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| 192 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women. | Debate | TruNorth556 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 10:57 PM |
| 186 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago. | Debate | TruNorth556 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 02:33 AM |
| 49 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons. | Debate | TruNorth556 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 06:26 PM |
| 10 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think. | Debate | TruNorth556 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 09:49 PM |
| 0 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor. | Debate | TruNorth556 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 10:58 PM |
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| 0 | The reason birth rates are declining is men not wanting serious/long-term relationshipsThe problem is there is only a few men attractive enough to do this all the time and women only want to be with those men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/04/25 05:54 PM |
| 0 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.I was a bit drunk, but what she said was almost exactly that. She had a few of her friends at the table and she wanted me to go over there to talk to her. I'm guessing that probably made her more comfortable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/24 05:03 AM |
| 1 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.Like for example a woman who was really hot and approached me at a bar said she was a physical therapist. They make almost $100k in my area. After thinking about it more I don't think she was being shallow. She just was looking for someone who makes more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/24 02:54 AM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.That's a lot of oversimplifying dude. Some women actually don't hook up a lot. Granted it's fewer than it use to be. If a woman wants to have a one night stand with me I think how many others has she done this with? More normal women will want to at least get to know you a bit. Party girls don't care at all. While I agree that women all have roughly the same biological and social drives, there is some variation in the expression of those. So I don't agree that if she won't f on the first date sh… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/10/24 02:38 AM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.If I were a pro bullshitter I could probably get laid a lot. I am good enough looking to get attention sometimes. But I have 0 game. I fail all the shit tests. Point is I don’t really want that. At my age it seems really immature to be just hooking up with women. I think if a woman wants you for casual sex, and will like have a baby with you that’s the best. But again that’s just for my personal goals and preferences. You might love casual sex, so by your standards the ability to get that is bes… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/10/24 11:44 PM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Even in Minneapolis/Twin cities you wouldn’t be able to buy much if a home on that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 08:47 PM |
| 0 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.The fact that some people don’t even think it’s possible makes me think I must be good looking for my age. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 07:47 PM |
| 0 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.$100k is like middle class money in Minneapolis even the greater twin cities. Yeah, only the too 20% make that. But it’s not enough for champagne wishes and caviar dreams. If she makes the same we can afford a halfway decent house in the suburbs. Think about that for a second. That is in reality what that would purchase. The broader society conversation is more about women accepting men as partners in other ways, not necessarily always the expectation of providers. Has nothing to do with enforce… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 06:26 PM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Nah, that’s not my experience. It’s always “what do you do?” “i work in the financial sector” “What exactly? Company? How long have you been there? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 04:02 PM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Where does lying ever get anyone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 03:26 PM |
| 0 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Nah, it’s even more sad than that for me. As a few others have pointed out my income of $60k is woefully inadequate. I am unmarriagable. I honestly do not think she was looking for champagne wishes and caviar dreams. Believe I am the type of guy who jumps all over double standards. Women overwhelmingly want to date men who make more than them or at least the same. Does that make them all gold diggers? I’ve gone over and over this in my head. I think there is a little bit of unfairness in regards… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 03:18 PM |
| 0 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Nah, I am the kind if guy that will call out a gold digger if I see one. I don’t think this was that. I am not going to sit here and make excuses for myself. This chick was a physical therapist. She makes more than me. It’s not unreasonable for her to act in that way and that was never a point I was making. I mean we can argue about feminism and its effects in gender roles and social standards. But that is a society conversation. Not one that applies directly to individual interactions I was mak… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 02:00 PM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Maybe, but it seemed like she really wanted to know. So I figured I’ll be upfront. You don’t waste my time I won’t waste yours kind of thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 01:56 PM |
| 1 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.What’s so weird is that I feel like I have been approached by respectable women who were looking for someone that makes more money. It seems very market oriented | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 01:55 PM |
| 2 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.So there might be some truth to it! Never been to Australia but when I’ve travelled in Europe, even the UK it seems like Americans are irritating to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 01:52 PM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Side note. I heard Australian women like American men. Is there any truth to that? Is it like here in the states where a British or Australian accent is a bit of a novelty and interesting to women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 01:23 PM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Fair enough. I suppose that is possible. But I usually stay away from drunk women who hit on me because I know it’s just them being stupid. This interaction didn’t seem that way Your culture might be a bit different. Here usually women won’t talk to you at the bar unless they are interested. Because otherwise they are inviting weirdos to harass them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 01:11 PM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.She wasn’t drunk. I was though | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 12:25 PM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.I am always trying to make more. If it's not that much why does it matter so much? I kind of felt a connection with her. But it's like whatever. Nothing I can do about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 09:39 AM |
| 4 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.My parents were lawyers growing up in the Midwest. People always thought we were rich. Basically just ordinary middle class people. They were solo practitioners. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 07:10 AM |
| 2 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.Casual sex is fun when you're in college. As I've gotten older it has become less fun. It can be awkward and make you feel sleazy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 07:07 AM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.That's just my point though. A lot of men seem to think being attractive is enough. Apparently it's on a spectrum. I am attractive enough that a very hot woman approaches me. But not so attractive that I can get away with being lame. Lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 06:53 AM |
| 1 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.Like every time a woman has approached me, she just goes through her shit tests and I fail and I am done in 5 minutes. If I was really that good looking they wouldn't care. I am good looking enough to get some attention sometimes. But I am not a pro bullshitter. I am honestly also kind of messed up from what I went through in Iraq. Before then I was a lot more social. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 05:59 AM |
| 1 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.If I was then it wouldn't be so difficult | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 05:45 AM |
| 1 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.I guess I am Chad lol. But I can't be. Women just shit test me and I'm done in 5 minutes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 04:37 AM |
| 2 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.I can't do the pro bullshitter thing. I'm just too honest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 04:36 AM |
| 2 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.So you're admitting that agency doesn't matter that much? I could have lied and said I am an engineer making $150k and probably could have fucked her if I was convincing enough | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 02:37 AM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Hardly anyone makes that kind of money. Top 20% | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 01:54 AM |
| 2 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Can anyone be swayed by a bullshitter! Yes or no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 01:53 AM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.I agree with you those men are wrong. Being attractive enough doesn't win | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 01:00 AM |
| 2 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.When she flags you down out of a crowd of men. Lol okay | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 12:44 AM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.I offer a lot more than money. I am handy, I can fix anything. My family is all wealthy people. Although I have never been comfortable tapping that network to get a job, it's still a value I am good with money, I have a fair amount of savings. I think I would be a good dad. I think I would be a good match for her. But I am too honest, too upfront. I will not bullshit at all. I think that's my problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 12:42 AM |
| 2 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.You're trying to pretend that people can't be swayed by bullshitters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 12:37 AM |
| 3 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.I don't think women are the only victims of pro bullshitters but okay | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 12:27 AM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.I served in the Marines in Iraq. So I have a certain way about me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 12:23 AM |
| 2 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.She seemed too genuine for this. I live in a city. I am use to bullshit every day. The vibe I got was that she didn't have a boyfriend and was looking for an eligible partner to start a family with | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 12:22 AM |
| 2 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Pro bullshitters probably | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 12:16 AM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.I am OP so they're just shooting in the dark hoping for a high salary? 😬 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 12:15 AM |
| 2 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Minneapolis. Not even coastal. Just a frozen city | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 12:13 AM |
| 6 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.It's subtle but it's not. When you live in a city it's all about cash. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 12:09 AM |
| – | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.I wish I knew myself. All these black pill bros keep talking about Chad. When a woman approaches you talk to me then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 12:07 AM |
| 2 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.Life's a bitch isn't It? That guy has what I need and I have what he needs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/10/24 12:05 AM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.When a woman comes up to you and looks at you like she wants to jump into bed with you, then she gets the ick when she finds out you are an average Joe, then you tell me how much this matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 11:58 PM |
| 2 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.They didn't have to say it it was implied. Take a look at my other post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 11:51 PM |
| 2 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.It's not about what I believe. It's about social standards. You're being woefully naive as to how things actually are. Yeah the good women will bet on you in the long run. Sounds like you're one of those. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 11:50 PM |
| -1 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.I wish I was | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 11:41 PM |
