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And framing it as men in general, is in fact misandrist because it implies men in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:19 AM
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I don’t think so. We have an *urge* to pro-create, because nature wants us to. Not necessarily always an urge for the children that comes from the act of pro creating. Besides, there are plenty of urges humans ignore for the obvious reason it doesn’t work well in human society, like violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:18 AM
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“(This post is an answer to another that said that sex is or should be a reward, I don't hold this worldview and you are not getting any good place with that mentality)”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 01:16 AM
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I don’t claim to speak for any of the variations of feminists, so I have no idea. I was speaking of misandry, not feminism. They can overlap but not necessarily. I’m guessing you missed the part of my reply where I said OP said he doesn’t have this worldview and it’s satiring the original post.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:38 PM
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Correct. That was my point. Not everyone in either gender is going to be as transactional as the person I responded to is making it out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:36 PM
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You quite literally said “you guys”. Can you confirm for me what my flair says rq?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:34 PM
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I was explaining to you, why when someone indicates when women become independent, men lose their domestic servants, one may take that worldview and assume the person holding it is misandrist. I am not heated, you were defending it, so I clearly was responding to you defending it, not generalizations you didn’t make. Thanks for telling me you fuck your husband, i’m pretty sure that’s what happens when one is married so, I most likely could’ve assumed that for myself, appreciate the odd clarifica…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:31 PM
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And you seem willfully blind to the fact that the post itself is a response to an equally ridiculous post and that OP notes that he does not seriously believe his post. Are you that blind you can’t see he’s making a point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:21 PM
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That’s not how you frame any of your posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:20 PM
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You can use all the apohrisms you want, it just further goes to show you have no interest in good faith debate and make over arching assumptions about men, hence, the misandry.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:18 PM
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First, that’s an assumption and you believe every woman on here who says she is happily coupled or married. That in itself is kind of foolish. Second, yes, it’s not surprising that people who struggle to date come to a forum that talks about dating dynamics. Third, there are plenty of non incel men here, myself included. Finally, if so many of these women are happily partnered and have no complaints about dating, it’s disturbing they are coming on here to seemingly bully men they perceive as inc…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:16 PM
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Yes, but when you’re constantly on social media, it’s going to exaggerate every negative thing that exists in society. there are far, far less gold diggers or people who approach relationships transactionally than social media would have you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:13 PM
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“You guys tell us all the time we have no other worth than as maids and sex objects. Hard pass.” For starters, try debating the person you’re replying to rather than whatever caricature of men you have in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:11 PM
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I don’t care who calls me what. You’re all stuck in your own little worldviews and refuse to debate in good faith. It’s frustrating to come on this platform and have people just refuse to engage on what the platform is for. Most of the men and women are equally as sexist and hostile to each other and have warped views.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:09 PM
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Doesn’t make you not a misandrist when you have misandrist worldviews. Are you a downvote spammer? How pathetic. That’s against sub rules, you know that right?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:07 PM
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It’s misogyny when he was directly responding to a misandrist post? It’s clear this entire post is comparing what that post was doing by making another ridiculous post that OP acknowledges is a bad view. Maybe read the entire post next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:06 PM
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It is well known what men find attractive in women. Thin waist, wide hips, perky breasts, not overweight, long legs, etc. Men prefer certain traits in general, just as women prefer certain traits in men. This has been well studied.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:04 PM
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When you say men, people assume you are taking about men in general (shocker!). So yes, the way you said it is indeed indicative of a dislike of men because you assume men in general want a domestic servant they can have sex with, and that is why they want a partner, which is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:03 PM
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I don’t know nor do I care who you’ve talked to before me. Grouping someone in based on their sex is in fact, sexist. So you do dislike men, thus proving my initial point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:01 PM
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I don’t know who you’re talking about but watching some mentally ill 19 year old and then super imposing his views onto everyone you debate online is wild. It’s something called bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 11:00 PM
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I would argue that it might be slightly higher but most likely on average not above replacement.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:55 PM
