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Honestly, this is kind of true. However it isn’t born entirely out of delusion. As a woman, we genuinely do have enough men pining after us to have an inflated sense of self worth. The issue is that too many women confuse quantity for quality. So they end aiming for men who are out of their league because they attract such a large amount of men who are in their league. Literally even a moderately attractive woman will get loads of attention if she’s out of her home enough. I work a very public f…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 11:54 PM
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No. I get hit on pretty much daily because I work directly with customers and I have a friendly demeanor that encourages people to talk to me. I’m never offended unless they are disrespectful about it or pester me. I actually respect them for shooting their shot, even if I’m not interested. There’s nothing’s wrong with going after what you want as long as you can tactfully handle the possible rejection.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 05:24 AM
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No I don’t offer because there is no reason to. If he’s really into me, he would feel insulted by me offering. If he’s not, then he would ask me to pay. I let the man lead in that situation. In a hypothetical where I would offer, I would expect him to refuse and if he doesn’t, I would take it as a sign that he doesn’t actually want to see me again. So naturally he would be less desirable in my eyes. I don’t do anything when the bill arrives on the first date. If our relationship progressed, I wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:22 PM
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Haha yeah, I came to this conclusion a few months ago. I realized that a lot of women dominated online spaces really don’t want to grapple with this fact. Honestly, I enjoyed reading this. You clearly put a lot of effort into developing yourself, and it shows. So, I completely understand why you feel frustrated with the current dating market. You’ve built qualities that should be valued, and it’s tough when the discourse online doesn’t acknowledge the logic of what we’re both saying. I think eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:42 PM
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Thank you :) I agree, wholeheartedly. I think what has happened is that society heavily invested in elevating women and girls. This of course included deemphasizing gender roles as necessary for women to follow. I don’t think that is a bad thing in and of itself. However, the issue is how deeply one sided it was and still is. There was so much focus put into teaching young girls that we don’t have to follow gender roles that there was virtually no focus put into teaching young men that they don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:34 AM
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Lol well i’m glad that you think it is reasonable. The only reason why I expect my boyfriend to drive me around is because I don’t drive and I don’t have a car, but when I acquire those things, I won’t expect it as much. Regardless, the gendered roles that I reciprocate are that I pretty much give my boyfriend what he asks of me and I try to go above and beyond to care for him. He doesn’t ask for much admittedly, but I wash his clothes, clean up his apartment, give him all of the affection and i…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 04:51 AM
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I am the exact girl that you have described. So I will be brutally honest about what I was looking for before I met my boyfriend. I know that it will piss off someone lol. None of this is in a specific order. At least 5’5 in height Makes more money than me and has a reliable car that he’s willing to use to take me where I need to go. Head full of hair and NOT overweight. Funny and makes great conversation. Also thinks I’m funny. Enjoys stimulating conversations Doesn’t demand that we go 50/50 on…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 03:57 AM
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The biggest mistake that I see women make with online dating is putting what they don’t like in their bios instead of just talking about what they’re looking for. It just makes them look like a jerk. Another one is the mindset that they don’t have to give a man “wife treatment” until they become his wife, which doesn’t make sense. They usually get these mindsets from women who are not married and routinely play the field. If a woman is looking for something real then they need to treat the relat…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 08:46 PM
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This is definitely a thing, but if you’re gonna be mad at OF creators that you need to be mad at all aspects of capitalism. Exploiting your core base is pretty much the motto. If OF creators didn’t intentionally target lonely pathetic men, then they wouldn’t have repeat customers. What I find funny about this conversation is that people tend to only imagine female creators as doing this, when the male creators do it just as much. Even straight male OF creators will intentionally try to pander to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 11:33 PM
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Girl where did you even get this from? 😂he didn’t say that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/26 09:34 PM
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I think that dating is rough across the board for a lot of people but I wouldnt call it hell on earth. All of my friends in my friend group are all in relationships and we’re all heterosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 09:57 PM
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Why does the lack of monogamy have to mean that there will always be harems? What about a society where both the men and women have different partners of their own
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:28 PM
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To me, the line is when their preferences seem so overly nitpicky and specific that is clear that they will have very little success and finding a man who fits them. For example if they only want men who earn more money than they do, then thats fair, but if they require something outrageous like “He has to make 4x times my salary and I wont settle for less” then that’s too picky. Another example would be if my friend or family member was 5’1 like me but refuses to date anyone under 6 feet. Anoth…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 05:44 PM
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No because if he makes less than me then he’s pretty much in poverty lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 05:40 AM
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They actually are lol. I just forgot because it happened so recently and it was so unremarkable. They had a courthouse wedding, so not very memorable. My bf’s other brother is also married and him and his wife also have the same dynamic. It just works for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:48 PM
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If we’re both past the age of 30
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 03:54 AM
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If your concern is that then you should be shaming women and men because men are just as much as apart of that problem. I do think that women should be responsible with reproducing and so should men. I’m not a hypocrite who thinks that men should be allowed to impregnate whoever and not be held responsible or accountable. It is on both genders to do that, not just one. However, of course you types would not consider that your gender should be held accountable for being irresponsible. I think the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:18 AM
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If someone’s promiscuity is pathological and affects their ability to commit in relationships, then that is not gender specific. It can happen to men or women. Thus, using that as a justification for only slut shaming women falls flat. If that is your concern, then you should be slut shaming all genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 01:10 AM
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You speak about men as if they are cavemen and a monolith. Regardless, I still don’t care about any of that. If a person’s behavior impacts their mating strategy, then in due time they will figure it out or continue to face the consequences. Men like you are just upset that women are acting in ways that you don’t like. It is up to you to date women who fit your preferences, not to try to shame women into being your preference, especially if you excuse promiscuity in men. Not to mention, even the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:55 AM
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It really depends on the couple. I imagine that most child free relationships are probably 50/50 but the dynamics are up to the individuals and what works best for them. My boyfriend’s brother has a girlfriend who is a “stay at home girlfriend”. She does all of the household care while he works and they don’t have kids. It works for them, so they have no issues. I imagine that each relationship is like that. Its based on what works. Edit: Change girlfriend to wife. I forgot that they got married…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:32 AM
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The argument of “one is easy and one is hard” is such a stupid one. Why does something being easy mean that the person should be shamed and judged for it? Men who need to have copious amounts of sex with different women are notoriously deeply insecure and always have something to prove. Yet you think that only women who sleep around are the problem? Regardless, I don’t care if people don’t want to date promiscuous women. Everyone is entitled to their own preferences, but pretending like slut sha…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/25 12:28 AM
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Yoooo my bad. I responded to the wrong person and misread your comment. I’ve learned my lesson from getting on Reddit while nursing a hangover
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 05:33 PM

Um yes it is. True progressiveness is about choice. Being trad doesn’t automatically equal demanding that everyone else do it as well. You’re conflating personal choice with moral judgement on everyone else. A woman can be a trad wife and still support women who chose the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/25 04:28 PM

Who cares??? Seriously. Why are you letting the comments of others play a role at all in YOUR standards. Anyone that would call you toxic for expecting basic hygiene is not someone to be taken seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 07:17 PM

They always do when race is discussed. Its kind of hilarious that people not from the US claim to not care about race, yet they become so bothered when someone else brings it up
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:34 PM

That is what gets me about these posts. Men are pretty much upset that women don’t lower our standards as much as men do and date whoever. Men shouldn’t tolerate someone with poor hygiene either
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:27 PM

Logically, of course it is just a skin tone, but racism doesn’t work based on logic. I don’t know what country you’re from but best believe that we are not the only country that deals with racism. It is not just us who “are obsessed with race”, we just talk about it openly instead of sweeping it under the rug.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:25 PM

Exactly this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:22 PM

Your friends are able to attract people so what they’re doing works for them. Those who are given advice are people whose current situations are not working for them. Thus, they are the types who may need to build a social life to get into a relationship. My bf is an introvert who doesn’t like to go out. It gets to me at times but he’s still my bf. He didn’t need a social life to find a gf. Some of you just do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/25 04:22 PM
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I definitely could if I wanted to. It’s actually not that hard and my bf has mentioned being opened to creating content together, but there are many reasons why I wouldn’t. First, I could never commit to being a content creator. Its a daily thing and it would aggravate me after awhile, especially if my “fanbase” is just creeps. Second, I would have to really take care of my body. I already do but not to the levels expected on Only Fans. Third, I wouldnt want anyone to find out. I would be horrif…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/25 05:43 PM

Yeah I aim for transparency
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:27 PM

Shorter than me, yes. I’m 5’1, so that doesn’t exclude all short men. Even the short ones are taller than me and that’s all that I require
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:26 PM

Where did you get jester from? Because I want him to be funny and not too serious? Yeah I’m the same way. I guess that makes me my own jester then lmao. I need someone who can take a joke. That’s why my bf is perfect for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:36 AM

Assumptions assumptions. Show me where I said that he had to be tall. I specifically said “taller than me” and I’m literally 5’1. That doesn’t require a guy to be tall. One of my exes was 5’5 and my bf is 5’8. Show me where I mentioned money as well. I said that they can’t be unemployed, which of course. Why would I want to build with someone who has no drive? Having employment is the bare minimum. As far as good looking, yes I want the person that I will be with for the rest of my life to be at…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 02:35 AM
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This is just a personal list of mine. I can’t speak for all women. The order doesn’t matter. Not funny Way too serious Homebody Shorter than me Obese Drug user Unemployed Quiet Doesn’t like animals and doesn’t want kids Lacks common sense Responds with anger and can’t resolve conflict without exploding or insults. Doesn’t have a sense of adventure. Adds nothing to my life Allows others to run all over them Lacks the concept of responsibility and most importantly accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/25 12:45 AM
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That’s my point. Its not an unfair question to ponder.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 09:49 PM
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Its based on your frequency. So its not a duty for you because its when you want it. She’s just doing it for you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:38 PM
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If it were an unreasonable question then every man in the thread would agree that it is. However, there are several, not just one, saying that they would agree to this arrangement. If it was an unfair question, with no basis, then there would be zero men who like the sound of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 05:37 PM
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How is she doing that? She asked a question and there are several men answering that they would want that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/25 04:30 PM
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You’re the second person to tell me that I’m not blue pill in the past few days lol, but idk. I still think I am
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:45 AM
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I don’t think that he has any internalized misandry. If I was fighting to do all of household work, then what would I have to be upset with him about? Like that’s ridiculous. If I actively push him out of being an active participant in household chores then I can’t be mad when that’s the exact result. I think that every relationship has their own dynamic. So I don’t think negatively of men who don’t insist on doing chores if their partner is comfortable with it. I don’t see why I would have a pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 05:37 AM
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Exactly. I used to love watching 90 Day Fiance back in the early seasons when it was genuinely about people finding loves with foreigners instead of the reality tv slop that it is now and I always thought that it was lovely. I liked seeing men find real love with women who genuinely cared about them. However Passport bros don’t make it about that. They center their opinions on hating American women and a good portion of them objectify the women in those countries as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/25 01:11 AM
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Well he didn’t say that there were no expectations for her to maintain her looks either
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:21 PM
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I’ve never made the claim that a chubby, poor man can date a supermodel by being funny. I’ve actually always encouraged people to learn how to attract those in their league, instead of lamenting over not attracting those who aren’t. Looks do matter. Its important that attraction is felt on both sides of the relationship. When someone dates another person who they really aren’t attracted to solely for their personality, then eventually the relationship fails. Its not wild that what separates some…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/25 05:20 PM
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So you were bothered that she wanted to be attracted to the man that she was dating? Attraction is an important part of dating. Personality matters too but most people don’t want to date someone who they aren’t attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 10:40 PM
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Yeah :/
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:27 AM
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It is what it is dude. I benefit from the double standard, even when I don’t want to. I would offer to pay for my portion of dates and my offers would be rejected. The men would insist. In my relationship now, my bf does the same thing. Even when we’ve discussed that I’ll cover some of it, he just tells me to keep my money and he’s got it. Is it the worst thing to benefit from? Absolutely not. Do I “enjoy exploiting men?” What? Hell no lol. I don’t exploit anyone. Men just like to impress when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 03:27 AM
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I was speaking in generalizations. Of course it doesn’t apply to every man in existence, but in general what I said applies. You can dislike it but it doesn’t make it any less true
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 10:23 PM
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There is merit in that. I have noticed that there hasn’t been as much change in gendered expectations aimed towards men as there have been towards women. Thus, leading to frustrations on both sides. I will say though that there has never been the expectation that men should get sex in return for paying for dates. Even gender roles expect the man to be chivalrous.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:45 PM
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This might piss a lot of people off but it’s because it is not hard to find. Even men who swear that they won’t pay on the first date, will do it for a woman that’s pretty enough to them. That was my bf before he met me. I had no idea that he commonly didn’t pay for most things in a relationship because he always did with me. Men, on the other hand, don’t have as much as an easy time finding a woman who will put out on the first date unless they’re talking for the explicit purpose of having a se…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/25 07:02 PM

I don’t think about it. Its determined by whoever happens to be walking on that side lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:18 AM

I wouldn’t need a friend to be chivalrous towards me lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:06 AM

I will say that I wish men who are romantically interested would stop pretending like they want to be friends. Don’t give me “special treatment” while acting like you want to be friends and then start treating me worse after you find out that I see you as you have presented yourself. Just express interest from the beginning. Then depending on my answer, treat me accordingly. Instead, I’m thinking that they’re just a really good friend when actually they’re only being so great because they want a…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:06 AM

Women confine emotionally in all of their friendships. That’s why women have better friendships overall than men. I have confined in my male friends and they have confined in me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 02:03 AM
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Personally, I preferred someone who had the same mindset as me before giving them the time of day. If they were not looking for anything serious and I was, then there was no point in continuing. They didn’t have to know if they wanted to be with me yet but they did have to know what they were looking for. Funny enough my boyfriend knew mid-way into our first date that he wanted me to be his girlfriend. He didn’t ask me until the 4th date so he wouldn’t freak me out lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/25 06:08 PM
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I side with women like 80% of the time. I have seen posts where I agreed with the premise of what some men say, but I usually don’t agree with their conclusions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/25 10:48 PM

I agree. I’ve never been rejected for my higher than average body count either. I’ve only seen men rage about it online.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 06:28 PM

Yes, they are hypocrites lol. The only one that’s arguable is the height one because men typically are taller than women but if a short woman only dates skyscrapers, like 6 feet and up, then her preference is absurd. What other answer were you expecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 06:27 PM

Yes, they are hypocrites lol. What other answer were you expecting?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 06:25 PM

The same way that short men rage at women who prefer tall men. They take it personally because they feel like society unfairly holds it against them. I don’t see the point though. I have a higher than average body count and I never struggled to find a partner. My boyfriend loves me to death. The consequences that you speak of are nonexistent. I couldn’t see myself being compatible or even being friends with a man who cares about that anyways. Those women need to consider that before they get in …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/25 06:25 PM

Its always been a running joke that men are awful. I just think that its more in our faces because of social media now, which breeds insecurity and warps perceptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/25 06:58 PM
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Monogamy? All I hear is how its natural for men to cheat
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/25 05:01 PM
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What are you talking about? I never said that any of that applies to my boyfriend. I’ve encountered men in the past with distorted standards but I never went as far as dating them. Get your eyes checked and reread my comment. I never once said that my boyfriend that was like the men that I’m describing. He’s nearly the opposite actually
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:05 PM
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Okay. Have whatever opinion on them that you want. I said what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 03:01 PM
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Show me where I said anything about dating them. I mentioned specifically the way that some men devalue pornstars, even when discussing them dating other people, and act like they’re so disgusting yet those same men, particularly the vocal ones, consume their content like crazy. Then they allow that content to distort their views of actual intimacy and will hold women in real life to those standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/25 12:25 AM
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It dawned on me when I realized that I really wanted a relationship, yet I was satisfied with no one. I had fallen in love before yet I still felt like he was missing something. Then when I did score men who had traits that I wanted, I realized that I didn’t actually want them. I was unhappy and incompatible with them. So I had to take a hard look at myself and my views on dating. I realized that I had internalized a lot of standards from online that deep down I didn’t actually care about. It wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 10:18 PM
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Thank you! That’s what they need to realize
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:33 PM
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According to society, men in my age group only want situationships and are obsessed with hookup culture. If I let that impact my views on dating, then I would have never found the man that I have now. Its not as extreme as you guys make it out to be. That’s the point. Its just online mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:33 PM
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They’re not going to become that person if they’re still falling for online mess. I say this as a woman who used to be that way. I like online expectations cloud my own expectations. I didn’t get past it until I self reflected and attended therapy. People who have the capacity to think for themselves will eventually and there are plenty of people who already do. Like she said, set your own boundaries and don’t worry about how other people view them. It will work and it will attract who you inten…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:28 PM
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Polyamorous people already do this and its both genders. Regardless, it doesn’t matter what women online push. You have the choice to date women who align with your views on relationships and courtship. Frankly, its the hypocrisy that women have a problem with. Men act like pornstars are so disgusting but then those same ones will watch their content, give them their money and expect their sexual partners to perform just like them (This usually happens subconsciously). Its the same vein with wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 08:18 PM
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Being a straight woman has nothing to do with dating a bisexual man. You can date someone of a different sexuality than you. I’m not saying that you have to but one doesn’t impact the other lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 04:53 AM
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Yes to all 3 because I’ve dated men in the past who fit all three lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/25 04:51 AM
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I guess that I’m not most women because I would regularly experience attraction to strangers on the street. To address your point, claiming that the world doesn’t cater to male sexuality just because men often see women that they can’t be with is pretty absurd. How does that change that the media intentionally caters to men’s sexual desires?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/25 01:36 PM
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This is a lie. I know plenty of women who were whores and then when they decided to settle down; they got married easily
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/25 12:57 AM

Unless those women are mentally or from the underbelly of society, then I don’t think that receiving attention from them is an indicator that something is off. They’re just women that you aren’t attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 03:43 PM
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This was very written. It’s given me a new perspective on things
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/25 03:40 AM
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I mean I was the young woman who dated older men and I can confirm that 75% of the time they are losers. They usually have some communication flaw or all they have is their money to get attention, hence why they want young women who are broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 04:40 PM

And has it fixed anything? Its been around for years yet men are still falling behind. It was never a real solution. Its just a space for grifters and men to profit off of other men’s misery and bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 08:36 PM

Honestly I don’t even like the framing. Men should care about their fellow men’s issues enough to do something about it. Men don’t organize for one another but expect us to do it for them and ourselves. It doesn’t work that way. Men have done nothing about the mental health epidemic in young boys but blame women and hype up the manosphere. They can see that young men are falling behind but they only bring it up to win arguments. Men need to stop worrying about whether we care and start caring th…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 03:48 PM

You wanting to goon is not an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/25 03:44 PM
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I don’t. However I do agree that women tend to be more physically appealing overall
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 07:24 PM
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You nailed it. With a partner like this, you pretty much are living like a single woman. You’re handling the entire household on your own including emotionally managing them, hence why women in these situations are settling for divorce instead. At least with a divorce, they will still be doing the same labor but without another adult to take care of
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:24 AM
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That’s why uneven emotional labor is so exhausting. It is like dealing with a kid. Luckily I don’t deal with this in my relationship but imagine having to micromanage your partner because if you don’t, nothing will get managed.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:21 AM
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I love how you gave the most robust and digestible answer to his question, yet he argued every single point until he couldn’t anymore and then just stopped responding. He didn’t concede that you had a point or even acknowledge that what you’re saying makes sense. This is why women just give up on explaining ourselves lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/25 12:20 AM
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You literally added your point at the very end. So yes you did have one. The entire second paragraph was a lie lol. To address your last paragraph, you’re just intentionally being obtuse. In a scenario that would never happen and means to the end would be to give us financial freedom, I would let my boyfriend sleep with another woman once. The entire premise is based on the fact that he wouldn’t be cheating, it would be with my permission and for us. Not to mention, the woman wouldn’t really be …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 11:57 PM
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Oh well dude. Whether you see it as a principle or not, I still do and I know that I’m monogamous. In a hypothetical that would never happen, I would bend a little. The horror. I don’t see the point in arguing about it or why you want to know. Usually debates have a point, so what is your end goal? Why do you care about any of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/25 07:40 PM
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So you in principle are not opposed to your men sleeping with other women… I’m not opposed to him having sex with another woman once for 10 million dollars. That does mean that I am not opposed to him cheating. I have no interest in sharing my man with any woman but in this scenario where it would be rewarded with substantial financial gain, I would just for once. I would also agree to allowing my finger to get cut off if it were in exchange for $80 million. Does that mean that I’m okay with get…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 10:51 PM
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I would be bothered but not nearly as much as he would be. I wouldn’t feel too jealous because I would know that he’s only sleeping with her for the money and not because he really just wants to cheat on me. I would still be jealous but the $10 million would outweigh it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 09:44 PM
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Did you read my comment or just the last sentence? I already picked.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 09:24 PM
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My man would not want Sydney Sweeney lol but I would let him cheat for the $10 million. He wouldn’t be able to get over it if I were the one who did it and we still need the money, so I would just let him. The only stipulation would be that money would have to be deposited into my account because he is too generous with his family lol. If he wasn’t such a jealous baby (I say that with love), I would have us both do it so we could get $20 million lol
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/25 06:31 PM
9

How can physical contact with others ever be promised?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:14 AM
4

What was the article that you wish that you never read? I’m just curious
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/25 03:13 AM
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That’s a fair list. My nonnegotiables are Must make the same amount or more money than me. We’re both physically attracted to each other. Doesn’t enjoy destructive behaviors. Wants children. Funny and talkative. Affectionate. Honest, reliable, loyal and everything else that comes with being a dependable partner. Smart and capable. Has skills and abilities in areas that I lack. Able to have emotional conversations without getting angry and raising his voice. Respects me as a human being. Leans mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 02:56 AM
1

Is that what the voices in your head have told you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 11:09 PM
1

Is it the ambiguity or the voices in your head? The moment that I disproved your assumptions, you decided to just make up your own conclusions. My boundaries are what they are. I don’t mind jokingly flirting or platonic touches because I’m a very affectionate person, including platonically. I hug and touch my friends often but male friends often take it wrong. So I stopped being that way with them. I have no idea what resentment you’re talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:46 PM
1

What are you even talking about? 😂 you really like to come to your own conclusions, don’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:23 PM
1

Lmao dude you did not read a word of what I said did you? I literally said that I used to jokingly flirt with my male friends just as much as my female friends until they kept getting the wrong idea. Its my narcissistic projection, while it was the men who would assume that I wanted more just because I was play flirting with them? Lmao what you accused me of is what your fellow men do. Maybe if you didn’t rage skim and actually read what I said, you would have made such a baseless accusation aga…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 09:20 PM
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Dude you’re spouting pure nonsense. I don’t care if my male friends find me attractive. I’m not ugly, so its expected. Its when they get in their feelings when I don’t return the same feelings or find them attractive. I commonly jokingly flirt with my friends. Me and my female friends get so flirty with each other that you would think that we were dating lol. Its all in good fun. When I was younger, I was the same with my male friends until they kept getting the wrong idea. Then when I would put…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 08:18 PM
0

How is “I’m not superficial” an indicator that someone really isn’t lol? Someone saying that they aren’t is more suspicious than them not saying anything at all. Very poor example. The superficial man, which was a better example, will attract other superficial women. As the post said.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 04:11 PM
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If there wasn’t a literal male loneliness epidemic that was leading to suicide and mass shootings, then maybe you could just call it “the worst” as if it was the minority. However, its an epidemic for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:26 PM
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Its not from my lens, its from the stats. While men are thinking “How important is this?”, their fellow men are killing themselves. They’re also reporting having far less friends and even less people to confide emotionally to. There’s a literal male loneliness epidemic and you think that male connections are doing just fine? Every community has something to work on and men need to work on actually being emotionally safe for one another instead of thinking that its makes them “soft”. Your initial…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:24 PM
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Well if we’re speaking about my experience, which you suggested that maybe I was leading them on then none of that applies. In fact, in my experience, the male friends who accused me of leading them on, would intentionally engineer situations similar to the ones that you described. For example, they would ask to hangout and suggest going downtown. I would tell them that I don’t have the money, so we can either hang another time or do something less expensive that night. They would either say tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 03:15 PM
2

I feel like you missed what she said. Andrew Tate is actually a perfect example of what you said because he is a superficial man who only attracts superficial women. Those women who he manipulates into cam girling do not have much beyond their looks and that’s what he likes. So many of the men who claim that personality doesn’t matter are not actually invested in their personalities. They just want quick results to get laid AKA they want superficial results and then wonder why it doesn’t work.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:58 PM
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Then fix your community. You guys always shift to us instead of focusing on the fact that your own gender doesn’t offer you any solace. Female friendships can be a mess because we’re human but when we’re good friends to each other, there’s genuine vulnerability. There’s no fear of being vulnerable or emotional amongst each other. Men don’t offer that to each other as much. Fix your own gender dynamics first
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:54 PM
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I love how you’re just glossing over that men, your own gender, don’t give a fuck about each other’s emotions. They care less than you’re accusing women of it. There’s a reason why men could be surrounded by male friends and still feel lonely, while women experience the opposite. If women cared so little then men wouldn’t need us to have someone that makes them feel whole.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:51 PM
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How was I leading them on when I was treating them like a friend? Men just interpret friendly actions from women as flirting.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:48 PM
3

Not in my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/25 02:47 AM
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Yet when I befriended men with genuine intentions, as in just wanting to make a friend, they still misunderstood. The fact that men view women’s attempts to befriend them as potentially apart of a “strategy” is why it shouldn’t be us on to befriend you. You see us with bad intentions anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 11:45 PM
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This. This is what I have always said. The reason why male friendships feel so empty is because they are devoid of actual emotion and vulnerability. Men feel like they can only show that side with romantic partners and so they fail to create that comfortability with one another.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:09 PM
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Actually when I was very lonely, making friends did cure it. I still longed for a romantic relationship, hence why I’m in one now, but I wasn’t lonely anymore. I still felt surrounded by love and good company with or without a bf. You can’t put your entire social life on one person.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:05 PM
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Dude do you know how befriending men often goes? I have tried to genuinely befriend several and majority of them ended up wanting more. Then I was either accused of leading them on or they would drop me. So many men whine about the friend zone, especially men like who follow Red Pill logic, and then you blame women for not befriending them? The lack of accountability is astounding.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/25 10:03 PM
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I would rather marry a nerdy tech geek, as long as he’s funny and makes great company. An NBA player would no doubt be a cheater and his schedule would be too demanding of his time. Not to mention, I have no interest in basketball and I don’t want to have to attend his games. I don’t really do hookups. So, just being with the nerdy tech geek would be more fulfilling. We would have more in common
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 08:42 PM

Yes, you nailed it. I’m not trying to stereotype those women but that is often the case. The ones who want something genuine are not holding out for foreign men. They find it quickly with men within their country. The ones looking for opportunities go for the foreigners. The fact that passport bros, specifically the ones who really want a wife, don’t realize this is really sad to me. Its willful ignorance because they don’t want to let go of the dream that dating overseas will solve all of their…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 06:14 PM
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Personally nah because even at 15 years older, that’s just a guy who is close to his 40s. That’s not too terrible
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:09 PM
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No because why does he have to delude himself into thinking that I’m a virgin to love me? 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:04 PM
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The fact that he actually cares enough to know about you. The others don’t seem to at all
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:03 PM
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Why was everyone given extremely awful downsides except The Daddy? 😂😂 Of course I would choose him if my only options are Someone who could give me an STI and has no real career or prospects. Even if I did “tame” him, I wouldn’t really build much with him because he has nothing going on. Someone who is boring af, would offer zero good company, never fucks me, and oddly thinks that I’m a virgin even though I never told him that (wtf??) The hot virgin who would be my type if he wasn’t a man child.…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 04:02 PM

