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another question is do we want a society where everyone is agreeable
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 03:27 PM
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Maybe u are right, I don’t know as much about this as I thought
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:52 PM
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You have changed my mind
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:51 PM
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Yes, so can tall guys, albeit slightly harder, also women find a broad skeletal frame more attractive than a narrower skeletal frame with more muscle, that’s why women say they don’t like muscle
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:46 PM
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I agree that men are somewhat adapted to raise children, but not to the same extent as women, there’s a reason men still have higher testosterone than women, cause there is a trade off between traits that help raise children and traits that help men compete with other men for resources. Yes in the past we lived communally but in those communities women tended to raise children with other women as a group while men found resources. If a dad didn’t raise his kids they would die, but if a dad didnt…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:13 PM
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Yes, that’s why everyone is different, while some people find clutter disturbing, annoying and stressful, some people, like me find having to maintain order and being restricted on where to put things everyday stressful, I find that I thrive in chaotic environments
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:07 PM
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I haven’t found a convincing argument that debunks evopsych, all the arguments that claim to debunk it can easily be argued against, unless u know of any convincing arguments
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 12:03 PM
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If I am being stupid explain how
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:48 AM
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If the women didn’t raise the kids properly they would be more likely to die and her genes wouldn’t be passed on, therefore through natural selection what I said is correct
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 11:17 AM
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In most cases a women would have more in common with her friends than her partner, unless that partner has come from her friend group
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:52 AM
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It’s not like high body count people and virgins are segregated, the high body count guy is more attractive both physically and experience wise than the virgin, meets more girls on a daily basis than the virgin, the difference in life style is the only disadvantage the high body count guy has, like a lot of women on this sub have said women don’t care as much as sexual history as men. The high body count guy and the virgin women are on a similar league
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:47 AM
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Because I know young and fit guys who hit on them regularly and I know fat girls who talk to me about who they’ve been with, a lot of guys have no standards
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:42 AM
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As a man I would say we both make black and white claims
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:24 AM
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Your assumptions are false, soon women will outcompete men in most fields, women already dominate academia, and women are set to outearn men, women do better in higher education, and young women already outearn young men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:23 AM
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Surely her male and female friends could provide alll these things u talked about better than her partner could
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:18 AM
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Men used to be more valuable when there was physical labour jobs, now there’s only desk jobs which women are better at due to sociability and agreeableness
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:16 AM
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Tall men are already wider on average than short guys from the start
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:06 AM
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A high body count guy has a better chance of finding and attracting a virgin than a virgin, this is common sense
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 10:03 AM
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What evidence do u have that guys are only chasing top women, even fat women are getting hit on regularly and old women as well
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:59 AM
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I’m not being sexist but women are biologically adapted to be with and raise the kids and tend to the house in the past while men go out and do stuff, that’s why there is differences
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:49 AM
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When men are single they live minimalisticly and they survive
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:47 AM
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it’s a house not a hotel, why would u stress urself over these things
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/23 09:44 AM
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If I ask a women out it is because I like her, if she accepts it’s because she wants to see if she will like me, she is gonna have more options than me as well, so there’s no need to impress me, I don’t know why ur pretending that this is equal footing
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:08 PM
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I make generalising statements about men as well, just not in that comment. That statement is not pointing fingers, I’m not blaming women for anything, simply pointing out a disparity
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 09:05 PM
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She knows she doesn’t have to impress me cause she knows I already like her. If I like her a lot it’s gonna be even more challenging cause I don’t wanna fumble
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:30 PM
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I get frustrated at times but my mental health is still fine at the moment. I could step back but I kind of appreciate the chase, it gives me motivation to do a lot of stuff, I’m very goal orientated so it feel like I’m progressing each day, also if I step back I don’t think anyone’s gonna come into my life like that, from experience I can’t really rely on luck when it comes to dating, if I step back I’ll probably be invisible
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 08:16 PM
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It’s not impossible just difficult and it’s not gonna happen overnight, when I mean attractiveness I mean in all sense not just physical attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:44 PM
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Or I’ll become attractive instead
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:39 PM
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*For men who are somewhat attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:36 PM
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That’s the thing, u don’t only have to talk to them u have to impress and entertain them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 07:19 PM
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Maybe true but I feel like a lot of it is societal expectations, like if u get over the hurdles of the initial dates it will be fine
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:49 PM
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I wouldn’t call dates “spending time” with a women, as others have said its more of a job interview or performance, spending time implies mutual enjoyment
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:16 PM
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I am just making a statement on how the world is, there’s no way we can change it and there’s no reason to point fingers
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:02 PM
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If someone could raise their standards, they would, however, not everyone can
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 06:01 PM
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Men love women not dates
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:51 PM
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This is false
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:50 PM
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I thought women do these things for themselves? When women go to work do they not wear makeup
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:47 PM
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Good for them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:44 PM
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Next time I go to a meeting for the Worldwide Men’s Association I’ll bring this up to them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:41 PM
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I don’t account for the actions of all men
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:36 PM
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It’s not a rule just an observation
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:36 PM
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Have u been alone long term tho
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:36 PM
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Yes, the problem is lack of interest
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:35 PM
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I can change things and moan at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 05:34 PM
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Yeah it is
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:45 PM
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You don’t have equal power, in the extreme case if there were 100 men and 1 women you cannot say the men have equal power as the women in deciding whether to follow up dates, ur power is decided by your willingness to walk away, if u have less options u are less willing to walk away
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:38 PM
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People can complain about these things, people can complain about their job,city,friends even though they choose them
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:37 PM
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It’s not about the individual, it’s about the group, if everyone wants to pay 20 dollars for bread I can’t demand bread with 5 dollars
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 02:35 PM
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I think men prioritise comfort as well just in different ways, men do it through being lazy and half assing things
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:57 PM
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It’s less about the planning, more about constantly having to impress and entertain the girl and make sure everything is going smoothly at all times is work within itself.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:51 PM
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For men it is better to be in a shitty relationship than be alone, it’s called settling
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:49 PM
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When applying jobs companies say that their interviews are also for the interviewee to get to know the company but in reality the company is the one with all the power in most cases
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:48 PM
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Beggars can’t be choosers
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:44 PM
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Women don’t have to bring their best selfs to the date tho
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:42 PM
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Not every guy can afford to be picky tho
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:40 PM
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At the start men our more work, as the relationship goes on women put more work
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:38 PM
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It’s not a placebo but if u don’t wanna try it idc. I tried a lot of stuff before cbd and they had negligible effect. Cbd only reduces anxiety to a more manageable level doesn’t get rid of it. When I’m on it I can still feel nervous but my voice is no longer shaky and my overthinking reduces. If ur that anxious u wanna seek medical attention, smoking weed is gonna make u more anxious in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/23 01:35 PM
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Nah buy cbd by itself, you can get gummies as well. You don’t wanna become dependent tho, use it sparingly before you take it ask urself do u really need it and if u do take it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:15 PM
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Friends are not a substitute for a girl friend
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:06 PM
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Theres a way, take cbd oil
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:03 PM
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Yes fat cause higher estrogen and estrogen causes higher fat
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 10:00 PM
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The nerd only is attractive after they get a high paying job
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:59 PM
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I’ve never seen such honesty before
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:54 PM
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Escorts is more like masturbation than sex, no real intimacy
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:50 PM
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It’s the best time to be an unattractive women, but I guess it still sucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:48 PM
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It’s true they are a minority, but it still happens enough for me to notice, and most people have problems at the end of the day
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:23 AM
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Yes, they are heavily questioned, doesn’t mean they don’t still do it
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:02 AM
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She’s not attractive or feminine or intelligent
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:01 AM
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Believe it or not many redpillers see her as a joke as well and many “normal” men don’t like outspoken women either
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 09:00 AM
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As a college guy, i would say they go for that in some capacity
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:54 AM
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Did u want to have sex with young males
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/23 08:53 AM
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You realise there are a lot of online spaces dedicated for men to improve themselves to get women, it’s just that once they get the women they find no need to put any more effort
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:50 PM
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How can you give up the need to be loved, isn’t that a biological instinct
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:47 PM
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Everyone’s different
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:40 PM
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Low self esteem and shame will cause people to off themselves what’s surprising about that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:38 PM
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Men are not the same as women
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:31 PM
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Ur not a man in their position so you wouldn’t understand
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:30 PM
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It’s more an issue of low self esteem and shame due to not having a partner then wanting a partner in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:29 PM
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It’s not particularly much better but everyone puts something on a pedestal in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:22 PM
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Men like telling people the honest truth no matter the harm
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:20 PM
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A lot of people here are autistic tho
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:19 PM
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He’s more putting the relationship on the pedestal than the potential person themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:17 PM
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I think guys are objectively less sensitive then women, especially guys from my background, but obviously I’ll speak to men and women differently