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A woman defending another woman who makes a comparison of marrying a man to being a domestic servant indeed has some deeper underlying unhealthy view of men. Does your husband know what you think of men and how vindictively you view them?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:54 PM
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That’s not at all my point. My point is the way she framed men hiring help to replace them as domestic servants is dripping with misandry and a sad way to view relationships with men, but hey, that’s her choice. She can live like that if she wants to.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:53 PM
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Right, but the real thing will most likely never happen because it would look really bad for said country internationally to do that, not to mention a large portion of their own population most likely would not agree with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:49 PM
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Another bitter vindictive woman on PPD. You guys are sincerely just as bad as the incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:49 PM
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That is an interesting read, but nevertheless, I am positing that these women have higher fertility rates within their own communities in their new country, where cultural pressure still does exist. Immigrant women who have no community and are married to a foreigner may choose not to have as many children, but that’s speculation. I can’t know for sure unless i saw the data, if it even exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:48 PM
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The EU would accept the men as well if ukraine let them leave, but they need them to fight the war. It’s not selective refugee acceptance.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:46 PM
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No, my point was, even if there is no name to it, if someone is spending a significant portion of their day watching MRA stuff or vice versa for women, they have clearly felt fundamentally wronged and are consumed with thinking they are continuing to be wrong by someone or something in society and need to find some way to cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:45 PM
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Yes the culturally incompatible immigrants. I’m sure they aren’t just kicking out the men, are they? And again, no european countries are making it policy to import mass amounts of young women to boost birth rates. The ukraine war was an exceptional situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:20 PM
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Do you have the source on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:17 PM
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Not necessarily. Some re-married and had kids because that’s what people do sometimes. Others just got jobs and integrated into society. That the ones that didn’t marry men from the native country are going to get kicked out is still conjecture on your part.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:16 PM
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Immigrant women with immigrant men do. Do you have the stats on the amount children immigrant women that don’t have any familial or cultural ties to anyone in their new country have?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:14 PM
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You’re right, they will most likely have already or will apply for citizenship as they have built lives in said country.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:13 PM
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This is also why men like sexually favorable traits in women that indicate fertility.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:10 PM
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You’re spot on and he’s just wrong, but dear god please just stop with the metaphors.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:06 PM
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What a bitter and vindictive take. I hope you learn how to like men some day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:03 PM
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Yep
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 07:01 PM
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You don’t know that, that is pure speculation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:59 PM
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So what would you say most women versus most men want in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:59 PM
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I think your theory that immigrant children will have considerably more children once introduced to a western lifestyle is probably incorrect. On top of that, if they divorce, they’re not going to get deported once they have the green card. Also, it seems like it’s not being widely utilized as most men still have no way of meeting these immigrant women. There were 49k of those visas issued in 2024, and most of it was still backlog from the pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:58 PM
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That was an extraordinary situation in which Europe felt obligated to let Ukrainian refugees. If that’s an incidental by product of that, then it’ll happen. l No european country is going to deport them out if they don’t marry and have a child.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:54 PM
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Ah okay, yeah looks we came to the same conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:53 PM
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Okay I guess criticize was the wrong word. More so you stated that’s what women want. I think plenty of men, even in relationships, just like the sex and want women for their bodies, and the reverse of course is also true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:52 PM
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Yeah i’m usually not on guys side but that’s wild thinking any government would actually do this
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:46 PM
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A lot of men desire sex and women’s bodies. You’re criticizing women for wanting men’s bodies. If women desire men’s bodies in this scenario they are desiring men exactly like me desire women, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:45 PM
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Probably because that would look very bad for said country and most likely hurt them considerably diplomatically, while at the same time not knowing if it would actually work or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:43 PM
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Anyone who is obsessed with consuming particular content from any side “sphere” on the internet maybe needs to take a break from it and re-evaluate why they need to watch the same things over and over again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:41 PM
