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You might not have enough female friends to know.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/16 03:44 AM
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I think that women hover closer to the average than men ... which means there are a lot more men who genuinely are "bad apples" (and some men who are amazing and snapped up faster than you can blink.) That said, some women do pick bad apples over and over. If they decry all men I blame them. If they admit they have a problem with bad choices then I feel sorry for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 10:17 PM
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Isn't the Brandon Turner a bad boy? He is tall, I saw him in a swimsuit, and DAMN fine ... But here's the thing ... the infamous party after which he raped a woman? He'd been hitting on girls all night and striking out. (Probably because he set off their creep detectors.) Also, some of those "Bad Boys" may not be bad. They may be awesome. I had a friend who put himself through college all by himself because his parents were kind of assholes. He wore leather jackets. He had a tattoo. He rode a mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 09:53 PM
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A friend of mine whose husband left her and their kids. (They have a handicapped kid--families with a handicapped kid are more likely to divorce--things they don't tell you about.) Even though she has the kids, because she makes more money, he is the one getting alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 09:40 PM
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Nobody should be forced to stay with someone that they no longer want to be with. If you have children, you should consider staying and trying to fix it. There are a couple of reasons you are obligated to divorce: serial cheating, drug abuse, gambling addiction, anything illegal your spouse is doing, physical or sexual abuse of you or your kids. But in every marriage there are rough patches. After my second child I really felt like maybe my husband and I would both be happier if we divorced. He …
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 09:35 PM
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I've heard some guys say that it confused them later on because they didn't know how to act with girls their own age. But that is anecdotal. They didn't seem as scarred as women I know who were in the same situation. I think that sometimes the young men felt like they were in control, and in the women's cases (who were girls at the time,) I think they felt they weren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 09:14 PM
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Nope. Pretty much all the girls I know were like this. But you go ahead and believe what you want to.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/06/16 09:06 PM
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Eh ... no, as I understand it, feminism requires that if you're in the room with someone who is being a misogynistic dickhead, that you say something, and that you intervene if someone is being a violent asshole. It doesn't say that any particular man is responsible for Brock Turner (well, maybe his dad, but after reading his letter, his dad probably is responsible.) I can hear the screams now, "But what about RAPE CULTURE!" It's "Rape culture" they are complaining about, not "male culture" and …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 02:22 PM
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I know a lot of men who feel this way, too. I don't know if it is healthy longterm though? Maybe it depends on the man? I've heard some guys say that it warped their future relationships, but only on the intertubes. Regardless of how the boy feels, it is still wrong of the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/06/16 01:56 PM
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No, I will not tell you my aspirations! I'm not outing myself. I succeeded pretty well though. They were both different. One didn't understand why I'd want to work if I didn't have, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 07:20 PM
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No. Sorry, it doesn't. I got messages from a lot of attractive men and I stopped responding because the long emails (pages!) started freaking me out. My husband didn't have a picture at first (and then when he sent it, I thought he wasn't that good looking.)
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 12:41 PM
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I think at this point, Western ideals are pretty much everywhere, however in traditional Japanese porn breasts aren't really emphasized. I think them being different from men's chests is probably important, but I doubt that all cultures have liked them as big as our current obsession.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 01:44 AM
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I don't know if men all know this. If you read Brock Turner's dad's letter I don't think he realized how badly his son's behavior would be interpreted. He saw it as just another episode of "boys being boys." The truth is, most men don't stuff pine needles inside a girl behind a dumpster, or even finger an unconscious girl behind a dumpster even when they're drunk. But the guys who do that sort of thing learn it from somewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 12:58 AM
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It's not your height. It's your positive attitude. OnceJulian doesn't share it. I know short guys who get laid all the time, and only date very beautiful women. They aren't particularly rich (although they do have jobs they are very passionate about.) Personality matters a lot ... but it's easier to say it's all about the bank account, and abs ... or even height. Personality is more ... personal. You can diet, exercise, and have good grooming, that's fixable. Height, well, completely not your fa…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 12:45 AM
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No, no they are not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 12:40 AM
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She's not different from "most girls." Maybe different from the girls you know ... which says more about you than women in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 12:39 AM
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So many of my girlfriends are happily married to East Asian men. They're fantastic at parties. They can talk about so much, and they don't think getting an education is girly. They value family and if you say, "My mother forgot to feed her cat, and she's not able to go home right now, because she's with my grandmother who is in the hospital," they don't get mad at you ... they take you to your mother's house. And then to check on your grandmother. Also, a lot of Asian men are really good looking…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 12:35 AM
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I probably do prefer talking about non-personal subjects (I'm a deep INTP.) I think what it really was though was that my aspirations were silly to them. I actually have dated two really rich guys. I don't know if the first was interested in marriage, but he definitely wanted a LTR. His feelings were, "Why have any aspirations when you can have me?" The other one ... well, he was actually more interested in marriage, but he wanted to mold me into something, the perfect WASP trophy wife I guess? …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/16 12:28 AM
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So in pre-Mao China women bound their feet. Their mothers split the skin on top to bend back the bones to make their feet tiny and small. And you know what -- men found it attractive. What we find attractive is very much about what society tells us is attractive. In some societies narrow eyes were more attractive than wide eyes. Even the waist hip ratio that was supposed to be universal seems to be more of a thing for Indian and European men. Men may like younger women, that may be universal ...…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 10:56 PM
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But not all societies find big breasts particularly attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 10:49 PM
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I actually think it is cultural. If you read Victorian porn they were CRAZY for female body hair. As long as it was under her clothes, it was fantastic. It signified her animals side. They wrote about "lusty women with hair growing down their thighs" and I read one guy who liked the fine pelt of hair on his lovers back.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 10:48 PM
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I don't know, just supposed to look cute? I think he thought I was an interesting conversationalist, but I didn't fee like he really knew me.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 10:44 PM
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precedent noun 1. Law. a legal decision or form of proceeding serving as an authoritative rule or pattern in future similar or analogous cases. 2. any act, decision, or case that serves as a guide or justification for subsequent situations. Synonyms: example, model, pattern, standard. adjective, precedent 3. going or coming before; preceding; anterior. This word. I don't think it means what you think it means.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 10:44 PM
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As someone who met her husband online, I can tell you why we don't respond to those long messages ... because we get too many of them. Also, it's weird to give a stranger that much info on you right away. It's like they are in love with you and they just met you and that is extremely unhealthy on the guys part.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 01:00 AM
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Right. You have ways to substantiate this, correct? He can't. I married the guy who I liked over the millionaire who I felt like was trying to buy me and keep me as his "pet" wife. I have girlfriends who made the same decision. I think OP's experiences may be based on his own choice of shallow women. There are men who are just as shallow. They tend to find each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/16 12:57 AM
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Actually, on the BuzzFeed post someone else posted my observation is borne out. There are men who are saying the 13 year old boy was ready mentally and physically. https://www.buzzfeed.com/emaoconnor/teacher-charged-with-sexual-abuse?utm_term=.hrvPQPE5N#.sjmdmdX6G Fortunately, there are a lot of other men calling them on that BS.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:59 PM
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Where I typically see women who have sex with minors getting sympathy it tends to come from men. They get angry at the young men for opening their mouths. 11 seems young, but if he was 18 or even 16 or 17 they'd be telling him to shut up and enjoy it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:50 PM
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To add to the list of mitigating circumstances, she was clearly attracted to him Where have you read that? I've read he got rebuffed by her sister a few times, and never heard about her being attracted to him. I don't think he should have gotten life, I think he should have gotten the regular sentence. This shows what a mockery our justice system is. He took her behind a dumpster. She was completely unconscious when the Swedish guys found her, and he RAN AWAY. He knew he was doing something wron…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:42 PM
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But with young people it isn't always a decision, it is an accident. They've just started drinking, and they don't know how many is too many. Something that might help would be drinking with their families before going off to college--which means starting before the 21 year old age limit. I will probably do that with my kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:38 PM
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She didn't have roofies in her system, but she was a young woman who likely didn't know her limits. She also may not have known what was in the drinks, or how much of "it" was. She shouldn't have been dragged behind a dumpster for it. I'm actually someone who thinks that sometimes there are circumstances when someone cries rape when they enthusiastically consented to something while they were intoxicated and the other person was too intoxicated to realize the other person was intoxicated. But th…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:34 PM
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YOU ARE A CHILD. Your brain hasn't stopped developing (men your age are the same.) The "oldest teenager in the room" is probably true of you, because your brain isn't really settled until 25 or so (and some people say into the 30s.) Men at the same age really seem like teenagers to older women, too. It has nothing to do with you being a girl. So, that may be part of the "resonance" you have felt. You're young, you want to be open minded, but you can open your mind to hogwash. I can't say much mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 11:29 PM
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No, but it makes women, even ones who have high libidos, less likely to want to bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 05:48 PM
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pretty soon it's going to be "free everything is a right!!" This is a "slippery slope fallacy." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/16 12:01 AM
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A lot of my female friends would rather turn to machines than men. Less risk, higher chance of reward. The drive is there, but it will be unfulfilled by typical guy. I don't have a large enough sample size, but anecdotally, it seems like out of 10 guys, only 3 will have any idea what they're doing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 10:47 PM
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Uh ... no. They want to have sex with men who will make it pleasurable for them. That is a higher bar than it is for men more because of anatomy than anything else. (Although the risk of unplanned pregnancy and disease is nagging at the back of our brains too.) If a guy seems unlikely to care ... why bother? A lot of women with high sexual drives would rather turn to a vibrator than a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 10:45 PM
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You're the one being weird, not shoup88. Jeez. Just because women don't enjoy casual sex as much as men, doesn't mean that they don't enjoy sex as much. I know lots of women in marriages who'd like sex more often. I think you just want to be angry at women for wanting to have sex with men they like. (The horror!)
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/16 10:39 PM
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Are you unable to orgasm on your own? (I see from other comments that you don't orgasm during the act, or presumably with other partners.) Before I had my first serious boyfriend in college I tried sex ... it didn't work. I didn't orgasm and I always felt let down afterwards. I was pretty sure I was broken. If I had stayed in relationships with those guys, I would have wound up hating them. I don't think you should become promiscuous. Trying the same thing with different guys isn't going to help…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 11:03 PM
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The criminal justice system must operate on the premise of innocent until proven guilty. As a woman who has been sexually harassed, and assaulted (though not raped--and I was a typical minor who didn't report it because I thought it was my fault), stalked by a stranger, and was a target of someone who later turned out to be a serial rapist (but I got really, really angry and scared him away) I have to say, the way accused rapists are presumed guilty before a fair trial really upsets me. That is …
/r/PurplePillDebate02/06/16 06:39 PM
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I read some of his posts and tweets. It's not the "damaged goods"; "headed towards cat lady status" that really upset me. He just said that "90% of women are only good to be fuck puppets." He generally insulted their intelligence, and basically just said horrible things about the women who were his clients. Further, he insulted his male customers. He hit on their wives and girlfriends while they were around and said things like "she was totally into me but was being good and went home with him,"…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 11:19 PM
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No, it shouldn't be considered acceptable, and I'm sorry your relationship is in that situation. As I don't know your situation I can't comment and wouldn't deem it appropriate to offer advice or judgement. But people here are saying that every time should be black out orgasm good. It just can't. That kind of sex can happen decades into a relationship ... but every time? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/16 11:05 PM
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I feel like this whole thread is being dominated by men who have never been in a relationship longer than 1-3 years. The first years are crazy--you have sex a LOT, several times a day. But then things slow down, and not just on the woman's side. That doesn't mean that there isn't crazy sex that still happens, but it certainly isn't every time (when you have kids it gets complicated.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/05/16 09:57 PM
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In my neighborhood all the people trying to help boys do better are women. We're trying to make recess longer (little boys generally do need it more) and control the amount of homework. Men say we're coddling the kids even when we show the evidence that recess and less homework are good for the cognitive development of a child (and things like art class.) Mansplaining hurts little boys, too, because God forbid women might be right.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 07:54 PM
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Sure they do. But I'm not sure how common they are. ETA: Also, not sure how many pimps really have this happen, but want to believe it happens to justify the abuse in their own minds.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 07:39 PM
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Rihanna is one woman. There are also a lot of men who have wives who emotionally abuse them that stick around. Does that mean all men like to be emotionally abused. To see if women really like to be abused you'd need to set at least 100 women up in abusive relationships. You'd need to make sure all had equal access to leave. That isn't an experiment you can do.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 02:24 PM
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And you should trust the words of pimps who beat prostitutes because ... ? FWIW: among all the women I've known, I've only known one woman who really a masochist. TRP might offer techniques that make it easier to find them, but I don't think it's that common.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/16 02:21 PM
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I've done all that you describe, and I'm not "obese" or even "overweight" though I'm sure TRP would label me as fat. To look like that girl I had to be hungry all the time. It made me nervous and on edge, and I got really sick probably just because at the amount of calories I was eating (less than 1,000 a day) I just couldn't get the nutrition I needed. I decided to be "fat" and healthy. (Yes, I do exercise--lifting and cardio.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/16 12:40 PM
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Bullshit. You can mitigate the effect of your genes, but different people have different bone structures and different weights their bodies want to be. To look like the girl in that picture I'd have to be mighty hungry ... a lot of models are starving, hence the drugs, and eating tissues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 11:59 PM
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No, of course not. In the cases wombat and OfSpock are describing, even if the man DOES those things after a woman NAGS him she is still going to resent him. He's making her his MOTHER. If it's his freakin' job to mow the lawn / wash the car she shouldn't have to tell him to do it. In my relationship, it was my husband who took all of my work for granted; he was very responsible about his side of things, but somehow couldn't tell how much work I put into the household. The only thing that fixed …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 03:53 PM
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All of wordjedi's "evidence" are gif's that state statistics with no sources. The picture of the skinny woman and the buff man is particularly hysterical. She probably does work out, and you don't know what she does to stay thin -- she may be puking out her meals, or eating tissue paper to keep from being hungry if she hasn't gotten the "skinny" gene naturally. Some of the facts about men and women and finances are sketchy too. As a woman who worked in finance, a lot of men THINK they know a lot…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/16 03:36 PM
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These are GREAT hobbies. Since I don't know you, can't really coach you on your interpersonal skills. The Toastmasters sounds great though.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 10:39 PM
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Do you find emotions overriding your decision making capability all the time? Do you manipulate people for selfish gain all the time? Would you leave your man the moment a better man is in sight? That was your statement. I said that I haven't left my husband at the first sign of trouble, in answer to your question. No, my emotions don't override my decision making. (That isn't all good by the way. Sometimes being emotional and empathetic is better. I'm neither emotional or empathetic and it driv…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 07:00 PM
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I'm old. And my marriage has been through ups and downs. I haven't left, nor am I looking to leave. Most of the women I know are in the same situation. Marriage is hard. That doesn't make it not worth it, but it isn't all sunshine and roses.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 01:51 PM
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I like you Blue Pill Man. You're funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 01:48 PM
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I am so sorry. I know for children who fit your description they now have therapy to help with interpersonal relationships (even before medication I think?) You might try to look into that. I think that if you could get past the first uncomfortable stage using tools you learned in therapy, you'd be able to relax and behave in a way that wasn't so "creepy." You play by a script for sales, and relationships, especially at the beginning are about sales. It sounds like you have friends and colleague…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/16 01:38 PM
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Or they don't want you interested so they pull the vapid trick to get you to leave them alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 10:52 PM
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A man who wants a permanent LTR (marriage or no) is looking for something much different than just an attractive piece of meat, looks are a small part of the equation. The overarching question is >whether the man thinks the project will succeed, given his knowledge of himself and the other person, and their respective situations. I don't think looks aren't important, but YOUTH may be less important. My husband dated a 23 year old right before me. He said he just couldn't talk to her. Men want so…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 10:51 PM
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When the kitten opens its eyes the first time, it's probably still technically blind. I hope you get better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 04:50 PM
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are super focused on youth and looks don't mature out of it or adjust their standards, that's just the way they are. This. To the OP, there are lots of men who aren't so youth obsessed though. Also, plenty of women get married in their 30s (I'm one of them.) If you're getting down about the dating pool don't hang out here. You'll start hating men. This is a very select group of embittered angry men. There are lots of good ones out there, and yes, they're good in bed. (I think that RP likes to im…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/16 04:49 PM
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I'm sorry you've been hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/05/16 04:01 PM
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I met my husband when I was 29; you've got lots of time. Something that TRP doesn't want to acknowledge is that men who are successful tend to like successful women and aren't intimidated by them at all. I live in an urban area where everyone is "working affluent." A lot of women are stay at home moms now, but before they stayed at home they had really interesting careers. Of course, TRP would say now they're just milking the men for money, but they don't understand that when they have kids they…
/r/ExRedPill07/05/16 11:05 PM
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If a guy is giving a woman creepy signals she shouldn't call him a rapist, but she is completely within her rights to get the fuck out of there and she she doesn't have to offer any apologies either. If a woman feels scared by merely a man standing close to a door, she needs anxiety medication. Bullshit. She needs to say, "Excuse me," and get out of there. If he doesn't move, her feelings have been validated, and a good swift kick to the balls is probably in order. Every woman has a story about …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 06:29 PM
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I actually have a problem with the word "rape" being used if the woman (or man) didn't say no. Not everyone is perceptive enough to read body signals. A young woman might think, "All men want sex!" and a young man might think, "I'm hot, she wants me!" It's just a matter of being stupid, not a predator. But when someone gets someone passed out drunk to have sex with them, that is a different matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 06:24 PM
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Worked from my husband's perspective too ... both for ONS and LTRs.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/16 02:22 PM
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I think I may not have communicated "oneitis" very well. I think, "SHE IS THE ONLY GIRL IN THE WORLD FOR ME!/HE IS THE ONLY MAN IN THE WORLD FOR ME" is bad. But I also think it's important to realize that it's really hard to find someone you're compatible enough with that you'll want to spend your life with them. Or even a weekend. Or a few hours. The workout thing is another. It's good advice, especially to a lot of neck beard types, that they get more fit. But it's taken to an extreme. This to…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/16 04:41 PM
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The Red Pill doesn't explain to men the real reason some of their ploys do work. For instance, keeping yourself calm and a little distant lets a woman get to know you better. Men fall in love harder and faster than women. http://elitedaily.com/dating/men-likely-fall-love-harder-faster-women/965285/ When a woman gets declarations of love from a man she's barely met she suspects he's trying to manipulate her for sex or that he's crazy. She knows she's a human being with flaws and when he goes craz…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 11:13 PM
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I'm female ... I've only known one woman who seemed to like the TRP type. She was a basket case though, in many ways. I think women do like confident funny men, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 10:51 PM
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Home?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 10:49 PM
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TRP thinks that's all girls all the time. :-P
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 10:48 PM
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That's interesting that you think I'm lying ... but I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 10:47 PM
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This ... this would work I think!
