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Question For MenTraining_Hold_1354/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 12:58 AM
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It’s short sighted. The nature of people requires an understanding by exposure to what you idealize in comparison to your reality that alters your perception.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:29 PM
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We play the mission impossible soundtrack at work when my boss is being insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 08:25 PM
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My mom is like that. I’m pretty sure her mom was similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:10 PM
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I think it’s missing cats. Dark triad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:45 PM
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I remember that. I think she buys him something for his watch, but he sells his watch to buy her a comb. So their sacrifices of their most valued item end up rendering their gifts useless. The sacrifice for each other was the gift. You unlocked a memory for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:56 AM
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I don’t want to get married I see nothing wrong with men who feel the same way. My stepdad got half of what my mom spent her life building when they got divorced. Won’t be me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 11:12 PM
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No it isn’t. The male equivalent is you letting men penetrate you whenever they wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 06:33 AM
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I mean, I’d take all that a lot more seriously if conservatives/RP didn’t consistently fall into the same trap exposing hypocrisy via projection every time they are challenged on their application of critical thought. It’s emotion masked as logic every single time. Weaponizing ignorance is a convenient tool to keeping people that way. Especially considering they get triggered consistently and it makes them so easy to expose by those who see their blind spots before they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 04:44 AM
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It is always interesting to see someone who believes the problems of the past are the solutions of the future. That kind thinking is the definition of insanity and the very reason history keeps repeating itself. The world won’t be better for future generations until we stop reverting to what we got wrong in the past as if it’s the answer to the present.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:58 AM
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You know. The thing men claim is their reason to do anything - sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:32 AM
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Yes. It was in support of lowering standards to men with part time jobs making 12,000 a year. All those men need is a little feminine influence to reach greatness.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:26 AM
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A man in another thread said that you just need to use your feminine influence on him and he will be great.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:07 AM
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Thank you for this insight, really helpful. Are there specific male only spaces that you see as most important for men to have access to as well as maintained by voices that support?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 10:13 PM
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“men struggle to socialize with other men when women are involved” Do you mind elaborating on this? “men teaching women how and why to cooperate” And this?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 07:44 PM
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Those men aren’t the biological father who signed away his rights in exchange for his full paycheck. Those men don’t have the possibly of emotional attachment the same way when coming face to face with your little mini and immediately falling in love. This has nothing to do with any man other than the biological father. His choice has consequences. Just like when women have abortions and risk complications that lead to loss of relationships, financial burdens from procedure, physical and emotion…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:29 AM
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Because humans and relationships are complex. Men think they can make a permanent decision like abortion and still have both options to see the kid freely? No. He chose to remove all responsibility, she can let him see the kid if she wants (unlikely), but she and the law can change that at any time. He had an abortion and that should be enforced as his reality. When women have abortions there is no child. They don’t get to take it back. If men want the options that women have, they get the conse…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:09 AM
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If he chooses to financially abort the child it should automatically give her the right to place a restraining order into effect at any time. Perhaps with some specific conditions that allow him to stay where he’s living and stay at his job, but conditions can be easily removed if he violates the order in any way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:57 AM
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The mother should be given the option to easily get a restraining order at any time to keep him away from her and the child as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:48 AM
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And I’m allowed to call out bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:32 AM
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Then stop complaining like you’re a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:22 AM
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No you’re not taking accountability. You have the right to protect yourself. If she won’t sign or date you because you want to protect yourself via a prenup then she isn’t compatible with you. If you’d rather choose to do nothing to protect yourself when it’s already a fear for you - you’re insecure and untrusting that women would want to be with you for you. You just want to blame women in either scenario when you have every right to enforce boundaries before getting married.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:19 PM
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Men accusing women of being entitled and untrustworthy in either scenario is men being insecure and untrusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 11:04 PM
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Gross. Men should utilize prenups to protect themselves if they are worried about divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 10:12 PM
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When they say “she’s someone’s daughter” They are saying she matters because she is someone to someone else. In other words because she matters to a man and what happens to her affects him, she’s worth caring about because it’s in reference to his pain. Not hers. Not that she is simply someone because that alone isn’t enough for it to matter. It’s said in context to who she might be to others because without that insight people see her as worthless because her identify is based on her being an o…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 08:58 PM
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SkankHunt42 knew what he was doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/25 09:19 AM
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Neither did the promise to reduce the cost of groceries which a lot of us anticipated playing out in a similar fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 10:26 PM
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Thank you for linking these
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 06:56 AM
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What rights do women advocate taking away from men when you see those comments?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 05:38 AM
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I was sharing a perception to better understand his comment in comparison to mine. What you chose to respond to is also very helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:49 AM
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Women are currently at risk of losing their rights. Women have recently lost rights in several states. The SAVE act was passed which affects married women’s ability to vote. Would you feel the same way if you had the same risks where your rights could be completely removed because of who you did or did not choose to date or marry?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:41 AM
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I’ve seen men blame women for Trump being elected, calling it punishment for women’s standards being too high. I’ve seen men who say women should lose their voting rights to fix the dating market. I’ve seen men post fantasies threatening femicide if women don’t start dating men they aren’t attracted to. Obviously not all men are saying this, but I have seen an uptick of that kind of commentary since the US election. I wonder if you’d see the relevancy in debating the topic if you women were advo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/25 12:27 AM
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Yeah you’re right
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:56 PM
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True
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:20 PM
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I think bad skin is harder for men to pull off tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 11:14 PM
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That’s where I live and I have the same observation as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 08:44 AM
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Did you experience emotional neglect in your childhood from one or both parents? What you’re describing sounds like a symptom of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 07:30 AM
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There’s actually a full moon tonight. Don’t forget to hold it accountable tomorrow.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/25 12:30 AM
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Yes, and it’s funny because astrology is contradictory in the most convenient ways. But it’s not about any of that or about accuracy IMO. It’s about emotional context. It’s adding a layer of complexity to you which strengthens her emotional connection and curiosity which is going to increase her sexual attraction to you the more it lines up with her preferences. It also makes her feel like since you’re compatible you’re more likely to have the capacity to care about her the way she desires to be…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:52 PM
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<image> Do you think any of this is accurate in describing you?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:09 PM
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What’s your sign?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 10:01 PM
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That would be too many diapers for one household.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:59 PM
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I am so sorry for your loss ❤️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:40 PM
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I can’t but you should still get it anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:29 PM
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Hot. I love it. Buy it and wear it with sweats like rich people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:21 PM
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Asian silk absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:17 PM
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More of a reason to get a nice watch imo. I always notice watches on other people because I buy them as well. You can dress like a slob and counteract it with what a lot of people identify as a signifier of success that balances your presentation.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:16 PM
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Do you have any options in mind?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 09:00 PM
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Have you tried using a sunlight lamp? It might help a bit.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:43 PM
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This right here is why you never question artichokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 08:40 PM
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Why would she be more likely to sabotage the relationship (waste her own time) instead of breaking up with him and exploring other options? She’s the one with options he’s the one without them. If she can cut off the more attractive option for his behavior she could just as easily cut off the less attractive guy. Is it because he has been attempting to manipulate her and diminish her confidence and self worth into believing she’s not worthy of finding someone better who makes her happy? Because …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/25 03:04 AM
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I love artichokes. Never second guess artichokes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:11 PM
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I like a nice chest to lay on. It’s the perfect pillow when it’s muscular. It puts me right to sleep every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:36 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:12 PM
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The last earthquake here in Southern California we got loud ass amber alert a few seconds before we felt anything saying something like “WARNING EARTHQUAKE SEEK COVER IMMEDIATELY”. I guess it’s a new warning system and it was their first time using it so no one was expecting it. For a minute several of us were worried it was gonna be the big one 😅
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:55 PM
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Yes that’s true. My brothers and I have C-PTSD diagnosed by way of years of physical and psychological torture, not even calling it abuse encompassed the things he did according to the people who diagnosed me. I can’t imagine what it would be like to not live every day in a PSTD response. Especially considering I logically know I’m safe! My body and brain is literally incapable of nervous system regulation. It’s all I’ve ever known. That being said I’m extremely high functioning for someone with…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:49 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:21 PM
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I am ok! Lots of therapy helped me process and find peace :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:17 PM
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I saw a TikTok of a man salivating over his ankles the other day inspired by a photo sitting at a court hearing exposing ankle skin.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:15 PM
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He threatened to kill us a lot. That’s why I call if psychopathic because that is like a tame story about my dad, and that post reminded me of something he’d do. Lots of abuse. About a month before he died he bought a gun and he was going to kill us. I have no doubt if he didn’t die when he did, none of us would be alive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 07:07 PM
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Same. My dad actually used to tell his affair partners that me, my brothers, and my mom all died in a house fire. And he did this for years. When he died two of his girlfriends who didn’t know about the other one or his living family showed up to the funeral. I think they only knew about the funeral because the morning he was killed it was all over the local news. It was a funeral to remember that’s for sure. It’s psychopath behavior from my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 06:53 PM
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It’s so fucked up but it also made me laugh a lil tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 06:43 PM
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Reminds me of this comment posted here yesterday <image> Diabolical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 06:35 PM
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No, not at all. I think if anything they are more likely to be a victim of something they are not aware of, but not all get to that level, usually it’s the more vulnerable. There’s nothing wrong is being of fan of someone you relate to/aspire to/ or simply enjoy watching.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:18 PM
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I hope you make money, I don’t see anything wrong with that at all, you seem kind and deserving. There’s no way you’d be anything like the people I’m referencing. I love TikTok most of the time tbh. I think it’s so fun and harmless for most people who use it and even make a little cash.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:10 PM
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That’s probably because you’re a kind and intelligent person
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:07 PM
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Hookers
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:47 PM
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Affiliate deals (your data isn’t safe), equity deals (people have no idea how badly this is affecting the ability for young people to become entrepreneurs), FTC loopholes, evergreen sales funnels, lead mining, leveraging data, preying on the vulnerable, predatory sales tactics, money laundering, the contractual agreement terms for appearances and interviews, lack of integrity in so many other things I can’t say, etc Fun fact to add: Something a lot of people don’t know: anytime you see someone g…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:46 PM
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Everyone. Coke is causal, it’s like the appetizer. People basically treat it the same as weed.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:26 PM
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Wolf of Wall Street behaviors
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:20 PM
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Small creators are always the best creators. It’s when they start leveraging certain aspects of influencing most people aren’t aware of on the backend that I begin to hate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:13 PM
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I have worked with or been exposed (my boss is extremely well connected) to basically every major celeb/influencer you could think of including politicians/world leaders. You’d have to ask me specific questions that I could answer that wouldn’t break my NDAs.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:11 PM
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My maintenance guy had to replace my garbage disposal a couple of months ago and he is always super happy but I could tell he was getting pissed replacing it. I’m impressed you did that
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:05 PM
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My mom is like that. She is her happiest walking around the house/yard fixing things and then whenever I visit she immediately takes me on a tour of her work. It’s awesome.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:02 PM
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I’ve worked with a lot of popular influencers and they are the worst/my least favorite people on the planet. The entire influencing industry is astoundingly bizarre and gross behind the scenes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 03:00 PM
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Understandable. It’s really cool that you do that though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 12:15 PM
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Omg yes to a clothes line ☀️. How long do you usually stay in the US? Do you stay here to see family or another reason? I’ve never been to Thailand but I would absolutely love to go someday. I bet it’s easy to get homesick. I travel a lot for work and have spent months in other countries for projects and there’s always little things that make me homesick for the first month or so that I don’t expect to miss as much as I do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 12:08 PM
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I find cleaning therapeutic a lot of times tbh, I like it too. I need to get a bit better at cooking, he’s definitely better the better cook. Have you ever sent your laundry out to a laundromat for a fluff and fold? It’s usually pretty inexpensive (like $1 a lb in the US) and so worth it for anyone who doesn’t enjoy it imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:47 AM
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My bf just started doing it, I never knew it was something I wanted before. He keeps his cars strictly immaculate and he just added mine to his rotation without me asking. I’ve never had someone do that for me before but I find it so adorable. What’s your fav chore and least fav chore?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:40 AM
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I really appreciate a man who will take care of my car maintenance. It’s so thoughtful. Making sure I have gas, oil changes, gets it washed for me bi-weekly. I will happily exchange this for doing all of the laundry and all of the grocery shopping, or any chore really that he doesn’t like doing that I can take care of that makes his life easier. I hate car maintenance. I love laundry though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 11:11 AM
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A bit older, strangely intelligent, broad shoulders, taller/bigger than me (I’m 5ft/petite), nice set of man hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 10:39 AM
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I take back my statement after reading the red pill guy in the false accusations thread use his dead ex to manipulate women. I responded by trauma dumping. Truly psychotic. I’ll be waiting in anticipation for the project you’ve been mentioning drop.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:39 AM
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I used to have a purple flair but I changed it because I felt like blue was way more accurate. Maybe I should claim periwinkle pill for better representation. But truthfully I had no idea what any of the pills meant or what their purpose was until I started reading this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 06:58 AM
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Thank you for explaining. And for BP that makes sense, I agree with RP users sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 06:44 AM
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Do you know what white pill means? I’ve seen that flair here a couple of times.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 06:34 AM
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Is that unconditional forgiveness and loyalty? Or do they have limits? It’s interesting because women are conditioned to prioritize men and the needs of others over our own from a very young age (at least I was and many women I’ve known were as well). When you mention men’s conditioning of unconditional love for women do you mean providing for and protection? Could you please elaborate on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 05:50 AM
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No, you’re right.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:47 AM
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How do you define unconditional love?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:43 AM
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You make male sexuality sound like torture.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:37 AM
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No they aren’t equal severity’s and I’m so tired of people saying this. It’s a slap in the face to victims of sexual assault.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:18 PM
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That is awesome! 🩰 👑💐
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:50 AM
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You forgot the “or else” threat of femicide
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:40 PM
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They don’t. That doesn’t stop men from giving advice. When men ask for advice it’s in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:35 PM
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Men’s advice to women here is even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 08:26 PM
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Yes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/25 09:25 PM
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Because that’s how men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 12:40 AM
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Yes they do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 11:56 PM
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Your generalizations don’t carry more weight just because they favor you.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:33 AM
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Reliance on validation from their partner. A typical method is to make her insecure enough to stay.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 01:27 AM
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I think they call themselves dating coaches these days because the entire point of influencer pyramid schemes is to sell someone on the idea that they can be just like the men they worship. Each course, book, webinar, or podcast is marketed strategically to lead them to the idea if they buy or engage with X they will get Y. And if/when they don’t get what’s promised they shift gears and give them a reason to blame women so that they never lose their influence over the men who fail because the me…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:46 AM
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Because they haven’t learned yet to watch what men do rather than listen to what they say because men’s words alone have zero value. And sometimes their actions as well because men will falsely present themselves until they have enough emotional leverage and can easily gaslight their partner by manipulating her vulnerabilities. Men need to be vetted heavily as they have perfected the art of how much emotional investment they need to show in order to allow them to leverage their weaponized incomp…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/25 12:01 AM
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He’s really deep into TRP. He buys all the courses and is a “dating coach” on the side. Sometimes he coaches other guys on the live who come up to him because they notice what he’s doing. Then they double up so they can more easily approach groups and do the same thing to an entire group of women which singles out if any of those women are interested vs doing it 1 on 1. It’s a time saver. He also does experiments. He once dedicated a weekend pretending to be deaf with his friend translating sign…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 11:19 PM
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There’s a Red Pill guy on TikTok who goes live showing himself cold approaching all over San Diego. His formula is this: Approaches making a comment about something he noticed about them. His goal is to feed into her emotions as it gives him leverage to incite an emotional response in return. The responses tell him what she’s actually feeling vs saying. (Because women are emotional, AWALT, etc) If they respond positively to what he says (instead of immediately shutting him down) he’ll make a sli…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 10:38 PM
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A lawyer would know that what you describe would be extortion which is illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:26 PM
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It doesn’t change anything I said. He is innocent until proven otherwise, 10 million means his lawyers believe her claims have backing evidence that could prove he is liable. He isn’t making that decision without the advice of legal council who have better awareness of the case and the evidence against him than any of us do.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:01 PM
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Knowledge problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:52 PM
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She released texts confronting him and he acknowledged that he assaulted her. Like I said, it goes both ways here. Which is why I doubt it’ll go to trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:47 PM
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It’s too high an offer for reputation for a celebrity who isn’t in the political sphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:45 PM
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We don’t know all the evidence yet. On either side. What has been released is a tactic used to encourage settlement on both sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:38 PM
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In the legal world, you don’t offer someone 10 million in exchange for a non-disparagement and a release of claims if they don’t have substantial evidence backing them. It is extremely rare to get that kind of offer, just look at how much less politicians have paid for silence. If this was worth 10 million to Sharpe to settle out of court it’ll be very interesting to see the evidence if this goes to trial. I doubt it’ll get that far considering she has Buzbee.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:36 PM
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No, I don’t think demonizing it is necessary as long as the person joining with that intent is respectful. I’ve never used dating apps I prefer to meet organically. I may be an outlier here but my first LTR was a cold approach in a bar/restaurant. My second and current LTR was a lukewarm approach. You never know who you’re going to meet so I don’t think blocking the option is beneficial. I’ve known women who joined hobby groups with the intention of meeting someone too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 08:38 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:10 AM
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Yes, at scale with secular NGOs. That is a self proclaimed title.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:24 AM
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I can promise you faith based NGOs are rampant with corruption.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:00 AM
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Nonprofits are often very corrupt. Especially when they aren’t relying on grants and instead utilizing big donors and the accelerator model to funnel smaller nonprofits forward. What you describe is not as common these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 12:53 AM
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Unattractive self proclaimed nice guys are usually way worse than Chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 11:04 PM
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My experience is there are a lot of men who get very insecure when their partner is more successful. But fair to say it isn’t just geared towards women in this case, their successful male friends make them feel insecure as well. I have a very rare and lucrative work history and unique perspective because I work with the richest of the rich. If I’m flying private with my boss and colleagues and staying at the four seasons all over the world I need a man who is successful in his own right so who a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:46 PM
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I was adding to your comment not correcting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:23 PM
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And she was a forensic psychologist. Her only job was to assess if he was mentally competent to stand trial or make a plea. She’s checking to see his awareness of what he is being accused of by ruling out mental illness to the degree of psychosis or any other disorder that would alter his ability to make decisions during the crime which could change the motive and any trial or plea deal afterwards. She triggers to check his cognitive capacity. Weird how many people missed that in the other threa…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:19 PM
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Yeah, agree but it’s not really that difficult to maintain an immaculate house (unless you have kids who aren’t old enough for chores). Don’t make huge messes and clean as you go. I’ve known a lot of men who are immaculate who don’t spend a ton of time they just have couple of things they do for daily and weekly maintenance.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 10:07 PM
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He didn’t need to bring a knife. It was premeditated murder.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:50 PM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 09:41 PM
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What is reasonable in terms of chores to you? What level of cleanliness is acceptable? I’m asking as an immaculate person who is aware that not everyone else cares as much as me.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:58 PM
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Which chores are unnecessary?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 08:12 PM
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Majority of men do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:37 AM
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You don’t know who I know or how I formed my opinion. Being a hypocrite doesn’t grant you any validity for your dumb self-centered claims.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:46 AM
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I’ve seen women and gay men say “serving cunt” or “cunty” as a positive descriptor. Straight men don’t say that tho cuz they are penis centered
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 01:10 AM
3

