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My grandfather was so bothered by what he called the "Hollywooding" in the film that he wrote a book about his experiences in the war. As a member of the Royal Canadian Air Force, he was involved in air and ground fighting, including D-Day. (He is where I got most of my impressions about the second world war, particularly before online research became a thing. I'm slightly old >.>)
/r/MensRights18/03/16 03:31 PM
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Vietnam has a better reputation for being a meat grinder for the purpose of political gain. All wars are for the purpose of political gain. In that light, if you compare the casualties between World War II and Vietnam, you would know that U.S. involvement in World War II was very costly (as it was for all nations taking part). 405 000 U.S. soldiers died between December of 1941 and August of 1945. Compare that to the 50 000 deaths in Vietnam between 1955 and 1975. The only difference is that Ame…
/r/MensRights18/03/16 06:32 AM
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You seem to have entirely missed the point. I got the point. I simply found it poorly expressed by using a pirated upload of a film clip with the misleading title "Video footage of men enjoying their male privilege". It strikes me as grossly disingenuous to post a fictionalized scene that was almost certainly overdramatized to purposefully take hold of the viewer's emotions. This is how Hollywood makes successful movies. Apart from just rehashing same shit over and over again, but that's another…
/r/MensRights18/03/16 05:52 AM
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That isn't quite what I was thinking. I meant actually a video of an interview with a war veteran, without any fictional bookending or impressive special effects.
/r/MensRights18/03/16 01:47 AM
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My goal in posting it here was not to open a discussion on that exact topic though, rather I thought how he broke down the evasion tactics to honest debate. That was not made evident in the title. What's troubling is that even though the majority of your response was insightful you still disregard the author's opinion outright when he is clearly being genuine. I'm not sure our definitions of "disregard" match. I took the time to consider his opinion (despite being offended at its clear implicati…
/r/MensRights18/03/16 12:22 AM
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Is it wise to post something that is in violation of copyright? Saving Private Ryan is probably not owned by user "waffleomg". Also, "video footage" and "Hollywood film" are not synonymous. How about an interview with an actual war veteran?
/r/MensRights17/03/16 10:38 PM
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I am at odds with this piece, because it seems disingenuous. One of the most common arguments I have heard when trans people are discussed is that any skepticism directed towards trans people is transphobic and that, as a cisgender person, I cannot possibly understand anything about the decisions trans people make and the issues they face. Any intermediate school debater will notice that this is not, in fact, an argument, but a line of attack. The author appears to have left out the fact that th…
/r/MensRights17/03/16 09:11 PM
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If there isn't enough evidence to go to trial, it is an unproven or unsubstantiated claim. It doesn't mean it isn't true. Cases of mistaken identity are also not false accusations. Just incorrect ones. For a false accusation, the claim must be disproven. The beauty of this is that not all false accusers will be caught, and not all of them will be judged to have laid a malicious false accusation, based on the evidence (or lack thereof). Like any legal measure, it would be imperfect. Why is that p…
/r/MensRights17/03/16 08:41 PM
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Eugh. Colleges need to close; they're just making everyone stupid, terrified and hyperreactionary.
/r/MensRights17/03/16 08:28 PM
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First link was an interesting abstract with a paywall keeping me from reading the data. Three studies examined the role of stereotype threat in boys' academic underachievement. Study 1 (children aged 4–10, n = 238) showed that girls from age 4 years and boys from age 7 years believed, and thought adults believed, that boys are academically inferior to girls. Study 2 manipulated stereotype threat, informing children aged 7–8 years (n = 162) that boys tend to do worse than girls at school. This ma…
/r/MensRights17/03/16 07:34 PM
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I adore your sarcasm, but I'm a few steps ahead of you. The research that I've been through does not demonstrate cause, only correlation. It's really not my job to prove myself wrong, though. So if you feel at all up to the task of (brace yourself) having a discussion about this, bring your thinking boots and a few interesting links that support your view.
/r/MensRights17/03/16 07:28 PM
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Reading your first link, I saw a table on Page 415 that shows that the top 0.01% (who scored 700 or above on their SATs) sharply declined between 1981 and 1995, halving every five years from 13.5:1 ratio of male achievers to female, down to 3.87:1 I did not read the entire piece, so I may have missed the part where they explained that rather steep change. The following page, 416, the table shows that female students consistently outperformed males in language comprehension (reading and writing).…
/r/MensRights17/03/16 07:25 PM
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His hypothesis was entirely supported by the data. I would be interested to see that data before I ignorantly start parroting such remarks. He lost his job because of political correctness. I need to see proof of that before I accept it. /u/Malevonite1 already provided a compelling response to your question. I read it, and don't agree with those assertions. I'll repost them here, for completion, and comment on them individually. Forming an accurate cultural narrative What is the benefit to men's…
/r/MensRights17/03/16 06:59 PM
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My point- admittedly made in a flippant and facetious manner I'm glad I'm not the one pointing this out. Larry Summers lost his job at Harvard for pointing out that the abundance of males at the high end of the IQ spectrum goes a long way towards explaining to the dearth of females in the highest positions within the hard sciences. How does it explain that? What studies are conceivably complete and deep enough to conclude that one sex is smarter than the other? Intelligence is individual. Larry …
/r/MensRights17/03/16 06:28 PM
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So a tee-shirt and a book made in bad taste motivated 23 studies into male intelligence? No wonder knee-jerk "compensating" is thought to be a masculine trait. So what if a small percentage of intersectional feminists think boys are stupid? Those same overzealous feminists take their "higher intellect" and use it to get Gender Studies Degrees and complain about how hard it is to make money in a "man's world". Y'know, instead of getting an Electrical Engineering Certificate, and just being an act…
/r/MensRights17/03/16 05:17 PM
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A more useful title could be "Studies Show Boys' Poor Academics Not A Result of Low Intelligence". Why resort to Intersectional Feminist tactics?
/r/MensRights17/03/16 03:02 PM
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What does this have to do with rights advocacy?
/r/MensRights17/03/16 02:46 PM
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Actually, it's one mistake three times. And as any teacher will tell you, once you practice something three times, you can make a habit out of it.
/r/MensRights17/03/16 02:44 PM
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Better idea. Acknowledge that the extra time actually makes a difference. Guys who spend ten minutes the bathroom getting ready for the morning look like they spent ten minutes getting ready.
/r/MensRights16/03/16 06:44 PM
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You have the ability to check your privilege too, but you can't check your Check Your Privilege privilege. :(
/r/MensRights16/03/16 08:42 AM
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"She's not fat, she's a real woman." Why does she look like an overinflated water balloon wrapped in elastic bands?
/r/MensRights16/03/16 08:38 AM
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It's still pleasantly ironic that two young men were treated like a bombing comedian at a prison show for saying exactly what feminists say. It's also a super useful litmus test. If you want to know if someone is stupid or crazy, just ask them what meninism is.
/r/MensRights16/03/16 08:35 AM
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It's that the Meninists were being such perfect replicas of Feminists that nobody realized that these college boys were trolling to make a point about feminism being irrational and absurd.
/r/MensRights16/03/16 08:14 AM
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My advice is wait for him to get out of jail, and not to let your kids become feminists.
/r/MensRights16/03/16 02:08 AM
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John Oliver gets about 9 out of 10 topics right. This one, I don't think got the research it deserved.
/r/MensRights16/03/16 01:53 AM
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If this isn't trolling, then this woman has schizophrenia and was having multiple episodes while writing this piece. Either way you look at it, this is more worth a laugh than a sad-panda.
/r/MensRights13/03/16 03:24 PM
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Which Hillary?
/r/MensRights13/03/16 03:21 PM
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light skin is also a mutation I think we're throwing the word "mutation" around a little too liberally. Generally when something changes for a reason, it isn't just a mutation. Changes were local to climate. Humans who spread east gained Indo-Chinese characteristics; those who spread north became paler and developed the attributes we associate with Europeans. Part of it was rudimentary Eugenics (early humans were less concerned about consent, and more concerned about bearing healthy offspring. H…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 04:41 PM
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I am not a geneticist, so I do not know what the SOX3 gene is, but your post asserts that Gene SOX3 mutates and then produces SRY, and it is that gene that determines the male gender - not a fully mutated Y chromosome. Sorry, but I'm not seeing the same conclusion that you are. Although it's wonderful that we have something new that bitter Intersectionals and Radfems can use to claim that men are subhuman creatures. Men need all the help they can get being dehumanized. It doesn't have to be fact…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 04:25 PM
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I'm noticing a substantial absence of a reference to the Y chromosome being aberrant or in any way a mutation. Only that Y chromosomes are subject to bit errors (since every cell has a copy of that genetic information, the likelihood that any particular mutation will become dominant is astronomically low).
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 04:14 PM
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Who says we have to do anything? Just leave it alone. Not every unusual or unsubstantiated piece of paper that floats around school campuses is poisonous and harmful. Just ignore it. Don't be a feminist by reacting like you've been raped by it. And don't act like a brainless jock by drawing dicks on things.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 03:49 PM
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You're sending the wrong message. But I guess we shouldn't expect feats of humanity from "BonerXpress".
/r/MensRights11/03/16 03:42 PM
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Which would accomplish what? Apart from giving SJWs more ammunition.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 03:26 PM
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This professor has never seen a man in a Speedo.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 12:53 PM
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I always gave the Job system the finger and went right for the Monk class. PUNCH ALL THE THINGS.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 12:51 PM
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I wanna know where I can pick me up some of this privilege. I'm broke as shit; some free privilege should come in handy, right?
/r/MensRights11/03/16 12:19 PM
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Immaturity rarely impresses social justice warriors.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 12:16 PM
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If your gender is an option on a form, you have cisgender privilege. I was very stubbornly told by a presumptuous feminist speaking on behalf of transgendered people that "Transgender" is not a gender, it is a modifier term meant to be coupled with "Male" and "Female". I'm guessing whoever designed and made that flyer didn't consult anyone who was transgendered to get their input. CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE Okeedoke. White [ ] Check. Male [ ] Check. Heterosexual [ ] I've never seen this on a form, but…
/r/MensRights11/03/16 12:14 PM
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Mmmh, I smell freshly picked cherries.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 12:01 PM
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I lived four blocks from that courthouse. I've met that judge in public. A little faith in my homeland has been restored.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 11:56 AM
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Ow.... my sensibilities hurt :(
/r/MensRights11/03/16 11:48 AM
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Two words: Restraining Order. Have him take one out on the woman and her kids. Make sure he cites the threat as part of the reason why he wants it to be impossible for those girls to be near him.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 11:23 AM
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the y chromosome is a mutation, prone to abnormalities. Would you mind finding the page on "Dimorphism" you found this from? All the ones I looked up didn't say anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 10:55 AM
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Hopefully no one has had to die for you. That would have been sad. And pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 10:54 AM
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Women who need a ladies-only class probably have performance anxiety. If they need a little hugbox so they can collectively become half as good in twice the amount of time, then that's the way it'll end up being.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 10:47 AM
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Partially Unrelated Fun Fact In Final Fantasy Tactics, you can hire Fighters to add to your team. (FF Tactics players know what I'm on about). You can select from male or female (each with unique job costumes). Hiring a Male Fighter costs 1500 of the game's currency. Hiring a Female Fighter costs 1400. The female fighters are also physically inferior, even if they possess the same visible stats. Just something I thought was funny. I wish I could make an image macro about it and drive Intersectio…
/r/MensRights11/03/16 10:42 AM
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She's that wide, and yet the only part of the cover she obscured was the word Health. The irony, it burns.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 10:36 AM
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I don't wake up filled with rage every morning. She sounds like an innately negative person, so it's hardly logical to place the blame for her bad attitude on her ex-husband. Reacting to a man being tired after waking up with screaming? Can someone Femsplain this to me? I get whole weekends off from being a mom. What irresponsible cunt thinks she can take a weekend off from being a parent? In other words "I get to dump my kids off on someone else and go be 17 years old." Hey lady, here's a crazy…
/r/MensRights11/03/16 10:28 AM
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If his girlfriend wasn't living rough with him, this wouldn't have even made the paper.
/r/MensRights11/03/16 10:13 AM
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TURBULENT TIPS ON SAVING TIME WITH FEMINISTS Don't open a Twitter or Tumblr account. Ignore all references to "The Patriarchy", "Toxic Masculinity" and "Microaggressions". Do not engage in arguments with Feminists. Nature has a long history of killing off things that have become too burdensome to support itself. Feminism will collapse under its own weight without us.
/r/MensRights09/03/16 07:56 PM
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Someone please confirm that this isn't a joke article. It sounds so ridiculous that I had to stop reading to fetch a tissue and mend my tears of laughter.
/r/MensRights09/03/16 07:52 PM
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So Amadeus' sister isn't better remembered because, statistically speaking, she was likely some IQ points behind her brother? Mozart's sister Maria was less remembered because he figured out how to get the music played. In some way, he was smarter than she was. Otherwise she'd be the famous one. But I suppose "Grr Patriarchy" fits your philosophy better. Forget biology for a second, do you not believe that women have been oppressed throughout much of history? Forget "believe", have you read any …
/r/MensRights09/03/16 05:46 PM
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Bye.
/r/MensRights04/03/16 06:04 PM
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You have missed something very important. People get paid for work. Getting paid is a reward for work - a benefit. Anyone who gets an immediate benefit for putting themselves at risk is not being exploited unfairly. You cannot claim to be unrecognized and "disposable" when you're making thousands of dollars (which fishers and miners do). there is no harm in recognising the burden society puts on the shoulders of men What burdens are those? we should aim to stop the demonisation and marginalisati…
/r/MensRights04/03/16 04:21 PM
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Unless you can provide evidence of your assertion that I am being obtuse, the reality of the situation disagrees with you. But I'm just as happy that you're going to make use of your time pestering someone else.
/r/MensRights04/03/16 03:30 PM
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Accepting the risk is not "becoming disposable". I am not the one creating that connection.
/r/MensRights03/03/16 07:17 PM
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Way to walk the straw-man. I said that "Individual systems of society cannot all be equal. A few, maybe." Of course, I expect absolutists to try to use the same faulty logic for one argument as for another. My remark made it clear (to everyone but you) that some things can be rebalanced because it legitimately benefits everyone to do so. Alternatively, some things being rebalanced for gender is objectively TERRIBLE and will have legitimately dangerous consequences.
/r/MensRights03/03/16 04:51 PM
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Why on Earth would we repeal Suffrage? The voting rights movement gave 75% of the population the ability to vote for their leader. Oh, I guess you're one of the people who still believe that all men could vote and women couldn't. Try a history book and get back to us.
/r/MensRights03/03/16 04:41 PM
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That's nice. You're just being kind of silly. Think about this for a moment. The Guardian is basically a feminist newspaper. And yet we are acting shamefully surprised that they quoted the woman statistic and not the men This is the first time I've ever seen women quoted in a homelessness statistic. Any time someone brings it up, men are referred to. If they say 14% are female, they are implying that 86% are male because MATH. I question the motivation of anyone that uses bitchy whining feminist…
/r/MensRights03/03/16 04:38 PM
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How about the men that do that work get some respect From whom? Respect is not automatic. Not everyone who risks their life for me is worthy of my respect. We mustn't allow ourselves the opportunity to follow a bad example, and nitpicking for inclusion in a homelessness statistic (when most homelessness statistics point out that most homeless are male anyway) is exactly that type of example.
/r/MensRights02/03/16 02:57 PM
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In the defense of the man, why is the mother not being held accountable for her drug use? She's not an invalid. In the defense of the prosecutors... had I been this guy, I would have threatened to call the police and have her arrested if she didn't quit meth.
/r/MensRights01/03/16 04:10 PM
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No one forced you to make fallacious claims. I didn't make fallacious claims. I made a statement that you disagree with. And you're dedicated to being a whiny bitch. This is literally the least important thing about my day, on the least day of my week. I will literally lose no sleep letting you stew. I think you're overreactionary, compulsive, and bordering on abusive. I hope you get over your ego and find something more productive to do. Byyyye.
/r/MensRights01/03/16 12:01 AM
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Honestly, I can't even tell what stance you're taking. Please clearly state your argument. Actually, to someone else. This discussion is depressing the fuck out of me.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 09:04 PM
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And you crave that sweet victory so hard that you're willing to harass replies on someone. Well, sucks to your ass-mar. I still think she's being an over-entitled whiner over needing to move seats. An airline wouldn't move someone to a shittier seat. So let's not try to accuse me of moving goalposts. You're cherrypicking information to suit your argument and ignoring possibilities. Bored, moving on.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 09:00 PM
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Toxic Masculinity is a myth perpetuated by intersectional feminism that states that predominantly male traits are harmful to everyone. Ideas like proactive sexuality, ambition, competitiveness, and aggression, are all demonized as "toxic". Intersectional feminists basically believe that all children should be raised like girls, to be sensitive, anticompetitive, and ultimately non-sexual. It's depressing.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 04:54 PM
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Arnold, JCVD, Bruce Willis, Jackie Chan, Stallone -- none of them sent me into a crippling body image crisis. I've probably seen all of their movies.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 04:50 PM
