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I went ahead and reported him. Enjoy the ducks!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:27 AM
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Just report the troll and don't engage.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:11 AM
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But it is our problem because it isn't women who suffer the consequences of female discomfort in social and dating situations. I don't know if you're just ranting or this is a CMV, so I can't really say much else past this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/23 12:09 AM
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Fit Feminine Friendly Fun Family oriented
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 05:18 PM
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Have your expectations. When they aren't met, blame yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:22 AM
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Please, tell us about your extensive experience as an average man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:20 AM
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No. Strawman harder, it's all FDS is good at.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:20 AM
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Wild take blaming the consumer rather than the supplier.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:19 AM
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You sure you wanna stand on that claim? Rates of female-perpetrated violence are higher than male-perpetrated (28.3% vs. 21.6%). Moreover, you know what couples have the most DV? Lesbians. Want to talk about war? women leaders have the same propensity for war as their male counterparts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:17 AM
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It's perfect for attractive men. Casual sex is encouraged and accepted and is accessible via apps like tinder. No more are the days that you had to sleep with the same person for your whole life. Hot college girls are encouraged to have a "hoe phase" so the hottest girls in society are down for casual sex. Women made this happen. Big thanks to feminism and the sexual liberation movement. If women are upset by this, they can always unionize the pussy like they did years ago. Men no longer have to…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/23 02:13 AM
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You equated it to castration. Not leaving me much room to give you the benefit of the doubt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 01:20 PM
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Tell me you don't know how a vasectomy works in a paragraph.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:19 PM
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That's a perfectly reasonable request.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/23 12:18 PM
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Okay. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:57 AM
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I've learned to look at people's posting history before I waste my time trying to convince them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 09:55 AM
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I guess your personal experience applies to the whole?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 02:44 AM
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If you don't get it, I'm not gonna make you understand it. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/08/23 12:24 AM
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Women go after men who are better than them so, by default, men date down.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:43 PM
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Horseshit. We care what the people who are important to us think about us.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 11:40 PM
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Men routinely date down. This isn't the hard question you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 10:02 PM
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Whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 05:16 PM
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Boo hoo. This isn't any surprise.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 03:07 PM
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You just described a quantity gap.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:35 PM
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Nobody feels sorry for women on dating apps.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:33 PM
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Whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/08/23 12:06 AM
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Actually who gives a damn about wat people think. We all do. Anyone who says they don't is either lying or has a developmental disorder. That's being a alpha. You just go ahead and define things to be whatever you want. I'm not gonna waste any more time on you. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:49 PM
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That's his life decision. Irrelevant comment. People make bad decisions all the time. Alpha doesn't mean perfection. Part of being "alpha" is being respected by other men. Literally every man here is telling you that he's a simp.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:46 PM
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He made a ho into a housewife. He's not alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:42 PM
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An ad hominem is an attack against you. I'm saying that you're talking nonsense. Look up what things mean before you say them. Then again, if you actually cared about reality and facts, you would not believe in bullshit astrology. Goodbye.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 11:35 PM
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Oh look, fucking nonsense
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 10:48 PM
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"Why did you have sex with my brother Amanda? I loved you!" "Oh you know, just Sag things! Tee hee!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 05:30 PM
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It's one of the last few acceptable things to remove accountability from your decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 01:26 PM
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"I don't want any responsibility for my decisions." -People who believe in astrology They're gross.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/23 01:26 PM
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And men can refuse sex. Doesn't change that women control access to sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:13 PM
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"men are the gatekeepers of marriage" isn't saying that every man alive has some mystical power to determine when he gets married. It's just saying that long term commitment is in the hands of men whereas sexual access is in the hands of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:33 PM
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An unattractive man is the gatekeeper of nothing, or at least nothing that anyone wants. I'll add to that - an unproductive man is even worse.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:31 PM
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It's funny. When RP says a well accepted truth that people can tolerate (women like fit men with money) then they mewl "you didn't need trp to know that, that's obvious!" But when you say a truth that is obvious to anyone who has witnessed marriage and it's history since FUCKING FOREVER, but it's one they don't like, then they want to pretend it's a RP concept. This is why I dont argue with blue-pilled people. I just go about my day comfortable in the knowledge that reality is in charge, not the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:30 PM
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Remind me - who does the majority of proposing in almost every society in the world? There's a reason for that. It's because marriage is the finish line for women. It's a man saying "congratulations, I've selected you out of every woman in the world to get my lifetime commitment of time, energy, resources, and attention." It's why women usually don't marry down. It's why women make a big deal about weddings. It's why dowries were traditionally paid to men by the families of the bride. Because a …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:27 PM
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I think you're doing it wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:39 PM
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Oh look, another strawman. Go awf kween, I guess. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:22 PM
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Did you mean to reply to me?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:05 PM
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So what's weird about guys who sleep on mattresses on the floor and work 20 hours a week finding such wild success at fucking women? Nothing is weird about it, it's just not what should be happening if women actually vetted men or cared about what they say they care about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 12:04 PM
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Reasonable people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:51 AM
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Okay. Whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:50 AM
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Do you think poor women don't want to fuck Literally nobody said that. Cool strawman. that every woman is a gold digger to prefer a rich and ugly guy to a handsome and poor one? Also nobody said that. Cool false dichotomy. If you're gonna reply, don't be full of shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:49 AM
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Yes but it’s not tied to physical attractiveness. I’ve been told I’m handsome, fine, cute, and I have a beautiful smile BUT, I was too short for those SAME women who have complemented my physical appearance. Hmmm. It's almost like height is a part of the equation.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:06 AM
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My girlfriend says that all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 11:00 AM
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Woah hold the fuck up... if I wasn’t matching with any of them, I’d work on myself more til I did. Did... Did you just accept responsibility for your dating outcomes and tie it to the effort you were willing to put into yourself? Holy shit. You just made my day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:59 AM
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Height doesn’t affect your physical appearance. Height is a physical attribute, thus it's directly tied to physical appearance.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:56 AM
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Was it eye opening? Now, imagine being a single woman who refuses to budge on her standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:55 AM
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You can't negotiate attraction. You can't change other people's standards. You can only deal with people as they are and choose whether or not you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:53 AM
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Whatever you say. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:42 AM
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Usually, we're at odds but you dropped some solid wisdom here: I don’t give anyone advice anymore. Because what people really want is any combination of 1) validation that they’re awesome and don’t need to do anything, 2) permission to blame other people 3) detailed instructions guaranteed to work or 4) pity/a fuck. And I’m not going to do that for an adult That's the exact reason I don't give advice. The most I'll do is tell people potential outcomes based on their courses of action.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:41 AM
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Cool strawman. Let me explain what they're actually saying: "We don't listen to women for dating advice because women, generally, don't have much experience at having to attract women. We'd rather listen to men who are succeeding at the thing we want to succeed at." Fixed that for you kween.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:38 AM
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Aside from the fact that you didn't even address their point and chose to make a puerile insult, I'll engage with this. You’re right it’s much better to take it from bitter red pilled dudes I'd much rather take advice from men who have seen the harsher and darker side of things because they're in a much better position to give me advice on things that I should avoid. If I go to women or blue pilled men who only see women and beautiful flawless angels, I'm going to get unrealistic advice and zero…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:35 AM
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We've covered this. I said that divorce stats make women look like what they are. If you think that villainous, then maybe they are villains. Either way, the stats don't lie. You're exhausting. Good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:16 AM
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Just because that research hasn't been done does not justify you making assumptions.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 10:13 AM
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You're speaking in generalizations and I can't? 🙄
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:41 AM
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Fire up the female delusion calculator and enter the common things women say they want in a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:11 AM
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If the 6 is already in your bed...
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 09:10 AM
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What does that have to do with my comment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 07:01 AM
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Well, you live your life. It isn't my place to tell you how to enjoy your hobbies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:09 AM
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Practice. You'll get there.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:07 AM
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We don't want to waste time on guys who are not genuine quality approaching us. Fair. We then turn around and tell ALL the guys how the genuine quality guys would act when approaching You make two assumptions here: That fuckboys listen to y'all. They don't. They have success with their playbook and don't need to deviate from it. That the things you tell "quality men" to do results in assured success. They don't. The things women tell men to do are merely to gain advantage - women will happily fu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 06:06 AM
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DO A FUCKING KICKFLIP
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 05:56 AM
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But where is the evidence? I dont have any data outside of who is initiating the divorce. And neither do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/23 02:25 AM
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Most people, men and women, still don’t cheat though Not the point. The ones that do, do it in equal rates so that can't be used as a metric on which gender commits more. Who officially filed the paperwork is also irrelevant to who caused the divorce, It's the only metric we have that we can track. Can you propose another that gives us a better indication as to who is leaving relationships? When you commit to someone it’s not “no matter what you do to me.” It’s “I want to be with you exclusively…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 11:01 PM
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Your race, once you hit an attractiveness and wealth threshold doesn't fucking matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:54 PM
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If it were easy, everyone would do it and it wouldn't be valued.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:54 PM
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TRP literally tells men that you cannot negotiate attraction and that you have to become physically attractive if you want your options to improve. Edit: and TRP doesn't tolerate excuses from men who don't want to put in the work. To quote the great Saint Kevin - "buy a dog and die alone."
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:52 PM
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Very few women don’t offer commitment in return. Women and men cheat at equal rates, and women end marriages 70% of the time. These two data sets indicate that women are far less loyal than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:34 PM
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I'll sympathize with you here. Being an unattractive woman is a special kind of hell because you see average women swimming in male attention. At least as a man, we can share our experiences with most other men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:48 PM
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If a 6 (which is above average) is giving me everything I need in a relationship, I'm not gonna expend unnecessary time, energy, or resources to pursue an 8. That attitude presumes that women are a central focus of my life and they just aren't. I've got shit to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:38 PM
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This is assuming that men are simply slaves to their wiring and can't make decisions on their own
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:33 PM
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“a man is as faithful as his options” No, TRP agrees with you. The caveat here is that, as a woman, it's your job to be his best option. I'll be the first to admit that men are sexually easy to sate. A man would rather reach across the bed to bang a 6 than go across the street to try to bang an 8. A man would rather go across the street to try to bang that 8 than go across town to try to bang a 9. A man would rather go across town to try to bang a 9 than go across the country to try to bang a 10…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:23 PM
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Men don't have commitment issues. Men are fucking built of commitment. We commit to jobs we hate for 40 years to secure comfort for our families. We commit to the hobbies that bring us joy. Some of us have literally laid down our lives for nothing more than commitment and duty. How many men have died to build the society that people take for granted? How many men labor to maintain this society that casually discards them once they no longer serve a purpose? Let's be real. Women who say this stup…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:17 PM
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Please, make good on your earlier threat and leave the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:05 PM
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Hot take, treating sex as a commodity. Better be careful or you're gonna catch some friendly fire.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:05 PM
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Right?!?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:04 PM
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Oh look, an FDSer suggesting women opt out. This take isn't the threat you think it is. We'd love misandrists to leave the dating pool. You'll have fun with each other - a bunch of leftovers screaming "yas kween, okay skurrt periodT" pretending like they don't want men when, in reality, they are bitter at men in general because the men that they feel they deserve don't want them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:02 PM
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Women know as much about masculinity as a fish does about fishing - the only time they encounter it is at the hook that applies to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 07:01 PM
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I love your flair
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:59 PM
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It's funny that you're okay with the assumptions that you agree with but you question the ones you don't. This is why we shouldn't make assumptions without evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:59 PM
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Have a nice day
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:49 AM
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It does make women look exactly like they are - the ones who leave marriages. It isn't me doing that. It's women. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:43 AM
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Did you mean to reply to me? Also, if you want to quote someone, you can use > at the start of a paragraph To make it look like this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:39 AM
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Yet you are making a judgement, deciding women are bad for initiating most divorces without knowing their reason. Find where I said women were bad. I simply said women initiate most divorces. Just because I don't make excuses that allow women to keep their halos doesn't mean I'm saying "women bad". I'm just looking at the data. That's all I'm asking you to do, yet you're still trying to tapdance and it's getting tiresome. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:35 AM
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Their reasons might be very fair and good, so making women look bad for wanting divorce is not a fair thing. And their reasons can also be wholly self serving. Unlike you, I don't make a default assumption of virtue or vice. I'm just running with the data we can prove. Second, I never said men couldn’t suffer in a marriage. But looking at what we are now, that women initiate divorce more, it made sense to say that probably these women aren’t happy in their marriage. Okay, and? Their happiness or…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:31 AM
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Your source doesn't say that. Help me out here - I skimmed it and I didn't see any statistics regarding infidelity. Edit: all it says is "They’re less likely to put up with abuse and infidelity. " Which isn't really a shocker, but it doesn't support your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:24 AM
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Did... Did I just agree with you? Wow. Red pill men and radfems unite against dumb takes. Maybe there is hope for world peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:23 AM
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Because the data doesn’t tell us WHY the divorce happens This is correct. You cannot make women the enemy for initiating divorce when you don’t know why they do it. It's what the numbers say. Or do you think they should stay in a relationship no matter what the man does? You're suffering from flawed thinking. You're presuming that only women suffer in bad marriages and that men don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:20 AM
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[Citation Needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:18 AM
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I’m not desputing your claim that divorce rates show that women initiate divorce more than men Good. Then why are you carrying water for someone who is making excuses to hand wave away the data?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 10:14 AM
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Lots of things probably don't make sense (not an insult, it's a commentary on the vast amounts of things we don't understand). So what? Like I said to the person I responded to - unless you can provide some other metric that we can track, divorce rate is the best one we can use to determine who initiates divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:53 AM
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So what I'm hearing is A wild strawman has appeared!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:50 AM
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Why do women want to get divorced? I'm not a mind reader. I can't make any assumptions without my bias creeping in so I rely on the things that exist independent of my bias. Specifically, the divorce rates and who filed for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:50 AM
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Divorce rate says what?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:48 AM
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You're not owed our masculinity after over two generations of deriding men for having it and medicating it out of our sons. Those of us left who do the things you claim men don't do, you will never find. Because we avoid misandrists. This is the world you created, enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:45 AM
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You can't assume that. I get that you want to assume that, because you'll try to deflect anything that makes women look exactly like they are. Unless you can present some other metric to track, this is the best one to determine who is to blame for divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 09:43 AM
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Women being selective isn't the problem with online dating. I'll go so far as to say that women being selective isn't even a problem IRL but that's a different conversation. The problem with online dating is the illusion of abundance. Women get dozens to hundreds of likes per day. This gives them the impression that they have dozens to hundreds of potential suitors, which demands they be selective - they cannot devote equal time and energy to every man that comes along. Now, there is a discussio…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/23 06:44 AM
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The people obsessed with them are the losers in the dating market who want to blame their lack of options on everyone and everything except themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 06:29 PM
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If you say so. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:41 PM
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No, that's absolutely not a replacement for human interaction. It doesn't even satisfy a base sexual need. Now you plug that AI into a sex robot and you've got a stew!
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:26 PM
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Lots of words to dodge the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 02:13 PM
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Fit over fat every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 09:53 AM
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I find most women attractive, so long as they aren't fat. When women look at men, they look at the things they dislike. When men look at women, we look at the things we like.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 09:51 AM
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You all want your careers to matter to men so FUCKING bad. Sorry, they don't make you more attractive to us.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/23 09:49 AM
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That's why, like every philosophy that has ever existed, you take what's useful and discard the rest. good things about TRP: you're responsible for your own outcomes You have to deal with the world as it is, not as you want it to be Nobody is coming to save you shitty things about TRP AWALT PUA bullshit
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:19 PM
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Game is amoral. With that said, lying is a losing strategy. You have to maintain the lie, which is both mentally and financially exhausting. Your energy would be better spent actually becoming the man you're pretending to be. Your reputation matters, and people talk. You might succeed once or twice, but when it gets out about how you move, you're finished... Even with women who would have dated you as you are. None of your male peers will respect you. You're the guy who lies to get laid, and it …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 11:01 PM
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If women can say that all men want is sex and then willingly make that choice, then they don't get to pretend that they were tricked into doing something they didn't want to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:46 PM
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Women: "all men want is sex!" Also women: "my body isn't a commodity!" Also women: "he tricked me into having sex! I feel so used.'
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 08:26 PM
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This is why talking to blue pilled people is a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 04:00 PM
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If you say so. Have a nice day
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:22 PM
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You're gonna think and do what you want. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:08 PM
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I didn't know we had someone who can see into the future.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:02 PM
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Well, unfortunately we live in a world that feeds "body positivity" and "CONSUME" and all sorts of other feel good shit to us on a daily basis. A lot of men believe the programming and can't figure out why they aren't getting results. Some men can figure it out but don't know how to fix it. That's where TRP comes in. I've said this before and I'll say it again: TRP is for losers. You don't enter into recovery unless you're an addict. You don't (generally) see a doctor unless something is wrong. …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 03:01 PM
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/sigh You wouldn't know what a man who has internalized TRP looks like. We don't go around spouting TRP slogans and wearing a uniform...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:54 PM
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it's borderline misogynistic That word means nothing to me. It's been over used in place of "men saying and doing things I don't like" so I don't really listen when I hear it. Moreover, if a woman thinks I'm mYsOgYNiST then she is free to not associate with me. Usually the types who think that are the very ones that I go out of my way to avoid. girls usually find it disgusting Yeah. Women fucking hate fit, confident, well-groomed, masculine men who have their lives together. I mean, how many wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:41 PM
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It's pointless to debate it. Men can either choose to do it and find success or they can choose not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:37 PM
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Like I said. You wouldn't know us if you saw us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:35 PM
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You wouldn't know what a man who has internalized TRP looks like. We don't go around spouting TRP slogans and wearing a uniform... Most of us have a quiet confidence that comes from internal mastery.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:33 PM
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Yep. TRP works. I mean, what part of "make money and get muscles" is unattractive to women? The first thing we tell men is "women are gonna want what they want, you can't change their preferences." Then we tell them to hit the gym, and make fucking money.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/23 02:25 PM
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You didn't meet men who were assholes because of RP philosophy. You met assholes who were into RP philosophy. If you met an asshole at a baseball game, you wouldn't assume that liking baseball made him an asshole. But to address your point: from what I saw once they got into RP their friends distanced themselves. This has an air of truth. Once I started looking at the world differently, my "friends" did distance themselves from me. They did it because I was changing my life for the better - I cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:46 AM
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All bets are off and usual rules don't apply when a man or woman is truly top tier. Bingo. Once you cross a certain threshold, race stops being a barrier. Racism is for poor people.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:30 AM
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Most black women are bitter that the men in our community that they want to date, marry, and have kids with don't want them back because they don't qualify. 🤷🏿‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:28 AM
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Every tall man knows this. As soon as the women gets comfortable they absolutely dress down short men. Fucking Christ this is the truth and it pisses me off when I hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:23 AM
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I'm glad that this thread has not gone the way I expected it to.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/23 10:19 AM
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Any self respecting woman will see you as a creep for propositioning them like a prostitute But you told me that being honest was good. Guess that was a lie. That's cool. I didn't expect logical consistency.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 10:10 PM
