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| 47 | The Breakdown of Male / Female Relationships | TriGuy99 | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/08/19 04:28 PM | |
| 24 | The breakdown of male / female relationships… | TriGuy99 | /r/MGTOW | 05/08/19 07:08 PM | |
| 16 | Circumcision- evidence that it’s harmful... | Intactivism | TriGuy99 | /r/MensRights | 04/09/19 02:47 PM |
| 9 | America’s sex recession could lead to an economic depression | TriGuy99 | /r/MGTOW2 | 31/10/19 06:35 PM | |
| 2 | The Beta Male Economy... | TriGuy99 | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 06:39 PM |
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| 1 | "...it's like the whole world could cease to exist, and you wouldn't care...."In heaven, sitting at the right hand of God. | /r/MGTOW2 | 15/11/19 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Would you feel guilty if you made a lot of money off something stupid?I would not sell stuff that you don't believe in. If you believe it's a scam then don't do it. | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/10/19 10:53 PM |
| 1 | Does anyone know why MGTOW bans people without any explanation?Every forum in reddit bans people without explanation. Here's the explanation: You said something they strongly disagree with. This isn't a court of law, it's not a place for fairness. They can do whatever they want with no recourse. I have been banned for telling BlackPeopleTwitter some conservative or red pill stance. I was banned from intermittent fasting also for telling a girl that she looked better before she went from normal weight to closer to anorexic. Basically, if they don't like what… | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/10/19 10:52 PM |
| 1 | Is there a time when you should help women?These are stupid extremes. You should help women just like you would help me. Help others independent and blind of their sex. Yes, it’s Stupid to help women expecting to get sex from them. Help others because it’s the right thing to do. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/10/19 08:47 PM |
| 2 | Watch it before it gets deleted. I'm pretty sure it will soon....Good to mix in some racial topics and ethnic cleansing into MGTOW! A great work! | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/10/19 08:08 PM |
| 1 | MGTOW vs MRA, and my personal take on the institution of marriage.Good post | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/10/19 04:22 AM |
| 1 | Im seriously considering un subbing to r/MGTOW. Convince me not to.you should | /r/MGTOW2 | 29/09/19 07:26 PM |
| 1 | How do you fill the void you get, when you are in bed alone .Find community. Doesn’t have to be a woman you have sex with. | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/09/19 03:16 PM |
| 1 | Men were made to be strong and fight....and other stuff. (LIFT)I lift. It’s not for everyone. There is no cookie cutter masculinity. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/09/19 11:39 AM |
| 1 | "...it's like the whole world could cease to exist, and you wouldn't care...."There is much frustration for men. Trying to find out where to fit into the world. While you may be convinced into living a life to serve yourself, you will find this very unsatisfying. Jesus - the Christ - is the example of the ultimate man. The modern world will want you to serve women, serve money or corporations, serve ego but none of these will satisfy you in the end. However if one learns about Christ who did sacrifice but for virtue, for God, to serve others but not for his own gain- this… | /r/MGTOW2 | 15/09/19 06:56 PM |
| 1 | What's bothering you lately? Let's talk about it.It may be also good to ask, what are you grateful for? What are you hoping to for? One thing I’ve noticed about all the men’s groups is they tend to focus on the bad. I’m not saying the complaints aren’t true, but we must focus on the things we want to create. | /r/MGTOW2 | 15/09/19 12:55 PM |
| 1 | My father was divorce-raped and now that I have a better job I take him to dinner and other thingsno one looks out for men. Good work. | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/09/19 10:10 PM |
| 1 | Married men of r/MGTOW2, what do you get from this sub?There will be some good women out there. But every woman seems good until challenged. So he's basically saying it's possible but you never know. | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/09/19 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Married men have a dead-eyed, soulless, expressionless stareYes | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/09/19 07:21 AM |
| 1 | Go to Thailand!I don't think getting prostitutes in other countries is going to lead to fulfillment in the long run. I would advise against it. Better to find your mission, stay focused on whatever, and be service oriented in your life. I think this will eventually lead to a dead end in 10-20 years - and it's not a good habit to start. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/09/19 03:09 AM |
| 1 | The economy depends on simps working hard and spending lots of money to impressIt’s a small part of the economy. Divorce is much bigger. Imagine being able to take half of a mans resources and future earnings for decades. That can feed the economy much more. But also many other things. To think the US economy runs on relationship stuff would be wrong. | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/09/19 09:49 AM |
| 1 | Did you guys see that article saying since men are making less money, it's women who is most affected?Someone said in another thread: Male suicide increase, women are most affected. Lol. You’re right, something terrible can happen to a man and all they think about is themselves. But women have always been like this to the core. The most pure type of love is agape, or love for loving the core of someone. There is also pragma which is love for what someone can do for you. Women love like that. They love how you make them feel. They love what you can get them. They love what you can do for them. Wh… | /r/MGTOW2 | 10/09/19 09:47 AM |
| 1 | There WON’T be a societal collapseExactly. You have to realize the male sex drive in the teenage and 20s is unrivaled. To think you can convince this unstoppable force to give up sex is like believing the sun will stop burning. So yes, you will always have men wanting sex and you will have our society finding ways to capitalize on this (child support, alimony, family courts). The only true possibility for collapse is if women become so selective they reject most men (tinder works in this fashion, where 5% of men are selected and… | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/09/19 08:22 AM |
| 1 | Boy suspended from school for acting in self-defence after girl attacks himWait, post about circumcision instead! | /r/MensRights | 03/09/19 08:44 PM |
