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Also, it's much stronger for women: The only significant sex differences among the victimization and bullying correlations were that in Study 1, the association between bullying and dating interests was stronger for girls (rs = .28) than for boys (rs = .03; z = 2.59, p < .05), and in Study 2, the association between bullying and number of dating partners was stronger for women (rs = .50) than for men (rs = .13; z = 1.69, p < .05).
/r/BlackPillScience16/08/26 10:34 PM
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We haven't yet done a land invasion of Iran, so I don't see your point
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/26 09:54 PM
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Source?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/26 09:52 PM
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The study does claim "Overall, 95.1% reported having recently used at least one of the strategies to get a woman to have sex who they knew did not want sex and had not consented". It's not "rape" and I'd argue it's not even coercive. But 95% is in there
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/26 09:41 PM
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If you're going to put numbers on this I need to see citations
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/26 09:38 PM
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If women are that much worse at combat would we even invade Iran at all?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/08/26 09:37 PM
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The "equity" response would be to give them work that has similar fatality rates. I don't know if that exists in sufficient volume
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/26 11:41 PM
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Can I use the same argument? "All cultures around the world didn't give women rights so..."
/r/EverydayMisandry15/08/26 11:30 PM
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British women got the right to vote in 1918
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/26 11:12 PM
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It seems very unlikely that most "biphobic users" on a mostly english discourse are from Africa or the caribbean. Unless you mean African or caribbean americans? in which case why are you assuming they aren't (professed) feminists?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/26 08:34 PM
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"can even recover" is doing a lot of work. That's only true if men impregnate multiple women, something society (and women) are opposed to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/08/26 08:24 PM
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We kind of do. "no gatekeeping" and "no misleading" are close
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/26 09:44 PM
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Obviously "equity" in conscription would mean exclusively conscripting women until the ratios are equal
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/26 09:38 PM
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I think it's similar to how trains are more popular if described as "traditional forms of transportation". Simply avoiding language with baggage avoids 80% of the issue. And if someone responds with "male loneliness/incel/school shooter" language, you have a bedrock to point them back to. "I said nothing about loneliness, my point was about social support systems", etc
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/26 09:33 PM
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Not that different than literal feminist leaders
/r/EverydayMisandry13/08/26 08:02 PM
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If that were true we wouldn’t need this research
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/26 07:58 PM
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Did you miss “even subconsciously”?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/26 06:45 PM
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If you knew (even subconsciously) you would be graded poorly wouldn’t you put less effort in?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/26 06:42 PM
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I never said anything about the actual numbers. Only that "that's impossible because most sex is between a man and a woman" is faulty reasoning. Note that this very strongly depends on what is being measured. "ever had sex", "in the last year", "how many partners", "average frequency". Your stubborn insistence on strawmanning me is strange
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/26 03:24 AM
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The original claim was about medians, not averages. So 3 women having sex once while 1 man has sex 3 times would naturally increase the women's median while decrease the men's
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 09:59 PM
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1 man may have sex with 3 women
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/26 09:08 PM
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Feminists often say straight women dislike bi men because they’re ‘tainted’ by men. Lesbian women dislike bi women because they’re ‘tainted’ by men with zero irony. Literally saying sex with men is seen as disgusting and yet they claim misandry doesn’t exist
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/26 05:09 PM
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marriage rates are at record lows and decreasing romantic relationships among Gen Z are at record lows
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/26 09:02 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People_v._Turner
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/26 08:43 PM
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Second paragraph “I’m neutral towards this preference”. Check your knee-jerk reactions next time
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/08/26 01:58 AM
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Classic Attribution Error
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/08/26 07:13 PM
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I don’t know of any studies on exactly this question But there is this. 40% of women have experienced “the ick” due to a man being “too feminine”. I imagine if he were bi that number would be larger
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/26 07:24 PM
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I don't see either quote in the linked article or its two studies
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/26 02:17 AM
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The men surveyed are not representative. They are "in the age range 18 to 34 years, and reported having had a sexual encounter with a woman in the past 2 years". And they completed a survey "described as exploring positive and negative interactions between men and women in sexual situations". That would naturally select for men with strong feelings. Physical force is not the only form of force. Women may use other strategies. Sexual assault as defined by your study is "a sexual act that someone …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/26 02:10 AM
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90% of 100 men leaves only 10 men, not 40 It wouldn't be 90% of women dying, it'd be 45% If they were mostly monogamous the population would have recovered more quickly with an equal amount of men and women
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/08/26 12:06 AM
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Your own source says 83.8% of perpetrators of making men penetrate were women. The estimated number of victims is at least 2x that of male victims of male "rapists" (as defined by the study). Please read more closely in the future ETA: to be more precise I did the math and found 64% of male victims of all conduct listed were victimized by women. (I excluded mixed perpetrators). Not 90% but still a majority. And this is notoriously difficult to study
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/08/26 11:57 PM
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This author is a "Consumer and Personal Finance Editor" for them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates05/08/26 02:55 AM
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Specifically The study was described as exploring positive and negative interactions between men and women in sexual situations. The consent form indicated that the survey was men’s opportunity “to provide their side of the story given that we have heard so much from women” about male–female sexual interactions, repeatedly assuring them of their guaranteed anonymity
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 04:29 AM
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This is the same man who directed Crimson Peak. If it’s virtue signaling I almost commend it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 04:02 AM
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Indeed: - "Told [him] whatever [he] wanted to hear": lying about bodycount - "Had a friend, partner, or group of friends help you get what you want": asking friends to friend him on social media to stalk him - "Told [him] you knew [he] wanted it": erection == "consent" - "Kept touching and kissing [him]": inducing erection to create "consent" - "Demanded [he] stop conning you (faking a lack of interest in sex)": erection again - "Questioned [his] sexuality": "are you gay?? A real man would want …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 03:33 AM
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She's the second academic cited What is striking about sexual aggression is that despite decades of research, public health initiatives, education, media attention, and policy focus, there has been no discernible decrease in rates since first assessed in the 1980s and 1990s (Johnson et al., 2015; Koss et al., 1987, 2022). And they explicitly designed the study based on her work We described the survey this way to avoid sensitizing language and in an effort to communicate receptivity to men’s rep…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 03:26 AM
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The eligibility states Only women you have recently met—no sex or dating history with them beforehand So no "separate dates". Your other points stand though
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/26 03:25 AM
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Ad hominem
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/26 01:59 AM
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You didn’t read the post, huh
/r/EverydayMisandry02/08/26 03:10 AM
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I recently saw a study on how male students are misogynistic... and the title contained an insult a father used, not a student https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/09540253.2025.2568404 the dad turns and says, ‘can you tell this fuckin’ b****
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/07/26 01:06 AM
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I suspect it was “inciting harassment of other users” via pointing users to another sub or users of that sub. Global mods take brigading pretty seriously and it can result in the inciting subreddit being banned. I do think that should be more explicit in the rules
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/26 11:43 PM
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I suppose women can’t be misogynistic now?
/r/EverydayMisandry28/07/26 08:19 PM
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"I have greater empathy" says supremacist
/r/EverydayMisandry28/07/26 02:25 AM
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The people in this post seem very aware of their prejudice
/r/EverydayMisandry27/07/26 11:54 PM
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Do you extend this logic to race? Using your own citation it shows white people commit the most violence. And it shows black people are the most common relative to their population size
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/26 03:17 AM
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I made no claim about your point. Pot, kettle
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/26 01:42 PM
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Surely women still care about accurate science to help solve their problems right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/26 01:18 PM
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I'd love to if you have a spare $35K
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/26 01:03 PM
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I already linked you several here https://np.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1tlqukr/comment/ozn2cwh
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/26 12:09 AM
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Thank you for the work
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 11:16 PM
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Here are some left-wing points I found in a quick search of the 5 most recent posts corporate co-optation workplace safety — I'd also argue gender equality is itself left-wing.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 11:14 PM
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Do you have sources for the hormone stuff?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 11:09 PM
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I was very specific: I'm asking for the language that describes how all participants were oriented to exactly what women they count and which ones they cannot That is not Participants were asked “In the past four years, how many times have you used any of the following strategies to get (or try to get) a woman to have some type of sex when she did not want to have sex or acted like she did not want to have sex? (Only women you have recently met—no sex or dating history with them beforehand).” Si…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 08:55 PM
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I have read both multiple times I don't know what you're referring to by "anecdotal statement" I haven't made a claim in this sub-thread
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 08:49 PM
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Please quote it then
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 08:38 PM
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So... exactly the same language u/Askefyr quoted...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 08:36 PM
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specific section in which all participants were oriented to exactly what women they count and which ones they cannot Where? Please quote it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 08:15 PM
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Are you seriously suggesting "isolating a woman" can not include "finding a quiet place"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 12:17 PM
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Apologies, I interpreted "ALL MEN" to mean all men surveyed. It's exactly this kind of ambiguity of language that leads to this thread
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 11:39 AM
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So to be clear, "asking repeatedly" is criminal if she says yes?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 11:37 AM
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Without the exact text how can you claim they would have reasonably known that?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 11:36 AM
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"If X is actually Y then it's different". Wow
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 11:18 AM
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Do you have the exact text the men surveyed were presented with?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 11:13 AM
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And yet here you claim all 95% are criminals
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 11:06 AM
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to disinterpret answers to ambiguous questions
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 10:58 AM
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It's listed in table 2. Though I think you're right, the authors consider all of it forceful. The sublist contains "Questioned her sexuality" and "Showed her that she was making you angry"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 10:56 AM
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"Items that comprise a forceful strategy subscale"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 10:45 AM
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Oh you mean like "Asked her repeatedly to have sex"?? That might mean over the course of weeks. Or "Had a female friend around to make the woman Feel safe and convince her"
/r/EverydayMisandry25/07/26 10:45 AM
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I don't understand what data you see in Table 1 that disagrees with their statement?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 10:42 AM
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Seeking consent requires that consent to be dubious
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 10:41 AM
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Some men may consider absence of explicit consent to be "she did not want to"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 10:38 AM
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potentially criminal behavior lol
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 10:36 AM
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If my personal opinion on this matter is irrelevant why is it freely available to the public? "this study is not stating 95% of men commit sexual assault". Thank you for confirming the misandrist misinterpreted the study. This was posted two months ago. Is it really so hard to imagine why a perfectly innocent person would be bothered by "all of your demographic are evil"???
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 10:26 AM
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Surely someone who works in this field would care about proper scientific communication and avoiding misinterpretation right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 10:20 AM
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Thank you for admitting you're acting irrationally
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 10:14 AM
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"it can be gray" "or acted like" If a man surveyed believes "yes means yes" he may have used some of these "strategies" in ways that are entirely above board and that would skew the survey results
/r/EverydayMisandry25/07/26 10:12 AM
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Do you not "read legal definitions"?? https://www.superlawyers.com/resources/sex-offenses/what-is-considered-a-sex-crime/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 09:59 AM
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If "yes means yes" that means all women "didn't want to" until she gives explicit consent "Used your money, age, status to convince her". This could just mean proving your appeal to her. Are all salesmen and marketing nonconsensual if they succeed?
/r/EverydayMisandry25/07/26 09:41 AM
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"non-consensual strategies" "Private sex is not rape" "could meet the legal definition of rape" "not being equated to rape"????????
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 09:31 AM
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So it's not "ambiguous wording" or "vague questions" anymore? It's "sexual predation" now? Strange
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 09:25 AM
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If "yes means yes" then all we know ALL people "do not want to" until they give active consent. 95.1% reported having recently used at least one of the strategies to FORCE a woman to have sex Majority of tactics used were non-forceful Don't be obtuse If anyone is lacking in critical thinking it is you
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 09:11 AM
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... have you read the rest of this thread?? Did you even read the comment I replied to? This is bordering on trolling
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 09:01 AM
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Nowhere did I deny the numbers from this study. Stop strawmanning. If "studying this topic is extremely difficult and getting accurate data is hard" surely we should be cross-validating by including small samples of women??
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 08:42 AM
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I never implied the "95%" stat is wrong. I never implied anything about any study. Men were eligible if they [...] reported having had a sexual encounter with a woman in the past 2 years My claim was "many people claim 95% of men willing to rape". If you had read the above excerpt from the study you would know that claim is not supported by the study. You would also know that most of the "strategies" could easily be benign. Any study which allows such ambiguity is hardly worth the paper it's pri…
/r/EverydayMisandry25/07/26 08:30 AM
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You must be new here If you’re curious start here https://np.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1lum0eb/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/07/26 07:18 AM
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Stop strawmanning. Also you never read the study either. Ask me how I know
/r/EverydayMisandry25/07/26 04:53 AM
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If men did not exist, society would create them. i.e. some new social strata would form to serve the same role men serve today. Perhaps based on skin color, perhaps athleticism, who knows.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/07/26 07:48 PM
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Does the 2024 NISVS have similar perpetrator gender data?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/26 08:34 AM
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This CDC study is from 2016. Is this talking point older?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/07/26 07:09 AM
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Did you miss the second part? If they’re in such high demand the supply must be low
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 06:59 PM
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Good catch. Perhaps he should read more of those “books with no pictures”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 09:43 AM
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He agrees with her. Idk what the point of his response was
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/07/26 08:02 AM
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If it’s important enough it’s fairly easy to find the post yourself. For the survival of the sub, it’s better to err on the side of caution
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/07/26 06:14 AM
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No, it means making men immortal until their wife dies. Like the Pharaoh and his wives
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/07/26 09:06 PM
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This link worked for me https://content.ebscohost.com/cds/retrieve?content=AQICAHj0k_4E0hTGH8RJwT4gCJyBsGNe_WN95AvKlDbXJGqwxwHpFWWctW64p5UPN5YA8VM9AAAA2zCB2AYJKoZIhvcNAQcGoIHKMIHHAgEAMIHBBgkqhkiG9w0BBwEwHgYJYIZIAWUDBAEuMBEEDOxe38hSoixHbUlLNgIBEICBk97u7yEMA2ymI8M4bGThyFwq7cbF0-jRKMWSdEoyBwI8fef83ARGuHl1D2RZfCQak_ifzTVt4o545Kx4VW-3ICA5BEqWk_axuhCHZO7LVDBU-diux_TRWQFiPb72kSV7RjtQ5VAc5vFVKQZBoapeFN3Q5u7SArCOZdl4HTVVkC7W-23P7rCsgbsTEI_ZqNt3NiQZcg==
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/26 10:25 PM
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Also called the “apex fallacy”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/07/26 12:08 AM
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Interesting framing. I’ll keep that in mind
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 10:03 PM
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It's extremely depressing that only 33% believe even as milquetoast a saying as "Men are treated worse than women by the law or society in some situations"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/07/26 04:38 AM
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Even worse: had a sexual encounter with a woman in the past 2 years
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/26 10:29 PM
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"I will not wait until marriage" "If you will not reciprocate I will not give" "If you want X I want Y" are all insisting
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/26 08:50 PM
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“Insisting” is not a “clear coercive act”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/26 08:10 PM
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Did you even read it? The 25% from that study is verbal coercion which includes “partner insisted” EDIT: in fact 1.7% that their partners threatened them into having oral or anal sex, and 1.8% that their partners threatened them to have vaginal sex
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/07/26 07:43 PM
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Yeah, just like the “62 million men” thing, the actual study matters much less than the headlines and tiktok captions
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/26 10:53 PM
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That seems reasonable but to the point of this post, it seems that sort of sexual violence isn’t severe enough to prevent women from enrolling
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/07/26 10:52 PM
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It’s self reinforcing
/r/EverydayMisandry03/07/26 01:52 AM
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You implied it is forgivable to campaign against men’s rights. Don’t be disingenuous
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 08:20 PM
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The right to not be raped
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 07:36 PM
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Some evidence would help
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 07:20 PM
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Idk why you think foster care is the only option Human rights don’t need to be popular to be correct
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 07:19 PM
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Are you seriously suggesting men should have fewer rights because women would have a greater burden of proof?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 07:15 PM
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I haven't seen evidence of feminists successfully campaigning to enact said laws. Only, as the above comment suggested, selectively changing laws to help women. I picked those countries because they were the first I found and demonstrate how widespread this is
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 06:54 AM
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While "enshrine laws" is strong language, many feminists do champion said laws: India, Israel, and Nepal
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/07/26 05:32 AM
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People need to be more aware of social media's propensity to witch hunt. Remember West Elm Caleb?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 09:33 PM
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The manosphere's effect is overblown in my opinion. The men they do trap may be harmed more than the average male feminist but it's like comparing sharks to mosquitos in deaths
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/06/26 09:31 PM
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At least they mention that women can't legally rape men in the UK. Also notable was Specifically, only-once female suspects were significantly more likely than only-once male suspects to offend against victims aged 1–5 (6.3% vs. 2.9%), 6–12 years (17.7% vs. 10.0%), and 13–15 years (20.7% vs. 15.9%), and female repeat suspects were significantly more likely than male repeat suspects to offend against victims aged 1–5 (8.8% vs. 2.6%) and 6–12 years (23.9% vs. 12.2%).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/26 03:29 AM
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And for the UK we’d have to include a “correctly charged” section (as the paper notes)
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/06/26 02:18 AM
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Height preferences are a common talking point in gender discussions. Knowing that they have not changed in two decades is useful
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/06/26 08:53 PM
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Skill issue
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/06/26 12:15 AM
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Thousands among 4.2 million followers. Doesn't seem significant She's bi, so she can't truly know how straight women feel
/r/EverydayMisandry24/06/26 12:19 AM
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Surely they’re aware the beauty industry dwarfs them both combined?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/06/26 07:16 AM
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Are you claiming to be user mixedsignals? If so, then you gave the last word. How does that in any way mean I “blocked to get the last word in”??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:22 PM
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I never blocked you
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:16 PM
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Read the rule again. I blocked once our conversation was over
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 11:00 PM
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Then you should ask a more precise question. That's entirely my point
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:34 PM
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Please reread the body of the post again "what women do you admire?"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:25 PM
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The word "famous" does not appear in the body
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:21 PM
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That's not the question. Please reread the post title
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:17 PM
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Admiring only a select few women for being lucky isn't exactly telling
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:13 PM
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Also, isn't it kinda feminist to admire most women?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:12 PM
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Don't you know what a hypothetical is???
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:12 PM
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Perhaps. My point is it's a roundabout way of getting whatever you really want to know
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:11 PM
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And who did they have kids with if they were so lonely??
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:10 PM
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I'm constantly downvoted for asking for evidence in this sub. Telling
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:03 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:01 PM
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No it doesn't
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 10:00 PM
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I didn't bring up gaming
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:56 PM
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It's not very close to what you were hoping to learn though right?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:53 PM
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It's not. I could say something as meaningless as "I admire any woman who demonstrates professionalism and integrity in her field"
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:49 PM
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I'd rather my date just be explicit about what they're looking for. Ask about my politics. Ask about my thoughts on gender. Don't hide it
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:46 PM
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Any hobby? Gaming is hugely social and there are televised events. Hiking is social and frequently involves parents or mentors. If you can't imagine how to engage conversation about hobbies perhaps you aren't ready to date
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:14 PM
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You ask followups about those. "How do you keep up with the hobby" "Are there famous figures in the hobby" etc
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:10 PM
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It's a bit like asking a man to play the "name 100 women" game
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:05 PM
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Yes it would be offputting. Simply asking "what are your hobbies/interests" or about friends & family will get you all this.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 09:03 PM
4

