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| 1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?If by “deflection” you mean pointing out the obvious distinction you conveniently overlooked, then sure. Either way, take care. | /r/MensRights | 28/03/25 11:08 PM |
| 1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?Thanks for the effort, but let’s stay accurate. Men4Choice isn’t an MRA organization, it’s a progressive pro-choice group that collaborates directly with feminist and reproductive rights advocates. It doesn’t represent the MRA movement, which, historically, has been focused on issues like custody, child support, and so-called “paternity fraud,” not on defending women’s bodily autonomy. Also, pointing out that some men, or male-led progressive groups, engage in pro-choice activism is not the same… | /r/MensRights | 28/03/25 10:58 PM |
| 1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?You’re the one who brought up the idea that MRAs fight for women’s reproductive rights, not me. So yes, if you have actual examples, protests, campaigns, legal efforts, anything, specifically aimed at defending women’s access to abortion, contraception, or reproductive autonomy, I’d be happy to see them. That’s literally all I asked. And no, it’s not “deflection” to point out that what MRAs mostly advocate for are men’s rights within parenthood, not women’s control over their own bodies. Those a… | /r/MensRights | 28/03/25 10:30 PM |
| 1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?Yes, I’m perfectly familiar with the idea of “financial abortion” or “consent to parenthood”, and that’s precisely what I’m saying. When MRAs talk about abortion, it’s usually not about defending women’s bodily autonomy, it’s about avoiding financial responsibility. That’s still not a campaign for women’s reproductive rights, it’s about men’s rights within parenthood, which is a different debate. I never denied that fatherhood is part of MRA activism, I said that MRAs aren’t known for fighting f… | /r/MensRights | 28/03/25 09:46 PM |
| 1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?“Parental surrender for men is just possible if abortion is legal”, that doesn’t really make sense. Abortion isn’t about parental surrender, it’s about ending a pregnancy. You can’t surrender parental responsibility if there is no child born. And just to be clear, I never said that no MRAs support abortion. I said it’s far from the focus of the movement, and when it is mentioned, it’s mostly about relieving men from legal obligations, not about championing women’s reproductive rights. Big differ… | /r/MensRights | 28/03/25 08:30 PM |
| 1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?Oh, I see what you’re doing now, trying to make it sound like men’s rights activists are all about the big picture, fighting for true equality, including abortion, daycare, and parental leave. That’s cute, but let’s be honest, MRAs have historically been much more focused on protecting men from child support and fighting for their rights in custody battles. Those “big ideas” you mention often seem to take a backseat. As for your survey, well, I didn’t need to conduct one to know that MRAs are no… | /r/MensRights | 28/03/25 03:09 PM |
| 1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?Oh, don’t worry, I’m well aware that some MRAs happen to support abortion, usually when it’s about avoiding child support rather than defending women’s reproductive rights. That’s not exactly the same fight. And no, I never said all MRAs are anti-choice. What I pointed out (and what still stands) is that reproductive rights have been consistently restricted by male-dominated institutions, with or without the individual opinions of some MRAs. If anything, the MRA movement has historically focused… | /r/MensRights | 28/03/25 02:55 PM |
| 1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?I mean, fair enough, I don’t think most feminists actually believe there was some “secret meeting” where men plotted all this. What they’re saying is more that, consciously or not, societies were structured in ways that ended up limiting women’s choices, often justified after the fact by appealing to nature. And yes, biological differences obviously affect our lives, no one denies that. The question is how much should they determine people’s roles. There’s a huge gap between saying “biology infl… | /r/MensRights | 28/03/25 02:48 PM |
| 1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?You raise some interesting points, but there are a few things I think you’re overlooking. First, on the idea that women could have objected but didn’t, sure, some probably did. The issue isn’t whether opposition existed, but whether it was documented and taken seriously. Just because we don’t have widespread records of women protesting these reforms doesn’t mean they were fine with them. The historical record is shaped by those in power, and for most of history, that wasn’t women. Even when they… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/25 02:15 PM |
| 1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?I see what you’re saying, but I think the key issue is that women’s reproductive rights have historically been controlled disproportionately by male-dominated institutions, and often in ways that restricted their autonomy rather than expanded it. You asked for an example : one clear case is the Comstock Laws in the U.S. These laws, passed in 1873, banned the distribution of contraceptives and even information about contraception. They were driven by male legislators and enforced by a male-domina… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/25 01:27 PM |
