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Men are overweight/obese at the same rates that women are. There’s no evidence that they are putting more work into fitness as a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:38 PM
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What do you think “advice” means?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:08 AM
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Then the word is meaningless, and so was your comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 03:04 AM
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What isn’t shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 01:38 AM
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People generally don’t like wasting their own time In my experience, men don’t typically consider sex and dead-end relationships with attractive women a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:46 PM
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It’s literally not advice...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:42 PM
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So where did your impression come from? That women only care about personality?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:37 PM
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Men dating childfree women without revealing that they plan to settle with someone who will have their biological children. Or even hiding that they have actual children for several dates. Men dating women of different races and religion without revealing that they plan to settle with someone of the same ethnicity.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:25 PM
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And that implies absolutely nothing about whether women only care about personality...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:22 PM
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So you are taking back saying that it’s “rare?” The disagreement is about whether it’s common.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:18 PM
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and the guys who do get casual sex usually have no problem getting girlfriends and often have their pick of the litter for that I think they are disputing this part, and I agree with them. Let’s say an incredibly hot guy has sex with 100 women in a year. It may be that 50 of those women would date him because of his looks alone! But the other 50 would never consider dating him, because he has other red flags as a potential boyfriend. The hottest guys I’ve slept with are men that I wouldn’t have …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:05 PM
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BP women in particular criticize men for being shallow (the implication being that it’s too difficult for most women to meet those preferences) Usually when I hear women complaining about men being shallow, it’s because it’s so much harder to vet partners for compatibility when men are only focused on looks. Men will pursue women that are objectively incompatible, because they are attracted physically, wasting women’s time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:56 PM
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I was under the impression that the “bluepill” believes women genuinely don’t care about looks as much As much as WHAT. Women care about looks =/= women care about looks as much as _____
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:43 PM
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Why wouldn’t that be OK?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:38 PM
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I said the exact opposite. men really underestimate the number of hot fun men who are 100% honest
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:37 PM
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Whoa, this happens all the time...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:29 PM
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Gullible? I don’t know what you’re responding to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:28 PM
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They open their mouths and make words to say they are not interested in anything serious.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:27 PM
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But your post says they are not honest about not committing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:19 PM
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You: u have standards higher than u should If there’s something I have commented that you want to discuss, please quote it directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:13 PM
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“dating” men that would never commit to her (but won’t tell her, else they don’t fuck) I think men really underestimate the number of hot fun men who are 100% honest about not committing. Hot fun men can have casual sex and sitiationships without misleading anyone. Some of them certainly do that, because of personality issues. But they are not the ones who need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:11 PM
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What did I say about my standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:03 PM
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so you will defend the situationship rotation I can’t imagine what part of my comments you’ve interpreted this way, but please feel free to quote it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:53 PM
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women are more shallow than men when we are talking about judging appearance only. ...if physical appearance is the ONLY thing being considered, it has to be the first thing considered... and the last thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:27 PM
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What does that have to do with “genderwars?”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:22 PM
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And there’s nothing in this comment that suggests that women who lower their standards are any happier. And if they are, I’d prefer to hear it from them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:20 PM
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Did you mean to reply to me? Why are you telling me that Youtube has channels?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:11 PM
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What do other women have to do with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:09 PM
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a guy failing for the onlyfans girl We’re talking about a man putting his credit card into a website. Not having feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:04 PM
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So you’re calling her a liar because other women have kids without being married? (Less than half of mothers)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 04:01 PM
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Oh, how did the comment of single mothers relate to their comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:44 PM
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What’s the logic there? If you’re ONLY considering physical appearance, how is it more or less superficial to like more or less of them? I don’t see how that would have ANY relationship to being shallow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 03:12 PM
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Why is that a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:02 PM
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Do you think all those single moms got pregnant with the 1%?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 02:01 PM
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If lowering standards is what results in great relationships with men who put in effort, why aren’t women speaking to that experience? Why is it men that advise women to lower their standards? Instead of women in happy relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:31 AM
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How is that equivalent?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:25 AM
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Healthy women don’t prioritize keeping just any man.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 11:20 AM
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Are you interpreting “lower your standards” to mean, “do not date anyone above a specific standard?” Is that what men do? They turn down sex with more attractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 09:04 AM
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I’m not following. Was it your intention to give me a general explanation of why people give advice to others without explanation? Unrelated to this post?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:54 AM
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In comments, OP says he’s never had a girlfriend. Or even a friend group. I have no reason to think this is based on what has worked for him, or people he knows personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:43 AM
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Feel free to quote the relevant parts of the post and provide your interpretations.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:17 AM
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It’s very, “My advice is that everyone else should give me $20.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:48 AM
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Men did not struggle to what? Men don’t have the same expectations from romantic relationships that they did 50 years ago. Men make post after post complaining about any woman who “makes them wait for sex.” If you want easy premarital sex from women, expect to be judged on whether you’re worth easy premarital sex. Women are judging men differently because they are judging them for different kinds of interactions.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:47 AM
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Even men who are attractive are being rated as unattractive I don’t know what you are referring to. If you’re saying that a man attractive to one woman is not attractive to other women... of course? People have different preferences. Unattractive to me =/= unattractive to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:36 AM
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I can’t speak to that percentage. But yes, women tend to rate attraction in subjective terms (who is and isn’t attractive to her) instead of “sexual market value” terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:17 AM
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I never hear women rate men on a 1-10 scale.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 06:02 AM
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It’s always weird when someone gives “advice” to a group of people, and doesn’t include a single solitary reference to any benefit that group would experience if they followed said “advice.”
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:45 AM
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convince a guy to prefer it Are you operating under the assumption that women are trying to convince men to be in relationships with women? Or they they should be doing that?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 05:35 AM
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Are there not a lot of toxic women?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:57 PM
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You don’t understand why people in DEBATES have different opinions... You don’t understand why you aren’t “welcomed” for saying that you’re “bothered in a deep way” by someone having a position in a DEBATE... What are you doing participating in these debates in the first place, if you can’t handle the premise?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:54 PM
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Almost like feminism isn’t about your pee pee.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:15 PM
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Again, I don’t know what you mean. Let’s say my boyfriend’s mom dies. He cries. I hug him. We have an emotional conversation. Is that “sexual in nature” because he’s my boyfriend?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 01:11 AM
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What do you mean “and?” You made false statements. A mother doesn't have the authority to sign away a child's right to parental support. If simply stating "I bear no responsibility" for our actions made it legally true A woman can get pregnant, leave the father blank on the birth certificate, and then surrender the kid at a fire station without any legal liability. This is absolutely and completely legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/25 12:11 AM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 11:21 PM
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So then emotional intimacy and physical intimacy are not off the table. Plenty of sisters hug and cuddle. Plenty of people have close emotional connections with their siblings. Sibling relationships are often high in trust and closeness.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 11:20 PM
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Casual sex alone is not that enjoyable to me. Relationships, even casual ones, take time and effort that I’d rather put towards a primary partner or other parts of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 09:10 PM
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Now that you’ve stealth-edited your post.. Your assumptions are unfounded. Not shaming sex would not make sex easy to access or eliminate “gate-keeping.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 09:07 PM
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I still don’t know what you mean, because you’re not explaining what kinds of physical and emotional intimacy people can ONLY have with someone they are sexually attracted to. What does that mean to you? Please be more specific.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 09:02 PM
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If you removed sex and intimacy from the world Like, no sexual contact? Or like, no one can hold hands or give massages? Or like, no emotional intimacy with anyone?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 06:44 PM
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A world where access to sex what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 06:41 PM
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Later years as in over 60. The majority of middle aged people are partnered, both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:55 PM
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Most young women are partnered to someone a bit older than them, so more young men are single. In later years, more women are single (and often not interesting in dating).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:46 PM
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Marriages where the wife is significantly more successful almost never last even when the husband is good. There is data on this stuff. No, there is not data on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:23 PM
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Great, it should be easy for you to find out about it then.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 05:13 PM
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no shit, I doubt he didn’t know that. But I do doubt it. You have faith that OP knows something, despite all of his words suggesting otherwise. It’s your choice to think OP believes something contradicted by his words. But people who take his words at face value aren’t arguing in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 04:33 PM
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But how is it obvious to you that he is not asking about exactly what he’s confused about? The post reads as literal to me. We’ve been told to embrace more feminine qualities, yet those who relentlessly pursue their goals and exhibit ambition seem to be rewarded You really don’t think OP is confused about how people can be goal-oriented and in touch with their feelings? Why do you think those are archetypes?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:42 PM
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Men will all jump up and down to sign such a waiver and there will be few options of those who haven’t. The only ones who won’t will be desperate men who can’t put a hurdle in their way to get access to sex. These men aren’t likely to be desirable. But you think most men will require the waiver, even though you’re not sure most women will sign it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:36 PM
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Why do you think most women will sign the waiver and have sex with men who require it?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:20 PM
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Talk me through this. Your theory is that OP has noticed that many women say they want A, and that many women date X. But your theory is that OP did not make a post about A and X... instead he chose archetypes to compare?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:16 PM
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idk exactly how the state determines such a woman is acting in good faith Sure, let me know when you find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:02 PM
