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TolarianFapper/r/seduction29/03/13 08:32 PM
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Just stay positive and outcome independent. I frequently do a date per weekend day and occasionally three a weekend along with sarging on Friday and Saturday nights. You'll develop an abundance mindset and be able to hone in on what types of girls you like most. Don't get hung up on any one because there are others to explore! Congrats and have fun!
/r/seduction03/05/13 08:57 PM
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Go.
/r/seduction03/05/13 08:53 PM
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Then keep in touch for those reasons. Professional reasons. Example: "Hey, how's it going at job/place?" The thing is, you're totally coming from a value-leaching position, so it'll be tough to get anything from her at all unless she totally likes you. She may hook you up with a job by referral. My advice is to never hit on her. Only contact her professionally. There are two conditions that must be met before you could even think about hitting on her without burning the bridge: 1. She divorces, …
/r/seduction03/05/13 08:04 PM
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You should def be more assertive. The kiss on cheek was good though. She knows you like her now. The sooner you are physical, the faster you two can connect sexually (and the sooner she'll know what's up!). If you are physically timid, you run the risk of getting friend-zoned FAST. Gauge her responses to your touch. If your light touches don't ellicit negative response, you can continue with more aggressive kino. Since you've kissed her cheek, I suggest running down the rungs of the kino ladder …
/r/seduction03/05/13 06:11 PM
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Tell us about the kino that occurred during the walk. Or was the kiss on cheek the only kino that you performed? Read up on DiCarlo Ladder if you need help escalating physically.
/r/seduction03/05/13 08:28 AM
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Please please please just use the provided opener and follow it up with something solid. And with your faulty reasoning (how the fuck can an opener prevent you from seeming like a nice guy if your follow-up moves are nice guy moves? Even if the set hooks, girls aren't retarded - they'll see right through that shit), I deduce that you'll need more help. Here's something - rules of engagement: 1. Smile, 2. Hold dominant eye contact, 3. Be louder than venue, 4. Don't lean in when talking to the gir…
/r/seduction03/05/13 08:21 AM
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You're looking for rejection. Why would she dignify such a classless, creepy line like that with a response? Following her is creepy. Do not be creepy. Read Models by Mark Manson. And here's a highly effective opener for ya: "Hi, you're cute. I'm Lunarukami :)". Transition into a cold read about her. Bam, now you're in set.
/r/seduction03/05/13 08:08 AM
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If the first date went well, the second will be just as good - if not, BETTER. Keep the same mindset and frame of a funny charming guy. It's quite simple. The gameplan is to offer fun to her and if logistics work out, close her :)
/r/seduction03/05/13 07:58 AM
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Very gooood :)
/r/seduction03/05/13 07:37 AM
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She is already READY. He has had her fingers inside of her and her hand around his penis. It's on. All she needs is some encouragement to give up that LMR. One more meeting should do it :) The quickest way to a woman's heart is through her vagina (after a couple dates of course, esp if he wants a LTR).
/r/seduction02/05/13 06:01 PM
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Gracias, I used to read those erotic novels that girls like so much (my sister had some lying around) and I learned a few things...
/r/seduction02/05/13 07:01 AM
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Your problem is that you don't approach. Go approach, spit your game and let the chips fall where they may. Smile, have dominant eye contact, be loud and don't lean in. Find at least one thing funny about each interaction to keep you from being depressed about rejection. This will help you become outcome independent. I also recommend you read Models by Mark Manson.
/r/seduction01/05/13 09:03 PM
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Nope. You're framing it as rape and I'm framing it as turning her on with dominant foreplay (which is what it is). I've done these things and the girls always tell me that they loved it. No girl has ever told me that I raped her. Girls like dominance and emotion - it's hardwired through evolution for them to like it. These steps should be taken until she actually says no. Until she says no, it's on. Also, while this foreplay stuff is happening, you can gauge her response and move ahead if her bo…
/r/seduction01/05/13 07:27 PM
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You're in college. Just go out, have fun and hit on girls. There's no real "game" needed except for: be clean, be loud, smile and drink. Stop jacking off for a week and see your motivation come back with a vengeance.
/r/seduction01/05/13 09:04 AM
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Don't talk about sex - do it. You're the man so YOU escalate it. Don't listen to the words as much as the actions - she had your fingers inside of her, no? You're not a pussy right? When she says, "I'm gonna make you work for it," respond with, "Oh really?" and a smirk. Push her against the door and make out with her. Tell you you want to fuck her and fuck her well. Show her that dominance. Next time you finger her, rip her clothes off and tell her that it would feel so much better to have your …
/r/seduction01/05/13 08:55 AM
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Let me give you one pretty specific example of ugly dating a hottie. There are other examples but here's one that really gets me pumped up and rooting for guys who are ugly or THINK they're ugly. Heidi Klum - hot right? 10/10 would bang all night. Seal - GODDAMN.. scars on his face right? Heidi and Seal are fucking each other every day, I'm pretty sure. Now, before you tell me that he's rich and blahblahblah about status, understand that Heidi Klum is rich herself and can have ANY rich guy she w…
/r/seduction01/05/13 07:31 AM
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Dude... You're not ugly by a long shot - I just saw your AmIUgly post with photos and all. I give you a 7-8. You've slimmed and you look presentable. If you're dwelling on the appearance thing, I'm sorry but it's time to grow up. Look around you at the world - ugly people are fucking as I'm typing this. They're fucking other uglies and some hotties. Tyler used to be FAT and that's ugly. Now he's thin and carries himself well. You're not gonna get uninvited "looks" in-field if that's what you wan…
/r/seduction01/05/13 04:11 AM
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You've read and consumed all these things, but have you truly internalized them? I think not. You've read Models but you sound extremely needy right now. You NEED results and you're considering giving up. You're 26 and have only been at this for nine months - you could very well be at the cusp of success (be careful about what you define as success). Also, you're framing all of this as a chore. Giving up? Wow, that's the most pussy shit I've ever heard. Seduction is process oriented, as Tyler me…
/r/seduction30/04/13 09:45 PM
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Slow it down a lot and be loud. People will still listen to you. In fact, put many pauses between words and emphasize certain words. You'll be an excellent speaker in no time. Another thing you could do is sing in the shower. It keeps your mind in sync with your voice. I used to stutter a bit in high school until I started singing in the shower. Now I sing everywhere and my stuttering is gone. Keep seducing!
/r/seduction26/04/13 07:13 AM
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Take this solid advice.
/r/seduction25/04/13 02:27 AM
