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They mean it gives them a certain strong, positive emotion. I think you missed this word in my comment. Love is a specific emotion, not any positive emotion, obviously. It would also be entirely possible to add caveats, for instance that love doesn't always feel positive, it's just positive in general. Even so, that's not the point being made. The point was that while it is obviously true that we technically enjoy the feeling of loving someone, not the person themselves, that is what we MEAN by …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 02:50 AM
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I define "love" as a mixture of happy feelings that people get when interacting with others. But people misaim these feelings, you don't love the person, you "love" how you feel. Well yeah, no fucking shit Sherlock. When I feel happy eating donuts, I enjoy the feeling in my brain, not the donut itself. But if eating donuts reliably triggers that feeling, I'm still going to say that I love donuts, because that's what people mean when they say they love things. They mean it gives them a certain st…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 11:40 AM
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It would probably help (for everyone's comprehension) if you included the tactics he tried to use on you in your comment Because right now your comment is "his tactics to sleep with me didn't work" but then you don't actually list any indication he was trying to sleep with you, just other things about his life
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 05:37 PM
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Bro, this thread of full of you saying "read my Xth paragraph" and "I linked a study" when those paragraphs & the study you cite have absolutely no relevance to their rebuttal to you. Stop pretending others are illiterate just so you can dodge debate. You came here of your own volition.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 02:33 AM
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Also men are more competitive in general, especially when it comes to competing for mates. We want a woman who hasn’t been ‘ran through’ by a bunch of dudes. There are few things more emotionally devastating for a man than thinking about the love of your life getting plowed by other guys. It’s also completely antithetical to evolution, as it would increase the likeliness of someone else knocking her up. Sure, but you can also make an evolutionary psych argument the other way, too; you might expe…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/23 10:31 AM
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Okay. I would suggest you meet up with OP and touch some grass together. Maybe therapy. Sending love, dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:20 PM
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You don't need to be in the top 10% of the dating market to realise that PPD makes absolutely absurd & toxic generalisations about both sexes that often don't match reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 04:07 PM
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Ah, the age old "pretend others are illiterate" tactic. I read your post, and I'm telling you that your view that preventing a relationship from becoming boring is unrealistic clearly indicates that you yourself are boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:07 AM
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Yes, and I'm talking about you. Congratulations, you have passed primary school reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 10:05 AM
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Once she gets bored for too long and too frequently, it's basically over and she will find some other clown to keep her entertained. ... yes? People can and should leave boring relationships where their partner doesn't make them feel good. What the hell were you expecting from dating?! Sex slavery?!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:56 AM
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Just because I recognise that women have unrealistic expectations If keeping your relationship from becoming boring is unrealistic then you are an incredibly dull human being You don't speak for the rest of us, man. Go pick up a hobby and get a personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:55 AM
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Because women generally demand more to keep them entertained than men. With men, sex is enough to keep them from being bored in the relationship. Wow you got low standards bro
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:54 AM
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I don't know what you're talking about saying I already admiteded it. I haven't. The odd thing is often the guy has to be rich and good looking OR have some other kind of social status such as gang membership, some respected position in society, a club, a volubteer organization etc. something beaides just looks. You have literally stated that women require traits other than physical attraction for casual sex. It is right there. I'm quoting it to you. Repeatedly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:54 AM
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I mean that is not obvious to me at all (that casual sex isn't just physical attraction). Yes it is. Again, you've already stated it: The odd thing is often the guy has to be rich and good looking OR have some other kind of social status such as gang membership, some respected position in society, a club, a volubteer organization etc. something beaides just looks. Women very, very obviously find non-physical traits attractive as well and may require them for casual sex. There's no debate here, y…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:17 AM
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Why are you single?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:02 AM
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The odd thing is often the guy has to be rich and good looking OR have some other kind of social status such as gang membership, some respected position in society, a club, a volubteer organization etc. something beaides just looks. Which makes no sense as casual sex is only about physical attraction. So... obviously casual sex is not only about physical attraction, if women are valuing these other qualities. You've just answered your own question. If you don't experience sexual attraction towar…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 03:00 AM
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Buddy, you need to learn to spell and use a comma properly if you want to be engaged in argument. And no, I am not going to waste my time explaining to you why it's perfectly rational to believe that something has both benefits and harms, or why you don't need to distil it to a black and white decision. What an absolutely insane line of argumentation you have chosen to defend — out of all the possible critiques of women, feminism, or sex positivity you could have chosen... you chose to critique …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:28 PM
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I see no reason why they are against it or even not neutral on it thou because if they are happy the money is going to women that's cool , your nuance fails because motivation for them being agaisnt it makes no sense You haven't actually provided any argument here, you've just said words denying that reasons for disliking it exists. It is very clear that people critique it based on its incentivisation of self-objectification, exploitative revenue models, reinforcement (on a societal level) of ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 02:55 PM
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If men refused to give money/attention to onlyfans models, porn and prostitution and only dated women for sex, nudes, etc. it would only increase competition among men and raise women’s standards even higher. Not really. Most women would rather be alone than date the kind of loser guy now paying for OF instead of dating. Accordingly, if he did start trying to date women again, he wouldn't really be making the market more competitive (as he's not being considered by women either way), nor allow a…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 04:29 AM
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What a fucking hilariously bad take You're unwilling to read anything longer than a bite-sized-ADHD-friendly blog, so you want to prohibit others from contributing high effort material? Just so you don't have to stomach the thought of - GASP - others being able to engage with the world as they like, while you close the tab in embarassment? Come on, man. Your frustration with high-school level reading is your problem to deal with, not anyone else's.
