TyroneTheSavage Archive

Upvotes	Title	Category	Author	Subreddit	Date (UTC)
92	Mature Game - How I cut the crap.		TyroneTheSavage	/r/seduction	23/05/18 06:39 AM
2	Female Behaviour - Whats the trend?		TyroneTheSavage	/r/seduction	30/05/18 06:42 AM

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6	Date Asked if She Could Bring a Friend So, if you clearly mad your intentions. Say no to group date unless it's to your advantage. I approached two girls last night. One taken and one newly single. The taken girl was more talkitive so I turned her into my wingman. She said that her friend is not ready for one on one dating, but she would invite me out and we could group hang. They both are 8's and I made it clear my intentions......so it might be to my advantage. I number closed with the single girl and we shall see how it goes. That…	/r/seduction	30/06/18 05:08 PM
1	7 Mistakes Guys Make in Bed (And How to Fix Them) Oh, You must be a lot younger than me if that's the first Tyrone that comes to mind. Lol. It has nothing to do with that skit fyi	/r/seduction	30/06/18 05:01 PM
1	7 Mistakes Guys Make in Bed (And How to Fix Them) Are you trolling....really can't tell	/r/seduction	29/06/18 08:23 PM
2	7 Mistakes Guys Make in Bed (And How to Fix Them) Lube....use lube	/r/seduction	29/06/18 08:12 PM
1	Why has seduction evolved to be as complicated and confusing as it is today? You started the debate lol. But, ok have a good one.	/r/seduction	29/06/18 04:00 PM
2	How do you consistently have multiple sexual relationships at the same time? Its all about networking. Your long-term girls can start to align with the girls you pull on the weekend or on the street. Basically try not to burn bridges and stay sexy. This has gone down a few times for me. At one point a few years back I was dealing with 4 girls. I had a red head GF that was cheating on her BF with me. I had a Black girl who i met in college that dissed me back then, came around and we just started fucking. I had a Pacific Island girl who i think I met on Facebook and a Lat…	/r/seduction	29/06/18 07:00 AM
1	Day Two - Weekend with hot girl. The beginning details are in Day One (its a while back by now) We met almost 10 years ago.....re found each other recently. So, im a stranger but we have history. She invited me to stay with her over the weekend in her city, 5 hours away from me. She had the full housewife ensemble. Tank top and sweats. Stay up for part 3	/r/seduction	28/06/18 08:34 PM
1	Misleading girl help Its honesty time. Basically, you are reading a lot into her actions and going off anecdotal evidence of what she feels. You are also weaving in your own insecurities and narrative on top of it all. From what you have stated, your chances seem slim. None of what she is doing is by accident and guys need to wise up and realize that. Women, especially young girls, don't typically make sense to the male brain. They don't logically conclude who they date and who they don't. Many times I have been the…	/r/seduction	28/06/18 08:25 PM
1	How To Get A Woman To Ask You For Your Phone Number One potential pit fall is being contacted because you are valuable to their goals and not because she wants to eventually sleep with you. I have had that happen once or twice, girls tried to play me really close and interested in the work I was doing. Lots of flirting, few dinner dates. When it got down to it, they were only interested in the business part of what i could offer and i had to cut them loose	/r/seduction	28/06/18 04:59 PM
1	Why has seduction evolved to be as complicated and confusing as it is today? You still didn't answer the question. If initiating of dating is so easy, then we should see a rise in relationship stats. Less single people....is a good indicator if people can initiate dating successfully at a high rate. The US has its largest single population in its history. All of what you stated are interconnected, you can't separate them and have a meaningful conversation. Walking up to someone and saying HI.....is not dating. Dating is a FORM of relationship. When you are in the act of …	/r/seduction	28/06/18 04:43 PM
3	Sexually pleasing woman Don't read bullshit books, manuals or videos. This also includes porn to some extent. Why do i say this? Every woman has different reactions to different things and you must be able to go with the flow and adapt on the fly. There is no secret recipe. Keep an open mind and go with what works for her. A shit ton of women can't orgasm from intercourse alone, no matter how hung you are. You SHOULD read about that. Ignore all the SJW bullshit and focus on the raw numbers. https://abcnews.go.com/Healt…	/r/seduction	28/06/18 04:47 AM
1	Why has seduction evolved to be as complicated and confusing as it is today? Dating a woman for a night or for a price is not hard. Quality dating situations are rare. They are intertwined. Are you suggesting that people are having success initiating dating, but we see no examples of quality relationships increasing...which should happen if your claim is true. We see this in Japan actually. Dating is at an all-time low. A large portion of the population is single and find dating hard. So, marriage rates are down, birth rates are down and so forth. But, you can buy a date…	/r/seduction	27/06/18 04:54 AM
2	Approaching Waitresses/People while they are working Maybe, its sometimes easier to do it before you leave. But, that can be such a narrow window. Its best to do it when it crosses your mind to do it. If you are respectful and understanding of her answer, you wont create an awkward environment.	/r/seduction	26/06/18 03:12 AM
2	Why has seduction evolved to be as complicated and confusing as it is today? His example of dating being easy is not proof of dating being easy lol. If the majority or women behaved that way, then of course....but from my casual observation....that is not the case. Dating is a blanket term. You can date for a night or for years. You can date a girl and have a hook-up or a marriage. My point is that depending on what you are looking for dating can be easy, you can buy a date and a screw for a reasonable price. That does not make "dating" inherently easy for people not int…	/r/seduction	26/06/18 03:10 AM