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Even propositioning a woman by saying, “if I buy you dinner, will you F me?’ It crude, but at least it’s honest instead of a covert contract So wait, women want to be approached like prostitutes? It's all so confusing. Don’t pay for her dinner AT ALL. Inform FDS that the playbook is undergoing a revision.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 09:50 PM
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Why not go to an actual prostitute and buy sex then? Y'all need to have a team meeting and pick a fucking lane. Are we supposed to fight prostitution because it "exploits women" or are prostitutes cool now? I can't really keep up with le message du jour. If the man feels he gets nothing, then ask to go Dutch on a date. Again, have a damn team meeting and figure out what the rules are. Is Dutch acceptable now, or is that still "LVM" behavior?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 09:40 PM
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They don’t see women as human beings /Eyeroll
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 09:36 PM
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Your position is contingent upon two flawed ideas: That women get nothing from sex That women are ignorant of the risks of sex If you want to make a direct comparison, the man loses resources for no personal gain whatsoever. The OP is using the comparison to describe how people feel and y'all are hung up on the literal exchange aspect because y'all don't want to discuss what OP is saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 09:33 PM
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I get that you feel this way, but why are you arguing with me and not OP?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 09:27 PM
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They are not literally the same. OP is making the comparison to explain the feeling of how men get used vs how women feel like they get used.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 09:13 PM
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Yuck Emotional responses aren't a thing worth debating Not equivalent at all. Pretty equivalent, why do you not think so?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 08:16 PM
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If that's how you read it, that's up to you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 05:01 PM
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I'm sorry. Loneliness is a monster that is hard to grapple with.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 01:00 PM
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So if I shit on, hypothetically, rapists... Am I "vIrTue SignAlInG"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 03:33 AM
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Be up front.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 12:05 AM
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I think you need to look up words before you use them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/23 12:02 AM
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Okay. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:41 PM
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The idea that women suck and you have to put them in their place to get women are the "hard parts" of the Red Pill. I wanted to reply to this specifically. Those are the easy parts because it allows men to externalize their failures with women. It isn't hard to push those parts because people are very receptive to "it isn't your fault, it's someone else's" messaging. The hard parts are the ones that demand accountability, improvement, discipline, hard work, and delayed gratification. Those are t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 08:13 PM
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I don't argue against strawmen. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 07:13 PM
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If you're a man and you're letting this shit happen to you, you're a punk. Have some damn self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:11 PM
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I'm gonna call horseshit. A healthy, self-actualized man is deeply in touch with his emotions. Because understanding his emotions gives him the power to control them. A man should be able to understand the things he's feeling so that he can manage them and navigate acceptable courses of action. The men we see in prisons are men who cannot manage their emotions and allow them to dictate their actions. As men, rightly or not, we are held to a higher standard of behavior and we can't allow our feel…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:10 PM
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You seem to be pretty against marriage and men, but you're also into FDS talking points. It's just confusing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:58 PM
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You tell us the FDS take on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:55 PM
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Traditional Women Nowadays This is an oxymoron. If you are speaking about "nowadays" then you're describing modern women, not traditional. This flaw permeates your whole post. I will point out your flawed premises. Have to work a regular job. (Most men aren't willing to provide for a women fully and let her be a stay at home mom) Traditional women did not work. You're mixing traditional and modern roles to create an amalgam that supports your position. Have to work hard to make any financial gai…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:56 PM
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Your inability to recognize a strawman when it's pointed out isn't our problem to manage. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:14 PM
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“Not only is a better world impossible, the current state of things is good, actually.” Nowhere does RP come close to saying this. Why even try to debate if you can't be honest?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 12:30 PM
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Men, if anyone in particular Please list some laws that have been passed for the exclusive benefit of men. I don't know and I don't know why this is supposed to convince me anything about matriarchy. One of the definitions of matriarch: the state of being an older, powerful woman in a family or group. I included it to cover that interpretation. Nobody is forced but men are more attached to their gender roles because they're set up for men to benefit from them. Men aren't forced? Please show me w…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 11:14 AM
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People can be both rational agents but also exist in the context of a societies socialisation and discourse. The same thing applies to men. This sounds like an excuse and a way to absolve women of their responsibility. This is just not true. Do women not make up the majority of the population and registered voters? Men have most of the wealth and hold most of the positions of political power. Women control spending and have a majority in voting. That's just a fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 06:42 AM
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Yes, there are unpredictable things that occur. But to be in the position for them to affect us requires us to make the choices to be there.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:52 AM
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Excuses. You say that men and women can be biased against female leaders, but that acts as if women are incapable of independent thought and analysis. Edit: don't forget that women control the majority of economic and political power
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 05:49 AM
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If you say so. Have a nice night. Edit: in case you didn't get it, that's me dismissing you. Maybe try debating next time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:14 AM
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Oh look, excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:12 AM
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No matriarchal society would ever let porn exist in the form it does Wild. Remind me, is OnlySimps full of sex slaves? No. Almost like women willingly and happily trade sex for resources and have been doing so since the first man traded the first fish to touch the first tit. Blaming men for porn is like blaming the drug addict for the addiction and ignoring the supplier. Men in a matriarchal society wouldn't be jerking off to the physical, verbal, and sexual abuse of women that would often be a …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 04:05 AM
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sigh Most CEOs are men. Sigh most men 99.999% aren't CEOs. Men aren't complaining about an imaginary wage gap. I don't know if you're saying the wage gap is imaginary or what. Can you clarify this point?p The highest paid actors in Hollywood are male. How is this evidence of anything except supply and demand? Women spend more money than men on luxury and entertainment. Maybe they should support their sisters in arms? Male actors aren't complaining about an imaginary wage gap in Hollywood I don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 03:19 AM
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he said that the first thing he was attracted to was my face and shape and the way i dressed, Feminine attributes. What's the lesson here? Being fit and feminine is what attracts a man. That's the way in. but as he went on a date with me and got to know me he loved the fact that i was intelligent and how much of a big heart i have for everyone in my life. Then he got to know you and liked you even more. Notice what wasn't on that list? Your career, education, and cats. loads of men do care about…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:56 AM
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You too!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:30 AM
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There's never been a woman president. And who has the majority of the voting power?? If women vote to politically empower men, is it still "patriarchy?" Most politicians are male. Same as above. Moreover, are there some sort of laws preventing women from running for office? Men make laws pertaining to women. You mean laws that benefit women that would never fly in a patriarchy? If this were a patriarchy, then why would those evil men pass laws that benefit women when it would not gain them a sin…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:29 AM
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I'd argue that we are already in a matriarchal society. Who do most laws benefit? How many households are run by single moms? Which gender is forced to uphold their gender roles vs which gender has the freedom to choose how they want to move through society? Sure, a narrow percentage of men sit at the "top", but 99.9% of us are under their thumb just as much, if not more (because men have to produce) than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:19 AM
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I try to be. Sometimes my bias gets in the way though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:11 AM
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So many things you read from this sub about women is wrong and regurgitated crap from men who do not have any experience with women at all. Such as? I'll let you in on a secret - most of the guys who are red pilled got there specifically because of having experiences with women. Blue pilled men are the ones with no experience to counter-balance the blue pill programming. I just got engaged. Congratulations. You're on the way to putting one in the "W" column (we keep score in marriages over here,…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 02:02 AM
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Personally, I'm fine. But I'm aware that I sit at the intersection of a lot of attractive traits (tall, fit, handsome, economically secure, neuro-typical, successful) that make people want to be around me. The average man simply doesn't have the same access to a social life that most women, even below average ones, do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:15 AM
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Because most of the time, it's for the audience.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 01:11 AM
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TRP is hard to swallow because it essentially boils down to "this is reality, deal with it on its terms." A lot of people see TRP as men bashing women, but the people (mostly women) who think that don't see the other side of the coin. They don't see: You're responsible for your own outcomes You won't get shit from life unless you earn it, and maybe not even then The world doesnt have a safety net for men, and it's a long way down Unless you're productive, you don't matter to society Winners are …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/23 12:22 AM
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If everyone did it, yes. But we've crossed the Rubicon and that will never happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:17 PM
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Most of those guys with have a majority gay audience, as guys are much more visual than women. So a tiny minority of OF content providers (men) are catering to a largely underserved market (gay men) and you're surprised they're making money?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 06:30 PM
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If that's an assumption you need to make to avoid the evidence in front of you, then you do what you gotta do. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:48 AM
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You mean if I don't just accept you at your word when you made a claim that I don't believe? Okay then, have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:47 AM
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Fucking zero. After all, they just "need to take a shower, learn social skills, and touch grass" or whatever useless tone-deaf advice that women give incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:44 AM
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Swipe? Yes. Extended conversations and phone numbers? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:42 AM
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The only women who have a problem with men leaving are the women at the bottom of the dating market. The winners don't have an issue with it because there are plenty of men for them to choose from.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:38 AM
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You cannot force others to do things they don't want to. But way to casually dismiss the whole post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:34 AM
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You have to make that assumption to avoid the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:33 AM
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I don't know how you took that away from this, but I guess you have to if you need to avoid my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:29 AM
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You: /makes claim Me: "Show me" You: /tells me to do your legwork
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:28 AM
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Duh. The point I'm supporting is that there are no women who are involuntarily celibate.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/23 11:27 AM
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Show me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 10:39 PM
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10/10 would read.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:43 PM
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Fuck yes you do. Have a blast!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:37 PM
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Yes, the pig woman is a photo shop. The responses are the point my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 05:20 PM
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Okay, have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:32 PM
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"Took shower. Put on clean clothes. Stepped outside. No pussy has rained down upon me as of time of writing. Further guidance requested." If your big answer is "take a shower, change your clothes, and go outside" then why hasn't it been implemented and the scourge of forever alone men been erased? Are you implying that men are simply unwilling to do these things?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:14 PM
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And I'm telling you that it's not the definition regardless of how people misuse it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:03 PM
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Words have meanings. You don't get to use a word then attach whatever you want to it. That's the road to madness
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:01 PM
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There are no femcels. There are only women that refuse to date the men they qualify for. If the pig woman (don't look unless you want to be disgusted and disappointed) can get men trying to fuck her, literally every woman can. Now, inspins (women who cannot get men to commit) exist, but they suffer from a similar set of problems that incels do and I show them just as much grace and sympathy that women show incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 04:01 PM
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But men will also never experience the trauma (the rapes, sexual assaults, sexual harassment etc) of being a woman. Men are raped, assaulted harassed and harassed too. The difference is that when it happens to women, it's taken seriously but when it comes to men experiencing those things, there are still people that say things like "men will also never experience the trauma (the rapes, sexual assaults, sexual harassment etc) of being a woman." Many women are lonely as well. I didn't say "lonely"…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 03:56 PM
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I'd just have one wish: for women to live a year as men. We can't adequately explain it because women will, generally, never experience the overwhelming solitude that most men feel. Then again, the last person who tried that was so traumatized that she Ctrl+alt+deleted so maybe that's not such a good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:37 AM
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In what ways do women, in general, compromise more than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/23 11:23 AM
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My question is, how do you value yourself My feelings about myself are irrelevant to my actual value. Anyone can delude themselves. how do you think society values you? Based on various outcomes, I'd say that I'm fairly valuable. What makes those value judgements different and do you think they are correct? Outcomes are usually a good indicator of value. A person who is paid well is valued for their contribution to society. A person who has lots of sexual options is valued in the dating market. …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 09:59 PM
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I'm gonna blow your mind, but it doesn't matter how much we think our worth is. Our worth is entirely determined by the people around us and our value to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 09:53 PM
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I'm with you. Self love is easy and any asshole can do it. Self respect means that you are willing to do that hard work of improving on your weaknesses and deficiencies.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 09:51 PM
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As the kids say: this man is cooking. LET HIM COOK
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 09:50 PM
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If you say so. Have a nice day
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 03:46 PM
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Don't listen these NPC's Good way to show you're here with an open mind. Also, you accidentally a word there. If I go on a date with a virgin( which I personally wouldn't, I have championship level dick, I don't waste that on fucking rookies) I chuckled, not because I don't believe you but because I can relate. I'd try to see if sex was an option on the first date. If I went on a date with a woman that had Been with 30 men, I'd try to see if sex was an option on the first date. I'm a bit more di…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:18 PM
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Just because a man may not view a woman as relationship material that doesn’t mean he treats her poorly This is true. One of my good acquaintances is, arguably, the most promiscuous woman I've ever met in my life. But there's no reason for me not to be nice to her and share a drink or two. One evening, I gave her drunk ass a ride home (because we don't drink and drive on this team) and she asked me "why have we never dated?" I politely told her that our lifestyles aren't compatible and told her …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:05 PM
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Either way there isn't a standard that defines the entire RP community. Then how the hell can you assert that RP is rooted in Christianity. You're all over the place here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 09:12 AM
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Can't be a Christian if you actually care about reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 09:10 AM
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Yes, please don't listen to men about what men want.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 03:09 AM
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Whatever gets the canoe up the river.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 03:08 AM
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Seems like the adage is true…men will only ever view women through the context of two categories: as the Virgin Mary (the virgin) or as Mary Magdalene (the whore). You suffer from a case of selective reading. I even said throughout the entire conversation that there are gray areas where most people live, and that the extremes were chosen because we're discussing a range, not a binary choice. It’s just ironic that you yourself would never accept a woman who meets the standards that you live your …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 02:21 AM
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IMO, people who make IQ judgments about others usually aren't qualified to do so.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:56 AM
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Yep, and we've come full circle - it's the actions that determine how you're treated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:04 AM
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Except most women are in the gray areas I've acknowledged this. I was speaking on the extreme ends because we don't have time to address every unique circumstance. You don’t know her sexual history or how soon she usually sleeps with guys, I really don't need to know exact numbers. See, the wild thing is that if you're observant and spend time listening, you get an accurate feel for who the fast girls are and who they aren't. Because women are just as complex as men, not one-dimensional, black-a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 01:02 AM
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Not really. If you don’t like the party behaviors why are you going to these places. I can enjoy an environment without immersion. I enjoy a good thunderstorm. I'm not gonna go get soaked. I think if you regular go to parties, enjoy them, you’d be considered a party boy. Like you’re there obviously enjoying the atmosphere. If I'm enjoying the atmosphere but not partaking of certain things, who cares what others think? I know what I'm about and the people there do too. I don’t get disqualifying t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:59 AM
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Ehhh see that’s not how most people would see it And how do you think most people would see it? Are you waiting to see these girls do coke before you label them? Or are you assuming that because they are in a certain place with certain people they must be a certain way? If you know what you're looking for, you'll know what it is when you see it. Are the women disqualified by virtue of being at the place party girls frequent? Locations are, generally, agnostic but they tend to draw a certain crow…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:50 AM
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So why are the party girls not partner quality Because they have habits that disqualify them from entry into my inner circle. I like their company well enough, but not enough to let them get close enough to me where their habits and addictions can leave me exposed. you, as a party boy, consider yourself to be partner quality? I'm not a "party boy". Just because I'm in the environment doesn't mean I partake. The most I do is drink my scotch, smoke my pipe, and make conversation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:42 AM
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You are a man that frequents the party scene. So much so, that your regular “conquests” are party girl varieties who are pretty, adventurous, and fun. You meet a party girl who is nice to you, she genuinely likes you and shows her interest by engaging and reaching out to you to make sure you guys can get some “quality time” in. I am actually that guy, so I can speak to this. I am cordial and polite to everyone. Man, woman, young, old, saint or slut. But these women don't get my quality time beca…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:37 AM
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i’d never expect anyone to compromise their values, as i wouldn’t compromise my own. You're conflating terms. I'm not saying compromise your values. I'm saying that modern women expect men to not want the things they value in partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:26 AM
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But why are those the only two options that men present in their discussions? Because we're discussing a range. We can't sit here and go through every permutation of behavior. We'd be here all fucking day. The majority of women I know have had between 0 and 4 partners. And I live in a blue state in a blue county in a blue city. Your personal experience is not indicative of the whole. Does the virgin get treated well while the lady who had 2 partners over the course of 10 years get treated like s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:23 AM
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If you're looking for a mathematical proof, you won't find one. That's the problem with women - rather than sit back and say "hmmm am I any of these things? Maybe I should change" they just argue and continue doing whatever the hell they want to do. Going back to my original post: Asking the question is pointless because modern women don't listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:20 AM
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There’s middle grounds for everyone. Yes, which we agree on. I mean I even said so in an earlier reply. Men that go to places with coked up party girls then complain how all women seem to be coked up party girls undeserving of actual respect are really just setting themselves up for failure. That doesn't happen. Men who go after those girls aren't looking to marry them because they know that those girls are only good for one thing. Men get the women they ask for in their actions That's fair. I'l…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:18 AM
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Generally, men want women who: Aren't fat Aren't masculine Aren't bitchy Aren't promiscuous That's it! Most other things are negotiable. Modern women in westernized countries tend to be some combination of the four, and expect men to deal with them as they are rather than trying to maybe work on themselves to get the caliber of men that they feel entitled to. It's funny, because you will never see a fat, feminine, asshole, broke man saying to women "Take me as I am, I'm a 10 and I won't compromi…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:13 AM
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…most women aren’t coked up party girls though. Obviously. Your nitpick misses the point. It also is important to point out that if you’re meeting a lot of coked up party girls, maybe you’re just going to places where coked up party girls are. Okay, and? How is this relevant to my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:12 AM
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Your username is ironic considering the question. Just thought that was funny. So there’s no middle ground? Life is full of gray areas. I'm just saying that women get the treatment that they ask for through their actions. If you're a virgin and demure most men will move respectfully around you. If you're a coked up party girl, expect men to see you as such and move accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:06 AM
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Speaking as an INTJ, you're appreciated.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:03 AM
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Virgins get treated like virgins. Party girls get treated like party girls.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:02 AM
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This question is pointless because men have been screaming what they want from women who desire to be wives for ages. Modern women simply don't want to listen and instead want men to compromise the things they value.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/23 12:01 AM
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someone who can legally talk to your doctor for you when your parents are gone. durable power of attorney for health care eventually, everyone gets old. it’s nice to have family You don't need to be married to have a family
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 10:45 PM
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I'd love to see you find a man here telling women that they should join these harems.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:18 PM
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No, women do not have to learn to share a man. Yet y'all find attached men more attractive. There are plenty of men to go around, if we want one Yes there are. It isn't men encouraging women to only go after a small percentage of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:10 PM
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What tangible benefit does a modern man get from being married that he cannot get otherwise? And does it outweigh the massive liability he takes on in exchange?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:37 PM
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You are technically correct. I should have worded that differently to read "one thing that benefits a man"
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:23 PM
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To this day, women cannot name one single thing a man needs to be married to get that he cannot get without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:18 PM
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To this day, women cannot name one single thing a man needs to be married to get that he cannot get without it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 06:16 PM
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I've explained it enough times for even the slowest learner to grasp. At this point you're being intentionally obtuse and I don't have time for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:07 PM
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Well then how come I myself slept with a guy just last week that I wasn’t sexually attracted to whatsoever? If you were sexual aroused and you gave consent you were sexually attracted enough to him to do it. People have been known to orgasm while being raped, are you saying it has to be because those people were sexually attracted to their perpetrators? Again, you people can't seem to read anything past "ok skurrt". What part of "sexual arousal + consent = sexual attraction" don't you understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 04:02 PM
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If they're sexually aroused and they're consenting then they're sexually attracted to you. Why are you people unable to get this?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 03:40 PM
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they would quickly see that there aren't that many matches Ffs
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 11:35 AM
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We can't all have good taste 😉🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:59 AM
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I just want to take this opportunity to say how much I love rollercoasters.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 09:43 AM
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Dating apps are designed to keep men paying. If you're expecting fairness from that business model, I've got a bridge to sell you. To your question: if men were really allowed to set their parameters, most would set 18-28, no kids, not obese. They would quickly see that there aren't that many matches and quickly move on from the app to more productive things. Get off apps
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/23 08:49 AM
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Whatever you say. Have a good day
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 10:52 PM
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Right out the gate with strawmen. Edit: this reads a lot like someone who used to post here and given the fact that your account was created today...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 08:45 PM
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Whatever you say buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 12:08 PM
1