| 1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?I get what you’re saying, but I still think there’s a difference between women being able to speak out and actually having their voices heard. Sure, some women wrote or spoke about things, but that doesn’t mean society was really listening to them, especially on issues like labor laws and working conditions. Women didn’t have the same platform as men at the time, and their opinions often weren’t taken seriously or given the same weight in public debates. Now, about the evidence you’re asking for… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/25 01:12 PM |
| 1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?I get your point, but I think you’re missing the bigger picture. Sure, it’s true that support for abortion is split between men and women, but historically, and still today, most of the push to restrict reproductive rights (like birth control and abortion) has come from men in positions of power. The fact is that many of these decisions were made by men in government or religious leadership, and women had to fight just to gain access to these services. It’s not about narcissism. It’s about the r… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/25 12:54 PM |
| 1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?Unions didn’t keep women out: Some unions, especially in industries like textiles, definitely played a role in keeping women out of certain jobs. It wasn’t just about safety, it was also about protecting male jobs and maintaining traditional gender roles. They didn’t want women taking jobs they thought were “theirs.” The reforms were about safety, not just preserving male privilege: Sure, some of these reforms were meant to protect women’s safety, but they also played into the idea that women we… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/25 12:30 PM |
| 0 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?Ahahahah go to sleep grandpa, that’s already too much for you lol 🤭🤭 | /r/MensRights | 26/03/25 11:01 AM |
| -1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?“Biology isn’t oppression”? Okay, then explain why women’s biology has been used as an excuse to strip them of their rights for centuries. Why did women have to fight just to access birth control, abortion, or even the right to work without a man’s permission? And sure, some MRAs might be pro-choice (which is debatable), but that doesn’t change the fact that women’s reproductive rights are constantly under attack(mostly by men). So yeah, the “birth argument” is 100% valid. Nice try, though. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/25 09:58 AM |
| -1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?What supremacy? Fighting for women’s rights is supremacy? Fighting for our protection against men is supremacy? Fighting to be paid the same as men is supremacy? Fighting to have access to the same jobs as men is supremacy? And let me tell you something: you’re talking about female supremacy, but it doesn’t make sense. Men have always claimed to be superior to women and have humiliated them for centuries. So saying “female supremacy” is like saying “racism against white people exists”, it just d… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/25 09:51 AM |
| 0 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?AHAHAHA that’s crazy, if it’s on the news so there is a link and I want to see it. If you don’t give me some proofs it means that you don’t know what you’re talking about… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/25 09:21 AM |
| -1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?What’s the link ???? Find examples please | /r/MensRights | 26/03/25 08:31 AM |
| -1 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?https://daily.jstor.org/how-19th-century-cotton-mills-influenced-contemporary-gender-roles/?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://ehs.org.uk/unequal-pay-in-victorian-britain/?utm_source=chatgpt.com https://www.counterfire.org/article/womens-history/?utm_source=chatgpt.com And there are many other examples that exist, you just have to type on the internet. But on the other hand I’m still waiting for your proof... | /r/MensRights | 26/03/25 08:30 AM |
| -3 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?Find me a statistic that proves that it is the women FROM THE BEGINNING who have never wanted to do their jobs, and after that we can debate | /r/MensRights | 26/03/25 08:00 AM |
| -3 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?You say nonsense because that are the MEN who said that women can’t go in frontline nor work in construction. But today we’re in 2025 things are moving there’s more and more women that go in army or work in construction. So I don’t know when your statistics are dated but you should think about updating them | /r/MensRights | 26/03/25 07:51 AM |
| -2 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?No not really and let ask you something, who sets that system up ? Men are always saying that women can’t think, talk nor doing things by themselves. Now that today women have “privileges” as you say, you’re blaming WOMEN for a system that YOU set ? And I want to see that statistics that you’re talking about too… | /r/MensRights | 26/03/25 07:36 AM |
| 0 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?Killing people is not a privilege | /r/MensRights | 26/03/25 07:27 AM |
| -8 | What data is out there to debunk the "misandry annoys, misogyny kills" argument?What oppression?? Feminists are just fighting for equity. The day men can give birth, you can come back to talk to me about real oppression. | /r/MensRights | 26/03/25 07:25 AM |
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