2	Approaching Waitresses/People while they are working I was told by numerous waitresses these key things. Waitresses understand they are in a profession that leads to a lot of male attention. They are fine with it for the most part. Be respectful, speak up and be honest. My waitress told me "Its nothing worse than knowing a guy wants to talk to you, but leaves his number on the receipt or some other bullshit." Since when did social norms make or break attraction? If she is attracted to you, she won't give a shit about social norms. The married wait…	/r/seduction	25/06/18 05:02 AM
0	Why has seduction evolved to be as complicated and confusing as it is today? Our society has lost touch with reality and is in a mode of cultural self destruction?	/r/seduction	25/06/18 04:49 AM
2	Zombie? Vampire? Help. Yep, any guy who can't handle criticism is not mature. So, tell him and see how he reacts. I had a girl once that literally tightly pressed her lips together and just pressed them against mine.....no movement....no nothing. Just imagine two adults who look like their lips were crazy glued to each other. A dog could have given me better action.	/r/seduction	22/06/18 04:33 AM
2	My girlfriend gets asked out multiple times a day at her job, should I be worried ? You don't want a chick that no one else wants. She should handle it, shut it down and that's that.	/r/seduction	21/06/18 04:37 PM
4	To all the"Funny" guys. There is no need to perform or make other people laugh ALL THE TIME. Just have a normal conversation with a joke here or there and you'll be okay. Funny people read a room. If you are annoying, you are not funny.	/r/seduction	18/06/18 10:15 PM
10	How to avoid the friendzone and/or use it to your advancage Just say, I don't do the friend zone thing. Don't wingman women who friend zoned you. Find women who are genuinely your friends, not just failed hookups in which you took second place. Talk to women in general, outside of even trying to date them.	/r/seduction	16/06/18 07:17 PM
5	Why do guys feel "disrespected"? Well, the first part of being understanding of someone else feelings is to be in those shoes...like put yourself there. Now, i don't condone your boyfriend being violent. But, you should shut everything down and he should not have to say anything to you or the guy. Tell the guy, thanks but don't entertain anything else. Aggressively shut him down. I think he's mad that you probably entertained a little bit more than what you are saying.	/r/seduction	13/06/18 09:04 PM
3	My first F*ck Up of 2018 - Hit in the feels Annnd she ended it, said it wasn't going to work out via text. I feel better, that is an answer and better than waiting around about it. I feel like I did fuck up and ruined the attraction, I wanted more communication than she was giving and if I was in my right mind.....I probably would not have cared. I pushed that issue and it shut everything down. But, women put up with so much when they like a guy. That when a chick ices you over something petty.....it just seems so contrived. Lessons learn…	/r/seduction	13/06/18 02:08 AM
1	My first F*ck Up of 2018 - Hit in the feels All true. I guess in my mind it's benefit of the doubt, maybe she really is that busy and I'm overreacting? We also had a 5 hour date that went fine, best date I had in 10 years. So, I'm trying to do a little damage control. Maybe give some space and try the water in a week or so. But, right now I'm tying to push her down a few pegs in my brain so I'm not over thinking it. It's like my attraction went to 10 without my control or permission and it's making me insanely anxious. So I'm trying to de…	/r/seduction	13/06/18 12:09 AM
1	My first F*ck Up of 2018 - Hit in the feels Yeah, I have been of sound mind like that. Not really expecting anything and just going with the flow. That has been going that way for years now. She slipped past all that, which is a little bit why i am mad at myself. Yeah, the pain is fuel at this point.	/r/seduction	12/06/18 10:21 PM
1	My first F*ck Up of 2018 - Hit in the feels I feel you. I'm just mad I let the feelings creep in. Like for years I been kinda numb to women. Like, they have been just meh....sex is just meh.....they look meh. She popped out of nowhere and it's like infatuation that is not deserved. I am cognitively aware of the fact it's bullshit. But, I have to admit, it's roughing me up a little bit.	/r/seduction	12/06/18 08:54 PM
2	My first F*ck Up of 2018 - Hit in the feels Well, yes I initiated to date close fast. After a successful date and hookup I thought the momentum would keep going. So, my mistake is that I should have realized that women are different now. They will fuck you and then not care if you don't call them the next day or hell the next week. I kinda got blindsided by the great sex with a level 9 girl and wanted to keep it going. That shit is like drugs and I forgot you can't see the truth when you get emotions going like that. But, I got a weekend …	/r/seduction	12/06/18 03:56 PM
1	My first F*ck Up of 2018 - Hit in the feels Busy. 90% of women tend to lead with that. It's like a pre-made excuse. But, understand. I give many hours and days to let her respond. So, I'm not like crowding her about it. I'm being more pressing about it now, cause I'm ready to be either on with her or off with her. The middle ground sucks.	/r/seduction	12/06/18 02:37 PM
7	Is it ok for a 33 year old guy to hit on a 21 year old girl? Do it. When your banging out 21 year old pussy you won't care about the mostly female haters who did the exact same thing when they were 21. Every girl I have dated has a story about dating a much older man at some point. I think I'm going to go young today with my pick up attempts	/r/seduction	09/06/18 03:27 PM