If you're not smart enough to understand that skin color plays differently in different parts of the world, you're not smart enough to understand when it's explained to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/23 02:51 AM
1

Oh I'm good. Thank you for asking!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 08:04 PM
2

Tragic. There's a world full of sophisticated black men that would love to meet you. Best of luck to you though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 07:01 PM
1

Hi. Question - how do you feel about men who smoke pipes?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:50 PM
1

I'm an attractive man. I'd say 40%, in racist ass America. 80% in Kenya.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:50 PM
2

Do what you want
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/23 06:05 PM
2

Lol when I was a young man, I'd constantly get out gamed by older men who had their shit together. I didn't "shame" them because I knew what it was - women like what they like and nothing I could say or do could touch those men. Now that I'm an older man and crushing the lower brackets (well, not anymore, I'm in a relationship) I tell these young boys the hard truths: You can't beat money. It gives things that you can't at your age. You can't beat experience. I've been in the game longer than yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:19 PM
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Generally, older women are not as valuable as their younger counterparts. They make the mistake of thinking that "experience" and "maturity" or their net worth adds to their SMV. Those things help men, but they're a detriment to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:07 PM
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As a man who is neither autistic, overweight, too young, etc I can attest that the dating market is skewed. While I, personally, don't have problems I know that I sit at the intersection of a lot of attractive traits and that men who don't have these things (you know, average men) do struggle and a lot of them don't know why.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:05 PM
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or when she's complaining about the consequences of it. I have a female associate who is exceptionally promiscuous. I don't shame her though, because she never bitches about the outcomes of her choices. I can respect someone who takes their lumps. We just laugh about it and pour another bourbon.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 06:00 PM
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Men, in general,are shamed enough just for having the audacity to have standards. The men who should be shamed are simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:58 PM
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Men will have casual sex with a much wider group of women. Women, even when wanting casual sex, will still choose a narrow set of men to have it with.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/23 05:41 PM
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Ion
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 11:37 PM
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Oooh someone is in his feelings. So masculine!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 11:25 PM
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Understand that I can't speak for all men, only myself and in generalities. Why is submission from a woman integral to a relationship? Because someone has to be the one who bears the responsibility, and it's usually the man. If I'm accepting the responsibility, I need the authority that comes with it. Now, this isn't in all areas at all times. When it comes to my son, I don't undermine or second guess his mother because she has the primary responsibility for his upbringing. What makes you think …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 07:05 PM
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As a man, who is statistically a lot more physically manly than a major majority of people on this sub Calm down there badass, save some pussy for the rest of us!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/07/23 06:56 PM
1

I don't get what you're saying. Can you clarify?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 06:30 PM
1

Whatever you say buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 02:25 PM
1

Ultimately, if that is what you want then by all means have at it. Ultimately, I can't make you decide that you deserve better and it doesn't affect me outside of the fact that it gives these women an example of girls who used to give happy endings getting a happy ending.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 09:08 AM
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It isn't like women are openly saying it. I mean, that would be crazy if someone wrote an article about a study.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:43 AM
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You are right. The rest is just antidote after antidote, and the poison is blue-pilled thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:40 AM
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So if a man marries a woman who is infertile, even if otherwise "unspoiled", he's merely a simp of a different variety, yes? Only if he desires children. Usually the word "simp" is related to the stupid choices men make for sex though. And the same goes for people who simply marry with no intention of having children? Again, this is more tied to sexual behavior. I mentioned reproduction because, traditionally, that's what marriage was meant to assure - legitimate offspring. and had 50 sexual par…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 08:19 AM
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If you're not successful in your relationships, odds are that you're the problem. It's a hard truth, but given the raw numbers of people in the world you're statistically likely to find a few people you can date. Work on yourself rather than blame your parents for how you treat others.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:55 AM
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Her value to you, and other men who feel the same as you, is diminished by her sexual and relationship history, which demonstrably proves anyone marrying her is getting suckered into a raw deal, as they gain nothing "exclusive" in exchange for their commitment and resources. This is accurate. Marriage is, ostensibly, a lifetime commitment of resources, protection, and provisioning from a man in exchange for exclusive sexual access to a woman in return. If she and the man she marries disagree wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 07:50 AM
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If I could turn it off, I would. Sexual attraction causes me to make allowances for women that I would normally not make. Biological hardwiring is a damn bear to overcome.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 04:53 AM
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I did, you just didn't like it. No matter, you're wasting my time at this point. Have a good evening.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 04:47 AM
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I answered your question. Answer mine: Give me a good reason for a man to offer up commitment and monogamy to a woman when other men have had the same level of access without doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 03:54 AM
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Literally all the things that come with a relationship. Give me a good reason for a man to offer up commitment and monogamy to a woman when other men have had the same level of access without doing so.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 01:28 AM
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an online subculture of people who define themselves as unable to get a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one. That's the definition. Discussions in incel forums are often characterized by resentment, misogyny, misanthropy, self-pity and self-loathing, racism, a sense of entitlement to sex, and the endorsement of violence against women and sexually active people. This describes the features of their forums. There is a difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/23 12:14 AM
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Because people here use it interchangeably with "a man saying things I don't like" and it's often leveled at men who have a healthy sex life.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:19 PM
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The nice thing is that I don't have to make that trade off.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:05 PM
2

That's really great, let's f* our brains out then, no strings attached. Never take any woman seriously again! 😁 That's what most of us are doing, because this is the future women have chosen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:01 PM
2

What does an incel act like? Because, by definition it is only tied to if a man is having sex
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 11:00 PM
3

Convenient for you to change the definition on a whim to win an argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 10:57 PM
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What we know about them is that they paid full price for things other men have had access to for free. Maybe not cucks, but definitely simps.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 10:53 PM
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Conditional femininity has entered the chat
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 06:18 PM
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I don't give traditional behavior to modern women. They don't deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 06:16 PM
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A lot of women fuck because they like the feeling of fucking. Sorry that you can't seem to grasp that women can enjoy sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 04:43 PM
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I can't really reply to this in a way that doesn't come off as a personal attack, but plenty of women absolutely love recreational sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 03:48 PM
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Let him hopefully never find out what that feels like.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:56 PM
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If they're not fat, I don't see a problem with dating them if you're not looking to have kids or start a family. My current girlfriend is 42.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 01:55 PM
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And this is one of the reasons that I, and others, don't engage with you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 09:32 AM
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B R U T A L I Z E D. But yes, this is the answer - men shape themselves to get the best outcomes in a dating market decided by women. This is true for most mammals. If they want rugged masculinity, then maybe they should start rewarding it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 09:30 AM
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Honestly, I'm just here to see you get eaten alive by your team, because your arguments are pretty easy to flip around to women. You think broke men shouldn't date? Neither should physically unappealing women. You think men only have value insofar as their ability to provide resources? Women who can't reproduce are useless to society. It's gonna be good.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:42 AM
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Many men do because most men don't factor in a woman's net worth when choosing partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/23 12:35 AM
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I suppose it depends on the person. A winner is you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 08:25 PM
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I've already said what I'm going to say to you. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 08:24 PM
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No you don't. You and I have engaged before and you argue in bad faith. I'd have blocked you if it weren't against the rules of this subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:35 PM
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What's it matter to you? I'm not accountable to you. Moreover, it's irrelevant to the comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:02 PM
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You're playing this up as something it isn't and it's a waste of my time. Have a nice day
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 07:00 PM
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Excuses for conditional femininity. Imagine a man making a similar argument. Wild.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 06:41 PM
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It's like you didn't even read what I typed. You said: You can leave the dating market and there won't be anything expected of you. Did you miss where I said: Men have to do it, or we are left out the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 06:40 PM
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Oh I'm aware of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 05:06 PM
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As a man, I'm expected to uphold my traditional gender roles. You notice that men can't say "I'll be comfortable in my masculinity if the right woman brings it out of me"? Because it's fucking retarded. Only women get the option to choose if they want to adhere to gender roles. Men have to do it, or we are left out the dating market.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 04:37 PM
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Look at Professor X over here, reading minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 02:14 PM
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This is a garbage take. If you have a spouse, barring physical abuse, you stay with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 09:56 AM
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ITT: a lot of women who have been cheated on because they choose the type of men who have no problem with cheating. If you want a man who is loyal date on your level.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 01:47 AM
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No. Most men honor their agreements.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/23 01:46 AM
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It's done
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:48 PM
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What a glaringly dishonest take. It's just funny because everyone here sees it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:10 PM
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They want the perks that come with being a traditional woman from high-value men, but they want the freedom to persist being low-value modern women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 10:37 AM
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Personally I have no problems with gender roles if both parties adhere to the roles. The problem is that women expect men to uphold their roles while abandoning theirs when it's convenient.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 06:42 AM
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Hopefully her experience taught her something valuable.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:36 AM
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I don't go on dates with women who think like you. I don't date much anyways, seeing as I'm in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 05:36 AM
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Yeah. Sometimes it leaks though and you get it on your shoes.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:58 AM
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If you see it, you can't unsee it. You've been warned.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:51 AM
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Reasonable ✓ Nuanced ✓
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:47 AM
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We don't. But we do care about being used for ours with nothing given in return. Dating women is, usually, a shitty ROI.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:46 AM
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I'm quite well off. But, like most people, I don't like getting taken advantage of. Unlike most men, I'm aware of how women do it with no remorse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:45 AM
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Now, that's definitely stuck up Diva with the emotional maturity of a 15 year old shit. It's pure FDS and there's a reason all those kweens are single.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:43 AM
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Yes, we are. Yet so many women can't seem to figure it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:42 AM
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I don't spend shit on first dates. Why? Because broke girls make finessing men a sport.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:41 AM
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So you're broke but you don't want a broke man. At least you're honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:38 AM
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It's a literal physical response paired with consent. Read before responding.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 04:33 AM
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Woman does things that men say they like. Woman gets man. Chaos ensues in comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 03:57 AM
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The difference between me and you is I'm actually asking a clarification question whereas you aren't. No matter. You've repeatedly shown who you are. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:54 AM
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Which RP men are in a position to pay all the bills for an obedient sugar baby? Most men here still live at home and work in tech support or delivery. This isn't an answer to my question. I don’t subscribe to RP fantasies of attractive, obedient mail order brides half their age. This is a pointless strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:41 AM
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You don't think women want men to come into their lives and take care of all the bills? Is that what you're seriously thinking?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:32 AM
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He told you why and you're just going with your own narrative
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:07 AM
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Men also don’t appreciate it when an adult male in their home behaves like a dependent child. Neither do platonic roommates. Single men do what is required to take care of their home and responsibilities, when they stop because a woman appears in their life they’ve placed her in the role of mommy. Women also don't appreciate it when an adult woman in their home behaves like a dependent child. Neither do platonic roommates. Single women do what is required to take care of their home and responsib…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 02:06 AM
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Guys, Get your shit together before you start blaming your dating failures on things you can't control. Your dating life might not improve (because effort doesn't assure outcomes) but you'll be much happier.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/23 01:57 AM
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This is dumb on its face. Imagine a group that repulses you. Now imagine trying to force yourself to find them attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:46 PM
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Don't. I don't give a shit how you live your life
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 11:24 AM
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That's over 3 million women Doesn't change the percentage. Also, as a woman with PCOS it doesn't Thank you for being honest It's a damn sight harder to keep the weight off as we age, which is normal anyway Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 11:23 AM
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And it's never been good to be unremarkable. People (especially women) aren't generally attracted to unremarkable.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:46 AM
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"exceptional" and "unremarkable" are comparative terms based on your market. It's never been good to be unremarkable, but now the threshold for it is far wider due to the prevalence of the internet and the way money and status opens up access.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:39 AM
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Thank you for engaging. No sarcasm. PCOS affects only 6%-12% of women, meaning that it is not common.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 10:29 AM
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Okay buddy. You can stay in your head about it. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 08:54 AM
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R/lostredditors
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/23 06:09 AM
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You must be in one of those shit hole southern states (I am too 🤮)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:04 PM
1

That's actually a hell of a win.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:01 PM
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Whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:55 PM
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If you can't back up your excuse making, that's fine. Really doesn't hurt me. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:50 PM
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Your link doesn't back up your assertion, otherwise we wouldn't be here.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:48 PM
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Demonstrate your assertion.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:44 PM
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I already listed them. And they are very common. None of them fit the category of: common, age induced, and obesity causing. Please read the question again. Name a single woman over 55 who has not gone through menopause. I'll wait. Find where I said the opposite. I even said: only menopause is directly linked to aging and it doesn't cause obesity otherwise every post menopausal woman would be obese. You get the body you work for, one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:43 PM
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What medical issues are common that come with age that cause obesity? I hate that I gotta ask that again, but you keep missing key parts of the question.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:31 PM
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Of all those things, only menopause is directly linked to aging and it doesn't cause obesity otherwise every post menopausal woman would be obese. Again, outside of the rare medical issues, you get the body you work for, one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:27 PM
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So how about you specifically answer my question instead of giving me a list where many of them are not associated with aging and others are exceedingly rare?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:15 PM
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What medical issues are common that come with age that cause obesity?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 10:03 PM
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Outside of the rare medical issues, you get the body you work for, one way or the other.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:34 PM
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Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do. And what do they do?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:22 PM
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It's not a good idea for women to try to passport sis in the way that men can.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 09:10 PM
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It isn't men that are delusional about this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:20 AM
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Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:19 AM
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That's not a debate, that's what you say when you don't have anything of value to add
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/23 11:18 AM
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Women ruin any male space where they are allowed to enter and exert influence.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:32 PM
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Back in history, fat women were considered attractive. Citation needed
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 08:02 PM
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Men who say "all women are X" really mean "all the women I can attract are X" So, to answer your question...yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:45 AM
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Mods here are incredibly biased. If you're a woman, you can say anything you want about and to men and it's fine. If you're a man, you will get banned for being "uncivil" for questioning a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/23 01:36 AM
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Just don't be fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 08:42 PM
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It's my response to people who hate men and get no enjoyment from us. You would be doing yourself and us a favor.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:38 PM
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Sounds like you and OP should just go date women
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:36 PM
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We orgasm because we know what we like. Take some agency for your bodies ladies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:32 PM
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Women who say that only demonstrate that they don't have any men in their lives who see them as worthwhile. You still need men, you just don't have any giving you direct personal benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:15 PM
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Insane that you are such a misandrist that you would rather be a single mom than cooperate with a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:12 PM
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I'm gonna let you in on something men won't tell you: Most women suck at sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:10 PM
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You misandrists should just go date each other and leave the mentally healthy people alone. I'm sure you would be much happier together
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:08 PM
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You wouldn't have to pay half if you were worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:06 PM
1

