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These retard incels are equating women’s right to vote etc with their desire to get their dick wet. Come onnnn
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/26 02:40 AM

Men can use fleshlights and cock rings. That’s the equivalent
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:28 AM

They’re not. Women watch and enjoy porn too.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 12:16 AM
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They had less divorces back then because it wasn’t allowed
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:57 AM
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Women are the choosers. Cope harder
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/25 04:55 AM
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Not everyone wants a monogamous relationship though. People have different boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 05:52 PM
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He can do that anyways. This happens during monogamous relationships all the time too. I don’t see the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/25 12:01 AM
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There’s a way to be cocky and rude but with “finesse” and charisma. Attractiveness matters a lot here for sure. The more attractive you are, the less charisma you need, but you still need to have it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/25 03:23 AM
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This kind of thing happens so much. I almost think they just can’t help themselves. Their horniness takes over.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/25 10:59 PM
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You’re drawing your own conclusions from your bias. If they had a good reason to take it to court, they would, and when they DO take it to court, they do win a good percentage of the times. I sent you a link with that information. fathers tend to win about 60 percent of child custody disputes that go to trial.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:53 AM
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Women are treated like the default caretakers, yes. this is a cultural problem. Men don’t even remember their children’s shoe sizes lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:46 AM
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It definitely is multifaceted but most people love their kids and don’t want their messiness to spill over. Most couples know that mothers do most of child care, so its by mutual agreement that the mother stays with the child longer.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:42 AM
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Because most people when they divorce don’t hate each other. They figure it out without going to trial and trying to fuck the other one over.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:38 AM
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No. What it shows is that only 4% go to trial. Can you not read lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:36 AM
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I didn’t. I sent you multiple links regarding custody battles, percentages, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:25 AM
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I sent you MULTIPLE links. Data is data, you’re assuming its biased without even looking at it. You’re the biased one deciding to cover your eyes and reject evidence being shown to you simply because it challenges your worldview. You’d rather say “lalalala not true” instead of taking the time to think critically ab the things you say.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:20 AM
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You havent even proven it to yourself lol if the data was there you’d be able to find it easier. You took the easy, emotional route: get angry at what the manosphere algorithm shows you and take it as facts without verifying. Low IQ
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:18 AM
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I have done my own research, and I have the intellectual honesty to send you the facts. Because I actually know how to debate. I sent you links with data. You’re just throwing a temper tantrum and it upsets you to be called out on your complete made up bullshit. If you knew how to debate, you’d provide sources for your claims, but you don’t, so you resort to giving me the burden of proof. Bad form.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:17 AM
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So no data. Again, you have taken a position without actually having any data to back up your opinions. Facts don’t care about your feelings lil dude
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:14 AM
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We don’t know. Data shows its a nonissue. You have to form opinions based on data you have looked at. You have to think critically. When you take a position before you verify facts, you’re not thinking with your head, you’re following an emotional impulse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:13 AM
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Such as?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:11 AM
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Yes and white people get lighter sentences compared to black people. Judges sometimes provide more lenient sentences to women, potentially due to factors like being the primary caretaker of children or having a perceived lower risk of recidivism. Most sentences are determined by plea deals, not trials. It’s a broken system.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:11 AM
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They do. There’s consequences for crimes lol it always depends on context though, as with any crime. Not every single murderer gets the same amount of time locked up.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 02:05 AM
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You need reasons to investigate something. You wouldnt get investigated for a crime unless there’s a lead that you’re committing a crime. Evidence. You need to be proven guilty of a crime in a court of law. That’s the case for all crimes. That’s how the justice system works.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:57 AM
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It’s not widely punished if a dad takes a worse job. It happens all the time. It’s very widespread that men do anything and everything to avoid paying their fair share of child support. Its expensive to raise children. The % varies by location too, and varies by how many children it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:56 AM
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How do you know that for certain? If there’s reason to investigate, it will be investigated. I beg you to get an understanding of the justice system before forming such strong opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:53 AM
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So you’re deciding to take the position that it IS widespread without any evidence to support your belief? You choose a belief and evidence isn’t necessary? Religious fanatic behavior. Child support most often than not is peanuts. Women aren’t doing shit with that because its not even enough for the child’s needs most of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:48 AM
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Does this particular example show a widespread trend? What’s widespread is men NOT paying child support at all. Changes in personal circumstances can and do lead to adjustments in levels of child support payments, and either parent may request that the arrangement be reassessed. Seeking guidance appropriate to each individual’s personal circumstances is important in order to ensure that the best interests of the child or children are served.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:43 AM
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No need for a biography. Just provide supporting evidence. I will tell you why you’re full of shit, it is because: There are no credible reports or evidence of Farrah Fawcett misusing child support. The primary legal action concerning her estate after her death involved the management of her assets, which were primarily left to her son, Redmond O'Neal, in a trust. You made some shit up and you know it. Because at the core of it, your anger is not based on reality that you can prove. If you have …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:38 AM
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The available data doesn’t show that it happens on a large scale. The available data shows that: Only 4% of custody cases require going to trial before primary custody is decided. Courts prioritize the child’s best interests when determining custody, evaluating factors such as the child’s relationship with each parent, parental fitness, and the stability of the parent’s home environment. most child custody arrangements come from negotiated or mediated settlements between the parents. The judge o…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:36 AM
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You didnt provide data. You mentioned Farrah Fawcett. That’s not data. Are they not doing the who, why, and what in schools anymore? What did she do? When? Etc
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:30 AM
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You’re not proving it exists. Makes me wonder if youve even proved it for yourself? Do you just believe what you’re told without fact checking?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:29 AM
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If you’re debating you gotta have the facts dude. That’s how court works you cant just argue from nothing. You need evidence. Have you ever written an essay in school? What things are they teaching you kids in high school nowadays? Its really odd that for you, providing evidence during a debate isn’t necessary. Evidence is key
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:29 AM
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What data? You havent provided any data dude. You didn’t even know that court data can be used to create statistics and notice patterns. Literally upset at things you don’t understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:12 AM
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“Dont need to, I’ll just keep being mad at things I’m making tf up” You must be in high school hahahah got 0 clue of how anything works
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:08 AM
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Just read some stats bro. You’re mad at nothing and incapable of providing evidence. Manosphere brainrot not rooted in reality. Focus on men actually taking care of their children. You dont care ab children at all, you just got odd misogynistic revenge fantasies, like all incels on this sub.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:06 AM
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It just doesn’t really happen like you think it does. This is all just manosphere algorithms making you mad over a non issue. It’s a much bigger issue men not paying for child support at all. Sadly you’re not interested in actual data. You’ve made up your mind before thinking critically. Another victim of anti intellectualism. Sad
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 01:03 AM
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Family court hearings are open to the public
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:57 AM
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The data can be accessed, you just wont find their personal information. You dont need to know the lives of the people going through the situations, you just need the outcomes and if theres a trend
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:54 AM
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There’s organizations that do that for you.. you can find patterns in data. You dont have to pull millions of cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:51 AM
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One case isn’t data. You have to look at the trends on cumulative data.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:49 AM
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Women don’t stay home anymore. Most households have two incomes. It’s not the 50s. Nowadays women are working full time AND going home to do all of that stuff. Women are tired after work too, yet they still do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:48 AM
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It’s not true. People get their kids taken away if they do drugs. If theyre divorced parents and a parent has drugs, they will literally step in and take the child away from the druggie parent. Please read facts. Your biased Instagram algorithm isn’t data.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:47 AM
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The point is that women are usually the primary caregivers. Fathers don’t braid their daughters hair, don’t remember their kids birthdays, shoe sizes. All these little details to keep the family running, such as planning vacations and organizing birthdays parties are done by the mother. This stuff gets taken into account by family court.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:44 AM
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That’s literally not true. If men fight for full custody and they have a good reason for it (neglect, substance abuse) they WILL get full custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:42 AM
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Joint custody means shared custody. Is it bad to split time with the children? Courts will look at who is the primary caregiver (usually the woman) and assign time based on that. Maybe men should step it up and braid their daughters hair once in a while. Either way, most custody cases don’t even go to court. You’re talking as if this is a horrible problem breaking society apart when most of the time parents divorce and try to make it work as best for their children because they both love them, a…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:41 AM
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What about the other 75 to 80 percent?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:38 AM
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Men don’t fight for custody. Most custody cases are solved amicably, and men are more than happy to only see their child on the weekends
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:37 AM
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Yes. When men fight for custody, they usually win. The issue is that men don’t fight for custody. But to answer your question, YES. Data shows that they do get custody when they ask for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:36 AM
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The father can take the child and get child support from the mother. It’s very hard as it is to get child support.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:33 AM
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The father can always take the custody of the child and get child support from the mother. Again, family courts focus FIRST on the child’s wellbeing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:32 AM
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Why would they excuse the mother? Family courts focus on what’s best for the child. It’s not good for the child’s wellbeing to have one parent locked up if the child’s not even being neglected. They would just reduce the payment or change custody.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:30 AM
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Then go convince men in this situation to pursue those charges
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:28 AM
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Because these are negligible. It’s up to the baby daddy to go to court and get her in trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:26 AM
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She definitely could. Larceny or theft
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:25 AM
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Her baby daddy could use that video to get her in trouble. Save it and go to court. Whats your outrage about?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:24 AM
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What facts though? I am asking you to provide a morsel of evidence so we have backing on the real world and you refuse to. You obviously WANT TO be mad about something you don’t even have facts on. Keep being mad about numbers you don’t know.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:18 AM
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This isn’t something you can just see while going outside. If you’re going to propose laws, you need to back your arguments up. You’d just go tell your representatives “uhh farah fawcett?” You’re not fit for debate. Learn better. If you just want to confirm your manufactured outrage, go ahead. I’m in this sub to have actual debate, not walk someone through the basics of dialogue. Take a communications course.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:14 AM
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If you claim something happens you gotta provide proof. Learn how to debate, this is a debate sub. In debate, when you make a claim, you have to provide evidence for it. That’s how debate works.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:10 AM
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What cases? You only named Farah Fawcett. Saying random names isn’t providing cases. If you make a claim that something happens, you need to provide proof for it. Naming random celebrities isn’t naming a case.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:08 AM
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It depends on locality, but you can definitely get in trouble for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:07 AM
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You can already file a motion with family court with evidence of misuse of funds
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/25 12:03 AM
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It is already punished if the child is neglected. You’re making a big deal out of nothing
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:57 PM
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How do you check if funds are misappropriated? If the child is getting what it needs, theyre not being misappropriated
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:57 PM
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You didnt give any examples, you just named people. Where’s the proof of Farah Fawcett doing that? There’s no evidence for it. The person who makes a claim has the burden of proof. You don’t know one of the most basic law principles and here you are pretending to know what youre talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 11:56 PM
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What would be the probable cause for the arrest? There’s already jail for child neglect. If the child has their needs met and the child support payments are happening, how are you going to decide that the recipient isnt using the money for the child and is using it on themselves? If the child isn’t getting food, clothing, or housing that is ALREADY punishable.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:45 PM
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What cases though? When and where is this happening? Did you see it on TikTok?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:43 PM
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How would you enforce that? When you can barely enforce the payments happening in the first place lol
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:42 PM
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There are many cases of a lot of things. That doesn’t mean it’s a widespread issue. It’s a non issue. Men not paying child support is a much much more bigger issue
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:38 PM
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What makes you think they’re spending it on themselves? It’s like $200 or so. Nobodys doing much with that. It’s a much bigger issue how many deadbeat dads there are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:34 PM
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Not really. the world is filled with deadbeat dads that neglect their own children without any accountability for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/25 09:32 PM
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Weird incel revenge fantasy. People fall in and out of love and pair up like normal out in the real world
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 10:12 PM
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Too much porn dude
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:36 PM
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Nice fantasy. Did you cum?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/10/25 07:35 PM
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I’m not saying that. I said sex is never a given. You don’t owe your partner sex. Read the comment again
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:26 AM
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You’re responding to the wrong person
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/25 03:20 AM
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There’s a lot of nuance. Aura and confidence matter. There’s a creepy vibe that even hot guys can have if they don’t carry themselves well.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/25 12:14 PM
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Hot guys can def be creepy and make girls uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate15/09/25 01:47 AM
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Yes you’re right, but there’s still a baseline of hotness and aura
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 03:39 PM
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Only works if you’re hot
/r/PurplePillDebate14/09/25 08:02 AM
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They give a fuck about what shes done but not enough to stop simping, is my point. Men are the romantic ones
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 11:13 PM
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If someone doesn’t feel like they’re “getting” what they deserve they simply can move on. If a girl is ugly, not interesting, unpleasant, and on top of all that she expects you to dance like a monkey and you think she’s not all that, then don’t do it. When a man really likes a woman, he does not give a FUCK about what she’s done or what she expects. Men get fixated on a woman and they’ll do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/09/25 03:59 AM
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What’s common knowledge is men NOT paying child support. Also, mandated payments are low as fuck. Only in incels fantasies women get lots and lots from child support lol its the opposite.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 03:38 PM
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That’s pretty fringe, don’t you think? there are plenty of women who enjoy the kink community. I don’t know why you’re pretending like women aren’t sexual and coomer minded. Just not as much as men, but it isnt black and white
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:59 AM
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I’m a real life woman and I’m into that. I don’t think it’s out of the ordinary either. I’m sure it’s way more common than you think, at least fantasizing about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:41 AM
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I want it and towards more than one oftentimes. Women cheat too
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:22 AM
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I wouldn’t mind a gangbang with a bunch of hot guys. There’s holes in your theory
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/25 05:20 AM
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Expectations change with experience
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 09:50 PM
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Omg ahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 09:04 PM

The women that are careless about who they reproduce with, will be so one way or another. Careful women don’t get themselves in those situations. But if the child exists, it needs to be taken care of. The state doesn’t want to pay for men’s irresponsibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:20 PM
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Pregnancies are pretty apparent. Idk if you’re aware
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:01 PM

You’re a known schizo on this sub lol. Only in your delusions you’re “destroying feminists”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:30 PM

Your solution just results in millions of kids that now are the responsibility of the state. If you’re married but don’t want kids, you should still put a condom on. It’s simple
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:29 PM
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If she’s pregnant and he knows it might be his, there is legal recourse for him to take responsibility. Men just really like not taking responsibility for their own sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:28 PM

It’s not. As the sperm carrier, you have control over it. There isn’t an equivalent to abortion for men because men can’t get pregnant. It’s not a matter of bodily autonomy. You keep trying to make it the same, but it isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 01:27 PM

Do you jerk off to their videos? Just curious
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:18 AM

I’m down
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:17 AM

Lauren Sanchez is an older single mom and look who she bagged. Your revenge fantasies aren’t based on reality
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:14 AM

Don’t creampie. Easy. What do men think its gonna happen if they nut inside? So weird
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 05:03 AM

Put a condom on. Why can’t men take responsibility for their sperm?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:54 AM
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He could keep track of where he nuts. If he fucked a girl raw and shes got a child 9 months later, he could reach out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:53 AM

If the dad is the primary caregiver, he can also get welfare
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:49 AM

Pulling fax out of your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 04:44 AM
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Your own link and quote says they are less likely to SAY they are looking for relationships/casual date. I know you really, really want MGTOW to be a worldwide movement and the evil women to suffer. But undesirable men have always been undesirable. They can cope all they want saying “im not looking” but it isn’t as if anyones looking for them or considering them. Their “disappearance” from the dating pool isn’t noticed by anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:31 AM
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It’s just a matter of going outside and having a modicum of social life. The hikikomori are undesirables who are already not considered in the dating pool. Normal people are still pursuing, dating, getting married, etc. “Checking out” or whatever you want to call it is not a permanent condition. It’s not like a vow or celibacy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/09/25 03:30 AM
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Self reporting is copium. Again, put a girl in front of them and they’ll switch up real quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:51 PM
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That link doesn’t say what you’re saying. And it’s self reported. Again, copium
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 12:50 PM
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Those men are interested. They just don’t get much or a chance. Let’s get real. They’ll switch up quick if a willing girl shows up. All copium. It’s a biological fact that men are the pursuers and women are the choosers. You can say I’m wrong and pull stats out of your ass all the time, but MGTOW isn’t happening nor will it happen because the urge to reproduce is a biological reality, and there’s more sperm than eggs to go around.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 04:27 AM
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They’re not moving on. Men are still pursuing and simping. MGTOW is a fringe online movement with coping undesirables. Women don’t court men. Men are the pursuers. This is biological. The stakes are higher for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:49 AM
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Itsthatbad is one of them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/25 01:45 AM
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When you like someone, doing nice things doesnt feel like being a dancing monkey. If you feel that way, you dont like them that much and its better to move on
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 06:05 PM
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Ive gotten banned from manosphere subs lol
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:42 AM
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Then if we’re too picky and expect a dancing monkey, they get mad There’s no winning
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/25 03:38 AM
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Sure it’s an ego thing, but that’s after some sort of interaction. What I mean is that people can’t KNOW you find them hot without some sort of interaction
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 05:33 PM
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That or something else. But it isn’t just you finding them hot that made them mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 02:22 PM
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Nobody can read minds to know you find them attractive. For someone to notice that, something else mustve happened. People get mad when they get stared at
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:16 AM
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Strawman. I didn’t say that. People don’t get mad cuz someone finds them attractive. Usually women want as many people as possible to find them attractive. It’s another factor that makes them mean like that. Getting approached by such a guy, or stared at.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:08 AM
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You mustve been staring
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/25 12:04 AM
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Nobody does that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 11:58 PM
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You can stare at my ass, I won’t notice it. It’s possible to check people out without being too obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:23 PM
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Men breed opportunistically. A good chunk would cheat if they had the chance for sure
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 09:05 PM
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So then they’re not sacrificing their happiness for their family if they’re abandoning it like that lol
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:44 PM
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I haven’t heard that. But I’ve heard lots about men leaving their wife and family for a younger woman. What do you think that means?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 08:42 PM
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Bet
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 04:10 PM
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It’s not though. Some people regardless of attractiveness think more deeply about things than others. I’m attractive and I benefit from it but I’m still aware of those things, which is why I’m on this sub, like you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 04:09 PM
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Extremely
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 04:05 PM
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Most people don’t think deeply about much though. They operate on a different wavelength. There’s a lot to unpack before being willing to have this conversation. People just like others and it either works or it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:59 PM
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People aren’t thinking about these things consciously though. An average normie person isn’t obsessing over smv or psl scale
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:41 PM
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I don’t mind people finding me hot if I don’t find them hot, but the ones I’m not attracted to aren’t my focus
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:38 PM
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Pretty much. There’s nuance to it though
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:37 PM
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What are those
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:34 PM
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Nobody gets angry if you look. Nobody notices looking. It’s staring that makes people uncomfortable
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:33 PM
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Not if you look, but if you stare
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:30 PM
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Yes of course. I want the men who I find hot to find me hot duh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 03:28 PM
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In your fantasies only. This doesn’t really happen
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 01:13 AM
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Because men are too lazy to do the paperwork
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/25 12:31 AM
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Yes, they do. You’re just biased. Men can do no wrong and are always level headed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 05:28 PM
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Surely men on here are stoic, rational beings who never lash out or argue in bad faith?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/25 03:30 PM
1

