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Inner Game TuneSoft7119/r/seduction19/12/25 05:52 AM
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Fundamentals TuneSoft7119/r/seduction19/03/26 09:36 PM
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How do you find that one guy friend with game? My friends are either hopelessly single like myself, or married since they were 19-20 and have kids.
/r/seduction03/07/26 03:31 PM
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I am like op, women always turn away before I can chat with them. Or they find reasons to leave the conversation.
/r/seduction02/07/26 11:17 PM
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what if you have lots of good guy friends, and girl friends, but women arent "magically appearing" as you say. Sure I meet lots but non are even slightly interested in me.
/r/seduction02/07/26 11:14 PM
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true, but the chances of there being 3 single women in a bar is almost zero. I will try that though next weekend
/r/seduction07/06/26 04:47 PM
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yeah, that makes sense, I try to take those things into consideration, but I have never seen a girl who looks open or inviting.
/r/seduction07/06/26 04:19 PM
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obviously you move on, but it gets harder and harder to want to try approaching random women when its the same thing every time.
/r/seduction07/06/26 03:58 PM
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whats the next step when ever woman gives you the worst case scenario?
/r/seduction07/06/26 03:47 PM
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but who do you approach if NO ONE gives you IOIs?
/r/seduction07/06/26 03:45 PM
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not all late bloomers are on the spectrum
/r/seduction12/05/26 09:42 PM
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then what about those of us who have no women are interested in us? I have never gotten signs from a girl showing interest. I see signs all the time towards other guys. Its painful how blind most guys are to a girls interest. Trust me, I attract no one. Even my girl friends who have known me most of my life have said that they cant think of anyone ever liking me.
/r/seduction01/05/26 07:49 PM
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so you move on to another women who isnt interested? Because most of us have never had a girl be interested in us
/r/seduction01/05/26 01:47 PM
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There is nothing for me in NYC. Only depression. Theres no work, hobbies, interests or anything in a city that could make me want to live there or even visit. I went to chicago a few years back and hated it.
/r/seduction25/04/26 01:44 AM
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yeah, I will keep trying. I am in a city of about 50k people, maybe 100k people in my area. I am being honest. I dont often see women who I think are attractive. And if I do, they are with their husband. I feel that I missed my chance and I am only 28. Its a 2 hour drive to a larger city and I go there more often, maybe once a month since they have more stores there. I am always open to suggestions on where I can go to meet girls who arent married by 21. Maybe northern montana is just screwed ma…
/r/seduction19/04/26 02:16 PM
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stores - parents with kids, guys, older people parks - kids, or senior center pickle ball. Though I will admit that I hopped on a group playing volleyball a year back and made friends with them malls - They are dead getting gas? I get gas at 5am on my way to work.
/r/seduction19/04/26 01:41 PM
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dude, I was at the bar on wednesday night from like 7pm to 1am with my coworkers. Not a single girl (aside from my coworkers) were at the bar. the place was dead aside from us. And this was downtown in a major city in my area with a large college. Tonight, I am back home in my town and will be at a coffee shop with some friends and I just home that for the few hours that I am there, a girl shows up.
/r/seduction17/04/26 11:41 PM
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I didnt approach anyone this week because I had no one to approach
/r/seduction17/04/26 11:34 PM
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true. I dont go to that city often, maybe once a month since its a long drive. But I will keep trying
/r/seduction17/04/26 05:29 PM
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oof. I was in a college city of 80k people and maybe 10k students.
/r/seduction17/04/26 04:50 PM
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the 2nd half of my comment said that I literally went to the busiest area and didnt meet any women.
/r/seduction17/04/26 04:49 PM
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ok that all makes sense, but WHERE do you actually find women who are single in their 20s? Like everywhere I go, its mostly guys, couples, or people twice my age. Like this week, I was on a business trip to a larger city with a college and my coworkers and I went out to a few bars they knew would have women at them but yet, it was dead with all guys. Even they were confused since they went to college in this town and had luck at these places.
/r/seduction17/04/26 04:09 PM
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define attractive. I see women who I would consider an 8-10 all the time, though most guys would consider them a 3-4.
/r/seduction12/04/26 07:16 PM
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how do you even meet people on instagram? Do you follow and DM friends of friends or something?
/r/seduction26/03/26 11:53 PM
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Lets say that you have a solid Instagram account. How do you even use it to date?
/r/seduction26/03/26 11:52 PM
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I dont know what to tell you, I am niche, yes, but that doesnt mean my lack of single women around their mid 20s isnt a problem. I have not had anyone be able to tell me where single girls in their mid 20s are at? Even dating apps are dead in 2026. I have missed my chance because everyone got married already
/r/seduction21/03/26 04:26 PM
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and how do you find those bars? Bars in my area are either old person dive bars, tourist traps, or cider tap houses open to families. The tourist traps I occasionally go to in the summer for live music, but again most people are older couples. On top of that, bars are the last place I will meet my wife, I dont drink and the woman I will marry will also not drink. Like I said, my roommate and I are going to another city today, theres a college there and will hopefully run into some girls our age.
/r/seduction21/03/26 03:12 PM
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uhhh, no. I am doing something social every night of the week. Here is what I did this week. Mon - rock climb (mostly kids or older parents) Tues - Run club (guys or couples) Wed - ski club get together (mostly guys) Thurs - bible study (couples, guys, or 16-20 year old women) Fri - bar trivia (mostly older people or parents with kids) Sat - today roommate and I are driving down to the city to hang out. How do I be more social than this? What do I change to meet women in their mid 20s?
/r/seduction21/03/26 02:58 PM
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where do you even find 30 single women in a month? I only meet a few a year and I am more social than most guys on here.
/r/seduction21/03/26 04:21 AM
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I have been on apps. I gave up this year because I went 7 years without a like or a match. Nothing. I will DM what my last attempt looked like
/r/seduction20/03/26 04:22 AM
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Oh boy where do I start. Lets start in high school, I swam in high school and made the state swim team so I have always been athletic. I grew up hiking and camping. In college I spent most of my weekends camping or rock climbing with friends, I did a lot of off roading as well. In 2019 when I was 21 I took 6 months off of school and hiked from mexico to canada on the pacific crest trail. I started skiing as well around this time and did some beer league races here and there. My social life was e…
/r/seduction20/03/26 03:59 AM
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how do I get rid of the desire for intimacy and hugs so I can no longer be needy? How do I turn off my sex drive?
/r/seduction20/03/26 03:27 AM
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I am not needy, I absolutely love my life and people like being around me and others think I live a cool life. Is it needy to be lonely and want a girl to hug?
/r/seduction20/03/26 02:46 AM
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but when I do meet someone I like, she only sees me as a friend
/r/seduction20/03/26 12:03 AM
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well women think I am a pretty cool guy and they like being my friend but are never interested in anything more. How can I be more exciting? So just this week where is my schedule mon - rock climbing at the local gym - mostly kids or parentds Tues - run club - couples or guys Wed - ski club ski wax night - couples or guys Thurs - I have a bible study tonight - mostly guys, the few girls are 16-19 (Obviously WAY too young for me) and are in relationships Fri - going to a bar trivia with my roomma…
/r/seduction19/03/26 01:40 PM
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yep, I am fun, not boring and people like to do things with me. I just almost never meet any women who are actually still single.
/r/seduction19/03/26 03:54 AM
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I will admit that I am not the best at flirting and I am somewhat demisexual so I normally need to be friends first before I like a girl, but that doesnt explain the 0 likes sent to me in 7 years on apps, or the 0 times a girl has ever tried to show interest in me. Honestly I am 27 and at this point I just missed my chance since everyone is married.
/r/seduction19/03/26 03:53 AM
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I am tall and in shape and dress nice. I am super social and am always doing something fun and people like being around me (unless they are all paid to be my friend lol). I am not rich, but I am slowly saving for a house and have a healthy retirement fund started. I have no idea how I would be in bed since I have never hugged a girl, despite trying, my girl friends generally dont hug guys who they arent dating
/r/seduction19/03/26 03:51 AM
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what if women NEVER flirt back or are receptive to you?
/r/seduction19/03/26 12:14 AM
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you could do that if those 5 steps actually worked.
/r/seduction19/03/26 12:14 AM
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not always. I am similar, have all 5 LOCKED IN, and yet I have no options and women are simply not interested in me beyond a basic friendship. And I bet that I am more social and do more things with people than most people on here.
/r/seduction19/03/26 12:14 AM
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what is number 6? Because I have all 5 and still have no dates or options or girls interested in me. I have a cushy gov job, pays decent enough compared to the private sector of my industry, has good work life balance and amazing benefits. Plus some long term upward growth potential should I choose it down the road. I am in really good shape, run ultra marathons, lift 4 days a week, rock climb, ski and so on. Tons of friends, I am well liked, can chat with anyone about anything without issue. I …
/r/seduction19/03/26 12:12 AM
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I am pretty sure I am demisexual, at least thats what therapists have told me. Like I said, I can be friends with a girl for a while, 100% platonic and have no intentions of changing that. But then one day I will wake up and suddenly and randomly that friend will be super hot and I am falling for her hard. It doesnt happen often and I have plenty of girl friends who it never happens to. I have largely accepted that I am too broken and will always be just a friend Look at the demisexual subreddit…
/r/seduction18/03/26 12:39 AM
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I wish. I have never touched a girl despite years of trying to just get a hug from a girl friend. I have never been in a situation where its even appropriate to reach out my hand towards a girl.
/r/seduction17/03/26 11:59 PM
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Oh I 100% like girls. I have only liked 7 or 8 girls in my life and all have been close friends for over a year before I started to like them and be attracted to them. It has been years since I have looked at a random girl and thought she was cute.
/r/seduction17/03/26 11:58 PM
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I am comfortable with hugs, I hug guys all the time, I just hope that someday a girl is open to a handshake with me.
/r/seduction17/03/26 03:19 AM
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I have no idea where to even start with low risk touch. Like I offer to hug my girl friends and they decline since they generally dont hug guys who they arent dating. Every attempt to ask a girl on a date has been turned down and I feel that if I ask any more girls who are obviously not into me, I will have a bad reputation of being a desperate guy. Plus I only meet a few girls who are around my age and single a year. Like last year, I only met 2-3 girls. Obviously wasnt attracted to them since …
/r/seduction17/03/26 02:01 AM
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I mean I have never touched a girl so I have no idea what those chemicals feel like. I also have only ever liked 7-8 girls in my life and I am 28. Nearly all were friends who I developed crushes on after months to years of close friendship. I almost never see women who I would consider attractive. I used to more when I was in college, but its been close to a year now since I met a girl who I thought was attractive from the start. Otherwise, I have to be friends for me to have a chance to think s…
/r/seduction17/03/26 01:25 AM
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how do you create attraction when there is none to begin with?
/r/seduction17/03/26 12:06 AM
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how do you do that if you dont even know your intentions? Like how do you know if you like a girl right away?
/r/seduction17/03/26 12:06 AM
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how do you do that if you dont even know your intentions? Like how do you know if you like a girl right away?
/r/seduction17/03/26 12:06 AM
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then why is it that as a guy, I will often become attracted to my girl friends who I have known for a long time? When before I was never sexually interested in them?
/r/seduction15/03/26 09:35 PM
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whatever you do, dont go into forestry. Its 99% guys and 99% of the time you will be alone in the woods. I love it, but I certainly wont be meeting my wife at work.
/r/seduction13/03/26 10:38 PM
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If I move anywhere else it would be for 100% girls. I have all the life opportunities I could ever need here. Hobbies, career, friends, and family.
/r/seduction13/03/26 01:27 PM
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I live in a touristy town in northern montana, right outside a national park, (almost) world class skiing, very quickly growing and so many people moving here.
/r/seduction13/03/26 04:25 AM
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Thats the thing, I have no idea where that is. Bars? mostly older people or guys. Hobby groups? guys or couples. Church groups? Mostly guys. Where are they? Last year I only met 3 girls who were older than 21 who were single. I was interested in 2 of them but neither of them liked me back, and the 3rd was moving away to grad school soon.
/r/seduction13/03/26 04:18 AM
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I dont have issues with anxiety or social skills. My issue is that I simply never seem to meet women around my age who arent married or in a relationship. I have plenty of girl friends, but I would like to have a girlfriend, and to do so, I need to first meet potential partners, then figure out how to get them to like me more than a friend. But first I have to find a girl in her mid 20s who is still single.
/r/seduction13/03/26 04:03 AM
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What can you do if and when you simply dont see people around your age when your out and about?
/r/seduction12/03/26 06:57 PM
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I mean, I tried for 7 years and I never once even got likes sent to me. I lived in a few different places, college and post college I also travel to larger cities and tried apps there as well.
/r/seduction07/03/26 12:00 AM
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yes and they just give me feel good positive answers like, "dont worry about it, the right girl will find you cute"
/r/seduction06/03/26 04:28 PM
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Well, I have never known what to do with my hair, never really liked it. I dress nice, am in good shape, and tall.
/r/seduction06/03/26 04:05 PM
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How do you figure out where your looks are lacking?
/r/seduction06/03/26 03:43 PM
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what do you mean abundant when no one is interested in you?
/r/seduction06/03/26 02:48 PM
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oh yeah, of course. I love who I am and I am chasing goals every day.
/r/seduction06/03/26 02:47 PM
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How do you have that mindset if no one does like you?
/r/seduction06/03/26 02:46 PM
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How do you even develop an abundance mindset when you simply dont have abundance? I would love to talk to more than 1 girl at once, but I am almost never even talking to even 1 girl. Like where do I meet single girls who are even options? I am in my mid to late 20s and I almost never meet girls around my age who are still single. And if I do, they are way too young for me. How do you get to the point where you can invite girls places? I have girl friends, but I only do things as groups as none h…
/r/seduction06/03/26 02:45 PM
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Aside from tinder tips (I swore off apps, 7 years of no matches) I have the other tips, and yet I almost never meet women who are still single and when I do, they are simply not interested in me more than a friend. How can I get over this massive roadblock?
/r/seduction06/03/26 02:41 PM
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as an athletic outdoorsy guy, I sure wish that women would go to run clubs or hiking groups. Even volleyball clubs?
/r/seduction05/03/26 01:08 AM
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see, chatting with random people is easy for me. its establishing longer term connections or friendships that is hard.
/r/seduction27/02/26 04:10 PM
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how do you have that mindset if your whole life has proven the opposite?
/r/seduction27/02/26 03:46 PM
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How do you shift to the mindset that every girl will like you if all you have ever experienced in life is every girl not liking you? How do you learn to ignore years of experience and results telling you one thing and then believing something 100% opposite?
/r/seduction27/02/26 03:45 PM
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some of us are ugly
/r/seduction13/02/26 04:36 AM
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Same, I have occasionally gotten one or two, but in a 100% platonic sense.
/r/seduction13/02/26 04:36 AM
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Well, as someone who has never received those signs. I guess I am screwed.
/r/seduction13/02/26 04:36 AM
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Skiing means money? Shit, I must be rich. I ski and I am certainly not rich lol. Aside from that, I have a suit pic, center of photo pic with friends, and cool hobby pic (skiing, backpacking, that sort of thing). But I have never gotten a like or a match and I dont know how to stand out.
/r/seduction12/02/26 04:03 AM
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I posted a rough weekly schedule that i tend to do in another reply. More or less I am outdoorsy and athletic. I spend a lot of time in run clubs, the climbing gym, and on the ski mountain. I am also active in Church and church groups.
/r/seduction01/02/26 11:28 PM
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I think I do a pretty good job at getting out and trying to meet people. Most nights of the week I am doing something social. Mon - usually my chores and me time Tues - run club Wed - Rock climbing Thurs - young adult bible study Fri - night ski, game night, chill with a few guy friends Sat - pickup basketball or volleyball depending on the season Sun - roommate and I normally do something together Now in the summer months, a few of those nights get swapped out to chilling at the lake, or fishin…
/r/seduction01/02/26 10:56 PM
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Put yourself in a position to meet new women often. Even if you are the biggest Chad on the planet, if the number of women you meet is 0, ---- This is my biggest hang up. I cant move on to any of the later steps or advice when I only meet (despite my best efforts to be social) 2-3 girls who are still single in a given year. Where do you meet unmarried women when your in your later 20s? Did I just miss my chance?
/r/seduction01/02/26 09:55 PM
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I think I am social enough. Below is a normal week evenings. Mornings I am on the road to work at 5:30 and working out before that. what more can I do? Mon - usually my rest evening for chores. or me time. Tues - bible study Wed - rock climb or run club thurs - guys night Fri - Climbing, dinner with friends, game night, night skiing or so on Sat - same as friday usually, in summer its volleyball club if I am not camping Sun - another young adult bible study. I gave up on apps after trying on and…
/r/seduction31/01/26 12:20 AM
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I am involved in run clubs, ski groups and volleyball in the summer. I am also very active in church, a few young adult programs though I am getting a bit old for them at 27. When I do travel, its either ski trips or road trips, or I go to denver or seattle area to visit family since montana tends to be more rural. But I have my dream career here and am living my best life. I have never been on a date or hugged a girl actually, so my goal is to go on a date before I turn 35.
/r/seduction30/01/26 08:13 PM
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wasnt Tim Tebow single for a while?
/r/seduction30/01/26 03:23 PM
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I have interesting hobbies (skiing, running, backpacking climbing) that I am very good at. I read lots of books so I can try to stay educated so I can talk with lots of people about lots of things. I like to travel as much as I can afford to and am currently planning my summer road trip. I enjoy going to classical music concerts and ballets. I try to live my life to the fullest and fill my days with adventure and friends. What more can I do? Last year I met 3 girls over 21 who were single, 1 rej…
/r/seduction30/01/26 03:17 PM
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malls dont really exist anymore. My local mall has a red lion hotel from the 70s, a game store, a couple junk stores and a jcpennys that hasnt seen a customer since the Clinton administration.
/r/seduction30/01/26 01:00 AM
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what if you are an interesting person but girls are never interested in you more than a friend? How do you find abundance when your in your late 20s and every girl seems to be married or 19?
/r/seduction30/01/26 12:58 AM
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I wish I knew where women were at? I must shot at the store at the wrong time lol. There is a target near me but other people are either 13 or 75, or its mostly empty. whats aldi?
/r/seduction26/01/26 04:23 AM
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So I am not the type of person who will marry the first girl I date. I mean, if it happens great. But I fully expect to have a failed relationship or two, and to go on a fair amount of dates before I settle down. I will still date with intention, but I am not one of those guys who expects to marry the first girl I ever hug. Unfortunately. I have way too many things holding me back that I have mostly given up on ever being a husband.
/r/seduction25/01/26 10:47 PM
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I grew up in oregon and went to a large college there and lived in a city there for a couple years after college. I struggled there with meeting girls and dating. I currently live in Montana, living my best life.
/r/seduction25/01/26 08:13 PM
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I just stated my experience with the girls who I know and am friends with. I am well aware about dating apps which is why I quit them.
/r/seduction25/01/26 08:12 PM
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not sure. I know tons of single guys around my age who are like me and have no options. Its like guys outnumber girls 5 to 1 wherever I go.
/r/seduction25/01/26 05:42 PM
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Ahh makes sense. No worries, I get comments from time to time asking why I am on here if I am traditional, christian, and waiting for marriage. Well, I am 27, I have never been on a date and I have always struggled immensely attracting anyone. So I am on here to try to learn those things so I can eventually meet someone and have a relationship.
/r/seduction25/01/26 05:37 PM
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well, they are married to amazing guys, soooo...
/r/seduction25/01/26 05:29 PM
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What do I never verbalize? Sorry, just a bit confused. I am 27 and looking for girls 21-30ish. Like last night, I was at a game night with friends 8 of us. 3 girls (all married or in a relationship) aged 20, 21, and 21, and the 2 single guys were 24, and me 27. Personally, I am waiting for marriage and I have never gotten a girls number (in regards to dating, I have my married girl friends numbers lol)
/r/seduction25/01/26 05:28 PM
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how do you even find those? When I look up clubs on google maps, it shows me golf clubs or the VA
/r/seduction25/01/26 05:02 PM
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How do you even build a rotation when you only meet 2-3 single women in a given year who are around your age? I am super social and am doing things with people almost every night but even then, I only really meet other guys or couples. Even on dating apps, I dont get any likes or matches, and I even got a couple professional photos. Also, IRL, every girl I know says that they dont like guys who are players and want a nice consistent guy. Though those girls are married and have been since they we…
/r/seduction25/01/26 05:00 PM
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even with hinge and paying for it, I tried 7 years on and off and never once even got a like or match
/r/seduction25/01/26 07:05 AM
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ehhh. I am a funny guy and make women laugh all the time, but that only ever leads to friendships. Making her laugh only works if your attractive and not a 2/10 guy like me.
/r/seduction24/01/26 08:13 PM
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then why is it when you live your life and dont chase, you dont get any results either?
/r/seduction23/01/26 03:59 PM
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what if you dont attract any women?
/r/seduction23/01/26 06:03 AM
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I have no idea, probably not to be honest
/r/seduction22/01/26 01:22 AM
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thats just what people say I am on rating subreddits and in real life
/r/seduction21/01/26 04:44 AM
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yep, thats called making friends
/r/seduction21/01/26 01:23 AM
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I am 6'2" and 175 pounds, I run marathons in the mountains and lift weights multiple times a week. and I am desperately trying to gain weight. I dress clean and nice and keep myself groomed
/r/seduction21/01/26 01:13 AM
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I will DM you
/r/seduction19/01/26 08:43 PM
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oh obviously. I would rather live my own epic life (like I currently am doing) and not have a single girl like me, over try to date any girl who looks at me and have to beg her to hug me. (I also tried that, thankfully no girl ever hugged me so I learned that it doesnt work)
/r/seduction19/01/26 08:09 PM
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I was on and off apps for 7 years. I NEVER once had a like or a match. So I deleted all apps around christmas and put blockers on my phone so I would never be tempted to download them again. When I was in college, I tried asking out a girl a week for a couple years. Thats easily 100 girls or more that I asked out via cold approach. After college, I focused more on building connections and only asking out girls who I really liked and wanted to pursue. Obviously they all turned me down. Its too la…
/r/seduction19/01/26 08:05 PM
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I have never been on a date, but when I am chill and suggest that a girl gets coffee with me, I am always turned down because they arent interested or attracted to me.
/r/seduction19/01/26 07:29 PM
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I am at the point where I really dont know what else to do. I have tried different hair styles. I dress nice, I am in better shape than 99% of the population and I am currently trying to gain weight. I have good skin. I am clean.
/r/seduction19/01/26 07:28 PM
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oh for sure. I will be the first to admit that I am a solid 3/10 on a good day.
/r/seduction19/01/26 07:27 PM
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I tried that a couple times and got results in the 8-9 range on a few pics, most pics were in the 7 range.
/r/seduction19/01/26 07:26 PM
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I dont even have any success in person either so I dont even have that going for me.
/r/seduction19/01/26 07:26 PM
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Overall I tried apps for close to 7 years. That leads to a few locations that I lived, as well as quite a few photos from when I was like 20 in college to current (last fall) when I am now 27. Also leads to me trying all the apps. I really dont know what to blame? The apps? Yeah, the algorithm has something to do I am sure, but I also admit that I am a pretty ugly guy. But my poor looks alone cant be 100% to blame for never even getting a like sent to me over 7 years of trying, never once a matc…
/r/seduction19/01/26 03:28 PM
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so then why is it that when I am just a chill guy chatting with them and not being needy, they are never interested?
/r/seduction19/01/26 02:53 PM
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How do you develop an abundance behavior if you have no abundance?
/r/seduction19/01/26 02:45 PM
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I have done that quite a few times over the years. Also got all new pics (mirrored a few pics and chanced a pixel or two to bypass the algorithm), new email, slightly different birthday, even used my middle name one time. And what did I get? The same zero likes or matches. Dating apps are 100% worthless for men. Do Not Download Them!!!!!
/r/seduction19/01/26 02:44 PM
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hey man, thanks Thats the outlook I try to live by. I am not perfect with it but I am trying. I have never had a woman interested so thankfully I find it easy to let it go when they reject me. Why would I want a girl who doesnt want me?
/r/seduction11/01/26 05:44 PM
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ok what if you have done that but still desire someone to share your life with? I love my life, and I am super social but I still would like a girlfriend and a wife someday, but I am just that chill guy who girls arent interested in.
/r/seduction11/01/26 04:08 PM
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but then what? Then your just the chill guy who girls only want to be friends with.
/r/seduction11/01/26 04:07 PM
1

