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Red Pill TheoryTrialsAndTribbles/r/TheRedPill01/02/16 06:09 PM
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ScienceTrialsAndTribbles/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 03:17 PM
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Social IssuesTrialsAndTribbles/r/MensRights16/09/15 12:17 AM
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TrialsAndTribbles/r/MGTOW16/09/15 06:20 PM
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DiscussionTrialsAndTribbles/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 02:41 PM
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CMVTrialsAndTribbles/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 09:11 PM
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DiscussionTrialsAndTribbles/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 05:41 PM
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DiscussionTrialsAndTribbles/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 09:43 PM
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Question for BluePillTrialsAndTribbles/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 04:46 PM
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ScienceTrialsAndTribbles/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 01:13 AM
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DiscussionTrialsAndTribbles/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 11:07 PM
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DiscussionTrialsAndTribbles/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 01:25 AM
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DiscussionTrialsAndTribbles/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 06:17 PM
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DiscussionTrialsAndTribbles/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 04:50 PM
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Doesn't matter, New York City investigators already confirmed it's easy as hell to commit vote fraud, many times. Your bias is hopeless.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 01:18 AM
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It has to be sponsored? Lol, you're really grasping for straws at this point. Sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 11:15 PM
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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-tied-going-into-conventions-cbsnyt-poll/ For most of this election cycle the public has said Hillary is more dishonest. That cognitive dissonance is real. I would dig up more polls but you're really not worth my time. And registered voters skew democrat compared to likely voters, so in reality it's likely worse for her than this poll indicates.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 11:14 PM
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The source is from the NYC inspectors, National Review is just relaying the relevant and most importantly, verifiable information. But I see you are hopelessly mired in denial and ignorance, no hope for a reasonable conservation.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 11:11 PM
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Comes natural to about half of them. In my experience there is a masculine gay man for every feminine one. Nature balances things like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 10:50 PM
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Something we agree on, well stated.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 08:47 PM
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I don't see how buzzwords are all that detrimental to such conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 08:44 PM
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Every popular comedy sitcom makes regular mockery of men, this is no surprise. Misandry in society is real as a means of improving women's self-esteem at men's expense, very similar to the anti-white hysteria, like white privilege. To be male and white is considered the lowest form of human life to too many people today, because society is full of underachievers looking for someone else to blame besides themselves for their lot in life, which admittedly is not great right now, but for other reas…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 08:35 PM
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There's a fine line between civility and censorship, I would rather suffer the consequences of too much freedom than not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/16 08:29 PM
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New York City’s watchdog Department of Investigations has just provided the latest evidence of how easy it is to commit voter fraud that is almost undetectable. DOI undercover agents showed up at 63 polling places last fall and pretended to be voters who should have been turned away by election officials; the agents assumed the names of individuals who had died or moved out of town, or who were sitting in jail. In 61 instances, or 97 percent of the time, the testers were allowed to vote (yet wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 08:14 PM
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Hillary by far is the biggest liar in politics we've ever seen, and the people know it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 08:09 PM
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He's at stanford, therefore it's a stanford study.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 08:09 PM
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Because every criminal is always caught right? Don't be naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 07:59 PM
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He conducted a study, dismiss it if you want to be ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 07:58 PM
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Also, the only people stealing elections today are democrats, as evidenced in a recent Stanford study of the 2016 democratic nomination. http://caucus99percent.com/content/election-fraud-study-authors-respond-critics
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 03:52 PM
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How do you prove something that is inherently in the shadows? Do these people volunteer themselves to investigators like illegals turn themselves in for deportation? Ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 03:49 PM
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Right, because people who break the law are very willing to participate in a study. If even one person votes twice it justifies voter ID. And the dumb fucks who can't manage to get an ID, which is simple, can go fuck themselves. You've got people out there like Will Smith who is dreaming of a new holocaust against Trump supporters, and Bob Beckel and others who wouldn't bat an eye if Julian Assange was murdered by the US Government. You can't tell me there isn't fraud if the system is wide open,…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/16 02:50 PM
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I didn't say it was rampant, but it exists such that it can swing very close elections (1-3% difference).
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 07:08 PM
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Not at all, I don't always agree with the right, I am alt-right.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 05:44 PM
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The constitution is meant to be amended, something the democrats should learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 04:54 PM
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Voter fraud has long been a problem, but it's only taken prominence due to elections being closer than usual now. They can only steal it if it's close.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 04:53 PM
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I didn't say it did, I just said I philosophically am partial to changing the constitution to reflect a more perfect union.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 04:23 PM
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Like voter ID? No, I think people should have enough sense to get a Government issued ID if they want to vote. Although I don't believe anyone who doesn't pay income taxes should be voting to begin with, philosophically, as most black voters don't. I believe in all of our rights, until people start violating the constitution blatantly, in which case the entire thing is just a piece of paper.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 05:09 PM
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Go to hell.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 05:07 PM
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That's your specialty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 05:07 PM
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That's their job, criticize the opposition, just like every cuck calls all conservatives racist, thank god for trump.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 05:07 PM
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What republicans? Trump? Who else? Did Speaker Ryan do it? McCain? Romney? Why would they give one of their own, Ted Cruz, more shit than Obama? It's not god damn close to the same thing because Obama is President, and Ted Cruz is a tiny, pathetic little man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 04:05 PM
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Nah, I was reading about project Echelon long before the patriot act.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 04:04 PM
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He did lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 04:03 PM
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Yes people are trying to take guns, Bloomberg and many others secretly desire this, even Hillary and Obama if they were completely truthful.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 04:02 PM
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No, it's never wrong to defend the constitution against enemies, foreign and domestic. I should hope all Americans would be willing to die to protect our rights, sadly that is not the case. Trump was merely pointing out the obvious, that's why the US military did training in Texas a few years ago to put down such civil uprisings. Clinton saying that about obama was ridiculous, how is it reasonable? If anything Trump was trying to save lives by warning the left not to push gun bans too far and sp…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 04:02 PM
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Clinton insinuated she was staying in the race against obama because he could be assassinated in 08. Trump's words are always twisted. The fact of the matter is though if they ever ban guns as I know certain people in high places would desire, there will be a civil war or at the very least massive civil unrest. Politicians won't be able to go outside their own homes without a bulletproof SUV and security up the ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 01:29 AM
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Most conservatives would not criticize that, especially a black man running for president. They'd be called racist even if they wanted to, ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 01:27 AM
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I new the NSA was spying on everything well before Snowden. I know a few things.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 01:27 AM
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How so? Republicans didn't create the fucking birther conspiracy? And Ted Cruz, a white male, was put through something very similar. Perfect counterpoint to your propaganda.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 01:26 AM
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Hillary's surrogates started the birther conspiracy. It's the same with Ted Cruz being born in canada, people gave him shit for that too. It's good you can admit your hyperbole, you're almost there. Obama did grow up partially in a muslim nation though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 10:52 PM
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I believe Hillary is a murderer via surrogates, but vote for whoever you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 10:52 PM
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Nope, obama is fine. I was merely pointing out that the stereotype is correct though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 10:51 PM
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If by "tiny fringe" you mean "every single conservative", then I agree with you. Source? Put up for shut up.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 09:29 PM
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Do you honestly believe one of the most corrupt politicians in our history can win with the wikileaks emails already released and much more to come, directly from wikileaks themselves saying this. This woman is a criminal, pure and simple. Trump wins on the question of the economy, it's just a matter of whether people can stomach him over her or not, and people's pocket books usually do that. I believe they will be able to and have no choice but to begrudgingly vote Trump. The democrats shot the…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 09:22 PM
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No I dont at all, I judge people based on their merits, and I judge most black fathers poorly.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 07:31 PM
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That will be you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 07:31 PM
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If by "tiny fringe" you mean "every single conservative", then I agree with you. Stopped reading right there. You a very lost individual, perhaps even bigoted, no point in continuing this conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 06:04 PM
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Given male sex drive it suggests many people in our distant past were omega. They didn't have porn to jerk off to when we lived in caves for example. And rape probably didn't work too well either, that's a great way to earn a beatdown by the alphas, unless they're raping rival tribes, in which case you'll probably end up dead. That's one reason why societies across the world moved towards monogamy in most cases. Parental investment became advantageous once the agricultural era began. Less so tod…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 05:55 PM
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A false assumption based on my other comments below. I believe she loves the donald and will stay with him to the end even though she doesn't need to at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 05:31 PM
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First of all, betas don't impregate multiple women typically, and Obama is clearly beta. Secondly, if obama did have multiple children from different wives I doubt people would care except for a tiny fringe. I am assuming nothing of the sort about obama, I am suggesting why the stereotype about black fathers exists, and it's not racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 05:30 PM
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omega is at 0 The genetic evidence of differential reproductive success suggests this is not accurate.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 05:26 PM
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About 40% of men who ever lived on this earth never reproduced, whereas about twice as many women did. So is omega really a tiny minority given these facts? I'm not so sure. Obesity alone can make someone an omega today. Men have always been disposable, natural selection impacts them the most. This is why there are more male geniuses and morons at both ends of the IQ scale. Women are more clustered towards average.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 05:18 PM
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Desirability for men is a logarithmic scale, not linear.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 05:15 PM
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No I am doing no such thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 05:11 PM
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No I really don't think so. The right is opposed to such nonsense because it usually results in poor childhood development and future economic prosperity for fatherless children. There are tangible issues involved here, not racism.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 04:20 PM
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Your point is negated by facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 03:01 PM
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I think she genuinely enjoys being with him, but primarily the initial motivation was probably money. Just because she's a gold digger doesn't mean that's all there is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 01:17 AM
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The difference is he provided for his children, unlike many black fathers to abandon them or have limited contact/support.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 01:15 AM
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Glad you enjoyed it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 10:41 PM
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I have another one I created that's 8 days old that deserves at least honorable mention imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 07:49 PM
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No it didn't make money, the advertising cost far exceeds the money they've made. They're going to lose about $100-200 million on this shit show, watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 01:11 AM
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Houston Press OpEd, sounds legit LOL. I wonder if maybe the director knows more, as he clearly said it is a failure. If they make another one you can save this post and say I told you so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 12:48 AM
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I guess that's why Sony just laid off a significant portion of their marketing team. Could it be because of this?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 02:15 PM
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The sweet taste of failure: http://thegg.net/articles/paul-feigs-ghostbusters-2016-flops-really-hard-at-the-box-office/
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 02:13 PM
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What is romantic love?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/16 02:18 PM
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Try Bloodline on Netflix, you'll thank me at the end of season 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 05:24 PM
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Movies often dont follow the books.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 05:21 PM
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Sure buddy
/r/MGTOW30/07/16 01:45 PM
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Per year
/r/MensRights29/07/16 04:17 AM
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So you can see how minor the second shift hypothesis truly is.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 12:41 AM
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Most of them do work, but if she makes $250,000 as a doctor or corporate executive or something and you make $50,000, the risk of divorce is extreme in such cases, as the chart clearly shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 12:27 AM
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No it wasn't measured, it's simple logic. If you're in the 10% or 20% you have excess income left over for all sorts of things, like maid service. My friends aren't even in the top 20 and they have a maid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 12:14 AM
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Safe to say many of them did or had the option available to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 12:07 AM
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http://imgur.com/pUVqjE4 It's in the study I originally linked above. The richest women are the most likely to dump their underachieving husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 11:31 PM
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http://imgur.com/pUVqjE4
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 11:30 PM
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See the chart on page 22-23: http://www.demogr.mpg.de/papers/working/wp-2004-010.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 11:25 PM
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Then how do you explain the richest women, who can afford to pay someone to clean their house, are the ones most likely to divorce their underachieving husbands? There is no second shift for such women. Second shift is a small slice of the pie.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 11:23 PM
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The richest women, who can afford maids, childcare, and everything else are most likely to divorce their husbands who earn significantly less or nothing. The reverse is not true for rich men. This was found in another study I read once.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 11:21 PM
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True, but women initiate most divorces. They can't tolerate being with a man that is lesser than them for too long in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 11:19 PM
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That age difference does tend to be a problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 11:00 PM
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Men are conditioned to suppress their dissatisfaction and eat the bitter pill, women have no such inhibitions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 08:32 PM
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Unfortunately, it is difficult to reconcile with conflicting arguments that marriage is inherently bad for men, which is a common sentiment in this corner of the internet. The only men saying this are too young to know better or bitter from bad relationships or marriages. All of the evidence supports marriage as beneficial to men. There is little logical impetus for a mother of adult children to take on a spouse who provides no practical day-to-day benefits, provided she can support herself, jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 08:31 PM
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Men are losing simply by not staying married. Unmarried men are prone to substance abuse and tend to die sooner and commit more suicides. In fact I think I read about rising suicides among middle aged men recently. Women are less likely to re-marry after a divorce because the benefits of marriage shift to men after a certain age. Sweden's relative happiness could also simply be a result of a robust social welfare state. A pity the benefits of this system haven't increased the birth rate above re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 08:06 PM
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Well we can examine the most egalitarian society in the world, Sweden, for answers to this question. If a cultural shift were possible it would have certainly been accomplished there. The relationship between increasing women’s earnings and rising divorce rates frequently has been explained by the so-called independence effect: If a wife enjoys a higher earning than her husband does, she gains less from marriage. It has also been argued that in a society with egalitarian gender attitudes this ef…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 07:55 PM
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Also you should read this if you haven't already: The relationship between increasing women’s earnings and rising divorce rates frequently has been explained by the so-called independence effect: If a wife enjoys a higher earning than her husband does, she gains less from marriage. It has also been argued that in a society with egalitarian gender attitudes this effect is less important. In this paper, we test if the independence effect applies to Sweden, a country in which egalitarian gender vie…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 07:52 PM
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Part of that depression may stem directly from her treatment of him though.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 07:48 PM
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She will be responsible for that whether she is single or married. It's called woman's work for a reason. Also, with modern conveniences, lets not overstate the difficulty of such work, certainly compared to past generations. If you find a study that controls for household duties I would love to see it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 07:46 PM
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I agree men are not performing household chores as women would desire. That's why I favor traditional relationships where the wife is free to focus on childcare and the household. The evidence is clear that men benefit from marriage more than women. That is the problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 07:39 PM
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I agree there is more to this than I thought, however stay at home dads are not the only issue. There is a linear relationship between a man's relative income to his wife and his risk of divorce. The simple fact of the matter is that in the modern era men benefit from marriage more than women do. That's why divorced men are more likely to seek to re-marry than divorced women.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 07:37 PM
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It's no surprise that men would feel inadequate in such a situation, nor women to feel disdain for it. It is not natural, men have been in charge of relationships for millions of years for the most part. That is the natural order of things. Attempts to break this have serious unintended consequences, like societal decline and negative population growth.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 07:30 PM
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The larger issue is the societal disintegration of advanced cultures (Japan and Germany being the most obvious examples with 1.4 children born per woman) who fail to reproduce as their fathers and grandfathers did not too long ago before 3rd wave feminism. Coupled with the fact that men have experienced zero real median income growth since the 1970's, and it all makes much more sense. Above the best interest of the individual comes one's own duty to society. But women are told they have no such …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 07:20 PM
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That's fine, no problem there.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 07:09 PM
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Someone would have to perform a suitable study for me to accept that. I don't think second shift is the only answer here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 06:56 PM
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Oh that may be, I have no problem considering other studies on that singular issue, but it's a minor one I added.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 06:51 PM
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My article is being published in the August 2016 issue of the relevant peer-reviewed organization.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 06:46 PM
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As the abstract says, this is not a simple matter, there are conflicting peer-reviewed results and unanswered questions that persist. Logic dictates the answers are not simple either or one dimensional.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 06:41 PM
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I have heard of the hypothesis, I never found it to be very compelling compared to other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 06:37 PM
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My point is not that such couples can never get along and are doomed, only that they are 32% more likely to be doomed. Also, your two anecdotes no longer nullify my own ;).
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 06:05 PM
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As I suspected. You see, your father retired wealthy as a young man, so your anecdote is invalid. Having a lot of money in the bank and sitting at home is not much different than working 30 years making $100,000 a year. He provided via his wealth rather than working income. This value-added to the relationship was quite high.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:58 PM
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But the conventional wisdom is that it should be increasing the frequency of sex if a husband helps more with chores. No study has been found to support this common yet false assumption. All we have are dueling papers that find none or a negative effect. Not exactly a glowing endorsement.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:55 PM
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How much money did he have when he retired adjusted for inflation?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:51 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:38 PM
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May I ask what your father did for a living before he retired?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:36 PM
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Your logic is sound. Yet I must take issue with your assertion. She is unselfish maybe, but hardly benevolent. She is acting in her best self-interest, as is the man who provides. Humans are naturally self-maximizing entities.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:32 PM
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9) Men who perform more household chores have less sex. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/men-who-do-housework-have-less-sex/ Conventional wisdom suggests that women are drawn to men who help out around the house. Yet new research indicates that some divisions of labor may be sexier than others. A February paper in the American Sociological Review reported that married couples in which men take on a greater share of the dishes, laundry and other traditionally female chores had sex less o…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:17 PM
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The abstract is lying to us I suppose. It says it right there. You must be misinterpreting what they're saying. Which is more likely here?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:14 PM
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How can they find evidence for the independence effect but no evidence for economic independence perspective? the so-called independence effect: If a wife enjoys a higher earning than her husband does, she gains less from marriage. We found support for the ‘independence effect’
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:06 PM
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Taken together they paint a more accurate picture of what is transpiring in egalitarian societies though, and it isn't pretty.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:03 PM
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I don't put an abundance of stock in such speculation, because it is usually governed by political correctness.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 05:01 PM
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I have never read anything to support this, nor do I find it particularly compelling. I have read however that men who do more household chores have less sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 04:47 PM
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I have in the past, not recently.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 04:43 PM
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Before formulating a hypothesis you may want to read this one as well: The relationship between increasing women’s earnings and rising divorce rates frequently has been explained by the so-called independence effect: If a wife enjoys a higher earning than her husband does, she gains less from marriage. It has also been argued that in a society with egalitarian gender attitudes this effect is less important. In this paper, we test if the independence effect applies to Sweden, a country in which e…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 04:41 PM
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I know a man, a good man, who is a stay at home dad. His wife mistreats him, goes out partying with co-workers on the weekend while he takes care of the kids 7 days a week. Very sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 04:35 PM
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The problem is not only being a stay-at-home dad, it's just that's the worst possible situation to find yourself in as a man married to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 04:24 PM
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If you investigate this further you will find that is false. Studies show as your relative income falls your risk of divorce increases. The relationship between increasing women’s earnings and rising divorce rates frequently has been explained by the so-called independence effect: If a wife enjoys a higher earning than her husband does, she gains less from marriage. It has also been argued that in a society with egalitarian gender attitudes this effect is less important. In this paper, we test i…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 04:22 PM
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How do the results suggest that? Many studies have proved otherwise. The relationship between increasing women’s earnings and rising divorce rates frequently has been explained by the so-called independence effect: If a wife enjoys a higher earning than her husband does, she gains less from marriage. It has also been argued that in a society with egalitarian gender attitudes this effect is less important. In this paper, we test if the independence effect applies to Sweden, a country in which ega…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 04:19 PM
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Your point being?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/16 04:14 PM
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I know a guy who is a stay at home dad. She dumps the kids on him so she can go party with co-workers on the weekend. Treats him poorly.
/r/MensRights28/07/16 03:10 PM
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That's what happens when they start banning fringe subreddits. I take a very dim view of censorship in most cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 08:51 PM
2

