ake people. Wonder if thats rooted in her own insecurities, she knows that she's as fake It also makes her looks so much older. I mean I'm just a little bit younger than her(2 years to be exact) but I look like 10 years younger than her And I look my age.
Exactly, I was nice and all that and I was always last choice for women. Now I'm in my early 30's, I'm still nice to people, but on the other hand jaded and bitter toward relationships. Why, oh why should I pursue women if my libido is way lower than it used to be, I learned how to live alone, and they look awful, have children and expects me to be their wallet and treat me horrible becauce Chad will not commit. If some girl accepted me in early 20's I would be happily married(I think), but now …
I get out of the game like 7-8 years ago and nothing changed. What you say was probably true years ago, but now women's standards are insane. I'm 5'9 and considered manlet, I'm almost completely bald(and it doesn't suit my ugly face) so I'm worthless to women, yet 20-30 years ago I would be considered at least ok as all thing said I'm not that short, not that ugly(not deformed anyway) balding is not end of the world, and having nice career, skills, and intelligence is something that was acknowle…
Original thread is cancer inducing, top comments are about how guys in the back have the same cloths all the time and that's why they don't have girlfriend(just shower bro). Le reddit le humor made by numales.
I had absent father and extremely abusive, manipulative, complaining and nagging mother. She hit me once or twice, but I would prefer physical abuse to what she did to me. And now she's 'suprised' that I have no friends(she didn't let me out of home), and I'm mentally fucked. But there's always hope, there's nothing stronger that man who rebuild himself. I'm much stronger now, but still cautious towards women. I know that plenty of them are snakes in disguise, because my mother liked to be seen …
Maybe, but if so then he do it in cycles and not 365d/y. And like I said even he film shirtless scenes right after starting filming movie. And in scenes when you can see his whole arm he and staff of people train that part of his body. All of this is especially visible in abs. I've seen not so long ago some women laughing at Momoa pic where his abs weren't visible. Like holy fuck, why should he keep his abs visible all year long? Many actors are happy when they can live more normal, best example…
For fuck sake, do you even know anything about steroids? You don't have to look like monster, you can be relatively smol and still on gear. How? Well one thing is genetics, and without proper bone structure you can't be a monster, if your wrists and/or shoulders are thing then they will stay that way because steroids can't change your frame really. So how to spot guy on gear? Easy, if he is ripped, with bulging muscles and yet with low body fat it's very probable dude is on gear. It's doable to …
Well there's a difference, we manlets are just lazy fucks and don't work out hard enough at gym to get taller. She on the other hand can't do anything to lose her weight.
f it were true, women would be so much less frigid about sex in general, than men. Female orgasm is stronger, but it's also harder to archieve. I've seen some study that concluded that the dick size or technique of male is not as important as his attractivness for woman to archieve orgasm. So if you are Chad with no skill and average dick it's more probable that woman will orgasm that if you are ugly with big dick. Second important thing is that women judge ~80 of man below average in attractivn…
I remember watching Bird Box(genuinely one of the worst movies I've ever seen) and I knew from beginning who was an 'evil' person. It's easy peasy - white men bad, women and black men good. And of course black men are not only better, but they will not leave you as they are more loyal and kind, especially to older white women. We are reaching north korea propaganda levels.
I like Marvel movies, but Falcon as captain America is bullshit. Not to mention he is lamest character there, just a dude with WINGS for fuck's sake Tony Stark could at least built him a whole set. Bucky should be new Cap, he has history with Steve Rogers, and it would complete his story arc, first american soldier, then winter soldier and in the end new Captain America. Also black woman as Valkyria was a joke, I know it's based on comics, but holy fuck, Brienne from Game of Thrones is a tall bl…
because they are blue-pilled, don't have standards and are too nice to reject them and keep their dicks in their pants, hence the bad sex. It's actually because most men are not attractive to women. For most men it's either landwhale and/or ugly girl or nothing. And rejection? Today a 5/10 have to court and be a jester for a 2/10 landwhale just to have even chance to have sex. Partially it's because of men and their thirst, one of the posters in this thread said it well: that sex is not so good,…
I think the same. Male orgasm is also so short, and with condom on you feel almost nothing. Seriously jerking off feels better, and you can do it whenever you want, however long you want etc. Still it's just kinda okay. It feels like fulfilling your basic need, because you can feel this 'thirst' to ejaculate(less and less as you age), but you don't need to have sex to do it. Seriously I can recall ton of shit that made me 'mentally' orgasmic much more. I remember playing over 15 years ago first …
On other terms i would be working my ass off, because i actually like to work. I like my work too, but I work just to not fall into second tax bracket, because tax is then so high it's just pure thievery. I also want to retire early, when I was younger no woman ever wanted to do anything with me, and now fat single mothers are beginning to be interested in me. If they didn't gave me their best, why should I tolerate them in their worst? I stopped talking with people about it, because when think …
Well yeah but I imagine that to write this book, she had to study this topic a little while. Just because her book is lightweight doesn't mean she only interested in lightweight approach. The thing is, the easier to read and understand book is, the more probably it's gonna be succesful. People like Helen Smith are so rare, it's good that any women writes about men's perspective.
Although is also undeniable that they get a lot of money with this. Well sure, but I personally have nothing against it. If you create anything and people want to buy it - they should be able to do(unless it's something dangerous, etc). My blood boils when I think how government takes money from my taxes and gives it to single moms. That's even a reason why I decline opportunities to earn enough to get into second tax bracket in my country(it's fucking 32%! And just income tax!)
That's right, but just imagine world without Internet. I'm not from USA, but I imagine that with just mainstream meadia like TV and newspapers almost nobody would ever heard about her.
If it was written by a man it would be never published. I've seen some videos with Helen Smith, she is just old school scientist - don't care if results of study is offensive, truth is truth. Maybe in private life she is nagging and hypergamous like most other women, but when it comes to macro-scale she is not affraid to tell the truth. And that's good, because no one can use argument like 'who hurt you' or 'you are just an angry incel' towards her because she is a woman(and actually good lookin…
That's actually false. Those episodes where he is pain free it's 'honeymoon' period, he is just happy he is pain free. There are episodes where people who know him only after he get disabled ask people that knew him before if he was always like this - and yes, even before pain he was pretty much the same House. Maybe with better temper, but just as cynical and bitter.
