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According to reddit, being a single parent in the dating world is equivalent to dating someone who lives in their parents basement at the age of 35, has a long criminal record, or is morbidly obese with a mental disability. 'I found the perfect person - he/she has the same values as me, is very attractive, has their shit together, has a job, house, can cook, loves puppies, calls their mom everyday, volunteers at a hospital, met the president, is an astronaut, saved a family from a burning buildi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/24 02:30 PM
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Good = “hawt”. Not good = “hawt” but also an asshole. Everyone else is invisible.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/24 11:30 PM
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1) 1/2 Asian 2) doenst matter 3) id be more than happy with an averaged face women who was also athletic. 4) 5 foot 10 Yeah, it’s very much the same. But I don’t think I’m being unreasonable at all. If I am please call me out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 09:45 PM
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Those of you on the "looks matter the most for women" side, What is the must frustrating aspect of dating / what is your greatest fear. Mine has ALWAYS been that even after looksmaxxing (to a reasonable degree, barring extreme measures like significant plastic surgery), that I will continue to fail the "minimum looks threshold" level required to attract a women whom I am also attracted to enough to have a physical relationship with, and said women would also have similar high level traits as me …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/24 03:50 PM
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great point - focus on yourself first and hit your goals/etc.
/r/seduction11/06/24 02:55 PM
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yeah, I'm definetely more "in my head" going through things now. I have the basics down. not worried about that at all.
/r/seduction11/06/24 02:54 PM
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Spot On. Packing on muscle is only the "ice on the cake" if a women is already attracted to your face and height, period. Most women would rather a date a skinny guy or guy with beer belly and a nice face over a man with even an average face plus 6 pack/defined arms/etc. As a guy with a dead average face but incredible body, I have had very humbling experiences in my life that highlighted this. last one I was out at a bar and there was this guy sitting next to me - I chatted with about a gym pla…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/24 01:20 PM
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Even talking about how pushback is considered toxic is in itself toxic 😂 you got Downvoted btw the gynocentric police lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/24 10:10 PM
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Called you out your just world fallacy argument perfectly 😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/24 08:40 PM
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Spot on. Game Theory in Action.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/24 03:13 PM
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yeah - its frustrating that women are so attuned to social heirarchy/value perception and men aren't like that. like I'm sitting here thinking "I know what I'm worth and am very happy/confident with my life, but I'm just new here, so I need time to make connections and get social proof" but women see it as "ehh this guy seems lower on the totem pole, meh"
/r/seduction30/05/24 01:48 PM
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interesting point on my personal vibe actually changing (vs just the vibe around me changing). I think I have in that I'm constantly around new social environments trying to make new connections/etc versus in my old envrinment just chilling/having fun. could be portrayed as "needy".
/r/seduction30/05/24 12:23 PM
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ha you did the opposite. yeah - it's a new adventure isn't it.
/r/seduction30/05/24 12:22 PM
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I don't agree that I don't know how - I did totally fine in my old city escalating/approaching and I do great online dating. I think I need to tweak something (I'm not meeting the right women here, my vibe is off since I'm new, etc). agreed that I need to keep trying and experimenting. maybe that is the motivation I need.
/r/seduction30/05/24 12:21 PM
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Depends on the guy and the delta between his 20's and 30's, as well as the women he is around. I arguably look better now than I did in my twenties, mostly because of a unique situation I had where I had an extreme babyface (I looked like a child) that I grew into in my 30's. Using a more direct comparison, women in both their 20's and 30's show way more interest in me now in non-social circle environments (bars, dating apps, etc) than when I was in my twenties. at the same time, when I meet new…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/24 01:06 PM
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What I have an issue with is when some women put way too much emphasis on the percieved external status of a career title or degree. Example: Brad, the financial analysis for goldman sachs making 100K a year with a masters degree in accounting. But he also has 150K in debt from the degree and lives in a thuper fancy apartment with a leased BMW: "OMG I Started dating this guy he has a MASTERS and works for GOLDMAN SACHS and drives a BMW and lives in succh a nice place omg sooo yummyyyyyyy" Poor t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/24 03:48 PM
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yeah, most women care may more about the face/height than muscles. muscles are an added bonus, not someone women are attracted to inherently.
/r/seduction20/05/24 08:14 PM
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within average = nothing special. I am nothing special as it appears to women who don't know me. that is 90% of men. just facts. not humblebragging.