| 0 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.A house in the twin cities costs a lot. I think you're being unfair to her. Doubt she wanted a Benz. Probably just a nice house in the burbs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 11:39 PM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Women can be sexually attracted to you enough to flag you down and ask for your attention but then be turned off when you don't have enough money | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 11:38 PM |
| 2 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Think from her shoes, she wants family. She wants a house and newer cars, ect. More than I can offer. I don't really blame her. It's more a social and systemic issue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 11:36 PM |
| -2 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.I can see the look in their eyes, then the change when it comes to my career. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 11:32 PM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.She told me she was a physical therapist. She probably makes around $100k. Me mako 60 makes me ineligible | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 11:31 PM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.She seemed like an honest small town girl who wanted to make babies. But she was looking for a man with house money. I was attractive enough for her to go out of her way to try to get my attention. But she was hoping I'd be more successful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 11:25 PM |
| 3 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Pro bullshitters who only care about getting in her pants. Simple Midwestern guys who have had honesty drilled into their brains their entire lives and couldn't lie if they tried. No. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 11:21 PM |
| 3 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.I just think plain attraction isn't going to be enough unless you're some irresistible adonis man. These dudes on here are all Chad Chad Chad, if she's attracted to you from moment 1 you're golden! No that's not how any of this works unless you're a pro bullshitter and all you care about is getting laid. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 11:19 PM |
| 1 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.What's sad is that she had a good vibe. She was a small town girl. I didn't get sugar baby vibes. I just felt like my looks got me past go, then my income was a full stop no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 11:14 PM |
| 3 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.I guess. So maybe I should dress shabily so women know I make $60k? 😆 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 11:06 PM |
| 2 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.I never said how old I was. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 11:04 PM |
| 2 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.She seemed like she was looking for something. She didn't ask me directly but she definitely wanted to know what kind of money I make. She made more than me I'm sure and that was a turn off. I look like I might be a lawyer or something because I dress nice. Probably overdressed for a dive bar | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 11:01 PM |
| 3 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Because you can be attractive enough for that but still not enough to date her. Sure if I were a pro bullshitter probably could have taken her home for some bedroom fun but that's not what I really want at my age. Done the college thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 10:52 PM |
| 0 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.I am below 6' I am probably 5' 10 1/2" flat foot without my shoes. Probably 5' 11" or a bit more if I have thick soles shoes on | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 10:49 PM |
| 2 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.Yeah, I guess I am somewhat tall. What of it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 10:44 PM |
| 0 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.Nah if I had a big housing the burbs some of these women would marry me and have my babies | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 10:44 PM |
| 5 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.What sad is she seemed real, genuine just she wanted someone with more financial means | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 10:40 PM |
| 2 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.She seemed attracted to me physically as she picked me out of a crowd and spit an opener at me | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 10:32 PM |
| 10 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.It seemed like she really wanted to know. She kept asking about what I do if I am salary or hourly how long I have worked there etc. so I just say it. If it seems like money is what you want why waste time? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 10:13 PM |
| 4 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.Have a nice urban apartment in a trendy area | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 10:10 PM |
| 9 | If you're not making $100k or more looks don't matter as much as you think.She said she was a physical therapist. They make almost $100k | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 10:08 PM |
| 5 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.Try making less than 100k in a major city | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 09:16 PM |
| 3 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.I think it's a little bit unfair. Women wanted to compete with men in the workforce. They wanted to stop playing female gender roles. But yet they still want men to play the male roles. I'm just a random dude and I don't know everything. Just saying this is how I see things. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 09:06 PM |
| 1 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.A nerdy 25 year old man who is a software engineer and makes $150k could easily land a 28-30 year old hot chick who wants kids. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 09:00 PM |
| 6 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.I'm not 6 ft but I am almost 5'11" so I look giant compared to many women in person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 08:53 PM |
| 3 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.That's the funniest thing about all this. All the men on here are putting looks on a pedestal. As if that's all you need to land a relationship. I wouldn't say gold diggers. It's more just becoming less attractive when your income is taken into account. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 08:52 PM |
| 2 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.I am amazed and shocked when younger women are interested in me at 38. I must look okay. But the way I am dressed and my vibe gives off more money and I think it's just a huge letdown that I'm an ordinary guy | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 08:29 PM |
| 3 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.I just don't buy that because of first all surveys and data most recently still show women prefer men who make more. Second, my personal experience of saying what I make and seeing that look of crushing disappointment. "You're so cute how do you only make $60k?" Especially in an urban environment where women are accountants and lawyers and you're in some boring office job. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 08:27 PM |
| 2 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.Funny. I always wear blue shirts. My favorite. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 08:22 PM |
| 1 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.I am 38. I don't want to date a 21 year old. I am an ordinary Midwestern everyman. Not Leo DiCaprio. When I get approached by women in their 20s I am always so shocked. I guess I am tall enough where they can't see my bald spot! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 08:16 PM |
| 5 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.That doesn't matter one bit. Go look at the data, I am a millennial too. Most women want to be with men who make more than them. Just a fact. Men are still held to male gender roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 08:13 PM |
| 2 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.Women just get the ick unless you make at least $100k. It's just the way it is now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 07:41 PM |
| 6 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.Well despite that, every bit of evidence seems to indicate that women still want to date men who make more money than they do. Turns out men are still held to gender roles women aren't. I have literally seen women's looks of disappointment when they find out how much I make. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 07:23 PM |
| 5 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.Typically women want to date a man who they are attracted to and can be a provider. This isn’t really disputable. A ton of research shows this is the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 07:06 PM |
| 1 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.If it’s a slow night at the bar and she’s with all her dorky friendzoned guys, that’s when she approaches. With my luck usually by the time I’m 3 sheets to the wind just forgetting about life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 06:49 PM |
| 5 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.I never cold approach anymore. I am 38 and I am just too tired. I more just put myself in social situations. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 06:41 PM |
| 0 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.I’ve had women go home with me and then ghost me after because I am not making 6 figs | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.I mean I agree if you’re super bad looking it’s going to be even harder, maybe virtually impossible if you’re a total mutant. But if you make a basic salary and you aren’t like a male model or something it’s still pretty hard. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 06:35 PM |
| 0 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.Inundated? Nah, nothing like that. If I go out every weekend for like 6 months I might get approached a few of those weekends. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 06:32 PM |
| 1 | Bars are one of the only real social spaces left where one can meet women. But they’re problematic for so many reasons.Idk nothing. Just an observation | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/10/24 06:30 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.She doesn’t want to split things that way, 50/50 or no kids. She doesn’t think it’s fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Because what happens is, at the baseline median income, it’s very hard to have kids and afford daycare or one parent being out of the workforce. With people who make much more, it’s one tradeoff or the other. Someone is going to have to be the breadwinner and someone is going to have to do most of the domestic labor. People on this thread keep pointing to women still doing most domestic labor, but that’s because the people who have kids are the ones making these tradeoffs. Fewer and fewer people… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/09/24 11:25 PM |
| 0 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Perhaps this speaks to what I'm saying, as a lawyer you surely understand the impacts of affirmative action, reporting, and good faith requirements. A white male is the last person you want to hire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 04:11 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Well you must be lucky. My brother graduated law school in 2003. He couldn't get anyone to even give him an interview. He made dean's list 2 out of 3 years and scored top 10% on the LSAT. He started as a solo practitioner because he had no choice. He makes good money now, but not what you make. He's a strong litigator too. He has won jury trials, huge law suits. Been in local news. He's a street lawyer as he says. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 04:00 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.My brother has many lawyer friends who just went insane. My brother, my mom, and my dad are all a little insane. There's something about that business LOL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 03:57 AM |
| 0 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.What kind of law school did you attend? If you go to a small state school and you're a solo practitioner, you're just not going to make what you would make at a white shoe law firm. Yeah, if I get into the University of Chicago Law School, I could probably make what you make. But if I went to Montana, or Iowa. I would never get that kind of job. Seems like you don't really understand the profession overall. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 03:50 AM |
