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The idea that a woman cannot think for herself and willingly have sex with people is archaic. A woman maybe a bit more reserved with sex because erm, an 18 year old commitment and an entire pregnancy can result... but if you satisfy those concerns...yeah, sex is fun for all who wanna do it. Get paid to orgasm/feel good? The heck. I'd do it if it were legal in my country.
/r/MensRights26/08/24 06:47 PM
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I have never met a feminist who was not pro decriminalizing sex work. From their perspective, all they want is the freedom to do sex work in safe environments where sex boundaries are respected, clients get what they pay for, and workers have access to STI testing and whatnot.
/r/MensRights26/08/24 06:41 PM
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I have shown how it helps my cause. You can disagree -and you have valid reasons to disagree
/r/MensRights30/07/24 01:51 PM
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I was about to show a touch of empathy for you but then you decided to tell me I suck and refuse to do better. Empathy, magically gone now.
/r/MensRights30/07/24 12:36 PM
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Actually, the way I see it, I agree personal tragedy is something that shouldn't be politicized. Hence politicians should stay out of women's health care and tell her what she (or anyone for that matter) should do with their body. This perfectly explains my point.
/r/MensRights30/07/24 02:59 AM
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The reason I am pro choice is because I believe your right to life ends when your body relies on you being attached to or within another person's body whereby the resources of another person's body is what sustains you. At this point, if you are the person in question, it is up to the person who owns the body that you are inside of and/or attach to and taking resources from (which is what happens in pregnancy) whether you live or die. I would say that for anyone fetus or not.
/r/MensRights30/07/24 02:38 AM
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Now if you are worried about an infant (infant meaning the child has been born) being separated from their mother and how that affects the child because there is somewhat of a symbiotic relationship between newborn and mother...that is a topic you can explore among r/Adopted as it is a trauma to the infant to be separated from their biological mother, especially in infancy known as "the primal wound". However, like I said in my previous comment, this is an entirely different topic to abortion.
/r/MensRights30/07/24 01:35 AM
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I am referring alone to the fetus needing to be in her body in order to survive. I am not arguing post birth infanticide where an alternative caregiver for a child can be arranged in lieu of infanticide. Infanticide is a different topic than choosing to end a pregnancy -where a fetus is not viable outside the womb and technology has not gotten to a point where an alternative to the original mother's uterus can be arranged.
/r/MensRights30/07/24 01:05 AM
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The comparison is flawed yes -because there isn't a situation that is exactly like pregnancy that we can draw from. In either scenario though, I am not deflecting the fact that Parent choosing not to give kidney = Child life taken nor am I deflecting that Person Chooses Abortion = Fetus Life taken. I am well aware of that.
/r/MensRights30/07/24 12:46 AM
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I actually stared exactly what I think when it comes to my argument about kidney donors and where their consent ends. Reread my comment if you wish.
/r/MensRights29/07/24 09:36 PM
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On your comment about adoption: I will also note that I have come to my conclusion as pro choice based on the bodily autonomy argument as a person with adoptive parents (I am a former teen runaway). Adoption is not an alternative to parenting a child. Adoption is a response to a child's crisis of being separated from their mother. -and with my life experience, I said in my first response to your that I would have rather been aborted than with an unfit mother who chose to have me but never wanted…
/r/MensRights29/07/24 07:38 PM
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I do wonder how external incubation will change things however ...we aren't there right now. So as for now, the argument is: Once someone is pregnant, should they be allowed to remove the life inside of them -even if it means that life is lost? I say Yes because your rights end when you need someone else's body's resources to survive. When you are that dependent on a person's living body to survive (meaning you have to be attached to that person or within them in some way and you are taking reso…
/r/MensRights29/07/24 07:30 PM
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I ask in my previous comment if "The argument is whether to keep that life alive while that life is inside the body of another. Do you agree that is the point of this argument?" because it dawned on me. When the argument "you consented to pregnancy" is offered by Pro Lifers, Pro choicers hear it differently than Pro Lifers. What I hear is "By having sex, you are essentially signing a contract for the next 9 months - 18 years" What it sounds like Pro Lifers are hearing is "You simply consent to a…
/r/MensRights29/07/24 07:12 PM
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It sounds like consent to making a human life is revoked. Yes. I understand where you are coming from there. The argument is whether to keep that life alive while that life is inside the body of another. Do you agree that is the point of this argument?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 05:28 PM
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Also, the argument is that your donor would never be forced to give you a kidney, regardless the outcome for you. Emotions and relationship aside, this was your donor's decision up until the point they were put under anesthesia and therefore could no longer consent.
