Tren_troll Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

Upvotes	Comment on	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
–	Modern feminism has caused damage to the healthy romantic dynamic between men and women. 🤦‍♂️	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/01/25 05:24 AM
–	A large portion of women are hypocrites when it comes to their dating preferences I think the issue here is that there are a LOT of women and preferences vary hugely between women. They don't. Women just like different kinds of Chads. Chad with a sports car, punk rock Chad, movie star Chad, country Chad, Chad Chad. All of these Chads are jacked and have lots of money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 02:49 PM
–	Is the ability of a man being able to fall in love with a woman based on her youth and beauty? Being hot does nothing if you are eating crap and binge drinking all day long.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 10:00 AM
–	Is the ability of a man being able to fall in love with a woman based on her youth and beauty? If you don't believe me, you can go on any subreddit where couples post their pics and there will be metric shit tons of couples where the lady is morbidly obese.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 09:49 AM
–	Is the ability of a man being able to fall in love with a woman based on her youth and beauty? Truly hot people are born, and the bulk of your character, personality and the way you approach intersexual dynamics is formed during puberty when literally nobody takes gym seriously, let alone grind it hard for aesthetics. This is some hardcore incel bullshit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 09:48 AM
–	Is the ability of a man being able to fall in love with a woman based on her youth and beauty? How so?	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 09:19 AM
–	Is the ability of a man being able to fall in love with a woman based on her youth and beauty? No, the ones with the biggest egos are the averages ones who think they are 10/10. Truly hot people at least have a work ethic because they go to the gym.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 08:24 AM
–	Is the ability of a man being able to fall in love with a woman based on her youth and beauty? AWALT. Might as well date the hot ones if they are all the same anyway.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 08:17 AM
–	Is the ability of a man being able to fall in love with a woman based on her youth and beauty? No, but there are plenty of dudes who would.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 06:22 AM
–	Is the ability of a man being able to fall in love with a woman based on her youth and beauty? You are describing the top 10% of men who only care about the top 10% of women and ignoring the other 90% of men who really will fall in love with any woman who's above the bottom 10% as long as she is nice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 05:57 AM
–	Is the ability of a man being able to fall in love with a woman based on her youth and beauty? If you aren't trying to date Chad, there is no "wall".	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 05:25 AM
–	Is the ability of a man being able to fall in love with a woman based on her youth and beauty? A man will fall in love with a woman just because she was nice to him. A lot of the red pill is geared towards helping men not become insufferable simps the moment they get even a little bit of attention from women. Even a morbidly obese chick can easily get a dude who will adore her.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 04:59 AM
4	CMV: it's wrong to track how often your wife denies you sex Not his problem anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 01:38 AM
-3	CMV: it's wrong to track how often your wife denies you sex Yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/01/25 01:38 AM
0	CMV: it's wrong to track how often your wife denies you sex No.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/24 07:28 PM
4	CMV: it's wrong to track how often your wife denies you sex I don't entirely disagree, but then it's also wrong for her to go snooping through his phone when he starts to look for sex elsewhere.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/24 05:58 PM
2	Men are not more honest when they lie to themselves. Of all the things to disagree with, you choose to go after something as self-evident as the idea that there are different degrees of asshattery.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/24 04:40 PM
4	Men are not more honest when they lie to themselves. 🤦‍♂️	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/24 01:36 PM
4	Men are not more honest when they lie to themselves. There are different degrees of asshattery. Talking shit online is not even close to being comparable to being an asshole in real life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/24 01:16 PM
7	Men are not more honest when they lie to themselves. Quote me where I define "nice" or "good" in my post.	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/24 01:06 PM
4	Men are not more honest when they lie to themselves. Then the infamous “Im a nice guy and gentleman”. but then gets very angry when its not rewarded with pussy and then goes on sexist rants about how women love being abused. This is not how any of this works. Talking shit online is one of the most harmless things you can do. Actually being an asshole towards someone in-person is completely different. Women regularly date assholes and then take all of their frustrations out by punching down on some random dudes who are complaining about being rejec…	/r/PurplePillDebate	31/12/24 01:00 PM
7	Male mental health and victim blaming Why in the absolute shit would anyone ever want to be vulnerable? If you identify a vulnerability in yourself, you fix it instead of making it a part of your identity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 09:21 PM
2	Male mental health and victim blaming Yes, going to the gym is awful. You should be repeatedly digging up past trauma in an attempt to "heal" instead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 09:06 PM
-2	Male mental health and victim blaming Yeah lots of whiners and posers who would rather moan all year long instead of going to the gym, I know.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 05:46 PM
1	Male mental health and victim blaming Common sense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 05:45 PM
-6	Male mental health and victim blaming On the contrary, this is exactly how you solve all of those problems. When you are lifting heavy, you realize that everything else is trivial bullshit that doesn't matter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 04:36 PM
-2	Male mental health and victim blaming The average dude sits on his ass all day long, eats crap and doesn't have a healthy sleep schedule, all of the things that cause testosterone to collapse. Don't need to be an expert when the problem is that obvious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 04:11 PM
-5	Male mental health and victim blaming Most dudes have a problem with chronically low testosterone levels and not enough physical activity. If you are lifting in the depths of hell like Dr. Mike Israetel, you don't have time for any of that emotional shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 04:06 PM
–	When it comes to how women experience “desire,” men have to accept that “carnal attraction” is MORE than “looks” That's standard alpha and beta stuff.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 03:36 PM
–	When it comes to how women experience “desire,” men have to accept that “carnal attraction” is MORE than “looks” use and discard them and hold them in contempt. That's what women do to pussy-whipped cucks lmao.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 03:33 PM
–	When it comes to how women experience “desire,” men have to accept that “carnal attraction” is MORE than “looks” It's a tale as old as time. Red pilled Chad finds his NAWALT unicorn and goes on to denounce the red pill. Other red pillers tell him to stop being a pussy-whipped cuck. Several months later he is red pilled again. The red pill only exists in the first place because men tend to idealize women to an unhealthy degree.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 02:09 PM
–	When it comes to how women experience “desire,” men have to accept that “carnal attraction” is MORE than “looks” Not really. Red pillers are just bullshitting each other to appear more macho. On the other hand blue pillers seem like they genuinely believe that men only care about looks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 01:51 PM
–	When it comes to how women experience “desire,” men have to accept that “carnal attraction” is MORE than “looks” Yea, they are saying that to appear cool and macho. No dude will ever admit that he is attracted to a woman because of her personality because it will make him look like a pussy, especially in manosphere spaces.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 01:30 PM
–	When it comes to how women experience “desire,” men have to accept that “carnal attraction” is MORE than “looks” When guys say a woman looks good, it seems to mean he is actively attracted to her. This is not the case for women. For most women, it’s not that we think people are “ugly” or “top ten face card models.” It’s simply that until something “sparks” we don’t… feel much of anything at all. It's the same for men. "Men only care about looks" is a blue pilled narrative that's being peddled by people who want to feel like their attraction is morally superior.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 01:25 PM
4	Do men prefer no makeup/surgery, and should women tell when they've had surgery? It depends on a case-by-case basis.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/12/24 01:05 PM
12	Why do men crave romantic interest so much? A romantic relationship is more than the sum of its parts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 07:13 PM
13	Why do men crave romantic interest so much? This post is bait.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 06:38 PM
0	TRP is basically mainstream and most men are waking up to reality, despite women claiming it is still some fringe minority of embittered rejects Obscure heavy metal band from the 90s that has like 1000 fans worldwide in total and they just so happen to be one but can't name a single song or even an album. Yea, no.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 03:42 PM
2	If you’re waiting 3 dates (or a month) to fuck someone, you would have been better off having a hookup and fucking immediately. Another day of women not just misunderstanding men, but maliciously misinterpreting everything in the worst way possible.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 02:20 PM
0	TRP is basically mainstream and most men are waking up to reality, despite women claiming it is still some fringe minority of embittered rejects I don't know and honestly I don't care to know. I just set my expectations that sometimes they are going to randomly lie about something.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 07:59 AM
-3	TRP is basically mainstream and most men are waking up to reality, despite women claiming it is still some fringe minority of embittered rejects Example: I was talking with a friend about diets and she claimed to like all of the same foods that I do but couldn't name a single brand. Had to quickly pivot away from that conversation because it was turning awkward as shit. Another example: another friend claimed to like all of the same bands that I do but couldn't name a single song. I've had this pattern repeat so many times that I don't even like talking about my interests anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 07:43 AM
3	TRP is basically mainstream and most men are waking up to reality, despite women claiming it is still some fringe minority of embittered rejects There are interesting differences in how they socialise in groups and discuss things, but TRP has no explanatory power beyond the trivial. One of the things that practically all women do is lie about petty, inconsequential shit. It's genuinely baffling when they lie about things that just don't matter and when you confront them about it, they either say that they were lying to "protect someone's feelings" or that they were "speaking their truth". And feminist narratives will tell you that you ar…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 07:22 AM
5	TRP is basically mainstream and most men are waking up to reality, despite women claiming it is still some fringe minority of embittered rejects It just so happens to be coupled to a fallacious and dehumanising view of “how women really are” And this is what I try to push back against. Men get red pilled by women, not other men. Most of red pill observations about women are really obvious as soon as you start to spend some time being friends with women. The red pill is just confirmation that they really are like that and you're not just going insane.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 07:04 AM
-1	TRP is basically mainstream and most men are waking up to reality, despite women claiming it is still some fringe minority of embittered rejects "Normal female behavior" is apparently resorting to slut-shaming as soon as someone is actually honest. 10 is not even that high but I guess anything over 1 or 2 is heretical because it goes against the feminist agenda.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 06:58 AM
3	TRP is basically mainstream and most men are waking up to reality, despite women claiming it is still some fringe minority of embittered rejects It's not a matter of belief. Most of my friends are women. My best friend is a woman. 10 is an extremely conservative estimate based on all the random shit they've told me about. Honestly, I couldn't care less if it's really 20, 30, 40 or even 100. It's the hypocrisy that annoys me. Women get mad because guys like looking at sexy women in video games and the occasional lesbian porn movie. Meanwhile most women behave in a way that would get a guy labeled as a sex addict.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 06:35 AM
-4	TRP is basically mainstream and most men are waking up to reality, despite women claiming it is still some fringe minority of embittered rejects Mayyyybe it’s 1-2 partners if even that. Try 10-20. They aren't "lying" per se because they genuinely believe that most of their sexual encounters don't count.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 05:37 AM
2	TRP is basically mainstream and most men are waking up to reality, despite women claiming it is still some fringe minority of embittered rejects The average woman who is sexually scribe has like 4 partners total between ages 18-45. That they admit. Then they have had several one night stands that "don't count". Also several FWBs that "don't count". Most of them have also had a lesbian phase that "doesn't count".	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 05:34 AM
-1	TRP is basically mainstream and most men are waking up to reality, despite women claiming it is still some fringe minority of embittered rejects I'm in the fitness community and still never heard of him. Way to tell on yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 05:31 AM
-1	TRP is basically mainstream and most men are waking up to reality, despite women claiming it is still some fringe minority of embittered rejects I understand that men are polygynous. The average women has metric shit tons of sexual partners compared to men. sex crazed Most of porn and other NSFW content is produced by women, such as NSFW stories on AO3, pornographic art on Tumblr and miscellaneous pornographic content on OnlyFans and social media. Women also watch a lot of porn and most of it is freaky hardcore shit. The global sex toy industry is propped up entirely by women. hypergamous lol vengeful Feminists don't even attempt to hide…	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 05:28 AM
1	TRP is basically mainstream and most men are waking up to reality, despite women claiming it is still some fringe minority of embittered rejects Whatever channel you just named is still a fringe minority. The most respected influencer in the fitness community is a fringe minority, lmao.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 05:19 AM
6	TRP is basically mainstream and most men are waking up to reality, despite women claiming it is still some fringe minority of embittered rejects The original red pill is a fringe minority, yes. But dudes who realize what's going on with dating and women are now in the majority. Channels with millions of subscribers like Renaissance Periodization regularly repeat red pill talking points despite having nothing to do with the original red pill. In the end, most of red pill is based on simple observations that anyone can make themselves. It doesn't require complicated theory.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/12/24 05:15 AM
13	It’s unhealthy for someone to never having someone else be romantically interested in them. The trouble is that for women, virtue signalling is more important than honesty. Few women will ever admit that a six pack is more important than personality so guys end up being completely clueless.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/24 06:57 PM
7	CMV: love is a weapon of the patriarchy As per usual, you gotta dig a little deeper when people come up with these bizarre takes to figure out what's really going on. Turns out that she likes various types of Chads and bad boys with issues. Chads predictably don't like doing household chores. A story as old as time. Also pretty sure she's yet another lesbian in denial.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/12/24 04:46 AM
0	"Things being done TO you by an assertive partner alleviates shame" vs "men want a bangmaid mommy fall into their laps". That's not what we are talking about though. When they start to insist on a particular dynamic and associate it with bizarre fantasies, that's the influence of porn.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 10:45 AM
0	"Things being done TO you by an assertive partner alleviates shame" vs "men want a bangmaid mommy fall into their laps". Pornographic fiction has existed since forever. Porn is not just about videos.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 10:36 AM