I wish you could read flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/23 12:00 PM
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Terrible advice. In literally no other areas of life do we give the advice "just stop trying and it will magically happen." If you want outcomes, you have to do the work to get them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 07:47 PM
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Whatever you say
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:50 PM
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It's a literal physical response paired with consent. You drunk m8?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:31 PM
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Best way to tell if a man is sexually attracted to you: He has sex with you. "Pity sex" is an excuse men make for allowing their sexual attraction to unattractive women to override their self control. It's cope. Now if you're talking about more than just sex, that's a whole different thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:42 PM
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You are married! Congratulations! You won the game! The wall is no longer your enemy. You don't have to worry about being appealing to the wide swaths of your preferred demographic because you did the smart thing and grabbed a man and got out of the game 25 years ago. You did exactly what RP recommends women do - find a good man, and marry the fuck out of him. Seriously, congratulations. That comfort, security, and peace you feel despite aging is a thing that these women playing the game will ne…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:29 PM
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The point is that you will, at one point, no longer be hot and desirable. You will lose to the version of you in your prime, be it at 25 or 35. All these "I wasn't hot until I was 36" replies are cope, because that day comes for us all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:22 PM
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And this isn't about "feeling sorry for yourself", it's about extending a bit of understanding to others.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:20 PM
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Okay, your wall might not be 30. Yours might come at 40, or 50. But it's coming.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:17 PM
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False. Red pill actually teaches that if you're not getting the quality of woman you want, the problem is that you don't qualify. RP literally tells men that if you want top tier outcomes, you gotta be a top tier man!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:16 PM
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You think sperm is magically created by pixies and unicorns? It comes from men. You would rather be a single mom, a thing you clearly don't like, than admit men are necessary and learn to get along with one. Feminism has fucked women up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:14 PM
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A woman can get a sperm donation very easily And where the hell do you people think sperm comes from? How would a man have their own biological kid outside of a sexual relationship? We can't. But men aren't going full Simple Jack saying that they don't need women for reproduction. We for damn sure aren't dumb and selfish enough to choose single-fatherhood on purpose!
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:13 PM
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I warn you to stop now. The more you understand them, the less you'll be able to love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 11:29 AM
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You are not changing my view because as I said women still provide sex and the ability to create a family. I might have struggled in biology, but I don't see how this is possible without men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 11:27 AM
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Please define misogyny and explain how his comment fits that definition.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 11:25 AM
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I will never understand why women who hate men think that men will be sad to be rid of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 09:09 AM
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We planned on it. We don't take the advice of women who believe in conditional femininity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:55 AM
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Yeah, I don’t agree with you. No shit. Men are not truly in their masculine without feminine women Masculinity is not conditional just because you say it is. And women are not truly in their feminine without masculine men Femininity is not conditional because you find it convenient to your dating strategy. You guys can believe otherwise. We will, because we're right.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:32 AM
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I don’t believe that Considering how absolutely wrong you've been in this entire thread, I'd be more worried if you believed me. Consider me a fraud Okay I'm there. I hope you find a TRUE feminine woman. No you don't, this is you being disingenuous again. It's an ugly trait and you should really stop it. Doesn't matter, I'm not the one struggling to fit into my gender role.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:28 AM
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Those things can and do exist independently. You posting a picture of traits doesn't mean that they require one another to exist. If no women were alive, does that mean that suddenly men lose those traits? No. Because they exist with or without the presence of women. You need to stop trying to talk about things you don't understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:25 AM
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It's like you are unable to read. I'll just Barney it down for you: I'm a masculine man all the time. I don't need a woman's presence or approval to be what I am. Her actions or lack of don't alter my masculinity. I, and men like me, are revolted by women who think like you - if your femininity is a thing that can be on/off based on your mood, then you're a fraud - feminine women are feminine without the need for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:21 AM
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We have no use for those kinds of women. They can date the men with variable masculinity
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:12 AM
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You would think as a short man with a disability, you would have a shred of empathy for men who just can't improve their way into the top tier of men. It's borderline infuriating.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 08:06 AM
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Oh look, you're using words you don't understand. I'm shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:59 AM
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You say that trying to insult me, but considering where it's coming from it's a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:48 AM
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Oh come off it. Don't project your trauma onto me. I just think you are wrong and making inane points that aren't founded in anything except your feelings, and masking it with fake concern to win an argument is disingenuous and manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:16 AM
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I didn't call you dumb, irresponsible, or a liar. I did say: Men don't believe the claims women make about wanting us to be vulnerable, which you demonstrated in your very next sentence. You don't know what you're talking about when you claimed women are more emotionally intelligent than men, which you demonstrated when you made up a definition about it out of thin air. Either way, I don't care what you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 06:01 AM
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Here's the thing: Some men are shit. Pure dogshit. The question these women need to ask themselves is "why do I seem to attract the shit men and repulse the good ones?"
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:58 AM
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this isn't the case for my home country, actually a lot of the things in this forum aren't but i'm studying in America so i'll talk about my experiences here rather than the ones at home. This should be a warning to these American women: you aren't the only women on the planet - there's a world of feminine women who appreciate masculine men. Women control access to sex. and here in America men can get sex very easily from like over 50 percent of women because of hook up culture. Yep. If a man is…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:57 AM
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When women complain about "all men", what they're really saying is "all the men that see me as an option." If you're surrounded by trash, it's because you're in the dumpster where you belong.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:50 AM
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Nothing of value was lost.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:41 AM
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A man doesn't require your existence for him to be masculine. He either is, or he isn't. You shouldn't require a man's existence to be feminine, and when women play that conditional femininity card, you know what masculine men see? A woman who wants to be feminine when it's convenient for her and masculine when it suits her purposes. And we want none of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:38 AM
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It demonstrates that you don't know what the fuck you're talking about when you claim that women are, by default, more emotionally intelligent.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:36 AM
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All the ones I know are caring and willing to listen when their men are stressed? We. Do. Not. Believe. You. Also…even if we do, it doesn’t do anything…we take on the emotional labor, and they still mistreat us, so…why even bother to care for your guys’ feelings? And this is why we don't believe you. You’re asking for me, as a woman, to be feminine and submit to men You do whatever you want. We don't care to try to convince you to submit. You go live your boss girl life. when men have nothing to…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:35 AM
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This is why people shouldn't talk about things they don't know about. EI is a definable thing with four key components. It's not some vague woo woo feel good thing that women magically possess that men don't. I'm fucking sick of this "women are SOOO MUCH more emotionally intelligent than men" bullshit that y'all use to justify vomiting your nonsense out like bad shellfish. Edit: while we're here, y'all can also remove "narcissist" and "gaslighting" from your lexicons as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:24 AM
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women are by far more empathetic Which is why men are constantly warned not to open up to women about our problems and struggles because when we do, we become less masculine and attractive to them. and responsible. Which is why you're here mewling about why men aren't taking charge and leading, while simultaneously abandoning all agency for your behavior claiming that it's because men arent masculine enough?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:16 AM
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Women are emotionally intelligent creatures Define emotional intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:13 AM
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Conditional femininity makes as much sense as conditional masculinity.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 05:12 AM
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How sure are you? I know for sure there are. Outliers don't refute the vast majority. Would you accept obese women? No, because I have standards and options I have found fat women attractive for a long time now. More for you I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:34 AM
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Suggesting that they marry before they carry is misogynistic, you cis-gendered hetero-normative thought-criminal Incel shitlord! REEEEEEE
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:05 AM
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You're thinking we care about attracting you.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:03 AM
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This person is quite real and serious. I wasn't sure so I checked their history. As women of the 2000s say, "yikes."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 04:02 AM
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No. Women will never, no matter how they look, accept obese men.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:59 AM
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Modern men dont offer anything. Women are waking up to the fact modern men are not worth getting into relationships with. Feel free to date other women or be alone. -A lot are addicted to porn and looking at half naked women on social media. Then tell your sisters in arms to stop pushing the drug rather than demonizing the consumer. Therefore men dont even know what natural women look like anymore and they will compare you to fake women online and only get hard for women who have plastic surgery…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/23 03:36 AM
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And a younger version of her will win every time. Old girls don't want to accept that they have an expiration date.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:47 PM
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Solid argument, I can't really refute any of your points. But seriously, do you deny that we all reach a point where we are no longer seen as sexually desirable to the majority (because you'll always have outliers) of the demographic we want to be sexually desirable to?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:34 PM
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Okay. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:08 PM
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Okay. Have a nice day
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:55 PM
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If suggesting that someone might be wrong is mYsOgYNy, then you're damn right
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:19 PM
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I don't give a shit about what women think when it comes to defining masculinity because they usually manipulate it into whatever serves their interests at the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:18 PM
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Covert contracts are always bad ideas. If you want and expect something from a relationship be an adult and fucking say it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:13 PM
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People improve as a response to external stimuli that make the current situation less preferable to the discomfort of change.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:08 PM
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At this point, you're evading. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 06:07 PM
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You have a history here, so ... I'm just gonna report and move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:28 PM
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I'm not "offended" I'm just pointing out that you're drawing water from a poisoned well.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:25 PM
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Who controls access to sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:22 PM
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I explained it and you're invested in not understanding it. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:20 PM
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Lol fuck no. You always had to do the work. Men always had to be successful, it's expected that men be masculine and productive - society has not allowed us to abdicate that role.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:52 AM
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They improve because they see self benefit, but they aren't saying "I'm going to improve for myself for no reason at all!" Usually there's an external factor that tips the scale to the point where the discomfort of improvement is outweighed by the discomfort of the situation they're currently in.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 11:40 AM
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Holy fucking ramble bro. Brevity is the soul of wit. I was going back and forth on Instagram with a lady earlier . One of the great blunders. I personally just hate when women act like we all have to hit the same requirements for the same results . If women were to openly admit that, it would make the less savvy men start asking themselves "wait, why am I being made to put in all this extra effort for?" She started calling me misogynistic, my mindset is unattractive and therefore IM unattractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:29 AM
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Holy fucking ramble bro. Brevity is the soul of wit. I was going back and forth on Instagram with a lady earlier . One of the great blunders. I personally just hate when women act like we all have to hit the same requirements for the same results . If women were to openly admit that, it would make the less savvy men start asking themselves "wait, why am I being made to put in all this extra effort for?" She started calling me misogynistic, my mindset is unattractive and therefore IM unattractive…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:29 AM
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"real commitment" is nebulous.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:00 AM
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Women decide who has sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 07:00 AM
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That isn't how that works. You made a claim, and when someone asks you to demonstrate it, you either: Demonstrate said claim Abandon claim You made a positive claim, you assumed the burden of proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 04:10 AM
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Not saying being obese is healthy Sanity! but some of us have tits and ass and that is fine. And then here come the justifications. First, I'm aware that tits and ass exist. But to correlate those with being obese is just making excuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:02 AM
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That doesn't make my point false.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 03:00 AM
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Not at all, and if he were using those places as examples id tell him the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:59 AM
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Horseshit. Very few people improve for "themselves".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:58 AM
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Cool. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 02:01 AM
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Never said it couldn't. I'm just saying that averages aren't a good way to tell who is having the sex, just that the sex is being had.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:55 AM
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America is not the world No, thank God. But I specifically chose that demographic because most of this audience is dating within this demographic. Also it’s better for women to be obese than men It's not good to be obese period.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:44 AM
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You just going to refuse to do this, huh? There's a point I'm getting to.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:43 AM
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That doesn't really work. Let's say you have 10 men. Of these 10 men, 3 have a body count of zero, 6 have a body count of 2, and 1 has a body count of 18. That's an average of 3 bodies across the board, but most of these men aren't having that much sex. And that's what throws the number off - the people at the higher end of the spectrum are having the most sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:40 AM
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Oh, sorry, only 42% of women. Hales CM, Carroll MD, Fryar CD, Ogden CL (2020). Prevalence of Obesity Among Adults and Youth: United States, 2017–2018 (PDF) (NCHS data brief, no. 360). Hyattsville, MD: National Center for Health Statistics. Retrieved May 6, 2020 – via www.cdc.gov.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:36 AM
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Any place that doesn't serve as an echo chamber for the most damaged, involuntarily single, bitter women on Reddit. That place only magnifies their issues and reinforces them. It's extremely unhealthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:30 AM
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I wish more women actually had sexual discipline, but until you can get these city girls to stop fucking "hawt" guys, the sexual marketplace will reward men who can and do "spin plates".
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:28 AM
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Women don't marry for sexual access. Sure they care about it, but only because they know that if a man has sexual access to a woman, it's a window for that woman to get access to the things she wants for herself. Thought experiment time! (I'm assuming your a woman in this case) Pick the scenario you would rather have: Your husband meets a woman. He fucks her brains out, but doesn't give her anything but dick. He doesn't have any interest in her except a good time and he doesn't give her anything…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:27 AM
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Most women are quality, high value partners by default How the hell did you come to that conclusion? Most women are obese, which automatically rules them out. Women do not get to determine what men see as "quality, high value" in the dating market - men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:23 AM
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Why do you think that?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:20 AM
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This is a valid position to hold. Don't associate with groups you despise.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:19 AM
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You picked the most virulent and toxic space on Reddit (aside from FDS) to use as your example. That's like going to a klan meeting and being upset about their take on black people.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 01:17 AM
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No. And asking me to do so is a fast way to get broken up with. It's a sign of potentially larger issues. Today you're asking for my location, tomorrow you're trying to go through my phone, Wednesday you're sneaking airpods into my car to track me. It's projecting your past trauma onto your current relationship. Sorry you made shitty dating choices in the past, but hopefully you learned something and chose better this time. If not, why the fuck are we together? It's potentially projection. You d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 12:51 AM
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No. And asking me to do so is a fast way to get broken up with. It's a sign of potentially larger issues. Today you're asking for my location, tomorrow you're trying to go through my phone, Wednesday you're sneaking airpods into my car to track me. It's projecting your past trauma onto your current relationship. Sorry you made shitty dating choices in the past, but hopefully you learned something and chose better this time. If not, why the fuck are we together? It's potentially projection. You d…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 12:49 AM
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Plenty of men (like you) have options and aren't promiscuous. I'm saying that the men who are promiscuous are only able to be so because most women are choosing them to have sex with.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 12:04 AM
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I do not understand this mentality of conservative-type men desiring a one-income home where they are the sole provider. Doesn't give you the room to jump to the conclusion: I have a hard time believing that the reason they insist on this dynamic comes down to anything other than control. If you don't understand something, maybe you should avoid making assumptions about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/23 12:02 AM
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You're aware that it isn't just money, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:59 PM
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I am a top 15% income earner for my age and I don't "get pussy" because I have some respect for myself. You choosing not to do something is irrelevant to the fact that you can. The woman I want to be with doesn't want to be with a guy who sleeps around. Well, good luck to you (not sarcastic).
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:59 PM
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Stop perpetuating the attitude that your quality as a man is directly tied to how much pussy you get. You have that backwards. The amount of pussy you get is directly tied to the quality of man that you are, not the other way around. It isn't the pussy that makes the man quality, it's his quality that allows him pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:07 PM
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The only promiscuous men are the upper tier of men. What makes them promiscuous? Women want to fuck them. Women control who has sex. You want to end male promiscuity? Start requiring marriage before sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 11:06 PM
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And I'm sure they were vastly outnumbered by men which is the point, if you took more time to follow the conversation Usually repeating myself is tedious, but copy/paste makes things easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 09:29 PM
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And you might be wrong. Just maybe.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 09:07 PM
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This. Women tend not to improve for the men they have, they improve for the men they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 04:59 PM
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They're beta bux for a reason. If they had it in then to smash and dash, they would.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/23 03:45 AM
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I can't speak for all marriages, but I can speak to my experience That was the first sentence in my original comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 11:27 PM
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I was interacting with you as if you were here in good faith. I see that this might have been a mistake on my part. I'll try again though. “massive increase “ as if Mr bill gates is with us tonight The fact is that, on average, men have triple the net worth of women. And I'm, personally, above average men. It isn't about being "Bill Gates", but about understanding the real numbers. can’t understand why that important if you are not religious It isn't important for me. The question was what benef…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 10:07 PM
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It's hard to correlate fantasy to real life preferences and habits. I play WoW. I don't want to go around smashing faces in with a mace.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:41 PM
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I can't speak for all marriages, but I can speak to my experience. Some benefits that my wife (if I get married again) would receive: Massively increased material benefits in the form of having legal claim to my assets in both the marriage but also in the event that the marriage dissolves or I die Legal legitimacy of children Physical protection in the forms of literal physical protection, a safe home and environment for her and our children, and socal knowledge that she's claimed (i.e. "That's …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:33 PM
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It isn't men that push for marriage, it's women. Why would they push for something that they don't benefit from?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 09:16 PM
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I guess the same thing you're doing here?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:51 PM
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If I had to choose, I'd choose success. I might be speaking from a place of privilege, so take it for what it's worth, but physical attractiveness is only good for one thing: getting laid. As a man, I can't pretty my way into a mortgage payment. I can't pretty my bills away. I can't pretty private school tuition. You know what success does? It gives me the resources to not only change my dating life, but the quality of my life in general. I can buy anything that brings me comfort and security. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:27 PM
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Whatever you say buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:11 PM
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I didn't "dismiss" the contribution of arts majors. As a classically trained scholar, I can accept that a degree in computer engineering, astronomy, or biology is objectively harder. You're mistaking my laughing at the notion that the two are equivalent with me saying they are useless. I called them "bullshit" in the context of average earning potential because we have data that supports that conclusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:11 PM
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Not all college degrees are equal. And, there are different courses required to graduate. For example, here are the classes needed to get a BA in education from Harvard vs the requirements to get a BS in life sciences at Harvard The fact that there are different courses, with different criteria that result in different degrees is readily apparent. You asking me to "cite my sources" was done in bad faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 08:07 PM
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What, are you one of those dorks who needs citations for literally every single argument? I'm one of those "dorks" that likes to form their opinions based on things that are able to be demonstrated. If you're accustomed to debate (this is a debate sub, no?) then you have to understand that changing the mind of someone who disagrees with you requires more than just your opinion - you have to be able to debate about facts. Do you not believe that people who are good at STEM are generally bad at be…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:58 PM
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I'm inclined to agree. A lot of people can't accept that others, after finding out who we are, just aren't interested. It comes from a place of narcissism, because some people can't wrap their hearts and minds around the notion that just because they're in love with themselves that others might not feel the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:55 PM
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Looks are everything in attraction Initial attraction, yes. Long term? No. That's why fuckboys are wildly successful at plying their trade, but can't manage anything past that. There's no solutions to help guys in dating I'll agree that is a very blackpill take. It's also insanely self-defeating and no way to live. PUA stuff This is actually not red pill. It's PUA, and there is a difference. Most RP guys understand PUA shit, but we generally don't agree with it because it's centered in manipulat…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:53 PM
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Because PUAs embody a bastardization of TRP - they take the lessons that TRP teaches about women, self improvement, and dealing with reality on its terms and uses them to pursue the basest of endeavors - sleeping with women. As much as it appears to be a "no true Scotsman" fallacy, it's important to remember that within every group you're going to get assholes who co-opt the group to push their bullshit. It's akin to how all feminists aren't FDSers. That's why it's important to engage with peopl…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:49 PM
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It happens. I want to apologize for my snarkiness.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:40 PM
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The user said: Women are outperforming men in universities. This is the claim I was responding to. They are not less intelligent, if anything they are more intelligent. This is an assertion that can't be demonstrated nor disproven, which is why I did not address it.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 07:21 PM
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Okay. https://dailycollegian.com/2018/04/schools-are-designed-more-for-girls-than-for-boys/ https://phys.org/news/2013-01-girls-school.html#:~:text=The%20data%20show%2C%20for%20the,their%20test%20scores%20would%20predict.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 06:20 AM
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Why do you think women haven’t been going into stem roles and favour the arts and the care sector? Personal choices. There's nothing stopping them except their own desires. This is all besides the point. You treat men and women as if they’re two big blocks Pretty sure I've made it clear that I'm not just using my opinion and that I've linked sources. Not my fault you don't want to read them. It’s up to individuals what they go into. I agree, and women (in general) are choosing bullshit degrees. …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 05:55 AM
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Sorry about my reaction. I've been having to repeat myself all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:29 AM
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No, but we have access to intelligence test data which is a better indicator of intelligence. WHY ARE YOU STILL ARGUING ABOUT INTELLIGENCE?!? I don't know how many times I have to say this, I never took the position that women are less intelligent than men. Here’s one such study: That I cannot access without paying. I can't see the data sets, methodology, or anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 02:11 AM
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Are you saying salary is a good measure of performance? It's the one that we have the metrics for. Do you have access to another, more reliable data set? Performance doesn’t explain the gender pay gap, though. There’s so many factors that do. Child care is the big one. Personal choices are also reflected in performance. Actual performance evaluation data is a better measure of performance than salary. Do you have access to that data?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 01:50 AM
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That doesn’t make your argument men outperform women because they’re paid more and choose certain degrees more valid. Performance is literally a measurable metric. That being said, is the argument women are dumber than men and this is proven because they don’t want to work in STEM? I NEVER MADE THAT ARGUMENT! What the hell is wrong with everyone here? I never said or implied that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 01:40 AM
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Just... Just stop it. I never said that women were less intelligent than men. Stop arguing against this strawman. And let's look at the degrees people are getting, because it looks like men are getting degrees in real fields (specifically STEM) and women are getting bullshit. That's what I said, as a counterpoint to someone claiming men are out performing women based on college enrollment. You're arguing against what you feel I said rather than what I actually said.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:48 AM
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I guess trying to sexually shame men with STEM degrees is a good argument somewhere, but that place isn't here with me. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:43 AM
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And let's look at the degrees people are getting, because it looks like men are getting degrees in real fields (specifically STEM) and women are getting bullshit. There you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:36 AM
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Some degrees are indeed bullshit. Moreover, if you take the data on income earned (you know, the reason people go to college) men are performing more. If men are making more money and women are more enrolled, the only conclusion is that women are getting bullshit degrees that don't turn into economic success Women are not outperforming men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:35 AM
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Feel free to quote it. I'd hate to misinterpret you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:26 AM
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No, it's a way to red herring out of points that can't be adequately addressed. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:23 AM
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Are you saying insulting someone's intelligence is "uncivil." Interesting. Well, if you can find anywhere I made a personal attack against you (except when I rightfully called you a liar), feel free to point it out. Why does it matter that it isn't STEM? Because the conversation is about STEM degrees. This isn't going to work if you can't stay on topic. And the numbers are growing every year, again demonstrating that it's not because women are less intelligent. Find where I said women are less i…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:17 AM
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I don’t care about the point you responded to. Ah so you just don't want to even have the discussion about the thing. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:04 AM
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You be quiet Slippin' Jimmy! 😉
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:01 AM
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Oh ok, men on average are smarter than women (not including you). Shame you can't help but be uncivil. I'm not gonna report you for it because you at least are attempting to engage with the discussion point. More than half of law school grads are women: Not STEM. moving on. Half of medical school grads are women: Outstanding. They're finally making up ground in an area. This is something to be celebrated. Gender pay gap isn't real, women just choose to have kids or choose more fulfilling jobs: I…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/23 12:00 AM
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So your rectal database.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:39 PM
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Great, bang out some citations and use them to address the point I responded to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:38 PM
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You're including yourself in the group by including men. Sorry, you've made yourself and your intelligence relevant The only way you can justify this is by lying. You didn't say some men are smarter than some women. You spoke in absolutes. Find where I said "all" men. Even the sources I linked make that clear. Stop trying to evade the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:38 PM
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Stop trying to poison the well and engage with the facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:29 PM
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As the original comment I replied to said: Women are outperforming men in universities. They are not less intelligent, if anything they are more intelligent. What metric do suggest we use to measure academic achievement if we cannot use the metrics of degree types and earned incomes based on those degrees?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:24 PM
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So struggled with high school. Noted. Baseless assumption. I bet you think people who use the 5th amendment are automatically guilty as well don't you? And we had some brilliant girls in my physics degree I'm sure you did. And I'm sure they were vastly outnumbered by men which is the point, if you took more time to follow the conversation and less time making puerile insults.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:21 PM
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It's an attempt to steer the discussion away from the topic and towards me. Tell me, is anything I'm saying more or less relevant if I didn't graduate from high school or if I have a PhD? No, because the education level of the debaters has no relevance. Stop trying to justify your logical fallacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:20 PM
4

