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All I am saying is this. There is no massive injustice where women who are deemed unworthy of attraction by TRP are magically given attention by guys TRP deems out of their league. That is emotional anger because things are not "fair." TRP is meant to look at life as it is and adjust to it, so I find the fact they're just sitting around crying about this shit to be strange. Pragmatically, if you are trying to look at the dating scene as a marketplace, you need to accept that value is assigned by…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:01 PM
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If a guy says he is a 5 as part of complaining about how he can't get laid, they typically mean they are rating their own looks and not their SMV. I'm saying that guy is probably misjudging his value.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 09:51 PM
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I don't see why this matters. Coke is still higher value than the mythical African version even if the African version is better simply because Coke has the demand. High quality does not necessarily equal high demand and demand is what determines value.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 09:50 PM
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Exactly, you got it in one. You can stand there saying you should be getting hot girls all you want, but if they're not interested in you the market doesn't care about your self-evaluation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 09:03 PM
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You must be a woman. I am in fact a proud penis owner. With dicks flying from all directions, more than a few of them are going to be above your SMV. If that guy is willing to fuck that girl, clearly he perceives her SMV as worthy of his. Note that this does not mean they have equal RMV, but when it comes to just sex, obviously her value is within his or he wouldn't be trying to fuck her. As a dude, at a 5, you CAN get chicks who are a 5 Yes, yes you can. And if you can't then you are not a 5 by…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 08:38 PM
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http://psychcentral.com/lib/what-is-a-manic-episode/
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 08:25 PM
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Are you literally 14?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 08:22 PM
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Does that mean Donald and Melania Trump are equal SMV? Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 08:20 PM
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Doesn't matter, if something is high in demand it has value.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 08:15 PM
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Exactly this. Men having low standards for hookups (which I don't dispute) is exactly what gives women high value in the SMP, because they're all in high demand.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 08:14 PM
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Mate are you seriously trying to compare not being able to get laid with a time when black people couldn't get jobs? Even as an analogy that's just... hyperbolic at best. Anyway, that aside, isn't the whole point of TRP to face the world as it is and work with it? And if so, a pragmatic view should be taken. You can't attract women for sex the normal way? Well you can pay instead. That's cold hard pragmatism which is exactly what TRP claims to stand for. All you are doing here is preaching feels…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 08:12 PM
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However, there is an SMV floor for the guys such that women will not venture below. Male 5s fall into this zone. TRP literally just made this up to feel better about striking out. Newsflash: if you can't get laid you are below 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 08:04 PM
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If the reality of the situation is that it works like a capitalist marketplace then what I am saying must be correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 08:03 PM
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I would so fucking use that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 08:02 PM
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I'd have wanted to but been too awkward to actually speak to you knowing my teenage self.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 08:00 PM
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SMV and RMV are closely related but they are by no means the same thing. Yes indeed. They are conflated too often. They're very different markets.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 01:51 PM
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Yep I agree completely. Lack of social skills is the #1 problem for both genders in the dating game. Memes like what OP linked seriously underestimate how important that shit is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 01:36 PM
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But that's the thing about the sexual market. It is driven by sex, literally nothing else. If an overweight girl is getting a lot of dick she is high value in the SMV by definition. That same girl may very well be low value in the RMV for sure, but that's a different measurement altogether.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 01:23 PM
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Speaking with confidence and being interesting is what it all boils down to. Make people want to be around you. I don't lie, myself. I don't tell too many crazy stories, I let my actions speak for me. I don't just talk about being able to do a lot of drugs, I'll chill with my mates at one of their houses and casually take a combo of drugs that'd make the rest of them pass out. And I'll still be fine and talking to them. They know that's how I roll. I don't think bullshitting is a good idea becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 01:20 PM
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I think we can agree that if you are paying for it then it doesn't count towards SMV. But in the "hookup culture" where the SMV is relevant, fact is, if a woman you think is ugly is banging a guy you think is hot, clearly they're on the same level specifically within the SMV. I absolutely agree that the RMV is a whole other matter however. That needs a scale of its own, separate from the SMV, and the judgements that go into what constitutes the best mate in the RMV are much deeper than the SMV. …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 01:10 PM
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Pretty much the same here on all counts. Cult of personality is an amazing thing and a valuable skill.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 01:04 PM
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Eccentricity. Pretty much being crazy. The hypomanic guy who pops pills and talks about complex sounding shit you've not heard about before (even if it's downright nerdy) is more interesting to women than the boring guy who talks about football and work. Simple as that. I do the same with male friends too and let me tell you no one forgets me. Just to give a recent example fresh in my memory, I met up with some mates recently and a new guy (to me) tagged along. I introduced myself by offering a …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 01:01 PM
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If by "mainstream public narrative" you mean tabloid journalism then sure. But I don't think the "where have all the good men gone?" articles reflect the attitude of outer society at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 12:54 PM
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In your example, the man values looks as much as the woman values career prospects. If they have agreed to be together, they are of equal value in their perspectives. Yes even if in this hypothetical relationship the woman brings literally nothing else (which doesn't reflect the majority of real world relationships in current society, but I'll roll with it for discussion) if the man values looks highly enough that he looks past this, he has obviously set her value as equal to his because of this…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 12:53 PM
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This is not about who gets more sex, but levels of attractiveness. It is often stated by RPers that average men can only fuck unattractive women for example. But even if we accept this is true, by the very definition of how a market works, that man and woman are of equal value. There is no disparity.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 12:49 PM
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Point is you probably wouldn't be able to notice if you did see one.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 12:38 PM
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a lonely woman in her mid-30s is a tragedy Nah, everyone makes fun of them by calling them crazy cat ladies or spinsters or whatever. Everyone gets mocked, it just comes in a different form. Men who refuse to do so are also mocked as insecure, with 'fear of commitment'. Only by aforementioned spinsters.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 12:36 PM
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If you look through the linked thread, it seems too many RPers don't get this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 12:34 PM
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Fair play, I can agree that even an assessment based on the girls you've been with in the past is just a guess when it comes to girls you meet in the future. But it is an informed guess. It's by no means 100%, but generally speaking like will attract like. The technical term for this is assortive mating and there's been a lot of research into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 12:26 PM
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Yeah they're just complaining that women can get casual sex easier. Obviously this is true. But the butthurt about the fact they perceive the women to be less attractive than the men they're with is the specific element that's being addressed here. It's pretty obvious that if you are assessing attractiveness by a measure of market value, which is pretty much the basis of TRP, then the market's assessment of value is all that matters, and whether or not an individual believes there to be a dispar…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 12:18 PM
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Well the girls you get are reflective of your market value. A guy with low value won't be pulling very hot girls for example. I think what you're saying is that this still has an element of subjectivity since you're assessing how hot those girls are, and this is true, but it's the closest you'll get to an accurate measurement and really it's all that matters. As long as you are aware of the type of girls you are able to get, the subjectivity of how you perceive those girls is still irrelevant. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 12:11 PM
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It is, but it cannot be judged by self-evaluation. I've always said you should judge your SMV by the girls/guys you can get, not by how hot you think you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 12:06 PM
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Let me put this as simply as I can. If there is a guy you think is a 7, and a girl you think is a 5, and they are hooking up, obviously they perceive each other to be within their mutual range of attractiveness. If this becomes a pattern that is repeated, it suggests those people are within their mutual range of attractiveness on a larger scale. Therefore, whether or not you think that man is too good for that woman does not matter. The marketplace disagrees and that's all that counts. To use th…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 12:05 PM
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Not a direct answer to your question about FA women, but I am a man who has mental illness, drug addiction, interests in geeky hobbies like Linux, sci-fi, and comics, and I will openly talk about all this with girls. I still have absolutely no trouble getting laid. So I mean... if you're a male incel you are way worse than what your picture is claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 12:02 PM
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Again with "it's illegaaaal!" This is a mediocre cop-out. If you need sex as badly as incels always claim, you won't care about the law. If it's a physical and psychological need you must have to be happy, why do you care what the government says? If an addict is in withdrawal does he care about the law when he goes to buy more smack? Of course not. You can go to a place where it's legal if you're seriously that worried about the law. If you're in the US you can go to Nevada so you don't even ha…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 11:43 AM
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I'm just using the example that red pilers were using in the linked thread. They were making the claim that a male 5 has the same sexual opportunities as a female 2. Going by your post you understand how ridiculous this claim is.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 11:37 AM
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It's funny, for me personally I was always the opposite I was insecure about my looks and thought I was unattractive. Probably because I had pretty bad acne in my teen years. As I grew up it went away but I thought of myself as ugly. Then I realised hang on a minute I'm getting all these hot girls. Maybe I'm better than I think lol. But one thing is for sure: self-assessing how attractive you are is not accurate measurement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 11:35 AM
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It's cool I'll add my reply to your automod post instead so it stays.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 11:34 AM
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Well yeah that's my point. The market sets the SMV naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 11:33 AM
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But if those men and those women are hooking up consistently, they are by definition on the same level.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 11:30 AM
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Yep this pretty much sums up how it goes. Idealistic students who don't need to worry about making a living will swerve to the left, but once they get out of school and begin work they suddenly care about keeping the money they earn and quickly turn right.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:53 AM
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Seriously, the whole of American politics is extremely right compared to the rest of the Western world. Anyone who calls America left really needs to look at politics outside the USA and gain a sense of perspective.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:50 AM
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Go to Nevada where it's legal then. The whole "it's illegal" argument is nothing but a weak cop-out. The real reason is that incels want intimacy too, most will literally admit this. Which is fine, but that does mean they are being more picky than you are making out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:36 AM
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You're above average looking bby.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:33 AM
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Yep, I've been on Tumblr for ages, even before the SJWs were there, back when it mostly revolved around fandoms and fanfic. I had like 5k followers and met multiple girls from there IRL. I can confirm 100% there are just as nerdy, awkward, and socially inept as the men on Reddit and 4chan, and they feel the same consequences. Also, why do you think many end up as SJWs in the first place? It's a bitter reaction to loneliness and a comfort in finding a place to belong even if it's online, same as …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 10:26 AM
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So some guys are late bloomers, who cares? Statistically they are very unlikely to remain peravirgins like TRP thinks. Among adults aged 25–44, about 98% of women and 97% of men ever had vaginal intercourse http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr036.pdf
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 08:31 AM
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Monty Python never gets old.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 08:21 AM
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Seriously, I think this place is going mad with that assertion. If you're a 5 who really can't get laid you have some problems. That ain't normal. TRP is literally trying to claim being an incel is the norm. They're so far from reality it's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 06:30 PM
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So your average guy will have as much sex as a female 2 [this is what TRP actually believes]
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 06:28 PM
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You seriously over-estimate incels lol. You really think they're 5's with jobs and good hygiene rather than fat smelly guys who live in their mum's basement browsing /r9k/ all day?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 06:27 PM
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Ah the good old upper decker.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 06:22 PM
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Not to mention it would arouse less suspicion when you bring your gf in there for a sneaky public blowjob. Not that I... urm nvm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 06:21 PM
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Women don't socialise in the bathroom? Community lied to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 06:18 PM
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He's basically saying all men will have sex if they get the opportunity and only women would be picky. Which is absolute horseshit, lol. I've met guys with the same mindset as the girls in the article OP linked.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 05:58 PM
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The only actual argument I've seen against it on here is "who would pay for dat?" But I mean it's a simple process, not even that expensive especially if you do it in bulk. So the answer would be insurance in the US, gov healthcare system everywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 05:49 PM
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Hmm, I dunno really. It's hard to compare experiences like this because there's a lot of variables. I never really went clubbing but when I was living in halls there were parties all the time. I went to those and that's where I got attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 05:08 PM
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They're absolutely doing him a disservice by keeping it a secret, very shitty friends they turned out to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 11:23 AM
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Yeah I see where you're coming from now and I agree with all that.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 11:11 AM
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Ahhh I get you now. I think Boris is the odd one out in your examples, he is nothing like the others, his persona is stereotypical bumbling Brit not in your face at all. But if I got you right you're saying none of them are close to Trump? I'd agree with that, Trump's brash style is very American.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 10:12 AM
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Good for you I guess? I still don't even get what you're mad about but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 10:05 AM
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Man why are you so mad? You're all up here getting angry for literally no reason, like I touched a nerve by mentioning BF and the BNP. Are you a member of either by any chance? I also said absolutely nothing about Nick Griffin or Europeans being more intelligent than anyone, you're projecting all over the place haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 09:58 AM
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So you think Farage is "extreme right-wing" but the BNP and BF aren't? You have a... warped view of politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 09:39 AM
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But the real question is, did they weigh the same as a duck?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 08:35 AM
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sex, women, and the devil. That's gonna be the name of my debut metal album. Also more interesting witch facts for PPD: the reason they ride around on broomsticks in fictional portrayals is because women used to put ergot (the psychedelic fungus LSD is made from) on wood and put it on their... lady bits to absorb the drug. No I didn't make that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 08:31 AM
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It's telling that I came to this thread and the post with the link debunking the story is right at the bottom.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 08:16 AM
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So basically this?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 08:08 AM
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Maybe it got boring when I left. Nah but seriously I imagine different unis have different cultures, but the whole lad thing goes on everywhere and they never had problems getting laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 08:06 AM
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Did you go out to parties etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/16 08:05 AM
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When did you go to uni? I was only there a couple years ago and it was pretty much a giant free for all orgy.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 10:56 PM
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our most extreme right-wing, anti-establishment politicians are Nigel Farage and Boris Johnson Lol no they aren't. Our extreme right wingers are Britain First and the BNP. They're a much closer comparison to Trump than the more mild mannered Farage or bumbling Boris. The difference is, though, that BF and the BNP will never gain mainstream acceptance in the UK while Trump is very clearly doing extremely well in the US. Muricans be cray cray.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 10:53 PM
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Uni is a much easier place to get laid than TRP makes out. I had girls hitting on me and even when I didn't, having a ONS was virtually zero effort. You just had to go out and you'd get laid. Shit ain't difficult, and no I don't look like a model.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 10:51 PM
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Really? At uni? The most popular blokes I saw were the drunk loud "lads." Best way to bang girls at uni in the UK is get drunk, take Mandy, whatever, and go to any random party. None of this requires being smart, charming, or caring in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 10:43 PM
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Hot girls who are crazy date down. Yep this is how I bang hot girls lol. The hot/crazy scale is real. Is cool tho, I'm crazy too.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 10:39 PM
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Streets ahead.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 10:35 PM
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Hey, greek lady, you're back!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/16 10:27 PM
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I have recently learned that 'roastie' is a reference to 'roast beef' which is a reference to ugly labia. TIL. Thanks, internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 09:02 AM
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You can still commit without getting married. Moving in together is in itself a significant form of commitment. The difference with marriage is you pretty much have a gun held to your head forcing you to stay. Apparently that's a... good thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/16 06:27 AM
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Again I'm not arguing that, I'm just saying that not being relevant evolutionarily speaking is far from "you might as well be dead." That's just ridiculous hyperbole.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 10:15 PM
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Because your life can have a purpose outside of evolution?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 10:05 PM
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Saying that they "might as well be dead" is still reductio ad absurdum.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 10:02 PM
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TIL I'm literally dead because I don't want kids. Being a ghost is cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 09:58 PM
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Oh right yeah, that's bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 09:43 PM
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Assume the relationship wizard promised you a unicorn (or a series of unicorns, or a herd of unicorns to ride at the same time), how would your dream dynamic work? Same as what I have with my girlfriend right now. I genuinely would not change a fucking thing. I'm in charge of everything. Not overly aggressive, but dominant within the relationship and she knows to respect me. She likes this a lot. I like a lot too. Everyone's happy. And yes this dynamic is very natural. Nothing is forced. We slot…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 09:39 PM
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In the UK is branded as Lynx and it's just a normal deodorant, lots of people use it both guys and girls. I dunno what associations it has in the US but yeah I use it and so does my girlfriend lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 09:35 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/AbeOik6.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 09:33 PM
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What the fuck are you even asking? 20% what?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 09:32 PM
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No difference between marriage an cohabitation except marriage adds a shitload of unnecessary risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 06:24 PM
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It's more like marriage carries a lot of risk for little to no benefit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 06:02 PM
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Okay but who cares? TRP is about self-interest and "enjoying the decline" which is basically nihilism.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 05:31 PM
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Never stop being you bb.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 05:17 PM
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I think the divorce rate in the UK is only 40%. "Only." Lol. Next up, good news: the unemployment rate is "only" 40%. Many divorces (I would say most) have absolutely nothing to do with sex whatsoever. They're just couples who are bored of each other and have grown apart. Lack of sex and growing apart go hand in hand. If you can have a sex life in your 50s, 60s and even 70s then great, but increasingly you will face physical challenges. That's why this bloke I know makes great money selling Viag…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/16 04:01 PM
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Don't be boring. Do something to make yourself stand out.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 05:04 PM
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Lol nah. There's way more guys willing to have ONS than there are guys looking for LTRs. Maybe the guy will say yeah I'll have a relationship with you after we fuck then that's the last she sees of him. But it's much harder to find a relationship than sex if you're a woman. Come on, I don't need to tell you what guys are like with that shit lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 05:03 PM
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Any guys responding to that would also just be after sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 04:44 PM
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Yeah but the guys in that picture are just after sex. The ad says "no strings attached." As /u/dakru pointed out, casual sex is not a substitute for a relationship and doesn't stop you feeling lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 01:22 PM
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Any actual evidence that males have a higher suicide rate because of loneliness?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 01:21 PM
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A very large number of American heroin addicts are white and middle class. Heroin addiction is heroin addiction, none of it is "controlled."
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 08:03 PM
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Most people have sex with those who are the same level of attractiveness as them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 07:59 PM
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Makes sense. At least TRP is focused on telling the guys it's their fault and they need to improve tho. I can always respect anyone with that mindset.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 11:53 AM
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If you're just fun to be around, and you're good at getting people to feel uninhibited around you, you can pretty much ignore all their nonsense about the SMV. Yeah that's what I'm like anyway, but the way TRP talks you'd think that's impossible. Note that I've never been to the US so it's pretty hard for me to judge what the social scene is like over there. I can only go by the media and what people say online. Although, if Love Actually is anything to go by, I'd slay dat American pussy because…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/16 11:30 AM
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The reason seeing a prostitute is sometimes stigmatised is because it makes the guy look like he has no game and can't get sex the normal way. You'll notice that no one levies such attacks against the many rich celebrities who see prostitutes, because they clearly don't apply. But those guys see prozzies anyway because as the old saying goes "you don't pay prostitutes for sex, you pay them to leave afterwards." The answer to your question, then, depends entirely on the man in question. Is he an …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 09:41 PM
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I'm not claiming men look favourably at sluts either. I do think TRP exaggerates the positive female reaction to males with high partner counts though. I think low partner counts are the ideal for both genders in most cases. Obviously there are always outliners but I think that's a good general rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:55 PM
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Oh yeah they don't stop being attracted to me, I'm just saying they don't react like "wow you've been with so many girls" they just get jealous.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:46 PM
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It certainly has some influence. Blue being the "boy's colour" is entirely cultural for example. But there is actual science that backs up men and women's brains being different.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:42 PM
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Are those men gay? I mean seriously unless you genuinely are ugly, you sound like you're living in a parallel universe to me going by this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:25 PM
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Of course. If I was a woman I may very well even be a feminist because the modern feminist movement is about securing privileges for women and I can totally see why a woman would love that idea. Self-interest drives most individuals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:23 PM
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Men don't care if your hair is curly or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:20 PM
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Without any further context it is impossible for me to comment on that in any meaningful way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:13 PM
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Yeah I can confirm no one gives a shit about any kind of hierarchy in the UK SMP. Do you find each other hot? Cool, you're in. If TRP's version of the US SMP is accurate then I am very glad I am in the UK. You lot have to worry about way too much bullshit just to get laid. No wonder MGTOW started in the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:11 PM
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Broadly speaking, men tend to find similar traits attractive while women are more picky. So this seems unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:08 PM
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Yeah you don't wanna experiment rape anyone lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:07 PM
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It's easy enough to just do it without telling your partner and letting them react naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 05:03 PM
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Among adults aged 25–44, about 98% of women and 97% of men ever had vaginal intercourse http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nhsr/nhsr036.pdf And that is US data, not UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:32 PM
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Yet another reason the UK is best country 😄
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:30 PM
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Yeah, experiments have to have informed consent. I'm not going to unilaterally decide to change all my behaviour- he has veto and I feel like it would be not being supportive to his needs not to let him know what I'm doing. /u/CoochQuarantine has a point here though. This is why clinical trials have placebos. If you tell someone "I am doing this and expecting this" it has a big psychological effect. It's not the same as letting it play out naturally.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:26 PM
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Agree with all of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:09 PM
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It's already accepted that status and wealth can make you more alpha. Of course a rich and famous singer is alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 04:09 PM
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Ha cheers.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:35 PM
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That's fair, I got no idea what it's like in the US and vice versa. I am indeed a Britbong and it is piss easy to get laid here. And, if you'd like a holiday, as an American you'd probably have an easy time here too. Girls will be asking you what America is like and shit, because we get all the Hollywood films and TV over here constantly, and just like that you have your in.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 03:02 PM
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I honestly don't care enough to play the whole game where I google for a study, you poke holes in it, and we spend too much time arguing over self-reported, likely unreliable data. Besides, you're the one making the claim that it's so difficult, you show me a study to support that. Anyone can get laid if they're going after girls on their level. The only guys who have massive difficulty with this are way below average. But that's an uncomfortable truth for many on TRP, so they made up the 80/20 …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:53 PM
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The average single man who is out looking for ONS probably gets laid at least a couple times a month.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:30 PM
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It's not difficult to go out and have sex with an average girl if you are an average guy. If you think otherwise, your view of the world has been distorted by the beta incel circlejerk.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 02:27 PM
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Whatever helps you feel better man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:48 PM
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my eyebrows are totes on fleek what language is this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:46 PM
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It's something everyone has to learn. Also, talking. No one automatically knows a language. You get my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 01:42 PM
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Never noticed this with any of my ex's either. If anything they get insecure if they think I've been with too many girls, like they think they can't match up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 09:11 AM
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I can definitely see why some guys do it, but it's not something I do. I don't care enough to lie about shit like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 09:10 AM
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Life is not black and white, it's a massive fuck off grey area. In the same spirit, it's not red or blue either. I think it's important to simply keep a sense of perspective about you in all areas of life. You shouldn't believe in something just because a group you like says it, you should analyse it and decide if it's right for you. It's like those people who will buy literally thing Apple makes just because it's Apple. Don't buy literally everything TRP says just because it's TRP. Don't buy li…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 09:00 AM
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The Tumblr orientations are on Wikipedia now? Fuck me. Next they'll be adding otherkin. Oh shit...
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 08:09 AM
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If walking is so natural why don't we walk straight out of the womb?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 07:09 AM
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The 80/20 rule is just there to help betas feel better about themselves. It has no basis in reality. The average male certainly gets laid. Not with a different supermodel each week, but he does just fine nonetheless.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 07:07 AM
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I'm far from a bloop but this is a ridiculous analogy. I take LSD for fun but I'd be pretty fucked up if someone kept randomly spiking me with it. I'm not some kind of CIA agent up in here.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/16 08:39 PM
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It's part of the count of course, but I don't really care about it as much if I'm honest. I just find it hot and I don't consider it to be something that competes with me - it's like apples and oranges.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 09:21 AM
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I do my shopping in 30 mins online. It gets delivered to me next day. Oh boy, what hard work that was. Lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 09:17 AM