If that was the case, you would see it really bad in the USSR where they wiped out a generation of young men. Well, it is bad in countries of the former USSR. Rampant alcoholism, drug abuse, short lifespan, abysmal fertility rates, skyrocket rate of hiv infection, high crime rates, corruption. One can only wonder, how much of it is because of loss of lives in war, and how much was because of overall destruction caused by war and of course communism.
Alpha - beta is false dichotomy. You can have some ripped soldier, who is commando or whatever, but fucked over(financially) by some smart banker who is 5'5 bald and fat. Are they both alpha? Or they both beta? What about guys who could be alpha, but just don't care? There are alpha qualities and beta qualities, but almost ALL males are both alpha and beta in certain situations. It can also be confusing, because alpha means someone with leadership qualities, not necessary strength. Even in wolve…
I doubt she is that good looking. She looks good on that main photo, but that's because of filters/lighting etc. She looks much worse on every other photo, and I doubt there's even one photo without any 'upgrade'. But ten years ago, sure she probably was a Stacy
If thinking like this help them sleep better in the night, I don't have anything against it. I might be 'too broken to deserve her', whatevs. In the end - I'm very happy when I'm alone. Are they?
"But what about your past? You've slept with a ton of girls. It's not fair. " Well, it's because it doesn't work like that. If gender were reversed in op post, and girlfriend of a guy would discover he was virgin, she would be disgusted and break off with him immediatelly
I agree with you 100%, I live in country where prostitution is kinda grey area, the only thing forbidden by law is pimping(and it's grey area, because prostitute earn money but can't pay taxes because then government itself would be pimp). Anyway, I would say that less than 2% of men ever go to prostitute. Reasons are multiple, fear of STDs, but mostly because of moral and societal repercusion(if anybody know you went to prostitute you will be almost on pedophile-tier of 'creepiness').
When I was in 20's I studied and work hard, to archieve status, money and success. Women never even looked in my direction. Now when I'm in my 30's I want my life to be fun, I'm not looking for old-washup women but fun bubbly girls. Oh I don't use word 'deserve'. Nobody deserve anything just because they exists.
I had dates like that in my early 20's, girls were saying that there's 'no spark', and I was surprised because how can you tell that after just one date?(obviously if there's no chemistry at ALL I could understand it, but not when everything seems to be fine). It turns out it was my looks, and not 'personality'. Anyway I'm 30 now, and some women wants me to make a first step but they single moms and/or landwhales so thank you very much but NO
Yeah, one thing I've noticed is that TV dads are always presented as bumbling idiots, unless they agree to play the role of captain save-a-ho to some single mom. Then -- and only then -- they are portrayed sympathetically. I think it was a little bit better in 80's and 90's. Al Bundy is my personal hero, how he was able to survive living with his vapid shallow wife and irritating kids. Really inspiring.
What if they build cyborgs in the future. Their 2d waifus suddenly get too real Well, they gonna buid them in really near future, like in 5-10 years really. Simple at first, but then more and more complex. On one hand it's gonna be more real, but still they gonna operate on ifs and loops.
virtual girls (fucked up r?) I quess they just don't give a fuck. Their choices is really no girl or virtual girl. No to mention you can just leave virtual girl and she will not destroy your life. Although it's still kinda fuck up from our western point of view... I mean do they delude themselves thinking their virtual girl is at least a little bit real?
Because those countries were poor(they still kinda are, but not to the level they were). There was literally nothing else to do, so that's why fertility high was so high. One of the best years of fertility in Poland was during martial law in the 80's. Nothing to do, nowhere to go... And now westernized eastern europe is region with lowest fertility rates in the world(exluding few countries like South Korea)
I mean HELLO it's XXI century, we know that females and males are equal. She maybe seen some males starting family at 40, but not one of her females did this so she wants to show females can do everything males can do! Biology? What is that?
Marie Skłodowska-Curie was a good scientist, but there are few other polish women worth of mention https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilia_Plater - kinda like polish Joan D'Arc just on much smaller scale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jadwiga_of_Poland#Legacy - king of Poland(yes, king), then queen -> she didn't married someone she loves, because politically marriage with some other good would be better for Poland All the girls and women that took part in Warsaw Uprising, many of them just a teenage…
I do medicate and it's really helpful for my chronic pain, but women usually say they 'meditate' for attention. It's not like I'm some meditate guru but they completely confuses what meditation is. I think they don't care, for them it's just a way to be hip and cool and 'not like the other girls' which for me is really funny as in the end one of the meditation goals can be understanding that we are all the same(we struggle, we suffer etc but have ability to overcome it)
What if I want fun too? I've never had it when I was young because I studied and work, so at least now having skills, money etc I don't want anything 'mature'. I want to enjoy things.
I had to do a double take because I read her age as "30" at first. Now it makes sense why she has a senior citizen looking neck. Wowza, I would say she looks more like 49. There is possibility that she lies about her age. But that's not even the worst part, looking at her my brain screams just one word "CRAZY". I mean holy fuck, she looks like from some slasher movie "You are all mine my darling.... - pulls out bigass knife - AND WILL BE MINE FOREVER"
Sure, but we all know that accounts for less than 10% of women. Most are getting less desirable with age. And it's not even about looks! It's more about attitude. In my teens girls were somewhat fun to be around, but with age they turn into nagging and complaining and demanding machines of pure misery.
