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The advantage is relative though, and still slanted massively in women’s favour. Even an average 20 year old woman can get sex with an incredibly attractive Chad. A successful 35 year old, wealthy programmer is stuck with Chad’s cast offs, of declining attractiveness and bitter spirit. It’s been said before, and I’ll say it again, for 95%+ of men, they will ALWAYS be stuck dating women their own age. The idea that a still unattractive guy earning $100k per year will be attractive smoking hot sor…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 02:14 AM
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Every bill banning abortion that I’m aware of has clauses allowing it if the life of the mother is in danger. Even the Catholic Church acknowledges that it is morally permissible to effectively abort a child if the alternative is the certain death of the mother. Then lobby to make it impossible to sue doctors who provide these services, and they’ll be more willing to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:55 AM
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A vasectomy is also (usually) reversible, while undoing getting tubes tied isn’t. The fact that it’s permanent means doctors are worried about being sued by dumbasses who made this decision in their early 20s and now regret it, and because there’s nothing they can do they lash out at the doctor who performed the operation.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:49 AM
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Vasectomies are usually reversible (albeit not 100% reliably). Sterilisation of women is permanent. Doctors are afraid of being sued for doing it to dumb 22 year old women who later decide that they want a child in their mid 30s. It is an elective procedure that can go wrong, as a result the risk isn’t often worth the reward. And this is such a niche issue, how many young men or women want to be sterilised anyhow.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/22 01:47 AM
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I treat them as typical people. The great resentment of the RP from women comes from the fact that mothers, sisters, grandmothers and society as a whole tries to gaslight young men into certain perceptions of women i.e. that they can do no wrong, and that it is the job of men to submit and sacrifice for their happiness and well-being, while also being actively denigrated as misogynists and disadvantages by affirmative action policies. RP did not make me perceive women as below me, it made me per…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 04:08 PM
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Translation: they refuse to be gaslit into treating women as perfect, idealised angels, thus preventing women’s AFBB strategem from working successfully.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/22 10:45 AM
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Average women wanting attractive women’s lifestyle is akin to middle class people wanting a billionaire lifestyle.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/22 01:11 PM
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I don’t, so where do we go from here?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:53 PM
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Have you ever heard of…outliers? Assuming that he isn’t just lying, one anecdotal piece of testimony is not going to change my own witnessed and lived experiences. Every piece of evidence from my own life and that of my social circle, tells me that this kind of guy typically gets next to nothing from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 11:31 PM
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Men know how difficult it is to get a relationship, so we need to pretty much always be trawling to see if we can get something. Women know that they can get a relationship at virtually any time, so if they do sign up to a dating app, they typically aren’t on it for very long, since they’ll usually find a guy that they’re attracted to and wants to date them in short order.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/22 12:08 AM
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People misinterpret what is specifically meant by “share”. We’re not talking a “Sister Wives” scenario here, where they’ll arrange a schedule of who spends time with Chad when. We’re talking women being fucked by Chad, with the intent to get him to commit, and he makes it clear that he isn’t going to commit. She knows deep down that he’s fucking other women, but she willingly operates a don’t ask, don’t tell policy, because she isn’t willing to jeopardise the possibility that SHE might be the on…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:36 PM
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Most people won’t do that, so you’ll be left with an ever shrinking pool of working age people, being taxed at higher and higher rates to support old idiots who didn’t save property. I’ll be interested to see what China will do to solve this issue in their country.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:32 PM
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Any study that purports to measure happiness is completely meaningless in every way. Any study that asks women any question about dating and relationships, is even less so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:30 PM
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Yes, because the women in that demographic are gravitating ever more to being part of a harem of the top 10% of guys, meaning the young guys get nothing the vast majority of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:29 PM
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It continually baffles men that women on this sub and elsewhere will insist that there is some epidemic of incel violence being inflicted on women, and then in another thread will argue that huge numbers of single, disaffected, resentful men isn’t going to destabilise society. Somethings going to have to give, a great benefit of monogamy is that it incentivises men to generate a surplus of productivity. Absent the desire to provide for a wife and children, many men will be happy to work part tim…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:25 PM
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Not a problem for women Then why are we inundated constantly with op-eds and reports about how difficult it is for strong career women to find a man? Most women want a man, the issue is that it’s generally the same man they all want, so when they can’t get him to commit they get bitter about how there are no “good men” out there, which translates to “no top tier man wants to date a 34 year old career woman of rapidly declining attractiveness and fertility”
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/22 06:18 PM
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This is yet another strawman, attacking an argument that guys don’t make. The issue of disappointment is the fact that the average guys who complain about this know for an absolute fact that the girl they’ve ended up with wouldn’t have even glanced at them when they were both 21. He knows that she spent her entire 20s dating men she was actually attracted to, and knows that she is now settling for him solely because he’s tolerable enough that she can briefly fool herself that she actually loves …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:10 PM
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I’m still yet to be told precisely what benefit I get from allowing millions of unskilled migrants into my country and onto welfare. At no point am I opposing some limited immigration, I’m against opening the floodgates to people who contribute nothing to the wider economy or society as a whole, and instead create ethnic enclaves where they refuse to assimilate or participate in the wider society. “Competitive advantage” is a very PC way of saying “allows corporations an unlimited supply of chea…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/22 12:19 AM
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Well that’s me convinced. I’ll proceed to ignore what I see with my own eyes, if some middle class Californian says it isn’t an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:59 PM
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I live in Europe
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 03:58 PM
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The elite despised Trump. You’re yet another bluepillers still thinking that free and open economies are what big corporations want. They want CONTROLLED economies, they want regulatory capture, to ensure that no one is ever allowed to challenge their dominance. The costs associated with higher tax rates imposed by progressive leaders (which are avoided via loopholes constantly) are pennies compared to the ability to ring fence their share of the market, and keep new competitors from taking any.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:04 AM
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I said third world immigration, this immigration absolutely does increase crime, and brings in people who live almost perpetually on welfare. It isn’t even their fault, I don’t hate them or think they’re lesser, but the bottom line is that most are unskilled and functionally illiterate, they don’t have the skills to contribute to a high-skilled economy, outside of menial labour jobs, which are the very jobs that will be automated out of existence in the next few decades.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 11:01 AM
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I don’t care about anything America does, I’m talking about Europe, and mass immigration has been a disaster for the working class people of this continent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/22 10:57 AM
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Yeah, you’ve really got this one backwards. They want the world turned into an amorphous blob of nationless, culture less consoomers. No history, no culture, no homelands, no in-group solidarity, just automatons whose entire purpose is to serve them and consume their products.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:52 PM
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Japan and South Korea’s refusal to countenance mass immigration from the Third World as being some sort of solution is one of the most impressive things about those countries’ governments. They’ve seen the absolute disaster that mass immigration has been for the west, the breakdown in social cohesion, the increase in crime, pressure on public services, struggles to build enough housing, the huge welfare bill, and they’d rather not deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:50 PM
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China’s birth rates declined mainly due to economic advancement, same as everywhere else. This can be seen by the fact that China’s ethnic minorities, who were never subject to the One Child Policy, also experienced declining birthrates The OCP has caused a skewing of the demographics towards having more men, rather than causing the decrease to the lower overall birth rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/22 11:44 PM
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Because young women do not reward guys who display behaviour consistent with being a good man, they are viewed as boring. Consistently sleeping with asshole Chads, then complaining that there are no good men out there, is yet one (of so many) more examples of women’s conflictive dissonance in dating. Being a genuinely good guy doesn’t generate attention, because most guys are good guys, but when the opposite behaviour is what gets results, how can you blame young men for employing the strategies…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:42 PM
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Young women develop this mentality when the stark truth hits that, even now, at the very peak of her attractiveness, she cannot get Chad to commit to her, and so she realises that it is only going to get worse as the years pass, and she realises that one of the average guys she sees in her day to day is guy she will end up with, and that pisses her off.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/22 06:39 PM
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Because women lie about physical attraction mattering, they will flat out say that they don’t care what a guy looks like, as they only care about personality and having a sense of humour. Poorly socialised men then take this at face value, and can’t understand why women continue to give so much license for shitty behaviour to some guys, and none to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 01:03 PM
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It only works when the guy is sufficiently attractive that women will look past it, as they will for almost anything Chad does.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/22 08:46 AM
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I agree with this, but women cause this issues by continuing to deny that physical attractiveness even matters all that much to them, and insisting that personality and sense of humour are the main drivers of what attracts her. The unattractive guys hear this, and believe it, so they think that the asshole personality is what attracted her, rather than the real reason, which is that she was attracted to him physically, and women will grant massive leeway on personality to guys that they’re physi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 11:13 PM
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This is just the No True Scotsman fallacy instead, wherein ok, a huge number of women react positively to, and consistently reward this kind of behaviour, but those women were sluts/mentally disturbed/otherly damaged. It just isn’t believable, especially since many guys here, including me, will have testimony about nice, seemingly ordinary women dating these type of guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/22 10:38 PM
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Being a general cocky asshole has resulted in a great deal more success than my previous tactic of being a supremely boring, “nice guy” wet blanket. It’s less so that women respond well to the asshole behaviour, but it serves to quickly filter out the women who aren’t into it, or who don’t find me sufficiently attractive to let me get away with it. In my younger days I wasted so much time on nights out making boring conversation with girls, only for them to ditch, meaning I wasted time that coul…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 09:31 AM
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Then women need to stop rewarding the men who employ these tactics, as you can hardly expect the average guys who get nothing from women to not make use of what they believe to be successful tactics. Of course due to women’s gaslighting, they don’t realise that the only reasons the successful guys get away with this is because they’re attractive, so their attempts to use similar tactics will only end in failure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/22 05:04 AM
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Do women call each other out when they use guys for attention and free dinners? I don’t know about what behaviour my friends exhibit on dating apps, because men don’t discuss these things. And for those men that do, if the guy acting like an arrogant asshole is the one getting all the success using OLD, then why wouldn’t they employ the same tactics as he does?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:15 PM
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I don’t listen to assholes You clearly do, otherwise you wouldn’t be whining about them on Reddit. You want to stop guys being assholes, but don’t want to speak with the assholes to ask why they behave the way they do? Sounds like a real recipe for success. “Just stop doing the thing I don’t like. No. I don’t care about why, if i don’t like something it should have to stop!”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/22 12:10 PM
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No, trust me. I care about my friends opinion, but even if every one of them told me to stop acting the way I do with women I wouldn’t do it, because I have had far more success acting this way, than I did before. Men are just more logical and data driven, as opposed to being guided more by their emotions like women. The empirical evidence of my experiences will inform my behaviour over any emotion driven exhortations by my friends. You feel cheap because the attractive guys treated you like shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:28 PM
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OP’s entire argument is regressive and sexist. The idea that average men, who get no matches from women, are supposed to “call out” their Chad friend(s), who consistently get laid in spite of their abhorrent behaviour towards women, is insane. I don’t know what any of my friends are doing on their OLD, we don’t talk about specifics like that in the way that women do. If you have matched with a significantly more attractive guy, then he has ONLY swiped on you in order to fuck you. Until women lik…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:24 PM
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You’re entire argument is predicated on objectively incorrect assumptions. The ration of men/women on dating apps is absolutely not because of abusive behaviour. As others have pointed out, the vast majority of women gravitate to the top 20%, at most, of guys, ergo the only guys women get messages from, are guys that they’re already attracted to, so your assertion that these successful Chads are going to stop employing a strategy that has produced excellent results thus far, is lunacy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:19 PM
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No one complains about women not using the apps. The fewer women using dating apps, the better
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:10 PM
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Any data to support the assertion that women are leaving dating apps?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:09 PM
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That isn’t even close to why there are fewer women than men on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:08 PM
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Men are influenced socially to a far lesser degree than women. The fact that asshole guys consistently get laid IS social influence. You’re basically telling men to copy what women do, and lie to their peer group about what does and doesn’t work with women. Women will claim that they don’t like arrogant assholes, yet will consistently date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:07 PM
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No they won’t, the apps give women access to better looking guys than they could feasibly get in real life. You’re also not listening to the testimonials about how average men get virtually 0 attention from women on these apps, so how exactly does women leaving the apps affect them? The only people negatively affected would the most attractive guys, and even then only slightly, as he would have to do a bit of work to find women to fuck, which wouldn’t even be that difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:05 PM
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Because average guys are so desperate for attention from women that they deploy the same tactics as the successful guys, not realising that the only reason those guys get away with treating women like shit is because they’re attractive, and they don’t realise that because women continue to insist that looks don’t matter, so these guys conclude that it’s their attractive counterpart’s shit personality that gets them consistently laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 10:02 PM
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As so often, the Halo Effect. Most women’s interpretation of whether a message is “nasty” or “disgusting” is overwhelmingly predicated on how attractive the guy is. A sexual message early in the conversation by an average guy will be perceived negatively. The same message sent by a hot guy is much more likely to be interpreted as flirty/cheeky, rather than anything terrible worth complaining about. These guys send these messages for the same reason as many of us act like cocky assholes when we’r…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:51 PM
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Dude, don’t you know that women are never even partly culpable for anything that ever happens to them?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:41 PM
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They are more than happy to be hit on anywhere by a sufficiently attractive guy, even if they say no, they get a rush from being the girl that Chad talked to.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/22 09:36 PM
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A huge number of women use dating apps, especially the under 30s demographic, you’re simultaneously telling us not to use dating apps, but also saying that we need to put ourselves out there and talk to many women, and not get disheartened after a few rejections. This comes down, as if so often does, to fundamental disagreements on the nature of dating. You believe that the women on dating apps are not reflective of a majority of women, I say that dating apps give a more accurate reflection of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 09:09 PM
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“Men need to lower their standards!” “Men will literally fuck anything!” Amazing how these two statements interchange with each other as the absolute truth to support strawman arguments made here by women and bluepillers As I’ve said before, I have never met an unattractive guy that had any standards at all, let alone the impossibly high standards that some on this sub allege.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/22 01:59 PM
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I have never once known an ugly guy who had any sort of standards at all, let alone the sort of strawman standards that the women on this sub say.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:23 AM
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Well what's the mechanism for this actually happening? I used to think this was true, but women mostly convinced me otherwise These men keep society running. The shit jobs that women would ever do are performed by these men, if they all downed tools or went NEET, then society would be in a lot of trouble. There’s also the fact that women, as a whole, are net drains on public money, and men, as a whole, are net contributors. The fact that the productive capacity of these men won’t be maximised by…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:21 AM
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At a certain point relative wealth isn’t particularly relevant. The difference in lifestyle between someone worth 300 million, and someone worth 100 billion is minimal. Sure, Bezos can own more yachts, but he can only be on one at a time. He can own more homes but he only has 365 days a year to split between them. Both of these guys have more money than they could ever realistically spend. I also don’t know why him going to space is relevant. Are women super turned on knowing a guy flew into spa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 01:01 AM
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If women stopped sexually selecting men with violent characteristics then men would cease to display them If women practiced what they preach, and actually dated beta nice guys like they claim they want to, then this would be a significantly smaller problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:56 AM
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There are millions of incels by the strict definition of the word, ordinary below average guys who can’t get any attention or affection from women, and it increases every year as the ever greater proliferation of OLD and women’s rising incomes means that they gravitate ever more to the top 20% of men. The lunatics who will shoot the place up are still an incredibly small minority, though I have no doubt that it is only going to get worse for the aforementioned reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:49 AM
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Women find him attractive, and he’s very wealthy and successful, guys with these attributes can get away with doing virtually anything to women and they’ll allow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:26 AM
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Such a strawman, dude I don’t find him funny in the slightest, but he must have a pretty decent appeal for him to be so successful. His comedy is very bland and safe, which is perfect for achieving success in today’s ultra-woke censorious entertainment industry. All modern comedy is trash because comedians are so terrified of offending any of the litany of protected demographics that their comedy has basically nothing to even talk about.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:24 AM
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Makeup can’t change your facial structure, and even for those guys who can successfully apply makeup, women will react with revulsion when they see his real face absent the makeup. Women look for immutable genetic markers of fitness, the fact that you don’t have it isn’t changed by makeup pretending that you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:19 AM
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Absolute nonsense. Most guys would look utterly ridiculous using makeup in any way, shape or form. The pretty boy archetype has a very narrrow set of requirements, chief among them being the need to be tall See: Timothee Chalamet, Machine Gun Kelly, the vast majority of K-Pop stars, Pete Davidson if we’re going there I’ve read some bad takes on this sub, but the idea that women would be attracted to a scrawny 5’4” guy wearing makeup is amongst the worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/22 12:18 AM
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What porn addiction does to a mfer
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 03:15 PM
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NOOOO!! All of those guys were Machiavellian manipulators with Einstein level intelligence, they somehow all conspired to hide their very obvious toxic traits for the entirety of the beginning of these relationships. They only revealed their toxic nature when she was “trapped” and “couldn’t leave” and she was (as all women are at all times) merely an innocent victim
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:49 PM
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The problem is that women lie about being attracted to this sort of man. They’ll say that they’re attracted to a shy guy with “great personality” while their cheating, abusive 6’4” boyfriend continues to treat her like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 02:20 PM
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The only ideal is that he is caring TO HER, it is a turn on when he is a dominant cocky asshole to everyone else. Assuming that he is sufficiently attractive, even being an asshole to her is very far from a dealbreaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/22 01:52 PM
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I saw this one quite frequently when I worked security. Some couple screaming at each other, pushing each other, a white knight tries to intervene on behalf of the woman, gets clocked by the boyfriend, we throw the bf out, and she leaves with him willingly. So pointless. By the end I had stopped having sympathy for them, there were numerous security personnell available. The white knight that is, but also the girls who enable and tacitly encourage this sort of behaviour. I’m pretty sure that pro…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 11:08 PM
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Online dating is by far the most realistic measure of women’s preferences. When women are free to swipe left or right in complete anonymity, with no social pressures, we see that they pretty much all gravitate towards the top 15% or so of the most attractive guys available.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:47 PM
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Lol, those girls aren’t out of their league, they’re usually their looksmatch. Just another example of the ridiculously inflated sense of their own attractiveness that bang average women possess these days
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:55 PM
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I have never in my life met an unattractive man who remotely thought he had a chance with very attractive women. Never, not once. Where women get this idea is genuinely beyond me. Men aren’t deluded, the fat neckbeard, or scrawny short guy isn’t rejecting his looks match because he’s convinced he has a chance with a Victoria’s Secret Model. Porn has many debilitating effects on young men, it is a scourge and a cancer. You’re right in that it warps his perception of who he is attracted to, makes …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:36 AM
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Dude, you do not need to be spending 2 hours a day, 5 days a week at the gym. That is very excessive. And yes, I see no reason as to why you can’t find time even among your other activities to get a workout in. I know multiple super busy individuals who still find time to train.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:26 AM
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20 hours a week!? Dude, that is delusional. Meal prep takes like 2 hours on a Sunday at the absolute most. One hour in the gym per day is MORE than sufficient to attain an excellent physique, even 45 minutes is fine for the majority of people. Most people who just want to be decently fit need no more than 3/4 sessions a week, which adds up to about 6 hours total at the higher end.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:24 AM
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I reject this assertion 100% completely Nobody is convincing me that they don’t have an hour, even 45 minutes, a day to either hit the gym, or do a home workout, of which there are many good ones, ESPECIALLY after the last 2 years. Being generous and proffering 8 hours sleep, and a 10 hour total work day including commute, that still leaves 6 hours a day in which one can train. What exactly is being done in these 6 hours that is more important than your own health and fitness? Pissing away time …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:19 AM
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That’s just a bad example. It is never possible for anything but falling to happen in that scenario. You can’t possibly argue that hitting the gym doesn’t offer a significant improvement not only in quality of life, but also attractiveness. Accepting that it’s over is one thing, accept that it’s over without having tried is the coward’s way out
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:14 AM
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This is a totally real post by a real person, do not question its validity in any way, thank you. This projection never ceases to make me laugh. Never once have I known a single unattractive guy who ever even talked about dating attractive women, let alone rejected his looksmatch in favour of attempting to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:09 AM
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Women say sex isn’t important when incels complain about not having it, yet all of their insults are centred entirely around their targets inability to have sex. If it isn’t important, then why are women incapable of insulting men about something other than their ability to access women’s holes?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 06:06 AM
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The short guy needs to build a significant amount of muscle before it is at all visible in everyday clothing. A guy similar to the one on the right goes to my gym, guy is a beast and super nice as well, but when I saw him on a night out wearing a jacket, it wasn’t particularly noticeable how muscular he was. Sure, he looked bulkier and was clearly in shape, but for a guy who I’m pretty sure trains every single day, it’s gotta sting that he gets so little recognition by women for what he’s got.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 05:45 AM
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The difference is in how the Halo Effect results in their behaviour being perceived completely differently A super cocky, arrogant guy who is nevertheless 6’5” with a handsome face will just be perceived as confident by women. The same behaviour exhibited by a 5’6” guy will be a huge turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 02:09 AM
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How often do women go about groping men, it just doesn’t happen to more than a handful of men in specific scenarios
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 01:20 AM
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It isn’t their fault. The internal radar that they use to identify intel’s, redpillers and creeps just so happens to malfunction when they meet an attractive man. It’s a really unfortunate product defect, because it works 100% accurately at all other times.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:34 AM
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“StOp GeNeRaLiSiNg WyMyN!!” “Allow me to generalise all women in order to refute your point”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:31 AM
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Every girl I’ve dated has said that women are incredibly explicit when talking about their sex lives. They will sit for hours and discuss everything in intimate detail, at a level that would shock most guys, because despite what some women think, we really don’t talk about sex like that, our discussions are a good deal more abstract.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:29 AM
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Casual sex means different things to men and women Casual sex for women is being at Chad’s beck and call for when he’s bored and wants an easy lay No True Scotsman fallacy. Typical boring response. There is no way you’re going to convince young men in their 20s that most women are actually super chaste romantics who just want to meet a nice guy with whom to settle down. And, as if you hadn’t noticed, women lie outrageously about their N count and past sexual experiences, yet another reason why T…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/22 12:25 AM
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Partially disagree. How women treated me when I was overweight versus how they treated me when I got into top shape was night and day, and I guarantee virtually every other guy you speak to who had a similar increase in attractiveness will say the same. Caveat is, I’m 6’5” and very naturally stocky and broad shouldered. I am under no illusions whatsoever as to how different things would be if I were a good deal shorter. There is a guy who goes to my gym who is in incredible shape, competes on lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:36 PM
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Lol, amazing how quickly that liberal, feminist women will victim blame when the victim in question is a man. As we all know, women are never responsible for any of their actions, while men are always responsible for their own fate, regardless of the shit hand that they’ve been dealt. This mentality is like a millionaire berating a poor person for being poor, on the basis that they just haven’t invested well enough to be rich, and thus their station is entirely their own fault. The exquisite iro…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 11:19 PM
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There are if women knowingly consent to being part of his harem, while at the same time complaining that he won’t won’t commit, while at the SAME time continuing to allow him to use her as nothing more than a pump and dump whenever he’s bored
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/22 10:34 PM
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Nah, Bluepilled nonsense. Men can increase their level of attractiveness a bit, with good fashion, hygiene and haircut, but it is very limited. All of the things that women find attractive in men are innate genetic markers. Height, frame, face. No level of fashion or $300 haircuts is going to allow a 5'6" Indian to compete with Chris Evans. Women, on the other hand, have great scope to increase their level of attractiveness through form fitting dresses, heels, push up bras, makeup, hair extensio…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 11:02 PM
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Because women generally are not as horny men or at least very different.. Ballix. More Bluepilled nonsense. The difference is in availability. Women know that that they can get casual sex, at any time, with a decently attractive man. Men, even decently above average men, cannot just avail of sex whenever they want, and definitely not usually with partner of who possessed any significant level of attractiveness. If I knew that at any moment I could have a decently attractive girl rush to my house…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 10:38 PM
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No, they don't since on average since they got lower sex drives (or at least very different/more fluid ones i.e not equal) Yet more Bluepill received wisdoms. It isn't true, women's sex drives are just as high as mens, the difference comes from the fact that they aren't nearly as desperate, on average, as men, because they know that they can get sex with a decently attractive man whenever they want. If I knew that I could get an average plain Jane for sex whenever I wanted, then sure, I'd have h…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 08:40 PM
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Yes, relatively speaking There's also the fact that the comments under porn videos are made under cover of anonymity, while on TikTok their real identity is visible. Women are less vocal about this publically than, but the shift in women's behaviour around an attractive guy is very telling.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:24 PM
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Intuitively, it does ring true. Do you have something to contradict it? Look at the comments under any attractive male TikTok star's video, you'll see the thirst flowing like Niagra Falls.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 09:52 AM
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Dude, context very clearly put the above advice to those out drinking, or on a date with a woman, or online dating. It is not advice that should be employed with women at work or in the supermarket.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 09:34 AM
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It's an equivalence. Get a hot woman, and most guys become thirsty. Get a hot enough guy, and most women are thirsty The point I'm making is that the number of men sufficiently attractive to trigger such a response from women, is much lower than the reverse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 09:25 AM
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Bro, I know of a guy who is statistical outlier! Don't you know that invalidates your general theory about things?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 09:21 AM
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Mostly agree, except: To simplify: Men want to fuck, Women don't. Women want to fuck just as much as men, it's just that the guys that women want to fuck are much smaller in number than the women guys are willing to fuck. Get a sufficiently attractive man, and most women become just as thirsty as any guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 01:22 AM
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Women literally pay thousands to high end dating sites in the hopes of being matched with a richer, more attractive man than themselves. Bitter, older career women are ironically the biggest incels around, because they've worked so hard to garner status for themselves, that only a man of even HIGHER status will be considered by her for a relationship. And until they can explain what they offer that a much poorer, but more attractive and pleasant woman cannot, it's only going to get worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:47 AM
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It has nothing to do with quality, and everything to do with availability. Average men are available for pretty much all women. Average women aren't, or at least try very hard not to be, available for average men. All women are available for top tier men. Top tier women are ONLY available for top tier men. Ergo, women get an inflated sense of their own attractiveness because some bored Chad pumped and dumped them one weekend as an easy fuck, and because women can't see sex and relationships as c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:45 AM
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One day, one day they will understand the bell curve, and statistical generalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:39 AM
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Because gay/bisexual men are still men. Just as men are not particularly concerned about a woman's status, gay men are also not particularly concerned about another guy's status, meaning that physical attractiveness is just about the ONLY thing that matters to them in selecting a partner. This would also strongly suggest that the top tier of the most attractive gay men are having the most sex out of anybody, particularly convincing given the historically very high levels of promiscuity within th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:39 AM
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Just be sexually forward, guys, what do you stand to lose, really? A prolonged, boring conversation in which you aren't remotely interested? Just say something sexually provocative within the first few minutes, and if she gets all giggly and laughs it off, then she finds you sufficiently attractive and you should pursue her, escalating the level of sexual innuendo all the while. If not, well, you saved yourself a lot of time and effort that can now he channelled to another woman. Believe me, guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:30 AM
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Basically gay guys' version of the "dad bod" Basically a guy with a little fat around his midriff, but who is otherwise clearly physically strong and well built i.e. broad shoulders, thick forearms, barrel chest.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/21 12:23 AM
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Because "average men" don't cheat a lot more. Most average men these days can't get into relationships at all. Thus, the men who are in relationships are ipso facto the above average men who have options. Also I seriously, seriously doubt any study which bases its findings on self reported activities that would put women in a bad light.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:42 PM
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An alpha does not need to be an asshole, as has been clarified many times. It's just that the crossover between being an alpha, and assholish behaviour is often quite a fine line. Being very confident is not far from being arrogant. Being persistent is not far from being creepy. Being compassionate is not far from being weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/21 12:33 PM
