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A lot of predators (both male and female) on men/boys will use alcohol to overpower them, render them unconscious, dull their senses, whatever. Once again. What does that have anything to do with using alcohol to render somebody unconscious, or to weaken them so they are easily overpowered?
/r/MensRights12/05/13 09:58 PM
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When I saw this article I was expecting a horror story of like a 20% difference. The title is definitely misleading. It's true that 3% is still 3%, but it's hardly worth stopping the presses for.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 03:36 PM
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I think that's a bit of a generalization. I have no doubt some children in there didn't need to be separated from their parents (and as the article implies, a disturbing number had a fit other parent) but it is nowhere near the 50% that are medicated for a disorder, and I doubt 50% of the children are there without reason. By and large, even if it is a bad, bad, bad system, it is taking in kids who might have nowhere to go, might have abusive/addict parents. For a lot of kids, that fucked up sys…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:22 AM
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I've got a tough time with holding someone else responsible for behavior you engage in after voluntarily consuming more alcohol than you probably should have. Uhhm, and the 'voluntarily' refers to what part of what I said--the being rendered unconscious, or used as a tool to weaken them so they can be overpowered?
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:16 AM
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Standards for proper dress anywhere is not about sexism. I disagree with the fact that men don't flaunt their sexuality Agreed, to an extent. Most places I've had the pleasure to work/study at had perfectly reasonable dress codes, except for one. Girls had to wear skirts when boys could choose between pants and shorts, so in -30 weather and +25 weather girls had to wear the same knee-length skirt. Some people campaigned for a shorter skirt for summer, and it was rejected for being too sexualized…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:11 AM
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It doesn't work like that because if the woman is drunk then we all know they cannot consent to sex. Even if they drank, even if they bought their own drinks, even if the women got the man drunk. I know you're being sarcastic, but this is a serious problem with men. A lot of predators (both male and female) on men/boys will use alcohol to overpower them, render them unconscious, dull their senses, whatever. There's also a huge stigma between men and boys that this can't happen to men or that it'…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 06:00 AM
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But, doesn't it usually happen that she drinks the beverages herself as opposed to having them forced down her throat? That's a common misconception. Alcohol-facilitated sexual assault isn't literally forcing alcohol down somebody's throat... although it probably could be. It can mean a lot of things, like getting somebody drunk so they can't resist as easily, or getting them blackout drunk so they are unconscious/unaware of what they are doing, or using alcohol to make it easier to force/coerce…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:54 AM
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I'd like for a professional to go through every single one of those psychiatrist's records with a fine-toothed comb. I'm sure a lot of those children do have mood and mental disorders, and I'm sure some of them are probably in dire need of medication, but it seem like there's no way that many of them need medication.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:51 AM
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I don't understand. Is this just about the wording on the 'unwelcome sexual conduct'? I admit it's kind of broad and could probably use a much better and clearer explanation about what is and what isn't unwelcome sexual conduct, but it kind of seems like it's implying that anybody can harass somebody sexually and it's covered by freedom of speech.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:46 AM
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One thing that really stuck out to me was that the claim was 'One third of all abuse victims are male' and the article tried to invalidate that claim by alleging it wasn't physical violence. Even if it wasn't physical violence, does that mean people should just give up? Even if this blogger was 100% right about all of her facts and statistics (though I sincerely doubt she is), domestic violence comes in other forms than physical. Does that mean people have to pretend the only domestic abuse is p…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:40 AM
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It's a shame they didn't give you any exception for self-defense, but it is good to see that they at least recognized her actions. I mean, it's not much of a step forward, but it's a little one. That's probably not much of a consolation though. Sorry that shit happened to you, man.