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 11:29 AM
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Unless your talking to another guy, then you can talk about a lot of things without reprurcussions or causing offense
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:46 AM
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Women are more agreeable then men, their not lying
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:45 AM
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You know society views it as wrong, doesn’t necessarily mean society is correct, gay people used to hide being gay
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:40 AM
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False
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:38 AM
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Gross generalisation, how many gen z men do u find in gym not at playing video games and on no fap
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:36 AM
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Men are famous for putting little effort into a lot of things actually
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/23 09:33 AM
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Personally if the exam was not challenging whatsoever to the child I wouldn’t say the child has achieved anything, there are people on this planet who only have to say yes to invitations of sex to have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:20 PM
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I see what ur saying but I would describe that as a talent more than an achievement, people that “achieve” things purely out of natural characteristics with minimal effort are not viewed as achievers, most people with talent would have to also put in effort to achieve, but this is not one of those cases
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 09:09 PM
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Achievements need to be hard, if it doesn’t require effort it’s not an achievement, there are some rare cases, I’ve met girls that brag about fucking famous rappers so I guess that might be somewhat impressive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:59 PM
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I don’t personally shame women for it but having sex is simply not an achievement for women
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:52 PM
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I disagree, many people allow their psychological problems to ruin their lives, that’s the nature of a psychological problem
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:09 PM
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And guys that CANT sleep around ruin their mental health worrying and stressing about how they are gonna get laid, probably suffering from low esteem as a result, u are only looking at it from one side
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:06 PM
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I’ve already answered the question, sex and relationships are important to them but there are psychological challenges which would stop them from working towards this, both can be true at the same time
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:03 PM
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I enjoy doing a lot of self improvement like going to the gym, but there’s a lot of stuff that I’d rather not be doing it just makes my life more difficult since I’m not a high maintenance guy and I don’t need a lot of money or anything
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 08:01 PM
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human nature, people will only put time/effort into things which they believe will have a decent likelihood of reward, if not they will give up
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:31 PM
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by improving for women you are self-improving tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:30 PM
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this is an oversimplification, people like certainty, people generally do not put years of time/energy into something without a decent likelihood of reward, this is human nature for the most part
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:28 PM
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I’ll be happy with a women I’m attracted to and compatible with, that’s all that matters
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:21 PM
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Is it incorrect tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:14 PM
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having sex is an achievement for men, its not really bad
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:12 PM
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Women are not attracted to virgins unless the women herself is a virgin
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:11 PM
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false, Man 2 has a better chance he is more experience with women so has more options
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:10 PM
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on average men who can sleep around with lots of women are probably happier than men who cant
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 07:07 PM
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This is the long term goal I’m working on, there are many challenges to this as well, people tend to keep their social circles to themselves and don’t mix social circles much, except at house parties which happen once a year at most, there was a house party I went where I flirted with a few girls and later after the party I found out one of them liked me despite that party being outnumbered by guys (it was a girl’s party btw), however, we are never gonna see each over again till maybe next year …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 05:39 PM
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im not necessarily looking for a hookup either i just wish i can be more genuine around women i dont like being ungenuine
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 04:00 PM
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I’d wish they’d decide quicker, but it is what it is I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:22 PM
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Most of them are saying all this stuff but they’ve never considering how someone can possibly apply this stuff in practice, how impractical all these suggestions are, if it was this easy guys would hang round coffee shops all the time, it would become like nightclubs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:21 PM
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The friends I make are rarely introducing me to any of their male/female friends let alone their sisters, until and if they host a party, which not everyone does, I haven’t even met the childhood friend groups of a lot of my closest friends, only the friends I have that host parties, maybe it’s a cultural difference
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 12:05 PM
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Because it would expose my weaknesses, if u are to weak u become a liability, friends won’t want u by their side anymore they would rather cut u off, my male friendships are formed over usefulness more than empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 11:55 AM
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Ok I understand ur point I just don’t agree with it, ur saying it is objectifying, she may feel objectified but that’s her problem, but it’s not objectification, if someone said I was attractive I would not have reason to feel objectified, this is just a theoretical argument tho, in real life I refrain from complimenting the girl, I prefer teasing her it keeps the conversation going from her side as she loves to defend herself, it’s easier to keep the convo flowing cause I’ll quickly run out of …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:40 AM
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Why, so the guy can wait around for no reason waiting for the possibility of the women to come around, sounds so tiresome
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:09 AM
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this sounds like something written in a fiction book then something that occurs in real life, in real life, even the first step is improbable, what chess guy is introducing you to his sister, under what context, its clear chess club is a dead end for the guy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 03:08 AM
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you can have friends and interests without having romantic opportunities
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:55 AM
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Supply and demand, too many guys looking to hit on women, not enough women receptive to it, therefore the places people are suggesting to find receptive women are either:, have high competition and bad male:female ratio, or are hard to get into
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:53 AM
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I’m not complimenting her as an object, I am complimenting her as a stranger who might be a potential partner, unless ur a guy into fashion or not niche sub genres then her outfit is of very little interest to u therefore it’s fake to be complimenting her on it, only in rare circumstances is her outfit of any interest. It’s not like I approached her cause of her outfit, although I have rejected women who I don’t like their fashion,
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:51 AM
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this is simple theres no place to meet women because there is a lack of women to hit on
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:46 AM
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so guys have to pretend like their not interested in a women and just stay in the friend zone or "acquantance" zone
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:45 AM
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yes people who scream "hobbies" oversimplify the process, this aint some movie
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:43 AM
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why would you not go on a date with a potential partner?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:42 AM
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guys just wanna get girls its not complicated
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:36 AM
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dragging your friends, some of which may already have girlfriends to these "events" to meet women, on a regular enough basis, is another challenge within itself
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:33 AM
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not everyone is interested in trying new things tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:32 AM
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his fears are not invalid if u live in a big city where women are on high alert they will try and avoid any contact, literally a women dropped her card and i was literally like "excuse me" "excuse me you dropped this" and she just kept on walking faster and faster like they pretend they dont hear u. also seemingly innocent stuff like asking a women for direction is common pua tactics so i think a lot of women have wisened up to that, this aint the 2000s
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:28 AM
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clubs and bars are all sausage fests so ur wasting ur breath
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:20 AM
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guys use that line because its more genuine
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:18 AM
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you miss every shot you dont shoot
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:17 AM
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how else are u suppossed to approach without entering her persosnal space??
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:15 AM
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most guys dont wait for vibe they see a girl they like the look of and moves to her
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:08 AM
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what if you are already friends with their friends?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:07 AM
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if i cut out people who i couldnt be vulnerable with i wouldnt have anyone left except my family
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:02 AM
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I thought we were on the same page. Getting girls is hard, getting girls without friends is even harder, not impossible but, social proof is needed to get her to trust you, having friends around you makes u approach more confidently, can’t even get into some clubs as a solitary male, I never said the friends were pussyblocking, the friends have no interest in approaching meeting/approaching women, so ur on ur own
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 02:01 AM
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the only person i can truly be vulnerable with are my parents, no reconsideration is possible, its not practical to cut off all your friends
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:55 AM
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I wonder whether most women would agree
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:53 AM
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u suggesting guys approach at whole foods
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:51 AM
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education and career doesnt mean shit, most guys do these things cause they expect reward
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:50 AM
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You are partially true but not completely true because you can be socially normal but still have a friend group that is not good for dating if your friendgroup is full of guys who do not regularly meet women either.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:48 AM
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dating is easier for women statistically
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:44 AM
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its easier for women then men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:41 AM
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surely going to bars bookstores and coffeeshops to approach women are not "normal interactions"
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:40 AM
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Unfortunately a lot of people do not have the willpower/motivation to spend time/energy over years building up something that may not result in success after those years, it’s the minority of people that do have that willpower, so ur advice isn’t very realistic
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:39 AM
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do you give signals
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:35 AM
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guys are defo not hooking you up with their sisters aunts or cousins, if that happens its probably against your friends wishes. i dont know what sort of women are agreeing to blind dates as well
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:29 AM
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the thing is it doesnt work because some guys feel friendships cannot replace lack of relationships, and building the right social circle takes years
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:27 AM
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are u a guy?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:19 AM
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sex is sex at the end of the day, nothing more to it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/10/23 01:18 AM
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I feel like this is kinda true in some sense, but a bit exaggerated , it’s true that a girl will probably have a low barrier to entry to a guy, if the girl isn’t ugly, it just means the guy has to provide more value to the group, he might have to be funnier or something
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:17 PM
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I just think it’s the wrong place to be looking for support
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 02:09 PM
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I enjoy being around women and talking to them, I said my experience would be better if we enjoyed stuff in common, the main thing I like is going gym but I’m young so not many girls my age at my gym and they do cardio and I know nothing bout cardio, music i listen to is rap/drill music, i like programming, I like table tennis, the only hobby I can count is climbing, I know some girls my age do climbing
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:45 AM
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Until those friends are introverts/virgins who don’t have other girls in their circle as well
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:29 AM
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I don’t think everyone finds art interesting, especially not guys
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 09:27 AM
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Unfortunately when it comes to dating advice a lot of guys want advice that improves their chances now than in 2-3 years, since that 2-3 years of knowing ur situation can’t change is rough, also befriending people will be more difficult when u are bitter about being single
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:32 AM
4

