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Shortage of men after WW2.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:29 AM
1

Read this thread again. We are talking about the data of number of sexual partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 06:47 AM
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No, it's saying that when men in those self reported surveys about how many women they had sex with, they should totally include those women. They count as much as a ons.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:30 PM
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That still counts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:48 AM
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Or you could fuck off and let her meet someone who actually likes her.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 07:48 AM
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I doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 08:16 AM
4

Replace 'kiss the ground she walks' with 'fuck her'.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:44 AM
1

In France, if you are unmarried and some woman says you are the father of her child, but you deny it, do you just get charged child support, or is there perhaps, some legal method where you can ask for a dna test?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/25 06:36 AM
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The past certainly did. As long as you didn't deny your husband is rights, enthusiasm wasn't required.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/22 09:57 PM
5

Boys will be boys. They aren't held responsible either.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:54 PM
3

For money, not attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/22 11:42 PM
2

Or just living by the maxim that good women don't like sex and you only need it for procreation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/22 04:37 AM
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Older women were once young and we remember who we dated.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 10:38 PM
2

Explain then how 50% of women find successful loving relationships/marriage and only 30% of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 10:55 AM
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You're the one who has 50% of women finding a successful relationship and only 30% of men. I guess there are a lot more lesbians than reported.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 10:30 AM
2

My husband was 180cm and 145 lbs on the day we married.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:49 AM
6

That is, they rank men much lower than you would expect Based on what? If 50% of guys are fat, then don't expect them to be > 4/10.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:43 AM
6

300 winning tickets vs 50 winning tickets? The first option is clearly much better.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:42 AM
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So, guys who suspected that they weren't the father tested and found that mostly they were?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/22 04:37 AM
1

Operation reversal rate or pregnancy rate? Back pressure in the tubes can make you still be infertile and the best rate I've seen is 50% pregnancy after reversal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 11:57 PM
1

I'd be interested in seeing how many people change their mind. I once saw the claim that 75% do, but there was no study to back it up. But drs don't like doing unnecessary procedures, which I can understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 11:55 PM
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Then your male friends are't telling you. The statistics I've seen are 10% men/11% women although a quick google tells me it can vary a lot higher if the woman is in an abusive relationship and can even be done by her MIL.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 11:50 PM
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Which is apparently 28-33 for college educated men, who will be marrying women aged 26-31. And it's partly because they feel too old for the dating scene. ​ https://www.today.com/health/reason-why-men-marry-some-women-not-others-t74671
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 10:28 PM
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If the day is that unimportant, then why does it matter that he remembered it? Especially with all the ads about it? If a couple decide to celebrate it, then he should make an effort, if they don't then why bother? My husband and I always buy seafood and eat at home, it's great and we look forward to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 09:32 PM
2

It's called reading the room. There are women who would love it and those who would hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/22 02:19 AM
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Some women don't have the urge to have children and I'm all for them not doing so. Any case I know where such a woman has been pressured to have kids instead, they've done a crappy job.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:43 AM
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A minor who is possibly attractive, unlike the 45 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/22 01:29 AM
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So you can't use their silence as proof that they approve.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 09:21 PM
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No. They judged it. People apparently notice when a relationship is very unbalanced and only relax when they realise why the people are together. So, either you have a lot more money, so they know why you were together or , even though she was younger, she wasn't particularly pretty. It was an interesting study, I wish I hadn't lost the link after my last computer crashed.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:45 AM
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You were claiming that no one objected because they didn't make faces to you. I conjecture that they were merely polite.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 02:32 AM
6

