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They love to tell us what a real man is. How about a real woman doesn’t ignore her vows, quit on her family, and behave like a selfish teenager
/r/Divorce_Men05/09/25 02:35 AM
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I’d become angry if I didn’t pity their permanent decisions based on temporary emotions. How they can convince themselves that some other guy will have the same depth of love for them and their kids is just beyond me. It’s the blind leading the blind.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/25 11:29 PM
17

Nonsense. Men don’t plan divorces years in advance like cowards.
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/25 11:27 PM
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And complaining about how men never communicate, are emotionally unintelligent, etc….
/r/Divorce_Men04/09/25 11:26 PM
2

Thanks. That made me laugh out loud. I needed that tonight!
/r/Divorce_Men03/09/25 03:37 AM
1

I’ve got good news for you! Newer studies show that children tend to have better outcomes in single father households compared to single mother households. I’m not buying the “best interest of the kids is to be with mom” argument.
/r/Divorce_Men03/09/25 03:31 AM
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She didn’t cook, sounds like she barely cleaned either. On principle, I don’t have a problem with alimony. What you said is correct, some women do sacrifice some of their career ambition to be a stay at home mom by choice. My problem with the way things are is that men’s sacrifices not only aren't acknowledged, they’re used against us. We sacrifice time with our family to build careers for everybody’s benefit. So, wouldn’t it make sense to give us more time with the kids, at least initially, to …
/r/Divorce_Men02/09/25 04:16 AM
3

It doesn’t have to be. Rewrite that story in your head and proceed from a position of strength and honor.
/r/Divorce_Men27/08/25 06:12 PM
9

In my experience lawyers are inevitably trying to do one of two things, neither of which ultimately benefit you: They attempt to settle your case as quickly as possible while often negotiating from a position of weakness to get it off their case load, which typically means you get shafted in negotiations. They feed off of and ratchet up the drama as much as possible to increase their billable hours, even though they understand it effectively wastes your time and money, and oftentimes leads to un…
/r/Divorce_Men27/08/25 06:10 PM
2

I second this response, much like my own story. Better days are ahead OP! Let them lie (haha) in the bed they made. They’ll never fully trust each other because deep down they know what they did was wrong.
/r/Divorce_Men26/08/25 09:09 PM
3

Did you mean it or is that just one of the choices you aren’t tied to for the rest of your life?
/r/Divorce_Men21/08/25 03:29 AM
2

Did you say “till death do us part” in your wedding vows, or was it until I find something better?
/r/Divorce_Men21/08/25 02:08 AM
2

There is a massive gulf oftentimes from being book smart (educated) and having competent life skills. Ask me how I know…. I have a Ph.D, make over $200K/yr and have made some of the dumbest decisions known to man. I took out high interest loans so I could play the field with the ladies while newly separated and drowning in legal fees from a contentious divorce. I guess anything to distract me from the hell that my life had become. I’ve course corrected now and am in much better shape, but damn i…
/r/Divorce_Men19/08/25 10:20 PM
7

I think that’s the point.
/r/Divorce_Men19/08/25 09:45 PM
3

That made me laugh out loud. Thanks and I’m sorry. They all pretend to be such complicated creatures, but in the end they are just as simple as we are.
/r/Divorce_Men19/08/25 09:43 PM
1

Even that isn’t really a positive, because they are putting out for anybody with a dick and a wallet. There is a profession associated with such behavior I believe.
/r/Divorce_Men19/08/25 09:40 PM
3

All that is going to accomplish longer-term is men refusing to cohabitate with women.
/r/Divorce_Men19/08/25 09:37 PM
6

Emotionally abusive 🤣🤣
/r/Divorce_Men19/08/25 09:32 PM
4

First relationships after divorce are almost always a rebound and rarely work out. This is especially true when you’re both at the same point in your post-separation journey. Give it a couple more years before even thinking about something like that. It’s a bad idea
/r/Divorce_Men19/08/25 09:18 PM
6