-1	"Things being done TO you by an assertive partner alleviates shame" vs "men want a bangmaid mommy fall into their laps". They are both addicted to porn. It's a well-established fact that consuming pornographic content cooks you to the bone. The reason why they like increasingly more bizarre categories of porn is both complex and simple. Complex because studying the underlying processes could be an entire field of science. Simple because we all know why anyway: they have been deep-fried by porn. You're better off just shrugging and moving on lest the porny demons get to you too.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 10:29 AM
–	If women are hypergamous, does this mean that social status is more important that everything else? Why are you looking at these things as mutually exclusive? They want a rich Chad. A poor Chad or a rich oofy doofy are just consolation prizes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 10:09 AM
–	If women are hypergamous, does this mean that social status is more important that everything else? Most women date and marry men of lower physical attractiveness. They settle for the oofy doofy beta provider because they can't get commitment from the alpha Chad. Hell, studies have shown that women are happier when they are with husbands less handsome than them. It's an attempt to make themselves feel better about not being able to get commitment from the alpha Chad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 10:05 AM
–	If women are hypergamous, does this mean that social status is more important that everything else? That's not quite it. They simply want you to be better than them. If you don't have the status, you can make up for it with looks. If you don't have the looks, you can make up for it with status. Personality is less important but can help to some extent	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 09:59 AM
2	Comparing how Women view Straight Men to how Straight Men view Gay Men is an Incorrect Comparison. This is so stupid. Muscles are an advantage only if you are alone in a dark forest but instead of a bear, a strange woman decides to attack you. In 99.9% of cases, you can't even raise your voice and tell a woman to back off because she's going to flip the script on you and say that you are the one who is harassing her. If you are in a bar and some strange woman decides to sexually harass you, your only defense is to run away. If you are at work and a female coworker decides to sexually harass y…	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/12/24 04:55 AM
6	Doing things for women makes them less attracted to you. The possibility that he might become interested at some point.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 06:03 PM
5	Do you agree or disagree with these widely debated Red Pill statements about women? We want to protect them. Foxes guarding the hen house lmao 😂	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 05:30 PM
4	Doing things for women makes them less attracted to you. Red pill basics. Women love drama. Having an awful personality and refusing to do household chores is an endless source of free drama.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 04:26 PM
0	Do you agree or disagree with these widely debated Red Pill statements about women? Fellas, prepare for a torrential downpour of red pills.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 04:19 PM
4	Doing things for women makes them less attracted to you. If anything, it works even better in an LTR because it keeps the excitement going even after the honeymoon phase is over.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 04:09 PM
-5	Doing things for women makes them less attracted to you. Not how this works. If anything, an awful personality is a bonus.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 04:04 PM
-4	Doing things for women makes them less attracted to you. If you forget to go to the gym, yes. As long as you stay hot, it works.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 03:58 PM
1	Doing things for women makes them less attracted to you. Sounds about right to me. If you're hot enough, she will tolerate you just playing video games and watching Netflix all day long.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 03:12 PM
4	"Husband" is a compliment. "Material" is objectification It sounds extremely unnatural and forced. Like someone tried to come up with an affectionate nickname but ran out of creativity.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 01:02 PM
2	"Husband" is a compliment. "Material" is objectification No way, addressing your husband as "husband" is beyond cringe. Introducing someone as your husband is ok though. Only "hubby" is worse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/12/24 12:48 PM
0	What's the point of 30+ women dating if their values already tanked in the dating market ? she will always be "less valuable" than a woman in her 20s with the same values. Do you know many women with those values? If you go to the gym and do actual strength and hypertrophy training instead of the typical TikTok influencer bullshit, you are already in the top 1%. If you add a hobby that's not just activism or Starbucks, you are in the top 0.1%. Add one more positive trait of your choice and you have practically no competition anymore. Women start with a high value in the dating market …	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 09:48 PM
-2	Men Should Use a Filtering System for Commitment Like Women Do for Sex That's why you don't commit. Date for fun but don't expect anything serious. If it's meant to be, it will work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 09:36 PM
2	Men Should Use a Filtering System for Commitment Like Women Do for Sex That's not exactly what the red pill says. "Unicorns" do exist but they are so incredibly rare that you are better off assuming that AWALT.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 09:33 PM
2	For those that believe many of men's problems would be solved by having more sex, how you would feel if it was only pity sex? The black pill is just a repackaged blue pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 08:42 PM
4	For those that believe many of men's problems would be solved by having more sex, how you would feel if it was only pity sex? These are not the same groups of men. Some men only want sex, others really do want companionship and emotional intimacy. The complaints about feeling lonely tend to come from the latter group.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 07:54 PM
2	For those that believe many of men's problems would be solved by having more sex, how you would feel if it was only pity sex? These are two different groups of dudes though. Yea there's a lot of red pillers who are scared of commitment but they are not going around and complaining about feeling lonely. The dudes who are complaining about feeling lonely tend to be disappointed blue pillers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 07:37 PM
4	Q4M: How would you react if you found out your wife had a child that she gave up for adoption before you two met? Sounds like there's going to be a lot of drama regardless of my reaction and I'm going to somehow be at fault anyway. I'm going to preemptively exile myself to the couch and do all of the cooking, cleaning and other household chores for a month and hope for the best.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 07:12 PM
23	For those that believe many of men's problems would be solved by having more sex, how you would feel if it was only pity sex? Who is actually making this argument? Most dudes who say that they are feeling lonely want companionship and emotional intimacy first and foremsot, not sex. I only see the "men literally want only one thing and it is disgusting" narrative from blue pillers.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 07:00 PM
–	What would you do if your gf lied to you about past? Rich of you to assume that I would care enough to remember who her tattoo artist was in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 03:22 PM
2	Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates. Supermodel doesn't necessarily mean super attractive, it means a good physique for modeling clothes. Most of these women are very average or slightly above average.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 02:18 PM
2	Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates. Such as?	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 01:49 PM
3	Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates. You can literally google several rich, successful dudes and see it for yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 01:41 PM
5	Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates. Most "trophy wives" are really, really average at best.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 01:25 PM
2	Seems like the women that men here actually want wont go 50/50 on dates. It's actually the average women who have massive egos and don't want to split the bill. Attractive women either split the bill or even just treat you to a date and pay for the entire thing themselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/12/24 11:25 AM
–	Are Feminists aware of the fact they would be degenerate failures if they were born male Bro you need to hold frame.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 07:17 PM
3	CMV: Wives should decenter their husbands and children So what? What does it matter what other people tell you? You know the teenage rebellion phase when kids figure out that adults are mostly bullshitting them? If you scroll through her TikTok page, it's blatantly obvious what's going on. She's struggling with alcoholism. She's struggling with ADHD. She has some bullshit drama with her in-laws. She needs a gym membership and a fitness coach, not more "decentering" or "unmeshing".	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 05:42 PM
5	CMV: Wives should decenter their husbands and children She's blaming society for telling her to focus on men (what the hell?) and her husband for her midlife crisis.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 05:25 PM
0	CMV: Wives should decenter their husbands and children Decentering is stupid as shit because you can't self-improve by reassigning blame to other people. Self-improvement is uncomfortable and requires discipline. Just saying "yeah none of it is my fault, it's other people who are to blame" is the opposite of that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 03:12 PM
3	Caring more about the gender of the person than the person‘s behavior is a form of sexism. It's still an important distinction to make because if you want to protect yourself from assholes, you need to be able to recognize asshole behaviors in both men and women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 02:58 PM
8	Caring more about the gender of the person than the person‘s behavior is a form of sexism. Since when did being an unlikable person has anything to do with gender? Asshole behaviors manifest differently in men and women.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 02:48 PM
6	Caring more about the gender of the person than the person‘s behavior is a form of sexism. Gender Differences in Personality Traits Across Cultures: Robust and Surprising Findings differences are replicated across cultures for both college-age and adult samples, and differences are broadly consistent with gender stereotypes: Women reported themselves to be higher in Neuroticism, Agreeableness, Warmth, and Openness to Feelings, whereas men were higher in Assertiveness and Openness to Ideas.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 02:46 PM
8	Caring more about the gender of the person than the person‘s behavior is a form of sexism. Women score higher in neuroticism and agreeableness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 02:25 PM
13	Caring more about the gender of the person than the person‘s behavior is a form of sexism. Some behaviors are correlated with gender. It's a feeling of "not this shit again" whenever something like that happens and people adamantly refuse to point out the obvious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 01:29 PM
–	How Women Have Devalued the Role of Boyfriend in Modern Dating Expecting real life to be like that highlight reel of casual fun times 24/7 is actually delusional. It's not delusional. In my experience, there are plenty of people who are able to either deal with whatever is causing them stress right away or come up with an action plan if the problem can't be solved immediately. That's it, no more stress. On the other hand you have people who want to milk the shit out of stress and won't give it a rest until it becomes everyone else's problem as well. Not all…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 08:40 AM
–	How Women Have Devalued the Role of Boyfriend in Modern Dating Do you have the exact same dynamic with your boss as you do your mom or children or neighbor? My boss signs my paychecks. The expectation here is that if you are not signing my paychecks, I'm not going to put up with any drama or anyone trying to cause me an additional headache. I ignore them until they leave me alone and go away. Don't get into LTRs and expect the exact kind of relationship as a casual one then. Refusing to acknowledge the differences doesn't make women unreasonable. I don't br…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 07:57 AM
–	How Women Have Devalued the Role of Boyfriend in Modern Dating My words meant what they meant They do, but they also have some interesting implications. When people are in the dating phase, they also have personal bullshit that they are dealing with but they at least make an attempt to prevent it from spilling over into their relationship. You don't go on a date and start roasting your boyfriend or girlfriend because your boss was mean to you earlier that day. In a committed relationship, women apparently think that it's ok to take out all of your frustrati…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 05:58 AM
–	How Women Have Devalued the Role of Boyfriend in Modern Dating Because life happens when you live together You mean: women conjure up needless drama. This is only a problem for the oofy doofy beta provider because he doesn't know how to hold frame and gets caught up in the drama instead of dodging it. The alpha Chad doesn't have this problem because he knows how to dodge drama.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 05:02 AM
–	How Women Have Devalued the Role of Boyfriend in Modern Dating This dynamic was already described by the red pill more than a decade ago. You're either the alpha Chad, or the oofy doofy beta provider.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/12/24 04:41 AM
0	Men treat men worse than women do How awful, men being in control of their emotions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 07:16 PM
4	Men treat men worse than women do There are absolutely no benefits to talking about your emotions with other people. Best case scenario you're just wasting your time. Worst case scenario you're giving them information that they can use against you in the future. On the other hand being able to deal with your emotions on your own is very practical and has a lot of benefits.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 06:55 PM
8	Men treat men worse than women do Improvise, adapt, overcome. Why keep doing things that make dating even harder than it already is?	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 06:41 PM
6	Men treat men worse than women do For a good reason, that shit destroys your chances of ever going on a date real quick.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 06:37 PM
7	Men treat men worse than women do I want to know how many dudes actually got a date by starting to cry on some chick's shoulder. This is hilarious.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 06:14 PM
7	The Anti-Woke is now just bigots and neckbeards. This is so stupid. People have always used art to create characters who are stronger, braver, more heroic and more beautiful than real humans. Using art to try to intentionally cram ugly characters down people's throats is activism, simple as. Also, you can't be bigoted against fictional characters because they are not real people. As far as I'm concerned, they can keep releasing flop after flop like Concord and Veilguard. It's extremely entertaining when they try to pander to the "modern audien…	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 03:02 PM
1	Can you honestly claim modern feminism is about equality, or is it just about power? Women's relationship with their weight is one of the weirdest rabbit holes. They randomly lie to each other about their weight. They also randomly lie to each other about how much exercise and dieting they really do. Of course metabolism seems like magic when there is a torrential downpour of bullshit round the clock. Nothing makes sense when everyone is lying to each other all the time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 02:36 PM
2	If Cinderella is the fairytale of a low SMV woman capturing a top 20% man. Then what is male equivalent fairytale for men's struggles? There's not a whole lot of examples because the typical male fantasy is about self-actualization and overcoming impossible odds. Romance and relationships only play a secondary role. Warhammer 40k is the male fantasy, not cheesy romcoms.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/12/24 07:09 AM
1	When it comes to fiction and knowing people, gooners are just as annoying as woke leftists. They will market whatever sells to their buying audience. So, attractive women. Congratulations, you played yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 09:37 PM
0	When it comes to fiction and knowing people, gooners are just as annoying as woke leftists. Btw, I suspect tampons would be effective at drying gamer tears. Tears of laughter as woke shit like Concord and Veilguard flops time and again maybe 😂 But yea I get it, women are mad as shit because they can't browbeat gamers into accepting all the usual feminist narratives.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 09:31 PM