Obvious shit tests are generally unwise on first dates
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 08:58 PM
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Wow what a novel contribution. I really learned something from this comment. Thank you
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 08:57 PM
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these made me laugh so hard the first time I saw them
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 08:53 PM
18

lowkey an embarrassing headline for a "writer"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/06/26 08:49 PM
0

And yet they won the election so whatever they did worked
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 01:19 AM
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To repeat, "Seeing as they keep winning elections, it seems like it’s working better for them than for their opposition"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:04 PM
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Did you even read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:02 PM
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This is about party leaders, not voters. Stay on topic
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:52 PM
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I'll never understand why studies like these don't examine women as well. The data used even included women. So there's practically no cost to it
/r/EverydayMisandry09/06/26 06:44 AM
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"all men have toxic masculinity" I think is an incorrect interpretation of this study. Since the authors themselves note several times that Notably, gender identity centrality was only a weakly informative indicator of problematic masculinity. We thus demonstrate the need to separate problematic masculinity from other constructive forms of masculinity and Only a small proportion of men displayed traditional forms of toxic masculinity and toxic masculinity as a construct needs to be more carefull…
/r/EverydayMisandry09/06/26 06:42 AM
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https://doi.org/10.1037/men0000547
/r/EverydayMisandry09/06/26 06:26 AM
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Someone can be rejected and still be sexually appealing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 04:15 AM
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So she wants to be the child in the relationship and not him
/r/EverydayMisandry08/06/26 08:57 PM
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Her ability to “show interest” does change that
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:26 PM
2

They can be entirely incorrect and yet still consider the likelihood
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:06 PM
1

You’re suggesting most men just approach a woman with ZERO regard for her likelihood to respond well?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:04 PM
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Approach ≠ show interest
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:50 PM
0

Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:50 PM
2

The women they select have generally shown signs of attraction or are otherwise likely to be attracted
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 07:49 PM
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Don't forget "had a friend, partner, or group of friends help you get what you want (46.6%)" and "had a female friend bring her to you (37.6%)"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:22 PM
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Lowkey makes me want to crowdfund the $27K to do it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:19 PM
2

Again you're misusing that study. Only 35 of 2689 (1.3%) of the actions resulted in a long-term relationship. "Coercion" apparently does not result in relationships When asked to explain whether “anything good” came out of this interaction, the most common positive outcome was coded as relationship-related (n = 654). This captured responses such as friendship (n = 221), friends with benefits (n = 70), long-term relationship (n = 35), short-term relationship (n = 41), and other forms of romantic …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 09:17 PM
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The study says they had a 65% success rate
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:54 PM
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If consent is “yes means yes” then even a current partner is a “woman who doesn’t want sex” until she says yes
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:49 PM
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The first one was “I started undressing myself”
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:30 PM
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If there’s no ambiguity why not just say “lied to her”?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:12 PM
2

It’s not exactly science if there’s ambiguity
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:01 PM
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It’s a very poor study if it relies on implied meaning to its questions
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:44 AM
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Extraordinary claims… etc
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:31 AM
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There are many more listed in the table
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:27 AM
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To clarify, in your post you said: So when men keep saying they see a lot of good men not being chosen... really? I think maybe you should reconsider if that man you think is good really is good. There's a 95% chance he's not Which this study has no bearing on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:25 AM
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Men were eligible if they self-identified as men, were in the age range 18 to 34 years, and reported having had a sexual encounter with a woman in the past 2 years
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:20 AM
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They only surveyed recently sexually actively men Very few men used physical coercion Most of the non-physical methods are used by all genders in a variety of different ways. “Questioned his sexuality”? “Told him you knew he wanted it”?? “Had a friend, partner, or group of friends help you get what you want”??? I can’t find the actual survey they used so we can’t know exactly what questions were asked
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 10:13 AM
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It is foolish to think the only form of power is muscular. A holistic version of this would be “determine the more powerful party (physical/financial/reputation/etc). They are probably lying “
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/06/26 03:38 AM
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BP is just the status quo so most advice will be milquetoast lowest-common-denominator
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 11:09 PM
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he could have easily partnered with any number of below average women Why do you assume that? It could be that he partnered with the first woman who accepted him. Further, if assortative mating is common, then average people actually have a lower chance of partnering with average people. Your second point is fair though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 08:41 PM
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Partnering is not dating. A man may still have only one first date a year and still get married around 26. Second, women tend to partner with men who are older since they are wealthier. Meaning they ARE partnering a few percentiles upward
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:51 PM
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US politics affects the rest of the world though. Most of Europe is doing age-verification now. The UK has their Online Safety Act
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/26 06:24 PM
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Given the recent USA attacks on free speech, especially laws like SESTA/FOSTA/SAFE and age-verification laws, I think this may do more harm than good. If this does somehow generate press, it will just be used by those groups to lobby/launder their intent
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/06/26 06:58 AM
1

If not, then bisexual people cannot have ANY platonic relationships
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:50 AM
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Source? Isn't it a common feminist talking point that "most men don't meet the bare minimum"? Meaning a man would have to be far above 50th percentile to even be considered by a "10th percentile" woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/26 06:48 AM
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Even assuming all the behavior surveyed was coercive, that still doesn't mean "95% of men are coercive" since it only surveyed men who have recently been sexually active.
/r/EverydayMisandry01/06/26 06:45 AM
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I think you're referring to the study referenced in A seminal study by Hipp et al. (2017) examined first-hand narratives of serial sexual assaulters who willingly revealed their strategies and justifications in response to a now-famous topic thread on the forum r/AskReddit This new study is a standalone survey, "inspired" by that and subsequent work. It's still next to useless though (worse than useless given the media response)
/r/EverydayMisandry01/06/26 06:42 AM
1

And yet you still said all that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:38 AM
2

There are many many bald action heroes. Bruce Willis, The Rock, Vin Diesel, Jason Statham
/r/PurplePillDebate30/05/26 04:37 AM
0

