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Edu./Occu.To_me_my_board/r/MensRights11/04/20 01:55 PM
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You mean agree with you without support of evidence or argumentation? Straw man again. I'm not saying you need to agree with me to critically examine your views. Let me first pretend, like you have throughout, that I have the high road, all the relevant knowledge, and am correct beyond reproach. Where did I say I was beyond reproach? Is this another strawman? Look.. you keep moving around, changing your position, relying on logical fallacies and then expect what? You say that you didn't say ever…
/r/MensRights17/04/20 01:38 AM
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Nope... now I'm going to call you out for your cherry picking, also known as the fallacy of incomplete evidence. That declaration was signed by 68 women and 32 men. Not ever feminist. Therefore, it does not represent the sentiments of all feminists. It was signed over 150 years ago and none of the signatories are currently alive. You also assume 'he' is equal to all me. You may be surprised to realize this, but not all feminists agree on all points. Just as you and I both support MRA, we still h…
/r/MensRights16/04/20 11:02 PM
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I recommend you do some research before suggesting others do it. "Patriarchy oppresses women" does not equal "patriarchy benefits all men". Any number of feminists point to how patriarchal constructs of masculinity often stunt men's emotional modes of expression and mental health. But if you want to put everything in simple binaries because you can be bothered to understand nuances of systems of oppression and then accuse others of being ignorant... go ahead. Project your caricatures and then at…
/r/MensRights16/04/20 07:59 PM
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liberations is an exaggeration You are changing your argument now. Before is that they weren't oppressed. Then it was they were only oppressed for four years longer than working-class men in New Zealand, and now they are just exaggerating their oppression. your view on the subject is completely infallible I never said any such thing. Another straw man. I'm open to having a conversation, just not one that is done in bad faith and relies on logical fallacies. I didn't say you were dumb. I said you…
/r/MensRights16/04/20 03:41 PM
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Everyone was oppressed to varying degrees. Yes... to varying degrees and for different reasons: gender, race, class. Which is why there is an MRA forum and a feminist forum because both groups experience different forms of oppression. Straw might sound like a buzz word to you because you use the fallacy. Like moving the goal post (which you've done here). I didn't accuse you of straw manning for your example. That was cherry picking. I've clearly laid out the rational explaining your fallacies. …
/r/MensRights16/04/20 01:30 PM
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Yet benefits all men. They assumed all men are doing it to all women. So... here's the thing. This is a straw man. Who exactly is arguing that the system benefits all men? Or that all men are doing it to all women? With an opening like that, I can't even be bothered to read the rest of what you wrote.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 01:24 PM
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They weren’t oppressed in the way feminists today claim them to be. So they were? Or weren't? Define “equal work” ... you’re viewing this through their lens. Ok... doing the same job, with the same level of experience, at the same level. Let's say, on an assembly line. Everybody has to work at the same speed. If somebody is being paid less based on gender or colour, is that not oppression? And this was not guaranteed for women until equal-pay-for-equal work legislation came in. It wasn’t “men” w…
/r/MensRights16/04/20 03:13 AM
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I'm happy to respond to anything of substance that you have to share, but there's not really much I have to say to somebody who is just essentially saying "You're wrong" without validating their position.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 12:34 AM
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So women weren't oppressed? They've always had the right to vote as long as men have? They've always had equal pay for equal work? Got it. And as for your reference to capitalism and the wealth gap, yes, the working class is oppressed by the ruling classes. That's kind of how the system works. Their money get unfair political influence.
/r/MensRights16/04/20 12:33 AM
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If I were to agree the this statement, sure. But feminism isn't built on the assumption that all men oppress women; it's built on the assumption that a patriarchal system marginalizes women. And given that it was the first wave of feminism that got women the right to vote, and the second that got them equal pay for equal work, any objective person can look at that and say... yeah... they were getting a raw deal. Just like any objective person can look at sentencing practices in the judicial syst…
/r/MensRights16/04/20 12:30 AM
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Oh... I see... women have never been oppressed; men have. Got it.
/r/MensRights15/04/20 03:02 AM
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I think part of the issue here is we are of the same mind on a lot but are looking at things slightly differently. For example, you say Except, "Men" and "Women" are not social groups or classes. Men&Women co-exist and are co-dependent. They are different social groups. That is an objective truth. They have different cultures even. And we are also co-dependent. The two are not mutually exclusive. This is the same in cases of class. The working, middle, and ruling classes are, I think you will ag…
/r/MensRights15/04/20 12:31 AM
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I'd say feminism is as much a hate movement as MRA or any human rights movement. Any time you have a group of people who have been marginalized in some manner, there is going to be animosity toward the group that is perceived as the oppressor. There are, for example, many divorced fathers who have been victims of parental alienation and a biased court system, and such a devastating emotional experience can cause one to collectively see women as a homogeneous group of oppressors. The same can be …
/r/MensRights14/04/20 06:10 PM
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Well... both sides of the political spectrum do this. Trump claimed Bill Clinton was a rapist and paraded his accusers, but when his SCOTUS pick was accused, he suddenly wanted due process. With Biden (whom I am NOT a fan of), I know the Time went and interviewed a number of people, and they have done the same with Trump. What they turned up is what they turned up, and frankly, most of the headlines for Biden is 'Biden accused of sexual assault' and not 'Lack of substance for Biden sexual assaul…
/r/MensRights14/04/20 05:29 PM
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I wonder why they left off Kim Kielsen, PM of Greenland. As of vie days ago, it was the only place on the planet (outside of Antarctica) that had no COVID-19 cases. ;-)
/r/MensRights14/04/20 01:52 PM
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I don't see an issue with this. r/MRA is a men's rights forum, so we discuss issues that we encounter. Women have their own unique set of issues, and one of them is the stereotype that women do not make good leaders. I don't think anybody on this subreddit would deny that to be a stereotype that many people hold, and even if it is a minority, it is a vocal and sometimes influential minority. If some feminists want to take time to praise female leaders who are doing a good job at handling a crisi…
/r/MensRights14/04/20 01:50 PM
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I never laughed once. And those kids were so obnoxious. The two older ones at least. My parents used to watch this show constantly. That and Mama's Family, and I couldn't for the life of me understand how anybody could enjoy their shows. To each their own.
/r/MensRights13/04/20 12:11 AM
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I wouldn't have banned you either, but do you genuinely not know that LGBTQ+ kids have parents who reject them on the sole basis on their sexual identity? I mean, the answer is obvious. You might as well as everybody on here why they are advocating for men's rights and not everybody's rights.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 01:09 AM
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According to Wikipedia, "A rhetorical question is one for which the questioner does not expect a direct answer: in many cases it may be intended to start a discourse, or as a means of putting across the speaker's or author's opinion on a topic." I recommend looking up the words facetious, bad faith, and troll while you're at it. Cheers!
/r/MensRights12/04/20 12:55 AM
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So... let's sort this out. A person who is from a marginalized community or who empathizes with said community shared a post to support that community, and you felt the need to make a snide comment about that because his comment wasn't a general statement about children? And now MRA is supposed to see this as an MRA issue? And why are you sharing this here? This subreddit does the EXACT same thing you are criticizing this guy for doing. It creates a forum for discussing issues that impact a spec…
/r/MensRights12/04/20 12:51 AM
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Just because they believe in equality doesn't mean they aren't allow to raise concerns that their community experiences. There is nothing wrong with publicly empathizing with a group of people who are experiencing something that is unique to their own group, even if other groups have parallel experiences.
/r/MensRights12/04/20 12:41 AM
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