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:32 AM
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Alright, assuming he is innocent, you probably want to find some proof of this lie. If your brother trusts you, ask to see his phone/facebook conversations, and look through the conversations with this girl. Give him total anonymity from anything you may see, and record what people say, particularly the girl. Keep in mind he is fifteen and might be into things he might not want you (or your parents) to be seeing. Take records and pictures of the logs if they have anything to do with the incident…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:30 AM
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I don't think there's a foolproof system... but I don't think there's a foolproof system for anything. Some steps in the right direction might be; Making it a criminal offence for the parent to spend money received from the child support on anything other than necessities of life/the child's benefit. Giving the power of spending the money to a more responsible party. A child support system based less on a fixed portion of income and more on the parent's expenses involving the child. (This would …
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:15 AM
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I disagree. Ideally I would like for their child to be taken away, but knowing that would put too many children in government services waiting for caring families (assuming the parent paying the child support doesn't want the child). More realistically I think if people are going to abuse this, then somebody more responsible should be given the child support to spend in the best interests of the child. Their grandparents, the other parent, a social worker, anybody other than the irresponsible pa…
/r/MensRights12/05/13 05:07 AM
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If I ask nicely will you stop polluting this movement?
/r/MensRights06/05/13 03:36 AM
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I have had sex with some number of people I just met without them explicitly saying, "Yes, I want to engage in sexual intercourse and I accept all responsibilities and ramifications for this decision" Yeah that's a lot different than hooking up with somebody who is saying 'No', which you've claimed is OK as long as their body language says otherwise. Even if you just met them. And I never said anything about murder.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 03:32 AM
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You know what? When feminist groups claim all men's rights groups are rapists and people believe them? It's the fault of people like you. Just go away. You aren't helping anybody. You're hurting us.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 03:23 AM
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Because reluctant consent is totally consent. /s
/r/MensRights06/05/13 01:48 AM
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Nope, I just know the definition of rape. It's not up for negotiation, regardless of gender.
/r/MensRights06/05/13 01:36 AM
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I'm not pretending.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 10:40 PM
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... That wasn't a feminist suggestion. It was humanist. Did you even read the message before mine?
/r/MensRights05/05/13 10:39 PM
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You responded to When she undid his belt, he "protested." Do you call that willing? With There is such a thing called token resistance. Where people say no, but mean yes. Remember the vast majority of human communication is nonverbal (80%-90%). I think it's pretty safe to say that what you just said was pretty callous. Apparently a girl (or guy) can do whatever to a guy (or girl) they had just met and they can just say 'But their body language was telling me they wanted it!", yeah?
/r/MensRights05/05/13 07:29 AM
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I'm not talking about the scenario. I'm talking about the fact you said Where people say no, but mean yes. Remember the vast majority of human communication is nonverbal (80%-90%). in relation to a story about a man who was claiming he was raped by somebody he had never met. If that is your attitude, that you can just ignore people saying no, that's a problem with you. It has absolutely nothing to do with the scenario, and I never claimed it did, other than the fact a discussion about it prompte…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 07:21 AM
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Nah, it's considered Rape by Deception in most places. They consented to sex, yes, but they didn't consent to sex from that person. They consented to sex from their spouse, not somebody who was pretending to be their spouse.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 07:10 AM
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Where people say no, but mean yes. Remember the vast majority of human communication is nonverbal (80%-90%). There is where the word no is mentioned. In your post.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 07:09 AM
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I think the implication made by OP was that at some point her boyfriend said no, or told her to stop. In which case, if she continued it would be rape, regardless of gender. It was mentioned he 'protested' when she started trying to go down on him, but that wasn't really elaborated.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 06:53 AM
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Where people say no, but mean yes. Remember the vast majority of human communication is nonverbal (80%-90%). Yeah, um, unless you are agreeing on a safeword beforehand and you've fully discussed the fact that you both are into that stuff, you better not be carrying on sexually with any strangers you meet in a sandwich shop if they're saying no. I don't care if 100% of communication is non-verbal, you are just asking for trouble if you try to initiate a hook-up with somebody you just met and igno…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 06:51 AM
