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Sure, I agree, but that’s not exactly what is being discussed here. Jp seems to be of the opinion that what women want from a man is necessarily good and aim worthy which is what I am disagreeing with.
/r/MensRights15/08/23 02:31 PM
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Ya, that makes perfect sense, but that also doesn’t mean that women’s standards are necessarily reasonable or aim worthy
/r/MensRights15/08/23 02:27 PM
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So let me get this straight we have to man the fuck up and focus on our own development but it turns out that women also have to man the fuck up and focus on their own development as well? You are very defensive, it’s bizarre.
/r/MensRights15/08/23 01:23 AM
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No, you aren’t at all clear. And also, don’t be so offended. I was asking honestly because your reply is a little incoherent
/r/MensRights15/08/23 01:08 AM
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I’m confused, are you saying we should or should not aspire to meet women’s standards?
/r/MensRights15/08/23 12:43 AM
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Jordan Peterson is great in my many ways but he is human. He isn’t a god like his fan base believe him to be. He is infallible like all people are. And in my opinion his is certainly wrong on this matter. Mindlessly aiming to be whatever it is women or a woman wants and believing that women’s desire is intrinsically aligned with qualities we should value and support is beyond ridiculous.
/r/MensRights14/08/23 02:12 PM
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Everything you said should also apply to women, no?
/r/MensRights14/08/23 02:06 PM
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What do women have to do?
/r/MensRights14/08/23 02:04 PM
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So become whatever women want? If they want us to be murdering psychopaths should we still aim for that? What about what men want out of women? What if we all want perfect 5 foot 8 blonde hair blue eyed 36-24-36 women, should women also become that?
/r/MensRights14/08/23 02:01 PM
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Very well said. Female sexual selection is the driving force behind these matters. It drives competition between men thus incentivizing men to one up the next man even if it amounts to a net negative for men as a whole. The silver lining here is that they are targeting men at the top for exploitation and their standards have become so ludicrous and out of touch with reality that many men are beginning to pay attention to the hierarchy women seek to impose on men and through that are realizing th…
/r/MensRights11/08/23 07:34 PM
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Actually, the most vocal advocates of men not showing emotions have been the women in my life, not men. How does that jive with your claim?
/r/MensRights09/08/23 11:14 PM
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“Disagreeing, another resident, Tracy Nakubulwa, said: "I have seen happy marriages and families separate all due to the issue of paternity testing - and children are becoming victims." Human rights activist Lindsey Kukunda said the fact that wives sometimes secretly have a relationship with another man, to give her husband a child, "is not new". "Our ancestors did it, our grandparents did it, our mothers did it," she said. She points out that when couples have difficulty having children, it is …
/r/MensRights05/08/23 11:19 AM
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Knew it! Only someone who doesn’t have a family to provide for doesn’t understand the desire to pursue more money can sometimes go well beyond wanting to be a good prospect for dating. I never cared about money until I had to put a roof over my family’s head and food at their table.
/r/MensRights09/07/23 09:46 PM
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So my question is, what is the purpose of selecting partners who earn more than you?
/r/MensRights09/07/23 09:11 PM
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I can tell you still live at home with your parents
/r/MensRights09/07/23 09:09 PM
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Nah, you’re here in bad faith. I’ve done this too many times before to know your mind can’t be changed
/r/MensRights09/07/23 01:30 PM
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Not the sharpest tool in the shed
/r/MensRights09/07/23 12:17 PM
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This notion that there is a biological imperative to concern ourselves more with women’s well being and health than men’s does nothing for our cause but harm.Feminist and many women believe they are inherently more valuable than men, the same way some men believe they are inherently more valuable than women, the difference though? Women and feminism at large are controlling much of western culture, thereby ensuring that their thoughts and values become the underlying value system of our societie…
/r/MensRights01/07/23 01:56 PM
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Holy smokes, alot to unpack here. Over and over again you are missing the point. YOU have made the claim for innate gynocentrism, you must prove this claim. You have different standards for evidence for your claim in comparison to the standards you hold for the evidence contrary to your claim. Example : "Also,men in position of power tend to be gynocentric themselves.If youwant an example of this just look at biden's gender policy council.You canalso,look at the lack of offices dedicated to men'…
/r/MensRights30/06/23 08:50 PM
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Beautifully said
/r/MensRights29/06/23 07:42 PM
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With incredible amounts of inbreeding maybe......the generations to come will look like something from The Hills Have Eyes. Firstly, you can repopulate the world with 1 woman and tons of men.....it will take much longer but there won't be nearly as much inbreeding. Secondly, when's the last time we needed to repopulate the world with 1 woman? Every single person who espouses this argument that women are the more valuable gender resorts to "you can repopulate the world with 1 man" and yet the las…
/r/MensRights29/06/23 07:34 PM
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I can tell you don't have children if you are comparing the innate desire to protect your children with the claimed "innate desire to protect women". The problem is you haven't at all made a valid argument proving that gynocentrism is a real phenomenon. You also never answered my question about how men should move forward from this. Also, the comparison you made for parents to children is not extendable. Parents have an obvious reason as to why they would have an inate desire to protect their ch…
/r/MensRights29/06/23 11:55 AM
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This could not be further from the truth. You are dividing the world into two neat categories, psychopaths and non psychopaths, in reality, the world is far more nuanced than that and psychopathic traits take place on a scale, they are not binary. Not everyone who commits or partakes in violent crimes is psychopathic. Do you believe every nazi soldier was psychopathic? We know this cannot be true.
/r/MensRights28/06/23 11:39 PM
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Yes, but they only keep the women alive because you can’t have sex with a dead woman, at least not for very long. They aren’t giving them “preferential treatment” because they have an intrinsic desire to protect and care for them and that’s my point. Feminism has been trying to convince the world of two things at once, one, being that women have always been oppressed and mistreated, and two, that women are inherently more worthy than men. Both of these are completely false.
/r/MensRights28/06/23 10:03 PM
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The evidence is in-front of you but you chose to ignore it. How do you make sense of the wiki link(Yanomami tribe). They kill other tribes, abduct, rape and dominate the women. Out of curiosity, what’s your solution moving forward, for men that is.
/r/MensRights28/06/23 05:47 PM
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Rape is not necessarily perpetrated by pscyhopaths, and rape is widespread during times of war, when society breaks apart and rules don't apply. Ultimately men have a desire to pass on their genes, the same way women do, hence why rape evolved. Neoteny also works the same way for men. Men who are baby faced are less likely to receive harsh punishments. Men and women are competing for advantages in the sexual arena in order to secure the passage of their genes into the next generation. https://ya…
/r/MensRights28/06/23 02:32 PM
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I if it means anything to you I can say that my grandmas father used to beat his wife and children and the courts never did anything about it other than remove him from the house for a small amount of time at best. In one case the judge simply said “stop beating your wife please” There is nothing biologically that makes men prioritize women’s well being over their own. Hence why women are raped. This notion that there is a biological imperative to concern ourselves more with women’s well being a…
/r/MensRights28/06/23 11:04 AM
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https://sites.google.com/a/oakland.edu/domestic-violence68/history# http://www.pacwrc.pitt.edu/Curriculum/310DomesticViolenceIssuesAnIntroductionforChildWelfareProfessionals/Handouts/HO3DomesticViolenceTimeline.pdf
/r/MensRights28/06/23 12:42 AM
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Most men aren’t actually concerned about women’s well being anymore than they are men’s. Most men feign concern because it’s demanded of them. In many countries and not so long ago men were allowed to beat their wives. Why was that? Because men had much more control over the prevailing culture. With the advent of social media women have managed to gain control of the cultural narrative and have leveraged their “weaknesses” to fool the world. Women aren’t any more important than men, they just wa…
/r/MensRights28/06/23 12:37 AM
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Explain how a woman produces a child without a man for me please
/r/MensRights27/06/23 11:39 PM
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Evolutionary speaking, it doesn’t make sense to lose your life to save a woman. You can’t mate if you are dead
/r/MensRights27/06/23 11:38 PM
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"in my opinion this means that men have a bigger impact in how people learn to take responsibilities and be accountable for their actions" Only because women aren't expected to responsible, which is the problem. Women are just as capable of being responsible but culturally we don't expect them to be and we need to change that.
/r/MensRights21/06/23 12:23 AM
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💯
/r/MensRights18/06/23 12:57 PM
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That shouldn’t be a masculine trait, that should be an adult trait that women possess too.
/r/MensRights18/06/23 12:51 PM
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Which ones privilege men?
/r/MensRights18/06/23 11:24 AM
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Would you recommend a man not hit another man back in a fight and instead get help?
/r/MensRights08/06/23 02:22 PM
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3 lol. I hit a nerve. Life must be hard when you struggle with following low level conversations.
/r/MensRights06/06/23 12:57 PM
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Everything looks super when you have the verbal iq of a 7 year old
/r/MensRights06/06/23 12:54 PM
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The same way I can’t enlighten a pigeon I can’t enlighten you
/r/MensRights06/06/23 12:53 PM
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You can’t enlighten stupid
/r/MensRights06/06/23 12:53 PM
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Firstly, learn to read something you never wrote in your comment? Is there something wrong with your brain? Show me where you announced your country in your reply to me. Secondly, this is irrelevant. We are talking about the countries that mandate men to go to war. Not your country. Let me explain how this conversation went in point form since you appear to have trouble with working memory. I said if men are obliged to go to war then women should be obliged to bear children. You said women are o…
/r/MensRights06/06/23 12:51 PM
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Do you know what legally obliged means you half wit?
/r/MensRights06/06/23 12:44 PM
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My version of traditional gender roles is men work and women stay at home. Men provide, women are provided for, men protect, women are protected. All of these points are exactly what OP said as well for which denisc9918 replied with "WTF are you on about?If you don't want to deal with a non-traditional woman then don't, why give a fk what they say about you." So I don't think it's fair to accuse me of strawman here since what I'm assuming is implied. I replied to denisc9918 kindly offering him t…
/r/MensRights05/06/23 06:02 PM
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Shit, I remember you now! Ah yes, the small pp comment was me calling out a dude claiming that men should be forced to pay for children they never agreed to having while also insisting that women have the right to abortion. Why did you omit that part? Secondly, why did you feel the need to attack me based on a very innocuous non-confrontational comment? I don't remember what we argued about but I do remember you being manipulative, sarcastic and not exactly all that concerned with men's rights. …
/r/MensRights05/06/23 05:59 PM
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Oh okay, my bad and I understand. I was just trying to understand the origin of your statement
/r/MensRights05/06/23 02:45 PM
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Oh, you mean because of a disability? Because that’s obviously very different
/r/MensRights05/06/23 02:40 PM
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Okay, but eventually she will be able to go back to work, no?
/r/MensRights05/06/23 02:11 PM
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I’m not sure where you live but to sustain a household you require a minimum of two average salaries in most countries now. Are you advocating for men to work and for women to stay at home? Because economically that isn’t feasible anymore, at least not where I’m from.
/r/MensRights05/06/23 02:09 PM
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That’s exactly the problem
/r/MensRights05/06/23 02:01 PM
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Shit, what reasons do they give for shutting down the groups for men? The double standards are becoming worse and worse
/r/MensRights28/05/23 12:31 PM
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Statistics prove otherwise. All you do is lose. Every comment you left has been a complete flop. Reason being? Because you view the world through a black a white lens “men bad, women good, men perpetrators, women victims”. My best guess is you hate men because of the men you dated. A lower level behaviour typical to women and men who lack the intellectual capacity or the desire to think critically. https://medicalxpress.com/news/2006-07-women-perpetrators-abuse-victims.amp https://www.researchga…
/r/MensRights25/05/23 10:17 AM
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Forced impregnation? That could help.
/r/MensRights25/05/23 10:07 AM
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The fact that you think men can’t experience rape and boys can’t experience molestation is insane. You are either a woman or the biggest simp known to mankind. Prime meat to be used and abused by women is what you are
/r/MensRights25/05/23 10:06 AM
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Bro, do you realize that there are 7 billion people on this planet? Do you realize that the average couple produces less than 2 children on average? Do you agree that if you can force men to fight to the death for your country then you should be able to forced impregnating for your country?
/r/MensRights25/05/23 10:01 AM
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Yes I do you half witted troll
/r/MensRights25/05/23 09:58 AM
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Right! Men die, women thrive!
/r/MensRights25/05/23 01:17 AM
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That’s okay. It’s time for them to grow up
/r/MensRights25/05/23 01:03 AM
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Nah, years ago it was acceptable to hit your wife. These aren’t old tropes or patriarchy
/r/MensRights25/05/23 12:34 AM
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If she’s acting unreasonable she doesn’t deserve to be defended
/r/MensRights25/05/23 12:32 AM
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Tradition, culture and the fact that men make better soldiers on average? Regardless, they should be forced to fight just as all these men are. Why is it the burden of half the population to defend while the other half is sheltered and protected?
/r/MensRights24/05/23 11:04 PM
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We aren’t living in medieval times. Women don’t need to replenish the population, we have immigration for that seeing as we aren’t having enough babies as is. And if that were the case, they should be legally obligated to bear children the same way men are legally obligated to fight and die.
/r/MensRights24/05/23 11:01 PM
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It’s just to demonstrate the difference in how men and women are treated. 18 year old boy sent to die, 18 year old women in another country living life peacefully
/r/MensRights24/05/23 10:58 PM
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They always were like this. They have not changed much. Only thing that changed is their sense of entitlements and societal norms that allow and encourage them to express themselves freely. Spot on
/r/MensRights23/05/23 01:52 PM
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To me it’s obvious, you are so biased that you an constructing your own version of events, unknowingly ignoring certain points in OP’s recount and hyper focusing on others. He very clearly states that she was in his face, that he tolerated a degree of disrespect and aggression before fighting back, that she was sexist and racist and yet somehow you ignored all those points and instead insist on exploring what OP must have done to evoke such a hostile reaction, and how OP mentions that he wouldn’…
/r/MensRights23/05/23 12:36 AM
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I can assure you, being verbally attacked initiates a flight or fight response….. he clearly says she got in his face and then proceeds to mention how if she were a man this would have resulted in a physical altercation, meaning, she’s being physically aggressive ……
/r/MensRights23/05/23 12:29 AM
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He escalated the situation? Not the women being aggressive, making sexist and racist remarks? Not the women threatening him with physical violence? But instead the guy who called someone out on being racist? “So after a while of tolerating her shit I argued back” yup, sounds like this guy right here escalated the situation and is to blame. My god, the degree to which you hate men is astounding
/r/MensRights23/05/23 12:19 AM