| 4 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.People keep making this same argument, over and over again. I keep refuting it. Every bit of data we can find about American women's dating preferences shows they want men who make more than them. This of course implies traditional male gender roles are still valid. The couples who ARE having kids are the ones willing to make these tradeoffs, but it's decreasing every day. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 03:46 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.I did get accepted to a few law schools. If I would have remotely thought it would bring me $270k I would have gone. But based on my family experience, solo practitioners, there's no way I would ever make that much and the time it would take me to build up business to even start paying off $300k, no way it was a suicide mission. I have no debt right now, better than that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.I'm not young, I'm 38. And my brother, my mom, and my dad never made $270k per year as lawyers. They all make about 100k-150k at their peak. People always thought I was rich growing up because my parents were lawyers. My step dad was also a lawyer. It's not always that lucrative. My brother says "Tall building lawyers" are non competent and make a ton of money. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 03:32 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.It makes no sense for me to ever have kids then. Because if I wanted to with a woman who makes the same as me, we'd make 120k total. In Minneapolis MN where I live, or even the greater twin cities metro, that is not enough to afford a family comfortably. Why would I get married without having a family? Companionship is nice, I like her company. But she wants me to do stuff for her all the time. Why should I do that if we're not working towards a common goal? I'm smart, but not in a technical sor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 03:17 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.My girlfriend makes $170k. I make $60k. I have a nice urban apartment in a trendy neighborhood that I get for extremely low rent because I manage the property for a family member. I have very low expenses and can afford to have savings and a lot of fun money. She owns a home in a rural area about an hour away from where I live. I know she wants me to propose marriage. But she hasn't agreed to kids even though I said 3 years ago when we got together that I wanted at least 1 minimum. I am not goin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 02:52 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Difference in perspective I guess. I've dealt with authority all my life. The idea of being a stay at home dad and being able to decide how I want to get things done without being micromanaged seems liberating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 02:38 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.I think both parents should always work hard to spend time with the kids. But that's not the same thing as splitting domestic labor evenly. Like you might help the kids do homework, or spend quality time with them while the other parent is making dinner. But that's not the same as saying, well, you need to do laundry on these days and you need to grocery shop on these days, and on these days you need to clean the bathrooms and the floors. If one parent is doing the earning and one is staying hom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 02:32 AM |
| 2 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.The number of stay at home housewives without kids is completely irrelevant. We're talking about women's willingness to do either more domestic labor or more cash providing. If you're going to ignore all the people who aren't having kids because women aren't willing to make either tradeoff, you're being dishonest and self serving. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 02:19 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.But yet in past times this wasn't the case, everyone wanted kids at equal rates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 02:16 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2024/07/25/the-experiences-of-u-s-adults-who-dont-have-children/#:~:text=Among%20those%20ages%2018%20to,13%25) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 02:12 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.I absolutely look at it as a job, and if my job is to care for kids I work until it's done. The same way I treat every job. I've done a lot of things in my life, from serving in the military, to working tough, hard scrabble jobs, to working in corporate finance. Would I ask her to help a little bit? Absolutely, but if she's paying for everything; That would be limited. I would want her to spend time with the kids when she gets home because they need their mother. But I would want her to relax an… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 02:10 AM |
| -1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.I never said women should give up the workforce and go back. I'm saying if they want to take on the roles of men, they need to take on the responsibilities as well. Instead they get the ick from being the breadwinner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 02:01 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.It absolutely has a massive impact on the stats. If you're looking at a group of people who are willing to make tradeoffs where the woman does more domestic labor, and ignoring a large group who aren't having kids because the woman doesn't want to do either that or be a provider, you're not getting an accurate picture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 01:50 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Yeah, I mean that's fair. I do have down time. I work hybrid so I'm at home a lot of days. But I just look at it from my perspective. If I were to be a stay at home dad, I would do everything I possibly could to make my wife's life easier. I would feel great dishonor and guilt at not doing anything I could do. It's just the way I am. Death before dishonor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 01:47 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.They want the man to make more and be the provider, but they also want him to basically follow their orders. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 01:45 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.More women say they don't want kids at all than men, by at least a 10% clip. Society wide, that's huge. Then when you consider wanting it but never getting around to it, that number grows. Why do fewer women want to have kids now? In previous generations it was everyone who wanted them. It's because women aim for career and boss babe life. But it's hollow and that tracks with the psychological issues that young women are experiencing at higher levels than ever before. It's Durkheim's anomie. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 01:43 AM |
| 0 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.People keep saying this and I keep refuting it. Fewer people are having kids and are waiting longer and having fewer kids. The people who are having kids are the ones willing to make these tradeoffs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 01:30 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Women need to be held to one social standard or another. If they want to be men, they should be held to male standards then. IF they want to be women they should be held to those standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 01:29 AM |
| -1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.LOL I work in Corporate America, but I've worked on dirty jobsites in construction. In both you have to give up your breaks to get things done. Yeah, PTO is great, you use it to take a family vacation, which you pay for, which is nice. Family vacations are a blast, the wife goes too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 01:28 AM |
| -1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp9599kwnhM | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 01:25 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.One of two things, women either need to be willing to be breadwinners, instead of preferring men who make more than them and getting "The ick" for providing for a man and a family. Or they need to be more willing to do the majority of domestic duties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 01:23 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.This is all correlated with women entering the workforce and having full independence. Which is fine and good, but then they need to be willing to take on other social responsibilities. Right now, it seems like men are the only ones with responsibilities. Women are just supposed to be yas queen boss girls and men are supposed to do everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 01:13 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.The average age of marriage and of first kid continues to increase. This is an unassailable fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 01:09 AM |
| 0 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.This isn't based on my opinion, it's based on every single piece of available information about the dating preferences if American women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:59 AM |
| 0 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.People keep making this argument without thinking it through. People are staying single for longer and not having kids at all or having kids later because of these tradeoffs. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:58 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Trump has staunchly defended social security and medicare, over the objections of many Republicans. I agree, healthcare in the US is all fucked up and it needs to be changed. But that's a larger social issue. The Democrats want to bring in unlimited numbers of economic migrants. We can't support that and have some kind of universal healthcare. Tons of evidence to back this up. As for deadbeat dads, again I agree. But there also needs to be some social responsibility placed on women. There are pl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:55 AM |
| -4 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.These statistics ignore several key factors. -Households paying for daycare, so kids are cared for 40 hours a week by non family entities. Fewer people having kids because of these tradeoffs. The people that are having families are the ones willing to make these tradeoffs. A lot of these studies rely on self reporting from women about what housework they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:50 AM |
| -2 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.And I've said numerous times that those stats are problematic for a number of reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:48 AM |
| -2 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.People who are staying single longer than ever, and are more prone to suicide and drug overdose are indeed adrift from society. This fits well within Durkheim's framework. As these things were brought on by massive social and economic changes. These people aren't some revolutionaries with a coherent manifesto. There are people on the left and the right I respect, the fact of the matter is neither side really has a cogent vision of how society should function. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:46 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.I think social welfare programs tend to increase the incentive for single motherhood. While I do think people who were dealt shitty cards deserve for society to give them a hand up, it shouldn't be a hand out and a license to pop out kids without a traditional family structure that will ensure they're going to be productive members of society. We don't need more criminals and drug addicts. I am all for social safety nets and universal programs, but we're not there as a society right now. I'm big… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:41 AM |
| 0 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.I have cared for family children for extended periods. I know perfectly well the responsibilities it entails. On the contrary, I have offered to be a stay at home dad. She makes more than me. She doesn't want that. So I would have to spend basically 100% of my income in splitting childcare and household expenses with her, and on top of that, based on what's been going on I would have to keep the house clean and do most everything else too. Probably my fault, I'm too much of a simp and I let her … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:37 AM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.People keep making this argument, but it ignores the reality. More young men and women are staying single for longer than ever before and are having fewer kids. This is driven by women unwilling to date men who make less than them or to take on a majority of domestic duties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:26 AM |
| -6 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Fewer people are having families because of these tradeoffs. This is just a fact. I have a girlfriend, but these tradeoffs may prevent us from having a family, we'll see. It's an ongoing issue in our relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:22 AM |
| -1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Vote for Trump then LOL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:20 AM |
| 2 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.People are having fewer kids because they can't afford it without women making a career sacrifice or being a breadwinner which gives them the ick. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:19 AM |
| -1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Those studies are misleading for a number of reasons. For one, they ignore that in many of these families people are paying for daycare, so neither parent is caring for the kid the majority of the time. So yeah, if the woman spends time breastfeeding and taking care of the infant. These are things men simply can't do. That's going to spike her contributions. Most also rely on self reporting from women, which is not really the best measure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:17 AM |
| -2 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Of course there were, but at that time women were held to a different social standard. They were expected to be stay at home moms. Now they're not expected to do those duties or be a provider. While men are still expected to do the same things AND traditionally female duties. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:10 AM |
