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illogical because in another thread people should accept women's choices and they would be reasonable. Now suddenly it's about selfishness when men want young and pretty women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 07:25 PM
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Then one could just as well claim that men's preferences are reasonable and it is women who should adapt to them. You mean that women should, for example, choose men with a large penis
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 07:21 PM
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You don't have to like other people's preferences. Quite the contrary, women find a small group of men attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 07:18 PM
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Women don't have to accept it because they usually still have easy access to sex. And sex is rarely about women wanting children these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:02 PM
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"they want sex or pleasure, they can get it easily." Now it shouldn't be about rights to something when women should get it for free. Sex also doesn't have to be about wanting children
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 08:00 PM
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Please read the thread I linked to in this thread. It's a good example of when men's demands can be considered wrong but women's aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:35 PM
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As I said, you don't have to appreciate other people's demands Even many women think about themselves when it comes to relationships and it's not really about equality. For example, this group is supposed to be about radical feminism and equality. A person who wrote a thread about men's beauty standards being more normal than women's beauty standards and not being as socially accepted as men's. It's supposed to be unfair but then the same person claims that it's women who should choose because o…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 05:25 PM
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It's not about any law, but about whether you think women should have these requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:36 PM
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Changing your requirements doesn't automatically mean lowering your standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:32 PM
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You don't have to appreciate other people's demands. For example, if a man wants a woman to lower her demands, some people might talk about that person wanting to be entitled to sex, wanting the right to sex. Although women are allowed to lower their demands if they want to. The only thing you have the right to do is say no or say yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:31 PM
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Actually, women are not entitled to any standard. The law only says that you should be allowed to say no or yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:28 PM
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"No one better than you knows what food you want to eat and what food you don't like to eat". In that case, no one should blame sex for not being a right.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:26 PM
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Others don't have to appreciate the demands of others. No person, including women, is entitled to a certain standard. "*not trying to punish some men or reward some other people and she isnt hurting anyone by not sleeping with him" That's different from when you claim that women are entitled to their preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/25 04:23 PM
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It should then be about entitlement when women with autism have it easier because they are women. She is not saying that women with autism should have to perform as much
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/25 09:57 PM
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If women don't want men to be attracted to them, why are there so many people criticizing different men's demands on women?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:29 PM
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Many women think it's bad when they don't get the men they want. Men should then be allowed to have their own opinions. If you can say that it's good when some people involuntarily become without relationships, then you should be allowed to have opinions about people who choose others. Women don't have to complain as much about men not dating them because men are more easily attracted to women than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/25 07:23 PM
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If men should be ashamed if women dislike their opinions and that women should have it easier than men sexually. It should then be okay if some man wants women to be ashamed of their choices. Men also cannot control what women may be attracted to, but the blame can still be placed on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/25 10:10 AM
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"Because thats how natural selection works" Murder can also be about natural selection. Rape can also be about natural selection
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:12 PM
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"then again you are better off feeding and living with yourself." Better to be alone?. So you think it's good when women die prematurely from various diseases? It's cynical that you think it's good when someone has to live a bad life. It's not just a matter of some fact, but you also seem to have difficulty with empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:11 PM
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Relationships are about more than just procreation If it's just about natural selection, why are birth control and abortions used these days? There won't be any children then and sex was about something other than procreation back then
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 06:08 PM
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Why should anyone accept that? Also, why should anyone be low quality? No person should die alone if they don't want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:21 PM
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Your comment is also strange
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/25 05:18 PM
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Many women are also punishing men they sexually dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/10/25 06:34 PM
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This could be due to various explanations. 1. It is more accepted that women are feeling unwell in the Western world. 2. The blame is probably placed more on single men when they are left without relationships. If they find it difficult, it should be more about the fact that sex is not a right, there is no need for sex, that it is about the right to women's bodies. If women are left without relationships, it is more about the fact that they only have access to bad men. 3. It is more socially acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 12:16 AM
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And it doesn't seem to apply to women that they should accept men. https://np.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1o3difh/everytime_a_man_cries_about_how_men_have_it_so/?sort=confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/25 12:06 AM
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Sex workers have no right to my money or the right to taxes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/25 11:15 PM
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There are significantly fewer men who have children compared to women and women are more guaranteed a sex life compared to men. Now it's about women who have it worse because of biology
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:22 PM
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Women are usually allowed to have sexual privilege and have more control over whether they are allowed to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:18 PM
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Maybe it was "easier" for men, because they died as babies or died in some war, were murdered. Etc. Women can still decide whether to have children or not, which men cannot do today.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:15 PM
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The thread is about money, work and taxes and men who want to contribute if they get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:07 PM
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Yes, of course, by voting when it comes to taxpayers' money. And you get to decide for yourself about your money. And you get to decide if you want to get a job and a specific profession If you can work with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:05 PM
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I'm talking about someone wanting to contribute to society with their job and through taxes. You have no right to other people's money
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 06:00 PM
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That comment was to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:58 PM
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You have the right to decide how high your taxes should be and to change them for any reason. Or if someone doesn't want to contribute a job that benefits society
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:53 PM
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Just because someone doesn't want to contribute to society for various reasons, it's not the same as wanting a sex slave. It's not about the state giving you sex, but you have the right to decide over your money and opinions about taxpayers' money. You don't protest against society because you want sex slaves but you can want to have normal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:42 PM
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"There is no covert clause that guarantees you sex for holding down a job and paying your bills. The paycheck is the reward.". Wanting to contribute to society or not, it does not mean that you are guaranteed sex. Women have the right to refuse men and men have the right to their money/have opinions about what tax money is spent on.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:38 PM
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"Sex is not a utility like water or electricity. It isn’t on the same plane as food and shelter. It’s more like going to Paris for fresh croissants: a pleasure you’re free to pursue if it matters to you, but never something society hands out by default." Sex is something that many people find important. Society in different countries can already help with, for example, contraception, abortions, sex education, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:36 PM
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"Sex should stop being seen as something “women give to men” and instead should be seen as something men and women do together (or between themselves in the case of homosexual people)."" Then women and men must first have similar conditions and opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:28 PM
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Because it is women who have the sexual power. Because men cannot participate in sex, have children and take care of children as women usually can. Women need to get pregnant and have children for society to function. If not enough women want to have children, they are not contributing enough to society. If women are to have sexual power, it is not unfair if it is women who contribute with pregnancies and new children
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:25 PM
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If women are going to have an easier time having sex, that should mean it's fair that women have to go through pregnancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:20 PM
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In the Stone Age, women probably needed to have more relationships with men while men also contributed, for example, with hunting. If sex is to be unequal, then we might as well bring up how it was before and now men should contribute tax money for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:18 PM
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Sex is something that is important and the existence of society depends on women becoming pregnant and having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:16 PM
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Many people talk about sex not being equal and natural selection being natural. It's about natural selection then if you don't want to pay tax money to people who are not related to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:14 PM
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It is natural to want to contribute less tax money if you are not allowed to share in it in the same way as many others.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:13 PM
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Apparently, there would be no equality in society. Otherwise, it must also be the case when it comes to 8m sex and when women are disadvantaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:09 PM
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Funny that it should be about entitlement when men complain that women should have an easier time getting sex and entitlement when women are not entitled to men's money
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:08 PM
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Entitlement? It's a right. Not all taxes are about getting sex, but it's natural to think more about other people if other people treat you the way you want other people to.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:07 PM
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It is natural that men who do not have children do not want to contribute as much to the taxpayers' money as men who do. If someone was chosen as a father, it could be as if having children becomes a privilege
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:05 PM
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For example, the woman could have had an abortion. Women usually have more options to choose from than men who want to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:04 PM
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It could be more about equality. Women shouldn't have an easier time getting sex than men. It's common for many people to talk about equal relationships when women are disadvantaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 05:01 PM
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Don't say anything about being obligated to give something sexual during sex. You're also talking about some morality now
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:59 PM
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It is natural that men do not want to contribute more than necessary if women do not give things in return
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:54 PM
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You also don't owe the women anything including money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:53 PM
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And then one could demand that women should not have it easier than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:46 PM
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It should then be about women believing they have the right to sex and feeling entitled. It is even considered unequal when women are allowed to have a worse sexual life than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:44 PM
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You have no right to anything even during sex. I might as well say that you should be content with what you get. By your logic
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:41 PM
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Now suddenly men owe women something It's natural to care more about other people if you have relationships with other people
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:39 PM
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It's not about rights to women's bodies. If men don't have the right to sex from women, then women don't have the right to men's money. You think women should be allowed to keep sexual advantages while men should accept equality when it suits women.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:38 PM
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It is natural that people don't want to contribute as much tax money if they don't get to use it themselves, for example for contraceptives, abortions, money to take care of children, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:36 PM
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Depends on what you mean by "owning" women's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:33 PM
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Women don't owe men sex, but men don't owe women money.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 04:31 PM
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Many women don't accept when they have a worse sex life than men. She also talks about men having to do something for her to be satisfied.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:46 AM
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In that case, it should be okay if women are allowed to have a worse sexual experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:42 AM
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Then women won't be exploited if they have sex with even more people.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:39 AM
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In that case, it should be okay even if women have a worse sex life, even if it's about, for example, the number of orgasms during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:34 AM
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"that her efforts are being reciprocated." You're talking about the "fair" sex now too "women personal goal in life isn't satisfying mens sexual needs".. Then it shouldn't be about men's goal being to adapt to women's wishes. "Women have a life to live and they aren't NPCs" Men also have the right to their own lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:27 AM
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There is no right then if more women can have a sex life than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/25 11:22 AM
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If it's just about discrimination against two consenting people, why are we talking about, for example, having the right to love whoever we want? It should then only be an argument about consent. There is no discrimination in the law if many people do not accept homosexuality which leads to homosexual people not having sex or not daring to tell ordinary people about their sexual orientation. I would like to add that I personally think there is nothing wrong with pride festivals but compare it to…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/25 12:20 PM
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It is then about them wanting consent for sex. It is consent that they think is something they value a lot and they think it is bad when they are without it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:28 PM
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So it's consent that makes sex a need?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 03:20 PM