/r/seduction20/05/24 08:13 PM
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haha yeah - well usually most men do far better in social circles/environments than online. I just curated my pictures and profile to be very good - that's the only reason why it works for me to be honest. yeah - good luck on the in person - that is way better IMO if you can pull it off. I never really get those kinds of signals ever in person so please don't waste those opportunities (for me)
/r/seduction20/05/24 08:12 PM
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I'm ripped 10% BF 185 pounds, not true. women prioritize muscles less than men think.
/r/seduction20/05/24 08:04 PM
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it is attractive from a "does this guy have this shit together" perspective - but you also to be at least physically attractive to the women as well.
/r/seduction20/05/24 08:00 PM
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that's the spirit! I just have to know how many blow-offs I'll get before said hottie actually takes an interest.
/r/seduction20/05/24 07:55 PM
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yeah, I don't agree totally. you can be "put together" and still..."nothing special". that's where I am. improving yours looks/dress, although everyone sould, does not gaurantee to make one objectively attractive.
/r/seduction20/05/24 07:54 PM
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confidence and money are not an issue. it's the game-centric social skills that is probably the issue
/r/seduction20/05/24 07:53 PM
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5 11
/r/seduction20/05/24 07:52 PM
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*murse
/r/seduction20/05/24 07:52 PM
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if average = literally means the "average american" = overweight/etc than yes I'm way above. but I'm still "average" in the sense that I'm not someone that is objectively "attractive" if that makes any sense.
/r/seduction20/05/24 07:52 PM
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yeah - I've heard similar feedback. obviously the mysterious brooding angle aint going to work unless you are good looking.
/r/seduction20/05/24 06:52 PM
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Healthcare. made around 180K last year.
/r/seduction20/05/24 06:51 PM
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yeay, this is the main problem I'm aware of.
/r/seduction20/05/24 06:35 PM
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above average lifestyle (above 6 figs, travel, life in a nice condo, good friends, good general vibe about life, good interesting hobbies). I'm socially confident and have no issues chatting with strangers. Meeting women usually in co-ed sports, bars, gym, etc. solid game = as good as I can reasonably get without making it a part time job.
/r/seduction20/05/24 06:34 PM
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fairly successful, but only in environments where I meet new people/social circle and usually rarely with objectively attractive women. in terms of general environments lke bars, coffee shops, gyms - I sometimes get interest from unnattractive women but never get signals from cute/attractive women. in terms of approaching/chatting up a stranger usually I'll get a neutral response (I'm a good conversationalist) but they never seem interested beyond that. most of my success with objectively attrac…
/r/seduction20/05/24 06:28 PM
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Desperation can absolutely be conveyed, unbeknowest to the guy, through subconcious actions (looking around the room trying to capture attention of a women, etc). unless an (actually desperate) guy actively is aware of this and tries to control it, it is pretty obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:55 PM
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oh, they know exactly what they are doing, but their arousal is so high they cannot help themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/24 12:53 PM
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None of this matters unless you have the looks, swag, etc. welcome to the modern dating age. So many potential great relationships not coming to fruition because there is someone “shinier”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/24 07:29 PM
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Image/facepill: A skinny guy with a small frame that has a more masculine face and can grow a beard will be more attractive to women than a fit muscular man who cannot grow good facial hair and has a baby face. Why? 1)babyface without facial hair cannot be compensated with a masculine body - it looks incongruent 2) you can easily compensate for a skinny/small frame body by growing a beard/wearing fitted clothes/having a masculine face when you have clothes on. However, Side by side comparison wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/24 05:12 PM
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if you a major disability you've already come to terms with your situation and there is less "hope"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:27 PM
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yeah that's the whole point and why it sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 06:27 PM
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Arguably the most tortuous position to be in as a guy: you are unable to attract a women who same similar physical "stats" to you as well as smilar values, even after optimizing your looks/image, because of some limiting factor on your end or pure hypergamy. example: you're a 5 foot 5 guy who is in great shape/values fitness, dresses well, is socially confident, good job, similar value - and you fail to attract a women with the same "stats" because you are too short. so you're stuck having to se…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/24 05:39 PM
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crazy thought: you have an EASIER time gaining attraction from an attractive women as an average straight male by transitioning to a women versus staying a man (and ironically becoming more "feminine") why? - supply and demand and niche maxxing. a lot of lesbian/bisexual women will date a more average looking women and have much higher standards for straight men.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/24 06:28 PM
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Phew. Good to hear it’s not just me.
/r/seduction13/05/24 03:25 AM
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No. Often times they offer to pay or even bring me things (little gifts etc)
/r/seduction13/05/24 02:51 AM
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Sometimes. But no not really. I just focus on having fun. But other guys and my buddies also are passive and have girls talking to them.
/r/seduction13/05/24 02:50 AM
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Dood if I was a horrible communicator in real I wouldn’t have success online during….real life dates lol.