how can you get rid of the desire to share your life with someone?
/r/seduction11/01/26 04:06 PM
1

what can you do if you dont really ever try to get anything from women, but never have women attracted to you?
/r/seduction11/01/26 04:06 PM
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Not likely. I am tall and in shape. I am demisexual and cant flirt thats my largest issue
/r/seduction05/01/26 04:02 PM
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I make friends easily so I am good to get along with. I just struggle with flirting with girls who I dont like. I also have no idea how to increase my volume. I am doing social things most nights and I almost never meet any girls who are actually single and in their 30s.
/r/seduction01/01/26 10:30 PM
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I had 0 first dates in 2025. I met 4 girls who were single and asked out 3 of them, all 3 turned me down. In 2026, I would like to get a girls number.
/r/seduction01/01/26 09:36 PM
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how can I make a woman feel important? I text or call my girl friends from time to time. Invite them to things, compliment them when appropriate and so on.
/r/seduction25/12/25 11:26 PM
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then you have done that and now your pushing 30s and still have never been on a date and have always been rejected.
/r/seduction23/12/25 03:39 AM
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what if you have single digit body fat and women arent interested?
/r/seduction23/12/25 03:38 AM
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no because every slightly attractive woman I see is wearing a wedding ring
/r/seduction23/12/25 02:28 AM
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Im sorry that I am incapable of understanding what sexual attraction is.
/r/seduction21/12/25 02:59 PM
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I have honestly watched so many of those videos and I have noticed a couple things. First, I simply dont think I am able to understand it. Like something is broken in my brain. Second, I have never even been in a position where I have been close enough to a girl to talk to her ear. I am a grown man, Play is for kids, not adults. Do I bring toys to a bar and ask a girl to flirt and hand her dolls or something? Making fun of people and teasing is wrong, full stop. How do you get a girl to let you …
/r/seduction21/12/25 05:40 AM
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ok, I will read some books on flirting and memorize some scripts and body movements to try on girls? Any tips on how to get girls to be comfortable with you enough to let you pull them in and whisper in their ears? I cant imagine any girl letting me do that. Any tips on how to get close enough to a girl where you can reach out and touch her? As for playing? Isnt that for kids? How do you play with a girl as an adult?
/r/seduction20/12/25 12:10 AM
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yes, I agree, I ask out girls who I like. I have always been told that they just see me as a friend? Any tips on how to ask a girl if she would like to flirt with you? How do you get to a point with a girl where touch is appropriate and wont creep her or her friends out? How do you change your tone of voice to create tension? What even is sexual tension?
/r/seduction19/12/25 11:53 PM
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I really dont know how to see myself as a sexual person with sexual desires, thus I dont know how to express that. Plus any attempt at flirting or asking a girl to flirt with me has fallen flat on its face. I do social things most nights of the week so I think I am being social enough.
/r/seduction19/12/25 07:32 PM
1

can you elaborate?
/r/seduction19/12/25 07:30 PM
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I guess I come across as that safe friendly guy. Everyone likes me and enjoys doing things with me, I get invited everywhere and know everyone. I can approach and chat with anyone without issues. But I have no flirting or charm. You know that stereotypical youth pastor that everyone loves? yeah thats kind of how I would describe myself. I dont really know how to change. I have tried memorizing flirting lines, but I have always been very quickly shut down whenever I try, or whenever I ask a girl …
/r/seduction19/12/25 05:22 PM
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ok sure, how can I be less needy? In what ways could I be acting needy? I personally dont think I am needy but I am probably wrong. I will DM you what my current hinge looks like, maybe you can give some more feedback.
/r/seduction19/12/25 04:11 PM
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How do you show your status? I try to be humble so I dont like to brag. Like I often park to the side so people dont see that I drive a newer car. Do I just need to start bragging about my 401k or that I am really good at my hobbies? And for those of us who have never gotten success by accident, what can we do to turn that around?
/r/seduction19/12/25 03:50 PM
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my friends are honest with me and have helped with my style for example. Iron sharpens Iron, and my friends are good sources of feedback and calibration.
/r/seduction19/12/25 03:27 PM
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How do I be less boring? How do I get out more? This week I have gone to 2 christmas parties and have 2 more to go to tonight and tomorrow. How many social events should I go to a week? I am usually going to 5-6, should I increase that? I am also on dating apps and have tried them on and off since college, I have never gotten a like or match.
/r/seduction19/12/25 03:26 PM
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As I said, even my girl friends cant ever think of anyone who might be interested in me. How do I make intent aside from telling a friend that I have started to like her and would like to take her out on a date? That seems like pretty clear intent to me. No? Yeah, I am starting to get bothered because I cant really think of any potential partners in my day to day life. I dont know many girls around my age who arent married and I feel like I missed my chance.
/r/seduction19/12/25 03:24 PM
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When I do occasionally go to a bar (for live music), I dont often meet people because I either go with friends, run into people I know, or theres no one within my age range at the venue.
/r/seduction19/12/25 03:22 PM
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I struggle to understand what sexual tension even in really. Last thing I need is the reputation of that creepy guy that tries to get into every girls pants. Yeah, I give compliments, but when they are needed and I never expect anything in return. Sure, maybe I am boring, how do I be less boring? What things should I do?
/r/seduction19/12/25 03:21 PM
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because, realistically, how many single women close to your age do you really see in a couple hours?
/r/seduction18/12/25 11:45 PM
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sent a DM
/r/seduction15/12/25 04:07 AM
1

how do you find a girl in a different country if you live in your country and dont really have the option to move?
/r/seduction15/12/25 04:07 AM
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Your right, I do lack confidence with girls. To me confidence comes from success. And I have never hugged a girl. Even if I did want to branch out and try to date random girls, I wouldnt even know who to approach since I have never found a random girl attractive? How do you know if a girl is hot enough to approach? And how to do find girls attractive? As for flirting, I know that its supposed to be sexual banter, but I dont even know what sexual banter is? Do you just ask a girl to flirt and if …
/r/seduction15/12/25 03:35 AM
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I am a rather social person, I am usually doing something social every night of the week with different groups of people. With that, I am told that I am often rather funny and I get get people to laugh pretty often. I am a well functioning adult, so I think that I am able to fill that provider roll. I think I am pretty decent looking. I work out, and I am in better shape than 99% of the population. I am very good at my hobbies that I do, and have a wide variety of interests. Like I can talk abou…
/r/seduction15/12/25 03:08 AM
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what if YOU is simply not what women are interested in?
/r/seduction15/12/25 02:32 AM
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How do you even know what you need to develop about yourself in order to attract women? What are the base level stats or objective things I need to have done before a girl can be interested in me?
/r/seduction15/12/25 02:32 AM
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How do you find your method and style when absolutely nothing seems to work?
/r/seduction15/12/25 02:30 AM
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oh dont get me wrong. I am living one hell of a life. I am good at my hobbies, go to parties, travel, have decent savings, and do cool things.
/r/seduction15/12/25 02:23 AM
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wow this thread is depressing as a guy who is invisible to women and has never hugged a girl
/r/seduction14/12/25 07:34 PM
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how do you do that though?
/r/seduction14/12/25 04:33 PM
1

what do you say to flirt? How do you ask a girl to flirt with you? What lines do you memorize for her responses?
/r/seduction14/12/25 04:32 PM
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your not going to get a real answer here. I have been trying for a while and the commenters just go in circles. I am just like you at 28. I struggle to flirt and when I show my intentions I am just a friend.
/r/seduction14/12/25 04:31 PM
1

I am in the states.
/r/seduction14/12/25 05:28 AM
1

but how do I just date random girls?
/r/seduction13/12/25 07:53 PM
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thanks for the help. Ideally yes, thats the hope. I can assure you that I NEVER start a friendship hoping for something more. Attraction and crushes always develop later, and they often never develop. I am 28, have tons of friends, and have only ever liked around 10 girls in my life. I have tons of friends with women who I never have and likely never will develop feelings for. Unfortunately, most of those girls ended the friendship because they felt cheated, and rightfully so. Now, I just bury m…
/r/seduction13/12/25 07:18 PM
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dead serious. I have never liked a random girl. I have only ever found and developed attraction towards close friends. I am demisexual I am pretty sure
/r/seduction13/12/25 07:10 PM
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Im sorry but I honestly have no idea what flirting is. Talking to girls is how I make friends though. How do you know if you should ask a girl to flirt with you to check the vibe? What does checking the vibe mean? How do you decide what girls to talk to? Is that random?
/r/seduction13/12/25 04:42 PM
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but how do you know who to date? Do you just ask out tons of random girls until one says yes and hope that you start to like her over a few months?
/r/seduction13/12/25 04:38 PM
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its ok, I know that I am broken and not what women want, though I still hold out hope on hugging a girl before I grow old and die
/r/seduction13/12/25 04:00 PM
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I never said that a girl would date any friend.
/r/seduction13/12/25 03:51 PM
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For me it’s very simple to know if i like someone without being friends. I notice what my body does. Does the woman get my penis hard? Does my gaze get drawn to her looking her over and over? Do my private thoughts keep lingering on her? - ------- I never experience that for random girls, only when I start to like a girl who is a close friend. I am not even looking for sex, I am looking for marriage and a life partner, then the sex will come.
/r/seduction13/12/25 03:36 PM
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all my friends who are married or in relationships started as friends first. In my experience 99% of relationships started as close friends.
/r/seduction13/12/25 03:08 PM
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how do you not start as a friend? How do you know if you like someone and want to date them if your not friends?
/r/seduction13/12/25 03:07 PM
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what if you dont even know if you like someone until you have been close friends for a while?
/r/seduction13/12/25 03:07 PM
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eh, men are supposed to and expected to lead and guide the relationship
/r/seduction09/12/25 02:25 AM
1

I dont even know where to meet single girls anymore. Its like I turned 22 and everyone got married without me. And now at 28, I feel that I missed my chance
/r/seduction09/12/25 01:10 AM
1

are there any books where I can memorize behavior patterns?
/r/seduction06/12/25 11:33 PM
1

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/r/seduction06/12/25 01:58 PM
5

What can you do if close to a decade of self improvement hasnt attracted any women?
/r/seduction05/12/25 04:22 AM
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How so? When I dont really, care, I might make a friend but nothing more ever happens.
/r/seduction05/12/25 04:20 AM
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lol, I dont do that. I have never really been that attracted to girls since I am demisexual and I need to be close friends with a girl to find her attractive
/r/seduction28/11/25 05:21 PM
1

do you have any sexual jokes that I can use? like a knock knock joke or something?
/r/seduction28/11/25 05:08 PM
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yeah and when you lower your standards and still arent able to get a date, thats when it really sucks
/r/seduction28/11/25 05:06 PM
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how do you make your self attracted to girls your not attracted to? Or do you just have to pop a viagra and wait?
/r/seduction28/11/25 05:04 PM
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I have heard this before, but what if it doesnt apply to you? I had normal freedoms growing up, I was allowed to do things, my parents wanted me to get out and live life. I went to parties, had fun with friends, got into a slight bit of trouble and so on. I mean, I was a good student and I focused in school, but that doesnt mean I skipped out on friday night bowling parties, or bonfires with friends. Yet I dont attract girls.
/r/seduction23/11/25 03:21 PM
1

none because I have never had results
/r/seduction22/11/25 11:14 PM
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Shoot, I have been trying for 10 years now. 1 city was a large college town in the PNW, followed by a midsized city in oregon, then boulder for a season, then currently a tourist ski town in northern montana
/r/seduction22/11/25 08:14 PM
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I am 28, I have asked hundreds of girls for a simple coffee or tea date, for their number, or to get to know each other. I have NEVER been on a date. I have NEVER hugged a girl.
/r/seduction22/11/25 04:43 PM
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and if those are fine? Some of us are just so emotionally numb from years of constant rejection with no success.
/r/seduction22/11/25 04:39 PM
5

B-b-b-but where do you even meet girls who arent married? How do you find volume? I can chat with anyone anywhere easily, but nearly every girl I meet is 2-3x my age or is wearing a ring.
/r/seduction22/11/25 04:38 PM
1

what are some signs of undiagnosed autism?
/r/seduction22/11/25 04:36 PM
2

I can approach anyone but I cant flirt to save my life. I didnt even do many approaches. Its not hard to walk up to someone and chat with them. But.... i have never been on a date
/r/seduction13/11/25 03:42 AM
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well, thats what options I have. Shopping district? whats that? Theres walmart, costco, and target all within the same parking lot area, along with some other stores. Subway is empty most of the time and fast food doesnt sound like the best spot to meet people since its a drive through. Theres no buses around me. Dining is the same area as the shopping. There like ihop, a ramen place, and a mongolian grill.
/r/seduction11/11/25 11:37 PM
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I guess I could approach single mothers in walmart.
/r/seduction11/11/25 11:05 PM
0

where are you finding 10 women a day?
/r/seduction11/11/25 08:49 PM
1

ok, cool, I guess I get to complain about being invisible then.
/r/seduction11/11/25 08:48 PM
1

what if you have pursued passions and are really good at them but are still invisible to women?
/r/seduction11/11/25 05:10 PM
1

what do you mean? I am waiting for marriage and I know many girls who have done the same
/r/seduction09/11/25 05:40 PM
1

or she is waiting for marriage
/r/seduction09/11/25 04:40 PM
1

ok, and if we are a guy who is waiting for marriage?
/r/seduction09/11/25 04:39 PM
1

Sorry, But I cant even find where the places tab is. I have an android so its probably an apple only feature.
/r/seduction08/11/25 03:43 PM
1

how do you even find local single girls on instagram? I just follow friends, and my reels page is just cat videos or white monster memes.
/r/seduction08/11/25 05:17 AM
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and what if theres never any single girls in those groups and I am busy in said groups all the time and doing what I can?
/r/seduction07/11/25 04:46 PM
1

because I have never hugged a girl and my attempts to even get a hug or a date has proven to be impossibly difficult
/r/seduction04/11/25 01:00 AM
1

nope. I am my own man who lives my own life and does what I want. I am independent and dont rely on others.
/r/seduction02/11/25 04:50 PM
3

they have either told me that they would rather be friends or that they arent attracted to me.
/r/seduction02/11/25 04:08 PM
2

I am one hell of a guy, and a lot of girls think that as well, but none are interested in dating me.
/r/seduction02/11/25 04:05 PM
1

how? Its possible for someone to have status, value, and even looks, but still not have women be sexually attracted to you?
/r/seduction02/11/25 04:04 PM
5

how is getting a woman not hard? Its literally the hardest thing you could ever do. I am pretty sure that achieving fusion energy would be easier than finding a girl who wants to go on a date with me.
/r/seduction02/11/25 04:01 PM
2

and then what?
/r/seduction02/11/25 04:00 PM
1

or 2000 and still none will find you sexually attractive
/r/seduction02/11/25 03:59 PM
3

I'm heading to a taphouse with friends then probably going to watch some stupid horror movie after that. Not expecting anything to happen.
/r/seduction31/10/25 10:58 PM
1

nah. she is waiting for marriage like I am.
/r/seduction31/10/25 03:16 PM
1

where are you going? I cant think of anywhere where single girls will be.
/r/seduction31/10/25 02:15 AM
1

I will continue to do those things and run/join more groups.
/r/seduction28/10/25 12:25 AM
2

I had a couple of those
/r/seduction26/10/25 10:17 PM
1

As I said, I am in really good shape. I lift 4 days a week and run 3 days a week, rock climb 2 days a week and such. How much better shape should I be in?
/r/seduction26/10/25 10:12 PM
2

I gave up on online dating since I went 7 years without a like or match. I am in the best shape of my life and always pushing myself. I have been trying to be more social to meet more women who are single. I will focus on continuing to be social. Any other tips?
/r/seduction26/10/25 09:43 PM
1

so as a guy who currently women do not desire, how do I fake that desirability?
/r/seduction26/10/25 09:21 PM
6

I am an average looking guy and can send pics to prove. I make friends easily and girls want to be friends with me, but never anything more. I dont know how to change my vibe from friend to partner.
/r/seduction26/10/25 04:14 AM
2

if you have 2 and 4, how do you actually, get or find girls who are attracted to you and want to be more than friends?
/r/seduction25/10/25 11:06 PM
1

I think I just have the ugly since I am super social and have lived in a bunch of different places. I just dont know what else I can do to improve my looks besides surgery, and I dont even know what surgery I need to look average.
/r/seduction11/10/25 07:55 PM
3

what does it say when I dont attract any girls?
/r/seduction11/10/25 02:48 PM
1

lol. I have all 4 mostly. And I still have no luck with women and have never been on a date. Only think that is lacking is 3. I try to do these things, but I have always been shut down. and now that I am getting into my late 20s, I simply dont have girls in my life to even flirt with since they are all married.
/r/seduction10/10/25 10:09 PM
1

I will send you my profiles. Maybe you can help.
/r/seduction26/09/25 12:02 AM
1

I have never even gotten that far before.
/r/seduction26/09/25 12:02 AM
1

I already am. Here I will send you what I look like
/r/seduction25/09/25 03:12 AM
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I have seen the profiles that my girl friends see. Its pretty sad, a lot of mirror selfies and overweight guys. I can also see guys profiles on upward (christian tinder) in the friends tab. My real competition is from every other outdoorsy guy that is more outdoorsy, richer and more attractive than me, but I dont know how to change that. If you want I can send you my profiles
/r/seduction25/09/25 03:09 AM
2

aside from dressing nice, being in shape and having good skin, what else can I do?
/r/seduction25/09/25 02:55 AM
1