/r/TheRedPill09/04/23 05:08 AM
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Straight men don't have PURELY platonic friendships with women, any man who says that they do is capping. This says more about you and the people you hang out with than it does about men in general lol I have plenty of absolutely platonic female friends I'd never date. I mean, wouldn't it be exhausting to be attracted to everyone you want to hang out with? I actually can't fathom that and I have a pretty high sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 10:12 AM
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CMV : Women are so militant and unforgiving with guys they're dating because they’re almost 100 percent confident “their perfect man” is waiting for them in the future Do you actually talk to women...? Plenty of my female friends are super nervous about whether they'll meet the right guy or not. Additionally, what the hell kind of woman are you pursuing to find all your dates militant & unforgiving? I'm by no means the perfect guy but I can barely think of any of my dates that have been hostile …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/23 09:53 AM
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Which leads me to think that having money itself isn’t enough to keep a pretty girl. You gotta either be attractive or have a fun personality because having money is a baseline requirement not a +++ Nah, there are millions of guys dating pretty girls with barely any money. Doesn't sound like it's particularly helping you, either, since you're only able to attract a certain (not so intelligent) niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/23 12:39 PM
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They might not ask you, but they'll certainly approach guys they're interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/23 06:36 AM
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It's exactly the opposite lol, go reread. It's literally an entirely statistical approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:54 AM
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I already gave you plenty of reasons people might not get laid. In fact, more than you've volunteered yourself! We're all on the same page here. Young people are having sex less. That's compatible with both our views.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 05:25 AM
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Yes...? Go to a club. Plenty of boring or ugly or poor people hooking up. Random sex has been the entertainment of the proles for millenia. It's not hard, it's just also not going to happen staying at home and not even trying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 04:37 AM
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Most men aren’t happy if they have casual sex one time or even once a year My man, if you can't get laid once a week by going out, your standards are way above your actual league. There are plenty of regular dudes going home with regular girls. Just go to a club and look around. Plenty of... not conventionally attractive people... hooking up together. The guys that aren't getting it frequently largely aren't actually trying, just sitting around at home and hoping it will come to them. Of course …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 04:02 AM
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You're conflating "men can't have casual sex as often as they would like to" with "it is unlikely that a man will EVER get casual sex". This isn't a very good argument. It is almost certain that if I roll a d20, I won't roll a 6. However, if I roll it 100x, it is almost certain that I will roll a 6. Similarly, no, the odds aren't great of an unattractive man getting casual sex on any one time he tries. But the odds are extremely good that he'll get laid eventually. The only men who don't get lai…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/23 02:42 AM
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Nope! Completely accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 07:31 PM
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Yeah, a lot of guys are in denial about this. Even if 'Chad' is taking the girls you are most attracted to, there are quite obviously still plenty of single girls out there. If you can't even get a date with one, it's because you aren't offering net positive value compared to that girl doing whatever else she wants. You're mostly not competing against other guys for female attention. You're competing against her going out with her friends, studying for college, travelling or backpacking, watchin…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/23 02:50 AM
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No one forces anyone to get into relationships Uh I hate to break it to you man but literal coercion is probably the norm worldwide, let alone soft social coercion Touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:46 PM
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It always seems crazy to me that this is the study most often cited here to support this hypothesis. The scientific literature indicating that men are attracted to younger women is overwhelmingly strong. It's trivial to find studies on real world dating preferences, perceived attractiveness, reported sexual partners, representation in pornography, etc. that all point to this conclusion. So why the hell are people so obsessed with a 2014 book on data from a dating site, written by one of the dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 09:44 PM
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Lol not even close. The default of society, pre-agriculture, was essentially pre-market capitalism. Largely even persisted in tribal economies and only really 'fell' when feudalism became the status quo. Meanwhile, China had its Silk Road, the Persians and Phoenicians were famous traders, etc etc. The West as we understand it today didn't even come close to pioneering capitalism. Western civilization didn't even pioneer the State; the Qi dynasty had many more markers of full statehood than, say,…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/23 12:05 AM
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My overall understanding of your OP is you believe the two forms of cheating are valued differently, and that it should actually be reversed. No. My argument is that one common chain of reasoning (the evolutionary argument) for them being valued radically differently is not good reasoning and doesn't support that conclusion. I make no particular claim about the conclusion itself. You're only working within the confines of "the evolutionary assessment" as a convenient conceptual framework... I am…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:44 PM
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I didn't even bother reading all of them Okay, then I won't read your comments either. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 10:41 PM
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Women cheating still fundamentally lower his long term reproductive success to a much higher degree than he is likely to lower hers if he cheats I provided lots of analysis as to why this isn't the case, so simply asserting it isn't convincing. Men are much more likely to divorce cheater then women are... duh. This doesn't appear to be true from the closest applicable study I could find: For example, men claim that they wanted the divorce more in 41.7% of divorces in which they admit to having h…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 09:58 PM
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Boys with absent fathers tend to be more aggressive and promiscuous than those with present fathers. Daughters also tend to be more promiscuous when the have absent fathers I am interested in a citation on the former, if you have one. (Not disputing it, just interested)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 09:24 PM
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Okay. How do you believe that affects the arguments made?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 08:24 PM
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I interpret this as you claiming infidelity damages a man's reproductive fitness in the long term. You even italicised me saying it was a threat to her. How did you interpret that sentence as claiming it was damage to men, instead? I am talking about a person's (J) infidelity affecting the long term genetic lineage of their primary partner (B) and how that changes if J & B are male/female or vice versa. Not how J's infidelity affects his own success, or how B's infidelity affects her own success…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 08:14 PM
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you're trying to argue that infidelity isn't fitness maximizing No, again, I have not commented at all on whether infidelity affects fitness for the person cheating, or how. Again, the claim is in the thread title and last paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 08:00 PM
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Thank you for the very thoughtful contribution. I am understanding the key summary of the purpose of your contribution as this: The below argument contradicts your view by pointing out that promiscuity on the part of either should be judged the same because both equally damage the family unit, and therefore the persistence of a prosperous civilization. Given that my thread is primarily focused around rebutting one specific argument for promiscuity not being judged close to equally for both sexes…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:57 PM
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That's a bizarre way of thinking. Infidelity isn't something that's socially constructed. It happens cross-culturally and cross-species even in mammals that are closer to monogamy like gibbons where you still see infidelity especially from the male. Sure, I agree there. I don't think that particularly undermines the evolutionary argument or my rebuttals to it, just changes framing away from the evolutionary argument. If infidelity wasn't fitness maximizing it wouldn't be a prevalent as it is. Bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:47 PM
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You can't suggest that fathers are worthless and expendable and also important and necessary. Okay. I would never argue the former, especially as a guy myself, so I'm going to take your comment as frustration venting rather than a rebuttal to the OP case.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:29 PM
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That could be a thread of its own, but for the purposes of this thread, long enough term propagation of one's genetics to be evolutionarily relevant. That, of course, necessitates making it beyond a few generations, and so predictable damages to reproductive prospects in the next few generations are especially relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:27 PM
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Historically men with multiple women were powerful, rich and competent enough to provide for all children with any woman. This would, in my view, not be particularly relevant to the evolutionary argument as expressed. While powerful men with harems have existed in human history, we only really have evidence of that model in the last few thousand years; not a particularly evolutionary timescale. Single motherhood is by far the worse statistical disadvantage in any social and economic indicator fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:25 PM
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None of those. It is in the thread title: that the most common evolutionary argument for male infidelity being a far lower generic threat is quite weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/23 07:21 PM
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I don't know, would you be more comfortable working a 9-5 or being raped by someone who does?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:29 AM
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That's... that's exactly his point. Modern and safe society exists in 2023 because we established a useful social contract, and only exists in areas where it is upheld. If it failed, we'd go right back to harder realpolitik.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/23 04:28 AM
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If you're having problems, your standards aren't at your league. You're less attractive than you think (as most people are, nothing personal).