They would say the same about liberals. This sub is about unity amongst us brothers. Let’s keep politics out of it.
/r/Divorce_Men19/08/25 09:15 PM
8

This isn’t about red pill or blue pill. It’s about sharing your experiences with others so they don’t fall into the same trap that you did.
/r/Divorce_Men19/08/25 03:37 PM
16

Emotional intelligence is just another therapy-speak nonsense word that women use to mean: He needs to know what I want and need without me saying it. This is used as a ploy to rewrite history so that they can tell themselves that they did “everything they could” to save the relationship.
/r/Divorce_Men19/08/25 03:33 PM
7

That’s not shallow my brother, it’s simple self preservation. Stay on that righteous path!
/r/Divorce_Men19/08/25 03:31 PM
10

You forgot to add that the used/high mileage car’s “standards” keep climbing into the stratosphere. This shows how much self-awareness they lack. They all think that a top tier man should wine and dine them, but never think to ask why HE would want to do that…
/r/Divorce_Men19/08/25 03:28 PM
1

Ex is a nurse, can confirm
/r/Divorce_Men12/08/25 08:10 PM
6

Don’t take her back!
/r/Divorce_Men11/08/25 03:19 PM
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Can confirm, this is true. The thing to remember is that women get their divorce stack “front-loaded”. Meaning that they get a bunch of cash and temporary support/maintenance payments at the beginning and it’s slowly downhill from there. Most men get the opposite effect, we start in a big hole and slowly work our way out. I’m Getting richer every day and my ex wife keeps squandering her stack with lavish vacations. I can already see reality and her panic start seeping in as alimony ends soon. No…
/r/Divorce_Men11/08/25 03:17 PM
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Who is going to enforce that? Ridiculous
/r/Divorce_Men07/08/25 12:15 AM
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Yes, I don’t think we disagree either. If anyone does choose to marry a single mom, don’t; or for god’s sake at least get a prenup with legal counsel advising.
/r/Divorce_Men06/08/25 09:47 PM
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Everybody in this thread has been yelled at multiple times. We are tougher than that. Some bad things actually build character. You can’t live your life in a bubble, nor should you want to. Conflict, even when it comes out in less desirable ways, is a part of life and we all need to learn to deal with it if you want to be a functional adult. There are absolutely times when raising your voice at kids or adults is completely appropriate and in yours and their best interests long term. I’m not excu…
/r/Divorce_Men06/08/25 08:39 PM
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I think you’re right almost all the time with your general analysis of single moms and modern women specifically, but occasionally if you’re really lucky you’ll find one that truly isn’t like the rest. I know, I know, we all think we have found one that is the exception to the rule. The problem is that if you don’t want to be alone after 40 you essentially have 3 choices: single moms, childless cat ladies and other weirdos. The single moms that actually are good partners tend to usually be widow…
/r/Divorce_Men06/08/25 08:35 PM
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Not worth the fight. Ask yourself if this is really about the kids or a you vs him problem. You can only control what happens in your home. Talk with your kids, make sure there is no physical abuse and what constitutes a violation on their behalf, but this is not your hill to die on. Maybe this will work in your advantage somehow, but you have to keep your cool. You wouldn’t want your ex micromanaging your parenting and partner, would you?
/r/Divorce_Men06/08/25 02:19 PM
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Oh but they still want marriage when the time comes
/r/Divorce_Men03/08/25 02:23 PM
1