0	When it comes to fiction and knowing people, gooners are just as annoying as woke leftists. If something is made by men for other men. You know what a target audience is, right?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 09:23 PM
-1	When it comes to fiction and knowing people, gooners are just as annoying as woke leftists. If something is made by men for other men, it is a male thing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 09:08 PM
2	When it comes to fiction and knowing people, gooners are just as annoying as woke leftists. That's beside the point. The writers went out of their way to retcon source material and change the entire tone of the story to turn it into a toxic lesbian romance.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 07:51 PM
4	When it comes to fiction and knowing people, gooners are just as annoying as woke leftists. Yea and on the other hand you have House of the Dragon being turned into an AO3-tier fanfic because the writers want to ship Rhaenyra with Alicent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 07:39 PM
8	When it comes to fiction and knowing people, gooners are just as annoying as woke leftists. They go on Twitter and argue with the writers until they make their preferred pairing canon, or they do it the hard way and get a job in the industry and change the entire tone of the work... and make their preferred pairing canon.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 07:16 PM
9	When it comes to fiction and knowing people, gooners are just as annoying as woke leftists. Funny how it's usually women who start shipping characters and writing NSFW fanfiction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 06:43 PM
10	When it comes to fiction and knowing people, gooners are just as annoying as woke leftists. That's not what happens. Guys are annoyed because women try to take over their hobbies, woke companies pander to them, then the women leave because they were never interested in those hobbies to begin with and the guys are left with a shit product because of idiot companies and their woke DEI consultants.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 06:28 PM
-2	Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violence “Body positivity” Body positivity resulted in an obesity epidemic, benefiting absolutely no one (unless you count the industries that profit from people being obese).	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 04:15 PM
1	Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violence You are the one who is trolling. One post you are complaining about dudes who don't do emotional shit, next post you are complaining about dudes who do emotional shit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 04:09 PM
-2	Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violence You mean: you hang out with dudes who are more like women and have time to do emotional shit instead of working and then are surprised when they act emotional?	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 04:05 PM
-2	Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violence Just goes to show how hilariously out of touch women are with what it's like for the average dude. Like bruh, we don't have time to do that emotional shit. We have work to do and there's only so many hours in a day.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 03:59 PM
-1	Society can actually fix dating. And this can happen voluntarily and does not require violence No, I think everyone should accept their own company and hug their friends. Regardless of if they have a partner or not. Being able to be comfortable in your own company and hug your friends is like the base point of being an independent adult. Seriously... what the hell? Being an adult is about going to work and paying your bills on time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 03:45 PM
2	Red Pill and Long Term Relationships If you lose all your money, you have maybe a year at the very best to get back on track before you get dumped. If you get fat, maybe more than a year but not a whole lot. Not paying attention to someone, on the other hand, is not a deal breaker. Your relationship will be worse than it could be but no one would give up financial security and an attractive partner that easily. Age is not really a factor since you can stay attractive well into your seventies and later if you take care of yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 02:00 PM
-1	Red Pill and Long Term Relationships It's not that they are irrelevant, but having money and staying attractive is more important. If she doesn't find you attractive anymore, she will roast you for not doing household chores and will make you sleep on the couch. If she finds you attractive, she will do the chores herself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 01:24 PM
–	Q4W: was there a point to feminism raising awareness about female beauty standards? This is so funny, it's basically a shit test by women for other women. If you buy into the "healthy at every size" campaign, you've failed the shit test.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 01:13 PM
-1	Red Pill and Long Term Relationships then it would sound like long-term relationships are doomed to failure because, well, you're going to end up sitting in silence a lot if personality, shared interests and basic human decentness are irrelevant factors. You're overestimating how much time people in LTRs spend talking. At the very most you talk about what happened at work at the end of the day and then go to sleep. Having money in the bank account is more important for a successful LTR.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 01:05 PM
2	The Red Pill is inhumane, ineffective, and in fact, self-defeating. You are misinterpreting agency in this context. It doesn't mean that you can't decided whether you want to watch Netflix or play video games today, you can do whatever you want and no one will care. Agency here means that if there is an important decision that has to be made, you will have to be the one to make it. It's not that your girlfriend or wife can't make a decision, it's simply that she doesn't want to. If you screw up, she will call you a loser and probably make you sleep on the couch …	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 10:06 AM
2	Why is it some men both simultaneously look down on women but also seem to want their approval for everything like we are their mommy? Not liking someone doesn't mean you dislike them. More often than not it's just apathy and disinterest.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/12/24 06:28 AM
0	Too many men use ‘being honest’ as an excuse to be bullies I just promise to do better next time and they think that they can fix me 🤷‍♂️	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 10:13 PM
1	Too many men use ‘being honest’ as an excuse to be bullies In my experience, buying flowers didn't work. But being a grade-A douchebag did.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 09:53 PM
-4	Women have a problem with logic. Like the red pill says, don't try to out-debate women. You can't. You just can't. Hold frame, fellas.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 08:41 PM
5	Progressivism has failed men by treating them as scapegoats rather than partners in the pursuit of equality There's an even quicker fix, start eating healthy and get some quality sleep. That's the first thing everyone should do before even reviewing the level of their daily physical activity. Once again, this is why the manosphere is popular among young men. They are the only ones who are willing to tell dudes to stop being pussies and start doing something with their hands instead of sitting on the couch with Netflix and a can of beer all day long.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 05:44 PM
11	Progressivism has failed men by treating them as scapegoats rather than partners in the pursuit of equality There's a very obvious reason why it's getting worse. Average testosterone levels have been declining across the board. I know it's currently considered cool to completely disregard human physiology and say that it's all in the head, but one's body has a massive impact on one's mind.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 05:32 PM
2	Progressivism has failed men by treating them as scapegoats rather than partners in the pursuit of equality You're way overcomplicating this. They think that men are being radicalized because to them, men are simply defective women. And hence completely normal male behaviors are seen as "radical". Andrew Tate appeals to young men because he doesn't mince his words. Stop being a pussy, take responsibility for yourself and work towards your goals. From the point of view of woke activists this is "radical" because according to their worldview, the only way to achieve your goals is by complaining until so…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 03:06 PM
7	How come feminsm treats men as having easy cushy lives when they are victims of the patriarchy too? Attraction is non-negotiable. They can talk about men being able to cry too, men being emotionally vulnerable, men being feminine and all that all they want, but at the end of the day they will still prefer the alpha Chad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 03:03 PM
3	Are you really "doing it for yourself"? Saying that you find it comfortable when you have shorts jammed up your arse crack is not the flex that you think it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 09:45 AM
2	Are you really "doing it for yourself"? When you are working out, the last thing you want is something jammed up your arse crack.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 09:29 AM
3	Are you really "doing it for yourself"? Booty shorts.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 09:13 AM
–	What is a nice guy anyway? It's just the just-world fallacy in action. They assume that if you can't get a date, then it must mean that you aren't really nice but rather just pretending to be. The opposite is the evil-world fallacy (I'm making this up). Guys assume that if someone can get a date, he must be an asshole. The truth is that there are some genuinely nice people out there who can't get a date. Also just venting your frustrations online doesn't make you an asshole. It's one of the most harmless things you can do…	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 08:35 AM
6	Are you really "doing it for yourself"? They will never admit it but it's 100% to improve their social standing by appearing to look better. Same reason as why they wear extremely uncomfortable-looking clothes to the gym. Bro, we aren't stupid. We know that it isn't comfortable so you might as well be honest about it. Use your common sense. If it looks like it's for external validation, it really is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 08:10 AM
-3	More men need to encourage women to wear makeup up less. they actually see painting on their own faces as a hobby. It can be used to express yourself artistically, sure. How women many use it artistically though? Most of the time they try to do "natural" makeup to fool other people into thinking that that's how they really look. That's the opposite of expressing yourself.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 04:58 AM
-3	More men need to encourage women to wear makeup up less. While it's true that women wear makeup for themselves It's simply not true at all. If it were true, they would wear makeup at home, which doesn't happen. They are addicted to virtue signalling and hence will never admit that they wear makeup to appear to look better and improve their social standing. It's baffling how many people still buy this excuse.	/r/PurplePillDebate	14/12/24 04:53 AM
-5	What are your standards for men for friendship? Sounds exhausting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 07:36 PM
0	What are your standards for men for friendship? It's just so crazy. Men will make friends with each other just because they happen to be in the same place doing the same thing. Women in this thread have requirements like it's a job interview.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 07:10 PM
–	Red Pill guys: What does the average guy look like to you? Togi is literally living the red pilled dream. Alex is now his best friend and so is red pilled by association.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 06:34 PM
–	Red Pill guys: What does the average guy look like to you? Togi, Alex Eubank, Sam Sulek.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 06:25 PM
0	What are your standards for men for friendship? Fellas, take note of the insane red pills being dropped all over the place in this thread.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 06:11 PM
1	Do you understand that you can't force women to lower their standard? Maybe AI assistants will solve the chores problem once and for all in a decade or two. We can only hope.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 05:21 PM
0	Do you understand that you can't force women to lower their standard? I'd get fed up too if I had to do household chores.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 05:19 PM
2	Do you understand that you can't force women to lower their standard? Not lazy, just selectively lazy!	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 04:58 PM
–	Women feel they don't need men despite needing men; Men feel they need women despite not needing women. Fellas, do yourselves a favor and watch how the The Island men vs women experiment went. This topic is such a slam dunk it hardly even qualifies as a debate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 04:27 PM
4	Nice guys are just assholes who felt obligated to be nice to get pussy. You're welcome 👍	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 03:32 PM
11	Nice guys are just assholes who felt obligated to be nice to get pussy. The guys who are struggling with loneliness are not the same group of people as assholes who are using every trick in the book to get ahead.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 02:54 PM
6	Nice guys are just assholes who felt obligated to be nice to get pussy. Being a good person—being a nice person—is “hard mode”. It absolutely is. Things that are generally seen as asshole behavior often give quick and tangible results.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 02:26 PM
3	Do you understand that you can't force women to lower their standard? That's the thing, you can find many such cases. I would count absolutely refusing to do household chores as an awful personality trait and yet you can find plenty of horror stories like that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 02:23 PM
13	Nice guys are just assholes who felt obligated to be nice to get pussy. Remember, being a good person should be seen as rewarding in itself. So being nice is essentially playing on hard mode since you are expected to be altruistic and prioritize others' well-being over your own interests, with no tangible benefit to yourself. It's hard enough out there as it is. I don't think that many people can afford this added challenge. If being a good person is helpful for society at large, being a good person should be incentivized.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 02:16 PM
8	Do you understand that you can't force women to lower their standard? If we go with this explanation, it means that these three things bring a disproportionate amount of added value to a relationship. You can have a tragically awful personality and it will still work. If security, money and looks can completely offset an awful personality, it means that personality doesn't really matter that much to begin with, which goes against some narratives around dating. So I agree, it isn't a gotcha if we assume that you can measure how much added value you bring to a relat…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 02:05 PM
25	Do you understand that you can't force women to lower their standard? This is the true origin of "the bar is in hell" adage. Yea of course you can't make someone change their standards, but their standards are so exclusive that they actually start to work to your advantage. Looks, money and status are non-negotiable. Everything else is. If you pass the bar for looks, money and status, the bar for other things really is in hell. Despite the constant whining, they will even tolerate you not doing any chores around the house.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 01:12 PM
4	Who has it rougher when it comes to dating women or men? And then the chores begin 🤷‍♂️	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 12:28 PM
–	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD At least they are trying. Trying is better than not trying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 12:09 PM
-2	Most people don’t understand what a ‘traditional relationship’ actually means I keep my things clean. If I accidentally spill a drink or drop some food, I immediately clean it up. If there are suddenly chores that have to be done... it's not my fault. I don't like chores so I don't let them pile up in the first place. If there are chores anyway, I'm just not doing them. Simple as.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 10:55 AM
-3	Most people don’t understand what a ‘traditional relationship’ actually means Fighting over household chores feels extremely petty to me. If they are going to be petty, I'm going to be petty as well and refuse to do it just because.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 10:48 AM
-9	Most people don’t understand what a ‘traditional relationship’ actually means It's a matter of principle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 10:41 AM
-7	Most people don’t understand what a ‘traditional relationship’ actually means It's baffling that people still think that household chores are a big deal with all the modern tools and appliances that are available.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 10:31 AM
–	Is it really a red flag as my 24th birthday is coming and I never had a girlfriend before? 63% of men under 30 are single and that number is only going to go up. You don't need to worry about it. Focus on building yourself up so that you can easily get dates anytime you want and then simply refuse to talk about your previous dating experience. They aren't obliged to tell them your life story.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 08:42 AM