I agree with you :)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:48 AM
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Self awareness isn’t your strong suit.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:40 AM
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I am not berating men, I am telling you some men aren’t keeping up with women being their own people outside of their relationships with men. Men’s needs or opinions are not more accurate or important than our own by default.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:29 AM
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Yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:23 AM
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Gender roles were about more than survival, they were about control. Survival did not require women to be legally considered “property”. Survival did not require women to be forced into providing free labor for mens benefit under the guise of gender roles. That part of your response is an example of main character syndrome. You asked women to answer a question and then you minimized and misinterpreted what I said without noticing, I said both genders do this, but men don’t notice it the same way…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 12:21 AM
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Says the guy who cheated on his wife and then acted like a victim when she divorced him.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:28 PM
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Or that men are selfish babies
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:22 PM
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SOME men have main character syndrome without realizing that women do as well now that we have rights to be independent. But for some reason SOME men demonize women for doing so while justifying themselves because it’s been ingrained in our society for such a long time which created an imbalance in their capacity to empathize and limited their self awareness to a degree that they cannot see their own selfishness and hypocrisy. They want to be the hero and the victim in every scenario. A lot of m…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:09 PM
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“Baddies”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 10:51 PM
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Just to shine light on this. Her only job was to assess if he was mentally competent to stand trial or make a plea. She’s checking to see his awareness of what he is being accused of by ruling out mental illness to the degree of psychosis or any other disorder that would alter his ability to make decisions during the crime which could change the motive and any trial or plea deal afterwards. She triggers him to check his cognitive capacity.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:51 PM
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That isn’t answering my question. Do you have a source to support that the older single moms aren’t sharing a “baby daddy”?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:25 AM
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How do you know? Do you have a source for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:12 AM
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That must be why red states have the highest abortion rates as well. I’d be happy for my taxes to stop enabling conservatives who feel entitled to handouts from the people they criticize.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 01:06 AM
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Red State welfare programs are 100% funded by Blue State taxpayers. Red States use more welfare than anyone JSYK.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 12:30 AM
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They aren’t equal in the ability to grow a fetus and birth a child. Which is why men can’t get abortions.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 06:36 AM
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Men don’t get pregnant. Abortion benefits men and women. Equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/25 05:59 AM
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A lot of wealthy couples have these arrangements as well. For example the wife benefits from looking the other way. I’ve worked for a lot of wealthy people, some famous, most are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 08:23 PM
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They pay for discretion.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 07:45 PM
3