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The fact that it is unusual that men take their kids to the park, especially during work hours, has existed longer than the movement you're deriding. Is that fair to say? No, fathers have visited parks and boardwalks with their children for about as long as parks and boardwalks have existed. The fear of men as predators and pedophlies also has roots way outside and way before the craziest "feminists" having some carry to their voices. This was started by the homophobic panic. A few cases of chil…
/r/MensRights29/02/16 04:44 PM
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It's a complex issue. You cannot expect an easy rule for this sort of thing. Mental health is a very real situation, but there is very much a difference between a person who becomes a sex offender after one sexual experience, and a person who resorts to murder-suicide because she has experienced a lifetime of hardship and starvation. It's simply too complicated. You're also assuming I am favouring her as a woman. The fact is, I sympathize with her because she was starving to death.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 04:33 PM
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Oh goodness me, however-did-I-miss-that.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 04:27 PM
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Non sequitur statement is non sequitur. Cool story, bro. (-b'-')-b
/r/MensRights29/02/16 10:17 AM
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You haven't proven anything to me. I'm actually just kinda done arguing. But you're calling me out, and it's not cool. I stand by everything I've said so far, and I've already said everything about why I stand by it. Retreading old arguments because you can't be bothered to read them isn't my problem. Find something better to do.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 10:12 AM
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You also have the right to refuse unsafe work. Therefore, if your boss required you to do a performance of any kind on behalf of the company, and required you to become intoxicated before performing your task, you can argue that it was unsafe work and that you were forced to become unable to consent to the potential risk.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 09:51 AM
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Dude, you're hounding me for an argument, when I am simply not up for one. I has nothing to do with agree or not. I've argued my point on a variety of topics today and I'm exhausted.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 09:49 AM
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Our bad apples are not like theirs. Tsk, tsk. That's always the first step to losing your perspective. "We're different from them. We have more integrity. We're the victims." We are not going to accomplish anything that way. We're also not going to accomplish anything going after one another. For that reason, I will not further engage you in this exercise.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 09:43 AM
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I believe that calling yourself Feminist is all that it takes to be called a Feminist, because there's no formal vetting process. No one agrees to take responsibility for the shit that comes out of someone's mouth before it happens. I think that it's also pretty hypocritical for men to be so quick to tell women to control their bad apples when we have so many embarrassing wastes of oxygen that qualify as men. I therefore condemn each person for their actions, without cursing the sky as well.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 09:30 AM
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Happy Birthday Aileen! I bought a cake and some ba-- ::checks Wikipedia:: ...died Octo....kay then. More cake for me. ADD: Fun fact, her last words were "Yes, I would just like to say I'm sailing with the rock, and I'll be back, like Independence Day, with Jesus. June 6, like the movie. Big mother ship and all, I'll be back, I'll be back."
/r/MensRights29/02/16 08:42 AM
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I just got myself banned from Feminism as well. I got a couple of conversations in before the hammer dropped, but as soon as I was banned, I was muted by the moderation staff as well for 3 days! Boy howdy, they're like fragile little leaves over there. The censorship is so hard I thought I was on Twitter. EDIT: No, I wasn't rude to anyone. I was actually very careful. Nevertheless, some superintersectional feminist blew the whistle when I used the word "transgender" as a noun.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 08:02 AM
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Lawsuit. Defamation of character. You were forced under alcohol to perform for a camera, and make statements that impuned your character. (Promising not to assault women can be used to imply that you've conducted yourself improperly)
/r/MensRights29/02/16 07:49 AM
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Because life isn't always fair. Circumstances are mitigating factors, and not everyone will get a free pass. Comparing a child molester who got molested one time a long time ago, to a starving mother who couldn't feed her kids, just begs for a drastic imbalance of sympathy.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 07:47 AM
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I don't think it's as simple and basic as you're making it out to be.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 07:38 AM
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Nope, insanity doesn't excuse everything.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 07:35 AM
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Attempted suicide tells me she did have a real mental health issue. People with genuine insanity should not be kept in prison. But I'm confused as to whether she is receiving help.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 05:27 AM
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If 99% of the women on the planet died overnight it would take quite some time before our population returned to it's current level. If 99% of men died overnight it would be possible (though perhaps not realistic) to return to our current population within a year. So you're asserting that men are disposable. That's something we're trying to get people to stop thinking. I don't like being compared to a fucking bathroom tissue. Despite recent advances, rape is still viewed as a crime done almost e…
/r/MensRights29/02/16 05:23 AM
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A group of adult men in India chaining a 15 year old girl to a bed and having violent forceable sex with her until she dies is definitely different than two college kids getting drunk and having regrettable sex in an upstairs bathroom. First one is "Rape and Murder". I have to wonder though, why isn't her death considered to be the worst part of that? Not to say the rape wasn't a bad part, it was certainly awful. But someone being killed has got to be worse, and I don't understand why it isn't t…
/r/MensRights29/02/16 04:58 AM
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I'm on the same subject. I don't give two shits if she felt discriminated against. If she's that easy to upset, she should hire a handler.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 04:42 AM
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EVERYONE SHHHH BEFORE ANITA SARKEESIAN FINDS OUT.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 04:19 AM
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No, she'd just rather use her intelligence and her education and her success to make as many other people uncomfortable and miserable as possible, and claim it was because she was a woman - not because someone wanted to respect that she is a woman. This man's faith forbade him from disrespecting the body of a woman through touch. Inconvenient? Yes. Superstitious and silly? Mmm... I won't comment. But sexist and wrong? Hardly.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 02:45 AM
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Next time, ask them both. "Which one of you would like the free upgrade to the nicer seat?" See how fuckin' oppressed she feels.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 02:27 AM
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Why would a woman in her 80s not want a seat closer to the exit? Duhhh?
/r/MensRights29/02/16 02:26 AM
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It's a FAAAAKE.
/r/MensRights29/02/16 01:46 AM
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Thunderf00t's cool logic is deeply inspiring.
/r/MensRights28/02/16 11:31 PM
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Someone let the feminists onto KnowYourMeme :(
/r/MensRights28/02/16 11:19 PM
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Do you think this man would have killed them if he had, say, legal reproductive rights and choices? Remember that he's also legally prohibited from murdering people. That didn't stop him.
/r/MensRights28/02/16 11:04 PM
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Also, one quick search of my comment replies would show that I'm not an enemy of feminism. I am critical of extremism and do not respect lunatic behaviours. I regard the core of Feminism to be its virtues, and the fringes of Radical and Extremism to be where it gets the cesspit reputation from.
/r/MensRights28/02/16 09:27 PM
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Can't get too far before you hit a massive piece of bullshit that threatens to derail you off course. Citation needed. Extremist Feminism (aka Radical Feminism) is known for man-hating and misandry. This is not a secret. Extremist Feminism is also distinct from Feminism, which I've argued heavily, against opposition from others here on /r/MensRights. If you can elaborate on how you believe I've derailed, I'd be interested to hear it. If you just want to use the buzzword, lemme know, so I can dis…
/r/MensRights28/02/16 09:19 PM
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Anyone who doesn't call themselves a feminist is someone men's rights advocates don't have to stress about. That deserves a thankyou in 2016.
/r/MensRights28/02/16 08:50 PM
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I got banned within 2 minutes. I don't know why, I didn't break any of their rules. You've been censored. There are so many stories of being shadowbanned from the Feminism subreddit that they even have a rule about it in the sidebar that you can't make shitposts complaining of bans. It's that common. The Feminism subreddit is like Intersectional Feminism itself. It's a big hugbox of exclusive members, who have planted ideas and people in the top places in our society. Media, Business, Government…
/r/MensRights28/02/16 08:22 PM
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Sounds to me like this lady just wanted to be able to make a Jewish man uncomfortable for several hours in the air, and is cranky that she had to be a considerate human being instead.
/r/MensRights28/02/16 08:03 PM
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She was given a better seat, and she still bitched? Well... I guess perhaps she's fighting against preferential treatment?
/r/MensRights28/02/16 07:50 PM
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Don't be surprised if your petition is suppressed and your voice silenced. As a male, your voice means very little in Parliament.
/r/MensRights28/02/16 06:59 PM
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The answer to most of this consumer-product "image presentation" garbage can be solved with one word. PARENTING.
/r/MensRights28/02/16 05:57 PM
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Show me an Extremist Feminist or a Mangina that isn't sucking Western Society into a cesspool of man-hating and subjugation, and I'll retract my statement. I say what I observe.
/r/MensRights28/02/16 05:46 PM
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The hazard of being a father when the media is building a Radical Feminist culture. Manginas and Extremist Feminists have no scruples and are fundamentally incapable of assuming good faith.
/r/MensRights28/02/16 03:58 PM
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A classic argument for religion and Russell's Teapot. Absence of proof is reasonable doubt. Reasonable doubt tells me that while the statistic has the possibility of being proven, it does not have the plausibility of so.
/r/MensRights27/02/16 06:09 PM
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There is no link. There are no stats. You cannot count up "unreported rapes" because if they had a tally of them, they wouldn't be unreported any more. (And yes, the 97% statistic includes rapists who are never accused) Therefore, saying "X% of rapes are unreported" is like saying "X% of dogs are invisible". When dealing with a social justice warrior, your best bet is just to be condescendingly polite. "Anything you say. I'm proud of you for coming up with that all on your own!" She'll have a ne…
/r/MensRights27/02/16 09:35 AM
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Pro-Tip: When you fail to make a valid argument when sober, it is generally not wise to try again after getting drunk. Derp.
/r/MensRights27/02/16 09:28 AM
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Disprove it easily. Ask the claimant to cite their sources. When they reveal they don't fucking have any, the argument will eventually go away.
/r/MensRights27/02/16 09:25 AM
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I am also making fun of you because you seem like a pedantic twit who doesn't comprehend when he is being made fun of. Yes, because the adult reaction to being made fun of is totally not "ignore it because adult". you think it is impossible for someone to make fun of you. I think it's impossible for you to make fun of me. I generally don't feel intimidated by the bullying of circus apes. And that's not a complement. Complement (noun): The usual quantity or number needed/used. Ohhh, you mean "com…
/r/MensRights27/02/16 09:19 AM
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Might be more accurate to say that there is so much else to do.
/r/MensRights27/02/16 06:48 AM
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I was heavily bullied as a young lad. My entire school life was plagued by beatings and torment. When I was in the ninth grade, I was offered a ride home by a 10th grade student. Fairly nice girl, I thought. Once I got into the car, her two friends jumped in. Once driving, she announced she her girls planned to go to Toronto (about 90 km from my home) and take me with them. Sent me into a panic. For all I know, I could have been dumped out of the car by these girls and left stranded in a city I …
/r/MensRights27/02/16 04:03 AM
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I cringed.
/r/MensRights27/02/16 03:57 AM
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You cannot apply a geometric paradox to a philosophy. You're grasping at straws, dude.
/r/MensRights27/02/16 02:06 AM
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He'll be told it's because of toxic masculinity that he was beat up, and that he should favour feminist theory - not for his sake - but because it was just a taste of women's suffering. Radical theory is bleeding into our schools and the hustle is getting more clever each year.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 11:14 PM
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I was suspended in the fifth grade, and again in the sixth grade, both for defending myself against someone who was assaulting me. Both times I had visible bruises. In the sixth grade, I had been bloodied, with a black eye because the student attacked me while I was in my seat (desks in that classroom had the chairs attached to the desks, so I was quite trapped and unable to move away). The school refused to expunge my record after my parents threw a fit. The school said that because I raised my…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 11:11 PM
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I can't speak to that. I am not aware of such a story.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 10:14 PM
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Remember that half of a situation is the recipient's response. I think the man showed clear social grace and (dare I say) moral superiority in letting it slide. People are not going to be awesome to one another. We never have been. But we're also not defined by that one thing we did that one time. It's very probably that the girl was actually a nice girl, but gets stupid on booze, or got a funny idea into her head that landed much more softly into a puddle of beerthink.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 09:57 PM
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Men can be sensitive creatures. Last year I made a joke in an interview in response to the question, “What can we do to end male violence?”, a campaign I have been involved with since 1979. I replied, jokingly, that if men could not learn to behave themselves, it might be a good idea to put them into an enclosed space, modelled a bit like a holiday camp, with a choice of quad bikes, white vans or bicycles. Female partners, mothers and friends could visit, and take them out like a library book, r…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 07:34 PM
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Pat Robertson has a legacy of quotes illustrating that he essentially sees women as property of men. I fully disagree with this mindset. There are awful people that have done some good in the world. To invoke Godwin's Law, the Nazis created many policies that other very Non-Nazi countries and organizations used today, including, but not limited to - animal conservation, ban on animal testing, and anti-tobacco campaigns. They advanced cinematography and medicine. Adidas, Puma, and Hugo Boss were …
/r/MensRights26/02/16 07:24 PM
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Anyone who reads that as the actions are justified or acceptable... well, I can't help you. That's a shame, since you said it. It's a double-shame, since I've tried to help you see how horribly you've chosen your words. Not only are you defending your position badly, but you haven't even recanted the choice of "accepted". had I done something dumb like that, I would have at least said, "I chose the phrase should be accepted hastily, without appreciating its implications" in some kind of attempt …
/r/MensRights26/02/16 06:51 PM
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Nail on the head. Unless I'm on your social media I'm probably never going to know I knocked your elbow aside against your favour unless you say something. Feminists, women, transgenders, and tumblrboys; Men know how to use the phrase "I am sorry". Just tell us what's up without the frantic emotionalism, and we will fix it.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 06:43 PM
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Underinformed, possibly, but can you show an example of oppressive ideology?
/r/MensRights26/02/16 06:21 PM
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The US has massively unpopulated space. Did you just think it was Canada? So I had to do the legwork again, mathematically calculating the population density based on population and city boundaries for the 10 most populous cities in Canada, against the ten biggest US cities. As an example, New York is unquestionably the most dense city in America. It has over 8 million residents on just 300 square miles of land. It works out to about 22 000 people per sq mi. By constrast, Toronto is Canada's lar…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 06:13 PM
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Are we sure this didn't come from an Onion article? EquiPay is brain child of Luna Malbroux, diversity educator and comedian You are charged a surcharge fee if you use the app without diverse friends Equipay uses Bureau of Labor Statistics and math to calculate how much is owed from each person and there is an option to 'protest', but it will only give you statistics about the wage gap. So, a racist, sexist app that draws conclusions about race and gender from labor stats without accounting for …
/r/MensRights26/02/16 05:54 PM
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I don't think I can agree with this. Poorer countries make lots of babies because there's just not very much to do. That's why the Amish have, like, 20 kids each.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 05:48 PM
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Population density. People per square mile. You know one of the largest predictors of crime? Those stats are for living centers, not entire nations. Canada has a massively unpopulated space, and most of our cities are located close to the U.S. Border. So, unless you can prove relevance... Secondly, you are comparing the numbers of murders directly, not the murder rate. You have 1/25th of the murders, but the murder rate is about 1/3rd I'm glad you noticed. I don't like having to do all the legwo…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 05:45 PM
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Jerry Fallwell said that feminism causes natural disasters like hurricanes and earthquakes. If you're cherry picking from crazy then you're not winning me over. For this article to be effective I would have to identify with any of the examples of antifeminism within the article itself. The people who do believe what Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell say will not be swayed by this article, unless it is 2000 years old and was found in a desert somewhere. This is a logical fallacy called "poisoning t…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 05:03 PM
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Unlikely. Weaker market countries produce people, and immigration kind of balances the population scales in more bourgeoisie nations who only produce 1.8 children per family.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 04:48 PM
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And they heavily slant male, as feminists are more than happy to point-out. Irrelevant. You're still operating on the assumption that all feminists think the same way. I literally cannot think of a group of people who all completely agree together on a single topic like that. Even just taking the US into account, as many as 40 million people identify Feminist. And you want to tell me that all 40 million, from Radical to Sex-Positive Feminists, all think that Republicans are either misogynist mal…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 04:44 PM
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Not even that. Just don't let something like that bother you. People are letting the smallest things get to them and it's making the whole of society bitchy and useless to one another. "Can I have a double mocha latte?" "No. The way you looked me over is a microaggression and I don't serve sexist misogynist pigs."
/r/MensRights26/02/16 04:23 PM
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Well if it isn't sexism or oppression that makes men do the dangerous jobs, then there is no solution to the gender divide, because the gender divide is based on the free, willful acquisition of employment. Women are statistically less capable in combat (military, police, firefighting). We can at least imply this, based on the noticeably lower standard for women to enter these public services. Women need to meet the same entry standard as men in these professions. Lower standards in these fields…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 04:21 PM
