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This is such an important callout but it’s too much work to qualify everything so people here will just continue to generalize so they can fight strangers on the internet and hate the world
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 08:13 PM
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And that has nothing to do with it. To cheat is to at the very least expose your significant other to harm. If you loved them you wouldn’t be doing that shit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 07:46 AM
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So your evidence is a Reddit thread with 30 responses and a blog post? And thus about 90% of women aren’t attracted to their partners and husbands even in the beginning? Dude this is bleak and has no actual basis in reality. You need to get off this subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 02:52 AM
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So you actually think that the partners and wives of 90% of men are not attracted to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 01:39 AM
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Lol what? Again, you realize that a small number of men receiving more likes on a dating app with like 8:1 men to women, does not mean that women only find 20% of men attractive, right? Can you show me any actual peer reviewed research that supports your claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 01:38 AM
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There’s a difference between causing someone close to you to be upset or hurting someone accidentally. It’s another thing to cheat on someone you supposedly love. I feel the same way about physical abuse of a spouse. Can a man really claim to love his wife if he gives her a black eye every week?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 01:36 AM
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To viscously hurt someone by cheating is not love
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:45 PM
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You think this is actual evidence that women only find 20% of men attractive? There’s like 30 actual responses and it’s an anonymous Reddit thread. And it’s not even asking about men. It’s asking about men and women Do you have any actual peer reviewed research for the 20% claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:40 PM
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Again that does not mean that women only find 20% of men attractive. You understand how that is entirely different, right? Dating apps are not real life
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:28 PM
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That’s the opposite of being loyal. And frankly, if you cheat then you don’t really love her
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:14 PM
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It’s worked out for me thus far. My gf certainly fits my standards and even preferences so I got lucky there
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:11 PM
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That doesn’t mean that women only find 20% of men attractive. That’s the results of algorithmic matching with many men to each single woman Here’s a good simulation: https://youtu.be/x3lypVnJ0HM There doesn’t seem to be any actual peer reviewed evidence of women only finding 20% of men attractive. If you know of some I’d really like to see it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:10 PM
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I think mine are pretty high especially for what I’m working with myself Tall, thin, and pretty is the most generalized version
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:51 PM
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Oh cool thanks. Yeah weird that it’s not even an actual study but it seems to a cornerstone of red pill thinking. I’d love to see someone try to actually study it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:50 PM
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I’m actually interested in the only 20% of men are attractive thing. I’ve never seen any peer reviewed evidence of this but it keeps getting thrown around a lot. Where is it from?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:23 PM
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You can change your mind but you can’t reasonable expect the other person to change to whatever new standard you’ve decided on. In those cases you must communicate and then gtfo of the relationship if necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:19 PM
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Sure but there’s certainly a point where it becomes unreasonable to expect the other to change. If you go out with a girl who says she doesn’t believe in monogamy, it’s unreasonable to go along with it and just hope she wakes up one day and changes her mind
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:17 PM
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They didn’t though? The only lawsuit I’ve been able to find is two men suing against women-only areas within a gym in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:14 PM
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Yeah of course. There’s endless videos of people catching others doing all sorts of stupid things and they will try to justify and blame the victim. That’s a human thing. It doesn’t mean that society at large believes they are justified or right by their actions. And certainly doesn’t mean that cheating is ok
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 07:27 PM
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Got a link?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 05:51 PM
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Sorry what? Most of the comments on that post were not shaming the guy. They were calling out the girl for cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 05:37 PM
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The reason the more toxic ones become thought leaders is largely due to social media algorithms and humans being humans. They’re purposefully divisive because they know that’s what drives views. I can’t speak to Jordan Peterson about that but plenty of red pill thought leaders are just grifters and no different from crypto or drop shipping influencers. They just want to make money Frankly it’s much more entertaining to watch Andrew Tate screech about how all women are whores than to listen to an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 02:52 PM
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Richard Reeves is my favorite
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 06:11 AM
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How is this being misrepresented? I liked some of the stuff he says but he’s gone off the deep end https://twitter.com/thebadstats/status/1625249621168779264?s=42&t=WKVSFTJmuIDua6rSH6BjZA
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 06:08 AM
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Yeah for me it was for sure 12 before I even really noticed girls as different besides the usual stuff. Funny how it impacts people so differently
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 12:25 AM
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It depends on location. In the US yeah they’re mostly theist, but continental Europe, Brazil, Mexico, etc have more continental branches which allow atheists and women (but again I think it can depend on the lodge). Also even in the Anglo/American version, they have women chapters and lodges and still refer to those women as “Freemasons”. But I still think theres a little tossup on how recognized they are depending on the lodge
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 12:21 AM
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Yeah that’s a bit weird imo. If it’s men’s club then it’s men’s club. There’s a few men’s only sports leagues in my city but they’re really only popular with former college athletes and types like that. The co-ed stuff is much more popular/social
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:50 PM
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Google it. There’s been multiple
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:39 PM
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I understand that strains to not allow women. And I’m showing you that some lodges do. The original question was if women could become Freemasons. The answer is yes. Now it may not be the kind you want to be but ultimately they can become Freemasons
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:39 PM
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The place I visited was literally the Freemasons’ Hall and contained multiple photos of “famous women Freemasons through time” So idk what to tell you. They may be separate and it depends on the lodge, but women can still be Freemasons today
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:32 PM
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They are still Freemasons. It depends heavily on the lodge https://freemason.org/female-freemasons/
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:25 PM
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Might depend on the country/chapter. In the UK and many parts of the US they allow women. I visited the main lodge in London on accident a few summers ago https://www.ugle.org.uk/become-freemason/women-freemasons
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:07 PM
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Not really. Just about anyone can join today
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:45 PM
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Freemasons are pretty heavily linked to Protestants so makes sense And they used to be. It was a pretty big and powerful club back in the 1700s-1800s Not really a big deal now but still around.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:42 PM
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There’s women only gyms. But there’s also a handful of male only gyms as well and they didn’t do very well at all. Men just don’t really want male-only spaces
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:36 PM
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Pretty sure they opened up to women fairly recently
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:35 PM
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Men are fully capable of creating male-only spaces. And plenty of them do in fact exist. Sports leagues, certain dive bars, professional clubs, etc. But there simply isn’t the same demand for male-only spaces like there is for women-only Furthermore, the popular/desirable male-only spaces that do exist and succeed tend to be about power and exclusion of other lower status men
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:12 PM
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It’s just a way to avoid accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 06:07 PM
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Even if she looks fit, I’d still want her to go to the gym. It’s mostly a health thing for me at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 09:53 AM
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Sick burn
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 12:39 AM
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I go to the gym a few times a week but I’m not overly into it. I prefer a partner that matches me in that regard
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:05 PM
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It’s not just testosterone but estradiol for women. And at least in mammals estradiol is much more heavily linked to sex drive than testosterone https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4720522/#:~:text=Both%20estradiol%20and%20testosterone%20have,female%20sexual%20motivation%20and%20behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:38 PM
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You have a weird obsession with that. I suggest talking to someone about it because you’re never going to be happy with that sort of outlook and will likely just repel any woman worth their salt
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 05:12 AM
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Your whole outlook on life and gender dynamics
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:55 AM
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Traditional is a courting arrangement where you get permission from her father and then meet with a chaperone. There’s nothing traditional about paying for a first date
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:42 AM
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Paying for a first date isn’t traditional
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:37 AM
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Live your life man. I think it’s pathetic, but I hope it works out for you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:37 AM
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If being fat wasn’t a huge privilege, millions of women wouldn’t be engaging in it and when men say that they want a woman who isn’t fat women wouldn’t be doubting it’s possible and sarcastically saying “good luck with that”…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:15 AM
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Dude that’s cringey
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 03:12 AM
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That’s a human thing. Not a gendered thing
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:31 PM
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The funniest person I know is a woman. I think I know more funny men though but most my friends are men so there’s a sampling bias
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:29 PM
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Nobody deserves to have someone else agree to spend the rest of their life with them. Yes they deserve to be treated as humans and have basic human rights, but beyond that it stops
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:44 PM
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No I really don’t. To say they deserve it suggests that others should be required to give them connection, joy, and comfort. They deserve to be treated as a human and not be attacked or mistreated unless of course they are attacking or mistreating others
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:33 PM
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Basic common, everyday courtesy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:31 PM
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Gross Also how is the mother even allowed to keep the kid? Should it not be placed for adoption rather than be raised by a literal child rapist?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:45 PM
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They deserve absolutely nothing besides basic human decency
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 02:19 PM
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How do you mean surplus of 30yo relationships? And it’s not just 29 yo dating 31. Let’s face it, the chances of someone being in a committed long-term relationship is much higher post college and later twenties. I’m not saying this is the whole reason for the difference, but I’d bet that it had a decent sized impact
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 01:26 PM
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I’m of the opinion that you can’t earn or deserve affection on an aggregate level. It’s completely dependent on another person willing to give it to you. With some there is absolutely nothing you can do to get them to show you affection With others you may not need to do anything But the idea that you have to work to “deserve” affection is false, damaging, and reinforcing unrealistic expectations of “you put in X then you must always get Y back”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 01:42 AM
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Men’s is 73 to women’s 79. I wouldn’t imagine it would have such a massive impact on 30-49 year olds. So what’s your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:12 PM
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Why would we see an equivalent boomerang? The gap decreases significantly in the next group. You’re going from a 29% difference to a 8% difference. That’s huge
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:05 PM
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It can get complicated though right? Like my assumption is that 27-30 year olds are more likely to be in commuted relationships than 18-25 year olds. So if women are dating just 2-3 years older on average, at 27 that’s going to make a huge impact But I’m just speculating. Just doesn’t seem to make much sense why the difference is so massive for young adults but then starts to even out pretty drastically at 30+
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:54 PM
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Hit the links
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:11 PM
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Lmao what?? Where are you pulling this out of?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:05 PM
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Oh cool. Interesting how women high in dark triad treated rank dark triad traits as most attractive too. I guess like attracts like
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 05:20 AM
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Your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:48 AM
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Is there any evidence that women like ALL dark triad traits? I thought it was just narcissism Men are more attracted to narcissistic women too on average
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:16 AM
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Yeah that would be fine
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:15 AM
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Ok so I guess your definition isn’t fucking accurate then now is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 10:00 PM
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Lmao get out of here A woman can’t be creepy then by your definition? A good looking guy can’t be creepy? I’ve had multiple female friends bring up how creepy armie hammer is with all the canabalism stuff. And I’ve certainly met creepy women in my lifetime
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 09:19 PM
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The definition is literally how it’s used today. You seriously believe creepy just means “anything an unattractive guy does that I don’t like” ??
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:06 PM
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And they just so happen to use it according to the definition
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:05 PM
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Look up the literal definition of creepy and get back to me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 08:00 PM
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Creepy means that you’re causing an “unpleasant feeling of fear of unease” That’s why it doesn’t necessarily matter what the behavior is but how people react to it A girl stalking my social media doesn’t make me scared to uneasy. But I can understand that some women may feel uneasy with a random guys I’m not saying it’s right, but that’s what it means
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:12 PM
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I do. We don’t live together but live pretty close in the same city. We were constantly sharing our locations temporarily to meet up in various places that it just became more convenient to always have it turned on
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 07:08 PM
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The vast majority of people marry, have relationships, and have multiple sex partners in their lifetime. I don’t know what fantasy you think you live in but that simply does not track with reality
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 06:12 AM
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What does that have to do with anything? You think women cheat because they want to get pregnant by another man?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 05:35 AM
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I mean men are also just much more likely to cheat full stop Some surveys get over 50% men admitting to cheating at least at some point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 05:22 AM
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College was a bit higher but after I’d say 10%.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 05:19 AM
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I’m of the opinion that if it’s just one date and you didn’t fuck it’s ok to ghost
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 05:18 AM
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Or just maybe it’s because breakups tend to bring out the worst in people
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 05:13 AM
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Just sex I’d choose B if she’s a 9.5 and I’m a man
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 05:11 AM
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Aren’t you the same guy who said you’re old?? Now you’re saying you’re 26?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 05:09 AM
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It’s the same prior. Both parties must reciprocate interest even before you get into a relationship By that logic you could argue that women have less control as it’s not socially acceptable for them to express interest first. So they just have to wait and hope the guy they like will make a move Either way it’s a stupid argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 02:15 AM
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And again, the man must also reciprocate interest. Both parties must continuously choose to be in and remain in a relationship. Whoever asks first is irrelevant You’re using the social expectation for men to approach first as an argument that women must then have more control. That has nothing to do with it and has no bearing on who has more “control”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:37 AM
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Of course that’s a fact. If the guy doesn’t want the girl then there also won’t be one. That’s how relationships fucking work
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 01:25 AM
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Everyone has the final say. You are able to pick up and leave at any time. Every single day in a relationship is you choosing to stay in that relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:41 PM
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And I’ve seen companies with cultures that are actively hostile towards women in the tech space. Like sure it’s rare, but it does happen Other one I saw recently was a company that unofficially had a policy to prioritize visa holders over us citizens cause the work culture sucked and visa holders were less likely to quit
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:21 PM
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Highly dependent on what industry, role, and company
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:04 PM
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I did therapy for a short period while I was juggling an insane workload and starting to get stretched a bit thin. It really helped me prioritize what I should and strengthen relationships in what little time I could spend on them. I don’t go now as I feel I don’t need it but for the short time it was worth it to me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:02 PM
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I can understand your viewpoint but I disagree with the idea that it is necessarily “woman’s market” Depends which way you look at to, the individual SMV of the individuals involved, and the relative time/situation you wish to compare against
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:54 PM
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Yeah sure. I’m betting bottom of the barrel men who have absolutely nothing to offer a relationship will have to live like this. Just like bottom of the barrel women may go their whole life without a man expressing genuine interest But this doesn’t mean that most men have standards so egregiously low that they would date and marry 90% of women And if they do then at some point men need to take some accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:59 PM
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You would date and marry 90% of women? At that point that’s us men for giving women that power. That’s sad You are still choosing to have basically no standards and simp for 90% of women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:47 PM
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You do realize she has to be chosen too, right? Everyone has to be chosen by the person they choose
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:38 PM
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What do you even mean by control? A woman deciding if she will date you is control? You realize that we men have that exact same choice to make, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:14 PM
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https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w10175/w10175.pdf Here is the working paper using state level data
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:51 PM
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I’m a man. And it’s not “if you’re poor you deserve it” It’s simply that you can’t expect anyone to want to be with you unless you provide something of value. Same to fat and bitchy women who expect to pull a Prince Charming. It’s not happening and the sooner you can take accountability for yourself the better
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:49 PM
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You’re looking at the wrong thing. Researchers are looking specifically at states who are legalizing no-fault divorce and compared them to states that did not. The difference between the two was a robust decline is female suicide rates than can be directly attributed to the introduction of no-fault divorce. Aggregating like you’ve shown doesn’t account for that difference especially as no fault divorce was passed in different states in different years https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:46 PM
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What do you mean by “drunk and made the wrong choice?”