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 06:23 AM
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... some people do have sexual urges that strong. I don't know what your objection is. The limiting factor to all this for someone with an insatiable appetite would be time and practicality, not desire. Big difference between your examples - having quickies 4x a day is maybe an hour of time total and easy to fit in at home. 8x a day is possible but starting to get tougher to find time for, and the masturbating at work would get them fired. Honestly, have you actually had sex before? It's not som…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:37 AM
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What do you think 'insatiably' means, exactly? Yes, someone with an impossible-to-satisfy sexual appetite would definitely be having sex very frequently if possible. Are you confusing 'insatiable' for another word, maybe?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 02:10 AM
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Open with an insult. Always a good start. Saying you haven't been insatiably drawn to someone else isn't an insult, they were just being factual. There's plenty of time for cohabiting people who feel that way to have sex multiple times, so you probably haven't been (or at least not lived with that person)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/23 01:19 AM
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So with point 1, the question being asked is: if she isn't high value, then what is in terms of a woman, and furthermore, can these red pill men obtain such a high value woman? This would be a completely separate question to anything about AWALT so you've still lost me on this one. And with point 2, the question is: is the red pill hurting men by placing all these terminologies on women that locks out the young men and sends them down the wrong path And this is just a uselessly leading question …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/23 12:02 AM
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Your thread framing is a bit of a mess but your point seems to be either: Why do men think AWALT is true, when it isn't?... or Why do men who know AWALT is not true apply it anyway, voluntarily hurting themselves? If your point is 1, well, okay. But I'm not sure what you are hoping to accomplish. You haven't provided any evidence or rationale to convince a guy who believes that (let alone evidence/rationale they haven't heard before), so you're not even really asking them anything. You've stated…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/23 01:57 PM
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This isn't new to OLD... dating has been a concept for centuries
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/23 10:03 AM
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I always find it so bizarre that people here will *genuinely* argue: Height doesn't matter at all.. only FACE matters! You're an idiot, face doesn't matter at all... only WEALTH matters! Fucking lol dude, wealth doesn't matter... only BODY gets girls And so on, bickering in this way, all of you so determined to reduce everything to a \stupidly** reductionist worldview, each insisting that the other person's reductionist worldview is what makes them delusional. No, dude, you're all equally delusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/23 04:50 AM
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Why are you trying so hard to change the topic of the thread
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/23 03:59 AM
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Bars, clubs, parties, same as everyone else. Being classy doesn't mean you're antisocial or unable to adjust to society lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 08:23 PM
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The difference is that I date to marry, not for fun Sounds like a rock solid way for both of you to develop resentment over wasted, boring 20s I also think my partner is entitled to being the only woman I’ve ever touched Nothing like being a deliberately inexperienced lover to really get a woman going! I'm sure she'll love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 08:21 PM
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I'm not asking you who insults people, why, or under what conditions. I'm asking you who makes the posts about sex being so difficult to get, if not involuntarily celibate men. Who?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 03:21 AM
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Do you ever actually step outside and validate your delusions against reality? Like... anyone who has been to a festival or beach or athletic game in the last year with friends would easily be able to validate otherwise. Girls will happily find virtually every player on some sports teams attractive, for instance. Do you not have close female friends to chat to about this stuff?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/23 12:33 AM
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Aw poor baby didn't like a meme Cope
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 10:02 AM
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it's maybe 100 words mate you'll survive, I know kindergarten was tough
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 08:24 AM
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So you're saying the men that do find it easy to get sex are therefore the most moral of us?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 06:41 AM
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You've gravely misread somewhere so I'll go very slowly for you. This was his contention: If you think about it, if women didn't have a natural inclination to look for strange dick, we would have all been inbred within a couple of generations m out Hunter and gatherer, small tribe stage of evolution. In pure logical form, this is a very basic implied modus tollens argument: if P, then Q. Not Q, therefore not P. Or: if women had no natural inclination to look elsewhere (P), we'd have all been inb…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/23 04:44 AM
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TALK about an inauspicious beginning. For thousands of years our ancestors lived in small, isolated populations, leaving them severely inbred This is the very first sentence. Do you know what the word 'ancestor' means? (Of course you fucking don't, apparently, but you clearly also barely read the article which also discusses humans) I don't think I've ever had reading comprehension criticised by someone who didn't even complete the first sentence of an article properly. Well done, that's a first…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:50 PM
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I mean I'm a bit confused as to the need because this is high school level science, but okay
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 10:14 PM
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I hate to break it to you, but that inbreeding is exactly what anthropologists and biologists believe happened lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:48 PM
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Indeed, constantly complaining about reality and wishing it were different is basically the DEFINITION of not adjusting well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 09:47 PM
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I'd guess the exact opposite; good quality people aren't browsing shitty clickbait sites filling out these sort of polls, so you get disproportionately higher responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 03:20 AM
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You responded to the wrong guy, u/OpeningInner483 is the one saying he doesn't want transactional relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 01:37 AM
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Oh are you one of those closeted dudes that uses PPD as a thinly veiled excuse to lavish praise on big dicks?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:06 AM
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You've really forgotten what subthread we are in huh The last comment is mockery
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/23 12:04 AM
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that cringe feeling is because the truth hurts
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:38 PM
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The fact that you think strong relationships are a 'bluepill' concept is going to doom you to the transactional relationships you say you don't want. You're welcome to not put the work in to being a good partnership prospect. People just won't date you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:37 PM
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What was the last book you read on building strong relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 11:17 PM
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Never did understand people who voluntarily dob themselves in for not having read anything before commenting Is there a faster way to signal your opinion is irrelevant? Probably not
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 10:41 PM