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I'm sorry, but I think you're mistaking wishful thinking with legality. DJ is legally unable to consent on his own. His parents did not provide permission for this woman to conduct herself in the way she did. She performed a sexual act on a person whose consent is not legally recognized. It's no different than having sex with a 10 year-old.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 04:14 PM
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I highly doubt it was a shove. Women are known for being melodramatic (especially the ones needy enough to post about it on social media), so it was probably an accident, and since she decided to quietly post her grievance on Facebook instead of just talking to the guy, he probably never found out that he'd committed any kind of transgression. People are just not willing to discuss things as people any more. It either needs to be protested and exposed as vile and awful, or it needs to be impuned…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 04:12 PM
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A bit more than 1/10th of the population, and about 1/25th of the murder rate. You sound like a father who is impossible to please.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 04:07 PM
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An unborn child is not legally protected. It can be killed at any time, quite legally. I'm talking about the mother, dude. You asked if I thought killing a child was justified to get out of fatherhood. I'm simply pointing out that it's legally justified to get out of motherhood... and one of the arguments is... women will just do it anyway. People still do it. It's still illegal to kill a baby (and I don't mean abort a fetus I mean kill a baby, so don't bother with the semantics). I have to ask …
/r/MensRights26/02/16 04:05 PM
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Birth rates fluctuate. We currently number over 7 Billion. I don't think a lax in births is a sign of Capitalism failure.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 05:44 AM
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If I was a shapeshifter, I would appear female just long enough to post one of those "I don't need Feminism because" signs, with the text getting smaller and smaller on the sign (because I think that might get the point across).
/r/MensRights26/02/16 05:39 AM
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This is how helpless women are today. She needed to go onto social media to ask everyone else what to do about something she could have just ignored entirely. I guess she needed the most Sarkeesian option.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 05:30 AM
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Oof, right off the bat compare me to Pat Robertson a well-known dick. Poisoning the well. While you may not approve of him as a person, the words quoted ring true with many. This is really more a knock at the guys 200 years ago that did oppose feminism. 100 years ago, feminists weren't anywhere near as picky, and focused on things like voting rights and pay equality, instead of Twitter censorship. I'm not even sure what Feminism was doing 200 years ago. So all men aren't bad, but they are sexist…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 05:28 AM
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That could have turned out a lot worse than it did. It's a shame you couldn't hold onto that girl.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 05:15 AM
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"Republican" isn't a type of man, it's a type of voter. "Cat-caller" isn't a type of man, it's a type of harasser. A "dudebro" is a hypermasculine male. I'm fairly indifferent to gender roles or stereotypes, but dudebros annoy even me because they're the bimbo of the male gender. "Rape apologist" is also not exclusively male, nor is it even a real thing. "Rape culture" is a myth pushed by the irrational likes of Anita Sarkeesian. Rational feminists don't believe this. I think feminism is not lim…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 05:12 AM
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Well, you are right that I don't spend hours and hours combing-through the feminist ocean to find the few precious little fish who swim against the tide. Like I said, I did one quick Google search, using the term "Not real feminists" and those links were on the first page of results. It took me 45 seconds of searching and about 20 minutes of reading to have information to offer you. I generalize, sure, but if we're not allowed to generalize then we can't talk about very many things at all. There…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 04:31 AM
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Stats imply that domestic violence is about as likely to occur regardless of which gender is the aggressor. Men are less likely to report it than women, and men are less likely to require hospitalization after an instance of violence. Women are more likely to be sexually assaulted or raped during a domestic violence incident, whereas Men are more likely to be physically wounded without retaliating.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 04:08 AM
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His parents have permission to consent for him. Therefore, someone else bathing and feeding him is fine as long as his parents are okay with it. And they evidently told her "Stay away from him" after they found out about the creepy love affair she had with him. Actually, seems that she was explicitly given a no by the only source of consent for DJ. Therefore, unquestionably rape.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 04:04 AM
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Actually, they do. A lot. And the response from MRAs is "Oh, the whole No True Scotsman, eh?" which is slippery-slopish. Just doing a quick Google search of "Not real feminists" landed me pages of results to feminist blogs, online news sites and aggregates, and even a Tumblr related to feminists standing against extremist/radical feminism. This blog addresses 5 common reasons people disapprove of Feminism, including in-depth attempts to illustrate their position. It's a long read, and isn't perf…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 04:01 AM
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When you ask these men's rights activists if domestic violence from women to men is so bad, why don't they escape to their refugees camps, they say 'it's much harder for men, the stigma, the stigma etc'. When a man walks into a hospital with a bloody face, no one asks "Who did this to you?" they just as "What happened?" and will take whatever bullshit answer the man gives. Men do face a stigma of criticism, and a questioning of their integrity to turn in their spouse for abuse. Worst of all, a w…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 03:40 AM
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If someone cannot consent, they did not consent. Sex without consent is rape.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 03:33 AM
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I wouldn't call that equality. Would you? If you want to be as petty as feminists about equality, then sure. It's not equal at all. But if you're smart, you'll look at the bigger picture. Individual systems of society cannot all be equal. A few, maybe. But favour and preference for one gender/sex or another will always exist, ranging from predominance in job markets, media presence, political lobbying, to practices of family law and personal lifestyles. These are not due to gender discrimination…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 03:17 AM
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You'll notice: when the radical feminists criticize the moderate feminists, the moderates do not call the radicals anti-feminists or charge that they are less-feminist for their criticisms. Anti-feminists are a separate group of people. They do decry radicals for poisoning the well, and there's really little else one can do in response. You don't need a membership card to call yourself Feminist, so there's no way to stop a nutjob from calling herself Feminist and crushing the reputation of actua…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 03:04 AM
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Canada had 505 murders in 2013, in a population of 35 million. Compare that to the United States, whose population of 325 million saw over 12,000 murders (more than twice the rate).
/r/MensRights26/02/16 02:16 AM
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Would it matter if she did? Yes, it would matter. Unless you can find statistics of women have used the Safe Haven despite also having a custodial father, I contend that you're presenting a logical fallacy. Also they don't ask do they? That wouldn't make it legal. He doesn't have the option to not inform her. Does he? Seeing as fathers much less frequently want to be the father when the mother doesn't want a baby, it's hard to say. It would require a bizarre series of failures on the parts of th…
/r/MensRights26/02/16 01:11 AM
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You're missing what I said. Women don't want to be in these dangerous jobs. Otherwise they'd be fighting for the right to make a hundred grand on an oil platform. They'd be insisting on more female sewage treatment plant engineers, more female open cast miners. They do not want to be those. And in an incentive-driven capitalist economy, you have to want to do something in order to even bother trying. If women don't want into these markets, then they are going to be staffed mainly by men because …
/r/MensRights26/02/16 01:02 AM
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That isn't what I said. I said that it was better to protect the child than prosecute the mother. Presumably women going to Safe Haven shelters to abandon their child does not have the father in the picture. And presumably, a father does have the right to use the Safe Haven shelter, provided the mother isn't in the picture.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 12:58 AM
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It was a comparatively small wound considering the rest of my life story, and I think the stress of the constant phone messages my uncle left, the beratement, kind of had something to do with her handling of the situation. Things have flip-flopped. I love my mother to buttons - and I don't talk to my dad anymore.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 12:39 AM
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More and more women who disavow this brand of privilege hoarding are speaking up, thankfully. We really only need to head off the sneakiest of them who work near the top and think they can shift the balance of power. We will never get to the point where men are all enslaved. Anarchy would erupt long before then.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 12:31 AM
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Fight past it how? We can't force women into doing the dangerous jobs if they don't want to, and someone's got to do them. They offer insane amounts of money (fishers and miners make a good salary) for the risk, and that apparently draws men in. It isn't that it's our fault, but we are apparently statistically more willing to do it for the money.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 12:26 AM
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You can have socialized health care without becoming a Socialist nation.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 12:10 AM
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As a Canadian, I am well aware of Socialized Healthcare. It's paid for through tax dollars (which are the product of a capitalist system). I'm also familiar with Social Assistance in Canada, having done a lot of research, and having been on the system myself. Welfare is meant to allow people time to find new jobs. It's not a replacement for income, and it offers very l-i-t-t-l-e m-o-n-e-y (I hope a Square fan like you gets the joke). Canada is not Socialist. It is a Parliamentary Democracy, and …
/r/MensRights26/02/16 12:09 AM
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I don't see any deleted posts.
/r/MensRights26/02/16 12:02 AM
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I contend you don't have the authority to nag anyone here into posting things you can't be bothered to find and post. Like this post from today? Or what about this one? I find it disingenuous to moan about what other people aren't doing when you're not doing it either. But I am doing it, with time spent actually reading and writing, with a dash of humour (depending on the audience).
/r/MensRights26/02/16 12:00 AM
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No! How did you even reach that conclusion??
/r/MensRights25/02/16 11:56 PM
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You're apparently not clear on how analogies work. I know how they work. He chose a poor one, and argued it just as badly. He is making a valid and accurate argument. Your link karma is: TurbulentThinking / 10 link karma / 953 comment karma Ever think about how long I've been posting links for? I added my first MensRights post this week (I think). And today, I posted an article where a Feminist dismantled Feminist propaganda. Of course, I wouldn't expect you to go any deeper than "Oh, 10 link ka…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 11:56 PM
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I can't think of a single time in our history that socialism has ever worked. All instances of socialism in practice now are dismal fascist dictatorships, and all the past instances ended in the dissolution of an empire. And I may not have a lot of wealth, but a wise man can hear profit in the wind. Rule of Acquisition #22.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 11:51 PM
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That is where the idea of equality loses its way. The system overall needs to be equal, but the individual systems that make up the grander "Overall System" of society will be imbalanced. There will be lots of men in this field and lots of ladies in that one. Men will work harder and do tougher work here, and women will dominate in ambition elsewhere. Unfortunately, everyone thinks that to be equal, every facet of society individually needs to be 50/50. Eventually, they'll figure out what can an…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 11:48 PM
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...uh, I don't know how to tell you this, but your math is really not working. 43% were from the UK. 36% were from Central and Eastern Europe. Romania is part of Eastern Europe. That 18% figure is an elaboration on the 36% statistic (inferring that about half of European-origin homeless in London are Romanian). The total is actually 79%, leaving 21% undescribed.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 11:45 PM
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The current legal atmosphere is... yes. In almost every civilized country, this is legal. Abortion, which is what I assume you're referring to, is legal. Very true. But we're not talking about legal abortion. We're talking about extinguishing someone's life once the law fully protects their lives. You're implying that because the law says abortion is legal (in some places), that murdering a pregnant woman is also legal. I am going to guess that such a thing is not what you mean. I just want to m…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 11:40 PM
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Again, I can't fathom your view on this because the incidence of murder is so low in my country. I've got a better shot at the lottery than the morgue. I don't lock my doors when I'm home. I lock them when I leave. You live in a terrifying place, sir.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 11:32 PM
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Putting more people in jail seems like a bad thing. Putting the appropriate people in jail would be valid. By nature, that amount should be about equal, discounting fugitives and obvious coincidental variations.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 11:28 PM
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You're an authoritarian nut so I guess you're a feminist yourself then? Because I do not actively advocate for women's rights, I cannot refer to myself as feminists. As I philosophically believe in the equality of all people, regardless of gender, race, or creed, I am an egalitarian. Authoritarian nut is a charge I cannot confirm or deny, as I've never been placed in a power of definite power. If dictionary defines feminism does it define marriage too? "one man and one woman"? Oh wait let me gue…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 11:24 PM
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Edits were to add information, not delete it.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 11:05 PM
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Who says? You? Are you the king of defining feminism? Seems like you're the one pushing a "by definition:" argument here. Sorry, but I got my definition from Oxford English Dictionary, the True King of Defining Feminism. So I can totally push a "by definition" argument because I actually know what the definition is. If they don't call themselves a feminist. So the only thing that makes someone a feminist is saying "I'm a feminist"? Do you realize how silly that sounds? [O]f the two of us you're …
/r/MensRights25/02/16 10:41 PM
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The reasons are not misandric or sexist, however. It's actually surprisingly the fact that women are coddled so much after failure that is sexist. We shouldn't be coddling more people, we should be coddling fewer.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 10:35 PM
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I lock my doors because anyone who would enter my house when I'm sleeping can very well mean to do me harm. I'm not worried about being robbed when I'm home. I'm worried about being attacked and killed (my family as well). So you think there's someone out there who wants to break into your house so they can kill you and your family. That sounds like paranoia bred from irrational fears and reversed motivations. I'd be more worried about someone wanting to kill me in public (only 12% of violent cr…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 10:33 PM
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That's for the sake of a child's life. It's better to care for an unwanted child than prosecute for its murder.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 10:19 PM
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Feminist puppets on MensRights... more interested in being well-received? My brain isn't equipped for this level of illogic.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 10:17 PM
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You're making a fallacious argument. /u/mochacola wants to know if anyone here finds it okay to kill a baby to avoid fatherhood. You are not answering the question. You're providing history on baby murders. Which are crimes - which seems to indicate that at least the authorities view this kinda thing as wrong. Do you support killing a mother and child to get out of fatherhood?
/r/MensRights25/02/16 10:14 PM
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I don't agree with that. Men's Rights and Feminist groups have as many bad apples as many religious groups.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 10:09 PM
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If you truly expect people to behave better than this, you are free to leave your doors unlocked while you sleep. I however, expect this of humanity, and will lock my doors. Still out walking the Straw Man, I see. You don't lock your doors because you expect to be robbed. You lock your doors because you don't trust people, not because you expect to be robbed. Most people expect never to be robbed - but they lock their doors anyway, just in case. As you can see, nothing like what this guy did. Th…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 10:08 PM
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I was given up on much earlier. At the age of 10, it came out that my uncle was a drug addict who had basically stolen tens of thousands of dollars from family, lost his home and marriage (and kids) over his fortuitous habit. He harassed my mother by phone message, accused my father of destroying his family, and more. My mother was so distraught, that when she realized that I was a lot like Uncle Scott when he was a kid, she nearly shut down on me entirely. My father had to explain everything to…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 09:57 PM
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Except that over the ages men have done it willingly. Women never coerced men into building great towers to the gods. They didn't pressure men into inventing machines. They didn't goad men into waging war (mostly). And they didn't insist men drag themselves through dangerous mines. Other men did that. Men commissioned the buildings, designed the machines, turned the gears of war, and paid the miners to risk their lives. Your objection to my argument is based on an unfortunate fallacy; we made ou…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 09:48 PM
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its simply pointing out that women are every bit as evil as feminists claim men are. And... that advances the discussion of rights... how exactly? i feel like the MRM needs to split off from anti feminisim at this point, and a seperate anti feminist group needs to start. First of all, it has. Second, why? Is Anti-feminism not extreme enough?
/r/MensRights25/02/16 09:45 PM
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Do you mean "why don't they?" or are you asking me if there's a reason why they can't? I'm asking why you've appointed yourself the King of Defining Feminism. Feminism is the advocacy of women's rights. Anything not done as an advocacy of women's rights is not a Feminist action. Therefore, women who are altruistic and also believe in advancing women's rights are by definition Feminist. Obviously they could and those who stop being feminists, have done that. Just to entertain this weird line of r…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 09:43 PM
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Egalitarians and Men's Rights Advocates argue that they are distinct from misogynists. Why can't feminists dissociate themselves with shitty parts of their community? I applaud whenever a feminist spots the bullshit in feminist media.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 09:25 PM
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You set your expectations based on what you can reasonably expect of people. Wow. "Don't set people on fire" is too much to ask? I almost want to ask you what country you're posting from so that I never ever go there for fear of my own life. No one excused it. [Y]ou seem to be having trouble understanding this. People expect this when women are desperate, because desperate people sometimes do awful things. It is the very heart of the argument for abortion. Desperate people sometimes to awful thi…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 09:23 PM