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:26 AM
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Women’s suicide rates dropped by about 20% in states that adopted no-fault divorce Sounds like 1.0 wasn’t working very well either
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:44 AM
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Didn’t she go to multiple places and still came home crying? Either way, your fantasy where women just go out and make instance friends isn’t reality. I’ve seen my younger sister struggle hard with it in college even though she’s great. It’s a pretty normal human struggle
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 04:23 AM
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I remember this going viral of a woman attempting exactly that. You’re not going to randomly be adopted into a girl group and many don’t even get hit on
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 03:49 AM
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Education hypergamy is basically not a thing anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 09:57 PM
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I like to think “like attracts like” but I have no evidence to back that up rn
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 09:56 PM
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Ok continue avoiding accountability yourself and live in your own misery Good luck
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 09:52 PM
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Wanted. Being needed from a relation isn’t a good thing imo unless it’s expected/reasonable. Like from small children who can’t take care of themselves If the only reason that my gf stays is because she “needs” me rather than “wants” me then I’d rather she just leave
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 06:10 PM
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If it’s so difficult for you to please a woman then you are simply with the wrong woman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:33 PM
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Sounds like you’re just bad at sex
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 02:11 PM
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It’s a dealbreaker for me personally. We wouldn’t be compatible if she’s still a virgin in her mid-twenties
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 05:40 AM
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Only consensual if she knows you plan on ghosting immediately after. Otherwise it’s disingenuous and frankly pathetic
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:18 AM
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Why do men go to the gym to “looksmax”?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:10 AM
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You’re already handicapped by being sub 6 ft. Might as well be honest about it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:59 PM
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Or maybe don’t fuck them at all?? Not that hard
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:58 PM
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It seems less about the paying and more about the cringey behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:53 PM
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I used to be a part of a running club that was 60/40 women to men. The EDM crowd has a huge number of women Rock climbing/surfing is mostly men but you still get a good chunk of women in those environments as well You also meet more guy friends through hobbies and then meet girls through them as well It’s not that difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:51 PM
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I have a gf that is a perfect match. I’ve don’t the best I possible could And I’ve avoiding wasting my time and that of girls that care I’m not 6 ft. Win win
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:46 PM
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I don’t think that’s true. I’ve done absolutely fine on dating apps with having my height listed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:43 PM
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I heard it through the grapevine later on with two of them Most likely she’s not going to be forward and just decline a second date and give another reason later on. If it’s a dealbreaker, you’re not going o make them change their mind in an hour and youre wasting your time, money, and their time as well
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:42 PM
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Then you’re just wasting everyone’s time. Better to just list it and rip off the bandaid
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:16 PM
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I disagree. Better to be upfront on height. I’ve been on a few dates that were basically just a waste of time because I wasn’t tall enough for the girl
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:15 PM
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Women overwhelmingly are more attracted to kind and generous men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:42 PM
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I absolutely agree with you there. So many other men on here act like they are being forced to fuck fat and undesirable women. You can say no and to pretend like you can’t is avoiding accountability for your own actions and frankly insulting to men in general imo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:35 PM
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All of the above. Again, men and women tend to value different things so naturally dating in you’re league or “level” doesn’t mean a perfect match on all characteristics. Just because you can get an impoverished 9 doesn’t mean a wealthy 9 is in your league. Your league is determined by more factors than just your attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:31 PM
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It also allows anyone to get pissed and kill someone really easily Once everyone has guns, the only winner is whoever shoots first. Most of the time it’s the perpetrator
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:00 PM
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I’m seeing more and more stories of regular people getting pissed for some small reason and pulling a gun. It’s alarming
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:59 PM
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Just because you can get a woman aroused doesn’t mean she necessarily wants to sleep with you. Arousal and actual orgasm are different things for a woman while for a man it’s essentially guaranteed
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:57 PM
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You can still interact with people at a bar if you’re not trying to hit on anyone Chat with the bartender, other patrons, just sit and people watch, etc. Also just the energy is better. Business hotel rooms can be sterile, uncomfortable, and depressing Or if you’re visiting a new city you may want to try a new bar and explore a bit There’s a ton of reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:06 PM
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Some people like the ambiance and to explore a new city. Drinking a beer by myself in front of tv alone in a hotel room sounds depressing
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:52 PM
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They criticize each other a ton. TERF is mainly used by liberal feminists to insult rad feminists for example
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:49 PM
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There are much more straight clubs period so of course. And not all gay clubs are friendly to straight women But the idea that the reason women go to clubs is to get hit on is negated by how popular gay clubs are to straight women as well
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:45 PM
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Women in my city (and many others) love gay clubs. And they specifically do in large part because they don’t want to get hit on
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:34 PM
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If all he can get is an overweight woman then that is his league
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:32 PM
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I wonder if it’s socialized to some degree. Society links a woman’s body to sex more than a man’s
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:13 PM
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Takes a long time to change social norms. Probably will eventually get to that point though. It’s certainly becoming more common
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:08 PM
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Good for you for walking away from bad relationships though regardless. If LTR is what you want though I’d say don’t give up and try to filter better in the beginning
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:07 PM
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You’re at the age where most women around your age aren’t looking for hookups and young women who are open to a FWB are less likely to include 32 in their age range filter on apps or even in person
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:05 PM
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Source on that? The vast majority of couples date within the same or very similarly socioeconomic class, race, religion, education level, and yes level of attractiveness from my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:29 PM
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Your league is what you can get. Men and women value different things so naturally dating in your league or “level” doesn’t mean a perfect match on all characteristics More importantly, study after study shows that unattractive people consistently overrate themselves than more attractive people. If you think you are average and not getting any attention from average women THEN YOU PROBABLY ARENT AVERAGE Ugly people considerably and consistently overrate themselves and so the response “you’re pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 06:26 PM
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Nearly half of all tinder users aren’t even single
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:40 PM
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It’s for sure a type but they seem to match most of the men also involved pretty nicely Ravers date ravers. Burners date burners, founder date other founders or VC lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:54 PM
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Sorry my experience doesn’t work with your worldview
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:53 PM
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My gf is white but you’re right about the raver culture. I personally don’t partake but Asians in SF are disproportionally represented at EDM festivals and raves here I will say be careful about moving to Singapore. My coworker moved to SF from there primarily to find someone to date and is now married to a cool girl in SF. The culture can be pretty stifling and conservative if you’re used to/ want something more western
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:50 PM
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42 “bare minimum” matches does not make actual dates or relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:49 PM
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Can you link me the actual CDC source then? The one I provided finds it applies equally to both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:48 PM
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The apps are legit meant for physical attraction only. It’s basically just pictures and a short bio where everyone just says the same thing. How do you expect women to pick? And it seems they knew exactly what they were passing. An overweight tech guy. They wanted a fit tech guy and once you became that then they were interested. It wasn’t that they didn’t know what they were passing on. It’s that you changed into what they wanted
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:41 PM
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We are the same age, City, and job but Im shorter than you and Asian and I do absolutely fine here dating wise. I think the problem is you
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:04 PM
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Lmao did you even read your entire source? “It’s also entirely likely that the correlation is spurious, the product of certain personal characteristics. For instance, people who suffered childhood sexual abuse are more likely to have extensive sexual histories. Childhood abuse also increases the odds of a problematic marriage.” “Women with 10 or more partners were the most likely to divorce, but this only became true in recent years; Women with 3-9 partners were less likely to divorce than women…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 02:54 PM
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That and parents not actually parenting
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:15 AM
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It’s really not that common. Even historically for the west
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:43 PM
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Of course it can be. But that doesn’t mean that rape doesn’t have psychological trauma as well. And rape doesn’t necessarily need to be violent to result in major trauma Do you think a kid who got their arm broken in a school fight would always be more traumatized than a kid who was raped?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:39 PM
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How else would you like us to distribute a scarce resource?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:09 PM
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I don’t think so generally
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:07 PM
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It’s not about you being male. It’s about you making other patrons uncomfortable and thus harming the owners and workers in the bar itself
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 08:59 PM
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What’s your source on that one? I haven’t seen that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:35 PM
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Seems like men and women get about the same number of marches on average: “Men, on average, reported having matched with 111 and women 124, however approximately half of the participants reported having meet ups with matches, and on average, men met with 1.9 partners, women with 2.2 partners.” But the survey was just students. My bet is they are only really using it for ego stroking rather than to actually go on a date
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:35 PM
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Bones heal. The psychological trauma from rape can fuck someone up for life
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:23 PM
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So obviously many people really want to be here. My mom is an immigrant and a large portion of her extended family has spent thousands of hours and significant resources to try and come over here too There’s no guarantee of anything but immigrants do have a higher fertility rate than native born US citizens
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:31 PM
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And yet people are still risking their lives every day to come here or waiting for years for a visa in their home country
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:49 PM
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You’re not friends with anyone that has a different personality than you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:53 AM
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Hard disagree. Women and men are different sure but not THAT different
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:30 AM
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Depends on what you want Basically you reap you sow
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 07:56 PM
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Yeah one of my good friends owns a luxury fertility practice in the bay. He has brought up a few times that most of the couples who come in end up doing so because of complications with the man rather than the woman. A bunch of the older guys in our friend group have freezes sperm over it The chances and risks are still pretty low. Chances are you’ll likely be fine if you want to have kids later in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:59 PM
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Which I address. Yes it’s harder but with modern medicine you’re likely fine
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:50 PM
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My fucking grandma had 3 kids past the age of 35 and they all turned out amazing. Sure it’s harder but generally you’re going to be ok. Especially with modern medicine I agree with the home thing though. Being in a couple tends to help with finances a lot. Particularly when both are working
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:29 PM
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Yeah and some get pissed and start shooting people
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:50 PM
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My gf works in finance and it’s not a dealbreaker. It’s pretty great because we now make a similar salary and can travel/have the lifestyle we want together
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:48 PM
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He should either way. It’s his wife and if it’s something that would cause her to want to end the relationship, then she should know
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:45 PM
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Overweight woman who is probably married with 1/2 kids and living fairly modestly in a house in the suburbs
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 06:38 PM
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Is it? So many simply want to be the provider
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:53 PM
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So you don’t think men prefer shorter or younger women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:27 AM
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It has everything to do with the argument. A younger/shorter girl is likely going to have a higher SMV than a taller/older girl So a guy going for a taller/older girl is likely dating down. Not up
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:21 AM
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Do you prefer a taller or shorter woman? How about younger or older?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 05:16 AM
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Sure. I’m just pointing out the large amount of men who claim they would never date a girl making more than them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:45 AM
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Depends on the guy apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 04:05 AM
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“Dating down” implies dating someone with a lower SMV. In this case, she has a higher SMV relative to a girl older and who makes more. So you’re dating up
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 02:23 AM
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I’d prefer a girl who is shorter and younger than me. So in that way I’m “dating up” Plenty of men prefer a girl who makes less than them. In that way they are “dating up” because they are going after things they desire
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:07 AM
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I’m sorry but this is such a silly argument to me. And men say they don’t like promiscuous women but still fuck and marry plenty of women with extensive pasts. So by your logic men really don’t care The exception doesn’t make the rule for either case
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:39 PM
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Casual sex is easier for women because there is a much larger population of men who want casual sex than women. That’s it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:26 PM
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I’m not a woman so I think it depends. What I can say is from talking to my sister who is early-twenties. She wants a boyfriend. Most guys her age (23) aren’t looking to settle down or be in a committed relationship. (I definitely wasn’t at that age). She goes out with plenty of guys her age or even a tad younger but they sort of filter themselves out when she expresses what she’s looking for. She’s now dating a guy who is 27 and also looking for a relationship. People go for different things ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:24 PM
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That’s not how anything works. There is such thing as too much of something. I think it’s weird when kids have an overly close relationship with their parents for example Being close with your parents? Fine Needing to speak with a parent every day/refusing to move out of their house? A little weird. Showering with your mother as an adult? Big weird (And yes I knew a girl who would do this) Same with number of past relationships Never dated anyone? Eh that’s a little weird Had a bit of relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:45 PM
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Small gap not creepy, medium gap kinda creepy, big gap big creepy It’s not that confusing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:28 PM
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Well that doesn’t make any sense because it still is a gap
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 06:27 PM
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Lol what?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:41 PM
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It’s a spectrum though right? Like it’s weird to see a 50 year old with an 20 year old. But I’d think it’s fine for a 30 year old and at 23 year old
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:26 PM
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Can you give an example? It’s a pretty human thing to want to avoid accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:40 PM
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It’s not necessarily bad decisions post divorce but being left in a much worse off position afterwards. My friends mother was from South Korea and married an American man who she met in her country. His work there was up and he convinced her to drop out of her undergrad to move to the US with him. They were married and had 4 children. One of which was autistic and required constant supervision. Her husband wasn’t making much early in his career so she didn’t go to college here and instead stayed…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:52 AM
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And the same phenomenon is well documented in the US. Feel free to read through the US studies referenced in the study I cited
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:00 AM
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I don’t know about “can” but both men and women are heavily influenced by societal trends of what is or is not attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:38 AM
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Alimony is 1. Rare and 2. Rarely lasts forever when it even is awarded. I don’t think alimony is appropriate in the vast majority of cases. But in some it absolutely is and should be available as an option if deemed appropriate and necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:49 AM
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Women have much worse outcomes in divorce than men https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5992251/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:36 AM
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I absolutely did. And again it shows my point that many women in those situations are fucked. Even if they are able to scrape by after divorce, it doesn’t change the fact that they have lost those years of potential career progression and are essentially starting over. Based on that I’d say in some cases alimony is reasonable and even fair
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:46 AM
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I’m not sure where you live but it seems like children and people living on social programs tend to have pretty terrible life outcomes. I’ve known many women who use social programs and yet are still unable to climb out of poverty. Basically they barely scrape by and their kids grow up with insufficient attention as their mothers are working multiple jobs to support the family. Ultimately, women are much more impacted by divorce in the long run than men. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:11 AM
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Men’s strategy is biological as well. Even if society were to allow men to have sex with whoever they want, there would likely be a similar outcome. Men placing some women into “wife material” and some into “hookup material”. We see this plenty with men who have the looks/resources to sleep with whoever they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 02:04 AM
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Im at the point where I have no pity for those men anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:59 AM
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So you’re expecting the single mother to be able to afford housing, child care, and other living expenses while working minimum wage and also have the time and energy to go back to school?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:14 AM
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Depends on the man. I would certainly marry in the current system. If any other man is significantly worried about it I would say they 100% should not get married
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:12 AM
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Women’s strategy is also based in biology. They are biologically attracted to an “alpha” with the best possible genes, yet will speak out a “beta” provider in order to give the child the best chance of survival. It’s also why women’s mate preference changes when they are ovulating or at different times in their cycle
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:10 AM
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I plan to marry myself but to a woman who is making at least a set amount and can contribute to household finances. I think most men are doing themselves a major disservice by claiming they don’t care what their partner does or how much they make. But women are much more impacted by divorce financially and in the long term than men. That’s a known fact https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5992251/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:37 PM