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Your problem, not mine dude. Hope life turns your way soon, ciao
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:39 PM
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If you want a hard truth, it's that most of the disadvantages guys complain about here (in this comic's case, height) will definitely hinder dating prospects but won't render you involuntarily celibate. Plenty of 2/10 guys have partners and kids and so on. If you are involuntarily celibate and not genetically deformed, you are responsible for that situation, too. Bad luck may play a role, absolutely, but fundamentally you'd be able to get laid if you didn't either have an unattractive identity o…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:38 PM
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How sad does your marriage have to be that you still spend your time putting down women online?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 09:14 PM
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Step outside sometime dude. Any shopping mall or city street will have thousands of below average dudes walking around with their partners, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 06:27 PM
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Very true. As a general rule, guys here who cry "only X,Y,Z matter to women" feel that way because they believe a) they lack X,Y,Z, but b) DO possess other good traits. The truth is more often that they lack plenty of other attractive traits as well, not just X,Y,Z, but are in denial about it. Plenty of the blackpill dudes here think they're getting rejected despite a great personality, for instance, and then when you ask them what their interests are it's always fucking gaming, SF/fantasy ficti…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/22 04:45 PM
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bro this is a debate sub and all you're giving is "False"?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 09:26 PM
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Not really, because everybody is still limited by time. If I have 10 girls on my radar currently interested in me, and I could increase that to 12 by being overly persistent, that ain't gonna make any difference to the number I actually sleep with. I work full time, have hobbies, etc; I might see 1-2 of those girls per week, tops, anyway. Meanwhile, dudes who are struggling for attention will hurt themselves by being too persistent - they become known as the local creep at the bar they go to, an…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/22 11:17 AM
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If women didn't want to date a psychopathic man, and he decides to go murdering women as a result, should women avoid blaming or criticising him?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/22 10:53 AM
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Can you maybe link to an example of someone denying that cheating ever occurs? Or that anybody is superficial and hypergamous? I haven't seen any, and it feels like you're strawmanning the other side of the debate a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/22 03:27 PM
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Just as a heads up, "I've got a bridge to sell you" is normally used to imply someone is gullible and will believe anything you say. In this case, it's the opposite — that user is NOT believing what you're saying. (So you wouldn't be able to sell them a bridge) It's a tricky one but it's the opposite of how you've used it, so it might be easier to remember next time at least :)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 03:44 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/22 04:05 AM
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Hypotheticals are useful for explaining concepts, not for proving their truth. If someone thinks that view is inaccurate, you haven't added anything contrary to convince them.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:05 PM
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The red pill is basically the study and analysis of the true nature of modern reality. Any philosophy with sweeping generalisations at its core (AWALT, AF/BB) is more interested in playing semantics with simulacra than actually investigating reality. Since the likes of Derrida, Baudrillard, Campbell, etc I'm not sure any serious scholar has thought reality is sufficiently modellable with such a basic framework as RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/22 02:00 PM
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This is a no-brainer for me. I'll take the maturity, intelligence, life stability of the 30 year old with the youthful (but still clearly adult) appearance of 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/22 02:22 PM
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So are you going to answer the question? Are they accusing you of not having a driver's licence when they ask to see one?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 09:48 AM
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When a police officer asks to see your driver's licence, are they accusing you of not having one, or just verifying that you do?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/22 05:51 AM
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Hm, alright. As a last comment, I would ask you to perform a moment of introspection here; a stranger at least professing to be a physicist has written quite a long and thoughtful comment giving you decent advice on how to get some tertiary level insight into experimental practice, pointed you towards some free scientific resources you can use, and correctly summarised the current state of physics. (You're welcome to run my summary past the physics sub and verify it.) In return, your approach ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 02:39 PM
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Again, your approach here (classing an entire topic as science or not science) is... well, antithetical to actual science. Trained scientists do not think in such rigid generalisations. I have read psychological papers that meet all the above criteria excellently, and I can think of at least a few prominent physics papers of peers of mine that I would argue fail 3/5. To call a paper that better adheres to the scientific method 'less scientific', simply because it regards the mind, would be poor …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 02:18 PM
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Again, this is a misunderstanding of science. Psychology has huge issues with replicability, multivariate analysis, and statistical significance, but that doesn't make it less science. The practice of science is a methodology, not a guarantee of useful outcome; one can do valid science with poor tools. Where a field stops being science is where you start deviating from the methodology, and psychology does about as well as any other field. If you take phenomenons like p-hacking or journal bias ag…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 10:53 AM
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This reads like a fundamental misunderstanding of science. Science is empirical, epistemological, and descriptive. It aims to describe the material world, and how we know facts about the material world. It is not normative. No biological or psychological journal makes any claims on what is moral or worthwhile. The closest it might get is assessing, for instance, how likely people are to conform to societal norms of morality - but the science and data itself cannot make claims about whether that …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/22 04:35 AM
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chill pizza & netflix guy All the generic girls like you are at home like you which is why you're not finding them Are you really surprised that people who are out and about want better?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/22 04:25 AM
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The OP is a Reddit post citing exactly zero evidence. Why should someone waste their time refuting an unsubstantiated claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/22 08:44 AM
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I don't do the same activities (or feel the same emotions) with my partners as I do with my friends lol As an example... Being romantically loved by more than one person is neat via the same principle as it being neat to be a good friend of more than one person.... but they aren't interchangeable. They're still qualitatively different experiences that play on similar but not identical needs; a person with 2000 friends but 0 dates would still likely desire to expand their romantic life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 03:08 AM
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Then you’re being hypocritical trying to put some standard on me while ignoring the fact that the entire context of the OP is them doing the exact same thing you accused me of doing Just relax man, obviously the OP should be careful of projection too. Everyone should. You have read WAY too much into me responding to you but not him lmao. Basically your entire response is a huge stretch. Take this for instance: Either way, you are arguing that my reasons for not wanting polygamy are wrong. Uh, no…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/22 01:28 AM