Brand new account too
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:34 AM
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It’s a man. Read his comments. Hes larping as a woman for some reason
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 01:17 AM
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You’re weird asf for larping as a woman hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 12:57 AM
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If they’re not adding any “real value” to a man’s life, why are they going after them then?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/25 12:55 AM
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Men barely pay child support nowadays. Nobodys getting princess treatment lol. Alimony isnt common at all
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 10:56 PM
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You can’t get an abortion a few years after the child is born, in case you didn’t know. If a divorce happens, the kids have to be dealt with.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 09:27 PM
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Well it’s a debate post about prostitution and I made a comment to open up a discussion about the ethics of it. If you don’t think there’s any ethics to be discussed about it then leave lol. I’m not a minarchist or anything so I don’t think it’s a choice the same way I don’t think selling your kidney is a choice. It’s coercion by the circumstances. I believe that people seeking those services are people who don’t care about mutual desire or consent, and instead put their lustful needs above any …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 08:18 PM
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It’s inherently exploitative though. It’s not a simple or even exchange. It’s as much of an exchange as selling your organs. The context of those situations is always poverty, desperation, and exploitation, even if it’s an exchange on paper. People aren’t just numbers on paper. There’s a human factor to this. Instead of getting triggered by the word “rape” why don’t you address the ethics of having sex with someone that is hating the interaction and getting long term negative effects from it? Do…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 08:07 PM
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It is paying to rape someone, and consent isn’t something that can be purchased. What you can purchase is the fantasy of consent and desire, at the expense of someone’s mental health, sense of self and safety, etc. If you want to break down the philosophy of that I’m down. That’s why I made the comment on a debate sub, because I’m open to debate. But I don’t have it in me to get into an insulting match with someone who doesn’t know me, and that I don’t know. Molly isn’t a hard drug at all btw. O…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:37 PM
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You haven’t. You address strawmen that only exist in your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:16 PM
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Show me where I said: “If money is involved, then women can’t consent” “Most women are trafficked” And yes I think its super rapey. Not surprising that a manosphere follower disagrees with the idea that having sex with someone that doesn’t want to have sex with you is rapey. But you could debate the merits of those points by addressing them instead of jumping to strawmen. Stop saying I said things I never said. You have plenty to work with already, no need to fight arguments i didnt make.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:15 PM
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Show me exactly where I said those things lmao you argue like a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:13 PM
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Getting zooted during the weekend aint hurting anyone. Sorry you’re a square. Not me. I like expanding my mind and having sex with people who want to have sex with me. I know you can’t relate
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:12 PM
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They can participate in it if they want. I’m not saying it should be illegal. Are you incapable of arguing without strawmen? I’m discussing ethics, not law. If you’re “purchasing consent” you have a rapey mindset. If you’re fucking someone you know is hating every second of it, you have a rapey mindset. Paying for it like purchasing a product doesn’t erase that part regardless of how much it hurts pathetic Johns.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:09 PM
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They obviously aren’t people who give a fuck about consent or mutual enjoyment if they don’t care about whether the woman they’re fucking want to fuck them or if she’s dissociating waiting for it to be over. Sorry if that hit a nerve. Data isn’t an echo chamber. I understand that the reality of the situation is too heavy for you. Gooning has your brain melted. Cope.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:05 PM
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Sorry your worldview is so limited you can’t comprehend the context of prostitution. I mean, you jumped to OF models as if most prostitutes aren’t marginalized women in the global south. Keep cooming to OF girlies nobodys gonna rip that off your hands
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 07:00 PM
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No that’s not what I’m saying. If you can’t debate without strawmen, just downvote and move on. OF creators aren’t the majority of sex workers worldwide. They dont represent the reality of sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 06:58 PM
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That’s the strawman you made. Not my argument. If you’re incapable of engaging in a good faith argument without fallacies, idk why you try lol
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:28 AM
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You could say the same thing about people selling their organs though. It’s not just “a choice” when the context for this exchange is coercion and exploitation. Most sex workers worldwide are in that situation. I’m not saying it should be illegal. That’s a strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/25 12:03 AM
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It’s also a “simple transaction between two consenting adults” to sell a kidney, yet it’s illegal in most of the world because of the exploitative context of such a transaction.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 11:33 PM
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It’s not a “simple service” your argument ignores context and nuance. The entitlement is incels saying that prostitution should be allowed, encouraged, etc just bc they NEED to get their dick wet. They don’t gaf about the known risks and consequences of prostitution. They dont even gaf that the woman is dissociating hoping the time is over and then going home to cry lol
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 10:39 PM
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High demand doesn’t justify exploitation. Just because there’s demand for something doesn’t mean it’s ethical to force or pressure people into supplying it, it also doesn’t mean it’s an actual need. Human trafficking is very profitable, but high demand doesn’t make it morally acceptable. Sex work under poverty overlaps with coercion, stigma, and violence. Supply meets demand doesn’t erase these issues. just join millions of men Men can just ignore they have kids and leave the mother to figure it…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 06:16 PM
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but it is a psychological need People desiring sex doesn’t mean society is obligated to provide it through an industry that commodifies other peoples bodies and consent. Again, we don’t create an “affection” industry just bc lots of people are lonely and want affection. Feeling desired isn’t a “right” that others must fulfill as labor. And even if you pay, they don’t desire you, they don’t want you. They cry themselves to sleep at night after being touched by you. Men truly dont gaf about anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 05:12 PM
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Sex isn’t a need for anyone. You’re not gonna die without it. Meeting that desire through paid labor isn’t an essential service in the same way food, clothing or shelter are. We don’t say that because people want companionship, we need a companionship industry where workers marry for pay. Framing sex as a “need” is used to justify normalizing an industry that thrives on people who don’t want to be there. Saying it’s a “free choice” ignores that most women who enter sex work worldwide are funnele…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:30 PM
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Not at all. Lots of femboys on the streets selling their hole
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:17 PM
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Men can and do become prostitutes.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:16 PM
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There are situations that push women to sell their body. The Global South isn’t booming with well paying jobs for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 04:04 PM
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Factory work is risky, but it produces things society needs (food, clothes, tech, etc). Sex work isnt directly comparable bc its risks aren’t rooted in a “lack of safety standards” but more in power imbalances and how the industry thrives in poverty, traumatized, disenfranchised young girls, and coercion. Even with regulations, many of those harms remain. Saying “if she had money, she wouldn’t do it” is basically admitting it’s not a free choice but instead an act of economic desperation. That’s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 03:54 PM
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It’s a pattern though. It’s almost guaranteed you’ll get PTSD if you do sex work.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:52 PM
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I’m not saying whether it’s feminist or not, I’m saying the particular flavor I see from people far removed from the realities of sex work as it is in the majority of the world, is always the “choice” stuff along with terrible takes. Consent can’t be purchased, just faked. The majority of sex workers worldwide are from vulnerable and marginalized populations. It’s an industry that chews you up and spits you out. Leaving women with trauma, all sorts of emotional issues, and that’s if they’re luck…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 02:00 PM
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Choice feminism has rotted the brains of women in first world countries. Reducing consent and women’s intimacy to a COMMODITY isn’t feminism. We all know all the insane trauma, pain, risks that come with that profession, and we all know they’re not gonna put that on their resume or encourage their kids to do it. You walk down the red light district and the vibes are always atrocious, with lots of human trafficking and men happy to see women as pieces of meat. The rhetoric around being entitled t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 01:49 PM
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My point isn’t about whether prostitution should be legal or not. My concern is about the rhetoric of entitlement to sex and how it dehumanizes women. That commodification rhetoric. Sex with another human isn’t an item.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 01:42 PM
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Pointing out the dehumanization and commodification of women in these conversations isn’t wanting to control women’s autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 01:41 PM
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Babysitting isn’t the same as fucking someone. Nobody gets PTSD from a babysitting job. Be for real
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 01:40 PM
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Choice feminism is brainrot. A woman wouldn’t make that choice in circumstances where she could just have the money, it’s a “career” with insane risk for trauma and pain. Look at most sex workers worldwide.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 01:39 PM
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Sex isn’t a service
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 01:38 PM
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Waiting on tables is different from getting up and personal with someone sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 06:31 AM
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You’re not entitled to “purchase” a woman for a little bit. Men being lonely doesn’t entitle them to the commodification of women. This mindset is why yall lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/25 06:29 AM
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Those types of conservative women like to be outspoken and “working mothers” while they tell women that they should be submissive and stay at home with lots of kids. They’re hypocrites and act very masculine according to their own standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/25 03:45 PM
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the brain is a physical organ and was created by nature Yes, but that doesnt mean that every thought or social construct is determined by biology in a rigid way. The complexity of the brain allows for reflection and innovation. It allows us to override biological impulses and tendencies. Something originating in biology doesnt mean its fixed or unchangeable. Although culture operates within some biological and environmental constraints, these constraints are broad and allow for so much flexibili…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/25 12:04 AM
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Biology alone doesn’t determine power relations or social organization. Human intelligence and culture mediate and override biological impulses… Our brains evolved to enable culture, but culture ITSELF operates with autonomy. Social systems are made from collective meanings and institutions, not biology. Culture isnt just an output from biology, thats extremely reductive, ignoring how ideas and history shape human behavior independently. Environmental pressures influence biology over a looong ti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 11:11 PM
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Saying patriarchy is “biological” just because most societies are patriarchal is circular reasoning without proving causation. It could be historical inertia, social power consolidation, or ecological factors, not genetics. Comparing it to snakes is ignoring that “patriarchy” as a social system is a complex human cultural pattern, not a species classification. The examples you dismiss as “insignificant” are important exceptions that show that variability exists, enough to challenge the idea of b…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 08:14 PM
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Social structures like patriarchy and purity culture are cultural adaptations that vary a lot. Even with genetically similar people. Biology doesnt dictate a fixed outcome here. I guess you could say that buildings and agent orange are “products of biology” simply because we made them. There’s no variability across cultures There IS significant variability across cultures when it comes to sexual norms actually lmao. To say there isnt ignores the ethnographic record that shows a wide spectrum of …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 07:30 PM
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Biological adaptations enabled the complex societies we have, yes, but the SPECIFIC social structures like patriarchy and patrilineality are cultural outcomes, not inevitable products of biology. Your argument is making patriarchy the starting point for purity norms without explaining the variability across cultures for views and attitudes on female sexuality. Biology alone doesnt fully account for what you consider an “instinctive disgust”. Culture shapes these things. Everything I mention here…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 07:02 PM
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Your claim isn’t testable the way you frame it. If a society has purity norms, you say its because of investment + biology. If it doesnt, you say its bc of low investment or rarity. So there’s no possible existing observation that could prove your claim wrong. Its circular. Common ≠ biologically inevitable. Patriarchy’s dominance in the historical record has lots to do w agriculture, property… this created environments for male power to consolidate. Agriculture and warfare give men structural ad…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 06:09 PM
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You keep trying to reframe every possible example to make it fit your main claim. The point is that the generalization of investment > purity obsession has exceptions. A society being matrilineal isn’t irrelevant. Remember that your initial claim was: “in societies where males have a significant amount of investment in a child, paternity seems to be a big concern” Trobriand men DO invest heavily in children. The fact that they invest in kin without obsessing over womens sexuality shows that high…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 05:24 PM

You shifted your disease avoidance point away from STIs which was highly implied, to general disease. And it still doesn’t work. You’re pulling hypotheses out of your ass. For something to exert strong evolutionary pressure, it has to be common, lethal, and unavoidable. Even with treponema-like infections from prehistoric times, in small groups a pathogen like that would flare up and then disappear instead of persisting for centuries. Anthropologists don’t treat STIs as a driver of prehistoric m…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 03:14 PM
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I’m not gonna get baited into “if you can’t name 5 right now, I win” the burden of proof is on you if you’re the one that’s claiming that “in societies where males invest heavily in children, paternity concern and purity preferences are strong”. The existence of exceptions collapses this rule. A google search is easy. Trobriand Islanders have significant male investment in children and promiscuity is accepted. The Hazda in Tanzania have men providing significant resources yet premarital sex is c…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 02:15 PM

It is such bullshit. And it is almost exclusively used to justify misogyny.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 02:09 PM

STIs were not a major constant killer in prehistory. Syphilis and ghonorrea have existed only for a few thousand years. And in small, low density prehistoric groups, stis wouldnt have been able to persist at all because they require a large host population to maintain transmission cycles. Evolutionary pressures for disease exist for widespread LETHAL pathogens. STIs dont fit that bill. For disease avoidant to be such a strong driver as you say, you’d see selection making us avoid ANYONE who seem…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 02:07 PM
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You moved the goalpost, now you’re making it a conditional claim. You went from “purity preference is an evolved universal” to “purity preference is a situational tendency that emerges when male investment is high”. Frequency ≠ universality. The fact that most societies in the ethnographic record are patriarchal doesnt mean that’s our “natural state”. It’s just historical contingency. Our anthropological records is extremely biased towards recent agricultural and state societies, which are usual…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 02:48 AM
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A true evolutionary adaptation should be consistently expressed across environments and easily triggered. The existence of this cross cultural variation shows that culture plays an important role. There is a capacity for mate guarding behavior, but its not a strong, universal preference for “purity”. If the reality you claim is actually universal, those partible paternity cultures would still have male discomfort, jealousy, issues… but they don’t. Evolutionary pressures don’t operate in a vaccum…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 02:23 AM
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This evo devo pseudoscience ignores a lot of important context and oversimplifies human behavior and preferences. And it always just serves as validation for men’s biases. “Purity” and paternity certainty isn’t valued the same way in all societies. There’s a lot of cross cultural variation. It’s not uniform. One thing existing in different societies doesn’t mean its an evolutionary adaptation. The information we have actually points to it being cultural convergence.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 02:02 AM
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People aren’t cars. I wonder why men are incapable of making arguments without reducing women to objects.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 01:21 AM
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What about is is biological?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/25 01:19 AM
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OkCupid isn’t valid data. It doesn’t say anything about women at large because its not data collected correctly. Maybe when you get to 10th grade you might get it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/25 07:19 AM
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If you’re a retard with no understanding of statistics sure. For simple minded people I understand it. But for people with a modicum of knowledge, it isnt
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 03:42 PM
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It’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/25 01:37 AM
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Your definition of “the statistics” is doing too much heavy lifting. OkCupid data isn’t “the statistics”.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/25 03:26 PM
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That’s not right to do with one’s body. Men really don’t care about their woman enjoying sex? You don’t mind it if the whole time she’s forcing herself and hoping its over soon? Then they wonder why we call them rapey lol
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 11:36 PM
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I’m hurt now? proceeds to type out wall of text What exactly are you trying to do here? I never said I will believe that “most women X” if they show me a Reddit post. I said I’ll take anything you can use to BACK that claim. You can explain to me how a Reddit post talking about one woman backs a claim that MOST women X. Again I’ll take it for discussion but have some intellectual integrity lol you know full well a Reddit post isnt evidence for anything. Would you be this mad too if you had sent …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 10:03 PM
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Hyperbole, not strawman. I see that that it hurts you a lot that I’m not going to take a Reddit post as concrete evidence for such a claim. You wouldn’t either, but your bias won’t allow you to see that. Again, for the third time, I will take it as a point of discussion worth noting because it is a belief, but to say “most women X” and hope people accept it, you need real data. It’s just the correct way to make arguments.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 09:49 PM
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I will take that as proof to start a discussion. But I will not take a Reddit post as proof that all women bad. I’m sorry if that makes you cry and scream YOU LIAR YOU LIAR SEE SEE? WOMEN ARE BAD I HATE WOMEN.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 05:22 PM
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It wasn’t a lie. Why are you so upset? I will take that link, it’s just not good proof, I’m sorry. Reddit posts aren’t data. But like I said somewhere else, I won’t discard it completely. It’s worth discussing.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 05:14 PM
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Anecdotes aren’t proof of what most women do, sorry to tell you that’s not how data collection works. We can use seething Reddit posts as an example and discuss it as a phenomenon that is true and happens, but it’s important to maintain intellectual integrity when making absolute statements. I don’t know what’s got you so upset and defensive that you’re arguing in such bad faith. If I send you a link from r/IHateMen as proof of why all men do X, will you honestly say you will take that as defini…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 05:10 PM
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Asking for clarification can be part of a discussion, but I already stated my point about domestic labor being unfairly distributed and you keep responding with layered questions instead of taking a stance and without sharing your view at all. You’re hiding behind “innocent” questions as a tactic. It’s not a balanced discussion. If you’re just asking trap questions over and over and avoiding making your point, its not a discussion anymore. I explained my point multiple times and you’ve offered n…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 05:08 PM
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How does your citation demonstrate that “most women are usually the ones who are rarely content with what they have”. Anecdotes aren’t proof of what most women do. I don’t deny this reality, but to make such absolute statements one should have some solid proof. I scrolled up though and you’re right. I got lost in the topic since the main discussion is about withholding sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:52 PM
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You’re not “asking questions to understand”, you’re leading me down a rhetorical path without showing your cards. That’s not a discussion. You’re playing quizmaster controlling the conversation. Say your point straight up so we can debate like adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:50 PM
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I am willing to entertain an anecdote, my issue with the link is that I didn’t see anywhere that her bitchy wife is withholding sex to get what she wants? (Greater and more expensive things) Financial incompatibility is a leading cause of divorce. People need to marry people with similar views on money.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:38 PM
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This claim: “most women are usually the ones who are rarely content with what they have, even if its enough to survive and live off of. They still dream of bigger and better things and that means pushing their husbands to reach their goals.”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:36 PM
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We can have a discussion, but this format where you ask all of the questions isn’t very productive. I’d prefer it if you said what your point is and we go back and forth like that instead of treating me like a retard
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 04:35 PM
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I agree. I believe this is a discussion couples need to have. If you’re having too many “headaches”, there’s a deeper issue. But it’s not that the woman is withholding sex out of spite, it’s just that there’s something much deeper going on thats making her not feel horny for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 05:43 AM
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You do, but you’re not always entitled to sex. Sometimes people don’t want to fuck, and you have to respect that. If you love someone, you wouldn’t want to fuck them when they dont want to fuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 05:14 AM
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I personally wouldn’t mind it if my partner has fun with other girls if he craves more than I can/want to give him. I understand that many men find themselves between a rock and a hard place in that situation. For me his loyalty would be more in unconditional love and support rather than keeping leashed a very human urge.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/25 05:00 AM
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Women don’t work? It’s not the 50s dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:14 PM
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What is this ridiculous socratic discussion? Just say what you want to say. I’m willing to go down any logical path you want and discuss that but this argument format is ridiculous. It’s not a Q & A.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:13 PM
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Of course I do. You see sex as one of those things couples do for each other to show affection, and it is, but it’s never a given. As a partner you also have to understand and respect their boundaries and that they aren’t always in the mood. Sex should come naturally, it’s not a chore or a carrot to dangle in front of your partner. When people do that, it’s a symbol of deeper issues in the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:12 PM
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Where does it say that she’s withholding sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 04:10 PM
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I’ll take anything that you can use to back that claim
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:54 AM
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You shouldn’t have sex if you’re not in the mood for it. Why do that to yourself? It’s supposed to be a fun, shared activity, not a chore. Women aren’t horny and still deciding not to fuck you as a plot for a greater goal. They’re just not horny. It means something deeper. Women don’t go from 0 to 100 like men. Arousal works differently for each.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:52 AM
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Because nowadays women are also working full time jobs. It’s unfair. They’re also tired after work.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:49 AM
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I see where you’re going, but sex is just part of a whole package. If your partner doesn’t want to have sex with you, there are deeper issues that need to be addressed.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:48 AM
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Sure, it’s worth discussing, but the manosphere gets too dogmatic with it when it’s not unbiased data.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:46 AM
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If you don’t see the point, then don’t get married. Easy
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/25 09:45 AM
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But show the proof lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:22 PM
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Yes for sure. But that depends on the individual. You shouldnt marry someone you’re financially incompatible with.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:22 PM
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The things people owe in a relationship. There isn’t anything women or men owe in particular. Love, attention, understanding etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:20 PM
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If you both live in the same house you should both take care of the house. Women do more of the domestic labor in most households.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 11:19 PM
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Oh yea men aren’t greedy or want better for themselves. I do think that women should avoid men who never want better for themselves and like to stay in the same state their whole lives.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 08:21 PM
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God forbid they pull their weight for domestic labor. Women aren’t sitting around at home nowadays. Most households are two income households. Women have careers too, it’s not the 50s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 06:29 PM
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Both partners share their wealth. It’s for a life together.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 06:26 PM
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Nobody owes anyone their body. You should be in a relationship because you love, enjoy, and appreciate someone. Want to work together for common goals and have a happy, shared life.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 05:13 PM
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You don’t marry someone to get something out of them. You marry them because you love them and enjoy their company, want to see them be happy, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 05:12 PM
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It never seems to occur to men that women sometimes aren’t in the mood to have sex. Women don’t owe men sex, not even in a relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:35 PM
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OkCupid data isn’t a study. I don’t know why you people treat it as a law of physics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:26 PM
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Sexual attraction goes way beyond looks. Sexual compatibility matters more than initial attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/25 04:26 PM
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Late term abortions are because of medical emergencies. Nobody spends months pregnant for funsies. It’s really unpleasant and hard on the body.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 02:03 PM
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Nobody goes through the months of pain a pregnancy is to simply change their mind on a whim and get an abortion last minute.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:24 AM
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Why are you using this post as a chance to spread propaganda? Capitalism only works for the Global North.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/25 07:21 AM

Im right, Chud
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:42 AM
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If you didn’t know her, you wouldn’t know. Women’s sex lives don’t end after children. It snaps back to a normal size.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:08 AM
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No it’s not. You’re referring to a hypothetical childhood developmental response, not a universal truth of all women. If you’re going to use outdated pseudoscience to validate your misogyny, at least read up on what you’re claiming to know about.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 02:06 AM
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What do you know? You’re making a post out of bullshit oudated myths, not anything scientific.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:52 AM
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No it’s not. You’re way off base
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:52 AM
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That’s not what Freud said lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:49 AM
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It snaps back to normal
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/25 01:49 AM
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We have the same type😝
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 11:57 PM

You’re tweaking out about women wearing makeup and creating your own reality around it, refusing to hear counterpoints.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:26 PM

That was your whole reply to the comment. A one liner. And you did that throughout this post. You have a pattern of personal attacks and then come out here to complain that “women bad”. Again, if you’re not looking to debate and instead need someone to validate your misogynistic delusions, there are plenty of incel circlejerk subs for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:23 PM

To this comment: Did you not write, and I quote, "[w]omen understand that men, being visual creatures, generally find women with some amount of makeup more attractive than without"? I don't think your premise is accurate for two reasons: (1) I don't think all women (or even a majority of women) think makeup makes them more attractive to men, and (2) I don't think all men (or even a majority of men) generally find women who wear makeup more attractive. I think both of your implicit claims are bas…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 08:08 PM

There are a few making well thought-out arguments and you’re just insulting them. Why do you go to a debate sub? Go to a circlejerk sub instead where everyone just agrees with you. You’re not here to debate in good faith.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 07:27 PM
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Just look at an actual study. It’s fine to challenge your bias, that’s how we grow.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:18 PM
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Yea I have no experience traveling for cheap prostitutes. I’m glad for that
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 04:07 PM
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Ohhh you’re a sex tourist. It all makes sense. Desperate women in third world countries aren’t a representative of women’s behaviors. But if you think those are actually attracted to you and that counts as raw desire/hook ups, keep on being delusional.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:57 PM
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“Common sense” has been used to justify the idea that the sun revolves around the Earth. I think you’re the one that has an emotional attachment to that data, so much so that you’re willing to throw away actual rigorous, representative science with good methodology, sample sizes, control groups, etc. just because that would make your “science” even more bunk.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:55 PM
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Even with p-hacking and replication issues, peer-reviewed studies still have a defined methodology, statistical rigor and reproducibility.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:50 PM
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You’re lying dude. Be for real. Throughout my adult life, men have tried to hook up with me asap. The chances are there, my willingness (or my friends) is not. Whenever stuff like that happens it’s because they’re really, really drunk and easier to take home. Then the next day they regret it. Sad that you need to pick up drunk women in order to get a shred of pussy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:47 PM
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It’s a feelz thing for you. You incels hold on to that OkCupid stuff like it’s a scientific study lmao it’s not
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:45 PM

You do. Women don’t want to fuck a man instantly just because he looks appealing.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:41 PM
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From a boomer dating app. For a study, data needs to be collected in a particular way. Where’s the control group here?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:38 PM
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Yea, the OkCupid stuff put into a book. That’s not a study.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:34 PM

Not only good looking / hot men experience that. It’s more likely for those to experience that, the same way hotter women are more likely to experience simping, but all sorts of people have fwb.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:30 PM

