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Don't worry. Most women are only using psychology as their pre-house wiring degree.
/r/MensRights08/09/16 10:48 AM
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I would agree that it pisses me off when I hear sjws screaming that there is nothing inherently homophobic about Islam. I'm not asking anyone to apologize for their beliefs, but don't just blatantly lie.
/r/MensRights13/06/16 02:39 PM
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And I'm sure most people on this board will be equally up in arms if Mormons or jainists start blowing themselves up and murdering innocent people in the name of their God. But atm, unfortunately, only one ideology is reliably producing that sort of behavior. Obviously, this does not mean all Muslims are bad, or that there isn't anything worthwhile in Islam. But it does mean we have to be honest about what the problem is.
/r/MensRights13/06/16 12:19 PM
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Same
/r/MensRights02/08/15 11:43 PM
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Hate Hilary, wish Liz Warren was running so I could vote for her instead.
/r/MensRights04/05/15 10:10 PM
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This is just bonkers lol. What country am I in?
/r/MensRights04/05/15 09:24 PM
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Yes I am.
/r/MensRights19/04/15 04:58 PM
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This is pretty much exactly my GF. She self identified as a feminist when we first met, but has been slowly realizing how little she actually agrees with the modern movement. Lately, she's been saying she doesn't like the label anymore. I approve.
/r/MensRights19/04/15 04:19 PM
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Yeah and I'm all for that. Hell I'd be for a woman in the NFL, as long as it's not dangerous and she made it on merit. Probably not gonna happen anytime soon, but I have nothing against the concept itself
/r/MensRights19/04/15 12:38 AM
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Which is why I specifically praised the comments, not its position in the reddit.
/r/MensRights18/04/15 10:40 PM
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Welcome to the club man, banned months ago for arguing the notion that gender roles in reproduction may have had some influence in how early societies were organized. Point remains, at least the majority of them disagreed with the article, from what I saw.
/r/MensRights18/04/15 10:30 PM
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To their credit, a good portion of the comments in the article called it BS as well. Couple dummies of course, but most of the commenters knew it had little to do with MRA.
/r/MensRights18/04/15 10:25 PM
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I'm happy to have them try, and would love to see a freak, female athlete succeed in a male professional sport. I don't think that'll happen, naturally at least, but who knows.
/r/MensRights18/04/15 10:08 PM
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Many men have, of course, ended up raising children who were not genetically their own, but really, does it matter? You can feel quite as much tenderness for a child you mistakenly think to be yours as for one who is. Jesus christ... some people are so far gone that they don't even realize how ridiculous the notions they're espousing actually are to regular, decent people. I don't understand how someone can imply that lying about a child's father is a nonissue and still act like their thoughts a…
/r/MensRights17/01/15 09:23 PM
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That was such a beautiful paragraph.
/r/MensRights28/12/14 07:55 PM
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What they said. People like her unfortunately aren't going to listen to logic or reason, they're not able to separate emotions from the situation. Better off just not getting into it.
/r/MensRights28/12/14 07:01 PM
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Until we start taking all sides of rape seriously, both as a crime and a weapon of defamation which false accusers use to their advantage, both innocent women and men will continue to be hurt.
/r/MensRights15/12/14 06:59 PM
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Does it strike anyone else as odd that their generation, of all the generations, is the one we need to test for non-coding, 'basic computer proficiency'? I'm fairly confident every single one of them knows exactly how to use the internet, and has for quite some time.
/r/MensRights29/11/14 10:52 PM
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I'm not sure I agree with nor understand your premise that only a privileged minority of men are able to get women? Who is this minority and what makes them special? Who are the women this minority ends up with? Why is this? I'm just confused with your premise in general, could you please clarify?
/r/MensRights29/11/14 09:56 PM
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Guys, I earn less than 1% of what Warren Buffett earns. Can I have an article too?
/r/MensRights29/11/14 09:41 PM
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Our public education system fucking sucks for dozens of reasons, being geared towards female learning early on is just one of them.
