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Ask Red PillTiny_Kitt3n/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 07:29 PM
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I agree with many of the guys in here - doctors and lawyers are pretty much the top of the food chain when it comes to the list of men who are presumed to be capable of providing for a family. However, I'd also like to posit the idea that the nature of a job can be hard to grasp when presented as something like running tests and blood work, assisting nurses with surgery, etc. Would that make you like a lab tech? Or a nursing assistant? People like to put labels on things and people in general ar…
/r/TheRedPill15/01/14 07:36 PM
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Thank you, that is helpful. It sounds like maybe an idea woven in here is that the preservation of the woman is top priority for all (man prioritizes her, woman prioritizes herself, man is often not highly prioritized). It sounds like I'm hearing here that men don't necessarily want a parade for those priorities, but it would be super cool if their contribution wasn't devalued in the way it is now. Yes?
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 06:55 PM
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Haha, that's very sweet of you. Although I warn you, it's about to be 20 below here so you might want to rethink that. :) We broke up because over time our views on children changed. The expanded story is below if you're interested. For years, we both held the belief of "this sounds like a decent idea" re: having them. We agreed the rest was negotiable - we could have them, adopt them, foster them, get/have them now, when we're 50, live in the city, in the burbs, I could work or not work, whatev…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 06:38 PM
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I can understand how it might seem I'm trolling, but I really just wanted a way to get clear, direct answers about male nature. You really can't do that in regular life. That's the short answer. I'll be a little longer below, but it's going to include snippets about my life, so if the above answer is clear enough, no need to read my text wall below. :) Reason one: I have dedicated my life to reducing as much suffering as I can. This is literally my life's work. I work at a nonprofit, where we sp…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 06:22 PM
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The guy you quoted definitely put it very well. That idea is one that is hard to wrap my mind around in a way - it's hard for me to accept that any love I'm capable of is only because of what someone is offering me. That thought is so depressing. I feel I'm capable of more. As an aside, I know I've mentioned this in my original post, but I never took a dollar of his. I made a very distinct point of this. He made his career choice and I made mine. His field pays vastly better than mine. That was …
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 06:12 PM
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It's interesting you mention the 9-5 job. I have one of these, so did my former partner. I sometimes wonder if this type of job is really unhealthy in general, I would hypothesize that to be especially true for men. It provides maximum stability, but the sheer blandness doesn't seem like it would breed happiness and excitement.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 05:43 PM
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So where do men go? I mean they have to go places to hang out with other men. Like that has to be a thing.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 05:17 AM
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I can certainly see how that would piss men off! If they're toiling in obscurity trying to do right by their women/families only to have that work invalidated, that would feel hugely emasculating and dismissive. This is why I wish conversations like this happened in real life. We aren't men so it's hard to see and really understand what is involved in being a man and there are few avenues for this info to travel down in order for us to be exposed to it.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 04:53 AM
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I agree with you from a biological standpoint, but from a human standpoint it seems so sad for men to be this quantifiable factor in reproduction. Humans have value. Men are humans. Humans are not disposable. Does it make you sad to think of men as disposable or is this just something guys are taught at a young age maybe?
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 04:26 AM
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The most interesting part here IMHO is the reference to the idea that basic social insecurity on the part of men is useful for a society. In the world of women, this insecurity is often chalked up to men being internally delicate and with fragile egos. It seems like it would be a really obnoxious thing to have ongoing social fear/insecurity as a driving force, wouldn't it?