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Do American taxpayers get to sign a waiver American taxpayers don’t have a choice when women choose to leave “father” blank on the birth certificate. This happens all the times. She didn’t have a choice in the matter now. Of course she did. She could have had sex with one of the billions of men on the planet that didn’t require her to sign a waiver. this is all about men getting 0 accountability in sex when you already I’m a woman. I think women would benefit from being able to easily identify m…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:58 PM
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But OPs false beliefs about masculinity are the root of the question. OP believes that being “in touch your feelings” changes everything about a man. It changes his fashion choices. It changes the exercises he does at the gym, for some reason! OP believes that men, and presumably women, CANNOT be emotional AND strong. OPs confusion about women is rooted in his ignorance, his confusion that other women don’t have the same false beliefs that he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:45 PM
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In the US, 27% percent of men have tattoos. AND 38% OF WOMEN HAVE TATTOOS. It is completely illogical to frame tattoos as “masculine,” much less mutually exclusive with “being in touch with feelings.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:33 PM
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Women don’t have to have sex with these men. The only pregnancies involved are the ones risked (or intended) by the woman who choose to sign this waiver. Surely any woman who would sign the waiver and have sex with the guy would be confident in her birth control (or infertility), comfortable getting an abortion, willing to have a kid on her own, or wanting a kid in her own.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:27 PM
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What do you think happens of a woman leaves the “father” section of the birth certificate blank? Does the state prosecute her for violating her child’s “rights?” Can her child sue her for violating their “rights?” THIS HAPPENS EVERY MOMENT OF EVERY DAY
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:19 PM
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There is no reason to give men the option to decide whether to claim a kid during pregnancy, much less after childbirth. Pregnancy does not provide any new information to them, as it can for women. Pregnancy often reveals health conditions for women that impact their choices. There is a reasonable argument that men should be able to disavow responsibility for potential children BEFORE SEX. Have the woman sign a waiver that she understands you will bear no responsibility for any resulting pregnan…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 03:48 AM
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What do you think “quantified” means?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 02:19 AM
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Quantified it how?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:16 PM
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Women who prioritize character tend to be above-average in attractiveness How do you figure?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:45 PM
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it would be very embarrassing for the women’s movement that constantly insists Again, could you please substantiate this in some way? This is not a talking point of any feminists organizations that I’m aware of. Where are you getting this?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:59 PM
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That’s not really an argument, it’s just a collection of subjective judgments. You have your idea of what is special and who is broken. So does everyone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 03:48 PM
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What exactly is your argument? Sex isn’t special because that’s just a subjective judgment? You literally say that’s what does make sex special. It can be special, but that’s entirely subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 03:38 PM
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I’ve don’t hear feminists say that domestic violence was more prevalent in the 1950s. Can you point to any major organizations that reference that as a core message? The message I hear from feminist organizations is that the improvement for women is being able to get help/leave situations that are abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 03:00 PM
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I don’t understand your logic here. Would you point towards the rise in racial violence in the 1930s+ and say the KKK was a bad look... for abolitionists? The civil rights movement?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 01:30 PM
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They are correlated with having any values and any mindset? Or with particular values and mindset?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:08 AM
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it likely means that domestic violence also shot up — not a good look for the feminists Why would this say anything about feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 04:20 AM
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Do you just mean economic class? Economic class and socioeconomic class are related, but not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:37 PM
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What do you mean lie to justify their choices?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:02 PM
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People pair up with others of the same socioeconomic status because people tend to only associate If your theory were true, online dating should have changed the stats already. At this point, most couples meet online. If men did not care about class, or preferred partners of a lower income, they’d be finding them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:29 PM
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Are you saying the first date can never be romantic unless both people are in love by the end of the first date?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:25 AM
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A first date can never be romantic unless both people are already in love?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:22 AM
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But your entire point is that friendships cannot be as meaningful as romantic relationships, but you now acknowledge that there’s a whole category of romantic relationships that are NOT meaningful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:16 AM
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And yet it exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:11 AM
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Who is the objective decider of when someone has done something wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 08:10 AM
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So women shouldn’t say anything that men would find objectionable?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:56 AM
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How does your comment answer my question asking what the supply of high earners has to do with it being shallow to have income standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:40 AM
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How is this related to the comments above?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:34 AM
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If a woman is not talking TO the man, it isn’t an accusation AT ALL. You are telling me this post is also intended to silence women talking to each other about experiences that creeped them out. It is NORMAL and APPROPRIATE for people to talk about experiences that made them feel uncomfortable.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:12 AM
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In the comments, you yourself agree than many types of behavior are actually creepy. But you don’t want women to actually talk about the experiences they personally find creepy? What exactly do you expect? Do you want women to write you personally and ask, “A guy asked me out in a dark parking lot. It made me so scared. Is it OK for me to tell my friend that I found that creepy?” What do you actually want to happen here?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 03:00 AM
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You seem to be the one so upset about something you need to interject it in unrelated discussions...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:53 AM
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So it’s off-topic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:49 AM
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But you are not taking about all kinds of romantic relationships. You are only talking about committed partners that you live with and plan a future with. “It is supposed to be forever.” A small percentage of romantic relationships aspire to meet your definition, and even fewer succeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:48 AM
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What does that have to do with whether it’s “shallow” or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:39 AM
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Are you referring to one of these situations, or both? A woman directly telling a man that he is being creepy A woman telling another person that she found a guy creepy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 02:34 AM
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It seems like you are saying: No public data = deliberately ineffective product But then you should be able to reference companies that are neither. Is it common for companies with successful products to share a lot of data about customer behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:35 PM
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I’m not aware of any similar products publishing equivalent data. LinkedIn? Meetup? Angie’s List?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:24 PM
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Almost no “dating app stats” are publicly available.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:58 PM
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I understand your theory. I’m just saying that I see absolutely no evidence of that theory being true in real life. On the contrary, the women I know have much stronger bullshit detectors for guys. Guys are the ones saying, “oh, but he seems like a good guy,” or “I’m sure it was just a joke,” and “you should give him another chance” after a guy pushes boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:37 PM
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But if both men and women are biased towards superficial qualities in men, how do men suddenly become unbiased judges? If there’s a cool guy in a band, and both men and women admire the guy, despite his red flags, how can you suddenly say that men aren’t biased just because they don’t want to literally touch his penis? Look at all the famous men who have been exposed for corruption. Look at Diddy. So many men are fooled too. But we’re suddenly supposed to think they’re the experts on judging cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:24 PM
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But even if I take your word for it that you personally are immune to ever thinking a mean guy is cool, that says nothing about men as a group. When I use my own eyeballs and look at humans in the real world... I see men flocking to obnoxious guys who are good at sports or music. I see men promoting employees who aren’t good at their job but good at talking about themselves. I even see men being more respectful to really tall guys. Tall candidates were even more likely to win elections before wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:06 PM
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I’ve known plenty of “good guys” who have entertained friendships with obviously toxic guys that they’ve later had to cut off.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:50 PM
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But how does this manifest in real life? I’ve known a lot of men who’ve had to cut out toxic male friends from their lives. I have not seen evidence of men being better able to recognize and avoid red flags in other men any better than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:46 PM
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I see rude offensive men who have male friends. Do you not see this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:35 PM
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I’ve never seen this be an issue when the group is explicitly a men’s group. But often, groups just identify as an interest group, then bristle when women try to join. If you’re pretending to be a video game club, of course women into video games are going to try to join and be offended when told no. Just be honest about being a men’s group that focuses on video games.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:55 PM
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“Justify” meaning what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 06:56 PM
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If you believe the concept of hypergamy developed before women could leave their husbands, how can you believe it means leaving your husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:55 PM
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Sorry, are you saying that you think this is a pervasive social issue, across men and women, of all ages, that impacts men’s mental health... ...but that you made a post about feminism causing these issues??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:43 PM
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Are you aware of any research source that uses that term that way? I’ve always heard it defined as “dating up” or “marrying up.” Didn’t the concept develop in India, where no one was leaving their spouses...?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:39 PM
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But if men also appreciate awesomeness in a wide variety of social interactions, how is it NOT “just normal?” Like, if a guy at the gym starts a conversation with someone who bench presses a lot of weight, and invites him to grab food after the gym, is that “not normal?” Men not having many friends also has a huge impact on their mental health. Are male creators drawing attention to the impact of guys starting friendships based on “awesomeness?”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 05:28 PM
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Could you elaborate? I see men validating “awesomeness” all the time, especially in each other. They express admiration for all kinds of effort- bodybuilding, sports technique, skill with musical instruments, building things, buying cool equipment for hobbies, achieving status in video games. Or are you saying that it’s only a problem when you appreciate awesomeness in romantic partners, but it’s fine for friendship and other relationships? Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:16 PM
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I don’t overlook them as reasons to WANT to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:39 PM
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So it’s not hypergamy unless you’ll leave a partner for better? So, a woman who only dates men who make $300k+ is not hypergamous unless she would divorce a husband for losing his job?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:38 PM
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Which OP directed addresses in the post.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:34 PM
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Would you say that people with diabetes don’t need insulin shots?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:32 PM
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Are you the person I asked?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:28 PM
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So, men are hypergamous that that’s good for society?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:24 PM
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You’re saying that the female body creates logic that gets men to stop arguing with women. How would that be unfortunate for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:22 PM
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These are actions, not thoughts. Why did you pretend that fantasies cause rape culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:11 PM
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I know sex isn’t a need because of how incels react when you suggest paying for it...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:07 PM
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How do you observe women reacting when raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 03:03 PM
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How could a thought inside someone’s head cause a culture? How would that work, literally? Like, if I fantasize about pineapple on pizza, but don’t tell anyone, would that bring about cultural change? How?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:55 PM
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Are you talking about “men would be less ambitious and play more video games,” or “men would advocate for women to lose human rights and rape women more than they do now?”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:34 PM
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Harmful to whom?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:28 PM
5