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If it’s such a bad word then stop using it
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:50 PM
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Imagine someone saying white people owned a word. They get to throw around the word however and whenever they please, but if a black person throws around said word, then they must be punished! Because it is a white persons word!
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:46 PM
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Says the most racist man in this sun who insists that only people of a certain colour can say a word regardless of context…
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:43 PM
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You see the world through black and white, racially that is. Need I say more?
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:41 PM
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You hate white people so much that you hate mixed race because they have white in them.
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:39 PM
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I’m not repeating myself anymore. If you have a learning disability go get help. I’m not your teacher
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:39 PM
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No, I’m saying it’s sorta unlikely to have a deep hatred for black people when you yourself are half black….
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:37 PM
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The only bigotry you care about or notice is when you are on the revisiting end. That much is obvious
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:36 PM
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The only bigotry you care about or notice is when you are on the revisiting end. That much is obvious
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:36 PM
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You just said “that is what women do”…. My god you are stupid
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:35 PM
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Sorta hard to be racist when my moms African American…..
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:34 PM
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You are racist
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:31 PM
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“Intent doesn’t mean shit” okay there half wit. I’m still flabbergasted how you insist on paying no concern to the racist woman because “that’s what women do”, which is sexist by the way. But you have such an intense concern with OP saying the same thing the drunk woman said. Clearly you are only concerned when racism is directed at black people
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:30 PM
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It is a word that you or nobody owns. Ironically, you just used it and yet you insist on everyone using the N word as a substitute for the real word regardless of context, such as an educational setting. You really are a racist and you really don’t know it
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:24 PM
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Says me, yes, the person who is more concerned with the person who was initially targeted using racial and sexist slurs and initially tried to call the person out for being racist and sexist, and when said person refused to acknowledge that what they were saying was bigoted he decided that maybe he could get her to see his point if he used the same sentence structure as she did but with her race as the intended target
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:22 PM
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Do you don’t know what the word intention means. Kk got it. Smart guy I’m talking to here
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:18 PM
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Says the person who insists on insulting the man who was on the receiving end of racism while making no mention of the other persons racism directed at OP? Hmmmmmm
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:17 PM
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Have you ever heard of the word intention? Do you know what intention means? Should I describe it for you? For example, if I repeat the words of a racist woman to recount what she had told me, does that mean I’m racist? What if I read a book and there is a racist utterances in there? Am I racist if I read it out loud?
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:15 PM
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I ain’t saying she wasn’t racist, but you certainly aren’t concerned that she is. Just say it, you hate white people
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:11 PM
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“No he said it cause he was a mad fool” ….. The sheer fact that you can’t understand why he responded the way he did is proof you are racist yourself. Zero concern about the non-white woman’s racism but an utmost concern to label OP as racist despite clear evidence he was trying to get her to acknowledge that using white as a insult is the same as using black as an insult. You’re too stupid to have a conversation with.
/r/MensRights22/05/23 02:09 PM
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You proved my point. He wasn’t being racist back, he said the same thing back to her to evoke critical thought so she can realize she was being racist…..since she didn’t think she was being racist…..half wit
/r/MensRights22/05/23 01:58 PM
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Of course not. Reading is a cognitively demanding task for those with below average intelligence. How does it feel knowing you’re a net negative on everyone’s life?
/r/MensRights22/05/23 01:52 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists?amp
/r/MensRights22/05/23 01:48 PM
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Victim blaming, is that you?
/r/MensRights22/05/23 01:47 PM
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They aren’t your friends. You deserve better than them.
/r/MensRights22/05/23 01:42 PM
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Painfully stupid analogy. Don’t let a man inside of you if he doesn’t have a condom or you are not on birthcontrol
/r/MensRights17/05/23 02:11 PM
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I mean, thats the problem though isn’t it. If you need to be or act tough to not be victimized then the game is rigged for ever increasing power and use of violence to demonstrate power. Also, if being “powerful” is what attracts women, then again, the game is rigged to select not those with good values and prosocial traits but those who are willing to cause maximal harm
/r/MensRights16/05/23 10:31 AM
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I’m glad someone else shares the same opinion as I have. I feel like I’m watching people spin around in circles trying to explain bad behaviour in men and somehow missing the elephant in the room, that is, women’s adoration of big bad tough men
/r/MensRights15/05/23 09:45 PM
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If administrative data deficiencies plague understanding the magnitude of the rape related crimes of Indian women and girls then doesn’t that mean you have no proof that it is what you say it is?
/r/MensRights13/05/23 10:04 PM
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For women too!
/r/MensRights10/05/23 09:58 PM
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Can you explain this hierarchy for me?
/r/MensRights10/05/23 09:57 PM
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If you are a woman and can’t afford to have a kid, don’t let a man cum in your vagina.
/r/MensRights10/05/23 09:56 PM
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I’m glad it worked out. It’s fucked up that people can anonymously post defamatory content about someone and to make matters worse is the intention behind their actions is sexist
/r/MensRights09/05/23 01:28 AM
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I have to disagree with the carefree approach. It’s healthy and mature to care about being doxed on a website dedicated to ripping men apart. Unless of course you feel like she won’t reveal the identity if you are upfront with her and that approaching in a carefree manner will more likely result in her identifying the culprit. If she refuses to identify the person, remind her that this person identified you on a public platform
/r/MensRights09/05/23 01:11 AM
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Understandable, but have you ever questioned why you don’t feel the need or desire to save men? A man who is having the shit kicked out of him is experiencing the same shit kicking a woman is. The end result will likely be the same for both people. To me the solution is simple. Don’t stick your neck out for a woman. Technically speaking, you just saved yourself from possibly being hurt or even worse, murdered. I don’t think we are hardwired to protect women, especially women who aren’t mothering…
/r/MensRights08/05/23 01:10 AM
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What relevance does chivalry have here?
/r/MensRights07/05/23 10:32 PM
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https://time.com/8265/internet-trolls-are-actually-sadists-study-finds/?amp=true
/r/MensRights07/05/23 10:22 PM
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I find it interesting that a lot of the comments coming from trolls like you insist that we can’t assume all women are so and so based of a few….well isn’t that what feminism and mainstream culture has been using to discriminate against all men for the past few decades? It’s as if all of a sudden you feminist twerps realize that women and society in general can be awful towards men in very predictable and culturally approved ways and rather than acknowledging that there is something wrong with o…
/r/MensRights07/05/23 10:19 PM
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I think the key takeaway for me is that there needs to be much more discussion on the dark side of female sexual selection which encourages bad and unhealthy behaviours in men. Up to this point women have managed to convince society that it is kind and good men that they want which couldn’t be further from the truth. In a way it makes sense that this deceit is occurring as it appears as if female sexual selection opts to find good fathers and providers but to ultimately cheat and produce offspri…
/r/MensRights07/05/23 06:36 PM
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Thought experiment, do you think sexual selection for people with predispositions for violence is better than sexual selection for people without violent predispositions? I see this as being analogous to what we are seeing in the USA regarding gun laws. Everyone wants guns to protect themselves from bad people with guns which is only helping put guns in the hands of dangerous and violent people resulting in more danger than would have been if there were less access to guns. At some point we have…
/r/MensRights07/05/23 03:51 PM
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Your point isn't exactly relevant to the conversation of female attraction but nonetheless I'll discuss this point you made. "No real discussion can happen unless there are people willing to be violent to be heard." We are attempting to reduce violence, not increase it. If as a society you need increasing levels of violence to be heard there's a problem. If you don't believe that violence can be virtually non-existent in a society then maybe this will help you see this matter differently. Curren…
/r/MensRights07/05/23 12:10 PM
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I would like to know this as well!
/r/MensRights07/05/23 11:43 AM
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You do realize they are recounting their personal experiences right?
/r/MensRights07/05/23 11:33 AM
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Question, why are you angry that their personal experiences have been that at older ages it’s primarily women who shame them for showing emotions? If their experiences don’t include men shaming them then would you like them to lie about it?
/r/MensRights07/05/23 11:24 AM
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OP asked if men had shamed them emotionally, your comment drags women into this with a heavy dose of sarcasm. Am I wrong?
/r/MensRights07/05/23 10:56 AM
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https://www.altpress.com/internet_trolls_study/
/r/MensRights07/05/23 10:48 AM
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Question, how do you demonstrate your capacity for violence? Women’s attraction to dark triad traits https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913012245 Competition for sex increases the likelihood of experiencing violence in men https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5922783/ Women’s attraction to more violent men for short term mating https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-019-0262-5 Interesting reads Also, I realize this is a JP talking point. A point of his I’ve lon…
/r/MensRights07/05/23 10:01 AM
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Not really. The way I see it, she's just unhappy that men aren't aspiring to be big bad brutes she wants them to be
/r/MensRights06/05/23 10:25 PM
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Yup. To me it sounds like she's into men who are borderline to full spectrum antisocial and shes angry that men aren't aspiring to be "bad boys" anymore
/r/MensRights06/05/23 10:14 PM
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100%. They objectify us, plain and simple. Rather than seeing us as individuals they see us an objects meant to fulfill their desires. In her case, she wants men to be "manly" (her version of manly) and judging by her comment on "not being afraid to punch someone in the face" (by someone she means another man, never a woman) what she actually means is she likes big dominant, prone to violence, brutes who are intimidating to other men.
/r/MensRights06/05/23 10:09 PM
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'Why do we feel the need to vilify a man wearing s***-kicker boots, driving a pick-up truck who's not afraid to punch someone in the face, but if they were a woman, they would be the epitome of cool?' Why is punching someone in the face ever a good thing? And lets cut the bullshit, she doesn't mean anyone, she means any man, cause we all know she really just wants a man who can dominate other men (even with violence) and would never lay hands on a woman. Given the choice she would likely cast ju…
/r/MensRights06/05/23 10:03 PM
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While I don't believe in the patriarchy the way it is told today I do believe that prior to the advent of feminism men had the majority of influence over the culture leading to inequalities between the sexes. But, and a huge BUT, men did not possess the quality of life many people seem to believe. Most men worked dirty, dangerous jobs for long hours (well before the creation of workers rights), the vast majority of men did not attend higher education (less than 6%). The work life landscape in no…
/r/MensRights06/05/23 02:03 PM
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You mean, men caused paternity fraud? You mean, men caused affirmative action to make employment and acceptance into universities easier for women? You mean, men made it so that you are guilty by nothing more than an accusation? You mean mean, men created 1 way domestic abuse and rape laws?
/r/MensRights06/05/23 12:46 PM
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So when men behave badly “Patriarchy” but when women behave badly in predictable ways “not feminism”? Ahhh I see
/r/MensRights06/05/23 12:40 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists?amp
/r/MensRights05/05/23 09:52 PM
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💯
/r/MensRights05/05/23 01:10 AM
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You somehow missed the point. The point isn’t to celebrate all men for what previous men have accomplished, similarly, the point isn’t to punish all men for the wrongs of previous men. You do recognize that the men and boys today have very little if anything to do with the past, right? If it makes you uncomfortable celebrating all men for all the achievements of previous men then it should also make you uncomfortable chastising all men for the misdeeds of previous men. The current narrative is a…
/r/MensRights04/05/23 09:53 PM
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Ya, but all you focus on is the bad in society, no? Your quick to say “men are the cause of all problems of society” but I would bet big money I’d never catch you saying “men are the cause of all good in society” Side note, did you know that women are on average not willing to date men with less social status than them?
/r/MensRights04/05/23 09:39 PM
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But they’re also the source of most good in society
/r/MensRights04/05/23 09:37 PM
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Oh okay. So in that case could we also agree that because we don’t know what women would have created or contributed we also don’t know how much harm they could have created as well? Do you realize that the men alive today had no part in history? Right?
/r/MensRights04/05/23 09:34 PM
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Jee, I don’t know….could it be something to do with the context of he conversation at hand??
/r/MensRights04/05/23 09:26 PM
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No bullshit, you are brainwashed. If men have all the power and always have and therefore are to blame for all societies problems, then they’re also responsible for everything we have today…..you know, like a functional society with immense technological improvements that have led to increased life expectancy and well-being for billions of people.
/r/MensRights04/05/23 09:24 PM
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What’s incredibly unhinged is you blaming all of societies woes on one gender…. If it makes you feel uncomfortable then change And please, feel free to explain how your lack knowledge of history (you said Jews were an oppressed group) is the invalidating point that renders my analogy inaccurate https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/1938-nazi-law-forced-jews-register-their-wealthmaking-it-easier-steal-180968894/ Notice how they blame the Jewish people for all of Germany’s woes and failings? Soun…
/r/MensRights04/05/23 08:30 PM
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No shit Sherlock, where did I say they couldn’t?
/r/MensRights04/05/23 07:00 PM
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Point proven https://www.uni-trier.de/fileadmin/fb4/prof/SOZ/APO/WindolfMS577June10.pdf Educate yourself and remember, villanizing and entire demographics is NEVER okay
/r/MensRights04/05/23 05:42 PM
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Ya, men are responsible to most of their problems and societies problems, that’s your opinion, am I wrong about that?
/r/MensRights04/05/23 04:54 PM
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Could it also mean that women have standards and expectations for relationships that are unrealistic (yes, there is indeed such thing as having unreasonable standards)? Here’s one unrealistic expectation, expecting men you date to make more money than you while simultaneously complaining that men as a group make more money than you
/r/MensRights04/05/23 04:00 PM