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 04:18 AM
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Thank you, I don't think I'm the right person to speak to my attractiveness level, but I appreciate the complement. :) I think I see what you're saying and I agree that I've noticed many women becoming complacent about their partners over time and treating them like glorified roommates. I do see a trend of women having an urge to nurture (even if it diminishes if they become complacent with their partner), but as I think on it, I can also see a trend among those who I would consider my more aver…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 04:12 AM
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Hm, I hadn't even thought of that angle. Maybe also many men try to protect women from risk in the workplace and without that risk, women often are unable to reach the same career highs? If that makes sense.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 03:34 AM
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Wow, thank you very much. That's a very kind thing of you to say. TRP is a really good opportunity to hear a perspective you don't hear other places. I'm really glad everyone has been willing to share! Re: Breaking Bad, I've only seen the first two episodes but in the perspective of the conversation that's being had here I can see it in a whole new light. When I watched it (a year ago maybe?) I thought "why would he bring all this danger into their lives and why wouldn't he tell his wife so she …
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 03:02 AM
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Honestly, this is a really beautiful thought. I wish this was something I understood earlier in life and I wish this is something they would tell girls when they're growing up. I'm extraordinarily close to my father and I STILL didn't get the memo. This is such a helpful conversation.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 02:25 AM
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I would argue that this is a fact. I can't speak for all women, but in my experience, this is a pretty consistent theme. We like to do support-y things. That goes double for feeding you. We really like to feed you. Again, can't speak for all women, but I notice a trend.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 02:06 AM
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Okay, that makes more sense. Thanks for clarifying. I'll think on that.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 01:44 AM
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I don't perceive that as whining at all. This is honestly not something that you hear out in the regular world. The closest I've gotten is to hear that "we should let men do things for us because they like to". Which sounds similar to, but not the same as, what you're saying. The difference is worth noting and inquiring about. This is genuinely something I can't say I've even really been exposed to. I can't speak for all women but I'm sure many didn't hear this growing up.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 01:43 AM
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For serious. Try this: Order a pizza, prepare a blanket nest. Have sex. Assuming you want to have sex for no more than 45 minutes to an hour, when you get done, the pizza will be there, the blanket nest will be pre-prepared, you can find a movie on Netflix, and eat your post-coital pizza while watching a movie in a blanket nest. Really this is a fantastic night. This is my suggestion to you. :)
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 01:31 AM
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Wow, this is so crazy, it genuinely didn't occur to me that men would make the decision that they are disposable. I wonder if the current crop of women (in their early 20s) are even taught that this is a valuable trait.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 01:29 AM
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I think you were just trying to draw attention a point you were making, which is fair and not so much cruel as practical. That's helpful information on hamstering. It sounds like you don't think that a different level of ambition could result from having a different set of personality traits. Is that accurate?
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 01:23 AM
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I'm just going to put it out there that Romeo and Juliet were 12 or 13 in the story, so not so much about the love a woman has for a man so much as love between children. That really relates 0% to the conversation but my inner English nerd couldn't help it.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 01:18 AM
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I will look for these. I've never heard of them before. Thanks for recommending.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 01:10 AM
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Also, I would argue that any woman who is interested in having a real, genuine, open, kind, honest LTR with you is just plain interested in doing stuff to improve your life period, whether it is in regards to something she can personally do (e.g. make dinner, take care of herself) or a way she can support you more broadly (e.g. pick up extra hours at work while you're going to school, doing more household chores while your mother is in town).
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 01:08 AM
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Thank you, that's a kind response. :) I did notice that you mentioned that I would hamster. I'm not sure what part of that is hamstering, but I guess that's the point - it's a process that happens on its own. (And just for the sake of honesty, I'm 32, which I suppose makes me post-wall)
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 12:59 AM
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Is that really true that a guy doesn't love you, he loves that he can protect, provide, and care for you? If that's true, wouldn't men rather have women stay home and take care of children? That would produce the maximum need for protection, provision and care, right?
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 12:51 AM
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I think dude is just kind of tired. It sounds like he would entertain PMs about the topic to clarify. :)
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 12:49 AM
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I would highly argue that yes, this is a good test. I would argue that it is in a woman's nature to want to nurture her partner. Surely the degree varies by woman, but I would argue that however stereotypical this is, women have some amount of nurturing instinct built into them. Even the most tomboy-ish women I know do things like bring home steak for fajitas because fajitas are your favorite and you like steak the best so that's what's for dinner. Or they have bought a new skirt and immediately…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 12:46 AM
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Haha, I think she will have fun with that. It keeps things interesting and in my opinion, if people can communicate clearly during dominance games and foreplay, it can be more intimate than "vanilla sex". Just make sure to make her blanket nests - big blobs of blankets you can sit in together while you watch tv or eat dinner post-sex. Post-sex blanket nest = awesome. Minimal effort, maximum return. :)
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 12:37 AM
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I'm 32, so only kind of older (I assume). We weren't married, we were just together for a very long time. We met when we were very young. I agree - women have a much greater opportunity to be sociopaths now. Maybe that's something that has been lurking in both sides of human nature but that women can now express much more freely.