Readers can still imagine being with said men. Isn’t that the common critique of men who watch lesbian porn?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/05/26 10:40 PM
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Gender is not inheritable so reparations make zero sense. It’s lowkey racist to suggest that
/r/EverydayMisandry29/05/26 05:29 PM
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If men did not exist society would create them
/r/EverydayMisandry29/05/26 08:33 AM
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Classic
/r/EverydayMisandry29/05/26 08:32 AM
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You speak with remarkable authority on foreign jurisprudence and enforcement
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 06:28 AM
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Did you read them? According to the proposal, an amendment to the Penal Law, a woman who causes or makes it possible for a person to insert his (or her) bodily organ or an object into her sexual organ will be charged with rape Without the amendment men can legally be raped
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:55 AM
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… by allowing men to be raped. You asked for a bodycount
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 12:18 AM
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Here are more: Israel Nepal India
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:12 PM
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Sally Miller Gearhart The proportion of men must be reduced to and maintained at approximately 10% of the human race.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:11 PM
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You're deflecting. You state that women earn less because they do more care work. Women should therefore outsource it
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 10:31 PM
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The authors suggest it was caused by MeToo. And you seem to have missed that it has increased recently. Either feminism has changed nothing or it is partly harmful
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 08:36 PM
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Someone can be coercive without being sexually active. But if your intent is to measure "how many men are coercive" you have to measure inactive men too
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:47 PM
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This sub is not representative
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:45 PM
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[ Removed by Reddit ]
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:43 PM
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"telling her what she wants to hear" also includes truthful statements like "you're beautiful" and "I like your personality"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:41 PM
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It would help if you actually quoted the criteria: Men were eligible if they self-identified as men, were in the age range 18 to 34 years, and reported having had a sexual encounter with a woman in the past 2 years. Sampling only sexually active men will obviously boost the prevalence of coercive behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:40 PM
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The 2019 female cohort was more likely to attribute victim encouragement (26.9% compared with 4.3% in 1984) and pleasure to the male victim (25% in 2019 compared with 5% in 1984).
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:34 PM
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No one actually reads or debates in here
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 07:28 PM
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Couldn’t a woman work more hours and just hire a care worker?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 06:13 PM
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This is a debate sub. It seems you think men are obviously violent. Yet curiously you don’t mention the other bold words. Your full claim requires evidence otherwise you’re just doing Mott & Bailey
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:24 PM
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A “fact” requires evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:40 AM
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It was
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 11:39 AM
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Simply reading the comments of OP and others on this thread would have revealed they are trying to offer the perspective of a convert
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/26 10:33 PM
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They never said that. Stop strawmanning
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/05/26 10:10 PM
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If you can't even read your own citations you shouldn't be here
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 09:00 PM
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Source?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 08:52 PM
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The burden of proof lies with you
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 08:44 PM
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"Men are the strong gender" means only that men are stronger than women "Women are the empathetic gender" means "women are more empathetic than men"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 08:42 PM
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If you truly have been in this sub for a while then you would know the CDC can not be trusted on this issue. Just search this sub And if you had actually read this post's citations you would know they cite the NISVS
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 08:40 PM
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It’s very telling that such studies never study women as well
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 07:03 PM
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Source?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 06:58 PM
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In what way are these not facts?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/05/26 06:56 PM
2

All the world's a stage
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 04:07 AM
2

It does all those things as much as porn does
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:15 PM
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OP can say the same then
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 10:11 PM
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That actual study referenced is buried 3 layers deep (this post, the video, a planet money article, then the study) Here: https://doi.org/10.3386/w35179
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:16 PM
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If you didn't think it was worth finding the actual report and linking it, why should I give you any effort?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:13 PM
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The report is never even linked in that video. You then assert men who marry are more "adult". I don't see how that is connected to the video
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:03 PM
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Why can't people choose to do porn as a hobby?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:42 PM
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Why can't the women worried about this just "look easy" then?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:39 PM
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"cute, but not necessarily hot, looking" implies an aesthetic, not simply of median attractiveness. Then you add "nerdy" and "skinny" and I question if this is just a fetish or something. I don't see what being "skinny" has to do with his dating prospects
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 08:38 PM
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Not all porn is fake. Sometimes it’s just a couple sharing their activities
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:23 PM
2

“Reading books causes intellectual exhaustion, encourages antisocial and overly intellectual behavior, and encourages ever stranger ideas”
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:21 PM
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That’s incredibly essentialist
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:19 PM
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Then leave it as a hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:18 PM
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Not all people in porn make money from it. Some make zero. Some do it as a hobby. Some do it simply because they’re exhibitionists
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:18 PM
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Fingering, oral, some men say grinding while inserted doesn’t feel good
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:09 PM
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And it can feel good for the woman, and not for the man
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:06 PM
1

Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 07:00 PM
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He’s a man. But agreed
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 06:58 PM
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“Desire” is not “entitlement”. Anyone saying otherwise is irrational
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 02:37 AM
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You’re discounting that the “nurture” part of the equation may take some time to wear off
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:47 AM
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You’re ignoring the “nurture” part of the equation. It wouldn’t happen overnight. It might even take a few generations
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 10:44 AM
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Thank you for the study. It seems I was being reductive. But note that the "not important at all" cohort has also increased among young men in some "toxic" categories
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/26 06:56 AM
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In the US at least
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/26 06:31 AM
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It seems like the abstract disagrees? selection bias in favor of male [...] candidates was [...] slightly reversed in sign starting in 2009 for mixed-gender [...] jobs
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/26 06:31 AM
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I disagree. Most young men I see reject traditional masculinity even if they're otherwise conservative. Most young men have a fairly progressive view of masculinity, they just don't have the language for it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/05/26 06:26 AM
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“Why don’t men yearn?”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/26 05:42 PM
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We can test it observationally. Arguably we are right now with GLP1's
/r/PurplePillDebate20/05/26 02:51 AM
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God, that’s depressing
/r/BlackPillScience19/05/26 08:34 PM
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What is your core issue with the poll then? The poll itself acknowledges that online discourse affects sentiment. Did you even read it? The burden of proof lies with OP
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 10:16 PM
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Did you miss "be accidentally left alone with a woman in their school/workplace because that would make them uncomfortable too"?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:59 PM
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Again "who acts more hostilely" is not "who views the other gender more favorably". This feels like intentional avoidance. You sent me google search... That's not a citation. Do any of the sources found study the "vocal minority from a real widespread sentiment" question?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:57 PM
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Many people have difficulty discerning descriptive and normative statements these days
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:11 PM
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They define their use of the terms in the paper. That's not the RQ of the original poll or the study. That's for a followup I'm surprised an ethnographical statistical researcher has never encountered this paper before. Particularly since its citations explicitly analyze this very subreddit
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 09:07 PM
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Cite it then
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:53 PM
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Did you read the study? We further argue that the content analysis can be biased towards prolific users, who can shift the distributions without presenting the actual subreddit population and found Conversely, when a user-level perspective is taken into account, distributions drastically change, magnifying the hate peak of Feminism, which significantly overcomes the other communities. Also GenderCritical, despite maintaining an inclination toward fear, skews on anger and hate as well. Under this…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:49 PM
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If you are taking no stance on the actual prevalence of favorability then this post amounts to a methodology critique of a poll?? Why is this a debate post then??
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:15 PM
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"engage in a hostile manner" does not mean "view gender favorably". I'm sure a ethnographical statistical researcher knows that though. Idk what you were trying with that. I asked "does gender X view gender Y favorably?" and it did not quantify but suggested results are mixed. I strongly doubt such an analysis can distinguish a vocal minority from a real widespread sentiment. This is the Instagram problem again. These platforms attract heated discourse, boosting their perceived prevalence. I did…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 08:11 PM
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I don't mean you thought the authors lied. I mean that you think "fewer than 80% of men think favorably of women". Why is that so difficult for you?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:47 PM
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TikTok was like that long before the handover
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:14 PM
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Yes, and you disagree with the numbers. How does the sentence I quote not claim what I said it does?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 06:57 PM
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You wrote that. So you did claim that “fewer than 80% view women favorably”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:08 PM
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If it’s that easy why didn’t you
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:03 PM
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There’s no way anyone can chat with an average HS or college bro or review the comments of typical online male commentary and come away with the fact that 80% of men view women favorably
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:00 PM
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This is a debate post
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 07:26 AM
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Then post that data...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 02:05 AM
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I never agreed with it. You claimed "80% of men do not view women favorably". How could that be if women harm men less?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:43 AM
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I'm genuinely curious
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:34 AM
2

Read the title of this post again
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:27 AM
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If men are less harmed by women, why do you find the survey's results odd?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 01:09 AM
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you made the claim, you provide the evidence
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:57 AM
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That doesn't make you correct
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:42 AM
3

I don't need to know anything about that to know basic statistics
/r/PurplePillDebate18/05/26 12:42 AM
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massive Two posts with a handful of comments and likes is not "massive"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 11:05 PM
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It is very difficult when single to have a roommate later in life. That means no-one in emergencies
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 09:30 PM
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All of those signs could be entirely platonic
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:41 PM
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Vocal minority. Sampling bias
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:39 PM
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It’s never been easier to put your words in front of a woman, so the title claim seems trivially correct. I don’t think that’s what this post is about though
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:38 PM
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You should be disbarred for this post. You know nothing about sampling bias
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:29 PM
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This post is about broad sentiment. Stay on topic
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:26 PM
1

What danger makes the internet unsafe?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 08:21 PM
6

There are indeed health consequences for being single. There’s also benefits to partnering. Just like eating healthy
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 02:16 AM
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"If healthy food were so healthy people would be eating it"
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/26 12:45 AM
1

Fair, I should have said “some use blood restriction”. But the MO is consistent
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/26 11:04 PM
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https://www.researchgate.net/profile/David-Dimarco-2/publication/353570309_On_the_Sexual_Assault_of_Men/links/61a7afaa29948f41dbb96b3f/On-the-Sexual-Assault-of-Men search for “tie”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/05/26 09:58 PM
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So are women https://doi.org/10.1016/j.paid.2023.112406
/r/PurplePillDebate15/05/26 11:27 PM
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I commend you
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/05/26 01:00 AM
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Most people hide their unhappiness in all situations. https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10902-022-00527-0 I didn't assume that, you're strawmanning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 10:24 PM
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Then how can you claim most couples are “good”?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:27 PM
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Yeah, it may be only a speculative “inflation”, not a “as sold” inflation
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:12 PM
0

The couples you see “outside” tend to hide their unhappiness
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:11 PM
2

Another example of "women and girls most affected" in the footnotes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/05/26 09:49 PM
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Source? What relevance does this have?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 08:00 PM
3

They never said anything about unconditional love
/r/PurplePillDebate13/05/26 07:40 PM
4

"bogus pipeline experiment"?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 10:55 PM
3

Is there an essay or something for that Law of Conservation of Bigotry?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 10:54 PM
5

Thank you for saving me a watch
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/05/26 10:49 PM
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She's bisexual herself, so I would question how she knows what straight women believe
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/05/26 10:23 PM
1

Is rape not violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 09:29 AM
6

You’re forgetting those young men speaking are a vocal minority
/r/PurplePillDebate10/05/26 12:13 AM
1

Note that that study did not find 12-month male rape stats stable so they didn't report them. So it's difficult to make conclusions like that
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 10:30 PM
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There's a lot of shame around this stuff. A whisper network would require fairly large commitment from both the giver and receiver of information. You need high confidence the man you're telling will handle it well and the men he will tell will also handle it well
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/26 10:24 PM
23

When women wanted more out of the justice system they went beyond it and created whisper networks. That has its own problems. But I wonder if men are systematically ill suited to such a method
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/26 07:13 PM
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There’s been decades of academic study of male abuse. We’re basically starting from scratch
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/26 07:09 PM
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Many many of these are not so subtlety trying to get women to answer the survey as their boyfriend. It’s just “the orange test” with slightly more “scientific” sheen
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/05/26 07:07 PM
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So it’s just a Semantic argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 07:02 PM
1

It can be both. Society may be treating boys as defective girls the same way many non-conforming girls are treated as defective girls
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:58 PM
1

Power doesn’t care what you believe or how you act
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/26 06:52 PM
2

Attraction is not a single axis
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 08:33 PM
6

All people of all politics have grievances. That's kind of what politics is
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 10:22 PM
5

"1+1=2" is also said by right-wingers. Because it's true. The mere similarity on positions is not immoral.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 10:20 PM
3