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Even if we assume this story is a man making a false rape accusation to get cover up his cheating, we see a lot of things in this thread that are of interest to men's rights. OP, stop arguing with us. Your boyfriend cheated on you, on purpose. There is no possible way he felt threatened by a worker at a public sandwich shop. Why not?! We weren't there! For all we know this woman was stronger than him, larger than him, or in some position of power over him. Why is it impossible that he could be i…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 06:44 AM
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Oh yeah, there's an increased chance of birth defects by then too. Right, I see what you're getting at. When you put it that way, I can see what you mean. But yeah, bottom line is freeze the swimmers.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 06:37 AM
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Can you give me one example of how someone would 'manipulate' another into sex to the point where it should be considered rape? There's been a few cases where an identical twin has seduced their twin's spouse. The spouse, thinking it's their wife/husband they're joining in bed goes along with it. The spouse's sibling knows the spouse doesn't know they are not the spouse, and continues the deception. That's really the only example I can think of, and in most places it is considered rape already.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 05:52 AM
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Just a friendly head's up, it is alcohol, not alcahol. Which law? If it actually says that then it's being selectively applied to suit people's prejudice. Depending on what nation you are from the law may be worded differently. The law is called Drug-Facilitated Sexual Assault (In the U.S.), and it covers everything from slipping roofies in drinks to taking advantage of somebody who is too drunk. This may not apply to all states, or to all jurisdictions. I'm not an expert on the laws of every st…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 05:47 AM
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The problem with that is do you charge both of them for rape? And really, how much is too much? Hookup culture exists, and a night of alcohol and some good company is a much-loved tradition in our culture. How much alcohol do my partner and I have to exist before we rape each other? It's not a simple question, even with a humanist answer.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 05:41 AM
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I saw that post and downvoted it, not knowing there was a brigade. Rape is a serious issue. Not only did that thread imply only women were raped, and only women had to say no, it implied that saying no was literally the do-all-end-all. Didn't say no? Wasn't rape. Clearly we know that's not true. If somebody approaches a man or woman with incriminating photos and demands sex from them, is it consensual? No. Did they say 'no'? Not if they valued whatever it was that was being blackmailed from them…
/r/MensRights05/05/13 05:38 AM
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True, true, but the possibility is always there. Freezing sperm if you want kids is an incredibly smart idea, but I can see why it would be more... vital for women than for men. When it's too late for women, it's too late. Men would only find themselves in this situation if they suffered severe injuries down there, or somehow became sterile.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 05:30 AM
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And just like women can go to a sperm bank to get a donor to fertilize her eggs, men can find a surrogate donor. Admittedly, it's easier to find a sperm bank than it is to find somebody who is willing to spend nine months and go through incredible pain to carry the baby. I don't really see a way around that, though, because it's much easier to convince a man to masturbate into a cup than it is to convince somebody to go through nine months of discomfort/pain.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 05:27 AM
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Is there anything being done about this? Petitions? Funding for the man? Any way we could try to support the man being charged for this stupidity/challenge this ruling?
/r/MensRights05/05/13 05:22 AM
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"it's better to be safe than sorry" It is better to be safe than sorry--but knowing how to go about the incident is the way to go.
/r/MensRights05/05/13 05:17 AM
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Are you calling Britain a matriarchy...?
/r/TheRedPill01/05/13 10:46 PM
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I know the case, but even then there was no charge of rape against the therapist (unless I'm remembering this particular case wrong). And in this case it would probably be a stretch to convince the court that this particular child actually developed false memories about being raped. I know there is precedent for children being convince they were molested.
/r/MensRights29/04/13 02:38 AM
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I think objectification is cultural more than anything. Men can be objectified by women, women can be objectified by men. Hell, men objectify men and women objectify women. I don't think men being objectified is seen as damaging by the general public due to the same stigma/inability to accept men suffer from mental illness. The population in general is biased to believe men have to be tough, strong manly men who put whiskey in their cereal and have a beard that's thicker than a forest--and the a…
/r/MensRights28/04/13 09:16 PM
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Her letter was actually linked to at the bottom and her letter isn't actually taking issue with the logo. She implied that the logo was diverting from the recent arrests of several prominent members of some athletic teams (two accused of striking women). The husky was a metaphor for the violence the team was showing (yeah weak argument on her part, I know). That's where she's trying to come from, anyways.