| 1 | A few words about groupsLol. I've gone through Steve Jobs biography and know much about the development and progression of Apple. It was 1000% a group effort to create the Macintosh. Woz had little understanding of marketing, product design, or how to bring products to the marketplace, sales, etc. There is no reasonable person who would believe Apple was an individual effort. That's like a man or woman saying, well - I could probably have created this baby on my own. Musk is super intelligent but even he lacks many tec… | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/09/19 06:42 PM |
| 1 | A few words about groupsHard to say. Tesla is a car company that required a large group of mostly men to achieve a goal. The benefits largely have gone to men. Remember that men work in groups to achieve goals, be it military or corporations. Our society extracts wealth from men - so yes, women can do that but that’s not a group problem. Without modern pro feminism laws the wealth would stay with men. | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/09/19 04:03 PM |
| 1 | A few words about groupsGroups are great. We are social creatures and most meaningful accomplishments and goals require groups. | /r/MGTOW2 | 02/09/19 01:55 PM |
| 1 | My parents are bitter that I'm not getting married and having kidsThe potential savings is infinite haha. Ask Jeff Bezos | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/08/19 11:09 PM |
| 1 | My parents are bitter that I'm not getting married and having kids50-100k. Safest but weirdest also. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/08/19 10:19 PM |
| 1 | My parents are bitter that I'm not getting married and having kidsIts the honorable thing to do. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/08/19 12:33 PM |
| 1 | My parents are bitter that I'm not getting married and having kidsNo. You can give respect to parents when they don’t respect you. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/08/19 12:14 PM |
| 1 | My parents are bitter that I'm not getting married and having kidsWell, you never know if you’ll have kids unless you promise to never have sex again in life (or have a foolproof vasectomy). Regardless, I wouldn’t stress this too much. Your parents are not the captains of your ship. Be grateful to them for raising you. Honor them and respect them. But that doesn’t mean they get to choose how you live your life. You must find your own path and that is independent of them. I would tell them you respect and love them but you will be following your own path and no… | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/08/19 04:21 AM |
| 1 | MGTOW is The Way of Life Going Back MillenniaThis essay doesn’t flow logically and isn’t written well. | /r/MGTOW2 | 28/08/19 03:38 PM |
| 1 | So I don’t feel joy in playing video games anymorethere are plenty of inexpensive hobbies. Exercise, lifting, running, swimming. Photography. Learning a language. Sports. Reading. A few may have an initial investment of a few hundred dollars but so do most video games. | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/08/19 11:02 PM |
| 1 | So I don’t feel joy in playing video games anymoreexactly. There are no rules, but the general idea is that video games can be very unproductive and don't provide much benefit other than wasting time / entertainment. There are just so many better options that also don't have such limited benefits. Hope this helps some people. | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/08/19 11:00 PM |
| 1 | So I don’t feel joy in playing video games anymoreIt's like saying drinking isn't the greatest hobby. Sure, some people will have an occasional glass of scotch, but others will become alcoholics and ruin their lives. Why? Because if you take enough men - they MAY develop these problems: social isolation / not with real people / no face to face interactions, no real friends over playing (>5 hrs a week, maybe 10) no appreciable skill development (compare to learning a language, photography, music, archery, martial arts, building, carpentry, any o… | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/08/19 05:06 PM |
| 1 | Do you consider Purple Pill men to be MGTOW?Since you can’t define it without blue and red, just give me a simple definition of all 3. | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/08/19 02:18 PM |
| 1 | Do you consider Purple Pill men to be MGTOW?I stopped using definitions and realize everyone means something different by red pill, purple pill, blue pill, mgtow etc. Can you define red pill or purple pill? If you asked 10 guys to define them would every guy have a different answer? Yes. These terms have no real meaning. They are place holders for ideas. | /r/MGTOW2 | 27/08/19 10:45 AM |
| 1 | So I don’t feel joy in playing video games anymoreyeah, and I've done similar to you in the past. Everytime I try to play a game - I notice it's very easy to go from 1-2 hrs to 6-8 hrs, especially if you have a few days off. Then that turns into daily playing. Basically, video games are becoming so good they are addictive. And addictive games being played 10+ hrs a week or even 20 hrs a week (I had a college roommate who destroyed his life playing 50-60 hrs a week, sometimes more)... anyway, all this time can destroy your life unless you're a p… | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/08/19 03:26 PM |
| 1 | So I don’t feel joy in playing video games anymoreVideo games are ok - for fun for a few hours a week. But I honestly believe they are a poor hobby in general. I know this is not a popular opinion and it's judgemental. But I believe there are so many more interesting and more beneficial hobbies for men. | /r/MGTOW2 | 26/08/19 05:38 AM |
| 1 | I always have to wear a mask in publicIntegrity doesn’t put food in the table. It has for me. This year I'm earning over 400k and will get a raise next year. People want to be lied to. They want to think their food is healthy, their water is clean, a multivitamin will make you live longer, you’ll avoid skin cancer if you use sunscreen, that dress doesn’t make you look fat, politicians aren’t liars, and you’re better off than your friends. It doesn't matter what people like. Being a man and having integrity means you speak what is tr… | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/08/19 03:27 PM |
| 1 | I always have to wear a mask in publicLol what. This is terrible advice. You never want to lie to people. What if they become a friend? If someone asks about your relationship status, there is a simple answer. “I’m single”. Why? “I haven’t met the right person yet.” Everyone loves this answer because it supports the soul mate idea. Also it’s not a lie, as maybe there will never be a right person for you to marry - maybe there will who knows. Don’t ever lie about kids or anything like that. This is a bad habit to form - lying to stra… | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/08/19 12:57 PM |