The assumption that these kinds of women are only in prostitution-prone areas is the problem. I’m not worried about you. Your logic is just flawed and you posted in a debate sub, so I will point that out lol. If anything, you should figure out why you have failed to attract traditional women in your country and why they must be virgins for you to be satisfied. It just sounds like insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:52 PM

And I’m saying that traditional men assuming that they will find a traditional virgin woman amongst the women who will be interested in them is less likely than you’re assuming. You mentioned virginity for a reason. Clearly it is important to you and I’m telling you that the women who are willing to engage with foreigners are more than likely not virgins and have engaged with them before
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:44 PM

I don’t understand where the “traditional man” comes into play here. Everyone knows that “passport bros” is just a nice word for sex tourist. The countries that are often targeted are also aware of this. Do you think that the women who are willing to benefit from it are really traditional virgins? Just waiting for the right foreign man to sweet them off their feet before entering the bedroom? Cmon now. Your lust for this idealized woman that you’ve formed in your head has clouded your judgement …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/10/25 03:35 PM
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Nailed it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/25 05:30 PM
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You immediately went to material. In this instance, if he is properly offering his time to the household then he is offering something. If he’s doing his fair share of the housework and child rearing, which would be most of it since he is not the financial backbone of the family then he is offering something. There is a woman out there for him. Not me because I would never want a man like that but for the right woman, he has something to offer. Now if he neglects his household duties and she’s t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:10 PM
2

List actual examples
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:44 PM
1

What aligns
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 03:18 PM
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Its not objective. What someone offers may not work for you but work for the next person. If you feel like they are not really worth it, then maybe they aren’t. I just know that in my personal experience, I have seen so many women pick men who are no good because they believe “not deserving” to mean no standards at all. I will say that if you find yourself not attracting the kind of person that you want, then you might need to reevaluate what you’re looking for and if it is really within your le…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:17 AM
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Hence why I added in another comment that it must be realistic. If someone thinks they deserve more than what they really they do, they will fail and 9/10 never receive it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 07:03 AM
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Have whatever opinion you would like to. I just know that mindset matters. You don’t deserve anything in the traditional sense as in no one should be forced, but knowing your self worth and what you don’t deserve is important. Not knowing that is why so many women end up in relationships with walking red flags and deadbeats. You have to have a healthy amount of ego when you decide to partner with someone in order to not just put up with anything. I told myself what I deserved and I became the ki…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 06:02 AM
2

I think that I understood what you’re saying
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 05:36 AM
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👍🏾
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 04:16 AM
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Lmao dude, do you really think that you will find someone of quality if you require nothing from them? You are genuinely being obtuse here lol. If you want to call it transactional, then so be it, but don’t act as if that’s a negative thing. You should have standards and expectations of anyone that you involve yourself with. If those standards seem transactional, then oh well. There is no way that I would ever involve myself with someone who cannot offer what I can, hence why my boyfriend is not…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:15 AM
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Probably. I just know that in my experience it didn’t take long. After one date, my bf knew that he wanted to be with me but he didn’t ask until the 3rd one so that he wouldnt freak me out lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 01:11 AM
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Because I always have something to offer, so I expect the same. Its not transactional to not want to be burdened. Having something to offer means that they can add to my life instead of taking from it. Having standards doesn’t equal transactional
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:36 AM
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And who mentioned transactional? You did. I said “offer”. Every person, regardless of gender, needs to offer something in a relationship or it will not work. So, everyone should know that they deserving of something in a relationship. Everyone decides what that is for themselves but we should all have an idea of it. You seem to think having standards = transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:29 AM
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And whose fault is it that we don’t need to have as much charisma? It goes back to the original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:26 AM
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That’s a common thing that certain kinds of men say. If anything, it shows the absurdity of how harshly we’ve demonized prostitution. It should be that you have expectations of who you enter a lifelong commitment with. I love how you only read the “offer” part and nothing else. If you know what you bring to the table, then you deserve someone who will match what you’re looking for (If it is realistic and truly matches with what you offer). Women, who have the mindset that you think is so great, …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:19 AM
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I’m entitled to being treated with love, respect, kindness, romance, loyalty and devotion. Knowing that I deserved no less is why I am in a happy relationship now
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:13 AM
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Women who think that they don’t deserve anything tend to end up with men who offer them nothing. The type of men who you guys say they should have chosen better. Everyone should have a healthy amount of ego and knowing what they deserve when entering into a partnership with someone else. Heavy emphasis on healthy because it should be realistic but it should be a thing regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/25 12:12 AM
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Funny, reliable, considerate I found a man just like that too lol and more. He’s everything that I could envision ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 11:53 PM
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I would assume that hookups aren’t just two people walking in silence until they have sex and then going back to silence afterwards lol. Vibes do factor into sexual attraction and vibes depend on looks and personality. Personally, men in bars always seemed like too much to me. Like they were too loud or too pushy, etc. I’ve always preferred men who were more lowkey but still could carry a conversation. So, them being extroverted doesn’t mean anything to people who don’t care about that. I was al…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:22 PM
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“Can get” seems loaded. The selection is wider on the apps because the range is wider. A lot of men don’t go to bars. None of the guys that I’ve dated have been bar-goers and a lot of women aren’t either. Really only select personality types go to bars regularly. If those aren’t your type, then you’re really limiting yourself if you rely on that venue as your only source of finding potential hookups. There are all kinds of men that you wouldn’t meet. Not because you wouldn’t have a chance with t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:59 PM
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I guess it depends on perception. I personally wouldn’t think that its safer because you only get a snapshot of the guy’s presence at the bar before going home with him. Not to mention, you’re under the influence so that would also cloud your judgement. Plus, you may not want your friends to always know who you’re hooking up with. On the apps, you have the option to chat, FaceTime, and vet them more thoroughly. Video chatting can tell you what their vibe is before meeting them in person. There’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:51 PM
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Interacting with strangers, who are men, is always dangerous for women. Hooking up with a stranger after a few hours on Tinder is just as dangerous as hooking up with a stranger at the bar. Hence why I never did hookups lol, but for people who are willing to take that chance, the apps are quicker and more efficient.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:37 PM
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The simple answer is that it is easier. Humans like the path of least resistance. Going to a bar means that you have to get all dolled up, use your gas or pay for an Uber to get there and then sit and wait. Not just waiting for someone to approach you but also waiting for someone worth hooking up with. With dating apps, its literally at your finger tips. For example, I personally never used dating apps for hookups because I was never the hookup type but that didn’t stop men who wanted them from …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:25 PM
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It wasn’t too hard for me
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:51 PM
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You can’t, so don’t lol. You are deep in this Redpill mindset, so just date women who have had as little action as you have. I don’t think that women who have had as much experience as threesomes and super kinky sex lives will be very satisfied with you anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 09:05 AM
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She loves that man with everything in her. She never hesitates to brag about him. He’s recently been diagnosed with MS and I’ve never seen her so sad
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 12:39 AM
0

You can ask up front. If it matters to you, you should also find a woman who it matters to as well. Hiding your actual attitude towards it is just delaying the inevitable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 11:55 PM
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I’ve noticed this lol. I just never said it because I didn’t want to come off as prejudiced.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 11:46 PM
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More women over 40 are having children than teenage girls in my country. “As likely” yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 11:44 PM
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I’ve been saying this lol. Only online do these women die alone. If a woman has her standards in order, it doesn’t matter how “low quality” she is considered, she will find someone
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 11:43 PM
3

Your average, saggy, chubby middle-aged woman is still considered a commodity to average, saggy, chubby middle-aged men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 11:41 PM
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I’ve seen the opposite. Unless the women are known around town, they don’t struggle. My hairstylist has had sex with over 200 men (She told me) and she’s married lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 11:40 PM
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No it is not. If you hire an escort, who is not being trafficked, then there is nothing unethical about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/25 04:42 PM

Its so funny because this really doesn’t happen in real life. Genuinely too many men online, who don’t date, and do not have any romantic prospects, think they know how men who are actually dating operate when they don’t. I have never met a woman who was very sexually active in her younger years struggle to find a partner, including myself. Yes that includes men who are quality partners. Men who actually date care way less about body count than men who wish that they could date but have found no…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:55 PM

Pornstars are a pretty drastic example lol. Mia Khalifa also shows signs of mental illness. Regular women who just slept around in college don’t struggle to find partners, including ones who are a step above them, because a lot of men actually don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:51 PM

Yeah they probably do fall under the category of ever growing young adult virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:46 PM

Bingo. I have a higher than average body count. Nothing crazy or insane but one that men online swear is a dealbreaker and I’ll die alone. Yet, I have a boyfriend who is head over heels for me and couldn’t care less. Online rarely ever matches reality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:45 PM

Then date who fits what you view as stability. Don’t “moralize” your preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:42 PM
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Yeah I love it, as long as it’s respectful lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/25 03:41 PM
0

Man, the US already funds enough dumb shit with my taxes that I don’t agree with. The last thing that I need is for them to add “subsidized pussy” onto the list 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/25 08:28 PM
2

Okay? What I meant by subjective is that slutty can be pretty. You think it isn’t but that’s your subjective opinion. Slutty outfits are a thing but I’ve seen plenty that I thought were beautiful. You misunderstood what I was saying. That’s on you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:20 PM
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Show me where I said that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 09:08 PM
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That’s why pretty is subjective. If you don’t like it, then don’t wear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 07:53 PM
2

Because I like how provocative clothing looks and truly, I am trying to impress the women more. I hate to say it but impressing men is easy. I don’t have to dress provocatively to do that. I’ve had men hit on me in sweatpants, baggy capris, t-shirts, etc. If I really was only aiming to impress men, I would try a lot less honestly. However, women are much harder to impress and that’s who I’m aiming for. I already have boyfriend who loves everything that I wear, so I’m trying to get compliments fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/25 07:53 PM

See, Throwawaytradesmen2. Exhibit A of exactly what I was talking about. Now you can change that “never” to that you have. This guy is a prime example of what OP and I are talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 07:45 PM

Well I’m not talking about those cultures obviously. I’m talking about societies that are civilized.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:56 PM

I don’t need to because my comment stands alone. I’m talking about men who hate sluts. I mentioned how they respond to tragedies for a reason. You want to talk about something else when I already clarified what I’m talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:48 PM

Nowhere in the post did they mention preference and their edit literally clarifies that their post is not about that. They said “hatred” for a reason. I built my comment off of what the post is about. Like?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:35 PM

Okay so the promiscuous people who don’t have children are exempt from your hatred, I presume?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:24 PM

Not once did I mention dating, nor did I mention conservatives. I specifically said that the hatred of them becomes apparent when a tragedy happens. That doesn’t just include sexual assault. It can include murder or suicide. The reaction by men who hate sluts, which is what is being discussed, is either apathetic at best or gleeful at worst. That is what I am talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:23 PM

Actions matter more than whatever anyone is thinking. I see promiscuous women get married regularly. If a woman is good enough to marry, then the repulsion isn’t that deep. Reddit is a different ecosystem, especially a subreddit like this. In the real world, people talk a big game but their actions often contradict. Like I said, the promiscuity of a woman matters less in the real world than the proximity of her promiscuity. Unless she slept with the crew or someone in the crew, the right man for…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 06:19 PM

If you’re a pursuing a woman and she used to be promiscuous, what do you want her to do about you having a problem it? She can’t change the past. You’re entitled to your opinion, but there’s really nothing to do with that information lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 05:57 PM

We are speaking about a certain type of hatred, no? The specific hatred of promiscuous women. That hatred is shown by the way that some people discuss and dismiss their deaths. Its not just a general dismissal.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:43 PM

Indian is an extremely conservative country, yet all of that still happens. Blaming the world’s problems on promiscuous women doesn’t make it true.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:34 PM

I’ve seen a lot former promiscuous women get married. Honestly the reaction that men claim to have towards them is overblown. Unless the woman had sex with their friends or they saw her promiscuous behavior, they usually don’t care
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:10 PM

There are men in this thread admitting to hating them lol. When something terrible happens to a woman who was a promiscuous, you see the hatred in the way that the tragedy is dismissed by certain people
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:07 PM

Why does that translate to hate though? Its one thing to not want them as a partner but hating them because of what they’re doing with their sexual life is absurd
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:06 PM

Then you’re not who they were asking lol
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:05 PM

So that means you hate them? Because your views towards them means that you can’t marry them? What a strange mindset
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 04:05 PM
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Personally, I need my boyfriend lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 10:10 PM

I mean what point are you trying to prove here, bud? I shared my anecdotal experience and it doesn’t match what you’re assuming. Its also uncommon to see attractive men with less attractive women, although it does happen. It feels like you’re just making this point to get out whatever gripes you have
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 02:05 AM

I’m the more attractive one. Its funny because its usually that way. You typically hear about how women regularly date men who are less attractive than them. My boyfriend frequently hears “You’re a lucky man”, not the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/25 01:38 AM
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You made this post to argue instead of to earnestly engage, didn’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:05 PM
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If you’re going based off your experience, so are we. My boyfriend is not the Chad that the Red Pill hyper fixates on, yet he’s in a relationship and happy. I don’t see the reality that Red Pillers see
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/25 03:00 PM
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It was rhetoric and you proving my point, to modern women its always about themselves. You asked me a question about me to prove some silly point. I answered it because you’re not the first one to try to use that one. I mentioned that I wasn’t insecure about it to illustrate that a lot of these comments, including yourself, seem to have a problem with a simple discussion about one of the most important aspects of an adult’s life because of insecurity. Not because its actually a negative or point…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 08:54 PM
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Oh well? Your job is a very important aspect of your life. Everyone should have an idea of what the person that they’re pursuing does for living to see if their lifestyles fit. You don’t want to find out later. Now I don’t agree with anyone being tactless or drilling someone. However, having a back and forth discussion about it where you both share what you do and what that entails is fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 08:08 PM
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Like I said, I get not wanting to be drilled about it and everyone should have tact when asking anything, so of course it shouldn’t be the first question but I’m talking about a general conversation about what you do for a living. My boyfriend voluntarily told me during one of our first conversations lol, but when I asked him more about his job on her first date, he didn’t hesitate to share and I didn’t hesitate to share about my job either. It was a mutual conversation. That’s what I’m talking …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 08:01 PM
1

Because a woman asks what you do for a living?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 07:57 PM
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Hon, I weigh 122 pounds. How much do you weigh? I’m not insecure over my weight, so I don’t mind answering it. Weight wouldn’t even be a question on a first date because they can literally see me. There’s their answer. A question like weight is a great example actually because its something that, regardless of how sensitive you are about it, it will be revealed and it will have an impact whether good or bad. Its a mundane fact about yourself that your partner will find out about. Its the same wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 07:32 PM
2

Its really odd seeing such intense push back to information that is so mundane. Your job and what it entails will come up eventually in the relationship. Why does it matter whether you discuss it on the first date or later? I get not wanting to be drilled but your date simply asking you about it should not be a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:20 PM
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I mean knowing someone’s job is just basic information. I knew where my boyfriend worked before we even went on a date. “What do you do for a living” is a very mundane question and I have never hesitated to answer it, even when I was unemployed. Nor had I ever encountered a man who hesitated to answer either
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/25 06:13 PM
1

What about a former prostitute
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 06:42 AM
2

I agree. The echo chambers created by the algorithm often create this false sense of reality for a lot of people. Its all they’re seeing so they think that it reflects most people’s worldview. I wont pretend like I haven’t been susceptible to it
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:06 PM
2

I agree. I wouldn’t want to be the man in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:51 PM
3

Feminists online are living in a utopia. One where every woman has read feminist theory and went to therapy for their issues. In the real world, abusers easily find partners because they know how to sniff out women who are insecure and desperate and have unresolved problems. There’s way more of those women than feminists care to admit. Not to mention, those men have learned how to do this with a cloak of superficial charm. If an abuser is handsome, he’ll sniff out desperate attractive women. If …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 06:43 PM
4

Individually this is a good sentiment but we are all, to some degree, living based on what we were taught culturally. Many women do reject this idea and they face a lot of backlash for it because what is believed as a collective will always have power
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 06:13 PM
3

Yeah this is a good point. Women and even men are taught to see men as the dirty and “impure” gender that is always out to get you. This is taught both consciously and subconsciously, hence why there are women who are repelled by men who approach them. Not to mention, teaching one gender that the other will “taint” them if they engage in mutually beneficial sex will of course result in that gender being more selective in who they choose to “taint” them. Its odd how Red Pill men will happily buy …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 06:11 PM
1

You can go into public and still not socialize with others. Elliot Rogers did it often.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 09:40 PM
1

If you don’t have a remarkable face or just look mid, yeah your looks wont garner interest alone. You have to put yourself out there and make yourself known. Then your personality plays a factor
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 08:08 PM
1

I just don’t agree. Its a dating app. Only certain kinds of people use dating apps. Not to mention, I’ve already said multiple times that I can’t speak for other women. So there’s nothing for me to say about women on OkCupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 07:21 PM
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I think that the suicide rate would drop because men would feel safe to open up about their emotions and better handle them. I also think that they would not turn to destructive behaviors as much either. It would be a better world overall.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/25 05:32 AM
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Yes an equal percentage of her income is fair, but really that’s just the case when you date someone who makes less. You can’t expect them to be able to keep up lol. My boyfriend paid for pretty much all of our dates when we first because I was just a pet sitter and in a really tight financial spot. I made pretty much nothing compared to his established career. He was okay with it because he knew beforehand and he didn’t want to take the little bit of money that I had. I get why you’re concerned…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 09:08 PM
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My relationship isn’t financially equal. He makes a lot more than me, so he pays more overall. We didn’t really discuss this. That’s just how it turned out because he always has made more. If I were single, I would be turned off if someone in his financial situation wanted to go 50/50 because I would wonder why they’re dating someone like me who they know makes less. If we’re both making the same amount, I wouldn’t mind. I can’t speak on childcare because I don’t have kids lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 08:47 PM
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No, I don’t. I don’t really want to research it either. If you want to provide your opinion, I’ll take that but I don’t want to research for a debate topic on Reddit. I’m also not going to used a study based on an app that less than a quarter of my population uses as fact either. I’ve provided what I view as average before in another comment but it was months ago. Let me see if I can find it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:33 AM
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I agree that there are many women on both sides. I have seen so many unattractive men, in my opinion, who are in relationships. My father is 5’1, and has a lazy eye. Yet he has never had a problem attracting women, including women taller than him, because of how funny and charming he is. Not to mention, he’s an awful person behind the superficial charm. That’s just one example. Now of course pretty privilege is a thing. Conventionally attractive people of all genders get away with more than ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:27 AM
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I mean anything based on OkCupid results is just not taken seriously by me, sorry. Only 30% of adults in my country use dating apps and even less use OkCupid. It isn’t even in the top 3. Not to mention, I don’t speak for those women, hence why I said that I can only speak for myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 04:22 AM
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There are some blue pillers who are known to dive very hard into the “Its all about personality” mindset. I only lean into it when I see guys who have attracted zero women and are looking for advice because I don’t know what they look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:58 AM
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I can only speak for myself and women like me. Looks do matter to me. I never said that they didn’t. If a guy is ugly, I don’t want him but can I date an average looking dude with a great personality? Yes. That’s what I’m saying. I never once that looks don’t matter. You want me to admit what I’ve already said?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:48 AM

Did the same woman say that or different ones and you’ve chosen to interpret it as a contradiction?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:21 AM
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Lmao this killed me
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:19 AM
-1

You nailed it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:18 AM
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I mean I didn’t lol. I wasn’t around then but it is true that women care about more than looks. That doesn’t mean that we want to date someone who we find butt ugly, however we can grow strong attraction to someone who looks average but has a great personality. I would say that I’ve found myself saying “Attraction matters” and not expanding it when I’ve encountered incels say mess like “Only if you’re attractive” and stuff like that as if its a problem that women want to be attracted to their pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:14 AM
1

This explains a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/25 02:36 AM
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You have an attitude for what? I didn’t make a statement on that either way. I’m just saying that I typically dress for who I’m trying to impress, which everyone should do. Know your audience. I already have a boyfriend, so I’m usually trying to impress other ladies. I can only speak on my experience
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:39 PM
3

Yep. I still can admire a nice body but I can still deem an unconventionally attractive body as attractive if the rest looks good
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:36 PM
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Yes exactly lol. Men and women notice and appreciate different things
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:35 PM
2

I don’t get it lol. What do the two have to do with each other
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 11:35 PM
3

Maybe they do. I just know that I usually dress to impress women over men lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:54 PM
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I always mean it. Men and women differ in what they find attractive because we’re focusing on different features. For example, a woman being heavy set doesn’t take away from her attractiveness to me if she’s wearing an outfit that compliments her weight well, her makeup matches, her hair looks good and her skin is clear. That’s what I’m noticing. I’m also noticing how her features compliment her face and her overall vibe. I also admire women for having features that I lack but would like to have…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/25 08:44 PM
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Probably not 💀
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/25 05:03 PM
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So because you’ve never heard of it that makes it small? I missed the part when you were the arbiter of that lol. This is exactly what I mean by you have tunnel vision. You think that just because you don’t see it, its not happening. It literally is. Not to mention, you only provided one example of what you’re claiming, yet I provided three and you dismissed two and completely ignored one. The one that you conveniently ignored destroys your whole argument because she did exactly what you claim t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:20 AM
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Did you miss that him and I had compatibility issues in the beginning? We didn’t improve that by not having hard conversations about our performance. He knows that he isn’t the best that I’ve ever had. He’s literally next to me right now as I type this. What matters most to him and I is the totality of our relationship, not just the sex, especially since its still great
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:54 PM

I’m all for legalized sex work, but it’s not like there’s really anything now stopping men from hiring sex work. Even where its illegal, its still rampant.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 08:44 PM

Those women can claim to speak for women but they’re just really talking about their own preferences and women who agree back them up. I had no problem being approached when I was single. Dating apps are only used by a small percentage of the population, not even close to most.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:29 PM
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You are so hyper focused on height and stuck in your tunnel vision that you can’t see that it does happen to women. Lori Harvey has never directly stated her type are rich, powerful men yet when people noticed, they judged her. Doja Cat never stated that her type is white men but when people noticed, they judged. Noor Alfallah, who is only known for dating much older wealthy men in the industry, has never been vocal about her preferences yet she is only known for them. She fucks old rich men and…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 06:22 PM

Women online. Yall need to stop thinking that everything online is gospel. Not to mention, you can meet people organically through groups and shared hobby where you don’t necessarily need to approach strangers. If dating apps were the preferred method to meet partners then most adults would be on them but they are not and most women definitely aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:48 PM

Dude no 🤦🏾‍♀️ the point is that apps are oversaturated with men
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:31 PM

What do you expect society to do about this? Technological advancements in a wealth country are inevitable. So men need to adapt to the new landscape instead of trying to hold onto the old one. Social interactions are a need for everyone but its up to us to forge them. What else do you want to happen? Government intervention
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:29 PM
2

So? That negative reputation hasn’t affected his career or accolades. Not to mention that negative reputation is largely online. It hasn’t affected his actual life in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:23 PM
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The analogy doesn’t work because we’re talking about people. A used car cannot function the same way as a brand new, updated one. A woman with a high body count can be just as good of a partner as a woman without one. Your analogy is a false equivalent. Also it is not an accomplishment for anyone to have lots of sex with different people. Its just sex. Hypocrisy is hypocrisy no matter how you spin it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:20 PM
1

Nailed it. That’s literally the crux of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 05:15 PM
1

Yeah that’s a good comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 04:30 PM
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You will still need to pleasure her. If you’re willing to work through any intimacy issues, then go for it but if your penis is too small or you two are just way too sexually incompatible (Which she can discover whether she has had sex before or not) then she will realize it regardless. She may choose to tolerate it but don’t think that marrying a virgin means that you wont encounter intimacy pitfalls, especially if you’re only with her because you too insecure to be with a woman who has been se…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:20 AM
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The aim is not to be better than anyone else but to pleasure your partner. If you fail to do that, she will be displeased no matter what. A virgin doesn’t need to have sex with other people to recognize when that sex with her first and only partner doesn’t feel good
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 09:10 AM
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I never said that all of our sexual incompatibilities are resolved, but our sex life is still great. It doesn’t have to be perfect or a 10/10 for me to enjoy it. Like I already said, I don’t dread it, and I enjoy myself. So does he. That’s what matters. You still classify yourself as the second group. I specifically said that I lean more towards the second group, as in, I relate more to that mindset than not. I also made sure to point out that although I lean more toward that category, in practi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/25 02:37 AM
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Perfectly stated
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:52 PM
5

Very good point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:12 PM
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I just don’t see “Not the best” as a sacrifice. When my partner and I have sex, I am pleased. As long as I’m not dreading it or just laying there, waiting for it to be over, then I don’t consider myself sacrificing a good sex life. Its pleasurable and enjoyable on both ends and that’s enough. It doesn’t need to be the best that I’ve ever had. I did admit that makes me someone who is willing to lower expectations in sexual compatibility for the right one, hence why I acknowledged that women like …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:07 PM
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My boyfriend and I didn’t have the best sexual compatibility in the beginning but with honest communication and genuine effort, we both improved. So I guess I lean more towards the second category of women because I didn’t see our struggles in bed as a dealbreaker. However I didn’t sacrifice that part of my life either because I voiced my displeasure, allowing us both to improve. So in practice, I’m neither.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:50 PM
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Lol it happens to all of us
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:40 PM
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Well, yes. The post uses the words “sexual attraction” but the actual context of the post relates to sexual compatibility than just raw attraction. The mentions of “Their husband is not the best sex they’ve ever had” and “Some men also say their wife isn’t the best” are focused on the quality of the sex, not just the desire to have it like sexual attraction. So yeah I’m talking about sexual compatibility
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:30 PM
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Physical attraction ≠ sexual attraction. I have met men who were very attractive to me but ultimately lackluster in bed. My boyfriend and I struggled with that issue early on but by addressing it, we were able to work through it by him improving in some areas and me improving as well. I definitely agree that its a flaw for women to remain quiet and tolerate unfulfilling sex, especially when they recognized that it was a problem early on. There should be open dialogue on both sides on what feels …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:17 PM
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Cheating is a personality flaw and obviously I am not talking about people who cheat. It is definitely not something that is common in my circles, so I can’t speak for or from the perspective of those women. Maybe there is someone else in the thread who can
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:04 PM
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I had a feeling that was what you meant but I didn’t want to assume. While its true that virgin women don’t have anyone to compare their first and only partner to, it doesn’t change that they will recognize if the sex feels good or not. I have seen it often in hyper religious communities where even though the woman’s husband was her first, they still have intimacy issues. Its clear that she doesn’t particularly enjoy sex but only does it to please him. The difference is that she may think that n…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:00 PM
0