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Disposable Men has been a truth of society for thousands of years. Men are soldiers, peacemakers, and work in the deadliest jobs on Earth (from fishing and mining, to experimental science and engineering). Throwing away a man who has outlived his usefulness is hardly a gender issue. We've been doing it to ourselves since the beginning - either because we get a rush out of it, we need it for the money, or it makes the chicks go wild. I would be concerned about an ultra-inclusive society where eve…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 09:12 PM
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Alternatively, when you read the article, the location of the 14% statistic actually rolls through 5 or 6 somewhat random stats about the homeless. No one is under the illusion that the majority of homeless are not male. I don't see any evidence in this article of men being marginalized. And that's after considering its source: The Guardian, of all places. From the article: In London, 43% of people sleeping rough are from the UK, 36% are from central and eastern Europe, with 18% of the total fro…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 09:08 PM
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You can expect it, but you'll be disappointed. I don't make my expectations based on what others end up doing. They do that in schools. Education system has an expectation of kids to be a certain smartness, so when the kids fail, they lower the standard so that more kids pass. That's retarded logic. However, the argument is, and has been, that women will stoop to these acts out of desperation if abortion is illegal. I don't buy that as an excuse any more than your assertion that men are just bei…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 09:03 PM
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This article just appeared today on the Feminism subreddit. I thought it was the WEIRDEST thing to find there, since it trashed their champion Jessica Valenti.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 08:52 PM
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If the homeless only gave that much of a shit. "Is hungry a gender? I'm that one. Got any change?"
/r/MensRights25/02/16 07:57 PM
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Ugh. "Man up". The phrase that draws the most ire from my soul. I almost want to reply to a woman who says that with "Fine; go make me a sandwich." Just so she knows which weapon she's fighting with.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 07:38 PM
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Get ready to be run out of the program. Talking about men as anything other than oppressive shitlords who take the odd break between fits of rampant misogyny and rape to play woman-hating video games and groom our neckbeards will earn you a burning cross on your front lawn.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 07:35 PM
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The fact is that you are a poster and can post links. Therefore you complaining you don't see enough links while not posting positive ones yourself shows you aren't really concerned about the issue. I can, and do. You're making another fallacious argument. I also make every effort not to be "that guy" that spits venom and hate without doing as much research to verify the information that draws the anger out in my responses. So I'm curious where you are getting your assertions from. I then used y…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 07:23 PM
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I was momentarily in disbelief at this reply, trying to figure out how to respond to it. But this is probably the most confusing case of Straw Man Argument that I've had presented to me. If [you] think there is an issue[,] then you must also be willing to correct the issue. You have the power to do so, so do so. No one argued against that. I argued that it's a pretty big "who gives a shit" response when someone replies with nothing but "so go do something about it". If people would say that to t…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 07:07 PM
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I don't think they failed to mention it, so much as they didn't need to mention it. Anyone who can subtract 14 from 100 would be able to tell you what percentage of homeless are men.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 07:00 PM
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Certainly mortifying. I have to ask though; what rights issue is this raising/addressing?
/r/MensRights25/02/16 06:33 PM
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Delegating is done by those in authority. I contend that you don't possess the needed authority to delegate anything to anyone. I also find it disingenuous to reply to a thread about a lack of positivity with "Go for it". It's one step away from "Cool story, bro".
/r/MensRights25/02/16 06:02 PM
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This article mentions sexual assault once. The butt of this joke is that famous people tend to make melodramatic, fake apologies on camera to appear endearing, without actually being apologetic.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 05:57 PM
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you cannot expect men to behave differently than women under the same stimuli. I can sure as hell expect that men and women uniformly stop fucking murdering and torturing each other, which was the point I was getting at. I don't care about men or women being more or less violent and prone to doing violent things. It doesn't take a lot of thinking to come to the conclusion that committing inarguably unspeakable acts of torture and violence is objectively wrong in every sense of the word. I might …
/r/MensRights25/02/16 04:22 PM
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Ah, cynicism at its finest.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 04:17 PM
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Again, you are misinterpreting what I've said. Possibility does not mean Certainty. I am not surprised by the possibility of anything. I am surprised consistently at the practice of barbarism. How did this man think that murdering someone would solve anything? Sorry, but I don't sympathize with his failure to be responsible, and I don't think that he was justified. A mother and unborn child are dead. I care more about murder victims than objectively guilty murderers. His actions are not justifie…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 04:05 PM
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Why does anyone attack anyone? Opportunism.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 04:00 PM
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You're misinterpreting what I've said. Honestly, I can't imagine why that would surprise you, unless you are very young. I'm 30, but I guess that answer is relative. The fact that both genders respond similarly should not surprise you. That isn't what surprises me. Once again, at the risk of becoming a broken record, it isn't that men and women can be compelled into similar responses that surprises me. It's the fact that people resort to premeditated acts of torture and murder that has me surpri…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 02:59 PM
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And I assume you find leaving your baby, alive, in the snow to die surprising as well. Extremely. However, the idea that both sexes respond similarly even to extremes should not surprise you at all. The fact that anyone regardless of gender (I'm not sure why my repetition of this has gone ignored so much) goes to the extreme of committing horrific acts of violence and torture, does in fact surprise me. And I'm quite dismayed that you can shrug at it and say "Funny thing, life is."
/r/MensRights25/02/16 02:46 PM
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What won't get you banned there? Opinions are the work of the Patriarchy, remember. YOU MUST FOLLOW FEMINIST DOCTRINE. ONE OF US. ONE OF US.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 02:42 PM
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Again, the day I don't find pouring petrol on someone and immolating them to be surprising, is the day I check the fuck out of humanity.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 02:32 PM
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I should certainly as fuck being surprising. You're not shocked by someone being lit on fire? I'm sorry, but the day I stop being startled by something so horrific, and stop being disgusted and saddened by a death that must have been utterly and inconceivably agonizing, is the day I am no longer a human being. If it was even remotely possible to relate to this man, I choose not to, because objectively speaking, regardless of who his victim was, this man is a complete and total monster and I will…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 02:30 PM
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At this rate, Iran will be Pakistani beachhouse property in a few years. "Let's solve crime by killing thousands of supposed criminals without a trial. Oh no! Pakistan is invading! Quick ladies! Arm yourselves! ...no, the gun goes this way..."
/r/MensRights25/02/16 02:26 PM
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Karen Straughan has to be one of the major powerhouse women in the egalitarian community. I luv that woman.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 02:21 PM
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There's a flaw in your "edit" logic. Go back, read it again, and think it through. I don't know how many different ways I need to explain for you to see this. There's a flaw in your logic as well. Implying that just because a reason is less likely, it is inherently flawed. You could "explain" yourself a million times and I will still disagree with you. Sorry, bud. I have the right to believe something that you don't. Cheers.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 01:56 PM
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It doesn't make misogynistic stuff worse though. No one said it does. Either way they're complaining about something that happens to everyone, and saying its unique to them. Again, you are correct, but perhaps missing the point. Anita Sarkeesian entirely doesn't give a shit about men, and men don't want her speaking out for their rights. It would be like Joseph Goebbels saying something supportive of the Jewish faith. It's not that the sentiment is faulty, but it doesn't feel even remotely since…
/r/MensRights25/02/16 01:18 PM
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So he is completely right that Anita faces death threats and misogynistic comments, but those comments are taken much more seriously than they ever deserve to be taken. No one takes into account how inflammatory her remarks are. She implies (and flat-out states) that everything about society is sexist, homophobic, misogynistic, racist, and it's entirely the fault of white males.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 01:10 PM
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Were it not for the fact that he dumped petrol on her and then burned her alive, I might have some compassion for his plight. This was not a spur-of-the-moment "he snapped" thing. He plotted with someone else, and brought all the things he'd need to the site.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 03:17 AM
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I do not agree with getting revenge, nor to stooping to someone else's level.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 03:13 AM
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Not in dispute, but that doesn't make either side right.
/r/MensRights25/02/16 03:12 AM
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Colluding with an accomplice, luring someone into a forest, beating her over the head, stabbing her, and then dousing her with petrol and lighting her up while she was still alive strikes me as something so sickening and brutal that no excuse could possibly soften the inhumane nature of this crime. This is not the consequence of forced fatherhood. This is the consequence of undiagnosed mental health issues and perversion (his accomplice just wanted to kill someone). A woman and an unborn baby ar…
/r/MensRights24/02/16 04:09 PM
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The author of the article looked like he was trying so hard not to sound feminist. I have to give him credit for that; when he got to the point where he says; Sarkeesian contends (not incorrectly) that women who speak up about sexism are subjected to misogynistic harassment on forums and social media sites. I had to hesitate and neutralize my viewpoint, and remember that such a statement is fairly factual, though the degree at which culture believes it occurs is overstated (however the author do…
/r/MensRights24/02/16 03:53 PM
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I've struggled with this question myself over the years. I don't make more than a woman (that's impossible at minimum wage). I'm not listened to more than a woman. I will not be considered for a job before a woman. If I am assaulted, I will be considered weak or pathetic for speaking up about it, by both men and women alike. If I need help in an abusive relationship, there is one men's shelter in my hometown, serving a city with a population of 700,000. Should I seek help from this shelter, the …
/r/MensRights24/02/16 03:31 PM
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That's the one.
/r/MensRights24/02/16 06:41 AM
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That is already a thing. The only religion whose extreme elements target men is Feminism. Untenable to give someone the right to make a decision for someone else. By your logic, if you drink my soda by mistake, I have the legal right to beat it out of you if I want it back. As for the "opt-out" thing... all I can say is "Are you expecting to need it? If so, try keeping your cock in your pants. The bitch isn't worth it." "Better programs" in what way? And ban piercings, which is another form of b…
/r/MensRights24/02/16 06:14 AM
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You can't be incorrect there unfortunately you have posited your argument in too vague a manner. Both women and men do strike first in instances reciprocated violence. The key is that men are more commonly the ones who strike first when it's an actual fight, where the attacked person fights back. In contrast, in over 70% of instances of non-reciprocated violence, women were the attackers (leaving only 30% of incidents accounted for by men as the aggressors). The abstract sadly doesn't quantify t…
/r/MensRights24/02/16 04:19 AM
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Fair enough. I didn't know who Lena Dunham was either until it was Facebook trending that she fingered her little sister.
/r/MensRights24/02/16 03:37 AM
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In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. That is the stat I was looking for. Thanks for the link!
/r/MensRights24/02/16 03:36 AM
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“It is ironic they feel they have been mutilated against their will in the USA, while in parts of the third world it is accepted practice to circumcise all males as HIV prevention,” he added. Instead of foreskin restoration, the physician recommended men seek psychiatric evaluation and care. Oh, now they care about third-world males. How convenient.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 11:55 PM
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It's telling the level of sheer narcissism this woman has, that her Twit-ter handle is @the_rewm. We're talking about someone who needs to prefix her name with a proper article. People who nominate themselves "The" anything is either fucking god of something, or someone whose ego is so bloated and fragile that a safe space is needed for the inevitable moment when they finally pop and leave their emotional breakdown all over fucking Twitter. EDIT: I know I didn't address the point at all, but I f…
/r/MensRights23/02/16 11:44 PM
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Celebrities circlejerking celebrities about how disadvantaged they are. I didn't know who Demi Lovato was before today, so yay brand recognition. It's almost Sarkeesian in its shamelessness.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 11:36 PM
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If anyone is interested here is the Article 4 she is referring to. For simplicity, here is the contents of Section 2, referring to Free Inhabitants: The better to secure and perpetuate mutual friendship and intercourse among the people of the different states in this union, the free inhabitants of each of these states, paupers, vagabonds and fugitives from justice excepted, shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of free citizens in the several states; and the people of each state sha…
/r/MensRights23/02/16 11:31 PM
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I did. Thanks.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 11:04 PM
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I figure most spousal violence is a two way street so it'd be in theory close to even... Studies apparently showed that non-reciprocal violence (assault where the victim doesn't fight back) is most commonly initiated by a woman, whereas reciprocal violence occurs when the man strikes first. I'll post the link to the study when I find it.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 11:03 PM
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Are there any stats for all reported spousal violence? Sadly, not everyone who is beaten or abused goes to the police themselves to report it.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 06:51 PM
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"Victim" barely means anything any more. Hell, women hate it when you call them victims. They're "survivors". So, honestly, I think victim fits. It just doesn't have enough belittling emphasis. In 2011, however, the little victim contacted him via Facebook with the intention of renewing their friendship. Banks videotaped their meeting, in which the little victim admitted to fabricating the charges and said that Banks never raped her. Perhaps we should just call her "The Little Victim".
/r/MensRights23/02/16 03:15 PM
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So... the British government is preferring to give pregnant women money to hire a midwife, instead of promoting the idea of going to the hospital? British ladies, if you get pregnant, go to the damn hospital to have it. My sister had a midwife and we're all lucky my niece is alive today, no thanks to that braindead weasel.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 03:10 PM
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You are describing privileges in society, as well as fundamentally unblockable traits of the human condition. The following are assumed privileges: making false accusations in family court physical violence The following are legal privileges (which are not equal to rights): keeping dads away taking half the money in a divorce (however, if he's smart and she cheats, a prenuptial will save him) labeling men rapists The following are just things people do that are shitty but in no way illegal, a ri…
/r/MensRights23/02/16 03:05 PM
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A privilege is something you can have. A right is something you must be allowed to have.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 02:53 PM
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I think you just revel in twisting my words. Please stop doing that. Rape court will not contribute to a 100% conviction rate. The conviction rate will increase, but at the expense of innocent men, not guilty ones. Murder is actually less stigmatic than rape, despite carrying a harsher sentence. A rapist may serve 10-15 years in prison, but the stigma will make life afterward basically impossible. Few people have any sympathy when a man labelled a rapist is unable to find work, unable to hold a …
/r/MensRights23/02/16 02:12 PM
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And since that is the only thing you focus on, that's the only thing we can focus on? Look, I'm not four years old. I can address multiple points about one topic. I guess we all just have to pick the single most important reason for doing or not doing something, and disregarding all other reasons as invalid or unimportant. Because no one's ever needed to rely on a back-up or two.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 12:23 PM
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You're incorrect. I've understood everything just fine so far, but you appear to grossly misunderstanding my remarks. Given how badly off the mark you are, I frankly don't even know where to start in trying to set the record straight. It's like you had an epileptic fit during a cocaine high while reading my comment and then drew your conclusion based on the fantasy that resulted.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 11:26 AM
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What I was getting at is this. Let's say, all claims are taken as truth, with no due process. I'm accused, and I'm innocent. Does that compel me to murder the woman accusing me even if i know I'll get jail time 100% despite I'm innocent? No, because I don't know her and even if I do, I'm not a psycho. I've already said this, and I can't understand why anyone would think I meant otherwise, but I am not supposing any innocent man kill someone to avoid a rape charge.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 04:42 AM
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Disagreement should come in the form of evidence and discourse, not meaningless double-talk about people's feelings. Men want to know if those guys in the truck were actually a threat to her, and there doesn't appear to be anything to imply they were. Considering how she closed herself off to any kind of criticism for her judgment of those men (a snap judgment, I might add), it seems she had no shortage of people fondling her ego and telling her she's wonderful. And may I congratulate you on you…
/r/MensRights23/02/16 04:35 AM
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Yeah, if someone tells me they feel intimidated, I listen and I believe them. No, you only listen and believe. Once you listen, you believe, and then you stop there. You don't validate information with fact, you don't corroborate to ensure that the correct action can be taken (if you got the wrong story, you can end up delivering the wrong form of justice). And frankly, if she can be intimidated by a wave of greeting, what can she not be intimidated by? Let me guess, a wave from a woman. Because…
/r/MensRights23/02/16 04:25 AM
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You are bizarre. It's so painfully obvious that you haven't been reading anything I've written, but at least we have an audience being entertained. Truly, you are well named, Turbulent! It was inspired by an attempt of suicide. If someone tells you that your friendly greeting makes them uncomfortable, you protest, and continue with the friendly greetings. No, I think I addressed that. Not only is greeting someone more than once fucking ridiculous, it's also not even close to what I said. I am no…