I simply have not met any girls older than 21 who are still single in the last 6 months now. As I have gotten older, single women are becoming increasingly rare.
/r/seduction25/09/25 02:24 AM
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correct. now that I am 28, I have missed my shot. Plenty of fish? Yeah right, maybe 5 years ago but now the sea looks like just off the coast of china, its been overfished and theres no fish left.
/r/seduction25/09/25 12:12 AM
1

because often times you need 10s of thousands before you can get a number.
/r/seduction25/09/25 12:11 AM
1

all that seems impossible to a guy who has never hugged a girl. Is there like some pre steps or anything that someone could work on?
/r/seduction25/09/25 12:09 AM
1

what if you have tried that for years and still have not gotten anywhere?
/r/seduction25/09/25 12:08 AM
5

how did you just get on apps and go on dates. I have been on the apps for 7 plus years and I have never even had a girl send a like to me, and have never had a match.
/r/seduction25/09/25 12:07 AM
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what if I have to go friends first since I am demisexual. Plus girls have never been attracted to me. I dont know how else to do it. I dont make a friend with the hope to date her. I just occasionally happen to develop attraction towards a friend. Like every few years or so. Thus I have never been on a date and have never hugged a girl.
/r/seduction25/09/25 12:05 AM
1

eh, most of them are married
/r/seduction25/09/25 12:03 AM
0

then how come everyone I know was best friends with their partner before they started dating. Literally everyone goes friends to dating naturally.
/r/seduction24/09/25 12:08 AM
0

then how come everyone I know was best friends with their partner before they started dating. Literally everyone goes friends to dating naturally.
/r/seduction24/09/25 12:07 AM
9

then how come everyone I know was best friends with their partner before they started dating. Literally everyone goes friends to dating naturally.
/r/seduction24/09/25 12:07 AM
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I feel like I have 2 reasons. They allow me to see girls outside of my social circles. I feel like they are my only chance since girls in my social circles only ever see me as a friend.
/r/seduction21/09/25 04:34 PM
1

I wouldnt say that I am socially stunted since I have lots of friends and am well liked. I have never had a girl show even the slightest bit of romantic interest in me m though.
/r/seduction20/09/25 01:40 PM
1

Every time I have liked a girl or been interested in a girl, I am either told that she just sees me as a friend or that she isnt attracted to me.
/r/seduction20/09/25 01:39 PM
6

then what about us tall good looking guys who cant even get a date?
/r/seduction20/09/25 02:18 AM
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how handsome are they? Because I am tall, look pretty good, have a solid career, my life is in order, and even have some social skills. Yet single and have no luck or chance with women.
/r/seduction20/09/25 02:17 AM
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Showed up one day to a young adult group and we hit it off, and he joined the friend group. There was this girl in the group who is an absolute model but saw every guy as a friend including him. After about a year she started to like him and they are now engaged. Not what yall are expecting, but the guy is living the dream.
/r/seduction20/09/25 02:15 AM
1

its an issue when girls move away whenever I do try to touch them. I am just a friend to girls and girls generally dont touch guys who they arent in a serious relationship with
/r/seduction12/09/25 04:00 PM
1

why would women be scary, they are just people and easy to talk to.
/r/seduction11/09/25 11:58 PM
1

I have never even been able to get a date.
/r/seduction11/09/25 11:57 PM
1

same. I have never been on a date and have never hugged a girl. Every girl has only ever seen me as a friend.
/r/seduction11/09/25 03:05 AM
3

what if no woman does?
/r/seduction11/09/25 03:00 AM
1

look, this is all great and I am glad you replied, but I have never even hugged a girl. I have never been in the position with a girl where I could touch even her shoulder. Like I have girl friends, but they have made it clear that they arent the touchy kind and will only hug guys who they are in relationships with.
/r/seduction11/09/25 12:16 AM
1

yeah, I almost never meet girls who arent married.
/r/seduction11/09/25 12:15 AM
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but how do you get a girl to even get in your car with you? (not in a group setting). I have never even been close to being able to hug a girl and I dont know how to get to that point, so I am starting from nothing.
/r/seduction10/09/25 03:29 AM
2

how do you even find a pond?
/r/seduction10/09/25 12:22 AM
1

then how do you make yourself a 6?
/r/seduction10/09/25 12:22 AM
5

how do you even get to a point where touching is ok?
/r/seduction10/09/25 12:20 AM
1

if only that worked. My run clubs are full of women, but they are all married.
/r/seduction08/09/25 03:08 AM
1

how can I do that? What stats must I have to show that I am more than a 1?
/r/seduction06/09/25 06:11 PM
2

I dont even know how to get a 1 to be interested in me or attracted to me.
/r/seduction06/09/25 04:58 PM
1

At this point, I would take a 1.
/r/seduction06/09/25 04:45 PM
1

exactly. No one ever talks to random people at bars. 99% of the time, bars are just guys anyways.
/r/seduction06/09/25 04:44 PM
1

go home because I cant compete with tons of other guys. Just not attractive enough
/r/seduction06/09/25 04:44 PM
1

true, but I would rather have a girl get mad at me over telling me that she has a boyfriend because then I would at least know that I could have had a chance if I was more attractive instead of knowing that I missed my chance since no one is single anymore.
/r/seduction30/08/25 03:40 PM
2

or he likely exists and she is letting you know that she isnt available. This is likely the case if she is over 21.
/r/seduction30/08/25 03:37 PM
1

what if those girls actually have a boyfriend or husband? most girls are married after 21 I have found.
/r/seduction30/08/25 03:36 PM
2

or they actually have a boyfriend. single girls are rare after 21ish
/r/seduction30/08/25 03:36 PM
2

then where are those single women? Because I have not met a girl over 21 who wasnt married or engaged in over 6 months.
/r/seduction30/08/25 03:35 PM
5

I do those things. I am in run clubs, volleyball groups, church groups for young adults, and ski groups. I dont often meet girls who arent in relationships. I will DM you
/r/seduction29/08/25 05:44 PM
2

Well, Looks like I only have social skills going for me. I have no idea how to get more exposure when everyone is married by their mid 20s. I have never been able to understand the concept of flirting and no amount of reading has helped me out. Looks? I am a solid 3/10 and have no idea how to improve my looks since I am already tall and in good shape.
/r/seduction29/08/25 04:44 PM
2

0-2. I almost never see or meet girls in their 20s who dont have a ring. And then when I do, theres like a 99% chance I dont find them attractive since every somewhat attractive girl is married by 21.
/r/seduction27/08/25 05:22 PM
2

I have only ever been attracted to 5 or 6 girls in my life. I tried the cold approach random girls thing when I was in college and I gave up after 150 straight rejections.
/r/seduction24/08/25 08:49 PM
1

I dont even know how I am suppressing them, or if I am. I cry myself to sleep most nights out of loneliness. If I am suppressing them as you say, its likely through work, video games, hobbies or working out, but I have been slowly losing interest in those things lately.
/r/seduction24/08/25 08:49 PM
2

How is that not true. I have never hugged a girl and have had quite a few girls tell me that they arent attracted to me. Or that they would date me if they found me attractive but just want to be friends.
/r/seduction24/08/25 08:47 PM
2

I have done both. I have a large and thriving social life, but its mostly guys or couples and us guys are competing for the very few girls who are still single and I am the king of the friendzone. Apps? I have been trying for 8 years and I have never gotten a like or a match. I am simply too ugly for girls to like me more than a friend.
/r/seduction24/08/25 08:14 PM
1

I dont really know what to call my negative emotions. Maybe just helplessness that I missed my chance and am not what girls want in a guy. Maybe envy since I see others who get to hug girls and I deeply crave and wonder what a hug feels like. I dont really know how to deal with these emotions since everything that happens only feeds them and makes them stronger.
/r/seduction24/08/25 08:13 PM
2

I figure. I have largely given up trying to ever get a date since I have missed my chance. I have my standards and I meet them myself and will gladly die without ever touching a girl over breaking my values and standards.
/r/seduction24/08/25 08:09 PM
1

no worries. I dont expect you to have all the answers lol. When I do like a girl, its a sense of comfort, familiarity, and peace. Like not wanting anything more than to be with her. Being able to be 100% myself around her. Her presence reduces my stress and doing things with her just feel natural and normal. Like a best friend but better. Kind of hard to describe since a lot of girl friends also make me feel this way, but when I like a girl, its all extra, if you get that. It can take months or …
/r/seduction24/08/25 07:17 PM
2

so for us guys in our late 20s who are waiting for marriage and would like a girl who is doing the same. Is it just best for us to give up?
/r/seduction24/08/25 07:06 PM
1

I wasnt being sarcastic. Oh I enjoy life. I live one hell of a life that I try to live to the most enjoyment every day. I truly believe that I am living 90% of my best life. That last 10% are goals or ideas that I am just not quite ready for yet. I struggle to imagine things. I cant imagine being on a date with a hot girl because I have never been on a date with any girl.
/r/seduction24/08/25 03:43 PM
0

talk to her like she's just a friend - thats how I make friends. tease her - I dont know how to tease. I am not a jerk be playful around her - I dont know how to be playful. I am not a kid anymore. make her feel things or in this case - girls feel like they want to do things with me and think and feel that I am a super cool and dope guy. How do I go from here?
/r/seduction24/08/25 03:33 PM
2

how do you do that though? Not even a hot girl. just any girl. I have never hugged a girl so I imagine what its like to hug a girl and I simply cant imagine that. I have always struggled to imagine things that havent happened so I literally cant just imagine and create new thoughts or creations in my mind. Its called Aphantasia. Its a crippling disability if I have to imagine myself with a girl for it to be true. Now on to part one. I dont really think of anything when I see a girl, its just lik…
/r/seduction24/08/25 03:27 PM
1

but how do you get women to see those qualities in a way thats more than a friend?
/r/seduction24/08/25 03:23 PM
6

how do you think that when no girls are with you?
/r/seduction24/08/25 03:22 PM
1

I cant even imagine myself with any girl.
/r/seduction24/08/25 03:21 PM
1

I will admit that I suck at flirting, but I do live my own life and am proud of my life. I am not looking for someone to be my life, rather for someone to join it. but still, its surprising that not one girl has found me interesting enough to date. Esspecially when I know of super autistic guys who have girls all over them despite their awkwardness.
/r/seduction22/08/25 11:46 PM
1

I just have no idea how to become that guy. I dont know what to work on or improve about myself. I am in a pretty good spot financially. I am well liked and have a really good social life and lots of friends and connections. I am in really good physical shape. and I do my best to put myself out there and I try my best to flirt when I like a girl. I have had countless friends try to set me up only to always be just a friend.
/r/seduction22/08/25 11:27 PM
2

I wish that was the case. I have tons of women friends, but that has never led to having women want me as anything more.
/r/seduction22/08/25 11:14 PM
1

wait, you have women in your workplace?
/r/seduction21/08/25 11:37 PM
19

currently 0
/r/seduction17/08/25 03:15 PM
3

or she will just see you as a friend like the girl your with
/r/seduction16/08/25 10:13 PM
1

ok, I will say those lines if I ever have a girl in my proximity, Just need to figure out how to get them to say the openers.
/r/seduction12/08/25 12:00 AM
1

I guess I am just not able to understand
/r/seduction11/08/25 01:31 AM
0

well, thanks for trying to help anyways, your the first person to actually attempt to explain flirting. I live a bad ass life. Hell, I climbed a mountain and went skiing this morning, then played volleyball and jumped in the lake with friends. People think I am cool and girls like being around me and doing things with me. I have always been that guy who knows a ton of people and shows up everywhere and just sort of knows someone. I just dont know how to make myself attractive to them. I am a 27 …
/r/seduction10/08/25 10:37 PM
1

Are you a nice & respectable man to your boys? You still have fun trash talking, - I would never trash talk anyone. I used to try and I lost friends because I was mean. The examples you mentioned such as about shopping or drive are just plain rude. I dont think I have ever seen a girl get her lashes extended, but I do remember details such as her favorite tea
/r/seduction10/08/25 05:24 PM
1

Thanks for some real examples. How do you get a girl to follow you so I can use the first one?
/r/seduction10/08/25 05:21 PM
6

I have tons of single friends who are also guys who are chronically single. They just dont have social media. How can you make instagram more attractive. I mostly post pics of adventures and nature.
/r/seduction10/08/25 05:20 PM
11

wow. My instagram is mostly wedding photos or kid photos these days. No one tags anyone or posts stories. The only reason I seem to have Instagram is for my family to see pics of adventures I go on.
/r/seduction10/08/25 03:29 AM
11

how do you even get a date off of instagram? How do you even find single girls to follow?
/r/seduction10/08/25 03:25 AM
1

ok, but what do you even say? Do you have any scripts to memorize? I dont tease since I am a nice respectable man.
/r/seduction10/08/25 03:12 AM
3

I am not on the spectrum in the slightest. Like I can memorize that line you said, but that still requires a girl to be interested in me to return it. I understand what you were going for in your example, thanks for the help, I just struggle to think of things on the spot and struggle to even have a girl notice my existence.
/r/seduction09/08/25 09:29 PM
1

why would I screw over a friend?
/r/seduction09/08/25 09:24 PM
2

what does light flirt, heavy flirt even mean?
/r/seduction09/08/25 09:23 PM
3

I still have no idea what flirting or innuendo even means. No matter how much I read into it or ask others, I have not gotten a clear answer. I have never noticed a woman's desire towards myself. I see it directed towards others all the time, but never to me, I am invisible to women and have to work hard to just get them to talk to me or acknowledge that I even exist.
/r/seduction09/08/25 03:53 PM
1

how do you even do it with a friend though?
/r/seduction09/08/25 03:26 PM
2

how else are you supposed to do it?
/r/seduction09/08/25 03:25 PM
0

how do you do those things though? how do you get your self into a spot where you can ask a girl to flirt with you?
/r/seduction09/08/25 03:23 PM
6

how do you start to build sexual tension (whatever that even is) with a girl your friends with?
/r/seduction09/08/25 03:22 PM
1

how do you connect but not be just a friend?
/r/seduction08/08/25 02:58 AM
1

what 4 buzzwords did I use? I never mentioned neg, funnel, or warm approach. I have no idea what those even mean.
/r/seduction08/08/25 02:48 AM
1

I know that and see it work for others all the time, I just dont know how to get a girl to find me attractive enough to not be a friend.
/r/seduction07/08/25 12:31 AM
1

I know, but I am living my best life here and would be miserable in most other places.
/r/seduction06/08/25 03:37 AM
1

see approaching and chatting with people and girls is easy for me. its turning that approach into interest. I am demisexual so I have to be friends first, but by that time girls are just friends with me.
/r/seduction06/08/25 03:17 AM
2

define "big" because if its like a million people or more, thats like a 5 hour drive. I am hoping that one of these summers I am lucky enough to get tickets to the local country music festival before they sell out and get resold for like 1500 dollars.
/r/seduction06/08/25 03:16 AM
2

I go to concerts from time to time, but they are in concert halls or theaters so not really a venue to talk to others aside from who is next to you. I dont even know if theres any clubs in my city or nearby cities and I dont know how to find them. Its confusing. I live in a touristy area and a ski town so you would think that theres younger girls but apparently not.
/r/seduction06/08/25 01:12 AM
2

how do you even find places with girls who are younger than 60 and not married?
/r/seduction06/08/25 12:19 AM
1

what makes a guy interesting?
/r/seduction06/08/25 12:19 AM
2

how do you figure out which one it is? I can read the signs since I know that they arent interested, but how do I make them interested in me?
/r/seduction06/08/25 12:19 AM
4

how do you even find 10 girls a week who are single? When I went out more, bars were old guys or couples and other social things were filled with couples.
/r/seduction06/08/25 12:16 AM
1

how do you bring emotion into conversation? What does that even mean?
/r/seduction02/08/25 03:36 PM
2

I have a decent face, but its not good enough for girls to approach. Its also not good enough to ever get a date.
/r/seduction02/08/25 03:27 PM
1

then how come, I, a 6'2" guy who is active and social, has never been on a date?
/r/seduction01/08/25 04:16 PM
1

0 matches, obviously 0 dates
/r/seduction31/07/25 02:08 AM
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also you have to be able to find 5 single girls in a given day. Thats impossible given girls tend to be married by 21.
/r/seduction27/07/25 04:17 PM
1

I know. I live my own life and if a girl doesnt mesh then I dont try to change myself for her.
/r/seduction26/07/25 09:01 PM
1

and thats how you only be a friend
/r/seduction26/07/25 08:50 PM
3

talking to girls is easy, but how do you get to be seen more than a friend?
/r/seduction26/07/25 08:50 PM
1

I have no idea how to do that
/r/seduction25/07/25 04:49 PM
1

thanks, that sort of makes sense. But I guess I still dont really understand how to look a girl in a sexual way vs normally. Do you like stare and smile?
/r/seduction25/07/25 02:00 PM
3

what even is sexual tension? how does looking at someone's eyes make them want to have sex with you?
/r/seduction25/07/25 12:13 AM
1

I am currently in a city of like 50k and have about 100k within an hour drive or so. Its a touristy area so I dont often see the same people unless its like church or the climbing gym lol. I live a few blocks from downtown and go there somewhat often for food and shopping.
/r/seduction24/07/25 12:02 AM
1

I am in church groups, hobby groups, and go out with friends, never meet anyone who is single
/r/seduction23/07/25 02:30 AM
1

I am in the usa and every girl is married by 21 it seems.
/r/seduction23/07/25 12:43 AM
1

how big of a population center do you need? and how close?
/r/seduction23/07/25 12:43 AM
1

where are these thousands? I can only think of like 3 girls in their 20s who arent married.
/r/seduction23/07/25 12:42 AM
4

what farmers market? Farmers markets are older couples and people with kids.
/r/seduction23/07/25 12:42 AM
1

likely both. I am not sure how to be more manly. I am in good shape and wear flannels and work in the woods. I am demisexual and need to have a close friendship with a girl before I even have a chance to find her attractive. and I simply dont understand what flirting even is
/r/seduction22/07/25 12:38 AM
8

27 yo. 6'2", 0 (of everything, including hugs)
/r/seduction21/07/25 01:10 AM
2

hey thanks. I will keep that in mind. Sorry for what seems a basic question, but its because I have never hugged a girl
/r/seduction20/07/25 03:30 PM
3

how do you go from an introduction to shaking hands? Girls always turn me down or go for a fist bump.
/r/seduction20/07/25 02:57 PM
1

how do you even know what areas to work on with self improvement?
/r/seduction20/07/25 02:56 PM
1

I wish, I have never had a girl be remotely interested in me more than a friend
/r/seduction20/07/25 02:26 PM
18

they try and they try to introduce me to their friends, but at my age (27) my friends dont really know many girls who arent married and those who are single and who they introduce me to just want to be friends and arent attracted to me.
/r/seduction19/07/25 10:08 PM
1

7 or 8 times now who are pretty close friends
/r/seduction19/07/25 09:45 PM
1

yes, but only as a friend to them.
/r/seduction19/07/25 09:07 PM
1

yes, but thats just making friends, not dating. trying to find a girl or get a girl to like me is not fun in the slightest.
/r/seduction19/07/25 08:44 PM
1

Yes I have met those people. But they have been guys or girls who arent available or are not interested in me. Thats not dating, thats just making friends.
/r/seduction19/07/25 08:43 PM
66

It just happens for me. I am friendly and I make friends easily. Sadly I dont want more girl friends, I want a girlfriend which I dont know how to do.
/r/seduction19/07/25 08:41 PM
1

how do you be more fun and adventurous instead of boring? I think I am those things, but I am obviously not.
/r/seduction19/07/25 01:24 AM
1

how in the world is dating exciting? I have never felt excited trying to date. but like you said, because I want a relationship, I have to continue to try to date.
/r/seduction19/07/25 01:23 AM
1

malls are like 1980s. Malls are dead
/r/seduction15/07/25 02:57 AM
2

do you not have a job?
/r/seduction15/07/25 02:56 AM
3

they must not have jobs lol
/r/seduction15/07/25 02:54 AM
2

I love how people make blanket assumptions. It makes sense, people assume in the just world fallacy. But I am 27, I am tall, in really good shape, am clean, dress nice, and have pretty decent style and looks. I am not a model, but I have done what I can to not be ugly. I dont expect much, just an average or even below average girl, I really dont care about looks, more about what we have in common and if I can have fun with them and build a life with them.
/r/seduction11/07/25 10:51 PM
1

what can you do if girls keep having that opinion of you?
/r/seduction11/07/25 10:41 PM
1