You don’t have to respond you know. The thread is a question for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 04:47 AM
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Worried the friend has a bigger penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 02:38 AM
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I bet you have horrible hand writing
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/25 12:16 AM
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Guys actually won’t tell their male friends that they do this. There’s a lot of things men will say and do when other men aren’t around.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:57 PM
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“When you’re just friends with women, they tend to use you as an emotional dumping ground” Just so you know this is not gender specific, men do this to women as well because you guys won’t do it for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 08:27 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 10:15 AM
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Is a phrase that basically means something is one in the same to call attention to hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:59 AM
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AWALT = All women are like that. Red pillers believe all women are hypergamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 09:42 AM
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The duality of having a penis. What brings them the most pleasure is the root of their own suffering.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 05:47 AM
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LMAO
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 04:21 AM
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I don’t like when someone tries to sell me. I can spot the techniques from a mile away and it’s annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:31 AM
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I think secure RP men sometimes use submissive as a synonym for respect. I feel like respect is the biggest thing for a lot of men in general. I think that insecure men want submissive women because it feeds into their front of masking their fragile masculinity. If you need someone to be less so you can feel like you’re more you probably should learn to manage your own emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 03:04 AM
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I am well aware of how many men I’ve met and how many of those men were safe. The point is that I do not trust freely, it is earned. I have done the work to discern the difference in therapy. Do not project what I think or the severity of my experience for the sake of your feelings. You have absolutely no clue of the complexity of my experiences or how I see the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:30 AM
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He wasn’t the only man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/25 12:13 AM
2

You’re still deflecting instead of answering the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:47 PM
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Why are you deflecting? You’re being a hypocrite and just proved my initial point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:40 PM
2

So he raped her, right? Yes or no?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:29 PM
1

Thanks for providing an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 10:19 PM
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To be fair you are a huge victim of a propaganda yourself. You also spread it consistently. I’m not really sure you grasp the difference between propaganda and what you personally agree with. Didn’t you vote for Trump? Your opinion doesn’t have a lot of merit when you voted for someone found guilty in a court of law of SA.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 09:48 PM
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I think one thing that’s important to consider is a lot of this comes from the men we are closest to. For example, my stepdad. When you have those experiences from men you should be able to trust it has a big impact on how we see the world around us. Add in statistics and the fact that most women do not report their SA because of how they are treated when they do it becomes very obvious why women would choose bear.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 08:04 PM
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Men ITT attempting to gaslight women just proving women’s point. Several of you cannot resist telling on yourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 07:31 PM
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Therapists tell men and women that their emotions are theirs to deal with. They give them tools to identify those emotions and ways to process and communicate them. Some people really don’t like to hear that in a relationship dynamic. Usually the person who doesn’t want to continue therapy is the one who doesn’t want to take that advice and gets very upset at the suggestion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 05:45 AM
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When do you notice you get anxious? All day every day, just at night, before work, etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/25 04:35 AM
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Your point about them being negative is interesting. I appreciate that perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 03:19 AM
2

Stand up comedy is really in a league of its own IMO. Extremely hard to do, even harder to do well.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:33 AM
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I’ve heard a lot of people correlate trauma and the way it develops humor. I definitely think there’s validity in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:32 AM
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Yes I think we definitely agree there. That’s funny, my brothers tell me I remind them of Elaine Benes when I say certain things lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:29 AM
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Yes, I think this is a great point. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:23 AM
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I think a lot of women probably agree with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:21 AM
1

I understand what you’re saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:16 AM
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I mean, why fake laughter? It’s not mean to not think something is funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 02:08 AM
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What trained you to cater in that way? Would you mind elaborating?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:56 AM
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I do not want to dismiss your opinion, I was genuinely curious. Everything you said makes sense, regardless if I agree or not. Thank you for answering.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:46 AM
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I love this answer and I agree with you. Thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:40 AM
4

This is a great answer thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:38 AM
2

I agree, that is a good point.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:36 AM
1

That is a helpful perspective thank you.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:33 AM
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What you described as the male humor process is my humor as well. Why do you think women dislike solving the puzzle?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:31 AM
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Men seem to also like funny women, I like funny men because I’m funny. I like the ability to banter back and forth that way. I like frequent mutual laughter.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:28 AM
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You inspired my question actually. Would you be willing to elaborate on what I asked in the OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:23 AM
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I understand your point about male comedians, especially the greats. What about IRL? Have you been around any women you think are funny?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:21 AM
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Do you think this answer also pertains to my question about why some men seem to be quick to want to neg a woman that others find funny?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:18 AM
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That’s a good point, men seem to have less of a filter more often.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:15 AM
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Maybe but I can acknowledge someone is funny without personally finding them funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:14 AM
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That is a good point
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/25 01:06 AM
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I know it’s not supposed to really poke you. If it’s poking you a lot maybe mention to your gf to check it with her doctor. They will check if they need to cut the string a little or move it for her. It’s supposed to wrap up around the cervix to the side. It’s very common for it to get hit or settle in the wrong position when it’s healing after the trauma of insertion. A lot of women need it adjusted a couple of weeks after they get it put in and it’s healed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:37 AM
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He said she loved the “freedom to bounce” 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 01:00 AM
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His pelvis can stimulate the clit because he can insert his penis all the way comfortably. For example if a girl is on top and she starts grinding rather than going up and down she’s doing that to stimulate her clit. A guy can do something similar when he’s on top. That’s why we tell you to learn to move your hips and not just jackhammer away.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:33 AM
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You will love it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:12 AM
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Do you have a laundromat near you that offers fluff and folds? It’s usually around a dollar a pound and they’ll wash and fold it for you. A lot of them will pick up and drop off too for a bit more $.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/25 12:03 AM
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Yes there is small wire string that hangs down, that’s how it’s removed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:24 PM
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And not have an IUD. Very important.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 11:14 PM
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Then you don’t believe in due process. That is authoritarianism.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:47 PM
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Giving birth rips your vagina open. Ever hear of the “husband stitch”? Yeah that’s because women tear open, sometimes severely. Women aren’t allowed to leave the hospital until they poop after giving birth. Sometimes they tear all the way down to the asshole.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:43 PM
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Do you believe in due process when accused of a crime?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 10:35 PM
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Did they discover that men are violent rapey sluts the same way?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 09:33 PM
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Learn to use your hips. The other questions aren’t worth answering, you guys just argue no matter how many times we tell you the answers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 08:52 PM
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Didn’t TRP coin the phrase AWALT? All women hypergamous and all men are violent rapey sluts is what redpill says about men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:31 AM
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I’m curious your thoughts - In terms of living in a rape culture, what about the way male victims of rape are often minimized? Do you think that could be a factor contributing to the argument that we live in a rape culture?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 01:05 AM
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Is Pete Hegseth unique?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/25 12:45 AM
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Religion does not pertain to only rural areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:50 PM
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It very much exists, look at churches and the amount of ministers and priests who rape children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:48 PM
1