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Pay for it if it's a cheap time. Ya don't wanna seem like a cheap bastard.
/r/seduction25/04/13 02:24 AM
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They call it merging two sets. Backward merging is the exact term for what you did. You opened a new set and merged it with an old set. The couple saw that you were preselected and the girls saw that you were dominant and friendly. You were essentially the social hub of the night. Win-win.
/r/seduction24/04/13 04:58 AM
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Woulda totally done this but I actually moved away from the Philly area last year.. I'll hit you up when I'm in town if you're down. I've seen your comment posts floating around and they're solid.
/r/seduction24/04/13 04:50 AM
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He's jelly that you get numbers and have no clue what to do with them.. hahahahaha
/r/seduction24/04/13 04:41 AM
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Cyber-game may be easier, but I prefer to get my IRL average-size dick wet rather than just getting my HUMONGOUS E-penis wet. That's just me though.
/r/seduction24/04/13 04:38 AM
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Look at how many people are having sex in the world. Let's talk appearance. Ugly girls and ugly guys. Hot girls and ugly guys. Hot girls and hot guys. Ugly girls and hot guys. Open your eyes. It's not hard to seduce. People are fucking each other left and right and a small portion of those people care about appearance. Girls care less about guys looks than guys care about girls looks. Realize this and move onto the issues that truly matter - offering value and being confident. Short list of ugly…
/r/seduction23/04/13 07:56 PM
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You've lost the battle before you've even begun it. Listen: Stop looking into the world from the outside and start living in it. YOU can be a hot dude. Women don't base their attraction towards men on appearance. There will always be someone who will like you. Your job is to find those people. There is no room for limiting beliefs in your life. Expunge them from your mind. Realize that to get what you want requires you to be happy in the first place. You don't NEED external validation to make yo…
/r/seduction23/04/13 07:32 PM
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Then make sure you do whatever it takes to not feel shitty. I shouldn't have to tell you that. Seduction and other aspects of life are connected. One neglected aspect eventually erodes another aspect. Don't give up on what you want. For you, that means you should be constantly creating music, hitting the gym and talking to girls. Constantly. Everyday. Do it.
/r/seduction23/04/13 07:06 PM
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There will always be girls who dismiss you due to height and ethnicity. You can't win them all. That being said, you also have high standards, so you'll have to play better. Girls with higher self-esteems have a lot more going on in their lives than their low self-esteem counterparts. Thus, you're gonna have to work on the other parts of your life other than seduction. Higher value girls tend to look at a guy holistically rather than just by their social skills. Are you truly exciting or do you …
/r/seduction23/04/13 06:50 PM
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If you have decent stats (which you'll have if you're into self-development, stats being that you're getting somewhere with each of the three, health, wealth and love), girls won't care about them as much as if you think that your stats are worth caring about. This is called swag. They want a man who has things going on AND is absorbed in and in love with his own world. Can you see how attractive that is to an outsider? Your incessant whining and lack of love for yourself turns people off. Like …
/r/seduction23/04/13 06:36 PM
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It seems like you suffer from being unable to draw state from within. This is common for non-naturals. Reframe everything positively. Any result is a result. At the same time, any action you take toward getting shit done should make you feel like a boss, regardless of the result. You've done a lot of work on yourself, from what I can tell, so why wouldn't you feel like the absolutely boss? Everytime you feel shitty, reaffirm your boss attitude and continue your day. Rejection is part of life - d…
/r/seduction23/04/13 06:30 PM
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And if you see an open door, go introduce yourself with a big smile, good handshake and remember their names. Comment on something in their room (posters, bedsheets, choice of ramen flavor, etc). Eject if you're blanking out. Say hi to everyone you pass by with a nod and smile. Being friendly and receptive will get you invited to a lot of events.
/r/seduction22/04/13 07:17 PM
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Encourage hugs from her as compliance tests disguised by awarding her for saying/doing cool things. A first kiss should occur before the end of the first date. Kino is one thing but compliance testing is another. Escalation should be done after a compliance test pass. As a female has pointed out, if you feel no resistance toward your shallow kino, move the physicality forward whenever you can.
/r/seduction22/04/13 07:28 AM
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Ask ya boy about it.
/r/seduction21/04/13 01:27 PM
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Shower, talk with the wings about previous nights and drink while music is playing. Talking with my wings gets me in state.
/r/seduction21/04/13 08:25 AM
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No harm, no foul. Ya closed it and it's all good. There ain't nothing wrong with a little AMOGing fun between players.
/r/seduction21/04/13 08:10 AM
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Does it really matter? They're literally only one rung away from each other. The kiss is inevitable at that point.
/r/seduction21/04/13 07:55 AM
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When you next see her, access whatever rungs you want from the previous interaction and just make her comfy before you go on. Use some sense and gauge her response. Some girls may take it well that you continue from where you left off and some may be uncomfortable - experiment with it and you'll eventually know for each new girl and situation. Keep rocking.
/r/seduction21/04/13 07:52 AM
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Damn man, this post is depressing. You're saying you're gonna go fuck something that's unappealing to you (go fuck a rock while ya at it)? - why don't you just commit suicide instead? Come on dude, get with the program. Go for what you want. Don't settle for less... This is what Seddit is all about.
/r/seduction21/04/13 07:46 AM
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Seduction is built upon the idea that one must offer up something of value. Making friends and maintaining friendships is the same way. No one wants to go to a gathering and get value-leached. You're planning gatherings but the people you invite do not see the value in you or your gatherings - that's why people aren't attending. They may even think that they're higher in value than you are. While sarging, meet multiple groups of people in one night and merge the sets. Be the hub and the life of …
/r/seduction20/04/13 09:23 PM
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Keep going because you KNOW you're gonna get it right eventually. It's a learning process. Rock on.
/r/seduction19/04/13 11:26 PM
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Read "Sex God Method" for some tips on fucking real good. Let me know how it goes :)
/r/seduction19/04/13 09:20 PM
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Talk to them about the self-development aspects of it. Ask them if they're truly satisfied with their lives the way they're living it. Some people will be open-minded but some will always stay unaccepting of harsh truths.
/r/seduction19/04/13 07:47 PM
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Talking to other girls is really the only way to cure it. You'll soon realize that she's not that awesome- you're just projecting qualities onto her.