I am in phenomenal shape. I am tall and lean, yes I could gain weight, but I lift 3-4 days a week and my main fitness is running.
/r/seduction11/07/25 12:19 AM
1

sure, but a kid is still able to understand and wonder why others have friends but not themselves.
/r/seduction10/07/25 02:58 AM
2

even at a young age, I was a social outcast even though I tried to make friends in school. I can and do approach anyone but it still doesnt help me out when no girl has ever wanted to be with me or near me. It just makes me not even want to try anymore. I dont give a shit about my "worth". I live a kick ass life that I love and many people wish they could live. I do what I want and I love my life.
/r/seduction10/07/25 02:48 AM
1

ok, so I have that, how do I get my girl friends to introduce me to single girls? And when they do, how do I not get friendzoned by those new girls?
/r/seduction06/07/25 02:56 PM
1

thats my current plan of action. I have been for years and I simply dont know where to meet girls who are not married.
/r/seduction06/07/25 03:48 AM
1

see, this is the mismatch of advice here. Some people say to approach lots of random girls, and other say only go after girls who show interest.
/r/seduction05/07/25 08:45 PM
1

shopping centers? as in walmart and costco? how do you filter out the people getting to their cars and families? Downtown? my downtown is dead, but a nearby tourist town is active, however, its mostly guys or families. How do you find trendy neighborhoods? and what is a trendy neighborhood?
/r/seduction05/07/25 07:45 PM
1

ahh, makes sense. I have never had a girl smile or stare at me.
/r/seduction05/07/25 06:26 PM
1

how much money do you need?
/r/seduction05/07/25 05:20 PM
1

thats where I struggle. I dont know where girls are in my city, or close by me? It seems wherever I go, the girls who are there are either older, or married. Say things like: Farmers markets - older girls with their familes, or retired aged women. Rock climbing gym - very few girls or they are with their boyfriend/ husband Church groups - same Bars - mostly older married women or guys. the lake - mostly middle schoolers
/r/seduction05/07/25 05:19 PM
1

so for me? I have only ever experience romantic rejection. I have never even hugged a girl. What positives? I have none, aside from trying to learn from mistakes, which is hard to do since there's little feedback which is not really consistent. When your only ever rejected, the common denominator is you, and I need to figure out how to change.
/r/seduction05/07/25 05:14 PM
4

ahh makes sense. I work 10 hour days with an hour commute each way, often weekends in the summer as well.
/r/seduction05/07/25 05:11 PM
1

how is that sad when thats the reality for most guys?
/r/seduction05/07/25 05:10 PM
1

how do you not get friendzoned when you start as friends?
/r/seduction05/07/25 05:10 PM
1

then nothing happens because they dont think your interested and your ignored. I do hang out with the girls who friendzoned me but since they are now married, it doesnt help.
/r/seduction05/07/25 05:09 PM
4

how do you even have time to approach 33 girls a day? Even if you find a girl (any girl, and age, any marital status) within 12 min, thats 396 min of approaching, or 6 and a half hours? 6 and a half hours of approaching? Do you not have a life? I get home at 6pm and I am in bed by 9pm, that leaves 3 hours on weeknights to not only take care of myself, but also travel to a place with women and find 33 women to approach?
/r/seduction05/07/25 05:01 PM
1

Im sorry, but you seriously cant tell me that you will feel the same after 1000 girls reject you? You dont feel any different? Any normal person would feel somewhat down after 1000 rejections.
/r/seduction05/07/25 04:59 PM
7

so.... Never approach? Who do you approach if girls have never shown interest in you?
/r/seduction05/07/25 04:57 PM
1

most are. I only met 2 girls in the last year who were single. one I actually sort of liked and she moved away shortly after I met her plus she friendzoned me, and the other I had no interest in.
/r/seduction04/07/25 02:51 AM
1

northern montana. I am not moving. I freaking love it here. I work in the mountains every day, have amazing friends, get to ski 50 days a year and every month of the year. Like tomorrow I am getting up early to ski in glacier national park, then go boating with friends and watch/set off fireworks in an area known as the warzone.
/r/seduction04/07/25 02:49 AM
1

same here, I am one hell of a guy. Attractive, social, interesting life and so much more, and yet I missed my chance or girls say that they arent attracted to me.
/r/seduction04/07/25 02:41 AM
2

how do you find girls who arent married
/r/seduction04/07/25 02:41 AM
2

and then your friendzoned.
/r/seduction04/07/25 02:40 AM
1

scarcity isnt a mindset, its a fact of life, I only meet one or two girls a year who arent married (yes I know because their husbands are with them or they have a ring), almost no girl is single after 21.
/r/seduction04/07/25 02:40 AM
2

then how come us guys who have built ourselves up arent attractive to women?
/r/seduction04/07/25 02:39 AM
1

and what if no girl ever believe that you are a prize?
/r/seduction04/07/25 02:38 AM
1

I am pretty good at making girl friends, but thats all they ever are
/r/seduction25/06/25 10:34 PM
1

when I have fun with girls, they get creeped out by me
/r/seduction25/06/25 03:50 AM
1

how do you not be logical? what do you say to not be logical and how do you know when to say it?
/r/seduction25/06/25 01:42 AM
1

how do you even find clubs? When I look up clubs on google maps, its like golf clubs and stuff
/r/seduction25/06/25 12:10 AM
2

I am in kalispell mt. I make 68k a year which is 3800 take home, divide that by 3 (what is generally the required income for rentals) that puts my max rental at 1250 a month. There arent any 1 bedrooms that meet my requirements (in unit laundry, and off street parking) that are in that price point. The cheapest houses in my area are around 300-350k. Also unaffordable for me. Median individual income is 35k a year.
/r/seduction23/06/25 01:34 AM
3

have you seen the cost of apartments? I literally cant qualify for a 1 bedroom at 27, and I make 2x the median income for my area. 1 bedrooms are 1500-1600 and my 3 bedroom is 1800. No thanks, I will take 2 roommates and 600 for rent any day of the week.
/r/seduction22/06/25 11:59 PM
1

"have you seen the cost of living?" thats what I would say, a lot of us cant even afford to live alone.
/r/seduction22/06/25 11:58 PM
1

its a 2.5 hour drive, and while I go to that city from time to time, its not often enough to really become well known
/r/seduction22/06/25 10:17 PM
1

I think its a first one because I am outgoing and generally have no issues talking and chatting with new people. I will DM you for ideas though
/r/seduction21/06/25 04:37 PM
2

every yoga class I have tried is like 15 guys and 3 girls
/r/seduction20/06/25 03:19 PM
5

yes, but where do you find girls who arent married?
/r/seduction20/06/25 03:18 PM
0

10 years is nothing, many guys have gone their whole lives
/r/seduction20/06/25 03:16 PM
1

how do you answer this when you have never been in a relationship?
/r/seduction20/06/25 03:16 PM
-4

when you have a bunch of girl friends, girls will only see you as a friend
/r/seduction20/06/25 03:12 PM
1

then how come you can do as many social things as possible and still get no success?
/r/seduction20/06/25 03:12 PM
1

fair enough since you dont know me. but I do know that I am not the most attractive guy out there and since i am 27, almost no girls arent married anymore.
/r/seduction20/06/25 12:08 AM
1

friends just tell me that A) I missed my chance, and B) I am not attractive enough to be seen as more than a friend.
/r/seduction19/06/25 03:27 AM
1

what if you have a large and strong social circle but still struggle to meet single girls who are interested
/r/seduction19/06/25 02:40 AM
1

a lot of us dont even want 10s. I just want to be able to attract and go on a date with a 4 (which is super hot to me)
/r/seduction07/06/25 09:04 PM
1

how do you even get the 4s and 5s? even they are all married it seems and the single ones are far too out of my reach.
/r/seduction07/06/25 09:03 PM
2

ahh, thats how tall it takes to be successful. I am 6'2" and am invisible to every girl.
/r/seduction07/06/25 04:33 AM
2

How did you start to get yourself into situations where its appropriate to touch girls? And how did you recognize those situations and know when to touch a girl?
/r/seduction05/06/25 11:54 PM
7

Meanwhile, they're living in a city where the women don't match what they're actually into, the dating pool is shallow as a puddle, the logistics are a nightmare, the social culture is locked down tight, and everyone's already paired off and pushing strollers by 25. ----- Honestly I feel this, but I dont know how to change it, I have a very good job that tends to lead me to towns like this, and my current city is perfect for me. Friends, hobbies, work, and somewhat affordable. I wouldnt want to …
/r/seduction05/06/25 11:49 PM
1

I am in northern montana. Theres simply no work for me in LA or NYC and I cant afford to live there. Plus theres no hobbies for me there either.
/r/seduction30/05/25 09:09 PM
1

Through friends of friends, hobby groups, and church groups. Sadly I dont often meet girls who are still single. Nearly everyone is married already.
/r/seduction30/05/25 06:43 PM
1

I would say that I am a 6-7 out of 10 and have a couple professional photos. I am tall and in shape.
/r/seduction30/05/25 06:42 PM
1

how do you get 10 likes when your new? I tried dating apps for 7 years on and off and I never once got a like.
/r/seduction30/05/25 03:24 PM
5

I went for 7 years without ever getting a like so I would say that one like in two days is really good.
/r/seduction30/05/25 03:23 PM
1

I am 27. I have lots of friends and people generally think that I am a pretty cool guy. I have traveled, gone on adventures, have a good job, in really good shape, and generally live an epic life.
/r/seduction30/05/25 03:19 PM
2

what can you do if you have done that but it never got easy in your later 20s?
/r/seduction30/05/25 03:19 AM
1

interesting. I live in a ski town (not aspen or colorado, but similar) and winter is our second tourist season and actually the time of the year that I see more girls. Granted they are all married, but still I see more people in the winter.
/r/seduction21/05/25 02:08 AM
1

define weather? This is the first time i heard of that being a factor?
/r/seduction21/05/25 01:51 AM
0

I just want to hug a girl someday. Is that a dangerous goal?
/r/seduction18/05/25 03:49 PM
1

theres like 6 guys at my office. Cashiers are usually drugged out or self checkout. I work out at the office. I know the bartenders for the ciderhouses I go to (and normal bars arent my thing). Hardly any homeless, never go to the movies, neighbors never see them. theres no public transport or cab drivers. I meet people, they are just older, married, or guys who are friends of friends.
/r/seduction17/05/25 06:26 PM
4

where do you even meet 25 new people a week? I am super social but I rarely meet new people, and nowhere near 25 in a week.
/r/seduction17/05/25 04:51 PM
1

I cant think of other things to do. I am social, in shape, have a cool job, lots of friends, and cool hobbies.
/r/seduction16/05/25 09:57 PM
1

how do you even begin to change your mindset when after tons of self improvement and doing everything right, you still always fail?
/r/seduction16/05/25 07:11 PM
1

what can you do if you hate large cities and theres nothing in cities for me. No work, no hobbies, nothing in a city seems enjoyable for me.
/r/seduction16/05/25 02:27 PM
1

yep, I am over here with 40-50k people, nearly all older or married. and its 5 hours to the nearest city of 100k.
/r/seduction16/05/25 02:26 PM
1

sometimes thats 2.5 to 3 hours away.
/r/seduction16/05/25 02:25 PM
1

how is it my fault that my hot girl friends dont know any single girls?
/r/seduction11/05/25 01:59 PM
1

I wish this was the case. I have a lot of cute or hot girl friends, and I have never met another girl through them.
/r/seduction10/05/25 08:43 PM
3

I wish that was the case. None of my girl friends have ever known of or introduced me to any single girls.
/r/seduction09/05/25 04:44 AM
2

Then I have been going to the wrong places. -I am in several young adult bible studies and no single girls. -Co ed sports groups (volleyball, rock climbing, run clubs) - mostly guys and couples -bars - couples or men, young and old.
/r/seduction06/05/25 09:18 PM
3

you missed a question. Where do you even find girls who arent married?
/r/seduction06/05/25 09:09 PM
2

at least for me, my industry is 99% male and 80% older than 40.
/r/seduction06/05/25 09:07 PM
2

Ok here are my experiences as a mid/late 20s guy who has never been on a date and always been rejected. In my experiences these areas are mostly families or older people or simply empty. Where are nerdy places that are not 99% men? My local game store is only men. Bars seem to be mostly couples, men, or older guys in my area. Only time they are not is during the annual music festival and then like you said, I am not looking for a girl who is at bars during that time. I work in an older male domi…
/r/seduction06/05/25 09:07 PM
1

that makes sense, I just struggle to meet girls older than 21 who are still single.
/r/seduction06/05/25 04:30 AM
1

how does it get better when less and less girls are single the older you get?
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:20 AM
1

what if no one gives energy to you?
/r/seduction06/05/25 03:12 AM
1

its gotten to the point where, I, a guy who has never hugged a girl, could probably write a book on how to get a date.
/r/seduction04/05/25 03:11 PM
1

then what am I to do when I start to develop feelings for a close friend? Thanks for being the first person to actually give real tips on how to act. eyes and head tilt, thanks man.
/r/seduction03/05/25 10:24 PM
1

I have no idea what to say in order to put the thought of that in their heads. I am not attractive enough for a girl to be attracted to me or interested in me beyond a friendship so I think I am just out of luck.
/r/seduction03/05/25 04:35 PM
-1

I dont even understand what flirting even is, so when I start to like a girl, I am upfront about it. I am an adult, play is for kids and I havent played since I was a little kid.
/r/seduction03/05/25 04:25 PM
2

I have lots of girls as friends, but they never want anything more. So I must be doing something right.
/r/seduction03/05/25 04:16 PM
0

how do you even get enough sexual tension to get a date in the first place?
/r/seduction03/05/25 04:04 PM
1

See, I understand the logic of all this and I try, But I still have no idea what flirting even is, or what to say or how to say it.
/r/seduction03/05/25 03:32 PM
1

I will also DM.
/r/seduction03/05/25 03:30 PM
2

how can a guy become a 6? I am a solid 3 (according to photofeeler, friends, and strangers on reddit). I am tall and lean, I work out daily. I struggle to know what flirting is, but I am social and outgoing. I dress nice and have clean clothes and my own style. Barbers have given me a solid haircut and I keep my beard trimmed when I have one. I eat healthy and dont have lots of junk food. And finally I have a vibrant social life. What else can I do to bring myself up to even a 5?
/r/seduction03/05/25 03:28 PM
1

montana, close enough though. I just have to accept that I missed my chance to have standards and be picky, rather now I have to take the first girl that settles for me, if any. as well as accept that I might never hug a girl in my life. But I love it here. I work in the woods all day, and fight fire in the summer. No better life in my mind.
/r/seduction01/05/25 01:57 AM
1

unfortunately theres nothing for me in giant cities. There's no work, no hobbies and very few like minded people. Small towns are for me, I would live in a cabin in the mountains if I could afford it. Hunting, skiing, fishing, trail running and camping. At least I am in one of the largest cities in my state. Its like a 4 to 5 hour drive to a city of 100k people and a 6 hour drive to a city of 1 million and thats barely 1 million (calgary). My goal is to just find one girl who considers me good e…
/r/seduction01/05/25 01:27 AM
1

Im in a decent city of about 40k to 50k people. I never really considered target to be a grocery store and its full of kids and old people in my city.
/r/seduction01/05/25 12:34 AM
7

I did the dating app thing for close to 7 years on and off. I never once got a like or match. Whats a fancy grocery store? I have walmart, safeway, and costco in my city. It has been months since I have seen a girl without a boyfriend or ring. I dont even know of any single girls older than 21 and I have an very active social life.
/r/seduction30/04/25 03:38 AM
3

oof, I gave up apps since I went for 7 years and never got a like or match. Plus apps are dead these days.
/r/seduction30/04/25 03:07 AM
5

How are you even finding 2-3 single women, I cant even find 1.
/r/seduction30/04/25 03:04 AM
15

where are you finding that many single women and how do you even have time for 3 dates a week?
/r/seduction30/04/25 03:03 AM
1

ok, how do you find one of those venues. I dont know what to search into google maps to find them. I am pretty sure there just arent many single girls in my area. I am social 5 nights of the week and meet new people often. I have asked my friends if they know of anyone and they simply cant think of anyone. If I dont meet any single girls this year, I might just go international since it would be easier than wait for divorces to start.
/r/seduction26/04/25 10:10 PM
1

how do you find a higher end venue and how do you get in if they control who gets in? I have done occasional dance classes and its either older couples, younger couples, or guys. My climbing gym has yoga classes and I have joined in, but again girls are married or its climber guys.
/r/seduction26/04/25 08:45 PM
1

I have no idea. I am on the thin side, but I lift 4 days a week and live a very active life. I am well groomed and clean.
/r/seduction26/04/25 08:02 PM
1

such as? the normal things like bars, hobby groups, church singles/young adult groups are all the same.
/r/seduction26/04/25 08:01 PM
2

Its legit only a few times a year. I have met 2 single girls in the last year. the first said that she wasnt physically attracted to me and the second only saw me as a friend.
/r/seduction26/04/25 06:29 PM
3

exactly. Its hard enough knowing that I am not good enough yet to attract a girl, but its even harder knowing that I only get that chance to attract a girl a few times a year.
/r/seduction26/04/25 06:11 PM
1

what makes you think I am asking these girls? Its pretty easy to see if a girl has a ring or not, or is obviously with her boyfriend.
/r/seduction26/04/25 05:59 PM
1

the thing is, I am not meeting girls who are single.
/r/seduction26/04/25 04:24 PM
1

well when guys outnumber girls 10 to 1, you have to be able to compete to get a girls attention.
/r/seduction26/04/25 02:21 PM
1

how do you even increase volume when every girl you meet is in a relationship or married?
/r/seduction26/04/25 02:19 PM
4

meeting girls who arent married yet
/r/seduction26/04/25 02:19 PM
0

I dont do any better in person either because any woman who is slightly attractive and worth dating is married already. And if by the off chance that she isnt, then I have to compete against dozens of guys for her and I am just not that good yet. How do you even find women who are still single?
/r/seduction25/04/25 02:48 PM
2

if only that was true. I have a good career and a good body and I still never get matches on apps.
/r/seduction25/04/25 02:11 PM
0

bars have married couples, older guys, or younger guys looking for the rare single girl.
/r/seduction25/04/25 05:03 AM
1

guys dont get matches or likes on dating apps.
/r/seduction25/04/25 05:03 AM
1

they all seem to be married
/r/seduction25/04/25 04:47 AM
1

where are you even finding these women?
/r/seduction25/04/25 12:17 AM
1

I do the same thing. Mainly because when I go out, I never see any single girls.
/r/seduction24/04/25 11:59 PM
1

what i said isnt mindset, its the truth. If your not married by 23-25, you missed your chance and you have to compete against every other guy for one of the few remaining single girls.
/r/seduction24/04/25 12:07 AM
2

girls can flirt?
/r/seduction23/04/25 12:22 AM
3

cool, thanks for answering. much appreciated.
/r/seduction22/04/25 03:40 AM
1

no, I had a normal childhood, public school, sports, parties and so on. I have just never been attractive enough to get any girls attention and here I am now at 27 and I have never hugged a girl. Most of my girl friends are married now. If you were to see me or compare me to other guys, I am no different than they are. Quite social, have hobbies and co-ed sports, have a solid job, and just otherwise a normal 27 year old guy. I tired a few therapists when I was in college and was just told that s…
/r/seduction22/04/25 03:15 AM
1

then why is it that girls tell me that I am not attractive enough for them. I can make girl friends easily so I am doing something right I think? Sorry, I am just so confused, I want to hug a girl someday and I only really get the chance to talk to a girl who is single every few months at most if I am lucky.
/r/seduction22/04/25 02:52 AM
1

I havent made fun of anyone since I was a kid and I got my mouth washed out with soap for doing it. I am not sure I know how to do it and be playful. What lines do you say? and how do you know when to say them?
/r/seduction22/04/25 02:48 AM
1

I will add him to my watch list. I have also asked friends for help, but they have no idea why girls arent attracted to me. Its not all about game, a lot of it is looks. You need to look good enough to get into the door and I obviously dont look good enough and I dont know how to look hot.
/r/seduction22/04/25 02:43 AM
1

I guess for me, I am 27 and I almost never meet girls who are still single, its as if everyone got married without me, aside from all the single guys I know lol. I have no idea what sexual connection or things like teasing even are. compliments are brushed off and girls look away when I look at them. Most of the time when I like a girl, she only sees me as a friend and tells me that I am not attractive enough for her. I make girl friends easily, but I dont know how to be hot enough to be more th…
/r/seduction22/04/25 02:34 AM
2

when you have done that many times and get the same old rejections with no success, I tend to look to others and ask for help. I still have basic questions. Where do you meet single girls who arent married? What is flirting and how do you act and what do you say? How are you supposed to get a girl to be attracted to you?
/r/seduction22/04/25 02:04 AM
4

ok so questions break the rules but things like "5 things to do" and list the obvious like "take a shower" Doesnt break the rules? I too have given up trying to post here because every post is shadowbanned or removed. Like just now, I tried to make a post. Why is it being automatically removed?
/r/seduction22/04/25 01:52 AM
3

nothing works, is it bad that we want a little bit of direction?
/r/seduction22/04/25 01:51 AM
5

dont worry about it, no one here can offer any help. They are all wanting money to give you "their book" or something.
/r/seduction22/04/25 01:50 AM
-10

Be a 10/10 or you have no shot How do you embrace abundance when every girl is married already? and the few that arent married you have to compete against 10 to 15 guys just to get the attention of her to let her know that you exist.
/r/seduction22/04/25 12:17 AM
1

theres always some concessions you have to make in life. Me enjoying the life that I have built for myself isnt something I want to change.
/r/seduction20/04/25 04:29 PM
1

unfortunatly, that is part of my problem. Theres only 40k people or so in my city and 100k people within a 2 hour drive. Though I wont be moving, I have it pretty good here and I hate cities. Cities have nothing for me. No work, no hobbies, no friends, no escape. I would rather be happy and thriving where I am if it means I am single, over being depressed and suicidal but have a chance to go on a date in a city.
/r/seduction20/04/25 03:39 PM
1

who do you even approach? Its not often that I meet or even see a girl within 10 years of my age, and when I do, they are wearing a ring like I said, or they are with their husband or boyfriend.
/r/seduction19/04/25 03:44 PM
1