Ohhhhh this explains it
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:51 PM
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I think that it depends on the woman and her priorities. There are many women who highly value sexual attraction and its a must that their life partner must optimally sexually satisfy them. However, there are other women who are comfortable with sacrificing this to an extent if it means having a loving partner who checks all of the other boxes. It really depends on what matters the most to each person. I don’t see what virgin women have to do with what you said. Can you clarify why you mentioned…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 06:50 PM
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I agree that we simply disagreed and that’s why it was very silly and frankly, sad, of you to resort to insulting me over my gender just because I chose not to engage with your comment. It was one word. So yes, there was no need for you to get so emotional, that is correct. Next time, aim to correct yourself before you get so worked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 09:31 AM
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Defeat? Its Reddit, hon. I still don’t agree and I don’t need to. Its not exactly worth debating beyond as much as I have because its just about passport bros. They arent that important in the grand scheme of things. You said your piece. Your need to feel like you won something on a Reddit thread is sad. Prototypical insecure male.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:59 AM
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Gotcha
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 08:27 AM
0

Okay doll
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:23 AM
0

Yes sweetie, give us nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 07:06 AM
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You didn’t need to give details of her appearance. You could have just said that the locals didn’t find her attractive. I never said anything about her as a person. I said “Women in underdeveloped countries”. That had nothing to do with her and was about the broader experience of women in underdeveloped countries, especially when the stats show how frequently passport bros engage in sex tourism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 01:04 AM
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And you gave a description of how she looked for that reason too? You’re talking about local communities, who are always cruel towards their darker skinned inhabitants, and I’m talking about men who have to go to an entirely new continent while being the skin color of the majority. Not to mention men and women approach dating with different mindsets, especially women in underdeveloped countries who are looking for financial freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:54 AM
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What was the point of that story? You felt the need to share that for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:37 AM
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Those women are rare. Its not like Westerns have a unified look and if a passport bro isn’t a Chad in his home country then he does not possess the physical features that you claim those women desire. An unattractive man is an unattractive man. Regardless of where he goes unless he has money that he is willing to spend. That is the reason why the men that you speak of get the Chad experience. Those women are attracted to Western dollars.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/25 12:11 AM
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Thank you. You nailed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 10:18 PM
1

Well reference the “awareness” part of my comment. Regardless if she’s found success in men who you wouldn’t expect for a relationship, then that’s her league whether anyone wants to accept it or not
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:32 PM
1

For sure. There’s always the hookup league and the relationship league. As a woman, you have to be aware of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:22 PM
1

You could. You just have to find someone who is equally as chill
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:09 PM
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If she attracts men who look like him regularly then that’s her league. If she typically doesn’t but just happened to this one time, then she got lucky and scored someone out of her league.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 07:07 PM
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Yeah I tried to date a guy in the past who was very shallow intellectually and I couldn’t make it past the first date lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 08:59 AM
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Someone who likes to go out to do things, like clubbing, concerts, new events, thrifting, hobbies, walks etc (Pretty much the opposite of a homebody) and enjoys a good laugh. Men who are chill, quiet and barely laugh or crack jokes are super boring to me
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 08:59 AM
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I didn’t state how everyone views leagues. I’m stating what they really are. A mismatched couple will always perplex people but it doesn’t change that those two people are together because they each showed interest. The crowd that is typically attracted to you is your league. If it weren’t your league, then you would be attracting a different crowd
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 08:38 AM
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One’s league is defined by who they attract. If thunder thighs is attracting men who aren’t short and stocky then that’s her league. If she’s isn’t, then she’s delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate16/08/25 08:28 AM
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Once anyone says this, he just stops replying lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 09:18 PM
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What lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:15 PM
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How is it a paradox when that’s literally my boyfriend lmao? We go out all of the time, just him and I. He has friends but we don’t spend most of our time at house parties and social gatherings. We go to clubs together, bars, the movies, expos, new events in our city, etc. He easily chats with new people that he meets but he doesn’t know bouncers or anything like that. You can go out and just enjoy being with the company that you’re with. Have you never done that?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:10 PM
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Thank you for not reading OP’s post or mine, apparently. OP was entirely focused on the man having a bunch of friends and connections. My comment is more focused on the man being a vibe and always wanting to go do something as opposed to staying in. You don’t need a lot of connections to be the guy that I’m describing. I sense bitterness from your comment though. So I’m guessing that you’ll still refuse to understand what I’m saying, wont you?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 12:00 PM
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I love a man who can carry an intellectual conversation but there has to be more than that. If he’s not fun, then yes its boring
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:36 AM
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Honestly its not the whole “Has a bunch of friends thing”. Its more that extroverted men, like the ones that you’re describing, have a lot of energy and they always want to go do something. Honestly, you sound more like a homebody than an introvert. Maybe thats where you’re going wrong. Homebodies do well with fellow homebodies. You also sound like you are just not fun. You don’t need connections to be a fun guy to be around. However, it sounds like you focus too much on being intellectual and w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/25 11:35 AM
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You’ve encountered women who didn’t like you very much and you think that’s how all women act. A woman who genuinely wants to date you will show interest and effort
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 08:29 PM
1

Alright?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 08:37 AM
1

What a weird leap. I never said that I wasn’t attracted to a good amount of men but that doesn’t mean that I want a relationship with all of them or want to have sex with them. Also asexual is defined by a lack of sexual attraction. If I have sexual attraction then I’m not asexual
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 08:37 AM
1

I bet it is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:00 PM
2

Dating is one thing but yeah its crazy if women think that its harder for a woman to get some than a man it is for a man lol. Its super easy to find a guy who wants to have no strings attached sex
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 10:00 PM
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Do it dude. Tell me how it works out for you
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 09:33 PM
5

Oh, what woman is saying that?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 07:44 PM
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Provide the stats of what you’re claiming
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 06:51 PM
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I get the frustration but the way that men online attack women for that, as if its our fault that men are easy as hell, is the problem. Not only are men super easy but then they shame us when we are too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 06:50 PM
1

This sounds more like a fantasy that you get off too lmao. The wording that you chose gives it away. “Hot guys” “Worship his cock” “Submissive”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 06:45 PM
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I wouldn’t date a man with kids, period. Full custody is definitely a no go lol. Also I would still want to have my own kids regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 07:47 AM
2

What you see as ugly is not what they see as ugly. That’s what you’re missing
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:02 AM
2

What does this have to do with my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 04:20 AM
2

I don’t think that women are cleaner at all. My sister is a slob. Any gender can be one and those people should date each other
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/25 07:57 PM
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There is no one, with half a brain, who has ever denied that extremely wealthy older men do not have secret sexual relationships with young women. Any person with extreme wealth has people orbiting them to get a piece of it. However believing for a second that their reality is anything like the reality of the rest of the population is hilarious. Men like Shape have the wealth of less than 1% of the population. How in the world do you think that their love life is a reflection of men making $40k …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 05:50 PM
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Could be but I wouldn’t call it privilege. If I were ugly, I wouldn’t get any attention and I’m not attractive because of genetics. I actively work everyday to look how I do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:57 AM
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Yes. I’m not preaching but I’m explaining the comparison. Younger me, who was insecure, underdeveloped and unsure of myself, does not speak for the woman that I am now and other women who are like me. Its not uncommon to want attention from anyone as a youngster but as an adult, no. As a woman, I don’t feel anything from men who I’m not attracted to and that’s not just because I’m in a relationship with now. I don’t feel flattered from attention from men who repulse me or men who just want sex. …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:49 AM
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Younger me would have agreed with you but older me who knows what she wants does not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:42 AM
0

You’re still arguing for what? Did I or did I not agree with your comment that it is logical to be against murder and still not actually care about the life that you’re saving? I did. It is logical if you stick to that you’re against murder. Just don’t claim that you actually care about life. Studies have shown that narcissism is quite high amongst surgeons than the rest of the population and anecdotal evidence skews that way away as well. I’m sure that there are more doctors than we think that …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:35 AM
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Why are you cussing so much and seeming so angry? Calm down. I have not given you that energy so there is no reason to be this worked up. Dying on the hill that a woman must not be “a heterosexual bitch” (What an extremely odd choice of words) just because she doesn’t feel attraction towards every man on the planet is a choice. I feel repulsed by the thought of having sex with certain men, especially ones who have done horrible things or look the exact opposite of what I’m attracted to. That doe…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:26 AM
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Do I need to be a lesbian to not want male attention from men who are undesirable to me? If a man is unattractive in my eyes, of course I would not find his attention flattering or consider it an option. If a man (Even one that I am attracted to) just wants me for sex and that is not what I am interested in, of course I would not want his attention or consider it an example of my abundance of options. Options = what you’re looking for. If I’m not looking for a man who I feel no attraction toward…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:21 AM
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Did I or do I not already say that they don’t care about life? If that person was about to be murdered because they required extensive care and the person who was about to murder them could no longer do it and still wont be able to after you stopped them then what will happen without helping the almost homicide victim? They will wither away and slowly suffer without vital resources. Even if they survive , their future is doomed because they did not grow adequately without those resources. If you…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:17 AM
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Your comment is irrelevant? Yes it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:08 AM
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It isn’t. A person being the gender that you’re attracted to doesn’t mean that you will feel an ounce of attraction to them specifically. I don’t feel attraction to every man walking. I simply walk and no one does. No one feels attraction to every person of their sexuality. That doesn’t mean that they are disgusted by those people as a whole. They’re just completely turned off by certain ones. That’s how attraction works.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:06 AM
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Everything that you said still happens to women by men who they aren’t dating. We fear for our safety in general. You should have been more specific in your statement. Women don’t unanimously agree on anything. Stop being dramatic. Women who are attracted to women should definitely date other women if they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 08:03 AM
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It doesn’t matter. No attraction = no attraction. Receiving attention towards someone who you are not attracted to does nothing for you regardless of the gender of that person. That is where the comparison lies. Its for straight men to see that unwanted attention doesn’t translate to good attention just because “Well its attention from someone”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:45 AM
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It’s not disgust. The equivalence is meant to show men that just because you have plenty of people who want to have sex with you, it doesn’t mean that it will make you feel wanted or like you have genuine options if that’s not what you want. Men tend to think that sex = desired and women just don’t see it that way. Men who you are not attracted to wanting to have sex does nothing for your self esteem or views towards your options. Nor does it do anything if it is from men you are attracted to bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:43 AM
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What kind of equivalence is that? Do you think that men just arent attracted to lesbians? If a lesbian is an attractive woman, she will attract male attention regardless of who she is attracted to. Men who harass women don’t ask what their sexuality is first
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 07:39 AM
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If those men were genuinely MGTOW then they wouldn’t be supporting politicians that would make their lives worse just for the slim chance that they would get a girlfriend. They wouldn’t be prioritizing getting a woman as their number 1 objective if they really stopped caring about them. This is why women are bothered by MGTOWS because they are lying about going their own way. They have actually just shifted to entirely focusing on women to make our lives harder and to make us have to be with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 01:58 AM
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Male fallacy Men’s Assumption: Lots of men wanting to have sex with you means that you have options. Women’s consensus: That only counts if we’re looking strictly for sex. Options for relationships are much lower. Female Fallacy Women’s Assumption: This guy is being nice and acting like a friend so must want to be my friend. I will treat him like a friend. Men’s consensus: I was nice to this girl and didn’t make it evident that I wanted to date her because I didn’t want to come on too strong. No…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/25 12:51 AM
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You keep mentioning healthcare and that’s it. I have consistently spoken about vital resources. Stop zeroing in on healthcare. Allowing humans to suffer should be a line drawn, not just murder. When did we base our lives based on how humanity used to be? Should you also throw away your phone because 99% of human history didn’t have them? We’re supposed to evolve as a society. The fact that you would use Africa as an example of why we should allow kids to go without, when several of their countri…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:56 PM
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Calling vital resources “blah blah blah” is exactly what I mean by you people are not as moral as you claim. Idc how you feel about free healthcare for all. That doesn’t change that all children deserve vital resources like food, shelter, clothes, and access to healthcare when they need it. The line should be drawn at making sure that our nation’s children receive necessary resources, regardless of if their parents can afford it. It should not be drawn at forcing them to be born and then leaving…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:13 PM
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Explain to me how that changes what I said? I’m speaking about people who claim to care about life out of morality but would let those same kids starve to death if it meant keeping their taxes down. They would happily take away programs from them to feed them, fund minor extracurriculars, and everything that comes with growing up to being a well functioning human being. Forcing a child to be born into a world where they will suffer and grow up without vital resources like housing, clothes, healt…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:03 PM
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If men really think this way then they’re not only undesirable but they’re also stupid. Less immigration will just result in the price of goods going up. Allowing companies to discriminate against hiring women will not result in higher wages. It will result in more men having to work under higher living costs and the same pay, while also having to support their entire family off it. Less support to women from the state will not result in women settling down with men. Many women who are single mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:45 PM
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Thousands of TikToks mean nothing. Its social media dude. That doesn’t mean anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:37 PM
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Those same people will advocate for those very same kids, who they saved from “murder”, to go to bed hungry and without vital resources because it will bring their taxes down. They don’t actually care about the life of the baby
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:36 PM
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I’m confused as to how MGTOW = voting? I don’t care about men choosing to exit the dating market but I care about anyone who votes against everyone’s best interest. Trump’s election has fucked over everyone. He’s enacting policies that will negatively impact us all
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:33 PM
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Like you said it is quite rare, yet I constantly see people identify as it despite not being it. They will either date the same physical type consistently or make comments about the attractiveness of others. The term gets misused and thrown around a lot, yet I have rarely seen it apply
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 12:47 PM
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Man do not act as if insecure fat acceptance women speak for all women. Fat acceptance is an echo chamber and a lot of those women hype each other up so much because the world outside of them doesn’t. Those same women speak routinely about how their family and non-fat acceptance friends tell them to lose weight.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:27 AM
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If you develop strong boundaries that you refuse to compromise for anyone then your empathy cannot be exploited. You’ll know who is really there for you based on who respects them and who chooses to discard them
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 11:03 AM
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Dude idk what you’re going on about. I just know that everyone needs to feel some attraction to who they date unless they’re dating them for other reasons. Reasons that I probably don’t agree with. I said what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:07 AM
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The moment that someone drops “demisexual” or whatever, they lose credibility to me. There doesn’t need to be a special name for requiring an emotional connection before wanting something physical lol. I used to call myself that in high school and its just cringe to me now. Regardless, even back then I never used the term to discredit how important physical attraction was to me as well. I just needed both.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:04 AM
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Maybe because that doesn’t happen as often as you guys like to claim that it does. Its not the norm like you all claim it to be. Women still date average men consistently. Similar people always find each other. You guys are just stuck in this mindset that women only want the top 10% of men when men outside or that bracket get married and enter into relationships everyday
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:01 AM
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Everyone wants their partner to be attractive to them. Idk why you men harp on that as if women aren’t supposed to use their eyes. No one is going to date someone who is butt ugly to them, no matter how good they are
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 12:10 AM
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In my experience, its been the former lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 03:01 PM
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You’re going to get a lot of flak for this but this is true 💀. That’s actually why a lot of Red Pill men are so pissed because they miss how it was back in the day when all it took was the man providing money for him to secure a wife. Whenever men make a lot of money, they seek out attractive women who they can pay for their time (Through more than just cash) and see the ability to do so as a sign of status.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 11:30 AM
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This is a good answer. Anti-fun is what really seals the deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:13 PM
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He’s quiet. I can’t stand a guy who barely has anything to say. He just gives minimal answers or just listens and doesn’t contribute or ask questions. It signals that he’s disinterested. That bores me to tears. He isn’t funny and too mellow. I like to laugh and I like my partner to laugh with me. If I’m cracking jokes and he isn’t or he’s always just “chilling”, I quickly become bored with him. He’s a homebody. Homebodies are for other homebodies. I’m someone who likes to constantly be on the mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 09:05 PM

Maybe its because you don’t know any women that well? I literally know 3 and two are my friends
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 08:05 PM
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Once again, did you read that I used the comparison of when I struggled with friendships? Every gender has to put themselves out there to find friends. I was very shy and struggled with social anxiety hard until I did the work to overcome it. Shyness can be overcame.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:40 AM
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Did you read that I said that I struggled with friendships? There are no gender dynamics or expectations with finding same sex friends. You have to put yourself out there or you wont make connections. You are so hyper focused on gender that you can’t even imagine a scenario where we go through the same things
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:36 AM
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All you do is whine and then wonder why you are not successful. There are plenty of men who don’t have to approach dozens of women to get one to give him a chance. If you a striking out that bad then you need to look at the only common denominator, you and analyze where you are going wrong. Yes people can control being shy or manage it. I’m someone who struggles with social anxiety. Making friends does not come naturally to me but when I really wanted to, I had to overcome that or I would be fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:25 AM
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Because women aren’t a monolith. There are several billion women in this world with their own preferences and likes. If you can’t appeal to one, then that is on you
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:19 AM
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You’re comparing different men, in different time periods, who sought after different types of women. Men like Tate intentionally seek out vapid women who are not very intelligent. I’m not trying to be insulting but there’s a reason why he dates influencers and such instead of seeking out Harvard graduates. He aims for who he knows will go for him. To those women, he is a good man and Tate knows that they’re easily gullible. Good is subjective and if you aim for women within your league, you wil…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:17 AM
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No one has to come up with excuses for your situation. You being single is your problem and its up to you to solve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:13 AM
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Weird to throw autism in there as all single men are not autistic but unless someone who is severely mentally disabled, it is their fault that they haven’t learned how to recognize their shortcomings. If someone is too shy to approach then they need to work on that and put themselves in situations where they will already be talking to women organically, like a club or such, and it would be easier to build a connection. If you really don’t want to be single, you don’t have to be
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:12 AM
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The 80/20 theory is just that. A theory. The most evidence that this it ever presents is from dating apps which don’t reflect the wider population. Its usually just from one app that’s cited that’s not even the most popular one. Not to mention, most people are not on dating apps. A higher percentage of people have never used them vs those who use them regularly. The 80/20 mess is just some terminally online theory
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:09 AM
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If you are the common denominator then you must analyze what you are doing wrong. Very rarely is the whole world against you. I feel the same way about women who have been single for a long time but want a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 01:05 AM
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Your assumption is why your reply doesn’t belong under mine. “Usually feminist” does not mean always. I’m not a feminist and I never claimed to be one. The rhetoric of other women and feminists has nothing to do with me and you’re silly for bringing it up under my comment as if I somehow have to answer for them. You men do that a lot in this subreddit. Its ridiculous. Go on your tirades against women who actually believe what you’re accusing them of.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/25 05:32 PM
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You look down on them because you lack complexity. No one’s sexual desires or relationship preferences should ever determine whether they support equal rights or autonomy. No one should ever have to live in accordance to my preferences or desires. That is why the right to autonomy and equal rights is importance to me regardless of what I prefer. The fact that you think that people cannot possess that understanding says a lot about you and the emotional and mental depth that you lack. It sounds t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:42 PM
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You’re describing yourself. The ability to recognize your own personal preferences without allowing them to interfere with your ideology, especially one that supports the autonomy of others is reconciling. You seem to not know what that word means, but you’re using it anyways because you think that it makes you sound smart.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/25 11:15 PM
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Yeah, I don’t mind being honest. I don’t think that male frustrations are unfounded. I just think that they’re looking in the wrong places or haven’t learned how to play the cards dealt to them. Not all women think like me. There are many who have said the opposite of me in this comment section and I have encountered women who disagreed with my mentality and do the opposite. So its not like I represent all women. Frustration is normal regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 06:49 PM
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No I don’t at all. I’m in a happy relationship because of it. BP ≠ against gender roles. It has nothing to do with that actually lol. I explicitly said in another comment under this thread that I am not against gender roles for my relationship, personally. I don’t need to realize something that I never denied. Gender roles are for those who want to follow them. Equality is about choice for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 06:28 PM
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No there isn’t actually. That’s actually perfectly fine for him to say. He wants equality and for everyone to have a fair and equal opportunity to earn what they are owed, but he personally does not want to settle down with a career-driven woman. Thats actually balanced and shows that he recognizes that the world doesn’t have to reflect his personal preferences, but he still has them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/25 09:22 AM
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I put effort into any relationship that I have, whether it’s romantic or not. However, I did not work to impress my boyfriend in the same way that he worked to impress me. Much of my work happened once he was already interested in me
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:05 PM
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Okay? Those people should date other people who think the same way. Before I met my boyfriend, I was at a point in my life where I did not want to become sexually active with a guy until I knew that he was serious about me. I met a man who felt the same way and now I’m in a happy relationship. If I had compromised, like I did in the past, I would probably still be single and just getting to know someone right now while still having sex with them. For some people, they are willing to wait and see…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:03 PM
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Why are you pretending like everyone is interested in causal sex lol? Plenty of people date with serious intentions. Of course they don’t want to put themselves in a situation that will only result in sex
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 06:47 PM
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Its one subreddit dude. Of course it doesn’t reflect any broader dating patterns. Never view any subreddit that way lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 06:41 PM
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Aw 😍
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 06:40 PM
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Lmao exactly. I’m sure that OP treats beautiful women differently than women who he deems as ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 06:39 PM
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Where did I even mention equitable lol? Regardless, we like each other equally actually. I don’t want a relationship where I like the guy more because my past relationship was like that and that was an actual nightmare. My relationship now is stable and loving.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 06:37 PM
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Women in the past fought for autonomy which we have now. Gender roles are an option. I am, personally, not opposed to them while some women are. We aren’t a monolith so there’s nothing wrong with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 06:31 PM
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I think that everyone should aim for the relationship that they want. I do work to impress but I don’t want to feel like I’m chasing. Its worked out for me pretty well having this mentality and my friends
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 06:26 PM
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How am I my own worst enemy when that mentality never stopped from getting into a relationship lmao? I have a boyfriend who adores me. The neuroticism worked. Hate to break it to you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 06:21 PM
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When I was single I was afraid that if I approached first, the guy would give me a chance because he just liked that I was interested in him, not because he’s really interested in me. Men aren’t used to being approached so I didn’t want flattery to be the main reason why one would date me. I also was afraid that it would set up the dynamic of me being the chaser and him being chased. Like now I have to be the one to impress him since I was the one who asked him out instead of the other way aroun…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/25 08:25 AM
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Dude all you did was describe pretty privilege. No shit that attractive people get away with more. Men also treat beautiful women better than women who they don’t find attractive. You should see how my fat friends get treated
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 08:12 PM
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Thank you for getting it lol. You’re the first one
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 05:09 AM
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No, I would not
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/25 01:28 AM
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If you have found that being bold works for you, then disregard my advice and continue. I’m just a commenter on Reddit with my own perspective, like everyone else. If the opposite of what I said has worked for you, then continue
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:19 PM
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Its the same league when you don’t attract slender women. If women with a certain look rarely ever want you and that includes slender women, then you have your answer. There must be something about your looks that doesn’t attract them. When that happens, you have to reassess. As a slender woman, we have an abundance of options so maybe you just aren’t standing out
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:48 PM
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Women who are also East Asian and looksmax. Go for other average women
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:36 PM
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Uh huh keep telling herself that. I’m sure that your big protector fiance who grew up in a good home and nice neighborhood but has somehow found himself in multiple violent situations is suchhhhh a bad ass. He’s such a badass that when your BIL was being inappropriate, you had to run to Reddit for advice instead of him right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:33 PM
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Haha it has lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:31 PM
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Yeah I hear ya. I didn’t make it clear but my comment was more dedicated to people who find it hard and almost impossible to approach sexually. That approach might work for one night stands and such but its a very bold move and not everyone is capable of doing it. It also may not be the best move if you’re looking for a genuine relationship and not a sexual one, in my opinion. Instead of jumping to that, men who find themselves in the friend zone can just make their intentions known without bein…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:31 PM
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I consider normal flirting to not be sexual in nature. However, I’m also not a girl who was into hookups and one night stands. A woman who is interested in that may not mind overtly sexual flirtations. Your experience is just an example of different people being into different things. Your group of friends found your pick up line to be sleazy or something while the women that were into it didn’t. From your friends’ perspective, that pick up line would make you strike out with women like them but…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:10 PM
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I didn’t see his reply, hon. Regardless if you want specific dating tips then get a dating coach.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:47 AM
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I used to get approached in public often when I was single. If the setting or environment feels right to you and if you feel like she would be open to someone approaching her (You’ll have to figure this out on your own), then approach and try to strike up a conversation. Tailor the conversation to the moment. You can’t really dictate human interaction so you’ll have to figure that part out. I’ve had guys say that I looked nice and ask for my number or directly say that I was beautiful and that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 08:46 AM
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The point is how humans communicate? You keep saying women but every gender and almost every person does this. They state what they know as universal because to them it is. Like I said humans have different experiences. My point is that obviously people should know that and should recognize that no matter how universally someone speaks or how much they position it as “moral”, you should recognize that its just advice and it could be wrong for your situation. JustPearlyThings and Fresh & Fit posi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:19 AM
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The point is obvious. I’m pointing out how dumb and annoying it is. Of course different women give different advice. Its almost like randoms online are separate people with their own lived experiences. Regardless, everyone speaks in an assured manner. It is up to the person receiving it to assess which advice will work best for them and their situation. For example, if you take the advice that you should befriend women first but after awhile, you find yourself constantly getting friend zoned ins…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 07:09 AM
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Dream land of what, baby doll?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:45 AM
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So what is he supposed to say then? Pills usually refer to a certain ideology. If he doesn’t identify with either because he has no reason to, then his stance makes sense. What good would it do for him to choose a pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:18 AM
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Why does his height mean that he has to associate with a pill?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:12 AM
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Her dude is probably who helped her write it and is helping her craft some of these responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:11 AM
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His parents’ occupation doesn’t mean that he grew up in a healthy environment, nor does his current occupation. FYI stock brokers tend to be some of the worst people and have one of the highest concentration of psychopaths within a profession. Being able to defend one’s self does not mean sizing up every man that you meet and imagining yourself fighting them. I’m a woman sweetheart and I don’t need a man who is so roid-code that he has to call other men betas to make himself feel superior to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 06:10 AM
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Yeah its very weird for sure. Like you said, what are they even trying to prove? (I said they because I’m almost certain that her and her fiance are writing these replies together lol)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:59 AM
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Why are you putting this on her and calling her the only toxic one when her fiance is the one who thinks this way. I love how you bypassed his toxicity and immediately only jumped on her for endorsing it. She’s not saying that her bf could beat people up, he’s saying it and she’s embracing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:57 AM
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This. The first thought that came to my mind was “roids” as well. Men who takes steroids are also infamously insecure so that says a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:56 AM
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Frankly your fiancé sounds a bit unhinged tbh lol. Every time he meets a man he’s wondering if he can take them in a fight? That doesn’t sound like typical men, just more like your husband is the type who is constantly on edge and needing to be “macho” to mask their insecurity. Who cares about being the strongest man in the room if he is not surrounded by violent individuals? I don’t know what background your husband came from but he sounds like the product of a violent or unstable environment i…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/25 03:54 AM
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I said that under another post and got downvoted lmao. If more men sought after women who were in their league or even below their league, they would have a much high success rate. They don’t want to hear that up here though
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 10:18 PM
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Having a libido ≠ only wanting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 09:02 PM
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If you see an attractive woman and want to approach, strike up a conversation that makes it obvious that you find her attractive. You don’t have to be creepy about it because there are ways to make that obvious without doing that. If you guys always have a rapport due to being in the same group or something, make it clear early on which can be within a few weeks of you talking privately, that you like her more than a friend. Don’t drag it for months or years and then act surprised when she doesn…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:52 PM
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I LOVE how you provided two quotes and NONE are from me. There is something wrong with you incels where you will speak to one person but attribute what others have said to them. It must be a mental issue. My stance is clear. Respond to it accordingly instead of strawmanning. Its sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:48 PM
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If you approach as a friend, then you are not being friend zoned. You are being treated as you approached. If you make your intentions known early and they see you as a friend regardless, then yeah you’ve been friendzoned and you have the option to no longer speak to them. Just make your intentions clear from the beginning instead of dragging it out and you can prevent this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:46 PM
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If you originally befriend someone because you genuinely want to be friends and then happen to develop feelings then that is not what I’m talking about, obviously. Nor does that mean that they put you in the friend zone because you were already friends. Being put in the friendzone refers to people who wanted more from the beginning but were classified as a friend much to their chagrin. The people who feel this way but only approached as a friend and nothing more are who I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:44 PM
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Yeah environment definitely impacts how it lands, but I was more so speaking about if you don’t know how to approach, you can start with a normal compliment. If you feel like the atmosphere calls for a more sexual tone then that could work as well
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 07:07 PM
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I have no idea what you’re talking about. I’m speaking specifically about men who put themselves in the friendzone by pretending like they want to be friends with a woman who they don’t actually just want to be friends and then whine when that is all that happens. Genuine friends can become lovers but that usually happens after awhile. Sometimes years later when the feelings grow naturally. If you’re approaching a woman that you find attractive, make that clear. Don’t act like a friend and then …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:53 PM
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Why are you assuming that regular people get cancelled when majority of the so called cancelled celebrities still have thriving careers? You people overestimate how important you are and how much people care about unfounded accusations. People barely even care about credible ones
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:48 PM
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Just compliment her and make your intentions known before putting yourself in the friend zone. Instead of befriending women that you find attractive and want to date, make it clear what you actually want without being brazenly sexual. What you’re suggesting has a high chance of getting men labeled as a creep if the strong sexual feelings are not automatically reciprocated or they will attract hyper sexual women who maybe crazy. Yes that includes the attractive ones. You said yourself that most o…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:46 PM
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Thank you! Finally someone says the obvious. Men will befriend women and then claim that the women put them in the friendzone. It doesn’t make any sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:42 PM
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You can approach with compliments without it directly being sexual like this guy is suggesting. Just make your attraction known
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:41 PM
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As a woman, I have never told a guy this. Starting out as friends only works if you two genuinely began as just friends and then it grew into something more. However if you know that you’re only befriending a woman because you want to get with her, don’t do that. You’ll only be friendzoning yourself and then having an “epiphany” that you should have made your intentions known later in life like this guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/25 06:40 PM
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It is true that I see them as losers but not necessarily because they aren’t good men, but because they’re stuck in a defeatist mindset. I imagine that they do have nice qualities and traits that women would like but they either don’t display those traits properly or they aim for way out of their league and then give up when they don’t succeed. However, yes there is some merit to someone who is much older dating a young companion having motives outside of healthy attraction. Not someone who is j…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/25 06:43 PM
1