/r/MensRights29/11/14 09:33 PM
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That last paragraph is so important and so true. Any feminist with a shred of moral integrity has to read it and realize how much false rape accusations hurt the due process rights of true rape victims. These situations do not exist in vaccums, they directly affect one another, and if you want one taken seriously, then you cannot, CANNOT just choose to ignore the other side of what happens.
/r/MensRights29/11/14 07:48 PM
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About time. Given the absurdity of challenging due process, it shouldn't be long before new policies which don't break the bill of rights are put into place.
/r/MensRights21/11/14 09:40 PM
4

I think its common courtesy to let girls know whether or not they can sleep over. Same for women.
/r/MensRights14/11/14 09:09 PM
1

Thank god, now we can finally get women employed at NASA again.
/r/MensRights14/11/14 07:24 PM
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This entire fiasco is a fucking insult to anyone who has ever actually been raped before..
/r/MensRights09/11/14 01:56 AM
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I would let it go. You never know what influenced her to react that way; its not right, but I can envision a scenario where that instinctive response had roots in a personal experience.
/r/MensRights23/05/14 05:03 AM
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Therein lies the rub, and its not as simple as 'feminists run the universities'
/r/MensRights08/05/14 07:56 PM
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Its not right, but the only reason this happens is because rape cases automatically equal bad press for any university; the only way to minimize this is by acting swiftly against the accused to give the appearance of zero tolerance. The true reason this happens is because the public and media condemn the accused automatically based on the accusation; anything other than swift justice is taken as an insult. Look at the amount of flack FSU and the police department took with the Jameis Winston fia…
/r/MensRights08/05/14 05:31 AM
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If you're actively seeking out sex, the result is not rape.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 05:16 AM
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I'd be interested to see what percentage of those opposed have children; maternal instincts might be playing a role.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 02:06 AM
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I don't think the majority of people in this thread are saying she should be arrested; they're merely pointing out that this is a perfect example of a double standard that we all know exists. She's not a rapist, nobody who responds to a booty call is a rapist. But the fact that only men get considered as such is wrong, and it should be pointed out.
/r/MensRights07/05/14 01:25 AM
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Boys didn't talk to you much in highschool did they?
/r/MensRights07/05/14 01:20 AM
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I didn't say it was all his fault and I didn't say he's not a victim. Just that he does bear a small responsibility to what happened as well and his can be mitigated by not getting blacked out going forward.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 11:24 AM
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Your solution is to move on from what happened and ensure you don't put yourself in that position again. What I said wasn't supposed to help; it was supposed to be general advice to all grads.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 03:56 AM
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Well in the grand scheme of things it is meaningless to everyone around you. You were taken advantage of, yes, and that is wrong. But the worst that will come of it is a couple people poking fun of you in school; that's simply not a massive consequence. I'm not going to do the thing feminists do which is completely absolve stupid behavior because something or someone wronged you to some degree along the way. You're more than free to drink yourself into oblivion all the time, but you can't consis…
/r/MensRights05/05/14 03:27 AM
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You were drunk and did something you regret. If the situation bugs you, then don't put yourself in a similar one by getting so inebriated you lose control of yourself. If it had been sex, you would have a little more sympathy; but making out while drunk is pretty meaningless.
/r/MensRights05/05/14 03:19 AM
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The standard for evidence in favor of a false accusation would have to be very high.
/r/MensRights18/12/13 08:38 PM
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Well the fact that a 2/3 majority female jury still found him not guilty gives me a lot of hope that the vast majority of people aren't subject to this indoctrination.
/r/MensRights15/12/13 05:53 AM
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I honestly don't even know what you're trying to say bro, chill the fuck out
/r/MensRights14/12/13 11:33 PM
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Because assumption of guilt deserves to be applauded right
/r/MensRights14/12/13 11:04 PM
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No its an accusation without enough evidence to convict on. Lack of evidence doesnt mean it's a false accusation.
