Training-Champion988 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
256	I hate how a majority of the left just doesn't care about men at all	discussion	Training-Champion988	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/10/23 04:50 AM
188	"Feminism is only seen as Misandry because it puts men on the same ground as women"	discussion	Training-Champion988	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	27/12/23 02:52 PM
30	"Incel" has become too loosely defined, and this is to the detriment of men who care about men's issues, as well as simply outgoing neurodivergent men.	discussion	Training-Champion988	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	26/09/24 10:32 PM
12	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree.	discussion	Training-Champion988	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	15/03/25 08:52 PM

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
1	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. No, I'm not asking to bend our knee to anyone. I just think we need to reform our terminology to appeal to actually progressive feminists. They'll be more willing to acknowledge misandrists exist if the groups calling it out don't seem to oppose their own ideology.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 03:31 PM
-2	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. A lot more feminists would be willing to cooperate with us if our terminology aligned with theirs, even if we use it differently. I don't think it's not a feminist's job, but I really don't think they're going to agree with me either. It's a cycle of bickering that needs to be broken by one of our sides.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 03:29 PM
2	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. You're right, but I think if I posted something like this in a feminist-dominated area, they would respond with "how can we cooperate with people who deny our problems exist" or "how can we cooperate with people who just want to complain?" They don't want to work with us because they see us in such a way, so it's best to try to reform ourselves, even if it's hard. We don't have to stop hating misandrists, but we have to try to prevent progressive feminists from becoming misandrists. Also, becaus…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 03:23 PM
0	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. You're right. It's a cycle. It's a cycle that needs be broken by one side or the other.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 03:09 PM
1	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. I understand but that's the word that practically every feminist uses, even those that think similarly to us. We're not going to convince them to stop using the word, and so the best idea we have is to redefine it. Denying that the patriarchy exists makes it sound to feminists that we are denying the social inequalities in the modern culture, and those inequalities absolutely exist, but to the benefit of nobody. It would be productive if we simply redefine patriarchy to be those inequalities (wh…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 03:05 PM
0	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. You're right, but I think you guys are going to be a lot more open to starting the spark that could allow us to work together than feminists, so we have to do it in such a way that would allow really progressive feminists to join us. Perhaps using "patriarchy" does imply that in its current stance, but if we redefine it enough in our own sphere, then it won't anymore.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 02:39 PM
3	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. What I'm advocating is not a middle ground between those, it can be firmly to the "I don't hate men," it just has to be more accepting of the non-misandrist feminism.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 02:35 PM
-2	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. I understand you but I don't want cooperation with those reddit feminists, I just think that if we reformed how we react to feminism a lot more of the actually progressive feminists will sympathize with us rather than the misandrists.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 02:31 PM
-5	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. You're right but I strongly believe they'll be much more open to it if there was a large amount of men's advocates who didn't reject feminism as a whole (and thus reject them).	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 02:28 PM
1	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. Could be a lot more successful if there are large groups to influence feminist's general perception of men's advocacy.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 02:23 PM
1	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. No I don't want an unequal relationship, I want an equal relationship with the actually progressive feminists, but I believe that equal relationship could be established by not rejecting their progressive ideals as a whole, which they define as "feminism." I just think it's best if we adapt to using their terminology, even if we use it differently from them.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 02:20 PM
-1	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. Yes for far too many, but the more we reject feminism as a whole and not just the portion of them that is absolutely terrible, is the more that actually progressive feminists will side with them over us and thus become them. A majority of progressive women see feminism as absolutely necessary for different reasons from their misandry, so it's very bad for us if we reject them as a whole.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 02:16 PM
0	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. See I completely agree with you. But I think the reason they never seem to be the norm is because when some misandrist is going off in a post, the average non-misandrist women isn't going to try to fight against them, because their bias is still tilted in their favor, whether they agree with them or not. Misandrism was established as the norm by those few misandrists, and I presume those women without hate in their hearts just don't find the motivation to fight against the norm in a community th…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 02:10 PM
