Turinturambar44 Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)

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1	Applying the same logic to the pay gap myth to incel logic There is no disparity for race. In fact, I believe statistical breakdown would likely show that racial minorities are given a preference in hiring when you control for all other factors. Due to diversity initiatives. I believe where there is an ethnic gap is when you do studies for ethnic names. A name that sounds far too different may get fewer call backs for fear from employers that there will be a communication barrier. And I also believe that in recent years with diversity initiatives, Asian…	/r/AllPillDebate	14/03/23 03:10 PM
2	Applying the same logic to the pay gap myth to incel logic How do white men slay in Asian countries? Immigration from the west to the east is rare, so if you're talking from a jobs standpoint, white men generally are only migrating to the East if it's for a specific job opportunity, so the average success is going to be high. Where as people migrating from the east to the west aren't doing it generally for a specific job but mostly due to not having any opportunity in Asia(or their parents migrated due to this reason), so this is representative of a gro…	/r/AllPillDebate	14/03/23 03:03 PM
2	Applying the same logic to the pay gap myth to incel logic Most of those studies showing ethnic bias are quite old and don't account for incentives that have been put in place the last several years to prioritize POC hiring in the work place. Though I'd be surprised if for some ethnic sounding names that the bias isn't still there. There's a concern in the back of the mind for some recruiters that a name that sounds too foreign might indicate the person won't speak english well and thus communication will become an issue. I also know that when recruiter…	/r/AllPillDebate	14/03/23 02:33 PM
1	Applying the same logic to the pay gap myth to incel logic I think he was more asserting not that they aren't capable, but that they may not be familiar enough with western norms that they're presenting themselves in ways that may hurt their chances. It's a cultural thing, not a DNA thing. I'd imagine a person from the west might face a similar issue if he immigrated to India or Japan for that matter. Like for instance, in college I'd go to the gym. Foreign dudes would be working out in polo shirts with collars and wind pants. It was weird. Weird to me …	/r/AllPillDebate	14/03/23 02:27 PM
1	Applying the same logic to the pay gap myth to incel logic Actually there's a hiring incentive for non-white, though Asian might not be included in that. Most ethnicities will actually be given hiring preference for most professional level jobs. But you may be at a disadvantage as an Indian. Some of it may depend on name on pre-screening. It's not that you're Indian so much as they may think there will be a language barrier and communication may be an issue. So, yes if your name sounds too foreign you may be at a disadvantage on prescreening. But once y…	/r/AllPillDebate	14/03/23 02:19 PM
1	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating Like what do y’all really want from us? We cant win. I mean..that's life is it not? We all have to deal with our double standards and differing expectations of what behavior is acceptable and what isn't acceptable. Women are not unique in this. For example when it comes to dating/approaching..... As a man, if you don't approach, you're a coward. if you do, you're harassing. If a woman is flirting and you don't recognize it, you're an idiot who doesn't understand women, if you see another woman a…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 10:25 PM
1	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating Nobody has said "all women". You're the exception, not the rule. Women have always been more picky/choosy than men. This makes sense from a biological perspective, because historically the female has had to bare the children. This makes her very vulnerable during pregnancy and very vulnerable while raising small children(hard to hunt and provide for yourself and your children when you're not only at a physical disadvantage compared to males, but also have a small child attached to your hip). So …	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 10:04 PM
1	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating Usually because those cave trolls are wealthy. Top 5% does not mean top 5% attractive men. Attractiveness helps, but the top 5% largely means top earners and high status men. After wealth, physical attraction comes into play giving an attractive wealthy man the edge over an ugly wealthy man. But make no mistake about it, the cave troll of a man who is wealthy can and will be included in that top 5%, but a super good looking dude who is broke is not going to be included in that top 5%. Women(in g…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 09:52 PM
1	Its true, women don't make any effort in dating Dude is wildly over the top with his response. Yet at the end of the day it is true that women are far pickier and that men do put in more effort than women, at least early in the relationship. I do think women put in as much effort as the men later in the relationship as they become committed to each other. But make no mistake, the early stages most of the effort is on the man, because he is the one doing the wooing and the woman is the one waiting to decide if she wants to keep him. And it mak…	/r/PurplePillDebate	27/12/22 09:49 PM
1	I think that a large part of the wage gap is a result of society expecting men to be the breadwinner, what do you think? Men can also be paid less. On average though, men and women are paid the same when they do the same work. The wage gap is simply the average earnings of all men compared to the average earnings of all women. If we really want to reduce the wage gap, we need to stop putting pressure on men to be financially lucrative. Yet every feminist I know who complains about the wage gap(and is also straight), they all still say "I need a man who makes as much as me OR MORE". They continue to put financial e…	/r/MensRights	26/01/22 06:08 PM