People judge silently in real life.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 01:34 AM
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Leo, you're old and gross, stay away. Which, apparently he does, he sends people out to ask for him so it's very transactional.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/22 11:53 PM
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Clearly they are talking in a relationship capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:30 AM
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Attractive guys who own their own house?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 09:21 PM
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Usually she meets guys off Tinder. She's thin and blonde, she doesn't have trouble getting dates, she has trouble keeping them after she loses her temper and berates them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 03:07 AM
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Yes, my sister is a complete bitch and her relationships never last past the three month mark.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 02:33 AM
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Anecdote time. My sister always dated good looking guys who used to break up with her because she treated them like shit. She's 40 and still single. still being pursued by guys she rejected in high school and still looking for the perfect guy. Her standards haven't changed, she just hasn't had them fulfilled. Me, I've been married since I was 23 to a guy 2 years older than me and we have three children. The women I know who appeared to me to have settled hard, did so when they were young. The ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 02:32 AM
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Young women don't find older men attractive, they marry them for money. In your grandmother's case, she probably wasn't even encouraged to consider what her future husband looked like at all. Everyone probably asked her 'Does he have a good job?' 'Does he own his own home?' ​ Women who can freely choose, choose younger men because that is what they are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 02:22 AM
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Yes, huge age gaps follow wages gaps. When women have fewer opportunities in work and dating, more of them will marry for money. You've gotta marry someone, so it might as well be the rich guy if you haven't met someone awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 02:13 AM
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Don't have to. Didn't date more than five years older and even that was unusual. Beards make guys look older btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 02:10 AM
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Yes, it's a rejection, but not an insult. Not every two people are compatible.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/22 02:01 AM
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Lots of men work useless government jobs too. ​ Yes, but they still manage to have more free time after you add in unpaid work and childcare. Who gets to take time off work to pick up sick kids from school and then not get that promotion?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 01:47 AM
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It's the opposite. Even when men spend time with their children it's usually family time, not them with their children, letting the wife relax.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/21 12:54 AM
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>Regardless of their family arrangements, fathers in general have more leisure time than mothers. ​ >Dual-income fathers have more leisure time than mothers; the gap is about 4.5 hours per week.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:55 PM
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Like Matthew Gray-Gubler or Tom Hiddleston?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:33 PM
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Don't forget, do most of the work and let him take the credit/act like it was nothing and he doesn't need to acknowledge you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/21 09:17 PM
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Unlike the baby formula, that's just a want.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 04:01 AM
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Plenty of women use this to imply “you’d be great for someone else…just not me” How do you know that is not the truth? I've dated guys that were perfectly fine men, they just didn't click with me. The few I know about went on to date other women, usually ones less nerdy than me.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/21 03:58 AM
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And yet the men on this sub maintain that men love unconditionally. Very few of them would love a woman they knew would never have sex with them and would never do any housework.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/21 12:10 AM
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And feminism tells women not to vet men?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 10:18 PM
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So if I wasn't a feminist, I would be flattered when any random guy gives me the same boring pick up lines in an attempt to get casual sex from me?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:46 AM
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Serious answer. Because your mind shuts down a lot of sensations that you yourself cause. Ever tried to tickle yourself? Now try to get someone else to tickle you while you place your hand nearby.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/21 01:23 AM
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It has a lot to do with them. Hence red pillers confusing all women who will date them with all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 02:28 AM
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Well, in that case, I am for it's legalisation. I'm not going to do anything either way, but it now has my mental support instead of my mental denunciation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:35 AM
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Men. Comparing sex to food and shelter again.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:23 AM
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Twenty years and we own a business together. It's going well so far.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:22 AM
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Not in my country.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:14 AM
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I don't know anything about my own husband? He is morally opposed to prostitution.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:13 AM
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They face higher rates of rape than the general public. Very few of them wanted to work in sex work and most of them hate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:08 AM
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That there are a lot of morally dubious men? That's not news. Luckily I managed to find and marry a good one.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:07 AM
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>I feel that this is how dating/relationships used to be ​ Because you're romanticising the past. Lots of people had shitty or medicocre marriages but just reassured themselves they'd be rewarded in heaven, that good women didn't like sex anyway and 'to spare the rod is to spoil the child'.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:06 AM
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The guys are being coerced into a sexual relationship for money?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:04 AM
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No, because they are person of low moral integrity.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:03 AM
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And that's disgusting too. s
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 01:03 AM
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I was for legal prostitution until I found out that it increases trafficking. But regardless, I wouldn't date a man who had hired a prostitute. The whole concept is viscerally disgusting to me and I don't want to be with a man who hires a woman who doesn't find him attractive to pretend to like him and enjoy sex. ​ I don't think cheating should be criminal either but i don't want a cheater.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/21 12:16 AM
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Yes, but only a little bit is realistic and presumably goths want other goths, party people want other party people and sports mad people want someone sportsmad.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 02:23 AM
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When girls think about dating they just take for granted the guy will be a top 10% type guy. They are taking it for granted that the guy is asking how to pick up his female equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:08 AM
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To add to your analogy, they are assuming that you, a mechanic are asking about how to get a new mechanic's job, not how to get a job as an accountant. If you're a 5/10 nerd, they are going to advise you how to court another 5/10 girl nerd, not 9/10 party girls, unless you specify.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:06 AM
1