Women liking bad boys is hypergamy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:27 PM
4

Hypergamy is the thing people keep pointing out? How do they say we should be addressing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:15 PM
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Men almost always marry women who are younger than them. Isn’t that hypergamy? Considering that men are more interested in younger women?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:13 PM
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point out what we can do to address it What are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 02:06 PM
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Your first two examples are just two people who weren’t as good of friends as you wanted them to be. Your third example was a coworker complaining about you being antisocial. These sound like really common experiences, and I don’t know why you’re drawing anymore conclusions about gender from them. Wanting to complain, but not listen to other people problems? I’ve seen men and women do this. Dropping friends after they move away? Dripping friends that need support? I’ve seen men and women do this…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 01:27 PM
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If you define “need” as “want,” of course you think every “want” is a “need.”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 12:54 PM
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Celibate men appear to have a higher risk of prostate cancer. You have not referenced any source that suggests this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:27 PM
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To be clear, you aren’t aware of any sources for this, right? They actually have a higher risk of prostate cancer.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 07:03 PM
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What is your source? The study of Mount Athos monks showed a much LOWER rate of prostate cancer, and studies of Catholic clergy have been similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:45 PM
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Are we looking at the same chart?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 06:25 PM
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If someone is close enough to participate in your video call, you’re rude for video calling from wherever it is you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 04:06 PM
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Do monks who take vows of celibacy die statistically earlier than other men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:59 PM
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“Compromise” is not relevant to debates. It’s relevant to negotiations. When my friend and I are deciding where to go to dinner, compromising is relevant. If we’re debating which food is the best food ever, compromising is not relevant. For some reason, you think other people need to negotiate with you on dinners you aren’t invited to...
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 03:00 AM
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Retroactive jealousy ruins a lot of real life relationships. It’s way more enjoyable to date men who had fun and thinks it’s fine that you did too.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:47 AM
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Half of the posts here are by guys with some kind of problem with women who are more experienced than they are. Guys who will destroy the relationship the minute he realizes she ever had a one-night stand. Of course women would rather date a different kind of guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:43 AM
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monogamy suppresses a man’s core desires So men should not get into monogamous relationships, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:00 PM
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If someone has standards that can’t be met, they aren’t close to your house... They’re single, away from you. That’s how standards work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:51 PM
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I think you are conflating standards and entitlement. Having standards, and being unwilling to compromise them, doesn’t mean you feel entitled to anything other than the option to be single. I’d rather be single than accept most relationships. But I don’t feel entitled to, or even expect, the kind of relationship that meets my standards. I feel lucky when I find one that does.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:36 PM
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Of course it’s his choice to end any relationship he wants to end. But no, she doesn’t “need” to meet his expectations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:13 PM
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There is zero inconsistency here. Again, she cannot have anal sex for the first time again. That has no bearing on her feelings for OP or happiness with him. And of course she remembers things she did for the first time vividly. That’s how the brain works. People remember their first kiss better than kissing their wife last Tuesday. Absolutely nothing in the post contradicts that they have a great sex life and he’s the best she’s ever had.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 08:09 PM
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There is absolutely zero indication that she’s unhappy. She said he’s the best she’s ever had and literally calls him a “sex god.” You picked a post even you think is fake, and you still need to project false info into it?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:54 PM
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Where are you getting that she isn’t delighted? He says they have an amazing sex life. She’s really open-minded, they’re compatible, etc. And if she isn’t delighted... why is he OK with that at all? Why does he want to date someone who isn’t delighted to have sex with him, unless she likes someone else?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:39 PM
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Personally, I think it can be valuable to talk about past relationships and what we learned from them, how they shaped our ideas about relationships. But there is no missing “proper explanation” here. She was excited to try new things. There isn’t much left to try, per OP. Thats not rocket science. Porn stars make videos every year pretending to try anal for the first time... regular people do not.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 07:29 PM
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I think you are vastly overestimating the number of people who think their relationship would survive watching videos of their partner having sex with someone else and analyzing their reactions to photos of an FWB’s genitals. Your example is... bizarre. But I do see value in one part of it. The poster is not sure he wants to date someone who is not in her “experimental phase.” If he wants to date someone who is extremely sexually experimental, she isn’t it. It doesn’t matter what her past was li…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 06:58 PM
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end in breakups, and most of them are between partners of similar age. So clearly age gap isn’t the problem. This is a WILD take. It’s bizarre to use relationship longevity as the marker of success/failure. In countries where divorce is largely illegal, do you believe the majority of those relationships are successful? Why would you think that? It’s even more bizarre to say that anything that doesn’t end the majority of relationships isn’t a problem. Physical abuse isn’t present in most relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:03 PM
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Where are people getting pre-marital assets in the divorce? Almost every jurisdiction excludes them from consideration, unless they are comingled as marital assets (the non-owning spouse starts paying the mortgage).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:13 PM
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Is that what your fear is based on?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:05 PM
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Then what is the concern? Men married to working women with “sane” incomes don’t pay alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 02:01 PM
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I’m not following. You’d never get married to anyone with a drastically different income level. Are you saying that’s a problem? Are you saying that men don’t engage with women at all, because they don’t want to legally get married? There are a ton of unmarried cohabitation couples.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:59 PM
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The US has less common law marriage than ever. The US has less marriage than ever. The US awards alimony at a rate of 10% of divorces, less than half of the rate in the 60s. Are heterosexual relationships great in the US?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 10:45 AM
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Alimony is awarded in a small percent of divorces, so I doubt it’s “destroying heterosexual relationships.” Especially when fewer people get married than ever. It exists because the courts act as if married couples are teams, and that benefits and liabilities generally belong to the team. The same way the whole football team wins the Super Bowl, not just the players who scored. There are so many ways to communicate that you don’t want to play as a team: Don’t get married! Get a pre-nup! Get a po…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:50 AM
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Why do you keep saying “you?” You’re telling a child free person who said they’d never have kids what they don’t deserve... for having kids? You’re not making any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:28 PM
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I don’t know why you say “yours.” I’m not married and would insist on a prenup if I did. But I’m not open to providing a disproportionate amount of unpaid labor for the household, or willing to take the risk of having children (physical, financial, etc). I don’t expect that of any partner either. Anyone who does, needs to understand that those are huge sacrifices and risks that need to be shared, not unfairly dumped on one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 10:09 PM
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No women in my social circle have, or would, take that deal. None of my female friends have sacrificed heir career trajectory to stay home with kids or “do chores” without being marred, and knowing that marriage ensured their access to financial security in the case of a breakup. To think of it a different way, if my parents called me tomorrow, and said, “hey, why don’t you quit your job and give up your professional network to live at home and do the dishes for five years, rent free?” I would t…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 08:48 PM
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IF this were true, it would probably be because it’s less comfortable to be penetrated by something large over and over again. As an occasional thing, it’s fine. But not several times a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 07:01 PM
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Yes, in some marriages, there’s an incentive to stay. But no, that doesn’t prove what you’re claiming here. Let’s say it’s raining outside. I have an incentive to stay inside, to stay dry. Now it stops raining. Do I have an incentive to leave the house... to be dry? Of course not. I can stay in the house and be just as dry.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 03:30 PM
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She gets access to the money either way. The money isn’t the incentive. A better life without him around is the incentive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 04:12 AM
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Then the money isn’t the incentive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:25 AM
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Why would that incentivize her to get a divorce? She’s have access to those assets married too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:17 AM
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Even if she took time off from work that set her back in her career trajectory? She’s never going to make as much money.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:13 AM
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His cars and boat? Her art and jewelry collection? Assets gained before the marriage are rarely considered marital property. I would insist on a prenup, but most people who makes posts like this seem confused about what they are for?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:12 AM
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I’m not? I want to know how you want sex assault victims to be treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:25 AM
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Yep, every woman is supposed to avoid risk just the right amount, in just the right ways. Enough to keep the bad guys in line, but never so much that it prevents any “good guy” from getting his dick wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:22 AM
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How do you want to “treat” victims of sexual assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:11 AM
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Could you word this in a different way? I don’t know what you mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 01:00 AM
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And I still don’t think that has much to do with “accountability.” If someone drives a motorcycle, it’s higher risk than a car. I don’t think they need to be held “accountable” if some asshole runs them over.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:59 AM
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Are you saying that you don’t believe women make any choices to avoid sexual assault?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/25 12:36 AM
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And plenty of people get their houses robbed of heirloom jewelry without ever even wearing it outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:44 PM
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The comment I relied to said: imperative to reduce the risks they face when possible Avoiding men that are obviously dangerous does not accomplish that, because it’s still easily possible to reduce risk even further. If you want to move the goalpost, it’s a different conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:38 PM
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I’d call it nonexistent. The most effective thing I could do to reduce my risk of being physically harmed by another person is to never date men again. That is the biggest risk of violence in any woman’s life. You are free to think that women have the imperative to avoid men whenever possible reduce their risk, and you can call it whatever word you like.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 11:09 PM
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The post is the context. If you think jewelry is off-topic, we can focus on whether “flaunting” makes women accountable for men touching them without consent.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:48 PM
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Sure, like, “she was flaunting her stuff in that dress, what did she expect, she was asking for it.”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:28 PM
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Oh ok, buying jewelry is fine, it’s wearing jewelry that makes me accountable for other people robbing me. Cool, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:25 PM
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There’s no end to that logic. I bought a piece of jewelry. I created an incentive for someone to rob me. I’m accountable for being robbed. There is no reasonable life that does not generate incentive for others to harm us.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 10:18 PM
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Personally, I think “accountability” is a completely inappropriate word to use regarding someone who has been harmed by another person. When I harm others, I am accountable for what I have done! They are not accountable for me harming them! Are there strategies to reduce risk? Of course! But every person has to decide where to draw the line. Many many women have stopped dating completely, because they are not willing to take the risk. That doesn’t make women who date accountable for someone else…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 09:35 PM
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So you agree with OP about the “slow dwindling of the world population.“
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:56 PM
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So you don’t have enough intimation to know that the population of the world, or parts of the world, will not decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:36 PM
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The parts of the the world without declining birth rates are... Uzbekistan?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:08 PM