3	Do you ever fell like you're not good enough for certain girls? You just need to learn that even high energy beautiful girls have dated a lot of chumps in their past. So, you don't need to be the best man she's ever dated, you just need to be the best man hitting her up at the moment. That's not that hard to do, especially if you are taking the time to learn how to be more attractive to women. Most guys are not. All women have the same insecurities and issues. So don't think that high value women need to be treated any differently	/r/seduction	09/06/18 03:08 PM
3	You can’t have my Number but you can have a Selfie - 100 Women in 50 Days - Day 6 So, from a legal standpoint you don't even need permission. Now, if you start using this as a marketing tactic for a product, you need a model release. So, a lot of photographers like myself make women they shoot sign a release no matter what. If you are putting in the effort, you might just want to make that extra step to cover your ass.	/r/seduction	09/06/18 02:48 PM
1	IG Close - Number Close - First Date Sex in Parking Lot. I don't know why I would lie about it. But, I can't prove anything to you.	/r/seduction	08/06/18 03:08 PM
1	IG Close - Number Close - First Date Sex in Parking Lot. Then what are you calling BS on?	/r/seduction	08/06/18 02:56 PM
2	Wherr to have sex while both living with parents? Yeah, in majort cities if you get caught fucking in a car it gets impounded. I would say go half on a hotel room then ask for late check-out	/r/seduction	08/06/18 05:38 AM
72	This is my first time saying "no" after a girl acted like a bitch to me two weeks earlier and then reached out - old me would have gone for it anyway, I'm proud of my progress Ok, so easy sex then say no. Also? Is she retarded....your "wand" and all she says is "play" to refer to you fucking her....that's weird.	/r/seduction	08/06/18 05:35 AM
1	A guy asked me out , how to decline politely ? I got roasted for posting this exact topic a few days ago Just say, "sorry I am not interested"	/r/seduction	08/06/18 02:55 AM
5	Girl that was praticing Kino on now says I groped her Yeah, so this is happening more and more. Women are using allegations to essentially ruin people. I am all for calling bullshit and fighting it even playing dirty if that what it takes. My instant response would have been. "I only touched your leg because you grabbed my cock #metoo" You have to shut her down and obliterate her to save your reputation. If she wanted to play up casual touching as groping or even rape, well i can make up anything as well.	/r/seduction	07/06/18 04:45 AM
1	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future It was literally 5 minutes and now shes been messaging me everyday and we are meeting next week.....so results are not bad	/r/seduction	07/06/18 04:39 AM
1	Seduction/Pickup villainized the mainstream I mean...it might....but women are just women. Women need more convincing to actually take your number than to sleep with you. I find the approach harder than putting my dick in them.	/r/seduction	07/06/18 04:39 AM
3	Seduction/Pickup villainized the mainstream I think you are almost dialed into whats happening. Just lose the PUA mindset behind it. I am getting similar reactions and always have. My date for tomorrow said "it takes some balls to walk up to me in a crowded coffee shop, i liked that". Two girls at the same coffee shop shared the same remarks, even though they turned down my offer. They thought it was brave. So....lets break this down. PUA is not what the women like. I would even add that PUA is not really anything except a marketing term …	/r/seduction	06/06/18 09:23 PM
1	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future My message to her that if a man does get butt-hurt. You know for sure he was not the guy for you.	/r/seduction	06/06/18 09:08 PM
1	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future Not saying shes trying to cure them in that sense of it. I mean, if a guy is going to be crazy, ghosting him won't reduce the crazy response. So, it might be better to be up front so at least the non-crazy guys know not to waste anymore time and the women won't have to worry about telling the next lie....and the next lie.	/r/seduction	06/06/18 09:05 PM
1	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future But, ghosting does not cure that behavior. I actually had this conversation with two girls who were talking about how this guy she ghosted keeps leaving IG messages and found her on Facebook. My point is that if you tell a guy that you can't hang out this week cause you have ski trip, he might really think you have a ski trip. So he waits and hits you up the next week, you then again say you are too busy. He might wait another week, hit you up again because he believes what you are saying. Why g…	/r/seduction	05/06/18 06:09 PM
1	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future I didn't have to interpret anything. After i made a joke about it, she admitted that she was intentionally being vague with her response because "does not want to hurt men's feelings" We had a discussion about how its ok to not sugar coat when you are not interested in a guy....or at least not interested in dating him. What i think people are failing to realize is that SHE AGREED to the comments i made about being up front, saying what you mean and it being a clearer cleaner way to communicate. …	/r/seduction	05/06/18 06:04 PM
13	Asking a girl out in Front of her Colleagues - 100 Women in 50 Days - Day 3 I also had a thought, the maturity of a woman leans more and more toward substance over vanity as her vanity fades. So, i think older single women are much more interested in a guy that treats them right as opposed to more superficial things.	/r/seduction	05/06/18 04:51 PM
64	Asking a girl out in Front of her Colleagues - 100 Women in 50 Days - Day 3 Older women tend to act more favorably to old school charm. Its a generational thing. Even without gaming, older women (40's) are easier to strike a conversation with, make casual conversation, compliment and so forth.	/r/seduction	05/06/18 04:36 PM