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That is literally what OP is doing. So please be consistent if you’re going to assert that standard on me. I'm not OP dude and haven't said anything about him..? I'm confused as to your discussion framework. If someone disagrees with you on X,Y,Z, do you always expect them to go debate others they disagree with on X,Y,Z as well? Not okay with individual discussions or something? But it seems like OP and others, and possibly yourself (maybe I’m wrong) And what OP thinks is optimal Yeah I think th…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 10:58 PM
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It might not be the right relationship style for you, but be careful not to project your own preferences, behaviours, and challenges onto others. Take this for example: But you’ll have to pretend like you don’t have a favorite girlfriend. Make sure you aren’t going to events more with one girlfriend than another otherwise it’ll be a headache at home. Never had this issue. If you are all generally non-jealous and low maintenance people, then you & your partners probably won't be getting jealous o…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 08:15 PM
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Pretty much the same benefits you get from having more than one friend. Variety, balance, more events to go to, fun group interactions, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:08 PM
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I'm going to break this to you gently son but you have voluntarily joined a debate sub If you're just going to respond to discussion points with a 0IQ "well you can believe that if you want, I don't", there is absolutely no point you being on this sub. Nobody is attacking you or trying to force you to live a certain way. They are inviting you to a discussion, and if you don't wish to contribute or listen, this sub will just clutter your feed
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/22 06:05 PM
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In contrast, in a lot of female spaces such as FDS and other female reddit subs, sure they give dating advices as well, but it's almost as if all of the advices are directed externally, like how to vet better, how to be more confident with your standards, how to reject low value men ... right, and that is a relevant form of self-improvement. Lots of women don't face the problem of insufficient male attention, or even of not getting attention from good, genuine guys. Their primary dilemma is that…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/22 02:02 PM
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Okay, well it seems you're not going to bother actually trying to defend your earlier claims, but I'll head with you, anyway. When was the last time you left your house? Earnest question, because attempting trad relationships correlates extremely well with low socioeconomic status and life outcomes. If you look at dirt poor farmers, tradesmen, truckers... these are all the exact same guys disproportionately likely to believe in strict gender roles and women as mostly servile housewives. If you'r…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 06:03 PM
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So what's to stop me claiming that, say, polyamorous relationships are superior but require more expertise? I get to love & experience life with more people, and am not bound by as many restrictive rules and unspoken expectations. If you can't make it work, that's okay - pick one of the lesser relationship styles. How are you going to address that claim without just tautologically or circularly defining your model better?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/22 08:45 AM
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Bro it's not even my point. You're thinking of a different user. They just brought up a stat, someone else said it was wrong, and I pointed out that no, the stat is correct. And now I'm explaining to you why someone brought it up That's all, settle down and read the usernames next time :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 11:09 PM
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Well, yes and no A study can obviously only ask "have you HAD sex?", not "WILL you ever have sex?". So I really just checked and saw that a pretty solid study said 95% responded that they had, which of course means that more than 95% is the true figure that will get laid before they die. Considering that it's not unusual for people to lose their virginity in early/mid 20s (potentially after being surveyed as an adult) and yet still go on to have perfectly normal, regular sex lives... the 'true' …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 02:17 PM
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I mean, re-read the comment thread. OP states that it's literally not possible for most short guys to gain attraction, which is why someone else brought up the 98%-at-least-once stat. Of course getting laid only once in your life would be fucking terrible, but that's literally all that's needed to rebut OP's also absurd claim God, Reddit would be such a better place if we had the ability to remember more than 1 parent comment at a time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:56 PM
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Oh, no worries, go ahead and link the study you're referencing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 01:23 PM
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no, because attraction is a hockey-stick curve not an ascending straight line. Nah, mine's way more like a straight line. Speak for yoself
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:41 PM
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My girlfriend and I are super happy. Pretty constantly tell each other how grateful we are for each other, how lucky we are, etc. This post sounds to me like you haven't been able to make women happy, so confirmation bias has kicked in and you've disproportionately paid attention to anecdotes & media that you can relate to, and formed a worldview that effectively removes responsibility from yourself for having to skill to build lasting relationships. Keep in mind that you're coming across exactl…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 12:35 PM
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These issues are red herrings. Choosing whether or not to signal that you're super available? Why ARE you super available? Your week should already be full of interesting commitments that naturally prevent you showing desperation. Choosing whether or not to signal that you're super keen on her? Why ARE you super keen on her? You've known her for an hour; how could you possibly know she meets all your standards unless you're setting the bar pretty low? And so on. If you focus on building an inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 11:21 AM
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Nope, it's pretty easy to google and find that the 95%+ figure of men who will get laid in their lifetime is correct. You might be confusing currently celibate with permanently celibate, but even then I haven't seen any reputable data suggesting that men overall are 30% sexless. I think the closest I've seen was some data that a decent portion of men from like 20-30 are getting laid 0 times per week, but even that is obviously a far cry from "won't get laid at all this year", let alone "sexless"…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/22 10:34 AM
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'League' isn't just physical attractiveness, though. I know plenty of slightly overweight guys who would be considered vastly more attractive, because physical looks are only part of attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 12:07 PM
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I’ll give you an analogy. OP and I have brains that run on windows 11 while the majority of people we know are still running windows vista. We are faster, more intelligent, and just relate to people less. I hooked up with a girl for the first time this year I literally had to dumb myself down to socialize on a normal level. If the feature set / coding of your operating system prevents (or hinders) you from achieving what you want to achieve… it's a fucking terrible operating system for you. Your…
/r/seduction17/10/22 09:10 AM
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A woman can look like this and be overweight (she's 5ft 4 160 LBs), but we all know women who look like this is 10/10 attractive. What? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/22 08:52 AM
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Anybody close enough with photographers to ask them to help them for free wouldn't post "wtf" at a mention of a very normal daily wage for them. For some gigs, you're looking at thousands of pounds (equivalent) for someone's expertise with pretty expensive equipment. 800 is a steal So yeah, I think he's a broke dude who got surprised photography costs a lot and tried to backpedal
/r/seduction05/10/22 11:10 AM
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No need to feel left out dude