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The whole of alimony is a ridiculous concept. There's this thing in life called opportunity cost, which is what you give up by taking a certain path in life. As an example, you can choose to start your own business but in doing so you are accepting the opportunity cost of not having a regular stable job in that time, and by extension not having job experience on your CV. And the inverse: you can take a regular job but you accept the opportunity cost of not starting your own business which could …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 09:15 AM
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Eccentricity = charming
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 08:54 AM
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The US is like the land of frivolous lawsuits, of course it would.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 08:50 AM
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If she's getting upset at me but can't even tell me why, that's not the type of person I want to be in a relationship with in the first place. I ain't got time for that nonsense. She can go find someone else who will validate her when she's upset at them for no reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/04/16 08:50 AM
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The doctor should be sued to shit and forced to pay childcare costs.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 03:16 PM
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The CEO of Abercrombie & Fitch was forced to resign because he said mean things about fatties. There is a political correctness element to this as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 02:17 PM
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Being eccentric, not necessarily "the clown", is very attractive to women. I think that's what you're getting at.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 11:40 AM
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"I feel like you're not listening to me recently." Okay but why do you think that? What have I done to make you think that? How can I fix that? Those questions never get bloody answered let me tell ya. If a girl starts coming to me with complaints about how she's feeling and can't back them up with a reason why, let alone a possible solution, I know shit is going south and there is nothing to be done.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 09:08 AM
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Of course it's sexy. It displays power. I could pretty much kill her if I wanted. Dat adrenaline rush.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 08:59 AM
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nice presentable men with decant jobs ARE getting women The question is though, are they getting women because they're nice and have a decent job? Probably not. Likely they have better social skills and appear more interesting and exciting to those around them (game), which then creates interest from women.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 08:48 AM
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No love for Stitches ITT.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 08:36 AM
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Then it's time to chang the subject.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 08:35 AM
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they also loved being hit, having their hair pulled, being spanked, bitten very hard etc Yup ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 08:34 AM
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Yep. She messaged me randomly one day and it went from there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 08:28 AM
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No.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 08:27 AM
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I agree with that. It's all categorised and given special names because of the internet. But the underlying ideas have always been there.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 08:26 AM
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Someone's sense of humour is broken.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/04/16 08:21 AM
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The 40 year old for sure, if she's in good shape a 40 year old can still be sexy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:36 PM
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Feminists take themselves out the market by being fat and having blue hair.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:30 PM
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Always am.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:26 PM
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Cool. Cool cool cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:19 PM
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I'd fuck a fatty over a tranny any day. I'd need Viagra for either though.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:17 PM
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Oh it's cool, I get off on creeping people out too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:15 PM
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Future time orientation. Basically do you think short term or long term. No idea what it has to do with teeth though lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:14 PM
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FetLife.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:10 PM
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It's easy to avoid permanent scarring if you only make shallow cuts. Although yeah we don't really include that as long term harm. Long term harm would be something that requires medical attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:08 PM
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I dunno, I find it hard to believe that this stuff is unique enough that no one has ever thought of it before the relatively recent invention of the internet. There's always been various outlets for this stuff. The Story of O contains some pretty hardcore shit and was written in 1954. And shit, look at the writings of Marquis de Sade from back in the 1800's, some of that shit even makes me blush.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 09:08 PM
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Always has been, the internet just exposes us to the bits that aren't usually discussed out in the open.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 09:01 PM
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I'm hesitant to call it roleplay because our whole relationship has a very real power dynamic. It's essentially total power exchange. Typically it is part of a roleplay scene or something though yes.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 08:58 PM
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Actually cutting them. In ways that don't actually cause any serious or long-term harm of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 08:50 PM
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Not even, soon you develop your own orbit so they can't even touch you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 08:26 PM
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It's become an addiction for real lol. Hello I'm UBC and I'm a purplepillaholic. Also I start every day with a bottle of morphine but it's the subreddit that really pushed me over the edge. "Hi UBC, thank you for sharing."
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 08:19 PM
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My gf would find it pretty mild compared to her own views on gender issues (very RP). My friends and family would probably just wonder why I bother wasting so much time discussing this bullshit. And honestly I often wonder the very same.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 08:05 PM
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Most weirdly specific ones I can think of is she must be into the same degenerate BDSM acts as me which include knifeplay and some pretty hardcore S&M, she must be open to drug use, and she should have tattoos or want them in the future. Pretty much the opposite of the girls RPers tend to lust after haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:59 PM
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That excludes us Brits from your dating pool then :(
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:57 PM
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Hey I have cookiebootz at +3 too, heh.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 07:51 PM
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It's your choice who you remain friends with, you don't owe them the choice if you decide for any reason you don't want to be associated with them anymore.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 06:39 PM
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Height definitely gives you an advantage, but not being 6ft isn't the death sentence many guys think it is. As long as you're average height you're fine since you can still find women shorter than you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 04:01 PM
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Isn't that called dry humping?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 03:53 PM
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Fucking excellent quote.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 03:12 PM
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Except world governments love to cosy up to China due to the fact trading with them is good their own country's economy and the Chinese government is currently very fucking rich. Our government in the UK love China. They don't give a fuck about all the human rights violations, they just see the money. And, well, that's people for you. I'd be a hypocrite if I insulted our government for this because I take the same attitude in doing business directly with Chinese companies. I just want cheap stuf…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 01:24 PM
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Right. But who argued any differently? Precisely what is it you are even responding to with that comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 11:15 AM
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Who actually argued that women can choose who they find attractive? You're arguing against a thing no one said.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 11:13 AM
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Where did he say otherwise? The same is true for men anyway, men just select for different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 11:04 AM
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Of course I'm using a hyperbolic example, but it is undeniable that factories treat their workers badly and often underpay them. That is the whole reason China has a big manufacturing industry in the first place. You can get away with paying your workers pennies. Now I don't care, I actually import shit from China to resell myself, but it seems hypocritical to be fine with that but get all antsy when the topic of harming people for personal gain comes up. You're already taking part in it. Like t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 11:01 AM
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I have heard people argue that selling sex should be made legal in the US whereas buying sex should remain criminalized, which I think is silly. Ironically it also makes things more dangerous for the sex workers too since it means all their clients are criminals.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:51 AM
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This is very weird. You're saying girls post on FB literally saying "can I have a platonic male cuddle buddy?" No it's not wrong, selfish, or whatever. If a guy accepts that then cool, she's being very open, I see nothing morally wrong about that at all. But it is really weird, like if someone asked me that IRL I'd assume they were joking because it's simply an odd request.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:47 AM
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I believe you honestly, thinking back I had acne as a teen and to this day I cannot understand anyone finding me attractive even though I lost my virginity to a 10. I can imagine that if you've never had any sexual experience at all by the time you're 30 it would fuck you up in the head and you'd need to speak to someone who understood that if you were to get any help, and that is something very specialised which doesn't exactly have much research dedicated to it. So yeah I'm not even gonna argu…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:43 AM
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They need to train themselves to not value the opinions of strangers.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:30 AM
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I guess it depends on the origin of your issues. A guy who is very ugly won't have that problem fixed by therapy. But social anxiety can certainly be helped using CBT. Incel is a big umbrella with a lot of different issues under it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:30 AM
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Out of curiosity, what approach do you think therapy should try to be more effective for your issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:24 AM
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I feel the same, I do not find any pleasure in ONS, only sex within a relationship. I've turned down ONS after I had a couple because I quickly realised I simply didn't enjoy it. I hope you find a relationship soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:13 AM
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You're absolutely right that it's taboo to discuss in public but therapists are used to dealing with way worse, man.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 10:11 AM
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You joke, but serial killers get a lot of female attention.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 09:24 AM
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Could they break the law unflinchingly? If this is the working definition of alpha I find it ironic you told me that it's okay for an "alpha" to be scared of breaking the law (wrt seeing prostitutes) recently and you just threw childish insults at me when I pointed out that this is a beta attitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 09:22 AM
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They certainly exist but I'd never date one.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 09:17 AM
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If you feel like it's taboo to discuss that stuff with your therapist you should get a new one you are more comfortable with. Clearly it is your main issue and you need to be able to feel comfortable discussing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 09:15 AM
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Wat? I'm not saying the act of venting is a mental illness...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 08:51 AM
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See this is why I recommend therapy, it's a sad situation but speaking to a professional can really help.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 08:50 AM
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Bet you still own multiple things made in Chinese sweatshops. Have you ever bought anything from Apple?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 08:49 AM
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I know, I feel this myself. This is why I got low self-esteem myself when it comes to my looks. As a kid I had acne so even now I don't understand why anyone would find me attractive. But you can get over that in time, especially if you are working out and you start seeing the results.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/04/16 08:48 AM
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/u/madness20 is indeed correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 01:45 PM
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Idiocracy was right.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 01:39 PM
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Honestly the only advice I give these people these days is to see a therapist or get some other kind of professional help because they obviously have underlying mental health issues that cannot simply be dealt with online. So I agree you in part there. But they will go mad at that as well. They are adamant that if they had sex tomorrow all their problems would suddenly disappear, and here I think they are very misguided. They are doing nothing but using a lack of sex as a scapegoat for all their…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 01:24 PM
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winning friends and influencing people. Nicer words for manipulation then. If you want something from someone you obviously want to give a certain impression to that person, but what I'm saying is you shouldn't let yourself get upset just because random people you have no business with (especially on the internet) don't like you. Some random girl doesn't like you, who cares? You just met her, don't get butthurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 11:52 AM
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Why can't I tell them that men get to choose their spouses and that if they choose a spouse that divorces them it's their fault for having poor judgement? You can and I agree with this completely. That's exactly why I'm against marriage in the first place. I don't think it's wise to make that level of commitment to anyone even if in the moment you think they're perfect. You cannot predict what they will do in the future so you should not tie your own fate to theirs.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 11:43 AM
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If I got butthurt because of what random people on Reddit thought of me, you'd probably say I was insecure right? There's a difference between manipulating people and genuinely caring what those people think.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 11:26 AM
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Well as I said, if I was ranting about having a hard time finding work and someone gave me advice to help fix that problem, I'd be grateful. Responding to advice with anger is just strange and it suggests there's deeper issues going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/16 11:19 AM
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Lol they get really mad if you respond to their rants with advice though. I don't think someone who was having trouble finding a job would do that if you gave them hints on how to make their CV stand out more.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 11:19 PM
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You misunderstand. If he is after a relationship, obsessing purely over the sex without coming up with a practical plan to obtain a relationship or even become relationship material is pointless. I feel this attitude is reflected in many of their rants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 11:09 PM
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So they're putting the horse before the cart, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 10:58 PM
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Good for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 10:56 PM
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If sex was really the primary concern they'd just fuck hookers. But they do want the emotional intimacy too, they'll admit this themselves in their angry rants.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 10:56 PM
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So you want them to be beta bux? That's a last resort for the desperate in my mind, but with that said, if anyone qualifies for that it's gotta be incels so maybe that's not such terrible advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 10:27 PM
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Yeah but you acknowledge that's not regular behaviour. I'm just pointing out that this does go both ways. I don't think it's as simple as "masculine is good and feminine is bad." It's simply that people are expected to fill their roles. Whether that's right or wrong is of course a whole other discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 10:24 PM
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Eh, people should only care what their close friends, family, or SOs think of them. Judging yourself based on what random strangers think of you is just a sign of insecurity. That's a whole deeper problem. I do think that many incels have much deeper problems than just a lack of sex, insecurity being just the tip of the iceberg.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 10:22 PM
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When it comes to physicality yes. But when it comes to things like character I think masculinity is considered superior. You don't think that telling a woman she acts like a man might also be considered an insult? Because I've found that it very much is in many cases.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 10:21 PM
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If you tell a woman she has masculine qualities it is seen as an insult to most women you know. I accidentally said a woman had a deep voice and got a fucking death glare once lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 10:10 PM
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For the same reason that SJWs go mad if you try to argue women can be sexist or blacks can be racist. Oppression olympics all the way down.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 09:58 PM
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Because people commit misdemeanors all the time. You really think incels are all perfect goodie two-shoes who never smoked weed or hopped on a train without a ticket or whatever? Please. Being a john is not realistically going to get you in trouble and they know it. And even if one of these guys was a perfect do-no-wrong who simply cannot stomach the idea of ever committing an action prohibited by the authorities, if they are so devastated by lack of sex that it's all they can think about, they …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 09:57 PM
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This is just jealousy of women like I also mentioned in the old thread. Honestly if an incel guy was able to become a woman who kept getting pumped and dumped I'm sure he'd change his attitude very quick.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 09:50 PM
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They need to sort their self-esteem out then. Why are they basing their self-worth on the opinions of others?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 09:49 PM
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Same. Good to learn from your mistakes though. "You cannot love everyone; it is ridiculous to think you can. If you love everyone and everything you lose your natural powers of selection and wind up being a pretty poor judge of character and quality. If anything is used too freely it loses its true meaning." -Anton LaVey
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 08:50 PM
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As I said in the old thread: Incels are actually complaining about a lack of emotional intimacy disguised as complaining about a lack of sex, probably because they think focusing on sex makes them look more manly than just admitting they're lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 08:38 PM
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Oh yeah I do the same. No one gets sympathy from me unless I'm already close to them. I won't even pretend to care about someone unless there's something in it for me. The few people I do care about, they're the ones who actually care about me and deserve my sympathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 08:36 PM
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Life is unfair and unequal, accepting that is an important step of growing up. You should never expect sympathy from anyone just because you gave it to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 08:30 PM
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You won't get women to empathise with that no matter how you phrase it, they just don't place the same kind of value on sex as men. Why is the thread deleted?!! No idea, it shouldn't have been. Can't see what rule it broke.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 08:17 PM
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Yeah I know that's not your view, I'm just commenting on the incels who always bring up the law like that. It's fine if they want emotional intimacy and know they won't get that by paying, but the whole "I don't do it because it's illegal" thing is absolutely a cop-out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 08:05 PM
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They also claim women can't be socially awkward or lonely. It's like the opposite of penis envy man.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 07:57 PM
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Absolute cop-out.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 07:54 PM
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Incels are actually complaining about a lack of emotional intimacy disguised as complaining about a lack of sex, probably because they think focusing on sex makes them look more manly than just admitting they're lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 07:50 PM
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They do if you order the girlfriend experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 07:48 PM
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grabs popcorn
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 07:47 PM
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No probs. Another interesting fact for ya, meth is a prescription drug in the USA under the brand name Desoxyn, it's used for ADHD.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 07:17 PM
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You typed that on a device which was likely made by a child who is virtually a slave in a sweatshop. In purchasing it you funded the company who does business with that sweatshop. We've all harmed people even if only indirectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 07:05 PM
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"Bath salts" is just MDPV, an NDRI which is not nearly as bad as meth. A lot of the scaremongering around that shit was just media myth, like it didn't actually make a guy eat someone's face off. I mean it's not good for you, but meth is the worse drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 06:44 PM
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He's advocating a brave new world. Pass the fucking Soma and let's get going then.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 06:26 PM
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Jezebel is just privileged White women who need to shut the fuck up, or be forced to live in Saudi Arabia. No argument from me there, that's my sentiment exactly. I'm just pointing out that the reason everyone thinks that kind of bullshit is what feminism is, is because it's the most popular branch of feminism right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 12:16 PM
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That there is no such thing as "actual feminism", what constitutes feminism is defined by the actions of people who identify as feminists. You can't pick a particular strand of feminism and say only that one is the real feminism because it's what makes the movement look good. The bullshit on Jezebel has just as much claim to being feminism as the more sensible equalist arguments, except the former is much louder and much more widespread.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 12:11 PM
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That's about authority not what someone would do for a reward. The Stanford prison experiment it more relevant to this scenario imo. There wasn't even a monetary reward the more you do, people just love being sadists.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 11:25 AM
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True dat. Bet cokehead bankers don't get their kids taken away.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 11:18 AM
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like people get their kids taken for smokey pot Murica! Land of the free! Blah blah...
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 11:14 AM
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Actual feminism Good old No True Scotsman eh? :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 11:12 AM
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The second type is an anxious attachment style. This happens when affection, support, and attention from the other person occurs unreliably and is frequently unavailable. People with this style "worry that others may not love them completely, and be easily frustrated or angered when their attachment needs go unmet." Hey look it's my girlfriend! The third type is an avoidant attachment style. This happens when affection, support, and attention are hardly ever available causing an anxiety burnout.…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 08:27 AM
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Two of them, in fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 11:19 PM
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Excellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 11:00 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/uqVOxaK.png
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 10:59 PM
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This actually made me laugh out loud. I dunno why.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 10:57 PM
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Sounds like a selection bias to me. You just happen to have dated a disproportionate number of girls who got abused.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 10:51 PM
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Does this mean all women like knifeplay because my gf does then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 10:40 PM
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What about someone who gets addicted to prescription drugs they got from their doctor? And the doctor falsely assured the patient they'd be safe? Because that's basically how the whole heroin epidemic in the US happened.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 10:21 PM
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Being a drug addict does not absolve you of responsibility for your actions. And that's coming from me, who fucking loves morphine.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 10:14 PM
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There's also some men who get turned on by girls crying (dacryphilia... not that I know about these things... heh...) but that doesn't say much about male sexuality in general though. I think /u/TyrianPlum makes a good point that you don't see fat men in porn simply because women are not really the target audience for porn even if women with that fetish do exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 10:02 PM
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Haha my thoughts exactly honestly. I was on my way to see my girlfriend. I could have been having sex but instead I sat on a fucking train going nowhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 09:56 PM
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Now this makes it much more difficult. My close friends and family, honestly no. I wouldn't do it. I only have four people I would actually call close friends and they are family to me. Same with my girlfriend. But if we expand it to casual acquaintances or more distant friends then I'd be more inclined to accept. There's people like old flatmates I'm apathetic about and wouldn't care if I had to watch them get tortured or die.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 09:45 PM
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A bit of light torture maybe. $500k I'd let someone get sniped - quick and painless and they don't even see it coming. I'd peg it at $1m before the proper in your face torture and slow painful murder shit starts. You know I was once on a train when someone jumped in front of it. I saw dismembered body parts out of the window. I didn't even get paid for that at all and my train was delayed for a whole hour. Aside from annoyance at the delay I didn't care at all. So really this is just an exercise…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 09:36 PM
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Hey at least meth addicts are thin.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 08:23 PM
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This is like the movie The Button. Anyway. I'm guessing I'll get the $1bn if the stranger is tortured and murdered? Because of course I'll take that fucking deal. You'd be an idiot not to.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 08:17 PM
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people see guys having sex with fat women as "taking advantage of them" I've literally never seen anyone make this argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 08:13 PM
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Does anyone disagree? The view is guys won't get praised for fucking fatties because there's no challenge. But I've not seen anyone on PPD hate on guys for fucking fatties. Hey they're easy, why not? Just don't expect the same validation you'd get for fucking a hot girl.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 07:11 PM
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Past performance is not a predictor of future results. Any investor will tell you that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 06:48 PM
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So you're just saying look professional basically (because looking like a bimbo obviously isn't)? That's a standard applied to everyone, just in different ways. Men have to wear a suit in a professional environment, they don't have any kind of clothing choice like women do. No point complaining about either though, that's just how shit is. Neither is some big social issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 06:19 PM
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I think this is a big point of contention for RP vs. BP. Because regretting sex doesn't suddenly make it rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 05:00 PM
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So that women can have "masculine" jobs Where's the campaign for more female toilet cleaners and factory workers then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 04:55 PM
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Women need to make themselves unattractive if they want to appear intelligent Hang on, one minute I am told by the feminists that women are pressured to use makeup etc because women are not taken seriously if they don't look good, now I'm being told that women have to make themselves purposefully ugly instead? Make up your bloody minds!
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 04:52 PM
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Man I'd chill with you, you're exactly the kind of person I like being friends with. I'll share this bottle of morphine with ya.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 10:46 AM
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It's a community for appreciating D12.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 10:39 AM
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Early 20's is still young as fuck. Giving up so early would be pathetic. Most guys can turn it around and get laid at that age if they're willing to put work into self-improvement. College is overhyped also. Don't obsess over that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 10:27 AM
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Obligatory: it's only creepy if you don't follow the two rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 10:23 AM
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I think coffee shops are similar to bars where they're a social environment and if you're there on your own you can expect that someone might come up to you, so it's fairly socially acceptable to approach a girl there. But I definitely agree with OP that cold approaching in random places is bad advice and I'd never follow it. You end up acting like a charity mugger but you're trying to sell your dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 10:22 AM
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No I agree with you, going by the proper definition of popular TRP will never reach it. I was thinking of popular as in well known, that's why I described it as famous instead in the following comment.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 10:08 AM
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Weasel words my friend. You are the one justifying it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 09:48 AM
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Beards are just the current trend, I don't think there's anything deeper than that going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 09:39 AM
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It all just comes back to who's been more oppressed in the recent past. You can say more insensitive things about white people and men in the media because they weren't recently oppressed. You can't say as insensitive things about women or black people in the media because they were, in the recent-past, subjected to a level of oppression. Only a fool would see it as anything more than this.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 09:38 AM
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Fair enough, I'd say TRP is becoming more famous though, and even if that fame comes from hate, it will drive popularity within certain circles especially as the alt-right as a whole is only growing and growing.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 09:36 AM
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Your whole comment was justifying why it's okay to insult whites and men but not blacks and women, same difference. My point stands: it's the same thing either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 09:34 AM
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Ah Guardian comments...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 09:31 AM
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"Journalism" is very broad. It depends on the publication. You're right that the Guardian is left but someone could certainly publish a pro-RP article in Breitbart for example. The way you're talking you'd think the whole landscape was as left as the Guardian.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 09:29 AM
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/u/pk_atheist And yeah all subreddits say "created by" on the sidebar but you can edit that out in the CSS which I think TRP did.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 08:57 AM
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It very much is popular. If you have a hit piece written about you, you're popular. And there's no such thing as bad press. As you and many others have pointed out, this stuff is ultimately free advertising for TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 08:51 AM
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Sorry, your made up definition of sexism and racism doesn't hold up in the real world. Here outside of Tumblr the definition is discriminating against someone for their gender or race. The oppression olympics does not come into it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 07:46 AM
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Emma Watson would have done better for her existing career and shiny reputation by keeping her trap shut.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/04/16 07:42 AM