/r/MensRights14/12/13 10:59 PM
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Who knows
/r/MensRights14/12/13 10:57 PM
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This. Also that was hilarious
/r/MensRights14/12/13 10:22 PM
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To be fair, there were a number of reasonable feminists responding as well, but by and large it was like you described. The notion of innocent until proven guilty was lost on them, and overall there was just a general sense that most didn't know how the legal system works.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 10:38 PM
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Theres an enormous difference between feeling guilty for cheating on your boyfriend and the 'slut shaming' culture people go on about. If she did make a false accusation (Police report suggests thats the likely explanation), it was likely a combination of the fact that Winston's roommate began to tape the event, combined with guilt over cheating. Slut shaming and being unfaithful aren't the same.
/r/MensRights13/12/13 08:22 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/MensRights13/12/13 04:59 PM
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This isn't the full story. He claims that, in keeping consistent with her desire to tape sex acts, she requested he tape himself having sex with her while sleeping. Then, for whatever reason, he posted the video on FB (Guy is a total scumbag) and her family saw it. Thats when the rape accusation's were made, however he maintains that he showed her the video the following morning and she initiated sex. (And for what it's worth, his friend testified to him mentioning that she wanted him to tape th…
/r/MensRights13/12/13 04:20 PM
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I guess we're on the same page, I don't personally witness a lot of the the shaming you described in my day to day life, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. The reason that I'm very insensitive to this issue overall is because I can see exactly why slut shaming happens, it makes complete sense to me why people do it, and I guess I've always led my life knowing that my choices could rub people in a very bad way. I accepted it and went on, it worked out and I'm happy. I also see girls doing t…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 10:13 PM
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I never said I do personally, but the fact that many do is undeniable. That doesn't take away your freedom to live your life, but it means you should expect some minor consequences.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 09:05 PM
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I mean how do you define shaming? I've slept around myself and slept with plenty of promiscuous women, but if I ever date someone I would much rather have them be someone who isn't tremendously promiscuous... ie not a virgin, but I'd rather not date a woman at my age whose had like 20+ partners. Is that shaming?
/r/MensRights12/12/13 07:52 PM
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Being gang raped while your passed out is not the same thing, sorry. I would also add that judging people for their life choices is bad and should not be tolerated. Whether or not its bad, it happens. You make progress as a society when people make decisions regardless of what society thinks, not by telling society to behave better.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 08:37 AM
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No but for the sake of the argument it would explain some of the perceptions surrounding female promiscuity. I'm not saying it is true, just that I can understand the connection some people make. Edit- And to respond the the question, 'put down'? No. But expecting people to view your lifestyle the same whether you've slept with three people or thirty? That seems like wanting the best of both worlds, and thats not a luxury anybody, male or female, can realistically expect. Sex is something people…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 08:35 AM
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I wouldn't ever try to tell anyone that their thoughts, feelings, or actions are wrong (as long as they actually aren't). Women sleeping around isn't wrong at all, but if they choose to do so, they need to be ready for how people judge their actions. I'm not saying they deserve to get yelled at or threatened, absolutely not. But peoples perception's of you change when you act in different ways, thats part of having choice. Lets clarify what you mean when you say slut shaming because we may actua…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 08:12 AM
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Thats a great example. Give people freedom, some will push the limits, others will stay in societies comfort zone. Wrongs are changed over time, but racism didn't go away by trying to 'change peoples perception' on it.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 08:06 AM
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It was just a quick side note because the idea made me chuckle. I'm not trying to address people who embrace their sexuality. I'm a person who is whole and can stand up for myself, but there's a shit ton of people in the world who get their feelings trampled on and I want to stand up for them. I guess my response then is if we've established that standing up for yourself and your decisions is part of being a well adjusted adult who makes their own decisions, then the whole 'anti-slut shaming' mo…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 07:34 AM
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Would you agree with the notion that, generally speaking, its easier for a woman to have lots of casual sex with different partners than it is for a man?
