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To the victor, the spoils. You can be a weak man and complain or be a strong man and smash puss on the reg. Your choices
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 06:39 PM
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True. Listened to NPR this week about a story where a woman struggling to get dates says “I shouldn’t have to choose between eating lunch that day and having a man” where the crowd applauded and went wild Imagine the reaction if a man said he shouldn’t need to get a job or wear nice clothes or go to the gym to get a woman. Would be bashed as an entitled incel loser Just got to deal with it OP and not give women the sympathy they so often beg for
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/19 05:20 PM
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Whatever helps you sleep at night
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 05:04 PM
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Being a jacked guy who can talk nerdy stuff is awesome. Basically winning on all fronts
/r/askTRP25/06/19 06:25 PM
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If a woman doesn’t want to sleep with you she won’t respect you
/r/askTRP25/06/19 06:24 PM
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Once you see it you can’t unsee it. You know what friends are alpha and betas with women. The ones that have to pay for sex with expensive cars, 60 hour work weeks, begging to get a beer with friends. While the others that maintain frame do what they want when they want
/r/askTRP25/06/19 06:23 PM
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How much women want to be told what to do, and how they defect to leadership/local alpha. Hypergamy can be outrageous when you keep your eye on it. Have seen women in a work setting go for the guy with the highest title, then in a coed sports team go for the guy who is playing QB and barking commands, and then at a bar go for the best looking guy. Their attraction can be incredibly situational. And how little women truly care about equality. Really is a watch what they do not what they say. Ever…
/r/askTRP25/06/19 01:40 PM
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Women would rather share an alpha than keep a beta
/r/RedPillWomen25/06/19 01:17 PM
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Hopefully get off reddit and get better looking
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 04:33 PM
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Been with a large number of women, most likely much better looking than yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/19 04:32 PM
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Was red pilled before her so already didn’t approach women with a unicorn lense, but she defied my expectations every step of the way. Our dates were so unique and original, we were so goofy together, and she just had this innocence to her. She wasn’t even the best looking woman I’ve been with, not by a long shot. But there was something about her laugh and smile I found incredibly endearing. And she made me want to be the best version of myself in a way that no one I’ve ever dated made me feel.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 11:37 PM
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Lol so not true. Do you even date?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 10:51 PM
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It’s not different for either gender. Only low value plebes assuming exclusivity after a date
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 10:51 PM
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Sarcasm? They actually are no joke
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 08:47 PM
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lol would love to compare our women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/19 08:47 PM
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Nah, yoga or workout class is a great date idea (assuming you’re in shape) for a new relationship or LTR. For a tinder slut or someone you’re trying to bang? No
/r/TheRedPill31/05/19 08:45 PM
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Also no girls use tinder today except sluts
/r/TheRedPill31/05/19 08:41 PM
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Lol dude after one date?? An online date no less?? You don’t know if you have a strong connection with someone that quickly But yea, she will fuck you over if a better option comes along. If a guy is better looking than you he can automatically become funnier, more interesting , etc
/r/TheRedPill31/05/19 08:41 PM
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Kick his ass or slave drive him. I know plenty of fat as fuck friends from working 70+ hours to get that next promotion so the wife can find a new way to spend money.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/19 08:38 PM
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She will destroy you socially: “Don’t go out with your friends, stay in with me” She will destroy you physically: “Babe let’s just order a pizza” “Don’t go to the gym, let’s watch Netflix” She will destroy you financially: “You never buy anything for yourself. Let’s just enjoy this”
/r/TheRedPill31/05/19 08:36 PM
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The above is true but an important caveat - only once a man is getting sex from a girl does he gain that power (unless he has abundance and then doesn’t care about sex from one broad) MOST men don’t gate keep sex or relationships, they are that thirsty. But the top men that women want absolutely have that power
/r/TheRedPill31/05/19 08:34 PM
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2 types of women get hysterical. The first is when a woman is trying to lock down a guy (not necessarily an alpha) who may have slept with her and is seriously out of her league The second, and most common, is when a woman is single over 30 and is full. Freak out. Mode.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/19 08:32 PM
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In this day and age if a person isn’t dating multiple people at least at the start then they are probably low SMV
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 10:42 PM
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It is very easy. Men in their 30s can get women 23 and up pretty easily. Remember, women date older - men date younger. For every year a man ages so his dating pool grows and the woman’s shrinks
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/19 09:20 PM
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Weirdos and low smv people calling each other normal lol love it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:34 AM
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This is undeniably true, on average. And also people that have no sense of humor. Go to something like the misc section of the bodybuilding forum to see higher smv people who just shoot the shit and have fun (also incels there too tho) It is evident to anyone with social experience that dating subs here, ask men, ask women, etc are VERY low smv people. Those who aren’t masculine or feminine. I like reddit for its purpose but yea, y’all losers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:32 AM
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What hurts the 32 year old is that her process of quickly vetting is necessary but will also turnoff most guys. Similar to a guy being insecure about his relationship with a girl and texting too much or giving too much comfort, the harder you try to grab something the more likely it will slip from your fingers
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/19 11:25 AM
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Absolutely. Can’t blame him, there is comfort in the lie. Religion is absolutely a blue pill in itself
/r/TheRedPill28/05/19 11:58 PM
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Nope, sorry - not true. AWALT was one of the pieces of the red pill I had the most trouble accepting until I experienced it first hand All women have the same desires and inclinations. The same triggers and behavior attracts them, and in the right scenario they will behave similarly.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/19 07:14 PM
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Not hard to follow
/r/PurplePillDebate26/05/19 01:05 AM
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The white thing is fine but kind of comical when you look at Star Wars and the heroes are a mosaic of characters and the villains are all white men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 08:06 PM
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Doesn’t matter. We are talking about the character, not the actor
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 07:30 PM
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This is a pathetic attempt at socialist diatribe. No one with half a brain truly expects some nurturing relationship from their employer. Of course if you don’t produce value you are canned, it’s a fucking business. And of course you only get a small piece of the output as income - that’s the trade off you make and accept when deciding to be an employee. In return you gain exposure to skills that develop you as a professional You want more money? Then own the actual capital and take the risk. Yo…
/r/TheRedPill24/05/19 04:46 PM
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Yea lol kylo ren in terms of size and muscle would be in the top 1-3 percentile in the US
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 02:29 PM
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Lmao Kylo Ren is anything but scrawny. That pic of him with his shirt off is more muscle mass than 95% of the male population
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 02:28 PM
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There’s a caveat. Men want women who are into masculine things BUT STILL ARE FEMININE. They like sports, construction, video games - great but this is only a plus if they are attractive and not manly Similar for women. Guys can be into feminine things as well, but for it to get them a pass they need to be tall and strong and otherwise masculine
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 02:24 PM
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Yep. Guarantee you other men sniffed it out, and the women saw the warning signs, but hey that’s the price you pay chasing Chad
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/19 12:01 AM
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Yep, tough day at work? Who do you think the wife is more enthusiastically going to sleep with: The guy that said “boss chewed me out today, it wasn’t a tough one” Or the guy that says “boss and I butted heads today, but he will come around” Don’t even have to lie. Just don’t look weak.
/r/TheRedPill23/05/19 01:25 PM
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Learned this the hard way. Used to be fat and out of shape, not muscular and lean. Thought telling women this would be a positive but it’s just the opposite They want someone naturally good at everything
/r/TheRedPill23/05/19 01:19 PM
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OP is right. Example of this is if a girl sees you are muscular she will be turned on. If you tell her you go to the gym every day she will he turned off. She wants the fantasy that you are just this stud she came across
/r/TheRedPill23/05/19 01:16 PM
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What’s worked for me is find individual moments you can use to base these fantasies around. It is borderline impossible if not completely impossible to be this dream guy who does and has it all. But capitalizing on experiences will GO FAR. Ex: in a year you can go skydiving, take beginner lessons of outdoor rock climbing, road trip and hike/camp out some mountain, white water raft with friends, go ice fishing, take dance classes. Developing true proficiency at all of these is not going to happen…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/19 01:15 PM
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Feminist always. But her man must lead her, make more money than her, make decisions for her, and be able to physically protect her
/r/TheRedPill23/05/19 11:12 AM
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In her youth she’s a solid 5.5-6 by being thin and having an okayish face. In a city like New York that’s plenty of suitors Will she get commitment from 6’2 investment banker Ivy League Chad? No. Might get a fling with him though. That’s her problem, bet she turned down plenty of great dudes
/r/TheRedPill23/05/19 11:10 AM
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Anyone who’s dated has had bad dates that they could warn their friends about. But these are FEW and FAR between in terms of truly bad dates with toxic people. So either she is dating a ton of dead beats or (most likely) as you said if a date has a few awkward silences or the guy doesn’t make enough money she chalks him up as a weirdo to warn friends about Also pathetic how she mentions how much effort it takes when literally you have to just sit there. Lol Jesus
/r/TheRedPill23/05/19 11:07 AM
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A google spreadsheet of dates they make fun of? Worried about being approached at work by some ‘creep’? Lol if all you’re attracting is guys you consider low value then honey those guys aren’t lower value than you they are your value - and based on her picture it completely makes sense NYC is a terrible dating market for women? Huh, you’d think the most populous city in America with things to do at every block, people to meet, and ambition everywhere would be perfect for women. She’s right thoug…
/r/TheRedPill23/05/19 10:43 AM
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Only dating advice you should take is from men who have a proven dating track record with high tier women. Listening to advice from women, men, or god forbid reddit of all places will leave you screwed
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 01:26 PM
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Beautiful women know they are attractive - yes - but they also have NO IDEA how shitty the world is for the most part No one is ever mean to them. Making friends is easy. Being invited to things is easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/19 01:25 PM
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Lol no, that’s not reality
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 05:39 PM
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Lol what? Grinding is purely sexual
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 05:38 PM
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It entirely depends on the situation and feelings involved. Dance class? Completely fine. Mutual friend? Maybe fine. Intimately dancing one on one with a guy and talking the night away when there’s some baseline interest? Not fine. I still wouldn’t call it ‘cheating’ but definitely inappropriate relationship behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 05:37 PM
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Average guys ONLY can get laid via relationships where they command little power and are few and far between. So they usually marry one of the first 3 girls they date and sleep with Not a bad life tbh but not enviable either
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 04:12 PM
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Average man is maybe 3-5 sexual partners in a lifetime. Almost always through relationships, except for that one time at a college party or at a bar that he got lucky and still brags to his friends/tells stories about/ laughs about with buddies 10 years later Guy isn’t a complete loser but pretty forgettable. In a relationship with its ups and downs with another girl who is average
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/19 04:11 PM
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You still don’t want a gut. But agree overall. Women when it comes to men want size and status. Someone with a small gut can still be a big handsome protector Stomach is low on the list
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 06:05 PM
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Red pill long predates incels buddy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 05:26 PM
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That’s also the thing about red pill - most of the guys, myself included, wish it wasn’t the case
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 05:26 PM
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Red Pill advice is great to avoid oneitis. If you think every woman is attracted to you because of the calculated things you do (lift weights, be assertive, escalate, dread game - all in my experience sadly work btw) then you will lose a chance to build a personal, if partly imaginary, connection. If you date multiple women at once you will not really care for any that badly The thing is sometimes you actually want oneitis. It isn’t in itself a bad thing - falling in love and have someone love y…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/19 05:11 PM
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The entire point of the Red Pill is that dating and life isnt fair, but to make the most of your situation. ​ And it isnt a double standard if there is a TRUE reason for one gender having that standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 05:50 PM
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It’s not about what you want it’s about what you can get, those women know they have no chance with those kind of dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/19 02:00 AM
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Excelling at all 3 is extremely difficult, maybe a fraction of 1% can have this. Though one thing that is reachable for most men is to be top 20% in all. It’s better to be above average in all the above areas than great in one but absolutely terrible in others when it comes to getting women. I don’t have a six pack or a 300 pound bench but lift almost every day. I’m not a millionaire but have a comfortable living. I have confidence and self respect. Those 3 things make getting high tier women no…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 09:28 PM
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Abs are very low on the list. Below biceps, shoulder, and even forearms. Very few men possess enough size to be muscular while also having the body fat to have abs. It certainly helps, but is one of the most overrated aspects when it comes to looks That said, you don’t want a gut. Your chest should stick out further than your stomach.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/19 09:24 PM
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Fortunately most men aren’t put in the situation OP described
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 07:10 PM
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Silly silly OP. Women seek out only the top men, and to the top men you are disposable. Yes you can get commitment from most men, just not most men that women want
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 01:37 AM
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AWALT meaning all women wont be attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 12:48 AM
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It does. For men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 12:48 AM
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Can’t unwire biology
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 10:08 PM
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This is so fucking true. Look at pictures of people or celebrities in the real world and they are so normal. Even that behind the scene video Chris Pratt shot of the avengers cast made them all look like normal(ish) people
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 10:01 PM
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Yep. Even seen interviews from MMA fighters saying they back out in situations like that’s when people have challenged them. 3 people, even untrained, can hit a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 09:59 PM
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Welcome to life as a dude
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 09:57 PM
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Everything is driven by sex
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 09:50 PM
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lol at thinking a woman’s title gives her social status
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/19 09:31 PM
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Exactly this. People think “I’ve spent 3 years with him or her, don’t want it to be for nothing” when you have the rest of your life is just absurd thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 10:23 PM
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Men fuck women, women get fucked by men. Put yourself in a woman’s shoes and think of how you would view men knowing you’re the selector.
/r/TheRedPill15/05/19 07:24 PM
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It’s possible, but doubtful. A lot of those things contradict each other to anyone who has experience reading working out or slaying Reading requires being sedentary, especially at that volume 8 pack and a fit bod to bang that many women requires significant gym and diet time Meeting women to bang requires $$$ to go out, most likely consuming alcohol, etc These things all conflict with one another. Now is it possible? Absolutely. But I’m not buying it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 02:37 PM
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Exactly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 02:35 PM
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Assuming no periods of commitment though
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 02:16 AM
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So he is able to read that much, be fit enough to have an 8 pack, and social enough to bag that many women? Lol just lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/19 02:16 AM
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Stacies aren’t on reddit. They get 6 pack guys. Feminist fatties that can’t claim they aren’t into it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 09:33 PM
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Haha some of his were good. His “You think I’m hot” response would be perfect for a girl at a bar.
/r/TheRedPill14/05/19 09:30 PM
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A&A will never die even though I agree humor has evolved Though will say I have experienced it taken literally before and if they think you’re serious it will hurt you. But then again do you really want to be with a girl who can’t banter ?
/r/TheRedPill14/05/19 09:29 PM
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The only girls who aren’t into it are girls that can’t get it and rationalized to themselves that they don’t want it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 07:15 PM
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Lmao your experience is completely wrong. Super athletic guys get all the hot women assuming they aren’t grotesque (marathon runner, power lifter)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 05:43 PM
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Athletic stature does not equal alpha unless you’re in that field of expertise. All things equal a muscular but lean and tall look is alpha in the sexual marketplace. Being a long distance runner, a power lifter, a rock climber, etc will usually not help you here because those bodies aren’t ideal for attraction They will help compared to a couch potato schlub ie average American - but they certainly aren’t alpha in a pool of people
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 05:42 PM
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Close, but alpha transcends just hookups. It’s even more important in relationships. Betas get laid - the difference is they usually are the safe route who provide comfort in return for sex. Omegas are the ones who are completely helpless A beta in a relationship will do things like take his wife’s advice on what to wear, let her pick vacstion spots, play the “I don’t know what do you want for dinner” game to the point of resentment. This will hurt him in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 05:22 PM
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Absolutely. I will say there definitely can be overlap. Great well rounded men I know are capable in many areas and even in an area they aren’t they have a borderline confidence there that they will learn But like you said it’s situational and it’s relative. A rich man in a circle of other rich men can be poor
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 05:19 PM
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This is a theory I had before I even found the red pill. In any group an alpha always emerges, and it’s relative. Saw this firsthand when studying abroad with a group of more girls than guys. The few guys, despite being below average in looks, who made plans for the group and rose to the top of the hierarchy would get the attention and sex Similarly, the office is a good example. If you’re in an office of computer science folk then you just have to be decently muscular to get all the attention. …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 05:11 PM
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Experience leads to confidence, and diet and fitness can lead to alpha physicality. I was a huge loser in the dating marketplace growing up. I was tall, but otherwise too thin had no style, awkward, and didn’t work out. Because of this insecurity poured into other areas of life. I knew I was smart but wasn’t 100% sure on being capable. I was tired of this and did things to push my comfort zone. I joined a fraternity in college to strengthen social skills with men and women, I worked a lot on car…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 05:07 PM
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Women who say it think it’s what they want. They don’t know themselves as well as men (players) know them
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 05:02 PM
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If I had a dollar for every “I’m not that type of girl” after a one night stand lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 05:01 PM
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This precisely. Women are more social creatures and care about their social standing so they want to look like delicate little angels. Men are blunt but honest Men have NEVER told women that career makes them attractive. Women have told men plenty of times that it’s about personality, getting her flowers, equality, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 05:01 PM
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Sexiness does not build overtime
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/19 01:04 AM
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Nope. Listening to what women think they want when it comes to dating will screw both parties - and not in the way they are hoping for
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 11:31 PM
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Men don’t like or care for women in power because we aren’t biologically wired that way. We care for our own needs and don’t need someone to do so for us. Yes, ambition and intelligence is nice - but the thought of a woman providing additional security is laughable And women like power real or not. Women will think their manager is cute over a much better looking intern. I’ve seen women go after a guy once solely because he was the QB of their flag football team, so when they were in that settin…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 10:09 PM
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Easy. Listening to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 10:05 PM
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Could be friend group. Top males travel together for the most part. While every group has a hierarchy, not every group will have a distribution from alpha to omega - far from it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 12:32 AM
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Lmao at most men are having sex. Bud, in my big social circle we all have college degrees, decent jobs, and our own places (ie no omegas). The only ones that can have sex regularly outside a relationship are myself and other friends that fit the “top 20%” mold here of fit, tall, stylish, and personable Most guys get girlfriends at some point that’s true, but most don’t get casual sex especially not regularly. They might get the one or two hookups they will talk about with their friends 5 years f…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/19 12:30 AM
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Never being afraid to loser her is easier said than done, but the rest is true. The oxymoron is when you raise your status and internalize these concepts you dont truly fall in love with women anymore - at least not in the way you used to. ​ being able to stay attractive to other women and having options is critical. Not so you can go around committing affairs - but that you can continue to command respect and interest. Women want to fuck men who other women want to fuck, it's that simple. Every…
/r/TheRedPill11/05/19 10:13 PM
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No, the wall refers to a womans value/power in the dating marketplace greatly diminishing as they hit 30 for a number of reasons. They are against the clock to have kids, they start showing signs of ageing, men relatively start to gather resources to become more valuable It's possible for a woman to hit the wall and get lucky and score a great guy. But again - the silicon dating market is abnormal and absolutely NOTHING like New York where women outnumber men. If you are an aging average looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 04:07 PM
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Silicon Valley is one of the most one sided dating markets in the country, of course it doesn’t represent reality And party girls who smoke cigarettes, stay out late, don’t exercise, age terribly. That’s the wall for them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/19 01:37 PM
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Alpha by definition are abnormal and in the minority, so even in a group of pro athletes there will be betas. But it’s safe the assume that compared to other groups pro athletes have a ton more natural and learned alphas. Going from broke to rich is a red pill in itself if you’re perceptive.
/r/TheRedPill10/05/19 04:56 PM
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I highly doubt there are many, if any, true Stacies in this thread. Stacies in general do not use reddit, nor do they spend time debating gender stuff. I’m sure there are a small few out there but take anything you read with a grain of salt
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 03:48 PM
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I’m talking about as a man
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 03:47 PM
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Not all of us are willing to suck someone’s dick at the end of the night because they gave us $30 worth of liquor, honey
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 03:46 PM
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Just a hunch
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 03:46 PM
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Yep when you date around enough you realize that women respond to the same things. AWALT I guess. It makes meeting someone who breaks the mold kind of special
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 01:49 AM
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lmao no we dont. It's that cocktails are expensive so unless you REALLY connect with a girl or you are trying to bang her on the first date it is a waste of money
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 01:46 AM
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You should be putting effort into having a high SMV, not into dating. If you have a high SMV the second part becomes so much easier.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 01:45 AM
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Spotted the beta
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 01:40 AM
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lmao a redditor wouldnt know a thing about cringe. Your entire fucking life is cringeworthy
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 01:40 AM
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nah Incels are trash
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 01:39 AM
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lmao at someone like yourself calling yourself a chad
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/19 01:39 AM
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The trend around late 2000s is more around smart phones than website consolidation
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 05:45 PM
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Nah I’m good
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 02:18 PM
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Better than being ugly tho
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 02:17 PM
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tbh if you are a girl on reddit you are most likely pretty ugly. Which is a worse insult than all of the above. sry.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/19 01:45 AM
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Lmao I would love to compare broads mate. Wouldn’t give the women you’ve been with a second glance in all likelihood
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 11:45 PM
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Lmao surrrrre they did
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 05:47 PM
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Lmao no you autist if you have decent social skills you’ll never have to ask for consent, Christ
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 03:48 PM
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Lol nope. Ask and you will get nothing. Do women like to be asked for consent or asked to be kissed? No, it’s a turn off
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 03:47 PM
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Being married does not make someone quality lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 03:46 PM
1

