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| 5 | Ladies - how do you feel about the supposed trend that men are cold approaching less often these days?I've gone through phases where I purposely got fat to try and make myself less appealing. See guys, she's just full of shit, dont' take the first post seriously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 02:24 AM |
| 1 | Women boasting about their boyfriend to their friends as it's an achievement.I mean, it's a good thing. Otherwise all they have to rely on is the physical attributes of a man to speak for themselves. A woman strengthens ties to a man by telling a story about how great he is. When she tells other people this story she's looking to have it reinforced | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/22 02:19 AM |
| 1 | Height statistics from Bumble; Is this your exp in OLDIt's important to remember teh OKCupid study that found their height distrubution of users was EXACTLY 2 inches shifted from the real distribution of height in the US. Meaning, no, the useres of OKC aren't taller, it means everyone self-reports/thinks they're 2 inches taller than they really are. This has been my experience in real life too as someone who accurately reports their real height. I'm 6'1'' and miraculously everyone else who is 6'1'' is shorter than me. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 05:29 AM |
| 1 | Two part question: Men, if you were a woman would you be a sex-worker? Women, have any of you seriously considered/have done sex-work?I'm fairly mid/below mid value as a man in my own estimation (and the estimation of women) so I see sex workers pretty regularly. I started with backpage girls. They're all drug addicts and most of them are low IQ. They're all low in conscientiousness. The local American white girls that do it all charge absurd prices. I didn't realize why this was at first but eventually it came to me. The South Americans that come up are hotter and they charge 400 an hour. A below average looking white girl ch… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/22 05:16 AM |
| 1 | Do looks matter more for males or females?Looks matter far more for men for sex and far more for women for relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/22 02:05 AM |
| 2 | Women's preferences in men are culturally engineeredWomen do like slim men. They also like buff men. You're acting like these are two different things when Arnold had a 30 inch waist Low Body Fat Lean Body Mass These are two different things. Danielle Hunter is 6'5'' 250 pounds, maybe 12% body fat I do think there might be something uncanny valley happening with bodybuilders and how their physique shows, but I don't believe at all that women don't find it attractive. The opposite, I think they're uncomfortable with how attracted they are to it. I… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/22 01:03 AM |
| 3 | Have you ever changed your mind on a man you initially weren’t attracted to?As a follow up, red pill theory would conclude, particularly in today's environment, that the majority of committed long term relationships women get into they would have not been attracted to the male at first. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 11:11 PM |
| 1 | The just world fallacy that good looking men never struggle to get their equivalent can easily be disproven by pointing to the countless heartthrob male celebrities who date and marry women older and less attractive than themI think it's pretty hard to say particularly because attractive high SMV men don't have to think about what's happening. It's very likely these women aggressively pursued them and the men just never said no. Jason Mamoa is 42 and got with Lisa Bonet in 2005 at 26. He then got her pregnant. they didn't marry for 10 years after the birth of their child and now they're split when she hit 52. It's entirely unclear how much they stayed together because of the kids. Nick Cannon left Mariah Carey when … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 07:37 AM |
| 2 | The True Importance of Men’s Height: a discussion/debateMy theory is that height is a non-factor from the perspective that it's a stand in for lean body mass. It's not so much that women are attracted to tall men as it is they're attracted to men that are bigger than other men. An inch in height is roughly 5 pounds of lean body mass all other things the same. So a 6'2'' guy has about 45 pounds of lean body mass free | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 05:37 AM |
| 1 | What trait(s) automatically puts a man above average?You mean what's weighted the highest? I've always said lean body mass | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/22 01:33 AM |
| 1 | Intelligence is not a positive trait if you want to have sexReddit can update the website to the word's shittiest re-design, but they cant' fix the fucking numbering system | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 10:35 PM |
| 2 | Intelligence is not a positive trait if you want to have sexPoints first STEM degrees don't just attract intelligent people, they attract intelligent losers. They attract intelligent people that need to prove their intelligence. High IQ people are more likely to chase status or money if they're well rounded/reasonably attractive. Even within the fields you have people bailing out into consulting and management roles, or people in Biochem degrees going on to be doctors or even lawyers. If you went to university you know that the kids in engineering and re… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/22 10:35 PM |
| 5 | Q4All how do you define virginity?HAVE YOU BEEN FUCKED | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/22 12:43 AM |
| 3 | The elephant in the room that women have attempted to get us to ignore: women are not attracted to genuinely nice guysThis isn't quite right. The Alpha Fux, beta bux dichotomy is real. When women are looking for cash they're...well at least happy to pursue men who are 'stable' and unlikely to cheat on them. I think it's fair to say women aren't attracted to men in a way that's meaningful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 04:22 AM |