Do you believe there is power in the choices we make?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 10:34 PM
2

Repeating what I said in your thread that got removed: Personally, these video games really bother me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:48 PM
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No, that’s how men see other men. Thats why men police other men for being simps or betas when they show kindness to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:35 PM
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I love makeup it is so fun 💄💁‍♀️❣️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 09:59 AM
2

What age range was the other study? Take a look.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 05:21 AM
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That’s good. I think it’s really important to know that option exists and can help protect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:28 AM
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Does TRP teach men how to effectively execute a prenup that will stand?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 03:05 AM
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No, he’s using an old convenient study. A study published in Feb of this year that found men are 7 times more likely to leave their wives when fallen ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 02:35 AM
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Are women part of this society or no? Does what they want matter or no? Why can’t women choose what they want for themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 01:09 AM
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TRP tells you what to believe, to be true RP it is not left to your interpretation. That is purple or blue pill. TRP is an influencer pyramid scheme, it is grounded on manipulation to keep you tuning in, engaged, and of course your endless supply of free advertising to their target audience. TRP cannot be a philosophy by definition as it has influenced politics globally and drastically in the US towards fascism, another ideology using corresponding theories. Women’s rights are in danger. Men her…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/25 12:05 AM
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What bad decisions do they make by walking away?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:32 PM
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I disagree, when people don’t walk away they make bad decisions to try to fix the relationship instead. They’ll get married, have a kid, expose those kids to unhealthy relationships, those kids will repeat the pattern in their own relationships, etc. People should be encouraged to vet better with an understanding that sometimes that means walking away before you make life altering mistakes.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:23 PM
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And I asked him to tell me since he prescribes to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:43 PM
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Be more specific, you’re being vague on purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 07:42 PM
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Why not? Don’t you know what you believe in? Isn’t TRP about “truth”? Just like Neo in the Matrix - you swallowed the red one? What was in it?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:47 PM
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You have the flair, you tell me why you chose it. Make your case for TRP as a philosophy and I’ll tell you why you’re wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 06:07 PM
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How do you know for a fact?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 03:25 PM
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You’re describing a visual (male) turn on.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 02:44 PM
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You keep making it worse 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:10 PM
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Who does bouncing feel good for? You or her? You’ve never had a girl cum on top and it shows. It’s like when men talk about how a woman is close to an orgasm so they speed up. Every woman reading those comments knows what that means lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 01:07 PM
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No it didn’t, you gave it away when you described how freeing it was to “bounce” on it
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:45 PM
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Never talked about it with any of my friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 11:06 AM
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And when it’s not about your own dick, it’s definitely about Chad’s dick. You guys will get so hot and BOTHERED coming up with fake scenarios revolving around another mans dick. All riled up and emotional.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:55 AM
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No, it shapes your entire personalities and you project that onto women. Most of you are begging women to care about your dicks as much as you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 10:32 AM
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Men care about penis size more than women. Men talk about and think about penises way more than women. You’re absolutely obsessed with dicks in a way women are not. Vagina canals come in all kinds of different shapes and sizes, just like dicks, which means women genuinely have different preferences based on the curve and structure of their own sexual organs, not just yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 09:26 AM
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No, ideology is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 08:16 AM
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Do you feel better if you win or lose? If you say it doesn’t matter, why did you mention you play competitive sports? You’re competing, why? What does discipline do for you and why is it important?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:50 AM
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Why do you play them? What’s the benefit for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:26 AM
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Yes there is, because if you didn’t you wouldn’t care to participate in them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:20 AM
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You aren’t stomping out emotions. Neurotransmitters are signaling your brain when you have emotions. When you don’t process them they aren’t going away, you’re just creating distance from them tricking yourself into believing you’re in control. The more you distance yourself from emotions the more time you’ll spend trying to understand them (which you’re always doing on here) and eventually it hinders your ability to emotionally connect to YOURSELF & OTHERS. It can also lead to anxiety or depres…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/25 12:18 AM
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Violence is influenced by intense emotions.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 11:37 PM
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Do you know the difference between empathy and sympathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/25 05:57 PM
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In the 90s people didn’t walk around with a small computer in the palm of their hand 24/7. iPhones changed things drastically.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 11:05 PM
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It is important for women to be aware of what men who partake in the manosphere are saying. It doesn’t pertain to every man, but enough men to know once you recognize TRP speak it isn’t very uncommon. It has amplified since the election IMO. I mean the SAVE act passed in congress yesterday. I am not saying it is all men, but for women it is relevant to know what red pill is teaching men about women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 08:45 PM
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So men should take accountability and choose better? Sounds good to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/25 07:25 PM
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No that’s very helpful, thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:39 AM
1

What causes addiction to develop in your expert opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:37 AM
2

Could you please elaborate on the statement above?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:23 AM
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Are you referring to transference?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 11:17 AM
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Healthy porn consumption and porn addiction aren’t the same thing. You’re saying it doesn’t exist because you have a healthy relationship with it. And yes, there are men who have lost everything to porn addiction. The shaming you’re referencing in your first bullet point is as harmful as the gatekeeping of addiction you’re doing in your own argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:46 AM
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I’m glad you recovered. You’re still incorrect. Addiction is a disease, you know that. The symptoms vary.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:18 AM
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There are a lot of flaws within the DSM6 in diagnosing various mental health disorders that are widely known to therapists. It is not the best or only method necessary for diagnosis in terms of treatment - it is what insurance companies enforce for billing purposes which keeps it relevant. Porn consumption can be an addiction and it is treated by many mental health professionals as the symptoms are more complicated than the vice. It is disingenuous to say otherwise if you are not a mental health…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:03 AM
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I know a lot of people who died because of the people who minimized the importance of masking and staying home. That’s my complaint. The bitching definitely wasn’t from women alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:53 AM
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Why did you mention you’re blonde?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 01:13 AM
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You should brush up on some history.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 12:20 AM
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No I’m teasing you. Bitch is a term for a female dog (at least in the US).
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:54 AM
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U calling me a bitch?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:48 AM
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I love my dog so much. She makes my day better everyday. 💕🐶🦴
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 07:39 AM
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Yes I addressed that in detail in another thread earlier today. Looks like we agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 04:27 AM
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How have your sinuses been? If you’re not biting down do you feel any tenderness in your jaw? Have you noticed your teeth feeling loose, bigger gaps when you floss, or more crowding? Please do rinse with warm salt water a couple of times a day for a few days. Sometimes it is just a gum irritation that feels more serious than it is. It’s common for food to get underneath the gum and can feel like something is really wrong but it’s really just irritating or exposing the nerve more than usual. Espe…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 04:04 AM
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If you have a way to go to urgent care please go get antibiotics. Is the tooth sensitive to cold? What about sensitivity to warmth?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:41 AM
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I know you have one. Let me guess, legalize prostitution?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 03:38 AM
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Here’s an example from this sub yesterday. <image>
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/25 01:34 AM
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No, it’s just very common for body issues to be a learned behavior. It’s usually taught by someone close.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:02 PM
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Does your mom have body issues?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:00 PM
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I hear you. I think we need more funding and targeted research for mental health support for men specifically that is also accessible and more importantly - attractive TO men. More male therapists are also crucial IMO. Men who have been told since they were young boys to shove down their emotions need options that target the way boys are socialized. I’ve had both male and female therapists, in my experience men need men in those roles because it is very common for women (especially older) to tre…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 07:44 PM
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Basically it sounds like men consider all of that easier than going to therapy.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 08:04 AM
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Have you tried volunteering? You might have some luck there.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 04:25 AM
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Your femicide fantasies are pathetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 03:38 AM
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I wish men would stop treating men like victims because women won’t do what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/25 02:13 AM
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I was hoping it was really 318 items. There’s nothing wrong with not wanting to date single moms.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 05:29 AM
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Can we see your checklist?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 05:18 AM
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What she said wasnt narcissistic, your response to what she said was.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 04:59 AM
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The biology of it for one thing. The others are more personal to my childhood/parents and relate to what I’ve learned in years of therapy dealing with my own feelings and trust issues to not repeat the pattern. That being said I do NOT want kids 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/25 12:29 AM
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No it was probably over 6 months ago but there were a few perspectives in that thread that I hadn’t heard or considered that made me think about it in a different way.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 11:53 PM
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I didn’t always think this, there was actually a thread a while ago on this subreddit that changed my mind. I understand where many women are coming from too. I just think it’s a good example of how healthy relationships require empathy to go both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 11:38 PM
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I would think that he wants know for certain for his own wellbeing, which is understandable. If men got pregnant, I would want one too.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 11:13 PM
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It starts years before women hit puberty, I think that distinction is important to mention in these conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 09:03 PM
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I have experience dating older men. I prefer to date a bit older. You’re one of the ones to stay away from.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 06:26 AM
7

