmful, some not helpful, some good…
/r/MensRights11/12/25 06:56 PM
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I agree. I think we can focus on the issues facing men with men as the focal point. What kind of reforms are you wanting in divorce courts? I agree, men make great educators and offer diverse perspectives, healthy role models for children. What is the current situation with men in education where you live ? Are they actively trying to engage men to join the education ranks? What do you think they could do better ? *edited to add- for example , In Australia, the rates are approx 2-4% in Early Chi…
/r/MensRights11/12/25 06:43 PM
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Yeah, I think the work thing is going pretty to be a challenge in every field for every person- some companies/industries have better feedback/ reporting systems. I guess most people (managers) etc are going to be covering themselves. I agree with the social/news media avoidance for the most part (ironic- as I write on reddit) especially if we are struggling with mental health. I was speaking with a mental health speaker who was facilitating a 2day mental health- first aid course- who works in E…
/r/MensRights11/12/25 06:33 PM
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Honest question - Is there not industry based supports within your company? (through HR, or complaints , or governmental watchdogs/workcover/fair work/ unions? ) Do these help to hold the company accountable? Does your media have laws about how information is presented? Can that be something that can be lobbied for ? Have you considered not accessing or blocking elements of social media for mental health protection? Because I totally agree its a shitheap out there, but I think its hard to hold r…
/r/MensRights11/12/25 05:54 PM
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Is this a US thing ? In Australia there isnt any physical boundaries for men to join education? They receive the same government university incentives, have good employment rates and often rise into leadership in higher levels than their % participation in the workplace. Men are often well respected as educators by other staff/ students/ parents. I know in Early Education (0-5) there isn’t any physical boundaries, however some higher profile SA recent cases ( in my state) have probably resulted …
/r/MensRights11/12/25 05:44 PM
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I think its important to distinguish between “undateable” and “unfuckable”. But I’m not sure it paints a pretty picture for anyone. If sex is the only metric - then 100% it is easier for women to have sex. As people above have said, it doesn’t matter if she is ugly, bald, fat, has no social skills, broke, obnoxious, it seems that men are still prepared to have sex with them. I’m not sure thats a great flex. A living, breathing blow up doll? But, would they still be wanting to date this person, s…
/r/MensRights11/12/25 04:46 PM
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Some people may find being at home with kids/housework fulfilling, and some may not (man or woman). Some (male or female)may find it fulfilling for a short time or a long time ( or not). Some (male or female) may want to stay home (or not) but are unable to because of financial realities. Lets stop telling people what they are doing is “fulfilling” , and let individuals and families decide what works for them, and what is fulfilling to them.
/r/MensRights11/12/25 02:55 PM
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Mothers worry about their sons and their dating lives and all kinds of elements of their lives, just like dads do of their daughters . It is very hard to impose yourself in the “position” of the other, and therefore you can only give perspectives or platitudes rather than real life experiences. I’m not sure why you don’t feel like this is a part of your role too. I think that we all do our best, and of there are questions or topics you struggle with, then ask people to assist- or to spread their…
/r/MensRights11/12/25 12:00 PM
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Genuine question- I have read on this thread that listening helps, and another says that they want solutions. So what is helpful? If you have been in this situation - what does help? What positive actions can a friend / family member or internet random do to support you specifically ? I think that there is a lot of people who avoid it not because they don’t care , but because they don’t know how?
/r/MensRights11/12/25 08:40 AM
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If you are asking me - It depends on the circumstances of the sex, doesn’t it ? In my mind, depending on the person and the circumstances the nature of it might change. In the article he states that you wont get sex if you dont pay for dinner whilst dating - that sounds transactional? If you are hooking up with someone from RHP or at a swingers/sex club the transactional nature may be implied mutual enjoyment. Mutual Pleasure for sex If you are hooking up with someone for the purposes of payment…
/r/MensRights11/12/25 04:49 AM
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I can see context of the bigger picture too. But, really, if it were true “bigger” picture- it would be that he won’t get a gf/relationship without signaling resources. The focus on sex is where it becomes transactional (that and the actual quote).
/r/MensRights10/12/25 12:39 AM
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The downside of the traditional SAHP is that you are fully financially reliable on the other person. So, if they decide for whatever reason to leave, you are at a greater disadvantage. Thats part of the reason why people advocate for women to get educated and build careers, so they dont get “stuck in these situations.” Without more context it is a problem. She said that she has been a SAMP for 10+ years, so clearly this was a situation where the provider-housewife roles were well entrenched. Peo…
/r/MensRights09/12/25 11:01 PM
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Its been a few years since I was too, and likewise in my 40’s… Many men just wanted to come over 🙄, but failing that I was happy to go half (and often established it beforehand) sometimes they may insist on paying. But also, can we not also just normalise not having a big first effort date, and establishing the “go have a coffee or a drink. We should be connecting with people and getting to know them, and of we go out and its not what we thought, then no great loss. If its going well, then we ca…
/r/MensRights09/12/25 10:53 PM
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I am a female. I have dated a couple of females where we have split costs but women are not my primary preference. I earn 4-5 x more than my (living seperately) partner, and support the entire cost of my 3 children (24/7) in the home that I own. My only preference for a person was that they are kind, decent humans, with shared values, and accept the fact that I am busy and have a life outside of the relationship. I have a house and workplace full of young people and adults who work and earn and …
/r/MensRights09/12/25 09:28 PM
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Yeah, most of them do ?
/r/MensRights09/12/25 08:43 PM
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I’m in my 40’s, and many of the women I know earn far more ( or equal) to their husbands, and have a bunch of incredible, kind, masculine men, who are great husbands and fathers ( not perfect - cause we are all flawed) of all kinds of levels of attractiveness, and with all kinds of skillsets. I think we just need to get off the internet.
/r/MensRights09/12/25 08:42 PM
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Oddly, from what I have started to notice from many females, is that as they have had growing capacity to work and make their own money, this requirement is less so. But then, they may still be seeking someone on a similar level to them financially.
/r/MensRights09/12/25 08:37 PM
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I’m not saying that there isnt people who have these beliefs, but I wouldn’t say its the majority of women who only value money. If the woman only values you for your financial contribution - then dodge that bullet.
/r/MensRights09/12/25 08:28 PM
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But it is different - because the assumption above is that paying for dinner = sex. So its transactional. How is your scenario transactional?
/r/MensRights09/12/25 08:25 PM
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100 %. The narrative is fucked on either side. Realistically many women want to pay half anyway, because they don’t want to be creating an expectation, which his narrative promotes. Its such bullshit trope, and totally pits men vs women and women vs men. If people started communicating, you know, like people, this stuff would be easier.
/r/MensRights09/12/25 08:23 PM
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Or women as prostitutes who will open their legs for the cost of a meal
/r/MensRights09/12/25 08:17 PM
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I’m not entirely sure what the point of the post is ? I mean it is one of the downsides of being a SAHP. It’s one of the reasons why people criticise the traditional style relationships, because there is disadvantages for both parties (and advantages too). But when/if the relationship ends, the person who has not been working is in a vulnerable position, especially if they have been out of work for a long time. I’m not fussed about the details of this person and their relationship- its kind of i…
/r/MensRights09/12/25 08:04 PM
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Wow. Thank you for sharing your experience. Again, I’m sorry that you went through that, and continue to face the consequences. It still blows my mind how popular the procedure is there, and how the American Medical Association hasn’t renounced it.
/r/MensRights08/12/25 08:16 PM
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Nope. Allegedly 87 % of SA is not reported. Men, women and Lgbtiqa+ people. So of the small amounts to reported crime, only another small portion of that is reported to police (some goes to healthcare or specialist services but not police files). Rape (like false accusations) is incredibly difficult to prove, is surrounded by many myths etc, and often comes down to a they said/ they said scenario. Combine this with police attitudes, societal attitudes and generalist support services being under …
/r/MensRights08/12/25 11:56 AM
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Not sure that i follow exactly what you are saying.
/r/MensRights08/12/25 08:34 AM
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I’m not denying biological innate differences, but that doesnt necessarily allow for individual differences. Like yes, are men as a baseline stronger then women, yes. But are there some women who are stronger than many men, yes. Because they work on these skills to a greater degree than maybe an average office worker.
/r/MensRights08/12/25 12:45 AM
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I’m so incredibly sorry that this happened to you, and the impact that it has had on your life. Especially having what it could be “mirrored” back at you through partners and lovers. I think talking about these things is important generally to friends and other fathers in groups like this (or potentially wider spread.) I’m sorry that your parents made this decision for you. Did your mother make this decision for you ? I am wondering why she receives the vitriol - were both of your parents around…
/r/MensRights07/12/25 02:35 AM
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I’m not sure how i disagreed with everyone elses points • ⁠✅ - to big pharma - thats an issue • ⁠✅- acknowledging the issue of it only being men. • ⁠✅- issues with ssri’s. • ⁠Oh… yeah, I forgot to add the women blaming/ minimisation of DV. Oh well, can’t agree on everything. And yeah- the link to DV made the headline (as I said thats why I don’t like media bias, and suggest that people read a study. However, there was also no improvement in non DV Violence stats. I have theories on this too, but…
/r/MensRights07/12/25 12:14 AM
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Yeah- the side effects of ssri’s can be pretty full on, and so dependent on individuals. Whether its increased violence, suicidality, impact of libido- thats why they need to be so carefully monitored, for some people they make a vast difference, and others cause different negative associations.
/r/MensRights06/12/25 09:45 PM
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So when you went to read the study, and you read all of the details that is what you found ? Got it- or when you read the quotes from an article which has media bias written in a mens rights group with bias rather than the study. The study focused on all violent crime types not just domestic crime. I havent said that it is right that the study has only been tested on men (so far) - although for pragmatic considerations - that may be fair. I haven’t said that there isn’t big pharmaceutical backin…
/r/MensRights06/12/25 09:12 PM
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And what was the idea oh wise sir ?
/r/MensRights06/12/25 08:23 PM
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Well yeah, hook up culture is likely part of the problem. Between the ons and situationships and fwbs, its very easy to not have to build real relationships with people.
/r/MensRights06/12/25 06:15 PM
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Genuine question - Do you not have free public spaces ? Shopping malls? Where are you living that doesnt have parks, train stations and malls?
/r/MensRights06/12/25 06:11 PM
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I mean realistically putting anyone on a pedestal is a poor decision. Men or women. Everyone is flawed. No one should be going into relationships/marriages without intentionality or blinkers firmly planted. However, too much engagement with social media and all of this content doesn’t help.