/r/seduction13/05/24 01:54 AM
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But for every average man, there is an average woman. yeah, but average women don't show interest in average men, very rarely. I've been in a sports co-ed mixer for a few a months now. there are probably close to 100 people total that rotate in - some new, some constant, a healthy mix of 50/50 men/women. we often get drinks/food after and sometimes go out separetely. none of the women are really into any of the men in the group unless they are objectively the top men (tall, fit, etc). people try…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/24 01:16 PM
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same thing applies. even if you meet women organically, 90% of men aren't going to get said women interested in them. they will have to chase to some extent. I'm not sure what is this fantasy land where a man hangs out, does his thing, meets poeple, and women develop crushes/interest in them. I've only seen it if the man is a top guy. otherwise, the man will have to chase. ask girls out he meets. take an interest in them romantically. still get rejected a ton until he finds one that gives him th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 04:06 PM
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dood, 90% of men won't have women into them if they don't chase. step 2 only happens for the top top top men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/24 02:11 PM
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1) There are a much much higher proportion of women who aren't spoiled by hypergamy/social media/hivemind/hypersexuality than people lead on here 2) "Body Game" - or getting a chiseled physique is a tiny TINY part of the equation for women. see so many men lift only get men and zero women after them. women honestly do NOT give a shit about it unless they already like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/24 02:18 PM
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99% women will find a man over 6 feet tall way more attractive than a 5 foot 6 man. That’s pretty damn objective.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/24 12:04 PM
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ignoring the actual point. I wonder why some people choose to not even address the actual argument? person 1: "I think Fast food is bad for you, you're going to get fat and risk of death increases, I hope people stop eating fast food so much so they understand the consequences" person 2: "omg wow vengeful much?, those undertones, bad vibes bad juju why don't you just stop please" *shovels mountains of food into mouth, dies of heart attack 2 years later*
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 05:24 PM
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In general, I noticed no change in attraction signals from when I was skinny (140lbs) to literally having an ideal body (185lbs, 10-12% bodyfat, V taper, 6 pack). The only change was that women that were attracted to my face were more attracted to me than they would have been before. Agree with other posters. Face>Height>>>>>>Everything Else
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/24 01:07 PM
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Jesus you need to move stat. Im 38 and muscular/ripped and Im nothing special where I live. Lots of attractive, in shape, successful where I am
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/24 11:52 PM
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Always loved having female friends - as long as you find someone you connect with and can have fun with - and trust. it's a different dynamic and women are great at the emotional angle - someone to listen to, talk to, etc. also make great wingwomen! and if you need help with fashion choices....
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/24 12:34 AM
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oh yeah, good point. and then the women would fall for the false advertising time and time again for the shiny swaggy cars, refuse to even touch the reliable ones, and then complain to the better business beareau that "omg there just aRen'T any Good CaRS" I couldnt help myself. you know it's true for a lot of women today ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 11:22 PM
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here is what frustrates most men - #3 seems to be the "gating factor". It's easy to find men with 1,2,4 - it's hard to find men with 1,2,4 that ALSO meet #3 for a lot of women. and #3 is the one that has the LEAST to do with long term partnership. Furthermore, a lot of women leave out #3 when venting their frustrations. look, you have to be attracted to your partner. understood. and I know it's hard to admit the shallowness and pickiness of it, but just please own it. Men have been owning it for…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 06:24 PM
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technically, childfree people pay for those with children - especially single parents, through our tax system. you don't get tax benefits if you don't have kids. if you are poor and need support you get more money if you have kids. Corporate landlords are for pure profit. your buddy renting out his condo is not a leech. WGTOW? just let them be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 06:19 PM
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wow, I feel so bad! so many choices and im just gettin sooooo stressed because I can't pick one. yesterday I went to the lambo dealership with my trust fund money and they showed me 25 lambos! ugh! which one do I pick? I cannot choose. ugh picking a car is so stressful why don't the poor people understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/24 05:44 PM
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Being in a relationship with a good woman boosts your attractiveness tenfold. less needy because you already have someone in general when you are out with you women, other women notice. you also get into conversations more easily with women becuase you are already with one (safety factor) a lot of guys I know in relationships are dressed by their women (seriously). Women have a good eye for grooming, style and will often buy their clothes/suggest haircuts for their man. this results in their guy…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/24 02:52 PM
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yeah 6-6.5 (or just nicely above average) sounds about right. it's not a bad place to be - as long as you have other things going for you and put yourself out there you will eventually find someone. it won't be easy, but if you persist in all probability it will happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 11:01 PM