1	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem and STILL (shocker, I know) find mental and emotional room for mutually beneficial relationships that go deeper than superficial 'bro culture'. Then you are obviously not taking it seriously enough.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 08:29 AM
3	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem Like I replied to the other poster, men get into weird self-destructive behaviors when they have chronically low testosterone. Which can result from a lack of physical activity, among other things. A man with a healthy level of testosterone can go without human connection for a very long time.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 05:10 AM
-1	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem You are describing the effects of chronically low testosterone, which happens when you have a crap diet, crap sleep, and, you guesses it, no physical activity. Men with healthy testosterone levels don't feel that way.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 05:07 AM
–	We can at least agree that that too many women are addicted to taking pictures at the expense of ruining a moment That's not quite it. They are addicted to carefully curating an image of themselves that they present to the world. For them, having a particular lifestyle is not nearly as important as making others believe that they have that lifestyle. This is why they can, for example, go to the gym to take pictures instead of actually lifting. Making their friends believe that they go to the gym is more important than actually going to the gym for results.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 04:27 AM
7	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem 🤷‍♂️ Lots of people do just fine focusing on solitary activities. Maybe people use human connection to escape from themselves not really having anything interesting going on in their life?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 04:19 AM
0	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem That's the neat part, men do just fine without bonding.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 04:16 AM
5	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem Did you seriously just compare lifting to drugs?	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 03:52 AM
2	Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One Woman People can change. Loving someone selflessly means that the power balance is in their favor and it's not going to end well for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 02:11 AM
-1	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem Yes. Believe it or not, lifting feels better than getting hugged. It also helps clear your head and make the right decision.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 02:07 AM
5	Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One Woman You shouldn’t love someone to be loved in return. You should love someone because you genuinely love them. "How to be the loser in every relationship with this one simple trick".	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 02:02 AM
8	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem The gym can't replace friendship and strong emotional bonds Yes it can. When you are pumping iron, it makes all of the other problems in your life seem trivial and not worth getting stressed over.	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 01:42 AM
10	Modern Dating Truths: Why Men Should Reconsider Loyalty and Investment in One Woman The problem is that while you are on the grindset, women are nowhere to be found. They only start to show up after you have already figured things out and achieved some measure of success. But by that point, entering a committed relationship with a woman has more downsides than upsides. Doing things on your own schedule? Forget it. Hobbies? You are screwed if you prioritize them over her. Ask her to contribute something to the relationship? You are also screwed. Instead, you get to deal with som…	/r/PurplePillDebate	13/12/24 01:40 AM
–	We need to dispel the myth that being attractive gives you some enormous advantage as a man, at the end of the day all it gets you is the interview but rarely the job If you need to rely on something other than your looks to get a date, then it's time to start asking yourself some hard questions.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 05:54 PM
–	As a Woman, If You Want a Man to Commit, Maybe Commit to Cooking and Cleaning I can move heavy objects really good.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 04:56 PM
–	As a Woman, If You Want a Man to Commit, Maybe Commit to Cooking and Cleaning Yes, that's a question I ask myself every day. What's the benefit to staying together over just dating casually?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 04:32 PM
–	As a Woman, If You Want a Man to Commit, Maybe Commit to Cooking and Cleaning Putting myself first has never prevented me from dating.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 04:21 PM
–	As a Woman, If You Want a Man to Commit, Maybe Commit to Cooking and Cleaning Not my problem. I'm looking out for my own interests, not those of other people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 04:11 PM
–	As a Woman, If You Want a Man to Commit, Maybe Commit to Cooking and Cleaning 🤷‍♂️ I don't know, I'm not a woman. My requirement is that there should be some kind of optimization and time-saving somewhere. If it's in fact more time-efficient to do household chores on your own, there's no reason to commit to a relationship.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 03:52 PM
–	As a Woman, If You Want a Man to Commit, Maybe Commit to Cooking and Cleaning As per usual, the women in this thread are assuming that all men are incompetent idiots who are incapable of cooking or cleaning on their own. If there's no tangible benefit to being in a relationship, there's no reason to commit to one. If I have to cook anyway, I'd rather do it for one person than two.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 03:44 PM
–	As a Woman, If You Want a Man to Commit, Maybe Commit to Cooking and Cleaning It's easier to cook and clean for one person than two. The question still stands.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 03:36 PM
–	As a Woman, If You Want a Man to Commit, Maybe Commit to Cooking and Cleaning If a man can cook and clean on his own, what is he even getting out of a relationship?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 03:24 PM
14	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem Encouraging them to go to the gym.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 03:23 PM
16	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem Pumping iron makes you objectively more attractive. Testosterone goes up and makes you less of a pushover and a doormat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 03:19 PM
16	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem We pump iron together.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 03:16 PM
9	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem They get stronger and can do muscle ups.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 03:12 PM
7	“The bar is on the floor” for the men women consider their dating pool, which is always men above them There is a limit to how much effort you can put in. If you are putting in 100% of your effort at work and in the gym, personal relationships take a backseat. Simple as.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 10:16 AM
1	Many Men Struggle in Dating because they are Not Very Interesting. Ehh, I don't know about this. It's kind of like women saying if no man wants me while I'm fat, then I shouldn't share my beauty with them after I lose weight. If women want you after you make something of yourself, then so be it. Women want what they want, if you worked hard to attain that, you may as well reap the rewards, no? I don't think that losing weight is that hard. Even if you are in an abjectly sorry shape, it doesn't take more than a year to get back on track. Being accomplished, or i…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 05:02 AM
3	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem I never said that it doesn't happen.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 03:56 AM
-1	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem And? Why should men care?	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 03:54 AM
0	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem I guess self-affirmations don't work then if women's self-esteem crumbles the moment someone is mean to them online.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 03:29 AM
29	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem We hit the gym and start pumping iron.	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 03:26 AM
5	in the US the women are wonderful effect is on steroids and this is part of the problem Interesting how despite the constant self-affirmation, therapy and "positive vibes at all costs" culture, women still hate themselves and have low self-esteem 🤔	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 03:24 AM
4	Many Men Struggle in Dating because they are Not Very Interesting. The problem with this logic is that by the time women start to find you interesting, you are no longer interested in them. What's the point in going on a date if you already have a satisfying lifestyle? I'd rather go to the gym and lift some weights with the lads or play a video game. Getting into an LTR would interfere with your hobbies and bring nothing but drama and extra chores. If no woman wants to be there for you while you are on the grindset and working to build a good lifestyle for your…	/r/PurplePillDebate	12/12/24 03:15 AM
–	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD TwoXChromosomes subreddit and fearmongering 👍	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 07:25 PM
2	Would you want to go back to life before the Sexual Revolution? Also no video games or streaming services. No thanks.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 07:01 PM
2	Guys in "female" occupations should lie about their job if they want to succeed in dating Just say that it was a prank, problem solved.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 05:59 PM
-2	Guys in "female" occupations should lie about their job if they want to succeed in dating Get several bros to cover for you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 04:41 PM
-4	Guys in "female" occupations should lie about their job if they want to succeed in dating You can still learn stuff about your partner, no one is stopping you.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 04:30 PM
-10	Guys in "female" occupations should lie about their job if they want to succeed in dating Don't get caught lying, simple as.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 04:14 PM
16	“The bar is on the floor” for the men women consider their dating pool, which is always men above them Men already have to put in a ton of work before they can even get a date. There's a limit to how much a person can work before growing apathetic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 02:44 PM
16	“The bar is on the floor” for the men women consider their dating pool, which is always men above them Most guys don't expect a relationship to be like work when they are getting into one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 02:18 PM
19	“The bar is on the floor” for the men women consider their dating pool, which is always men above them Apathy is the natural reaction to having to do a lot of work in order to be allowed to do even more work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 02:01 PM
19	“The bar is on the floor” for the men women consider their dating pool, which is always men above them It’s pretty common for men’s effort to nosedive once they’re in the relationship and comfortable. That's because the initial stage of dating is way harder for men. By the time you do get into an LTR, you are already suffering from massive burnout and it's only a matter of time until a general sense of apathy starts to set in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 01:56 PM
1	“The bar is on the floor” for the men women consider their dating pool, which is always men above them Across most activities, success is defined as being at the very least in the top 10%. I don't see any compelling reason why success in relationships should be defined any differently.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 01:27 PM
7	“The bar is on the floor” for the men women consider their dating pool, which is always men above them You can have a normal distribution where the average is crap.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 01:05 PM
–	“The bar is on the floor” for the men women consider their dating pool, which is always men above them They also don't bring nearly as much to the table as they think. You know that new adage that men are not competing against other men but rather women's peace of mind? Well, women are competing against Chad's ability to just casually go on dates whenever he wants to and bail as soon as it starts to take up too much of his time or the commitment talk comes up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 12:40 PM
11	“The bar is on the floor” for the men women consider their dating pool, which is always men above them Passing the bar is not the same as having a successful relationship. The oofy doofy beta provider eventually passes the bar, but he is not afforded the same treatment as the alpha Chad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	11/12/24 12:24 PM
–	Influencers like Andrew Tate isn't radicalizing young men, the dating and economic conditions and general misandry are I said it elsewhere, but it's worth repeating: despite the general misandry and DEI, affirmative action and woke politics, dudes are still finding ways to succeed. The woke activists absolutely hate this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 10:11 PM
-1	Women are indifferent to Most men Some salt, yes. But it's miles behind the salt mines in the comments section.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 07:56 PM
-8	Women are indifferent to Most men Hate random men, of course not. Hate men in general? Maybe. Women seem to absolutely hate the fact that even after decades of DEI, affirmative action and woke politics, men are still outperforming them across a variety of fields.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 07:38 PM
4	A large reason for men's dating struggles is simply the lopsided gender ratio within the dating pool. If you look up the stats, it's not sweet at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 06:24 PM
–	Influencers like Andrew Tate isn't radicalizing young men, the dating and economic conditions and general misandry are That's the neat part, dudes don't care about unrealistic body standards. Sam is on gear but he also has an insane work ethic.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 06:12 PM
2	A large reason for men's dating struggles is simply the lopsided gender ratio within the dating pool. It may be in favor of women, but their prospects are still looking bad. Their requirements for a dude to be considered suitable for an LTR are extremely high. But a dude who meets those requirements probably doesn't even want an LTR anymore because it's simply not worth the effort. So yea eventually they lower their requirements and the oofy doofy beta provider gets a chance. Everyone loses except for Chad.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 06:07 PM
1	A large reason for men's dating struggles is simply the lopsided gender ratio within the dating pool. Take those stats with a grain of salt. I won't go into detail why because if you know, you know. The real reason is hypergamy, everything else is secondary. Men have trouble dating because women only like Chad. Women have trouble dating because Chad doesn't have to commit. Simple as.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 05:55 PM
16	What is the dating experience like for an average man? "Just wait for the right one to come along" = how to obliterate your dating prospects with this one simple trick.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 05:50 PM
7	What is the dating experience like for an average man? You can't fire me, I quit!	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 05:48 PM
–	Influencers like Andrew Tate isn't radicalizing young men, the dating and economic conditions and general misandry are Most male influencers don't care about feminism in the slightest. They are too busy doing cool stuff.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 05:22 PM
–	Influencers like Andrew Tate isn't radicalizing young men, the dating and economic conditions and general misandry are There's very little actual data and a lot of scaremongering. It's the same crap as teachers and parents panicking about heavy metal and Dungeons and Dragons in the 80s. But instead they are now panicking because the algorithm put one of Andrew Tate's videos into someone's feed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 02:30 PM
–	Influencers like Andrew Tate isn't radicalizing young men, the dating and economic conditions and general misandry are Most dudes aren't watching Andrew Tate, he is just the big scary boogeyman for the woke activists. They can't even name any other influencers who are popular among young men because they don't actually give a crap. They just did the bare minimum research on the topic and called it a day. That said, if they did do some research, they would call all influencers who appeal to young men problematic anyway. Togi gambling and lifting? Problematic and probably alt-right. Alex Eubank talking about Chris…	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 01:58 PM
6	What is the dating experience like for an average man? Hypergamy in action 👍	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 01:20 PM
54	What is the dating experience like for an average man? More like you find out that the job doesn't really pay all that well so you match your effort to the compensation that you are getting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 09:03 AM