1	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future I had a girl get robbed for her phone number, like literally gun to her face after she buffed a guy. But, i cant say to go about it any other way. Cause, a lot of guys get ghosted and don't know why. I think its fine to let women know, you don't have to play those games. I'll respect her and she will respect me more often if we cut the BS	/r/seduction	05/06/18 04:27 PM
1	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future You keep projecting your own emotional inadequacies on this discussion. If that's how you feel and you need to earn women's respect, that is on you. I don't see how you concluded that from anything i said, but that is your objective....just to shit talk without a drop of knowledge lol	/r/seduction	05/06/18 04:23 PM
1	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future There is nothing to shit talk about, it was an amicable conversation. Stop reaching lol	/r/seduction	05/06/18 04:18 PM
1	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future How many times did you call her without her responding? Maybe she was ending a relationship and didn't want to cut you off completely, nor lead you on too soon? Maybe she was feeling you out? Maybe she was testing you to see what kind of man you really are? OK....so thanks for having some reasonable feedback. So we chatted at a party. She left and i didn't get a chance to close on her. We have mutuals, hit her up of FB and started to chat. I asked her out, she gave me a lame buff line about how …	/r/seduction	05/06/18 02:27 PM
1	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future I like how you dudes keep going into this bag of lingo, trying to typcast the situation just to score some kind of cool points. "Nice guy ego protection", what the fuck does that even mean? I don't think you even know. I don't come to brag, i come to educate. You salty fucks come out to woodwork, acting like you got the shit figured out.....yet i look at your post history.....i don't see knowledge. Stop being a hater and get your own game up	/r/seduction	05/06/18 01:47 PM
2	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future I like how insecure the dudes here are, but they are giving advice about "seduction". Lets look at your clown logic Respecting you does not mean finding you attractive. Anytime you can connect with someone and have a genuine conversation is not a waste of time. I see you on some little boy shit, needing your ego stroked by a female in order to converse. I was not bragging about anything. I am pointing out that you don't have to let bullshit pass, you can call a women on bullshit, not be disrespe…	/r/seduction	05/06/18 01:42 PM
2	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future Stop projecting, just because thats how young boys like you react is not how men react. Grow up, learn some adult game and stop being some angry cuck	/r/seduction	05/06/18 06:48 AM
1	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future What the fuck makes you think I'm not, we are talking a 10 min conversation via chat. Are you mental to think you know how this went down from the scant lines of text I reference? Give it a rest, you sound like an angry teenager	/r/seduction	05/06/18 06:20 AM
0	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future You can't even fathom what I'm doing. You already showed that you are still at base level when it comes to building social circles and capital. You don't understand that you can't fuck every girl you meet, but that does not mean they have to think down on you. I got buffed just the other day, but the chick high fived me for having the balls to approach her and her friend. The more women respect your hustle in your circle, the more value you have. It's not about "teaching her a lesson" you simple…	/r/seduction	05/06/18 06:18 AM
2	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future So...instead of learning a lesson, you try to be a tool? You fuckers can get insufferable with your bullshit. Yes, the weak fuckers that she felt she had to let down like a mother pampering a child. I told her that was unnecessary and that if a guy can't handle a simple buff rejection, he's probably a weak ass for sure. She agreed that most of the men she runs into can summon the balls to even approach and ask her on a proper date. Are we 12 here? So, you don't even know about vitalizing your so…	/r/seduction	05/06/18 06:10 AM
2	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future Once again, what the fuck are you talking about? Are you trying to be doctor Phil on reddit? No one had a fit, you clown. I gave her advice for how to save a headache in the future, which she appreciated. She admitted she was being unclear because she was afraid to hurt feelings. My response was that you can't hurt a mans feelings by simply saying, you are not interested. For fuck sake, stop reading into how you would have over-reacted because a girl buffed you, i'm not you and im not that guy l…	/r/seduction	05/06/18 04:14 AM
-1	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future Get the fuck out of here. You are not even talking about the topic at hand. Ghosting is not a display of confidence. It can be seen as childish and immature, not being able to handle rejection in a mature way. Which is, no hard feelings toward a chick for buffing you. Secondly, you are commenting on a conversation you don't even have full details, like you were there. Stop acting like you are some PUA yoda , you fucking goofball	/r/seduction	05/06/18 04:04 AM
0	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future Damn you really showed her man. A true Chad Cockington. You sound like nice guy Billy. Is that some BS PUA lingo or something? Lol, if you want to diss me....don't sneak diss me.	/r/seduction	05/06/18 03:54 AM