/r/MensRights12/12/13 07:27 AM
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I'm sorry but I think your logic here is absolutely faulty. Saying that everybody judge others cannot be an argument to say that judging people isn't bad. I know lot of people who hate gays, the fact that many think like them doesn't make them less of an asshole. People judging people is never going to disappear, its a consequence of living your life the way you want. And also, I don't care if people approve my choices, but there is a difference between disapproving and shaming, the later is mak…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 07:25 AM
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We're not talking about people complaining when people judge them here. I'm talking about a general attitude that makes people feel shame about their sexuality which causes a lot of stress and negative reactions to those around them. Slut shaming doesn't just affect sluts, it affects a lot of women who feel like their sexual appetites are inherently wrong and should be constantly surpressed. First of all, feminists are joking if they think women have the hardest time in modern society feeling go…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 07:19 AM
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Most people aren't prepared to stand up in defense of their actions and beliefs whether they are reasonable or not. Then either don't do it, or don't complain when people judge you. This is just how life works. Changing perceptions about stuff is how a society progresses. It's a necessary part of our movement forward as a species. Fair enough, you're correct. I guess I would argue that feminists, and especially society as a whole, have far more important perceptions to change than the mentalitie…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 07:02 AM
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Well if you're not prepared to stand up in defense of your actions/beliefs, you need to re-evaluate whether or not you really should be doing them. By societal engineering I mean the way many feminists seek to 'change perceptions about sex' and shit.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 06:46 AM
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For the love of god, what you just described is so far off the mark from what I've been discussing its ridiculous. Just not even close. I expect people to stand behind their choices, the poor girl you described never got a chance to make a choice. Not even close to a relevant example.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 06:44 AM
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This is not unique to women or sex. If you assign value to something and see someone running around valuing it either much more or much less, its human nature to pass judgement. You have to own your actions in this world, if someone tries to make you feel bad for doing something just ignore it or tell them to fuck off; all this societal engineering bullshit to 'change peoples perception' is such a waste of time.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 06:38 AM
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For example, a female friend of a friend had a threesome with two guys while pissed drunk. Afterwards she was ashamed a lot. You wouldn't see a guy feeling shameful for scoring two girls at the same time. I think that's what slut shaming means. Although this situation is bad for both male and female as gender roles force men to "perform" in their sex life while for women, they have to be passive. The obvious difference to me is that its a hell of a lot harder for a guy to get two girls than for …
/r/MensRights12/12/13 06:34 AM
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Because slut shaming to me basically just describes the same mundane judgements we all experience for any number of reasons, including the one you used as an example. Its a fact of life that won't ever change, freedom wouldn't be freedom if everyone just gave you a pat on the back for doing your own thing. Maybe what we have in mind for slut shaming is different. I know I personally have lost the chance to date some girls over the years because I sleep around a ton when I'm single. Does that suc…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 06:29 AM
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No worries
/r/MensRights12/12/13 06:22 AM
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I guess the mainstream 'slut shaming' I witness most often is more along the lines of what I just described, which I don't think is an issue.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 06:21 AM
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Understood. Every single one of my posts got deleted anyway, not much point anymore. Maybe I'll re-up tomorrow.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 06:16 AM
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I could have just replaced the www...
/r/MensRights12/12/13 06:09 AM
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As I said, most of them have no regard for 'burden of proof' or 'presumption of innocence' when it comes to this issue.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 06:07 AM
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Dealing with peoples judgements is a natural by product of having the freedom to live your life the way you want.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 06:06 AM
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Because along with having the freedom to act however you please comes the responsibility of people judging you or not agreeing with the way you live your life. If you want to sleep around as a woman, more power to you, its absolutely your right and I'll defend it until the day I die. But you can't flip around and whine that people are making you feel bad because thats life. Thats like a person who smokes a lot of weed saying its wrong if you call him a stoner. You make a choice, you live with it…
/r/MensRights12/12/13 06:03 AM
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People have the right to live their lives however they'd like, but they don't get to avoid people judging them along the way. You can't have your cake and eat it as well, sleeping around will turn some people off, thats life whether you're a guy or a girl.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 05:59 AM
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The idea of 'slut shaming' is the most ridiculous idea that feminists want taken seriously.