Not young men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:26 AM
2

Humans aren’t completely rational, humans don’t really chose to give up, if u are bitter about not having romantic success u gonna find it more difficult to build the social circle, it’s more of a psychological issue than anything else
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:24 AM
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The only problem is that if u don’t wanna fuck her u likely don’t wanna fuck most of her friends either, probably all round similar levels of attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:20 AM
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The difference is some people genuinely don’t like having large social circles so if they do build a large social circle they are befriending people for the sole purpose of tryna date, which doesn’t lead to very good dynamics in the long run
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:18 AM
2

Yes unfortunately in certain social groups the women might be less attractive than the guys or vice versa
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:17 AM
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You misrepresented his point tho, I agree with him, my music, hobbies, interests are very male dominated, it’s like I don’t enjoy interactions with women, I just prefer interactions where we actually have a few interests in common, it’s so hard to find it’s basically impossible
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:14 AM
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This is like the best case scenario, in real life the hard part would be progressing from just hobby friends to friends outside the hobby, doesn’t always happen
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:10 AM
3

It has 30% truth I think, people are just suspicious of guys till u randomly mention u have a girlfriend or u simply know a girl
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:06 AM
3

Sometimes having girls in the group slows down the group, often if I’m in an all guy group we can move from girl to girl in the club, but with girls in tow we get bogged down since they are not interested in moving like that and may find it distasteful, girls sometimes actively avoid meeting others when they go out cause they get too much attention
/r/PurplePillDebate30/09/23 12:04 AM
3

Where, excluding above 30s
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:59 PM
2

False, the only teenage couples I see walking around are attractive guy/attractive girl
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:57 PM
1

What purpose do men have in modern society tho? Without chasing women men would be directionless
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:54 PM
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Why would u expect people who are depressed be supportive tho
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:50 PM
2

Older women don’t want younger men in general
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:41 PM
1

U cant date someone u haven’t met
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:39 PM
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Knew a guy with 6 fuck buddies , he’d always slander the women behind their backs
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 11:26 PM
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Yeah it’s more complicated than just attractiveness, for example I find native white guys have some success cold approaching foreign women in my city, they are probably more receptive to it
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:22 PM
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Personally for me it’s not worry that is the main issue, it’s just that personally I tend to be outspoken once I’m comfortable with someone and say some disagreeable stuff, it’s calm when I’m with guys but when I was younger it would always backfire around women so I learned to tone it down around them
/r/PurplePillDebate29/09/23 10:19 PM
2

They wouldn’t view it that way in those cultures, even the women in those cultures wouldn’t feel like they have been harrassed, take it as u will
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:20 PM
2

Even a women who wanted a serious relationship would see it as a red flag unless she’s religious, why u lying to him
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:11 PM
1

Certain People too sensitive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:09 PM
1

Men tend to be less swayed by the opinion of the group
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:07 PM
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Make more social spaces in society where men and women can meet 2. Make a drug that makes women more horny, obviously women would voluntarily take it, I’m not sure whether they would take it 3. Injecting testosterone and growth hormone into boys from a young age to make them more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:57 PM
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Same
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:42 PM
2

But there are some guys that don’t go gym and still have lean muscle, especially some black guys
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:39 PM
1

Height is a very big factor when it comes to it, being muscular is way more of a benefit for tall guys than short guys, although it’s harder for tall guys to achieve
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:37 PM
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Ur wrong, it’s the opposite way round cause most of the women I’m competing for are single, so I’m not competing for anyone else
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:36 PM
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Allow him, it seems he enjoys the gym anyways what’s the harm
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:32 PM
2

I think most guys who started out early in their teens started for girls, then slowly progressed to doing it for themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:31 PM
2

Still, the muscular tall dude does better than the skinny tall dude
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:24 PM
2

some of male doctors might be interested in the McDonald’s girl but not have the right personality to attract her
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:15 PM
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I’m black as well, I can say that we tend to be more forward and outspoken culturally, while a white women would ignore and run off if approached on the street I’ve seen black women be genuinely receptive if they like the guy, they tend to be less timid
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 10:08 PM
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I prefer to glaze over her eyes slowly, not too harshly that it looks like I’m staring, while she is looking back, her facial expression will change subtly, I used that to see whether she might be interested
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:54 PM
1

If u grew up in a black majority area, you’d know there’s different cultural standard for this stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:41 PM
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Amongst certain demographics the stopping women on the street thing can work, depends on the culture
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:36 PM
1

Guys lie as well tho
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:33 PM
3

There’s 2 type of crazy dudes, the quiet weird ones and the extroverted charismatic ones
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:32 PM
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From experience I’ve seen cold approach work for some guys, but a lot of it depends on the type of guy u are and the type of women u approach, I agree it wouldn’t work for most guys without serious luck/skill
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 09:26 PM
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It depends what environment u live in, if ur in a low socioeconomic area then the attractive drug addict would have an advantage, he would probably have better charisma than the “good guy”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:10 AM
3

All dad bods are muscular and fat, they aren’t skinny fat
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:05 AM
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Whether u swipe on the top or bottom 50% it’s a very low match rate anyways, no point strategising at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 11:04 AM
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I’ve tried being friends first, it wouldn’t say that it completely doesn’t work, it just has very low average returns compared to the time u put into it. It’s impractical and unrewarding. Also I don’t know why u are ranting bout the characters on this sub, as if u come across as well adjusted in the comment u make either
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/23 12:33 AM
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For attracting women it’s not really about having muscle, it’s about having a big frame
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:21 PM
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I speak to a lot of the teenagers at gym they are into Andrew tate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 11:20 PM
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Women are not born fat
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:21 PM
1