| 0 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Women seem to express these preferences in many different ways. Women prefer to be with men who make more than them. Most women don't want to be stay at home moms. Most women don't want to do more domestic duties than their partner or spouse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:09 AM |
| 0 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.On average it's minuscule amounts, but individual comparisons will look different. And you also have to look at the increasing unmarried state of young people. Women are choosing to stay single rather than marry men who make less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:07 AM |
| -2 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.The EU has many of the same issues. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:05 AM |
| 0 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.I'm just speaking to what I would do. I wouldn't feel right passing off work that I can do if I'm not employed. If there are other tradeoffs to be had, that's fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:04 AM |
| 0 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.My friend and his wife have a situation where she makes less than he does, so he picks up the tab for the extra cost of childcare so she can work. So her job essentially costs money. On top of that, she wants him to do more work than her at home. He does all the standard male stuff, yard care, shoveling snow, home repairs etc. Then she wants him to clean and cook most of the time. I feel like this is just standard with a lot of women now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/24 12:02 AM |
| -4 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Yes, one is going to have to make the tradeoff. When women don't want to be the provider or do the majority of domestic labor, they are basically not responsible for anything. This is why we're seeing falling birthrates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:57 PM |
| -5 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.I think a lot of modern stay at home moms seem to have a lot of time to play around on TiKTok. We've already established this is a minority situation, but it's still significant numbers. All I can say is that if I were to be a stay at home dad, I would be guilt ridden asking my wife to do anything I can't actually do myself. Responsibility is what drives me. Should a man help in these situations? Absolutely, he should, bit it shouldn't be an equal split. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Random sampling is widely considered to be an effective method, if it's done properly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:52 PM |
| 2 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Young women on average are out earning young men in many major cities. This is the future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:51 PM |
| 2 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Because there isn't enough money to do it feasibly. Or if there is the woman might have to be the provider or the stay at home mom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:47 PM |
| 3 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Random sampling is a tried and true method. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Right, but you're excluding the people who aren't having families for these reasons. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:45 PM |
| 0 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.I guess to me it's just a matter of dignity. If my wife is working to support me and my family, I'm going to make damn sure I am doing everything within my capability to make her life easier. Yeah, I'll ask for some help, but I'm not going to ask her to do anything I can't do myself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Women want men to do the stereotypical male roles (making more money) AND do the domestic labor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:41 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.There's a ton of surveys and think pieces about modern women complaining that they can't find men who make more than them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:40 PM |
| -3 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Yes, I have cared for family for extended periods. I know how hard it can be. It's called being disciplined and not complaining. Listen to some Jordan Peterson. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:40 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Increasingly young women are outearning young men in the largest metro areas. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:38 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Right, but those middle class families having kids is critical to everything. Those are the people that contribute the most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:38 PM |
| -2 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Yeah, paying your bills for things you use is the bare minimum. "Ask not what you country can do for you, but what you can do for your country" | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:37 PM |
| 3 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.That's a fact, it's not anecdotal, and it backs what I'm saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:36 PM |
| 0 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.That's fair enough. I'm just saying it shouldn't be a totally equal split in domestic duties. The same goes for men if they want to be stay at home dads. If I was a stay at home dad, I would make sure everything is perfect for my wife. I wouldn't want her to have to worry about taking care of stuff around the house. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:35 PM |
| 2 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Women overwhelmingly express a preference to be with men who make more money than them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:33 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.It's changing quickly, because there aren't enough high paid jobs for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:32 PM |
| 2 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.He should help with the kids and give you a chance to unwind, but you shouldn't be making him do dishes and such if you're not working a job all day and he is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:30 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Having 0 concern for posterity is not noble. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:28 PM |
| 3 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Well if you're both making enough to afford childcare while you work on top of everything else, that works. But that is increasingly not the case. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:27 PM |
| 0 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Agreed, that's not what I'm arguing for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:26 PM |
| 0 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Stay at home moms are a minority, and their behavior is only part of the larger social context. Women who make much more do not want to support stay at home dads in the way men do for women. It's a multifacited problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:25 PM |
| -6 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Great, you aren't really contributing to society. That's your business, but you can't argue it's good for society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:24 PM |
| -2 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.I'm not saying he should just kick back and have a beer, some help of course is going to be logical. But he shouldn't be expected to share equally. Like the house should be kept clean, and groceries replenished and so on. He can do things like help kids with their homework while mom unwinds, or fix, remodel, repair things as necessary and other duties that make sense. I've seen stay at home moms on social media saying they think their husband should help them with cleaning and grocery shopping, … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:23 PM |
| 5 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Women overwhelmingly express a preference to be with men who make more than them. While they don't want to be held to old gender roles, they want men to be. Both parents working only works if both make enough to split all the expenses. A lot of times it makes more sense for one parent to care for the kid instead of paying for daycare. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.The problem is the income disparities. Typically one parent makes a lot more. Increasingly women are. In many large US cities young women out earn young men. This is the result of reporting requirements and affirmative action. But even if it's the man making more, the woman then doesn't want to pick up the domestic responsibilities. There are tradeoffs, when one parent is making more, whichever one that may be, it typically makes more sense for the one with less earning power to care for the kid… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:18 PM |
| 0 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.So you honestly think I man should go to work most likely in excess of 40 hours to support his family, and on top of that he should share equally in domestic duties when his wife stays home? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:15 PM |
| -9 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Women need to start being more willing to take on one responsibility or the other. Men need to do the same, but I think in this case it's ultimately on women because they choose to give birth or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:12 PM |
| -1 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.I agree it's a minority, but even in those situations women seem to want men to contribute equally to domestic duties. Do you really think that's equitable or logical? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:10 PM |
| 3 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.Most women express a preference for romantic relationships with men who earn more than them. Few women even want to be stay at home moms. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:09 PM |
| -4 | Women don't want to be breadwinners, or do domestic labor.The problem is that there is increasingly income disparities between men and women. Either the woman makes more or the man does. In many large US metro areas young women are out earning young men. So at some point a division of labor is neccesary. Especially when you get into the choices and tradeoffs that come with having a family. Childcare is very expensive, and if both parents aren't making a lot, it usually makes more sense for one parent to take care of the child for the 6 years before the… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/08/24 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Idk I hooked up with women who weren’t totally wasted. Wouldn’t feel comfortable doing that in today’s world. A little buzz does help though to be a social facilitator | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 10:05 PM |
| 3 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I’m 5’ 10” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/24 08:52 AM |
| – | Men might as well cold approach women in person given how the dating app market skews so heavily against their favor.It is excellent satire of the situation with gyms though. Where women prance around and try hard to get you to look at them and then if your gaze casts in their direction for 1 second they put you on TikTok. You have to completely avoid looking at them at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/24 12:01 AM |
| 3 | Men might as well cold approach women in person given how the dating app market skews so heavily against their favor.Yeah, that’s true. Reddit isn’t the best sample, but there does seem to be a number of troubling stats about the 18-25 cohort. As far as being insular and lonely. Yeah, you do have to talk to a lot. I ended up getting with a woman who is only a few years younger than me. The 10 year age difference is a bit much. But it made me realize that dating apps are mental punishment for men. When women who would ignore you on those are hooking up with you at a bar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 09:52 PM |
| 2 | Men might as well cold approach women in person given how the dating app market skews so heavily against their favor.That’s what I mean. I think younger men are being discouraged from getting out there because of the dating app situation. I actually have a girlfriend. But I see guys I work with who are decent looking young guys and don’t have girlfriends because they have no luck on dating apps, and there isn’t really anyone open in their social circle. When I was looking about 3 years ago before I met my girlfriend I tried the apps and had no luck. So I just got out there. Signed up for every volunteer and co… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 09:38 PM |
| – | Men might as well cold approach women in person given how the dating app market skews so heavily against their favor.For sure, plenty of women look great as they age, especially if they take good care of themselves. I am in pretty good shape. I work out and do a lot of outdoor activities. I’m not like jacked or anything. I’m not super tall either, like 5’10. I consider myself pretty average looking. I get varied responses. Some women say I am super good looking. Others just say I am generic and plain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 09:21 PM |
| 6 | Men might as well cold approach women in person given how the dating app market skews so heavily against their favor.Whatever you say, 10 years younger is much younger. That for me is a 28 year old woman. I know some women hate it when men are able to get with younger women than them, but many can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 08:56 PM |
| – | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.The issue is with women making it taboo and then throwing shade on young men for not approaching them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 08:42 PM |
| – | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I think many women do like being approached in public spaces. Your viewpoint doesn’t universally speak for every single woman in the world. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 08:26 PM |
| 1 | Men might as well cold approach women in person given how the dating app market skews so heavily against their favor.Problem is they’re all wild party girls that I have met there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 08:25 PM |
| – | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.No, it was socially acceptable for a long time. What happened was women figured out they could cash in on attention on social media by trying to humiliate men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 08:12 PM |
| 12 | Men might as well cold approach women in person given how the dating app market skews so heavily against their favor.It pretty much is, when I approach women I have some social cues already. Cold approach just means you don’t know them have never talked to them before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 08:06 PM |
| – | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.It use to be acceptable to approach women at grocery stores and other contexts. It’s only been in the last 7-10 years that this became not okay | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 08:01 PM |
| 8 | Men might as well cold approach women in person given how the dating app market skews so heavily against their favor.Um, a woman who is 10 years younger than me is 28 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 07:58 PM |
| 3 | Men might as well cold approach women in person given how the dating app market skews so heavily against their favor.Not true, a lot of women just use those sites /apps for validation: | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 06:52 PM |
| -1 | Men might as well cold approach women in person given how the dating app market skews so heavily against their favor.Um, no. I have hooked up with much younger women off cold approaches | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 06:49 PM |
| – | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Uh, I’m 38. It was very normal when I was 18-25. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Men might as well cold approach women in person given how the dating app market skews so heavily against their favor.Wow, that’s not been my experience even being older and cold approaching younger women at bars. Most will talk to me at least a little bit. A few will say no thanks altogether. Even smaller slice were rude about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 06:37 PM |
| – | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.As I said in the OP, I’m sure there is a ring of truth to that. But there is also the aspect of making approaches taboo. To the point where if you try to politely flirt and ask a barista for her number you’re a huge asshole even if you just say thank you and have a nice day and nothing more if she says no. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 06:10 PM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.That's really the subject under discussion here. I'm arguing that it should be acceptable to approach women in more everyday settings. I was never able to find a girlfriend at bars, those are all party girls. I found my girlfriend at a corporate junket, I asked for her number and it was a huge risk. She could have reported me to my company and I could have been fired. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 04:16 AM |
| 3 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I have a girlfriend now, for 2.5 years. But I'm not sure if it's going to work out because I want kids and she's focused on her career. But thank you, I appreciate your well wishes and a great exchange! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 04:06 AM |
| 0 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.IDK I met my girlfriend at a corporate junket, she was from another company there. I wouldn't dare approach anyone I work with directly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 03:54 AM |
| 3 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.This is what I mean by party girls, like yeah, I am a dude, I totally would have hooked up with her not going to sugar coat it and act like I'm some kind of hero. But the fact of the matter is, she most likely would not have ever made a good girlfriend>fiance>wife. So what really is the point? The next day I thought about it and I was glad she didn't come home with me. Some strange woman in my apartment, my personal space. It just doesn't seem right, as much as the sex sounded appealing at the t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 03:52 AM |
| 2 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I live in a pretty big city, over the years I've spent a lot of time in these places. I've had a few hookups, even been approached a few times. But the women that are there and open to talking are usually party girls. The shy sort of middle America women that I like just don't go there. I met my girlfriend and a corporate junket. I spent the whole night talking to her, and then I made a point to walk out to the parking lot with her and I worked up the courage to ask for her number. The rest is h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 03:39 AM |
| 2 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.First off, I'm sorry for what happened to you. If I ever see a man harassing a woman, I step in, and I have even when punching above my weight. (USMC 2004-2008) Death before dishonor. Ridiculous that men actually ask directly for sex. I have never done that even when being drunk. Looking back, there are a few situations where I think women were actually looking for me to do that. But I just can't, I wasn't raised that way. Like I remember a woman flashing me, and saying "I'm not going to have se… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 03:33 AM |
| 4 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.The problem is that today, those places really don't exist. Bars and clubs cater to and attract certain demographics. Women I've met at bars and clubs are always party girls, not fiance/wife material. So what does that leave? Hobby groups? Niche subcultures with small followings. I just think women need to be more open to being approached politely and not make such a big deal out if it. A shy young man works up the courage to ask a barista for her number at a coffee shop. So what? She's at work?… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 03:23 AM |
| 6 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.LOL He's not lazy, he has more options so he doesn't care as much. If he didn't he would put more effort in to try to win you over. It's just the way it is with supply and demand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 03:20 AM |
| 3 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Hindsight is 2020 my friend. I had a lot of fun in college, but I still wish I could go back and do things differently. I think we all miss opportunities in life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 03:17 AM |
| 2 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Very few men are going to turn violent. These things are overplayed in media so there is an irrational fear of it. Asking for sex immediately is insane. I'm not sure if you've experienced that, but no men that I know do stuff like that. Even when I was in college and everyone was hooking up, that wasn't really a thing. I can understand women's apprehension and not wanting to be harassed. But that's not the same as just shaming some poor young man who worked up the courage to ask a barista for he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 03:09 AM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.This is true, but that category is a lot wider in person than it is in online dating apps. I am convinced of that. As an aging millennial in my late 30's who has been able to hook up with Gen Z women at bars and had next to 0 matches on dating apps, I am very convinced they're bullshit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 02:50 AM |
| 4 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.What is the big deal about a man politely asking for a woman's number and saying he thought she was cute? I can understand not wanting to be harassed, but just having a polite interaction where the man just takes no for an answer and goes on his merry way, I don't understand why that's such a big deal. It just seems like women complain about this online to get attention and show how cool they are that men are approaching them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 02:45 AM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Glad that we could find some common ground. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 02:42 AM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Sure I would apply that to any sort of petty complaint about minor inconveniences and indignities of everyday life. However, I'm not nearly as concerned about it because the social implications aren't as deep. People who do door to door sales are just trying to make a living, I don't fault them for that. Most of the time they are polite and just give you their business card and leave when you say no. I don't think they deserve to be lambasted for trying to make a living. In the same way, I don't… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.There's a couple women. But the women in this sub are older from what I understand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 02:27 AM |
| 1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I don't think women going on social media and ranting about men politely approaching them and not harrasing should be as socially acceptable as it is. Women are going to public gyms now and trying to attract attention from men so that they can post it on TikTok. Gyms should be banning recording because it's a privacy issue. But since women want to do it, the companies are allowing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 02:17 AM |
| 5 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.These shits are a minority and they make all men look bad. I've damn near come to blows with a guy who was harassing my sister one night. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:57 AM |
| 2 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I've been approached a few times by hot women, and every time it got me off guard and I wasn't ready for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:55 AM |
| 5 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.It's really a very immature way of looking at the world "I should never have to deal with anyone I don't like or find attractive" Well, the world doesn't revolve around you. You shouldn't have to deal with harassment and relentless men continuing to bother you after you've said no. But simply being politely approached and nothing more is not a reason to complain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:47 AM |
| 5 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I completely agree, I think women do this for attention. When they get on TokTok and talk about some guy approaching them it gets attention. For guys that don't take no for an answer, I think they deserve what they get and they should be shamed. It's not right to harass people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:44 AM |
| 0 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I think it's a victim mentality and a plea for attention. I don't respect anyone who does that. If a guy is an asshole and won't leave you alone, I think you should shame that man, even on social media because that kind of behavior should not be tolerated in polite society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:38 AM |
| 9 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I doubt I am more good looking than average. I am the everyman. I have tried dating apps and had next to 0 matches. The matches that I did get were women I felt were below my level, as I've dated prettier women in the past. When approaching in person at bars I had much better luck. I learned to work on my style, clothing, hair, etc. I can understand a lot of what you're saying. I'm in my late 30s, I use to have a lot of friends. Some old ones I still talk to. But as you age, things change, peopl… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:35 AM |
| 9 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.That's a great example actually, the workplace is one of the settings women are making completely taboo. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:20 AM |
| 7 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I mean body language is a thing. You can learn how to approach women. I'm not defending not working on yourself and putting in the effort to be social. The issue I have is with women making it taboo to approach and then lambasting young men for not doing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:19 AM |
| 2 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Honestly I think it even goes beyond that. As in grow up and stop making a big deal out of a minor inconvenience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:12 AM |
| 2 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Honestly i think women should just not make a big deal out if it. It’s a minor inconvenience to be politely approached by a man you’re not interested in. Going on tiktok and twitter and throwing a tantrum about it is immature. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 01:07 AM |
| 6 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.At bars | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 12:51 AM |