I've never understood why most girls/women have higher and higher expectation with their age. They value is dropping, yet they expect more and more. It's like charging more for half rotten fruits. ??? I was able to date in my late teens and early 20's but since middle 20's they expect me to be some sort of supremebetabuxxer and A REAL MAN. To be honest maybe it's because while I'm 30 I still feel like a 20 years old. I work more than I need but less that guys with family, I like just to chill ou…
There are lots of bad profiles showned on this subreddit but come on, this one has to be a parody. Athletic body type, yet she is fat. Kid with Tyrone also saying how man's success is what defines him, yet he cannot discipline her daughter in any way. So he has to be very agressive in his career yet to be a total weak beta as fuck in home.
I don't know how it's in Russia, but in Poland when I looked for women my age(~30) half of them were single mothers. I was shocked because I abandoned online dating like 7 years ago and was interested what changed. So central Europe became like west in that regard VERY FUCKING FAST. So only women that matched with me were single mothers and landwhales, and I wouldn't date any of them. When I've tried to message ugly but normal body size women I usually was ignored or after a while they stopped s…
The only things I really care about are my painted miniatures, as I spent much time painting them. But everything else? I have old, reliable car, pc, laptop other electronic stuff, games, and few pieces of furniture. I could abandon that in a hearbeat. That feeling of freedom is really liberating.
Yeah, but you know how women are. The thought of being with a 70 year old man is horrifying for them (unless he's super rich, then it's game on!). Yep, exactly. They can't(or don't want to?) estimate how much they are worth on relationship market. Even if they are worthless they usually only have list of demands, rarely saying what they will give you, only what they want. Actually this one is not even that bad, so many now just list "you have to be 6 feet tall, earning 6 figures etc etc etc) and…
Sapiosexual xD Is this a joke or some twisted thinking like this -> I like smart guys because smart guys have money and I LOVE MONEY. Besides how man can be attracted to her? Her last remains of youth abandoned her 10 years ago. Sure, if you marry woman like that in her early 20's you can be attracted to her, when she is 50 because you remember how she looked like, and you spend most of your life with you. But starting relationship with woman that is 49? Being alone is better, unless you are lik…
Exactly. If you didn't gave me your best years, I'm not gonna take care of you in your worst years. And for woman everything beyond 30 is 'worst years'.
A lot of older homes in the south are basically an open square on the inside with water sewer only on one side closest to the septic line. People would frame in walls as they saw fit or just leave it open like a studio apt. Pretty common in the 30 and early 40s I'm not from the USA so it's completely strange to me, but couldn't she cover it somehow? I mean in prisons in my country shitter from what I know don't have a door too in cell but at least some curtain/drapery or something. For fuck sake…
Even if it's too late for some things, then every passing moment makes it more and more "too late". Try some mindfullness meditation. 10 minutes a day for starters. It will make your thoughts much more stable through the day. And then you can try to archieve your goals, or enjoy yourself. I trully believe that are two "right" choices we can make. Regretting and procrastination are the wrong choices, unless you really enjoy it.
Yes, but it's attention from old or old looking women. I'm 30 and never had true teen/early 20's love and I don't feel attracted to late 20's or older women(best are early to mid 20's). Not to mention I lost most of my hair but with that exception I look almost the same as 10 years ago, in some regards even better. Women in my country looks fenomenal in late teens/early 20's but when they hit 27-28 they age horribly, truly horribly. Some of it is genes, but how they are living are also taking a …
It's all true. But you have 2 choices: Do what you are doing, and then in 10 years have even more regrets Realizing what you want and start going in that way. If some things are not possible then find new goals. I don't believe you can't find any goals you can work to. But even so, then instead of thinking too much and wallowing in the past try to make your life as good as you can.
I was like that at 22, every girl saying how I would be a wonderful husband, but they never considered me THEN. Now I'm 30 and only single moms interested in me, or really really fat women. I mean I'm 30 and I'm almost bald sure, but with that exeption I look almost exactly the same like 10 years ago. Meanwhile half of the women near my age looks more like my mom rather than someone I would date. I already accepted I'm gonna be alone for rest of my life(alone doesn't mean lonely though), and eve…
Nothing gets me hotter than a partner who offers to clean out my gutters, cook me dinner or watch my dog while I’m out of town. It's possible that she WANTS to be attracted to men like that, and in reality she would really really want to have man like that nearby. He would do all this and in response she would say thank you to him or even kiss him in the cheek. But what makes her hot for sex is still tall square-jawed muscled hunk. It's just that with age society(although even that is changing) …
She is 5'2 and want AT LEAST 5'10. I'm almost 5'10 and I wouldn't feel comfortable with 5'2 girlfriend, yet as 5'9.5 I wouldn't even qualify as minimum in her eyes xD And that's not average body type, but I'm from europe so maybe I'm wrong.
As an incel I don't think world owes me anything, it's just that I don't think I owe my money to single moms and thots but government nonetheless transfer my hard earned money to them.
Oh yeah that's why I used quotation mark. I was boring in their eyes, meanwhile I consider myself very not boring, just in different way than thugs. I love reading, driving hundrends of kilometers(or thousands) to see my favourite band, I was always interested in computers and technology and that's why I don't have problems with money nowadays(but even when I was a teen I knew there's money in that). So beta right? I quess girls thinks so, plus I have weak bone structure and have some health iss…
I wasn't too poor, I was too 'boring' and notexciting for girls to want to have relationship with me. Like many others I wondered why they never considered me a relationship material yet they often complained that their boyfriends hit them or didn't want to commit, or etc etc.
If I shaved my face she would look more manly than me, and I don't look feminine at all. "Working for this" means I would get a "prize" not only nobody wants but actively avoid so yeah. Grande delusions
Yeah I wanted to get married and have kids in my 20's but I was unattractive, shy dude. Now I'm 30 I established my career, I'm still unattractive but not shy anymore and after all I saw I don't know if I ever gonna get marry and have kids. Laws in my country are better, but still - I see married men and they pretty much have no life, they are just a workhorses. If some smart girl would snatch me when I was young and bluepilled I would be a loyal workhorse too, but that ship sailed long ago.