/r/seduction19/04/13 06:57 PM
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Love the last bit there
/r/seduction18/04/13 08:40 PM
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Sounds good! You read the signs well, friend. Also, I believe they call it "Anime Eyes" lol
/r/seduction16/04/13 03:35 AM
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How did you turn it sexual? How did you kino escalate? Is she a screamer? Great opening game though :)
/r/seduction16/04/13 03:20 AM
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Look up Day Bang by Roosh V. Tone it down for the day game...
/r/seduction15/04/13 11:41 PM
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Not sure why this was downvoted...
/r/seduction14/04/13 08:59 PM
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Friend-zone... Sorry duude
/r/seduction14/04/13 08:25 PM
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Realize that what you've got going for you makes you awesome. Your fear is irrational. It shouldn't be scary to talk to hot girls - it should be fun, just like fucking them is fun. You're already interacting with the large crowd - talking to some girls is nothing :)
/r/seduction14/04/13 08:20 PM
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Always be closing. Why? 1. To gain the reference experience. 2. To exercise the knowledge that you learned. 3. To get what you want. Even if you weren't in state, you shoulda tried - motion creates emotion. She was an 8! You coulda been more persistent.
/r/seduction14/04/13 08:13 PM
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Start sooner - those three hours plummeted your state, as you probably noticed. Have a couple of things planned out to say (DHV stories, banter lines) and don't be afraid :)
/r/seduction14/04/13 08:05 PM
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Text her once in awhile and if she's wondering what you're up to (some girls love knowing what a hot guy is up to), drop some details. She doesn't want to initiate too much or else it makes her look desperate, so initiate a little less than she does. She wants to know that you're higher value than her, but not too much higher. Make plans with her and fuck her.
/r/seduction14/04/13 05:12 AM
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What do you mean? Be specific. Also, if she's into you, why would you need to change anything? Are you unsure about what to do next? Tell us MORE.
/r/seduction14/04/13 04:45 AM
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Misconstrue stuff she says. Make fun of her and say just kidding. Mix it up by qualifying her. Don't high five more than once or twice you see her. Open up multiple threads of conversation. Role play with her saying that she's a "naughty girl" and that you can't handle her. Then say that she can't handle your badassness in the next sentence. Don't be so serious. Then pretend to be serious. It's about accentuating as many parts of your personality as possible so you don't seem boring. Kino wise, …
/r/seduction14/04/13 04:24 AM
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Use the freezeout. It's super effective. Alternatively, finger her and freeze her out. This works too :) The freezeout is you agreeing with her to not have sex. It's not insensitive. It shows that you're okay with not having sex right away. This is a good thing for you. It displays non-neediness and that you're in control. It just so happens that she'll want to do it when you freeze her out.
/r/seduction14/04/13 04:17 AM
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/r/pornfree and /r/nofap have both helped me immensely. I had erectile dysfunction that I fixed by avoiding porn and masturbation. Consult your physician if you still can't get it up after trying. Keep hitting on girls. The more girls you date, the more you'll know what type of girl is best for you in a relationship. Good luck.
/r/seduction14/04/13 04:13 AM
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Topics: food, music, films, art, concerts, alcohol, your friends, her friends, your siblings, her siblings, your dreams and aspirations, her dreams and aspirations, nightmares, snowboarding, skydiving, hiking, travelling, foreign countries, foreign accents, life experiences, moving to a new town, smells, sensations, other people, sports, outdoor activities, etc. Get her comfortable with who you are and what you're about. Learn about her and qualify her. Keep that laser eye contact. Make her laug…
/r/seduction14/04/13 04:03 AM
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Look into her eyes. Talk softly while hugging her. Sexy cute seduction. Make future plans. Ya know
/r/seduction11/04/13 03:26 AM
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You totally blew her off... Bad move... If she's opening you via text, she wants to talk. One IOI is all you need. Go with it. Be like water and adapt. Read the situation - don't just go by the "rules". Game is filled with paradoxes. I would've texted back within 15 minutes from the initial text. If a girl opens you all playful, capitalize on the emotions she's feeling at that moment. If you wait too long, her emotions WILL change and you'll risk catching her at a shitty time. Realize that her i…
/r/seduction10/04/13 08:17 PM
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Good luck with that.. you're coming from the frame of seduction isn't fun. Good luck.... Hahahaha
/r/seduction10/04/13 08:07 PM
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Great job! You're the mannn, mannnnn!
/r/seduction10/04/13 05:45 PM
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Once again, there's no difference. You've just explained teasing - great job.. Negging is actually defined as a "backhanded compliment" by Mystery and is said in a cocky way with a smile. Tell me that's not a subset of teasing technique. Haha...
/r/seduction10/04/13 05:33 PM
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Keep asking other girls out, keep partying and the rest will follow. The sooner you adopt an abundance mindset, the sooner women detect the sexiness. Also, if your career is on hold due to waiting, take up hobbies man. Become the awesome dude you've always wanted to be. Go on adventures. Get some experience under your belt. Go to some EDM shows and pick up some HBs there! You're pre-med - I'm sure you're capable of sorting out your emotions and taking the best courses of action. Have fun!
/r/seduction10/04/13 05:29 PM
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Super sexy.
/r/seduction10/04/13 10:00 AM
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I agree with this 100%. If you've done it once, you can def do it again. To OP: She wasn't the only one that wanted your dick. Go find the others.
/r/seduction10/04/13 10:00 AM
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See other girls man... She's busy for a week, boo-fucking-hoo. We live in a hang out, hook up culture, children. Take the red pill. Dating in the 21st century means you have fun with each other, fuck each other and sometimes see each other. Dating means you see multiple people. People are busy - it doesn't mean she doesn't like you. Be secure dude. You are dating - you aren't in a relationship. There are no obligations or commitments until both parties agree on it. No labels, no pressure - all f…
/r/seduction10/04/13 09:39 AM
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I agree with you. You're not missing anything - negging was a term created by nerds who didn't know that they were teasing hahahaha.. however, those nerds got laid!
/r/seduction10/04/13 09:26 AM
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At my job, I cannot be unprofessional. My sexual self is stifled there because I'm not allowed to play. However, when I'm out, I make sure I act UNSTIFLED, because I get to play. This means that when I'm with friends or females, I can fully express myself with jokes, cussing and being loud. You have stifled yourself during playtime. Be a fun dude and stop being that polite dude that your job/school expects you to be. Playtime is playtime. So play.
/r/seduction10/04/13 09:08 AM