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Which one is more common? Because women are much more likely to be financially worse off after divorce than men. Alimony awards are incredibly rare. The few times I’ve seen it in my personal life have been in circumstances where the receiver absolutely deserved it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:03 PM
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I’d rather live in a world where that wasn’t necessary. It would suck ti have to involve a lawyer in any life decisions between couples Ideally there would be methods already in law that would protect my wife and myself in the event of a divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 09:01 PM
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It depends though right? Say you asked the wife to stay at home and have kids so you could focus on a demanding job. Then you get divorced. In that case she’s fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 08:44 PM
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There is such a thing as learning from your mistakes. I don’t fuck with party girls anymore. Learned that lesson in college
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:48 PM
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And I’d argue that some men think out this sort of strategy as well. “I don’t want to fuck up my perfectly good marriage and make my children hate me but I still want to fuck around.” So they sneak around and cheat Plenty of men (and women) employ both short-term and long-term mating strategies (sometimes simultaneously). For women it’s AF/BB and for men it’s wife material vs hookup material
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 07:47 PM
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Based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 05:10 PM
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Male sugar baby: https://youtu.be/ty4eNpFAfPg How does sex work being legal make sugaring not sex work? That doesn’t impact the fact that it’s still sex work
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:05 PM
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Much higher rates of divorce in age gap relationships if you’re looking for marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/23 12:49 PM
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That’s fine. But you’re just making up a new definition for hypergamy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/23 12:13 PM
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This is very true
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 01:03 PM
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I don’t think lower socioeconomic status people necessarily have more free time. They usually work about the same and have less disposable income to cover things like a housekeeper that would free up more time outside of work Here is a good visual: https://twitter.com/rubenbmathisen/status/1555281045792112643?s=46&t=6NX3B9GyFK-_sByXlTtbLg
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/23 10:35 AM
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??? If you had 100 girls on OLD trying to go out with you, which one would you pick? The answer is the most attractive one Women behave the same way men would if we were in their position
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 05:25 PM
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It’s first and foremost pictures. That’s the whole premise. Half the people on their don’t even fill out a bio besides basic shit Have you even used a dating app? Tinder and Raya have no prompts last time I used it. Hinge is the only one I’ve seen that requires some writing but even then it’s essentially a copy and paste. What the fuck do you expect people to swipe on if not physical characteristics. Some of the men on here expect women to be perfect angels. They’re just like us, they swipe base…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 12:07 PM
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Exactly this. And even within men and women you’re going to have a wife variance in shear number of opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 11:33 AM
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You seriously think you can judge personality off of two little sentences? Let’s be honest. If most men were on a dating app with hundreds of girls trying to get with them, the outcome would just be the same. They’d be more picky and only match with the most attractive options. Dating apps are first and foremost visual above all else
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/23 07:49 AM
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First of all, what the hell are you even talking about? Secondly, I’m a man. Majority of us ain’t looking to get married by the end of university. Plus you have a higher likelihood of divorce is you marry young vs if you wait until you’re a bit older. Live your life but if I’m personally incredibly grateful I didn’t marry any of the girls I dated in college
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 07:14 PM
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I mean live your life but imo most people are better off waiting for marriage until after college
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 06:50 PM
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How the fuck do you expect women to pick in old? It’s literally just pictures. The only thing they’re choosing off of is attractiveness and most old platforms have like 8:1 men to women so of course they are going to be picky
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 05:25 PM
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Lmao my goal when I entered university was to get laid and get an internship What guys are looking to settle down in college??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/23 03:23 PM
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I don’t think you know what you’re talking about. I haven’t seen a single government policy that results in what you’re describing and I also work at a large tech company
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:14 PM
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I need to see a picture if I’m going to answer this accurately
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 08:11 PM
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No plans to be a SAHM. The lifestyle we want will likely require two incomes in at least in the short term. It’s fine to not have that preference. But the vast majority of families in the USA are not single income
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 07:48 PM
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What are you even talking about? Many couples pool their resources. Especially if the woman is making more or similar. My gf makes around my own salary and pays for plenty. It’s great. If I marry her we will be able to afford a much better lifestyle for ourselves and future family than just what I could offer on my own
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:03 PM
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I don’t disagree that men seem to be more willing to date lower earning women on average. But even so, the vast majority of people marry within their economic class
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 06:00 PM
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Do you think many men would? I make well over six figures and won’t consider marriage with a girl unless she’s making at least 150k. Most people marry within their own social and economic class Also if a woman is dating someone 5 years her senior then I think it’s perfectly reasonable for her to expect him to be making more than she does
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 02:38 PM
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My mom follows me on insta
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 12:38 PM
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Maybe what the original poster said. Men are checking out of the workforce and women are outcompeting The why is much more complicated. I recommend reading Of Boys and Men: Why the Modern Male Is Struggling, Why It Matters, and What to Do about It by Richard Reeves if you’re interested
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:41 AM
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Eh. I’ve seen plenty of lazy people make it through college. Most high paying jobs require a college degree. It’s just a fact that a college degree leads to better life outcomes on average
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:33 AM
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Even so, college graduates have much better life outcomes included lifetime earnings than those that did not go to college. It’s not was worthless as people think
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/23 10:28 AM
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Lol it’s a “privilege” to be emotionally abusive and isolate your significant other from their friends and family?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 03:11 PM
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On the more extreme end they’re becoming legit terrorists
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 12:55 PM
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One is definitely the health/good body aspect. But another part is that I want her to enjoy an active lifestyle and activities that someone out of shape may not be able to do My current gf and I go hiking regularly. We like kayaking and paddle boarding and surfing a bit as well. My gf is planning a hiking/camping trip through a cave system in Vietnam. So basically I want someone who is capable of and enjoys doing the above. Also it’s just more fun to go to the gym with your gf sometimes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:53 AM
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Intelligent (don’t care about degree) Physically attractive No major mental health issues Income 150k+ Family values Adventurous (travel, new hobbies, learning, etc.) Responsible and functioning adult No kids
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/23 08:50 AM
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No. But I’d still get married when the divorce rate is 41% Also divorce rate != change of divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:28 PM
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Most first marriages do not end in divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 09:22 PM
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And I’d have to disagree but to each their own Most men who say what you say are in unhappy/unsatisfying relationships or just single imo
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 08:12 PM
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Don’t most men eventually get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 08:11 PM
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I’ve been most successful by being emotionally available but that’s anecdotal
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:39 PM
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Testosterone isn’t the only hormone to influence sex drive. Estrogen, progesterone, and norepinephrine play a massive role in the sex drive of women. So just comparing testosterone levels isn’t accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 07:32 PM
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With a stranger? No because I’m not fucking stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:50 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 05:00 PM
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No I just don’t fuck intoxicated women. Easy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/23 03:10 PM
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I used to think this way when I was a teen. But there’s something really amazing about finding a good partner. I’m happier than I’ve ever been That being said it’s not for everyone so no shame if that lifestyle isn’t your thing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:38 PM
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He hasn’t dissolved his entire personality though. He’s more well rounded and genuinely happier. Nothing wrong with that. But if you’re happy the way you are then nobody should tell you you should change anything either
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:35 AM
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They have always had similar incomes. She actually might make more than him now since she’s fairly high up as a designer at a FAANG company and he’s an engineer at a smaller startup He’s trying to apply for MBAs rn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:29 AM
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How men perceive you as well. There’s a night and day difference to how I’m treated both professionally and in my personal life depending on how I dress and present myself. People will just take you more seriously when you dress well
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 11:16 AM
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Met up with a buddy today who was visiting my city. He’s always been a bit of a dork but smart and a good guy. He used to have a difficult time with girls back in our early twenties but a lot of it was because of his style. He dressed like a 14 year old at 23 and just didn’t really give a shit. I think it contributed to him acting a bit awkward in social situations. We were splitting a 4 bedroom right out of college with some other friends and he was the only one who didn’t even bother getting a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 10:48 AM
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If she’s extremely drunk then she is unable to consent
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/23 09:53 AM
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The fucked up part was the number of people just watching it all happen and not doing shit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 09:28 PM
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This is huge. I had a similar experience. I’m nothing special and a minority but once I actually got some ok photos of me I was able to get plenty of dates through OLD. I’m sure it’s not for everyone but I’d enjoy it if the guys constantly complaining about it would post their profiles
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 05:09 PM
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Foundation over acne scars and shit is obvious and looks gross. I’m a guy and it’s easy to spot it in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/23 08:10 AM
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People watch controversial/shocking stuff way more than anything else. The algorithm then just keeps recommending those videos. I bet at least half of Andrew Tate’s views are people hate watching for entertainment but it still gets him views and makes him more popular There’s a teen in the UK that basically did the same thing. Started posting terrible pranks on his TikTok that kept going viral because it was upsetting people. The fame is addicting so he wouldn’t stop and now he’s been arrested f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 12:15 PM
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Hot balloons feel very feminine to me in a gut reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/23 08:43 AM
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Covid. I meant Covid
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 08:34 PM
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Lol are you vaccinated?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 07:50 PM
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Yeah I doubt that too. Like sure there may be outliers. People are capable of crazy shit. But the majority ain’t calling their bfs names for crying at a funeral and then tweeting about toxic masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:47 PM
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I don’t think the people against toxic masculinity are the same ones calling their bfs faggots for crying at a funeral
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/23 06:41 PM
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I’m talking about guys in the are we dating the same guy Facebook group from the original comment
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 10:55 PM
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Who is?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:28 PM
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Which stats? I’ve seen several that say the opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/23 07:45 AM
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I can’t get height from a photo super accurately but plenty of them looked average and short as well. Idk man. I think you’re reading too much into it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 04:02 PM
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For one it’s just bad manners. For another it gives the impression that you are only interested in sex and not them as a person
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 08:26 AM
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You see plenty of the women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:44 AM
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I’m a guy and I thought most the men posted on there were ugly. But if they are being posted then they must be dating
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:43 AM
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I don’t disagree with you there and I think the Facebook page is proof. There’s girls on there posting their bfs who are objectively ugly and do t seem to have a lot going for them. Most people find somebody
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/23 06:43 AM
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Most the men posted on there are not top guys. Majority are ugly imo but I’ve only scrolled through a handful of times on my gf’s Facebook
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 09:16 PM
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I think for many it’s a religious thing. Hard to argue with someone who thinks that abortion is legitimately killing a baby
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/23 05:17 PM
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Lmao wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:57 AM
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Same. I'm in my late twenties and I honestly get a little weirded out with all the red pillars saying 18 is the most attractive age for a woman. I'd much prefer someone mid-twenties to early thirties. 18 year olds look like kids
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/23 11:28 AM
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You keep saying shit but are unable to provide evidence When I’ve shown you actual peer reviewed studies your response is to make up a conspiracy theory about feminists pressuring researchers to adjust their results in order to fulfill some agenda to prove that men overestimate their looks. I dislike feminists and even I see that’s crazy You have one of the biggest confirmation biases I’ve seen on this sub. I think we are done here
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 12:46 PM
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I’m a guy. You should def split utilities but I don’t think it would be fair to split rent 50% or even 40% as he is building equity in the home
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/23 08:41 AM
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Ever see a guy swipe on tinder? I’ve watched my friends just go right swipe after right swipe not even looking at the pictures. Hell I used to do the same in college. I swipe doesn’t mean shit
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 11:19 PM
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No. That does not infer that women will only date what they deem as up
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 11:04 PM
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Hahaha every reality show is with real people. That’s not a real source. I don’t think you know how this works And the test for narcissism was developed by two men. Gender has nothing to do with it. You’re grasping at straws
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 10:16 PM
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Lmao your source is a reality tv show? Come on man. I can’t take you seriously Both men and women diagnose men and women with narcissism. It’s not gender specific. They often use the Narcissistic Personality Inventory
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:37 PM
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Source for your first point? I haven’t seen that The threshold for narcissism is the same for men and women. It’s not gender specific
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:52 PM
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Kinda fucked that you think men would be able to organize faster because women are so “self absorbed and self serving” First of all the genders aren’t all that different Secondly, men score higher on average in narcissism than women and studies show that women are slightly more collaborative than men on average So if anything research seems to show the opposite The most cringe takes on here are the ones acting like women are some separate species from us
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:59 PM
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You don’t think you should let them know you’re fucking other people?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 07:31 PM
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Cool that you’re an expert on women’s sex drive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 04:34 PM
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None of the links you provided shows women think 80% of women are pretty. Can you link me to that specific claim?? The studies linked used panels of both male and females to rate the others as well as themselves in some cases. The women’s score was much more closely related to what other men and women rate them. The last link I posted lists the same. Women were much more likely to rate themselves similarly to what others had rated them than men who often overinflated. You can see this is table 5…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 09:55 AM
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First article. If you don’t have access it’s in the abstract as well: “This study examined sex differences in men’s and women’s accuracy at assessing their own attractiveness…. Female subjects were significantly accurate, as defined by positive correlations between predictors and criteria, whereas the correlations for male subjects were small and nonsignificant” There’s a ton of similar studies that find the same thing all over https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309213087_Knowing_your_face…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/23 08:42 AM
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It does if you want to drive engagement like on social media
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 06:40 PM
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I’m introverted and I’ve done just fine. It may change your options slightly but overall not a big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:56 PM
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One girl went to great lengths just to get like a 10% discount on a top when we were shopping together on vacation and it gave me the ick
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:39 PM
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I mean sure but we are talking about self-rating here
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 05:36 PM
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8k but only because rent and credit card bills get charged at the same time and I like the peace of mind to having enough in there
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:34 PM
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Except women rate themselves more accurately than men rate themselves AND women tend to have lower self esteem than men https://www.jstor.org/stable/3033724?origin=crossref https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11252852/ Interestingly, those that are most likely to overinflated their attractiveness is unattractive people. While attractive people are more likely to underestimate their own attractiveness. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/sjop.12631
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:26 PM
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Sis code?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 03:20 PM
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You don’t know how social media works
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 01:41 PM
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Well it’s neither so idk how to help ya there. And I’m talking about real life. People post stupid shit on social media all the time because it drives engagement Don’t believe everything you see on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 12:59 PM
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So this is interesting because we find that ugly people are much more likely to overrate themselves. So I don’t think that experience was just because she was a woman. In fact, women are better able to accurately rate their own attractiveness than the men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 12:55 PM
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I think there’s a difference between internet people calling themselves a 10 to make a point and what people actually think of themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 12:36 PM
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I’ve seen more men in real life overrate themselves than women. However I’m a guy so I’m around more men than women on a day-to-day basis. So take it with a grain of salt Both genders seem pretty delusional when it comes to things like this
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 12:35 PM
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Almost all the people on that table are fairly prominent in the red pill community
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/23 09:49 AM
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I’ve met a fair amount of ugly non-fat chicks. Look at Caroline Ellison https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/12/23/ftx-founders-girlfriend-caroline-ellison-tells-court-actions/
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 11:43 PM
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It doesn’t drain me emotionally to hear her complain. Hell I complain about work stuff all the time. It’s therapeutic It’s a perfectly normal human thing to express dissatisfaction about something in your life. Especially to a close partner I agree there’s a point where complaining becomes too much though. But I’ve never had my gf go anywhere near that threshold
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 10:07 PM