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I agree that she shouldn't just drop her respect because he's going through a tough time, but that's not the same as her having to be a "yes man" either. I think there's a happy medium.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 09:09 PM
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I'm not a red piller. I'm just putting the article out there for discussion and I'm pointing out its biases.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 09:04 PM
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Maybe in Britain they really do have crumpets and tea in locker rooms, and drink from cups with extended pinky fingers. Can confirm that is not what we do. It's more like "oi you see that bird over there, she's got nice tits, I'm gonna shag her harder than I shagged your chavvy mum m8." Keep in mind though Guardian readers are stereotyped as annoying snobs. Thought that would have attracted some further comment from the author. Guess not. Yeah same here, I feel like he dodged what RPS was actual…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 08:58 PM
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Bit of a tangent but I find it hilarious anyone takes Emma Watson seriously. I even saw her referred to as a "contemporary feminist thinker" the other day. For fuck's sake, she's a rich posh bitch with her head too far up her own arse to understand what the real world looks like. I still want to see Emma Watson spend a week in a refugee camp to prove how nice and feminist they are lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 08:52 PM
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No I absolutely have power in my relationship. I just feel like leadership is something I should earn by demonstrating my skill. If I am given it by default I just feel patronised. I want to feel appreciated, not pitied.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 08:48 PM
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Yeah they did very good work with the Snowden leaks. It's just a shame they don't uphold the same journalistic standards elsewhere in their publication. They're meant to be a broadsheet but more and more of their content is reeking of tabloid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 08:19 PM
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Do you not feel the same as a guy? Am a man and even if I don't go out anywhere, wearing jeans makes me feel better than just throwing on sweatpants.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 08:15 PM
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I found it weird that he acknowledged that the anger phase is not the entirety of TRP, but he then went on to call the rest of TRP "pathetic" anyway. He uses an example of someone asking simple advice on if a girl likes him or not to show this. It just seems like yet another form of "why don't you just get it?" attack. The beef seems to be with the very idea that someone would need to ask questions about the world of socialising in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 08:07 PM
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Of course, I didn't expect anything positive, although I also didn't expect such a mess of an article either. It seems to flip flop around trying to sound smart while just coming off as a condescending /r/iamverysmart rant that could have easily been posted on Tumblr. I'd be interested mostly in what blues think of it though. Do they see more meaning in it than I did?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 08:01 PM
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I agree with this and I'm a man in such a relationship. I'd hate for my gf to only listen to me to protect my ego; it's not that fragile. She should listen to me because she genuinely believes my judgement can be trusted.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 07:48 PM
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But only one of the parents needs to consent to the testing. You do not need to test both parents. Therefore it does not matter if the mother doesn't want to be tested - she doesn't need to be tested, only the father does. Likewise it does not matter if the father does not want to be tested - he doesn't need to be tested, only the mother does.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 07:38 PM
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Still shows up for me. Here.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 06:08 PM
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Oh yeah I can agree with that. Looks are at the top of the list for what matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 06:08 PM
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Because it's testing without consent. It's literally a mouth swab. We're not talking about a surgical procedure here. Also, it should be kept in mind the mother doesn't have to even be tested if she doesn't want. You could compare the dad's and the kid's DNA without mum being involved. Or if the dad objected, you could do the same with just the mum and the kid. Only one parent needs to actually be tested.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 05:46 PM
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What point are you trying to prove? I never said looks don't matter, I just said they're not the only thing that does.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 05:44 PM
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My girlfriend isn't strictly a RPW but we definitely have a traditional dynamic in our relationship. She runs all the shit in her life outside of the relationship so she finds it enjoyable to have our life together controlled by me. She also believes in traditional gender roles and thinks the man should be in control of a relationship. Our dynamic was slowly built up over time as she began to trust me. We fully trust each other and she will ultimately accept my judgement if we disagree on anythi…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 05:39 PM
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I mean yeah it's definitely true that people (male or female) with good looks get their mistakes treated more lightly, but that isn't really relevant to what he said. He stated that the only reason incels are incels is because of their looks. I disagree. While looks are important, the fact they often come off as genuinely autistic is more of a handicap.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 05:30 PM
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Idk, I seem to be considered attractive but I used to have terrible social skills. It's only in the past few years that I've really overcome that, and most of that development isn't even really being less weird, more from hanging out with equally weird people. One of my ex-girlfriends was very hot but she barely had any friends IRL and made all her friends online. Including me. I'm inclined to disagree with your view here. This seems to be some kind of Reddit beta fantasy for some reason. That n…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 05:27 PM
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Still a big ball of gas. How's Mars? Is Matt Damon still there?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 05:14 PM
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You genuinely believe that no one who looks good has bad social skills and vice versa?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 02:45 PM
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Wonderful music.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 02:30 PM
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Looks definitely matter a lot but you are foolish to think personality isn't another important factor. Charisma is extremely important for attraction. There's a very good reason that many of the incels and others who have trouble getting laid are not exactly good at their social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 02:29 PM
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Well then we might as well stop talking, you're clearly living on a different planet to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 01:50 PM
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I find it ironic that the serpent is the bad guy in that story when he was giving the humans knowledge and it was god who wanted to keep us ignorant. My answer to your question runs along very similar lines: knowledge is a tool you can use to your advantage, hence the old saying knowledge is power. It is best to use knowledge of how the world works to achieve whatever goal you personally wish to follow. Personally, when it comes to dating, all I care about is finding a girl I get along with well…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 10:45 AM
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Also for the guys, feel free to respond.. I think it's totally possible for a guy to be "alpha widow'd" by a woman who they couldn't normally pull Eh kinda. The first girl I banged was 10/10. She was crazy, but very very sexy. I still think about her sometimes because why wouldn't I? But this: Do you feel emotionally broken and not able to connect as well with new(er) partners? I don't relate to at all. Even if I had my pick right now, I'd pick my current girlfriend over that ex every time. My c…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 09:55 AM
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/thread
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 09:31 AM
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time is an illusion; a product of the structure of our consciousness, which could not exist without temporal movement. The future is merely an expression, an extension, of the past. Bro pass that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 08:22 AM
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I've been where you are and seriously you really should get help.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 08:11 AM
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It's classic male hamster. The guys making those threads are below average so they project their perceived failures onto the average man to feel better about themselves. "It's not that I'm below average, it's just that all average men do badly. Yeah, that must be it..."
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 08:09 AM
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When you get older all of this is basically nonsense My thoughts exactly. Anyone who is concerned they can't make female friends in case they get a crush on one of them comes across as very immature to me. If she's not into you just move on, if you're just crushing on someone it shouldn't be some big deal. If you're really worried that crushing on a female friend will turn you into a full on beta orbiter, as OP seems to suggest, that's your problem to work out.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 08:02 AM
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That's still you. It's you all over.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 07:57 AM
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Yeah I'd just assume she's not interested lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 07:48 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/VldXsqZ.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 07:45 AM
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A good plan.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 07:33 AM
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Where did I say I was offered it before an SSRI? Please link to where I said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 07:27 AM
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Well, would you disagree that eating an excess of shitty food causes diabetes is a universal fact, not just an opinion? And that it's in the long term interest of humans to preserve their health? This isn't complicated stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/16 07:26 AM
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Speak for yourself, this is not how most men think.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 05:26 PM
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Same here. Always had better luck online. I've also never had a fattie pretend to be thin, but maybe that's because I always insist on a video chat before I meet specifically to avoid catfishing.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 05:12 PM
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Quetiapine is the go-to.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 05:02 PM
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I've always considered giving oral sex to be a somewhat submissive act since you're pleasing your partner while not getting any pleasure from the act yourself. Well, unless you 69 of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 12:23 PM
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You are talking in the abstract whereas I'm talking about real world applications. You can claim the abstract idea of logic would support cats have gills in a world where cats are fish, whatever. I don't care about jerking off to hypothetical philosophy. All I am interested in is how logic can actually be applied in the world we live in. And in that world, junk food gives you diabetes and it's in everyone's best interest not to eat it daily. Not just me, but everyone on the planet.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 12:15 PM
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If you knowingly do something which will damage your health you are making an illogical choice. Logic is not based on personal opinion, emotion is.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 12:01 PM
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http://www.medicaldaily.com/why-smarter-people-are-more-likely-be-mentally-ill-270039
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 11:59 AM
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I wish this is what MGTOW focused on instead of bitching about hating women all the time. It'd be a much more positive community then.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 11:50 AM
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Anti psychotics are definitely not given out like candy. To be fair, yes they are. A lot of doctors like prescribing them off-label for anxiety to avoid prescribing benzos for example. I have never had psychosis in my life and I've been offered anti-psychotics multiple times for anxiety. It's ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 11:46 AM
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Ah then yeah you're one of the unlucky ones. It is a shame, it's a fucking miracle drug for socialising. I actually put it above proper stimulants as a social drug.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 11:36 AM
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Because you're talking bullshit lol. Look mate I'm on morphine right now, it feels really good. But is it a logical decision to use morphine recreationally? Fuck no! Of course not! I will happily admit this, because no human is 100% logical. I don't understand why you have a problem with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 11:34 AM
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That was your mistake. Take 1 gram in one go with no prior use for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 07:58 AM
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I'm challenging the view that there's anything to really challenge because this is like making a thread titled "CMV: It's fun to eat oranges." It depends if you like oranges or not. What's there to discuss?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 07:09 AM
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It takes like 2-3 hours to kick in, you have to patient. 4 grams is too much without a tolerance. 1-2 grams is the sweet spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 06:52 AM
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Yeah diabetes or stimulant psychosis are just my opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 06:09 AM
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Only shitty psychopaths make people feel uncomfortable, the good ones know how to fake charm and charisma perfectly. Aspies lack cognitive empathy but have a lot of affective empathy. They can't read people at all but they still feel for them. Psychopaths lack affective empathy but have a lot of cognitive empathy. They can read people better than most but don't care about them emotionally. That's why aspies just walk around being awkward and psychopaths are able to manipulate people etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 06:02 AM
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That's why I recommended phenibut. Does no one bother to use Google these days? I don't wanna just drop a link because I'll look like I'm promoting someone's shop or whatever but it's a "supplement" (I'll be straight, it's a legal drug) that increases confidence and energy while decreasing anxiety. It's actually a downer not a stim so there's no real side effects, just don't take it too often. But that shit is like my secret for a perfect first date.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 05:58 AM
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Let the ENTPs squabble while the INTJs invent everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 05:52 AM
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Yeah you're certainly not normal. It sounds like you are masking social anxiety. You'd be better served seeking treatment for that than diving deeper into actually believing this kind of nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 06:05 PM
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Oh yeah Jezebel is an extreme example, but I think it's just reality that breast cancer in men is not widely recognised or taken seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 06:04 PM
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Let me guess, are you MGTOW?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 05:39 PM
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Being average.-looking means the woman is not disgusted by you but is not sexually attracted to you. So you literally believe most men cannot have sex with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 05:34 PM
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This may sound crazy but most men are actually average looking, not super ugly and deformed, and most men have average social skills too. So most men can easily make themselves more "alpha" with a bit of work (more confidence, lifting). The only people who tend to disagree with this are incels looking for scapegoats.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 05:19 PM
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A job you are passionate about is more fulfilling than a job you don't care about even if the latter makes you more money. If fitness is his passion and he's able to make a living from it, more power to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 05:03 PM
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Well first of all thank you for all the compliments lol. But I used to be socially awkward and overweight, the fact I'm not those things now is down to the fact I put a lot of work in to improve myself. The power for this is all in your hands.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 05:02 PM
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Not so much, I just get a weird kind of anxiety where if someone doesn't message me for a while they must suddenly hate me. But mostly I am alright at maintaining friendships.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 03:59 PM
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Edited it out. Seriously though /u/Ardubinston speak to someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 03:58 PM
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INTJ master race beats all.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 03:55 PM
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Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 03:51 PM
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Stop blaming your romantic failures on autism. If you have the ability to write all this crap you are relatively high functioning and with effort you can learn to successfully socialise. If you choose not to that's your problem.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 03:50 PM
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It's just another form of prejudice like the others you're already engaging in.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 03:49 PM
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Because the long term consequences will cause more harm than the short term pleasure is worth. You ever seen a meth head or someone so obese they can barely stand up? That ain't "logical."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 03:48 PM
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If it wasn't scripted that just makes it even more cringeworthy tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 03:46 PM
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Exactly, it's perfectly possible to enjoy socialising as an introvert. You'll just need to have some alone time after to get your energy back.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 03:46 PM
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Who the fuck is going to laugh at men with breast cancer? You'd be surprised. Jezebel even did it in the same article where they advocated domestic violence against men. I can dig up the link you're curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 03:44 PM
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because you are very good looking Could be. I have low self-esteem myself but the hot girls I've been able to pull does suggest I am somewhat good looking. But I actually did an experiment not too long ago, started up an Okc profile with literally no photo uploaded at all and started talking to girls. Was still able to hit it off with a few. The power of charisma. when they hit on girls in their social group they are rejected Only if they go about it the wrong way. You don't randomly hit on your…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 03:42 PM
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Idk pegging seems to be getting more popular these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 10:39 AM
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Breat cancer affects men also. Yeah but it's not taken seriously in men. If you're a man who says he has breast cancer people will laugh at you. Obligatory Archer rampage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 10:36 AM
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To be fair here, I disagree with wombat in almost everything but I've never seen this happen either. I've seen men give up seats for pregnant women but not perfectly healthy able ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 10:32 AM
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It's the same everywhere in the West these days. It's been switched up, you're now a baddie if you're a woman who doesn't have a career. I mean that is just as bad imo and people should just let and let live but it's definitely incorrect to suggest that career women are condemned in the West these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 10:30 AM
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Sure, if it's someone I knew and trusted. You come across as the kind of person who crosses the street when you see a black man.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 10:27 AM
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Well, would you call all Catholics paedophiles just because a few priests were? Of course not. Likewise, it makes no sense to say all police don't care about DV because of a tiny minority.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 10:24 AM
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Yeah I think that is him. If that's what he's referencing that whole thing is very obviously scripted and is not nearly as impressive as he's claiming.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 10:23 AM
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What's wrong with being a personal trainer? You come off quite elitist here.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 09:20 AM
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Are you claiming the Catholic Church got absolutely no flack when they were discovered? That they're not still hated for it to this day?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 09:17 AM
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Upboats for actual context.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 09:14 AM
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What he's saying is if you are scared of talking about RP ideas in real life you are bad at "selling" them properly. And he's right. If you just quote the subreddit verbatim in real life you will probably come off as someone with bad social skills, which is what autistic means in this context. If you reword it to be more lowkey and much less angry than many of the TRP posters, then people will often accept those ideas. I can tell you from real life experience this is true, explain these ideas in…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 09:12 AM
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AUTISTIC TO ASS TASTIC Absolute fucking gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 08:58 AM
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If there is a profit motive then the media will cover something. Exactly. They make what's popular. Occupy was popular so they made stuff about it. I don't see the conspiracy. There was no attempt to hide anything, the media hopped on the bandwagon because they saw the $$$.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 08:55 AM
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I get you there. First time I met a girl in real life from the internet I kinda froze up and got all awkward. Not too awkward to bang her anyway, but still, my online persona was far better than my real life one. This is a learning process though. I did it a few times with different girls and now I'm very confident because my thought process is different. Instead of "oh, I can't live up to my online persona" it's "this girl clearly already likes me, the hard part is over, I just have to keep doi…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 08:53 AM
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This feels way too conspiracy theory for me to take seriously. That same media makes movies and shows to capitalise on the Occupy movement. Have you watched Dark Knight Rises? Come on, massive nod to Occupy in that movie. And Mr Robot? That one came out just recently and it's all about taking down the financial system and creating anarchy. Now obviously there is an irony here, but it certainly tells me there is no conspiracy to distract people from those issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 08:49 AM
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Most of it is just using autism as a synonym for bad social skills, like how calling someone a fag doesn't mean you're literally saying they're homosexual.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 08:42 AM
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In the 90's? Self-dx snowflakes are still alive and well, check Tumblr.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 08:41 AM
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I like your flair.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 08:39 AM
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realizing it's worthless to be so invested in something I can't control. So you came back to PPD. There's a joke in this somewhere. Good to see you back anyway, you're cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 08:37 AM
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I don't think it's a good route to go down for numerous reasons. Why not? You got me curious now. I've met girls on Tumblr and Twitter too, as well as Okcupid. It's really fucking easy as long as you're not ugly and have an interesting personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 08:27 AM
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Make an account on Okc and Tinder then. I met my girlfriend through FetLife.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 08:21 AM
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Mate there have been paedophile rings discovered in high up places too, does that mean society is all lovey dovey towards them? You are taking a tiny percentage of people who are getting in trouble for breaking the rules and saying "everybody clearly does this!"
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 08:18 AM
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First of all you're making the mistake of conflating introversion with disliking socialising. Introversion simply means that socialising uses up your energy. It does not mean that you have to dislike being social. That said, me personally I am the same as you. I am introverted and generally I dislike large social events. I prefer chilling with a few friends when I socialise and I hate big parties. But does that make me any less successful sexually, even if I were to only go by RP advice? Fuck no…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 08:13 AM
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What the fuck does that have to do with the law? That's your own problem to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 08:07 AM
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Can I have a link? Not even doubting it, just wanna see.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 07:49 AM
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the abuse or harassment of vulnerable victims of crime, including domestic violence victims, by a small number of police officers In what way does this indicate a general trend of how police treat DV victims?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 07:47 AM
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If meth makes me happy, and I want to be happy, then I will smoke meth. Logic! We're seriously just going in circles here, probably no point.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/16 07:45 AM
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Feminism ran out of real issues ages ago so they made up this "intersectionalism" thing to make it easy to keep inventing new ones. Also big words make them sound smart ofc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 08:44 PM
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Used only in a small number of exceptional cases because it's based on need not simply continuation of current lifestyle. It's also only really used in high profile cases involving very rich people. For example if your wife is disabled and you're a millionaire, you might have to pay maintenance to your disabled wife since she would find it difficult to work because of disability and you are capable of supporting her. But outside of extreme circumstances like that, nah, it doesn't happen. You can…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 08:28 PM
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The article is about the bill, which talks about both alimony and child custody Ah fair enough. I just skimmed the bit you quoted. Whether or not other countries have alimony doesn't make its right or wrong. No but it does defeat your argument that alimony is "really important" to allow women to leave a bad marriage. There is no alimony in the UK and dare I say our divorce rate is very similar to the US. And alimony larger goes to women. I think that it should be equally allowed for men and wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 08:10 PM
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Hey I'm not against it, women getting their tits out is hardly against my interests.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 08:08 PM
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The article you linked is specifically about alimony and the first line is: Currently the statute enables judges, after reviewing broad statutory criteria, to consider the best interests of the child. Sounds like it suggests alimony is connected to children. If we want to allow women to leave unhappy marriages, alimony is really important for it. The rest of the world gets along fine without it. Respect for actually admitting alimony is for benefiting women though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 05:05 PM
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I agree that the child support system should be reformed don't get me wrong but it exists for children not women. Alimony is stupid but no one forces you to get married and you make that decision knowing alimony is a possibility. Don't sign a contract if you don't like the terms. Female only services is not "forcing men to coddle women."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 05:00 PM
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I'm going to just let this attitude speak for itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 04:30 PM
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To be fair I imagine it depends on your environment. I was never given any different advice growing up, at least not from adults.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 04:15 PM
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Honestly, I don't know why TRPers put so much weight into this one phrase. Because it's repeated incessantly to impressionable kids and teens and it's a lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 04:10 PM
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the law forces men to coddle women Wat.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 03:56 PM
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I think I've mentioned them like three whole times.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 03:56 PM
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I'd agree with the same argument for girls too. People are self-interested. You have to deal with reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 03:30 PM
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I've tried to give you advice many times and you've ignored it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 03:24 PM
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How am I emotionally invested? The only emotion I feel towards incels is annoyance, the only reason I have any opinion of them at all is because they come to PPD to whine about how hard they have it while making no effort to change. And they do this in every thread they post in.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 03:19 PM
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The irony of feminists grouping adult women with children. Ultra kek.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 03:12 PM
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You should be yourself. If you're an ugly slob with a bad attitude (and even worse hygiene), don't be too surprised that people aren't throwing themselves at you. This is exactly the reason it's such a useless and damaging platitude. It tells people who should be improving that they don't need to. I notice you switch it up at the end of your post to say "be your best self" but that is an entirely different statement from "be yourself."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 03:02 PM
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Yup. It's not as complicated as many are making out. It's this simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 02:50 PM
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That's exactly what you're saying. One of your own examples was "if McDonald's makes me happy, it's logical to eat it every day." Apparently to you anything that makes you happy is a logical action.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 02:47 PM
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Urm, what're you even asking? Nurse Jackie I liked this show, it was a realistic depiction of addiction that didn't go stupidly over the top like Requiem for a Dream (ASS TO ASS!)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 02:17 PM
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It did to the people who thought up the ideology of course. But I'm talking about the people who recruited others to join it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 02:12 PM
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Assuming you meant "my brother's a police officer", that's a great sample size you have there!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 02:11 PM
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Do you actually believe the things you type? If yes, do you ever go outside?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 12:10 PM
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The IRA lured in noobies using group comfort to sell their ideology, absolutely. Look at how much effort ISIS puts into their propaganda. They don't just put out potato footage of cutting off some guy's head, they have Hollywood production values and they set up social media accounts to recruit people. They even advertise that they will pay for your education and healthcare, fucking seriously. They understand how important it is to make people feel comfortable in your group so they adopt your id…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 12:01 PM
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So? An improbable thing was reported on the news, fuck me.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 11:56 AM
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So you're not logical because you smoke weed? Indeed, my decision to smoke weed is emotional. It's not logical to smoke weed. Makes you less functional. I do it anyway cuz it feels good. My answer won't change. Fine, but I will continue to assume you're wrong because "if it feels good, it's logical" is a stupid argument. I'm not saying hedonism is bad, I'm just saying it's not necessarily a guide for what's logical.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 11:56 AM
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Usually the feeling of belonging to a group. People who are brainwashed often didn't feel like they belonged before, so that feeling of belonging brings comfort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 11:33 AM
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Just as likely as this one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 11:30 AM
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What? Yes it was staged but the reactions are real and that's what the whole point of the video is.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 11:30 AM
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R/trp is awful compared to RP. I think the anger phase holds trp hostage Couldn't agree more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 11:21 AM
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Indeed. No one cares about violence against women at all. Violence against men is taken far more seriously. Uh huh. In other news the sky is green and hell is cold.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 11:10 AM
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Why are you so obsessed with making this a gendered issue? If a man called first and a woman grabbed the phone and said "sorry, that was my crazy friend who actually lives at X address, nothing is happening here" the dipshit operators probably would have believed that too. They need better training to send police around to check things are okay regardless of what the caller says, and they need to be able to trace calls instead of relying on being told where to go by the caller.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 11:07 AM
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usually due to brainwashing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 11:04 AM
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Why does any terrorist do anything? They believe their cause is more important than the lives of not only themselves but other innocent people as well, usually due to brainwashing.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 10:56 AM
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Try telling them to seek professional help for their obvious mental health issues and they ignore that too. You can't help anyone who doesn't want to be helped, let the incels wallow in their sad little corner while the the rest of us actually make an effort in life.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 10:30 AM