2	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future > In my experience with women, she probably thought you were being a whiny bitch, bro. Hence your little girl talk at the end What are you even going on about, if a chick buffs you and its a legit buff....why waste your time. Move on. To come back and try to barter with her later is the only bitch move i see.	/r/seduction	05/06/18 03:53 AM
6	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future Her responses - Sorry.....maybe i was unclear about the fact she was totally fine with the way i approached her about it. That is very helpful thank you. I am trying to be more clear. But I never want to hurt people. And then of course ya end up doing it if approach is too passive without addressing it up front. Oh I see, But see I don't know if today's guys get rejected all the time. Bc it seems they avoid rejection! By not asking	/r/seduction	05/06/18 03:51 AM
5	Got Rejected - Told her how to better reject in the future Actually not at all. We had a long conversation about weak men that never work the courage to actually even ask her on a date. We talked about the weak fuckers who can't take rejection. The opposite of your little comments.	/r/seduction	05/06/18 03:47 AM
3	Approaching 2 Girls at the Same Time - 100 Women in 50 Days - Day 2 Well, I think that you have to check both. She should be cognisant of what the guy is trying to do and put a stop to it. I had girls since then do exactly that. I had guys try to front on me by hitting on my girl, she embarraed him. Your chick or potential chick should ride or die like that. By checking her, you let her know that you are not afraid to call her on bullshit. She's fishing to provoke that dominate male response, she will calm dowb once she gets it. It's not from jealousy, it's more…	/r/seduction	05/06/18 02:48 AM
1	Approaching 2 Girls at the Same Time - 100 Women in 50 Days - Day 2 I have an even better example of when I was young to the game and had a guy chat up my date from across the bar. She kept it going though and like encouraged him to keep talking through most of our date. I was confused, because I wondered why she would keep it going. I didn't realize it was a shit test or her just being an asshole. I didn't think to shut him down cause I didn't want to seem over protective and a dick. So, now my strategy is to buff her and the guy. Let him know we are trying to …	/r/seduction	04/06/18 07:09 PM
21	Approaching 2 Girls at the Same Time - 100 Women in 50 Days - Day 2 For shooting your shot in crowds / groups. Beware of haters as well. I had a dude see me chatting up a girl in a class i was taking, we were all talking to each other but i was clearly working her. He blatantly blurts out "Aren't you married or something?". Everyone roasted the hell out of him for being a cock block, but it still happened.	/r/seduction	04/06/18 05:13 PM
1	PSA: Don't listen to this guy or people like this guy What do you mean how do I quantify it? You and him are basing everything on looks No....i never said that at all. Its just an example of a feature you can't change. You could have low sperm count, whatever your issue is....you can better yourself though being seen as financially secure. Personality traits aren't hereditary, are you insane? Unless we are talking about mental illness, this makes 0 sense. Simply wrong https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-find-genetic-links-between-personality-tr…	/r/seduction	03/06/18 08:07 AM
1	PSA: Don't listen to this guy or people like this guy But you're wrong about natural selection. Go outside and look at everyone. The majority of people have undesirable genes. How do you quantify that statement, its not like you can look at someone and determine everything about their genes in a glance lol Looks mean fuck all with girls if you aren't confident. The guy in the video talks about looks like they seal the deal. They help a whole hell of a lot, deny it if you want to. But, i never met a girl that denied looks are important. I have 9/10 …	/r/seduction	03/06/18 05:08 AM
1	PSA: Don't listen to this guy or people like this guy http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/human-natural-selection-1.4421592 Still a thing buddy. Secondly if you can't depend on your looks, you need something else....it can be comedy, but money always works. You sound angry about it lol, did he strike a cord?	/r/seduction	03/06/18 04:53 AM
1	PSA: Don't listen to this guy or people like this guy Nah, he's being harsh but rather truthful. The genetics of a situation do stack odds against you......but its not as hopeless as you see in nature. He's impacting change and telling truth. You might not be a good looking dude, but women need more than that.	/r/seduction	02/06/18 04:51 PM
1	i'm scared of women and it seems so stupid You will still have options my man. I was out at a party and it ended up being me and mostly girls, so they started talking about girl stuff. The one girl is insanely happy dating a guy 20 years older than her and she's 30. He's not that good looking but treats her well. She was a solid 7. Just have confidence	/r/seduction	02/06/18 01:47 PM
1	Do you have an "imaginary audience" that is always following you around and judging you? This feeling that we are always being watched can become a great source of social anxiety and insecurity. Narcissist are linked to anxiety in various ways. Just because someone has narcissistic traits, does not mean they don't have anxiety. In order to feel you are important enough for an audience, you have to believe you are worth watching. Narcissist feed off approval. When they don't get it, they get anxious and angry. A lot of guys feel that way after getting rejected. They want that aproval from women, feel angry when they don't get it. Because they ultimately feel entitled to it. "Yet there is…	/r/seduction	01/06/18 04:56 PM
1	i'm scared of women and it seems so stupid Well, he has been dating a solid 7 for the past few years now. He is a different dude, getting tail changed his swag for sure. My point is that his value was high, but offset by social skills. If you work on social skills, even when you have a shit job and are broke all the time, you will still have success with women.	/r/seduction	01/06/18 03:03 PM