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She’s expressing dissatisfaction with the expectation that she must wear makeup in order to do her job in some settings I like wearing a suit. I would absolutely hate it if I had to wear a suit every day I go into the office. It’s perfectly reasonable to enjoy wearing a suit for special occasions but disliking an expectation that I must always wear one in a work setting. Does that make sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:38 PM
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I’m sorry but your comment isn’t making much sense to me. Can you try to reword it more clearly?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:12 PM
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Lmao “spiritually gay” is one of the best things I’ve seen here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:39 PM
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There’s no written policy that says she can’t wear a tank top and sweatpants to work either So according to you, it should be totally fine for her to dress like that for a big meeting, right? I don’t understand how this is going over your head
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:20 PM
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She works in VC. There’s no written policy for any dress and grooming standards, but there is a social/cultural standard for the industry. Most online guides for women’s professional dress include something about light makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 07:09 PM
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My gf complains about having to wear makeup. At her job it’s important to look put together and professional and for women that includes wearing some light makeup. When she works from home she usually doesn’t do makeup She also enjoys wearing makeup when we go out and experimenting with all of that. I can see how it’s fun for her with all the different colors and stuff. That kind of makeup she can’t wear to the office Do you see how she can feel all of the above and not be contradictory?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 06:54 PM
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Nah some Asians have naturally blond hair. But yeah probs would be white then. I don’t really mind if it’s real or not. Just more attracted to blonds
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:54 PM
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167-180ish
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:27 PM
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It’s my minimum. Not interested in dating anyone making less in the area I live in and it’s not unheard of for people in my circle to think the same. No shame to anyone who doesn’t have that preference though What kind of metric?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 03:02 PM
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Min income: 150k min height: 5’6 max height: 5’11 Hair color: blond Age range: 25-30 Body type: thin (don’t have a specific weight number in mind) I don’t really have any specific preferences for anything else you listed
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:36 PM
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Do you have kids or anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:16 PM
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Glad to hear it! What would you say has made the biggest difference then?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:08 PM
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Are you happy?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 02:01 PM
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Lmao “I know because I’m mid 20s and have dated a 30 year old”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/23 08:52 AM
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Well said
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 07:05 PM
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But there still has to be some level of physical attraction. Yeah a 5 can end up being more attractive than a 6 all together, but if she’s not physically attracted to him at all from the beginning he may as well be a 1. No amount of a great personality can make that up
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 06:54 PM
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I mean I’m in my late twenties and I still see guys hitting on girls at parties and at bars and stuff plenty Are you older or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/23 09:01 AM
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True but I honestly think they make things harder for the rest of us I was meeting one of my female friends once and I saw a guy stop her on the street from a block away and she quickly brushed him off. He was tall but I couldn’t really see what he looked like from a distance. She said that he had tried using a line on her to get her number. When I asked why she didn’t give it she said something like “he was cute but was probably a pick up artist.” I think they only make it more difficult for no…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:35 PM
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Idk why but they give used-car salesman vibes. Something slimy and untrustworthy about it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 05:24 PM
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Most girls I know who don’t use dating apps meet people through friends, in the wild (gym, classes, work events), and at parties/bars/music festivals A bunch of my gf’s friends have removed dating apps entirely but I haven’t really talked to them much as to why I met my gf on an app a few years ago, but most of my friends in relationships met their significant others off of apps. I don’t think apps will ever go away but I low key think they’ve hit their peak
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 04:42 PM
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My gf is absolutely amazing. If I had tried to start a relationship with her based on your suggestion I wouldn’t be in the relationship rn. She would have passed and found someone down for monogamy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 09:26 AM
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That sounds like a great way to either lose out on a great relationship or blow up an already great relationship with stupid mind games
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/23 08:30 AM
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Careful. Dates that last forever get really boring really fast and can be a great way to kill a spark
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:30 PM
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Thanks I’m very lucky to have her
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 04:15 PM
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Yeah I think there’s dating advice that works for most people like the stuff my parents gave me. But there’s also some people that just struggle and no amount of the generic dating advice can really help them sadly
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 03:42 PM
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Absolutely not. I want intelligent kids
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:12 PM
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My mom was pretty adamant that I should stay away from mean girls and taught some basic grooming. When I was in middle school she made me dance with her so I’d know how to ask a girl to dance during the slow songs. It was mortifying but looking back I really appreciate it I was taught just the basics though. Open doors, ask her questions, don’t keep her out too late, be respectful, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 01:07 PM
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And what would you say that would be?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/23 09:39 AM
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Sorry can you rewrite? I have no idea what you are trying to say there And you didn’t answer my question about ugly and hot people
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 10:10 PM
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Neither are ugly and hot people. So do they have different levels of cheating too? Also why does not being sexually equal translate to different levels of cheating?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:48 PM
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Neither are ugly and hot people. So do they have different levels of cheating too?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 09:46 PM
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Well referring to men as “the other way” isn’t grammatically correct so I wanted to clarify to make sure I understood you. In a debate forum it is common practice to make sure you are on the same page in order to have a fruitful discussion and avoid misunderstanding And to answer your question based only on your comment I’d say yes. If men can handle being with one woman as long as their sexual needs are met then it seems they are fine in monogamous relationships. Basically their libido remains …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:27 PM
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I don’t need you to patronize me. I’m trying to respond accurately to your question which is why I’m asking you directly what you mean by your statement in order to avoid misunderstanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:08 PM
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Based on what you quoted I’m unsure. What do you mean by “the other way?”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 07:03 PM
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If women’s libido tanks in LTR, doesn’t that suggest that women are the ones who need sexual variety?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:38 PM
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He’s not fucking anyone though. Just sharing dick pics. So is that equivalent?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 05:18 PM
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Omg it’s like I’m talking to a wall. But the man is still sharing in this instance. And according to you, her sharing should then be equivalent If he’s sharing dick picks on Grindr does that make a difference? Now he’s opening himself up to sexual advances. By your logic she should then get to fuck whoever she wants and it’s equal because both are sharing
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:58 PM
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So are you just putting everything into one bucket labeled “sharing”? For example if the man sends nude pictures that’s sharing. So if the girl then “shares” too and fucks another guy, it’s equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:12 PM
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How is that the equivalent? In the scenario he describes it seems the man is aware of the OF
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 01:38 PM
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That shouldn't matter. By your logic the ugly one gets to sleep with whoever they want and its equal according to you, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:32 AM
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Let's say you have two gay men. One is really hot and one is overweight and unattractive. You're telling me that if the hot one does OF, then the ugly one should have a pass to sleep with other people because he's less sexually desired and that's equal??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:27 AM
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Let's say you have two gay men. One is really hot and one is overweight and unattractive. You're telling me that if the hot one does OF, then the ugly one should have a pass to sleep with other people because he's less sexually desired and that's equal??
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:26 AM
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No. But that has nothing to do with what you're saying
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 03:22 AM
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Sorry dude but it doesn't work that way. The only thing comparable to her sharing images of her body is him sharing images of his body The only thing comparable to her fucking another guy is him fucking another girl
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:40 AM
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Only way this works is if she's fucking other guys. If a girl has only fans, her bf should be within his right to start his own and post all the nudes he wants. It's hypocritical otherwise Now if he wants to sleep with other girls then it's only a double standard if he doesn't allow her to do the same
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:31 AM
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You get the opposite a lot too though. People like Christ Brown who despite being found guilty of all sorts of shit still have a major presence in their industry
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/23 02:29 AM
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Yes but I don't play many video games as an adult
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 09:07 PM
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I'm open to taking my future wife’s last name as long as it's cooler than mine
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 03:30 PM
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Socialization. Sorry it was a typo
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 02:29 PM
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Explain to me how specialization makes the distribution of casual sex more equal?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/23 12:21 AM
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And the only ways to improve it involve removing bodily autonomy so good luck with that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 09:29 PM
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Yep and so has the distribution of casual sex. Never going to be completely equal though so might as well get over it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 03:35 PM
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I'm talking more about sex as a service but sure go off
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 05:26 AM
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The differences between the extremes within each gender is much larger than the difference in averages between the genders
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 02:51 AM
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Yeah its basically wealth distribution. It's literally the same as everything else in society
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/23 12:44 AM
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But you still are much more likely to marry someone within your own SES How are you defining it?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 11:15 PM
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Have they? It seems like more men are able to have casual sex now than in generations before partly due to feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 11:13 PM
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Never has been and never will be. Its like arguing that money isn't distributed evening among all people. Go ahead and make the argument but it's never going to change and most of the time when people attempt it, it goes very poorly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 09:33 PM
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There's always sex workers
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 09:31 PM
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Got stats on that? I always thought that you were much more likely to marry within your SES And you're saying they are more likely to get divorced AND are happier in that relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 09:23 PM
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What's sea?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 07:26 PM
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Sorry but I'm not following. Can you explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 06:51 PM
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I prefer to live in places for so homogenous. It's much more fun to be around people with diverse lifestyles, opinions, values, etc. I grew up in a fairly tight knit mostly asian community. Not religious but similar cons still persist
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:33 AM
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I didn't mention religion so I'm unsure why you're commenting that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 03:06 AM
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??
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 02:44 AM
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I agree. I don't think it's worth it to live in those communities. But it does result in faster moving relationships and relationships that last longer
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:51 AM
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I think a lot of it has to do with shared values. Makes relationships move faster If you’re going on a first date in a tight-knit homogenous community, you are more likely to share relationship expectations, values, lifestyles, etc. In the regular world you just gotta hope that the person you’re about to meet matches up with you on all that. And finding somebody who does takes a lot of time and effort
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/23 01:24 AM
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I’m late twenties
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 08:59 PM
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Don’t be talking shit about your significant other to your friends. That’s just bad taste
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:59 PM
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The people I’ve dated as I’ve grown older have always been better than the last. But that’s also because I’ve had those past experiences to figure out what I want and to grow as a person. Waiting will make you miss out on those Also in your 20s you’ll likely have many more experiences on the day to day to meet women and date than you would in your 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:57 PM
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I do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:49 PM
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Like 50
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 07:48 PM
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I’m talking about relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:35 PM
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I disagree with all of this. Women don’t necessarily expect men to have a better job or make more money. You are much more likely to marry someone if the same background, social class, economic class, education level, religion, etc. than anything else else
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:30 PM
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What do you mean by “men are better than women”?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:33 PM
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Nah man I’d take a girl with experience over a virgin any day. Not all men are weirdly obsessed with virginity
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:35 PM
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Fair enough. I’m speaking primarily about conditions such as autism, adhd, dyslexia, Tourette syndrome, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 04:33 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 03:04 PM
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My original comment was referring to the broader set of conditions that would fall under the neurodivergent umbrella. My grammar was off but meant to be that men are much more likely to be diagnosed with a neurodiverse condition
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 02:12 PM
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Not sure for adhd but this wiki article gives a good overview for the research with autism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_autism Though it’s true that girls are often not diagnosed or diagnosed later in life, research suggests that men are still far more likely to have autism than women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 06:08 AM
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Many more men are diagnosed as neurodivergent than women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 05:46 AM
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Ok good for you. Openly sexually fantasizing is a large range my friend. Notice someone is hot and feeling something is normal
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/23 12:58 AM
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Where are you getting that? And how does that make most women married to normal men unhappy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 09:55 PM
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Lol wtf is up with 6? Most women are unhappy with marrying someone normal because they’ve had sex with better men? Based on what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:59 PM
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Why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:41 PM
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I thought women didn’t want to be approached anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 07:45 PM
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I’m not an expert on this and I take most evopsych stuff with a grain of salt. But there’s certainly some evidence potential evolutionary benefits of women being polyandrous https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.96.18.10236 https://bmcecolevol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2148-10-20 However either way it doesn’t change the fact that many women today still notice and fantasize about other men even when in happy relationships It’s a pretty normal human thing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:37 PM
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There is a def some celebrities but mostly I’ve seen are just regular people they know in their lives. It’s a normal human thing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 05:18 PM
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Can you link a study to support this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:35 PM
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Of course it will impact it. But I don’t think girls telling him they personally wouldn’t mind is giving him false hope
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:52 AM
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I actually know a guy who has one of those bags. He has a gf and seems to be fine. And I know he’s had it since before they met Like I’m sure it’s a turnoff to plenty but I think you’d be surprised what you can get away with if you’re confident about it and treat it as no big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 08:38 AM
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I rarely see ugly men with hot women. I see a lot of couples that are matched and ugly men with average women and ugly women with average men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 06:15 AM
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I love how you just ignore all of the actual data this guy is showing you and repeat the same points over and over again One of the most extreme confirmation biases I’ve seen on here
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 04:37 AM
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They’re lying to you to seem perfect. So many of my female friends have admitted to fantasizing or noticing or being attracted to other men even when happily in a relationship or married. It’s not a gender thing. It’s a human thing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:10 AM
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Yes I did when I was single. Worked ok in the right environment. Not really much of a strategy besides getting out the second she shows any sign of not being interested as anything further is just a waste of time. If we vibe we vibe but you have to give it a few tries
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 03:01 AM
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Lol ok that makes more sense
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:07 AM
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What do you mean retarded?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 02:03 AM
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You’re kidding yourself if you don’t think women also remain attracted to other men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 01:48 AM
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I like thin/fit blonde girls and my gf is exactly that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 01:46 AM
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So you’re only with your girl as long as she provides sexual access? Does this include circumstances like temporary sickness, pregnancy, etc. where she is unable to fuck you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 01:43 AM
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It entirely depends on the length of time. Most of the time id be fine with it though but if she wants to wait like 6 months then I don’t think I’d be interested assuming I’ve just met her
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/23 01:40 AM
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Yes. And as you can see from my previous comments, I point that out. And again, when you bring two or more queries together it switches to a comparison “Numbers on the graph don't represent absolute search volume numbers, because the data is normalised and presented on a scale from 0-100, where each point on the graph is divided by the highest point, or 100. The numbers next to the search terms at the top of the graph are sums, or totals.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:42 PM
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How do you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 04:13 PM
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This was your question to me: "Why do you think there are more queries for 'Men's dating advice' than for 'Women's dating advice'?" “Now I want you to read that question very carefully because it's very specific. Please don't dodge this question” I did. And if you add “Women’s dating advice” and “Men’s dating advice” you get different results compared to “Womens dating advice” and “Mens dating advice” They are different queries as you are adding an apostrophe to make the possessive plural correc…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:54 PM
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Hard disagree with this one. I see men and women being delusional at about their dating prospects/value at about the same rate. Though it’s anecdotal so could be wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:49 PM
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You said “Men’s dating advice” and “Women’s dating advice” not Mens/womens dating advice. Those are two different things and yield different results I think you are misinterpreting the data. You are taking an instance and then assuming it is an overall truth. I’m trying to show you that this is a terrible way to view and make sense of the world as just adjusting your query changes the data drastically and contradicts the “truth” you are attempting to derive from it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:38 PM
