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Mothers will rely on their instinctual feelings, right or wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 05:03 PM
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Excusing what? Excusing a mother's protective instincts? We live and walk on this earth because of the protective love of our parents and ancestors. This affects me. I'm (63m) widowed and childless. I love children, but I know better than to show any affection towards a stranger's children because I'll be immediately assumed to be a perv. I understand why this is and accept it rather than advocating fruitless attempts to change human nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:41 PM
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Women spend much more time with young children than do men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 04:15 PM
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All the feminist bullshit about "equality" goes out the window when a mother is looking out for her children. The question is not whether all men are predators. The fact is that a man is more likely to be a predator than a woman, and mothers instinctively know that. Feminist theories on sexual equality are counterfactual intellectual constructs advanced for political power. Parenthood is real.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/24 03:48 PM
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Should? According to a code of ethics you made up? We are better off adjusting our lives to what is rather than what should be. Men are genetically evolved to select partners likely to remain loyal because our ancestors that did not were naturally deselected by raising other men's children. The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. Women that lacked discernment and discipline in the past are more likely to lack it in the future. There is plenty of research to show the correlation b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/24 09:03 PM
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Your assertion is more definitively worded than it should be. You wrote, "...fatness shows a lot of negative traits, like a lack of composure, self control..." You overstate the correlation. Obesity may be related to those things, but it's also (like height) related to genetics as well as other traits such as age, gender and child bearing. It is more difficult for women than men to lose weight, more difficult for older people than younger people to lose weight, and particularly difficult for old…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/24 04:41 PM
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Why do people care about the age differences in other peoples' relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/23 07:02 AM
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You wrote, "...I believe that the lifestyle only truly suits a minority of people who are able to divorce sex from emotional attachment..." Many people start to divorce sex from emotional attachment because they engage in hook-up culture, but it's not something they can flip on and off like a light switch. I would not want to be married to a woman for whom sex was divorced from emotional attachment and many men feel the same way. That's why body counts matter to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 05:59 AM
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Engagement ring?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/23 02:49 AM
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Asking for money for every purchase is demeaning, and that has to be addressed in even the most traditional of marriages. My wife of 36 years is a traditional housewife, but she's always required of me an allowance that went beyond just household expenses. We both feel free to make purchases of a few hundred dollars, and we both feel compelled to consult the other for larger purchases. E.g. I would talk to her before purchasing an expensive woodworking tool, but not a minor one. She wouldn't ask…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:52 PM
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It was rhetorical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:49 AM
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How does a woman know all that about a guy from the three seconds she spends looking at his photo before she swipes left?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:21 AM
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I'm old, 62M. How is it that in the 1980s, young men and women paired up "two by two," but in the 2020s young women say most men are too inferior to date? It's the same species; same genetic code. Have the men changed that much? Or has the Internet inspired women to develop unreasonable expectations?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/23 07:04 AM
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This calculator approaches it wrong to give you a more alarming answer. It tells you how many men among all the men match your criteria. I don't think that's what you want. You likely want to know, among unmarried men age 24 to 54, how many match your criteria? Putting the filters on for "unmarried" and "24 to 54" by itself eliminates over half the male population, but you probably don't care about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/10/23 05:11 AM
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If she doesn't want a man, her tortured reasoning doesn't much matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 08:37 AM
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I'm 5'8" and consider myself short. If you had sex with 25 women, how do you figure that women won't have sex with short guys? Or did you get them all young, before the found the hedonistic nirvana of tall men? I get it that women prefer tall men, among their many, many preferences. They are wired that way, just as men are wired to prefer slim fit bodies, adequate breasts, and pretty faces. My own sense is that men are even shallower than women in their preference for visual physical attributes.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 07:02 AM
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(62M) You wrote, "It seems like after women have sex with enough tall guys, they can't go back." OP, is this statement totally sourced from your own experience? How extensive is that experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 06:47 AM
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You are trying to draw lessons about women's general behavior by citing anecdotes from the extremes for both men and women. The reason we know about guys like Bundy, Watts and Kohberber is because they were so abnormal. Ted Bundy was remarkable because of his ability to exude warmth and charm as he was engaging a woman and planning her murder. The reason we know about the women that wrote them love letters is because they were so abnormal. They are interesting as behavioral freaks, but not usefu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:07 PM
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How long have you been married?