/r/MensRights29/07/24 04:49 PM
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We could live in a world where money isn't an object in order to have needed surgeries.
/r/MensRights29/07/24 04:48 PM
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P.s. I think this conversation is good practice for both of us to be able to argue our stance on the matter. -definitely good practice for me -dunno about you.
/r/MensRights29/07/24 04:26 PM
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Why cannot the pregnant person revoke consent once the child has formed?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 04:14 PM
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I think you are projecting when you say you think I am being obtuse. Sex is consent to the risk of pregnancy, sure. I am not arguing that. Consenting to the rights of the child -the child having a right to life. Understand that point. Why are you arguing the ability for someone to change their mind the moment they are pregnant? -yet we are in agreement that up until the point in which you are no longer able to consent to surgery, you can withdrawal consent to give a kidney -even if that means th…
/r/MensRights29/07/24 03:31 PM
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So are you saying that the bodily autonomy of a pregnant person belongs to the embryo/fetus and not the mother once the embryo/fetus is there?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 03:19 PM
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Once knocked out, you can't change your mind....because you are unable to speak. When you are pregnant, you can still speak. How are these things comparable to you when referring to someone's ability to choose?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 03:10 PM
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The kidney is gone and inside of another person at that point. Of course you can't ask for them to go through surgery again to give you your kidney back. Death aside, that is an obstruction of their autonomy to choose to go under the knife or not. The kidney being gone and inside another person, at that point, is more comparable to not killing a child after they are out of the womb -something I am not arguing about. Up to the point of surgery where you are knocked out, you have a choice. Similar…
/r/MensRights29/07/24 02:57 PM
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If bodily autonomy never ends, how are you not ending bodily autonomy with the argument that a person should not be able to choose to remove an embryo/fetus from their body when they change their mind and no longer want that human being within them?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 02:48 PM
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That comparison of tenancy isn't the same because a your tenants aren't inside your body and the homes you rent out are also not your body. Why does body autonomy end when a person no longer wants to be pregnant?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 02:37 PM
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Why does the fetus' right to life end at the mother's choice to no longer be pregnant? Why does your right to life end when my right to body autonomy ends (provided my body is the one that keeps you alive in any specific circumstance)?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 02:21 PM
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Your original comment "Pro life here. I agree many people are unfit to be parents, that doesn’t mean you kill the kid. It’s literally “throwing the baby out with the bad water.” I used my personal story to convey that 1. I would have chosen abortion if I could of (and I am not the only person I have met with this sentiment) and 2. The choice of the embryo/fetus is moot because at that stage of development, the human being is precognition. 3. At the end of the day, it was my mother's choice to ha…
/r/MensRights29/07/24 01:57 PM
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In a pro choice system, I would have stayed alive because my mother chose to have me.