Yes I’m young and hanging out girls my age is having to listen to long discussions on things they seen on TikTok and movies they watched on Netflix
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:17 PM
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It’s better to follow the advice that works than the advice that just sounds good
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 04:16 PM
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Being real is the opposite of what works when it comes to attracting women, that’s why most guys act fake, women tend to be easily turned off
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 09:02 AM
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If I like a women from the beginning why would I repress my feelings and allow myself to be friendzoned
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/23 08:53 AM
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If I choose to be friends with a women I have already ruled out dating her, cause I usually flirt with women I like from the get-go
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 11:13 PM
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Who’s fault is it tho
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:47 PM
3

A general conversation or a conversation about the topics u want to talk about instead?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:41 PM
3

So ur saying i have to circle round a women for 3 weeks to see if she’s interested
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:35 PM
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Yeah I’m not a very experience orientated person, I’m not materialistic either but I’d prefer to spend money and time on things I can keep compared to things I’ll forget about
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 02:08 PM
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I’m glad ur enjoying it
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 01:24 PM
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Difference between male and female friendships
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:57 PM
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It’s hard to find a women who is not obsessed about travelling, I swear I don’t know what they see in it, when I’m speaking to them I have to pretend that I like travelling when I don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:54 PM
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Not all of us can pick and choose what we want
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:47 PM
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I think the most comfortable life is just doing what I want to do. I am a very energetic person so the only occupations I would like are physical jobs but those don’t pay well, Id prefer to be in a small friend circle than a large one, I don’t care bout holidays or fancy restaurants, the only motivation that can make me leave my comfort zone and put in hard work in things I’d rather not be doing is women
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 12:43 PM
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Don’t really care about doing well for myself I would just live life how I want to live, all these achievements don’t make me any more happier, I don’t need much money to do the things I want to do in life, like what does doing well for yourself even mean
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 10:00 AM
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Why would I be motivated by anything else, no one relies on me for anything
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:39 AM
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She may not stop wanting sex but if she’s not used to being verbal asked she may view u asking the question as timid and non-dominant. I can tell u there are women that have never been asked explicitly outside liberal cultures, and I don’t nor why a women would be too worried about missing out on sex when she can get it anytime
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/23 09:37 AM
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Do u have flaws/ red flags?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:50 PM
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They need to phase out anti depressants then
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:38 PM
2

So what can I even provide a women these days anyways, caring for her emotional needs didn’t even work
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:37 PM
2

What male priveleges
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:33 PM
2

But somehow only good looking men have abundance of options
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:31 PM
1

It’s true for me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:28 PM
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Are u not scared that verbally asking will turn her off?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:24 PM
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If everyone agrees killing is wrong, why is murder an issue. I doubt the people who rape care about right/wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 11:23 PM
1

Redpill people tend to be from lower socioeconomic backgrounds
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:51 PM
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These days a lot of women ain’t trying to date tho
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:48 PM
2

So what are right opportunities then
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:43 PM
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Unfortunately if u are an introvert and want to meet women u have to do things u won’t enjoy, I realised this one time, before I used to only take invitations if I thought I would like it , now I don’t turn down any invitation, if u do it a lot as habit it will become more natural to u
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:38 PM
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People used to be born in a community tho
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:34 PM
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Ok maybe not men I hang out with, I’m a younger guy anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:20 PM
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Wasn’t looking for pump and dump
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:14 PM
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Never said she doesn’t matter, who she is doesn’t really matter unless I know she likes me first, can’t afford to be picky with women, whoever she is I’ll probably try to make it work anyways if she likes me
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:13 PM
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Who cares who she is anyway
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:16 AM
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Women do not want equals unfortunately
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:14 AM
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Those millions of men probably find any other women attractive as well, they probably just have low standards
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/23 12:04 AM
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Wasn’t me who said that…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 11:52 PM
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I am not saying feminists believe that men are oppressors but I am saying that most feminists believe in a lot of things, e.g. men shouldn’t approach, that have nothing to do with equality
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 08:02 PM
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If that’s ur definitions, then radical feminism is mainstream feminism at this point
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:37 PM
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They just make it more difficult
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:35 PM
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Most women are smart enough to know when ur just tryna move to them, cause their guards are up unlike men
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:33 PM
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What should I do if u don’t get these signs
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:29 PM
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True, a lot of women have other priorities
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:25 PM
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That’s minor, just hope u don’t see her again
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:24 PM
1

Where and what’s their numbers
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:21 PM
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Would u consider taking substances to eliminate sexual desire
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 07:17 PM
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I find these women online but never in real life
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:52 PM
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I know a guy every time I go clubbing with him I swear he invents 10 new names each time, I’m not even sure of his real name myself
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 06:50 PM
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I tried that before ended up friendzoned
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/23 09:27 AM
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If anyone can imagine it it would be me, there’s a big gap between what people would accept I can be and what I really want to be
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 11:47 PM
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I can’t be truly happy either way but settling is more happy than being alone personally for me. A lot of guys pretend to like things they don’t like to attract women so that’s pretty normal. A lot of guys agree with women on topics that they don’t actually believe just to placate her, I do it all the time outside of dating anyways. Just because someone wouldn’t love the true me doesn’t mean I can’t love them. I think we just have a difference in perspective here we may have to agree to disagree…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 11:30 PM
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Maybe this is miscommunication, in this context I see settling as chosing a partner that u cannot be yourself around
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:58 PM
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U want true love, I want true love, but some of us can’t get what we want, . If I didn’t have to settle I wouldn’t, if u are not prepared to settle than u do not care about having a partner more than me,since I am prepared to change myself to get what i desire
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:54 PM
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That is barely a handbook, it is mostly information on how to be a good partner but not how to get a women to be interested in you
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:47 PM
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There’s no new handbook to attract women in the modern day tho
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:20 PM
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Being a decent human being doesn’t guarantee anything either
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:19 PM
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YOUR life doesn’t revolve around women, everyone is different, there are some men’s lives that do, a lot of this is innate biological differences
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:16 PM
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There is happiness in settling if u find it important to have a partner, u may not see it cause u don’t particularly care about having a partner, but it’s there for some people. It’s easy to pretend as long as u want if u realise that u have no alternatives for finding a partner therefore finding happiness. You’d be surprised at the lengths people can go when they have their hands tied, if u have never had ur hands tied it may seem unfathomable
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 10:07 PM
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And ur problems aren’t?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:47 PM
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Unfortunately settling is a necessity for some, so it’s in ur best interests to find happiness in settling, I don’t think I’ll ever find a women compatible with my personality/interests, so if I don’t wanna be single I have to change myself, masking is exhausting but not impossible from personal experience, a mask can slip off but can be quickly put back on again
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:40 PM
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Do guys need more “friends”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:24 PM
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What if the person you truly are is incompatible with almost every women
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:23 PM
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Better incompatible than single
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:20 PM
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Changing ur whole personality is technically within ur control
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:18 PM
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Not exactly controversial
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:16 PM
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Why do u tell the women u get few matches tho
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:12 PM
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Red pill tells men to focus on their social skills as well
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:06 PM
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Loads of guys that are skinny that struggle
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 09:02 PM
1

The numbers game is time and money
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:50 PM
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If there were no more women at these places how many men would continue to go there
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:48 PM
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Is there a way to genuinely be interested in other peoples lives cause faking it is exhausting and boring
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:43 PM
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They have above average iq but not high iq
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:13 PM
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It takes time to be accomplished at something tho
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:12 PM
1