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 12:35 AM
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It's true that he had potential. I met him in college, which in and of itself is a tool to create potential. He is the wealthiest person I've dated - I've dated four other men, two of them had jobs that reliably made ends meet. Whether I met him when he had potential or not, my former partner pursued the route he did because that's what he wanted for himself, which is something based in his desires and in his nature, which is part of what makes him him. To be happy being a dishwasher would be ag…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 12:30 AM
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Hahaha so I hear. I would suggest he try kittens (cuter) but that sounds even more painful. ;)
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 12:18 AM
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Thanks for asking. I hope this thought will make sense: I think women and men have the same capacity for love. However I think it manifests differently. It sounds like what I'm being told is that when a man loves a woman, it means he would do anything for her - kill, die, fight, dedicate his whole soul. To me, it sounds like a man's love is like a gun and a shield. His love will protect and defend both the nest and its inhabitants and he will do it happily. It is his nature. (I think this is wha…
/r/TheRedPill04/01/14 12:17 AM
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I really agree with the second part of that. I've noticed that men who struggle to find male role models/male friends they trust seem to be much more vulnerable to female manipulation. Maybe they have a hard time figuring out how to "be a man" and society is simultaneously telling them "your male urges and instincts are bad"? I would imagine that's a huge mindfuck (if that is indeed the case).
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 11:51 PM
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That's really kind of you CaptainLimpdick, which seems like a really rude way for me to complement someone because oh man that name. :) I think I'm being truthful. I want clear, honest information. I want to be part of the solution, not part of the problem. I think I am getting a lot of that here and I welcome whatever you have to contribute. I don't know what I don't know, if that makes sense.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 11:47 PM
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Definition of case study Please see the "also": a situation in real life that can be looked at or studied to learn about something In any case, it's helpful to hear recognition that there are always exceptions to the rule. It's unfair for me to assume that's commonly accepted without being told as much, I think.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 11:25 PM
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If society has now come to repress natural male behavior in favor of female social liberation, do you believe that prior to the feminist movement, a society run by men would have repressed natural female behavior? Not sure if that makes sense.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 11:19 PM
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Do you think this is true for all/most women?
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 11:16 PM
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I get that this shouldn't bug me, but as I mentioned above, I never took a dollar from him. We consistently split everything down the middle. When we separated, I took nothing - not the furniture, dishes, knives, forks, bed, towels, nothing. It's just stupid to be unable to support yourself and to rely on a man for money, and I never have. Not for one single day of my life (outside of my childhood obviously). I pride myself on that.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 11:08 PM
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Either way, the concepts presented within the context of today's societal constructs helps make it easier to digest. :)
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 10:46 PM
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Is the argument that feminism has eroded that contract, thus reducing the civility of human romantic interaction and assisting the regression towards the previous "wild animal" state?
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 10:42 PM
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Haha, I appreciate analogies and have in fact recently eaten cake, so I'm in the frame of mind to double appreciate the analogy. :) I will make a note to myself to PM you. Thank you! Sleep tight!
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 10:40 PM
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I think I see what you're saying - women begin taking a man for granted once they get the world from him. Their sense of self worth becomes artificially inflated and they try to trade up. Yes?
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 10:38 PM
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That's a fair assessment I think. NAWALT creates ambiguity in this circumstance, which sadly is a good tactic when you're trying to spin things in your favor.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 10:34 PM
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I mention this on another comment, but when I met him (and for years into our relationship) he was working for minimum wage. I just thought he was a cool dude.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 10:27 PM
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But haven't we evolved past the point where we act like wild animals? Does it really have to be like that?
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 10:26 PM
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This is an incredibly helpful analogy. Thank you very much for sharing that. I will think on this.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 10:23 PM
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I didn't mean to make my example about money, but for what it's worth, I met him when he was 19 and was working for minimum wage - this was the case for years. He was just a really awesome dude.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 10:22 PM
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I think I'm following, but can you clarify? Am I accurate in hearing that when the characteristics you love in a person change, that what you love isn't that person, it's something else? Or maybe that you don't love the new them and are staying with them for different reasons?