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:48 PM
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"It is of course disgusting when an unattractive man hits on you in any situation. You might say we should hit on men. Apart from the fact that you would then just reverse the problem, we don’t want to. Rejection is humiliating." This is just weird. It is disgusting if some guy licks you or gropes you. If an awkward guy hits on you it isn't disgusting, it doesn't turn my stomach. It can be awkward trying to say no when there is no chemistry, and it feels bad because, believe it or not, most wome…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:41 PM
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I think actually, it is more common than you might think. And I think the higher status the guy, the more he might like it. He wants to not be in control.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:32 PM
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I read an article that stated that men are attracted to neurotic women. And then I lost it. Have wanted to show it here. But a common complaint among young women/girls is they guy they like falling for the mean girl. I think it sorts itself out with age for both men and women.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:26 PM
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Sometimes, "Thank you, I'm flattered, but I'm sorry, I'm not interested," will get you screamed at in public. After that sort of experience, you start being cagey, trying to figure out how psycho the guy is ... or just keep him at arms length until you can get off the bus. Not that I would know.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:23 PM
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So ... where is this from? I Googled it and couldn't get a source. I don't know women like this. I'm sure they exist ... but this almost looks like it was written by an angry dude. For one thing, I've never heard another woman refer to "Western women" as a group, that is something MRAs and MGTOWs say. Also, women dress up a lot for each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:16 PM
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I understand what you're saying, and I think guys should approach, but if a woman is holding a book up in front of her face and trying to study, you might try something short right before you leave. "I notice you're studying, and I don't want to bother you ... but would you like to meet up for coffee sometime." She'll either say she has a boy friend or she won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:09 PM
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Met my husband on a dating site. He had met ONS on the site before, and had gone on dates with lots of women from the site. He is chubby but he is tallish (for a normal American, in my family the men tend to be giants) and decent looking. When we met he wasn't rich. The key was he didn't chat much on the site. He immediately went for the brief intro and then would set up a date ... he set up our date in a very safe location in the middle of the afternoon which was a really good idea.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 02:02 PM
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I used to love going dancing with my girlfriends. Never went home with a guy, neither did they ... although they did meet some LTRs. That said, they didn't leave with the guys at the club, they guys got their numbers and called them later and they went out for dates during the day time.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/16 01:55 PM
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It's a real thing. Sometimes of course, it's just groping, or exposure ... but still not pleasant to deal with.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 11:41 PM
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Or the married man who invites you over to his "second flat" in the city. I always tried to be nice to guys. Thinking back on it, some really didn't deserve it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 11:40 PM
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Little girls can be mean, but so can little boys. My son's friends have beat up on his little sister, and some of them are creepy and ask him all sorts of questions about him having seen her naked (of course he has, kids get naked for no reason ... should be noted the boys with sisters are never curious.) I second whoever below said kids are assholes.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 11:36 PM
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Unless you're born rich you don't get the good life at 21.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 09:30 PM
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According to the experiences of the men I've met Combined with this ... Men lie about how many more partners in reality they truly had Okay then ...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 02:59 PM
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http://www.livescience.com/2678-realities-night-stands-revealed.html According to this, it's about 50% of women that have had a one night stand. Most of them found it pretty terrible. No data on how many of them would repeat the experience--which would shrink the pool of "casual sex."
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/16 02:45 AM
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I would think that more than RP advice, they need advice from Aspie men who are in successful relationships. I suppose some Aspies just want sex, just like everyone else ... but the ones I've known have really wanted longer term commitments. I think we don't like change that much. I really like being married.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/16 11:28 PM
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Not every Aspie is the same. There are gorgeous Aspies ... and they get laid but can't hold onto a long term relationship. TRP isn't going to help them there, they need to learn to connect emotionally. They need "beta" skills that TRP can't teach.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 02:06 PM
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Ummm ... I'm probably spectrum, but too old to have been diagnosed. My husband is neurotypical. I HAVE dated guys who were definitely spectrum. I think that every relationship needs someone who is in touch with the feelings of the relationship. In ours it is definitely my husband who brings up the emotional conversations.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 02:02 PM
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TRP is filled with unhealthy, toxic shit. If someone is coming from zero-point socially and begins obsessing about who is alpha, beta or omega, hypergamous females, SMV, etc it will create one extremely maladjusted person. A complete Frankenstein's monster. So much this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 01:46 PM
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There's nothing more impressive to other women than having striking jewelry, hair, and fashion, with lots of confidence. Ummm ... no. Maybe in some social circles, but not where I live. (Urban, working affluent neighborhood.) The popular moms are the ones that work (usually part-time, but they have careers they are passionate about) and they're nice. Not many divorcees.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/16 01:38 PM
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Eh ... I think that there is a spectrum. Some boys fall more in the feminine, some girls more in the masculine, and this doesn't necessarily mean they are homosexual. All women (even the most feminine) and all men (even the most masculine) have traits of the opposite gender. That said ... I think there are a larger number of girls who are nurturing and a larger number of men who are more physical/object orientated. I say this as the mother of a son and a daughter. We did not force my son to like…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 11:06 PM
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Or maybe, like in Nazi Germany, the relatives of the people we were experimenting on would flee ... taking their know how with them: http://news.stanford.edu/news/2014/august/german-jewish-inventors-081114.html
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 10:57 PM
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Living with women, who made more money than I did, was a big part of what opened my eyes to the RP. I noticed how they treated me, and I remember thinking to myself "if they made less money than I did, I would never treat them this way." I know this is true, because I've also lived with women who make less than I did. I've known plenty of women with husbands who earned more than them and they were treated like dirt. I know women who earn more than their husbands who adore their guys--if it weren…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 10:49 PM
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Far less common than it's made out to be and less common than the corrective discrimination. My dad left my mother and she couldn't even get a credit card even though she had a stable job in the 1970s. My grandmother couldn't get birth control because she need spousal consent (though if she were not married she couldn't get it at all.) There were other pernicious examples of sexism. A recent article against Harriet T. on the $20 quoted an old encyclopedia saying that Harriet saved 300 slaves. Th…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/16 09:07 PM
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TRP isn't so much a safe space as an echo chamber. Attempting not to protect it's users from badfeelz, but to keep a consistent message. TRP doesn't have a consistent message. There is no real Bible that guys believe in, and a lot of things they spout off is really reprehensible: Women shouldn't be allowed to vote, women can't be logical, AWALT. If a woman says all men are assholes I will point blank say, "You've just insulted my father, brother, and husband." If she answers something like, "Wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/16 12:00 AM
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All of the drug addicts I've known have had underlying medical conditions that weren't diagnosed--physical conditions that caused chronic pain. When those conditions were discovered and fixed they gave up drugs really fast without even checking into any sort of rehab. They weren't addicted to prescription opioids though, I think those may be worse than the drugs around when I was in highschool/college.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 01:52 PM
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First, if the mom has a meth habit she shouldn't have the kid unless she's actively in rehabilitation, which she is not. So she is guilty of endangerment right there. But is she guilty of leaving the little girl alone in the house and complicit in the rape? I can't say that. Take out the meth and the jail part and let's make it this: I went over to my friend's house. My daughter fell asleep on my friend's couch. Not wanting to wake her, my friend and I went into the garage; I'd promised to help …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 01:48 PM
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Yeah ... I don't have that constant power struggle in my relationship either. When my husband makes a bad decision I don't become a screaming harpy. He's perfectly capable of feeling bad about a mistake without me grinding his nose into it. Likewise me. We divide up responsibilities, and don't poke our noses over each others shoulders too much. I think as we get older we may have to poke a little. I've seen too many older men make decisions that have left their spouses destitute (I'm sure the re…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 03:52 AM
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Yes, I know some of these men. They don't like obese women, but they do like bigger women. I think some of these guys are so alpha that most of the TRPs wouldn't recognize how alpha they are. They don't care what guys like TRPs think, they're going to have the big girl that they like to bang and be happy. They're so secure in themselves, in their masculinity, and their worth that they could give two fucks she doesn't look like she walks a VS runway.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/16 03:29 AM
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Read the article ... is it just that MEN are more likely to cheat in marriage? http://www.newser.com/story/207635/study-whos-more-likely-to-cheat-in-a-relationship.html But as for not incredibly masculine men doing well with women, this has been true forever. If the guys are truly lazy, that is one thing. If they have interests that don't lead to a lot of money, but they pursue them passionately, that is often as attractive to women as money. Also, the ability to chat.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:44 PM
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I know what you're saying, but I suspect that most of the time the asshole started out by being charming. This doesn't just go for men who treat women badly in intimate relationships, it goes for women who treat men badly, too. What happens then is that the person who is engaged with said intimate acts with said asshole gets a bit of cognitive dissonance--what happened to the nice person? Is this a fluke? Did I do something wrong? Another thing about assholes: they tend to prey on nice people wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/16 10:35 PM
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Okay, OP first thing I want to say ... women think men decline in value as they get older, too. The guys over 30 who aren't married are seen as suspicious and possibly damaged goods. When I was in my 20s and occasionally dated these older men I found this to be true. They were demanding, and wanted things their way all the freakin' time. It wasn't enough that I have a Master's Degree, I needed a DOCTORATE. Those shoes were all wrong! Why couldn't I do my hair that way. I lost weight, they liked …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/16 05:42 PM
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Two comments: 1) Plenty of boys around here believe pregnancy shouldn't be optional and will flat out tell you they oppose abortion because women should be punished for being sluts. 2) The draft wasn't optional, but it hasn't been called since Vietnam. That said, I believe that the draft should be for everyone or no one.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 11:35 PM
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I think it's all about looking for an excuse for why they are unlikeable. If it's something beyond their control, they don't have to hold themselves accountable. The opposite of what Red Pill is supposedly about ... but, oh, wells ...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:05 PM
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Agreed. I don't think the draft should exist--every person I know who has served in combat doesn't want to be next to a draftee--but if we have one, it should be for everyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 04:03 PM
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Even absent death, pregnancy and childbirth: Takes you away from your job. Subjects you to a harsh lifestyle (unless you enjoy puking for 9-months, your joints popping from weight gain, not being able to sleep until god knows when depending on the kid.) Leaves you with life altering injuries--incontinence is pretty normal for women who've had a lot of kids. It's messy, it's expensive, embarrassing, and may require surgery. Can get you tried and sent to prison if you slip on a fucking step, have …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/16 03:59 PM
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Because this is the internet; which means that you have (a) anonymity and (b) an audience. So the lack of repercussion and the presence of a willing, eager and gullible audience increases the likelihood of any given story - especially if it's incredibly convoluted and looks like total asspull - is simply as unlikely as it looks. As everyone knows, I'm not exactly down with TRP. But I agree ... you can't take a story like this at face value for all the reasons stated above. Of course, it's also w…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/16 03:11 PM
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It would be humiliating for most women. And if they decide you were making a false rape claim you can be charged with a crime. https://www.propublica.org/article/false-rape-accusations-an-unbelievable-story
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:06 AM
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It's a crime; it should go to the police.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/16 04:03 AM
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but if we as women have the knowledge that it will help men feel happy, respected, and desired, then why not give this to them? Because it can go spectacularly wrong. Some HUMANS, perhaps the OP, can take this sort of authority and wear it well. But most HUMANS can't. Ever here about the experiment where half a group of volunteers got to play prison guards and half got to play inmates? It didn't end well. He says his wife can leave if he messes up ... but in reality it is hard to do that when yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 11:05 PM
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Define "handsome." I know plenty of guys who fit the OPs description of himself, minus the long hair, who do just fine with women. Some of them are even gasp Asian (don't think it is the handicap TRP make it out to be.) They are funny and when we were in high school would say things like, "Yeah, I'm still a virgin ... " but be banging the most popular girl in school. (Discretion does work wonders for a man/boy sometimes.) I think the main thing about them was that they really like women. Not jus…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 06:43 PM
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But ... but ... don't you read TRP? WOMEN are the solipsists! Therefore, your argument is invalid. </sarcasm>
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 03:56 PM
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Ummm ... "rock star at life" not rock star. No, I wouldn't be surprised by how "shitty dating a rock star" is, I know women who have dated rock stars. Hence "rock star at life." To me a loser is a whiner who complains about life and does nothing to make it better.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 03:54 PM
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You misunderstood. I mean that I think women would prefer a man who was submissive in the bedroom and a rock star at life / outwardly confident than a guy who was dominant in the bedroom but a loser otherwise. Completely agree that powerful men seek doms.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 03:04 PM
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For some people, it's always turtles all the way down... Bwahahahaha! That is the best thing I've read in a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 12:04 AM
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I thought that most "submissive" men tended to be high power dominants in real life? I think that would be sexier than the guy who is otherwise a loser.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/16 12:01 AM
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Let me rewrite it - if we accept the argument that women can marry 'too young', can they also marry 'too old'? If she wants to have children, yes she can marry too old to have children. But I will echo what wombatinaburrow said ... A bad marriage is worse than no marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 02:45 PM
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Most Tumblr's are what, 16-24? How many 16 - 24 year olds have adult perspectives on life? (None! They can't! Their brains aren't "done." ) Also, 16 - 24 year old girls are "in the belly of the beast." As pleasant as men think it is to be catcalled while you go to buy your groceries, have old men try to invite you home, and to be groped on trains and busses ... it's not. I feel like girls at this age just have shit happen to them every damn day and it clouds their objectivity a bit. That every d…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 12:48 AM
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Damn. The Google isn't strong with me today. I think the original ERA supporters wanted women to be eligible for the draft. I think it's a good idea only if there are all female units. As to effectiveness of women in the military -- I don't think that women are as good in the infantry, but we could be excellent in a medical support task, or something that required computer skills. A majority of women agree that women should be drafted: http://thehill.com/policy/defense/307047-poll-majority-of-am…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 12:38 AM
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I think by the time you're 26 you know what you're looking for and the whole thing goes much quicker. I think a lot of TRP guys don't realize that they may want to get married about the age of 29 (that is the median age for men's first marriage now, isn't it?) and you'll have played the field enough to know what you want when you go on that one date where everything just works.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 12:15 AM
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Forget about men, and lets specifically assume this woman follows the general trend of wanting children. I think marrying the wrong man is worse than not having a baby even for a woman who wants children. There are many ways to express love of children. Women (and men) I know who aren't married but wanted children lavish attention on their nieces and nephews and have strong relationships with them. They get over the lack of children and move on to other things. Women I know who have been victims…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/16 12:13 AM
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I went to a state school that was the cheapest place I could get into. No one cared about athletics. I never even entertained the idea of being in a sorority. I went to one frat party for 15 minutes, thought it was boring, went back to the dorm, chatted with other nerdy girls who were similarly broke, and then read a book. ... I'm not even sure the TRP thing is the "norm."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 08:47 PM
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Statistically, people who marry young are more likely to wind up divorced. Sweet spot seems to be almost 30. http://family-studies.org/want-to-avoid-divorce-wait-to-get-married-but-not-too-long/ Is marriage a lost cause? No, I don't think so. It is the best way to raise children, and it can help you focus on your career. People who aren't attached are always looking.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 08:43 PM
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Unfortunately for women, if you don't get married by a certain age.... people start to wonder what's wrong. Probably depends on where you live. In urban areas I would suspect late 20s to early 30s is more the norm for professional women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 08:38 PM
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I was reading an article (which I wish I had the link to now) that says women AND men are programmed to seek out pathology in partners. So guys may be right about girls looking for the "bad guy" but it is equally true what girls say, "the good guys fall for the bad girls."