Says the man who didn’t offer any counter evidence of what I said and STILL hasn’t provided the source. Lmao okay
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 10:18 PM
41

This. Hypocrites are nothing new.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:09 PM
0

The women who complain about men preferring attractive women are probably incels themselves tbh. Either side complaining about the other having normal preferences, like preferring people who are attractive to them and on their level, is pathetic. The issue is that you all have allowed femcels to make you feel like their opinion is the dominant one because other femcels agree with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 08:09 PM
1

I hate to tell you that OkCupid is not indicative of broad dating patterns across genders. Its one app and its not even the most popular one either. Tinder, Hinge and Bumble over take it in popularity actually. Further, if they have removed the post from their blog, then that must mean that they realize that it doesn’t have as much credibility as they thought and thus, it is no longer relevant
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:03 PM
2

Link the study and I’ll see
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 07:04 PM
1

You gave the most basic one. “Men don’t have to look like models” okay? Most women don’t require that. What even is a male model equivalent to you? The example was flimsy, there has to be more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 06:37 PM
2

I can’t speak for everyone because I don’t need confidence but I definitely do need my partner to be fun and we did have a spark between us when we first met. When I tried do overlook those things in the past and just focus on the guy’s other traits, it never worked. I would be bored and the lack of chemistry would fester. After around 4 to 6 dates, I would wonder why I was wasting his time when I wasn’t feeling any romantic attraction. An attractive face can’t compensate for a lack of any real …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 06:36 PM
7

And what are superficial traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 04:32 PM

Of course. Did I say that you couldn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 06:37 AM
7

To show two extreme sides of the same coin. I have debated with someone up here who felt like women should be forced into monogamy by government intervention and just look up the many deranged posts by incels to see more blatant examples. Then on the other side, there are femcels who want the male suicide rate to increase and such. So it appears like they brought up to extremes to say that they would rather the latter than the former because at least the latter involves some agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:14 PM
15

No one has ever claimed that it’s discrimination. Its just a sign that women aren’t being satisfied as often as men but no one has called it discrimination
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:08 PM
3

It appears like they’re just comparing two extremes and saying which they would prefer actually
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 07:07 PM
7

I was adding another perspective to your reply. I see now that my wording initially was dismissive but I was adding another perspective. Casual sex for women carries a higher risk than reward. The risk being that the sex could be mid or wholly unsatisfying. I already said that if its a first encounter, you don’t know that the sex will be bad until you get it. I had a man come from just eating me out after 5 minutes and that was the entire encounter. I didn’t know that it was going to be that lac…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 07:54 PM
5

Well that’s you. Hence why I pointed out that some women are willing to “wade through the water” and some women just don’t see the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 07:43 PM
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Um if its a one night stand or the first time with that person, you usually don’t know until it begins. I didn’t know that I had to explain that. It doesn’t matter if you stop it and ask them to leave because you’ve still already physically involved yourself with that person and it wasn’t even worth it. I don’t know why you’re so focused on who’s at fault or not. A shitty sexual experience is a shitty sexual experience. Some women are really into casual sex and are willing to “wade through the w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 07:28 PM
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It has nothing to do with that. Its that women just don’t orgasm as frequently as men, thus casual sex usually ends up being a waste. Even if you repeatedly tell the man to do something differently, if they can’t then you’ve just had a shitty sexual experience for nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/25 07:14 PM
0

This comment was almost 4 months ago dude. If you were going to be triggered, the time was then. The discussion is over so move on
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/25 04:09 PM
1

I mean pretty much lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 08:36 PM
1

I would wonder how many other women he’s jerked off too and feel instantly turned off. The whole thing would be a red flag and mostly because he told me. Its one thing to get off to something and recognize that its too weird to tell others about but its another thing to tell me about it. Clearly he must feel any shame or hesitation about what he’s been doing and that would make me consider what other dark truths will he reveal to me about himself. Honestly that kind of confession sounds more lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 03:02 AM
2

Why would marriage be a business to common folks dude? That was only common amongst aristocrats.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 12:11 PM
6

Notice how didn’t reply to this lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/25 12:10 PM
0

Not necessarily because you view it negatively
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 05:45 AM
1

Who tf are you talking about?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 04:49 AM
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Well relationships are an agreement between two people. They can be comparable to a contract. I mean you quite literally sign one when you become officially married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:47 PM
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Assumed monogamy just isn’t as common anymore. That’s why its important to discuss it first. Some people might see it as just 3-4 months of hanging out and they assume that the person is seeing other people as well. If you don’t make your intentions clear, how do you expect them to be realized?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 03:26 PM
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Yeah it’s definitely hypocritical to take a hard stance against gender roles and then actively practice them. I personally don’t see a problem with expecting your partner to adhere to gender roles if that’s what you want and then deciding not to continue the courtship when you realize that they don’t. Right wing men definitely do actively encourage and enforce gender roles.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 12:24 AM
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Personally, I am fine with gender roles in my personal relationship. I don’t require everything on that list like plan the date and must initiate sex but my boyfriend pretty much fits the rest and I like it. We both practice gender roles in our relationship. The difference is that I don’t expect everyone to be like my relationship. I don’t think that a man is less of a man because he doesn’t do the things that my boyfriend does. He’s just the right man for a different type of woman than me. That…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 09:41 PM
0

Taller than them in heels. Most women don’t wear heels much higher than like 3 inches regularly. A man who is around 4 inches taller than his woman is still under 6 feet tall. The average height for a woman is 5’3-5’4 in the US. Also, women are wearing heels less and less these days. So it’s not even that much of a factor to be a counterargument. The ick I feel like you’re watching a lot of content alone, either from what the manosphere is telling you or what influencers (Male & female ones) are…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 03:52 PM
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Dude the moment that you quote Andrew Tate, you’ve lost the plot lmao. On average, married couples have a 2.2 year age gap between them. The reason why I brought up marriage is because, as you can see, most of the relationships between 20 something year old women and 30 something year old men do not last very long. Part of that reason is because those relationships are typically transactional. The older man supplies the younger woman with experiences, dates and gifts that she can’t afford on her…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 03:41 PM
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Most women prefer a man who is taller than them. That is the preference. Women who are strict about men being over 6 feet are either tall themselves or they’re apart of the minority of short women who require a man to tower over them. Based on what I’ve seen, short women frequently date average height men. The men are just always taller.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 03:18 PM
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Your “evidence” of most modern liberated women is a single screenshot of a Tinder profile 🤦🏾‍♀️.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 02:50 PM
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Good dick is subjective lol. What we mean is that woman must have found a man who knows how to sexually please her better than other men have. We know how intoxicating that is because for a lot of women it isn’t easy to find. Its hard to let go of a man who makes you cum regularly because it might be really tough to find that again lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 05:51 PM
1

Literally there are many.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:50 PM
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For sure it’s unreasonable to me but it doesn’t affect me, so I don’t care what his preferences are. I only hate the ones who use their preferences to put down others who don’t fit it or become toxic and entitled because they can’t find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:40 PM
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This. This has always been my view. I don’t understand why others get so worked up over someone else’s preferences. If they don’t work out, then that will be for that person to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 05:36 PM
1

This was 139 days ago. The discussion has passed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:43 PM
1

Average is 4.5 inches to 6 inches to me
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:31 AM
1

I have never met a woman who is tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 12:29 AM
1

You’re entitled to your feelings but you probably really hurt her feelings. It is sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 07:31 PM
0

This is definitely going to ruffle some feathers but you’re onto something for sure lol. I get what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 04:33 PM
1

They don’t have to “still” be anything. I never said that. Show me where I did. I made the factual statement that speaking calmly didn’t make a difference in my experience. Now tell me how I was never their friend, based on anything that I said, not just what you’ve made up in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:22 PM
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You accuse other people of being triggered because that is the state of mind that you live in. It is the reason why you jumped to insulting me based on my gender and making baseless accusations with zero evidence. Even when presented with the full story, you refuse to read or comprehend because you would rather live in a fantasy where everything is evil women vs hapless men. Your username is a reflection of your reality and so are your comments. Calling that out is not being triggered, but thats…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 10:13 AM

Typical undesirable male who can’t read. The fact that that’s your username lets me know that my comment must have hit close to home, except you don’t get nicely rejected do you? The only “typical women” that you know are the ones who are disgusted by you, so yeah I guess I am one in your eyes. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/KSQmWqdCcg
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:47 AM
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My boyfriend has female friends and you have no idea how lax relationship is. I also said in another sentence comment where I elaborated more that I liked my former friend’s ex girlfriend AKA her and I got along. We literally became friends too. She had no problem with me, so what are you being such a tightwad about? You red pillers will find anything to get upset about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 09:11 AM
1

Yeah, could be
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 08:21 AM
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I’ve never done one night stands. Two were fwbs but one in particular was a blooming relationship and that was the worst one unfortunately. We had just became official and then I discovered how bad the sex was. Funnily enough, the second best that I’ve ever had was with another fwb
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 06:40 AM
1

I agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:32 AM
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Incoming: Four Long-Winded Paragraphs The first one was never my type, physically or romantically. We meshed well as friends because friendships can be deep in platonic ways, but romantic relationships require a much stronger level of depth. He and I would get into petty arguments sometimes, which we always smoothed over quickly because we were friends. However, if he had been my boyfriend or someone I was dating, his way of handling conflict would have irked me a lot more. I also genuinely saw …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 05:25 AM
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Yeah, I think that its possible to still remain friends with someone who doesn’t reciprocate interest. Some people are just incapable of it. Those were my former friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:59 AM
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Yeah ::/ I genuinely saw him as family. I saw the second one as a good bro as well. The third one was probably for the best because he was spiraling a bit and I think that he was just lonely when he asked me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:57 AM
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You’re putting words in my mouth because you want to argue your nonexistent point. I never said they were bad friends. They were good ones until they dropped me when I didn’t reciprocate their feelings. To be a “bad friend” you must first be a friend. They are no longer friends. They cut me off. Therefore, they’re just people who I used to be friends with. Rejecting a friend for a romantic relationship in a respectful and kind way does not make anyone a bad friend because romance has nothing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:56 AM
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I didn’t mean to put always. I misspoke. I meant to say that calm conversations didn’t make a difference in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:50 AM
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Women on average don’t approach romantically Okay. Why would you think that? Maybe because their expectations came out of nowhere. I was friends with one for 2 years and he called me his sister. We vocally expressed seeing each other as family until he dropped that he was into me. Why would he expect that someone who he treated like family and called family would be into him romantically? I didn’t disappoint him. He switched up on me. With the other one, he was always my bro and he treated me li…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:50 AM
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Tell me where I haven’t accepted that? I was directly responding to the assertion that a calm conversation always makes a difference. It doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:36 AM
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I don’t expect anything but that doesn’t change that it hurt, which I already said but I’ll say it again since you can’t read. I was friends with one for 2 years and another for a year and a half, approximately. They weren’t just men to me. The friendship seemed genuine. The first one literally called me his sister. I saw him as family and he acted the same until suddenly he didn’t. I’m allowed to be hurt by that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:36 AM
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I was friends with Friend 1 for around 2 years. Friend 2 for around a year and a half and Friend 3 for like 4 months. Friend 1 hurt the most because he would call me his sister and everything
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:28 AM
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If I felt entitled to their friendship then I would have harassed them into being my friend again, wouldn’t I? Nowhere did I say that I was entitled to anything. It doesn’t change that it hurt. I did not disappoint them because I never approached them as more than a friend. You can only disappoint people when you don’t meet their expectations or you turn out to be someone that they didn’t expect. I did neither. I was exactly as I presented myself to be for the entire friendship. They disappointe…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:25 AM
2

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:17 AM
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Obviously. I didn’t realize it until they cut me off for not wanting to date them, despite me letting them down gently
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:16 AM
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Zero awareness of what she might doing Oh the horrors of befriending a man who you deem as ugly. I have befriended average looking men, who simply weren’t my type and still tried to date me. If I find that I have common interests with someone and they seem like a good person, I will befriend them. It is not manipulation that they end up developing feelings from me simply acting like a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:15 AM
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I’ve had those calm conversations plenty of times. Those former male friends still got mad and cut me off.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:11 AM
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I’ve never encountered one of those lmao. I can see “too small” being an issue then lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:30 AM
4

For me, its when I was dating this guy who would stick it in and then not really move. He would awkward grind but barely move. His thrusts were like mini ones where there was no pounding or anything. I would tell him that I needed more but he just couldn’t do it. He said that he was always too close once we got to sex and if he moved beyond that, it would be over soon. It was very unsatisfying
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 02:17 AM
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False. Not all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:39 AM
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When and where is anyone stopping you from complaining? If it was a common sentiment that men are left unsatisfied in bed, then it would be known.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:39 AM
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This has been true for me unfortunately. Its not about dick size unless its too big. Some guys are just too quick and/or they don’t know how to thrust properly. They cum fast and then that’s it. Then there are the ones who just stick it in and barely thrust at all. Some are also just selfish lovers.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 12:37 AM
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Nah, he’s a bit of a loser but at least he’s getting out his sexual frustrations through paying for it instead of harassing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 01:40 PM
1

Yes and custom content for them. Its probably from a good amount of loyal customers instead of a huge number of people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 01:39 PM
4

Mannnn I would lose my mind on my boyfriend if I found out that he was paying the equivalent of a water or light bill on some content. xVideos is free.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 01:38 PM
3

Thank you. Only extreme gooners are paying for subscriptions to see person in action lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 01:37 PM
1

Dude paying for porn is sadddd, especially from just one person lmao. At least with a Brazzers subscription, you get an entire catalog of different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 01:36 PM
1

To your first paragraph, it could just be that you have nothing to attract women. Even when who are attracted to average looking men, need you to stand out before they approach. If your dating profile is boring, bitter or lacks well taken photos or a common interest for a woman to latch onto, you will not attract women who just want fun. If you don’t go out to social places like nightclubs and such and have genuine fun, you will not attract them. As a woman who is attracted to average looking me…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 01:15 PM
1

Thousands of women and its internet comments. Those women aren’t saying anything different from what I’m saying. There usually is a type of man that women go far in short term arrangements but what I’m saying is that the type varies from women to women. You hear “type” and assume that it must be a Chad, when it could easily be a man that you would deem as average or even look like you but to the woman, they’re worth it. That’s what I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 11:00 AM
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Flings are done with men who are found attractive by the woman. Your assumption is that all women only fit objectively/conventionally hot men into this category. You’re extremely wrong. Unless you’re talking about other conventionally hot women, average women find what I would consider average men and even ugly men fit for flings and FWBs because to them, they look better than what we see. My ex was not a Chad. Many men who I had short term relationships weren’t either (I’ve never been a one nig…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:50 AM
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Its funny because I never once said that it was a phase in youth. You saw that I used an example from my youth and assumed that I was saying that for all women it takes place in youth. The rest of my paragraph after I’m done speaking about myself doesn’t say that. I also never said that learning from past failed relationships and flings are all “youthful mistakes”. Dating my ex wasn’t a mistake, it was a learning experience. I learned boundaries, what I dislike in the bedroom and how to speak up…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:29 AM
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My ex was not a Chad and I let him get away with a lot of this stuff because I was 19 and had low self esteem. One of the main issues with men like you’ve described is that they somehow think that women should be the exact same in all relationships. They think that its a reflection on them if you’ve developed boundaries and a stronger sense of self since your last relationship, instead of that you’ve simply learned and grown from past experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:25 PM
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Its funny because my ex’s female friend wrote the bio on his dating profile that made me swipe right on him. His previous one was unsuccessful. Hers got him way more matches
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 05:45 AM
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We’ll agree to disagree. Dude you love to come up with excuses to desperately hold onto your double standards narrative. Everyone had their phones out, not just her. How do you think there was video of it? There was no policy against that. You completely made that. He was just upset that her flash went off right next to him and he smacked the hell out of her for it. They both did something that caused backlash and when they apologized it went away. Neither one of them was arrested, nor did they …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 04:04 AM
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Yeah, the golden shower is onstage and away from the kids while the drunk, topless people are all around them and have direct access. You keep wanting to pretend like that there is a double standard but DaBaby did exactly. He directly smacked a woman in the face because she took a picture with the flash on. This wasn’t a woman who was invading his space or refusing to get off stage, she was just standing by as he was walking to the stage and taking a picture. The woman also didn’t just brush the…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 02:18 AM
2

Yeah, the girls love Olivia
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:09 AM
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And you think that parents who would let their kids be around topless women with nipple pasties on and drunk adults have a right to complain about more sexual things happening at a rowdy festival? The festival is obviously prime for adult behavior. Kids shouldn’t be there and if they are, they will see somethings. Thank you for providing a video. I see that she kicked him in the butt to get him off the stage after he refused to leave. It doesn’t look like it hurt him or he noticed. If he doesn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/25 01:09 AM
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Yeah, the group being douche bags who use women. Olivia Rodrigo has a lot of lesbian/bi listeners. I’m sure they can relate to the song too if they’ve encountered a woman who treated them the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:39 PM
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If the festival didn’t find it indecent enough, then there would be no point. They charged her anyways. Also please show me where she kicked him because I can’t find that anywhere. What do you mean rarely?? Eminem wrote about raping and killing women which is in no way in the same league as Vampire, which is all about a shitty man breaking her heart. Not all men, just one. How is that misandrist when her words weren’t even that bad? All she does is describe a man who played her and now she’s hur…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:37 PM
3

Then you would have heard male artists sing more explicit lyrics than just about male wood.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:31 PM
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Welcome to Rockville is a provocative music event with drunks and topless women. If a parent brings their child to that, then what their child is exposed to is on them. It’s not like Urista called a minor on stage. You keep mentioning this “kick,” but I can’t find that anywhere. All of the videos and reports of the incident just show her peeing on the guy. Periods are not inherently sexual. Your twisted mind tells you that anything related to the reproductive system is sexual, but it’s not. Ther…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:30 PM
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He spoke about what he thinks is standard in comedy, when if you’ve seen Kill Tony or Wild n Out, you’ll see that it isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:00 PM
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Certain men do the exact same thing. That’s literally what the manosphere is. It doesn’t mean that its true.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:49 PM
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Thank you for genuinely understanding what I was saying. That’s rare to come across on this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:48 PM
1

That you would even think to respond with the word incel speaks volumes about you. Something is genuinely wrong with you dude. Since your short term memory is lacking, I didn’t think to respond with that word, YOU DID. You’re the one who brought that word into this conversation by preemptively trying to prove that you weren’t one. I was responding to that. I hadn’t even thought about you being an incel until YOU mentioned it. Funnily enough, I said that you weren’t one. You just sound like one w…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:47 PM
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Literally. Somehow her song about a specific man who broke her heart is misandrist. Lmao okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 05:02 PM
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What evidence?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:59 PM
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The only thing they could charge her with was public indecency. The entire thing was consensual. Men have written way worse songs about women that weren’t just about a woman who broke their heart. That doesn’t change that one belongs in the category of “sexual” and the other doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:58 PM
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The only thing they could charge her with was public indecency. The entire thing was consensual.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:56 PM
1

Have you ever been to a musical festival?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:51 PM
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Dude, the way you worded the Sophia Urista moment makes it sound like she brought a guy on stage and unexpectedly peed on him. She literally asked who wanted to get peed on, and he volunteered and he was happy as hell afterward too. It was just kinky shit onstage. She did get some backlash for it, but her genre of music commonly features artists who do wild stuff. So thats why it blew over, If Tate McRae did the same thing, it would be held against her way more. Regardless, the whole thing was c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 04:49 PM
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It does only happen to mentally unstable women. Not just mentally ill but mentally unstable, yes. Mental instability includes unaddressed traumas and low internal self worth. Many women suffer from that and that is how many women find themselves in bad relationships. Mental instability can also present itself in different ways. Someone who seemingly has everything together on paper can still suffer from this. Just because women complain about cheating and nice guys proclaim that they wouldn’t, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:18 PM
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You were correct in the first half but incorrect in the second one. Your presumption that “everyone knows what abuse is” is based on a logical view of abuse, much like how its assumed that everyone knows what a cult is. Many people experience abusive relationships with lenses on. Not blinders because they’re aware when their partner, for example, punches them. However, due to a poor upbringing, low self esteem and/or poor mental health, they will excuse or rationalize the behavior as something o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:11 PM
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Honey, the commenter just explained that most of the women who go for men who are glaringly bad news have their own mental hangups. Did you miss that part? Either mental illness, a poor upbringing or both has taught them that men who are obviously bad still deserve a chance. Therefore, if those men are available, especially in abundance, that’s who they will steer towards. Like did you read the post? Babes, I don’t need your stats. Frankly, the only thing on the list that doesn’t qualify you as …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 03:00 PM
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If the man must initiate then how are we the sole gatekeepers? What you said actually proves OP’s point more because if a woman is in an environment where the main men initiating are charming criminals, then you just stated yourself that her choice is based on slim pickings.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:17 PM
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Its yes and no to your first question. Every abuse story is different, so it is very possible that the women saying that were involved with a man who showed no glaring red flags at first. Women aren’t a monolith and we don’t all speak for each other. To your second question, yes it is very possibly that a mentally unstable woman could have been with a man whose red flags weren’t obvious to her due to her being unstable as well. Unstable doesn’t always mean that her life is a mess. It can just me…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:14 PM
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Someone from a background where none of that has been normalized for them would obviously see it as a red flag. Someone who isn’t, wouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:06 PM
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Everyone struggles with mental health to some degree and not just because of the patriarchy. The patriarchy itself doesn’t cause mental health issues. Genetics and the factors of life do. However, some people seek help and some people learn to cope. The downside to cope is that it helps the person survive but their problems will still manifest somehow. A woman making $210k a year but still choosing to date a bum is an example of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 02:04 PM
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That woman making $210k a year easily could have had mental health issues and came from instability, therefore, she wanted someone who felt familiar. It doesn’t matter how much someone advances in their career or finances, if they don’t fix their core traumas
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 01:51 PM
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If you live somewhere where it is everyday language to call people weirdos, then no wonder you are the way you are. I get it now. Regardless, like I already said, what you deem as not offensive to you personally doesn’t change that it is offensive societally. So claiming that its just a word that is correct by definition is silly and immature, like you unaware of the world that you live in. Frankly, maybe you are. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:54 PM
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I don’t need to feel better about anything but I hate when people act as if they were born yesterday and are completely unaware of the implications of language. You can say that its just an insult to “soft people” or even that it isn’t an insult to you, but that doesn’t change that societally it is categorized as an insult. Google will tell you and any random stranger that you ask on the streets would as well. Pretending like you don’t know that is silly.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:47 PM
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Read the comments before commenting stupid shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:44 PM
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Stop playing dumb. Weirdos is an insult and you know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:42 PM
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Please stop playing dumb. Now you’re acting like you were born yesterday. You know that the insult “weirdos” carries heavier connotations than just outside the normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:42 PM
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Not unless they’re willing to have an open relationship. Even then, when you say repulsed by sex, do you mean just sexual acts or cuddling and affection as well? Because if it includes intimacy altogether, then I couldn’t even have an open relationship with them. It would just be a no for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:40 PM
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Yes, that is how you speak.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:30 PM
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Honey in this instance, they did. I don’t care if you make fun of me. I didn’t mean that all academics had backward ideas of sexuality but the person who taught the commenter this idea that bisexuality doesn’t really exist definitely could have been. Like I already said, you can dislike how I said it but I didn’t say anything wrong. “Your use of language was an attempt to lend gravitas” man gtfo here.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 03:04 PM
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You can dislike my wording but I said nothing wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:52 AM
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Yes. That’s what I was saying. I couldn’t find any evidence of your claim, just evidence that disproved it. Regardless, you claimed to have seen studies so I wanted to see them, just to see how the information was gathered, the overall analysis, etc. Do you understand now?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:16 AM
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Re-read my sentence. I specifically said “Can you find any evidence of this? Because I can’t find any.” The “this” is obviously referring to what you claimed to have heard in your sexuality class. I could not find any evidence of your claim. You misunderstanding me is not a contradiction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:09 AM
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I already did and what you were taught was wrong. I just wanted you to do yourself so you would stop repeating misinformation.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:04 AM
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I wouldn’t continue giving validity to research that is almost a decade and a half old and can’t really be found anywhere else, especially since backwards views on sexuality were still prominent around that time. If you can’t find current studies to prove what you heard in class, then you probably shouldn’t take it as fact anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:03 AM
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The stigma is slowly going away but very slowly. There are still quite a few women, Gen Z, who would be turned off by the idea of their man with another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 07:00 AM
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That doesn’t change that using an identity as an insult still has underlying meaning, whether that person is consciously bias or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:59 AM
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How many years ago was this class and can you provide any evidence of this? Because I can’t find any.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:57 AM