/r/MensRights23/02/16 04:13 AM
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You still have not expounded upon how this woman could be intimidated by a wave of greeting and a friendly "Hello". Would you care to? Perhaps I just can't hope to understand because I'm not a fragile flower that needs constant protection.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 04:01 AM
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You're a keen antagonist. Based on your responses, I'm getting the distinct impression that you're either a "Feminist Ally" (which is unlikely, as men rarely discuss empathy, even if they are an ally of Feminism) or a "Feminist-Plus" (the Feminist-Atheist Movement). Was this not you? /r/atheism do nothing but complain about religion. /r/mensrights do little but complain about feminism. Tis the way of the world. Was this also not you? There are plenty of "plus sized" male movie stars. No idea abo…
/r/MensRights23/02/16 03:58 AM
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Your arguments are highly indicative of revisionist logic, fallacy, and double-talk. Being constantly approached, as most any woman is in a western society, is just plain stressful. God, it must be a nightmare to have people always wanting to be nice to you. How do you ever do it? Their friendliness is causing her distress. I am so sad that friendliness is now highly distressing and traumatic. Think about what you're saying. Someone's friendliness - a personality trait sometimes defined as invit…
/r/MensRights23/02/16 03:50 AM
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I went to the core of the issue on my first comment. You questioned it, and I expounded upon my beliefs. In response to a woman's post about feeling intimidated when she's walking out at night. Oh, this might sting a little, but it seems I read the original post a little more dutifully than you did. You missed this part: Today I walked approximately one mile to the Eugene public library, it was beautiful and sunny until... First line of the Facebook post. But I guess when something is long, you …
/r/MensRights23/02/16 03:40 AM
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Hurray, a celebrity(ish) thinks that finding a picture on fucking Tumblr of little Bathroom symbols that fails to represent anything even close to realistic statistics means she can get riled up! Did you see how many "Unreported Rapist" Bathroom Dudes were there? How do you count "Unreported Rapes"? Picture that infographic, only where it says "Rapists" in pink, put "Men". Where it says "Reported", put "Visible". Where it says "Faced Trial", put "Tall". Where it says "Jailed", put "Successful". …
/r/MensRights23/02/16 03:34 AM
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TLDR (literally): Does not care what a scared woman thinks. Goes on the attack. How did I go on the attack? Oh, that's right. You don't know, because you didn't read the response. How silly of me. Unless you're a feminist, in which case, welcome to MensRights!
/r/MensRights23/02/16 03:25 AM
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We should tell them. ...once they've learned how to take criticism without needing a safe space.
/r/MensRights23/02/16 03:23 AM
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If someone feels harassed by your waving, do you honestly not care? Given that a friendly wave from a distance consumes a matter of a few seconds of someone's time, the interaction would be over before anyone had a chance to feel harassed, unless the person wants to feel harassed by everything. So, no. I don't. Do you consider that you are the 40th guy to wave at her that day, and that it is a constant in-her-face phenomenon? No, I really don't. I can't imagine a situation where a 3 second encou…
/r/MensRights23/02/16 03:15 AM
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Victim-creationism at its finest. This woman was stare-raped by some fellows who literally had no opportunity to do her any harm (out in public, on bikes and in trucks whilst en route to a PUBLIC LIBRARY). Being in public inherently revokes substantial rights to presumption of privacy. Individuals are literally permitted to take a photographs of you, so long as they do not capture anything you are not openly displaying (such as the contents of your purse, or underneath one's skirt). Therefore, l…
/r/MensRights23/02/16 01:21 AM
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If you're paying more than 50% of the child's support needs, it can be argued as unfair, but only if you can prove that your babymama is intentionally working a nothing job.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 05:31 PM
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The text was added to the image of the paper after the photo was taken.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 05:12 PM
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Photoshop. It's good, but it's fake.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 05:02 PM
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I'm an egalitarian; not a feminist or an MRA. I'm not swimming in either of those pools until someone's gone and cleaned up the scum.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 03:46 PM
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I would like to demonstrate an example of Feminism's revisionist philosophy, with exerpts of the definition of Misandry. When perusing my new favourite website "The Geek Feminism Wiki" (because I love absurd humour), I came upon the article for Misandry, and found it to be... well, quite a truncated entry. From the Geek Feminism Wiki Misandry is the hatred or dislike of men. It is the linguistic equivalent of Misogyny. In cultural sense, misogyny and misandry cannot be considered equivalent, bec…
/r/MensRights22/02/16 03:36 PM
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Being clever kind of goes against their rule of being melodramatic. Fixed. :D
/r/MensRights22/02/16 03:01 PM
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He's also apparently good at falling down a flight of stairs.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 02:48 PM
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They could at least be clever, especially since most people boorish enough to say a shitty sexist remark that actually deserves a response, are predictably good at making rational people suffer a nervous breakdown. So it's at least a little bit funny.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 02:32 PM
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Boy, you're excelling at putting words in my mouth. I get you; it's that I don't think you quite get me. I'm not advocating any kind of leniency for rapists, nor am I inferring that innocent men should murder women who accuse them of rape; that's all collectively the silliest and most distressing interpretations of my words I've heard yet. What we need is people not to get their assholes in a twist so badly that instead of seeking clarity they dive headfirst onto the Jump-To-Conclusions Mat.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 01:53 PM
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I was with you until your stupid "edit". Well, this is a sure-fire way to get my most positive and eager responses. Are you suggesting we let rapists have easier time in court, with possibility of letting them go unpunished, so they won't murder their victims? No. If you believe anybody would hold this point of view, there is little I can do to help you. All I suggested was that if courts exclusive for rape (complete with all the abolition of due process) were brought into practice, that the sum…
/r/MensRights22/02/16 01:09 PM
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Are you actually suggesting that husbands and date partners would be more likely to murder women they’ve had sex with on the off-chance that they might later be accused of raping them without consent? No. It's a shame that this is the conclusion you have drawn, but by not it is entirely not surprising. Your remarks have grown aggressive, and I hope you're okay stopping here. I come for discussion, not insult.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 12:57 PM
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I was going to reply to this with something scathing and serious about how little you seemed to have read this comment thread or understood the context of the remarks, but my brain is fundamentally burned out from trying to navigate some of the most insane things I've ever seen come up on my screen from this website. Today has not been a proud day for men's rights.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 12:39 PM
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But my point is you are conflating what I consider to be two very different categories of rape - the violent stranger-rape attack and the category of rape loosely called ‘date rape’ but in any case where the alleged rapist is already known to the complainant. Because no one's ever been killed by someone they know, right? C'mon, you're eschewing basic pieces of information that I didn't think I'd have to point you directly to. The rest of your remarks are no more valid than mine. So I will chalk …
/r/MensRights22/02/16 12:17 PM
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Then, with respect, you’ve missed the point of the article. Really? Because I have no clue what you think the article is about. I read it, and it appears to be about feminists lobbying to create a separate court system to handle rape cases, in such a way as to get rid of due process and the prospect of a fair trial, so that accusers (aka "victims") can circumvent many legal protections afforded the accused (aka "the rapist") in a typical criminal court. This is irrepresentative of whether the vi…
/r/MensRights22/02/16 10:52 AM
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I'm not referring to Ghomeshi. I'm referring to people who actually have committed the crime. Anyone maniacal enough to actually rape would be deranged enough to believe that killing their victim (stranger or not) is the lesser crime to be caught for.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 09:16 AM
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Yes. As a citizen myself, I can say unequivocably that after the election of Justin Trudeau, that nobody is running the country.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 05:07 AM
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Dear Canadian Feminists, You are not lawmakers. You cannot revoke the rights of the innocent to a fair trial and due process simply to be more swift and cruel to the guilty. EDIT: All this will do is increase the number of rape-murders, since rapists will choose to kill their victims to ensure they don't go to rape court.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 04:06 AM
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"I don't think that sounds as funny as you want it to sound." Preemptively destroys "but everyone thinks this is funny". Response: "That's the closest to 'listening' you've ever come! Don't tell other feminists you're doing that." "Why do you think it's okay to say something like that?" Preemptively quashes "I was only joking". Response: "Where else would I learn to say anything I wanted without fear of reprisal? Yay feminism!" "We're done." End the line of discussion. May cause conversation par…
/r/MensRights22/02/16 03:25 AM
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Here is my list of demands. Feminists, or indeed, the broader entity of Feminism itself, doesn't need to perform any action or revoke any rights of women. What I call for is that: they commit to peaceful resolution of dispute; they stop claiming to be fighting for all equality (not only does feminism claim to fight the good fight for men and women, I have never once seen one feminist protest for men's rights issues - issues which are not a secret - and we're all quite capable of fighting our bat…
/r/MensRights22/02/16 03:10 AM
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Don't jokes have punchlines? This reads more like a gruesome threat.
/r/MensRights22/02/16 12:00 AM
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In the same manner that someone who is not feminist does not necessarily eschew women's rights, those who disagree with this post are not necessarily feminist trolls. Overassociation is a fallacious manner in which to dissuade critics.
/r/MensRights21/02/16 09:59 PM
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Please define "go thermonuclear". Also, you haven't disagreed with me yet. You've only implied that I'm stalking you.
/r/MensRights21/02/16 09:42 PM
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Except that they'll get uptight about a reference to a "hood" because it's a component to female genitalia and therefore sexist. Because feminists are also paradoxically sex-positive and also frighteningly prudish at the same time. And they'll look for anything to get upset about. Gotta keep those safe spaces relevant, after all.
/r/MensRights21/02/16 09:24 PM
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Everyone who visits this subreddit can see when you post here, because that's how Reddit works. You might be interested to know that I post and reply to others' threads as well. I don't own a beeper, because it's 2016. I recognized this as not only a cross-post but one transcribed from elsewhere entirely. Therefore, the criticism of the article is not on you, but on the original author (which I stated). So I'm confused why you're taking it personally. I can only assume that you didn't enjoy a pr…
/r/MensRights21/02/16 09:13 PM
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European immigration dried up decades ago and was replaced by a Third World stream from places where the average is about 80 points. European immigration dried up when they realized they had better prospects if they stayed in Europe, in contrast to the Middle East, who definitively had more freedoms if they left for America (even if they still face discrimination). While this certainly can explain a marked drop in the average IQ of the population, it is not what it impacting the individual progr…
/r/MensRights21/02/16 09:02 PM
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This article seems to extend from the extreme end of the political spectrum, implying that empowered women are dismantling society. In reality, it is entitled feminists (male and female alike) doing the damage. The assertion posited by the author that the IQ drop in the United States is linked to feminism and not other cultural factors like the rise in television and video media and the decline in popularity for printed media, the regular slash in educational funding, and the failure of the educ…
/r/MensRights21/02/16 08:40 PM
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Truth requires judgment. You're thinking of fact. Someone can tell you the truth and yet still provide you with faulty information.
/r/MensRights21/02/16 06:46 PM
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What frightful material did this woman read before writing her article? I've seen a small handful of men make some misogynistic claims over my 30 years on this planet, in the name of "Men's Rights", and they fell out of the mouths of the most stereotypical-looking assholes you can imagine. Basically, they all looked like that moustachio'd cunt who appeared on Dr. Phil. And those instances have been so few and far between that I have no evidence to support any kind of concerted effort to dismantl…
/r/MensRights21/02/16 06:33 PM
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Believing in equality of the sexes makes you an Egalitarian. Acting to elevate women's rights makes you a feminist (whether you believe the sexes are equal or not). You'll find most men are Egalitarian. According to a recent poll in the U.S., about 9% of men are Feminist. If what I've seen is correct, there's not much overlap.
/r/MensRights21/02/16 05:52 PM
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“If the Feminist Library is evicted from its current premises, Southwark Council will not only be guilty of cultural vandalism but also of silencing women.” Finally, some peace and f*king quiet.
/r/MensRights20/02/16 01:58 AM
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Sounds like what I'm doing. edit: was doing. At this point I'm sharing philosophy, now that I've already repeated myself once or twice. So I think I'm all done.
/r/MensRights20/02/16 01:43 AM
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I have realistic discussions.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 10:31 PM
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Again, anything that results from you having sex is your responsibility. And you can't be abusing the abortion clinics to get out of it. Abortions are supposed to be a last-chance measure, not an "OMG this is sooo gunna ruin my weekend" measure. And the fact that you default to killing or abandonning a baby, I will place you in the same irrational group I file feminists and Christians into. Have a nice day.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 07:49 PM
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I said the state should finance it. Screw you. Well, the law says differently. But I guess you don't hate women more than you hate anyone else, since you want the taxpayer to basically pay for all babies (which is another gross misinterpretation of government effectiveness; where is all that money going to come from?). Since men should (by your account) be allowed to fuck off whenever they want, and the state should pay for child care exclusively, why have parents? If we had it your way, childre…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 07:27 PM
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So all of your possible solutions to make this "fair" is to shit all over women, as much and as many as possible - simply so that a few shit-head losers who can't pay up (Robin Williams paid his child support quite capably if he was even required to) get a free pass? I no longer believe you are a woman, but I'd be kind of ashamed to think of you as a man instead. If you truly are female, I fear you must hate other women, or are jealous of those that can reproduce - as you seem to be more in favo…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 06:56 PM
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A child you were forced against your will to become the parent of after engaging in a consensual act of sex that produced the child. When did we become more irresponsible than feminists?
/r/MensRights19/02/16 06:45 PM
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Can you cite the most recent example?
/r/MensRights19/02/16 06:26 PM
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You're using the founder of Cirque du Soleil as your example? The man's worth TWO BILLION DOLLARS. He's probably not raising the children because he's busy with his hands in four or five different ventures, so that his kids get the best that he can think to offer. Has anyone asked him if CAD$34 000 was too much? He'd probably say no. What with his TWO BILLION DOLLARS.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 05:58 PM
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There are nine locations in my city that will allow someone to use their address as a mailing location, including the YMCA and YWCA. Hell, you can even stay at the Y. I'm really starting to question your credentials. You say you're a woman but I had to correct you on female biology. You said you're Canadian, but I've had to correct you more than once about systems that function in Canada. And it's not -20 degrees every day in Canada. It's only been -20 a handful of times this winter, even. Next …
/r/MensRights19/02/16 05:45 PM
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Yes, that would be good. Then we can make abortions be state financed so both men and women pay for it with taxes. No! That would be terrible! Why are we trying to have more abortions instead of fewer pregnancies??? You're insane. Categorically. All your examples only affect men. Won't deter female SJWs (and their white knights, who think maleness is divided in them and evil ones). They also won't care about throwing due process the way of the dodo for rapes, given female rapists are rarely even…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 05:33 PM
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I'm narrowing my eyes in disbelief. You do know that all his children are grown up. His youngest, Zelda, is 26. If he even paid child support (which none of the 6 articles I read indicated he did, only alimony) he hadn't been for years before his death. Because once your kid turns 18, he's not a child any more. And CHILD SUPPORT is meant to SUPPORT the CHILD, none of this "maintaining lifestyle" bullshit. Alimony is meant to provide a potentially housebound spouse with the means to blah blah bla…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 05:15 PM
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Citation needed.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 04:50 PM
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First of all, it takes 3 weeks to starve to death, assuming you're not already a little fat. A dedicated parent can and does go without meals to feed their kids, either due to money or just too busy. But no one in the western world (especially Canada) can be in a position where you cannot feed yourself. If you have only enough food for one person, and there's you and a kid, then you can apply for Social Assistance. If not that, then you can at least go to a donation drive to get food. Still don'…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 04:37 PM
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So we could just make it equal. So we could just make it equal, how? By allowing men to opt-out and not pay child support? What would that solve? Prompting a freakish spike in abortions because potential mothers get stuck either aborting or adopting out. Forced to choose one of the two, because while she can't raise it on her own for financial reasons? And soon after, a rash of crimes committed against newly-single men whose babymamas got jilted by their little paperwork fiasco. You might cry "e…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 04:26 PM
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It's called contempt of court. That makes debtor prisons legal just for that. At least in the US. Again, you're only found to be guilty if you can't drum up any proof that you have a good reason for being broke. Lost your job? Show them the papers, and you'll not be held for it. But if you're broke because you wanted that new phone or that TV, you're shit-outta-luck. Why don't you piss on Robin Williams tomb while you're at it?? What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Are you seriously trying to…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 04:06 PM
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I'm sure you can. No idea why that's relevant!
/r/MensRights19/02/16 03:54 PM