There are girls that switch off when I say I do CS
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:10 PM
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If u had experience in these environments u wouldn’t be surprised
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 08:07 PM
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The amount of sex a guy has is decided by what is limited by what is available, not what the guy wants
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:45 PM
2

How do you be more present in the moment
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/23 07:42 PM
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how would you want men to approach women for relationships in clubs, even if a guy wanted a relationship how would the girl view a man looking for a relationship in a club
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:12 PM
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a normal women doesnt want the attention tho
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:09 PM
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this is absolutely false, working out doesnt make you naturally attractive to many women, especially if you are short or small framed
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 02:05 PM
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his strategy could easily have backfired tho if you had no interest
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:59 PM
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i agree with what you say but theres also the truth that attractive people are seen as being more charasmatic, more confiedent, having high status automatically due to halo effect so it would be slightly harder for less attractive guys
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:56 PM
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i think hes talking more about socializing with strangers or mere acquantences in social space than with your friends
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:48 PM
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hpw does a man reasonably create value in a reasonable amount of time
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:44 PM
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how many men only had sex once or twice in the last tho?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:42 PM
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attractive women have less casual sex than average women
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:16 PM
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why would she be down for it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:15 PM
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nah most guys go gym tho, especially young guys
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 01:14 PM
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some people are able to live a life of delusion and it probably brings some benefits, however some cant fool themselves
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/23 12:54 PM
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Yeah hopefully that comes about but in the meantime I’m working on becoming an extrovert and putting myself in all these clubbing and party situations, fake it till I make it
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:24 AM
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I agree it’s not all women but I’m young and from a low socioeconomic background so I’ll probably encounter more of that, I don’t really have much options rn, I would be compatible with more introverted girls but they are not outside meeting guys so much
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/23 12:01 AM
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In what circumstance would u ever tell a women about ur inexperience, u must be really trusting
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 11:45 PM
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There are lots of women who would not care about experience, but there are also a lot of women who would care. They wouldn’t worry about whether a guy has slept with someone, they would assume he has slept with someone until they see signs of his inexperience, on which case they would lose attraction. U focus on relationship sex, but if ur having sex for the first time with ur partner and u flop due to lack of experience it’s likely she may leave u in the early stages.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 11:42 PM
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if u have sparse options u cant really be picky unfortuntely
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 10:40 PM
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who has children or not was a decision of a small amount of men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 10:06 PM
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war and dangerous things were done to get women tho, mens testosterone increase around women and in hunter gatherer tribes they invade the other tribes to take their women as wives
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 10:05 PM
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i agree with you, however i think a lot of people do not think logically when making these type of decisions therefore having experience as a man will give you more success than having potential, not everyone sees potential
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 10:01 PM
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she wont answer...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 09:53 PM
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"willingess to learn" is more valuable, but having experience is more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 09:50 PM
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Idk admittedly I always end up at bad clubs, the male:female ratio is wack, but from what I’ve seen no girl gets left out, even the female dj is getting hit on
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 10:49 AM
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Might is acceptable when it comes to things easily replaceable and not completely necessary but when it comes to things integral to our lives maybe is not good enough. If having a partner a family and raising kids is important to you, maybe being able to find a date is not satisfactory
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 01:04 AM
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If u say so I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 01:00 AM
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All women get attention at clubs tho, i have seen the most unattractive girls rejecting men left and right at clubs
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:52 AM
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Getting harder in this day and age, still trying tho
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:47 AM
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Yes that’s why warfare was somewhat beneficial it got rid of excess men
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:44 AM
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Men are forced to take risks for the most part
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:38 AM
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Men are forced to take risks for the most part
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:37 AM
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Men are forced to take risks for the most part
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:37 AM
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Is twilight and those sort of books not modern romance novels?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:34 AM
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People like to switch between these 2 terms whenever it benefits them, no shade tho
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:30 AM
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It’s not black and white there is both nature and nurture
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:21 AM
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A lot of personality is genetic, which would incline you towards certain ideas
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:21 AM
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People do say that tho? A lot
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:13 AM
2

I find Jacked and Stacked on YouTube good
/r/PurplePillDebate07/09/23 12:10 AM
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Guys are more introverted than women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:56 PM
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That’s why I try clubs a lot, one of the few environments you can actually be social with strangers left
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:42 PM
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Unfortunately might isn’t good enough for some people if dating and sex is important to you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:36 PM
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There are a lot of people who are not motivated to work on themselves without reward
/r/PurplePillDebate06/09/23 11:30 PM
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I wasn’t confused, just needed to clarify that you would expect the 50th percentile man to have less than 4-7 partners
/r/PurplePillDebate01/09/23 12:01 AM
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It is incorrect that 4-7 couldn’t be a median because the median and mean both take the form of a number, or in this case a numerical range, therefore any value that represents a mean could also represent a median but asides from that the point I am trying to make is if the 4-7 is mean value and we assume there is a skew towards the lower end of the distribution in terms of amount of partners, then you would an expect the 50th percentile man to have less than 4-7 partners
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:49 PM
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So why don’t you answer my question, is it mean or median, because some people refer to median or mean when talking about the average
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:36 PM
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Do you know what mean and median is?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:29 PM
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When you say average life time partners is 4-7 is that a mean or median
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:23 PM
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Yes I am just saying that just because someone is struggling to date doesn’t mean they are below average, there may be other factors involved, like being in the wrong environment
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:21 PM
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Doesn’t change my argument, women are not increasingly single because they are not attractive enough but because they chose to be single, and even though women in the past didn’t have a choice, they were still attractive to the men that they were forced to be with
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:19 PM
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For example someone may be average but be a racial minority in the specific neighbourhood they live in meaning they don’t have dating success. What I am saying that being average is not a prerequisite for attraction
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:39 PM
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I am saying there is clearly an IMBALANCE between men and women in ability to find a partner and reproduce historically. Are u arguing that these women would have not been able to reproduce if it wasn’t the cultural norm to marry them off?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:37 PM
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I think ur speaking from an outlier, since you have chosen a place with a very low level of social mobility, there are many other places with poverty where there are decent levels of social mobility, where different social classes live in the same town/city so there is room for social mobility
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:35 PM
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yes, however you cannot deny that there is some level of social mobility in society, and people from the same background end up in different places in life, so it is an incorrect statement to say your social outcomes have nothing to do with your natural traits
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:24 PM
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what is the age of the men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:18 PM
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by average do you mean median or mean
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:15 PM
1