1	I think that a large part of the wage gap is a result of society expecting men to be the breadwinner, what do you think? I don't know that I agree that women aren't built to be workhorses. Men and women can both be hardworkers, even if sometimes in different ways. But regarding your first point, I do find it funny how they're always writing articles about how there aren't enough quality men out there for rich women. Like....what? If men on average make more than women, that means there's actually MORE men earning at high rates than women. The difference is that when women become high earners, they continue to redu…	/r/MensRights	26/01/22 06:00 PM
1	I think that a large part of the wage gap is a result of society expecting men to be the breadwinner, what do you think? Pretty much entirely. The fact that feminists(and women in general) complain about the wage gap while also continuing to state that they need a man on OR ABOVE their financial level, is the epitome of cognitive dissonance.	/r/MensRights	26/01/22 05:55 PM
1	Hi Feminist here, read before you head to the comments though cause I'm pretty sure we're somewhat on the same page! Good on you then :)	/r/AntiFeminists	18/11/21 01:15 PM
1	Hi Feminist here, read before you head to the comments though cause I'm pretty sure we're somewhat on the same page! If you see the problems within, then fight them. Men are always being told we need to call out our toxic brethren and fight the problems within. Feminists should do the same and reclaim feminism for the rational-minded women who want to live peacefully next to men. I'll warn you though.... You won't have an easy time of it. Other feminists will call you every awful name in the book. You'll just be another pick-me to them with "internalized misogyny" to them.	/r/AntiFeminists	15/11/21 01:28 PM
1	This is why I loathe feminism. Of course not. Patriarchy was a natural result of evolutionary survival of the fittest. The genders evolved to fit these roles because they were doing what each was designed to do. Women are weaker and are especially vulnerable when pregnant or taking care of young. So it only made sense that men would do the hunting and most of the gathering to provide the resources. However, they still needed to share responsibilities, so women who were kind of immobile when pregnant anyway, or couldn't do muc…	/r/AntiFeminists	15/11/21 01:20 PM
1	Hi Feminist here, read before you head to the comments though cause I'm pretty sure we're somewhat on the same page! "why do men think women getting rights means there going to lose their like" Well, because sometimes it does happen. Let's take the focus on STEM for example. Women complain that there aren't enough women in STEM. Fine. They say the same about many things. But here's the thing. Feminists focus on equality of outcome(equity), rather than equality of opportunity. They want to see more women in STEM, more women in this field or that field. And they don't care how they accomplish it. They insist tha…	/r/AntiFeminists	12/11/21 10:58 PM
1	Hi Feminist here, read before you head to the comments though cause I'm pretty sure we're somewhat on the same page! Warning: This will be long. People know what toxic masculinity means, they just think it's a shit term and just another example of feminist hypocrisy. There is no such thing as "toxic masculinity". What there are, is 'toxic people" and "toxic social expectations". I mean think about it....how dumb are feminists when they come up with this terminology? "Let's see....men face tough social situations due to unfair social expectations....what should we call it? I KNOW! Let's take the thing they iden…	/r/AntiFeminists	12/11/21 10:19 PM
1	this entire community just shows one example after another of men's issues related to patriarchy and then says it's feminism's fault There are literally less than 20,000 members for all of those groups combined. White supremacy and beliefs in white supremacy are extremely rare. Mild racism is much more common, but even then most people don't participate. What has happened though is the definition of and what constitutes as, white supremacy/supremacist, has radically shifted. Today, people often yell "white supremacy' simply because like 70% of people in a certain profession are white. But they completely forget that 66% of th…	/r/AntiFeminists	12/11/21 09:34 PM
1	I originally up voted this because what Jenna said was indeed fucked up, but the caption completely ruin it like FFS how is this related to patriarchy at all, like do they even know what patriarchy means Also, there were mitigating facts that the media never reported on that case. Such as the fact that witnesses saw both of them leave and they were both conscious but extremely drunk when they left. They were found only a short while later and dude was going down on the girl. He claims that he didn't know she was unconscious. It's quite possible that what he says is the truth, that she was conscious when he went down on her and that she must have passed out while he was down town and he just didn…	/r/AntiFeminists	12/11/21 09:24 PM
2	yes feminists, a man cannot chose to be +6' feet tall or god knows what..the hypocrisy is real It's because they're dunces who are incapable of critical thinking or deep thought. So they just get angry an yell out patriarchy when talking about literally anything, because it makes them feel good, even if it makes about as much sense as a duck with nipples.	/r/AntiFeminists	12/11/21 09:09 PM
4	Why male authors are being written out of fiction: As a female writer sparks a storm by saying too many novels are penned by women Yeah...whenever critic reviews start out with "such a diverse cast!", I always cringe. I have nothing against a diverse cast and quite like a diverse cast if done right and if it makes sense. But it's quite telling when THAT is what they're focusing on. Like....is the story good? Are the visuals good? Did the product crew set a good scene with compelling story lines and character development? Don't just tell me about the ethnicity/orientation of the cast. I'll figure that part out when I watch t…	/r/MensRights	27/10/21 12:29 PM
2	Excellent educational documentary (debunking the wage gap myth) now age restricted by Youtube If all feminists complaining about the lack of women in STEM decided to quit complaining and instead decided to pursue STEM themselves, the gender gap in STEM would diminish overnight and the wage gap would drop a few % points immediately.	/r/MensRights	27/08/21 05:00 PM