| 1 | To the extent that feminists argue that 'toxic masculinity' keeps men constantly trying to measure up, i am tempted to say that feminists and MGTOW agree that ideas of masculinity need to change.see - that is NOT what a feminist means when they say toxic masculinity. It's like saying, "I don't like bad people". This asking right wing people and left wing people to define "bad people" - you will get very different answers. Yet everyone says, oh yeah - let's get rid of the bad people. Language is purposely vague so much so that it has no meaning. | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/08/19 07:49 PM |
| 1 | To the extent that feminists argue that 'toxic masculinity' keeps men constantly trying to measure up, i am tempted to say that feminists and MGTOW agree that ideas of masculinity need to change.Define toxic masculinity in actual words. These left wing ideas are purposely vague and confusing. I’m sure if you even try to define it you won’t post it because it’s not definable and everyone means something else by the term. | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/08/19 02:29 PM |
| 1 | Humanity can now afford to be MGTOW and childfree like never beforeYeah, 200 years is far away. I doubt America makes it another 200 years. | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/08/19 02:27 PM |
| 1 | Humanity can now afford to be MGTOW and childfree like never beforeI've been following AI pretty closely and I realize there are big changes coming. All your examples of AI don't say anything other than the owners of AI are going to get very rich. I agree there are many great advances coming in automation (I know Yang is running on this idea also). The issue isn't automation taking over, it's that we have an upside down population pyramid with mostly old people and no young tax payers. The AI issue makes it worse because less workers will earn incomes. Again, t… | /r/MGTOW2 | 22/08/19 04:39 AM |
| 1 | Humanity can now afford to be MGTOW and childfree like never before? A surplus of humans. I believe you're trying to say that we won't need as many laborers due to automation. This is NOT a surplus of humans. I don't fully understand your point. The point I'm making is that without a large tax payer base, the country won't be able to afford to pay for everyone's stuff (welfare specifically). Genocide would be a solution to this problem only if you selectively killed everyone over 65 (inhumane - not a solution I'm providing - I'm just responding to your comment)… | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/08/19 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Humanity can now afford to be MGTOW and childfree like never beforeI don't "need" to do anything. What I am saying is either true or false. I have no burden to mount a defense and list sources. If you're interested, you can google what's happening in Japan, you can Google the most recent data on birth rates especially in liberal states like CA and NYC. You can also learn how European countries are having many african and muslim immigrants coming in to become their tax payer base... why? The replacement rate. Many sophisticated and intelligent men who has studie… | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/08/19 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Humanity can now afford to be MGTOW and childfree like never beforeAre you serious? There is a huge problem with birth rates and replacement rate of humanity brewing. If America doesn’t start having babies it’s going to be like japan or other countries where there is desperation to procreate. That is why immigration is such a debate, the left wants those people to pay taxes and vote democrat. You need a large young tax payer base to pay for welfare / social security. The west is dying in ways. | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/08/19 02:43 PM |
| 1 | not gonna waste my energy hating womenExactly. More time spent hating is time wasted. Many MGTOW guys get upset at the world then begin to rip on women or whatever. I just don't see this as a positive path. You must find positive things to move towards - not sit and be a critic of the world. | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/08/19 03:37 AM |
| 1 | Why do I have to constantly explain myself???not everyone is on that train. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Why do I have to constantly explain myself???Many people must experience things to learn for themselves. Others can learn from others experiences and extrapolate. Until a divorce or woman has destroyed a man - can he understand the potential of the wrong woman? Maybe. But many won't. Especially young men. The younger you are the more likely you are thinking with your genitals and women will have a large appeal. After that 15-29 range, you begin to get a little bit more brain back in the war for control. | /r/MGTOW2 | 19/08/19 04:44 AM |
| -1 | The eventual reality of not roping in a betabux(yet)...Because you want to fuck her. Nope. No more than I want to have sex with the lung cancer guy I mentioned above. She’s not attractive. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 17/08/19 09:09 PM |
| 1 | A perfect example of MGTOW in literatureThere is nothing new under the sun. | /r/MGTOW2 | 17/08/19 06:29 PM |
| 20 | It's ok to have preferences. Everyone has them. What isn't ok, is to claim you are the only one allowed to have them. This is how carousel riders internally justify chasing chads and being 2/10 landwhales themselves.Rich Cooper - entrepreneur in cars just made a video on this. He posted on Twitter 6 requirements like, be able to cook, be feminine, etc. Women lost their collective shit. However women are fine with 6 feet, 6 figures, 6 back, etc Women want no standards for themselves and ridiculous standards for men. I am very tall but the reality is like less than 10% are above 6’2” I believe. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 17/08/19 12:52 PM |
| 14 | The power of Chad and the hypocrisy of the average woman.He could say anything and they all react the same. I did this for an hour once - just find some chad on instagram and load up 4-5 pics of his. It's eye opening to see how easy it is. I opened with "sup" or "yo" and had women asking me to meet at an apartment for a hook up. It's that easy for chad. | /r/MGTOW | 17/08/19 07:20 AM |
| 10 | Heartbroken father, 26, hanged himself during bitter battle with his ex-partner over access to their five-year-old daughterFor 50-100k you can pay a woman to have a surrogate child. So you can do it today. For many higher earning men, 100k is a fraction of what a marriage or divorce would cost. Techlead on Youtube just lost 540k just for child support. | /r/MGTOW | 17/08/19 07:01 AM |