/r/RedPillWomen07/10/23 07:03 AM
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Birthrates are down and you want to lower male libidos?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 04:41 AM
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Men are always assumed to be the predator.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/23 02:56 AM
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No doubt. I know some who don't want their marriage to last another minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 03:17 PM
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Red Pill is uncompromising, inflexible. A marriage won't survive that. (M62, m.36yrs)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 04:03 AM
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It's a cultural variation of an embrace.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:43 AM
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Chest heaving, back arching, eye gazing, turning towards, are instinctive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:27 AM
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Generally, behaviors are either instinctive or experiential. I.e either we were born with the behavior coded into our being, what OP calls "evolutionary," or we learned it from socialization or things that happened to us. I'm male. Nobody taught me to read a woman's body language, to lean in, to hold her gently for the kiss, and to appreciate the way her body melts as her muscles loosen. It's wired into me, and I like it. I did, however, get better at it with practice and criticism, so the behav…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/23 02:10 AM
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Who is your grievance against, who will adjudicate it, and who do you expect to compensate you for it? Life is not fair. Women are not perfect. (Men are pretty fucked up too.) Best to be realistic and make the best of what you have. That's what TRP is really about.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:27 PM
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It was true for me (62M). I had a hard time getting a date in my twenties. In my forties and early fifties I was often hit on even though I was married and couldn't respond. That has subsided since then.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 10:23 PM
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OP wrote, "Hypergamy is never ending..." That is correct. Women are genetically disposed to hypergamy to various extents. OP wrote, "...there's no way to win." That's bullshit. You don't have to be a billionaire or start twenty businesses to meet and mate with a good woman. However, you do have to get your ass in gear and make something of yourself. Play the game and score some points. Whine about the game and score nada.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/23 07:46 AM
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The 80/20 thing didn't start with dating apps. Back in the 80s I knew a couple of guys that could and would go out any night of the week and reliably get laid. They were good looking, likable and funny, but not rich. Mitochondrial DNA studies have supported the assertion that a small minority of the men have always done most of the mating. It's always been that way. The apps, Internet, birth control, and the unraveling of societal norms have supercharged and exposed what has always been part of …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 11:25 PM
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Correlation is not causation. A man generally has to have his act together and be in command of himself to attract and bind a mate. He generally has to have his act together and be in command of himself to stay in shape. However, having a mate won't keep him in shape. His health and mating are both manifestations of his genetic fitness.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/23 10:18 PM
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This explains why my wife chose me.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 06:51 AM
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It's always been that way. Many of the best mates, men and women, are taken out of circulation and held tight to. If you are dating, then you are working with the remainders.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:08 AM
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My late grandmother (b. 1900) used to say, "every generation thinks they invented sex." Men and women are genetically the same now as before. Only our environment has changed, and we aren't navigating it very well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 09:11 AM
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Correct and agree on all counts. I"m old. We are not genetically wired to navigate a world with apps, birth control, global STDs and the Internet so many of the younger ones are unnecessarily destroying themselves. It's heartbreaking to watch. I still think most women are good. TRP is too rigid, too inflexible for a long-term marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 08:55 AM
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(M62, married 36yrs) Most women are honorable. Good women are not rare, not unicorns; they are the norm. Not perfect women, but good women. TRP is about men defending themselves against against the minority of women who are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 06:35 AM
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Crucially, when you strip away extra language the findings were for people who cohabited before they were engaged, not just before they there married. I.e. if a couple cohabited after engagement their odds of divorce do not increase. I'm 62M, married for 36 years. My wife and I moved in together when we returned from our honeymoon. Our first few months were rocky. It seems in retrospect that it might have been a good idea to live together for awhile before marrying. It would give the couple a ch…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 05:19 AM
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My (62M) wife is foreign-born. We are different races. She gave up her career when she married me. She supported me like you described for nearly four decades. Every day when I left for work she had a lunch prepared. My clothes were clean and the house was in order. She followed me to live in five cities in three countries and her support was consistent, always the same. Even when she was pissed off, she continued to support me while showing her anger in other ways. She sometimes held jobs. E.g.…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 07:20 AM
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We live in an age of equality under the law but women's genetically-inherited sexuality still hasn't changed. Nor should it, thank God.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:14 PM
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If a woman is talking about a man she calls him "insecure" and "controlling." If she's talking about the exact same behavior in herself she says she "does not accept disrespect" and "sets boundaries." They are the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:39 AM
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Maybe she'll find her man with six divorces, seven kids, and an eighth-grade education.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 11:04 PM
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Best line of the day: "I think the number 6, 6, 6 is terrible...greed, vanity, lust." Perfect characterization. I'm gonna use that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/23 10:45 PM
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A constant theme here is that younger men and older women have it rough in dating, and many of the aggrieved here are younger men. Check out r/DatingOverForty to read the older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 03:17 PM
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WTF? I (62M, m.36yrs.) met my wife in 1983 when I had just graduated from college and had very little money. She rode on the back of my motorcycle when I didn't have a car. She stayed at my side for a lifetime and followed me to live in three countries and three U.S. states. Now we are prosperous and financially independent. She is in the next room watching TV. Why on earth would I want to leave the love of my entire adult life? This makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:26 AM
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I don't think we're far off. You mentioned the "Judeo-Christian" tradition, but Jewish traditions began well before Christianity, and can be seen as a response to the Hobbesian dysfunction of the violent Old Testament world. Further, while Jews may have been among the first to advocate monogamy, the tradition of lifetime commitment, i.e. marriage, is apparently even older than Judaism.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 09:43 PM
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The statistics came din the Urban Institute. I have you the link. Talk about "lazy ass." You can't begin to debate if you can't live with facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:40 PM