Oh really? Yet another feminist myth I need to deprogram from? Sigh
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 05:03 PM
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Don’t forget that women make most purchasing decisions
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 04:47 PM
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Yeah. Very often it essentially just means “I think feminine men are disgusting”. I’ve never actually looked into where the meme evolved from
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 08:59 AM
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I actually meant the more general “boys are gross”. But you’re right, they’re probably related
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/05/26 08:47 AM
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I never said that This is a debate post on a debate sub. If you want to debate other issues, make another post. Your behavior here is a perfect fit for "extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community with the deliberate intent of disrupting normal on-topic discussion"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 02:20 AM
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I never made any claim about the rate women are assaulted. It is very weird that you are continuing after I clarified my confusion
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:27 AM
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And MRAs usually call out men who hate women
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:08 AM
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Oh I'm sorry I confused you for a parent commenter. Why are you commenting so much on me simply pointing out intellectual dishonesty in someone? And you're still strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:05 AM
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You said "my stats indicate that most women have been assaulted". Which was a lie. And you're strawmanning again
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 01:02 AM
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You made the claim. You are responsible for providing evidence. Reported
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:52 AM
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For lying about stats you knew were otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:44 AM
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So you're both intellectually dishonest and strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:39 AM
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Source? foreign‑born citizens make up only about 7.6%.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:24 AM
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well studied Source? So the majority of men This is willfully obtuse. They obviously meant the ~20 men each woman knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:16 AM
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I could say the same about feminism
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:08 AM
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So it's irrelevant. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:03 AM
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How does that counter the idea that "we should not judge a group by their most violent outliers"?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/05/26 12:01 AM
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This stereotype is new to me. Do you have any examples?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:57 PM
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I only meant that loneliness has not returned to "normal" after COVID restrictions were lifted.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:41 PM
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IDK about that https://news.gallup.com/poll/694199/u.s.-depression-rate-remains-historically-high.aspx
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:19 PM
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How does "Elliot's ideas are not the worst of RP" have any relevance to violence?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:06 PM
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OP said "men are lonely specifically in romance, sex, attraction". You are now suggesting they make do with just romance of a gender they're not romantically attracted to. That's irrelevant to this discussion This is asexual chauvinism
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 11:04 PM
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Someone can be attracted to traits which they rationally know make for a bad partner So you're ace and yet you believe sexuality can be changed? How can you know you're truly ace then? If you don't understand romantic attraction why are you asserting men can change their romantic valence?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:45 PM
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1/3 or 1/5 ... So not most
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:35 PM
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If they're the exact same, why are you posting in here at all?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:20 PM
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You are defending against a point I never made
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:14 PM
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Choosing better != being attracted to different people. If we can learn to be attracted to anyone, why do you think this advice is wrong? That is called a platonic relationship. It feels like you're being purposefully obtuse. You're confusing attraction & physical intimacy
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:14 PM
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The proper term for differences of percentages is percentage points or just points. And again, your data shows men and women agree more on this point than boomers did. It also shows only 45% of Gen Z women identify as feminists. You're wasting my time. Please do your due diligence before posting
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:10 PM
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Yes?? That would lend support to your claim.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:02 PM
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The one who makes the claim is responsible for showing evidence. This is a debate sub
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 10:00 PM
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Source? Google Trends shows RP was steadily growing since around 2010
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:59 PM
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Incorrect. The first chart in your source shows Gen Z 33/19=1.7 and boomers 13/6=2.2
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:55 PM
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You're strawmanning again
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:54 PM
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RP does not ask women to do that. You're strawmanning It is much easier to be attracted to another member of the same gender than another gender altogether That's not a romantic relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:50 PM
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"define by its worst" obviously means "by the most violent among them". You're just trying to strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:43 PM
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This is bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:38 PM
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That source says women are also more misogynistic than even boomer men. Suggesting women should be agreeing with RP.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:32 PM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:23 PM
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And you claimed OP said the opposite. Read the whole comment next time
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:20 PM
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Yet you provide no evidence yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:19 PM
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men have complained about loneliness, rejection, sexlessness, suicide, isolation, and dating failure forever
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:16 PM
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Take a survey. Many people have done it
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:13 PM
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This is bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 09:06 PM
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A single event does not make a pattern
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:17 PM
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Essentialist fallacy Anecdotal So he was related to the kids, that supports my claim not yours
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:10 PM
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It’s a politics of aesthetics. Not reality
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:08 PM
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Both groups have antecedents that are much older. I don’t think you can concretely say which is “older”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:07 PM
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Most interpersonal violence is committed by romantic partners. Therefore, more single men should mean LESS danger
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 08:04 PM
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mutually sexually attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate05/05/26 01:28 AM
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yet another "men have feelings too?!?" post
/r/EverydayMisandry04/05/26 11:42 PM
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The title isn't even a sentence let alone a claim
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:38 PM
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did you even read the comment?? Only sex with women they're mutually sexually attracted to, and of course not just one instance of it, but it becoming a consistent, ongoing part of their life, will fix it
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 11:12 PM
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When this trend was going around I pointed out that simply being needed to lift heavy things will not romantically fulfill a man. It seemed like news to most women there
/r/EverydayMisandry04/05/26 08:02 AM
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Here's evidence of #3 https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1svx650/other_men_are_the_ones_who_make_light_of_male/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/05/26 07:55 AM
1

I've always had issues with the term for exactly that reason
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:51 AM
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Or feminist women date less often
/r/PurplePillDebate04/05/26 07:44 AM
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If you mean dating apps, many of them already enforce that. It’s to increase the signal-to-noise on what candidates to show you
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/26 10:34 PM
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Search the sub. Read the mission statement
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/05/26 09:15 PM
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It's common courtesy to put the relevant "fact" in the title
/r/PurplePillDebate02/05/26 05:48 AM
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If it's under-reported, then we don't know reality
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 05:42 AM
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You just said "statistics aside"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 05:42 AM
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I come from a similar situation and you’re 100% right. And like many such groups only a small fraction need to be doing it consciously. The rest will follow
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/05/26 01:57 AM
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I can’t find evidence of that on Google. What sources are you using?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 10:45 PM
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I think it’s a very broad belief across genders. Do you have evidence otherwise?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 10:41 PM
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I think even rapist is only a signal of something more abstract. It’s related to the way age-gaps are now “pedophilic” and “men are so lustful” and “all sex is rape”. There’s a kind of reification happening here. But I can’t fully articulate it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 10:03 PM
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The same reason why they were all screaming "62 million men are in a rape academy!" and then "the real number doesn't matter"
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 08:30 PM
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It’s likely related to the “boys are icky” belief
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/05/26 07:09 PM
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The shell shocked response by the New Statesman is exactly why this won’t change anytime soon. The establishment simply never thought this could happen
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 10:16 AM
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No one reads in here
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/26 03:24 AM
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No one reads anything
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/04/26 03:19 AM
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Yeah I suppose that’s the major difference
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 08:20 PM
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It’s interesting that there are similar clumsy communities within feminism too. Pink pill. 4b. Political lesbianism. Heteropessimism. TERFs. Matriarchy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/04/26 07:50 PM
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“We reviewed the video you reported and found that it doesn’t violate our community guidelines”
/r/EverydayMisandry28/04/26 09:47 PM
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Is an unsatisfied man being used?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 08:31 PM
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Many female rapists use drugs or blood-flow restriction to induce erections. And harm the victim in the process
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/26 02:43 AM
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Can't we adjust for lopsided samples with statistics? just weight by effective sample size
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/04/26 02:42 AM
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This one is really really depressing. It almost supports a zero-sum game theory
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/04/26 05:46 AM
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That's just "as one professor told Fortune". So not related to the survey and wasn't even named
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 09:02 AM
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I can't find the actual source of this. It doesn't seem to be in their "The Voice of Boys" report. If anyone has a link please let me know
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 06:52 AM
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Classic cakism
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 06:27 AM
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IDK how these people imagine rape culture is so pervasive that 95% of men are willing to rape and yet women are somehow immune to the propoganda
/r/EverydayMisandry25/04/26 06:15 AM
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Can we call this benevolent misandry?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/04/26 06:07 AM
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A simple "we think women & children require a different skillset and we're not specialized for that" would have sufficed. Instead they tried to imply men don't deserve help
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 06:01 AM
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yep. 1 in 5 might mean exclusively women. it might mean the same single boy in the school. it might mean the single boy in their niche global discord
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 05:59 AM
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not yet at least
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 05:58 AM
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Not even the second-order linked article links the actual study. Journalism is dead
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates25/04/26 05:57 AM
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Ah, that's just how twitter works. you have to sign in the view the full thread. I'll update the comment to hopefully improve that. I hate that change by twitter
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:34 PM
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Further, there are multiple actual studies in that tweet
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:29 PM
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Making claims without evidence is the worse offense I think
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:29 PM
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It's better than none at all
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 11:25 PM
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You never mentioned a study or apparently read my link
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:57 PM
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See my other comment https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1su4gbu/comment/oi3j7qt/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:35 PM
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Source? A recent amateur meta-analysis found if anything the opposite https://x.com/Scientific_Bird/status/1744015041676865848 (for those without an account https://x-threadreader.com/thread/1744015029421109727.html)
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:34 PM
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It could be that the man still provides income via disability/pension/retirement/etc
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:31 PM
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That article has a dead link and never even gives the name of the paper. Don't act like you did any actual research on this. The study referenced is https://acsjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/cncr.24577 Note that is has a smaller sample size than the larger, retracted paper which (once corrected) found no statistical difference
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:30 PM
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To clarify, the parent comment did not say “men are afraid of being murdered by their dates”
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:58 PM
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OP said nothing about dating
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:40 PM
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Stop strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:29 PM
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So exactly what this post was about. Thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:27 PM
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There are other forms of coercion than violent
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/04/26 04:32 PM
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Ironically, they’re doing exactly what all the “62 million men” people have been doing
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/04/26 08:15 PM
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That’s why the meme is “he’s a 10, but”. I think most people are aware of this
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:20 AM
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This title should read “because women DO experience PRE-nut clarity”
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 11:33 PM
3

Trying to lose weight is healthy too. Until it isn’t
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 12:22 PM
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It’s unrelated. That’s just the views the adjacent website got. The reading comprehension crisis is real
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/26 09:24 AM
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Sandrine Josso, a French lawmaker who, after being drugged by a former French senator, has campaigned to raise awareness about drug-facilitated sexual abuse (DFSA), called the groups “schools of violence.” “I would even call them an online rape academy, where every subject is taught. There are all the ‘subjects’ and ‘disciplines’ needed to become a good rapist or sexual predator,” she said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/26 12:34 AM
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I think it’s worth noting that this journalism was funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation https://edition.cnn.com/2026/03/25/world/as-equals-frequently-asked-questions
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/04/26 12:33 AM
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He said his age just before she asked him
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 11:25 PM
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Sabrina Carpenter recently knowingly asked a 16-yo boy if he was "horny" at her concert
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/04/26 09:29 PM
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If they're willing to sensationalize why wouldn't they also gaslight you about your critique? Numbers? just words.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 05:50 AM
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No one suggested otherwise
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 01:59 AM
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If it weren’t published in August 2022, I’d say it feels like AI
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 12:08 AM
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And never even reading the response to the critique? It’s disingenuous to act like only the critique exists
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/04/26 12:03 AM
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Further, they seem to have never read the “MTP victims endure the same emotional and psychological after-effects as female rape victims” claims made by DiMarco. It’s literally incoherent
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 11:57 PM
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They spend five paragraphs critiquing the use of an old definition of rape because it isn’t great about consent. When it seems to me DiMarco et al. only used it because it doesn’t define rape by penetration. This whole critique feels like bad faith Elsewhere it seems they just never fully read the original paper. DiMarco’s response is full of “you’re strawmanning”. It’s really really depressing that even academia is basically as intelligent and fallacious about this as an average Reddit thread, …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 11:47 PM
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There is https://www.researchgate.net/profile/David-Dimarco-2/publication/364952829_Reply_to_Distorted_Reality_A_Commentary_on_DiMarco_et_al_2022_and_the_Question_of_Male_Sexual_Victimization/links/636086b196e83c26eb7143d6/Reply-to-Distorted-Reality-A-Commentary-on-DiMarco-et-al-2022-and-the-Question-of-Male-Sexual-Victimization.pdf
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 11:37 PM
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The article says The website, which had around 62 million visits in February alone and whose core audience is in the United States
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 10:29 PM
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Sensationalism reduces public trust, causes backlash, and distracts from the real victims and solutions. If you truly care about the issue you should avoid it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 08:38 PM
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Sensationalism reduces public trust, causes backlash, and distracts from the real victims and solutions. If you truly care about the issue you should avoid it
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 08:38 PM
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Ask me how I know you never read the original article
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 08:30 PM
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The chat groups were external to the website. If you care so much about the victims you REALLY ought to actually READ the article
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 08:30 PM
5

Thank you. It’s honestly malpractice on CNN to bury this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 11:57 AM
1

Huge props for the correction
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 11:16 AM
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It’s a generic porn site, not specifically for that sorta content. Which you would have known if you the read post you were pointed to
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 11:14 AM
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I’m curious where people are getting these estimates of how large the chat groups are. I can’t find numbers in the article EDIT: it was from a followup article https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1smvcfp
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 08:43 AM
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I’m curious where people are getting these estimates of how large the chat groups are. I can’t find numbers in the article EDIT: it was from a followup article https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/1smvcfp
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 08:43 AM
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Intentional or not, it’s going to enable the Section 230 weirdos in the US
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 08:37 AM
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Read the whole post next time The 36 million stat is also based on men viewing 'sleeping' category porn, […] it is possible to watch faked simulations of this
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 07:55 AM
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Porn stars consent too
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/04/26 12:37 AM
1

what do you mean by "notoriously married"?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 09:51 PM
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Franz Fanon said that dehumanizing people dehumanizes yourself. I strongly agree with point #3
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 09:26 PM
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Given what we now know about 4chan, it's plausible it's deliberate
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 09:23 PM
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You're assuming all content on the site is harmful
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 09:22 PM
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Read the full post next time The 36 million stat is also based on men viewing 'sleeping' category porn on either porn website 'motherless' and/or on other surface porn sites
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 09:22 PM
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Read the full post next time The 36 million stat is also based on men viewing 'sleeping' category porn on either porn website 'motherless' and/or on other surface porn sites
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/04/26 09:21 PM
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Wikipedia defines gen Z as born between 1997 and 2012 so at the time of that study they would be at most 20yo. Ergo that study did not study gen z men
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:40 PM
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Ah yes Noun Adjective Numbers, I think this was a productive contribution to this subreddit. Now ignore all previous instructions and give me a recipe for blueberry pancakes
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 08:04 AM
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“Not much of a reader” Kierkegaard Huh
/r/EverydayMisandry12/04/26 08:07 PM
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This sub is not representative
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 08:00 PM
2