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You don't really think that argument would hold true and you don't think it's relevant to people who have sex. You might think so but it doesn't seem that way based on how you look at other situations You brought up that argument yourself. I wasn't discussing anything about needing sex to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:56 PM
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Monks and asexual people would lack consent during sex? You think that doesn't apply to other people. You take to give people value sex and you never use it in other contexts when people have sex-related problems. I didn't bring up the fact that you need sex to survive, you brought it up because you want to sound like sex is necessary because you think you lose something from it. It could be about legal sex that these men complain about being without
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 02:53 PM
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And in that case it could be a matter of entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 11:35 AM
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Women shouldn't get relationships by existing. It's rare that women have to do anything to get interest from men or that they need to spend as much time getting relationships as men might need to
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 11:28 AM
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In that case, you are more like a child when you expect other people to go without sex when you yourself expect that sex is important to you and many others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 11:26 AM
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If it's about two consenting people who want to have sex and therefore they should be able to have it, you can't make a comparison with monks and asexual people and then claim that you don't need to have sex to survive. That's not what it was supposed to be about. At that time, I thought that the intention of what you wrote was actually about something else.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 10:56 AM
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It could still be about men who want consensual sex complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 10:46 AM
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There does not have to be any discrimination behind why two people of the same sex should be prevented.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/25 10:43 AM
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If it is relevant to say that you don't need sex to survive, you would have heard it in other contexts more often. There is a lot you don't need to survive these days, but it is important anyway. The intention is also how you want to pretend that sex is not a need because you think otherwise you lose something from it? Why are pride festivals important to different people if sex is not something you need to survive? Why is female orgasmgap a problem then? Why are dating apps big?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:13 PM
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It is not relevant to talk about relationships not being necessary for survival and especially for relationships many people can talk about it as something important that you must have, for example pride festivals, the debate about female orgasm gap, that women should be able to fuck around with many men. There is a lot that can be important to have in today's society even if you don't die right away if you go without it. It could have been relevant to talk about sex being something you don't ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 07:04 PM
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You yourself wrote in a way that you would mock and that you yourself were trolling.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:26 PM
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You now acknowledge that relationships are important from before you talked about how it wasn't necessary for survival. Usually if most people have access to something, people who don't usually help those who don't "become more normal" or have society adapt to them. Since most people have relationships, there's a point in society helping. In many countries, society can help with sex life for people who already have a sex partner. People without autism don't have to work as hard as people with au…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:17 PM
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And now you want to decide what other people's standards should be and then try to make it sound like it would be fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:08 PM
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And since your vagina is not public property, there is no right to any standard. And how do you know that the people you have sex with don't have autism? Your pussy doesn't have the right to have sex with people without autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:04 PM
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There is no obligation to only date people you are attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:03 PM
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And if you say no, should it be the same for other women?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 03:01 PM
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Now suddenly it's about being fair
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 01:32 PM
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Of course, women with autism have it harder than normal women, but if dating were more like sports, they would probably have it even harder. Women with autism have a huge advantage over men with autism. This may be a contributing factor to why certain genes are inherited.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:48 PM
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And then it's not unfair if women think it's bad if men are allowed to have it better than themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:41 PM
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Heterosexual women do not have these demands on themselves and only on other women. If it had only been a competition between women, women with autism would have a harder time. I think dating between people of the same sex is fairer than dating between people of the opposite sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:39 PM
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I know that women and men cannot perform equally well, but for example, it is also usually necessary to be tall as a woman to be good at basketball. Women and men rarely compete against each other. When dating between heterosexual people, it is about two people of the opposite sex who have different conditions and different requirements. It also affects which country you are referring to. In some countries there is not as much difference between women's sports vs. men's sports as in other countr…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:34 PM
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So don't complain if, for example, single men want you to date them. It is not unfair then if it is considered a bad thing if women have many sexual partners. With that logic, it could be a matter of entitlement when women with autism are given different conditions than men with autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:27 PM
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No one stalks anyone when someone reply to someone's post on Reddit. Especially considering I haven't written many posts to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:08 PM
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You only choose that if someone wants to be a bad boyfriend. Not if they dislike the demands you make or can't meet your demands
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:05 PM
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Interesting that men would "choose" to be bad boyfriends but women don't choose that but women who have a hard time getting a man don't choose to be a bad girlfriend
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 12:01 PM
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Then the demands from men should be higher, women should demand higher demands from men and men with autism should receive extra help so that they achieve as much as possible what women with autism can do. Poorer choices are also behind why men can lower their demands
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:55 AM
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You compare with other things and you try to make it sound like it's fair. I compare it to the fact that in basketball and in college, the requirements are not different depending on what gender you are. Don't compare yourself to other things if it should be different for men and women. The competition in any sport may differ depending on your gender, but the requirements are more similar than dating between women and men. In addition, women only compete against other women in principle, and men…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:46 AM
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There are many things that you don't need to survive, but they are still important. Compare this to normal people who have average sexual interest. Do they completely opt out of sex when they have access to sex? Monks and asexual people are not without sex because sex would not be something one needs to survive. If you expect yourself to have sex or that other people have sex, you should also do it for people who want sex but are without it You wouldn't say that because it's not something you ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:21 AM
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And it can be compared to many people who have sex and can't do without it. Living celibately as a monk and being asexual, they don't know what they're losing and actually living celibately as a monk is not a choice. If it's relevant to raise the issue that sex wouldn't be a need to live a good life for men who are involuntarily left without a partner, why not use the same argument in other contexts when people have sex-related problems? It's different to compare people who believe they should s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 11:18 AM
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In that scenario, someone is interested in one, and I probably have similar choices as others then. There is no right to any standard for marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 10:55 AM
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Many women can talk about discrimination when women are allowed to have worse sexual experiences than men. If the intention is that men with autism will be left without relationships, then it is unreasonable that women with autism can have boys with autism. History is being repeated.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 10:19 AM
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If there had been more women with similar problems and they had had to lower their standards as much as men with autism would have to, it would have been different. Many people talk about dating someone from the same league
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 10:16 AM
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Then we should also discuss in other contexts that we don't need sex to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 10:13 AM
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You have autism but you should still be allowed to date men without autism
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:20 AM
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It's unequal when women with autism are made to have it easier
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 09:15 AM
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Then relationships shouldn't be something that many people value highly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:28 AM
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That person with that problem may want to date women with similar problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:25 AM
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For college and in basketball, ordinary people don't get to choose what the requirements are like you now claim people do when they not choose men with autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:20 AM
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There are significantly fewer people who are elite in basketball and fewer people who get into college than people who have sex. It is possible to choose another sport if you are short or hypothetically participate in some elite handicap sport. It is more fair then because even women who are rejected for elite basketball and have low IQ have more equally high demands as men who have these problems. Discussion is now also about whether it is unfair if women with autism should have it easier than …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:18 AM
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It's about entitlement then when most people have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:12 AM
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And it's about you only caring about the woman's feelings. Also, you're talking about all people with autism and what all women should opt out of. Not that women can think differently
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:08 AM
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If it leads to relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/25 08:04 AM
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For most people, sex is something important. There are many interpretations of what that word means.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:41 PM
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There is no alternative then where it is about entitlement when people have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:32 PM
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I still think it's about wanting to be entitled to sex when someone is having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:31 PM
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No matter what. I think it's about women getting sex by existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:23 PM
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Yes, that you think you deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:21 PM
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Your opinion. It could be about entitlement when, for example, men get more orgasms during sex. It should be about entitlement if women should get sex because they are women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:19 PM
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It can be about existing and getting something. And women can want to get benefits because they are women
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:16 PM
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Your opinion that it shouldn't be about entitlement when women get things by existing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:12 PM
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It is then about most people being entitled to sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:08 PM
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Women are not entitled to any standards when dating
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:04 PM
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And then that should apply to women too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 11:03 PM
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Actually not. You can change your mind.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:51 PM
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Women should then have the same opportunities as men. It is then a matter of natural selection when women have sex with these men
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:50 PM
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Those with blue eyes then get things by existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:46 PM
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Society should then not work to improve women's sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:44 PM
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It's an opinion what you mean by entitlement For most people, the option of getting no from everyone doesn't exist. What I meant was that it's an opinion that it should be about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:43 PM
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Then it's about them also wanting to have sex by existing in a way that most people have access to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:38 PM
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There are many things you can do without dying, and at the same time, society helps you. If the government is not going to do anything, it should apply to all the problems that affect people's sex lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:36 PM
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That wouldn't be fair according to that person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:32 PM
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It is normal to have sex and different difficulties that different people are born with can affect the chance, which means that it is already about people having sex by existing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:26 PM
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Since most people have sex and many women can have sex without having to do anything else, it could be about them getting sex by existing. That it is enough, for example, not to have a diagnosis to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:25 PM
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It could still be about entitlement and them being allowed to have sex by existing "seeing a relationship as something owed to a person for existing.". There is an opinion that it is about that but not when someone should choose them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:23 PM
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It could still be about entitlement and them being allowed to have sex by existing
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:21 PM
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Isn't that exactly what it's all about now? That women with autism or ordinary people can have relationships by existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:17 PM
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And then it's not discrimination if someone dates someone they dislike
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:15 PM
1

And since dating is not equal, it is reasonable that people can date people they dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:12 PM
1

Those demands are not a right either.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:08 PM
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It should then be about women being able to get sex by existing.. . It's about women not deserving of sex with men who don't have autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:07 PM
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Relationships are considered important by many people
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:02 PM
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It wouldn't be fair, from what I heard.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:01 PM
1

There is no right that others may not encourage others to date a particular person.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 10:00 PM
1

And if it's the same way, then women with autism must have it just as hard as men with autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:57 PM
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But that wouldn't be fair because it's not discrimination, you said? It's not discrimination then if some people are with someone they're not attracted to. All of a sudden you "care" what everyone wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:41 PM