| 19 | Avoiding CC and post-CC women is a matter of common senseI think the more a woman engages with the dichotomy of her sexuality the more pronounced it becomes. A woman that is riding the alpha chad cock carousel becomes incapable of appreciating her eventual beta bux mean ticket in the same ways she looked at her alpha fux. I think she's more likely to cheat too just because she's fully separated these things. There's a certain amount of healthy delusion that goes into long term relationships, Similar to how there's healthy delusion about death and heal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/22 01:08 AM |
| 1 | Why do small age gap relationships fare better?In the age case, I imagine the man is accepting a lower class woman who is hotter, and the woman is going for a richer man. The woman doesn't need to stay married to have access to his wealth, and the older she gets the more her beauty fades and cant' make up for her being a trophy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 05:20 AM |
| – | What is causing the rise in virginity amongst men? Is it too late for these men to reenter society after becoming a 30+ year old hermit outcast?There is one singular cause to men not having sex and that is women. Women decide when men have sex. This is the only reason and looking further than this as a starting point is ludicrous, though the media loves to talk about men choosing video games or some shit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 05:05 AM |
| 2 | Dudes should start approaching more average girls for better results.Then another interesting part is actually below average girls get hit on more than average girls because guys think subpar women will be easier. No - 10s probably do get hit on less probably do get hit on than 9s probably do get hit on less than 8s (in unfamiliar contexts), and 7s and 6s probably get hit on the most, but I think it's pretty linear decline from 7. The difference is that once you get down to 5/10 level men just become more explicitly sexual. If a man is paying attention to a girl … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/22 05:04 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadlate 20s are clearly showing aging over early 20s baby | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/22 12:26 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSo you're a woman worried about aging huh | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 05:21 AM |
| 1 | What’s your dating advice to the guys on here who can’t get success with women?Women are shallow algorithms that choose men based off their percentiles. It's solid, concrete. There is some weighting differences between women, but these are minor. The alpha fux/beta bux weighting is different, with a higher focus on status/money for beta bux and a higher focus on body size for alpha fux. These are just two different modes women choose in. So there are a few things you can do to improve your status with women lose body fat gain muscle get plastic surgery Obtain higher status… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI think 24-26 is where the aging process noticeably starts. 30-24 is just where it's undeniable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/22 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI think 30 is a good age where it's undeniable a woman used to be hotter (assuming she hasn't had massive weight loss etc). You compare that 30 year old to the 24 yo and you go, oh, the 24 year old was hotter. It's also an age where men will sort of filter out on dating apps. If you're a 36 yo successful man it's not unlikely your OLD age range is 18-29. To me I'd say the 'real' wall is late 30s, and that's where I imagine it just is impossible for women to get anything approaching a relationshi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 02:02 AM |
| 1 | I predict that the next generation after zoomers will all looksmax with the pressure on TikTok it is to look perfectI'm sort of, of the mind that young girls already look better than my generation because of this, but I could be wrong there as I'm not around young girls that much. Still peaking I guess, but only goes to 2018 and I'd like to see it broken down by race and sex. With so many kids latinos, and latinos the highest BMI demographic, I wonder if that's pushing it up a little too. With men being less active I bet the growth is more there than women. And I wonder if there's a bimodal distribution where… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/22 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Women earn the emotional pain they receive by creating and rewarding manipulative men.I wouldn't care at all because she'd still have the same exact behavior towards men no matter what she said. There's really nothing I can think of that's worth less than what a woman says about herself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Women earn the emotional pain they receive by creating and rewarding manipulative men.I'm just surprised that it doesn't in my case | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 10:47 PM |
| 1 | Flaws of the 80/20 ruleOf course there are many factors that women look for in dating, like charisma, career ambition, well-dressed, interesting, etc. No, this is wrong. Women are all on the same scale. The only place they differ is in what they're able to perceive. Dumber women can't perceive high intelligence. Dumber/low SES women don't really understand money and won't pick up on it unless it's flashy in most cases. Women all like the same facial features, they all like height, they all like muscles, they all like … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 08:20 AM |
| -1 | Women earn the emotional pain they receive by creating and rewarding manipulative men.I think responding this my comment that it's 'cringe' is cringier. Let's let the upvotes decide. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 07:57 AM |