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For the life of me, I don't follow what you are implying that race has to do with this discussion. Men are more violent. That's a fact; we are collectively more violent to women and more violent to men. Men's violent tendencies explain many of women's obsessive security behaviors, particularly when engaging strange men. More specifically, young men are violent: "...adults between the ages of 18 and 24 were the most likely to be arrested for violent crime...Men were nearly four times more likely …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 08:22 AM
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Men's outsized representation in violent crime is a statistical fact in every society, every country. It is overwhelmingly part of the human condition and always has been, but is also true for most primates and many other mammalian species. The purpose of "PurplePillDebate" is to discuss these things factually.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:46 AM
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Hannahg, you aren't totally wrong. I'm (62M) appreciating that as I get older the extent to which my penis rules my life is diminishing. Most of the truly dumb, dangerous or hurtful things I've done in my life were driven by my lower-lower brain, the beast, and it's kinda nice to gain complete mastery over myself. Bob: "It says here that men think about sex every 17 seconds." Bill: "What do you think about the other 16 seconds?" I find that my post-menopausal women colleagues are also usually mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:19 AM
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The consequences of promiscuity are more acute for women than for men. - Women can get pregnant - Women are more likely to be harmed by a man than vice versa - Men are more averse to committing to a relationship with a promiscuous woman than vice versa. - Some studies indicate women are more psychologically affected by promiscuous sex than are men. We attempt to advise, inform, explain and debate these facts to our young in the hopes they will develop self-restraint and make wise decisions. I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 07:01 AM
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I have a colleague that is so proud of his four sons. I need to show this to him; it definitely explains why he doesn't have daughters. -- The 1:1 sex ratio can be explained by it being advantageous for the species if excess males are born and then fight it out so that only the fittest mate. Cultures and religions impose rules on us, such as monogamy, which discourage the constant combat of feral humans. This was necessary for humans to transition from small nomadic tribes to civilizations with …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:52 AM
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(M62) Men are the biggest threat to women, and to other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 06:34 AM
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Japan's trains are very crowded at rush hour and most people are standing up very close to each other. You have to reach your arm up for a handhold. The train cars are often so crowded that you may not even be able to turn around; it's an environment made for a groper. Unfortunately, they do have a groper problem on Japan's trains. Women's only cars seem like a nice solution. However, they are often less crowded allowing everyone a seat. With a finite number of cars on the train that means the r…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 05:49 AM
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If they want it they'll work it out themselves. We don't need to tell them. Telling them to do an ONS is not helpful. If they can't lock down a girlfriend they probably can't lock down an ONS. There's another alternative besides escorts. The young men could lower their standards. There are lots of women who are not genetically blessed with beauty or they never broke the code on fitness. Many of them would love a man to love them. Or they could do what many are doing. They are putting off their s…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 04:34 AM
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Thanks, I missed that. Strange urge to give advice where none was asked for. I'm pretty sure that every 25 year-old virgin has thought through their options.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 02:03 AM
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(62M, m.36yr.) Why? What is to be gained for the older virgin from meaningless sex? Are you just giving advice on how they can be more like you, because you are awesome? Is this your humblebrag disguised as big-brotherly advice? Or can you articulate some intrinsic benefit for the older virgin to have disconnected sex? Why is it our business what they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 01:49 AM
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You wrote that one of the only ways to gain "leverage" is to "become more attractive (limited options since face and height are not something that one can greatly influence)." (I would say "influence" and not "leverage," since leverage is often used against the will of an adversary.) I'd argue that men have more options to increase their influence in relationships than do women, and should appreciate that. A woman's influence is more tied to her physical attractiveness than is that of a man, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/23 12:23 AM
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"...she would constantly complain about men she knew or celebrities she didn't find attractive having "unwarranted" confidence, and that she found it extremely grating when an ugly guy acted like he was cool or hot." The mistake in your reasoning is your believing that she is not attracted to men that she finds grating or ugly. Women sleep with confident ugly assholes all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/23 08:55 AM
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Once you have a baby everything will work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:20 PM
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Come on. My advice was worse than 7/10. I'll try again: She'll change, but she's waiting for you to wife her.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:09 PM
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What she did before you doesn't matter. She's ready to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/23 06:01 PM
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She'll be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:30 AM
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It would never get to that point. That's not a woman I would ask on a date. Ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 08:15 AM
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Everything she does on the first date is early information about her. I agree that her requesting you pay for her Uber is a little excessive. She should get herself to a point where she feels safe meeting you. However, if she asked for it I probably would pay for it on the first date. She may have a good reason for it. If it's a $18 ride I wouldn't give a damn. The reason she Ubers instead of you picking her up is because she's not yet comfortable divulging her address. That's OK; women have to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:51 AM
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(62M, married 36yrs) Men could say the same thing, but many won't. I wouldn't. I'm old, and I'm not dating any woman who is not my wife, but if I did date it would be from my own framework of traditional masculinity. I.e. I'd propose a couple options for her, arrange the date, pick her up if she felt secure with that, hold the door, etc. After she gets comfortable with me, I'd appreciate if she'd hold my arm when we walk together. My paying for the date is part of that framework. It's not about …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 07:13 AM
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Absolutely. But many people now meet on OLD, and many women are reluctant to tip out their home address to a man until after they know him well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:49 AM
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Listen to all of them. Figure out for yourself which ones are full of insight or full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 06:35 AM
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(62m) Younger men can also learn a lot from older women. Not bitter hags. Pleasant realists. They probably haven't done it all, but they've seen it all. Listen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 03:20 PM
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Oh my! That's a strong opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 05:11 PM
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From a practical standpoint, I'd be unable to share my health plan or survivor benefits with my partner if she was not married to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 07:46 AM
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I'll respond to one thing before I go to sleep. You asserted that a women can't be a complete father for a young man. I agree. My father left when I was three. My mother tried very hard, broke her back to fill all roles but sometimes admitted she couldn't. I was fortunate to have gone into a corner of the military where I was surrounded by healthy male role models, solid men who led well and loved their families. Most of my peers had come from whole homes. I learned much of what I had missed, a …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 08:38 AM