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 10:16 PM
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Agreed, the more I try to hear it, the more I realize you don't hear much from men in regular everyday society. Where can men speak their mind? Maybe in mens' clubs? Is that still a thing? Or like poker night? Or something? I have no idea as I wouldn't be there (obviously). And how often do you hear DON'T MESS WITH US WOMEN! WE'RE FIERCE! Only everywhere. I don't know if all feminists are super intolerant, but the voice of YOU DON'T NEED A MAN is very loud within feminism. It's not a huge leap b…
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 10:13 PM
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I guess maybe this is what perpetuates gender conflict, at least in part. Neither side understands how to love the other side as they want to be loved. Men want women to love them in the "I will climb mountains, kill, and be killed for you" way. Women want men to love them in the "understand my needs, wants, feelings" way. At least that's the undertone I think I'm hearing here.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 10:06 PM
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Thank you, I hope so but I suppose I can't really know because I don't have knowledge outside my own (female) experience. This conversation is really immensely helpful.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 10:03 PM
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Hahahahahahaha, I really really love that chain! Hamsters are truly bloodthirsty maniacs. They are devils in adorable furry bodies. It seems the appropriate answer is for men to get really invested in hamsters. The chain could become complete. :)
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 10:01 PM
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It's helpful to know that men know that NAWALT. I've seen that phrase in the abbreviations list, but have yet to see someone in a thread use that phrase, which makes it seem like red pill theory is applied in absolutes, which I've learned here to be an inaccurate belief on my end. As an aside, if I were writing a report, a case study would be helpful in giving context and supporting a theory. That is what I attempted to provide by including my example in my original post. I'm not sure what I wou…
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 09:57 PM
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Agreed. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a movie where the woman chooses the more traditionally alpha male. Maybe Tarzan? IMHO, Hunger Games is also a great example of this.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 09:39 PM
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From what I've seen around me, women want to feel like they are special and like their man is utterly shitting himself over how much he loves everything about her. This is what we are taught to pursue. Well, that and a man with a good job who will provide for you in whatever way you see fit. In my opinion this doesn't have much to do with the man, more about how he makes her feel, which seems to fit into red pill doctrine.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 08:55 PM
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Alas, what were once advantageous behaviors seem to now be pretty much just a really long string of dick moves. I don't mean to discount what you're saying and I appreciate you sharing that perspective, which makes sense. The red pill is just bitter to swallow.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 08:43 PM
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For serious, one of the most helpful things I've read in terms of getting a grasp on what love means from the male perspective. I really appreciate the thoughtful response and I will ruminate on it. I welcome any other thoughts you'd like to share. I really want to get a handle on this. These concepts simply aren't available in everyday regular life, especially to women.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 08:25 PM
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I understand it's not all about me. My experience is the only one I can speak from, though, so I'm really the only point of reference I can use. I took the word "all" to mean every woman. It's helpful to me to get the clarification that in this case "all" refers to a trend and tendency rather than "every single woman that's ever been born or will ever be born". Thanks!
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 08:22 PM
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Thanks for the link. I've read it twice since you sent it, I think I understand it. Honestly, it's a pretty colossal mind fuck. I can see how we are prone to some of the characteristics/behaviors listed in the article, but can't we control them if we're aware of them? It seems the implication is that we may not even know when we're walking all over men. Depressing.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 08:19 PM
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Thank you for the links. I've read these before, but I think there's something I'm still not understanding. I guess I should just post something to TRP in general rather than putting you through the tedious exercise of educating me. :)
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 07:04 PM
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Why is it impossible for women to ever love men on a human level (not just on a flighty, tingly, oxytocin-based level)? I do not understand how this could be possible and I want to understand the meat of this concept.
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 06:50 PM
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Yes yes yes! Put your base strength in yourself! Whether related to relationships, your job, your family, whatever, if you derive your strength from yourself, you will be so much healthier and more stable. I have no way to factually demonstrate that women do in fact get over a breakup easier/faster than men, but women surely have a huge societal advantage there in terms of what they're encouraged/expected to do. After a breakup, women are encouraged to focus on themselves, hang out with their gi…
/r/TheRedPill03/01/14 06:43 PM
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I think it's more that women are delaying marriage because they're waiting for The One, and they buy into the "don't settle for less than perfection" thing. By the time fertility starts running out, keeping on waiting doesn't seem as appealing. I think the focus is more on waiting for mister right than avoiding waste of youth/fertility.
/r/TheRedPill31/12/13 04:56 PM
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I also hear this used as "handle your damn business" (I.e. resolve your problems maturely, be the owner of your own life, deal with people honestly and fairly). I think it would be unfortunate to discount that meaning because, although many women use it to mean "take care of me", I'd think it would be a good sign if you discovered that a woman used that phrase to mean the latter.
/r/TheRedPill30/12/13 03:19 PM
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If you've been casually dating for a couple months and haven't "made it official", why would you assume you're the only person she's seeing? That's how dating works. You're allowed to see multiple people. You stop doing that when you become official with someone. You and her are not official. I see no reason why she should have to inform you if she goes on a date with someone else. That said, I understand why that would be upsetting, especially if you were only dating her or assumed she was only…
/r/askTRP30/12/13 11:29 AM
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I think it's just that by the time you get to your 60s you (hopefully) have more wisdom to share than you did when you were 30 or 40. Unfortunately that means we grew up without the benefit of that wisdom or maybe they just held onto it until we were "old enough to understand" or something.
/r/TheRedPill25/12/13 04:44 PM
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I'm not sure I understand why only a man can say ridiculous things, or why a woman would be horrified about it.....?
/r/TheRedPill14/12/13 05:44 PM
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