Which is exactly what he does whenever his younger girlfriend disagrees with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 06:24 AM
6

Giving yourself away a bit here aren’t you James?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 06:12 AM
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Pretty sure men spend more time categorizing, thinking, and arguing about dick than women do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 01:48 AM
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Are you asking if men are humans? Would you ask this question at work?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 01:04 AM
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What’s your argument here? All you’re saying is you don’t understand how taxes, juries, or statistics work.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 10:52 PM
4

Irrelevant strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 04:14 AM
7

You’re describing 2 choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:51 PM
15

By taking accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:36 AM
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Sounds like those men need to choose better
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 10:05 AM
-1

That’s why the downplaying is a problem. One of the reasons anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 08:11 AM
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Men who downplay the physical and psychological effects of pregnancy, childbirth, and postpartum don’t deserve kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 07:06 AM
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Remember when a bunch of men freaked out because of the Barbie movie?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/25 03:10 AM
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My dad was like this and I know exactly what you’re talking about. I never see anyone else mention it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:18 AM
3

No defense needed. There’s a relevant duality there.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:10 AM
2

Freudian slip hehe
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 11:01 AM
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Yes I don’t mind being approached as long it’s respectful. I met my first LTR boyfriend at a bar/restaurant. We made eye contact a few times and he came over to our table introduced himself said I was gorgeous and asked if he could take me to dinner. As far as openers I really don’t think I’ll be helpful there. I just appreciate when guys are genuine. I’ve never and wouldn’t use a dating app.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 10:00 AM
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I haven’t and I wouldn’t ever go to either by myself. Men still approach even when you’re with friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 09:31 AM
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Every single woman here knows exactly what you guys mean when you say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 08:22 AM
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👀
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 06:16 AM
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I’m glad he included his rating was on a scale of 1-10 incase anyone got confused
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 05:35 AM
2

Yeah I get what you’re saying and I agree
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:50 AM
1

There are different types of narcissism. The user above you is correct. Covert narcissists are extremely hard to spot. Women with narcissism are more likely to be covert.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 03:30 AM
2

That makes sense, thank you for explaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:50 AM
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Do you want your partner to understand you?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 01:04 AM
12

I think a lot of men would have more success if they understood the importance of relatability the way you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 08:57 PM
10

Women gave men life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 09:28 AM
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1 symptom does not qualify to meet the criteria of diagnosis and ingenious to argue. The study has unexplained irregularities and does not factor in substance use. Not everyone has PTSD but they’d think they did if they listened to the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 07:45 AM
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Curious what responsibilities would you want a woman to have in your ideal partnership?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:49 AM
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I’ve been surprised it hasn’t inspired any debates here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 05:24 AM
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The woman is responsible for all the accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 04:33 AM
1

I’m starting to notice a trend with you 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/25 03:39 AM
2

That’s because men will focus on criticizing a fat woman who’s dated a fit man instead of uplifting a guy who could probably use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 08:00 PM
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It does when you consider men do exactly what you’re accusing women of doing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:21 PM
3

Your response says otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 07:15 PM
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No I’m saying it’s benefitted from feminism via social acceptance
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 11:26 AM
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I assume men play video games because they enjoy them.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 03:06 AM
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Can you address what I actually said instead of a deflection? Do you notice this or do you think it is my perception?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:55 AM
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I didn’t call you a name it just seems rather hypocritical to call someone’s sexual boundaries exaggerated or neurotic while promoting something that crosses sexual boundaries for others which could easily be considered an inappropriate influence of feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:50 AM
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This is interesting because I’ve observed a lot of men that act like they are owned respect from women simply for being men, but when it comes to men respecting other men it has to be earned.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:37 AM
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You’re literally in a sex cult that tries to appeal to vulnerable men on this very subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 02:16 AM
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A lot of women are told to avoid men in the military and police officers as partners for that specific reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/25 01:35 AM
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You didn’t explain it. I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:25 PM
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Why were they posting images, videos, and even live streaming themselves raping their mothers, sisters, daughters, and partners in the chat? Why were there so many confessions about who and how they raped their victim for other men to do the same? Why were they posting links to purchase sedatives for their victims disguised as hair products? Defending this says a lot about you.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:37 PM
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They mean women are responsible for men’s bad behavior and they deserve to be punished for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 06:26 PM
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OP originally posted this as “women” not “gen z” are allergic to accountability lol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 11:27 AM
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Is that how you feel or how she feels?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 10:26 AM
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Why restrict abortion if the result equates to more of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 09:04 AM
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Is it just me or is that mass censorship campaign been doing a really bad job?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 08:51 AM
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Women are bleeding out in their cars as evidenced by states with abortion restrictions. I wonder why there’d be an uptick in those numbers when you could just die of sepsis in your third trimester instead, don’t you?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:43 AM
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Banning abortion has this consequence, it’s not a fun fact it’s a very well known fact. Which is why it’s never been about the fetus and always been about controlling women. Abortion will happen regardless but there will be more women who die from them or lack there of which consequently kills the fetus inside of her that pro-lifers claim to care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:37 AM
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Yeah I see it all the time, several times a week. You also reminded me about that telegram chat room with over 70,000 men sharing tips about raping women that made the news. Feel like there’s been a lot of it in the past few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 07:23 AM
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Because it’s mostly based on manipulation with the bulk of TRPers. That’s why there’s so much anger expressed towards women’s preferences. If you manipulate someone to get what you want you can control them by enhancing their self doubt over and over again. When they say accountability they mean punishment. They mean devalue. It often verges on emotional abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/25 12:44 AM
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I use a duvet I just never thought of it as rendering the sheets unnecessary but you make a valid point here. I love the idea of two separate duvets I’m so doing that. I do: Mattress cover, Fitted sheet, Regular sheet, Duvet, Throw blanket for aesthetics only tbh, Pillows, Throw pillows, I thought most people did this lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 08:57 AM
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No sheets? I’ve never thought about this but my bed is probably what you’re talking about lol. I do wash/change out my decorative pillows though
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 08:33 AM
1

How so?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/25 08:10 AM
4

Pretty sure most women are well aware.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 08:36 AM
4

Deal :)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 09:45 PM
3

Can you be more specific about what women most often miss when men do express emotions? And ideally what would be the best way to respond?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 09:41 PM
5

Resolving PTSD is not that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 08:27 PM
4

That makes sense! You’re just a guy who values and practices proper theatre etiquette. I genuinely hope you find your person :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 01:59 AM
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Plus having an iud which a lot of women do makes it even worse
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 12:28 AM
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Do you have any other preferences that would be nice but aren’t necessarily deal breakers you’d be open to sharing?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 12:23 AM
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This tracks with your threads about how you don’t consider your future wife as part of your family lol
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 11:44 PM
1

Do you think women becoming more educated and working and even out earning men could lead to that?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 01:41 AM
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I do think women have superior critical thinking skills but I think that the ways in which men are raised within society has a significant part in that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 08:03 PM
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It’s called critical thought
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 07:49 PM
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I don’t understand your logic.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/25 07:47 PM
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No he’s not.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 01:31 AM
2

That makes sense, thank you for answering!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 10:45 PM
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which test?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 08:19 AM
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What’s your IQ?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 05:32 AM
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I encourage it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 09:00 PM
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Men want women more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:05 PM
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Seems to be for some women, I think there is a mixture from what I see from women I’ve known. For men I do think casual sex is the most predominant validator based on what men are saying. They want the instant desire that some women may get from simply posting a photo online. If that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 08:22 PM
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I don’t understand why you’re using that as a retort in comparison to medial care in your earlier comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 09:01 AM
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If you’re working why should I have to pay for it? I already pay taxes that fund the majority of welfare programs in red states.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:59 AM
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Some women are, I am not. I do not have casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:07 AM
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Because men have lower standards for casual sex from women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:03 AM
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Because they are both men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:01 AM
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Because they are both men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 02:01 AM
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This argument doesn’t make sense when you consider the fact that the financial abortion argument just means everyone else is taxed to pay for your kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/25 01:08 AM
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Because you are responsible for the decisions you make and if you’re worried about getting someone pregnant wear a condom or don’t have sex. Just like women should be on birth control to reduce their own risk and not fuck men who feel oppressed by rubber and believe they don’t have any responsibility for their decisions if they don’t like the outcome when post nut clarity hits. Your argument makes no sense because you’re suggesting men are somehow less responsible because they do not get pregnan…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 07:42 PM
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Men have 100% control to not enter a woman I don’t understand your argument
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/25 10:00 AM
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Majority of “self help” influencers are just running pyramid schemes it’s definitely not specific to TRP they all use the same formula.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:06 PM
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Samesies
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 10:04 PM
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No but I heard there’s a workshop you can buy where they teach you how to profit and maybe suggest the books you need to buy and maybe in that book they could tell you that you should write your own book and be like them so you buy the workshop that will teach you to write that book and then in that workshop they tell you that you need this program in order to market that book so that you can sell it but in order to sell that book you need to build an online presence which they have a course for…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:57 PM
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Why pay if you do it for free ?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 09:32 PM
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I’m half teasing I think it’s mostly because men shove down their emotions and they express them in the way that makes sense in their minds but not be what’s really going on internally
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:48 PM
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Reminder that TRP is an influencer pyramid scheme which intentionally develops cult-like programming in order for them to profit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:45 PM
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Yes she was raped in a tunnel in a park if I remember correctly. She was ordered to pay him 5 million. I remember reading her book about this before it came out he was actually innocent. Beyond fucked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 12:11 PM
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Must be the logical way of expressing emotions or something 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:57 AM
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When the random percentages and ratios start flying you know a thread is about to get rowdy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 11:38 AM
2