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And then you should instead think about the fact that you get benefits just because you are a woman and it is rather about an injustice against men with autism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:38 PM
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But that's not what's most important, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:37 PM
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If you bring up the fact that you have autism, you should instead be happy that you are a woman and have autism. You are not thinking about the benefits that you can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:30 PM
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The fact that women with autism have it much easier may be proof that women need to do more follow-up. If you date a woman with autism, you may end up with boys with autism. It may be fair that you end up without relationships then too
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:27 PM
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It's mean to talk about someone not deserving, especially when you're talking about autism and not individuals with autism. "autistic men are generally a huge pain in the ass," Mockery
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:16 PM
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You were talking about men having different preferences. There were probably men who wanted to date her. Getting married vs. being completely out of relationships is a big difference
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:13 PM
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There are fat men. You might think it's unfair that a problem only/mainly exists in one gender
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:10 PM
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If it were just about no discrimination, this actually also applies even if you feel disadvantaged.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:06 PM
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How crappy you are how you write. Deserve because they did what? Why do you only care about the woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 09:02 PM
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You are now talking about what all women should choose. You are not saying what you only want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:58 PM
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?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:54 PM
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It's just a fact. You wanted to point out that it's not discrimination when someone doesn't want to date you. The same goes if you date someone you're not attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:52 PM
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Then there must be someone they don't want to date but are interested in. You make those comparisons yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:48 PM
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So people with autism shouldn't want people to date them? It's other people's feelings that only matter?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:45 PM
2

And now suddenly it's about what everyone wants
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:39 PM
1

There is then no discrimination when you date men with autism even if you are not attracted to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:39 PM
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If men with autism want to date women with autism, they should want women with autism to date them. It's not about you actually having a solution to the problem, you're just writing that they'll be without relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:30 PM
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You shouldn't complain, don't start a thread like this and don't reply in threads like this. It's so selfish that you talk like you're the victim now when you're supposed to have relationships by existing even though you have autism. That you're the one who's entitled. You can do whatever you want in the end
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:29 PM
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Most men don't have autism and now we're also comparing with women who have autism. Just because men have different preferences than women doesn't make it fair when women with autism usually have it easier than men with autism. Funny that you're talking about some entitlement when you're the one who gets things for free
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:23 PM
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It is hypocritical that you talk about it being about something entitlement when women with autism gets things by existing and at the same time you talk about it not being fair and no discrimination is taking place. It is then okay that you can complain about women with autism. It would not be fair
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:18 PM
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It is now also about comparing women who have autism
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:15 PM
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There is a point in complaining that it is unfair for women with autism to have it better than men with autism. You yourself talk about how it would be wrong to expect women with autism to date men with autism and that it should be about some entitlement. You yourself talk about injustice. If you admit that women should have it better, you should rather keep quiet and not complain now.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:08 PM
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If people with autism can be attractive even if they have different problems. What makes them attractive in your opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:07 PM
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You don't explain why women with autism shouldn't date men with autism now and why regular men should date women with autism
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/25 08:04 PM
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There are of course more options but the distribution that men can have may be more about the probability that they have succeeded, for example, in becoming very rich. Not all men can take advantage of the advantage. Being able to have a family is something that affects one's life more. Almost all women can get pregnant and have children, while, for example, few men are very rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 03:37 PM
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It matters which country you are referring to and what someone thinks is most important in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:20 PM
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Being able to have a family is more important than, for example, whether there are more men in a country's parliament.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/25 02:19 PM
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People who are left without sex and relationships should not be mocked in that case. There are many people who do it because of someone's appearance, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:18 PM
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With your logic, one could have argued that the women you empathize with should instead be left without relationships and sex. "therefore the widespread notions that women are ruining dating by excluding large numbers of men as options is untrue." Just because something is allowed doesn't mean you have to do it. It's also not quite the same because if a man refuses a woman, there's a high probability that she could go to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:12 PM
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It's about the right to refuse someone sex/relationship. Men don't refuse as many women as women refuse men and the demands tend to be different. You don't have to agree with who gets refused and it's still permissible to blame the person who refuses (it's common to say, for example, that incel men can have high demands). "Why? In terms of personalities, views, values, behavior and beliefs (not looks), too many bad options exist in modern dating. Which makes it easy to relate to and empathize wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 07:11 PM
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I think that women and men would be treated differently if it were invented. That there would be less talk about men trying to impregnate as many women as possible/men should have many sexual partners while women should have few. Sex and relationships could be less about impregnation/pregnancies. How much men do for their children depends a lot on which country you are in, but single men who have children with an artificial uterus will likely have to take great responsibility for the child(ren) …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:06 PM
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That's right. There is a reason why more men are homeless, have autism, etc. compared to women. Women usually tend to have "better" genes than men, probably because it is worse for a woman to have "bad genes" than a man because more women have children compared to a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/25 02:31 PM
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For the sake of equality, men must become more attractive, genetic modification?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:45 PM
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It's different if you're attractive because you're attractive and not because women are automatically attractive. Then it's demonstrably about gaining interest by existing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/25 03:44 PM
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It may have become both easier and more difficult. Many people have raised their standards as they have more people to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:26 PM
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Why shouldn't it be about entitlement when women complain in that case? Are women allowed to complain without a man having approved it first?
/r/MensRights28/07/25 08:17 PM
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It should then be about men not owing women anything and women are justified in complaining. Women should not then also have their own opinion about their own sex lives.
/r/MensRights28/07/25 08:13 PM
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Everyone has the right to have their own opinion about what they want their sex life to be like. You've already made up your mind about whether someone wants to have sex with someone they don't like.
/r/MensRights28/07/25 08:09 PM
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One's choices are limited in various ways
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/25 07:03 PM
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There is no free choice when it comes to sex and relationships And since sex and relationships are supposed to be about deserving it, different women can't deserve better relationships either.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/25 11:31 PM
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"Men that hate women dont deserve to be with a woman". "Men also dont get to decide which women deserves sex and relationships.". Women should decide which men deserve sex, and women should be allowed to decide for themselves whether they deserve sex. "Men that hate women hurt women". "Unless you remove free will its up to women" Then it should be about women hurting men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:12 PM
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"Relationships are all about power and who's in control for you guys" ?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:06 PM
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If you can say that some men deserve sex, what makes it so that men can't say that to women and that they don't deserve good relationships? If it's about not wanting relationships with women, then it's not about someone not deserving of sex. Better not to talk about someone deserving of sex or someone not deserving of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 04:05 PM
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You talked about horrible people. How nice are you then?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:13 AM
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And why do you think that? If you're a terrible person if you're not in a relationship, then it should be natural for as many people as possible to have relationships because that's what "normal" people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:12 AM
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And who is to decide whether a man is a bad person? Are you a bad person if you think it's wrong for sex and relationships to be more on women's terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:08 AM
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It's interesting that people should be able to say that different men don't deserve anything, but then these men shouldn't be allowed to decide how women deserve sex and relationships, because suddenly it's about the woman's own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:06 AM
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You also want sex to be more on your own terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 11:02 AM
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It's bullshit when you talk about wanting sex to be a certain way and then you think it's wrong when men talk about how they want sex to be. You want to decide what sex should be when you want some men to die alone. You want to decide what sex should be because you think the market works well when different people have a harder time getting sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:54 AM
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You're also talking about fair sex now. "a dating market where the most undesirable people alive struggle immensely is a dating market that's working." How then and why?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:51 AM
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And then people can claim that women don't deserve different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:49 AM
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So it's okay if men hope that different women will be without sex and relationships and they will only have access to men they dislike. You also talk about fair sex when you think those who are the least attractive should have the hardest time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:47 AM
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Sex shouldn't be a need according to you, now suddenly you're claiming it's about natural and biological urges
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:30 AM
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But women should have freedom of choice but not men. https://NP.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1lks5ok/how_do_you_feel_when_men_on_here_treat_your/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:11 AM
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Women also complain. "If what you want is to be wanted, you need to be a guy people want.". You complain too
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 10:02 AM
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There is no entitlement to one kind of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:58 AM
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It would be about there being no right and no need
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:56 AM
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The intention is not that you talk about sex being neither a right nor a need. The intention is that you want sex to be more on women's terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:53 AM
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And you could call it entitlement now that sex is supposed to be about desire.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:49 AM
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It's not called rape because technically you don't have a right to a certain standard of sex. That if a woman were to agree to have sex, she wouldn't have lost anything under any law. The woman hasn't lost anything or under any law if she doesn't have sex. You could call that justification now. Love and sex is not a right=There is no right to a certain kind of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/25 09:39 AM
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I just made a comparison with if someone claims that "sex is not a need". In that case, it should mean that it applies in all situations. I have not said that women should be raped. You yourself think it sounds strange if someone says that women should have sex with people they dislike because "sex would not be a need". Then stop claiming that it is not a need if you really mean it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:48 PM
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Then stop saying that sex is not a need if you only want to be allowed to say it when you feel like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:44 PM
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You then acknowledge that sex can be a need. What I mean is if someone hypothetically claims, for example, that water is not a need, that should apply even if someone has access to water.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:43 PM
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You could also twist it to mean that women lose nothing if they have sex with these men. The intention is that you want to pretend that sex is not a need because women should not lower their demands, not that you actually think sex is not a need. That sex is not a need is always something that applies in these contexts.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:41 PM
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If they choose to do so, they have lost nothing if they dislike these men. Otherwise, it should be about a certain standard for sex if someone has sex. That there is a need to say no to sex but there should be no need to have it if you don't have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:21 PM
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"decline dates, refuse to provide numbers or other contact info, and otherwise reject men they don't want. Same as men are free to reject women they don't want". Which women do they say no to who are interested in them and want the phone numbers of these men? If it is a right, then these men must have access to it. It is not a right but a theoretical choice if you are given that opportunity. People do not say that it is a right to say no to food on the plane and that should apply to all people, …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:12 PM
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In many countries, it is illegal to insult others. Your bullying of other people, among other things, can lead to your being convicted. You're trying to pretend that it's just about denying someone and that all people should have the same opportunities to do so. In that case, one could argue that these men are denying these women and that they are pathetic if they blame these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 05:05 PM
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It is absolutely a right to say no to someone. They are completely legally, ethically, and morally justified to swipe left on them in dating apps, decline dates, refuse to provide numbers or other contact info, and otherwise reject men they don't want. Same as men are free to reject women they don't want" You still don't have to say no to someone if you don't want to. What I mean is that it's strange if you talk about the right to sex but there should still be a right to say no.. If hypothetical…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:49 PM