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It is akin to an inherited multi-millionaire lecturing a poor man, about how he's only poor because he makes poor financial decisions, and that all of the factors keeping him poor are only illusory, because the millionaire knows one other fellow millionaire who was self made from poverty. It's so often pure gaslighting, or misdirection, not based on any available information whatsoever. A guy will say that he struggles with women, because he's short, and women's first response will be to gasligh…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:37 AM
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Then why do tall guys have significantly more success dating than short guys? If all women really want is a guy that's taller than them, then surely it makes no difference whether he's 5'7" or 6'5", yet it very obviously does.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:13 AM
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Sure, because guys who struggle with dating due to their height really want to make themselves even MORE unattractive by whining about it to a woman. Women despise whiney men as a sign of weakness. Why are women so self-assured in telling all of these short guys that their personal, lived experiences are wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:10 AM
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No, dude, you don't understand All those short guys who consistently tell us that their height is a significant obstacle in dating are all mistaken. All of our own personal experiences of witnessing this are also mistaken. Anything related to an uncomfortable truth about women is mistaken.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/21 12:07 AM
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They said “we love nice guys! You’re so nice! Don’t change! You just keep on being yourself and someday some girl is gonna love you Just For Who You Are!!” "Not me though, or any of the girls in my social circle, teehee"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 10:05 AM
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This is obviously somewhat true, but it really isn't as differentiated as a lot of people on here like to say. Women want tall, handsome and exciting guys when they're in their late teens and 20s, and want tall, handsome, successful provider types when they reach their 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:46 AM
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so what I want to do is discover the truth, and then develop/cultivate attributes and behaviors in myself which make women truly attracted to me. This is the Redpill, in spite of how many posters here choose to misrepresent it. You've already realised that what Bluepilled society says about sex and relationships is nonsense, so you're off to a good start.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/11/21 09:32 AM
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No one is saying that only hot people have sex, you're being deliberately obtuse. What he's saying is that if a guy is sufficiently attractive, then women will overlook any and all blatant red flags regarding his personality and character, because he gives her tingles in the crotch region. I wouldn't go that far, but it is plainly obvious that attractive guys get away with saying and doing things that unattractive guys would be blasted for right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/21 11:18 PM
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Guys with strong jawlines are more likely to have a square shaped head.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:47 PM
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As opposed to the other part of the sub, which acts as though ANY generalisation is somehow invalid because they know of someone who doesn't adhere to it. What is the point of a sub like this, or indeed any sub which has a debate/discussion focussed remit, if we cannot generalise that which we are talking about. Saying that women prefer tall men is a generalisation, and that means it holds true generally. Just because you or someone you know is dating a guy who is 5'6" does not invalidate the br…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/21 04:46 PM
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That’s a very broad generalization of what a modern woman does Obviously it is, I never alleged otherwise. Only shallow people are more interested in physical appearance than intelligence. Physical attractiveness is the single most important factor in anyone choosing to date someone else. This is proven by studies, and is also blatantly obvious on its face. Those attractive guys that get attention for doing nothing in their 20s. Are the same guys that are divorced from their 3rd wife and are pat…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 09:35 PM
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They're misinterpreting it when they say women "willingly" enter into harems, but so are you, you're each sort of half right. When she starts getting fucked by a hawt, charismatic guy who wont commit, she is fully aware that he is most probably fucking other women as well. She isn't particularly thrilled about that, but she would rather live in ignorance, getting fucked by this top tier guy, than get guaranteed commitment from a more average man. Each one of the women he is fucking are completel…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 10:24 AM
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The RP is a way of looking at things, even if it's uncomfortable to acknowledge them. It is not a philosophy with a set text, there are many shades of red amongst those of us who believe in it. All the PUA bullshit doesn't interest me in the slightest, it's mostly nonsense, but the core tenet of ignoring what women say, and watching what they do has stood me in good stead for a while now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 10:10 AM
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The RP is a tool, how it is applied and the conclusions that guys draw from it are personal. Its core tenet, at least as far as women is concerned, is to watch what they do, and ignore what they say.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 10:07 AM
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But that success doesn't manifest until at least the mid 30s, by which time most modern women have spent almost two decades on and off the carousel, have had numerous relationships, friends with benefits, one night stands, while the intelligent successful guy experienced none of that as he was working to make himself successful, because he's fully aware that women have no interest in him physically, and thus he needs to equalise the playing field with money in order to have chance. This guy is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 10:02 AM
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I disagree with your conclusions, though I agree that this data doesn't seem particularly informative, and doesn't lend itself to OP's conclusions either. Women hanging out with friends is, at least from my experience, more likely to involve staying in and spending the entire evening at someone's house, something that I assert is definitely less common among men. Men obviously meet up and hang out with each other at home as well, but men just heading to each other's houses to spend the night sit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:40 AM
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No, but it exists, and is important to recognise. The "just get a hobby, bro!" basically imply that there are huge numbers of available activities that involve an equitable distribution of men and women within their membership, and joining will give every man a chance to interact with a bunch of women until he meets the right one, which is patently nonsense. Hobbies are either overwhelmingly segregated by sex (sports), prohibitively expensive (mountain biking, hiking), or typically female pursui…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/21 12:34 AM
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Lol, why do Bluepillers have this mindset that because I'm not part of a demographic that I can't recognise and talk about the issues facing that demographic? I suppose it's derivative of modern identity politics, wherein a person in a position of "privilege" cannot speak on the conditions of the majority who aren't. Why is it always the same inane insults, always related to a person's inability to have sex, despite protestations that sex isn't that important anyway, and that you really just nee…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 03:22 PM
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I get out plenty, I'm in the 10%. I used to be significantly less attractive though, so not much anyone says is going to override the night and day contrast of how people treat others based on whether they are attractive, or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:07 PM
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What if you're not athletic? The ratio is likely to still be skewed towards men. And I seriously doubt that your experience of it being 20 somethings all looking relationships is indicative of the common trend.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/21 12:05 PM
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Of course it doesn't exist, it's more like 90/10 at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 03:17 PM
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It exists because men have allowed it to exist, it is not something that women have imposed on society from above. The entirety of modern feminism was created by corporations in order to destroy tradition family structures, and create increasingly atomised societies. It requires widespread gaslighting and misleading of men to keep this system working, and as ever more men start to become Redpilled and realises this, the more likely that the whole rotting edifice will collapse, albeit, as I said,…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 03:14 PM
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Almost any hobby that is an athletic endeavour of some kind is going to be segregated by gender. The most common hobby amongst men are video games, which are obviously not conducive to meeting people for obvious reasons. When this is pointed out the answer is invariably to suggest some very expensive and/or niche hobby, like mountain biking, surfing or rock climbing, which are out of reach for most working class guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:11 AM
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Because they only want to date the small percentage of the most attractive men. These men have many options, and thus will pump and dump these women, but never get into relationships with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 10:06 AM
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No point wasting time/effort/resources on trying to play a rigged game. If the guy isn't attractive then he isn't getting anything from women, regardless of how well he has learned to "play a game"
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:53 AM
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I'm somewhat sceptical on that 30% figure. I'd imagine that that's probably the percentage of people who consistently use dating apps, but I am sure that the percentage of people who have tried them at some point is much higher, likely me who tried them and got absolutely nothing, or women who were inundated with creepy DMs and sub-par matches who just gave up. I'm sure there's a reason, but I still do not understand why 18 year olds are collated with 35 year olds in the same demographic categor…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/21 09:34 AM
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No way, bro! Men are just going to stand aside while women cull them. Women will also then co-operate to develop and maintain the incredibly complex machinery of this new female controlled world, despite their clear lack or desire or capacity to excel in STEM as a gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:43 PM
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All of them, lol. Particularly the one where you completely misapprehend what gynocentrism is. Gynocentrism is the concept that women occupy a privileged position in society relative to men, which is true, it does not mean that all men consider their lives to meaningless, and will stand by while much weaker, much less inherently violent women wipe them out, haha. Far more likely is that the world comes to its senses and restores traditional gender paradigms, with women forced back into their rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:38 PM
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Gynocentrism does not mean that men consider their lives meaningless, and will allow themselves to be.....what? Are they to be culled, aborted, sterilised? Who's going to perform such actions. Beta simps are pretty pathetic, but even they aren't going to allow themselves to cease to exist, lol. What complete lunacy, the human survival instinct is one of our strongest.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 11:33 PM
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There is no panacea that we can offer that will eradicate your fear of rejection/coming across as creepy; bottom line is that you're just going to have to put yourself out there and try and maintain conversation with women. Don't wuss out now, college is by far the easiest place to do this, and you'll kick yourself if you fail to learn to properly socialise in such an optimal social environment as college, it only gets more difficult from then on. Always start with something simple, what they're…
/r/seduction13/11/21 03:37 PM
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And you expect men to just stand aside as their very existence is threatened? What is overwhelmingly more likely is that in a few decades time, a sufficiently charismatic figure will mobilise the majority of the male population that cannot get any kind of attention from women, take power, and reinstitute traditional societal gender roles i.e. monogamy, women's role being in the home, wholesale expulsion of women from the work force, cultural celebration of marriage and motherhood, and ostracisat…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 03:03 PM
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He did say that he was a late bloomer, maybe he started working out and grooming well? You know, the stuff that the women here say will make a man more attractive. Maybe his confidence is now sky high after having finally gotten a girlfriend, and he's seeing that other women now find him desirable as he goes through life? Women really cannot stand the idea of men having options
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:30 PM
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Yeah, I'm pretty typically RP, but I don't buy that if the the genders were reversed then people would just be telling her "yass, kween!" And praising her for doing what's best for her. I do agree that women are less likely to get aggro for this mindset than men are though. This is mostly because of the fact that if a woman wants to play the field and experience different sexual partners and experiences, then she can do it with almost 100% certainty, whereas this guy is going to have even worse …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/21 02:17 PM
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there's no "appropriate" scenario for courting anymore. There are those who will advocate one joins an activity to meet women, then tell one not to join an activity just to meet women, that's creepy. God forbid one's hobby or passion is mostly guys, as the vast majority of athletic endeavours are going to be, just undertake an activity you dislike on the minute chance that it has single women in it, and that you're somehow the best looking of the guys going, and she decides not to use OLD to mee…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/21 07:57 PM
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These aren't bad ideas per se but these are always the sort of ideas that are thrown around, and they aren't feasible for most people. For a start, they are out of reach for most people, financially. These activities require a quite substantial inital financial outlay to get started, a bike, rock climbing gear, hiking equipment. Even then, for those living in a big city, they may just not be able to access these activities at all. Most activities are segregated by sex. My hobby is MMA, I train 4…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/21 09:58 PM
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Incorrectly conflating being uneducated with being stupid is precisely the point. As if having knowledge of some incredibly niche subject from college makes you smarter than a non college educated person in all avenues of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/21 09:57 AM
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It isn't money, it's status. She "feels" like he's below her socially, and as a result the amount of money he makes becomes a non factor, especially since so many women have an incredibly poor grasp of how lucrative skilled trades usually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 03:59 PM
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It's the fact that these women think that a debt free tradesman making $100k per annum is somehow "below" her because she has amassed tens of thousands in debt to procure a useless Humanities degree that she can't do anything with. You know full well that these days there is a never ending lament by women about how rare "wealthy" (not objectively wealthy, wealthier than her, by at least 25%), handsome, college educated men are. Things are only going to get worse, and I for one find it hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 03:39 PM
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Women working in Starbucks for minimum wage still of the opinion that amassing $150k in debt for an utterly useless Humanities degree means that they're too good to date a debt free tradesman making $120k a year working for himself Hold on while I bring out the world's smallest violin and join you in your lament.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 03:36 PM
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They only want the top 10% of men AT MOST, and this has gone from the top 10% of the 50% of students who were men, to the top 10% of the 40% or lower of students who are men, and with every passing year the trend worsens for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/21 03:32 PM
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Women, and holding two totally contradictory opinions at once. Name a more iconic duo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/21 12:52 AM
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Because average guy is often so debilitated by the constant rejection that he doesn't even try anymore. If Becky is complaining that she can't get a guy, she needs to start being proactive and initating things, can guarantee she will receive an almost pathetic level of gratitude in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 06:24 PM
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The vast majority of consumer spending is undertaken by women, a lot of it on fairly pointless materialistic purchases, it must be said, remove men's purchasing power from that and a lot of industries are going to be in very bad straits.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 04:49 PM
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If Becky gave any amount of attention to an average guy, he would happily date her. The issue is that Chad pumped and dumped her one night because he wanted an easy lay, and as a result she now feels entitled to commitment from a Chad level guy, because going for an average guy will eviscerate her ego
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:37 PM
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The reason we enforced monogamy was in order to harness these average men's economic surplus. If only Chad had access to women, then these men will work only enough to sustain themselves, and enjoy increased leisure time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/21 01:11 PM
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As with virtually every other question on this subreddit: it depends on whether he is attractive or not Tall, handsome Chad can devote his life to the gym, and women will talk about how hawt and in shape he is. Short, otherwise ugly guys are seen as over compensating, and will be looked on negatively for their endeavours. Halo/Horn Effect in action as with most things
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 09:36 PM
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Dumb Becky is insufferable, Dumb Becky can easily get a boyfriend angry Becky has hysteria Angry Becky can easily get a boyfriend Smart Becky is pretentious Smart Becky can easily get a boyfriend What you mean to say is that Chad won't put up with this shit, because Chad has many other options. These girl's male equivalent hasn't had any human contact for months, Becky is pissed that Chad from English Lit hasn't dumped a load in her for over a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 08:55 PM
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If a crime is only a crime because the victim reports it, or alleges that they subjectively considered it a crime, then you open the floodgates to bribery and intimidation in any criminal cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 08:47 PM
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You're arguing semantics. I agree that things have gone a bit wild in regards to consent, wherein it needs to be documented in triplicate before any sex can happen. I also agree that someone being a bit drunk does not vitiate their ability to give consent, but in my example he was passed out and FULLY INCAPABLE OF GIVING CONSENT. I bring this up because the reaction of my friends and I was to laugh at it, which is a bit fucked in hindsight. One thing I realise that I forgot to mention was that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 03:57 PM
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I doubt it's as rare as we think, given that men are super reluctant to ever even admit it has happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 11:13 AM
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Increasingly, but not in large numbers, and certainly not willingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 11:12 AM
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In fact, it wouldn't be rape if he wakes up and goes "oh fuck yeah" because he isn't going to report it as rape. Nope, would 100% still be rape, she started having sex with him without his consent, that is rape. Sure, he may give consent halfway through, but everything until that point was rape, and no one would ever allow a guy to use this excuse with a woman, as indeed many rapists have tried alleging (sometimes truthfully) that because the victim was able to orgasm, she somehow actually wante…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 10:47 AM
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If you go into a bar and punch a small woman as hard as you can, so that it knocks her out, you're going to be treated differently than if you'd punched a professional boxer who barely flinched. Not in establishing the underlying facts of the case. You've basically just repeated my example back to me here, both women in my example were raped, both people in your example were assaulted. Aggravating factors are taken into account AFTER a guilty verdict has been rendered. All that needs to be estab…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 10:40 AM
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To whom, he didn't consider it a problem, and we were all laughing and joking about it, but it does pop into my brain as a huge example of the sort of double standard that still surrounds sexual assault committed by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:39 AM
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Since girls don't have a dick, they legally can't be charged with rape. Umm, sweaty, you need to check your privilege, girls very much CAN have dicks, let's unpack this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:38 AM
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So, he never gave consent for her to do it. Have to lol a bit at the "well, he was asking for it" defence being used, given how often such a defence has been rightly excoriated in the media as a terrible excuse. Nowhere in the law are the effects of the act relevant to someone's criminal liability for rape, except maybe as an aggravating factor in sentencing. Some women are raped and are able to process it, and go on to live a normal life; another victim may be so debilitated by PTSD that she be…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/21 12:35 AM
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Has happened to my friend before in a party in which I attended. He never said until much later, but a girl he'd been flirting with went into his room and started to suck him off while he was lying there passed out. Now, make no mistake, he would have 100% banged her if he could (bad whisky dick) but as you rightly say, imagine if the roles were reversed, and he had walked in and started licking her out while she was lying there. Immense double standards I'd say.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:40 PM
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Jesus Christ, what part of that isn't believable, a bunch of Uni students playing a drinking game, the questions are all about sex, and we're in a room in student halls with a desk. I sometimes wonder if Reddit believes that anything has ever happened. The average penis length is about 5', how big does it need to be?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:34 PM
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I know, but the guy's girlfriend in that story couldn't understand why he was upset that she did that to him while he was sleeping, she got super defensive and tried to gaslight him with accusations of not finding her attractive anymore, neglecting her, or even cheating on her which is where his sexual energy had gone. I'm saying that when women pressure their boyfriend into sex he doesn't really want, it's fine, he's a man, and men are nothing more than sex crazed brutes; but when a guy pressur…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:29 PM
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That's very expensive. There also isn't any surgery to make 5'6" guy ever appear tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:26 PM
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I'd imagine it would be incredibly dispiriting to spend a huge amount of time and money, attending events that you might not be interested in, in order to maybe get a coffee date with a single mother in her 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:24 PM
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When I worked as a bouncer, on virtually every occasion a guy smacked someone, his gf would leave with him, even if, and I suspect ESPECIALLY, if it was a white knight who intervened on her behalf when he was being aggressive.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:07 PM
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men have a billion standards for women sexually CHAD may have many standards, but that's because he has a commensurate number of options. Ordinary guys have effectively no requirements, preferably not obese, preferably not a complete bitch, preferably willing to have somewhat regular sex, but these are all negotiable, if we're honest. What women say starts making sense when, in all circumstances where what they've said makes no sense, replace "guy/man" with Chad, and it will usually click then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 09:04 PM
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Maybe you just have a very wide vag? Women have utterly atrocious perception of dick size. I remember in Uni a girl telling us during a drinking game that she'd once had a dick that was about 10 inches, there conveniently happened to be a ruler on the guy's desk and she actually wound up concluding that it was probably no more 6½, 7' AT MOST.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:59 PM
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The dissonance between the way they'll accept virtually any level of toxicity from Chad, but make it a colossal societal issue when that same behaviour is displayed by average or low tier men. Loud Chad is charismatic and confident, loud average guy is arrogant and unlikable Aggressive Chad gets them tingling, aggressive average guy scares them. Chad spending all his spare time at the gym is SO HAWT, average guy is over compensating and could never be dated because he would neglect her for the g…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:56 PM
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For PERSONAL protection, not to headshot one of two writhing bodies on a moving train while under panic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:22 PM
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If he does not stop, and instead charges her, she will have a clear target. You're really getting all of your information on how guns work from Hollywood movies, aren't you? What if he closes the distance too quickly, because in your panic you missed the shot, or you forget to turn off the safety in the rush, or the bullet ricochets and hits a bystander, or it misses and hits the woman, or passes through him and hits the woman, and now you're tied up in years of expensive legal proceedings, even…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:20 PM
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I'm not even American, have never held a gun in my life, but even I can tell when people who have no idea how guns work start commenting on them, usually some moron suggesting a leg shot or something equally stupid. How are you supposed have a clear shot in a crowded subway cart?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:13 PM
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Got into a screaming match and kicked the guy out, perhaps preventing a girl from getting raped. And narrowly avoided a 10 year prison sentence for assault with a deadly weapon. What a brave boy! Someone being a "known" rapist (has he been convicted?) and in the vicinity of women is not sufficient grounds to sustain a defence against stabbing someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 08:05 PM
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The expectation that you should want sex from them 24/7, and their anger if you don't. This one really surprises a lot of men when they first encounter it. I've read stories about guys turning their girl down only to wake up to them having sex with them anyway, or start screaming at them. Women never want to feel as though there is ever even one moment in time wherein their boyfriend does not find them desirable.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 07:53 PM
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A lot of young men are dropping out of society and under-earning women, which only makes the problem worse (because hypergamy). Bingo. This will then create a negative feedback loop as more and more women get degrees and higher paying jobs relative to men. Remember women will still rarely "date down" with a man who doesn't have a degree if she has one, regardless of the fact that he's a plumber earning 90k per annum and she's an admin temp on less than a 1/3 of that. This means a yet ever increa…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:17 PM
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Exactly. Look at the issues the UK is having with the huge shortage of truck drivers at the moment. Truck driving is actually quite well paid, relative to the time and effort needed to become qualified, but it also requires a ridiculous amount of time away from home, living in a truck for potentially weeks at a time and nonstop, monotonous driving along anonymous motorways. Why would young men subject themselves to such shite conditions when they can work a lower paid, but much less stressful an…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:09 PM
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Which causes higher prices for consumers, who then complain about the cost of living. Not saying wages haven't been stagnant and should go up, but there has to be a trade off.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 04:02 PM
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The only way to get good at something is to practice it, and the younger generations are having less and less face to face interactions as time goes on, which will have no doubt been massively exacerbated by the restrictions during the pandemic.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 03:57 PM
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Negative feedback loop. The more they get rejected, the less they try; the less they try, the worse their social maladjustment becomes, and the worse this becomes the more reluctant they are to even try any more. Once again, as with 99% of what is asked here regarding men's behaviour. Step 1.) Be attractive Step 2.) Don't be unattractive These men are unattractive, and cannot compete with the smorgesbord of Chad cock on offer via OLD.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 01:21 PM
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1.) Approach 2.) Ask for number 3.) Be immediately rejected because she has 5 Chads in her DMs willing to pump her at a moment's notice
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/21 01:15 PM
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The attractive guy telling his ugly friend to "just go up and talk to women, bro" is the prime example of this. Whenever the attractive guy has done this he has had overwhelmingly positive responses, even where it didn't result in anything happening, because women are generally receptive to attractive guys hitting on them, and if they're in a relationship they will be up front and apologetic about how they are unavailable, and allow the guy to retreat with his dignity intact. Compared that to th…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 06:18 PM
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Leg lengthening can only add at most 3 inches to your height. Is the expense, the pain, and the long period of rehab really worth going from 5'0" to 5'3"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/21 06:05 PM
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Because TikTok is the purest distillation of Black/Redpill. It has demonstrated how people can gain millions of followers doing literally nothing, purely on the basis of their looks. OLD is a far more accurate representation of what women actually want than real life could ever be. In real life women will ceaselessly gaslight men by telling them that "personality" is the most important thing they look for in a guy, and that by being nice and funny, he can totally get someone. Meanwhile online da…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/21 12:25 AM
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Your entire counter is that the woman on the right is just conventionally pretty, even though whoever posted this clearly went looking for a picture of the most attractive girl possible? Let me clear it up, yes, the woman on the right is among the most attractive women I've seen facially, it is perfectly symmetrical, and she has stunning eyes. I would confidently say she would be seen as a 10/10 by at least 98/100 average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 10:11 PM
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Where did I say that a majority used dating apps, quote directly where I said it. Are you people incapable of reading beyond what you need to to make your arguments? I said a majority between 18-30 use dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:16 PM
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How else am I supposed to draw a conclusion on this, am I supposed to believe your anecdotal evidence over my own, lol? Unless you're able to analyse all women's Tinder profiles and collate the data as to which ones have which photos, then I have to draw on my own experiences. God above, this sub does NOT know how to properly apply anecdotal evidence, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:10 PM
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And that's great, but you must appreciate that most women would not be willing to date someone of your boyfriend's height and attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:07 PM
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Then why are such a high percentage of young men sexless these days, while the percentage of sexless young women is significantly smaller. The math can only mean that an ever smaller percentage of men are having sex with an ever greater proportion of available women, which is the point I was making.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:04 PM
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Look at this dude, he is jacked, lol. Is he feminine because he dresses well and has good hair and takes care of his grooming and hygiene? Aren't those things you tell incels to do and it will get them laid, lol? Why wouldn't that apply 1000x fold to a male model. And you said that you thought that not being attracted to him was the standard for most women, which is patent absolute nonsense, this guy could pull 99% of women in any venue he happens to be in
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 02:02 PM
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Of course we would still desire her, but we'd know that it is unrealistic in the extreme to think we have a chance with her. Women who look like the left will think they deserve the looksmatch of the girl on the right, and will dismiss their own looksmatches to serve as easy lays in a fruitless quest to get commitment from a top tier guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:36 PM
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False dichotomy. The overwhelming majority of men would never even conceive of thinking they could get right, she is facially the most attractive woman I've ever seen. Every guy knows that only the most giga of Chads could even imagine getting with her, and no average man is going to turn down the girl on the left because he has some sort of expectation that he could get the girl on the right. Most average guys would be ecstatic to date the left girl, the problem is that the average girl who loo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:34 PM
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Yes, and I'm confident that the vast majority of average men here would be more than happy to get into a relationship with her. Girl on the right is unattainable for all but the most giga of Chads, so this is an idiotic false dichotomy. The girl on the left SHOULD be content with an average man because she is average herself, the girl on the right is extremely attractive and therefore is justified in demanding an equally attractive man. The issue is that girls look like left and have standards l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:49 PM
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If you get rid off the men you get rid of the "empowerment". Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:45 PM
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The issue is the social problems of guys who’re not in the bottom. That's the issue. The bottom X% of men traditionally got nothing, but that percentage is continually rising year on year and that's causing the problems. We're now at the point where sexual liberation and OLD means that only the top 15% of guys have access to women in their sexual prime, with the rest having to make do with the scraps in their 30s and 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:07 PM
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1 of every 3 (minimum) Tinder profiles I swipe through has a girl twisting and showing off her ass in her mirror. I have read much Tinder "advice" from women which stated that a shirtless pic of any form was conceited.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:54 AM
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You're right, my eyes are lying to me on my daily Tinder sessions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:52 AM
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I do understand, it's just a terrible analogy lol. For this analogy to be not stupid, women engaging in online dating would need to be an utterly minuscule proportion of all women everywhere, 1% or less, which is obviously not the case. The large majority of women in the average redditor's demographic (18-30) are engaged in online dating in some form. It is where a large proportion of new relationships are initiated. Yet more logical fallacies from women, this time No True Scotsman.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:51 AM
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He should, but he often can't, which is the whole point of contention. A 5'1" girl still wants to date a 6' guy if at all possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:49 AM
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Yet more gaslighting. The Indian guy's standards are already extremely low, it's that his looksmatch's standards are exceedingly high, and regardless of how unattractive she is, she still feels that she deserved to have access to the top percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:47 AM
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Men turn toxic because of years rejection and mistreatment by women Somehow flips it so that the toxicity was always there inherently, and it's the reason why they're alone Amazing how this toxicity detector malfunctions almost 100% of the time that a sufficiently attractive man is present
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 11:45 AM
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The substantial majority of women have a bikini pic or a mirror pic showing off their ass on their Tinder. Meanwhile, a guy is called conceited for having a shirtless pic showing off his 6-pack, even if it's at a perfectly natural location to be shirtless, like the pool or the beach.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:50 AM
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Online dating is a more accurate and pure representation of women's desires than any real world interaction will ever be. Online there is no social etiquette to follow, no need to let guys down gently, or worry about coming across as a bitch. They pick the guys they think are hot, and all other guys are left with nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:46 AM
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I've said this several times on this sub, but nothing give a clearer picture of this sort of behaviour than being a formerly fat, unattractive guy who got into excellent, muscular shape. I'll preface this by saying that I am 6'5" with naturally wide frame, so I always had high potential to be muscular (lends itself to getting very fat as well though), and the difference in how I was treated from being fat, to being fit, well, saying it was night and day barely does it justice. I would just act l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:43 AM
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And which study/survey are you basing this on?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:25 AM