| -2 | Women earn the emotional pain they receive by creating and rewarding manipulative men.I fucking despise women and often have revenge fantasies along the lines of them getting emotionally invested in me and me just ignoring them and fucking other women when I ascend to chadhood. In practice anytime I think any woman is interested in me at all where I don't think I can return those feelings I start getting worried that I'm going to hurt their feelings, often avoiding them so they don't form an attachment. I would say in practice I am extraordinarily sensitive to and caring of women… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 07:44 AM |
| 12 | Regarding rising 'sexlessness,' percentage of young people who've never had sex or a relationship do you think have never even made an effort?Part of The Red Pill/Black Pill is that 'making an effort' is a meme. You don't 'make an effort' because there's no effort to be made. Making an effort for an unattractive man is as sensible as making an effort with a garden fence. It won't look at you, it won't acknowledge you, it won't think what you say is funny, it won't try to encourage you to pay attention to it, it won't slip you it's number, it won't invite you to group events or get their friends to, and you won't be on the list for eve… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/22 01:22 AM |
| 2 | How long would the average guy have to hang at a bar/club for an approach/IOI?Not long Jordan Peterson was talking to a chimp scientist (primatologist, fine) and they described the mating behavior of female chimps being, that when she was ready to mate, she'd present to the highest status, then the 2nd, then the 3rd until someone fucked her. I don't really think the behavior of women is much different. Women are a little more aware of their status than chimps so if they're a 6 they won't run right up to Chad. They are at the bar/club to be validated by men, however, so th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 07:57 AM |
| 1 | If Eternal youth and aging reversal technology existed would older women be as desirable by men as chronologically young women?Roughly - But being more sexually inexperienced is highly valued, despite the chagrin of the promiscuous | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/22 07:52 AM |
| 3 | In those "catching feelings" scenario you experienced, was there already sexual attraction to begin with?My eardrums vibrate when soundwaves hit them and send signals to my brain which I learned to interpret over the first 4 years of my life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 06:14 AM |
| -3 | In those "catching feelings" scenario you experienced, was there already sexual attraction to begin with?Yes, exactly my point. Because you believe this and yet all women I know either treat attractive men 1.) Like they want to fuck them or, as tends to happen when the woman her self is less attractive 2.) Sour grapes It really makes me double down on my original stance. I think you are incapable of recognizing how being attracted to someone makes you behave. I think you, and women, feel a certain way, act a certain way, and then work backwards from your actions to attribute those actions to some p… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 06:12 AM |
| -6 | In those "catching feelings" scenario you experienced, was there already sexual attraction to begin with?Attraction and chemistry requires more than appraisal of a man’s appearance. In my observations of women, no | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 06:09 AM |
| 0 | Q4A At what height is a man’s dating life hindered?Probably because you're 5'8'' and lying to yourself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 06:06 AM |
| 1 | Q4A At what height is a man’s dating life hindered?Remembering that you all think you and everyone else is 1-2 inches taller than they actually are, 5'8''. 5'10''-5'11'' 6'0'' to Infinity No - You've barely ever met any individuals that are 6'6'' or over, and a lot of them that are, are physically hindered. Attractive 6'4''+ men are very unlikely to be in any of your social circles. My view on women is that if you have an 8'11'' physically fit guy that doesn't have like a huge head or crooked legs, just a normally proportioned 8'11'' guy, but th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 05:56 AM |
| 3 | In those "catching feelings" scenario you experienced, was there already sexual attraction to begin with?I've never experienced sexual attraction "on the spot", When women say shit like this it just makes me think they're absolutely clueless about what motivates their behavior towards men because they can't even recognize when they find someone attractive | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 05:49 AM |
| 1 | If you’re reading this as some who frequents PurplePillDebates, I challenge you to get below 11% body fat just once in your lifeThis works. It may not be accurate, but it's precise enough that it tracks great when I've used to when losing weight. I'd suggest it's probably 2-8% low, but it will always be 2-8% low | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/22 04:13 AM |
| 1 | What sort of "intelligence" are women attracted to?As Jordan Peterson says - there's no evidence that social intelligence or whatever bullshit you want to come up with is real, and that there is only IQ. That autistic kid in your class wasn't a secret genius, he was just autistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/22 02:35 AM |
| 2 | As a man, I think the men here greatly underestimate the fundamental advantages of being a man in society......1.) Statistics say men are more at risk of being attacked than women at night. Women being high anxiety doesn't make their fears real, and we shouldn't have to cater to their delusions. 2.) If you're an idiot you go around approaching women at night clubs first with no signal to come over. I mean if you're high value, then fine (you're not - your disdain for online dating reveals that), but the reality is the opposite of what you say. If you go up and try to talk to a woman who doesn't want to t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/22 02:06 AM |