I thought that this was common knowledge
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 06:56 AM
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That’s a good point. Not all men would automatically detach from the children and just want retribution. That honestly makes a lot of sense and its a narrative that many men who harp on paternity fraud don’t focus on.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:13 PM
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Honestly this law doesn’t really bother me. I think that it would only be applicable though if there is solid proof that the man was consistently in the child’s life and/or consistently provided financially. If he was a “Sometimes” dad then the mother would have grounds to fight against paying him back full child support payments. She might just have to pay a one time fee instead or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/25 08:12 PM
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Would that be the doctor’s opinion or medical fact? Exactly. The doctor is just telling me what has already been empirically proven. I wouldn’t just be believing him, I’d be trusting proven data. PearlyThings, on the other hand, shares her opinion and advice. Yes, I would expect someone who’s telling me how to improve my life based on their advice to actually be living that same life. Otherwise, I’d question why they’re even qualified to give it and why aren’t they living by it if its such great…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 11:07 PM
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Lmao, like we saw her ex. We know that she isn’t holding out for some “high value male” 🤣. She would accept attention from anyone, she just isn’t really getting any.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:32 PM
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My obvious point is that if she has all of the answers on how to appeal to men and knows exactly why women are lonely, single, unattractive and all of the other bs that she spews on her platform, then shouldn’t her own advice be working for her? Her personal life should reflect her “knowledge”. However it doesn’t. Not only are the men that she panders to still lonely and unlovable but so is she. That reflects its effectiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:27 PM
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Exactly, especially with the rhetoric that she pushes. Her entire platform is based on blaming women and claiming she has the answers for how they should act, yet no one is interested in her. She’s still single, and even her own fans rarely praise her attractiveness as a potential partner. Like you said, you would think she’d get some interest, especially since, based on her previous relationships, her standards genuinely aren’t that high. However, she’s proof that following her BS as a woman do…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 09:09 PM
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Of course. Redpill ideology is extreme by design. I wouldn’t focus on what they say or care about it. They appeal to men who are already battling mental health issues, loneliness and low self-esteem. Therefore, they’re intentionally one-sided. One of their biggest grifters, JustPearlyThings, was literally saying the exact opposite of what she says now just months before she launched her platform. She intentionally pivoted to Redpill content because she knows that its consumers are easy targets, …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 08:13 PM
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It depends on how people interact with the content. If they’re watching disrespectful YouTubers who make a joke out of it or they make a joke out of it themselves then its distasteful
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:54 PM
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I get that you feel its unfair but that’s how stereotypes work, especially when they are not super uncommon to encounter. Other conventions, conferences and tightly packed areas don’t commonly reek. Genuinely that is not the norm. However, it is at anime conventions. See where the traits come from?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:50 PM
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You explained this perfectly. I have never had any problem with a man having nerdy interests. My current bf does but like you said, its not his entire personality
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/25 07:45 PM
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Idk, ask the women who say that. I never have. I think that if you aren’t treating your partner right or you’ve let the romance die, that will inevitably lead to a lack of sex and chemistry but if the relationship is going well, there’s no reason that there should be a dead bedroom situation unless there’s a medical reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 10:26 PM
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Its important, particularly that they are not right wing or follow particular communities online. I would start with a political joke and see how they respond. So it doesn’t come off as abrasive but I still get to see their energy around the topic. There are dealbreakers. If they were MAGA, it was an automatic no. So all that entails are dealbreakers. I couldn’t care less how they engage with politics if those are the ideas that they are supporting. I wouldn’t want to have children with someone …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 08:13 PM
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Yeah that’s sad but not common from my experience and what I’ve seen. I did most of these things in my past relationships and especially in my current one
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:54 PM
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This is a hypothetical woman. I’m telling you that in the real world, a woman who doesn’t initiate anything romantic, like affection and basic displays of attraction, probably doesn’t actually like you. Like 9/10 she’s not with you because she’s attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:52 PM
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If she doesn’t want to kiss you or show affection then she’s not into you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:41 PM
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You deserve it if you’re already in a relationship. If someone has agreed to date you then they should act like a partner, not a friend who just has sex with you. Unless you’re both into that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:41 PM
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Aw I’m sorry you think that
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/25 07:40 PM
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It ranges. I had a guy stick the tip in and cum instantly. I had another guy last about an hour. Typically its around the 20-30 minute range
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 09:01 PM
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Sure dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:37 PM
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You’re deep in the red pill ideology. The fact that you would reduce a nice gesture from her husband to that. He is not red pilled, you are. So you see everything through that lens.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:32 PM
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Yes it definitely depends on how this behavior is executed. I like stuff like what he described though as long as it’s done in a healthy way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:30 PM
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Nooo that’s so sweet. I don’t see it as submissive in any context. Its only too much if it feels manipulative, like they’re only doing stuff like that to occupy your time and use it against you later but if its genuine, its welcomed. You also have to remember that not all women are the same. Some women would feel overwhelmed by such gestures but others, like me, would enjoy them. You just have to find your love match.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 07:27 PM
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Source of her experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/25 04:06 AM
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No they aren’t. You guys have deluded yourselves into thinking that every woman wants an Arnold Schwarzenegger type from being online too much. Women who are very high maintenance probably do but normal women don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:25 PM
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You’re telling me that people’s preferences change with age and experience???? Oh my god call the press.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:20 PM
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I’ve said this before actually. However, the way that you perceived my and probably others women’s words show your bias. Your assumption is that women don’t like sex because a lot of us don’t want to have sex with strangers. When actually its women don’t like sex that isn’t pleasurable. Sex with a man that you don’t know has a 50/50 chance of being worth it because a lot of men are selfish lovers. Why would we do something that isn’t worth it?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/25 12:19 PM
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Yes, tf. If my girlfriend’s preferences are not aligning with her relationship goals, I will tell her.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/25 01:15 AM
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No. 7 inches
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 11:50 PM
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Exactly my point of view
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 07:55 PM
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I can acknowledge it but I’m not going to valid someone who thinks that its an excuse to be an asshole to women or make wild accusations and insinuations. If acknowledging it led to more sensible conversations, I would do it more often. However, having an easier finding a man doesn’t mean that we have an easier time finding the right one. Dating the wrong man could have dire consequences. We have to be picky
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/25 05:33 AM
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Ask yourself that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 01:35 PM
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Yeah this was a good summary. We want a man who clicks with us, not just someone who is passable.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:37 AM
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Do you want a quality woman or a woman who wants a man like that? For example, I’m not bothered by women, who are awful people, easily attracting men because any man who finds a woman like that appealing is not one who I want. For people who gravitate towards partners, their negative traits are positives to them because they’re heavily damaged. Why are you envious that you haven’t attracted a heavily damaged person?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 05:37 AM
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Could be. I don’t think that I’ve encounter a 4 inch penis but I could be wrong. I don’t really know the exact measurements of any man that I’ve been with
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 08:45 PM
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I already explained this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 08:36 PM
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I mean, idk for sure. I just think that visually it would be a turn off for me. It would look too puny almost and I wouldn’t really want it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:43 AM
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I would imagine that 3-4 inches would be noticeably too small and 8 inches would be noticeably too big. I feel like I’ve encountered 8 inches before with an ex and sex was unbearable.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:33 AM
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I didn’t mean that it meant that size literally doesn’t matter. What I meant was that since I don’t know the exact size of most of my exes, I just remember how certain lengths worked and how certain ones didn’t and how men around the same length felt different. So I don’t really harp on exact length. When I was single, I would just wait and see how they worked them. For me, the size only matters if its abnormally small or way above a length that I know I can handle.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:31 AM
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I have never heard a woman say that 7 is average, but I have heard them say that six is average because that is what we were told for years. I remember looking it up when I was in high school and it definitely said 6 inches. Recently that has been corrected to 5 inches and the previous error has even been acknowledged as a result of shoddy research. However, it is true that we just guess about penis size instead of knowing directly because it is an awkward question to ask. That is why a lot of u…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/25 04:10 AM

I feel like I need a shower after reading this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/25 09:58 PM
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Because men can’t apply for welfare /s
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/25 02:45 PM
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I agree so hard with this. However, this post shouldn’t be gendered. Men do the same thing. I will never understand it because all it does is reflect badly on them. All of the terrible, nasty things that they did was okay while you were with them but nowwww its unacceptable? Give me a break
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 09:26 PM
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And as I have already said, crafting posts that state “Women are like” or similarly structured give the impression that all women are the same AKA vilifying us. You can keep arguing because I already know that you will but I will not engage any further. You can deny reality but I will not. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:15 AM
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Once again, okay? That doesn’t change the overall comment’s point that women are vilified in this sub because of men just like that. She answered OP’s question and your retort is some mess that doesn’t dispute a word that she said. What are you even arguing? That everyone has a different reality? That’s obvious. That doesn’t mean that painting all people with one’s reality shouldn’t be called out for what it is. What are you expecting to achieve with your replies that has anything to do with the…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:26 AM
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Okay? That doesn’t change that the post made about women make it seem as if we are that way. Of course, if someone says “Women are like this”, I would feel vilified as woman. Speaking about your experiences is different from stating what women are like definitively. What you’ve seen doesn’t change the overall comment that the person made. It doesn’t add anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:05 AM
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This guy seems like an acquired taste. I wouldn’t set someone that I know up with him either because unless they “get” him, it will go horribly wrong. He strikes me as someone who rubs people the wrong way until you really pull back the layers. If the family finds him offensive, then women who don’t get his humor or want a man who trolls for fun, would as well. He should find his match on his own.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 02:21 AM
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Then speak about your reality. Don’t state it as if it applies to all women. That’s silly
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 02:16 AM
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Dude you keep coming up with other mess, just to avoid admitting that I have a point. None of what you keep adding on disputes my overall point. You’re immune to ever conceding, so I’m going to leave it at that. Have a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:13 AM
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Okay? Instead of assuming that the women are initiating divorce for funsies, maybe consider that the number is so lopsided because the wrong people are marrying each other. Therefore, instead of pretending like divorce is something that just happens to men, realize that they played an active role in their marriage’s demise as well. So, if you don’t want that to happen to you then take a proactive role in marrying the right person and keeping your marriage alive. If you’re worried about your reso…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:11 AM
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You people who think that marriage is only a risk for men are so annoying. It is a big commitment for EVERYONE. Everything that you said, only applies to men who make more money in the relationship AND are the sole breadwinner, which a good amount of men are not. If you’re afraid of that happening to you, then simply don’t marry a woman who wants to be a stay at home mother. If I see a man who says that he’s afraid of marriage due to those reasons, I don’t need to mock him because he’s already d…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 11:32 PM
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Yes, obviously. Canned insults are all about hoping that they stick. None of that changes what I said. Also yes plenty of people shame what they’re into because they know that its “shame worthy”. You’ve never seen couples break up and start insulting each other for traits that they liked while they were together, but suddenly its a problem when they want to humiliate the person? Or seen men laugh about having sex with fat women in secret and then degrade them in public because its “embarrassing”…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 10:47 PM
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Both were in relationships before television. Amy was even married and so were all of their other overweight siblings. If you don’t like those examples then turn on My 600 lb Life and you’ll see more.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 10:22 PM
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Some of us are dealt a pretty rough hand in the looks department, I wont deny that. However, dwelling on it wont fix anything. There is literally someone out there for everyone. Look at Tammy Slaton. She’s no longer super morbidly obese but she’s still super unattractive with a body that most would be turned off by, yet she’s still in a relationship. She focused on the minority of people who would want someone like her and found her match. Its the same with her sister Amy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:51 PM
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You have literally just proved what I said. Its a canned insult that is just thrown out to hurt the intended target, especially online. It doesn’t matter if they know that it is accurate or not. I’ll provide an example of what I mean. I have had men call me a whore, slut, bitch, fat, flat booty bitch, claim that my pussy stinks and that I have a “roastie”, etc all online. None of them knew a thing about me and none of those insults applied to me, yet they still used them against nonetheless. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:44 PM
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Oh well. You may find that a good percentage of women prefer above average dicks. That still leaves millions of women who don’t. A good percentage of men prefer large breasts and big butts. I have neither and I still don’t hyperfocus on it. This conversation is so unnecessary because everyone has preferences. Just find the people who prefer you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:00 PM
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Thank you lol. You shut them up real quick
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:58 PM
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If a woman is aiming to shame men, she is not going to shame them with something that they don’t feel insecure about. Calling a man “big dick” wouldn’t hurt them, much like calling a woman “slim thick” wouldn’t hurt her. Those are both preferred body sizes in each gender. No matter how much you try to mock them for it, it wouldn’t sting. However, “small dick” and “fat” would. So women who are looking to hurt and put down men will default to the most hurtful thing to say, even if they actually do…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:57 PM
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This was very well measured and well written. You summed up how I feel lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:53 PM
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Yes, I didn’t say that it was the distance that was the problem. Its the way that most of our areas are designed. Many of them are car dependent due to poor infrastructure that didn’t integrate public transportation into its design. This is especially true for rural areas. I mean everyone thinks of capital cities when they discuss public transportation but not many factor in how rural and suburban areas are the ones who suffer the most from this. That’s one of the main reasons why the US has suc…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:53 AM
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Its not just about consumerism. Its that in the US, a vehicle is simply required in most places. There’s a reason why Europeans think that a 2 hour drive is insane and Americans think that its pretty easy. The necessity of having a car is so high that even in places where it isn’t required, our psyche still tells us that it is. Its a lot like how many culture practices, especially traditional one, were developed through necessity and even when that necessity is no longer needed, it is still prac…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 05:18 AM
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I’m guessing that she has her own car. Why would she buy his?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:47 PM
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This is very true. I used to put “I don’t have a vehicle” in the bio of my dating accounts, in case that was a dealbreaker for anyone, and it didn’t stop me from getting matches. Men actually found it adorable that I would be their passenger princess all of the time. They also didn’t care that I was unemployed. Its true that independence is expected from men by women, but men couldn’t really careless about it from women. I’m sure that it has to do with the gendered expectation of men to be the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 06:43 PM
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You nailed it with this one lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 07:38 PM
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Thank you, that’s my point as well. I said something simple, that didn’t even mention gender, and then suddenly I’m a trolling, hypocritical, misandrist woman. It was such a childish leap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:31 AM
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Several countries have offered incentives to encourage marriage and reproduction. It hasn’t worked. There are also several tax advantages to being married now. Still hasn’t worked. This also wouldn’t guarantee undesirable men entering relationships. Women can marry other women and average men. The ones who are so undesired that they’ve never been laid once probably wouldn’t be picked. I can see the thought process behind thinking that could be successful. It’s better than the rest on this list. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 11:27 AM
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Thank you. Its wild that this concept is being debated lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:44 AM
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All of that without answering the most important question. How can the government force women to date lonely male virgins without it being totalitarian? We’re never going to see eye on to eye on that other stuff because I can tell that its very personal for you, so I won’t waste time arguing about it. Tell me your plan instead. How do you think the state can enforce mandatory relationships with undesirable men without totalitarianism?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 09:40 AM
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You chose to read it in a seething tone. It was more frustration. I’m long winded, so everything that I say is a paragraph. I could write a paragraph about my love of cheese. I’m just wordy, that’s not rage. I could argue that you’re the one in a rage because you keep using emotive expressions like “What the hell?” and “Are you serious”, but I won’t because that would be stupid. I was frustrated with being called a misandrist and other insults, just because I said something that he disagreed wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:23 AM
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You’re entitled to your views of what you consider overreaching by the government, but I, personally, don’t have a problem with paying taxes that go back into society. I only have an issue when they are misused and expected to be paid by the working class, while the upper class doesn’t pay nearly as much as they should. I don’t agree with the draft and never have. Unfortunately, no society is totally free from governmental control, but that doesn’t mean that we should relinquish all freedoms. Ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:15 AM
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There is no rage quitting. Show me where the rage is? You can engage with people who are unnecessarily hostile and insulting if you would like to but I will not. How can an honest dialogue be had with people who enter with such aggression and attacks? I’m not discussing or debating anything with anyone who has already strawmanned me. I have done that enough on this app and I’m tired of it. You people have a hostile argumentative style and I don’t want anything to do with. Frankly, that shouldn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:05 AM
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Maybe in a totalitarian country, but in a free one, no the state cannot. Even if the state were to enforce monogamy (I’m assuming that you’re talking about monogamy outside of marriage because polygamous marriages are already outlawed), that still wouldn’t guarantee that everyone would be chosen for a relationship. No one is owed a relationship, like I said, and the state cannot make anyone marry specific people unless society were to change into a dystopian nightmare or something like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 04:54 AM
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I am a woman. Do you know how comical it is to tell someone that they’re clueless about what they like? Lmao, you’re killing me. However, it is clear that you’re digging your feet in on this, so there’s no point in engaging further. As the women that you’re interested in continue dating men who show interest in them from the beginning, enjoy being the guy who friendzoned himself and is now seen as their little brother. If it works for you, then have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:12 AM
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I was going to engage earnestly at first because you raised interesting points that I wanted to address, but not after I read that last sentence. You Red Pilled types would not know how to have an honest dialogue without being hostile even if it was to save your life. Every woman who disagrees with you is not a misandrist. You sound like blue haired feminists who call everyone sexist. You are both two sides of the same shitty coin and I will not be entertaining it any further. You can continue a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:07 AM
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I wouldn’t reject him for that. Approaching someone is totally normal. You have spent too much time online and you think that a relatively few speak for all women. My friend is in a happy relationship now with her boyfriend who approached her at her job. Men get rejected for approaching women because they’re unattractive, either physically or through how they approached. Its not because they approached them, period.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 03:01 AM
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Everything you listed can be adjusted through legislation. Relationships are interpersonal. No one owes you a relationship but we are owed a fair society
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 01:58 AM
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You’re strawmanning. I have no problem with a man making it clear that he is interested in me romantically from the beginning. I prefer that over him pretending like he wants to be my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:23 PM
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This. I’ve been saying this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 05:22 PM
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You tell me. You’re the one who replied to my comment to argue lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:47 AM
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Yeah, I never denied any of that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:39 AM
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Then he discusses it with his partner. If he is still unsatisfied and feels like nothing will change, then he leaves. I see nothing wrong with watching porn in a relationship, together or separately, but if two people agree that it’s considered cheating for them, then that’s what it is. You can’t violate the boundaries of your relationship and not expect repercussions for any reason. If it is considered cheating then its cheating.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:26 AM
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Your point? That doesn’t change that desperation is undesirable. Finding out that someone was so desperate that they paid for nudes and conversation, something that is easy to obtain for free, screams that something is off. It is what it is. Don’t shoot the messenger.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:23 AM
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The morally righteous “Cheating should be illegal” argument has always been so goofy to me and it will always be. Murder, theft and sexual violence, etc directly cause physical and tangible harm. They are not outlawed due to morals but due to the unrest that they would cause in society if they were legal. There is nothing moral about it. It is simply about keeping law and order. Cheating does not cause the same unrest. It results in interpersonal ramifications and thats it. So the government sta…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:23 PM
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You’re assuming that women have all of these great options and men don’t. You’re mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:15 PM
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Very good point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 05:50 AM
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I don’t care when it’s just watching porn and thats it. Personally, I love porn and don’t have a problem with it at all. I watch it with my partner often. The issue lies in how the types of men that you mentioned internalize pornography and allow it to warp their sense of reality. The repeated mentions of cuckoldry amongst those groups is a prime example. If anyone allows porn to dictate their sense of reality and perception of the opposite gender, then yes that’s a problem and they could possib…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 05:47 AM
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Honestly you’re talking about outliers. There’s a reason why its notable when an ugly broke man gets with a much more attractive woman. It doesn’t happen often. Usually the man is ugly and rich or ugly with a mid salary that he spends almost entirely her. If he’s not making more than her and spoiling her, it’s not common at all for an ugly man to get a much more attractive woman. Maybe an average man but not an ugly one. Ugly men typically get with equally ugly women or average women, which is f…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 03:39 PM
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What?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 05:36 PM
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Lmaooo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 09:58 PM
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I’ve always been aware of my looks. I’m cute but I’m not super hot or anything, so I’ve always preferred average men. Men who don’t turn heads but are still attractive to me. That’s the type of men who approach me as well. I didn’t have to lower my standards because they’ve always been realistic. Lowering your standards for others probably comes from recognizing that they don’t attract their type or that it never ends well with their type. Also if their type feels unattainable. There’s no legit …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:34 PM
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Can you rewrite your comment because I don’t understand what you’re saying
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:08 PM
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You specifically added your little quoted remark for “an easy lay” lol. Frankly if you just want sex and you make that clear upfront, there’s nothing wrong with that either. Hookups exist for a reason. Just don’t lead anyone on. Regardless, having standards that you know are unattainable doesn’t mean that there’s no hope. It just means that you’re not being realistic.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 05:01 PM
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Right! That’s exactly my point. You never see any above 6’s on that show and it makes sense because the person is 600+ pounds. Of course they wont attract a conventionally attractive person but they find someone who is suitable for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:57 PM
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Men do the same. Everyone should make sure that they’re not with someone like that, attractive or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:55 PM
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You jumped to sex. I was talking about if you’re looking for a relationship. If you know that your looks would not pull a super attractive or even average looking woman, but still want a relationship and a family then lower your physical standards or learn how to handle rejection. There are options for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:54 PM
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What men, who think that they’re boring, need to do is become entertaining and fun to be around. Being funny and engaging will get you far, even if you are average looking. Now if you’re ugly, it probably won’t. However, the solution to that is to aim for women who are in your looks bracket.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:37 PM
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Appearance also factors into attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:33 PM
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If you’re really unattractive then just lower your standards to people who are also really unattractive. Super unattractive people find partners all of the time. Look at Tammy Slaton and Amy Slaton. They always have partners because they don’t aim too high
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:32 PM
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That’s a good point actually lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 04:31 PM
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I hate to be so mean here but this comment is literally the dumbest thing that I have ever read. With one sentence, you managed to show that you completely lack critical thinking and just logic in general. Child birth has never been pleasurable and is notoriously tremendously painful despite the vagina dilating to handle it. Why tf would you compare that to having sex when it creates the opposite feeling that sex is supposed to create?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:39 PM

For sure. It’s just men who take it to the extreme like OP said.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:35 PM
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There will always be people who benefit from pretty privilege in every gender and sexuality. Men are not exempt from focusing on desirability in a partner either. However, that doesn’t change that people in each other’s league always find each other. Notice how half of the people on the show My 600 LB Life are in relationships? Because they found people reasonably within their standards. There are more women who are aware of this than you think. That last sentence is simply untrue. Unconventiona…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:50 PM
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That’s what you think. You have not met every woman on the planet. You focus on your lack of prospects with such a doomer mentality and then wonder why you’re still single. If you’ve convinced yourself that most women are terrible with terrible preferences then of course you will not recognize women who aren’t that way. It’s the same with the genders reversed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:33 PM
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Not that you should be ashamed. You don’t have to feel shame for something out of your control, but people shouldn’t lie about it being a hinderance either. A micro penis is too small for most women. People shouldn’t dismiss your feelings about it by pretending like that isn’t the case
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:19 PM
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This lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:14 PM
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Thank you! Like what does worthy mean to these men? If a young woman is looking for a “worthy” man and she’s “worthy” herself, she would not go for the man who has multiple baby mamas and children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:13 PM
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The issue here is that you’re assuming that what is considered “worthy” is the same for all women. Your idea of “premium” seems to be a man wealthy and suave enough to attract younger women who would want to procreate with him lol. Your preferences don’t equal all women’s. For me, a man who is worthy of a relationship is one who would not do such a thing. Idk why you think that a lying, cheating, promiscuous, disloyal and compulsive man is a “worthy” one. Let alone a man who has created multiple…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:11 PM
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Those people are silly and ridiculous then
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:59 PM
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If he doesn’t specify what “small” is to him, of course people will assume that. Men do compare themselves to porn way too often. However if he says “I’m 3 inches”, then that will give the reader more perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:28 PM
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Truly you cannot be annoyed at women because majority of us are not attracted to super small dicks. The average is 5 inches, so anything below 4 is really small. Its not wrong that only a small percentage of women would be attracted to that. Try to find that small percentage instead
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:11 PM
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They’re onto something. That’s how it is for me. I can’t stand big dicks. They hurt
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:06 PM
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That’s a very awkward question to ask and it opens the door for sexual discussions, which some may not want to have too early on. It gives the wrong image
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 06:04 PM
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In this specific thread, I was replying to that other guy’s comment. If you’re not speaking about people like me, then you shouldn’t have replied.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:17 AM
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A success rate that high is not due to a lack of effort. Of course some of that percentage could just be due to the man being naturally horned up, but you can’t say that it got that high from women doing nothing to illicit that “response”. I’ve been involved with both kinds of men. I had a 100% success rate with both, while I received 0% back from the one who came too fast and maybe a 10% from the one who took awhile. Both were selfish lovers, which unfortunately is not uncommon.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:15 AM
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I’m not saying that there isn’t responsibility on the women to close it, but men need to take accountability as well. If your partner is unsatisfied majority of the time then consider that you’re doing something wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:48 PM
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Yes, of course. There clearly is a lot of effort from women because men cum almost 100% of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:46 PM
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And you based this off of a survey that received 31 response about anal? 31 women is what you’re basing your whole argument on? That low of a number hardly speaks for even a tiny percentage of women. Conveniently you skipped over the 80% cum from oral. However, based on your other comment, acknowledging that wouldn’t serve your pov would it? Since you have such a problem with men warming up their female partners before sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:08 PM
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That’s what sex is between two people. Wtf are you talking about lmao? Women stimulate men, so yes we deserve to be stimulated back. If I’m in a relationship where my partner is finishing 100% of the time but I rarely do or even worse, never do. Then clearly he is being stimulated well by me and I am not. That’s what the orgasm gap is about. You do need to turn on your partner to have a successful relationship. Women do their part for men. Men have to do the same for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:04 PM
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And you’re assuming that equals men who are boring? Everyone wants a partner whom they have a good time with. Its not so much being entertained but more like “How well do we bounce off each other’s energy?” If a man is boring to a woman, it’s hard to find that spark or continue to want to date them. I’m shy due to ADHD but the guy who I’m talking to is quite outgoing. He’s “better” than me in socializing and I like that because I hate my shyness. I like someone who takes me out of my comfort zon…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:11 PM
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So pretty much women should have the same mentality as men “I’ll take what I can get.”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 10:00 PM
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With there being such a big gap, male partners have to take some responsibility. There is a reason why lesbians are more likely to achieve orgasms with their partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:35 PM
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Idk where you got this from. Warming up involves equal participation. Rubbing, touching, oral, etc all mutual acts. Its supposed to be arousing to see your partner get worked up as you get worked up as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 09:31 PM
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Yes, its human nature. If you want to get into a relationship with other humans then its par for the course. Explain your ideas and frame them correctly if you want to be heard instead of dismissed as unattractive or strange. You can dislike reality but that wont change it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:48 PM
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It what it is man. You sound young, so maybe that’s why this confuses you but labels carry connotations. That’s something that I had to learn when I was younger as well. If you start out identifying yourself with a group or a label instead of just explaining your positions then, people will expect you to act like how that group acts or they’ll fill in the gaps themselves based on the definition of the group. Its better to explain your POV than to call yourself something OR yeah, do what you said…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:19 PM
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You don’t have to pretend to do anything but the truth is that self identifying with those terms turns people off. You can talk about the problems that you see in the world and with humanity without making it look like that’s your entire identity. Calling yourself a misanthrope is identifying with something so cringe. That’s like going on a first date and calling yourself a nihilist. Its a not a huge people magnet.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:53 PM
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I never said that I wouldn’t like to know. I was trying to say that this commenter is being dramatic because a man lying about not being a virgin wouldn’t bother me anyways. Like I wouldn’t be super pissed off if I found out later that he didn’t tell me that he was a virgin before we had sex. If he wants to tell me, he can. I would be cautious and I might feel some pressure but I don’t care if he tells me or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 07:26 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with seeing flaws in both genders but self identifying as a “misanthropist” would be a bigger turn off than him being a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 07:22 PM
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I feel like you added a lot of extra details in there that I didn’t say. Idk where you got “situationship” from or that I negate virgin men from my life. I said in another comment that I would be cautious about dating one but that I wouldn’t completely write them off over that, which is the opposite of negating. Regardless, the answer to your question is the same answer to anything being kept a secret that otherwise would bother a person if they knew. Its an old wise saying: What you don’t know,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 11:26 AM
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I don’t have a problem with a guy not divulging that information. I get it. Its the same way with women and their body counts. Sometimes its best not to volunteer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:57 AM
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Yes, admittedly. I would be listening extra hard to his verbiage and the things that he says about women and relationships to see if there are any red flags/dog whistles. I wouldn’t immediately write him off but I would be cautious.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:51 AM

