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And remember that false accusations are a crime as well, so we must hold the accuser to the same standard. "He is innocent until proven guilty" does not imply "she is lying until proven true"
/r/MensRights27/05/16 08:49 PM
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I'm not the one making claims here.
/r/MensRights01/05/16 11:06 AM
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"all" is a strong word, can you actually link to a feminist making such a bold claim or is it just a strawman?
/r/MensRights01/05/16 10:35 AM
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"How do you define species" is an age-old question in biology and one without an obvious answer. I think that any definition that would come to the conclusion that men and women were a different species would be a definition worth revision
/r/MensRights27/04/16 06:54 AM
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This is not the type of constructive remark that this subreddit needs
/r/MensRights27/04/16 06:48 AM
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Exactly. It's fine to say that "yes means yes" laws are being excessive, but men and this subreddit (and in general) ought to simply admit that nobody was ever any worse off for a "Hey, are you OK with having sex? Yes? OK."
/r/MensRights18/09/15 01:34 AM
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Er... Do your dorms not have a cleaning staff that comes through and cleans the public areas every weekday? The conditions inside someone's rooms shouldn't be of concern because men won't get assigned female roommates anyway.
/r/MensRights14/06/15 08:31 PM
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I'm pretty sure a goddamned rape victim is going to pay more attention to the "cans" of rape, compared to your average Jane. Regardless of whether you tell it in this godawful way that's going to impede their recovery from their trauma. For the cautious approach versus the direct approach, you have to balance the benefit of additional potential rape prevention against the acute distress caused. I feel the balance lies in favor of the cautious approach. I sincerely hope you never meet a rape vict…
/r/MensRights12/06/15 12:52 AM
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"Hey, are you ok with sex? Yes? Ok, good inserts penis" is preferable 100% of the time to "she said she'd be OK with it last night" A lot of detail is missing. Though it may not be in your best interest to post further detail lest it find its way into a courtroom, I'm not inclined to side with you very strongly right now.
/r/MensRights12/06/15 12:47 AM
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The benefits of being told general safety advice is not lost on a woman who has been raped, but you do need to be aware that you're liable to cause them enormous distress, if you don't tread very lightly, and therefore be very cautious. I do hope you agree with this at least? To that end, you could refer to things that can happen, rather than condemning them for things that did happen. "Don't wander into dark alleys, don't accept drinks from strangers, don't get overly intoxicated" rather than "…
/r/MensRights11/06/15 10:24 PM
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OP, you fucked up and you should get a lawyer. That being said, you fucked up by possibly raping a girl and I am not inclined to be entirely sympathetic. Your story leaves a lot to the imagination. I don't know how drunk you were, I don't know how drunk your friend was, it definitely sounds like you never asked "are you ok with us having sex?" which is ALWAYS a GOOD idea, "yes means yes" laws or not.
/r/MensRights11/06/15 08:37 PM
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Oh that's wonderful, she was conscious but incredibly intoxicated. How consensual.
/r/MensRights11/06/15 08:36 PM
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I hope you see the inherent cruelty in listing a rape victim's mistakes to her?
/r/MensRights11/06/15 08:35 PM
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I think that there is a firm line to be made between blaming and giving advice. But honestly I think that both of your statements are on the "blame" side. It is good advice not to get shitfaced in an unfamiliar area. But if someone is raped and alcohol was a factor, you are not going to do that person any good by talking about what she could have done differently.
/r/MensRights10/06/15 11:47 PM
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Can't count on the snail mail. The report is that the procedure is for this Thursday.
/r/MensRights09/06/15 04:17 AM
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assault weapon* Actually "assault weapon" is a bullshit made up term, but it's literally not an "assault rifle" so let's not use either
/r/MensRights07/06/15 01:35 AM
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Honestly a weird as fuck comparison and I don't know what to do with it. Maybe she wouldn't be kicked out. But drawing an analogue like this just makes everything ridiculous. One of the problems I find with the MRA movement (also to be had with the feminist movement) is that sometimes people will try desperately to look for ways to make the sexes equal in places where it's just not going to happen. For example, when redditors advocated lawsuits against the gender studies teacher who gave men ext…
/r/MensRights05/06/15 12:24 AM
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To be perfectly honest, it'd probably be a lot less obvious if a woman became aroused. As such, women would be less susceptible to removal.
/r/MensRights04/06/15 03:29 PM
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That's... kind of a stretch, honestly. What media about men being fed through a woodchipper do you have in mind? There's plenty of examples of sex above and beyond "two consenting adults having consensual sex" without strong reaction to be found
/r/MensRights03/06/15 05:32 AM
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Wesleyan officially endorses campus residences such as “Women of Color House,” “Light House” for Christian students and “Open House” for “Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender, Transsexual, Queer, Questioning, Flexural, Asexual, Genderfuck, Polyamorous, Bondage/Discipline, Dominance/Submission, Sadism/Masochism (LGBTTQQFAGPBDSM) communities.” what I checked Snopes to see if this was a satire site after I read that line, I couldn't find any such evidence though EDIT: http://www.wesleyan.edu/reslife…
/r/MensRights30/05/15 05:39 PM
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It's nature versus nurture brah. There's a lot of differences between men and women, and a lot of those are pretty clearly biological, but so too do a lot seem like they could be social constructs. And maybe we find evidence that one or two of the "social construct" category is actually biological, but not everything is going to be proven as such. There are inevitably parts of us that aren't tied directly to any part of our chromosomes.