| 4 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Some, but most were polite rejections. Few were rude and cruel about it | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 12:48 AM |
| 8 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Women's standards are inscrutable to me. No women would swipe me on dating apps. But I was able to hook up with younger women in bars. Some women reacted negatively when I approached them, but most just said they're not interested in talking but thank you. Many would give me a chance and shit test me to see if I have game (I don't have very good game LOL) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 12:43 AM |
| -1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I disagree, wholeheartedly. I am in my late 30's and a few years ago before I met my girlfriend I approached women in bars and got attention from women much younger than me, even hookups. I am decent looking, but really no super Chad or anything. I have the everyman thing going I guess. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 12:41 AM |
| 8 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I wouldn't worry about it. I'm sure my girlfriend would never have swiped me on a dating app. I couldn't care less, those things are stupid. I do think women's standards are different on apps than real life. Think of it this way, you have to be the hottest among 5000 guys to be swiped. But in real life, your competition is more limited and she views you differently. Especially when you add in your valence and personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 12:10 AM |
| 3 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Yeah, I agree with you there. But it's also an issue of women making it taboo. If I can get a woman 10 years younger flirting with me it must be because men her own age don't approach. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 12:05 AM |
| 4 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.That's hilarious. I just thought I never got any matches, and even if I did it was probably an accidental swipe. But when I've gone out to bars I've managed to hook up with younger women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 12:00 AM |
| 4 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Why are you assuming the women criticizing men on Twitter are a) the same ones wanting men to leave them alone and b) representative of women as a whole? Okay, but then the flip side of that is that you also don't speak for the women who are saying "I wish men had the balls to approach me more" You don't have to drink. And that's fine if you don't want to go to those places, but you don't get to complain that it's effectively impossible to meet women I was saying in another comment, I live in a … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 11:57 PM |
| 4 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.That's fair, it's not a very scientific poll. But I think the issue still stands. I get where women are coming from, I've had to brow beat men to stay away from my sister when we've gone out together, because she told them get away and they wouldn't listen to her. But THAT is what should be made socially unacceptable. If a guy approaches you at a grocery store, or out and about, or even if you're a Barista or waitress at work, he says "Hey you're cute, can I have you're number?" You say "No, I d… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 11:52 PM |
| 2 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.This can be learned though. I have gotten a lot better at it. I met my girlfriend at a corporate junket. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 11:48 PM |
| 10 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Women aren't required to make themselves available to men. They're perfectly within their rights to want to be able to go about their business without having to put up with every guy who wants to shoot their shot. Again, this is fine and good, but then these men are just abiding by common social mores by never approaching women. So they don't deserve any criticism for it. Bars, clubs, and parties are not "infinitesimally small" areas of life A lot of people don't even go to those, more and more … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 11:45 PM |
| 3 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I don't really think that's true, I think it's a minority of men who want strictly hookup sex. When I use to go out with my buddies late 20's early 30's, we were always looking to find a girlfriend because we wanted families. I mean we were always okay with a hookup, but it can be disappointing. For men that can get unlimited hookups all the time, they don't care. But for men that have to try hard, sure it's a win when you got a hookup, but you're still single when she goes home. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 11:43 PM |
| 2 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I hear ya, and even if you have some luck like I've had, keeping it interesting is a challenge. I remember one time I was talking to this woman, and she was really flirting with me, got handsy and all that. Then when we started talking a bit more she mentioned her age. I was a bit shocked that someone 10 years younger than me was interested like that. When I acted surprised, she got offended because it gave off the impression that I thought she looked older. If you're not like like a master conv… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 11:37 PM |
| -1 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.That's fair, I think these men should get out there more. I found my girlfriend that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 11:27 PM |
| 5 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I live in a fairly large city, I have spent a lot of time in bars and clubs. While I've had some luck approaching women there, got a few hookups, even been approached myself once or twice, I was never able to find a girlfriend there. Most were wild party girls who would both be there and open to talking. I mean hobby groups, I've been to some of those too, each has its own following/Demographic and it's true there are a lot of them. But a huge portion of people don't participate in any thing lik… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 11:24 PM |
| 4 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.In my experience it has a higher success rate than the apps, that's just me though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 11:18 PM |
| 54 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.I personally think it's a combination of things. It's because people in that generation are living their lives online. This also tracks with higher depression rates and other issues. They might think their results on dating apps will mirror the real world. For me that's not the case, for whatever reason the same women like me in person who would probably have not ever swiped me. It's also because women are saying they don't want it from one side of the mouths, and then from the other criticizing… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 11:15 PM |
| 10 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Maybe so, but then women shouldn't really be saying men are somehow deficient for not approaching them. Because they would rather not, so that 45% is just abiding by the social mores that society has set forth for them. One can hardy accuse them of being insular, maladjusted, and lazy just for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 11:08 PM |
| 14 | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.Yeah, I’m fine with that. Opinion noted. A lot of women are saying men are deficient for never having approached. No, they’re just as “off limits” as any two strangers are to each other. I mean, men aren't saying "Don't try to talk to me or be my friend bro. it's weird" So I beg to differ that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorIt's hard to say, on the one hand it could be a primal desire to spread your seed far and wide. On the other hand, humans are inherently monogomous. The fact that our offspring are vulnerable and require constant care and attention to reach maturity has evolved that into our nature. It's actually really remarkable to think about early human life. Living in caves and makeshift structures with a baby. Babies can die from anything. Being able to raise them in that environment is a feat of epic prop… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 05:12 AM |
| 2 | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorYeah, theoretically it increases your status. But not really. When you get older it doesn't matter. I slept with a lot of hot girls in college. No one gives a shit now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 04:56 AM |
| 8 | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorI've been on both sides of this. Now in my late 30's I feel like I've seen everything. I've been the hookup guy been straight up told "I'm here for a good time, not a long time" And I've been told I'm the type of reliable, everyman that is appealing to a woman looking for stability. The fact of the matter is, in both cases you're a 2nd choice. When you're the hookup guy in your 20's, you were cool enough. A party guy with lots of friends, funny, outgoing, somewhat attractive. She would have sex … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 04:52 AM |
| 6 | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorMy girlfriend only initiates when she's ovulating, and then she really wants it. Demands it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 04:36 AM |
| 3 | Why "Marriage Material" isn't a compliment to men and being the "hookup guy" is often superiorWhen she doesn't want to be your girlfriend you're always a 2nd choice. I've been through the same, when I was in my 20's I hooked up with plenty of women I couldn't keep around. The real reason is that they wanted to chase what they thought was better. When you get older and you're dating women in your age cohort, it becomes more about reliability and what you can do for them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 04:35 AM |
| – | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADAre all posts on here subject to mod approval before going up? Or am I flagged for some reason? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 03:25 AM |
| 1 | LOOKS WEEKLY DISCUSSION THREADHello. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 03:24 AM |
| 1 | The overwhelming majority of people bitching about or even paying attention to “age gap” relationships are undesirable women and virtue signaling menFair and understandable | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 07:38 PM |
| 4 | The overwhelming majority of people bitching about or even paying attention to “age gap” relationships are undesirable women and virtue signaling menIf a guy, 5-7 years older than you is super attractive, fit, wealthy, and charismatic I doubt you would say no to a date with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 07:19 PM |
| 6 | If most women had the same standards as single parent women the dating pool would be more balanced, women would be less broken hearted, and it would benefit everyone.He means they are willing to date average looking men if they make a good income. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 09:48 PM |
| 2 | I think many men, it seems won’t object to being objectified and relegated to fuckzone/booty calls by women. But they would take offense at being the placeholder bf/spouse… how would you feel if a woman tells you she finds you attractive for a fling, but not HV enough for a relationship/marriage?I never liked it when women did this to me. I never wanted to be a playa type. In my 20’s when a lot of my friends had girlfriends I would hear a lot of “I’m here for a good time not a long time” Was always a bummer. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 08:34 PM |
| 3 | Social skills determinism is not real, and there's zero evidence for it. When they aren't lying and claiming social skills don't matter for dating, doomer red pillers / black pillers seem to have recently latched on this new lie, as another way to trick guys into not improving their social skills.Candidates for a job may have minimal qualifications. But there are always candidates with more specific degrees, more exactly relevant experience, more experience, ect. Those are all going to matter more than soft skills. Like 80 percent of women rate 80% of men as unattractive. So if you’re in that bottom 80% you’ll need to be extremely charismatic and funny for it to really move the needle for you. More and more women are choosing to stat single or be in situationships with more attractive me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 07:41 PM |
| 3 | Social skills determinism is not real, and there's zero evidence for it. When they aren't lying and claiming social skills don't matter for dating, doomer red pillers / black pillers seem to have recently latched on this new lie, as another way to trick guys into not improving their social skills.It’s a lot like how people say soft skills are the most important factor in getting a good job. Soft skills do matter, but without the right experience and education they are meaningless. If you have those skills and also have soft skills you may have an edge over a candidate that doesn’t have great soft skills. Similarly, in the dating world if you are very attractive women generally won’t care if you’re kind of shy and socially awkward. May even think it’s cute. If you want social skills to he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 07:19 PM |
| 2 | Friends of perpetually single men often have a different perspective than perpetually single men themselvesGetting hookups at the club is easy. A lot of those women go there to get drunk and hookup. I've had women approach me in those places (not that often but a few times) Problem is they aren't relationship material. So unless you just want to hookup, it's not worth the time and effort. I feel like hooking up is like a college kid thing, I wouldn't be interested in it in my late 30's. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 02:13 AM |