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Not true, I can also put my face between them.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 10:19 AM
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By exposing the nipple and having people become desensitized to the female body so to speak, advertisers would seek out less bikini babes because it's not exciting anymore. Then why campaign to have those ads taken down? Seems like their proliferation does their job for them without the need for a new movement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 10:17 AM
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Damn, that sounds almost... crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 10:16 AM
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The girls in that official picture look like they're in a Schoolboy Q video lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 10:09 AM
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Instead, we should take all cries for help (on 911 at least) seriously. Otherwise, what's the point? Better to respond to a false alarm 10 times than to not respond to a real one once. Exactly. That's the only real take any sensible person should get from this. It should be standard practice to send police over anyway especially if multiple calls are made from the same location. The system fucked up and it has nothing at all to do with gender politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 10:07 AM
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Much of this is good, but I will say that building up anecdotes to use in conversations happened pretty quickly for me once I did make friends so it was never a major issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 10:02 AM
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Tldr: he would become Bane. Upvoted just for this. But yeah steroids are not controlled drugs in most places so possession is not usually a crime.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 09:59 AM
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"You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life." -Winston Churchill
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 09:57 AM
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Most incels get extremely defensive and find excuses to ignore any advice you give them too. No sympathy for anyone with that attitude no matter who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 09:54 AM
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If I'm reading the article right, the voice only changed in one of those calls. In the rest it was either one or the other making the call. The operators need better training that tells them to send police around to check if everything's okay if multiple calls come in from one location, and furthermore it sounds like they were relying on being told what address to go to instead of tracing the call even when the call was made by a landlane which is fucking stupid. So there's a few systematic thin…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 09:51 AM
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It is a shame more people don't have this view and wallow in their sadness and envy instead because it's the easier option. Not just in dating but in literally everything in life that takes any effort.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 09:44 AM
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Wow, so some men actually think that claiming that they're feminists will make some girls get laid with them? Oh you ain't seen nothing yet. /r/whiteknighting
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 09:35 AM
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This is poe's law right here. I genuinely don't even know if this is serious or satire.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 09:34 AM
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The suffragettes were literally terrorists who planted bombs and committed arson, perhaps not the best example to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 09:06 AM
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Why are you turning this story into a gender issue? The operator was a gullible idiot, end of story.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 09:03 AM
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Hey now weed is the magical natural medicine! It cures fucking everything with no side effects bruh! No but seriously, this does absolutely apply to TRP. That's literally the "anger phase" summed up in one, and the big issue is that it's outright encouraged by the mods and ECs to the point of absurdity. This is seriously what makes TRP a laughing stock for many and why I refuse to identify with it. Many of the ideas are sound but the community is batshit insane so much of the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 09:00 AM
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If I want to feel good, and eating at McDonald's makes me feel good, then I will eat at McDonald's. That is logical. Following this line of reasoning, it's logical to be a meth addict as long as meth feels good, regardless of the long term damage it does to your health. That is utterly absurd. Do you understand why I find this ridiculous? It is not emotion, it is biological drive which is not emotion. Biological drives assert themselves via emotion. You feel hungry, you don't think hungry. Logic…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 08:54 AM
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Thanks man, you too :)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 08:47 AM
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Why not just not get married? A very good question, and one I have no answer to because I'm not entering that mess with the way the current laws are.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 08:44 AM
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If I ask to borrow your phone and you give it to me, that's different from me stealing your phone. It's not semantics.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 08:43 AM
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Alimony isn't for kids though. The feminist article you quoted said it is, that's what I was responding to. It's when one spouse gave up earning potential for the marriage. Tough shit. Ever heard of opportunity cost? Welcome to the real world. There's no alimony in most countries outside the US and for good reason. It's a ridiculous system.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 08:40 AM
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Yeah at uni my anxiety was the worst it's ever been because of deadlines and that fuelled by benzo addiction at the time. Fucking hated uni.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 08:39 AM
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I have been told by a reliable source that it is very common for doctors in the UK to fuck about with diazepam, codeine, and morphine. Can't say I blame them, easy access to drugs is the best perk of being a doctor.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 08:37 AM
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Well yeah anxiety is also a natural response to certain things, but that doesn't mean extreme anxiety is not a disorder. The reason it's diagnosed is because it can interfere with your life. And panic attacks are not fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 08:35 AM
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But his whole point is it shouldn't be.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/04/16 08:33 AM
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People want children Indeed, and this is a purely emotional motivation.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 11:19 AM
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Yep, even redpillschool admits this. They're personality traits, not personas.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 11:12 AM
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Logic is something that comes from the absence of emotion. It's not a normal human state generally speaking, that's why human decisions are often emotionally driven. If you look at the facts involved it is clear not having children is a logical choice. That doesn't mean someone who is emotionally driven to having kids shouldn't do it, only that they're doing so from a place of emotion, not logic. I honestly don't understand what about this is controversial unless you are the one who believes emo…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 11:07 AM
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Alimony should not exist. If the true concern is welfare of a child, the child support system already exists for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 11:00 AM
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Marriage is literally an agreement between two individuals. There is no reason the law needs to interfere with it. If I make a contract with you to sell you a phone for £500, I'd be pretty pissed off if a law said I could only charge £300. It's none of the law's business what agreements two private individuals make, if they are both happy with the arrangement it should be legal. This is exchange of property just like what occurs in a marriage, and similarly it should be up to the individuals inv…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 10:53 AM
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I hate to respond seriously to a Daily Mail link but yes the law in the UK has always been that prenups are useless. It's also always been true that UK divorce laws are biased towards women if kids are involved. However it is also true that UK law allows you to cohabitate with a woman without taking the risks of marriage. There is no common law marriage in the UK. If you just live with your girlfriend as far as the law is concerned you are flatmates. You owe her nothing if you split. So I would …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 10:44 AM
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You mean to tell me the extremely left leaning Guardian, the same publication that employs Jessica Valenti, hired a feminist to write about relationships? I for one am shocked. Shocked I tell you. Thankfully the outside world is not the Guardian though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 10:38 AM
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I know I've done CBT to deal with anxiety, I understand the coping methods and I practice them, but that doesn't stop the anxiety being there in the first place, it just helps me deal better when it hits me. I think it is unhelpful to think of these feelings as bad, though. Rather they are your feelings and are perfectly acceptable for you to have. To overcome them you first have to accept that they are real and that it is perfectly ok for you to feel how you feel. I do like this though. My mum …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 10:33 AM
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risks is emotional but so is everything Many human decisions are yes. Again you seem to be acting like I ever said emotion decisions were bad. I never said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 10:30 AM
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My depression is pretty mild these days, it's not all crying in bed shit, it's just the numbness kinda thing. I have hardly any emotional responses. It was much worse when I was younger and I used to not believe it'd improve so I'm glad it did. My anxiety has gotten worse over time though tbh. I had a lot of therapy focused specifically on the anxiety for that reason and I can handle it better but it still affects me the most out of anything else. There's a chicken and egg question with ADHD and…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:53 AM
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If the reward is significantly greater than the risk of course it makes sense. When I go outside there's a risk I could get mugged but it's not probable and the cost of never going outside would be greater than the benefit of avoiding the risk of getting mugged. But this whole argument is about how the risk for parenting is absolutely massive. I'm arguing that the risk of divorce and being miserable even if you don't divorce outweighs the singular benefit of having the desired emotional connecti…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:49 AM
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Unless you think the average guy can't get sex at all Ah that but is exactly what they think. 80/20 rule. It's one of the core TRP theories I will say is complete bullshit. It just makes omegas and betas feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:41 AM
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But you still need to earn a level of money to live. You cannot dispute that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:32 AM
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Have frequent panic attacks and then say with a straight face "anxiety isn't a disorder" lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:20 AM
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I think psychiatrists should be forced to take the stuff they prescribe to people. I'm just imagining some barred out psychiatrist right now, that'd be a fun session.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:17 AM
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I was gonna make a similar thread actually. I'm pretty sure most people on PPD have at least one mental illness. Certainly the number of people with MI is higher than average. I have depression, anxiety, ADHD.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 09:16 AM
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People desire more money than they need for essentials out of emotion, but the pursuit of an income is a necessity for survival. That's why many people work even if they hate their jobs.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 08:58 AM
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Lol this is the guy who attacked me for dismissing a study he linked to of 1400 people conducted in the 1970's. Apparently for not agreeing that's solid data, I "don't understand statistics." The lady doth protest too much, methinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 08:54 AM
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If you go out with a single mother you know she has someone else's kid you have to help raise. I wouldn't equate that to true cuckery where you think the kid is yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 08:48 AM
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Much of it is out of your control. Earning enough money is a big part of being able to successfully raise a family. Unless you have a family fortune you cannot guarantee you will always earn enough to give your family a decent life. You also cannot guarantee your wife/husband won't cheat on you in the future and lead to divorce. This is why I say it's a risk, you are betting on the actions of other people and you cannot control other people.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 08:41 AM
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This is essentially what a cognitive behavioral psychologist would have you do. Yep. Good post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 08:25 AM
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But they were a cause of stress.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 08:19 AM
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Did you just jump into another thread to attack me for disagreeing with you in a previous one? I must have really rustled your jimmies.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 08:16 AM
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Caloric intake is directly related (not correlated) to weight gain. The reasons behind families falling apart are not universal. Eating at McDonald's is not universally directly related to getting fat, I'll be fine! if one were to eat fast food regardless of the health risk, that is again, not illogical. Okay please do explain this to me. Exactly how is knowingly damaging your own health in a way that's easily avoidable logical?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 08:14 AM
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You're largely right (although I'd argue money is clearly very important for experiences - you can't travel around the world without it for example) but you can see my comment here for my response to this argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 08:10 AM
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It is true that decisions are not necessary entirely logical or entirely emotional, but I think you can boil motivations down to those categories. To give an example someone else used, eating a logical decision, but it is motivated by an emotional urge. So you're right a course of action can have both components, but I think a person's motivation for taking a certain action is much more simple. Do you agree that people are not motivated to have kids based on logic? Money has real intrinsic value…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 08:02 AM
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That's a silly analogy. We know for sure that only women get periods. You don't know for sure that your special snowflake marriage and kids will be superior to everyone else's.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 07:58 AM
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Sex is 100% an emotionally driven decision. I'd argue most big ones aren't. Working isn't really emotional, for example, it's a logical necessity unless you want a really shit life. Which job you pick may be emotional, but even then most people (if they're sensible) use mostly logic to choose their careers.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/16 07:55 AM
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I can't just give you a step by step guide. Not one that'd work. I don't know you enough. If this stuff really bothers you I recommend looking into CBT with a good therapist. Helped me out a fair bit with my anxiety. I still have depression and PD symptoms but you can't fix everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 11:38 PM
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You can make a decision purely on emotion that is also logical. This is true. But I don't think this is an example of one. Is eating a sandwich because you are hungry illogical? This is a good example of an emotional decision that is also logical. You are driven by emotion to want to eat, but the decision to eat is logical (up to a point) because you need it to survive. Is eating a bacon sandwich every day when you're hungry illogical even though there is data suggesting it's bad for your health…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 11:12 PM
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I am saying that a logical decision is one based on data while an emotional decision is one based on emotions. There's plenty of data that suggests, from all angles, having kids is a bad idea. People do it anyway because their emotions drive them to do so. I am not claiming that the emotional decision is inherently bad. I am merely saying it is not based on logic. Indeed, I said right from the start that the emotional drive to procreate is very obviously good for our species. You seem to be unde…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 10:30 PM
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Either 5000 is not good enough or 1400 is more than enough. Pick one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 10:27 PM
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You, like every single human being on the planet, have your own demons you have to deal with. Some people are better than others at hiding this, but it's true for everyone. Even someone who comes from the most privileged background in the world will have problems (have you seen the movie Richie Rich? kid couldn't make any friends) even though those will be dismissed by many people. I think we live in a society that makes people in the first world, especially if they're financially comfortable (n…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 10:12 PM
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My point is, if my data is invalid due to a small sample size, so is yours. Your data is even worse. I only linked that article to prove you can find a biased report to support any argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:56 PM
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You're the only sensible person engaging in this discussion with me, goddamn.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:53 PM
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A desire for an emotional bond is inherently an emotional motivation. The mistake you're making is thinking that logic = good, emotions = bad. That is not and has never been my argument. We as a society would not be where we are today without emotionally driven risk taking behaviour. Such behaviour can be very positive if it works out. It just has a chance of also going very wrong because that's what risk means. And ultimately no one takes a big risk unless they feel a strong emotional drive to …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:51 PM
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And it's okay to make decisions that are based at least partly on emotion. Of course it is. Nowhere did I say otherwise. It's funny everyone's getting mad at me as if I said having kids is a mortal sin. All I said it's a decision based on emotion. I placed no value judgement on emotion at all, in fact I even specified that those emotions are a good thing for the species. Yet people are still getting mad.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:48 PM
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I do now. Do you deny that raising those kids is stressful? Note that stressful does not mean not fulfilling.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:45 PM
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Your article cited a poll of only 1,400 parents which was conducted in the 1970's. Mega kek.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:44 PM
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40% would make it logical to have kids if you want them since it's always logical to go with the higher probability. It's a 40% chance of failure + an almost certainty of being miserable even if you do succeed. That right there is an illogical decision. You do have to explain why. At least why someone is an idiot for not caring about money beyond essentials. Kids cost a lot of money to raise. If you want to raise a healthy one you need a lot of money. If you want to have more than one, which mos…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:43 PM
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Here look I can cherrypick biased articles too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:39 PM
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That's a very valid criticism of the research. You're definitely right, sample bias is important to consider.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:34 PM
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The thing is, everyone is prone to the bias of "oh yeah, those people over there did X behaviour and it worked out badly, but I couldn't possibly make that same mistake because I'm special." You can influence factors that increase your possibility of success but ultimately much of it is out of your control. You have a good job to support the family, but maybe 5-10 years down the line it becomes redundant. You have a solid relationship now, but maybe 5-10 years down the line you catch your husban…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:31 PM
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The problem is that parenthood by its very nature is extremely stressful. Even if you do find it fulfilling, that doesn't stop the simple fact that it's very stressful.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:23 PM
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Do you have sex? Of course you do. The risk of STD, rape accusation etc are obviously worth it to you. I assess those risks as low enough to not be a concern. I do not have casual sex, I only have sex with partners. This lowers the risks of both STDs and false rape accusations right away. It also allows me to evaluate my sexual partners, which you cannot do before a ONS with a random slut. I will not fuck a girl if she even says she wants kids. I am very aware of the risk assessments required. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:23 PM
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Yeah the internet was warped "cuck" into an all-purpose insult, it's pretty much become the right wing version of calling someone a misogynist at this point. The research uses the actual definition, which is unknowingly raising kids that are not yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:10 PM
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Here's the actual paper which will answer your questions. The study mostly looks at historical data but interestingly also seems to agree that changing trends may influence increases in the present and future: Indeed, given that female adultery is common, occurring in an estimated 5–27% for people younger than 30 years old, the fear of fathers being cuckolded into raising someone else's child may well be justified Although 5-27% is a very big range to work with.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:08 PM
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Correct. But if the average is having problems, odds are you will have problems. You are not a special snowflake. This is not to say you shouldn't ever do it, but understand you are absolutely taking a big risk, and assess if the perceived benefits are worth it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 09:04 PM
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based on genetic testing and ancestor research
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 08:58 PM
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If the divorce rate is 40% and multiple studies confirm that having kids puts strain on your marriage it is a logical decision for everyone, not just me. If you're having kids but don't care about money you're an idiot. I shouldn't have to explain why, this is obvious. People can live their lives however they want. But don't make an emotional decision then claim it's logical. Going by your argument, I could say buying a castle is "logical" because it'd make me happy. Oh, forget that the maintena…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 08:56 PM
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Those people are often hamstering. How many times have you seen someone saying they'll have kids so they can look after them in their old age? How likely do you think that'll actually be to happen in the real world? But yes it is my opinion. However my opinion is based on logic over emotion. I am looking at studies and statistics. Undoubtedly that is more logical than doing something because you think it might feel good. That is not really debatable.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 08:49 PM
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I've presented a very logical argument and your only counter argument basically boils down to "feeeels." You're not actually disagreeing with me there. Also lol at not procreating being selfish. Procreation is perhaps one of the most selfish acts a person can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 08:45 PM
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And yet if you ask a lot of people who have kids, they would die for them. Indeed, people usually develop strong emotional attachments to their kids and that's the emotional motivation for having them in the first place. Still a massive risk that can cause stress in other parts of your life regardless, however. I think if you look at it from a purely logical angle, the risk is not worth it in the slightest. But hey, my attitude is live and let live, I don't care what others do. I'm just explaini…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 08:41 PM
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actual natural alphas mateguard because of respect and ownership, not out of fear. These are the words I was looking for. Sums it up perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 08:33 PM
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It shows results of four different studies all show that happiness in a marriage decreases when you have kids and only goes back up when the kids leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 08:31 PM
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What high reward? Check this graph. Kids will put a big strain on your relationship no matter who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 08:15 PM
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I described it below already but sure. You are committing to spending £250,000 and 18+ years of your life per kid. Most people have two kids and leave a few years between each one, so that racks it up to £500,000 and over 20 years of your life. What do you get in return? If you're lucky, good feels. Assuming you don't get divorced and lose custody of them as a guy, or get divorced and end up having take care of them on your own as a woman. Which has an over 40% chance of happening in most Wester…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 07:53 PM
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Again I'm speaking from a logical POV. There's also many more ways to get good feels that don't involve such a massive risk and commitment. Exercise and eating well make you feel good and won't cost you £250,000. Save your money and buy a Lambo is my view. But you do you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 07:34 PM
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Adding to what Atlas said, hang out with hippies who do acid and shrooms, they love weird fuckers. My social circle is psychedelic and other drug users and escorts lol. Very abnormal crowd but they like me a lot because I come off all eccentric. I fit in perfectly with other weirdos.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 07:21 PM
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Yeah all you gotta do is make sure you date girls shorter than you and there are plenty of those. Not a big deal at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 07:17 PM
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Beat me to it haha. /u/BiggerDthanYou if you seriously believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 07:14 PM
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If you have properly protected consensual sex, odds are there will be no downsides to that action at all. Same with going to the movies, worst that'll happen is you'll waste two hours and £15 on a shitty film, compared to 18 years and £250,000 on a kid. As OP clearly demonstrates, there are many reasons not to have kids, and if you rack it up logically, it's a bad decision. However, in this case I'm not saying the feels are necessarily bad because they're needed to ensure people keep reproducing…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 07:13 PM
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Lol. Point is I am not saying feels in this case are a bad thing. They're biologically necessary. I'm defending da feelz even though I don't get them myself.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 07:11 PM
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Yes. The law should be there to make sure people play nicely with each other. It should begin and end there. Morality is undoubtedly separate from the law. Smoking weed is illegal but how is it immoral? Owning a company that sells lethal weapons is completely legal. But there are many people who'd present a solid case for that being immoral. Morality is ultimately subjective. The law isn't. The law is whatever the government determines it to be. And the politicians behind that government are the…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 07:10 PM
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If that's caused by something you cannot treat, you're at a disadvantage no matter what.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 07:07 PM
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From a logical point of view, having kids is always a bad choice. People have kids anyway because of their feeeeelz. If those feels didn't over-ride logic, we wouldn't be here. I'm CF myself, btw, so I'm not hating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 02:43 PM
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If you look at least average and you are high functioning enough to learn better social skills you can do fine, it'll just take more effort than for normies. I have anxiety, depression, and all kinds of crap going on but I still do fine. I'm the same height as you too. But I had to make more effort mentally to sort myself out before I could be successful in the SMV or RMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 02:41 PM
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Yeah that's why I made the distinction. I think being scared of her talking to any other guy in case she cheats is beta and I'd call that needy behaviour, not actually protective.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 02:38 PM
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Took the words right out of my mouth <3
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 12:42 PM
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Sounds pretty standard for Britain. Chavs get going early.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 12:05 PM
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It depends on the execution. Being all needy is beta, but being protective is alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 12:01 PM
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Something should only be made illegal if it directly harms others. Murder should be illegal. Putting drugs in your own body shouldn't. I believe it's a big mistake for the government to try and regulate our private lives and it should stay the fuck away from what people do behind closed doors as long as it harms no one else.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/16 11:56 AM
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Incels are very outwardly self-loathing and largely make no effort for self-improvement. Note that incels are not the same as red pillers.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 11:10 PM
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Oh yeah individual RPers are moralising too much and that's a big problem in TRP right now. It's a direct result of the mods and ECs actively encouraging the anger phase and it's pathetic. That's why "no moralfagging" is rule 1 on /r/TRPcore. But I'd still say the core ideas of TRP remain amoral. Things like DT are openly spoken about regardless of moral reservations. Individual red pillers on the other hand are humans. They get overemotional like all the other humans.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:36 PM
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Yeah definitely. They've gone from being alternative to mainstream. And due to their permanent nature they'll be mainstream for a whole generation. Will be interesting to see what effect that has on the next generation actually. Will kids today find tattoos uncool because their parents have them? That'll be funny, would make a good comedy sketch. TRP's hate of them seems to be based on more emotional grounds than that, they talk about tattoos being associated with "thugs" for guys and "sluts" fo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:33 PM
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I think that's only your opinion of them, not their own self-image. Have you seen the way these people speak on here? They absolutely make it either identity. Frankly it's pathetic. Men that don't get sex and intimacy, don't get emotional support. Like all people, they need it. People hate them though Your mistake is thinking I hate them for being alone instead of hating them for being pathetic whiners who make no effort to improve themselves. If they make an effort to improve themselves I have …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:30 PM
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Doesn't seem to hold you back from being a prime minister either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:27 PM
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Tattoos are just what's cool right now. No one has an obligation to like them but I will say that TRP's outright hate of them does just further the stereotype they're socially inept nerds. Anyway, I disagree with RP's stance on this as you can tell. Girls with tattoos are hot, tattoos on guys are cool. This is assuming they're good tattoos of course. I plan to get a tattoo or two in the near future, just thinking it over a bit more first tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:09 PM
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You're one of the sensible ones for sure, but it's undeniable that a lot of the BP criticisms are purely emotional and based on a sense of morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:05 PM
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By accepting the label you are accepting a negative self-image. Same goes for incels. My point is, support groups for lonely people are already a thing without making up new labels. The only reason you'd make up a new label is to act like a special snowflake on Tumblr. You're using that label as an identity and to play the victim. Why are some acceptable and others not? They can call themselves whatever they like but by the same token I am free to express my opinion of it. Just like how if you w…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:03 PM
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This is very true.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 04:18 PM
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"No, I don't hate men. I just think we need to teach them not to rape women." I like this game.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 03:04 PM
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Oh yeah if you can get the good ones on discount you're sorted.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 02:42 PM
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/r/foreveralone already offers that without adopting a weird label.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 02:42 PM
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And what solution is obtained from calling yourself an incel and complaining on Reddit?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 01:55 PM
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Going by your own link, values are all about what's important and what's useful. This is a very utilitarian measurement and as you've pointed out it's exactly the kind of thing TRP loves. Morals are more emotionally driven measurements of "right" and "wrong" which, unfortunately, I have seen from individuals in TRP before ("single mothers are scum") but we seem to agree that the core RP ideas aren't really centred around moral judgements. Ethics are by their very definition a code that is agreed…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 12:47 PM
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Yep. I think OPs rarely make such posts to actually have their views changed, but the readers and commenters can get interesting discussion and debate out of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 11:58 AM
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Oh yeah I agree the whole idea of "objectification" being bad is stupid right from the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 11:56 AM
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There are definitely shared values in TRP but that's different from a code of ethics or morality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 11:47 AM
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That's a good idea wrt x-posting the quality TRP posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 11:21 AM