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Ouch. OK. That hurts because it's true. However, we will compromise all manner of good sense if a woman looks good. We can be easily "turned on" without being touched or even spoken to, purely visually by a woman's display. And we relentlessly pursue beautiful women while ignoring less visually-attractive women who would often make better life partners and mothers. We are visual to the point of being stupid. (Did I tell you how hot my wife is?)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 07:44 AM
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True enough
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 07:36 AM
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I'm (62M) long-married old man, so I have no experience dating a woman not my wife for four decades. That said, a number of your postulates do not fit me. "Most men would agree that marriage ... without kids its pointless." I don't. I've been married for 36 years without kids. We can't say "we are staying together for the kids," so we have to admit that we stay together because we love each other and can't live without each other. Many of my work colleagues are middle-aged women, both married an…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 07:34 AM
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Personally, arm hair or a little armpit hair on a woman doesn't phase me. Otherwise I prefer hairless but don't know why. That said, leg hair or other hair doesn't gross me out; just not preferred.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:44 AM
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So what about hairy legs?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:42 AM
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I agree that showing their legs didn't mean they had to be hairless. They knew that men liked hairless better. That brings me back to the title question: Why do we men prefer women with hairless bodies when it's not natural? What is the evolutionary reason for our preference for hairlessness? I don't buy that it's all marketing or neoteny.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 06:41 AM
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I (M62) remember women and girls who had faint musctaches used to get defensive about it. We never hear about that any more, I suppose because laser treatments or something have eliminated the issue. In the 1970s, as a high school freshman, I had a small beach catamaran, a Hobie 14. I invited a girl to go sailing. She was a good looking girl, Italian if I remember right. She took her shirt off and was wearing a bikini underneath; she had a hairy chest. I had never seen such a thing; didn't know …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:13 AM
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My legs are furry like a sheep's wool. Keep me warm in winter.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/23 12:05 AM
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The chix at Woodstock were apparently going for the homeless look.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 11:35 PM
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I love it. Thank you for the reference. I'll read that completely later. I'm a man. No matter how much you marketed, you could not convince me that shaving my legs is masculine to sell me your products. Gillette could not have convinced women of this unless they were pre-disposed to believe it. Marketing and propaganda (including, unfortunately, hate speech) always work best when you are working with popular predispositions rather than against them. So blame Gillette, but it was the women that d…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 11:21 PM
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There is no "center" to the human race, so any benchmark is as good as another. It's like when I studied languages. We can measure the distance from Mandarin Chinese to English in terms of learning difficulty, and the distance from Mandarin to Thai is much closer, as is the distance from English to German. However, there is no central language from which the learning difficulty of all languages can be measured.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 11:13 PM
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Fair enough. But men do find smooth legs attractive even if we don't know why. One of the things that has always intrigued me is that women have a much better sense of what men find attractive than men have of what women find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 11:11 PM
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Wow. Thank you for this. I always like to be corrected with references. I'm still skeptical that the differences in products justifies the differences in prices. I am a hairy white guy who lived in Beijing for several years on two occasions. I found the local shaving products to be wholly inadequate for my beard. I had to pick up supplies in the US on my return trips. A barber shave is usually a pleasurable experience. I shave every work day so obviously I can do it myself in a few minutes. Howe…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:52 PM
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OK. Hard to debate this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:44 PM
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You are correct. I am racially Euro so that tends to be my benchmark. I live in a majority-Asian area. We are in the tropics, where people wear less clothes and so body hair is readily apparent. And I am married to an Asian. She has no leg hair and has never shaved in her life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:43 PM
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Maybe so. I'm inclined to believe that the CEO was bullshitting when he said women's razors are more technical and expensive to produce than men's razors, which are used on the face every day. The real answer was, "because we thought we could squeeze more money out of the women, like we do with women's soaps, clothes, and other products."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:39 PM
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I'm male, and I find smooth, hairless, well-formed legs to be very attractive. Women apparently know that men like smooth hairless legs because they go through a lot of effort and discomfort to shave. But my question was why do I like smooth hairless legs when that is not the natural state of women? Gillette didn't do that to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:35 PM
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Women started shaving down under before the Internet porn explosion, and they started shaving their legs a half century ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:28 PM
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Thanks. There is another commenter that illuminated the effect that testosterone and estrogen have on body hair. He explained that testosterone makes it grow thick and straight, while estrogen makes it thin and soft.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:25 PM
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Who buys their shit?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:22 PM
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-- Good point on the ancient Greek sculptures. -- I live in the tropics and am balding. I'd appreciate some hair just for walking to my car. -- I don't know about Egyptians -- "Asians" are such a broad category that the word is nearly useless. Northeast Asian men (Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Mongolian) depicted in the historical dramas my wife watches on TV have long hair which they bundle up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:20 PM
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Congratulations. That's wonderful.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:16 PM
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It's not society. It's our evolved nature. Women look for competent, confident, affirmative men to provide resources and protection while they are vulnerable in pregnancy and with children. A man's leadership of the relationship is part of his job interview.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:13 PM
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Thanks. That seems to be on-target.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:11 PM
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Edit: Several commenters have theorized dimorphism, porn and neotony. Dimorphism, yes. That's just a big word for what we are discussing. The Internet porn explosion happened several years after women started shaving down south, and a half century after women started shaving their legs. As I stated originally, I'm not buying neoteny as anything more than a partial answer.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:08 PM
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I've heard that men generally had long hair until the industrial revolution. Men that worked in factories started wearing their hair shorter because it could become fatally caught in machinery. Short hair became a fashionable marker of a man with a steady income.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:04 PM
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Newborns are on average a pound heavier than a half-century ago. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3310964/#:~:text=Infants%20born%20after%201970%20were,than%20infants%20born%20before%201970.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:03 PM