/r/MensRights28/04/13 04:59 PM
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That was more reasonable than I'd expected. I'm not positive whether she's right about the husky being a diversion, though. I mean, it's possible, but universities are usually pretty good at covering that sort of stuff up without needing to introduce a new logo.
/r/MensRights28/04/13 04:55 PM
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I don't think that would fly in court. It would be beautifully ironic if it could, but there's no precedence for anything like that. I think it would be nice if this horrible excuse for a mother faced child abuse/endangerment charges in addition to the charges and lawsuits I'm sure (or at least hope) will be brought up against her.
/r/MensRights28/04/13 04:41 PM
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Are you replying to the wrong comment? I didn't say that MRAs are gay activists...
/r/MensRights28/04/13 08:53 AM
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Except the victims of murder generally don't bring shame and humiliation to themselves and their families if their murder is investigated. In many areas of the world, if a man reported that he was raped by another man, the stigma brought on him and his family would be incredibly hard to bare. In these nations the fact they have a low rare of male-on-male rape doesn't mean it doesn't happen--in fact it probably happens frequently. Just because it isn't reported doesn't make it any safer.
/r/MensRights28/04/13 08:51 AM
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I think it's kind of deplorable to critique an article without even reading it. It's not even that long, if we are going to have opinions we should think about them ourselves, yeah? One thing OP didn't mention was that this article definitely is looking for things to get offended by. On the topic of male/male rape, the MRA article writer said that the anus was not meant to be entered, so any intrusion that is not gentle and careful could be very painful. The feminist author then complained that …
/r/MensRights28/04/13 02:35 AM
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But being honest, there's an anti-feminist circlejerk here. We can't even deny that there are members who would jump through hoops to make an innocuous act or statement by a feminist into something scandalous. Granted, I know feminists that would do the same to MRAs. Hate, fear and drama sell. People don't (always) want to hear good news, they want to see blood. And in this subreddit, the choice group for that is feminism. I've often wondered if the people who are here for /r/antifeminism instea…
/r/MensRights28/04/13 02:29 AM
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When I was younger, my school (a relatively prestigious place) tried to expel a kindergartener when it was discovered he suffered from seizures. His learning and school behaviour wasn't affected, but they didn't think his marks would be up to the same par as others.
/r/MensRights28/04/13 02:22 AM
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It may seem backwards, but a nation with a high amount of reported rapes is generally doing something right--because it means the victims are not afraid or ashamed to report the crime
/r/MensRights28/04/13 02:17 AM
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I cannot imagine this not being true. Teachers could probably quit their job and work minimum wage, make almost the same pay for fewer hours (including marking and lesson plans) and have to deal with fewer screaming parents. If they didn't care about the kids even in the slightest they'd would have very little reason to stay in teacher.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 12:48 AM
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School shootings are identified as something inherantly wrong with men. Not really. A lot of the most prolific school shooters recently have been young men, but I'm sure most Californians haven't forgotten the sixteen year old girl who shot up an elementary school because she disliked Mondays. This is a man who is assumed to be violent and a threat based on a t-shirt he wore. This is a men's rights issue. Just because it's something that happens to a man doesn't make it a men's rights issue. If …
/r/MensRights23/04/13 12:36 AM
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There shouldn't be, but there is, and that is the point.
/r/MensRights23/04/13 12:25 AM
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I don’t think we’re going to call that rape. To do so belittles victims of legitimate rape. ಠ_ಠ I agree with the message of the article for the most part, but really? We're making 'legitimate rape' a thing again, but for men? Instead of women not being able to get pregnant if it's legitimate, is it men can't get boners if it is legitimate? Like really, what made that author think that sentence in general was a good idea?
/r/MensRights20/04/13 02:13 AM
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Adding onto this, if you know any details about when they hooked up/what they did that might coincide with his stories, it might make him sound slightly more credible. Particularly if it puts holes in her story. Any little bit can help, OP. If your friend really is innocent, I hope the justice system comes through for him.