Whatever you say buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:19 PM
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In this specific context, Men out perform women in STEM and earned income.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:07 PM
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Attempt to poison the well. Irrelevant to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 11:04 PM
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Women are outperforming men in law school and medical school as well as in high school. Even if that's true [citation needed], the inescapable truth is that men, on average, out perform women and when women start crowing about how they're outperforming men, it's laughable Not wanting to do STEM doesn't mean we're too stupid to do STEM. What's the demonstrable difference between someone who can't do something and someone who won't do something?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 10:49 PM
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i like attractive guys that walk up and talk to me Ftfy. All jokes aside, the point that RP makes isn't that women don't like being approached. It's that women only like being approached by men that they deem suitably attractive, and anything else they say ("just be respectful", "know where is appropriate", etc) is camouflage designed to obsfuscate the real truth: women only want to be approached by attractive men and the rest of them don't need to bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 10:42 PM
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[Citation needed]
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 10:25 PM
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having any degree is better than sitting at home Obviously. That's irrelevant to the point. on your PC being a blackpill keyboard warrior Oh, you're trying to insult me. Sorry, proceed.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 10:01 PM
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What is it about stem degrees that’s so “real”? Says the person using coding designed by an engineer, on a device built by machines that were made by mechanical engineers, using electricity provided by electrical engineering. Do we need any more stem-lords sniffing thier own farts explaining how smart they are? You have to try to insult because you don't have a relevant objection. Do we need more CS majors to build another fucking app or half-baked start up? No. You're literally using an applica…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 10:00 PM
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Wrong. By merit of them being different in both scope, function, and difficulty they are not the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 09:50 PM
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They're "real" in the sense that they exist in reality. But equal? Don't make me fucking laugh. Too late.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 09:42 PM
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And let's look at the degrees people are getting, because it looks like men are getting degrees in real fields (specifically STEM) and women are getting bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 09:02 PM
2

Apple wins hands down, In what areas, specifically?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 05:32 PM
3

I can easily afford an iphone. I just have standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 05:30 PM
2

Naw you're good. I prefer my phone to actually be a good piece of tech that doesn't get intentionally broken to sell me the next piece of shit phone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 05:30 PM
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Android is for people who actually like phones and don't want to pay for crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 05:28 PM
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I do. I'm just engaging with your post.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 05:27 PM
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You asked the question. Don't get snarky because the answer didn't make you feel good.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 05:25 PM
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Don't really care. We're arguing about feelings, not reality. You don't argue about feelings because those not only vary person to person, but even an individual's feelings can change on a whim. It's a waste of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:53 PM
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So owning an android is an example of weakness and femininity? Women who describe things as "ick" aren't worth taking seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:47 PM
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women you want to appeal to Not bar girls, strippers, or whores for starters. Might start adding teachers to that list. putting down others based on jobs isn’t a great start… We all do it. You just draw the line in a different location.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:56 PM
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Sorry, meant step up, thanks for catching that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:52 PM
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God damn all the hurt single girls are here in force.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:54 AM
2

Good for you
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:43 AM
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Or, how about this take: The women in their domestic markets are so unfit for anything, even hookups, that these men are literally flying around the world to get away from them. It's not a commentary on the men, but the lack of quality of the women.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:37 AM
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The fact that you're using TikTok as the basis for any opinions that you hold is sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:34 AM
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No. By your own admission, there aren't enough eligible men for women and men can go get the things we get from relationships elsewhere. Seems to me like it's a problem that women have, not men. Best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 03:33 AM
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Only women that it applies to. I don't really care about "appealing" to women I have no interest in.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 01:37 AM
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Ew. Fucking servers is just a step down up from fucking strippers.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/23 12:22 AM
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It would be beautiful. I always say "if every man decided that they would only give attention to fit, well-read women then the gyms and libraries would be packed." Women will do what it takes to get attention from the men they want. The problem we have is that men have disgustingly low standards when it comes to the women we give sexual attention to: Fat women, addicts, city girls, dumb girls, women with multiple children... All of them can find someone with no standards who will give them atten…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:46 PM
1

Whatever you say buddy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:56 PM
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I never wanted for a beautiful woman on my arm, let me assure you. Didn't you say: "I’ve been rejected 20 times for every woman who’s given me a good response." Pick a lane. The thing is that I speak with women as people, first. You treat them like magical romantic objects. I’m not trying to bag them, like a big game hunter. Cool, neither am I. I’m hoping to appreciate the flowering of their being, and to enjoy myself in the process. If we both get hot during the interaction, then I move things …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:10 PM
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I admit to misreading that (see my edit) But no man should ever take the advice of someone with such a low success rate
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:38 PM
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You have a 5% success rate and your winning advice is "give her fruit" like she's a primate You are absolutely delusional. You've got nothing to say I can take seriously. Edit: I absolutely misread that, apologies
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:05 PM
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Whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 05:03 PM
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Oh look, more incivility. Well, have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:18 PM
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You want to make a woman miserable? Give her exactly what she wants.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:17 PM
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Ironically, attraction works the opposite way people think it does. We ascribe positive traits to people we find attractive because we want to like them. It's them that either confirm or deny our previous assumptions, and only with great effort. That's why good looking people can get away with fuckshit and unattractive people have to develop stellar personalities.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:16 PM
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What sort of behaviours are you talking about? And how does it affect whether women respond to you? Literally everything I do has a positive light cast upon it because it's colored by the attraction that women have towards me. My bad jokes suddenly become "funny" and not "awkward". My compliment on her outfit is "nice", or "attentive"', and not "creepy". Looking into her eyes is "engaging", and not "stalkerish". Even my silences are "pensive" and not "anti-social" (in fact, I'll be in groups jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:09 PM
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Walking in the rain is riskier than talking to women Rain doesn't occasionally get off on embarrassing you. Rain doesn't make a scene if you talk to it. Rain doesn't assume the worst about you because of your gender. Rain doesn't assume you want to just fuck it. Rain just, on it's worst day, mildly inconveniences you if you aren't expecting it. Rain, 100% of the time, is "as advertised" and not waiting to take out it's past trauma on you, the unsuspecting man who walked outside in it. You're jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 04:04 PM
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Ah Yes. Indeed. Basil Fawlty over there might not understand that our local population is quite corpulent.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:56 PM
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The risk is basically zero. This, ladies and gentlemen, is what it looks like to live a life where romantic rejection is not even a reality. The reward is a lifetime of joy with a woman who understands and appreciates you. I'm the one in my head? I have the completely unique ability to see things from the perspective of others. It gives me the super power of empathy, which allows me to understand the feelings and problems of groups that I don't belong to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 03:55 PM
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I'm just saying that women don't get to cry when men don't approach because women are the reason that men don't approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:17 PM
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No, I'm not. I don't struggle because I'm on the side of the spectrum where I can get away with things that less attractive men would get called "disrespectful" or "creepy" for doing. But this does highlight a fundamental flaw in your reasoning - you assumed that because I know that less attractive men dont have the leeway that attractive men do, that I must be unattractive and that I was complaining about my outcomes.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:12 PM
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From my understanding (because I was curious), we immediately stand out as "not African" because of the way we speak, and that puts us out of the tribal stupidity that a lot of them are caught up in.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:06 PM
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As the kids say, "that's cap". It doesn't matter how you approach them, what matters is if they find you attractive enough to justify an approach.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:04 PM
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Tough shit. The risk/reward is quickly shifting to "not worth it" for most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:02 PM
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From what my Kenyan friends tell me, it's easy hunting as an American black male as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 11:46 AM
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Naw. Women my age may still have more opportunity to get fucked but men aren't trying to take them seriously because that time has passed.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 09:55 AM
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I'm not gonna shame you for having racial preferences. Just don't bang fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:04 AM
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I'm not gonna shame you for having racial preferences. Just don't bang fatties.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:04 AM
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Personally, I've enjoyed Costa Rica. I would not mind Nairobi though. And yes fat women are everywhere but the west is plagued by them and it's celebrated. It makes me fucking sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:02 AM
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Personally, I've enjoyed Costa Rica. I would not mind Nairobi though. And yes fat women are everywhere but the west is plagued by them and it's celebrated. It makes me fucking sick.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 08:01 AM
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It's the same anywhere in the west Justification to leave the west Plenty of fat men too. I'm not trying to fuck men. obesity is heavily correlated with race in the US anyway. Irrelevant really, no fat chicks, regardless of race. There's plenty of thin white women in cities. Most women are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:58 AM
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when you control for weight Well that's the damn problem isn't it?!
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 07:52 AM
1

Iykyk 🤷🏿‍♂️
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/23 12:42 AM
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Men who women see as unattractive get no sympathy from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:09 PM
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As a man who spent his 20s and 30s making the right choices and staying on his fitness, I'm gonna have to disagree. Shit is sweet if men stay on mission.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:09 PM
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Just a shout-out to my fellow XRP and XLM team! TODAY IS A DAY OF DAYS!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 10:21 PM
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The caveat is if you do the work in your 20s. If you spent your 20s jerking off and eating Twinkies in your mom's attic, you're probably gonna be doing that in your 30s.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 09:52 PM
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None of them make a woman slutty. Women with these red flags just have a higher chance of being sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:54 PM
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If you want to inject meaning into something someone didn't say, I'll give you another opportunity to do so: have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:32 PM
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Yes, because you have healthy friendships. I'm pointing out that a lot of male/female "friendships" aren't healthy because of the sexual dynamic that women often exploit to gain things from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 12:00 PM
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Really? What do you think she meant by: After all, they have to blame something other than their own laziness, isn't it? Because to me (and anyone else with the ability to read) it looks like she's dismissing the opinions of short men and mocking them to boot. Then, because she thinks we're stupid, she tries to pretend that wasn't what she was doing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 11:21 AM
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Women do not respect men who show emotions. Do not listen to women when they tell you to open up
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 07:09 AM
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I can't speak to your narrow and uniquely specific sexual history. I'm just pointing out factors that lend to a woman being a potential cock monster.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:57 AM
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Some of the things that I avoid in women: Excessive tattoos Women who work in bars (as bartenders) Women with ANY substance abuse problems, including alcohol Women who have face piercings Women with children by more than one man Women with messy homes Women with excessive pets Women who always find themselves dating "NarCCisIStS" Women who go to music festivals
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:49 AM
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You don't get to say "understand" when you're the one failing to adequately communicate an idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:43 AM
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Women do lie. It's a known thing. I don't even bother asking the question because I know that I won't get the truth. I just filter women out based on observable things that slutty women tend to do
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:42 AM
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Most modern women aren't religious. Even the religious ones are still having sex before marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:28 AM
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But how do you really know if women lie? You don't. Just expect it. No woman will ever be honest about her past promiscuity. Men lie about things for there own benefit, so women lie too. Okay and? Irrelevant. She could be a virgin on the wedding night and he could still cheat. What does she have then? She still gets the money, attention, time, and resources - the very things that women push for marriage to attain. Women don't get married to fuck. They can fuck for free at any time they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 05:21 AM
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Really, because you said: After all, they have to blame something other than their own laziness, isn't it? Seems to me that you're saying that they're lazy and that height has nothing to do with it. One of your statements needs to be retracted. I'll let you decide which.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:49 AM
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Just don't listen to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 04:19 AM
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Guys care because they want a less used object to own, rather than a more used one. It isn't about "owning". The thing to remember is this: men pay in monogamy. Give me a reason for a man to willingly commit to a "slut" over a woman who isn't one? What does he get for the sacrifice of never being able to have sex with other women for the rest of his life? He is expected, in perpetuity until the day he dies, to dedicate his money, energy, attention, and time towards one woman - he is going to wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:46 AM
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Nah lol my libido has been shot since Thanksgiving I have a lot going on for me right now. Sorry to hear that. The world is either in your hands or at your throat, right? maybe they just wanted the pickle? It's been known to happen. I'm not exactly an ugly dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:29 AM
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5 years ago nobody in the real world talked like that, now body count is the biggest deal to men about women because of cultural. Men have always cared. Why do you think women have always lied about it? Even women know that men care.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:02 AM
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As a taller than average man, I can only share my personal experience. And my experience is that every woman I've been with has vocally expressed how happy they are that they can "look up at me" or "have to stand on their tip toes to try to kiss me." Many also express that it gives them a feeling of safety and security. Pair that with the lived experiences of short men, and I have to say that simply dismissing their experiences as a matter of "laziness" is not only tone-deaf, but not in touch wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 03:01 AM
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All relationships are transactional. The only relevant questions are: Are the contracts covert or overt? Are the parties involved holding up their end? Most relationship issues occur when the contract is covert and one party is not getting the thing they are expecting from the other while meeting their end of the covert contract.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:52 AM
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I know you're asking in bad faith and trying to mock me, but I'll reply so that onlookers can get some benefit from this. I think it would be very entertaining for you to explain what exactly it is that you "give and give" in a friendship, All human interaction is dependent on one simple rule: the relationship persists so long as the parties either benefit from the interaction or are penalized for the interaction ending. When I speak of "giving and giving", in relationships where sexual attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/23 02:48 AM
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I wouldn't marry with sex being the determiner. The real "sperg" (to use your terms) is to assume that's why men marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:36 PM
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If you cheat on your spouse (assuming they aren't refusing sex with you) then you're a whore. This applies to men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:11 PM
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If you want to make a woman miserable, give her exactly what she wants
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:10 PM
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You're making a strong argument for men to avoid marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:08 PM
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What happens is that during the courtship phase men will make time, but women demand an ever increasing amount of investment from men. One night a week was great during courtship, but now that you're married you want 4 nights. The problem with this is that the reward for men is not appreciating, but diminishing - he has to make an ever increasing level of commitment and sacrifice for the same level of reward (because women don't put in effort for the men they have, only the ones they want.)
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:07 PM
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Women's love is consumptive. A woman will be attracted to men for things that they have without her (i.e muscles, work ethic, artistic talent, etc.) and she will want to be around him all the time to the point where it interferes in his ability to develop and maintain those things and, ironically, it will erode the very thing she found attractive in him in the first place. RP says to never ever place a woman above your purpose for this reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:04 PM
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Keep that energy!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:01 PM
1