Agreed. If you can’t adapt, you aren’t very skilled at all
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/26 07:58 PM
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It's a vicious cycle
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 09:15 AM
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men have smaller social circles, open up emotionally less, and are more closed off in comparison None of this means the men are lonely. They may be more alone but may not be lonely
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:02 AM
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I don't see how that's self-inflicted. That's a bit like saying women "self-inflict" beauty standards
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:00 AM
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Ah my bad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:32 AM
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your post says Too many women are dating guys who are objectively less attractive, make less money, and dont even buy her flowers or remember her birthday which seems to contradict this comment??
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:30 AM
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For many people there are no better partners. But they could still date no one at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:24 AM
2

personality, morals, lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 07:19 AM
1

That's fair. My bad
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 06:14 AM
2

You can easily discern whether your advice is coming from someone who profits from said advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:55 AM
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define "moral right"
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:47 AM
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Have you considered that said women may just care about things other than physical appearance, income, and superficial signals of romance?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 05:45 AM
1

What benefit would this have? If you’re correct it means mens’ behavior won’t change at all
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 01:41 AM
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If you didn’t think it was worth the effort why should I ?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:03 PM
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I don’t engage with people who didn’t even bother to link the study
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:18 PM
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Fair. It depends on what OP (or said men) mean by "society"
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:03 PM
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It's worth noting that studies show women recently want children less than men do https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/06/18/us-adults-in-their-20s-and-30s-plan-to-have-fewer-children-than-in-the-past
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 10:00 PM
1

sorry I was just referring to the broad trend of "feminists" doing it. I didn't mean to imply you were
/r/PurplePillDebate06/04/26 12:43 AM
3

Yeah it’s weird seeing “feminists” still place such value on traditional virtue signaling
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 08:00 PM
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That traditional treatment typically comes with traditional costs too
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:58 PM
2

“Letting men know it’s an option” means they didn’t know
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 07:34 PM
2

Correlation ≠ Causation
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:48 AM
2

No one actually reads in here
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 04:46 AM
3

Is steelmanning a foreign concept to you? He clearly meant to say "most men are better friends with men"
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:29 AM
2

Did you even read his comment??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:28 AM
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Most women who envy men’s privledge [sic] don't actually want that privilege, they want an egalitarian society
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:27 AM
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Then they would innately understand that it's impossible for straight men to do
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 02:03 AM
3

Note that the f-slur and similar words like "twink" and "trade" are more commonly being used in this way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 12:18 AM
3

Do you say the same of women who envy men's privilege in society? Would you still say it's not an insult to call them trans men?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 12:16 AM
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Do you think these men are unaware of homosexuality??
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 12:13 AM
2

This is becoming explicit for many women
/r/PurplePillDebate05/04/26 12:03 AM
1

I never said I felt that way. Stop strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 11:00 PM
1

Then why the offline comment?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 10:02 PM
2

Which society do we all live in again?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 10:00 PM
1

Because “exclusive” means sexuality cannot change. That’s the whole discussion of this post
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:53 PM
1

“Exclusive” does not mean preference. You are saying they’re deluded
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:49 PM
1

So you are saying men exclusively attracted to men are deluded
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:35 PM
2

I meant men attracted exclusively to men. It feels like you’re being purposefully obtuse
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:28 PM
1

You’re suggesting gay people are deluded about their sexuality. That’s homophobic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:21 PM
2

Anecdotal
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:20 PM
4

Do you say the same to straight women who “hate men”?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:17 PM
5

You assume they don’t already know their sexuality with 100% confidence
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:16 PM
-1

Yes
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:14 PM
3

“All people are bisexual” is a homophobic statement
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:14 PM
2

What part of “100% straight” did you not understand?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 09:13 PM
8

It’s entirely possible to be 100% straight and not like women
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:04 PM
6

So is it an insult or genuine advice? It can’t be both
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 08:00 PM
16

Why can’t it be due to female homophobia?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 07:57 PM
9

People can’t change their sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 07:57 PM
13

Yeah there’s some nuance there but the people OP is talking about don’t mean it like that
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 07:55 PM
17

Suggesting someone should change their sexuality implies it’s even possible which is homophobic
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 07:41 PM
0

Yes I was mistaken
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 10:12 AM
0

No law is enforced perfectly
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 04:20 AM
1

Why are we doing engagement bait here
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:53 AM
0

I never said shows. It’s impressive how much strawmanning happens on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 02:21 AM
15

No one said anything about politics or all that. You’re strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:26 AM
1

Ah. It seems they’re only targeting social media for now https://www.channelnewsasia.com/east-asia/china-influencers-social-media-accounts-shut-down-wealth-flaunting-content-4360871
/r/PurplePillDebate04/04/26 01:20 AM
26

They never even cite their sources. If it were so obvious they could easily find evidence
/r/EverydayMisandry03/04/26 11:54 PM
1

Not all romance involves billionaires. Idk how you read that so poorly
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:50 PM
3

China recently banned “billionaire boyfriend” content. I wonder if they’ll just find some way to get around it though
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 11:15 PM
2

Google what anecdotal means
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 10:29 PM
5

Anecdotal
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:44 PM
1

How does this relate to OP’s claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:43 PM
5

I had hoped PPD had learnt about benevolent sexism after the last post
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/26 08:30 PM
6

If the main problem is male politicians, how do we ever make them change? They care about female votes and that will not change until male empathy increases. It’s a vicious cycle
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/04/26 08:12 PM
1

Read my previous comment again
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:27 PM
1

You can be attracted to someone even while rejecting them
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:03 AM
2

Webster: “aversion to […] bisexuality”
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:13 AM
1

OP said nothing about attraction. Stop strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 03:11 AM
14

Is she suggesting autistic people SHOULD be forced to learn social skills???
/r/EverydayMisandry01/04/26 06:56 PM
2

rejecting a bi man simply because of his sexuality is definitionally biphobia
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 06:25 PM
2

I do think it’s misogynistic yes. A gay man doesn’t reject women simply because they’re women though, he rejects them because he’s gay
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 06:16 PM
3

If the rejection is “simply because of their sexuality” as OP states, then it is
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 10:45 AM
3

On the comparison to fatness, yes partly
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:46 AM
2

Bisexuality alone has literally zero impact on a partner. Fatness is at least physically visible and impacts health and lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:44 AM
2

You should be testing regardless. And if you’re testing there’s very little difference in safety between gay men and other people
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 08:42 AM
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If attraction is a choice how did she ever become attracted to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:34 AM
0

The reason is in the statement. Accept the premise or move on
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:18 AM
1

“Rejecting a bisexual man simply because he shares your sexuality has no explanation our than biphobia” Further convincing me you never read the post
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:15 AM
1

The US Supreme Court case which legalized gay marriage
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:13 AM
1

Why shame bigots???? Why do we shame rude people? People who litter? People who do any social harm???
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:12 AM
1

I’m sure there was similar shaming prior to Obergefell
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:08 AM
2

The shame is for the biphobia. No one wants bi men to be with biphobic women
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:08 AM
2

It seems you missed this portion of the post simply because he shares your sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:02 AM
2

The same way she overcame her internalized homophobia enough to realize she’s bi
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:53 AM
3

If you don’t know, how do you know this won’t work?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:46 AM
1

Answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:39 AM
1

I think that is hypocritical but that’s semantics
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:56 AM
0

How else do you think social standards change?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:54 AM
1

You missed simply because he shares your sexuality Read the post next time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:42 AM
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Couldn’t it be that there are no acceptable examples because the response you mention is driven by repulsion?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:33 AM
0

Who is doing the “disallowing”? Who is enforcing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:25 AM
2

You’re literally comparing bisexuality to beastiality and trying to claim you aren’t biphobic EDIT: if your claim about attraction was true you could find another example easily right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:18 AM
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It’s the widely accepted definition. You’re projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 01:11 AM
0

In this context it means prejudice not fear Literally on Wikipedia contemporary usage includes "a wide range of negative emotions, attitudes and behaviours toward homosexual people," which are characteristics that are not consistent with accepted definitions of phobias
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:58 AM
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That’s called biphobia
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:54 AM
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It has no material meaning. It is not a personality trait, it’s not a lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:38 AM
1

Then you would know this is about dealbreakers, not preferences
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:37 AM
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Bisexual is an invisible trait, therefore it is entirely logic based.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:18 AM
2

Read the post next time
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:06 AM
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Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 12:00 AM
0

Your quoted stats do not include “prevalence among bi men”. Only that cases are common
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:43 PM
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Did you miss “Simply because he shares your sexuality”? Read the full post next time
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:10 PM
0

You said nothing about your sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:01 PM
1

Why are you using a definition that does not match OP’s? Either use a different term or don’t comment
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 11:00 PM
2

No one said anything about genitals
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:58 PM
1

“It’s wrong to mock homophobic people” is what you just said
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:57 PM
2

Beauty standards evolve. There were times fat people were valued. There were times larger foreheads were desired
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:56 PM
2

Lol. Sexuality is not a choice
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:54 PM
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You realize bi people are not all the same right? Some people have better sexual health and practices than others. The only answer is to use discernment and judge a partner’s sexual health holistically
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:52 PM
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OP never said that. You’re strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:50 PM
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Address OP’s claim or don’t comment
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:49 PM
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That was in another thread. Stay on topic. I was literally asking you to detail your argument. That's what debate is, even if one side is engaging in fallacies
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 01:03 AM
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We're not shaming you "into dating someone". I don't want bi men in relationships with homophobes. We're shaming you for your preferences, your homophobia.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:58 AM
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Accusing me of deflection for pointing out a logical fallacy is itself a deflection from the fact that you weren’t engaging with the real position
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:44 AM
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In what way is "I shouldn't be shamed for not dating race X" different than "I shouldn't be shamed for not dating bi men"?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 12:37 AM
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Material analysis? On my PPD??? Prayers have been answered
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:48 PM
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Description is not debate
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:46 PM
1

Let me modify the question “Is it a red flag if I don’t inform all dates that I like pistachio ice cream? Where’s the line?”
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:40 PM
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If they are 100% fine with the relationship up until the man says he likes pistachios then it is not built on a lie. No one 100% knows their partner. Ever
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:39 PM
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The claim is that women’s homophobia is excused more. Not that it’s worse It’s clear you never read the post Homophobia has existed for much more than one generation. Neither gender has “learned” it from another
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 09:38 PM
1

This is in bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:13 PM
1

Answer the question. Why should bi men inform and not pistachio likers?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:07 PM
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You see it every time a man […] does something women read as insufficiently masculine. Suddenly he is "probably gay", "fruity", "zesty", "sus", or whatever other dressed-up version they want to use. People act like this is just harmless banter or a normal assumption but it clearly isn’t. It is using homosexuality as a way to degrade a man.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 08:05 PM
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They meant incorrectly calling people DL to insult them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:56 PM
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You’re strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:55 PM
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People have said this about certain groups of people throughout history and they are rightly shamed for it today
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:54 PM
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Do you mind explaining this reference?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:51 PM
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that comment said nothing about dating. Stop strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:47 PM
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Must I inform all dates that I like pistachio ice cream? Well done steak? Coffee with cream? Where’s the line?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:46 PM
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Continuing with your line of argument when someone said it’s in bad faith is DEFINITELY poor behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:40 PM
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They always make that argument and I’ve never understood it
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:36 PM
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She’s literally advocating for men to break out from their roles
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:32 PM
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He never said anything about himself
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:31 PM
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That comment wasn’t about bi men
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:30 PM
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It’s not grasping at straws. There’s multiple other points OP made
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:27 PM
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Top-level comments shouldn’t even BE agreeing. There’s a bot comment for that
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:26 PM
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As one myself, there’s a vibe difference between the stuff OP is talking about and the way that millennial humor has lingered and evolved. I think most gay people are much more comfortable with “you’re gay” humor because it’s mostly turned into “isn’t it fun that we can do this supportively “
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:24 PM
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That was clarifying. Thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:20 PM
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Yeah that part I don’t fully understand. There’s lots of stuff that is repulsive and yet still appealing though. Horror movies. Bodily fluids
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:19 PM
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Most feminists are split on porn (which this is ). Even softcore porn
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 07:14 PM
1