18	What is the dating experience like for an average man? I put a lot of time and effort into myself and people around me, I built up confidence, I take notice, I make sure people feel safe and comfortable around me. As I experience it(as a man), the bar for men is in hell. These two statements are contradictory.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 08:20 AM
53	What is the dating experience like for an average man? Slot machine simulator. Just keep pulling that lever, bro. Gambling is 0% luck, 100% dedication.	/r/PurplePillDebate	10/12/24 04:42 AM
–	Why do women compliment each other even when it's obvious the reality is different? Interesting site. Someone should do a deep dive because there's no way the numbers are right.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 08:52 PM
–	Why do women compliment each other even when it's obvious the reality is different? Yea, I don't buy it. In order to become obese, one would have to overeat by a huge margin for a significant period of time. It's a public health disaster and should be treated seriously instead of trying to protect people's feelings at the expense of their health.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 08:35 PM
–	Why do women compliment each other even when it's obvious the reality is different? You are misinterpreting what I said. What I meant is that if you look up videos that are made by male content creators and aimed at men, the message is generally "put down the damn fork, stop eating crap, stop making excuses and go to the gym". Reality checks are super effective.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 07:12 PM
–	Why do women compliment each other even when it's obvious the reality is different? This is an open discussion forum. It's just perplexing that it doesn't work.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 07:05 PM
–	Why do women compliment each other even when it's obvious the reality is different? Maybe it doesn't work for you, but it definitely works for men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 07:01 PM
–	Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media". Can you give an example of this? Anyone who disagrees with any part of the woke ideology is automatically branded a heretic. You're literally making things up. Body positivity / acceptance movement. Continuing to make things up. "Men can cry too" / be emotionally vulnerable. Still making things up. Plenty of male celebrities trying to normalize guys wearing dresses.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 03:05 PM
–	Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media". The entire woke ideology harms men. Silence your problematic inner voice and listen to the experts instead. Love your body just the way it is instead of going to the gym. Let everyone know about your insecurities and weakness so that they know exactly how to manipulate you. Wear women's clothing because you might as well at this point, masculinity doesn't exist as a concept anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 02:56 PM
–	Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media". The red pill is not an ideology. It's simply a dating strategy (although some would argue that it's not even a strategy but rather a description of relationship dynamics).	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 10:44 AM
–	Young men are turning to right wing and manosphere ideologies due to being shut down and treated terrible in mainstream/progressive spaces, not from being brainwashed by "Redpill gurus" or "right-wing media". I wouldn't equate the red pill with the right wing or the manosphere. Many red pillers just don't care about politics at all and consider the manosphere to be clowns, although there are left wing red pillers as well. Moving on to the point, I think that being red pilled is the default state for men. There isn't anything special to it. If you are critical of all the crap narratives that woke culture tries to cram down your throat, you are red pilled. At some point, these narratives go too far and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 10:09 AM
12	If you could get across any messaqge to the redpill community, what would that message be? So I did some research about the MensLib subreddit and it has big user overlaps with: trollxchromosomes, witchesvspatriarchy, breadtube, sapphoandherfriend, thegirlsurvivalguide. I don't think it's a subreddit for men at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 07:14 AM
4	If you could get across any messaqge to the redpill community, what would that message be? It's not a 5% difference, it's a 95% difference. The red pill is about taking responsibility for yourself. The black pill rejects personal responsibility and instead blames the entire world. That's a pretty fundamental difference.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 06:39 AM
4	If you could get across any messaqge to the redpill community, what would that message be? The black pill is a corruption of the red pill. There are some superficial similarities but ultimately the black pill is full of people who rejected the red pill. They can't go back to the blue pilled fantasy so instead they construct a different kind of fantasy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 06:27 AM
1	If you could get across any messaqge to the redpill community, what would that message be? It is practical. Getting rich and getting hot is something that someone can start working on almost immediately after reading that advice. As for the other things like playing various games and holding frame: these are the things that almost everyone does. Men, women, your employer, your friendly neighborhood milkman. Learning how to recognize when these games are being played and how to handle them is very rational, even if you don't like the games themselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 05:56 AM
5	If you could get across any messaqge to the redpill community, what would that message be? Those subreddits are good in theory, but some of the posts make it clear that the black pill has more in common with the blue pill than the red pill.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 05:17 AM
1	If you could get across any messaqge to the redpill community, what would that message be? That's the thing though, getting rich and getting hot works equally well with everyone. It's the blue pill that tries to focus on a specific niche. The red pill is all about universal appeal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	09/12/24 05:12 AM
–	The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies. 0.5-1 points if you have a crap diet, crap sleep and a crap program.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/24 04:09 PM
–	The best course of action for unattractive beta males is to utilize the sugar dating and passport bro strategies. A lot of unattractive beta males are in a position where they are well-educated, high-achieving, and very successful career-wise, but have been plagued by social and romantic failure throughout their entire life. Sounds like it's time to hit the gym and start lifting. I think the greatest hurdle in the way is to simply let go of the dream of true love. Here's the brutal truth: There is no such thing as true love coming from a woman; a woman will never be able to reciprocate the powerful, deep lo…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/24 04:03 PM
5	What can men genuinely expect from women in a relationship? You get a sense of fulfillment from building a relationship with someone. Like come on man, what is this? Read more red pill content.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/24 09:23 AM
2	Blue Pill "pandering" is a major problem that is overlooked. This is not true at all. All of the people who stand at the top of the social hierarchy are either rich, attractive, athletic or exceptionally skilled, or a combination of these traits. Someone's personal hierarchy where being vegan is important is irrelevant when the majority of people simply don't care about that.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/24 08:25 AM
-1	Blue Pill "pandering" is a major problem that is overlooked. Non red pill people always talk about personality, vulnerability, emotional availability and all that. You have to try very hard to get them to admit that money and looks are important.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/24 05:52 AM
0	Blue Pill "pandering" is a major problem that is overlooked. The blue pill makes a lot of suggestions but doesn't say anything about their effectiveness. The red pill tells you to stop wasting your time and focus on getting rich and getting hot.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/24 05:41 AM
3	Blue Pill "pandering" is a major problem that is overlooked. And hence the blue pill is just flat out wrong and because the premise is wrong, blue pill narratives also tend to be wrong. You don't need scientific studies to figure out that our society is hierarchical. It's basic common sense and is readily observable. It would be one thing if the blue pill offered an alternative approach to dating, but it doesn't. It's just a bunch of fantasy narratives that are disconnected from reality.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/12/24 05:00 AM
12	Do you think the idea of the 666 is the sole reason why you, or some men struggle to get dates or sex? It's not really about the ease of dating but rather the quality of the dating experience itself. An ambitious woman who takes care of herself and has plans for the future has no reason to date a dude who doesn't provide anything of value to her life, so you are already at a severe disadvantage if you have neither the looks nor the money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 07:40 PM
38	Do you think the idea of the 666 is the sole reason why you, or some men struggle to get dates or sex? The dating experience of the alpha Chad is completely different compared to that of the oofy doofy dork. Most guys want to date like the former, not the latter.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 06:58 PM
0	If you wont explain your perspective, you dont deserve to be understood. In control, no. Able to influence, yes. And like it or not, but that cult is already influencing your child's mind. Other adults have been talking to your child about gender. Are you fine with that?	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 03:36 PM
0	If you wont explain your perspective, you dont deserve to be understood. Being likable is subjective. Most guys are educated and have hobbies and yet they still struggle with dating. Being rich and hot isn't subjective and it automatically makes you likable anyway. All this "become an interesting person, get hobbies" advice is at best misleading and at worst just flat out gaslighting.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 02:54 PM
4	If you wont explain your perspective, you dont deserve to be understood. Become an interesting person. Get educated, get hobbies, learn about stuff that you want to talk about with other people. Then find a person who likes that stuff.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 02:45 PM
1	If you wont explain your perspective, you dont deserve to be understood. Agreed, your kid is doing great. So don't let the trans cult wreck your kid's life.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 02:37 PM
1	If you wont explain your perspective, you dont deserve to be understood. Then get your kid out of the cult.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 02:24 PM
6	If you wont explain your perspective, you dont deserve to be understood. That post had women immediately start disputing your advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 02:21 PM
1	Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men. Sounds extremely fair to me. A man has to add value to a woman's life in order for her to want to be in a relationship with him. If he has nothing to offer = no relationship since she would be happier on her own.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 01:23 PM
3	Women are generally stingy and have a really hard time sharing their resources with men. They are stingy when sharing resources with the oofy doofy beta provider. Once she earns more than him, there is nothing else he has to offer. If you are a Chad, she will happily let you play stay-at-home husband.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 01:13 PM
21	Bad boys are liked by women only because of their self-confidence I don't entirely agree. Bad boys are confident because they simply don't care about the things that nice guys care about. It's this "I don't give a damn" attitude that's actually attractive. Caring about something is seen as a weakness in modern culture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 08:46 AM
2	CMV: Women dropping out of the workforce to embrace the "soft life" is dangerous Sounds good to me. They have options. They can settle for a single rich dude who is willing to support several women (good for men). They can also lower their expectations and settle for dude who's not rich but is willing to put food on the table (also good for men). The men in the workforce get more bargaining power due to there being less competition (also good for men).	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 07:12 AM
3	CMV: Women dropping out of the workforce to embrace the "soft life" is dangerous Bro did u not read OPs post? The whole point of women quiting their jobs to embrace their soft girl era is so they can embrace a work free life while the boyfriend they have chooses to work to support them. How is a woman going to survive if she quits a job but has no one providing for her. Thats going to impact the economy and set it back. A man providing for a woman is whats required. You're not smart If she can get a rich boyfriend who is willing to provide for her, that's great. Good for her…	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 06:54 AM
1	CMV: Women dropping out of the workforce to embrace the "soft life" is dangerous mention the unemployed dudes, who arent even working That's the idea. More open vacancies = more employment opportunities for men. Thats also more taxes coming out of ppls pay, with less ppl in the workforce. Men make up most of the positive fiscal impact anyway. The deficit can be partially covered by previously unemployed men now working. Whats going to happen when it comes to hospitals? All those women Dr's, nurses, techs etc. What about in education? What about women in STEM? Easy, some men …	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 06:17 AM
4	CMV: Women dropping out of the workforce to embrace the "soft life" is dangerous I just looked up the stats and apparently something like 80% of paralegal jobs are held by women while 60% of lawyer jobs are held by men. I don't know what that says about your field but it sounds like it would be considered pink collar.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 05:46 AM
5	CMV: Women dropping out of the workforce to embrace the "soft life" is dangerous The economy would adjust just fine. There are plenty of dudes who are either unemployed or stuck in dead-end careers. Most infrastructure is maintained by dudes anyway. The only critical sectors that would take a hit are healthcare and education but they have been failing for a long time anyway so maybe a major shakeup is exactly what they need.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 05:17 AM
9	CMV: Women dropping out of the workforce to embrace the "soft life" is dangerous If all women suddenly dropped out of the workforce, men would be more than willing to pick up the slack. Actually, some industries probably wouldn't even notice anything at all. It would be good for men (more competitive wages) and bad for corporations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	07/12/24 04:12 AM
–	Me Too Has Been a Disaster for Feminism and Society Maybe the message would feel a little more meaningful if it didn't come from cushy universities and multibillion dollar corporations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 07:38 PM
–	Me Too Has Been a Disaster for Feminism and Society Men are not routinely targeted for harassment while just existing in public. And yet men make up the majority of victims of physical violence. You can argue all day about what people should or shouldn't do but it's not going to change the fact that there will always be assholes who will harass other people. "People shouldn't harass others by default" and then everyone clapped. What now though? Did all of the assholes suddenly repent and vow to never harass someone again?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 07:25 PM
–	Me Too Has Been a Disaster for Feminism and Society Yeah, that's not what woke culture actually does. It's all about activists trying to lecture people about their supposed privilege. When you end up on the receiving end of a lecture like that, that's woke culture being quite literally crammed down your throat.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 06:56 PM
–	Me Too Has Been a Disaster for Feminism and Society Yea, everyone can agree that we should all live in peace and harmony but that's not how the world works. It's just human nature that some people are going to act like assholes. If you are a man, you deal with harassment on your own. No one is going to help you and if you do ask for help, other people will most likely just make fun of you for not being able to handle it on your own. So you can either deal with harassment like men do, or you can make a political movement to help you. But in the ca…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 06:50 PM
–	Me Too Has Been a Disaster for Feminism and Society And they said "well, I would, but what's in it for me?" Acting like it should come with strings attached to have the same peace men have is psychopathic. As far as I can tell, you are trying to argue that men should care about feminism because... yea, I still don't get it. Your analogy is also a bit unusual because a book club isn't a political movement. Here's a more relevant example: the entire environmental lobby can't make any real headway because the people who hold the power to make real c…	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 06:28 PM