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💯
/r/MensRights04/05/23 01:18 PM
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You talk about what being a man is while simultaneously not having enough guts to address when you’re being discriminated against….what a joke
/r/MensRights04/05/23 01:12 PM
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Critical thought isn’t your thing. You: “Men are fighters…Try your best” Also you: “stop complaining and accept that you have been defeated” So much wrong in here beyond the blatant hypocrisy of telling men that they are fighters while simultaneously telling them not to fight. How about this, if you aspire to be “a man”, at least the way you think of what “men” ought to be, maybe try being more intelligent. There’s nothing “manly” about being a emotionally repressed warrior defeatist who fails t…
/r/MensRights04/05/23 11:50 AM
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Definitely a woman. Look at you objectifying men with no regard for their well being. Completely lacking in empathy for a group. You view men like the nazis viewed Jewish people “I mean the sound of men complaining is naturally off-putting so isn't that normal. Man up and deal with your problems.” …..I don’t know who needs to tell you this but you are the problem
/r/MensRights04/05/23 11:34 AM
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Men are intellectually no less able than women. Regardless, you are a troll. https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists?amp
/r/MensRights04/05/23 11:32 AM
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Sorta like how the nazis blamed the Jews for all of societies failings? Hmmmmmm looks like we have a nazi of some sort over here
/r/MensRights04/05/23 11:23 AM
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Ya, but imo, there seems to be a rise in toxic feminism, at least in mainstream feminism. I can’t scroll through tiktok without watching some video of a woman denigrating all men in some way that if a man had said the same things about women many would be outraged and properly so. Scrolling through my news feed and it’s not long before I come across an article about how unfair our society is for women and how men are to blame while completely ignoring the ways in which men suffer. Men can sense …
/r/MensRights03/05/23 03:49 PM
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“No, I’m not asking what was he wearing or talking about him in general I am just saying like UK isn’t super feminist and there is a laddish culture maybe provoking people to view men negatively. Obviously nobody agrees with murder” If laddish culture can justify why men are viewed negatively then so can a culture which encourages women to behave badly, no?
/r/MensRights03/05/23 03:39 PM
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Interesting. It’s a cognitive process that I’ve noticed almost exclusively in women. It’s some odd coping mechanism for avoiding accountability and admitting to fallibility. It makes sense they’d especially behave this way in regards to men as our culture encourages them to view themselves above men, and naturally, if you believe you are inherently better than someone that causes you to view them as less and as result diminishes your empathy for them. For example, nazis thought they were inheren…
/r/MensRights03/05/23 03:35 PM
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Yes, badly behaving women. Notice the qualifier, “badly behaving”, that implies “not all women”. I never mentioned what I thought of you
/r/MensRights03/05/23 03:28 PM
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Slowly but surely men will begin to realize that many women and mainstream feminist culture do in fact hate them simply for being men and ultimately reduce us to nothing more than objects meant to be used, abused and discarded as ever they see fit. Once enough men realize this things will begin to change
/r/MensRights03/05/23 03:25 PM
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Honestly, I’m starting to think that there are inherent differences between men and women cognitively and emotionally that allow women to perform the mental gymnastics needed to proudly and loudly proclaim such hypocritical, discriminatory and objectifying beliefs whilst simultaneously decrying anything and everything that they perceive to be “discriminatory” (perceive is the key word here).
/r/MensRights03/05/23 03:21 PM
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Show me where I said you were a badly behaving woman please
/r/MensRights03/05/23 03:17 PM
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You are hopeless
/r/MensRights03/05/23 11:35 AM
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So ya, it’s obvious you have an anti male lean. You’re not here in good faith. Nothing could change your worldview, nothing could make you understand men’s complaints and you are the exact reason why men need this movement, because people like you will never concern yourself with mens issues, and yes, men do have issues. https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists?amp Bye troll
/r/MensRights03/05/23 10:58 AM
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I like how you deflected there and rather than admit to the misandry is TwoX tried to downplay it because “women don’t shoot up communities”
/r/MensRights03/05/23 10:48 AM
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Counters what you previously just said. A shame that a grown woman doesn’t know how to use google and in the face of contradicting evidence still attempts to maintain her position.
/r/MensRights03/05/23 10:45 AM
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You appear to not understand my position. If there is a big enough war, men are drafted women are not. Young men have to register and if they don’t there are consequences. If world war 3 broke out men would be drafted and women would not. https://post3legion.org/Vietnam_Statistics.pdf. How can you be so obtuse as to argue that a gender based draft is not an issue. 17 000 young men were drafted to their deaths. Countless others were injured and many were traumatized. The same legislation that cau…
/r/MensRights03/05/23 10:42 AM
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No worries, I’ll read over you comment history to see if my assumptions are correct.
/r/MensRights03/05/23 02:33 AM
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Do you live under a rock or know how to use google? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_combat#:~:text=In%202014%2C%20the%20IDF%20said,duties%20in%20relatively%20quiet%20areas.
/r/MensRights03/05/23 02:30 AM
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News flash, women are allowed on the front lines you half wit
/r/MensRights03/05/23 02:28 AM
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It doesn’t have relevance? My god. If a war broke out men would be drafted, only men and that’s not an issue. You say this so confidently despite war being waged in Ukraine and the talks of war between the east and the west being everywhere. No amount of convincing will ever work for you. Your mind is made up
/r/MensRights03/05/23 02:27 AM
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Because you made an account to troll a men’s right sub and because your belief is the world is inherently misogynistic. Because you don’t concern yourself with mens issues. Because you don’t think men have issues. I can go on
/r/MensRights03/05/23 02:25 AM
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Eligible for combat does not equal drafted….
/r/MensRights03/05/23 02:23 AM
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No, you think it’s irrelevant because it happened in 60 years ago
/r/MensRights03/05/23 02:22 AM
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Look, ultimately, you hate men. You have no empathy for them. You see the world as male vs female. It’s obvious
/r/MensRights03/05/23 02:21 AM
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You aren’t classy so I will keep it as I have
/r/MensRights03/05/23 02:20 AM
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Ya exactly, they don’t care that men are drafted and they’re not. They want the option to choose to fight and the option to flee to safety. Only one gender is awarded that privilege
/r/MensRights03/05/23 02:20 AM
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https://www.archives.gov/research/military/vietnam-war/casualty-statistics#:~:text=April%2029%2C%202008.-,The%20Vietnam%20Conflict%20Extract%20Data%20File%20of%20the%20Defense%20Casualty,and%20Records%20Administration%20in%202008.
/r/MensRights03/05/23 02:18 AM
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What are you confused by. I’m here to help a less than able person in need
/r/MensRights03/05/23 02:17 AM
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No
/r/MensRights03/05/23 02:16 AM
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You said women aren’t fighting to keep the draft gender based at all, that is, because they aren’t fighting for it at all.
/r/MensRights03/05/23 02:15 AM
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Just like the Ukraine!!! Just like the 52000 men who died during the Vietnamese war. Nothing, irrelevant. In other words, men can’t complain until it’s too late and their being drafted into a war and dying by the thousands whilst women are ushered to safety. By the way, your right, I got the terms messed up, but guess what, men are still required to register and women aren’t so my point stands the same. Does it not? Interesting fact, many of the young men who died in the Vietnamese war would sti…
/r/MensRights03/05/23 02:14 AM
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You: “Misogyny is baked into the fabric of society!!!!! Men hate us!!! Men oppress us!!!” Also you: “How it it women’s fault that men want to protect us from war and would rather send other men to die? #notourfaultnotourproblem”
/r/MensRights03/05/23 01:55 AM
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That’s right, you aren’t fighting for the inequality of conscription at all! You don’t care about it because it doesn’t affect you. Pro tip, that’s called cognitive bias.
/r/MensRights03/05/23 01:51 AM
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Okay. Deep sigh. When you register for conscription you are saying that I agree to be drafted in times of war…..
/r/MensRights03/05/23 01:50 AM
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Last time I checked I couldn’t find a strong demand amongst women and mainstream feminism for women being drafted
/r/MensRights03/05/23 01:49 AM
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Oh so we hate you so much we protect you from the realities of war!!!!!!! Conscription means you are capable of being drafted by law….half wit
/r/MensRights03/05/23 01:42 AM
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Oh okay, so the USA? The draft only applies to men.
/r/MensRights03/05/23 01:31 AM
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If there’s so much misogyny and we hate women as a society so much then maybe you can answer this question for me, why are women allowed to flee the Ukraine but not men? If we hate women so much why not use them as cannon fodder instead of men?
/r/MensRights03/05/23 01:26 AM
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Does misogyny appear mainstream to you right now? She’s a man hater guys. Spotted one
/r/MensRights03/05/23 01:23 AM
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We’ll be prepared for what comes next when misogyny become mainstream. Because like you said, badly behaving women will provoke society at large into woman hating, right?
/r/MensRights03/05/23 12:51 AM
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Let’s be honest, you are here in bad faith and hate men. Nothing you say here will be of any value
/r/MensRights30/04/23 11:40 AM
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Okay, so treat differences in representation of fields as proof of discrimination and the remedy to this is to partially abandon a meritocratic approach, i.e. reduce the standards for the "underepresented" group? Is it possible that men and women have different interests leading to ratios of men and women that deviate from the population ratio within particular fields?
/r/MensRights28/04/23 12:30 PM
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she doesn't deserve, or, she develops the id Question, how do you implement affirmative action for both men and women?
/r/MensRights28/04/23 12:04 PM
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Okay, what’s your point?
/r/MensRights24/04/23 01:04 AM
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Yes! Do you agree that there should be paper and financial abortions for men?
/r/MensRights20/04/23 12:26 PM
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Sure, but then send women too if they are that desperate, no? Either gender makes equally good cannon fodder! But yeah, your thoughts make sense. In life and death situations human rights sorta fall to the way side naturally. It just so happens that society tends to be collectively in agreement that sacrificing men is okay but not women.
/r/MensRights19/04/23 10:12 PM
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What personal information did I post?
/r/MensRights29/03/23 10:34 PM
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Ya exactly, weights are determined by humans. Give high weight to left leaning sources and low weight to everything else
/r/MensRights28/03/23 12:09 PM
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When we get to the point where we can openly discuss antisocial behaviours most often perpetrated by women I’ll happily discuss antisocial behaviours most often perpetrated by men. Things gotta be equal
/r/MensRights28/03/23 12:05 PM
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Not true. Chatgpt can be intentionally biased by the programmers https://www.thestar.com/amp/business/2023/03/01/what-is-woke-ai-and-why-is-elon-musk-reportedly-building-a-chatbot-to-counter-it.html
/r/MensRights28/03/23 11:18 AM
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That’s not exactly true, there are weights involved in this which are determined by the programmers. So yes, chatgpt can be biased by its creators https://www.thestar.com/amp/business/2023/03/01/what-is-woke-ai-and-why-is-elon-musk-reportedly-building-a-chatbot-to-counter-it.html
/r/MensRights28/03/23 11:15 AM
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Some men are the issue, not men, the same way some women murder. You do realize that the vast majority of men are non-violent lol, right? You’re using your statistics to discriminate against a group. That’s it that’s all. And ya, exactly, men die at 3 times the rate as women, but makeup 84% of violent offenders
/r/MensRights27/03/23 09:25 PM
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Did you know that statistically African American men are significantly more likely to murder than Caucasian Americans? They’re also significantly more likely to murder Caucasian Americans than the other way around. What should we do this this statistic? The majority of victims of African American perpetrators are African Americans, but should we only focus on Caucasian Americans the same way we focus on women who are murdered by men? I hope you are starting to see the analogy I’m making. African…
/r/MensRights27/03/23 07:57 PM
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Why does it matter who kills you? Why does that make you any less of a victim worth talking about?
/r/MensRights27/03/23 07:56 PM
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Bullshit all around. You hate men, that’s why you’re here. Stop using anecdotal evidence as proof of your broad sweeping claims
/r/MensRights27/03/23 07:51 PM
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Lmao, you think every domestic abuse case that counts as a statistic for women looks like that? No. You’re the one being disingenuous here. Hence why you were kicked out of /evolution. You cherry pick. It’s on a talk show because not enough men are speaking up so it seems rarer than what it is
/r/MensRights27/03/23 07:49 PM
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https://youtu.be/KeGVpMPAwuw this bloke doesn’t matter either. He must be lying
/r/MensRights27/03/23 07:24 PM
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Got it, abuse against men doesn’t matter because not as severe. Makes sense. Also, men are 3 times more likely to be murdered. Doesn’t matter though because men are murdering them. Also, men who are murdered by their wives or girlfriends don’t matter because more women are murdered by their husbands and boyfriends. Got it, all makes sense. Lots of empathy here
/r/MensRights27/03/23 07:20 PM
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https://slate.com/human-interest/2014/04/male-rape-in-america-a-new-study-reveals-that-men-are-sexually-assaulted-almost-as-often-as-women.html
/r/MensRights27/03/23 07:11 PM
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https://aliesq.medium.com/extensive-research-women-initiate-domestic-violence-more-than-men-men-under-report-it-3bbaa4fbec9d
/r/MensRights27/03/23 07:09 PM
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Point proven. Same source you looked at. Look at you being unable to believe stats now when they cast your gender less favourably than you had imagined. And yet, you still claim to be unbiased….
/r/MensRights27/03/23 06:46 PM
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Yes yes, we know how you feel about men. Congratulations for joining the ranks of the bigoted and hateful “Among large population samples, 57.9% of IPV reported was bi-directional, 42% unidirectional; 13.8% of the unidirectional violence was male to female (MFPV), 28.3% was female to male (FMPV)” Looks like women are the majority here
/r/MensRights27/03/23 12:00 PM
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This is a group that’s sole purpose is to smear men. Imagine a group with the sole purpose being to smear African Americans, or any other group of people
/r/MensRights20/03/23 12:46 AM
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You’re triggered. How did you even end up here? Regardless, having a website that allows anonymous people to post defamatory content about people that is meant to impact their personal relationships and goes beyond a few spoken words to a few close friends is very much different than plain old gossip
/r/MensRights19/03/23 10:20 PM
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Somebody is butt hurt
/r/MensRights19/03/23 10:15 PM
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Oh the irony. Every single one of feminists complaint is a complaint in how women are fairing compared to men…pot calling the kettle black?
/r/MensRights19/03/23 01:44 PM
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I understand where you are coming from but I don’t think these matters are as biological as they’ve made us believe. Im slowly becoming wholly convinced that we these roles, especially those of men, have been culturally imposed and originate entirely on what women want men to be and not some inherent value system in men.
/r/MensRights19/03/23 12:25 PM
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Tell them that the fear they might feel is not an indication of how much fear they should feel. Feelings do not trump facts
/r/MensRights15/03/23 02:23 PM
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Ya, sorry, I meant "away from feminism". I edited it now. But ya, imo, the end goal of feminism is to divert as many resources into women and female specific arenas. They are trying to monopolize all forms of resources such as: money, concern, empathy, protection, etc. Financially speaking, healthcare is a good example. They wail and complain about women's healthcare being underfunded and yet when you look at the statistics it's obvious that not only does women's healthcare receive more funding,…