Uhh, no. Meet better people.
/r/MGTOW26/07/16 08:38 PM
2

So in your view incels are uniquely tilted towards lack of open mindedness?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 08:30 PM
2

Sometimes, but they are good people, married to friends of mine or my sister's friend. However I don't associate with white trash that pull stunts like this.
/r/MGTOW26/07/16 08:26 PM
1

Also, if your metric is insufficient people questioning their beliefs then you might as well shut the sub down completely. That is where this line of logic ends.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 08:17 PM
2

Dude, I can feel sympathy for someone while simultaneously recognizing other things. I hate feminism more than anybody, but this is the price you pay for dealing with women under the current system. This is /r/mgtow, not /r/mensrights.
/r/MGTOW26/07/16 07:55 PM
2

I guarantee you there is more to this story than we're being told. I do feel sorry for men who are entraped by women, but that is the price you pay for dealing with lower class women with low moral values. I can spot them easily, no trouble at all. It's not rocket science. I would love to see the laws changed.
/r/MGTOW26/07/16 07:49 PM
1

Some I'm sure have that reaction, just as many other people do when confronted with other views. If a few are open to changing their view or learning, then they are worth some minor discomfort reading post titles.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 07:46 PM
2

Meanwhile you silence the tongue of a lonely incel who is seeking understanding. This goes against the very heart of this sub, which is opening minds to different opinions. The people who lurk here too much are the problem if they are bored.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 07:16 PM
2

I'm not sure I see your point, maybe I've had too much weed today. The fact of the matter is he's either a rapist, tried to rape her, or he's a fool. Take your pick.
/r/MGTOW26/07/16 07:13 PM
4

Incels flocking here should not be discouraged.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 03:25 PM
2

If he couldnt spot crazy pussy he deserves it.
/r/MGTOW26/07/16 07:37 AM
1

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4u6ng6/why_is_everything_such_a_big_deal_why_cant_people/d5oxyrl
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 04:46 AM
3

Dont pay too much attention to things said online.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/16 05:01 AM
2

A man, who by his own admission, that is probably in the top 20% percent of men who are desired by women, and you preach to men who haven't had sex? It doesn't get anymore solipistic than that. Just like women can only see their own point of view and project that point of view onto men. It's like the rich criticizing poor people in the ghetto with a single mother and a bad school system. Check your privilege. You know nothing of the struggles of men in the bottom 50%. It's a joke to think you ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 05:54 PM
3

Wow this is some solipsism if I ever saw it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/16 04:04 AM
2

I seriously doubt dishes was the only problem. Examining a person's life via a post is not that helpful.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 07:56 PM
3

I don't mean divorced women, I mean children conceived out of wedlock.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 07:46 PM
14

Only a woman (solipsism) or a man who has had sex (ignorant) could say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 05:06 PM
1

Being short or even beta isn't a choice, being a whore or single mom is.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 03:06 PM
2

Incredible list, very impressed. Yes it would work on me very easily. The problem is if this is a 'show' she's putting on for you then when the suppression inevitably fails it will be very bitter in his mouth.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 09:15 PM
5

I would rather suffer the consequences of too much freedom than not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 01:21 PM
1

The chick I wanted to date wears a t-shirt "don't be an asshole" with her boyfriend, so I dunno.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 02:16 AM
1

A man in name only.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 10:13 PM
1

I cant solve all the world's problems, only a few major ones that people ignore and stick their heads in the sand on.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 04:17 AM
1

Create better orphanages.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 04:04 AM
1

Have kids early.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 02:40 AM
1

Exactly my point, but that hurts society more than her.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 01:36 AM
1

Too bad for society you mean. We're all in this together, and we all go down together too.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 01:35 AM
1

Nope, too few women will support a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:17 PM
1

Economists all agree that poor demographics hurts an economy. People only disagree on what to do about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:17 PM
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I believe women should not be allowed to go to college until they have 2 children. This would reset the dating market to something similar to the 1950's or 60's, forcing the early mating and marriage to beta men (settling). Women should not be allowed to slut it up to 30 without paying some sort of consequence.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:05 PM
1

Part of feminism is the careless dismissal of traditional values. I am well informed on demographics and economics, I know what the problem is.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:02 PM
1

It is already failing due to too much freedom. My solution will help save us.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:36 PM
1

No, I would not force it, just cant go to college till age 30 like women should be doing. I can dictate what I wish for the greater good.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:09 PM
1

Then they can give their kids up for adoption. The reproductive rate is more important than a few bad mothers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:00 PM
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I deleted my account. The mods know I am an endorsed contributor though. Ask them if you want. I tire of speaking to you, goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 09:58 PM
1

I don't expect agreement, I expect obedience to the law once democracy fails.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 09:19 PM
1

Sometimes it is ideal for the man to stay at home, but not usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 09:18 PM
1

TRP is many things, including the dark enlightenment which is a part of the manosphere. It is you who are ignorant, I used to be an endorsed contributor also, I know a few things about the manosphere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 09:06 PM
1

I would create the incentive by requiring they have children before they can go to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 09:05 PM
1

That is the biological purpose of a woman... they can give the children up for adoption if they can't deal with it, or don't go to college. Not everyone needs to go to college. There are more women in college than men, ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 09:05 PM
1

Many do not find a good man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 07:36 PM
1

You have ignored that the TRP says we are in decline and feminism is responsible. I have only taken that to the next logical place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 07:36 PM
1

Tell that to all the 30+ women struggling to find a long term mate. Society itself is in decline due to insufficient reproduction, see here: https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4tefqa/what_are_the_most_controversial_rp_views/d5gvglq Human sexuality requires control by society to flourish maximally. This is why ancient religions made it a sin to have sex outside marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:50 PM
1

The idea specifically is uniquely mine, but it's well known the RP favors traditional marriages of the past, including identifying modern feminism as responsible for the 'decline' they are supposedly so interested in enjoying. Just google 'enjoy the decline' and the red pill.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:45 PM
1

The AF/BB impulse primarily. Men are self-destructive in other ways that need to be controlled by society.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:32 PM
2

Re-read my OP, it's all there. I will clarify if need be, but you're not paying attention. You're not here to reasonably consider opposing ideas I'm afraid.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 05:29 PM
2

Everything has a beginning and an end, and the end is often by our own choices collectively. We have chosen to decline because of radical feminism and other factors.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 05:25 PM
3

Complex civilizations decline and collapse for many reasons, demographics being one of them. You have no substance to your argument except overpopulation in non-western countries and me being "crazy." Suicide is crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 05:20 PM
2

Billions more will starve when western civilization collapses. We are the hope of mankind because of our ideals and values. That is what makes us great and the rest of the world the gigantic shithole that it will always be until they adopt our philosophies.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 05:18 PM
2

It should make you cringe that your civilization is in decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 05:14 PM
1

19-23. They should couple with men 4-6 years older.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:31 PM
1

It's the way the male characters in the movie are treated, not them being women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:30 PM
1

Not automatically but the slant is there nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:17 PM
1

That girl-power movies are only attractive to male feminists.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:17 PM
1

I rest my case.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:02 PM
1

Controversy creates cash. Not so much in this case, because they only covered about 20% of their expenses producing and advertising in the opening weekend. And China may not even allow the movie to play there at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:01 PM
1

I hear things people say, like the stupid-ass male secretary, the man who screams like a girl. It has a girl-power slant to it that is not appealing to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 03:26 PM
2

I will re-post here because my previous post was deleted by the mods for only being partially related to the red pill. Women should not be allowed to enter college until they have two children. My premise is simple, the Western world is in decline economically, and economics = destiny, like any other failed civilization of the distant past can attest to. When women entered the workforce and higher education in droves in the last generation or two we've seen an amazing burst of GDP growth, throug…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 03:19 PM
1

Not claiming to be a source, only a critic. He's probably identifies as a male feminist.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 03:15 PM
1

Not claiming to be a source, only a critic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 03:14 PM
1

I can't say I find the fiance of the emperor of the blue pill a valid source for movie criticism such as this.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 02:40 PM
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This Ghostbusters movie is banking on hoping men dont like it so they can hold it up as proof that they are "smashing patriarchy" or whatever. Exactly. However keep in mind the primary fan club of ghostbusters was always predominantly men, so the nostalgia required to bring people in required a movie that at least doesn't insult them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 02:39 PM
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TIL comedies cost $250m to make. It's a bit more than a common comedy, it's action and adventure too, among other things like the supernatural element.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 01:18 PM
1

If I want to be insulted I go on /r/politics or places like this. I will not pay for it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 01:17 PM
1

I know enough about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 01:13 PM
1

A bit premature by most analysts thinking. Nobody looks to do anything withouy profit proven.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 01:11 PM
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Lets see if it can even break a profit first. It needs to make about 5 times as much money as it did on opening weekend. Stay tuned. china may not even allow it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 01:02 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4t4ibl/isnt_the_stereotype_that_college_educated_women/d5exgzr
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:58 AM
1

Why am I not surprised?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:50 AM
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Because it's feminist propoganda mascarading as a movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:48 AM
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If the movie was good people would be paying money to watch it (they aren't), yet the critics are rating it higher than the public. This evidence is inescapable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:34 AM
3

That's exactly what the studio and executives on the project did, accused anyone who criticized the movie of misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:31 AM
3

I'm glad that works out for you, but I don't find women or people interesting in general, hard to have a friendship.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:28 AM
1

That's a lot of shit to put up with to get laid, no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:22 AM
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I don't doubt that, the problem is many young men lack this companionship, and are still expected to keep pushing forward careerwise and educationally. It is a wonder to me that more young men don't commit suicide, but video games, porn, and other distractions fill the void sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:21 AM
3

Exactly why I avoid friendships with women. If they're not fucking me I'd rather them simply stay away.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:08 AM
2

That's a disgrace.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:02 AM
3

Hilarious.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:01 PM
1

I probably should understand your point but I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:29 PM
4

That is essentially the argument Hillary is making, vote for me because I'm a woman. That has filtered down into popular media now too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:22 PM
4

As I understand it the monster did have a penis, but I haven't seen it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:11 PM
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That's not the user rating, it's the critics, who are afraid to criticize because they'll be seen as sexist and unpolitically correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:09 PM
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People would care, there's a difference between kicking/punching and destroying someone's genitals, especially if done by a group of the opposite sex. Genital mutilation is not funny. Being kicked in the balls is funny under certain circumstances.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:08 PM
0

55% rating on rotten tomatoes is not a halfway decent review. It's a flop, and $45 million opening is a flop too.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:06 PM
7

What if it was 4 men shooting a female ghost in the vagina?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:03 PM
1

I expect you to quit being sluts and find a good man at a younger age. Stop making your future husbands jerk off to porn in their early 20's while they work hard to build a career that you so desire in a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:01 PM
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How many women have said I wish I could meet you when I'm older? Very sad. Who wants to cuddle a person like that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:00 PM
3

Well that was a disgusting thought.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 04:53 PM
1

Insulting the audience, what could go wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 04:07 PM
1

Indeed, but different.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 07:12 AM
1

Because childbirth is not meant to be appealing, our instinct is to fuck and the natural result is that women get pregnant and stay that way. Many women love motherhood and embrace their place, others never truly will because objectively it's not that fun. Feminism is how societies die.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:41 AM
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When I think of virtue I think of self-sacrifice for others. Women have less need of this, because men are always more expendable. We are the cannon fodder for wars and tribal conflict that goes back millions of years. A man demonstrating virtue proves he is an asset to the group and worthy to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:28 AM
1

Yes this would be ideal.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:18 AM
1

Women are fine, it's society that has fucked up by giving us too much freedom and options. Ancient religions preach sex outside marriage as a sin to control human behavior, and I believe we have gone astray. Women are only following their base insticts to acquire the best sperm they can when they are young, as they have done for millions of years to survive. The problem lies in the fact such instincts run counter to a civilized society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:10 AM
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I say probably because I havent seen a study on narcissism and facebook, but it is very likely, whereas depression is well studied. The depression is associated with comparing your imperfect life to people on facebook who are doing their best to show others how wonderful their lives are, when they often arent that great.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:49 AM
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You're doing a fine job of that yourself, no need for my help.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:45 AM
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Google it, definitely depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:43 AM
2

Women outnumber men in college about 60/40, so somebody is coming up short, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:43 AM
1

I agree, just saying it is rational to discriminate and stereotype.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:40 AM
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I'm not, I havent had sex in 5 years, and I doubt I will anytime soon. Women control the sexual market, they dictate the terms for us. We are just players in their game or actors in their movie.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:38 AM
2

Sounds like a plan for a stable society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:36 AM
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Young men need sex more than women do, so no, we definitely need women more than women need us, and when we are young we have no resources to exchange. Very sad state of affairs today.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:34 AM
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No man wants to raise a bastard that isnt his. Men must be careful when dealing with slutty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:30 AM
2

They often do make bad girlfriends and wives.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:29 AM
6

This is why promiscuity harms society.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:28 AM
1

You are an animal though, governed by contradictory impulses that are often self-destructive.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:24 AM
1

That's why religion created rules, like sex outside marriage as a sin. People need to be controlled or they fuck up.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:20 AM
2

The forthcoming idiocracy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:14 AM
6

This is why facebook usage is associated with depression, and probably increased narcissism.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:13 AM
1

They wont do that anymore. Men are not needed until later in life, and by then it's often too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:12 AM
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Male median income has not increased since the 1970s, coupled with sexual freedom in youth, and this is the result. It's really not anymore complicated than that. My grandfather said he could have never made it through law school if it werent for my grandmother. Now men have no purpose because women dont need them anymore, until it's too late. Very sad really.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:09 AM
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They're too young for that, but it comes.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 05:05 AM
0

Never said women were inferior.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/16 12:33 AM
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Government intervention in the 1800's?
/r/TheRedPill16/07/16 10:15 PM
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First of all I dont' care if they want children or not. Secondly, most women can have children.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/16 10:11 PM
1

Sound monetary principles can result in depression too, as we have experienced in the past.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/16 09:07 PM
1

I am here to teach those open to my knowledge. If you seek those studies, find them yourself like I did. I thought that was obvious based on the above statement!
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 08:52 PM
-1

Everything comes back given enough time if it's what is required to sustain a species.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/16 08:39 PM
2

What? Intelligent women? LOL. Stopped reading right there.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/16 07:55 PM
1

Not so simple in social and political implementation. My proposal is more agreeable to women I expect.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/16 07:51 PM
-1

Why don't you want to study these issues yourself?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 07:46 PM
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I'm sorry not all of us are simpletons like yourself.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/16 07:41 PM
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I would be happy to have someone try to CMV, but I'm not here to change yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 07:23 PM
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Isn't it obvious? If women are forced to have children before entering college, they will not only be forced to settle earlier for a good beta male studying hard in college or in the early workforce, but the reproductive rate will increase, especially for intelligent women who desire higher education.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 07:17 PM
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I'm not going to waste my time digging through studies for your benefit. I am here to teach those open to my knowledge. If you seek those studies, find them yourself like I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 06:51 PM
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Education is a double edged sword. Smarter women are less impulsive and prone to rash decision making, so when they do couple with a man they tend to stick with it, however you have to make more money than her to ensure she doesn't grow restless with the concept of "supporting" a man financially (no matter how smart or successful she is). This dynamic is known to dramatically increase the risk of divorce as a woman's income rises and exceeds that of her husband (at all income levels, poor, middl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 06:16 PM
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Education is a double edged sword. Smarter women are less impulsive and prone to rash decision making, so when they do couple with a man they tend to stick with it, however you have to make more money than her to ensure she doesn't grow restless with the concept of "supporting" a man financially. This dynamic is known to dramatically increase the risk of divorce as a woman's income exceeds that of her husband (at all income levels, poor, middle class, and especially rich). Studies I have read sh…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 03:45 PM
1