What upside down take is this? Expecting modesty is a red flag now?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:56 PM
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Yes, but it only works because: I don't want, need, or expect intimacy from them I expect reciprocity in the friendship. I'm not gonna just give and give for nothing except the pleasure of your company. I expect them to conduct themselves as if they were my male friends.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 10:53 PM
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Show me a fat woman with a good ratio. I'll wait.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 03:44 PM
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But they don't. So what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 11:41 AM
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Depends on the woman. If I knew what women were lying about, I'd write a book.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:08 AM
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Absolutely lie. Why? Because we all do it. Nobody is completely honest with themselves or others. The question really becomes "what are the impacts of the lies we tell?"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/23 01:04 AM
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None of these women are fat. You're not gonna get too many objections.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:58 PM
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That's their own personal insecurities. We don't judge, we're too busy doing our own fucking thing
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:19 PM
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Nope. The only men who care are men who have to care.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:12 PM
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Plot twist: he's an OF model
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:10 PM
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No. Her employment doesn't matter to me if she's treating me the way I like. My current girlfriend works with a place that's 87% dudes and I don't even think twice about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:09 PM
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Women don't give a shit about improving for the men they can get - they only improve for the men they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:05 PM
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When women look for men to date, they look at what they're unattracted to. When men look for women to date, they look at what they're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:03 PM
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Did you just make this up in your head?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:58 AM
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Oh no, they don't take me seriously so they give me what I want. You have a really inaccurate take, unless you're saying you're the kind of woman who gives sex to losers?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 11:57 AM
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There is a great psychacks video about how Men always pay that explains that men know they pay in relationships and want to get the best deal they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:01 AM
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There is a great psychacks video about how Men always pay that explains that men know they pay in relationships and want to get the best deal they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 01:01 AM
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Always give them the friend treatment until they demonstrate they are more. Don't give them special treatment
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:59 AM
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The incels and redpillers want to gaslight older women becacaue they have no chance them. 18 year olds are subject to being manipulated more easily. Woman please. We don't want to deal with most of those women because they have higher demands and much lower rewards for meeting them. It's like paying Bentley prices for a Kia Sentra. Older women are the easiest lays ever. They quickly offer up the sex but then fuck it all up by trying to push for commitment because they know that their time on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:56 AM
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I don't lift to please women. I lift to please myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:54 AM
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can be is the operative word. The question I have is this: "So the fuck what?" If you're using this as a counterpoint to men preferring younger women, it's not gonna work. You at 35 will never be as desirable as you at 25. You've had too much trauma, too many dicks, and too much time on the carousel. Every woman's younger self is a much better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/23 12:49 AM
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Monogamy is an acceptable goal. The problem is that most women don't deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:54 PM
1

The very same!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 04:13 PM
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/pulls out a knife "You call that a knife? No, seriously is that a knife, because I brought this..." /Pulls out M249
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:54 PM
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Point 3: you’re either blind OR selectively not seeing everyone else. Literally your words.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:48 PM
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Second, more serious response: It's a fantastic deal for her because: I keep my end of the deal. Her minimum is that I don't fuck other women and I don't. She gets other benefits from this relationship too, the monogamy of a tall, muscular, handsome, masculine man is just the part she negotiated for (and got). My list of demands is so small that I already listed everything. Men become easier to please the more they like you. Part of this is because she came to the relationship fit, feminine, fri…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:14 PM
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Thank you for having lived my experiences and being in a better position to tell me what I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:06 PM
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For her too, because she clearly wants to be here since this is a consenting relationship. Why are y'all so damn determined to pretend women are stupid and can't make their own choices? Maybe the mysogynists are y'all.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:03 PM
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I didn't skip it. I just used it to directly respond to your post and you only mentioned "food, water, shelter and the funds to pay for all three"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:59 PM
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I didn't engage with this user, because of an exchange earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 02:55 PM
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I don't date gym girls for a number of reasons: I only see them in the gym, and I'm not there to ogle women, I'm there to fucking lift. I don't like their attitudes. If you get shitty with me when I'm just trying to use the weight bench you're standing by (and not using), I can't imagine how much of a bitch you are in a relationship. I've only seen one "gym girl" that treated the gym like she was there for that muscle. The rest are there for social hour. I lose respect for a person in the gym (m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:47 PM
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I've also got one. She's a great girlfriend. She fucks, she brings me food at work, she respects my time and space and all she wants from me is that I don't fuck other women. It's a great deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:40 PM
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So she is with a man she openly doesn't respect and she was flirting with a man she would rather be with. Yeah, that's a success story.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:33 PM
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I don't really care if I "sound like a jerk". And it isn't my job to help others determine the things they value and care about in their own lives. It kind of defeats the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:31 PM
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About 45 minutes. I go in and I lift as heavy as I can on my target groups that day then I fuck off to the house.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 12:14 PM
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We do. We love the access to easy sex. We don't marry them though, because why give them commitment? There's only downside to it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:43 AM
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Tate doesn't state any facts. And of course women don't listen to him, why would we? So if you don't listen to him, how do you know? If it weren't for doublethink some people wouldn't have any think at all. If we became women he sees as valuable we would be cheated on, we would have to forget about our passions and dreams, and we would only stay at home and serve men. There is nothing in it for us. YOU. ARE. NOT. THE. AUDIENCE.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:29 AM
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You know we keep score in marriages, not cocks, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:26 AM
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Fds advise you to not sleep with him unless he commits Not a bad strategy. Shame that FDS doesn't say just that. It encourages women to withhold from men they want for relationships while freely cavorting with boy toys. unless he gives you princess treatment You get the treatment you deserve. It's all about withholding sex from people you want commitment from Yes, we know. It's why any man who knows what FDS is avoids women who adhere to it. As for working, even the majority of mothers work You …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:25 AM
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I mean, if you want to go full Maslow, those things are important and if you don't have those you can't really worry about self actualization. But we're talking about the life of the average man in the west - physiological and safety needs are usually not a concern.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:19 AM
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Whatever you say, have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:18 AM
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Okay, whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 11:17 AM
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He does. Most people rightly see Bezos as a typical old wealthy man who exploited people to get where he is. And now he's married to a cheating, over the hill, recreational use only woman. In men's eyes, he played himself. Tate is only offensive to women and men who don't want to accept facts.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:39 AM
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You know that will have the opposite effect, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 09:03 AM
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I'm gonna try to explain this without coming off as a dick, but I can't promise that I won't. FDS is full of chronically single women who spent their better years freely giving away sex while subscribed to the "girl boss, yass kween slay, ok skurrt periodt" mentality that they were told represented independence. Going to them for advice about getting and keeping a man is like asking Charlie Sheen for safe sex tips. TRP doesn't tell women to do a god damn thing. TRP tells men what to look for in …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:51 AM
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You find one success story amidst the ocean of FDS failures. Use that strategy if you want. Best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 08:37 AM
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I appreciate the input.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 05:55 AM
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If you can't decide what's important to you in your own life then you deserve to be miserable.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:41 AM
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Create your own purpose.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 03:20 AM
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I'm gonna tackle your post, but in an order different than how you posted it. I've heard men say women's dating advice is bad yet I haven't heard men give out dating advice. Men have been telling women what we want since forever. The problem is twofold: Women don't listen because they don't have to Women don't have to listen because men don't hold their boundaries and penalize them for it If a women is struggling to get a quality boyfriend that will commit to her, what advice would you give her …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/23 01:26 AM
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Bask in your freedom. I love that I'm not valued based on how others can use me. I'm free to live my life as I please, from pure hedonism to intellectual pursuits. It's liberating to know that my roles are wholly determined by my choices rather than societal necessity. I'm not needed to fight a war. I'm not needed to be manual labor. I'm not needed to do a damn thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 08:23 PM
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On Tinder Stopped reading
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 03:48 PM
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Your admiration is irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:23 PM
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Calling someone a liar and calling someone deliberately obtuse isn't civil. Regardless, I'm over it. Have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:59 AM
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Look dude, you can't quit with your incivility when you're having a disagreement with someone who is philosophically aligned with you. I didn't report you for it, but I'm not gonna tolerate it either. I'm arguing from a position of facts, and you're arguing from your feelings. I'm not gonna waste more time with this. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:47 AM
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I get that you're mad. But dude, calm down. This is how women gaslight men Nobody is being gaslit here. The law is written as it is and as another user pointed out, it does work both ways. You're lying right now by pretending this is "legally even" I'm not lying, I've even acknowledged that most sex workers are women. What you're doing is pretending that what is written in black and white isn't what it is. Don't call me a liar ever again btw. Because you and everybody else knows damn well that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:30 AM
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Actually this is a very valid point. Yes, the majority of sex workers are women, but - legally and logically - this is correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 01:21 AM
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Well, at least you're consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:30 AM
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Let me get this right: You're telling me that you've dated a man who has a history of beating every one of his girlfriends? Is that what you're telling me?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:22 AM
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Whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:11 AM
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Wow. A paragraph dodging the question. I'm shocked. Let's try again: I'll put it in the realm of sex and dating then - if you found out that a man used to beat every one of his girlfriends, would you date him? It's a yes or no question, no quibbling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/23 12:09 AM
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Anytime a man has boundaries, Twitter calls him a controlling mYsOgYNiST. Just ignore the wokeies
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 11:16 PM
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Sorry, that's garbage. The idea of "well I've forgiven myself so it's okay" is bullshit. Imagine if I were a serial rapist in the past but now it's okay because I've repented.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:43 PM
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You asked a specific question and I answered it. You're moving goalposts. To be fair, people who think that the past doesn't matter tend to do that a lot. I'll put it in the realm of sex and dating then - if you found out that a man used to beat every one of his girlfriends, would you date him? It's a yes or no question, no quibbling.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:40 PM
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Present is a temporary construction. The past is literally any moment that has occurred. 5 seconds ago is the past.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 10:35 PM
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Alice is a coke addict. She starts dating Kevin. Is Alice going to suddenly not be a coke addict or will she continue doing coke?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:22 PM
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I don't know where this came from but it's not a healthy place.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:21 PM
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"Don't listen to what they say, watch what they do."
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 08:20 PM
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Whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:57 PM
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You and the "sex work is real work" people should come to a decision. Regardless, have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:53 PM
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Because you don’t constantly have your person invaded by strange men Did they volunteer for the job? If so, they accepted the "invasion" by their coworkers. risk contracting incurable diseases Occupational hazard, and a known one. Plenty of jobs have those. Some people have jobs that can kill them. Again, did they volunteer? and have a 75% chance of developing PTSD Oh look, another occupational hazard. The best part about this is that they can quit at any time. Why? Because they are there volunt…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:59 PM
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Why not? You can't just say "nuh uh" without providing reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:49 PM
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You should date the best of the people that gravitate towards you. If you don't like the type you're attracting, then you need to change yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 07:50 AM
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If a cook makes me food and I pay them for their services, am I treating them like an object or am I accepting the terms of the service that they are willingly providing? If a porn star makes porn and they are profiting from my interaction with it, am I treating them like an object or am I accepting the terms of the service that they are willingly providing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:59 AM
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How does sleeping with other men benefit me?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 05:54 AM
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"Horses have four legs" is a true and correct statement. I don't need to mention that deer, dogs, and cows also have four legs because I'm not talking about deer, dogs, or cows.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:50 AM
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Why do you think sex workers shouldn't be proud of it? Because things that are easy aren't worthy of celebrating.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:47 AM
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Imagine letting a sex worker try to shame you into anything regarding relationships. Those with no values do not get to make value judgments.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:46 AM
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Yep. Other men get to fuck his wife and he gets the privilege of paying the costs for it. Hell of a deal for you though, so way to go. Edit: as an aside, I do have to ask... Since you're a sex worker, (if you have an OF, that's sex work) do you think that discussion about your body is now fair game since you made it a commodity?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 04:39 AM
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Even if ONE was real, it's one too many
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:53 AM
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P-pig woman experiment? Don't forget, you wanted this.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 03:40 AM
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Dude. I was in a dark place. My mom was in the hospital, I had just had a career-ending failure to promote and I was at the fucking bottom. I made the mistake of sharing how defeated I was with my (now ex) wife and rather than help me and support me, she started being a bitch and constantly testing my patience to the point of starting arguments with me over dumb shit. It took securing a better job and, sadly, becoming an asshole before she started respecting me again. Our marriage had to end bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:39 AM
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Let me list them: 1. Showing women vulnerability makes them feel unsafe, which kills attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:34 AM
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Women are held to standards as well. Agreed They need to pay for things like rent That's wholly the fault of feminism. Y'all wanted to get out there and make money like men, this is a side effect of that. I mean, y'all had it made. If it were me, I'd have stopped at the right to vote and own property. 🤷🏿‍♂️ look a certain way So do men, and the standards are higher. Fat women can get dates. Fat men can't. Ugly women can get dates. Ugly men can't. Women don't have a bar for height. Men do. Women,…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/23 01:29 AM
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Then why do they date up?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 04:05 AM
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I get it. Having your hypocrisy exposed is a bad look.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 01:34 AM
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To do the quote thing you put a ">" at the start of the line. Be prepared to be a parent when you have sex as a man. The same way a woman should also be prepared to not only be a parent, but to bring any possible pregnancy that results should she decide to bring the fetus to term. So are you against abortion?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/23 12:01 AM
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Unearned self esteem is shit. That whole "you're okay just as you are" when paired with our culture of self gratification and excess is a recipe for disaster.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:57 PM
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Ken: "Man I don't know why I can't get dates." Brian: "Because you're a fat fucking loser with a low paying job and body odor. Fix your shit." Mary: "I don't know why men don't approach me." Lisa: "They're just intimidated by you, men need to be better!"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:54 PM
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Did you even read his post or did you just go full "shields up, red alert" because the photon torpedo of accountability was headed your way? From the study he linked: "One multiyear analysis of the NCVS household survey found that 46% of male victims reported a female perpetrator.23 Of juveniles reporting staff sexual misconduct, 89% were boys reporting abuse by female staff." If I sound angry, it's because I am. Every time we try to have a real conversation about this, it always - every fucking…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:49 PM
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Agreed. Self respect is king, but not enough people are willing to do the work that self respect requires so they settle for self love.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:46 PM
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The father did have a say when he decided to ejaculate his genetic material into a woman. You should be careful with that kind of reasoning. It's dangerously close to "she knew what would happen if she had sex" that the anti-abortion people use. That’s it. That’s his say. So the woman can change her mind, but the man can't? What if he wants to keep the baby, but she's against it? He had a choice to keep it in his body, he didn’t, it’s in hers, so now she decides. If you're going with that argume…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 10:35 PM
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I respect women who can choose abstinence in a world that encourages and celebrates promiscuity. They aren't for me personally, but I'm glad they're doing their thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 08:48 PM
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I can get behind paper abortions where men sign away parental rights during the time that a woman could get an abortion. That would be fair, but we don't see that do we?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 07:23 PM
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I'm just pointing out the disparity in treatment that women have vs men, specifically the right to abandon or abort a child where men don't have that option.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:55 PM
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I don't really see what you'd want fathers in crisis to have? What do you mean by fathers in crisis? I'm using language from their website. The point I'm making is that society goes out of its way to take care of women and men can just get fucked and die in the streets.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:38 PM
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Whatever you say. Have a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:37 PM
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I see your point on WIC. But women have the means to abandon their kids and nobody will stop them. https://shbb.org/ They even have a map to help you find a place to give up your kid. While I understand the why, the fact remains that this effort is directly aimed at mothers. What about fathers in crisis? Fuck us, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:21 PM
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I actually looked up WIC, and you're right there. And don't get me wrong, I don't resent women for having these things. In the case of abortion, give the father a say or, at the least, the option to financially abort. If women can kill the kid, then why is it so bad if men abandon it? And yes, men cannot vote or get federal loans unless they've signed up for the draft. As far as more women drone operators or CEOs, fine. But until we start hearing "we need more women at the waste treatment plant"…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 06:18 PM
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In regards to dating and relationships women sit at the top of the social hierarchy (in general - there are some apex men who sit above them). It is the female of the species (among mammals in general) that determine who has the opportunity to mate and they make men compete for it. Average and below average looking women can command more attention from men than average and below average looking men can get from women. Now, I don't bemoan that - I'm not adverse to competing and I understand that …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:33 PM
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All I see are excuses as to why you enjoy these things and not a damn bit of remorse for it. If you (and women as a whole) were truly about equality, you would be fighting to give men access to these same things or working to rid yourselves of the unearned privilege. But you aren't, because you're the one here in bad faith. Women want the perks and privilege but don't want the responsibility that comes with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 05:26 PM
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Women have the right to unilaterally decide to kill or abandon their offspring, regardless of what the father wants. Women have the right to vote without the requirement to volunteer for military service. Women have access to shelters for abuse and men do not, regardless of abuse happening at roughly equal rates Women are, by default, assumed to be better parents by the legal system Women are allocated funds to take care of themselves and their children (i.e. WIC) and men get to go to jail if we…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 04:06 PM
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Women who mewl the loudest are the ones that have the most "rights", many of which men don't have access to
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:55 PM
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As an aggregate, I don't. I see how broad swathes of women treat the majority of men and, while i rarely get that level of disdain and disrespect, it turns my stomach to see how those at the bottom are treated by those at the top. On an individual level, I value and appreciate the women who I have let into my life and they remind me that assholes and angels exist in every group. The best comparison is those Jelly Belly boxes that have really fucked up flavors in them. Is it 'cherry', or is it 'o…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:18 PM
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What rights have men taken away? Edit: I see downvotes, I don't see debate!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:10 PM
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It's a white supremacist talking point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:10 PM
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true, real antiWhite Holocaust Oh quiet. Your ilk didn't have this energy when black people were dying due to crack. Y'all treated crack like a crime and rather than help people get treatment, you gave them jail time in the decades for simple possession. The idea that there is some anti-white holocaust is parroting the language of the very same people who claim that "tHe HoLoCaUSt wUz a hoAX". If you want sympathy for addicts, you can get it (not from me, but it's out there) but don't pretend th…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 12:07 PM
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[Approved]
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/23 02:00 AM
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"I have a vasectomy" is a powerful aphrodisiac
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:45 PM
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I don't know what you mean. The subtext is lost on me. Can you clarify?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:19 PM
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The fact that you went out of your way to try to insult a stranger says a lot about how empty your life is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/07/23 07:18 PM
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I don't shit on people who fall victim to unfortunate events beyond their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:40 PM
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Me? At this point, I'm out the kid making game. But most men who want the housewife do want kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:33 PM
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I'm not disagreeing with you
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:32 PM
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That's unfortunate, and I'm sorry. I'd go fucking insane if I lived in a place with no gym or place to get the occasional cigar.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:25 PM
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I was under the impression that you thought a man could support a wife and kids on the average salary. The OP mentioned kids and the post you responded too said most men can’t afford that lifestyle. Fair enough. That's my fault, not your error. One kid is a struggle, two would be impossible since you need housing/food/necessities that can accommodate that size of a family. A guy could probably support a wife on 40k but if there’s no kids, why wouldn’t both of you want her to work? That's up to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:24 PM
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Yes. I'm a hard and unforgiving man about a lot of things, but those things are tied to personal choices. I don't shit on people who fall victim to unfortunate events beyond their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:00 PM
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The need to be "entertained" is a social ill. But I guess I'm weird that I find joy with internal pursuits and personal victories.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:49 PM
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First, don't have kids unless your income can support it. That's half the battle. People having kids before the money allows it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:48 PM
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You seem to treat him well, so I don't have a bad word to say.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:38 PM
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I don't blame her, but the problem I have is that she just sees a man as a tool rather than a person with his own wants and needs.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:37 PM
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Sorry about your bad luck. Kids deserve good parents
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:35 PM
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Why is it that people are so damn adverse to living within their means? This is why y'all are broke forever.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:29 PM
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Again, you show your self centered attitude. It's the men you say you want that will write you off.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:28 PM
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Why would I do that? I don't count obese women. They're automatic 0s. I don't count shit I see in media thanks to Photoshop and filters
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:27 PM
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As a father: Really?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:26 PM
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This is why you'll never be a wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:24 PM
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Look, don't blame me for your income situation. Blame yourself. The fact of the matter is that people have problems with money because they feel like they deserve a better quality of life than they've earned. The problem is that, rather than say "I deserve more. I better go fucking earn more" (which is a healthy response), they say "I deserve more, I'm going to be reckless." Either learn to budget or don't. I don't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:22 PM
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I never made any claim that I was special Okay, Ms. "I always get what I want." it was you that insinuated that wanting to be a homemaker means you have to be. I asked you what makes you better than the hundreds of thousands of other women that want that. I get that you're afraid of the answer, but avoiding it doesn't do you any favors. And based on that fact alone there’s not really much point conversing with you on the matter Because I asked you a super scary question that might make you chang…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:18 PM
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If you can't manage your income/expenditures then you might want to take a budgeting course. Not being snarky - most people in the west can't budget for shit. It's too easy to spend money on shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:10 PM
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Most. I don't pretend that women are a mystery. I just generally don't like what I see.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:09 PM
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I understand that answering the question of "what makes me so special" is daunting. Usually introspection can be challenging for people deluded into thinking that they always get what they want, especially where the desires and wishes of other people are concerned. You might want to do a bit of work on yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 10:08 PM
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I am selfish. Most men are selfish. Most people are selfish Blah blah blah, yes we all have egos and shit, but you're intentionally missing the point. Your question (to this point) has been all about you and your wants when what you need to be doing is asking "what do the men I want desire in a wife?" Being selfish shows that I actually give a shit about myself. No, it just shows that you're a potential waste of time. Most women don’t, they sell themselves short every day to fulfil the needs of …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:59 PM
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Most men make ~40K-50K/yr. That's easily doable if people manage their budget. But most women don't wanna do that because they have a wildly skewed notion of income and expenses.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:44 PM
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As a man who values a housewife, I'm open to this idea. But...we have some problems. preferably not want to work and any income I acquire would be mine only Either you're a housewife or you aren't. You don't get to have it both ways. If you're in the working world, that's time away from your responsibility towards your husband and home. That's fine, but you give up the privileges of being a housewife. I want to be a housewife and have a lot time to myself to do whatever I want. This is a red fla…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:43 PM
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What doesn't make sense was the comment I replied to.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:31 PM
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You say that but a lot of women claim that men are impossible to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:25 PM
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You could take the time to explain why, but being snarky is a far better approach I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:10 PM
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What are most men like?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:04 PM
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Most women are products of their environment and will give as little back as little as they can get away with while still staying in line with social expectations of feminine behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:04 PM
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I generally disagree with you, but it sounds like you cracked the code: listen to what your man says he wants, then do that thing. Good work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 09:02 PM
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If she isn't getting commitment, then she doesn't deserve it. The rest is bullshit rationalization
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:57 PM
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Or, maybe their ability to pull higher quality women, on average, makes her look like a 3. But yes, go with "lol incels aren't fucking" as your reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:53 PM
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when every guy from 1-10 thinks they’re entitled to a 10 Holy fucking sweeping generalization Batman!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:50 PM
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Depends why she's a 3. If it's because she's fat, I'm not interested. If she's just homely, then that's fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:49 PM
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Lol no. Gonna blow your mind, but money does not add to a woman's SMV/MMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:43 PM
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He's a tall big dick billionaire. You on the piss mate?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:00 PM
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If a feminist says a nasty thing, does that make it some feminist policy, or is she just an asshole?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:41 PM
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If a feminist says a nasty thing, does that make it some feminist policy, or is she just an asshole? Don't be disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:38 PM
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Okay, whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:26 PM
1