That OkCupid article isn’t data, it isn’t a study.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/25 03:28 PM
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What are you talking about? It is well known that people with emotional issues stemming from childhood abuse, neglect, inconsistent parenting, etc usually date other people like that because they can’t recognize what’s a good and healthy partner, and if they meet one, they don’t keep them because a healthy person just doesn’t put up with that toxicity, it’s not a match.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 07:23 PM
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Abusive isn’t just violence. People get into relationships with all sorts of emotional issues and it turns toxic because they don’t have a good foundation. They also attract each other and enable each other’s bad behaviors.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 06:11 PM
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Live a little. A boring, uneventful life is not worth living
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 05:12 PM
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What are you talking about hahaha I’ve never been in an abusive relationship or anything of the sort. That’s just broken people like you who attract each other. If you actually got parental love etc you get in normal relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/25 03:17 AM
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When the types of people who post about how hard it is to get pussy also talk about state mandated girlfriends or how evil women are for not choosing them, there’s an underlying sense of entitlement and bitterness.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 07:08 PM
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You’re talking out of your ass
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:47 PM
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The sentiment that men can’t control their sexual urges is often accompanied by some woe me women are so mean for not giving me pussy bs
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 06:18 PM
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Everyone keep your teenage daughters away from Popeoath
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:48 PM
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It’s not most women. Most women aren’t fat single moms, despite what trp wants you to believe to fuel your revenge fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:45 PM
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It’s not just semantics. It’s the context and wording of everything. You don’t want to see it because you’re probably like that too. Rapey undertones
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:44 PM
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You people only focus on an archetype of broken, single woman with no boundaries or self control. Most people aren’t like that. Most women aren’t single mothers. Just because they don’t choose you doesn’t mean they choose wrong. It’s all cope
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:22 PM
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Cope. That’s the price you pay for being the sex whose reproduction is a walk in the park. There’s way more at stake for women, so we’re choosy.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:15 PM
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I don’t disagree. As a rule of thumb, yes. There’s nuance to both though. And with maturity you start wanting someone you enjoy overall and stop fixating so much on looks or status.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 05:00 PM
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That doesn’t mean women date for “basically resources”. Women dating up ≠ women dating only for resources. At this point, a guy has to have something else to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:48 PM
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Women are attracted to men but that doesn’t make them argue for “state mandated girlfriends” lol yall act entitled asf. Nobodys entitled to pussy and trying to finesse sexual access from someone reveals a deeper issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:37 PM
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There’s couples all over. Getting caught up on these issues and adding to that an entitled mentality towards women’s attention makes people undesirable. Chronically insecure and online. Nobody likes that. Sorry to say
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:31 PM
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It’s only animals that can’t control their impulses. When they get like that, they should be caged, or neutered.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:29 PM
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Aren’t women outdoing men in education, home ownership etc? What resources are men providing nowadays that makes it worth it to put up with an undesirable guy? It’s not the 50s anymore
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:29 PM
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Don’t forget about his several daughters 🤣🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:26 PM
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It is. Framing relationships as something you “get” out of someone creates these issues of entitlement.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/25 04:25 PM
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You don’t need to be snarky. We all know where meat comes from. It’s the enjoyment out of the activity that turns women off. Someone that kills animals for leisure is someone many women wouldn’t want to date, sorry that bothers you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/25 08:06 PM
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Yes But im not talking about me. Even with the cognitive dissonance, hurting animals for fun is something most women dont like.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 11:16 PM
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Men that kill/hurt animals for fun are a red flag for a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/25 10:09 PM
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Some women care. At your age you don’t have to worry about that. The lambo can also be rented. Stability matters and women like it when men can provide resources, a lambo can mean a lot of negative things about how a guy manages his assets.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 04:17 PM
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More in between. I usually like more expressive eyes and stronger nose. And around my age. The one on the left looks pretty old. I’m sure he looked alright in his 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:44 PM
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I do. Dead average is fine if they got those things. One can’t win with incels. If I said I like blonde men, then you’d say “ofc, jbw”. Nobody thinks of Indian men with “tall dark and handsome”. You know this. Aren’t they supposedly bottom of the barrel?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:35 PM
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I’m pretty inclusive if they have good styling. I like it when men know what looks good on them and style themselves accordingly. But I’m mostly drawn to levantine or indian looking men. I like the black hair, piercing eyes and strong nose.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:18 PM
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That’s not true. Tastes vary. Stop watching blackpill tiktoks…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:05 PM
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What do you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:48 PM
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The Pareto Principle is a rule of thumb, not a law. The ratios can vary. ESPECIALLY in human relationships. The OkCupid stuff is just incel fuel. Not representative of anything real. Go outside, people are dating their looksmatch often.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 02:05 PM
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It’s not a semantics issue. It’s poorly collected data from a small, not random sample. It’s poor data, not representative of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:56 PM
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It’s not a study
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:54 PM
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That’s not a well made study or anything, and it’s from years ago. You people treat it like its the laws of physics, so goofy
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 01:50 PM
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You’re bitter
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/25 03:53 AM
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An inexperienced 30yo isn’t finding himself an experienced 23yo
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 07:04 PM
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Take it easy. It’s not that serious
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 04:04 AM
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People’s standards should come from within. Do you make your choices to spite your imaginary enemies?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/25 03:58 AM
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Just need a match to your particular freak lol
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 06:09 PM
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You are right!
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 04:17 PM
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I like it when they tell me super depraved things they’ve jerked off to. It’s usually the other way around and they don’t like it. No love for actually freaky girls it seems
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:37 AM
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That would be soooo hot🥵🥵
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/25 07:36 AM
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That’s why nobody likes them, and they make up all of these stories and rationalizations in their head to explain why women don’t like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:35 PM
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Women are human beings who should be entitled to freedom to choose what to do. Fathers don’t have a “right” to control their daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:33 PM
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Or he just likes her? The hoops you people are jumping to not accept that he just likes her
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/25 08:30 PM
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Probably an old person said you look young and now you’re creating a whole movie in your head from that lmfao every grandpa that says they look college aged, doesn’t 😆🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/25 04:08 AM
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Women tend to put more effort into their appearances and anti-aging stuff, so women age better. You don’t look like a college student.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:53 PM
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That’s not true. A 19yo is not going to be more mature than a 49yo. That’s such a delusional copout to justify going after teens.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 09:52 PM
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🤣🤣🤣 for real. Seething over men being providers when they’re not even employed. Angry on behalf of men who actually provide.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 05:19 AM
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They talk about women and relationships with women as if they don’t like them. Nobodys forcing them to date or marry or impregnate women. Such hatred coming from men like Sweaty-Loan-1835.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/25 03:36 AM
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Why do modern men act as if they’re still providing financially? Most households are two income households. Very few men actually provide a financial safety net and a house. Women are buying more houses than men nowadays. Enough with this delusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/25 07:07 PM
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I don’t know why you keep trying to turn my ethical concerns into purely logical abstractions. Significant age gaps where very young adults are involved are more likely to involve exploitative dynamics often enough that it warrants ethical scrutiny. It’s not about mathematical rules, but about risk. When one person has significantly more emotional, cognitive and financial development and the other is just entering adulthood, its ethically relevant. Gives the older person on a platter the ability…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 03:15 AM
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Are you having a psychotic episode? What does this have to do with this topic. Are you okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 02:24 AM
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Which? What?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/25 12:32 AM
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It’s not an issue just bc of maturity in the abstract. There’s different levels of maturity, sure, but someone who is 18, even if they had to “grow up fast” for whatever reason, is still in the early stages of adult development. There will be a gap in life experience, emotional development, financial independence, and brain development. It’s a very inherent imbalance. The older person is capable of recognizing this right away, we can all tell how a kid is still a kid, their world is “smaller” re…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 08:47 PM
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That’s why 20yo pay higher car insurance premiums, because they’re worse drivers, get into more accidents. Did you not know this?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 08:24 PM
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I don’t disagree. It’s still unethical to be after fresh 18 yo
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 08:23 PM
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Those girls usually end up traumatized. That’s their consequence. The older person is still sleazy and creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:39 PM
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False equivalency. Voting, smoking, drinking are institutional rights. None of those involve another person using emotional, psychological and power based influence. It’s not an issue with young people making decisions at all, I dont think these relationships should be illegal. The issue is the older individual choosing to pursue someone they know is still developing in many ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:35 PM
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Nah I disconnected from that stress. It had me stressing at first but she’ll do whatever she wants and learn whatever lessons… not my problem to get my cortisol up about 😮‍💨
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:45 AM
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She’s still in High School and she JUST turned 18. Dude’s a creep. Nooobody would want that for their daughter
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:41 AM
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My opinion is widespread. You go outside. It’s a trope atp a parent getting all upset because their college aged daughter is bringing home a 40yo weirdo. My family is going through it rn. My parents don’t know about purple pill debate yet everyones mortified about my 18yo sister dating a 26yo and doing everything they can to stop it. Only delusional weirdos think this isn’t a common reaction. Go date girls at 12:00AM on their 18th birthday. Yes, it’s legal and nobody can lock you up for it, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:22 AM
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Of course it is dude it’s my own comment. This is one of those things tho that everyone knows its creepy lol it’s just deluding yourselves saying “its just your opinion”. If this weren’t widespread this topic wouldn’t be on this sub every other day.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:14 AM
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Yea and everyone knows they’re creepy. Even you. That’s why you’re out here jumping hoops to justify what we all know is creepy. Not everything in the human experience is some chart or data point. That’s why yall cant date. Creepy and weird and everyone can tell.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:08 AM
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It’s easy and intuitive when you stop bullshitting yourself and others pretending there’s a difference between 17yo and 18yo that eliminates the creepiness from trying to date them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 03:03 AM
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I think that’s fine. Weird but a 40yo is grown grown. No grooming there.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:34 AM
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Younger people make stupid decisions. It’s up to the more mature person to make the more mature decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/06/25 02:30 AM
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It won’t be perfect every time. Just a rule of thumb. Could also be that they’re good enough friends to not steal the others man if they told your interest that they like you
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:19 PM
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If you make a move on the friend, the one you like will all of a sudden be more interested in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/06/25 11:08 PM
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That’s interesting. Maybe bc Facebook users lean right? Lots of Gen X and boomers
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:10 AM
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I really doubt most of them are Trump supporters, but you don’t have to be a liberal to dislike cheating. People tend to hate that so they go on groups like that
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/25 04:06 AM
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Being well liked makes people more likely to give you chances. Business, jobs…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 10:18 PM
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Emotional intelligence opens doors you couldn’t even imagine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/25 06:16 PM
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9436112/ https://www.refworld.org/reference/annualreport/usdos/2001/en/47948
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 07:06 AM
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The most common type of FGM involve removal of the clitoris and inner labia. So do I, but I’m aware that it isnt a man vs woman or left vs right issue, or anything like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:25 AM
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Even with that, there’s still a huge difference in frequency and severity. Most circumcised men don’t experience those complications. Most of the time tho, FGM leads to issues such as urinary retention, obstructed menstruation, severe childbirth risks, infection, torn tissue… imo that’s more severe than ED, which most men don’t struggle with cuz of their cut. FGM is significantly worse in terms of what it does to the body over a lifetime. Both procedures being wrong doesnt make them equivalent.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 06:01 AM
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The metric isn’t a match for nerve endings (and you’re also ignoring the nerves of the labia). The most common forms lead to more severe lifelong complications. Its not just a cut. It damages the body in many ways. I think you should educate yourself better on the topic, and clarify your own thoughts on it, because you’re arguing aimlessly without a clear or well thought out point…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 05:54 AM
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The foreskin does not have 20k nerve endings. That is a myth. You can’t find a study that confirms that number. https://www.allohealth.com/blog/sexual-education/sex-facts-myths/how-many-nerve-endings-in-the-foreskin The clitoris doesn’t have 8k. That’s an outdated figure from livestock research. Its about 10k. Instead of trying to prove who has more nerves to lose like its a match, why not agree that no one should have healthy, sensitive tissue cut off without consent? Period
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:17 AM
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The “milder forms” of FGM aren’t the most common forms. The most common forms are type I and type II, which involve actual removal of the clitoris and even labia. You are cherry picking the least common and least harmful form of FGM to make your point. That is very disingenuous.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 04:07 AM
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Just because a woman chooses to do something doesn’t mean it’s feminist or empowering. Some things women choose to indulge in are strengthening patriarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:57 AM
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Even the “milder” forms of FGM are still rougher. Calling it a female privilege makes it sound like women are benefiting from some special favor, when in reality they’re simply being granted a basic right. Thats not a luxury. It’s not a gender competition, despite you trying to make it seem that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 03:27 AM
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You’re creating a false dichotomy…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:03 AM
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Men not having that right doesn’t mean women are privileged. The scale and severity of the consequences of FGM are very different from MGM. FGM can involve cutting off the clitoris, sewing the vagina shut, and causes lifelong, very serious issues. That’s not to say that MGM is harmless, but pretending the physical and psychological impact of it is “very similar” is straight up wrong. Again, why are you turning this into a gender wars issue? Why don’t you use this energy to talk to lawmakers? It’…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 02:02 AM
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Framing that as a “female privilege” is misleading and reductive. FGM was never a problem to be solved in the West. Legal protection from harm is not a privilege, its a basic human right that all people should have. The outlawing of FGM took decades of activism. It wasn’t handed to women because of privilege. Male circumcision is performed without consent and it can have consequences, but the two practices just arent the same in severity or medical justification. It seems to me that rather than …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:24 AM
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I don’t believe women are privileged because of that. FGM is simply not part of the culture in the West. But where it is cultural, it is problematic. And yes, FGM does do more harm than MGM. The long term complications are more severe. They’re just not ethically or medically equivalent. Doesnt mean its okay to do to boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 01:03 AM
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What privilege do you want them to acknowledge? And what does that do for you? FGM does much more harm than male circumcision, and most of the time its not performed in a sterile, safe environment. It’s apples to oranges. You should spend all of that effort talking to congressmen, assemblymen, state senators, etc. if you really care about ending circumcision, that will be more fruitful than harassing feminist subreddits to get an outcome that will make you feel something deep inside…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:42 AM
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So you want to be allowed to go on the sub and be toxic and annoying and are mad they dont let you. Got it. Stay seething. The conditions for it, the reasoning, and consequences. That’s why I think they’re much different and imo, fgm is more serious. That’s not saying I support it for males. I’m not an activist for either one anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/25 12:06 AM
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What’s the difference between the discussion now or in the past? Floods of incels aren’t proving anything. They’re just going there to stir shit up and be mad at women. I’m not part of that subreddit. Never been on it, I don’t go on it. I don’t agree with circumcision, yet I don’t think it’s the same as FGM. With that defensive and combative attitude tho no wonder they shut you down. You’re not looking for open debate, you’re looking to reinforce your own manosphere biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 10:06 PM
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There are plenty of posts on the topic. Why should they accept a flood of trolls looking for a fight in order to be considered allies? Manosphere subreddits aren’t allies to women either, in fact they vote against women’s interests and spend their whole time hating on them. Why do you need the validation of a feminist subreddit? Do you even care about human rights at all or do you just like picking fights to be mad at things?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 09:21 PM
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Just checked it out. It doesn’t seem irrational or anything if its a black hole for trolls.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 08:26 PM
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Yes you can. There’s lots of threads about the topic on that sub
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 07:51 PM
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Highly doubt that
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/25 02:26 PM
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It is less masculine, but it’s no biggie. That girls “jokes” sound more like her testing whether youd provide for her.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/25 09:09 AM
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Of course not, but they make decisions together for the benefit of the family. Some of those decisions are big sacrifices.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 02:28 PM
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Decisions and consequences are joined when you marry. It’s joining your lives. So yes, it is “they”.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 02:26 PM
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Being a housewife is way more than two hours of labor. Children are a lot, a lot of work. No one’s forcing her If they decide as a couple it’s the best thing to do for the family, she shouldnt be left destitute just bc they divorced. It’s a sacrifice she’s making for the children and such.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:52 AM
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Most women aren’t housewives anymore. They’re also working 60h. Idk why you people act like its the 50s still. Also, a housewife should still be entitled to those assets bc housework is labor and shes wasting years of her life not working. If she gets back into the workforce, ahe wont have a good resume, meanwhile the man got ahead in his career while having the domestic labor taken care of for free.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 08:16 AM
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Then don’t marry dude. Call your representatives and ask them to propose a bill to the house to eliminate marriage if it bothers you that much. Some people want to marry, they see it as legitimizing their relationship and makes it easy to plan for things if one of them dies, gets sick, etc. not everything is about breeding.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:32 AM
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Sadly. Then they wonder why women don’t like them. All of those graphs and studies to crack the code of dating, and all they need is a modicum of empathy and interest in women as human beings.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:30 AM
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Ingrained in our society, plus tax benefits, estate planning, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:28 AM
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Some people like their relationship legitimized by the state.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:27 AM
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Ideally, your spouse is also your friend, a very intimate one, a relationship that goes beyond sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:26 AM
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Be with someone you love and enjoy spending time with?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/25 05:23 AM
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I had no idea about that!!!!!! I’m talking about what everyone’s minds goes to when they think about FGM
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/25 05:20 AM
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Saying it’s not comparable doesn’t mean they’re supporting it. I agree it’s not comparable. FGM is done with a rusty knife by people who are not medical professionals, in a dirty environment and there’s tons of serious issues that come from it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 01:29 PM
1

What’s the feminist rationale?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:24 AM
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Where have you come across plenty of feminists actively supportive of it? It makes no sense to me
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:19 AM
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WWII was good for America, period. But the trauma of your loved ones potentially dying, coming back with the thousand yard stare, the fear of an attack, etc. not easy. War is awful
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 04:19 AM
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Men back in the day had that and most still didn’t get drafted. Plus you’re acting as if women don’t do anything when a war is happening, or aren’t affected by the events. They still wanted political representation.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/25 02:28 AM
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I’d say it’s better to have direct political power and no draft. But given that most people alive here havent been drafted…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 11:30 PM
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That still doesnt beat having actual representation in politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:21 PM
1

Congress isn’t “the feminists”, especially in the 90s.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 08:20 PM
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Sure, but men need to do their own activism. Women won’t be against the banning of circumcision, except for religious ones probably but the same also goes for religious men.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 04:01 PM
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I get it from OPs whole vibe and attitude. He seems to be mad at women bc of circumcision, when that was being done before women had any say in politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:53 PM
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Because the mother is usually the one that’s right there with the baby. Not like men don’t sign it when it’s given to them. This is a cultural issue, and OP talks about it like it’s a feminist ploy to oppress males or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:45 PM
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No, they didn’t. It’s not women’s fault that circumcision is not considered mutilation in American society and it is so normalized.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/25 02:34 PM
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Women don’t do the same. But if you want to, that’s your right. We all read Aesop’s The Scorpion and the Frog. Some people will hurt everyone including themselves, that’s their nature.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/25 11:32 PM
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As long as you don’t vote against them out of pettiness, we’re even.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 10:00 PM
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They don’t need to go to protests or anything. Most of them don’t anyways. Men don’t organize protests for women’s reproductive rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 07:01 PM

Advocate for yourself. Start a protest. Why wait on your ass for women to do activist labor for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/25 02:09 PM
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Why is OF an example of women being bad? Who are they hurting?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:23 PM
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Where did you get this data from
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:19 PM
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Who is talking about sex workers? Why did you bring that up? You’re acting as if every woman out there is on only fans. Women don’t force men to get married. It’s men who propose with a ring. If they didnt want to, they wouldnt. I take accountability for my own actions. Plus I don’t think only fans women are doing anything wrong. Perhaps for themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:14 PM
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Women on only fans and at strip clubs are there because men pay for it. They’re the target demographic. Tell your son to stop being a gooner and maybe he’ll find something other than a thot. Married men are the happiest demographic. Not over 60. Married men in general. Women are happy single, men aren’t. If they want a loving partner who doesnt file for divorce, then they should be a loving partner worth staying with.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 04:03 PM
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Why is it a problem that women initiate divorce if they’re unhappy? Men should do that more too, but they benefit too much from the value the ole ball and chain brings to his life. She will make him meals, make sure all paperwork is done, and take care of the children and the house. Theyre the happiest demographic for a reason, at the expense of women’s unpaid and unappreciated labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:58 PM
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He can leave instead of tricking someone into marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/25 02:36 PM