what about race
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:14 PM
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natural selection explains everything, the benefits of women choosing thugs and snakes is that thugs and snakes tend to have more children and tend to dominate in competition with other men, and tend to be better at seducing women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:07 PM
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dont you think there are personality/intelligence traits associated with likelilhood of social mobility
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 10:03 PM
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then why did most men in history fail to reproduce but most women did reproduce, isnt there an imbalance
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:59 PM
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what about a man that goes gym regularly
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:56 PM
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hourglass women probably get more attention but it is never a deciding factor, no women has been rejected cause she aint hourglass, so i wouldnt call this pickiness just preference
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:56 PM
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whether you are bothered to get a women off is not really a question of attraction surely
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:50 PM
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if i were being cynical, the lifting playing field is very unequal for men, some men start with way broader shoulders than others, people have different capacities for building muscles and short men have less to benefit from lifting https://psypost.org/2023/01/interactions-between-height-and-shoulder%E2%80%91to%E2%80%91hip-ratio-influence-womens-perceptions-of-mens-attractiveness-and-masculinity-64769#:~:text=Heterosexual%20women%20prefer%20men%20who%20are%20taller%20and,to%20have%20the%20same%2…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:47 PM
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the top few percentage of people with the most economic,social power in society leans male, (politics is almost equal), but below that both men and women have relatively equal influence in culture and media, so it would be a stretch to call current society male led ok, i agree with you on the premise that the patriarchy has reduced to the point current society today cannot be considered male led anymore i think men are only uncomfortable because the sexual attention is homosexual, due to homopho…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:29 PM
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the top few percentage of people with power in society leans male (with an increasing number of women) but below that both men and women have relatively equal influence in culture and media, so it would be a stretch to call current society male led
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 09:19 PM
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Weird ass theory, if this society was supposedly male led men would be sexualised since it benefits men
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:28 PM
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21
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 07:22 PM
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yes same
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:43 PM
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Depends what u mean by success, most bullies would have traits like dark triad, extroversion, confidence, aggression, status, even physical advantages which would probably help in dating success, if you think the bully would be the loser than what does that make the person being bullied, an even worse loser. I think in order to bully you must be above someone else in terms of status. The bully is probably a loser in other ways but dating probably won’t be one of them
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:57 AM
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I don’t know what ur trying to say
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 11:48 AM
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Even if women cannot get the men they want, they can still get a higher calibre man then they would have been able to get in the past, therefore their value has increased. Women are not men and a decent amount of them do not prioritise getting in a relationship, a lot of women are single by choice and are seemingly satisfied with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:59 AM
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I am saying men aren’t chasing women because they cannot meet women’s standards today, and men are trying as hard or even harder to woo women just in different ways in terms of appearance, fashion, lifestyle, personality, height and career the standards are higher
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:33 AM
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men are dropping out at increasing rate because the competition and demand for women is too high, and men didnt end chivalry, feminism allowed men to get away with not being chivalrous, therefore feminism ended chivalry
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 01:06 AM
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womens value have increased tho, because guys are after them more
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:38 AM
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i would argue that average women are not average since they are more useful and valuable in society today
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:35 AM
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she shouldnt really, not her problem to solve, she aint charity
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:33 AM
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they can reject anyway they like just dont waste time, like ill forget about it next week anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:31 AM
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its not about what women claim to want, it is about what works with women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:26 AM
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men cannot do what they want since their goal is to appeal to women
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:23 AM
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*some
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:23 AM
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yeah people here lack naunce, there are attractive masculine traits and attractive feminine traits for a guy to have
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:21 AM
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the bullies were not necessarily successful because they were bullies, correlation does not equal causation
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/23 12:20 AM
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I go clubbing a lot, I like dancing but I don’t like drinking, and i need to maxmise my chances anyways
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:08 PM
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Ok maybe you are older then, I would say it’s definitely easier for younger women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:56 PM
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if ur a women surely you can find guys anywhere tho
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:29 PM
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the difference is that in real life you will find most women are not interested in dating
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:26 PM
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*if you meet someone in person* most women out and about are not looking for anything with men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:24 PM
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what do you think the solution is then, where can a guy get the most success
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:22 PM
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yes isnt the large majority of nightlife just guys roaming around looking for a girl
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:20 PM
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women go outside more than men do yes, however, any social gathering where men can meet women will be dominated by men, since when women go out they mainly only hang out with their friends, you cant really meet them then.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:10 PM
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yes going to some clubs is more demotivating than dating apps in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 02:07 PM
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when i am talking about young men i am talking 20-25
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 01:47 PM
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https://psypost.org/2023/01/interactions-between-height-and-shoulder%E2%80%91to%E2%80%91hip-ratio-influence-womens-perceptions-of-mens-attractiveness-and-masculinity-64769#:~:text=Heterosexual%20women%20prefer%20men%20who%20are%20taller%20and,to%20have%20the%20same%20effect%20for%20shorter%20men.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 01:44 PM
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There are women who don’t want to teach a guy anything and would be turned off if he was inexperienced, obviously not all women but still
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 03:15 AM
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No one cares about height is quite a bold statement, and a lot of short men look like they have broad shoulders but if you put them against a tall person you will see the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 01:16 AM
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what about young men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/23 12:00 AM
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false
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:19 PM
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men are not biologically or culturally evolved to do household tasks, its just not something we do, the men of the past would rather do all that dangerous and difficult stuff than wash dishes cause they are men
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:17 PM
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thats why men need to make more money to compensate
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:14 PM
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there is no way for men to prepare tho
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:13 PM
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what can be done to help men focus outside of women, there is no alternative, men cant just get dogs and be satisfied
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:12 PM
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WW2 soldiers were short
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:07 PM
1