Honestly I see this with both genders. My grandma has an accounting degree and does our entire family’s taxes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:35 PM

Can you provide an example of what you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:34 PM
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Okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 08:22 PM
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Some men take pleasure in that as well. An asshole is an asshole regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:30 AM
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Your phrasing makes it seem as if the issue is being approached in general. I don’t mind being approached if the man accepts “I’m not interested.” and that’s it. Its when their vibe feels pushy and “No” isn’t enough
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:29 AM
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I’m speaking for women like myself
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/25 12:12 AM
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Women, obviously. I don’t understand why you’re confused about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 11:17 PM
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I’m just telling you what its like to actually be a woman dude. Its not the frustration that you’re being approached, its the frustration that you have to reject them in a certain way or things could escalate.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:48 PM
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We’re not frustrated by that. We’re frustrated by how men react when we reject them or when they approach aggressively.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:40 PM

If you haven’t seen it then you haven’t gotten out much. I see men with women who are around the same height as them everyday. The height difference is minimal. Of course there are women who prefer men much taller than them but it isn’t as widespread as you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:44 PM

It’s not disingenuous to dismiss them when the person is told that their insecurities aren’t true with all women and they still insist that they are. I have had so many men tell me that I’m lying when I say that I prefer small to average dicks
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:42 PM

Yes! Every time that I have comment that my preference is for small to average penises, there is a man who insists that I must be lying. Its pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:41 PM
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When and where did I mention porn lol? I spoke strictly about how my sexual experiences have been lackluster. Watching porn does not count as sexual experience. No I’m not anti-porn at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:30 PM
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Sex positive. I’ve just had very little positive sexual experiences. I don’t mean like I’ve been SA-ed or anything like that but a lot of my sexual experiences have mostly been mid. So I’m not crazy about sex and its not something that’s on my mind often.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:09 AM
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Of course not, I’m not a woman. Why would men telling you how you feel bother me? Exactly. Go somewhere with your hypocritical ass. Hang around and be pathetic if you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:06 AM
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This entire subreddit is full of men who attempt to tell women how we feel and our intentions. Do you complain about that as well? If it bothers you so much, then leave the subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:51 AM
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You worded this well. There’s a reason why women equate not having friends as loneliness, whereas men equate not having romantic relationships as loneliness. Even if men have friends, they still feel alone because their friendship’s lack emotional depth or vulnerability.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:54 AM
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It’s a factor. Everything physical is a factor in relation to attractiveness. No one woman can speak for all women. That is precisely why I know that all of our preferences cannot be grouped in together. Societal narratives are spread by those who have a voice and are listened to. Would it be fair for me to say that most men believe all of the horrid things that Andrew Tate says about women and views them exactly how he does? Or that most men have the preferences of Fresh & Fit just because they…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 06:22 AM
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Thank you for actually providing a study, but honestly it doesn’t hold much weight to me. It was more of a rhetorical question. Attractiveness is subjective and it doesn’t take away from my original point. OP was saying that women are dishonest about what they really prefer and I was merely telling him that he was wrong. If women weren’t attracted to men under 6 feet then they would never get into relationships. The perceived attractiveness of short men’s partners has nothing to do with my initi…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 06:09 AM
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Where are your metrics on that? Attractiveness is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 05:49 AM
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YES. The filth would piss me off tbh lol
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:17 AM
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Why are you blaming that on feminism? I’m not a feminist but I follow some feminist ideals and I keep my place spotless. My sister is not a feminist at all and her place is always filthy. My mom is a feminist and she’s like me. You people always say weird things up here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:17 AM
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💀 I’m dead
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:15 AM
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Using public bathrooms as a measure of anything is hilarious. Many people go in and out of them every hour, yet it only takes one person to make it absolutely filthy. Thats not even counting the way that people treat public spaces vs their own. Its not really a measure of anything
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:15 AM
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I went to a guy’s house who I was like this and I ended our courtship right afterwards. I could never date someone who is comfortable living in filth
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:13 AM
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This group is obsessed with this topic, wow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:08 AM
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As I already said, studies in the past have shown that the average was 6 inches. I remember reading about it years ago. However, this was a misconception that I’m just now finding out about. There were errors in those studies. I can provide you an article that explains it. I didn’t just think it, I read it. Now I know that it was off. A few inches is not that life changing for me though. I’ve been with men of different sizes and I know what I like and can handle. The preferable size for me is sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:53 PM
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Definitely not a jealous rage lol. I would ask what they were talking about though
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:27 PM
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5-6 means between those numbers. The difference doesn’t really matter to me regardless. It tracks.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:25 PM
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You love to pick and choose what to respond to, don’t you lol? Studies for awhile have said that the average penis is 6 inches, I’m now seeing that its 5-6 inches, which proves my point further. In relation to penis size, whats attractive is what feels the most pleasurable. Most women aren’t size queens, so the bigger the better doesn’t always equal that. Even studies have shown that women prefer around 6 inches.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:07 PM
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When did I say that I thought that users were okay with that? I said that that’s what I have a problem with, not just men making more money.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:56 PM
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I mean you can think it, but men under 6 feet get into relationships and married everyday. Like 50% of men are married in the US, yet 15% of all men are over 6 feet tall. Dont even get me started on Latin countries. Clearly short men are getting into relationships and usually with shorter women. Its just that, like with big dicks, tall men are all the rave right now. That doesn’t change that there are discrepancies between the media and people in real life. The average dick is 6 inches. Women ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:35 PM
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If this entire post is about penis size then why did you make the title seem that it was about physical preferences in general lmao? Honestly I don’t have an answer for that specific body part because I’m always honest in my responses. I’ve been accused of lying by men because they genuinely can’t believe that a woman would prefer small to average penises, but I’m telling the truth. That’s what I like. I don’t agree with “the bigger the better” and its pretty much the opposite for me. Now, I wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:23 PM
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I didn’t need all of that. I never specifically said “wage gap or pay gap”. If it adds up and makes sense, then I don’t have a problem. I’m referring to when it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:06 PM
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I’m not arguing with you people because there’s nothing to argue about. If you feel like I got owned then, sure hon. Enjoy how it feels to live through another Redditor’s comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:02 PM
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Okay babes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:50 PM
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What are you talking about? I have no problem with men making more money. I have a problem with wage discrepancies that don’t add up, such as women making less than men in the same field.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:03 PM
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No amount. I couldn’t imagine having millions and not being able to help my family ever.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:31 PM
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I think that its tacky to put “If you look like this, don’t match” on your profile but there’s no reason to be hurt by it. You don’t even know that person. Their opinion shouldn’t matter that much
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:50 PM
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This is actually a pretty good point lol. I’m a thin woman and what you said applies to me perfectly. I find it tacky and mean spirited when men include “No fat women” on their profiles and I automatically swipe left despite not being fat. Their preferences are fine but I don’t see why they can’t just swipe left on fat women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:46 PM
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This. My favorite is when men use their profiles to complain about women on the app. It tells me all that I need to know about them and I immediately swipe left, no matter how they look
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:42 PM
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So people should waste their time by going out with others that they barely know anything about?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:39 PM
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How in the world can you say what someone else’s dealbreakers should be lmao? That’s not how that works. They are unique to every person. A dealbreaker for me is someone who smacks while they eat. For someone else, they may not mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:37 PM
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Very valid
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:36 PM
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Lying about it wont get you anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:35 PM
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I think you’re a little too sensitive. I’m not bothered by it. I prefer to know upfront that I’m not their type so that I don’t waste a like. It doesn’t faze me at all because I don’t know them. Their lack of attraction to me is not worth dwelling over.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 10:34 PM
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Did I say that it couldn’t? Everyone cultivates the relationship that they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 04:45 AM
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If I told them that I could pay, then its on them if they still think that its bs. Men do have control over their actions, in case you didn’t realize it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:38 PM
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Why would they feel obligated to do anything regardless?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:55 PM
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You left out that men insist on paying regardless. I’ve initiated dates and still the men voluntarily paid. When I would tell them that I could pay, they would look at me like I would crazy and tell me not to worry about it. If you’re a moderately good looking woman, men will want to impress you, especially in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:50 PM
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I never ask beforehand. Its too awkward. I just let the date play out.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 09:39 PM
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If there is zero attraction, no. If they’re average looking or just kind of cute then yeah
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 11:47 PM
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Women don’t bond over being victims. We just support each other. Men don’t. I’ve been saying that the reason why men are so depressed is because of how poorly they treat each other. Men are terrible at building genuine communities. Even when they do, they bond over hating other groups. They barely even build advocacy for each other. For example, there have been movements and organizations built by women to raise awareness about femicide and sexual assault. However, I havent seen men organize and…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 07:58 PM

Awww honey, are you bothered?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 06:13 PM

Honey then why mention feminists at all? You were replying to my comment. If you weren’t calling me a feminist then you need to learn how to word your sentences better. How are they getting out of it? By not having a job?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:26 PM
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How is it moot? That proves it even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:25 PM
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They always forget that we date each other too lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:57 PM

I’m not a feminist honey. I don’t need to be to recognize stupidity. I really don’t care about your morals or what you think is a moral obligation. If they’re in the US and she petitions the court for a DNA test AND applies for government assistance, the state will go after him regardless. Whine all you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:56 PM
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You immediately jumped to physical characteristics. Lmao there are more importantly standards than looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:10 PM
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Oh my god shut up. All you men do up here is whine about this idea that women just want the top 10% or whatever. Do you really think that every average man thinks like you? Those are the kinds that I’m mainly attracted to and they constantly have “short term” “still deciding” “not sure yet” on their profiles. You’re making so many assumptions about the entire dating pool based on yourself. Even the ones not looking for casual sex, still want sex super early. They still just want sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 05:45 AM
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Yes this is it. Now would I continue dating someone who cares that much about plastic surgery? No, but it should be brought up if it means that much to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 01:16 AM
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Lying by omission only counts when the person knows that what they’re omitting is something that you would want to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 01:15 AM
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Okay so if the common factor is deceit and I guess your take on it is that if one person is deceiving, the other should be allowed to as well, then all deceit is fine within that framework right? So if a man is lying about his intentions, then it should be acceptable for a woman to lie about being a birth control. Honestly, it’s silly. Unless you ask a woman if her face/body is all natural, she’s not lying by not sharing it with you immediately. How is she supposed to know that its that’s big of…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 01:10 AM
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Why compare plastic surgery to something that has nothing to do with it? Just say that if women get to hide that they’ve had work done then men do too. Literally why are you acting like plastic surgery and someone’s intentions have anything to do with each other? They’re not comparable
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 09:40 PM
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Well I can’t speak for all women, just myself. The most attractive parts of a man’s personality to me are Humor Reliability Willingness to learn and engage Compassion Patience Confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:32 PM
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Its harder to interact with someone that you find attractive because you’re so nervous about looking silly or stupid in front of them. So I definitely have an easier time interacting with men who aren’t attractive to me but I’m never flirty.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 08:23 PM
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For sure, I always thought that I was considerate of others. I was raised to be that way, but I still stumbled in my first relationship. It was a different, much higher level of consideration that was expected out of me and I struggled to do adapt. I don’t know if I would have the patience to want to deal with that with another person, now that I’m older.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:46 PM
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“Lots” is the key word here. Most people by the age of 25 have been in one or two relationships. Not lots.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:37 PM
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This is my point as well. I’m open to being someone’s first relationship but I don’t know how much patience I’ll have.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:36 PM
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I think about myself during my first relationship. There were so many mistakes I made just because I had never been in one. My biggest mistake was how bad I was at compromising and considering the other person. I was used to thinking about me, so I struggled to develop the mindset of “us”. Now with practice, that’s easier to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:34 PM
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Yeah that’s 100% what that was lmao. I don’t even know where he was trying to go with that one. He just wanted to fuss.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:24 PM
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No matter how you view it or who you blame, regardless things have changed and they’re not going back. Men need to adapt instead of whining.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:36 PM
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I’m sure it does for the woman that you want. That’s the beauty of us each having our own standards
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:34 PM
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Its kind of hilarious how there’s always one man who gets riled up by this sentiment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 05:33 PM
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Really I don’t think that its as bad as your framing it. They’re purchasing what the women are selling, not them. The women are selling companionship, sex, a girlfriend experience etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:53 PM
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Honestly I don’t have a problem with it. There’s a demand for everything and people who are willing to provide the service. As long as they don’t abuse the women that they solicit for their company, I’m not fazed by it. People should do whatever they can to make themselves less lonely within reasonable means.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:51 PM
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Honestly its sooo refreshing to see another person point out that the economy plays the biggest role in this. I’ve always seen articles and such highlight it, but rarely other people. Everyone thinks that it has to do with the gender war mess, but no. It’s because the world is getting more expensive to live in. These men need to adapt and accept that things have changed instead of clinging so hard to the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 07:24 PM
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I’ve been saying this. That’s why I hate it when men blame women for why traditional family dynamics are not as prevalent anymore because it’s not all on us. Its the economy that has made it almost impossible for a family to live off one income unless its 6 figures.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 07:09 PM
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Dude what do you think a traditional man is? Their one and only job is to provide. That’s what they bring to the relationship. Do you think that has nothing to do with money?? Seriously which is it with you?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 05:08 PM
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This. If I met a truly traditional man who I can trust to cover the finances, my hobbies, beauty regime, shopping habits (All things that I can afford on my own) then I’ll be a traditional wife. That’s just a rare find these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 05:06 PM
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No you’re not correct. The only reason why you think that women are the only ones who can give true affection to their babies is because you’ve always seen women in that role. Do you really know if those same women are complaining about men not being traditional, or are you just assuming? Frankly, half of the households in my country have two working parents. Men who are not traditional, should take an active role in parenting.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/25 05:04 PM
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Masturbation is 100% more fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 06:55 AM
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That’s quite literally what the comment that he responded to already said. How is he rational for repeating a point that’s already been made? Yes. Once again, that’s what the main comment already said. Why would “they” (Im assuming you mean the original commenter) hate they’re own point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:28 AM
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Dude just be happy with your barely legal teen. I don’t see why you feel the need to defend your cradle robbing if you’re so happy with her. I dated a man around your age when I was 18. I don’t find it weird now that I’m older because of any of that mess that you’re talking about. Its weird because I’m not anywhere near his age yet and I still wouldn’t even look in the direction of a fresh out of high school teenager. I can’t understand why a grown man wanted my company. I was mature for my age …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:21 AM
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What was rational about what he said? This is a reoccurring topic by the men in this sub. If the discussion of it is such a bother, then wrong sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:08 AM
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Dude, that is literally what every man is doing when they bring up this topic. This is the first post about paternity tests that I’ve seen written by a woman up here. Usually, they are written by men, imagining a hypothetical scenario where they’re lied to and tricked by a woman or they’re demanding a world with mandatory DNA tests. That’s all the topic has been in this sub. Pot meet kettle.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:07 AM
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Yes, they do. That’s the entire point of the post. Literally everything is possible, but red pillers and manosphere podcast bros love to act as if old men can easily pull barely legal women. They claim that men can wait to settle down in their 40s and 50s because they’re still producing sperm and young women will want to be with them. They neglect the part to tell them that that’s rarely the case unless the man has a lot of money and is comfortable with the relationship being transactional or in…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:19 PM
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Believable or not, it doesn’t change that what you’re describing is rare. Most young women require financial assistance to entertain an older man, especially for settling down with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 08:21 PM
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Where tf did you get that from?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 07:27 PM
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Okay. Like you said, minority. That proves what my overall point was.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 07:26 PM
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Sure dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 07:26 PM
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Minimum height: 5’3 because I’m 5’1. He has to be taller than me. Minimum fitness level: I don’t really care that much as long as he isn’t morbidly obese or on the other end of the spectrum, a gym nut. I don’t want some roided up dude who’s obsessed with calories. Minimum income: $40,000 a year Minimum amount of unappealing male hobbies: I’m not sure how to answer this one. Hobbies that I dislike in a partner are hiking and an obsession with video games. If they can’t keep those to a minimum, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 07:44 AM
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Of course they think that because it isn’t super common. The average age difference between couples is 2.3 years, meaning that many people have not encountered relationships with a wide age gap. They’re basing their opinions on their reality. However, I dated a man in his 30s when I was younger and now (Still in my early 20s), I still would. That doesn’t change that none but one of my friends feel the same way as me lol. It isn’t super rare, but it is uncommon
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 07:15 AM
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You’re 27 dude. You don’t belong anywhere near the category of older men lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 06:11 AM
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Honestly a 9 year age difference at your age and hers isn’t a significant enough gap to count as the ones being discussed her. Red pillers think that 40+ year old men can pull women in their early 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 06:10 AM
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The issue is that these men think that younger women will date them due to attraction. Even the minority of young women who will give them a chance, will only do so if they think that there is a financial advantage. If that older man is expecting a younger woman to go 50/50 with them then he’s sorely mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 06:07 AM
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Yes, because they sign an abundance of paperwork to ensure that. Without that, they very well could be. This man hit it raw. He made his choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 08:53 PM
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You’re describing a situation where there is no consent. OP’s friend saw that she took the condom off and verbally heard her say to come inside of her. He chose to do so. If he had no idea that she did that, you would have a point but you don’t. No one is a victim because of the outcome of their personal choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 08:51 PM
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It would be easier and cheaper to use a condom but yes this could be done as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 08:48 PM
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Nowhere do we see it mentioned that she was on BC, as in he knew when he nutted in that it could 100% result in pregnancy. There’s also nowhere that mentions him making sure that the Plan B was acquired. It sounds like he trusted her word and went home. He took no active steps to make sure that what he just willingly did wouldn’t result in a pregnancy. Yes, they’re equally to blame. He put the outcome of their encounter entirely in her hands. Now he wants to act like the victim, as if he did eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 08:47 PM
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That’s literally how it works in the US. Before they issue government assistance, they supplement a part of it through the absent parent by serving them with child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 08:41 PM
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That’s assuming that she’s in a state that allows abortion.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 08:40 PM
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Nowhere in the story do we see her mention that she was on birth control. In fact, I wonder if she said that she would take Plan B before or after he came in her. Regardless, this man made the decision to impregnate her. Only he can control where his seed goes and he made the decision to shoot it inside of her. Now he has to deal with the consequences of his recklessness
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 08:39 PM
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Then he will learn his lesson about nutting in women that he doesn’t want to have children with. Men know their biological limitations. Once the egg is fertilized, they lose direct control over what happens to it. That is why they should be proactive in preventing the fertilization. This woman was not his girlfriend, therefore, there was no reason for him to have blind trust in her. He should have used a condom or at the very least made sure that a Plan B was bought and taken that night. He was …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 08:36 PM
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Your friend is dumb as rocks. If he really didn’t want kids then he wouldn’t have nutted in her without ensuring himself that she bought and took the plan B. He really left her place without watching her take it??? Dude is plain stupid. He should have bought it for her or at least took her to the store to buy it that night. The reality is that each sex has limitations based on our biology. Of course she has control over the pregnancy once she is impregnated. That’s just the advantage that the ca…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 08:33 PM
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I couldn’t find an identical story. I found one that included MAGA girlfriend to illustrate how yes people do side with the man when MAGA is involved. Its not just always about supporting women. I think that both spouses in the fake story that OP provided and the one that you wrote are doing too much. However, if your story was posted in a MAGA group they would side with the husband because they hate Kamala. AITA hates Trump. If you flipped the genders, it would probably be the same outcome beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 05:03 PM
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Can you read or comprehend? Show me where I made any judgement about the woman in the story’s behavior. Your brain is making that up, I said nothing of the sort. I also didn’t move the goalposts anywhere. The comment that you replied to is exactly what I already said. You’re using words, but you don’t understand what they mean.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 05:23 AM
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Daily.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 04:01 AM
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Common sense? Most of the stories are outlandish and these days seem to be combinations of previous AITA stories and/or topics that get people riled up and easily on one side. They’re stories. Do you really that there aren’t a lot of creative writers on that sub?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 03:53 AM
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https://np.reddit.com/r/relationship_advice/s/NcdUgLhLgD Here’s where the genders are reversed. Its a much smaller post, but you see how the likes and comments are on his side? People don’t like Trump or the right.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 03:31 AM
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A case study? Its a Reddit post babes. You know that like 80% of AITA posts are fake right? Why would you base your reality on them? That isn’t an example of anything, it’s just entertainment. Don’t use Reddit or online opinions to base your worldview on. Yes, that includes the comments. People just hate Trump and they will support anything that’s against him and his supporters. They’re not thinking about it through a financial abuse angle, but through the fact that Trump sucks and they can’t st…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 03:06 AM
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I’ve lent my male friends and helped them when they needed it. I was on the phone for an hour with my bro because he saw old notes that his ex used to write him and it made him sad. Like I said, you’re speaking from your experience. Women don’t like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 11:54 PM
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My male friends have never done this for me. My female friends have though and I have done it for them. Maybe your female friends just don’t like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 11:34 PM
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She just gave you the answer 🤦🏾‍♀️. She finds women appealing and pleasing to the eye because of how women present themselves to the world. That doesn’t equal sexual attraction for her. Women are just aesthetically beautiful, like she said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 08:13 PM
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I’m definitely a woman who prefers men but I find women to be very attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 08:11 PM
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The fairness lies in each sex’s limitations. Men impregnate and women become pregnant. Those physical differences carry their own responsibilities and consequences. You can complain about them but that wont change them. Instead recognize them and be proactive with the role that you play. If you don’t want to deal with being stuck with a child that you don’t want then that’s your only option.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:22 AM
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You can think this all that you want to but the state doesn’t care about that. The most important thing to them is that this child is not a burden on the system. Therefore, if the child receiving the optimal amount of resources means making the absent parent pay then that is how it will be. There’s a reason why whenever a woman qualifies for government benefits, it is required that the father is put on child support first. They issue it themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/25 09:18 AM
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Women aren’t a monolith. There is no set way that all women expect men to be. Have you ever seen my 600lb pound life? Majority of the men up there have wives and girlfriends. Men either need to set their sights for women who are in their league or figure out why no woman is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 05:11 PM
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I never said that OP hates himself. I wasn’t talking about him, I was talking about other men who do. If someone being themselves results in them never attracting a partner, then I don’t think that its right to put all of the blame on everyone else. There’s only one common denominator in that instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 08:21 AM
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I agree. No one should pretend to be someone they’re not to attract a partner. However, I’ve noticed that the “Be dominant, be confident, be assertive” etc advice usually is given after a man who is not like that complains about his lack of prospects or wants to become someone else. Those dating coaches would not be successful or even exist if men, who don’t embody “dominant”traits didn’t seek them out for their services. The kind of men who are given this advice are usually the one who do not l…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 03:37 AM
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If a man is good looking and charming, then the misogyny won’t even be noticeable until the woman is already roped in. Not sure what your questions have to do with the post though.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 12:53 AM
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Because I don’t want a son who just has a bunch of sex with women without ever settling down and treats women who are not sexually desirable to him poorly. Sex is not everything. I would not be proud of having a 30 year old son who is still playing the field and saying immature shit like “Relationships just aren’t for me.” I especially would not want a son who thinks that it’s acceptable to be a dick to “ugly” women or a son who will have a bunch of baby mamas because they can’t keep in their pa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 05:34 PM
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Yeah, I wouldn’t want to watch my son repeatedly try to make romantic connections, knowing that I already chose a lonely life for him. If the outcome is already determined that he will be by himself for the rest of his adult life, I cannot doom him to that. That is the only reason why I would choose option A. If “lonely forever” wasn’t included in option B, I would choose that one because unattractive men find partners all of the time, especially when they’re successful. However, I will not watc…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:56 PM
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Option A because I wouldn’t want to doom my son to loneliness. Its clear that in this hypothetical the outcome is already determined. I would not want to doom my child to a life of having no companionship and watch them try over and over again, knowing that it wont work. If “lonely forever” wasn’t included, I would choose option B. He would be able to compensate for being short and unattractive in other areas, especially if he is funny and successful, but not if its already predetermined that he…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:52 PM
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I wouldn’t mind an ugly son who is successful. At least he will have something to look forward to in life, but this hypothetical is saying that he will be ugly with absolutely nothing. I can’t doom my future child to failure, even if it means being an asshole to women and dying alone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 11:49 PM

What are you talking about? I’m speaking about statistics. The records show that it’s uncommon for men to fight for custody. That’s what I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 09:34 PM

The stats actually show that when men do fight for custody, they have a chance of it being awarded to them 40%-60% of the time. The issue is that majority of men don’t which is why most women have full custody. Sounds pretty equal to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 07:43 PM