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if your family comments on you - it's meaningless. "oh you look so handsome today son" if your friends comment on you - it means you are above average: "bro you looking fire tonight" or a female friend saying "oh wow I like how that shirt fits on you, looking fresh" if you have random women you don't know comment on you - you are a legit CHAD. "hey handsome" I'd say that's honestly the easiest way to tell. success on apps, relationships can also work but that can be dependent on factors than per…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:15 PM
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Utlimately this is just a simple - "it's unreasonable to be celibate, but there is ALWAYS a risk" sort of stance. some things in life - are technically unfair, and this is one them, that unfortunately should not be changed since protection of children is priority #1. even though it's a shitty situation - the only foolproof not have sex (as a women could SAY she doesnt want kids / be on birth control / etc. then CHANGE her mind, and you'd be still on the hook). the ONE thing I'm completely agains…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/24 09:03 PM
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dating in 1950 "swell guy" timmy approaches: oh hi! thought I'd introduce myself lady: "oh, he's nice, and he has a good job. you know, my papa always said its good to find a guy with a good job, takes care of himself, has good morals, he ain't terrible looking either. dating in 2024: normal stable guy approaches: oh hi! my name is ___ lady: "oh em g, seriously? I only date guys over 6 feet. his nose lose kind of funny. he gave me the ick when he couldn't pronounce one word correctly" swag guy a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 06:35 PM
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weakness = the perception that you are consistently failing to control your emotions and outcome, which the women then starts interprating as an internal character flaw rather than a one-off "oh he had a bad day". good vulnerability: "I'm struggling with making friends, it reallly hit me hard today, I'm new to the city. I've made an effort every week to put myself out there and meet people, at bars, sports, meet ups but nothing seems to stick. I finally broke down a bit last night and admiited i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/24 02:21 PM
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god I hate it when redditors invalidate your stances on completely unrelated subreddits because you posted something on another subreddit. "10 reasons why pizza tastes great" "omg, don't even respond to this person, look at their post history, they constantly post on a subreddit that mentions the red pill incel vibes, stay away"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/24 12:35 PM
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By rare I don’t mean it never happens - moreso that it just happens probably a few times a year max. This is actually normal for most men. I’d say if I interact with 100 single women, 2 or 3 of them would walk away and think “oh he’s kind of cute”. Which again - is fairly par for the course. To get that one that finds me baseline cute - I need to interact with probably close to 100 women - which takes close to a year- thus it becomes just a pain unless I want to get into approaching etc. People …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 04:41 PM
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uh, if you are short or have an unneapealing face getting fit isn't going to make you attractive. it might help a little, but usually not enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 03:23 PM
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What is the right mindset/next steps for men who optimized their looks, but still don't meet the minimum attraction threshold for women. example - a man who gets a muscular body/6 pack/lean, dresses very well, grooms, but still isn't considered at least "oh he's cute" by some subset of women? I can find women that find my attractive, but it is incredibly rare and only if they like my "look". I'm half asian and have a neotonous babyface that is just not appealing - and the funny thing is that get…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/24 03:14 PM
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your entire post is posited on the assumption that you MUST be attracted to them initially for ANYTHING to work. what level of attraction are we talking about? mind-blowing I want to jump his bones? just a little? he's kind of cute? studies have shown attraction can grow over time, especially with women. usually, you have to ..not find them at least unnattractive....that is the bare minimum. here is what is concerning - people are under the assumption that life will "just be fine" in perpetuity …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 06:41 PM
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This. Although I think the real truth lies somewhere in the middle of what women espouse on here and youtube street interviews. as a 5 foot 10 slightly above average looking guy, I should be failing miserably according to street interviews - but I do just fine. not amazing, but just fine. I don't really use my instagram, facebook, etc either. I will say that standards for a lot of women have gone up too much - and the problem is that these women (that want relationships) are self sabotoging them…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/24 01:13 PM
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*hangs head in shame*
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 02:28 PM
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the majority of women reject decent men becuase they don't meet the minimum looks threshold (despite being in shape). he's balding. he's a ginger. "I don't date blondes". he's too short. his nose is funny. he has funny fingers. on. and on and on. Also, don't even mention all the minitiature "icks" that don't really matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:54 PM
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let' see how I stack up: 1: extremely fit - so I far exceed 2: whoops :D -no STDS but well exceed 5+ also I'm older 3: exceed 4: far exceed - -own my house I've fully reno'd, do everything myself in the house 5: I have "adult ADHD". I like to try new things, have an insiatiable curiousity, I will never stagnate. so I guess...sorrtaaaa meet?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/23 01:53 PM
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