| 6 | Heartbroken father, 26, hanged himself during bitter battle with his ex-partner over access to their five-year-old daughterIt's so criminal to steal a father's child from him. All the sacrifice for your flesh and blood. This is among the most inhumane and immoral things we do to men. And to abuse them financially while they abuse them by stealing their children. It's disgusting that America does this. Taking your kids to another country isn't the answer. Men have to either boycott marriage and children or change the laws. You can't take them and run, because then they still have the law against you. | /r/MGTOW | 17/08/19 06:59 AM |
| 2 | Heartbroken father, 26, hanged himself during bitter battle with his ex-partner over access to their five-year-old daughter: ( | /r/MGTOW | 17/08/19 06:58 AM |
| 10 | The eventual reality of not roping in a betabux(yet)...I think I would have sympathy, but you're right it may be less. I do think we tend to be easier on women. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 16/08/19 10:22 PM |
| 1 | Stop being apologetic for the shitty behavior of others.Marcus Aurelius had some thoughts on this: “When you wake up in the morning, tell yourself: the people I deal with today will be meddling, ungrateful, arrogant, dishonest, jealous and surly. They are like this because they can't tell good from evil. But I have seen the beauty of good, and the ugliness of evil, and have recognized that the wrongdoer has a nature related to my own - not of the same blood and birth, but the same mind, and possessing a share of the divine. And so none of them can hu… | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/19 10:19 PM |
| 16 | The eventual reality of not roping in a betabux(yet)...fair enough. We're on the same team. I don't disagree with your points. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 16/08/19 07:16 PM |
| 22 | The eventual reality of not roping in a betabux(yet)...I agree that she made bad decisions and is used up. Fuck her and fuck any sympathy I have to give to actual human beings that ended up in a rut to no fault of their own. I don't agree here. But I can understand why you come to this conclusion. I agree they are reaping the fruit they sowed... but I will still have sympathy for her. If I had a cousin or family member who made all these bad decisions it still sucks for them. I'm happy to look at their hypocrisy and call out their BS but when someon… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 16/08/19 07:11 PM |
| 50 | The eventual reality of not roping in a betabux(yet)...I feel bad for her to be honest. Just like when someone gets lung cancer from smoking. Even if they are mean spirited or whatever, I feel bad for them to slowly struggle the rest of their days. Anyway, I tried to explain this phenomenon - hundreds of years ago, the "beta provider" as we call it today, was more attractive because he offered stability and those chads that women love today, they weren't necessarilly as attractive because women knew that why they had physical appeal, they would leav… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 16/08/19 07:01 PM |
| 1 | women 🤡100% chance she will be single at 40. | /r/MGTOW | 16/08/19 06:56 PM |
| 1 | SEX ROBOTSOk. But I think it's crazy to think Tesla isn't a success. They deliver many cars. Customers love their cars. If they had some creditor help for a bit that's fine, it's a very competitive industry. I'm hoping Tesla lasts a long time and they make really cool cars. It's hard to compete with Toyota, Ford, Mercedez, BMW... | /r/MGTOW2 | 16/08/19 07:48 AM |
| 5 | Seriously, sex is not even that good.While your sentiments are true. When a man is horny - his brain doesn't function. | /r/MGTOW | 15/08/19 08:30 PM |
| 1 | SEX ROBOTS"AI in your brain" - is just too vague. We can agree we have AI that is progressing at lightspeed. The true goal of neuralink was to be an interface between computer and brain. So the question isn't, can neuralink be AI - AI is an independent thing. We are alrady getting some AI on our phones today. AI will continue to be on our phones in 10 years with even greater uses. The true question of neuralink is can it be an interface instead of a keyboard on your iphone or whatever. That's the goal, th… | /r/MGTOW2 | 15/08/19 07:01 PM |
| 2 | Now tell me why all the systems that encourage girls to do sciences and discourage boys are most likely going to stay in place. University is already 60% female. My “feminist” head of physics put me down all the time, time to stop complaining about sexism in STEM.They want to flood the market so they can pay men less. If there are twice as many engineers then they can drop everyone's salary. It's an economic play, nothing else. | /r/MensRights | 15/08/19 06:52 PM |
| 1 | SEX ROBOTSIt's Elon musk. He launched himself into lots of great and ambitious projects, and saying they "most often" failed is an understatement WTF? He's worth 20 billion. I wouldn't call SpaceX and Tesla failures. Can you name another startup rocket company or car company that is afloat in the past 20 years? Jeff Bezos is keeping his rocket company alive because he's worth nearly 100 billion. Neuralink is not lightyears away. It's a few years away lol. You didn't even define what neuralink is... if the… | /r/MGTOW2 | 15/08/19 06:47 PM |
| 9 | They are never satisfiedExactly | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 14/08/19 03:47 PM |
| 3 | They are never satisfied100%. If you don’t know her, I try to set a spending limit of 5-20$. It really should be $5. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 14/08/19 03:47 PM |
| 5 | When A Woman Says "I wouldn't have appreciated you when I was younger", she means "I settled for you because I couldn't get commitment from a man I was really attracted to."I agree on principle. I like charity and Helping people in need. The issue with our welfare state is many people abuse the system and take advantage of it. I would not be against some help if it went to those in need and didn’t support abusers. With our BS family court laws, that’s not even welfare- it’s just blatant abuse of men | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 14/08/19 03:34 PM |
| 4 | When A Woman Says "I wouldn't have appreciated you when I was younger", she means "I settled for you because I couldn't get commitment from a man I was really attracted to."Haha, no worries. Glad it was helpful. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 14/08/19 07:06 AM |