/r/MensRights06/12/25 06:07 PM
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i know this is a mens rights page- but this response attempts to remove gender- and discuss issues with the actual study * I agree that there are a number of ethical issues with this study. It was primarily conducted with people engaging with community corrections post violent crime. There is also more than a few gaps within the trial data. The data shows that there is no significant difference in general violent offending between the placebo and ssri group (so non DV crimes), and a small but si…
/r/MensRights06/12/25 05:57 PM
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I think as a woman, as I also am, its our responsibility to stay out of telling men about how they need to feel about or experience their penises. There is a mixed bag in here, some are unfussed, some are moderately fussed and some have been severely impacted and all of their opinions and feelings about it are valid. It doesn’t matter whether it is an area you study in, sometimes we need to stay in our lane, and see that the question was, “how has it impacted your life?”
/r/MensRights06/12/25 12:43 PM
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Whilst we can recognise that sexual experience for each person is different in relation to sensitivity, sensation and perception. I am also not planning on telling any individual that their experience is not relevant- because studies show it to be so. So much of sexual stimulation also occurs within the connections to our brain, thus, how a man perceives it to be is also connected to his experiences.
/r/MensRights06/12/25 12:30 PM
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Realistically this case will be decided on whether or not it can be established that he was a “guide” and therefore owing a duty of care. If you read further, it is not anyones’ family pushing for it to be investigated- instead, the circumstances triggered an investigation. There is clear poor decision making involved, from the outset of the trip ( from the information available). I don’t mountain climb, but from what i have read over the years, life and death is hinged on knowing when to stop- …
/r/MensRights06/12/25 11:37 AM
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Totally agree with you, I’m a Millennial (just) but most of my friends male and female have positive, repectful and intentional marriages. This RP, BP shit- loves to emphasise problems /solutions rhat arent a reality.
/r/MensRights06/12/25 07:55 AM
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There is further information on this scenario online- where the guide fails to find a spot sheltered from the wind, doesnt wrap her in aluminium heat blankets to reduce heat loss. There had been a police chopper overhead that hadnt been alerted, and the police had been calling them continually, and finally got through @ 12.35 am, at which point he turned his phone on silent and ignored a number of calls, before finally putting out a distress call @ 3.30am. The conditions were shit, they were was…
/r/MensRights06/12/25 07:32 AM
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Maybe because they can see the duality of people? I cannot pretend that all women are good, just as I cannot pretend that all men are good. There are crappy examples of both. It doesn’t mean that when a woman is complaining about an element of a man that she finds annoying, that I can’t support her or empathise (especially if i have noticed the same thing) and likewise when men complain about women, they are not perfect and can do bad things. I don’t feel personnally aggreieved when men call out…
/r/MensRights05/12/25 10:42 PM
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Ok. You are welcome to make those choices !
/r/MensRights05/12/25 10:30 PM
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Honestly, I think that the things that you have mentioned are human things. But, where I say adapt or evolve, its not meant to be a loaded shitty statement (which i understand it sounds like) it more, we have to change how we frame things to make it ok. I exercise because it helps me to feel strong, stay stretchy, hurt less and helps with my mental health. I don’t do it for men, I do it for me. I study or work to further my career to meet my financial requirements, so that I can pay my bills, su…
/r/MensRights05/12/25 10:18 PM
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It’s only a small percentage of women on OF sites also. I’m not fussed by people doing it, or buying it (although, there is porn out there for free so 🤷‍♀️- and I am judging their economic decision- not their moral position). OF or sex work is at least open about its intention - transactional sex. In this economy ??? Someone was saying on a post yesterday that men can’t make money this way. Which is bs. There is a market for it. Online dating seems to be a shit show from both sides. There are ge…
/r/MensRights05/12/25 09:59 PM
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Women are also looking for real relationships. Some are looking for transactional relationships but most are not. Likewise for the women, if this is all that is on offer - Ill take my friends and career and be alone. Which ends up as null and void- and people complaining about being single. That’s what I mean about adapting and evolving- we either sit around and complain about the reality and the good, or we adapt and evolve.
/r/MensRights05/12/25 09:04 PM
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👏… the internet, how we interact with it, how it manipulates us, how it uses algorithms to divide us, and how people feel ok about saying the most unhinged shit, which would never be muttered out loud in person.
/r/MensRights05/12/25 08:52 PM
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I really enjoyed reading what you wrote, and found myself nodding along to some, 🤨 to some, but moreso enjoying the intentionality to creating a union with someone that interlinks notions of pragmatism and idealism. Whilst anecdotal, I would say that my friends who seem to have the best relationships/marriages also relied on this type of intentionality and communication (or committment to keep giving it a go), no matter the on the grounds logisitics of how the relationship occurs. I’m going to a…
/r/MensRights05/12/25 01:39 PM
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You have inferred a lot from my comment. I do feel like this is part of the problem though, if you are seeking a merely transactional process of man pay, woman fuck- yeah… I mean perhaps build a more equitable relationship where you can value and appreciate someones personality and nature ? I mean, I actually enjoy the company of the men I date, odd concept…
/r/MensRights05/12/25 01:04 PM
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Who is paying for it ?
/r/MensRights05/12/25 12:57 PM
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Agree its not rape. But honestly, agree on every one of her other parts. DT is a loser, and he should be called on every one of his pathetic actions. The fact that we are even talking about her words when he is saying hateful and deluded shit everyday. Meh…
/r/MensRights05/12/25 12:04 PM
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And men seem to be the reason women are giving up. I didn’t hear any pennies dropping… may have been the sound of the velcro on the strap on… adapt and evolve.
/r/MensRights05/12/25 11:38 AM
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I mean this with all respect- because I hadn’t thought deeply about some of these factors- but everyone is a problem in this scenario. Its not men or women its capitalism and greed and we are all prefering convenience and ease. If the world is changing (which it is) then we either have to fight, adapt or change. There is no other option. I can’t both bemoan the fact that when i walk into a store there is no “service” when I along with 6858 other people are ordering vast amounts of stuff online. …
/r/MensRights05/12/25 09:30 AM
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M2F hurtful words I attempted to disclose child SA (8) to my parent, who told me I was overreacting, and making things up, and that person put a lot of time and effort into my training and I should be greatful. They continued to drop me off for training I attempted to disclose same child SA to school principal, who told me he would speak with my parents, and as I got up to leave the room, he stroked my cheek and said, “ you have such beautiful high cheek bones, you could be a model one day.” I d…
/r/MensRights05/12/25 08:54 AM
1

So you decided to share the love by also putting down people with a disability.
/r/MensRights05/12/25 08:34 AM
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I’m sorry that ever happened to you.
/r/MensRights05/12/25 08:20 AM
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Thats an awful, misguided and fucked up thing for someone to say, I’m sorry you ever had to hear those words.
/r/MensRights05/12/25 08:16 AM
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When you say you have been doing a ton - what kinds of things are you referring to ?
/r/MensRights05/12/25 08:01 AM
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So the argument here is that we are waiting for a woman to organise it ?
/r/MensRights05/12/25 08:00 AM
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I’m not sure what the link or the question is here ? Do some women and men use assets as commodities ? Yes. It is a modern society that places value on physical attractiveness, if something is of value it can be used and abused. I would distinguish that from someone being a prosititute- where the pure purpose is transactional. Sex for money. Are you feeling that you have been used for financial purposes?
/r/MensRights05/12/25 07:06 AM
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🙄
/r/MensRights05/12/25 06:18 AM
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Yeah- I found the sources a little nuanced, i took a deep dive when we were discussing it the other day and then had to get back to real life. There is always going to be pros and cons of many studies, hence why a straight read doesn’t always work. I think under-reporting occurs for very many reasons, for all levels of sexual assault crimes. I know the “reported” reasons for men often speak of being perceived as being /feeling demasculated, not believed, feeling like its not “enough” of an issue…
/r/MensRights04/12/25 06:04 AM
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What do you think needs to change for that to happen in that sense? For like more traditional style relationships or ? I’m older- and have a relationship on very different terms - so I am curious.
/r/MensRights04/12/25 02:44 AM
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I dont think that there is any winning or losing, i think that we need to meet in the middle, but I understand that comes from my feminist leanings. But, my beliefs don’t come from the radical extremist nor misandrist viewpoints too. Which is also where I think that the initial “mens right” movement has come from- but that like feminist groups gets infiltrated by angry people just spouting hate.
/r/MensRights04/12/25 01:19 AM
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I’m always happy to discuss (so long as things don’t just become slinging insults and shutdowns) because I think that through learning and listening real things can happen. When you say MRA don’t have that vitriol or men in general don’t - are you refering to the overarching movement, the views in a reddit like this, or the views of the people you hang out with in the real world/life? I don’t entirely think that feeling of being in the “other” space is gendered only to men, it can be a tricky pl…
/r/MensRights04/12/25 01:13 AM
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This may also be entirely a projection of my own thoughts on it, I tend to also blame or denigrate my ex-husbands female partner- because of the fact that she restricts him from seeing the kids, and his family and stuff. I have to remind myself that he is accountable for his actions, and putting his children first. But thats the reality of life and people- thats why I often say things are nuanced- because very little is clearcut.
/r/MensRights04/12/25 12:24 AM
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Interesting thoughts. I view the perspective differently. I think that some/most feminist women (whatever) view the female MRA’s more harshly, as they see them as traitors against female rights and /or equality. Somewhat akin to how when a male cheats on his wife, the (cheatee) is often judged with equal or more judgement by the women around. They have broken the “girl” code, and failed to meet expectations. Whereas the men have met the “poor” expectation of the type of views/ perspective they w…
/r/MensRights04/12/25 12:21 AM
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From a female perspective, I wouldn’t frame it that way. The female advocates are viewed more harshly by women.
/r/MensRights03/12/25 06:32 PM
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I understand that you’re speaking from your own experience, but the way you’re presenting the history of both movements isn’t really accurate or balanced. Historically, both feminism and men’s rights activism emerged in response to real, documented inequalities: feminism around issues like property rights, voting, education, workplace discrimination, and marital protections; MRAs around issues like paternal rights, sentencing disparities, mental-health awareness, conscription, and support for ma…
/r/MensRights03/12/25 06:30 PM
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Sorry - I do want to come back to this (but will do so later) cause I would like to have a greater in depth conversation about some of the studies you have referenced. I will say that the idea of colleges having there own “justice” system seems bizarre to me. And the reddit post you linked about rape… when you scroll down past the cases (which i will come back to) the attitudes, sexism and denial of rape is a hard read.