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What parts of the world don’t have declining birth rates?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:35 PM
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That’s certainly what is happening. I do think that people will form some alternative family structures (buying homes with close friends, etc) I also think there will be some political action to either force things to revert to the past structure, or compensate people for choosing to have kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 07:25 PM
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So the single women and single men you know shame single men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:23 PM
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The single people you know shame single people?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 06:00 PM
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BE SINGLE
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:23 PM
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This isn’t The Lobster. You don’t have to be in any romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:56 PM
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Those aren’t the only options...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:54 PM
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Did your partners immediately cheat on you with/leave you for any and every man who was better looking than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:44 PM
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Have you ever been in a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 04:07 PM
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Why can’t men do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 05:12 AM
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Why on the world would you think the Boy Scouts allowed girls because of social pressure? They were completely broke and needed the money.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 03:36 AM
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This post certainly didn’t convince me that people have “the wrong idea” about RedPill, much less why.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 01:50 AM
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So it’s a disingenuous debate post, where aren’t interested in different viewpoints, but just wanted to call people out.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 11:41 PM
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So you want people to debate about the quality of comments on the subreddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 11:26 PM
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But exactly what is your position? Dating in social circles is no better than online dating... for any man? Ever? In any place? And/or Dating in social circles is not as simple as... what? As simple as online dating? As simple as women describe it... which is how?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 11:23 PM
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Better how? For whom? I’ve gone on dates with men from my social circle that I never would have dated if I met them online. I’ve gone on dates with men from dating apps that I never would have dated if I met in my social circle.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:53 PM
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And most single women aren’t on dating apps. There’s no venue that gives you access to a complete and infinite pool of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:41 PM
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So you want us to debate whether a subset of women is a subset of women? I’m still not getting it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:33 PM
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You made the post for men? Why didn’t you say that? You said it’s a response to women. If most women want husbands, does it prove they can’t meet their social needs without them? Just like men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:08 PM
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What makes you qualified to speak for most men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:00 PM
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Let’s go back a minute: Are women able to quell loneliness outside of relationships? Yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:57 PM
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Women have stronger social ties, more social opportunities, have deeper relationships with their girlfriends How do they have these in spite of the societal conditions outlined in the post? If women can overcome those issues, why can’t men?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:35 PM
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Why is this specific to men? Are women able to quell loneliness outside of relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:30 PM
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You do not know if she wants to have sex with you on the first date. She may have wanted to have sex with you more than anyone else on the planet, but was practically hemorrhaging blood from the first day of her period. “Want” is in someone else’s brain, and you aren’t a mind reader. You only know whether she did something or not. You do not know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:04 PM
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Personally, I think the “made you wait,” language is completely ridiculous. There are women who wait to have sex, but that isn’t “making YOU wait,” any more than any other personal decision is making someone else wait. Like, if you don’t want to marry anyone you haven’t lived with, you aren’t “making Beth wait” for a proposal. You are waiting until you are ready. There are women who would have sex, but don’t invite you up after the date because they think their cat probably threw up on the bed a…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:56 PM
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I feel like I see a post or comment every day saying some version of, “if she made you wait one date longer for sex that anyone else she’s ever dated, shes not really into you and is just looking for a beta provider,” or something to that effect. Like she might not just have diarrhea or something...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:47 PM
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Filters are fine, as long as you treat them as strategies based on guesses, instead of knowledge about another person. I think it’s fine when women filter men for not asking her out in a specific way, not picking up the check on the first date, not offering to walk her to her car, not sending a specific kind of message after the date... None of those are knowledge about another person. They are just decisions based on presumed probabilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:40 PM
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What does this have to do with my comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:33 PM
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It doesn’t sound like you want a debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:19 PM
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You want people to debate whether something is “fun for you?”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:12 PM
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Does that add up to a thousand?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:05 PM
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One thing that Blue Pill gets right is understanding that women’s choices to have sex or not have sex with someone are influenced by a thousand factors other than his physical appearance. Red Pill seems to take every behavior as a referendum on raw attraction, as if women don’t make decisions based on whether they’re having period cramps and a myriad of other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 06:48 PM
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I understand that it’s an unfounded assumption that you have made.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:32 PM
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At no point does OP compare average women to average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 07:50 AM
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What research?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 06:37 AM
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Forced how?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 05:51 AM
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Sorry, is kids something you think men should put on their profile? Or is it something they can leave off they think they’re unimportant?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:22 AM
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Emily King... the musician? What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:17 AM
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It sounds like this is just in your imagination.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:14 AM
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Because it’s not relevant. You criticized women for not matching with men they don’t want to date. YOU don’t match with men you don’t want to date. Why the double-standard?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:13 AM
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I know a number of men in men-only support groups... I’ve never heard of any issues. Where have they been shut down? By who?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:11 AM
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Why does it make sense for you not to match with men you don’t want to date, but it’s sociopathic for women to do the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:06 AM
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I’ve never had that idea. But it’s an interesting take that men who don’t tell women about their kids until the first (or third) date just consider their kids unimportant.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:02 AM
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It IS how most people operate. The first thing that people do when they join online dating is pick filters for who they want to see. You pick gender(s). You pick a geographic limit. You pick an age range. You pick a gender, even though you may date someone who later decides they identify as a different gender! You pick a geography, even though they may move to another country! The presumption is that you don’t want to have random chats and dinners with people you definitely don’t want to date or…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:16 AM
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Sorry, you’re saying it would be a relic even if Black people were currently barred from student loans and federal jobs for not currently participating? Many states don’t allow the non-registered to attend public universities. You’d say, “it’s just a relic?”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:05 AM
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Do you match with men on dating sites? Do you go on dates with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:59 PM
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I’m a feminist woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:42 PM
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Yes, congrats, your goal of getting attention was achieved.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:11 PM
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Why did you respond to my comments if you’re unable or unwilling to answer the basic question I keep asking you? No one forced you. I genuinely thought your continued responses meant that you wanted to have a good faith dialogue, but were unable to understand the question. But just more pointless word vomit on your part, I guess?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:07 PM
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...isn’t they what these guys are doing? They’re hiding everything about who they are, so they have a chance to convince some lady they don’t even know to spend time with them and give them a chance to entertain her enough to pick him? Every time I see a guy without any potential dealbreakers on his profile, I assume that he’s so desperate for attention that he’s willing to waste time with any women who is willing. It definitely doesn’t communicate “self-respect” to me...
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:04 PM
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WHAT DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO DEBATE HERE? Why did you make this post? What opposing perspectives and arguments would be relevant?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:53 PM
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What’s the thinking here? A child-free woman should go on dates with men who want kids... because she might change her mind about having kids if he’s really funny or something? A woman looking for a partner who will go to church with her should go on dates with atheists because...?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:41 PM
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Sure, there’s no reason to talk about past hookups in the vast majority of situations... Do you expect someone to comment and say, “Yes they do! Women talk about their past hookups all the time everywhere!”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:21 PM
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Almost all men on dating sites are open to short term interactions, and have very few dealbreakers related to sex. They don’t want to include any information that would discourage a woman from having casual sex with them. Not saying it’s a good strategy. But I think that’s the strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:16 PM
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What do you want people to debate? Some people would be surprised at how much some women date? Women don’t talk about their short term dating history much? Where? Why would they?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:11 PM
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Did you not succeed at your original purpose for a semester?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:47 PM
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How was she persistent? They told her she could join the first time she asked.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:36 PM
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as soon as she inserted herself ...by politely asking to join in a public space? the group never had a true chance to fulfill its original purpose Which was what?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:35 PM
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Women generally don’t have kids with men who think taking care of kids is “women’s work.” Men no longer think taking care of their kids is “women’s work.” Feminism has also resulted in more women working outside the home more, making it impractical or impossible for women to do all the childcare. Feminism has also resulted in more no-fault divorce and men having more custody of kids (because of changing views about gender roles).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:07 PM
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...how did a movement that insisted women shouldn’t be only relegated to domestic duties result in both genders participating more equally in professional and domestic spheres?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:58 PM
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In 1982, 43% of US fathers had never changed a diaper, not even once. Now it’s 3%. Feminism expanded men’s time and interactions with their children.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:41 PM
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Could you give some specific examples? I always hear reference to this. But the only examples I hear about were absolutely not “shut down” (like the boy-scouts), or public accommodations that obviously can’t be sexist or racist by law.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:33 PM
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Because they were broke and needed the revenue. No one forced them to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:30 PM
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I am not asking for anything specific, but I urge everyone to have sympathy for those who suffer. Genuine question: Why? What purpose does pity serve? Why are you asking people to have it?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:22 PM
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A lot of men do not want to be the only source of financial security for their family. A lot of men want to be involved in raising their children in ways that used to be only in the woman’s sphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:14 PM
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IF this were true, the implication is that NO men want relationships unless they are completely effortless, AND/OR are based in a society where all women are controlled. IF I thought this were true... of course women would be bummed out about it. But I can’t imagine any woman who would become more interested in giving up personal freedom to date men like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:12 PM
1