The difference is that women have much shorter window of fertility. After 35 if they want to have first child, it's not only unlikely but child have big chances of having some sort of disease. Meanwhile dude can be father even in his 50's or later(although quality of sperm is lowering with age too - but it's nothing dramatic like in case of women). Not to mention that men are happy arraging spreadsheets, making PowerPoints, archieving career success and not having kids. Majority of women though …
Biology is extremely hard to conquer, but in proper environment and some luck it's possible to harness biology for doing something good. Problem is that environment is extremely toxic now. You obviously still can have impact on your kid, but Internet, TV, etc have bigger impact on youngs kids now than their parents. I quess you can improve your chances to raise a good person by talking to your kid and explaining some stuff about the world. But if you live in the west then it's gonna be an uphill…
They are alfa widows. Not to mention they sometimes get a little bit more educated and wealthier with time, progressing in their careers and thinks that men value that. It's pure projection but they are so unaware that most guys don't care at all about that.
And people will blame that bad reviews are because of sexism or shit like that. But look on most popular cinematic Marvel characters(or one of the most popular) - Iron Man, Thor, Captain America, Bucky. I will focus on Thor -> in first movie he is a dufus, but through learning humility and some other lessons he is worthy again for his hammer, and archieve victory. I forget second movie, it was pretty blank anyways but Thor Ragnarok was a masterpiece. I mean mostly because of 80's style, music, a…
" So do what makes you happy but get your T checked and fuck the acne drugs they give you! Go and get some sun or go to the tanner. " Lol, one of the worst things you can do for acne. It will help TEMPORALY but in the end it will damage your skin + your acne will be worse. Too much of sun exposition(not to mention tanning!) makes your skin dry, which results in more active oil glands over time, which makes your acne worse. It's like old school of acne treatment "make your pimples as dry as you c…
Lol, I've stopped trying 7 years ago, and when I tried I at least had dates or something, and in last 7 years NOTHING. And being attractive have almost nothing with choice. I go to a gym, but I'm discouraged because I worked out in the past 3-4 years, 3x a week, 1.5 hours every time and my gains were minimal. I have quite severe acne and I go to derms last 15 years. Only thing they managed to do was damaged my stomach and intestines with heavy medicines that did nothing to my acne. I'm balding a…
Of course there's nothing wrong with it. I'm bad looking, and it's not my fault. I actually invest much more into my health and looks than average person, but genes are genes(+shit that happened in life). I CAN'T control it. If my problem was for example fatness then it's rather easy to become skinny. But some thing you just can't fix, or fixing them would take so much resources, time and health that it's simply not worth it. And to be honest after 30 years without sex, I don't care about it any…
Yeah, good thing I learned that in my mid 20's. Why put lof of work and resources if it's not gonna do anything? Although when I said no female is interested in me now it wasn't 100%, there were hints of interest from landwhales(and I mean USA type of landwhale, while I live in country with much skinner people) and of course single moms. But even in my most bluepilled years I would never ever wanted to have anything with single moms
Nah, you have to be attractive for that to work. Tbh if you are attractive, everything works. I'm not attractive and I've tried years to get a gf and I always failed(I thought I said something wrong, or did something wrong), but for the last 7 years I don't care(yet I work in field dominated by women) and no female was ever interested in me. I just don't care, especially because I lost most of my sex drive anyway. I now prefer to be alone heh. What's kinda weird that I feel less LONELY when I'm …
I don't even understand what "who hurt you" should archieve? I mean it was like me saying "I'm not touching hot stoves", and people saying "oh, what hurt you?". Are you friggin stupid, hot stoves are dangerous, and every adult should know it. Either by touching it as a kid, or(preferable one) by logic, deduction, and hearing stories of other people that touched stoves.
They usually get fat after neutering. but they still remain deadly. Even fat(reasonably fat) cat is very agile and fast(for a short moment). While dogs after getting fat are pretty much like humans on wheelchairs, cats are not so disabled by fat. One time I've seen old lady with cat on a leash, and cat was the fattest tube of fat you can imagine. He was casually strolling, but when old lady realeased him, he just casually climbed into a tree(it was a small tree, but still) and came back down aft…
Oh my god I didn't see her age in the beginning and I just thought she is mid to late 30's. Either she lies about her age(although I doubt it, because one of her kids is young, and another in the way) or she aged really bad. In her late 30 she will look like grandma O_O
I'm 30 and I wonder what she thinks her smv is? I mean not only she has five, FIVE(AND THE NEXT ONE ON THE WAY) kids, she looks more like 40. My mom is over 50 and looks younger than her tbh. Of course this woman would still thinks she is doing a favor dating me, but I would never even consider it. I mean what's the point? She has whole army of kids and looks older than my parents. Great. Even older dudes, over 50 would be not interested in her, because they don't want to deal with small kids. S…
One of the reasons why I abandoned online dating was that every female expect you gonna be some circuis animal and entertain her, right on the start. Listen, I don't know you so 'hey' is good enough starter, what do you expect me to start with? A friggin poem about your beuty? Not to mention THEY will never start conversation. I'm not good looking but I feel fine alone, so I'm not desperate, but I know there are tons of desperate guys that will fight for attention of chick they don't know at all…
To be honest I like being alone, and I never feel lonely. I actually feel more lonely around most people, as I have to play a role, fit into some role. I really prefer being alone even longterm than with someone that I would have no connection. But I do like animals, I feel I have better connection with them than with many humans. If you are not handsome you either have to pay for female companionship with money or you have to be a monkey and entertain her all the time. I'm ugly, and both those …
I quess being incel is not the worse scenario. I came back from my work(I work quite a long hours but I just want to save enough to not worry about money), open a beer and play some vidya games. After that I'm gonna put old X-Files episodes on screen while meanwhile painting some Warhammer minis and go to sleep whenever I go, knowing that my bank account is growing
She is 30 and her bio reads like a low IQ 16 would write it. Either she is very dumb or thinks she is still 16(so basically yes, she is dumb). It would be fine(plenty dumb people all around) if not for those 2 boys that have to live with her
Even if so, those are exceptions to the rule. Not to mention that if she is 42 and SINGLE it's simply too late. If she was married for 20 years, had already 2 kids and wanted third one - then she would had some chances. But in a way you are describing her(shallow thins like height are still so important for her) I think she is simply delusional. After so many years even if she found some average guy interested in her, she would get bored because she is waiting for prince in shining armour.