/r/MensRights15/03/23 01:26 PM
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You do realize that an excess of resources is being driven into female specific areas, so yes, diverting resources away from feminism isn’t the negative thing you feel it sounds like
/r/MensRights15/03/23 12:57 PM
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I have been wondering exactly this for a long time. Very refreshing to hear that there is some thought given to a biological explanation pertaining to female entitlement
/r/MensRights15/03/23 12:55 PM
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Nothing in there was the least bit comical
/r/MensRights15/03/23 12:30 AM
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1."Either way I think you're a shallow thinker with little real world experience.......Your constant "You can't be a coder seeing as you're a half wit." type comments are direct personal attacks as opposed to my "That's idiotic and indicative of the rest of this comment" or "Bullshit" which are attacks/statements about your comments. " Pot calling the kettle black? ​ "You seem to accept the first thing that pops into yourheadwithout question, you got a downvote = must be me opening anew account …
/r/MensRights13/03/23 01:16 PM
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The proof is in the pudding that feminism is an ideology intending on discriminating against men, that is, because anyone who has a valid argument to make doesn’t resort to intimidating its opponents into silence, which is and has always been the main tool used by feminism
/r/MensRights13/03/23 01:07 AM
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Now that the conversation moves away from insults to actual debate you go mia?
/r/MensRights12/03/23 04:26 PM
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Tell me which parts you think they call toxic
/r/MensRights12/03/23 02:36 PM
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You are correct, but for the sake of this matter we need to argue it through societies lens, and society does not distinguish between masculinity and traditional male standards I think if we weren’t such assholes with each other we’d probably realize we share similar opinions
/r/MensRights12/03/23 02:28 PM
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Yes, because I’m not arguing your point, I’m arguing the point you missed, hence why my FIRST comment to you was “you missed the point”
/r/MensRights12/03/23 02:25 PM
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BS I’ve defended my point and you stopped engaging with it. Also, everything else you just said is not true
/r/MensRights12/03/23 02:23 PM
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Oh, a fellow coder eh = fellow coder? Smh you are simple. Picking at nothing because you have nothing. Senility is on its way for you At this point I should just stop. I’m engaging in an argument with a geriatric patient
/r/MensRights12/03/23 02:18 PM
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No, society is trying to allow women the freedom of being whatever they want whilst demanding traditional male standards remain. Look harder. Ask and I will provide you with proof
/r/MensRights12/03/23 02:12 PM
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Immaterial. I really do hope you can see that. Let me help you out, nothing you just said addresses what I said. For example; If you can give up your seat but don’t then you are not a real man. Binary point stands
/r/MensRights12/03/23 02:11 PM
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You’re mad I noticed your ridiculous attempt to upvote your comments with a second account. You’re mad you’ve been downvoted a lot lately and I pointed that out. You’re mad I recognized your age based on your comments and ridiculous attempt to upvote yourself. You’re mad you can’t defend your position and you’ve been caught with your pants down
/r/MensRights12/03/23 02:04 PM
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Ah yes, inference is not your thing. I’m shocked you code seeing as you lack critical thinking and logical reasoning
/r/MensRights12/03/23 01:59 PM
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You can't be a coder seeing as you're a half wit. You are a real man if you standup for a woman on a bus, i.e, you are not a real man if you don't. It's clearly a binary statement, the fact that you are a coder and fail to see that reveals alot about your intellectual capabilities. Masculinity is a sliding scale, society tries to make it binary
/r/MensRights12/03/23 01:58 PM
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Fellow coder?
/r/MensRights12/03/23 01:50 PM
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You must be an old man to not understand how I know you created a second account for upvoting and downvoting. Nobody reads through this shit hole of a comment history me and you engaged in and upvotes and downvotes the last two comments.......
/r/MensRights12/03/23 01:38 PM
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It's either you are a real man, or you are not. There is nothing in between. Being a real man = good, being not a real man = bad. Therefore it essentially becomes the baseline standard to be a real man and isn't just something to aspire for, it becomes something you MUST succeed at and failure to do so amounts to a complete failure. For example, imagine if there was no such thing as being of average wealth, it was either you are wealthy or you are poor and failing to be wealthy meant you must be…
/r/MensRights12/03/23 01:35 PM
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Why aren’t we inspiring women with “be a real woman” to behave in the same way you are encouraging men? Why does being a “real man” need to be the insult to keep men in line? Why do we need to attach a quality that is obviously based on how attractive women will find them? What is a real man to you anyways?
/r/MensRights12/03/23 12:37 PM
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Bro made a second account just to upvote your last comment and downvote my last comment lmao. I struck a nerve because as of recently every one of your comments is being downvoted Just so you know, the point here of this thread is that a crippled man is being applauded for “being a real man” for giving up his seat to someone who is a woman. The term “real man” is a manipulative tactic used to shame and reward men into behaving in ways that benefit women at men’s cost and is most often a tactic d…
/r/MensRights12/03/23 12:16 PM
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I struck a nerve clearly When every comment you make in a sub is downvoted and you continue to make comments in that sub which you are aware will also be downvoted it’s safe to assume you are a troll
/r/MensRights12/03/23 02:02 AM
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Considering everything you say here ends up with a net positive of downvotes I think it’s safe to say you aren’t here in good faith and likely aren’t interested in having your mind changed. And to add evidence of that is how sarcastic you have been throughout our conversation
/r/MensRights12/03/23 12:52 AM
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You do realize you can tell someone they are wrong without telling them why they are wrong right? For example, you can claim that the sky is purple and I could inform you that it isn’t without ever telling you why you are wrong about the sky being purple.
/r/MensRights12/03/23 12:14 AM
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You’re losing your mind bud, I didn’t provide an explanation
/r/MensRights12/03/23 12:07 AM
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No you don’t
/r/MensRights11/03/23 11:49 PM
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This needs to be knowledge for all men and women out there. Whenever anyone has any doubt about the objectives of feminism they need to only remember this to remind themselves that the foundation of feminism is misandry
/r/MensRights11/03/23 11:28 PM
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You’re not going to argue it any further because you’re failing to make sense and feel foolish that you can’t address my point, society and culture applauds female discrimination against men but uses male discrimination against women as proof that MRAs are awful human beings and that the movement has bad intentions Either you don’t know what inference is or you are intentionally avoiding admitting that your initial retort was poorly thought out and impulsive
/r/MensRights11/03/23 11:04 PM
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Are you that obtuse. Are you not aware of the fact that mainstream media and society at large supports feminism and condemns MRA? Are you going to keep dodging my very valid point, why does society at large use different standards for feminism and MRA?
/r/MensRights11/03/23 11:01 PM
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“Doesn’t deter people away from feminism” bro, do you actually think I was referencing the people of this sub? Everyone here is deterred from feminism, so yes, my point stands, and regardless, you still haven’t answered my question once I cleared that up
/r/MensRights11/03/23 10:58 PM
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You are missing the point
/r/MensRights11/03/23 10:56 PM
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Something is wrong with her for accepting the seat
/r/MensRights11/03/23 10:55 PM
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💯
/r/MensRights11/03/23 10:55 PM
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This is amazing progress
/r/MensRights11/03/23 10:48 PM
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Proving what point? I asked a question that you did not answer. I never mentioned my stance on this. I did not ask why the men and women of this sub not care when feminist support outrageously unfair opinions, I asked why society at large is indifferent to feminist discriminatory attitudes but uses any incident of men having unfair standards to attack the MRA movement. For god’s sake, go visit any feminist sub, or read any feminist article and you’ll find it littered with covert and overt instan…
/r/MensRights11/03/23 10:46 PM
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You don’t think much, do you ?
/r/MensRights11/03/23 10:33 PM
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Sure, so then why is it when women/feminist espouse equally unfair opinions that doesn’t deter anyone away from feminism?
/r/MensRights11/03/23 10:31 PM
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So you support beating men but not women? Does that mean knocking a man unconscious is not the same as knocking a woman unconscious? Or breaking a man’s jaw is different than breaking a woman’s jaw?
/r/MensRights11/03/23 10:28 PM
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That’s why we are having this conversation…you aren’t the smartest person here that’s for sure
/r/MensRights11/03/23 01:09 PM
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Equivalently, if you don’t want to be a murder victim then stop murdering people….that is your logic
/r/MensRights11/03/23 01:08 PM
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Does that mean that you think it’s okay for your son to have been lied to and denied his biological father, for the biological father to be denied the opportunity to be in his sons life and for the woman who causes this mess to go unpunished?
/r/MensRights11/03/23 01:05 PM
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It BS. If I went and committed fraud in any other way whilst having a newborn, the legal system and courts would not hesitate to throw me away or punish me because it’s not in the best interest of my newborn
/r/MensRights11/03/23 01:03 PM
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💯
/r/MensRights09/03/23 01:09 AM
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💯
/r/MensRights09/03/23 01:09 AM
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When have men ever had control over whether they will have a child or not?
/r/MensRights06/03/23 08:50 PM
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I’m right there with you man. We live in a time where our primary concern is not discriminating and here society is, collectively discriminating against men. We must live in the most hypocritical time in human history
/r/MensRights02/03/23 11:48 PM
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Says the most dishonest troll in this sub?
/r/MensRights26/02/23 11:20 PM
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https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists?amp
/r/MensRights25/02/23 01:07 AM
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Hopeless at you defending your point? Called a spade a spade and now you don’t know how to defend your point. Say no more, because nobody cares to hear it
/r/MensRights23/02/23 12:13 PM
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Exactly? So you’re arguing that because it is pro men and anti women, his wife won’t receive fair treatment in this matter. Exactly my point You haven’t read the post but you intentionally selected comments you thought were imbalanced? How dishonest of a person are you really. You’re here in bad faith
/r/MensRights23/02/23 12:09 PM
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No, I’m not going to try. If you want, go ahead and explain what you are trying to get at in your own words. If you refuse, we’ll it’s pretty obvious why
/r/MensRights23/02/23 11:59 AM
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“Good thing you came to the place where you get balanced opinions on women.” In other words, nobody here is examining OP’s wife perspective and therefore failing to understand what are her reasons for behaving in such an awful way
/r/MensRights23/02/23 11:44 AM
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So you’re arguing that there is a good reason for OP’s wife to be treating him like this? Also, you’re arguing that other subs are impartial to gender? I think they proved otherwise over at AITA, yo wouldn’t notice that though (confirmation bias)
/r/MensRights23/02/23 11:36 AM
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Not at all, to the contrary, you’re the one arguing that all of your discomforts need to be addressed by those around you. I’m arguing that if your demands are unreasonable, well then they’re unreasonable, and so don’t expect the world to change for you and your particularities. Have a good one
/r/MensRights21/02/23 02:14 AM
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Sounds entitled and demanding to expect everyone to make a perfect environment, to your liking that is. My guess is you’re low in agreeableness and high in neuroticism. Something to think about. It’s fine to advocate for yourself, it’s a different story when you demand everyone around you change so that you can feel comfortable. Who wins if you want no eye contact and someone who’s very extroverted wants lots of eye contact during conversation and does so unknowingly? Either way, go around and m…
/r/MensRights21/02/23 02:06 AM
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I do think it’s ridiculous and the point I’m trying to make is just because you view something as hostile/unwanted doesn’t mean you are right and doesn’t mean you can demand that it come to and end. The world doesn’t revolve around you and your wants and particularities. If someone makes normal eye contact with you and you don’t like that then that is on you, not on them. You cant go around life writing the rules around your particular needs. If you don’t want people looking at you then maybe yo…
/r/MensRights21/02/23 01:40 AM
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I don’t like when people make eye contact with me that last more than 4 seconds. It makes me uncomfortable. It could easily be a signal that they are trying to dominate me. I think there should be repercussions for it because it makes me uncomfortable
/r/MensRights21/02/23 12:05 AM
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You seem to be conflating sexual touching with normal human contact. I actually almost never initiate touch, but I know the difference between a friendly pat on the back and SA
/r/MensRights20/02/23 09:31 PM
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I want you to take a step back, rethink what is being discussed in the article, think about what your main concern is and how you approached the very serious matter of having your life ripped apart because you touched someone’s shoulder, because that is what happened and that’s what is being discussed The only thing you have to offer in this conversation is “never ever touch someone unless you receive verbal consent, and that includes patting someone on the back” You are using the horrible examp…
/r/MensRights20/02/23 08:36 PM
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You ever have someone pat you on the back? You want them to be punished for that? You do realize that not all touch is sexual right?
/r/MensRights20/02/23 08:18 PM
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No, your demand of never being touched in any way shape or form unless being invited is simply put, a joke. Humans touch, it’s normal. Rather than trying to change the world to meet your strange demands maybe you should just remove yourself from contact with people. If we continue marching down this joke of a path, we’ll have people like you banning eye contact because it makes them uncomfortable
/r/MensRights20/02/23 05:43 PM
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Classic manipulative tactics trying to downplay the harm caused to the victims. They’d rather watch a 100 innocent men burn then let 1 guilty man go.
/r/MensRights20/02/23 02:13 AM
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I have children, no
/r/MensRights19/02/23 10:46 PM
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I agree, I find it very concerning how few men realize that they are oppresed
/r/MensRights19/02/23 10:45 PM
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This is amazing. It's a wolf in sheeps clothing. Almost seems deliberate to some extent
/r/MensRights15/02/23 01:24 AM
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Do you think the post meToo is how it should be?
/r/MensRights14/02/23 07:46 PM
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💯x10
/r/MensRights14/02/23 05:25 PM
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I’m sure they’d scream that men aren’t treating women like “people” and as a result of our “internalized misogyny” that women are losing opportunities and relationships at work. The sad part is, based on how blatantly they engage in hypocrisy and how readily our mainstream western culture eats it up, I’d estimate that rather than society taking a step back and asking if they’ve been unfair towards men which resulted in these consequences they’d still find a way to convince the public that’s it’s…
/r/MensRights13/02/23 03:27 PM
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💯
/r/MensRights12/02/23 10:29 PM
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Nah, the problem is society and culture, not women necessarily. We need to change the culture . Boycotting relationships won’t help much unless everyone is on board which will never happen
/r/MensRights12/02/23 10:25 PM
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Sure, I agree with what you’re saying, nonetheless, we need to voice our opinions on how unfair these matters are. If all we do is focus on navigating “their” rules and never bother trying to draw attention to these double standards then nothing will change and you will be forced to “navigate” more and more as the world becomes less and less fair for men This is a place where men develop the courage and strength to fight out these matters in real life and make actual change, so focusing on the p…