| 8 | When A Woman Says "I wouldn't have appreciated you when I was younger", she means "I settled for you because I couldn't get commitment from a man I was really attracted to."Here you go (repost) I did an edit at the end. I'm saying that slutty women is a problem of modern society. But the fact that a woman doesn't become attracted to the better guys until she's ready to marry shouldn't make a man feel bad - it's not bad. It's just, her brain is now thinking of more than just physicality / sex. My promiscuous, lying, cheating, immoral stripper example is the male corollary. No male would want to marry her but most males would sleep with her. We all have different cri… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 14/08/19 07:03 AM |
| 2 | When A Woman Says "I wouldn't have appreciated you when I was younger", she means "I settled for you because I couldn't get commitment from a man I was really attracted to."I did an edit at the end. I'm saying that slutty women is a problem of modern society. But the fact that a woman doesn't become attracted to the better guys until she's ready to marry shouldn't make a man feel bad - it's not bad. It's just, her brain is now thinking of more than just physicality / sex. My promiscuous, lying, cheating, immoral stripper example is the male corollary. No male would want to marry her but most males would sleep with her. We all have different criteria for animal leve… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 14/08/19 07:03 AM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.Logical | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 08:06 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.I had seen this video. I've also done all my own research here. All the numbers are cloudy at best. I do think the 1st marriage divorce rate is somewhere around 50% and probably on the rise (50-60%). Then as people are able to garner, many marriages are only staying together for family, religion or some other reason. So yes, it has to be somewhere in this 20-30% range IMHO. But I do not know. If it was 40% this is still a big gamble because divorce / child support can be financially ruinous espe… | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 07:49 PM |
| 7 | When A Woman Says "I wouldn't have appreciated you when I was younger", she means "I settled for you because I couldn't get commitment from a man I was really attracted to."I made a post about this before, but this isn't necessarily a bad thing. I explained that this is a modern problem because women have no consequences for choosing bad men today. There is child support, alimony, abortion, birth control, police, military, maintenance workers, mechanics, etc. Essentially a woman has an army of men to do what she needs and she can either erase bad future children or hold onto them and get lots of money (if the man is rich). A few hundred years ago, there were not al… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 13/08/19 07:41 PM |
| 34 | When A Woman Says "I wouldn't have appreciated you when I was younger", she means "I settled for you because I couldn't get commitment from a man I was really attracted to."I made a post about this before, but this isn't necessarily a bad thing. I explained that this is a modern problem because women have no consequences for choosing bad men today. There is child support, alimony, abortion, birth control, police, military, maintenance workers, mechanics, etc. Essentially a woman has an army of men to do what she needs and she can either erase bad future children or hold onto them and get lots of money (if the man is rich). A few hundred years ago, there were not al… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 13/08/19 07:40 PM |
| 1 | I need to reprogram my MGTOW life.I would guess maybe 20-30% of marriages workout decently right now. The issue is that for the 70% or whatever the number is, it can destroy your finances and life. | /r/MGTOW2 | 13/08/19 07:30 PM |
| 11 | Match.com study: 51% of single men in America have changed their behavior with women after #MeToopound me too | /r/MGTOW | 13/08/19 07:14 AM |
| 6 | Never marry!many women won't help men when they appear weak. They abandon them. They only like strong men. No loyalty. | /r/MGTOW | 13/08/19 07:08 AM |
| 2 | Mgtow makes you realize how shitty most dudes are toough, why does this always have to be negativity. I agree that some men do this, but yes - sex is such a driver for males under 30-35. | /r/MGTOW | 13/08/19 05:37 AM |
| 14 | When you're wife and daughter blatantly explain you that you're not the type of guy that fucks girls in their prime.oh, it's terrible for men in the west. We have lots of resources and stuff but the gender and politics are a nightmare | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 13/08/19 05:14 AM |
| 112 | When you're wife and daughter blatantly explain you that you're not the type of guy that fucks girls in their prime.This is a modern convenience for women. Without abortion + birth control, child support, alimony, maintenance men, military, government assistance, police assistance whenever a woman is in trouble, etc... A woman would pay dearly for choosing a terrible mate - she could be destitute, left alone, in danger for her life, have to turn to things like prostitution to survive... in fact, this is what happens in poorer countries still. So women are more careful and take into account that a "good guy" t… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 12/08/19 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?I lol'ed | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/08/19 04:22 PM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?Jesus is the greatest MGTOW of all time. | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/08/19 06:05 AM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?Jesus is the ultimate man, ultimate MGTOW, on mission to the core, never got frazzled, stayed true until the end. Peace under pressure. The ultimate. | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/08/19 06:05 AM |
| 1 | I am thinking that i might store my sperm before i hit 30 so that i have more time to consider surrogacy if i want (in my 50s). Provided they don't use my sperm to impregnate some desperate female somewhere.oh, I agree about marriage being super risky / tricky investment. I think being a mother is hard - it's just not hard compared to a real job as Burr says (being a coal miner lol). But yes, make no mistake, the kids are full time effort (although it's not difficult). I still think it would be hard to have a full time job and do that. Now if you hire a nanny also, well - that's better then. A nanny in cheaper states with immigrants could be as little as 15k annually or something. Again, if you hav… | /r/MGTOW2 | 12/08/19 06:03 AM |
| 1 | Hey guys, please recommend a good movie/series to watch that aligns with MGTOW philosophy. Options are very limited. Do you know of any good ones?The Passion of the Christ. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 06:39 PM |