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Victorian era, buy a shitload of pure morphine, cocaine, and cannabis over the counter, do whatever shit job to pay for it, get high as fuck daily until I die of TB. Maybe chill and get high with Sherlock Holmes as well. Yes he's fictional but so's this scenario. Nihilism ftw.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 11:15 AM
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Being an emotionally unstable man makes it very easy to attract emotionally unstable women. Like attracts like, it's simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 11:04 AM
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T-shirt £5, jeans £20. Looks exactly the same. Only expensive bit is the shoes, it's hard to skimp there without getting shit quality. Gotta spend at least £80.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:56 AM
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Ha, I dress exactly like this (dark jeans and white t-shirt) all the fucking time and indeed it seems to be working fine for me. It'll be cooler when I get tattoos tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:55 AM
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Because as Atlas keeps saying they're Reddit nerds who don't do enough drugs.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:51 AM
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Shit, better get the Kickstarter going.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:37 AM
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This. It's weird how often bloops don't get this. RP's view is that morals are subjective so you should apply your own moral compass to what you read. BP cannot understand the concept of morality not being collectivist.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:36 AM
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If you do have good content to contribute there please do post it. As you can see it really does need it. Unfortunately, though, the sensationalist attitude of TRP simply attracts more attention, while more sensible discussion of core concepts is simply more of a niche. I still think there is potential for TRPcore to go somewhere even though it'll never be as big as the main sub, but we need more people like you posting there first.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:33 AM
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Also, it seems like you have a legitimately fun personality. Exclaiming that people should "love you for who you are" is a waste of time because who you are is already awesome and lovable. Aww. This made my day. That line is only used by people who are insecure about the legitimacy of their actual lovability AKA they know they suck but don't want to admit it or do anything about it. It could also be used by a guy who is sick of only being used for his money or something though. Maybe that guy do…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:30 AM
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Right but you're just agreeing with me here. It's not just about sex, it's also about being lonely.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:27 AM
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It depends who they're talking to. You can't go up to a girl you wanna bang and talk about being lonely but you can talk to your friends or family about it and get sympathy. You can't do that if you give yourself weird made up internet labels though.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 09:42 AM
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Yep, I spent much of my teenage years on Tumblr and this has always been the case with that crowd.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 11:09 AM
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I think this sentiment is what angers a lot of RPers though, because no such expectation is placed on women. All they have to do is look good. Although I disagree with it in the first place regardless. My girlfriend loves me not for what I do for her but for my personality, being around me makes her happy. How do I know she's telling the truth? Well I can tell you I definitely don't have any money for her to go after so I don't see why she'd lie.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 10:59 AM
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researchers found a number of factors that significantly influenced whether a person was more likely to attempt suicide: being a person of color, experiencing poverty, being unemployed, achieving less education, being out or more easily perceived as transgender, experiencing housing discrimination or especially homelessness, experiencing harassment or especially physical or sexual assault, being rejected by family, or facing discrimination in health care. Right but this, if anything, proves my p…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 10:52 AM
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But again people are bullied for all kinds of shit that do not have anywhere near the same suicide rates attached. I don't disagree bullying is a part of it, but it's not the main reason and certainly not the only reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 10:16 AM
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I'm not sure this is conclusive evidence it's nature, but observing gay men certainly proves it's not just about "oppressing the womynz" as the feminists would have you believe. Male sexuality is just like that no matter who it's aimed it. However, the nature/nurture debate is still up in the air here. My personal belief is that it is nature and our nature influences the media in the first place, but you'll be hard pressed to present conclusive evidence that 100% proves that view.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 10:15 AM
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Trannies have a high suicide rate because most people are shitty You think it's purely down to external factors? I'm not hating on trans here but I'm pretty sure the high suicide rate is linked at least in part to the condition itself. People are made fun of for a lot of things but you don't see a super high suicide rate for obesity, for example. Gender dysphoria must take a massive mental toll on a person and that isn't exactly irrelevant to suicide rates.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 10:08 AM
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Not at all, but they make money and are therefore more attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 08:53 AM
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It depends how attractive the cheeky chick is. If she's obese and spotty like the male nerd stereotype then yeah, not gonna get much attention. But if she's average looking I'd go for her over the model 100%. Models have terrible personalities and I'd actually have something in common with the nerd.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 08:47 AM
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I stated my argument and you responded childishly so I can do nothing but respond in kind. There's nothing of substance to discuss from you. You're just a pathetic fat loser who cries on the internet because he can't get laid. I'd feel sorry for you if you weren't do damn annoying.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 08:41 AM
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I use green for users I like and maroon for shitposters.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 08:38 AM
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I'm not blue but I'll be using this to block blatant shitposters (naming them here would break rules but there are bloops on PPD who come under this description and we all know it) and the whiny incels.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 08:36 AM
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Lol nice one, sorry it took so long to reply I was busy actually having sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 08:30 AM
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Lol this whiny autistic attitude is why you're a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 02:22 PM
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I'm not interested in arguing pointless semantics, I'm just explaining why the idea is attractive to some people.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 12:07 AM
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I don't know where the fuck you got that from lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/16 12:05 AM
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Meh, looking back I don't consider it a massive deal because that girl was emotionally immature herself anyway. It's barely even a big age gap, one of my ex's dumped me for a 50 year old when she was 17 - now that's fucking weird. The only reason the 21 year old even sticks out to me is the ridiculously blatant double standard I experienced. I personally don't think the gender of the older party should matter at all. If you're gonna be against it stick to your guns in both situations. Anyone who…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 11:46 PM
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Literally all she said is an average woman is more likely to settle... that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 11:39 PM
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Oh yeah my dad was and still is way better at talking about emotions. My mum just can't do it 90% of the time. You can tell she tries but she just can't handle emotions. That rubbed off on me and I'm a very emotionally disconnected person. I have emotions but most are very shallow. So in many ways my mum is way more masculine than my dad. I have big respect for my mum though, she made a very successful career for herself.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 11:23 PM
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Hey if you want personal stories, the one I find most interesting is how people thought I was weird at 18 for dating a 16 year old girl, a mere 2 year age gap, but when I was 16 and dating a 21 year old girl everyone just made jokes about me being a toy boy and that wasn't looked down on at all. Massive double standards going on fam. Should probably note the age of consent is 16 here though so neither situation was illegal.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 11:18 PM
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the stigma i'm talking about is wider. Still an anecdote. go up to a girl on a night out and say you visited a prostitute a few nights ago and see how well that goes down Will try it this weekend just for you mate. better yet mention it casually to a family member My family straight up know I'm involved with escorts and the BDSM scene, doubt they'd be shocked.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 10:06 PM
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Same for men honestly. RPers always don their rose tinted glasses for this stuff.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 09:43 PM
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What the actual fuck. How is it all enjoyable to fuck someone who doesn't want it unless you're literally a rapist? The quoted post answers your question: And now that you have the power, it feels good. It's power play. Like most sexual kinks.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 07:46 PM
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TIL: human beings are often hateful. Well fuck me, I'd never have guessed.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 07:20 PM
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And if that doesn't tip people off that this isn't exactly a serious sub, I got a bridge to sell ya. Also don't forget /r/fuckfeminists!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 07:19 PM
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I lost my virginity to a 10 and I'm like 6, maybe 7 if you're being really generous. Just fucking go for it, you ain't got shit to lose but much to gain.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 07:16 PM
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The bar for sociopathy is set pretty low on Reddit these days.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 07:01 PM
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Thus far most of it is has been avoiding negative emotions. For example I've had to leave people I've known for years and felt literally nothing. I've broken up in relationships and again felt literally nothing. I see others being depressed for ages over that bullshit. Not me. I was taught how to manipulate people pretty much all my life, I feel nothing about that either. I'm currently going in a new direction with my life by starting a business and I have no doubt a lack of emotion will help th…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 06:58 PM
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What do you mean? It's just how I live my life because it's how my brain is wired, it's not learned behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 04:07 PM
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Don't most states in the US have Romeo and Juliet laws? I thought they did. Anyway all I get from this story is teenagers are dumb, what else is new?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 02:09 PM
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That honestly sounds terrible to me. An overload of emotion just makes you lean to BPD behaviour. In the world we live in, lack of empathy is a strength, you just need to be smart about it. Cry crocodile tears when you need to and you can go far.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 02:05 PM
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Not everyone wanted children in the past either, society just made them do it anyway and those people ended up being shit parents, funnily enough, because they never wanted to be in that position in the first place. There have always been people who never wanted kids, we're just now in an age where we're not being forced to have them anyway. This goes for men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 02:01 PM
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You're getting ridiculously defensive over basically nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 12:58 PM
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When it comes to application it's about having confidence in the moment though. I don't think anything but experience can teach you confidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 12:24 PM
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He's an idiot for not faking empathy. It's easy to act like you know you're expected to. That's what Machiavellianism is largely about - superficial charm to get people playing to the beat of your drum. I'm not gonna be super edgy and call myself a psychopath but I have only very shallow emotional responses no matter what label you put on that. I learnt very early you need to pretend to care about shit others do if you want those people to keep trusting and liking you.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 12:22 PM
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I don't think it can be taught, it's something you learn by experience really. And this is exactly the kind of experience that teaches you all about it. I had a girl try to sexually assault me at uni even though I told her very clearly multiple times I was not interested and told her to go away. Ultimately I pushed her out my room and locked the door. Back then I was still a pretty socially awkward guy, but shit like that teaches you toughen up.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 12:17 PM
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After the second time, where presumably you made it clear you really didn't want it, I'd have just moved seats and told him outright to leave me alone completely. If he tried anything again I'd have walked right the fuck out of there, if I was feeling really pissed I'd tell security what he did. But instead she just gave up and let him do it. Don't get me wrong, as I said to someone else in another reply, I do not defend the guy's actions here, but as a human with autonomy it is your responsibil…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 12:03 PM
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Give me examples please.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 11:54 AM
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probably would commit suicide if I had kids. Me too, fucking seriously. The thought terrifies me. I'd rather blow my brains out than deal with that bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 11:52 AM
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Drinking on SSRIs is pretty much fine. Drinking on benzos will fuuuuck you up tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 11:40 AM
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This is why I take it as a compliment when I get called a psychopath. Like, is that meant to be a bad thing?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 11:29 AM
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Yeah it's very clear most of /r/childfree is women. And DINK ftw!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 11:05 AM
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Let's be honest here, the reason the machine keeps moving is because most people are risk adverse. You get a lot of people talking in the abstract about how they'd love to hypothetically have lots of money and they'll probably play the lottery too. But how many of those people have the drive and the balls to actually put a plan into action? People who, instead of going to their crappy jobs day in day out fantasising about being rich, actually make real life steps towards achieving that goal? Har…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 11:02 AM
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Try telling Trump supporters that, lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 10:56 AM
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Don't worry bby I got your reference.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 10:40 AM
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https://xkcd.com/747/
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 10:33 AM
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I'm not defending what the guy in the OP did, to be clear, all I'm saying is the point about self-responsibility is a solid one. You have to be assertive and enforce your boundaries or people will exploit and walk all over you in this world. That's true for males or females.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 10:25 AM
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Incels do make it their identity. The fact you're getting so emotional over a silly internet label is just proving my point.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 10:09 AM
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Point out anything i've said that's incorrect You report a stigma in your social circle, I reported none in mine. Both are anecdotes, neither is any more "factual" than the other. I understand this at the same time there are restrictions to do with soliciting it in public which is illegal There's also restrictions on alcohol, what point you even making? It's still legal. also it's completely illegal in Northern Ireland. Makes sense, it's a more religious culture up there, and not unlike the US t…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 09:10 AM
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I wanna nominate this for best PPD post 2016.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 08:50 AM
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I'd think in this case you should prefix as your opinion and not present it as fact. Same to you. It's legal in some senses It's completely legal. Escorts can charge you for "their time" and what goes on in that time is your business. There is no law in the UK which makes this illegal for either the escort or the john. Period. The only thing that is illegal in the UK is being a pimp. But this is obviously a good thing because it helps prevent exploitation and encourages things to stay above boar…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 08:41 AM
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But ultimately it's a clash over moderation regardless. All I'm saying is, the new sub is not going to drop the captain/first mate stuff because it's just an easy way to explain traditional dynamics, not some evil muh-soggy-knee conspiracy planted by TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 08:34 AM
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His wording is harsh but he is right that you should stood up for yourself more.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 08:29 AM
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EVERYONE I DISAGREE WITH ON THE INTERNET IS LITERALLY A PSYCHOPATH Almost got bingo today and I've only just logged on.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 08:28 AM
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Those usually don't criminalise teens for fucking other teens though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 08:24 AM
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Well it was a good experience in that she was way out of my fucking league looks-wise. But the actual sex itself was awkward and not really that fun compared to what I've done since because neither of us had any idea what we were actually doing. If you're talking about emotional connection, fuck no, we broke up a few months later so she could date a 50 year old.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 07:47 AM
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Lol no it's not, you can get RPWives will continue to use the same captain/first mate lingo the original sub did. It split over mod drama, I've spoken with those involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 07:44 AM
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Basically yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 07:43 AM
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I'm just asking a simple question. Why are you focusing on shaping your identity after the fact you're not getting any when literally every guy who identifies as "incel" admits it's more about emotional intimacy then a simple sexual release? Makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 07:42 AM
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Is that your learned opinion backed up by experience and fact? Yep. I can talk to my friends (male or female) about shagging prozzies all day and it's just a fun convo. We swap stories. Who cares? Also, if you're in the UK, you do realise escorts are legal right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/16 07:41 AM
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Right, but that's different from your concious decisions.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 10:57 PM
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I don't see why you think fucking a prozzie is worse than doing drugs. Legally I'd say they're on the same level. That's why I directly compare them. Same difference. The stigma is mostly in your head honestly, no one cares. It's a cool story at best and an undramatic sidenote at worst.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 10:56 PM
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Well you don't go posting this stuff all over the internet unless you want to relate to people and have them relate to you. It's a way of getting validation. If you didn't care about having your struggle validated you wouldn't talk about it. I think people would be more likely to show empathy if you spoke in terms that are universally understood. Everyone knows that loneliness is depressing. It's relatable for most people, because most have been lonely at some point in their lives. But just comp…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 10:49 PM
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The biological instinct to have sex is indeed there because of mating, but if that literally meant wanting sex was always about making babies then condoms wouldn't exist for a start. Humans have thoughts above their instinct and many of those humans have the thought and feeling of not desiring procreation, even if they have a biological instinct for it. I mean humans are also violent to protect their tribes, that's also a biological instinct. But you don't see people killing each other every day…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 10:42 PM
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Don't see how that suggests male supremacy. All it suggests is that they want their partners to be in control. That's not the same as "all men are better than all women."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 10:39 PM
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I mean, it definitely won't make you attractive, but it's a lot more relatable than the whole incel malarkey.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 10:38 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/X3qiWLw.png
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 10:37 PM
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No i'm pointing out there are real penalties here. Very unlikely ones. No it isn't as this isn't about me, others though might be concerned. Ah yes. Just asking for a friend. To an extent all peoples behaviour is otherwise there'd be rape and murder on the streets. People don't murder because there is a very real chance they will receive a serious punishment for it. Comparing that to a minor crime is disingenuous. You're trying to trap me here but as I pointed out caring about what is and isn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 10:32 PM
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I think a lot of men at TRP really just want a happy, loving relationship with a woman, but see the idea of women being submissive as a shortcut to that, or a botch fix to their problem with "insurance" against them cheating. I actually agree. I don't get much feeling that TRP advocates submissive women because they enjoy it, especially since in reality such a dynamic comes with a lot of responsibility. They talk about about how things should be as if they're striving to righteousness. And for m…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 10:17 PM
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there is no social stigma So you are just using the law as an excuse. Your real concern is with straying from the social norms. But this is just allowing your behaviour to be dictated by the opinions of others. Is that alpha behaviour? if you do get caught unlike weed there will be no verbal warning and sent in your way. I don't think it's likely police will bother breaking down doors to arrest johns. Do you? The customers are not who they are after. They're after the criminals running the opera…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:57 PM
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If it's so easy to find you will have no trouble linking me.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:50 PM
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Why is breaking the law complicated? I don't know about you, but if someone asks me if something is illegal, what I respond with is if they'll actually get done for it. Someone asks me if smoking weed is illegal. I say just be subtle and don't carry large amounts, you'll be fine. Absolute worst you'll get is a warning. Someone asks me if fucking a prozzie is illegal. I say just be subtle, no one really gives a shit about a random john, you'll probably be fine. It's simple risk assessment. Just b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:35 PM
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Why do you think all women who enjoy sex want kids? Because I mean /r/childfree is like 90% women for a start.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:29 PM
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Everyone seeks validation. Humans are social animals. This is also part of what makes it so difficult for many to deviate from social norms, like those who are put off of fucking prozzies due to the stigma. Thing is, it's up to the individual to realise they cannot rely on others for their happiness and sometimes they need to have the balls to put their interests first, even if it does mean being looked down on by some.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:29 PM
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Ah cool. Yeah it is a weird thing. Ironically I think they'd get more sympathy if they just went with the loneliness angle, it's more human and relatable. Instead they make up a term for not getting laid and focus 100% on that which just isolates them further from people outside their own group. If they're after acceptance and the ability to speak about their problems, which is what they claim, they really need to drop the "incel" crap.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:25 PM
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I mean there might have been, I only read the first one.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:23 PM
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Glad we've come to an amicable agreement :)
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:23 PM
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Just break the law. Jeez. If you're worried about being robbed, only bring the cash you need for payment and nothing else. If you're worried about police you really don't need to be, they don't spend a great deal of resources chasing down johns or even the prozzies themselves really, they go after those higher up in the chain.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:21 PM
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I know multiple escorts and they all enjoy their jobs especially considering they average £300 an hour on a bad day. One of them used to work in a supermarket and she certainly finds getting paid for sex to be much more fun and less demeaning lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:18 PM
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Yeah but they do care about emotional validation really, they just focus on sex to be more masculine. I don't think they like framing it as loneliness because it makes them feel weak. Whereas a simple desire for sex is more manly. Grrrr.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:15 PM
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So 50SOG just followed Cosmo advice?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:13 PM
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I thought thinking like that is something for angry bitter losers who can't get any. Only if they're men, duh.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:12 PM
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It's an old meme referencing a John Green film.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 08:59 PM
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This comment literally makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 08:58 PM
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Well the shitlord comment isn't useful lol. It's not an insult to you, you're in my good books. It's just a joke :) But believing that not all women are mentally ill is logically necessary for this to be a meaningful question. It can't be useless if it's logically necessary. The reason I used the word "useless" wrt to the mental illness thing is because I believe that in my particular situation there is nothing I can do. I am and will always be mentally ill and therefore I will always naturally …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 08:55 PM
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It is useless in terms of how I should deal with my current situation yes. If I tell you "most of the women I've been with are mentally ill" and you were to respond with "actually most women are not mentally ill, shitlord" I'd consider that a useless non-response. What needs to be asked is "okay, why are you attracting mentally ill women?" That's a useful road to go down. Simply hammering into everyone's heads that statistics are different from their experiences is useless.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 07:01 PM
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Same is true for fathers from what I've seen though. SAHD: "Fucking pussy, you should be the one supporting the family. Guess we know who wears the pants in this relationship." Working dad with SAHM: "Why are you so old fashioned? Do you not let your wife work? That's abusive.*" Both parents working: "But who's looking after the kids? You just give them to someone else? You're bad parents!" I think it's less a woman problem and more a parent problem. Everyone thinks they can parent better than o…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 06:28 PM
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Hell, even psychiatrists cannot agree on how to interpret self-reported data like that, and those fuckers went to medical school for almost a decade and get paid very well for what they do. Go tell one psychiatrist a set of symptoms, tell the same symptoms to another, and watch as you get two different diagnoses. I've had the same condition diagnosed as four different things!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 06:11 PM
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I think it's about more than simply the individual making bad decisions, it's about their circumstances as a whole. That's why I used the metaphor I did. For some people it could be as simple as they hang around in a bad social group full of shitty people and need to find new friends. This would be equivalent to a business expanding into a new industry if their current one is in decline - like how newspapers are increasingly adopting the clickbait blog business model. Anyway, there is no point g…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 05:51 PM
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Correct. That's literally what I'm saying. It is blatantly untrue that all women are mentally ill. However, if you're an individual who often finds himself with mentally ill women, it is still very useful to know how to deal with them. It doesn't matter if they don't make up the majority of the planet's population or not, it only matters that they make up the majority of the women you meet. The second would lead to, "What am I doing to attract mentally ill women?" Indeed and again, this is what …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 05:33 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/iIQtrkX.png
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:43 PM
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QW, I'm not being funny but half your posts are about using DT yourself to control men. You can't complain about men using DT (calling it abuse even) while bragging about using it yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:34 PM
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Confirmation bias is real on both sides. But it's usually TBP trying to disprove the generalisations. I'm just saying generalisations don't need to apply to the entire population to be useful, they just need to apply to the social circle of the individual applying them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:30 PM
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Those who actually understand RP theory know that AWALT is a heuristic. But you are definitely right that there are many who take it too literally, maybe due to bad understanding of nuance or maybe out of simple anger, and indeed they go the opposite direction to how they're meant to and make AWALT a self-fulfilling prophecy. In reality, the way you should use it is have a mental list of things she might do, either cross them out or tick them depending on if she does them or not. It's meant to b…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 04:07 PM
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But a female switch is best suited with a male switch assuming a mono relationship is the goal. It's unlikely a female switch will be fulfilled entirely by a male sub. So it's still the case that submissive men are around but have a hard time finding partners. I feel sorry for 'em.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 01:43 PM
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Point me to where either RPW sub says "men are superior."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 01:40 PM
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But... the names are the same... so they must be identical... Today I tried to use my washing machine to check Facebook instead of my phone because they're both made by Samsung. I don't understand why it didn't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 10:24 AM
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Your new flair is excellent.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 10:21 AM
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Congratulations, you are now genderfluid! Put it on your Tumblr and collect your special snowflake points at the door. Double for not being a male.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 10:13 AM
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how do transgender people feels they are the wrong gender? They can never give a straightforward answer to this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 10:10 AM
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There we go then, so you're against traditional lifestyle as an idea, not just the "red pill" name.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:56 AM
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Interesting because from what I've seen it's the dommes who are rare. Plenty of submissive men, very few dominant women. There's some switches but that's it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:21 AM
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OP's life. I agree with the point this post is making though, in all seriousness.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 09:06 AM
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Happiness is a temporary emotion. What most people want is to feel content all the time. This requires a lot of mental discipline. People are wired to strive for more.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 08:47 AM
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Nonsense, there is plenty of criticism from the feminist camp about the actual contents of RPW. They get called traitors for "throwing away their freedom" or mocked for "making themselves slaves to men."
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 08:45 AM
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Taking drugs is easier than starting up your own cult. I'm using drugs as an example because it's very quick and easy and people like fast results especially if they're looking for an online guide. Personally I would advise anyone wanting to live an interesting life to take more risks aimed at whatever they want to achieve. If you think doing XYZ will make you happier and you have a chance of succeeding, fucking do it. That is the ultimate advice for happiness in my own opinion. But it's also a …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 12:36 AM
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I grew up in a household where my mum made all the money and my dad worked part time and stayed at home. Eventually I realised this is the opposite of what's normal, traditional, whatever. At the same time, the "just be yourself" message from wider society clashed with my mum's more realistic advice of "you have to change yourself to be successful in life." As an idealistic teen I believed the former but as I grew into an adult I embraced the latter. I think both of those things played a part. G…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 12:21 AM
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It depends why you aren't doing drugs or fucking prozzies. If it's just not something you like then whatever, although you won't be as interesting. If you're scared of it because you don't want to break the law you have no business calling yourself alpha. It's that attitude I'm attacking, drugs and prozzies are just examples. I could just have easily have said TRP should promote entrepreneurialism instead of getting a degree and working in a boring corporate job. The real point is they discourag…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/16 12:07 AM