/r/PurplePillDebate11/01/16 01:52 AM
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I hope your new year is better than the last. I carried a torch for about 12 years. I hope you do better than I did! We should both get out of these threads and be productive. It's hard very hard, with so many people being illogical on the internet ... but I think the INTP struggle is to let these things go. THE INTP STRUGGLE IS REAL. I may just start posting that instead of trying to logically rebut idiocy.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 11:21 PM
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No, the doc would most likely get prescribed a hormonal pill, not opiates. You're not a doctor, don't pretend to be one. (And that would come with its own kettle of issues--like barfing on a regular basis and headaches.) But period pain can be debilitating and birth can be extremely painful too. But doctors have been denying both until women became doctors and started pointing out it isn't all in our heads.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 11:18 PM
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Yeah, it's Spain. He's not reading his own link.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 11:14 PM
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In SPAIN they receive 29% more prescriptions. Read your friggin' link. "The Research Group on Public Health at the University of Alicante found recently that women of any age, race, or income level were prescribed opioids more often, regardless of type or duration of pain, than men. Women tend to visit the doctor more often than men for pain, but even controlling for that there is a gap of 29% between rates of prescription for men and women. This study looked at attitudes towards gender and thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 11:14 PM
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Err ... did you read your link? "The geography of the study was limited to Spain, but other studies relating to gender disparities surrounding opioids are global." It does say this, "In 2011, a study in the U.S. found that among drug dependent men and women, women tested significantly higher than men when measuring opioid cravings." This means they may become ADDICTED more readily, which could have a number of factors, not necessarily related to rates of prescription. Giving further support to t…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 11:11 PM
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Well here you go ... since you're unable to even skim an article effectively: http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=383803 It's so common it has an entry in a Medical Dictionary: http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Yentl+syndrome
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 06:33 PM
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And of course, it can be professional suicide for men if they go too far: http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/09/21/asheville-blog-podcast-sexual-conquests/72586252/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 03:38 PM
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ESFJs and ESFPs--hard on the S and the F--they tend to be very pretty and Chad's girl friend. Ss also jump from relationship to relationship much more easily. Ns can be too introspective for our own good and move on slowly. Add a T to the N and we can be the hugest romantic idiots in the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 03:30 PM
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What appencapn has described is verifiable fact: http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2015/10/emergency-room-wait-times-sexism/410515/
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 03:13 PM
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I guess I don't get it because when women say something like, "All men are assholes," I give them shit, from a derisive, "No they're not," if it's in person and public. In private I'll give tough love, "You know, if all the men you meet are assholes ... the one thing they have in common is you. Have you ever thought why?" the point is that RP is not nearly as damaging as advertised...but it disrupts the social status quo in the form of a mass-consumed philosophy, which is why it is criticized. I…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 03:09 PM
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I know plenty of women and one man who had great careers who took off from when the kids are born until the kids are in school. A lot of times the HUSBANDS (or the one power wife) don't want them to go back to work full-time. It is very stressful on a marriage to have two parents who work outside the home full-time.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 05:38 AM
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I just looked up her article. She also mentions being afraid of ghosts in a joking way. The difference between this and the "bluster" on the TRP forums (and in Quiverfull and other groups) is that I can tell Meghan isn't being serious. The guys on TRP ... not so much. ETA: Her article doesn't mention the issue that the attackers were reported to be immigrants. That bugs me. I doubt they were Syrian, I have friends over there who say the refugees are polite and scared shitless about being sent ba…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 02:57 AM
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I think family court needs to be reformed, but I don't think alimony should be thrown out the window. If my friend's husband had, say, given up seven of his working years to care for their child (he didn't), and she had ditched him for a sexy pool boy (she didn't), I would say she would owe him alimony based on her current income. Raising children is hard work ... and the one who leaves their career for it shouldn't be left out in the cold. Also, if she had moved him to some god forsaken place w…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/16 02:46 AM
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They tell it to women too. I have a friend who made gobs her first year of business. Then competitors moved into the field. Now she makes good money, but not a half million a year. The lawyers are telling her she has too pay alimony to her husband. Who left her. Because they have a disabled child he doesn't want custody over.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 07:31 PM
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But why can't you just be honest and tell her? So, back when I was in the dating game, guys would tell me by the end of the first date how wonderful it was, how great we were together and blah, blah, blah ... usually after dominating the conversation all evening and using me as an unpaid therapist. (There is a reason therapists get paid.) I would run for the hills first chance I got. (Yes, dearies, even when they were rich and hot.) Not telling a girl you're full stop in love with her right away…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 03:32 PM
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But he's so clever and so pleasant, I don't know how that could be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 03:23 PM
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No, she can't look you straight in the face. This is the internet.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 03:13 PM
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I Love You.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 03:05 PM
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I don't criticize TRP for helping men look better and encouraging them to work out. I criticize TRP for AWALT, saying all women are teenagers, and for not speaking out when their members go on rants about women needing to be denied the vote. Wait? You mean it's not your responsibility to teach the little TRPers to think straight? Why is it women's job to make men shape up?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 02:52 PM
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((Rolls eyes)) No. Gosh, it's crazy, but there are also white girls who not only like programmers but marry Indian and Chinese programmers. It's like all these crazy stereotypes that get thrown around on Reddit are just ... stereotypes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 04:27 AM
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You know, there are above average smarts women out there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 02:00 AM
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Smart people can play with therapists ... which is a problem. Introverts with smarts in a one on one situation can play the worst. You may be too young for CBT to work, too, which doesn't help matters.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 01:58 AM
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Xenmas ... it's you! I was anorexic too. I got really, really, really sick. (Insomniac, anxious, on the spectrum INTP unite!) I just felt so odd, so out of place in my own skin, I thought that if I could just look like the girls in the magazines did, the models who dated rock stars, that it would balance out how I didn't fit. I have every reason to hate men; but I don't. And you shouldn't hate women, either. It's making you spend too much time on these boards instead of building the life you wan…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/16 01:55 AM
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I think I understand this ... it's easier to say, "She's not attracted to him and will divorce rape him!" than it is to possibly admit that he might have a great personality, and she might be attracted to him. Because admitting that might mean facing up to the fact that your personality is really not that hot. (Pro tip: if a guy is truly talented in the sack, his looks beyond a certain level of health don't matter. Sheesh ... the idiots on here who say, "women only deserve to orgasm once every f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 12:17 AM
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Also, reading the thread looks like the guys are just jealous because she isn't dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/16 12:03 AM
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She hasn't divorced him ... so your point is kind of moot until she does.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 11:58 PM
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Do you mean for sex ... or do you mean bad view in general? Because they seem to have a bad view in general of all women regardless of age.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 01:13 AM
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I have PTRPSD. After reading guys say women shouldn't work in skyscrapers since they didn't build them, I'm on a hair trigger.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 01:12 AM
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have no purpose to a society that needs to reproduce. (I'm referring explicitly to the inbuilt natural response to stimulus that humans have). Iwantoliveinspace was implying that it is inbuilt and natural to believe that older women are useless. It's too new to be so.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/16 12:57 AM
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Never rebel to the point of self-harm or make yourself something you're not for someone else. If you're submissive in bed you can still find a man who let's you be an equal partner outside the bedroom. If you're feminine ... ditto. You should be nice--being nice and collaborative works well for women professionally.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/16 02:40 PM
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Big boobs==look fat in most clothing. Some boys can't work out the geometry involved.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 11:53 PM
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Ugh! I had a girlfriend with Kate's body. She did look fat unless she wore really tailored clothing. Her waist was "too thin" for her top and to get a top that fit she'd have to buy two sizes larger. She did do modeling for a while, but was told she'd have to have breast reduction surgery if she wanted to go anywhere with it--unless she wanted to do porn. That Kate Upton didn't do either is something.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 11:52 PM
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So, I know some fat people who genuinely have severe medical problems that do make them fat. For one it is a choice as stark as "go off the steroids that make you blimp out and you will die." Do most people have those reasons? Probably not. But I don't know so have no business pointing it out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 11:38 PM
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Did you see where I said TRADITIONAL HUNTER GATHERER SOCIETIES. How many of those are left? In modern societies a lot of us post-wall, post-reproduction women raise children and have jobs. If you don't know women like that, it is not the fault of half the human race ... it's something to do with YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 11:27 PM
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Actually, older women in traditional hunter gatherer societies tend to be the most productive food producers. I'm not sure about agrarian cultures. Anyway, "useless" older women is a relatively new concept.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/16 01:43 AM
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I suspect the sarcasm is strong in this comment. We've been married a long time ... probably half your life. :-P What is interesting here is guys who think their desire won't fluctuate in their lifetimes, that they won't have a hellish work schedule for a year or so when they're not even home for their wives--and their wives will be sexually unfulfilled and cranky about it, or that they won't get sick enough to make sex impossible for months at a time ... and I'm not even going to get into the l…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 11:46 PM
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Every social group has a "culture". This is true. But the East/West, North/South, Rural/Urban cultures in the U.S. are very different. Surely India and China are the same? Whenever you have geography that divides a population, there will come to be differences--even in a highly mobile place like the U.S.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 05:46 AM
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They will argue it anyway because there's many young women who are very into the "only god can judge me" way of living life I know many women who rail against the double standard; who say that it is unfair, but I don't know anyone who would say, "you have to date me," unless they are crazy. Mostly, I think that they would want to stay away from a guy who had that standard.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 02:06 AM
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at least if it hurts women in some way Define this. If it means my girl friend is going to be pushed up against the wall in a bar by a guy who thinks Japanese women "like it rough," that is one thing ... ... if guys prefer leggy blondes who are very thin and wear a lot of make up--why would I care? He's not going to be attracted to me (I suppose I could put on the make up--but no, I'd feel like a freakin' raccoon.) I'm never going to be leggy. Why spend my energy worrying about it? I have less o…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 01:02 AM
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I don't find men having preferences bad and I'm Ultrablue! Sometimes who you have a preference for is just something that got hardwired when you had your first kiss, you first fell in love, or you had your first hard-on while watching TV. It's not necessarily EVIL. If you think Asian women are super submissive and want to dominate them, I have a problem because I have Asian girlfriends who have been hurt by this stereotype--but that's difference than having a preference for someone's looks.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:51 AM
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There is no "American" culture, really. It varies from boondocks to urban areas, West/Midwest/East Coast, and South and North.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:40 AM
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Yep. He'll do fine if he thinks on his feet like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:36 AM
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That's a zinger. Can you crack them in person like that? 'Cause that would work.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:35 AM
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I know too many white women married to "typical" Asian guys to buy this bullshit. Go troll elsewhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:34 AM
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One legitimate reason for wanting to date someone outside your race (be it white, black, hispanic, european) is Americanized minorities might find more in common with an American partner than those of their own race due to their upbringing. Agreed.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:32 AM
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I actually agree with you ... and look I'm female, and somewhat "blue." Who you are attracted to is something you don't have that much control over.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:30 AM
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You don't have to give up your culture to date someone from another culture. You probably have to be extra aware of it, in fact. Culture does come up in relationships, especially when things are difficult and you have a default setting for how to deal with it. You can use your culture--it's a conversation starter. How did an Indian man/woman fall in love with a Chinese man/woman. How has that impacted your life. Do you have a healthy model of intercultural relationships in your parents relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:27 AM
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I like Asian men; don't care one way or another about height. Are you talking about scoring a ONS? Because honestly, can't help you there as I've never had one. If you're looking for a girlfriend ... Don't tell her how you're dating a white girl because you're rebelling against your parents. If she doesn't have sex with you after the first/second/third date don't say, "Wow, you're like a real Indian girl!" Lots of white girls don't have sex after the third date. That's a stupid sitcom thing and …
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:24 AM
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Yeah, but to say that all women are after them is untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/16 12:11 AM
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Errr ... yes I said if he was pretty he probably had girls falling into his lap. I said I would immediately mistrust him and not. But you know, AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 05:52 PM
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I don't think so. I'm old; if I felt lust to a guy not my husband I'd avoid the other guy. That's 20 year old drama shit that I don't have a place for in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 04:34 PM
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They are pretty ... but are they good in bed? If they're male models they probably don't have to be good to get sex. I don't know ... Last time a guy this attractive approached me I thought he was going to ask me for money.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 04:31 PM
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The lack of lust? It happens to guys too--especially as men age. In my case it's medical related and getting better, I think.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 04:24 PM
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I actually had a crush on not as beautiful guy before Uber-Alpha ... Uber-Alpha I approached, but not as beautiful guy I approached too. The hubbie asked me out.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 04:23 PM
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See comment on medical condition. I'm not attracted to anyone (it's actually getting better; I'm lucky mine was easy to diagnose, but it takes a long time to get better.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 04:21 PM
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But I'm not attracted to CHAD either. I'm not attracted to anyone. I'm recovering from a medical condition as I said, and overwhelmed by kids.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 04:20 PM
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Actually, if you read on, I did make the point--as good looking as he was I was more attracted to someone not as beautiful. And no, I wasn't "alpha" guys "pump and dump." He wanted to get back together after a bit of playing the field. He just was young, and not sure of what he wanted. I actually don't think he is a bad guy, he's not a plate spinner--he doesn't have to spin because he doesn't have to expend that much effort ... but I'm glad I'm not with him. We were both young and unsure really.…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 04:09 AM
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I know, I want to see a link to an example.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 03:18 AM
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Errr ... so I dated an "Alpha" for a long time. (I broke up with him it was because although he was awesome in the sack, intelligent, and handsome, he took me for granted a lot. After we split girls just fell onto his lap ... literally at work within a week.) The next guy I dated wasn't as hot, or as rich, but we had an emotional connection. I could talk to him and he was funny. I adored him, I loved having sex with him; I thought I would marry him. (And then he dumped me at the worst possible t…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 03:18 AM
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Which feminists? Please link to the declared feminists who do this.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 02:57 AM
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So, the best bet for a venture capitalist to invest in is a guy in his 30s - 40s who is married and has two kids. (Might actually be 40+.) I imagine it is the same for someone you're looking to invest in financially. In the midwest and east coast I think that marriage is a signal of a guy who has his act together and has finished the part of his life where he is chasing women and is ready to focus on his career. It might be that on the west coast being just "partners" is enough. But couples wher…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/12/15 02:53 AM
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Can confirm ECoast_Man's take. Most very successful men are married. Most very successful men treat wives as partners because they're busy running a business and need someone to mind home life.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 10:44 PM
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Sorry, no, this isn't true. I know a woman in this situation.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 10:40 PM
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Bullshit. I know women whose husbands have left them due to kids who are sick ... wife is stuck paying alimony to him. I know successful women who are in the same boat as a lot of guys here--they'd rather not marry because they make too much money and are worried the guy would just be in it for alimony.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 10:39 PM
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"she wants to wait till she can be 99% certain I'm gonna be her boyfriend" Duh. And actually, no, I've never been pumped and dumped. Have had to get the emergency pill though when a condom broke. Sucked big time. Spent the day in the fog. But luckily, had a boyfriend who went to the pharmacy with me and let me hang out on his bed and be sick all day and brought me water and then later snuggled with me on the couch.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 05:25 PM
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I'm adventurous when it comes to trying things like kayaking/hiking/travel! Love that stuff. Also, am fine in intellectual debates. Am not adventurous when it comes to picking up men ... eek, scary, hide under the chair. Or drinking. Or drugs. All ... no. Could you join some sort of outdoor club if that is your thing? It might be a great way to stay in shape and meet girls who are into what you're into. If there were other guys around and they made a beeline for them you'd probably get an idea o…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 03:53 PM
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Xemnas, cut it out ... there are lots of men on this board who say: Women are entitled Women need to shut up and settle (no acknowledgement that she might be truly happy as a WGTOW ... I know a lot of those.) Women overestimate their looks! (Although, statistically it's the opposite: http://www.psmag.com/health-and-behavior/louis-c-k-assortative-mating-men-overestimate-level-attractiveness-83197 ) Women are delusional about what is out there (Some guy showed a chart of 1s to 9s and it was weird …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 03:46 PM
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This assumes that they EVER joined the casual sex culture. Lots of women don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 03:34 PM
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Some single girls never get "pumped and dumped"--I've never had a ONS, although I've had LTRs break up with me. Some girls just aren't jumping into bed with you because they just aren't ready for sex right away.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 03:31 PM
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But you do understand how insulting it is? To be the girl that is fine to be fucked, but he doesn't want a relationship with. That already means that he never really saw you as a human being with feelings, who could be hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 03:30 PM
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I read the article ... It's hard to relate to those women. I was reasonably successful, and definitely well-educated when I met my husband. He doesn't have a college degree, and he wasn't rich, but he is really smart and although he isn't outgoing, he is the funniest person I've ever met; he rocks the one-liners. Most of my girlfriends married men who weren't wealthy, or sporty, but who were healthy and who are whip-smart; if not super educated. Honestly, the way the women are talking--like the …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 03:26 PM
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I don't think women feel more entitled than men. There are narcissists on both sides of the fence. I've had a man scream at me to my face in crowded bars when I've said, "Oh, I'm so flattered, but we just met and I'm not ready for that." (He was actually a good looking guy--lean, well-educated, if he'd asked me out to coffee I would have been gung-ho.) Or the one time I had to stay late at work and the guy whom I apologized too for having to miss our date went off like a rocket at me for being "…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 03:03 PM
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Errr ... no, there are hot a guys who like to have a dominatrix type. So fun!