Things like divorce are meaningless now. Used to ruin you socially
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 02:37 PM
5

Women want sex, but the threshold to turn them on has never been higher.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 02:36 PM
6

This article is proof of that. Says men are less socialized due to technology when if anything both genders would be impacted. Or that there is finally dating equality (whatever that means)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 02:32 PM
4

It’s absolutely true - and it’s never been better to be a top male with a backbone. The guys these articles describe are usually middle class white males who have been told they are the problem for everything in society their entire life so they put themselves in a cringeworthy role of going out of their way to not offend anyone. These are the guys that ask permission to kiss someone. That think wearing an indian costume on Halloween is some grave racist offense. That bring up gender and skin co…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/19 02:31 PM
5

I lose respect for a woman if she does that stuff to me without “earning it”. I.e. a first or second date
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 11:42 PM
0

Another thing to add - anal sex is not something you ask for, it’s something you take. Many women will like the assertiveness. If you ask they will always say no because in their mind for them to say yes makes them a slut. You don’t ask to have sex after a date do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 11:41 PM
1

Nope. High value means high standards. Non-high value people dont understand this
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 12:31 AM
1

Don’t know off top of head. Probably mid 20s or so. male
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/19 12:10 AM
1

hahahaha hurts to be low value dont it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/19 01:17 AM
1

lol sounds like someone has made some bad decisions
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 09:59 PM
4

Lol nope. You show me someone with nipple piercings or a face tattoo I’ll show you someone with issues
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 09:40 PM
6

When you say choose wisely what things would you do differently if you could go back in time and pick a spouse again? Did you ignore any red flags for your wife?
/r/TheRedPill04/05/19 04:34 PM
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Going to go against the Red Pill grain here but marriage is really the only viable solution if you want children. There are things you can do to prevent being screwed in divorce or dead bedroom, but you will always put yourself at risk going that route and that's the sacrifice/trade-off you must be ok making if you are willing to raise kids in as stable a household as possible. ​ ​ Yes you can have kids out of wedlock - that will put them at risk of development problems. Yes you can have kids wi…
/r/TheRedPill04/05/19 04:33 PM
1

Eh depends. Statements can make you seem like a try hard or expose your intent to insult them
/r/TheRedPill04/05/19 04:03 PM
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Except it’s true. Same with cigarettes. Doesn’t show long term thinking
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 04:01 PM
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Worth nothing women, in general, enjoy being degraded during it. If you are strong enough to pick a woman up while fucking her and bang her all over the room she will love this 10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/19 04:00 PM
5

Oh I have plenty of reason to not believe it. What women say and what they do when it comes to attraction are often at odds
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 08:46 PM
1

Another good out on that LTR situation is to ask the guy about his dating life out loud, in a genuinely curious way. If he answers about girls he is seeing, it may put a wedge between him and your LTR. If he says he isn’t seeing anyone in particular, it undermines his value. If he’s socially savvy enough he can get out of this but most aren’t
/r/TheRedPill03/05/19 08:44 PM
1

Lmao I don’t know what it is about military men but know plenty of fit ones with absolute cows for wives
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 06:17 PM
1

It’s better to be an ugly man but better to be a low value woman than a low value man.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 06:16 PM
1

Really is nuanced because it’s all about the individual. And just because a man is bottom 20% in looks doesn’t make him bottom 20% overall. For example a very attractive woman can have little personality or skills but still have a good livelihood with doing little work based on marrying the right man, attractive men don’t really have this option Since a woman’s value to society (fair or not) is greatly tied to looks, an ugly woman will be at the bottom of the totem pole and will have little agen…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 06:09 PM
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True. But there is no female equivalent to being a bottom 20% male. Absolutely none. look at the incel movement or the neck beards on 4chan. There isn’t a sizable female group that’s similar And that’s not a bad thing. Definitely not bragging for team penis here
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 03:45 PM
9

Betas don’t lay down the rules. Women do either explicitly or implied and betas follow for a pat on the head and once a month missionary sex
/r/TheRedPill03/05/19 02:10 PM
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Also look at her rationalizing this marriage as her being a victim. Pretty god damn sickening If you decide to go the marriage route (only reason to in my opinion is for kids) then make sure you are the best woman your man has ever had. Both physically, and from a personality standpoint. This becomes difficult the higher a woman’s N count so you can never know for sure, but I can’t imagine being married to someone who views you as a settle
/r/TheRedPill03/05/19 02:09 PM
7

Girls on average have no idea about not getting attention compared to guys. It’s not even remotely close
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 12:09 PM
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Yep. Women aren’t rubbing their hands together at 28 thinking “now is the time to find a beta schmuck to settle down with”. She just cares more about security, resources, and is willing to take someone making dad jokes with a little chub on him than the bad boy That being said, she may be attracted to the beta but not sexually attracted and not for long
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/19 12:06 PM
2

Multiple women and multiple types of women I would add. If you’re defensive against TRP you will think it only works on sluts/thots/bimbos who are damaged. When you actually apply it and see that it works on all women (smart, dumb, even feminists) it is eye opening
/r/TheRedPill02/05/19 06:23 PM
1

I’d say fetishizes sacrifice more than improvement.
/r/TheRedPill02/05/19 06:22 PM
1

Lol you have zero idea
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/19 12:00 AM
2

Lmao that’s every woman dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 05:47 PM
5

I’m not talking about myself, but problems majority of guys in relationships face. Non red pill guys that is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 04:04 PM
1

What they want by definition is something they can’t have
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 03:47 PM
1

Confident assertive women are NOT treated better by men. In fact most men dislike that behavior especially if it’s apparent that there is no real foundation for it. Attractive women are treated better by men
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 03:47 PM
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Women are much more socially savvy than men, on average, so agree with the premise The term hamstering though has always been cringe. It’s called rationalizing and both genders do it
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 03:45 PM
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When people complain about the myth of unconditional love it’s not them saying “I beat my wife now, or I cheated on her with 10 women, or I watch TV all day and don’t speak to her, why doesn’t she love me??” It’s “I lost my job for a month, now she won’t sleep with me”, “I opened up emotionally to her, no she respects me less”, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/19 01:34 PM
4

Hypergamy only wins if there are weakened social repercussions to being caught cheating or having that behavior. The left is trying to weaken those as much as possible
/r/TheRedPill30/04/19 07:18 PM
0

The fresh face of a man absolutely loses to a well defined and aged man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:27 PM
1

As a man you can be 30 and date anyone from 23-30 though, pretty big age range
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:26 PM
1

Self fulfilling prophecy. As they age they no longer are high value
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:26 PM
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Dude here in that age range. There are a lot of factors in play that make it accurate-ish, some that both pill colors can agree on One is that men typically date younger, and women date older. So as a man ages his dating pool of prospects will naturally increase. However this isn’t indefinite as you will reach an age where most desirable women are paired off and you are too old to date young. Yes a 40 year old can date a 25 year old BUT generally that girl will have issues of some kind and isn’t…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 04:24 PM
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lol you know nothing. The entire point of TRP is that women dont even know themselves. A man who knows how to sleep with many women know women far greater than they know themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 01:16 AM
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That's fair. I know women who are hard 4's out of 10 and have hundreds of matches like you said
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/19 01:15 AM
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Lol my sex life really upsets you, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 07:51 PM
1

This is a great point. Finding a date back in the day met a chance encounter or a friend setting you up. Now I can get a date with a college educated attractive girl in an hour from my toilet
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 05:49 PM
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The attractive asshole that you see in movies doesn’t exist. The vast majority people are self serving but decent, and if you’re good looking you have a wide longitude of what you can get away with
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 05:47 PM
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Offline I disagree. Online it’s absolutely true and for men too. Anyone that uses these apps, gets matches, and is honest with themselves can tell you that The good news though is that it’s easy to find your league and worth. The age old question of “am I attractive” can now be answered. The bad news is most men don’t like that answer
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 05:32 PM
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actually, wrong. As someone who works in statistics I’ve been with a large enough pool of women to derive a workable sample size from. My personal experience means something. An internet stranger putting their head in the sand means nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 04:22 PM
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I’d say it’s relevant, but maybe like 30% of the equation. If the girl is hot but is trashy, didn’t go to college, etc then most guys won’t envy having her
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 04:21 PM
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Completely wrong. If women took a logical approach - maybe. But as a man at 33 on average you’ll have more resources and status than a similar man at 25. Your looks won’t be as much different, and you can date down in age. So your relationship pool is absolutely huge
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 04:19 PM
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Body frame and mother test. What does her mom look like? What’s her body frame? You can pretty easily point out which girls are holding off weight but will naturally be bigger as they age
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 04:17 PM
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Trade up? Such a toxic way to look at that relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 04:16 PM
3

You haven’t been around enough women Men are more likely to judge a girls personality tbh ex she is a bitch or nags
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 04:15 PM
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Similar with men, if a guy can’t get girls he won’t be respected. If he can he will he looked up to
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 03:45 PM
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I’m guilty of the first. I have high standards and get upset when my friends settle
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 03:38 PM
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Maybe it’s just a form of protection? I’ve seen women shit on men for pretty shallow reasons such as “how does she date him, they are the same height!” Or “he’s so tiny” or “she would crush him”, while for men we are more personality based ex “dude his gf is such a bitch” Though we do acknowledge looks as well, but nothing as equivalent as the height thing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 03:38 PM
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case and point pete davidson
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 01:01 AM
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lololol that's one way to try to win an argument I guess. Deny deny deny?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/19 01:00 AM
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Doesn’t surprise me. Not sure your age but as you get older and more men’s bodies turn to shit you see this all the time. As one of two guys who lift in my social circle if at a cookout, bar, etc it’s not uncommon for friends wives to feel me up, sit on my lap, etc in front of their husbands
/r/TheRedPill28/04/19 10:29 PM
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Nope. Church girls, the cheerleader, career girls, sorority girls, models, doctors, smart girls, dumb girls, fucked em all, all the same The “RP only works on slutty dumb women” is false. Works on everyone
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 10:27 PM
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In this example i guarantee you, guaranfuckingtee you, a large part of her attraction to him is that he’s married. “I am so irresistible that this man would risk his entire life for me” is woman logic 101. I wouldn’t act like the AF in this scenario is some desirable spot to be in, and if you are a single bachelor at 35 it’s still going to be harder to have these affairs
/r/TheRedPill28/04/19 07:07 PM
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I doubt the man in this situation got fat or plays video games. But he probably did lose his edge, and the woman probably did keep pushing and pushing boundaries which he constantly gave in
/r/TheRedPill28/04/19 07:05 PM
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How do you usually meet these sloots? I feel women in relationships rarely go out as much and if there are with their girlfriends they don’t want to be seen as a whore in front of all of them
/r/TheRedPill28/04/19 07:04 PM
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Eh very close. As a guy who has slept with his fair share number of women they all respond to the same triggers
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 02:24 PM
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Lol girls don’t need social skills at all to get a guy
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 02:23 PM
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Most women that want children and are single in their late 20s or early 30s know the clock is ticking. It’s also the first time in their life they look in the mirror and realize they aren’t as hot as they once were. If you’re a desirable man at that age you know what I’m talking about Women have a 5 year window to find a husband and get married. I wouldn’t wish that pressure on anybody
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 02:22 PM
2

Most RPers were deceived by their mothers and not having a masculine presence in their formative years, not Disney movies
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 02:18 PM
2

As a man you are your weakest link. I know PLENTY of guys in the office who kick ass but as a result work late nights, weekends, neglect bodies, lose ability to have hobbies, etc. the problem is that to be a high achiever in one area (work, fitness, etc) it generally means sacrificing others. But you shouldn’t have a weak link anywhere. You should never have a guy, make below average money, have Netflix as your hobby. Sure you can be the alpha in the office but as soon as you walk out of that bu…
/r/TheRedPill28/04/19 12:34 AM
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Then why don’t rich women date hot but poor men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/19 12:19 AM
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Women have it easier in some aspects of dating* As a man in his late 20s you would not want to switch places with a woman I’ll tell you that
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:57 PM
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Women don’t date actively. They get attractive and let the men do all the work. Women have no idea what goes into dating
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:34 PM
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While I agree, every woman is a whore for the right guy, or men really different? When I’m with my bros we are all over the top in our behavior I.e. locker room talk. This is common with fraternities, sports teams, country clubs, and other male spaces. We jokingly say stuff that borders or is flat out racist, sexist, homophobic without meaning any of it If I’m with women or people I don’t know well this behavior clearly changes
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 10:33 PM
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China hammers a lot of this feminist and progressive shit out early, they are going to absolutely eat our lunch in the next few decades
/r/TheRedPill27/04/19 10:29 PM
1

Lmao you used tinder??? So you are trash rofl
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:24 PM
2

By who? Not the media, not academics. Certain circles yes but overall no. Women’s rights are en Vogue
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 04:19 PM
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Men are not allowed to complain without facing condemnation from society while women are. It’s why serious men’s issues are overlooked or laughed at. A woman can cry about how hard her life is and still want to be courted and valued by men. The inverse is not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/19 02:00 PM
4

Then you simply conquer a new world. If you reach the top of a profession or high enough where you’re satisfied, take up a new pursuit. Not to sound cliche but someone like joe Rogan has reached near the top of multiple persuits this way
/r/TheRedPill26/04/19 07:13 PM
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Lol I’m incredibly self aware bud. You don’t determine your dating value, the opposite sex does. When literally any girl you swipe right on is a match then you have standards that the majority of people on this board, yourself included, can’t even comprehend. Not afraid to open up but the girl that’s my match doesn’t come often.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 06:24 PM
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I’m not pro male. I’m not pro female. I’m pro me. Not going to spend time or social equity trying to change the rules of the game. I’m going to play the game and play it well
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 06:13 PM
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Lol life is pretty fantastic. It’s funny that people like you don’t even think a life like mine rotating high tier woman is possible though I was serious about my offer to help
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 05:19 PM
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Gay guys are very red pilled
/r/askTRP26/04/19 03:17 PM
4

Damn, dude is red pilled as fuck
/r/askTRP26/04/19 03:15 PM
1

Yep, just like my chubby friends say they HATE the beauty pageant look and like their girls a little thicker It’s cope because that’s the best they can get. No need to lie to yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 02:37 PM
1

Lol enjoy that dead bedroom dork
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 12:34 AM
1

Unicorns don’t exist buddy. I get what I need, but sure if that 10/10 exists I don’t mind wifing her up. But majority of the time I’m the one nexting her If this isnt your experience then sorry to hear it, that sucks. I can probably give you advice though. And don’t worry, if you have a gf I would next her too
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 12:04 AM
1

Not bragging. Sad you take it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 12:03 AM
1

Something funny?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/19 12:02 AM
1

Lol at a redditor trying to tell me what chad is
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:25 PM
1

In real life? No. For an online discussion board on the topic of dating? Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:23 PM
2

Short term yes, long term if she rejects my advances twice or 3 times after a couple of dates those feelings will change
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:23 PM
1

Fortunately not an issue. Never had problems getting commitment
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:22 PM
1

Yep, pretty much
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:21 PM
1

Never claimed it did
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:43 AM
2

Nah, plenty of girls on the side though
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:42 AM
1

So you lost your v card to trailer trash in high school and still date trash? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:41 AM
1

Want to say it? I did say it. Do something about it
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:40 AM
2

No lol just realize not everyone wants to talk about the same shit
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:40 AM
1

Have you seen this forum? Sweet life you have there bro
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:39 AM
1

Nah, it’s just how high tier guys talk. Only time there is ass hurt is from shmucks like yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:38 AM
1

No one thinks your short scrawny boyfriend is hot either
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:38 AM
1

Not at all. Only if she puts out extremely early (first date)
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:38 AM
7

Not true. High tier guy and guy looking only to sleep around are not the same High tier guys in general want relationships, they just have the backbone to not put up with any BS
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 10:37 AM
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Well duh welcome to the Red Pill. When women hear 'approached' they think of cat caller types and all the times they had some guy they didnt like hit on them. When this happens with a hot guy it isn't an 'approach' it's a 'it just happened'. 'We just happened to both be looking at asparagus'. ​ ​ Never listen to women on women. They have no idea what they are talking about. Listen to men you know who can pull attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:12 AM
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Fucking amen. Here is what happens, and I've seen this happen from attractive FEMINISTS countless times ​ Women give men advice on shedding toxic masculinity. Open up more, Be inclusive, Treat everyone 'equal'. Weak guys do that for their approval in hopes itll go somewhere (it doesnt) and get a new shoulder to cry on but will never get a relationship or sex with those women. ​ Then those very same women flock to the tall, muscular, witty, and chauvinist guy. I get this happening with most women…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:08 AM
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This is a good point. High tier guys can get a date with a 7+ literally every day of the week thanks to online dating. If you arent putting out then you are pretty disposable unless there is a strong connection there
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:04 AM
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treat the alpha like a beta long enough and he will go to any number of women. I am an alpha (when it comes to dating) and I dont mind waiting for sex, as I make girls I am really into wait and turn down ONS from chicks a decent amount if I dont really feel like it that night. But dont try to string me along because if I am single then you can bet your ass I am talking to and engaging with at the very least 3 other women at any given time and will drop you if I feel I am being used
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:02 AM
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I agree with this mostly. The AF/BB thing is true in some cases, but in most relationships the partners are about equal in what is brought to the table. If a girl meets a hot tall jacked dude with no prospects vs one who could also be a great dad, she will resist sex with the 2nd one EVEN IF ATTRACTION IS THE SAME ​ ​ Now the risk she runs is the man leaving, which does happen. Basically, if a woman can string along a guy without putting out for months then that guy likely has no options and is …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 02:00 AM
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fits my life experience* which I can at least validate unlike any claim here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 01:57 AM
1

lol kid you have no dating experience. Or else you wouldnt be spewing such idiotic opinions
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 01:38 AM
1

People lie to boost themselves up. No one lies the other direction. If you think someone is lying about not having sex with their wife then you can enjoy that beach house
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 01:37 AM
1

dead bedrooms is brought up pretty damn frequently here
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 01:29 AM
1

oh so a different opinion is a cop out?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 01:28 AM
2

Yep. People here are confusing settling with the best they can get with preference. I used to believe that until I became a “Chad” in looks. That nerdy girl isn’t into nerdy guys. She’s into me if I give her the time of day and feign interest in whatever she likes
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:33 AM
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Nope. Women don’t go after the same dude because they all can’t get the same dude, so they go the next rung down and so on. No one thinks fat bob is hot. It’s just that his wife couldn’t get anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:32 AM
2

The human brain has a weird way of working and knowing what league it’s in. The more attractive I’ve gotten throughout the years (gym, grooming, confidence, dressing better, income) the higher my standards are. Girls I used to crush on or even date are girls I wouldn’t even consider now.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:31 AM
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Lol as someone who used to be a nerd and now is jacked you couldn’t be more wrong. Church girls, milfs, hood girls, female doctor, yoga instructor, basically any type are into me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:27 AM
2

It’s called settling
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:26 AM
4

From an evolutionary standpoint a lot of women can give birth, only a few men can protect the pack
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/19 12:24 AM
1

aw someone is salty
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 10:19 PM
1

lmao so the answer is no - you have no experience dating in the big leagues. "shady shit". Lol just fucking lol
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 10:18 PM
9

pretty fucking on point response to that dunce
/r/TheRedPill24/04/19 10:08 PM
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Absolutely 100%. I interact weekly with hundreds if not thousands of people in some capacity. The odds of any interaction ever escalating to physical violence are remote. However, the implied threat is always there and people will treat you differently based on if you are beneath them, similar to them, or above them
/r/TheRedPill24/04/19 09:53 PM
1

Much easier to master game than master resources. Want a high smv? A fit body, form fitted shirt, and interesting personality will beat the dad bod in the rolex.
/r/TheRedPill24/04/19 09:50 PM
1

am i single? depends on who you ask ;) ​ ​ you are probably in high school or college. In the real world women are too busy to know if you are dating around
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 09:48 PM
1

fair enough. I wouldnt go as far as the above but am probably in the top 10-5% in terms of looks for men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 09:47 PM
1

lol i didnt say LTRs were different
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 09:46 PM
1

Sure it does. I’ve done that with girls before
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:19 PM
1

You lack dating experience lol Btw I’m not talking about sleeping around in an LTR. Just while vetting an LTR. I don’t condone cheating
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:18 PM
1