He doesn't perform basic cleanliness without an external motivation? Child.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/21 09:27 PM
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By OPs logic, they would lose weight for you if you were attractive enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 11:13 PM
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And according to OP, men can only be bothered with things like keeping their room clean if they are dating a woman who is worth impressing. So, you know that's going to fall by the wayside as soon as the limerance wears off, right. It sounds like 'insecure man babies' is an apt description because he can't self motivate to keep basic hygiene standards and/or he doesn't think he is worth having a clean room.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/21 09:36 PM
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Red pill dudes need some feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 06:00 AM
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Which, ironically, includes having the mental fortitude to stick it out when it's tough on the farm, do hard physical work and butcher pigs. So feminine.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 03:41 AM
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But much of this just reflects the reality of human beings — people aren’t perfect, they’re going to act in their own self interest, Feminism does have that saying about treating women like they are people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:49 AM
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The central tenet of all forms of feminism is that women are equally as valuable as men and entitled to equal opportunities. The central tenet of all forms of red pill is that men are superior to women and not only entitled to treat them like crap and keep them from opportunities but that women really like this, despite what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/21 01:48 AM
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Am I rushing to an appointment with my tennis coach which I paid a lot of money for and I don't want to be late, it is an annoyance.If you're the third guy in the last fifteen minutes, it feels harrasssing and you won't get anywhere. People aren't just telling you not to harrass women for women's sake, they're offering an explanation for why you're failing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 11:19 PM
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She clearly hit the wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 03:47 AM
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I don't like him. He's a bit like Benedict Cumberbach, still photos of him look awful but he's better when you see him in movies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/21 12:13 AM
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You are making things up again. It was a criticism of your understanding. ​ I don't have the study, I read it a few months ago. At least it did say that women rated the men higher. The one you posted says they don't gain in attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 01:18 AM
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As opposed to accusing all women of lying because studies showed a slight tendency towards a behaviour?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/21 01:05 AM
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They don't find him more attractive. ​ >The attractiveness ratings did not show this same pattern, suggesting that attraction ratings do not capture the same dynamic as our interest in pursuit questions ​ They want to settle down and a guy with a girlfriend is a better bet than a single guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:45 PM
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I read one of those studies, the increased rating was 0.2, so it boosted you from say a 6 to a 6.2, which is hardly an amazing feat. It also didn't show whether it was an across the board reaction or was only some women. If 20% of women boosted your rating by a whole point, but the other 80% didn't change theirs, it makes it seem like a big change to the guy who is the recipient of it in real life but women aren't lying by saying that they never do it. ​ No one denies that there are women who de…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/21 10:32 PM
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For much of history, parenting was done by a bunch of guys with PTSD from war and their rape victims/sex slaves. I think we're doing well to get as far as we have.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:56 AM
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The other half are psychologically damaged individuals so alienated from their own community identities and social bonds they're disgusted or frightened at the idea of its continuation. Sounds like we should be happy these people aren't having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:38 AM
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Why sign up to have ten kids and be the sole career for the first 10-13 years when you can stay home, raise the last few of your siblings through the 10-17 age range, babysit however many nieces/nephews you want during the day and sleep in your own room alone at night?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/21 02:30 AM
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Did they wane because the girl thought she was putting in more than she was getting out? Because that would explain why you thought it was such a good relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 11:54 PM
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Best for you. Did the girl see it that way?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/21 11:46 PM
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You can if he talks about football the entire time and then hits you up for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 02:19 AM
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Probably already married. They're a minimum of 42 and I would imagine that child free men outnumber child free women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 02:01 AM
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Not according to divorce stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:53 AM
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Also, men cheat more, gamble more and are violent more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/21 01:48 AM
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Family values too. The most blatant gold digger I know had a mother who was also a gold digger and lived off men her whole life. Was dating older rich guys from the get go.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/21 11:57 PM
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I mean, I've never heard of this, so I don't. Perhaps you should make a post.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/21 02:42 AM
1

Fashion awareness is a trait. It probably is one of the more easily learnable, although possible the woman is after caring about fashion, because otherwise it tends to fade as the relationship goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 12:07 AM
1

Men fall back, raping women because no one finds them attractive. Lovely.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 12:01 AM
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If you were the type of well rounded person who does care about the personality of their life partner you would not be automatically passed over by emotionally mature women. Until then, enjoy dating shallow vacuous women who don't care who you are a a person either.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 11:57 PM
2

So how are you going to change all those unchangeable traits?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:26 AM
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I like intelligent, tall, slender, dark haired men with a similar sense of humour to me. You can hit the bottle and fake laughing at movies I suggest but you're not going to have any luck with the rest. Go look for someone who likes husky blonde guys who watch sport. Or whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:23 AM
0

Men women don't care about don't. Some men do care, those are the ones most women want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:16 AM
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Or they know, and it's things men can't change so why bother telling them, they'll just argue with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/21 04:10 AM
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Why? That was how their parents treated them while saying that they loved them. So it's not that bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 01:44 AM
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It's normal to them. Why would they hide it? It takes a while for them to realise not to say certain things out loud. Abusers know they have to abuse behind closed doors or no one will deal with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 01:42 AM
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And how long can this happen before you conclude that he is an idiot for realising that it is never happening?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 01:37 AM
1