| 1 | CMV: FDS women are in no position to have the requirements that they doWhen I read that sub it just seems like one huge Alpha Widow cope puddle. Of course, the worst parts of TRP (even the majority of it) are just men complaining or being delusional/exaggerating etc. Though, even there I'd say the difference is that on TRP there's generally a point and something logically sounds, but you can typically see through it to the emotion beneath the post, and the lies the person is telling themselves. With FDS it's just angry women being angry and spouting straight fantas… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 07:22 AM |
| 1 | Sleeping with another man's girlI would say that just because something feels good doesn't mean that you can't adhere to a moral, assuming you believe in it. In fact that's really the point of religion. however, intellectually I just think that if you're not putting a whole lot of effort into sleeping with a girl and she does it then she's just a cheater, so it's hard for me to feel like that's immoral. I feel differently about someone who is actively trying to steal someone from another person and really working hard to get t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 06:26 AM |
| 1 | Have you seen any relationship that defies all reason?The internet says they got together in 2013 which was when she created the channel. So he jumped on her early and probably had sex with her as her first or second partner would be my bet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 06:18 AM |
| 1 | Have you seen any relationship that defies all reason?The closest are generally from people that get together very young. so the guy gets the girl when she isn't as open to as many options, or the good looking guy gets together with a girl that gets fat. Even with that said there are always things you don't know. I remember there was a guy who was like a 4 or 3 dating a 7 in high school and it didn't make sense to me until I found out he was a drug dealer. Similarly one of the top 3 or so girls in the class below me was dating a guy in my class who… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 06:13 AM |
| 1 | How do girls not find guys who ask them out after just meeting them creepy?I would say that if you meet someone and start a conversation by roughly the third sentence you have a pretty good idea if you'd date them or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 06:12 AM |
| 7 | Being single mom is not the issue, but personality is.I don't want to raise your shitty kid you created from your shitty choices. I would be willing to date a widow though, so maybe you're right | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 06:07 AM |
| 1 | Do you consider yourself easy to attract? How easy is it for someone to pull you?Despite thinking I'm a somewhat low value man (maybe 45th percentile?), I really wouldn't want to be around most women long term. I have an aspergers diagnosis and really need my space and don't click with almost all people. I bet you if some 'Stacey's I could think of actively pursued me.....I don't know. A couple of the more attractive girls at work, I work in a relatively prestigious job, like 80th-90th percentile prestige, are extremely conscientious, which is a personality trait that essent… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 06:04 AM |
| 1 | who is this 'Chad' bogeyman guys have invented?Chad isn't a bogeyman in his essence, though certainly he's treated like it sometimes. Just like death, Chad is a reality that we'd rather not think about. It's really not that hard to understand Chad. If you go to a party with 50 people, Chad is the one or two guys that have their choice of women to sleep with at said party. For some reason women have a blind spot when it comes to this in that they either think they have some sort of special non-generic attraction to Chad, or they're actively i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 04:54 AM |
| 2 | Does sex equal attraction?For women, yes (excepting dutifully in marriage/relationships or hookers I guess), for men usually but what it only really means is pussy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 04:32 AM |
| 1 | So you want women to "lower their standards" but at the same time "not settle" for you....HOW is that possible?Well it's because they're aligning their expectations with reality. You're right though, if they're delusional about their value and reality they will always feel like they're settling. This is why we don't like them sleeping around, because for women sleeping around is about sleeping with men that are better than them, either in a a tight domain of physical size/fitness (though in my opinion some of them will do it for wealth, the smart ones will sleep with wealth from what I've seen), or someo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/22 04:31 AM |
| 1 | Would you take a bcp for men if it was on the market ?Probably not - I'd assume it'd mess with my biochemistry | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 04:01 AM |
| 2 | Older guys are not dating young girlsI guess it depends - most high value men won't get out of their 20s without getting married or at least being with someone they're going to marry - and most men I know that have good stable jobs in their late 20s end up with someone. So I think part of the problem is that the experiment really isn't run that often to be visible. I would guess that roughly 80-90% of high value men are in relationships by the time they're 30. I'm pretty non-social and don't meet a lot of people, but between family… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 03:49 AM |
| 13 | Interesting social experiment showing why dating is a numbers game for menNot true. you would get several hundred matches of people promoting their instagram and onlyfans | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/22 03:12 AM |
| 1 | Is my date telling me she isn’t interested?I don't see much reason to doubt women when they say things like this. Primarily because you can't know, but also because if she has to get up at 7 in the morning, she probably just doesn't want to plan to be out super late. Regardless, if she's having a good time she'll probably come back with you. It's possible that she's dodging ahead of time, but why worry about it. | /r/seduction | 20/06/22 01:06 AM |