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 04:52 AM
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No, the more likely she is to slip out of the bag because you're crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/12/15 04:48 AM
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I think the term "beta fux" is weird. The guys I know who are like this are at the top of the food chain ... they tend to have kids, are healthy, are successful. But whatever ... ... guys that you are saying are "beta fux" tend to marry successful women: doctors, lawyers, and self-employed women who are high earners. The women are usually only 2-3 years younger than the guys because when you're working on your law degree, doctorate, business it takes a while. So, late 20s, early 30s. Well past "…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/15 04:20 AM
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Why does TRP make blanket generalizing statements about women all the time?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 08:00 PM
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I dated Asians almost exclusively before I got married ... Asian guys reading Ocean Squeeze, don't buy the hype.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 12:30 AM
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But we didn't know how genes worked for most of our human history. For a while we thought it was fine and dandy for siblings and cousins to marry each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 12:24 AM
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I think it is difficult to know how much is nature and how much is nurture. There IS a sociopathic gene (or collection of genes.) But not everyone with it grows up to be murderers: https://www.ted.com/talks/jim_fallon_exploring_the_mind_of_a_killer?language=en That said ... a society can become peaceful in a relatively short period of time if the government steps up and takes care to be a fair arbiter of justice. Xenmas posted some links to a really interesting series of videos on things that ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/15 12:20 AM
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I linked to that site because it explains how the myth of the 50% rate became fact in a a few short paragraphs. Here's a longer, more in depth explanation: http://family-studies.org/what-is-the-divorce-rate-anyway-around-42-percent-one-scholar-believes/ I went to Wikipedia for sources--CDC does say first marriages have a 29.1% risk of ending in divorce in ten years. No follow up data for second marriages.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 03:45 PM
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There are some people who think that what we consider desirable changes with a societies needs. For instance, in violent societies women are more likely to select men who can defend them and their children, with worries about being beaten by said man secondary. In less violent societies women are more likely to choose less violent men. I think I saw this in a documentary about the inheritability of sociopathic traits, and how it might play out in the Middle East and other places. I'm not sure ho…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 03:28 PM
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Verifiable facts? WHERE? the fact that women only find 20% of men attractive, Please cite your source. divorce rates being 50+% Errr ... NO. The divorce rate isn't and has never been 50%. https://www.truthorfiction.com/divorce/ and 90+% of them being initiated by women 2/3 of all divorces are initiated by women. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/women-more-likely-to-initiate-divorce-new-study-reaffirms/
/r/PurplePillDebate27/12/15 04:36 AM
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Humans rarely survive without other humans. Women in hunter gather societies typically provide around 80% of the calories. Men provide big game. Would animals attack without males? It's hard to say, most animals are afraid of fire and a woman can wave a torch too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 02:45 PM
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Humans aren't chimpanzees.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/12/15 02:42 PM
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I can confirm that self-made millionaires tend to marry. Also, I've been to the Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year Awards. The first person the guys always thank is their wives. Usually, while simultaneously crying and telling a hilarious story about their marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/15 03:17 PM
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It's impossible to answer without knowing the guy in question. In some guys, it's just they need to clean up a bit, and learn to talk to girls as people. For some guys the problem is much deeper. I have a friend who is successful, and very attractive ... and he can't get a girl friend. He is extremely religious, but his demeanor is very effeminate. All the women I know put his extreme religiosity together with his effeminate behavior and think he is covering up his homosexuality with a girlfrien…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:58 PM
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Baldness is not a turnoff to me. Comb overs are.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:46 PM
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I think a lot of RP bitterness isn't because so many women are riding a CC--I think the problem is women are actually more chaste now than they were in my generation. http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/wellness/dating/story/2011/03/More-hookups-on-campuses-but-more-virgins-too/45556388/1 So you have some girls who are sleeping with a select few men, and the rest of the girls focusing on their studies and a lot of guys who want to have sex but can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/15 02:42 PM
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He had debilitating stomach ulcers. His doctor came forward and said he'd spent most of his life in debilitating pain. Normal people don't become addicts. He HURT. Literally.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 10:33 PM
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Errr ... if you read the last paragraph in my post I don't find fault with some of those divorces if the men treat their wives in ways some of your brethren deem acceptable.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 10:24 PM
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Data: https://veneremurcernui.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/male-female-2002a.jpg But it actually shows that men who are promiscuous are more likely to divorce, although the effect doesn't seem to be as profound. Also, there is this: http://family-studies.org/sex-and-divorce-whats-the-connection/ Education seems to matter a lot, too ... or perhaps just age of first marriage. Wish it was broken down by gender. I've seen guys on these threads mention that they don't think women deserve to orgasm dur…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:25 PM
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http://www.babycenter.ca/thread/550233/feel-like-husband-loves-kids-more-than-me http://www.popsugar.com/moms/Why-You-Should-Love-Husband-More-Than-Kids-37228260 (Her view is met with outrage from many--but support by experts.) The point is ... it varies. Look up "Husband loves kids more than me" ... there are about 69 million posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/12/15 04:09 AM
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I don't want to be the center of a man's world. That's crazy shit, not Blue Pill, just stupid. Your SO should be important, but not the center of your world. You should both be working on other dreams and schemes--your partner shouldn't be the dream--it's too much responsibility for anyone. Likewise, someone who wants you to put them at the center of your universe has some serious issues.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 11:03 PM
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The statistics don't bear out what he's saying. There are some women who will go for a "hook up" every weekend (although that may not mean sex, it can mean kissing random guys you hardly know. I don't know why that is bad actually. I would hate having sex with guys I've just met, but kissing sounds fun and harmless.) Also, virginity is increasing in college: http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/wellness/dating/story/2011/03/More-hookups-on-campuses-but-more-virgins-too/45556388/1
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:47 PM
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Most relationships don't work out because we learn what we want from them and choose more wisely next time around. Most marriages don't end in divorce. That is a myth that has NEVER been true, even at the height of the 1970s boom. https://www.truthorfiction.com/divorce/ Now divorce rates are about 11% for college educated couples: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/marriage-isnt-dead-yet/
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:39 PM
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Girls under 18 CAN get pregnant and are a lot more likely to die from it if medical help isn't available.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:31 PM
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Because they are aroused doesn't mean the woman has orgasmed. Anatomy lesson time: When you masturbate do you NOT rub your hand over your frenulum? Because that is what the clitoris is, the frenulum, that sensitive spot just below the head. Go ahead and jack off with no stimulation of the frenulum. Do you really get off on that? Most guys I know need stimulation of their whole shaft.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:28 PM
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Please, state this POV with every woman prior to having sex with her. Please, pretty please, please ...
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 10:23 PM
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That could be hundreds, thousands of dollars, hours down the drain and a buttload of heartache all because you ignored the simple fact women replace men easily SOME women replace men easily. SOME men replace men easily. I certainly stuck around way too long in bad relationships with guys who replaced me REALLY fast. I think it would take my husband all of a week to find a girl ... it is nerve wracking, but the thing is I can't live in fear of that. (Though it can be hard. I'm not as emotional as…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 07:10 PM
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How many people have severe anxiety though? I have approached men before. I've been in relationships with guys that lasted years who I originally approached. It went badly for me ... I wasn't their romantic ideal and they took me for granted (by their own admissions.) I was too young and too stupid to realize I should expect more. Stepping back, taking years off being anyone's SO, and watching my girlfriends, I began to realize the usual reason guys didn't approach was 1) not into that type of g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/15 04:27 PM
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You just gave the guy a shit-test. Shit-test? As in most men are shits and I didn't want to deal with a man who didn't see me valuable enough to get up the nerve to approach me? I actually don't believe most men are shits ... but okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 05:03 PM
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Nice thing about waiting for the guy is that if he has the nerve to ask, he's got nerve in general. He's less likely to take you for granted, too and won't think you're desperate. Guys here say women control the SMP, but I really feel men control the RMP. If you want commitment, I feel like the guys approach you are showing that they think you're something special. They are willing to risk rejection to get you because they see you as valuable and appealing, and they don't think they can wait bec…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:24 AM
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More younger people cohabitate because they're not ready to get married ... and then they get married because they think they should not because they want too. If you want to cohabitate, but not get married, there may be a reason. Maybe subconsciously you know it's not right (or one or the other isn't interested in marriage at all.)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:12 AM
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No reduction in the pool of men who will want her for marriage. And the pool that does want her will be higher quality.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/15 01:10 AM
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it can reduce the womans pool o fmen she considers good enough for marriage and the pool of men that will want her for marriage Yeah, whatevs ... I have a masters degree. Hubbie doesn't have a bachelor's. I didn't care ... he, actually, did care about my brain. But I think it signaled to him that I was serious and reliable. I also had no debt, got scholarships, and was completely financially independent--he knew I didn't go to school on my parents' money. (I was the one loaning money to my paren…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 11:45 PM
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I would be interested to know who qualifies as "most men." I'm guessing not men in the top 5% of earners. They marry doctors and lawyers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 11:39 PM
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I live in a neighborhood where the typical family earns 150k a year. Successful men interested in building a family and wealth are definitely interested in women with goals who can be solo breadwinners if needed. Even very successful men in careers that seem recession proof can go through bouts of unemployment--even a doctor can get sick enough he can't practice. They might not care about the goals of people they're sleeping with ... but LTR, yes, definitely.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 11:37 PM
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This is based on a false premise: that most marriages in the U.S. will end in divorce. That has never been true. Even the "50% of marriages will end in divorce" claim has never been true. The exact statistics aren't known but I've seen anywhere from 11% to 33%. Waiting to get married, not living together before marriage, being college educated, having parents who didn't get divorced are also predictors of marriage success. https://www.truthorfiction.com/divorce/
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 11:29 PM
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I can understand that starving yourself and hardcore workouts are not for everybody, but a low-carb diet and mild workouts ? Should be doable if you are not severely overweight. She also may not even be technically overweight. As long as she is getting plenty of exercise she's probably healthier than someone who binges and starves themselves. (Fasting is good, binge eating is not.)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 11:17 PM
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Tbh, she has exactly the amount of body fat I can't understand. It's actually harder for women to lose weight. Men can exercise without cutting calories. Women have to cut calories. It can get hard when you have kids and work. Being hungry can make you snap at your kids and distract you from work. https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/weight-loss-it-really-is-harder-for-women-research-shows/2014/08/12/0a95c1aa-1d9b-11e4-ab7b-696c295ddfd1_story.html There are also hormonal issues. :-P
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 11:15 PM
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Women in the western world have been taught to minimize or ignore these differences, leading to a heavily inflated sense of physical competence and strength. I think outside of political shouting matches, ordinary women know their limitations and go out of our way to avoid risks. Most women don't want to be in combat, construction workers, oil rig workers, etc. Most women are aware of their limitations. Check out the number of women who are firefighters: http://www.nfpa.org/research/reports-and-…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 08:03 PM
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But like I said, legitimate health concerns are the exception in these cases. The vast majority of people that get 100 lbs., as stated in the OP, obese are not sneaking a pizza here and there or, as in your situation, have a legitimate medical issue. There is often a character issue that runs far deeper. Maybe, but I agree with the people above who said this is a very unlikely scenario. Most people who enjoy working out and being active aren't going to gain 100 lbs. A person who has been obese b…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 06:54 PM
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Really? That's MILFish? I feel about 100% better about not weighing my 24-year olds self's weight. Also, I don't understand what men find attractive, apparently.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 04:06 PM
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That's true. Some women who are "overweight" but work out a lot will look curvaceous and toned. Ditto for some men who are technically "obese" (well, not curvaceous in the same way!)
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 04:03 PM
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I gained a lot of weight after my second pregnancy--didn't get obese but was definitely overweight. I kept kicking myself for being lazy--but exercising made me pass out. It turned out to be a health problem. After treatment I was able to lose weight without dieting; I'm still losing the weight now, so slowly ... not overweight anymore but definitely not 132 lbs like I used to be. If a person who has ordinarily been in shape most of their life starts gaining weight I would say it is probably an …
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 04:01 PM
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Said up thread I had an encounter with a serial rapist and got away. You may get beat up if you fight but you may not. It's sort of a bear and wolverine situation. A bear will win a fight with a wolverine, but it might not be worth the trouble.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 03:18 AM
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I actually took self-defense courses and they were very helpful. They teach you that it is okay to fight and be mean and aggressive when you feel threatened. As someone who managed to get away from a serial rapist, I can't stress how important this is. ETA: He approached me with a polite offer and I went bat shit. Afterwards I felt bad, like I'd over reacted (I nearly hit him with a heavy inanimate object) and then I found out he'd been raping women in my neighborhood.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/12/15 03:12 AM
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Isn't this true for men as well? My husband dated much more glamorous women before me, and younger women, too. When he was looking to get married I think he was looking for someone he found attractive, but wouldn't blow his fortune.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/12/15 06:43 PM
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You don't even need to move across state lines in most cases--just out of the city.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 08:36 PM
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It's still a little different. In major cities $500k may be close to the average price for a home in the U.S. But in my mum's neighborhood (Northern U.S.--45 minute train ride from major financial hub) you can get a home in the 124K range and even less if you'll do an older condo unit. If the average price of a home in all of the UK is 500k ... that means the exurbs and suburbs are still too expensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/12/15 08:36 PM
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Something not commented on, Japanese men treat mothers with young children like shit. Sure on the busses and trains there are signs that encourage people to get up for the elderly and young moms, but when I was there (10+ years ago, mind you) they really didn't do that. The coarsest American man will jump up for a pregnant woman--and look down on other men who don't. In Japan ... no.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:24 PM
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Okay, revise my previous statement. I think the idea that flexible MARRIAGE isn't happening in Japan is true. But yes, Love Hotels are a big thing and one-night stands seem to have been too, judging by the business of my neighbor at night.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:20 PM
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I have lived in Japan, and I would say all of this is true.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/12/15 07:17 PM
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Not a study, but an account of one all-female firm. One anecdote does not make something true. It sounds like the woman in charge was a bad manager more than anything else. And really, hiring based on gender is stupid (as she did, hiring only women.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 06:28 PM
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There was a show on prostate cancer on NPR. Researchers came on. You know what they said blew the funding for their research? Not enough men were willing to participate. So they got the funding ... but no participants. Like breast "cancer", more men die WITH prostate "cancer" than OF it. However, more women are willing to do the wait-and-see approach and to try new therapies. Men are more likely to just immediately go for the most aggressive known treatment and not try new treatments. Knowing tw…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 04:47 PM
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But they didn't when there was one. My bio dad had a rich connected daddy. He didn't go to Vietnam.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/12/15 12:45 AM
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Lots of military men and women in my life. None of them wants to serve with draftees. None. You don't want your life to depend on someone who is dead set on not being there. Fun fact: the military has less sociopaths than the general population. Why let them into an organization where lives depend on cooperation?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 10:20 PM
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Length of relationship matters too. Married of cohabiting, the first year you'll be going at it about 4 times a day (or more.) Kind of hard to maintain that without loosing your job, family, friends ...
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 05:38 PM
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We agree on something!