It can't be symmetrical because you can go way higher than five but not lower than 0.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 01:59 AM
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Oh, those hookers totally have feelings for him and don't fake their orgasms. It's not at all like their reading his obvious desires and trying to stroke his ego in order to snag a repeat customer.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 07:19 AM
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Ah, yes. "I hate this ugly old dude but I'll pretend to like him while he's paying me and then go home to my actual boyfriend". Such a great attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 06:09 AM
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Still a lot more older guys into young women than the reverse. Hope he has more money than the next guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:21 AM
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I have a type. That's easily a two point swing. +1 if you are it, -1 if you're not. And actual people who post their pics, I wouldn't be mean and give them a low rating. Celebrities however...some of them are so overrated I'm sure people are just joining together to troll me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:12 AM
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That's not underrating though. They are giving a lower rating that black women might but as long as it's true it's not underrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 05:05 AM
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LOL. No, they're desperate as their looks fade and they thought that wouldn't matter, that hot young women like balding fat 40ish middle managers.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 04:54 AM
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That's where the data is. But if anything, men will date uglier women than they will marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 04:46 AM
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Statistically, the one group is uglier than the other so either your first group far outweigh your second or most hot girls marry guys their age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 03:58 AM
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No, people with large age gaps are fatter and uglier than those who date same age.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/21 03:43 AM
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So, if you're an 8/10 and she's a 6/10, why is she the prize?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/21 03:40 AM
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Then why is the woman the prize? ​ Stats for online dating show men certainly try to date up.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 09:57 PM
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Because men don't like to date down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 04:14 AM
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Some of them are, those women are just not in the market. They are either paired off just waiting until men their age are ready to settle down.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 03:16 AM
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Of course, they can't hit back as hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/21 03:22 AM
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You don't let women call you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/21 12:29 AM
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Because I don't want to have had sex with a guy who I would not want to admit having sex with. Shame can be internal as well as external.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 10:02 PM
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He is currently married again and is supporting an alcoholic wife with emphazima and other health issues. And there was no indication of this prior to the marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 07:11 AM
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Statistically correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 07:09 AM
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It really does matter. Men are claiming that younger women find them attractive, women think it's monetary. So, you were closer to getting an actual job than guys their age?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 05:45 AM
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Right back at you though. When I was young I wanted an attractive young fun guy and I had to turn down lots of High N guys who were only after low-commitment sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 05:44 AM
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Were they dating you for your looks, money or personality is the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 05:37 AM
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Men, confusing gold digging for sexual attraction since forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 05:33 AM
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No. When you, for example, both swipe on each other on Tinder, presumably it's because you find each other attractive. To then have the guy tell you that he finds you attractive, makes him either sound like an idiot or he thinks you're an idiot and need to be told something really obvious. So, moron or condescending. And now you're wondering why she is now less than impressed than before you opened your mouth. I suggest you try for the 'quiet and mysterious' type.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/21 01:01 AM
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And some people became priests and nuns and lots settled into unhappy marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 06:14 AM
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I don't know why they would. It interrupts the mood and makes them seems like a gormless idiot.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 05:37 AM
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Because it's really obvious and only someone with no manners/couth/social ability would outright ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 04:11 AM
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And I would like to check out other factors so I can eliminate him before I realise that he's someone I'd be embarrassed to admit that I had sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:54 AM
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It's autistically retarded. You're on a date, you've passed the first tests. You are now undergoing additional tests to find out the answer to that very question. Do you also ask exam proctors for the answers to the test questions? Do you ask them if it's time to go when you still have an hour left?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/21 03:53 AM
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Or the one who was cheated on filed?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/21 09:46 PM
1

Trust me, younger girls shame them for it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 09:44 PM
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I'm talking about when I was younger. And THEN, I hated being hit on by old guys. Younger girls as a group hate it. Not just older women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 07:02 AM
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Oh, you sweet summer child. Gross old dudes who currently have young girlfriends won't hesitate to try for another fuck toy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 06:00 AM
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When guys hit on me, it becomes my business.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 04:40 AM
4

Well, he had a chance with this girl, now he doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/21 01:58 AM
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I mean, mostly it's just a feeling of 'blah'. Apart from the year I decided to give every guy who asked me out a chance, I would not accept a first date from someone I didn't like a bit. If our everyday interactions are kind of 'meh' why would I want to spend more time with them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:29 PM
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Even so, he dropped his chances from 5% to 0%. How is that helpful?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:26 PM
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I didn't say they did. We are discussing groups of people who hate age gap relationships. And the young women who get hit on by old guys are one of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 10:18 PM
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And here we are on this thread, listing our complaints about dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 06:30 AM
2

Nah, that's gross too and makes old guys think that if your friend did it, you might be down too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 05:42 AM
1

That is what were are discussing. You said only young betas and older women were upset by it. It was a pain in the arse to me and my friends when we were young. We hated it. ​ Now it's starting to annoy me by proxy as my daughter has to deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 05:28 AM
0