Your anecdotal experience does not apply to the RP group at large.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:26 PM
1

I prefer the one that gives a shit, because that indicates self respect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 11:17 AM
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Whatever you say. You're right, have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:52 AM
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Maybe we shouldn't be looking at celebrities as examples of regular people then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:41 AM
2

I give a shit about weight and I think your ex is insane
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 08:36 AM
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Celebrities don't count - they literally toss themselves into the public eye and make their private lives and business subject to scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:35 AM
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You literally said the only way to fuck up is if you do it on purpose? If I get mugged, did I fuck up or was something done to me? If you can't grasp the difference, then I can see why you think I said what you think I said. The post is about who has it harder in life. And my point still stands. Obviously the person who’s been through extreme trauma will have it harder than the person who’s parents got divorced. Those things happen to fucking everyone. Pretty girls and ugly men deal with trauma.…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:05 AM
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So you think attractive women don’t go through anything tough? Not what I said. In my personal experience talking to attractive men and women, women’s worse trauma will be something crazy like being gang raped at 14 and drugged and raped twice in college while guys say their first girlfriend cheating on them and their parents divorce fucked them up. Everyone has some kind of struggle. Not the point. The post asked a specific question, one that was about generalization and comparison. This thing …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 06:00 AM
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You're misusing that. The person i replied to made a very broad generalization about a school of thought that wasn't true. It's not a no true Scotsman because Not all men subscribe to red pill thought Not all red pill men even agree to everything it has to say I'm gonna blow your mind, but men are individuals capable of making independent judgments.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:56 AM
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The wall is real, and it comes for us all. But you know who we never say has "hit the wall"? Married mothers. Because they aren't looked at the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:54 AM
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Tutorial is a game mode where the game holds your hand and the only way you can fuck up is if you do it on purpose
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:53 AM
1

Tutorial is a game mode where the game holds your hand and the only way you can fuck up is if you do it on purpose
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:53 AM
4

Well you're always going to have some guy doing some shit. But that has nothing to do with TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:35 AM
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Nah, it doesn’t matter if she is a wife or mother I told you it does. You saying nuh-uh isn't going to change that. If she is not catering to the male gaze, she is not fulfilling her role as a woman to a lot of men here. Her "role" once she becomes a wife and mother is to her family. She's not subject to the "male gaze" at that point because we do not see her as a prospective partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:22 AM
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You understand that celebrities, people who put themselves in the public eye, don't ever get to complain about being scrutinized. But, to use your specific example, she looks fucking awful, and it isnt the age that is making people say that. Jamie Lee Curtis is her age and nobody is talking shit about that smoke show. Maybe it isn't about age, but another factor?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:17 AM
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Rating by difficulty: Attractive woman = tutorial Attractive man = easy Ugly man = nightmare mode Ugly woman = no future mode It's fucked up, but a woman's looks play directly into everything she does. A man can compensate with success in other areas.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:13 AM
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If 40 year old mothers have an issue with the way that men look at them, have them get their husbands... ...oh wait. And that is where the distinction lies. We don't have an issue with 40 year old moms and wives looking like 40 year old moms and wives. We have an issue with 40 year old single women who get upset when they get overlooked because they aren't as hot as the 25 year old version of themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 05:09 AM
1

It's a (salad) toss up, usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:44 AM
3

TRP, in general, is about accepting the truths about dating, women, and interacting with them. The whole manipulation thing is more PUA nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 04:42 AM
2

They do it for free in an attempt to garner attention and money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 02:29 AM
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Providing entertainment in this era where everyone is mentally deficient, morally bankrupt, and physically inadequate is probably the most useful skill set available, which is why they're compensated so well for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/23 01:33 AM
1

Sugar babies are prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 10:10 PM
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She’s in decent shape This is delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:47 PM
1

She's fat. Not into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:46 PM
1

Did you mean a prostitute?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 07:25 PM
1

I don't waste time with liars.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 03:08 PM
3

Lots of rap and hip hop. The list can go on and on. Then surely you can name some.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/23 11:13 AM
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Words have meaning. You are either invisible or you aren't. There is no middle ground.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:42 PM
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Your incivility isn't necessary
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 10:41 PM
2

Either you are invisible or you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 09:18 PM
1

Whatever you say. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:59 PM
1

Again, it is common. If you want to ignore reality, that's fine. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:37 PM
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Being invisible to men was PARADISE I wasn’t completely invisible Pick a lane
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:30 PM
2

If women hated it, it wouldn't be common. But it is, because women don't really care.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:29 PM
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I don't have conversations with liars. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 08:24 PM
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as they’re not meaningfully feminist. Oh, so we're just lying now. Have a great day.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 07:56 PM
1

It exists, deal with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 06:23 PM
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It isn't a hard age. Lifestyle factors determine it - if you're a fatty who smokes and drinks, the wall might hit in your mid 20s. If you have a healthy diet and you exercise routinely, it might come in your late 40s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:54 PM
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It really isn't. It comes for us all. The real cope is pretending that we're going to be young and sexually desirable forever when all the evidence points to the exact opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:30 PM
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Growing up you hear all these popular songs charting that openly shame women’s bodies. Please name some songs that shame womens bodies. Other races don’t like black guys, Lol if you say so yet they encourage their songs because they shame women. Or, and this might blow your mind, maybe they just like the music. Small waist, big butt, thick.. same thing over and over again. Yet women get one song about “big boys”. It doesn’t even mention “tall” and some guys lose it lol. What the hell are you tal…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:29 PM
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I wish women who griped about this could spend a year in the shoes of a post-wall woman. The lack of male attention would drive them insane.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 05:26 PM
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And I'm saying that maybe you shouldn't listen to grifters.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:01 PM
4

well , that settles that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 12:52 PM
1

Look at you, acting like FDS isn't real and making money
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 12:47 PM
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The label of mysogynist used to mean something but is been misused as a weapon against anyone who offers criticism of women. That's why when I hear "mYsOgYNy" I know that I'm making headway.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 12:46 PM
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Lol dates from a feminist scholar!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 12:43 PM
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He's cherry picking. You can't really reason with him because he only sees the examples that support his position.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 12:41 PM
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Grifters come in all flavors. You just have a problem with the red pill variety because you have a problem with the red pill and it is easy for you to point at the grifters and say "see, they're all like that, therefore TRP bad!" For every F&F, there is a Derrick Jaxn. For every Rollo there is a Steve Harvey. The world is filled with blue-pilled grifters who make their money by selling comfortable lies to women and men who don't want to improve.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 12:39 PM
4

Average Adam isn't real.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:20 AM
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It's useless as a thought experiment
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 03:10 AM
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It's a wholly made up scenario. There's nothing to be learned here.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:58 AM
1

Thanks, I guess. Goodnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:57 AM
2

Lots of words not to address the point.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:41 AM
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I'm asking because apparently, you have a thing against hypothetical situations so I need to respond accordingly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:41 AM
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Is this a real thing or a hypothetical?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:23 AM
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I said "hypothetical" because he didn't give the details of her past. You're feigning outrage because you can't deal with the point
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:22 AM
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That's poppycock. The idea that he's the winner because he's here now is absolutely blue-pilled. Let's say, hypothetically, that she was a former prostitute. Is he "the winner" because he gets her when she's finally done sleeping around?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:18 AM
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I don't know why you're framing it as "insecurity". If you don't like dating someone with her past, you don't have to try to convince yourself that it's okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/23 02:17 AM
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Except every poster here is forgetting that women hate community dick, too. On paper. If they hated it in practice, then why do we see so much of it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:19 PM
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That's not a blanket truism. I don't want a woman as masculine as me. I prefer her to exhibit feminine behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:18 PM
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Attractive and valuable men can get away with this, and the only justification they need is "because I can."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 10:14 PM
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If you're unattractive, there is no good place. If you're attractive, you can approach anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/23 09:56 PM
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No. I'd never live underneath the authority of a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/23 10:48 AM
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Attraction gets you in the door. It's the other stuff that lets you stay around.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:04 PM
1

Whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:37 PM
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If that's what you wanna take from it, I'm not gonna argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:14 PM
1

My life is pretty easy, and I always have time to do the things I want. In this case, enjoying a Monday afternoon. Hope you're having a good day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:44 PM
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If that helps you make it through the day, I'm not going to take that from you. Have a nice day!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:43 PM
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I said "They" , implying that it's a group I don't belong to. Reading is fundamental.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:40 PM
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They are living a happy life without you. You're living with them rent free in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:32 PM
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You're right. I'm sure in the absence of male leadership, women will surely step up and do an amazing job.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:28 PM
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I'm not really doing anything that important at the moment. I hope your day is going well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:21 PM
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Okay. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:15 PM
2

If you say so. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:14 PM
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It really won't. If your revenge fantasy is what you need, go for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:39 PM
5

Honestly, the ones that are leaving are welcome to do so. I hope they're happy with each other. Doesn't hurt me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:17 PM
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Your value judgment is worthless.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:23 PM
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Blah blah blah
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 02:22 PM
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Lol okay. Just because you hate men doesn't mean that well adjusted women do as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:58 AM
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I don't get the point of your reply, because it doesn't address anything I've said
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:42 AM
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Powerlessness is an extremely unsettling feeling, specifically because you have no way to express it in a healthy way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:32 AM
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A lot of words to not answer a simple question.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 11:22 AM
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You do whatever you want. Nobody can save you from yourself. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:50 AM
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Okay, assuming I accept that 30% of men are sexless, how does that support OPs position that only the top 20% are in relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:49 AM
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If I had a business I could set my own hours and that'd be that. You think owning a small business is that simple? You hate working full time now? Most SBOs work 80hr/wk during the beginning stages of their business. I already know this is the only way I can sustainably increase my income. OR YOU CAN JUST WORK FULL TIME!!! Full time work isn't really for me and I'm not really a good employee anyway. Awwww, you don't like to work? I'm gonna let you in on a secret: most of us don't, which is why t…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:47 AM
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Explain why more than 20% of men are in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:39 AM
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You're not "doing well". You're an adult who lives in a car, refusing to work full time.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:39 AM
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You're trying to use logic with feminists. All it is going to do is frustrate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:35 AM
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Okay let's do it this way: Would you agree that women can be ranked as well? Some women are top tier, some are mid tier, some are bottom? I'm going to assume, for the sake of this, that you don't look at every woman as a "10". Do you think that every woman, despite her ranking, deserves or can attain a man in the top 20%? Again, I'm going to assume you don't. So, would it be "settling" for these mid tier and bottom tier women to get paired up with their SMV equivalents?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:32 AM
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You don't know how numbers work. If you assume that women only date the top 20% then you need to explain why more than 20% of men are in relationships. I'll save you the bullshit you're about to spew - it's because women date men all over the income spectrum. Don't call people liars unless they are demonstrably lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:23 AM
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I see talking to you would be a waste of my time. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:17 AM
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Look, I'm gonna tell you... That's loser talk. What you're doing right now is setting yourself up for a lifetime of misery. You only work 25 hours a week and you're complaining about money?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 10:15 AM
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in a financial position where you are in the top 20% of your country financially (10 or even 1 preferably) If we followed your advice 80% of men will not have relationships, ever. That's how percentages work - there will always be a bottom 80%
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:49 AM
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So you will ask a woman that’s in front of you for their weight? I don't date women who I have to ask that question to. It’s not really one to one for them to ask a man their weight. It isn't, because men generally don't care about their weight. Since you offended them how would you feel if they asked for your dick length. The more common comparison is asking a man's height, which women don't hesitate to do. Why is it that women are allowed to ascertain things that fit their preferences, but men…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 08:35 AM
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If that's what you took from that, then that's on you. I can't save you from yourself, have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:45 AM
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You mean to tell me that his dating outcomes will improve if he gets... /Checks notes ...a bed?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:40 AM
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Look at that, someone with reading comprehension.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:33 AM
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My thoughts are quite sorted out, but if you need me to help you along, I'm happy to do so. At least your edit itemized your objections. If you are content with shitty sex behind dairy kween, why do you hate what the dating market has become? It does not make sense. Find where I said I was "content" with it. I merely said that any man could find it if he met the attractiveness threshold. I was also pretty clear about why I don't like the dating market - specifically that it doesn't select the tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:24 AM
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Lots of stuff to unpack. Not really. If you are content with shitty sex behind dairy kween, I didn't say I was. Do not strawman me. why do you hate what the dating market has become? Because men are no longer required to have the traits I listed to be successful in the dating market, and it encourages men to be rakes. In one sentence you are crying, in the second sentence you are trumpeting the dating dynamics Crying? I do lament that being a good man doesn't get you good outcomes. Trumpeting? N…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:19 AM
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The trade off is I sleep in a car. You have literally nothing to say to me about the importance of finances that I need to hear. I'm not trying to be mean, but you've literally chosen a life of no resources and you're telling me that they don't matter. Tell me, how much luck are you having in the dating market?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 07:12 AM
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The rake in me is quite pleased by this new trend of women being emancipated from social shaming and traditional roles. Why? Because their freedom had an unintended consequence of freeing men as well. In the past, I'd be expected by both women and other men to clear a large number of inconvenient hurdles to have sex with a woman in a way that was socially acceptable (prostitutes have always existed, but their use is still stigmatized). If I wanted sex, I had to: Get an education Find a stable jo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:22 AM
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The average woman, being overweight or obese, isn't attractive enough for 50K/yr Hank from home Depot - social media and a never ending stream of cheap validation just makes them think they are.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:08 AM
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Social media has made it more apparent, yes. I think the negative effect of social media is that now every woman who aspires to be a trophy wife thinks that it's attainable when in reality you have to be an exceptionally good looking woman to command the resources of top-tier men while only offering your looks in return.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:05 AM
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It's always been a part of our world, the only problem really is two categories of people: Those that pretend it doesn't exist Those that know it exists but are unable to make it work for them As a man, I'm acutely aware of the role resources play in the quality of woman that I can attract and keep. It isn't unfair for a woman to expect a reasonable return for the investment of her youth and beauty, just as it isn't unfair for a man to expect a reasonable return for the investment of his protect…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 06:03 AM
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You're not going to bait me into being uncivil. I already demonstrated that nothing you're saying about me is true, so at this point you're just embarrassing yourself. Regardless, I'm done with you. You have nothing of value to add.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 05:05 AM
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Until you apologize for your nonsense, you and I have nothing to discuss
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:59 AM
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Get lost
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:55 AM
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Because your ability to follow a conversation is lacking, I'll go ahead and do the legwork for you. Don't ever speak to me again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:46 AM
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Because your ability to follow a conversation is lacking, I'll go ahead and do the legwork for you. Don't ever speak to me again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:45 AM
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Your value judgments are irrelevant to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 04:43 AM
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I just can't imagine living life where getting upset at someone who thinks that you're being reasonable is part of your day.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:57 AM
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Let's be honest though - most people do not lift to the point where BMI is something that is unreliable. Edit: and I say this as a 6'0" 204lb man
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:26 AM
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Don't be snarky, I was giving you a compliment for being fair and reasonable.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:24 AM
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he can use his eyes and decide if he's happy with my size or not. If I could give you a high five for this I would.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:23 AM
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Then your position is fair
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:20 AM
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Do you ask men how tall they are?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:14 AM
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Personally, I don't ask because: My eyes work. If I can see that she's fat, I don't care about the specific number. She's fat, and that's enough to move her to the bottom of the dating pool. Women lie about their weight. I don't have interest in pointless questions. It only makes them combative and defensive because that question brings up the dreaded spectre of accountability for her personal choices. I just don't give fat women dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/23 03:11 AM
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Great. We've established that women have a myriad of birth control options. And men and women have condoms (the fact that you don't know that blows my mind). If a man does not want to wear a condom, what do you think the woman should do? (The correct answer, since I don't think you'll get there, is "don't have sex with him.") Imagine a woman who is too dumb to buy a condom and insist on its use. Wait, you don't have to imagine it, given the rate of unplanned pregnancies. Stop making terrible arg…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:44 PM
3