/r/MensRights03/12/25 06:05 PM
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The initial prompt was about the stigma of how MRA is framed- many of the “activists” are actually more considered and framed than what you read online from the “everyday voices” you read on these pages. Because If you haven’t read women hatred on these pages then you are blinkered. Whereas many of the MRA Activists (although there is not many listed up there for me to look through), yes, can steer a question or a point to negate women, but generally are more moderate (although i have only watch…
/r/MensRights03/12/25 05:49 PM
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See I would have to disagree with that. Firstly, I would say that I am a feminist, and like many, I also have critical thinking skills- and diversity to be able to see that issues impact all people, sometimes differently and sometimes in the same way. Being one, doesn’t mean that I cannot see and fight for the issues that impact another. Because, at the end of the day they are interlinked. We are all human, and without attempting to understand and see perspective of other people and creating con…
/r/MensRights03/12/25 04:13 PM
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Nah- it doesnt. Just because you believe the extremist framing that gets sprouted on here and in social media - doesnt make it so. Traditional feminist theory doesnt “centre” itself on men- just about getting access to areas that they previously couldn’t. There are plenty of forms of healthy male friendship and community building that doesnt need to be toxic- most people/feminists dont give a shit about that. Connecting as men doesnt = sexist hotbeds- groups like these - they often do. But there…
/r/MensRights03/12/25 10:35 AM
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Yeah interesting . Thank you for clarifying what you meant- i appreciate it. The “feminist” men being hyped up by the women, and the “pick me” being hyped up by the man? (Sorry - i have used derogatory terms for clear definition). Yes, I suppose that is right. The problem is to the other gender - the more “extremist” people are offended by them/ and almost agrieved. There are plenty of people (the vast majority who sit in the middle sections). I think for those who are more attached to their ide…
/r/MensRights03/12/25 10:27 AM
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Been a long day- and not following along super well.
/r/MensRights03/12/25 08:19 AM
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Ding ding ding… you are the 🥇
/r/MensRights02/12/25 10:27 PM
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The problem with this “take” though, is that you have projected “your” experience as being for all women. You do this without actually having any knowledge of what raising a family looks like- and deciding that will be fulfiling to you. Maybe it will, maybe it won’t, and it won’t matter, because once you have finished your degree, you plan to not work in the field and find a low stakes job and raise your family. Which is great - feminists gave you choices ! In a few years time, after a couple of…
/r/MensRights02/12/25 09:16 PM
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Ahhh, yes 👏. Because your own offerings have been so profound. But, after a quick glance, when all you can offer is the perspective of a misogynistic, pro-gun, trump supporter- I’ll take the win on having nothing worthwhile for you to hear.
/r/MensRights02/12/25 03:26 PM
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Oh no… So sad… Thank you for being the voice of reason, I really needed a man to put me in my place. Better ? Sarcasm and I’m still being a bitch ✅
/r/MensRights02/12/25 01:50 PM
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Yeah- its always the way with text - with strangers- and even those we know
/r/MensRights02/12/25 01:42 PM
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I know. Im just being a shit stirer, everyone is so serious today.
/r/MensRights02/12/25 01:11 PM
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Oh, ominous… is this the foretelling ?
/r/MensRights02/12/25 09:54 AM
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If you are sitting on their face… meh, does it matter? 🤷‍♀️
/r/MensRights02/12/25 09:53 AM
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I think from what i have read, thats because you are a woman (its ok, you may recover from that malady?), who thinks that the draft shouldnt occur- because wars shouldnt occur. If we have to do conscription in the west which seems unlikely (but I am probably wrong living in my bubble). Leave the young women at home, send the middle aged women in - we have the rage, and my boxing club membership is getting $$$
/r/MensRights02/12/25 09:48 AM
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No, you are right, you didnt say that- apologies- these posts make me a little ragey, or maybe its my feminine hormones impacting me (🙄 but also maybe… ). I don’t know why feminists are responsible for solving these problems. Like I am 100 percent happy to jump on board a cause- and I am here, learning , and gathering understanding about these causes, but why are you waiting around for the feminists ? If it helps I fought a longstanding feminist war against my ex husbands family about MGM,(purpo…
/r/MensRights02/12/25 09:43 AM
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No… my body, my choice… that shit can be lucrative.
/r/MensRights02/12/25 09:30 AM
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And honestly, the only way my family thrives, is because of the work that feminists did to allow me to get a career to support my family, so that they could grow and prosper.
/r/MensRights02/12/25 09:20 AM
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Well thats just sad.. If MRA is a reaction to feminism, then all they are doing is centering women. Mens rights should be about ensuring that the issues that impact men, are seen and acknowledged, and impactful change is made. Ban male genital mutilation ✅, Advocate for and Tailor DFV refuges and support services for men ✅, Build positive male relationships, that centre male friendship, positive community and experiences to combat mental health ✅. None of that stuff happens so long as men are fo…
/r/MensRights02/12/25 09:18 AM
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The sad part is that there actually are some really important mens rights that should be fought for, because I do believe that we shouldnt be ignoring one to elevate another- but, it gets lost within the hate.
/r/MensRights02/12/25 09:00 AM
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What legislation are you suggesting for male suicide rates?
/r/MensRights02/12/25 08:54 AM
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Nice response. I do agree - pushing people to be something that they aren’t isnt great, but on the flipside, if women want to “emulate” males, and men want to be more feminine then - go for it to. Why can’t people be and do whatever the hell they want- what is the point in vying towards equality, if it still cages us ?
/r/MensRights02/12/25 08:49 AM
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I’m still pro everyone… cause we all can contribute, but I think I need a break from reddit.
/r/MensRights02/12/25 08:46 AM
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See, I agree with most of this, I think that different people bring different skills into most roles, sometimes with gender, sometimes with skills, sometimes with intellect, sometimes with adaptability, some are better communicators, some are better bullshit artists, and some , should probably find a different job. I feel like I am being rage baited when I read some comments, and today I have no fucks to give- so i am reactive- but- I appreciate your comment. Your talented parents raised someone…
/r/MensRights02/12/25 08:45 AM
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I love the whole, feminists are soo mean to us, when some of the misogynistic bs I read on here is just as bad or worse. Mens rights … meh, mid interest… women bashing, sign me up !
/r/MensRights02/12/25 08:35 AM
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Hmmm. Is that because you lack the ability to discern sarcasm. Its ok, a woman will be along to take your job soon. But he is right, she will earn less, in part because she has been socialised to believe that she is less, so they dont advocate as highly for there roles. She will all the required work, but will spread it over the 24 hours of the day, in between her household chores, kids ferrying etc, as well as her allotted “work hours”… whilst the men go home and coast on their little ladies la…
/r/MensRights02/12/25 08:03 AM
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Yeah… is that how we are packaging it up now, “empowered” wild party years… I wonder what else brings an end to those years, oh, thats right, “domestic bliss “
/r/MensRights02/12/25 07:31 AM
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Wow. You reflected and still said that out loud.
/r/MensRights02/12/25 07:29 AM
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Ok. So, I am coming at this from a similar standpoint 20 years on. We can’t blame feminism for making the wrong choices for us. Feminism paved the way for you to have a choice to be able to access these courses, and to have the choice to choose a career and/ or children. You made the choice of what that might want to do, which is great, but now you are in the thick of it and it doesn’t quite look like how you thought it might. And thats ok. We don’t always know what we want, how it will look and…
/r/MensRights02/12/25 05:31 AM
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Interesting. 🤔. Can I ask your age”ish”?
/r/MensRights02/12/25 03:49 AM
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See it could also be argued that a lot of men don’t understand a woman’s Pov, or minimise it, and women “going on and on about something” is likewise them playing the victim. Hence why an integral part of reducing family violence is getting men on board to advocate which you see in the flip side.
/r/MensRights02/12/25 02:44 AM
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And i acknowledge that the numbers show that men are working in those areas (like mining etc) at higher numbers- but some of these “advantages” women get to be able to work in these fields , are trying to bring more equality into these spaces. For example - in mines in Australia the rates are now down to about 75 % men/ 25 % women. This is an area that is unlikely to ever reach equality/equity. Many of the women in this field are younger and/or child free- as there are plenty of roles within tha…
/r/MensRights02/12/25 01:38 AM
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Hmmm. I guess thats my priviledge, living in a country where welfare is available to all. Most scholarships are family income based, or due to being first nations, alimony is rare, and child support. Pfft. Hospitals are accessible to everyone and free.
/r/MensRights01/12/25 12:01 PM
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So, where I live these stats are changing… You mention “essential for survival?” But, what these stats you talk about always ignore is the care economy, and the fact that without offspring the world will drive to a halt in an existential sense. The reality is that everyone has value and a role.
/r/MensRights01/12/25 10:43 AM
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Well… no. But here’s the thing. Everyone complains about women getting assistance to access education and getting jobs, so now they are making more money… which means that all these men, who also like to be upset about how all the financial burden sits on their shoulders, and woah… the tax burden … well now, if you choose to be coupled more money comes in - so ? The elderly, contributed to earlier generations, and the disabled should be cared for as they are valuable members of society. What exa…
/r/MensRights01/12/25 10:31 AM
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Is there a pinned post on here that actually gives suggestions of what people can be doing to actually activate change within their communities , cities and countries? It would be great for people to be able to show how they are able to affect or advocate for change within their communities?
/r/MensRights01/12/25 06:36 AM
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See - I would agree with everything that you have written in this paragraph. Sometimes people aren’t aware of it. Many years ago, I was at a school playground with kids and I was sitting bf a baby, a wonderful dad who I was friends with was there playing with all the kids, super interactive, they were all having a great time. A random female child got hurt, and was bellowing and standing on the edge of the high equipment - he was there and talking with her, she was putting her arms out to be hel…
/r/MensRights01/12/25 06:32 AM
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I mean I prefer them chained to the bedhead but whatever kink floats your boat…
/r/MensRights01/12/25 06:06 AM
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I think that you raise some salient points here. I also am pro-choice (no caveats). However, it’s been interesting hearing the numbers of abortions. Which makes me curious as to why the numbers are so high? I am curious as to what people see in there “irl worlds” ?