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Even when the guy hasn't said a word, or interacted with them in any way, they can still tell. It's uncanny. Still some teething issues though, seems to suffer from a high rate of critical failure with certain types of guys, usually tall, handsome ones. Such a shame though, because that means it doesn't pick up on these men's open and blatant misogyny and promiscuous nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:15 AM
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You're not attracted to this literal 10/10 male model and you think that that's standard, lol? What the hell are your standards then if this guy doesn't meet them?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 01:11 AM
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Yet more gaslighting. You're implicitly blaming the large and ever increasing percentage of men who can't get female attention for their station, rather than women's hypergamy and sky-high standards, fuelled by OLD and a gynocentric society that refuses to countenance the idea that women can ever be at fault for anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:59 AM
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Women's capacity to beautify themselves vastly outweighs men's ability to do the same. Yes, he will stand out positively, and I am not saying that dressing well, and maintaining good hygiene isn't a good thing (it should really be the bare mimimum) but the issue is the gaslighting by telling men that good fashion sense can somehow overcome the fact that he's 5'6" and scrawny, with no chin. In a room full of average guys the best dressed may stand out to a woman, but that obviously doesn't mean t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/10/21 12:55 AM
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It is extremely difficult for average men to attract women IN their league. Now, don't get me wrong, a good haircut and good fashion are good for standing out and good for confidence, but the idiotic argument that a scrawny 5'6" guy with no jaw can just throw on some Gucci threads and immediately start attracting women is patently horseshit. I've seen it quite often that it backfires and the guy just looks ridiculous trying so hard while being unattractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 08:16 PM
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Women are innately annoyed when men set any standards whatsoever for what they want in a partner. Women are supposed to be the sexual selectors, so any attempt by an average man to usurp that role triggers an immediate panic within, because she wants to have unlimited options from which to choose, and especially takes it as read that all average men should be available for her to settle with whenever she so chooses
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 08:07 PM
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No woman has ever went home with a balding 5'6" Indian guy because his fashion sense was brilliant. Chad in a plan black t-shirt will always do better than the best dressed average guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:40 PM
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No level of fashion and charisma will overcome being a scrawny 5'6" guy. Chads are typically the least fashionable people I see. When I see them out they are usually just wearing a t-shirt, jeans and trainers. Everyone with half a brain cell knows that immutable biological characteristics of height, face and frame are the overwhelming arbiters of whether a woman is attracted to a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:38 PM
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Or maybe the actually ugly incels are the ones who wouldn't show up to a public meetup with a bunch of strangers. These are the top level of incels who probably have hope if they just learned to stop being so socially awkward.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:35 PM
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Why do women always try to gaslight incels with this argument? It is the purest projection possible. Women only want the very top percentage of men, and can't get them (to commit), and so because women are mostly incapable of logical introspection they just assume that the male struggle is a mirror of their own. In reality, the vast majority of guys just want their looksmatch, preferably not after she has spent 15 years getting railed by various Chads before settling with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 04:33 PM
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No rational intelligent man thinks that, it's sweaty anime watching neckbeards who think that the mere fact of them being white is enough to have legions of attractive Japanese women swooning over them. Japan is the most western country in the world, their birthrate has tanked to the point that their population will likely FALL buy a third inside 40 years. Their women are the most hypergamous of anyone, Japanese Chads have never had it so good, but the government is now realising how catastrophi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:44 PM
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Because of the impossible demands women place upon them before they'll marry. They need to own their own home, make more than a certain amount of money, and basically consent to give her control of all his finances in exchange for extremely unenthusiastic starfish sex once per month until she has one or two kids, then never again. Hang on, that sounds familiar.......
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:38 PM
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Plenty of foreign fighters in the Taliban, the same as the many foreign fighters of the Mujahadeen in the 1980s i.e. Bin Laden
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:04 AM
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Just pointing it out for clarity. I did make that point, but remember that OLD is a thing, so if these white women actually wanted to date black guys, there is nothing stopping them finding one online. The fact that they don't often tells me everything I need to know. The statistics tell me that it isn't. Obviously many Hispanic women have light skin, so you wouldn't clock immediately that they were Hispanic.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/10/21 12:03 AM
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Black men and white women couples are not rare. Depends how you define rare. The statistics tell me that it isn't very common, hence why it's noticeable when one sees it. I assure you there are plenty of black drug dealers slaying tons of white pussy I said that most of these relationships are with white trash women, let's not sugarcoat it. College educated white women in decent careers do not date black guys, all statistics confirm this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:57 PM
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Lol, pretty much all these guys are tall/attractive. Average black guys have it even worse than average white guys. And no, in spite of cherry picking 14 examples, the vast majority of white women are not interested in dating black men, just like most black women are not interested in white men. White men engage in interracial relationships significantly more than white women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:44 PM
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One thing could be that he only started showing his true colours once she was deep into the relationship with him. Amazing how women have inbuilt personality detectors, which can immediately ascertain whether an unattractive guy posts misogynistic comments online, but which malfunctions and stops working almost as a rule whenever a 'hawt' cheating narcissist shows up. I have trouble believing that so many guys are Macchiavellian manipulators, with Einstein-level IQ tricking these women into rela…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:34 PM
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The average woman spends several hours per day mindlessly scrolling through Facebook, Twitter and Instagram, staring at innane bullshit and celebrity gossip, but I'm a loser because I like to talk to people online under cover of anonymity? As bad as this sub is, it is one of very few outlets where it is at least theoretically possible to have a rational debate on modern sexual dynamics. Can't have that debate in real life, lest you be denigrated as an incel for having the temerity to point out t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:13 PM
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They also don’t have any empathy for men because they assume that all men think, act, and have the same opportunities as the Chad types that they pay attention to It's less that they think that and more that Chads are the ONLY men they pay attention to, average and below average men are functionally invisible to them. As inert and disposable as a screwdriver, a mere tool to be used and put away until next needed, and not thought about in the interim.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:15 PM
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Not really, why do you think so many young Muslim men travel from all around the world to fight for ISIS, Al-Quaeda and the Taliban et al They lose themselves in their faith because it's about the only thing that gives them meaning. Many will indeed have joined for the chance to be rewarded in victory with a wife. We are currently putting a plaster over the wound in the form of porn and mindless mass entertainment, but at a certain point we will reach a critical mass of lonely incels looking aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 03:13 PM
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Because muh patriarchy! They basically allege that women can meet those standards, but that the patriarchy doesn't care and excludes them anyway. I wish I had some nebulous overwhelming force like the patriarchy on which to blame all of my problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:42 AM
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women can do anything a man can do except get another woman pregnant Woah, sweaty, there's a lot to unpack here. Are you suggesting that a woman with fully functional male genitalia cannot impregnate a woman with fully functioning female genitalia? That is highly transphobic, and I'll be taking my concerns to Twitter!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:33 AM
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Dude stop her doing that, lol No good programme should demand 3 sets of 20 on deadlift, that's going to fuck up her CNR if she keeps doing it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:32 AM
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Ummm, sweaty, did you just imply that a woman can't have fully functioning male genitalia? That is so transphobic, let's unpack this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:29 AM
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Because, let's be frank, the vast majority of white women who date black guys are white trash. The number of successful, educated white women having mixed babies with black guys is a negligible percentage. Black women date white men at lower rates than the reverse, but it isn't the completely uncommon occurrence as depicted in most media, yet I pretty much never see it portrayed anywhere. The most common interracial relationship in the US today is white man - Hispanic woman
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:25 AM
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Every racial group overwhelmingly marries members of the same racial group, regardless of circumstance. In group preferences are real and natural. Are you going to call out black women for the fact that they pretty much never date Indians or Asians? Black women date outside their race the least of any demographic.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/10/21 11:18 AM
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It' a disturbing modern trend that a person's character informs the validity of their argument. If an evil person says that it's raining, it doesn't suddenly turn dry in defiance. Things are the way they are, and the majority of guys on this sub all seem to agree. My own personal experience of going from a former fat guy with bad acne, to getting into top shape is the ultimate black/Redpill in regards to how looks affect people's mentality and interpersonal reactions. Everyone is suddenly much n…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 02:01 PM
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Because modern society does not allow women to be at fault for anything, so any way that things can be twisted so that they are the fault of men is encouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 10:23 AM
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Good points, I do understand not wanting to burst someone's bubble of comforting delusion and ruin their positive outlook on life I suppose my response would be that continuing to let these guys live in their worlds of bluepilled delusion hurts them in the long run, as it allows women and their bluepilled enablers to control the narrative of why they can't find anyone. It means that these men are constantly told that just being a nice, funny guy is all that's required to find love. Thus, when th…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/21 09:46 AM
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Never said they weren't, please quote where I even remotely intimated such an argument? I just said that poor white people in the south would have been richer without slavery, it was only the small percentage of slave owners who benefitted. The Roman Senate had to pass laws to limit the percentage of the rural work force that could be composed of slaves, as it was completely pricing citizen labourers out of work. Every slave society I've looked at suffered economically overall by the practice of…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 09:06 PM
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I'm guessing you are a white person Yes, Reddit is majority white, not hard to guess comes from the southern states of USA Nope, not even American, I hate the place. I live in a country which is overwhelmingly white, so the question of race is fairly moot here. The ethnic minorities which live here aren't an enslaved underclass, they're treated like anyone else. Did you even read what I posted? I literally said that the large majority of white people in the south were made worse off by slavery, …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 11:07 AM
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Bullshit. Yet another logical fallacy on this subject, in this case No True Scotsman. "Men don't care about women's body count!" "Yes we do, look at all these guys that care" "Okay, but quality men don't care" Any statement becomes meaningless when you can arbitrarily change the criteria whenever someone disagrees with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 09:05 AM
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SARMs is the next generation of steroids that is becoming more and more popular. Much less tested, varying quality, much more side effects, and much more dangerous. Very inaccurate to say that. We can't come to any real conclusions about SARMS being more dangerous or having more side effects than steroids because there has been next to no research on the effects of SARMs on humans. All preliminary research suggests that they are less effective than steroids, with fewer side effects, but nothing …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/21 08:56 AM
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It has never been this easy in the western world for a young man(18-25) If he's attractive, only if he is attractive. The unattractive guy meeting these criteria in that age range is not sleeping with beautiful women. We're continually told he is, but I have never seen it happen. With OLD it has never been easier for attractive guys to get laid, but that ease of access to the good looking guys only makes it worse for the ordinary ones, as superior options are a mere right swipe away
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 10:02 AM
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Where in Darwin's work does he say that? Slavery made the majority of whites in the American South much poorer than they would otherwise have been, since it stifled industrial growth significantly. Systemic racism is a meaningless term that changes to fit whatever arbitrary definition you need it to at any given moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:32 AM
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The public does have a right to know, it helps stop governmental malfeasance or cover ups. He so obviously did kill her, they aren't going to file murder charges without talking to him first, and ascertaining his location throughout the final few days of their trip. There is no statute of limitation on murder, there is no need to rush into anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:22 AM
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First, commonality of occurrence. Terror attacks in Paris are not common, terrorist attacks in Beirut are, and have been for decades. Second, a mass terrorist attack against the west is a great deal more relevant to my life than yet another suicide bombing in the Middle East. Why would we give any substantial coverage to that? The average western citizen doesn't know where Lebanon is, or the context behind the attack. Should the news waste time explaining the nuances of the various conflicts bet…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:18 AM
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The circumstances of this case have all the hallmarks of a Netflix investigative special in a few years time, so the media wont stop reporting because it's interesting to a large part of the public.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/21 09:14 AM
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Extremely difficult to marry up as a man though, most women, regardless of how rich and successful, will almost always want a man richer and more successful than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 12:55 PM
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I don't think the 53 year old abuelitas are fucking the janitor
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 12:52 PM
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Maybe in a bygone era, but those cleaning ladies have Tinder now, enabling them to get a better looking guy with no effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 11:56 AM
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NOOO! You can't be using your own and other men's consistent lived experiences and eyewitness testimony to come to conclusions about things! You need to just believe it when I tell you that it isn't true!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:43 AM
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If your chick wants to throw away a relationship with you away for a chance to bang a dude who doesn’t give a shit about her, that’s more of a fault with her. Just be glad you got a chance to see her true colors. After marrying her, and now you're on the hook for alimony, child support and loss of half of your assets. I agree with what you say, these women are immature hedonists, but they are STILL the women that some dudes will end up marrying, regardless of how obvious it is that they shouldn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:35 AM
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Game is important above a certain attractiveness threshold. Remember that what women view as the average man is very different to what men would view as average in themselves. So the average guy in women's minds is still pretty decent looking, so at that point having good game and an extroverted personality will serve him well in getting attention and standing out. There is no amount of game that will help a 5'6" bald Indian gentleman have consistent success with women, regardless of how extrove…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 09:28 AM
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Exactly. A few years of modern technological society has not changed our brains fundamental makeup, we are still the exact same big monkeys we were 50,000 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 08:52 AM
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Because no matter how often it is alleged, a few decades of feminism and contraception does not override hundreds of thousands of years of consistent sexual selection preferences. We are still the exact same hairless apes that we were when hunting mammoths.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 08:50 AM
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I mean if women want men to do shit all they have to do is ask and incentify and it will get done That's the problem, the incentives for men to do things for women are becoming fewer and fewer with each year. Many unattractive men are waking up to the fact that the majority of women do not even see them as a beings possessing sexual characteristics. They are realising that these women suddenly expressing interest in their 30s when their biological clock is ticking and Chad isn't picking up the p…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/21 08:14 AM
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They'll also support mass lockdowns that close local businesses and funnel even more spending towards Amazon.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 05:24 PM
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Then you're just disincentivising investments, and draining resources that could be used to expand and provide jobs, into the government's coffers, who you for some reason trust to spend it wisely and equitably, despite them having no track record of ever doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 04:03 PM
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Aren't the red pillers the guys who want to ''watch the decline,'' and just have as much sex with as many hot 18 year olds as possible, and when they turn 30 they will date 18 year olds because they are too high value for women their own age? No, that isn't at all what the Redpill is, that's what you've decided to perceive it as because it fits your preconceived biases against the concept. The RP is simply seeing the world for what it is. For being able to see that women are just people with fla…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 09:08 AM
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Depends if you're one of those people that thinks Jeff Bezos actually has $120 billion that can be taxed at 80%, and thus we can gather $96 billion in revenue from doing so. Some people genuinely think that this is how it works. The reason why billionaire's often seem to "pay so little tax" is that the lower rate on capital gains as opposed to income incentivises to continue investing in their business.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/21 08:58 AM
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Women know whether they'll fuck a guy within about 5 seconds of meeting him. If she is single, and sufficiently attracted to him, she will make this attraction clear the vast majority of the time: laughing at his jokes, standing close to him, constant glances.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/21 02:00 PM
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Because it gives them even greater power of rejection than they possess in day to day life as is. It ensures that an ugly guy asking a woman out is disciplined or fired for "harassment", while the attractive guys can be as forward and make as many sexual innuendos as he wants without consequences. Virtually the only different between "sexual harassment" and flirting is whether the man is attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/21 10:01 AM
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Common law marriage does not exist in most US states, nor does it exist it in any jurisdiction in the United Kingdom. Of course I agree that you should check, but it may well not apply at all in your state.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/21 08:11 PM
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Men are attracted to youth and beauty, as these are markers of fertility. I actually don't agree that women age worse, most older guys look just as horrible as their post wall wives. What I would say is that attractive men have a much easier time maintaining their attractiveness than attractive women. The qualities that make men attractive: height, musculature, jaw structure, are things that inherent to a man, or can be maintained through training. Women, despite the billions the cosmetic indust…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/21 01:59 PM
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Why would I go outside when such a large percentage of women in my age group are exclusively using OLD by this point? I'm only placing myself at a disadvantage by not devoting most of my time to those avenues that offer me the best return on my time investment. This is what baffles me about people who say "go outside" when men complain about the dating market. How can I go outside, when so many women aren't, women are the selectors, we're forced to follow them to wherever they assemble.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 02:49 PM
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The black pill isn't that one needs to be Chris Hemsworth level attractive to have a chance at dating, of course that's idiotic to think. Te black pill is that an ever increasing amount of guys outside the top 20% are getting zero attention or chances with women, because the looksmatch that he would have previously dated now has access to Chad/Chadlite via OLD, and so she doesn't even think to give him a chance, because another trip to Tinder will allow her to find someone more attractive within…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 02:32 PM
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Dude, what are you talking about, haha? The average guy wanting to build muscle does NOT need to eat 6-8 times a day. Unless you're Phil Heath competing at the Olympia, or Brian Shaw training for World's Strongest Man, then 3 meals, consisting of the right foods, is more than enough for most guys to pack on lean muscle. Supplements are mostly superfluous nonsense designed to appeal to average schlubs looking for a way to achieve Arnold's physique without any of that annoying "hard work" or "dedi…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 02:25 PM
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How many hours a day do you think the average poor person is working?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 02:12 PM
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Absolute nonsense. There are fully equipped commercial gyms that cost less than £20 per month, how many people are so poor than they can't afford £20 a month to get in shape? If not, then workout at home, buy a £20 pullup bar and use that along with push ups, sit ups etc to build muscle and definition, alongside running or cycling for cardio. It's nothing more than excuses to say poor people can't get in great shape.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 02:11 PM
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The top percentage of guys are having more sex than ever, thanks to online dating giving them instant access to so many women below their level of attractiveness. The less attractive guys are being excluded completely due to the availability of Chad/Chadlite to ALL women via OLD. 20 years ago women would have only had access to maybe 2/3 legitimate Chads in their day to life at most, now they have access to dozens or more via Tinder, and so now have no reason to temper their standards and become…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/21 01:59 PM
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As someone who went from being fairly ugly to a pretty good looking guy, this is literally all it is. My personality has barely changed at all, but women are just significantly more receptive to conversation with an attractive guy. Regardless of whether they are in a relationship, their social status is only enhanced by a good looking guy hitting on her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 01:45 PM
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It's directly proportional, the more attractive one is, the bigger a weirdo they can be and women will make excuses and put up with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 01:41 PM
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OLD is completely different in this regard. The thread was about approaching women in public, and when I go out on nights out, I never see scrawny Indians going up to 9/10 Stacies and trying to pull them. OLD does not engender anywhere near the same fear of rejection as an IRL approach does. Plus, when you get that old, you stop giving a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/21 09:04 AM
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TRP is nothing to do with sex and dating, it does not have a coherent political philosophy that it teaches its members. Those are PUA scam artists trying to manipulate lonely, unattractive men who have come looking for answers, into buying their stupid PUA guide, or subscribing or following them. Spinning plates, dread game, obviously do not work if you're unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 08:39 PM
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Halo and Horn Effect Whatever the attractive guy says will be interpreted in the most favourable light possible, the ugly guy will suffer the reverse. Attractive guys can say and do shit that no ugly guy could without being labelled a massive creep.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 08:34 PM
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Agree with what you've said, except: realistically men attempt to punch above their weight much more often than punch in their own weight class so that's less likely true. Even after all this time I still cannot comprehend where this idea comes from that ugly men are going around asking out or trying to pull women significantly more attractive than them, I almost never see it in real life despite it being alleged here and elsewhere that it is a widespread phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/21 08:30 PM
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I so very rarely see unattractive guys approach or talking to attractive women that it absolutely boggles my mind that this is something that people still believe. Unattractive guys are not getting laid because online dating means that women are basically just rotating the top percentage of attractive guys amongst themselves, which cuts most men adrift. Where previously a woman might have encountered a handful of Chads in day to day life, and thus have a more realistic expectations about the kin…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 11:08 PM
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Yes, but they're happy to fuck Becky if Stacey isn't available. If women can't get Chad they usually prefer to just stay alone, at least when they're young.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/21 01:24 PM
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Stacy has far far more options than Chad. She isn't interested in the vast majority of those options though. Chad's options are near limitless because every woman is vying for his attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/21 04:24 PM
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Women don't want men while men aren't wanted. Women don't want most men. The men they do want, they want badly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/21 08:50 AM
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The most radical element of any group is always the most vocal, and the best known as a result. The vast majority of incels are just sad, lonely men venting online, but because a small handful have done horrible things, the entire community is generalised as being like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 01:48 PM
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Good summation. I see the Redpill as a tool to be used in one's own life, just as a hammer is used to put nails in things, or alternatively employed to smash someone's head in. The hammer itself has no will or desire, it is merely a tool in the hands of the person using it. The Redpill is just the ability to smash through the Bluepill delusions that society pushes onto us at an early age, and which fall apart when one actually looks around, and accepts that what they see with their own eyes is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 01:39 PM
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Redpill is not about sex. It literally comes from the Matrix, about choosing to see the world how it truly is, rather than live in blissful ignorance. The Redpill has simply helped me and thousands more men appreciate what women are actually like. That they are not chaste, perfect beings who warrant being put on a pedestal, they're just people, and should be treated as such.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/21 12:51 PM
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Like I say, only about 1 in 20 men will be a Chad, and back in my days of the 1990's he was usually more selective in who he fucked/dated. This shut many slim but plain Jane's out, making them choose their relative average Joe looksmatch, or remain alone. Absolutely. Chad at this point realised that being a massive man whore and fucking, or attempting to fuck, every woman in the vicinity was counterproductive, it only got them a negative reputation which hurt them with the most attractive Stacie…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 05:11 PM
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So one male child, in one classroom, in one school, said he didn't believe she was raped, and this somehow proves something?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 01:01 PM
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Yes, because government welfare has replaced a husband for many women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 11:05 AM
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That seems right to me, but the issue is now that prior to online dating, the odds of encountering Chad in day to day life is pretty low, however with online dating every woman now has the ability to swipe left until she finds Chad, whom she would never have encountered if not for online dating. I'm waiting for the penny to drop with women that these attractive guys they're banging are also banging multiple other women at the same time.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 10:56 AM
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Why couldn't it be? They're planning to rule Afghanistan in the way it has been ruled for 1000 years, why wouldn't they be able to do so now?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 10:13 AM
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And who gave men the authority to allow women to do anything? The sexually dimorphic nature of our species
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 10:05 AM
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This is one of the worst takes I've ever seen on this sub (and that's really saying something) Expecting men to stand and fight to the death in a battle they can't win is idiocy. Men protect women from so much every day, not just from violence, but from the consequences of their own actions, since women are never at fault for anything that ever happens to them anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/21 09:48 AM
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You're stawmanning here, multiple people have said that things she tried once and genuinely didn't like aren't what's being discussed, the point being made is that if she was willing to fulfill the fantasies of the hot guys she used to date, because they were just so hot she wanted to do everything to keep them around, and won't do the same for the man she married and promised to love, then that's a very reasonable deal breaker for a lot of us guys
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 08:16 PM
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Yeah, yeah, nothing a woman ever does is her own fault, every single one of her exes just happened to be Enstein-level genius Machivellian manipulators who consistently made her do stuff she 100% didn't want to do, and not at all a hot guy who gave her tingles to the extent that she was willing to do anything to maintain his interest in her, because she knows he has many alternative options when he gets tired of her. Imagine I started going out with a girl, and told her that I used to take my ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 03:06 PM
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Because their biological clock is ticking, and the guys they are attracted to, the guys who were willing to pump and dump her in her early 20s, no longer want anything to do with her; they're all either married, or sleeping with younger, more attractive women. As a result she must find some beta provider, who basically didn't get laid at all in his 20s, so that she isn't completely excluded from marriage and kids at a time when her friends are all marrying and settling down.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/21 11:24 AM
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College women are sharing the same top guys, perhaps as their only college sexual experience. This definitely meshes with my experience. Most guys I knew at uni weren't getting laid at all, but the top shaggers were able to rack up ridiculous body counts, 50+ per year for some. The only way the math on this works is if most of the women were just cycling through the top echelon of guys, while the majority below got nothing. These guys redpilled me before I even knew what it was. Thing is that th…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/21 11:15 AM
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What women find distasteful in a conversation is different to what a group of men would find distasteful. The young lad certainly wouldn't feel comfortable talking about sex in front of a woman. They may ask why they keep getting told that women like guys that are funny, kind and emotionally vulnerable, when guys who are the antithesis of this seem to have significantly more success? Maybe a group of men will help provide some context, and validate his observations, women will simply gaslight an…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 10:22 AM
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Telling their sons that young women are attracted to kindness, emotional vulnerability, and guys behaving like doormats for women, which is demonstrably untrue, hence the RP becoming more and more widespread. Telling him that sure, his crush is fucking a toxic asshole at the moment, but that in 10 years time when she is significantly less attractive and unable to pair bond, when the assholes have had their fun with her, then she'll realise what a great guy he is and will want to be with him then…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/21 10:09 AM
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Tall women want taller men, the fact that they're tall excludes an even larger percentage of men than normal women's height requirements do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 02:32 PM
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Because young lads are going to feel unable to ask the questions they want to know because the women will find them distasteful and give him some bluepilled nonsense as a response
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 12:36 PM
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I agree that it's unintentional most of the time, but it demonstrates a huge lack of self awareness on the women's part. They're advising their son to act like the sort of man they would want to date now, as in their late 30s and 40s, rather than telling him to act how he would have needed to in order to get her interested when she was in HS or college. Just another reason fathers are so important in a young boy's life, and why so many sons of single mothers end up as either beta simps, or toxic…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/21 09:32 AM
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Also you'll never be a priority. You're forgetting that as men we should just sacrifice our own happiness and financial security to bail a woman out of her bad choices Women will continually tell each other to dump a guy if he isn't making her his main priority, but will lambast men who won't date a single mum knowing right off the bat that he will never be her priority
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 05:43 PM
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It's a societal "Boy Who Cried Wolf" I've heard so many girls describe their exes as abusive that I almost never believe it any more. To many modern women, an abusive ex is someone who isn't completely fine with her going out and doing whatever she wants, whenever she wants; to do otherwise is considered "controlling"
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 05:39 PM
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Because generalisations help us make advantageous decisions in an evolutionary sense. I know a few single mothers, they're lovely people, but I would never date them because no matter how nice they are, the litany of problems caused by their situation just makes it not worth it to try. I don't need to deal with drama from the kid's dad, I don't need to constantly be worrying if she's going to just dump me and go back to him (as they very often do), the fact that everything has to be planned in a…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 05:34 PM
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Anyone can not want to date someone for any reason whatsoever, it's just the dissonance from single mothers complaining that no guy will go near them because of their kid, while they mostly have absolutely no interest in dating a single father.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 05:21 PM
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The RP is not about women or dating, a lot of you in this thread really aren't getting this. The RP is a way of looking at the world and making sense of it. A lot of people apply it to relationships because they're incredibly important, and this is where an obvious source of dissonance arises for a lot of guys, girls they know will describe their ideal guy as kind, funny, caring, then go out and date a guy who possesses none of these qualities, so the RP helps smash the BP delusion, and acknowle…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/21 12:18 AM
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That is not what RP is about, it has nothing to do with women, though many apply it to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 01:20 PM
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The RP is not a dating strategy. If individual Redpillers want to apply the tools provided by the RP to their love life, then that's fine. The RP is a just a way of looking at the world and simplifying things by looking at the direct evidence in front of them, rather than allowing themselves to be endlessly gaslit about how everything is really one way, but their own lived experiences tell them it's another. Yes, I agree, some supposedly RP guys have absolutely awful takes on women, dating, flir…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 01:15 PM
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Slightly tortured analogy, but don't think of it as a philosophy with specific covenants, think it like a tool to be used. A car is a tool with many uses, some people use it to commute, others to deliver items, a few use it to race in various forms, and handful throughout history have used it facilitate murder or other crimes. It is not the fault of the car if a small number of people want to use it for such a purpose, similarly it is not the fault of the RP that some men want to use it justify …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 01:05 PM