It should be worthless to them, for men it was early test for paternity. If both parents have blue eyes, kid should have them too, but of course it's not a rule. But you have to start somewhere... and then we have XXI century and some countries banning progress like in France where it's illegal to test if 'your' children are REALLY your children...
I'm not affraid of dying alone, to be honest I quess dying not alone would be awkard, like taking a dump with your family. It's way too personal. But okay, let's say that dying alone is really, really bad thing, okay. But how long does human die? A day, maybe a week? Sometimes it's in split second, some drunken driver hitting you when you passing the street. Now, what's the conclusion? It is really smart move to making your whole life miserable just so your last day/week is not so miserable as i…
I don't like dogs, I was always a cat person. Family called me cat whisperer as cats were always drawn to me, and just liked me. I live right now with my parents(to save some money) but I plan to rent some place so I can get a cat from a shelter. I know that this will somewhat help me.
You are talking about prostitutes and I'm not interested in that. Besides more than a sex I crave companionship and in my younger years I thought girlfriend can help me in that. I know, crazy :]
More and more guys are aware of that. I'm an incel with nice job(almost 30 years old) and I would never date woman who had past like that. I quess technically I'm a volcel because I had single moms and landwhales interested in me, but I don't have kids and I exercise + go to gym so why should I lower my standards? If life taught me something, it's that refusing a deal is better than take a bad deal from pure desperation
That's why I always laugh when people are terrified of 1984 and say how Orwell knew what's gonna happen. No, you can't control people with fear and brutality. In the end they will rebel, or system will collapse. With pleasure on the other hand you can not only control people, but people will be ON YOUR SIDE. They will fear that will collapse of system they will lose their pleasures, and they gonna fight tooth and nail to mantain the system. Huxley was a true visionary, but I quess that's why he …
I agree with my whole heart, but sadly there are just too many of those blue pilled cucks and simps. Even if redpill is introduced to them, most of them don't want to get smarter. Only experience that come with age something change that, but you know how it is... every minute there's a sucker(blue pilled simp) born
As an incel I disagree. I wouldn't pay one cent for porn. I think that incels are way way too aware of that too pay anything, it's more like blue-pilled cucks that thinks paying money will get them a little bit closer to a girl. Incels lost all hope, so why wasting your money on top of it.
They mature faster, because they are never fully grown. Man learns things like honour, loyalty, responsibility in his 20's and 30's. Women never learn this. It's like saying that janitors learns faster than doctors because doctors stay in school much longer(nothing against janitors, but they are not smarter in doctors just because they can finish their education in high school or even before that)
That argument is really, really stupid. I doubt most users spents too much time here, or on mgtows forums. I don't know, like maybe 15 minutes daily? Is that much? If I read and write on fishing forum 15 minutes per day would people assume I'm addicted to fishing, and I talk only about fishes even if in my 'normal life'(ie: not on fishing forum) I never talk about it? I visit both mgtows and incels communities and I spend like 15 minutes daily, and I read and write about women there usually. But…
It was much worse in my late teens to mid 20's. Now I just accepted that I lost genetic lottery, and that's not really my fault. Now I don't really give a fuck what other people thinks about me, I'm better and better dealing with "what if" and "coulda, shoulda, woulda" thoughts, and happier than ever.
As an old incel I agree. I'm something between incel and mgtow I quess because I had single mothers and extreme landwhales interested in me, but I'm average looking guy(just balding), with nice job etc so why should I be interested in worst of the worst? Anyway, I agree that Incel community is just too depressing, while I strive for human contact and relationship(which is maybe something not meant for me), I have enough of depressive state most of incels are in, I like much more atmosphere of MG…
But wasn't Lyanna looked boyish when she was in Arya age? As far as I remember she was a late bloomer, and everybody was surprised she is so beutiful because she wasn't anything special when she was younger
Of course. In this regard the only difference is that they lose their mind when there is 'exotic'(and by that I mean dark) man nearby. Just look at how many women were infected with HIV by one dude: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Mol And he wasn't even good looking: https://img6.dmty.pl//uploads/201003/1269183604_by_Kamecha_600.jpg So if you are Bob the beta better live in smaller cities or pray that no black dude will move in into your neighbourhood.
They know how to hide their true character. At least with western women you know what you dealing with from the start. Sure, there are less fatties than in US, but more(or pretty much the same) as in western European countries: https://obesity.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=006032 I live in Poland, sure there are many pretty girls, but once they hit their mid 30's most of them looks like that: http://bi.gazeta.pl/im/7b/f5/12/z19879291K.jpg Since women are smarter than in western europe,…
I'm 30 soon too, and my mom is always "you'll change your mind, just watch", the only difference between us is that I actually live in Eastern Europe. Women here are worse than in west, so I dunno why going here would help anything lol
She looks discusting now, just think how she will look in 10 years. I would like more to burn out my eyes with fire than look at her naked body in 10 years. What's worse is that dude looks much better than me, if he lose few kilos he would be really good looking and yet the best he could do was a landwhale. Enjoy the decline I quess, as western civilization CAN'T survive if this is the norm.
My mom often asks me why I'm single and when I will marry and she will have grandchildren. Meanwhile 90% of time she is bitching about some really really small stuff to my dad, and my dad is just silently watching tv because he knows that if he say something he will be fucked for all day listening to screams... So yeah mom, I don't want to end like my dad :>
Few years of therapy, few therapists - they never helped me. Few months of meditation - boom, instant effect, change in thinking. And not even that, beneficial change in physical too. I felt clear
If you read polish/slavic mythology, half of monsters there are beutiful women who in reality are monsters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lady_Midday https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rusalka And few more. I quess it was all about warning young men to not be lured by physical beuty.