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Yea, I agree - fuck romance. Be sensual, physical and fun. That means talk about sensations (food, music), physically interact with her (high-five, hugs, kisses, sex) and crack jokes (tease her, play games, laugh with her). Throw in some comfort and you'll be set. Protip: stop being so serious, just relax son! She doesn't want some corny dude (romance creates weak emotions) - she wants to have fun, to be thrilled and to see what it's like in your world (these things generate strong emotions).
/r/seduction10/04/13 08:57 AM
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The girl isn't gonna show you crystal clear signs of nymphomania. She can only show you she likes you. It's your job to bring that nymphomaniac side out of her. You gotta make MOVES to show her that it's time to FUCK. Don't look for signs man... The signs were all there! I hope you understand that she was ready to FUCK at any indication from you that you wanted to. Your mistake was showing no interest. She wanted to spend more and more time with you. Stop looking for IOIs and start pulling girls…
/r/seduction10/04/13 08:47 AM
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Great job. Keep going. I suggest kinoing early and often. Plan shit with them during the interaction and get the number to do the things you planned. A strategy I use: find out what foods and activities they enjoy ASAP and get the number with a future possible plan/date seeded in their mind.
/r/seduction10/04/13 08:25 AM
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Oneitis always happens but seeing at least a few other women will get you better quality oneitis's.
/r/seduction10/04/13 07:12 AM
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True. Both the ladder and sexualizing a conversation are great tools. However, sexualizing may not be necessary with some girls and some venues. After all, it's body language and tonality that dominate the bulk of communication. The ladder is way more important in my opinion. Physicality trumps sexualized conversation. Again, my opinion. OP should def learn to do both though.
/r/seduction10/04/13 03:54 AM
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You've intrigued them, are bantering with them and are leading them into comfort. What you're missing is the dominance. They are intrigued at how you'll go from conversation to making your move. What I advocate is qualifying them based on their personality (not looks) while in comfort and pairing it with physical compliance tests, then making your move soon after (ie, "You're adventurous, I like it, come here," grab her and give hug. "So what else to you do other than travel to foreign countries…
/r/seduction09/04/13 06:21 PM
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She needs to know that you're taking the responsibility off her shoulders. If she's responsible, she's a slut. However, if you're responsible, then the sex just happened. She'll tell her friends, "he was so charming and hot and one thing led to the next," as opposed to, "oh fuck, I agreed to follow a stranger home to fuck him. I'm a slut." Understand?
/r/seduction09/04/13 05:59 PM
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Seduction is filled with paradoxes. Life is filled with paradoxes. Do not think for one second that there's a clear cut answer to anything. Also, not all pick-up is designed to lower a woman's self-esteem - most of it is designed to raise one's own self-esteem.
/r/seduction09/04/13 05:55 PM
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No, because you cannot control what others are thinking or feeling. You can only control things on your end. Do right by you and your morals. All else is UNCONTROLLABLE. You are not responsible. Example: you open a girl by asking her if she likes dalmatians better, or pugs better. Little did you know, she HATES dogs because she was recently bit by one. She blows you put and you ruined her day. Are you responsible? FUCK NO, you didn't know. However, if you did know, then you're one fucked up indi…
/r/seduction09/04/13 08:23 AM
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Physiology? Or psychology? Do you know what physiology is?
/r/seduction09/04/13 08:18 AM
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You've just described seduction.
/r/seduction08/04/13 11:45 PM
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If she's got friends with her, she will usually resist the pull. Even if she's attracted, she doesn't want her friends to see that she's a slut. You've gotta give her an excuse to go back to your place other than for sex - this was mentioned by another sedditor. Also, if you've got wings helping, you can isolate the girl more easily and convince her. Julien from RSD advocates using the "after-party" reason to pull, since it's a vague but attractive reason to leave the venue. Also, baby step her …
/r/seduction08/04/13 10:30 PM
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Fuck yea!
/r/seduction03/04/13 11:06 PM
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Pimp mode!
/r/seduction01/04/13 08:41 PM
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Read: Go out. Be social to exercise those mental muscles. Build up the parts of your life that are lacking. It's never too late. The truth: There won't be a point in time when it all "works out" - progress is incremental and if you want it, you have to start working for it. The beginning stages will suck ass, but stick to it and see success.
/r/seduction01/04/13 10:35 AM
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That's untrue. Try it and see your second date flake rate drop.
/r/seduction01/04/13 04:10 AM
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Yea, girls that roll are definitely easier to escalate on. The rest of game is just being a normal guy. I can tell from your comment that you've been studying RSD/Julien a bit. Rock on buddy!
/r/seduction01/04/13 04:09 AM
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<3 Julien haha
/r/seduction31/03/13 08:46 PM
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For every date, I seed subsequent dates during the interaction. That way, there's no question about what we're doing next and when the next time to hang out is. The connection is more solid than planning it after the date. Anyway, just be direct - "I enjoyed time with you. Let's do it again." Call whenever and make plans. There are no hard and fast rules. Just go with it. If it was amazing, you can see each other sooner - why not?
/r/seduction31/03/13 09:48 AM
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Why did you leave? Weren't you gonna be there anyway? Unless bar closes at 2
/r/seduction31/03/13 01:38 AM
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You'll be fine. You're young and have taken the red pill. Relish life!
/r/seduction30/03/13 08:06 PM
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Thanks! It's all about the vibe. Happy sarging :)
/r/seduction30/03/13 08:05 PM
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Ya did well. Don't worry about that girl - there are many where she came from.
/r/seduction30/03/13 04:53 AM
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It's efficient at sorting girls but the receptiveness of the girls are very low. If you buy into the idea that attraction is mostly due to body language and tonality (which you should), online dating suddenly looks pretty bad. I do online dating as I have a really honed profile and sometimes, a cutie messages me. My game is to get her to text a photo of herself to me asap (compliance), banter some more via text, then Skype her to plan a meeting. That's just my system. It's not for everyone.
/r/seduction30/03/13 03:30 AM
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Hot girls don't need internet dating and will most likely not respond. The 6s and 7s may respond. The 4s and 5s will always respond. I suggest honing your OKC but not have it be your sole source of women. Don't expect to find bombshells online unless you yourself are a top specimen of physical beauty and your photos show high levels of preselection. IRL game is much more important than online game for average looking guys. Also, if you're not Caucasian, online dating isn't for you. There are sta…
/r/seduction29/03/13 10:24 PM
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Exactly! Super AMOGgy and it's awesome!
/r/seduction29/03/13 10:14 PM
2