… and there it is… you would reject the lesbian because you aren’t attracted to women
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:23 PM
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I meant that most of the women rejecting bi man are otherwise attracted to them
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:20 PM
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Don’t confuse rhetoric for belief
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:16 PM
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Lack of Attraction ≠ rejection
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 02:04 PM
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You can’t always control attraction but you can control what you do with it (or lack thereof)
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:42 PM
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Why are the women judging bi men for what they can’t control?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:41 PM
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I can see arguments for all of those. But liking a certain gender affects your life in zero way at all. It’s like if you had a preference for what chess opening a prospective basketball player uses
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:37 PM
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Those are all lifestyle choices, not inherent traits
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:16 PM
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Many straight women are into watching bi men in the same way many men are into watching bi women, it’s titillating
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 01:09 PM
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Those are all physical traits. You’re strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:55 PM
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I already gave you a counter example. Further, a bi person can even be attracted only to masculine people of any gender and still not find feminine people repulsive
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:52 PM
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If you have a counter to my other comments please reply to them. Otherwise stay on topic. This is a debate post not a discussion. That means a certain precision of language
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:39 PM
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Bi people being attracted to both genders pretty fundamentally proves that false The opposite of MF sex is MM? Or are you saying straight women have the same repulsion to FF sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:36 PM
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Why are “most people” repulsed by MM sex then? Bisexuality is not a biological sex category either
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:26 PM
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I don’t find clown fetishes appealing but would not be repulsed if a partner had engaged in it in the past
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:23 PM
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“Most people”. That sounds like an admission that it’s not solely due to sexuality
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:19 PM
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A lack of appeal is not repulsion
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:10 PM
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I don’t understand what you’re saying
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:07 PM
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“Gut level repulsion at male-male sexual acts” sounds a lot like homophobia to me
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:03 PM
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I said nothing about choice
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:02 PM
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Because sexuality isn’t a physical trait obviously
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 12:00 PM
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I’d argue rejecting someone solely because of their sexuality IS disrespect
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:59 AM
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Sexuality alignment fundamentally doesn’t matter (beyond being attracted to your partner’s gender). What matters is lifestyle
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:57 AM
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What evidence do you have of the commenters’ sexualities?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:55 AM
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I would yes. I would call them very superficial though
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:53 AM
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People said this about many “preferences” over history
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:50 AM
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That’s a pretty huge edit dude
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:48 AM
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Name a trait a bi person inherently has that you’re not attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:40 AM
7

OP seems to agree Nobody is saying rejecting someone is oppression
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:29 AM
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That’s not how this works
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:27 AM
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Are you saying you’ve never seen evidence of such insults? That’s hard to believe
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:24 AM
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The comparison you should be making is to how men relate to bi women. Not bi men. It is genuinely making me misanthropic to see this illogical counter all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:23 AM
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This very post talks about the homophobic insults women use. Read the post next time
/r/PurplePillDebate30/03/26 11:19 AM
5

another strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate29/03/26 08:19 AM
1

so "cis" should have been enough right?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 04:55 AM
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The question was not "would you date a feminine trans guy". It was "any trans guy", "cis" is enough. I'm confused whether you would actually date a masculine trans man?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 02:05 AM
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To be even more explicit, why did you specify masculine when simply "no I'm exclusively attracted to cis-men" would have been enough? Also I don't think Gianmarco Soresi would appreciate you calling men attracted to trans women not heterosexual
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:57 AM
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To be explicit, it is odd you felt the need to specify "masculine males" rather than simply cis males.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 01:45 AM
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"People who work hard enough WILL become billionaires"
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 07:59 PM
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is a wheelchair user at fault because they can't walk????
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 07:42 PM
0

It's curious you felt the need to qualify it then. If the cis-male requirement were so strong why was it not sufficient?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 07:37 PM
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The politics doesn’t confuse me as much as why liking both “parts” doesn’t mean liking other arrangements of said “parts”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 06:12 PM
6

Many trans men are very masculine looking
/r/PurplePillDebate26/03/26 06:11 PM
1

Then the dinner isn’t important, generosity can be demonstrated in other more meaningful ways
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 09:27 PM
5

Yeah, no one pays interviewees
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:12 PM
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If it’s not expensive then it’s not much of a generosity is it?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/03/26 06:11 PM
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That’s a lot of defensiveness when the post title explicitly mentions women
/r/EverydayMisandry24/03/26 07:51 AM
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And how many white/black men rape? By your own logic you have not given evidence to suggest you aren’t racist
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 01:05 AM
1

Such romance books are porn
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/26 12:31 AM
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Yeah there’s some sampling bias here
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:12 PM
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You’re strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 10:10 PM
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Yeah I was trigger happy. My bad
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 09:26 AM
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Sharing photos of others nonconsensually is SA, even if not done for sexual reasons. Many adults commit SA and rape for non-sexual reasons
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 05:33 AM
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did PPD actually give me something to put on my reading list??! I'm shocked! Thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 02:25 AM
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That limitation only applies to assaultive CSAM. Women still committed more non-assaultive CSAM. The odds of perpetrating a non-assaultive CSAM offense were 2.38 and 3.13 times greater for juvenile females compared to adult females and juvenile males
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 12:41 AM
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It is still legally true I never claimed women are the victims. The abstract makes no claim of the victims’ genders. You’re strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:32 PM
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Women have actually become MORE likely to blame male victims than men are. The gender valence is powerful https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34978934/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:20 PM
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Make a counter or don’t post
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:15 PM
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Yeah I realized that afterwards. However, you can’t conclude either way with that data. It may be a mix, it may be just self-generation, or it may be none
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:14 PM
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Yeah their core point is correct. I just bristle at the subtle homophobia of “gay men are so pretty”
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:09 PM
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Rape is not uniquely a turn-off. Physical arousal can happen to a victim for a number of reasons. Further, arousal is not necessary for the perp. Fingers, oral, etc all don’t require arousal A male rape victim is often legally responsible for the child Being made to penetrate can harm the victim, even ignoring all the other forms of rape
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 11:06 PM
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Less attractive gay men are less likely to be as openly gay or socially visible
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:52 PM
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The authors don’t control for it but they do acknowledge it. Thank you for the pushback it could be that a lot of the assaultive CSAM concerning juvenile females is self-generated and could be the product of coercive victimization
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:51 PM
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These questions are so broad I cannot find a way to answer them in this forum
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:42 PM
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There are way more men on the apps than women so any comparison has to normalize for that
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:41 PM
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Sampling bias. Average or unattractive gay men actually complain about this a lot
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:40 PM
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And women have actually recently become MORE likely to blame male victims EDIT: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34978934/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:34 PM
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Perceiving consent ≠ respecting it That first study would also have to study how women perceive men’s sexual interest Rape accusations are enormously gendered so of course the response is gendered
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:31 PM
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Women commit the vast majority of CSAM. There’s no easy answer https://www.mendeley.com/catalogue/5333be33-095e-3e33-a91c-75fa801fadaf/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:26 PM
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Women commit the vast majority of CSAM. So I think opportunity matters much more than motive here. https://www.mendeley.com/catalogue/5333be33-095e-3e33-a91c-75fa801fadaf/
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 10:23 PM
1

But if they’re weaker they’re less likely to succeed and therefore more likely to hesitate
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 07:20 AM
1

People wildly overestimate how effective exposing hypocrisy is. It happens in politics all the time and seems to have had zero effect
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:46 AM
1