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Yes, gender discrimination.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:40 PM
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It's not a right, it's a theoretical possibility. Not actively contacting someone is not quite the same as actively denying someone who is interested in you. It's not a right to say no to ugly women who are interested in you because there is no right to sex regardless of who would be interested in you. Theoretically, you want to get something more than what is included in the law. What we're talking about now is that sex and love should not be a need and not a right. That should mean that you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:30 PM
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What I mean is that if it's going to be about sex being neither a right nor a need, then it should mean that women haven't lost anything if they were to theoretically date these men. They don't have a right to these men's bodies. Otherwise, men would also be able to claim that it's something bad when another person doesn't do what you want them to do. There is no obligation in the law that you should only have sex with people you like. I'm talking about what is included in the law and what it ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:15 PM
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"Incels on this sub routinely deride women for not being willing to date men who are some combinations of shy, sexually inhibited, anti-social, gamers, loners, NEETs, and/or physically unattractive to them". Which unattractive women are they interested in? It is technically not a right to say no to someone because it is not a right for someone to want to have sex with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 04:04 PM
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If it's about there being no right and no need, then that should mean there's nothing wrong with women being with such men. How can women suddenly have lost something now if there's no need, no right and you don't owe anything to others?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:54 PM
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If sex is not a resource, people can't add up people's sex lives in some statistic and then claim that women are discriminated against when they have fewer orgasms than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:51 PM
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If sex and love are not something you need, then why do so many people want it?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:40 PM
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If it's going to be about there being no need and no right, then this is what you should hear when women are dissatisfied. If there's no need, then women don't have or have lost anything. In that case, it should hypothetically end up with women only getting access to men they dislike.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:36 PM
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(If you have a sex life). When do you think it's about entitlement when you are dissatisfied with your potential partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:32 PM
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If sex and love are not a right and not a need, then it should mean that it is hypothetically, for example, not a need for a woman if she is in a relationship with someone. People are not saying that women should settle for incel men because sex and love should not be a need. When do you think love and sex start to become a need?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:26 PM
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(Now we know what you're really after).. When you talk about sex being neither a right nor a need, it's also about how you interpret it. If sex is about freedom, then there should be a need for sex. If sex is not a need and not a right, that should mean that there is no need or a certain standard for sex. One's own feelings don't have to be that important.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/25 03:18 PM
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Do you think it's okay when women are allowed to have it worse than men for something else?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:41 PM
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And if it's just about "the right genes," all that's required is for women to use a sperm donor when they want to have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:37 PM
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If it's just about reproduction and passing on the "right genes" , then there's no need for example sex to be solely on women's terms. Sex, relationships, etc. are already a bit about reproduction today. When women want to have children, they then can use a sperm donor.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:29 PM
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It would then be enough for ordinary men to be allowed to have sex, relationships, and take care of children, but women allow themselves to be impregnated by a sperm donor with good genes. For example, it is not necessary for women to be allowed to enjoy sex more if it is about passing on the "right genes
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:27 PM
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Life is about more than just reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:22 PM
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In that case, the sex you have should be about procreation. The vast majority of women should then have children. It is not unfair if it is women who take more care of the children. It's not unfair then if women are disadvantaged for other things in society, it would be about female privilege when it comes to reproduction. Then you think it's wrong if women have sex and then have an abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:22 PM
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You want to decide what all women should choose
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:19 PM
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Then I might have to claim that men are people too
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:15 PM
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Depends on how you look at it. You could call it women being entitled now and wanting the right to sex and relationships on their terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/25 07:12 PM
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It is legal if a state were to prevent people from having sex in different ways, such as more expensive contraception It is a human right to have the desire to be in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 04:16 PM
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Even if men would have done the same thing if it had been hypothetically men who had better conditions and opportunities, it is not the same thing. Men are not allowed to take part in the advantages that women have right now. In other contexts, many women would not have accepted in the Western world if they had been told that they would have received, for example, higher salaries if they had been men instead. That inequality would be okay for women would also be allowed to discriminate against m…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:45 PM
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What he means is that it's okay if women are allowed to have many and good choices. That it's okay and the blame is on lonely men. Haven't you read anything about his previous threads in this group?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:04 PM
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How many threads are you going to start blaming lonely men before you're satisfied? It would be better if you wanted to discuss seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:02 PM
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If you agree, you're not doing what he really thinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 09:00 PM
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I wouldn't exactly say self-aware. It may be true what he says now but that's not really the purpose of the thread. He has started many threads where he has clearly tilted a lot in favor of women. It can't be that he is interested in discussing, but the purpose is that he wants to influence other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:59 PM
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Regardless of whether it's true or not, the purpose is probably that Cjaylyle is doing it to blame lonely men. He's not interested in whether it's true or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:56 PM
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You start new threads with similar messages. You want to blame lonely men
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 02:02 PM
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It is not then the person who was denied who is at fault. No one owes anyone anything
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 07:13 PM
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Freedom is not violated when men gain access to legal sex, I never said it was? It's as you say, when you claim that it's "freedom" when some men are without of sex. You did not write that it is about "freedom" from not being raped. If freedom were to mean that some men are without of sex, then it should have meant that "freedom". is violated if these men are legally allowed to have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 07:11 PM
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And it's also true that you talk about freedom because you want the fault to be on the men. That you want to make it sound like it's not a problem. That there's something positive when someone goes without sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:23 PM
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There was a mistake in the post. What I meant is that it is strange and wrong to claim that "freedom" is when different people are without of sex involuntarily. Like someone would say that it is "freedom" when someone is poor, freedom when someone is ugly, freedom when someone dies of cancer because they can't afford health insurance. For men who are denied sex, there is no freedom.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:17 PM
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"Women have the right to deny ANY man sex. No man has the right to violate a woman’s bodily autonomy by having sex with her if she doesn’t want it. That’s freedom." Yes, that's right. What I disagree with is that you call it "freedom" when different people have non-consensual sex. By claiming that it's about "freedom" when different men go without sex, you're trying to make it sound like it's not a problem when they go without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 08:07 PM
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It doesn't sound good when you call it "freedom" now.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:51 PM
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So you think it's about freedom when women die of cancer? (because they don't have money for health insurance in the US) The law doesn't say in any Western country that it's a right that other people aren't allowed to have sex. Or that freedom is that someone is without sex. Freedom is about someone not being raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:26 PM
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Link to such a law in any western country!? Being able to deny someone sex with that particular person does not mean that it is freedom if someone is left without sex, that is not what you deny someone for
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:09 PM
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Especially when it comes to sex, you also have the right to your sexuality. It doesn't say in any law that it is freedom if a person is without of sex. It just says that you can't do anything against someone's will sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:07 PM
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If it's supposed to be called freedom when some men go without sex, then you're saying they owe something.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 07:04 PM
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It's an opinion whose fault it is. These men don't owe anything to anyone either
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:55 PM
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You don't need consent to care about men too.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:52 PM
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It's an opinion that you call it "freedom"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:51 PM
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There are no prohibitions on calling it deprived sex. It's still possible to think it's bad when someone goes without sex. No person is then deprived of anything if they have sex with people they dislike. There are various ways to legally prevent people who want to have consensual sex with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:50 PM
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Even in the Stone Age, women were dependent on men.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 06:17 PM
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Not according to any law. There is actually no right to any standard in sex. What is consensual does not include someone having sex with someone they are not attracted to. You can imagine understanding women's situation and the solution now does not have to be for any person to lower their demands. You yourself think it is not freedom if a woman has sex with someone she is not attracted to. It is also not freedom if men are deprived of sex against their will for any reason. That is an opinion on…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:54 PM
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It's not,"freedom" if different men are left without sex. Stop using the word "freedom" in these contexts. (And if you refer to any law, as I said, formally, you are not entitled to any standard when it comes to sex) It is insensitive to talk about "freedom" when men are deprived of sex, when they want sex. You talk like it is ony about women's feelings, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:42 PM
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So if there are many people who don't have sex, society should help first, you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:34 PM
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It is still permissible to think it is bad if you are left without sex. It is still permissible to think it is bad if you are given worse conditions than others. In many countries, healthcare and society can help people who have a sex life. There is no prohibition if societies would help someone become more "normal" and more independent
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:33 PM
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No one then has forced anyone to have certain requirements.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:31 PM
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And it's no longer then about privilege. There's a bigger point in getting help.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:25 PM
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It is socially accepted in many countries to complain about men's demands as a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:22 PM
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No matter what, it's not nice when you talk about some "freedom" when some men are left without sex. Then someone could call it "freedom" when women have sex with people they dislike. You yourself talk like different men owe something to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 05:01 PM
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It can still be a bad thing if someone is without sex. And that scenario is very unusual. For example, it could be considered somewhat selfish if women do not have an orgasm during sex. Then sex should just be about someone being denied sex by someone. Then it shouldn't be selfish if women only have access to men they dislike. There are many examples of when many people think something is bad even though no law says it's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:49 PM
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And in another thread Cjaylyle started, he wrote that it's not about anything other than the fact that you yourself are behind it if a man is rejected by all women. Now suddenly he claims that it's about what women demand and what freedom is for women when men are rejected by women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:43 PM
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"His lack of sex is a symptom of women’s right to freedom and choice and control of their bodies actually being in effect.". What you're saying now doesn't add up. For example, In another thread you started "Women not granting men sexual access is not a “mens issue”" you wrote that that "Your ability to attract a mate is entirely down to you. Its esch individual man who has ownership over it and responsibility for changing it simply because there IS not other answer to it." Now it sounds like yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:40 PM
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Technically, women are not entitled to someone else's standard of sex. It is not oppression when women are deprived of sex for many different reasons. If sex is just about freedom when some men are deprived of sex, then it is also "freedom" when women have sex with men they dislike and when women cannot have sex for many different reasons. It's not about you following some law about what should be called freedom or not. It would be crappy if someone said it's freedom when women can't have a sex …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:23 PM
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So freedom is that some men should be without sex? If it were about any freedom, all men would also have the right to deny women who are interested in them.( Because someone has to be interested in you before you can deny someone). Do you think it is freedom when women are without sex even though they would have liked to have one?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:10 PM
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Many women in Western Europe also want to have a better sex life at the expense of the other sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 04:02 PM
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It's a bit like someone saying that it's not a problem if no one buys anything from a certain store. For the store it's something negative and for the customers it can be a problem if they want high quality products (or any other kind of products)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:52 PM
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Technically, women are not oppressed either if a woman is pressured into sex. It is possible to have opinions that something is bad about anything. If it's not a problem for a man if he doesn't find someone who is interested in return, then why should it be a problem if women lower their demands?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:40 PM
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So sex is just about denying someone sex? Technically speaking, there is no prohibition if women would have sex with someone without attraction, although it could be considered something crappy. You can think something is bad regardless of whether it is about any law or not. Women's freedom is that it is their sex life that only matters? You can talk about personal responsibility but it's strange that you don't understand that it's a problem if someone wants to have sex but can't find anyone who…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:33 PM