| 1 | Why do so many guys have a seething hatred for single moms?How is it men's fault when most men are gainfully employed and it's a small percentage of scofflaws who a significant number of women are choosing for relationships and getting pregnant by? Women have no responsibilities to evaluate men on anything beyond their appearance and "Sexiness"? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 01:12 AM |
| 1 | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menYeah, I was approached at bars and parties a few times by decent looking women. But so few times I can almost remember them all, probably like 5 times in my entire life. Most recent was probably 5-6 years ago, but I don't go out anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 09:24 PM |
| 1 | Vogue dating columnist casually admits that women have it hard in dating because they need to compete for a minority of menNah, I've been approached by women a few times. I am definately not that good looking most women ignored me when I was on dating apps. Very plain and generic. Sometimes it's just luck. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 08:58 PM |
| 1 | Why do so many guys have a seething hatred for single moms?I don’t hate single mothers. But it is a social problem. They typically can’t support their kids and the state needs to step in and the taxpayer ends up footing the bill for their poor life choices. On top of that kids raised by single mothers have far greater likelihood of bad social outcomes like spending time in prison. Women usually end up single mothers because the men they find sexy and exciting are actually losers. Those men have their share of blame. But honestly they are a small portion… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 04:34 PM |
| 1 | You wouldn't have more luck in the dating markets of the pastOr it's that women think that the rich 6' tall player is in a relationship with her when he's just having fun. I see this all the time in my social circle and it's sad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 12:18 AM |
| 1 | You wouldn't have more luck in the dating markets of the pastBoth of those are unlikely to account for the majority of it. Given how far out of their age range the majority of women typically date and the percentage of women who are lesbians. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 11:39 PM |
| 1 | You wouldn't have more luck in the dating markets of the pastMen are single at basically double the rate, despite comparable numbers in the population. That suggests that women are sharing the top men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 11:13 PM |
| 1 | You wouldn't have more luck in the dating markets of the pastThese are the results of one survey, a ton of data suggests that women are in situationships with the top men who are playing the field with multiple women. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3868557-most-young-men-are-single-most-young-women-are-not/#:~:text=Nearly%20half%20of%20all%20young,at%20a%2030%2Dyear%20low. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-state-of-our-unions/202302/why-are-so-many-young-men-single-and-sexless#:~:text=Recent%20Pew%20research%20indicates%20that,prio… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 10:51 PM |
| 1 | You wouldn't have more luck in the dating markets of the pastHoeflation is definitely real and has skyrocketed even in the past 15 years. Women have unlimited access to casual sex with men who are out of their league. They complain on social media about these men all day. Because they are not going to land an LTR with one and are delusional. Part of the reason is income standards. Most women want a man who makes more than them. Well the economy is in many ways a zero sum game. We live in a world more defined by limitations and binary choices than self hel… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 09:04 PM |
| 1 | You wouldn't have more luck in the dating markets of the pastSure it does, because you’re acting as if men are at fault for what women wanted. They wanted men’s jobs given to them and they got it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 08:39 PM |
| 1 | You wouldn't have more luck in the dating markets of the pastWhich is because women demanded equal rights in the workforce. Now they’re complaining that men don’t make any money. This is what they wanted. They wanted men’s jobs given to them and they got it. 🤷♂️ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 07:53 PM |
| 2 | Men, would you date an obese woman if you loved her personality?That’s fair, but it only proves my point. You don’t have friends of the opposite sex without an ulterior motive of a possible romantic interest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 05:22 PM |
| 15 | Men, would you date an obese woman if you loved her personality?It’s almost like you don’t view them as friends but potential love interests. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 12:44 AM |
| 1 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenBut it still indicates that women operate under a double standard. They want men to play traditional male roles while they do not want to play traditional female roles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 09:01 PM |
| 1 | most women want to be freed of all traditional female gender roles, but they want men to conform to male gender roles that benefit women, and abandon male gender roles that harm womenNot true, every single bit of available data on the subject indicates women prefer men who make more money than they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/06/24 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.My current girlfriend is 2 years younger than me. I’ve never dated anyone more than 5 years younger than me. That’s kind of the limit. Wouldn’t want to date any younger than that. Doubt those women would be interested anyways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 03:03 PM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Right, but choosing the losers in society because they are thought of as sexy and exciting is what leads to absentee fathers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 04:16 AM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.It’s a combination of both trends that are negative for society. Women choosing the wrong partners, then the taxpayers need to foot the bill and they have worse outcomes like prison. And also declining birth rates, I have explained like 3 times why that’s not a good thing. You seem to be ignoring it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 03:54 AM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Right, but women are becoming single mothers because the men they think are sexy and exciting are actually losers. Responsible, decent men tend to be seen as boring if they’re not rich or highly attractive. Again, when this becomes a widespread social pattern you start to see the fabric of communities start to erode away. Fewer families and newer generations. That is a problem for society. We rely on new generations coming up to pay for things and keep society improving. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.The family structure itself is part of the very fabric of American society. It’s a huge part of what made the country so successful. It’s how we perpetuate productive citizens and high standards of living and quality of life. Single mothers for example raise children that are many times more likely to end up in prison than those that come from intact traditional family structures. You’re really trying to make the argument that it just doesn’t matter, but it does. Low birth rates and single mothe… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 03:27 AM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.It is a societal issue, because the breakdown of the family structure in communities and the nation is damaging. It runs counter to all kinds of social objectives. There’s really no way to make the argument that it doesn’t matter just because you don’t like it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 02:44 AM |
| 2 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I'm glad I have a good thing going with my girlfriend. If it doesn't work out I don't think I would bother dating again in this new environment. It's just not worth the time. I lucked out and met someone in a work related event for charity and we just clicked. She didn't pull this BS on a first date. We kept everything pretty chill at the start of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 12:32 AM |
| 2 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.First dates should never be an interrogation. It’s entitled behavior. Like some of these women didn’t bring much to the table. Don’t know why they thought I should really be proving myself like it’s a job interview with behavior questions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I just don’t think it needs to be like an interrogation on the first date. It’s really off putting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 10:53 PM |
| 2 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I completely agree, you're correct that it's also that men are less marriageable because of neoliberal market fundamentalist policies that aim to create a market society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 10:46 PM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Yeah, I remember thinking it was an awesome invention. Now I think it's kinda crazy and it's created a really bad dynamic between men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 10:26 PM |
| 2 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I live in the upper midwest, major metro area. I remember it well because I actually met one of my LTRs on an early dating website that year. But I remember how other people reacted when I said I used one and I remember that we didn't want to tell anyone we met that way because it was so looked down on. We pretended we met at a public place and I approached her LOL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 10:06 PM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.15 years ago was 2009. I was 23. I remember online dating being really looked down on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 10:00 PM |
| 3 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Good luck, most men are going to be put off by that. It's not pleasant to be talking about your exes when you're on a date with someone new. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Did he lie to you? Or does he work at a financial company in a call center? Some of the people at my company in the call centers make $80k. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Asking people about their previous relationship history isn't just basic demographic data. It's something people don't talk about with strangers. I have no problem talking about it, but not until I feel like there's going to be more than 1-2 dates. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 08:59 PM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I mean I don't even use TikTok, but I've seen the videos floating around in other places. It's really sad, women don't know what they have until they leave it behind for greener grass on the other side and find out it's not very green. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 08:43 PM |
| 3 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I mean how many videos do you see on TikTok about this stuff. Women are doing this and it's becoming a lot more common. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I'm sorry but it's rude to ask about that kind of stuff before getting to know someone. Also, women will absolutely go for guys who want to hookup, if they didn't men wouldn't be doing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 07:01 PM |
| 2 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Right, but what we're seeing is the breakdown of the family. Most people are average. They don't make a ton of money or have movie star looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.So what? Some people in call centers can make decent money. Why are you above dating them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 06:58 PM |
| 2 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Exactly, all that stuff was in its infancy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 06:35 PM |
| 2 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.It's more of a problem for society. The family is the cornerstone of American society. It's part of what made the country the best place to live in the world. On top of that, when the baby daddy doesn't have money, the taxpayer foots the bill for everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 06:00 PM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I guess I haven't read enough of the comments here to make that judgment. But if that's the case, it's really stupid and immature. Like get real. I'm from the midwest, silly to want that for a grown man, at least where I come from. I'll admit I did some of that in my youth, but it was dumb and IMO not something I am proud of or should be proud of. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 05:48 PM |
| 3 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Nah, I don't see women putting up with a lot from ugly dudes. Maybe it happens but it's not as common these days. Women will divorce their husbands in their 30's now because they're on TikTok and other social media and they think they can do so much better. Then they end up regretting it when they find out they can't get a commitment from the men they thought they would be eligible for. Even if they're still hot enough to get a date, or a hookup from one of these top guys, they're not getting th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 05:07 PM |