There’s other suits as well. Those are the only mentioned. To clarify, you were unable to mention any suits at all, and continue to be unable to mention any suits other than the ones I brought up.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:39 PM
2

Then why are you claiming the needed information can be subpoenaed??
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:27 PM
3

You can subpoena the needed information What information can you subpoena to prove you didn’t take it up the ass?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:19 PM
0

So... no one. Stewart Lucas Murray’s cases are being dismissed. Nikko D’Ambrosio is in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:08 PM
1

Who is facing multimillion dollar litigation, specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:56 PM
5

Are they? Give me an example of a case where someone was criminally convicted.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:27 PM
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The site doesn’t allow that. The law does. And there’s almost no chance of a winning a defamation or libel case, because it’s almost impossible to prove that you didn’t have sex on the second date or didn’t have anal sex. So the site would almost certainly be full of false information from guys trying to make money, with almost no chance of negative consequences for lying. The “Are we dating the same guy” Facebook pages are full of questionable content, and no one is even being paid. I’ve never …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:19 PM
2

So the site provides zero disincentive to providing false information. The worst the site does is ban future participation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 10:10 PM
3

Can you read the ModBot post?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:49 PM
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In your mind, what’s the process for finding out false info? A woman realizes someone posted false info about her. Can she see his full name? His DL number? Or she reports it to the site... and the site uses his information to do what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 09:48 PM
7

WHY not equal? You told us that 50/50 is the solution to different poverty rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:13 PM
5

But you raised the second issue regarding women over 75. So for women under 34, or maybe even under 75, they should be equal, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:07 PM
6

But your position is that feminism is the cause of higher poverty of women, because of custody, yes? The solution is simple: Default joined custody. If 50/50 default doesn’t fix the poverty imbalance, what is it the solution to?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:00 PM
6

Why didn’t the bills pass?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:37 PM
9

The solution is simple: Default joined custody. You mean 50/50? So, you should be able to show that states with default 50/50 custody have equal rates of poverty?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 03:30 PM
16

So, the sex workers fake enthusiasm for money. But the women dating you to exploit you for money... you’re not worried about them faking enthusiasm...
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:20 AM
13

The women who don’t love you, but want to keep dating you... why do they want to do that?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:16 AM
14

Plenty of women fake it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:13 AM
29

Sounds like it might be more efficient to just stick with the paid provider?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:11 AM
16

Define soulmate.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 04:05 AM
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You prefer “not feeling confident?”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:04 PM
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And I find your interpretation of personal “growth” as willing to have casual sex with men they aren’t attracted to self-serving, manipulative, and gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:02 PM
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So the reason men shame promiscuous women is their insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:57 PM
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You don’t see the difference between wants and behavior? Wishing for something is a want. Trying to get people to do something they don’t want to is not. But if men can be seen as cool for acting in a way that women are quite literally incapable of, are women really okay with that? Hoping that women fuck more men to avoid feeling incapable or uncool is gross. it’s normal to vouch for attitudes you think are healthy So now women should have pity sex for the their health... Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:43 PM
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1- You are not just saying “I wish,” you’re saying “how do we get them to.” You want to manipulate people. 2- When you ask men if they want to be better lovers, they don’t usually respond “ew.” 3- Massive difference between improving the sex between two people who want to have sex with each other, and convincing women to have sex with men they do not want to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 04:09 PM
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But that means that what OP is asking for is a big sacrifice for the women involved. “Help men feel more confident in bed, but give up any chance of a loving relationship.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:54 PM
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Not the person you’re replying to... but it’s just a selfish proposal. It’s like saying, “It would be cool if more men gave me $100 bills. How do I make this more common?” You want women to be more sexually available to men for the benefit of men. You’re even speculating how women could be emotionally manipulated into doing it, if they felt “less capable,” they might be motivated to have sex with men they don’t actually want to have sex with to ease their insecurity... It’s pretty creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:41 PM
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But your fundamental question seems to be, “why doesn’t everyone want the same kinds of sex?” There are plenty of gay guys who would love to deflower other gay guys. Maybe they’re seen as “cool” for doing too! They could look at you, and say, “Why aren’t you capable of this? Why are you repulsed by helping gay guys lose their virginity?”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 01:04 PM
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Stuff like this? Let’s say he is a straight man, but he feels bad for gay guys who came from small conservative towns who didn’t have the chance to get sexual experience. He has a reputation for being patient and letting guys fuck him in the ass. Does being a guy mean you don’t see that as pity sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:39 PM
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The choice you’re talking about is voting? Why wouldn’t it be candidate vs. candidate? Or policies vs. policies?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:26 PM
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Why is this being framed as pity sex? You think that guy had sex with those women out of pity? Why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:23 PM
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Are you using “involve” to mean impacted by? Yes, obviously women often have agency over their body in the form of deciding whether to have medical procedures, such as abortions. Yes, men are often impacted by these decisions. That’s how most things work? If my partner decides to get a vasectomy, I’m impacted by that choice. If my neighbor paints their house bright orange, I’m impacted by that choice. People have agency over certain things. Other people are impacted by their decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 10:09 PM
1

Which obvious outcome? Some pregnancies end in miscarriage. Some pregnancies end in abortion. Some pregnancies end in adoption. Some pregnancies end in single parenthood. Some pregnancies end in shared parenthood.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:50 PM
2

I should hope it’s already obvious that pregnancy is not equitable?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 09:42 PM
1

Can’t name any of the groups, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:37 PM
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...so what? It’s always been easy to hate other people when you are not getting everything that you want or think you deserve.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:34 PM
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Measure of what? As opposed to what?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:30 PM
1

Quote where I said you said men should ask zero questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:14 PM
4

“a running jokes that men JUST talk about themselves” “and don’t ask ANY questions.” Your response: “That’s because men have real social skills.” I’m not the one lying about what that refers to.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:53 PM
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So... Men shouldn’t be expected to ask questions, because they aren’t how you get to know someone. But women need to answer questions better, because that’s how you get to know someone... Bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:31 PM
1

Thanks!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:26 PM
6

The CDC and every other medical organization disagrees with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:18 PM
6

Are we having the same conversation? OP: Why do RP guys on this sub refer to women seeking abortion as “avoiding responsibility” and “not facing the ramifications” of their actions. You: Because they think abortion is murder. Me: There is no reason why someone who thinks abortion is murder would say those things. You: ...? We’re discussing why these men say these things. Why do you believe that thinking abortion is murder would lead to saying these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:12 PM
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The father shouldn’t have to financially support their child getting fed or having a safe place to live, just because it hasn’t been born yet? How is that a consistent position?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:00 PM
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How would child support start at implantation when we couldn’t know who the father is? Because prenatal paternity tests have become accurate and accessible. Even if it weren’t, retroactive/back child support is commonly awarded. The question is whether it should only start at birth.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:53 PM
2

Is someone just using condoms using birth control?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:49 PM
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I really don’t buy this. Why would someone who thinks abortion is murder talk about “avoiding responsibility” at all. If someone murders someone they owe money to, no one says, “I can’t believe they are avoiding accountability for borrowing money!” We tend to focus on the murder bit... People who value the life of the fetus say- give it up for adoption! They don’t say “face the ramifications of unprotected sex!!”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 02:47 PM
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Because they are not connected... If an 18 year old about to start college is murdered, everyone will decry that a young person just starting college was killed! But if that person had lived and chosen to drop out of college, they would not have been committing murder by dropping out of college... You can think something matters even if the lack of that thing is not murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:50 PM
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Are you not asking why pregnancy is relevant or valuable, if abortion is not murder? I don’t understand why those two are connected.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:43 PM
1

Why would “not murder” mean “irrelevant?”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:39 PM
6

I’m sure there’s overlap between red pill commenters and people whose pee smells weird after they eat asparagus. But the post isn’t about that either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:34 PM
3

Abortion “rights” just mean the government isn’t outlawing a safe medical procedure. Of course it has nothing to do with anyone not having the procedure?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:14 PM
5

The post is about red pill commenters, not pro-lifers...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:11 PM
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This strikes me as such a bizarre position if you believe abortion is killing a child. If someone murders someone they owe money to, no one says, “I can’t believe they are avoiding accountability for borrowing money!” If you consider it murdering a child, why are you focusing on the motive...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:06 PM
1

Is child support “social parenthood?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:00 PM
2

Like which ones?? I have no idea what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:09 PM
3

Who is arguing against male birth control pills?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:03 PM
3

You’re insulting my country of origin and then guessing what it is? What the fuck?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:32 AM
5

?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:25 AM
4

Excuse me? What country are you telling me I was born in?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:24 AM
4

All of this would be true even if the government did not “put limits on things all the time.”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:20 AM
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And therefore...? I’m not getting your point. The government limits a lot of things... therefore they should limit other things even if there’s no good reason to?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:07 AM
1

How is someone “forced” to be a parent? If a kids exists that is 50% your DNA... you are a parent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:04 AM
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So fascinating that you can’t explain why you made this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:55 AM
4