/r/MensRights30/11/25 02:43 PM
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What are the circumstances of the conception of the child in this hypothetical? What are the condtions of this baby trapping ?
/r/MensRights30/11/25 02:18 PM
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If it was, I would not have asked. However, i think that different countries have differing levels of laxity in how enforced child support is, and also how the levels of child support align with the actual costs of raising a child. There is also many loopholes and work arounds where I live, thus the reason for my question.
/r/MensRights30/11/25 02:00 PM
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Interestingly, I have teens and young adults- isnt this primarily the cautionary tale we tell them about engaging in sex ? Sex has consequences? How do we define baby trapping ?
/r/MensRights30/11/25 01:55 PM
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You have been here, all day ( i know because I went to an entire concert in between it all ) insulting people and being belligerent in responses. People are giving considered thoughts and responses, where as you keep restating the same “ i want abortion. I dont want to pay child support or alimony”. You are welcome to have those opinions- because that is your right and it might be helpful to explain why it impacts you (because clearly this is personal). Which may help to engage in more productiv…
/r/MensRights30/11/25 01:49 PM
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What is your definition of fully enforced?
/r/MensRights30/11/25 01:35 PM
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I wouldn’t say thats a fair statement for everyone on here. There is of course some…
/r/MensRights30/11/25 01:18 PM
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Totally agree on sex work. Where I live it is legal. You have made me think about the drugs thing- I hadnt put it into that perspective. Here, there is limited access to prescription weed, and in some parts it’s decriminalised, but not legal. Otherwise its all out… I’m gonna think about the drug one- thanks for giving me a new brain worm 🪱 .
/r/MensRights30/11/25 01:07 PM
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Going a step further than that, only cause I am curious, and there is no need to answer either… For me, (I have children) But, I almost died having the last one, and was advised that i should not have another child- as I could hemorrage at any point. In that scenario, would you still be making your same decision?
/r/MensRights30/11/25 12:58 PM
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Yeah. Interesting. I have already stated my opinion on being pro-choice, but I respect your choice to be pro-life. So, thanks for sharing your thoughts.
/r/MensRights30/11/25 12:53 PM
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Is the logic in the room with us ? He has just said that he appreciated the availability of abortion, which suggests, he would approve of its legality. And yes, anyone can refuse to fuck. Its an equal male and female reproductive right. Yay equality.
/r/MensRights30/11/25 12:44 PM
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I actually do support and often advocate for the wellbeing of men. It doesn’t mean that I have to agree with every one of your decisions, nor every MRA issue (which as people have already established on this subreddit - Abortion is not one). I do however, respect your right to have an opinion , and do not call you names. The reality is that we are not equal in this regard. Men and women are both integral to reproduction, but only one has the capacity to grow a child. You have options to protect …
/r/MensRights30/11/25 12:37 PM
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But yet, you seem to. There are plenty of people on this sub, who also don’t believe in abortion- and think that men should pay child support. Is it my gender that offends you ? Life is nuanced.
/r/MensRights30/11/25 08:13 AM
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That would depend.
/r/MensRights30/11/25 06:05 AM
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I don’t want a child so yes, I use a long term reproductive device. If /when I have sex with random men I would also use condoms. Failing that I would and have used plan B and even then, because I am pro-choice there is a fourth option. So the problem isnt men. I quite like most men. If I make a choice to have sex, I make sure that I do all that I can to mitigate the risk. And if on the tiniest most minute chance then yes, I have the child… because I weighed the decision to have sex which comes …
/r/MensRights30/11/25 05:31 AM
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Ummmm… I’m pretty sure there is some other options there.
/r/MensRights30/11/25 05:21 AM
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I’m sorry that you feel invisible. Everyone deserves kindness. Sometimes doing our own thing and focusing on ourselves for a bit is helpful, to remember what we enjoy and what brings us purpose, especially after being treated shittily. Hope you find your way
/r/MensRights30/11/25 05:20 AM
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Dude. Stay celibate or have a vasectomy . Then you need to do neither
/r/MensRights30/11/25 04:58 AM
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Is there a point at which that decision is made. Like if you are in a relationship, and you together decide to have a child together , are you still claiming that you should be able to make a decision about child support ?
/r/MensRights30/11/25 04:58 AM
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Well if they have aborted them then you aren’t paying for them
/r/MensRights30/11/25 04:54 AM
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Curious on the unable to abort thing here. If she is unable to abort- due to location /laws/timing/belief system ?
/r/MensRights30/11/25 04:38 AM
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I was trying to clarify in the context of this situation. Clearly this is something that personally impacts you because you seem to have quite passionate beliefs on it. So to clarify, you are pro-life. So the woman is required to have the child. But you are also against child support and alimony. So - a woman has no choice but to have the child, and then you don’t support paying for the child that you have “sired”. But you also want contact with the child ? I’m presuming at this point that you a…
/r/MensRights30/11/25 04:33 AM
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I’m interested in the downvotes on this ? Why is this not a supported opinion ? Or are people seeking access to the child but no financial reaponsibility ?
/r/MensRights30/11/25 03:32 AM
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Which part doesn’t matter?
/r/MensRights30/11/25 02:10 AM
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Anti- alimony / child support in all situations or how/when? Curious because alimony isn’t as commonplace where I live- whereas I think in the states its more.
/r/MensRights30/11/25 12:42 AM
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I don’t necessarily disagree with this- but I think there would need to be some checks and balances in there. The situation is different if they were in a longer term relationship, planned a child together and he pulled out halfway through- to a random hook up where something goes wrong. That being said… Condoms are a thing, and I think a male contraceptive also comes out shortly.
/r/MensRights30/11/25 12:09 AM
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Of course. I mean it couldnt be that the same things that make it hard to prove a false accusation true/false, could be the same things that make it difficult to prove a rape true or false. As I will continue to say, I totally agree that the definition of Rape should be extended to include female on male rape charges. I live in Australia ours laws reflect this. How do you lobby to change this in the UK ?
/r/MensRights29/11/25 10:31 PM
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Nah… I’m not in the US. If I were I’d be moving… (to the left). If the “usual progressive propaganda” means giving a shit about ALL mens (and human) rights- Yeah 👍
/r/MensRights29/11/25 09:16 PM
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Is this a marketing opportunity? I could really embrace a christmas break without my kids, wake up at 11, head to the beach…
/r/MensRights29/11/25 08:17 PM
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Yeah- the narrative on that is poor and inflammatory. I think we all have to take some responsibility on the people we choose to spend time with. I’m sure all of us have friends men/women who end up with the same “type” of people, moaning about the same problems, time and time again .
/r/MensRights29/11/25 08:14 PM
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I feel like a fair bit of this is a media and marketing narrative though, getting people to buy in to whatever “trend” is going on. Hence the changing in standards over the years and decades. Maybe I’m old now (could probably skip the maybe) but I most people I know exercise so there body doesn’t hurt, and their mind is less fucked and eat so there jeans still fit.
/r/MensRights29/11/25 08:05 PM
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Honest question - Are they saying that they hate men or some of the behaviours of the men in the (probably online ) dating world? Cause I think the two could be distinguishable ? And probably very much on the flipside too.
/r/MensRights29/11/25 10:43 AM
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No. You shouldnt drop the issue. Boys are innocent and pure- and deserving of protection. The comments sections are repugnant.
/r/MensRights29/11/25 08:08 AM
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Its absolutely abhorrent what happened to this young boy and the comment sections make me sick.
/r/MensRights29/11/25 08:03 AM
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And I apologise for my earlier comment about an admission of guilt. Do you want me to delete it?
/r/MensRights29/11/25 07:43 AM
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Its interesting that in the mensrights reddit, the right that you are fighting to uphold is the right to be able to normalise female on male child sexual assault. I’m not sure where the shaming of mens sex drive is here ? Odd thing to correlate.
/r/MensRights29/11/25 07:41 AM
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Are they not legal where you are ?
/r/MensRights29/11/25 02:59 AM
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I think that the “gaslighting” is just highlighting the coercive control and insecurity of the person insisting on the ban. If this is a genuine concern for you, I would maybe be looking for a different type of person. If you know of young women who are being offered these types of opportunities- a decent human thing to do would be to advise them not to go. There are various accounts of poor treatment, with no remedy as extra-marital sex (or rape) is jailable there.
/r/MensRights29/11/25 02:09 AM
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(First I agree with you) But second, I want to live in this dystopian unit world you have created. Where the monthly expenses are 13.3 % of monthly income.
/r/MensRights29/11/25 01:54 AM
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I do enjoy the diversity on this subreddit. On one thread its “women are all” easy and cheaters, all they have to do is go onto online dating and they can get sex from any guy anytime they want, ugly ones, fat ones, only the top 10 percent of guys get all the matches… So congratulations ? On being in the top 10 ?
/r/MensRights29/11/25 01:38 AM
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Any damn day… It’s equally disappointing over in false accusations too. Sigh
/r/MensRights29/11/25 12:42 AM
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I think a lot of the data distinguishes between actual reports and self reports, and the self reports whilst adding information isn’t added to the crime statistics. I’m not sure how the stats class drinking and rape in the US, but here the 2 are distinguishable. I mean, I am pretty sure that if we removed the amount of sex that “counted” because people had been drinking / and drunk, the rates of sex would also plummet, generally, but, drinking or being drunk does not correlate with consent (exce…
/r/MensRights29/11/25 12:40 AM
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I’m glad that in your experience, (and that of the male collegues that you know - of the information they felt comfortable sharing with you- because as we know there are barriers there) the incidents of sexual harassment and assault have been “minor allegations and offences”. Thank you for sharing your experiences with me. Unfortunately, its not an experience that I can align with- as many are at the extreme end, and not all perpetrated by men.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:59 PM
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Thank you for explaining what you meant by mitigating circumstances. I do appreciate you engaging respectfully in these discussions, because even if we disagree, it can still be valuable. I do agree that we all should take responsbility, and mitigate our actions or minimise our risks - and that it is a sad state of affairs. I mean, there is mitigating risks and there is living life. We should all have self defense training - where i live its taught in schools- great- its a life skill. Being mind…
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:52 PM
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Also- I totally agree with your final point. That women should be held accountable for the rape of men, the strict definition of penetration etc, should be modified to include women to men rape.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:18 PM
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The 2.6 % came from a 2005 study sample, from the UK. It looked at 3,527 cases of sexual assault reports across 6 police forces. They used 2643 of these cases as they had the most police “documentation”. Of these 216 were evaluated as “no crime”, of these 8 were classified as false allegations. There are criticisms of this study (which is why the 2 % is at the bottom of the range).