Women are filling their bodies with contraceptions too that alter their body's physiology, mentally and physically.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 07:15 PM
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I'm not talking about physical birthing pain, I'm talking about dealing with 5 children who are often misbehaved. I know enough about children to know that you don't want more than 2-3. Rich people follow this path regularly, which means they agree with me, not you.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 07:06 PM
1

It's simply too much to deal with, that's why most people don't have 6 anymore, not just economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 06:57 PM
1

Bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 06:47 PM
1

Imagined reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 04:09 PM
1

The power of the law will drag them into court and they will pay tons of child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 04:08 PM
1

I agree we should, which is why blue pill women need to stop frivolously divorcing their husbands at the first bump in the road, and no fault divorce laws should be struck down by popular acclaim. Until that happens marriage is out of the question with a single woman. Marriage serves to bind a man and empower women over men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:58 PM
1

Pregnancy means a permanent meal ticket from a wealthy man, exactly the opposite!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:55 PM
1

And what of all the single fathers in this world that rarely get to see their children? My expectation is that this will be the result of any coupling with a woman anyway, so this concept is no so far fetched. If I was rich I know a woman would marry me for my money, so why not embrace that with a prostitute harem instead? My kids will love me, all children I've socialized with enjoy my company. When I am with my kids they will have my undivided and genuine interest and love. There will be no re…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:53 PM
2

Try with what girls? Fat or skinny ones? What you mean to say is that they should lower their standards because they are fat, a song that rings false in their ears.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:48 PM
1

I mean they don't impregnate around that much.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:44 PM
1

I wish to have 6 children by 3 women, asking one woman to provide 6 is asking too much. Also, I don't like the idea of attachment to a single person, sort of like putting all your eggs in one basket. Seems foolish if other options are available to me, both genetically speaking and socially. I want them all competing with each other to please me. I want them all to come to my house together and watch fireworks on 4th of july and other holidays. I have big plans for a big family. The children's la…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:44 PM
1

It's not optimal to not have a male in the household daily, but it's a small price to pay. Plenty of people are raised by women exclusively, and I would try to do what I can to help.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:35 PM
1

I may visit twice a week. Whores arent bad people, they provide a service. I would find 3 that seem ready to be mothers and acquire wealth of their own in the process.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:19 PM
1

I do ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:07 PM
0

Theyre whores.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:05 PM
1

Thats not the first time that has been said here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:05 PM
2

Children obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 12:31 PM
1

Like most single fathers who rarely see their children? I know it's not optimal, but it works.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 08:21 AM
1

They would be prostitutes but I would carefully select them. I believe they would be ok with a limited relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 08:20 AM
1

Most women would not appreciate me demanding so many children.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 07:18 AM
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They would deal with the kids during the week and visit my house twice a week each. I would buy each of them their own homes so I dont have to deal with everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 07:16 AM
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Because childbirth is a burden on women, having 6 kids is a problem for one woman. And I like variety in both food and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 07:14 AM
-1

Prenups are not foolproof.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 04:58 AM
2

how is a relationship with 3 women crazy?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 04:58 AM
1

Sure, you have to deal with problems in any relationship potentially.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 04:57 AM
2

Plenty enough would.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 04:57 AM
0

Then you will never know your children. I'd rather have my own harem of women that raise my children and I come visit weekly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 04:56 AM
1

Sure there is, if you want to reproduce.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:17 AM
0

And losing half in divorce over and over is?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:16 AM
1

Who said random? I didn't mean that at all. I'm suggesting like 3 women and 6 children, something reasonable. This is a permanent dread game on all of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 03:15 AM
1

I thought people were moving past such archaic traditions in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 02:28 AM
0

If you have more money than you can spend in a lifetime I don't see why you should share it with only one woman and 1-2 kids, when you can have 3 women and 6 kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 02:27 AM
2

The wealthy often marry down though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 02:26 AM
1

That's a mistake, a holdover from the bible and religion.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 02:26 AM
1

I'm just saying, if I had hundreds of millions I would permanently have 3 women around who just fuck me, and I would reproduce with each, say 6 children total.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 02:25 AM
2

8 is a bit much, but 3 is doable.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 02:23 AM
1

Perhaps not, but such things are difficult to hide.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 02:23 AM
1

I could foresee having a normal relationship with 3 women while having children with each one.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 01:38 AM
2

Yes, but rarely intentionally impregnate them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 01:37 AM
1

Yes but they don't spread their seed to these women, biologically it makes little sense for the wealthy only to reproduce with a single woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/16 01:36 AM
2

No, leaders tend to be older than those that follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 09:58 PM
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Yes, those are predominantly sexually frustrated men who are 18-24 years old. Women at that age can get sex on demand from men of equal or greater hotness.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 09:39 PM
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I have read more than a few in just the past few years. You're not looking very hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 09:33 PM
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It's the other way around, there are plenty of articles written by women bemoaning the fact that there are no good men left for them in their 30's, no men in their 30's are writing such articles.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 09:26 PM
0

Ozymandias, this one cant be all bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 03:02 PM
1

Evolution happens fast
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 02:55 PM
1

Power gets pussy
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 08:26 AM
1

10,000 years isnt recent simpleton. There's nothing civilized about people who lack it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 08:23 AM
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False, some societies dont even have a written language, a most basic thing in a civilization, something apparent to the simplest of minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 08:13 AM
1

An interesting theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 06:40 AM
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They are afraid of the truth and all it implies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 06:21 AM
1

What if such therapy results in no sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 12:14 AM
1

Carkudo the teacher, WTF! LOL!
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 12:13 AM
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Wow, ok, care to provide some evidence? Because if you can prove otherwise that would drastically shift my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 11:12 PM
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If you are a Chad, none whatsoever, only betas care for such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 11:11 PM
1

THat's exactly the argument in favor of national health care, it may not be required to survive but to thrive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 11:07 PM
1

Natural selection can't exist without sexual selection in our species.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 11:04 PM
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But women are as horny as men, remember that falsehood people! The truth is females sexual satisfaction is irrelevant biologically speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 11:03 PM
1

I'm just saying the market dictates much more than you think if prostitution is legal and government assistance exists to help, like it does for people on food stamps.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 11:01 PM
1

Why would i rape someone when more reasonable methods are available?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:56 PM
1

Great resource and essential are often confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:56 PM
1

Average ones perhaps. If there is no environmental or social forcing mechanism then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:49 PM
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Ok I assumed you ate like the average person, not caviar or escargot. They eat like the average person, not a fucking bum.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:47 PM
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Not exactly, alphas can be incredibly intelligent, especially socially, which makes them the natural leaders of mankind, but any good leader knows he needs the knowledge others to be a good leader. Smarter women are the biggest beta buckers you ever saw, the problem is their reproductive capacity is largely gone by the time they come to this awareness, and therefore do not reproduce sufficiently, because society treats them as a man. They are a woman, designed to reproduce and raise the next gen…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:40 PM
1

Hungry people qualify for EBT cards which enable them to buy the same foods you enjoy every day. Dignity demands no less.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:38 PM
1

Good!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:18 PM
1

People don't kill themselves because they're hungry, but men have been known to kill or kill themselves for lack of sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:17 PM
1

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4qyc0l/if_people_are_entitled_to_a_living_minimum_wage/d53g628
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:14 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4qyc0l/if_people_are_entitled_to_a_living_minimum_wage/d53g628
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:14 PM
1

But you could literally kill yourself without sex, as I have contemplated about doing on more than few occasions. So there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:13 PM
1

What you said makes sense to you perhaps, but not at all to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:07 PM
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Too lazy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:07 PM
1

Because patriarchy, lol. Women emotionally manipulate more than men, that is for certain.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:06 PM
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I'm not sure if the top 20% of attractive males applies perfectly, but it's a close guestimate.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 10:05 PM
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First of all, almost no structures in sub-saharan africa, our birthplace, have ever been built prior to euroepan colonization and discovery. The sort of climate these people live in results in this lack of advancement and poor natural selection, comparatively speaking. They must be forced to settle for a beta to advance humanity past this barbaric existence, to create the creature comforts that we all enjoy like modern medicine, air-conditioning, contraception, television, and much much more. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 09:55 PM
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Civilizations understand mathematics, know how to build complex structures, the people discovered in Australia used basic tools and lived as people did countless generations ago. Their primitive nature is a window into our past, how we lived.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 09:50 PM
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I disagree wholeheartedly. They may not want to marry such a man, but they will fuck him for pleasure, frequently.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 09:43 PM
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Presumably in the favor of betas I expect.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 09:37 PM
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True, but women have to be more manipulative, because they lack physical strength. It's a survival trait.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 09:36 PM
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My favorite alpha is fictional, Gannicus in Spartacus. He's a prick, he's a cock, women want to be with him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJtOpDvGoc4
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 09:12 PM
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When the aboriginees were discovered in Australia it was pretty clear they'd been living like humans did long ago for countless generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 09:04 PM
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See Gannicus from Spartacus or Thor for details in recent shows.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 09:02 PM
1

My friend is an engineer, I will ask him if the men at his company are above or below average attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 08:58 PM
1