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Yes, human female breast are far larger than they need to be to produce milk. Women with small breasts nurse just fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 10:00 PM
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Women began showing their legs in public in the 1920s, creating a demand for something safer than the straight razor. Women generally used men's razors until razor companies recognized they could color them pink and lavender, call them women's razors, and double the price. The men that did that understood women, but the demand came from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:54 PM
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Before the 1920s, men in the West almost never saw women's legs in public. Gillette responded to demand from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:48 PM
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I really appreciate your well-articulated insight on how culture fits into female attractiveness. I'm am old man-pig. A half century ago guys just didn't obsess over big butts the way they do now. It's not an evolved preference. And I agree; the bias of women towards long hair seems cultural. I'd argue that long hair is a decoration, like make-up and jewelry, and women decorate themselves. The tendency of women to self-decorate may be instinctive while the specific decorations (long hair, pierci…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:22 PM
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We men certainly are the visual sex, and women know that whether they like it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:13 PM
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women have been contributing to a slow drop in male body hair through sexual selection as well over time, That's interesting; hadn't heard that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:11 PM
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Thanks. I'm inclined to think this is in the right direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 09:11 PM
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I'm sure it happens as you describe. The question was whether it would be considered "predatory" or should just be regarded as rational economic coordination for both men and women, young and old.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 06:22 PM
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Part of the problem is that we use value-laden words rather than objective ones. E.g. women "set boundaries" while men are "controlling," when both sides are actually doing the same thing. They are influencing their partners. Without such influence, boundary-setting, and mutual control, there is no relationship. It's just an acquaintance. In the case you cited, if 70-year old men were coordinating to drive down the price of a girl at the car wash, wouldn't that be predatory? Is it only predatory…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 05:14 PM
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Go to r/sugarlifestyleforum and read awhile. The manipulators and predators are often the young women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/23 08:14 AM
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Attribute it to growing up, brain development, post-adolescence or whatever, a man of thirty is generally much more in control of his sexuality than a man of twenty. I agree that men often give in to cheating under the right circumstances. That's why the key to fidelity is to anticipate and avoid those circumstances. "I went to the hotel bar, had two whiskies, met an interesting girl who was alone, invited her to my room to talk, and it just happened. Couldn't help myself." Idiot. Why did you go…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 08:55 PM
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You missed two key points: We men grow older and more responsible in our twenties as our raging adolescent testosterone levels settle to something bearable. We learn to control our swinish tendencies because most of us truly want a long-term monogamous relationship. Humans are genetically coded for some pretty awful behaviors; it's not all socialized. Ethics, morality and religion are our efforts to rise above our genetic coding. I (62M, m.36y) went through all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 06:59 PM
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Men aren't just socialized to be promiscuous, we are genetically disposed to it, especially when young. We have to consciously learn to not be promiscuous in order to sustain a relationship. Men are pigs. Women love us for it, until they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 06:05 PM
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I'm the man in the house and I put my wife in her place once she gives the order and directs me to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/23 09:31 AM
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My (62M) late grandmother (b.1900) used to say in the 1970s, "every generation thinks they invented sex." Simps, Chads, Alphas, whatever fuckall have always been with us, along with 304s, cheaters, carousel riders, wife material, unicorns, etc. In the twentieth century we referred to them by other words. Our genetic coding has not changed; only our environment is different with prosperity, birth control, long lives, the Internet and the Apps. The new environment favors some new behaviors over pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/23 08:54 PM
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YES! (Sorry for shouting.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:51 AM
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Direct, clear and polite is preferred: "No, thank you." or in the extreme, "Please don't contact me." Not preferred, "I have other plans" when you don't have other plans but can't bring yourself to say "no." Ghosting or ignoring is rude.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 03:41 AM
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I'm not a red piller, but I think you are mixing up what they would call an "alpha" with a "Chad." They'd tell you that women want to mate with alphas, strong confident leaders, but due to poor judgment many end up mating with Chads, attractive, predatory man-whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 05:27 PM
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I doubt the pollsters captured the sugar and adulterous relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:08 PM
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More young women are in relationships than young men. Many young women are in relationships with older or married men, or men that have multiple girlfriends.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 04:27 AM
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Girlfriend had dumped and humiliated me and I was in pain. Other girl cheered me up but made it clear that's all it was, no relationship would come of it. She definitely helped me forget. Restored my confidence. Very therapeutic. And why did I agree to it? Come on now!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 03:49 AM
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Not a woman, but I've been the recipient of a sympathy fuck. Always appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:45 AM
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My (M62, m.36yrs) wife gave up a good career to follow me in my nomadic career. If I had failed her she never could have had that back. She took an enormous risk to marry me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:57 AM
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Wait! The first half is easy. She doesn't want the heaviest 4.5 months. We need to project fetal growth to ensure absolute equality of carriage as measured by pounds carried per day.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:54 AM
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Good catch. The article is long on assertion and anecdote while being short on evidence and data. Marriage correlates to long life and happiness among men but correlation is not causation. The same traits that make a man successful, healthy and happy are also going to help him attract and hold a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:47 AM
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Sometimes it's a matter of dressing appropriately or not dressing badly. I'm always amazed at guys that will go out in board shorts and flip-flops and then complain that the women are all too stuck-up to talk to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 07:22 PM
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Absolutely not. (I'm 62m; my wife is very frail. I'm healthy but not going anywhere for as long as we both shall live.) But if a healthy wife is denying her husband sex over an extended period of time she is putting her marriage at risk. Effort matters in love.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 05:18 PM
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Have you ever met a man who said sex was a human right? Have you ever met a man who said he was entitled to have sex with any woman? Your made three statements, "sex is not a need" followed by the two ridiculous assertions above. Your logic seems to be that since the second and third statements are obviously not true, then the first statement is not true simply because you grouped them together. Logic fail. Sex is needed for marriages to succeed. If a woman does not want a long-term relationship…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 10:21 AM