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Again, RP is just a lens to see the world as it is. All guys subconsciously know that showing weakness and vulnerability are huge turn offs to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:24 AM
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You're being intentional obtuse, and badly strawmanning what we're saying. Western society has exalted the cult of the individual for a long time now, everything is geared towards allowing individuals to just do whatever they want, with no thought as to whether it is beneficial to wider society. Yet when we're now doing the same, pursuing the path that brings us the most individual fulfillment, then all of a sudden people like you reverse course, and start talking about how we need to put aside …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 10:23 AM
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Any large movement inevitably develops somewhat extreme fringe elements. Red Pill is just a tool for looking at the world and understanding it as it is, rather than how we wish it would be. What individuals choose to do (or try to do) with this information is their own choice, and their behaviour hardly reflects on the ideology itself, which is fairly sound common sense advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/21 09:24 AM
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Because fat women are unattractive, and they're unattractive for a quality that is almost entirely within their control. It's become a meme at this point, but the cast majority of women in their 20s need only not be fat to be considered attractive by the vast majority of guys. Women are not railing against their friends for refusing to date fat men, so why do so many women get pissed when guys evince a similar lack of attraction to fat women? And as to single mothers, don't be obtuse, you know f…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/21 09:20 PM
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PUA culture is not redpill
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/21 09:13 PM
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Why do these talking points still get trotted out? The reason as to why most modern men are not getting laid has nothing to do with them being unfashionable, or having bad hygiene. In the multiple threads on this sub discussing what women's primary physical preferences for men are, the three universal features are face, height and frame, none of which can be looksmaxxed to any significant degree. Obviously men should look their best and lift, but people who push the idea that guys who aren't get…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/21 09:26 AM
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not everything fits into neat little boxes. Online dating has essentially put everything into a neat little box. I can't count the number of bios I've seen telling men under 6" to not bother getting in contact, and that's not just on Tinder by the way, it's on proper dating websites with lengthy essays about oneself, and compatibility tests. When women are being inundated with hundreds of messages a day, they need some way to narrow down the field, and height is typically not just a multiplier f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:37 PM
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It's symptomatic of the modern feminist narrative that women can "have it all" in every aspect of their lives. Modern women think that they can purge men of "toxic masculinity" while retaining the traditionally masculine traits to which they are attracted. Basically modern feminism in a nutshell, they want all the rights and benefits of equality, with none of the attendant responsibility. Feminists love to go on about a "rape culture", yet proceed to get pissed off that men aren't pursing them a…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 04:25 PM
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Yes, I believe the rate of male sexlessness to be higher than reported in the study
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 02:57 PM
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Women will use an extreme amount of mental gymnastics to explain how a particular sexual encounter doesn't 'count' towards her body count
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:52 PM
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There wasn't a singular event that served to open my eyes, it was an accumulation of witnessing the incongruity of what women said versus what they actually did. Once I went to university and stayed in student halls, I saw up close the kind of guys that the girls continuously brought home and slept with, despite these same girls bemoaning these kinds of guys whenever we would drink together and discuss sex and relationships. And these girls were in all other ways respectable middle class univers…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 01:46 PM
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The ultimate irony is that the men SJW culture creates are the exact opposites of the sort of guys that SJW women are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:18 PM
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"I would totally prefer to date someone my own height, but it just so happens my boyfriend is in the 99th percentile of height for his age and is a full foot taller than me, tee hee!" Lol, it is not wrong that women prefer taller guys, I'm a very tall guy myself and have benefitted from this preference, but it is consistently funny when women claim that it's just pure coincidence that of all the guys her own height (that she supposedly prefers), not one met her other standards, which just so hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 12:08 PM
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With white women if she complains a lot about a particular guy, talks about how terrible he is, lots of drama then she’s probably fucking him. This has absolutely been my experience as well. I remember being a naive young bluepilled guy starting at university, and being blown away by how often the girls ended up sleeping with the guys they claimed to hate; the arrogant, fuckboi archetypes who treated them like shit, but gave them tingles. Remember, the opposite of love isn't hate, it's indiffere…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 11:34 AM
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No, but I can look at my own lived experiences and conclude that it is a ridiculous notion that in a world in which women can literally spend 15 minutes on Tinder and find at least 10 guys willing to hook up, that fully half of them are claiming that they aren't having sex These are self reported statistics, which are notoriously unreliable, especially considering how much we know women lie about their body counts and sexual histories, and the sort of mental gymnastics they'll engage in to justi…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 09:02 AM
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You're on the right track, but women can access casual sex with guys out of their league at almost any time via OLD. Sure, these guys won't get into relationships with them, but they'll pump and dump them quite happily. Women would rather stay single than date a guy they consider well below their league, it's true, and the number of guys about whom they think this is only growing, but they are still having sex; they're just engaging in their usual mental gymnastics to justify why their recent se…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/21 08:57 AM
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There is absolutely no chance of me believing that a full 50% of women aren't having sex at university, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/21 08:22 PM
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Micro penis. Girl told once how her friend went back with a guy who had a micro penis, and had to leave because she couldn't stop laughing. I can't even imagine how badly that would shred one's self confidence. At least ugly people get some positive reinforcement (even if only platitudes), but having a micro penis would just mean suffering in silence.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/21 12:32 PM
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I thought this was a subreddit to debate these exact sort of issues, haha. How does that not concern me, yet somehow concerns you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/21 04:47 PM
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That's not the impression you gave off Haha, definition of the Halo Effect. You heard a guy with what you perceived to be an unpleasant personality, and immediately perceived him as being short and unattractive, haha You have absolutely no context for evaluating my physical appearance in light of what I said, yet because I said something you don't like, you automatically made the association between: Unpleasant - Unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 10:21 PM
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Haha, they can't even lie properly They always construct this unbelievable short, balding Indian janitor who sleeps with Margot Robbie lookalikes every weekend. I know somewhat unattractive guys who do occasionally get laid, it's just that the women aren't particularly good looking, nor does it happen at all consistently
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:43 PM
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Fair enough I know you didn't mean to be patronising, I just mean that this sort of advice, which women and good looking guys give to unattractive guys all the time, is in itself very patronising. I think blame is a strong word, neither men nor women have any right to be apportioning blame, however for those who do, we have a right to call them out When a 32 year old woman laments about how there are no good men out there, and that she can't get into a relationship, then it's fine to tell her: "…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 01:39 PM
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Crude and lewd behaviour from a tall attractive guy is welcomed by women. I have done it myself, and seen it happen so often over the years. Now, maybe as a guy in his early 20s the girls I interact with are in their most promiscuous period and are more susceptible to doing this, but let's not pretend that behaviour which is acceptable from Chad would in any way be tolerated from a short, balding guy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:24 AM
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Seen Chads do all the other things and women still thought of them as good guys. Halo Effect, everything makes sense when this is taken into account
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:22 AM
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a dude who is short, or is balding, or has an average to below face, or combination of those won’t get the same success What about all these short unattractive guys who are confident and absolutely slay? I mean, I don't know any, but places like this sub tell me they definitely exist; maybe they're all just talking about the same guy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 11:17 AM
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Getting off online dating doesn't work when it's the only way that a substantial portion of women are meeting guys. I'd love to delete all dating apps forever, but it isn't realistic This is all good, albeit quite patronising and common advice, but can I just touch on this 'get a hobby' nonsense that pops up on these types of threads My hobbies are kickboxing and football, so just where am I supposed to meet women doing that? It seems to be such contradictory advice to tell people to not be a cr…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:27 AM
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That just isn't true
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/21 09:13 AM
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Still doesn't matter, haha She can still say she revoked consent after the video, or that she revoked consent in her head and was too afraid to say anything
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:16 PM
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No, men are always presumed to be consenting, regardless of if he's drunk as a skunk, and she is stone cold sober I remember being very drunk and calling a girl I'd occasionally hooked up with to pick me up, whereupon we went to mine and had sex. Was I raped because I was too drunk to consent?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 01:13 PM
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No, these laws don't apply to women because men are horny Neanderthals who are always presumed to be consenting to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/21 12:58 PM
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Saying 12 year old just tells me you're not making this argument in good faith, nothing in those articles mentions 12 year olds, Physically, obviously men are attracted to youth, but even I as a man in my early 20s would never contemplate a relationship with anyone under 21. They are so boring and immature, I've slept with quite a few, and I genuinely don't remember a single thing any of them have ever said to me
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 03:19 PM
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men vastly prefer barely legal “women I wish this myth would just die already. In most cases it seems nothing but a panacea for bitter older women to rationalise why no tall, handsome millionaire has materialised out of nowhere and swept her off her feet, rather than acknowledge the mistakes she's made that have led to her being 37 and single. "It's not my bitter, entitled personality combined with my ridiculously high standards for what I expect in a man that have rendered me single, it's becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:31 AM
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And we don't have them every day now, again it's media sensationalism
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/21 09:16 AM
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My two cents is that most of them don't even realise that they're giving shit advice When women give any kind of dating advice it always presupposes that the guy is attractive, which goes without saying amongst women when discussing guys
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/21 08:56 AM
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Same answer as most other questions posed on this subreddit It almost entirely depends on whether the guy is attractive or not A short, ugly guy being very forward would be seen as creepy and perverted, while a tall handsome guy displaying the behaviour would be welcomed, even by women in relationships who had no intention of sleeping or doing anything
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 03:11 PM
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China having millions of surplus men is bad, and there will be serious consequences in the long run, but millions of men spread over a huge country of 1.5 billion people, combined with China being hugely authoritarian, and the collectivist nature of the Chinese to begin with means it is not going to pose any major problems just yet The bottom line is that the radical men trying to overthrow things won't be the main problem, it will be convincing the rest of the lower level men of society to figh…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/21 10:22 AM
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It's based on whether they feel as though the guy could protect them. A women is much more likely to be attracted to a skinny tall pretty boy (a la Machine Gun Kelly or Shawn Mendes) over a well built, trained shorter guy who could decimate either within seconds of a real fight Women have next to knowledge or experience of how fights actually work, because they aren't getting into them or really even witnessing them in their youth. They just have the perception that the taller a guy is, the stro…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:40 PM
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Yeah, man, it’s 99.9% of the time mentally ill or immature women. No need to concern yourself with it tbh This is so obviously not true. Every time it's the same "No True Scotsman" fallacy used to counter this. Only mentally ill or immature women date these obviously incredibly unsuitable men, and the proof that they're mentally ill or immature is that they're dating these unsuitable men So it just ends up with a circular logic that leaves no possibility to argue against you or prove you wrong, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:28 PM
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So she wants men that are sexually aggressive and hot, but fears men that are sexually aggressive but ugly. This is what it comes down to, and it is hilarious that women still act as though it isn't. Attractive guys can get away with sexual innuendo and aggression that would he perceived as incredibly creepy or dangerous coming from an unattractive guy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/21 02:25 PM
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Again, it all depends on looks If a 5'5 skinny guy acts like an asshole, then he's going to be seen as an unlikeable little prick by women, but that same behaviour from a handsome 6'5 guy will probably turn her on, as she'll interpret it as confidence and charisma
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/21 09:38 AM
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To hear the women on this sub tell it, all these men were Harvard level genius manipulators who displayed no red flag behaviour prior to women getting together with them
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/21 11:10 AM
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Then what, go to prison for a premeditated assault with a weapon? He gets huge amounts of sympathy, and you spend 10 years getting raped in prison.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/21 09:17 AM
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"Don't worry bro, one day he'll be working for us" Bully proceeds to get full athletic scholarship to prestigious university and spend 4 years fucking the cheerleaders
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/21 11:14 PM
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Would break the world's bluepill tinted glasses forever, I'd think Most guys would come to understand just how little attraction women in general have for them, while witnessing the huge amount of attention the same small number of attractive guys receives
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/21 08:33 PM
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Whether a capitalist, communist, or other system, is irrelevant The functionality and prosperity of society as a whole increases the more that we're willing to abjure our own individuality and maximise our productive capacity on behalf of society itself, regardless of just how boring and depressing that might be Say I'm an amazing computer programmer, but decide one day that I'm going to quit that job to pursue my dream of being a florist. I'd probably be a lot happier as a florist, I'd be much …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/21 05:36 AM
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The more attractive a woman is the higher her standards are going to be for a relationship Disagree. Maybe in the past this was the case, but in the modern day even bang average women think they're entitled to a committed relationship with a chad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 03:09 AM
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Phil Heath doesn't deadlift, as do a lot of other bodybuilders Ronnie was the GOAT, but his strength is not indicative of most bodybuilders; he was by far the strongest Mr. Olympia we've ever had
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/21 12:54 AM
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All excellent points. The main one for me is always the fact that when it comes to financial, social and emotional support, you are the father, whereas when it comes to discipline and instilling your values, all of a sudden you aren't their dad
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 06:06 PM
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I'm more inclined to think it's because women are viscerally turned off at the idea of being impregnated by a genetically inferior male Got it in one, when a woman finds a man sufficiently attractive, they will rationalise almost anything he says or does in the best possible light
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/21 01:10 AM
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All women like sexually attractive men, of which bad boys are a subgroup. Sums it up in one. Doesn't matter if you're a cocky bad boy, or a genuinely lovely guy, so long as you are sufficiently attractive, that's all you need
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 02:32 AM
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How do you define it? It's such a nebulous term that it is entirely meaningless outside of extreme examples
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 02:29 AM
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Guys do the same shit. "My equal won't have casual sex with me! Women are too picky!" Men are complaining that their looksmatch won't sleep with them, women complain that a guy well above their looks level won't commit to them. No one owes anyone sex or commitment, but let's not mischaracterise what they're each saying Yes if she's one of the 3 I talked about. Don't even know how to respond to that, if you're just going to unilaterally declare that there are only 3 of these women in their 20s(?)…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/21 02:27 AM
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Because the stepfather was probably a weak beta as well, or the mother never allowed the stepfather to adequately discipline him because "you're not his father" Doing whatever you want is the antithesis of being masculine. A guy who drifts through life without discipline or character almost always amounts to nothing in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/21 12:11 AM
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Wow! One woman divorced one attractive guy, that invalidates everything that's been said! As if Channing Tatum wasn't immediately out banging 10s within a short time from the divorce
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/21 05:19 PM
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This is what the people making these arguments never to seem to understand They seem to genuinely think that men can obtain casual sex with the most attractive women on the same level as women can with attractive men To be honest, almost every one of these related arguments makes perfect sense if you accept the incel assertion that women only view the most attractive 20% of men as even being men at all, and don't even recognise the rest as people Not saying I agree, but their arguments, which se…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/21 10:00 AM
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Because the vast majority of men can't get anything at all As was said above, women are only interested in hooking up with the top 20% of men, each of whom is fucking multiple women So the top guys are having more sex, but in terms of pure numbers, far more women are having sex than men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 05:44 PM
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incel subs are full of men talking about how disgusting fat women are and how they'd never date them I follow the incel sub to see what sort of things they post, and I pretty much never see anything like this. In fact, they repeatedly talk about how they would be more than happy to date a woman of equivalent attractiveness, but that women's egos have gotten so inflated that even blatantly unattractive fat women have ridiculously high standards
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 05:38 PM
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Pretty much indisputable by this point that looks inform personality almost completely If a guy is good looking enough, women will rationalise almost any behaviour from him, regardless of how much of a red flag it is
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 05:34 PM
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There is no equivalent action men can take to increase their attractiveness to women There's nothing a 5'7" guy can do about his height And suggesting some sort of jaw surgery is so classist, these things cost thousands and are going to be out of reach, financially, for most men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 04:11 PM
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Women's perception of a guy's personality derives almost entirely from how attractive she finds him If she finds him sufficiently attractive, then she will rationalise almost any aspect of his behaviour, and look at it in the most positive way What sort of things on a profile would put you off meeting a guy you found sufficiently attractive? Very few, I should imagine
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/21 04:03 PM
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Women just want a guy that's taller than them. That's all. We'll just have to agree to disagree. Obviously, being taller than them is the minimum required, but the overwhelming majority are going to find an average faced 6'2" guy to be more attractive than a guy of equal facial attractiveness at 5'6" I just linked you to a study that shows female sexual attraction has greater variability I've disregarded this study for the same reasons I disregard all such studies that purport to "prove" that wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 11:45 PM
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You see ugly women with men they settled for after Chad wouldn't commit to them, and whom they treat with barely concealed contempt, resulting in a DB and her inevitably cheating and/or leaving the moment a better option comes along
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 11:10 PM
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No, tall means taller than them. Since most men are taller than most woman that does not eliminate the majority of the population Nah, don't buy that for a second. Women want a man who is taller than most other men, not taller than her Also, ask most men to describe their ideal woman and they'd describe a blond with large breasts and a pretty face Calling bullshit on that one. Some men are going to prefer brunettes, others prefer redheads, some prefer smaller breasts, others like short haired to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 03:19 PM
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Oh, come on Women aren't attracted to most men but they're not all attracted to the same type of men Most women's description of what they find attractive is much narrower than men's Ask most women to describe their ideal man and he will almost invariably be described as tall, meaning 6 foot plus, which automatically eliminates the large majority of the population Men have no such requirement that excludes such a large proportion of women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 01:34 PM
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Yes, because at that point those women are stepping off the cock carousel, and trying to snag a beta bux to support them now that their looks are rapidly depreciating, and they're about to hit the wall These women gave their years of prime sexual attractiveness and fertility to a sequence of good looking guys, to whom she was actually attracted, but now that these guys have either gotten married, or continue to fuck younger women, the used up ho will very reluctantly settle for an average man to…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/21 01:29 PM
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Sure, but there are some universalities Being tall is the obvious one, close to 100% of women want a guy who is taller than them, which isn't too bad, but most women want a guy who is significantly taller than them, hence the proliferation of "6 foot and above only" criteria on online dating, which excludes the vast majority of the male population, especially ethnic populations
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/21 12:19 AM
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You are way overthinking this and sincerely overplaying the role of genetics He really isn't, genetics places a hard cap on what can be achieved All men should be lifting and training, absolutely, and I agree that the whole "woah is me" attitude is the wrong perspective to have, but acting as though the average Joe can just hit the gym for a few months, and come out looking like prime Schwarzenegger, is pretty dangerous mentality, in my opinion A close friend of mine is a supremely dedicated lif…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 12:59 PM
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A man cannot make himself tall, or change the shape of his jaw or eyes Ergo any effort he makes to be "hot" will have minimal effect
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 12:36 PM
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Complete false equivalence There is no comparable beauty industry that even could exist for men As has been said repeatedly, and as you are completely aware even if you won't admit it, is that the attractive characteristics in men are immutable genetics that can't be changed Nothing can be done to make a 5'6" guy 6'3", or restore the hair of a guy who is thinning and balding, or change the shape of the jaw
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:24 AM
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No one is saying that being tall automatically makes one attractive But being tall is a hugely attractive trait to women, so you're starting from a much higher floor of potential attractiveness than a similar looking guy who is 5'6"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:18 AM
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I genuinely don't see the point in this question being asked repeatedly, it inevitably devolves into women proffering the most banal bluepill advice, or making really unhelpful equivalences between men and women None of those things are in any way a deal breaker for most men. Most men don't give a shit about your nose, or your tit size, or if you've got a little bit of body hair. We just don't care Women are attracted to a guy's height, frame and face. An ill dressed unemployed slob, who happens…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 10:12 AM
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Of course not Getting fucked by tall, attractive guys on the other hand......
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 09:58 AM
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They don't get wet for the look, they get wet for the Chad It's likely to look really stupid on an average guy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 09:57 AM
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Because men know that women have a primal disgust towards emotionally vulnerable men There's a reason why every Red and Black piller around constantly cautions men against showing any emotional vulnerability around women, because inside they are harshly judging you for it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/21 08:54 PM
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Halo/Horn Effect in action Short, skinny guy acting the bad boy = extremely cringeworthy and embarrassing, clearly overcompensating Tall, muscular guy acts the bad boy = complete opposite
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/21 05:04 AM
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Wow, I've heard it all now Women being attracted to men is somehow men's fault The mind boggles
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/21 12:07 AM
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Because usually "well you walked in a bad neighborhood, what did you think was going to happen" isn't used as a successful defense in mugging cases? And that's not what anyone is arguing. But the first question to someone mugged in the ghetto at 3am is going to be about what the hell they were doing there I'm not saying women should get wasted drunk, strip naked, and go on walks at 4am in seedy parts of town or anything, I'm saying society consistently takes any impure behavior on women's part (…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 01:49 AM
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I think the implication is that female promiscuity, particularly in college, and especially when it involves drug and alcohol abuse, puts women in a position wherein they are much more likely to become victims of sexual assault than they would be if they had just not engaged in such hedonistic behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 01:39 AM
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Whoa, hold up, sweaty! Are you suggesting that women ought to be somewhat responsible for the consequences of their own actions? Because that is a very problematic mindset. Who hurt you?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/21 01:36 AM
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In the universe I live in, I see unattractive men with girlfriends and wives all the time. Seems that not all unattractive men are "not even looked upon as a option No one has ever disputed this, ever. What is said is that most of the time this involves women who have finally accepted that they'll never get Chad to commit, and so move to secure a normal guy in order to do the whole marriage and kids thing before her biological clock strikes midnight But these betabux won't get even a tenth of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 11:19 PM
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Black pill doesn't even allege that women are trash. Though some people manifest their own interpretation of the blackpill in such a way, it really just states the blindingly obvious fact that physical attractiveness is the most important factor in whether a woman will consider dating a guy The issue is that most women, even those on this subreddit, with full anonymity assured, still continue to gaslight men on the issue, telling them that looks arent even that important, and that personality is…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 05:01 PM
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It's called......a metaphor The rate of sexlessness amongst young men has significantly increased, while women's decreased slightly Given that men have a strong propensity to lie and inflate their numbers, while women almost always reduce theirs, along with anecdotal evidence I've seen, means I'm convinced its worse than the data suggests The only way this makes sense is if most women are sharing a small number of top tier men, while the majority aren't even looked upon as option Any man can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/21 03:08 PM
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Spot on. I've had two friends get into relationships with reformed sluts, who treat them like shit, just because they're so desperate for any kind of relationship at all Bit of an eye opener to see these funny, charismatic guys being so unsuccessful with women, simply because they're short and skinny
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/21 11:28 PM
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They settle for them because the attractive guy they actually wanted to commit dumped her ass, and have minimal sex out of obligation
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 05:57 PM
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I'm honestly not sure what shallow unrealistic expectations you're talking about. Maybe height You know full well what he's talking about. You know that women can be overweight and unattractive, yet will somehow still feel entitled to a tall, handsome, muscular guy, in spite of having next to nothing to offer herself Yet more gaslighting, I wonder just how often this sort of nonsense needs to be rejected by almost every guy on this sub before it stops being posted. I have never witnessed an attr…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 05:18 PM
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That's such a strawman, you haven't refuted anything he said about women, just starting talking about a male equivalence, which isn't relevant Yes you do. You guys lie about women being high n count Women consistently lie about their n-count, there's a reason so many guys allege this, because for so many of us we have multiple real life examples of it you lie about women's height preference In what way? Women prefer taller men, that's an indisputable fact, and taller in this context means taller…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 04:02 PM
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Men don't deny that physical attractiveness is the primary motivator in them being attracted to a woman Women continually deny that physical attractiveness is the most important factor for them, instead choosing to gaslight guys by alleging that some nebulous "niceness" is the most important factor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 03:47 PM
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Better to just cut straight to the source and observe what turns women on. Especially since their words often completely contradict their actions. Best advice I've ever gotten with regards to women. Always believe their actions, and never their words
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 03:46 PM
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What you've written isn't untrue, but you've committed a pretty big lie of omission All these traits are only sought after when the man is attractive A 5'6", facially unattractive skinny guy displaying all these qualities is most certainly not going to be highly sought after, because the reverse halo effect means that his every attempt to adhere to these qualities is going to be viewed negatively When he acts confident, he's overcompensating, and it comes across as forced When he tries to be fli…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 03:17 PM
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Lmfao, every survey on this topic shows that women find the vast majority of men unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/21 02:44 PM
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But 90% of the time they will choose the cut, good looking, 5’6” ski instructor who also rides motorcycles over the skinny, average-looking, 6’4” drug-dealer (unless she is a drug addict). We'll just have to agree to disagree. Both anecdotal evidence from my own life, and from what I've read online, tells me that this just flat out isn't the case. I know for a fact that I wouldnt have had half the success I've had with women were it not for the fact that I'm 6'5". Seeing my own short friends so …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 09:26 PM
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9 times out of 10 a woman will choose a skinny 6'4" pretty boy drug dealer, over an unattractive 5'6" guy in a high paying job, at least while in their 20s It only flips when the woman feels her biological clock rapidly ticking and decides to find some beta she isn't even attracted to to settle down with
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 05:16 PM
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I genuinely can't believe that people are still making the highly damaging assertion that if you can't get a relationship, or even a ONS, then it is 100% your fault, it is entirely internal to you, and if you just changed some nebulous facet of your personality, then all those women who never looked twice at you before will suddenly be fighting each other to talk to you - it's bullshit, and it doesn't happen Newsflash: if you're a 5'6" man, then youre automatically going to be excluded from dati…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/21 12:09 PM
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I just wish people would acknowledge it, more than anything It's an innate reaction in women's brain, no one is doing anything wrong A 9/10 guy could literally walk up to most women, propose they bang, and even if they said no, their brains wouldn't allow them to actually be angry, they would be flattered that such an attractive man adjudged them attractive enough to warrant propositioning them, even if they feigned anger it would obvious that their heart wasn't really in it, and that it was not…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:53 AM
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Sometimes, but there are fairly objective standards that can be applied Very, very few women would say that they find a man being short a more attractive quality than him being tall
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:47 AM
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There are many average men even slightly below average, who in relationships Yes, when the woman has spent a decade being used as a cum rag by a litany of chads, and decides it's time for some average schlub to betabuxx for her and chad's bastards She will never give him anything close to the adoration and devotion she gave to the physically attractive men she used to fuck. He has to beg and bargain his way into reluctant starfish sex, whereas there were no limits to the amount of degrading beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:36 AM
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Just brush your hair, bro! That'll totally compensate for your lack of height, or attractive facial features!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/21 03:32 AM
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And only with the greatest reluctance after finally admitting that chad simply isn't going to commit to her
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 11:05 PM
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Exactly. Women unilaterally declared that they would now spend their years of prime attractiveness and fertility fucking a succession of chads, in an attempt to ensnare them into committing to them Meanwhile, those men not in the top echelon of attractiveness were told that they would now be relegated to serving as betabuxxers to a bunch of used up women and their bastard children, just at the point where their youth has left them and their attractiveness is diminished
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 11:04 PM
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Just be a multi-millionaire celebrity, bro! Plenty of women judge these men for being shallow, its just that, luckily for most women, only a very small number of men can actually date a smoking hot woman much younger than them The standards of the average woman are demonstrably much higher than the standards of the average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 04:13 PM
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Can easily be explained by the fact that women so consistently lie and virtue signal about this sort of thing that any study suggesting this is totally unreliable
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/21 04:07 PM
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There's always a bigger Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 07:49 PM