That’s fair. The 80/20 rule is about physical attraction, not ability to get relationships. So guys not in the top 20 but have relationships get there through money, resources, status, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:02 PM
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No I’m not. Believe it or not people go through different phases in life and a lot of context matters. Yes your wife, mother, girlfriend, whoever can still be LTR worthy but have fucked someone with hardly knowing them And there’s no way to know for sure without attempting. But you can use clues to guess. She has a tattoo and smokes? Likely a sloot. She wears a sweater on the first date? Less likely. Can never know for sure tho
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 08:01 PM
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He gets burned if he goes all in on one girl lol And no the girl won’t find out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:59 PM
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That’s the risk they run, and usually they will do stuff to make the guy know they are into him sexually. Btw when I say make him wait I usually mean 3-4 dates. No more than a month. There’s definitely beta game that takes longer. But if she wants to secure the alpha she will not sleep on the first date unless she just can’t resist the opp
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:35 PM
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The approach isn’t terrible at all. It maximizes everything for the guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:28 PM
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It’s so the guy respects them lol many dudes will not consider a girl for a relationship if she puts out on the first date
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:27 PM
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Single to my knowledge. And LTR material girls will absolutely hook up - depends on their stage of life
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:12 PM
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In his younger years he was attractive. Hot? No, attractive? Yes. Though will say looked like shit most of his adulthood
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:12 PM
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This is true, if a guy values that approach. Setting himself up to be burned though. I was that guy once. Not anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:11 PM
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Yea, basically. Sometimes not at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 07:04 PM
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Not really. It shows that men do it as well
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:55 PM
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You don’t know this type of man well. He ain’t breaking up with her
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:55 PM
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Again not true lol. If a woman sees a guy she wants to fuck but really wants to date she won’t put out early. If she sees a guy she wants to fuck but otherwise not date she will. It’s because men will value women less the earlier they put out Now yes some women will use sex as a leverage point, avoid these broads. Others just prefer getting to know someone who could have LTR value. Again, I do the same as a guy. If the girl seems my type for a relationship I don’t mind going slow. If she is sexy…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:55 PM
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Billionaire POTUS who has slept with more models than you’ve jerked off too in your $150k home. Yep, he’s an alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:40 PM
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lol no. Women will make an alpha wait to if she wants him as an LTR. The difference is the alpha can fuck other girls in the meantime
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:40 PM
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No it isn’t. There are tells that show a girl is LTR worthy or not. How she dresses, how she acts, how smart she is, this can be picked up often in a few minutes
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:39 PM
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Women won’t bang someone they don’t respect
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:38 PM
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Any and all leverage in a relationship if he currently is unhappy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:38 PM
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“If he breaks up” lol the spineless simp is done
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:26 PM
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You can pick up on it. Guys will say stuff like “women don’t put out once married” or “it’s my birthday you know what that means” And unless you’re obtuse you can tell just by watching them if their marriage is affectionate or not Granted my circle is a mix of MC and UMC and behavior does cjsnge
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 06:25 PM
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They’ll also make the hot stable guy wait. A girl making a guy wait for sex, assuming it’s only after a few dates, is NOT her saying that he is inferior. I do the same to woman I value more for relationships as well
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 05:28 PM
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Sad to hear but can validate with what I’ve seen. The amount of marriages I envy are the minority. You’re right about the duty sex. Like the “its my birthday so I’m getting a BJ!” Crowd is definitely a thing. A lot of these men spend hundreds if not thousands of dollars on gifts for their wives and usually get shit sex in return. I have a friend tell me he only has sex when the wife is drunk. Call me naive but I still think it’s avoidable. Just like some men can pull ONS but most can’t, some can…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 04:34 PM
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Do you have any close male friends? They talk about it all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 03:34 PM
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Really? Feel like kids would be the bigger switch
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 03:34 PM
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Sounds like he was speaking in generalities - which is definitely a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 03:33 PM
1

This is ridiculous. Alpha is not “just” a good looking guy. Trump is alpha. He isn’t good looking (at least not for the past 30 years) And you can also be an ugly duckling who turns into a swan. You don’t turn into an alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 02:57 PM
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Nah. RP myself. I would make sure my value never drops where she isn’t attracted to me (or other women aren’t attracted to me). If sex stopped I’d simply divorce. Only thing that’s would change this is children
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 02:20 PM
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This is what happens with many marriages. Maybe most. Couples resent each other and use things like that to make them hurt the other one
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 02:19 PM
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I will say the husband owes her not getting fat, not being a slob, not losing his job, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 02:15 PM
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Blue pill isn’t any ideology it’s more base state. That includes some equality stuff of the above but it isn’t being “aware” of how dating and sexual marketplace work
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 02:14 PM
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Yep. You have one life on this planet. “Enduring it” isn’t how you should live that life
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/19 02:13 PM
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The dumb joke thing set me back so many years. Fully believed in it until my 20s when I realized you can be smart AND built AND nice. It’s just assumed you will be a strong muscular asshole
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 09:42 PM
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Lmao plainly false
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 09:41 PM
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A big part of red pill is internalizing it. It takes time and experience but once it does it becomes instinct
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 09:41 PM
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I literally became an alpha in regards to dating thanks to the red pill so yes it’s possible. Most are born and moulded at youth through good parenting. Not intentionally to be an alpha but to be confident, self sufficient, healthy, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 09:40 PM
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Not even an MRA or MGTOW or any of that bs but I do think the pendulum will swing back once the damage being done to boys has been realized. Women’s rights are mainstream when 10-20 years ago being a feminist made you weird. I think men will start getting similar treatment as it becomes evident being born with a penis doesn’t make life perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 09:38 PM
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It does, but only if you have social equity. The social outcast in a group can stand up for his controversial beliefs but they will just further reinforce people’s negative feelings towards him
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 04:34 PM
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Lol wrong boyo
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/19 12:44 AM
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You can have all the frame in the world but if your social status is shit then girls (and guys) will have no issue trashing on your beliefs
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:15 PM
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Lol you’re so dumb. He’s not trying to get to scientific truth, he is an entertainer This is hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:45 PM
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Slut is an insult we use, prude is an insult we use. Find the balance women!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:44 PM
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Yep if you’re attractive stuff like negging or light sexist jokes will actually have women going crazy for you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:43 PM
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If you’re average you can be funny and get laughs but are seen more as a fun person to hang out with/clown than attractive Sense of humor is an interesting one. Being funny helps but I don’t personally think clown game does
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:42 PM
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Being masculine is reading commentary like this and laughing at its absurdity
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:12 AM
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He’s not a sell out. You’re just grasping at straws. Would a sell out have his most recent episode with Alex Jones? No. And he isn’t sponsored by mainstream brands Your analysis tbh is absolute trash commentary
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:11 AM
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Yea I’d say he is the perfect definition. Joe ain’t perfect, no one is, but he is open minded while not backing down from stances or caving into pressure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 03:09 AM
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Weak men enable these policies. It’s by no means better. If you follow Bernie Sanders you are weak, period
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 10:54 PM
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This exactly. Take the average male college experience. The top 20% that had multiple sexual partners were athletes or men in good fraternities. If you weren’t then your only chance was a random hookup you brag about 10 years later or a girlfriend. You could drink in the dorm, maybe host a party that sucks, go to concert, etc Meanwhile if you’re a woman you already have social value. You can get in nearly everywhere and hop on a decent dick at the end of the night. Not all girls had that experie…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 10:53 PM
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Being masculine is being confident, self reliant, strong, and assertive - and sticking to your definition when current society will call that sexist
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:37 PM
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There’s evolutionary research on this. Men care about moving the tribe forward. Women care about making sure no one is left behind. Scary to think what happens when weak men will put women in charge. Already seeing this nonsense with open border type policies
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/19 07:33 PM
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You really think neck beards post here? Lol on the rest of reddit maybe
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/19 12:20 PM
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Men’s looks will never average out. I’ve seen this play out millions of times. Women want men near the top of the hierarchy. If every man was thin and fit there would still be a top percentage
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 09:52 PM
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Lol crying? Keep living that fantasy out uggo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 03:46 PM
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If only
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 03:28 PM
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Lol sweetie - if you can’t handle straight talk this isn’t the place for you
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 03:28 PM
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I’m sure a good deal of people find your existence cringey
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 02:49 AM
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Tbh I got that feeling too. Like walking around the office and not sure if she’d randomly pop out and if she did how you’d play it cool so others didn’t think something was up A lot of overthinking over here
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/19 02:47 AM
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Agree. Being 6’+ helps but women just want a man taller than them + heels
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 10:27 PM
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Yep. At least if done right, usually on here it’s more dickish stuff (you’re a preschool teacher? Get a real job) type crap Teasing is something both genders love and should engage in (you like Harry Potter? You’re such a nerd!)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:49 PM
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I mean those things are also indicators of a date going well. Light contact is a good sign. Casual negging is called flirting and banter. Storytelling is just bolstering I really doubt all these men used PUA techniques, it’s not that wide spread. It’s just called dating
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:47 PM
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Need diet too tho
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:44 PM
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Any guy within 2 years of consistent training can get to a 1000 pound big 3 lift total. I’d say that’s greater than 98% of male population
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:43 PM
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If you want to be coddled go somewhere else’s
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:41 PM
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That’s a ridiculous comparison
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:40 PM
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No, but men still defer to it. As someone who was weak and got pretty muscular - knowing you could win a fight against anyone in the bar is a pretty big deal. Though it will not be used it still is a way for women to be attracted to you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:40 PM
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The thing is guys that CAN fight often don’t look like they can. Boxers and martial artists are often very low body fat % and under clothes can look like dweebs. Better to have size and tone than anything
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:39 PM
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Not really. Tits and ass is mostly made up. A woman’s looks are entirely dependent on if she’s thin and if her face is attractive, with everything else being peeks. A woman can have no ass and no boobs and still have a ridiculously high smv. A short thin or fat dude literally can’t
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 09:37 PM
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yea this dude is probably annoying as fuck to be around. ​ ​ Girls tease guys, guys tease girls. Fuckin A
/r/TheRedPill18/04/19 12:59 AM
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dude it's called banter, learn it
/r/TheRedPill18/04/19 12:58 AM
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yep. As soon as the number of people in the office you have dated exceeds 1 you enter whore status in the eyes of gossipers
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 12:47 AM
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Dude my story was similar. Had a 'no coworker' rule which I was adamant about following. I've had maybe a dozen or so coworkers show interest to me but had enough options elsewhere to not pursue any of them. But then fell for a girl and really thought she had 'the one' potential (and I go through a decent number of women so it's a rare feeling). ​ Didnt work out long term and for a few months it was very tough seeing her with other men at the office, flirting, etc. Good gym fuel I guess, got ove…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 12:47 AM
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Sure did. And seeing a girl you are seeing and intimate with while having to behave differently in a work environment is just weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 12:25 AM
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just give the broad term of marketing. Office is full of soy boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/19 12:24 AM
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Blue pill thinking. Women generally go after the same small subset of men. Women want who other women want. High value Women wanting a guy that others don’t care for is exceptionally rare Now with Jim and Pam specifically it makes sense. He’s the best looking guy in the office easily. There really aren’t other young people around. In a town like Scranton he’s probably a catch But the lessons it teaches to its viewers (the male ones) on romance will only hurt them in the end. Have seen it play ou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 04:16 PM
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I’m “the hot guy in the office” along with 1 or 2 others Never believed in work relationships. It’s easy enough to meet women outside work so I keep that life separate despite having a woman ask me out or make a move on me maybe once every month or so. Did comepltely fall for a girl at work that made me break the rule. We dated very briefly and it didn’t work out. Tbh in my opinion it’s more awkward seeing someone in the office you’re currently dating than someone you’ve been broken up with. Dou…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 11:22 AM
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Do people go from friends to a couple? Sure, happens all the time. Does Jim’s beta game work in real life? Lol no. Watching their relationship is pretty cringe worthy and is definitely blue pill Heroin for men not good with women out there
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/19 11:15 AM
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You haven’t seen a man lose his shit if you think that’s what this is
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 11:04 PM
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Nope. I used to do and lead boot camp classes on the reg. I could do 100 continuos pushups, but I wasn’t big and could barely bench 200. It helps with endurance and some strength if you’re untrained, but unless you really really know what you’re doing you ain’t building muscle that way
/r/TheRedPill15/04/19 02:48 PM
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8 is the sweet spot for me. I personally think 5 is too few, as a lot of people will sacrifice form if they can only get 5 reps off.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/19 02:46 PM
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It’s good for endurance type training or if you want to be good at random shit like obstacle course races but yea for strength or mass it sucks
/r/TheRedPill15/04/19 02:43 PM
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Not for me but I do agree higher reps is better than 5x5 of whatever bullshit. This routine won’t add mass or strength. If you’re looking to cut or build endurance sure, but most here aren’t. If you’re looking to get a good aesthetic and you are rail thin then this won’t help. If you’re big maybe This reminds me of all the idiots touting 5x5s strong lifts and end up looking like morons after the program. Stronger, sure, but not better looking
/r/TheRedPill15/04/19 02:43 PM
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Yes you absolutely do - with a caveat. You can get a girl or have a decent sex life (0-5 partners in your lifetime, relationship with a high quality girl) and not have a clue what game is. But to be a Casanova slayer you absolutely need game OR be a 10/10 (jacked athlete with model face). That doesn’t mean you read books on game or join the pickup community, far from it. It just means you know how to escalate, how to tease, how to approach, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/19 12:50 AM
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I'm very familiar with MBTI you fedora tipping dweeb
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 09:35 PM
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I agree on socialize, but lifting is still big. I’ve been skinny, I’ve been muscular. The difference is night and day in terms of attraction BUT venture to the body building forums and you will see people who look like Greek gods complain about not getting a date, and will realize something is wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/19 05:27 PM
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Lol so not true. People that are more outgoing, charismatic, And put themselves in social situations naturally will have more dating opportunities. That isn’t to say introverts can’t be successful, but at a net it’s a disadvantage. Someone sounds like a introvert with hurt feelings projecting their insecurities though. I’d work on that first.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/19 03:44 PM
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Can age* like wine. Most don’t
/r/TheRedPill12/04/19 02:53 AM
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You really are upset you can’t get laid aren’t you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:47 PM
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No. I know damn well what an introvert is. You’re making a whole lot of assumptions though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 11:47 PM
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Eh doubt it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 03:42 AM
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You’re projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:38 AM
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Lol ok lad
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:36 AM
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I’m not confusing the two. Learn to read.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/19 01:35 AM
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And she’s yet to get commitment from a guy she likes. So she still might misread her worth
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 03:44 PM
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No it isn’t. Those traits mean little to men. The same for her is if she was a Dallas cowboys cheerleader
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 03:43 PM
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In an ideal blue pill world, yes. In the real world - no. We are alone, and no relationship lasts forever
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 03:43 PM
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Bang women and have fun while seeing if one is worthy of a LTR. Pretty straightforward
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 03:42 PM
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No. Ugly but confident doesn’t make one an alpha male. Alpha male is your place in the hierarchy, that both men and women place you there. You can be alpha over yourself which is attractive, but your status overall is a factor. Your looks and build play a part in this. It’s rare you see a short fat ugly guy command respect in a setting conducive to lust (outside the workplace). But this guy will beat the good looking introvert
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 03:41 PM
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I take long term commitment very seriously. Looks is table stakes. But over time to our hobbies mesh, are they financially independent, are they religious? (I’m not things have ended a few times on their terms because of this), etc Usually the women I get in relationships with are high achievers themselves and end up moving cities or states. As is life friend
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 02:18 AM
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Believe it or not there is more to women and personalities than “hot”, especially if you’re talking a forever commitment. I know exactly what I want. Most men have a 10th of the experience I do and marry some loser. They don’t know a damn thing about themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 02:17 AM
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That’s where you’re wrong sister. I stay for the great ones and leave the good ones behind.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 02:15 AM
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Then why do they continue to see me?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 02:15 AM
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Good thing about being a guy. For LTRs we have no hard income requirements and no height requirements
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 02:13 AM
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As the type of guy she wants (high value: makes good money, tall, athletic, charismatic, full head of hair) we have options too. Hundreds in fact, all from girls as pretty and educated as she is. So if I’m on a date and she shows any inclination towards something that may be incompatible it’s an easy next.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 02:10 AM
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Not handle what it takes lmao. More like she’s not worth the value she’s expecting, period. That’s how dating works.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 02:06 AM
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Lol a tenant of red pill is that you can’t wallet your way into turning a woman on. Also, this was a date for LTR situation and not a potential hookup This does nothing to prove TRP wrong except that women like money
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/19 02:05 AM
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Nah. Try doctors, corporate lawyers, good state schools and up, former college cheerleaders / dance team members, models, But again - tell yourself whatever you want. Most people find it easier to do that than confront reality
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 03:33 PM
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LMAO what? Nowhere did I say that? Most of the women I go out with are great, just have a few things keeping me from wanting to commit. It’s the benefit of having options. I wouldn’t be happy with 90% of my friends wives and girlfriends
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 03:31 PM
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What are you talking about? I specifically avoid those types of women as do most men that have options
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:34 PM
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Whatever you want to tell yourself buddy lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 02:33 PM
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Nope. All college educated, fit, career type women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:51 PM
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Time enjoyed is never wasted lad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:51 PM
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It’s not contradictory. Of the high number of women I’ve been with a few reach relationship material threshold. But then again I’m a very high value guy and speak from a position most on this sub aren’t familiar with
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:50 PM
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Nope. The vast majority of those women don’t cut it. The ones that do stick out
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:48 PM
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Women don’t know about the others lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:48 PM
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I have a positive outlook on life. Not going to let someone with a loser mentality drag me down or hold me back in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/19 01:47 PM
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As a high value dude: Women, we admire your intelligence and career accomplishments. But unlike women it’s not a main driver of attraction. Being feminine, complimenting a guy, laughing at his jokes (this shouldn’t be forced, don’t date an unfunny shmuck), and being enthusiastic about dates speaks volumes. I go through 20-30 women a year (sick I know) the ones that stick out do things like planned cute dates such as a picnic in the park, or left notes for me to find around the house. Being a par…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/19 12:06 PM
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Status is for both. Go to a frat party. Take a buff guy and a dweeb, tell girls the buff dude is a pledge and the dweeb is the president. The dweeb will get the puss, seen it many times lol
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:31 PM
2

Look to the manosphere to see those development issues
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 07:30 PM
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It reads as something novel when you are a teenager but as you get older is just stupid
/r/TheRedPill07/04/19 04:11 PM
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Agree with almost all your scoring. Key with this stuff, and flirting in general, is to remain aloof/cocky/fun. Nothing should shake you. Getting in the dirt or defensive will make you look like a twat
/r/TheRedPill07/04/19 04:11 PM
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If you put him down it will be her psychological imperative to defend him and thus put you in a bad spot
/r/TheRedPill07/04/19 04:08 PM
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lol this is kid game. At a certain point, if your value is high enough, you would rather deal with a woman who is into you than jump around shit tests like a circus animal. IHAB should be treated with a similar put back (ex: "whoa! You think I was flirting with you? Why did your mind instantly go there" with a shit eating grin) over a lame "sorry" and walk away. But if you are spinning your tires in the mud on this one it's just a waste of time ​ ​ Believe it or not TRP not every woman is a chea…
/r/TheRedPill07/04/19 04:07 PM
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No. But know what works with women and what doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 03:06 PM
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This post sucks. The linebacker football type is NOT in demand
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 01:56 PM
1

Lol not true. Status wins, always. The term dad bod originated from college due to girls wanting chubby high status frat guys. Looks and build mean little compared to social status
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/19 01:55 PM
3

By definition it’s impossible for every male or even a large minority to be alphas
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 06:32 PM
1

Have you seen free solo? Alex Honnold and people like him is an example of a sigma male. These people generally don’t even care too much about sex or position and society and instead follow something else (music, art, etc)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 06:29 PM
1

Alpha beta isn’t all about sex and pertains to how men treat each other too
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 06:27 PM
1