You have to ditch the bear and embrace man
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 08:24 AM
2

Interesting to read the replies here vs the replies in the “choose better” threads
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 07:57 AM
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To be clear I think men should have high standards and I encourage that completely, but I also see a lot of contradictions in your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:39 PM
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Do you think a lot of women going out with their celebrity crush are showing up with a bare face and unblended fabric?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 08:05 PM
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This isn’t the biggest threat to modern feminism if you are even slightly paying attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 10:07 AM
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You don’t see a lack of extra effort in her appearance as a sign she likely doesn’t desire you?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:46 AM
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That is very true as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 11:04 PM
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I read your comments with inflection and small pauses between line breaks and for me it gives your writing character that is hard not to interpret it as an expression that gives a window into how your train of thoughts lead you to your “truth”. I mean it as a compliment btw but it’s hard not to psychoanalyze. Writing seems like a great outlet for you and you’re good at it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:34 PM
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It’s not just scares that happen either. Getting pregnant while using protection isn’t as uncommon as a lot of people assume.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 08:26 PM
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I learned about yaoi from the south park episode about Tweek and Craig It’s one of my fav episodes tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:31 AM
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Here is a diff link if you want to read it when you have time https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jopy.12994
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 10:19 AM
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I am curious your take on this study that I came across a couple of days ago https://www.psypost.org/is-the-bad-boy-appeal-a-myth-study-investigates-dark-triad-attractiveness/
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/25 09:57 AM
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;)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:55 PM
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HARDER
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 10:09 PM
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I apologize I missed your point completely. I’m sure that could have a lot to do with it, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/25 07:40 AM
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Isn’t this how red pill started initially? From what I’ve read here it seems to have morphed over time and become mixed with a lot of black pill but before that it was generally work out, style advice to boost confidence and career focus?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 08:10 PM
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I have never heard of that being the reason. Rape kits are incredibly invasive, painful, and take hours upon hours. I do not think it is a common occurrence for someone to get one without merit. In fact I’d wager most women don’t because they are very expensive and everyone has different trauma responses after those kinds of tragedies. They literally dig out tissue, they can see bruising and tears internally, draw blood work and do a full panel, they are interviewed by hospital staff, case worke…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 07:47 PM
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I feel like men are really good at compartmentalizing who they are in relationships and are very different within the man friend groups. I’ve heard a lot of guys say they were shocked when a friend of theirs was outed as an abuser (legitimately) because they never seen that side of him, he’s not like that around his friends. Part of the abuser trait is usually that they are masters at this. Do you think that is a valid interpretation from what I’ve observed? Genuine question btw.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 06:42 PM
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I know you don’t understand how it works, that is my point. Your comments haven’t negated anything I’ve said. I can garuntee I know more about it than any of you combined.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:54 PM
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You’re in deep my friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:32 PM
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If there was no demand from men, there would be no product. Supply and demand isn’t a difficult concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:27 PM
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Men created the demand for it, for profit, and it works by keeping men angry, for profit. Edit: I do think some RP users here make valid points, but it’s a small margin.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 05:06 PM
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Majority of Red Pillers have no idea what influencer pyramid schemes are or how they work and are actively participating in them because they don’t understand how the money is generated through affiliate contracts as well as all the free marketing they provide to the ideal demographic of lonely men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:58 PM
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Choose better may be valid but the steps to follow are usually wrong here (not always). It’s much deeper than many of you give credit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:50 PM
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I’m pretty sure the backlog of rape kits is rather significant in most states.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:57 PM
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Lilith makes a lot of good and interesting threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:53 PM
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A lot of guys on here criticize women who don’t sleep with these men right away claiming they have so many options that they need to sleep with them to even have a shot because they’ll just move on. Which is the opposite of what you should do with men who have a lot of options as my previous bf and current bf are what a lot of you would name “chad” or whatever. There is so much contradictory advice to suit whatever subjective take that is the wrong advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 03:42 PM
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What do you think the % is?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 12:39 PM
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What research are you referencing?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 10:08 AM
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It bothers you when someone agrees to disagree with you? It sounds like you do that as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:13 AM
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Yes, absolutely.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:52 PM
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I’d be more hurt if it was a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 10:49 PM
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I grew up with one. It’s upsetting and had severe effects on me and my brothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/25 08:32 PM
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Something doesn’t add up here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 01:04 AM
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I think she’s having a manic episode.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:22 PM
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Don’t have one
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:06 AM
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I wish Costco was an option, I had to go with Sprouts.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:52 AM
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Just DoorDashed a rotisserie chicken for my dog and I’d do it again
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:45 AM
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You boys are so silly 💅
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/25 10:47 PM
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U missed a part
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:33 PM
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Something I’d say
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 09:15 PM
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I will do my best so that I can give you a nice reference with merit
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:39 AM
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Idk but I live by the ocean and I’ve been seeing weird stuff in the sky every night since November. I had the same thought but I haven’t been chosen…yet.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 08:27 AM
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( . )( . )
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/25 01:34 AM
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A quote for the history books.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:47 PM
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Choosing better for a lot of women means she’ll choose to be single.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:42 AM
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Do you think his felony fraud case and conviction is valid?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 01:49 AM
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You strike me as the kind of guy who argues in the comments on porn hub
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 11:33 PM
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I do 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 10:13 AM
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I’ve read that a lot of marriage problems start when a couple has their first kid because of this. Some men can become very jealous of the baby when the mother has to devote attention and affection to their newborn.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:36 AM
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Your flair in this interaction 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 09:02 AM
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Well, it’s always been my experience as someone who dates to marry and has never had casual sex with anyone and never would even if I was single.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:39 AM
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Yes it is. It releases endorphins, oxytocin, toxins, stress, and soothes the nervous system. It’s a chemical release. It’s hard for me to cry actually, I stuffed it down for a long time and it’s still rare (suppressed due to severe trauma by way or torture to be real). That’s the only reason I ever looked into it. But I won’t argue with your personal stance.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:32 AM
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Crying is good for you!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 08:13 AM
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If you don’t mind me asking, do you feel like you’re able to be vulnerable with her?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 04:41 AM
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Men wait for the women they actually want.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 03:10 AM
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Well you didn’t deserve any of the abuse you’ve suffered, and I’m so sorry you experienced it. If I’m inferring your reaction correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:28 AM
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Why are you responding so aggressively to my comment? I have brothers, my comment wasn’t exclusive to what women experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 02:13 AM
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Please allow me to expand on the way it is perceived by someone who disagrees. When someone is insecure they rely on the validation of others to supplement their ego, their lack of confidence needs to be fed somehow. Typically more often than not, they don’t work on themselves. They will try to convince others that they aren’t all that wonderful instead. They do this to break down their partners confidence to a lower level than their own. It gives them the power in the relationship. Men don’t wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:52 AM
3

Could you please expand on that?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:29 AM
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Not if they are insecure, and that’s the issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 01:19 AM
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It’s interesting you say this, because it’s actually a topic I worked through in therapy. My male therapist was the first man to ever express outrage and a similar sentiment to what happened. Over a decade later.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/25 12:04 AM
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That’s how abuse works, you will believe you deserve it the longer you’re exposed to it. The cycle of abuse is a very real thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 11:58 PM
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My dad used to threaten to kill us and I have no doubt he was about to attempt it right before he died based on the fact he acquired the weapon about a week before he was killed (possible suicide based on the testimony’s I’ve read, I’m really not sure). He used to tell the women he cheated on my mom with that we all died in a house fire. They were pretty surprised when they showed up at the funeral. I don’t share this often, because of the responses similar to what you described. I’m sorry for w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 11:47 PM
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It is very interesting to see the differences in response and engagement in both threads.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 09:47 PM
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Why do you think you need to explain that to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:05 AM
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Did this hurt your feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 05:02 AM
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Are women humans? Property? Depends on how men feel I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/25 04:10 AM
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Yes she gets half whatever $ he has. Fair is fair
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 11:57 PM
1

Huh? I thought men believed in accountability for their actions?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 08:22 PM
5

Red pill men say stuff here to get validation from other men all the time, most of them would never repeat half the stuff they say irl. The pills are silly and don’t mean any more than you let them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 06:48 AM
9