She probably thinks men care about looks as much as women do. But most men would be exstatic finding average looking woman who is sane, loyal and hard-working.
Well I'm a good, nice dude but if you didn't gave me your best years why should I give my best years to you? Those nice good dudes starts to like their solitude. After you hit 30, and girls were never interested in you, you starts really fast to lose interest in them.
" just be a decent human and life will work out for you " Then next post " sometimes things don’t work out " I know it's trolling, but be at least consitent.
" She also said that "women only going for the top 20% of males is internet propaganda" " WELL, let's be honest... She is right when speaking that! Nowadays even top 20% of males is not enough for average female, and it's more like top 10%. Let's not forget OKCupid data(ONLY 7% of GUYS ARE PERCEIVED AS MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN AVERAGE): https://2static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Okcupid+girls+standards+lightbrownbig22+high+4+me+big2lightbrown_9b9d53_5839488.jpg
And in country I'm from(Poland) government would kill for 1.7 birth rate. It's like 1.4 now, and new government(they rule since 2015) boast about how they fixed birth rate, because it was 1.2-1.3 some years before. They want people to think that it's some trend of birth rate going up, when in reality it's just a sort of fluke - we had for a while high birth rate in mid to late 80's so women born then have now their last chance to have kids. But at least it's gonna be slow and peaceful death of…
Well I live in northern part of it, but Poland is not that big country so climate is almost the same everywhere. Of course except most southern part, because there are mountains there. When I was living close to sea, there was almost no snow at all, it was weird traveling south and after 100-150 km seeing snow ^^ But that was over 5 years ago, nowadays even in December it's not snowing, and only months with snow are January and February. Also, seasons change so suddenly, summers are long, fall a…
With recent climate change it almost never get cold. Summer was really warm, and even in last week I usually walk on the streets just with my shirt. It's middle of an October, and sometimes it feels like summer.
I can't understand her husband(unless she is lying but why would she?). He doesn't have sex with his wife, because he works too much to provide to her and kid/kids. So they both lack sex, but it's her fault, because if she earned some money maybe husband wouldn't have to work so hard. Yet now, she will have sex with some strangers, which for me is completely fucked up. I'm from central europe, we are slowly turning into west but if woman announce on her online dating profile she is married and w…
Well, yes but with an exception with your mom. Of course it depends, but if I listened to my mom earlier I would be in much better position. Also, she tried to redpill me early, she was always talking how I'm to nice guy, and this is bad for two reasons 1) I will lose time and resources 2) Girls don't like nice guys anyway. I also think that yes, life is all about ourselves, but people you can trust are extremely important. Especially family, your parents, siblings etc. Maybe friends, but don't …
Thanks! I'm still hopeful a little bit about my country, because younger generation of men are I think much more redpilled! When I was chasing girls, my brother just doesn't care about them because he thinks women had no honour or rules. He often says that even street thugs have some street code, yet almost all women have no code of rules at all, and also that even those thugs often have interest in some things like cars or even politics, when on the other hand women are bland and uninteresting.…
It's central Europe. It's kinda weird, because we experiencing changes that happened in west from 60's to now in a express way. Promiscuity is rising up, marriage rates is falling down, divorces are going up and rate of single mothers is rising up. I mean 20 or even 15 years ago single mothers would be shamed. I think even 10 years ago they were shamed, and now it seems like ok thing. I mean, I almost don't know any single mothers, but that I quess because my social circle is small, and mostly s…
Well it's even worse for them over where I live. There is almost no Daddy State, as welfare is very low and you CAN'T live only using that source of income. Even if you are single mother with child, there is not that much you will receive. I think that's why they are more desperate, they receive almost no social benefits and they usually work in low wage job. They can't hire nanny, because it would cost like 75% of their wage. I quess either their family help them, or they put their children in …
Nah, PUA are try harders, Kirk was natural at it, and he was all into Pump & Dump. Mgtow doesn't have to be monk, P&D is 100% acceptable. Also no worry about child support, if she is from another planet(and probably different species so she can't have kids with you - winning!)
Last seasons of GoT are shit. Without influence of George Martin they fucking it up to epic proportions. In first seasons trip from one land to another takes few episodes now everyone is traveling through thousands of kilometers in few hours. Friggin Gentry dude from the south just straight up run hundreds of kilometers trough ice desert send a raven to Daenerys and she is in time to rescue our A-Team. Not to mention thousands of undeads can't kill our main actors because they are too important,…
Russia is weak and will not survive 2020's in state it currently is, and some people on Internet that knows nothing about this country thinks it can somehow(?) rival countries like China or USA. It's completely laughable for me. China treats Russia only like a fuel station while also colonizing russian lands near Amur river. Not to mention population of Russia is in decline but only Slavs, Muslim population is getting bigger. Russia has enourmous problems inside, like I said for example HIV(ok I…
Lol at saying Russia and China in one sentence. While China is new superpower, Russia is crumbling. Without natural resources they would be third world country with their alcohol epidemic, AIDS epidemic, drug abuse epidemic. What products Russia sells? Do you ever bought something 'made in Russia'? While Moscow and St Petersburg are very nice cities this is only fraction of what Russia really is. The only difference between Russia and third world country is that in Russia there is low fertility …
Women now can earn just as much as men, and usually men are the ones who is spending more energy on a date: trying to be funny, but also romantic but also interesting but also learn more about her etc. So women should pay men on a date for entertainment they provide. The hell with this shit I would rather donate money I would spend on date to animal shelter as at least it would make me feel better(+ I really like animals so it's win-win)
It's quite dumb as virgin can easily gain experience and slut can't unslut herself. Plus if they would be smart they could mold virgin dude into partner they want. But that's take effort. And who needs effort when there are million thirsty guys on tinder right?