I like this. Alpha is certainly nuanced/conditional, and not always sexual. Yes in the office the CEO will be considered more attractive than a middle manager even if looks are same. But women aren’t lusting for the old fat ceo. They usually though like the hot guy who has a position higher than them. There are certainly men confident and capable across multiple areas, or those who are comfortable even when they suck at something, but the top dog in the room is something everyone realizes
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 06:05 PM
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Haha I definitely doubt I have the highest n count on this thread, I’ve had my fair share of one night stands but I’m not an active bar goer (alcohol and late nights are detrimental to fitness ;). ) and HATE the club scene. And my face alone is hardly model worthy. Just being built strong and height helps. Kind of have a John Krasinski look. Was pretty unattractive growing up so a huge late bloomer. Big believer in putting the work in to better yourself. Good thread though mate
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 01:24 PM
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For men anything 5,7 and under gets tough, I’m talking about the guys in the “I’m not 6’ I will never get laid” camp
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 01:19 PM
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I’ve seen short guys get poon. They don’t bitch like dweebs online do.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 01:18 PM
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Yep pretty much. Majority of guys aren’t good at it though and end up in shitty relationships with meh women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 02:43 AM
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I’m a 6’3 dude ya cuck
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 02:42 AM
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Going out to a bar not only will I get IOIs but generally women coming up to me and introducing themselves, often several times in one night. Sometimes even comment on my appearance if they’ve had a few drinks “he’s so cute/hot/etc”. Physically touching etc. in my office I’ve had approaches from maybe 10 or so women. Despite what some say not all men are absolute horn dogs. I’ve turned down open offers for sex (ie want to go back to my place said by the girl) multiple times to go home and do shi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/19 01:30 AM
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Women’s responsibility is to rear children. I imagine being single, mid 30s, as a woman is a brutal feeling
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:14 PM
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Same reason we kill others more than women do. We are violent AF
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:13 PM
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That’s a big assumption. I think 6’1-6’2 is the sweet spot for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:10 PM
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Height is just a way men can blame all their failures on something out of their control.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 09:08 PM
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Lol you’re basically proving a red pill tenant that women are gatekeepers to sex, men to commitment. It’s easier for the men that CAN date around. However there is a large minority of men that basically can’t get a gf to save their lives, and a larger group (likely majority) that can only get sex through relationships so they can’t string women along Being a player that does that is limited to a small piece of the population. And it’s telling how many women have experienced it because these few …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/19 02:36 AM
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This is inherently true to anyone with dating experience I don’t care which pill you are. Men generally initiate, escalate, plan dates, propose, court, etc. those things all need experience to get good (ok maybe not propose). Women’s role is more to sit there and look pretty, and determine if you like him (and if he likes you)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 04:38 PM
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No you didn’t. You just don’t realize it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 01:40 PM
2

The condition of that friendship is your current relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 01:40 PM
1

In terms of value? Yes. That’s how supply and demand works lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 01:39 PM
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Disagree. Would you go out to dinner one on one with them like you do a friend? Help them move? Go on a trip together? And there’s no underlying interest between either party? Then yep, you aren’t real friends. Acquaintances sure. Women provide benefits. But friends? Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 01:38 PM
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Would rather not
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 01:33 PM
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Lmao you are so so so wrong if you think 99% of redditors have heard of mgtow
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 01:29 PM
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Yep. 98/100 people would also have no clue what you meant by smv vs rmv (though I think most would agree with the concept once explained) A lot of people ie majority fail and don’t know why
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 01:29 PM
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The average person doesn’t overthink dating like us farts here. That being said there are definite shifts due to dating apps, the economic mobility of women, and social media. Dating is less now about courtship and more about who cares less until a relationship is formed. Dating someone for 1-2 months and them talking to numerous other potential suitors is table stakes now. Women no longer need a man to provide a good lifestyle for them That said it’s not all doom and gloom. People know their sm…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 01:25 PM
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I recommend furniture making/woodworking as a hobby to any man. Additionally, learning how to do most fix it jobs on your house and car that aren’t serious (electrical, major parts, etc) Produce more than consume. Play sports more than watch sports. Etc
/r/TheRedPill04/04/19 03:02 AM
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I love hard truths like these, especially when they call the manosphere on it’s own shit. I’m red pill, but think MRA and MGTOW can be pretty damn pathetic. Sadly, this is why most people are afraid of everything in life. Confronting their own inadequacy
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/19 12:05 AM
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Haha nope. You’ve only seen it happen because you’re a woman and men generally do stupid feats of masculinity to impress women
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:01 PM
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All yes, like Venezuela, China, USSR, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 03:00 PM
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This is true, but there are limitations
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:59 PM
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If multiple people value you based on your looks alone then that’s probably the only thing she’s bringing to the table. But continue living in your “We are all great!” World
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:59 PM
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Close, but wrong. It’s illustrative of her actual value as a person
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:55 PM
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No such thing. Sex is the underlying motivator, always
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:54 PM
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Only shitty because they aren’t attractive to her
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:49 PM
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Nah. If the friend was hot she’d be on it like white on rice
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:49 PM
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Lol love the realization of her realizing what little value she has outside of the fact she’s a woman. Most women really aren’t fun to hang around or add little to a friendship dynamic other than the fact that she’s a woman. It’s why many think they have awesome personalities or that the world is some great friendly place when it really is a bunch of horn dogs trying to get laid This also is another confirmation of a red pill tenant that women view orbiters with disgust.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:48 PM
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No, but it’s very difficult to command respect as a man from a group of people who are physically stronger than you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:22 AM
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Dad bod is a farce. It’s this generations “personality matters”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 02:21 AM
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as someone who is tall and has been skinny, chubby, and somewhat muscular it makes an absolute world of difference. Being strong means you fill out your shirt better, have better posture, stronger presence, etc. it’s hard to describe as the difference isn’t huge but it’s something you notice either subconsciously or not when interacting with someone. I would say skinny vs muscular is akin to a girl without makeup vs with makeup. The person looks the same, you know who it is, but the attraction c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 12:26 AM
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Yep virgin at 30 was basically saying you’re fucked for life how did you pull that off even walking around you should accidentally fall into a pussy at least once. Guess not case anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 06:58 PM
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Common trope I see among fellow red pillers. “Men Don’t care about career or intelligence! It’s all looks!” Yea, no. You’re just not high tier enough as a man in the dating pool to be able to have both the hot girl and hot smart girl to realize how much more valuable the second one is
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 06:57 PM
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The entire Red Pill and incel movement was birthed from men lacking solid masculine figures in their lives. Divorce hurts children no two ways about it
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/19 06:52 PM
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Attracted isn’t chemistry lmao. Again, lack of dating experience
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 09:34 PM
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Well duh, but it’s also the ability to “click”.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 09:33 PM
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Lmao at agreeing with a sarcastic post
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 07:23 PM
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And conservatives feel the same way about liberals. Congrats, you’ve accomplished nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 07:23 PM
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Yep. Have seen it first hand many many many times from women from all walks of life. Yes, shared interests is a plus. But end of day the masculine attractive guy she has nothing in common with will win out over the boy next door dweeb
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 07:07 PM
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Nah, all women want Draper. The ones that don’t still do against their wishes. If I had a dollar for every staunch feminist I courted by being an aloof muscular sexist yet funny douche.... Could probably get like 3 chipotle burritos with it BRB
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 07:02 PM
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Lol no it isn’t, especially in today’s age. “Lead the relationship, make decisions for her, escalate by doing x y z” will get you labeled a sexist in this day and age
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 07:01 PM
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The men here who are saying it isn’t true don’t have dating experience plain and simple. Almost laughing at these comments right now, clearly they’ve never been with a beautiful woman they have nothing in common with
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:59 PM
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Chemistry absolutely is a thing, especially in terms of RMV. In fact it’s probably the most important trait. And if you have decent social skills at all you will know chemistry when you experience it, so whether or not the woman has it isn’t an issue. I can fake chemistry well enough for a one night stand or short term fling. But it’s usually something you feel pretty quickly , and it’s a two way street. No such thing as she or he feels chemistry for them but not vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:57 PM
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Conservative =\= pro life. Is it a conservative value? Yes. But people have more complex belief systems than agree with everything on team R or D. It’s generally why anyone who limits their dating pool to just conservatives or liberals is a red flag in general - shows a pretty strong lack of open thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 06:49 PM
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How is empathy not a positive? Generally curious. Was it too much empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:47 PM
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This is why I don’t date feminist women. You are alive in the west in 2019 where things are more are less completely equal and you can do whatever you want. Stop. Fucking. Bitching. Same about MRAs. Fuckig loser mentalities
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:45 PM
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Good points all around. I know plenty of conservative men who are pretty overweight, southern, will win you with my wallet type. But they generally dress better (aka more professional) And the call out on virtue signaling is so true. Have seen this from plenty of liberals - act one way and behave another. A conservative comparison would be the really religious hypocritical type
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:40 PM
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Lol at calling conservative men racist when the only ones who talk about race nonstop are liberals
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:24 PM
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There is no way liberal women are less likely to cheat than conservative women, absolutely no way. As for men - who knows And this aligns with my experiences. As I worked out and got better looking I became more conservative/libertarian as well. There’s science behind this too. The liberal political movement aligns pretty closely right now with equality, body positivity, everyone’s a winner type stuff. This mentality of course will go better with ugly people who don’t want to put the work or acc…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 04:23 PM
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Yep. What is alpha and what women want changes as they get older. I have plenty of former fraternity brother friends who absolutely slayed in college but now are fat with a shit job. They still have the confidence of an alpha but can’t get a chick to save their lives
/r/TheRedPill31/03/19 10:23 PM
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I know these feminist women. The ones that are actually attractive (few and far between) still go for the Gronk type mega Chad bro. I’ve even overheard conversations between them saying how difficult it is to find a male feminist who’s also tall, strong, capable, etc It’s hilarious
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:45 PM
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Lmao what??? As someone with a dick no that doesn’t happen. Will men act differently around other men? Yes, but not in the ways you described
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:42 PM
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Askmen is a weak, pathetic bunch.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:41 PM
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Well duh. If hot women got turned on by guys who paint their nails pink and eat their own turds then that’s what men would do
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 09:39 PM
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Haha yep. “I wouldn’t fuck her” when talking about some actress while they are married to a pig
/r/TheRedPill31/03/19 02:56 AM
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Didn’t argue otherwise lll
/r/TheRedPill31/03/19 02:53 AM
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You send them a picture lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/19 02:52 AM
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Lol never heard this take but it’s so fucking true. They’d rather make out with their fucking friends to entertain an alpha than a beta male
/r/TheRedPill31/03/19 02:45 AM
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Competition is terrible these days. Imagine trying to compete against men 50 years ago. Every man was thin, dapper, likely useful (handy). Now if you have a worthwhile hobby (carpentry, music, not vidya and tv) you are already interesting and different. If you aren’t fat you’re above average. If you don’t wear graphic Ts you dress well. It’s so easy
/r/TheRedPill31/03/19 02:41 AM
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Yep. Half your competition isn’t even in the game because they’d rather jerk off and play vidya every night. If you lift 3x a week and diet well you will be too 20% assuming no other crater shortcomings (shorter than 5’8, unemployed, physical disformity) A guys face really doesn’t mean much if he’s jacked. 95% of men could become top 20% if they wanted. Almost none of them put in any work
/r/TheRedPill31/03/19 02:39 AM
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Bumble also went hard core feminist route so the top tier men left as did the women chasing them. Only cucks use it now
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:10 PM
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Using a drivers license pic seems much more verifiable. Yes you can lie on those but it’s usually not as pre-meditated as a dating app would be
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 09:09 PM
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Think of how you’d react to your dad showing emotions. Did he throw a temper tantrum over something small like his team losing a sports game? You’d lose respect for him. Did he cry after losing his job? You’d lose respect for him, and maybe have concern for your families well being. Did your mom cry after losing her job? You wouldn’t care as much because you know the family will be alright Did your dad cry after the death of a close loved one? You’d understand. Emotion is fine, but men don’t get…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:31 PM
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Have you met any men from this generation? It’s true. More women for the rest of us though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:28 PM
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All in good fun
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 07:28 PM
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lol dude as someone into lifting no you did not lose 50 lbs of muscle in a month that’s the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard
/r/TheRedPill30/03/19 01:25 PM
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The players leave, but so do any top tier options (alpha bux). Basically this is how to string along a guy you have complete control over
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:23 PM
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Don’t have the balls oooooorrrrr know that being sincere about intentions ESPECIALLY early on is considered unattractive by most women (and men, if we are being honest) It’s sad but if you go around saying “I’m looking for a relationship” you will be seen as desperate
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:22 PM
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Yep. Women will be more attracted when they get jealous. High tier men will bail out especially for relationships. She thinks withholding sex will kick the players out. Yes, it will. It will also kick any man who has options and self respect out
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:21 PM
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Haha 110%. Men know what men want and how men work (i.e. sex at all costs). Women fall more for the “he genuinely likes me” schtick when it’s obvious it isn’t true
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:19 PM
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^^^what someone who doesn’t get laid looks like ^^^^ come around kids and let’s all look at the loser man ^^^^
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 01:18 PM
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“Enjoy the decline” is preached at the red pill. That’s what this js
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:46 AM
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This is an interesting theory. As women surpass men in economic earning power it becomes harder for someone to beta bux their way to relationships. And if you can’t get a big $$$ job and don’t feel like getting shredded then dropping out and playing vidya games is the option
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:43 AM
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I really think younger men have been demonized so much that they are petrified of initiating and escalating with women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:33 AM
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Holy hell. Red pill blue pill whatever pill you believe in aside this is absolutely an alarming and worrisome number. Wizard status was reserved for the biggest outcasts of society, not 1/4th the population
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/19 12:29 AM
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Lol at saying SF has Stacy types
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:45 PM
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The thing is they want a tall masculine smart strong guy who’s also feminist. Yea those don’t really exist
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:23 PM
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And the men enforce it, I know these types. Love whipping themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:21 PM
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Denver is fit too. But yea the Midwest is embarrassingly fat. Like if you go in public 90% of adults are noticeably overweight
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:18 PM
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Lol no they aren’t. Vegan hikers aren’t fat. That said they are stlll ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:15 PM
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Nah dude Seattle men are blue pill HARD
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:14 PM
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Bullseye. Ever since the tech boom big bucks jobs go to pretty nerdy guys. These saps also buy the feminist narrative hard, and wonder why being a friendly pushover doesn’t get them puss
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:13 PM
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Lmao at this rationalizing
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:11 PM
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Yep, ton of men with good jobs and no experience with women
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:10 PM
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Lol at the blame falling on the men as always. No surprise here, average PNWite is similar to guys you see on Reddit. Nerdy, timid, ask girl permission to kiss type (Subs like ask men are filled with these soyboys). They deserve what they (don’t) get That being said Seattle women are no better and aren’t very approachable. Sure they usually are thin due to strange diets and outdoor hobbies, but they aren’t feminine. Arm hair, short hair cuts, and feminist viewpoints ? No thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 08:04 PM
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Job mobility is important. Both men and women are expected to corporate climb, put work first, and move for their jobs. When one person in the family unit does this it’s ok. When both do it you have frequent breakups
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:30 PM
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Disagree. The majority of relationships are like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 06:26 PM
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It’s sad but girls talk about this in their social group all the time. Pointing out when partners are similar size
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 12:56 PM
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Guy no 2 can also win her over with personality, similar interests, sense of humor, etc. women only think 20% of men are PHYSICALLY attractive. But when it comes to relationships they can find a average guy become attractive based on what else he brings to the table (doesn’t have to be assets), whereas guys generally don’t do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 12:55 PM
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AF/BB is true but represents only a minority of relationships (at least, the beta bux part). Most partnerships are relatively status and looks matched. The most glaring examples of beta bux is when a woman is nearing or post wall and wants to get married/have kids or she is a single mother and finds a helpless sap to marry her (I finally met a ‘real’ man). Also see this whenever you see people in professions like medicine, law, etc date someone much more physically attractive than them So while …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/19 12:53 PM
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nah. I am talking competitive more than hobbies. Not like PGA good but someone who golfed in college 9 times out of 10 will have a hotter wife/gf than a fighter. ​ ​ Lol at receiving downvotes though. Thought TRP liked hard truths. Not everyone is into MMA ya fucks
/r/TheRedPill29/03/19 03:18 AM
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Obvious to anyone who has worked with women. No one discriminates more against women workers than other women
/r/TheRedPill29/03/19 02:24 AM
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Fighters and powerlifters dont have top tier SMV. That dude is naive.
/r/TheRedPill29/03/19 02:21 AM
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lmao what? Fighters often have pretty trashy/low tier women. Powerlifters too. ​ ​ In terms of physically active people power lifters have pretty low SMV. Those guys are the opposite of aesthetics. How does this shit have upvotes. The SMV of an average golf or tennis players wife is miles above a fighter lmao
/r/TheRedPill29/03/19 02:21 AM
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similar to people calling Trump beta. absolutely hysterical delusion
/r/TheRedPill29/03/19 02:18 AM
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He was towards the end of the great boxing era where the heavyweight champ of the world was arguably one of the top 10 most famous people in the entire world. Ali, Frazier, Tyson, etc. ​ Not going to say he was highest status ever. Still seemed like an unsavory dude - but this does sound similar to the shit Trump says too
/r/TheRedPill29/03/19 02:16 AM
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Ah yea this was bar st Patrick’s day so alcohol was flowing.
/r/TheRedPill28/03/19 03:48 PM
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Wrong boyo. Had 3 different women approach me last weekend alone while out. Now this is rare, but it does happen
/r/TheRedPill28/03/19 12:55 PM
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Nope. Get off weird incel boards and get dating experience
/r/TheRedPill27/03/19 10:15 PM
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I mean do you really need it if the kid has some of your features?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 10:15 PM
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5x5 is a meme on how to look like an idiot in terms of aesthetics. All I’m saying
/r/askTRP27/03/19 04:27 PM
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Not directly. But not like you’re hiding something. Have to master banter my friend
/r/askTRP27/03/19 04:25 PM
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This is good advice. As a guy we know our own weaknesses and flaws, own insecurities. All too often we assume everyone else does too. People don’t, especially people we just met
/r/askTRP27/03/19 04:21 PM
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Sounds like a good rebuttal when you have no idea how to debate something.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:34 PM
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One size fits all is optimal only in theory discussion, not always application. By your 20s most girls are passed the “text all day” phase, especially ones of quality. Red pill works in general - but there are always exceptions
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:15 PM
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Not really. OP was about alphas needing the red pill, which isn’t always the case. Though it still helps naturals to know why they are successful. It’s possible for a natural to turn into a beta or a loser. Happens all the time. See: washed up high school athlete
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:14 PM
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Obviously yes. Alpha by default is a minority group
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 02:29 PM
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Lol no, they can still become betaized in their relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 02:29 PM
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Plate theory? Do elaborate. Because I’ve been part of that community for years and have never heard of anything like that Unless you mean balancing multiple women forces you to give less attention and thus boosting their attraction? That works on high and low n count women my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 02:28 PM
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Society. Parents. Their surrounding. Same with alphas. They often have a solid masculine presence in their life and the confidence to pursue their own goals
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:34 AM
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Those guys can still get screwed in relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:30 AM
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Military men are some of the biggest betas out there. The willing to die for another mans cause is quite literally one of the most beta things you can do. Military men are all about self sacrifice. A noble trait, not often an alpha one.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:29 AM
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Wrong. Beta traits are taught as much as alpha traits are. The path is a long one but anything can be learned and unlearned
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:27 AM
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Lmao it’s well accepted at TRP that natural alphas exist (doubt your husband is one sweetie). The entire point of TRP is teaching betas alpha male behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/19 03:27 AM
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Fair enough, this is the correct interpretation. But the 45 year old man still has the larger dating pool. Quality of pool might not be best though. For peak of both pool size and quality a man in his early 30s is at his prime. He can date anyone 23 to his age pretty easily
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 06:28 PM
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Lmao i said he wasn’t manosphere reread my post
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 02:23 PM
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Wearing a vest is a surefire way to show you have no idea what you are doing
/r/TheRedPill26/03/19 02:21 PM
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This is solid alpha provider style assuming you have the body to pull it off. Be careful to go too heavy on brands like Ralph Lauren or brooks brothers as that’s a quick way to look like a frat boy/beta bux dad bod.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/19 02:11 PM
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Yep black is dead. Navy for sure, grey as a secondary
/r/TheRedPill26/03/19 02:08 PM
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Yea that advice is bs. Short sleeve v necks and polos are the way to go especially if you have arms. You need to show that shit off, most button downs even ones that fit toight will Jose it
/r/TheRedPill26/03/19 02:08 PM
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Shirts with a collar generally show providership. Once you get a good body the best weapon in your arsenal is a well fitting vneck shirt and dark jeans, trust me on this. Dress like you want to fuck her, not do her taxes
/r/TheRedPill26/03/19 02:07 PM
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Kind of wrong. Most men will have a higher SMV as they age. Even ones that don’t take ideal care of themselves. A mans dating pool at 30 is almost always larger than 20 assuming linear life progression (career builds slowly, appearance fades slowly). Any sharp turns in either direction changes things
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 01:50 PM
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Going to shoot straight with you. Men in general care A LOT less about their woman’s status or career than vice versa. Yes, all things equal a well to do man will want a doctor more than a teacher as a wife. But as someone who’s dated doctors that also entails long hours by them, often times masculinity on their part, and a lack of a desire for larger families. As someone who can provide for myself i have no problem breaking up with a doctor for someone who can show more commitment You will neve…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 01:48 PM
1