Wow, it happens so often that your country had to make laws about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:25 AM
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Those are all reasonable questions. But they aren’t good reasons the government should decide whether you should be allowed to have a medical procedure.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:15 AM
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Do you have any idea what percent of women have had abortions??
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:13 AM
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If YOU claim that something is IMPOSSIBLE, YOU create a position that is proven false by even one single example ever in the history of time. “Impossible” is the extreme argument. Not the evidence that proves it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:06 AM
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Using someone for sex is impossible except when it happens! /s If it was consensual and safe it can’t be using someone for sex, except when it is! /s Thanks for a great discussion. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 06:03 AM
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Wow, it took you 20 minutes to go from: Did he lie about being single? Yes he used her for sex. to Using someone for sex is impossible. What is your goal here? What is the point of this post? You’re clearly uninterested in any other perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 05:43 AM
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But we’ve disproven your post. It’s certainly logical to say “I was used for sex” under some circumstances. You agree. It would be illogical to say it under other circumstances, but that’s true of anything that could be said. “I was robbed” is also said under logical and illogical circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:54 AM
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Again: If the woman has sex with him and finds out he lied to manipulate her, then says “he used me for sex,” is she wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:44 AM
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Think about, when you’re hanging out with one of your friends I think this is why so many men are awkward on dates- they want to talk to you the same way they talk to their bros they’ve known since middle school. But that’s not the way you get to know a new person. That dynamic depends on years of shared history and references. That’s something you build. You can’t talk “about something they have in common” until you’ve done the work to figure out what you have in common! You don’t need intervie…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:42 AM
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Let’s say the guy was dishonest about something. He lied about his job. He lied about being single. If the woman has sex with him and finds out, then says “he used me for sex,” is she wrong? Is lying to get money different than lying to get sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:28 AM
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I’m not sure what you mean by internet scam? Let’s say it’s a romance scam or pig butchering scam. The “victim” typically sends the money voluntarily. They don’t “steal your wallet” either. Is that using someone?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:13 AM
2

Is there anything a person can be used for? Can someone use someone for money?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 04:01 AM
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Given that you don’t seem very good at reading the words I write... I don’t have much confidence in your mind-reading abilities.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:18 AM
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Yeah, I guess that’s what is going on with OP. He’s not used to hearing criticism.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:11 AM
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I get it though, every woman that has ever had sex had zero other intentions than just fun. I don’t buy it for a second but okay. Every woman that has ever had sex? Is that what you intended your post to be about? It’s really poorly written then.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:09 AM
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I’m a straight woman. That’s why I mentioned having sex with men. I’m telling you that most of the men I’ve fucked I did not “use” or want to date, the only two options you seem to think exist. Just because your situationship doesn’t treat you like a piece of meat, does not mean she has any interest in being your girlfriend...
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:05 AM
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I rarely felt like, oh she’s just using me for my body for fun, just random d and flesh to her. You’re creating a false dichotomy here. I didn’t “use people for their body” OR want a relationship with most of the men I’ve had sex with. I want to be as friendly with the people I have sex with as I am with the people I go hiking with, see music with, go to brunch with... and I don’t want to be in a romantic relationship with almost any of those humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:58 AM
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And WHY do people normally talk to their friends about their relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 12:46 AM
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I’m genuinely curious! When I see a word I don’t know, I look it up or move on. It would never occur to me to jump in the conversation and tell other people about it. Where does that come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:25 PM
1

Which demonstrates female in-group bias HOW??
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 09:04 PM
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So I have “gaslit” the OP by: 1- Saying that a possible thing is possible 2- Responding to a DEBATE post with an alternate explanation What is it like to walk around the world and be this sensitive? To be so unable to handle being exposed to other ideas?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:57 PM
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Are you claiming that it is impossible that OP is the cause of many of his interpersonal conflicts, and that he has a reputation for it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:10 PM
5

Why are these the people you choose to vent to?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:02 PM
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How would female in-group bias explain this: I have experienced the same from men. If I bring up any issue I have with my husband, the default is for them to immediately side with him, and assume the worst from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:00 PM
1

As opposed to intersex presidents? What are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:39 PM
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It’s also possible that these women don’t trust your personal perspective on events. If they’ve observed you be on the “wrong” side of conflicts in the past, they may not think you have great judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:15 PM
1

What drives you to answer questions when you don’t know even understand the words in the question? Arrogance? A need for attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:01 PM
1

How would that be an example of an archetype? Are you talking about stereotypes?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 06:56 PM
4

Men can be attracted to you and not like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:29 PM
6

Wow, I would have missed out on the best romantic relationships with the most special people if I had used this approach. Glad I was more willing to give things a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 05:00 PM
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Whoa, why are you telling people to only go on dates with people who see them as a special prize? What’s wrong with going on dates with people to get to know them and find out if you think they are special?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 04:44 PM
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I thought we were talking about patterns in all media with evil archetypes, so it should be easy to identify examples that are commonly known. But it sounds like you are probably seeking out niche media with specific patterns. Like, “in every movie I watch, the female villain is a hot animal-hybrid!” OK bro.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 04:23 PM
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Where are you getting this from? Most mainstream media doesn’t have much supernatural content at all. When it does, I can’t think of many examples where women were the only supernatural villains. Can you name some examples from the last few years?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 04:06 PM
2

?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 03:58 PM
8

There is nothing surprising in the request that your partner sees you as special, otherwise why are you together at all? That’s exactly why it’s a bizarre request. If liking someone is WHY you are friends with someone, you don’t REQUEST that your friends like you. If desire is WHY people have sex, you don’t REQUEST that your sex partner desire you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 03:36 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 03:06 PM
27

Why are you feigning ignorance about why you don’t feel comfortable with men and maleness?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 02:34 AM
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...you’ve literally made posts about how your mother raised you to think of men as bad. This doesn’t seem very mysterious.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 02:31 AM
4

I don’t understand what you’re asking. Men make up ~49% of the population. Why would men getting a beer together or watching a massively popular sport that you also watch be a “subculture?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:54 AM
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I don’t understand your question.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:37 AM
5

Men and women go to movies about the same amount. How are women the “primary audience?”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:36 AM
10

How did you decide that his kidnapping represented rape? Instead of kidnapping?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:28 AM
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It seems like you’re saying... “To warn women about rapists, we have movies with rapists.” And the equivalent is... “To warn men about baby trapping, we need movies with... women whose singing voice confuses sailors.” How does that make any sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:16 AM
15

Their evil satanic reality?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:56 AM
11

What are the evil male archetypes?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:48 AM
1

Did they yell their sexual orientation at you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:06 PM
2

what is the maximum time frame I don’t think it’s a matter of time, but of intimacy and commitment. Don’t talk to me about marriage if you don’t trust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 10:58 PM
2

Nope
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 06:10 PM
8

Yeah, no idea why a major part of someone’s past/present/future would come up in a friendship. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:44 PM
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You don’t think normal friends discuss their love lives. And your friendships with women fail. What a weird coincidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:42 PM
3

You believe that sexual dissatisfaction is a reason to leave partners... But you don’t think partners that have been left are any more likely to be have been sexually dissatisfying...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:40 PM
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I’ve lost so many female friendships when I revealed I was straight Yeah, sounds like you were really close 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:36 PM
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Give us some examples of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 05:18 PM
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1- You often don’t know you need an abortion until you’re actively having a medical emergency. 2- Many people choose to have abortions because they do not have financial resources
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:33 PM
-1

Patriarchy =/= gender
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:32 PM
2

So, currently, most jurisdictions explicitly prioritize the wellbeing of the child when making custody decisions. But you’re advocating a shift from that, to prioritize... consequences for adults having sex out of wedlock? That’s more important than the health of the child?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:38 PM
2

So none of these babies can be breastfed?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:28 PM
2

So the second week? Or do you think that they should trade months, when the baby is breastfeeding? Or, she gets the first year, and he gets the second?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:11 PM
0

So yes, you should be taking a newborn away from its breastfeeding mother for equal parenting time?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:02 PM
0

So, you impregnate someone, and the day after the baby is born, you should be at the hospital picking it up for your custody time?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 01:53 PM
4

How do you get a receipt for the kids’ portion of rent? Utilities? Groceries? The payment for the minivan?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 01:49 PM
0

An exchange of payments meaning what?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 01:47 PM
0

I don’t know what that has to do with this post or my comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:35 AM
4

OK? That has nothing to do with the other 8 billion people on the planet...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:32 AM
8

I have male friends. My boyfriend has female friends. No one is uncomfortable. You being uncomfortable doesn’t mean that men and women are not friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:18 AM
-1

Great, so if two guys can be friends without hugging and complimenting each other’s clothes, men and women can too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:16 AM
6

I don’t understand what that has to do with the post. Most cheaters I know have cheated with coworkers. Saying, “men and women cannot be coworkers” is still obviously false. Some people cheating has no bearing either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 04:13 AM
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What does that have to do with my question? Would you say that any bros who don’t do these things aren’t real friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:54 AM
3

Which point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:48 AM
3

Usually because she knows that having kids will impact her earning potential.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:41 AM
5

You’re asking if people should be charged with crimes they commit? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:34 AM
6

I’ve been to so many weddings of couples who met on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:30 AM
5

If two men don’t do these things, do you insist that they cannot be close friends? one on one hangouts physical affection complimenting outfits
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:27 AM
4

Ha ha ha, there are so many women who only like men who offer to pay
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:25 AM
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Your argument seems to be, “because people assume everything from the opposite sex is sexual attention, people of the opposite sex cannot be friends.” But the first point is absolutely false. There are probably some people who make all of these assumptions, and THEY cannot have opposite sex friends. The rest of us are fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:22 AM
3