And the blue pill man is always the one getting laid consistently but that is always ignored lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 04:02 AM
3

I just know those coached women have a group chat lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/25 11:07 PM
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Really? You don’t get it even if you don’t agree with it?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 11:40 PM
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He’s such a gossip.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 10:52 PM
3

High value men wait for the women they actually want. If they can fuck anything, patience tells you what you need to know. You guys mistake wishful thinking with advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 10:15 PM
5

cReddit Karma has a tracking service for that
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 09:00 AM
4

What do republicans care about?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 06:31 AM
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I personally find it to be a highly attractive quality that not everyone has the confidence to possess.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 01:01 AM
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Maybe it was your honesty? Like George Constanza when he does the opposite of what he usually does.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 12:49 AM
4

I think a lot of kids notice when their parents are unhappy. I know I did. I’m not totally convinced staying really benefits anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:35 PM
1

That’s awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 05:31 PM
1

No it isn’t. Controlling your emotions is intellectualizing them. Managing and controlling are not the same thing. Managing gives autonomy to feeling, validation for why it’s there, and healthy processes to work through them. Shoving your emotions down is being dominated by them. Your response showed a lack of EQ. You should learn to manage your emotions instead of reacting to disagreement by insulting me.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 11:04 AM
0

Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 10:38 AM
2

That’s not what emotional intelligence is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 10:35 AM
1

Have you adopted?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 08:27 AM
6

She’s the one who doesn’t think women should be allowed to vote. She’s “pick me Pearl”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 03:22 AM
1

What is the point of “claimed to be a virgin”?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 01:58 AM
8

Do people take advice from Pearl?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 01:57 AM
4

Would you say it’s a pyramid scheme?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/25 12:33 AM
1

Thank you!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:33 PM
5

I’ve seen a lot of men say talk therapy or support groups don’t work for them. Is it more male spaces or is it more research and options for mental health support that provide less traditional low-cost methods for healing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:29 PM
1

That makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:20 PM
1

What if the woman harasses the man by bringing the child to him? I ask because that’s another person that would then be involved and deal with consequences that’s totally innocent and also could have mental health impact on the man. I agree with you, but I’m just curious about what you think in that instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:20 PM
2

I’ve always been curious about if the mother decided to keep the child and the biological father opts for the financial abortion. Can he change his mind when kid is older? Does he still have access to have a relationship with the child and mother? Can he still parent without providing financial support? I’m not saying this would be common, but what in that scenario what would happen and should it matter? If it does matter does financial abortion come with a restraining order in this case?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 08:56 AM
7

No how many?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 07:19 AM
3

I’ve never been asked but I have gone shopping with 2 of my male friends who asked me to help them buy clothes to improve their wardrobe.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 03:35 AM
-3

Well in certain cases it does. In other cases you’ll find contradicting statements here and there. But I’ve never pretended I don’t like persistence. I have other preferences that others don’t share too. If someone has a lot of options, so do I. I’d be stupid to be easy because I’m not interested in casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:41 AM
4

Well if you only focus on that example, sure. I’m not an average woman, but persistence is the only reason I didn’t deny him. He had to earn that. I said no for about 6 months. I apologize if that was triggering.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:08 AM
4

No argument here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/25 01:04 AM
11

Yes, that was just how we met. It took a lot of persistence on his end because I was hesitant for a while. He was an ex pro athlete and very attractive, so I knew he had plenty of options and I wasn’t interested in being an option.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 11:26 PM
9

Piggybacking off your comment. I’ve had 2 LTR, I met the first at a restaurant when I was out with friends, and the second was a business owner and I was a customer at his company.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 10:34 PM
1

You don’t think men are equally reactive when they face criticism?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 10:12 PM
7

I was looking at the top threads here the other day and almost all of them are threads criticizing women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 08:39 PM
3

You would not think it was a moot point if you were the one to get pregnant though. A lot of times during these discussions men speak like abortion is something simple, inexpensive, or easy for women. To be clear, I do not believe anyone, men included, should be forced to be a parent against their will. I also believe that men should carry an equal amount of responsibility for prevention in that instance so it would be cool if there were more options, however that might look.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:48 AM
1

What does that have to do with you using birth control to reduce risk of pregnancy?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/25 09:04 AM
1

So?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:51 PM
1

We aren’t talking about the diversion you tried you use. You’re talking about fixing women to be who you think they should be, because it makes you feel good. Yes, that is using women to make yourself feel good. You help people because you want to, because people only change if they want to change, you can’t fix anyone, you can support them and you should not expect anything in return, because they have to do it themselves if they truly want it. Don’t be dense.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 08:17 PM
10

Can we talk about birth control options for men too?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 07:23 AM
0

I didn’t say that you did
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 02:19 AM
1

Is this challenging to prove in your experience?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:35 AM
1

What counts as proof here?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 01:19 AM
1

I can see both sides, and I agree one leaving. I don’t think he’s a bad person and I understand there can be a lot of shame in these topics. But I can’t say I wouldn’t feel misled even though I understood why he chose not to tell me it’s still the cause for the breakup he knew about.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:26 AM
4

I am genuine in my questions - it’s not a gotcha. I’d be interested to know how you see it as not deceitful as well from a male perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:20 AM
0

He doesn’t have to marry her though, that takes two. If he wanted to marry her he could have also asked for a prenup. If she refused that would probably be a good indication of intentions. So why did he choose to marry someone who wants to steal his money?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:13 AM
0

I don’t know, do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:09 AM
1

They aren’t the same thing, this isn’t about porn. In the OP it states he wants to start dressing more feminine, but he hadn’t shared that before talking about marriage. Would you be ok with the same in your relationship? Would you question why you’re being told now when he’s known? Would you understand but also be misled? If your friends saw him out dressed like a woman, would you care?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/25 12:03 AM
3

Why do you want relationships with drug addicts or people who engage in dangerous behaviors unless you feel like that’s what you deserve? If you do it on the basis of it making yourself feel good then you’re doing it to be manipulative. It’s for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:42 PM
1

Can you expand on this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:32 PM
3

You don’t see it as misleading?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:23 PM
2

Why would you marry someone who had the goal of stealing your money?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 11:17 PM
3

What kind of changes do men hope a woman doesn’t make for herself?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 10:42 PM
8

Why do you want to convert her?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 10:35 PM
7

It means the opposite actually. He’s not worried about it because he’s confident in himself and the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 09:52 PM
10

How is this any different than when guys tell women to take accountability for their choices in the men they date?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 09:38 PM
2

OP is a (single) woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 12:56 AM
2

OP is 45
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 12:50 AM
7

We can tell…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/25 12:34 AM
7

I was going to ask you the same question
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 11:12 PM
5

Our evidence is from our mothers, aunts, grandmothers, and their grandmothers, etc. It wasn’t shared with men, it’s still shared with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 11:04 PM
2

Thank you for answering
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:48 PM
4

Would you say online video game spaces are an example? This a genuine question.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 09:36 PM
1

You post this in every single thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 05:29 AM
2

You weren’t either when you replied on another account to agree with yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 04:07 AM
2

and dodging the point is telling
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:49 AM
1

Manipulating someone into believing you have power is necessary for abuse. Gaslighting is a very common form of emotional abuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:23 AM
5

You did define it by saying how you think it affects women, is it how it affects you?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 03:19 AM
5

That isn’t what girl dinner means…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 02:27 AM
8

Why do you think women would engage in more violence? What’s the why in why men abuse that is important in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/25 01:37 AM
1

That makes sense, I hadn’t thought of it that way
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:57 PM
11

I feel like the insult is usually “man-child” when it comes to men
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:37 PM
15

That doesn’t cancel out that men are more prone to violence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:21 PM
1

I agree - a lot of internet spaces tend to do that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 11:03 PM
2

It wouldn’t bother me in 99% of context tbh. I would rather not be called “gal” lol. But if someone used it at work in a demeaning way I would notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 10:16 PM
2

Nuance, it’s not uncommon for people to use insults thrown at them as terms of endearment within their own groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 10:06 PM
4

You’re right. It doesn’t seem to stop the men here who use it in almost every argument when this comes up though. At least in the USA.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:25 PM
1

Men are still required to register for selective service, women should be too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 09:01 PM
4

Women should also be required to sign up for the draft as long as it’s still in existence.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:35 PM
1

Thank you for sharing that I appreciate it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:29 PM
2

Do you think that it also helps if someone has the means to meet a lot of different people from different places? I would imagine being stuck in a small town has a bigger impact on meeting someone compatible than is often discussed here.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:15 PM
1

True that’s easy to do around here
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:10 PM
1

Do you think she can learn?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 08:02 PM
7

Weren’t you one of the users supporting the rape and forced childbirth of all women for the good of society in a thread yesterday?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:59 PM
2

I don’t care. But I will say if someone brought their sex robot to a wedding like mentioned in the video it might raise a stir. But it will be helpful for any couple paying for plated dinners.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 07:39 AM
1

Amazing to read all these replies where you all miss the point
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/25 04:23 AM
2

I see your point
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:41 PM
3

Can’t let women know that Chad secretly loves onions she might raise her standards
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 07:04 AM
3

It’s always been one of the biggest indicators.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 06:48 AM
6