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And yet you can easily see identical sentiment right here on PPD when bloops criticise RPW.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 11:42 PM
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What this thread tells you is it only matters if the woman wants kids. Just find one that doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 11:13 PM
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Doesn't this explain every single human on the planet, perhaps except for the truly dedicated monks and Buddhists?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 11:11 PM
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many of the more successful dark triads are also great at entertaining people Yep. If you can entertain people you're half way there. while the redpill seems more concerned with comparing statistics and planning conversation trees. I kind of half agree with this. TRP does advocate picking up interesting hobbies to facilitate socialising. This is good advice. However, you're right that they do not put enough emphasis on being genuinely fun. I think this is simply because it's very difficult to te…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 11:08 PM
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TIL something new about US politics, thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 10:50 PM
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>linking the Daily Mail
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 10:48 PM
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Is there a difference in US politics? There isn't in the UK. But yeah we are in agreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 10:46 PM
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Indeed it depends on how you define elite. But when people talk about having drive to become successful I tend to think in a business context, which I noted in my comment. If you instead talk about a political context as you seem to then I agree with you. A very particular set of skills (Liam Neeson voice optional) is required to succeed in politics, past a simple drive, and most people do not have it. I guess this also highlights that what counts as success is very subjective. I'd hate to be a …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 10:43 PM
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Same here. We can throw around studies all day long and it makes for interesting reading, but the subject matter here is very personal and ultimately people will make their judgements based on personal experience rather than a research paper someone linked on a forum. I don't think this is necessarily as illogical as it seems either. Sample bias is a real thing to consider wrt psychological studies, especially surveys. The research participants in XYZ study might be completely different to the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 09:55 PM
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No, actually. I have some good female friends but their personalities are different from what I look for in an LTR. Many of them also work as escorts which excludes them from my dating pool tbh. Doesn't mean I think less of them, just that I wouldn't date a sex worker.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 09:44 PM
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calling someone promiscuous or slutty puts down not only their sexual behavior but much of the time it means to insult their worth as an overall human being. Surely this is only true if you tie your sexuality to your self-worth? Otherwise it means what it says: you have a lot of sex. It's up to you to own it and say "so what?" if you're fine with that. If you choose to believe having sex makes you worth less as a human that's your own beliefs shining through, not those of the person saying "slut…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 09:39 PM
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/u/ArthurMacArthur is right that most people do not have that drive, although I disagree that most people do not have the capacity. They absolutely do. You do not need to be high IQ to succeed in business. Most self-made millionaires are just middlemen. You just need to find your niche and have knowledge of it and you need to not be afraid of failure. Most people however are very afraid of failure and lack motivation to try doing anything by themselves regardless. Most people like to hamster thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 09:25 PM
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You also mentioned that men felt stronger in a relationship because of physical strength. But who would go as far as actually beating their woman? Not OP but I'd suggest it's more about the implication.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 08:56 PM
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Women do not have some special connection to the guy who took her V card mate. First girl I fucked it was also her first time. We lasted a few months then she dumped me for a married 50 year old who I can only assume is rich. This is after she asked me if it's okay for her to fuck this guy while we were still in a relationship and I told her to fuck off. The relationship I have with my current girlfriend is much closer even though we've both had a few previous partners.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 08:41 PM
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I've always said Machiavellianism is a universal human trait. More than that the Dark Triad correlates with success in careers, business, and sex. But as you seem to agree, your research does support the RP idea that DT traits are useful tools for their goals. Some more science: Jonason, P., Li, N., Webster, G., & Schmitt, D. (2009). The dark triad: Facilitating a short-term mating strategy in men. European Journal of Personality, 23(1), 5-18. doi:10.1002/per.698 This survey (N=224) found that c…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 08:33 PM
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Here's some stuff linked on the TBP sub: https://np.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/4ady2w/long_awaited_suggestions_from_a_rpw_mod/ https://archive.is/UI0fh Looks like tensions were building for a while.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 06:59 PM
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If I was unhappy with my gf I'd have broken up with her.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 06:48 PM
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I don't even really have strong morals at all. But if I make an agreement I stick to it as long as the other party holds up their end. That's so ridiculously basic you don't exactly need to be super-righteous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 01:12 PM
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The only people who say literally all women are going to cheat based on "science" are those who misunderstand AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 12:15 PM
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So TBP does have its own ideology and strategy to sell, thanks for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 12:03 PM
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This is why 'the bluepill' is so popular I thought it was just to make fun of TRP. Are you finally admitting TBP has its own ideology?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 11:59 AM
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It seems to me that the dispute was about moderation and the contents and aims of the new sub will the same as the old one. In this case, whatever beef bloops have before will remain, especially since it still has "red pill" in its name. Although I do agree with you that there is no reason BP should care about them wanting to live traditionally, fact is they do because anyone living in a way different to how they live is bad. Hardly anything new in the feminist movement tho is it? "No woman shou…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 11:55 AM
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I can agree with this to an extent. If you constantly afraid of "chad" stealing yo girl, and this is definitely a mindset RPers often have, that does appear insecure. Then again, I don't think it's fair to just use "insecure" as an insult or a punchline. It's a valid emotion and like any other emotion you should investigate why you feel it and what can be done to change it. In this specific case, no one goes to TRP because they're swimming in pussy. They go there because they're having bad luck …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 11:47 AM
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Being tactful to influence people sounds a lot like manipulation to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 11:43 AM
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Interpreting what someone else's emotions might be is very subjective. What do you call insecure? Do you say guys are insecure if they don't like their SOs clubbing?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 10:47 AM
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Well do you call men insecure for expressing emotions? Or do you just discuss the concept of insecurity in a more abstract sense?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 09:35 AM
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Every single socially competent human being is manipulative.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 09:34 AM
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I've had them shouting no but I keep going because that's not the safeword.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 09:19 AM
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Man I wish I knew all this shit at your age. Teenagers are slaves to their hormones and wildly erratic emotions and having some logic to regulate all that would have been very useful. You were going to have the realisation that love and relationships are not all happiness and sunshine and rainbows sooner or later, imo it's best you have it as early as possible. My best advice to you would be don't read too much into this at your age, but keep the core ideas in the back of your head because reali…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 09:09 AM
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You're correct it's not always pre-meditated but why does that matter? I met a very attractive girl who was coming onto me hard last year but I was with my gf at the time. She straight up invited me to her bedroom, the opportunity was wide open in front of me. You know what I did? Left her and went back home, because I have a fucking girlfriend. It's called self-control.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 09:05 AM
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I'm not directing anything at you personally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 09:02 AM
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RPW right now.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 08:59 AM
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/r/TRPcore
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 08:53 AM
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Dunno why but this reminds me of Femen being run by a man lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 08:53 AM
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I like the proverb, not sure if that was there before but it's good. I'll pay you in internet points if you put /r/TRPcore on your sidebar. It makes sense the red pill but not TRP subs stick together, no?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 08:51 AM
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It's not by choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/16 08:48 AM
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I dunno about you but I work to build a business because I want a Lamborghini. I already have pussy and as /u/salmon69 said, you don't need to be hard working just to get girls these days, being eccentric is more than enough and I'm exactly that naturally anyway. I want some cool toys now tho, so I need to put some work in for those because no one is paying for me for my interesting personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 11:24 PM
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For real, me and my gf are both pretty much batshit and if society was full of people like us it'd be a disaster although pharma profits would be up I'm sure. But being all crazy and eccentric attracts sexual partners. Sexual selection does not choose the best traits for society, that's just wishful thinking. It's cool tho I'm not having kids anyway so my shitty genes die with me.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 11:16 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eW87GRmunMY That should be like in the sidebar or something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 11:09 PM
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The guy you just replied to is a 40 year old virgin so it doesn't seem to be going too well for him. Although to be fair it's probably just a troll account.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 10:37 PM
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The persona he puts on is way over the top.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 10:32 PM
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Feminists: "Patriarchy hurts men too because toxic masculinity! Men should be able to show their emotions!" Feminists: "Lololol male tears! Insecure man child!" The only winning move is not to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 10:25 PM
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Well he's right. The way he speaks and acts is really fucking annoying, but the words coming out of his mouth are correct.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 10:14 PM
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I never pay for a girl's shit and have no problem having sex with them. If girls don't fuck you unless you spend money on them that seems like a reflection of either you or the kind of girls you go after.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 09:55 PM
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I'm not one these guys after virgins and shit so three dates like others are saying. I fucked my gf third date but got my dick sucked in public on the first one lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 09:10 PM
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Exactly. Borrrrring.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 04:30 PM
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Exactly. I can easily see why taking care of the household was real work in 1950's.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 04:06 PM
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Why would I wife a woman who didn't do BDSM?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 03:54 PM
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Imo it's about the extent of it really. If you have a girl who fucked 50 guys in her 20's it's likely she's trying to cover some issues. If she fucked 5-10 guys at uni, that's just normal and it's not something I'd care too much about unless there were other red flags present. Of course those who prefer super traditionalist girls who treat sex as sacred would discount even those with a count of 5, but that's on a different basis.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 03:45 PM
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I agree with ya, that's why I said I think TRP's explanation for marriage decrease is purely speculative. I just think people are cohabiting instead of marrying because there's not much point of marrying in modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 01:21 PM
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Laundry still had to be done manually in the 1950's iirc, which isn't an easy task. Actually pretty physically demanding.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 01:14 PM
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Gotta love 'em ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 01:10 PM
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Marriage rates are decreasing and have been for decades though. I mean, I think the TRP/MGTOW explanation for why this is happening is completely speculative, but it is a fact that marriage is becoming less popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 01:09 PM
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TIL that a pro-slut post is "purely RP."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 01:01 PM
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The data shows only correlation, not causation. As much as it truly pains me to say it, /u/ProbablyBelievesIt is correct wrt not every girl who fucked around a bit lost her impulse control.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 01:00 PM
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Agree with this OP, my gf had a couple partners before me, only three guys (and two girls) so not a big slut but anyway when she told me none of the guys could even last longer than a minute and I made her feel more pleasure just from a bit of fingering suddenly I couldn't care less about her sexual history either way. Of course it's always true the girl could be lying about this shit to make the guy feel good but this is where your personal judgement comes in. You have to judge if you can trust…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 12:57 PM
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I've been keeping this a secret for a while but I actually use Lyft not Uber.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 12:50 PM
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You'll be happier and less angry if you don't know.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 12:49 PM
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I loved that fucking film as a kid holy shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/16 12:48 PM
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It's only becoming easier to program computers to perform specific tasks as well as or better than humans. Driverless cars the most recent example. You don't really need more than a regular computer with the right code on it and a few sensors. Teaching AI to learn is the next step which is already being worked on with success. Many office jobs are just people sitting in front of computers working with data, why employ the people if the computers can do it themselves? Actors make an emotional con…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 12:28 PM
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Do you think the founder of the company is personally auditioning all the actors? You are being deliberately obtuse. You wish. Not really, it's kind of grim. Makes my existence rather pointless. I am comfortable with nihilist ideas of life itself having no inherent purpose, but I like the idea I can give my life meaning by what I do with it. Robots taking over everything kinda crushes that. But yet that's where we're heading.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 12:09 PM
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The movies he writes would not exist without production companies, casting companies, camera companies, CGI companies, etc, which are all subject to the power issues we've been discussing. I do not believe any politician genuinely feels empathy, I believe they are often excellent fakers. Then again who cares about any of this, really? The singularity will occur within a matter of decades and absolutely nothing humans do beyond that point will matter in the slightest.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 12:02 PM
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You are trying to compare a writer to a CEO or a politician. Man I can't take this seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 11:52 AM
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Well certainly if you want a job in the care sector then empathy is useful. But I made it clear from the start I am talking about what drives capitalism, not the worker bees. Those caring people serve a purpose as cogs but they do not drive the system.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 11:45 AM
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TRP has a big issue with being too over-run with blind anger that it has lot sight of its purpose. This is a poor reflection of TRP as a community but it says nothing about core RP ideas. Look at the introduction post back when TRP had only 100 subscribers. This is a direct quote: It's too easy to blame feminism for our troubles. Men, our happiness is our responsibility. Culture has always shifted, it's dynamic and fluid. It has never and will never stay still. Feminism was inevitable. Equal rig…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 11:38 AM
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You keep insisting that unless you feel full on emotional empathy for everyone, and it always leads to purely altruistic outcomes, it doesn't count. Not at all. I'm saying that you don't become successful by getting emotionally invested in those you work with, so not having much affective empathy is a strength in this pursuit. You're not even actually disagreeing with that in your arguments, you just don't like the idea, like it rubs you the wrong way even though you accept it's true. Wise/intel…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 10:41 AM
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They screw over rivals, and the people they need to form temporary alliances with, which isn't the same thing. It's exactly the same thing. They're not feeling empathy for those people are they? Many small businesses are simply filling a need, or a want. All businesses do this. If no one demands your product you die. Like BlackBerry. But if anything that example I gave about remaining loyal to a supplier applies even more to small businesses than it does to big ones. A large company is not relia…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 10:15 AM
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We're talking about ingroups and outgroups. I never once claimed empathy was limitless, and without flaw. Politicians screw their own over to get to where they are in the first place. It's not only about ingroups and outgroups. All but the very top few are failures Where did I claim this? Success occurs on a small scale as well as a large one. Someone who runs a relatively small company that makes enough profit to provide that person with a comfortable life is still a success.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 10:04 AM
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Yeah, but only if you redefine every powerful person shedding tears for someone else's pain as an act. We're talking about politicians who green light bombing innocent citizens in other countries one day then go on the news showing crocodile tears for citizens in their own country the next. These are not people who actually care about anyone or anything that isn't directly related to their own self-interest. Power requires questionable compromises, sure. And it requires the ability to both form,…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 09:32 AM
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You seem to have skipped the most important part of my comment: the two different types of empathy. Affective empathy has zero real world utility if you are looking to attain power. Cognitive empathy is the useful tool you are actually talking about, but that has nothing to do with caring about the emotions of others like you're trying to claim. You're attempting to crudely conflate one with the other here but they're different concepts. Successful people take many paths towards becoming success…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 09:00 AM
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no one would have taken it Yep, no one wants to be the loser who has to take a class to learn to talk to people. no one wants to take anything that won't lead to a qualification. Exactly. What would a class in social skills do for your CV? It'd be a looked at as a bullshit subject like a textiles GCSE.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 08:45 AM
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Power inhibits empathy. And why do you think this is? Possibly because empathy works against you if you aim to attain power? Read the 48 Laws, which is recommended by successful CEOs and celebrities, and tell me how much empathy it promotes. Empathy by itself is simply the ability to share/understand someone else's feelings, or place yourself into their circumstances. Strictly speaking, if we are getting technical about it, there are two types of empathy: affective and cognitive. Affective empat…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 08:42 AM
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Nor was I, OP just got all angry and repeated "garbage" and "junk" a bunch of times despite being British. I want my time back, this is a violation of the Trades Descriptions Act.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 08:36 AM
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Empathy is caring unnecessarily about other people's feels. I would never call a politician empathetic. Not even in the most abstract sense. A politician may very well act empathetic when required, but those guys are as cold hearted as they come. Here's a good article on the subject. You'll notice it suggests psychopathy is not even necessarily a bad thing in these cases as the traits are clearly useful in the field of politics. And the same goes for business.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 08:20 AM
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I had to look up the law in the UK after seeing this and thankfully it's all legal here as long as the parent uses their own DNA to test against the kid instead of the other parent's. Also found this amusing, while typing it into Google look at the fourth suggestion. This was in private browsing so no it's not going off my previous searches (there's always one).
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 08:09 AM
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You can't gaslight someone through the internet and this is not what gaslighting is.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 08:02 AM
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I think we're talking about different things. I'm talking about driving capitalism, which is starting up and running a business. You're talking about doing a job working for someone else who started up a business. The people at the top who own the businesses don't get to where they are through empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 07:54 AM
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Giving a shit about money yes, getting emotionally invested in other people and other unimportant bullshit, not so much.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 06:58 AM
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I lean mostly towards the red side in terms of ideas although I find the TRP sub utterly cringeworthy.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 06:49 AM
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Definitely but unfortunately humans are emotional creatures.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 06:49 AM
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I was never angry, I just said "yeah this shit makes sense" and learnt more here because TRP main was virtually unreadable with all the bullshit. If you do feel the need to have an anger phase, do it over the TRP main sub and go to TRP core when you're out. Go through it if you must, but if you want sensible discussion rather than being surrounded by edgy teenagers, it's good to have a place for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 06:47 AM
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We’re so quick to explain, rationalize, and spit out all of these great reasons, yet too timid to state the best reason of all: It’s okay to treat women this way because they deserve it. Fuck thinking, just give into your emotions. When you’re camping in the woods and a wild animal enters your campsite, you shoot the animal, or at least run it off. You don’t wait to see if the animal causes any harm. Compare 'em to wild animals you'd shoot out of instinct, get that anger flowing. If your dog bit…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/16 06:45 AM
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I can at least respect honesty. /r/TRPcore is for discussing RP's central ideas without all the anger phase or emotional rhetoric found on TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 10:16 PM
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This is why the TRP subreddit is bullshit, more people need to use /r/TRPcore for sensible discussion instead. TRP is too focused on moralising nowadays. Seriously that whole post you just linked, it's pure emotion. No logic or argument. Feels. This is pathetic moralfaggotry. To be fair though... Archwinger openly admits he is a misogynist. He's not someone who dances around it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 10:10 PM
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Yes that's also stupid. The responses to that thread saying it's okay for men to party but not women are just male hamster. Men and women are both sexual animals and meatmarkets are inherently sexual environments. My personal view is that no one male or female should be in such an environment if they are in an LTR. I will apply this standard to all my relationships and if the girl doesn't like it she can leave. That's holding frame which is what RPers really should be pushing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 08:56 PM
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I gathered.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 08:54 PM
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Men will take the piss out of anyone even if they're not close in my experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 08:53 PM
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Agreed++
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 08:32 PM
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I genuinely don't even think the women on here will dispute the truth of that statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 08:32 PM
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That's good for you if you're both happy. It's equally fine if other couples prefer for their SOs so not to be into party scenes in the first place if that's not their cup of tea. The issue is when BP tries to frame the above as insecurity and shame that preference, as they do with so many other preferences.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 08:24 PM
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Men insult each other but don't mean it, women are nice to each other but don't mean it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 08:18 PM
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Of course, there would not be a debate forum if this were not the case. The question is, if you are choosing a partner for an LTR, do you want someone who thinks about things the same way you do? To me and many others the answer is yes. I don't want to keep butting heads with my SO. We're meant to be on the same team.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 08:03 PM
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And I'm saying if you use the logic put forward by the guy I'm actually replying to, it shouldn't matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 07:46 PM
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But by his own logic, the only reason you'd have a committed partner is the sex. He literally said himself he does not need a woman for companionship, he has male friends for that. Look further down the thread and see for yourself. Given that this is his mindset, I see absolutely no reason for him not to just use hookers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 06:37 PM
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It's also so much cheaper than street price. Literally like a quarter of the price for higher purity shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 06:32 PM
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I've been to clubs with loud music, I do not understand how they are meant to be enjoyable. Even when I'm on drugs I prefer being in a quiet environment with a few friends than a stupidly loud club full of sweaty strangers. I remember comedian said something like: clubs are not fun, even the people who claim to like them have to take drugs to enjoy themselves but drugs make location meaningless - you could bosh a load of ketamine and roll around in your bedroom and still have just as much fun. T…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 06:13 PM
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All hail the darknet.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 06:00 PM
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Are you worried all the time while she's out? Do you keylog her or read her messages? How do you stop her from leaving the kitchen and doing something without your supervision? Oh come on, this is not a post made in good faith. Anyway, there is a clear difference between micromanaging and setting boundaries. My girlfriend can do what she likes and I can't really stop her but actions have consequences. For example if she cheats on me the consequence will be the end of our relationship. Likewise, …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 05:48 PM
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But you're failing to understand what an unenforced law means. Like I said, the police won't go out of their way to arrest you for it, but they still have the right to. Abortion clinics would still exist but they'd be underground like a speakeasy. There would be no regulation because it's still a black market. And government funding? Kiss bye bye to that. You would still have to treat it just like any other criminal offence and keep all activity on the downlow.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 05:23 PM
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Eh possible, but if you're actually a slut trying to avoid being shamed you'd go for something less remarkable so as not to arouse suspicion. I'd be inclined to believe it in this case, like others said it's not abnormal to hit the clubbing scene if you just got out of an LTR. HOWEVER, if I'd seen this girl in the club multiple times before, I would have more reason to doubt it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 05:22 PM
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So if there was an anti-abortion law from 10 years ago still on the books you're saying that would not bother you at all? You'd be completely content to just leave it there?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 05:08 PM
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I'll just leave this here.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 05:03 PM
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As I said in the IRC, obviously people in poverty are driven to desperation and this causes mental distress. But I am talking really about working class people, not chavs. Poverty and working class ain't the same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 05:02 PM
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You overhear her talking with her girlfriends, and she states that she has only slept with one guy If she's talking to her girlfriends what incentive does she have to lie?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 05:00 PM
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Cite me evidence that the lower class contains more unstable people than the middle and upper classes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 04:32 PM
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I have a deep rooted inferiority complex and struggle to believe that I am actually loveable. Me too man. That's why I fake my personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 04:31 PM
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The lack of enforcement reflects the fact that the police don't want to waste their time. It says nothing about the government itself and it leaves the possibility that someone higher up in the chain could easily tell police to knock on someone's door and arrest them under a law that wouldn't otherwise be enforced. Put it this way. Let's say I told you I wanted to make abortion illegal. I promise I won't really enforce it properly. The law will just be there. Would you be okay with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 04:29 PM
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What evidence do you use to support that claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 04:27 PM
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You think emotionally unstable people don't exist in middle and upper class? Hahaha.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 04:27 PM
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This: You believe men are valued as much for their appearance (by society or by the individual?) as much as women? Suggested otherwise. But if we're in agreement, cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 03:35 PM
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Legislators don't spend time and money making laws for no reason. Even a law that is not enforced in most cases (which the UK laws on the matter are not either) are important in two ways: They reflect the attitudes of the government that created them, and are a good demonstration on how much control the powers that be believe they should have over the populace They can be selectively enforced any time it becomes convenient, for example if the government or even a particular police officer or jud…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 03:30 PM
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I've only dated white girls and they're all crazy too. Bitches be crazy, yo.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 03:17 PM
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That it's not exclusive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 03:07 PM
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That's what the laws are for. Some states even still ban sodomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 03:07 PM
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The USA has no federal law against S&M but many states criminalise it regardless. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BDSM_and_the_law#United_States
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 03:03 PM
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Of course. Society in general is harder for ugly people of both genders.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 03:02 PM
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If the only thing is marriage is good for is sex why not hire escorts? Cheaper and much less hassle.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 02:56 PM
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Do you deny that an ugly fat man is seen as lower value than a fit attractive man?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 02:46 PM
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White supremacists are pathetic collectivist moralfags and I don't take their opinions on race seriously in the slightest, nor do I take seriously the opinion of anyone who suggests others have some kind of duty to reproduce. Freedom of the individual is more important than anything else in my view.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 02:42 PM
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A better example, aside from the already very good drugs one, is that in many places (including states in the US) it is illegal to do S&M and the police can pursue action against individuals hurting each other consensually even if neither party wishes to press charges. Here is a very famous case from the UK which set the precedent that S&M is a crime even with full consent. In a legal sense it's certainly correct to say our state controls what we do with our own bodies and I do believe the state…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 02:39 PM