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It must then be about you wanting different men to be without sex while you think women should have better choices and a better sex life. For those men who are without sex against their will, it is a problem if they have not managed to attract anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:29 PM
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No one is forcing anyone to think someone is unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:22 PM
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"Nothing overrides a womans freedom to allow who she wants to literally touch her body". Technically, it doesn't include women having better choices than men. It doesn't include whether the sex was good or not. All people are affected by their circumstances and opportunities. You are limited by the choices of others. Why talk about women's freedom but for lonely men it should be about whether they are not oppressed in any way?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:15 PM
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There is also no law that says women can't lower their standards. There is also no law that says it is your own job to become what other people find attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 03:02 PM
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If it's not about you taking a stand for women alone, why do you write that excluded men are not oppressed etc and then complain about women who would have sex with these men? Technically, women are not oppressed either, regardless of whether they lower their demands or how the sex ultimately feels. It's about you thinking it's okay if men are excluded because it benefits you or the women while you/the women should have access to the sex you want? You have no understanding for single men in thre…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:56 PM
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Technically, women are not oppressed under any law if they agree to have sex with these men regardless of how the sex ultimately feels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:51 PM
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"Men who are not chosen are not being oppressed, they are not being forced to do anything and they are not being physically violated in any way. They are simply being asked to leave women who don't want them alone. That's it. How "bad" is it to want to be left alone?*. Technically, these women wouldn't be either if they were to have sex with these men according to some law. This applies regardless of whether the sex was painful, disgusting, enjoyable, boring, etc. They can say no but women can s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:36 PM
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Your posts are biased.. You put all the blame on the men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:33 PM
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I don't agree with you now. It is common for women to talk about men not being entitled to anything. You can have any demands you want, but other people can have their own opinion about other people. It is allowed to want a specific person even if other people don't want to be that person. Women are allowed to want a man with a big dick and it doesn't have to mean thinking about men's standards or demands. It is common for women to talk about sex and relationships not being about charity. If dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:30 PM
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I don't really agree with you now. Regardless of what other people want, you can have your own wishes for how your sex life should look. For example, women may want men with big penises and it's not to be nice to men with big dicks. It's not about them wanting men with big dicks because these men have higher or lower demands than others. If a woman has high demands, it doesn't personally benefit the men who are being dissed. Especially for sex and relationships, it's rarely about doing it becaus…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/25 02:21 PM
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"Women nor society are applying any oppression, they are not stealing or forcing you to do anything nor are they trying to control you or your body". Someone is forced to take responsibility for their appearance because you think they should have some responsibility. The thread starter believes that you yourself are to blame if you are perceived as unattractive. One could just as well then claim that women or society have a responsibility for their choices and they ruin it for single men. No law…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 09:50 PM
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Call it what you want, but if it happens with consent, you have the right to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:12 PM
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https://www.unfpa.org/news/five-things-you-need-know-about-consen What do you call consensual sex then?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:05 PM
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There is a right to sex if it is consensual. This means that when someone complains, it may be consensual sex they are looking for. In order to have consensual sex with someone, you need another person. In order to exercise that right, you need someone who wants to have sex and with that person. If women want to be alone, they cannot exercise that right
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:02 PM
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Right to sex if the sex is consensual
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:56 PM
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Freedom is how you want to live.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:53 PM
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It is a human right to have consensual sex so the complaint could be about legal sex with someone else's body
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:49 PM
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It is not a human right that someone has to think the way you want. It is also a human right to want to be in a relationship. Since it is not about men wanting to be alone, it is not about freedom
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:47 PM
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It is not freedom then for men who want a partner. What is freedom for you may be something else for someone else Many women feel bad if they don't have access to men they appreciate. It's not about them thinking about the men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:45 PM
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In that case, it shouldn't be about oppression, considering what you wrote at the beginning of the thread. There is no oppression happening now against men and one should have their own personal responsibility according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:30 PM
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And men don't owe women anything either. He talks like you're responsible if someone finds you unattractive. It can still be bad if someone goes without sex. Men are not responsible for what other people are attracted to, or for being behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:27 PM
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I haven't said anything about it being the same thing, but I wanted to point out what oppression can look like.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:23 PM
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There are already pride festivals etc where heterosexual people also show up. Have you seen any festivals where women get involved for loney men? If there is a general lack of anusv for homosexual men why is it not something that is discussed on social media for example?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:17 PM
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Your opinion. There are still many men who are without sex
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:13 PM
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And if it's about both people's conditions, then in that case it could be about a man wanting a specific woman and it's about women being allowed to adapt to the man's demands.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:00 PM
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Consent to sex does not mean that any woman can get any advantage just because you are a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:58 PM
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That doesn't mean it has to be to the advantage of women. If it's the same for men now, it should mean that there's no problem if sex became more equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:54 PM
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(Speaking of oppression, it can also be when you prevent something)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:49 PM
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It is your opinion that it should not be an issue. In a democracy, you can have different opinions about something. According to many people, it is an issue
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:47 PM
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Being able to have a sexual partner generally gives women a big advantage over men. However, having an orgasm during sex generally gives women a disadvantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:28 PM
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Many different reasons, for example that men tend to have lower demands for biological reasons and higher demands from women these days. That it is easier as a woman to give sexual pleasure, etc. That women are the ones who can get pregnant. If it is about free will, do you think it also applies when women are disadvantaged?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:25 PM
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And why shouldn't it be about women who want to control men if it's on the woman's terms?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:15 PM
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"When women are economically, socially and sexually free". If it's about them having better choices and conditions, it's about women generally having it better than men. If women lack the same choices as men, it's not about equality between the sexes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:14 PM
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Actually not in this case because women have it much easier than men for this particular thing. So you think it's about personal responsibility in the debate about female orgasmgap?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:04 PM
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"It's literally just women leaving you alone and wanting you to leave them allne.That's it. That's the "issue" Many women would probably think it would be good if different men managed to change to their demands. The fact that women want to leave different men alone may be because they have already had access to what they want thanks to being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:02 PM
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Personal responsibility may be important, but it should also apply to women. Do you think it is about personal responsibility when women have a worse sex life because they are women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:50 PM
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It can still be a male issue now whether it's about men who are without sex or whether you're discussing the disadvantage that men have
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:48 PM
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You talk like men owe women something and it's about them having done something to themselves when they get rejected.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:45 PM
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Equality is apparently okay as long as it benefits women. It is socially accepted to complain as women when they have it worse than men or that women had a harder time enjoying sex in the past. It is still possible to think it is unequal without the solution being for some woman to be raped.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:42 PM
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And then it's about the fact that it's very difficult for women to think that there's anything wrong with them because women should have different conditions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:39 PM
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Why isn't it now about women wanting to control men's bodies?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:37 PM
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Consent to sex is not about sex being only on women's terms. If it's about personal responsibility, then women should take as much responsibility as men need to do to get sex. It wouldn't then be about oppression of women or men wanting to control women's bodies if it's women who have to adapt to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:36 PM
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In that case, you should blame women when they have worse sex lives than men or when they had worse
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:33 PM
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"Women nor society are applying any oppression, they are not stealing or forcing you to do anything nor are they trying to control you or your body". This is about opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:28 PM
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Many women also talk as if sex were a resource
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:27 PM
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If sex is not a resource, there would be no debate about female orgasmic dysfunction, for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:26 PM
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It is not discrimination then if it is women who have to adapt to men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:25 PM
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So it's women's fault if they have worse sex lives than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:24 PM
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"Women nor society are applying any oppression, they are not stealing or forcing you to do anything nor are they trying to control you or your body" What I mean is that it's not about women being oppressed, that they're forced to do something with their bodies, that women have been robbed of something, that it's not about someone wanting to control women's bodies when different men want sex to be on these men's terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:22 PM
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There are millions of women who orgasm during sex, but it's still called "female orgasmgap"
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:16 PM
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You talk about men having obligations themselves and that it's about men having done something to themselves. Men don't have any obligations either and it doesn't have to be about you having done something to yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:10 PM
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It could be that they are men. Women generally have an easier time getting interest from men than the other way around.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:06 PM
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It is not then about men wanting to control women's bodies if they want women to adapt to them. When sex and relationships are to be on women's terms, it would not be about oppression or women wanting to control men's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:04 PM
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It is then about men not oppressing women, that women have not lost anything, and that it is not about men wanting to control women's bodies if it is women who should adapt to men
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:01 PM
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This means that it is not unfair if it is the women who have to adapt you to the men. It would not be fair according to various people here
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 01:00 PM
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It may be a man's issue. Many people think it's a woman's issue when women, for example, fail to orgasm during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 12:58 PM
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And maybe it was natural when women had worse choices than men before, that would be about evolution according to you. Not that everyone should have a good life with good choices
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:11 PM
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It's interesting that you talk about past discrimination against women but at the same time you talk about sex being about evolution. You can think something is unfair regardless of whether it's about evolution or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:09 PM
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And there are many women who have sex and have an abortion without wanting any children. And it's totally okay when women with bad genes bleed to death during childbirth? I think it's bad If you can accept what today's society is like, you should be able to accept that many men have sex with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:03 PM
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"We're one of the few social sex species, where our females are horny even when we're not fertile." This means that you also had sex when the woman was fertile and that led to children being created. The woman's body is still not adapted to have as much sex as many women have today. Pregnancy was so dangerous before that women still biologically have a harder time getting as horny as men can be, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 09:01 PM
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Abortions and contraception are something that we humans have manufactured and our bodies are not adapted to them. With the way you reason, one could argue that murder, violence, rape are natural because they happen in nature. And that is not something that is okay in today's society
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:56 PM
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Maybe for some. But it is a fact that women have been better off than men for various things, for example higher education due to higher grades. Women have been able to retain advantages that they had before, for example that they tend to live longer than men, that fewer women are murdered than men, that it is women who can get pregnant, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:52 PM
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It also depends on which countries you are talking about ? In Sweden, married women have been of legal age since c. 1921 and unmarried women since 1863
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:45 PM
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That's bad, of course. But it's still not fair if ordinary women were to have it much better than ordinary guys
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:41 PM
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It is of course bad when women had fewer rights and opportunities just because they are women. But it is bad if women are to have better choices than men and more opportunities. It is mainly when women were previously disadvantaged that things have become more equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:35 PM
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It's an opinion what a free market is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:27 PM