Quite frankly, the way that a man can prevent having to pay child support is to get joint custody of his children, but deadbeats wont do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 07:42 PM
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Why are you putting the singleness of men onto women? You are acting as if men play no role into why young people are getting married less. Its a two way street.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 06:31 PM
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Then you’re proving what I’m saying. All the posts on your account are not griping about dating. You have posts about a variety of things. That is all that OP talks about because its his reality. He’s the type to claim that he has a girlfriend just to not look bad, but he knows that he doesn’t. Its apparent. His feed is full of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:52 PM
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You’re intentionally being obtuse but okay. Do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:48 PM
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Did you even take a glance at that man’s account? I know that people say that we shouldn’t assume but when the context clues are that obvious, the assumptions might as well be fact. Those are not the posts or the ramblings of a desirable man. He is clearly someone who does not receive a lot of female attention, nor is he sought after romantically. He all but says this in his post history. Its not insinuating, it is fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:37 PM
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More like his delusions
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:31 PM
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No it isn’t. Where are the insults?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:31 PM
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No. The point is that we shouldn’t decide “how to dated” based off of advice from someone who is clearly speaking from a perspective that would benefit them, not us.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:30 PM
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Thank you like more people are overweight than normal weight these days, let alone those who have a 6 pack. This dude must be chronically online
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:27 PM
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Very well said
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:50 PM
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That’s just chronically online mess. Women in real life, who are actually dating, know that there is no such thing as the perfect partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 04:49 PM
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This!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:15 AM
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I’m just like that due to adhd and rejection sensitivity. I don’t know how to approach someone with confidence lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:05 PM
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This.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 03:52 AM
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That doesn’t change my experience. The more effort I put in to make it enjoyable for myself, the quicker they cum and then its over anyways. At least men have time to get what they want before a woman cums and we can do it multiple times in a row. Once a man cums, it either takes him minutes or hours for him to jump back in. I don’t want to waste time figuring out which one a man is during a meaningless hookup lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 05:48 PM
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And your point is hon? Does 3% = 0? I’m on one person, I’m less than 3%. Even your own odds are against you. Regardless, here’s me saying the same thing in another thread that’s completely unrelated to this one. https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/JH93lHY4ku You’re the second guy to challenge me on this, it’s ridiculous. You guys are so obsessed with other women liking big dicks. Is it a fetish?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:50 PM
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Why are you men so obsessed with big dicks?? Lmao I don’t even like them. I prefer small to average.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:30 PM
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I just didn’t think that it was that important or special to explain. Physical attraction matters to me on a basic level. I want to enjoy looking at the person who I have sex with and not be turned off by their appearance. So I must be physically attracted to whomever I have sex with, but I can also be physically attracted to someone and not want to have sex with them. Its not everything but it is a factor. It is definitely not enough to turn me on by itself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:09 PM
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About physical attraction?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:06 PM
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That’s only if I like to be around him. I don’t want to jump into sex immediately, train them and then realize that I can’t stand them lol. That’s why establishing some kind of emotional connection is a must.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:05 PM
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Do I have to? Why does that matter to you so much anyways? Everyone wants to be visually aroused by whomever they engage with. The reasons should be self explanatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:04 PM
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Exactly. So a one night stand or a random hookup just isn’t worth it, from my perspective, because more than likely, I’ll just spend most of the time teaching him how to touch me and for what? I won’t see them again or much at all afterwards anyways. Its only worth the time if there’s a connection beyond when it comes to men because usually the sex is not fulfilling with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:58 PM
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Physical attraction is important but it does play a smaller role than an emotional attraction. Mainly as in, I don’t care how attractive a man is, I’m not having sex with him until I get to know him well enough. There’s no one night stands for me because attractiveness doesn’t mean that he will be worth having sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:55 PM
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Tbh sex with men has a much higher chance of not being pleasurable and fulfilling. Most men just don’t know what they’re doing or they finish so fast that whatever they could have done is gone. I had a fwb once who I knew that I would never want to be in a relationship with, so its not always about ending up with that person. There was still an emotional connection due to the friendship and that made the sex better.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:50 PM
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Yes it’s a must for me. Sex doesn’t feel as fulfilling or as worth it without an emotional connection, especially since it’s really hard to get me off. So having sex with a random person has less of a chance of being actually enjoyable and more of a chance of just being a total waste of time. At least if the sex is lackluster with someone that I have a genuine connection with, there is still the benefit of us growing closer through the intimacy that sex provides.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:44 PM
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Do you desperately want your child to be bullied?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 11:52 PM

You’re speaking about healthy relationships and boundaries. People in this sub don’t know much about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 11:50 PM
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You think that people see retail work as the same physicality as construction work?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 11:14 PM
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It doesn’t matter whats objectively true. No one sees retail workers as laborers. Like she said, either you earn a lot or your job has to be traditionally masculine. Retail work is not seen as either. That’s not me saying that I agree with her point though. I don’t have an opinion either way but she said does make logical sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/25 06:50 PM
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Paragraphs 2&1 (I answered out of order by accident): The origin of all gender dynamics originated from gender inequality. That is common knowledge. It doesn't change that it does have an impact on mindset and how we approach dating even today. I’m still earning my college degree. A lot of the time, I can’t afford to go out. I make this clear and men have no problem with it. Most don’t even understand why I brought it up because they know that I’m a college student and if they had a problem with…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 04:14 AM
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Jump to whatever conclusions that you want to. There is a culture around dating in every society. In mine, I have heard men say consistently that they do not pay for the date if they know that they are not interested in seeing the woman again. I have never answered no to splitting the bill. I allow the man to answer. So he does not know whether I desire to pay for the date or not. The choice is up to him. Regardless, it is not that I don’t empathize with him. I have never chosen or recommended a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 03:18 AM
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It will be my biggest regret that I didn’t make it to this thread sooner to see what the person who you’re replying to was saying 😂. Seems like they were saying some very off the wall things.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 01:22 AM
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This. People will share everything about themselves and their lives and then have a shocked pikachu face when they have to hear opinions on it. If you aren’t prepared for judgement, whether positive or negative, then keep it to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 01:20 AM
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Honestly I have no problem with men having preferences, even if its for a specific type of woman that it isnt common or way out of their league. Its none of my business tbh or rather, its not supposed to be. However, men like that think that they need to tell the women all about what they expect and they want us to conform. Then they constantly whine, complain and insult women who don’t. Their rage and anger over not finding that type of woman is what I don’t like. If their expectations are unre…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/25 01:18 AM
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This is a good theory because you’re right. Stigma against every gender and sexuality is higher when it involves a penis. It explains why the people who catch the less shit for what they do sexuality are straight men and lesbians. I’ve been pondering this for awhile but I could never put it into words
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 11:55 PM
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What does the patriarchy have to do with causal sex with an attractive man??
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:11 PM
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I mean for casual sex physical and sexual attraction are all that matters. I have never heard a woman say that they lower their physical standards for that. The disconnect is that men think that all women’s physical standards are the same and that we all define super attractive men with the same traits. Therefore, they imagine that we’re hooking up with tall “Chads” only. That isn’t true for all women. A man who meets my physical standards is not a male model.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 09:10 PM
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Yeah this would work better. I’ve been on plenty of casual dates
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 08:17 PM
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Yeah. I wouldn’t really be interested in a man who orders separate checks after the first date. I would take it as a sign of disinterest and maybe he doesn’t really see me as worthy of effort. I wouldn’t continue to waste his time
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 08:16 PM
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Thank you! No you wont get anything beyond friendship because you’re FRIENDS. My male friends get treated the same way as my female friends
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:02 AM
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Oh well? You should use common sense to recognize that if what I’m saying doesn’t apply to you then its not about you. That also doesn’t change that I said to be cautious, not totally avoid. I will continue to say that everyone should be cautious AKA very aware when dating someone who has more power than they do. My example was my own life. When I was a broke college student, I was approached by men who tried to take advantage of the fact that they made more than me. Grow up and realize that peo…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 03:04 AM
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I have never told but one man this. Most of us will not go out of our way to lie just to stroke a man’s ego, especially if we want to continue having sex with them. If we tell them that they’re the best when they aren’t, then they wont improve and sex will continue to suck with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 09:10 PM
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Dude satisfying sex does not equal quantity. Satisfying literally equates to quality. Yes its true that I can walk outside and get as much as sex as I want, but getting satisfying sex is much harder for women. No matter how attractive a man is or how many men we attract, if the boat can’t be rocked properly then the sex is not satisfying. The real reason why women engage in casual sex less is because it usually doesn’t amount anything memorable. If you wait to have sex with a man that you have a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 09:08 PM
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I feel like everyone is projecting their own situation onto what I’m saying and ignoring the part where I said, in many words, that the suspiciousness lies in the circumstances. If your situation wasn’t suspicious then good. It doesn’t change that everyone should approach with cautiousness at first, just in case their partner is the type to take advantage of the power imbalance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 07:02 PM
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Thank you for actually understanding what I’m saying
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:59 PM
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my ex made no money as she was finishing her master’s degree Did you even try to read what I said beyond the first sentence or can you just not read at all? If you can, then define what the word “cautious” means, since apparently you need a reminder, and re-read this sentence “This especially true if couldn’t care less if you advance your situation or not” If you were dating someone who was earning her master’s degree then that means that you weren’t trying to stop or discourage her from advanci…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:09 PM
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It’s easier to be yourself around someone who you see as a friend because you aren’t trying to impress them in a romantic way. Making friends is a lot easier than finding a romantic partner because the standards and expectations are lower. So, being yourself around a guy who you have no interest is less nerve-wracking and comes with a lower risk because you are not worried as much about how they perceive you. Specifically if they perceive you as attractive/relationship material. With the guy who…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 03:26 AM
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This! As someone who was a broke college student and dated affluent men, it is a massive red flag. Quite frankly everyone, male or female, needs to be cautious when pursued by someone who makes significantly more money than them. This is especially true if that person couldn’t care less if you advance your situation or not. Them being content with you not building a career or finding your own success in life could equal that they enjoy the power imbalance and want to it stay that way. Its very s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 02:18 AM
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Yes, all of that is your life. If you want to make a comment about all of this, you should, but don’t reply to me with it. None of this applies to what I said.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:16 PM
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First paragraph (It was just two sentences, but it’s easier to call it a paragraph for a categorization purposes): That’s why I responded to that person and clarified myself. That’s nothing else I can do beyond that. I also don’t like assumptions being made about what I mean just because of what others mean. If he was skeptical, he could asked instead of putting what everyone else believes on me. Second paragraph: Any person, who would see their partner mourning or going through something that s…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:12 PM
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I can’t do anything about that double standard besides not perpetuate it myself, which I haven’t. I can’t speak for others or society if I’m not apart of the problem that you’re talking about. If you have a problem with my verbiage, that’s okay but I explained what I meant. I can’t handle someone who defaults to crying often. If someone describes themselves as the kind of person who cries at everything, I can’t do it. For example, someone who cries during every disagreement, confrontation or dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:53 PM
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“One who expresses how they feel” “Etc” = the other aspects of vulnerability not listed and vulnerability also includes the ones listed as well. You classifying those things are transparency doesn’t mean that thats all they are. It’s very vulnerable for many people to open up about their background and especially their traumas. Its a risk to share those details with others AKA vulnerable. Sharing them could also lead to involuntary an emotional response while getting it all out. Your idea that i…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 05:50 AM
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I mean I just explained how I was able to get over it. If a woman wants a stoic man and is in no way attracted to men who show sad emotions, then she will not desire a man who is vulnerable regardless. What I’m talking about are women who desire vulnerable men, but become uncomfortable or weirded out when they see it. Usually that reaction is involuntary but it comes from somewhere and you can talk yourself through feeling that way with self reflection. If you come to realize that the problem is…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 03:19 AM
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This was very well written
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 11:10 PM
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No problem. I think that both genders are very unfair to each other at times and in this instance, women as a whole can be overly harsh in their reaction to male vulnerability. It requires a lot us to look inwards to work on that instead of looking outwards and blaming the man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:58 PM
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Lol imagine a man demanding his partner only “cry when it’s appropriate” Was that supposed to be a gotcha? By appropriate, I meant someone who doesn’t cry over everything little thing, where it becomes a habit instead of an unexpected reaction to whatever they’re feeling. I’m not much of a crier. I can count on one hand how many times I cried last year easily because it’s just not something that I do often. I’m very expressive about my feelings and I convey emotion easily, so I’m not stoic, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:51 PM
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I don’t want a man who cries over everything. That would drive me insane. But one who expresses how they feel? Tells me about their background, familial history, traumas, cries when it’s appropriate, etc? That’s the level of vulnerability that I’m looking for. Now it is true that a lot of women romanticize vulnerability because we’ve all dated and encountered men who were the opposite. That lack of exposure to genuine vulnerability from males creates an ideal image of what it looks like and of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 06:51 PM
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Nah not for me. Big dicks hurt and cause cramping for me. I prefer small to average.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 02:50 AM
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I’m guessing it is not. This is what I believe that he was trying to say: “To answer your question, maybe because they are right. With your logic, I shouldn’t complain about my girlfriend cheating on me if her justification is that she only did so because I did not buy her enough flowers. Even though, from my point of view, I stopped buying her more flowers because I felt like I had already bought her a good enough amount.” I honestly have no idea where he was going with that but I think that’s …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 08:06 AM
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What person who is content in their life complains about it and others?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 08:00 AM
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They don’t have to do anything, but be genuinely content in their decision(s). So many of the men that you’re describing claim to be happy as single, childless individuals, but then they post bitter, angry content that’s the contrary. Be genuinely happy and stop spreading negativity if you’re content with yourself. That’s my advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 08:00 AM

Then its all in your head. If you have success then you’re just upset that you aren’t “Chad” in your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:40 AM

For a group of men who claim to be so unwanted, you sure seem to think that you have a lot of bargaining power. Don’t be committed if you don’t want to be. No one is asking men to be with women that they don’t want to be with.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 06:32 AM
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I don’t mind explaining. I would’ve explained in my original comment, but it was already long enough lol and I didn’t want to write too much lol. I’m long winded, I’m sorry. I should have put confidence in quotation marks because a lot of it was display only. The confidence that he displayed was opposite of what I was used to. It wasn’t in physical confrontations. I was never around when he got into fights, so that didn’t create that perception. The last two things that you listed were how he ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:23 PM

Dude what? Has common sense eluded you? Sex workers can be of any gender, first of all, and um they’re fucking sex workers. They choose to make their bodies a commodity, but they didn’t come out of the womb that way. Our bodies are not inherently commodities or trophies just because other women choose to sell theirs. Also, I’m going to say this again, sex workers come in all genders. Your whole logic falls flat when you factor that in. Any gender can successfully engage in sex work if they are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 12:24 PM
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A lot of attraction, especially sexual attraction doesn’t make sense. Logically, I wasn’t attracted to bad boys and avoided them. I couldn’t understand women who were. It wasn’t until I had to spend time around one that I understood what the appeal was. He wasn’t the type to harm or rob innocent people like you’re thinking, but he did have gun charges in the past and there were signs that he wasn’t living a straight and narrow life. If I saw him on a dating app, I would have swiped left. However…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 09:14 AM
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I dated a guy who had a criminal past very briefly when I was younger and he wasn’t a bully. He was just all of the traits listed and more. For young women who aren’t thinking about the future, the excitement that those traits being is enticing. There’s no “rewarding” because a woman’s body and time isn’t a trophy. I dated that guy because I wanted to. I came to my sense relatively quickly that he was not someone that I wanted to tie myself to, but it was a fun time. Unfortunately, a lot of regu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:55 AM
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This. I learned my lesson when I dated one “bad boy” very briefly, but I won’t lie that he was incredibly exciting. He was confident, funny, unabashed, assertive, quick to defend me, and very arousing. To this day, he gave me the best sex that I’ve ever had. However, every “positive” was a cover for something negative. I’m still in my early 20s but I’m ready for something serious and he was not the right guy for that at all. Admittedly, most of the men who are ready to settle down are boring, bu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 08:49 AM
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Yeah I haven’t heard of it. What does it stand for?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:23 PM
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Can you provide the studies?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:26 PM
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Interesting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:54 PM
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Checking out of the relationship is not a woman thing, its a human thing. Men and women alike do this before they’re ready to just rip the bandaid off and that’s because it hurts. If you check out, there’s a possibility, even if its microscopic, that this person that you’ve put a lot into will change and make you fall for them again. There’s also people who just have problems with letting go, even if they should. You also have to assess if you are in the position to end the relationship. There c…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 07:15 AM
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I’ll up the stakes a little: What if she had an OnlyFans in the past, but it didn’t really go anywhere? Would that make a difference? (I’m drawing from a situation that I’ve seen IRL)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:30 AM
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That’s fair. So if you meet a woman who can’t keep her hands of you, but she had a lot of sexual partners in the past, it wouldn’t matter? What if her sexual partners weren’t Chads but just regular looking dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:27 AM
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I never said that men are the only ones who slut shame. I mentioned the men here, but there is a reason why I said that we’re taught to view sex a certain way and I didn’t specify what gender is teaching it. Straight women are slut shamed by everyone. We can’t catch a break from our own gender or the opposite. The second paragraph is just more of what I said. However, I have noticed that promiscuous women still do find LTRs, but that doesn’t change what we’re taught. If straight women are told t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:23 AM
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You could try therapy instead. I don’t mean that as a jab. Therapy would genuinely be very helpful in breaking down why you have ended up in such a negative place. You will never be able to distance yourself from your pain. You must heal it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:15 AM
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No. Your date being wary of you and your intentions at first doesn’t mean that you will never attract anyone or that your date will immediately check out of the courtship. Just show that you aren’t a shitty person and other circumstances led to you being “bitchless” at 32 or that you’ve used this time to grow as a person. Also approach or match with those who have a high likelihood of being equally attracted to you. Don’t aim too high.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 04:52 AM
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Yeah I would wonder if that’s the case
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 04:42 AM
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This sub complains a lot about women with high body counts. So which is it? Do you want straight women to have more casual sex before settling down or do you want them to be virgins when you meet them?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:45 AM
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Wtf are you talking about? How does that have anything to do with the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:44 AM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:43 AM
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Lesbians have more casual sex as well. Its not just the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:43 AM
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I’ve been saying this lol but every time I do, a bunch of men tell me I’m wrong. A man will overlook a high body count or even a super wild past if you show devotion to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:41 AM
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I’ve been saying this lol but every time I do, a bunch of men tell me I’m wrong. A man will overlook a high body count or even a super wild past if you show devotion to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:41 AM
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Homosexuals put a lot less emphasis on caring about promiscuity than heterosexuals. In this sub alone, every other post are men complaining about not wanting women with high body counts (As if anyone is forcing them to) and constantly talking about how they want their wives to be “pure”, virgins, etc. Of course when one gender is encouraged to be picky about who they sex with or else potentially face judgement from the opposite gender, the rate of casual sex will be lower than with other sexuali…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 03:39 AM
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Women do not lash out about that nearly as much or as badly as men. There’s a reason that femcel shooters are exceptionally rare, while incel shooters have their own wikipedia page.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 10:48 PM
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If that explanation makes sense, such as I can see that you’re a bit awkward or shy, I wouldn’t hold it against you. It’s not a dealbreaker for me, but I would be worried that if we were to get into a relationship, it would be hard for you to your thinking from being single (Carefree, only accommodating yourself, centering your own feelings) to being in a relationship. I would also worry that with you having so little experience, I wouldn’t be enough once you get a taste of being in a relationsh…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 02:04 PM
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You lost me at body count matters. However, a lot of Red Pillers are disturbed and need therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:30 PM
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My bad dude, I read your comment wrong lol. I thought that you were disagreeing with the commenter
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:28 PM
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Because that’s the typical age that people have been out of the house, held down a job, maybe moved from their hometown etc. If they haven’t been in a relationship by then, I would wonder whats held them back. Why haven’t women been interested in them and why havent they been interested in women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:27 PM

We don’t try to hide that attraction matters, its just that when we bring it up thats all that men hear. For a lot of women attraction and personality are important. However, the moment that we mention the physical features that we prefer, even if they’re expendable, we’re called shallow and the rest of what we say is not important. For example, women who prefer men over 6 feet, are treated like they are the devil, even if they would still be willing to date men under that height. You cannot eve…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:25 PM
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25
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:19 PM
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What do you define as decent
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:18 PM
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So then OP’s post is false. Men only like effort from women who are attractive to them as well. You just disproved him entire argument that men and women are somehow different in that regard. You people really cannot stick to one thought process can you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:14 PM
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Thank you! What a hypocrite this guy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:12 PM
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Isn’t that what this entire post is doing, but with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:11 PM
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You must not get out much if you have never seen this in real life. “Thin air” is hilarious lol. My mom was never one of those women, but I have seen my friend’s parents in this exact dynamic. The mother putting in so much effort while the father is just a potato.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:08 PM
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Lmao this was funny to read. I have went from finding average men mildly attractive o wildly attractive because of how much effort they put into courting me. The opposite has happened with super attractive men who put in little effort. Now if someone is butt ugly, then yeah no amount of effort will make me attracted to them, but someone who looks average always has a chance. Are you talking about effort in the context of the talking stage or “We’re friends, but I want to date you, so I’m going t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 01:06 PM
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Why are you still responding at all??? He just told you that he was aiming to destroy your self worth and make you grovel to him. What is the purpose of keeping any contact with someone so despicable? The fact that you’re entertaining him at all anymore is giving him validation that his tactics worked in the long run and that you’ll come back eventually. There should be no relationship anymore. There should be no weekly responses. What are you still holding on for?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/25 12:59 PM
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What exactly are you talking about
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:57 PM
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Yes. Exactly.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:56 PM

Okay. If you think that your girl will mess around on you with her celebrity crush, then don’t be with her. I really don’t care if you believe that I would cheat on my partner with a celebrity. You sound like a teenager anyways, especially with how you’re putting so much emphasis and weight on stories that you’ve heard, but have never witnessed yourself. You don’t even know if the women were in relationships or not in those stories. They could have been single, which makes it perfectly okay if t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:23 AM

Are we talking about actual celebrities or influencers and small artists? Because I definitely could not just DM Iwan Rheon and get a date immediately. Regardless, I already said that if they’re attainable then you shouldn’t fantasize about them and if your girlfriend is DMing other men, celebrity or not, then celebrity crushes are not the problem here. She’s just a cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:19 AM
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And those kinds of men don’t just equal those with boring pasts. The post is about reformed players for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:15 AM
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Literally what I’m trying to figure out. Idk what he’s talking about lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 10:10 AM
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I don’t need to say those words in any relationship. Do you think that I start off every courtship with that sentence? I know that trust is earned. If we’ve gotten to the point of even thinking about marriage, then we should have already gotten to that point. If someone thinks differently, which most people don’t, then I have no problem with them not wanting to commit to me. That is mentally unhealed person. So, its not an ultimatum. It’s a standard. Hon, you’re virtually sighing. Say that last …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:54 AM
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I didn’t say that they acted that way before cheating. Once again, try to comprehend what I’m saying. I’m saying that they act that way when they are cheating. The signs are always there if you don’t ignore them. The reason why I keep emphasizing that I wont remain in a relationship with someone like you or OP is to highlight that your comment is pointless. My entire post was to answer OP’s question. Not to receive justifications for his mindset or yours. I already get it. Don’t trust anyone, es…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:39 AM
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Stop misusing the word gaslighting. Nothing was misunderstood. I stated that if he sees me like a cheater, like other women who have cheated since you mentioned that women who look faithful still cheat, then I won’t stick around. I’ve already said multiple times and I’ll say it again. I do not want to be in a relationship with someone who thinks like you or OP. Cheating is a very thing and if I am acting untrustworthy, my partner would have every right to question me. However, if I haven’t given…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 09:23 AM
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It doesn’t matter if your feelings are hurt, he’s entitled to a test. Did you read the last part of my comment or are you incapable of understanding simple words? I explicitly stated that I won’t stop him from getting the test, but he will no longer be my husband. I don’t feel entitlement to anything. I will not force a man or anyone to see me as faithful if they don’t want to. If he sees me as a cheater, then I’ll just do what so called cheaters should do and leave. I’m not entitled to him trus…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 08:24 AM

What world are you living in? You think that regular women are walking down the street and Cillian Murphy is just standing there, ready for them to join him in his limousine? How old are you to think this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:47 AM

If your gf works with celebrities then obviously they are attainable and thats when it becomes a problem. Now if she is a regular person and she’s motivated enough to somehow make her way into hollywood and infiltrate a celeb’s circle just to sleep with him then I have news for ya, bud: She was already cheating on you. It was never just fantasies for her with anyone. That’s obviously not the kind of person that I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:40 AM
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Those are auto generated or pre-made avatars I believe
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:10 AM
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I’ve never encountered a slut who intentionally sought out men without a wild past.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:09 AM
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It depends a lot of the personality. If they slept around but they don’t give me the vibe of a player, then I don’t mind. Sleeping around in this context means that they just had a lot of sexual partners due to opportunity, low self esteem, thinking that it would lead to more when it didn’t, and just being young. If they did that, but seem like they’ve put that behind them and genuinely try to connect with me, then it’s not a problem. If they slept around and have the vibes of a player, such as …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 07:07 AM
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Unless he gave me reasons to suspect something, such as acting deceitful (I already went over in another comment), no. I would never check just because.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:54 AM

Lmaoooo there’s nothing wrong with that 🤣. They are good looking men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 06:52 AM

Ooo he’s another cutie
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 04:15 AM
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Oh well? What do you want me to do about that? Personally, if I know that I haven’t been unfaithful or breaking the boundaries of our relationship, then I wont stand for being accused. In the scenario that I made up even if I wasn’t cheating, I would still be acting inappropriately for a married woman. That would be grounds for mistrust and questions. If I’m acting like the same woman that he married and my husband can’t even give me an example of inappropriate behavior, but he still wants a DNA…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:50 AM

Ayyye 😂 finally someone else who gets it. I’m usually the only one
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:38 AM
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Then face the repercussions of being dishonest. If you know that your actions would be unacceptable to your partner, so you go behind their back to do it anyways, you’re the liar and deceiver that you think that she is. I would never deceive my husband, but you people would deceive your wives. Take a look at yourselves before being suspicious of others. You’ll find a whole lot of projection.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:37 AM
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You misunderstand. I would be upset if my husband didn’t trust me for no reason, which is what this post is saying. The post makes it explicitly clear that the question is “Would you be OK with your husband wanting a paternity test just because?”, not wanting a DNA test because I have given him reasons to suspect that I haven’t been faithful. An example would be if I were suspiciously close with another male that wasn’t a long term friend or relative. I’m texting him all hours of the night, dele…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 03:31 AM
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What does that have to do with me and my future marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:23 AM
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That’s awful. However, I’m not one of those women and I would never do that. If my husband can’t see that after he’s married and impregnated me, then I don’t want to have anymore children or continue the relationship with him. He should see me as separate from those other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/25 01:09 AM

Assumptions. Have whatever opinion you want. Maybe you’ll meet someone who is just as sensitive in relationships as you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:45 PM
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That’s because you think that all women think alike. Its not a double standard if the person whose comment that you’re reading doesn’t hold that standard at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:44 PM
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Not you again. Why do you keep asking me about things that I don’t do or believe, just because other women do? I would never go through my husband’s phone to make sure of anything. I would only do that if he gave me signs that he was cheating AKA I don’t trust him. So, if my husband asked me for a DNA test, I would know that he doesn’t trust me and thinks that I have cheated on him. The principle is: I don’t trust you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:35 PM
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Lmao I love this comment. It really highlights the absurdity of how posts like this try to act like they’re saying anything else besides “I need this test because I’m worried that you cheated on me.” Literally what other way could the child not be his lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:24 PM

Was that supposed to be a zing 😂 we’re both on Reddit If you consider celebrity crushes “emotional cheating”, then good for you. I couldn’t imagine being so fragile, but you do you. Do you also get this upset if your partner watches porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:20 PM