9	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. no I'm just some 17 year old kid who thought about this while taking a shower yesterday.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 02:03 PM
2	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. Listen man, I understand your pain. I sympathize with so much of feminists, but it never seems like they sympathize with us. But the fact is that there are many completely normal feminists who aren't misandrist. It doesn't seem like it, but I promise reddit feminist subreddits aren't the place to find them. But by continuously rejecting feminism, which is what most left-wing women believe will help them, we are rejecting those left-wing women from joining us. I'm just saying that we would be abl…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 02:03 PM
-2	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. We can define those imposed toxic gender roles as the "patriarchy". We don't have to accept the feminist definition that says it benefits us. I'm just saying we'll be able to get a lot more done if we eliminate the scorn that feminists and a majority of the left feels for us.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 01:54 PM
-2	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. I understand your point, but I disagree on your interpretation of the patriarchy. While many feminists will, yes, use the patriarchy to insist that men have it easy and whatnot, our society DOES stem from a patriarchial structure, and our modern culture in many ways is still affected by this. Feminists flipflop on whether this hurts men too, but the answer is pretty obvious to us that this culture is terrible for us: it forces boys to be "strong" and not cry, it's what causes therapy to be desig…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 01:51 PM
-4	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. No we don't need to, but it would definitely help us out. Many actually progressive feminists turn a blind eye towards men's issues because they see MRA's as people who reject their issues and reject supporting women. In their eyes, feminism is how you support women. So the more we oppose feminism, the more we push potential sympathizers away from us. No, but it'd help.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 01:35 PM
-1	This community needs to open up to the idea feminism to at least some degree. The general definition of patriarchy in most dictionaries is "a family system where the father is in charge." This is the system our modern families stem from, and while it's true feminists use this to imply we created it, we can spend our time arguing against that, not that it doesn't exist. If we argue that it doesn't exist we lock ourselves out from sympathy from women who've been hurt by the byproduct of that system.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	16/03/25 01:30 PM
1	Anyone else feel conflicted about voting left due to how dismissive and condescending the discourse on men has become? Men are unfairly reduced to violent, unemotional providers, with no space to address their issues. While I oppose conservative policies, this still frustrates me. Personally, I'm too young to vote, but if I could, I would still absolutely vote democrat (not like I expect actual change or anything, I just don't want Trump). Nevertheless, the way the media addresses men not voting democrat this election pains me to my core, especially since the articles they make on it show the exact reason: the fact that they do not address men's issues. In the articles I looked at, not a single one mentioned "oh maybe we should stop demonizing men." Instead, as expected, …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	20/10/24 11:56 PM
1	"Incel" has become too loosely defined, and this is to the detriment of men who care about men's issues, as well as simply outgoing neurodivergent men. I defined incel that way because that's how, at least for what I've seen, it's used in popular culture. If we are going by the definition that just describes men who can't get laid, then yeah incel shouldn't really be used as an insult at all.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	02/10/24 09:12 PM
1	Why aren't there more bisexual men? I just want to bring up, being gay is looked way more down upon by society than being lesbian is. https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/lesbians-more-accepted-gay-men-around-world-study-finds-n1118121 Stats back up that gay men are much less likely to feel accepted by society than lesbian women. This isn't an attack on lesbian women, but it's just to say that men on men attraction is often seen as "weird" and unwelcome compared to women on women, so it also wouldn't be a surprise if bisexual m…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	14/09/24 05:08 PM
4	as a trans man, how do i fit into male advocacy? You're just as man as me, a cisgender man, don't worry bro. Contribute in any way you'd like. Bring in new ways of thinking. Support fixing mens issues in an open minded and considerate way. Both of these you already seem to be doing. Don't worry. Now talking about your points. I think you're right on many aspects. Feminism in its main definition is not mutually exclusive to male advocacy; however, I will mention that with how stuff has gone, a rivalry between the two groups is almost destined t…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	09/01/24 09:03 PM
9	I hate how a majority of the left just doesn't care about men at all I wish more people could see this comment.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/10/23 07:48 PM
35	I hate how a majority of the left just doesn't care about men at all I was thinking something similar to this recently. Leftists who put down mens problems are basically just conservatives with liberal biases. If their biases suddenly shifted, their mindsets would absolutely allow them to be misogynists or racists. I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks this.	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/10/23 06:41 PM
5	I hate how a majority of the left just doesn't care about men at all This makes me feel a lot better	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	23/10/23 03:14 PM