| 0 | At what age does it become weird to not have lost your virginity as a man?22 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/22 05:27 AM |
| 2 | I've never regretted being rejection, but I have regretted not making a moveI really loved a girl once and I regret the rejection. I wish I'd been a better person. | /r/seduction | 19/06/22 05:25 AM |
| 1 | Welp, that was a failure.This is what male friends are for. Enjoy your time with your male friends. There are only two options They're not attracted to you and you'll have a better time not focussing on it They are attracting you, and they see a well lubricated social interaction going on and find it easier to skirt into and out of that than interacting with you head on. If you're just sitting silently across the room then them interacting with you is too obvious and scary for them. My inclination is that you're probabl… | /r/seduction | 19/06/22 05:24 AM |
| 1 | Sitting outside a bar I like. Afraid to go in because of a waitress I asked outThe only way to treat women that ignore you is to ignore them back and appear to be having a good time. | /r/seduction | 19/06/22 05:20 AM |
| 1 | Online dating, especially Tinder..can go F%@$ itselfI think they last time I tried to do this calculation I came up around 16%? I'll try again. If men and women have the same amount of time they're willing to dedicate to dating, and Chad's time is always saturated, and he's able to juggle 3 women in that time period, and the average woman is able to go without dating for ~50% of the time because she's willing to spend a little bit of time selecting and being in the talking stage, then you only need 1/6 men to service all women. That's 16.67 perce… | /r/seduction | 19/06/22 05:19 AM |
| 2 | Is a 29 year old asking out an 18 year old waitress creepy?I think it's normal for 18 year old women (and younger - but as a society we've chosen to draw the line at 18) to sleep with pretty much any high status guy regardless of age. I think women are hyper attuned to societal expectations and have a deep seated fear of being outcast and are generally very afraid of violating norms. So for some of them the idea of getting shamed overcomes the natural attraction. So, you can only react to how a woman is reacting to you. Also my inclination, though I've … | /r/seduction | 19/06/22 05:02 AM |
| 1 | Unattractive women are more likely to be actively interestedbecause pretty women have their whims catered to, and if she doesn't get what she wants immediately with one guy, she'll just move onto the next one | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 11:31 PM |
| 2 | If women are hypergamous, what really is the point of trying to have a relationship with one?The purpose of marriage is children and subsuquent families. She's also not going to leave you for a higher value man because presumably you're the best man she can get to long term commit to her | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 11:16 PM |
| 2 | The dating market place is changing simply because women don’t need men like we need women.I would say this is true if you look at the below 40 crowd and particularly the below 30 crowd, but women past 30 and especially pushing 40 are at severe danger of not ever having a meaningful relationship with a man again in their lives. They might glom onto some overlooked divorced short 50 year old just to have a feeling of security, but they won't like him, and obviously many are just going to be alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Unattractive women are more likely to be actively interestedI would say in general this is true, but I think more attractive women sometimes act extremely attracted and obvious for a short period of time before they move on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 11:11 PM |
| 8 | It’s a numbers game for men, but women don’t want to be treated like numbers?Women innately understand that Chad treats them like a number, it's one of their biggest fears, so they desire that he doesn't. If a non-Chad treats them like a number it's extremely uncomfortable for them because it upsets their understanding of their place in the pecking order. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/22 11:10 PM |
| 6 | One of the biggest reasons men will continue to struggle with women.Women absolutely fawn over an attractive shy man, so no. Experience with women means that you're attractive to women. Being attractive comes first. You're not in a hole because you just couldn't get experience and it keeps getting worse. You're in a hole because women don't want to interact with you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/22 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThat's good because you're too fat for chad | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadSo now I think you were part of a sports team in college/Frat and your status from that was 85th/90th percentile, which puts you at about a 67.9 in college. You had about 6 points more for status then based on the college environment, and if you were 17% body fat you were 20 pounds heaver in LBM?!, so you get about 10 points there, and your stated success with women is correlating pretty closely with what I'd expect both back then and now. You're less successful with women now because you're 20 … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 03:38 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadWomen do not have a rating system. This is not an accurate way to try and predict women’s behaviour. Women do have a rating system, and they all have roughly the same rating system. The reason women want to believe they don't have a rating system is because for the vast majority of them the 100/100 rated guy, i.e. the 225 pound 6'3'' model faced 8% body fat 250k a year guy is completely and forever out of their reach. He won't even make time to fuck them. So instead they spend years getting fuck… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 02:55 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThis is so ludicrous. You cannot rate