Yeah, but those of us who aren't into that are affected by the fact that more older men are into younger women than the reverse. Same as more men being into casual sex than women. We have to put up with hordes of guys bothering us in search of something we're not interested in.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 05:13 AM
1

The poor young women who have hordes of gross older men descending upon them. Because if one young woman does it, they all must, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/21 03:19 AM
1

Compare two woman. One has an N on 2, both from LTRs. She's been on the market twice, dating a small number of men between relationships. Another women, the one red pill complains about, is the same age, with a N of 100. She's been on the market 100 times. She's much more visible to single men, but not necessarily more representative of the average woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:29 AM
4

If you got a specific answer, you'd pretend to do that, instead of being genuine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:10 AM
3

They're not unique, but it's certainly common for guys to lie and say they are into everything you're into in order to try and pick up.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 02:08 AM
1

The manosphere in general often says that women should marry as 18yo virgins. My general point is that women can't marry by themselves. We have to wait for men to be ready, also. And I was certainly never overwhelmed with guys who listed marriage as a goal. ​ And I was certainly never overwhelmed with youn
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:36 AM
1

I specifically said 20yos.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/21 01:12 AM
1

That's a surprising statement. I never met any of those guys nor did my friends. Those poor marriage minded guys. I had to wait until I was 21 to meet my 23 yo future husband.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 10:48 PM
1

It's more of a statement. If men want women to marry at eighteen, they have to be ready to marry at 20.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 07:53 PM
6

That would be rude. We trash them behind their back. They can figure it out by seeing who everyone is envious of and it's never you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 09:35 AM
2

If they don't prioritise it, then it wasn't that important to them. But yes, if they don't meet someone suitable, some of them will become single mothers if that is what it takes. They can't wait forever for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/21 09:31 AM
5

I was fine killing time until the guys my age settled down. No need to lower my standards to old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 11:37 PM
0

Women who prioritise children know they have a biological clock and aim to get married to someone close to their own age in time to have the number of children they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 09:59 PM
9

Partners who are ready to get married? I don't remember being overwhelmed with young guys who wanted to settle down at college. They all just wanted to party.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/21 09:57 PM
1

I'm a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/21 04:37 AM
1

There'e no confusion to the friend zone. You are a friend, not a romantic partner. And talking about guys you like is a thing women do with their friends. Men too, I assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 10:18 PM
1

So, if a girl asked you out and you liked her at all, you would tell her "Maybe later" or "Let's just be friends"? ​ Because I find that hard to believe. You know what it means, you just don't want to admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 09:46 PM
1

You don't know that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 11:24 AM
1

Men will come over when a pretty girl gives them a smile. It's the unsolicited and unwanted ones that women want to be rid of.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:39 AM
1

Don't forget, not getting the really, really, obvious hints that she wasn't interested. He's that thick, he probably won't notice any harassment sent his way. It's attention, right, and that's good.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 08:09 AM
1

No, he's supposed to get that it's a firm no, but not be insulted. Because being verbally abused by a rejected guy can ruin all or part of your night, which is why they do it. Not because they think it will work, but they want to ruin her night out out of spite, because she wasn't interested, which is apparently a punishable offense.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 06:20 AM
2

In that case it is code for "I wouldn't fuck you if you were the last man on Earth", but it sounds much nicer, so his feelings aren't as hurt, but hopefully he still gets the message.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/21 06:17 AM
1

Ah, so you're associating with prostitutes and they are still claiming to have a boyfriend? That sounds more like the red pill I know.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/21 12:28 AM
1

We are talking about the situation where she would never be interested in him. If you can turn that around 90% of the time, I am impressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 11:45 PM
5

I don't think they have to be sociopaths. Just dickheads.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 04:10 AM
9

You'd think something like "I have a boyfriend" would encompass both a completely negative answer while still being polite. It's why it's so popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 03:24 AM
1

And the first, and easiest way to do that is to enable people to uncouple themselves from bad marriages. Then there's only one person homeless instead of a family. ​ As for me, since I assume that will be next, I'm in Australia so our social welfare is really good and paid for by our taxes. I do support a domestic violence against men charity and my work has a revolving donation drive towards a variety of charities.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 02:26 AM
11

As opposed to when women say "I wouldn't fuck you if you were the last man on Earth" which men are fine with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:43 AM
1

I would bet there's some intersectionality between those homeless families and gambling, drugs, alcohol and violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:38 AM
2

Same to the men whose wife got pregnant by other men then. You're stuck with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/21 12:37 AM
5

No, that is my point. Laws are not there under the assumption that every man is bad, they are there so that people in bad situations have some rights. There were lovely people is all eras, the laws weren't for them. ​ And up until recently, there were no laws to protect women who didn't get lucky and marry a man who treated her like a princess. Women had to stay in marriages where drinking, violence and gambling were problems, now they can leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:56 AM
1