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(M62) Nearly all healthy men have a little Chad in our soul, but most don't act on it because we are constrained by ethics or lack of attractiveness or opportunity. Likewise, nearly all healthy women have a little hypergamy in their soul and are sufficiently attractive, but most don't act on it because they are constrained by ethics or lack of opportunity. The apps now give them the opportunity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:57 AM
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"I told her it felt a bit sexist..." LOL. A healthy relationship between a man and a woman is inherently sexist. If you want equality then marry another woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:56 AM
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"Many divorces are too unique to fit into a category..." I've seen so many divorces around me over the last half century. My parents divorced when I was three (before it became fashionable), and three of my four siblings have divorced. I agree; there seems to be an infinite number of ways that marriages go wrong. However, I am guilty of most of those and yet my wife has stayed with me. Divorce "experts" tell us that there are two reasons for divorce, money and sex. When I look at the divorces ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/23 12:01 AM
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"Do you think it's problematic for [some] men to prefer petite women?" It is no doubt problematic for big and tall women. I'm a short and homely man (fortunately happily married). Do you think it's problematic for women to prefer confident, tall and handsome men? Does it mean they have unresolved issues of erotic attachment to their fathers? Does it mean such a woman is a broken submissive perv? Or is it just the nature of female Homo sapiens sapiens? Her business and not ours? Where would we th…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 09:04 PM
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Name checks out.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 08:51 PM
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It depends on what they want. If the high-value man wants to optimize baby-making for maximum distribution of sample halves of his particular deoxyribonucleic acid pattern, then the the 21yo is the way to go. Might even go with 18. She could potentially squeeze ten or fifteen critters out before her gynecological warranty expires. But if an accomplished man is looking for a companion, partner, and lover to share his life, he could be looking well north of the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 07:13 AM
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(I'm white American, my wife immigrated to the West from Northeast Asia. We've been together four decades.) My sense is that SEA and Eastern European women are on average behaviorally pretty much the same as Western women. However the average passport bro is not likely to meet an average SEA or Eastern European woman. The average SEA or Eastern European woman does not speak English well enough to rely on it as a primary language, and does not go to the foreign tourist areas that passport bros vi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 03:15 AM
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My woman of 40 years is thirteen years older than me (M62). She was not looking for a cub, and I certainly was not looking for a MILF/cougar when we met in 1983, when I was 22 and she was 35. I looked older and acted more assertively than my age (and was shorter and homelier than most), and she looked much younger than her age (she was an Asian beauty). Our acquaintances didn't know our age gap. Our relationship was so unusual that we didn't have words like cougar, cub and MILF in our relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/23 02:47 AM
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This question applies for more than just a dating context. Men also need to be careful to make women feel safe in the workplace. I (62M) have only dated one woman for four decades, my wife, and I assure you she is not afraid of me. However for nearly half a century I have often had to interact with women professionally. I don't think they fear I will kidnap, stab, murder or sex traffick them, but men do coerce women for sex, or retaliate against them if they refuse sex. Men and women also inveig…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 10:57 PM
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She did get some money out of it from her half of the house equity. That hurt the husband because he had built the house largely by hand over a period of several years, and her bid for equity forced him to sell it. It was a beautiful house on a cliff over a mountain lake. His building it was tied to his romantic notion of a good man building a place for his woman to raise his children, but that seemed to have been his dream more so than hers. (He was not abusive, manipulative, controlling, or an…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:47 AM
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It was an observation that some women initiate divorces because they are bored. Not all stories have morals at the end. Some on this thread asserted that women divorce because men cheat. Others wrote that they divorce because they think they can trade up and get more. I've seen that in many cases women leave just to try something else. It's up to you to decide whether that's "more virtuous or less shallow" than other reasons. Sometimes I read the r/adultery subReddit. There are a dozen or so dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:35 AM
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thelajestic, it seems so clear looking back now, but it took us by surprise then. His wife was such a beautiful, loving woman. None of us saw it coming, including him. Once she had made up her mind to leave there was no convincing her to stay. Their divorce was as amicable as a divorce could be, and they continued relations right up until it was finalized. I also had a dynamic career that had me traveling the world. However, I was often able to bring my wife with me to live in places like Bangko…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 11:29 AM
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I (62m, married 36yrs.) have never been a woman and never divorced. I guess that makes me an expert on why women initiate divorce against faithful good-provider husbands. Men close to me have had their wives divorce them. Les-Lanciers-Rouge in a separate comment asserted the "biggest reason why women break off relationships is because men cheat." That may be a major reason, but it wasn't the case in any of the marriages that failed around me. Nor was it that their wives became physically unattra…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 09:49 AM
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insensitiveTwot, it would have been helpful if you had started by explaining your concerns, as you did here, rather than starting off with ad hominem insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 07:28 AM
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OP asked, "Why is the sub have at least some men telling women what they are attracted to?" A long-running motto of the r/AskMen subreddit has been, "we don't know, but we'll answer anyway." We wouldn't want to disappoint.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:49 AM
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A truth as universal as gravity is that words spoken to break up are spoken to influence the counterpart, not to convey truth. E.g., the person breaking up usually wants the other person to go away without grudges. In that case they'll fabricate an excuse such as, "I'm too busy," "It's me, not you," etc. Sometimes the person breaking up wants to inflict pain, perhaps for revenge. They'll say something hurtful like, "you're a loser. Nobody would want you." Sometimes the person rejecting is perfor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 05:43 AM
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In age-gap sugar relationships, the older male is giving money to the younger woman. Who is exploiting who?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 08:04 AM
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I disagree with your assertion. When "a man struggles with dating, romance, or sex," most people assume he is unattractive or unassertive. He may be socially awkward or immature. He might be gay, and not want a woman. The last thing that well-balanced people might think is that he actively hates women because true misogynists are very rare. They exist largely in the fevered minds of indoctrinated feminists, who describe every man that rejects or disagrees with them as a 'misogynist." Mentally he…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:59 AM
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(62M, married 36yrs.) People cheat more when they are young. College-age men and women cheat wantonly. Most people grow up. Paternity tests are often cited as evidence of widespread cheating. You'll see claims that 30% of paternity tests are negative; i.e. the tested male is not the father. However those claims are made from highly biased sample sets because most people only request a paternity test if paternity is in doubt. When the population as a whole is tested, the percentage of tests showi…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/23 07:44 AM