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There isn’t though? Can you show me the trend report where this is the case? Assuming there is then I would think it has something to do with 1) men are more likely to phrase a question like that into google and call themselves men with a possessive plural. Grammatically this is incorrect. 2) men tend to be the one asking women out on first dates. But looking further this is unlikely as the query “dating advice for women” is slightly more searched compared to “dating advice for men” which contra…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:28 PM
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When you bring two or more together it switches to a comparison This gives you more info better than I can explain it https://newsinitiative.withgoogle.com/resources/lessons/google-trends-understanding-the-data/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 03:19 PM
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And yet you were fucking her
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 06:52 AM
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Yes I agree. Although it is slight. I’ve been playing around with different queries and even just fixing the grammar and you seem to get different results though. Overall stays about 50/50 with some favoring women and others favoring men Also fairly dependent on country/region Another example
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 06:48 AM
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Lmao based on what? Just querying some gendered searches and it looks like it contradicts that statement Happy to see what you can come up with https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=how%20to%20be%20a%20good%20husband,how%20to%20be%20a%20good%20wife,how%20to%20improve%20relationship%20with%20husband,how%20to%20improve%20relationship%20with%20wife&hl=en-US&hl=en&tz=420
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 06:43 AM
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That’s also explained in the article linked. Doesn’t mean nobody searched but that it’s small enough that google can’t display. If you are only showing a single query, you’re comparing against all searches ever. If you are showing two queries then you are only comparing them against each other That’s why it shows up when you are comparing two but now then you’re comparing it against all searches. Either way though the proportion is so small that it’s not being shown You can also see that when co…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:47 AM
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They don’t. The 100 is based on the one with the highest interest from searches. Remove the “Dating Advice for Women” and you’ll see it’s much more obvious that it changes. The y axis will always be 0-100 Edit: this explains it better than I can if you’d like to take a look https://newsinitiative.withgoogle.com/resources/lessons/google-trends-understanding-the-data/
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:40 AM
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If you change the phrasing of the query to others that mean roughly the same thing you get very different results That and there are different phrases that are searched much more overall also giving different results Basically it’s a form of cherry picking data Also just generally “mens dating advice” and “womens dating advice” is grammatically incorrect. Even just fixing this gives you widely different results
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:37 AM
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It’s not a numerical value of searches but rather a comparison between the two. So based on that the proportion of searches for “dating advice for men” is minuscule compared to “dating advice for women” over time Doesn’t necessarily mean nobody but it does seem like there are massive spikes in the latter which make the other periods seem tiny by comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:32 AM
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How do you explain this then? https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=Dating%20advice%20for%20women,Dating%20advice%20for%20men&hl=en-US&hl=en&tz=420
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:15 AM
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Adding another comment with this Just switching to “Dating advice for Women” and “Dating Advice for Men” gives you about equal searches. I think your query is heavily flawed Link without your original query: https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=Dating%20advice%20for%20women,Dating%20advice%20for%20men&hl=en-US&hl=en&tz=420
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:15 AM
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Not sure. It’s probably a bunch of factors. One could be that there is a massive rise in “dating advice” content for men as a break off of Andrew Tate/Manosphere/red pill type content so men may be more likely to query that exact phrase than women who tend not to have content geared toward them with that specific phrase Even then those searches are minuscule compared to the “how to get a partner” type ones
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:09 AM
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I think it’s is highly dependent on what the query is. Just looking at “how to get a boyfriend” vs “how to get a girlfriend” shows different results with the trend lines overlapping and a massive spike for “how to get a boyfriend” a few years ago. “How to get a girlfriend” is a tad more searched this past two years. But both phrases are searched much more than the ones you provided https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&q=Mens%20dating%20advice,Womens%20dating%20advice,How%20t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/23 05:00 AM
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There are some popular Chinese and Japanese dating apps where people list their salary in their bio and can filter on it Besides that you can get niche apps like Raya that cater to upper middle class/upper class And then you have boutique matchmaking services like The Bevy for wealthy people But nothing for low income people trying to date other low income people
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 11:52 PM
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3-4x a week. Positive thoughts. It’s become a social activity to some degree as I consistently workout with some friends
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 11:35 PM
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So much fucked up stuff but I especially hate when men (and women) treat the opposite gender like another subhuman species incapable of human emotion. They turn them into some evil monster Sadly I see a lot of that on this sub as well and it’s concerning
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 08:46 PM
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What was it before?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 08:41 PM
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Anyone else get more attracted to your partner over time? Like there was always that initial attraction. But after two years of dating I’ve gotten immensely more attracted to her whereas with shorter relationships like in college I’ve gotten a tad bored
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:22 PM
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I think there very much is a lack of spaces and opportunities where people can grow their social network. If you’re lucky enough to be in a social friend group it’s pretty easy to grow it over time through house parties and events. If you don’t have this you basically have to start from square one. Feels kinda like breaking into a new industry
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:17 PM
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I’m smart enough not to say that ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 07:14 PM
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My gf is naturally blond but still gets highlights and they cost like $300/session and imo it looks the exact same before and after 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/23 06:27 PM
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Raya is pretty open to regular people now though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 10:52 PM
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I agree that it’s not easy especially when it’s not in your sphere of personal experience. But that’s exactly what empathy is. The ability to relate, sympathize, and see circumstances from someone else’s point of view even when it’s outside your own personal experience. It’s not something thar is easy and some people have a greater ability to empathize than others. Yeah it’s never going to be 100% but you can’t expect that anyway given they haven’t gone through the exact same circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 08:41 PM
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That’s exactly why empathy exists. It’s the ability to understand and share feelings with another even when we don’t share the same struggles. For example my friend’s mother died and although I haven’t gone through that experience myself, I can still empathize with how they are feeling and sympathize/react accordingly
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 07:55 PM
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Based on whether or not that aspect is associated with masculinity or femininity according to the above definition
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/23 06:59 AM
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Masculinity: “a set of attributes, behaviors, and roles associated with men and boys” Femininity: “a set of attributes, behaviors, and roles associated with women and girls” Aspects meaning the attributes commonly associated with either gender
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 11:39 PM
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Based on the definitions of masculinity and femininity
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 09:44 PM
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You’re overthinking it. I’ve bought my gf sex toys a few times over our relationship and it’s done nothing but better our sex life
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 09:30 PM
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He can replicate it by using the sex toy on her during sex
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 09:29 PM
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What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 08:13 PM
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I always thought it was just aspects of masculinity or femininity that become toxic in extremes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 05:51 PM
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Because you are breaking your promise/commitment to her. You are also exposing her to potential harm. Not only will this likely cause major emotional trauma but for many women it is enough to end the marriage. Imo rightly so
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 05:06 AM
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Graduated college and moved cities. We did long distance for a bit but it was too hard One broke up with me because I wasn’t serious enough and she was probably right And another ended things because basically I wasn’t able or willing to be a good bf
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/23 03:23 AM
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Sure but it causes feminism as a movement to look really bad. Now late portions of the population view feminism as evil due in part to a minority of crazy and unhinged feminists
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 08:25 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 07:20 PM
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And I hard disagree. I love my gf. I would never do anything selfish that would cause her great harm because of that love. Imo it’s not true love of a partner unless you’re willing to give up selfish desires for their well-being. We are just arguing definitions at this point and to “define love” is something we could argue about for a hundred years To equate love of a life partner to love of a food is disingenuous
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 06:50 PM
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I’ve only ever seen things like “my date ripped his pants at dinner” or something kinda funny
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 04:26 PM
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Hell yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:53 PM
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Love of a food and love of a wife are two entirely different things
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/23 02:49 PM
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It is health wise. But there are other factors in play. I think high cost of living plays a part in people delaying having children
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:07 PM
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Yes. I’m not interested in dating women who don’t make a certain amount. My gf salary is similar to my own and it’s a huge plus
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/23 04:05 PM
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Depends on the culture and time period. For example in Mauritania girls are force fed until they become obese because that is considered to be beautiful https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leblouh#:~:text=Leblouh%20(often%20referred%20to%20using,cups%20of%20pure%20animal%20fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:58 PM
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?? What’s what who thinks?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:53 PM
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What?? They have to interest me, carry on a conversation, our personalities have to match, etc. Just because they show up doesn’t guarantee I’d ask them out for a second date You seem to think that if a girl like a guy, she just have to look reasonably pretty and he’ll want to date her
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:49 PM
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Even beauty standards have changed drastically over time and by culture
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:32 PM
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How do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:30 PM
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Then yeah women have some burden of performance. I’ve been on many dates with a girl where convo didn’t flow, I didn’t like how she viewed the world, she didn’t look as pretty as her pictures, etc. I declined to ask her out again or agree to a second date when they asked There is def more burden placed on men to ask, plan and execute a first date though which is annoying I’ll give you that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 06:13 PM
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What do you mean by burden of performance?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:35 PM
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I don’t think the government should be able to force an abortion. I don’t think the woman should get any parental rights And the man can choose to keep or give up the resulting child
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:29 PM
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Yes. My ex has two of my hoodies that I never got back
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:26 PM
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I’m late twenties. Most attractive women to me rn are probably 25-32
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 04:08 PM
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If my wife spoke to me like that I would 100% divorce her. If I had access to video evidence I would turn it over to my lawyer as one does in a divorce proceeding. Not doing so is frankly stupid
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:32 AM
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Yeah just go ahead and date other burners. I’m not in the community myself but a lot of my wider circle is and they all are dating around themselves. My one friend is planning on proposing to his gf at burning man this year and they met through mutual burner friends
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:30 AM
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It was a security camera! By that logic he recorded her as well! He’s just as likely to have set up or purchase the camera. I have a security camera out my front window. My friend has one in his backyard. I have a bajillion recordings of people coming and going and random neighbor interactions because of it. There’s nothing wrong with that
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:20 AM
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You are never going to get the majority of women to like you. If you’re into a niche subculture then yeah that might hurt your chances with the average woman, but probably help your chances with other women in that same subculture. The biggest example I can think of that I’ve seen is the burning man crowd in SF. I’ve heard girls and guys say that burners are a walking red flag, but people in the community date and are most successful among themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 05:06 AM
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It was caught on camera. She likely didn’t even set up the camera or had any intention at the time of using that video in a divorce case two years after the fact I don’t get why you’re so interested in this divorce. If my wife spoke to me like that I would 100% divorce her. If I happened to find video evidence of it then I 100% would turn that over to my lawyer
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:53 AM
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She didn’t record him. The fight was picked up by an outdoor security camera. Very different things
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/23 03:09 AM
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If my wife is working then I’m not going to lose half my stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:10 PM
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No that sounds miserable. I want a wife that works but once we are married everything goes together. I don’t want to spend the time and energy making sure everything is exactly fair
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 02:05 AM
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No. I’m not interested in that kind of relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/23 12:23 AM
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This is exactly how I would put it The best and most successful relationships I’ve witnessed/experienced have been between equals and I wouldn’t want it any other way
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 03:44 PM
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I think you may have a problem friend
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 01:25 AM
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Straight up just mental illness
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:35 AM
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Not all that important depending on what you want in life. I think a lot of people can be perfectly happy single
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/23 12:34 AM
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Yes at some point you need to just be a man about it and move on. Expressing outward disgust about reasonable bodily functions is childish When my little brother was in diapers and needed to be changed I dealt with it. When my friend and I were traveling in SE Asia and they got stomach issues from eating something and let me know I didn’t go “eww that’s so gross” i figured it out and got them what they needed Now if some guy starts describing his bodily functions in grotesque detail just because…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 11:53 PM
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Lol where? Saying it’s gross and outwardly expressing disgust is just plain childish behavior. If your girl starts her period you’re not going to tell her how gross it is. You’re going to be a man and get her what she needs to take care of it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 11:27 PM
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I am a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:33 PM
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It’s gross but I don’t audibly say “ew gross” whenever someone says they need to use the restroom
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:30 PM
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Pissing is a normal bodily function and it would be weird if somebody expressed obvious disgust about it. Same thing with periods
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:18 PM
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You gotta keep taking the initiative until it sticks unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 10:15 PM
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No. She has every right to be aware and involved in shared finances
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/23 06:44 AM
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It’s more complicated. Like if I met a girl at a party and tried to hook up that night, I’m not thinking about her being a gf or not. I’m just trying to get laid and maybe after if we vibe there could be more In college I thought a tad more like that. Like when I’d meet a girl but I’m not really interested in a relationship or specifically not interested in a relationship with her then I would at least try to fuck real quick with no real plans of anything else I grew out of that pretty quickly a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 03:24 PM
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It’s oversimplified. Cost of living varies widely depending on where you are in the US. My 2 bedroom apartment in a city is more than my aunt’s 4 bedroom house in another state
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 05:33 AM
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As a way to survive but that’s it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 02:03 AM
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Ah yes. Let’s take this one story that was unique and interesting enough to warrant an article in the NYT as proof that ALL women are evil monsters
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/23 02:03 AM
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I’ve had the most success meeting women through friends for relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 10:13 PM
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I took the train this morning and saw an overweight unattractive man with an average girl. But most couples I see in real life are fairly evenly matched
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/23 08:03 PM
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Yeah and this severely disabled man gets a hot wife: https://www.today.com/series/things-i-wish-i-knew/squirmy-grubs-shane-burcaw-hannah-open-about-their-relationship-t148377 See? I can cherry pick too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 10:39 PM
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Marry a tall girl so your kids can be successful
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 09:01 PM
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Conferences actually suck though
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 08:45 PM
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Yeah I stand by my statement. The girl in that picture cannot easily get 8s&9s even for just casual. If you can’t get interest from any 3s then you probably aren’t a 7
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 08:36 PM
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This experience is only that of a minority of guys. Not most. And it’s also a recipe for misery
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 07:16 PM
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Also just basic etiquette to include the source in the article you’re posting anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 06:06 PM
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Last month when I met up with my family for a little vacation
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 01:29 PM
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Can you give me an example of a female 3 then? Because I know for a fact that’s incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 01:09 PM
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I did just fine when I was single
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:39 AM
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Haha no problem man
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 04:08 AM
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That’s not what he’s saying there Look I used to be a bit of a JP fan back in the day but takes like this show me he’s gone off the rails
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:47 AM
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How do you feel about his comments here? https://twitter.com/thebadstats/status/1625249621168779264?s=46&t=6NX3B9GyFK-_sByXlTtbLg
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:28 AM
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What do you think of his take here? https://twitter.com/thebadstats/status/1625249621168779264?s=46&t=6NX3B9GyFK-_sByXlTtbLg
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 03:27 AM
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It’s fine but I think it would be a little weird to ask on a first date
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 02:56 AM
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Well I’m proud of you for ending it. That’s not an easy thing to do even if the relationship is toxic
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 02:03 AM
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Hey you should 100% get out of the relationship if she’s consistently treating you like that. It’s not the norm and it will likely only get worse
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 01:57 AM
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I had a friend in college who had a childhood gf that went to the same university. She was incredibly attractive to the point that I’d get slightly nervous being around her. I never made a move though as she was my friend’s girl
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/23 12:52 AM
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Any evidence for this? I have never posted a single comment that was hateful towards men. A weird claim to make from you considering I’m a man myself You’re the one claiming men are more self conscious than women. One other user refuted you with an actual study and you ignored her and then claimed you were too busy to show her studies yourself If you can’t back up your claims you aren’t prepared to have a reasonable good faith debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:53 PM