2	Compliments are very viable So, if it's like a super cold open like, stopping a girl walking by you on the street. I'll say "Excuse me, I just have to be honest. You are absolutely stunning and I would like to take you out sometime. Let's exchange numbers." You almost always get hesitation. I'll add "No strings attached, I just want to get to know you and see what happens from there". That has been working well lately, it shows that you are being fluid and open. A lot of women feel pressure to like entertain getting fucked…	/r/seduction	01/06/18 03:00 PM
1	i'm scared of women and it seems so stupid But, I guess my point is that if you feel low value, unless you have con-man level manipulation skills, you are going to come off that way. I admit, I pull girls above my pay grade. But, it's a kudos moment for me. Banging a doctor when you dropped out of college is awesome. But, I would never call myself low value. I know a few guys who were socially fucked up, one was a virgin till 26. Women could smell virgin on him from a mile away. He was a rather decent guy, he just had no game with girls …	/r/seduction	01/06/18 07:58 AM
1	Instagram as SOCIAL PROOF? I'm just saying it's a method and a tool. But, your social value is not directly attached to it. The main benefit of IG is that a woman can see more of you before your first date. Understanding a bit more about you.	/r/seduction	01/06/18 04:50 AM
6	Compliments are very viable Yeah, I lead with a sincere compliment that leads to more than just her looks. I think the compliments women mostly get are via text or social. The shitty "wow your beautiful" line. What they don't get is a man come up to them, shake their hand and look them dead in the eye and mean it while still holding their hand. It always gets a smile and a blush. It instantly let's them know, you hunt pussy and settle for nothing less. The rest of the conversation is butter, no need to cop out or try to be…	/r/seduction	01/06/18 03:08 AM
2	Instagram as SOCIAL PROOF? She knows that by how you approach her. She called me "smooth" for example. She's acknowledging my abilities to persuade not just her, but other women as well. Anyone who recognizes value, realizes desirability. Women fully understand the value of a decent man in their life and know other women do too	/r/seduction	01/06/18 01:18 AM
1	i'm scared of women and it seems so stupid The more I approach the less sure I am of myself of girls liking me in general Well, in general most women are not attracted to any one man. Imagine how many dicks get offered to a girl vs how many she actually accepts. Unless shes being a Thot, the ratio is astounding. The average sexual partner count for most women is still between 6 and 8 if shes in her mid 30's. Can you imagine how many guys have tried to date a decently attractive women from high school to 35 years old? I'll occasionally se…	/r/seduction	31/05/18 11:08 PM
14	Do you have an "imaginary audience" that is always following you around and judging you? This feeling that we are always being watched can become a great source of social anxiety and insecurity. Hummm, I think that is how it can feel when you are out of your element. But, it's based in narcissistic tendencies. This goes away when you realize, no one really gives a shit about you lol. When I get socially anxious, I remind myself that I'll never see these people again, I don't give a shit about them and they don't give a shit about me. Boom, you are free of that feeling	/r/seduction	31/05/18 10:36 PM
1	Instagram as SOCIAL PROOF? Update - She actually messaged me and liked photos while sitting across from me.....in the bag homies	/r/seduction	31/05/18 07:44 PM
2	Instagram as SOCIAL PROOF? Literally Just did a good approach that ended in an instagram connect. I approached cold at coffee shop after half way making eye contact attempts, she was a little shy. She hesitated and said "i don't know" to the number close. I retreated and flanked with "I understand, phone numbers are a little too personal for some people, how about we connect on Instagram so you can internet stalk me." She agreed. Lessons Learned IG can be a place for people to know more about you in a less personal way, b…	/r/seduction	31/05/18 07:25 PM
1	"Oh My name, you are so innocent" Well, I think you are taking what they are saying too literal. It sounds like the women around you keep seeing you as attrsctive, but feel some kinda way about it cause your young. Like your a guilty pleasure. Leo DiCaprio is a good example of a baby face that slayed the chicks	/r/seduction	31/05/18 02:37 PM
1	Instagram as SOCIAL PROOF? Why is that an asset to your cause? Would it not be better that her curiosity gets channeled into a date or conversation?	/r/seduction	31/05/18 02:34 PM
1	Should i tell her i changed my mind? Drinking so much that you do something you wouldn't ever want to do sober? Its just drinking and its just sex. Ugly chicks can be great in bed. Her face does not determine much about the sex involved. If you can jerk off in a room by yourself, you are not above laying a ugly chick from time to time.	/r/seduction	31/05/18 12:08 AM
1	"Oh My name, you are so innocent" Are you in mixed company or are you a black guy in mostly black company? So, when women comment on something it means they are noticing it....thus noticing you. You are mentally taking yourself out the Game. She called you hot, shes comparing you to Jaleel White who is not an ugly black man by most standards. I mean, many sought after men have baby faces. Shy is a problem, but not much else. You should just focus on the fact that you are seen as attractive, you just need to use it to your advant…	/r/seduction	30/05/18 10:34 PM