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 05:37 PM
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Actually, a lot of literature (and romances) is about women who have "standards" changing them, if not "lowering" them. (I don't think eschewing the rich guy with multiple degrees for the self made man who has no degree but does run his own business is "lowering.") There are also "Alpha Male" romances out there ... but those are more like porn for women. I don't think women take them seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 04:20 PM
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What? Why shouldn't men have standards? You absolutely should have standards, especially for the potential mother of your children. Not wanting a woman who is obese means you want someone healthy--and weight in particular is something controllable, so the fact that they aren't eating right/exercising indicates a lack of self-care/emotional issues. Falling in love with someone who has a chronic disease over which they have no control (type one diabetes for instance) is different. Wanting a girl w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 04:12 PM
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I actually looked back and found that the quote I'd read was wrong. He is a state rep from Kansas and this is what he said: http://www.yourdu.net/Articles-News-c-2014-01-21-181982.113118-Rothlisberg-claims-quote-about-OBGYN-services-was-misconstrued.htm Here is what he meant to say: "I did come out and say a man should not be required to pay extra premiums for a woman, for example, for OB/GYN," he said. "I never said a woman should not have the coverage." I think this is shit though. If women ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 04:04 PM
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Maybe the author doesn't, maybe she is a horrible person. But why does what she does have anything to do with the rest of us? Because she's writing in a magazine? There are men who say that women over 50 don't need gynecological care who are in GOVERNMENT--a little more power than a journalist.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/12/15 12:51 AM
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It is possible. I've known 24 year old virgins who were motivated by their careers--although, actually, one was motivated by being hit by a guy on her first date with him. She didn't date again at all until she was 24 after that, and was kind of jaded towards men.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 03:39 PM
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Uh, there have a lot of us blues who have been commenting here and not saying that at all. What posts are you reading?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 03:10 PM
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I know guys never believe it ... but there aren't that many women who are focused on penis size. If you make up with it in other ways--creativity, confidence, a talented tongue--most women won't care.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 03:08 PM
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She's not attracted to you and probably isn't getting much out of the sex. You are new at it, and maybe not doing a very good job at it either. The Asian/short/not conventionally attractive is a cop out--sorry, have dated a "not attractive", shorter than me, Asian man and the sex was awesome because he was creative and responsive. (He broke up with me, not the other way around.) Finally, even if she did want to have sex with you all the time, dancing "sexy" might be something she wouldn't be abl…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/12/15 03:05 PM
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Can we define what "marrying up" means? Does it mean marrying a man who earns more, or does it mean marrying a man outside the social economic class a woman came from? This makes a great deal of difference. I've read that only at the high and low end do women really "marry up" (i.e., daughter of millionaire marries a billionaire--daughter of a cab driver marries a manager.) Think it was in New York Times thing, but the only thing I can find right now is this: http://www.jstor.org/stable/2092885?…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/12/15 02:12 AM
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If you go back through my posts you can see stats I posted for BenGunnSilver that show that young people of both sexes are more chaste than they were when I was in college. As for hypergamy--I don't think women are always looking to "trade up." I do think women want an emotional connection, but I think that after a certain level of success most are pretty happy. I do think women care more about a man's earning potential--pregnancy and caring for small children are things that can really mess up …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 10:05 PM
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I don't know what the blue/red distinction is. It really confuses me. I don't think any of the behavior you've outlined above is at all acceptable. And yet, I don't believe in AWALT, think hypergamy is pretty much bogus, have shown guys with statistics and charts that the "cock carousel" is made up, and obviously, think the idea that I should be property of a father or husband is ridiculous.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 05:27 PM
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Maybe it's not the "provider" role, per se, but they worry about themselves dying and not being able to look out for you. If you get injured, family is a lot more likely to be there for you than friends. My dad had a health crisis in his forties and if it weren't for his father, and then me, he'd be dead or homeless. His "friends" sort of magically disappeared. So, eh ... they may have a point. (My bio father divorced my mom years ago because "she didn't understand him", so she wasn't in the pic…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:53 PM
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Xemnas, from the way you describe your ex she sounds like she was outgoing and social. I've known girls like that, and they have turned into unicorns for the guys they're with--but their husbands are superbly outgoing and social. They work crowds together, and boost each others careers and it's really cute! ... and it would drive an introvert out of their friggin' minds. They are out almost EVERY FRIGGIN WEEKEND. Oh, my god--the parties never stop. It makes me tired and stressed just looking at …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:44 PM
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I'm sorry your wife put you through that. I think it is just as possible for women to emotionally abuse men as the opposite. If your wife had continued to be that way it would have probably have been best for you to leave the marriage--it would have taught your sons that it was acceptable to be the punching bag, and daughters that it was acceptable to be a nag. The "red pill" / "blue pill" dichotomy in this case seems strange though. What she was doing wasn't "blue pill." She was being an ass, p…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:35 PM
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although if you're just looking to get laid it's probably a good strategy to follow the law of averages. I admit it. But NT girls are worth keeping. ;-) (I don't know if that is true--guys like to complain about how women are emotional, but I think a lot of them like the drama and playing savior.)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/12/15 03:25 PM
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Statistically, most women might be more emotional thinkers, but there are odd balls out there. Approaching that girl with the typical approach will fail--although if you're just looking to get laid it's probably a good strategy to follow the law of averages. If you want KEEP a rare and wonderful INTP/INTJ girl though, you'd better get to know her.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 11:53 PM
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I wish I could up vote this a thousand times. I've known compulsive liars and they just wreck the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 11:32 PM
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People do change. Alcohol addiction is a major factor in divorce. It's a progressive disease if not consciously halted. So you can marry someone who likes to drink now and then who becomes a full fledged alcoholic. If they're willing to work at it and try to get better I would say leaving them is like leaving someone with mental illness--morally wrong. HOWEVER if their alcoholism spirals into other problems: gambling, serial infidelity, or physical harm to the other partner or the children you h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/12/15 11:24 PM
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"Women control the dating market at all ages. " No ... dating implies "commitment." Men control the commitment market. Most women aren't Amy Schumer. The best part about getting older is the decrease in cat calls and weirdos following you home.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 02:37 PM
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The "glass floor" sounds more like they are deliberately being saved (and there are some charities that specialize in women and children, although as some have pointed out, it's more that homeless women are more likely to hide, too. So ... both.) The "glass ceiling" is to, a great extent, because women take time off for children. But there is also some misogyny involved as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 01:19 PM
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I think there are several factors: Men are more likely to be geniuses. They're also more likely to be idiots. (Women clump more in the center.) It's harder for an idiot to find a job than someone with average intelligence. Drug abuse is more common in men. It may be because men are more likely to have untreated mental illness--or simply that men seem better able to get illegal drugs. https://archives.drugabuse.gov/NIDA_Notes/NNVol15N4/Prevalence.html Mental illness may be more prevalent in men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 04:22 AM
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Good for you working with the 9 year old set! They're super cute at that age. Able to talk about big stuff, but not yet cynical. "It was very obvious they needed to get some fresh air and run about a bit sometimes, the difference in their reading performance and motivation/mood was remarkable." I know. In the U.S. 1/5th of elementary school kids are being treated for ADHD ... in the U.K. it's 1/100. It's crazy. I think a lot of it is lack of recess. We used to play outside before school, and the…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/12/15 04:15 AM
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Mentioned it before, but I'm actively fighting to get homework loads reduced for elementary schoolers in my community. Fought for recess as well. I've actually had some success. I think that long hours behind a desk are really bad for boys who have more energy (it's also bad for girls, but it isn't as noticeably detrimental--with girls I think the damage is mostly internal.) Most of my fellow reformers are parents of boys who don't like seeing their normal exuberance pathologized ... most are al…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 04:01 PM
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She didn't KNOW he was a douchebag. And as I said, FIRST and LAST date.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 02:35 AM
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See my other post about the dissolution of Marriage 2.0 being overstated.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 01:37 AM
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I have no idea if the Good Christian (TM) was rich. I never asked. He didn't hit her, it was emotional shit. The guy who physically abused my other girlfriend on their first and LAST date was politically connected, I think that made her more nervous than if daddy was just "rich." He was probably good looking, from what she said about him she was really flattered that he asked her out. I think she felt like a princess.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 01:37 AM
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or maybe you have some not so latent sexism and fear towards men, nurtured by your radical feminist brainwashing. So if we have interesting female friends who build businesses, conduct research, and go to interesting places, and we enjoy those relationships because they can never be misconstrued and can never be sexual (even at 40 I've been hit on) we're radical feminists who've been brainwashed and hate men? What did I miss?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 12:29 AM
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You're not the only one. I have some girlfriends who have never been married and never want to be. It's just too much trouble for them to live with someone. I was single for three years--completely, I went on a few dates, but nothing ended in more than kissing. I did enjoy that time, but I actually like being in a relationship. That time did make me understand what I really needed in a relationship though. Marriage is hard. Mine has been a challenge, but I think if he didn't challenge me so much…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 12:25 AM
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Actually one of the two was in the relationship her parents wanted her to be in. (He was such a good Christian!) The other went out with a guy whose daddy was politically connected and on the first date he slammed her against a wall. She was too afraid to tell anyone. So, no, not really a "hooking up with the handsome alpha" in either case.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 12:12 AM
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I don't know if it is the norm. I think it depends on where the divorce happens. In places where there is a social stigma against divorce I think women probably don't do so frivolously. I know one woman who said her husband was mean to her ... I think a guy who is shouting and screaming all the time can come around sometimes if it's clear you will leave, so I'm not sure about that one. (And I had a year like that in my own marriage.) She isn't dating again, and seems really happy not to be marri…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/11/15 12:05 AM
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He has, in all but name.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 08:15 PM
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It said "Women" not "24-yo women." And plenty of women I knew in their twenties have stepped away from dating for long periods of time--years even--after being slapped around by an asshole or generally abused. They focus on their friends instead for long periods of time and are quite happy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 08:14 PM
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Xemnas, I don't believe in your hypergamy crap, but if it were true, wouldn't a woman only need a man until she got pregnant then she could siphon away his resources via the state?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 02:52 PM
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Xemnas ... come out of your fog dude. Maybe this is true in messed up places? I see most women who've divorced not wanting to get married. I come from an area where divorce is extremely rare, and the ones that divorced did it because of pretty serious reasons: serial infidelity, and violence toward the kids. The ones were the men left it has been precipitated by a kid with a serious mental illness--that's one of those things they never talk about--families with multiples, sick children, or child…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 02:43 PM
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I have my dream job. I'm married ... if I hadn't been married or had kids it would have been easier to obtain and I would make a lot more money. As it is, I can only work part-time unless I wanted to put my kids in day care.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/15 02:32 PM
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I'm ditzy and intelligent. Good thing I'm not in the dating pool.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 11:19 PM
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Nothing is wrong with being attracted to youth. But not being attracted to women your own age is weird and problematic. You'll never be able to seriously bond with someone. "Good job in diverting the attention from what I am saying." Your comments about 18-22 year olds riding the cock-carousel I've already disputed with, you know, facts. But you keep saying it. I can't take you seriously.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 07:58 PM
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I'm sorry about the med reasons. What is Camp America? I will say that as a deep introvert, going to Japan felt like going home. It wasn't a place where I had to be loud to get attention. I'd be pushing you to just GO without the PGCE or anything, but gaijin regularly commit suicide in Japan, and if you have those tendencies, going overseas might not be a good choice without some sort of support network. You said you have a friend there, though?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 07:53 PM
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I'm also an INTP ... told you, I'm you with two Xs chromosomes and 20 year head start.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 07:47 PM
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I've been told I'm at least 50% red. INTP Female
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 07:18 PM
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You have teaching experience? Could you ever follow your friend to Japan to teach or do you need to stay close to home for med reasons? Does being close to home make your situation worse? It did for me. I was so depressed before I went away to college.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 03:50 PM
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You are even admitting in your posts that you don't completely buy into it. I've only seen a few examples of TRPers in real life. Two wound up losing the girl and one wound up with a restraining order. (The other just kept freaking my friend out with drunk calls at all hours crying on the phone to her about how he was wrong.) The others never even got the girl--my girl friends thought they were just plain mean. There was a post a while ago here where some TRPer was saying "How does TRP hurt anyo…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 03:46 PM
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You can't ever know 100%, but I have heard that people who flaunt the law a lot are more likely to be rapists. I.E., blowing through stop signs and street lights. I met my husband on line. He suggested a first date in daylight, at a crowded place. I really appreciated that.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 03:28 PM
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Usually in what they want to pursue as a career, but that doesn't mean "rich." It means "successful." You can be an awesome highschool teacher here in the U.S. to at-risk kids in the inner city and not be "rich", but it would be attractive anyway. Ditto to a guy starting his own business.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 03:22 PM
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I don't trust your judgement at all BenGunnSilver. A TRPer who has oneitis on top of a youth fetish. Nope. Just can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 01:10 AM
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I've only known one or two women who give a rats ass about "dong" size. In most cases it was, "It was too big, and it hurt," Or "he has a big penis and thinks it makes him great in bed. Ugh!" followed by eye roll.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 01:09 AM
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Definitely they liked guys who were successful. But I didn't think they were all that hot. Successful usually translates into passionate about something other than the gym, and that is what they liked. My girlfriends weren't stupid, and they liked intelligent guys.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 01:08 AM
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Some of my past boyfriends said they were just lesbians trapped in men's bodies.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/11/15 01:04 AM
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Just read your WHOLE post. Sorry "sexual inequality" seems the LEAST of boys' concerns. I'm not actively doing anything to solve this. I'm worried more about other areas where boys are falling behind. Like school. Most of boys' failures are a result of too much homework, too little play time. Working to fix that. I am all for prostitution being legal, though, and would vote for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 04:05 PM
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I doubt any woman can relate, maybe a few outliers. I strongly suspect that women aren't really aware of how the male sex drive works and society is conspiring to make men and women as much unaware of each others sexuality as possible. I think that many men though don't understand WOMEN'S sexuality either. I see guys here all the time claiming gorgeous women are out all the time "riding the cock carousel" and "banging Chads". I'm not gorgeous, but I have had a lot of gorgeous friends. They weren…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/11/15 03:41 PM
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As someone with two X chromosomes, I agree with you. Obviously, a person who purposely gets others passed out so s/he can have sex without consent is a rapist. But I think in most cases it's probably both parties being inebriated and not having perfect judgement.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 09:42 PM
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I actually am not one of those "women and men are the same" type of people, but history backs me up on the relations of men and women being variable. (Again, see point of Egyptians and Romans vs. Ancient Greeks. In Roman women didn't have as much power as men, but they could own property, often directed business affairs, etc. Ditto Egypt. Not so in Greece.) Nurture is built on top of nature, always. Sure, it is. But the way different societies build on top of nature is different. Women across cu…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/11/15 04:37 PM
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Quoting Ecclesiastes to make the point that TRP is about nature and biology (you know, science) is ass backwards. Human society and therefore "nature" is fluid. The Greeks were misogynists, the Romans and Egyptians were much more egalitarian.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/15 02:08 AM
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Also, the OP of the post completely misses the point of 50 Shades ... the woman REFORMS the man. She changes him, and instead of a sadist billionaire gets a reformed sadist billionaire who LOVES her. ... and it was Twilight with sex, which a lot of older women wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 03:19 PM
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See, I notice this trend here accross the board, that everytime you cite study that does not go hand in hand with RedPill ideology, people start to denying them start throwing accusation of bias around. This reminds me a little bit of conspiracy theorists. Bing! Bing! Bing!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 03:05 PM
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I think this says more about the women YOU know. The women I know financed their younger siblings' educations, paid for their own with scholarships, and lived on their within a year of graduation.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 03:04 PM
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Nope. I don't that because a girl is pretty she is having sex with lots of men. What I saw, it was often the opposite. The girl with low self-esteem having sex with lots of men. Even the very pretty women I know not interested in marriage tend to limit it LTRs, that never last more than a year, and they have long spells between.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 01:50 PM
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Unattractive men are actually punished more in the work place: http://www.businessinsider.com/a-few-surprising-facts-about-physical-attractiveness-and-income-2011-11 Also, says here that women are more likely to rate their attractiveness accurately (common TRP thing is that women all think they're gorgeous.)
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/15 03:10 AM
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Hmmm ... well this attitude may explain why men are slightly more likely to leave a sick spouse ... they're just being rational! http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/12/men-more-likely-to-leave-spouse-with-cancer/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 11:15 PM
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Actually, at least in the U.S. women are statistically less promiscuous than they were when I was growing up. (One of my college professor friends has commented on how chaste her kids are compared to how people were when she was in college.) That's anecdotal of course, here is something meatier: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/27/health/27well.html
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 11:06 PM
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A woman with a drug/alcohol problem or emotional issues isn't "trading up"; she's drowning herself. I think the distinction is important because in one case you despise her, in the other, you understand her. Both cases you stay away.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 01:28 PM
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The problem I outlined is that the behaviour they are concerned about ... And the n counts they describe that occurring at.... Just do Because of their insecurities they are ruling out perfectly non-promiscuous women due to insecurities about THEIR count and THEIR lack of experience. Yes, I agree with you, and your numbers as far as "high" N count goes. I think an older woman is more likely to have had more partners too, even if she's always been in LTR ... so a woman at 30 who has an N count of…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 01:23 PM
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I think there is legitimate reasons to be wary about a woman with high N count. None of them covered in the OPs original post. The big one is a lot of times women who sleep around do it out of low self-esteem or a problem with drugs/alcohol. These things men should be wary of. You can provide a woman with positive reinforcement like TRP suggests (telling her she's beautiful and flirting with her), but a personality disorder or alcohol/drug addiction are going to be above your ability to cure. Al…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 02:24 AM
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This was very positive and effective advice!
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 02:00 AM
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And with AWALT I didn't mean that they turned out to be hypergamous slutty psychotic manwhores or something. So what did you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 01:37 AM
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That statement doesn't reflect badly on me ...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/11/15 01:32 AM
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A lot of guys confess to being aspies, in another thread they admitted to be in low twenties. No I'm not OCD enough to pull up the links. Go ahead and say whatever you want about strapons and Blue Pillers. If a real alpha(TM) liked his prostrate stimulated he wouldn't let your derision stop him.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 03:28 PM
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Not red pill, but my husband doesn't live in fear of divorce rape or cuckoldry. It would be a waste of his time and energy.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 03:10 PM
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The TRP and MGTOW approaches are both duct tape solutions to a fundamental distrust and anxiety when it comes to women that doesn't really exist in the typical male's mind, who sees women as individual personalities rather than a collective group all trying to hurt him. Yes, a lot of guys here are very young and a lot of them are on the Aspie spectrum.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 01:17 PM
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No, just in decent shape is really fine. Wrong! ; ) If I see a guy who is too ripped I automatically assume he never eats a piece of cake. I don't want that life! (No, not overweight by body fat, but chubby by Hollywood standards.)
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 12:54 PM
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No, I am german. I think local culture has a lot to do with it. I'm in the Northern part of the U.S. in an urban area where divorce is low and people are rarely obese (sometimes chubby, but obesity is rare.) When I saw the pictures of Oregon after the recent shooting I was shocked by the obesity epidemic that seems to be going on there. Sometimes I come here and I think I'm living on a different planet. in my mind every man has to strive for a built and ripped body. No, just in decent shape is r…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 04:30 AM
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"How dare you break up with me! Asshole!! Douchecanoe! Shallow son of a bitch!" Who talks like this? I'm so confused. I've never had a relationship end this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 04:23 AM
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Where do you live? A small town perhaps? I don't know people like this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 04:21 AM
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My experience is that both parties put up with sh!t they aren't crazy about for one another. But I'm older, married, in an area with very low divorce.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/11/15 04:19 AM
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Yeah, I know nothing about women ... nothing at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 07:35 PM
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Hey, he's welcome to move on, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 07:34 PM
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He should be pushing for sex and escalating with her as far as she'll let him go. The limits on how far she'll let him go tell him how much she values him. Comments like this worry me. I think when you're dating someone you should be making out all the time like crazy. It will give you an idea if you like each other's sexual style. But if you get angry about her saying, "Wait too far! Not ready!" and push too fast, you'll lose her.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 05:53 PM
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Well, the point is that women will give sex more easily to Chad because "she has lower standards for that kind of short term thing", whereas for Bill, who is "relationship material", she has "higher standards", I actually think when they're young a lot of girls think they have to sleep with the guy they're interested in to "seal the deal." They're told by television they are supposed to give it up on the third date. He may not be a Chad like you guys describe, BTW. Just Joe Schmoe but she likes …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 05:44 PM
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Hi, I thought it was not relevant to the conversation. You know, I'm not sure why husbands lose interest. I kind of don't like to know about it, so don't ask for details. In one case though, I think the husband has a chronic health condition that probably plays a huge part. In another, I think the marriage was on the rocks, there was unemployment and money issues and I think the guy was just depressed. (Contrary to popular belief, depression will mess with men's libido, too.) ETA: In the first c…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 05:02 PM
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I don't think you have to work too hard to do that. I think it is a trap. It's too easy for the counselor to side with one-or-the other client. From main stream media source: http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-04-09/features/sc-fam-0409-marriage-counselor-20130409_1_couples-therapy-relationship-counseling It has some good tips for finding a counselor who actually will help.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 04:34 AM
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(Or wear a onesie in a coffee shop whilst smirking arrogantly. That would be even worse.)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 12:33 AM
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You started that thread? Missed that ... knew you were out of university. Hypergamy refers to how easy it is for women to replace you given their options. From what I've read it's more about how they WILL replace you. But I think emotional connection and shared experiences are important. I won't deny it would be easy as a woman to replace a guy if all you I was interested in was sex and/or a wallet. But I haven't--even before I was shackled with rings on my fingers and two kids and I had richer …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/11/15 12:32 AM
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" Girls are always looking for bigger, better, hotter, richer. " No, sometimes girls have other priorities than finding a man--or finding the next man. I know this is scandalous, but we do have other interests. OP may very well be an ugly ass who no girl wants to bother with. Or he could be approaching girls who are out of his league. Or he could be approaching girls in a way they think he just wants to be friends. OP ... do you have any friends who know you in real life who give you perspective…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 11:48 PM
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Do you want a woman's perspective? I'll give it to you anyway! Looks are important. You don't want to be with someone who doesn't turn you on. That is a BAD. IDEA. Society's standards of beauty are kind of warped though. It would be nice if you were attracted to someone with a healthy BMI (i.e, not too thin, not fat either, but a girl who is technically in the healthy range would be called fat by Hollywood.) If you're not, I am sorry for you ... A lot of TRP's hypergamy is nonsense. Women/girls …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 11:26 PM
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Actually, she may be passing you over for a whole host of reasons: she is in an LTR and is loyal, you're higher SMV be damned. She isn't interested in a relationship right now. She is interested in women. She is only interested in ____ (insert Asians, African Americans, guys with red hair.) For hit and run types of approaches: she is running to an appointment and frantically trying to avoid being late. She's trying to study damnit and is too freaked out to notice how awesome you are. She doesn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 06:36 PM
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My strong reaction is: What a terrible ad campaign! He looks smug and annoying--and he shouldn't look so annoying in a campaign to get people to sign up for health insurance. The guy would probably look attractive if he weren't wearing a onesie, kind of makes him look 12 and eww ... yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 06:33 PM
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It's fine if they're frustrated he barely talks, but what I read was mostly hating on him, betaq-shaming for not being the life and soui of the party. It could of been the particular link I went to ... I didn't see that. Something about guys who are the "life of the party." They almost always abandon their dates. I feel fine splitting up from my husband, but I like that he checks in on me every once and a while (and I do the reverse--then we're ready when it's time to slink away like the true in…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 03:37 PM
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"I've noticed a lot of women do that to guys our age but not older men, e.g. my neighbour is friendly with my dad but not me; bitch shield?" Is your neighbor your age? She might be afraid to lead you on. If she's older ... something sad but true ... after learning about TRP I'm more wary of young men. If I smile at them they may think I'm flirting with them, which they'd probably find gross, and it would be so insulting (hated it when men twice my age tried to pick me up.) As a result I've been …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 03:35 PM
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I'm old, but when I was younger I ran from aggressive TRP men like they were a house on fire. I was probably "super cute" but not gorgeous (healthy but not model skinny, ever.) I liked guys who were confident about their careers and were "Nice". There was one time I didn't date a nice guy in highschool who I probably should have dated--but I think, subconsciously, I liked him so much I was afraid of becoming too attached. I had an unhealthy home life and knew I had to get as far away as I could.…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 04:15 AM
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P.S. when I was in your situation I tried to set up one goal for myself only. I tried to make them reasonable. None of them were boy focused, all of them were what I wanted to do with my life. Once I succeeded in one small thing, it made it easier to try a slightly bigger thing, and then a slightly bigger thing. It took a long time, but I think I mostly have landed on my feet. I still have a lot of insecurities and every few months have a sleepless night due to anxiety attacks. I lived in nearly…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 03:29 AM
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I went to one of the links. What they complained about most was not wanting to have to make them talk to them. I think if you are awkward in social situations and hang out in the kitchen and only talk to one or two people; that's probably fine. If you don't chat with your SO though she'll get bored and probably frustrated. Read your checkout line story ... Hmmm ... I've been treated abominably by checkout girls, too. And I'm female. And the particular witch I have in mind was perfectly fine with…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 03:17 AM
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I don't think it's the provide+protect thing because I've walked away from friendships like this. It gets boring, really fast. And being bitter keeps you from being a true friend; bitter people tend to think everything happens to them and no one else has faced adversity. In reality, most of us have faced adversity in our lives. There are some people of both genders with caretaker personalities though, that seem to enjoy bitterness. Maybe it makes them feel healthy and strong? I dunno.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/11/15 12:05 AM
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Xemnas, men and women who are healthy will reject bitterness -- I think depending on the individual social awkwardness if it is cheerful is fine. As an extreme introvert married to another extreme introvert we understand each other and make a break at parties when we feel overwhelmed.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 11:49 PM
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I hope it clears Xemnas.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/15 03:56 AM
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I don't believe women care about anything men achieve except that which will serve them in the long run. Bullshit. I'm sorry your mommy doesn't love you, but bullshit. I've pointed you in the right direction to live your dreams Xemnas81 because sometimes you show inklings of self awareness, and because I've been lost and don't like to see other people flounder, and yes I have a lot of the same problems you have if not fucking worse ... but I'm incapable of love, and now I don't even know why I b…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 03:41 PM
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I'm sure that .06% of the male population in the United States has had bad experiences with women and believe AWALT. That doesn't make it true. (.06% is a stretch because that doesn't account for people from Canada, UK, and Australia also joining in. For perspective, 7% of U.S. citizens believe that the moon landing was a hoax.)