/r/MensRights12/12/13 03:21 AM
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You're talking about laws. I, and I think most people here, are merely discussing an adults role of accepting responsibility for the things that they do while intoxicated.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 10:48 AM
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They're clearly more concerned about the principle of the distinction rather than the specific differences.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 09:53 AM
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Oh I agree. (Lie in bed with dogs, get fleas.) However, in case a person did do that (for example if the person were also drunk) and the other drunk party consented, should a jury of your peers send the person to prison for it? I think not. In my opinion? Absolutely not. For one, when both parties are more or less equally intoxicated, you can't accuse anyone of rape. And even when consent is "given", but given while drunk and technically not valid, I still don't think criminal punishment is warr…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 05:09 AM
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There are plenty of analogous situations, but none are treated the same way as drunken sex. The crux of the issue is this: Currently, the law draws only one distinction, that's between 'consentual sex' and 'rape'. What it actually should be is: Three distinctions between 'Consentual sex', 'sex without legal consent', and 'rape' (ie when consent was either denied or given in any form)
/r/MensRights09/12/13 05:05 AM
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While I responded to one of your earlier posts with a rebuttal, overall, you're getting tied up in the semantics of the issue and ignoring the 'point' of the comparison.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:57 AM
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You just proved how the comparison is fundamentally different. In the prior agreement, the contract is not automatically void due to capacity; it can be ratified when the party becomes sober again. This distinction does not hold with consent laws. Lack of consent (sober) consent is lack of consent, regardless if the party ratifies it when they're no longer incapacitated. Obviously, the vast majority of the time, this ratification means it was OK in that nobody gives a shit about the 'lack of con…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:54 AM
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I've said this on Reddit a couple times before, but I think the most reasonable standard is 'If shes so drunk that you don't think she should drive, you probably shouldn't have sex with her'.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:34 AM
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I had several in depth discussions about this topic on my other user 'Funzo6785'. The proposition isn't explicitly ONE drink, instead its 'whatever it takes for her to lose the ability to consent'. This is interpreted as meaning however many drinks it takes for her decision making faculties to be affected in the slightest. Eventually, you do end up back at the point where one drink is all it could take. I agree 100% with chocoboat, there is a very solid origin to this logic. Unfortunately it has…
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:32 AM
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To be fair, she isn't accusing him of rape. Shes asking how the evidence presented didn't result in him being 'charged' with rape, which is a far cry from 'convicted'.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:23 AM
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Seriously. This standard has worked for over 200 years now, its pathetic to think ANY issue is above it.
/r/MensRights09/12/13 04:15 AM
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I've had this debate with a feminist before. Their answer was there is no BAC level you can point to because every person is different, and that ability to consent should be held to a higher standard than ability to drive. Lol
/r/MensRights05/12/13 11:49 PM
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The only thing this does is make it easier to doubt accusations, real or fake. They complain non stop about society never believing rape claims, then they turn around and try to undermine some fundamental building blocks of the American legal system. Do that all you want, but don't complain when people remain skeptical to accusations.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 11:46 PM
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I think in your instance, you can do/say whatever you want because him suing you for libel would require an investigation into the actual case to see whether or not the claims were true. Obviously he doesn't want that. I don't know how unique your situation is, but I think someone admitting something to your face gives you enough grounds to speak about it. Challenging them for libel means the actual issue would get investigated.
/r/MensRights05/12/13 11:44 PM
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The crux of the matter that gets ignored every time stuff like this occurs is; Feminists shout empowerment, strength and equality from the rooftops 24/7... Yet when you find them defending the points made in this article, they're simply endorsing weakness. Once alcohol gets involved, all women can ever do is resist coercion... and if they give in its not their fault because they were drinking. You're basically saying that women never really have a say in sex to begin with, EVEN when they consent…
/r/MensRights05/12/13 06:05 AM
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Making a statement about your rights by trying to remove the rights of another is not an effective way to make your statement, nor is it right.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 07:31 AM
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I guess I'm never going to understand why stuff like this is considered such a big deal.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 07:24 AM
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I for one am totally in favor of this sort of writing. The stupider christians make themselves look on a regular basis, the sooner we can stop taking them seriously.