True, I am 27 and it seems that every girl is married by 21 to 25. I would cold approach more, but every girl I see around my age has a ring. My social circle is mostly married people or single guys who are in my same situation.
/r/seduction19/04/25 03:38 AM
2

I have always struggled with oneitis due to almost never meeting single girls. How do you over come that when your already super social but you only seem to meet married girls?
/r/seduction18/04/25 05:26 PM
1

several things. I am always seen as a friend when I do find a girl who is still single. And second, its so hard to even meet girls who are single. Finally, its hard for me to know if I like a girl if I am not pretty good friends with her first.
/r/seduction16/04/25 11:39 PM
3

dude, your out here telling us how to get past a kiss and here I am not able to get past a friendly high five.
/r/seduction15/04/25 11:58 PM
1

maybe a 3-4. I am pretty tall and in shape but a little thin, but not the best face. I have also never even gotten a like sent to me on any dating app. Generally I am good enough to be a girls close friend but nothing more. I have never been able to flirt or build that sex appeal thats needed to get a girl to be attracted to me or like me that way. It sucks, but I have to keep trying and maybe someday I can get that first hug and start getting a success feedback loop going.
/r/seduction15/04/25 04:08 AM
1

never
/r/seduction14/04/25 11:27 PM
2

most girls are in relationships or married past 21. now at 27, I look first for a ring. If theres no ring, I look for other guys around. if on the off chance she isnt with her boyfriend, then I pinch myself to see if I am dreaming. That hasnt happened in 2 years now.
/r/seduction12/04/25 08:09 PM
53

I did that once in college and I got 100 rejections.
/r/seduction12/04/25 08:07 PM
3

not even to get laid, but its a lot of work to just maybe get a match someday.
/r/seduction08/04/25 01:59 AM
1

what can you do to improve your profile to start getting matches? How do you develop yourself as a brand? This is coming from someone who has never gotten even a like sent to me.
/r/seduction08/04/25 01:59 AM
1

thats very true, but I love what I do and I love the life that I lead, its just a shame that I havent found a girl who wants to share this awesome life with me.
/r/seduction05/04/25 02:37 PM
1

I get home from work at about 6-6:30, dinner, shower and chores take up about an hour, and I am in bed by 9 since i have to be up by 4:30. I do try to get out in the evenings when I can. Coffee shops, doing things with friends, the lake in the summer, and bible study groups. Though I dont often meet new girls in those enviroments, or I do and they are married.
/r/seduction05/04/25 02:19 PM
1

sorry, I am a forester and in my line of work, tends to lean to more rural areas and I am too set in my career to move to just have a better chance to date. Plus I am terrified and hate cities. Theres nothing for me to do there as well. The good news is that I fly to denver every few months to visit my sister and ski/hike depending on the season.
/r/seduction05/04/25 12:20 AM
1

the only night club in my area is a western bar full of old people on dance class night when I go. I can approach people no problem, I just dont have people to approach.
/r/seduction05/04/25 12:15 AM
1

I dont even meet 2 new girls a week or maybe a month. How do you even find 2 new girls a day in the 1 or 2 hours you have after work?
/r/seduction04/04/25 07:14 PM
1

true, but at the same time, there have been women who I liked who I was 100% sure they would want to go on a date with me, but laughed it off when I asked them out. Its hard to have a mindset of a girl wants to date you when all you have experienced were rejections.
/r/seduction04/04/25 12:25 AM
2

friendzoning girls means that they like you more than a friend. Otherwise your not friendzoning, your just being friends,
/r/seduction04/04/25 12:23 AM
1

what can you do if you have a pair, a purpose and a life goal/mission and a true passion for life, but you still get rejected all the time from everyone?
/r/seduction03/04/25 11:21 PM
1

I would be happy with a 2 or 3, I am not even trying to shoot for average girls as they are so far out of my league.
/r/seduction03/04/25 11:18 PM
1

how do you friendzone girls if girls only ever want to be a friend?
/r/seduction03/04/25 11:17 PM
1

Id be happy with a 30 year old corolla with 3 stock tires and running the spare.
/r/seduction01/04/25 04:01 AM
1

maybe I had my metaphor wrong. I was trying to say that I have cultivated a life that anyone would say is productive and attractive to women. Yet, I have yet to find a girl who is even slightly attracted to me or wanting anything more than a friendship. I am at the point where I missed my chance and its so hard to even meet girls who are still single. Dating a relationships are just not in the cards for some guys and I need to learn how to accept that I wont ever experience a hug or a date.
/r/seduction30/03/25 11:31 PM
1

what can you do when you have a bomber garden but the bees are just interested in someone elses garden?
/r/seduction30/03/25 03:33 PM
1

I have not seen a girl who I was attracted to and who was single in almost a year. I am also demisexual so I have to be friends first before I have a chance to find a girl attractive. Also, I have a wide social circle, but no girls are single, nor do they know of anyone who is single. welcome to being a guy in his mid 20s, I missed my chance.
/r/seduction29/03/25 04:52 PM
1

how do you even find options or a rotation?
/r/seduction29/03/25 04:41 PM
1

I just wish I knew what I could do. My dentist told me today that I have perfect teeth. I have perfect vision. My skin doesnt really get pimples, I have barbers do what they think would look good and I have good fitting clothes.
/r/seduction29/03/25 05:43 AM
6

How can you get yourself into a place where you can display your passion and knowledge of your hobby to girls? Like I am super outdoorsy and I cant think of any time where I have been able to nerd out about wildflowers or rocks or skiing or climbing to anyone since Im alone in the mountains with my hobby or in a setting where no one cares?
/r/seduction28/03/25 11:04 PM
-1

nope, looks are everything. You have to be a perfect model or girls will only see you as a friend
/r/seduction28/03/25 05:37 PM
2

how do you even get yourself to have a glow up like that? How perfect do you need to look for girls to even give you the time of day?
/r/seduction28/03/25 05:36 PM
1

true, and its really hard realizing that no one wants to.
/r/seduction28/03/25 05:34 PM
1

but how did you get her to like you?
/r/seduction28/03/25 05:23 PM
-1

but how do you even find options in the first place?
/r/seduction28/03/25 05:22 PM
1

ok, I will keep trying to find a therapist who will say that I am autistic so that I can at least have an explanation (even if its fake since I am not autistic) to place blame on for my failure of being hot enough for any girl.
/r/seduction27/03/25 11:56 PM
2

well, ya got me there bud
/r/seduction26/03/25 11:54 PM
2

what if your a completely normal guy with no mental health issues and you struggle worse than those who have autism or other inhibiting factors? What do you say so that I can memorize as well?
/r/seduction26/03/25 12:44 AM
1

well, what if therapists dismiss any mental health issues or anything on the spectrum?
/r/seduction26/03/25 12:42 AM
1

I have never been on a date, never had a girl reciprocate my flirting attempts, not even ever hugged a girl before.
/r/seduction25/03/25 11:48 PM
1

how do you start to make that distinction once you start liking a girl though?
/r/seduction25/03/25 12:12 AM
1

thats live music lol. One of the local bars always has live music on weekends. As I said, its just couples or older people. I dont even want a hot girl, I just want to find one girl who isnt married in her mid 20s. I am very active in church groups, outdoor recreation groups (skiing and climbing), run clubs, game nights, tried to get into ice skating at the lake this winter, and I am well liked and have lots of friends. The simple matter is that I missed my chance because I wasnt able to get any…
/r/seduction23/03/25 03:05 PM
1

I can easily hold a conversation with anyone for 10 min. I dont even see girls who are model level attractiveness that often, maybe once every few months and they are married. I dont drink, so I dont go to bars often, but when I do go for trivia and live music, I NEVER see girls who are younger than 50 who arent wearing a ring. Its always guys or couples, and thats how I make friends.
/r/seduction23/03/25 02:55 PM
1

ok, in that case, I have not met an available girl in over 6 months
/r/seduction23/03/25 02:52 PM
2

ahh, I have lots of contacts with girls then, though they are all married or in relationships.
/r/seduction23/03/25 02:42 PM
1

dude, I dont even meet 100 new girls a week. I if I am lucky, I chat with 5 or 6 new girls around my age a week, mostly though hobby or interest groups. Where are you finding 4 girls an hour for 4 hours straight?
/r/seduction23/03/25 02:41 PM
1

it seems that they all have rings or are in their 60s.
/r/seduction23/03/25 02:33 PM
1

I have been trying for years and cant even get one girl on a "roster"
/r/seduction23/03/25 02:33 PM
2

how do you even find a social circle with single girls?
/r/seduction23/03/25 02:31 PM
4

Im sure it is, but I cant even find 1 girl who is single and I am not able to get her interested in me, let alone 6-8.
/r/seduction23/03/25 02:30 PM
1

sorry, but due to the nature of my work (forestry) thats not happening. I did spend 2 years in eugene (250k) oregon and didnt have luck there. I would rather live a life that I love than move just to have a chance to be rejected more often and hate my life.
/r/seduction22/03/25 10:22 PM
3

about 100k people within a 2 hour drive. Not rural but not new york city either.
/r/seduction22/03/25 09:32 PM
6

not worth if if the free version got no results. I paid for whatever their top version was a year ago hoping it would get me my first like, and I got nothing. Was a waste of money.
/r/seduction22/03/25 09:10 PM
-1

tinder at least has a userbase in my area. For me, hinge has like 10 girls on there who have had their same profile for the past 3 years.
/r/seduction22/03/25 09:09 PM
5

its so hard to meet single girls after college though
/r/seduction22/03/25 09:05 PM
1

yeah, its all about looks, nothing else.
/r/seduction22/03/25 12:32 PM
1

but you can have all that and still struggle with girls.
/r/seduction22/03/25 12:31 PM
1

the moment when you were popular in school, and are still well liked and popular, but girls simply arent attracted to you.
/r/seduction22/03/25 12:29 PM
1

no, nearly every guy is able to get a date and into a relationship with very little effort
/r/seduction22/03/25 12:28 PM
-1

then how come women dont notice me since I am in really good shape?
/r/seduction21/03/25 12:27 AM
0

no you wont. I have been working out for years and am in very good shape, I also dress well, and I have NEVER been noticed.
/r/seduction21/03/25 12:26 AM
3

yeah, like what? I cant flirt to save my life, hell, I barely even understand the concept of flirting. BUT.... I know damn well to talk like a person and not say that.
/r/seduction21/03/25 12:00 AM
2

thanks for the reply. I will save it and read it often. None of it makes sense to me now, but you have written out the most complete response that anyone has and maybe parts of it will make sense as I get older and wiser. Again, thanks for the help.
/r/seduction15/03/25 01:48 PM
2

I guess nothing will ever happen for me then since my friends will never see me as anything more if I do happen to start to like them
/r/seduction15/03/25 01:45 PM
1

I dont smoke or drink
/r/seduction15/03/25 01:41 PM
3

no matter how many lines I memorize, I still struggle with flirting or even the concept of flirting. I try to make jokes but they fall flat. Do you have any good jokes? I try to break the touch barrier, but girls always shy away. How are you supposed to enjoy the banter if you dont even know what banter is? How do you be playful. I am an adult, I havent played since I was a kid.
/r/seduction14/03/25 11:33 PM
7

I dont know what I am doing wrong when girls tell me that they arent attracted to me. I do know that when girls tell me that they only see me as a friend, that means I should have made a move sooner, but in my defence, I didnt find them attractive sooner.
/r/seduction14/03/25 10:17 PM
1

I have been with girls since I was a kid as well. I just have always been that really good friend. They tell me that I would make the perfect husband but then reject me and are unable to set me up with anyone since they dont know any girls who are interested in me, or would be interested in me. I just dont know how to make that jump from friend to boyfriend
/r/seduction14/03/25 10:10 PM
2

sadly that advice is pretty basic like "be yourself, work out, be friendly, flirt) I have yet to find anyone who can give me scripts of what to say to make girls like me more than a friend.
/r/seduction14/03/25 10:08 PM
2

ahh, i get it. I am not a good story teller and most people are not interested in the stories from my life. To be fair, would you be interested in the time I broke into a mountain hut in april to wait out a 3 day blizzard on donner pass? I can make friends super easily and I have no issues making or holding friends with girls. But I struggle to make them attracted to me.
/r/seduction14/03/25 10:07 PM
5

I have asked my friends and they just tell me that i am a good looking guy and they refuse to give me a number (gaslighting me into thinking I am attractive, I know), since they dont like the number rating system. I am pretty sure I am demisexual since I almost always need to be close friends with a girl to even find her remotely attractive. If I could have a rough gauge at my number and what girls who are also my number are, I could then figure out who to approach.
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:34 PM
1

whitefish montana
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:32 PM
1

how much older? Should I be going for women who are in their 60s or 70s? Because thats mostly what I see. If a girl looks to be around 20-50 and alone, she always has a ring.
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:28 PM
2

I guess I struggle to even know what a high value man even is or looks like. I have a good career, interesting hobbies, an interesting and exciting life, good friends, decent style, in shape and so on, but I still dont think I am a high value man since I have had nothing but rejection my whole life.
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:24 PM
2

I wish I could relate, Nearly everywhere I go, I only see older or married women, or women with a guy. I have not met (or seen) a girl who was in her mid 20s and single in close to 4 months. And I get out and live life. Coffee shops, running clubs, ski clubs, and so on. Theres no college near me and no malls that are still alive. Only thing is natural areas like parks I guess, but its winter and theres not really anyone in parks right now.
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:21 PM
0

a lot of us have never hugged a girl so we need to know basic step by step instuctions like what OP has posted so we know what to do if we are ever in a situation where we might be able to touch a girl.
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:15 PM
5

most guys dont need to put in years of hard work. Most guys have relationships without having to resort to approaching hundreds or thousands of girls.
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:11 PM
1

if self improvement is BS, then what are you supposed to do to become a high value man?
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:10 PM
1

if self improvement is BS, then what are you supposed to do to become a high value man?
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:10 PM
1

how do you find a coach that wont break the bank and actually provide results?
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:08 PM
2

how do you find a coach that wont break the bank and actually provide results?
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:08 PM
3

how do you know what number you are and how do you know what number girls are?
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:06 PM
2

how do you analyze interactions? What do you change? use a different script?
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:06 PM
2

where and how are you even meeting over 100 single girls a week?
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:05 PM
2

where and how are you even meeting over 100 single girls a week?
/r/seduction14/03/25 09:05 PM
2

not a forester lol. I spend long days in the woods talking to trees.
/r/seduction14/03/25 04:40 AM
2

not sure what your getting at, but all of my extra energy is being put into self improvement and I have a pretty solid 5 year self improvement plan.
/r/seduction12/03/25 10:23 PM
1

I know that. But aside from surgery, I dont think I can do anything. I already dress well. smell good, am in extremely good shape, tall, active, social, friendly, and so on.
/r/seduction12/03/25 06:07 PM
1

all of them? Last time I tried to hug a girl friend, repeat, FRIEND. I was turned down since she said she doesnt hug guys who she isnt seeing. I later saw her hug a mutual friend who she wasnt dating.
/r/seduction12/03/25 06:03 PM
1

how do you even get yourself into a position where you can do that move?
/r/seduction12/03/25 05:58 PM
1

how do you find clubs? I go to a dance club for dance lessons somewhat often and its mostly single guys and couples. I know to go where single women hang out but I have yet to find out where they hang out... Catch 22 it seems. This summer I am hoping to go to a Indi music festival if I dont have to work that weekend. I wanted to go the last couple summers but I couldnt find tickets since it sold out super quick, this year I missed the window but I found tickets for 3x the price online. I gave up…
/r/seduction09/03/25 08:14 PM
1

My only excuse is that I dont meet many girls who are single. How do I fix that? I am social and go out often and do things with friends and meet new people all the time, yet almost none of the girls are single. What do you change?
/r/seduction09/03/25 07:26 PM
1

none because I dont know who to approach and every girl I see is married.
/r/seduction06/03/25 02:24 PM
2

thanks for the kind words. I can assure you that I live my own life. I have fun hobbies, a solid career, a really good financial situation given that I am 27, good friends, and solid values. I will admit that I am demisexual so I have only ever felt attraction to friends. I have only ever liked 6 girls in my life and 5 of which were friends for years before i randomly started to like them. I dont even know what or who to approach and like on the street like other guys do it. I tried asking out l…
/r/seduction06/03/25 04:22 AM
2

I have watched hundreds of videos on flirting (ok a bit exaggerating, but still lots), memorized many lines, researched body language and positioning and so on, and I still have no concept of what flirting even is. I have never hugged a girl. girls are excited to do things with me, but only as a friend, I have never had a girl interested in me in anything beyond a friend. Why are hugs "ehh"? To me a hug is a magical experience that you get to share with someone. I literally cant wait to hug a gi…
/r/seduction06/03/25 04:03 AM
0

how do you go slower than a friendly side hug with a good friend?
/r/seduction06/03/25 03:56 AM
1

how do you set a vibe? I have always just been friendly and nice. I cant flirt no matter how many lines I memorize or videos I watch, I just have not figured out the basics of flirting.
/r/seduction06/03/25 03:50 AM
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but then your creepy. i have hung out with a girl I have liked 1 on 1 but not a "date" and she was weirded out when I tried to make a move (a hug) because she didnt know it was a date and she ended our friendship because I tried to make a move when she wasnt receptive.
/r/seduction06/03/25 03:27 AM
1

but if you dont call it a date, wont you get friendzoned?
/r/seduction06/03/25 02:24 AM
4

the moment when you have never gotten any of these signs...
/r/seduction27/02/25 01:55 PM
1

I only wear a watch. A garmin sports watch. I dont have tattoos and generally just haven't found a jewelry style that fits me. Mind if I DM a pic or two and you could give a suggestion?
/r/seduction27/02/25 03:53 AM
1

I dress pretty well, General outdoorsy style and clean
/r/seduction27/02/25 02:54 AM
1

I see, how do you figure out where single girls go out on the weekends?
/r/seduction27/02/25 01:25 AM
1

thanks. I try to believe that girls could be into me, but after hundreds of rejections, its really hard to believe that anymore.
/r/seduction26/02/25 04:30 AM
5

yeah, both of those are likely. I simply stated what I have done and who I am. Not as a way to increase my delusion, but to paint a picture. I am self admittedly a 3-4/10. I do struggle with finding random girls attractive and I literally have no concept of flirting so I am always just that friend.
/r/seduction26/02/25 04:29 AM
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I personally dont know where else to improve. I am 6'2" 170 pounds, active long distance runner, I lift 3 to 4 days a week. I have a general outdoorsy style to me, think boulder colorado or bozeman montana mixed with seattle washington. I have hobbies that I am very good at, skiing, climbing, backpacking, working on cars, volleyball half decent at card games and so on. I am learning german so I can go on a european ski trip next winter. I make 66k a year in my dream career in my dream location a…
/r/seduction26/02/25 01:48 AM
1

sadly, in my experience those stores are mostly older people and farmers markets are older couples and families.
/r/seduction26/02/25 01:40 AM
1

where do you even find girls at night. Other than a couple bars, everything closes by 7 or 8 in the summer and bars are mostly older men
/r/seduction26/02/25 01:39 AM
10

a man cant be sexless for that long? I am 27 and have never hugged a girl.
/r/seduction26/02/25 01:08 AM
3

what if you have done all that and are still a 3-4/10. Is it bad that I want to date a girl who has put effort into herself? It feels like every girl who puts effort into herself is automatically a 7/10 and out of my league.
/r/seduction26/02/25 01:08 AM
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what if you have done all that and are still a 3-4/10. Is it bad that I want to date a girl who has put effort into herself? It feels like every girl who puts effort into herself is automatically a 7/10 and out of my league.
/r/seduction26/02/25 01:07 AM
1

sadly not all of us have jobs that are in cities, also many of us hate cities as they have nothing for us
/r/seduction22/02/25 12:35 AM
1

I can easily make a connection, just as friends. But when I start to like a girl, she only sees me as a friend. learn to flirt? what do you even say? how do you act? What actions or movements do you take? I havent been able to ever get these answers. I am only told to be playful and flirty and express my interest that way. I am an adult, I have not played since I was a kid. I dont even know what flirty means. When I like a girl, I express my interest by telling her that I have started to like he…
/r/seduction20/02/25 03:04 AM
2

same here, I would also like to get my first ever hug.
/r/seduction20/02/25 01:34 AM
1

how do you go from step 3 to 4? No matter how many videos I watch or lines I memorize, I am unable to grasp even the basics of flirting, thus I am always seen as a friend.
/r/seduction20/02/25 01:33 AM
4

where are you even meeting 1-2 girls who are single?
/r/seduction20/02/25 01:11 AM
1