You think women are going out with guys they dislike for food?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:04 AM
2

Do you want a bridge to collapse so you can get attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:03 AM
6

Was a woman raped if she imagined being raped? What the fuck is your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 03:00 AM
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But he’s fantasizing about them being threatened.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:52 AM
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What is the hero saving them from if you aren’t fantasizing about them being in danger??
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:51 AM
4

women get nice dinners simply by tricking men What’s the trick?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:48 AM
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A lot of men fantasize about disasters and conflicts where they get to be the hero and save people. Does that mean they want their loved ones to be threatened?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:47 AM
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Remember when Obama was elected, and some people said it was proof that America was a post-racial society? That was weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 02:20 AM
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Not 1:1 in what sense? Again, I want to clearly reiterate that I have absolutely no idea what you are trying to communicate to me at all. Please spell out what you are responding to, and what you are trying to communicate to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 12:34 AM
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And therefore...? I have no idea what you’re trying to say in the context of this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 11:07 PM
14

I am sure your dad did not rape your mom and your grandpa did not rape your grandma Beyond fucked up for you to say this to anyone, much less a stranger.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 10:55 PM
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I have not seen any evidence for that ...on Nick at Nite. It’s not too late to delete this post.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 10:51 PM
3

The WNBA doesn’t allow any journalists in the locker room, male or female. Many male teams and leagues are the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 10:02 PM
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A symptom of what problem? Boy Scouts membership declined 50%. What problem was that a symptom of?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:50 PM
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The problem with the Boy Scouts is that boys stopped going before girls were admitted. Participation was down by 50%. Maybe boys do need the Boy Scouts, but girls are not why they lost it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:44 PM
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If asking you to substantiate your claim is acting in “bad faith,” I think you’re going to be disappointed in most forums. I would actually love to think that a lack of male spaces were the problem. But the men who say that are never able to support it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:40 PM
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The Boy Scouts is why I asked for an example. Everyone brings that up. Participation in the boy scouts declined by half BEFORE girls were allowed to join. They let girls in because they desperately needed members and their money. This example does not support your theory at all... The MLB one is a new one... You need your employer to provide a male-only bonding spaces at work to not be lonely?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:32 PM
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Could you provide a specific personal example of this? Like, “my dad was a member of the ___ chapter of the ___ organization and it became coed by force when ____.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:06 PM
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Yeah, spending time chatting with married women, picking out date locations for them, going on dates with them, paying for them, working to make the money to pay for dates with married women, meeting their husbands... talking about it all online. Sounds like a great use of OPs time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 06:46 PM
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We are all questioning you about what you claim to be YOUR actual personal experience, and you keep deflecting to talk about what women in general are “probably doing.”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:31 PM
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This is a blatant misrepresentation of what you stated. You did NOT say “probably 20%” of anything You said 20% of your actual dates are actually cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:21 PM
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I’m not asking if it has happened. You are telling this that this is a massive pattern in your life! You said you meet most taken women on dating sites and Instagram. How many partnered women did you meet on Instagram without any way to tell that they were partnered or married?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:15 PM
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I’ve met A person who has done almost everything. I’ve met A person who was a fury. But if someone told me that 20% of their first dates were with furries accidentally, I’d be asking questions.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:12 PM
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You’re meeting married women on Instagram with no pictures of their husband, no comments that look like they’re from their husband, and googling their name doesn’t show a husband?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:06 PM
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Why are you assuming that he never has any way to know? He says he meets a lot of these women on Instagram. It’s more likely to meet cheating women there (because they don’t have to put their face on a dating site and risk getting caught), AND there’s often evidence that they’re in a relationship (wedding photos, comments from a partner,etc) if you take the time to look.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:53 PM
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20% of my dates she was still living with her boyfriend, married, or cheating This has to say something about who you are asking out...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:23 PM
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What part of my life would make you rage...?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:51 PM
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Use to make jealous =/= Pursue to make jealous There are a lot of ways to use examples of other people to make someone feel bad about themselves that are not pursuing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:49 PM
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A lot of people can’t be with their “goal” type of person. But they can try to make an accessible person feel worse, in the hopes of getting the upper hand in their interactions. There are men who do this with women’s age, but also body weight, kids, anything that could make someone feel less than. Anything to try to make a woman feel like she couldn’t find someone else who would treat her better.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:44 PM
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Things got so much easier for me after I stopped being a target. It’s easier to move around the world without being interrupted and bothered. Men rarely get weird attachments to me based on nothing. I don’t get inappropriate emails after completely normal professional interactions. Online dating is less overwhelming and the matches are easier to sort through. When I first used a dating site in my 20s, I was flooded with messages before I even put a picture up. Now it’s easy for me to find guys t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:30 PM
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And therefore...? Yes, getting hurt by a person and getting hurt by nature are not “the same.” Drowning and being burned alive are also not “the same.” It still wouldn’t make any sense to be OK risking one but not the other...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:18 PM
2

Are you also an immature fuckboy at the club?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 07:08 AM
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Men’s drinks get spiked too, and not just at clubs. Some studies suggest 20% of victims are men. It’s happened at other bars, sometimes with the same motivation to sexually assault someone, but also to rob someone or just mess with them. So do you never order drinks out?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:43 AM
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You’d never put yourself in what situation, specifically? I know you’re talking about clubs here, but the logic should still make sense. “I’d never put myself in a situation where my physical safety is at risk.” You probably don’t mean that, right? You’d never be able to do anything. So what is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:32 AM
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People need to keep an eye on each other for so many activities... Is it weird to go swimming, or skiing, or rock climbing?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:16 AM
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Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:09 AM
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Most women seemingly enjoy clubbing as a fun activity with their friends Women have male friends too, yes?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:34 AM
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I thought all of these were examples of the same phenomenon. Women end up hating the men they create. We’re all trying to figure out how your aunt is an example of this. the hatred comes when women change their men But it sounds like you agree that your aunt did not change you...
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:03 AM
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So when you talk about the guy who goes to the gym... Are you saying she hates the fit guy, because that’s an expectation she created in her mind that later wasn’t met? Or are you saying she hates the guy who is a “pud of flesh?”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:53 AM
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Does she hate the version of you she “created in her mind?” Or does she hate the actual you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:43 AM
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What situation?? Did your aunt “create” you? Turn you into a different kind of man? I genuinely don’t understand how the anecdote is relevant to your post at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:58 AM
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My own aunt and I had this situation How does this relate at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:25 AM
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It’s so funny, because guys say this all the time. Think about all the men who would write down “not overweight” on their list.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:50 PM
2