| 1 | I am thinking that i might store my sperm before i hit 30 so that i have more time to consider surrogacy if i want (in my 50s). Provided they don't use my sperm to impregnate some desperate female somewhere.Why do you have so many jars of sauce in your freezer? | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 05:55 PM |
| 1 | I am thinking that i might store my sperm before i hit 30 so that i have more time to consider surrogacy if i want (in my 50s). Provided they don't use my sperm to impregnate some desperate female somewhere.not necessarily. Clint Eastwood had kids older. I think Grant Cardone had a few kids in his mid 40s? Many people do it and have no issues. I personally wouldn't do this in my 20s. | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 05:54 PM |
| 1 | I am thinking that i might store my sperm before i hit 30 so that i have more time to consider surrogacy if i want (in my 50s). Provided they don't use my sperm to impregnate some desperate female somewhere.It's an interesting idea - but I would think unless you're wealthy (millions) - it would be hard to have time to do a career and raise a child. Just like single mothers not having the best kids, a father with obligations and raising a child is difficult. It's almost like a man and woman together is better for raising a child... | /r/MGTOW2 | 11/08/19 05:52 PM |
| 39 | I am depressed. Chads no longer look at me like they used to. And the last Chad I was with was “abusive” and dumped me. Now, I’ve only Mr. Stable and Responsive left. But, I don’t want him - yet. I’m still 25. I wanna ride the carousel a little longer but Chads are avoiding me like the plague. Help!I feel bad for men on this one. When the person your dedicating your love, time, money is thinking of you as a trash 3rd or 4th option because in our society she can be rewarded for sleeping around with abusive chads... it's sad. The government, police state, family courts, social safety net, abortions, all provide tons of opportunities to abuse relationships. Hundreds of years ago you would be destitute if you did this. Also, if she does marry this guy - in 3-7 years she'll have an epiphany sta… | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 11/08/19 05:05 PM |
| 16 | She felt that her childhood love the day after she hooked up with a Chad. She says that she wished she had met him when she was older because he would be perfect as a husband.Yeah. Threat of personal loss is all they care about. Not the guy they just used and abused. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 10/08/19 05:20 PM |
| 17 | She felt that her childhood love the day after she hooked up with a Chad. She says that she wished she had met him when she was older because he would be perfect as a husband.If men stop bailing these women out (I believe they are starting to), then at least they will pay the consequences. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 10/08/19 05:17 PM |
| 1 | Is MGTOW the right way ?Couple things. Define the problem first then figure out the solution. - Loneliness - you need a better and stronger social circle. Happy people have strong social groups before or after their marriage. - Understand the laws and female nature - women will want to lock down a high status / high provisioning male to get things from him (sperm, money, improved social status). Often when they get what they want, they have the upper hand and can do whatever they want with the laws in the west. Includi… | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/19 07:32 PM |
| 1 | The End?you only have to be right once. | /r/MGTOW2 | 09/08/19 05:44 AM |
| 1 | The Beta Male Economy...https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/jul/12/belle-delphine-gamer-girl-instagram-selling-bath-wate | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 08:52 PM |
| 1 | The Beta Male Economy...I think we have to worry about them. It's like watching people trapped in prison who are being poisoned to death. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 08:02 PM |
| 1 | The Breakdown of Male / Female Relationshipsisn't it fascinating that you could have a great job, have great character, have great potential but an old car is a turn off. Yet an Ahole with no money, tons of debt and a leased BMW would be seen as a catch. Women are so superficial. That's why they all love instagram. Image is everything. There is a great quote by John Wooden, who had record college championships in basketball, considered one of the greatest of all time coaches: "Worry about your character, don't worry about your reputation.… | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Disabled and chronically ill mgtowFind your own niche. You can use your mind, most work today is mental work regardless. And do the physical things you can, unless you are unable to move at all. Just do what you can and do it the best you possibly can. | /r/MGTOW2 | 08/08/19 04:06 PM |
| 1 | So yeah, I finally took the plungeSurrogate mothers can cost 100k. Artificial wombs are far away. However the fact is it’s easier to raise a kid with two people than it is with one. Especially if one person is a high demand career.. If you’re going to have a family the reality is it’s good to have a mom and a dad that stay together | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Trained to be slavesI can’t imagine how terrible this would be. It makes me sad for other men. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Trained to be slavesI would add that women have a false appearance of security. Most of them are depressed and highly insecure. But yes the world takes advantage of men. It’s all about money. They want to extract as much resources and value out of them so that they can become rich. They used to be the rich doing this but now it’s feminism and the general population. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 07:38 PM |
| 1 | I'm going my own way! Hey! Hey you! I said I'm going my own way!I drop red pills all the time. Why? Because it’s true. You can make predictions about female behavior with red pill truths. Also beta male behaviors. I don’t convince anyone to change their mind but I speak the truth. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 07:35 PM |
| 1 | The Breakdown of Male / Female RelationshipsAgreed. Which is why alimony and child support are so important to them. If they can use our sex drive to extract half or more of our wealth and earning at the peak of our productivity then that’s tons of money for women to waste. As the guy said in my video, his three year old will get 3k for month for 15 years which is 540k or like 750k in salary. What 3 year old needs a 50k per year job to support himself. It’s all a huge scam and women are extracting from men and using sex to get it from the… | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 05:30 PM |