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:15 PM
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Could you tell me the cases where the real researchers come up with 40-60 percent false accusations ? Or are they pinned in the reddit notes ? The 2-10 percent claims come from multiple meta - analysis’s of sexual assault crime data. I believe if you search Lisak et al (2020) Rumney (2006) Ferguson & Malouff (2016). No dataset is without criticism, or bias. But the meta-analysis at least can provide a greater “smoothing” of multiple studies. The vast majority of sexual assault crimes aren’t even…
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:00 PM
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Can i ask what you mean about sex crimes being way more able to be mitigated against than false accusations ?
/r/MensRights28/11/25 08:53 PM
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But likewise a woman shouldn’t go out in Mexico City for that drink either. There is being mindful in dangerous places, which is just cautious human behaviour. And yes, there are certain cities in the world where certain genders/races/minorities are at a greater risk of harm. Again, should you be able to - of course. But I didn’t refer to those places, i just said out.. Your comment suggests that “out” for women is a dangerous place. She is making a poor choice for having the audacity to be drin…
/r/MensRights28/11/25 08:48 PM
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I agree that a lot of the old movies and tv shows show a lot of fucked up stuff. Its bizarre re-watching stuff now with a different lens on it. Why does it matter? Because these attitudes continue to pervade the mainstream, and normalise that sexualising kids is ok. And that is fucked up.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 08:26 PM
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Sorry, missed this. Yes. Meh… part and parcel of the lions den that reddit can be.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 08:12 PM
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Apologies.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 08:07 PM
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Your comment suggested a “reverse” of dont you think that women have dreams about older men (adults) when they hit puberty. (Lol) I responded to you. No. They don’t. Any linking of children to adults sexually is vile. It minimises the experiences of the children who have been impacted by this, creating barriers for them to be believed and to report. It creates a mainstream narrative that its implicitly ok. Unhinged ? Ok.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 08:06 PM
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I’m super happy to go against the grain. But, it doesnt mean it doesn’t concern me about humanity (lol). I think I have maybe spent a little too long in here over the past week. I’m gonna get some sleep.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 02:17 PM
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Yeah. It is disappointing- and i think the response here is more positive than what i have seen on other posts. I really don’t understand. It’s also the “its just men…” we can be horni… blah blah. But this is a child. This is a depiction of sexual assault. There is nothing casual or joky in that
/r/MensRights28/11/25 02:10 PM
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Huh ? Why would i want the age of consent lowered to 12 ?
/r/MensRights28/11/25 02:00 PM
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Sorry that happened to you.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 01:30 PM
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Your comment - what was the intention of your gripping comment?
/r/MensRights28/11/25 01:24 PM
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What do you mean - the wrong sub? Where should I be? And still what is your question?
/r/MensRights28/11/25 01:22 PM
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I dont want to be patronising and say thank you… but more thank goodness. You have given me some faith in humanity on this subreddit 🙄
/r/MensRights28/11/25 01:14 PM
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Yep
/r/MensRights28/11/25 01:11 PM
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But, here is the thing, blind acceptance of this is not helpful. It 100 percent could have depicted the same message “ young man, going through changes, sexual awakening “ in far less graphic ways, without an “adult” being involved or undressed. This stuff is fucked up
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:48 AM
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Are we calling this an admission of guilt?
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:44 AM
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😳… i sometimes wonder if consent training and sex education is still necessary. Ummm hell yes
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:43 AM
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But is it necessary to be placed onto a mainstream show? This child was sexualised … because he was a child and she was an adult. Sure in your own home- there may be nudity or whatever. But thisnis very different and his “movement into puberty and desire could have been depicted in many ways that didnt debase a child and apparently feed into the sexual fantasies of grown men ( if this reddit is an example)
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:40 AM
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Honest question , were you surprised by the comments ? Disappointed? Or were they expected ?
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:33 AM
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Hmmm. And media doesnt impact anyone ?
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:32 AM
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Huh ? What does this even mean
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:31 AM
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I mean, not if you just keep spouting off the rhetoric and blame hollywood. Or you could acknowledge the bias and issues in your own comments, and acknowledge that gender norms and minimising male sexual assault is probably a shitter human thing to embody than the potential of opening up a can of worms (and lol… really ? Where is the funny part? Oh, the depiction of sexual assault on minors ? … No , didnt think so).
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:31 AM
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It doesnt matter that the context is a dream ? These shows are written by writers - they are literally making the decisions. A childs development into puberty a. Probably shouldnt be so graphically demonstrated b. Could involve fantasy characters c. Could involve people of his own age d. could have been fucking avoided and had a parent bitching about the kid spending so long in the shower, or having a box of tissues and cream on the bedside table. These scenes are scripted and your permissive ap…
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:25 AM
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No. We dont. And your comment is vile.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:11 AM
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But how does it matter ? ( i understand how it does, and we should be calling out media etc for how they portray these things.) I dont think the child being abused cares about the relative attractiveness of the person. Call out the people making the shit comments.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:10 AM
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Really interesting perspective. Cause those comments piss me off too. I don’t blame the woman for there comments though. Because it is clear that this is a sex predator- and her act is abhorrent and criminally and morally wrong. Men need to take responsibilty for the comments on these pages and do better, and men, like you, need to call it out.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:07 AM
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100 percent. I mean most of the article seems to be premised on- the victim is lying- why do you think so- its just the vibe i get. It does make me wonder if quite a number of people in the r/mensrights - don there police uniform, to chat with the officers ( of course this is a joke- but seriously - read further).
/r/MensRights28/11/25 11:00 AM
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The thing is though, police officers don’t do all of that. In this part, they are often literal admin, asking questions and recording responses, whilst providing the “protective” cover of being the police. In my country (and probably yours) there are specialised divisions that then address these claims more sensitively), they then go through supports and courts (if they make it through the stress and trauma of having to retell the story of the worst events of your life, to people who often dont …
/r/MensRights28/11/25 10:52 AM
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Yeah - they are. Because the nature of sexual assault is hard to prove. Its generally not done in public. There is generally a taboo around it. Women are told that they cant go out in public and have a few drinks- cause well, thats asking for it. Men are told that they can’t be raped, because well, if their penis was hard, they must have been into it ( which in case it isnt outrageously clear is not correct- men can have a physiological response- which doesn’t mean they consented nor wanted it )…
/r/MensRights28/11/25 10:40 AM
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Why can’t women go out to a public place and get drunk ? Why can she not expect to do this and not get raped? Can you go out to a public place and get drunk ? Is it then your fault if you get raped?
/r/MensRights28/11/25 10:35 AM
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These statisitics represent male experience too. No one suggest that due process is thrown out. Why would we. Obviously due process should be followed. But there shouldnt be a presumption based on the 2-10 percent of statistics (by you know researchers- not reddit experts.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 10:33 AM
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What is the purpose of your desire to hear about anecodotal evidence of female experience?
/r/MensRights28/11/25 10:31 AM
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So the 2-10% were proven to be false allegations, and the rest were, umm, not ? How could it not be true. Are the people in your real world so horrible, that you truly believe that most of them are lying horrible people ? What are we even talking about civil and workplace settings for ? You know that those people fall under the same like “legal banner”… ( with the exception of certain fields like the military that have their own rules.) It’s not - oh, I work at J and P construction and I was rap…
/r/MensRights28/11/25 10:29 AM
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Every police officer I have ever spoken to has complained about the amount of corruption and boys club “shit” that pervades the police force. Do you work with the police ? Or is your contact more personal in nature ?
/r/MensRights28/11/25 10:13 AM
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I don’t doubt that it costs money to fight a “false allegation” . I’m sorry that you went through that.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 10:11 AM
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Yes. People make false accusations. The statistics suggest up to 10 %, the expert researchers and statisticians on r/mens rights suggest anywhere between 50- 90 percent of women make false accusations. These researchers use information from surveys and studies with police. But, no… door dash girl… all women make it up… make it make sense ? You do realise that these studies, that suggest the 2-10 % of false accusations include men. So, when you dispute them, you are also disputing and minimising …
/r/MensRights28/11/25 10:07 AM
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Its not believe all women. Its believe the statistic. Just pulled this post that I made on another post from in the last week, as this pathetic troupe just keeps getting dragged out… Ive just read a meta-analysis across a number of studies including the Lisak et al study by Ferguson and Malouff that suggests the number to be slightly higher than 5 %. Which refers to those that have been shown to be verifably false, as distinguished to the others that you mention don’t have evidence either way. W…
/r/MensRights28/11/25 10:00 AM
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What the hell is this bs ?
/r/MensRights28/11/25 09:55 AM
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I mean there is another option. Perhaps the cultural practises in Uganda are different to Western Practises. A quick google search suggests that pologamy is common, that there are some traditional cultural practices in place that allow for implied permission, where other family members would step in for purposes of “providing an heir”. There was not the focus on the “individual “ husband being the father, just a child who is “inherently” part of the family by being part of it. This was used when…
/r/MensRights28/11/25 09:34 AM
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Ive just read a meta-analysis across a number of studies including the Lisak et al study by Ferguson and Malouff that suggests the number to be slightly higher than 5 %. Which refers to those that have been shown to be verifably false, as distinguished to the others that you mention don’t have evidence either way. Which is essentially a challenge with sexual assault cases anyway, as they are often with little to no verifiable witnesses, and an ongoing “myth or belief” that sexual assault needs t…
/r/MensRights28/11/25 07:47 AM
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Not how it works… Women don’t divorce cause the “feel like it “. So, you would prefer that “people” stay miserable in marriages. Is this a religious thing ? What reasons do you think are reasonable to leave a marriage for ?
/r/MensRights28/11/25 04:06 AM
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Happy to be called out on the gender disparity of this. I try to be mindful of offering differing perspectives, but on this you are absolutely right. I sincerely apologise. The way that rape and sexual assault of men is depicted, ignored and minimised is abhorrent. I fully support the changing of the legal parameters of PIV (or VOP) to be classed rightfully as Rape - obtaining the highest penalty possible. Men are essentially raped over and over again, - by a general myth of disbelief that it ca…
/r/MensRights28/11/25 03:45 AM
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The reality is that we also don’t live in a 2D world. We dont have to only address these issues with blind objectivity, child rearing, cheating etc should also be considered with a subjective lense. So yes, it is a false equivalence- but if women have to prove their faithfulness, men should too. As you are right, men cant (grow) children, but women should also have reassurance that their sacrifice is also sound.