/r/MensRights04/12/13 07:17 AM
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The utter lack of personal responsibility now a days is pathetic
/r/MensRights27/11/13 02:32 AM
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You're delving far deeper into this than I think is necessary.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 09:35 PM
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Whether or not you believe the accuracy of the 'narrative' as you put it, equality is very much an objective truth when it comes to legal rights. At the end of the day, women didn't have the same legal rights as men, they wanted them, they fought and they got them. I think that was a fight worth having; but the new aged 21st century idea of social engineering to change perception is something I don't agree with at all.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 09:28 PM
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I figured since I explicitly said that kids should not be diagnosed or treated, you would understand that I think 'parameters' can only be established among adults. Apparently not. So again, I don't agree with the 'majority, the major majority, or ADHD diagnoses' because as you said, they are kids. Just because I think its a real disorder that can affect adults doesn't mean I think we should try to treat it in childhood.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 09:13 PM
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Again, as I've said multiple times, I don't think its right to diagnose or treat ADHD in children for the reasons you said. I have no interest in establishing a normal for developing children, thats ridiculous.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 09:09 PM
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I mean I don't think its unreasonable to say that if the bar for 'equality' is as simple as voting rights, ability to hold public office, ability to make decisions about ones body, then yes you can make a case that women were historically 'oppressed'. Thats why I agree with the idea of equity feminism, it seeks only to level the legal playing field, nothing more. I also think, as I said, that equity feminism has done its job and equality in a legal sense has been achieved. Beyond that, I'm not q…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 09:06 PM
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We can't, but we can attempt to establish parameters of what constitutes normal behavior and try to treat the outliers. Again, while I don't believe as you do that ADHD is a load of shit, I do believe the 'parameters' we've established for children are utterly ridiculous and irresponsible.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 08:57 PM
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I'm not a doctor. We don't understand the brain fully, but just because we can't explain EXACTLY what causes something doesn't mean we're incapable of acknowledging it exists.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 08:53 PM
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Again, I agree. I think social engineering is a waste of time, its something the feminist movement can't get their heads around. Equity feminism came and did its job, females obtained the same rights by and large as men and most people were happy. But now they're trying to rewrite societal views on everything from how we perceive promiscuity to body hair. It'll never get any traction because you can't convince people their preconceived notions of everything are objectively wrong.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 08:49 PM
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I would disagree, but regardless diagnosing an 8 year old boy with ADHD is a cop out by people in the medical field. I've taken the drugs prescribed for ADHD more time than I can count; it is not the kind of thing kid should be taking.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 08:44 PM
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Maybe I'm biased because I have a dick, or just simply unimaginative, but I can't really understand how men bear the responsibility for this. Its ridiculous, if women want to engage in a pissing contest to see who can dress the sluttiest go ahead, but men aren't forcing you to do it.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 08:41 PM
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Its not a bullshit disorder at all, but it is thrown around as a silver bullet to explain why boys don't like sitting still all day; thats wrong.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 08:36 PM
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Agreed.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 08:20 PM
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I would agree with this mentality almost entirely. This movement has the foundations to do a whole lot of good and facilitate a whole lot of positive change, but I don't think its in the position to do so right now.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 08:17 PM
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I think theres a tangible difference between saying you don't agree with feminism, and saying you're against what it once stood for. I think feminism still has real issues to fight for, but they're being rendered incapable of doing so because they've let stupid ideas like 'slut-shaming' become a core part of the platform. I don't want the same to happen with men's rights activism. And I don't think the angry white male trope is in any way representative of the world or the movement; that doesn't…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 08:13 PM
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Let me give an analogy. I'm an atheist, and I want to live in a society where atheism is accepted and understood, which right now, it isn't. I tend to butt heads with people who get into fights over things like taking the word 'god' out of the pledge of allegiance, because in my mind its a minor issue which does more to harm the public perception of atheism than help it. I'd rather focus efforts on the good that atheists in society can and are doing, combined with pointing out the evil which rel…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 08:04 PM