Men also notoriously cheat more, do less of the work that maintains a household running, and are more likely to leave their wives if she gets ill.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 04:51 PM
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You seem pretty emotional here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/25 12:16 AM
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They get along enough to spend some intimate time together and it happens. Not everything in interpersonal relationships needs to be rationalized and categorized.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 05:39 PM
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They fought as much as anyone fights for any meaningful change in society. Most people like to sit on their ass and watch everything happen on the news. It’s a small percentage that makes significant changes usually. Most people are passive and don’t hold many opinions they have actually thought through.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 01:08 PM
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What’s your point dude
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/25 11:10 AM
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Men punch walls and say they’re logical while crying woe me because none likes them lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/25 06:29 PM
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Women weren’t saying “its our nature we have no control over it” so it doesn’t apply. Men are out here day in and day out talking about how their impulses and urges are stronger than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 08:04 PM
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The implication by saying it’s not a choice that they get like that makes you a bigger piece of shit. Those who have the self control of beasts should be treated like so.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 03:20 PM
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If that was your point then why didn’t you say it? Why are you playing games? How is it deflecting? We all know men are hornier because of their hormones. Arguments arise because men want to use this as an excuse for justifying forcing women to have sex with them. Men are more violent bc of hormones, but they can control themselves and not be violent. Same with horniness.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:26 PM
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If they can’t control themselves like beasts, then they should be treated like beasts and be locked in cages.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:16 PM
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Sorry I just woke up. I can’t deal with snarkiness yet. My point was that men get violent more often overall, not in relationships particularly. I don’t know what you meant by your 2nd point. Yes men are more horny, I didn’t know that was contested
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:15 PM
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Men lead all the violent crime stats lol You’re not entitled to peoples bodies just because you are sexless
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/25 02:04 PM
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You’re responsible for YOUR birth control. Bring condoms and spermicide.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 11:40 PM
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Bring your own condom and spermicide. Why is it so hard for men to be responsible for their own sperm? Are you expecting your partners to buy condoms for you, and open them and put them on?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:09 PM
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Those men are full of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 10:04 PM
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Men are already pretty selfish.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 05:00 PM
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What loss of utility? Husbands can be pretty useless lol nobodys keeping a husband alive for his utility. He’d free up time and emotional labor if he died
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 04:54 PM
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I meant in general. Men get violent more often. Testosterone
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 06:14 AM
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I’ll take your word for it cuz I don’t want to fact check
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 03:46 AM
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Men choose to be violent more often
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/25 03:43 AM
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Generics, surgeries, makeup…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 04:42 AM
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I know what you mean
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/25 02:06 AM
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It’s easier to manipulate people when the part of their brain for decision making and impulse control is immature. It applies to age gaps and military recruitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:17 PM
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You will never treat each the same and the 21 year old will also react differently to the experience. There’s an inherent power and maturity imbalance which hinders informed consent for the much younger person.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:10 PM
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Preying on that naivety and lack of experience as a grown man who has his own trauma and position in life is predatory and unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 08:04 PM
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Being a leader isn’t the same as preying on the naivety of young adults. You see many men saying that 18-21 women are better because they’re more curious and have less baggage AKA more naive.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:57 PM
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At 33, your brain is already developed and you’ve had enough time to figure out your boundaries, your identity, and what you want in a partner. An age gap of 33 and 60 is less problematic than 18 and 60.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:48 PM
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Both men are women are immature and naive in young adulthood, and think less critically about everything. Someone significantly older has the upper hand and can steer the young adult in the direction they want. Most people leave those age gap relationships feeling taken advantage of, it’s for a reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:36 PM
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Driving and drinking aren’t predatory things an older person is doing to you, like military recruitment or big age gaps are.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:24 PM
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Then that’s up to them and their prejudices. But they can do it and the ones who do it are considered handsome and are coveted. Women have been getting shamed for getting plastic surgery but they still do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:23 PM
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What other things? Every beauty enhancement available to women is available to men as well
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:17 PM
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Being clean was also considered feminine. We called men who groomed themselves “metrosexual”. Women still liked them. Be the change you want to see
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 07:08 PM
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They finally got to it in East Asia. I think it will become more and more popular in the West in the future. It’s more accepted nowadays for men to be more vain.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:57 PM
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This has nothing to do with your point. I’m aware men don’t usually wear makeup. Your point was that if they did it, it would be a turn off for women. My point was that if they did it, women wouldnt mind or theyd consider it attractive (since male makeup can improve their looks). That search doesnt contradict my point nor does it support yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:53 PM
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Looking better will maximize their options. Concealer does that. It’s fine to have your opinions but you’re talking out of your ass and passing it off as fact. Not cool dude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:42 PM
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They most certainly can. Nobody cares about what you do, you’ll be fine.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 06:28 PM
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No they haven’t. Where did you see that? I am in America. Women fawn over men who take care of themselves and wear makeup. Stop watching red pill podcasts and go out to meet real women. Nobody cares
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:11 PM
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Straight men can do it too. Again, the only thing stopping you is yourself. I don’t know where you’re getting that women would be turned off by that. It’s not true and you’ve never heard a woman say that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 05:03 PM
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Makeup for men would be different from makeup for women. There are different areas of focus, but it is still something men can do and will get away with. I’ve seen gay men with makeup on in a way that enhances their masculine features and it looks good. The only thing stopping you is yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:57 PM
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Many things such as what? I’m having a hard time following your point. There are things young adults go through that are unethical, predatory, and problematic, but that doesn’t mean it should be illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:52 PM
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That sounds like an excuse you’re holding onto to not take care of your looks. I promise you if you put on some tinted moisturizer for a date, you will not be shamed. Putting on some concealer isnt the same as raping people btw
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:45 PM
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I mean, they’re men who wear makeup and women consider them highly attractive. That’s a counterpoint to your argument that women don’t like men who wear makeup. They certainly do. All famous entertainment male figures also wear makeup. It’s common in the industry.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:36 PM
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That conversation is obfuscated by people’s blind American nationalism and any criticism to the military industrial complex is still consider commie talk, but it is a subject worth bringing up because everyone has an opinions about the predatory nature of military recruiters in High School lunch rooms.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 04:34 PM
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When it comes to things like what? What exactly is your point? Everyone considers military recruiters slimy and predatory.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:58 PM
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Kpop guys use it and girls fawn over them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 03:58 PM
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A few Reddit threads and other forum threads a while ago when I had abortion. Many reported that childbirth was less painful bc of the epidural and the fact that it comes and goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:28 AM
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Women who have had an abortion and been pregnant have said the abortion process is more painful than labor.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:25 AM
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What’s your point then? What are you arguing It’s not the easiest route for a woman to take. The easiest and most passive thing would be to have it an abandon it. The effort matters bc one is a passive choice vs the other. There’s no epidural for abortions. Raw pain there
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:17 AM
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Its the same person. Look through OPs post history. He’s obsessed!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 01:13 AM
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Military recruiters acting cool in the high school lunch room is pretty predatory. I wish they’d show pictures of young men with their extremities blown off instead.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:41 AM
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Men can wear makeup and exfoliate their skin too
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:38 AM
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The fire analogy is not horrible, nor is my argument a strawman just because you say so. I believe you don’t know what a strawman is, but want to use it to sound smart, but it doesn’t work out. Getting an abortion is taking action more than birthing the child and abandoning it. Both parents can do the abandoning once the child exists, and when they do so, they leave others with the responsibility. I’m not passing moral judgment with the fire analogy, it’s just to illustrate the action/lack of ac…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/25 12:35 AM
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Women don’t get alimony nowadays, men always get the kids when they actually want them (women get the kids out of mutual agreement usually), and assets are built jointly. Women work and build wealth too now did you know? the days of provider men are far behind. This fear is built out of fantasies and a persecution complex coming from manosphere podcasts and not real life. Married men are still one of the happiest demographics.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 11:22 PM
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It’s taking action to avoid responsibility in the same way calling firefighters during a fire is taking action to avoid the responsibility of dealing with insurance if the fire spreads to your neighbors. Dealing with the problems you caused and not letting others suffer the consequences is more responsible than completely abandoning the issue and pretending it doesn’t exist while other people have to scramble to deal with YOUR problem. A woman could simply let the pregnancy take its course and a…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:26 PM
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The reasons vary. They’re all sorts. Either way, getting an abortion is taking action, addressing the situation and eliminating the problem. Abandoning a child is just passing the issue to others. The kid does not to be put out like a fire. It’s an analogy. Why are you being purposefully obtuse? The kid situation does need to be addressed though. Once the child is born, the mother can abandon it just like a man or leave it in one of those safe haven boxes. Abortions aren’t abandoning the child, …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 09:11 PM
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People get abortions for reasons other than to avoid the responsibility of a child. Except a child isn’t a fire and isn’t a bad thing It’s something to take care of, so the analogy fits the argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 08:58 PM
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Abortion isn’t to avoid the responsibility of a child, it’s to end a pregnancy. It’s a bodily autonomy issue, and the consequence is that then there will be no child in the future. But it’s taking responsibility and tackling the issue. An abortion is like calling the fire station to end a fire at your house. Abandoning your child is like letting the fire spread to your neighbors and leaving to a 2nd house, without a care for the fire that started at your house.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:16 PM
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An abortion is not avoiding responsibility because it is tackling the issue and getting rid of it. It’s being responsible for the situation and doing something about it, at the expense of her body, finances, mental health. And nobody suffers but her. A man leaving is just being a coward.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 03:22 PM
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Again, an abortion removes the problem for everyone. The man leaving (which men have been doing for thousands of years anyways) is just being a coward and leaving the years long responsibility of his actions to other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:28 AM
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An abortion gets rid of the issue. Abortions are really painful and traumatic, it’s already taking responsibility for the issue. A man buying a ticket to leave the country doesn’t take much effort, and it doesn’t get rid of the issue or responsibility, it just gives it to someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 07:12 AM
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Eventually it will hit you that nobody gives a fuck. You’re all alone. People are too worried about their own life
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/25 02:35 AM
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If men could get women pregnant left and right without responsibility, then it would be up to the state to subsidize those single mothers. Put on a condom.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 03:46 AM
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Women already bear the brunt of the responsibility for birth control. But if you’re so afraid of getting baby trapped protect your own sperm, do what you can do yourself and put on a condom and buy spermicide. Men just love fucking raw and then shocked pikachu when the girl gets preg
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:45 AM
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Is it hard to use a condom or spermicide? Just wondering
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/25 02:41 AM
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So your proof for “women are significantly more shallow than men” is that you, yourself aren’t shallow?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 09:42 PM
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Where do you get that women are “proven” to be “overwhelmingly” more shallow than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/05/25 08:44 PM
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I don’t think it would be ethical to date a person with mental retardation imo. Yes all of it applies. I don’t think such a relationship should be outlawed though. I don’t believe that everything unethical should be illegal. People will do whatever they want to do anyways.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 06:23 PM
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Yes, most relationships have some degree of imbalance, but age in particular is developmental. Inherently different from money or status. There’s a reason why we look down on an 18 yo dating a 40yo and not 30 with 40. It’s when the younger, although an adult, is still way behind on neurological development, psychological maturity, identity formation and positioning within society. The 18yo in this analogy is still missing a lot of life context, a lot of perspective and personal development. Thes…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 03:16 PM
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/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 02:48 PM
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I enjoy femdom sometimes but never saw it that way, the part about feeling wanted like that. As the woman I think you’re always really wanted anyways so it doesn’t make a difference imo
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 08:02 AM
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It turns me on when a guy I like wants to kiss and worship the ground I walk on, so it’s not an ick. When it’s someone I don’t like at all, I feel bad and wonder what’s wrong in his life, and try to pry emotionally to see what’s wrong but it leads to nothing cuz men don’t know whats tearing them up inside usually…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:58 AM
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Hot. DMs open
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:54 AM
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I do. DMs open
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 07:52 AM
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Age gaps inherently involve a power imbalance, and ethical relationships require a meaningful base of equality. It’s not about the potential for abuse, it’s about the built in power differential that can undermine informed consent. This disparity isn’t incidental, it’s inherent in the age gap itself. It’s not that abuse could happen, it’s that the conditions for ethical consent r already compromised.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/25 01:24 AM
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There is nothing “inherently” unethical about anything if you look at it that way.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/25 08:04 PM
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It’s common for children of old parents to feel like they’ve been “robbed” of time with their parents.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 03:04 PM
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You don’t need to have a sterile existence. Just be mindful of whos around you. Your happiness doesnt have to be at others expense. I do believe parents should have time home with their kids, and one should stay at home. Whats your point?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 02:44 PM
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There are good reasons to believe that large age gaps, especially when the younger person is fresh 18, are harmful, so then it fits within that context.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 01:07 PM
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You’re always in them though, given your multiple posts about the topic. Why do you always make a post like this and then resort to that copout when you’re left without argument? “i wish theyd keep their noses out of the bedrooms of consenting adults” every time, Crazy_Kray lol
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 12:02 PM
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If you’re a man in your 40s-50s, you shouldn’t be trying to have children. At that age, your sperm has poor quality, you have no energy, and you’d be stealing your child of time with you. In addition to leaving your wife with the responsibility of taking care of a child AND being a nurse to you. It’s parasitic behavior.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:59 AM
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Morality is fluid. We’ll thought out reasons for why it’s icky are just as good as any other moralization of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/25 11:57 AM
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Nobody at the top of the Maslow hierarchy of needs is doing that. And even if they’re somewhat okay, the work itself makes them extremely cynical and jaded. Sex workers always hate men, and we can’t blame them.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:54 AM
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They’re out of touch. Although sex workers deserve rights and respect as human beings, it’s not empowering or dignifying. They’re not going to put that on their resume.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 03:39 AM
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Sex work is not empowering. Choice feminism is brain rot.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/25 02:53 AM
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Compassionate, empathetic, assertive, funny, open minded. I prefer that he’s not religious at all. I care quite a bit about style. If he’s not very attractive I’d hope that he’ll let me dress him up and fix him up so that he looks as best as he can. A lot of men can’t dress and don’t let people give them styling advice, its a turnoff. I don’t want kids. If he wanted them soooo bad I’d concede to one only and he has to know that I will expect a mommy makeover, a nanny, and I will be a lazy mother…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/25 05:50 PM
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I believe in equality under the law and full rights for rational beings. A being who is controlled and overtaken by their sexual urges is not a rational being.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:47 PM
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If they don’t want to be with their looksmatch they don’t want to be. Who are you to decide who is a looksmatch? You can’t force people to be with people they don’t want to be with. passivity and being a slave to their emotions Men are either obedient cannon fodder (they do well listening to an alpha), or emotional “alphas” that start wars over the pettiest things. Talk about being a slave to their emotions when they’ve started wars over women or hurt egos. Punching walls and all that. Don’t be …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 07:43 PM
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What responsibility are we forgoing? Is it women’s responsibility to give pussy to the genetic bottom of the barrel?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 06:34 PM

Bodily autonomy should be respected more than your “biological imperative” = being a type of human who can’t just control their urges, like an animal, a beast.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 05:31 AM

I mean but what are they going to do instead? Bitch endlessly about not getting pussy?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 02:21 AM
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Why should your choice to be meek change mine? It’s not about you being bold and me being meek, it’s about whether public spaces are something we share, or something we seize. It’s about creating equal footing in spaces we all share, streets, parks… it’s not a battleground. We already draw lines like these. You’re free to walk around open carrying, but not to wave that gun in someones face.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/25 12:09 AM
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According to… who? The basic principle behind public norms. That your right to act ends where it stards imposing on others. Even in Ancapistan people will eventually get sick of it and start creating rules to stop their neighbors from blasting music at 3am. Being armed and shopping isn’t imposing on others. That example supports my distinction, because you weren’t interacting w that person. It was just your presence. Their discomfort doesn’t override your right to be there. Why does such a right…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 06:10 PM
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Being present in public is not a targeted or intrusive act. Their presence itself doesn’t impose anything on you. Yelling sexual comments at strangers does impose something. That’s why we have noise restrictions or indecent exposure laws. Those acts are not violent by themselves, but they do interfere with people’s basic ability to exist in peace. We already decide all the time what “reasonable standards” are, we base it on common expectations. We don’t blast music at 3am, we don’t allow that, o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:52 PM
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Harassment: repeated/targeted behavior that intrudes on someone’s ability to exist safely and comfortably in a space, particularly after its made clear that the behavior is unwanted. Coercion: trying to influence someone’s choices through pressure, threats, etc. undermining free and informed consent. Both violate autonomy. what if I don’t consent to an action others don’t find inappropriate? Not everything one person dislikes counts as harassment. Societies use shared, reasonable standards. Some…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 05:03 PM
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I believe society ought to prevent behaviors that involve non-consensual interference with others, this includes harassment or coercion. And society ought not force individuals to surrender their bodily autonomy to satisfy other’s intimacy needs. That’s my stance. Harm and intimidation are both subjective as well A lot of behaviors are context dependent, sure, but that’s why our societies rely on consent. Choking is acceptable if consent is given, and not if it isnt. The law isn’t banning chokin…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 04:28 PM
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Democracies? Where are those? I don’t know of any. You may mean representative democracies (republics), but that’s a very different thing. That’s pedantic. “Liberal democracy” is used for systems like representative republics with constitutional protections. You know this, we both do. The core of the issue is the actual principle of mutual non interference under the social contract. No need to go into a terminological rabbit hole. You’re conflating two very different things: whether someone like…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:23 PM
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In our modern liberal democracies, we structure laws to prevent harm. Social contract. Mutual non interference and all that. Individuals give up certain freedoms in exchange for protection from harm and mutual respect. Prohibiting cat calling protects people from an interference, an unpleasant situation nobody likes in our society. But saying someone should be “given” sex implies a positive claim, that men are owed something. Giving men this would break that social contract because it requires o…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 03:02 PM
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Your first paragraph involves not doing something Your second paragraph involves forcing people to perform an act. False dilemma
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/25 02:40 PM
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This is incel nonsense. Everyone looks for the best partner they can get. When women are young and hot, they want 666 chad, when they grow old and ugly, they still want 666 chad. Ability to provide has always mattered, it’s just that when they’re young they don’t know that well what ability to provide means and they think the retard with the expensive car payment has money and can afford the lifestyle they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:51 AM
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It’s partly biological. A guy having money makes him look hotter. It’s a cherry on top.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:47 AM
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Out of all the people that fuck corpses, animals, etc. the majority are men. You know this, we all do.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 03:45 AM
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Those women you named have had work done and they use lots of makeup lol
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/25 01:52 AM