Just remember, that beautiful magical princess that you're in love with that wants to "take it slow" with you has probably gone down on a dude she just met in a unisex toilet in a dive bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:38 PM
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Hell fucking yes society allows (and rewards) men who are unapologetically masculine. Life rules as a masculine man if you ignore mewling about "toxic masculinity" - why would I listen to a group of people whose only interest in me is what they can get from me? That's the crux of it - when you hear "toxic masculinity" it's really "don't express your masculinity in ways that don't benefit me" and it's always coming from groups that need masculine men the most. Nobody bitches about toxic masculini…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:32 PM
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I'm really happy for you. I'm huge on people getting what they deserve, but you can't control illness and it can really put a dent in your quality of life.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:25 PM
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I like where your head is at, and sorry about your illness.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:17 PM
2

I don't listen to them anyways because they're full of shit. As you mentioned, 20 year old women don't hesitate to get with men our age. I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that the women complaining about it now that they're on the wrong side of 40 are the very same ones that were quick to do it in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:14 PM
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The capability has nothing to do with it. True or false: women have multiple birth control options that they can independently choose to use I swear you're so invested in absolving women of responsibility that you're okay with making terrible arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:12 PM
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Literally nobody is saying that. Y'all are strawmanning that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:48 PM
1

All the acrobatics to avoid a shred of accountability
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:47 PM
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while contraception can fail even with perfect use, This is a trash copout. When used properly, it's 99.5% effective and you can use more than one type. I mean come on, how hard is it for Kymberlee to remember to pop a pill once a day (she has no problem popping other pills) and then hand the stud of the week a condom before he lets her take her to poundtown at bonnaroo? If a woman gets pregnant from consenting sex, it is wholly her choices that led her there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:47 PM
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Why is every woman in here acting like there isn't an entire pharmaceutical category of things dedicated to letting them be as promiscuous as they want while not reproducing? Oh because if they accept that they can single-handedly prevent unwanted pregnancies someone might start holding them accountable!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:43 PM
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Again, this whole hypothetical scenario happened due to the irresponsibility of both parties. I never attempted to absolve the man of his responsibility. The question you need to ask (and one I'm tired of having to ask) is "Who is in direct control of whether or not she gets pregnant?" There are countless birth control options a woman can choose from to prevent pregnancy but nobody here wants to talk about that because if they accept that women unilaterally control who gets born, they might have…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:35 PM
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I just dont think you like women very much Pointless shaming language. Moving on. have a hard time holding people to the same standard If you were following the thread, you would see that I hold men and women accountable for their actions. The consistent problem here is that nobody wants to hold women accountable and any attempt to do so has people saying things like "I JuSt DoNT tHiNK yOU lIkE wOMeN vERy MucH" in an attempt to absolve women of their responsibility for their own choices.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:26 PM
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Oh they're both dumbasses, but for different reasons. Women have the most to lose with an unwanted pregnancy, so logically they have more of a responsibility in preventing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:19 PM
1

You're quick to have an opinion but are terrible at following a conversation. This is why nobody takes your position seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:18 PM
1

Oh course a consenting adult can do whatever she wants. The rest of your reply is just noise
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:17 PM
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I like how you feel justified in calling me these things but you didn't even continue reading. This is why nobody takes your position seriously
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:16 PM
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If a woman doesn't tell a man to wear a condom and she still lets him have sex with her, that's on her dumb ass
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:14 PM
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If y'all say so. It doesn't bother me if you lie to yourselves. It doesn't really change anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:02 PM
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You, being in a relationship, aren't the category of women who are actively trying to cut out competition. You're sitting in the bleachers. You're not on the field. You might have a more valid opinion because of that fact but the old single girls on the field are full of shit. Why should anyone take your stated reasons at face value if you won't extend others the same courtesy? Because the ones in the field were doing the exact same thing the younger ones are doing when they were their age. They…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:22 PM
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Doesn't matter why, thanks to no fault divorce women can leave when they're "unhaaaaaaphy" and they do. Unless you can suggest some other, more reliable metric to track aside from who initiates the divorce, this is the best one we've got.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 12:11 PM
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Sorry dude, all I see is men who demonize older women for caring about younger women No, what you see is men who accurately assess why older women make a big deal about men dating younger women. It isn't "concern" - it's older women mad that their prospective dating pool is not interested in them. Older women know that they cannot stop younger women from going after the men that older women feel entitled to (and it's hypocritical because when those women were younger, they were the ones dating o…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:51 AM
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If my hypothetical daughter were having sex with someone old enough to be her dad, my only questions would be: Is he respecting you? Is he protecting you? Is he providing for you? Your question is not asked in good faith though, given the way you asked it. You came here presuming hypocrisy on our parts and bad intentions on the part of the hypothetical man in this scenario. We all see through it, but I'll be the one to call you out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 11:26 AM
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🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 09:46 AM
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That's a cute fantasy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 08:59 AM
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It's still mercenary behavior if you're willing to do it for the resources. And let's be real. Women don't date broke men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:13 AM
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I'm gonna reply again because I want you to see this: His post is trying to convince women to abandon their preferences. It's as effective as it is when women tell men that they should date bbws because "they're beautiful kweens". That's not gonna happen. The fact that one of the major draws about dating older men is that we have our shit together (or rather, we should). When I was in my 20s I was getting DESTROYED in the game by older men who had the money, status, and experience and it taught …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:09 AM
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Except you don’t want multiple demographics. For the purpose of the forum, I'm speaking in generalities. If we all spoke to our specific experience and exceptions, we'd be here all fucking day getting nowhere. You don’t want a woman over 25. Some don't. Personally, my criteria for a relationship isn't tied to age. My current girlfriend is 42. I didn’t say “women are mercenaries”. You didn't say it outright, no. I said that women who want a man more than 10 years older than her will only want him…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 07:00 AM
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I don't really care. I date the people I attract and don't get twisted up about not appealing to certain demographics. The world is large and I'm at the intersection of a lot of attractive traits so I tend to have a pretty broad appeal across multiple demographics. But I do appreciate you openly admitting that women are mercenaries - it's refreshingly honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:45 AM
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Depends. If he's a virgin by voice when he has the opportunity to be otherwise, there is nothing wrong with it at all. Unfortunately, we live in a society where men who are virgins get lumped into the "Incel" category. An unspoken thing is that women do not want men that other women don't deem attractive. An incel is peak unattractiveness and even the thought of being with one is enough to revolt most women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:43 AM
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Yeah, well he's wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:35 AM
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Because we aren't interested in them, why is this surprising?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 06:35 AM
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Whatever helps you get through the day buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:53 AM
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Says the man who made a whole thread because his feelings
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:51 AM
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You're not embarrassing me. You're just showing who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:45 AM
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Women who are 18 are old enough to: Vote Enter into contracts Join the military Take on life crippling financial debt Abort a baby Sign away their organs But they aren't capable enough to decide who they want to date?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:44 AM
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You're only 40 minutes late to the comment thread. But I'll tell you, if you're gonna put on the floppy shoes and the big red nose, don't be surprised when people stick around to see the clown. Welcome back HONK HONK
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:41 AM
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Your premise is a bit faulty. Older women don't give a shit what loser men are doing. Older women are getting mad that the successful men that should be available for them aren't interested in them. Remember - women do not date down. Women want their men to be more successful than they are (and that's fine). Women don't give a shit what the loser men are doing because women don't see the loser men as viable partners. Older women are upset because what is happening is that the men who are viable …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:40 AM
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Haha that was a brainy roast
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:19 AM
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Our conversation is over. Have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 05:03 AM
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Whatever you say buddy, goodnight
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:56 AM
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He has managed to fulfill the dream of PPD - bringing together red and blue pill users, feminists and anti-feminists, bloods and crips, all united with one common thought: "This guy is a special kind of asshole."
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:53 AM
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As I said, this conversation is done. If you are confused, please re-read my last message to you. Goodnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:51 AM
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Okay pal. Whatever you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:46 AM
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His whole history here is...odd.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:46 AM
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You clearly read it already.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:44 AM
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Sounds like you violated the rules of the subreddit and suffered the consequences. See, here's the thing fellow PPD user - you agreed to the rules. You don't get to violate those rules and then get indignant about the consequences. We all have to play by those rules, no matter how much some users might infuriate us or try to bait us into responding with personal attacks. If being a mature debater in a debate forum is too much for you to handle, I recommend pressing the "unsubscribe" button, putt…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:41 AM
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It’s silly because an intellectual understanding of the theory of emotional intelligence has no necessary relationship to whether or not an individual or gender has greater emotional intelligence. It is relevant to whether or not someone has the ability to declare if they have more capability and whether or not they can lecture you. Moreover, EI is a practiced skill set and if someone doesn't understand the fundamentals, then how can they even explain what they are doing? Birds can’t “tell you a…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:32 AM
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I'd ask you what they are, but I reckon you'd have to fire up the Google to find out. That's not a dig at you personally - most people would have to do the same. Emotional intelligence is actually a definable thing that most people haven't put in the time to actually study. Ignorance of something isn't a crime, the problem is that a lot of women toss out the term "emotional intelligence" as if they know what it is without actually having done any reading whatsoever, thinking that it's just a bun…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:19 AM
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You're assuming that I disagree that the father did an unethical thing. I never said or implied that. I have zero problem holding men accountable for their actions. My specific gripe with you is that I made it clear that the birth of said child is the direct result of the mother's reproductive irresponsibility and you refuse to acknowledge that, instead trying to move the goalposts. That has been my unerring position and you cannot accept that because it defeats any attempt you make to say "sing…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:11 AM
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None of this makes one bit of difference to the ethical argument that regardless of circumstance of birth So, you just want to totally ignore my point. Got it. Thanks for wasting my time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 04:04 AM
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Really? The person who stayed for their child is not to blame for the other abandoning it. This is another strawman. I at no point blamed the mother for the actions of the father. If you re-read, I was quite clear who I blamed for what. They stepped up while the other stepped out - it's self-evident that the person who took responsibility, is not to blame I will say it again so it is clear. The mother is directly to blame for having sexual intercourse without a method of birth control. Please st…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:55 AM
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Well, have a good evening regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:45 AM
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So you'd rather the child have no parents than one? I did not say that. Do not strawman me. If anything, I'd rather there be no child because the mother took one of the myriad of birth control options available to women to prevent unwanted pregnancies There's literally nothing to debate. Your unwillingness to have the debate doesn't make this statement true. 1 parent stayed for their child. 1 parent abandoned their child. Which parent did wrong? Both. Children should be planned and raised by bot…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:43 AM
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Have the grace to accept a polite dismissal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:33 AM
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Men promise and lie to get pussy Did the woman choose to have sex willingly? Are there ways to have sex without reproduction? The answer to both those questions is "yes", and so therefore reproduction was a choice. Why do we bend over backwards to absolve women of their responsibility when they willingly make awful choices? Reprehensible and absolutely backwards to blame the parent who stepped up rather than the one who stepped out. What is reprehensible is how we give single moms trophies for t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:31 AM
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The parent who stayed for their child while the other parent abandoned it deserves that praise Not all single moms are created by dads abandoning their kids. Single motherhood is the story of a woman owning her responsibility while a man shirks his. Single motherhood is more often a story of women choosing to have unprotected sex with the wrong men, divorcing their husbands (70% of divorces are initiated by women), and other reckless and avoidable behaviors. Single moms are not heroes to either …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:27 AM
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Dont be uncivil if you want a discussion if we interact again. Goodnight.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:23 AM
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I'm a grown man. Jesus, why are you being so condescending when I'm engaging with you in good faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:15 AM
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So is your position that women are dumb or easily fooled?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:13 AM
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Most women are overweight or obese and office women tend to be the worst lot. LOOKING AT YOU, JANICE IN HR.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:04 AM
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Most women are overweight or obese and office women tend to be the worst lot. LOOKING AT YOU, JANICE IN HR.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:04 AM
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Always picking out the exception instead of the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 03:00 AM
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Men look at women like me (and overweight women too) and think we don't have standards or self-respect It isn't about you, actually. You can have standards and self respect for days (and you should, especially self respect) but it isn't about that. The dating market is, ultimately, a competition and whether or not these physical features are your fault, they do move you up/down the ladder. they can just treat us like shit or make zero effort and we'll fuck them out of desperation. People (men an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:38 AM
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Then this conversation is over. I don't tolerate incivility when I haven't given any. I approached this conversation in good faith and engaged with you honestly. Have a good night.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:22 AM
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Or maybe most men are just crap. If you're only attracting interest from a certain type of man, it's time to look in the mirror. The amount of guys that would show up unwashed was astounding. If men think that you're not worth even washing for, again...find a mirror. Men will respect you to the level they think you deserve. You think these same men would approach [insert celebrity here] with that same attitude? Maybe I'm not pretty enough to pull guys who have self respect IDK That isn't my call…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:17 AM
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Because you’re slow. Don't be uncivil. I haven't made a personal attack towards you and I demand the same respect in return. Tinder has like 70+ million users and 75% of those users are men So by your admission, most men are not on tinder. Most men or atleast ALOT of them do not take care of themselves - hence your comment. Not my comment. Your assertion. I simply said that attractive men aren't on tinder because we don't need to be. Moreover, the bar for what women consider "attractive" , espec…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 02:11 AM
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Nothing you said invalidates my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:56 AM
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Explain to me how a man can ensure a woman is interested?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:43 AM
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If a woman is having a problem finding a decent guy in the swaths of men coming her way, then: She's attracting the wrong sort because she is the wrong sort She doesn't want to decide because having options is more fun than committing
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:42 AM
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As I said in my direct reply, men do not care about your money.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:40 AM
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Women, for all their talk of "emotional intelligence" couldn't tell you what the four dimensions of emotional intelligence are. Next time one tries it in a conversation, ask her. She will spout off wrong answers and try to sound deep but she will not come anywhere NEAR being right. They will talk about being in touch with your feelings and communication but they won't specifically name the dimensions because women use terms they don't understand all the damn time (like "gaslighting"). Men are, b…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:37 AM
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I'm gonna blow your mind here: Attractive men, generally, aren't on tinder.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:34 AM
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you'd only assume that women have no challenges if you've never been close to a woman to understand the challenges they have. Those of us who understand women the best are those who have spent time with them. It's ironically inexperienced men who still look at women with halos. Women have to ornate themselves to pleasure a man The pig woman experiment disproves this. All women literally have to do is exist and some man will try to pop a bone in them. Besides, I thought y'all wore makeup for your…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/23 01:32 AM
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Lot of text to say "some men and some women are bad"
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:54 PM
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The best option is "don't get pregnant" and that is amazingly easy if you properly use birth control
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:33 PM
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And the wild part is that they can still have sex, they just choose to forego birth control!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:30 PM
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80% of the babies are made by 20% of the men. These women are choosing these men.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:28 PM
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I'd say that letting a man that you don't really know get you pregnant is an actively dumb decision given the mass number of birth control options available to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:27 PM
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Again, you're making women out to be either idiots or gullible. Why is it that people are quick to infantilize women whenever someone suggests that just maybe some women have shitty decision making abilities?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:16 PM
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Please. Maybe if single motherhood were seen as the failure that it is instead of people celebrating them as the strongest and bravest members of society who have "tHe HardEsT jOb Of aLl tImE" you would have a point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 11:13 PM
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I'm saying you didn't address my point. I don't have time for your brand of dishonesty. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:17 PM
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You're not making sense, and I don't have the patience to help you with this. Have a nice day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:16 PM
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You're missing the point, but I think it's intentional. In every relationship there is disagreement. The person who gets their way is the one in charge.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:06 PM
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You need to learn what a citation is. Please try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:05 PM
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I notice how you didn't address my point. Please try again.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 10:04 PM
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You willingly not understanding doesn't mean it doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:01 PM
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Citation needed.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:26 PM
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Absolutely, which is why I tell men to never get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 08:10 PM
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I agree. OPs post smacks of the trashy whataboutism that arises any time someone suggests that women take a shred of accountability for their decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:49 PM
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So these women are just easily fooled or dumb then? At least my take gives women credit as thinking intelligent beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:42 PM
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Whenever I hear single moms complaining about the "loser" father of their children, all I hear is "I let losers cum inside me." So no, they chose these men and they get the outcomes that come with that choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 07:35 PM
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There are no marriages with "equals". One partner is always the decider.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:52 PM
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Your proof is just another thread from this subreddit. Kinda the snake eating its own tail, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:52 PM
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A lot of older career women mistake "exasperated" for "intimidated". Frankly, an older career woman cannot offer me anything I want. I don't enjoy the idea of trying to build a relationship with someone who has a track record of choosing her career over her husband. I don't enjoy the idea of giving my best years to a woman who gave hers to her career. I don't enjoy the idea of sharing a home with a woman who can't help but see men as competition instead of partners. I don't enjoy the idea of tak…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 06:50 PM
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Tell her that I'm a former pedophile, but that my past should not matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 04:59 PM
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Where is the middle ground between "the truth" and "delusion?" It's still delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 01:01 PM
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This is stupid logic, if a women does this she is going to waste her 20s being faithful to a man that is eventually going to lose interest in her once she "hits the wall" You, in one sentence, demonstrate that you do not understand how men think. The rest of your post is just justifying belonging to the street and the other replies took care of that so I'll address the part I quoted. When a man marries a woman and she is a good wife to him, he doesn't "lose interest" because he's invested time w…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:57 AM
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That's one aspect. Arguably it's the most visible and most controllable but it isn't the only nor the most important.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:52 AM
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Only 20% of men in history have had children. There have always been losers.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:51 AM
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You're confusing the argument. We aren't saying "you can't do OnlyFans." You can do whatever the hell you want. What we are saying is "you can't do OnlyFans and be with me." I can choose to date whomever the hell I want.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/23 09:50 AM
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