Negging is a common tactic of the insecure as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 05:47 AM
0

Then why did you use such an extreme scenario to make your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 02:20 AM
1

Context matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 01:55 AM
2

That makes sense thank you for explaining :)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 03:08 AM
1

I always thought men gained muscle and lost fat way easier and quicker than women and I have no idea why I thought that
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 03:56 AM
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Why would this be anyone’s business in the first place? Let the man hold a grudge if he feels like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:19 PM
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The way men here speak about this makes male sexuality seem like torture tbh. I can’t imagine being so consumed by sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:14 PM
3

It does help the person as he’s expressed in this thread. Why are you policing this conversation about periods? It’s a really weird stance for you to take considering other women said the same thing. You don’t decide what’s helpful for everyone but you do get to decide other fun stuff here :) stop messing with me I’m on my period
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:58 PM
3

Why? Wouldn’t that just help support him that he should probably ask his partner instead of assuming random women online speak for her and her period preferences? Especially since we are all saying it depends? He asked the question…because he wanted various answers…like a critical thinker…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:09 PM
3

We shed our uterine lining lol @ flush out an egg Some women have thicker lining which is why some women have heavier periods or if they skip them with birth control when they have their first one after skipping it’ll be heavier than usual because more lining has built up because the body thinks it’s pregnant
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:01 PM
3

Yeah crazy that all women aren’t identical in what they like and what they think isn’t it?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:57 PM
1

No it’s because this has been explained on this sub countless times and posters like you who think you know what is sexually attractive to women more than women aren’t worth the argument when it’s not in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:55 PM
2

Confidence is attractive to women and if you don’t know that then I don’t know what to tell you here. This isn’t rocket science and you’re being quite illogical about it if I do say so myself. This isn’t revolutionary information - just information convenient for you to dismiss.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:54 PM
2

I love that you made this thread it’s very endearing that you asked and I know your partner will be a lucky lady
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:49 PM
2

For me it’s just like the first few days and then after that I’m game but it varies for everyone. The day before/day I start are the days I just can’t. However orgasms do help with period cramps :) It’s also nice when guys aren’t disgusted by it…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:36 PM
1

Anger is a secondary emotion so actually anger masks other emotions making it not just one emotion. Anger skips sadness, hurt, fear, and/or grief. That is why sometimes men show more anger because it’s one of the few emotions that they feel comfortable enough to express without feeling vulnerable or judged (I don’t think this is men’s fault at all btw just the way our society treats many men who show emotions sadly).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:34 PM
2

Just compassion for how much it really does affect me weather it’s the day of and I’m in enough pain to keep me awake at night or the few days before if I’m a little sad and random things like commercials make me cry at bit more than usual. Maybe even make an effort to know the things that help like what products I use or a snack that makes me happy dance. Just consideration and don’t touch my boobs for a few days please because owwww Just caring about it is really meaningful to me and if I don’…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:29 PM
6

I would love it if my partner tracked it - i find that so thoughtful
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:20 PM
2

I don’t like it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:18 PM
-1

Yes it does No it doesn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:54 PM
0

You should walk around with the confidence to have high standards for what you want in partner and not lower them because you think that’s your only option. This is kind of what you learn about in therapy, because low self esteem also can attract abusive partners. That’s why it’s so important. It’s not just about confidence, it’s about not letting anyone treat you badly and loving yourself enough to see red flags.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:13 PM
-2

Spoken like a guy who doesn’t understand the orgasm gap
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:09 PM
4

Because it’s how you see yourself and project it on to others because you don’t see how the girl you want would choose you first because you wouldn’t yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:34 PM
3

Absolutely. There is nothing sexier or higher on my list than safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:30 PM
2

Yeah I’m half joking but I do think that it’s important that women continue to build upon our safety networks. But I don’t think that’s specific to women necessarily either.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:01 PM
1

Of course I love to gossip about men and I encourage it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:49 PM
3

I got 0.0326% I feel good about it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:43 PM
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No I think penis in the vagina takes virginity and none of the others do
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:34 PM
1

True
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:29 PM
7

I think that still happens
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:23 PM
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The only penetration that doesn’t count is in the ear
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:21 PM
1

May the lord open
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 12:15 PM
22

I love how this entire post is about women’s entitlement and lack of self awareness while OP makes an entitled statement that lacks self awareness. Women are just so damn delusional!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 11:40 AM
3

I mean she hasn’t been single long enough in my opinion. I think that a year is the minimum. Otherwise I would see codependency and unhealthy coping mechanisms becoming a potential issue. But in all reality I could be projecting. I’m a slow healer. I cry when I think my dog is mad at me..so.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 10:29 AM
3

It’s science
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 08:04 AM
1

Women under report Can’t imagine why they’d do that can you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:58 AM
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I believe you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:43 AM
3

What sticks out to me is #3 seemingly not being a cause for concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:15 AM
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Are you being serious?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:54 AM
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I see men being much more critical of women’s looks frequently. I also think women are critical of each other’s looks. I see women complaining about how men treat them more often than criticizing how men look. I do however acknowledge the height topic amongst women being hurtful though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:28 AM
4

I’m surprised at what I’m reading here. I did not expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 05:20 AM
7

This would be a GOOD thing. The earth is overpopulated and we are killing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 04:49 AM
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Is it standards men have about looks have or standards of traditional gender roles? I see the latter which is why I’m asking.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:39 PM
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I see what you mean, I see my own defensiveness/bias being the problem you’re expressing. So I guess my answer would be that actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 11:34 PM
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I was asking…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:54 PM
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Can you expand on silencing of men’s experiences in this context? In your scenario I’d seek therapy so that the validation and opinions of others isn’t dictating my worth and learn to look out for toxic or negative men and women who choose to be unsupportive and hurtful towards me. In this case I think men need more mental health support because I know men don’t have as many positive experiences with therapy even if it’s available to them but that’s another topic. Even if something isn’t your fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:53 PM
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What do you want women to do about it? It often seems like it’s an attempt at weaponizing incompetence and making it a problem for women to fix instead of men working on men’s issues. I rarely see men validating women’s dating issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 10:12 PM
6

No it’s because porn is made for men. Most fucking in porn does not look like it feels good as a woman. To be blunt it actually looks painful. It’s predominately visually for the male orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 09:55 PM
5

Or women actually seek mental health support and are diagnosed more often than men. Men are just as emotional, if not more, than women. Anger is an emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 08:34 PM
10

I’d encourage an escort. Ultimately this is really manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 07:52 PM
10

Studies actually show men are twice as likely to false report. https://academic.oup.com/bjc/article-abstract/56/4/646/2747208
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 07:18 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 07:27 PM
1

I prefer older men but none of my friends have dated older or wanted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 10:13 AM
1

I support financial abortion. It just needs a few regulations such as free abortions for women as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:40 PM
1

Nope because you don’t have the ability to get pregnant. Once men can have babies you can have that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 09:30 PM
14

Nothing, the world is overpopulated and many people shouldn’t be parents. We don’t need to repopulate so the rich have more workers and we can destroy the planet further.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/24 08:12 PM
10

Because majority of women take ownership of birth control even when unpleasant side affects disrupt their lives. Part of the problem in today’s world with dating for men is quite literally that hormonal birth control makes men less attractive to women when they instinctually look for an attractive genetic match to have sex. It reduces our receptors and drive to reproduce because our bodies hormonally are tricked into thinking we are already 3 months pregnant. If men would bear the side affects o…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 11:17 PM
10

Men have the same options to prevent pregnancy and have no risk of dying in child birth or because they can’t get an abortion. If you don’t want any risk don’t have sex. If you don’t want to be burdened by child support then it’s your job to take it seriously just as much as women’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 11:05 PM
5

Show me your facts that back up your claim that women have a problem with logic. Because you’re the only one displaying that and lack of critical thought in this thread. I’m actually not sure you know what critical thought means.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 11:01 PM
7

Which is illogical on your part while displaying your own emotions as relevant to your logic
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 10:02 PM
6

Is this what you tell the IRS?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:55 PM
15

Birth control and vasectomies and abstinence are all available to you. While I support financial abortion for men…abortion for women isn’t free, easy, or even legal in many places right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:51 PM
1

Even attractiveness has a huge impact which is bizarre but it’s 💯 shown in various high profile cases so id assume it’s at all levels
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:40 PM
12

Your condescending and emotional response is the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:28 PM
3

Yes and our legal system is generally broken. The law and its interpretation sucks cuz legal vs illegal often doesn’t pertain to right vs wrong. Very frustrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:26 PM
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Because your logic is biased and illogical to suit yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:22 PM
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I don’t think this is as much a man vs woman issue as it is a classism issue. Lawyers are expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 08:16 PM
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No. We are happier alone than settling because men think we should.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 07:14 AM
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Last December my neighbor was beaten to death by her boyfriend. He was only caught because he was dragging her dead body to her car and a few cameras picked it up. I live in nice town in a nice community. Those experiences are the things that bring on what you describe - the situations you’d never expect. Definitely changed me and made me more neurotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/12/24 05:47 PM
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If u can’t be yourself maybe ur not a good person to date
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/24 05:13 AM
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I’d go to the hospital since I was clearly drugged in order for this to happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/24 11:26 PM
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I assume people who say these things are emotionally abusive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/24 01:15 AM
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