/r/MensRights12/02/23 10:17 PM
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Nah, people touch sometimes. Shaking hands? A friendly pat on the back?
/r/MensRights12/02/23 10:13 PM
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Ya, and this is what we need to change
/r/MensRights12/02/23 10:12 PM
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How does this advice work for men in relationships?
/r/MensRights12/02/23 10:11 PM
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Flirting is wrong now?
/r/MensRights12/02/23 10:03 PM
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💯 not sure why everyone is victim blaming the man here
/r/MensRights12/02/23 10:02 PM
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Why is flirting at work wrong? I met my wife at work.
/r/MensRights12/02/23 10:01 PM
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💯. You hit the nail on the head
/r/MensRights12/02/23 10:00 PM
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Nah, I’m gonna have to disagree with this. Rather than discussing how blatantly unfair this is you are chosen to focus on OP’s coworkers ignorance whether it was deliberate or not. Think of being akin to blaming the consequences that an African American man would endure for showing interest in a white woman in the 1950s on the African American man and not on the discriminatory culture that enforces those consequences
/r/MensRights12/02/23 09:57 PM
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This type of change will not occur unless there is some acknowledgment in our culture that men are people and not walking bank account, and women aren’t entitled to a man’s money.
/r/MensRights25/01/23 11:35 PM
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This shows that some women, maybe more than men, but also including a substantial amount of men, have different preferences and points of views than then people they live with.
/r/MensRights12/01/23 12:19 AM
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Are you not arguing for the same points the person in the article is making?
/r/MensRights11/01/23 02:30 PM
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Can you help me understand how gender is relevant here instead. Maybe men are less clean, maybe not, what I fail to understand is why you insist on dividing this along gender lines when you can easily remove gender from this equation and capture the problem in totality thereby helping ALL couples who are plagued by the discrepancy in cleanliness.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 12:37 PM
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Ya, exactly, so why does gender get mixed into this? I’m a man, and I’m the cleanest and tidiest person I know. Where do I fit into this?
/r/MensRights11/01/23 02:08 AM
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I’m a man and I’m the neatest of neat freaks. I’ve been cleaner than any woman I’ve lived with. This article is nothing more than another attempt to knock men down a peg and women up one.
/r/MensRights11/01/23 02:06 AM
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💯
/r/MensRights05/01/23 05:48 PM
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Lmao you half witted loser. I tried giving you a civil conversation. When you have no argument left to stand on you resort to name calling
/r/MensRights24/12/22 02:25 AM
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Can’t you control what you wear? This goes both ways
/r/MensRights24/12/22 02:13 AM
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Could it have been? Before you jump to the attack ask yourself if a bunch of young boys wearing pants to show their bulge could be distracting for girls
/r/MensRights24/12/22 02:04 AM
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Why did he accuse you of that?
/r/MensRights24/12/22 01:45 AM
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Which was directly related to her looks. Look, I'm doubtful this played out simply because her looks are very average at best
/r/MensRights24/12/22 01:43 AM
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Ya, she's not distracting. Average people aren't distracting
/r/MensRights24/12/22 01:41 AM
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Who accused you of distracting men?
/r/MensRights24/12/22 01:38 AM
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Of course you are
/r/MensRights24/12/22 01:36 AM
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Her: I'm too attractive, men on the job are distracted Him: You are not attractive enough to distract men You: How dare you comment on her looks Reread that as many time as you need to see how ridiculous it sounds that you are upset with him commenting on her looks when she is the one who plastered herself all over social media talking about her looks. He is allowed to disagree with her statement
/r/MensRights24/12/22 01:34 AM
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She's arrogant, arrogant people need to hear reality
/r/MensRights24/12/22 01:31 AM
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Dead on 💯
/r/MensRights19/12/22 10:07 PM
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The article is implying society doesn't care about women's issues, which is blatantly a lie. She uses the fact that the Ukraine war is discussed more often as proof. The reason the Ukraine war is discussed more often is likely due to the fact that Russia, one of western societies main threats, is invading a neighbouring country, i.e. showing that they have become bolder and more risk on. Anyone with 6 brain cells to rub together realizes that this invasion, if successful, will likely be just the…
/r/MensRights14/12/22 01:18 PM
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No one said it isn't. I also think men being oppressed, that is, men being forced to fight for either Russia or the Ukraine, as very serious. It's the ultimate form of discrimination to send one gender to their death.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 01:09 PM
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Did you read the article? The whole thing is about how she wants people to stop talking about Ukraine an The only thing you are concerned about is women, that's the point.
/r/MensRights14/12/22 01:07 PM
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Justify is to provide reason for something or to prove is right, to reason is to form a judgment based on logic or some rational. I’m going to take a wild guess and say you aren’t good a math. You can’t justify anything if it doesn’t follow lines of logic. You’re conflating opinions, logic and justification. You don’t even understand what you’re arguing at this point. I dare you to justify something without providing a reason and to provide a reason without using logic. Watch how ridiculous it s…
/r/MensRights11/12/22 10:19 PM
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You struggle at following lines of logic clearly. Let me assist. You are justifying a law because it’s in your opinion that it is in the best interest to have said law in place, you are insisting that all opinions are equal in merit, therefore, if all that is needed to justify a law is an opinion, then the ridiculous law of locking up all first borns up for the first year of their life is equally as valid as any other law
/r/MensRights11/12/22 04:14 PM
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In my opinion, when a man says it to a man, often it is meant in such a way, that is, to be responsible. The men saying this often don't have anything to gain from the man "manning up". When a woman says it to a man, often it's to ridicule the man into doing what they want and directly benefit from it. I don’t agree with this saying regardless though.
/r/MensRights11/12/22 02:20 PM
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This fact needs to be spread and heard by all men!
/r/MensRights11/12/22 02:10 PM
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"Your continual discussion of ethnicity betrays a projection of your ethnocentric agenda or you are being intentionally obtuse or both." Humans evolved over various different environments, selecting for different traits and frequency of traits. The same forces you speak that shaped violence in males could have been at work selecting for violence between races and ethinicities. Here is a link you might find interesting https://www.discovermagazine.com/health/violence-genes-and-prejudice. Regardle…
/r/MensRights11/12/22 01:50 PM
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Opinions are what we form before the facts exist. If an opinion has no way of eventually determining it’s worth then it’s useless. AND, if your opinion results in the implementation of policies that directly affect people’s lives THEN NO, not all opinions are equal. For example, you might be of the opinion that all first borns should be locked in a room with minimal human contact because you’re some deranged fool, and sure, it’s an opinion, but it’s complete trash and not worth jack shit.
/r/MensRights11/12/22 01:07 PM
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Ahhh yes, you missed all the points I mentioned! I was expecting that from you. Straight over your head. Does that mean that XX are selecting XY on their ability to be violent? It would only make sense. Regardless, you drew a very crude line, you couldn’t easily be more precise using ethnicity! Hitler made similar statements about Jews being inferior, genetically that is! You really just proved my point.
/r/MensRights10/12/22 07:01 PM
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Stupid platitude. Not all opinions are equal in truth and worth
/r/MensRights10/12/22 06:53 PM
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Wow! Why not use ethnicity as well? There is a significant correlation there. For example, in the United States, African Americans are significantly more likely to commit crime, violent crime as well! Here’s a link I think you might find provocative! https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/pdf/revcoa18.pdf Seeing as your concern is finding the demographics that are most likely to commit crimes it makes no sense to stop at gender! You should be precise in your justified bigotry! Congratulations on making…
/r/MensRights10/12/22 06:18 PM
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Isn’t that what the article mentioned?
/r/MensRights10/12/22 06:12 PM
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We are discussing the merits of laws…are you advocating for people to not have opinions? I get you have no counter argument but this is just getting sad
/r/MensRights10/12/22 06:11 PM
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You should add ethnicities in your search and tell me if you noticed a pattern as well! Or do you only care to draw distinctions among gender lines?
/r/MensRights10/12/22 05:59 PM
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Maybe the “professionals” will change their mind on it over there someday. I’m sure you won’t challenge it if and when they do
/r/MensRights10/12/22 05:44 PM
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No one said it’s okay half wit, they don’t think it should result in a prison sentence
/r/MensRights10/12/22 05:43 PM
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Ah yes, no footing left to stand out so let’s throw caution to the wind and hope that bias hasn’t infected our professionals. Of course you would say that, because you are in favour of the law. Certainly, you are not opinionated on the anti abortion laws passed in some states though? But please, let us leave it to the professionals, they know best! Never question them ….🐑 A failure in all forms. Devoid of critical thought, unchallenged bias leading to bigoted values, failing to empathize with ha…
/r/MensRights10/12/22 04:41 PM
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Says the person trolling? Come on, you can’t possibly believe that you, the person derailing a thread with no intention on debating civilly is acting “grown up” lmao
/r/MensRights10/12/22 04:39 PM
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What possible proof could ever be presented as proof that someone is staring at you, never mind proof that someone is staring at you with the intention of making you uncomfortable?
/r/MensRights10/12/22 04:37 PM
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Pathetic
/r/MensRights10/12/22 04:33 PM
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No it doesn’t, but it points out that laws are slowly but surely be created in a non gender neutral manner
/r/MensRights10/12/22 04:29 PM
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Being wrongfully accused once of doing something that can land you in jail is more than it should ever happen….I can see you’re all for weaponizing the legal system, be careful what you wish for
/r/MensRights10/12/22 04:27 PM
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Congratulations, you just identified an easily observable instance of staring, (no one is refuting that) but you utterly failed to account for all the instances where it isn’t so obvious, such as the example I gave….HENCE, the issue with passing a ridiculous law on staring
/r/MensRights10/12/22 04:24 PM
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What crimes specifically?
/r/MensRights10/12/22 04:17 PM
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Nice try! But nope! Guy likes girl, guy looks at girl, girl notices guy looking at her, girl looks back, guy thinks girl likes him, guy keeps looking, girl doesn’t like him, girl wonders why guy looking at her, girl accuses guy of staring. Wow bet ya didn’t think of that one! Half wit
/r/MensRights10/12/22 01:54 PM
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You’re that simple of a cretin, aren’t you? So let me help you out with this one, how do you know identify if it’s mutual if both staring and mutual eye contact involve mutual eye contact……
/r/MensRights10/12/22 01:48 PM
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Same can be said about women, you proved nothing
/r/MensRights10/12/22 01:33 PM
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💯
/r/MensRights10/12/22 01:32 PM
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I keep waiting to wake up from this nightmare
/r/MensRights10/12/22 01:27 PM
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Sorry, let me rephrase that, mutual, direct and sustained eye contact is how flirting works. Now tell me the difference between that and staring. Also, thanks for advice but I haven’t had any issues yet. Being attractive, in shape and tall seems to bias women into interpreting eye contact positively rather than viewing it as a stare, hence the ridiculousness behind this ban on staring. Also, here’s a little article/study that’s fitting for you https://neurosciencenews.com/drk-triad-trolling-1882…
/r/MensRights10/12/22 12:01 PM
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Why is it men’s job to intervene when a man is making women uncomfortable? We are significantly more likely to be physically assaulted than a woman
/r/MensRights09/12/22 06:52 PM
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💯
/r/MensRights09/12/22 06:49 PM
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I’ve made harmless eye contact with men who have taken it as a stare down…should I be imprisoned? How does this law work between male on male stares?
/r/MensRights09/12/22 06:39 PM
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Intense eye contact is also how flirting works
/r/MensRights09/12/22 06:37 PM
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Can you explain how it is discrimination against both parties that men are required to sign up for the draft to vote? (If you don’t respond I’ll assume it’s because you don’t actually have a valid reason why this is also discriminatory against women and therefore we can conclude that it is in fact, only discriminatory against men.)
/r/MensRights08/12/22 10:08 PM
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Fundamentally, they perceive us as the enemy. It’s socially acceptable tribalism that amounts to discrimination and sexism.
/r/MensRights08/12/22 03:33 PM
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Fundamentally, they perceive us as the enemy. It’s socially acceptable tribalism that amounts to discrimination and sexism.
/r/MensRights08/12/22 03:32 PM
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You know it's obvious that you have a second account you're using to upvote your comments and downvote mine right?
/r/MensRights08/12/22 02:41 PM
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It is hypothetical, of course it never happened.....it's a thought experiment. Also, you didn't answer any of them. (This isn't a hypothesis either....look up the definition)
/r/MensRights08/12/22 02:33 PM
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Hypothetical scenario here, imagine if African Americans were significantly better at fighting than European Americans, enough so that adding European Americans to the military combat roles would increase the risk of defeat, and imagine that African Americans made up a significant enough portion of the population that they could fill all the needed positions in the military. Now imagine the government took these facts into consideration and decided only African Americans could be drafted. Now he…
/r/MensRights08/12/22 02:22 PM
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Sadly, there is such a societal and cultural wide lack of empathy for men that reminding them of that men were forced to fight while women were permitted to flee to safety does little to nothing. Their usual counter-argument (which is not at all a counter-argument) is something to the effect of "mEn sTaRtEd tHe wAr"
/r/MensRights08/12/22 02:19 PM
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Zelensky mandated men between the ages of 18 to 65 to remain within the country for possible conscription. Discriminatory practice that you would surely not defend had it been women rather than men.
/r/MensRights08/12/22 02:15 PM
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I have a solution, draft no one. Hypothetical scenario here, imagine if African Americans were significantly better at fighting than European Americans, enough so that adding European Americans to the military combat roles would increase the risk of defeat, and imagine that African Americans made up a significant enough portion of the population that they could fill all the needed positions in the military. Now imagine the government took these facts into consideration and decided only African A…
/r/MensRights08/12/22 02:11 PM
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https://neurosciencenews.com/drk-triad-trolling-18825/
/r/MensRights07/12/22 02:16 PM
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Guilty of potentially deceiving a man into caring for a child that is not his own….half wit
/r/MensRights07/12/22 02:14 PM
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It’s her duty to inform him that she is unsure of who the father is
/r/MensRights07/12/22 02:13 PM
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Absolutely! I've had similar conversations with women and I've concluded that many women, not necessarily feminist either, have very little empathy for men, to the point where it borders on non-existent, resulting in them being able to impose blantant double standards with no second thought.
/r/MensRights07/12/22 01:04 PM
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Ya, we don’t like collective blame, do you?
/r/MensRights06/12/22 03:44 PM
0