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You realize your podcasts are anecdotal and not a replacement for actual peer reviewed research right? And yet you cling to those and refuse to offer any actual evidence for your claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:34 PM
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How am I delusional? Study after study finds men to have more self esteem than women on average. You’re talking out of your ass and the second somebody challenges that you shut down
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:32 PM
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No I’m talking about the average
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:20 PM
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Men are more self centered and narcissistic than women are on average. They tend to have higher self esteem as well so there goes that theory
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:06 PM
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Ok so two things here: 1. Many people on dating apps aren’t actually active, bots, etc. 2. If you can’t get any matches from a 3 and above, you’re probably not a 7
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 11:03 PM
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Yeah 60% are single. Doesn’t mean 30% are incels
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:37 PM
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Where the fuck are you getting the idea that a third of men under thirty are incels?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/23 09:24 PM
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The one I remember the most just had old pictures
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/23 12:50 AM
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Not particularly. One just texted a ton and seemed overly attentive. It’s just kind of annoying when you only just met the person One girl just wouldn’t let the date end and even though I liked her at the beginning of the date, by the end of it I was getting annoyed But those are really the only two where that’s happened on the first date Most of the time it’s after a few dates and they start pushing a committed relationship way too early. It’s enough for me to want to walk away
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:41 PM
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Yeah. It was enough of a turnoff to make a difference in a few instances
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:29 PM
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Ones that I remember: - She didn’t look like her picture - Came on really strong - Didn’t feel much of a spark. Date felt like more of an interview - She was super late and didn’t apologize or even give an excuse - Found out she still lives at home with her parents - She had a cat and I’m allergic Most common was just the lack of a spark though. Sometimes you feel it but most of the time you don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:50 PM
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Yeah I have an old coworker/friend where that was the case. Both young and healthy and they always assumed it was her but turns out his sperm count was way low so they were struggling
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:12 PM
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That’s the shitty thing though. Male fertility is highly correlated with environmental factors and modern living will have a massive impact on your fertility in addition to just age. Sperm counts have declined by 52.4 percent between 1973 and 2011 and more and more men are struggling with their fertility. You may be “healthy” but little things like drinking from plastic water bottles, using non stick pans, and just existing in the modern world are constantly bombarding you with endocrine disrupt…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:51 PM
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Lol in 1700s 1 in 5 women in London were prostitutes. Hoe behavior ain’t new But seriously, men and women aren’t all the different. If you take a man and put him under the same market conditions as a woman you’re likely to get the same outcome. We are all just people reacting to society and the overall dating market at large
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:14 PM
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Oh boy are you in for a rude awakening friend. I have a buddy out here in SF that runs a fertility clinic. He’s told me over half the couples that come in with issues are because of the guy. Im late twenties but some of my early thirties friends are freezing their sperm
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 06:07 PM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 10:08 AM
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Yeah. Family is important to me and I want a relationship with someone who feels the same way. I wouldn’t look down on them. But I prefer dating someone with a good relationship with their parents and siblings
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:23 AM
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Ok what’s the cutoff then according to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 09:02 AM
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I mean I’m in my late twenties now…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 07:30 AM
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I wouldn’t say passport bros always go because they perceive foreign women to be higher quality wives. Many go simply because they can’t compete in their local market
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 05:49 AM
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I can’t answer that. But according to the US census in 2011: “Among the mixed-nativity married-couple households — households with one native-born and one foreign-born spouse — the foreign-born spouse was more likely to be the wife (55 percent) than the husband (45 percent).” So it seems like it’s pretty close. Doesn’t really show the nationality breakdown though further but does note that most foreign-born spouses to natives are from Latin America followed by Europe and then Asia. But the data …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 05:26 AM
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Yeah wealthy bachelors, but you don’t have to be wealthy to go to many eastern countries. So I’d assume that plays a part in why many more people go to the east to find wives vs the other way around. It’s more attainable for middle class men and their dollar goes further over there. I’d also bet money that most of the foreign tourists to NYC are from western counties where visa requirements are lax and cost of living is also relatively high Edit: the webpage you linked “According to NYC & Compan…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 05:05 AM
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It’s much more difficult to come to the west for dating/marriage than it is to go the other way. Primarily due to visa and cost related issues
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:50 AM
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Sorry I assumed it was obvious. As for the first question, many of the “games” include some basic dating etiquette. This can include the following: - Sending a follow-up text after the date if you’re interested in going on another - Not overloading a first date with constant texts/attention as to not come off overbearing/playing a little hard to get - Avoiding uncomfortable topics on a first date like overly sexual jokes, oversharing intimate details, talking about your ex, etc. - Putting your b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 04:48 AM
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Ok and? What does that have to do with anything?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/23 01:29 AM
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Yes it’s real. It just means behaviors associated with masculinity or femininity that are harmful
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 11:39 PM
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I actually kind of agree with you here. So many people view the other gender like they’re a different species
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:57 PM
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Yeah I’m just more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt as some of them are so young
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 10:23 PM
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That’s the part where you take it too far. But little things in the beginning can be useful. Like texting someone a million times a day or being overly eager can be a bit of a turnoff when you start out.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:42 PM
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Because, frankly, they get results. But it’s a double edged sword. Play too many games and you’ll likely end up regretting it
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 09:24 PM
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I didn’t even kiss a girl until I was 18. It has had no impact on my dating life as an adult However I think it’s important for teens to learn to socialize and date. I still would ask girls to dances and would go on group dates occasionally with friends. None of it was romantic though. Most valuable imo was having a mixed friend group
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/23 03:20 AM
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Did you not see the sections about the US? And these are only notable cases. It varies by state but states like California, Alabama, Michigan, Tennessee and more have laws outlawing rape by deception
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 08:01 PM
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Yep! Here is a wiki page that notes some notable cases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception One notable is a guy who lied about being a neurosurgeon to get a girl to sleep with him. Another lied about being Jewish and single when he was actually married. One was a girl that pretended to be a guy. The California one is particularly crazy
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:22 PM
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Yeah I agree that this case specifically sets a messed up precedent. Just pointing out that it’s a thing cause then it gets a little hairy But the other cases are all over the place. The one in California with the fake doctor is particularly wtf
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 05:19 PM
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I don’t know if STDs are prosecuted under that. I think things like knowingly spreading AIDS is a different conviction. But if you didn’t know you had something and spread it then it wouldn’t be deception This provides a good overview of some past cases. One involved a man lying that he was a neurosurgeon to get a women to sleep with him and fell under rape by deception https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_by_deception
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:36 PM
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Ok but even if the mother has one kid by herself doesn’t mean she will be single forever or is unable to find another coparent. Also single parent includes parents who get divorced after the birth of the child. My best friend grew up in a single parent home and turned out great. Should he have been aborted? How about we just make all men get vasectomies at puberty so they can’t get anyone pregnant? They can have it reversed once they get married and decide to have kids. From a utilitarian perspe…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:12 PM
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Ok and how about the psychological implications? Some women attempt suicide and have other major mental issues after an abortion. It just should never be forced on anyone
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:04 PM
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Neither is birth control. And about the abortion pill, plenty of women experience side effects and long term complications from that as well. Both physical and mental. So no. That’s not ok either
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:58 PM
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Or you could just wear a condom?? How are those two things related? Also where are you getting 2 week discomfort? It can have long term implications and completely affected my gfs mood for months
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:54 PM
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Just go on reveddit. I deleted nothing. You can’t seem to comprehend that rape by deception is a thing you can be convicted of
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:51 PM
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I deleted nothing. You’re making things up
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:48 PM
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No. Even the lower dose stuff (idk the term) can cause pretty intense side effects for some women. It’s a minority for sure. Also there are just longer term implications of being a birth control for long periods of time My gf doesn’t want to take it because of how it makes her feel. That’s a good enough reason not to
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:47 PM
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I did. It’s not there
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:44 PM
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Where did I even say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:42 PM
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Trying to talk to some guy here who doesn’t believe rape by deception exists. It’s not that he doesn’t agree with it. He just doesn’t seem to believe anyone has ever been convicted of it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:27 PM
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And I was saying “so many guys here” complain about that very situation
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:24 PM
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Complaining literally means to express dissatisfaction with something. They are expressing dissatisfaction “when women sit around on the sidelines while he’s putting in the work and then getting with him after”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:20 PM
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So many guys here say they don’t care about a woman’s career or how much money she makes and then complain about shit like this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:09 PM
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I really liked Lisbon because it has a bit of everything
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:54 PM
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Just get Invisalign
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 06:36 AM
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Wtf did I just read
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 04:30 AM
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Any woman? You really want to make that claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 03:22 AM
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Again, the video proves that it’s more difficult than just going out to some random bar and automatically making friends
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:34 AM
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I mean to each their own but I’d choose to coke back as a man if given that choice
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:33 AM
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Would you honestly rather be born a girl? I would not trade places with my sister
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:17 AM
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You’re moving the goal posts friend. This is a completely contradiction of the paragraph before.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:16 AM
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Eventually. We’ve been dating for a long time but she shares an apartment with her little sister rn. I live only a 10 min walk away so the current situation is working well. For about 4 months of the year we work remotely and live together in airbnbs around the world
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 02:04 AM
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I don’t think it’s that easy: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10447419/amp/Woman-left-floods-tears-trying-herself.html
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:25 AM
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We both make over 200k each but I do make about 20-30k more than she does We don’t live together but traveling and date costs end up coming out pretty equally every month
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/23 01:23 AM
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Mostly yeah but it depends. Like if they have an ex spouse they share kids with or an ex that it’s in their friend circle with healthy boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/23 12:15 AM
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How is it different then? I have relatives who are actually scared for black people based on what they see in media and one distant family member being robbed. It’s a fucked up way of thinking It’s perfectly acceptable to be wary of strangers and make smart decisions based on past experiences. But it’s fucked up generalize like that and will limit your own life.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:54 PM
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Yeah that’s also fucked up. I also think it’s fucked up when middle class white ladies get so scared of any black person ever because they only watch Fox News or some shit. It doesn’t excuse that way of thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 11:10 PM
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It is a fucked up way to think though. It’s completely limiting
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 10:56 PM
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As a man, I absolutely do care. Fun times
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/23 03:35 PM
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You’re changing the definition of pick-me. People hate pick-Ned BECAUSE they put others down to make themselves look better by comparison Girls saying they aren’t like other girls and guys saying they’re the only nice guy and all the other guys are jerks
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/23 07:12 PM
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That hasn’t been my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 10:06 PM
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I mean as a man, I’d prefer someone to be apathetic to me rather than downright hate me for my gender. In extreme cases you get hateful people going on killing sprees or just generally out of their way to harm people they hate I’m half Asian and I used to get some kids follow me home in middle school making fun and saying racial slurs. Once one of those kids actually head butted me in the halls. Didn’t break my nose but it bled for what felt like forever. I’d much rather they were apathetic rath…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 09:05 PM
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No just not my thing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:45 PM
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Yeah it should be legal to get one in France
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:07 PM
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I know the study you got that from and it’s not even a real study but rather a culmination of paternity testing mostly in the 1950s and 1980s. They are also based on data from couples the request paternity testing. So major selection bias More recent numbers are .2% in the UK
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 04:01 AM
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It’s not though. It’s extremely rare
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:49 AM
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For the last time: YOU CAN JUST GET A PATERNITY TEST YOURSELF. There is legitimately no reason to mandate it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 03:46 AM
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She’s hotter than me imo but I’d say we are still evenly matched
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/23 01:28 AM
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She’s talking about status not skill set. The high school cheer captain is the status equivalent of the high school football captain. Obviously this changes post college when professional football players are leaps and bounds ahead of their cheerleader counterparts
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:19 PM
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These men are only a minority but still prevalent in my experience. You get the same with women too. Girls who are maybe a 6 on a good day convinced that they’ll bag a millionaire
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 11:16 PM
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Yeah and I think you should have every opportunity to raise your kids how you see fit. I just don’t think there’s a “right” way. I have plenty of childhood friends who had stay at home moms. Some did great. Others ended up having pretty terrible life outcomes. It entirely depends on the family and their circumstances. I personally am grateful we had access to a good daycare and after school programs as I really think it made me such a socially adept person very young
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 10:03 PM
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Yeah take it or leave it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 08:33 PM
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He’s the one that’s the most overt about it but I’ve seen plenty of guys like this since college. It’s pretty normal. Just like all the girls who are like a 6 and think they can bag a millionaire Delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 08:29 PM
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“All my friends with girlfriends” So the subset of my friend group with girlfriends. I’d say it’s about 50/50 as I’m in my late twenties and more and more of my friends are coupling up
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 08:28 PM
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Well it’s old so there’s that
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 07:00 PM
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It entirely depends on the individual family and what works for them. It’s just silly to say you want a “traditional” marriage when it’s “traditional when?” Because for the vast majority of history women worked and childcare was limited I was raised by a working mom and I turned out great. Daycare works wonders for a lot of kids especially through early socialization with their peers. I’d love to have the forest school model like they do in Denmark more widely available.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:58 PM
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Can you give me an example of what you think a 4 and a 5 is?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 06:03 PM
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How so? It’s the most accurate one I’ve seen
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:44 PM
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Yeah that def plays a role. However considering 45% of women in Brazil are overweight I’d say average there is slightly on the heavier side as well I think most people overinflate what “average” is because we usually see people on T.V. and social media that are consistently above average. Your perception gets messed up. But again it’s location specific. Like the whole LA 6 is a Ohio 9 thing. It’s never going to be an exact science
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:43 PM
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Yeah I think personal preference plays a role
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:26 PM
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She’s unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:17 PM
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I think there’s a guy one somewhere too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:08 PM
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Below average is unattractive though. You can’t be below average and not be unattractive. Or at least I have yet to see an example
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:07 PM
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Hard disagree there friend. 5s are accurate
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 05:06 PM
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4 is unattractive imo. But it’s the most accurate chart I’ve seen thus far. You have to remember it’s a bell curve and thus 5 is the largest category
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:45 PM
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All my friends with girlfriends are with girls in their league or maybe .5 point above and below (myself included) I have one friend who is completely delusional and keeps going for 9/10s when he’s nowhere near that himself. Won’t settle for anything else and then complains how “all women are ____” it’s fucking annoying This is anecdotal but the men I see really struggling tend to be below average themselves or delusional to what their own league is. (Or mental illness/neurodivergent but that’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:41 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/s3KV8.jpg Here ya go
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 04:37 PM
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Historically “caring for children” was strapping them to your back as you worked the fields or just leaving them somewhere for hours at a time. Traditional women worked and when children were old enough they were largely left to completely fend for themselves and work in the house/field alongside their parents
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:10 PM
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Don’t listen to that guy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/23 03:04 PM
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I agree. Truth is somewhere in the middle. But people also take evopsych wayyy to far claiming it is explains everything without any test Ike hypothesis. Basically if your theory is infallible you’re in conspiracy territory
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 08:32 PM
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Most of it is because the people who use evopsych in arguments online have no idea what they’re talking about and make the whole field look incredibly stupid Also it’s incredibly broad and a large portion of the claims made by interested parties are conspiracy theory level garbage
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:53 PM