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 03:43 AM
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I think you just proved his point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 02:53 AM
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(Not important, but how did her husband go from looking reasonable to looking like THAT in 8 short years?) Married to a crazy person is stressful?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 02:39 AM
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No one got butt hurt over it, and they enjoyed it ... but it was because it had the sex for Twilight in it, which they really enjoyed, so it was kind of a big laugh, "Read 50 Shades to finally get the sex." However most of them said the sex got really boring and after the first time they skimmed to get back to the good parts--the relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 02:37 AM
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And if a study disagrees with what you believe it must be untrue.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 01:13 AM
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Who do you think bought 50 Shades of Gray? The fanfic community! I think you have it backwards, they are afraid of their own sexuality, so they put men into it to distance themselves from their desires. A lot of young women are the most aggressive, angry feminists. But part of it is being in the belly of the beast. Men here like to say that men and boys are just as often abused--but that is when prison is included in surveys. That is terrible ... but in the normal population I think girls, and g…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 01:08 AM
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LOL. Women here are probably all deep NTs and not representative samples at all. I've got two XX chromosomes and I admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 12:57 AM
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I actually think that letting the man ask a woman out has to do with men controlling relationship markets, whereas women control the sexual marketplace. If you have to ask a man out, there probably is something else going on: he's married, in a relationship, doesn't want a relationship, isn't that into you and isn't going to be that into you. Ever. If a guy asks you out it shows that he's made an investment in you. His interest is pretty high. He's more likely to be interested in a relationship …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 12:56 AM
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Men and women are different. We're allowed to say that here, right? Most women DON'T want to live their fantasies. http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/news/a32718/female-sex-fantasies/ Most men do.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 12:45 AM
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Women are better at separating fantasy from reality than men. Also, if you read OP's post, it says women want to be "taken" in the context of a loving relationship by someone they trust.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 12:42 AM
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Most women I have known liked it despite the BDSM. Of course they loved that the protagonist is assertive and leading and stuff, but they would have prefered it if there had only been rough sex instead of BDSM. Yes, I think this is true. I only know one true masochist among my girlfriends. Also, if you read the article OP linked she said women want to be taken in the context of a loving relationship. I'd also add, they probably want to be taken in a way that allows their needs to be met.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/15 12:40 AM
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She was a reporter? They're rich?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 09:04 PM
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I think more than the BDSM thing it was about a rich man taking women out of poverty. The whole story is how she "tames" him and gets the security of wealth. I don't think it would have been so successful if it hadn't been released at a time when a lot of men had lost their jobs (the recession was sometimes called a "mancession". They fantasized about wealth as much, if not more than the sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 08:22 PM
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Look, you could be for real about your six figures, I don't know. I'm saying, the guys who I see who are into TRP and confess it in real life have sucky lives. For the record, recognizing talented people despite preconceived prejudices works well for anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 08:20 PM
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All my girlfriends read it as sort of a joke. So ... I dunno?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 06:55 PM
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It's not murder. It's not a person that can live and breathe outside the womb. I think most abortions aren't on "whims." I have to admit, if I got pregnant now and I was going to have a baby with serious birth defects, I would abort. Fun fact: divorce happens more often in families with a child that is severely disabled. I wouldn't want to take resources away from my living, breathing children. It's expensive enough, and hard enough, to raise a "normal" child.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 06:48 PM
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Yes, it's not close to what TRP would advise, but that is what is happening with the people in real life I see getting TRP advice. They're glomming onto the woman hating and forgetting the good parts of TRP--self-improvement--because that is hard. As for my data being anecdotal. Every man on TRP who is bragging in a field report is only anecdotal ... and possibly not even real. (Yes, I realize that means you can discount my "anecdotes" as being false, too. No, I'm not going to out myself.)
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 06:40 PM
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How old are you? Where I've run into TRPers they've crashed and burned. One of my girlfriends had to get a restraining order on a guy who was big into TRP. In a professional sphere I saw some guys "out" themselves by posting some Roosh V shit as "truth" about women. That ... was bad for them. Maybe you guys are successful with women, but I don't think you're at the higher echelons of anything productive. I've worked with men who are entrepreneurs and run successful businesses (we're talking bill…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 03:49 PM
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Sort of like TRPers?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 03:33 PM
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In the SMP a woman might only need to be hot. But in the RMP she needs to be accomplished, chaste (in comparison with her partner), and hot. Guess which women want more?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 04:06 PM
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Even if you win, in a foreign country the law may not be exactly on your side. You could wind up going to jail ... not cool. What he did was perfect. Especially in a group oriented culture. The thug will be so shamed by his mommy to his coworkers.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 01:38 PM
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Any woman who disagrees with red pill is lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/15 12:49 AM
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These are women on the internet on freakin' Reddit. We probably earn a lot more than the average woman, so care less what a man earns. It's probably a representative sample of Reddit women.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 10:53 PM
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female have dated them didn't bother me marriage/LTR yes ... but ... The guy I dated who was making less than me broke up with me. So ... yuck. I think he wasn't doing what he wanted to do with his life and I was moving forward while he stood still and it created all sorts of problems. I'm married now and sometimes I make more, sometimes I make less, but my husband is never lazy. He has his own business and a lot of clients and told me before we got married, "I don't have a problem with commitme…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 10:38 PM
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I think this is okay, as long as she knows why the affection is going away.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 04:57 PM
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I had an SO in college who only was physically affectionate when he wanted sex. It was one of the things that killed the relationship for me. I felt disconnected and didn't want to sleep with him anymore. Cuddling is foreplay, isn't it? You can use it to keep her interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 04:36 PM
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I have so many female friends who've confessed their sex drive has remained constant but their husband's has gone down.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 03:02 AM
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Did you go look at the study to see who it surveyed and the questions? I didn't because it required a sign up for the abstract and a payment for the whole thing. It would be nice if someone could at least post the text from the abstract here. Whenever you read about studies in the newspaper (especially an opinion piece) they're suspect. " Women do like sex. And women do have urges. And women don't necessarily want committed relationships at any given time, and there is no longer any shame in hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/15 02:59 AM
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No, most of my friends and I married AFTER 25. I'm anti-misogyny but I'm not anti everything the red pill teaches (one of the reasons I'm here is that I'd like to see a happy medium in gender relations.) Clean up, shape up, get your own life is great advice for men AND women. The media may have unrealistic expectations of beauty, but being obese isn't healthy. (Mostly I think men find healthy women attractive too, being perfectly skinny like magazines is some men's ideal, but not what most guys …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 11:22 PM
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I would agree that there would be an age difference. 23 is still young and I think a girl should date around a bit to see what her deal breakers are. (I'm not going to say "sleep around" here. It's okay if it comes naturally, but knowing what you like doesn't mean you have to sleep with every guy you go out with for dinner.) I think mid-to-late 20s is actually a good time for a girl settle down. Hopefully, by that time she either has her career, or has worked out how to get there. She will also …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 09:58 PM
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antariusz's point, or the point of the author of the article? Most of the women I know got married after 25. High SMV men actually want successful women. I know TRP says otherwise, but I think that a lot of successful men don't frequent TRP because they don't need it. As for the point of the article ... why shouldn't men be more picky instead of women being less?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 08:22 PM
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Yeah, she did do much better in the end by every measure. But she married a guy who hadn't finished school, but was on his way to great things ... so maybe he appreciated the risk she took in him more? Maybe that's why Spock and I think it might be better to catch a guy before he's made his fortune, but when he's on the right trajectory?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 06:58 PM
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I would agree that the 30-35 year old man who had his shit together would do well with the 26-30 year old crowd and above. I guess the one thing about guys who have "made it" is that they sometimes are so worried about gold diggers that they turn women completely off. One of my girlfriends went out with a guy who was ready to find a wife and he told her flat out he would expect her to work even after kids. She is incredibly successful, but she also had younger brothers and sisters and knew that …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 06:30 PM
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But it worked out great for me ... I think when guys get older they DO get pickier. Right before me the husband dated a 22 year old (she may have been 21) and decided he was done. As for a black book filled with "Chads", I do know a lot of "Chads" if by that you mean attractive, athletic, ambitious guys. Here's a shocker ... they are often very nice. A lot of them genuinely LIKE women, and not just for sex. They do interesting things and are interested in my business and family even though they …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 06:24 PM
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I'm not sure how you can judge an article like this without looking at the original study. How old were the women polled? Were they college grads? College students? What was their income? Were they average women, or attractive and high achievers? Were men pulled from the same pool? Speaking as a woman who has worked since she was 12, put herself through grad school with two jobs, graduated debt free with $20k in the bank, was earning $50k when she graduated (this was over 10 years ago, mind you)…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 02:53 PM
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You just wrote a page long poem to a girl. Now we all suck. How old are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 01:33 PM
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You didn't understand the poem. You can't help what you're attracted to and I feel sorry for you. You've put this young lady on a pedestal that may not be healthy for you but definitely wouldn't be good for her. She's human. She has feet of clay. Her looks will mature. You didn't understand the poem; it was about loving someone for being human. No one has eyes like the sun. That said, this infatuation/obsession may be healthy for you right now. You are young, in school, and subconsciously you kn…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/15 01:28 PM
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You can't help what you are attracted to I suppose. Just as a thought: https://www.poets.org/poetsorg/poem/my-mistress-eyes-are-nothing-sun-sonnet-130
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 10:09 PM
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I am sorry you feel so alone and cut off from women. Most people have low self-esteem, no matter how beautiful. As a woman who had gorgeous friends, and was only "cute", I gotta ask ... are average women so horrible?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 09:41 PM
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You asked a loaded question.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 09:31 PM
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Xenmas, when did you stop beating your wife? Listen to Greasy Pole please.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 07:58 PM
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It's funny ... I was just reading that women mature emotionally slower than men because we are unable to compartmentalize our emotions as well. I looked at a whole bunch of posts on the intertubes -- yes, girls begin the pruning process of memories earlier than boys (on average) but I'm not sure how that relates to knowing what you want to do with your life or who you want to spend your life with. Some things you learn through experience, and experience can only be had by living.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 07:54 PM
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A lot of guys can't figure out the clitoris! If you can, young man, more power to you! Actually, science is pretty clear that until the age of 25 our brains are still developing -- and the smarter the individual the longer I think it takes. I think that may be the real reason geeks tend to be late bloomers. http://mentalhealthdaily.com/2015/02/18/at-what-age-is-the-brain-fully-developed/ As to the comment about only chasing Chads ... I think I pursued guys who weren't long term material in my ea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 04:59 PM
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Hmmmm ... I'd have to think on it. How old are you talking? I feel like 25-29 is probably a great time to find a guy. You probably know what you want to do with your life then, the guys who are only interested in young girls are no longer interested so you no longer have to figure out if that's the only reason for their interest, and hopefully you know what you want in a guy, too. Also, if you want children, although fertility declines in the 30s it is still pretty high. But maybe after 30 isn't…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 04:49 PM
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In the 18-25 period we have a lot of options in men, but at that age they are just babies (and so are we!) There are reasons the Romans didn't let men under 25 sign legal contracts ... So we have less experience than a 30 year old, have hormones that still make us unstable (men do too, see previous comment about Romans) and need to choose a life mate. Odds are against it. I've seen so many people change radically from 18-25 ... I don't know if it is really so great to choose a life partner then …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 01:53 PM
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It doesn't matter if you, as a woman, are hot are not. A lot of guys aren't good in the sack! High risk of STDs, high risk of pregnancy, sex where you've got a high chance of never orgasming ... Why the hell bother?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 01:50 PM
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This is all true ... except maybe the small penis part. Even at 40 I could probably get sex if I wanted it. But the thing is, I've never wanted a ONS. Also, a lot of men aren't great in bed. The vagina isn't an inside-out penis, but a lot of guys get seriously emotional when they can't just plug it in and bang orgasm. The first thing they do is blame the woman. But on top of the sex likely being really bad, there is still the worry of unplanned pregnancy and women are more at risk of getting STD…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 01:48 PM
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I think Roosh's friends should put him on a suicide watch. The guy is getting weird(er) and depressed. Hanging out with white supremacists who call him a "mud" for instance.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 02:46 AM
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I tried reading the first link; and I have tried reading him before. The female supremacy idea is weird. Let's say, I haven't felt it. But you've had a bad mother experience and I've had a bad father experience and bad grandfather experience. On my biological father's side it was made clear that I was a lesser human being. In a way it set me free ... my dad and my brother spent their lives waiting for my grandfather's money. I knew at age 5 when my grandfather was going on about how bad it would…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 02:42 AM
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I'm not surprised. I think maybe you're here because you need to write, but you also need feedback. Writing a novel is hard because the wait for feedback is so long. There are lots of online workshops that are free to join. Why don't you go to Kboards.com and sign up, then drop a line in the Writer's Cafe? Let people know what your genre is and ask about FREE online workshops. Lots of people will help you. Some people there can be rough and say there is no such thing as writer's block, but I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 02:26 AM
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Glad you got out Xemnas. Baby steps.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 02:15 AM
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Xenmas I'm sorry. Is there something you'd like to do but think it's too crazy to even dream about?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/11/15 12:37 AM
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Because viewing women as subordinates will bleed into other areas of your life that don't involve getting laid. Especially if you have a job that involves you interact with women as customers, investors, or partners. It may also serve you poorly as you leave the sexual marketplace and enter the relationship marketplace. Some married red pill things are great. There are things about Married Red Pill that are just "manners" reworded to make guys feel more macho. Advice like, "reward her for good b…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 10:49 PM
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Xemnas, I love you man ... but just a thought, someone who has to put the "word" rationale before the word "male" in their online handle is probably about as "rationale" as the woman who keeps telling herself she is a "strong and independent" is strong and independent. (Real strength comes from interdependence, and, especially for women, in cooperation.)