people as if they are objects. I'm not rating people like they're objects, I'm trying to deduce the rating system women apply to men. I completely reject the idea that you care at all about personality, interest, or background no matter how much you scream that you do | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI would say that most college aged girls are a 6 or higher. Average for 18-22 year olds is probably 6.5, which is not 1 in 15 like your chart says, it's 1 in 2 (for college aged girls at least). My guess would be that the majority of the 7s you do meet (what I would call a 1 out of 4 for that age, and also how I suspect you're using it) tend to not want to meet up again, or they want to turn you into a friend, because you can hide your size in dating profile pictures but not in real life. I woul… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadYou're equating matching with girls on Hinge to getting them to meet up, which is not accurate. I imagine the girls that you meet are about a point less than the girls you match | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?and for 26-50 year olds that number will be closer to 40, and there are plenty of guys at overweight BMI that have a decent amount of muscle, and most people would severely underestimate what an 'overweight' BMI actually is in terms of height/weight combo. If you are 6'3'' 200 pounds you are 'overweight'. So 40% of men 26-40 in 'OK' shape is a fair estimate, maybe even low for what I mean by 'OK'. Though I do believe women are more demanding than what I mean by OK | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadyou're missing 17.5 points for status and 5 points for race | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 01:42 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadno, it's 120-207 which is an 87 point spread. you have 23 points of that so you have 10.6 points from lean body mass. 14% is 15.2 points If we're mapping to income that would be 65k per year, whic sounds like to me you make less, but fine we'll go with it unless you correct me You are then a 53.8, which is normie dating, seeing 5s and 6s off of Tinder, occasionally a 7. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 01:40 AM |
| 2 | Daily Community Chat Megathreadlol, is that so. Oh noez i better work on myself | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 12:29 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat Megathread17.5% is for face And yes, I believe this, especially when BF% is it's own separate variable as many face 'gains' are just from losing weight. If anything I think 17.5% is generous, and I've always 100% believed that women care much, much more about LBM than face. I don't care about celebrities and models because there's no frame of reference for their size in most cases. They literally do every last thing possible to hide their size in movies. I honestly believe that if Tom Cruise were just a g… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 12:22 AM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadThe theory is that women don't care about height, they care about LBM (i.e. which men can beat up other men). 1 inch in height is about 5 pounds of LBM free. So a man who is 5'5'' is 10 inches shorter than a man who is 6'3'', and just ambiently untrained has 50 pounds LBM less. This is a 23 point advantage that comes with being 6'3'' on average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/22 12:17 AM |
| 0 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI'm married to my system of rating right now, which is far from perfect. 40 points for Lean Body Mass 20 Points for Body Fat % 17.5 Points for Status (generally income if above 26ish) 17.5 Points for Face 5 points for Race Status and Race will get different values depending on the woman, and status in particular is more variable for younger women. But as you get older it's just your wealth in almost all cases. Sigmoidal relationship is assumed for the first 4 factors, so at some point there's di… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 11:33 PM |
| 1 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI'm just going to use my own system. 42.2 (not percentiles), which means women in social circles will interact with him but none really want to date him unless they're 5 and below. Hard to say without knowing how tall he is. If he's like 6'3'' then he could be a 53.7 which is like a slayer of 5s and 6s and can occasionally get a 7 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 11:20 PM |
| 1 | Q4MEN: What are the clues a woman can use to tell if a man only wants sex and not commitment?Yes, exactly, you're doing it backwards. You should be in a committed relationship before you sleep together. If you're introducing someone to your parents you need to be sure of them on a level that usually takes at least multiple months of already being in an exclusive relationship. Yes, and women should approach sleeping with men in the same way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 09:14 PM |
| 2 | Q4MEN: What are the clues a woman can use to tell if a man only wants sex and not commitment?He still would have been cheating on her if she had slept with him and then she would have just felt worse | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 09:01 PM |
| 1 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?It's only 26-50 year old men considered mr tiny brain | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 08:19 PM |
| 1 | What percent of women do you believe are willing to financially support their husbands permanently? and also how many of them are beautiful womenThat's sort of out there, but the majority I think are trailer trash and the man is on disability or some other form of government payment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 07:57 PM |
| 2 | Q4MEN: What are the clues a woman can use to tell if a man only wants sex and not commitment?Yes, that's exactly the point | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 07:55 PM |
| 2 | Q4MEN: What are the clues a woman can use to tell if a man only wants sex and not commitment?My rule is that women shouldn't sleep with men until they meet his parents. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 06:59 PM |