I get ravenous every month before ovulation but casual sex wouldn’t satisfy those urges. I’d say women’s sexual urges are more complex than men’s, and men get that way more often than women.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/25 04:35 AM
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The wording: “because you’re dishonest, it will be nonsense” is tying the character to the argument’s worth. What you’re now claiming about sequence “first arguing, then insulting” does NOT match what you said previously, because what you said was that my argument was nonsense BECAUSE OF me being dishonest. That is ad hominem. Your defense contradicts your original phrasing which does commit ad hominem. Own up to it like a big boy. It wasn’t “close to a fallacy” it WAS a fallacy. Again, own up t…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 09:48 PM
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Regardless of the reason, it’s still fallacious reasoning. A personal insult by itself isn’t ad hominem, you’re right there. But you discredited my argument BECAUSE of [insult] so you did use ad hominem. Let’s revisit your phrasing: “You are dishonest, so your argument is nonsense” You’re tying my character to the worth of the argument. That is ad hominem. Whenever you attack someone’s character as the reason for my argument being bad, it IS ad hominem. I think you’re just not understanding fall…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 08:08 PM
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In the comment I broke down you weren’t just insulting me, you were discrediting me BECAUSE “im a dishonest fuck”, so your reason for discrediting me was an insult. So, the insult was directly tied to the discrediting, Therefore, ad hominem. No, you’re poisoning the well. You are saying: “Whatever you say next will be nonsense because you’re dishonest” that’s textbook poisoning the well. It’s preemptively dismissing someone’s next argument, it’s fallacious reasoning. Here’s what you said: “I won…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:24 PM
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Let’s break it down for you: We already established you aren't, but indulge me. Can you name one, just one fallacy i have committed. I wont respond to anything else you say until you do this. Although, I already know this will be some nonsense on how I "implied" something and not my actual words. Because you are a dishonest fuck. Please present your case, you dishonest fuck. Ad hominem: You repeatedly say that I am a “dishonest fuck” to discredit my argument. By saying “because you are a dishone…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 07:03 PM
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You’re attacking me instead of engaging in the argument, derailing from honest debate. You’re embarassing yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:45 PM
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What case? You said to mention a single fallacy you committed so I did. You keep insulting me, that’s fallacious. “argumentum ad hominem, refers to several types of arguments that are usually fallacious. Often currently this term refers to a rhetorical strategy where the speaker attacks the character, motive, or some other attribute of the person making an argument rather than the substance of the argument itself. This avoids genuine debate by creating a diversion often using a totally irrelevan…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:38 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:34 PM
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Buddy you started your comment by attacking me hahaha what kind of response do you want? Give me an actual thought out argument and I will give you the same. Otherwise, I will match your energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:34 PM
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you have repeatedly displayed these signs No I haven’t. I haven’t expressed focus or admiration for myself. You’re having a mental breakdown and resorting to ad hominems because you used incorrect terms, lacked common sense and an understanding of English. If you were part of a debate club, you would’ve gotten kicked out already. Your debate abilities are incredibly poor and your emotional control really weak. It looks embarrassing for you how much effort you put on insulting others based on you…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 05:30 PM
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Keeps showing up on my feed and creeps keep responding justifying their creepiness and being delusional about their smv.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 04:54 PM
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Women are more desirable. Have you seen the videos of the hot women with down syndrome? Men fuck dead bodies, animals, bottles… it’s not a compliment.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 06:25 AM
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The definition you sent still did not apply to what you had said. The fact that you are even trying to argue is frankly absurd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole Interesting that you talk about being “failed” by education while you have such poor grammar… I take it English is not your first language, it shows in your lack of awareness of anglo idiosyncrasies. One can always tell “how old you??” what logical person makes a definite statement on something they can’t possibly know to be true h…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 02:03 AM
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Non established meaning? Yes, you used your own alternative definitions for narcissist. When I sent you the correct one, you said “there can be multiple meanings” narcissist means what it means. Take the L. It’s fine. It’s not a logical flaw to say “always”, the rest of my points still stand and you choose to hyperfixate on that word to derail and to avoid addressing the main points. Also, I addressed that multiple times. I actually said, verbatim: “It’s a recipe for disaster, which is why I sai…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/25 01:06 AM
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You’re mistaken. My arguments have been logical, but you’re name calling using non established meanings. If you were able to point out the logical flaws in my argument, you’d address them directly instead of derailing to insults. It’s pointless. You could address the part where I said that 18yo have fundamental differences compared to a 40yo. It is extremely disingenuous to act as if 22 years of living don’t make a difference. You’re not even the same between 18 and 25. Be for real. And actually…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 11:45 PM
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This isn’t a feminism issue. People always get icked by autists because they clock the subtle body language stuff autistic people aren’t good at. It’s common for autistic women to struggle making female friendships because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 11:04 PM
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You seem flustered tbh. I’m able to break down the comments logically and answer as best as I can, but you’re incapable of writing a comment that doesn’t include some sort of insult. That’s usually how you know you’re losing. If you need to resort to insults, you lost. Also, I don’t think you know what a narcissist is. I’ll help: excessive interest in or admiration of oneself and one's physical appearance. None of what I said has been about that. I’ve spent all this time trying to show you the f…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:59 PM
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Calm down bro. Why do you get flustered so easily? Put down your phone dude. The 18 yo doesn’t have an understanding of what they’re getting into. That’s the issue. That’s actually what you’ll hear from those girls once their brains develop more, they look back and realize they didn’t understand the scope of those decisions, and they wish it didn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:35 PM
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Is 40 and 18 year old relationship ideal for a typical relationships? Realistically, No. Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:16 PM
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I see. I disagree with your point. I think that on a large age gap, when there’s someone still developing their adult self and there’s that big of a difference, there just isnt enough cognitive capacity for the younger person to understand what they’re getting into. When you’re 18 you don’t know what you want and the part of your brain that controls impulse and long term thinking is still very immature, and at that age you’re still too malleable. It’s a recipe for disaster, which is why I said “…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 10:09 PM
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Let’s get down to the bare bones of your argument. What exactly are you saying? My point is this: large age gap relationships are unethical, and it is something worth discussing and discouraging younger people from getting into because there are well documented risks and consequences to these dynamics. What is your main point?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 09:42 PM
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You know what you said and what you implied. Let’s not play dumb. You got called out for ad hominem and strawmanning and now you’re pulling an uno reverse. I used quotations. Read first paragraph. You admitted previously that you don’t think a relationship between an 18 yo and a 40yo wouldnt be ideal. So you DO know the risks and issues with these dynamics, so what’s our disagreement then? Just arguing to argue. Goofy
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 09:28 PM
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Your framing implies that my concerns are equivalent to trying to control or restrict adult choices. Which isn’t my position. When you say things like “its their prerogative”, “its none of your business” “who cares about your standards for dating” it sends the implication that raising concerns, especially on a post dedicated to that, is equal to wanting to control others choices. That’s the framing I’m responding to. To be clear: I’m not arguing for prohibiting anything or policing adults lives.…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 09:01 PM
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Escalating and projecting. Do some breathing exercises. You’re not arguing in good faith at all, you’re getting emotionally involved and then trying to paint me as irrational so that you can “win” by dismissal, and not by actual debate. I’m not arguing that individuals shouldnt have the right to date as they wish, let’s clear that up so you tone down your strawmen. I’m just pointing out why certain patterns are viewed critically. Patterns that have been studied, studied, patterns that correlate …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 08:34 PM
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Classic bad faith, strawman move. You’re trying to reframe my argument as me saying women are too helpless. What I am actually arguing is that power dynamics can undermine real agency, which requires more than just saying “yes”. It also requires making choices without influence or hidden pressures. Age gap relationships have an imbalance in experience and resources. People can be influenced and groomed, it’s not denying their agency. Young people are easy to manipulate. College aged kids are dum…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 08:07 PM
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Adults can and do choose partners for reasons including financial stability. But when there’s a large age gap, and the older partner is offering stability, guidance, and validation to someone still figuring out adulthood and boundaries, the relationship can start to blur automomy without consciously realizing it. It’s not ab whether she can survive alone or not (which btw a girl in early adulthood who can easily sustain herself is more likely to be one with loving and supportive parents thus she…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 07:49 PM
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Didn’t say violent, said hostile. Good strawman, again.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 07:36 PM
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You’re not challenging my points though. You’re attacking me for no reason lol is this really such a sore spot for you that you have to seethe like that? Are you denying the personal attacks? I do believe in socially repressing these dynamics because it’s harmful for young women. If my little sister decided to date a man that could be our dad I would be like wtf are you doing????? In the end, I gotta let her do what she wants, it’s her life, but because of well documented patterns, I know this w…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 07:34 PM
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I’m laying it out. You’re just very emotional about this for some reason and don’t want to hear me out. If your mind is made up, and you’re not looking for open discussion then what exactly are you trying to do? You can date whoever you want, Im not stopping you. I just don’t understand your hostility. It’s unnecessary. It’s not only financial pressure, it’s just layers and layers of risks for manipulation and abuse. Large age gaps amplify all of these. Women who get involved with much older men…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 07:20 PM
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You’re strawmanning my position and trying to corner me into accusing someone of rape or backing off. I’m not falling for that, but nice strawman. Manipulation doesn’t have to involve force or illegality to be harmful. What the older partner may “gain” from this is emotional control, dependence, and compliance. In big age gap relationships, the older person will have more influence, social power and finesse (comes with age), and will face less resistance in a way that creates a dynamic that bene…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 07:11 PM
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Wow you’re triggered. If you need to resort to ad hominems, you’re the one that’s lacking in intellectual prowess. Your arguments can’t hold up on their own, so you have to resort to personal attacks and nitpicking. You’re arguing in bad faith, ignoring the patterns of these types of dynamics and pretending you wouldn’t be concerned if it were your daughter to make a point. If you’re able to argue in good faith, without strawmans, I’d be glad. But nowhere did I mention it should be illegal or fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 07:02 PM
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Research shows large age gap relationships have higher risks for all sorts of negative outcomes for the younger partner. You can try to nitpick all you want, but when your 18 yo daughter brings home a 40yo man you’ll all of a sudden understand why the 40yo is a creep and why your 18yo is still a child in many ways even if legally an adult.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 06:14 PM
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If she’s in her early adulthood she’s still figuring out her financials, identity, etc. it’s easier to manipulate people who are that much younger in general. The financial part is just another layer.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 05:35 PM
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All those women always come out traumatized
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 05:18 PM
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It’s not about explicit transactions like prostitution, it’s about emotional pressure created by unequal resources.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/25 04:01 PM
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You’re creating a strawman. No one said people from different backgrounds shouldn’t date. Class, wit, education, etc are all part of human variation. The issue isn’t difference, it’s the predatory intent combined with the developmental vulnerability of young age. Older people don’t automatically exploit younger ones. Sometimes people meet, fall for each other and they happen to have an age gap. The issue is consistently seeking out much younger partners, it shows that the older one relies on the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:57 PM
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A 6’4 guy dating a small woman can still have an equal relationship when each other’s autonomy is respected. Relational power imbalances go much deeper. They have psychological consequences. When one person is much older and the other is just entering adulthood, the imbalance goes beyond physicality. It’s about influence, not muscle strength. Physicality is limited to force. A much older partner has leverage in finances, self esteem, worldview, decision making, social credibility, emotional auth…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:42 PM
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“Consenting adults” isn’t a magic phrase to get rid of context. We don’t need to peek into people’s bedrooms to discuss power dynamics, grooming, and exploitation. If patterns emerge that suggest manipulation, you can’t just shut down discussion by saying “muh consent”. An 18 yo with a 35 yo might be legal and consensual, but it surely isn’t healthy or free of power dynamics. If someone needs total privacy to avoid scrutiny, perhaps what they’re doing deserves some scrutiny.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:15 PM
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False equivalence. You’re comparing regulated civic responsibilities that have external safeguards to intimate relationships, which are private, impossible to oversee. And we DO acknowledge the risks of young drivers. Their insurances are more expensive. It’s a managed risk. Not a free for all. Unlike speeding, manipulation and coercion in relationships go unnoticed until the damage is done. Democracy accepts some irrationality as a principle. It’s considered “the price of freedom”. We know not …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 09:01 PM
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I will take such a blatant strawman as you admitting that your arguments have a weak logical standing. Thanks for the win
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:44 PM
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Research does show that early attachment patterns and paternal relationships can influence attraction to older partners, so yes, “daddy issues”. Women with distant, absent, unstable, or abusive fathers are more likely to seek out these types of relationships. They’re looking for a daddy substitute bc their actual daddy didn’t love them. The brain development at mid to late 20s, even early 30s does have significant neuroscience behind it. The prefrontal cortex continues developing well into the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 08:08 PM
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Women with daddy issues who fall for manipulation. They all realize it once their brains get developed. Tale as old as time.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:28 PM
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Young women don’t like geezers, that’s only in the fantasies of old men who want to delude themselves into thinking young women want their droopy balls, receding hairline and moth ball smell.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:21 PM
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Why are you? You’re the one that made a whole ass post about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 07:06 PM
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It’s easier to manipulate way younger people, since they’re still figuring out their identity, boundaries, and financials.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:54 PM
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Creepy old men? I know, right?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:39 PM
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She will mature and realize she was taken advantage of, and that the guy was a creep. You know this. You’re acting dumb for what
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:39 PM
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What hipocrisy? When did I advocate for socialism? All I said was that you were wrong. It takes a quick google search to know that socialist ideas are about the means of production, not about being entitled to other’s labor. Socialist philosophy wouldn’t advocate for the commodification of women’s bodies. That’s an objective fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 06:01 PM
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The post is about dating, not casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:59 PM
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I don’t know what that has to do with the topic of sex work. I just know enough about the subject matter of socialism to know that you were representing it incorrectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:55 PM
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I wouldn’t take advantage of a significantly more naive and developmentally immature person simply because it is legal.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:54 PM
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If you were well aware of what socialism is, you wouldn’t portray it incorrectly. You’re responding as if I am advocating for it. I’m not. I’m just saying that your portrayal of it is objectively wrong. Not giving my opinion on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:51 PM
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What makes you think I am removing their agency? I wouldn’t even stop one of my friends from being with a 40 year old if they want to lol. I’m just aware that she’s got daddy issues and when she gets to her mid to late 20s she’ll realize it was a mistake and the guy was a creep. A lesson for her, and a stain on the character of the dude. Could you please stop strawmanning my positions? I know you have the cognitive ability to have a discussion without such blatant fallacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:50 PM
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Why do you keep strawmanning my position? I said repeatedly I don’t think it should be illegal, and I also said it’s the same for a young guy. I’m having a discussion on the ethics of it, and you keep trying to turn it into a gotcha about women not being allowed to vote. Are you capable of having a good faith discussion or not?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:45 PM
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If a girl in her teens or early 20s likes men who could be their father, she has daddy issues. It’s not normal. One of the two consenting adults is taking advantage of a younger, more naive person. Shouldn’t be illegal, but it is unethical. You don’t see the issue because you’re biased, but I’m sure that if you ever have a daughter, you will all of a sudden understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:41 PM
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Socialism is not about being entitled to other’s labor, it’s about workers taking control of the means of production. The idea is that when you work, you make your employer more money than what they’re paying you, and they’re taking that extra value without much benefit to you. So yes, a fundamental misunderstanding of socialist ideas.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:40 PM
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I take it you’ve never felt genuine love and spontaneous connection with someone you met at a party, work, etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:37 PM
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You have a fundamental misunderstanding of socialist ideas if that’s what you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:36 PM
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Socialism wouldn’t advocate for the commodification of intimacy and consent. So no, it’s not two sides of the same coin. Your solution to that problem is at the expense of other women. They’re human beings. If you had a daughter, would you want her to put herself in that situation? Is it worth her getting PTSD and seeing the worst of humanity just so sexless men can fuck? Like come on man. Yes it’s better to work on charisma and all that instead of treating women’s bodies like they’re inventory!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:18 PM
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It’s not about legal rights, it’s about social, psychological, and economic leverage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:13 PM
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You deserve sex, as anyone does. But that doesn’t entitle you to commodify other’s bodies, that’s the root of the issue. It’s not a human rights issue that some men don’t get sex. You sound like one of those incels that bitch about a state mandated girlfriend.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:07 PM
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Experience isn’t just sex. You’re in a completely different stage of life, and you have the life experience and expertise only the years can give you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 05:06 PM
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They can do that, I’m not saying it should be illegal. It says more about the 35 yo than about the 18 yo if he agrees to that though. And the 18 yo girl will see that once shes 35. It’s usually girls with lots of issues that would be into that. Most young girls aren’t interested in old men like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:32 PM
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Living up to your username with that strawman.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:59 PM
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I do consider the student loan system pretty predatory and I don’t agree with 17-18 yr olds taking out hundreds of thousands in student loans. You’re fixating on women. I’m talking about the naivety of youth. It’s easy to take advantage of people starting adulthood, so it’s better to avoid doing that if you’re already past that stage.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:30 PM
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Ethics in the dating context refers to taking into account the power dynamics that exist and respecting the vulnerability of others. Actively looking for younger people as a target, especially people in an age group associated with immaturity and inexperience implies a predatory intent. By harmful I mean individual harm and social harm. People who are targetted by a much older person usually see the manipulation and abuse of their naivety once they get old enough. Young people don’t have enough …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:29 PM
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I assume you must be very young, but years and brain development put you in a position to take advantage of someone 20 years younger in a way a 22 year old wouldn’t be able to with a 19 yr old.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 03:23 PM
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Besides it being unethical, potentially harmful, and the girls in those circles being disgusted and annoyed by the creeps who go to those circles to bother them… it doesn’t matter, you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:39 PM
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People fall for each other, love happens. You don’t control who you fall for, sometimes there’s an age gap there. But actively seeking for a particular age group is creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:26 PM
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Fertility starts to gradually decline after 30, and more aggressively after 35. 25 is not an absolute peak. If all you care is breeding a woman and not the type of person she is, you’re at least able to choose one that has a more stable life and can give those children some semblance of love and stability, given that their dad has such a dark and misogynistic view of the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:22 PM
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You’re not born with a specific age. If your standard is that she stays frozen in time at a specific age, you’re going to be very disappointed within a few months.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:19 PM
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Did you read your own article? It does mention that it can go well past 25. There’s variability but undoubtedly, early 20s is not a mature brain.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:17 PM
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A guy who is 19 is still very young and can be taken advantage of by a 40 yo. doesn’t mean he shouldn’t get to vote. It’s just acknowledging the difference life stages and leaving young people be.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:14 PM
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I can see how it was a waste of my time to try to have a good faith discussion. You really do think being unable to pay to get your dick wet is a human rights issue. Johns have no sense of ethics or anything. Scum of the earth. Luckily, they’re also at risk of getting diseases, getting robbed, and there’s the feeling you’ll carry with you of paying for a woman to throw up after you touch her.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 01:54 PM
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Your sexual frustration does not make you entitled to purchase someone’s body for an hourly rate. Why are you resentful? Intimacy is not a service, women are not a product. That logic is what makes this a deeper issue. what makes SW so special? Most people hate their jobs, but no other job carries such deep and serious consequences for the person doing that. It doesn’t just require your time and your body, but it requires your sexuality, your boundaries, your interior self. It’s a completely dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 04:04 AM
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You’re focusing on individual choice. I’m talking about the conditions, the context that push people to these choices. Saying that someone “chose” sex work without looking at factors such as lack of opportunity (not everywhere is bustling with jobs), addiction, trauma, etc. is like saying people choose to sell their organs because they paid well for a kidney. The choice exists, you’re right, but duress and economic coercion also exist. I’m not infantilizing women, enough with the strawmen. I’m j…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:37 AM
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For many women, it’s a last resort thing. And regardless, doesn’t get rid of the fact that it’s an unethical thing for someone to take advantage of with their money. They’re putting wetting their dicks above everything else. They don’t gaf if she’s trafficked, or if shes doing it to pay for her kids schooling in a poor country, nooone. He only wants to fuck. It’s unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:24 AM
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Because they’re paying for someone’s intimacy, something which isn’t actually a commodity, and traumatizing/hurting the sex worker in the process. It’s fundamentally unethical. You can’t buy someone’s will to sleep with you. Most sex workers wish they didn’t have to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:11 AM
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I’m not deciding what another woman does with her body. Those same woman always come out the other side traumatized and hating men, they see the worst. I’m advocating for them, and shaming johns.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/25 02:02 AM
1

Your whole argument was about minimizing my personal achievements on every turn after saying it’s only losers that marry after 30, and that women are desperate to marry beforehand. I love when a hurt, emotional man has to resort to personal attacks when it’s revealed that his arguments are all strawmen built out of insecurities with his own standing in society, and fantasies about how he’s worked so much harder than a woman in his head because he can’t stand that he’s lagging behind everyone aro…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:52 PM
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You guessed wrong. It’s none of those, good try though. What was your degree in? I want the job you have, if it will allow me to have like 5 different nonsense arguments going on at the same time. Getting paid to jerk myself off hating on the imaginary women getting married after 30 lmao hows the search for you? Make sure you lie and say you’re taller than you actually are if you want a good chance at betabuxxing for some single mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:53 PM
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The system was already rigged to benefit men. And now that it isn’t, losers who wouldve been losers back then now have someone to blame (muh women) instead of themselves. Very easy for the chuds who just like to sit around and seethe. because you’re neither strong nor independent As strong and independent as one can be and must be to function in this world. I’m not a white feminist woman. These adjectives aren’t meaningful to me. Why are you fighting straw men? You’re arguing just to argue lol I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:46 PM
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Men have low T and want to be princesses. Their dads didn’t teach them how to treat a woman they’re interested in and think texting at 2am “u up? Wanna come over” is how you get a wife. And when this doesn’t work, they get all mad at women. They don’t want to work on themselves to be better people and thus become magnetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:41 PM
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Affirmative action doesn’t mean the system has been rigged. It was rigged when women were denied opportunities just so that loser incels could feel like they’ve achieved something. Why are you so insecure? I’m not saying anything about strength and independence. You’re the one fixated on that. We’re at a point in history where people gotta fend for themselves. It’s not impressive at this point in time if a man or a woman graduates college, works and buys things. Affirmative action doesn’t change…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:36 PM
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The system hasn’t been rigged to benefit women in those categories. That’s all copium for male losers who have always been losers but now have a scapegoat so they don’t have to take accountability for their lack of motivation due to porn addiction. Why are you so concerned with the details of my life? It’s like you’re trying to gather information to make yourself feel better about something in your life you’re insecure about. Do you think you’re the only one that’s able to work and buy things? I…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:17 PM
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It’s not the 1950s anymore. More women are buying homes than men nowadays. Aren’t you people always bitching about women outdoing men in every category? Hubby’s income is amazing for me, but we haven’t been married long enough for me to say that he’s subsidized anything. It’s been less than a month and I already had my life going. Keep seething about other people’s lives in your lonely home. The clock is ticking and the hairline keeps receding Chud, lock in.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:02 PM
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You sound emotional. I’m already married and live in a house in rural America. Big nice yard. Keep seething about other people’s choices while living in your parent’s basement, Chud.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:53 PM
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It’s a trend everywhere. People are marrying later in life. Why do you move the goalpost? I can see that you value marrying before 30, but nowadays it’s not as important as it once was for most people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:13 PM
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Quite the opposite. If you go out and meet people, you will realize that “marrying before 30” isn’t something people care about. In fact, in bigger cities, if you marry before 30 it’s almost like you’re a child bride. Enough red pill podcasts. More going out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:24 PM
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No, it doesn’t depend on what subject. Men commit most violent crime. Men are the violent gender. On a daily basis, men do the unspeakable to women. You got infanticide, what else? This isn’t the gotcha you think it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:22 PM
2

From the channel “know your worth king” 0 critical thinking.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 02:21 PM
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You’re spewing nonsense. Projecting men’s lack of empathy and accountability onto women lol. Goofy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 06:04 AM
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Not going to start my sentence with “Why do reddit incels…” My point stands. Let’s not get nitpicky.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:32 AM
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Women can be all you want. But you can’t say they are the most violent demographic ;) Yet I still value the men in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 05:14 AM
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I can guarantee you that when a man is caught cheating, he will resort to gaslighting and blaming everyone but himself, and then crashing out. “You let yourself go”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:42 AM
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Those types of girls don’t marry a “poor schmuck” They marry a washed up frat boy who follows OF girls on Instagram. You’re too biased against women. It’s odd
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:40 AM
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Child pornography is not a victimless crime. It’s normal to care about children’s safety. A sorority girl’s high body count has no effect on your life
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:31 AM
2

When men cheat, there’s a whole trope on the blame being on the woman for being a bitch, putting on weight after children, giving those children too much attention. The Bezalel archetype is alive and well still. Society likes to blame women for being too tempting.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:29 AM
2

Why do men feel entitled to the commodification of women’s bodies? Women’s bodies aren’t a market niche to tap into.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:28 AM
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Men have built whole ass religions and moral frameworks dedicated to avoiding taking accountability and blaming women for their own failings. Take a look at the mirror.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/25 04:23 AM
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I’d say men are the subservient ones. They do well in the military.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 11:20 PM
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Women weren’t happy with that lifestyle either. They used to call that housewife depression and anxiety “the problem with no name”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 09:05 PM
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women were often in the subservient role in society Not by choice or natural inclination
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:59 PM
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Most people don’t care about securing a marriage by the age of 30. That’s just rhetoric from weirdos who hyper fixate on “the wall”.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:58 PM
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Oldest profession in the world. And why does it bother you so much? They’re just making money because the demand is there.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/25 08:00 PM
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“In 2019, 69.4 percent of all individuals arrested were White, 26.6 percent were Black” FBI
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/25 01:20 AM
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Blah blah blah. Men commit most violent crimes. The stats speak for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 05:02 PM
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A good chunk of women have been raped, and most rapists are men. Men are just violent
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:41 PM
2

Girls that date old men tend to have daddy issues, so an older man who appears to have his life together is quite the catch for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 04:05 PM
3

The things my friends get impressed by never fail to surprise me. Granted I am from poor rural America.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 03:40 PM
2

You have a savior complex and you’re not realizing how predatory it is to take advantage of a girl of high school age and fuck her while you “help her”. Major ick. They’ll learn
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:46 PM
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Younger girls see a man in his 30s with a car and a job and they think he’s rich because the guys their age are broke. They think the older man is high value, when in reality he’s a loser/average compared to other men his age.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:04 PM
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Unrelated. Men just seethe bc they have pussy envy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/25 01:55 AM
4

So what? C’est la vie
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 09:23 PM
0

It is. It’s just biology. Men should stop seething about that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 07:10 PM
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Well, if she’s getting more game than him, she’s obviously got more smv than you want to admit.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/25 02:15 PM
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If it’s by chance, people don’t have an issue with it. It’s when these dudes go out of their way to chase barely legal girls that’s creepy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 10:08 PM

It doesn’t need to be a high percentage for it to be considered systemic. The fact that it’s a leading cause of death for pregnant women means its a statistically significant trend instead of an anomaly. If a cause of death surpasses any single medical condition and is significantly tied to a specific pattern (DV) it qualifies as a systemic issue because it’s not just random. It is linked to specific risk factors that as a society we’re not addressing. You can keep going with your bad faith dism…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 08:09 PM
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Men are the biggest crybabies when called out on systemic issues. Throwing the biggest temper tantrum over made up issues that red pillers talk about. At least this is a problem based on reality. You just don’t know what a systemic issue is. Systemic doesn’t mean there’s a central institution actively overseeing this issue. Systemic means the problem is widespread and reinforced by our existing social structures. Pointing out something is a systemic issue isn’t about “emotion”. It’s just showing…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:52 PM
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Why do men think they are the arbiters of logical thinking and then are incapable of moving past their emotions when it comes to admitting systemic issues? The fact that homicide by an intimate partner is THE leading cause of death for pregnant women is a systemic issue because it reflects broader structural problems. Domestic violence, gender based violence and inadequate support for pregnant women are all systemic issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 04:31 PM
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If it was isolated cases, then it wouldn’t be the leading cause of death for pregnant women. It’s systemic enough
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 03:42 PM
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You’re a lucky man then. Keep mogging
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:23 AM
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All of the guys in their 30s I’ve seen who claim they look like someone in their 20s, just look like someone in their 30s that takes good care of themselves. Your age shows through your changing bone structure. I’m also hyper aware of those things though. I’m in my early 20s and most girls I know said significantly older men are icky. It’s the ones with daddy issues and broken homes that are open to large age gaps (and if they got sugar).
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:20 AM
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Keep telling yourself that. This weekend I will laugh extra hard on the faces of the old chuds at the club thinking their graying chest hairs and beer do it for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:18 AM
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I’m in my early 20s. It’s hilarious when paunchy, balding men hit on me and pretend I will like them for anything but their money. It’s the young ones that get my pussy wet without having to pay.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:12 AM
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You have no leverage. Just delusional while getting betabuxxed. If you think height and age are the same and decide to be a creep to spite imaginary women, enjoy getting betabuxxed while 24 yo Chad gets actually desired.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:09 AM
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You’re just not that old. I doubt you look 21. This post is mainly talking about delusional, actually aging men 35+ who swear up and down college girls prefer them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/25 05:03 AM
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Therapy
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/25 07:54 PM
5