I want to hug a girl
/r/seduction20/02/25 01:10 AM
1

good points to remember, thanks. This is all greek to me since I have never gotten a girls number
/r/seduction15/02/25 05:24 PM
1

I prefer to ask for instagram or facebook because I dont have cell service 95% of the time, is this a bad thing?
/r/seduction15/02/25 05:11 PM
1

I really have no idea, I will send you what my profile looked like
/r/seduction06/02/25 03:27 PM
1

yeah, I am never interested in girls until I am close friends with them, but its not like I end up liking every close friend either. I will just keep shooting my shot whenever that shot pops up, but I have only ever liked 6 girls in my life and I am 27
/r/seduction05/02/25 01:31 PM
1

Im sorry, I think your values are a bit different than mine and you really dont understand that. I am a simple guy who is waiting for marriage and looking for a girl who is the same. I meet lots of these girls but they only see me as a friend because they are like 20 at most and I am 27. Everyone I know is married by 21 and I was in college focusing on my self instead of getting married lol and I missed my chance. I am also demisexual and simply not attracted to girls who I am not super close fr…
/r/seduction05/02/25 01:29 PM
2

I have not had any opportunities so I must have something that I need to work out, unfortunately, I have not yet figured out what that something is, but I am trying. I am open to ideas.
/r/seduction05/02/25 01:55 AM
1

I never even got a like in 7 years of trying
/r/seduction05/02/25 01:41 AM
2

what do you mean? I was personally on the apps for close to 7 years and I never got a like or a match.
/r/seduction05/02/25 01:41 AM
2

how do you show or tell your intentions? Do you just say "hey, I have started to like you, can we date?" I have tried that and have just been friendzoned. But then again, I am a broken demisexual and I didnt know I liked these girls until we were very close friends.
/r/seduction05/02/25 01:36 AM
1

and then she never texts you again...
/r/seduction05/02/25 01:35 AM
1

why is it bad to have active and outdoorsy hobbies? how do I change myself to be someone, who someone can like? What does that look like? Hobbies, interests, lifestyles etc? I already told you what type of girl I want. A christian girl who likes the outdoors. those girls exist and i am friends with them, but they are already married it seems, and I dont know how to meet those girls who are not married.
/r/seduction05/02/25 01:16 AM
2

I am also trying to figure out how to build a stronger social life. I am outdoorsy and christian and like girls who are the same. I am involved with church groups as well as hobby groups. Doing this has led me to no girls who I would be interested in, as well as no girls who are still single. How else can I build my social life?
/r/seduction05/02/25 12:30 AM
1

stop pushing dating apps. Most guys will NEVER get a like or match
/r/seduction05/02/25 12:27 AM
1

Im sorry. Is it wrong to expect some results after a lot of hard work?
/r/seduction01/02/25 03:14 PM
1

whats next when that doesnt work?
/r/seduction31/01/25 11:33 PM
1

in that case, I must not have simple logic because I have no idea
/r/seduction26/01/25 05:58 PM
1

how?
/r/seduction26/01/25 04:48 PM
1

what about the girls with like 30 followers, all of which are close family and friends and maybe posts once a year, maybe twice a year?
/r/seduction26/01/25 04:47 PM
1

80k with that job is flat out unbelievable. I make 66k now and my career will top out at about 75k which is very good for my field (forestry) I do have a couple professional photos I am into outdoorsy christian girls
/r/seduction24/01/25 01:06 AM
1

I sadly dont know how to look good. I try my best, dress well, work out, and hold myself high.
/r/seduction23/01/25 04:00 AM
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looks are the most important thing. You cant argue with that. a 3/10 guy will never get a match no matter how much effort I put in.
/r/seduction23/01/25 02:16 AM
1

Be attractive If your like me and a solid 3, 3.5 on a good day, doing those steps will do nothing for you.
/r/seduction23/01/25 02:15 AM
1

ok, sure but how do you even land a job with an 80k salary in NYC? I have never gotten a match in 7 years on apps, what makes you think I would get one there? and I am willing to bed that the girls I am interested in are not in NYC.
/r/seduction23/01/25 02:13 AM
1

then you go 7 years without a match
/r/seduction23/01/25 02:11 AM
1

only an hour? I am willing to drive 3 hours for a date lol.
/r/seduction23/01/25 02:10 AM
1

I live in northern montana and I often go months without seeing or meeting a girl I find cute or is not married.
/r/seduction23/01/25 02:09 AM
1

to a point. If you run the numbers, my dating pool is like 4 girls if I am lucky.
/r/seduction23/01/25 02:08 AM
1

its ok. no one can, we arent meant to ever have relationships or romance.
/r/seduction21/01/25 01:10 AM
0

my problem is that I am just not attracted to a girl or even interested in a girl unless we have been close friends for years I hate being demisexual, life is so broken for me to ever go on a date.
/r/seduction20/01/25 11:42 PM
2

how do you make a connection as a partner instead of a really good friend?
/r/seduction20/01/25 10:49 PM
1

yeah, I have never been on a date but I couldnt even imagine being this desperate to say any of those things
/r/seduction19/01/25 11:37 PM
1

thanks for the response. When I do start to like a girl, I make it known. I tell her that I have started to like her. Unfortunately, those girls have never shared the feelings towards me and our friendship quickly ended each time. I think I have good time management. I split between hobbies, friends, and work. I work out often, I live an active life and have cool hobbies. I am social and do decently well in social settings despite liking my alone time as an introvert. One area that I do know tha…
/r/seduction17/01/25 06:55 PM
1

What do I want - Christian, outdoorsy, loyal, funny, a sense of adventure. I have never seen a random girl and had been attracted to her. Attraction comes rarely to me, and only towards very close friends. Best way to describe it is this. You know how you can recognize when a guy is attractive, like brad pitt? But you dont feel any attraction towards him? Thats how I feel mostly with girls. I can understand that a supermodel is objectively attractive, but I had to train my mind to see that, and …
/r/seduction14/01/25 12:17 AM
1

I am not satisfied with platonic friends. I mean I love having them and stuff, but Occasionally I have a friend who I want more with, and they have never liked me back. This has only happened 6 times in my life and I am 27. I have asked out hundreds of girls, mostly random cold approaches and I was rejected every single time. Because they werent attracted to me, didnt see me that way, or could tell that I wasnt attracted to them. Which is fair because I was never attracted to the random girls I …
/r/seduction13/01/25 11:17 PM
1

I am 27 and have never hugged a girl. Yeah, it can get sad sometimes, but my life doesnt suck and thats whats important. I have a cool job, travel and hike a lot, am getting stronger and in better and better shape each day, Still learning about cool obscure topics I enjoy, and chasing hobbies and goals.
/r/seduction13/01/25 07:54 PM
2

you have more than 5 years. I am 27 and I am only starting to feel like I am approaching my prime. I have yet to hug a girl, but I am still super young and am focusing on living one hell of a life that I wont regret.
/r/seduction13/01/25 07:51 PM
1

I am 27 and I have yet to even hug a girl. Relax, its ok.
/r/seduction13/01/25 07:50 PM
1

exactly. I am 27 and I dream and will cherish the day that I first get to hug a girl. That curiosity of what a hug feels like drives me to keep trying.
/r/seduction13/01/25 07:48 PM
2

how do you plant the seeds of sexual attraction earlier if you yourself dont even know if your attracted to a girl?
/r/seduction13/01/25 07:46 PM
1

what if your not driven by sexual desire? I am driven by emotional connection. I have never looked at a girl and thought she was cute. I have only felt attraction towards a couple close friends.
/r/seduction13/01/25 07:45 PM
1

I have lived. and I do live. I live one hell of a life that girls should want to be a part of. Its their loss that they dont.
/r/seduction04/01/25 01:34 AM
1

I used to cold approach but I gave up because it was no use for me for a few reasons. I am demisexual so I am not even attracted to girls who I would approach. I am now 27. I cant remember the last time I even saw a girl who was actually single. Everyone has a ring or is with her partner. Over the years, girls have made it abundantly clear that they arent attracted to me nor interested in me. I dont want to gain the reputation as the creepy desperate guy
/r/seduction04/01/25 01:34 AM
1

when I start to like a girl I will tell her that and ask her on a date. I literally can not understand flirting no matter how many videos I watch or lines and saying I memorize.
/r/seduction04/01/25 01:31 AM
1

I do have those heartfelt and humorous conversations. but still girls arent attracted to me and only see me as a friend. I have been trying and practicing for years and yet I am 27 and have never had a girl even slightly interested in me. I have never even been considered as an option or even a back up plan. I couldnt even get a date to prom in a high school where girls outnumbered guys. I cant even get a pity hug from a close girl friend.
/r/seduction03/01/25 03:25 PM
1

by having solid feedback and success after trying it. that little bit of success drives future improvement because you start to learn what works. Many guys will never have that first bit of success.
/r/seduction03/01/25 02:59 PM
1

I dont expect sex to fall into my lap, hell I am waiting for marriage. But I would like to get my first hug and have my efforts be rewarded.
/r/seduction03/01/25 02:58 PM
-4

I am like OP and yes I am in very good shape.
/r/seduction03/01/25 02:57 PM
1

what else can you do when years (close to 10 for me) of hard work self improving has yet to pay off?
/r/seduction03/01/25 02:56 PM
1

what if you are the prize but no one sees it.
/r/seduction03/01/25 02:54 PM
1

does a sex coach also find a partner for you? I dont want sex but I do want to lose my hugging virginity, would a sex coach help with that?
/r/seduction03/01/25 02:54 PM
1

I have never expected a girl to like me and it has never happened. Dont give people false hope.
/r/seduction03/01/25 02:52 PM
1

everyone will always flake. Every time. in this day and age no one is respectful enough to keep a plan.
/r/seduction03/01/25 02:51 PM
1

I am in montana currently. Yes, co ed sports are awesome. I play volleyball and ultimate frisbee in the summer. Unfortunately, even with those groups, I almost never meet girls who are single, they are always married or in a relationship. And I am only 27. When I lived and went to college in the PNW, I met single girls all the time, my issue there was that I wasnt compatible with any of them, mostly due to the religious factor.
/r/seduction01/01/25 02:31 PM
1

I totally would if I ever saw a girl who didnt have a ring or was with a guy.
/r/seduction01/01/25 02:29 PM
1

where are you even finding girls to approach? Nearly every girl I see is with a guy who is far better than I am.
/r/seduction01/01/25 06:50 AM
1

getting a match is literally the hardest part.
/r/seduction01/01/25 06:49 AM
1

and then you go 6 years without any likes or matches...
/r/seduction01/01/25 06:49 AM
1

how do you even find social groups with women who are single in their mid 20s? I rock climb, ski, church groups and bar trivia groups. I almost never meet girls who are still single.
/r/seduction01/01/25 06:48 AM
1

then what do you do if you have done that and girls still arent interested?
/r/seduction01/01/25 06:47 AM
1

I guess for me, I would rather be happy and single over being miserable in a huge scary city and still likely single.
/r/seduction25/12/24 02:14 AM
3

I guess for me, i would rather be happy and single than miserable in a scary city and still single.
/r/seduction25/12/24 02:13 AM
2

I would rather die than move. I love my life here, I have friends, hobbies, my dream job and everything else.
/r/seduction24/12/24 11:01 PM
5

I am literally in my dream job and I cant imagine doing anything else. Plus theres simply no housing within a half hour of my office and I cant afford to live in the town thats between my city and the office.
/r/seduction24/12/24 11:00 PM
2

I would rather die than move from where I am living. i love it here and there is no place better.
/r/seduction24/12/24 10:58 PM
2

Theres no clubs in my city. The bars are older men. During the day? I work alone and rarely see people when I am at work.
/r/seduction24/12/24 03:54 AM
12

no, I just have work. I leave a bit after 5 in the morning and dont get back until 6 at night. that leaves a couple hours to do chores, eat dinner and get cleaned up before I am in bed.
/r/seduction24/12/24 03:53 AM
1

I have lived in a few different places. when there has been a mall its usually empty and a lot of shops are out of business. Where I currently live, its just a strip mall of box stores
/r/seduction24/12/24 01:34 AM
-1

do you live in the 80s? I havent seen a mall since I was a little kid.
/r/seduction24/12/24 01:26 AM
18

do you not have a job? I am in bed by 9 each night.
/r/seduction24/12/24 12:28 AM
5

where do you even find 25 girls in a week?
/r/seduction24/12/24 12:27 AM
1

I am demisexual so thats really hard to do for me since when I like a girl, we have usually been friends for a while. Girls generally dont smile at me when I meet them. I have never gotten any signs of interest or reciprocation from a girl.
/r/seduction13/12/24 03:15 PM
1

I have a pretty good social life and am doing something social most evenings. I am in really good shape. I am thin/lean, but I lift 3 days a week and run A LOT. Like I am training for a 50k next summer. Most of my hobbies are outside, climbing, skiing. But I am also building a wooden ship model. I could be better at having value skills. I can sort of cook, but I am not creative or musical at all. I earn a modest income and am frugal. I am very independent so I dont think I am needy or clingy. Be…
/r/seduction13/12/24 04:01 AM
2

in my experience, only guys go to those things.
/r/seduction13/12/24 01:06 AM
1

how can you develop attractive traits to get yourself into the door? I am currently stuck outside lol.
/r/seduction13/12/24 01:06 AM
1

how do you go on from making friends? I am doing what I am supposed to and being social but all I can ever make is friends? How can I get girls to be attracted to me?
/r/seduction13/12/24 01:05 AM
1

I am demisexual so I dont care about looks, I have not given out my number in years because I have not met a girl who was either single, or reciprocated interest in years.
/r/seduction12/12/24 02:05 AM
-1

how do you even find eligible girls on instagram?
/r/seduction12/12/24 01:13 AM
1

you can be far above the "low bar" and still be invisible to women.
/r/seduction12/12/24 01:13 AM
0

what else can you do if you do all those steps and still are unable to stand out?
/r/seduction12/12/24 01:11 AM
2

as a guy who isnt really attracted to girls this is how I had to do it when I tried approaching in the past.
/r/seduction08/12/24 02:59 PM
1

doing all that has turned me from a 2 to a 4. And I still am only attracted to 9s.
/r/seduction07/12/24 04:20 PM
1

Its 100% physical appearance because lots of girls want to be my friend. I cant fix genetics if I am too ugly to get a date.
/r/seduction07/12/24 02:48 PM
1

the only thing I can think of is just being rejected by every girl I have liked or asked out.
/r/seduction07/12/24 04:06 AM
2

what if none of those are the case and you still have attachment issues?
/r/seduction07/12/24 03:37 AM
2

can I also DM?
/r/seduction07/12/24 03:36 AM
1

what can you do if your area doesnt really have any of these events? All my area really has is a run club (mostly men and an occasional couple) and church groups (same situation)
/r/seduction07/12/24 03:32 AM
1

how do you find a wingman who isnt married?
/r/seduction04/12/24 01:07 AM
2

ahh, I am 3 hours from the nearest college, that would explain it
/r/seduction22/11/24 05:09 PM
2

ok, I will try those lines if I ever get into a place to use them
/r/seduction22/11/24 04:17 PM
2

yes and I left even more confused than when I started
/r/seduction22/11/24 04:14 PM
1

target is old people
/r/seduction22/11/24 04:04 PM
1

for me, the nearest college is 3 hours away. Theres bars but its all couples or older people.
/r/seduction22/11/24 04:04 PM
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teasing is rude and mean and offputting
/r/seduction22/11/24 04:01 PM
2

that makes no sense
/r/seduction22/11/24 04:00 PM
16

thanks for actually giving me lines I can use if I ever need to. But... all those lines are sleazy and terrible. If i was a girl I would hate being told those things. Do girls actually like it?
/r/seduction22/11/24 03:59 PM
25

what if you have no idea if its a play fight or not. Now I am just even more confused
/r/seduction22/11/24 03:58 PM
1

yep thats me. Which usually means a friendship and thus the friendzone also, what state?
/r/seduction16/11/24 04:07 PM
1

yes. I have never gotten a match or even a like on an app. I also dont get any dates in person either.
/r/seduction16/11/24 03:02 AM
1

I will DM you what my profile looks like
/r/seduction15/11/24 09:05 PM
1

I honestly have no idea. I look pretty decent. I have a thriving social life. I have a fun and adventurous life. I do cool shit. I have a stable career which is my passion. I am in phenomenal shape. I am 6'2" 170 pounds. I lift 3 days a week. I run often and am training for an ultramarathon.
/r/seduction15/11/24 07:01 PM
1

I have been alone my whole life. I am tired of doing things alone and being happy with it. I was to share my life with someone. I want to be able to come home from work and take my girl to a nice dinner. I want to be able to wake up on a camping trip and make eggs and coffee for a girl. at 27 is that too much to ask?
/r/seduction15/11/24 06:59 PM
1

I do that. I have no expectations. well thats a lie. I expect that I will die alone and never go one a date.
/r/seduction15/11/24 06:37 PM
1

apps are dry. bars are older guys or couples. I have lived in many different places and its the same story everywhere
/r/seduction15/11/24 06:36 PM
1

and what can you do when even the plain jane girls, or girls you have no attraction to, reject you?
/r/seduction15/11/24 04:22 PM
1

where do you even meet or find 5 girls around your age who are single?
/r/seduction15/11/24 04:21 PM
1

how do you not do this when you have had constant rejection your whole life and have never had any positive feedback?
/r/seduction15/11/24 04:20 PM
1

yes, then what is it called when I have to be friends with a girl in order to like her or find her attractive. I have never found a girl hot who I didnt know. I have talked to therapists on this and all agree with me and have helped me come to this confusion. I am sorry my therapists are not telling me what you want them to tell me
/r/seduction15/11/24 04:10 PM
1

even dating apps are empty after a few days. Plus I cant get any matches.
/r/seduction15/11/24 01:09 AM
1

so you understand what I am saying then
/r/seduction15/11/24 01:07 AM
1

I have no idea. I believe that I look good, and I have a good social life with lots of friends, but thats all girls see me as, is friends. I have had many girls try to set me up and still had the same results. Nearly every girl I meet says I would make the perfect husband.
/r/seduction14/11/24 01:15 AM
1

Demi sexual. Look it up? I am not attracted to random girls. I have never found a random girl hot. Only somewhat cute once in my life.
/r/seduction14/11/24 01:12 AM
2

I can easily do that with guys, but unfortunately, a girl has never smiled at me
/r/seduction13/11/24 04:56 AM
1

I am an outdoorsy christian guy and am looking for the same, so I am already fighting an uphill battle since theres not too many of them. However, those who do exist are never attracted to me or interested to me beyond a friend. I will do some introspection on how I approach and talk to girls and see if theres any quirk or oddity.
/r/seduction13/11/24 04:26 AM
1

I can build report since I am confident and super social, but I have never been able to build attraction. I believe I look really good but I still havent been able to have a girl be attracted to me.
/r/seduction13/11/24 04:24 AM
2

thanks. I have tried different locations and I have settled to live in a place that brings happiness aside from lots of women. Wrong women? Possibly, but I dont even know what women to try with. How can you start to identify a possible quirk? I have asked friends what is holding me back and no one (guys and girls) have any idea why I struggle.
/r/seduction13/11/24 01:40 AM
1

how do you get to the point where its even an option to try to touch a girl? Every time I have tried to "accidentally" brush up against a girl, she recoils away.
/r/seduction13/11/24 01:38 AM
3

how do you get to the point where sitting next to a girl and having your legs touch is an appropriate action?
/r/seduction13/11/24 01:37 AM
3

how do you be edgy? what sort of actions should I do?
/r/seduction13/11/24 01:37 AM
4

how do you develop inner game if people generally like you and you already are confident and social and funny?
/r/seduction13/11/24 01:36 AM
4

where are you finding these single girls in public. Almost everyone around my age (27) has a ring.
/r/seduction13/11/24 01:35 AM
5

yep, I am proof of that. People and girls will always tell me that I am a good looking guy, but as far as I know, not a single girl has ever found me attractive.
/r/seduction13/11/24 01:34 AM
3

I am 27 and I did all those things from 18-23 and beyond. It made no difference whatsoever. What else can you do if you do what your supposed to with self improvement and still cant get or find a girl who is interested in you?
/r/seduction13/11/24 01:27 AM
1

then how do you do it if no girls like you?
/r/seduction13/11/24 01:24 AM
1

Ill dm
/r/seduction11/11/24 05:26 PM
4

I actually had a t check a few years ago and it came back above average. Here are the answers to your questions Boner from seeing hot girl - Never Morning Wood - Every day Sexual dream - most nights Porn - I dont watch, but turned me on years ago when I last watched Muscle growth - very difficult Think about sex - fairly often, or rather the desire to cuddle up on the couch with a girl. I am on no meds. I am simple a guy who almost always needs to be close friends before I like a girl. I can thi…
/r/seduction11/11/24 04:39 PM
1

then what can you do if your demisexual and have only ever been attracted to friends?
/r/seduction11/11/24 02:30 PM
2

then what can you do if your demisexual and have only ever been attracted to friends?
/r/seduction11/11/24 02:30 PM
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yep, it will never happen for a lot of guys and there is nothing we can do about it
/r/seduction09/11/24 08:21 PM
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yep, I am 27 and have never been on a date. I know I missed my chance since everyone is married and I dont want to date an 18 year old.
/r/seduction09/11/24 08:20 PM
1