Which field?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 08:44 PM
1

That may be true in law (which I don't consider a very intellectually demanding study), but it's not true in science, engineering, or anything of real value to society's advancement. Lawyers have a bad reputation like used car salesmen for a reason, and they often end up being shitty politicians too. Corruption, social manipulation, the list goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 08:38 PM
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Many cultures were only discovered by the rest of humanity in the last 50 years. People have dedicated their lives to studying this, the world simply isn't that dangerous to men living in the amazon forest or wherever.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 08:37 PM
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People that dedicate their early life to study don't often have time for the social activities or grooming rituals (working out) that are required to be attractive. That's why there are more unattractive gifted people than attractive, despite your personal anecdotes.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 08:35 PM
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Whoever is on top is always chad, the prime alpha. It's just a matter of whether the ladder is short or tall.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 08:32 PM
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One doesn't need to be Conan to be better than all the alternatives in a group.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 08:30 PM
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I thought about this before, but I don't find it convincing. Life was hard but it was not that hard in the savannas of Africa. When we observe other primitive cultures dumber men don't just get eaten by lions and other shit. If anything it's easier to survive in a warm climate that never freezes. Smart people survive in cold climates because they plan for the future and save enough food for the winter to survive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 08:29 PM
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The price we pay to have exceedingly high functioning minds is that such biological experimentation nature has done to us results in staggering differences between the bottom and the top functionally. Other animals don't display the sort of wide variation we do in intellectual capacity, from one dog to the next or any other animal you study.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 08:14 PM
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Because for most of humanity's history we have been a few steps away from death, therefore we have practiced what are known as 'fast life strategies' for literally millions of years, throughout ice ages, droughts, and all of the rest this world has to offer primitive people who are little more than animals. Subsequently, women are wired to select the genes that are most likely to survive and reproduce. Alphas do this, it's only when humanity begins making advancements like agriculture and all th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 07:52 PM
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Alpha is the men women want to have sex with, beta is the men they settle for only later in life when they're ready to settle down and start a family and leech someone's resources and talent. It's as simple as that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 07:42 PM
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Because a doctor is expected to understand the biological foundations that built modern medicine into what it is today, not just memorize what prescription to give someone based on their symptoms. By demonstrating you can pass such a course it strongly suggests you will make it through med school's hardcore memorization.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 07:37 PM
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Not totally fixed, but to a large extent it is fixed, because it's highly heritable. This is a scientific fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 07:21 PM
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I wish I could lower my standards and enjoy myself like you. You really don't know how good you have it. I am my own worst enemy it seems. People are an amalgamation, I would never argue otherwise, but alpha fucks beta bucks exists as a female mating phenomenon, that much is certain. People use stereotypes because they often work in place of imperfect information.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 07:20 PM
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And you think that one man was able to dominate the sexual market? Why would the rest of the men go along with that deal when they can band together and kill him or drive him away?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 07:17 PM
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Maybe Trump will change that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 06:54 PM
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IQ is not just raw processing power, a super computer easily outstrips what our minds can process in raw terms, but they've yet to create a super computer than can design it's next iteration. IQ is about abstract thought, deep understanding, making connections in complex systems, etc. Emotional and social intelligence are feminine forms of intelligence, but they are of less value to an advanced society such as our own.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 06:53 PM
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I have never considered this, but the Hispanics I know tend to be very friendly, yes. Very happy people in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 06:51 PM
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Spoken like someone who hasn't taken organic chemistry, essentially a wash out course in any good college.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 06:50 PM
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I read once that it requires a minimum IQ of 115 to become a doctor or scientist. That's hardly irrelevant. It's not just an ability to learn faster, but a capacity to do so at all. And if it takes you 20 years to finish medical school, what's the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 06:36 PM
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It was certainly advantageous for him, not sure about his soldiers though.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 06:35 PM
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This is formally known as the Flynn Effect and it has largely stopped in the US and other advanced societies. Clean water, good nutrition, health care, and basic education, etc, provided this, but those benefits are largely baked into the cake at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 06:30 PM
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Everything is naturally selected in it's own way, even women chasing chad today or beta bucking. That's why we're heading towards an idiocracy, gradually but surely, and society will eventually collapse under the weight of feminism or be replaced by other cultures that still control female sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 06:18 PM
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I would consider people like Michael Jordan intelligent, but differently, he's athletically intelligent, but such athleticism is of limited value to society except as a form of entertainment. The same goes for thugs who have become wealthy performing rap music. However these people are not likely to score high on a standard IQ test, and with good reason. Mate attraction in Africa obviously selected for different aspects of human intelligent that could be easily demonstrated to women, but since A…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 06:16 PM
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Nothing overrides biology, but there is clearly a symbiosis between culture and biology, they interact together in a complex fashion.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 06:13 PM
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That may be changing soon though, as scientists become increasingly brave about violating political correctness in the future. One can hope that scientists become scientists again instead of cultural and political pawns.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 06:11 PM
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Yet the Romans regarded such people as little more than barbarians. I accept they were intelligent in northern europe, but they lacked the culture to make use of it fully or as quickly as the Romans or Greeks. As the last ice age ended such people were at a strong disadvantage in the short run being in an excessively cold region in terms of civilization building, but the extreme stress of this cold environment produced superior human beings in the long run compared to people living closer to the…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 06:07 PM
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That's just absolutely false, they are not perfect but they measure something that is real. Everybody does not have high scores, don't believe what people claim. The test has to be culturally biased to some extent, because we have an advanced culture and the test correlates with success in similarly advanced societies, unlike primitive cultures found in Africa and other places with very low functional societies.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:57 PM
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You're arguing for fast evolution, something I am not opposed to theoretically, but it's far from mainstream at the moment.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:49 PM
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I believe intelligence is attractive to women under certain circumstances, but the environment dictates this and that informs the culture. Our current environment has freed women of their dependence on beta male intelligence to a large degree, ergo they have reverted to a more animalistic or primitive selective mating process, which will over time likely reduce the intelligence of our society until it collapses. Essentially women's lizard brains think we live in the garden of eden, free of conce…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:47 PM
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This is a case where the law of averages makes it very unlikely that someone is both very intelligent and attractive. After millions of years of fucking chads shouldn't we all be attractive by now?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:42 PM
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Which begs the question, how did humanity sever itself from other primates and begin to advance brain size and intelligence? Clearly we were highly selecting for IQ millions of years ago too when this occurred.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:39 PM
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Above average perhaps, but above average is not that great. It's estimated you need an IQ of 115 to perform the kind of studies required to become a doctor or scientist for example. That's a full standard deviation above the mean, and that's saying nothing of the extremely intelligent 130+ which is very rare.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:35 PM
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This is certainly true, however our intelligence pre-dates the agricultural era by millions of years compared to other species. We are so much more intelligent than other animals that the selective pressures driving higher intelligence must have been extreme at some point in our distant past.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:32 PM
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The problem with this theory is that there are not enough of these men to perpetuate a species and keep a group socially cohesive where the average men don't kill the few men at the top for women. It's also inconsistent with the genetic evidence that suggests about 40% of men reproduced compared to 80% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:30 PM
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Social intelligence is a feminine trait because it's partially manipulative. The types of intelligence that produce engineers, scientists, and doctors may co-exist with such traits, but they are very different. I know socially intelligent people who can't do math for shit for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:29 PM
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Compared to a dog or an ape, it is clear we are more intelligent. This is common sense that I hoped people would grasp.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:27 PM
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We like symmetry because it implies we are healthy, it's just an indicator of fitness to reproduce and to pass that trait on to children who will be more likely to reproduce and attract mates. Poverty causes low IQ in some cases, but it's not as powerful a driver as people make it out to be. All the data supports this which I have studied in the past. The richest black children in school do less well on standardized testing compared to the poorest white trash for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:26 PM
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Which may be helpful in understanding why our society seems to be in decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:24 PM
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No, but I think there was a great deal of nonconsensual sex in the past. Fast life strategies lead to such things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:23 PM
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Yes they do, but child rearing is of equal value in terms of raising a high functioning individual compared to genes. You can be the most intelligent woman in the world but if you don't take care of your children they are likely to suffer or struggle in life. The IQ of a man is of great value in terms of what it can provide for a woman's offspring and future generations. Women's intelligence is not attractive to the average man precisely because the utility of her intelligence is not equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:21 PM
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I never assumed this or implied it. Most people are average.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:19 PM
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I seriously doubt this is true. Very few people are blessed with high intelligence and high attractiveness.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:18 PM
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I accept this, but if you look at some of the most gifted people intellectually in our species or society you will see they are not very attractive to women. This is counter-intuitive because our species is the most intelligent on the earth. Logic dictates we have a long history (millions of years) of strongly selecting for such intelligence as well as survival ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:17 PM
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While also being predominantly black, which means they have below average intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:16 PM
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Agreed, however people have to make use of imperfect information to draw conclusions, that's why humans use stereotyping.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:15 PM
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I didn't mean to imply they were mutually exclusive traits, but they rarely found together in large quantities. Some of the smartest people I know are not that great with women, certainly not chads. Social intelligence may correlate, but I suspect weakly so.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:14 PM
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Are you saying it required great intelligence to avoid being killed by a tiger? What of other animals that lack our intelligence?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:13 PM
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Everybody should be able to get an education, nothing special about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:12 PM
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TRP teaches me to be successful with women without career success, or so they argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 05:10 PM
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Because women's purpose historically is to reproduce, not build great structures or invent new inventions. They had no opportunity to demonstrate their intelligence in society and be rewarded for it with wealth and status that might attract such men. Their high IQ is best used raising the next generation and as teachers, a fact still true today.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:39 PM
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If there is a biological need or nitch available, nature provides via natural selection. At some point our selective processes diverged from other animals we are related to with far less intelligence. Logic dictates women selected for higher IQ starting millions of years ago, not a few thousand.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:32 PM
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Of that I am aware given certain obvious racial inferiorities in this world.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:27 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:26 PM
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Are you sure? https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Tesla_circa_1890.jpeg Even if so, most great men of science were not ladies men like chads. Poetry is not something I consider of great value.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:26 PM
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I'm not sure you understand natural selection and evolution. Of course humanity selected for high intelligence at some point in our past as a species.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:23 PM
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Women don't chase men with highly functional minds that are a value to society until they have money, alpha fucks, beta bucks exists.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:21 PM
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Point taken she probably is a washed up gold digger.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:19 PM
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You must be quite hot then. Can you point to a chad in history that achieved great things for science or human advancement? Surely such examples are the exception that doesnt disprove the rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:13 PM
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Height implies good nutrition and family structure that provides it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:10 PM
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When in history did the repression of women's animalistic sexual selection take place, and was that long enough to produce an advanced civilization?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:08 PM
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This is sufficent and very interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:06 PM
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She was also an architect, so not exactly dumb and needy. She should have made enough money modeling for a lifetime. Certainly she has done better by hitching her wagon to Trump, but that alone doesnt justify the age difference imo.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:05 PM
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TY
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:02 PM
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Chad may not be dumb, but he's no Einstein or someone of exceeding intelligence. He's probably solidly average with above average physique and womanizing ability.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:01 PM
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Source on height and IQ please.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 02:59 PM
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She never needed his money as I said, so I doubt that. She was a very successful model, made her own wealth.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 02:54 PM
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Interestingly, Trump's wife says she fell in love with his mind as a much younger and already wealthy woman. She doesnt strike me as the gold digger type.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 02:45 PM
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TBP produces men who are not really manlike, is it any wonder they happily fuck below their level too? Sad people who cant see the plight of the modern man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 02:28 PM
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While possessing a far less potent sexual appetite to begin with, a curious creature to be sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 02:25 PM
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That's the problem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 02:22 PM
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By a below average woman, yes. The modern man must dig in the gutter to eat.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 03:42 AM
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When society enforces political correctness like that it leads to a boiling undercurrent of people like this. However, I just read women today are as heavy as men in the year 1960, so that goes both ways gals. I am disgusted by fat people and I think it's a normal and healthy revulsion, but I would never denigrate a person for being fat in front of them. The internet lowers this inhibition because it's impersonal.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 02:11 PM
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Well if you want to participate in this forum you should acquaint yourself with the subject matter first.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 06:47 PM
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All the proof you need is the law in the Netherlands providing vouchers for sex for the disabled and that there are non-disabled people who would benefit similarly. You could also argue that lack of sex could result in mental illness too. Have you read much of /r/theredpill? All the evidence is there. My proposal is absolutely reasonable in an era of alpha fucks, beta bucks, and omega no fucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 06:38 PM
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Food stamps are spent on a wide variety of foods I eat every day. They're simply not nearly as limited as you're making them out to be (quite the opposite really), and stamps no longer exist, it's a debit card now. So I reject your argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 03:44 PM
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Less than 3% of men never have sex. That's why I said "little to no capacity." For example, I had sex once, but it's been 10 years since then. She was morbidly obese and suffering severe depression as a result of her mother dying of cancer. Win for me yes?! Wrong! They only provide sex. That's enough for me! And if that's true millions of others like me will agree.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 03:31 PM
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non disabled people have a reasonable ability to improve their situation That's what you're failing to comprehend about my argument. I can point to many people who are not technically disabled who have little to no capacity to find companionship or even sex, and there are enough out there that it justifies giving vouchers to everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 03:21 PM
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I am aware of the law, I'm arguing the non-disabled should get vouchers too. You're failing to grasp this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 02:55 PM
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An inability to fish is not an exclusive trait of only the physically or mentally disabled.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 02:49 PM
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No, but I have about as much sex as disabled people, so I don't really see your point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 01:33 PM
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European countries pay for the disabled to have sex with prostitutes, I wonder why.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 06:37 AM
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That's strange, because my uncle waited years to adopt a child and spoke of the barriers involved. The bottom line is such inferior people should not be reproducing anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 05:16 AM
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If it were for the kids they would take them from the mother who can't provide, and put them up for adoption for the thousands and thousands of good families who can't have children of their own. Stopped reading right there by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/16 05:13 AM
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If I won the lotto I would have a harem like the world has never seen in the US at least.
/r/MGTOW05/07/16 04:37 AM
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The voice of reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 06:00 PM
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Good talk.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 03:25 PM
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Here you go http://psr.sagepub.com/content/5/3/242.short Enjoy that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 03:20 PM
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Found in like 10 seconds. http://www.webmd.com/sex/features/sex-drive-how-do-men-women-compare
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 03:01 PM
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All the science disagrees with you. Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 02:46 PM
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Mental health is just as important as physical health.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/16 06:28 AM
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I'm glad you find the concept of human rights and dignity amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 11:03 PM
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The only people who don't think sex is a need are those who have regular access to it. Check your privilege.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 10:56 PM
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$100 per week is more than I spend on food. That would be 20% of the income, but we don't have a $15 minimum wage and it's doubtful we will anytime soon. Meanwhile poor and ugly men are unable to find mates in any bar. This violates their humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 10:54 PM
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Reasonable means legal and constitutional. The government can't do things that violate the constitution, that is the framework of our society. So when we mandate health care as an entitlement, we tax and spend money, we don't kidnap doctors and force them to treat the homeless. We don't enslave people because Americans have a right to a certain standard of living.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 10:51 PM
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No you can't, certainly not on backpage.com. I've looked extensively. $100 is about the minimum.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 10:48 PM
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Why wouldn't I?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 10:40 PM
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Wrong taxation is a form of Government force. If it's not optional it is forced by definition. People have an entitlement for health care, and we use taxation force to accomplish this.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 10:39 PM
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Women are too picky is the only explanation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 10:37 PM
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He doesn't speak for me, and I doubt I'm alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 10:36 PM
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Care to look for a prostitute charging less than $100 for 30 minutes? I challenge you to find one. Check backpage.com. If you call that cheap we live very different lives. Incels can't get one night stands so I don't see why you brought that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 10:06 PM
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Wow with all the sex crime in the catholic church I can't believe you're using that as an example. And nuns are women! Women cope with lack of sex better than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 10:04 PM
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Yes, the government is using force, it's called taxation, as I said. That is all the force that is reasonable to use! Give it a rest. You can't use people for your own purposes. Your rights end where my rights begin! Your argument is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 10:03 PM
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As I said, bad assumption, meaning incorrect. I neglected to mention them for brevity.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 10:01 PM
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Slavery ended a long time ago bro, you're off on the wrong track. Entitlements today involve redistribution of wealth and services. That's what I mean by entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:38 PM
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I didn't say anything about women, bad assumption.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:34 PM
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That is a matter of life and death, so yeah, debt in that case makes sense as opposed to just committing suicide. I absolutely admit there is a need for free emergency medical services, but there is also a need for sex, and they are not equivalent but sex should not be ignored as it is now as a want and not a need.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:30 PM
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Don't believe everything you read, especially here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:28 PM
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Medical debt is not collectible like credit card debt or mortgage debt. No I will just silently suffer as an incel because society deems my needs as worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:27 PM
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I literally could not get a hard on with some of the hoes I've seen on backpage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:26 PM
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No you don't believe in equality at all. When a man is less equal than a woman it's tough shit, he should suck it up and move on. When a woman is less equal than a man society does something to address it and balance things. Women routinely get sex easily AND free because men are willing to pay for dates and such. Equal opportunity is the cornerstone of many aspects of society, including access to work, rent, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:24 PM
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Not extremely attractive no, but they can't be absolutely hideous, which is what very cheap prostitution essentially is or would be after legalization. At least your homeless guy gets to eat, but my penis never gets to be used as it was intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:21 PM
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I don't think it's reasonable to compare access to regular sex and a vacation, but I can see how someone who has access to regular sex takes it for granted. Once you go 5-10 years without sex you will understand like incels do. No we should not castrate incels, I'm saying we take care of animals better than people. We castrate animals so they don't suffer with a high sex drive and nothing they can do about it. We should be able to do better for people. I will not pay for sex, society must pay in…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:18 PM
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I don't think that's fair, because women have greater access to free sex on demand. Sexual wealth needs to be redistributed in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:16 PM
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I can survive in solitary confinement too but that's regarded as cruel punishment and I'll probably wish I was dead eventually. Women will never understand the male sex drive.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:13 PM
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Reasonably entitled to sex to me means access to prostitutes who are willing, not raping people, but maybe that's me. It's not an all or nothing deal. All we can do is the best we can.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:12 PM
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At least the people on foodstamps don't have to dig through the trash to eat. They get to buy the same fresh food we all do at the store. That would be a better analogy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:09 PM
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fucking a whore isn't going to do that. So which is it? No, but mentally it's therapeutic for a human male to be sexually active rather than an incel. This is common sense. Biologically we are driven to reproduce, so we need sex to be fulfilled in life. This is partly why we neuter dogs and cats when we have no intention of letting them mate or reproduce, because it's inhumane not to neuter them. In some ways we treat animals with more compassion than human beings with more complex emotions and …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:06 PM
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Last I checked it was not all that cheap in Amsterdam. Maybe you could have sex with someone absolutely hideous, but that would be less mentally fulfilling than porn and masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:03 PM
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Come on over and have a drink and I'll see if I can provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:02 PM
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Spoken like someone who is not an incel, you have no basis to say what I need because you already have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:01 PM
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Mentally not all people are capable of performing college level coursework. A basic minimum wage has no chance of allowing for regular sex, not even once a week.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 09:00 PM
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Because its always the people who never have to deal with the situations judging people dealing with them. Really? That's ironic because I feel like I'm not being judged favorably in this thread because I'm of the opinion that sex is a human need and the Government should be there to help me meet that need. These people all probably regularly have sex therefore they have no basis to judge me or my needs. Also, the burger flipping jobs will be extinct soon anyway due to automation. Actually I'm i…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:59 PM
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Ah, I see why you are confused, you substitute real data for flawed anecdotal information among your peer group, something TBP is usually slapping TRP's wrist for doing. Of course I am talking about averages, that doesn't change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:54 PM
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Do I really need to dig up the studies on male and female sex drives and everything else on my mobile?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:41 PM
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You've lost me completely. Everything I stated is a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:39 PM
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That would be ideal, but women have a lower sex drive and a disproportionate access to free sex, ergo there is significantly less demand for male prostitutes in society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:38 PM
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I mean there many are people who believe college should be free, such as Bernie Sanders supporters. More people believe in raising the minimum wage to something you can live on. If these are reasonable proposals, mine is as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:36 PM
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You mean nobody should be entitled to anything I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:35 PM
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The non-working class, which is expanding by the way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:34 PM
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How are my so-called 'advantages' relevant to this discussion?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:33 PM
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Your logic is impeccable. Kuddos!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:30 PM
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But a $15 minimum wage, free college, and free healthcare is reasonable... ok, I don't see how.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:24 PM
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Some things are easier to lie to yourself about. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:18 PM
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They are using force, via taxation. There's a big difference between taxing someone and forcing someone to volunteer for rape. You're being absurd. I believe in doing what we can as a society to satisfy men's need for sex, not 100% of men, but as close as reasonably possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:16 PM
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I don't think you can say that, mentally it's important to have sexual function as a human being. Most people would not be fully functioning adults without it. If people can believe in Jesus most of them can believe in the prostitute too. You just have to want to believe. That's probably why I'm not into it, but I can see why some people are.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:11 PM
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I thought that much would be obvious to the simplest of minds. I'm not writing a fucking research paper here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:09 PM
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There will always be some unfortunate reject of humanity living under a bridge or whatnot, we can't solve every problem, all we can do is try to solve as many as reasonable possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:08 PM
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Point taken, it is sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:06 PM
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Spoken like someone who is not an involuntary incel. Who are you to say what I need when you have what you need and take it for granted? HUBRIS!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:04 PM
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It's not necessary to force people to have sex when they will take money quite readily to perform the deed. So no, that's foolish.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 08:03 PM
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Applying simple logic to the current political and social environment. What are you doing?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:59 PM
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Why not? Would you be ok living your entire life without sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:57 PM
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Nor do they need free healthcare, only critical care at an emergency room which was always available to people before. There are many ways a person can survive, you can lock me up in solitary confinement and I will probably survive, but eventually I will wish I was dead.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:55 PM
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I can imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:54 PM
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forcing a woman to pair up with you Plenty of people are happy remaining single their entire lives but rarely are people happy being incelibate, let alone involuntarily so. I'm afraid I have to disagree there. I think it should be a right to see a doctor You always had a right to go to the emergency room, you just might end up with some debt as a result of lacking health insurance. Again, it's not about survival, it's about wealth transfer from the haves to the have nots.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:53 PM
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So sex with a prostitute is really analogous to foie gras cooked by a world famous chef? If you haven't had sex in 5-10 years, maybe that might be true for some people, but for everybody else it's a normal thing that people take for granted because they have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:48 PM
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It's not a luxury, it's a biological function required to sustain a species. It's why we neuter dogs and cats, because it's the humane thing to do when we have no intention of letting our pets mate with other animals. We treat humans with more respect, but not much more. Also, most healthcare is not life threatening. Source: I lived without healthcare most of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:45 PM
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Our lizard brain doesn't know we're wearing a condom, all it knows is penis in vagina is good to go.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:43 PM
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I am not into that thing personally, but I was bringing it up for the purposes of discussion. Clearly there is a market out there for men who desire this, because I've seen posts about it frequently. But once I fuck a prostitute I am done with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:42 PM
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If you are poor legal prostitution doesn't help you one bit. You're still a hopeless incel.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:41 PM
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Sex is a need, but the girlfriend experience is icing on a cake, that's why it's more money. However if people are willing to pay I'm all for it. I am starting out with a reasonable proposal/request.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:40 PM
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Some people settle for chuck steak, others prefer filets and ribeyes. If she's not drop dead gorgeous she's really not worth fucking anyway, but you've convinced yourself otherwise. Are you sure who is sad here?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:38 PM
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Sex is a biological function required to sustain a species, and you're comparing it to drinking beer.... wow! And for the record I've tried alcoholism, it's not fun, so I don't recommend it as a replacement for sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:34 PM
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No, I wrote 15 an hour because that's the generally agreed number that people point to when they talk about a living wage. Also, if you want a full girlfriend experience prostitute it could run you $500-1000 for the whole night.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:32 PM
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$15 LOL, yeah, you have no idea. Try $100-$200.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:29 PM
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There's a good reason why there are way more female prostitutes than male prostitutes. Your analogy is flawed. We're not talking about forcing anybody to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:27 PM
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Even at $15 an hour I doubt most people could afford to have sex more than once a month with a prostitute. Involuntary incelibacy is unacceptable and causes real harm to society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:25 PM
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He may have a penis but that doesn't make him a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:19 PM
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Once a week seems reasonable, the state should pay if I can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:17 PM
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Because it's a need, just one you don't identify with due to your gender.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:13 PM
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That's how women commit suicide, men use guns and other lethal methods. Plenty of men also drink themselves to death or turn to other hard drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 07:12 PM
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Lack of sex is not going to result in misery You really haven't been paying attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 06:56 PM
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Not necessarily, they are expensive, plus illegal. And not everyone has college level skills, quite a few in fact don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 06:54 PM
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Sex is a need, ergo entitled.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 06:53 PM
1