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It is somewhat but not completely linked to cultural moral fraying. I am a hypocrite because I partook in it as a young 20 something who was horny and just wanted to have sex, but I see now how foolish and risky it is, as well as emotionally numbing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:36 PM
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While I agree with pretty much everything you said, you don’t find an ounce of satisfaction of an attractive woman finding you impressive enough in someone to sleep with you? I’ve been there and in my opinion it most certainly does feel good in the moment, but it also 100% meaningless after.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:34 PM
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Don’t men literally do the same thing to women’s bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:29 PM
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Everyone is selfish and hypocritical, you’re just finding that out? That doesn’t just apply to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:28 PM
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It’s a biological instinct to crave female validation, but I agree it’s long overdue in modern society that men at least try to move past “getting women”. All men when they’re young want to sleep with a bunch of women, but past that, there’s not much use in constantly chasing female validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:27 PM
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Actually, a lot of those methods don’t work much to boost birth rates. It’s much more so a cultural phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:20 PM
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Human beings are much more complex than animals kept in captivity first of all. The rat Utopia experiment is vastly over cited as a parallel to modern society, although I would agree western societies do have a serious problem with being overly hedonistic. However, i’d like an explicit chain of logic that connects people that don’t necessarily want children and being psychologically unwell from you. I fail to see how People overriding base instincts to procreate equals psychologically unwell.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 06:19 PM
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It’s wrong but not entirely surprising. They are human beings and humans tend to be selfish and vindictive
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:57 PM
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The amount of people defending andrew tate is kind of funny and sad
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:54 PM
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Maybe they could if women like you could spell better
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:52 PM
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As has been said over and over again, you really should try to meet people out and about by striking up a conversation coincidentally. When you make it your mission to approach strangers a lot of people can pick up on it and it *does* feel weird. Better yet, meet acquaintances or mutual friends at social events or go on dating apps. It’s not super surprising that people dont necessarily want complete strangers imposing on them in a situation where it is not appropriate to do so at all. Just know…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:44 PM
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If the woman doesn’t put in the same amount of effort then the relationship isn’t worth it, it’s a pretty simple equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/26 02:40 PM
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Pre-selection is real. A lot more people would be happy if they didn’t care what other people thought about their partner and just were happy to be with someone only based on what they themselves think of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 05:46 PM
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This is spot on. Couldn’t have said it any better. Society has been built on widespread monogamous pairings. I’m by no means “all of society will collapse if men don’t get wives”, I just think weird things will start happening like men just will stop seeking higher education and employment at higher and higher rates, women will become more and more bitter etc. A big motivator for men biologically is to have a mate, even if it’s subconscious, and if modern society both makes life to easy and make…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:16 PM
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That is because you’re reasonable. Men or women going for people significantly out of their league are not going to usually get good results. It’s not impossible, but, there are always ulterior motives usually. If someone is happy being single if they don’t get the hottie, by all means, they should be single. But personally, I am of the opinion most people actually do want a solid relationship with someone to navigate life with even if they aren’t the hottest person ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 03:09 PM
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Yes I do. It’s too common for the women on here to spam report comments they don’t agree with to reddit. I have no reason to be better or expect better from women like you on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 08:05 PM
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Now you’re going to report comments you don’t like. So typical. You can’t argue so you report, go figure.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 06:12 PM
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All of your projection about men wanting instant access to sex is just that, projection. And yes, in nature the physically strong dominate the weak, that includes women. When did I balk at that? That is how things were. That is nature whether you like it or not. Men didn’t have to coerce women for sex in the majority of cases because women needed protection from hostile groups of men from another tribe. Women thousands of years ago would do the same if they had the physical advantages of men. Wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 06:09 PM
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Not necessarily. Women will happily destroy society for their selfish interests. That’s been shown again and again. I’m not backing down from anything. Something that is in nature is not good or bad. It just is. Judging what hunter gatherer tribes did by the “morals” of today’s society is foolish and doesn’t make any sense. Why do so many of you go to the casual sex argument and strawman about being with every guy that wants you ever? That’s not the argument and it never was. Excusing problemati…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 05:19 PM