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/22 09:01 AM
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... well, no, it seems you don't. You were liable to get kicked out whether or not that actually happens, because the word is an assessment of risk/likelihood, not a statement that it will definitively occur. If you bet all your savings on red at a roulette table, you were liable to lose your savings, even if that doesn't end up happening. That's... literally how the word works. Stating that someone isn't making sense because they're using a word you don't understand isn't a good look for you lo…
/r/seduction21/09/22 11:37 AM
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This is going to be annoyingly centrist, but I honestly think there's a place for every style of 'game' in a well rounded guy I really fuck with the whole 'inner game' stuff — confidence and relaxation are really, really king to having good conversations and coming across grounded. Abundance, social proof, all those fundamentals help too. But there's also validity to every one of the 'pills'; I definitely try and stay in good shape, have a decent career & prospects, groom before heading out, etc…
/r/seduction17/09/22 09:25 AM
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I got really fucked up by early mainstream PUA as a teenager lol, so the history of the scene stuck pretty hard
/r/seduction17/09/22 09:17 AM
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The pickup community has almost completely abandoned peacocking and its almost never mentioned. This is mostly a result of changes in market demand & cultural awareness of pickup, rather than a lack of effectiveness. Mystery Method became incredibly well-known through The Game, and certain aspects have even become common vernacular. (e.g. plenty of girls now know the word 'neg') So going overboard in costuming still poses a pretty high risk that people will associate you with actively trying to …
/r/seduction17/09/22 08:34 AM
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Sure, I'm interested in that and I've PM'd you. I would also suggest, however, that this is probably not a great way to interest people on average; you're taking a fascinating hobby and potentially turning it into a technical lecture. I'd love to hear more on the "birth of garage punk" bit; see if you can find a way to make it relatable to someone who doesn't listen to the genre! (What does it mean to you, what kind of emotions does it express, how do you feel when playing it, what kind of shows…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/22 02:08 AM
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What a fucking hilariously bad take lol. No, you don't need to be tall and attractive to have a good conversation about travel or photography. Go out and make some friends bud.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 09:22 AM
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??? If you think you need to be tall and attractive to even have friends then boy you need a therapist lol This dude is clearly doing something wrong socially to get the response he's getting
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 08:45 AM
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If nobody cares, the problem isn't talking about the hobbies, but you. You're either boring them or coming off self-centered or... man, something. Those hobbies are about the best possible cards you can have in your deck for interesting people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/22 05:11 AM
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The Right: "Boy now lemme tell you something now real quick ... If you want something in this world, well... You got no choice but to work hard for it. Keep ya head up, son." You're delusional if you think the conservative wing isn't equally vitriolic (or worse) on average Both sides are absolutely hateful in the US right now. It's incredibly polarised.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/22 05:08 AM
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That's obviously horseshit though lol. There are tons of scumbags & junkies & assholes & broke deadbeats who get laid often. The ability to 'game' simply doesn't correlate well with any kind of moral or social worth, any more than female beauty does. You could also be successful with women through being a quality person, but it's not a prerequisite at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:56 AM
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Also some dudes just like fun sex, right? I love it when girls know what they're into, know how to please me, are confident enough to be vocal, etc. And that correlates pretty strongly with a decent amount of sexual experience. Plus I love threesomes & more, and those are just way less likely with less sexually experienced girls. I wouldn't have half the ridiculously fun sexual experiences I think back on if I limited myself to prudish girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/22 05:55 AM
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Oh, absolutely agreed. Can you show me a photo of yourself where you look as good as these celebrities? I mean, it's just about good choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/09/22 01:51 AM
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If you're a 13 year old boy in a relationship with early abuse (say the girl constantly belittling you in front of friends etc), and you're scared to talk about your emotions because you're worried people will make fun of you, how are you meant to realise it's a shit relationship when you have no reference experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 12:54 PM
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Yeah but the difference is I didn't define that away, just pointed out that trying to justify that you do chores with super infrequent and easy tasks is a really weak point. If your dating is going amazing, then keep doing what you're doing dude. Don't know how you're fitting it in within your 70 hours of backbreaking labour each week, so well done!
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:43 AM
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especially if children aren't included You don't get to just define away them putting in more effort than you lmao Again, if the best you can offer is occasional tasks that are generally also fairly quick... you're just dobbing yourself in mate, sorry
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:14 AM
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And people act like it's particularly difficult to put dishes in the dishwasher or let a machine wash your clothes for you As opposed to taking out the trash or mowing a lawn? Bruh if you're struggling with those activities you need a retirement home not a girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 06:04 AM
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As a dude, I always find it so strange that other guys seem to defend housework share by... citing generally infrequent activities? If the best you can do is cite one weekly activity (trash), a monthly activity (lawn), and something you might do every 6 months (garage)... jeez, you're basically dobbing yourself in lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 05:55 AM
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What makes your lived experience more insightful to the truth than anyone else's? Do you think everyone else on this sub is giving you advice based on absolutely nothing?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/22 05:48 AM
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Are you just ignoring what I wrote? Dating apps widen the pool considerably beyond the people they're around day to day. Basically every time I've looked at a girlfriend's or friend's Tinder, I've been surprised just how high they set their age ceiling - even first year college girls are definitely seeing mid 20s guys online. Also, obviously at 21 - bars similarly widen their dating pool. Early 20s girls are absolutely interacting with mid 20s guys on the dating market. Maybe they're not talking…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/22 01:55 AM
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Yeah, that was my point lol Younger guys can get their shit together too. Yeah, great, you make 100k at 35. But the hot, gold digging girls you now think you deserve are going after dudes who make 100k at 25 because they went into consulting or IB. Getting your shit together still puts you at a loss relative to younger guys who accomplished it sooner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 04:26 PM
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Dating apps widen the pool considerably beyond the people they're around day to day. Basically every time I've looked at a girlfriend's or friend's Tinder, I've been surprised just how high they set their age ceiling - even first year college girls are definitely seeing mid 20s guys online. Also, obviously at 21 - bars similarly widen their dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 02:13 PM