Sounds like you've got a lot of passive value. My move would be to grab them in for a hug after a couple of lines of banter. Then run down the rungs of the DiCarlo ladder. You don't need to start at the bottom of the ladder - you can access a higher rung and then access the lower ones without resistance. Done deal. Be bold. You don't need a reason to touch them other than you think that they're cute. If you want, you can actually say, "Aw, come here. You're so adorable" while bringing them in. C…
/r/seduction29/03/13 09:27 PM
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Thanks man! This FR was a culmination of many weekends of sarging and calibrating haha.. keep at it dawgs!
/r/seduction29/03/13 09:20 PM
2

True... Editing for you guys right now!
/r/seduction29/03/13 09:15 PM
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Be super friendly and make friends with them. If they are still AMOGing you and depending on how far you've gotten with the girl, you can move her around and position yourself to block him. Alternatively, while "befriending" him, you can tool him by asking him a shitload of interview questions and responding with passive aggressive statements. IE, "what so you do?, he responds, you retort, "oh I'm sorry to hear that,", rinse repeat. This shows the girl how much more dominant you are and how much…
/r/seduction29/03/13 08:27 PM
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You guys should be winging each other. He should DHV you while you DHV him to your respective targets. Stop thinking of your friend as competition and start making him an ally. I'm sure two partners could get two hot girls easier than if the individuals game on their own. Think about it.
/r/seduction29/03/13 09:51 AM
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This happened to me this past Friday at a small EDM show at a nightclub. I was buzzed and I found out that she was rolling. I opened her directly by touching her shoulder as she passed by and she stopped to see who had touched her. I used a bit of tech. I combined physical push-pull I read from a TofuTofu Seddit post and verbal push-pull I heard about from an RSD Julien video. Immediately, I stepped toward her, grabbed her in and hugged her, smiling saying, "Girl, you're just my type. So adorabl…
/r/seduction29/03/13 08:35 AM
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Don't be affected by what she says to you. If it's stupid, she'll realize it. Just look at her like she's crazy. You flipping out is hurting you. If she flips out, just tell her to simmer haha...
/r/seduction29/03/13 08:07 AM
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Sexual attraction*
/r/seduction29/03/13 04:08 AM
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Sexual tension game. Stand or sit two feet away from each other and whoever laughs first has more sexual tension in them (aka, hornier). Go in a bit closer for each round until you're pretty much kissing. Always stay serious and she will always laugh, playing right into your frame. Then make out with her telling her that she's a naughty girl.
/r/seduction29/03/13 04:07 AM
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Don't take your time seducing them. The longer you wait to make a move, the deeper into the friend-zone you get. Once you're in the friend-zone, it's tough to get out (friends = no sex). Be aggressive and show them who's boss. Interact with them man-to-woman, display your confidence and make it clear you like them. Be physical and sexual. Invite them out and be fun.
/r/seduction29/03/13 04:03 AM
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Sexy post!
/r/seduction29/03/13 02:51 AM
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If she was truly attracted in the first place, she wouldn't be ordering him to the TV. Heck, OP never even made his intentions clear as he was playing to get laid while under the guise of job searching (sending her mixed frame signals at once haha..). Although OP did well in having her comply to some stuff, he ultimately didn't set the man-to-woman frame well enough for her to consider him a sexual prospect. The closing game happens from the beginning. If you study the frames that OP attempted t…
/r/seduction27/03/13 08:25 PM
1