Yes and no. There are YouTube channels like alpha m and guys like joe Rogan who aren’t technically manosphere but give masculine and sound dating advice
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/19 01:44 PM
1

Worked great for me. Didn’t have a girlfriend until college, never was respected by men or other women. Now I literally get hit on all the time, have dated multiple high tier women, and can get laid with little effort It works. Ironic thing is all red pillers at one time wish it didn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 10:46 PM
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Lol at more of this cope. Lifting is a universal way to become more attractive. But there’s a big difference between going to the gym and lifting heavy. Majority of people that go to the gym don’t go there to put on muscle mass. Additionally, red pill emphasizes being your own man and pursuing interesting hobbies. In a world of “watch tv all day” and “you’re attractive just the way you are” believe it or not this is good advice Also, I believe most blue pilled men who weren’t born into playing s…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/19 06:43 PM
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That’s why. It isn’t a coincidence
/r/TheRedPill25/03/19 12:17 AM
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This is absolutely true in my experience. Money and earnings potential mean zilch as a teen and little in college unless the woman is smart Women who are in their late 20s to early 30s know the well is running dry and will hold off sex as long as possible. Early 20s girls are still in the discovery party phase and post divorced women already been there done that with commitment and just want fun
/r/TheRedPill25/03/19 12:14 AM
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oh it's you again. Clearly you dont have dating experience if you havent seen the dynamic change.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/19 07:41 PM
1

cope and absolutely pathetic. I went from being a kissless virgin dweeb to being the guy that women come up to at bars to ask out and having hundreds of matches on any dating app at a time. Yea I'm tall but my face overall is average. ​ Getting built from lifting and diet, being witty, and having cool interests that you show on your profile will carry you the distance. ​ But keep on keeping on with that loser mentality
/r/TheRedPill24/03/19 07:40 PM
1

New toy story trailer appears to be that as well. Let’s turn Bo Peep, a capable character in her own right, into some karate master. Women can be strong without being men
/r/RedPillWomen23/03/19 09:13 PM
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Easy to do when single, harder to do when in a relationship, hardest to do when taking the red pill in a relationship and you’ve already given up sizable ground But you’re 100% right. Most men are absolute pusses to their wife though
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 08:38 PM
1

I always want to be my SOs best, in multiple ways. So far & ugly - though it would make you think if something was wrong with her
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 08:33 PM
1

Yep. Married in early to mid 20s guys can be high betas but they most certainly aren’t alpha high smv types
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 12:50 PM
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This is my experience. In my late 20s the majority of married friends have never really had casual success and have an n count less than 3 or 4. The remaining single dudes are slayers or omegas
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 12:48 PM
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lol not remotely true. 95% of men have no chance marrying a Stacy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/19 12:46 PM
4

Problem is the majority of men want think they want commitment, but really it’s their only option. It’s like a declawed cat not scratching you - it has no choice The men that can get casual sex but want commitment are the men that women are after
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 01:56 PM
1

Well yea, being fit at 22 is normal at 32 it makes you stand out. But your dating pool is huge at early 30s because you can date down to lower mid 20s much easier
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 11:19 PM
1

Most markets it’s not indicative of the dating market we talk about here. It’s more Waffle House waitresses than UMC beauties
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 05:35 PM
1

A guy with his shit together all else equal at 32 has much much much more power in dating market than 22
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 05:31 PM
3

Average age for marriage for women is still mid 20s
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 05:30 PM
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This has been called out before and completely agree. Women’s equivalent of height isn’t weight, it’s age. What hurts them is that it means all women start out tall and slowly lose an inch every few years. If you lock down a mate that can be ok. But so many women get old longing for the glory days
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 05:29 PM
1

Oh the thing everyone literally has
/r/TheRedPill21/03/19 03:34 AM
1

Have a sense of humor
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 03:34 AM
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Lol nope
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 03:34 AM
2

Well no shit he’s a rock climber of course hes spergy
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 03:33 AM
8

Similar to “dumb jock” trope. Athletes are often disciplined and well socialized.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 03:32 AM
1

In your head yes, in reality no.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 03:32 AM
2

No one hot uses tinder anymore lol
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/19 03:29 AM
1

Ah another male feminist that doesn’t get laid
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/19 04:20 PM
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Nope. It’s overblown bs that’s basically cope by virgins
/r/TheRedPill20/03/19 12:29 AM
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I'm a trump supporter and I have bagged many staunch feminists (but still hot, dont look at me like that). ​ ​ The golden line if they sharply disagree (and they WILL put up some defense judging you) is along the lines of "you're an attractive girl. Do you ever wonder how many guys just agree with anything you say to have a shot with you?". In a round about hamster spinning way this makes you look like the feminist who is treating her like a person, and subtly showing that you have a spine far m…
/r/TheRedPill19/03/19 02:32 AM
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lol no they aren't. STDs are overblown by people who dont get laid. They are carried by meth heads and street rats. Not huge in 20 something college educated crowd. And only Aids is going to truly impact your life hard as a guy. Rest are like catching anything else that can be treated by a pill
/r/TheRedPill19/03/19 02:27 AM
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eye ball test on if couples are looks matched or not. But you are right - cant read minds about happiness
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 02:00 AM
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After having kids women can get by without men much easier. Lower to no sex drive, can get sex easily if and when they want it, companionship from friends, oh and half the money
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 01:59 AM
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Thank you. We've had our disagreements before but the MAJORITY of relationships are between two people similar in looks with mutual attraction to each other. Post wall settling for a beta bux does happen. Gold diggers marrying an old schlub does happen. Those are not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 01:46 AM
2

Nope. Women are still sexually attracted in those relationships. Just from other stuff besides physical. That's how women work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 01:45 AM
1

Happens, obviously, but is not the norm in relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 01:43 AM
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Hinge is the best in my experience. I match with 95% of the girls I swipe right on and I’m selective. Tinder is mostly hoes and street rats. I right swipe maybe 1 in 30 girls there. And it’s all pay to play if you’re a guy due to numbers
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 07:24 PM
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Absolutely. But a loser in his 20s will be a loser in his 30s if they don’t make changes. Good news is your competition gets worse in terms of looks as you age
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 07:23 PM
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Yep, that is IF you take care of yourself. But women in their 30s have no power - none - in the dating market. It’s great to experience
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 07:08 PM
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Tinder is broken because so many guys pay to play to speak. If you’re even top 20% no one sees your profile
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 07:07 PM
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That’s the entire SJW class bro. I know plenty of woman feminists (in fact fucked one this weekend) who do the exact opposite of practice what they preach when it comes to what they want in a man
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 07:04 PM
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You shouldn’t be using tinder anyways. Only trash girls there now.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 06:50 PM
1

Yep. In that boat myself and dating apps are an ego stroke for me.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 06:49 PM
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Lmao If you’re being rejected on dating apps then sorry bud you ain’t high value. I use dating apps as a way to jerk off to myself. It’s a self esteem boost - not the other way around
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 06:49 PM
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It applies to other thigs in business as well. For example take a clothing store. 80% of their revenue will come from around 20% of their products.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 06:47 PM
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If you’re a guy and reading this then this is GOOD news for you. It means there’s more reward at the top. You think you want to bust your ass to be top 10% only to have a few women to choose from? Fuck no, strive to be the best. And any man short of disfiguration can be top 20%. Hit the gym, lift, dress well, find a cool hobby, you’re there. And let me tell you - it’s worth it. Your competition is weak. Work on yourself and you’ll be glad that women only go for 20% of men
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 06:46 PM
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CMV is that far more than 20% of men are in relationships that (presumably) have mutual sexual attraction. So a guy that’s average in looks, average in charisma, but whoa he is top 20% in money can still have a wife or girlfriend Really the 80/20 rule applies to physical attraction and the kind of guys that can sleep around. The majority of men have sex with a few partners their entire life and can only get that sex by offering commitment and resources of some sort. Good looking guys don’t have …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 06:43 PM
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I’m not fat drunk. But I’m also not an anti social aspie like OP
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 02:55 PM
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But the evidence it presents is still meaningful
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 02:54 PM
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Only trashy people still use tinder
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 01:52 PM
1

The study isn’t silly at all. Of course we here know women are less visual creatures. But if you tell average people this stuff they would be shocked
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 01:49 PM
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Those with the options regardless of gender will be more choosy. You think the top 20% of men swipe right on everything? On apps like tinder I will swipe right on maybe 1 in 30 women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 01:48 PM
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Men just aren’t physically attractive in general to women. They win women over with other traits such as confidence, charisma, money, etc that don’t come over in an app. Women will only think a handful of guys are cute. But they still can fall in love with and become attracted to men that they at first visually aren’t into. Us men don’t always understand this component. Women can meet a guy and go from indifferent to attracted. Men (generally) can’t. It’s yes or no and will almost always be yes …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 01:43 PM
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What I don’t get about these studies is NO ONE uses tinder anymore, especially not in the dating marketplace we talk about here. Go on tinder and you have mostly trashy women, blue collar joes, community college peeps, Snapchat filter faces, etc. low value people. Apps like hinge are much better for the crowd we talk about here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/19 01:32 PM
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Nah. I went out for St Patties. Drank all day. Went home with a model tier girl. Why? Because I'm not an anti social fucking loser
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 12:34 AM
2

Yep. Chicago is full of good looking guys and girls celebrating it.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 12:32 AM
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Thank you. I mean christ this post is ridiculous. This would be like if there was a fat people support group subreddit and saying eating aspargus for one day will get you a six pack. ​ ​ Have fun with life.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 12:31 AM
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Your life will suck if you cant have a beer every now and then. I dont drink regularly and dont binge drink at all, but had a lot of alcohol yesterday and ended up bagging a pretty hot girl. ​ Work your ass off in the gym and diet but enjoy your body every once in a while. The schlubs you see are bar regulars. That's not the lifestyle you want.
/r/TheRedPill18/03/19 12:26 AM
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Lol wrong again. Most high valued guys aren’t dating their college gf. They are moving to alpha tier cities for their career
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/19 04:57 AM
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Lol that’s still not a family. You need to understand better what red pill means
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 03:06 PM
2

Because men have to generally be more socially capable than women, even though women are generally better in social situations. If a woman is socially awkward or into weird hobbies it will barely impact her dating value. For a man it can absolutely kill it
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 03:06 PM
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Oh please. Women do a shit awful job of thinking long term when securing partners at early stages in life. It’s obvious early on what people will go on and be functional human beings. Ask any teacher, they can tell you. When you were dating in high school and college did your parents approve of your partner? They also (generally) know how a guy will turn out. It’s not uncommon for a parent to like their kids partner significantly more or less than their kid does. I displayed plenty of comfort tr…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 02:59 PM
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If you include commitment as part of the equation in a mans value then of course it will say high value guys commit earlier. This isn’t the case at all. Go to any city. If a guy is in a good career and is attractive he will almost never be married before his late 20s. Exception for religion. The guys who marry early are generally high betas
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 02:43 PM
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They take the risk when there is little risk. They will take it when he’s a lawyer or in med school, not pre med
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 02:39 PM
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Damn man this is true as fuck. Dude in my late 20s and when I first graduated college and lived downtown I’d get feelings for women after a handful of dates from a dating app, or maybe meeting them at a bar, or work, or whatever. Yea it was blue pill days but that relationship spark of falling for someone was there. Now I’m in my late 20s and sleep with a decent number of women a year, go on dates with many more, and literally feel nothing. Maybe one in every 30 women I have relations with I get…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 02:37 PM
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In urban environments the highest value women will usually be snatched up by 25-26. Once you get to late 20s there will be something “wrong” with them. This doesnt mean only crazies or bitches are left. Often the case is women who traveled/moved a lot, put off relationships for career/experiences, or maybe are fresh off an LTR that could have been marriage but something else got in the way. These kind of people aren’t broken or morally inferior, but they generally are “want my cake and eat it to…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 02:30 PM
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This is almost all style, grooming, and behavior though. Body type wise no one will prefer anything but lean and muscular unless it’s a fetish
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 02:24 PM
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Vast majority of men are absolute shit when it comes to style, if they even have one or are aware of it. That said all men should go for the jacked look (go for - as almost all will fall short of ever overdoing it), as I’ve yet to see any man look better thin or chubby than with muscle. Areas where men can absolutely fuck up though is with beards, hair , and clothes. This is where you can be penalized for not having the ability to grow a good beard but damnit trying anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 02:22 PM
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But you get kids, and thus a greater purpose - and won’t die alone. TRP is right about many things. Child rearing isn’t one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 11:32 AM
1

Was Christmas more magical when you believed Santa was real? Yes. Are you glad you know Santa isn’t real? Well as an adult we wouldn’t be receiving any presents if we still believed in the lie, would we?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 11:29 AM
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This is one thing women don’t realize about themselves. They don’t want equality, they want you to make decisions for them
/r/TheRedPill15/03/19 01:47 AM
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No. They aren’t average lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 01:45 AM
1

Yes it is loser. It means she’s never had a real relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 01:44 AM
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Yes, because good men have height, income, and personality requirements. Good women really don’t have to have any of those
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 01:42 AM
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Top tier men are not marrying young lol
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 01:40 AM
5

In the old days yes. In today’s world no way
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/19 01:39 AM
2

No, no they are not. I know the white collar college graduate male crowd well. The average ones do not get hundreds of matches. Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 12:55 PM
5

Haha obviously, but women care about how much you like you can lift. To a woman being able to bench 200 or 300 might as well be the damn thing, it would be like having an american tell you how much Yen is worth. Those numbers are meaningless. The X factor can be any number of things. Maybe you’re a successful club DJ. Maybe you own a sailboat and do that as a hobby. Maybe you have your own business or high scocial standing in the community (president of some organization she gives a damn about) …
/r/TheRedPill14/03/19 12:55 PM
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Got news for you sweetie, you don’t know what average is
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 02:30 AM
1

That but other women don’t respect and look up to those women the way men do alpha males.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 02:30 AM
1

You are spot on with everything you’ve said
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 02:28 AM
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Lol nope. As a top tier guy myself I have only one other friend (also 6ft+, dresses well, fit, etc) that gets the match volume to serially date. Most guys who are average in looks get a handful of matches a month
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/19 02:24 AM
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Yep. In the dating big leagues being 6+ and fit, above average face, interesting personality/hobbies, and a good career is TABLE STAKES. And unless you have an x factor (and no being tall, or having a 6 pack, or being able to deadlift 500 isnt an x factor at this level) then you are pretty disposable. ​ These men also are not afraid to confront you as well. You think shit tests from women are bad? You will get them from other men too.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/19 12:09 AM
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This is what annoys me about posts here saying "make her want you and no one else" or "have her go crazy over you" or any other number of posts. ​ These people have never dated HB8+ women. When you date a college cheerleader, hot athlete, model, etc. they have top tier dick thrown at them. Unless you can raise your value to an absurd level you will be disposable. ​ Which is ok. They are disposable too. And dont compare yourself to others but the man you were a month ago, a year ago, etc.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/19 12:07 AM
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In grad school you can still dress like an adult. NYC different market tho
/r/TheRedPill12/03/19 02:15 PM
1

As a woman life would be easier in a ton of ways. Dating, social acceptance, etc. but idk I like being a 6’+ male into lifting. Knowing you can kick the ass of the majority of people around you is a nice feeling
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/19 02:09 PM
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It aint easing doing it especially on camera with another guy following you around. The dude is pretty damn good looking though and shouldnt have issues. He is 28 though and needs to dress like it instead of looking like Bart Simpson
/r/TheRedPill12/03/19 02:18 AM
2

You forgot virgins
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 08:32 PM
1

Lmao at calling yourself an omega Youre thinking of Sigma
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 03:51 PM
1

Well duh. That’s something that undermines men’s rights. Men aren’t allowed to bitch or complain in society. Women are encouraged. Give both parties the same adversity one group will tolerate it one will rise their voice. If you’re a man who complains by default you’re seen as weak and thrown out from the group
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/19 12:07 AM
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Blue pill alpha male doesn’t mean natural lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 02:52 PM
2

You can never know a girls n count but introvert ones will usually have a lot less. They are the type to care more about reading/writing/etc then partying/bars Good call here
/r/TheRedPill09/03/19 02:48 PM
1

I agree 100%
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 02:08 AM
1

I've been cold approached by women but it's rare and generally someone below my league
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/19 01:39 AM
2

No woman with options will “love” a man she hardly knows lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:08 PM
1

You truly don’t know the demographic here do you Hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 08:08 PM
2

I’m attractive and women hit on me, but they also generally will send IOIs instead of outright ask
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 04:40 PM
2

Nice. But still not the norm.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 04:39 PM
2

Lmao that’s your problem - you’re going on female subs. Huge mistake there unless you want your future girlfriend to have armpit hair
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 04:39 PM
5

Well this is laughably wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 04:38 PM
3

Guarantee you the man talked first, the man drove the conversation,the man planned coffee, and follow up date, and escalated into sex
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 04:38 PM
3

Love the use of “We” as the guy 100% initiated everything here
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 03:44 PM
1

This is also true. Outside the gym by being fit you are top 20%. Inside the gym by being fit you are average, maybe less depending on the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 03:35 PM
0

Sound like someone sucks. I’ve made a lot of friends both guys and girls at the gym
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 03:30 PM
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Yep. I’ve met a partner at the gym before. It’s not about walking up while she has her headphones on and doing squats to talk. It’s being social in general (I am friends with other gym regulars guy and girl) and if there seems to be mutual interest (ex: she comes over to talk, you talk about more stuff than how’s it going or weather, etc) go for it My advice with this is EVERYWHERE is a place to meet women as well as nowhere. You don’t go to the grocery store or Starbucks to pick up chicks for e…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 03:11 PM
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Except women want guys and aren’t willing to make the move lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/19 02:26 AM
1

What are some examples of pussy tingling presence ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 11:32 PM
2

Eh a text to meet isn’t a big deal. Got to put in some effort to get anywhere. Just be ready to cut and run at any sign of orbiter
/r/TheRedPill07/03/19 09:11 PM
1

Yea probably a good example. I think he’s lucky everything played off well because another roll of the dice he could be one ugly dude
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:10 PM
1

What I’m referring too is purely physical. Not “attractive” overall. Example : on a dating app, or showing a picture to a friend A meh guy with good style or presence or personality can halo effect his overall attractiveness but on paper he still won’t look great
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 09:09 PM
1

How would you rate someone like John Krasinski (jack ryan, not necessarily the office). Tall, in shape, good looking, but undeniably goofy features (ear and nose) that just happen to play well off each other
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 05:46 PM
1

That and guys can change buckets based on personality or status. I say the above is pretty accurate The 80/20 rule with looks for men is a thing. But that’s just looks, doesn’t mean overall attraction. Just that women will only really notice and talk about the top 20% of guys (maybe even less)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 05:43 PM
1

That’s a ridiculous standard. It’s a bell curve around 5. Most people fall between a 3 and a 7. If you’re a woman an 8+ you can probably make a living from your looks
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 05:11 PM
1

Someone less than 6 doesn’t put the months low end of the looks scale lmao height isn’t everything. Build and face can matter just as much assuming the guy isn’t a Manlet. Even then status is such a determinant for men that looks has a pretty small factor
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 05:08 PM
5

lol men don’t have to be 6’0 at all
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 05:06 PM
3

5 is a smash and don’t brag about it. 4 is a smash and are embarrassed by it. 6 is cute and a personality can make her great. 7s+ are smash and brag about it, and LTR and put up with shit if they aren’t perfect
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 04:55 PM
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Thats what I thought. Either OP is extremely good looking and doesn’t realize it (doubtful. To get this kind of interaction from a woman you have to be a stud), the woman in question isn’t nearly as hot as OP describes (plausible), or she’s just being playful looking for someone new to give her attention (probable) The ‘she’s into you despite your nerves and awkwardness’ is a blue pill dream that only plays out in movies
/r/TheRedPill07/03/19 10:59 AM
1

Lol Chad’s have too much self respect to be strung along. They will be friends with women in casual ways, but aren’t in the friend zone
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 01:46 AM
3