1	Excellent educational documentary (debunking the wage gap myth) now age restricted by Youtube There are other documentaries and/or movies that aren't censored/restricted, despite having brief nudity.	/r/MensRights	27/08/21 04:57 PM
1	Excellent educational documentary (debunking the wage gap myth) now age restricted by Youtube I bet they'll give youtube another award for free speech. Nothing says free speech like censoring/restricting opposing arguments.	/r/MensRights	27/08/21 04:56 PM
1	What is your informed perspective on the wage gap? Well, feminism is an industry at the end of the day. They started out with noble goals. And they achieved them. But an ideology at its base can't continue to exist if it "solves" the problems it set out to achieve. As a result, if they want to keep the gravy train going, they have to go out and find oppression. And as my grandma used to tell me, "if you look for something hard enough, you'll find it, even if it isn't there". That isn't to say that they never stumble upon a truth and that feminis…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	12/07/21 03:16 PM
2	What is your informed perspective on the wage gap? "Do we have evidence that it's men and not women who are forced to go into the job roles they do go into?" Unfortunately I do not think so. I doubt many have really tried to research it, as it's a bit of a taboo topic. All I can really offer is anecdotal experience both from myself and other men I know and talk to, as well as looking at the multiple examples of real life women I've known who held high paying jobs and simply quit so they could become full time mothers, while knowing that I don't …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	09/07/21 04:17 PM
1	What is your informed perspective on the wage gap? Could the remaining 1-3% wage gap be due to competency differences? By that I mean, it's been shown that men are higher represented at the extremes of most traits, and this includes mental traits in addition to physical traits. For some reason there is less genetic diversity in women than in men and women tend to stick closer to the average for some reason. Perhaps this can be tied to reproductive purposes, but researchers do not have an explanation for why it happens. ANYWAYS.... men are shown …	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	09/07/21 03:30 PM
2	What is your informed perspective on the wage gap? Unfortunately I can't tell you. The only two I know off the top of my head are google and tesco. I have seen a couple others though in recent years, even if I can't recall them by name. I tried to find them via google, but everything that popped up was stuff for advocacy and activism. Here's the interesting thing. Google, even though their research found that women were paid more than men for similar positions, they still settled and paid female applicants in a class action lawsuit. But they nev…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	09/07/21 03:13 PM
2	What is your informed perspective on the wage gap? And regarding your last two points... 1) This is interesting, and I've seen it before. I think this suggests that much of the wage gap is innate, because it is true that when you move towards more gender neutral social norms, the wage gap doesn't necessarily disappear, and female representation in "male-dominated" fields does not increase. This suggests that there's a biological element driving our decisions. And why not? We are after all just animals at the end of the day. Smart animals, but an…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	09/07/21 02:15 PM
2	What is your informed perspective on the wage gap? 1) 2% is so small that it can't be directly tied to gender discrimination. This doesn't mean that it doesn't exist at all, but it's so small that it can be simple error or background noise. Also, few things are exactly 50/50, so why would this be 50/50? 2% is pretty much nonexistent. 2) Same. 3) I've seen no data that suggests there is promotion discrimination. If anything, promotion seems to be prioritized to women if all other things are equal. The difference is, women are far less likely to p…	/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates	09/07/21 02:09 PM
0	When it comes to who pays for dates, many women say that the gender wage gap justifies the expectation that men pay for dates. However, amongst the demographic that is dating (i.e., single people), single women outearn single men. Therefore, by their own logic, women should pay for dates. There are a lot of women who said yes to that $5 coffee date and as a result are now married to successful and loyal men who are great providers. The players though, they love to show women a good time, so kudos to you? Women give men all kinds of shit tests. Men really don't, but one we do sometimes give is to see what kind of woman we're dealing with when it comes to $. If she is ok with paying or covering herself and doesn't use you for your wallet, she's a keeper more likely than not. A woma…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/21 05:25 PM
2	When it comes to who pays for dates, many women say that the gender wage gap justifies the expectation that men pay for dates. However, amongst the demographic that is dating (i.e., single people), single women outearn single men. Therefore, by their own logic, women should pay for dates. Women have the upper hand in dating when they're young. But men have the upper hand in dating when they're older.	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/21 05:22 PM
2	When it comes to who pays for dates, many women say that the gender wage gap justifies the expectation that men pay for dates. However, amongst the demographic that is dating (i.e., single people), single women outearn single men. Therefore, by their own logic, women should pay for dates. "I’m that case women, never go anywhere alone with any man as he might be a rapist because that happened to a girl I know (the sad thing is this senecio is most likely then yours)." No it's not. Regardless though, both scenarios are rare for the most part. Men and women need to suck it up and accept that life comes with risks. Sometimes you're going to get the short-end of the stick if you don't play your cards right. Yes, take some risk assessment actions, but don't stop living your life becaus…	/r/PurplePillDebate	08/07/21 05:19 PM