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 10:36 PM
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I'm sorry, I wasn't clear. I'm not talking about the supposed 3/4 pay wage gap that gets touted in some uninformed circles. I was thinking more of the pay gap on the macro scale where men do jobs that women sometimes can't do (or do as efficiently) due to physical factors: heating and air conditioning guys, oil rig workers, mechanics to a certain extent, plumbing, etc. Jobs where strength is a factor. All of those jobs pay well and don't need a college degree. A woman might have to get a college…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 10:23 PM
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Maybe, but I think that if you're talking about "better experiences" with 20 year olds that those happened in the 20s. I think that if a guy is dating upper 20s early 30s when he's 35 yes, he'll have a lot of options. But TRP says we're expired by then and that he'd never want to date us at those ages. :-P
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:21 PM
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I'm going to agree with OfSpock here TheGreasyPole. I think maybe the resident may be more attractive to 30 year old women, but as a 25 year old I would definitely be more attracted to the 25 year old poor student I thought was going places. It would feel like we were going places together, vs. an older man who I think might just see me as a nice side dish to his life.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:18 PM
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Uh ... the pictures I've seen of "otters" they have prominent shoulders over lean muscle. Think Tom Hiddleston--he gets way more love than Chris H.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 07:10 PM
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Hubbie worked himself into an upper management position at a Fortune 500 company without a college degree. BUT I think that is easier to do if you're a man. I think men receive more respect. I think that a college degree is MORE important to a woman if she's going into the corporate world because she is at a disadvantage for just having two X chromosomes. (I think studies have shown to make the same amount of $ as a man with a highschool diploma a woman needs to have a 4-year degree.) That said …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 06:47 PM
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I like ottermode a lot . I thought there were a bunch of online surveys that pretty much showed that shoulder to hip ration + lean muscle was king?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 06:42 PM
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I agree that we should suspend judgement. At the same time, I don't like the idea of nodding and agreeing when people say things like that divorce doesn't affect the kids. I agree with people above who say that it is probably better to be a latchkey kid than to be in a household where parents fight all the time. But in a house where the "spark" has gone out? I'm really not so sure about that. It's just logistically harder to be there for your kids if you divorce. It can be done ... but a lot of …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:34 PM
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Well, I'm in the states, so you know--a place with lots of guns. Though I think in the U.K. knives are often used for muggings and such? I went to a library for some exclusive research books I couldn't check out or get on interlibrary loan ... it was in a sketchy neighborhood and I had a buff beautiful boyfriend who said, "I'll pick you up!" He was over 45 minutes late and it was getting dark, the library was closed, and I was out on my own and I was scared. He did it again a few other times in …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:31 PM
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Hey Xemnas ... I was afraid that if I said that I wasn't thinking about doing him someone would ask about that ... but really, he was too old for me. I didn't like dating older guys when I was younger; why would I want to date a guy who only was attracted to young women in their 20s? Being 20 isn't something I could do forever, and I knew it. Now? I don't know. I'm probably a job snob--not that I'm attracted to megabucks (walked away from guys like that) but I am interesting in people with inter…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 05:21 PM
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Infidelity, addiction, dishonesty, abuse. .. .sometimes the smartest thing to do is walk away These are all reasons it's more ethical to walk away. But that's not always the reason people get divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 04:52 AM
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Married only 11 years. Everything you said I agree with. People who are honest admit that marriage is HARD. People change, and you have to recalibrate if you're going to continue. But yeah, the book that is quoted in the article, if you go back and read other articles on it, turns out divorce is hard on kids. Kids are about twice as likely to have issues like depression, etc. if their parents are divorced.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 04:50 AM
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Anyone who brags about how strong they are probably isn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 01:43 AM
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Are your guy friends who can't get anywhere with women only hitting on the German women who also look like models? TBH if you're hanging around models ... the circles you run in are interested in that sort of scene, and the normal guys probably wouldn't do well. I'm in tech and I was hanging around techies. I thought European men were in general more attractive than Americans and I'm quiet and healthy and they really liked me. It was loads of fun not having to be a party girl to talk to attracti…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 01:16 AM
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From where I'm sitting, I'd say the reverse is a myth. Maybe your friends aren't as attractive as you think they are? Maybe there are more men in Berlin than women or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 12:17 AM
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A couple things: I haven't seen the beautiful woman fat / funny guy phenomena in Germany because my time there was short. I'm wondering if you're talking about German men not being able to pick up beautiful German women or American men not being able to pick up German women? From talking to Germans I know they find Americans loud and annoying (and they complain that American women are all fat--so American men aren't the only ones to complain!) If you've got American male friends not succeeding w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 12:15 AM
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Huh. Okay, well from samples taken in Japan, Greece, the U.K., and United States I've seen lots of beautiful women marry fat funny men who cooked. Can't comment on Berlin though because I haven't lived there.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/11/15 12:01 AM
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LOL. Wish I could upvote more.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 11:58 PM
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Where are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 11:57 PM
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Uh ... no. Sorry, I know lots of not-hot guys who are short and not beautiful with beautiful wives and girlfriends and wives. Maybe you don't know what charisma is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 11:56 PM
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I said it before, but I'll just bring it up again ... I worked in a clinical setting with a guy who had third degree burns that melted off an ear and left disfiguring scars on half his face. He actually couldn't shave because of the scar tissue and had to just trim his beard short because the scars went through the hairline. He was also short. BUT he was killer funny. He had a girlfriend when I knew him who I would call pretty (but I'm a girl and when I think a girl is pretty sometimes men say, …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 11:54 PM
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I'm sorry you didn't have a dad to tell you these things. I know you said you were able to move past TRP, I guess as a woman it is really hard to not see guys who refer to a woman as "it" and say we don't deserve the vote and not become more feminist, though. There are a lot of things that I don't like about feminism "men and women aren't different it's all society" being a very big one. But at least they believe I have the right to vote. Also, my biological father was a complete asshole and see…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 11:44 PM
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I'm very curious where you get the 65% stat. That is really, really high. The more scientific studies of married couples say the rate of cheating average including the young under-twenties who are more likely to fool around is 12% for women and 22% for men. The rate of women who cheat in cohabitation arrangements is about as high as it is for married men--20%. Dating is higher than married women but less than that. "plus I fully expect a lot of women to lie about their infedelity in surveys etc.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 11:38 PM
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I think women when they look for a husband/boyfriend we are looking for emotional protection more than physical protection ... with the caveat that we do look for men who won't be late when they're picking us up from a dangerous location. (That's physical--but a buff guy can fail that test and a physically weak man can pass with flying colors.)
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 08:24 PM
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le gaze, toxic masculinity, rape culture, kangaroo courts on college campuses, cat calling, nice guy tm, etc. The list goes on and on. I agree with some of this ... I hate the kangaroo courts on college campuses. And actually, one of the leaders in reforming that is a woman. But hey, that doesn't fit the narrative. Also, I think this country has a "toxic individualism" culture, not "toxic masculinity." But "nice guy tm" is a problem. A lot of guys who label themselves that are pretty much a-hole…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 08:14 PM
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I think TRP does work because in the short run because it does stress: Your appearance does matter Don't put women on a pedestal (which is actually dehumanizing in its own way. No one can remain on a pedestal under scrutiny ... we're all human.) Telling women when you first meet them all your hopes and aspirations and fears doesn't work. I fucking hated when men would do that to me back when I was single. You think that you're giving a gift--the gift of trust. But you're actually giving a burden…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 08:09 PM
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Gold.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 07:57 PM
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Women who cohabitate are more likely to cheat. Probably because they feel emotionally untethered. http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2013/03/22/how-common-is-cheating-infidelity-really/
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 07:54 PM
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"many women" can mean 30% of women and be true ... but completely miss the mark. ... goes and hunts the internets ... Finds this: "The study also tells us that a significant proportion of women (30% to 60%) evoke themes associated with submission (e.g., being tied up, spanked, forced to have sex)." 30% to 60% is a wide range--one is technically a minority of women too... and "forced to have sex" is kind of ambiguous. Might not be rough at all. Also key was this: "Importantly, unlike men, women i…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 07:47 PM
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I guess with a name like "the red pill" I shouldn't be surprised.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 04:38 PM
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"Women want the best man they can get." Yes, but that doesn't boil down to richest/most handsome. I had a choice of a lot of richer men than my husband, and more handsome men, but none funnier. And I wouldn't dump him for a funnier guy/more handsome guy/richer guy. Over time an emotional bond grows stronger if you nurture it. It's worth a lot more than those other things. If I left him or he left me it would be like a death. And if he left me I don't think I'd want another man for a long, long t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 04:37 PM
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"But you dont open up to her about how much you hate your job. " Of course you do, or she'll start thinking your withdrawal and depression is you disengaging from her and she'll start getting ready for you to leave by distancing herself emotionally. Share with her what you'd really like to do--and figure out a way to make it happen. I have so many friends who've flip-flopped on the bread winner role as one or the other takes time to start their dream job and a temporary pay cut. "And nobody play…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 04:28 PM
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Your faith is women is simply higher than ours. Seeing as you have no empircal evidence to support your claims, that's all it is. The study you cite actually shows men are more likely to cheat than women. Here is a little more breakdown of the statistics: http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2013/03/22/how-common-is-cheating-infidelity-really/ "We may all be losers, but they're losers pulling mad pussy. " You believe everything you read by anonymous posters on the internet? Some of the guys giv…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 04:22 PM
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"Rough/dominant" sex isn't a one-size fits all strategy either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 04:11 PM
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This is fiction? How does it relate to RP, BP, or anything else?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/11/15 03:56 PM
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I think there is a combination of factors at work. I do think women are less interested in coding, but some of that may be social pressure when they're younger (I was dissuaded from taking higher mathematics by one teacher in HS even though my scores were very high.) There might be also an issue of women needing more sleep and having less stamina. The startup culture is intense. That said, despite said hiccup in HS I worked in tech at a university and then later as a free agent. I did face some …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/11/15 04:19 PM
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Funny that they don't promote a lot of female news anchors or corporate executives. Or even guests on news shows ... I don't think they have any ideology except ratings and corporate sponsorship.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 04:41 PM
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Nurses make good money, and for certain situations male nurses would be better. Hairdressers, at the upper echelons, make really good money. And on the subject of haircutting ... men tend to be better with spatial relationships than women (on average, not an absolute.) That would make them really good at hairdressing. A lot of guys like being on their feet and working with their hands? Why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:08 PM
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The media is dominated by men. It's owned by men. Most of the broadcasters are men. The media likes to make every man seem like a potential pedophile because it sells. They literally say, "It could be anyone." While technically true, you're more likely to find pedophile's among the criminal element. It's easier to rationalize "the toddler was asking for it" when your brain is also crazy enough to rationalize, "holding up this convenience store clerk at gunpoint is a victimless crime!" (Knows thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 03:05 PM
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No, definitely don't feel the same as the OP. Even when I was younger. I'm sure there are women that do, just like there are some men who really can't perform without an emotional connection.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:59 AM
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When was this? I think it is definitely changing.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:36 AM
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Weird. I hear this, but about 1/4 of my white women friends are married to Asian men and before I met my husband I dated a lot of Asian guys. (Husband is a first generation immigrant of European ancestry and he has a lot of the qualities I liked about my Asian boyfriends: works hard, doesn't make excuses.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:35 AM
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I can't speak for ThowEDQuestion but random sex with strangers ... ew. He can be really hot, but it just doesn't work without the emotional connection for me. Plus, I'd be worried the whole time about STDs, unplanned pregnancy ... still without those, yeah, want the emotional connection. And just because a man is beautiful doesn't mean he's good in bed. That takes some time to figure out; preferably out of the sack. (Is he good at making out? Does he push too fast? Those things.)
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:30 AM
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When I hear "tingles" I think a man wrote this or she is experiencing the onset of a yeast infection.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:27 AM
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I've read that you're more likely to have better outcomes with a female doc in the ER. Also, that although male doctors are more productive there is some thought that they may cost worst down the line with poorer outcomes: https://www.advisory.com/daily-briefing/2013/10/21/do-women-make-better-doctors-than-men (In the U.S. in particular, procedures are money makers and over prescribed, while wellness is under prescribed.) Still up for debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 02:25 AM
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I think that there are now more female med students than male. Law might be the same.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 12:13 AM
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Yes. We need more male teachers.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/15 12:13 AM
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You forget pregnancy and childrearing as a barrier. (It still is a barrier.) It's intense, and before formula had to go to a mother or a wet nurse--which you had to be rich enough to afford.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 05:52 PM
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Huh? More men are geniuses. More men are idiots. More women cluster at the middle. I don't think that shows men have a slight IQ advantage (except at the upper end of course.) https://www.quora.com/Do-men-have-a-wider-variance-of-intelligence-than-women Also, one of the leading experts in the field of IQ has said that there really is no difference between men and women: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/beautiful-minds/201207/men-women-and-iq-setting-the-record-straight
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 05:49 PM
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Only if you want ONS: https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/1uqym6/as_a_guy_i_wanted_to_know_what_it_was_like_to_be
/r/PurplePillDebate05/11/15 03:02 AM
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I think it depends on where you live. There is a social stigma for divorce in some circles. I live in an urban, liberal area, where the average income is probably around $150K. Most of the women work part-time, but there are a few full-time career women and a few stay at home mom types. In short, it's the type of place where certain conservative politicians would lead you to believe divorce is socially acceptable. It's not. The women in the neighborhood look down their noses at divorce. Free pas…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:51 PM
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It is one of the more popular male fetishes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 05:09 PM
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Are you out of your mind? " Most men don't knock up their affair partners." For most of human history there was no birth control. Of COURSE he could knock up a woman and wind up with more kids to support. The OP is about how from an evolutionary perspective men cheating was no big deal, but women cheating was.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:34 PM
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" A 20yo woman will mostly be approached by men in a narrow age range around her own. It's unlikely she will end up with an extreme outlier, but that doesn't mean she isn't/can't be attracted to men outside a standard deviation." Uh, no ... I was approached by older men all the time in my 20s. I just made it a policy to have an excuse to extricate myself. It wasn't always their physiques I found unattractive, I found the idea of the age difference unattractive. If a guy thinks that women his age…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:24 PM
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A woman's SMV is based almost entirely on looks. Eh ... beyond a certain level of general health, I think that in reality men are really happy to find women who genuinely like them and are nice to them. I think the Economist did a study of it, and they concluded that men still wanted in women what they wanted 300 years ago: pretty, accomplished, and chaste. Although the definitions of all three have changed a bit. I know Christian guys in their 30s who wouldn't date women who were virgins (or yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:17 PM
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Umm ... actually those beta Index Funds tend to outperform the alpha's over time.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:06 PM
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Bullshit. SO MUCH BULLSHIT. But you wouldn't believe me because I'm a woman and what would I know about what women are attracted to? Oh, wait ... I see your little out, "to take all of the women worth pursuing." So you're basically a 5 but wouldn't TOUCH a woman who is a 5 because that is beneath you? You deserve to be alone.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:05 PM
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I have told him countless times that if he dislikes his job, all he has to do is let me find one. But then that's another thing you've done for him ... and you're already pretty unhappy about what you've done for him so far. He smells a trap and he's right. Also, The Wall is kind of a joke. On my mother's side there is a lot of divorce. The women always find men right afterward, TOO SOON in my opinion. Can't you find something you're passionate about that you can DO where you are? Can you join a…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 04:02 AM
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I think it's different for women though. Also, she's had babies, is probably exhausted, and might not be feeling attractive or even interested in sex. Also, in her post it sounds like she had oneitis. I don't think they got married "just because" I think it was love. But those initial fireworks are really hard to maintain long term.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:44 AM
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There are nuggets of wisdom in just about every philosophy that's why they seem to "work." You shouldn't leave, a father is important for kids even if you can support yourself; I would agree with the RP women there. Not sure how many of them have kids. It is hard to have mind blowing sex with little people in the house, and little sleep. It's hard to even approach sex when your SO makes you feel like you're their second best option (the negging that TRP promotes isn't good in an LTR.) It's also …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 03:41 AM
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I was right where you were a little while ago. A little better off because I'd gotten skills that are marketable, but I put them on hold for the kids. Okay, first, are you healthy? Go get a blood test. I know after kids your body isn't the same, but if you're gaining weight and unable to take it off you may have anemia. It's very common after pregnancy. Seriously. Get your blood tested. Check for Vitamin D deficiency while you're at it. Both will make you depressed, and you sound depressed. Seco…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 01:28 AM
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That law is one of the ways I think feminism has gone around the bend lately. I am dealing with the way our schools treat boys at the moment though (with other mom's of boys), I guess I'll get to that as my son gets older.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 01:00 AM
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" Its not like all of the men who are 10/10 are emotionless tontos without charm or without the ability to be funny." Eh, I'm sure their are unicorns, but a lot of 10/10 guys, although they may be brilliant and can be sweet, they often didn't have to work for attention when they were younger so they just didn't develop that charm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 12:56 AM
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"What is the problem with people having to pay the price for their actions, especially women?" Why "especially women"? What is the punishment for men?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/11/15 12:54 AM
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Why can't I give more up votes to this comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/11/15 03:13 AM
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Some of the fittest, best looking guys in my high school went to Harvard and Stanford and were National Merit Scholars. Being in shape is good for your brain. Really smart people figure that out.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 11:25 PM
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I think it's all about how you're expressing it, tbh. I agree with you. If you're excited by your interest in quantum physics and can talk in a way that it is understandable it's sexy as hell. If you talk above people it's a turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 11:23 PM
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I would say that probably depends on how intelligent the woman is and if his area of deep knowledge coincides with his.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 11:21 PM
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So what you're really saying is, "Women shouldn't have bodily autonomy because they should pay for their bad behavior." May I ask, are you against abortion in cases of rape and incest?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 11:17 PM
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When I was in my 20s and 40 year old men hit on me I'd think he was only interested in sex and not commitment and avoided him like the plague. Which is exactly what a lot TRP guys seem to want actually, so maybe I was on to something. Most of my girlfriends got married in their late twenties and early thirties--and some got married in their 40s. They all married guys I would consider high quality--good careers, kind, and good conversationalists. ... sometimes when I come to this site I seriously…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 11:13 PM
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Guys who are funny get extra sexiness points. I'm not saying I'd find a guy who was blubbery and funny sexy. But a guy who was a little fat and funny ... as long as he was confident, yeah, that would totally work, much better than a confident fitness geek who wasn't funny. I speak from experience. And Aziz Ansari is hot.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 11:02 PM
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"Bullshit. " Facts aren't on your side son: http://psychcentral.com/news/2009/11/11/men-more-likely-to-abandon-partner-during-illness/9479.html "Women initiate most divorces. If a husband gets laid off, that off results in divorce." No, a woman is more likely to initiate a divorce if husband is laid off (although, those stats aren't broken down into reasons for layoff--general downsizing, or was he showing up at work drunk.) "more likely" does not mean that she will. Also, fun fact, if a guy get…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 04:19 PM
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Statistically, men are more likely to leave wives during their darkest hour than the reverse. http://psychcentral.com/news/2009/11/11/men-more-likely-to-abandon-partner-during-illness/9479.html You really don't know that anyone will stick by you. But I think there are character traits you'll see in the dating / vetting process that will give you a good idea of how your spouse will react. Also, never underestimate the push of family. A family that expects their children to be good people will not…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 04:11 PM
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Most people don't know what bodily autonomy is. "Bodily autonomy means a person has control over who or what uses their body, for what, and for how long. Its why you can't be forced to donate blood, tissue, or organs. Even if you are dead. Even if you'd save or improve 20 lives."