Gold.
/r/seduction27/03/13 07:24 AM
426

Boss.
/r/seduction27/03/13 07:17 AM
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There is little to slim chance on the job. Your strange request to enter her home was what fucked you out of a job. The yoga pants thing was also strange, to be honest. She probably thought you were crazy. Think from her point of view. Always think from the woman's point of view when you're seducing and especially If she's a gatekeeper to a job. Good jobs are hard to get these days... If you kept the banter and professionalism, you woulda gotten the job. You treated her like a hot girl when you …
/r/seduction27/03/13 07:06 AM
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I think that you're overestimating your game. If she's as hot as you say she is and as old, she has way more experience in lady game than you do with your couple years in red-pill game. Do you honestly think that you, being a decade younger than her, as well as a value-taker, could have gotten her in bed screaming your name? Statistics make me think not. Let's be realistic here - she probably saw you as a cute little brother. Those moments of sexual tension were probably awkward to her. Here you…
/r/seduction27/03/13 06:41 AM
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Follow these rules: 1. Smile with teeth. 2. Have dominant eye-contact. 3. Have good posture and don't lean in. 4. Be louder than everything else. If you're breaking these rules, you'll definitely get blown out as you're displaying AFC body language. Shit tests occur while you're actually conversing (and indicate that she wants to know if you're for real or not). These are rejections - she took one glance at your poor body language, chalked it up to a lack of confidence or just thought you were c…
/r/seduction27/03/13 06:27 AM
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It's either job or lay, dude... Pick one and DHV that side all the way. If you wanna lay her, you don't lose your cool. If you want the job, you don't order her around in her own apt. It's either or. I think you screwed yourself on both fronts. If she offers you the job, great. However, you acted from a place of graceless neediness (you want both sex and a job from her). Essentially, you were a value-taker. Do you honestly think you could have gotten the lay? The job was realistic before you wen…
/r/seduction27/03/13 06:17 AM
2

RSD - specifically Julien's videos. Tyler and Brad have decent stuff too.
/r/seduction27/03/13 06:02 AM
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99.999999999999999999% blow-out rate. Good job.
/r/seduction27/03/13 12:20 AM
1

Wow, what weird system is this?
/r/seduction26/03/13 10:59 AM
3

Poor kid..
/r/seduction26/03/13 10:57 AM
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Move out of your parents house. It's worth it.
/r/seduction26/03/13 10:22 AM
2

I moved to a new city ten months ago and knew only one other person from back home that moved here. I wanted to build a circle of male friends whom I could depend on or at the very least have similar interests and goals as I do. To attract that sort of person, you have to offer some sort of value to them. Obviously, you'll have to at least put yourself out there. In regards to my male friends who are my pick up wings, I had to offer them perspectives and experiences they had never thought of or …
/r/seduction26/03/13 06:28 AM
1

Work on your DHV stories and banter. HBs can smell canned lines from miles away. Game isn't about canned lines or routines - it's about adapting. Your confidence level shouldn't have anything to do with the number of routines in your stack. To gain confidence, go out more often and get more reference experiences. I'm sure you'll get some HB10 poon occasionally and get blown out a bunch. Adjust accordingly.
/r/seduction25/03/13 08:34 PM
1

What do you want? Ask her what she wants. You're hooking up, so just be an adult and communicate with her. Work it out.
/r/seduction25/03/13 10:41 AM
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I would usually agree but it worked for him! Some girls dig the random haha
/r/seduction25/03/13 10:32 AM
1

Don't stress. 2. Make a move. 3. Don't stress, just talk to her. Be fun.
/r/seduction25/03/13 10:27 AM
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Very good! This is where pick up meets practical life skills. Some people are just passive by nature (or nurture) and need to break out of it and take charge. Rock on dude
/r/seduction25/03/13 10:11 AM
5