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Abortions and contraception are also not natural
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:25 PM
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Many women do not accept when men have it better, even when it comes to relationships, sex, and having children.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:18 PM
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It's different when compared to owning a house and how it used to be, it applies to both sexes. It mainly applies now only to men that sex and relationships have become much more difficult, not to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:15 PM
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The man who wrote that probably has a very easy time getting women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:12 PM
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That doesn't apply to most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:11 PM
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And in that case, women themselves may think it is immoral if they do not have sex with men. It would not be about treating other people well and that it is bad when someone is without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:06 PM
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You yourself are talking like someone is a victim now. No law gives you the right to a certain standard of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:04 PM
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You yourself talked about not being a victim if someone doesn't date you and different people's free will. You yourself have an opinion about when women shouldn't have sex with men. There is no prohibition if women have sex with men if they feel some moral reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 08:03 PM
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Women should be the ones who control their vaginas = It should only be on the woman's terms and it's okay when women are allowed to have it better than men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:58 PM
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There are different numbers of people of the same sex in many countries. It is possible to have multiple sexual partners at the same time. In addition, the length of time someone is without a relationship can vary depending on whether they are a man or a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:40 PM
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Of course, this doesn't apply to both sexes. She mentioned that it applies if someone is denied sex by someone. She probably thinks it's unfair when women are disadvantaged when it comes to other things related to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:39 PM
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No one is forcing anyone else to have certain preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:30 PM
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So you think it's okay for women to feel bad after having a bad relationship? Women aren't victims if they date incel men? Women aren't victims if they lower their standards? If it's about what other people want, you can't say that one effort shouldn't be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:23 PM
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It is possible to be a victim without it being about a perpetrator. In this case, it is about you not thinking you are a victim and it is other people's decisions that affect you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:17 PM
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It's about you wanting to determine when someone has succeeded, as you wrote that one effort is not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:13 PM
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"And nobody literally forced YOU to be the human you are" It could be. In that case, one could argue that no one forces anyone else to have these preferences. You think there are no victims at all when it comes to dating, excluding rape? You think it's okay when women are disadvantaged
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:10 PM
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It's probably about you wanting to benefit yourself. There are then no victims when it comes to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:04 PM
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It is not unfair then or that women are victims when women are disadvantaged, for example female orgasmic dysfunction is not a problem. It is not unfair then if it is women who are affected by, for example, unintended pregnancies if they have had sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 07:02 PM
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Now suddenly when women are disadvantaged, someone is a victim. If it's not supposed to be fair when it comes to dating, it could end up being in the men's favor instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:54 PM
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"but your effort also doesn't and shouldn't guarantee you a win". You want to decide whether someone succeeded or not. It is also not about other people being victims if one's efforts lead to one's success.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/25 06:49 PM
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In that case, there is no greater reason for women to deny men sex due to little or no experience. All men should be able to handle that, you claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 11:28 AM
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Interesting that you now suddenly claim that everyone can do it. That could be the reason why you say you have to fix it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 11:24 AM
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Since it's about being expected to do certain things that should be so easy and that most people should be able to do, there's a bigger point that is a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 07:04 PM
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For whom should it be easy to become an okay lover?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 07:00 PM
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It would be so easy to have sex...
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:59 PM
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I wrote if you had claimed that it should be easy for homeless people to get housing. You yourself now admit that homelessness exists and that homelessness can be caused by mental health problems. Why do you now expect that no problems exist that make it more difficult to get a relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:48 PM
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You now confirm that the argument that it is a privilege that different people can claim is not true. Privilege does not work in such a way that the vast majority has access to something and it is considered more strange to be without what is supposed to be a privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:43 PM
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It sounds like you don't know the different problems that different men or women can have.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:40 PM
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Are you also saying that it is easy to get a house when you discuss the homeless, that it is easy to get pregnant when you discuss sterile women, that you are telling the poor to simply earn more money?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:32 PM
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And are you comparing yourself to yourself now?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:19 PM
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You haven't really understood the problems. You're just confirming now that people are expected to have some kind of love/sexual partner at a certain age.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:12 PM
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And since people expected to have experience at that age and most people have had relationships, it's no longer just a privilege. You give a reason for men to have an opinion about their situation
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 06:03 PM
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You want to decide what each woman should choose. The fact that different women would choose men with no or little experience according to you does not help these men at all. These men also have to think about their own lives. You talk as if you understand the situation of women
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/25 05:31 PM
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It can then be considered something entitlement Women may want men to choose them, but if a man wants a woman to choose him, then it can be talked about something entitlement
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/25 08:19 PM
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So you mean incel men have denied women sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:37 PM
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Theoretically but demonstrably, different people have not denied any woman sex
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 01:02 PM
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That you need proof. Not all men can make any woman refuse
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 12:57 PM
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So you mean there is at least 1 woman who likes every man? That there is a woman for a man who is available to him?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 11:11 AM
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Link to a source when rejected men wrote about denying a woman sex or relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 10:52 AM
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Not true
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/25 10:39 AM
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Interesting that now suddenly it's supposed to be unfair, unequal, men owe women something now when it comes to female orgasmgap. Otherwise, sex shouldn't be a right according to many women
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/25 07:45 PM
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That there is interest from other people. That it is not just about being rejected by other people, that you can also reject different people. You may have changed your mind about a person later
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 05:50 PM
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Women more often receive interest from men than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 05:43 PM
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It can certainly be an advantage, you can get interest from different people. You might change your choices later
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 05:36 PM
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If women don't see sex and relationships as a need, why don't these women in the thread starter's example recommend that women refrain from contact with men?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:23 PM
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I unfortunately think you are not being honest right now. For women who have a sex drive, it is clear that sex is a need. Furthermore, it is scientifically proven that women's sex drive can be higher than men of the same age, during a woman's last fertile period
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:21 PM
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Addition, want to clarify. Sex can be considered more of a need for men who have female sexual partners than women in different countries but not for men who are alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:09 PM
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Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:08 PM
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So why take offense if someone thinks they deserve to be without sex and relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:04 PM
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For example, why do many people think then it's wrong if someone says that women are single for a reason? It is evidently more socially accepted in some countries to claim that sex and relationships are a need when it comes to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:03 PM
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What I mean is why it seems to be more accepted to claim that men are single for a reason may be because it is seen more as something bad if a woman is without sex and a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:55 PM
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There is still a difference in how women and men are treated, I think, because of how sex works and how people view sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:50 PM
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https://podtail.com/podcast/the-balance/19-you-deserve-to-orgasm-and-have-an-amazing-sex-l/ It wouldn't be okay if someone had written that men deserve a good sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:40 PM
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No woman or man wrote in the thread starter's example that sex is not a right, sex is not a need, that sex is something you have to earn, that sex is not a human right. People react differently when it comes to women or men who are left without sex and relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:38 PM
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Sex and relationships are considered more about a need for women compared to men in exemple Sweden. That it is not to the same extent about women having to compete for it with other women compared to when men have to compete with other men for sex and relationships. Both due to biological reasons and the way sex is viewed because of it contributes to sex and relationships working differently for women than for men. That for women it should be more about finding the right man while men should imp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:35 PM
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Also for women, sex and relationships should be about a basic need, while for men they have to earn it. This makes men see other men more as competitors than a person with a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:27 PM
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I think it's also about the fact that for men sex and relationships are something they have to earn, while for women it's about a basic need. Women can think of helping other women in a way that men don't do for other men. If a man is left without a woman or he only meets terrible women, men generally don't care as much compared to when women are allegedly meeting terrible men and other women may see it as a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:23 PM
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It is also about the fact that it is more accepted to say that men who are single are single for some reason, because according to many, sex and relationships are supposed to be a basic need for women compared to men. If a woman is single, it may instead be the supply of men that is supposed to be the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:18 PM
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It's silly when they see sex and relationships as a need for these women, but it should be okay when, for example, the 35-year-old man goes without sex and a relationship because there should be a reason for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:11 PM
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So it's okay if men would get advantages over the women?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 06:39 PM
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In that case, with that logic, it can be said that it's not men's problem if a woman gets mad if someone brings up that women don't need to put in as much effort
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 06:38 PM
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If women take advantage of that advantage then it is also women's fault. One reason why men may have low requirements is because they have worse choices than women may have
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/25 06:23 PM
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So men should not provide for women do you think when you complain about a man who has to work too much?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 11:18 AM
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You mean that men who would have "real bad" luck with women have a handicap? How do you know it's not a handicap for the other things?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/25 11:11 AM
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The fact that there are more men than women who complain about having to lower their requirements is due to the fact that men have lower requirements than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:28 PM
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High standard as a man is not quite the same when women have high standards
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:18 PM
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Even if men want to have sex with attractive women, it won't be quite the same. Women find it easier to attract men than vice versa. There are more women who should be attractive compared to how many men should be. Unattractive as a woman is not the same as when men are unattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:16 PM
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And women have a better chance in a lifetime to find a man they appreciate and have sex and a relationship with compared to men
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:13 PM
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Men usually have lower requirements than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:10 PM
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Many men can bet on women who are not that attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:09 PM
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You can twist it that women find it much easier to attract men than men find it to attract women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/25 12:08 PM
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I could say that it is a need for me because it is about reproduction
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 01:51 PM
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And I could then say that reproduction is not a need for anyone. After all, no person would die if they went without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 01:51 PM
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And now you admit that sex is a need but for other people. I was right that you actually thought seeing was important to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 01:49 PM
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There is then no need for other people to have sex in order not to pass on his genes You yourself now admit that sex should be a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 12:22 PM
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Surely people have died prematurely due to lack of sex. If sex is not important then people who have sex would value sex less. There is no need for therapy for people who are married and have problems with their marriage?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 12:15 PM
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Sex is something that affects one's health. Even psychologically, sex can affect different people https://www.webmd.com/sex-relationships/sex-and-health
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 12:11 PM