Oh man that will really get her head spinning. This is the way OP if you want revenge.
/r/Divorce_Men18/07/25 05:19 PM
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Don’t do that. You’ll regret it once you get your head screwed on straight. Don’t make permanent decisions with temporary emotions
/r/Divorce_Men09/07/25 03:31 AM
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Agreed. Apparently the son living with a crack dealer in a drug house is acceptable to them?
/r/Divorce_Men19/06/25 01:27 PM
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Not only that, the value of the child tax credits over time essentially nullifies the lump sum payment. Assuming he makes under $250K/yr anyway
/r/Divorce_Men18/06/25 05:08 PM
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I was served at the end of the day on the Friday before Father’s Day, at work, in front of all my employees. She also said I wouldn’t be able to see the kids for “reasons”. You can imagine how our divorce proceedings went
/r/Divorce_Men12/06/25 01:39 AM
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Be prepared for her to try and come back when this guy leaves her. Your only job is to say hell no!
/r/Divorce_Men11/06/25 10:52 PM
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That ship has sailed buddy. This is exactly why people warn of relationships early in the process. You don’t know up from down and are just going to make someone else miserable. Ask yourself, does your current relationship deserve this?
/r/Divorce_Men20/05/25 11:33 PM
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You have to understand that most people really do believe that women are sugar/spice/everything nice; if a relationship ends it’s the man’s fault, etc… Our society just went through this “believe all women” nonsense too. Your mistake was simply underestimating the amount of social conditioning most people have regarding the male/female experience. Sorry brother, we know the truth.
/r/Divorce_Men20/05/25 10:54 PM
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That was probably her all along. You’re just confused because she had a good mask on.
/r/Divorce_Men20/05/25 02:20 PM
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This is the proper diagnosis. I’m at the phase where I’m watching the ex slowly taper off her cash pile fund from me. I keep getting richer and her best days are behind her.
/r/Divorce_Men19/05/25 04:46 PM
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Dude you still have a minimum of 10-15 years to have kids if you want. Deep breaths. RELAX
/r/Divorce_Men18/05/25 07:52 PM
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It’s pretty much the same everywhere man. This mind virus has infected the entire world
/r/Divorce_Men08/04/25 12:18 AM
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Youngest daughter is graduating college… they are done coparenting. What peace is there to be kept?
/r/Divorce_Men06/04/25 06:22 PM
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When you’re drowning in the wreckage of your own life you scramble to reach out for a life raft. You don’t sit and ponder the effects your decision has on the life raft because you are drowning. He is probably very afraid to be alone and you are swept up in all this mess. I’m not excusing his behavior, but he probably isn’t fully aware of how deeply unprepared for another relationship he is. I know I wasn’t when it was fresh. He has little kids to consider too. I do feel bad for you to a point, …
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/25 11:10 PM
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He probably wants to be ready to date but just isn’t. Even if it’s true that they had been drifting apart for some time, it takes awhile to heal and accept your new reality. He is comparing everything about you to his soon to be ex-wife. That isn’t fair to either him or you. I’m also a bit confused. You said that you wanted time and space away from him while he is dealing with this, but you’re also upset that he isn’t communicating like usual. You can’t have both, pick one. Take this as a lesson…
/r/Divorce_Men29/03/25 10:59 PM
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What is your motive here?
/r/Divorce_Men23/03/25 08:25 PM
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Something along the lines of: “How can I benefit the most from this situation/relationship and give the least of myself while still looking like a winner or a victim” Everything is transactional. Nothing is sacred. People are just tools to be used and discarded at her leisure.
/r/Divorce_Men19/03/25 01:18 AM
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Women only have empathy for women, themselves and children. Even that is limited. Great quote I heard: “Women don’t care about your personal struggles, they wait at the finish line and fuck the winners”
/r/Divorce_Men07/03/25 07:14 PM
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Your comment history is…….. interesting. Hating all women and being a simp are at opposite ends of the horseshoe. You’re much closer to the former than you think. I imagine you’d proudly simp if one would only notice your existence.
/r/Divorce_Men06/03/25 09:09 PM
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I threw mine into a lake. Lord of the rings style.
/r/Divorce_Men06/03/25 03:49 AM
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You can use all the police interactions and anything recorded to assail her character in court!
/r/Divorce_Men05/03/25 05:13 AM
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Good call. That’s a huge one. Giant red flag
/r/Divorce_Men28/02/25 10:27 PM
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Definitely a bot. Although this is the meta-narrative about relationships. You can tell by how the people around you will treat you and her differently. With men it’s always “what did you do” and with women it’s “what did he do to you”. Part of our evolution as people is to realize that women being equals means that they aren’t sugar, spice and everything nice. They are people just like us. Women and men are suffering. Men to blame. Now to the weather Bob.
/r/Divorce_Men28/02/25 10:15 PM
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Isn’t it funny in hindsight that women always complain about men’s lack of communication.
/r/Divorce_Men28/02/25 10:12 PM
6