Bring your own condom
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:35 PM
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Just date men if you think women are so awful. Now nobody will steal your sperm to get 100 bucks out of you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/25 12:33 PM
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Your comment ignores a lot of context. You’re projecting your own group think and your own reactionary bias. Israel never actually withdrew from Gaza, they still controlled it and held Gazans in an open-air prison. Israel has committed a lot of cruel war crimes against Palestinians, so it is normal that many people see this, and feel outraged. If you don’t, then whatever. But it is ignorant and reductive to say that there’s no valid reasoning behind people’s reactions. And noticing this and want…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:48 PM
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What about the violence against Palestinian women and civilians? There’s wayyy more of those who are dead because of Israel’s actions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:26 PM
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If their sex drives turn them into mindless beasts, then maybe they should be locked up and let those who can control themselves make the important decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:24 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/0zqfwk6izhre1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=881c1e616647b798e147d73b94592897173a1e13 And I’ll put this here because the pictures of the starving or blown up children would probably get flagged on here.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:22 PM
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And now USA. Saying that Israel is committing genocide is now worthy of being labeled a terrorist sympathizer. The bootlicking of MAGAtRds is out ot control.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:12 PM
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https://preview.redd.it/7lyxca5wvhre1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff92d27a5b3adaa46f863be803732aa821ebce65
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 09:02 PM
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It says a lot about someone when they justify politicians who are outright hateful to many groups. Someone that spends so much of their time cheering for hate, and for the destruction of the democratic principles of free speech and due process, is not someone well adjusted, and women can see that, so they avoid those men. A few people here are giving you arguments, with good reasoning as to why it is repellent or at the very least problematic, and you’re writing it off as “group think”.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 08:17 PM
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One isn’t an illegal immigrant just for being Venezuelan. And if they’re Venezuelan, their country of origin is Venezuela, NOT El Salvador. They’re different countries, so why are they being sent to a country that isn’t their own? The point of this discussion is that many women consider this sort of thing to be repellent. So if a man supports Trump, he more or less supports this inhumane treatment of others, and that doesn’t get girls wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:55 PM
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The people getting detained for signing petitions or standing around saying “free Palestine” also didn’t kidnap or kill anyone. They just expressed an opinion, which is supposed to be protected. Without a fair trial, they can just be labeled as terrorists and sent to Gitmo. That opens a can of worms of human rights abuses.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:43 PM
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Protesting or signing petitions to their universities isn’t sympathizing with a group. Unless they are proven through court that they were directly funding terrorist groups, this is all just violating people’s rights to free speech. the January 6 protesters were walking around with all sorts of hate symbols and they were pardoned. Why this double standard? I’m not passing any judgement about trans people, but despite your argument justifying the actions, the point is that many people see this as…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:41 PM
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A lot of people find issue with people being sent to a maximum security prison not in their country of origin without a fair trial, even though due process is a right to everyone. Also people being kidnapped by officials in plain clothes, plain cars, and covered faces just because they spoke up about what they consider is a genocide in the Middle East. A lot of people also find it problematic that they’re putting so much effort and government resources just to target a few out of thousands kids …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 07:15 PM
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Okay, wall of text. That’s unrelated to what I said. I said that many women don’t consider a man who votes for Trump well adjusted. For many reasons. You’ve heard them all. Lots of them are valid.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:35 PM
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Many women don’t consider a man who votes for Trump well adjusted
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/25 06:22 PM
2

There’s plenty of sugar mommies too!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 02:29 PM
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Men can do that too. Plenty of gay sugar daddies
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/25 04:10 AM
0

We would be very good friends
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/25 07:59 AM

Treating women from third world countries like shit is activism?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 10:50 PM

He doesn’t see women as fully human. He refers to women as “fickle, shallow beings”.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/25 10:49 PM

What makes you think you’re an authority to speak for all women? You’re not one and based on your terrible, icel-y takes, probably never have gotten close to one.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 05:55 PM
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I don’t think they’re hypocritical. In my experience talking to girl friends and such, they don’t realize it themselves because there’s a lot of shame around it and it’s probably deep in their psyche. And a lot of girls straight up don’t care about money and will be okay with an ugly brokie who is funny, but when the lack of money causes problems, they’ll dance around what’s causing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:15 AM
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Women are too scared of being labeled as gold diggers. I don’t care. 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 06:11 AM
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Yes. If there’s chemistry, your brain makes them look hot even if they aren’t at first.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 01:42 AM
1

I meant cold approach is how people meet as a way of saying that it’s just a way to meet new people, not that it’s the main way people meet each other. I think you took my comment too literally. People meet all sorts of ways, and cold approaching is just a way people meet. Especially for older folks, who are more comfortable just striking conversation with strangers while out and about. I don’t know the percentages for each. I didn’t do a survey or a study. Sorry I don’t have the data for you. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 01:35 AM
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You’re just being weird about it, you know it. I know people who have met at clubs/bars/parties. Lots of people date that meet that way. Is “hey can I get you a drink” cold approaching? I just don’t survey how people meet because I never cared to. Cold approaching works when it works. Don’t do it if you don’t want to. I like people cold approaching me because I like meeting people. I think it would be better for society if people were more open to that type of community building.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 01:10 AM
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I don’t know how people be meeting. Do you want me to survey every couple I know? Make a Facebook post? You seem to have some emotional tie to this topic that’s making you respond so bitterly. Maybe improve your game so cold approaching works better for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/25 12:47 AM

That’s all in your fantasies. They just don’t do it with you because you’re miserable so the opposite probably happens. Your flaws come out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 11:23 PM
3

And how is that related to fucking old men for money?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 11:22 PM
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You’re the one that’s bringing that up for no reason. I don’t want old men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 09:15 PM
4

It is. Wanna buy me a Chanel bag?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 08:17 PM
1

You guys are so miserable. No wonder you’re lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 08:13 PM

Nobody sees you that way because you’re insufferable. OP is married, you’re miserable and hating. Keep seething.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:43 PM
2

My sexual interests matter a lot to me, so I prioritize them.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 07:42 PM
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I’ll tell them I want both and whoever stays I guess is the one. They can choose for me. If it were up to me, I’d have both. There’s plenty of love to go around for both, they’re not going to run out. So they can choose.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 06:07 PM
10

Yes. I have very specific and elaborate kinks so if a man does that for me and can buy me whatever I want, that’s the love of my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:42 PM
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I think women are very good at starting to find the appeal of someone who might not be conventionally attractive if they tick other boxes. They might not be striking at first but with conversation and chemistry they become hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:32 PM
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Money and sexual chemistry. I’m a simple woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:29 PM
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I’m not American so maybe that’s why. I think Americans are shy and don’t like cold approaching or to be approached like that. And American women can be pretty mean when you’re just trying to make friends. Must be worse if you’re trying to hit on them. I’m always very nice when guys hit on me. Takes courage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:28 PM
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Set and setting I suppose. If I’m out at any event where socialization happens, I’m okay with anyone just coming up to me and talking.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 05:21 PM
1

I have met plenty of people through cold approach. People come up to me often.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 04:14 PM
1

I don’t think anyone has ever told me that. Most couples I know have met through mutuals. What does this have to do with my comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 03:27 PM
1

Yes. That’s how people meet. Just don’t make it sexual and be age appropriate. If I look like your daughter or your little sister, stay away.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/25 01:17 PM
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What truth? Go to Walmart and tell me the average 50 year old man is as hot as the average guy at a college
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:53 PM

Classic man cope, acting like they’re as attractive in their 40s as a man in his 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/25 09:27 PM
2

Send me a DM when one of those women commit violent crimes. Men like Elliot Rodger on the other hand…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:36 PM
1

In management roles and in the battlefield. The military puts you where it needs you. You don’t get to choose. They’re out there, and you’re not.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 03:18 PM
1

They can, and they do. Did you know that there are plenty of women in the military nowadays? Now that they’re allowed to join. In fact, plenty of American women have died in combat, in that grim way you’ve described, but you have not. So you’re bitching and moaning about how women don’t fight, but I bet you wouldn’t even survive basic. Back in the day, they obviously couldn’t. They weren’t allowed! And even then, plenty did pick up a gun and fought.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 02:55 PM
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The “rape meme” Yea it’s gonna be a meme to you until you go through it. It’s not only women that suffer the consequences of the untamed cannon fodder. They also love to rape each other. Surely the mass rape of german women from children to women in their 80s was just them crying rape to get pity.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 02:43 PM
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While I get to fuck a Canadian or some Mexican, my husband will be out there raping women and creating bastard children. So many women were raped in Vietnam and so many half children created that they created a program to get them green cards. Or if we get invaded, then I will get raped by one of those soldiers because the cannon fodder starts acting like they own everything on the land they’re on. So I will keep my right to vote, earned it by millennia of uncaged animals subjugating us.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 01:59 AM
1

There hasnt been a draft in the US since Vietnam. You’re talking as if we’re actively sending millions of men to die.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 01:48 AM
5

Did you like it better when men could grope without consequences? It’s odd that you mention the “costumes aren’t consent” thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/25 01:30 AM
1

The notification pops up and I click on it right away hahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 12:39 AM
1

But then their morals and ethical limits are based only on the law. So it’s given to them. Those are the types that go to Japan to have sex with 13 year olds… it’s fucked. I don’t prefer to be dominant. I just like young guys. If I were to become a cougar I’d probably have to be more assertive… I don’t know hahahah this is funny to think about. I didn’t even think about that until a 20 year old was hitting on me and said “I like older women like you” and I thought “excuse me? Like me?” And even …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/25 12:34 AM
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The problem with the “as long as it’s above 18” is the implication that if the legal age was lower, they would go lower. As in, their barrier is just the legal consequence, rather than the ethics of it. In all honesty, I’m actually hoping that I will like older as I age! Because the thought of a man with gray hair on his chest gives me such an ick. They say older men are good lovers but I just like the muscle and soft skin of men around my age. I’m scared I’ll become a cougar instead lol
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 11:13 PM
2

Some preferences are problematic and unethical.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 09:34 PM
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It’s a report from a dating app, rather than a study. A study requires a random sample, control group, etc. Everyone finds 20 year olds hotter! You’re the hottest in your 20s, and takes much more effort to stay hot as you age. But people’s attraction goes beyond that. That’s why many older people say that although they find those young people hot, they’re too childish. It’s healthy that your taste matures and expands as you get older. A 40 year old man who fixates on youth, is not a healthy, wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:47 PM
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I’m telling you what the study YOU brought up says. Which, is not a valid study. There are plenty of gross, delusional men who hit up young asf girls. But most well adjusted people, although they see younger people as hot, will still prefer to date someone around their age. Maybe when you take more “uni” classes you will improve your critical reasoning.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:34 PM
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That’s so, so untrue. Men are delusional and will message young girls all the time. I’m in my early 20s and men that could be my dad or my grandpa don’t doubt for a second sliding into my DMs🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:24 PM
0

The best sex I ever had was with someone who never even went on a date at 25, almost 26. If the attraction is there, it’s whatever. The magic happens regardless.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 06:06 AM
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You’re the only one drawing that conclusion from those boomer Facebook memes. Nowhere does it say it’s because they want to dump their wives for an 18 year old girl (really weird of you to choose that particular age, almost like you’re saying all men are pedophiles and would go for 15 if they could). If it was about fertility, then that age would be mid 20s, not 18. At 18 a pregnancy is way riskier, and the menstrual cycle is not fully stabilized from puberty yet. That graph online is often misr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 05:03 AM
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They tell you themselves straight up that they prefer an 18 year old girl vs their ugly decrepit 40 year old wife? If that’s how all men feel about the woman they married, no doubt “women initiate most divorces”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 01:42 AM
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Do you ask every man over 40 you know if they prefer their decrepit wife or their daughters friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/25 01:21 AM
1

Or traditional 🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 09:53 PM
11

You have deep wounds of inferiority complex/insecurity that you should work on before you attempt to get into a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 05:41 AM
3

Damn you had to come back to comment a second wall of text?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:03 AM
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She’s missing out on earnings because she was a stay at home mom, and that allows the husband to work and make more because he gets the free domestic labor. It’s only fair
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/25 12:01 AM
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Red pill brainrot. Go get yourself an innocent blank slate child, chud
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 11:54 PM
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Being a soy doesn’t mean you can’t do lots of damage. At that point, it all comes down to preference because both nice guys and bad boys can ruin your life.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 06:45 AM

Soo traditional in Asia. Especially the ladyboys
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 04:48 AM

So why don’t they go to Utah? Or join their local church?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/02/25 03:51 AM
3

Come see
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 05:08 AM
3

You’re dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/25 05:01 AM
1

Some dealers just like the nervous awkward addicts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:32 PM
2

💯
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:23 PM
1

I love it when a man is trying to hit on me and stutters nervously
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/25 04:18 PM
2

🚩
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:21 PM
5

Age affects sperm quality
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 03:51 PM
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Sperm is better in younger men. Older men provide nothing but resources. Hot men smell nice and can produce normal kids. Old man sperm = autism sperm
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:14 AM
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Women like young guys. Older men smell and are weird when they’re the types to date girls my age.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/25 07:13 AM
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They are not the same because financial investment is different from physical/emotional intimacy, which is inherently more personal and directly tied to consent. Money is external and impersonal, but sex is a very physical and private act. You’re creating a false equivalence by conflating a financial gesture with access to someone’s body. Expecting financial investment is not the same as expecting intimacy because intimacy involves personal boundaries, bodily autonomy. They’re on fundamentally d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 04:06 AM
2

Again, my expectation of a man paying for dates isn’t about reducing the relationship to a transaction. It’s about valuing traditional gestures of effort and courtship. It’s not a payment for my appearance or presence, it’s just a way to show his investment. Forgive me if I’m wrong or patronizing, but are you a teen or a college student? There is definitely more to consider beyond just “time and presence”. Women have more at stake due to undeniable biological factors, so vetting for other things…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 03:07 AM
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I see a man paying and planning for dates for me as a gesture of appreciation and investment in a potential relationship, not as a direct” payment” for me showing up and being good looking. It’s not directly transactional. I don’t know how else to word this for you to understand, but the reason why it’s different from “nice guys” it’s because expecting sex because you’ve paid for a date actually reduces intimacy to a straightforward transaction, disregarding consent and emotional connection. Sur…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 02:56 AM
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I explained to you why it’s different already. Men aren’t entitled to sex for paying for a date. Sex ≠ beauty. They are entitled to feedback on how the date went, and potential reciprocity in the future. So, for example, if the girl keeps accepting dates, it is expected that at some point she will provide him with the intimacy he is seeking through the date planning. When a guy asks a pretty girl out for a date, he expects to go out with that pretty girl and hopefully, eventually get emotional a…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 01:27 AM
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Gym guys are the biggest chubby chasers lol
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 01:20 AM
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According to the National Center for Health Statistics, the obesity rates among men and women in the United States are as follows: Men: 40.3% Women: 39.7% https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db360.htm
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/25 12:56 AM
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I expect it because the effort I put into looking good is expected, it’s part of my “end” of a bargain as a pretty girl a guy is interested in taking out. It’s not the same as a guy expecting/demanding sex for planning and paying for a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 09:09 PM
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I didn’t! No worries :) That “nice guy” you describe is not entitled to a girls body the same way a girl is not entitled to the guys money. If they’re on a date, there’s a subtle expectation of reciprocity and generosity for whatever the other wants. I know that a guy is doing all of that because he wants something from me. I don’t have to fuck him if I don’t want to, but in my opinion, he deserves a thank you, feedback on the date and on future encounters (whether it went well and we should mov…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 07:23 PM
2

what really differentiates your mindset from theirs? Being nice to others is a given. Nobody deserves a reward for treating others like a human being. It’s not going above and beyond. I’m someone who visibly cares about being put together. When men come up to me, ask me out, my looks and “vibe” are a big reason for it. If someone asks out a VS model, they know she puts money and effort into her appearance, and it’s part of the appeal. They know she’s going to show up looking good, not in sweatpa…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:52 PM
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Of course it is entitled. In the end, it’s someone elses labor. There’s nothing inherent about me or about anyone that makes them “deserve” someone else’s money. It’s more about the standards I choose for myself and there’s lovely men that I like that are willing to entertain my desires. I don’t think it’s like a nice guy kind of thing because I don’t have anything against those who choose different dating dynamics. The difference is awareness and the handling of rejection. Nice guys can get sca…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:04 PM
2

If they feel like they can only impress the youngest girls possible, and they don’t need anything from a potential partner beyond impressing them, then they’re free to do so. Jeff Bezos feels like he can impress Lauren Sanchez and he likes her, Leo feels like he can impress early 20s models and he likes them. We go for the people we like, and get what we can get.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:42 PM
2

Protecting women from men is a big part of Islam lol
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:38 PM
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It’s a big selling point actually
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:37 PM
3

Conservative ideals around the separation of sexes predate feminism. Or are Talibans feminists now? Are feminists their inspiration?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:34 PM
2

I agree it is entitled, but thankfully for a man who doesn’t agree with this, there are plenty of women out there who think like you and will be happy with the dynamics you prefer. There are a lot of men who want and prefer a “high maintenance” woman over a simple, humble one. It’s all about preference. I would never shame a man for deciding to walk away because our expectations aren’t a match. It is what it is. If I like him a lot I’d certainly try to convince him hahaha but I wouldn’t blame hi…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 04:30 PM
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We’re in a capitalist society, and a nice date usually takes some resources. I mean, if I’m going on a date I’ll go get my hair done, maybe buy a nice outfit… my prep will usually cost more money than the date, so I expect some treating. A nice plan, some flowers. A walk in the park is just very low effort for the amount of effort I put in to impress my date. I’m not just showing up. I’m spending a day and a half prepping. I’m talking about one night stands because that’s the comment you respond…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:56 PM
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No it’s not basic media literacy. You must just spend a lot of time on trans-focused echo chambers because this is not usual topics. It’s very strange of you to blame feminists for an anti trans Trump executive order.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:43 PM
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Most people have no idea what ROGD is. I don’t understand why you’re blaming feminism for this. You’re actually blaming feminists for something the Trump admin did… when did Trump become a feminist icon?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:34 PM
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I don’t know, maybe if you push out the message that being a man is bad, people will want to prevent boys growing up to be men. Or what did you mean by this?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:23 PM
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Women have more to lose from one night stands. The biological truth is that women have more at stake when it comes to getting involved with men. It will never be equal so women should be more choosy and have a filter that goes beyond simple attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:19 PM
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In your previous comment you said that feminism is causing trans people, now you’re saying feminism is causing transphobia. You’re all over the place. Get a hold of your emotions because you’re not making sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:09 PM
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That’s a very strange train of thought that’s not compatible with reality. Take your schizo pills.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:06 PM
5

How is this feminism’s fault?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 03:01 PM
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Explain?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:49 PM
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Wow Chad. Speaking facts. They’re gonna start talking about how you’re just hot and “don’t get it” Blackpillers hate to see a self aware guy with rizz.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:24 PM
3

Well yea, hopefully when you have kids they don’t have to learn about bullshit pill stuff and online gender wars hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:19 PM
1

Some more than others 😏
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:18 PM
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Yes, I know. Plenty of girls that will give it up just over a couple of drinks. Not me. Went through college without a single one night stand meanwhile I saw my friends go home with the dustiest men.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:17 PM
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Sure I could’ve phrased it better, but the truth is that a woman’s youth is more valuable than a man’s youth and I don’t think women should waste their time with a Chad who takes her to walks in the park.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:16 PM
2

High School girls stay the same age am I right?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:14 PM
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Suit yourself. 15 year old girls are very naive and easily impressed. Check the laws before proceeding
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:14 PM
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You’re free to seek whatever dynamic you want and whatever works for you, nothing wrong with that. My point is that acknowledging that my time is more valuable, and expecting a man that will put effort into me does not mean I don’t value him as a person IF I like him. I could be obsessed with a guy but if he doesn’t treat me how I want I will be sad and frustrated but will not give in. So you’re right in that you can’t buy a woman’s attraction, but wrong in that she doesn’t like you if she expec…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:12 PM
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If it were your daughter, you’d also want her to be choosy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 02:08 PM
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My time IS more valuable as a woman. There is more at stake for women and less time (the wall is near). I only have so many good eggs in my lifetime. This is just biology, women are meant to be choosy so YES my time is more valuable! And as for the rest of your comment… I’m just materialistic and I’m hot enough to where that works out for me, but ideally I want those things from a guy I like and if a guy likes me and I don’t like him, I’d rather not lead him on because no matter what he does, if…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:46 AM
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How about you take me out on a date next 😁😁😁
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:30 AM
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I think that man usually exists when the girl is very young and hasn’t really (for lack of a better term) realized her worth. Eventually girls get jaded when they get played by said guy in High School or college and raise their standards for what they “expect” before leaving their home for a guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:22 AM
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Sure, I don’t completely disagree with what you say. If the attraction isn’t there, there’s no buying it, but putting 0 effort into the first few dates can definitely kill attraction. I like it when men I like spend money on me, but it definitely isn’t a requirement for all girls. Some will be happy with a sunset walk in the park… not me!
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 06:08 AM
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Yes it does. If the guy is hot and makes my pussy tingle but wants to cheap out and do the bare minimum, thats a huge turn off. Some effort puts on the rose colores glasses, but that’s if I already like him. There’s no buying a girl’s attraction.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/25 05:57 AM
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Most rape isn’t violent. How is it a false accusation to damage someone’s reputation if according to you, they won’t even give a name?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/25 04:06 PM
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Biological fitness and memetic fitness are not the same thing, even if they interact. They operate on different levels and have different selective pressures. Your argument conflates the two. You’re saying that feminism as a meme is “evolutionary unfit” because it reduces population growth. Correlation doesnt imply causation. Lower birth rates are also reflective of better access to education and healthcare. Social phenomena can’t be so simplified to biological terms, especially to push an agend…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:54 PM
3

It is true that climate change is not an “apocalypse” per se. But it is an important threat to global stability, food security, and ecosystems we rely on. The scientific consensus is pretty clear. It’s ridiculous we’re still on this denial about that. You’re trying to appear as neutral simply presenting an argument. But it’s full of bias. There’s no evidence to support your claim thst feminism is driving down population sustainability. The success of a population isn’t just about numbers, but al…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 10:35 PM
1