| 2 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Read the OP, I said fishing or outright asking, because I've experienced both. And fishing means I tell you, I work at a financial company and you proceed to give me the third degree about what my actual job is presumably so you can try to figure out exactly what that dollar figure is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 04:23 PM |
| 7 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.How about, "How much money do you make?" on the first date? You don't think that's rude? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 04:10 PM |
| 3 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I don't buy it, most women seem to put up with a lot from men they really want. Like they'll stay in a situationship for years on end waiting for him to commit while he fucks other women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 04:04 PM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.But there’s also just a vibe of like “you are so lucky to have a date with me, kiss my ass as much as possible”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:03 PM |
| 3 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.The issue is that women are becoming single moms or alone because the men they think are sexy and exciting are actually losers. Those men that are responsible, reliable, and conscientious are boring, if they don’t have movie star looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 02:58 PM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I feel like these are things that should come up after a few dates once you start making a connection and it looks like it might go further. I don’t want to be asked about when my last relationship ended, why did it end, ect. On a first or second date. I really don’t want to be asked a direct question about my annual income. That’s insane, can’t believe people would be that rude. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 02:51 PM |
| 2 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.But even if I was that age now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 02:10 PM |
| 2 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I’m just very average looking. People say I look generic. My girlfriend says I’m a very plain midwestern guy. Now since dating is all online I probably wouldn’t be able to date the women I did in my youth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 01:59 PM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Glad I have a girlfriend now for just over 2 years. We have a lot of fun together and I really care about her. But should it not work out, I won’t bother again in this environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 01:52 PM |
| 6 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.It was also scoffed at socially. It was considered to be for nerds and the socially stunted. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 01:48 PM |
| 7 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I mean, it is true that the effort makes a difference. Went on dates with women who would be hotter if they did more in terms of makeup, hair, skin. It’s like a house, curb appeal is surface level but it does make a difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 01:26 PM |
| 5 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Nah, I was 23 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 04:13 AM |
| 2 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.That study is flawed nonsense, much more data supports the idea of married people being happier. Read the critiques of it. It’s based on unclear questions and even then the numbers aren’t strong enough to be convincing. It fit a narrative some people like. So it’s been bandied about | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:47 AM |
| 3 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Maybe not, but arguing that it’s good or makes no difference is wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:43 AM |
| 3 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Most evidence shows married people are happier. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:42 AM |
| 2 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Tons of evidence shows this social pattern makes everyone more miserable. If you are waiting for brad pitt to sweep you off your feet and you wait forever, you’re harming yourself on an individual level. When it becomes a widespread social pattern it then starts to undermine the fabric of society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:40 AM |
| 20 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Lol if I were a young man now I doubt I would get any dates | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:37 AM |
| 0 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I remember when we thought the flying cars would be in the year 2000 lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:36 AM |
| 0 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.That’s certainly part of it, but not all of it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:32 AM |
| 5 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.It was a better time. The Great Recession was a punch in the face. But the parties, the social life, the dating. It all seems so much better than this screen addicted life people are living now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:29 AM |
| 0 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.You honestly think it’s healthy for women to have unrealistic expectations and spend their lives alone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:20 AM |
| 3 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.True, but I mean above average men always have been swimming in attention from women. That was never me. But nevertheless i get your point, anecdotes aren’t enough to judge things on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:16 AM |
| 4 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Feminism has gone way too far lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:13 AM |
| 4 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I’m saying it’s not good for women to be doing this, your snarky comment doesn’t make that untrue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:12 AM |
| 7 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.But it seems like it wasn’t like this for me when I was younger. Could always get dates. I am average looking. If I was that age now I feel like I wouldn’t get any dates in this current era. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:09 AM |
| -2 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.It’s bad because those women will be less happy, despite that dumb flawed study being peddled by the media. It’s bad because families are the cornerstone of American life and culture. It’s bad because birth rate declines in communities is destructive of the American way of life. You can say that all these things just don’t matter because you don’t like them, but these things are part of the fabric if American life and what made it the best place in the world to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:07 AM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Yeah, I mean limited use for a few things is probably fine. But try to get it down to a few times per week. You’ll feel better overall | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:05 AM |
| 0 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.It’s a negatively driven social pattern for women to be wanting to date above their league and staying single when they can’t get commitment from those guys. It’s bad in so many ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:03 AM |
| 0 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Which highlights my point, in the late 2000’s and early 2010’s when i was that age I found it relatively easy to get dates with women I felt were on my level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 03:00 AM |
| 2 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Most regular guys just want a girlfriend and eventually a wife. It’s only the guys with a lot of options who want to play around | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 02:57 AM |
| 8 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Right but younger men are also struggling to find dates with women they feel are on their level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 02:53 AM |
| 1 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I mostly stay off social media. I think it’s really creepy. It makes people more narcissistic. Keeping up withe the Jones’ 200X | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 02:52 AM |
| 3 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.Dating was just a whole different vibe back then. You didn’t have these dating apps and widespread proliferation of social media. Tons of research shows women only see a small number if men as attractive and only swipe them. While men have a lot more flexibility as far as attractiveness preferences. So younger men are having the same issues. Issues that I didn’t have when I was that age. I found it far easier to get a date with someone I felt was on my level than most younger men feel today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 02:46 AM |
| 8 | Maybe this has been said in here before, but one thing I think is overlooked. Women were not like this 15 years ago.I think it causes women to think they’re hotter than they are. They post a cleavage shot on instagram or twitter and 100 dudes are drooling over it. Like so what you have boobs lol | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.Idk, you use to be able to find sweet down to earth average looking women. Now that’s rare. Most are use to social media and dating apps and are arrogant and annoying | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 01:51 AM |
| 1 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.It’s definitely changed, 15 years ago before social media and dating apps being the norm, average women were not like this. They are now hyper selective and there will be a generation of women who sat around waiting for a 10/10 man to wife them and end up single cat ladies. We’re already seeing it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 01:01 AM |
| 2 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.It's not true that women aren't complaining. They are on social media all the time whining about getting played by men. It's because they are punching above their weight, and as they age they are losing even the ability to be a booty call or a situationship. While the media has bandied about a ridiculously flawed study saying that single women are oh so happy, every other bit of evidence from the recent and distant past says otherwise. More people are staying single for longer, having fewer kids… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectationsI have a long term girlfriend lol I just feel sad for other men, and women tbh. Greater numbers of both are staying single for longer. Fewer families, stagnant birth rates. The breakdown of the institutions and social structures will lead to the breakdown of society. Which is also sad for the world because America is a beacon of hope and freedom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/03/24 04:14 PM |
| 4 | Daily Community Chat MegathreadI don't necessarily subscribe to all the red pill black pill ideology. I think it's flawed in many ways. But it certainly has a ring of truth to it. Especially when it comes to online dating. I cannot believe the endless numbers of TikToks of women crying over their "Situationships" A common comment is that ending the situationship was worse than ending a marriage of 5-10 or even 20 years! I mean shit like this always has happened, but even like 10-15 years ago it was nowhere near as pervasive. … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/02/24 05:23 AM |
| 2 | Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectationsThis is how societies collapse. Social institutions and structures that sustain them break down. I can guarantee the negative consequences for society will far outweigh any benefits. Although it may be true that there isn't much we can do about it at this point. I'm just saying you can't really argue that it's positive for society. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 07:32 AM |
| 1 | Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectationsRight, and women can't seem to learn the difference between willing to have sex with you a few times or be in a situationship or whatever, and actually wanting you. So they keep trying for the same out of reach men and keep complaining on TikTok about it LOL | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 07:27 AM |
| 1 | Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectationsLOL lots of women want men to follow their command too. I love my girlfriend, but I've had to learn to set boundaries with her and make it known that she's not going to order me around and that I'm not a servant. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 07:24 AM |
| 1 | Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectationsThe flip side for average women is, just like their male counterparts, larger numbers of them are staying single for longer and longer. The trend is upward each year. We are already seeing these women complain on social media that they can't find men in their 30's. Once they start to age a little bit, all that attention is gone. They can use filters and basically catfish but men aren't going to fall for that. They are going to bolt the moment they realize they've been had. It's going to be inter… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 07:18 AM |
| 1 | Women preferring to stay single because they don't feel attracted to average men says a lot about their unrealistic expectationshttps://youtu.be/2VgYsi2BJ9M?si=Jf4k0qwlflQD6qLb&t=33 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/02/24 02:23 AM |
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