Pimp mode unlocked!
/r/seduction25/03/13 09:13 AM
1

Don't worry about smoothness as much as just not fucking up (don't be a creep). There's nothing wrong with just asking questions (as long as you answer your own questions interestingly while encouraging her to give good responses) while holding solid eye contact and kinoing throughout. Bottom line: establish the man-to-woman frame properly from the beginning and there will be no need for routines EVER - you'll just be you, unstifled and routine independent. There will always be certain things yo…
/r/seduction25/03/13 09:00 AM
1

Sick post.. upvote
/r/seduction23/03/13 10:02 AM
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She was testing you to see how reactive you are. Men aren't supposed to be reactive to women. Men are grounded and centered while affecting and controlling women around them. Women react to men and other women. Which is so far from true that I almost felt insulted. I have short hair and act nothing like one. This girl doesn't even know me. You demonstrated mentally and verbally that you cared what she thought more than what you thought. If you truly cared more about what you thought, her comment…
/r/seduction20/03/13 06:37 AM
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I'd say, don't worry about it. You're probably messing up your game by adjusting your game due to thinking that you messed up your game. Just game forward as per usual and see where it goes. Push for another date and don't appear needy again - you got it right.
/r/seduction20/03/13 06:28 AM
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I recently had an opportunity to close a tourist in my city. Alas, her schedule clashed with mine and she disappeared the next day. Great field report man - the mentality thing is great :)
/r/seduction20/03/13 06:17 AM
2

Perfection.
/r/seduction20/03/13 06:12 AM
1

Great post! A lot of people are going to benefit from this!
/r/seduction14/02/13 10:04 AM
1

Great job brother :)
/r/seduction03/11/12 08:11 PM
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I wish you the best my friend :)
/r/seduction15/10/12 12:07 AM
2

Gareth Jones. He's got some great phone/text material if you get a chance to check it out! Also, Google 'Ben Js first date'. He outlines how he sets up his dates and how his apartment helps him with the actual seduction.
/r/seduction15/10/12 12:05 AM
1

There are always exceptions my friend.
/r/seduction14/10/12 07:42 AM
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Your approach anxiety will eventually lessen as you talk to more women. There's nothing wrong with just saying hello. My advice: Call to plan the first date. If it goes to voicemail, say 'Hey it's XX, I just saw the craziest thing, I just wanted to tell you. Give me a call back'. If she texts back after your voicemail with 'what did you wanna tell me?', tell her 'I'll tell you when you call me back :)'. When she picks up / returns the call, tell her 'I just wanted to get you on the phone :P'. He…
/r/seduction14/10/12 07:36 AM
3

A man's attractiveness is rooted in his resourcefulness and power, not his looks whereas a woman's attractiveness is rooted in her appearance and fertility. Once you understand this, it's so clear why confidence in men is important. It's a broad stroke indicator of resourcefulness, power, wealth, health, intelligence, etc. Men aren't 'making up' for anything - a physically attractive man who has no resources or intelligence would be useless in nature, whereas an ugly man with resources and wit w…
/r/seduction14/10/12 06:36 AM
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In the situation of being pushed onto the dance floor into three girls, just dance your thing! They will, more often than not, dance around you. You will have then started what I call a dance ring. After a minute of showing off some cool moves, you should grab one of the non-target girls and push her into the middle of the dance ring for her to show off. You can then attempt to isolate and/or chat a target up. This is my method of gaining dance floor social proof. If at all I get eye contact fro…
/r/seduction13/10/12 12:52 PM
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Ask about the relationship status before asking them out for a drink. That's what I do. They have to be receptive to a date before you hit on them. Otherwise, you're just another inconsiderate douche. If they say 'I'm taken', then make 'friends' with them and go out with them as friends. They will have hot friends to introduce to you I'm sure. These girls could be gatekeepers. Lesson: it's okay to be make friends with a woman to meet her hot friends. If you specifically want to bed these girls, …
/r/seduction11/10/12 12:51 PM
1

I would say get them on a phone call. Texting is super impersonal. You said the right stuff, but you really needed to say it on the phone as your voice will humanize you and remind them of why they liked you in the first place. Also, its ballsey since almost nobody calls to set up anything these days. AFCs will fuck up the call, but you won't. It's a huge DHV. If it goes to voicemail, say 'Hey, it's XX, i just saw the craziest thing and wanted to tell you! Anyway, call me back'. If they're sly, …
/r/seduction11/10/12 12:27 PM
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If she's attractive, she'll have at least a few men texting her, so make sure you elicit a response. That said, I always end my texts with some sort of open-ended question. It's generally better than a statement in eliciting responses (although some cocky statements are better than questions). It's also a gauge of attraction. If she's digging you, she'll be more talkative and text longer in-depth responses in which you can escalate to sexting quite quickly (and cut down on date-to-sex time). If …
/r/seduction11/10/12 12:05 PM
1

If you read Wayne Elise's Juggler ebook, he actually says that its preferable to briefly discuss relationship status before hitting on women. It shows you're aware of boundaries (social intuition). You can actually casually ask about the strength of their relationship - if she mentions that it's on the rocks, you're good to escalate sexually soon after! But as the other dude said, don't go discussing it in deep detail or else it's friend-zone season!
/r/seduction11/10/12 11:54 AM
1