I read something yesterday which was about politics. People want to be lead by someone whose every decision they agree with. ​ Similarly, I don't know any women I'd actually call submissive. I do know women who let their husband take credit for the result of their manipulations, though. He can look forward to a cold shoulder every time he gets it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:53 AM
9

And what were the options for a woman whose husband treated her badly? Could she leave him and get a job to support herself or were there laws and social pressure to prevent it? Could she get half the unemployment payment sent to her bank account to buy food or did she have to watch him drink or gamble the lot away? ​ No one is guaranteeing that your marriage will be perfect, but we want people to be able to escape bad situations.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:48 AM
4

And aren't you twice divorced now?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:33 AM
1

ruyperganously hypergamously or unhypergamously?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/21 02:25 AM
1

This is the least icky option. She is mature and has decided that money trumps looks like red pill accuse 30yo women of doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 04:03 AM
-1

Why is she with an older, less attractive guy then?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:57 AM
1

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3706999/
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/21 03:35 AM
3

Just for the record, the average age of soldiers sent to Vietnam was 23. The average age of those sent home in body bags was 19. Just because we do it, doesn't make it a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:57 AM
3

They're in for a shock when they have these kids they're always on about.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:48 AM
1

A lady I spoke to did. If she returned to work for the one day, she was paid her full maternity leave. Otherwise she is considered to have quit and didn't receive anything. She felt bad, but not bad enough to give up all that money. I'd assumed that was fairly standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 03:38 AM
2

Because they don't get paid if they're honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/21 02:32 AM
4

?Tough
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/21 03:06 AM
0

Because i I find out on the second date that he's a Trump supporter, I can dump him before the sex. Men can fake it for a few dates, the longer dating goes on, the harder it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 11:19 PM
3

I was just thinking this yesterday. I think if I outlive my husband by only a few years, I will really enjoy those years. If I outlive him by a long time, I would get lonely. ​ I have my post-funeral celebration planned. I'm going to pay someone to spring clean the house and then I' going to enjoy having a tidy house for like three months.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 11:12 PM
1

Except for all the priests and nuns who report greater levels of happiness than the general population. ​ And it would still rank below housing as that is necessary for life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 10:59 PM
3

Women are saying "Listen to my body language, when I am busy and not giving you signals of interest, don't hit on me. When I do give you signals of interest, feel free to pick them up and act on them."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/21 12:49 AM
1

And plenty of male virgins are still alive despite not having sex, therefore by your logic, sex is not a necessity. Have any men died from lack of sex? Because people have died from lack of shelter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 09:34 PM
1

To women who like black guys maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 12:49 AM
1

Most people don't believe this. There's room for spontaneous vs planned but not for level of difficulty.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 12:32 AM
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While criminals and harsh weather exists, housing is a necessity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/21 12:31 AM
1

That is companionship. But still, how do the numbers work. Are all nine Billys orbiting the one woman who is Jim's FWB or does only one in nine women have a FWB but another eight have orbiters?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 11:06 PM
1

So if both Jim and Billy are spending their attention on the one woman, surely there is another woman out there with no one. Jim is getting sex and Billy companionship, so they aren't alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:52 AM
1

Sex isn't a need, it's a want, so they should do the same as whatever the people who don't get to go on overseas holidays do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:37 AM
2

So there's a moral difference between choking someone to death and shooting them? Because of the difficulty level?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:31 AM
3

No, you can't math. 50% of divorces are initiated for equal reasons. I only have to account for the 15% extra that women file. And considering that more men cheat, gamble, use drugs and are violent, I think that accounts for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 01:23 AM
1

Violence and drug use aren't really "to love and to cherish". These days you aren't expected to stay married if the other person breaks their vows first.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 12:51 AM
1

There's the OKCupid data that show men of all appearances send messages to the top third of women, showing that they do not know their own attractiveness level. Of course, men get more success as they get older. A lot of their dating cohort has paired up already. The good catches are gone, you're the top of what's left.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 03:47 AM
1

True, red pill doesn't like anything which disagrees with their narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 03:39 AM
5

No, social services track them down. A guy I used to work with did five years in prison for rape and knocked up a drug addict. When she left, he shared custody with her parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 02:36 AM
1

Red pill tells men younger women are attracted to their old asses all the time. And, judging by the guys that hit on me, there's a fair swathe of delusional guys out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/21 02:32 AM
0

Am I having a good time on this date where he is presumably showing his best side or do I wish I was at home watching reality TV and I don't even like reality TV?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:59 AM
1

You really should have left the gay option off. No one really has complaints about gay people dating other gay people.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:47 AM
-3