hey'll get the money off me anyway, because the government takes it from me in taxes. Oh mang I hate that with passion too. That's why I always vote on political party that is against any welfare(although personally I think it's okay when person is very sick, disabled itp to give them government help but not for unemployed). Problem is people on average are pretty dumb AND lazy so instead on voting on party like that they voted for pro socialist government. And that new government started giving…
I'm sorry dude, but at least you learned your lesson I quess... there are poor bastards over there who even after divorce rape thinks that this one was just a bad woman, and there are still good women over there so they get divorce raped again and again... Don't forget this lesson or all this pain and suffering will be in vain
Sorry but I don't believe that. Commitment was important for women because they needed resources. Nowadays they get it from government and/or by working. They needed those resources for themselves AND their children but nowadays they don't want kids until early 30's and then maybe have one or two, and government will give them cash anyway. I would say that nowadays men control commitment... if woman is single mother. I'm ugly so I'm invisible for many women but I'm almost 30 and single mothers a…
I quess, it's just that I was curious. I was really desperate in my teens and early 20's and bluepilled as fuck. Now I'm laughting at all those girls that didn't want me then. I would be perfect boyfriend/husband(well almost perfect as I'm not handsome) always doing everything for her. Now I'm redpilled to the core and even if I ever gonna found any girl I'm not putting her onto pedestal. Me and my family comes first
Dating simply feels like another job that takes my money instead of gives it to me I like how you said that. I feel the same. It's a job but I'm paying. WTF? How's that beneficial for me?
I came back to 'dating scene' after 6-7 years. Then I was poor university student, not I'm still not rich but have nice job. I tried online dating although in my early 20's after many years of trying back then I remember I deleted my account after my friend conduct experiment: he made female account with typical bullshit as bio "if you can't stand me when I'm worst..." etc and got hundreds of messages while I almost never get response back from girls. Anyway I tried to date now women my age or a…
That's true but nowadays with feminism and abundant information(so you know what happening in the world) more and more men are waking up. Why should I work so hard for this 'carrot' if I know that some dude who have better skin hair and bones can get it for free. Not only that he gets fresh and juicy carrot while I will receive maybe half rotten vegetable? Fuck it. And as men don't need much(not, if they don't care about women) then they starts to working less and less. Nobody in mainstream will…
It's fun stuff like that makes me thinks that living here is not so bad. And if any radical feminist would make any fuss about simpler calculator presumable being for girl - nobody would take her seriously. People just generally don't care about stupid shit like that, manufacturer wanted to make simple calculator pink and more sofisticated black - it's his choice, that's all.
Well yes and no, it was a message to Russia sure, but also conventional attack on Japan would take so many resources: time, lives of men, money. So USA killed three birds with one stone: testing new weapon, warning to Russia and finishing II world war with a single(well double) blow.
Hah so true. Give me back action movies from the 80's with guys like Stallone or Arnie. Hell even female leads were muuch better then, I really like Ellen Ripley, she is badass but not 'because she is women' but because she survived tough shit in first movie, in second she is told her daughter is dead and she founds a girl for which she acts like a step mother. Knowing she can lose daughter AGAIN she stoods against great menace. Now that some character development.
Actually there were still many people fighting in Poland, hoping that soon there will be another war - western allies vs Soviet Union. Link if anybody is interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursed_soldiers It's an interesting little piece of history but I get why this war never happened. Everybody was exhausted after war, and after that everybody had nuclear weapon so it was too dangerous. One good thing after all this is that in central Europe modern propaganda have a tough time
Probably her last name in original is/was Jagoda which is polish for blueberry. In central europe girls are even worse than in western world, because they are smarter. They take everything it benefits them from feminism, but also claim they are traditional so they take everything from traditionalism that benefits them. If you ask them they will say they are not feminists, they don't like feminism etc.(but takes everything that feminism offers them) so they trap men. Sometimes I really pity weste…
I am from central/eastern europe and can confirm. I would say it's even worse, because women here are smarter. Western europe you know from the beginning they are shit, so you have to be dumb to marry them. Here they know how they catch you, and after that you are fucked. One redeming thing is that law is better in this regard and in smaller communities it's still possible to find good girl that will not leave you because she was raised like that. And she is affraid of community backlash. But bi…
Its much better the watch from a distance with binoculars But this is literally what Mad Max was doing in best Mad Max movie(Mad Max 2). In the end he was fighting for the village, but mostly because he had no other choice. But I love opening scenes and how Mad Max is watching from far away how situation is going and go scavenging after danger is no more. There is actual scene there where woman is killed or raped(I don't remember) and Max is just waiting out for bandits to drive away
Pretty much the same here, just I don't have dog. Oh, and I still watch movies. There are still so many of them from the 80's, 70's, 60's and 50's I didn't watch. And there are some that I watched already but I want to see them again.
EXACTLY. Women pick guys with strong jaw, tall etc but in grand scale of things those are worthless traits. Especially if we are talking about making humanity progress we need inteligent and kind people. 160 cm tall bald guy is not really worth less for humanity than 200 cm handsome dude. Hell, 160 cm bald guy will probably live longer, and in times of famine and lack of resources(those still can occur, even if it's hard to believe for people living in first world country) the short guy have big…
Don't forget that Britain with every year became less british. Massive influx of non-british(and what's even worse non-european) people means there will be less and less pubs, and those that survive will have less clients
It won't work because those 80% of men not gonna have any reasons to work hard. In some totalitarian state you can force them sure, but not in our current system. After a while you get people like me - I work much less than I could because I don't need much. Most men don't need much. Men work hard usually only to provide for their families as women and children need much more than men. In our economical system that means DISASTER because it needs to grow all the time(I mean this system will fail…
Well if you consider being a sniper and killing Germans to defend Motherland then yes they were normal back in the day! And after they get old they make delicious borsht for their grandchilds and beat the shit out of bullies. I really doubt that nowadays westernized eastern european women will ever be as half good as our beloved babushkas.
15 partners is HUGE number, I mean through last hundreds of years people usually had 1-3 partners through all oftheir lifetime. 15 in a lifetime is much too many.