Men swipe right on anyone with a pulse on dating apps because they’re desperate, not because they’re attracted to that 50% of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/02/25 04:27 PM
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What abstraction? Sex isn’t a need regardless of the mental gymnastics you do to make an argument that it is. It’s NOT
/r/PurplePillDebate06/02/25 02:57 PM
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Not lying. Top of my class sir. I graduated, you’re still in school. Women are outperforming men. I’m not saying women are superior, nor advocating for feminism. YOU are the one saying women are retarded and only engage in useless things lol. That’s all projection coming from you. You have no leg to stand on to talk about any sort of sexism when you have such a homoerotic, misogynistic perception of society. Just date men and hang out with them if women r so bad for u to b around
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 10:44 PM
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It’s all projection 🤣 men are the kings of hypergamy. Stacey chasers
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 10:38 PM
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You’re in trade school, I graduated summa cum laude in a STEM field. I’d like to see YOU in an engineering classroom lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 10:35 PM
1

Women are outdoing men in education. Men think playing videogames all day is “hobbies” lol 🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:40 PM
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Men are also after Staceys. They always swipe right on them
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:31 PM
1

You gotta have worms in your brain if you think we’re turning into Afghanistan lmaoo
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:27 PM
2

Find me a male equivalent to Gisele Pelicot. Find me telegram groups where they do those things to men, like men do to women. YOUR comment is nonsense. You know who the main perpetrators of this are. It’s not women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:24 PM
2

Men love flexing how much money they have to women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 09:23 PM
2

The point is the same. Men are creepier and scarier than women. Women don’t do things like that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/25 03:00 AM
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Made to penetrate numbers still pale in comparison to all the ways in which men victimize women. I’m not talking only about sexual assault. Men lead in violent crimes, human trafficking etc etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:23 PM
2

Usually older women are conservative because they’re bitter and want to punish younger girls for their creepy husband staring at them at the grocery store. Invalidate what experiences? Men aren’t victimized by women the same way women are victimized by men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 05:16 PM
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It caters to people’s low behaviors and creates a feedback loop of objectification and shame. That doesn’t mean that’s what people want real life to be like. It’s just zoochosis
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:16 PM
1

There’s plenty on Telegram porn channels. People sharing creep shots, blackmailing groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:13 PM
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They’re real people swiping on a meat market full of bots, riff raff, catfish… You gotta beat the algorithm if you want to be seen more as a man. Also, there are A LOT of men on dating apps. It’s just not representative of real life. I saw more official data on it getting debunked but I dont have it in me to look it up to send it to you, so my word is all you get, but I’m not just making shit up. If you go to a brothel, men are gonna be choosing the “hottest” women, the top staceys there… doesn’…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:10 PM
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They want it whether the women want their companionship or not. Hence the government mandated girlfriends argument
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:00 PM
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It is NOT as bad. Misogyny takes human rights away from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 04:00 PM
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It’s crazy cuz “misandry” is just wanting men to leave us alone. Unlike misogynists who instead of saying “I hate women” they talk about government mandated girlfriends, taking away our rights… misogyny has tangible consequences. Misandry doesn’t even move the needle. Men’s egos are so fragile. Rejection to them is the same as being victimized and abused by the demographic that victimizes and abuses the most.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:53 PM
-1

Dating apps aren’t real life, that’s how. It’s bs research not grounded in reality that for some reason red pillers cling onto
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 03:46 PM
0

Doesn’t really reflect on reality
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 01:32 PM
6

It’s exhausting when men do this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/25 12:10 AM
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Because he doesn’t give a fuck. He knows what he looks like, he’s happy to have a hot woman be his trophy wife. You know how many men I’ve straight up told them “i dont like you, I don’t want you” and that changes nothing. If they think you’re hot and they want you that’s all that matters to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 02:46 AM
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I don’t know why people think Trump gives a fuck if Melania doesn’t want to touch him. He’s just happy to be there. When will women learn that men don’t really care about whether we like them back or not
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/25 01:25 AM
1

You’re the one seething on weeks old comments making up scenarios in your head all stemming from your self image issues🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 10:13 PM
1

Right back at ya. We’re all better off without those faulty genes of yours in the pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 09:20 PM
1

I can comprehend your points, they’re just strawmen because you’re making up positions I didn’t take to argue against. I see you’re one of those insufferable people that are incapable of taking any accountability for their laziness because “but what about people with disabilities” like, okay if you have a disability it doesn’t apply to you obviously, stop attention whoring to detract from the main points. All of your seething walls of texts that you keep editing are unnecessary, pathetic, and re…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 08:37 PM
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You’re writing sob stories unrelated to my point and editing your comments multiple times after the fact. You’re just coming across and coping and seething on behalf of people who aren’t even the point of discussion here. It’s pathetic. Recognizing that physical appearance matters for attraction ≠ tying women’s entire human value to their appearance. You are incapable of coming up with an argument without strawmen. You’re just looking for something to be mad at. Fix your self esteem or your diet…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 06:48 PM
1

I haven’t even used the acronym “SMV” you’re all in your feels over nothing. You’re out here bringing up people with CANCER and other degenerative diseases just cuz I said staying fit and hot as you age will get you more attention. It’s the TRUTH. It’s one of the harsh things to come to terms with if you have one of those diseases OR if you let yourself go because you didn’t prioritize healthy living. People are visual. When I see someone hot while out I’m like damn they look good! Love the shoe…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 05:30 PM
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Because idk what hurt your ego so much about what I said over two weeks ago that it made you come to pick a fight with walls of texts, but not to the person I was responding to, who was particularly rude and demeaning. Do you have a degenerative disease? I just can’t comprehend what your emphasis on this is. There’s obviously only so much we can do and even the most fit and “healthy” person will continue to age and perhaps get a condition that will be stronger than their uphill fight to stay hot…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 05:01 PM
1

Why are you yelling at ME and not at the other mf I was responding to, who was saying that the average 40 yr old woman is ugly, wrinkling and infertile? I’m not saying old age ailments aren’t going to come for you if you take care of yourself, I’m not giving health advice. Stop strawmanning my points just to make yourself feel better about letting yourself go. If you think letting yourself go just to stick it to the patriarchy is going to make men objectify you less, go ahead. I like my partner …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:43 PM
1

People who look better have more leverage and more opportunities in dating… that’s just the way it is, that’s the way it has been even before TRP became a thing… It’s not about avoiding the aging process. It’s going to happen either way, but if you take care of yourself by eating healthy, exercising, and keeping a nice wardrobe you will do better than someone who doesn’t. Society does put so much weight on women’s appearances, and we never get a break. But hate the game, not the player. I’m stil…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 04:21 PM
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I’m saying that their “value” doesn’t drop as they age. Someone that takes care of their health and appearance as they age is also attractive, theres no way to avoid that.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 03:13 PM
-5

Men have access to the same support and resources women have
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/25 12:10 AM
12

You in particular have the most unhinged takes. All projection on your part tbf
/r/PurplePillDebate25/01/25 03:25 AM
1

Once the child exists, mothers are also “forced” to provide and care for the child. Abortion isn’t about discharging financial responsibility, it’s about bodily autonomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/25 04:31 PM
5

That’s only a fantasy in your head. Why do you spend so much of your energy fantasizing about hot men? In reality, young women date/lust after all sorts of people, depending on who they “click” with. I think it’s you who has the fixation on hot, muscular men. Very homoerotic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/25 03:45 PM
1

So you were playing with words to try to make your point? Sure you can get any stats you want if you make up your own definitions of things. Made to penetrate is sexual assault, forced penetration is rape. Made to penetrate isn’t considered rape. Forced penetration is. Most perpetrators of rape on male victims are men. Male victims should be an actual concern to you, but you’re weaponizing their tragedy to “own the feminists”. You don’t actually care.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 03:01 AM
1

The articles you referenced do not support the claim that half of all male sexual victims were assaulted by women, or that half of all male domestic abuse victims are abused by women. First article says that among men who were “made to penetrate”, 79% reported female perpetrators… this statistic pertains to the “made to penetrate” category, not all forms of sexual assault. The Scientific American article says the same thing. The research gate article emphasizes overall rates of perpetration. I d…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/25 12:57 AM
1

Accountability for what specifically tho? You’re not saying anything of substance.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 11:03 PM
1

There are plenty of stats out there for male victims! They’re victims of other men tho, that’s the thing. You’re repeating lies that are easy to debunk. If you were “exposing” lies, you’d have sources for them. But all You do is repeat the same lie as if that made it true. Male victims are victims of other men, cope harder. “Biased sources” crime data is biased? Lmao. You just live in a world of fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 10:38 PM
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Why do red pillers love to repeat the idea that women are these evil seductresses that make men commit crimes? Give me a break. We’re all responsible for our actions. You can’t kill someone and say you were manipulated by a woman. You chose to end someone else’s life. Women have always been scapegoated, blamed for men’s crimes. And then you mfs wanna say women have no “accountability”
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/25 12:38 AM
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Men also get praise from other men when they talk about “land whales”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 06:43 PM
1

You’re being purposefully obtuse. There are men who FAKE these things, they build a persona that isn’t authentic just for the PURPOSE of pulling.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 05:46 AM
1

She’s not doing it to get men
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 05:44 AM
1

Fake glasses.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 05:41 AM
1

Men will fake a whole style and hobbies that they don’t actually have just to pull. I’ve seen men wear fake glasses hoping theyd fit a certain mold that way to get some women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 05:40 AM
1

Guys larp ALL the time to get women. They know they’re dull
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 05:34 AM
3

You talk about women here like they’re resources to be divided up amongst men.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 05:03 AM
2

I love this ahahahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 05:00 AM
2

Nobody feels entitled to Luigi. Girls just like him and support his cause.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 04:55 AM
3

You might want to have a day of introspection regarding your homoerotic feelings for a smooth chad.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 04:51 AM
1

Fr that sounds like a nightmare scenario
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 04:50 AM
2

For real. Just to test if they’ll call me out on it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 04:37 AM
2

Bfs do the same thing with girls. Lots of guys have no hobbies, artistic taste, etc and they will pick up whatever indie artist his girl shows him and he’ll use that “inside” girl knowledge to get with more. This is how indie boys tend to be
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/25 04:36 AM
5

Why would you say that to anyone? So rude
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 01:53 PM
2

Women do steal baby food all the time. Formula shelves are often locked.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:12 AM
1

So what should one do anyways? Men bitch and bitch cuz women are chadsexuals and don’t give normal guys a chance, but when it turns out we do, then it’s bad and out of pity?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:11 AM
3

Luigi did what everyone with cripping pain and who has dealt with insurance bs in their lives of families has thought about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:07 AM
1

No. But if you do that at billionaire conference they might
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:07 AM
2

Men have committed more violent crimes than women since the dawn of time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:04 AM
2

Female strip clubs are much more common than male strip clubs. This is delusional
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 07:02 AM
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You don’t pay taxes, NEET. Mad at nothing lmao
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:45 AM
2

All women like men with resources. Women aren’t picky for looks if the man has resources, but men don’t care about resources as much as they care about a woman’s beauty.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:42 AM
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Nobody expects random black pillers who are socially starved, resentful, and out of shape to save them. There’s no hypocrisy. Why do you keep trying to have an argument nobody’s having? You’re not expected to save anyone nor pay child support because nobody bothers to give you a second look. Must be why you’re attention whoring so bad on this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:41 AM
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You don’t ever hear that. Just the voices in your head.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:36 AM

I’d say So you’re full of shit
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:35 AM
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Nobody expects your help. You’re not in shape
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:33 AM

Unrelated to the topic, chud
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 06:26 AM

What does that have to do with the comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 03:13 AM

They’re lying to you. Do you believe everything strippers tell you? Lol
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:50 AM

Yea it happens in lots of places. It’s still fucked up that men talk about commodifying women’s bodies and intimacy as a solution to their problems.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:47 AM

Bought consent isn’t consent. You’re just paying them to tolerate fucking you. They still don’t want to though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:44 AM

Men aren’t entitled to buy women’s bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:43 AM

Lack of accountability for what?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/25 02:37 AM
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Male victims are victims of male perpetrators. women are 91% of rape victims, men are 9%, not half men aren’t half of the victims of DV either Why are you repeating lies over and over? Regardless of your walls of text and seething, men are more violent towards everyone. Both men and women. Your philosophy of male victimhood is based on false stats. Male victims are victims of MALE violence. Female victims are victims of MALE violence. MALE violence is a problem in society. I didn’t say I’m a fem…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 02:33 PM
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What oppression? You’re the one jumping to those conclusions. Violent crime affects men too, but again, men are the main perpetrators. You seem to have a hard time to cope with that because it contradicts your personal philosophy of male victimhood. All of those issues you mention aren’t caused by women. Why do you want to be a victim so bad? You obviously don’t give a fuck about women who are violently assaulted by MEN, so why would I advocate for MEN who are assaulted by MEN? This all just sup…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/25 03:43 AM
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Rape accusations amount to nothing most of the time. Plenty of men in power formally accused. Proof and all and they’re fine. This is such a boogeyman. More women die from infidelity accusations by their partner, than men from being accused of rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:51 PM
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Starting gossip isn’t the same as men beating up women (and people in general) at a much higher rate. You wish. Women are not equally violent. Gossip isn’t violence. Rape is, and half of domestic and rape victims aren’t men at the hands of women. From your link: “Despite the claims that violence is gender-symmetrical (Straus 2010), in which it is proposed that women and men are similarly violent (for example, if you ask: have you ever been hit by your partner?), men do most interpersonal, ‘domes…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:45 PM
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You sent me a link to a youtube vid as some sort of counter argument for mens violent tendencies. Social harm is something everyone participates in, but violent crime is tangible and men do more of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:29 PM
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What bias? What hate? Men literally hurt people way more often than women. They dominate the violent crimes field. That’s a hard fact. Why do you keep arguing with strawmen? being different doesnt mean one is superior
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:25 PM
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Seething wall of text. Didn’t read. No double standards. I get called out on bs all the time. Humans looove calling people out on bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:14 PM
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All violent crimes, men commit at higher rates. You know this, we all know this. Why are you pretending this isn’t the case?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:10 PM
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I think you’re just mad at something and are using this as an outlet. I don’t see that double standard honestly. People get called out on bs all the time and theyre clowned for it regardless
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:08 PM
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Calling out bullshit isn’t sex specific
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:04 PM
2

A video by healthygamergg isn’t proof that women are just as violent. You know what is proof that men are much, much more violent than women? crime stats.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 10:03 PM
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That’s not hypergamy. A few thousand isn’t really dating up, it’s just that men tend to make more. Rich men aren’t marrying Target cashiers.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 12:53 AM
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All men are simps for women they like. Men online talk this talk but won’t walk the walk if a girl they like gives them attention lol
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 12:40 AM
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You should anyways 😮‍💨
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/25 12:32 AM
1

Nice try, I’m not doxxing myself. Just look up your local police department’s facebook page. Or download the MobilePatrol app. Lots of DV uglies
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 02:44 AM
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Unattractive abusers are pretty common. Look at your local jail intake pics, lots of DV and they’re ugly asf. Your premise is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 02:06 AM
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I didn’t say women aren’t violent
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:52 AM
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Nobody picks to be abused. Victim blaming is not a fine or groundbreaking argument. Abusers look all sorts of ways. Some are hot, some not so much. You’re spewing looksmaxxing brainrot. If a woman was an active participant in the crime she will go to jail too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:49 AM
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Women aren’t as violent as men. Numbers don’t lie
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:28 AM
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You picked a fight for no reason calling out a “hypocrisy” you’re unable to explain without resorting to fallacies. Leave those thoughts as abstractions in your mind if you can’t formulate an actual argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:27 AM
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No. What I said had substance and you came out here picking a fight with arguments full of holes and fallacies.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:25 AM
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Useless words and pointless argument. Think things through in advance.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:23 AM
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You didn’t make an argument though, you’re just emotionally regurgitating debunked rhetoric and projecting your own insecurities. Hot men always in your mind, had to bring it up when it had nothing to do with the main argument. Classical incel rhetoric. Hitler was in charge of the whole thing. If a woman is directly involved with a crime, she will get locked up too. You’re trying to scapegoat women so bad but it’s not working out. Being a weak simp isn’t a good defense in court if you decide to …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:23 AM
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You’re coming up with arguments I didn’t make and making a point out of them. I never said women are more mature and communicative yet you’re rambling about it and Reddit posts. Something you want to get out of your chest? We’re a social species and social pressure is powerful for everyone. You’re a sheep in your own way. In ways you don’t even notice.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:16 AM
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I do get to, it’s exactly what I did.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:14 AM
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Social pressure is powerful. This is so, so unrelated to the scapegoating of women for being “dangerous seductresses” that manipulate men into committing violent crimes for them. If you commit a violent crime it’s on you. You’re creating a false dichotomy. What are you talking about on your last comment? Anyone can have communication issues. Stop with the strawmen.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:10 AM
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You’re deep in your delusions. Social conditioning makes women more passive and better at things like “reading the room” and subtle social finesse bc of it. People are still responsible for their own violent crimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:05 AM
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All bs emotional blabbering. Fix your self esteem. Nothing excuses sexual abuse and all sorts of abuse goes unpunished. You want to act as if all women have to do is point fingers and that destroys a man’s life when the reality is that nothing happens to abusers most of the time, even when the proof is out there for everyone to see. men continue to be the main driving force If someone’s committing violent crimes that’s on them. From your own screenshot of my very based comment: Not all men, but …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 01:02 AM
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If accusations are enough to end a guys life, how come the VAST majority of sexual abuse perpetrators never step a foot in jail? how come we have so many powerful figures in politics that have been formally accused and it didn’t change anything? The reality is that no matter how much playing victim, crying and pointing fingers women do, most of the time accusations (real or not) amount to nothing. Yet men continue to be the main perpetrators of violent crime. I think you genuinely hate women and…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 12:40 AM
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Atrocities such as what? How are women masterminds? Bullshit deflection to keep blaming women. Out of the cage to go do needed labor and back in the cage. Where am I saying that? Quote me
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 12:19 AM
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Framing women as “masterminds” burdens them with responsibility. Women have always been scapegoated for men actions, throughout history, and you’re equating it to real male violence. If men are oh so helpless in the face of female allure, then they should be locked in cages and fed like wild, untamed animals that can’t be trusted with their actions. We are all ultimately responsible for our own choices. Quit blaming women and quit stigmatizing female sexuality as if it’s something mystical, dang…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/25 12:00 AM
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Men don’t have minds of their own? 🤣 “Those EVIL, seductive, dangerous women manipulate men” Tale as old as time meant to absolve men of responsibility for their actions. Lilith, Delilah, Eve… men are not helpless victims of female cunning. That narrative is harmful.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:45 PM
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Women don’t kill people like men do
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:26 PM
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No you haven’t
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/25 11:22 PM
1

Settle down as in getting into a long term relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 03:24 AM
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But what is attractive? They’re certainly attractive enough to still be able to settle down after a divorce. Nobody expects a 45 year old to look like a 20 year old, but that age comes with other attractive things people grow to appreciate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:52 AM
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They stay attractive enough to remarry quick no issues. Couples divorce and the woman has a new husband within a couple years, it’s the husband that struggles to find a new partner usually.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:41 AM
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Most women do. Especially if they stay somewhat attractive. Good looking 45 yr old divorcee? She’s doing just fine
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:23 AM
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People remarry and have rosters well into their 40s, 50s. These bs theories and fantasies about the SMV of older women just sound like revenge fantasies. Touch grass
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 02:15 AM
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I wasn’t asked any question to dance around by the person I was responding to. You’re already biased and have your mind made up so, wyd? Not denying the things you said in the latter half of your comment. That’s different from the incel revenge fantasies I was responding to earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:45 AM
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What’s the point of this goofy socratic? Get to the point. It’s not like anything I say would change your mind
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:34 AM
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Are you on the spectrum? Not asking to be rude. I’m just wondering if there’s any neurological reason that might prevent you from reading subtext. There’s always an air of bitterness and revenge fantasy when this topic is discussed. As if aging, instead of being something natural that happens to the lucky ones, it’s a punishment that will finally humble women and get them what they deserve for not dating him when young.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/25 12:28 AM
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Whatever helps you cum tbh. You guys are so strange
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:07 AM
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I think you are
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:06 AM
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Nobody said anything about princess treatment. Are you also fantasizing about those bitches that didn’t give you attention in their 20s, finally getting ugly, disgusting, and invisible?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:04 AM
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What’s the criticism in his comment? That was all him fantasizing. You’re in denial
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/25 08:02 AM
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I think more about specific scenarios than about actual people
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 10:07 PM
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Have you? I’m not the one who made a throwaway account to be rabid. Lots of accumulated frustrations?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 09:20 PM
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Lots of hatred in your comment hun. You good?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 09:08 PM
1