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Dude, none of that is backed by any research that I've seen on the subject. Japanese men are withdrawing for the same reasons as western men. One reason is that more and more women are entering and remaining in the workplace; and the effects of this are twofold More women in the workplace means fewer opportunities for men in the same fields, and thus men who would have had a decent career path 30 years ago are now stuck in lower paying jobs As well, we know that women are very rarely willing to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/20 09:55 AM
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I don't dispute that most femcels are unattractive, but being a low value woman in modern society is far easier than being a low value male Most incels have never even kissed a girl, while most femcels have had multiple relationships, but they, like all women, just want to date the top echelon of men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 11:25 AM
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Because there is pretty much no such thing as a femcel Unless a woman is actively deformed in some way (a very small number) she will have no problems getting laid by a better looking guy, or getting into a relationship with her looksmatch The problem is that femcels, like all women, STILL only want to date the top 20% of men, and won't even countenance dating a guy of equivalent attractiveness As a result they will gaslight unattractive men, arguing that it's actual some nebulous "bad personali…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/20 11:21 AM
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Setting aside any arguments as to the validity of the data in those articles, the point is it doesn't measure the social impact on the father A man leaving his wife and kids for whatever reason is mostly seen as a deadbeat, shirking his responsibilities, regardless of the reasons for leaving, whereas women are never blamed or held to account for their decision to break up the family, despite initiating 80% of divorces
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/20 12:17 PM
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But I thought women had inbuilt personality detectors that allowed them to instantly tell if a guy had anonymously posted misogynistic comments online? Why does this infallible piece of internal equipment so consistently malfunction when Chad comes into the picture, yet retains perfect accuracy at picking out unexpressed incel sentiments in unattractive guys? I'm being facetious, of course, but I cannot believe that anything but a minority of women are manipulated and gaslighted into staying wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/20 07:48 PM
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Good points. Lower tier men are increasingly feeling left behind by society, likely one of the reasons that suicide is the biggest killer for men aged 18 - 30. Why bother getting excited for a future that offers them nothing but a life of wageslaving on behalf of multinational corporations, or betabuxxing for some used up skank and her brood of bastards. At least in the old days a man could put up with this because he had a loving family, and could work 80 hours a week of backbreaking labour bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/20 01:55 PM
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No such thing as an objective measure of happiness All studies purporting to contain such a measure should dismissed out of hand
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/20 06:46 PM
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Whether this post is actually real or not, it's hardly uncommon in the modern world What a sick, depraved, clown world we've created that a woman threw away a stable, loving relationship, because she hadn't experienced enough random dicks in her various holes. That's what they mean when they say "I feel like I missed out" or "I need to find myself", they mean that they need to experience lying underneath dozens of random guys who don't give a single fuck about them I only wish Coronavirus had 10…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/10/20 10:16 PM
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Women want relationships and have no reliable means by which to measure whether a man is truly interested, Nope, women want a relationship with Chad Their egos cannot handle the fact that Chad has options for sex, which is all he wants. All women have options for sex and relationships, but not with Chad. The vast majority of women could easily find a relationship with their looksmatch, but women don't want a man who is equal, they want a man who's better than them
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 03:12 PM
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Ugly women, unless they are truly deformed, have absolutely no problem whatsoever getting laid The issue is that because a better looking guy will pump and dump them, they think a better looking guy will be willing to get into a LTR with them, which is rarely the case Ugly men do not treat ugly women badly, Chad treats all women badly because he suffers no negative consequences from doing so
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/20 12:44 PM
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Just approach women bro, just be knocked back countless times and have your confidence absolutely torn to shreds by the constant rejection The reason women don't approach is that attractive women don't have to. So, by approaching a guy, rather than vice versa, you are implicitly acknowledging the fact that you are unattractive. And make no mistake, you could approach a huge number of men and easily score a date, but you don't even register those men as being men. You want Chad to approach you, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 06:12 PM
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Such a thing as an unfuckable woman Pretty much no such thing as a woman who can't get fucked
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/20 04:58 PM
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What a stupid analogy He lent him the car to go grocery shopping, not to run people over What a stupid analogy
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 09:40 PM
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Certainly a good idea, but not particularly helpful in a lot of cases If the accused rapist alleges that the encounter was consensual, then a rape kit doesn't have much probative value, since it's main function is to collect DNA and catalogue any injuries and physical evidence present on the victim at the time of the alleged assault
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 07:24 PM
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And I get your point, but you can't argue that these fetishes are valid, then also say they aren't valid defences to a rape claim, if they were administered within a consensual encounter
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 07:06 PM
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The police need to ask these questions because they're going to be asked them under oath later anyway If you have a new way of interviewing victims, then by all means explain what you would change and it may be a superior way of doing things
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 06:56 PM
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Most jurisdictions have some form of rape shield law, which prohibits introduction of evidence about the defendants attire, or past sexual history. Whether she is acting "appropriately" traumatised is a question for the good sense of the jury, there's unfortunately nothing that can really be done to prevent jurors coming to their own conclusions about how a rape victim should be acting I also think the claim of “rough sex” or other bdsm activities should almost never be allowed as a counter clai…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 06:54 PM
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When someone is burgled there is usually additional evidence of the crime. Evidence of forced entry, things missing for which the victim has evidence of purchasing. And the elephant in the room that no one is voluntarily burgled Im talking about occasions when everyone agrees that it was consensual, right up until the point where the woman says she withdrew consent. Obviously she has every right to withdraw consent at any time for any reason, but my question is how exactly do we prove that, when…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 05:55 PM
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Give that we apparently live in a rape culture, can some feminists articulate how they would reform rape investigations and prosecutions to attain a higher conviction rate? Because pretty much every time I've posited this question, the only answer seems to be that we should believe the woman making the accusation, even when there is a complete lack of any other evidence except her word that it happened, or other suggestions which completely violate a defendant's right to due process.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/10/20 04:57 PM
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I always just get a good laugh out of women claiming that the reason they dont date these unattractive guys is because of their personality, and that they can somehow sense their toxic internet post history, despite most of them probably being the most timid guys imaginable when not behind the safety of the computer screen I have significantly more respect for someone like you, who is willing to openly admit that it's down to physical attractiveness, and not give some bluepill nonsense about "pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/20 12:45 AM
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Haha, what? I am so clearly not being a nice guy; I am being hyperbolic to prove a point I do just fine with women, but it never ceases to amaze me that the first rebuttal to any point I make on this topic, is to denigrate my ability to get laid, which isn't surprising, given that it is the sole metric by which most modern women measure their self worth My point is merely to take the piss out of the many women who claim that they can somehow detect a man's online post history at a glance, yet ig…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 07:59 PM
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But what I'm saying is that these incels/sad virgins don't air their views in public, yet women claim that they can just sense a toxic Internet post history from no evidence, when in reality it's just because they find the man to be hideously unattractive Whereas when Chad comes in, being attractive, but with a million red flags giving away how much of a narcissistic abusive asshole he is, women will happily ignore this because he gives them tingles, and because most women have the self control …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 04:40 PM
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Women can tell an ugly man's toxic Internet posts from looking at him, but they can't tell that the known cheating, abusive Chad that they're hooking up with is a known cheater and abuser Very unfortunate that this personality detector that women have seems to consistently malfunction upon encountering an attractive man
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 12:28 PM
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Because women already know the risks associated with unprotected sex, and yet they continue to have it, hence why single mother pregnancy are on the up
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 09:42 PM
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Probably, but I don't imagine it will help too much, since all this teaching and knowledge will go right out the window once Chad enters the picture
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 02:19 PM
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I'm not, but women are the ones who gatekeep sex, so they can easily make the guy wear a condom if he wants to actually fuck her But, of course, when Chad's involved a woman can't help but do any dangerous or degrading sexual act he asks of her
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 02:16 PM
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Those are legitimate concerns, which can be allayed by not going back to the guy's house to fuck him on the first date, by travelling separately for the date, and making him wait so that you are able to vet him and ensure he's being honest about his intentions
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 02:41 AM
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Maybe because men and women are different? If men are so bad, and you're willing to be with women, why are you complaining about dating men at all? Why don't you just exclusively date women in that case?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 02:38 AM
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Because women lose all sense of propriety, and the ability to exercise rational thought, when Chad shows up and gives them tingles
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 02:34 AM
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Today on Episode 10¹⁰⁰ of "Nothing is Ever Women's Fault", we learn that a woman's decision to believe the blatant lies of a random hot guy, and let him rawdog her, is somehow not her fault. Amazing how women can sense an ugly man's toxic personality from across the room, but also how their personality detectors mysteriously begin to malfunction when Chad arrives and starts giving them tingles
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 02:32 AM
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Good point Ain't it crazy how women can retroactively withdraw consent from sex, yet a man who decides that a particular woman is suddenly a lot less appealing after he's gotten to fuck her is always the villain?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 02:27 AM
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Use contraceptives and make the guy wear a condom, haha, pretty much eliminates pregnancy and STDs as a risk; though I suppose those tingles are hard to ignore There does not exist the words to express how little sympathy I have for women who let a guy rawdog them, then complain about catching an STD or getting pregnant, ditto when a guy complains about the same thing Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 02:25 AM
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So, "many guys" have future faked you and you're still falling for it? Why don't you vet your dates more carefully, or don't jump into bed with the guy at the first opportunity
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 02:22 AM
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It is incredibly uncommon You're conflating that the majority of occasions when women are murdered, it is by a romantic partner But the actual odds of a middle class, white woman in the west being murdered at all is practically a rounding error statistically Exercise a modicum of self-restraint and foresight, and your likelihood of being murdered by your date are practically nill
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 02:19 AM
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Excellent point And when one excludes the percentage of the top 20% who are in relationships, are gay, or just aren't into ONS, then you come to the inexorable conclusion that the remaining members of the top 20% are effectively operating harems, with the women sharing Chad amongst themselves When all women only go for the top 20%, I really can't understand their frustration and whining about the fact that Chad has many options romantically, because they are the ones providing him with these opt…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 02:07 AM
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Ugly men would likely worship the ground you walked on if you gave them the chance to date you Now, I'm not saying you should, or that they are in any way entitled to that, but if you continue fuck attractive men then don't be annoyed when he pumps and dumps, becauese he can do significantly better than you in terms of dating
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 02:02 AM
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A guy could walk in wearing a red flag as a cape, and if he gives her tingles then she will happily lap up any bullshit he cares to feed her
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 01:56 AM
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Because maybe, just maybe, the women you've trusted haven't wanted to fuck you, and you haven't wanted to fuck them, so it is a completely different dynamic
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/20 01:55 AM
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This is the reason that I would never date a single mother in almost all circumstances (the only slight possible exception would be a widow) It's because you are basically Schröedinger's Dad; you are simultaneously the father and not the father, in the worst possible way You will be expected to pay for everything required for the child, do all the mundane shit like driving them to friend's houses and sitting through parent teacher meetings, yet the second you try to discipline them, or try to ge…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/09/20 10:21 PM
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But you're doing him far more damage in the long run (I mean all women, and their bluepilled enablers, not you individually) by saying patently untrue nonsense about how personality is the most important thing to women, and that looks dont matter, and that he'll find someone one day Think about it: you tell this guy that good personality gets women, and he proceeds to have very little success with women due to an immutable biological trait, like height, then that's going to mentally torture him …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/20 10:00 PM
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There is no such thing as a scale that measures happiness, happiness is in the eye of the beholder An autistic guy working a part-time job, living a perfectly regimented life, may well be happier than a stressed out executive earning high six figures each year And that is such bullshit. Women, as we know, are compulsive liars; they lie about their number, they lie about their past, they lie about what their intentions are for future, they lie about being attracted to you, they lie about the pate…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 11:22 AM
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Since when are 20 year olds in High School?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/20 10:53 AM
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OK, fair enough, I'll grant you that obviously fat guys should attempt fo lose weight before throwing in the towel The banal advice I'm referring to is telling short, skinny, unattractive guys that all they need to attract a woman is to shower and get some nice clothes, when we all know full well that chad could walk around with a bin bag on as a shirt and get laid 100 times before these guys did once
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 04:28 PM
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How do clothes improve one's face? And why is this sort if banal bluepilled advice always handed out in this type of discussion, as if the guys struggling with women havent already done this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 01:55 PM
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Outside of facial surgery, what exactly can he do?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 12:49 PM
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Height is extremely important and cannot be changed. Sure, one can get leg lengthening surgery, which is highly dangerous, and can only add about 2-3 inches max to one's height Frame is also highly important, if you're a short, skinny guy then no amount of gym work is going to turn you into Dwayne Johnson, because your muscles insertions simply won't grow to such an extent As well as this, women are viscerally disgusted at a man using surgery to make himself more attractive, because it shows tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/20 12:47 PM
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That's fair, I'm not from the US, so wasn't sure if it was rebuttable or not. Nevertheless, the fact that he is still allowing the mother and child to live with him may be enough for a court to declare that he has accepted the responsibility of supporting them I completely agree that this is unbelievably idiotic and corrupt. It's as if the guy is being punished for ensuring that his son's mother and half -sister aren't tossed out of their home during a pandemic, whereas a guy who tossed them out…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/09/20 09:47 AM
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I mean, have women not been arguing for control over their own reproductive rights for decades now? Why is it not then their responsibility to ensure that they don't have an unwanted child? Maybe don't let chad go bareback because your tingles overrode all objective reasoning of the situation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/20 07:59 PM
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I was under the impression that the fact that he was married to the child's mother when it was born made him the father anyway, regardless of whether he disputed paternity, or the patently obvious fact that the child isn't his In all honesty, even if that's not true, he's probably done enough already for the courts to declare him the father anyway. As I said, they will do literally anything possible to ensure that the mother and child don't become their problem, and if it means saddling a man wi…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/20 08:54 AM
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Yep, it is completely illegal. Some French guys will send the tests to be completed in Switzerland, but there legitimate criminal penalties if you are caught doing so
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/20 01:32 AM
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The odds of getting pregnant from a one night stand are incredibly low. And, even if it was the result of a ONS, what sort of disgusting whore lets a complete stranger, a stranger whose name she apparently doesn't even know, ride bareback and nut inside of her? In all likelihood, she fucked a Tryone from the hood in their own city, and conveniently claimed it happened as a result of a ONS on the other side of the country, which is majorly convenient for her story, and gives the best possible lik…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/20 01:29 AM
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I was in full agreement with him in terms of ensuring his sons treated their sister well, didn't ostracise her, or blame her for their parents divorce, and ensuring that essentially they were taught to look after her and treat her equally When he started talking about bonding with the child, and wanting to adopt her, he just came across as a pathetic doormat. She is nothing whatsoever to do with him, she is his ex wife's child, that is all, and you just know the wife is going to beat him over th…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/20 01:25 AM
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That all sounds good, in theory But if she refuses to leave, he can't physically throw her, and a newborn, out of the marital home, especially during a pandemic As unfair, and brutal as it is, in the eyes of the court, by far the easiest solution is to just declare that this man is the father, and that the wife is entitle to stay in the marital home This keeps the wife and the child off of the government tab, ensures that CPS, social workers, psychiatrists, doctors and lawyers dont have to get i…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/09/20 01:17 AM
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Dude, have you ever met a woman? They will consistently feed bluepill advice to unattractive men, telling him that he's so funny, and that he's going to make some girl very happy (but never the one giving the advice), or that the girl who rejected him is an idiot, who doesn't know what a great guy she missed out on The closest they ever come is telling the beta that, sure, these girls are fucking around with hot bad boys now, but that when they get older they'll realise that they want a guy like…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 08:26 PM
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Because it's taken as read that guys want to fuck hot chicks, whereas society in general, and women in particular, says that women really don't care about looks, and are only interested in a guys personality, which is a flat out untruth
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/20 03:04 PM
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fear of accepting what it takes to attract women. What it takes to attract women: Be physically attractive That is it, nothing else Drug addict/dealer, narcissist, compulsive liar and/or cheater, poor hygiene, poor social skills, mentally/physically abusive? Literally none of it matters when attracting women for sex. So long as you give them tingles they will literally look past any and all red flags to satiate their desires
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 06:57 PM
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They most certainly can find good men to marry The issue is that they would prefer to spend their years of peak fertility riding the cock carousel with countless non-commital chads, before deciding to settle down with a nice Billy Beta in their 30s. Of course, the fact that she finds Billy completely unattractive means they go into a dead bedroom as soon as he has contractually agreed to surrender most of his assets to her at a time of her choosing (i.e. marriage)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/20 06:49 PM
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There are different degrees of blackpill My belief is simply that looks matter to women a great deal more than they, or wider society, is willing to admit
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 01:21 PM
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1.)Men do truly value looks so much more than personality that they will trade you up if given the chance. My sole value to men is how fuckable I am, I will never be a great beauty hence why I will never get the treatment I deserve from a partner. Men and women both value looks; this idea that women don't really care about looks, and will instead focus on a guy's personality is a bluepill delusion. The difference in how I was treated when I was fat and unattractive, and how I was treated when I …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/20 12:29 PM
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It isn't haha, it damages them too, but not to the same extent Women are more sociable than men, they crave a man whom other women want. A man with a high n count is indicative of a man who is desired by other women, therefore it's an ego boost to the present woman, who loves the fact that this guy, who had many options, has chosen her, despite knowing full well, deep down, that she's just the latest in his list of conquests Men are the opposite. The reason that women's sexuality was so rigidly …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:42 PM
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MGTOW is not about being mad at women, it's deciding that modern women aren't worth the effort of dating because they have so little to offer outside of sex, that a guy just decides he's not going to bother, and will instead use the money he saves from not dating women to travel, invest in his future, pursue his hobbies etc Sure, most of them are probably doing it because they had a bad experience with a specific woman, but that doesn't necessitate that he's mad at all women, everywhere
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 03:25 PM
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Dude, you're clearly young and naive. It's fine, most of us were like you once, you'll learn through experience You've likely had such limited interactions with women that you can't see the long term psychological damage that a high n count does to them, and their ability to pair bond successfully. All the literature clearly shows that there is a direct correlation between divorce rates, and n count
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:43 PM
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30 years from now uncontrolled mass immigration will have caused widespread unrest, a rise in ethno-nationalism, and probably civil war. Aside from that, agree with everything said
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:40 PM
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Sounds like more of a problem with your judgement if EVERY man you go on a date with invariably tries to molest you?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:38 PM
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You're right, if you're attractive enough you don't have to do anything to get women Unfortunately for women, these guys have options, so they have no incentive to make any effort because they'll sleep with him anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:24 PM
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Blackpill isn't inherently incel Incels would probably label me as a Chad, I have no problem getting women, yet I would lean more towards the black pill than red I like a lot of red pill stuff (get lifting, don't be a doormat for women, don't put women on a pedestal) but the blackpill is just an acknowledgement that physical attractiveness matters to women to a far greater extent than they or wider society is willing to admit The difference between how I was treated when I was a fat guy with poo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 02:05 PM
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Where have you pulled that number from? By definition, the majority of MGTOW don't bitch about women on the Internet, they just get on with their lives. I'd say that the majority of MGTOW don't even know that there exisits a specific movement for such a purpose; they're men who have been burned too many times by women, and have decided to forego serious relationships in favour of pursuing other things, without making a song and dance about it
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/20 01:50 PM
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Most young women will only consider a relationship with the top 20% of men anyway, because if Chad games it's quirky and "OMG, I love nerdy guys" yet when normal guys do it, it's as though they've admitted to being a sexual predator And again, in the same vein, why would I consider a relationship with some desensitised social media addicted woman, whose only interests are celebrity gossip, innane TV comedies, and Chad's cock At least gaming requires cooperation; at least it's an activity done wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/20 08:24 PM
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The irony that the zombified social media addicts that are modern women feel justified in judging a man's decision to spend his free time gaming with his friends is proof that we are truly living in clown-world, and that women are even less capable of mature introspection than I''d thought
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/20 12:48 PM
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Because America is so massive and spread out that immigrants have less capacity to form ethnic enclaves, unlike places in Europe where we are literally witnessing major cities having a majority minority population
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/20 03:00 PM
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Exactly, as horrible as it sounds, if I was dating someone who was genuinely raped in those circumstances, I would still dump them It shows not only terrible judgement (inviting a stranger from a hookup app over to your house to "hang as friends) but also a massive lack of respect for the the relationship for the same reason
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/20 03:47 PM
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You're Lying to someone and making them act on a false premise is manipulation Just like women do, consistently Men often use manipulation to coerce women into doing things they would rather not. Things like "well every girl in the world does this, so you're depriving me of something normal and that's not fair." I've never experienced that but I've seen that happen. Threatening to break up or do something cruel if you don't do this or that. Again, Chad doesn't need to do this. This is not a pers…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:43 PM
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But they aren't being manipulated, the vast majority of them anyway, they're consciously choosing to let themselves be fucked by emotionally unavailable, good looking Chads, rather than the litany of genuine good guys in their vicinity, simply because of which one gives them tingles You're removing women's agency and implying that they only slut around for Chad because he manipulates them into doing so, which I'm saying I don't believe to be the case
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:23 PM
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There are always exceptions to the rule
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 03:08 PM
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But your post seems to absolve women of all responsibility for their decision to spend their prime years fucking around with one Chad after another. It suggests that it's due to them being manipulated and played into doing this, when that is not true. Chad does not need to manipulate or gaslight women, he doesn't have to do anything, because when a woman gets 'gina tingles she loses all sense of propriety and will go out of her way to approach and fuck him I don't know if it's a miscommunication…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 02:42 PM
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Exactly. My interactions with women before and after I got in shape and started dressing well are night and day
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 01:55 PM
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Yeah. Though it was drilled into me by both parents and school that university was the be all and end all and that attempting to pursue any other path was a road to nowhere. I didnt fully buy that, but offering an 18 year old free money, and years of sex and hedonism while pursuing my existing passion for history was an offer that was hard to pass up
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/20 01:53 PM
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If it's a STEM degree, overwhelmingly male, then yes, absolutely worth it to get into debt for that, because it's an investment that will pay back ten fold in a short period of time Pissing away 10's of thousands on a pointless humanities degree is such a waste of time that it's baffling that people can't see it, and I should know, I wasted my time getting a History degree and it has been worse than useless in getting me a job My younger brother out earns me as a construction worker, having left…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/20 01:05 PM
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Yeah, just when he seemed on the cusp of spitting some major blackpills, he pulls back and hamsters his way out, at no point making the salient point, that his own research supports, that these women are alone because of their own ridiculously over inflated standards in the guys they're looking for
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/20 12:54 PM
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Wasting time with pointless Humanities degrees, and then complaining when they get into debt and can't find a job as a result I haven't got a leg to stand on, I have a History degree, and it has proved less than useless in helping me find a job, particularly since the market is so saturated with others holding similarly pointless humanities degrees Though I am at least willing to admit I went to University for the lifestyle as opposed to any career motivation Maybe 50 years ago attending Univers…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/20 12:52 PM
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Translation: any guy who doesn't completely subserviate himself to me and my whims in every aspect of life is an asshole; how DARE he have his own thoughts and opinions on the direction our shared life is going!?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/07/20 12:45 PM
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Hard to do when women continually chase Chad, and don't recognise guys that are equivalent in looks within their own league
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 12:07 PM
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That doesn't wash, to be honest. I don't buy that a short, balding unattractive man can successfully manipulate a young woman at the peak of her attractiveness into an abusive relationship Sure, some women will have such low self esteem that she would fall for anyone who gave them a modicum of affection and attention, but the vast majority of these girls are throwing themselves at Chad's feet and crying afterwards that he has treated them the same way that he has treated every other pump and dum…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 09:30 AM
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I don't see why you're drawing an analogy between the mentally disabled, and grown women, in regards to taking responsibility for their actions. They aren't comparable Others have made all the major points, but I want to add one addendum. If these college age women aren't responsible for allowing themselves to be manipulated, then why are college age men responsible for the manipulating? Maybe they dont even realise that what they're doing qualifies as manipulation Or is this just another one of…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 09:20 AM
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But that type of woman really isn't that common, is what most commenters are saying If she learned not to take shit, and basically decided that she deserved to be treated decently by a potential partner, then that's fair enough, and is certainly a good thing The issue is that she doesn't reciprocate what she demands. She demands the best of her partner, while offering him little compared to her ex, and that's an issue She's almost punishing her new partner for her ex's shitty treatment of her, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/20 08:56 AM
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How can he be cheating if it's an open marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/20 06:25 PM
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Will Smith's SMV is about as high as it's possible to get: Tall, handsome, funny, charismatic, rich, famous, a devoted father If Will Smith can be cucked, then literally anyone can
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/20 05:18 PM
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They are, which is why I have no sympathy when a woman complains that the well known, womanising Chad she's decided to date decides to fuck other women She knew full well the sort of guy he was, and decided to fuck anyway, because he gave her tingles
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 05:03 PM
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The issue with this strategy is that the beta often has to devote months of time and energy to make sure he isn't just looking for a pump and dump, despite these same women letting Chad bareback her within an hour of meeting him in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/20 01:22 PM
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Dinner as a first date is such a stupid idea anyway. The first date should be a short experience, to ascertain whether there is any chemistry between you, otherwise you end up stuck on an excruciating 90 minutes with some boring bastard who cant look away from their phone
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/07/20 08:39 AM
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Don't be such a woman hater, her personality detector obviously malfunctioned for several years If he anonymously posted on incel forums online she would have been able to sense his horrible personality immediately
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/07/20 10:34 PM
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Hard to put a percentage into it, I dont really perceive it working that way As many others have said, unless a guy is in the top 20% then most women are not even going to look at him as an option; a relationship where the women is not attracted to her partner is never going to work out and is just going to result in her fucking Chad the first chance she gets And with the prevalence of social media and online dating the bar for what constitutes attractive is continually rising, to the point wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:33 PM
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100% is an exaggeration, but looks matter way more to women than either they, or wider society, is willing to admit
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/20 10:10 PM
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Most men never have the opportunity to cheat, or even sleep with a woman full stop Just look at celibacy and virgin rates for young men these days Chad cheats more because women will degrade and whore themselves out for Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/20 10:52 AM
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Unfortunately, there are plenty of bluepilled simps out there who will happily pick up Chad's leftovers, even pay to raise his bastards. The sort of guys who will sit back and take it when the reformed party girl comes off the CC after 10+ years of fucking Chad and his friends, and tells him that, sure, she let chad fuck her in the ass bareback on the first date, but he's gotta be content with disinterested starfish sex 1 night a week
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/20 11:08 AM
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Because the situation has no downside for these men They have full freedom to fuck around with a bunch of delusional, average looking women, women who could already be in loving, committed relationships with their looksmatch, then afterwards being able to settle down with a top tier woman whenever he wants I may sound jaded, but I have literally zero sympathy for women who get fucked over by these types of guys, they knew full well what sort of person he was before they started fucking him, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/20 12:20 AM
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He is high value to women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/20 12:01 PM
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Not that I'm defending the practice, but it was for logical reasons of survival Give women the unfettered right to choose their partner, and they will inevitably only attempt to mate with the best looking, most dominant individuals This leaves the "beta" males unable to marry or have children, and thus they lose all incentive to contribute to the wider wellbeing of the tribe Women's sexual choices were restricted because their innate hypergamous nature was directly at odds with what was best for…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/20 09:28 PM
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Men are violent because women have consciously endeavoured to breed with dominant and violent men throughout history, because dominating through their man's capacity for violence, by proxy, is the only way they can effectively assert control over people
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/20 10:37 PM
6