–	Me Too Has Been a Disaster for Feminism and Society Calling men psychopathic if they don't care is not going to make them care.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 06:15 PM
–	Me Too Has Been a Disaster for Feminism and Society Maybe if they didn't spend years trying to cram identity politics down everyone's throats, their party wouldn't be associated with things like DEI and the woke culture.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 06:10 PM
–	Me Too Has Been a Disaster for Feminism and Society If feminism doesn't care about men, why should men care about feminism?	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 06:03 PM
–	Me Too Has Been a Disaster for Feminism and Society The jig is up and mainstream culture is starting to reject DEI and woke politics. Enjoy the ride!	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 05:58 PM
–	Me Too Has Been a Disaster for Feminism and Society Feminism barely exists as a movement anymore. It has been completely hijacked by corporate feminism, which is a bunch of dudes in suits using women to deflect criticism for their crappy products. If women want feminism to be taken seriously again, they need to take it back from corporations.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 05:30 PM
-1	Instead of being desperate for a girlfriend, men should focus on bonding with friends. It's not. Testosterone levels have collapsed due to bad eating habits, bad sleeping habits and lack of physical activity. All the stuff you read online about men struggling with depression, lack of energy, feelings of loneliness, yea, those are all symptoms of low testosterone.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 05:19 PM
0	Instead of being desperate for a girlfriend, men should focus on bonding with friends. Men need to get their testosterone levels checked. If a dude is getting mopey and feeling lonely, that's a hormonal problem, not a social one.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 02:11 PM
–	Only acceptable response to when asked for paternity test is 'Yes Absolutely' At the point you are asking for a paternity test, there is no trust anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 10:02 AM
–	Only acceptable response to when asked for paternity test is 'Yes Absolutely' If you have to ask for a paternity test, trust is already broken and the relationship is as good as over.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 09:59 AM
22	Men should generally never take dating advice from women. Halo effect. A hot rich guy is automatically going to seem more outgoing and funny even if he's actually very awkward.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 08:43 AM
4	Men should generally never take dating advice from women. The easiest way to get dates as a dude is to be the kind of dude who doesn't need to do any approaching in the first place because women are the ones who try to ask him out. So... get rich and get hot. Don't need an entire essay about preferences, individualized approaches and nuance when "get rich and get hot" is the best and most efficient strategy in the vast majority of cases.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 05:15 AM
38	Men should generally never take dating advice from women. We already know the formula: get rich and get hot. But every time this topic comes up, women start denying it and talking about personality even though everyone knows that nice guys finish last.	/r/PurplePillDebate	06/12/24 04:56 AM
1	Why is there a disproportionate amount of vitriol toward female gym goers/content creators? Where did I say that it's a problem? Toxic behavior isn't necessarily an issue.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 09:57 PM
2	Why is there a disproportionate amount of vitriol toward female gym goers/content creators? Yea, but just because there's some toxicity it doesn't mean that men are a problem. Men can handle toxicity just fine.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 09:47 PM
8	Why is there a disproportionate amount of vitriol toward female gym goers/content creators? How are men a problem? Gyms are a traditionally male space. Men don't have an issue with gym culture. If women can't take the heat, they can open female-only gyms.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 09:30 PM
1	People who only know shallow people typically are shallow themselves. What I mean is that this kind of reasoning doesn't exactly work when someone can fake being good and sincere to attract genuinely good and sincere people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 08:04 PM
6	Why is there a disproportionate amount of vitriol toward female gym goers/content creators? Competitive atmosphere + steroids + people lying about their gear usage = there's going to be some beef and rude comments.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 07:48 PM
3	Why is there a disproportionate amount of vitriol toward female gym goers/content creators? Why not?	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 07:41 PM
3	Why is there a disproportionate amount of vitriol toward female gym goers/content creators? Even if they did, the average male gym bro wouldn't care. We already tell each other that we look like crap anyway.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 07:35 PM
17	Why is there a disproportionate amount of vitriol toward female gym goers/content creators? Yea just no. Spend 5 minutes looking up male gym culture and it's much more toxic. Togi corrupting Alex Eubank and getting him hooked on steroids and gambling. Mike Van Wyck assaulting Jeff Nippard over some beef. Endless natty vs. juice accusations. All of that is just the tip of the iceberg.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 07:28 PM
1	People who only know shallow people typically are shallow themselves. You can simply fake whatever personality traits you like in that case.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 07:22 PM
6	People who only know shallow people typically are shallow themselves. People in this thread have apparently never heard of the halo effect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 03:17 PM
1	People who only know shallow people typically are shallow themselves. It's no different from being liked because you are funny or rich or a good listener.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 03:03 PM
-2	People who only know shallow people typically are shallow themselves. It totally gets people love.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 03:00 PM
-2	People who only know shallow people typically are shallow themselves. People who like six packs are the majority.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 02:57 PM
-4	People who only know shallow people typically are shallow themselves. It isn't the easiest, but it is one of the easiest. The easiest being just having tons of money. Like the OP said in a different post "get rich and get hot".	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 02:10 PM
-6	People who only know shallow people typically are shallow themselves. Then your circles must be weird. Having a six pack is one of the most ancient and stable beauty standards. You can also common sense it and figure out that six pack means that you are healthy and strong and being healthy and strong is attractive. There is also some scientific evidence that this is really the case. So we have thousands of years of culture, common sense and science all agreeing that six packs are incredibly important if you want to date. Anecdotal evidence that there are some grou…	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 01:53 PM
5	People who only know shallow people typically are shallow themselves. People who value personality are shallow as well, just in a different way. It's pretty much just a way of saying that you don't like the generic Chad and prefer the funny Chad instead, or the mysterious and aloof Chad, or the hyperactive Chad, or the wholesome Chad, or the punk rock Chad and so on. There's thousands of various personality archetypes but people only like maybe a dozen at best.	/r/PurplePillDebate	05/12/24 01:12 PM
-1	Better way to view female "demands" Maybe you don't have them right now, but you still definitely have the potential to have them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/24 07:23 PM
–	is it better to love madonna and hate the wh... or to hate the madonna and love the wh...? I don't think you can be RP without believing those things. You absolutely can. The red pill does not require anything.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/24 03:46 PM
–	is it better to love madonna and hate the wh... or to hate the madonna and love the wh...? The red pill is not a belief system, it's a dating strategy. Red pill generalizations are only useful insofar as they help with dating. All the philosophizing was tacked on later and diluted what the red pill was meant to be in my opinion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/24 02:44 PM
–	is it better to love madonna and hate the wh... or to hate the madonna and love the wh...? It's yet another blue pilled fantasy. Most women are just normal and don't fall into either of those stereotypes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/24 01:07 PM
14	CMV: Males really struggle to be both nice AND exciting It's not that men struggle, it's more like the alpha Chad and the oofy doofy dork are two completely different people. If you get on the self-improvement grindset and get serious about lifting and climbing the corporate ladder, it will severely affect your ability to be nice. Increased testosterone levels just do that to you. If you hop on steroids, it will put all of the dark triad traits into overdrive. This is what women don't get. The oofy doofy dork who is also the alpha Chad might as well …	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/24 07:46 AM
-1	Men are held to a higher/more rigid standard of masculinity than women are for femininity. No. It's awesome because it means that the sky's the limit.	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/24 07:37 AM
-3	Men are held to a higher/more rigid standard of masculinity than women are for femininity. You are misinterpreting gender roles. Men are held to a higher standard because men are generally bigger and stronger than women and have significantly more testosterone. It's not unfair because nature has deemed it fit to make you capable of handling this higher standard. Being manly is actually quite chill and fun. Women on the other hand can literally create life (if they want to), which is amazing but extremely taxing on them. So women are not held to the same standard because they already h…	/r/PurplePillDebate	04/12/24 05:07 AM
1	Men becoming even better, as women suggest, won't solve much Yea, that's what I keep saying. The alpha Chad and the oofy doofy dork are two different people. Getting on the self-improvement grindset promotes a ton of Chad-like personality traits. I don't see why men should care or try to solve women's dating problems on a large scale. They are the customers and you are the business. Being a monopoly is good for business.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 06:03 PM
2	Men becoming even better, as women suggest, won't solve much Even if you set out the formula "get rich, get hot" in very simple terms, most guys will fight against it and refuse to follow it. You shouldn't care about what other men are doing. If anything, things will get even easier for red pillers because a lot of men are going to drop out of the dating game entirely as soon as AI girlfriends become available in the next 5-10 years. Stay on the grindset, fellas.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 05:31 PM
23	CMV: Starting out as platonic friends is a good strategy for a romantic relationship Maybe it works for women, but it's a horrible strategy for men. You have to try your luck over and over again and there's not enough time in the world to build friendships with all of the women you intend to try asking out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 04:17 PM
1	Men have to vote as a block because they can't rely on generosity of feminists. As an individual, you are never going to be able to influence politics. Unless you dedicate your entire life to earning billions and lobbying, your vote is negligible. What use is your single lever against hundreds of millions of other levers?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 01:57 PM
1	Men have to vote as a block because they can't rely on generosity of feminists. So men have grouped together and voted as a block, now what? Is the big guy in charge going to make things better for men? Maybe he will knock down your front door and give you a $1000000 stimulus check and a robot AI girlfriend? Men naturally create social hierarchies. Whoever you vote for is going to become the new alpha in charge while you will remain the beta. Alphas don't care about betas. Men's issues are individual and therefore have individual solutions. If you feel disenfranchised, get …	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 01:02 PM
0	Alot of guys here want women to be considerate to them but never desire to be considerate to women. Okay let's look at your example: guys crying and expecting women to be empathetic. This is also the result of a misunderstanding. Guys process their emotions through action rather than talking. If you are dealing with emotional distress as a guy, the correct response is to start doing something. Like a nature walk or lifting. Eventually emotional distress just goes away like it was never there to begin with and you think "Wow, that was stupid. Why was I upset about that in the first place?" Henc…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 11:03 AM
8	Alot of guys here want women to be considerate to them but never desire to be considerate to women. Not necessarily. Example: I have tried to explain to women how men process their emotions before and it didn't go over well. It's just too weird for them. I likewise hypothetically understand how women process their emotions but I don't get it, it's too weird for me. So that's at least one point of contention that has nothing to do with narcissism.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 10:39 AM
5	Alot of guys here want women to be considerate to them but never desire to be considerate to women. Counterpoint, even men don't care about men's emotions. So why should women care?	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 10:34 AM
4	Alot of guys here want women to be considerate to them but never desire to be considerate to women. Okay great, now we have established that you don't have to hate someone in order to complain about them. From here it's not a huge stretch to assume that men complain about women simply because they don't have the capacity to understand them rather than because they don't like them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 10:23 AM
4	Alot of guys here want women to be considerate to them but never desire to be considerate to women. It's not just this sub. Moaning and whining about your partner is a time-honored tradition.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 10:18 AM
14	Alot of guys here want women to be considerate to them but never desire to be considerate to women. I'm starting to believe that it's just flat out impossible for men and women to truly understand and empathize with each other. I think that people should get more comfortable with saying "yeah, I can't empathize with that". Mutual respect should be the goal, not understanding.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 10:05 AM
6	Do mind games work “better” than straightforward communication? I would start to hang out with my friends more and keep a busy schedule. Talk about all the awesome things that you did in a day that didn't involve him. Make it clear that lazy couch Netflix dates aren't happening anymore because you have more interesting things to do. If he wants to go on a date, he has to treat it like a date and make it worthwhile instead of just getting it by default.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 04:48 AM
4	Do mind games work “better” than straightforward communication? So imagine this: you are making good progress in your career. You are getting hotter every day because you have a good fitness routine and eat well. You are getting more skillful at your hobbies. In a situation like this, your guy has an innate understanding that you could, in fact, do better than him so he can't just get complacent and stop trying. So the red-pill-approved response would be to go hard on the self-improvement grind for a couple of months until your guy wakes the hell up and star…	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 03:37 AM
5	Do mind games work “better” than straightforward communication? The red pill promotes "passive" dread game, which can be summed up as staying your own person and continuously working on improving yourself. This keeps a relationship fresh and exciting without having to play games, pretend that you don't care or do any other cringe stuff.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 03:21 AM
7	Do mind games work “better” than straightforward communication? Example, no flowers or anything on Valentines Day. Be told I’m over communicating because he didn’t ask me what was bothering me. When asked what I want to eat, it’s now viewed as me taking over. This 100% sounds like he is making a clumsy attempt at the "dread" game. This is far beyond simply being lazy and forgetful.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 03:06 AM
10	Do mind games work “better” than straightforward communication? Don't play games, but know how to respond to them. If your guy is just ignoring your opinion and doing whatever he wants, he is already playing a game with you, whether you like it or not. He is essentially testing the waters to see how much he can get away with. So you either beat him at his own game or dump him. Dumping him is probably the safer option.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 02:55 AM
11	Do mind games work “better” than straightforward communication? The red pill talks a lot about this. Something like the "dread" game is super effective at keeping your partner interested in you. The partner who cares less having all the power in a relationship is pretty much common knowledge. My take on this is that people grow bored of relationships where everything is easy and straightforward and stop trying.	/r/PurplePillDebate	03/12/24 02:29 AM