I doubt you speak for most.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 06:53 PM
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Fascinating
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 06:27 PM
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Not all healthcare is life threatening, indeed MOST of it isn't. People have been giving birth to children without the aid of a hospital for millions of years prior to the last century. I think you should pay for me to fuck, because it is my right as a human being. Source: I lived without healthcare most of my life!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 06:21 PM
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If I have to pay for illegal immigrants to have babies in the US, health care for all, $15 minimum wage that people are clamoring for, and much more, why not prostitutes for men? There would be less rape and sexual violence in society as a result too, so it's a win/win for both genders. All men should be entitled to have sex once a week. If that seems absurd to you, you haven't been paying attention to cultural shifts and politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 05:56 PM
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You know what they say about opinions and assholes?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 05:47 PM
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Generalizations are not always wrong, on the contrary, they are often based in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 05:45 PM
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Spoken like someone who has very little experience with professional prostitutes. Many professional prostitutes specialize in girlfriend experiences too.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 05:43 PM
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That's an opinion, I could argue it's a basic human need, like those that want free health care and a $15 minimum wage.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 05:33 PM
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Prostitution is one of the oldest known professions in human history for a good reason. If masturbation satisfied people they wouldn't be competing so hard to bang a 10 or pay someone hundreds of dollars for an hour of their time. It's a giant jerkoff, quite literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 05:22 PM
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Society has a duty to restrict personal freedoms when they infringe on the freedoms of others or harm society in some way. For example, if women suddenly decided to stop having children because it's too much trouble then extreme measures would be called for, such as disbarring women from entering college without reproducing first, banning abortion and contraception, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 05:16 PM
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I think you're thinking about omegas. Betas make the world go round.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 05:12 PM
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That's because a good prostitute is not cheap, the state should pay for it for the unintended consequences of all this sexual freedom they've unleashed on society. A good prosti makes you think she wants you.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 05:05 PM
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No just stating a fact. Your offspring don't care if you orgasm or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 05:00 PM
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Not if state sanctioned prostitution existed and was legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 04:59 PM
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Are you kidding? They're slutty and unladylike, they're more narcissistic than ever before, they're more materialistic than ever before, they put their careers and money ahead of the welfare of their children, they wait forever to have kids and get married, they ride the alpha cock then settle for a beta once they're worn out sexually, the list goes on and on. Shall I continue?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 04:58 PM
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There is always prostitution, but some might argue having sex with someone being paid is not fulfilling in the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 04:54 PM
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Plenty of people feel entitled to things today, like health care, food, housing, etc, why not sex too?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 04:51 PM
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Do they hate women or hate what they have become in recent generations? Big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 04:48 PM
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Biologically speaking it's not as important for a woman to enjoy sex as much as a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 04:45 PM
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What they fail to comprehend is that sex for a man is a matter of his own self-esteem. If he isn't having it there's clearly something wrong with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 04:43 PM
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Uhhh, no, SAT scores are simply what they are, despite disagreements over IQ testing bias. Most black people are woefully unprepared for college. Facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 01:33 AM
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The persistent white/black IQ gap and educational scores on standardized tests don't lie. Their culture is cancer, like many others in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 10:31 PM
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Equality of rights, but not equality of outcomes, educationally or whatever metric you want to look at. They're like a 3rd world nation/culture living inside another one, separate and eternally ignorant.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 09:20 PM
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Because black people have made so much progress, right.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 08:21 PM
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Hard to say given the sorry state of the black community today in places like Detriot, Baltimore, and South Chicago.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 08:17 PM
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Exactly the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 07:13 PM
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So what? Create new incentives that don't include war. It's that simple. And not everything about the culture was absolutely defined and created via conflict.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 05:27 PM
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Not true, shit runs down hill. Their society was far from perfect but in many ways is superior to our own.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 04:46 PM
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They had those values prior to war and they kept them long afterwards, that is, until the 'me' generation started to graduate from high school. However if the power of the state is required to return us to something resembling that era, so be it, because this one will only lead to doom in the next 50-100 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 04:43 PM
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Because all things considered, being a woman is not that much fun. Giving birth is hard, caring for kids is hard, and the payoff is not immediate, but way down the road. Women are also all wrapped up in social media thinking their best friends have amazing lives while they sit around miserable and turn on their boyfriends and husbands. It's the 'me' generation taken to an extreme.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 04:40 PM
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The bar is meant to be alarmingly low, that's why men have a higher sex drive to compensate. This facilitates maximized reproduction.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 04:38 PM
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There are a lot of things that should come before happiness in my view, such as duty, honor, sacrifice, loyalty, to one's nation and to the ideals that underlie our society. The last generation to understand this concept lived during WW2. Very sad people today all wrapped up in themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 04:36 PM
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Eggs never fertilizes are pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 03:28 PM
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I couldnt care less what people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/16 02:26 AM
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They are, but they do not have children like they should, ergo the power of the state must step in to encourage reproduction for the good of society.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/06/16 12:13 AM
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If you read the article they had to get rid of the feminists to accomplish their post-feminist society. Most women do not work full time in the Netherlands. This is the way it should be everywhere so they can be mothers. And one of the things about the Dutch, they don't provide much childcare.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 11:48 PM
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Raising the birth rate must take precedence over the stability of the marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 11:47 PM
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If that data existed I would have heard about it on here. The facts are sluts are either bad people or what they do makes them bad people, but at the end of the day we know sluts tend to be bad for relationships. Nothing can escape this fact. I care about the next generation more than I do about the pointless and frivolous sexual activities of 20-somethings, or indeed whether someone is happy or not, but the facts are women are less happy today than they were 30-40 years ago. There is sufficient…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 05:22 PM
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Not every western country is so influenced by banking elites. Yet they all have the same problem with feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 03:34 PM
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There is no data on male sluts and divorce risk I am aware of. You have no proof that would-be sluts would end up unhappy or divorced if forced to marry early. sluts need to reproduce, that is the purpose of a woman for society.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 03:32 PM
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Many can be blamed on feminism.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 03:24 PM
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Doesnt matter really, at the end of the day a slut still isn't loyal. The graphs tell us something is very wrong in the mind of a slut. That is all we need to know to begin to make judgments about people.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 03:23 PM
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The only world the matters to me is the western world, no median income increase for the middle class since 2001, record numbers of young people outside the workforce, weakest economic growth coming out of a recession in living memory. The list goes on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 03:16 PM
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Search correlation between divorce and number of premarital partners. Im sure you will find it.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 03:12 PM
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Given what is happening today as society unravels, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 03:10 PM
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Yes, we continue to move forward and fly but we have no thrust. We're gliding on the past carrying us forward still. You seem confused.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 03:09 PM
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There is evidence too.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 03:07 PM
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There is an interia to things, for sure, but that doesn't mean we're not in a state of decay or decline. This is the first generation of parents who don't believe their children will have a better life than they did. Real median income in the US has not increased since 2001. The number of young people who have given up on finding work hasnt been as high in at least 30 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 11:18 AM
1

No, read again.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 11:03 AM
1

That is my point, your example from Hawaii is invalid due to the climate being excessively mild. This hits home with my point before, men will be men if they are forced or encouraged to be, either by environmental conditions or by social pressure (or more likely both). Culture is affected by the environment too. Such cultural and environmental conditions persisted in Europe for thousands of years, which is why Western culture finds itself at the apex of human civilizational development, whereas …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 01:18 AM
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There's no evidence women were scarce among the Vikings or any other ancient European culture with strong men who provided for their families. Western society could not have progressed to where we are today without such men. Citing isolated examples from very primitive societies does not prove men are by nature lazy. Rather it is evidence that climates that are mild tend to result in deficient cultures and genetics among the population. Although, as the TBP says, show me the study!
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 01:02 AM
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There is no evidence men in western culture have a history of laziness. Who do you think tamed the wild west? What you are identifying there could be purely cultural and/or a result of excessively mild climate history. Hawaii is regarded as a human paradise after all. However such societies will never become complex with men being lazy, that's why such examples tend to be close to the equator with mild climates. Whereas harsh environmental conditions logically tend to breed better people, but th…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/16 12:35 AM
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There is no evidence men are inclined towards laziness. This is a social phenomena that did not exist in the 1950's or earlier generations. Men were like rocks because they had to be, and they can be again with the proper social pressure and reward systems in place. As it stands there is no reason to grow up as a man, pussy is everywhere and those that can't get pussy have other outlets like games, porn, and Reddit. This is the unintended consequence of unrestrained sexual freedom. As man declin…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 11:58 PM
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This is because feminism has taught men they don't have to grow up. The incentives are all gone. When they can't get laid without being a reliable partner in marriage they will find a way to transition better. Society must function closer to what existed in the 1950's. Men must be taught from an early age that it's their duty to protect and cherish women, and men who abandon a family should be reviled by society with scorn. And women must be taught their primary function is to be a good mother f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 11:47 PM
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Perhaps not, but in my case it did matter, and I'm sure it matters to many other children out there. The point is it's not that simple, divorce is often not the best option for a child just because the parents are disgruntled. They must work harder than they might like to resolve these things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 10:54 PM
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Some people will always be miserable, but their suffering is a small price to pay for the continuation of western society and prosperity. My parents didn't like each other either, but they stayed together for the children, which I am thankful for. I feel sorry for people raised by single mothers that often take the easy route out of a difficult situation rather than working hard to resolve it. People think if they are unhappy today that they have to GTFO, and it's not always the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 10:47 PM
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I believe it impairs future pair bonding with whatever mate you end up with, essentially. The chemicals released in the brain during sex are designed to help you couple and bond to that person, facilitating successful family formation. This is not something to be treated whimsically. I also oppose pre-marital sex because it discourages early pair bonding with your future husband or wife. This is associated with many failures in our society, including but not limited to sub-replacement level repr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 10:23 PM
1

That's why I insist they have their children before they go to law school or jump into corporate america. I'll even pay for the free college afterwards, but women must fulfill their biological function in society for us all to thrive in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 10:17 PM
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First thing I would do to address this is make a national law mandating that an equal amount of money must be spent on every child in public school. Secondly, I would adopt free education in college for mothers who have two children and serve their country's future. It would be very hard for a woman to ever be financially independent. That is not the overriding issue, what is at stake is the decline of western civilization. I see no overarching concern with women being semi-dependent on men fina…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 10:12 PM
1

I have a simple solution there, end no fault divorce. It's for the kids sake, not you. Women are waiting so long to get married and have kids that they often times have difficulty getting pregnant. There are hard biological constraints involved here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 10:08 PM
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I used to be an endorsed contributor on TRP, I know a few things.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 09:46 PM
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No, but the status quo is arguably worse for society. That's why some women need to have 3-4 children to make up for gaps that will always be there. Instead we have the gaps, and it's typical to have 1 or 2 today, unacceptable. Society has to ask more from our own people. We must stop outsourcing our jobs and our fertility to parts of the world that are so horrible towards women and others.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 09:04 PM
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This is a cultural issue, not a racial one. Western society is dying because women have given up on reproduction. The signs are all around us that feminism is our slow march towards the death of our culture, like the Romans before us, and so many other dead cultures of the past. The left enjoys taking a dump on our history, but it's clear our society is superior to others and worthy of saving, otherwise other cultures that oppress women will simply replace us over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 08:59 PM
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Most of the western world suffers from under-reproduction, including many notable examples like Germany and Japan. The gaps are only filled with immigration from parts of the world that are far more authoritarian towards women than I would ever dream of being. The solution is to build a society that is self-sufficient biologically speaking and can thrive economically. But women have failed to perform their most basic biological function, logic dictates the power of the state is now regrettably r…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 08:52 PM
0

Correct. Too many professional women fail to reproduce before they are barren. This is a great burden on society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 08:42 PM
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Yes this is true, but because some of these women never work full time jobs indicates they are operating on a similar parallel with our past, as these women will need to hitch up early in life to a reliable partner to live a good life. I assure you the chad thundercocks in Dutch society don't do as well sexually speaking.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 08:40 PM
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18 year old women should marry recent college graduates or slightly older men in blue collar jobs (21-23 years old). I know the sex-starved, hardworking college man or mechanic will approve. The people who will disapprove are women and the douchebags and deadbeats (Red Pill-types) they lust over.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 08:31 PM
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It is, and it's wise to take a look at a notable exception to this trend, and what is different about their society. It turns out the Dutch women are the happiest because it's regarded as socially 'ok' to work part-time or not at all as a woman. They kicked the feminazis out of there. http://www.nber.org/papers/w14969.pdf This isn't rocket science, it's not really provable in the same way, because you can never control all the variables to run an experiment. All you can do is try to make best gu…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 08:29 PM
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No, I don't believe it's wise for society to have pre-marital sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 08:09 PM
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Before women went to college they were forced to hitch up with a reliable, successful beta at an early age, that's the whole point here.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 08:07 PM
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I would strongly consider insisting women have children before they can enter college until the birth rate is above replacement level again. Enough of this careerism of women burning up their youth chasing a dollar and a big dick, then suddenly they're too old to conceive a child, not good for society's next generation. Unless someone has a better way of solving the problem, I don't see any other choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 08:03 PM
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As a child of parents who didn't particularly like each other or get along, yes, it was better for me to have two parents living together than to live with a single mom or dad. My life experience was clearly superior to your average person raised in such a manor. Women eventually settle anyway, they just don't have to until age 26-30 now, whereas in the past such settling was forced earlier. I don't think the alpha fuck stage of a woman's life is worth it quite frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 08:01 PM
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It's not about hurt feelz, beta genes are arguably better for offspring and beta males are better fathers in general due to lower fetal testosterone exposure. But because our species has always been a few steps away from death most of our existence the alpha traits are more desirable unless conditions change, as they do in modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 07:57 PM
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Please read The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness. Women are freer than ever before, but less happy than their mothers who were less free. This is the paradox.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 07:54 PM
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All of the evidence suggests they don't, see: The Paradox of Declining Female Happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 07:53 PM
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What's best for society isn't always fun, there are duties as well. I would argue it's women's duty to reproduce at least 2.1 children per woman, which they have failed to do since feminism swept the western world. This can only lead one way in the long run, the decline of our civilization, as you can see all around you happening if you open your eyes clearly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 07:49 PM
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First I would segregate them into separate schooling, because boys and girls are not the same, and should not be treated as such at school. The feminization of school is a contributing factor to the decline of boys education. I would also demand that colleges accept equal numbers of boys and girls (if it works for race balancing, why not sex too?).
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 07:42 PM
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No, because women are no longer reproducing anywhere in the western world sufficiently enough to avoid population decline. And this leads to immigration demands from parts of the world that are truly repressive and disgusting towards women.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/16 06:37 PM
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No
/r/MensRights26/06/16 06:09 PM
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Good reason why I dont read such books.
/r/MensRights26/06/16 12:35 PM
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Or someone got raped like sansa.
/r/MensRights26/06/16 12:09 PM
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I only try if I get clear indicators of interest, which is almost never the case. Mostly I get people who look away from me as I pass in the grocery store or wherever. Sometimes I wonder if I'm that hideous or people always do that. Somehow I doubt it's common. I did have a morbidly obese woman hit on me, and I got away as quickly as I could.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/16 05:25 PM
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Well played sir. hat tip If you're not out there spending your money and consuming products like a little drone you're part of the problem as far as they're concerned.
/r/MensRights10/06/16 07:28 PM
1

Kara Thrace is one sexy, ass kicking lady.
/r/MensRights10/06/16 07:27 PM
2

People choosing to opt out make them nervous and confused.
/r/MGTOW03/06/16 02:22 AM
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Facts are not leading or absent of neutrality, both sides agree this phenomenon exists, they only disagree about why, ergo it is not leading or biased.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 07:49 PM
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I know a sweet woman with a young child who stays with someone who is not usually physically abusive but verbally abusive. She left him once before then went back voluntarily. She's beautiful and has a wonderful personality, and I know she knows she has options because men hit on her a lot. I let her stay at my house a brief time while she was working out things with the social services. The 8-year-old child keeps asking to come back after we made friends, sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 05:10 PM
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The definitions are narrow, but the categories are sound. For instance, consider the 2D:4D digit ratio and what has been studied in human biology. All people are exposed to relative differences in estrogen in the womb and this creates personality and physiological differences that are quite biological and tend to fall either in the beta or alpha category. Men with short index fingers and long ring fingers tend to be nicer toward women, according to a new study, to be published in the March issue…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 04:42 PM
2

Make up is so deceiving that it's somewhat disturbing. Men don't get any sort of advantage like that.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/16 04:28 PM
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Nah, that's just defeatism. There's a key that fits every lock, but it might not be easy to find. Plenty of women are introverted musicians, go find one.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/16 09:56 AM
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Cultivating a relationship with a woman that shares your interests will be good in the long run. Your friends will let you down eventually as they all get married and have kids. It's not all their fault, people get busy. Without a family you will die alone. That may sound ideal to you now, but as you age you will probably feel differently.
/r/TheRedPill24/05/16 09:00 AM
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There's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 02:00 PM
1

Markets naturally do this via competition.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 09:20 AM
2

That's a fine theory, but do you have any evidence to support a wide disconnect between market demand and supply?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 01:08 PM
2

My friend and I actually cringed when she showed up.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 01:05 PM
1

It's still a business and in aggregate it reflects the demand of the viewers, otherwise someone will come along that does a better job and makes more money. That's how business works.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 01:04 PM
1

Yes that did occur to me as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 04:49 AM
1

The women in star wars are eye candy, except for princess leia of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 12:56 AM
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They typecast what the people like to see though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 11:30 PM
1

She was not jolted. She was not 'almost' dragged to the ground.
/r/MensRights14/04/16 02:44 PM
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The issue is she said she was dragged to the ground and lied.
/r/MensRights14/04/16 03:25 AM
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Of that I have no doubt.
/r/MensRights04/04/16 10:15 AM
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There's going to be a lot of lonely women in their 40's out there.
/r/MensRights03/04/16 06:58 PM
2

Not surprised.
/r/MensRights02/04/16 09:34 AM
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Politically there's a lot of vile hatred directed at white males too, especially on the left / college campuses.
/r/MensRights01/04/16 10:27 PM
2

People are neither all good or bad, it's often the flaws that are interesting. Women want to fix these things and think they can do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 03:33 AM
1

The whole point is they like betas more, the like the traits they have, so not surprised there. The women have to be handled differently, more beta-like in Poland.
/r/TheRedPill12/03/16 05:25 PM
1

Never said they were unicorns, just better.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/16 12:01 AM
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That is your experience but you have never lived with Western women, they are worse.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 11:42 PM
1

That completely at odds with what the genes say, that most polish men are more beta or similar to each other, so the polish girls are not so hot for the alpha cock.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 10:48 PM
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I'm pretty sure he is a major grade asshole, but the people are smart, they can't all be fooled, nor were they even under communism.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 09:51 PM
1