To get casual sex? Pretty much, so long as you aren't completely socially retarded, if you're physically attractive, you wont struggle to get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 10:40 AM
9

TRP only really works if you're a socially retarded, but otherwise decent looking guy A lot of them seem to think that if they hold frame and hit the gym then it suddenly wont matter that they're 5'2" and balding Its been proven over and over again, looks >> everything else
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/20 09:22 AM
1

You are talking utter bull if you are trying to say that you're friend got to the level of picture two in 3 months, having never previously lifted That sort of physique is the culmination of years of unrelenting training and steroid cycles, not 3 months of newb gains
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:41 PM
2

While she brings nothing to the table except the hole between her legs
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 06:27 PM
2

I've thought along similar lines myself before; when women consistently say that they hate the douchebag, shirtless pick, and the guy does it anyway, it signifies that he is an absolute Chad who doesn't give a fuck about her opinion, which is a turn on for women in most circumstances As usual, always ignore what women say, only watch what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/20 05:58 PM
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The point is that women will overlook most of those other character flaws if possessed by a tall, good looking chad. Doesn't matter if he's a waiter who sells drugs and doesn't even have a high school diploma, if he gives her tingles, she will sleep with him regardless of any personality deficiencies The short man cant mask his inadequate height with a good personality in the way that a tall, attractive guy can overcome his shitty personality by just being good looking
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/20 05:00 PM
1