| 1 | The Breakdown of Male / Female RelationshipsThe whole idea that you’re safe if she’s attracted to you then you’re better off is false. See Brad Pitt, Johnny Depp, Channing Tatum, Chris Hemsworth. All sexiest men on the planet. All can’t keep a wife happy. It’s the laws and the west. Even betas could stayed married if the divorce rate is near 0. But this is the west. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 11:46 AM |
| 1 | The Breakdown of Male / Female RelationshipsFair enough. I not here to try to explain every benefit of a female relationship. Every man is going to have a different reason. I simply used the vague term "value" because it's individual. It's like why do men like cars, homes, gadgets, etc - everyone will have a different reason. I listed a few above but are there more? I'm sure. My point here is that some men will find value in a relationship - I'm saying excluding the terrible family court laws, divorce laws, modern female high demands etc.… | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 02:36 AM |
| 1 | The Breakdown of Male / Female RelationshipsThe only people who see it are single or divorced men experiencing the modern female (non chads, so a large 85-90% of men). We all see it. But females don’t. They are enjoying the ride. In the video I shared he made a good point. Women don’t do what’s moral or fair, they will do whatever is legal. If the law said that a man should be castrated and lose 99% of his money, they would do it. They just consider it their rights. | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 02:06 AM |
| 1 | The Breakdown of Male / Female RelationshipsI don’t like to consider it giving up. The juice not being worth the squeeze comes to mind. If the deal is: you get a near to post-wall female, a few years of commitment and sex (I didn’t even mention dead bedrooms in my essay), tons of financial risk, risk of losing your children, risk of jail if you don’t pay, risk of financial ruin, etc Why would zany rational man take this option. It’s all risk and the reward is a year to two of unenthusiastic sex. If you watch the videos I posted he mention… | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 01:51 AM |
| 1 | The Breakdown of Male / Female RelationshipsThere are examples, I know some in my life. I have friends with good wives that are supportive. I have family friends who have been married 20+ years that do well. I never said every man needs a woman. I said there have been some successful relationships in the history of time. In other words, more than 0 relationships that have been beneficial for both parties. I can't convince you if you're convinced otherwise. I've studied and learned persuasion and the #1 thing you can do is avoid convincing… | /r/MGTOW2 | 07/08/19 12:17 AM |
| 1 | The Breakdown of Male / Female RelationshipsThank you for this reply. It's kind of crazy, but the MGTOW guys are so jaded that they believe there is not a single good relationship on earth or in the history of time. I know it's gotten bad but to think that there hasn't ever been a single good relationship, wife or mother - that's insanity. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/08/19 10:50 PM |
| 1 | The Breakdown of Male / Female RelationshipsOh I agree. They are treated special and don’t even realize it. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/08/19 08:40 PM |
| 1 | The Breakdown of Male / Female RelationshipsI think it’s delusional to think no woman in history has provided value to her husband. Some women in the past were loyal, provided children, kept a great home and enhanced a mans opportunities. Some women were great supportive companions and had a 0% divorce rate. The Amish today still have basically a 0% divorce rate. Most of the issues of modern women are due to women’s rights, family court laws, feminism and a wealthy country. Without these things - women need men. Which makes them appreciat… | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/08/19 07:10 PM |
| 1 | I may now agree with everything that Coach Red Pill says but i do admit that men simp over women because generally, women have more social options as compared to men. It bit me once in the past. So, on your MGTOW life, make as many social connections as possible.I wrote a post on this in the other mgtow forum. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/08/19 04:25 PM |
| 1 | I may now agree with everything that Coach Red Pill says but i do admit that men simp over women because generally, women have more social options as compared to men. It bit me once in the past. So, on your MGTOW life, make as many social connections as possible.Women have more options young. If you hit your 30s or 40s and are rich and high status, the game can change. A 35 yr old man and woman have completely different trajectories. | /r/MGTOW2 | 06/08/19 04:12 PM |
| 3 | Gentlemen - if you have kids, THIS is your purpose in life. Not chasing tail.Women don't understand any of this. This is why men are important. Masculinity is important. The world will fall without men. | /r/MGTOW | 05/08/19 04:56 AM |
| 1 | This woman makes sense about MGTOW. If the man's role is increasingly being beaten down, it is now not a good way to attain that masculine identity as a husband .yeah, basically there's an army of men working for women - so they don't need A man. They have thousands already. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/08/19 02:27 AM |
| 1 | This woman makes sense about MGTOW. If the man's role is increasingly being beaten down, it is now not a good way to attain that masculine identity as a husband .It is somewhat true. Nothing is 100% true. Let's think. Thousands of years ago you needed a man to stay safe, to get resources, etc. Now you have your government, the police, technology, etc. Women can stay safe and protected and wealthy, with a simple 30k per year job. Yes, men have been outsourced by the government and society. Yes, men are still of use - we work in all the STEM fields and still are the most productive humans BUT remember they don't need us on a 1 to 1 basis anymore. It's all … | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/08/19 12:14 AM |
| 1 | This woman makes sense about MGTOW. If the man's role is increasingly being beaten down, it is now not a good way to attain that masculine identity as a husband .It's more than that. They get their biological clock. They get half your resources. If you're a high income earner they could take up to hundreds of thousands to a million dollars of your wealth. So yes, they get everything and then destroy the man for everything. It's a terrible option for men. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/08/19 12:12 AM |