Salma Hayek is pretty hot imo. I doubt she’d struggle to get a bf if she was looking
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 09:03 PM
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Hot people always have leverage, regardless of their age. No amount of fantasizing will influence reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 09:01 PM
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The market just changes. People remarry all the time and are fine. Again, just weird revenge fantasies that don’t reflect reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:59 PM
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If you’re attractive in your 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, you’ll always have lots of options. It just takes more effort to stay hot as you age.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:55 PM
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It’s really strange how some men have this fantasy of “putting women in their place” as in to collectively punish them for rejecting them when they were young.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/25 08:49 PM
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Lmao not true. Why are you making a whole argument based on assumptions? Men don’t fight for custody cuz they dont wanna. Simple as. Women are usually the main caregivers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/25 01:46 AM
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Kids end up with the mom because of a mutual agreement. Most of the time men don’t seek full custody
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/25 07:31 PM
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Men are on welfare too. This is completely different
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:28 AM
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Show every woman you’re interested in this comment please, so she can make an informed decision.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:24 AM
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Do you have those studies? Nothing shows for me when I google besides a 2008 DailyMail article
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:21 AM
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What studies show women are more likely to lie about cheating and their n counts? And how do you get those numbers? Wouldn’t it be surveys as well?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/24 04:18 AM
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I’ve had that issue
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:48 PM
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Women’s grooming is more expensive and time consuming. And again, if you like a woman, you pursue. It’s nature. You seem like a socially well adjusted person, but when guys don’t get much platonic attention they’re often entitled and when they show that “entitlement” especially when it’s a guy we actually like for LTR, alarms start going off. People just have their own pace and boundaries they’re comfortable with, it doesn’t mean they don’t like you. You shouldn’t take it personally. I like to f…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:30 PM
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A paid meal isn’t the incentive men think it is imo. The outfit, makeup, hair, nails etc is already many times more expensive than the meal. I think a lot of girls entertain dates they don’t like that much because they like the attention from a nice, good looking guy, that’s priceless compared to the meal. I didn’t think about the touching part though. I’m not affectionate at all and I think I have made people feel what you feel. It’s not on purpose, I’m just not a touchy person. But many times …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:12 PM
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Why would she keep spending time with you if she didn’t like you though? There’s gotta be something she provides if you keep asking her out? Is it really all about sex and a bj?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 08:03 PM
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Yes, women are focusing more on self preservation because there’s more at stake for women. There are way more risks that we’re taking so that just makes women more choosy. It’s never going to be a 50/50 thing. Men are the pursuers so if you like a girl, you invite her out to show her you’d be a good partner (truthfully or not) and she decides. It’s just biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:47 PM
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Works pretty well honestly. I’ve always been treated really good.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:41 PM
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Girls just want to protect their feelings because when we show too much interest it’s a turnoff for guys. It’s a complicated dance for sure but since there’s more at stake for women that just happens. Always riding the line of “showing enough interest so he doesn’t get bored but not too much so he doesn’t get turned off”
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:38 PM
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Sounds tough. You really can’t force love huh
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:34 PM
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So you guys do notice that once a girl fucks you, you get less interested? Because it happens so thats why if there’s a guy we actually like we try to withhold so it doesn’t happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 07:28 PM
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Hahahahaha I don’t know how else to put it. It’s like hacking into men’s Madonna/Whore complex
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:46 PM
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I think it’s liking the dominance and assertiveness and that often goes with that. Confidently saying “I know what you need and you will get it.” It can definitely become problematic and I’m sure people will discuss this in the future as more agreeable men become “trendy” again.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:44 PM
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We’re trending trad nowadays. We’re poorer so women as a whole are probably trending towards more traditionally masculine (even toxic) traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:37 PM
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You’re the only one including physical attractiveness into this. I want my LTR to be hot. I wouldn’t settle for an ugly guy for a LTR. I don’t do Tinder hookups or anything like that but the mindset for that is getting dicked down and bye. Man for the streets. LTR there’s more to consider and more at stake.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 06:05 PM
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Guys often lie about wanting something serious just so they can get a hookup. So as a girl wanting something serious, you wait before fucking because you like him and are hoping he likes you enough and it will work. I don’t know if guys don’t notice this, but it happens so much that once you give a guy some pussy he will just stop acting interested. I don’t know what this bullshit in you guys brains is but when we withhold, it’s like sunk cost hits and after enough time and $ investment you actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 05:58 PM
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Girls don’t seem to like that nowadays. I wonder if it’s the economy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 05:53 PM
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Yes. Be more assertive and take control. It’s hot when men choose for you (planning the date, having recommendations, etc) Ymmv tho
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 05:48 PM
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Mid men already focus on Staceys mostly and put more effort into them than into a femcel. This is not groundbreaking advice, men already do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/24 03:17 AM
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Gift your wife some botox and ozempic and you’ll see how weak you get. You just don’t like her that much. That’s why you’re so mad you had to respond to 3 of my comments
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 02:07 AM
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It happens naturally. If he’s a good partner a woman just relaxes and follows his lead.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 02:06 AM
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Men’s instinct to pursue, provide, and protect is in their DNA. Kitchens aren’t. Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate25/12/24 02:05 AM
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If your argument here isn’t to define that then why do you start your comment by defining it for me? 🥱 did i touch a nerve? Men are always dtf, women aren’t. It’s just biology that it takes a bit more effort to get the woman to want to fuck and to be passionate. It’s not something that can be changed. If my partner isn’t making me happy I just won’t get horny, I can’t control that. But men you just flirt a little and they’re ready, even if in the middle of a fight.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 11:07 PM
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I won’t want to fuck him if he’s not making me happy. Being a good provider and partner is part of being caring. You don’t stop pursuing/flirting just because you’re already in a relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 10:40 PM
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Men are the pursuers and the providers. It is what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 09:09 PM
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Pull out
/r/PurplePillDebate24/12/24 04:01 AM
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The only difference is that OP is simply making shit up, meanwhile men have oppressed and used women without concern for their emotions and humanity for millennia. But women bad because hypergamy lolol
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:38 PM
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So why didn’t you have the same reaction to OPs points about women not feeling love?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:36 PM
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No wayy
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:34 PM
1

Wage labor existed, but its role and scope was very different from the capitalist labor market that developed later. Subsistence farming and communal support were very important, and women participated in ways that were considered more “essential”. It wasn’t invisible to society back then. Capitalism disrupted this system in a way that disadvantaged women disproportionately. For example, enclosure hurt single women/widows more because they relied on common lands for subsistence, and the focus on…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:21 AM
2

What? To me?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 05:01 AM
6

Sounds like it made you big mad and you don’t know why. Emotional
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 04:58 AM
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Then argue those points
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:41 AM
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The point is that men are wired to do the most for a girl they like. So if he isn’t chasing you he doesn’t like you that much. You think these incels would be bitching about paying for dinner if they got a date with Margot Robbie?🤣🤣
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 03:08 AM
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The development of capitalism made “work” be waged labor, like outside of the home, at a factory, store, office, etc. so that created a divide between whats considered productive labor (work in the public sphere where people earn wages, considered valuable by society) and reproductive labor (unpaid, in the private sphere and not as valued bc theres no money being generated bc unpaid) which women were relegated to. In feudalism, women’s labor contributed directly to the family economy thru cottag…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/24 02:59 AM

Stand up girl Your genes say it. You come with built in pain and something so valuable it makes men start wars and build monuments. Don’t be chasing nobody
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 10:23 PM

Pick mes are an aberration
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 10:13 PM
1

Burden of proof buddy. “Trust me bro” isn’t facts
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:23 PM
1

Show me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:18 PM
1

Says who? You?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:13 PM
1

That dehumanization and objectification gives men MORE power and status in society. There’s an actual systemic reward to that. Men are expected to provide material value and that results in tangible rewards. Women are expected to provide aesthetic and emotional value with little, intangible rewards.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:10 PM
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It’s anti feminists that want women not working only shitting out babies and performing unpaid labor. These issues you mention are not a consequence of feminism, they’re a consequence of patriarchal structures.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:07 PM
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Men are expected to be providers, but they are rewarded with respect, power, and privilege when they fulfill this role, and its easier for men to work their way up. There are structural rewards with this. Higher social status, leadership opportunities… Women are expected to be hot, but even when they comply, there’s still objectification, devaluation, dismissal. Pretty privilege is not real power. It doesn’t grant women meaningful benefits. Beauty fades, plus it’s reductive and dehumanizing. All…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:04 PM
1

Arguments are right up there. You’re free to debate my points. Feminism isn’t one of them though, you lost there
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 07:57 PM
1

False equivalence. Patriarchy gives men the privilege of navigating those situations and expectations differently. There aren’t systemic disadvantages or punishments if they choose to keep their money and split bills. Women suffer from real world consequences if they defy these expectations. What’s the worst that can happen to you?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 07:55 PM
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I didn’t say that. Your arguments are so, so weak you literally cannot come up with one that isn’t full of fallacies. Strawman again. You don’t have the cognitive function for these types of conversations, drop it
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 07:28 PM
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Not what I said. Strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 07:20 PM
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No it’s not. That’s an appeal to emotion. Weak
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 06:39 PM
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No. False equivalency. Courtship is biology. Domestic labor isn’t. In a capitalist society, courtship involves money, but the money part isn’t biology. Even for casual sex there’s courtship from men. “Can I buy you a drink?” Some dancing some rizzing up. For an actual relationship the man is still pursuing. In a moneyless utopia the man will still spend his time and effort going to the woods to get some flowers. But we’re not in a moneyless utopia so women want to see what that wallet do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 06:32 PM
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Clutch those pearls. It’s the truth
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 06:08 PM
2

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:18 PM
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Courtship isn’t gender roles, it’s biology. You’re not obligated to court a woman, you just can’t help yourself when you see a woman you like because biology. Monkey brain want to impregnate monkey brain have to perform
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:14 PM
2

Are women making it up or something? What’s your beef?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 05:02 PM
2

You’re fighting strawmen. Men put up an act of generosity and thoughtfulness to hide their abusive tendencies. Have you heard of love bombing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:59 PM
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Happens more often with girls that decide to be pick mes and chase and pay for their mans
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:54 PM
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Back at you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:40 PM
2

Women like generosity and thoughtfulness, so women will select for men who are generous and thoughtful
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:40 PM
1

Men say that and vote like that anyways regardless of what I say 🤷🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:38 PM
1

Hell nah don’t quote me. I just benefit because I’m really hot. Don’t throw the femcels at me
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:33 PM
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It does, yes. We’re in a capitalist, consumerist culture where that biological courtship is translated into: pay up. Doesn’t have to be that way though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:32 PM
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Idk what ur talking ab
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:31 PM
1

It’s whatever. There’s bigger problems in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:22 PM
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She will be more likely to do those things if you show her that you’re worth that effort. It’s biology. Women have more to risk from accepting a partner so they will be more choosy naturally. Plenty of women like chasing and splitting bills too, that’s fine. It’s just less likely to happen because biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:21 PM
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Men these days are weak and feminine. Courtship is biology.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:18 PM
1

Not at all. It’s completely different things. If you live im the West, splitting is normalized. Nobody is denying men jobs if they don’t pay for dinner. But women are denied jobs for not pleasing the male gaze.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:12 PM
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The male gaze is omnipresent. You are dismissing the cultural forces that shape human behavior. It’s not individual men forcing women to perform femininity, it’s about how our culture that prioritizes male pleasure and the objectification of womens bodies rewards women who “perform” better. Not just socially, but professionally. Why do flight attendants have to be thin, hot, and groomed to a specific standard? It’s a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:10 PM
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We discussed that claim already. Women had political representation in communist countries BEFORE they did in capitalist countries. Being victimized by totalitarian regimes is a completely different issue. They weren’t targeted/oppressed for being women, so these aren’t women’s rights issues. You know you came out here being confidently regarded and your claims were disproved so now you’re grasping at straws but all you’re doing is embarrassing yourself. Just drop it lol
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:04 PM
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Waxing hurts 😔
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 04:00 PM
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When you like a girl, you ask her out to show her you would be a good partner. We’re animals, it’s courtship. She will still put lots of effort in looking good for you though. Doing her hair, makeup, pretty clothes, not eating all day so she doesn’t look bloated, waxing her brows and mustache, etc etc. in hopes that you will think she’s hot and will keep courting her. Once in a relationship, when commitment is secured, she will probably cook meals you like, remember your favorite things, give yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 03:59 PM
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Performing femininity helps with social capital. I choose what I want to do based on that. Thankfully these days I don’t have to get married to someone I hate and start popping out kids and caring for them and the house, but I do have to put on some makeup to improve my odds of getting a job.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 03:54 PM
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Why do you have to resort to logical fallacies to make an argument? Is your position that weak? Sad Socialist countries were much, much better for women’s rights. Being a head of state isn’t the end all say all of women’s rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 03:49 PM
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Reciprocation how? She’s going on the date with you and having a good time. Is that not what you want?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 03:41 PM
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And those are much heavier than paying for dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 03:39 PM
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The Soviet system had elections to councils at all levels. Local to national. A different system from Western democracies for sure, but people did vote. And women in addition to participating in that voting process, could also run for positions… before women could vote in the US. Alexandra Kollontai, again, before women could vote in the US, implemented policies that we are STILL fighting for in the US such as maternity leave and abortion rights. The USSR sent women to space before many US colle…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 03:35 PM
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If you bring the snacks, towels and have a nice experience planned out, you’re already more of a gentleman than these men acting like paying for dinner for a girl they like is slavery and such a burden.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 03:24 PM
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Men don’t have to. You don’t have to do anything you don’t want to do
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 03:21 PM
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What do you want to get out of it? Do you not enjoy going on a date with a girl you like?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 03:17 PM
1

It’s more likely that my bodily autonomy rights will be taken away than you will be drafted. While I disagree with the draft, these are not comparable issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 03:05 PM
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You don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about. Alexandra Kollontai was a commissar in the USSR before women in the US could even vote.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 03:02 PM
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We as in women in general. I think beyond my nose
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:47 AM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:46 AM
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Many don’t and I advocate for those. Plus mine can go anytime, especially under this new administration. One never knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:24 AM
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Yes! Thankfully it’s protected where I live. Many are not so lucky though
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:20 AM
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Yes!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:18 AM
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Because men have subjugated women for centuries
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:13 AM
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Have you been drafted?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:12 AM
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Abortion isn’t baby murder
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 08:12 AM
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No they don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 02:48 AM
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Who said you deserve to die and rot alone?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 02:45 AM
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Saying women have our own agency and aren’t resources that you’re entitled to isn’t saying you deserve to die and rot alone. Yall are quick to be victims
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/24 02:40 AM
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I’m sure the fact that they are ran by tyrannical oligarchs prone to starting pointless wars with their neighbors has nothing to do with it. I’m glad you agree now that a country’s prosperity and success goes beyond what economic system they have. That’s growth We’ve had hurricanes in Florida And they’re getting worse and more frequent 50 years ago Global cooling wasn’t as accepted or widespread as a theory, not at all. Plus, we have had 50 more years of data. Science adapts to new data, and cli…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 11:10 PM
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The people getting back to back hurricanes seem to notice. Wildfires, floods, etc. the developed world isn’t immune. And if the AMOC goes to shit, it’s over for us up here. The richest will not suffer as much clearly, but the brunt of the consequences will fall on the Global South, and guess where those people will go? As always, richer countries fucking over the Global South and their own poorer populations. The exit visas were caused by Cold War geopolitics. Both sides engaged in restrictions,…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:48 PM
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We are NOT. We are suffering from the consequences of that NOW! Climate change is on us. superior military force conquering the inferior Clown argument to justify massive suffering. Then 9/11 happens and yall bitch and moan “never again” goofy and corny What do you want the USSR to produce? They became a global superpower starting from nothing and with everything stacked against them.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:29 PM
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The same bullshit you keep ignoring because it pokes holes in your simplistic arguments. Cope. It’s not all about technology though. Again, reductive and simplistic. You keep ignoring the historical and global context of capitalist/US dominance. You act as if colonialism has NOTHING to do with it, and post war dominance bc the US was unscathed compared to the rest of countries that were devastated by the war. Positioning itself as a leader and police, judge, jury, and executioner of the world. U…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 10:07 PM
1

Those things you mention that make countries the best places to live are achieved through state intervention, public investment, and social safety nets, not private enterprise. Labor unions have also played critical roles in ensuring decent living standards for workers (and these are always opposed by companies). The existence of strong institutions isn’t inherent to capitalism. Its important that institutions are accountable to the people rather than to profit. An inept shithole doesn’t go from…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 09:16 PM
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The best places to live are the ones that exploit the most resources. They built that wealth from colonial exploitation, resource extraction, and the oppression of workers both domestically and globally. Still, the “happiest” countries have socialist-inspired policies such ad universal healthcare, free education, progressive taxation, and strong labor protections. Haiti is a capitalist country and nobody wants to live there. Most of the world is capitalist and it’s very few where everyone wants …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:50 PM
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Capitalist development has depended on exploitation (colonialism, slavery, extraction of resources from the Global South). Enriching a few at the expense of many. Millions have become vulnerable/victims of economic crises (boom/bust cycle), poor labor conditions and environmental destruction. The improvements we attribute to capitalism are because of interventions to curb the excesses of unbridled capitalism. We can thank labor unions for worker’s rights, minimum wages, safety nets, etc. these t…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:30 PM
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We can’t even get bodily autonomy rights. What desires and whims?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:08 PM
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What are you even talking about? Yes, you people don’t see us as humans and voted that way so we don’t like you. It just brought to the surface how much you see us as things to put your dick in and that’s it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:06 PM
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The rise of private property also led to women being increasingly seen as property in the form of wives. A commodification and alienation not seen in feudal societies because in these, women’s labor was tied to familial and communal obligations. They were still subjugated but it’s not the same. In capitalism, reproductive labor has been systematically devalued even if it is what holds up the system. This devaluation is PRECISELY what makes womens biological roles an angle of subjugation. By maki…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 08:04 PM
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Very good response. These men just don’t see women as humans, they never did. Women are a resource in their eyes.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 07:49 PM
0

Nobody really cares about abs. It’s shoulders and wallet where its at ✅
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/24 06:17 AM
1

Again, that plea deal nonsense is completely unrelated. I don’t know what cognitive processes are making you include that here. What’s completely legal for one gender? Deadbeat moms get punished by the law just the same. If they’re court ordered to pay child support and they don’t, they get locked up too… It’s not sexist to believe paper abortions are a dumb as fuck “point of equality” it isn’t. Child support isn’t parenting nor is it the same as carrying a whole ass pregnancy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 11:58 PM
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Your plea deal example makes no sense logically. It has nothing to do with my point. It’s about how much walking from a family is widespread in society and consequences are barely there. There are MORE deadbeat dads chilling vs deadbeat dads locked up. Bitter men like you talk about this issue like they’re systematically persecuted lol if that was the case there wouldn’t be so much baby daddy drama about him not paying. It’s a whole trope at this point. An abortion for a woman stops the child fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:06 PM

Abortion isn’t just about not being a parent, it’s about ending a pregnancy, which is a unique physical burden on women. Men aren’t physically affected that way. “His wallet, his time” ignores the biological realities women face during pregnancy. It’s NOT the same as a child support payment and it will never be. I’m not opposed to paper abortions with limitations, what I’m opposed to is the idea that it’s a symmetrical thing, it isn’t. Abortions prevents a child from EXISTING. No one is left wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 10:00 PM

I’m not saying paper abortions would impact women’s abortion rights. What I’m addressing is your argument that paper abortions are the equivalent for men, as you say, to choose to be a parent. Abortion rights for women are based on the biological reality that women bear the physical and emotional burden of pregnancy. It’s a matter of bodily autonomy bc its a burden that falls solely on women. Paper abortions r about shifting financial and legal responsibility post birth. It’s just not the same. …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:33 PM

You’re comparing biological differences that don’t directly impact rights (like abortion) with differences used to justify discrimination. Abortion isn’t to limit mens rights, its about choosing what to do with ones body. It’s a false equivalency you’re presenting. The historical denial of opportunities to women weren’t about biological necessities, they were about enforcing inequality. Abortion is based on a biological reality nobody can change = women bear the blunt of the burden. Women get pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 07:05 PM

Men don’t be fighting for custody. This is such a bullshit hill to die on because they don’t even try!!! If 4 days a month isn’t enough then ask for more! Most custody issues are solve peacefully and in mutual agreement. This isn’t a courts issue, stop with the victim mentality. It’s a cultural issue. Men should step it up, but focus too much on punching down. Aren’t most black children from single mom households? Are most black men locked up for not being a parent? they’re not. More often than …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 06:32 PM

If a man asks for primary custody, he’ll probably get it. Most men don’t even ask for it and agree that “the child is better with the mother” and are okay with every other week visitations. In the cases where they do ask for primary custody, they get it. Men can just walk. If they go to prison its for not paying a court ordered child support and then having the mom report them for it. Most of the time this doesn’t happen so men just chill not parenting their child. Let go of your fantasies, this…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:20 PM

If he got the baby and drops it off in one of those things, it’s the same. It just so happens that it’s usually women that end up being single moms and have to deal with the responsibility of what to do with the baby. Men can just walk, theyre not usually left with the baby to figure it out
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:11 PM

Whats a similar situation where men could say “you don’t have a penis so you shouldn’t have a say”?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 05:05 PM

Men can also drop off a baby in one of those
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/24 04:44 PM
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Yess there’s always key words they say that raise alarms. Calling women females
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:12 AM
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If he’s being misogynistic, nobody will want to hear him out.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/12/24 03:11 AM
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Other parts of this thread. They call him out a couple of times. It was on r/dating
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 10:14 PM
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I don’t disagree with that. Atp if you’re 6’0 you have to say you’re 6’3 bc of all the 5’9 saying they’re 6’0
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:26 PM
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People aren’t calling 6’0 tall guys short. It’s not a common opinion. It’s not a good way to illustrate that point, there’s other ways you could, but this isn’t really a problem or a phenomenon.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:19 PM

Your comment is the argument for why age gap relationships are problematic. Yes, people under 25 don’t know very well what they want, they make poor decisions compared to a 28 year old so they’re less likely to demand important things such as financial stability and commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:15 PM

Someone shared screenshots elsewhere. He was being rude and picking a fight lol
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 09:03 PM

Do you consider yourself short because once in person and once online you were called short when you’re dead tall-ish?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:54 PM

No way you get called short at 6’0
/r/PurplePillDebate17/12/24 08:50 PM
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If men had a natural inclination towards protecting women there wouldn’t be protection needed cuz you wouldn’t be assaulting women lol. Yall are dangerous and need to get neutered
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 03:59 PM
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No you guys are dangerous
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/24 03:17 PM

🤡
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 10:41 PM
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Yea men are big bullies but at the same time yall can’t control your sexual urges. Advocate for making mass rape legal if that’s the moral path you wanna go to, but if we don’t give you pussy you go craaaaazy pulling out your hairs and are big mad it’s not the same for women
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:53 PM
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I agree. I don’t think prostitution should be illegal as of now, but it’s one of those ethically iffy things and it’s not good to discuss that as if buying intimacy is the same as buying food. It’s like we forget we’re talking about human beings. Paying doesn’t give you intimacy. Just the illusion of it at the expense of the alienation of the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:51 PM
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You can commodify anything for sure. Intimacy is fundamentally different from goods or services bc intimacy is a very personal, emotional thing. You can only buy the illusion of intimacy, a fantasy. The commodification of safety and healthcare address human needs without compromising autonomy or dignity. Commodifying intimacy reduces its intangible value and meaning. Also, its usually in contexts of power imbalances and exploitation, unlike healthcare or security. Security and healthcare can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:49 PM
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Yea men got the monopoly on violence and like to subjugate women. It is what it is, yall are rabid and go apeshit over not getting pussy and start voting to take womens rights away
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:34 PM
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Nobody. Women had to fight and advocate for themselves for a semblance of recognition of their humanity.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:30 PM
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Love that for you 🥵
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/24 05:26 PM
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