Love the mind reading. “Don’t be weird or make a pass, unless im into you then totally do why didn’t you get my subtle hints!”
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 01:34 AM
2

lol k
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/19 12:43 AM
4

Yep. Naturals had it since birth. They likely were among the best in sports and also best looking as a kid to get positive feedback loop from both men and women that snowballs into confidence as an adult
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 05:32 PM
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It takes a number of things which unfortunately are rare in today’s society. To “get it” with women and be a “natural” or “Chad” (who almost always doesn’t know about TRP but naturally lives it’s principles) you usually have: The person needs to be well socialized. This means in social groups from a very young age. Good with people. Best way to do this is sports, gives kids socialization and physical activity The person needs a strong masculine figure. Someone who knows women like a brother or f…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/19 05:19 PM
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It’s not that Betas don’t think Alphas exist. It’s that they think the women they get are dumb vapid whores and their gf is some angel AWALT
/r/TheRedPill06/03/19 11:53 AM
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Guy went straight to looks and was red pilled that even his tall/not fat body wasn’t enough.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/19 06:44 PM
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Timeline checks out on this. Chad began talking to her pre-break when she wanted distance and felt trapped (that’s what triggered those feelings). Then after banging he moved on Absolutely savage
/r/TheRedPill05/03/19 06:42 PM
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Yep. If you become chad enough women won’t cheat as easily unless they meet some kind of giga Chad. Sounds stupid but there is social stigmas to branch swinging that a woman won’t break unless that new branch is worth the risk.
/r/TheRedPill05/03/19 06:25 PM
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That’s why you should always be able to get another partner easily. I’ve been in breakups with women where it was tough getting over her. But the issue was NEVER not being able to get physically satisfied after from other women as I always made sure to take care of yourself The emotional healing takes time. But you should always be able to fuck another girl if you wanted
/r/TheRedPill05/03/19 06:23 PM
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If a girl isn’t enthusiastically putting out then realize she would do it for a different man. Always be working on yourself so that if a girl leaves then you have options. As for this guy, probably a poor sap raised to be nice. He likely had plenty of chances to bang the girl but didn’t. As for the girl - if Chad and calling again she would drop plan b in a heartbeat. OP should cut off contact with the whore, be grateful that she even told him about the Chad sex, and try to get as muscular as c…
/r/TheRedPill05/03/19 06:22 PM
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Not traveling, but traveling alone. And if you’re in a relationship and she (or the guy) wants to go abroad for an extended period of time (more than 4 days) then yes that’s a major issue and a very good chance cheating will occur Experiences should be shared together. You can have crazy beach sex with your boyfriend or girlfriend, doesn’t have to be some local you just met
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 04:33 PM
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Women have always been about appearances while men are about function. Look at an average dudes apartment compared to a woman’s.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 02:57 PM
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I’d say Big Bang theory cast is an example of pretty average dudes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 02:46 PM
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You’re correct, however most people especially women don’t see it that way. They think a boyfriend prevents them from traveling abroad, focusing on career, having crazy experiences - when it doesn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 02:40 PM
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Marrying young is a trade off. There is no “perfect” solution. If you’re a woman your time to maximize your partner is far more limited than men. So yes, travel the world when young, move cities, date casually, but you may wake up at 27 unable to attract commitment like you used to. Of course you can get by and have best of both worlds, but it’s a risk College used to be the ideal place to find a partner. That’s mostly gone out the window.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/19 02:38 PM
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nope lol
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 08:56 PM
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Nope. AWALT buddy. I know plenty of artsy women. The ones that can fuck the jocks will and do.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 08:56 PM
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If women can convince men not to care about these traits (and it’s working due to their own guilt) then they can still hold men to masculine standards and get more for their effort put in It’s already working. Go to a place like AskMen and say you prefer women with clean shaven legs and arms and enjoy the downvotes and comments from soy boys saying “do you shave your arms then!?!” Or “hair is natural!!!”
/r/TheRedPill03/03/19 07:34 PM
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Athletes are more socially developed than basement dwellers
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 07:18 PM
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No they aren’t. They think they are or convince themselves they are because they have no chance with them If the jocks would actually show interest in them they would drop soy boy in a heartbeat. Seen it many times
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 07:17 PM
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You can absolutely learn and adopt body language though. I disagree it’s something you’re always born with. Put a guy into a gym and into enough social situations and his baseline confidence will eventually increase and his body language will as well
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 07:14 PM
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....and?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 04:58 PM
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You dont get oneitis from one random girl you meet at a bar lol jesus this sub
/r/TheRedPill03/03/19 04:28 PM
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Nope. Used to be a thing only basement dwelling virgins were into
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 04:28 PM
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Lol no. More like guys are actually honest with what they find attractive. That’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 05:47 AM
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Not just beta, many are fine owning them. But there are far far far more male omegas than females and no one wants them
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/19 04:41 AM
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Really? It's literally in half the threads
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 03:11 PM
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lol who says I do? The post was about best advice to fuck someone. Acting alpha around the bar hoping she gets jelly aint gonna cut it most times.
/r/TheRedPill02/03/19 03:11 PM
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Extremely accurate. The fact that men care more about objects while women do social status is telling and pretty obvious. You didn’t see women become Star Wars fans until it became acceptable to do so
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/19 01:26 PM
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We are talking about what works and what doesnt. Not 'how to not appear needy'. You want to fuck that girl then this is shit advice. You want to appear not needy to her so while she is getting fucked by someone else that night she thinks "geee, whuttupfoo sure isnt needy" then pat yourself on the back mission accomplished
/r/TheRedPill01/03/19 09:48 PM
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lmao whatever you tell yourself bud. If you are doing it with the end goal of fucking her then yes, at some level you do care.
/r/TheRedPill01/03/19 09:41 PM
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That's how the jargon is used here. Deal wit it bro
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 09:40 PM
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You dont determine your value in the dating marketplace.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 09:40 PM
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1 in 10 in the active dating market discussed here (people in 20s to 30s. College educated.) Overall it’s closer to top 2-5%
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 07:10 PM
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value is relative mate. I’m pretty damn high value myself. 6’+, lift regularly, dress well, top 10% income for my age, interesitng hobbies, prestigious education, pretty charismatic, etc. enough that it’s rare on a dating app that if I swipe right on a girl she doesn’t match me back. Have dated and courted college cheerleaders, models, dance team members, doctors, etc. (enough to know AWALT). This isn’t me jerking myself off, it’s to show that even if your game is tight then you can still be out…
/r/TheRedPill01/03/19 06:44 PM
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So are thots with tight asses. LA certainly is a unique market, but plain Midwest Jane will struggle there compared to big tits Becky
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 06:17 PM
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Hovering over her like a chump is worse, escalating/isolating and going for the kill is best. Or meeting and hanging out with her friends. Or any number of things. You can be as great as you fucking want but there will be another if not multiple guys at any venue that have the same value package you do and when you leave the girl for 30 minutes because you want to build desire or some bullshit another guy will swoop in and smash that puss. If you have an over the top value package (ie you were s…
/r/TheRedPill01/03/19 06:08 PM
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Yes they are. As a top 10% guy we are rare. Are nice guys with good jobs, healthy interests, and caring personalities in abundance? Yes they are. Are guys that have all that but also are tall, in shape, stylish, and know game in abundance? Nope - that’s left for the top 10%
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 06:02 PM
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Exactly, it all depends on how much this girl is on your finger. I’ve been in both situations too. Situation 1: girl that you’re chatting up at party/bar. You leave her to talk to other women, guys. This shows that you’re personable, life of the party, and she wants you more. Works Situation 2: you’re chatting up girl at bar party. You go to talk to other people. Another guy goes to her and closes where you didn’t. She doesn’t give a fuck about you talking to other people because a new guy is sh…
/r/TheRedPill01/03/19 04:30 PM
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Lol you couldn’t be more wrong, probably from lack of experience. You can have abundance to not care, but if you’re talking to a girl at a party or bar then you’re shooting yourself in the foot by leaving. You can jerk off to being “the prize” all you want. Fact is even if you’re a top 10% dude there will be other top 10% dudes around waiting to swoop in. He who waits masturbates and by not escalating and showing intent you will just be warming her up for a different cock
/r/TheRedPill01/03/19 04:27 PM
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Still shit advice. Yes you can look like you don’t need her. But it also opens up the door for another dude to move in
/r/TheRedPill01/03/19 04:24 PM
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Lmao absolutely yes. Jesus have some standards
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 04:22 PM
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Being a logical android is a good way to butt fuck yourself Overthinking is a thing
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 03:11 AM
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Maybe in marriage. In a normal relationship? No way.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/03/19 03:10 AM
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Another example - be in a friend group with women (bonus points if 30+) and date someone 6-7 years younger than them
/r/TheRedPill01/03/19 03:09 AM
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any good advice to cultivate some of these situational alpha opportunities ?
/r/TheRedPill01/03/19 03:07 AM
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It is absolutely pathetic the extent some women will go to when it comes to the situational alpha. I have seen girls flock to the QB of a coed flag football team for example, despite being not very athletic or good looking
/r/TheRedPill01/03/19 03:06 AM
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Same experience. It was noted that being the president changed you, and guys traditionally meek would come in and come out absolutely slaying. ​ ​ Similarly, if you are at a party and a girl finds out you are a pledge she will fucking bail in a heartbeat
/r/TheRedPill01/03/19 03:04 AM
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Disagree with the "excite her and leave" option. You dont have time to dick around in life. If you are at a bar or party another guy will swoop in. If you are in a random social setting you may never see her again. There are very few situations where this is actually good advice unless you have been fucking this girl already and have her firmly in your palms
/r/TheRedPill01/03/19 03:02 AM
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Fellas just going to go ahead and say it. You can do everything right on your end. Hold frame, lift regularly, make a lot of money, etc. but if russel brand ends up next to your wife in a social setting and has the desire to bone her then you’re screwed
/r/TheRedPill28/02/19 06:30 PM
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it’s the only way to ague concepts and save time. Of course there will be differences. Women like to be submissive for example A decent sized majority though enjoy dominance
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:03 PM
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Nope. Men and women breakup at the same rate. Whoever is the one broke up with regardless of gender will feel blindsided.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 05:02 PM
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It’s because our discussion is at a macro level
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 04:26 PM
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From this sub you’d think only women ever break up. I think a lot of TRPers just have broken hearts from being left
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 04:22 PM
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Lmao both sexes do this. If a guy gets rich he will upgrade his wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 04:19 PM
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First part of each is definitely true. Men are more visual creatures and can love a woman (infatuation) while knowing very little about her. Women can be physically indifferent to a mans appearance yet learn to love him over time
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 04:16 PM
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More often than not when it comes to big decisions that emotional decision is correct. Where to live, what to do with your life, whom to marry. Don’t trust the brain with these decisions. That said, don’t trust the dick with it either
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 04:15 PM
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That’s how all breakups work dude. I find it funny that all the posts here come from men who have been broken up with, but never done the breaking up themselves. If you ever broke up with someone you checked out beforehand You don’t just flip a switching one day and think “time to end it!”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 04:09 PM
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What does this even mean lol
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 04:09 PM
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Eh personal experience goes against this. You should never be blindsided by a relationship ending, if you are then 99% of the time you just aren’t attentive. There is almost ALWAYS a notable drop off in communication, in intimacy, in enthusiasm, more arguing, etc. yes you can be blindsided but it likely meant you were too obtuse to see the warning signals. I do agree that women recover quicker though. Women can go out and find a rebound very quickly, only high value men can do this. Though women…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 04:08 PM
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Not true.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 02:14 PM
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As a guy I’d also include if I was fresh (less than a month) off a 1/2/3 year relationship I could see not having any interest in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 02:07 PM
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I probably date, sleep with, or pursue anywhere from 30-40 women a year and even with that kind of volume only meet 1 MAYBE 2 women that I consider 10/10s (not looks, but in compatability) on average a year. I couldn’t believe letting one slip away for any reason on my end because they are rare as fuck as you get older
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 01:58 PM
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This is the right answer. I’ve had or seen relationships with LTRs end and someone says “I’m not ready for another relationship” But if you have any dating experience at all you know that very strong connections are incredibly rare. You shouldn’t let it pass unless you yourself still need time to heal
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 01:55 PM
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Absolutely have had this happen for a number of reasons. Could be fresh off an LTR and don’t want to jump back into things. Could be in grad school or about to move soon and not want anything serious. Could be someone you work worth or otherwise don’t want to ruin a relationship with. That said if it’s a very strong connection you have to realize those only come around maybe once or twice a year. You shouldn’t let it slip away
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 01:53 PM
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Lmao not true at all. You realize nothing is stopping men from literally taking whatever we want right? Except other men and or own moral code
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/19 01:35 AM
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Lol nice guys don’t say this.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 10:56 PM
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Women wont admit it but all things equal between two candidates the woman (esp if attractive) has the better chance at getting the job. Accounting departments used to be all men, now a lot of smoke shows
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 05:26 PM
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Just saying alpha/beta is absolutely relative. Yes you can have traits that make you an alpha in most situations. But you can take a meek beta dweeb and put him in a room full of women and incels and he will become more attractive as a result, might even gain the interest of said women. That being said in the inverse an otherwise solid guy surrounded by high tier men will look like shit in comparison and be treated as such
/r/TheRedPill27/02/19 05:12 PM
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This. Kino and escalation is everything
/r/TheRedPill27/02/19 04:22 PM
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Because you don’t know enough people lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 12:20 PM
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Yep. Those women exist in corporate offices. It’s anazing what camera angles , lighting, makeup can do for someone
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/19 12:15 PM
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Should be more of this comment. It applies to career and career only. You should be fucking bitches everywhere else
/r/TheRedPill26/02/19 11:47 PM
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Lmao wrong. Shit where you eat applies to a big boy job you child You absolutely should be gaming and fucking girls in your apartment, at your gym, at your church if you’re into that, in your classroom, etc. that’s human nature and yea you’ll have to deal with awkward moments when things go south (and they will). Grow up deal with it The rule only applies in close working coordinates. Classroom? Fucking lol that should be your playground
/r/TheRedPill26/02/19 11:46 PM
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You got downvoted but you’re right. I lifted with dumb bells for 2 years and absolutely plateaued until I got to barbell lifts
/r/TheRedPill26/02/19 11:42 PM
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I think build matters a lot too. Tall and 185 compared to short and 185 will have different body weight comparisons
/r/TheRedPill26/02/19 11:41 PM
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When I was a teenager I couldn’t bench the bar and was too weak to use the barbell clamps lol Yesterday just deadlifted 380 for first time and last week hit PR of 220 on the bench. These aren’t “look at me” numbers but they are awesome to achieve when you’ve been weak your entire life
/r/TheRedPill26/02/19 11:38 PM
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Not just women but the respect from men. Walking around the office and knowing you could kick the ass of anyone in the room is a confidence boost
/r/TheRedPill26/02/19 11:35 PM
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True but it is damn near impossible to bulk and build abs (not core) at the same time. If you are skinny fat I recommend gaining muscle first. Abs are an accessory, they rarely get the girl
/r/TheRedPill26/02/19 11:34 PM
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As someone who is self taught then do yourself a favor and look up the major barbell lifts (squat, deadlift, bench, overhead press, etc) and form a plan on them. Diet and rest. I’ve seen more progress in 6 months with a plan on major lifts than in the year prior fucking around Also you have to fall in love with the process. If you’re doing it for any other reason you will have setbacks and you will give up. Fall in love with the process. Turn bad days or lazy days into bad workout days. Turn ene…
/r/TheRedPill26/02/19 11:33 PM
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Lol nope. Men just know money and status play a part
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 05:47 PM
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And I admire their honesty. Average people will listen to it and think “those whores!” But all women think the way they do to some extent
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 05:46 PM
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Obviously is
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 12:28 PM
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No, it isn’t. Round face, short, not sharp features, etc Jon Snow is the PERFECT example of women not knowing anything about their own attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 12:28 PM
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It’s a entertaining podcast that drips with Red Pill truths though
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 12:24 PM
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Taking it slow these days means date 3 lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 01:42 AM
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Men can sniff if a woman's a slut just as well as a woman can sniff if a guy is desperate/low self-esteem. Women can try to hide it, but there are tells. ​ Being too good at sex - especially early on - is a thing. If it's date 2 and she is giving an out of this world Blowie I will think just how many dicks has she sucked and lose attraction. ​ Women can sleep around and gain experience. That's not a bad thing. Just like beta men can apply red pill teachings. But they should always hide that side…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 01:37 AM
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Exactly. Look at him S1 of thrones or when he was casted. Women are crosswiring his status with his looks to make him more attractive. He really isnt
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 01:28 AM
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lol so funny to see women fail at logic
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 01:28 AM
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Yea - he is. Anyone with hollywood access to diet, haircut, clothes, and fitness would looksmax well. For him, that's not that great ​ ​ Look at him when he was casted for Game of Thrones. Chubby, ok face, short. The definition of average. Might be tough on your to strip him of status but if you apply logic to this you will know I am right.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 01:28 AM
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Absolutely. Short term fling vs relationship. ​ ​ Even then chemistry makes a girl more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/19 01:26 AM
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Lol dumb post on several levels
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 10:08 PM
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Not true at all. Jon Snow is the perfect example of fame helping him. He is VERY average in appearance
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 07:03 PM
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This is the most transparent blue pill attempt at trying to point out a potential double standard I’ve ever seen
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 07:02 PM
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This isn’t true at all lol know plenty of top men that will trade off on looks for personality
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 05:36 PM
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Overall pretty ridiculous. Personality matters as much as looks to get commitment I agree. But men prioritize a woman’s classiness, playfulness, and easy goingness over any equivalent “alpha” traits
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/19 05:29 PM
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Can be general about it. But I wouldnt show before and after pics. They will fear that you could always go back to that uggo
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 05:43 PM
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lol not that on the nose, but can tell attraction is diminished.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 05:42 PM
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Even if you’re Chad there can be a bigger Chad to steal yo girl
/r/TheRedPill24/02/19 01:50 PM
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Haha shit happened to me recently. Am no beta and never did that comfort stuff, but woman I invested a decent amount into left immediately for a guy she didn’t know but made more $$$ AWALT. If you think you have a filter for the “right type” of woman you’re wrong. They are all wired the same way and you are disposable
/r/TheRedPill24/02/19 01:49 PM
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One caveat - they will lose attraction if they discover you were not naturally that way
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 01:38 PM
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Lol not comparable to makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 01:34 PM
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I’ve blown enough relationships by letting the girl know I used to be overweight and now take diet/fitness very seriously to know to never bring it up
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/19 01:34 PM
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There is much more to it than lift weights and be confident
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 07:26 PM
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I don’t idolize trump. But he slays
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 07:10 PM
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Trump has had more experience in a weekend then a guy like you has had in a lifetime lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 04:48 PM
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Never seen that tall claim before or breadwinner claim. Any proof ?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 04:47 PM
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Lol this is one of the biggest trash posts I’ve ever seen
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/19 04:31 PM
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lmao it's not a placebo at all. These are drastic life changes it promotes. You couldnt be more wrong on that. ​ ​ But do agree you are right on the pounding hot girls thing. TRP could be far more ambitious but it really doesnt care much beyond "lift" and "try to bang 2x year olds". That isn't a fulfilling life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 11:38 PM
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Your name is appropriate
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 10:14 PM
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Lol you’re naive. Neggings origins are strictly from PUA
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 08:14 PM
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Yep. any girl with good relationship value would not have an issue with “Fuckboys” It shows bad judgement based on her taste in men, and her own dating prospects. Also a shit test to filter out men who don’t have the balls to try to fuck her early That being said these are low tier women I recommend you stay away from
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 08:12 PM
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He didn’t say it’s our biological natural state.just that it advances society as a whole. I’d argue he’s right
/r/TheRedPill22/02/19 06:58 PM
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Yes If applied correctly. It still means introducing dread, not being overly loving, going against wife’s wishes, etc which on the surface most can’t stomach
/r/TheRedPill22/02/19 06:57 PM
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If you think there’s a sizable PUA community that even knows what negging is in college then you’re an idiot
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:33 PM
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Uhm, yes basically at a biological level that’s true.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:25 PM
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A male 8 can be 5’10 but agree height helps
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 06:21 PM
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My story: always had a strong base (above 6’, smart, came from a well off enough family) but had no masculine presence when younger. So had low self esteem, didn’t lift until college, not much of a social life, etc. very low SMV growing up (no girlfriend until college. No kiss until college. Had a prom date but never went to any other dances). Because of that foundation I was able to have a high ceiling (good education, good job, afford cool experiences, nice clothes, look good once fit) that al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 04:28 PM
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Women don’t care about niceness at all as long as he isn’t a regular asshole with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 11:11 AM
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Oh there are TONS of examples. Thinking as a guy raised by a single mother the list could go on and on. personality matters most only dumb wome go for the jock types. Be nice and supportive/smart always be kind. Show affection. Things like flowers/I love you women want equality in a relationship. Get her opinion on everything don’t escalate everyone has a “the one” women will get tired of jerks and see you as the prize You are actually raised to want to be beta bux. A common mentality is “when t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 11:06 AM
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largest and hardest to get into sure makes sense
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 01:40 AM
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TRP doesnt help everyone. Maybe not even the majority. But those people have no one to blame but themselves, not TRP teachings
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 01:39 AM
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JP is red pilled. He doesn’t practice RP techniques but he knows how the game is played
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/19 12:28 AM
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Must have been a bottom tier bitch house
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 10:06 PM
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If someone truly successfully adopts TRP you wouldn’t know it. They don’t go around talking manosphere in real life. Weirdo neck beards do that. I’m red pilled and fuck holier than thou feminists all the time. Women respond well to masculine energy. They don’t respond well to the explanation of how attraction works
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 10:06 PM
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Yea one thing TRP misses the mark on is that all women are cheating whores while all men are loyal saints. I fully believe everyone has the capacity for cheating in them, but genders do it equally. If anything men do it a little more
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 12:36 PM
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Lmao true. Made out drunk once with a fat girl and she would call me years later. Dated and broke up with high tier women who moved on quicker
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/19 03:00 AM
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I’ve had women go very hot to cold before. Basically used as a placeholder when she was going through some shit, and then immediately went to someone else when she was on her feet. This was post-red pill too. I didn’t consider her a unicorn by any means but the complete 180 in behavior change at the first sign of a better option really hammered in AWALT
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 05:39 PM
2