She will benefit short term, but will lose long term. Keep doing the right thing, one step at a time brother.
/r/Divorce_Men28/02/25 07:17 PM
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This is a societal narrative fueled by social media and feminism. There is no cure, other than women figuring out the consequences or fucking around and finding out over the next generation. This is the female hive mind in action. It sucks, but it is what it is. Don’t worsen the problem and reward some entitled single mom by “saving” her and wifing her up. These are the most important things you should be screening for during dates. Why they left previous LTR/marriage. Entitlement mindset Victim…
/r/Divorce_Men28/02/25 07:11 PM
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It’s easier when you find a woman better than her and when she clearly takes a step down. That’s the route I took. I can feel her bitterness every time we interact.
/r/Divorce_Men28/02/25 05:58 PM
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Right. Women are sugar, spice and everything nice. Take your leash off and think for yourself homie.
/r/Divorce_Men28/02/25 05:56 PM
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I don’t think we need to, you have the right idea. Seriously though, quit fucking her. She might be trying to get pregnant to increase her support amount and not have to work.
/r/Divorce_Men28/02/25 03:27 PM
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Why in gods name would you tell her? There is no upside for you other than a quick kick in the face of someone who doesn’t want you back. What is that really worth? Would you want her back if she changed her mind after this information?
/r/Divorce_Men24/02/25 04:09 AM
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Let the LAWYERS do their jobs.
/r/Divorce_Men23/02/25 05:11 PM
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She is lying. She is trying to get an unfair deal. You know this.
/r/Divorce_Men23/02/25 05:10 PM
2

No 50/50 on expenses AFTER child support and alimony are paid to you.
/r/Divorce_Men23/02/25 04:54 PM
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I think you’re downplaying the role inflation will have. Do you want a situation where mom can afford anything they want and you are taking the bus everywhere? As kids get older these things start to matter. A better question, at this point why are you listening to anything she says?
/r/Divorce_Men23/02/25 04:53 PM
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Would she eat into her retirement? Come on man, grow a spine!
/r/Divorce_Men23/02/25 04:51 PM
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Look up voting records. That will help you prove they are cohabitating.
/r/Divorce_Men23/02/25 04:48 PM
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You’re still trying to make her happy. She is gone dude. You really need to read No More Mr Nice Guy. You’re thinking that if you give her what she wants then she will love you again and you’ll feel validated. You need to do what’s right for the kids. Let me give you an example. It just so happens that my income ($185K) and my ex-wife’s income ($70K) are practically the same as yours. I pay $2000/month in alimony and $1,306/month in child support AFTER that money transfer we split expenses 50/50…
/r/Divorce_Men23/02/25 04:43 PM
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Don’t do that. Your kids will suffer. She can afford it and you need it. Do you want your kids to suffer when they’re with you compared to when they are with mom.
/r/Divorce_Men23/02/25 04:36 PM
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Women love to correlate what’s “best for the kids” and what’s best for them. They aren’t one and the same. What’s best for the kids is for you to be able to afford life while the kids are with you 50% of the time. A house is just a house. Kids will survive and adapt. Like the others have said, gender swap the incomes and post this in the regular divorce subreddit then take the advice all the women give you. You also need to read the book No More Mr Nice Guy by Robert Glover. It will change your …
/r/Divorce_Men23/02/25 04:32 PM
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Good luck. While my attorney did confirm that is how it should work “in theory” when it came time to get down to numbers no allowance was made for all the extra taxes I would have to pay. I hope your experience is better than mine. Maybe New Mexico isn’t a female enabler state like Washington State is.
/r/Divorce_Men19/02/25 12:36 AM
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Watch what women do, not what they say
/r/Divorce_Men16/02/25 03:26 PM
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In retrospect I may have misunderstood what you meant in your comment. My bad
/r/Divorce_Men15/02/25 11:58 PM
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God that is so cringe. How can you possibly have gone through the hell of divorce court and come away thinking women are the ones being discriminated against? Women primarily take care of children not because some invisible patriarchal society forces them too, but because ON AVERAGE women tend to be one standard deviation higher in the caring/nurturing psychological component compared to the average man. Compared to men, they are more biologically/genetically prepared to deal with the needs of i…
/r/Divorce_Men15/02/25 04:50 PM
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This is spot on. When I used to date, my primary objective in the first few dates was not to assess whether or not the woman showed signs of BPD, but how much was there. Screening for an entitlement attitude should be priority one for men when dating. It’s a precursor of awful things to come later. I knew I found a good one when she demanded ahead of time to split on the first date. Her logic was that she didn’t want to feel like she owed me anything, which I deeply respected. This is a woman wh…
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/25 07:19 PM
1