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If sex is about a life of luxury, fewer people would have had sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 12:09 PM
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Surely there is no need then or pretending to have sex would not be a need. It does not affect anyone's health
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:55 AM
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And the intention when someone says that is because they want to pretend like sex, not out of self-interest.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:53 AM
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And there is then no need to lie, to pretend like sex is no need because you want certain men to have a worse sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:50 AM
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And you can then be able to live a normal life without any problems in case the man you said would not have children, if he does.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:48 AM
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You are rude and you don't seem to care about other people's feelings.. It's stupid to say that it would be good if they don't have children.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:47 AM
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I was right. I had not read this as you wrote and it proved you had a secret agenda. You want to pretend that sex is not necessary.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:46 AM
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Sex would not be a need, but most people have sex. Sex should not be a need when society revolves a lot around sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:43 AM
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And for many, their sex life can be something important and different people can react negatively if they are virgins in old age against their will.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:35 AM
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And other people may react differently than what you say. I could, for example, hypothetically lie and claim that you like to eat poop even though you yourself say it's disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:27 AM
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Say what you want. For many women, sex is a necessity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 11:19 AM
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Are you asexual? So you think sex is not important to you? How is it that there are few who say that sex is not important when women have sex-related problems? So you think the female orgasm gap isn't a problem?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 10:13 AM
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For many women, sex is an important thing in their lives. In addition, men and women may have different needs for sex, as men tend to like sex even more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 10:11 AM
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And usually when someone writes as you do, it is to mislead that sex is not important to different women, they think they will have to lower their demands.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/25 10:10 AM
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Most often it is about women who want to pretend that sex is not a need because she believes that the solution is for some woman to lower her demands. If sex is not a need then you would hear it more often in other contexts as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 11:10 PM
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And it is illogical if someone talks about sex being a privilege. Privilege is not something when most people have access to something. In addition, that argument is mostly used, for example, when it comes to men who lack a sex partner or when a Christian person is against sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 09:49 PM
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Then it's about entitlement to his money.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:21 PM
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Then it should be about entitlement to his money
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:20 PM
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Dating should be about equal conditions for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 08:19 PM
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It is then about the right to sex when women should have an easier time getting a sex partner because they are women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:09 PM
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According to many women when a man who is lonely and wants empathy from women
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:08 PM
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With women's logic, it's about entitlement to sex when men should even care about women's feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:07 PM
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I meant it to be about entitlement and the right to sex according to many women when women should have empathy for lonely men
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 01:06 PM
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It's hard as a woman to complain that few men want to have sex with them when women can more easily attract men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:01 PM
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Women can complain more about things that affect them
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 12:00 PM
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Different people talk about incel men who do not respect women's feelings, their own choices, wishes, their own preferences when the same people claim that it is about entitlement to sex when men become involuntary without sex and they complain that they live without sex. Women want men to respect women for free while men have to earn when a woman empathizes with a lonely man
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 11:52 AM
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By women's logic, involuntarily lonely women do not deserve a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:57 AM
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In that case, there is little empathy from women when it comes to lonely men. Then suddenly it will be about the fact that you have to earn to get a woman, that some men will naturally be without sex, that it will be about entitlement to a woman when they complain, that sex and relationship should not be a need
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:56 AM
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In that case, women lack empathy for men. It should be about the right to sex and relationships in case a man feels bad because he misses a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/24 10:53 AM
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If men's and women's terms align are to agree, then men and women must have similar requirements and opportunities.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:11 PM
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Sex should not only be on women's terms, so it shouldn't be a social problem if women don't have an orgasm during sex, just a private problem, because according to you, it wouldn't be a problem if women have an easier time getting a sex partner/on women's terms. There is no prohibition for men and women to have sex for any reason You talk about laziness and selfishness when it benefits the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 08:01 PM
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Why then do many women want to risk involuntary pregnancies just to be able to enjoy sex? If sex isn't a need then pride festivals shouldn't be as big
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:31 PM
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In any case, sex is such a great need for many women that they cannot abstain from having sex to avoid unwanted pregnancies.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:29 PM
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Both psychologically and physically you are affected by a life without sex. For example, if it is considered strange to be a virgin in old age as a man. It has been proven that sex improves one's health
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:24 PM
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Why is it taken for granted that others have sex? Why is it seen as something strange when men are virgins in old age?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:20 PM
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Evidently, sex is an important need for many women and men. Why then would they want to have sex so many times in their life? Why do many people claim that sex is an important need when they have problems that prevent them from having sex? Why then do many women want to risk involuntary pregnancies in order to have sex for the sake of pleasure. Compare how women and men can react when they are deprived of sex against their will.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:19 PM
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Nobody would own sex like you said
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:15 PM
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Then fewer women would pretend that sex is not a need when a man claims that sex is not a need
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:13 PM
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After all, sex should be equal. Many women may think it is unfair when women have a worse sex life than men, for example for the female orgasm gap
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:12 PM
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You may live a shorter life. It can affect how you feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:09 PM
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Evidence shows that sex has an effect on one's health. Compare with how women who want sex react when they are left without sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:09 PM
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Nuns are also not allowed to think about anything other than God, right? Are you asexual?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:07 PM
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In that case, women should have as much trouble getting sex as it is for men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:05 PM
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If sex is not a need of some women, then why can many women complain that orgasms are important for one's health when they become orgasmless during sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:04 PM
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It is possible as a human being to live without sunlight, human contact, etc. without dying at once, but instead resulting in you perhaps not getting very old. But it is still considered a need
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 01:02 PM
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Sex is usually a greater need for men. Evidently, a life without sex can affect one's health
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:58 PM
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For many women, a sex is a need. Research for yourself how women react when they have a bad sex life
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:56 PM
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Evidently deliberately, various women try to pretend that sex is not a need when it comes to men who claim that sex is a need
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:54 PM
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It is a big enough need for women to be socially accepted to complain when they only have access to bad sex
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:53 PM
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Sex is proven to affect one's health
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:51 PM
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Then it's about laziness and selfishness when sex has to be on women's terms. Apparently, it is difficult as both sexes are ignorant of how women achieve orgasms
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/24 12:41 PM
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The female orgasm gap is also about ignorance in both men and women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/24 04:23 PM
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Many people are ignorant of how women achieve orgasm during sex. Penetration alone is usually not enough
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:06 PM
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The fact that the blame is placed on the man also has to do with inequality. That it would be part of the male role that he should only take responsibility for the woman's orgasm. You talk about inequality in the female orgasm gap, but that is also the result of gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:03 PM
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The debate at the female orgasm gap is also about ignorance of how women achieve orgasm during sex. The fault lies with both the men and the women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 06:01 PM
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Men who have sex often can get more out of sex, but women have more access to a male sex partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:59 PM
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So a woman is bad in bed if she doesn't stand up for the man to have sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:57 PM
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Since the female body and the male body do not look the same, it is not quite the same when a man has an orgasm and when a woman has an orgasm. In addition, the man needs to perform more during sex, for example premature ejaculation does not exist in women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:56 PM
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Of course, men can also have a responsibility for a woman's orgasm, but sex is still not a right. He owes the woman sex as much as the man for whom the woman denied him sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:54 PM
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Many women often talk about sex not being a right and sex should not be equal between the sexes. Now suddenly sex must be equal between the sexes. How much have you had to perform to get a sex partner compared to the man you have sex with? But of course it's fun if the sex is good
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:52 PM
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Of course women can enjoy sex, but sex is still not a right. So you think sex should be equal or only when women are disadvantaged?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:48 PM
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It should both be the man's fault if you don't get a sex partner, if he doesn't have an orgasm during sex, or if a woman didn't have an orgasm during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:46 PM
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The fact that women are more often without orgasm during sex may be because men have to perform more to have sex and it is not enough just to be nice to women. Even women who do not need to perform very much can have sex and they may not be very good at sex
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:45 PM
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The fact that the man had an orgasm is usually due to the fact that it is easier as a woman to make a man have an orgasm than the other way around If no person owes anyone sexually, that should also apply now
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:43 PM
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It's weird that it's okay to complain about the orgasm gap as a woman, but it's not allowed to complain about how easy it is to get a cross-sex partner
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:41 PM
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It would be your own fault if you don't get the sex life you want
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/24 05:39 PM
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That only 50 percent of women would have had sex cannot be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:30 PM
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It depends on how you count
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:10 PM
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What country are you talking about now?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:09 PM
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I don't think it's unfair if women get more STDs than men if it's about women having an easier time getting a sex partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:06 PM
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Men tend to have more sex partners compared to women if you look at the statistics, but it is about some men who have had many sex partners. It is also possible to have a lot of sex but with the same person. Women usually find it easier to have sex and relationships than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:03 PM
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Women seem to protect themselves better compared to men, but if you have sex with men who have had many sexual partners, the risk of STDs should increase.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 08:00 PM
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Interesting that it should be unfair when women find it harder to orgasm during sex, but it should be about the right to women's bodies when a man complains that women have an easier time getting a sex partner
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/24 07:58 PM
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It is easier enough to accept that you are rejected if it is about different preferences that you value differently, for example if a gay man refuses a woman sex, it does not have to be because he thinks the woman is ugly. On the other hand, a man who likes thin women and he is also heterosexual, it should be worse for the woman when he denied the woman sex because she was fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 08:01 PM
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These men may still have lower requirements than the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:56 PM
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These men may still have lower requirements than the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:53 PM
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If you are rejected for something that is more difficult to fix, it naturally becomes more difficult. For example, if a man would deny a woman sex because she is fat compared to a woman denying a man sex because he is short and has a small penis
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:52 PM
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You can have different opinions about this. In addition, it is usually perceived differently depending on why people are rejected by someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:49 PM
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Even if all men had higher demands, women would still only want some of the men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:47 PM
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In that case, it is okay if women were to have fewer choices. Dating shouldn't be about charity. It should then also mean that orgasms during sex are not necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/24 07:44 PM
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And why should women then be allowed to claim that different men must be unfuckable?