| 37 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?To be clear, a 29 year old making 85k is 93.7th percentile, or 6.3% of men, 6' and up is 20th percentile (though everyone overestimates height by an inch or two), and excellent physical condition I would guess is 15th percentile. If you combine all of those you get 0.189% or 1/529, and we didn't even talk about how attractive a face he must have. However, if we account for the fact that you're all idiots who think you're 1 inch taller than you are and everyone else is an inch taller than they ar… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 06:46 PM |
| 1 | Are women's standards that high, or are men just lying to themselves?'m also just kinda tired of guys talking about "gymcels". Being fit and in shape and even moderating lean does an immense amount for one's physical attractiveness and I've not met a single in shape guy on real life who struggles greatly with the opposite sex. Every guy I've known under 5'9'' that goes to the gym regularly and is in good shape and lean struggles with women, other than the few that are in LTR. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 06:27 PM |
| 11 | The vast majority of men would prefer a relationship to constantly trying for hookups. Women however only give their attention to the ones that only want sex.OH, this is way wrong. If you are a man and you can constantly get hook-ups, you're either going to get into a relationship with a decent match pretty quickly, or you're going to just constantly hook-up with women. If you are a man in the bottom 80%, you can't get hook-ups regularly, and you'd prefer a relationship. Women giving their attention to certain men is the cause of those certain men only wanting sex, not the other way around. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 05:11 PM |
| 2 | People seriously underestimate negative survivorship bias in datingI know, you're a cliche | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 05:04 PM |
| 2 | People seriously underestimate negative survivorship bias in datingYea, but you were 42 and desperate. Anything that might commit to you is in play at that point. Also, there's no evidence that you had anyone with a higher income that met certain minimum physical standards ready to commit to you to compete with him. Also, you're not even contradicting what I'm saying. I would be willing to bet you money that any woman that met her spouse after 26 that is getting married or has been married in the last 8 years would tell you that, "Well he wasn't initially my ty… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 05:00 PM |
| 4 | Who was your best sex? Your spouse? Your ex? Your FWB? Your ONS? And, if you had a one time opportunity, would you have sex with that person again? Do you sometimes fantasize about them?Best sex was with a girl who as a slut with low self-esteem that was in love with me that was cheating on her fiance. She just really gave it her all, like she could fuck me into loving her. She couldn't. But I do look back on it fondly. Sure, I'd fuck her again. She's married now but she would fuck me in secret. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 04:21 AM |
| 1 | What are your favorite/top vets?Hmmm Poor sense of humor is generally a sign of lower intelligence and high conformity. Tattoos are whore marks. I don't even think they need to go get them done anymore, I think if they suck enough dicks they just start appearing. Though I'd amend this to say that the biggest whores are probably the ones with a few small tattoos that they told themselves 'mean' something. 0 ambition - this is actually pretty unattractive to me in a woman and I realized this when I had my first roommate and his … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 01:14 AM |
| 1 | The Reason I Think Most RPers are Unsuccesful in DatingFirst off you don't have any data or definitions to support your claim that RPers are unsuccessful in Dating Second, even if red-pillers are more unsuccessful in dating, I would argue that it's unsuccessful men who are going and looking at RP ideology to begin with, as the impetus, and that these men are unsuccessful because they're short, ugly, fat, unathletic, autistic, are some combination thereof. Lastly, from the red pill threads I used to read it always sounded like the guys who were alrea… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 01:05 AM |
| 1 | Women are attractive by default. But they can't do much to improve their given attractiveness, beyond makeup/surgery/clothes. Most men are by default unattractive. But on the flipside, through gargantuan efforts, they can build up their attractiveness through decades of effort, if they don't fail.I am suspicious that some of the problems with male dating are stemming from male physical fitness. It would be incredibly unlikely for a man to have greater than 15% body fat and not at least all basic muscle groups a bit developed in pre-history, and if they did they would not be able to fulfill their tribal roles. If a woman gets fat that pussy will still squirt out a baby and that baby still has a chance at survival so there's not much reason to not cum inside of her. Essentially, I think th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 12:44 AM |
| 1 | Women are attractive by default. But they can't do much to improve their given attractiveness, beyond makeup/surgery/clothes. Most men are by default unattractive. But on the flipside, through gargantuan efforts, they can build up their attractiveness through decades of effort, if they don't fail.I mean, it's in the title, if they want to improve their SMV they have to improve their looks | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 12:37 AM |
| 2 | Is it possible for a woman to be thin and below-average looking in today’s dating market like it’s possible for men?The normal BMI girl distribution average is around 6.5, the overweight is around 4 and the obese is around 2.5 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 12:36 AM |