Independent polling suggests he has an overwhelming approval rating in the country.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 09:39 PM
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I don't think anyone is calling them unicorns, certainly not me in this thread. I am simply saying they make better wives than Western women. Anecdotally this is true, and now we have some science to back up why.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 08:30 PM
1

I dunno, your random opinion or Heartiste's analysis, I think I'll go with him.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 08:10 PM
2

I disagree, they are not the same. Culture and genetics matters.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 07:54 PM
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It's out there, just like the promiscuity and divorce risk.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 09:32 AM
1

I dunno if a country of betas could elect a Putin, not that I agree with what he's done.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 07:35 AM
1

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Are you saying these differences are purely social constructs?
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 06:50 AM
1

Wait till you find out hardcore Catholics don't believe in sex while a woman is pregnant. I've heard some stories.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 06:48 AM
1

Joe Biden is just creepy with his touchiness of other people's wives and children. I get why he is a bit "off", his children and wife died, but he's still a creepster.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:46 AM
1

The blacks on the liberal plantation fill that spot. Keep getting promised that things are going to get better for them, but they never do. It's a very curious coalition of the cognitive elite sucking on the college/government tit and the lowest of the low SES groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 06:44 AM
1

That's a problem because I don't think I could marry or LTR a very religious woman. I talk too much shit about religion in my regular everyday commentary.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 06:35 AM
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Sure, as I told another person, I'm not saying they are all unicorns, but if you're looking to mitigate the risk of LTR/marriage and have kids, then Polish is by far the best option in terms of just risk and likelihood of long term happiness.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 04:08 AM
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Assuming you don't get cucked or divorce raped in the process, sure. It's obvious Scandinavian women are the hottest and probably most intelligent, but that intelligence has costs, such as being rather ruthless when it comes to reproductive strategy. If you are alpha, no worries, but if you are beta at all you must worry. And women are the best at sniffing out any hint of weakness in a man.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 04:06 AM
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They tested many countries and found differences. The biological affects the customs of society. 2D:4D ratios are found to affect all sorts of human characteristics, look it up.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 03:07 AM
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Even if so that doesn't mean the above is not correct generally speaking. Obviously not all Polish women are ideal for LTR, and that's not inconsistent with what the data is telling us.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 01:57 AM
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He cheated on her when she got older, he didn't get cucked, he just had to payout on a divorce for his mistakes. I didn't say Polish women were unicorns, simply arguing that they are better relative to Western women and the science proves it (which backs up the anecdotal data).
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 01:49 AM
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Watch out for the women who have a long ring finger relative to a short index finger. This digit ratio is indicative of a woman exposed to too much testosterone in the womb and therefore is not LTR material. Google it, it's science.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/16 12:45 AM
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They look older than college girls these days.
/r/MensRights18/02/16 04:27 AM
1

Right, and that's not a reason to blame women, they are as they are, it's up to us to make them take notice.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/16 11:04 PM
4

That's not a guess, it's supported by the genetic evidence dating back millions of years ago until very recently. Our ancient ancestors had a much more difficult time getting laid, no doubt about it. We're living in the golden age of easy pussy, as you quite correctly stated.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/16 10:47 PM
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It amazes me how people choose to ignore any and all biological determinism when it comes to things like attraction. There's nothing crude about the analysis in the above video, he considers environment and culture and explains why biology still matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 10:42 PM
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There is some truth to your statement, but it's incomplete. I know a woman who had a child out of wedlock at age 17 and her life is a mess. The Government is definitely not ensuring that she and her child are safe and secure economically speaking. She's been forced to move back home with her alcoholic single mother several times in her 20's, and go back to school to get a college degree. Her daughter is now 8, and she's still struggling in this economy. Her $1200 car recently broke down and now …
/r/TheRedPill01/02/16 10:28 PM
2

It's complicated by the fact there are two different phenotypes of women, one having been exposed to higher levels of testosterone in the womb during gestation, and therefore having a stronger tendency towards promiscuity, and the opposite. So maybe the top 20% of young people is having sex with this phenotype primarily, and the bottom 80% isn't for the most part, due to the monogamous phenotype pushing the age of marriage further out due to higher educational and career constraints. There are a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 10:21 PM
1

80/20 is a biologically informed influence, society today deviates though, ergo results will be different. Women must consider more about a prospective mate given this environmental difference. And it's not just about who reproduces and who doesn't, in terms of young men struggling just to get laid during ages 18-23 it is very relevant and explains a lot. Essentially, it is more right than wrong even if who is fucking who at age 18-23 deviates from 80/20.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 10:09 PM
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I agree, but don't underestimate the power of the environment, which still drives the beta bucks phenomena. This is not entirely exploitative of the man, because he achieves reproductive success above what would otherwise be possible in a primitive society where a few alphas dominate most of the women all the time. Yeah, your grandfather had it better, but you have it much better than your ancient male ancestors who got zero fucks.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/16 10:04 PM
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A lot of women are proud of the fact they don't need a man, even if they are in a relationship and/or married. I would simply flip the script on her. Need breeds co-dependency, but if you both want each other it's for arguably better and more sustainable reasons in the long run. So the fact you don't need her shouldn't breed any anxiety in her unless she intends on being a bitch or is trying to rationalize past bitchiness. However given your assumed age here, she no doubt is feeling anxious abou…
/r/TheRedPill01/02/16 09:58 PM
2

I agree Bill Gates has more than money going for him, but that probably wasn't enough at a young age to achieve success with women.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/16 09:49 PM
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That's not surprising given we are not hunter/gatherers anymore. That doesn't mean the biological constructs of differential attractiveness don't exist. Our operating system (environment) has changed dramatically which favors monogamy over polygamy. I can install linux or windows on a computer's hardware (biology) and achieve different outcomes. This is explained in the video most people refuse to watch.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:46 PM
2

Societal conditioning is not an entirely abstract concept someone dreamed up, it's informed by underlying biological constructs and the interplay with one's environment, like how long it takes a child to grow into an adult. High input cost into offspring affects how that society will function and what cultures ultimately are developed to deal with the environment. Over time as the environment has rapidly changed and societies that have developed monogamy simply became more effective as a whole a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 09:32 PM
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As I said, Musk may or may not fully fit my example, but there are others that do illustrate what I'm trying to explain here. And Musk may be alpha "now" but was he at age 18-23? Maybe not so much before he found success which fuels self-confidence. Here's a pic of Bill Gates as a young man: http://media.gq.com/photos/563159ff43e3e6756cb30bea/16:9/pass/*GettyImages-551915847.jpg I would assume many young men here are more attractive than him, and probably have better game. Polygamy ended when it…
/r/TheRedPill01/02/16 09:16 PM
2

Also recognize that women have their own problems to deal with, it's called commitment. This is where betas have the advantage.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/16 09:05 PM
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Most betas don't end up getting cucked. It's not the end of the world to leverage your intellectual/financial prowess to attain reproductive success. If betas didn't reproduce we would still be living in mud huts. We could have never survived through the ice age, etc. Civilizations that are successful harness our beta's evolved impulses and drives to get shit done People nevertheless respond to incentives. If they never get the opportunity to reproduce they will not perform. There is only geneti…
/r/TheRedPill01/02/16 09:02 PM
3

Right, plus it's ultimately comes down to a numbers game. How many women have you hit on? No matter where your SMV is at your final success or failure will be dictated based on simply how many times you approach. Logically as you approach more you get better at it socially, learn what works and what doesn't, etc, etc.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/16 08:56 PM
1

I think it's fairly well accepted that whining and bitching is not an expression of alphaness. TRP encourages people to get it out of their system. There's a reason why people have outbursts of anger, it's like a release value for pressure. Self-improvement is very central to TRP, it's just the majority of people in TRP are relatively new and still in the anger phase so it appears that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:51 PM
2

6000 years is a very short period of time when one considers how long it takes for even minor degrees of evolution to happen. We literally were hunter/gathers for millions of years. That environment will shape many things about people, including things like differential attractiveness if that was conducive to reproductive success over very long periods of time. I am willing to consider the 80/20 principle is not perfectly descriptive of current mating behavior among young people in advanced soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:49 PM
3

Because they are extremely successful people that revolutionized society, but I imagined them as probably being relatively unsuccessful and/or unattractive earlier in life with women. They are just two people I randomly thought of that may or may not fully fit what I am trying to explain, but there are plenty of other examples of such people to look at in society that illustrate my point.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/16 08:43 PM
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No, you miss the point, 10 years of bitching and complaining is not alpha. Most people will never be alpha, they will/can find some measure of success though despite being beta. Society is full of people who yearn for society to be fairer. Look at concepts like "white/male privilege." Even if nothing changes culturally men can still find success in life with the proper knowledge and understanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:30 PM
2

Agreed. Just because the odds are not in your favor doesn't mean you can't win with enough persistence, self-improvement, and time. Acceptance is the key though, and we can get to acceptance through the understanding of these uncomfortable biological truths. Without understanding though the path to acceptance is more difficult.
/r/TheRedPill01/02/16 08:27 PM
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In a primitive society that is true, but it is not true in a more advanced society. This is why monogamy was created, because what is "better" changes given one's environment, which then informs the culture what is "best." Perhaps the strongest, fastest person is more conducive to reproductive success in the wild, but maybe the guy best at computer science or engineering is better suited to reproduction in our society. It just so happens that many of these physically less attractive yet intellec…
/r/TheRedPill01/02/16 08:23 PM
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It's an unknown how many people fail to make it past the anger phase, but they were already angry/frustrated before due to past failures. What is known that some people do make it past the anger phase, and if they do they can potentially find themselves in a happy situation in life. It may take some people 10 years to do this, but as their SMV catches up to women many will naturally find success later in life. Also, given how much we hear about male/white privilege, maybe society should examine …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:15 PM
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If you watched the video he goes into more detail why. One reason is that our environment dictates how our biological tendencies get expressed, and how that affects culture. In a primitive society that has no concept of wealth storage it will obviously be different than ours. However we existed as hunter/gathers like primitive societies for long enough to build biological constructs of differential attraction, and we have not been civilized nearly long enough to change this genetic imprint. So b…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 08:07 PM
2

My argument to the bottom unattractive 50% is that they shouldn't expect too much until they are older and more established in their careers, so don't give up! Keep studying, keep working on self-improvement, and given time your SMV will catch up to women's SMV which peaks earlier and then declines sooner. I fear too many men look at the difficulties and resign themselves to defeat, and that is unfortunate.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:52 PM
10

TRP does not give ugly men an edge, it just makes them more bitter. That's clearly debatable. Again, is it news that women can get suitors chasing them regularly? So what? Should ugly men start lobbying legislators for some kind of sexual socialism? No, the point is to inform young men why they seem to struggle so much relative to women and more attractive men. By understanding the phenomenon people can begin to come to some form of acceptance of uncomfortable truths and hopefully undergo self-i…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:35 PM
6

This insight is remarkable because it is illustrative of the struggles of the bottom 50% of men in society in the dating scene, and why they turn to TRP to gain an edge. This isn't just a matter of ugly people under-performing relative to more attractive people, it's that uglier men massively under-perform relative to similarly unattractive women in the young dating scene.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:22 PM
3

The point is TRP is correct about 80/20, and it's likely biological in nature. If you agree, then welcome to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 07:05 PM
2

Did you watch the video completely? Edit: I take that as a no.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 06:23 PM
2

Done.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 05:46 PM
1

I would like to know what they said.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/16 03:23 PM
3

The main reason to vote is economic issues. Many women follow their instincts unless there are very strong incentives not to do so, like starving to death if they make the wrong choice. Most sensible people agree it's a bad idea to have a child out of wedlock, yet 73% (corrected) of black women do exactly that, and increasingly many white women too. Without the backing of the state this would be nearly suicidal.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 07:46 PM
4

Single women who have children out of wedlock are often poor. Look at the black community, family units largely don't exist anymore. The point is not that some men do not benefit from wealth redistribution, it's that the net effect of it is disproportionately beneficial to women and enables their sexual strategies. The point is women would never dream of having children out of wedlock unless the Government was standing by to assist. This is why single women overwhelming vote democrat. Follow the…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 07:26 PM
2

https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/43ii7b/the_success_of_donald_trump_sign_of_an/czisk7v
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 06:44 PM
4

Simply getting rid of the patriarchy would result in financial uncertainty, which negatively impacts single women the most. Ergo, the only way to really get rid of the patriarchy completely is to elevate the Government to the role of patriarch or daddy. He provides when a woman gets pregnant without the capacity to provide for her offspring out of wedlock. He protects when she decides to no fault divorce via laws and courts. He rabble rouses on behalf of the wage gap (a false notion), the top 1%…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 06:42 PM
2

Redistibution of wealth favors female reproductive strategy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/16 04:48 PM
0

Ok.
/r/MGTOW26/01/16 06:30 PM
6

Height is not just a capacity to protect/defend, it is also an indicator of overall health and access to quality food, which implies she and her offspring will share in such bounty if she jumps on that cock. This is why the average height of people has been steadily rising since the mid 18th century.
/r/MGTOW26/01/16 05:45 AM
1

Refusal to provide resources/companionship is interpreted as passive-aggressive violence to the receiver.
/r/MGTOW08/01/16 08:45 PM
2

Chad has negative personality characteristics which make him less than an ideal partner. Simply being hot is a physical attribute and is not a problem in and of itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/16 06:29 PM
5

Of course they exist. They are just not as numerous.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/15 05:16 PM
5

How he goes about approaching her is his first shit test.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:22 AM
2

I would get out of that shitty state.
/r/MGTOW07/12/15 05:53 PM
1

It hurts the narrative, so it hurts them.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 08:19 AM
1

Well that depends on whether you believe inflation figures.
/r/MGTOW07/12/15 08:17 AM
3

Black piller? Please explain.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 08:16 AM
1

I'm sure that is part of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 08:15 AM
1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFi2xOa3E6w&noredirect=1
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 06:34 AM
4

It's true, the gold digger is one of the most vilified groups of women in existence. Is there an equivalent on the man side? Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 06:33 AM
27

So I can go galt. To hell with the system entirely, not just the divorce courts and anti-male culture/media, but the entire system, the fiat currency that punishes savers and rewards debtors, the corporate meat grinder, the rising cost of living, the stress of worry that you won't be able to make ends meet at the end of the month despite busting your ass at 60-80 hours a week in some cases. I don't need that. I don't need the divorce potential or the child support potential. I can take care of m…
/r/MGTOW07/12/15 05:47 AM
11

It's tragic that men's median wages have not increased since the 1970's and nobody gives a fuck. Do you hear it on the news? Never. All you hear about is the wage gap and rape culture.
/r/MGTOW07/12/15 05:41 AM
1

That's what I'm saying. If she was 20-25 they'd be all over that.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 05:11 AM
17

They keep talking about things you can't change, how about small dicks and short guys?
/r/MGTOW07/12/15 01:20 AM
9

This is pretty sad that feminists today still cling to traditional modes of courtship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 11:31 PM
2

Look, the truth is TRP probably couldn't have helped you in this situation. She is a damaged person and liked the safety and security you offered. She overlooked the fact she wasn't attracted to you for these reasons. Feel sorry for this person more than anything. You should probably stick to Asian or Hispanic chicks (generally shorter). White women are taller and therefore want taller men. That's why the White male Asian female match works. You've learned a valuable lesson, don't offer things t…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 10:11 PM
3

Yes I agree that's part of it, but she does appear over the hill. Guys still hit on chicks, it's not like it's disappeared.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 10:01 PM
4

Upper 30's is definitely past the dropoff point in general. These women should be married with kids by now, not bar hopping.
/r/MensRights06/12/15 09:23 PM
1

2nd one is the best.
/r/MGTOW03/12/15 05:25 PM
1

What can make someone inherently less valuable?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:19 PM
54

Respect and support.
/r/MensRights02/12/15 08:21 AM
2

Perhaps in hardware, not in software. It's like comparing iOS vs Android. Hormones play a big role in brain function.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 10:17 PM
0

Maybe she will end up losing.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 03:20 PM
2

I hope it was clean at least.
/r/MensRights01/12/15 01:52 PM
1

Men's median income has not increased since the 1970s. That has to affect the marriage market.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 01:50 PM
3

Gold dig that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 01:23 PM
2

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/these-women-cant-find-enough-marriageable-men/
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 01:21 PM
5

That's why women's happiness level has fallen since the 1970's. They're stuck in a role now for which they were never biologically suited, working 40-60 hours a week to build a so-called "career," when such things are not the meaning of life, they are a means to an end, and always have been. Only later, once they've been in the labor force a while do they realize this career business was a big scam.
/r/MGTOW30/11/15 08:43 AM
2

Never block a circle jerk in progress bro.
/r/MensRights29/11/15 02:10 AM
1

Ad hominem, discussion ended.
/r/MensRights25/11/15 07:11 PM
0

So you don't agree women are equal, that evolution is real, that religion should not be taught in class, that laws should not be based on religion, that criticism of faith must be protected speech?
/r/MensRights25/11/15 02:03 AM
0

So you don't agree women are equal, that evolution is real, that religion should not be taught in class, that laws should not be based on religion, that criticism of faith must be protected speech?
/r/MensRights24/11/15 10:31 PM
1

No, we resettle them in places like Turkey, and we pay a fraction there as we do to resettle them here.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 09:38 PM
2

Many are going to Turkey, but unfortunately there's not much free welfare there for them. They'll have to work to live.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 07:39 AM
-1

I know they're Muslims, that's all I need to know. Get educated on what so-called 'moderate' Muslims believe. They do not share our values.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 07:28 AM
-5