1	Should i tell her i changed my mind? Why not, that is part of the fun of life. Secondly, this violates my rule of social currency. Basically, ugly or not....the more women in your circle or even extended community that can speak positively of you....the better. I once had a girl who we went on one date that didn't end great. She was later responsible for two girls i dated and hooked up with. I wasn't a dick, so she openly gave permission for me to talk to other girls on our bad date so we didn't waste our night out. I spent the las…	/r/seduction	30/05/18 10:19 PM
15	Instagram as SOCIAL PROOF? Social proof is not a thing i would worry about and IG does not "proof" anything. I noticed that people who don't have accounts come across grumpy and say stuff like "i don't do the social media thing", it makes you seem like an old fogey. But, its not attracting women who are not already attracted. If you have no issue getting numbers, focus on being more interesting....not your IG. Now, if you want to use IG to gain women from the app....by all means. I use IG as an easy way to connect with wo…	/r/seduction	30/05/18 09:57 PM
2	Female Behaviour - Whats the trend? Obviously you screen people. I'm saying that I'm checking the filter and seeing more dirt than usual. More crap than gems	/r/seduction	30/05/18 03:44 PM
2	Have times changed or is it just me? Grad 2001 - I just posted about female communication issues. But, not even about dating. Just like general people skills. I am finding out that from a conversation perspective, only older women tend to even interest me in that way. Like i went to huge outdoor party and cold approached 15 to 20 girls. A few groups even. The only way i seemed to navigate this and keeping it interesting was by trying to gain IG followers in the process. If i got shot down, i would tell them they have to follow me o…	/r/seduction	30/05/18 06:58 AM
1	Acceptable places to approach women besides bars? Not in a cold approach fashion. Maybe in the ”im here as her friend" angle	/r/seduction	29/05/18 11:58 PM
4	Acceptable places to approach women besides bars? Atlanta has one of the largest cosplay events in the country. I would for sure hit that up to interact with young hot chicks. Usually these events have elements if gaming and club nights associated. Nothing like going to a club night with a group of girls you know you have common interest. Also, most of the dudes there are anti and awkward. You would be a big fish in a small pond if you were working the scene	/r/seduction	29/05/18 04:48 PM
1	Acceptable places to approach women besides bars? You have to have social flow. It has to make sense in your head first. So get out of the mindset that a woman who likes you would be too busy or upset to talk to you just because she is working. I literally had this conversation with a married waitress I met while eating. I asked her how she felt about guys asking her out. She said as long as it was direct and not offensive, shes flattered. She talked mad shit about guys who leave numbers on the receipt or how creepy it is when she knows a guy l…	/r/seduction	29/05/18 04:43 PM
1	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. Monogamy is something we certainly observe throughout the animal world, including with animals. So, whats the point in you arguing this? I'm referring to is as a biological fact. So all this talk about how things have been since the beginning, etc., is not yet proven. Plus, it depends on how you define the terminology. Men also like the security in a relationship. Knowing that someone is loyal, etc. What? Like you conflate two different issues. Data today tells you what women prefer and look for…	/r/seduction	28/05/18 03:44 PM
1	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. This assumption relies on "evolutionary psychology" which has about as much legitimacy as anthropology. What? You make no sense here. Monogamy is a evolutionary trait that is indisputable and not in the least bit categorized as evolutionary psychology. It's one of the key differences between us and the other apes. Pair-bonding and monogamy are much older than 100 years.....do you read what you are typing? This is a variation on the AWALT argument. Its not a variation of anything. Its the fact th…	/r/seduction	28/05/18 06:02 AM
1	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. I should probably reword it	/r/seduction	27/05/18 07:49 PM
1	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. Well, i didn't specifically mean that in regard to the amount of numbers you pull. I mean the amount of numbers you pull relating to anything meaningful afterward. You can find yourself in situations to pull a shit ton of numbers, but it can still be a wash down the road.	/r/seduction	27/05/18 07:46 PM
1	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. A lot of it is not conscious. But how we deal with it, can definitely be under our control. Which is my point. Whatever else you are going into proves my point. Its more work and not worth your time. Just send her packing and get back to whatever you were doing before. Its even easier than clicking the links you posted lol. Not what I said. I was talking about how new information can affect attraction levels, so for this example to work, it would be a guy seeing a supermodel and finding out some…	/r/seduction	27/05/18 07:42 PM
1	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. Ah, but this is not something that applies to everyone, at all. For many people, simply knowing that the other person is not attracted, can easily deflate one's attraction. It does not need to apply to everyone at all points in time to be generally good advice. Attraction is not a conscious choice for the most part, you might not be able to act on it, but that does not mean it dissapears. If what you were saying is correct, no man would find any popular supermodel attractive, for most men...meet…	/r/seduction	25/05/18 10:56 PM