| 6 | People seriously underestimate negative survivorship bias in datingIn my experience the way it generally works is that Women will find their partner within a few years of completing education (0-3), and that basically any somewhat tame man with a good job will end up in a relationship. In that year, 45-year-old married men had an average income of 85.2 thousand U.S. dollars, compared to 45-year-old unmarried men, who had an average income of 49.8 thousand U.S. dollars. When women are ready to settle down they select the man with the highest income that meets ce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/22 12:19 AM |
| 7 | The root of a lot of misogyny is western society putting pressure on men to have sex as fast as they can.The root of misogyny is how women act towards men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/22 09:34 PM |
| 0 | Is it that hard to be top 20% anyway?First off you have to restrict the age range from 18-45 or so Then I would guess numbers are about <15% body fat is top 20% (you very likely underestimate your body fat btw) Height >6' is top 20% (you almost assuredly overestimate your height btw) Lean Body Mass >165 lbs is top 20% I would guess So body wise a barely 20th percentile man would be 6'0'' and 194 pounds at 15% body fat. Now, if you want to compare yourself to this I suggest you weigh yourself, accept the number. Now tell me your bod… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/06/22 03:02 AM |
| 1 | Do men or women choose?In a sense men choose, but the problem is if you have 100 men and 100 women, then the first man chooses 5 women, and the 2nd man chooses the next 5 women. It's like in an open marketplace in a 3rd world country. Think about women as those with wares swarming the rich westerner and he buys what he wants and then they all start swarming the next richest looking person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 07:32 PM |
| 16 | Any study that shows that money doesn't affect dating like women claim nowadays?Now try asking a woman in her mid 20s who is actively looking for a partner whether a guys financial status matters or not. Even for the most part I imagine they will say money doesn't matter because A. Most people have no idea about the earnings distribution. Here's one calculator which I think is shifted too high because it claims median income is 44k, where other sources says ~32k. Even so 60k is 64th percentile so only 1/3rd of the country makes more than that, and further that 1/3rd is goin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 07:15 PM |
| 3 | Are dating apps at least worth trying, or are they really THAT bad?Height matters least for dating apps because you can hide it, though it can be a big boon if you post a picture where you're the tallest in the group so it's obvious So what's most important for dating apps is muscles, low body fat, and an attractive face (i.e. strong jawline). Next is demonstrated social value and displayed wealth. Guessing the Weights Attractive face (i.e. strong jawline) - 25% (range from 0% as neck melding into face to 25% as male model ) Muscles - 25% (range from 0% as mclo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/06/22 12:44 AM |
| 3 | Has anyone ever successfully debunked The B***k pill?My honest advice to anyone that is as you describe is to find an introverted Filipina off the internet, passably attractive, and run with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 04:48 PM |
| -1 | As a guy Imma be honest, I think more guys should really work on self-establishment and self-actualization before getting into any relationship, even if it isn't seriousThe amount of people with no skills or accomplishments that turn to spirituality and self-actualization. Tsk, tsk, you have to desperately grasp for something in the Ocean when your drowning. If you can't measure it, it's not meaningful. Typically when lower value men want a relationship it's not because other people around them are in relationships, it's because they're craving stability in their sexless, loveless lives. Ask your average guy what did he even learned about himself during any rec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 04:43 PM |
| 7 | If men really want a relationship as bad as they say they do, then they should lower their standards.The complaint isn't that we can't bang the hottest women, that's solipsism/projection of what women want. The complaint is that we can't bang our looks-matches/SMV matches. The complaint is that we have to wait for women to stop being whores for a small subset of men which is brought on when they are visibly aging and panicking and more than likely they can't get the same matches they used to on Tinder, or at can only keep a guy's interest from Tinder for a couple of fucks at best. Then finally … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 05:27 AM |
| 1 | how confident are you with your body? does it affect your sex life?I'm 6'1'' and 220 pounds right now. Most of my adult life I've been closer to 180 but have put on the 40 over 4 years. My tape measure technique says I'm about 70 pounds of body fat which is around 30%. I'd call myself moderately chubby. It doesn't make much difference though because even when I was 165 and 12% body fat women didn't like me, however it does make me unhappy so I'm in the process of losing weight. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 05:22 AM |
| 1 | men who believe that woman are "after their money" actually know deep down that they have nothing to bring to the table besides moneyI think you're right just not for the reasons you believe. You heap on all sorts of virtue onto women that I've never seen. Gratitude for being helped or at hard work. These things aren't appreciated, they're taken for granted. Women assume that if a man is helping them, it's because he's lower than them. So you're right, men that believe that women are only after them for their money do understand they have nothing else to offer women, because they only thing women want from men other than mone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/06/22 05:17 AM |
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