Biology. Women want's the best men, and all of them can have it. One Chad can impregnate hundreds or thousands of women. That's why Chad 10/10 will fuck 5/10 if he is bored, because his strategy is to spreed his seed everywhere. For woman at the other hand having kid is a huge deal. She can have maybe dozen kids tops, she have to carry every one of them in their own body, also her risks are much bigger. If some tiger attacks village men and women can escape, but pregnant woman is easy target. An…
Advice from oldcel: don't be a betabuxx. It's okay to date when you are older, with girls same age but have respect for yourself. Like you said: now girls don't care about you, don't be captain save a hoe in your 30's. Have respect for yourself. Build your life. Maybe you will atract girl that is worth something, if not then it's okay. It's much better than be a betabuxx cuck. It wasn't that bad in the past, when men in relationship/marriage had some power and authority, now you are basically ha…
Sadly for some men(like me) it's not a way to live life. I tried, and living like you is not giving me satisfaction. I was feeling alone and sad. . . . . And why is that? Well because Total War Medieval 2 + Warhammer Mod is much much more fun for me.
I like my job, so I don't want to retire sooner than 50. But sometimes it gets stressful and I'm extremely happy I don't have to take any additional hours if I don't feel like it. Every married guy I know takes everything he can, and even after that have much less disposable cash that I. Deeper relationships are big mystery for me - it seems like men get almost nothing in return for his hard work, yet people are so defensive about it, and try to shame me + women talks all the time how men have s…
Well then, it's good I like metal. Bands I really like mostly sings about wars, battles, heroes, history events etc. I also like classical music that doesn't have any lyrics at all. Sure, pop music is mostly about relationships but pop music is shit. Especially now, because I kinda like pop music from the 80's.
Well then he is/was wrong, because it's the same in Europe. I don't know about other parts of the globe, but it seems like green is greener on the other side of the fence thinking
I like to lead in my job, but home is place where I want to relaxe and put my shield down. I think if I had to lead in both work AND home it would mean that balance would be off and both job and home would turn from enjoyable to hell.
I'll agree with you on all points except the first one. I don't see smaller population as beneficial. Sorry, maybe that's my broken english. I've never claimed smaller population is beneficial. I just said that in our case it's not gonna be SO BAD. Yes, it's gonna be a bad thing but with social cohesion intant it just will not be that bad, that's all. If there as a choice I would be happy if population of Poland would steadily grow because we have plenty of land. But when realistic choices are :…
Projections so far into future usually are wrong. I'm not to worried about our situation, having smaller population is ok - even older population is ok if technology will keep up. It's better to have smaller population but with similar values, than bigger population but with people all over the world with different values and outlook on life. I highly doubt in any baby boom although THERE IS interesting thing - German women don't want to have kids at all, while Polish women want kids, but they a…
I'm talking about official statistics. It's 30-33%(link if you polish, otherwise use google translate): r/http://www.rp.pl/Spoleczenstwo/302029849-Jak-czesto-rozwodza-sie-Polacy.html in cities it's 44%, so pretty much it's already the same as in western europe. And like in the western europe women much often instigate divorce - they filled 2/3 of all divorce cases. I think divorce rate gonna go up for a while(especially because people migrate from villages to cities), but then it gonna stabilize…
And it's over 30% in Poland. It's still low in comparison to western countries, because people are poorer(so some people don't want to stay with each other but NEED to), catholic church still have some influence + in smaller cities and especially in small villages divorced women are still shamed. I bet that in next ~10 years divorce rate gonna go up, to 40-50% like it is in western Europe.
To be honest we all die alone. Of course I know what people mean by dying alone and I don't know why that's a bad thing. I consider this an extremely private thing, I prefer to eat and shit alone, why should I want to die not alone? That would be really stressful for me, and I don't want my last emotion on this plane of existence to be stress lol.
Russia is partly asian mostly because of mentality and how society works. Mostly because of history - Mongols influenced them and Moscow won win Novogrod and other rus countries and created the worst version of Russia when it comes to freedom, and standard of life for average people albeit it was a good way to greate empire. Society in Russia is hive-like with propaganda and dissidents silenced. Government is still seen as one with godlike powers, hell in Russia some people pray to Putin. In thi…
Russia is maybe part of Europe because of geography, but it's much more an asian country and don't have that much in common with rest of the Europe. But there are still plenty of countries in Europe that hold on traditional european values, and I'm talking now mostly about central Europe: those countries. Seriously shit I read sometimes that happens in western Europe or USA it's like from some bad novel, I can't believe in half of it because how crazy it sounds. People fired from jobs because of…
This. Hawking is one of my idols, he get really screwed up by life but instead of wallowing in self-pity he was like "that's all you got?". He lived amazing life and gave humanity enormous gifts. I feel like life without people like him would be completely pointless, why live if there is no progress, if humanity doesn't know more and more about our humanity? At the same time he also enjoyed his life as best as he could. We as a humanity should have goal to get closer and closer to who Hawking wa…
Same for me, I just know what it is about me - I'm just ugly. But going MGTOW was a good decision at least I don't feel this state of despair and constant rejection. I concentrate on myself and I know I will be alone but that is okay because I'm okay with myself. Although I will not be 100% alone as I love pets.
Maybe, but that's why I don't know(and don't want to know!) personal opinions of actors/musicians I like. For example Robert De Niro is one of greteast actors ever - I think that nobody gonna doubt that(at least if you are not that person that like to have opposit opinion that most of people as a principle) but some of his opinions are dumb as hell. I'm living outside USA so I wasn't aware till not long ago. On the other hand maybe he is just getting old, his newer movies are shit too. But I don…
I hope not. I like Cate Blanchett, she was fun in Thor: Ragnarok, and she is a good actress. There are tons of very good or at least good actors, but there are like few good actresses. And she is one of them
I quess not many here are familiar with this, but it reminds me Shadowrun. Near-future where corporation are rulling the world and you can play as shadowrunner - people who operates in the shadows, and laugh at wageslaves that work to their grave(also there are magic and elves and shit but that's not important now). If I told anybody in the real world that life like that seems interesting they would laugh at me and call me childish, but actually living as MGTOW is kinda living like shadowrunner.…