/r/MensRights29/07/24 01:37 PM
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-My first response to you was that I mentioned that I would have rather been aborted. Sadly, we can't go back and abort me. I love my life, went to therapy, sure but if I could have avoided it by being aborted, I would chosen it. I also mentioned that I was raised by unfit parents. Also raised by parents who didn't want me but chose to keep me -chose to concieve me too (by their own admission -didn't want me but close to have me) What then? I didn't choose to be alive so I am having a hard time …
/r/MensRights29/07/24 01:31 PM
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If the child can't consent, and the mother doesn't consent to having the child in their body, why is waiting for the child to grow up to consent to life held as more important than everything this woman will have to go through to ensure the child comes to the age of consent? Also, at what age can someone consent to being alive?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 01:22 PM
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Do you have that duty to not withhold life from an embryo or fetus who is not capable of consenting to being alive?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 01:13 PM
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Consent to sex is a consent to risk of pregnancy if you have the parts, yeah however, why can't someone change their mind when they experience pregnancy and decide they don't want to be pregnant for 9 whole months? -similar to the concept of choosing choosing initially to give a kidney to someone but before you are given anesthesia (where you are no longer capable of consenting), you can still change your mind (even if it means death for the other person)? Why can't the pregnant person change th…
/r/MensRights29/07/24 01:06 PM
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Why does the woman's body autonomy end when a fetus' life is involved? Also, why the word "inconvenient" when we are talking about donating one's entire body for 9 whole months, and labor, and post pardum? Inconvenience seems like a large under statement. Most women call all this a sacrifice.
/r/MensRights29/07/24 12:58 PM
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The situation about kidneys is a concrete reality that is possible to happen. Why would it not be considered legal murder for a mother to not to provide a kidney to her child even if it means the child dies -but considered murder (to you) when it comes to pregnancy?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 12:50 PM
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You said banning abortion doesn't limit whether a woman can do to her body. Pregnancy does limit a woman to where she can do with her body and denying her the option to end the pregnancy is preventing her to where she can do with her body (safely vs unsafe back alley abortions that often often carry higher risk to her body -that some will do when they can no other option). Why deny a safe option for someone who no longer wants a person inside of them?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 12:47 PM
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A born child [who needs a kidney to save their life and their mother (for argument's sake) is the only match for them] is also offspring and a unique life. Is it ethical for a mother to deny the child her kidney under the argument of the mother:a bodily autonomy?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 12:42 PM
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You are avoiding my question. If you are pregnant and choose to no longer have a person inside you, why are you not allowed to get them out of you yet in every other context, your body will not be used to keep someone else alive without your consent? (Provided you are alert, awake, and can consent)
/r/MensRights29/07/24 12:39 PM
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I am referring to the body autonomy argument. In no other case, do we force a woman to give up any part of her body to anyone else (hence the kidney example -even if the patient who needed a kidney would be a mother's child other would still not be forced to give a kidney). Why is a fetus any different?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 05:24 AM
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Pregnancy very much limits what you can do with your body. Being forced to carry a pregnancy (by not having access to abortion) does limit what someone can do with their body.
/r/MensRights29/07/24 04:45 AM
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You haven't found the conversation in this sub on abortion, clearly. 😅
/r/MensRights29/07/24 04:44 AM
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Conception isn't always a choice. What about those cases?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 04:43 AM
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Being unloved by your own mother is a fate I wouldn't bring up on my worst enemy -and adoption isn't a Wonderland of Family Making either. I would have happily chosen abortion if I could. ...but then again, I can't tell even my mother what to do with her body...
/r/MensRights29/07/24 12:37 AM
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I wonder what Secular Pro Life says about the body autonomy argument
/r/MensRights29/07/24 12:36 AM
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Sell a baby? (which is the adoption industry btw) Selling humans is illegal in most other contexts. Why is it okay with this context? Selling a baby -who is a human being.
/r/MensRights29/07/24 12:34 AM
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What about the body autonomy argument? I am not forced to give a kidney even if (for argument's sake) I am the only match for someone and that someone will die if I don't give them my kidney. Women give far more than the amount of a kidney for a baby. If you don't want a person in your body, for any length of time, should you be allowed to remove that person -even if it kills the person?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 12:31 AM
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Is it okay to force a woman that she must donate her body for 9 months, go through birth, and post pardum though?
/r/MensRights29/07/24 12:28 AM
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As a kid who was raised by unfit parents and found out that adoption wasn't the pretty package of Family Making that Society makes adoption out to be, I would have rather been aborted. ...but alas, I still wouldn't tell my mother what to do with her body...