That’s sounds like a really unhealthy reason to be in a relationship with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:19 AM
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How does a paternity test prove that someone was faithful?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:23 AM
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Half of the posts here are rants against women who “settle” for “betas” that they didn’t want to fuck on a first date. The other half are rants against women who don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:52 AM
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Maybe. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:42 AM
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Who says they can’t?? I’m just saying that lot of women only want to have kids under very specific circumstances. You aren’t obligated to provide those circumstances! And she isn’t obligated to have your baby!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 12:41 AM
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Most women just don’t want to go through the risk of having a kid with someone who doesn’t trust them. It’s a huge leap of faith on her side.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 02:30 PM
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Not sure what that has to do with my point, that it’s completely ridiculous to identify any particular dealbreaker as the ONLY thing people consider when picking a partner. Even when people join a dating site, they pick a geographic limit before they even see anyone’s photo! Your same argument could apply, making geography the “only” thing people consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:47 PM
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In what way is personality more important What are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:37 PM
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That makes absolutely no sense. You could say that about a million factors. I’d never date anyone who was 30 years older than me. Therefore, age is the ONLY metric I use to pick a partner? I’d never date anyone in prison. Therefore, incarceration is the ONLY metric I use to pick a partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:24 PM
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When more women dated and got married more, divorce rates were the highest in recorded history. Why assume single older women are going to be more unhappy?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 09:27 PM
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Fix what?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:49 PM
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You said “we” what?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:28 PM
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I’m implying that you said low birth rates are a problem that “needs” to be “fixed” by “women.” Because that is specifically what you said.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:21 PM
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Birth rates are super low. How do we fix this? Women need to become more active... Give me a break.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:10 PM
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You need to pick a position. “It’s up to women” “Women need to” “Women should” “Improves her chances” These are different positions. Decide whether you are telling women what they are obligated to do to solve society’s problems OR whether you’re giving women individual women dating advice. Because those aren’t the same debates.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 07:05 PM
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it feels inappropriate to have the same old financial split by default Why does that feel inappropriate? Considering that the default is not required, and that prenups are an option?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 06:42 PM
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jury found all 6 “victims” to be baseless. What finding are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:25 PM
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A delusion is a false belief, that is easily proven false. You cannot reference a single false belief that you think women with high standards actually hold! Not a single one of these is a delusion these women hold: the delusion is that the person you might want might not exist Nope you’ll never meet him Nope he won’t commit to you Nope Thats the delusion - that you have very high standards Nope refuse to lower them Nope or settle with someone Nope Let’s think about people who play the lottery: …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:29 PM
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Something can’t be bad if it took effort to do? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 05:10 AM
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Certainty? Promiscuity is not required for paternity uncertainty.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 04:24 AM
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But a guy with syphilis-brain is still high value?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:10 AM
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Why does it matter for the woman if she’s a slut, if it has nothing to do with value? Why do a woman’s questionable choices matter, if they have nothing to do with value?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 02:01 AM
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Do you also know that he is a slut? Do you also know that he makes questionable choices? Why or why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 01:54 AM
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But he wasn’t committed to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:56 PM
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“If you are truly committed it’s done” Sorry, what do you mean? What kind of commitment did you make to the person you dated for the least amount of time?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:32 PM
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So if you date someone for one month, you think you have the same bond with them as a spouse and that the breakup will be equivalent to a divorce?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:23 PM
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The premise here is that all men are selfish at heart, but many men think about their partners needs because of competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:29 PM
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It seems like you are equating: Exposing complete strangers to my sexual thoughts with Have standards and preferences for people who have chosen to interact with me This is deeply fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:19 PM
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But HOW are they delusional if the person is willing to be single? If I “say, I’ve decided to be stay single, but if Pedro Pascal asked me out, I would go,” am delusional? What is the delusion? What is the erroneous belief I’m holding?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:12 PM
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Whoa, you’re saying likes and matches aren’t enough to have an easy dating life? Other things matter, like whether you’re attracted to them? It’s almost like that’s the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:07 PM
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I didn’t make an analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:56 PM
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So the disconnect is that people have a new definition of “delusional?”
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:46 PM
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Meaning?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:39 PM
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Make men responsible? By what mechanism?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:11 PM
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WHAT IS THE DELUSION? What erroneous belief do these women hold?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:08 PM
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But the premise we’re discussing is: standards aren’t delusional if you’re willing to remain single You’re response seems to be: *You’re delusional because you might be single with those standards.” How is that is a delusion?!? That is the literal plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:56 AM
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Too high standards for what. If I say, “I’ll only go to the movie theater if there’s a Christopher Nolan movie playing, otherwise I’d rather watch tv home alone,” am I delusional? Are my standards too high because I don’t go to the movie theater “enough?” Who decides what enough is? Dating is completely optional. No one has to date AT ALL. So why is going one one date a year not enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:22 AM
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What is your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:01 AM
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In this analogy, getting rapped is equivalent to... what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:41 AM
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How “must women be held accountable“ for having autonomy? For not dating anyone they don’t want to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:39 AM
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You’re just going to think of them, but not tell anyone... that’s a choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:18 AM
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I’m often hearing complaints from people who were actively harmed, and people who were not actively harmed. Women will tell me stories about the things done to them- someone followed them home, someone lied, someone took the condom off during sex, etc. Men primarily complain about... nothing. What did she do to you? Nothing! That’s the common complaint. She didn’t swipe right, didn’t write back, didn’t agree to go on a date, etc. Those are never going to get the same levels of sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:15 AM
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Wow, I assumed he was an in-law or something. Someone you are stuck with. But you and all your friends are just choosing to spend time with this guy, spend time looking at his Facebook page, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:06 AM
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So, you would say that all men want to behave that way, but only some men are allowed to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:20 PM
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Why do you think they treated women that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:13 PM
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Why would they have to marry someone??
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:54 PM
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Any man can get a lot of matches. Go on Grindr. Matches =/= easy dating
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:52 PM
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Title says absolutely nothing. No one knows what you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:49 PM
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Tell us who did something wrong in this scenario. This woman’s family should not have shared their story and her ransom photos with organizations and news outlets that could help? Organizations/news outlets should not have written about her story? Someone should not have posted her photo and story on Reddit? People on Reddit should not have commented a post about her with concern for her?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 07:23 PM
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he wanted to try average people before sex workers I’d do him the favor of telling him that he doesn’t have time to waste.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:10 PM
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Theft =/= violence
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:53 PM
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trying to make it harder for men to file for defamation claims What are you referring to?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:56 PM
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hinted towards Johnny Depp Yes, that’s why I’m saying that your statement was false. That’s not an accusation against someone. Again, we don’t disagree about the facts of the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:36 PM
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We’re not disagreeing about whether she was found liable for defamation. We’re disagreeing about YOUR statement that she accused him of abuse. I don’t have any reason to think that occurred. Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:24 PM
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I thought she didn’t even use his name? How is that an accusation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:12 PM
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What was Amber Heard’s false accusation against Johnny Depp?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:09 PM
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Perhaps your friends are writing their own vows, and being honest about settling, getting married for cake, and their lack of commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:18 PM
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The premise here is that things did not “go bad.” Both people got what they signed up for. And my argument is that someone who dishonestly makes a lifetime vow to another person because they wanted a cake and a tax break is doing something morally wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:06 PM
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Then why did she get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 01:00 PM
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I disagree that a divorce is just a breakup.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:59 PM
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But telling a 20 yo woman to settle for the nice guy instead of exploring is just silly Extremely weird that you are lumping boyfriends and husbands together in this post. I don’t think anyone should marry anyone they forced themselves to be attracted to... But people who make that choice need to take accountability for the harm they are doing to the person they chose to use and then abandon.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:09 PM
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“and he wanted to try average people before sex workers.” I’d help him by giving him the advice that now isn’t the time to try to save a few bucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 12:01 PM
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You’re self-selecting for women who have sex with men they barely know...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 06:43 AM
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In what capacity are you interacting with him?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 04:36 AM
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You: “It’s only men that are volunteering to do the heavy work” ONLY Your position is demolished by even a single example.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 11:50 PM
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You think relationships where only one person is happy are the ones that last?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 09:48 PM
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Glad you brought up having a baby. Let’s say the man is the “leader.” He wants to have a baby. She didn’t want to have a baby. He decides they will have a baby. How does that work? How many people end up happy in that scenario?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 09:47 PM
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Talk to your therapist about how you entered a conversation about 1) women being raped, and 2) men being falsely of crimes that can result in decades of incarceration... ...and how your first instinct was to make the conversation about yourself because a girl in high school didn’t like you staring at her.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:17 PM
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Emotionally supporting a man = not being emotionally supported by my partner because he can’t handle me having emotions. That would be a hard pass from me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:14 PM
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I’m not asking about reality. I’m asking about the reality that OP believes in.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 04:13 PM
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What a creepy thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 03:35 PM
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You’re telling women their only choices are to be with men who don’t love them or men who will abandon them/self-destruct. Why would women be interested in either?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 03:33 PM
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Sure, I bet deadbeat dads abandon their kids because they love them tooo much to handle their babies crying. The only men who can parent their kids are men who don’t love them and think they’re replaceable. Due to their abundance mindset, obviously. /s
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 03:24 PM
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Would you trade places with someone in prison because they were wrongly convicted of a crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 03:21 PM
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How is being insulted the same as facing decades in prison because of a crime you didn’t commit?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:22 AM
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What in the world do you think rape means??
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 06:21 AM
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Aren’t you saying that abortion in the case of rape IS “ethical murder?”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:38 PM
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Men should have the right to opt out of parenthood by contract BEFORE SEX. Provide your sex partner with a waiver that you will not be supporting any subsequent children, and get her signature. Men don’t need the ability to make a decision after pregnancy occurs, because their body is not being impacted.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 08:33 PM
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Haven’t we had the internet long enough to realize that the “best” relationships on social media are often the worst relationships in real life? And your wife’s ex contacting you to tell you about their sex life... no reason to question the veracity of those claims! 🤪
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:49 PM
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If I gave my last boyfriend expensive gifts every week, I would have ruined my finances. Gifts are “positive,” but my choices still would have been a mistake that I should learn from.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:23 PM
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Sometimes someone did more for someone else because they were more into them. Sometimes someone did more for someone else because of insecurity/co-dependence. Sometimes they just realized they couldn’t sustain those efforts, and it ruined their past relationships. I expect that people to change over time. I would find it much stranger to learn that someone treated every partner exactly the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:20 PM
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Why would someone behave the same way in every relationship? Wouldn’t that just repeat the same mistakes of failed relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:09 PM
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I think this is an under appreciated reason that women prefer dating men who have options. People often think that men with few options will be really appreciative of having a partner, and treat them well. In my experience, men with few options are much more likely to pressure women into doing things they don’t want to do. They are more likely to try to manipulate the woman who dates them, because finding someone else isn’t an easy alternative. It makes for really miserable relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:07 PM
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Concessions? What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 07:02 PM
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Meaning what? Doing sex acts you don’t like? Having more sex than you want to? Why are these things better?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:48 PM
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Didn’t appreciate it? What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 06:45 PM
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“Domestic violence includes violent victimizations committed by current or former intimate partners or family members.” That shows absolutely nothing about lesbian relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/24 05:51 AM
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Too often, posts here make me think, “damn, this guy has clearly never talked to an actual woman in his life!” But this one make me think, “damn, he’s never had a dog either!”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 06:31 PM
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You can have fun without respect... except when you can’t. Respect isn’t important... except when it is. You are not saying anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 05:39 PM
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But you are confirming that you can’t have fun without respect, which is the exact opposite of your post. Your post: if the dog bites you, build your relationship on fun instead Your comments: obviously you can’t have fun with a dog that bites you ???
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 05:15 PM
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Did you forget your position? You are the person who thinks traveling with disrespectful people is fun. I’m asking you how.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:58 PM
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There’s no argument here? There’s nothing to suggest that this strategy is better than the alternative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:36 PM
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How can you travel with someone who doesn’t have respect or empathy for you? If you’re asleep, and they feel like turning the lights and the tv on, they will. If they feel like packing up and leaving you with the hotel bill, they will. It’s hard to even make plans to go to a restaurant with someone who doesn’t respect your time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/24 04:35 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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