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Only if he's married to the mother (in the US) Sorry, all he has to prove is that he was cohabiting with her when the baby was conceived! I'm going by Canadian law, since you're Canadian(?). Not sure about specifics in American law. And male custodians get child support from female non-custodians a LOT less If the woman is making little to nothing, while the man is making a comfortable amount, then yes, the female would likely not have to pay. The situation would be the same if a wealthy woman h…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 03:41 PM
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Against the state, who is the one threatening prison. Refusing to pay child support is child neglect. Unless you're actually unable to pay, the law needs to be enforced. And not baby crazy. I know, I'm sooo weird... /s I'm not even a woman and I know that abortions are painful. Maybe not weird, but seeming at least a little bit lazy :s People said EXACTLY THAT with abortion legal. Women would party left and right and have sex unattached without thinking about it, and apocalypse would happen. You…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 03:30 PM
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You don't starve because you're poor. You starve when you have no food. Poor people aren't penniless; they're just unable to pay for creature comforts like cable TV, brand name labels, and 2 ply toilet paper. They can survive. I'm poor, for example. I'm not dead. Not last time I checked.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 08:13 AM
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Ah yes, the choice of a woman to bring the kid to term is the responsibility of the guy who can't abort. He should foot 100% of the bill or he's horrible, right? Wrong. 100%? This seems like another one of those things where I understand why you're incorrect about this, but I'm still surprised as to how incorrect. Child support is not 100% of the child's needs. It's arranged by the court. My niece's father owes about $250 a month to my sister (and hasn't paid once since my niece was born in 2011…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 07:55 AM
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You seem to assume I'm a guy. You mustn't know who Schala is then. But yeah, not a guy, not fertile, not having PIV sex, not concerned by this personally. But in a future life, I'd so prefer the woman side - it's 100% choice 0% responsibility. Never assumed. And I know Schala and where she's from. And if you aren't having sex and you can't have kids, how do you know that it's 0% responsibility? You've never had a brush with it! They are in Canada, where I am. Love the healthcare system here. You…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 07:28 AM
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Why don't you take a trip to Ireland or Australia, where you or the baby need to be in medical danger, or you're legitimately unable to generate the money to provide child care. Or you could go to Brazil, where you or the kid basically need to be dying before you can terminate. How about Argentina, where only the Mother's welfare is considered - is she ill or dying? Was she raped into becoming pregnant? Or Chile, where abortion is completely illegal?
/r/MensRights19/02/16 06:40 AM
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Lose your job? Get in prison. I don't believe it's that simple. If you can demonstrate that you have had no money to pay, the courts would not throw you in prison. Debtor's Prisons have been illegal for centuries. Want to go in a lower paying but more 'fun for you' domain? Get told you're doing this on purpose and that you HAVE to keep the high paying job anyway. And you think that having a child is the only way someone could get stuck in a stressful job in order to keep making the money? What a…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 06:26 AM
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Women can basically do anything they want to each other. That's not a legal precedent. That's a "for all I care" sentiment. The more they go after each other, the less they go after us.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 05:26 AM
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You're not real clear on the concept of slavery, are you? And a man has a much greater chance of being subjected to this slavery than a woman does of dying. Actually, based on the title "Women have more to lose if they get knocked up", my remark is not only an accurate comparison and a very honest remark, it is your remark that is the disingenuous one. You are attempting to compare providing financial care for your child to Slavery, and using a red herring to validate your view. The subject was …
/r/MensRights19/02/16 04:59 AM
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Can't afford and doesn't want are two different things and I promise you, inspire two completely different feelings. You can be happy and poor. I can't imagine being happy and unwanted.
/r/MensRights19/02/16 04:41 AM
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Nope, this protection is also in Canada I'm Canadian, and not only have I never heard of a safe haven law in Canada, I also looked it up and apparently, we don't have safe haven laws. Our Crown attorney simply chooses not to prosecute - the reason being that if they prosecute, they're just spending money to put someone in jail and separate them from a kid they didn't want anyway - probably because she doesn't have the money to take care of the kid thanks to a deadbeat dad who isn't paying his ch…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 04:31 AM
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Then why force the dude who doesn't want to father and who's only fault was sex? The state can foot the bill for him too, not just for her. You appear to misconstrue the facts; when there is no longer any willing parent for a child, the state must step in because the public demanded it. No child left behind. It's quite a correct philosophy too; the child did nothing wrong. Why allow them to suffer needlessly when there is plenty to go around? I'm struggling to wrap my head around the fact that y…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 04:08 AM
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Nobody cares when the woman gives the kid for adoption or safe haven though. Can you quantify and substantiate that assertion? It's vague and lacks supporting evidence. Why isn't she forced to pay 18 years for the kid so the kid isn't destitute? Once surrendered, an orphaned child becomes the charge of the state, who pays for the foundling's welfare and housing, ensuring an education, et cetera. Entering the adoption system is an agreement the government has made amongst the public, that it is n…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 02:24 AM
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From Wikipedia: Safe-haven laws (also known in some states as "Baby Moses laws", in reference to the religious scripture) are statutes in the United States that decriminalize the leaving of unharmed infants with statutorily designated private persons so that the child becomes a ward of the state. Under Safe Haven laws, you don't just leave a baby on a bridge or someone's doorstep. You take it to a designated shelter, and anonymously surrender the child to the state. If you do not deliver the chi…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 02:13 AM
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any woman that decides to keep a pregnancy and therefore become a single mother is doing so by choice. Abortion being illegal in some places is not relevant. The source of pregnancy is again not relevant. I am unable to resolve these statements as both being true. If a woman's source of pregnancy is against her will, and the law prohibits her from terminating the pregnancy, how can she be the mother by choice? There is another A word that also applies in this case -- adoption. I don't even want …
/r/MensRights19/02/16 01:53 AM
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She can adopt the kid out, or abandon it no questions asked. Something the father can't do. If she gives the child up for adoption, she can no longer claim child support. If she abandons it, she can be arrested for child neglect and endangerment. If this comes to pass, we can revert to "keep it in your pants" days, but it goes both ways. Not "men, keep it in your pants, women do whatever, you got options right to after the birth". I don't grasp the relevance to this statement. There's never been…
/r/MensRights19/02/16 12:30 AM
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Your binary attitude makes me a Sad Panda. The problem with "Free Speech" is that nobody knows what it means and nobody uses it properly. Your freedom of speech is a right bestowed on you by your government that guarantees that you may communicate ideas and opinions without fear of reprisal from them. You may criticize, question, and even mock in your commentary. However, your freedom of speech must remain compatible with others rights as well, and you freedom of speech ends when it conflicts wi…
/r/MensRights18/02/16 11:17 PM
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Being a single mother is a choice. If abortion was illegal It is, in many places. then your argument would be cogent. Because every woman that gets pregnant makes that choice It's estimated that 25,000 women per year in the United States become pregnant as a direct result of a rape. "Every woman" is as hard a claim to make as "Every man". Careful with that. whether they admit to or not. Not making a decision is a decision. You're missing the point. Biologically speaking, a man's life is not at r…
/r/MensRights18/02/16 11:07 PM
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Abortion is a great means for averting the death of the mother as a result of an unusual or dangerous pregnancy. It also serves well to extinguish the life of a baby who is deformed and is certain to face challenges simply to continue existing throughout its years. Apparently, it's popular for getting irresponsible people out facing the consequences of their stupidity. Also, an abortion wouldn't save a woman who dies during childbirth. Also, it's totally irrelevant to whether or not the men or w…
/r/MensRights18/02/16 10:46 PM
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1 in 10'000 women dies during childbirth in the developed world. There are probably more men dying while working, then women while giving birth. We're note in 18th century anymore. Apples and oranges. This has nothing to do with men who work. This is a topic about who has more to risk during pregnancy on a biological level. Even if only 1 in 10 000 women die during childbirth, that is 100% more women during as a result of being pregnancy than men. Therefore, women have more to risk when getting …
/r/MensRights18/02/16 10:34 PM
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Because legality is what gives women an opt-out option, and legality is what keeps men from having an opt-out option. Technically it's science that gives women the opt-out option. Law is what kinda blocks both parties in different ways (for different reasons).
/r/MensRights18/02/16 10:18 PM
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a lifetime of child support Assuming the man is not in the child's life, the woman has committed the next 18 years of her life or more to parenting this child. What right does the guy have to tell her he wants take-backsies? It's not like we're suddenly finding out that it's the woman who has the final say in this. We've known for thousands of years. A woman can end a pregnancy with a f*king coat hanger in a bathroom and you'd have no way of stopping her. The reality of the situation is that you…
/r/MensRights18/02/16 10:07 PM
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What do men stand to lose when they get a woman pregnant? May be required by the state to pay child support. May be pressured by family into marrying woman for tradition. Now what are women up against? Hormonal changes when pregnancy begins, resulting in mood swings that persist the entire pregnancy. Rapid weight gain, resulting in possible strain, pain, and even injury to hips and knees. Social pressure if she is low-income or single/unmarried mother. Actually dying during childbirth. I think #…
/r/MensRights18/02/16 09:50 PM
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Based on what I've seen, and how the moderators allow some conversations to spin wildly out of control, I might hazard that no banning policy exists at all. People who comment on some of the threads in this subreddit have a discouragingly high chance of coming under attack from a sociopathic, conscience-less troll.
/r/MensRights18/02/16 09:15 PM
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Has it ever even been the manly thing to do, mocking a woman's fashion sense? I might have believed the "internalized misogyny" line if it had been something like two women insulting another woman's crooked tits or something, but men really really don't care what you're wearing.
/r/MensRights18/02/16 08:17 PM
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The article's author is female, and everyone quoted in the article is female. Seems biased to me.
/r/MensRights18/02/16 08:04 PM
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I'm relatively sure I could reply to this, but the length of this discussion has superceded my interest in the topic. I absolutely disagree with you, but it becomes slightly impossible to research and write about something when you just don't care.
/r/MensRights11/02/16 01:11 PM
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And no, the world is not fair. You may believe it so, but the fact is that it is not. You are mistaking "fair" with equal. The world is not equal; there are imbalances everywhere. But those imbalances are there for a reason (not because someone designed it to disadvantage anyone) and developed over time. I'm not going to go any further. I came here for engaging discussion and you're making things rather personal.
/r/MensRights10/02/16 03:29 PM
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why should she be able to determine what happens to us as men? She can determine what she wishes for herself, and even to some extent the child-- but she should not have the ability to determine what happens to us, by her decisions. I'm afraid this one comes down to numbers. She is acting in the interests of her own bodily integrity and the welfare of the child. Men are looking out for themselves, and that's all. Not even their bodily integrity - just their wallets. You want to be allowed to fuc…
/r/MensRights09/02/16 10:02 PM
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Getting pregnant is not still [a man's] responsibility-- it is the responsibility of both parties It currently is. What you're proposing is that you allow men to remove themselves, while the woman is forced to take over the responsibilities. Remember, we're not in a society where abortion isn't controversially legal-here-illegal-there. We risk leaving many expecting mothers with no partner, no means of supporting herself and a baby, and no legal recourse to terminate. and he doesn't get to say, …
/r/MensRights09/02/16 09:50 PM
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why is it okay for a woman to be able to decide to either terminate a child or give birth to the child, but the only choice the man in the situation has is to accept whatever the woman decides? I've got a question. What did we do to earn the right to dictate anything in the process? Who has to fuel the pregnancy process, bear the body changes, the discomfort, the weight gain, the mobility problems, and the mercurial mood? Who gets to physically give birth? If us guys had anything to do after "ej…
/r/MensRights09/02/16 09:26 PM
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This is what I'm getting from you. I'm kinda TL;DRing you because I read your most recent post first and you made it personal. People should be allowed to have sex whenever they want. Men should be allowed to opt out of fatherhood without paying child support. If a man opts out of fatherhood, a woman should be left with "abort", "give it away" or "raise it alone". Contraceptives are a "get out of parenthood free" card. The problem isn't that those statements are untrue. They are kind of all true…
/r/MensRights09/02/16 09:01 PM
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You certainly can be petty. Bravo.
/r/MensRights09/02/16 08:39 PM
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I honestly think that your entire view of sex is puritanical. Thank you. That is probably mostly correct. I recognize that sex is very pleasurable, but I fail to see why people need to prioritize their physical pleasure over their own good sense. A large part of the negative consequences of an abortion are caused by society anyway I'm honestly neither for, nor against. I see the woman's right to bodily integrity, but I fear the casual nature of extinguishing an unborn baby that is emerging. It i…
/r/MensRights09/02/16 04:55 PM
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Thanks! It does work better. Imagine it even worse, if the property owners decide they don't want to build a new house yet, but the law says that because the materials are there, the house has to go up.
/r/MensRights09/02/16 04:38 PM
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Referring to men that don't want to be fathers as 'irresponsible cunt[s]' is flat-out insulting. But referring to men who get women pregnant and then want to opt out for insufficient reasons as "irresponsible cunts" is... well, it's still insulting. But it's accurate. There's nothing wrong with not wanting to be a father. I don't want to be a father. The thing is, I'm not stupid enough to risk getting a woman pregnant to get my rocks off. Because I'm not an irresponsible cunt. Sex is not an impl…
/r/MensRights09/02/16 03:21 PM
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The 14th Amendment is what some people use to oppose abortion altogether, as it guarantees everyone protection under the law. At least, that's how I remember what I know about the 14th Amendment. Not being an American, I haven't gone into the specifics and language of the revision. You'll have to forgive that. The rights discrepancy needs to be fixed. I have serious doubts that anything is going to be fixed by pointing at women and going "How come??" like a child who didn't get the same chocolat…
/r/MensRights09/02/16 02:43 PM
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Women shouldn't be abandoning their kids either. That's another thing about the men's rights movement that has troubled me. We could talk about this so much better if we just stopped with the incessant "Well why do women get to X but men can't?" and "Why do men have to do Y but women only have to do Z?" It's a red herring in disguise, because it looks like the oversight about women and parenting is a big boost to your argument, but it's actually a separate (and equally important) issue. Perhaps …
/r/MensRights09/02/16 02:17 PM
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The father has a duty to nothing. This tells me a great deal about the time I'm about to waste, but here we go. Abortion is a moral right of all women. Apparently not a legal one though. When, and if, that becomes the case, the fact that a child exists is therefore the choice of a woman. Not always! And when it is, aborting a baby just because Daddy is an irresponsible cunt doesn't sound like you're acting in the best interests of the child. It sounds selfish. Don't tell the man involved to 'thi…
/r/MensRights09/02/16 02:05 PM
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You're talking about the mother again. The Children. Aborting the child because Dad decides he doesn't want it just doesn't fly. An abortion should be reserved for a real, legitimate reason - such as a health risk to the mother, likelihood of deformity... I could even see a poor household unable to care for the kid needing to abort. Giving a child up for adoption and hoping they don't come out as a criminal or a drug addict is about as good as leaving it in the forest and hoping he comes back as…
/r/MensRights09/02/16 11:24 AM
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Cash out all your bank accounts and get a girlfriend. Someone who is in her 20s and doesn't look like she has a lot of brains. Then send pics of your new romance to the old bag.
/r/MensRights09/02/16 11:11 AM
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Fair does not mean equal, and passing the burden onto the child (who will have to live a more difficult life because Dad's not contributing) is not fair. Sometimes it isn't always about the adults. To use a cliche: "Think about the children."
/r/MensRights09/02/16 10:46 AM
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Using ration and reason or logic with a feminist in this day and age is like trying to logic with a devoted Christian. There is a stunning barricade of misinformation, fearmongering, victim-culture, and selective listening built around these people, carefully shielding them from absolutely anything that doesn't conform to the doctrine they've been infused with - regardless of how valid and factual it is.
/r/MensRights09/02/16 10:36 AM
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Feministing.org is a satire site. This is their front-page blurb; Young, middle-class, college-educated white women are rarely given the opportunity to speak on our own behalf on issues that affect our lives and futures because we're so horribly and obviously oppressed. Feministing.org provides a platform for us to comment, analyze, whine about our unending victimization, and (best of all) COMPLAIN CEASELESSLY! And if you're a non-white visitor, then we're DESPERATE for you to post in our Commen…
/r/MensRights24/01/16 11:48 AM
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Something I've discovered here is that there seems to be a certain amount of yes-manning, where someone will post an article or a link to something that identifies a weakness in the Equality Argument, and it's given the same amount of "that's inexcusable" as any other. While some issues, like unfair sentencing and education deserve real discussion, while other things, like one restaurant somewhere in the middle of Nowhere USA experimenting with a unisex bathroom instead of a men's room, barely d…
/r/MensRights20/01/16 02:05 AM
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"Baby if I could, cha-a-a-aaange... the world."
/r/MensRights19/01/16 07:53 PM
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That bathroom thing is - a) brutally less than uncommon, and b) doomed to failure if left to proceed on its own. It'll solve itself. The scholarship thing is a laugh; if men wanted more male-only scholarships, they only have to do it the old-fashioned way. BE BETTER SCHOLARS. Women are kicking our ass in school, why are we surprised they're earning all the scholarships? The gym thing will pass too. All we have to do is just let 'em have the ladies gyms and ladies hours. Eventually, they'll becom…
/r/MensRights19/01/16 05:11 AM
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But again, the need for an exclusively-male session time at a gym doesn't compute for me. The fear factor of a man being assaulted by a woman at a gym (regardless of the actual statistics) is lower than the level of fear and caution among the female population. We as men can't simply make that fear go away; the effect the media and the feminist scare have had on women will likely persist for the remainder of their lives, and only subside in generations (much the way intolerance for race and orie…
/r/MensRights19/01/16 05:01 AM
1