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They never respond to grounded, empathetic takes like this one. Women like her come here to try dunk on men they perceive as unworthy of being treated with compassion for god knows what reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 04:48 PM
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You are really projecting this free use whore thing. Is that your kink? Notice I never said beat and brutalize women. You’re adding on all of that. I said dominate which means be authoritative over. There is a reason for almost all of recorded history women were subordinate to men. What’s your explanation for that? The truth is, it is built in. You can’t claim women’s sexual advantages were built in and then deny that men’s weren’t, that’s not how this works. There have been countless studies on…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 03:19 PM
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The worst part is i see it all the time. They constantly use appeal to nature arguements to justify the things they do and why things are the way they are, but if you point out that women were subordinate to men and largely dominated by men through all of history because they were much physically weaker they’ll ask why you want women to be dominated by men just so you can get a partner, completely missing the point and putting words into your mouth. Every single time. Watch for it next time you …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:25 PM
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You are so over the top and hyperbolic. If you want to use the evolutionary argument than it is built in for men to dominate women and women to be in subordinate roles like all of history. After all, women are much weaker on average. Stop using the evolutionary argument if you aren’t going to use the entire thing. No one is talking about you specifically. This may shock you but no one here cares about you specifically. You’re not important. Hence why I said you all. You justify why men go to bla…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:21 PM
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Well, look at a lot of them. Chronically on reddit arguing with strangers. Does that seem like something a highly desirable woman would do? It is even more interesting that most of them claim to have boyfriends or husbands. A few years ago before I quit reddit the first time I caught one in a lie and she just essentially admitted to making things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:17 PM
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You’re not debating anything. Anytime someone makes a counterpoint you deflect or say they are off topic. So yes, you are whining about men, not debating.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:14 PM
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No, he wasn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:13 PM
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Most of them don’t meet their own standards. Honestly, if most of the guys here got laid, they’d realize most women aren’t worth the effort that it takes to keep them happy and would just go back to jerking off. Seldom does a woman attractive and reasonable/not annoying enough come along that makes the effort you put in to win her over worth it. The women on this sub think very highly of themselves. At best most of them are probably middle aged plain janes, and at worst, they are overweight, una…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:21 AM
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The selective appeal to nature arguements to dismiss equality they use, to then turn around and say they should be equal to men in xyz regards despite that being absolutely illogical in nature truly is a level of cognitive dissonance i’ll never understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 02:17 AM
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You all are so dramatic with your descriptions of how you don’t find men attractive, and then you’re actually that surprised more men turn to blackpill and redpill when most of what they see confirms the beliefs you call misogynistic? It honestly just shows most of you operate in such bad faith shifting how you argue depending on who you happen to be talking to that day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:07 AM
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It’s always hilarious how they only want the equality when and where they define it. It’s absolutely fucking retarded. Nothing should be equal. They only like deciding what should and shouldn’t be equal when it benefits them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 01:01 AM
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No, women and men should not be equal in all respects. In fact, if you want to use the evolution argument, we should just goes by the laws of nature, and whatever happens, happens. You all need to stop using appeal to nature fallacies unless you want to consistently apply them, it’s pretty stupid. Society should be run by the capable and competent, if women are capable, great, if not, oh well. We should let nature take its course.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:59 AM
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This entire thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:57 AM
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Women also feel entitled to be treated the same as the more attractive slim women as well. This goes both ways. Most men aren’t going out of their way to impress the average somewhat overweight plain jane. She just isn’t worth treating like that unless she has something else going for her that makes a guy want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:55 AM
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Yeah most men will not just date anyone even if it means they stay single. The guys on here are giving some of the women absolutely warped perspectives on how most men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:54 AM
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They conflate the men saying they won’t put in effort for women that aren’t worth the effort as incels saying they’re “giving up on women”. Remember a lot of these women most likely aren’t worth the effort to date in real life whether it’s because they aren’t attractive or are neurotic as fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:53 AM
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I hate using the term chad, but actually becoming that level of desirable is out of the grasp of most men no matter how much they’re hitting the gym or improving grooming. But the degree to which they state you need to be chad to date is obviously way overblown.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:49 AM