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As far as I've seen, TRP bases this idea mostly on the premise that girls love a guy who has his shit together, financially stable, etc. So they extrapolate that to "well then she'll love me at 35". They kinda forget that: You have to actually get your shit together. A 35 year old guy with a moderate job isn't going to pull just because he gets paid 20% more than a uni student lol. So many of those guys are still clearly barely functional. It has to be a bonus to other traits. If you get paid 10…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/22 01:23 PM
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A few major problems with this logic: Value is not a linear continuum. The top 1% for someone might not even be top 50% for someone else. It's theoretically possible for every guy to be top 1% in a niche and even attract women who only want the top 1% in that niche. Value is not entirely relative. If you want a fit partner, you probably only care that they reach some absolute threshold; a girl with an 8 minute mile isn't going to stop being attractive to you in a room with 99 women with 6 minute…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/22 08:31 AM
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There are a billion different brands of mediocrity my dude
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:58 AM
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With an almost entirely irrelevant stat? Go find & link a stat about the number of sexual partners men have had, and then you'll be back on topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:57 AM
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... okay, so you realise that means that 49% of those men are currently partnered, yes? Which means the amount that have been partnered is probably more like 75%?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:40 AM
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You can literally just go out in public and see tons of mediocre young guys with partners lol. Shopping malls, the beach, theme parks, pubs... Yeah, the average guy has a dating life. You have to be substantially below average or highly introverted to get nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/22 05:15 AM
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It's not even about democracy vs feudalism. The thread is about natural selection and argues from survival of the fittest; you'd have to reject civilisation entirely if you seriously wanted to contend that you believe the natural way of things is acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/22 12:34 AM
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The entire rest of our civilization is built on outrunning natural order, and in many cases establishing a far more egalitarian society than one where "winners" just get to do whatever they want For instance: Building organised welfare systems Progressive taxation Laws against murder, theft, etc Social housing I mean, the list is endless. It's not surprising that society would also expect that people would develop egalitarian values on dating, either individually (in the same way I might donate …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/22 09:20 PM
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Dare you to post a thread saying "I just found out my boyfriend used to cook a lovely breakfast for all his one night stands but he says he sees me differently" and see what response you get
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/22 08:27 AM
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You've written a lot here, so I want to make sure I'm not missing something. Is the bulk of your point that not meeting people will make it harder to find a relationship? Of course that's true, almost by definition. Otherwise, you seem to wonder if there are ways out... but it also seems like you know what these might be already, and just muse that these guys might not want to take those routes. Again, if that's how you're setting up the hypothetical, there's not much to be done for them. Is the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/22 04:15 PM
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Just keep in mind that while exercise will improve your mood on average in the long term, there are still fluctuations on every time scale. Some training days can just fuck right off, for starters. I got up at 4:30 this morning to walk in the rain to gym just to miss my squat reps target and go home. Do I feel better mentally? No. Some training weeks are better than others. Some training months are just ass (especially if injured). And hell, there have been 1 or 2 training years where I've only …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/22 01:30 AM
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Nah I haven't really observed this. There are some really obvious gimmes for both sexes (obviously most people will love the conventional 9/10 attractiveness type, there's a reason it's convention!) but otherwise it can vary a bit. I mean, think of how wild some male fetishes get. We vary a LOT
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 07:52 AM
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Thank you, that's a perfect analogy. The post is accurate, just completely inane.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 04:18 AM
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it says that women are more likely to be similar on cognitive tests in a vacuum Fixed that for you. You can't extrapolate mathematical & verbal test distributions to social effects lmao, how is this not obvious? You cited one paper where adolescent boys are more likely to engage in risk based behaviour as a response to deviant peers through social susceptibility This is LITERALLY in the first sentence of the abstract and the title of the study. How the hell did you even open the link while still…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:49 AM
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There is a lot of psychological and biological evidence that shows a certain trend: Women show less variance to one another than men do. It is absolutely bizarre that out of all the psychology assessing sex differences in peer influence, you managed to link... a very specific hypothesis that DOESN'T have anything to do with it. Seriously, did you read your own link? Those are all cognitive ability studies my dude, not peer influence and empathy. If you were actually in touch with the literature …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:13 AM
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... right, but I think you've missed the point. I'm not disagreeing with OP, I'm just pointing out that this phenomenon isn't localised to women or dating. If someone posted "Men are less likely to date someone with an active ebola case", you'd probably muse that EVERYBODY is more likely to avoid ANY contact with active ebola victims lol. Same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 03:07 AM
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Marketers have known for decades that people are hiveminds, to a pretty large degree. It's almost absurdly easy to exploit, too - you can put laughing and smiling people in a commercial, everyone will know EXACTLY what you're trying to do, and yet they'll still respond better to your product. Don't delude yourself that men are different. You're hypersensitive to when women behave this way because it affects your dating prospects, but men do basically exactly the same shit. I would guess that les…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/22 12:21 AM
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This is literally a debate sub and the entire substance of your first comment was calling two ideas the same If you don't want semantics then don't bring them up?? Just read properly next time man, that's all I'm saying Peace
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:11 PM
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You're shifting the goalposts. Obviously most people will not be able to attain that status, that's absolutely not in contention lol. What I actually contended was the section of your comment about how what would work on one woman would never work on another. No, there are ABSOLUTELY factors that the vast majority of people find attractive. For us to discuss whether those are teachable or not requires us agreeing on what those factors are — e.g. if we thought that fame was the attractive thing, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:08 PM
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No your idea is dumb. You guys are single because you don't Date peolle you don't like. I'm... in a relationship, and haven't proposed an idea in this thread. I'm literally just explaining to you how two sentences are not the same sentence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 07:02 PM
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... it's dumb to conceptually understand that two ideas are not the same? They're just demonstrably not the same idea. We're not even talking about which one we agree with, I'm just gently explaining to you that you read too hastily and no, that user did not just repeat the same idea
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:53 PM
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They're... not the same ideas though, and you've misparaphrased him. "Women can only advise what THEY like individually" is not the same sentiment as "women choose to advise only what they like from guys who have already built attraction".