Just know, that there are men like us out there that had we been your friend and witnessed that woman punching you in the head she would have been thrown across the room
/r/MensRights06/12/22 01:47 PM
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnbbrandon/2021/06/28/new-research-suggests-most-social-media-trolls-have-the-dark-triad-personality/amp/
/r/MensRights06/12/22 01:43 PM
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lol did you just reference a commercial as proof…pathetic
/r/MensRights06/12/22 01:41 PM
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It will stop when us men start banding together fighting for our rights. I can tell you one thing for sure, from my experiences at least, most women have very little empathy for men, and a considerable amount of women will pursue objectives that advantage them with no concern whether these objectives are detrimental to men. So if we don't fight for ourselves nobody will.
/r/MensRights06/12/22 01:05 PM
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or a guy that worked with children his whole life, to subject so many children to such trauma is sickening. Looking a body that smashed into the ground from 10 stories is a grotesque sight. Not to mention, he quite possibly could have killed someone had he landed on them.There’s so much we will never know, but anyone who reads his goodbye FB post must admit that it does not read like a remorseful depressed farewell. He wanted his wife (secret wife?) to suffer. He preaches about the dangers of an…
/r/MensRights06/12/22 01:00 PM
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were arguing and he threw the remote on the ground (not touching her) that’s considered DV and if the kids were home and didn’t even see it, it’s child endangerment. He was charged with a misdemeanor which translates to the children being in a situation that wasn’t likely to cause harm or physical injury to them. As far as Disney, (not saying what he did was right) he basically grew up there because his father worked at Disney for like 40 years. He was the Music Director for CA and FL for part o…
/r/MensRights06/12/22 12:52 PM
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Imagine hating someone for being angry and spiteful that you causes them to lose your career you were devoted to because of a false accusation and a broken legal system? What type of silly person could ever be angry in such a scenario
/r/MensRights06/12/22 12:49 PM
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Stop changing or severely editing your comments well after the conversation finished
/r/MensRights27/11/22 09:57 PM
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I’m convinced you’re a covert feminist at this point. Never have I see someone in here so intent on fighting members in here more than feminism.
/r/MensRights27/11/22 09:55 PM
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Exactly Once you see it you can’t unsee it. The reach of feminism is no laughing matter, it is a genuine threat. And they’ve managed to do so by gaining a foothold in higher institutions, specifically, universities, where our future leaders are born.
/r/MensRights27/11/22 09:52 PM
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I’m not. I’m offering constructive criticism to someone who needs therapy. Just doing my best over here
/r/MensRights27/11/22 09:20 PM
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A nerve has been hit. Too bad you couldn’t invest that energy in the right direction. You’re clearly weak and arrogant but you don’t need to be that way. You can change!
/r/MensRights27/11/22 09:10 PM
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I'm achieving not much from the looks of it other than arguing with someone who refuses to fight for men's rights yet engages in name calling and provocation to reasonable arguments. You think I'm an idiot and I think you're likely one of the most useless members on this sub. You sound bitter and defeated
/r/MensRights27/11/22 08:02 PM
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You made no points, do you not see that? "I just refuse to be another blind idiot in the internet "screaming" pre-made sentences. I prefer another way of "fighting" - one that actually unites people, not divide." Which way of fighting is that? You don't seem to understand how a shared belief amongst many people is needed to enact some change. Ironically enough, you seem to the very person you would not engage in conversation with because they are an "idiot". Your go to tactic is to insult, need …
/r/MensRights27/11/22 07:56 PM
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Sure, you're right, reddit is not representative of real life, BUT, what about mainstream media? What about what's being indoctrinated in higher education? What about men's reproductive rights? What about affirmative action? What about men's suicide rates? What about men's shorter life span? What about men's declining representation in colleges? Where do you think action for all of those issues begin? Do you think politicians will start addressing them if there is no incentive to?
/r/MensRights27/11/22 07:34 PM
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This isn't the apocalypse you think it is. No one knows where unrestrained and unchallenged feminism will bring us, but my best guess says it will gradually increase the quality of their lives, gradually decrease the quality of men's lives, but aside from that, society will largely remain intact. In otherwords, this "im outta here when it happens" scenario will never happen. You'll just likely live a harder, less fulfilling life, they'll life an easier more fulfilling life, and you'll be treated…
/r/MensRights27/11/22 07:29 PM
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100%
/r/MensRights27/11/22 07:19 PM
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It's fine if you dont want to fight, but he's right. Nothing will be achieved if men just sit around being defeatists. It's strange you are apart of a men's right subreddit, i.e. you believe that there are issues in our society that need to be addressed regarding men's rights, yet refuse to appreciate the need for standing up for what you believe in, and even further, are attacking someone who's encouraging people to fight for what they believe in. I mean, what is the point of coming here if you…
/r/MensRights27/11/22 07:19 PM
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💯
/r/MensRights26/11/22 06:08 PM
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I think people are finally starting to open their eyes and see who the real privileged ones are in society and what a total scam feminism is. I think feminism might be the biggest lie of the 21st century
/r/MensRights15/11/22 07:09 PM
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💯 There is no reason to not have laws regarding false accusations.
/r/MensRights12/11/22 05:25 PM
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They found overt discrimination and corrected it. Have they found overt discriminatory practices at the school in question? Because if not, wouldn’t they be creating the same discriminatory practices they found in aforementioned University? ​ "So the idea that a university with less than 14% female students, while exam grades for both genders are about equal (after correcting for corruption), isn't in some way discriminating, seems more than plausible*."* Plausible doesn't justify implementing a…
/r/MensRights12/11/22 02:45 PM
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Feminism is much like a parasite at this point. The ubiquitous, unchallenged assumption that discrimination and/or misogyny is the root cause for all domains where women are outperformed or constitute less than the expected 50% of members is the leading justification for many of policies we are seeing. The burden to prove that discrimination is the reason for the variations in representation we are seeing between the sexes should absolutely be required before implementing policies which are disc…
/r/MensRights12/11/22 02:21 PM
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Shouldn’t the burden of proof be placed on those making the claim that discrimination is at fault for the low numbers of female students admitted before actually implementing a policy that is discriminatory if said claim (women are underrepresented due to discrimination) proved to be false?
/r/MensRights12/11/22 02:05 PM
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That’s the point though isn’t it. We know there is no shortage of feminist/women demanding entry in equal amounts to the most prestigious sought after positions/careers, and their vigour for entry is fuelled and justified by the supposed discrimination that is to blame for their unjust under representation in said fields. AND YET, that same passion and determination to enter into these highly sought after positions is no where to be found for these less prestigious, less rewarding professionals …
/r/MensRights10/11/22 12:12 AM
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💯 This soft on violent crimes thing is a fucken joke
/r/MensRights09/11/22 05:37 PM
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You replied to a week old thread first…..so if you don’t want to recommence a 1 week old thread then surely you shouldn’t be the one reopening the conversation….I hope you can understand that?
/r/MensRights05/11/22 10:52 PM
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Yes, believe it or not, people are capable of reading between the lines. I know you think you can say whatever you want, and then claim the complete opposite and expect that everyone must disobey the laws of logic and intuition and believe your contradictory claim, but that is not how the world works. The mental gymnastics in you is strong. Either that or your deliberately lying.
/r/MensRights05/11/22 01:40 PM
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Silence can be interpreted as support, especially in this context. Regardless I know where you stand
/r/MensRights05/11/22 01:13 AM
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Men have been in power because women incentivize men to be in power by rewarding them with their attraction, attention and desire for powerful men…… There’s a reason that the chips fell the way they have throughout most cultures in human history. Women are attracted to powerful, dominant men and do naturally men have evolved to pursue power more aggressively for it is a winning strategy that results in them producing more children.
/r/MensRights05/11/22 01:02 AM
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It's true that women are more likely to die in the bombings (since they target maternity centers, schools etc.) Yes. But there's q difference for me as the bombings of civilians have just started on the 24th. Soldiers on the battlefield were always bombed Your argument is that women are bombed more because the metric you use to determine a casuality of bombing excludes soldiers which are predominantly male.
/r/MensRights01/11/22 05:23 PM
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So you just proved yourself wrong?
/r/MensRights01/11/22 02:26 PM
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💯
/r/MensRights01/11/22 02:25 PM
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Do you think you might be getting attacked because you are trying to silence men from discussing overt discrimination?
/r/MensRights01/11/22 02:24 PM
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No one said it’s all roses for women, what we are saying is it’s significantly better to be granted the option of fleeing then being forced to remain in a war torn area. This is not something anyone should have trouble grasping and yet here you are, talking complete nonsense or running off on tangents.
/r/MensRights01/11/22 02:22 PM
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You are allowed to flee your country and are welcomed into other countries based on your gender. Men are not allowed to leave a war torn area….. how much more deliberately defiant to the facts can someone be. Seriously, think about this, imagine if women were forced to stay and fight while men were welcomed into safety by neighbouring countries. Think about it however long you need.
/r/MensRights01/11/22 02:14 PM
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Off topic with the intention of derailing. You get a F for being an empathy
/r/MensRights01/11/22 02:11 PM
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So please do yourself and all women a favour and ask to be sent to fight the wars instead! That’s the only logical conclusion from all this. Men are privileged to fight and die in war so let us even the playing fields!
/r/MensRights01/11/22 02:09 PM
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Tell her if that’s the case then let’s do women a favour and send them to war instead
/r/MensRights01/11/22 02:07 PM
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You do have the audacity by siding with any choices she makes regardless if they are justified or not.
/r/MensRights31/10/22 03:52 PM
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The fault lies with her in this regard. There’s no reason she has to hide it from him and therefore trying to justify her denying him his parental rights has no ground to stand on
/r/MensRights31/10/22 03:35 PM
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It was shocking for me as well. I knew our mainstream western culture was filled with misandry but this article is beyond reprehensible. It’s very hard to believe that a well established news platform would post an article celebrating sending men to war, to kill or be killed, because they reneged on parenthood. And also, to do so by leveraging an under discussed, extremely discriminatory practice of sending men to war against their wishes. Our current mainstream culture prides itself on being em…
/r/MensRights21/10/22 03:34 PM
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I'm going to call a spade a spade here, this thread appears to be full of men who hate other men who are capable of hooking up. Most of the comments are focused on disparaging OP just for hooking up and show little, if any, empathy for him.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 03:00 PM
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Nice, denegrading someone whos being taking advantaged of. Where are the harsh words for the woman whos potentially trying to cheat him into child support? This is part of the reason why men are discriminated against, many of us aren't even able to empathize with each other.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:59 PM
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Absolutely not. They spent that last decade and more railing and discriminating against men for all the world's woes, so like hell will I ever invest one iota of energy for a country and culture that views me as inherently sinful because of the sex I was born as.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:23 PM
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You were raped
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:11 PM
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So lease the movement would you? Organize a protest, because you’re doing jack shit to boost morale over here.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:56 AM
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You aren’t a man, you are a feminist woman disguising yourself as a man. It’s obvious. Every single one of your points regarding men somehow comes back to a woman’s issue
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:55 AM
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You read an article condoning women sending men into the army for financial gain and failed to see the lack of humanity in that, as well as the double standards that would prevent a similar article with the genders reversed from ever being published……this is why our movement can’t gain traction. We’re better off without you, you aren’t here in good faith, it’s obvious by your comment history
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:48 AM
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Beta behaviour? Really?
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:44 AM
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Did you read the article? Because that’s not the point. Women weren’t allowed to vote, nobody called that misogynistic before the feminist movement began…..do you think before you speak, or write?
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:38 AM
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We are the underdogs in this, don’t kid yourself. So if you want to even the playing field, for every time you call out a misogynistic man, you need to call out X times as many misandrist women
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:30 AM
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We don’t have a voice. We have no support, it’s a reality, and to say otherwise is gaslighting. There’s a reason why we haven’t been able to advance as movement, anytime anything about men’s issues is brought up women, and even men, throw their arms up in outrage and accuse you of being misogynistic. Men having distinct issues is counter to the current narrative, and so, is met with hostility. The only way to change it, is to have more men become aware of the misandristic society we now find our…
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:29 AM
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Do you not know the difference between mainstream news platforms and the opinions on some sub Reddit?
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:21 AM
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The point of this post is the hypocrisy in mainstream media, NEVER, would you ever find a similar article about women. There is a very clear double standard in women’s favour in our current culture.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:17 AM
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Kinda off topic again. We are talking about an article supporting sending dead beats to war.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 02:00 AM
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You are barely intelligible. "Also I've seen countless men call for women jailed or hung for less than this on thus board more times than I can count". So because some bad men want to do bad things to women then this must justify bad women wanting to do bad things to men? Damn, this sounds like an anarchy. I mean, we could just call a spade a spade and denouce all forms of discrimination and bigotry, but no, let us be ruled by the worst of both of men and women at large.
/r/MensRights21/10/22 01:59 AM
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Change subs, this is Men's Right sub
/r/MensRights21/10/22 01:50 AM
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You sound unwell and are very much changing topics. Regardless i'll take this oppurtunity to point out the hypocrisies in your comments. According to you, deliberately using the draft to send "dead beats" to fight and die in a war is just, but, simultaneously, you seem to concern yourself with the ethics of a mandatory draft, i.e. you are against forcing people to fight against their will
/r/MensRights21/10/22 01:50 AM
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My goal is abundantly clear. Glad I reavealed your true intentions in here
/r/MensRights21/10/22 01:46 AM
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….so not seeing your child and being a “deadbeat” means you should be forced to fight for your life in the most brutal of means??????? I guess in that case we should pass a law that deadbeats be executed…. I’m glad you aren’t writing any laws…my god
/r/MensRights21/10/22 01:43 AM
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"Vladimir Putin’s mobilization order has failed miserably to stoke patriotism among most ordinary Russians—and it appears not to have had much success on the battlefield, but there is at least one unexpected perk for some women: dealing with deadbeat ex-husbands."
/r/MensRights21/10/22 01:38 AM
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Vladimir Putin’s mobilization order has failed miserably to stoke patriotism among most ordinary Russians—and it appears not to have had much success on the battlefield, but there is at least one unexpected perk for some women: dealing with deadbeat ex-husbands. So you mean to say saying "but there is at least one unexpected perk for some women: dealing with deadbeat ex-husbands." is not condoning or supportive of sending men to die in a war for monetary compensation and aligned with the title "…
/r/MensRights21/10/22 01:34 AM
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I’m not sure if you’re trying to imply something or just provide further details on the article
/r/MensRights21/10/22 01:20 AM
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Wherever this is happening, the fact that our western mainstream media is trying to put a positive spin on jilted women sending men to war in hopes of acquiring financial aid is proof how far misandry has come in our western culture
/r/MensRights21/10/22 01:06 AM
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Ya, so if her expectations are so high maybe she should be the one initiating?
/r/MensRights20/10/22 08:02 PM
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She should have taking him to the local park and spent thousands of dollars on a ring and asked him instead!!
/r/MensRights20/10/22 07:57 PM
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She could have proposed as well, no?
/r/MensRights20/10/22 07:56 PM
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Lmao
/r/MensRights20/10/22 01:28 AM
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I said it in the original comment…it appears as if it’s being spammed with likes by feminist to make it appear as if there is more support for this women’s ridiculous request
/r/MensRights20/10/22 01:06 AM
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I’ve never seen 9000 likes on any comment on that site, or anywhere close to that number
/r/MensRights20/10/22 01:04 AM
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I agree and would go further to say that she has some internal bias against men which is where her dislike of the trans movement is originating from
/r/MensRights20/10/22 01:03 AM
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What if I want an all white staff?
/r/MensRights20/10/22 12:18 AM
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Why did this get down votes?
/r/MensRights20/10/22 12:17 AM
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As your father must be so proud of you
/r/MensRights20/10/22 12:16 AM
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Check the 9000 likes on the only two comments, seems like this must have made it on TwoX or some other feminist sub and is now being spammed with likes on the only two comments supporting the woman’s request
/r/MensRights20/10/22 12:14 AM
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Here’s the catch though, they’re on equal footing with us, so this “need help to even the playing field” mantra just puts them in a position of advantage over men
/r/MensRights19/10/22 11:54 PM
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Josh Hawley wants to restore men to their previous roles though. He's trying to go back in time in the most unhelpful of ways. The bozo doesn't realize that restoring the traditional male role will do nothing but expose men to the same responsibilities minus any of benefits, which is just about where we are now with the exception of the respect for said role.
/r/MensRights18/10/22 02:58 PM
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What it means to be a man has been indirectly undermined. The importance of the traditional male role has been diminished but still held in place, that is, women no longer need to rely on men financially, but still demand it in often enough cases. It’s analogous to having the same responsibilities at work but with less pay and respect. So in other words, the script wasn't destroyed, at least not in this respect, but rather, it was relegated to a lower level or worth. And I would argue the assaul…
/r/MensRights18/10/22 02:39 PM
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Currently, he’s the only choice for MRAs. Beggars can’t be choosers. Lose sight of that and you might be shooting yourself in the foot
/r/MensRights18/10/22 02:10 PM
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If that is the case then I believe we need to eliminate the draft altogether. It’s the only fair and ethical solution.
/r/MensRights12/10/22 10:01 PM
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💯
/r/MensRights09/10/22 01:35 PM
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Most women voted to maintain the mandatory draft for men in 2014 Is this for USA or Sweden, and do you have, or know, where I can find evidence of this?
/r/MensRights26/09/22 12:10 AM
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About time someone said it
/r/MensRights23/09/22 01:43 PM
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We are not expendable. If he wants to be, then by all means I won't stop him
/r/MensRights02/09/22 03:34 PM
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This is fantastic work
/r/MensRights02/09/22 01:34 PM
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How are you valuing human life in all of this? No, I honestly think it’s insanely discriminatory and oppressive to draft only men, oppressive and discriminatory for men that is. Hence why you find little to no interest from feminist on this topic. They recognize it’s a horrible deal for men. And to make matters worse, in our current western culture, men are held responsible for all of societies woes
/r/MensRights30/08/22 09:03 PM
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Well something needs to be done surely. You can’t indebt half the population and promise nothing in return. If they actually valued your sacrifices for your country then they would provide you with something more than a pat on the back and a job well done
/r/MensRights30/08/22 07:56 PM
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If men are half the population and it’s better for all men, then I’d say we are at a pretty good start
/r/MensRights30/08/22 07:55 PM
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Most modern day men have no place on the battlefield either. The average modern day man can’t even do one pull-up or bench press their own bodyweight
/r/MensRights30/08/22 07:48 PM
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You’re trying to think so “practically” that you are forgetting there is human life, psychological and emotional suffering involved in these decisions.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 07:45 PM
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58 000 Americans died in the Vietnam war. There’s no coming back from death.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 07:29 PM
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You can’t reap the rewards once you’re dead. And you shouldn’t have to “simply” survive to reap those rewards. Either way, you are for a piece of legislation that has life and death consequences for one group of people. You can’t simply believe in good faith that those who would bear the burden and responsibility of this law if events were to permit it, reap no added benefits from society.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 07:27 PM
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Ya, that’s all your argument stands on. I think you are very detached from the horrors of war and how the group of people that gets forced into combat faces far more horrible outcomes than those who do not. Maybe, seeing as this is a massive burden men may face that women will not, should we perhaps award men some privileges in society to compensate for the potential tragedies we may impose on them?
/r/MensRights30/08/22 07:18 PM
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Sounds to me like you're trying to set the where this line is drawn. Maybe we should select people based on height and weight. An easy metric to use. Come in, get weighed, get measured and the biggest get sent first. Also, African Americans tend to be stronger and naturally fitter than white americans.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 07:13 PM
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What about African Americans? On average, they tend to be bigger and stronger, should we prioritize drafting African Americans? Would you support that if the evidence justified it?
/r/MensRights30/08/22 07:03 PM
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The same way you draft men
/r/MensRights30/08/22 07:01 PM
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So in other words, there are very capable women who are not in the army during war time and should be, especially if they don’t want children
/r/MensRights30/08/22 03:43 PM
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How does women’s access to education and healthcare reduce mine? This was your question. Not this "What privileges and extra resources are women given that men aren’t?" I also never said that women having access to education and healthcare reduces yours. Hence why I said you misunderstood. What I did say though was that women (feminist) are fighting for priveleges and extra resources over men, and so is why I asked this "Do you think one group of people, based on some physical characteristic the…
/r/MensRights30/08/22 03:39 PM
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Oh, you just strike me as a tradtionally conservative female with your opinions. It just feels like you might be insecure about your masculinity and are trying to enforce gender roles as a means to feeling more masculine. I say this because you are fighting against your own best interest and I get the impression no amount of reasoning can change your mind which leads me to believe you have strong personal motives for this stance.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 03:09 PM
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So, there will always be a weakest man in the squad as well. So every woman in the top percentiles always joins the army?
/r/MensRights30/08/22 03:04 PM
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You misunderstood the point. Do you think one group of people, based on some physical characteristic they have no control over, should be given priveleges and extra resources other another group
/r/MensRights30/08/22 02:58 PM
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What about women who never want kids, should they be forced to have kids or be forced into war? ​ Surely, you can't believe they should be offered the privelege of security without fulfiling their end of the deal.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 02:52 PM
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Big jump? So is assuming that every child bearing women would be dead in a war. Also according to your logic, we should use non-child bearing women in war. They can't produce children, therefore have no children and so ya.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 02:46 PM
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You are a woman of course you feel this way
/r/MensRights30/08/22 02:42 PM
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Better health care and education. ​ I think you are missing what has been happening within western culture in realtion to men and women
/r/MensRights30/08/22 02:40 PM
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Immigration
/r/MensRights30/08/22 02:39 PM
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You’re fighting to disadvantage men while women fight for advantages. Ever wonder why they aren’t fighting passionately to be drafted.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 02:12 PM
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Men can serve as care takers….
/r/MensRights30/08/22 02:11 PM
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Genders roles exist if you want them to exist. You seem to have thrown fundamental human rights out the window. Do you believe in forced pregancy to revive the population once the war is over?
/r/MensRights30/08/22 02:02 PM
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No one said anything about children, did they? Bozo. And while you fight to maintain a male only war, they fight to gain better access to healthcare, support, education, opportunities, and unfair advantages over men.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 01:37 PM
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Ridiculous comment. So much to be discussed here and somehow this is the only thing that you can think about
/r/MensRights30/08/22 01:28 PM
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The fact that there isn't any conversation about some of the most consequential discrimination happening in our time, a time when all we do is discuss and attempt to rectify inequalities, is evidence of how dire things have gotten for men.
/r/MensRights30/08/22 11:27 AM
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He wasn’t being literal….
/r/MensRights27/08/22 09:21 AM
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I don’t think this could have been said better. Everyone should read this, and not just once.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 12:53 AM
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Very well said. I can’t commend you enough for these insights. I couldn’t agree with this more.
/r/MensRights26/08/22 12:46 AM
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Our time is coming boys, don’t worry
/r/MensRights26/08/22 12:11 AM
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en have resources, if they don’t reach out, then create communities for men to feel like they can reach out. Agai Trash. Go back to twoX, because I'm very positive that's where you came from.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 04:30 PM
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Opinions, not facts. Provide me with a study to corroborate this trash. Stop repeating the same thing and deflecting. Stop trying to blame men for commiting suicide. This is vile
/r/MensRights25/08/22 04:27 PM
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We just don’t have the hormonal structure to complete it That's an opinion not a fact. You have a theory as to why men commit suicide 3 times more often than women, nothing more. What we do know is that men are dying from suicide vastly more often than women, and seeing that the main objective of discussing suicide is preventing death, then it goes to reason that suicide is a more pressing concern for men than it is women. And, I emphasize, that doesn't mean that it isn't a concern for women, it…
/r/MensRights25/08/22 04:20 PM
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You didn’t answer my questions. And yes, I absolutely believe that suicide is an issue that should be addressed for both genders, with that being said, your assessment as to the disparity in successful suicide rates between genders is lacking considerably. Stop deflecting, assuming intent is equal for suicide attempts is dishonest and naive.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 04:07 PM
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You are naive. To believe that all suicide attempts are equal on commitment of following through is laughable. Think about it. If you slice your wrist, never call for help, how is it that you don’t die? If you swallow a lethal dose of some drug, don’t call for help, how is it that you don’t die? I’m curious, walk me through this
/r/MensRights25/08/22 02:50 PM
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100%
/r/MensRights25/08/22 11:50 AM
2