2	How do you feel about the average person? I don't like these stats. I'm going to pretend like I didn't see them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 07:14 PM
–	If you feel women are boring, unappealing, and have wrong opinions, then just be happy single. Classic case: the friend zone. He could easily end up becoming the oofy doofy dork who has zero romantic chemistry.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 04:42 PM
–	If you feel women are boring, unappealing, and have wrong opinions, then just be happy single. These personality traits can absolutely enter into unfortunate combinations with other traits and make a man less appealing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 04:15 PM
–	If you feel women are boring, unappealing, and have wrong opinions, then just be happy single. Lots of women also like Draco Malfoy, but personally I think that trying to mimic him would be a terrible idea 🤣	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 04:03 PM
–	If you feel women are boring, unappealing, and have wrong opinions, then just be happy single. I feel like the takeaway here should be that guys should be made aware of the "get rich, get hot" thing a lot earlier, before they reach the "red pill rage" phase.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 03:47 PM
–	If you feel women are boring, unappealing, and have wrong opinions, then just be happy single. This is a terrible idea for a variety of reasons.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 03:43 PM
–	If you feel women are boring, unappealing, and have wrong opinions, then just be happy single. That happens because they are already getting mad and combative by that point. There's a term for it in the red pill community: "red pill rage". When someone lives in fantasy land and then gets confronted with reality, the five stages of grief are a very natural reaction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 03:36 PM
–	If you feel women are boring, unappealing, and have wrong opinions, then just be happy single. I just pulled up a random relationship advice thread. Here are some highly rated answers from women: Confidence, kindness, good sense of humor, and the ability to have a good conversation. Playfulness. Mainly personality. Jumping from that to "get rich and get hot" is like solving an obscure puzzle.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 03:24 PM
–	If you feel women are boring, unappealing, and have wrong opinions, then just be happy single. Get likable, get richer, get hotter. This is the red pill advice, yes. But it's not what usually gets parroted on those endless relationship advice threads.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 03:18 PM
–	If you feel women are boring, unappealing, and have wrong opinions, then just be happy single. Women: Too many guys put no effort into appealing. Thats why so many are alone. And then when the guys ask what they can do to be appealing, they get told a bunch of nonsense that makes them even less appealing. Guys in general like women (and not only romantically, but also as friends). Guys find women interesting. Guys value women's opinions. It's just this one topic (dating) that's absolutely insane and has contradictory messaging coming in from every direction.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 03:09 PM
0	It's beneficial for society when women experience negative consequences for choosing the wrong man You're ignoring male biology. As soon as a guy starts lifting, his testosterone level will start to increase and promote a more competitive mindset. From there it's a short road to dark triad traits. If he jumps on steroids, that's going to put all of the dark triad traits into overdrive almost immediately.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 08:03 AM
-1	It's beneficial for society when women experience negative consequences for choosing the wrong man What's the alternative? He didn't go to the gym and lift. He didn't follow a skincare routine. He didn't look up fashion advice. He just went to bed and woke up as Chad the next day?	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 07:53 AM
-2	It's beneficial for society when women experience negative consequences for choosing the wrong man He isn't just randomly attractive. He is attractive because he puts effort into being attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 07:43 AM
-7	It's beneficial for society when women experience negative consequences for choosing the wrong man Sure he could be an awful partner and a father, but Chad is virtually guaranteed to have one or more of the dark triad traits to some extent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 07:40 AM
-2	Why do single-moms volountarily struggle alone??? Can you explain why men should be held accountable? If a dude is not about that life, he can simply go out to buy some milk and never come back. Maybe he goes back to college to complete his studies. Or maybe he becomes a Formula One driver. In any case, he does not face any serious repercussions for just walking out.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 04:53 AM
7	Social media and dating - What exactly did changed? It exposed how people really are when they don't have to keep up the pretense of civility. As a result, people have become a lot more suspicious of each other.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 04:50 AM
0	Why do single-moms volountarily struggle alone??? They are being accountable, to themselves.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 04:20 AM
1	Why do single-moms volountarily struggle alone??? Formal education does not always translate into street smarts. People should never take others at face value unless they have proven to be trustworthy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 04:12 AM
-1	It's beneficial for society when women experience negative consequences for choosing the wrong man It doesn't encourage better decision making. Attraction is non-negotiable so the oofy doofy dork still has zero chance unless he is willing to accept being settled for. It's more like gambling. They will still keep chasing Chad no matter how many bad experience they have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	02/12/24 03:27 AM
58	How the internet destroyed dating The internet just exposed how people really are when they don't have to keep up the pretense of civility. It's a good thing. You have more information than ever and can take an informed approach to dating. It's only bad if you liked the blue pilled fantasy.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/24 03:13 PM
153	Calling men incels as a common insult is unproductive. They are not calling Elon Musk an incel because they actually believe that he's an incel. They are calling him an incel simply because that's the worst insult they can think of, betraying their lack of imagination. Before incel it was nerd... then nerds became cool.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/24 09:22 AM
1	What according to you is the real issue why so many men can't get dates/sex in this modern era You're missing my point - they aren't doing nothing. They are continuing to happily participate in male-centric hobbies and activities. Sure some become lethargic and fall into depression but most get over it eventually and get on with their lives. It's not as simple as "yeah, those guys are losers".	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/24 09:07 AM
2	What according to you is the real issue why so many men can't get dates/sex in this modern era Not the brag that you think it is.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/24 08:49 AM
1	What according to you is the real issue why so many men can't get dates/sex in this modern era Most of male hobbies are solitary or only garner interest from other guys...	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/24 08:41 AM
12	What according to you is the real issue why so many men can't get dates/sex in this modern era Lads, get ready to get red pilled.	/r/PurplePillDebate	01/12/24 08:17 AM
26	Dating apps are only useful for the top 5% of men looking to hookup with average looking women or vice versa. The apps are designed to fail for those looking for relationships. I don't know if this was your intention, but your interpretation is even bleaker 🤣	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/24 01:56 PM
11	Do you think males less attentive in relationships? No. Part of being attentive is the ability to discern between important information and noise. Hints and cues are generally not important so they get sorted into noise.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/24 01:54 PM
22	Do you think males less attentive in relationships? Less attentive = no. Less likely to pick up on obscure hints and cues = yes.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/24 01:45 PM
31	Dating apps are only useful for the top 5% of men looking to hookup with average looking women or vice versa. The apps are designed to fail for those looking for relationships. Link. "When looking at age and gender together, 63% of men under 30 describe themselves as single."	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/24 01:28 PM
101	Dating apps are only useful for the top 5% of men looking to hookup with average looking women or vice versa. The apps are designed to fail for those looking for relationships. I actually looked up the stats today and apparently most young men are not dating at all these days. So the article is wrong, real life dating is not back in fashion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/24 01:21 PM
8	Will you give up porn in order to have the best relationship possible with a woman? True red pillers don't watch porn anyway since it's a complete waste of time. That said, most of these anti-porn arguments are shaky and rely on too many assumptions. Most dudes don't start to view women or sex differently just because they have watched porn. Maybe you could have an argument that dudes who spend thousands on OnlyFans content creators have an unhealthy overall relationship with women but that's because they get deep into parasocial relationships and become completely blue pilled.	/r/PurplePillDebate	30/11/24 06:04 AM
1	The 4B movement is just female MGTOW. How many of Trump's cabinet picks are former Democrats? Not to mention the fact that Trump hasn't even read Project 2025.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/24 05:27 PM
3	The 4B movement is just female MGTOW. Trump is slightly to the right of center, the very definition of moderate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/24 05:11 PM
17	The 4B movement is just female MGTOW. Every subreddit has people posting utterly vile things. MGTOW was not unique in that respect.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/24 02:03 PM
23	The 4B movement is just female MGTOW. If MGTOW had made any serious attempts at recruiting, they wouldn't be virtually defunct nowadays. It was mostly a support group for newly divorced dudes who were occasionally bitter. Most of them either chilled out and really went their own ways after a while, or just got back into the dating game.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/24 01:16 PM
11	The 4B movement is just female MGTOW. You're overestimating how much bargaining power they actually have.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/24 01:03 PM
58	The 4B movement is just female MGTOW. The key difference is that MGTOW's motto was "We don't recruit, we just watch them arrive". On the other hand the 4B movement is being aggressively advertised on social media platforms. The 4B movement is an attempt at an ideology while MGTOW was simply a support group.	/r/PurplePillDebate	29/11/24 12:51 PM
0	Why does therapy fail men on a large scale and what alternatives are there? Not just WH40k. Every franchise is being turned into a cozy hugbox.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/24 06:48 PM
3	Why does therapy fail men on a large scale and what alternatives are there? Why focus on this sub? Most real life groups of friends have a mix of people in LTRs, people who play the dating game like pros and people who are chronically single.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/24 06:20 PM
1	Why does therapy fail men on a large scale and what alternatives are there? And yet that's how most real life groups of friends look.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/24 06:17 PM
3	Why does therapy fail men on a large scale and what alternatives are there? Those are not the same groups of people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/24 06:14 PM
1	Why does therapy fail men on a large scale and what alternatives are there? Happens when you repeatedly encourage someone to dig up past traumas and reaffirm them over and over again.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/24 06:06 PM
1	Why does therapy fail men on a large scale and what alternatives are there? Men are naturally action-oriented and are happy when they are doing things, not talking about them. Dealing with the source of distress instead of talking about it is the best option. After that, lifting, chopping firewood, eating lots of food, working on personal projects, gaming, reading, watching TV are all good options for emotional management. Men in general shouldn't buy into the "emotional vulnerability" and "men can cry too" narratives, they are not healthy for you. Being able to shrug o…	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/24 05:45 PM
0	Why do women reject a guy but act jealous and try to cockblock him when he tries to date other women? It's called pre-selection. Women care about what other women think so having a girlfriend immediately makes you more attractive to them.	/r/PurplePillDebate	28/11/24 05:19 AM
2	Guys here don’t prioritize personality or compatibility but will project their views onto women. So, what's an actual bad boy trait then?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 04:38 PM
1	Guys here don’t prioritize personality or compatibility but will project their views onto women. Self-assured, success-oriented, not risk-averse, muscular, self-centered, emotionally guarded etc.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 04:31 PM
8	Guys here don’t prioritize personality or compatibility but will project their views onto women. Sure, there's billions of women so there's probably a woman who doesn't like bad boys out there somewhere. But that's irrelevant for most guys. We have to deal with the realities of the dating market and not just the outliers. Every guy I know who is in a successful LTR has one or more traits of a bad boy. The guys who don't are struggling massively.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 03:55 PM
3	Guys here don’t prioritize personality or compatibility but will project their views onto women. So in the end you're still concerned about money.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 03:48 PM
9	Guys here don’t prioritize personality or compatibility but will project their views onto women. Where are all of these women who don't go for bad boys?	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 03:45 PM
3	Guys here don’t prioritize personality or compatibility but will project their views onto women. That's the neat part, it attracts all kinds of women. Figuring out whether she is into you or just your money is not hard at all.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 03:42 PM
-1	Guys here don’t prioritize personality or compatibility but will project their views onto women. That's because it's the quickest way to get a date. Money has universal appeal.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 03:34 PM
24	What are your thoughts on why men aren’t attending singles events? If you can't do well on a dating app, you won't do well with speed dating either. You need muscles and money. Once you pass the bar, you will start to get loads of interest and can just be as picky as you want. No need for gimmicky events.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 02:15 PM
-5	Feminists and TBP are addicted to victimhood because victimhood is power The red pill is all about looking at the world objectively so no, it's not a delusion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 09:56 AM
-3	Feminists and TBP are addicted to victimhood because victimhood is power They can claim to be whatever they want to but it doesn't change the fact that they are firmly immersed in the blue pill fantasy. Red pillers know that men are valued for what they can do rather than who they are and act accordingly. It's blue pillers who buy into all the feel good narratives only to then realize that in the real world, no one cares.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 09:41 AM
0	Feminists and TBP are addicted to victimhood because victimhood is power The loneliness epidemic is a blue pilled narrative so this is in line with the OP's assertion.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 09:10 AM
5	Feminists and TBP are addicted to victimhood because victimhood is power The 2XC subreddit is literally a cult and even uses cult-like tactics like encouraging their subscribers to burn all bridges with their real life family and friends.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 07:09 AM
3	Extension du Domaine de la lutte They couldn't afford the product anyway.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 06:41 AM
-2	Extension du Domaine de la lutte If they are checking out, they were not worth dating in the first place.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 06:35 AM
1	Extension du Domaine de la lutte Everyone? Not really, no. But it's not worth it trying to appeal to the 1% when you could be appealing to the other 99%. Basic economics.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 06:29 AM
2	Extension du Domaine de la lutte Revealed vs. stated preferences.	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/11/24 06:24 AM
3	Q4W: Why do you only swipe right on the minority of men? There are dozens of "chadfishing" experiments showing that this is exactly what you should do.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 10:17 PM