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(62 male, long married) JustBeingMe426, you wrote, "anytime I end up paying for myself the man was never really interested." That sounds horrible, but at the same time I believe it. I'm with you on this, not OP. I'd split a bill with colleagues, but then the dinner does not have the vibe of me being the host and welcoming my guest. Generally I don't like the vibe of calculating the split (incl. tax & tip), communicating the cost and then moving the money around. My own unfashionable preference i…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/23 07:17 AM
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(I'm 62M, married 36yrs.) As with most sexist or racist rants, there is actually some truth buried under this misandrist rant, mixed in with a helping of outright falsehoods strung together by yoga logic. She doesn't help her argument by comparing men to dogs, Nazis and detritus. Our frustrated overweight feminist OP has a poor grasp of history likely because she has lived so little of it. She is the mirror image of the angry young males who insist that womanhood must change rather than explore …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 07:23 AM
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The opposite of love is not hatred. The opposite of love is indifference. If the male purple-pill participants didn't love women, they wouldn't be participating. They'd be doing something else. They are participating precisely because they do love women, albeit with some frustration sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 08:19 AM
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No. Not at all. There is no reason for men who haven't managed to find love until their 30s to remain single. If a man is living right and digging into his career while young, he hits his prime in his thirties and starts to develop the capacity to carry a bigger world than himself. If he's working out, he evolves into the confident and gnarly grizzled bear that women find attractive. That does not mean that he should settle for the AFBB left-overs. He can become picky, unlike in his twenties, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:04 PM
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Man's perspective: I could not stand to wait to be picked. I am the predator. I choose my prey, even if it means I have to pay for dinner. Which leads me to another rant: I pay for dinner with a woman because I enjoy having dinner with a woman, NOT because I'm offering a transaction. I don't suffer through an expensive dinner in the hopes of getting lucky at some later point. I like a good rib-eye steak, medium-rare, with creamed spinach, garlic mash, mushroom caps, big quaffs of red wine, perha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:14 AM
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Women are genetically disposed to prefer to mate long-term with men who earn more than they do. A man's career and his ability to provide are a part of their identity of him, the total package that they love. Men do not view women's careers the same way. They can appreciate the earnings she brings. They can be happy that she finds something fulfilling, but they aren't invested in her accomplishments. These genetic biases were naturally selected because the burden of childcare fell on women as ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:54 AM
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I'm feeling ornery tonight so I'll take a contrarian position as a creative writing assignment. The fuckboy that walks up and says "wanna fuck?" does so for two reasons: He thinks it may work. While you are filtering him, he is filtering you. He is quickly sorting the players from the relationship girls so as not to waste time. The reason he thinks it may work is because it has worked for so many before. Women train hot-as-fuck Chads with riz to be fuckboys by rewarding them for their bad behavi…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:39 AM
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OP, you have such an objective way with words. There's also lots of guys that would get in that pool with a 300-millionaire.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:05 PM
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Most fathers leave their families? Where did that come from? Women initiate the overwhelming majority of divorces.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:23 PM
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Our genetics have not changed. Be careful that you don't end up only taking relationship advice from those who have only failed at relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:39 PM
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"Women have always been hypergamous..." Exactly. So the problem isn't the hypergamy. That's a part of women that is innate. It can't be fixed. "...online dating doesn't only deliver visual impressions..." True enough, but the visual impression remains the primary filter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 05:17 AM
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This doesn't make sense. The participants in online dating, i.e. men and women, are the constants, not the variables in "the problem" to be solved. Their mating behavior is genetically driven and cannot be changed. Women have always been hypergamous. They prefer tall men with deep voices, and appreciate confidence, competence and prosperity. Men have always been promiscuous. They prefer women that appear fertile and appreciate caring and sbumissiveness. Likewise, the ratio of men and women in th…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 03:32 AM
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I agree 100%. What I wrote only applies to IRL.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:29 PM
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You wrote, "if no women finds you sexually attractive enough to have casual sex...this likely will mean that women will never be sexually aroused by you." I (62M, homely and short) sharply disagree based on my own life experience. If women were only attracted to male attributes like height and facial symmetry, this might be true. However women are attracted to many attributes in men beyond their physical appearance, and these other attributes are the ways in which men often grow as they mature. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 01:51 AM
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You mean all this time we've been planning this "main project" but it's already done? Who knew?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 03:57 PM
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Yes. It's a giant conspiracy, "one of the main projects of western civilization..." Us men are discreetly coordinating over Discord how to keep women at home and down on the farm. But now you've blown our secret, and da' bitches are gunna be pissed when this gets out.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 07:15 AM
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Doesn't "trans" already mean the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 05:27 AM
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TRP helps me better understand the behavior of women. I use that knowledge to build a more stable and durable bond with my wife and other women in my life. TRP recognizes that men and women are fundamentally different and emphasizes understanding the average genetically-driven behaviors of women. However TRP is flawed in that it assesses women's behavior against a standard of the average man's behavior. I.e. men behave they way they do because men are correct; TRP describes how women differ from…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 10:02 PM
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You make so many assumptions: -- not wannabe geriatric, we are geriatric now -- her family was richer than mine; she was a diplomat when I met her in the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:30 PM
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Just saw this; thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 08:32 AM
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I'm an asshole and immune to social stigma.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 07:26 AM
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Is this about all age gaps or just age gaps where the man is older? I (62m) was robbed from the cradle at the tender young age of 22 by a middle-aged woman of 35. Waa! Just a baby. (Do your math; this was 1983.) She was gorgeous, I was homely but aggressive, and we both knew what we wanted. But we were responsible enough to recognize all the reasons it could never work. Besides the reverse age gap we were interracial, international, and spoke different first languages, to start with. After awhil…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 06:33 AM
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Susan Patton caught hell for saying something like that a decade ago: https://www.scribd.com/document/360800655/Susan-Patton-Letter
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:23 PM