True. I am currently trying to learn how to turn multi year long friendships into a relationship
/r/seduction03/11/24 04:53 AM
1

how can you get out of that trap if your only ever attracted to friends?
/r/seduction03/11/24 04:04 AM
2

Then why is it that all my girl friends tell me that they hate being approached?
/r/seduction20/10/24 02:44 PM
1

Where do you even find girls to approach? I am active in church groups - no one single in my age range hobby groups like the climbing gym - mostly guys bars with live music - mostly older guys or couples dance lessons - mostly couples or guys.
/r/seduction13/10/24 04:29 PM
1

new women? Maybe 1 or 2, I know most people and most people I meet are married or friends of friends. Of those who I meet most are out of my age range, married, in relationships or girls who I wouldnt be interested in. I simply dont know how or were to meet girls who are single and in their mid 20s.
/r/seduction13/10/24 03:10 PM
1

I am 27, make 66k a year at a stable government job I love, I have a decent apartment (roommate only I am trying to save for a house). I am 6'2" in the best shape of my life (runner build) and work out daily. I have hobbies that I am very good at and love. I have a loving family and amazing friend groups. I do something social almost every night of the week. I honestly dont know much else I can improve at. Sure I have some goals and stats that I want to reach. but I am at the point where those a…
/r/seduction13/10/24 04:00 AM
2

then why is it that I am the best person I can be and yet every girl still rejects me
/r/seduction12/10/24 11:17 PM
2

I doubt you will see this or respond, but I dissagree with most of these. I have a much smaller pool than on apps. On apps I know a girl is single and they allow me to potentially meet girls who I wouldnt cross paths with. Its hard to have self development when you have no idea what your doing wrong Its is not fun when you always get rejected. at least with apps, you can swipe and then go about your day knowing that you wont get matches I agree with this one mostly. Yes I am in control of who I …
/r/seduction12/10/24 11:15 PM
1

Only once or twice when I was in high school. Otherwise I have to be super close friends with a girl before theres a chance I find her attractive
/r/seduction11/10/24 12:11 AM
1

how can you avoid the friendzone when you have to be friends with a girl to like her?
/r/seduction10/10/24 02:30 AM
1

I do agree with not having a soul mate. But for a guy who is almost never attracted to a girl, when I am actually attracted to a girl and she doesnt like me back, I feel crushed. How can guy who only likes one girl every few years not feel pressure when he does find a girl he likes?
/r/seduction29/09/24 11:48 PM
1

How do I create sexual tension when I am not attracted to girls to begin with? I mean, I am, but I have only ever been attracted to 6 girls in my life and all were very close friends who I had known for years. I have also tried chatting with girls I have met for up to an hour, but also been rejected since they arent interested in me. I am on apps, but I dont even know who to swipe on so I just swipe randomly and I get no likes or matches.
/r/seduction27/09/24 07:00 PM
1

thanks. yeah, friendzoning is my life. and to be fair, I am not attracted to girls until I am super close to them, and even the, I am not normally attracted to them. I think demisexual is the term. Location is against me. I do live in a city of 40k and its 2.5 hours to the next largest city with a college and it only has 75k people. But I go there often. Beyond that, its 4 to 5 hours before a larger city. Welcome to northern montana. But I wouldnt trade it for the world.
/r/seduction27/09/24 06:57 PM
1

right women? - I go for girls similar to myself. I did try the random asking out thing and that didnt work and thats how I got most of my rejections theres plenty of reasons for girls to be interested in me. I am fun, attractive, financially stable, interesting and so on. I have no idea what my league is. I could be doing something that rubs girls the wrong way but i have lots of girl friends who say I am not. I get rejected when I get to know a girl, start to like her, and ask her out because s…
/r/seduction27/09/24 05:15 PM
1

dont get me wrong. I am lean. 6'2" 175 pounds. I lift a few days a week, but I would much rather run 30 miles in the mountains over other things. And with my job (forester in the woods) I need to be more of a lean build to hike and pack a lot of weight in the woods. I have a good career with amazing benefits and a 66k salary (80k this year with overtime). I am not looking for sex. I am looking to get married and settled down.
/r/seduction27/09/24 04:21 PM
2

why is this the basic advice. do guys really not do this? I work out (mostly running, no interest in getting big), wear nice clothes, get haircuts and no on. I have a very good social life and go to events, groups, or parties most evenings. But I almost never meet single girls now that I am 27. Plus when I do meet single girls, they are never interested in me. and I am not interested in them.
/r/seduction27/09/24 03:50 PM
8

how do you go from step 2 to 3. -signed a 27 year old guy that has been rejected by hundreds of girls
/r/seduction27/09/24 03:15 PM
3

not always, you can be tall and athletic and still not have any luck
/r/seduction27/09/24 03:14 PM
1

ok. I think my issue lies with I have no idea which women look good. and that I have never had a girl be willing to have a conversation with me
/r/seduction21/09/24 04:22 PM
1

then how do I increase my luck? asking out hundreds of random girls in a day?
/r/seduction21/09/24 03:26 PM
1

yes, how can I stop that?
/r/seduction21/09/24 03:26 PM
2

ok, I will try that, what exactly should I write?
/r/seduction21/09/24 03:26 PM
1

do you you just ask out random girls then? How do you decide who to ask out?
/r/seduction21/09/24 03:25 PM
1

thats my problem. I dont know if I am attracted to a girl until I like her, and I have only liked girls if we are close friends for a while first. so how do you decide if your attracted to a girl? I know what I want. A christian girl who is outdoorsy.
/r/seduction21/09/24 03:24 PM
1

yep, I agree and I do that
/r/seduction21/09/24 07:05 AM
0

what do you mean by triangulation and low optionality? and how do I address it? I am not wishy washy. When I like a girl, I am forward about it and tell her. Its just that I have to be close friends with a girl for a while before I have any chance of liking her or finding her attractive.
/r/seduction21/09/24 07:04 AM
1

yeah, we are just close friends and then I start to like them, thats when they tell me that they only see me as a friend
/r/seduction21/09/24 07:03 AM
1

so should I adopt the mindset that I want to sleep with every girl? Like, I dont (waiting for marriage) plus I am simply not attracted to girls until we are close friends. so should I just pretend to like a girl and hope that real feelings come after a while (could be years)
/r/seduction21/09/24 12:26 AM
2

I am not OP but I am similar, maybe 100 approaches with all being rejections. I tended to approach random girls and make a fun conversation and go from there. Only like 10 were single from what I could tell. I am simply not a funny person, no matter how many jokes I memorize. and I dont know how to buidl tension.
/r/seduction21/09/24 12:25 AM
1

what if you dont know your intentions until you are very close friends with a girl? I would love to make my intentions known, but I dont even know my own intentions. when I do know my intentions I ask them out and get told that I am just a friend.
/r/seduction21/09/24 12:17 AM
3

After that, it’s a matter of getting more interesting, confident, socially savvy, and cultivating a masculine energy about yourself - How? People always say this and then never follow up with any actionable things to actually do.
/r/seduction21/09/24 12:16 AM
1

what can you do when every girl just wants to be friends?
/r/seduction21/09/24 12:15 AM
1

what if you dont know your intentions until you are very close friends with a girl? I would love to make my intentions known, but I dont even know my own intentions. when I do know my intentions I ask them out and get told that I am just a friend.
/r/seduction21/09/24 12:12 AM
2

how do you give off a sexual vibe? what is a sexual vibe? What do you say to flirt? How do I become a challenge? How do I become interesting?
/r/seduction21/09/24 12:12 AM
2

what if you dont know your intentions until you are very close friends with a girl? I would love to make my intentions known, but I dont even know my own intentions. when I do know my intentions I ask them out and get told that I am just a friend.
/r/seduction21/09/24 12:11 AM
2

what are some reasons to doing things wrong? what is the correct formula?
/r/seduction21/09/24 12:08 AM
2

how do you build fun attraction if girls simply arent attracted to you to begin with?
/r/seduction21/09/24 12:08 AM
5

half of these are just basic friend things. That being said. Its nice to know that I have never gotten IOIs sent my way.
/r/seduction19/09/24 12:57 AM
5

A lot of outdoor sports. Rock/mountain climbing, backpacking, skiing.
/r/seduction13/09/24 04:41 PM
3

some of us live really cool lives and girls still dont want to be a part of them
/r/seduction13/09/24 03:15 PM
1

ok, I will start asking out every girl I could see myself as friends with
/r/seduction13/09/24 12:08 AM
1

date new girls? Who do I date, do I just ask out every girl until one says yes? I have no idea who I am interested in until we are super close friends
/r/seduction12/09/24 04:24 AM
2

so I understand that logically, but its the same thing every time. I fall for a girl but she only sees me as a close friend. so I take whatever time it takes me to move on, but give it a year or so and I fall for another friend of mine. How can I make the transition from friend to relationship? How do I like other girls when my friends who I fall for never like me back?
/r/seduction12/09/24 01:21 AM
3

Work on yourself first and foremost (career, exercise, money, mentality etc) and the girls will come to you over time. - this isnt the case. I have worked on myself for years and girls are still never interested in me. What do I need to change?
/r/seduction12/09/24 12:36 AM
1

if that was the case we would all have dating resumes so we know who we even want to interview
/r/seduction12/09/24 12:35 AM
2

What if you have only ever fallen for girls who are close friends? Like I dont know how to be interested in girls who I dont really know.
/r/seduction12/09/24 12:34 AM
2

how do you be interested in other girls if you like one? when I like a girl, I fall hard and she always turns me down because we are close friends. How do I be interested in other girls?
/r/seduction12/09/24 12:33 AM
1

yep, I did that
/r/seduction06/09/24 03:53 PM
1

Can I send my last attempt over to you to see? I truly believe that I maximized my profile.
/r/seduction06/09/24 03:53 PM
1

how did you do that? I did what I could to improve my profile and still didnt get anywhere.
/r/seduction06/09/24 03:42 PM
5

I did all that and I still never got a like or match.
/r/seduction06/09/24 03:39 PM
1

I did that for 5 years and I never once got a like or match. I have now sworn off apps and am focusing on in person events to meet girls, which is also a struggle, but at least its fun.
/r/seduction06/09/24 03:37 PM
2

exactly. 100k is a huge city for me.
/r/seduction06/09/24 02:53 AM
1

I think that they do but the lack of likes and matches say otherwise. I can send over my last attempt at tinder from a year ago if you would like.
/r/seduction05/09/24 12:26 AM
2

I have a stable government job in a cool line of work, have a decent apartment, work out, have a strong social life, cool hobbies and lots of epic stories from those hobbies. How can I make myself a high status guy?
/r/seduction04/09/24 04:11 AM
6

you can do all that and still get no likes or matches.
/r/seduction04/09/24 12:02 AM
1

When I tried online dating, I centered my profile around that one outdoorsy adventurous guy, but I got no likes or matches. Is this a poor archtype?
/r/seduction03/09/24 11:59 PM
4

where did I way that I was unhappy? I enjoyed myself. My friends know that I am looking but none of my friends know of any single girls who would be interested.
/r/seduction01/09/24 09:04 PM
0

If they can do it why can't you? This is the biggest question. What do they have that I dont? For me? Nothing. Theres nothing different about guys who are in a relationship that myself. so why is it that I struggle?
/r/seduction01/09/24 05:36 PM
4

I am also feeling like OP. Yesterday I spent the afternoon at a lake with a few friends, then went to a chill house party for a game night with some new people who I dont know that well. There wasnt any girls there who were single though.
/r/seduction01/09/24 05:33 PM
3

Instagram is for my friends, I dont even know how to find random girls on that app. I have sworn off apps - 5 years without likes or a match Parks are either empty, kids, or homeless same with library I do like coffee shops - I go to a board game coffee shop often. beaches? none near me bar - mostly old crusty guys
/r/seduction20/08/24 03:26 AM
2

where do you find more girls?
/r/seduction20/08/24 03:08 AM
1

I am waiting for marriage and nothing will change that
/r/seduction19/08/24 04:21 AM
1

I have never been attracted to a girl who wasnt a close friend of mine, so wanting to sleep with a girl is like greek to me, Incomprehensible. I will watch my married friends and youtube. as well as keep trying. I have hundreds of rejections so with even more I will eventually learn or get lucky enough to touch a girl or give her a hug. thanks for the help. I will save them and refer to them as needed. your awesome.
/r/seduction18/08/24 11:33 PM
1

so how do you even know if you want to sleep with a girl and how do you act sexual? How do you even get to a point where you can do a high five or even a touch on the shoulder, let alone a hug (I have never hugged a girl)
/r/seduction18/08/24 11:24 PM
1

how do you flirt, what do you say and when? do you have any scripts I could memorize?
/r/seduction18/08/24 10:51 PM
0

because they dont know any other single girls, or they dont know any girls who would be interested in me... or they introduce me and once again, I make a new friend.
/r/seduction18/08/24 10:51 PM
1

as if you want to fuck with them - then how do I act that way? I DONT want to sleep with girls (waiting for marriage). I dont even know how to be sexual, what do you even say? How do you act? What moves do you do and when do you do them?
/r/seduction18/08/24 10:49 PM
1

I would say that I am generally pretty confident. Tend to be better in areas where I am comfortable or an expert. I talk to a lot of girls in a week, they are just married or in a relationship. About half of my friends are girls, I dont have a number, but in my core group its like 4 girls who I am very close to, and I would consider another 10 to be pretty good friends I can hang with. I am a friendly person and people are usually open with me, conversation is easy.
/r/seduction17/08/24 02:21 AM
1

I understand that, I just wish I knew what was wrong with me
/r/seduction17/08/24 01:53 AM
0

then why hasnt it worked yet? I have been being myself since 18 and here I am at 27 and still have never been on a date
/r/seduction16/08/24 09:44 PM
0

Basically, if you want girl = DONT BE A SIMP and BE YOURSELF, - I wish that was the case.
/r/seduction16/08/24 03:14 PM
2

yes, but its nearly impossible to get alone with a woman.
/r/seduction16/08/24 03:12 PM
3

I have been told a few common reasons. "sorry but Im not attracted to you" or "your not attractive enough for me to want to date you" "I only see you as a friend" "Im actually not single"
/r/seduction04/08/24 08:40 PM
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all help you get that chance - what else can you do to get that chance when your list doesnt work?
/r/seduction01/08/24 12:17 AM
4

and how do you get past the looks threshhold? I have never gotten past it.
/r/seduction01/08/24 12:17 AM
1

I have tried since I was 18. For 4 years in college I tried to get 1 rejection a week. This was a real rejection where I talked to a girl, established a connection and then asked for her date. Thats 200 rejections right there. Thats not even counting the rejections where a girl wouldnt even talk to me, which would be hundreds more. I have mostly given up now. I am 26 and have not met a girl who was single in over 6 months. I missed my chance and have to be ok with knowing I did my best to get a …
/r/seduction28/07/24 05:07 PM
1

the thing is getting that first number. A lifetime of rejection with no success really drags someone down.
/r/seduction27/07/24 11:27 PM
1

I am active in young adult church groups, co ed sports (volleyball and ultimate frisbee), outdoors hobbies (skiing and climbing groups). I have a very good social life and know lots of people, but they dont really know any single girls, and those who they do know, they say that they wouldnt be interested in me.
/r/seduction27/07/24 11:03 PM
1

Im not in a bigger city though. I have slowed down to be honest because its been months since I have met a girl who was actually single.
/r/seduction27/07/24 09:34 PM
1

how do you deal with hundreds of rejections with no success. Not even a number? How do you not let that get to you?
/r/seduction27/07/24 09:25 PM
1

well, I can, and yet I cant even find a door to open.
/r/seduction27/07/24 09:25 PM
2

in 2016 at 18 when I started college. I have yet to get any results but I love trying to better myself and love striving to hopefully get a girls number someday
/r/seduction27/07/24 09:17 PM
1

I know I am below average considering I have never had a girl be interested in me, I have never gotten a like on dating apps in the 5 years that I tried them, and people always say that I have a good personality as a friend.
/r/seduction27/07/24 05:12 PM
1

I have never had a girl hit on me or show interested in me in the slightest. so I think I am right when I say that I am below average. How can you improve if you have done what you can and are still below average? thanks for the help.
/r/seduction27/07/24 04:04 PM
1

then how do you figure out how attractive you really are?
/r/seduction27/07/24 03:26 PM
3

wow, a good post instead of blanket, "just do what I do bro", posts. Thank you, I will be saving this for if I ever go on a date.
/r/seduction11/07/24 11:36 PM
0

I wish that was true. I know exactly what I want and that girl simply doesnt exist (or is married already) by her mid 20s, so I have missed my chance.
/r/seduction11/07/24 08:50 PM
7

99% of meetups these days are online spiritual healing groups or senior center stamp collecting.
/r/seduction07/07/24 10:43 PM
0

what else can you do if you have a large social circle and lots of friends and you still never meet girls who are single. I feel that post college every girl is married.
/r/seduction07/07/24 10:42 PM
0

fair enough. But I do what I can to find a girl
/r/seduction07/07/24 06:07 AM
0

what advice do you have for someone who struggles to even meet girls who are single?
/r/seduction06/07/24 11:17 PM
4

no. most guys will never get a like or match
/r/seduction06/07/24 11:16 PM
7

Where are you meeting these single girls so that you actually have options?
/r/seduction06/07/24 02:14 PM
1

M26. I am christian and waiting for marriage. I have never been on a date, always turned down, and now I have missed my chance since theres no single girls anymore. Plus I am ugly and undatable according to every girl I have asked out.
/r/seduction03/07/24 01:56 PM
1

I just sent it again
/r/seduction01/07/24 03:35 AM
1

I will DM you what my last profile was. I am waiting for marriage so I dont want sex.
/r/seduction30/06/24 06:01 PM
1

and I have good pictures
/r/seduction30/06/24 03:09 PM
2

single girls dont exist
/r/seduction30/06/24 02:31 PM
1

my town has none of those
/r/seduction30/06/24 02:25 PM
0

no. Seattle is far better than my small montana town.
/r/seduction30/06/24 02:23 PM
3

I have friends, a good social life, and I have approached. I havent met a girl who was single in over a year.
/r/seduction30/06/24 02:12 PM
2

I cant even get a like or a match on a dating app and I tried for 5 years.
/r/seduction30/06/24 02:12 PM
5

ok, you must be rich, thats why girls like you. 70 people at a house is a lot. at most I invite maybe 5 people over to my apartment.
/r/seduction29/06/24 10:30 PM
1

do you just host these parties at local parks?
/r/seduction29/06/24 04:22 PM
5

Create an event where you invite locals to something fun, organize everything and do it every week, guess what? those 3 to 5 hours are now your best source of hot women so you never have to worry about getting girls again - that assumes that girls show up.... I help organize a young adult volleyball group. Its nearly all guys.
/r/seduction29/06/24 04:22 PM
1

how do you even get 1 girl in a "roster"
/r/seduction29/06/24 04:18 PM
10

thats the thing. None of these "gurus" will tell you. They are grifters who cant help guys like us.
/r/seduction29/06/24 04:17 PM
8

how do you act like a preselected man? I have no idea what that is even like? What do I do?
/r/seduction29/06/24 04:16 PM
1

how are my hobbies bad? I ski in the winter. run, climb and hike in the summer. I play coed volleyball, I play board games with friends. I go to dance lessons. I meet girls but none are single and theres always 3x as many guys as girls. What hobbies are mostly girls?
/r/seduction29/06/24 04:14 PM
7

sadly theres no girls there
/r/seduction29/06/24 03:20 AM
1

thats how you make friends
/r/seduction28/06/24 09:33 PM
1

and thats how you make friends....
/r/seduction28/06/24 09:33 PM
1

did you get my DM with my profile?
/r/seduction28/06/24 07:43 PM
1

theres not even a mall for me to go to. Only like 2 clothing stores as well.
/r/seduction28/06/24 07:42 PM
1

Ill dm it to you
/r/seduction28/06/24 04:11 PM
1

yep, 5 years on dating apps and I never once got even a like sent to me.
/r/seduction28/06/24 01:53 PM
4

some of us have jobs... I go to the lake an evening or two after work each week, its mostly kids, my friends or old people. Where do people in their 20s actually go? Bars are old people or couples, parks are homeless. again where are these groups? I can do this pretty easily given I actually meet people I have never gotten this far, whenever I ask for a number I have been turned down or told that she has a boyfriend 5-10 times a day? When? I get home at 6-7 and go to bed around 9? How do you fin…
/r/seduction28/06/24 01:52 PM
6

I have been doing that my whole life and I still have never gone on a date. What else do I do?
/r/seduction28/06/24 12:33 AM
1

How do you make the jump from step 1 to step 2?
/r/seduction28/06/24 12:29 AM
1

I am pretty sure I am, but I dont know how to get a friend to be attracted back to me
/r/ExRedPill19/06/24 03:20 AM
1

I mean it normally takes years of a close friendship for me to find girls attractive
/r/ExRedPill18/06/24 10:05 PM
3