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To women worth said effort they do. Just like women date men they deem attractive enough and worth their effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 12:48 AM
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He pointed out a comment directly countering your assertion. So it’s female hypocrisy and double standards at play. Women have not “deconstructed” men’s gender norms at all actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:57 PM
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Wasn’t my advice chud, keep trolling ✌️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:53 PM
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You’re not wrong but at the same time I do feel like if you show up at a book club/yoga or running clubs women are already going to be suspicious/wary of why you are there. Might be one of those things you have to regularly attend for months before even trying to make friends with women there without them suspecting an ulterior motive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:35 PM
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I mean I guess he’s just trying to give you advice for how you could possibly meet women. If you don’t like the advice, don’t take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 09:33 PM
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This is all true, but honestly a lot of this boils down to just not being a desperate, needy, bitch. You can 100% be yourself while not showing a girl how desperate you are for her attention, double texting, being super agreeable to everything she says. I hate “texting games” but honestly as a guy, you really do have to show a girl you’re not really super invested in her and care that much before a certain point, regardless of whether you change yourself or self improve or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:09 PM
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This is not really correct. Plenty of avery’s women struggle to find a decent girl. It’s multi faceted and it’s not because of a “chad” but the problem does exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:02 PM
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I made a comment about this but tbh the first thing I ask people when they complain about meeting people is what the dating scene where they live at is like. If there’s not a ton of rec leagues or activity clubs and one overly relies on dating apps we can get an idea of the problem right away. Most people don’t have massive social circles that they can meet endless partners from. Sometimes you get lucky and meet a mutual friend and hit it off but that comes down to luck. Dating apps can work but…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 08:01 PM
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I mean of course there is some weight to the complaints that guys have that women are in fact increasingly more demanding/delusional in their standards but to be honest that’s only one part of it and it is way too focused on. It’s there sure but it’s not preventing whole swaths of men from dating completely. A very important factor that I seldom see brought up here is location. If you’re in the suburbs of a small city or just in a smaller city in general you’re going to have a drastically harder…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:53 PM
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Yeah bitter women like yourself really give great advice
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 02:47 AM
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It’s a good thing she wasn’t asking you
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/26 02:46 AM
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Your reading comprehension is that bad? The state of public education where you live must be lamentable, i’m sorry about that :(
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 10:23 PM
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The fact that you’re going on tangents about chad and manipulation and using a ton of emojis and can’t help but to keep responding even more confirms you’re butthurt. Keep it coming ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 10:17 PM
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Because I stumbled on it and commented on it? You seem really upset about this for someone who doesn’t care. If you didn’t care you’d simply stood responding, so obviously you are emotional and bitter about this topic. If you have a life you wouldn’t spend time responding to a reply on a 5 day old comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 09:59 PM
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Whatever you need to do. Sorry that fact apparently upsets you. Nice edit, you apparently changed your entire comment 5 comments after this one, such a sneaky gal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 09:54 PM
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Yes your over the top reaction is proof enough of that. Women are mad they are easily replaceable with porn unless they actually bring something to a man’s life that makes his life actively better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 08:46 PM
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Right, anyone can see the emotion and bitterness just by the way you’re responding and the way you frame it. You consistently seek to frame it as exploitation, hence validating his original comment about women like you being bitter and emotional about the topic. Porn is better than chasing after mid women who don’t bring much to your life tbh. Only women that actually bring something to your life and are somewhat attractive are worth the effort. It’s basically the same thing women say about men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 08:17 PM
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It absolutely evokes bitterness. The way women get so animated and and emotional about it proves as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 07:00 PM
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This is fairly accurate I would think. It feels good to be desired to a degree regardless of what you are being desired for. Even if you never care to partake in whatever you’re being desired for. If men only ever went after women they actually wanted to commit to, women would not have 8 snaps from guys waiting to be opened, 400 unread messages etc. And there would be a lot more female incels as they wouldn’t even get the chance to try to be with the guys they actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 06:55 PM
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Women absolutely filter for looks first. They take other things into account sure, but they filter much more similar to men than women like to admit usually. It’s also hilarious seeing these “prove thyself bootstraps” attitude from someone who is a pseudo communist.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 06:51 PM
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