the average man is clueless cause he cant practice
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 11:03 PM
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men probably want to be wined and dined as well but you cant have everything in life can you
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:58 PM
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i dont think there is any reasonable substitution
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 10:51 PM
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i dont know why we would assume men and women are equally attractive when this is not true for all animal species
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/23 01:36 AM
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Same with any immigrant group except Muslims and black people cause their women tend to date inside, especially harder since male immigrants tend to outnumber females, only option is to go back home marry then bring over if you can
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:37 PM
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Increased competition for immigration is good for large corporations but bad for the working class, however the UK doesn’t really have much bargaining power anyway to keep these corporations since the UK has increased competition from the rest of the world
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:32 PM
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Good answer
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 12:14 PM
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Women have a higher level of disgust response than men and have higher levels of social conformity than men
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 11:18 AM
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how are most guys refusing to socialize, a bit of a stretch
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/23 01:14 AM
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the fact that child marriages were so common in the past (and in some places in the modern day) suggests that this applies to a sizeable amount of men
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 05:36 PM
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the fact that the man had attraction in the first place could suggest that the OP's claim is correct, i think you are both correct, the question is what does the phrase "men are attracted to under 18s" actually mean
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 04:39 PM
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ur arguing 2 different thigns, just cause u dont make a move for moral reasons doesnt mean ur not attracted
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 02:28 PM
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ill try and show some genuine interest, but thats why i prefer an introverted women, who doesnt tell me about the behaviours, drama and conflicts of over 100+ people i dont care about
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 01:05 AM
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its gay because guys tend to not to view fashion from aesthetics but as functionality or a way to increase status
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:50 AM
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how many girls working round with interesting shirts tho
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:49 AM
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i dont even treat different men the same, so why would i treat men and women the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:45 AM
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why is it mens job to be gentlemen to their friends
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:40 AM
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care to elaborate
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:38 AM
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what about men that have no interest in the social lives of other people
/r/PurplePillDebate27/08/23 12:38 AM
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Nuns are not anti natalist
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:33 PM
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No problem specifically just don’t like antinatalism
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:30 PM
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You don’t need to compliment to show interest, you can show interest through other forms of flirting
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:27 PM
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It is harder to use filters to improve the faces of men since female beauty is more focused on the features of the face, and male beauty is more dependent on the overall shape of the face which is harder to change through filters, it is easier to change eyebrows, skin blemishes, nose shape through filter but harder to change jaw width and cheekbones
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 04:19 PM
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Your solution is inadequate for men
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:44 PM
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although im realising now as well i should try to be more authentic in my approaches as well
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/23 01:12 AM
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dont go to a normal university, i go to a top university and do cs, so its more challenging for me unfortunately, and my high school heavily skewed male, but im trying u know ill get there hopefully
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:12 PM
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youve never been closing times at shitty nightclubs, normal ass guys who are desperate will chase anything at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:07 PM
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these days how many times do you see this, maybe cause ur older than me (not a dig) but i never grew up seeing this except in old movies, you are more likely to see body positivity stuff
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:04 PM
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dont women consume more media than men, especially movies
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 11:02 PM
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i see this starting to go out of style these days
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:51 PM
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its not realistic for them to land someone ugly either to be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:51 PM
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the idea that someone would automatically be more successful at dating by unfiltering only works for some people thats why red pill is necessary for others
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:47 PM
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you havent been outside enough if you actually believe this
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:41 PM
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ive had that kind of rejection before, kinda froze cause i was not expecting such a harsh rejection, but regained my composure and walked off, in the long term that rejection was no more painful than other rejections
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:40 PM
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irrelevant, we are talking about meeting girls
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:28 PM
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as a guy the social circles you come across matter a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:26 PM
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would a man have to buy you a drink in that situation, i avoid the bars and focus on the dancefloor cause im not tryna buy girls a drink (at least until i know she is very interested in me), not cause im poor but to avoid being taken advantage of
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:25 PM
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this is largely location variant, but the hobbies that are good for meeting women are sometimes saturated with men there who only joined mainly to meet women
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:22 PM
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it is not that guys are scared to approach, is that they are scared to be the 100th guy that hit on a girl at some hobby event
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:16 PM
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a women doesnt have to find out, and there are online places you can pay a photographer to come at take a few pics with you with your friends, if you dont have a social group that goes out much, go to clubs solo and brefriend the guys there then invite them out in the future, out of all the problems men have with dating this is one of the easier ones to solve
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:14 PM
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id get dating apps but im too young, girls on dating apps my age not serious about meeting up, just wanna waste time with convo
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:10 PM
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most men go back empty handed from clubs unfortunately, even a lot of attractive ones
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:09 PM
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there are always women that fit your description at the club who dance next to the wall with their girls and have a closed off body language and quickly reject any approaching guy, like dont understand why they came to the club could have danced at home
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:07 PM
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neurotisism one of the biggest dating struggles in the first place
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:04 PM
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i used to be shy since i was born, now i am not, if you made it your priority you could change
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 10:02 PM
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too many outdated unrealistic expectations on young men given the currrent environment, as a guy even if you become good at social skills you still have to deal with the fact there are very few right places/right times to approach
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:55 PM
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yes gen z women less interested in both ons and long term relationships, it only gets harder for guys
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:51 PM
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what is your game, im interested
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:47 PM
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from the mans perspective it is hard to tell either way whether it is a genuine excuse or not, so it is right to take the optimistic route, dont wanna knock down ur confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:45 PM
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should have lied brudda
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:38 PM
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a bit of a stretch
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:37 PM
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as technology and society progresses the more things that we once took for granted start breaking, here we took most men being desirable in the past for granted
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:36 PM
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theres a difference in the time between relationships involuntarily being single for different people, which is still a problem
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:25 PM
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what are the age of these men tho
/r/PurplePillDebate25/08/23 09:24 PM
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What does treating someone like a human being mean to you? If you don’t want a relationship/friendship with someone, doesn’t mean you are now denying their humanity. Just because you consented to sex with someone doesn’t mean they now have to show you anything above minimal respect in return, it ain’t a contract. People are only entitled to minimal respect, nothing more, if you feel you deserve more then find people who appreciate you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 08:11 PM
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Most people advocating that there is genetic influence also understand that there is socialisation involved however those advocating for socialisation seem to deny there is any genetic influence. We already know women release certain hormones during pregnancy and after birth which induce maternal behaviours and there are differences relating to brain structure between men and women in the parts responsible for reading emotional and social cues and empathy
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:56 PM
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i dont really reach the threshold, but some of my peers do
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:42 PM
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The thing about dating is that it is a very un straightforward goal due to being controlled largely by luck and a billion unmeasurable variables, so if you have done as much as you think you could, using your knowledge, towards this goal and you still don’t have success you will find a way to rationalise it whether right or wrong
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:18 PM
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Unless you are part of that population then it does matter
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 07:14 PM
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it doesnt say anything about the number of people in shape or out of shape since one can be not overweight but be out of shape, also body fat percentage would be a better measure anyways compared to bmi to account for difference in muscle mass
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:40 PM
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the ability to be happy single is the very definition of power, means women are able to walk away from the negotiating table while men chase after her
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:35 PM
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you can focus on your part all you want but it takes 2 to enter a relationship/ have sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:33 PM
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just because people dont want to be in a relationship/friendship with you doesnt mean you are not a multifaceted being
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:31 PM
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men dont really value friendship enough from anyone in my opinion
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:28 PM
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the problem is that although having no friends does hurt mens chances, the amount of friends women expect men to have is unrealistic, like women expect every guy to be some extrovert, it is exhausting
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:24 PM
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the reality is that men are less interested in people in general so men are less interested in their friends, a lot of male friendships form through situational circumstances where there is a shared goal/activity between the men, if men could only talk to their friends without doing anything together, a lot of male friendships would wither and die
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:21 PM
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for men, making friends is a very low priority goal compared to getting into a relationship or making money, because men are less interested in people generally
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:15 PM
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idk i feel like my friendships with women require way more effort in terms of more emotional labour whereas when you are friends with men you dont need to put in much effort into maintaining the friendship
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:13 PM
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i find that people generally dont need more and more frends, they just need a few good quality friends, and ideally friends who you are able to meet regularly without putting too much effort in
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:11 PM
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do u support eugenics
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 06:00 PM
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you dont realise the shear amount of guys who are not on these forums, dont know a thing about pills and they dont get sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:55 PM
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sex may not be the queue to happiness, but no sex leads to great unhappiness
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:52 PM
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just because people whine on the internet doesnt mean they do it in real life, sometimes its a place to vent
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:45 PM
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i dont think women are desperate to join male spaces, women avoid places with too many men cause they get too much attention
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:43 PM
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just cause a gene hasnt been discovered doesnt mean we dont know there is genetic influence, same way the genes for autism have not been fully discovered but we know they exist
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:32 PM
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during pregnancy and after birth women release more hormones oxytocin and prolactin for nurturing babies through maternal behaviours, the brain regions associated with reconising social cues is larger in women which would help in understanding the emotions and needs of babies
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:30 PM
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actually some men could be the same height but look taller or shorter depending on leg,torso,arm and neck length
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:18 PM
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bro u fumbled the bag lets be honest
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:14 PM
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not the same, no man is rejecting a women if she doesnt have an hourglass as long as shes a healthy BMI, its a disadvantage but it doesnt rule the women off