If they were all fundamentalist christians like the kooks we have in the bible belt I would be just as much against them. Anyone who can't accept evolution, that men and women are equal, that homosexuality is not a sin, that you should not interpret the words of a holy book literally, has no business in a civilized society. The problem with the refugees is that they're even farther behind the fundies in social progress.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 07:18 AM
-4

These men are very young, I doubt most of them have families waiting to come as soon as they get let into Germany. They're going there for the easy welfare.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 07:05 AM
-2

As a citizen it is my right to judge people who want to come here and be citizens as well. Why is it mostly men fleeing? Let them go to other Muslim nations that will tolerate their ludicrous and barbaric ideas. As a politician already said, we can pay to resettle them there cheaper.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 06:36 AM
-10

Also reasonable. Who needs people who need to pray 5 times a day and have nutty ideas about women, sex, alcohol, and other things? Arab/Muslim immigrants in the UK have the highest unemployment rate by far of any other immigrant group, including poor Indians.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 06:15 AM
-16

A reasonable precaution. This doesn't really belong here.
/r/MensRights24/11/15 05:45 AM
1

Lol ok I guess I'll have to take your word for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/11/15 01:21 AM
2

Well the rape fantasy doesnt include a low quality male, it's a fantasy of being taken by an alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 08:01 PM
2

I really like your attitude but it's difficult to maintain that over a lifetime. You can't force yourself to like everything he likes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 10:04 PM
2

In most cases women who remain childless into their 40's have only themselves to blame, yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 07:24 PM
3

The guys who would want to have children with these women are not desirable enough, so they are forced to settle for 'recently divorced /w kids' men or otherwise desirable men who don't want kids that makes them undesirable to other women. Women in general don't like supporting a man. They want all the benefits of a traditional relationship with none of the costs. Women's reproductive costs are higher, so they are indeed pickier.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 07:18 PM
3

Australia's housing market is hyperinflated. That's part of the problem facing household formation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 05:42 PM
5

TRP is all about enjoying the decline and ignoring men's rights issues. This is a surrender, and is not acceptable to me. Both genders must find a balance and ways to work together for the benefit of the next generation. One of my hobbies is reading economic data, and with the low birth rate in much of the 1st world, we're in for a bumpy ride this century. Yea, I'm one of those fools who actually cares about the future, not how many notches I have on my belt from slamming V. Furthermore, some of…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 07:27 AM
2

Older women just have less smv, I didn't say they can't find a partner, they just have to settle more and more the older they get.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 05:12 AM
2

Eh, I wouldnt think so, but what do I know, I'm just a purple ex-EC.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 12:34 AM
4

Of course. Visible signs of aging implies your fertility window is almost closed. We are programmed to pick up on these cues.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 12:30 AM
7

not really. It's a rule of thumb. And just because 23 is generally hotter than 30 doesnt mean a person isnt going to pull men. Once you actually show signs of aging, not just maturity, your smv will decline rapidly. That is what they mean by post wall.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 12:26 AM
7

A hot 30 year old will still be attractive to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 12:23 AM
6

High value men are privileged, it's just there are very few of them.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 04:01 PM
1

How old are you?
/r/MensRights10/11/15 06:22 AM
2

Uhh, no.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 06:21 AM
1

If a state has common law marriage they can say you are technically married even if you haven't been officially married. Different states have different rules, so you'll have to look it up.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:51 AM
2

The cultural influence to get married is so strong in families and society we can't blame the men for following the script. We are literally programmed to do so, we're social animals. Yes, we can defy the programming, but not everybody can.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:48 AM
1

Financial compatibility is absolutely one of the most critical components that make a marriage work in the long run. If one person is a prolific spender and another is a saver it's a problem.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:45 AM
2

I hope you told her something along the lines of, "and you expected it to be easy?!" Stay strong bro, for your kids.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:42 AM
3

Men have always been the expendable gender (fighting/dying in wars, working hard labor, etc), we just didn't realize exactly how worthless we truly are in the eyes of society.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:39 AM
1

I don't know why I find this humorous but I do. I still feel very badly for OP.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:37 AM
2

Now that's over the top, I disagree 100%.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:36 AM
2

Hypergamy is a bitch.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:35 AM
1

In some cases there are warning signs but you have to know what you're looking for.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:25 AM
2

The sick thing is they often get a perverse pleasure out of ruining him once it's over. It's all very sad, but it's cultural I think.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:23 AM
1

The problem is too many people don't even seek counseling anymore. People are just like, I'm not happy so I'm leaving. That is not what marriage is suppose to be.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:20 AM
3

A little bit? You are a bit out of touch with what kids and adolescents go through in fucked up divorces.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:16 AM
1

I think there are millions of kids who are a little gun-shy on marriage today because of fucked up divorced parents. The kids lose in divorces more than anybody.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:14 AM
1

As I said above, that's slightly different, he's being thrown out on the street after a betrayal. Reverse the gender and everyone would expect the wife to get something to get started again.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:12 AM
2

That's slightly different, he's being thrown out on the street. Reverse the gender and everyone would expect the wife to get something to get started again.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:11 AM
2

She realized I can't clean these offices for the rest of my life.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:09 AM
1

Their income earning prospects are not exactly fantastic.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:07 AM
1

The power is tilted in women's favor once the knot is tied. So the risk is not as high for a woman to get married. She has the Government and the court system backing her fully, because the last thing society wants is to support the missing half of a family unit completely.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 01:00 AM
1

You better investigate if your State has common law marriage.
/r/MensRights10/11/15 12:59 AM
21

I don't think the OP is saying or implying women are all bad. He's essentially saying if my mother is 'one of the bad ones' then the risks outweigh the benefits in my view. This is the MGTOW point of view, minus the misogyny.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 07:58 PM
454

Damn dude, that's hardcore.
/r/MensRights09/11/15 11:45 AM
2

Laziness is not an overarching theme of mgtow. Go to the sub and read. In my case I was born with certain physical deformities.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 05:43 PM
1

Women are also harder to please and keep happy than men.
/r/MGTOW03/11/15 09:26 AM
3

Why does everyone have to follow your social script? Do you know some people are simply not marriageable material for a variety of reasons? What is so noble about lowering your standards into the gutter just to get laid and reproduce? Your attitude is disgusting to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 08:29 PM
5

Those two things are not mutually exclusive. Look up the statistics yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 03:09 PM
1

I do sometimes, but it's just like atheism, you have to accept reality. Have your children before it's too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 12:55 PM
9

To be fair, it's more likely a husband leaves a sick wife with cancer than the opposite. However, as a man, you are responsible for providing whether it's explicitly stated or not. Ergo, if you lose your job, you are no longer a man until you regain your capacity to provide. So a wife is more likely to leave a husband if he loses his job than the opposite. This is the nature of things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 07:39 AM
2

And some people refuse to recognize that feminism has been a major component in the demographic/economic decline since 1970. There are more women in college than men for fucks sake. How could we not be in a decline?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:48 PM
1

Feminism is what started the decline, both demographically and economically. There was an initial burst of economic activity associated with women entering the workplace and buying shit, but that is over. Now, not only are present economic conditions dependent on women continuing to work, but men's median wages have been stagnant since 1970, ergo the median man is less attractive than ever before to the modern woman. This leads to demographic collapse, and that leads to economic weakness. Not on…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:44 PM
0

Illegal immigrants and other poor laborers.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:38 PM
2

It amazes me how blind people are to simple supply and demand. It's important to look at median male wages, which have been stagnant since 1970 against a rising cost of living driven by two income households which leverage their incomes with debt.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:35 PM
1

In our case feminism was a major contributor to the demographic and economic decline.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 03:18 PM
1

/bow
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 05:58 AM
3

I can sum it up for him. Basically feminism doubled the amount of labor available to big business interests and therefore created new customers for their products. Women drive consumer spending, so it makes sense to put more money and jobs in their hands for anybody trying to make money. The cost comes at the expense of future generations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 05:32 AM
2

Our anecdotes are wrong, but yours are right, see the problem? We know some women are more promiscuous and others not so much simply due to their exposure to prenatal testosterone. This fact doesn't make them objects, it is explaining the complex nature of human life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 05:16 AM
-2

Sounds MGTOW to me. It's about you going your own way with the knowledge you have. I agree with much of what you've said, the world needs a readjustment to return to something normal.
/r/MGTOW28/10/15 10:22 AM
1

Oh I'm not. But it's inevitable, Japan will be the first to go. Then the dominoes fall.
/r/MGTOW28/10/15 10:17 AM
1

I would file a sexual harassment claim against her for something equally frivolous.
/r/MGTOW27/10/15 10:26 PM
1

of course they can, but you're pretty much enculturated at that point. And these brides are not 18.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 08:42 AM
5

Eventually it will all correct itself via economic collapse. The high cost of living will come down, then families will be able to afford to comfortably live on a single median income again. That process was beginning in 2008/09, but the money printing kicked the can down the road.
/r/MGTOW26/10/15 01:07 AM
3

No, it's extremely unlikely what one person thinks is a 9 another person thinks is a 1.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 11:40 PM
0

That's why people spin plates. If you always have 2-3 plates spinning you can always access sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 11:15 PM
1

That's extremely unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 10:47 PM
-2

Presumption of guilt in battery and rape cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 08:36 PM
0

How is it a strawman exactly?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 08:28 PM
1

Time is not the only value.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 08:06 PM
1

40 hours is too much work as it is. People should be working less. I read about these issues because they are genuinely interesting. And picking chicks up is fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 07:36 PM
6

that is not required to make a market.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 06:28 PM
2

No they are adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 06:16 PM
2

Youth are much more susceptible to such things. Adults attitudes get crystalized after a certain point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 06:15 PM
4

You haven't stated your reasons for why it doesn't exist. http://assets.csom.umn.edu/assets/71503.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 06:07 PM
-1

There is something to be said for the physical experience. I can look at google earth or go on a real vacation and see the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 05:47 PM
2

They remain ignorant of the higher needs due to being raised in another culture.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 05:34 PM
5

I believe you are mistaken on what a market means. As an individual what I value is different from others, but in aggregate as a population we create a market and a clearing price for everything. 7/10 is an absolutely valid way to put a value on a set of attributes that is in demand and has a limited supply. When a buddy says he picked up a 7 at a bar last night I immediately know what he means.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 05:18 PM
2

Sure, but I'd rather send 100 likes online than pay a whore $200 an hour. Her pussy simply isn't worth that to me. I agree validation is important to many people, but the sex is probably more important. The whole concept about pushing through last minute resistance is seeking the goal of sex, not validation.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 05:14 PM
5

Almost everything is a cost-benefit analysis whether you're conscious of it or not. You're confident that any TRP member can sleep with as many women as he wants indefinitely and it will be cheaper than prostitutes? Any? No, but many can do so. Look at Tinder. Unless you look/act awful, sex is readily available for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 05:06 PM
7

I did not say validation had no value, but lets be clear, prostitution is the oldest form of work because there is tremendous demand for it. However prostitutes are a fairly expensive form of recreation. If you can fuck for free or for the cost of a few drinks that is much more reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 04:59 PM
9

I don't masturbate to feel validated, I do it because I am horny. By the same rationale I seek sexual relations with women, because it's better than imagining.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/15 04:41 PM
0

Well, they could be sexually like humans and still be in the forest. They could but it's not very likely. What makes you think it is? But that doesn't mean they didn't reproduce Maybe 80 percent of women reproduced, whereas only 40 percent of men did. (yes I know 80/40 is an estimate) “It would be shocking if these vastly different reproductive odds for men and women failed to produce some personality differences,” he said And if there were our mating system did not get us there. Large brains, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 12:06 AM
0

Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 10:28 PM
0

Ok do you have a point? Edit: Apparently not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 08:54 PM
5

Beauty is an indicator of health.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 08:44 PM
6

See my other comment. From 150,000 to 70,000 years ago humans nearly went extinct and split into small groups to survive. The selective pressure on females to only reproduce with the males most likely to give them children that could survive that period would have been extreme. Chad may be a douchebag today, but back then he was probably ideal. Bonobos may have similar genes, but that 1% difference makes all the difference in the world. Even mice are about 97.5% similar.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 07:37 PM
3

If bonobos were like humans they wouldn't be living in the forest. Directly in conflict with the theory that human mating mimics other primates is the genetic evidence that most of the men who ever lived never reproduced, whereas most women did. Obviously men are the ones that are weeded out via natural selection. By this mating system humans have risen to the top of the animal hierarchy. All other animals are therefore of limited comparison value.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 07:26 PM
1

I'm talking about evolutionary psychology, which was shaped by hundreds of thousands of years of mating patterns. Given most of the men who ever lived never reproduced many women shared one or a few men. So yeah, many women are going to cheat because historically there is always a shortage of high value men. That is why I am not surprised that women would cheat just as much if not more than men given today's environment in which women have their own financial independence. The patriarchy, religi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 12:32 AM
1

Not talking about that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 01:50 PM
2

I'm sure it's possible, it's just not very likely or easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 08:47 PM
3

Like OP said, libido makes you forget about all those "rules."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 07:57 PM
4

Because sperm is cheap and wombs are expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 07:56 PM
1