1	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. Just literally what the name implies. These are women who enjoy your company, want to sleep with you and possibly in contention to be wife material. But, they don't need to be wife material. My example is having a stripper GF. Shes all the fun you want, never wife her.....but good GF. You just need to keep them in perspective and don't think GF magically turns into wife.	/r/seduction	24/05/18 08:38 PM
1	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. Think of a more casual usage of GF than you are thinking of. Not like this sappy, we have to carve hearts into trees and shit. I just had girls who wanted to spend a lot of time with me. The considered themselves girlfriends. Don't think of it as a title you bestow on a woman, think of it as a combination of her actions and your desire.	/r/seduction	24/05/18 07:35 PM
1	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. He is an interesting mix of some strong dedication to do his thing. Its a mix of money, personality and showbiz. You can learn from him a little bit. He makes you realize that most of the dudes with a lot of cash are lame as shit. Like they got millions but can't turn out a party or connect with live shit.	/r/seduction	24/05/18 07:21 PM
1	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. That is a tough one. A lot of YouTube in general is shit. Its Just a bunch of pseudo experts on all range of topics. But, i found this lady here below that perfectly sums up how I approach all of the time. Women are amazingly consistent on the topic of how to approach them and open a conversation. Like, I use my conversations with women as Intel on how to deal with other women and 99% of the time they tell me whats in the videos below. So, judge all other advice against what she is saying. https…	/r/seduction	24/05/18 07:06 PM
2	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. Well, spamming implies you have no direction. You are carpet bombing your set basically. But, we are talking about being involved with the women you WANT to be involved with. Like, going to the store and picking out a new pair of shoes. You want THAT pair of shoes. If someone dumps a truck load of Crocs at your door and you wanted fresh Jordans......you still losing. So, that is not what i'm saying. I don't know what you mean by self reflection? I feel you should brush off rejection like lint an…	/r/seduction	24/05/18 06:52 PM
1	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. GF are not always good Wife material. She might be fucking you like crazy and you do all kinda wild shit with her. But, would you have a baby with her? Like, does she even think half as much about how to raise good kids as she thinks about all the other bullshit in her life? A good wife does not become that way just because you put a ring on the finger. They study, they understand the process, they are invested in that decision to be a wife. The same way you would study to pass a test. I tell ch…	/r/seduction	24/05/18 06:45 PM
1	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. PUA is Short for Pick-Up Artist. Maybe that is an old-school term now? I didn't leave her with the check because I was not mad at her. It made me reflect and i realized i gotta pick my game up.	/r/seduction	24/05/18 06:38 PM
2	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. Short for Pick-Up Artist	/r/seduction	24/05/18 06:33 PM
1	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. I submit to you, that this is needlessly limiting. A lot of good people worth being friends with, just happen to be women and some of those are going to be women we find attractive, who don't want to date us. It won't be the end of the world if we never become friends with them, but it would be a shame to deprive ourselves of the value of such friends. It's not really about them, its more about you. I think that once you are physically attracted to a women and you made it up in your mind to desi…	/r/seduction	24/05/18 06:32 PM
1	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. I won't down anything if you feel it gave you value for the money.	/r/seduction	24/05/18 05:02 PM
1	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. I like this. I really do. Many of these points are pure gold. I agree with all points except point #1. Yes, limitations exist with this method. I would not go to a self taught brain surgeon for example. But, I think for this type of material, 98% could probably be learned without spending money directly on training. That will free up more money for you to go out and get experience. Also, free books at the Library....so you are not limited to blogs and you tube videos	/r/seduction	24/05/18 05:00 PM
2	Mature Game - How I cut the crap. Oh....wow. Guys i didn't expect anyone to read this and its been a day. Sorry for not following up on questions! I'll hop to it.	/r/seduction	24/05/18 04:52 PM
2	[FR] Photoshoot turned date per mutual sexual tension; then I botched it Alright..... So....you are classically overthinking and caring too much about what "could and should" instead of what IS. You gave up to easy because you let you anxiety and embarrassment cloud your judgment. Be persistent until you understand clearly her position. I have had women barely talk to me for months, then call me over to sleep with them out of the blue. Options are open until they are closed. Don't ever listen to models opinions about photographers, its mostly horse shit. Models are d…	/r/seduction	23/05/18 06:55 AM
2	The ONLY "instant fix" for attracting Women is your style... Here's how to dress to kill for dirt cheap Simple - Stay relatively current but dress in a manner that is impervious to trends. Notice how (especially for black men) the buzz cut or low fade existed from the 1940's to now. But, Afros, Jheri curls and perms have come and gone. Dreads may live in the same space, but i don't know if they will pass this current fascination with them. Clothing is the same way, jeans are a given. Notice how Levi jeans are still around, but the shit people were paying $200 bucks for in the early 2000's are at t…	/r/seduction	23/05/18 05:39 AM