They aren't raised in our culture, they're raised in segregated ghettos with only people of their own culture
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/20 02:51 AM
3

What study demonstrates this? Every single study that "proves" this has, without fail, basically taken all taxes collected by all immigrants, and compared it to the number of direct welfare payments collected by immigrants; this is a ridiculously flawed metric for two reasons: It lumps literally all immigrants in together, regardless or any other factors. Software engineers and doctors are counted alongside illiterate manual labourers. We can still have the doctors without accepting those who ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:51 PM
9

They haven't so far; why would that suddenly change? Especially as their own numbers continue to increase and become a larger share of the overall population
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/20 04:36 PM
1

Never said whites don't rape and murder, just that they do so at much lower rates than blacks Never said blacks haven't contributed to these fields, just that they do so at far lower rates than whites
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:46 PM
1

Nah, we do know The lift was promoted and sponsored by Rogue, the largest manufacturer of gym equipment in the world, and broadcast on ESPN; do you really think that they're going to risk their reputation on a rigged lift? The bar and plates were the exact same ones used by Eddie for his lift, and the weight was verified and the lift was given by WSM head referee, and 4x World's Strongest Man, Magnus ver Magnusson There's nothing to say that a lift has to be in competition, which was the origina…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 01:44 PM
1

Until the next one turns up and gives her tingles, but this time is going to be different
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 12:09 PM
1

0% they're chadsexuals who refuse to countenance dating their looksmatch
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 11:12 AM
1