/r/MensRights28/11/25 12:43 AM
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It may be a false equivalency, but both proposed policies are inherently sexist and gendered. That women cheat and financially trap men, or that men cheat and trap women into pregnancy. If a woman can be proven to cheat, the man fairly walks away, but as you stated, she has options of abortion or firehouse drop off- This is also faulty logic, and also supports STD testing before / during pregnancy for elements she can’t control, because without this timely indication, those choice are null and v…
/r/MensRights28/11/25 12:31 AM
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Well yes and no. STD testing is important at the start of “unprotected” sex in a relationship, and again aprroximately 3-4 months after any sexual encounter with non member of that relationship. If you need regular testing after that point, i would be suggesting a new relationship and not going onto raising children together. Unless you embrace a polyamory, or swinging, or ENM relationship in which case regular testing is part and parcel of the relationship responsibilities. However, a woman can…
/r/MensRights28/11/25 12:01 AM
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Not faulty. Important values and principles in healthy relationships - but like I said - I would do it. I think that mandatory testing would be an option, with the benefit of giving actual statisitics to the prevalence of this phenomenon. Equal footing- so men should be prepared to have regular (mandatory) STI /STD screening during the reproductive years, so that women can be assured that the health of the child and their health and sacrifice is not impacted by potential diseases and outcomes ca…
/r/MensRights27/11/25 10:37 PM
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Sure. I can understand that some people because of their life and experiences need it to be proved. I tend to curate the people and relationships in my life, so that for the most part trust is generally granted over time, with their actions, character and integrity being part of it.
/r/MensRights27/11/25 10:17 PM
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I disagree with the assertion of “inferiority complex” ; that dynamic did not belong in that relationship. I can acknowledge where from my words that you would see that, I probably should have chosen those words differently. I guess I feel like it would undermine my principle of integrity, respect and trust that I shared with my husband in that relationship, these shared values are part of the relational bond that the two of us had. As I said, I would do the DNA test if that was necessary but I …
/r/MensRights27/11/25 09:27 PM
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Fair point. I was not quoting any one on this thread here.
/r/MensRights27/11/25 08:40 PM
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Oh come now, dont let things like the actual words, intention and facts get in the way of their good story… i’m trying to go to sleep and the justifications and finangling to fit a narrative is like an evolved but masculine fairytale…
/r/MensRights27/11/25 03:56 PM
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Never Women had it worse. I was supporrt Glad’s post- where he claimed that according to surveys women “claim” to be lonely. Giving further evidence- to support that claim.
/r/MensRights27/11/25 09:45 AM
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It makes me worry for humanity when people use the devastation of mental health and suicidality (attempted or otherwise) to denigrates males or females. But sure, if you want to win 🥇… you got it. Men are lonelier.
/r/MensRights27/11/25 09:27 AM
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I dont want a fascist dictatorship a would happily submit to a DNA test for my kids. Cause they all belong to their father. But, I would 100 percent have an issue with the presumption. It undermines the trust in a relationship, and suggests that one party is lesser , lesser in morals, lesser in trustworthiness. To take emotion out of it, would the man be happy to submit to STD testing before every “uncovered” sexual encounter ? Because the risk of a sexually transmitted disease may impact on a c…
/r/MensRights27/11/25 07:34 AM
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I understand the issues that you have with the representation of the genderisation of this advert, and messaging of this advert. But, realistically, whether or not this is a man or a woman escaping with a child because they do not “feel safe”. That is a rational, reasonable reason to leave. Without the fear for safety, its unlikely they are “sneaking” out in the middle of the night. They would just be leaving at any old time.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 10:28 PM
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Whilst I am sure that there may be a few people with extreme views who enter these roles, it is not different to what has been occurring with men in these roles over the years. The treatment of minorities, LGBTIQA+ communities, sexist views against women and for many of the years these views were never challenged or discussed, because it was just how society viewed people. Many of these people are well educated, with developed critical thinking skills and use there time more effectively than scr…
/r/MensRights26/11/25 09:18 PM
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I was literally pulling information from the article you referenced as the source. I guess those researchers dont know much about it either?
/r/MensRights26/11/25 08:52 PM
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What are we considering “dating down” ? This is such a wrong idiot bs response. If we look at financials as a measure- i am in a relationship with someone with far less assets, income and earning capacity than I have. I dont give 2 shits. There value has never been in their financial worth. It is in there inherent and individual value as human, the fact that they make me feel safe, make me laugh, i find them wise and like listening to them, and feel sheltered in their presence, they allow me to …
/r/MensRights26/11/25 11:05 AM
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I disagree with this. I think that to a large part yes, women have attempted to dismantle the traditional gender roles and are now moving forward, many men have come along with them, feeling more able to live in the way they want to, you know, sharing the financial load, taking a greater role in parenting and household “choreplay”, and embracing a sense of emotionality and comradery and vulnerability with like minded mates and women. Then there are the others who want it to go back, ( in some wa…
/r/MensRights26/11/25 10:58 AM
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I’m not entirely sure that going onto welfare is often used as a trigger for divorce (but never say never). Realistically, this is still not a lot of money to live and “thrive” on ( the additional welfare of 30 k), and ideally is there to support as someone finds a job or upskills to better paid hours (and before anyone jumps in- I am well aware that some people (of all genders are happy to live on welfare long term) - and thats ok too. I think if people want to reduce themselves to a financial …
/r/MensRights26/11/25 10:43 AM
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Honestly, I think its because its easier to blame the other gender than to evolve. The would prefer to be caged by rigid stereotypes and narrow views of masculinity which impact negatively on mental health. I dont know, there are so many options when you don’t have to live inside a fixed box
/r/MensRights26/11/25 09:14 AM
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Thank you for providing some greater context as to the situation by linking the article. It would be interesting to know what that looks like as an average wage (and what it affords) in the US. Because here in Australia the maximum amount one can get from the government with 2 kids and rental assistance and full time care is just under $1000 a week. But we also have government funded health care, dental for children and medications. However, i dont think anyone here is suggesting that people on …
/r/MensRights26/11/25 09:00 AM
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I have linked the journal article. I have previously been given negative responses to my request for peer reviewed journal articles or studies that are more than “random facebook poll”.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 08:09 AM
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As i said, it is a shit show and incredibly sad over every demographic. I’m not going to enter into the ins and outs of the article. Its a shit show. Interestingly, lack of help seeking, not having social connection, greater alcohol use , traditional gender roles etc were mentioned as potential “additional” stressors.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 08:01 AM
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I mean - that doesnt seem enlightened . That seems like a sh!tty person.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 07:47 AM
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In the article ? Or in the subreddit ?
/r/MensRights26/11/25 07:40 AM
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I’m not sure how you think that i believe on this. I have no issue how welfare is distributed. I dont think men are paying women, I think that people give in society in a way that they can, and for those that cannot they are also protected. I don’t see that as a gendered thing. I am not in the US, thankfully, so I dont understand how the tax system works there. Here, welfare and free healthcare is available for all residents who earn less than the prescribed amount. There are also differing amou…
/r/MensRights26/11/25 07:20 AM
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Sorry- for further clarity of the “breakdown” was the opening page that of how much of the tax that the person /gender pays towards social security? Or how much social security they are paid? And thank you for adding some statistics.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 07:11 AM
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https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s12119-021-09845-6.pdf I also post it- knowing that this subreddit is largely anti- journal articles, anti peer reviewed information so often find it fruitless… its much better to read “surveys”.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 06:57 AM
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Im not sure about the rules of posting from outside sources on here ?
/r/MensRights26/11/25 06:21 AM
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Women have been expected to cater to men, sadly. They traditionally have cooked and cleaned for them, and according to other posts they should be pretty and virtuous and loyal to them. I mean when they are younger thats what they are taught. And now they want to change that, and be doctors, and judges, and … back to the kitchen damn women… where you belong.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 05:57 AM
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Women are already in these roles. They are judges, prosecutors, doctors, forensic scientists and detectives. They like the men in these roles, have personal values, skillsets and bias. All are likely intelligent and all are likely flawed. I have far less issue with humans in these roles than some presidents in their role.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 05:53 AM
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Women actual attempt at rates higher then men, just that men use different ( more successful) techniques. So, it looks like there is plenty of loneliness. Which is pretty damn sad across every demographic.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 05:33 AM
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The internet isn’t a closed place- the mens groups I refer to are not private. Also we all have access to often vile comment sections. I want to distinguish between those, and perhaps regular social/ sporting/hobby based mens groups or clubs- as I think that often there can be more diversity of thought in these. You say that men are asked what they doing or whether they were intoxicated (in what types of situations?) Its interesting that you then made a highly “gendered” comment after that. That…
/r/MensRights26/11/25 02:22 AM
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They don’t receive welfare ?
/r/MensRights26/11/25 01:56 AM
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Hmmm. I guess it depends on our definition of “loyal”. I think that people should not cheat on their partners, and I think that we should “generally” (there are exceptions) back our partners in public arenas etc. I think we should be committed to working on our relationships and being consistent in that effort. I dont think thats a male/ female thing. I think its a human thing.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 01:56 AM
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I never said that they were encouraged - but after the fact- it is sometimes justified (especially in mens groups -not necessarily this one) that it is a natural consequence of being denied sex. You misinterpreted what i said, i am saying that the women with whom the man cheats with (the other woman) , often receives the most vitriol from women (not the man). She doesn’t hold a responsibility to the “base” family ( sometimes doesnt even know about them/ but sometimes yes).
/r/MensRights26/11/25 01:52 AM
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Sorry - still not following. You said “they are good at being up old sh!t ?” Do you mean “beating up old sh!?” Or something else ? I’m not sure how much time plumbers spend beating up sh!t ? 💩 , male or female.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 01:15 AM
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Have you considered the danger of algorithms on social media and the internet and how that impacts the information we are presented with? I’m not saying that there are not women who value those traditional men paying for women on dates etc. Indeed on this subreddit, many men seem to want these women who want this model. Shamefully, my daughter sometimes spouts that bullshit. To which she is vehemently debated. Funnily enough, the feminists who are much maligned on these pages - dont follow those…
/r/MensRights26/11/25 12:54 AM
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Really ? Because a woman wants to have multiple sexual partners (when single etc)- she is a slut, whore and less virtuous,therefore less valuable. Men are players, and gaining experience ? Women who are raped, are judged on what they are wearing ? Why they put themselves into that position ? Being intoxicated ? Not having better judgement of the person she brings home/ marries etc? I think that gendered perspectives negatively impact both men and women.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 12:29 AM
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Interesting. Its not been my experience. Not only that but when a man cheats- the vitriol is often on the women who he cheats with (certainly by women). She’s the homewrecker - even though shes not the one who had a responsibility to the family (other than a general “not being a shit human” moral responsibility. Looks like another situation where our individual perspective does not make it a universal truth.