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Well personally I do not cry ever. The thing is I was talking about all this stuff but more importantly talking about how I had already overcome it. That is very important in my mind. It shows I have vulnerability but also that I've taken action and have control of my problem. That is the balance that you need to strike as a man. Also, this only works on the right type of girl in the right situation so you have to be smart about it. Has to be a girl you just met and has to be someone who has had…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 08:01 AM
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Why not just lie about your history?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 07:49 AM
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I find this works on girls who are just as fucked up themselves, they relate with their own experiences and yes they feel like they can nurture me as you said. I would never do this during a relationship because I like being dominant in those, but damn if it doesn't help me get into a girls knickers.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/16 07:31 AM
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Have you ever left one women for another? Nope. Have you ever comfort or shit tested your girlfriend or wife? Sure. Everyone does this. I say stuff just so I can judge her response. Did you plan to have casual sex when you are younger, then settle down with a more appropriate woman when you get older? Or did you already do this? Nope I've never really liked casual sex too much. Do you catch yourself being solipsistic at times? Yep. Do you ever inappropriately blame your situation on externals ra…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 06:39 PM
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Agreed completely. Do not rely on trusting someone else with your own destiny. Very stupid move.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 04:40 PM
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If you're only thinking of weeaboos your thoughts about nerds makes sense. Fuck weeaboos.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 02:19 PM
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You can be both degenerate and nerdy, me and my whole social circle are, we have a lot of fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 10:12 AM
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You need a level of social skills to exploit this trait to your advantage though. If you're socially inept you could even fuck that up.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 10:09 AM
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Nah I buy that. I had girls hit on me when I was socially awkward first year of uni and it was very easy to get them into bed from that point even for me. Alcohol helps. But ultimately they must have found me attractive to approach me in the first place. Looks are important.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 10:05 AM
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She would just find another one though, OP is right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 09:59 AM
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No half measures.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 09:58 AM
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Tell her to make sure anyone you're fucking uses protection because STDs can kill you. Then ask if she's at least getting drugs off this guy and tell her she has to share.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/16 09:54 AM
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Yeah people get too hung up on the numbers bullshit. Everyone rates how attractive others are. Women might not rely as much on physical aspects as much as men do but it's all the same shit ultimately: ranking how much you'd fuck someone else.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 09:17 PM
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how would you feel if a girl shoved her thumb up your butt without asking? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 08:05 PM
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Not having a go at you here, I just find the whole debate over this issue silly because surely the very premise only applies to a tiny percentage of the population in the first place? I'm not even being flippant, most people who cannot understand non-verbal communication probably do have at least some level of autism. Most people have no issues with this. The fact it's such a point of obsession for feminists and MRAs alike tells us something about the people who make up both groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 07:13 PM
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Or you could just understand non-verbal social cues. Unless you're autistic this isn't exactly difficult.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:55 PM
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That guy is a fucking moron. Of course I don't fuck random sluts without protection.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:52 PM
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I WANNA FUCK YOU LIKE AN ANIMAAAAAL
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:50 PM
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only a justification for a lack of morality Oh no not my morality! D:
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:45 PM
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I'm not superior, you're just inferior Oh okay, you're trolling. for being an animal and treating others as such Humans are animals.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:42 PM
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Ofc I talk in sex I just don't ask "do you consent?" every 10 seconds and sign the contract in triplicate. I do fun dirty talk instead. My more serious answer regarding verbally asking what she wants would be this depends on how well I know the girl I'm fucking. I've been with my girlfriend for years now and I know what she likes and doesn't like. I don't need to ask if she wants XYZ, I just do it and she gets into it. But if hypothetically it was my first time with a new girl obviously it'd be …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:38 PM
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Lol get off your high horse. Most of us don't care if you say ONS isn't your thing (I'm the same) but trying to make yourself out as being superior to others because you don't like casual sex is just cringeworthy. You're not a special snowflake.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:14 PM
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Violently self-hating perhaps.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 06:03 PM
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Nothing like a fat line of ket.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:51 PM
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Aww thx :)
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:50 PM
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I tend to find this is true when it comes to expressing emotions with my gf but I'd never cry in front of her in a billion years even if I thought I was the most masculine man in the galaxy. Then again I've not cried since I was a teenager anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 05:50 PM
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I feel ya. I never made too much effort specifically for women but I got a gf anyway. I do lift etc but that's for my own benefit because it makes me feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 01:31 PM
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I can get that, so MGTOW makes no effort to get women but will take the opportunity if it comes their way as long as they don't get married?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 01:17 PM
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I understand this is the theory. However, if the threshold for MGTOW is simply not getting married, what in reality is the difference? If a guy who calls himself MGTOW still fucks women is he also not a part of the system as much as the red piller is?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 01:04 PM
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But if MGTOW can be boiled down to anti-marriage, what differentiates it from TRP? It sounds like the same thing with a cooler website.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 12:55 PM
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Again, they don't even say to examine if your wife would be okay with you crying in front of her. They always treat it like she isn't. With regards to this specific example you have to play the odds. You can say "I might have won the lottery" because you played your numbers, but the overwhelming odds are you didn't. Likewise if we're being honest most women will be turned off by a man who openly cries. That's just the reality of the world we live in. Pretending it's any different gets us nowhere…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 12:52 PM
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Do you know that if you live long enough with a woman you're still legally eligible for divorce rape? This is only true in like 5 states and even then there are requirements before it kicks in like you must have shared finances already.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 12:45 PM
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No, in fact growing up I always looked up to my mum a lot more than I looked up to my dad. My mum accomplished like 10x more in her life than my dad ever did easy. I don't even care about having kids so the whole thing about wanting a woman who makes a good mother isn't a concern to me either. Why am I not blue then? Because men and women and different and the women I've dated like a dominant strong man. I apply this stuff to my dating life. Doesn't mean I look down on women or think they don't …
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 12:40 PM
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We've been saying nice things about you in there, will be cool to have you back.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 12:32 PM
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That's such a loose definition it's meaningless especially since it allows for LTRs which still involve living beside women. How's that MGTOW in any meaningful way?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 12:17 PM
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Do you want a gold star?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 10:49 AM
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MGTOW will never get big enough to have any real effect on society. The male sex drive is too strong.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 10:46 AM
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Looks like a lava lamp lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 10:36 AM
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This doesn't explain why the logic of the two statements is any different, you're just defending it. Interesting.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 10:36 AM
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Even if they do have kids they're thinking of the child support money m8.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/16 10:34 AM
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I can take your word for that in the US, in the UK you can get all the same benefits from cohabitation. But even in your situation you have to balance out the risks and benefits. I'd argue the risks are too high but it's individual preference.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 10:29 PM
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We can agree to disagree here because either way you don't need to get married to share a residence.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 10:22 PM
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Answering under the bot since I lean red and this is Q4BP. However I can offer some insight into this because I can tell you my girlfriend gets a lot of flack for not towing the feminist line. If the topic comes up in conversation and she disagrees with the new age blank slate bullshit she gets ostracised. God forbid she mentions she is more traditional in her personal relationship. The reaction is not friendly. So yes I absolutely think there is a lot of pressure put on women to conform to femi…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 10:15 PM
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You know, I've asked bloops this before but never got a straight answer. How is the assertion that "TRP only works on insecure stupid women" any different than the Nice Guy™ grievance that "women only like assholes and ignore the good guys"? It seems to me like a rehashed version of the exact same logic. Anger directed at the "other side" because of who they're attracted to.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 10:05 PM
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sexy yet classy. This is exactly what I'm going for yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 09:56 PM
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Honestly number 2 for both. I don't like a style that's particularly slutty or modest, I far prefer a balance. Also I like blondes and heels so it just goes.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 09:54 PM
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If anything BP is the real minority if we're going by the beliefs espoused on the subreddit. They're borderline SJWs over there which most people are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 09:50 PM
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I think you're missing my point which is that if you're in a couple you require a bigger more expensive space to live in the first place. Also you can share the cost of housing without getting married so this whole conversation is kinda moot.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 09:46 PM
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I doubt the women going after guys for their money are thinking about their future families either. More like "look at all this cool stuff I can get!"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 09:31 PM
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Without a family it's affordable to live on your own in a small flat and have reasonable disposable income after unless you live in an expensive capital city. I don't see what your point is. A big fancy house is a luxury, it's far from essential. Might as well complain you can't afford a Ferrari.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 09:28 PM
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I wouldn't call seeing prostitutes beta bux. You're not locked into any commitment and you are in full control of how often you see them and how much you spend. Beta bux implies being stuck in a marriage where your finances are tied up.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 03:34 PM
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Exactly, it's all very dependent on the individuals involved. I have this admittedly vague idea that marriage has important benefits like being able to make medical decisions about the other person. This highlights another important thing which is local laws. Most on here are Americans so this will be something to consider. In the UK there aren't very many legal benefits to marriage. Doctors in the UK will listen to your opinion about medical issues of your partner just the same if you're marrie…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 12:06 PM
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There are already other magazines for that, they're called "newspapers."
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 11:57 AM
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As /u/despisedlove2 said it depends entirely on the individual dynamic. If you're a thirsty desperate man who doesn't think he can get pussy outside the relationship, you'll "need" it more. If you're a co-dependent woman who feels like she has to be in a relationship to be happy, you'll "need" it more. Both are very common from what I've seen. And yes I agree that whoever cares less has the most power. It's hard to deny that really and this is knowledge that existed way before TRP. I was told it…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 11:45 AM
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Same :(
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 11:42 AM
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Yeah I understand that. Although there are two sides here. One side says that marriage is good for family because it'd force the couple to stay together for the kids if things went south. This argument assumes miserable parents staying together is better for the kids than miserable parents separating. But the other side says that if you're in that position you'd do better to break up else you're setting a very bad example for your children when their primary example of a relationship growing up …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 11:40 AM
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What's wrong with entertainment? You might as well ask why stories about ISIS are not reported here on PPD. People don't need to be bombarded by real (depressing) shit 24/7.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 11:35 AM
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Do you think this only happens to black people? I know a guy in the US who was a nerdy whitey, he had a bad acid trip and freaked out a bit, the police came and shot him dead. That would never have happened here in the UK, the police would have taken him to hospital, he'd be given some Valium and wake up the next morning fine. Clearly there is a big problem with how the power mad US police think they're some kind of military who have the right to shoot first and ask questions later. However, BLM…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 11:30 AM
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This is implicit everywhere really, it's just not socially acceptable. Most johns are married men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 11:23 AM
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Yes plz do cite.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 10:40 AM
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If you live on your own you don't need a big house in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/16 10:39 AM
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You really don't think women care more about marriage than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 11:40 PM
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You'll have to retrain and do the bar exam again if you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 11:33 PM
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Tell her how you plan to overcome your weakness instead of having a defeatist attitude. This is a great piece of advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 10:31 PM
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In a ONS this is true because it's a very "down to business" arrangement. You're not there to share your feelings. But I get the feeling you're talking about a relationship. In that case I have to disagree. If you're completely shut off your relationship won't last long. That's not to say you should cry daily either, but you should feel comfortable sharing your feelings with your SO. Women like shit like that in moderation.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 10:19 PM
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I don't need others approval. The fact that you made this thread suggests otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 10:07 PM
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If it doesn't harm you, keep doing it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 10:05 PM
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Your view is very one sided. Do you think men are perfect angels? Why do you think marriage is declining? Because it's no longer required. Simple as that. Marriage as an expression of love is a relatively modern concept. Throughout history it's always been a tool for exchanging property and consolidating wealth. But it's completely outgrown that purpose and it's now easy to have a relationship without marriage. Asking if men or women are "at fault" for marriage rates falling is really asking the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 10:00 PM
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That's good but do you think you're the exception or the rule?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 09:35 PM
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U know ur special bb.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 09:35 PM
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Only one so far but a lot of people have requested more for other countries. Subscribe to his YouTube channel.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 09:34 PM
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Oh you're talking about poly. I wish you lot would make that clear early on. Monogamous married people (which is the vast majority of them) are not exactly doing that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 12:43 PM
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If you're only after a ONS yeah just lie if it helps you, who cares? Besides, saying you're one type of doctor instead of another isn't even that much of a lie. On a personal level I agree that psychiatry is very important and I wish you the best of luck in your career.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 12:41 PM
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If you want a degree that'll get you girls while you're studying do English literature or something. Those courses are like 70% female and they're exactly the type of girls who go after artsy creative guys or whatever. If you want a degree that'll help you get a stable career, study engineering and reap greater benefits later when you're making good money and can easily pull.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 12:30 PM
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Unless you have a camera in their bedrooms I doubt you know the full story.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 12:27 PM
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Fair enough, was just curious as to what you're going for.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 12:27 PM
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Luckily my immediate social circle does not contain boring old married people. But if you doubt what I'm saying, have a few drinks with a married man then ask him.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 12:04 PM
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In that case go and tell that to every wife in the world lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 11:55 AM
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To deliberately not care about the feelings of others is a learned sociopathic behavior, and that's behavior society has every interest in discouraging. Someone should probably give society this memo so it can stop rewarding sociopathic behaviour then.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 11:42 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZv_TARX3lI
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 11:40 AM
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Interesting experiment OP, I'm guessing you're going to compare the answers here to the men's from the previous thread. But lol at how in the men's one you asked about a daughter who didn't want kids and in this one you ask about a daughter who wants to be a porn star. Are those meant to be equivalents?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 11:34 AM
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Loose border control sure works well for the EU, failing economy and multiple terrorist attacks!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 11:23 AM
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Clearly the patriarchy is downvoting her posts to silence womyn, shitlord.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 11:21 AM
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Good.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 10:54 AM
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Where did he claim women don't also look for that stuff? You seem to be getting angry at nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 10:40 AM
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Learn about the history of Japan!
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 10:22 AM
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using sex as method of control is a form of emotional abuse, just a little fyi In that case all wives are emotionally abusive. But I don't see that getting taken seriously by anyone. You know I read a thing the other day that listed "glaring" and "not doing housework" as abuse too. We're seriously just making a complete mockery of genuine abuse victims at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 10:16 AM
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OP you are being extremely vague. What exactly are you on about? Machiavellianism?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 10:09 AM
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They absolutely do. It's not as much of a trope in the movies but I promise you they do. It's not like teenage boys can just bring a girl home when their parents are in. My parents went mad at me for trying lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/16 09:51 AM
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The post literally opens with: this should be a fun trip into complete fantasy land...
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 11:32 PM
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I know right? Feminist and educated? Talk about an oxymoron.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 11:31 PM
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Some people don't like sex without emotional connection. Yes, even some men.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 10:24 PM
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Purple leaning red. Do you pay for the check when going out with a girl? If we're just dating? No. I split it always. If we're in an LTR? Sure because she'll pay me back the next time. But this is very different. Do you believe in chivalry? Are you chivalrous? Do you think chivalry is dead? https://i.imgur.com/yXKpyxV.jpg Do you want to get married and/or to have children? Never. Do you support abortion? Death penalty? Drug legalization? Yes, no, yes. Would you date a single mother? Never. I don…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 10:16 PM
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Definitely and in that case the guy is clearly at fault. I'm not arguing only women can do this shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 09:28 PM
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This is a pretty interesting post actually because I've never understood the hatred of sluts thing and maybe this is why. All the ones I've known have been happy chill girls. Not to say I'd LTR them either (for the usual reasons TRP says) but I don't hate them or find them disgusting either. I like hanging out with them and fucking them and shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 09:10 PM
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https://i.imgur.com/3C1EGzD.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 08:28 PM
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You're in luck the Xan Man is in attendance.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 07:52 PM
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Yep. But as I've said, those people had much more chance of reaching their goal than those who never try.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 07:31 PM
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Be submissive Be attractive Be at least average intelligence Not abusive Doesn't want kids or marriage Low n-count preferred but definitely doesn't have to be a virgin The first one is most important, the rest tends to follow.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 06:55 PM
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If that man didn't use any contraception then of course he's at fault. But condoms do break etc. Also there's cases where a woman claims to be on the pill but isn't. You could blame the guy for trusting the woman, but ultimately the woman deceived him and is largely the one at fault there.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 06:46 PM
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The vast majority of new businesses fail If that wasn't true it wouldn't be much risk.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 06:45 PM
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No, in that scenario I would not favour financial abortion. I'd also definitely get a vasectomy.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 03:45 PM
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A riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 03:41 PM
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Half-shaved Skrillex hair too.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 11:27 AM
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Why my flair is purple instead of red: TRP taken over too much by the anger phase, makes the place cringeworthy TRP taken over too much by moralising traditionalists, makes the place cringeworthy Some of the above two groups are endorsed contributors A few elements of the theory e.g. the 80/20 rule are nonsense and only exist to help betas feel better about themselves TRP overall is "build a better beta" (I think /u/Atlas_B_Shruggin coined this) rather than teaching genuine alpha traits - for an…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 10:59 AM
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I've been wondering the same about her and I'm on here way too often.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 10:56 AM
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What say you to the fact that parents get protective over their sons having sex as teens as well as their daughters? I don't think that says anything about if you "slut shame" or not, it's just parents being over-protective.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 10:48 AM
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Risk assessment, lack of long term viability?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/16 10:47 AM
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I wouldn't marry a man. Ergo, I hate men. Seems logical to me!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 11:28 PM
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True. But I'd certainly argue that anyone who dates trans people is not straight, no matter what other label they wanna give themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 04:06 PM
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Agree completely. People who talk about how horribly manipulative "nice guys" are need to remember Hanlon's razor: "never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity." Usually these people are clueless teenagers who simply need to learn better social skills.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 04:04 PM
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You're saying the same thing I just did with different words. Pansexual = bi + okay with trans.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:59 PM
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I've been smarting it up all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:28 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4as3wl/would_you_date_a_transsexual/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:17 PM
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It comes under "pansexual" though, that's what that label was made for: signifying you don't care if someone is trans or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:11 PM
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Smarter people are more likely to smoke pot or do a line than the average simpleton. I must be fucking Einstein.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 03:04 PM
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A self-confessed slut mourns the fact that her daughter's n-count at 19 is higher than her own at 19. This article is really strange to me. Then again, it's a Jezebel article. The kind of people who write those are hard for most non-crazies to relate to. However, I will say that if you're a guy parents will still get all weird about you having sex as a teenager. Dunno why, protective instincts and shit I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/16 11:46 AM
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TGP did a quality post about this here.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 04:01 PM
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Seriously? You're taking something she feels is positive and telling her that it's inherently negative. How is it not telling her how to feel? You are more misogynistic than any TRPer in PPD.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 03:59 PM
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Hey maybe that would explain why women seem to not know what they want - it used to not matter! Genius!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 10:35 AM
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In the eyes of RP, everyone fits neatly into either the 'Alpha' or 'Beta' category. RPers dismiss the notion that a man can have both positive and negative traits simultaneously - being 'alpha' and 'beta'. They ignore these intricacies, to define someone as a neat-fitting 'alpha' or 'beta'. This is the opposite of the truth. Stop labeling each other alphas and betas, they're terms we use to classify particular behaviors and help demonstrate good versus bad behavior. Nobody is intrinsically an "a…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 10:33 AM
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Just another reason for the EU to die ASAP.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 10:24 AM
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Lol you deleted the comment but here it is from Archive: Duh. good on her. The spinning of inherently negative concepts into as positive as one can manage... now that is worthy of condescension.... https://archive.is/ek9dy#selection-4603.0-4603.140
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 10:13 AM
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That's a very interesting point. We know how it became the reverse - we became more civilised in our society. But I wonder if the evopsych lot have done research into the implications of this shift?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/16 10:12 AM
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Is knifeplay really that mainstream now? Shit, I need to step my game up.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 11:48 PM
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There was like three or four whole ducks! Makes for funny reading.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 11:45 PM
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Let me guess you typed this on your phone?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 11:40 PM
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YOU'RE A WHITE MALE!!!!!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 11:09 PM
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Fair for them, but I still don't get why there was outright rage because my gf's story didn't include it. That's like raging at a random BDSM story because it didn't have foot fetish stuff in it. If they want that shit they can go write their own story.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 05:22 PM
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Well I dunno, throughout history there was probably a lot more rape.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 04:55 PM
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Probably because if they banned all the shitposting trolls this would become TRP 2.0 with like three blues on the side.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 04:41 PM
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Meh I'm a guy and I have depression, anxiety, at least some personality disorder traits (according to psychiatrist), I had a minor drug addiction last year, and I've been in and out of work a bit. Not had any trouble getting laid or getting into a relationship. These days I have shit under control pretty well and I'm working on a business but I used to genuinely be a complete fucking mess and I still banged some very hot girls during that time.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 04:32 PM
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Why are red pill women always more unhinged than men? https://i.imgur.com/jFkCjoU.jpg
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 01:43 PM
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Sex is sex. Of course it counts. To claim it doesn't would require some mightly hamstering. Also if trading drugs for sex doesn't count you can cut my N-count in half lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 01:33 PM
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Didn't this already happen? It sure did for me ;)
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 01:30 PM
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This sounds like Time Cube.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 01:20 PM
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Even worse you get the trope of attacking the guy who found out and let him know. Why would you get mad there? That's someone doing you a favour. People are idiots, that's my take.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 01:18 PM
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You realise you are literally a man telling a woman how she should feel right? And somehow you think you are not the one being sexist here?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 01:12 PM
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Seriously though I can't believe you're a male. You're one hell of a white knight.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 12:53 PM
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'Tis the SJW way.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 12:51 PM
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That's why I said TBP. I'm referring to the subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 12:46 PM
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I tell her what to do and she does it! Clearly I beat her daily! Somewhat related: my gf wrote a fantasy erotica for me and posted it on Literotica and got all negative comments about how the story showed abuse and wasn't BDSM. This is comments on a fictional sexual fantasy on a website specifically for posting fictional sexual fantasies. It's like these morons expected there to be safewords inside a fucking fantasy.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 12:09 PM
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I see just as much cuckquean porn out there. Goes both ways.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 11:56 AM
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Yeah because if something is illegal it suddenly disappears. That's why buying drugs is literally impossible.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 11:42 AM
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I love how you're making your fellow bloops so mad just by saying you like men. Really shows the true nature of most on BP. TBP just uses TRP as a proxy for hating men.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 11:39 AM
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But if you refuse to date Asian girls that makes you racist. You can't win!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 11:18 AM
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I could even post what is in my eyes the most flattering aspects of myself and my relationship and liberals would definitely advise me to leave my gf or advise her to leave me. The word "abusive" would probably be thrown around in every single reply just because we're not egalitarian lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 11:11 AM
2

Fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/16 11:02 AM
12

This sums it up perfectly.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 09:36 PM
2

BPD girls have absolutely no problem getting into relationships specifically because of how they act (very good at manipulation), I don't think it's controversial to argue that any skilled Machiavellian is more likely to have the superficial charm required to be attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 08:42 PM
3

21 year old, count is 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 06:22 PM
1

Why don't you think things through? Just because someone told you it's bad doesn't mean you can't do it. I'm assuming you're an adult right?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 06:20 PM
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I don't disagree thirst is unattractive, but "higher evolved animals"? Pull your head out of your ass.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 06:19 PM
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DTs of both genders are hot indeed.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 11:06 AM
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Oh come on, I think I speak for men everywhere when I say handies don't count.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 10:40 AM
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"I'm holier than thou because I don't like sex." Sounds like a bitter virgin who can't get any in secondary school lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 10:28 AM
2

But the guy you replied to didn't say it was a need, he said it was an inclination, i.e. humans are wired to desire sex. That's just an obvious fact.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 10:27 AM
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I got the complete opposite impression: Jill is very picky.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 10:24 AM
1

It just sounds like you're trying to shield yourself from heartbreak by never getting close enough to anyone to feel it. Which, lol, I realise sounds like a cliché from a bad romcom, but you see what I mean hopefully. Your mindset is just "if I don't get close to this person I can't be sad if they leave" but in the process you're reducing the amount of enjoyable emotional intimacy you feel.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 10:18 AM
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What I'm asking is if you can learn to stop being a social loser or if your condition is too severe to grow out of. Only you can answer that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 12:01 AM
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The kind of RPers who do want LTRs are the same ones who don't like sleeping around themselves. However, they naturally are not as active in TRP because TRP is literally a community all about casual sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/16 12:00 AM
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Socially awkward and having intense interests but still able to function.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 11:58 PM
1

How severe is it? Mild Asperger's can be overcome with life experience. More severe autism will have you fucked tho yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 11:48 PM
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Because if someone does come in looking to get married or have an LTR, it's good advice that they often won't hear outside of TRP. That doesn't mean that TRP itself supports marriage though. It'd be like asking me what HP computer to get, me telling you HP is shit, and you insisting you want to buy one anyway, so I give you the best of that selection. Doesn't mean I think those are good computers, but I can point out which are likely to be less terrible.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 11:46 PM
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I do think your approach can work in mono STRs. But in a mono LTR the whole idea is you become attached to your partner for life. That's the ideal, at least. By throwing that out the window right from the beginning, I see absolutely no reason to commit yourself to that person in the first place. You seriously might as well just fuck around if you're treating the relationship as temporary at the start.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 11:43 PM
1

War is created by greed. For power, land, oil, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 09:57 PM
1

But again I'd argue this is a difference between monogamy and non-monogamy, and you have not provided any argument as to why those two should be treated the same despite the fact they're clearly very different.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 09:56 PM
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That's a better explanation. Essentially it is a focus on STRs over LTRs. If that's how you roll then obviously you can avoid jealousy. But this is still not an argument that jealous is always bad and it does not address LTRs at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 09:28 PM
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That's a sensible approach, but then it supports what I was originally saying which is that monogamous relationships are a very different dynamic from polyamorous ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 09:26 PM
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Or it is simply a reflection of reality: it is not cost effective to manufacture in America in 2016.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 07:45 PM
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You've yet to present me with any argument that causes me to rethink my position.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 07:44 PM
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And you're assuming jealousy must be bad because proponents of poly told you so.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 07:29 PM
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You cannot love anyone without a level of attachment. Even in poly this is the case. If you don't feel any attachment to a partner at all you are just fuck buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 07:28 PM
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If you're not attached to your partner what's the point of being in a relationship with them? You might as well just be fuck buddies.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 06:45 PM
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Because only in polyamory do they preach that jealousy is always the sign of a problem rather than simply a natural reaction when you're in a romantic relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 06:45 PM
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But if you feel jealous towards a partner you're sharing with another, essentially the advice is to stamp your jealousy down if other problems don't exist. I know what you're saying is the official line, but that is what it comes down to. So of course someone who believes in polyamory is accordingly going to say jealousy is always bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 06:43 PM
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I was just responding to this: if it was an every time thing with a certain guy, i would find it off-putting.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 01:51 PM
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/r/trueoffmychest unless you're an SRSer.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 01:20 PM
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Doesn't sound like a good mindset to go into a monogamous relationship with honestly.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 12:31 PM
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Nope. It applies specifically to poly relationships where you have to force yourself not to feel jealousy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 12:31 PM
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How did I know you'd say that? Haha. Thing is it's completely true. Nothing you own would exist without greed.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 12:30 PM
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Plz.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 10:39 AM
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Turns out, the more partners a man has prior to his marriage, the more likely he is to cheat on his wife. But why should TRP care? "Don't marry" might as well be their slogan.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 10:36 AM
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The only way to change this, is to encourage girls not to be selfish with their sexuality, and consider the feelings of guys they might not be turned on by in the first encounter. Be open to new things. And I agreed with you up to this. This is just ridiculous. Would you tell all men they have to bang fatties so they don't hurt their feelings?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 10:34 AM
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It's to get over the first time nerves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 10:32 AM
2

You think it's bad to be attached to your SO? In an LTR?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 10:26 AM
2

Nope. Especially not greed, greed is the driving force of ambition.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 10:21 AM
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That absolutely does matter. A non-monogamous relationship is a completely different dynamic. What I said applies 100% to monogamous relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 10:17 AM
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Are you monogamous? It's a very different game if you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 10:06 AM
1

How does getting the products his business sells made in China make him a bad candidate?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 10:03 AM
1

No I got my own business to run. I hope your wage slavery is worth it if you are literally limiting your actual personal life just to please your boss 😂😂😂
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 09:59 AM
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There are no benefits from marriage. In the UK where I live you even get the tax benefits just from cohabitation. There is zero logical reason to get married in the current system.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 09:57 AM
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There's a commonly falsely-quoted statistic that close to 50% of marriages end in divorce, but that has actually never been true. National average in Canada is 40.7% of all marriages will end in divorce before the thirteenth anniversary. Same story in the US and UK in fact, the divorce rate hovers just above 40%. Not quite as high as 50% but still not exactly great. I wouldn't take those odds at all considering what's at stake.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 01:18 AM
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College != intelligence
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 01:15 AM
1

Look at the person's forehead instead of their eyes. Looks the same to them but avoids the intense weird feeling.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 01:08 AM
1

Only if you get hammered. Which would be counter-productive yes. You want to only drink enough to get a bit buzzed/tipsy.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 01:02 AM
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Yes definitely. Jealously, like many things, becomes negative when pushed too far. But if you don't feel at least a little protective/possessive of your SO you probably don't care about them much. It's all about balance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 12:12 AM
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I'm no Trump fan but come on, it's not fair to insult a businessman for getting his shit made in China. Every single business in the fucking world does that. Your laptop and phone are probably both made in China too. I get tech from China for a quarter of the Western price and sell it on for double, sometimes triple the price I paid. That's just called business. However I do find it amusing that Trump got some of his shit made in Mexico considering how much he hates those guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 12:08 AM
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Honestly just a few compliments will do nothing but give me a little ego boost, and I assume the true is true for most women too. What does bother me though is when girls (ugly or otherwise) sexually assault me and I get told I'm the bad guy for not fucking her, which yes happened to me at uni.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/16 12:04 AM
2

Make it two years like a phone contract then you can keep getting upgrades.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 09:36 PM
3

Cocaine. (Amphetamine, MDMA, phenibut, or good old alcohol will also work.)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 09:31 PM
1

Nope, I don't get that at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 09:30 PM
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Nonsense. Most people would cringe at their teenage selves once they reach adulthood. I know I sure do. I was a socially inept faggot as a teen. I don't even know how I managed to get laid back then, I was talking about this on IRC last night. But right now I'm much better. Still a bit awkward, but I have a shitload more confidence and I make a much better impression on people once I get comfortable. And in another few years I'm sure I'll be cringing at who I am now because by then I'll be bette…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 03:13 PM
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My time in the BDSM scene taught me that there's way more submissive men than there are dominant women. Submissive men were in a very tricky position because very few women are into being dominant. This is why dominatrixes are big business. My experience in dating in general tells me most women like dominant guys to a certain degree even if they're not into BDSM. But guys, yeah I'd say they're more varied. There's a lot of guys who like dominant women as well as a lot who like submissive women. …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 03:04 PM
2

If we're talking purely about the SMV you're right. But if we're also talking about the RMV of course men care about a woman's personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 02:58 PM
1

Hey if you wanna be a pussy that's your choice, just don't call yourself "alpha."
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 12:46 PM
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And as long as the majority of people keep this mindset and never bother even trying to get anywhere other than a shitty job working for other people, the majority of people will continue to never get rich.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 12:46 PM
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I already did. I'm not going to waste my time talking to someone being deliberately evasive and obtuse.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 10:34 AM
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Damn straight this joint is illegal but I'll tell the internet all about it because no one cares about personal possession. The fact some of these people think they'll get thrown in jail for being johns is pathetic. You just know they don't really think that, they just need any excuse not to do it. Hamster hamster hamster.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 10:33 AM
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Who said it was easy? I never claimed that it was easy. It requires a high level of risk and a lot of work. What I'm saying is that there is absolutely nothing stopping anyone from taking that risk and putting that work in except their own internal limits on their behaviour. Can you argue this? I am not rich but I have a small business I am working to grow into a bigger one.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 10:30 AM
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You will never accept what I'm saying because you're hamstering away your personal responsibility so this conversation is pretty pointless.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 10:28 AM
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Lol "waaah waaah it's illegal!" What a cop-out. I'm breaking the law right now! I'm high as fuck! I'm literally announcing it on the internet because fuck all will happen! No one is getting done for possession and no one is getting done for being a john.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/16 12:14 AM
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Admittedly I am not versed in US law but in the UK there is no benefits to marriage whatsoever. Anything you can get from a marriage you can get as a cohabiting couple. Even the tax breaks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 11:56 PM
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Edit: one thing I think men should keep in mind is the effect a potential divorce would have on their mental health. While it's true that married men are happier than single men, divorced men are worse off emotionally than men who have never married at all. Yep. I've seen many divorced men become outright suicidal self-harming alcoholics. It's not a pretty sight. There's no reason to put yourself through that unless the potential benefits of the arrangement outweigh the potential risk. And in ma…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 11:23 PM
2

If you're stable you don't need a government contract to keep you together in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 11:17 PM
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No no no no no no no no no no noooooo. Not enough no's in the world. Too much risk, not enough reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 11:16 PM
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Yep. Incels like to hamster away from this with cop-outs like "but it's illegal!" but what you're saying is 100% true.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 10:57 PM
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Remember: Reddit is not real life. I have never met a woman who cares if a guy has seen a prostitute. On the other hand, plenty of women do find virgins weird past the age of 21. In any case, it's not like you're obligated to tell your future partners that you fucked a prozzie, but they will know if you're a virgin.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 10:47 PM
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I agree with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 10:44 PM
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If it was easy you wouldn't need to make an effort in the first place and if there was no risk involved everyone would do it. There needs to be a barrier to entry for success in life, whether you're talking about business or personal relationships. It ensures that the people who make an effort to get to the top reap the rewards. That's how human society works. Even if one day machines take all the jobs and capitalism subsequently dies, the same principles will live on in our social structure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 10:43 PM
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In a way, I think that someone who is FA can be said to be less of a person than your regular man or woman. This is your own inferiority complex shining through.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 10:41 PM
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Can you substantiate your claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 10:41 PM
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What was that Blogspot link where someone did this and put up screenshots? They put up a pic of an attractive guy on Tinder and literally told girls he had autism and still got positive responses.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 05:30 PM
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It was a shitposting corner, but it was his shitposting corner. Kek.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 05:14 PM
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Agreed. Especially if you just wanna bang a lot of "damaged" girls as BP keeps going on about, being positive would outright hinder you.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 05:10 PM
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The only time I've ever heard anyone say "don't dress like a slut" as anti-rape advice is from feminists complaining about it. I've literally never ever heard it from anyone else. But not walking around bad areas at night is sensible advice for both men and women whether you accept that or not. Your feels do not dictate reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 05:04 PM
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Eh in most modern marriages both parties are working. There's no expectation in Western culture for the man to be the sole provider anymore. That said I do believe marriage is a bad idea because it's a whole lot of risk for absolutely no reward. But that's because of logical risk assessment and the experience of meeting divorced men (not a pretty sight, lots of alcoholics), not because I think all women are gold digging whores. It's not like I'd agree to attach finances with my best bro either. …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 04:59 PM
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You need capital This helps but many businesses can be started small and scaled up if you reinvest all your profits. a good idea Nope, you don't need to sit around and wait for a magical epiphany of inspiration, just find something that's making money and execute it well. Most millionaires are not idea people like Steve Jobs, in fact the creative types tend to be bad at business more often than not. A middleman will make more money than most creatives. "The art of good business is being a good m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 04:53 PM
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America is the anomaly man. Your culture still has heavy puritan influence. Most of the Western world does not. Even in the UK which is closer to the US than it is to Europe in terms of culture, escorting is decriminalised. Soliciting sex is illegal but if you pay for someone's time whatever goes on is your business. Of course this may not be much comfort for those living in the US. Man, if only there were machines that could take you to other countries! Perhaps we could even make them fly and m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 04:43 PM
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From a quick google: https://www.police.uk/crime-prevention-advice/burglary/ https://home.bt.com/lifestyle/house-home/how-secure-are-your-doors-5-ways-to-burglarproof-yours-11364009029342 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/property/advice/9627884/How-to-beat-the-burglars-this-winter.html Gee, it's almost as if people are given advice on how to avoid all kinds of crimes. Crazy!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 04:35 PM
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Do I need to get a special qualification to know my new phone is more likely to be stolen if I get it out in a bad area in the middle of the night? Is there a course I have to attend?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 03:14 PM
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I don't see anyone denying rape is a horrific crime, but that doesn't change the simple fact that there are things you can do to prevent it. If anything it makes learning to prevent it even more important.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 02:34 PM
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If a guy got out his brand new iPhone in a bad area and was mugged, do you really think no one would call him an idiot for doing so? Feminists love this little fiction where rape is the only crime that can be prevented by being aware of the risks, but it simply does not hold up to reality.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 02:12 PM
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If I don't have adequate security on my house the insurance company will blame me and refuse to cover any claims. Don't act like society singles out rape as the only crime where personal responsibility can help prevent occurrences. This is nonsense.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 02:06 PM
2

Lol yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 12:45 PM
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I've actually never met an anime girl who wasn't a slut. All the ones I've met outside the escort circle were still massive sluts.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 11:59 AM
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Meh honestly it's guys who shame each other for seeing prostitutes most of the time. Women don't tend to give a fuck, other blokes take the piss because they'll say you got no game.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 11:54 AM
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Being afraid to break the law now and then doesn't seem very alpha to me. Besides, you're talking about an abnormal law in one country. Most of Europe has legalised or decriminalised prostitution. Fly to Amsterdam, have a blast.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 11:52 AM
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