In what world did he almost break his back? He definitely could have lifted even more
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 10:26 AM
1

Big difference between designing a vibrating tube and a highly advanced robotics system
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 09:59 AM
1

I'm fully willing to accept that black are far superior to white men when it comes to rape, murder, burglary and absentee parenthood We do have some areas in which we slightly surpass them though, minor fields like science, engineering, art, literature and business, but apart from minor things like these I fully concur with your proposition
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 08:42 AM
5

But.... my anecdotal, outlier evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/20 07:40 AM
2

If women are equal to men, then how do men possibly hold them back?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 05:13 PM
6

Males still get picked for jobs over more qualified women. Prove it. As far as I can see, affirmative action and quota systems prove the opposite Males have more job options in general Because there a huge number of jobs that women will simply not countenance doing, specifically anything involving any kind of manual labour, which automatically excludes them from a huge number of jobs throught their own choices Women are heavily overlooked and held back in academia despite outperforming males on …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:46 PM
0

The trade jobs that men do: electrician, plumber, bricklayer, joiner etc. are jobs that women simply cannot/will not do, and these are jobs which simply cannot be automated The engineers and programmers designing and maintaining these new automated systems are also going to be overwhelmingly male
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/20 03:18 PM
1

Womens faces will only light up when Chad walks in
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:40 AM
1

Ok, glad to see that wage slaving on behalf of multi-national corporations provides a greater purpose in life for women than caring for their family and raising the next generation
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 05:39 AM
2

Because OP isn't Chad, and didn't give her tingles
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/20 12:37 AM
2

It's because she spent her prime years jumping on Chad's cock, now that she's used up and her looks have faded, Chad isn't very interested in hooking up any more, so she settles for a nice Billy Beta, to whom she is barely attracted, but who is safe, and compliant and will happily fund her lifestyle with his hard earned money But he isn't Chad, and he will never he Chad. As a result, the woman starts to hate him, because he is a constant reminder that she will never get Chad to commit, and has h…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 02:12 PM
9

But she had to make up for lost time, because apparently time spent without a random dude's cock in your mouth is time wasted Meme gender
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:41 AM
3

Chad only
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:18 AM
7

Or maybe get women to return to their natural state of raiding the next generation, rather than trying to live some impossible life where they can "have it all"? Any study which attempts to quantify happiness is utterly worthless in my eyes, to attempt to catalogue something as amorphous and intrinsically personal as happiness makes absolutely no sense Women are happy to be childless in their 20s, but as soon as their biological clock approaches midnight they panic because they realise that they…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/20 10:02 AM
2

And what percentage of steroid users aren't lifting, haha? How pointless would that be? And that study was wrought with flaws, mainly in that the exercises they had the natural lifters doing were padded with lightweight, bodybuilding fluff, rather than progressive overload on the big, compound lifts
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 10:36 PM
1

Listen coomer, stop being a dopamine deficient, limp dicked cuck, and give up porn forever
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 05:59 PM
8

Off vibe = short + unattractive Very bright and charming = tall and attractive Maybe women don't even realise their doing it, but the Halo Effect is a very strong phenomenon If you find a guy attractive, then you're going to interpret everything about him in the best possible light, with the inverse being true for guys you don't find attractive Average guys who get together with their looksmatch aren't cheating, because they've went so long without a relationship, and are so grateful to now be i…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:46 PM
2

Yes, every abusive guy is a Machiavellian manipulator with Einstein level IQ, who gave absolutely no indication beforehand than he was a cheating douchebag, except for the things he said and did, and the poor woman was tricked into getting with him Get real, it's not that he turned into a monster, he was a monster to begin with, but he gave her tingles so she was willing to overlook his catalogue of failed relationships and dishonest behaviour
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 04:02 PM
4

Whenever guys vent about not being able to get women, they're told that it's got nothing to do with looks, and is solely because of their toxic personalities, as if the woman didn't notice his unattractive ness, and was instead able to gauge his that his personality was terrible, without even getting to know them
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:58 PM
1

A lot of guys probably do it for that reason to begin with, then realise that virtually no women give a fuck how much they can deadlift and just get into the progression and self improvement aspect of it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 03:28 PM
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I thought women had ingrained personality detectors, which could sense abusive and narcissistic personalities? They do seem to malfunction a lot when it comes to tall, attractive men; really gets the noggin' joggin'
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/20 02:05 PM
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Because if men have a proper falling out we'll either: A) Have a punch-up, releasing the tension, and thus be friends again, or; B) Just go our separate ways without wanting to cause too much drama for ourselves, and any mutual friends we share Not to say some men aren't petty gossips, but far less so than most women
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/20 05:34 PM
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"Come on, Betaboy, you just need to be confident, looks don't even matter to most women, just be outgoing and funny and you'll get a girlfriend who will appreciate what a wonderful guy you are" "Oh me, sorry, you're not my type, and besides, I have a date with Chad tonight; well, by date I mean I'm going over to his house to let him raw dog me; maybe he'll even let me spend the night after!"
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/20 05:29 PM
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Absolutely. Means that when Chad Thundercock comes crashing into the picture, and the woman ignores his patently sociopathic tendencies because of tingles, her father can clearly decide that he is far too much of an asshole for his daughter, thus saving her from the inevitable "emotional abuse" that Chad is going to subject her to
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen27/04/20 02:53 PM
1

Men's standards are fulfilled by the best majority of women Barely 20% of men meet the standards set by women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 09:02 PM
2

Cue the virtue signallers coming in to tell you that it's probably just your horrible personality that's holding you back Anecdotal evidence about a short guy you know who slays: completely convincing Countless peer-reviewed studies demonstrating conclusively how important looks, and particularly height, are to women: doesn't convince
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 08:46 PM
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Because women have an innate revulsion towards short, unattractive men acting like they're tall, attractive alphas, even if that really is his personalit, even if he really is as confident as he seems to be This is because this guy is now the worst of both worlds, they don't get tingles, because he isn't attractive, but, because he's got an alpha personality, he won't just lay down and behave like a good little betabuxx for them
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/20 04:25 PM
3

Internet, air conditioning, plastic, mobile phones, cars, planes, penicillin, TV, light bulb, fridge: all invented by men What paradigm shifting creation have women come up with? The reason that women aren't violent is because they're incapable of being so, when almost any average man is stronger than 99% of women, it would be incredibly evolutionarily disadvantageous for women to have the sort of violent tendencies that men possess; this is the reason why women have always been attracted to tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:56 PM
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Heaven help us, talk about cherry picking data That female led firms do better can be explained easily There are far more male led firms than female led firms, since most start ups fail, it obvious that the average return on women's start ups on average is going to be better than men's. Since investors are going to be more reticent to invest in female led firms, the level of scrutiny is going to be higher, meaning that those female firms which do receive investment, are likely to represent a muc…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 03:48 PM
3

It's more to do with the fact of being away from their boyfriend and family means they can fuck around practically without consequence, since theres pretty much no chances its going to come back on her I've got to concur with the commenters above, I travel solo a lot, and the girls at the hostels and AirBnBs are the most low effort ONS I've ever had, there's practically no need to finesse them in any way, if they find you attractive, they make it pretty obvious from the get go that they're DTF
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 12:23 PM
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And just why do you think banks and venture capitalists, whose only aim is to make as much money as possible, "discriminate" against women? If these women are coming to these places with ideas that would make them money, they'd be falling over themselves to invest, so obviously women just arent coming up with ideas that are likely to be profitable
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 10:27 AM
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Almost all violent crime is perpetrated by men Almost all scientific and technological discoveries and innovations are created by men Anything that involves doing something is always most likely to be men, because men have evolved to be the gender that does things; whether that be hunting for food in ancient times, or collecting the bins and building houses in modern times
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/20 09:41 AM
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In the nicest possible way, your anecdotal evidence of your unattractive friend who slays is meaningless to me; the mass of evidence shows conclusively that looks are the overwhelming factor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 08:11 PM
1

The steroids that the likes of Arnold and Frank took were a world away from the insane cocktail of drugs taken by modern competitors in bodybuilding
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 10:06 AM
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Partially; after all, if you are attractive then people (particularly women) are likely to treat you better, you'll thus have more friends and more well rounded social skills But one needs to factor in the Halo Effect, because attractive people have their every action looked at in the best possible light, with the reverse being the case for unattractive people
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:58 AM
1

Looks >>>>>>>> literally everything else
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:55 AM
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I'm not MGTOW but that is so obviously not what they are about MGTOW is telling men that modern women, with their entitlement, ego and hypergamous instincts, combined with their inherent institutional advantages in the realm of divorce and child custody, means that the payoff just isn't worth it in regards to a relationshop/marriage The Red Pill is also only partly true. TRP acts like anyone can just hold frame and act like an asshole and he'll get more women, when the reality is that, for women…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/20 09:53 AM
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Men can want to fuck every woman in sight, but the vast majority can't. The average man, who has spent years alone, who finally gets his looksmatch gf, is not going to try and jeopardise it for a cheap one night stand, even if he could somehow make it happen Women, on the other hand, ALWAYS have other options
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/20 06:52 PM
1

So all those empirical, peer reviewed studies are invalid because you have some anecdotal evidence about some short guys who married attractive women?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:45 PM
2

Why does this nonsense keep popping up? Study, after study, after peer reviewed study has consistently shown that looks are the overwhelming factor in who a woman chooses to sleep with I don't care if you know a 5'2" balding Indian janitor who slays, the vast majority of short, unattractive guys aren't getting laid, and it is overwhelmingly to do with their looks
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/20 10:39 PM
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It's an exquisite irony; by "respecting her boundaries" and deciding to wait until marriage, you are inadvertently turning her off massively, because she doesn't want her boundaries respected, she wants Chad to be dominant and not take no for an answer, so that she can feel sexy and desired
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/04/20 04:43 AM
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No. Every study has shown consistently that physical attractiveness is the overwhelming factor in who women decide to be with. It's the halo effect; when a man is attractive, every one of his actions will be interpreted by women in the best and most flattering light possible, whereas for unattractive men it is the opposite, their behaviour will be looked upon negatively whenever possible Confident vs Arrogant Flirty vs Creepy Direct vs Pervy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/20 07:16 PM
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"Then I asked, why him and not me" Because you don't make her 'gina tingle, my guy, that's the only reason; this guy is good looking and you aren't This is a heartbreaking story to read, and I feel sorry for him, but young guys need to hear these types of stories more often, they need to realise that you can spend years treating her amazingly, doing and buying everything for her, and basically worship the ground she walks on, and she will still drop you in an instant to fuck Chad if he decides t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/04/20 05:36 PM
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Its unprovable, anecdotal evidence, so it falls firmly into the completely irrelevant category
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 04:03 PM
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Two things: A great many of these women have settled for their Billy betabux looksmatch only after 10+ years of riding the CC with all the good looking guys she was actually attracted to The women in these relationships will almost never concede that their partner is their looksmatch, because modern western women have such over-inflated egos that even if they are of bang average attractiveness, they still think they deserve a super wealthy, good looking Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 11:51 AM
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I blame both, society doesn't seem to. Single mothers are treated as victims, given social welfare and numerous outlets for support, the asshole who left is considered the scum of the earth. No matter if he has stated that he wants to be absolved from all responsibility for the child (an option open to women i.e. abortion) The reason has been explained elsewhere, because in spite of the obvious signs that the guy is a complete asshole women continue to chase him because he's tall and good lookin…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 03:44 AM
1

Women are just as violent as men, they simply lack the ability to project it, hence they use men as a proxy to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 03:38 AM
1

Yes, and the move to "liberate" women and get them out of the home and into the workplace wasn't orchestrated by those same wealthy interests, in order to both depress wages by flooding the labour market, and create a whole new class of consumers for the products The exact same reason behind the push for mass immigration into western nations today
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 03:31 AM
1

Compromise doesn't work if men decide they don't want to compromise, that's how the vast majority of wars have started throughout history. The strong do what they can; the weak accept what they must Are you saying that men are somehow going to be forced, by women, to compromise against their will? How does that work? The only way would be for other men to force them to do so, at which point we have conflict and violencen, and then we are back to square one The bottom line is, women compromise be…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 03:29 AM
1

Boggles my mind that the modern left looks at highly patriarchal, misogynistic, family oriented, anti-LGBT, anti-abortion, anti-feminist 3rd world immigrants as somehow being on their side
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/20 03:15 AM
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Brienne in the books is a good example. Obviously Gwendoline Christie is beautiful, but book Brienne is basically described as being about as unattractive as woman can really get
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/20 06:49 PM
0

Because women have repeatedly virtue signalled that the main thing they find attractive in a man is his personality Most men still seem to believe this (somehow) and thus give an estimation of their attractiveness based on an honest appraisal of their personalities, and how they get on with people in their day to day lives This male self-perception seems so out of whack to women because they're attracted to a man's looks above and beyond anything else he has to offer; a guy may well have a 10/10…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 07:35 PM
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Because if a man possesses the qualities that women find attractive, then it doesn't matter what sort of fashion sense he has Mark Zuckerberg is not very attractive and has no discernible fashion sense, yet because hes one of the world's richest men he would he able to attract almost any woman If a handsome, well built 6'5" guy has terrible dress sense, then he's still going to be able to attract women, because an unattractive man can't looksmax away his unattractive features (height, face, lack…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 02:06 PM
3

Because how a man dresses is no longer an indicator of status as it once was If you didn't know who Mark Zuckerberg was, and saw him on the street in his usual jeans and T-Shirt, looking every inch an average white guy, you would never twig that he is one of the richest and most influential men on the planet
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/20 01:36 PM
1

Men are more violent because women have, throughout the millennia, intentionally chosen to mate with the biggest, most aggressive males they can find, a trend which continues up until the present day To be honest, It's getting somewhat tiresome of reading the same story rewritten multiple different ways: "I had no idea he was an abusive, violent asshole! The only hints were the things he said and did; he was a Machivellian manipulator with Einstein level IQ" It's boring now; women will conscious…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/20 07:24 PM
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Whether you sign the birth certificate in these cases is irrelevant, presumptive paternity means that if you are married to a woman who gives birth, then that child is yours and your responsibility, regardless of whether he is biologically related
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/03/20 05:51 PM
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"Informed consent" is one of the biggest piles of shit I've ever heard It's your responsibility to vet your sexual partners before you jump into bed with them What did he do exactly to mislead her, say he wanted a relationship, and then didn't? Are men who make a promise to women before sex now going to be contractually obligated to fulfill said promise or they're branded as rapists? I thought withdrawal of consent was absolute, maybe the guy did consent to a relationship before he fucked her, t…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/03/20 05:19 PM
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Women's incredibly unrealistic standards are, that's the point
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 11:59 PM
1

Wanting to sleep with multiple women, and actually being able to do so, are two completely different things. Most men simply do not have the capacity to sleep with multiple men; almost all women do
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 11:38 PM
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How can it be a characteristic of all men when most men can't even get one woman, let alone many It's yet another example of a woman denigrating all men for the fact that she enables Chad's ability to commit polygyny with her willingness to sleep with him, even in the full knowledge that he's a scumbag
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 08:46 PM
3

Yasss kween, more single mothers is just what this world needs
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 06:46 PM
0

No; but I am illustrating the irony of average women bitching about guys fucking around, when they almost exclusively go for the exact sort of guys who can, and do, fuck around And I use Chad as shorthand for all the qualities that women think they're entitled to in a man: rich, tall, handsome, well built, stylish etc. it's just slightly inconvenient to have to type them all out every time When you contribute nothing to a relationship other than being a hole to fuck, I really don't get how you c…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 06:18 PM
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It's sharing in the sense that women are willing to take their turn and get fucked by Chad, all the while knowing that he is an asshole who will never commit, but are still willing to do it for the ego boost that comes with fucking a hotter guy than their friends
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 06:03 PM
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Its democracy in a way 80% of women try to fuck only 20% of men (at least in their peak years) and so are implicitly approving polygyny by their actions, whilst condemning it with their words They aren't upset that Chad practices polygyny, it's just that their egos are so over inflated that they cant handle the fact that the most desirable men arent willing to change their way of life for them
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 05:36 PM
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You mean there's no way you'll ever be enough for Chad It continues to astound me that women of bang average attractiveness can look at a hugely successful, handsome Chad who fucks a different girl every week, and somehow have such an unbelievably over inflated ego that they think that she, of all Chad's conquests, should be the one to whom he commits
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 05:23 PM
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Sums it up perfectly We see this with so called "femcels" and how pretty much every complaint they have basically comes down to them having multiple guys who would date or fuck them, but are only willing to countenance this with the hottest guys around; all the while most men are left with Chad's scraps or nothing at all There aren't any obese nerds or 5'2" balding Indian janitors rejecting average women in the belief that they're entitled to a Scarlett Johansson lookalike
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 04:49 PM
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Because women's bitching revolves around Chad not wanting to commit to them Why would Chad, who has so many options for women he can fuck, give it all up to get into a relationship with a bang average woman he occasionally fucks because she's easy and low maintenance These men online aren't bitching that the absolute hottest women simply refuse to date them, they're bitching about the fact that western women's egos have become so inflated that they are totally unwilling to countenance a relation…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/20 04:33 PM
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Yeah, they're all Machiavellian manipulators with genius level IQ who totally hide their true personalities until they have women trapped in relationships, haha Bottom line is that most of these abusers were obviously assholes from the outset but the woman was willing to overlook it because they're attractive and boost the woman's ego Hypergamy has decimated the ability of so many modern women to successfully pair-bond with a man because they literally have so many options with which to replace …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/20 11:23 AM
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It's the sheer arrogance of women to tell men: just hit the gym, just have game, just be funny, just have interesting hobbies (though not videogames, by far the most common male hobby), be caring, be possessive (but not too much that its controlling), dress expensively, have his own car, have his own apartment et cetera... while they have literally nothing else to offer but the hole between their legs And you know what, you're 100% correct. This is entirely men's fault. The onus is on men to con…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 11:24 PM
1

Why would its findings have changed significantly over the past 25 years?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 11:14 PM
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A woman's risk of actually being killed by their partner is so small as to be statistically irrelevant The manipulation of this fact to push an agenda comes from the fact that, of the small overall number of women who are murdered, it is overwhelmingly by their partner Look at the number of women in relationships, and the number of women who are actually murdered by their partners, and you'll see just how small of a percentage it actually happens to I'm not saying women shouldn't be circumspect …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/20 11:12 PM
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No, have to strongly disagree and say you don't know what you're talking about. I'll admit, I started the gym to put on muscle in an attempt to pull women, and I did indeed start to do a lot better, but I think that was more to do with the increased confidence that looking and feeling better was able to give me. Ask any dedicated gym rat, and 9/10 times they'll tell you that no amount of compliments or flirting from women gives the same rush as the biggest dude in the gym giving you a nod of app…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 01:12 AM
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Men do the vast majority of killing because men do the vast majority of everything, because that is how evolution has made us We are the gender that gets things done. It's for this reason that we're more driven, more analytical, more impulsive, more ruthless. Women have historically been the mothers and carers, equally important, just in a different way. And as for women in prison for killing their abusers, any such cases I've seen have been either women who can't prove that any such abuse took …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/20 12:33 AM
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Then do that, but don't release them back into a world in which they can never properly function, what do we gain from that?
/r/MensRights25/11/19 06:14 PM
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What's happened is she now realises that her personal issues can't be fixed by her partner in the relationship. Her mind has been so warped by popular culture that she believed you were going to sweep in and fix her shitty situation, which, of course, isn't how it works. Now she's doubling down on this new boyfriend, saying he's done so much for her, when in reality, she's as miserable inside as she's ever been, because no one else can just fix your problems for you, they can help you deal with …
/r/MGTOW203/10/19 01:36 PM
3

Agreed. He's a bit of an idiot for not making his intentions clearer, but all of the comments seem to completely absolve the woman of blame for any distress inflicted upon her daughter, as if this guy she's been casually dating bears more responsibility for her daughter's wellbeing than she does, because of course the poor, single mother shouldn't be held responsible for her own actions. Also, it appears that dating a woman with a child, for any length of time, means you have a responsibility to…
/r/MGTOW23/07/19 08:08 AM
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