/r/MensRights26/11/25 12:25 AM
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So womens only value was/is to be pretty and virgins, and loyal…. Rrrrrrrriggggghhhhht. Can’t imagine why women have an issue with that… I will ask again. In the US do men not receive welfare?
/r/MensRights25/11/25 11:55 PM
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Huh ? Dropped the ?
/r/MensRights25/11/25 11:52 PM
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Hmmm. What does that mean ?
/r/MensRights25/11/25 11:50 PM
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So that then they will also be able to positively contribute to the workforce, reduce the need for men to feel the overwhelming burder of financial responsibility, and the wages that they earn will be taxed, and the things they buy will be taxed and all of that money goes back into the government- to support whomever needs it ? Women already contribute to the economy and society as a whole- as do men- as do the elderly, disabled, etc everyone. Are men not eligible for welfare in the US ?
/r/MensRights25/11/25 11:38 PM
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Part of my concern is why are (you) as man - equating their worth to women only as financial? Isnt that only perpetuating gender roles and the stuff that is frustrating ? I think that all previously married/ coupled people go into a new relationship jaded , and we should as evolved and critically thinking people, be weighing up pros and cons of any relationship.
/r/MensRights25/11/25 11:23 PM
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My question is of curiousity- i don’t understand how the welfare works ? Does it not apply to all? And is rent assistance/ parenting payments etc not applied in relation to need etc ? What do you mean by filibuster ? I understand the concept - on single parenting pages in the country that i am in, there is discussion about when single people with majority care of children are looking to co habitate with a new partner- the loss of governmental benefits can be factored in, also when people are loo…
/r/MensRights25/11/25 11:01 PM
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Also, the way we treat people can really give people an insight as to what we are like. Ie. Treating a waiter like a slave - so your insistence on this being a friend - would leave me uncomfortable about how you view other women and people?
/r/MensRights25/11/25 10:23 PM
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You have sexualised - and created an illicit image of a female friend as a joke. I can understand its an issue. The fact that it also is being passed around between the group as titillation - suggests that you are a shit friend to this person too. I can see the issue for the friend and clearly and its clearly an issue for your wife. The focus on this “friend” and highlighting her boob, and editing etc - just gross. There is plenty of porn on the internet- look at that instead. Your “friend” who …
/r/MensRights25/11/25 10:20 PM
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Ok. When a woman cheats in a marriage she is a lying cheating and ungreatful “ enter shit name” , when a man cheats, its because his wife wasnt giving him sex. Now- i don’t think that either partner should ever cheat in a marriage. But, these characterisations are exactly that- our perspectives - and not universal truths.
/r/MensRights25/11/25 09:59 PM
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I don’t disagree. So what does “caring “ about the victims mean or look like ? Why do you feel like men have to suffer in silence ? I guess I am asking about actionable changes ? Kind of like if a tragedy occurs to a family - sending “thoughts and prayers” is one thing , symbolic- but doing actionable things to support that family is more likely to help that family be seen and supported. So what actionable changes need to occur ?
/r/MensRights25/11/25 09:38 PM
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I am not aware of the intricacies of welfare in the US. Does not the welfare apply to everyone ? And parenting payments be factored by wage, number of children and by percentage of child care ?
/r/MensRights25/11/25 09:28 PM
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You do realise that everything you have just said could be equally reversed ?
/r/MensRights25/11/25 09:22 PM
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Sheesh. This is uplifting. Marriage - the union of two people who mutually support one another, respect one another and value one another, and work together to create a life, home and family together. Gendered ideology should not play a role in this - and the couple should be able to create a world that suits their needs.
/r/MensRights25/11/25 09:18 PM
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Statistics (where I live suggest) Men commit more crime across every category (asides from prostitution) , there is a bigger gap between male and female offenders in more serious crimes and less differences in minor crimes- and so yes, Many statistics align with your statement yes. There are lots of factors that go into that; previous offending, prior life situations, discrimination, intersectionalities of people (some women - indigenous women are more likely to be jailed), caring reaponsibiliti…
/r/MensRights25/11/25 09:02 PM
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Men - were the victims of more homicides overall. I’m not denying that- and men were the perpetrators of the majority of those crimes - thus why i stated that men are more violent (in general inclusive of all of the crimes (not just DFV) (those stats dont include war etc . And before that is posed I dont support transcription- but need it be so, then it should not be gendered . It doesnt change the fact that women are the statistically higher (from the statistics available) victims of domestic a…
/r/MensRights25/11/25 10:36 AM
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If you were to see any of my previous posting history- you would see that i argue equally for all genders to not be the victims of intimate partner violence. I disagree with it ever been made light of. I’m very aware of statistics ( in my country) and the nuance around some of them. Yes- the rates of domestic violence in female : female relationships is high (which will be captured in this ad and international day of violence against women). There is very few people held accountable for DV, a sm…
/r/MensRights25/11/25 10:25 AM
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Or, that it makes men look bad ? Realistically, its going to be a hard statistic to show either side- because there is little advantage on either side to tell the truth
/r/MensRights25/11/25 09:46 AM
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In my country men are responsible for 87% percent of homicides towards men and women. If not men being more violent - how else do we explain a statistic like this ?
/r/MensRights25/11/25 09:43 AM
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Generally there are rule about advertising around suicide (because of copy cat issues) but I would 100 percent endorse ad campaigns about mens mental health, ways to seek help, build connections and community, breaking down gendered ideas of men needing to be stoic or non emotional. I also support gun control - because men (in countries where guns are available) use these to kill themselves more often. The more easily accessible the “method” and access to it, the higher the chance of suicidality…
/r/MensRights25/11/25 09:36 AM
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The reality is with an online poll is that without some standards (or an actual reference) etc its hard to hold that poll to account. Where the poll occured, how it got its respondents, whether or not they are representative of the community, whether or not there is advantage/ disadvantage in reporting. On top of that all polls/ studies have issues. An example- looking at a recent report about adolescent violence in the family home- it reported that 9/10 perpetrators had experienced family viole…
/r/MensRights25/11/25 09:28 AM
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I have google translate?
/r/MensRights25/11/25 09:21 AM
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I’m not sure of the rules in your country, and I understand that the laws around seperation/divorce etc can advantage/disadvantage men and women. But, people dont leave in the middle of the night with visible bruises (as typified in the video) with no reason.
/r/MensRights25/11/25 09:18 AM
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People escape same sex partners / gender diverse people , family (mothers- fathers) siblings etc. (and some run from cockroaches/ spiders in the bathroom yeah).
/r/MensRights25/11/25 09:15 AM
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Are you presuming that the other people aren’t “working/grinding?” So many people spend their lives working bloody hard without ever becoming millionaires. Not because they didnt toil, or put in blood sweat and tears, but because of disadvantage that they have (whether that is as non white people, blue vs white collar, disabled vs non disabled, language speaker vs non language speaker etc). It is absolutely bs saying as a white person you (or I) dont have priviledge . Other people aren’t necessa…
/r/MensRights25/11/25 08:55 AM
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Why providing money to women ?
/r/MensRights25/11/25 08:46 AM
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But you have also cherry picked the details of someone who seems to have an extreme view- and are highlighting it . I do agree with the thing about weapons- men, women, there is absolutely no reason for the amount of weapons especially firearms- reducing /restricting the availability of firearms would help to reduce violence against men, women, male suicide rates, child murder rates- I don’t see a damn issue with that.
/r/MensRights25/11/25 08:24 AM
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In what country?
/r/MensRights25/11/25 08:15 AM
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The ad is linked to international day of prevention of violence against women. The message translates to essentially- ‘we dont care what car you take to safety but get safe.’ It does not reference men. Its not an “ ad” to promote cars- instead the message of their associate charity. Worldwide women are disproportionately the victims of domestic and family violence. (Whether by intimate partners, parents, siblings etc).
/r/MensRights25/11/25 08:08 AM
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Im damn sure my reading comprehension is better than yours. Any sexual assault of a person should NEVER be classed as a WIN. Regardless of whether it means that someone is held to account. If you were raped tomorrow, but someone (male/female etc) was found guilty. Thats hardly a fucking win. Because you had to face that. If you can’t see any issue with what you said … maybe ask how men who have been assaulted feel about it. Sure- it may be better than someone is held to account- but its no fucki…
/r/MensRights24/11/25 09:46 AM
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But it still involved the assault of a man therefore… not a win.
/r/MensRights24/11/25 09:24 AM
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From what i read his being banned was an intial reaction to the initial complaint . Not necessarily ongoing
/r/MensRights24/11/25 09:23 AM
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Yeah- but so do flippant comments like that. I’m not judging just bringing awareness. Its like the fuckwits on a post about a teacher raping an 11 year old boy. The vast majority of (men) posting saying “wish that had happened when i was a kid.” When called on it - they said it was a joke- i was being lighthearted. No. Its so demeaning to the victim, and is part of why its harder for men to come forward about there abuse. We all need to do better.
/r/MensRights24/11/25 08:38 AM
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No one says… oh he assaulted or raped me, but he was a so called “high value”/ attractive man- so Yay 🎉
/r/MensRights24/11/25 08:28 AM
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Ok. So at this stage I am not talking about the details of the case. But women dont base there experience of sexual assault on whether or not the man is attractive.
/r/MensRights24/11/25 08:27 AM
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Its interesting that you are depicting what is alleged to be the sexual assault and dissemination of a mans naked image on the internet as a win. Its important to step away from the womens vs mens right stuff and say. Is that really a win?
/r/MensRights24/11/25 08:24 AM
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Its a fair question. I think if people make such remarks- having statistics is important.