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What did he do?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:44 PM
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I’m a man and I can’t even truly sympathize with that. You’re talking about a minority of people
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:43 PM
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Bored working from home so looking through the local “are we dating the same guy” Facebook page using my gf’s fb and omg some of these women are fucking stupid Whole thread on there about some girl’s bf being sentenced to years in prison and she’s looking for support and a bunch of girls in the comments talking about their husbands being locked up for 20 years and shit. Like why are you staying with someone who is going to prison??? If my gf did something serious enough to be sentenced to years …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:37 PM
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It’s fine. But I think timelines are weird. I’d be more open to the idea if someone was waiting for a committed relationship or something rather than an arbitrary time
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:20 PM
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Depends what you mean by funny. Most girls I know have said an actually funny joke or made me laugh from time to time. But I wouldn’t say they were “funny” But I think when women say they want a funny guy the bar is pretty low
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 07:11 PM
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It’s not safe. Also not safe for a guy to get black out drunk in front of anyone. Just don’t do it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/23 04:44 PM
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I disagree heavily with the idea that only people from a racial group can accurately represent that group politically
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 11:18 PM
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Can’t speak for most men but the ones worth their salt would choose the 7
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 09:04 PM
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What are you talking about? There’s been plenty of studies that prove the heritability of IQ. So a high proportion of the variation in IQ is attributed to generic factors https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/twin-research-and-human-genetics/article/wilson-effect-the-increase-in-heritability-of-iq-with-age/FF406CC4CF286D78AF72C9E7EF9B5E3F https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/neu.10160
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 08:48 PM
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I don’t want dumb kids so I 100% care
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 07:58 PM
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I mean I’ve had that before and I know my friends have. Some girl you think is kinda cool but then she starts texting you every day and then it just gets annoying and the interest is gone. One girl a few years ago just kept bringing up us going exclusive. I was interested in her during the first three dates but it was such a turnoff that I didn’t ask her out on a forth
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:22 AM
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You’ve never lost interest because a girl was too available/interested too fast? It’s a pretty normal human reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/23 12:11 AM
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My gf has a post or two from vacations in a bikini. Nothing overtly sexual. The most recent one is us together on a paddle board. I have no issues with it but to each their own
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 08:27 PM
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Well my one friend admitted to cheating repeatedly and the post was accusing him of cheating so I know that one is true The other one I can’t be 100% sure but I’d put money on it being true
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:16 AM
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Look, most people you go out with won’t be a match. If 90% don’t put in effort that’s pretty much expected. Frankly you shouldn’t be wasting energy on the 90% anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:05 AM
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The only two posts that I’ve seen that involve people I know both seem to be true Like I’m sure people lie, but not all seem to be lies
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 06:02 AM
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I think part of the reason for the groups is to help women pick better men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:47 AM
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I agree. In an ideal world people who do shitty things would be held accountable. I don’t think these groups are an answer but there’s definitely a need for something
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:42 AM
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I have one friend who was on it. He was upset but to be fair the girl posted that he was cheating on his gf and he definitely was cheating on his gf I have a weird opinion of those though. Had my gf join and scrolled through once. Seemed relatively tame but I didn’t spend much time. One girl I know went on a date with a guy and randomly blacked out after one drink and ended up in bed with him. She was uncomfortable about it and it led to some panic attacks but that’s it. Same guy got posted from…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 05:14 AM
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Talking about the chronically single ones
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 02:03 AM
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I work with these engineers. Many would make terrible partners
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/23 12:55 AM
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My gf is very independent and our relationship works great. She respects me and my work and I do the same for her. I’ve dated plenty of women that were independent and never experienced a lack of respect except for one but got the fuck away from her fast. Alternatively I have a friend who consistently goes for young barista type girls with daddy issues. They rely on him pretty heavily financially but many still try to treat him like shit or take it for granted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 07:23 PM
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I think this is pretty well known. Fathers want much more independent daughters than wives. This is because they see their daughter as an extension of themselves while unfortunately many people today are only looking for a partner that will serve them. (Both men and women included in the second point) https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2015/05/09/men-value-independence-in-their-daughters-more-than-their-wives/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 03:57 PM
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Nope. I planned and paid for the first few dates (though she usually offered to split) and put more effort in early in the relationship as she was working a very demanding job and making less money Casual dates are the most frequent followed by dinner dates and then more adventurous dates and trips
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:57 AM
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My gf puts a ton more work into planning vacations and adventure/active dates than I do. I’m a bit of a foodie so I’m usually the one planning dinner dates. For more casual dates/day to day stuff, she’s the one who puts in the effort of coordinating but that’s like a walk in the park, picnic at the beach, going to the gym together, or just meeting for coffee during the workday We go back and forth paying and it more or less equals out by the end. On big trips we both pay for our own ways now tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 06:28 AM
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Entirely depends on the woman/man. At some point we all age past our prime. Some people squandered their prime with bad lifestyle choices and thus may have a late stage “glow up” though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/23 01:20 AM
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So you’re saying you only shamed the ones you knew about? Again it’s the same thing. And it’s not like I think all women do this just like I’m sure not ALL men do it as well
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:46 PM
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Can it not be both? If a guy friend fucks an ugly girl we give him shit for a while. One friend was dating a hyper religious chick for a while. Friends constantly gave him shit for it to the point he broke up with her and started seeing someone else. One memory that comes up was from college when a roommate set a date up with a girl from tinder. We asked to see her pics and he reluctantly showed us and she wasn’t cute. Guys started snickering and he ended up canceling the date. More recently a g…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:42 PM
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You don’t think men do this too? I’ve personally shamed some of my friends for fucking an ugly girl. Especially in our youth. Was it morally ok? Probs not. Is it still super common among men? Absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 11:14 PM
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Respect is earned and men today are too often checking out and doing nothing to earn it. Women needing men wouldn’t make them respect us. Rather just cling to the best men they could find like a life raft to avoid poverty. Now men and women come together with mutual respect that is earned on both sides and I personally greatly prefer that dynamic. Problem is that a large proportion of men and women are unwilling to put in the work necessary to get there and then complain on the internet
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 10:37 PM
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I absolutely care and many of my friends do as well so speak for yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 09:11 PM
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I think one can be bother career and family oriented over their lifetime. For example I’m was much more career focused in my early twenties when it matters more and mid twenties when I tried to do a startup than I am now. I’d say now I’m both as I make sure I do well in my job to position myself for future opportunities but actively make choices to set myself up to have a family one day. My gf worked in consulting fresh out of college at a top firm so it consumed more of her life and she knew sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:51 PM
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This 100%. What people think is “traditional” is just what happened for a very brief period of history in the 1950s/60s which was in fact pretty modern in the grand scheme of things
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 08:22 PM
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Not about intent. They are just different things
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 06:12 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:45 PM
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I find this to be largely a myth in my own experience. Most women I know with really great careers are still family-oriented. The “boss babe” is largely a ticktock/MLM trend rather than a real life phenomenon You see the same in men. Most of my coworkers are not these hyper masculine, narcissistic, career men. We all are fairly successful engineers with great jobs and lower hours who all have a diverse set of hobbies outside of work. Many are married and prioritize their families. My gf works in…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:40 PM
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Some still do yes. In the past people would often choose to become a monk/nun/priest because the church commanded a lot of power and respect. It’s like choosing a career. Women in particular would choose this as a way to live without marriage and pursue other passions. One famous example bing Maria Gaetana Agnesi who was born into an extremely wealth Italian family and a mathematical genius. Another being Juana la Cruz who also chose to enter a convent in order to continue her studies rather tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:32 PM
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Religiously masterbation was regarded as a breach of celibacy. But almost all religions had some group of men and women that swore oaths of celibacy and lived their lives like this. Do I think all were successful? No. But I’d bet that a good chunk were and still lived happy lives
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 05:10 PM
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I don’t think a lot were miserable. And depends on the time. Now they are few and far between but religion has lost power and gone out of fashion. Historically there were a lot though
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:59 PM
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Well yeah but I’m assuming some get through it without molesting children
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:38 PM
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Don’t monks and nuns do exactly this?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:32 PM
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Yeah but even taking two people who “want a traditional relationship”, chances are they will disagree about what that exactly means People want an easy out instead of actually communicating their wants and expectations in a relationship. Imo if you can’t explicitly articulate that or don’t even know what you want, you aren’t ready to get into a relationship in the first place. You need to figure that out during the dating phase and even then circumstances change and life happens which requires s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 04:22 PM
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I think it’s little dumb because it’s like “traditional when?” Marriage relationships have changed a lot over time and by culture. By that sense even 1950/60 nuclear family type of relationships is incredibly modern
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/23 03:44 PM
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Do you guys think it’s socially acceptable to enter a store with a coffee? Or should you throw it away prior?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 07:23 PM
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🙄🙄🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 06:06 PM
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Perhaps. It’s an association but I’ve seen a few studies that controlled for underlying conditions like diabetes, cancer and high blood pressure and got the same results as well 🤷‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 05:27 PM
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Married men live longer so there goes that theory
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:01 PM
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I see this so much from the guy side as well. Many people are just straight up delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:58 PM
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I’m a dude. And you’re reading wayyy too much into it Your question makes no sense to my point. Obvious men and women have pros and cons to dating. Would you like to be a man but also with all the advantages women get? Of course you’d say yes It’s the same if you ask a woman, would you like to be a woman but with all the advantages men get? They’d likely say yes as well
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:39 PM
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That’s not your DNA data. That’s your family tree. FamiluSearch does something similar but no actual DNA is involved
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 03:34 PM
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Cost is more than just financial. You’re taking time and resources to do it for everyone when it’s already readily available to those who need it. There’s a societal cost from inevitable false negatives when you test millions of kids every year I disagree that the financial cost is irrelevant though
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:42 AM
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My little brother would sometimes complain about his homework in elementary school. I was in college and I knew elementary school is so much easier, but I’m not getting upset that he’s complaining. That’s all he knows and there are some shitty things about being a kid. Just because someone has life easier doesn’t mean their complaints arent valid. There are likely thousands of people on this plane that have life so much harder than you, but you’re still allowed to complain. It’s perfectly reason…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 04:12 AM
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Then is it really all that much easier? I prefer to be a man too. And yeah women have some stuff easier, but I’ve got easier things in my life so I’m going to stick to being a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/23 12:30 AM
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But it’s not there though. Companies like 23 and me have strict limits on how long they keep your data. Not to mention those that give up their samples do so completely voluntarily rather than forcing everyone to Only thing we have resembling a database is CODIS and there are strict rules for what data can be kept there
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:48 PM
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“Tell me you don’t know how the medical system works without telling me you don’t know how the medical system works”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:35 PM
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?? Over half of adults are married
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 11:34 PM
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Depends on largely where you live and so do men
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:47 PM
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Look at the comment I originally responded to Most women and men get into long term relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 07:04 PM
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Op is talking about average women in actual relationships. Not casual
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:54 PM
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I’m a man but enlighten me. Unless it’s all this top 10% of men are in relationships with all the women bs
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:49 PM
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So 4%? Can you link those estimates for me?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:33 PM
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And if she doesn’t have contact with the man? Or it was a drunken hookup with a stranger? If she names any of those men then they are able to just get a dna test themselves. No need to make it mandatory
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:25 PM
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It’s not 30% of men. Learn how statistics work
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:13 PM
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How are you going to find out who the baby’s father is when nobody is volunteering their DNA? You’d have to test it against everyone The original point made was that it could pay for itself if you could ensure every time that you’d find out who the baby’s father was with a nationwide database
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 06:11 PM
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You cool with a nationwide male DNA database then?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:49 PM
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Well it seems a hospital pregnancy test is about $500-1000 depending on where you go. It will need to be administered by a medical provider in order to be legally permissible So we are looking at at least ~$1.9billion a year in the US. For an issue that impacts such a small number of people and is already readily available for them to test themselves, then it’s not worth it Not to mention the fallout of any sort of false negative you’d get. It’s rare but if you’re testing millions of babies a ye…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:41 PM
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You don’t need to. It’s entirely your choice
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:27 PM
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Because the vast majority of people don’t need it. I’d rather not waste financial and medical resources on something that’s already readily available to those that request it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:26 PM
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Then you can ask her for a paternity test. Or you can just wait But you don’t have any rights to the baby until after it is born either way
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:24 PM
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If it was mandatory they’d likely do it after birth. Before would be much more expensive if anything https://dnatesting.com/pros-and-cons-of-a-prenatal-paternity-test/ Why would it be better to take it before?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 05:01 PM
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Your partner doesn’t need to even know
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:49 PM
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I’ve got some moral hang ups with a nationwide dna database but that’s just me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:48 PM
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Nope. I’m happy the way things are
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:33 PM
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Skin complexion seems like it would be a pretty easy fix to me. Hand stuff is obvious because that’s where most people first start to show age. Rarely do women/men put sunscreen on the backs of their hands
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:32 PM
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Would you switch places with a woman if you had a chance?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:23 PM
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Wouldn’t that suggest that men are also in and out of relationships? It takes two to tango and the math ain’t mathing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:03 PM
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I agree with most everything you wrote. How we you can’t compare male and female circumcision. Very different things there though both wrong imo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:31 PM
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No. Parents can already test their kids if they are worried and you can go through a legal route to test if you think you may be the father but not allowed rights. I don’t like the idea of making something stupid mandatory and forcing the cost of medical testing onto everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 03:30 PM
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I disagree that anything less and the male life is so much harder. I have two little sisters for reference and I’d say my own life is much easier than theirs I think dating is easier for women but overall life is a toss up
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:57 PM
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Ooo hard disagree there. Depends entirely on the girl and chemistry
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:56 PM
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Sure but id bet a majority would judge pretty harshly
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 02:55 PM
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Depends on your definition of high value but I don’t think I’ve had any major struggles Past relationships primarily ended due to circumstances or us just drifting apart. As I continued to get to know one ex I realized we were compatible in the long run so ended it My current gf is certainly high value in my eyes and things have been going well so far
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:31 AM
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I don’t know about you, but I’m not breaking up with my gf for some other random girl so we know that’s incorrect
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 04:25 AM
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I don’t think the majority of attractive women use OF or even make millions when they do. Plus you basically become a social pariah for partaking. More importantly, the questions was about DATING not making money
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 01:00 AM
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It’s better for very attractive men than for attractive women imo. After that I’d say it leans towards women for the most part depending on what you’re measuring against but primarily because men are simps and it seems a lot of women are cool with just checking out of dating entirely
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/23 12:22 AM
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Nah. Just not my type. If she has a phase at 18 for like a month then maybe. I don’t see anything wrong with a high body count myself as long as it’s not 100+ or something. But I don’t really want to date a girl who was on OF
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 06:57 PM
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lol now that I think about it, it’s always the middle management that terrible to be around
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 05:51 PM
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Guess so
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 04:24 PM
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??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 04:38 AM
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With a limited number of men though. Most people don’t want relationships with most people
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 03:28 AM
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Well for starters. I prefer a girl who is shorter and weaker than me. I value looks a lot more than my gf. I also value a gf that is more caring/nurturing than I am. I prefer someone more conscientious and on top of things as I can be a bit all over the place and my gf prefers someone a bit more laid back and go with the flow as it balances her out
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 03:27 AM
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Many men don’t want/value a taller, stronger, or richer women. So the couple can still be equal assuming the woman is bringing something to the relationship that the taller/stronger man wants
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/23 03:13 AM