If Aaron Taylor Johnson popped up and asked me on a date, I would be flattered af. Would I throw away my entire relationship with someone, who I know loves and cares about me, for a celebrity who I just find super sexy? Hell no. Only someone who’s already inclined to cheat would do that. I didn’t say attainable = less harmful. I spent majority of my comment saying the opposite actually. I wouldn’t flip a switch. The crush would still be there and I would tell everyone that I know that Aaron Tayl…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 11:17 PM

What do you want me to do about it? Don’t date women with that double standard then.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:56 PM
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You’ll keep the option open to become the liar that you’re worried that she is?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:55 PM
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I wouldn’t want either. One is being sneaky and the other is accusing me of being sneaky. Both are unappealing and not worth remaining married to. Luckily, those are not the only two options out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:54 PM
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Yeah I’ve cracked the code lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:53 PM

You misunderstand my use of attainable. Attainability and fantasy matter because without it, the fantasy could become much more than it is. A celebrity being attainable makes the crush harmless, not just because the opportunity isn’t there, but also because the person who has the crush knows that. So, they aren’t thinking about leaving their partner for them or the extremes that you people are going to. They just think that they’re hot, like reading a novel about a spicy character. There’s no “w…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:52 PM
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I’m starting to understand why you made this post. Your trust issues with women and paternity fraud stem from the fact that you yourself are very sneaky, deceitful and untrustworthy. You just detailed exactly how you would do it and you see no problem with it. You see no problem with lying and going behind your partner’s back if it is justified in your eyes. Therefore, you think that everyone else is the same. This post was pure projection. I’m even more certain that I would not remain with a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:42 PM
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Why not involve yourself with a woman who agrees with your reasoning? Why lie and go behind the back of a woman who doesn’t? When you enter into a relationship, be upfront about your worldview before it gets too serious and settle down with a woman who thinks the same or understands and accepts your views. Why not do that instead of lying to a woman who doesn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:37 PM

Am I all women? Why are you telling me what “women” say? Idc about that. I’m just a woman and one who doesn’t care if her man is lusting over IG models. I lust over them too. They’re hot, who wouldn’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:32 PM
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Asking a question about something that I never said is a choice. I said that he would lie to me and go behind my back. The same thing that he’s worried that I have done. The severity of either action doesn’t negate that they both involve breaking trust within the relationship. What I said still stands, he would be lying to me like he is afraid that I am to him. Everything comes to light one way or another, so I would find out and the ramifications would remain the same just with even more hurt. …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 10:28 PM
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So then he would become the liar that he’s afraid I am.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:58 PM
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To answer your question, no I do not. I see it two ways: If he trusts me, but still wants a DNA test then I would regret having a child by a man like him. Either he is paranoid, not genuinely trusting of anyone no matter who it is, and/or watches a lot of manosphere content and participates in that sphere of the internet. To me, that would explain why he needs proof despite me not showing any signs of unfaithfulness. I would not want to marry, let alone have a child by a man like that. I would q…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 09:48 PM

Having a celeb crush doesn’t mean that you’ll actually cheat on them. It just means that they’re hot and you can see it. If anyone with a celebrity crush, thought to themselves “I would ruin my real life relationship for this person who I don’t know”, then that’s a typical celebrity crush. That’s an obsession and unhealthy. A normal celebrity crush is just fantasy and you’re well aware that that’s all it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:29 PM

Unless your partner regularly works or interacts with celebrities, I don’t see why they would worry or even care if you would have sex with a celebrity crush. For 99% of us, that is not an option lol. It’s really no different than crushing on a fictional character. The opportunity will never happen anyways and 99% of people who crush on celebs know this. Its just a fantasy. You’re not very secure in yourself if you’re threatened by an unattainable celebrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:15 PM

Yes this. You explained it well lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:10 PM

Agreed lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:10 PM

Dude you can live in a fairy tale if you want to, but majority of people fantasize about others while in a relationship, especially celebrities or fictional characters. Now I think that fantasizing about people in real life that you could actually have a shot with, is a slippery slope that should be avoided as much as possible because it could lead to actual infidelity, but celebrities? They’re just people on screens. There’s no harm that could come with fantasizing about them, if you’re a norma…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:09 PM

Eh that’s a bit of a childish view to me. Its a celebrity, not your coworker or maintenance man or anyone that you could actually attainable. Its no different than lusting over a fictional character in a movie or a novel. A celebrity is no real threat. Its unfair to expect your partner to not be attracted to anyone else just because they’re in a relationship with you, especially a person on a screen who they will never get to meet. I guess it just comes down to security
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 08:03 PM

I have many celebrity crushes. My main ones right now are Aaron Taylor Johnson, Jensen Ackles, and Bill Skarsgård. If any of those three asked me out, would I extremely flattered and tell the story to everyone? Hell yes. Would I leave my partner over them? Hell no. Celebrities are just a fantasy. Its all about just finding them attractive. Any woman who actually wants to be in a relationship with them, as in she thinks that’s a possibility and would throw everything for them, is a fanatic. A lit…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 07:57 PM

Sorry, I was in a rush and didn’t have time to elaborate. I believe that legally requiring a man, who is not the biological father to pay child support is bullshit. I oppose it heavily. The reason why is because whether the man was a victim of paternity fraud or knew that the child was not biologically his, but still chose to stick around, his involvement in the child’s life should always be a choice. Legally making him responsible for a child that he did not biologically create is ludicrous, un…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 05:38 AM

I don’t like them personally lol. If a guy is standoffish, I keep my distance or lose interest. I find it attractive when a man is able to socialize and make friends wherever he goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 03:30 AM

I don’t agree at all. Its bullshit to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 02:54 AM
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Not having standards is how people end up dating awful individuals who hurt them or waste their time. There are so many women who don’t have any standards at all. They will date men in jail, those who are deadbeats, unemployed, have criminal records or nothing to their name, no home (renting or buying) and no vehicle, etc all because they had chemistry with the person and then act surprised when the relationship doesn’t work. Chemistry is not everything. You need to have some kind of standards t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 02:52 AM
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Just someone who makes the same amount or more than me. I can’t settle for less because starting a family is very expensive. I don’t want it mainly fall on me if I become serious with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/25 02:39 AM
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I downloaded Tinder when I was 19 and I got over 500 likes in like 3 hours. I met my first bf up there actually lol. Now, a few years later and a few more dating apps, I’ve been on tonssss of dates talked to a lot of different people, made friends, met some creeps, encountered a dude who is still obsessed with me to this day, encountered unicorn hunters (Yuck), met my 2nd ex who flew me out to Germany, and now I’m currently dating a guy who I met on Hinge. Its been a rollercoaster lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/25 04:45 AM

Your rigid and earnest use of the term “high value men” throughout your post reminded me of the type of person that I’m arguing with and that I couldn’t care less to actually. There’s no point in going back and forth with someone so deep in that ideology. I’m no longer engaging. Take care or don’t, idc.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:46 PM

You mean men with a lot of money that enables them with the option to date any woman that they want? They also don’t enter into relationships with or marry virgins often. Stay in your miserable reality and cry harder.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 08:33 AM
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Yes tf I would say the same thing if the genders were reversed. When I first commented on this story, I said nothing about him possibly saying something that was genuinely offensive. I didn’t start wondering until I read his comments. Something that I already said. It’s like you’re immune to comprehending or understanding anything if it doesn’t align with your aching need to be the victim. If he hated single moms for no reason, I would call him immature and in need of therapy. If he said misogyn…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 06:22 AM
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Hon do you know what wondering means? I didn’t say that he was for sure saying messed up about single moms, I wonder if it could be a possibility. So yeah it could possibility be that she was just being crazy or he could have said some unnecessary things. No one mentioned misogyny. Don’t put words in my mouth just because you want to be angry about something.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 05:50 AM
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The experiences of strangers or statistics doesn’t concern me. Everywhere that I look young women are in relationships and so are young men. 1/3 of men in a study or women complaining online does not represent the entire world. Quite frankly, anyone who views the human experience through the lens of statistics is terminally online. However, if a young man wants a virgin then good for him. I just haven’t encountered men like that
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 03:39 AM
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Obviously I’m wondering because of her strong reaction and the comments that he’s left about single moms. Stop automatically jumping to victimhood
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/25 02:30 AM
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Where did she even do that? It sounds like she just got mad at him, not make a declaration for all women on our behalf lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 09:05 PM
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Are you being ironic?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:16 PM
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…and regular women don’t do that either. What you described would be the actions of a pathological, manipulative and wicked person. There are some women who would do that to a divorced stepdad. Not majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:15 PM
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He must have deleted his rage response lol. Typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:11 PM
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I find it funny that he directed this question to all women instead of the actual woman that he’s complaining about. Why is he asking us to explain her reaction
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:09 PM
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Women are the big scary boogeyman huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:07 PM
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He didn’t even say 20 women. He said the 20th time with women in his life. It could be the same few women lol. That means nothing. I have had men jump down my throat about how I want a man who makes more money than me. It doesn’t mean that they represent all men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:06 PM
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Did you read nothing but the last two sentences? Where did a bunch of women brow beat you? It was literally one roommate. Do you see her as multiple people lol? You literally have just as much of a choice as I do. One person being offended by what you said doesn’t mean that you don’t. Your roommates disapproval has no bearing on your sex life or how you let her disapproval affect you. Stop with the victim mentality lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 08:02 PM
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You’re talking out of your ass now lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:58 PM
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I don’t stand for single mother bashing at all. Its one thing to not want to date them and its another to trash them for no reason. I wonder if that’s actually what OP was doing lol
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:58 PM
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It’s not widespread. Single mothers don’t even struggle with finding partners where I’m from, so there’s no reason to shame anyone into dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:56 PM
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Women don’t think this. I don’t agree with men who bash single moms for no reason and try to make them feel like they’re lesser than, but most women don’t think that men are obligated to date anyone. It sounds like your roommate has her personal reasons for why she feels that way. Why don’t you ask her this instead of us? She’s the one who said this to you. Personally, I wouldn’t date a single dad either. I don’t want kids right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 07:54 PM
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How sensitive are you to think that I’m mad? It’s clear that you’re one of those people who has to think that you’re so superior to others and anyone who disagrees with you is an idiot or has “stupid logic”. Pathetic. You live to make people mad, don’t you? Its the only emotion that you can arise out of people because other than that, you are invisible. Your attempt at making a “single woman with cats” jab was stale and boring, much like yourself. I won’t humor you with responses anymore, so enj…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 11:10 PM
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There’s nothing wrong with any of that at all. Wealthy men do tend to partner with other wealthy and ambitious women. Physically fit people are often with other physically fit people and the average height difference between couples is not astronomical. A lot of tough men aka the protector type also pair up with tough women. See how you can eat a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 10:55 PM
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Nor do they really care because I have yet to meet a virgin, who is past their teen years, in a relationship. The women who I know, who are married or committed, were not virgins before they met their partners. Not being a virgin has never stopped me from getting into a relationship either.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:45 PM
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I don’t know tbh. I don’t have the answer. I just know that signing a consent form or having to say “I consent” on camera would be a mood killer and I would know that thats something that I would not want to do before every intimate moment. If someone is that paranoid then maybe they should refrain from having sex or look for signs that a woman is pathological before having sex with her. That’s all I can think of that wont result in the woman just leaving.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:33 AM
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It would still be concerning and just massively uncomfortable. I wouldn’t be able to shake the shadiness of how it feels, even if I knew his story and thought that he was a good guy. I wouldn’t be able to just go into “horny mode” without thinking about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:20 AM
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We would not be having sex. It would be too much of a mood killer and just plain weird. Even if you say that in this scenario, I’m 100% certain that he doesn’t have ulterior motives, I still wouldn’t want to involve with myself who requires that before sex. All I would think is “Am I going to have to sign this before every intimate moment?” and just the thought of that would make me uncomfortable. Then whatever sexual tension we’ve built would just dissipate. If I did sign it and proceed to sex,…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/25 04:15 AM
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That explains why ran through men have multiple kids with multiple women, cheat on their partners frequently, struggle with commit and try to settle down in their 50s? Someone who lacks sexual discipline is the same, regardless of gender, whether you want to accept it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:39 AM
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You expect a virgin while lacking the discipline to be one yourself? Lol. Don’t expect what you can’t provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:37 AM
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If its something that mattered to majority of them, it would have more of an impact. None of the women that I know would be married or in relationships. They are because most men don’t care.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 08:36 AM

I could be if there’s no feelings involved but that more than likely wouldn’t be the case. I don’t have sex without some kind of feelings for the person. That’s why I don’t have sex with my friends lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:31 AM

I didn’t say that it would compromise the friendship. I’m saying that it’s not necessary for there to be a friendship and its not wrong to not be attracted to your friends. This guy was acting like it was a big deal
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:30 AM
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Lmao sure. That’s why women who aren’t virgins are married and in relationships right? In both of my past relationships, I never hid that I wasn’t a virgin. Neither have the women around me who are in relationships. 100% of the time, my ass lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 11:20 PM
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The guy that I’m dating right now is an accountant and he never complains about his job lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 10:21 PM

First, I never said that anything couldn’t be applied to women. I spoke specifically about men because that’s who I’ve experienced this from, but it could be any gender variation. Second, I directly said in the comment that you’re replying to that I would never fault someone for developing attraction or telling me that they have. I said it more than once. The friendship doesn’t feel genuine only after they drop me for not reciprocating. That’s when I question if their intentions were really abou…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:43 PM

I literally explained it. You just didn’t like my explanation. That doesn’t change that it was explained. I’m not going to say that I can’t do something that I already did. Its okay if you just say that you don’t understand or don’t want to. Yeah I’m one of those women who seldomly develops feelings for my friends. I don’t see a problem with it if someone does, but it depends on how its handled.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 09:36 PM

I don’t know why you’re debating with me about my personal experience. I’ve never befriended a guy because I wanted to date them and if I ever did develop attraction, then I would look for signs that they feel the same. If I don’t see them, then I don’t let the crush go too far. I just forget about it. That’s why I don’t fall for my friends. I answered the question that was asked from my perspective. There’s nothing to argue about here.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:26 PM

I’m not sure where you got random people from. The post is asking why women don’t fall for their friends. Therefore, a “friendship vibe” within a friendship means exactly what it says. If they never flirt with me or give any other kind of vibe besides friendship, then that’s what I’ll accept. I wont kid myself into thinking that there could be a possibility of us becoming more if they’re not giving me any signals. So with my friends, I don’t even go there mentally.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:16 PM

What are you confused about? What does each word mean to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:03 PM

You literally have asked me this before under another post. I’ve already answered. Why is this a question that you want to know so badly?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:49 PM
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It is. I have never encountered a man in person who has cared about whether or not I’m a virgin. I’ve never even been asked that question. It is 100% an online thing, probably because the men who focus on that online are virgins themselves and they would feel insecure or inadequate dating a woman who isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 06:01 PM

I mean I date average dudes all of the time. If they’re my type, I give them a chance when they approach me. The internet doesn’t speak for all women. They’re just some women who give their opinion. There are others who don’t mind being approached. I definitely don’t if its in a respectful manner, even if I’m not interested. I don’t really need to be acquaintance with someone to be interested in them. I don’t speak for all women, but if a guy is too shy to directly ask me out, he could at least …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:55 PM
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Are you trying to misunderstand me? My initial reply literally says that feeling attraction isn’t the problem. Even in the reply that you’re responding, I say “Their emotions weren’t a burden to me at all. They could have talked it out with me.” Clearly that in itself isn’t the issue. Its the fact that those feelings translate to “I can’t be around you now.” I don’t want to become friends with someone who will develop such intense feelings for me, that they can’t even be around me, if I don’t re…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:16 AM
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Yeah I would do exactly that. Ignore the attraction, kill it or just accept that its there and there’s nothing I can do about it. There are other men in the world. Being attracted to a friend is not that big of a deal. I can still be friends with them. Its not like they’re a situationship or a fwb, where we’ve crossed that line.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 08:00 AM
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Yeah I get the perspective. You didn’t need to write this much. I just wish that men like this would stay away. If the woman is confiding in you, trusting you, etc then she’s treating you like a friend. A pretty close one at that. If you can’t handle a friendship with even a mildly attractive woman without developing feelings, then don’t have one. At least don’t tell that woman how to feel after you’ve ended it because she treated you like a friend. Just acknowledge it for what it was. Your hope…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 07:49 AM
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You must not have read my initial reply or really tried to understand it. I didn’t exactly leave anything up for interpretation. I quite literally said that I don’t fault anyone for finding someone attractive or developing attraction. I said this to point out that, in my experience, I have never ended a friendship with a guy over him catching feelings for me. They have ended the friendship with me because the feelings weren’t reciprocated, which hurt because it felt like the friendship wasn’t ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:58 AM
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It’s a poor strategy. All I’m hearing is that I think that I’m gaining a friend while they’re really just trying to get a girlfriend and if they don’t get that, they don’t want anything to do with me. It feels like trickery to me. I take friendships seriously. If they didn’t want to be friends, then shouldn’t have pretended like they did.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:48 AM
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I was asked what average means to me. Have a different opinion if you would like to. I still stand by mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 05:46 AM
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And now those romantic feelings are more powerful than our friendship? Yeah I can’t help if that doesn’t feel genuine, especially if it happens relatively early on in the friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 04:39 AM
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If they were so interested, they should have approached with that, instead of leading me to think that they really want to be friends. Then I could have rejected them without already building a bond and it wouldn’t matter if we continued speaking or not. They really made think that we were buddies, who looked out for each other and had each other’s backs, just for them to drop me because they actually had ulterior motives. The only person who is really hurting is the person who gets blindsided b…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 03:15 AM
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Its hard to feel like someone was genuinely interested in your friendship, if they drop you for not being interested in a relationship. Particularly, over something that is not your fault. You can’t help that their feelings are unrequited from your end and you can’t force them either. It feels so unfair for a friendship that you really valued and enjoyed end over that. Usually friendships end because one of you has wronged the other, but in this case, no one has been wronged. So, it hurts to be …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 02:53 AM
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I don’t find my friends good looking though. If I did, I wouldn’t have tried to be friends with them when I first met them, I would have flirted and tried to date them. We became friends because it made sense to just be friends. Now, I have developed friendships with men who I found physically attractive but I didn’t like their approach to romantic relationships and once we became pals, the attraction dissipated. They were my bro and that was it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:11 AM
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I have never dropped a male friend for admitting that he has feelings for me. Its always been the other way around, where they drop me for not reciprocating those feelings. I don’t fault anyone for developing attraction or having attraction, especially if they communicate those feelings to me in respectful manner. In my experience, its always been men who end the friendship because it was never a genuine one in the first place. They were just hanging out with me because they wanted a shot. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:03 AM
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Wait can you tell me how. Are you saying that you just want to be friends with women that you’re attracted to? Or that that’s how men view friendships with women? I’m intrigued now.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 01:00 AM
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Gold retriever energy is great in a relationship. However, if I’m approached by a guy and he’s giving me “friends energy” then that’s how I will see him. There is a small window for me to not see him that way and once that window passes, he’s like my brother. At that point, the friendship matters to me more than any relationship and I don’t want to jeopardize it. There is also not any attraction anymore because first, I assume that they’re not attracted to me since they didn’t flirt with me or m…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:59 AM
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Um well those descriptions came out of nowhere lol. Someone can be well groomed and have a cute face to everyone else, but just not to you. My male friends aren’t universally ugly. Many of them attract women or are in relationships, they’re just not attractive to me and that’s okay because attraction doesn’t matter in a friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:54 AM
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I don’t see why anyone would share with a friend that they would never date them. I wouldn’t want to know that information from them lol. It has nothing to do with our friendship or maintaining it. It would be quite awkward to share honestly because what are you even supposed to do with that information?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:47 AM
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All of my male friends are guys that I wouldn’t date. If I wanted to date them, I would have approached them with that energy, but I didn’t, so I became friends with them instead. Even if they were attractive to me, if they’re just giving me friendship vibes then that’s what they’ll get.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:44 AM

So before it was “women want dominant men” and now you’re shifting the goalposts? Okay. The book sold 125 million copies worldwide. We don’t know how many of those were bought by women and how many enjoyed it after reading it. Also, there are 4 billion women in the world. Yeah, I hear you but most women arent like a fictional character. Some? Sure, but a blanket statement on all because of erotica? Yeah that’s a leap. That’s all I’m saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:37 AM

He makes those films himself. So obviously. Regardless he’s one man. Now all men are like him? That’s my point. Not all women read eroticas and not all eroticas have a power fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:12 AM

Why would boring people be in anyone’s fantasies? There’s no point in reading or watching it if its just like real life. Now a lot of women are content with real life, that’s why majority of them don’t read eroticas and didn’t know what Fifty Shades of Grey was until it was mass marketed. However, of course those who indulge in that would want to escape in a story that’s unrealistic. A lot of Hallmark films feature male love interests who aren’t assertive and are sweet and quirky.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/25 12:10 AM
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I was pursued by an average guy a few months ago. He was 25 and balding due to genetics. I said what I said lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 09:00 PM
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Okay, so I’m going to assume that all men consume incest porn and that they all want to fuck their daughters. That’s what I’m saying is ridiculous. Assuming that all women read eroticas, the same type and it accurately reflects what they want in real life is such a massive leap.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:52 PM
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I mean we’re talking about average men right? A head full of hair is usually considered a very attractive trait lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/25 08:41 PM
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Erotica is just fantasy. Its only hot because it isn’t real. Should we watch incest fantasy porn and use that to conclude that most men want to fuck their daughters? Or assume that majority of men are even watching that exact content? Like cmon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:12 PM
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Yes. I have many times before, but they were men who could not be taken seriously, especially at my age. They were either covert about their lack of commitment or upfront about it. None of that interested me. They were also very attention seeking, which bugged me because I’m the opposite. Although they were exciting at first, we didn’t align on anything else. The men who really captured my heart in the past were always average.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:03 PM
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Where’s the unlikelihood? There are some people who have universal appeal. Most people would agree that they have a stunning face. There are others who look okay or more distinct. I have found myself wildly attracted to okay looking men after getting to know them. I don’t need everyone else to agree and feel the same attraction for me to find them attractive. Its quite sad if you base your preferences on how others view them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:42 PM
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Well one of the key components to being attracted to an average guy is that, above all else, they’re pleasant to be around. I have been on dates with average men, who were condescending, patronizing, asked invasive questions too soon, know-it-all nerds (Not just nerds, but the kind that thinks that they have to challenge and lecture you about content that you’ve already seen), not gentlemen like at all, pushy, and just not very “warm” to be around. Some were incredibly quiet and practically made…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:15 PM
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I pretty much described my ex, except the head full of hair and he eventually became very funny to me after I understood his sense of humor. I also described the guy who I’m dating now, except I don’t know how much he makes because I don’t feel comfortable asking just yet. Women like me do exist and we’re more common than people think. I’m not a supermodel, nor am I perfect. It would be insane for me to expect my future partner to be that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:03 PM
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Early 20s. Why? How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 07:52 PM
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Doesn’t have abs or a head full of hair, not particularly exciting to be around but still good company, makes under $80k a year, under 6 feet tall, isn’t super funny, doesn’t turn heads when he walks in the room, but is still attractive to me, lives with a roommate, and isn’t very assertive, but still loves himself. That’s average to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 07:33 PM
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To this day, I gave average guys a chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 09:44 PM
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Dude Nice Guys are bad. Not guys that are nice but Nice Guys. You know the ones who pretend to nice and all of the things that OP described, just to reveal a darker personality later?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:04 AM
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There is no way that you equated stalking to love. This is exactly what I mean by Nice Guys are scarier than people think. That meekness is just a front. There’s a darker personality behind them that they hide until they can’t anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 08:03 AM
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Yes to all of this. Essentially, you have two not so great people to pick one from. One is exciting, confident, makes his intentions obvious, and can provide great pleasure albeit temporary. The other is boring, passive, doesn’t make his intentions known on purpose, and pretends to be the safe option. Who would choose the second option? Both are going to end up as a waste of time anyways, might as well choose the one that’s more fun. At least bad guys are obviously no good. Nice guys put up a fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 07:55 AM
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Nice guys play mind games. Just because they’re less likely to get physically violent than bad guys, it doesn’t mean that either be tolerated. One tries to manipulate you to get what they want, while pretending to be a good person and the other also does the same, while making it obvious that they’re a terrible person. Both suck and should not be entertained.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 07:47 AM
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So they’re the ones who are really unrealistic?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 03:43 AM
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Literally what I said, has nothing to do with that “logic” that you pulled out of your ass. Past relationships and preferences, that are truly in the past, will not impact the relationship in most cases. In the cases that it would have an impact, yes partners should be forthcoming. For example, lets say in a hypothetical situation I’m a former sex worker and I begin dating a man, who I find out has a lot of angst and unease with sex work or just women who have had lots of sex in general. Would I…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 12:11 AM
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Because that’s literally cheating. You’re not talking about the past, you’re talking about how you’re going to act in the relationship. The person deserves to know if you don’t plan on being polyamorous.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:25 PM
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Yeah this is exactly it. The way that men envision “rape” is not the same way that it plays out in most women’s fantasies. Usually its just fantasizing about an attractive man being so insanely attracted to you that he takes what he wants and it’s without grotesque violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:06 PM
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I like a little bit of rough sex and so it wouldn’t bother me at all if my partner enjoyed it as well. Why would I have a problem with him getting off on choking and dominating me, if we’re both consenting to it? His aim would be to sexually please me as well. Nothing wrong with that. I would only be bothered if he enjoyed doing those things to genuinely hurt and humiliate me AKA when I don’t consent to it. The women that you are talking about don’t represent most. Most women want their partners…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 07:03 PM
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Agreed so heavily. He ruined his entire post by ending it with that example. If woman B “won” then I would rather just be single. I don’t want to have to be the cool girl with no standards or expectations of loyalty to get a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:06 AM
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Its not that quietness is a problem itself. I just know that whenever I see a cute guy who is quiet and reserved, I always assume that he doesn’t want to be bothered so I don’t bother him. I can’t tell if he’s just shy or genuinely doesn’t want to be spoken to. The last I would want is to approach someone who already seems like they would reject just a conversation. Its hard to attract partners if you seem unapproachable.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/25 02:10 AM
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All except dirty dancing. Its more disrespectful than cheating in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 02:12 AM

Precisely why I’m baffled. Those women are out of their minds
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 09:18 PM
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When and where did I even allude to being a red pilled woman? I’m not a feminist but I’m content in sounding like one to a red piller.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:38 PM
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I would ask him why he didn't ask it sooner if this question was so important to him. I would assume that it means a lot to ask him if he’s asking, so who waits months to ask something like that? I would then ask him how much it matters what my answer is and then decide what to do from there. I would immediately begin to question if I got involved with the right person though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:19 AM
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Alright man. If this mentality has helped you find happiness then great. I would love to hear about the happy and successful relationship you’re in right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:26 AM
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Whats being said here?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:00 AM
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Yeah that’s what I’m saying. There are men who care and those who don’t. You don’t need luck to find either. Not all men think alike.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 11:55 PM
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So you're now in a happy relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 09:25 PM
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Okay? Sure. You’re referring to men who think like you. Not every man does. I just gave examples of some who don’t and you refuse to accept it because you are too immature to see that other men can view relationships differently than you do. They must be men with no options or ready to divorce to be married to women who you would not want. Do you see how childish that mindset is? You probably don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 08:35 PM
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