-1	Q4W: Why do you only swipe right on the minority of men? Fellas, don't be misled by the replies here. You just need a couple of shirtless gym mirror selfies and one photo showing off your bling. A picture is worth a thousand words.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 09:44 PM
-2	Q4W: Why do you only swipe right on the minority of men? Everyone who is even slightly red pilled knows that it's all about fitness, money and social status.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 09:28 PM
35	CMV: The problem with dating is that women's standards are too low Lesbians have even more trouble dating so it appears as if women aren't even meeting their own supposedly low standards.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 05:48 PM
9	Women would become less picky if men increased their parental investment How is energy being defined and measured in this case though? Calories expended?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 05:41 PM
10	Women would become less picky if men increased their parental investment How would you even measure parental investment? Do we have any data supporting the hypothesis that men are less invested?	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 05:31 PM
–	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Any non-Reddit lesbian forums would do I guess. There were some subreddits a couple of years back but they got banned. You can look up the lesbiangang subreddit but it's extremely tame compared to some of the older ones. Even so you can find a ton of complaints about women playing games, leading them on, using them to get free stuff etc. Plus they have to deal with straight women pretending to be lesbians as well.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 12:58 PM
–	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD It's practically identical to the red pill in every way except it sounds even harsher.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 11:29 AM
–	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Common sense is also a good source of advice. Things like working on your fitness, career and social status is very basic stuff that you can deduce even without any prior dating experience. Although lately there has been more scientific interest in this topic and the findings seem to align with what the red pill has been saying for years.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 10:23 AM
–	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Lesbians give good relationship advice for men but there's a catch. It's extremely red pilled to the point that it makes the actual red pill seem blue pilled.	/r/PurplePillDebate	26/11/24 10:17 AM
–	Why do men show up smelling bad on dates? It's not an "all men" issue, it's a "why do Redditors date men who smell bad?" issue. There's plenty of men who take care of themselves and show up in well-fitted suits to date night.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/24 06:18 PM
–	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD Most bodybuilders would be classified as overweight.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/24 05:01 PM
0	How to make a man feel masculine in a relationship? How are those posts contradictory? In one post I listed some manly activities that make dudes happy, in that last post I said that every dude has his own path towards manliness. I don't see any inconsistencies.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/24 04:51 PM
–	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD we’ve had like 4 bottles of wine at this point	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/24 04:45 PM
–	THIS WILL ALWAYS♾️ BE🐝: POSTS📮 WITH AFFIRMATIVE✅ CLAIMS GET MARKED WITH "DEBATE"🗣️ POST FLAIR DAILY🌞 MEGATHREAD That subreddit is a cult, and not the cool kind of cult.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/24 04:42 PM
1	How to make a man feel masculine in a relationship? Why do you think that it's a performance?	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/24 04:30 PM
0	How to make a man feel masculine in a relationship? Nothing wrong with manning up.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/24 04:21 PM
1	How to make a man feel masculine in a relationship? A bit of a lame answer but: you can't. A man's manliness is about his inner state of being. Society and culture give some clues and ideas about what manliness may be, but ultimately every man has to decide what it means for himself. It's not about other people.	/r/PurplePillDebate	25/11/24 02:24 PM
10	Communication is detrimental to a romantic relationship.. I wouldn't say that. A successful relationship is more than just the "spark". You also need to manage a shared household and finances and communication is absolutely essential for that. I also wouldn't say that you need conflict in order to keep a relationship exciting. You don't need huge verbal disagreements and shouting matches. Just don't be a complete doormat, offer some pushback instead of just agreeing all the time and don't get lazy or complacent.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/24 03:21 PM
5	The Privileged Are Subsidized by the Suffering of the Disadvantaged They are frustrated because they are not in touch with their manliness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/24 03:14 PM
34	The Privileged Are Subsidized by the Suffering of the Disadvantaged Why would you want women to date men whom they don't find attractive? That's not very manly at all, basically admitting failure. Most heterosexual men want to date women because they like women, not just what women can do for them. And yes, it's supposed to be challenging. It's just how things are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/24 03:09 PM
12	Is it sexist to claim "you should be able to read others minds"? Why can't they just articulate their needs though?	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/24 02:46 PM
–	The discourse around male romantic loneliness is utterly ridiculous Some men really aren't helping their case though. You regularly have even red pilled dudes saying some very blue pilled things and reinforcing every negative stereotype about themselves. Men need to embrace the fact that dating for success can be very challenging. You can't change it, it's just how things are.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/24 11:59 AM
-1	Social media is putting a spotlight on "trad" culture, which is horrifying for everyone Trad "red pill" is anything but red pilled. It's a joke at this point that red pillers have to be constantly reminded that the red pill is a dating strategy, not a movement or an ideology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/24 08:47 AM
2	Social media is putting a spotlight on "trad" culture, which is horrifying for everyone Cut him some slack, he wants to eat the "traditional way" while most people were severely malnourished for most of history. If you want to accomplish impressive feats of strength, you have to pound protein shakes and eat over 5000 calories a day. "Unhealthy" and "processed" foods are the only feasible way of getting so many calories in.	/r/PurplePillDebate	24/11/24 08:35 AM
–	The Zeitgeist of the 21st century is Socially and Economically Oppressive to Young Men. I'm late to the party since I only started to notice it in the late 2010s. But in general, I think that calmer emotions like mild contentment, bored indifference or slight discomfort should be normalized again. It seems to me that wild swings between extreme emotional states is what is actually harmful to mental health rather than what people like to call "burying your emotions" or being emotionally repressed.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/24 09:41 PM
–	The Zeitgeist of the 21st century is Socially and Economically Oppressive to Young Men. In my opinion, modern culture is placing too much of an emphasis on talk instead of action. Every silly feeling is validated and people are encouraged to just sit around and wallow for years and years instead of taking concrete steps to improve their situation. If you take a look at various meditative practices, the goal is always to acknowledge your feelings but also realize that they are silly and not worth stressing about. Trying to constantly dig up and analyze past trauma is the opposite of…	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/24 08:49 PM
–	The Zeitgeist of the 21st century is Socially and Economically Oppressive to Young Men. There is an identity crisis among young men because activities that have traditionally allowed men to connect with their manliness have been replaced by a completely sedentary lifestyle. When you are moving heavy objects, chopping firewood, working on personal projects and eating lots of food, you don't need any of that emotional vulnerability nonsense.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/24 08:39 PM
–	Are society brainwashing men into slavery? Crying is not seen as manly because it simply isn't. The path to happiness as a man is doing manly stuff like lifting, chopping firewood, working on personal projects, playing video games, watching movies and eating lots of food. If anything, modern culture is trying to convince men that they ought to be emotionally vulnerable and have ugly crying sessions with the lads.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/24 08:30 PM
14	Being in Hookup Culture Is The Norm for Single Women, But Not For Men The red pill has become synonymous with other movements that have nothing to do with it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	23/11/24 01:45 PM
3	If women/feminists are the reason dating is so difficult, why are gay men also struggling with dating? I don't think that football fans care all that much about manliness. It's more about rooting for your favorite team, which is gender-neutral in my opinion. Other sports like bodybuilding that are all about being manly have completely fallen out of the mainstream. I don't think anyone even knows who this year's Mr. Olympia is. As for TV shows, it has become very common to have a female protagonist even in male-focused genres and franchises.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 07:16 PM
2	If women/feminists are the reason dating is so difficult, why are gay men also struggling with dating? Right, so it seems odd to claim that everybody insists on hyper masculinity when we have a clear example that shows people want different things. Saying that people want different things is a bit misleading. It's more accurate to say that they want different subtypes of the same thing. Bears, twinks, it doesn't matter. In the end, they still want a man who is capable and self-sufficient. but I'm confused how men are being prevented from doing these nor is it clear how feminists fit in. They are …	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 06:40 PM
1	If women/feminists are the reason dating is so difficult, why are gay men also struggling with dating? One of the complaints in the linked post is that some gay men complain that other men are too masculine. And another complaint is that all the gay bros want the "unrealistic masculine guy". What I mean by manly activities is stuff like playing sports, lifting, chopping firewood, building and repairing things, helping your local community, drinking beer with the lads and having a good career. Sure you can do all of these things if you go out of your way, but most dudes are simply staying home and…	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 06:15 PM
–	I think that, talking in simple terms, most of the dating problems can be explained by: men tend to want women more than women want men, and men are also on average hornier. There are many ways to be manly, but I guess the most typical example is a bad boy who eventually mellows out. So a dude who is dependable and family-oriented but retains just enough of his bad boy qualities to remain attractive.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 06:05 PM
2	If women/feminists are the reason dating is so difficult, why are gay men also struggling with dating? See my other answer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 05:50 PM
1	If women/feminists are the reason dating is so difficult, why are gay men also struggling with dating? See my other answer.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 05:50 PM
1	If women/feminists are the reason dating is so difficult, why are gay men also struggling with dating? The current assumption is that we are culturally enlightened and free of various gender-based norms and expectations. Which is not true for men. Men who are not manly are viewed as ridiculous by practically everyone. At the same time, most activities that have previously let men connect with their manliness are gone and replaced with a completely sedentary lifestyle. As a result, lots of men are appealing neither to women nor gay men.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 05:43 PM
–	I think that, talking in simple terms, most of the dating problems can be explained by: men tend to want women more than women want men, and men are also on average hornier. No, I'm hinting at the lost art of manliness.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 05:31 PM
1	If women/feminists are the reason dating is so difficult, why are gay men also struggling with dating? Because there is an identity crisis as to what it means to be a man in the current cultural landscape.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 05:24 PM
–	I think that, talking in simple terms, most of the dating problems can be explained by: men tend to want women more than women want men, and men are also on average hornier. My impression is that a lot of men simply don't know how to be appealing to women anymore.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 05:15 PM
1	Having a partial facade a good courting strategy for men, even if it annoys women who value authenticity The red pill does not promote hatred or misogyny. It's simply a dating strategy, not an ideology. There are certain other movements that have latched onto the red pill but they actually have nothing to do with it. True red pillers laugh at them and move on.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 02:13 PM
1	Having a partial facade a good courting strategy for men, even if it annoys women who value authenticity The red pill is all about universal common sense advice.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 02:05 PM
1	Having a partial facade a good courting strategy for men, even if it annoys women who value authenticity Pretty much the entirety of the married red pill subreddit is about this.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 02:02 PM
–	Men go for the top 10% and not women. It's projection. Yes, they were "average looking" because the women in the study rated practically no man as above average.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 01:36 PM
2	Having a partial facade a good courting strategy for men, even if it annoys women who value authenticity It's a smart way to live.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 01:23 PM
3	Having a partial facade a good courting strategy for men, even if it annoys women who value authenticity That's why one of the most important lessons of the red pill is that you never get complacent or start taking the relationship for granted.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 09:38 AM
5	Having a partial facade a good courting strategy for men, even if it annoys women who value authenticity There are no benefits to being your authentic self (unless your authentic self is really awesome, which is rather rare). On the contrary, there's a lot of benefits to being the version of yourself that other people like. It only becomes a problem if you get lazy about it.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 08:23 AM
1	Having a partial facade a good courting strategy for men, even if it annoys women who value authenticity It's better to stop viewing it as a facade and simply consider it to be a different version of yourself. It's also better to stop viewing it as some super hard and mentally draining skill. If you can present a better version of yourself at work for most of the day, you can surely continue to do so at home as well. It's even better to reframe it completely as simply keeping your personality quirks and flaws in check rather than putting up a facade.	/r/PurplePillDebate	22/11/24 04:52 AM
-1	A bunch of questions Most of these answers aren't really red pilled. They are red-pill-adjacent, yes, but a truly red pilled answer to all of them would be "this is none of my concern". It's a dating strategy, not a science or an ideology.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/24 09:06 PM
0	Hypergamy is not bad, we shoudl embrace it. Why does it matter? It's just an attempt to rationalize why working on your fitness, career and social status is the correct strategy. The goal of the red pill is to get guys started on their journey of self-improvement. The sales pitch is not that important. If the assumptions are right and the strategy works, it's good. If the assumptions are wrong but the strategy works, it's still good.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/24 05:32 PM
1	Hypergamy is not bad, we shoudl embrace it. Sometimes you need an external push to start doing something. There's nothing wrong with having superficial motivation when you are just picking up a new activity or making a lifestyle change. If you enjoy it, you will stick with it in the long run.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/24 05:04 PM
0	Hypergamy is not bad, we shoudl embrace it. It's not pretending. Working on your fitness, career and social status doesn't fundamentally change who you are. It's more like character development.	/r/PurplePillDebate	21/11/24 04:56 PM
0	If a man's only interest is having sex, why do some insist on treating a lady to date, hoping to get it? Come on now. "I can fix him" is a meme for a reason. It's not a generalization. Most women really do find bad boys appealing.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 06:22 AM
1	If a man's only interest is having sex, why do some insist on treating a lady to date, hoping to get it? Most guys want to get to know a woman at least a little bit before getting intimate.	/r/PurplePillDebate	20/11/24 05:55 AM