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 05:12 PM
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yes with a lot of dating it is just a numbers game and right place right time, and making sure your doing well on your side of things, on the other side it is also about who you meet, is the women available, is she mentally in the right place to flirt rn, is she open to men or is she avoidant of male strangers, can she recognise an opportunity to meet potential suitable partners even outside of sexually/romantically charged spaces, all this could depend on the type of women you meet in day to da…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:39 PM
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so what would you say are your advantages, why do women chose to start flirting with you
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:18 PM
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what is the difference between entitlement and very strong desire. I would argue that there is no difference between need and want, need is just extreme want
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:12 PM
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so i would argue that the idea that average women dont want average men is correct, although an average man that manages to communicate to her his unique value to her or he is able to appeal to her emotions in a special unique way can succeed, in which case i would not consider that man to be average anymore, because he has convinced the women that he is far from the average man (whether actually true or not), whilst a women can show a man that she is plain average and nothing unique or special …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:09 PM
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obviously you could survive, but some individuals would find wanting to survive very difficult without the positive validation from sex, which is unique from most other forms of validation
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 01:01 PM
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i understand the shortcomings of taking statistics from face value, however i still believe you can draw certain conclusions that are accurate if you are cautious enough with the data you are given
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:57 PM
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all things im doing except online dating but thank you i guess
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:52 PM
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human brain probably told millions of other people not to buy it
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:43 PM
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from my experience the attractive guy standing in the corner with a drink in their hand just head popping do better than the other guys who orbit around girls in the club while their dancing tryna entertain girls with their dancing skills and enthusiam, although looking stressed is not good, the calmer guys who dont do much dancing tend to pull more
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:16 PM
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how do you know most men on this sub arent doing anything about appearance, all this self improvement stuff is very popualr among young guys and young guys are going gym at increasing rates as well
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:13 PM
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dont women consider most guys unnattractive
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:11 PM
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stop throwing around misleading statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:00 PM
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most incorrect statement i have seen
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:57 AM
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the human brain is intelligent enough to realise when a man that is masturbating often is not getting sex
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:55 AM
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they are still alive but it probably has a toll on their sanity
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:54 AM
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have u noticed that men really hate being single
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:53 AM
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probably cultural and socioeconomic as well, grew up in a rough area and most guys where concerned with money, status (being known as the hardest) and drip from a young age to get girls, while a lot of middle class guys i know these days tend to follow bluepilled tactics and be themselves more, they are a lot more well rounded due to upbringing
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:45 AM
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there is a threshold you have to reach, high IQ is associated with high EQ, but when you go to very very high IQs EQ starts to drop off fairly quickly, i am not talking about the top 1% but top 0.1%
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 11:34 AM
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high iq (above a certain level it disadvantages social skills), higher anxiety, overthinking, lack of interest in small talk and preference for complex,abstract ideas, introversion, reliance on logical thinking instead of intuition
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:56 AM
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can you blame them, the same pyscological traits that make someone good at stem negatively disadvantages them when it comes to social skills
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/23 12:36 AM
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yes of course, you will find ways to relate to them, it doesnt mean you would find that person interesting to talk to cause at the end of the day that person may rarely says anything that requires serious thought from the listener, thats why lots of intelligent people dislike small talk even though they are capable of having small talk
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 11:30 PM
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when boys are teenagers they are probably more redpilled, then they become blue pilled as they get married and have children
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:47 PM
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it depends, if you have high iq you tend to be bored by a lot of people cause they dont have interesting thoughts
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:46 PM
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yeah there are so many hobbies basic people do, and they think their hobbies make them interesting when they are generic ass hobbies
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:42 PM
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and what should i observe when most my friends are single all the time despite all looking, only ones that get into relationships regularly are my female friends and attractive male friends
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:38 PM
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how is it feasible to search for this person if you dont get enough dates
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:34 PM
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therapy can only solve the problem if your barrier to dating is a mental problem, but for some men it is a practical problem
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:32 PM
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you got me thinking you know, i guess i just believe humans should have some sort of purpose u know, and i guess there is an argument that videogames could provide a legitimate purpose, although i feel like for a purpose to be fulfilling it should have an actual impact on the world in some way, not just for personal gratification. I dont believe that if you have pain you need to find a way to numb it, just think that is unhealthy, anything that numbs your pain in the short term will increase you…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 09:29 PM
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yes i agree with what your saying, although i feel like life is also about achieving things, but most people who play videogames seriously tend to put a lot of their energy and ambitions into it, almost as if they are trying to achieve something through videogames which may stop them from pursuing the ambitions they have in real life, which is why i think videogames are slightly worse than other mediums of enjoyment, but i guess if you just play videogames once in a while for pure enjoyment then…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 07:10 PM
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when i said "you" i wasnt referring to "you" personally. Let me give you an example, if person A asks person B "why you wearing a suit" and person B says "at the place where I work you must wear a suit", person B is not telling person A that they must wear a suit, person B is just saying that people who work at that workplace have to wear a suit, because the pronoun is not referring to any particular person.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 04:32 PM
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where was the personal attack, you might have misunderstood what i was saying in my comment, i wasnt calling you mediocre btw, i simply said that a man that is mediocre will struggle in getting dates
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:43 PM
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my friends are all slightly nerdy intelligent types you know, they are relatively social and theres are a decent amount women in the wider group and im not interested in those women, so i need to expand out, all the cute girls are not hanging around in my sort of circles u know
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:40 PM
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im talking about attracting women, you went on a date with him so he attracted you, better that, than not going on any dates cause you are too mediocre
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 03:28 PM
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my old xbox username lol, but i still regret the days and nights i spent playing videogames, all just sunken time with no tangible benefit
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 02:20 PM
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I would like to think i am in a unique situation, after I finish uni i should be making 6 figures starting salary, ill try to not lead with my wallet in dating, but money will give me the freedom to spend time making social connections, i can get my own place and be the guy that host parties, improving my fashion as well cause rn im too poor to actually have a good fashion style, grooming, ive going gym seriously for 3 years rn so after uni i should be a pretty hench guy as well, after uni, girl…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:59 PM
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as a man you must quit videogames since it gives the illusion of success, i learnt this at 16
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:38 PM
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i am saying having good hygeine will not necessarily be enough to attract a women, if you do not have enough other attractive traits, (although smelling good is something that would help in attractiveness), a man can have no red flags or negative traits but still struggle to attract women without doing the right things because women are not desperate to be hopping into relationships these days
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:37 PM
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idk at 19 i feel like people only interact with people they already know from school or uni, and my school was very small and the uni i go to is full of people i have little in common with, and in my city most clubs/social events are geared towards people 22-30 who make the majority of the population since people move to the city after uni, at 19 me and my friends are too poor to do many activities in my city anyway since i am a student and i do not work full time, even travel is too expensive
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:29 PM
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so what ur saying is only half of the truth, the common sense part
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 01:52 AM
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give it time, the situation needs to get worse before it gets better
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:41 AM
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if democracy does not work for young people, democracy will be overthrown and replaced with something else
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:12 AM
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in societies where they have a tradition of uprising, the young people will uprise, no? democracy is not eternal, and old people cant really fight back
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:10 AM
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this effect is the cancelled out by the fact that when conservative women move to large cities for economic opportunities they become more liberal, therefore there is a flow of women from conservative to liberal, but not necessarily the other way around
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:08 AM
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only the top percent of men had wives tho, most men died in war or were slaves, in hunter gather societies the tribal chiefs would have 50% of the wives
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:04 AM
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how well does just lying about experience work theoretically
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:01 AM
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everyone is different, before chasing women all my fulfilment came from play video games and i was so uninterested in socialising i didnt speak unless spoken to, and i didnt make actively friends and just waited for people to brefriend me and i was relatively content, luckily being horny in puberty forced me to change and take more interest in the world, my goals and ambitions, in this modern world, some people simply feel they dont have a purpose because no one needs them for anything really, i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/23 12:00 AM
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people want to believe that those going through misfortune have negative traits and are inherently worse people, in the past if someone was going through misfortune it was cause of theirs or their family members sin
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:50 PM
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explain why
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:49 PM
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how do you build this social circle at 19
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:41 PM
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so you are saying the same thing basically
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:38 PM
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this stuff helps in not being unnattractive to women, but not in being attractive to women
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:32 PM
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smart
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:30 PM
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as much as the benefits of going gym is overstated, since having muscles does not decide whether or not a woman likes you, it does help increasing attractiveness when some level of attraction is already there, even if some girls dont necessarily like muscle, just being physically bigger in size will help a guy standout, just dont make your whole personality about going gym
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:28 PM
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as a black guy i always find black women are very closed off and cold for some reason like when i chat them up like they never show interest idk why but its a struggle
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:22 PM
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nah i was as well, but it is because i was a very analytical child so i saw many differences in society
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:16 PM
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and also depends on who will see her with him as well
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:39 PM
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its half true, there are a lot of relationships that wouldnt have happened if either partner was more unnatractive, but a lot of relationships would still have happened
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:36 PM
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from experience very high iq people and very low iq people tend to be less attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:22 PM
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testosterone
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 12:05 PM
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u can actually, scientifically introversion/extroversion is one of the more easier traits to change, that is what i did to some extent
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:31 AM
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i think the main problem is that as an introvert you still have to force yourself to make more small talk more than would seem natural to you in order and approach in an extroverted manner to have success, you can be social and fun but girls may still not approach you
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:28 AM
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its not a binary, there are guys who treat women like people who struggle with getting in long term relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:20 AM
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i have a question, would you expect the guy to eat pussy for an ons or is fingering good enough
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:12 AM
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the situation is assymetric, the number of guys in that category outnumber the number of girls, and the girls would have more opportunity to date outside that category, the girls may be more likely to prefer to stay single as well
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/23 11:09 AM
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