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OP said men report doing significantly more paid work than women. I was pointing out that only accounting for paid work is misleading
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 09:01 PM
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Yeah this guy has an addiction
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 07:34 PM
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Don’t get me wrong, Thailand is fun to visit. It attracts a lot of young expats so easy to find groups to hang out with and there are some genuinely good spots and great food. But I gotta agree there. The prostitution though entertaining from a distance is weird. My friends and I weren’t there to fuck around. The guys who partook are definitely a specific type
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:33 PM
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I’m saying it’s a conspiracy because it’s infallible. I’d have respect for some of your statements if they could be proven or disproven like actual scientific fact If you’ve studied any sort of science you should know this.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:11 PM
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It would be great if it could be but 90% of the stuff it presents are not actually provable or disprovable. It’s a conspiracy Let’s take the claim here for example. How would I go about disproving it?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 03:01 PM
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You guys are why everyone laughs at evopsych believers
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:56 PM
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Seems it’s heavily cultural
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:39 PM
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Sometimes an outside perspective is helpful
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:36 PM
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Dude wtf?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 02:34 PM
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Cool I didn’t know that but could explain it
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:12 AM
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Lmao you don’t have to downvote just because my experience is different than yours
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/23 12:10 AM
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Yeah so it’s interesting that men are still logging more leisure time than women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:58 PM
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Yeah. I’d say about half were objectively more attractive and half were closer to my looksmatch
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:55 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:51 PM
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Why do women bother with men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:41 PM
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More than that though. I’ve declined relationships with attractive girls because they weren’t smart enough, didn’t like their lifestyles, personality fit, etc. Most people have higher standards for relationships than sex but then I get thinking with my dick and just want sex in the moment cause they’re hot
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:36 PM
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I think that depends on a lot of things. Ideally there would be less cultural influence that leads to negative outcomes but I’m sure different people perceive different scenarios as negative. Like I prefer my gf to have a job and work, so I’d like a society that pushes women to enter the workforce. Others may want a more traditional marriage so they may prefer stronger cultural expectations that prevent that
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 11:31 PM
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I’m a guy myself and I can say that’s completely false. Plenty of men use women for sex no matter how hot they are. I’ll even admit to doing it myself in college when I wasn’t looking for a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 10:06 PM
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Dude come on. I mean even we as men are likely to make choices based on these factors. Ones for women make sense too. Like the wife is more likely to sacrifice work to stay home with the kid because she’s the only one who can breastfeed and birth a child
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:57 PM
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Sure but there are plenty of forces that influence what choice they will make. Societal, cultural, biological, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 09:46 PM
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Key word there is paid work vs unpaid. Also interesting that men report higher leisure time than women no matter what Edit: I initially believed a few comments stating women just slept more than men. Although on further reading, it seems that this difference is only 20 min on average so likely wouldn’t account for this large difference
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:56 PM
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Why do you care about them then? When I’m dating around I make sure I’m clear with the women I’m fucking that I’m not looking for a relationship and it has always gone fine
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:50 PM
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He 100% can. Who says he’s a bad guy for dating around?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:33 PM
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I mean source? I’d say most college kids don’t want relationships from my personal experience. But I can only speak anecdotally. In fact most of my single friends are actively not looking for committed relationships or just recently opening up to it and I’m late twenties
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:26 PM
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Do you think 100% of those men aren’t single by choice? Many guys that age I’ve known actively avoid relationships. I did in college myself as I wasn’t looking for a gf. I wanted to date around and live it up Also about half of men who do marry still do so before 30 in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 08:03 PM
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Most people end up in relationships over their lives. The median age for first marriage for men is about 30 so half of those men are getting married before 30. I honestly don’t think it’s this huge problem that people think it is with these bizarre narratives that have little basis in reality for the vast majority of people. Yes there’s a loneliness epidemic, but it’s really only impacting a minority of people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 07:56 PM
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You either get married or you break up. Seems perfectly normal that people break up a few times to figure out what they need/want before committing fully. I’m glad I didn’t end up with my first few gfs
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:13 AM
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Here are some resources to get you started: https://youtu.be/__fKagMELAo https://www.mindpumpmedia.com/blog/how-your-genetics-influence-your-muscle-building-potential
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 04:10 AM
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I would assume you would know a bit about the underlying science and how genetics plays a massive role too. But looks like you don’t Just because you know how your body responds doesn’t mean you understand how others will
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 01:27 AM
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You can desire variety and not cheat. If you cheat then you don’t really love your woman
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 01:00 AM
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I’m sorry but if you are fucking another girl then you don’t really love your wife. I’d never cheat on my gf
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/23 12:49 AM
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Because you can’t. Majority of men date and get married. Yeah there’s a loneliness epidemic but it’s impacting a minority of people
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 11:00 PM
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How the fuck did you get “most men are lonely” from this?? I’m a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:53 PM
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Yeah it’s all search theory. Next question
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:43 PM
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Yeah my gf is pretty damn amazing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:40 PM
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Most men are lonely? Source? Most men have relationships and get married
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 10:37 PM
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🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:42 PM
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I don’t even know who that is
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 09:39 PM
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There’s a middle ground though right? Like I don’t want a virgin but I don’t want a woman with a 100+ body count either. It just gets weird when people who aren’t virgins get really adamant about how they only want to date virgins. It’s a minority but damn it’s embarrassing
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 04:10 PM
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Thin waist sure. thin waist in relation to your hips, depends. Wouldn’t be surprised if most women would just turn into more of a plank than an hourglass
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 05:50 AM
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If you train yourself you should know that’s not how it works. Genetics play a huge part in what’s possible and women are already at a disadvantage for growing muscle
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 02:19 AM
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Come on man. You should know it’s a lot more complicated than that. Shape is largely tied to body type and genetics. Genetics play a massive role in muscle development full stop
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/23 01:19 AM
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And only 41% of first marriages end in divorce. Even less if you control for other demographics. Women initiating divorce at higher rates doesn’t mean they instantly regret it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:34 PM
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Lol where are you getting this info from?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 10:28 PM
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Agree 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:59 PM
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I mean you listed a few more things for women there. And having a large ass and boobs isn’t as simple as going to the gym and doing squats. I’m a guy and even I know this. Some of ya’ll seem to think that women are all the same body type or just a gym membership away from it Yeah it sucks being under 6’ but most of us are and we do fine
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 09:30 PM
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Depends on the man. I’m fairly tall myself and prefer girls 5’8 - 5’11. I want tall kids ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 08:08 PM
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Sorry but that’s a really weird way to walk through life
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:25 PM
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We’ve had one or two of these dry spells happen already. Once when I was applying to new jobs and just completely swamped. She was cool with not much sexual intimacy for a while Same thing happened when she was put on a huge case for her job (she worked in consulting). We didn’t have sex for a month and a half but still spent as much time together as we could. Mostly going to the gym and taking naps when she had any time. I was cool with it because her performing well at this job was important t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:22 PM
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Look it up. Plenty of studies
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 07:13 PM
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Married men are happier and live longer. A good marriage seems to be great for most people. Only thing is you’re not choosing between ducking a bunch of supermodels into your 60s and marriage. You’re more likely choosing between being completely alone and marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:31 PM
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And I’d rathe be in a loving relationship than single
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:20 PM
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I think it’s much more complicated than that. Someone has to take care of the kids and childcare is expensive. Idk about you but I’d prefer my kids aren’t raised by some nanny. I don’t think my future wife will be leeching off of me if she chooses to stay home with the kids and not to mention sacrifice a lot of her body to even bring them into the world
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:18 PM
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Married men are happier than their single counterparts and live longer as well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 06:13 PM
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Is it really though? Seems that a large portion of men are completely sexless and I don’t see that getting better in their 40s/50s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 05:35 PM
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Same argument friend
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:37 AM
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My sister is like this. Mid twenties but still looks 18. I wonder if it will stick…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:29 AM
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And Mozart wrote his first symphony at 8 so totally fine to sleep with an 8 year old too, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 01:27 AM
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Source? They would check for fucking virginity before marriage in women Obviously not everyone but I’d bet money that most did. Historically most men don’t even procreate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 12:55 AM
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Ooo def not always. More so just the last 100 years
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 12:29 AM
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Most people didn’t have sex until marriage and average marriage ages were mid twenties. It’s been only the last 100 years or so where that’s changed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/23 12:12 AM
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Yeah I had dates to prom and stuff but it was always with girls in my friend group and never romantic (I was a pretty nervous teen when it came to sexual interest and stuff) Sorry to hear that though and I hope you’re able to figure it out and maybe talk to someone knowledgeable about it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 11:10 PM
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Even so it’s weird that it causes you such a huge gap in socialization. I lost mine at 19 in college (fist kiss at 18.5) and I’m perfectly the same as my peers. Plenty of people lose it into their early twenties. It’s likely only a big deal to you because you make it one Alternatively, perhaps there is an additional reason that both led to you being a late bloomer AND makes you feel out of place now
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:52 PM
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Isnt this pretty normal historically though? I thought only fairly recently are most people messing around in their teens
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/23 10:39 PM
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Did you not read any of the info I gave you?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 10:21 PM
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She’s really not but I hope you figure out your bizarre opinions of women and find happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 10:21 PM
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I’ve seen an actual study that found women and men dislike high n counts at a similar rate. Only difference is men were more forgiving for a casual relationship while women were pretty consistent.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:18 PM
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I invite you to research this yourself then. Intelligence is a mix of nature and nurture but overall it’s 50- 80% inherited. If you have a dumb mother and she passes on those genes to their kid, even with good education they will have a lower upper bound than others who inherit higher intelligence genes from both parents Think about it like height genes. Good nutrition and sleep is important to reach your height potential, but your limit is set by your genes Plenty of studies on this and it’s wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:05 PM
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I’m sorry but that’s the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. My gf is gorgeous and her self worth is definitely not dependent on whether or not a guy approaches her in public. I’d never waste my time with a girl like that
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 05:01 PM
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Idk man I don’t want dumb kids so I’m picking smart women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:07 PM
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I want my woman to desire me when we have sex. I’d say that’s more important than just the sex without it. Sex whiteout desire is shitty sex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:06 PM
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I like it that my gf has a pretty wide range. She dresses cute and feminine in Sun dresses sometimes She’ll dress more masculine and cozy in big sweaters and those slacks every girl wears now And then a little edgy sometimes on weekends if we are going to a party or some event
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 04:04 PM
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I like dogs. Especially when trained well. Cats make the whole house smell like piss
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 01:22 AM
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I’d much prefer my gf to be a dog person than a cat person
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/23 12:51 AM
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Is there any real data to support though? I’m only in my late twenties but I have a hard time believing that I’ll get more attractive at 40 after seeing how some of my friends are aging
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 11:41 PM
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Causation is not correlation. Besides the STD thing I don’t think being promiscuous causes many negatives
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 11:39 PM
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What do you mean by peak though? Physical prime is mid-late 20s We peak in fertility in mid twenties I’d say most men peak socially in their mid twenties too due to college So only big thing I can think of is earnings and it that case you probably peak in your 60s
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 11:37 PM
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Social stigma likely plays a part too
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 09:11 PM
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It entirely depends on how religious they are. Super religious girls will usually only date men in their religion. Anything else if fair game
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/23 03:51 AM
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The best thing is to just be yourself in regards to masculinity/femininity. It’s pretty obvious when someone faking it and there’s truly a niche for everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 11:45 PM
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I think they like the guy with 500 bodies in spite of him being a slut. Like obviously if he was able to rack up that much he probably is really good with women. I doubt most women even know the number anyway Correlation isn’t causation
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:13 PM
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Yeah they like them despite their high body count. Not because of it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:10 PM
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Yeah they like them despite their high body count. Not because of it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 02:10 PM
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I bought my gf a vibrator because she never owned one and doesn’t touch herself so I thought it would be good for her I don’t own sex toys for myself but I think it’s different because many women can’t finish with just their hands like a guy can
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:56 AM
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You don’t think they look super young? How old do you think they look? I’d say high school or college freshman
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:40 AM
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Average for their age groups. I’d say average is a pretty large bucket Jessica is what I’d expect to see for average girls in their mid-late twenties
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 04:38 AM
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Sure if you do it right. Seems like it’s just a lot easier to just have friends and be normal. I think it can hurt many people more than it helps. Most girls I’ve dated don’t even see my social media until months into dating I know some girls who look at guys’ following list to see how many ig models or other girls he’s following as a red flag test.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:42 AM
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I’ve had multiple female friends comment that they think it’s hot if a guy doesn’t have an ig. I have one myself but private and haven’t had any issues. Girls want guys who have a good social life. A weird social media presence may give them the ick but having none at all is unlikely to hurt you unless the girls you’re going for are shameless social climbers
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/23 12:19 AM
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Amsterdam is actively trying to shift away from the stag party tourists and towards families on vacation. They spend much more money and it’s better socially for the residents
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 10:48 PM
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What’s the problem here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 10:11 PM
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Dating isn’t meant to be easy bro
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 10:01 PM
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Most of the high end gyms don’t even allow cameras anymore. That’s the solution
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:59 PM
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Some guy on here said that a woman’s league is who she can get to marry her. Like how the hell do you expect women to figure that out?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:10 PM
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As do I but still walking around the street you see plenty of regular looking people Kinda funny that your attractive woman and attractive man images both look 17 lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 09:09 PM
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Hmm wow I’d say both are objectively attractive. What’s an example of a reasonably attractive person to you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:16 PM
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All the women here are pretty average: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.yahoo.com/amphtml/lifestyle/13-women-sizes-0-24-144601381.html I’d say particularly Jessica as I’m mid-late twenties
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:14 PM
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Both of those people are above average lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:07 PM
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??
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 08:00 PM
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I don’t think it’s a good decision but you yourself said it was a hookup app. Like what do you expect? Of course there’s much fewer women willing to have casuals sex than men that want it so if you’re average then no luck Frankly I think both men and women would be better of if they stopped so desperately trying to fuck around. It’s embarrassing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 07:52 PM
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Your world viewpoint is incredibly damaging I was responding to your first statement that women aren’t giving the majority of men the time of day. That’s stupid. Should a woman just swipe right on everyone and go on all the dates and fuck every single average man in the hopes that someone will commit to marriage and then she knows finally that they were in her league? It doesn’t make any sense
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 07:47 PM
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So now a woman should give every single man the time of day and just hopes one is actually “in her league” and wants to commit?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 07:35 PM
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So a women should just be happy with whoever wants to marry them? How do you even swipe on a guy based on that info? It makes no sense
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 06:40 PM
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But it’s obviously not their level then if they’re able to go above. And there’s no way to determine your own level with 100% certainty. Dating is supposed to be difficult. Idk why everyone expects it to be easy
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:27 PM
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Why should they?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 04:10 PM
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Yes many still do. Where did you even hear this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:44 AM
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Mansplaining vs. explaining
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/23 02:42 AM
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