How do I give off sexual tension if I dont even know if I am attracted to a girl until we are super close friends?
/r/seduction17/06/24 03:50 AM
1

True, but honestly, I want a simple down to earth girl. I dont even ever want to take luxury vacations myself. A fancy dinner for me is any place where you sit down to order lol.
/r/seduction17/06/24 03:50 AM
2

Though it might not be the type of women you’d actually want - your right on. In my area median family income is 60k so I think I am doing pretty good at 75k. Sadly I cant afford a house due to rich people moving in and buying up all the real estate (gotta love touristy areas)
/r/seduction17/06/24 03:30 AM
2

money and body? I am 6'2" and 175 pounds, thin but athletic and in shape. I made 75k last year and am hoping to hit 80k this year. Really good for my lower paying field. I have my own apartment, drive a new car, and have a healthy retirement fund at 26. I try to talk to as many girls as possible. I just dont know where to meet girls who are actually single?
/r/seduction17/06/24 02:57 AM
1

yep, done that, not sure what else I can do.
/r/seduction17/06/24 02:53 AM
6

I am not sure its either. I look pretty decent, tall, low body fat, workout and have good fashion. I am friendly and social and have no problems making friends or getting to know people. The truth is, that girls only see me as a friend. part of it is my fault since I need a close friendship in order to be attracted to girls.
/r/seduction17/06/24 02:53 AM
12

I am always in that invisible box. How can I figure out what issues I need to work on in order to move out of that box?
/r/seduction17/06/24 02:23 AM
1

which is where? I live an active social life and yet I almost never meet single girls.
/r/seduction12/06/24 03:19 AM
1

yes lol. I was and am always turned down.
/r/seduction12/06/24 03:18 AM
2

I do all that but still cant even meet a girl who is single. and when I occasionally do, they arent attracted to me. I live a super social life, go on road trips, do a ton of backpacking, have a bad ass adventurous lifestyle and do cool shit every weekend, yet I am still invisible.
/r/seduction12/06/24 12:38 AM
1

then what?
/r/seduction12/06/24 12:31 AM
1

If you' were social and outgoing, had various friends/groups, did various activities, then school should be easier. - I wish this was the case. I did all that and I couldnt ever get a date. Now at 26, my life is far better. I still do the same things as I did when I was in college (mostly), but I have money and time now.
/r/seduction12/06/24 12:30 AM
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exactly... I would be surprised if there is 1 girl on this planet who finds me attractive and wants to date me.
/r/seduction04/06/24 07:43 PM
4

just a scarcity mindset. A lot of guys desperately want to win back an ex because they simply think they can’t do better, or even find anyone at all. - this is true for me. I cant find girls.
/r/seduction04/06/24 07:43 PM
2

I can list those things, but that still doesnt make girl interested in me
/r/seduction04/06/24 01:48 PM
3

so thats why every girl rejects me, thanks
/r/seduction04/06/24 01:46 PM
3

It can be unfathomable how far you can get with a woman with just regular conversation. - Really? In my experience you only make a friend.
/r/seduction02/06/24 04:09 PM
1

How do you find a good coach?
/r/seduction02/06/24 04:07 PM
1

ok, I know who I am, how can I not get rejected by girls who are similar to me and are more likely to want to date me?
/r/seduction02/06/24 04:05 PM
2

sadly, those rough rejections are all that I have gotten, even though I know they arent good for me, it still hurts too much to even want to continue.
/r/seduction02/06/24 04:04 PM
2

I took that and it suggested meeting women through church. Which I try to do but no one is single. What else can a guy try?
/r/seduction27/05/24 09:55 PM
2

ok I have that, but I still wish I had someone to share my life with. How can you get rid of that desire?
/r/seduction27/05/24 09:51 PM
1

yes. I do what I can to meet people often and I do social things most nights of the week.
/r/seduction24/05/24 08:04 PM
1

then why is it that when I have given up in the past, I still didnt get any success?
/r/seduction24/05/24 02:35 PM
1

Only dedicate time and effort to those who value you. - I guess I will dedicate time and effort to no one. How do you get people to value you? My own family doesnt even reach out to me first.
/r/seduction17/05/24 04:10 PM
1

Im not in utah, but northern montana. I have work here and moving would also keep me in smaller cities (largest being 200k max). What do you do when you will always live in smaller population areas? Just hope and pray theres a single girl around my age?
/r/seduction17/05/24 04:09 PM
1

nope. I got a good haircut and lifted more instead of running all the time. I didnt get many looks before but now I get none.
/r/seduction16/05/24 12:46 AM
1

then where do I meet single girls in their mid 20s?
/r/seduction12/05/24 09:48 PM
1

Never met anyone who was single. I havent met a girl who was single in over a year
/r/seduction12/05/24 09:47 PM
2

how am I lying? All my friends are married or in long term relationships. They hang out with other married people. I do social things almost every night. Rock climbing, volleyball, church groups, game nights, and so on....
/r/seduction12/05/24 09:13 PM
1

Never. None of my friends know any single girls anymore, everyone is married. Even in college I was never introduced to anyone.
/r/seduction12/05/24 09:08 PM
12

Im not lying. Having a good social life has not helped me with girls in the slightest since I am 26 and have never been on a date.
/r/seduction11/05/24 09:41 PM
14

when will it start to be paid back? I am super social and I have never been able to get a date or attract girls.
/r/seduction11/05/24 08:34 PM
1

I have learned that I am simply not the type of guys who girls want to date.
/r/seduction10/05/24 06:39 PM
0

Talk like you do with your friends/ sisters(If you have them ) - thats how you become friendzoned Be chased - girls dont and wont chase guys
/r/seduction05/05/24 03:56 PM
1

Hell yeah I would.
/r/seduction26/04/24 12:02 AM
1

That’s when you’ll realise how many friends you have. - Yep have been through a few and my friends have supported me and stood by my side the whole way. You seem to have a skewed view of friendships.
/r/seduction26/04/24 12:02 AM
1

No, you don't. You just are acquainted with many people. This is also part of the problem. - Why do you say that? I do things most nights of the week with different groups of people who I consider close friends. When the old female friends get in touch saying you're ignoring them, tell them what you want - I dont want anything with most of my girl friends, they are just friends. and if I do end up liking a friend, I ask her out and leave it at that when she turns me down. When you meet new women…
/r/seduction25/04/24 04:01 AM
2

yes, I am told that they arent attracted to me or that they only see me as a friend
/r/seduction25/04/24 03:03 AM
3

cool, I am super social, have lots of friends and am always talking to girls. Yet I am still unable to get a date.
/r/seduction25/04/24 02:38 AM
1

Whats SR?
/r/seduction20/04/24 08:06 PM
1

dont know what to tell you then since that was my experience. Every single girl I have been interested in has turned me down and I have asked out hundreds of girls.
/r/seduction20/04/24 07:19 PM
2

I did that all through college and was still rejected by every girl I was interested in or asked out.
/r/seduction20/04/24 04:53 PM
2

even fix the dent on my car? Lol, but you can do that and still be single and invisible to girls.
/r/seduction20/04/24 03:24 PM
1

Im 26. The single guys are 19 and 27. The single girl is 18.
/r/seduction19/04/24 11:21 PM
1

yeah, I know that all too well.
/r/seduction19/04/24 08:16 PM
3

Some women say that they have to be friends with somebody first before they start to catch feelings - Thats me, but as a guy. I have never found random women who I dont know attractive. I dont think its a confidence issue since I can walk up to anyone and make a friendship. It just takes me months or years of a very deep friendship for me to find girls attractive, and there are many girl friends who I dont find attractive, but have been friends with them for my whole life. Its all so random.
/r/seduction19/04/24 02:51 PM
1

Its not an assumption since they always have and they tell me about the guys they like (who arent me)
/r/seduction19/04/24 02:49 PM
5

I talk with women almost every day since my friends are about 50/50 girls and guys. Nearly all of my guy friends and girl friends are in a relationship or married. I only know 2 single guys and 1 single girl.
/r/seduction19/04/24 02:48 PM
4

pretty healthy. I have several friend groups and I do things with them several times a week as well as put myself into positions to meet new people as often as I can.
/r/seduction19/04/24 03:31 AM
3

I try to do that, but its always hard to just toss a way a multi year friendship where you really love the person and enjoy their friendship and have a lot of history together.
/r/seduction19/04/24 12:31 AM
4

If A woman does not signal interest in the first 48h, move ahead. - OK. I have never had a girl signal interest to me, so I will keep this in mind. Always kiss her - I have never been in a position to even think about kissing a girl. Always confess your feelings - Yep, I agree, I always have as soon as I started to like her. Always move away after rejection. - This is hard because we are good friends and its hard to give up a long term friendship.
/r/seduction19/04/24 12:22 AM
1

what if your only ever attracted to friends?
/r/seduction18/04/24 11:44 PM
1

Sometimes it's personality issue—sometimes it's a raw attractiveness issue. - as a guy who cant get a date, how do I find out which issue it is?
/r/seduction18/04/24 11:43 PM
1

find someone who is attracted to you and with whom you have a deep connection - How do you find a girl who is attracted to you? I have always fallen for girl friends who arent attracted to me, but dont know how to change that.
/r/seduction18/04/24 11:43 PM
6

If you are pretending to be friends with a woman and you want more than friendship, you are being deceitful. - What if you just happen to fall for a friend naturally?
/r/seduction18/04/24 11:42 PM
13

As someone with no social media, this all seems complex and baffling to me as well as a lot of extra work when you can just live life.
/r/seduction05/04/24 09:24 PM
1

I dont go to bars, but I try to go to a music festival each summer back in my home town. Its a good excuse to take time off work and visit family.
/r/seduction31/03/24 09:38 PM
1

where are young people? Busy street is mostly homeless, or older couples. The closest college is 2 hours away, and the local mall is dead.
/r/seduction31/03/24 09:37 PM
2

I tried partner dancing in college and I was paired with a chair because the guys outnumbered the girls.
/r/seduction31/03/24 09:36 PM
1

in my experience, 65ish.
/r/seduction31/03/24 09:35 PM
11

Not enough people → find a different location in the city / change time when you go out - What city? that would require going back to college and a huge career change. I cant afford that. No time → make this a priority - How? I work long days and am away from home for 12 to 13 hours a day. So I only really have weekends. Scared to approach → work on your approach anxiety - no issues here actually.
/r/seduction22/03/24 03:43 PM
5

yep, I did that every few months. I gave up apps after 5 years of no matches, even with premium.
/r/seduction21/03/24 03:57 AM
8

how is gym plus tinder supposed to work. I am in shape but I never got any matches.
/r/seduction21/03/24 01:21 AM
1

what can I do, how can I change?
/r/seduction21/03/24 12:15 AM
1

yep never ask out friends. It sucks when you only ever like friends so you have to live a life of pain because you dont ask them out.
/r/seduction20/03/24 02:16 AM
1

then what if you have only ever liked friends?
/r/seduction20/03/24 02:11 AM
3

and if you dont have any other options? I have only ever really been interested in girls who are close friends and I often go months or years between crushes, so when I do occasionally like a girl, I dont really have other options.
/r/seduction20/03/24 02:10 AM
1

if you’re a man that presents himself as desirable it will happen to you. - It hasnt yet for me. What do I need to change?
/r/seduction20/03/24 01:33 AM
1

how can you promise that? I have been doing that for years and I still havent gone on any dates
/r/seduction16/03/24 06:09 PM
1

Why the fuck are you flirting with someone you're friends with lol. - Because I started to like her? How else do you go from friend to relationship?
/r/seduction12/03/24 01:35 AM
6

I dont agree that men and women cant be friends. I have quite a few girl friends and have no feelings towards them. Also it's insane to me that dudes will go out of their way to to try and do things to get out of the "friendzone" with one women when they can just as easily improve themselves and find 10 other women that will actually give them the time of day. - For me its because I have started to like said friend and have become attracted to her. I dont know where to find 10 other women who wi…
/r/seduction12/03/24 01:34 AM
1

Thanks for the reply. Sorry for the long response, was busy all weekend. Yeah demisexual sort of fits me. I agree with what you say and will work to incorporate it into my dating life when I start to get dates.
/r/seduction12/03/24 01:31 AM
2

you're talking to someone and have no feelings of attraction until you are deep in a friendzone - yes. I need a close connection with a girl to be attracted to her. I dont find random girls attractive, I never have. The term is demisexual. never asked someone out before? - I have asked out hundreds of girls. Some who were close friends, many who were random girls I met. All rejected me. Speed dating - theres none in my area. I tried in college but there were too many guys so I was turned away. Y…
/r/seduction09/03/24 02:49 PM
1

ok that makes sense. problem is that I dont know who is attractive until I am so deep in the friendzone that I cant get out. I have also never been on a date. I know those signs, but have never gotten them myself
/r/seduction09/03/24 01:17 AM
1

how do you even get yourself into a spot where you can be intimate with a girl? Its not like you can start being intimate with one of your friends?
/r/seduction07/03/24 01:18 AM
1

who do you even flirt with? How do you flirt with a girl who you arent interested in who you have just met? do you just have to pretend to be interested in a girl? And what do you do when no girl is ever receptive?
/r/seduction07/03/24 01:16 AM
2

It might be something simple as getting more (appropriately) physical. Sitting closer, holding eye contact, light touching, arm around her, getting lost at moments in what you find so attractive about her. - How do you get yourself into those positions where you can even do those things?
/r/seduction07/03/24 01:15 AM
1

Ill send you what i look like
/r/seduction05/03/24 11:51 PM
1

so for me I have no idea how I "rate" some people tell me Im attractive, but girls tell me that they arent attracted to me when I ask them out. So maybe Im a 5, maybe Im a 3. I am definitely under 20% body fat. Im 6'2" 175 pounds. I am trying to gain weight. Not sure how to looksmax my face and what I need to change about it. I have had professional photos taken. I was on quite a few apps I paid for the premium from time to time I swiped as long as the apps gave me people to swipe on I never got…
/r/seduction05/03/24 11:16 PM
1

so if we cant do that, do we just accept a life alone or settling for someone we are not attracted to?
/r/seduction05/03/24 10:47 PM
1

I used tinder, hinge, bumble, and upward
/r/seduction05/03/24 06:04 AM
1

yeah me to. 26 year old guy here. One one hand - All my friends tell me that I am attractive, random redditors who I send my pics to tell me that I am decent looking. But on the other hand - I have never had a like or match on a dating app. I have never been on a date, every girl has rejected me, mostly because they tell me that they arent attracted to me.
/r/seduction05/03/24 12:52 AM
5

Models is super basic and not really useful if your a normal guy. Is pretty much is "live an attractive life" "be yourself" and "dont be needy"
/r/seduction03/03/24 11:15 PM
1

I guess I have never had a woman like me because every girl does every one of those bullet points.
/r/seduction02/03/24 02:59 PM
1

how do you find girls to message? The suggested page occasionally shows the instagram models, but who is messaging them, especially when they live on the other side of the world?
/r/seduction29/02/24 01:09 AM
0

well, yeah, thats obvious. But that doesnt tell me how to become attractive?
/r/seduction21/02/24 12:59 AM
1

so for me, I would be so bored. I am skiing 3 days a week right now, and come spring I will be spending most of my free time fishing or camping. Its so nice to be able to drive 10 min and be in the woods. I work out on the clock at the office so I dont need to go to a gym. Plus I work in the woods so I wouldnt even be able to find a job in a city. I can see the ideal of being able to approach more in a city, but I wouldnt even be attracted to or want to date those girls since we have nothing in …
/r/seduction19/02/24 03:58 PM
1

what did you do to be happy in a city? I cant think of anything I would enjoy in a big city. I visited chicago to see a friend for thanksgiving and I was soooo bored.
/r/seduction19/02/24 03:40 PM
1

I work in an industry which leads me to smaller towns. I also hate cities. I lived in one of 250k for a couple years after college and was miserable. Should I move to a city and hate my life? I dont see how being miserable and unhappy will improve my dating live. I am not overweight or underweight. I am 6'2" and 175 pounds, and work out daily.
/r/seduction19/02/24 03:14 PM
2

smaller, probably 30k to 40k people. Maybe 100k within my 100 mile radius. But I never had success when I went to a large college either.
/r/seduction18/02/24 11:29 PM
3

How do you have an abundance mindset when there is no abundance. Its not often I actually meet any single girls.
/r/seduction18/02/24 11:28 PM
1

how do you make the apps work for you? People would tell me my profile was good, but I still never even got likes. Some guys are just too ugly to ever have success on dating apps.
/r/seduction18/02/24 02:42 PM
4

what if there are no women who like me?
/r/seduction18/02/24 02:41 PM
1

I will DM a pic or 2 to you. I am 6'2" and 175 pounds.
/r/seduction09/02/24 02:57 PM
1

Do you really need to lift those amounts to have success? I have been lifting for a year now and am nowhere near those numbers. I do have the 12% body fat or less though. Just a skinny guy who isnt strong in lifting (but strong in other areas, climbing, running swimming etc). How upscale is needed?
/r/seduction09/02/24 05:45 AM
1

Every guy here can relate to getting a girl's number - I actually cant relate to this. I have never gotten that far.
/r/seduction07/02/24 02:28 AM
1

Well, I mean, I have been trying for years.
/r/seduction03/02/24 11:12 PM
1

Theres like 50k people in my city and surrounding area. Who should I game if I have only ever liked girls who I am friends with? Should I just approach and try to date random girls?
/r/seduction02/02/24 09:28 PM
1

Now be careful, obviously unwanted touch is a no no and you should cease the moment you feel your touch is unwanted All touch is unwanted in my experience. I am fairly familiar with escalation and starting small and working up. But none of my friends are very touchy and they have told me that they dont like it when I nudge them or tap their shoulder. I have never even hugged a girl. Last time I tried, she politely turned me down.
/r/seduction02/02/24 08:59 PM
1

I dont even know where to go to meet lots of single girls.
/r/seduction02/02/24 03:53 PM
1

So I have never been on a date so getting a date is my fumble. But its largely because I dont know how to like girls who I am not friends with. Every time I like a girl she only sees me as a friend. And I dont know how to go from friends to relationship. I also struggle to meet single girls now that I have been out of college for a while. It seems that everyone is married and I missed my chance.
/r/seduction02/02/24 12:54 AM
1

True. Its hard to even meet single women now that I am in my mid 20s. It seems every girl I meet is married or in a serious relationship. I also struggle to even like girls who I am not friends with so its hard for me to start flirting with girls who i am already close friends with.
/r/seduction02/02/24 12:52 AM
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Cool. I will save this for use if I ever get a date.
/r/seduction01/02/24 08:35 PM
5

What would you suggest for guys who are super social but still struggle?
/r/seduction01/02/24 05:15 PM
1

It says to meet women through church. Which is right so your test is accurate. Good job. However, this assumes that there are girls at church who are single. I am 26, they are all married at this point.
/r/seduction30/01/24 04:29 PM
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I'm 6'2", face is probably a 5 or 6.
/r/seduction29/01/24 04:09 AM
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Im just saying that its easy for me to be friends with girls, but I have never been able to be anything more and I dont know what to say to get them to be interested in me beyond a friendship.
/r/seduction29/01/24 01:13 AM
1

boxing is straight forward compared with talking to women. I can memorize moved and strategy with boxing. But when I try to memorize lines or strategies for talking to girls (beyond just a friendship), all bets go out the window because unlike most skills, theres billions of women, each who require a different skillset and strategy to communicate with.
/r/seduction29/01/24 12:59 AM
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Where is the difficulty in understanding this? I dont know how to be playful. I havent played since I was a little kid.
/r/seduction28/01/24 11:02 PM
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yeah? I have always been in fairly good shape. Last year I decided to take it to the next level and nothing changed in regards to improving my social or dating life.
/r/seduction28/01/24 07:17 PM
1

in that case, what sort of girls should I be attracted to? I am not going to change who I am because I love who I am.
/r/seduction28/01/24 06:18 PM
1

Yep, I have done that. But those girls simply arent interested in me. I am into outdoorsy christian girls. I am outdoorsy and christian myself.
/r/seduction28/01/24 05:40 PM
1

makes sense. I just wish I could figure out what I need to change
/r/seduction28/01/24 05:34 PM
0

yeah I know. I have never had a girl like me, If i had, I would have known.
/r/seduction28/01/24 05:31 PM
2

Id need to see what you look like and what the woman you want looks Ill send some DMs
/r/seduction28/01/24 05:30 PM
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nope.
/r/seduction28/01/24 04:59 PM
1

and what if that doesnt work?
/r/seduction28/01/24 04:58 PM
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what if theres not much of a difference between the men they date and me? But here I am still invisible.
/r/seduction28/01/24 04:58 PM
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become that - I wish that would work. By all intents and purposes I am the type of guy the girls I want, want. But those girls tell me that they arent interested in me like that.
/r/seduction28/01/24 04:57 PM
1

those are the best odd I have ever had.
/r/seduction28/01/24 04:56 PM
1

all you have to do is have fun and playful conversations with women - as if its that easy
/r/seduction28/01/24 04:55 PM
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