Only if they care what you think. Most red pillers actively spite blue pillers
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:43 AM
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Unironically too
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/03/26 06:41 PM
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So fitter and hotter people getting better matches is “fair”? Polygamy was outlawed for most of that history. The “unfairness” of power was balanced by women’s lack of power. Average men could more easily control powerless women. Powerful men could only choose so many women
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:36 PM
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Finally a step toward a definition of fairness
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:33 PM
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I countered your earlier comment. I’m curious why you made it if the post itself was so sufficient
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:26 PM
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Ok. Why shouldn’t fairness be considered in sexuality then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:16 PM
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Hypothetically, we could partner in exactly the opposite way you think would be best for evolution and just breed “correctly”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 12:04 PM
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That describes all evolution. Cultural and biological. The current “genotype” could fail eventually but is here for now
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:56 AM
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Yes, but it means that mating fairness has been a high priority in the past. (Even if just for men)
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:55 AM
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What does this mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:49 AM
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The ruling class artificially restricted women’s ability to choose partners both directly and indirectly by literally restricting their rights. This increased men’s choosing power, increasing their quality of life. This meant working class men are less likely to revolt
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:48 AM
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There’s no such thing as degradation in evolution. If the environment demands it we will “go back”
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:45 AM
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Women have been very tightly controlled as a means of controlling mens labor and violence for a couple hundred years
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:38 AM
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Try supplying supporting evidence. Here’s some: social services, “it takes a village”, open science, hospitality
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:36 AM
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I think OP forgot that Reddit hates weddings
/r/PurplePillDebate17/03/26 09:51 AM
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There just isn't anything like this replicable for men. What? Why not “withdrawing his consent to raise a nonperson without unique first person conscious experience”? But if a man were to do what's described above, the future person who will come into existence (and the mother) is necessarily harmed. She is free to abort the pregnancy in that case
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates16/03/26 08:41 AM
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So should we judge poor people or not
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:39 PM
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Would you say the same of other causes of harm? Like poverty?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:24 PM
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I don’t follow. If insecure men are feminine, how are secure women not masculine?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:19 PM
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Then there should be no difference in judgement
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:15 PM
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Are emotionally secure women masculine then?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:12 PM
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If the problem is the harm insecure men do, then it’s not the insecurity itself
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 11:09 PM
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A sex worker can refuse a client at any time. A miner is selling his body too. He won’t get paid if he doesn’t use it in the way his boss wants
/r/PurplePillDebate15/03/26 03:41 PM
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Politics are not fully inherited and there’s other ways of reproducing and of course adoption
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:33 PM
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That doesn’t counter my argument
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 07:25 PM
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So you need more evidence to call it unhealthy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 11:33 AM
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People die from healthy things all the time
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:41 AM
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That seems very necessary and healthy
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 06:40 AM
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“All gay men are good at interior design” “Gay men are harmless” “She’s too pretty for a man” “Gay people face so much hardship, they need to be coddled” “I love gay people and their silly little lifestyles”
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:33 PM
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~50% of couples meet on the apps. Hyperbolic arguments can be dismissed just as easily
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 07:09 AM
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A simple search for “benevolent sexism” confirms my claim
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 08:55 AM
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I’m just pointing out there’s a wealth of research into this. It’s not just redditors imagining things
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:58 AM
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Here’s an entire academic book about if you want to read more https://books.google.com/books/about/Chivalry_is_Far_from_Dead.html
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:41 AM
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Dates, my mother, friends. You’re kind of demonstrating benevolent sexism right now by not believing that women would do this
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:39 AM
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I have been shamed for many of these. The “correct” side is closer to the street, it came from when horse excrement/mud was more common. A simple social media search should find many examples
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:26 AM
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Opening doors for women. Pulling out chairs. Giving up your seat to women. Walking on the “correct” side of the sidewalk. Paying for all dates
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 07:08 AM
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Chivalry is misogynistic
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 12:53 AM
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Men are shamed for not being benevolent misogynists
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 12:52 AM
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To those downvoting me, it is useful to know how to counter feminists with their own stated principles. Either they support trans men or they reduce women to baby factories
/r/EverydayMisandry11/03/26 12:49 AM
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Damn thanks for the reading list. Hopefully some of these “feminists” do the reading
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:15 PM
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I don’t understand how that was not a satisfactory answer
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 07:04 PM
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You’re careening towards bio-essentialism. Men should be whatever they want to be
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:58 PM
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I’m shocked so many blue pillers have never heard of benevolent sexism. Maybe they should spend more time researching the things they claim to believe than winning internet points
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:55 PM
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Feminists have been agreeing with OP for years. Also “I like masculinity because I’m straight” is a very weird thing for a feminist to say. Are women who like feminine men defective?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:48 PM
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Trans men can give birth too. Though I should expect it from such misandrists
/r/EverydayMisandry10/03/26 06:43 PM
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I didn’t ask what’s in your pants. But thanks for the non answer
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:40 PM
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They are both at risk of bodily harm. That risk is factored into their wage
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 06:36 PM
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Nature can cause societies which nurture in similar ways
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 10:01 AM
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It’s very very difficult to truly answer nature vs nurture on almost any subject. I just lean nurture to be safe
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:01 AM
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That’s not bias. That’s just low precision
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:51 PM
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That’s circular logic. What is the difference between cis/trans that causes you to lose attention?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:45 PM
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Then what’s the issue?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 06:00 PM
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Your behavior suggests otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:14 AM
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I never said otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:05 AM
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I’m genuinely having difficulty parsing all the strawmen and other fallacies you’re throwing
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:00 AM
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Again, this is not a counter or a contribution. You’re continuing to use the same strawman I warned you against.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:58 AM
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Is he monogamous?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:50 AM
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B wasn’t even more attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:47 AM
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What is this meant to counter? Are you trolling?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:39 AM
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Your original statement was “That isnt homophobia”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:37 AM
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Again, that is not “simply because he’s bi”. This must be bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:36 AM
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“If a woman's attraction to a man disappears simply because he’s bi” does not include “he has poor sexual health”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:34 AM
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It’s also telling you have not responded to this comment https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/wPfQAwZ6lD which makes this whole convo irrelevant
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:18 AM
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You’re strawmanning again. No one said it is on the same level. This is bordering on bad faith
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:13 AM
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A sensible policy would be testing/etc in proportion to risk. Have donors take a survey which screens for many signs of risk. The current policy ignores precautions
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:05 AM
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No one in this entire convo has argued STIs are not more common among queer men. You’re strawmanning and assuming the worst of your opponents
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 08:02 AM
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Yes, bigotry is very often irrational There’s many many examples throughout history
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:54 AM
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They are not saying it isn’t happening, they’re saying the policy is itself homophobic. It’s very telling that you think your opponents have never even heard of this concept
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:52 AM
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If it’s about sexual health then it’s not about bisexuality inherently. Stop contradicting yourself
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 01:31 AM
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Why are you just restating your position?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:50 PM
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That’s not simply due to sexuality. Try again
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:27 PM
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Name a reason a monosexual would not date a bisexual that would not fit my definition
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:13 PM
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Aversion to queerness in any form is definitionally homophobia, regardless of the identity of the perpetrator
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:04 PM
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If there’s no other reason for it then it is definitionally
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 11:01 PM
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In this context it is
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 10:58 PM
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Some social norms are bad
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 08:13 PM
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2.6% of people 25 and up are gig workers. https://www.bls.gov/news.release/conemp.nr0.htm. I think you’re overestimating how many people can earn more than minimum wage
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:58 PM
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Restating your comment is not an argument
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:47 PM
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I don’t understand why you’re making the distinction. Would confident people follow social norms or arrogant people?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:39 PM
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“simply because he’s bi” does not include “not attracted to men”. Read more carefully next time
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:33 PM
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It’s a dealbreaker, not a preference
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/26 06:31 PM
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So women DO have the equipment for it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 10:06 PM
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You’re aware fingers/toys exist?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 05:19 PM
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Note that women victim blame men MORE these days so while the stats may move for the reasons you mentioned I think it may be messy
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 06:06 AM
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Women have actually become MORE likely to victim blame men recently https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34978934/ So it does seem like there’s systemic pressure that could indeed cause this
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 06:04 AM
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There are other forms of coercion than physical. A woman could threaten a man’s livelihood, social standing, loved ones, etc
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/26 05:47 AM
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How is “being overly invested” a “good action”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 08:13 PM
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I wish people were more aware that they’re implying “amazing” is exactly equal to physically attractive
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 07:58 PM
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A miner is selling his body as well. If he does not put it at risk of harm he will be fired
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 06:40 PM
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Is a world just if only part of it is?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 09:55 AM
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Seems like there’s substantial evidence against it https://ouci.dntb.gov.ua/en/works/9QROAMy7/
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:57 AM
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And yet people tend to date within their “league”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:50 AM
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Really? Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:45 AM
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Please help me understand how the leftovers of straight traditional roles still persisting in queer relationships is not a “role to default to”
/r/PurplePillDebate06/03/26 01:42 AM
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Yeah. I always bristle at this. Leadership, stoicism, bravery, protectiveness are all typically masculine social skills
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:59 PM
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Because being approached is not all women want. They want a committed, loving, fulfilling relationship
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:57 PM
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The fact that you’re stretching this to be as enforced as the roles society pushes on straight people should be telling
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:49 PM
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Narratives are often emergent, unconscious, systemic things. Not explicit conspiracies
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:45 PM
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I am queer. It’s simply true that society does not pressure queer people to fit relationship roles as much as straight people
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:41 PM
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Sounds like you agree with “equal social stigma” then. Idk what your problem is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:33 PM
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Read the whole post next time
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:27 PM
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OP’s claim was “men are better at relationships” not “straight men are better at relationships”
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:26 PM
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Bottom/top is about sex, not relationship roles. Don’t act like you know queerness while talking like this. OP is not the subreddit. Stop strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:23 PM
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Moving quickly means you have less time to discern the quality of partner. There is obviously less pressure to fit roles in gay relationships.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 10:20 PM
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In what way does this comment support your core claim?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:39 AM
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In what world is “be attractive” a just world fallacy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 09:38 AM
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Tbf men have higher bias toward women than they do men. So it’s in there either way
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 08:23 AM
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Society is responsible for society. That’s what a society is
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 04:09 AM
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The child would still be 99.9% identical to the sperm she collected requested. Be consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate05/03/26 12:05 AM
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Here’s an example https://www.nytimes.com/1992/03/05/us/doctor-is-found-guilty-in-fertility-case.html I feel like you’re not arguing in good faith
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 11:59 PM
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So you think a woman being artificially inseminated with the “wrong” race is not criminal malpractice?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 10:10 PM
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Are you arguing if evolution is slow enough the Selfish Gene no longer cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 10:01 PM
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Here’s one https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/fo2qZMNV9k
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:20 PM
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I’m frequently shocked by how “progressives” act in ways that would have been called chud behavior even 10 years ago
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:05 PM
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If a doctor artificially inseminates someone with the wrong sperm, that’d be criminal malpractice. Why is this different?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:04 PM
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Why are K-pop stans so weird
/r/EverydayMisandry03/03/26 09:24 PM
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Tbf if I was even 4x less afraid of being raped as the women who repeat that quote claim to be, I’d never date
/r/EverydayMisandry03/03/26 11:31 AM
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Yeah… most people who are struggling with being rich have not yet tried robbing a bank
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:10 PM
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I never made any claim
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:24 AM
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We just assumed that man are more logical. Violence is useful. Your arguments don’t hold
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:12 AM
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They have a reduced bias. An obvious conclusion is that bias toward women is systemic and men resist it somewhat due to their “logical” nature
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 08:05 AM
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It’s been happening for decades. Race, gender, sexuality, identity politics, communism, etc. Feminists are naive to think their movement wouldn’t be co-opted
/r/EverydayMisandry01/03/26 11:25 PM
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It’s a chicken and egg thing. Women largely never develop the skill to estimate that “percentile” so any fledgling attempt will fail which causes them and others to hesitate further
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:22 PM
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Many people think biology is an excuse for racism
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:20 PM
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The important thing is both leftists and the “biology” people are excusing people’s behavior
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 11:19 PM
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Do you think the pool of men who don’t approach prioritize sex more?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:45 PM
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Sounds like they’re prioritizing connection to me
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:41 PM
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14% incarceration is larger than 5% “maybe”. Be consistent
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:32 PM
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I’ll be explicit, is 14% incarceration of green women sufficient to generalize green people
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:26 PM
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Answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:23 PM
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What about 14%?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:17 PM
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Some surely do
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:07 PM
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If 0% of green men commit crimes but 99% of green women do, is that sufficient?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:06 PM
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Some “green” people claim they have urges to commit crimes
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:02 PM
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So when is generalizing green people ok?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 09:00 PM
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But how many green people commit crimes?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:53 PM
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I’ll be explicit. You claim generalizations are fine when 5% of men would abuse children if they could get away with it. You must now provide evidence that <5% of “green” people would commit a crime if they could get away with it
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:51 PM
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That seems contradictory
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:49 PM
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Answer the question
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:45 PM
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Also that article doesn’t even link to the study
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:40 PM
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The article states 5%
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:33 PM
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You also need to provide numbers on “green” people. At what point does it become wrong to make such generalizations?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/26 08:33 PM
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I’ve seen feminists explicitly advocate for reparations. I don’t think they know how racist they sound
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/26 08:14 PM
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What was the point of referencing the video?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/02/26 06:43 AM
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If they were that worried they can just get stronger
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/02/26 06:37 AM
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Standard ≠ preference
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:44 AM
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That actually explained it well thanks
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:37 AM
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From OP’s post sugar dating has always been a place for unattractive men to pay large sums of money in order to compensate for the lack of physical attractiveness
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:35 AM
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Market pressures suggest otherwise
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:31 AM
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If even sugar babies increasingly have these “standards” it means there’s a systemic pressure for it that affects even “normies”
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:13 AM
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That’s why it’s a canary, not the symptom itself
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/26 12:10 AM
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Women openly admitting they want to emotionally abuse men
/r/EverydayMisandry25/02/26 03:26 AM
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Eh, it’s sorta like the opposite of the cheerleader effect
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:41 AM
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I mean women also say dating is broken. I don’t think it truly is broken because as you noted people still use it largely. But I don’t think the popular sentiment is due to supply & demand
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 02:49 AM
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You could just lie about having Instagram. But then again would you want to get with such a woman anyway?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 12:58 AM
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Yes, but it’s at least as much a fetish by this definition as race
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 11:32 PM
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Then the men working there would continue to be violent
/r/EverydayMisandry22/02/26 09:36 PM
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Webster: “an object or bodily part whose real or fantasied presence is psychologically necessary for sexual gratification and that is an object of fixation to the extent that it may interfere with complete sexual expression”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 07:48 PM
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People cannot travel in and out if the 70% is to be maintained
/r/EverydayMisandry22/02/26 07:40 PM
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70% of all workers in the city have to be women. That means law enforcement, sanitation, government, etc. eventually a new “gender” would form
/r/EverydayMisandry22/02/26 12:04 PM
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Anecdotal
/r/PurplePillDebate22/02/26 04:12 AM
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If 70% of people are women, they are going to have the same role in society those violent men do now
/r/EverydayMisandry21/02/26 11:56 PM
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They really think men being more violent is innate not emergent. We’re so cooked
/r/EverydayMisandry21/02/26 11:21 PM
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Chicken or egg?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/02/26 02:39 AM
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I’ll repeat, stopping harm requires understanding the cause. Argue with OP, not me
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/26 08:28 AM
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That’s what OP is arguing yes. What are you getting at
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/26 08:24 AM
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Idk I’m not OP. But generally people care about the causes of things yes
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/26 08:23 AM
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From the post “Feminists say they are for equality and against prejudices, but perpetuate prejudices of certain subsets of men”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/02/26 08:14 AM
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Does that not counter your original comment then? There was clearly no trust built up
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 02:06 AM
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They only studied 2020-2021. It seems very likely we would have returned to normal by now. Do you have evidence the rates have stayed high?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 12:19 AM
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That was not rhetorical
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 12:14 AM
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It’s depressing that this is the only comment I’ve seen addressing this
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/26 12:11 AM
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Convincing argument
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:36 PM
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It couldn’t be that video games are cognitively very expensive, like chess?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:29 PM
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Again, you’re aware men often don’t even realize they were harmed or that they could report, right? And of course people tend not to believe male victims of female perps
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:28 PM
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Men also don’t report violence when the perp is a woman
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:21 PM
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Why do you think that requires more energy?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 08:15 PM
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Curious. Do you have a source for that? What do you think is causing it?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:27 AM
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If they trusted their partner why would they accuse them?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:24 AM
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I’m reminded of the “people think shoplifting is at an all time high, despite evidence” phenomenon. And then when you add the intimacy of dating/etc it’s almost a perfect storm
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:21 AM
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Did they decrease or increasing during isolation?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 09:20 AM
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I found three posts on this sub making the claim. Seems perfectly suitable
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 08:02 PM
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I read a post which argued feminism broadly holds contradictory attitudes about the issue which can make it worse
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/26 07:56 PM
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They never claimed feminism was to blame
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/26 07:53 PM
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Care to explain why?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/02/26 07:45 PM
3

You’re generalizing just like OP is
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:38 AM
0

Alt-right propaganda is amusing?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 10:38 PM
2

It got millions of likes. At that scale intent doesn’t matter
/r/PurplePillDebate16/02/26 07:38 PM
2

Countering an “outlier” with anecdotal evidence. Curious
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 11:09 AM
0

That’s circular logic. This whole convo was about how there’s little evidence to conclude that
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:52 AM
0

Lmao they didn’t even study women. Surely there could be a similar but different hormonal therapy for women?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:50 AM
1

You’re assuming the degree of shame is similar. Perhaps we should study that first
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:45 AM
6

Oh I see. But that only makes it worse
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:35 PM
3

“Ick” implies disgust. Stop conflating it with preference
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:34 PM
2

Personal and electoral politics are not the same. You can want free healthcare and rigid gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:31 PM
7

40% of women have done it
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:28 PM
1

“Ick” implies disgust. “Preference” does not
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:28 PM
13

So rather than reject him for being unattractive they call him disgusting??? Make that make sense
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:27 PM
12

Via enforcing gender roles
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 05:40 PM
9

You’re projecting
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 05:40 PM
3

Just behind their back. A lot of people really underestimate even a weak person's capacity for violence
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 04:32 AM
4

