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| 1 | What is Manipulation?Every interaction has multiple levels of meaning. There is the content of a message, and then there is all of this metadata that people don't "perceive" like our assumptions about the message, or the nature of the relationship i.e. roles. Another way to say "role" is "where we stand with each other." Complimentary roles emerge in all systems of communication because contrast is inherent to how we construct information. As such, the meaning in a message is highly dependent on context, and history… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/14 11:11 PM |
| 1 | What is Manipulation?Other than that, I am thinking that there is no end to cycles, it's just a question of what kind of cycle you want to be in. Role clarity is helpful, but it is problematic when it becomes rigid and unyielding. I think what you are suggesting is that once we clarify the issue of power, then we can have an ethical conversation about where we stand, what our needs are, what our responsibilities are, what we find pleasurable, etc. That then might be found to feel egalitarian. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/14 11:05 PM |
| 1 | What is Manipulation?Dominance creates a complimentary relationship dominant/submissive. If you want to maintain this structure at all costs over the course of a lifetime and not adapt at the level of roles, then stress/adaptation will be carried out in your biological systems, and your broader social context. So, you will need lots and lots of family and friends to divert anxiety and stress towards, so that you don't die of a heart attack. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/14 10:57 PM |
| 1 | What is Manipulation?I practicing thinking from the perspective of Systems Theory. I feel like I have to spend more space explaining things through because I don't understand the proofs from beginning to end yet. And, I also am developing my own values and ethical basis for action. It does not exactly have to be a cycle, but will be new cycle no matter what. The question is what kind of roles do you want to be part of, and how will you negotiate for that? Do you believe that eye for an eye is going to fundamentally … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/14 07:16 PM |
| 1 | What is Manipulation?So if one does go into a situation expecting to con someone expecting something for nothing in return? I think this unethical. Is it fair? Can I individually do anything to stop it? Not individually, except to examine my own greed, and anxiety which I would argue is what con artists typically use to get me to commit to an unprofitable arrangement. If I take care of my own greed, and anxiety, and focus on my rightful authority and responsibilities, I am free of the majority of cons. As for manipu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/11/14 06:41 AM |
| 3 | What is Manipulation?preface: I am coming at this from the perspective of a relationship theorist, and youth worker. Your question is relevant to my assumptions, and inquiries about power, communication, role-clarity, autonomy, and ethics. My purpose is to connect communication to ethics. First off, l assume that all communication is manipulative in that from the day we are born we are trying to anticipate and elicit a response from our environment that meets our needs. In this way manipulation is inescapable, and a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/14 10:55 PM |
| 1 | What is Manipulation?preface: I am coming at this from the perspective of a relationship theorist, and youth worker. Your question is relevant to my assumptions, and inquiries about power, communication, role-clarity, autonomy, and ethics. My purpose is to connect communication to ethics. First off, l assume that all communication is manipulative in that from the day we are born we are trying to anticipate and elicit a response from our environment that meets our needs. In this way manipulation is inescapable, and a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/11/14 10:52 PM |
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