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It's nonsense. These are scare stories made up by progressives because banal reality does not give them the drama they crave. Women are not prosecuted for miscarriages in any state in the nation.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 10:22 AM
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I (62M) can't speak to dating in my 30s since I've been with the same woman since I was 22. She was gorgeous when I met her in my twenties and guys would hit on her if I wasn't right next to her. She would shut them down like the Hindenburg. The pressure on her diminished after a decade or so and then women began hitting on me in my late 30s, and hitting on me a lot in my 40s and early 50s. We were married so it was to no effect, but many of the women didn't care. They knew I couldn't/wouldn't g…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 09:57 AM
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I've (62m) been married 36 years and have never thought my wife found me physically attractive because objectively I'm not. I'm short and homely. She has often told me I'm sexy and good looking, but I can tell that women are not drawn to my looks. She is, after all, a female Homo sapiens. She has encouraged my fitness, praising me and expressing appreciation when I keep my weight down and muscle tone good, but I've never had women get wet looking at my skinny forearms or listening to my high voi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 10:48 PM
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One of the immutable rules of the universe, unwaveringly true as gravity, is that anything said to break up or reject is said to influence, to shape the moment, and never to accurately inform the person being rejected. I.e., she said what she said to get you to go away without being mad. It had nothing to do with the truth of why she turned you down, so you cannot analyze it for lessons learned.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 05:57 PM
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(M62, same woman for 40 years) I'm not following your argument because both Mackenzie and Lauren Sanchez are beautiful women that have aged exceptionally well. Your point is about physical attraction but you can't prove it by these two ladies. You'll have a hard time making the argument that Mackenzie Bezos let herself go. One of the universal truths that all married and divorced people agree on is that the only two people that truly know what happened inside a marriage are the two people that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:40 AM
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I have been with the same woman for 40 years. She's an East Asian foreigner, a different race than me, and English is not her first language. I've lived in two East Asian countries, speak her native language, and have traveled extensively in the region. The three objections against international relationships that you cited are crap, as you say. The women are no more exploited than other men or women in relationships, they aren't all gold diggers, and it's not immoral. Simply put, foreign women …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 07:17 AM
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You've got it backwards. Sex is not the problem. The problem is all the other stuff we must do which keeps us from loving all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 01:02 AM
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My wife gave up a good career and married me (62M) 36 years ago in Honolulu. She followed my career to Bangkok, Boston, Beijing (twice) and San Diego, before settling back in Honolulu. She fit in work where she could, doing everything from medical coder to property manager to visa clerk. However, none of that was as good as the career she gave up. It worked for us. However, it's a high-risk strategy for a woman. It could have gone very badly for her if our marriage had failed. My father left my …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 07:58 AM
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I'll bite. My (62M) best years were in my 40s to early 50s from the standpoint of attractiveness, as measured by women hitting on me. I was fitter, more successful, more visible. I did nothing and women came to me. (They were shooting to no effect, was and am married.) I felt invisible in my 20s. I had to bust my ass to be noticed at all. My current wife was the rare woman who took me seriously. We've been together 40 years. But I'll also challenge the "wall" narrative about women. I understand …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 05:38 AM
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Dr. Barash asks, "Why did such a large segment of human society switch from polygamy to monogamy?" His theory is that, "Western society in particular inculcated monogamy as a trade-off, whereby powerful men essentially agreed to forego the obvious trappings of polygyny in return for a degree of social peace and harmony. Monogamy is part of our egalitarian ethos..." I acknowledge the validity of the question but tend to reject theories based on the egalitarian ethos of societal leaders. Rather, I…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 02:54 AM
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If academic degrees were all that made one qualified to understand life, we wouldn't have so many unhappy psychologists. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psymon-says/202302/why-are-psychologists-at-greater-risk-of-suicide
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:48 AM
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The female equivalent to “man up” is motherhood. Hear me out before you downvote me. The phrase “man up” is an exhortation for a man to put his hopes, his ego, his comfort behind him, to drop his concerns about fairness or equity, to endure the pain and focus entirely on outcomes. “Man up” is the equivalent of “STFU and get and get it done.” Is your team behind but your uniform is still clean and you have no scratches? Man up. Is your girl pregnant even though you still haven’t seen all the coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 01:38 AM
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I agree with your thesis that women are outcompeting men in academia and in initial careers. However men surpass women within a few years, in part because many women drop out of the workforce or cut back their efforts to raise children. That's already been researched and the data published. However I suspect your anecdotal evidence of what you saw at the shopping plaza this morning may reflect sorting. You described women as if they were dressed to shop for perfume at Macy's. Go to Walmart and y…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 05:16 AM
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I'm not following either of your theories. "Hypergamy" in women is an instinctive behavior. It has evolved over the life of the species; hundreds of thousands or millions of years. Many of our behaviors predate our species and are common among all primates, or even among many other mammals. To take it to an extreme, there are even birds where the male lays out a display of wealth (e.g. builds a nest) for the female who then makes a judgment about whether to mate with him. "The cost of having kid…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 04:39 AM
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I don't know probably because I'm too much of an asshole to care what people thought. I've never been shy to talk to women, and I've got reasonable game. I'm just not physically attractive. However I've got thick skin and handle rejection well. But I learned to stay away from women in packs. They'll eviscerate an unattractive man that dares to approach them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:44 AM
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No, of course not, your question is almost a tautology. To see that rephrase it as: "Is it wrong for a man to want a womanly woman? However many of the traits you listed are very culture-specific and only tangentially related to feminity. We men all have different ideals of feminity. Most of us like a woman that is sexually submissive. (Hate me for saying that, but I didn't wire us men; I just own one of the corpuses.) Most of us like a woman that projects femininity outside the home. It feeds o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 11:13 PM
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OP's post history indicates he is 6'4". 6-6-6
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 10:26 PM
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None of them wanted to date me in my twenties. I'm short and homely, and always sucked in group meets. Young women in groups are conscious of what other women in the group think, and I didn't come off as much in relative physical attractiveness. I (62m) am old and married now, but as a young man I had to play to my strong suits which were one-on-one conversation, displaying my competence and utility as a male, and being reliable (which actually turns off some women). I was not the guy that women…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 09:45 PM
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Having a preference is not wrong (unless it's for children or vulnerable people). Don't let anyone tell you who you can love.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:46 PM
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