/r/MensRights24/11/25 08:22 AM
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I agree thats its an important discussion to have, talking about inherent worth. I don’t want to invalidate your beliefs- but moreso challenge the certainty around them. To me, men and women have inherent worth as humans. There is no need to clarify this- we exist and therefore we have value. I’m sure that there is people who’s value we care less about (the monsters) as you say- but just because you or I might not value someone- doesnt mean that they dont have inherent value. Just that we dont g…
/r/MensRights24/11/25 08:07 AM
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Of course you should write it. Bringing attention to DV and SA against men is really important to help break down some of the barriers to reporting these crimes. Seeing this represented in a college paper may help to show men that they csn speak about/report and seek help for the crime , as well as making others aware of the risks. This also impacts LGBTIQA+ people, where the myth is abound that only women can be the victims- which is far from the truth. I would emphasise the specific barriers t…
/r/MensRights23/11/25 01:20 PM
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So. I think that if gender is an option it should be an option for all. I know here (in Australia) there is another company - I dont know if it uses the same algorithm as Uber but its Shebah? So you can book a female driver for adults or children to be taken. I think that dash cams/ cameras would be helpful for all. I’m not fussed about the gender of drivers- but i would imagine that the numbers would be closer to 90% men, 10 % female drivers (and yes, there are no statistics for this- just anec…
/r/MensRights23/11/25 12:36 PM
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I will go back to Australias issues do pale in comparison. Cause honestly- there are sommany intersecting political and structural instabilities and power plays in your depiction of South Africa. How the fuck are people meant to be surviving let alone living or thriving in situations like that. It seems like the only way forward is to gain through deciet. The corruption, the pitting of people against one another. Fuck. I can see how gender is just one of many interacting factors within the SA la…
/r/MensRights23/11/25 11:37 AM
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Forgive me- I really don’t know much about South African politics (as i mentioned above). I’m just going to do a quick dive into SA politics (the cliffs notes version) to get a bit of an idea of the landscape. (Just so I can get some direction- I won’t give an opinion on something that I am only “reading” about, because I am not stupid enough to think that any article will give any idea of what lived experience would be ).
/r/MensRights23/11/25 09:34 AM
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How or when did I say that men don’t deserve safety ?
/r/MensRights23/11/25 09:14 AM
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Yeah, i think the corruption and bias is more subtle (and realistically less), what issues were you wanting to hear more about ? What country/perspective are you coming from ?
/r/MensRights23/11/25 09:11 AM
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Huh ? Who is saying that men aren’t deserving of safety ? Violence is largely banned ? Isnt it ? I find violence towards men and women to be taboo regardless of the perpetrator. I’m not sure how that then follows that “males are violent” but the reason is Misandry. And this Misandry causes men to be violent by constant harm and mocking them for being harmed ? Can you explain what you mean by this ? Or give examples?
/r/MensRights23/11/25 08:54 AM
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Thanks for your thoughts. I’m old. I don’t care if people up or downvote me 🙃. It probably is odd that I respond on this reddit. But I don’t necessarily agree that everyone on this reddit hates (i am guessing you meant women?). I THINK that we need to be careful of that framing. What i have noticed both on subreddits like this, and similarily womensrights style pages. There is certainly a group of people who don’t have any regard for the opposite gender and hate them all (often there is not much…
/r/MensRights23/11/25 06:08 AM
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Agree. This is absolutely horrific- those poor boys (now men). I understand that they received a state pay out/ but the injustice stemming from not being able to hold her personally liablevia criminal or civil convictions must be heartbreaking. Its difficult to comprehend the interpretation of this law, i know that it occured a great many years ago, in a different time and context, and there is more information about psychological harm now. However, surely proving that child abuse wouldnt be kno…
/r/MensRights21/11/25 07:35 PM
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Yeah- totally acknowledge (and acknowledged prior) that I don’t know the nuance of the criminological drivers of the South African crime situation. But yeah, from what I read thats a part of the problem. Im in Australia, and whilst there is certainly corruption, judicial and criminal justice bias, and imperfect laws / courts/ and police structures that target, punish and treat people discriminatorally. It pales in comparision from what occurs in South Africa. I have no doubt openly corrupt polic…
/r/MensRights21/11/25 06:58 PM
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Deleted my initial comment cause the viseo and “baited” title dont deserve considered thoughts. Sheesh- i just watched the rest of it and wanted to add. This is such a biased shit video, which shows nothing- but your title also shows a bias too. Asides from the initial vox pox, women are judged for their apparent fawning for attractiveness, with evidence of women fawning for celebrities etc. The last half is some dude throwing hate on every feature of a man’s face and physical self, and rating t…
/r/MensRights21/11/25 06:49 PM
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I think that the most recent rates in my country are reflecting a lack of progress or change also. But, this is also difficult to measure in short term metrics , as increased crime reports does not necessarily equal increased crime (instead it may be a reduction in barriers to report). Societal shifts can be difficult to measure (and algorithms dont help this) Sadly, the courts and “criminal justice” system offer highly flawed responses, regardless of the good intentions of many (not all) partie…
/r/MensRights21/11/25 05:27 PM
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I have read their webpage, I have searched for greater statistics online about gendered and general crime rates in South Africa, and have looked into drivers of crime in South Africa- all because a random person on reddit mentioned this movement. Thus, showing in part the impact of what their messaging is doing- bringing awareness to the scope of the issue in South Africa, at a time when political and global attention is focussed there for the G20. I think that case an objective - awareness and …
/r/MensRights21/11/25 05:16 PM
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The murder rates in SA are immense, your post drew my attention to them. I don’t necessarily disagree, it seems that the general rates of murder need to be tackled far more rigourlessly. I’m wondering about the drivers of crime in SA though. Are they gender based ? Or deriving from poor governance and crime response, poverty and inequality, racial tension , proliferation of firearms, gang or organised crime ? There are many drivers of crime- whilst some of them have greater impact on certain gen…
/r/MensRights21/11/25 09:06 AM
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If you could link the peer reviewed article link, you know that may give it “any” credibility, rather than “ angry blog post “ from someone stated as fact, I’ll be happy to check it out…
/r/MensRights20/11/25 11:07 AM
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Your linked article was about animal behaviour, and your title “ … practises “now” rule the west “ implies this as a new thing. Not a 25 year old article (about female animal behaviour) from an journal about ummm…. Animal behaviour.
/r/MensRights20/11/25 10:36 AM
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Bahhahahahahahahaha… Bahahhahahahahahaha Bahhahahahhshshahha Thank you for sharing this very relevant article ( published 25 years ago). Which is not about female human women. It is from a journal labelled “animal behaviour” about literal animal behaviour. I mean at this point… if this is the level of critical thinking involved in women bashing, that you are concerned about female seals, baboons or goats abandoning their male counterparts… then go you, you animal activist you,
/r/MensRights20/11/25 09:42 AM
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I think sometimes it is the “discomfort” and outward manifestation that is important, and important to share. In my country there is a “red nose” day where people wear a ridiculous plastic nose to bring attention to sudden infant death syndrome. I wonder whether part of it, is sitting with the discomfort, in an open way that invites discussion? Mental health is uncomfortable, and it shouldnt be, it seems like there is more awareness around it which is important. Maybe use the annoyance and disco…
/r/MensRights20/11/25 09:28 AM
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Interesting point. So, if i were to post an article about Hannah Clarke, who was burned to death by her husband alongside her daughters and male child - we should discuss the societal issues because of the male childs murder.
/r/MensRights19/11/25 09:27 AM
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Its not a “tragedy” about a broken human. Its a tragedy about 2 beautiful boys killed. So yes, genders swapped. Remains the same.
/r/MensRights19/11/25 09:18 AM
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How was this a money making exercise? She was also attempting to unalive herself, so not so much “starting over.” This is not feminism.
/r/MensRights19/11/25 09:16 AM
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Hardly. Like the story above is horrendous , and a tragedy for the loss of those beautiful children. But, the statistics are not on your side here. Both men and women are capable of doing terrible things.
/r/MensRights19/11/25 09:14 AM
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Its easy to think like that in groups like this, and other gendered rights groups, where there is a monotropic vision on these issues. It’s why its important to jump put of these groups, talk to irl people, touch grass, read comment sections on funny cat videos, and surround yourself with good things in the world.
/r/MensRights18/11/25 09:23 PM
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Different country here. But same financial difficulties in obtaining affordable housing (via either rent or purchase). So no, its not hard boundary. But… I would be considering what that looked like within the home. Are they (male or female) a fully fuctioning adult living in the house and contributing ? (Ie. Doing own laundry, capable of cooking etc, being part of the house like a roommate instead of a teenager). Cause one is a financial situation (saving money) and the other is a dependence si…
/r/MensRights17/11/25 06:00 PM
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100 percent agree. I live in a country where the rates are far lower (and decreasing) for MGM. But faced great pressure to perform this mutilation on newborn child due to religious reasons. The pressure came from all genders (within this religious group). The rationale stemmed from “its just what we do” to (resoundingly) a boy should look just like his dad- how would it be explained?, its unclean or the (medical one- from actual doctors)- it reduces the chances of UTI’s. This was a point of so m…
/r/MensRights15/11/25 07:34 PM
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It could be argued too that in some circumstances, when a man stumbles, it may also be blamed on feminists, or women generally. The division is really the issue. Genders should not be pitted against each other. However, it is also a reality of privilege in society. I can simultaneously believe that there is a male priviledge, but also acknowledge that there are serious and devastating issues that impact the health and wellbeing of men. I can also recognise that as a white person in a western 1st…
/r/MensRights15/11/25 08:15 AM
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And the alternative… how hard it is to prove that someone did?
/r/MensRights15/11/25 07:00 AM
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Often because of the space and context they occur in. In drunk driving generally, they need to be able to prove that you were a. Driving and b. Had a BAC of a certain amount (via breath and later blood testing). These things would generally be given by either law enforcement or medical personnel (either after an accident / or being pulled over.) Whereas in a sexual assault- the “physical” evidence (dna/ or bodily fluids) may be evident regardless of the existence of consent. Even elements of bru…
/r/MensRights15/11/25 03:08 AM
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Those stats can’t be used to say its a 96 percent false allegation rate. The reasons conviction rates are lower does not equal “it never happened.” There are many factors that go into it ; difficulty proving something beyond reasonnable doubt, people withdrawing claims because of the difficulty /brutality of having to go through the information again and again (this is harder for people already discriminated against by police etc), people withdrawing claims because they go back to abuser (cause …
/r/MensRights15/11/25 01:37 AM
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