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I think this viewpoint is part of the problem. Do you really think we can succeed in fighting for equality when we completely flip the issue (Whether or not its true) and point the finger back at women? In my opinion, the goal should be pushing idea's which the average person could get behind, and arguing that women initiate domestic violence more often than men doesn't strike me as such an idea. Whether or not women do initiate violence more often (even if its a statistical fact), I don't think…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 07:56 PM
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I don't mean to say I think this is a poor time for the movement, I believe 100% it should exist. But I do also believe that the approach needs to be more thought out, if the end goal is to actually fix some issues. We have plenty of real issues that the average bystander could get behind, and also some more fringe, controversial ones. I think most great movements in the past which have succeeded have done so in part because they focused on 'win-able' issues, and I think we'd do well to identify…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 07:50 PM
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Only in that the extreme's on the spectrum inhibit our ability to identify with the average person and convince people we're only concerned with equality. Thats my take at least.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 07:45 PM
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Maybe that will be the case. I've generally been a general lurker here, I find myself identifying with some key issues, but not all of them.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 07:44 PM
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Historically I couldn't disagree more. All of the great movements in the past have had leaders, clearly defined objectives, and a platform the layman could understand and identify with.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 07:42 PM
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I'm not sure I would agree that all exposure is good exposure, but overall we mostly seem to be arguing semantics.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 05:21 PM
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I guess maybe good/bad wasn't the best terminology. Is it causing harm to the world? Probably not, but I do think its damaging our platform and hurting our ability to make the world a more equal place.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 05:20 PM
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I'm well aware of the diversity of the group, but when you see news coverage of the movement what is the typical person representing us like? Anger isn't in and of itself useful, it needs to be channeled and directed to have an effect; and I'm not sure we've been doing that as effectively as we could be.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 05:14 PM
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Lets get something straight here champ, I'm not some pacifist pussy who wants to wave the white flag. I've got another reddit account which I reserve solely for arguing against certain feminist points until I'm blue in the face. The point of my post was to ask a question about what our ultimate goals are as a movement, and evaluate whether we're doing the best job right now facilitating that change. You have every right to be angry, plenty of people here do. But anger doesn't get stuff done all …
/r/MensRights26/11/13 05:11 PM
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Not 'bad' so to speak, or even wrong for that matter. But they're not very effective at selling our platform. There were plenty of angry black people during the civil rights movement, but ultimately a more calm, metered movement was what facilitated change.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 05:08 PM
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I'm not disagreeing with you, I believe the fundamental goal of the movement is justified and important to society. I was merely wondering out loud whether we're also not spinning the tires in our infancy. Like it or not, I do feel like right now the movement is associated with the 'Angry white men' stereotype, whether or not this could have been avoided is another question entirely. But as I said before, I think the movement is lacking leadership to guide both direction and perception in the pu…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 05:01 PM
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They call the idea of acknowledging domestic abuse against men 'derailing'? Not the feminists I've seen, but granted there are plenty of nuts out there.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 04:48 PM
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As far as I'm concerned, its given a platform for some ridiculous, sexist assholes to spout nonsense about women. I don't think they represent the goals of the movement at all, but the mere name association isn't helping us change anyones mind. Edit- Searching for examples right now, can't name any off the top of my head but I'll find some Edit2- This guy comes to mind as someone I'm thinking of http://planetivy.com/dogma/75246/i-met-tom-martin-britains-most-hated-male-rights-activist/ Obviously…
/r/MensRights26/11/13 04:34 PM
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This is a very good point. I guess my only contention/concern would be that long term, we probably need to be more than what you described to facilitate meaningful change.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 04:32 PM
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Do they seriously make that argument, even in the presence of evidence like this?