Some of the most emotionally stunted and messed up women I’ve ever met have become therapists or counselors of some sort. I think they go into it knowing that they are broken and hoping to find some answer to what ails them. Or maybe they want to find some existential excuse for their terrible choices and behaviors. Either way, I wouldn’t trust these women to make me a coffee, which is to say nothing about well-meaning strangers putting their relationship into their hands.
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/25 07:15 PM
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You start by attacking that statement you just made. Would your “end all be all” leave you and break up your family? Would she be able to flip a switch and not want to you about anything other than the kids? Seems like she doesn’t have much regard for you as a person anymore. Have some self respect. There is likely someone out there who wouldn’t do this to you or your family. You’re putting her on a pedestal. She is a human, a flawed one at that. She WAS a part of your family but she CHOSE to sa…
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/25 06:55 PM
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Come on man. She is just putting on a front for the next guy. She will be smoking weed and blowing up like a blowfish as soon as she starts to get comfortable with him. It’s a tale as old as time. The good old fashioned bait and switch.
/r/Divorce_Men14/02/25 05:05 AM
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Now think of what she would actually have to do to lose 50/50. System is rigged. We are held to a higher standard than the “poor defenseless female” for some reason
/r/Divorce_Men12/02/25 05:16 PM
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They always tell on themselves. Why say something like that if you weren’t thinking it.
/r/Divorce_Men12/02/25 05:09 PM
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You’re examining this from the point of view of a man. Women don’t work this way.
/r/Divorce_Men11/02/25 02:42 AM
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Get alimony from her. It sounds like she makes more than you. Don’t let her bully you. WA state is a community property state, so you’ll split assets 50/50. Her lawyer knows this which is why they’re trying to bully you into less than you deserve. Get a lawyer. Like yesterday.
/r/Divorce_Men06/02/25 03:14 PM
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Same
/r/Divorce_Men05/02/25 07:17 AM
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Yep I’m at $24000/yr. Isn’t it fun paying taxes on someone else’s income?
/r/Divorce_Men26/01/25 05:46 PM
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No. I don’t see dating from a woman’s perspective, but I would bet you could come up with something reasonable and applicable.
/r/Divorce_Men21/01/25 02:09 AM
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Make sure you vet her for several years before you consider marriage or cohabitation. In some states it’s one and the same. Society gives out messaging like men are desperate and should be grateful for ANY female interest now that women are so strong and independent… blah, blah, blah. In reality you’ll find that you have the upper hand in dating and relationships. Men hit their prime level of desirability in their 30s and 40s. Don’t give away your future to an entitled and nagging negative woman…
/r/Divorce_Men20/01/25 07:34 PM
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Yeah man your story is crazy. The legal costs and monthly payments alone kill me; and I’m paying about $3,500/month. If it’s any condolence you’re the best she will ever get, and she will likely die alone.
/r/Divorce_Men19/01/25 07:44 PM
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Shaming isn’t helpful at this point, especially for someone who has likely been there. Have some self awareness.
/r/Divorce_Men18/01/25 06:04 PM
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Women love to quote the “foresaking all others” part of the wedding vows. It also states “to have and to hold”. Withholding sex long term is almost as bad as cheating. She needs to see a doctor or own up to her part in it.
/r/Divorce_Men17/01/25 03:39 AM