BC does increase attraction to less masculine men though.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 07:54 PM
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It is what it is brother.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 06:48 AM
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Different studies find different correlations on brain size. Some as high as 0.6 and some as low as 0.0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroscience_and_intelligence Although women are different, so I wouldn't assume they are dumber because they have smaller brains. The neurons are most likely more densely packed. Einstein for example had a normal brain size but he had more "folds" in his brain as well (implying higher density?). Generally speaking Asians have larger brains the Whites, and Whites…
/r/MGTOW19/10/15 12:57 AM
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I'm down with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 12:38 AM
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Marriage is a shit test for many.
/r/MGTOW19/10/15 12:31 AM
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The pill also increases her affinity to betas and beta traits, so at least betas get a bone in all this. IUD is the way to go quite frankly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 11:40 PM
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The article is actually downplaying the significance of duration. If we assume a woman is at the midpoint of sexual function (halfway between 1.2 and 6 or 3.6) she is losing nearly 0.25 of her sexual function per year assuming a constant rate of loss. That is a great deal of loss given the scales. Even if she's maxed out at a 6 at the start (unlikely), she will be average at best in terms of sexual function in (2.4 / 0.25) years, or 9-10 years.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 11:20 PM
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Amusing. http://www.livescience.com/18233-women-lose-sexual-desire.html My point is, just as SMV changes over time and at different rates for different genders, so does sex drive. So of course, to answer your question, men value it much more, and that desire gap only increases the longer he is married. Women are wired to focus on maximizing the potential future of her offspring after she is done reproducing, not sucking a dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 10:46 PM
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A lot of men simply dont want to be a father to another man's child. Single mothers are also bad decision makers, ergo they fuck things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 10:09 PM
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It's a common myth that women's sex drive heats up as her fertility declines in her 30's. This is false. Chad already enjoyed her robust sex drive in her early to mid 20's.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 09:48 PM
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Amusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 09:33 PM
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There is some truth to that, but there are a lot others that dont attract much until later.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 09:31 PM
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He's smart enough to know that while he looks ok for being in his late 40's, that these women in their 20's are not after his looks or charm, but mainly his money. I think doctors are especially sensitive to this because they spend long years in school earning basically nothing, then suddenly they are in the top 1%, so they get to see the full flavor of female hypergamy/golddiggery. One has to ask, where were these chicks when I was lonely in medical school or college?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 08:20 PM
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Politically they are outnumbered by the women that favor such a liberal system and the men that are going along with it or are simply winners in the system. If the losers had the political clout they would use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 07:56 PM
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That is why men tend to be more conservative, and women more liberal (especially single women). Traditional societies and monogomy are based on the premise that if you want to unlock the full potential of a male population towards productivity then they all need to get laid. Religion reinforces this idea. Conversely, modern society is based on the premise that this is no longer necessary because manual labor is not the primary way we acquire resources anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 07:43 PM
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Yes in traditional societies, but genetic evidence says that is a very recent "invention" in human history. http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/content/21/11/2047.full.pdf+html
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 07:36 PM
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That doesn't really surprise me given most of the men who ever lived never reproduced.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 07:30 PM
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I do indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 07:29 PM
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The digit ratio doesn't imply you are unfaithful, only whether you have a preference for monogamy or polygamy (promiscuity). Although one could argue the risk of unfaithfulness is probably higher among those exposed to more testosterone.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 07:21 PM
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Well promiscuous doesn't necessarily mean you will be unfaithful, it's just that it's more tempting I suppose.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 07:19 PM
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Well done.
/r/MGTOW18/10/15 06:29 PM
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They have more kids that women who work full time most of their life.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 01:36 PM
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Japan is another culture, so I'm sure it is different there. Japan has some really weird issues around sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 01:15 PM
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The main issue is not the sexual revolution, it's that too many women are involved in the workplace (out of desire or financial necessity). If I was working full time as a woman I wouldn't want to be saddled with getting pregnant either. Obviously the solution is to work less or not at all. I'm sick an tired of ignorant people telling me a declining population is a good idea. No great nation ever got greater by not reproducing, it simply doesn't happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 01:09 PM
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Dude, you don't understand economics.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 01:05 PM
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Doesn't matter, she was alpha widowed as soon as she got a taste of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 09:19 PM
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Initially it was forced, but they both grew to have serious feelings about each other. Perhaps you need to rewatch.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 09:10 PM
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Art imitates life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 10:46 AM
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Tv show.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 06:46 AM
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Even sci-fi is based on something relevant to our society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 06:46 AM
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Well said.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 06:44 AM
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Completely made up would mean it has no relevance. I disagree.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 04:58 AM
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Because it has implications for gender relations that are real.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 04:46 AM
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Look at the IQ bell curve for women and men, then you will understand. There are some incredibly talented women out there who should be allowed to pursue where that talent can take them, but they are few and far between. Men have an IQ bell curve that is wider and more shallow. Why is this the case? If you don't know, you should figure that out on your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 04:30 AM
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Not open for most women, yeah, not sure why that's a difficult concept. You're speaking in extremes which is not useful. It would be more accurate to say that any society that can't replace itself (and requires immigration or outsourcing reproduction) is a failure. We can prove this, look around you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 04:08 AM
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FYI, I left TRP when I read about Elliot Rogers because I felt the toxicity allowed there doesn't justify the benefit of frustrated men there "just letting off steam." No, that sort of toxic talk is exactly what begins to "create" insane people and move them into action. "Women are wonderful" should be stickied at the top of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 01:29 AM
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Expected that, but 'she' is so easy in these discussions.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 01:24 AM
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Ok, well I doubt he totally understands otherwise he'd be a killer. But good discussion anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 01:21 AM
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If that were true there would be far less rapes in society. A warm body goes a long way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 01:17 AM
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I read your link. I do possess understanding and feelings, but not full understanding and feelings. What is that? When you understand and feel another’s feelings for yourself, you have empathy. It ain't sympathy. It's more than compassion, it is understanding on "some" level that is not quantifiable but exists nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 01:11 AM
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No, because men have a stronger and more active sex drive. Plus, monogamy is a creation of advanced societies that is relatively recent in human history.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 01:09 AM
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I didn't start the semantics with formal definitions. I may or may not need therapy, but I am not about to kill someone because I understand some of his mindset. That notion is false that I do if I can empathize.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 12:59 AM
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Nothing about that definition implies "total understanding," only "understanding." I reject the notion that I must totally understand the mind of a killer to empathize. Watch the show Dexter if you still don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 12:53 AM
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We were talking about whether you can empathize with them or not. She said if you can then you need to see a professional therapist. What about that is clear to you? Here's the original: Hey dude if you can seriously empathize with what those two did then, and I say this with all sincerity, you should consider talking to a therapist. It seems like you may have some serious anger issues, and they can help with that. Forget the whole red/blue/purple nonsense for just a second, that's really not a …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 12:46 AM
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Perhaps, but that was not clear.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 12:43 AM
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A man's primary function in an "advanced" society is not to impregnate as many women as possible, that's why monogamy was developed. It's not just a matter of popping out a kid, it's raising them, teaching them right from wrong, educating them when they're home from school, helping them reach their full potential, etc. Working mothers can only do that part time at best, or virtually none at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 12:39 AM
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Well you're not insane so of course you can't totally understand. But we can all see that people need to feel connected to be normal.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 12:11 AM
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And by fiat money and debt expansion. The end of the gold standard began an era in which men could be sidelined as useful but not essential. That followed by automation, computers, illegal immigrants, decline of unions, welfare expansion, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/15 12:08 AM
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A bubble? Today is the bubble, not the past. This is not a natural sustainable system we have here with 57% of college students being women. It will collapse and equalize in some way (along with the student debt bubble). When that happens the cost of living will come down to a level that is more affordable for families.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 11:48 PM
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In terms of income producing capacity, no, they aren't. It's a complex problem. Men's median incomes have not increased since the 1970's, whereas women's has steadily increased throughout that time period. Men are also outnumbered in college by a large percentage as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 11:46 PM
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I don't believe it's open to interpretation which is better, it's obvious. Women's primary biological function is to reproduce, ergo a traditional relationship is best for most women (people like Hillary Clinton excluded).
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 11:45 PM
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I dunno I think personality means a lot if you have to be around that person every day. Studies have shown women are more narcissistic today than before, that's significant in my book.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 11:43 PM
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The issue is we are not all mentally as strong as one another. If a given person is incel AND they have certain mental frailties that can't deal with that condition, then there is a potential to explode. But being incel is only part of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 11:15 PM
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If all incels are potential terrorists so are all muslims, start your inquisitions there eh?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 11:13 PM
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Then legalize prostitution and regulate it. I don't think we need to violate people's rights to eliminate the tiny risk you could be shot someday. So please refrain from tearing up the constitution in your illogical frenzy.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 11:09 PM
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We are all humans, even the worst of us. I don't see why you can't empathize/understand and be appalled at a tragedy. Perhaps you should look into your inability to empathize.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/15 11:07 PM
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There's a difference between a layoff for whatever valid reason and being fired for poor performance. However a man that can't provide is no longer a man regardless, until he can do so again. So it's essential to not remain unemployed for too long, otherwise you will be seen as weak.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 06:28 PM
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I would date a woman richer, this is an aspect of relationships that men do not understand because they're unfamiliar with them. Dating a rich woman is actually a tremendous benefit to men, as you have no fear of being divorce raped, and you will know she is with you for a reason other than money. In practice is may not work out well, but many relationships don't work out for many different reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 03:14 PM
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See my recent edits above. I'm not sure I understand the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 02:34 PM
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Because getting sick is not necessarily a form of weakness, but getting fired from your job is, hence the tendency of women to leave their boyfriends/husbands when they get canned, but not so much when they get sick. The reverse is true for men, they don't care if their wife loses her job, but they do care if she gets ill and requires ongoing attention. Men are just not very good care-givers and not too tolerant of a wife that can't have sex due to illness. Conversely, women can't afford to be i…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/15 02:30 PM
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That's just it, women are not satisfied by any measure. Studies have been done which prove women are less happy today than the 1970's, both in absolute terms and relative to men. This is regarded as a paradox by some as feminism should be increasing their happiness. But 3rd wavers are merely pulling women in too many different directions, resulting in dissatisfaction regardless of whether you're a stay at home mom or a powerhouse career woman. Their choices are never their own, that's an illusio…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 04:13 PM
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I don't have a problem with providing incentives, however no western country that provides incentives can convince their own people to reproduce enough to replace their own population. If a similar mindset takes hold all over the world, which I think will happen in our lifetimes, then yes, we will be on a downward trajectory (like Japan) towards zero population. Even Germany eventually won't be strong enough to support Europe with their extremely low birth rate.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 05:28 AM
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If feminism spreads to the rest of the world their birth rates will fall to levels like our own, then the human race will most certainly go extinct eventually. It may take thousands of years, but it will happen unless the birth rate gets back above replacement level. And in no Western nation is the birth rate stabilized.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 05:13 AM
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It's not required that everyone have kids, but obviously most women do need to have them if the human race and our culture is to survive in the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 05:08 AM
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Most people don't know what the fuck they want anyway. What people think they want is heavily influenced by society. For example, feminists taught women that they should go out and get a big career, and so that's exactly what they've done. But this doesn't change the fact women's purpose is to reproduce, that is what they should be doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 05:03 AM
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Of course there is a should. Society is telling us to do all sorts of things, and not to other things. Choices are not made in a vacuum.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 04:55 AM
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My sympathy is proportional to the number of times I had sex as a young man. But to answer your question, yes, many women are losing, and many of "winners" eventually bail out of their marriage anyway. Imagine being 34+, recently divorced, 2 kids, and trying to find a man your equal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 04:32 AM
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You could do that, but the men who aren't going to college are unlikely to be in the "high achieving" category anyway, so the problem persists. There's nothing wrong with the supply of high achieving men, it's just those men are not that interested in them. These high achieving women should be dedicated to reproduction and raising the next generation of achievers, but that would require a cultural shift, a recognition that work life is really not what life is about.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/15 04:17 AM
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The issue is all people settle. That is what a match is. Men generally don't have sex with women they don't find attractive. There's also the wife goggle effect, so even as you get older (less attractive), your husband will generally still think you're great.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 02:01 PM
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Indeed we can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 01:50 PM
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Of course, her attraction to Gale is undeniable. But this is essentially what the TRP is saying about women, they may marry a beta in the end, but they will never be truly attracted to them as much as they could with another man.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 01:42 PM
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I would disagree slightly and give society a stronger influence on what's 'desirable.' A perfect example of this is the movie Hunger Games, which is essentially a beta > alpha love story. It's telling millions of girls everywhere that aspire to do great things that they don't need the alpha, they need the support of a good beta sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 01:04 PM
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Also, if you really respect her and what she does for a living you should have no issues paying for her service.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 12:40 PM
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Is it possible? Sure, but don't count on it. She needs to pay her rent too bro. But I have heard of it happening.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 12:36 PM
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It's business, plus many enjoy the work they do, helping men such as yourself. You should take one on a date and explain how much you respect what she does for a living then she will fuck you silly afterwards. Just do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 12:31 PM
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Prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/15 06:52 AM
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Historians dont like the term because of political correctness. The roman empire did a lot of horrible things, they dont want to glorify that by saying it's collapse set back human progress, but it most certainly did.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 04:15 PM
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The fact there is no history should be a hint. Many things were lost and had to be rediscovered much later, like concrete for example.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 09:22 AM
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You forgot the dark ages before that came to fruition.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 08:58 AM
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Sounds like what we really need is another 10 million illegal immigrants from Mexico with little to no educational background. Yes, success!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 08:57 AM
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Affirmative action for boys, do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 08:55 AM
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Wow, you mean when women outnumber men 57% to 43% in college that there are adverse consequences for both genders? Amazing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/15 08:54 AM
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Yes but these friends didn't fuck you so.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 07:36 PM
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Also so she can be "not strong" sometimes and reliably lean on you. But if you are also weak, then that won't necessarily work.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/15 07:29 PM
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The more emotional I become (male or female) the less rational I can think. This is a fundamental difference if we assume women are more emotional. Women are more social as well, which is why they pay attention to body language and tone more. Women are also more violent in the context of relationships as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 07:02 PM
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Of course, enjoy.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 06:29 PM
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8 children was the norm back in the late agricultural era, when women basically just sat around the house all day procreating and cooking, and men accumulated resources to allow this procreative bonanza. Women didn't have that luxury during the prehistoric era or hunter/gatherer societies. Plus there's no evidence how many children they had prehistorically.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 05:57 PM
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Genetic Evidence for Unequal Effective Population Sizes of Human Females and Males
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 05:54 PM
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Hah, not sure which is more likely actually. Talk to some folks about the importance of eugenics or start a CMV, the results wont be encouraging. Jews are incredible people though, a product of thousands of years of selective breeding in a hostile environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 07:28 AM
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Animals in the wild have a better survival rate than that. But that is why chad thundercock's sperm is in high demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 07:20 AM
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True, but we will also have sex robots soon, so betas and omegas will have a viable outlet soon. I don't know about you but I don't want to regress to prehistoric conditions. Most people male or female didn't live much beyond the age of 35 as I recall. I'm all for smart eugenics, however current breeding standards are starting to look like an idiocracy is forming. I want to see humanity continue to advance and find it's way to the stars. That is the only way to survive in the long run. For that …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 06:47 AM
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Humans are social animals, that's the reason females focus so much on assessing the social skills of anyone with a penis. She needs to make sure her offspring will be able to effectively function both in society and in the sexual marketplace. Obviously if men with weak social skills are taught to fake it, that is viewed as a problem by the assessor.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 06:40 AM
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The concept of monogomy is designed to unlock beta male economic potential. Betas built this society, not Chad Thundercock.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 06:28 AM
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Indeed, most males who ever lived never reproduced, yet around 80% of females did reproduce. This is simply a matter of genetics. Due to this, female sexual strategy always pushes for more resource sharing/redistribution in society (liberalism, socialism, etc), in which case the Government becomes daddy, and most men are rendered obsolete. We're not quite there yet because men still control a lot of resources, but the needle is definitely tilting in that direction with women outnumbering men in …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/15 06:25 AM
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That name.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/15 08:03 AM
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Except for being straight and female you don't sound like one though, very a-typical.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 09:17 AM
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because the math doesnt add up if most people are going to find a mate.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 08:54 AM
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Women are genetically predisposed to be selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 08:51 AM
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No, she pays for her own lifestyle right now, but she wants more, much more.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/15 08:39 AM
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Women outnumber men in college 60/40, how is that reasonable?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 08:59 PM
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That's just the very important/must have people. There's still important, somewhat important people out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 08:58 PM
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Given women now outnumber men in college almost 60/40 that may be impossible for one-third of female college graduates to accomplish.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 08:56 PM
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Because society hundreds of years ago didn't let women earn money? Then presumably since that has changed women's behavior should have changed with it, but it hasn't. The more a woman makes the more money she demands a potential husband makes, that's simply a fact in the data.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 08:54 PM
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Unless you're dirt poor I dont think it matters that much. It's genetics or luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 07:11 AM
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No thats their preference percentage for steady income.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 07:10 AM
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Of course, must be politically correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 07:09 AM
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The wealthier women have unrealistic expectations though imo. There aren't enough men of the caliber they solipistically think they deserve (based on their own income and looks).
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/15 03:04 AM
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Left their own offspring too.
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 11:06 PM
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I take C3 Curcumin, it lowers my sex drive and benefits my health tremendously.
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 08:29 PM
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Yeah that's the main argument against prostitution, that women get "caught" in it or trapped. With this there is no rational argument.
/r/MensRights16/09/15 07:05 PM
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Please find a link to that story I'd like to have another good laugh.
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 07:04 PM
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This bitch has money, why does she need someone else's so badly? Oh I forgot, women drive most of the consumer spending in the world.
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 07:01 PM
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The price will be cheap because bots will be making bots. And we'll have universal basic income by then, with most average people working part time.
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 06:27 PM
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Yea I don't think Einstein was bagging the pussy, he hated his wife too.
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 06:22 PM
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You can tell she's talking about herself.
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 06:20 PM
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But I thought feminists don't need men.
/r/MensRights16/09/15 06:30 AM
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If that were true then heavily "regulated" prostitution would be legal in the US and elsewhere.
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 12:49 AM
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It's the same reason prostitution is illegal bro, that too is predominantly a one way street (men seeking women for sex). There's no disputing the fact women like sex, but they don't like it as often or as much as men do. Women are after relationships, sex is a side benefit for her. This mismatch resolves itself via asymmetric satisfaction when men and women meet.
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 12:36 AM
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Not only should the robots be banned, but men who want them should be legally required to instead be attracted to middle-aged female academics with doctorate degrees.
/r/MensRights16/09/15 12:22 AM
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Not that I'm defending them, but there is some logic behind the concept. It's all a matter of supply and demand. If the supply of pussy remains constant in it's current form (excessive feminism, bitchiness, lack of cooking/cleaning, etc), and demand for that pussy declines among the male population due to sex robots, then the value of that pussy falls. This can only result in two things, a shortage of dicks for those pussies, or women will have to change their behavior to be more feminine (and p…
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 12:16 AM
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It's the same reason prostitution is illegal, except this is far more dangerous for those that oppose it.
/r/MGTOW16/09/15 12:11 AM
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I agree there are tangible advantages to learning on an individual level what drives things and why things are the way they are. I'll read the book, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 04:39 AM
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So lets hypothetically say feminism lead to this collapse. Why did feminism develop across the world? If there's no way to avoid it, there's nothing to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 04:31 AM
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It's also not clear why complex systems collapse. It's an endless debate why the Romans collapsed.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/15 03:41 AM
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As a female with a normal bmi all you have to do is make an okcupid or match.com account and sit there waiting for someone in your town to message you. Women have it so easy sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 06:39 PM
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Looks simply mean less to women, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/15 06:34 PM
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They definitely tend to be a 'problem' as far as relationships go. The upside is that their SMV is artificially lowered by single motherhood and you can get with a pretty hot girl if you're aware of the issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 05:18 AM
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First sensible response yet. By all means go get an LTR, but TRP spinning of plates is the worst idea ever for the long run.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:50 AM
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To what end? Spinning plates till you're an old man? This won't end well.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:49 AM
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Nope, read the OP again. RPS said he would never be lifting if not for the need to get sex from women. So he's doing something he doesn't like just to get that pussy that he has on a pedestal. That is not circular reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:46 AM
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And I've yet to read how pump and dumps can be fulfilling either, and how that ends at age 45-55 should scare TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:45 AM
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At least you admit that you put it on a pedestal. Things you put on a pedestal are your slaves regardless of your rationalizations.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:44 AM
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How have I revealed myself? MGTOWs improve themselves, they just reject the notion that you must prioritize the chasing of pussy to live a good life.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/15 04:41 AM
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If you are doing certain things in your life, like lifting, that you wouldn't do ordinarily unless it upped your pussy attraction, you have that thing on a pedestal. You're obsessed with it, and there is no need for this obsession if you simply resort to prostitutes. Why jump through a hundred hoops to bang a chick?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 10:33 PM
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Do nothing That's a false choice. How about climbing Mount Everest or whatever it is that you want to accomplish? You're sitting here arguing with me right now, and you could be doing something else productive/enjoyable instead. How many hours have been wasted on this frivolous activity alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 09:46 PM
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Because gaming is a skill, but it's one built on natural born talent to some extent as well. The lost individuals that stream into TRP are unlikely to possess the capacity to game anybody due to selection bias. How many guys have you taught game? Just wondering what kind of sample size we're dealing with here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 09:43 PM
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We are animals, but we have a mental capacity that enables us to be so much more, ergo we prefer calling ourselves "human" rather than common animals with no dreams, no aspirations beyond the mundane and automatically programmed. If your dream is climbing Mount Everest then WTF are you doing on TRP? These drives are strong, I admit this, but I explained in my OP that there are better avenues to meet these needs, such as prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 09:36 PM
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One of the first things they teach you in business school is ROI or return on investment. Most people learn game on their own, and the ones that don't are unlikely to learn it via TRP. Furthermore, the few that do will not enjoy it. In other words you are like a unicorn example here. If you have a great relationship with a hot girl I am not talking about you specifically, but I am talking about most of the others in TRP chasing ass. Also, if you actually enjoy the chase then my comments are not …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/15 09:29 PM
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