Lmao no shit. This is the entire concept of the sub. It takes people who were lied to in life over blue pilled fantasies and turns them into alpha males. The fact you think this is some discovery would be like going over to ask men and realizing everyone there has a penis
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 12:50 PM
1

Nah, this isnt true. I'm red pilled but have seen confidence make average men get pretty attractive women.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 02:55 AM
1

Yep. And it's all the top posts. Then you see other upvoted shit like "ask women before you give them a hug" and such nonsense. Clearly it's full of low tier men
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/19 02:53 AM
37

Any guy who admits he is slightly overweight is more than slightly overweight
/r/TheRedPill19/02/19 05:10 PM
1

Even yesterday there was a post about how it’s wrong to date multiple people at once casually. The sub has no idea how dating works, and if you look at other threads it’s full of men with zero confidence or experience
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/19 04:57 PM
2

This exactly. It’s called lighthearted banter and as a guy who does it women LOVE it because for once men aren’t kissing the ground they walk on. Believe it or not women can handle themselves with this stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 11:35 PM
1

It works on everyone that doesn’t have a stick up their ass. It’s called banter
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 11:32 PM
9

LMAO ask men is hot garbage. No one there knows how to get laid and the ones that do get downvoted into oblivion
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 04:28 PM
2

Also will get contradicting fad focused advice
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/19 04:27 PM
0

Women need and thrive on emotional stimulus. If you cannot provide them it they will manufacture it themselves or search elsewhere
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/19 10:04 PM
4

Stronger isn’t always better though. And never takes study as pure fact
/r/TheRedPill16/02/19 10:06 PM
1

TRP is all about being your own man and not bending over backwards for ANYONE. Yes, women are the focus here. But TRP also is against being a wage slave bitch and prioritizes entrepreneurship. TRP also is against things like religion and military service. In those you are indoctrinated to be a tool for others instead of yourself Not saying things like the military can’t help you out - it certainly can. But like getting in a LTR recognize your disposability
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 09:55 PM
11

Leanness and strength don’t go hand and hand
/r/TheRedPill16/02/19 07:50 PM
15

Eh disagree. I lift and power lifters are NOT desirable by women. I’m talking the men built like a tree stump and can’t scratch their back. That said they still get puss, but it’s not what I would call desirable
/r/TheRedPill16/02/19 07:49 PM
35

Yep, a guy can lose body fat % and appear much more stronger. Also women and some men can think someone with visible muscle definition is stronger than a bigger guy with higher body fat %
/r/TheRedPill16/02/19 07:48 PM
23

They don’t want the guy on the magazines that clearly is tanned, dehydrated, and full pump + steroids. They also don’t want the power lifter with a gut They want muscles and proportion
/r/TheRedPill16/02/19 07:48 PM
1

Nope. This describes people who (shocker) actually listen to and believe things women say
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 07:17 PM
2

That’s a really good take. If it doesn’t benefit her or the offspring it will upset her
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 07:16 PM
1

Any man who thinks women want true equality in a relationship hasn’t had success with women, period. Even the most staunch Feminists I know still want to be led. Women want respect in a relationship. But not equality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 07:15 PM
1

Thing is all men aren’t perfect. We may not all have this level trauma of course. But no man is the perfect bastion of masculinity women wanf
/r/TheRedPill16/02/19 02:56 AM
1

So true lads. The fact she asked about it after a week and a half of bad sex is pathetic. Anything could cause that (stress at work, family stuff, etc) Hell it doesn’t even take a trauma like that for a woman to lose respect. Women build up this image of you and if you break from it they move on. I’m jacked now but used to be fat years ago, whenever I share this women they got turned off so stopped doing it. Similarly, sharing family problems is a big no I would say it’s a relief the comments ca…
/r/TheRedPill16/02/19 02:52 AM
1

Hence, an intellect who can talk with them. But not someone who nags all the time or will participate in a women’s march
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/19 02:24 AM
1

Lol at using a celebrity example
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 09:22 PM
4

Yep. I always laugh at TRPers and others who say looks is everything. Clearly they don’t operate among true top LTR type men. These guys have no problem courting a ton of attractive women. So from there they can be selective about other areas
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 09:20 PM
6

Those that say “be hot” are not high value themselves. Many men think CEOs will LTR a waitress if she’s hot enough. They won’t. Will they sleep with them? Sure. But not marry. As a high value guy myself who knows a decent amount of others (elite private school educated, top 10% salary jobs, good families, in physical shape) what we look for is below: intelligence, not income - she doesn’t have to be a high finance professional, banker, lawyer, etc. but she does have to be smart which is correlat…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 09:16 PM
4

Haha yep. Men on average do not lose interest - it’s called oneitis for a reason. In my experience women can move on much easier
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 07:33 PM
4

Case and point I’m a guy who wants multiple kids. At 28 I am vetting every girl for marriage, but am still not panicking about it given that I can reasonably reproduce into my late 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 07:32 PM
6

This is true. A jackedguy with an ugly face will almost always be hot. Men would rather a pretty face with a girl who doesn’t workout than a fit girl who is ugly
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 07:31 PM
2

I get that. Women require much more from men than vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/19 06:26 PM
1

When did I say one would?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 08:15 PM
7

Stacey isn’t on reddit, period. Attractive popular social girls by and large don’t post on debate sites like this one. Not saying every girl Here is ugly, but the readership skews that way
/r/TheRedPill14/02/19 08:14 PM
2

240 at that height is huge
/r/TheRedPill14/02/19 08:10 PM
6

Boxing and mma don’t replace motorcycle lmao Those hobbies are the same benefit as lifting.
/r/TheRedPill14/02/19 04:53 PM
6

Trojan horse incoming for how monogamy benefits men and women should be encouraged to have multiple partners
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/19 04:47 PM
8

Lol at considering a girl with this many warning signs for an LTR. Guess the red pill is right about women riding the CC and looking for a safe guy afterwards. Question is how long can she keep this “new her” up.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 08:55 PM
0

Lol no. I take it you’re a low value guy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 07:09 PM
1

The benefits aren’t comparable. To get a decent relationship and sex a man has to be top 20%, a woman doesn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 07:09 PM
1

Have a hard time picturing that
/r/TheRedPill13/02/19 04:59 PM
0

Yes, also true. Men are much more honest and blunt about what they want most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 04:58 PM
1

Easily find them yes. A homeless woman could easily find a relationship of sex. But with a man she finds attractive? Likely not
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 04:54 PM
23

Make no mistake, climate change is as well.whatever your feelings are about it -the left fully intends to use it to take over the private sector
/r/TheRedPill13/02/19 04:49 PM
1

Even if she’s attractive that inexperience will mean she’s likely bad in bed, bad at kissing, has attachment issues, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 03:23 PM
1

A woman with zero experience at 30 is a red flag to any mid-high tier man with standards. If a girls pretty enough he won’t care though. I’m sure the same can apply for men
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 03:22 PM
1

Yep. 9s and 10s will even date chubby guys if they are on point in other areas. Fitness helps and men should take it seriously, but height matters much more
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 01:03 PM
1

You’re most likely projecting. A tall guy with great job and nice car = successful dream boat. Short guy with those things = Napoleon complex
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 01:02 PM
1

All things equal (status, charisma, approach) the 6’0 guy wins. When you say “out of shape” I’m thinking dad bod maybe plus a few pounds. If he has a very noticeable gut, then no But height can hide a lot of chubbiness
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 01:00 PM
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By definition he has to be if he can also get a 9
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 11:26 AM
1

“Enlightened” lol More like “I’m a man who isn’t high enough value to lock down better. So I’m going to convince myself I don’t want better”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 11:25 AM
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There have already been articles on this in nations like England, Norway, etc. Women basically just get cats and live alone lol
/r/TheRedPill13/02/19 01:59 AM
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I know women like this right now. Late 20s, still in the 'travel the world, not ready to settle down' phase. Dont even consider a relationship with anyone stable. Have no idea what's approaching
/r/TheRedPill13/02/19 12:36 AM
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Realize you’re no better than women or the lie. Be honest with yourself. You’re only interested in that girls stupid random hobby because she’s cute. You only think she’s funny because she’s cute. Her tits and ass mean more to you than her personality We aren’t better as men. We are different, but still animals
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 08:26 PM
3

Can we change it to heart thinks with oneitis, dick thinks short term please me, and brain thinks red pill thoughts?
/r/TheRedPill12/02/19 08:25 PM
3

Frame means nothing when she’s in a different country mate. That’s why you have a backup plan and are never reliant on her
/r/TheRedPill12/02/19 08:22 PM
3

Yep, if she pulled this card guarantee she hasn’t spent one second thinking of her ex
/r/TheRedPill12/02/19 06:57 PM
2

My friend thinking with your dick overrides the brain we’ve all been there
/r/TheRedPill12/02/19 06:52 PM
3

Women often don’t even bang locals abroad. They bang other westerners traveling
/r/TheRedPill12/02/19 06:42 PM
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Also they can script whatever story they want in their heads. Women love emotions and how exotic it is. Banging Greg the accountant back home or some random dude (usually another Western European or American) abroad is just soooo magical
/r/TheRedPill12/02/19 06:41 PM
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Travel does make one interesting though. Problem is to women travel is going to European clubs until 3am and not actually meeting new cultures. But yea, travel girls are the worst.
/r/TheRedPill12/02/19 06:31 PM
1

“Women not being selfish enough” and there it is. Mental gymnastics that make her the victim and give her all the justification she needs
/r/TheRedPill12/02/19 06:30 PM
0

True. But at a certain point you can’t wait any longer and reasonable women won’t date up too much in age. I’d say peak dating age for women is 24-27, after that you start getting a lot of defects in the batch. If you’re 38 and dating a 24 year old odds are she’s not that normal
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 04:08 PM
1

Haha I’m somewhat similar. I can pull very attractive women from apps, and the “warm” environment makes it so much easier
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 04:02 PM
1

I don’t go out on any task looking to pickup women. That should never be the objective unless you want to deal with frustration I do go out to talk to people/strangers, interact with community, etc. if I’m at a coffee shop, a workout class, a grocery store and there’s an opening (clear ‘IOI’) then I don’t mind starting a conversation and trying to get a number. But this isn’t “oh there’s a pretty girl in the room time to talk to her” and more “I’ve talked to the cashier about her hair, this olde…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 04:01 PM
-1

not a fact at all. Culturally someone from 1984 is not a millennial
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 12:55 AM
8

Even if men peak at 35 the best women will be gone by 30. Really anyone left has one issue or another
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/19 12:16 AM
2

I disagree. Most super millennial people I know are early 90s
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 09:04 PM
3

A lot of differences. Dating apps today turned dating on it’s head - probably the biggest market shock to dating since accessible birth control. Things like “ghosting” or dating multiple people for several months in a row sound abhorrent to older generations but are standard practice now.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 09:03 PM
1

Most political commentary is similar as well. Doesn’t require any knowledge of policy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 06:15 PM
1

Weak or inexperienced men listen to them though. Just look at the beta shmucks on ask men here.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 03:20 PM
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Yep. You’ll see betas and women say “we are just like men, treat us the same way”. Lol no. Yes you are like men in that you aren’t perfect. But there’s a reason shit like locker room talk and banter exists
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 03:17 PM
5

Sure that’s red pill, but thinking men and women are the same is blue pill
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 03:15 PM
4

Or a guy who is in a failing band for a living. Or a broke gym rat. Many examples
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 02:49 AM
2

Women can have RMV above their SMV. But yea on average it’s other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/19 12:48 AM
-1

The sexual harassment stuff is another shit test to filter out weak men. If you are approaching correctly you will never have to worry about this. Men in the manosphere use it as an excuse to not approach. They are just pussies
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 05:45 PM
2

I think it’s less to do with that and more child rearing along with society rewarding men at the top more than women. A woman’s value hardly comes from her resource procurement
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 05:35 PM
4

women can looksmax. But (a i stated this in another post as well) women can be exceptionally attractive just by being thin, not even fit. Guys dont have that option to nearly the same extent
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:45 AM
4

This. It's harder for women to become top 20% if she was born average because her value is ball and chained to her looks BUT there is much less of a reason for a woman to be top 20%. ​ ​
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:42 AM
2

Men can work hard to become good looking. Women dont have nearly as much mobility
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:40 AM
7

Nope. Cant save a busted face.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:39 AM
1

Lmao at thinking being good looking, funny, and confident is easy in a world where no one gives you the self esteem boosts similar to what women receive. ​ ​ But part of RP philosophy is that women have inherent value, men do not. Men can build their value though to surpass a womans, while women are much more limited. So it depends on a woman. An average guy can become top 20% far easier than an average woman can become top 20%. A significant portion of a womans value is from her face alone. I k…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 01:39 AM
1

I've also seen marathon runners with absolute schlub bodies. Running is a womans game. Sure, it beats doing nothing if you're a guy but in terms of commanding respect from men and attraction from women running WILL NOT help you one bit
/r/TheRedPill10/02/19 12:56 AM
1

jump rope is better on the abdominal as well, and takes much less time. ​ As someone who lifts the only cardio i need are from 2-3 times a week strength classes at fitness studios. This isnt even that much cardio but stuff like burpees and mountian clmbers is more than enough for me
/r/TheRedPill10/02/19 12:54 AM
3

the wall remains undefeated haha love it.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/19 12:48 AM
3

lmao at ever thinking you can be 100% chad all the time, especially in a relationship.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/19 12:47 AM
4

Good perspective. Especially the 'shes not yours' component.
/r/TheRedPill10/02/19 12:44 AM
2

Idk I've backpacked abroad and yes MOST women in their 20s are 'finding themselves' and any strange dick they can see. But man there are some weirdo girls that are hardcore into the backpacking scene. ​ ​ But yep. Overall as a rule of thumb if you are dating someone and they go on a trip then you should be included in the invite. If you are dating someone for a year and her and her girl friends are going to europe for two weeks then just end it. Im not anti dating, but if you really like someone…
/r/TheRedPill10/02/19 12:44 AM
2

Love em but a lot of my friends are idiot "lets go to buffalo wild wings and drink beer and watch football and anything else is gay" type
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 12:07 AM
1

No matter what there will be instability in a relationship. Almost always there is a reacher and a settler. Just have to depend on the character of the other person to not wield that power against you
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/19 12:03 AM
2

thank god for this. I have guy friends that annoy me to hell. "You are eating fish? try eating something manlier". Ok dumbass there is more protein in this than in your fucking microwave dinner
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 11:58 PM
2

Yea as most successful RPers I went from gross to hot as well. It’s still tough to get in that mindset though. Growing up I never worked out, had zero style, was awkward, shit haircut, no hobbies, etc - didn’t start turning that around until my 20s The shit you can get away with once you get good looking is ridiculous. Teasing/flirting/insults, and women for the most part love it. Dating becomes easy in terms of getting what you want. So much so that you prioritize stuff like sex a lot less. If …
/r/askTRP09/02/19 12:42 PM
2

Dating apps are a tell. Get bumble hinge tinder. Men in general do so bad on these things that if you get enough traction to easily schedule a date a night with decent looking women then you’re attractive. My guy friends will sometimes compare results: below average looking chubby friend. Literally 2 matches in like 4 months tall but not as attractive friend, as well as short but pretty attractive friend - something like 25-30 matches each in 4 months. I’d say these guys are definitely above ave…
/r/askTRP09/02/19 12:37 PM
15

Check for the Adam’s apple
/r/askTRP09/02/19 12:30 PM
1

As a guy in my late 20s? Not enough money in the world. 8 years ago tho and I’d do it for free
/r/PurplePillDebate08/02/19 02:54 AM
2

Getting. A woman. Flowers. On a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 08:16 PM
3

Eh one on one though?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 08:15 PM
3

This is a good rule. If I’m in a relationship and meet a cute girl I’m not going to engage in frequent banter, texting, inside jokes, etc you’re just planting the seeds for feelings to grow
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 08:15 PM
4

Great post. It’s why I also don’t think men and women can be “true” friends at a 100% absolute platonic level. And by true friends I mean someone you help move, go on trips with, get dinner with, hang out at their house. Not a friend from work or group setting type stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 08:14 PM
13

The thing that red pill and blue pill disagree on is what acting like a loser entails. To blue pill it means getting fat and playing video games all day. Red pill extends this definition to saying I love you too much or employing the happy wife happy life model - things that men were raised to think women want
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 08:11 PM
1

Anyone in a fraternity or a school president is well above the median
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:50 PM
2

Literally anything. College parties, adulthood socials, going to bars with a large group, coed organizations. You ask any woman at a bar and she likely has a decent sized group of women and guy friends to do stuff with. Average guys don’t. They have much smaller social circles plain and simple
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:50 PM
1

You have no way of knowing that though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:48 PM
1

Oh and as an additional comment in no way do I think you (women) have it so much better. I don’t do that pissing contest. There are pros and cons to both gender. In terms of making friends I do think on average women have it easier though
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:46 PM
1

It’s as much value as men get for being told to play with science toys instead of dolls. Women on average are much better socialized than men. It might not matter to you, but go to subs like forever alone and see what the bottom quartile of men look like
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:44 PM
1

Lol whatever you tell yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:43 PM
1

Define hard part. If you’re attractive 80% of women might want to be with you. But only 1/10 or so might be compatible
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:42 PM
2

Talking post elementary lol And odds are your boyfriend is above average
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:42 PM
1

Think I’ll do neither
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:41 PM
1

That’s sad but tactical choice. And then she says your stubborn for not going. Fact is you go, end up sucking - so can laugh it off and joke about it. Her friends will still value you slightly less, and god forbid there’s another guy there she can now compare you too. In my opinion if you try something new it’s best if she’s new at it too so you can suck together, and also in an environment where she won’t get hit on by clearly superior dudes. Sounds paranoid but I had something similar happen t…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:40 PM
1

We are the danger!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:36 PM
2

So yes, 17.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:35 PM
1

Testosterone my friend. Also men are socially judged and valued for their ability to defend and win confrontations. Women aren’t
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:35 PM
1

No but I size other men up all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:34 PM
1

So like I said guys way above the median
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:33 PM
2

What? You misinterpreted everything I said. Men do things, plan social events, trips/parties/coed sports teams/ etc with boinking desire driving the bus. I’m not talking about some girl brunch. I’ve seen it in both sides as an average guy and someone who built up social worth. A lot of women can get by socially by just existing and getting invited to stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:32 PM
1

It’s more if you include SAHM too, but I’m not going to include prostitution. Guess strippers can tho
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:30 PM
4

Lol at including white in this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:26 PM
14

Yes. This is called maturity. No real man engages in a “woe is me and my life” pissing contest. There are unique aspects of both genders that suck. Whichever one sucks more is entirely dependent on your goals in life. Start-up entrepreneur Susie likely would have a easier life if she had a Penis between her legs. Socially awkward Samuel would likely be happier if he was born with tits. There is no “it’s always better to be x gender all the time” If you live in the west in this day and age your f…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/19 04:25 PM
11

Lmao I posted this yesterday and now there’s a thread about it. Women get in less fights because they are more careful? Men are more dangerous and assertive? Whoa - it’s like biology actually makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 06:55 PM
10

Women, even average women, have much more built in social worth than their comparable guy from a looks standpoint. This means likely being more socialized when younger, getting treated better, having more friends, getting party invites, more confidence, etc. The top 5% of women can make a LIVING off looks but the top 50% (maybe more) when young get a ton of benefit from it. You know what the average median girl in college is doing on a Friday night? Fielding texts from multiple friends, guys and…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 04:07 PM
1

For a relationship? It’s a baseline just to get in honey. Once there it’s about compatibility
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 04:03 PM
3

That’s the stakes. Usually women who do that are flirting
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 04:02 PM
4

Lol very aspergers text
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 04:02 PM
1

Yep that’s a good take. What sucks about it is I love trying new things. But it means sucking at something and being bad at it initially. This can also hurt her impression of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 04:01 PM
3

Nice biased studies. Not indicative of real life tho
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 04:00 PM
2