| 1 | This woman makes sense about MGTOW. If the man's role is increasingly being beaten down, it is now not a good way to attain that masculine identity as a husband .agreed | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/08/19 12:10 AM |
| 1 | This woman makes sense about MGTOW. If the man's role is increasingly being beaten down, it is now not a good way to attain that masculine identity as a husband .There are recent studies where women choose only 5% of tinder matches while men choose 62%. It's much worse than only 20%. | /r/MGTOW2 | 05/08/19 12:10 AM |
| 1 | Found this prime example of why MGTOW exists, really sad to see this guy be put down by everyone for pursuing his passion.Agree. I think he should speak with his wife as she is affected by this decision also. Once you’re married the rules do change. It is true that he would be better off being MGTOW, however once you’re married you do have to think about other people. Following your passion is not the best advice as a single criteria for how to choose your career. If your passion is playing dominoes with homeless people and you could also have a satisfying career as a physician, I would not recommend to play domino… | /r/MGTOW2 | 04/08/19 06:23 AM |
| 1 | Wife just told me she wants divorce.I don't think so. It's about power. Masculinity. Confidence. Self-assured. Strength. They lack all these qualities. Her asking for you to change is more of an attempt to test your strength. Just like little children testing thier father's strength. Deep down they don't want to break you. They want you to resist. The whole treat them like garbage thing is partly true because of the qualities needed to treat someone like garbage involve strength and masculinity. | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/08/19 05:03 AM |
| 1 | Wife just told me she wants divorce.You already know your problem: she tells me that after she made me change into who she wants me to be, she doesn't love me anymore Now she's my everything and I've comitted so much to being everything she wanted me to be These are not masculine qualities. These are feminine. And now shes says "I don't like who you are". Sure, no women wants a man who builds his life around her. They just say that but in reality, they want to integrate into a man's world. Every guy who becomes who she wants, or… | /r/MGTOW2 | 03/08/19 04:07 AM |
| 1 | MGTOW and why I'm done with Reddit.You're right that Reddit has a liberal bias. I however don't think that you can say reddit has no value. I believe if you use it intelligently, it can provide value. There are subreddits that have people who specialize in hobbies or certain things you're trying to learn that can be helpful. There are also entertaining subreddits. If you're coming on Reddit looking for a rational intelligent level-headed discussion, this will be much harder to find obviously. | /r/MGTOW2 | 01/08/19 07:39 PM |
| 1 | Joined a dorm and it honestly feels kinda sadYou can't fix other people. Just do your best in your spot and if you can help others, try to help but realize you can't fix them. | /r/MGTOW2 | 30/07/19 05:21 PM |
| 14 | "My wife just told me I'm the guy she settled for financially and that she can't get over her ex."Well, you're describing how lust can blind men in general. It's a weakness of all men. You're 100% right that it's temporary though. Relationships built on lust and hypergamy will never last. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 26/07/19 08:49 PM |
| 7 | "My wife just told me I'm the guy she settled for financially and that she can't get over her ex."The frustrating thing about this BS is that, as a man, we have a lot to offer women - but to be someone's backup plan is a terrible disservice to that man. Sucks that women use men like this. | /r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen | 26/07/19 08:47 PM |
| 1 | I feel invisible sometimes.If you are seeking to get validation from random women, your life will be miserable. Even if you get your validation from women at all. They are fickle and in our culture, a woman who is going to be loyal and love you for you until death is rare. Don't look to women for validation. | /r/MGTOW2 | 24/07/19 07:23 PM |
| 1 | How to be a good first time supervisor?I work in a field where poor performance leads to death. I never said you can’t give negative feedback, you just have to be subtle. To clarify we need to know if this guy is in construction or the corporate world, etc. | /r/MGTOW2 | 21/07/19 05:54 PM |
| 1 | Anyone wish they didn't have to go their own way?This won’t be popular but companionship is not IMpossible. To think there have been zero successful relationship is history would be wrong. The problem many mgtow come up with is that the laws, the environment and modern western women make this harder. The odds may be 1 in 10 or 1 in 100, who knows. But there are successes out there. If you want companionship then pursue it. However your idea about Disney love is not real. Real life is different. | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/07/19 08:50 PM |
| 1 | "Just be more confident", ok, but what are they trying to say?Agree with this. The way I see confidence in few words is how men act when they are leaders in a social group, self assured, not fearful, competent, etc. People try to mimic what a “confident” guy in his element looks like. They are trying to mimic a successful man. Or you can just become that man. | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/07/19 08:46 PM |
| 1 | immediate reaction to the post "direction of this subreddit"I think your feelings are warranted. As humans, we want to share successes and wins / experiences with others. It's natural. The question is if it has to be with a woman. It could be with a dog, any friend, or even a woman - but there is a natural desire for us to share these things and in sharing we experience them more. I've noticed this also - MGTOW, as an idea is fine but the idea that men should be isolated is not a good one. | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/07/19 01:04 PM |
| 1 | How to be a good first time supervisor?Always be kind, never be harsh. There are times you will need to communicate something needs to be done but be gentle with how you communicate. Treat people like individuals, try to learn about who they are / names / things about them. The more people like you and feel appreciated, the better they will do in their jobs. Criticism is rarely helpful, if needed - be careful about it and make sure it's given in a very easy / non-threatening way and in private, never in a group. Essentially, the more… | /r/MGTOW2 | 20/07/19 01:02 PM |
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