We have feminist-pressured universities "investigating" rape cases on campus instead of - oh, I don't know - the police. We have female criminals receiving an average of half the sentence a man would get for the same crime under the same circumstances. We have fathers unable to see their kids because their ex-wife is vindictive. Men going to prison over defaulting on child support (didn't we outlaw debtor's prisons?). And what do the trolls want to post? About how women get their own special gym…
/r/MensRights19/01/16 04:35 AM
1

Gee, I remember hearing someone say something like that, but it was 20 years ago and I wasn't particularly compliant with bullies then either.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 04:23 AM
0

I can only wonder what kind of community you live in. Either men are so second-class that you've become fanatical, or women are so second-class that you've become indignant. Either way; I feel bad for everyone you embarrass with your attitude. PS: What's all this about a final word? I'm not competing; but if you are, then I'll tell you when I've had the final word, not the other way around, boy.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 03:46 AM
2

Nah, man. They just enjoy being scumbags. MensRights seems identical to the Feminism subreddit, only bitchy overopinionated self-righteous men have replaced the bitchy overopinionated self-righteous women.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 03:36 AM
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I've had the final word for days; you haven't done anything but sling baseless immature insults at me, rather than even remotely addressing my viewpoint. Literally nothing except that. I'm sorry that you can't exude even the slightest modicum of basic human respect. This could have been an interesting discussion about men's issues (and why hitting the panic button over a "women's space" is just pantomiming the worst parts of feminism that we guys fucking hate). But, and this is purely your doing…
/r/MensRights19/01/16 03:25 AM
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I'm siding with ekat_clan on this one. This subreddit has not proven to be a place of discussion. I'm one of those people that is never 100% on anyone's side; I have my own brain and it tends to do insane things like formulate opinions rather than regurgitate them. As such, while I mostly agree with many of the topics that get posted here, I don't agree with them all, and sometimes I only partially agree. I was under the foolish understanding that it was okay for me to state what those opinions …
/r/MensRights19/01/16 03:14 AM
1