Lmao what are you like 17? No it doesn’t. Especially if the setting doesn’t involve him playing. If he makes money off it - sure. But most don’t and most have a pretty low to average smv when not being escalated from a show
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:59 PM
0

Sounds like the liberal movement - no?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:57 PM
8

Bullshit. Case in point look at what girls look like at an all girls high school vs mixed. Yea, looking good is “for them”. Nope. At a deep level everything is about building yourself up in some way possible. If it makes you feel better men do this too. Guys lift weights “for themselves” but in reality it’s all about sex
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:54 PM
1

Lol keep coping with yourself. No one wants to be alone. Very few (man or woman) can HONESTLY be alone and be completely fine with it. These people of either gender are absolute go getters The rest are just kidding themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:51 PM
13

Good post but your edit is dead wrong. Saying women don’t get freebies for existing is like saying there’s no difference in how a cop treats a black vs a white teenager. Clearly spoken from lack of empathy to both sides Will agree on your point about men looking for a cook and clean housewife though. I know a ton of guys who focus on video games, espn, or other dumb shit and let their relationships fall to the wayside. I would also add that the average guy you’re meeting shouldn’t be as big as l…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 03:50 PM
2

Yep women wanting funny men is mostly bullshit. I know a ton of funny guys and guys who are complete duds, both have similar success with women. In fact the ones who rely on humor the most often do the worst If she’s into you she will find a lot of your dumb comments and jokes humorous
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 11:46 AM
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Assertiveness - not the same as confidence. Someone that has a backbone, can put her and others in their place when needed. Get shit done Decisiveness - women want someone to make the majority of decisions for them. Actually most men want this too. Majority of people are way too indecisive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 11:43 AM
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You’re a dumbass taking it out of context. Women are attracted to the alpha of the situation. So yea you’d win after a concert and lose at a football game But keep feeling good about yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 02:18 AM
1

Someone’s inexperienced
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 02:17 AM
1

Lol at using a celebrity. Dumbass
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 02:17 AM
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except those things all help to be a woman more. Sooooo nice tey
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 02:16 AM
1

I try not to bring it up so much but in today’s political climate the bait is too tempting. I usually strip back the wording a lot and focus on “its biology, just makes sense” or “think about what cavemen did” when talking red pill truths. Am horrified that someone will find out that I post here so really try to strip a lot of the language out
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:22 AM
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Women perceive more danger, men face more danger.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:20 AM
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Most women have beauty privilege. Only 10-20% of men do
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:18 AM
45

That creepy guy you passed on the way to work who said “hey beautiful” or “nice skirt”? Yea, that guy sucks - but that’s more positive reinforcement about appearance than an average guy will get in a year. Also, you have built in social worth. We don’t. Learned this in college where any girl can go to any party solely because she has a vagina. Majority of guys in college end up spending their weekend nights playing xbox. This is just one example. The average guy has much less positive social exp…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/19 12:17 AM
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If you are at a big school and aren’t Greek then your party sucks, hate to break it to ya.
/r/TheRedPill05/02/19 08:18 PM
2

Yep I think values and hobbies are notably different A value can be fitness. Hobbies can be sports, running, biking, etc. I want a woman who values fitness, I care less about her means to doing it Other values of importance: intelligence. I don’t care if she’s liberal or conservative, but how open is her mind on those subjects. Finances Sense of humor Willingness to try new things Religion, or lack there of. I’m atheist and if she was raised or is Jewish Christian etc don’t care unless it’s a ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 07:09 PM
3

Don’t forget places like hooters
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 06:42 PM
1

one guy on here? Can’t say for certain. Reddit in general? Lmao don’t even want to give that a response
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 04:17 PM
1

Believe whatever you want. It’s been confirmed by the apps themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 04:16 PM
1

For getting a date or initial interest? Sure, attraction is everything. For a relationship? Lmao no, attraction almost doesn’t matter at all and it becomes compatibility
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 04:11 PM
3

Is an example of what your saying is if you’re into power lifting but average at it, and she’s into marathon running but also average at it, then you have a better shot of making it work than if you BOTH were into marathon running but average at it, because she would go for the best guy who can run marathons well. However by doing a different event, especially one where she has less visibility into the heirarchy, you can get away with not being “the best”. Am I interpreting that correctly?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 03:56 PM
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If red pill has taught me anything though, and I’ve seen this first hand, it’s that women are generally attracted to the same guy (within socio-economic classes). The 5’8 guy who can play a guitar will still lose to 6’3 built guy regardless of her interests. Now it might give the 5’8 guy a shot when he previously wouldn’t, but all different women respond to the same thing
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 03:50 PM
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Yea it really means jack shit and it goes both ways. The nerdy girl who doesn’t care about sports will still want the athletic jock. The athletic jock will want the hottest girl regardless of if she’s a cheerleader or band student There are definitely “boosts” to being interested and good at the same things. But men and women generally covet the same people with some minor differences based on preference
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 03:44 PM
0

Yep as a high value guy can confirm this. You only see the low value women if you swipe thru everyone else (see this in smaller cities)
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 01:59 AM
0

People approach less in person now I'm sure, but women will always be up for it. No one wants the way they met their SO to be from an app. Some magical BS involving a grocery store, dance class, or whatever is much cuter
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 01:58 AM
1

On reddit? yea absolutely
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/19 12:54 AM
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It’s subconscious comfort tests. You’ll see stuff like “don’t go to the gym, let’s just cuddle” or “cooking salmon again? Let’s order a pizza”, or her buying you dorky AF clothes, She isn’t testing you. She’s trying to tame the lion so it doesn’t leave her. She doesn’t realize if she does this too much with no pushback she will end up with a fat schlub husband and just leave him
/r/MarriedRedPill04/02/19 08:24 PM
1

I love the bullet about everything being your fault. If you blame others for the situation (can be anything, your boss, traffic, weather, your wife) it just shows that you are fucking powerless and go wherever the wind takes you. Everything is your fault. Yes it’s scary, but god damn it’s also powerful
/r/MarriedRedPill04/02/19 08:19 PM
1

The vneck truly is the way to go, it’s incredible how much difference the same shirt can make over a crew neck. Growing up in the south I always thought going out attire should be a fancy button down (polo, brooks brothers) and there is absolutely room for those kind of shirts - but they signal beta bucks much more than a fitted v neck on a muscular body
/r/MarriedRedPill04/02/19 08:14 PM
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Eh If your girl is about to go out with her friends and is dressed sexily then you will want her to put some layers on
/r/MarriedRedPill04/02/19 08:00 PM
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I will say some may be fashion shit tests but men, by in large, don’t know how to fucking dress worth a damn. Have some self respect and look decent wherever you go (mall, grocery store, park, etc). Your personal sense of style should be so strong that you should chuckle at any attempt of a woman to dress you better This is another case of blame women but you have no one to blame but yourselves. I know so many dudes whose going to the bar attire will be a Green Bay packers t shirt, or cargo shor…
/r/MarriedRedPill04/02/19 07:58 PM
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Lol keep buying the narrative loser
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 07:51 PM
0

Lmao no, my own standards are far superior to the average shmuck here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 07:50 PM
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Any average* woman too for fucks sake. I’d say a woman who is a 4/10 on dating apps gets the same amount of attention as a 9/10 male. It’s insane
/r/TheRedPill04/02/19 07:49 PM
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What if you can get 7s and 8s online as a guy and use online dating for an ego trip?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 05:46 PM
1

Generational wealth that he multiplied lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 04:16 PM
2

Lol you clearly live in a red pill forum and not the real world. Men with high status absolutely do fucking care if their wife is a waitress or not. If you don’t then hate to break it to ya your smv isn’t that high
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 04:16 PM
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Eh women approach in their own way. They aren’t nearly as direct as men
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 04:13 PM
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You know how I know you’re a loser whose never accomplished anything? You think failing in business is a negative about you. He’s a net billionaire built on multiple failures and successes. No one who has done anything relevant in life hasn’t failed multiple times. That’s a lesson you need to learn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/19 01:38 AM
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Looking good is all about being fit and having clothes that fit. A $3 vneck will look better on a guy if it fits well than a $90 brooks brothers shirt
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 09:20 PM
5

Do you believe in the theory that every relationship has a reacher and settler then? I don’t disagree with the above, but as a man if im more fit, put together, AND wealthier than a woman then that means I’m settling and need to look in a higher league. You can’t be better than your partner in every single way and still be satisfied in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 09:19 PM
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I’m a dude and love validation from dating apps. Hundreds of attractive women matching with you that I have no intention of ever going on a date with? Awesome
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 06:05 PM
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Long term maybe. But short term dating is ALL men. We drive the bus for the first few months. First date, first kiss, second date, first time having sex, etc all of that doesn’t happen unless the guy escalates 9 times out of 10
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:58 PM
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Women at least have built in social value which men don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:57 PM
3

Those issues are far more perceived than real. “Watch my purse”, “watch my drink”, etc. are laughable in terms of real risk involved
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:56 PM
3

Lol no
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/19 05:44 PM
1

Case and point there is nothing even remotely close to scale as incel groups or forever alone groups for women as there are for men. Yes you deal with more creeps but everyone is significantly nicer to women in a way vast majority of men will never comprehend
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/19 11:20 PM
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Not only is it risk seeking it shows propensity towards short term thinking over long term
/r/TheRedPill01/02/19 10:13 PM
1

True. I would say both get their worldview hand fed to them and also lack dirty real life experience
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/19 10:02 PM
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Nope. Works on all women. Feminists, devout Christians, doctors, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 06:50 PM
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True, but women also have a much more idealistic view of the world because they are treated much more kindly than men growing up. I doubt they realize how much sex drives this
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 06:15 PM
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This is so sad but true. People hate playing “games” with texting frequency, commitment, etc. but so many of my relationships fell apart in the past because I actually started to invest in her instead of treat her like shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 06:08 PM
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Fair enough. Every high school will have a lot of people try out for the football team or QB. Only one gets that title and thus all the reward
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 03:41 PM
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It actually isn’t right for the most part. Red pill teaches you anything its that all women want the alpha guy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 03:19 PM
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Always wondered if women know when a man is into them vs legit thinking they are just friends
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 03:18 PM
4

As a red piller I’ll critique my own pill. Too often I see TRPers (usually noobs, Mgtow dweebs, or anger phasers) act like women are animals devoid of thought and shackled to biological impulses. Well, of course that’s true. But men are too. We are no different than women, just the way it manifests itself is different. Long term red pillers appreciate women and understand how society works. Sure they dont live up to the fairytale they were raised with but that shortcoming isn’t their fault anymo…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/19 04:10 AM
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think I'll pass
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 10:55 PM
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I wouldnt even sleep with a strangers girlfriend/wife.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/19 10:46 PM
1

lol that ideal male face isn't 'feminine' and isnt remotely a baby face.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 05:26 PM
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You sound young/inexperienced. Baby face is a killer if you're an adult. Period.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 06:03 AM
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Not only that but they will absolutely try stabbing you in the back like a weasel as well
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/19 05:56 AM
1

The truth often is
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/19 11:07 PM
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I'm old school RP - stumbled upon the sub maybe 5 years ago. Not there enough to speak for the new batch. I hate people, especially men, that complain. So seeing it drift towards incels or other people bitch about their lives is pretty sad. If they are cut out for it they will change their lives for the better. If they aren't they won't. Not my problem either way
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 01:24 PM
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Here's another tip for your post-transformation from a seasoned vet such as myself. You will have the inclination to brag or at least talk about your life changes. When with a woman you like and she seems interested in you, a part of you will want to say "I used to be fat" or "I was super nerdy". Don't. I've been with numerous women the last few years and have used this card on a couple, especially as I fell back into the "she likes me for me, not for what I built" trap. Model tier women, colleg…
/r/TheRedPill26/01/19 01:20 PM
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Lol come on. People don't like their beliefs challenged. They hate difficult truths. Access to gyms and healthy food/diet info has never been easier yet majority of our population are fat fucks. Similarly, majority of people are religious solely adhering to whatever their mommy and daddy told them to believe in when they were 4. Not everyone is cut out for it. People, by in large, are very weak individuals
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 01:12 PM
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Lol beta male. No you apologize if you're in the wrong. Not to appeal some emotional cunt
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/19 04:06 AM
2

The amount of autism here has gotten pretty high
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/19 10:59 PM
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Like you would know lol we don't wear flashing red signs saying "red piller".
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/19 04:44 AM
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Well known quote in medical community. As a woman becomes a doctor her dating pool shrinks. As a man becomes a doctor his dating pool grows. ​ Not only do these uber successful women types have traits that men dont find appealing - they also have higher expectations. The entitlement corporate women have is absurd. Some will get lucky and find a great guy, but many wont - hit 30 - and be fucked. see it all the time
/r/TheRedPill23/01/19 01:30 AM
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Those men usually are just to save face or for appearances. Especially in those coastal bubbles
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 05:34 PM
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It's fun to laugh at idiots what can I say
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 05:33 PM
1

Nah, we laugh at it along with our high SMV women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 02:29 AM
0

In all honesty, I've hardly ever encountered a thin women who supported feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 02:29 AM
1

Nah, dont feel like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 12:19 AM
1

Nope. You just are bad with money
/r/PurplePillDebate22/01/19 12:18 AM
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Hypergamy will kick in though and once she's at that job the guy with a similar job is no longer attractive to her. It's the slightly older boss. See it all the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 09:08 PM
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Yep. Only someone who is deeply religious or an absolute low SMV beta would wait until relationship for sex
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 09:06 PM
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That's median HOUSEHOLD income too
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 09:06 PM
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Uhm what? Barely making it? I made less than that and lived in the 3rd biggest city in the country early in my 20s and was living comfortably
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 09:05 PM
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Lol at waiting for sex until marriage or a relationship. That is absurd, and no it isn't "good" it's stupid. No wonder you don't know many men like that, any guy who meets that criteria hopefully would have the self respect to not put up with such nonsense. And any man who would put up with such nonsense is either very low value and thus has no leverage, or is deeply religious and thus not likely to be in a urban area
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 09:04 PM
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Not really. If you want to raise a family then marriage is still best bet
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 09:01 PM
1

That's pretty pathetic tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 04:38 PM
1

Tough enough to stand on my own at least
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 04:38 PM
0

lol I've been on the red pill for years dumbass
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 04:38 PM
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No they don't. But men do believe that approaching women makes them creepy. Women will always welcome an approach done right
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/19 03:40 PM
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Me not are honest in what they find attractive, women arent. So there are far less red pill opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/19 06:32 PM
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Again, never said there was one
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 10:58 PM
1

Ive turned my life around where I am chad. Sucks you dont have the same agency or motivation. Oh well, for there to be winner there must also be losers too
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 10:57 PM
1

haha look at this beta bitch
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 10:57 PM
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whatever makes you feel better toots
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 10:56 PM
1

I was tall but put little effort into appearance outside of that, so the marble slab was there with gym, haircut, and clothes
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 10:55 PM
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Dont slurp off Rollo like yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 10:54 PM
0

Nah, I was probably a 3 or 4 growing up and am a solid 8 now
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 09:14 PM
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True but it can turn guys into 8s
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 09:14 PM
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Dating apps is a good way to determine pure SMV. Guys that rely on things other than raw looks usually fair better in real world. There's subs like true rate me on Reddit that are pretty fair. You have to be careful about posting to certain subs though, many will blow smoke up your ass instead of giving you the truth. As for your pic - I'd say the outfit is hurting more than helping. Nice face, could be above average if you made adjustments to look more western
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 09:13 PM
1

Anyone I've ever heard use the term Happy Wife Happy Life also have heard complain about not getting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 02:23 PM
7

Once you internalize the red pill you become chad. The difference between chad and a successful red piller isn't biology. It's that chad likely came from a place with good masculine role models in terms of attracting women while red pullers didn't. That's it
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 02:16 PM
3

Kind of reacher/settler theory. Do you think every relationship has one? Or at least one person who is more interested than the other?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 02:14 PM
0

lmao I've been Red Pill long before you kiddo
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:04 AM
1

Quoting other people is beta, be your own damn man
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:03 AM
0

You da beta boi
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:03 AM
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I didnt say it wasnt
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 05:02 AM
1

Yep, and the actions of good or nice guys isn't to date bad girls lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 05:15 PM
1

The nice girl act only backfires if it's just that - an act. And usually the only ones who will strip it from them are other women.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 05:14 PM
3

Yep. Red pill has led me to so much success with women but it's sad knowing what works and what doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:34 PM
6

Yea it's called tall and being a gym rat. I can eat 3,500 calories at maintenance. Stuffing your face with nitritious food all day isn't easy
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:32 PM
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Blame biology or society or whatever but fact is men are more honest about what they want than women when it comes to dating. So yep, no need for a women's red pill
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:31 PM
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Oh I agree to that. Otherwise Archie Manning having 2 NFL QB sons would be an absurd stastical outlier. But if you went from thin and meek to jacked your offspring won't be thin losers. They will likely be strong themselves based on your parenting
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:30 PM
-2

Marriage isn't blue pill lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:26 PM
3

And here we go with shaming men for working on themselves. Good on you lad
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:24 PM
2

This exactly. I posted there regularly a few years back, but now only go back every once in a while to provide content. If you stat in the red pill regularly you've failed. Once you understand how it all works there's no point to stay except for mental masturbation or to whine
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:23 PM
2

The red pill isn't a sub that you are meant to stay at forever. Once you internalize it there's no point to go back other than to teach.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:21 PM
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It's because once you take the red pill and go from a 3 to a 7 or an 8 you realize just how shallow women (and if you are wise you'd extend this to all people) are. Have to understand that average men don't find the red pill. It's literally the people, like myself, that went their adolescence never having a girlfriend, receiving pity, not going on dates, being laughed at, etc. sometimes you have men find it who had their heart broken multiple times despite doing everything right. I'd also say th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:20 PM
2

They call it farmer hands for a reason too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:25 AM
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There is pretty weak evidence to that logic though. Yes genes are a thing but anyone who is strong got there from sheer will
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:22 AM
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I'd go a step further and say it's impossible for a woman to have noticeable bicep muscles unless she s following a specific diet/lift program
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:21 AM
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Harder for women to be skinny sure, harder for women to be skinny than men to be muscular not a freaking chance
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:18 AM
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Oh it's ridiculous. I've had the debate with women and soy boy men before - that it is far easier to lose weight than gain muscle mass and for women to reach ideal body it takes much less effort. ​ Losing weight is easy. Gaining good weight is very difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:17 AM
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That's actually a secret about the red pill. We dont WANT it to be right. But it's the reality we must work with
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:08 AM
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I just like in this day in age I can engage with people who have completely different views than I do and it not be a shit show scream at each other fest. I'm Red Pill and will likely forever stand by those core views - but I'm sure some of them have been softened through debate here
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/19 03:07 AM
4

Saying people don't settle is completely wrong. You are assuming that everyone dates their social match. That's a lie. Both genders do settle
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:36 PM
1

I think you can settle at any age. It really has to do with how much you weigh being alone and your confidences of attracting a mate in the future. There are biological factors in play if you have certain life goals - I.e. A family, that may force your hand. This is late 20s for women, early to mid 30s for men, give or take. As for traits - you should focus on long term relationship pieces and settle on things like income/looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:36 PM
5

Women who don't weightlift (vast majority of women) have no comprehension of strength. They will think a guy with smallish but noticeable muscles is likely stronger than a power lifter with a barrel sized body. Similarly, when men can brag about raw bench or deadlift numbers this might as well be made up jargon to women (and anyone else outside of the lifting community)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:29 PM
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Yep competition is one I called out. But it's still a thin line. Competition can determine status and women are attracted to that. But if, say, an offensive linemen on a team is one of the best players the women still want the QB. Similarly, they want a fit guy but won't care if one can bench more as long as they look similarly strong. Men compete over everything some matter some don't
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:27 PM
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Hmmm things men's peacock over that women don't care about.... that's a great and novel question for this sub I'd sat performance in non-physical male only competitions like video games, fantasy football, etc. women absolutely do care and do want the star basketball/football player. They don't care about other stuff. Also women don't care about n count in men like men do. Men use it to brag and gain respect amongst one another. Women want someone who other women want, but aren't going to be turn…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 06:20 PM
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Step back and imagine a similar commercial made for women, or any specific race, or religion. There would be outcry and rightfully show. The commercial is pandering at its worst And don't think the race of the actors in the good and bad parts of the commercial were a coincidence either. Shit like this is why trump won.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 11:52 AM
2

If you have negative feelings towards every ex you're a child. Life isn't black and white
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 11:50 AM
0

I say no. Maybe try causal flings for experience. But consider yourself a cocoon about to be a butterfly. Red pill preaches monk mode for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/19 03:26 AM
0

nah. I bet you are pretty unattractive though
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:59 PM
1

Basically, yes. And data supports that. Sad to see you are blind to that privilege though.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/19 11:59 PM
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