/r/MensRights20/04/13 02:09 AM
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Ah yeah I never even thought about that.
/r/MensRights13/04/13 06:41 PM
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Maybe this is all they can do. I kind of like this punishment. It's not as good as being charged with a crime, but her name is being slandered in the media, her school turned against her, and she's now looking at exactly zero future job prospects, and a long, bitter court battle in the cards. Just like poor Brian when he was being charged with rape. A bit of a fitting punishment, even if a criminal charge on her would be nice.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 11:03 PM
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Wow. Your answer was so informative and thorough. I would give you gold for that if I could. Thanks! ... But it sucks that there is such little in the way of resources for male abuse victims.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 07:10 PM
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I'm glad to see you're reasonable OP. I don't know why I'm being downvoted for it, but lawsuits aren't always the best option. I'm sorry this had to happen to you.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 07:07 PM
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I'm not from the UK. What is it like trying to find social programs aimed for male victims of spousal abuse? Or if there are any programs aiming to help both genders, whatever. I'm assuming there's a bias towards female victims, but how large is it?
/r/MensRights12/04/13 06:43 AM
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Is that what happens when a webpage is taken down? That's promising.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 06:24 AM
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Is the person blacked out in black all the same person? I find it hilarious she brings up MRAs on a dog video, but once you bring up feminism there's something clearly wrong with you. That's either a troll, or a moron. Either way just ignore them.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 06:14 AM
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Honestly this doesn't seem like a bad thing. Just another nail in her coffin if her attornies are upset with what she is posting. And it doesn't really sound like she's being 'allowed' to use Twitter.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 06:03 AM
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... If you consider gender equality a ridiculous notion, why are you in men's rights? The whole idea of men's rights is achieving equality to women in ways that men's rights are infringed on.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 05:38 AM
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Like men didn’t do the same exact thing in their gentlemen’s clubs… Like girls don't talk about guys they've liked/been in a relationship with/been sexually intimate with. Like guys don't do the same thing about girls they've been with. Like guys don't do the same thing about guys they've been with. Like girls don't do the same thing about girls they've been with. Why do we need to take it further and make it public to millions of people?
/r/MensRights12/04/13 05:36 AM
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Both things seem to serve their purpose. The picture of the women as construction workers (photoshopped or not), is trying to show a familiar photo that there's not much difference between male and female construction workers, and that they're the same. In the original image there were hardworking men, and the edit was to show that there was no impossibility towards hard-working women. Just like in the 'He Can Do It', we have a familiar image speaking to people. In the original, it was to bring …
/r/MensRights12/04/13 05:31 AM
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Yeah I need to see this. I don't know where I've seen this photo before, but I've seen this photo before. If the author tries to pass it off as real I see what the problem is, but otherwise there's nothing really wrong with the photo, especially considering the photo is so famous. It seems suspicious to me that they'd try to pass off such an edit of a famous photo as their own.
/r/MensRights12/04/13 05:26 AM
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I'm not standing by their reason, I'm just saying that's probably what's happening. We all know that society in general thinks men should just 'toughen up' and ignore sexual harassment from women. Gay TSAs society would be more likely to fear, but that's probably less because they're concerned of the well-being of any men any gay predators may encounter, and more because they're homophobic. Either way, the TSA is probably going to be more receptive to claims they're helping predators sexually as…
/r/MensRights12/04/13 05:22 AM
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A question; when I (a woman) was chosen randomly for more thorough scanning, I was given the option between the pat-down and the body scan. Do both men and women get this option?
/r/MensRights12/04/13 05:19 AM
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Playing the devil's advocate here, that may not go so smoothly for OP: He might just have to pay hundreds of thousands out of his own pocket and he may not win at all. The reason that women are allowed to choose is (ridiculous as it may seem) because a lot of women claimed that the TSA agents (male and female) were singling out attractive women to go through the scanner for sexual purposes. Sexual assault definitely is not something the TSA wants to be tied to, and I even heard about these alleg…
/r/MensRights12/04/13 05:13 AM
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