Having one suitable person to meet an date or group of twenty people, nineteen of whom are users/racist/full of themselves and one who is suitable. Which is better? ​ There aren't more suitable men for each women,women will be lucky if there's an equal number. Unless your claim is that 20% of women are wife material and 80% of men are husband material, so each woman can choose from four men.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/21 04:46 AM
1

I'm talking who cites infidelity as the cause of the divorce. And there's still violence to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 04:18 AM
1

Yes, and women divorce men for cheating more than men divorce women for cheating, so it makes up a larger percentage of the difference between percentage of women filing for divorce and men filing for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:37 AM
0

Sorry, I meant the most common gendered reason were men cheating and being violent. People cite lack of investment and growing apart equally.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:18 AM
3

The most cited reasons for divorce are the man cheating or being violent.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:44 AM
0

Some of us consider dating a thing you do in order to meet someone. Once I've decided he's not the one, I'd rather stay home alone. If he's decided the same thing, he can do me a favour by telling me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:30 AM
4

So, you agree, men who get regarded as friends are also a risk to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:21 AM
9

I've certainly read more than one account of a woman getting drunk in the presence of a trusted 'friend' who then raped her. Familiarity doesn't just mean dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:08 AM
1

It's not, but it means that women bring things to the table as well. Women aren't being valued just for existing. They supply value. Women are much less likely to be deadbeats than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 01:00 AM
1

No, but it's still true. Men don't just want to bask in the warmth of a woman's presence. They expect sex, companionship and housework and a paying job these days too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/21 12:19 AM
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He was a man talking to other men. Men don't notice other men's shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 01:32 AM
1

It's about how they phrase it to make it sound like women have a list of demands and men have only one (which conveniently encompasses the same thing). ​ It's like the picture that gets posted from time to time of the male and female model claiming that the only thing women have to do to be attractive is to not overeat while men have to do "list of things like spend hours in the gym and eat broccoli for months" when both clearly have to do the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/21 11:06 PM
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Because men want some they're physically attracted to (1 thing) and women want men who are tall, not balding, have a nice face, not fat (see four things).
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 10:36 PM
1

Women are threatened and inconvenienced and you are calling it privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 09:52 PM
2

Part of the reason women are pushed into these fields are the flexible hours, which will help them with childcare when they have kids. When they have kids, off course, they have flexible hours and their husband doesn't, so guess who is now taking time off their jobs for childcare?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 01:01 AM
1

You didn't address my last point. Insisting that women like being catcalled.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/21 12:28 AM
4

General you. The men who stalk, insist, nag, harrass, beg, assault, rape and murder. Or the guys in this thread arguing that women SHOULD feel flattered.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 09:51 PM
1

No normal man wants to ever intentionally hurt a girl. You said the above. A study in this thread said that 30% of men would rape if they could get away with it. Are those 30% included in normal men or are men divided into 70% normal men and 30% rapists?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 09:50 PM
1

So, are the 30% of women who admitted upthread that they would rape if they could get away with it, normal men or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 05:55 AM
4

Because you are ignoring the wishes of the woman who happens to live in that body because you want the body. You are reducing her from a person to her physical body.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 05:50 AM
1

Workplaces were the first to lose position to online dating. It was always the last resort.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/21 05:49 AM
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Usually when I was pressured to 'give him a chance', it was because he was well below average. His mother was hoping that she could call on her friendship with my mother to get me to date her weird son. ​ One such son was later actually diagnosed as Autistic after his arrest for exposing himself to underage girls. They weren't doing me a favour by introducing me to someone suitable who I might have bypassed, they wanted me to do them a favour by taking him off his mother's hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 05:09 AM
6

You're missing the vetting part which should be occurring. ​ It's not 1. Go on a date once a week. 2. When calendar says three months have passed, have sex." ​ It's 1. Go on a date. If he makes racist or sexist comments, decline a second date. 2. Go on a second date, if he voted for the wrong political party, decline a third date. 3. Go on a third date, if he mentions that he is militantly childfree and you want three kids, decline a fourth date...10. At around the three month mark, you go to hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/21 04:40 AM
1

Gold diggers too. Melania wouldn't care if Donald cheated as long as the money is still there.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/21 11:06 PM
1

Men value women when they think they can use them. They are counting on being able to rape and impregnate them and that they will cook and look after themselves. As soon as this turns out not to be true, then she is killed too. Fighting too much, being barren, only having daughters...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:47 PM
6

Also, because the rape part of it wasn't addressed. Have a rape, by all means but then deal with the consequences, don't just shrug it off.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:44 PM
2

Is reduces it. A 50% chance is better than a 90% chance.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 09:04 PM
3

Who mentioned pushing boundaries? I fluttered my eyelashes and the man who was to become my husband came right over. He's not autistic or socially fearful, he's a normal person.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 03:20 AM
4