/r/MensRights04/05/15 02:59 AM
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I'm pretty sure they mean they don't want actual rape victims to be dissuaded from reporting actual rape
/r/MensRights02/05/15 11:08 PM
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"The United Nations Commission on Human Rights ruled in 2012 that the criminalization of libel violates freedom of expression and is inconsistent with Article 19 of the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights." More than "extremely difficult", I feel it's probably best something left as a civil issue.
/r/MensRights27/04/15 03:59 AM
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I think that Carlin's a little over the top with that. As our understanding of these things improves, we realize that the last names just aren't good. Is PTSD caused by "fatigue"? Is it "exhaustion"? It literally isn't, so those names are incorrect. "Shell shock" rolls off the tongue but it's not the kind of terminology you use for a psychiatric diagnosis. Post-traumatic stress disorder is the best we have right now and isn't likely to significantly change any time in the future. It's like "reta…
/r/MensRights19/04/15 05:37 PM
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Seven kids, it said.
/r/MensRights23/03/15 01:46 AM
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Really weird misinformation (disinformation?) being given out, but everyone laughing at this should keep in mind that it is true that Linda Lovelace later became an anti-pornography activist, being about as qualified as anybody to fill that position, I suppose. She alleged that she had been raped, beaten, threatened into acting Deep Throat, had money for said acting stolen, etc, etc. There's evidence both ways on these claims but scary to think about. Not a nice story.
/r/MensRights22/03/15 02:13 AM
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A better reason that the analogy doesn't work is that abdominal evisceration is far too uncommon to warrant any sweeping educational reform.
/r/MensRights20/03/15 12:17 AM
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I mean, I guess there's disparities in a few ways, and we can think of them all as being unfair, and things to work against. But I really can't help but feel that overall women get the short end of the stick on this one. =/ What are the real consequences of men's sexuality not being valued?
/r/MensRights07/03/15 06:35 AM
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I'm saying he raises a fine point, but it might be a little out of place at worst. So sluts and studs aren't the same thing. Is that fair?
/r/MensRights07/03/15 01:34 AM
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The double standard is a legitimate issue to raise, and it's fine for him to do so, if a little questionable why to do so in comment-reply form rather than in the main thread.
/r/MensRights07/03/15 01:23 AM
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I really wish we could have the one without the other, that is, I wish we could advise proactive protection and safety while drawing a firm line and never admonishing the victim of the crime after the fact. That doesn't do any good.
/r/MensRights16/01/15 04:20 AM
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I've thought about this for a while; I suffer from a disease that's super unresearched and underfunded because it's an unromantic genetic disease of the skin groin that sucks ass but doesn't actually kill you. It's always good to donate money to charity. However, I feel that out of the total pool of money donated to charity, every cause has its own fair share. Specifically, out of the pool of disease research money, every disease has its fair share. It's totally valid to argue that one disease i…
/r/MensRights10/01/15 10:25 PM
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What boils down to "Just let it happen" is a tall order from someone who, I assume is not a victim of rape themself. I tried to look up some formal studies on whether pepper spray has statistically shown to be of use, but wasn't able to find any. That's definitely something that should be looked into by someone. Still, for lack of data, I can't make myself subscribe to the belief that pepper spray would "lead to more female deaths". I think that it's honestly probably going to help a lot of wome…
/r/MensRights07/01/15 05:58 PM
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I don't really see how police shooting statistics is relevant; I'd like pepper spray to be available for people to protect themselves from rapists. Isn't this the subreddit where we support a woman's right to practice self-defense?
/r/MensRights07/01/15 09:59 AM
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Shame, but I'm sure you'll agree that a prohibition on pepper spray is pretty damn ridiculous.
/r/MensRights07/01/15 03:36 AM
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If we are allowed to definitively call her a "gruntslut" because she "may" have been cheating on her boyfriend, then I suppose I'm allowed to abandon the term "alleged" and declare him a straight up "rapist"? How about we set aside judgment until we have more information - better yet, until a conviction is made? Your fundamental error here seems to be to think that "he is innocent until proven guilty" implies that "she is a gruntslut until proven innocent". In reality, we have to realize that be…
/r/MensRights06/01/15 06:47 PM
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You almost raise good points until you automatically defer to the opposite end of the spectrum, declare it MUST be a false rape, declare the boyfriend MUST have acted without cause, and declare this woman is worthy of the horrific term "gruntslut", just based on her accusal of rape. Does "innocent until proven guilty" expire as soon as you try to apply it to allegations of a woman's false cry of rape? If you want us to concede that we don't have enough information to bring ourselves out of innoc…
/r/MensRights06/01/15 06:06 PM
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No, that is the only thing that YOU know from the article that he could tell at that moment. Beyond that, we do not have any information about what made him think that it was rape, but I don't think it's that much of a stretch that she yelled help or "I'm being raped", in which case physical force is justified until police arrive. What IS a stretch is to automatically assume that the news article is leaving out information proving it was consensual.
/r/MensRights06/01/15 12:04 AM
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