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 02:15 AM
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Red Pill Man is right. You'd have to not try to not improve. I hear guys say, "I'm just ugly." I knew a guy who had one of his ears melted off, and severe burns on his face, and was bald because of the same fire. (Got a prosthetic for the ear--but the face burns weren't going to be hidden.) He was also only 5' 7". He worked out, but wasn't ripped. Normal job, not rich or poor. But he was funny as hell. He had girlfriends, and eventually got married. I don't like some of TRP who say women shouldn…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 02:08 AM
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Yes, actually, even in the U.S. there is care for such people. My biological father is a forever alone--because he is an asshole who didn't care for his children and split when I was young. He is now in a nursing home in another state and will be provided for by Medicaid/Medicare. Before the nursing home he was in Section 8 housing and was able to live on Social Security. It's not a grand lifestyle, but he isn't eating cat food either and has pretty girls to wait on him and change his diapers.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/11/15 01:57 AM
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But you're here ... discussing women, ergo you do "give a fuck."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/15 10:18 PM
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But the 1950s was especially prosperous (supporting the OPs hypothesis.) I don't think men or women want to get married today because they are financially unstable (and the ones that do are less likely to start raising children.)
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/15 02:05 PM
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I've had men complain to me about women asking them out.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 09:19 PM
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My girlfriends who were really attractive actually had a hard time finding nice guys. Nice guys were intimidated by them and the guys who were overconfident swooped in. A lot of them were crazy and mean and didn't see my girlfriends as people with interests but as trophies. One of my most beautiful friends didn't get married until her late 30s and I really think this is why. ETA: Actually, my 3 most beautiful friends didn't get married until later. No they weren't "riding a cock carousel," nor d…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 09:14 PM
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Xenmas, listen to Red Pill Husband. He and I are probably on opposite sides of the fence a lot of the time, but I agree with him on this. You do lie. Sometimes you pretend to be a "dating expert," other times you're an anxious kid who stays in his house all day. One persona or the other isn't honest. Red Pill Husband is offering to be a mentor. Take him up on the offer. You need it.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 09:08 PM
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I think class is a huge issue in the U.K. from people I know who've lived there. It would be interesting to see how white non-U.K. nationals do as a group. I know several men who aren't Brits who say they get a "pass" from certain class prejudices because they're French/American/Canadian. ETA: I wonder if kids of other races get a similar pass over there? Hey, you're not white--but at least you're not from Cardiff or Cornwall or of (gasp!) peasant ancestry.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 08:36 PM
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You pull a quote, and cite a particular paper, that's something I can look at. You just showed me a list of papers and say, "There's too many," and I'm going to say, it's BS and he's just trying to pull wool over my eyes because he knows I have a job and kids and I can't read all of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 05:32 PM
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Which paper?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 10:06 PM
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Some women love to feel that they're popular and the centre of attention, that's why they'll get off with the football player, who due to the ridiculous culture in the States is the most popular person in school, even though he's likely to be an idiot. If they're both in school you shouldn't be using the term "women", you're talking girls. Girls are immature. So are boys.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 09:52 PM
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What I mean here is that, the promiscuous woman has more of a habit for always looking for something better, an inability to feel completely satisfied with her current man. A lot of men are like this too. The ones I know tend to be gorgeous. (But I know gorgeous members of both genders who are monogamous, or serial monogamists.)
/r/PurplePillDebate29/10/15 09:51 PM
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https://manboobz.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/womentotallynotworking.jpg?w=604 https://manboobz.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/wm1.jpg?w=600&h=439 https://manboobz.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/wm2.jpg?w=600&h=341 https://manboobz.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/wm3.jpg?w=600&h=544 Those pictures are all probably photoshopped, amirite?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:40 AM
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The Rationale Male post isn't a scholarly article. It is opinions of some guy on the internet. Not a reliable source.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:31 AM
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Yes, I think in the rare cases of divorce pre-suffrage kids did go to the mom.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 11:26 AM
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I wouldn't deny a quote because it is from ROK, and I didn't. But I am concerned OP didn't really read the original source and just quoted an ROK quote instead of said source -- and by the time the ROK article was typed the source had already disappeared. Also, a book from "Listverse" is a credible source? The quote seems to come from as far back as 1997 ... so: 1) It is OLD data (if it is real) 2) We have no idea how long these marriages were tracked. I am annoyed with ROK because of stories of…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 01:40 AM
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I don't think it is a good deal for the women. I found this stat: "In fact, foreign women who marry American men are between three and six times more likely to be victims of domestic abuse than American women.44 A 2003 study reported that more than fifty percent of legal assistance providers handling cases of battered immigrant women involved women who had met their American husbands through IMB websites.45 The number of abused immigrant women is likely a gross underestimation because such women…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/15 12:30 AM
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What kind of "self-employed" people do you know? None of the ones I know "have plenty of time to homeschool." The ones that don't work full-time hire nannies to handle the education of the younger children.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 04:10 PM
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In a life of destitute poverty there would still be hope they could escape poverty. House slaves in the old south who were treated "like family" still ran away. Either 1) you don't want us to change your mind because you're just a troll or 2) you don't understand what slavery is.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 02:44 PM
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All the girls you know have one thing in common: you. My girlfriends wouldn't; it's all risk, no reward.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 01:15 PM
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Uh ... Because I have had the chance to sleep with men who were model good looking and didn't because it was "too fast", I didn't find them very interesting, and I figured that they were just using me for a one time thing (I was cute in my youth but not super hot, not someone a guy would keep as a status symbol.) Between STDs, the fact that the sex was likely to be unenjoyable, and the risk of unplanned pregnancy, why would I do that to myself?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 12:47 PM
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This isn't proof. This is an anecdotal. I can say I've seen the opposite, which is also an "anecdote," but it is just as valid. I suspect people who've swallowed TRP will believe your anecdote and not mine, because it reinforces their worldview.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/15 03:34 AM
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"the chances of banging a hot guy is something that most women will not pass on." Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 10:00 PM
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You wouldn't be able to tell if its really a woman on the intertubes. Personally, as a woman (believe me or not), I think the women who say this have never HAD an orgasm, maybe not with a partner, maybe not at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/15 09:57 PM
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The sarcasm is strong in you.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 02:04 PM
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I live in a "working affluent neighborhood." The neighbors buy nice things, but with cash and second hand if it is a car or other item that depreciates quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 02:03 PM
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I just posted above that my husband looks down on guys like this too! I think he is very career oriented and although he had lots of girlfriends when he was younger, he sees a state of perpetual bachelorhood as a distraction from his goals.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 02:00 PM
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I was talking to my husband last night, we're in our 40s, and he said some condescending aside about our neighbors who haven't married their live in girlfriends. He saw it as a failure on the guys part not to get married. I think that one thing about marriage, much as the TRP will say it is a trap for men, it is more difficult to extricate yourself from than simply living together.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/15 01:57 PM
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I agree that K-12 steers people away from blue collar workers; and I believe it is a shame. You can't send the mechanics overseas, and lots of guys like those jobs: playing with computers AND a wrench (mechanics), building houses, that sort of thing ... "Women with degrees don't like dating blue collar workers." I wonder if this is a family thing? When I was dating I was really just interested in finding a guy who was passionate about what he did and didn't whine. EDITED TO ADD: There are a lot …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 02:08 AM
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" But I do recognize that on this issue I'm an extreme outlier." I don't think so. I'm the same way.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/15 02:04 AM
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I don't think men don't need college as much as women do. For guys, there are physical jobs: high end mechanics, electrician, plumber, and various types of engineering that can earn from decent to awesome money. (I know guys who went into heating/air conditioning, and construction who pull 6-figures and really love what they do. They like machines, not being behind a desk, and owning their own businesses. The plumber makes good money--but he may be a bit more ambivalent wading through other peop…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 04:34 PM
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I am sorry for you; especially for the loss of your children. When you come from a toxic family, it is really hard to find healthy people and nurture healthy relationships. Honestly, I think NOT looking for love is a good idea for you right now. But ... I hope you might believe that there can be good women out there. If you don't, you'll never be able to be a good dad to your daughters.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/15 04:18 PM
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Every one should encourage their partner to be the best they can be (without nagging.) That should be a goal of wives and husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 03:20 PM
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Which part, her age? If so, here are my worries: I think 22 years old is very young to be married. Statistically, people who marry young are more likely to get divorced. The type of man who can support a family is more likely to be interested in an interesting woman who is smart and accomplished. At some point the kids will leave the house, you need something to do during that time. You also should be able to support your kids or yourself in the event you are widowed. I think early marriage prob…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 03:18 PM
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All but one of those stories happened when I was teenager to adult. "The feminist movement gives rape and sexual assault statistics that erase perpetration by women and glbtq and their victims. So believing that women are uniquely and more under threat from het men is an effect of feminist hate propaganda." How many perps are female? It looks to me that although we may not be "uniquely" under threat we are under more threat.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 03:14 PM
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"If there are no consequences for sleeping around, more women will do it. Period. Full stop." I think the consequences have dropped, but I think women aren't as interested. I think besides safety and pleasure issues, women emotionally aren't as interested in it. There are unicorns out there who really like casual sex--but if they're female and smart they could probably do it for a lot of money. Which I'm peeved at--because they aren't taxed on their $300/hour job and I get taxed on my considerab…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 02:51 PM
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I agree with you. I think emotionally the average woman just isn't as interested in hooking up. I had a talk with some girlfriends one time, we all really wanted to meet the girl who hooked up and live vicariously through her because it seemed exciting ... but not something we were really interested in. A lot of the girls I've met who hook up a lot have broke down and cried to me in the bathroom about their lives and not finding true love. I know there are women who enjoy casual sex ... I just h…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 02:46 PM
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I've never hooked up. Some of my female friends thought that was un-daring of me. I asked them point blank if they came. They said no. Didn't really need any other evidence. But, honestly, hottest guy on the world hitting on me ... if it was the first time we'd met I'd probably find a way to back away slowly and run to the door. I'm married now, but it back in the day when things moved to fast I'd turn off.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 02:43 PM
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No, it's not training. It's experience. Most women have a freaky story of being cornered by the pedophile in their own home, of being propositioned on the street and then shouted at for saying no and followed by the guy in the car, of having guys expose themselves to them, of being groped on the train, of being stalked by people they don't even know and couldn't possibly have "led on." That's actually accounts of things that have happened to me ... it's not a complete list. Throw in the things t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 02:39 PM
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Eh. Other advice columns ask women to assess their actions and motives. But instead of saying, "Lose weight!" they might say, "Why do you want a man who doesn't love you the way you are?" and "Get interests behind finding a man to make you happy." I actually think that although modern beauty standards are unattainable by most women, achieving health is important. Exercise, getting enough Vitamin D and not eating crap all the time can save you a lot of agony in the future--man or not. You can get…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/15 02:31 PM
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Follow up studies have shown that women who try to negotiate don't get the money--they're seen as pushy. HOWEVER when women say, that X person in the office (man or woman) deserves a raise, that a boss is as willing to give X person a raise. So the best thing for women to do in office situations might not be to ask directly for higher pay, it might be to work together to nominate each other for higher pay.
/r/RedPillWomen19/10/15 02:24 PM
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I think by setting up your post as "women can't empathize" it comes off hostile--hell, it made me hostile, and my husband says I'm as emotional as a snake. Having TPRs say I cannot "love" a man makes me want to self-combust. I don't love a man, I love three: my dad, my husband, my brother, and someday my son. But that's probably why women didn't respond. I would say, if you said, "No woman can understand what it means to be a man," I would agree. Just like no guy can really understand what it is…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 01:19 AM
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I think he has a point though. I remember seeing a documentary on high end call girls and the woman they interviewed said, "I used to like sex." But it became a job after a while and it became too much like work. RedManBearPig isn't saying he thinks its wrong in any moral way.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 01:08 AM
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I agree with you. It puts her in contact with bodily fluids that could carry STDs and other fun things that she can transmit to her guy. EDIT: Also, he might consider it cheating even if OP does not. His feelings matter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/15 01:03 AM
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"I'm actually extending women's lack of unconditional empathy while still viewing them respectfully as adults to male disposability as a whole, not just the SMP/RMP." If you believe we possess less capacity to empathize you are not being respectful or even logical. "The question was; are there any benefits to assuming this about women? Are there any downsides?" That women will pick up on your attitude and the ones who do care will want nothing to do with you. You will be left with the women who …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 09:53 PM
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I'm going to echo this. By statistics I should be drug addicted, divorced, and unemployed. I don't want to talk about the bad times, or bad things, or bad people I have to support. Even writing this post, dredges bad feelings. I want to keep moving forward in the areas of my life that I can control, the parts that make me happy. The bad things are always going to be there, "talking" won't make them go away. As much as you may want to offer to be someone's shoulder to cry on, they may not want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 01:51 PM
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But then the other answers to the survey that people in "traditional marriages" have more sex are also suspect. You'd have all the same problems with truthfulness and recall bias.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/15 02:36 AM
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You're wrong about 2 hours being "okay." It has been shown not to help. I agree some homework is good, and builds discipline, but it should be appropriate for grade level. 10 minutes per grade should be enough.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 04:18 PM
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I have a little boy. He loves to wrestle. I think it is healthy for him--and I also think it is very healthy for him to learn who and when to fight. It's also healthy for him, and little girls, to go outside and PLAY, for hours, anything they want. He's actually on the honor role, but it is hard. They give kids too much homework--we're talking 2 hours a night in 3RD GRADE which hasn't been proven to effect learning, but will effect grades. Good girl who does her homework gets the A. But has she …
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:46 PM
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You're right ... and the guys in the Dakotas in the fracking boom. Oh, and contractors near military installations. I've heard of truck drivers in Iraq living like rock stars when they got back. (Of course, they pay with danger -- but the ones I know seemed to feed on that sort of thing.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:37 PM
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But I'm not sure this says that women are less attracted to them. Even the authors say "suggest." Are men doing housework initiating sex as often and getting turned down more? OR are men doing housework initiating sex less often and consequently having it less? Are women in traditional relationships initiating sex more and having initiations reciprocated more? Are men in traditional relationships initiating sex more often? These questions aren't answered.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 03:31 PM
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Yes, it is something I find problematic about TRP. But I also find problems with feminists who declare, "It's all social conditioning." It's not.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 02:46 PM
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Source? EDIT: Not saying you're wrong, just curious. (The Ultrablue thing is actually nothing to do with RP or BP it's just easy to remember for personal reasons.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 02:44 PM
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And 74% of men. It is scary. I've read some obese men are actually fine if their fat % is counted, but obese women rarely have that excuse. HOWEVER, "overweight" women might be fine. I've known some women who are fitness orientated, not a lot of fat, but they are probably technically "overweight". The study I saw didn't account for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 02:31 PM
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They have less sex: http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2013/03/28/guys_who_do_housework_get_less_sex.html Not sure if women are less attracted to them or if they're less attractive to themselves; that isn't examined. (Also, lawn mowing, car repairing, and presumably snow shoveling and other heavy tasks are exempt. Jar opening too, maybe? Stupid jars.)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 02:19 PM
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The behavior I've seen in my neighborhood (income typically >$100k) is predicted by studies that show that highly educated, affluent people who marry late are less likely to get divorced even when it isn't all wine and roses (hence the personal note.) That's why I asked where he lived ... I'm curious if marital attitudes are bases on SES. I did look up the assertion that unemployment leads women to divorce husbands and found this tidbit: "In addition to upping the chances their wives would leave…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 02:02 PM
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A lot of manual labor jobs are still well paid if they are also highly skilled. Several of my male family members do high end carpentry, and another guy I know does heating/electrical repair and has his own business, yet another owns his own business and is a plumber. Some mechanics, if their machine knowledge is paired with computer skills also do very well. These are jobs that can't be exported, either.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 01:36 PM
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I've lived in two vastly different cultures. Also, I have a girl and a boy. Both experience lead me to believe not all gender differences are social constructs. Didn't give my little girl dolls for a while--she made little beds for her brother's toy boats and tucked them in. She is also much better at language; he's much better at math and building things. Besides hormonal differences and wiring differences in the brain, we also have physical realities: men are stronger, women get the task of in…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/15 02:17 AM
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"> For example: if it was his income and social/occupational status which "attracted" his wife, he must maintain that for the entire lifetime of the marriage. He must remain the same or be on an upward trajectory at all times in his career. If he loses his job, suffers a work reversal, earns less money requiring his wife to support the family, the marriage will be endangered. " Where do you live? I have two X chromosomes and live in an urban area that I would describe as "working affluent." Ever…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 10:02 PM
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Seconding the babies part. It gets to be really problematic with sleep schedules. Every other night there is a crisis and one or the other partner is sleepy. This is probably why marital satisfaction tends to go up as the kids get out of the house. But, conversely, people with 1-3 kids tend to be the happiest ... once those kids leave. Having close relationships with your children is very satisfying; it's more than love and people without kids can't understand it.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/10/15 09:22 PM
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