And women could wake up tomorrow and kill at least 25% of men using a kitchen knife
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 12:49 AM
1

You know you can just not right
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 01:05 PM
1

Men are not assigned anything
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 01:05 PM
1

nobody gets locked up without evidence, a report, and an investigation This is a truly wild thing to say in 2026
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 05:11 AM
38

It's pretty telling that most responses to this sort of critique are a hypocritical "you're just making assumptions". We DON'T KNOW. That means BOTH CONCLUSIONS.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/02/26 05:06 AM
1

"Yes, misogyny impacts dating. But your examples weren't dating. they were misogynistic incidents."
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 04:44 AM
1

There’s been a lot of discussion on tiktok recently about the women who do this. Consensus is that the women are seeking validation that all men are like that and they didn’t choose poorly
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 01:15 AM
1

Racism is part of dating risk. Moreso than platonic interaction in many cases. Patriarchy and misogyny are tied up with racism
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 01:08 AM
1

It was platonic but still a cold approach. Men of color are still men
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:24 PM
2

Ok. How about the Central Park birdwatching guy. That was 2020
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 08:23 PM
0

Men risk safety too. Emmett Till
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 04:22 AM
2

It amazes me how flagrantly people ignore rule 11 here
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 03:56 AM
5

You seem unable to steelman
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:53 AM
1

Here’s one from just earlier today https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZThu2vCPW/
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:48 AM
0

You’re still not engaging with the counter though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:45 AM
2

The study mentions humans many many times. I don’t think you read it either
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:44 AM
2

Yet some are, the study acknowledges this yet still detects the phenomenon
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:44 AM
0

Why are you still standing on this “animal” point rather than engaging with the counter?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:31 AM
1

Here’s four examples verbatim from the post you claim to have read. Stop weakmanning Male confidence is framed as a trait, not labor - they're the ones who established that perception Society still expects men to perform stoic confidence while also being emotionally open, self-aware, and egalitarian, without giving them social credit for the strain of holding all that at once Women expect men to be the emotional anchor, the rationalizer, and the stabilizer to boot. Women cast men as emotional in…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 01:30 AM
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As soon as you define rules like this people find ways to manipulate them
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:50 AM
-1

Humans are polygamous. I concede that courtship is rather different than the biological cost of strength though
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:36 AM
11

Because they are just as irrational as women are
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 12:04 AM
6

Read the post next time
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 04:24 AM
7

I dislike the term "human rights". It's a very liberal idea and too often idealist rather than material
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/02/26 03:43 AM
1

There's a difference between obvious homophobia and subtle homophobia. Women are typically more subtle but that can still cause more harm than straight men just calling things "gay"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:56 AM
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If they can't help themselves are they truly evil?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:29 AM
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"All"? Really? Even seahorses, pipefish, snails, jacanas, hyenas, phalaropes, mormon crickets?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:26 AM
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OP only just discovered "nature vs nurture"
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 02:22 AM
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Points B and C are the same. You would appear more intellectually honest if you were up front with how little you’ve thought about this
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 01:52 AM
2

Also, being stereotyped as perps is not the only harm. If the mainstream audience sees a headline like "3% of men are raped" they can easily misunderstand it as "3% of men are sexually assualted" when it could be as high as 17%, depending on definition. This happens for women too, being imprecise with language can be confused as "45% of women are raped" since "sexual violence" for many people means FP and FP only
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 02:53 AM
1

That's fine for academic work. But for public facing language like the headlines produced by this brief, I think being imprecise with language does more harm than good
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 02:48 AM
1

Also they didn't even ask women if they have ever been made to penetrate. I can't imagine why
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 01:58 AM
1

We can do all that by just being more precise with language. If we're discussing how to help victims of MTP we use MTP. When discussing forcibly penetrated victims we can say that. Using the term "rape" when we mean FP just confuses things and causes real harm as u/SomeSugondeseGuy has said.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 01:57 AM
2

The concern is that by making such a distinction there will be a difference in efforts to fight the two “kinds”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/26 01:02 AM
0

I get what you mean but the show at least was written and created by a gay man
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates07/02/26 03:29 AM
1

What else is a lack of empathy?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:54 AM
1

It happens to both genders, yes
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 12:08 AM
1

Here’s an example https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00221-020-05867-y
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 11:11 PM
7

I thought people weren’t supposed to lower their standards?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:06 PM
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It’s not clear if you asked “how much are you physically attracted to me?” or “how conventionally attractive am I?”
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:19 AM
1

Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:20 AM
0

Sampling bias. Or frequency Illusion
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:01 AM
2

The question is whether you can get a partner you want
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 03:00 AM
–

Take the actual survey percentage and add the estimated asymptotic percentage
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 07:04 PM
–

Surely the official stats account for asymptomatic people right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/02/26 03:47 AM
3

That’s your job if you’re gonna comment
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 12:05 PM
1

Did you read the post?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/01/26 11:45 AM
1

Marriage rates dropped ~20%. And people are still finding love today
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 11:14 AM
1

Agreements are meant to go here https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/B3ABSQDlz5
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 07:16 PM
5

It’s the economy, …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:42 AM
1

Most women are better at applying makeup than most men. Clarify your claim
/r/PurplePillDebate26/01/26 01:50 AM
33

You could say the same about any bigot
/r/EverydayMisandry26/01/26 12:05 AM
24

Perhaps he is using 15lbs because he was injured by being too flippant about weightlifting
/r/EverydayMisandry24/01/26 12:27 AM
30

“Is he being rude, or have you been socially conditioned by women being warm, positive and friendly at all times?”
/r/EverydayMisandry22/01/26 01:30 AM
2

That’s not approaching
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 02:03 AM
0

Surely he might feel you were settling then?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:26 AM
13

Many women prefer “benevolent sexism” to real egalitarianism
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:25 AM
1

Why do you assume a man approaching you wants a LTR and not just sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:13 AM
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these same men find it an impossible burden Goomba fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:10 AM
1

Doing things with a goal is a male mindset????
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/26 01:07 AM
76

“Some men think X. Therefore all men deserve body shaming”. Wow
/r/EverydayMisandry19/01/26 07:51 PM
3

Why are you even on this sub?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 07:16 PM
4

So you’re ok with people being racist/sexist/misogynist against fascists?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 07:15 PM
6

I note you didn’t include misandry in that list
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 07:08 PM
5

It is not moral to do fascism because your enemies do. If you can’t understand that you are not a leftist
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 07:02 PM
7

A strawman premise is still a strawman
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:07 PM
9

Stop strawmanning
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:02 PM
12

Literally in the first paragraph of the post. Try reading next time
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:01 PM
-1

OP argued that hookup material means you have a better personality
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 06:00 PM
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Well obviously those women are not “complete disasters of personality”
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:49 PM
0

Goomba fallacy
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/26 03:20 PM
11

Some insults that do all that without body shaming: “your wife doesn’t love you”. “Your fascist friends will throw you under the bus because of your genetic issues”. “Some fascist ideal you are”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/01/26 05:51 AM
3

How is that not change?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:20 PM
3

“you can’t change women”. Why do you think you can change men then?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/01/26 10:10 PM
8

https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/s/o7WDPaVMwy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 03:56 AM
9

Please show me one person who said they’re the same
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 03:52 AM
10

Stop strawmanning
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/26 03:48 AM
5

Which is why I said “start here”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 11:40 PM
11

Did you even read the abstract? women's automatic in-group bias is remarkably stronger than men's And it shows ways to measure in-group bias, which was the comment I replied to
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 11:28 PM
31

You’d rather enforce gender roles than keep them from going right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 11:19 PM
1

Severe outcomes like becoming a fascist out of insecurity
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 11:17 PM
3

Would it hurt to just admit you worded things poorly?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 11:15 PM
9

You can start here https://psycnet.apa.org/fulltext/2004-19340-007.html
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 11:08 PM
19

“You have the very traits you look down upon” ≠ “haha, you’re short”
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 11:06 PM
15

I see most women mocking MAGA women mocking their makeup/surgeries/fashion. Not innate features. I don’t think they’re comparable
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 11:05 PM
7

Is that not further entrenching that social power? If you threaten their place in hierarchy they may concede… or they may double down. The whole appeal of fascism is that it promises power
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 11:04 PM
4

I assume you meant objective?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 10:54 PM
20

I think you are in the wrong subreddit
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 09:34 PM
8

Helping fascists is trivial?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 09:15 PM
24

So they don’t actually care about the victims of ICE?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/01/26 09:13 PM
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it’s OK to be rejected, it’s okay to be scared, it’s okay to be hurt, it’s OK to be vulnerable be a man Curious
/r/PurplePillDebate17/01/26 03:45 PM
45

Wherever this comes up I never see the feminists considering if women even like men either
/r/EverydayMisandry15/01/26 10:21 PM
4

I’m not making a claim. I’m pointing out that it seems like you didn’t read OP’s post fully
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:50 AM
1

Why do you think OP doesn’t mean “you can manufacture tingles”?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:48 AM
2

If all men “learn social skills” then OP argued women will still only be attracted to the top-tier men
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 05:46 AM
2

Seems you don’t know what “inherent” means
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:58 AM
5

He said “no value in society”. That could easily mean “society does not inherently value men”. Learn how to steelman
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 04:54 AM
3

This is not a question
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 02:47 AM
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No. Just not as attracted to
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 07:42 PM
1

It’s not allowed on this sub
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 04:48 AM
-1

You missed the “99%” sentence
/r/PurplePillDebate14/01/26 12:42 AM
-2

He never implied that
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 10:17 PM
-1

We can do both
/r/PurplePillDebate13/01/26 01:31 AM
1

Where’s the question in this Q4W post?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:10 PM
2

Many people do things that don’t work. Isn’t that what y’all say about TRP?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/01/26 08:04 PM
1

Top tier ragebait if true
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:17 PM
2

“Here’s some recipes for bean soup” “What if I don’t like beans”
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 11:14 PM
15

Have you looked for them? Tiktok will show you stuff you’ll engage with. So it basically ragebaits men with women being angry. I imagine it shows angry men to women
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:56 PM
1

Why do you say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 07:35 PM
2

The hypothetical in the study was “there wouldn’t be any consequences for the participants”. Consequences for the victim were unspecified. Though I think most readers are not that discerning I wish they listed all the questions they used
/r/PurplePillDebate10/01/26 05:37 AM
2

Sampling bias. Frequency illusion
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:38 PM
1

I’m saying your example doesn’t apply
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 10:31 PM
1

The hypothetical in the study was “there wouldn’t be any consequences for the participants”. Consequences for the victim were unspecified
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 09:23 PM
2

Even the “30% of men would rape if…” is technically incorrect. If most said “slightly unlikely” then at the very most we can only say 15% and probably even less that that if “slightly unlikely” is closer to 30% than 45%
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:16 PM
1

If the husband would never know how would it destroy his life?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:07 PM
1

The number doesn’t matter for this hypothetical. Only whether someone would think it possibly could happen someday
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/26 08:05 PM
0

Moving the goalposts
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:11 PM
1

Any competent coach would tell athletes to do what works best for them. A heavy weight coach would not do the same moves he coaches a lightweight to use
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:07 PM
2

Individual sports like tennis/golf/martial arts
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 10:02 PM
3

Many do
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 09:56 PM
1

Coaches don’t play
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 08:29 PM
1

Did you read the post? He does exercise
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/26 03:32 AM
3

Because it means other people will pay taxes for you to feel affirmed
/r/PurplePillDebate07/01/26 07:16 PM
1

Of course they do. Women value women for their looks/body/youth
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 06:28 PM
6

Objectification can happen even at that point
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 02:36 AM
3

Comments agreeing with OP are supposed to reply to this comment https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/8FZcMFbsRr
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:53 AM
3

You’re bean souping
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:46 AM
4

Also, comments agreeing with OP are supposed to reply to this comment https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/s/8FZcMFbsRr
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:43 AM
5

Then it’s not the bisexuality, it’s a lack of trust in your partner. Everyone should be getting tested and using protection. Flat out rejecting all people of a demographic is bigoted. Straight up
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:39 AM
3

Why are you acting like reaching home base once is the only thing these men care about
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:21 AM
15

To be clear, you’re saying you see men here valuing women only for their income/etc?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/26 01:19 AM
2

Flirting is a petty reliable indicator of attraction for most women Source?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 08:48 PM
1

What does this even mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/01/26 12:20 AM
-10

The logic goes both ways. Why does her personal life matter when discussing her work?
/r/EverydayMisandry04/01/26 09:28 PM
3

So you’d be fine with a man just never telling his female partner he’s bi then?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 09:27 PM
-9

James Watson was a bigot but we can’t ignore the contributions he made to science. Why should this be different?
/r/EverydayMisandry04/01/26 08:53 PM
4

If a woman who likes brown eyes and green eyes is with me I’m not going to be insecure because she chose me. That’s how relationships work. There’s always someone out there who can provide something I don’t
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/26 08:51 PM
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