Flipping the script is silly. Just be yourself, fuck everyone else
/r/MensRights25/08/22 11:48 AM
2

Slicing your wrist with someone home, or overdosing on meds only to call an ambulance immediately after, is different than jumping off a cliff, unless of course you have a parachute on, pull the chute, then log yourself as a suicide attempt. In that case, it's the exact same.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 11:45 AM
11

No idea why this comment has this many upvotes. It's utterly diminishing of OP's experiences, neglects to take into account the reality of our cultural acceptance of placing ridiculous standards on men's height, fails to picks up on OP's sarcasm, and finally insults OP. I have to admit, I'm pretty saddened to see such a worthless comment receive so much support in here.
/r/MensRights25/08/22 11:38 AM
1

Not at all. I don't believe in "maning up". What I'm advocating for is moral integrity, which yes, overlaps with "being a man", but no, is not a standard I apply to only one gender. The thing is, some masculine ideals have some value to them, but these are values which both gender should be held to a standard of, or minimally encouraged equally to pursue. So to summarize, no, I'm firmly against, and in fact depise, the whole "being a man" standard placed on men, but yes, I do believe that moral …
/r/MensRights25/08/22 11:29 AM
6

Could the use of more violent means be because men are more determined to die?
/r/MensRights25/08/22 12:10 AM
7

I don't think you know what cry for help means. In this context it means that the attempt to take their life was never intended to succeed, it was only done to gain attention
/r/MensRights25/08/22 12:08 AM
57

The idiots who banned Tate are only kicking the can down the road. Sooner or later, society is going to have to grapple with the fact that our current culture has a heavy anti-male bias and that treating half of society with disdain has consequences. There will be a backlash, they’re just too self-righteous to see it coming.
/r/MensRights24/08/22 08:01 PM
14

I can, and do blame them. Espousing damaging opinions and standards on an entire group of people, even if you are a member of said group, all for the sake of elevating yourself in the eyes of others, is pretty damn awful. It’s one thing if you’re willing to throw yourself under the bus just to “get some”, it’s something completely different to throw others under the bus alongside with you.
/r/MensRights24/08/22 03:40 PM
22

100%
/r/MensRights24/08/22 11:19 AM
2

Lmao okay there buddy. What are you compensating for? Women are in the process of creating laws that could have you arrested for staring too long and here you are, being all 18 year old naive and all
/r/MensRights23/08/22 09:57 PM
5

Yo dumbo, he’s complaining about them complaining, Jesus Christ your daft
/r/MensRights23/08/22 09:47 PM
5

Also, you are such a big strong competent man. Feel good now?
/r/MensRights23/08/22 09:36 PM
6

You have the reading comprehension of a 10 year old
/r/MensRights23/08/22 09:35 PM
6

Still missed the point. Try rereading OP’s post. It might sink in. I’ll give you a hint…he’s not addressing the violence in the shows, he’s pointing out…..hypocrisy
/r/MensRights23/08/22 09:32 PM
3

You are unwell
/r/MensRights23/08/22 09:28 PM
9

Okay there buddy, maybe you oughta be honest with yourself and admit to hating white people
/r/MensRights23/08/22 09:23 PM
0

I’m starting to think we’re being brigades here
/r/MensRights23/08/22 08:08 PM
4

You missed the point
/r/MensRights23/08/22 08:06 PM
4

She sounds like someone I wouldn’t want to spend anytime with
/r/MensRights19/08/22 01:24 PM
10

I’m not sure why there are so many downvotes on someone giving an honest and considerate opinion. You are entitled to feel the way you do. It’s understandable and shows you care about men’s feelings. With that being said, men do find themselves in world where they are either criticized for approaching women when the women is not open to their advances, and yet, simultaneously expected to “lead”, i.e. approach women. That is, be the man”, and make her “feel like a lady”. Which is just another way…
/r/MensRights19/08/22 01:13 PM
1

Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Yes, reddit has a problem with censoring certain views, I could not agree more, specifically views that challenge the current woke/feminist toxic narrative. But that doesn't mean that all views on reddit are worthless and without any valuable insight.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 12:35 PM
2

You have become too cynical. Some time away from these topics might help you recalibrate yourself.
/r/MensRights19/08/22 12:30 PM
1

Two X is full of bots
/r/MensRights18/08/22 12:20 PM
6

You don't believe in men's rights lmao. Who do you think you are fooling??
/r/MensRights18/08/22 12:20 PM
3

It’s definitely not losing, but there are clear signs of it losing traction, which is how these cultural movements always begin.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 12:16 PM
2

For all those who point to all the discriminations men continue to face as a rebuttal to OP's post, do you really expect for all of the disadvantages and discriminatory polices to be challenged and addressed at once? That isn't how these cultural shifts work. They don't happen overnight. The point here is that we are seeing positive changes, albeit minimally, happening at the peak of this feminist frenzy, which is a very good sign.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 12:15 PM
2

Do you expect all of these things to happen overnight?
/r/MensRights18/08/22 12:11 PM
5

100%
/r/MensRights18/08/22 12:10 PM
37

Spot on. It will become harder and harder for them to justify their hypocrisies as they become more and more extreme.
/r/MensRights18/08/22 12:09 PM
6

It's a start. These things happen slowly and this is the first time we've seen anything OP has mentioned happenening, and most importantly, is it's happening at the peak of this woke/feminist cultural movement. This cannot be overlooked
/r/MensRights18/08/22 12:08 PM
1

100%
/r/MensRights16/08/22 05:03 PM
5

It’s a start. Everything has a start
/r/MensRights16/08/22 05:02 PM
2

100%
/r/MensRights16/08/22 04:26 PM
1

Off topic troll
/r/MensRights16/08/22 04:24 PM
1

Go away troll
/r/MensRights16/08/22 01:14 PM
3

I understand fully that this is an anti male issue. Regardless, we have voices, we matter. Society absolutely depends on us. Our protectiveness of women and unwillingness to challenge their rhetoric is what lead us here. Again, many men have fought this battle, but not enough of us have. It’s extremely evident that they support each other far better than we support other men.
/r/MensRights16/08/22 10:24 AM
35