To see if he's interested rather than just bored and thinks there's an opportunity for easy sex. To see if he is forward enough to ask.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 03:09 AM
6

Waiting to be asked out IS the screening.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 03:06 AM
1

This is how women sidestep the 3 date rule for sex. You go out as friends for a while but it's not dating so those don't count towards the three dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 03:02 AM
3

The highest group is couples within a year of each others age. 33.9% with another 27% within 2-3 years. That seems to be the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 11:37 PM
1

Or, I can be hungry and decided to cook at home (masturbation) rather than eat at one of the many dodgy looking restaurants with no positive reviews. The above poster is saying that unless you eat anything, anywhere, you don't have a sex drive (it's the one above him who you seem to be agreeing with).
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 11:29 PM
0

I don't find non-whit men attractive but even I thought 3.5 was harsh for Kris Middleton. ​ Also, Arthur Gosse's ears stick out. He won't get anything like an 8.5 from me without his hair covering them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 04:22 AM
3

All across the world, the more options a woman has, the more likely she is to marry close to her own age.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 03:55 AM
11

So, if I'm hungry and I don't eat because I'm dieting then I don't have a food drive? ​ You seem to be confusing lack of restraint with drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 03:46 AM
1

Perhaps you should read it before you dismiss it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 03:24 AM
1

It said that men who go to court end up with custody more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:44 AM
4

As per the study further up in the thread and my personal experience, they don't get no results. Men who put in the money and effort get more time with their kids. It just seems too hard for some of them to bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 02:20 AM
3

Yes, so men should say", "I thought it would be hard, so I gave up.", not "The courts were biased against me." ​ Men who actually go to court, get results.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 01:03 AM
2

They should own that decision then. I know men who have gone to court and ended up with more custody than they had.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/21 12:47 AM
1

There's a thing called a compromise. He decided he wouldn't get as high paying a job anywhere else but did not apply, so who knows. There's also thing called caring for your partner's happiness. It was a mining town, most people stayed for the contracted two years and left. Most people who worked there were young men. All the houses were owned by the mine, hence, no, family were not going to move there and why everyone found it hard to keep friends. Also, higher education was going to be an issu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 04:50 AM
0

Or, and stay with me here, you could marry an equal, someone who lets you have 50% of the say. I do know the outcome. My mother left and my father stayed. He married again and she left him too. He still stayed and retired with lots of money. My mother, on the other hand, despite several attempts by my father to get back with her, both before and after his second marriage, declared herself 'done with men' and lives happily single with lots of cats. So, they both got their own way, which, IME, is …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 01:17 AM
1

That's kind of irrelevant since we are discussing people who choose their leader and comparing wives to people who ended up with a leader they didn't want, aren't happy with and in some cases, are actively working against is not really relevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 01:08 AM
1

Yes, but people follow the leader who agrees with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 12:42 AM
2

Or, if I said something more neutral, like one person wanted to go right and the other left, you wouldn't make any assumptions. ​ So, yes, apparently people only like leadership when the leader chooses what they want but takes all the blame if it turns out wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/21 12:26 AM
1

You assumed it was her fault. But in either case, it's relevant. It's a clear case of leadership. You claim that she would have been happier if she'd submitted to my father's lead. Which she did for two years and she was miserable. He failed to take her feelings into account and was focused on money. Now, he has money and she has her family (sisters etc).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 11:42 PM
1

I love the assumptions you made to make it my mother's fault. The agreement was that they move for two years. My father wanted to stay longer in an area where they had no friends. After four years my mother was insistent that he honour their agreement, my father didn't want to return as he thought his pay would drop. He agreed to job hunt but after a year when he didn't put in a single job application, she left.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 11:05 PM
4

My parents got divorced over this. They moved interstate for five years. At the end, my mother wanted to move back closer to her family, Dad wanted to stay. Dad put his foot down and ended up single. ​ In the old days, she would have had to stay, not wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 05:10 AM
1

Didn't it turn out that his N was much lower than he claimed? Women he said he banged in his books had never heard of him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/21 05:06 AM
2

Did she get a second date? If not, how is she not being held accountable?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 03:08 AM
2

My grandfather was a millionaire. He left 80% of his wealth to his only son. The descendants of that son have an advantage over the descendants of his daughters that we will take generations to recover, if we ever do.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 02:50 AM
2

Leniency? You mean men will fuck women they don't respect and you want women to reciprocate?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 08:30 PM
15

Comfort you like you are a child. Women don't respect other women that lose it in public over nothing either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/20 02:53 AM
2

I'll give him a pass. Women who are actual murderers is quite a specific niche.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 09:05 PM
3

the leader of a cult that contained his personal harem within it. And the women in that cult killed people more than he did. He wasn't seducing church-going virgins, he was dating the women in his league.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/20 04:39 AM
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