Move out. Radical feminism like that is indoctrinated and impossible to negotiate. It's toxic to your mental health and you're best of cutting it completely out of your life.
/r/MensRights19/01/16 03:02 AM
1

You might wanna look up Dunning-Kroeger Effect again, because I'm not seeing any evidence that I've touted my intellect, or any evidence that I'm delusional. You're the one pissing like a child that you can't use women's gyms. Are you going to start bitching that you can't use women's restrooms next?
/r/MensRights19/01/16 02:46 AM
0

I'm debating whether you're using the feminine references as a troll, or if you're actually just stupid and think I'm female. Oh well. The difference between you and me is that I had something to say about your opinion (long, long ago), and you've only ever had something to say about me personally. You have the impartiality and disposition of a tumblr feminist and you're making men look petty and pathetic by complaining about a gym. "Waah, I can't go work out with women that I'll never talk to b…
/r/MensRights18/01/16 11:52 PM
1

I have a better idea. Why don't you find something more relevant to bitch about other than "boo hoo I can't work out at women gyms" when there are a dozen other important issues to deal with. You're behaving like a whiny feminist that can't bulldoze her way into a "man's" game.
/r/MensRights18/01/16 11:26 PM
0

Surely you know how much I think of your opinions by now. Good job setting back mens rights another ten years. (-b'-')-b
/r/MensRights18/01/16 10:12 PM
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Sorry that I had something better to do on Sunday than respond to you. It's finally snowing here and I wanted to toboggan.
/r/MensRights18/01/16 09:19 PM
1

In this case, the analogy would be "whites and coloureds" and "coloureds only" fountains, installed because non-whites were being disproportionately harassed at the fountains the whites use. The entire analogy has a main flaw, though, because public drinking fountains were provided by the tax payers and the government, whereas a local gym is often a private, for-profit organization, like a gentleman's club or a men's barber. It's less about discrimination and more about offering a service to an …
/r/MensRights18/01/16 08:57 PM
1

Matches your intelligence quotient.
/r/MensRights18/01/16 08:47 PM
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I fail to see why a unisex gym is unsuitable for men. And again, the comic strip is comparing women-only fitness clubs to whites-only drinking fountains, which is fallacious, since blacks and other ethnic minorities weren't simply given a separate installation; they were frequently given access to the absolute most basic, sometimes unacceptable substitutions because they were black. Men are not being forced to work out in dingier, dirtier, less acceptable gyms. They just have to keep working out…
/r/MensRights17/01/16 04:37 AM
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No wonder feminists are all so frustrated, having to walk around all those pink bubbles?
/r/MensRights16/01/16 10:56 PM
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All you're doing is attacking me instead of my point of view.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 10:43 PM
1

Even bait needs logic.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 09:10 PM
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Wrong on both counts. I'm just a fellow with his own functioning brain who disagrees with your sentiment. I didn't realize dissenting opinion equates to trolling in the MensRights subreddit.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 09:09 PM
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All right, so you have something against "Beta Males" (even though, statistically, there's only supposed to be one alpha male in a pack, using the same analogy). That's fine. Everyone has their own philosophy. What I want to know is, why is the head of a scrawny dude poorly photoshopped onto a roid-head's selfie? (Yeah, shadowed orange-toned face with an illuminated pink-toned arm? Says Photoshop.)
/r/MensRights16/01/16 08:14 PM
1

Can't tell if sarcasm or stupid.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 08:10 PM
1

As long as both partners are consenting and of legal age to give consent (unless there's just no sex involved), the age gap is just a matter of personal preference.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 08:08 PM
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Me? You're the one begging attention by posting this stuff.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 08:01 PM
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Commentary like this is why feminists don't take men seriously. Women have women only gyms, men have unisex fitness clubs. In the 50s, whites had drinking fountains and "Coloureds" had a metal box that may or may not dispense water. I think you'll find, as well, that if a fitness centre opens that is exclusively for men, very few men would go, since the unisex gyms are clean, inexpensive, and conspicuously free of 'roid-heads.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 07:46 PM
1

You're not even seeing what you're doing, you're claiming one type of relationship is statuary rape while another isn't I did absolutely no such thing in any fashion whatsoever. Any person who, for any perceived reason, commits an act of a sexual nature against any person who is not of age of consent has committed Statutory Rape, and I can't make that any clearer. That's what the whole "use the same weights and measures" thing means. As far as I'm concerned consent doesn't matter based on gender…
/r/MensRights16/01/16 07:22 PM
5

I'm confused why we're being linked to a feminist op-ed about this, since it is written from the perspective of someone who views the backlash as trolling. Is there no balanced article that doesn't portray angry responses as "misogynistic" trolls?
/r/MensRights16/01/16 06:57 PM
2

Feminism "kicked in" in the 1950s with the Civil Rights Movement. Radical feminism (the kind of feminism no one likes) started up in the 1980s, and did not pervade the education system with any of its values until some of those philosophies became part of the mainstream in the late 1990s. Not only was the 1970s the time in which Feminism was largely advocated at college campuses (not primary school classrooms), but I have also not been able to find even derisive references to anything called a "…
/r/MensRights16/01/16 06:51 PM
1

The saddest thing is that this advert isn't American. The website's suffix, .ca is Canadian.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 06:46 PM
2

How far back is that? I get the feeling I might actually be older than you.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 06:42 PM
1

I'm willing to bet that the people downvoting me as well as you were out there defending him. That's awfully presumptuous, and presumptuously awful. I've never defended statutory rape, nor will I ever do such a thing. All in all, I don't have much else to reply to you with, since it appears you based your entire response on a faulty assumption. Again, all us guys want is for the same weights and measures to be used, regardless of the gender of the criminal. No one wants rapists running amok.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 06:38 PM
2

What first comes to your mind when you say 'Traditional man'? I think of stately gentlemen. British Lords, and American business tycoons of the early 20th century. Take Tyler Durden (fight club) Tyler Durden was a hallucination conjured by an emotionally distressed man (played by Edward Norton) suffering from multiple personalities. or maybe Aragorn (LoTR) Aragorn is an unrealistic hero, even to young men who read Tolkien's written works when they were new. Additionally, I do believe the feature…
/r/MensRights16/01/16 06:24 PM
1

I don't think I even understood the point the writer was trying to make. I'll confess that after starting to read and getting bored of feminist shit, I started skipping large chunks of text, but can you blame me? It's like reading about global warming. Boring and nebulous.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 05:57 PM
2

I fail to see the humour. Perhaps you could explain this as well.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 05:45 PM
3

I'm having trouble determining where being a "traditional man" dictates that a male must accept all offers of sexual contact and regard even encounters he did not want as consensual, or even what defines a "traditional man" - especially since the idea of masculinity is expressed differently in different areas of the world at different times in history.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 05:34 PM
1

Statutory Rape is still a thing. Doesn't matter if they enjoyed it or not; it's illegal to mess with kids. Having the sense to use a condom doesn't imply pleasure; it reinforces that the boys understood that sex without condoms can cause pregnancy. It can also suggest that they were instructed to use a rubber. Let's not go around acting like feminists and make men the perpetual victims Nobody is suggesting we victimize ourselves. But it might be prudent to use the same weights and measures when …
/r/MensRights16/01/16 05:24 PM
2

I never said all sex is rape. You're putting words in my mouth. I said, why are we promoting a culture that tells young boys that whether they want sex or not is irrelevant? Why are we promoting a culture that suggests that boys and men are supposed to be sexually promiscuous at all times? Why do we offer women more ways to abuse men and get away with it? Maybe you want sex all the time, so when a woman pins you down and does whatever she wants, you're in heaven. Personally, I have zero interest…
/r/MensRights16/01/16 05:16 PM
4

Sorry, but your response baffles me. You're in a subreddit dedicated to discussion about men's rights, and yet you believe that young men should be delighted and proud to have been raped, even if they have no interest in having sex? Could you explain that to me?
/r/MensRights16/01/16 05:07 PM
3

Yes, I've seen the picture before. I simply don't know how a foppish health insurance advert relates to criminal forced intercourse.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 04:57 PM
5

I have a strong issue with your claim. Men have been mischaracterized for a long time as being the gender that constantly wants sex. The fact that this has actually been an unfounded stereotype for generations doesn't mean that men have gotten sappy and weak. Furthermore, I would like to take a moment to remind all of female-kind that a man having an erection does not equate to a man enjoying himself. An erection results from specific stimuli that are not indicative of a man's psychological and …
/r/MensRights16/01/16 04:45 PM
3

I do not understand what that means.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 04:32 PM
1

It saddens me a little more every day when I see stuff like this. I've gone the "just don't have sex" route. I can't pay child support to someone I never knocked up, and they can't falsely accuse me of rape if I'm never alone with one of them.
/r/MensRights16/01/16 03:00 PM
4

I wish rapist teachers didn't exist; why would anyone want more of them?
/r/MensRights16/01/16 02:30 PM
1

The number of decent people on Earth remained fixed. It's simply our population that is growing.
/r/MensRights15/01/16 05:02 PM
You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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