I disagree. Silence is what enables them and what has enabled them thus far. We are half the population. Our problem is that we aren’t inclined to stand up together to fight anything feminine
/r/MensRights15/08/22 09:32 PM
11

I think if you made this about race it would be considered racist, so need I say anymore
/r/MensRights15/08/22 09:30 PM
2

Same with women…that’s why abortion should be illegal, right?
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:06 PM
0

Dumb comment. Think it over
/r/MensRights14/08/22 11:50 AM
2

Vile
/r/MensRights14/08/22 09:22 AM
2

Why do you care if men help women?
/r/MensRights09/08/22 02:00 PM
1

Feminist, like the one you mention, have very little, if any, empathy for men. So all of those statistics she’s arguing against generate zero emotional response in her, while those same statistics for women, despite being just a fraction of the severity seen in men, elicits a huge emotional response. And, unless she’s a very emotionally intelligent and mature person, she will always find a way to justify or minimize the disparities of suffering revealed in those numbers. So save your breath for …
/r/MensRights08/08/22 12:54 PM
2

This should be illegal
/r/MensRights07/08/22 01:15 PM
1

Same goes for women who get an abortion in some states. Keep the kid or go to jail, it’s not oppression. I don’t understand why feminist are so bothered. It’s really simple
/r/MensRights06/08/22 05:43 PM
1

I’m not sure why you’re in this sub. You have absolutely no intention on being civil
/r/MensRights06/08/22 05:37 PM
6

That judge needs to be tossed and jailed himself
/r/MensRights05/08/22 01:10 PM
5

This is precisely why feminism has managed to reach the point it’s at now. That is, women support and protect each other at much higher rates than men, while simultaneously demanding and encouraging men to protect women over other men. Essentially, they’re empathy and compassion hogs. Irony is, they claim to the be the empathetic sex. Cowards that demand courage.
/r/MensRights02/08/22 01:45 AM
2

Women should then sacrifice other women, not men. What benefit does it serve a woman to have more women competing for the same men?
/r/MensRights02/08/22 01:41 AM
-1

Ya okay there….bigot
/r/MensRights02/08/22 01:20 AM
3

I’m not going to talk about misogyny with a misandrist
/r/MensRights29/07/22 07:46 PM
8

If he shit on all women then you shit on all men. Did you not?
/r/MensRights29/07/22 07:13 PM
16

Nope, but finding misogyny where there is none definitely does
/r/MensRights29/07/22 05:12 PM
8

Western culture has become a complete utter fucken joke thanks to feminism and progressive politics. Absolutely disgraceful
/r/MensRights29/07/22 04:24 PM
6

Vile bigot
/r/MensRights29/07/22 04:20 PM
7

uhhhhhh okay?
/r/MensRights28/07/22 05:21 PM
7

These bozos we share the same genitalia with are a big part of the problem that's holding men back from moving past these antiquated sexist roles that only serve to be used against us.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 05:19 PM
24

Go see a psychiatrist, seriously, you really need it.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 05:14 PM
49

Vile bigot
/r/MensRights28/07/22 05:13 PM
7

Asking him to repeat the same thing others have already said to you which we're unsuccessful in having you change your mind is pointless for him. Your mind won't be changed, and no, PPD isn't necessarily worse than any other form of depression.
/r/MensRights28/07/22 04:44 PM
5

Disgusting attempt to deflect.
/r/MensRights26/07/22 12:15 PM
2

Vile bigot
/r/MensRights21/07/22 06:59 PM
2

Well done
/r/MensRights15/07/22 01:17 AM
6

The legal system should first and foremost never be weaponized, always remember that
/r/MensRights14/07/22 08:48 PM
10

Rape is an issue, false accusations are an issue. Why is that so hard to understand
/r/MensRights14/07/22 08:47 PM
9

So while you know women who were raped, I know men who had false accusations raised against them. You clearly don’t believe false accusations are damaging enough or prevalent enough to be of importance so what’s your aim?
/r/MensRights14/07/22 08:47 PM
27

Everyone here is missing the point, shaming someone about being suicidal is a pretty damn awful thing to do.
/r/MensRights14/07/22 07:29 PM
8

Absolutely vile
/r/MensRights14/07/22 06:44 PM
6

No, Im happy we have scummy people like you around here. It legitimizes how trashy women can be as well
/r/MensRights13/07/22 08:02 PM
6

Bigot
/r/MensRights13/07/22 08:01 PM
12

I’m very glad this article has taken an empathetic approach for these men. Maybe things are changing after all
/r/MensRights12/07/22 09:56 PM
1

Health insurance isn’t free, either it’s private or taxed. Stop cherry picking what’s in your best interest
/r/MensRights12/07/22 07:39 PM
1

So let me get this straight, men should pay higher car insurance because men as a group cause more accidents and therefore cost insurance companies more, but women as a whole, who require more medical care, shouldn’t have to pay more medical insurance?? Wtf
/r/MensRights12/07/22 03:16 PM
1

"If women tend to have more health concerns than a man over the years, due to reproduction, menstruation, post-partum, and menopause related issues, and women's health insurance therefore covered more $ per year due to that...then while the actual dollar amount may be distributed 'unequally', it does still mean both men and women get what they need, which is adequate health care" Your words ...... so women should pay more for health care?
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:13 PM
1

Doesn't this mean women should pay more for health care considering your comment in another thread about how men should pay more for car insurance?
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:10 PM
1

It is punishing you based on the actions of others who you share traits with.
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:07 PM
0

Can we do the same for race?
/r/MensRights12/07/22 02:03 PM
19

Entirely the fault of the mother except it’s the child who suffers. It’s the mom who needs to be punished, not the child
/r/MensRights12/07/22 11:36 AM
-1

What’s with the name calling. Reminds me of treatment you’d get in toxic feminist subs. Also, I feel awful for this man but no, as an adult who cared for this child for 5 years, a kid who didn’t choose this life and who’s entire life is this man, to abandon him like that because of the actions of the mother is awful. If you wanna fight it out, take that out with the mom. The same way it would be awful if you found out you took the wrong baby home from the hospital and so decided to abandon him/h…
/r/MensRights12/07/22 11:31 AM
0

You don’t belong here if you can’t be bothered to engage meaningfully. Read the next comments and learn how to how civil disagreements
/r/MensRights09/07/22 01:55 PM
4

Excellent post. Very clearly defines how feminism has managed to rise to the extent that it has and provides instructions on how each of us can lessen their grasp on our world. Remember, he who controls information controls the world
/r/MensRights09/07/22 12:58 PM
8

It’s a reductionistic analogy that loses all meaning when considering the broad scale of events that war covers. Besides that, while republicans/right wing politics fight to keep the draft only men, i.e. the obligation for men to surrender their bodies and lives, feminist fight to retain and acquire as much of the resources we have in our respective countries to improve the lives of women at the cost of the quality of lives for men. So in other words, men are forced to surrender their lives and …
/r/MensRights09/07/22 01:11 AM
-9

That’s not war though
/r/MensRights08/07/22 10:46 PM
5

If your goal is to increase empathy for the other you would be better to invest your time trying to get those in the feminist subs to see men as people with feelings and experiences than the other way around. There’s much more work to be done there than there is here.
/r/MensRights08/07/22 04:43 PM
10

Now imagine that the rich kid claimed the poor kid had more rights than he did and that the poor kid was the cause of all of his problems. Now also imagine that when the poor kid addressed his run down footwear the rich kid drowned him out with insults of all sorts.
/r/MensRights06/07/22 01:04 AM
7

The tides are turning. A few years ago this would have been celebrated on various social media platforms.
/r/MensRights28/06/22 10:27 PM
1

I completely agree with your last paragraph. It's something I've said many times, wokeism was given life by and through feminism. But abstract yourself away a little bit from the details and pay attention to the slight power shift that has occured over the past year or so. Will it last? Nobody knows, but for the first time for as long as I have been interested in western culture's gynocentrism have I noticed them lose traction.
/r/MensRights27/06/22 06:47 PM
8

I must have missed it, so could you please kindly direct me to some of articles/views that show the world cares to the same extent about exclusive male drafts and all fo the resulting trauma said men experience as they do about abortion?
/r/MensRights27/06/22 02:25 PM
35

Woman's right to bodily integrity revoked -------> International uproar Ukrainian men 18-65 years or age forced to fight or remain in a war torn region -------> silence
/r/MensRights27/06/22 12:05 PM
20

Pretty obvious, Woman's right to bodily integrity revoked -------> International uproar Ukrainian men 18-65 years or age forced to fight or remain in a war torn region -------> nothing
/r/MensRights27/06/22 12:05 PM
10

Please, tell me what percentage I got wrong. I’m asking what relevance it has that the men who voted against roe v wade were men and not women. We ALREADY discussed that half the male population disagrees with it. Honestly, I don’t think you have a clue what your even trying to get to And just to remind you, the comment that started this was: “Men are overwhelming the ones writing the laws and acting as judges. It is mind blowing how religious the United States is but still 63% of women feel the…
/r/MensRights26/06/22 12:08 PM
11

Are you implying because I share the same genitals as those who were involved in this debacle that I must somehow be complicit? Or that this somehow requires me to take responsibility for what has happened? Also, you avoided that it appears more than 1 in 3 women believe they should have their rights revoked. That too is a sizeable number, but let’s avoid talking about that and instead focus only on the men.
/r/MensRights26/06/22 11:40 AM
12

If 37 percent of women are pro life then why just point the finger at men?
/r/MensRights26/06/22 11:14 AM
4

100%
/r/MensRights24/06/22 01:21 PM
3

Most accurate assesment I've ever read/heard
/r/MensRights24/06/22 01:28 AM
35

You are against men, it's obvious. For everyone reading this comment, I implore you to gloss over her comment history and rightfully form your opinion of her intentions in this sub. She's a bigoted troll in the making
/r/MensRights23/06/22 12:43 AM
2

When out of arguments, result to childish attacks and diversion!!
/r/MensRights23/06/22 12:37 AM
3

Bear with me for a second here, imagine believing, that framing someone for a crime, a crime that can result in many years behind bars, and let us ignore the trauma of being intentionally and falsely accused, and all of the non legal enforced consequences this person would bear, and now imagine, arguing that the perpetrator of said false and deliberate accusation, should bear no legal punishment, that is, the only punishment someone guilty of said crime would endure is social disrepute. Does tha…
/r/MensRights23/06/22 12:35 AM
1

Knee jerk reaction that may well be wrong. In that event, I do apologize. But as for how you managed to arrive at the conclusion that the person at the center of our conversation does not have an anti-male bias is sort of beyond me. She frequents MRM doing nothing but challenging men on the sub and rarely, if ever, offering support. A little strange for someone who supposedly has men's best interest at heart, no? I'd be inclined to assume she plays devil's advocate and is neutral in general, but…
/r/MensRights23/06/22 12:24 AM
2

Same applies to you
/r/MensRights22/06/22 12:41 PM
5

Stop being obtuse. It’s evident just by glossing over what you choose to comment on and the content of your comments. I surely hope you are self aware enough to realize this nasty trait you currently possess
/r/MensRights19/06/22 06:29 PM
2

Ellen degenerate, the Oscar’s
/r/MensRights19/06/22 12:38 PM
14

We get it, you’re a bigot, you hate men
/r/MensRights19/06/22 12:34 PM
57

Okay, let’s all agree on some things here, by being a cop you are signing up to risk your life for the good of others, and men have no obligation to protect anyone just because “that’s what good men do”. Also, it’s very revealing, and disturbing, how after several months there is still complete radio silence about the extremely consequential discrimination of men in Ukraine are facing.
/r/MensRights04/06/22 11:02 AM
29

You don’t have it harder. You gave a few anecdotes that prove nothing, tried to implicitly generalize them to all women, and then never bothered mentioning the obstacles men face which is a necessary in a conversation of this nature. You want to be heard, but you never bother to listen.
/r/MensRights30/05/22 01:50 PM
7

What feminism is supposed to be and what it actually is are very different. Is there a grand hall of induction, that demands any newly admitted "feminist" to embody certain values and beliefs? If not, then the definition you claim it has, and the materialization of feminism are not bound together. Think of it like this, imagine if anyone could call themselves a doctor, and there was no governing body vetting and requiring a set of values and ethics that doctors are currently required to admit to…
/r/MensRights11/05/22 01:26 AM
6

Because of the dynamic and position feminism has taken, men unfortunately aren't awarded the option of fighting for all genders, that is, the moment you mention a concern for the male experience or perspective you are silenced or worse.
/r/MensRights11/05/22 01:20 AM
7

You're not being fair by failing to acknowledge that feminism is a collective, with various beliefs and forms with the only commonality being to promote women's welfare. You don't need to look far to know that the bulk of mainstream feminism spares no concern for men's plights.
/r/MensRights11/05/22 01:17 AM
3

If this point is an actual concern for you then it would be more effective to address it to those who actually have managed to capture our mainstream culture that reaches all the way up to the political level, i.e. feminism It it is feminism that has monopolized the spotlight for gender issues and refuses to acknowledge that men have their own distinct set of issues, and it is them who currently wields the influence with respect to gender issues across all of the western world
/r/MensRights11/05/22 01:13 AM
3

So in other words, the only reason we should address men falling behind in educational settings is so that women can maintain their high standards of men, and NOT because this leads to undesirable consequences for men…..
/r/MensRights18/04/22 01:27 PM
2

So does this mean that you’re anti-abortion? You’re arguing men could easily avoid this by not getting a woman pregnant and therefore shouldn’t be able to opt out (which we are identifying as being the male equivalent of abortion). And yet, you simultaneously admit to having an abortion, when you too could have avoided becoming pregnant. So does that mean women don’t have the same degree of responsibility getting pregnant as men do getting a woman pregnant? I’m utterly confused. Didn’t you chose…
/r/MensRights16/04/22 12:47 PM
1

lmao, honestly you're a waste of space. And every man who walks by you and doesn't use his greater strength to brutally beat you to death is someone you have to be thankful to
/r/MensRights12/04/22 12:17 AM
1

You've somehow managed to avoid addressing the point that feminist are just about, completely and utterly silent on this issue. We are all very aware that feminist are not silent about any discriminatory belief, idea, or practice, whether real or perceived. AND YET, when the most blatant and damaging form of systemic gender discrimination is set in motion for the whole word to witness, they don't raise a single voice to address it.
/r/MensRights12/04/22 12:14 AM
1

Spot on. I completely share that sentiment. I hope the time has come for men to finally stand against the oppressive maintstream media and let it be known that this man bashing trend must end
/r/MensRights11/03/22 12:01 PM
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