/r/MensRights29/07/24 12:25 AM
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Tell your husband you know how to properly clean an intact penis/keep it safe from diseases, and as long as there is no medical reason to circumcise, your son can decide a permanent decision for himself when he is an adult. Same thing for earrings, tattoos, cochlear implants, etc. Actual lifesaving shit like Pacemakers, your kid doesn't get to choose. Other things that aren't medically necessary -they choose.
/r/MensRights28/07/24 01:27 PM
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AI was constructed by humans and therefore will act like human. AI is also racist and misogynistic alongside misandry and even ableism. AI doesn't like it when I talk about my autism on my platform. ...I have yet to see examples of all the other isms and phobias of AI. 😂
/r/MensRights13/07/24 03:47 AM
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Depends entirely what they mean by "feminist". Just like I have Christian friends and then I have YOU NEED TO FOLLOW JESUS friends. The latter, I stay away from. There is feminists who focus on gender equity and then there are feminists who just think men are bad and teach their kids that girls rule the world. The latter, I stay away from.
/r/MensRights21/05/24 12:14 PM
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Birth Doula here. I see women and men and non-binary people designing the maternity ward as a place that empowers the person in labor where epidurals are a choice of the laboring paitent...and when they aren't a choice (because sometimes epidurals aren't the right option), to deny them their epidural in a way that communicates to the laboring paitent that they are not alone in this instead of brush off their request in a way that dismisses them as an entire human being 💅 but we aren't anywhere n…
/r/MensRights18/05/24 01:10 PM
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Asking why a woman is choosing a bear over a man was a rhetorical question since you are not the woman. Ask a woman. If a woman can't see our humanity, positive attributes,.and moral agency when alone in the woods with a bear v a man and in fear, chooses a bear, I'm gonna hone in on the fear response and wonder why, ask questions. Same with a man who chooses a croc over a woman or a bear over a woman. If a man's moral agency so being presumed, that is a presumption, not an objectification. Bear …
/r/MensRights07/05/24 08:27 PM
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I mean, your delivery sounds a lot like hatred and anger. I'm not caring about your delivery about your plight. -never called you suffering. There is definitely a difference. When the fuck is it time for men not to listen? Probably when men, women, and everyone realize that being triggered by any conversation is reflection of the individual hearing it -not a reflection of the whole? Saying that the man is worse than the bear isn't objectification. It is a comparison. Also, why are they saying th…
/r/MensRights07/05/24 07:28 PM
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I never equated hated to emotional pain. Perhaps you shouldn't assume my assumption of intentions. If you disagree with my suggestion, that is fine. It was off the top of my head which means it may or may not be that deep. Again. Talk to the rich -and not the ones that will shoot you. There is the entire internet to explore. I asked you how speaking about their abuse one endured is indulgence. Perhaps indulgence is being mixed up with catharsis? Also, are you confusing objectification with bias …
/r/MensRights07/05/24 07:01 PM
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Who taught you that speaking about abuse is indulging in it? About the royal family, ask them. I don't speak for them and it ain't all puppies and rainbows anywhere in the world. Just off the top of my head: a royal child being taught that the abuse of the lower class is a necessity is a trauma which is an form of oppression -whether or not the lower class has the wherewithal to give a fuck about it. We can acknowledge without ignoring our own stuff. Perhaps I should have said "perhaps there is …
/r/MensRights07/05/24 04:11 PM
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The question is hypothetical which means there is a moral behind it. As her why she picked the bear. Most women respond with a real fear they have. Every people group is oppressed in some ways and this bear in the woods thing is a way women are trying to express their pain. If we can't listen to them, they aren't going to listen to us in our oppression.
/r/MensRights07/05/24 12:59 PM
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"more oppressed" = Oppression Olympics We are all oppressed in our own ways.
/r/MensRights30/04/24 05:42 PM
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I have found the best kind of people are the ones who are for Human Rights and talk about Misogyny and Misandry, both. "Human Rights" is more encompassing and will bet that you will find someone who will be For the rights of any group of people and be willing to hear that group's pleas.
/r/MensRights19/04/24 12:37 PM
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