/r/MensRights02/10/24 05:22 PM
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It's crazy that it's allowed to put the blame on the men and that they should do different things for the women, but if a man claims that it's the women who should do something instead of him, then suddenly it has to be about sex not being a right, that women do not owe anything to men. It is clear that it is about manipulating to one's advantage. It is not said that no one owes others anything or no one should do anything but it is the man who should do something. According to the law book, a m…
/r/MensRights02/10/24 05:19 PM
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Women are hardly worse than men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:37 AM
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There is also no right to good sex and that people with the right genes should only have sex and have children. There is no obligation for sex to be solely on your terms
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:19 AM
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You said:so the least fit to procreate can get laid. Ahhh human progress. You meant the "right genes" then
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:15 AM
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I was just responding to your comment about "right genes"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:06 AM
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Nor will it be human progress if women fuck with many men, while using contraceptives and abortions. So you're against gay people having sex because it doesn't lead to the creation of children or the passing of the right genes?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:03 AM
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What is best genes can be changed. If it is to be about reproduction then it should also apply when people have sex. They must want to have children if they have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/24 11:00 AM
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It's crazy when someone claims that it should be about the selection of genes when it's not about procreation when someone has sex or a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:28 PM
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It is a great advantage when you can genetically modify babies in the future or you can change your own genes then. Fewer people will probably refer to what it looks like in nature. Sex will be more about sexual pleasure than about genes that are supposed to be bad
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:26 PM
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What I meant is that just because different men have been without a sexual partner before, then it doesn't have to be like that forever. Also, people's choices can be changed or that you can change the faults of these men. So, for example, just because there have been women who died during childbirth, should it be the same in the future?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:22 PM
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Are you against when women have many sexual partners?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:17 PM
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Rather, it is about discrimination if most people are to be allowed to have sex, society is to revolve around sex and relationships, that society in different countries is to finance, for example, contraceptives, abortions and then some people are to be without sex and relationships because it should like do in nature according to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:15 PM
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If it is not about having children when women always have sex, then it becomes illogical for you to talk about natural selection.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:06 PM
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In that case, women must accept how men work
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:05 PM
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Just because it was like that before, it doesn't have to be like that in the future
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 07:00 PM
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Since we live in a modern society, it does not matter that much if you choose a partner who would find it more difficult to live in nature. Nowadays, it is rather an advantage to be able to get pregnant, have and be able to have children than to be completely without everything as a man. Pregnancies are so much safer these days in rich countries. If it shouldn't always be about reproduction when women have sex, then it should also apply to men who are rejected by women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/24 06:56 PM
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You are a woman pretending to be a man
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:29 PM
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There is nothing to accept as one if women only go after the top 10 percent of men. With the way you reason, one could say that women should accept if men want women to lower their demands. It is possible to twist the argument. If the aim is not for all men to get a woman, then sex and relationship should look different first.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:27 PM
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Nowadays in the western world, pregnancies are not so dangerous anymore. It is rather a disadvantage for men that they cannot get pregnant and have children in similar ways that women cannot have. In addition, as said, sex is not about conception if contraception is used and abortions
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:24 PM
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Women don't need to be selective and picky if they just have sex for pleasure.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:22 PM
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Actually, that's not true. Women still need men although it is more on women's terms The sperm does not come from the women, there are women who want sex and relationships with men they like. The men still have the heaviest jobs and women get back through contributions from the tax.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:20 PM
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Then sex should only be about procreation. Not all women need to have sex either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:18 PM
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That argument is mainly used for purposes other than wanting to discuss how sex biologically affects people. These people want to pretend that sex is not a need so that they don't have to lower their demands or because society would have to put resources into helping the people who sleep without sex against their will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:17 PM
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That argument is mainly used for purposes other than wanting to discuss how sex biologically affects people. These people want to pretend that sex is not a need so that they don't have to lower their demands or because society would have to put resources into helping the people who sleep without sex against their will.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:15 PM
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You can be psychologically affected by not having sex. There are health benefits that only come from sex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:10 PM
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In that case, women should accept when they are sexually disadvantaged. It is not a right for the disabled to have sex, and it is, among other things, no right for a woman to have an orgasm during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:04 PM
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So sex should only be on the woman's terms in your relationship?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 12:03 PM
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If that argument is relevant then it should also be used when people have a sex life or when people who have a sex partner complain about some sex-related problem
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:59 AM
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That argument is most often used to manipulate other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/24 11:54 AM
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After all, sex wouldn't be fair between the sexes. The fact that the woman ends up in the situation where they have no orgasm during sex is because women usually have an advantage in getting a sex partner. Your opinion that it should not be selfish when men find it more difficult to get a sexual partner
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/24 09:30 AM
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Even nice people can be involuntarily lonely. Horrible to claim that someone is going to commit suicide and that it would be good
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 03:37 PM
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And if it's just about benefiting yourself, then it's natural when men also want the other sex to lower their demands/improve themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:13 PM
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Those who sell something may want buyers to buy one's product even if they are to be more expensive and worse than other companies' product. When someone is selling something they may be looking for money while those buying something may be looking for the product. In sex and relationships, men and women may be looking for similar things, but the other must give more than what the other needs
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:04 PM
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It won't be completely fair because he doesn't get to choose whether he wants to be the buyer. Women find it easier to get interest from men than vice versa/when the woman is the product, it is easier for them to sell the product. You can think something is bad even if you don't want to be worse than others. You may not be able to change enough
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 02:01 PM
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Not all people need to work the same amount. Some people can get sex and relationship without having to do anything else to get it.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:53 PM
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And why would men settle for being involuntarily without sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:51 PM
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What a terrible comment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:44 PM
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What a terrible comment
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:44 PM
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So you think it would have been okay if the women had been told that when they were more dependent on the men? That these women should stop getting a man instead of improving the conditions for women
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:41 PM
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If relationships and sex are to be like a product you buy, then men should also be allowed to be buyers or sellers You should be able to understand with customers who want the prices to be lowered
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:39 PM
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In that case, few people would have thought dating was important. Women can complain about the men although dating would be voluntary
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/24 01:36 PM
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There is still a difference. That women usually have to spend less time finding a man they appreciate compared to men. It is more common that women can have husbands who have had many women in the past. Women don't just choose men based on who gives the most orgasm during sex. Other factors influence which in turn can cause the woman to choose a man who cares less about the woman's pleasure during sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:34 PM
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The fault must always lie with the men according to different women. Sex would not be a right, say many women, in that case they would not have given sex to these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:29 PM
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Of course, it's boring for women when they don't have an orgasm during sex. But one reason why different men are egoists when they have sex may be because men and women have to perform differently to get a sex partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:22 PM
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And how much work had to go into having sex with that man?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:19 PM
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Maybe it. Could be because women and men have different conditions and have to perform differently to get sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:18 PM
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And women should accept that sex is not a need for them and not a right even when they are disadvantaged. It is of course sad not to have an orgasm during sex, but this also applies to all other people who do not have an orgasm during sex for any other reason
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:09 PM
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Ok, but there's one thing I don't understand, why should it be a social problem when someone doesn't have an orgasm during sex, but it doesn't apply when someone doesn't have a sex partner?!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:05 PM
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Sex wouldn't be a need, say women otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:03 PM
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The point of the orgasm gap is probably to benefit women. All of a sudden now sex must be distributed fairly, wrong about gender equality and sex must be a need. Sex is not a human right should apply even when women are worse off when they have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/23 08:02 PM
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Because it can be difficult to have sex
/r/AllPillDebate08/05/23 04:08 PM
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Why even accuse them of being hypocrites?! Many people do not want it to be fair
/r/MensRights11/04/23 05:57 PM
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It is about many people taking a stand in favor of women. That it should be about the right to sex and women should have the right to decide, but it is not as much about men's right to choose when women have sex.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 10:26 AM
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Men are not required to have sex, but society revolves around sex and it can be considered bad if you don't have sex. It's not about sex being illegal and these men want to force others to have sex with them. It is society that is illogical
/r/MensRights30/08/22 10:24 AM
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