What did she do?
/r/seduction11/10/12 11:34 AM
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I used to be in a similar situation awhile ago. As you said, you're playing the part of the court jester and you realize the detrimental effects it has on your social life. You will want to figure out those behaviors that lead to perception of lower value and expunge them from your life. Also, adopt behaviors of alpha males. Alpha males only make fun of themselves if they know that it won't lower their value. Don't make fun of yourself just to get people to laugh - that's a cheap trick and gets …
/r/seduction11/10/12 11:28 AM
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You're in your head the whole time and that's not what you want. Forget micromanaging the steps and realize that seduction is an interactive and fluid process. You must pay attention because not every interaction is going to adhere to your model of game. Things will be unpredictable, so just trust that you know the basic structure and pay attention! Some steps can be skipped and some will take longer depending on the girl. Most of all, just have fun. Analyze after the interaction, not during.
/r/seduction11/10/12 11:03 AM
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You need to display a wide range of facial expressions. You need to show your standard emotions at the appropriate times - happy, sad, pissed, confused, super happy, cocky happy, inquisitive, silly, duck face (and more of course) Without control of all these expressions, women will definitely be creeped out - they will always be thinking 'can I trust this guy?' And the answer is always no. Go out for the purpose of exhibiting a full range of facial expressions. Rock on \m/
/r/seduction07/10/12 02:50 AM
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Stop thinking like that. You're still in that mode of 'why would anyone like me?'. There will always be women who like what you offer. The point of Seddit and other seduction groups/techniques is to broaden that subset of women. An unshakable confidence coupled with your own unique skillsets and attitude are what will skyrocket your attractiveness. Work on your skills and work on your attitude. It will fall into place.
/r/seduction06/10/12 10:25 PM
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I believe there was a similar thread about this. If you're approached and called cute, you've got an upper hand. Like the other dude said, be a funny dominant man. Your confidence and attitude are what will make them think you're hot. They already think you're cute, so just work from there. Your hottness will spill out from within and they will realize it. The difference between cute and hot is the personality you convey. Sure, there will be physically hot men, but swag/power/resourcefulness/etc…
/r/seduction06/10/12 03:07 AM
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Think about the mindset you have at parties/events. Try to have that same mindset of, 'I will amuse myself, let's see if she's cool with it'. Try it and let me know what you think :)
/r/seduction06/10/12 02:51 AM
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I also like getting numbers from men who have hot girls as friends. Some have tight game also and they have helped. So don't dismiss making guy friends as a strategy :) An abundance of friends ultimately will give you an abundance of women! Goodnight sir.
/r/seduction05/10/12 08:06 AM
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My pleasure sir. It's only recently that I realized how important building a social circle is. I'm currently building mine and I recommend it!
/r/seduction05/10/12 07:50 AM
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I would say keep her as a gatekeeper. She can grant you access to more women, some who could be hotter/cooler/sexier maybe even. That's just my move - if anyone else says differently and you agree with them, follow their advice. Nonetheless, it sounds like you're in a great positon! Keep it up brother :)
/r/seduction05/10/12 07:31 AM
2

Props buddy! You understand the value of having good physique and grooming habits.
/r/seduction05/10/12 02:13 AM
2

Bad troll! Bad!
/r/seduction04/10/12 06:21 AM
2

Look it up brother!
/r/seduction04/10/12 06:03 AM
2

What makes you think your outspoken attitude during your teenage years is a good thing? I cannot comprehend the stupidity of asking advice on seduction but then telling your advice givers that you'll never change. You've entertained us, that much is certain.
/r/seduction04/10/12 03:45 AM
2

Good luck keeping a job with your lack of social skills and stubborn attitude. Wake the fuck up.
/r/seduction04/10/12 03:12 AM
2

You're a bad troll.
/r/seduction04/10/12 03:09 AM
3

Sound advice, but this kid will not listen.
/r/seduction04/10/12 03:08 AM
1

Hope you purchase some good sex, buddy :)
/r/seduction04/10/12 03:00 AM
1

Call her. Set up a date. Build the relationship in person. Texting should be at a minimum anyways lol
/r/seduction04/10/12 01:36 AM
3

This man has got it. Disqualification, not neg.
/r/seduction04/10/12 01:16 AM
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These are just tips. I've realized them myself over the years: Stay odd but develop some abilities to connect with people. Seduction is by nature, a way of connecting with women. So figure a way to keep the rapport breaking but add some rapport building. Sorry to hear about the jerking off bit my friend... Women really prefer slangier language than you might think. Whip out the bigger words on occasion. Don't joke about rape in front of strange women (don't you think that's tacky lol?)
/r/seduction04/10/12 01:14 AM
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Read Wayne Elise's Juggler method ebook. He mentions common topics for rapport building as well as transitioning techniques, takeaways, when to give statements of intent etc. Couple this with kino and you'll be fine good sir :)
/r/seduction03/10/12 09:28 AM
1

Listen to this man.
/r/seduction03/10/12 09:02 AM
2

Show interest after she has given a valiant effort to show you she is worth your time. Then do a takeaway. Rinse repeat.
/r/seduction03/10/12 04:25 AM
2

I would say go for whomever you want. It's just one set out of many throughout the night.
/r/seduction03/10/12 04:23 AM
2

Look up 'Ben Js first date' he breaks it down!
/r/seduction03/10/12 02:44 AM
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Being cold in the very beginning is good. But once you've gotten them to open up to you, you gotta reward them and tell them that you like them for reasons other than sex. Become a warm and funny guy. Don't be a douchie, witty, cold dude the whole time. You've gotta show a full range of emotions.
/r/seduction28/09/12 07:21 AM
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I believe they call this leveling up. Cheers brother :)
/r/seduction27/09/12 05:35 PM
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