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:47 PM
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Something that would work on one woman would never work on another Ah that's why there are no male sex symbols, gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/22 12:45 PM
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He spent 400 hours in the gym over the course of a year. Or about 2 hours per day, 4 days a week. That's enough for some decent progress but I kinda doubt he actually had a great body by the end, if he was previously untrained. Even a very disciplined trainee would be lucky to hit a 120kg bench within a year (from scratch), which is about where an average height male will likely be considered to have "nice pecs", for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/22 11:24 AM
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While I agree with you, it wasn't dating advice...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/22 10:29 PM
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Your girlfriend would be devastated to learn that you settle for her and she's not your dream partner. Yes, I read all the disclaimers you put around the idea. Also... you wouldn't change her for anyone else, but she'd definitely prefer to date someone else? Oh boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 01:13 PM
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I don't think you're listening to me. If she was ugly or dumb I wouldn't have gone for her. And if she was hot and dumb I wouldn't have gone for her. You seem to think you're arguing against someone saying physical attraction doesn't matter. Obviously it does, and can be a deal-breaker. But that doesn't mean it's #1 and everything else is #2 at best, because I have several other factors that are just as important
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:19 AM
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Why would I take an internet stranger's word for it over my own dating history, which shows that physical attraction gets weighted roughly equally to other traits? There are some cases where sexual attraction has even come after intellectual attraction; one girl I wasn't particularly attracted to at first glance, but absolutely blew my mind (and my gf's) with social wit, so we slept with her after all. It doesn't seem like the primary factor to me at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 09:10 AM
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I wouldn't take either, so in what sense is that relevant to figuring out which of those traits is more relevant to me? I think the relevant case is the behaviour I've actually exhibited, which has been to date & sleep with girls who exhibit at least moderate amounts of both, and generally been most romantically attached to competence in particular.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:55 AM
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There are a few well known studies showing that IQ correlates with career performance up to 120 or something, then complete flat line. It's all EQ and professional skill after that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:47 AM
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I guess our life & dating experiences are just different! I will say that if you want to take philosophical & cultured girls, you should be dating in social circles and clubs that revolve around those topics, not trying to find them in industry. Start a book club, go to museums, participate in intelligence based competitions etc. All the girls I've dated who I've met through those pursuits have also ended up well above average income by virtue of education and intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:44 AM
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Depends what I'm looking for. For my relationships, competence & emotional IQ beat pure looks by far. Then again I'm non monogamous and have pretty high SMV so I haven't actually had to choose for a long time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:14 AM
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Eh, I notice a really strong correlation, but maybe we're defining intelligence differently. I'm all in favour of excluding things like social intelligence etc, but I also don't think it's as narrow as pure IQ or STEM capability
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 08:11 AM
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I'm definitely attracted to competence & ambition, as a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/22 07:44 AM
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I mean, the sheer prominence of infidelity in both sexes shows a pretty decent portion of people who are unethical or confused about what they want. It's kind of not arguable
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 06:49 PM
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I also meant your post history my dude, take care of yourself!
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 02:01 AM
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Oof, anger issues there bud. Love ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 06:51 PM
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I can obviously agree it's less rigorous than STEM — I got 4 years into a dual physics/engineering undergrad before deciding it wasn't what I wanted to do professionally, and yes, that was harder. But you're kidding yourself if you think you can 7.0 a good quality MBA without intelligence. Also, you're aware the most common entry test (the GMAT) tests specifically for mathematical reasoning, right? You're not getting into a good school unless you're reliably able to solve these type of questions…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 10:32 AM
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I'm reading this in the office of a software firm I got hired at thanks to my perfect MBA GPA so far. Work starts at 830, which means I get up at 450 so I can gym first and hopefully hit a 250kg deadlift by end of year, current max being 220. Where do I fit into your worldview?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 04:16 AM
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Paying for dating apps is a force multiplier, not addition. It's a waste of money for guys getting 1 match per week, for example, because even a 5x multiplier is still only 5 matches... likely not going to lead to a date unless your game is amazing. Whereas for a guy getting 30 matches a week, 5x multiplier is 120 more matches. It sounds like, no offense, Gold probably upped your matches a decent amount... but if your match-to-date conversion ratio was always bad (like <1%) that could still mean…
/r/seduction31/01/22 12:47 PM
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Nah, the whole package. If your dating life isn't full of nice women, then either you're not able to attract nice women at all (in the looks range you desire), or you're somehow avoiding them (eg you've got a style of game well suited to nightclub pulls but not attracting wife material).
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:02 PM
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You've confused me for another user, friend. I'm not complaining about women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 04:00 PM
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I'm sorry you've faced discrimination for disclosing it, that sucks. Virtually all my responses have been positive, and my career & romantic & social lives are steadily improving each year. Respectfully, I'm not going to believe it's a problem for me just because you have had different experiences. My openness is one of my greatest strengths, tbh, and my life is going great.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:27 PM
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Several, yeah. One of my current fwbs is struggling as well so the shared vulnerability is actually a key point of connection But even for girls who are perfectly mentally well, it hasn't hurt me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 03:18 PM
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I have - FDS is just the female incel sub though, and the distinct minority of women. (Have you seen their self-posts?!) I've struggled with depression basically my entire life and I'm super open about it, because I figure that even if 1 in 10 people I talk to are going through the same thing, my openness might help them feel more normal. So I've chatted to... at least dozens of women about it in casual conversation and been vulnerable. I literally can't remember ever getting a bad response or l…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 12:45 PM
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If there's an obvious logical flaw in your post, calling others obtuse won't patch it up lol All the best dude, hope you attract better women in future
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 09:01 AM
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This argument doesn't really make sense. You're saying that all women, even the ones who don't show it, internally feel repulsion. If they aren't showing it, you don't know how they feel lmao. Also, as a guy, I've been vulnerable with all the women I'm currently dating (one serious, two fwbs) and none of them have given any indication of repulsion or discomfort. Maybe you're just attracting cruel women? Some men can experience this from women without all men experiencing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 08:01 AM
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If all the women you're attracting have reacted this way, then you're either not attractive enough to find genuinely nice women, or your game is somehow vetting for cruel women.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 07:58 AM
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Not true for services like Tinder. Matching with a great fwb makes it more likely I'll keep using it and/or use it again in future, not less.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:30 PM
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You can get arrested for doing cold approach in the UK, so no. You're not going to get arrested unless you're actively creepy or harassing. Does anyone else remember that autistic guy (I think UK based as well) who posted that his cold approach wasn't working? And it turned out he'd been forced to move town because he cold approached a 15 year old and got beaten up? lmao Cold approach is fine & perfectly legal, but it's not for guys with zero calibration who want to plow through obvious disinter…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 11:29 PM
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How do you apply this to non-monogamous people? My girlfriend and I are incredibly happy & in love, and have been together for 6 years being open from the start. We also quite regularly have threesomes and more, as well as see girls separately. (We both currently have 1 main fwb each, both women) How does this fit into your worldview? Should we have stopped dating others for 6 months then started banging others again, or...?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 03:54 AM
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Yaya all good Unfortunately on a debate sub the tendency is to assume that reply comments are disagreeing, but I wasn't!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 05:05 PM
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A man only needs to be like top 80% to get a date, frankly. Go to any shopping mall and you'll see hundreds of mediocre men with partners. You only need to be a top tier guy to attract the top tier girls, really. Where lots of guys here go wrong is EITHER: They're in the bottom 20% and literally involuntarily celibate Their expectations for dating are higher than they can achieve They're actually decently attractive but never go meet women, and rely on methods like Tinder that do only select for…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 04:28 PM
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Double digits is anywhere from a fairly low 10, to a dedicated pickup hobbyist at 99.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 12:09 PM
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