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Sure. And that’s what spousal support is actually intended for. Lets not forget that she benefited too from the extra asset split that was afforded by me moving up in my career and her not having to work those years so she could have a tight bond with the children. My problem is there is no counter to the financial alimony I have to pay. I’ll explain what I mean. I had to work a ton of overtime and sacrifice time with my kids and family in order to be able to move up at work. Wouldn’t it make se…
/r/Divorce_Men07/01/25 02:47 PM
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I paid 2.5 years of “temporary” alimony during divorce proceedings then 3 years of tapered alimony after the decree was signed… 14 year marriage for what it’s worth. She was a stay at home mom for the first 8 years now is a RN. I’m half way through the later part of payments. I look at it as a reminder to never let a woman have that kind of control over my finances ever again. In a year and a half I’ll be free and stacking cash, and she will be trying to learn to live in a new lifestyle that doe…
/r/Divorce_Men06/01/25 10:44 PM
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Well since 98% of claims are paid by men to women, I think that fits
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/24 10:31 PM
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I always hated that term too, she is no longer my spouse and doesn’t need my support. Yet here I am following these 1950s style court orders. Feminism when it suits them, traditional values when it suits them
/r/Divorce_Men30/12/24 06:19 PM
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I completely agree. Watch the therapist take your side just once and see how quickly she wants to stop going. They use it for third party validation. I heard someone say once that couples therapy is a WOMBAT which is an acronym for “waste of money brains and time”
/r/Divorce_Men26/12/24 09:24 PM
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It’s not funny, but your comment made me laugh out loud. Good luck to any man that ends up with them.
/r/Divorce_Men23/12/24 02:01 PM
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You can’t help people that don’t want to get better. Period. You can point to things she has SAID; but as you know, actions speak louder than words. Every chance she has had to improve or salvage the relationship she has chose selfishness and self destruction over improvement. At this point it’s on her. What she really wants is to have you as a fallback option in case options A, B, C, etc don’t work out. Have more self respect for yourself than to fall for that. She isn’t your problem anymore. Y…
/r/Divorce_Men20/10/24 09:14 PM
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I also met my long term girlfriend on facebook dating.
/r/Divorce_Men18/10/24 04:40 PM
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This is the only way. Follow this guy’s advice. Trying to negotiate attraction never works, because her complaints are what’s actually wrong.
/r/Divorce_Men15/10/24 06:24 PM
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Her affair partner ended the relationship. Now she has regrets. Boo hoo, so sad. Ship has sailed. Don’t go back! It’s called monkey branching. Most women don’t leave relationships until they have a new “better” relationship secured. This is why it feels so sudden and shocking to you. Now the branch she swung to has broken and she is falling and trying to grab onto the nearest branch. Don’t be that guy. You deserve better.
/r/Divorce_Men10/10/24 10:24 PM
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Absolutely! My long term girlfriend impressed me by demanding we split the bill 50/50 even for drinks. She said she didn’t want to feel that she owed me anything. I respected that. Turns out she also doesn’t have an entitlement complex like my ex-wife. As men we forget sometimes that we have standards and expectations of women too. Go into any interaction with a potential partner with that mindset and you’ll do better. If you go in trying to please her that’s what your relationship will become; …
/r/Divorce_Men10/10/24 07:54 PM
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Don’t take her back! She will try and come back to you at some point if she hasn’t already.
/r/Divorce_Men25/09/24 11:58 PM
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Right to the point. I love this sub
/r/Divorce_Men23/09/24 04:22 AM
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