/r/MensRights26/11/13 04:22 PM
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Since this app came out, I've known how hilariously hypocritical it was and always chucked at the shit storm that would erupt if a male version was made. At the same time, my roommates and I think its a riot to read through and we're always trying to beat one another's ratings. Hate it in principle, love it in reality.
/r/MensRights26/11/13 04:08 PM
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http://www.xojane.com/it-happened-to-me/daisy-coleman-maryville-rape This case exemplifies part of the point I'm trying to make here. What happened to this girl is horrific, and the perpetrators should be punished severely. This case to me is not the same as a drunken college hookup, where parties consented to things under the influence that they might not have otherwise... there was no consent here at all. She was accused of being a liar because our society views what happened to her in the sam…
/r/MensRights18/10/13 11:56 PM
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I would argue that rape is as bad, if not even slightly worse personally, thats just based on my own personal experience and how I've seen it impact the victims lives. Depriving someone of their life is awful obviously, but I think poisoning someones life with a single act is just as bad, if not even more harmful. Obviously though, both are terrible, I don't think we need to get hung up on semantics of which evil deed is more evil. And yes I'm aware there is laws against it, I just don't think t…
/r/MensRights18/10/13 11:17 PM
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Literally the first thing I say is- 'A close friend of mine in highschool was brutally raped around the age of 13 by her uncle. In my mind, that represents the most horrific act one human being could ever do to another, and god help me/him (sarcastic) if we ever find ourselves in a room together' Clearly you didn't fucking read a word I have to say, so by all means leave and don't bother us again.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 01:39 PM
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Interesting, I wasn't aware of the history behind this sort of thing.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 08:48 AM
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My first point was that the word rape in and of itself negates any differentiation we might have today, basically that we probably need a different word to define some of those cases I spoke about. Secondly I completely agree. Its a very dangerous gray area you start traversing when you talk about invalid consent, and I believe that's in fact where 95% of the rape debates we have today reside. Unfortunately, I also think we're completely unprepared to define the conclusions we might reach, given…
/r/MensRights17/10/13 08:16 AM
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Its both. I apologize for calling you a dumbass earlier, that was uncalled for, but how can you not see that its both? He was raped, but he couldn't admit it to himself or to others because of the society we live in. I would say 'violated by the patriarchy' is a bit extreme, but men live in a culture where 'male rape is a myth', I don't see how thats so different from what she was initially espousing. It ends up seeming like we're arguing two sides of the same coin.
/r/MensRights17/10/13 07:30 AM
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There is nothing feminist about her argument you dumbass. People shouldn't get raped, and if that happens, they shouldn't feel scared coming fourth to report the crime. Thats literally all she said, wtf is feminist about that?
/r/MensRights17/10/13 06:19 AM
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There seems to be this fundamental misunderstanding that some (NOT ALL) but some feminists and women alike hold. Thats the idea that you can act however you want while drunk, yet have a right to be upset by how people think of you the next morning. Thats just not right, you have to bear responsibility for your actions. Having said that, the number of false stereotypes she raises are ridiculous. The desire to fuck someone does not connect to your desire to date someone. Just because a guy isn't t…
/r/MensRights17/10/13 04:12 AM
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Thats another thing to note here, its a lot harder for this girl to make her case when regardless of whether or not she was able to give lawful consent, she broke the law in a whole different and emberassing manner.
/r/MensRights16/10/13 09:05 PM
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In principle I agree, but in practice I think the school would strongly urge her to drop the allegations. Its one thing to claim something happened in the privacy of a dorm room, its another to have video of it happening in public with witnesses. Even though the school might call it rape, if this story would gain traction in the media, there would probably be more than a few people who objected to that label based on the video. Its hard to play the victim when you're a documented willing partici…
/r/MensRights16/10/13 08:37 PM
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The saving grace is that with the amount of evidence, footage and witnesses on hand, this is likely not going to go anywhere. It'll probably get ignored, which means that the girl making (it seems) false rape accusations will go ignored as well which isn't necessarily right, but I'm much less inclined to get pissed off as long as nothing happens to the guy either.
/r/MensRights16/10/13 07:54 PM
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