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When I was a teenager I had awful shoulder length hair that just didn't fit my face at all, but I was into that kind of music and always thought I looked dumb with short hair. My face is quite angular and I look weird with it. I cut my hair and suddenly I looked much much better, and since then I've figured out a style that compliments my face much better. Also sorted out my style over the past four years or so and have a pretty cool look going on now, that fits my personality much more. I used …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 11:57 PM
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Honestly, if these people are really so smart they would figure out how to talk to and be attractive to women. They might also realise that it's stupid to complain about not getting laid if you aren't even seriously trying. They don't get laid because they don't try and they don't have any balls, but if they did their intelligence would be an advantage. If you've already fucked up by not taking care of yourself then it doesn't matter how smart you are because the women are already turned off. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 05:46 PM
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The people I found to have the most beautiful personalities were authentic; they told it like it was. They might have been seen as bitches or assholes, but they were respected and admired. Respect is important. It keeps people from dehumanizing you and treating you like a piece of shit. If people respect you, they'll be civil to you, even as an enemy. Likability is also important, but a guy can be well-liked and not respected: witness the school class clown. Well this isn't exactly what I meant …
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 01:21 AM
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Well what do you want, to be more attractive or just be more likable? How athletic you are doesn't matter that much really, it's more that people generally assume you're 'edgy' rather than creepy, but if you're okay looking than attitude matters much more. You kind of just have to be prepared that not everyone is going to like you, and maybe some people will find you uncomfortable to be around, that's unavoidable but they won't really care if you aren't trying too hard to get them to like you. A…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 12:44 AM
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Then just stop trying. This is obviously not so easy to understand how to do because you can't try to stop trying, you just have to understand why you can't give a shit and I mean why you really can't afford to give a shit. Yes, people will like you much more when you stop putting on a show (a bad one) so much, but more importantly, there's almost no point in talking to anyone if you're not going to do it from a place of authenticity. Tbh, I used to try way too hard and soon just got exhausted a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 11:57 PM
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Honestly if you're ugly then there's nothing much you can do, girls are gonna think you're a creep. Best think if you are autistic is to just accept that you aren't a good actor and learn not to care if people think you're creepy. People will think you're less creepy if you do that anyway, it makes people uncomfortable when you try to blend in so hard. If you're good-looking you can go from being creepy to edgy, try and work on that. Be in decent shape and have great style before complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/16 11:41 PM
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It's very common and correct to say that there's a tendency within a group to act in a certain way. The fact that you replied in a way that suggests that you completely misunderstood that point (when you said 'a percentage of' to correct me) makes me think that you do struggle to understand English. I hope everything was clear for you in that paragraph. Honestly, I would just cut your losses at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:18 PM
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But is my English wrong?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 10:09 PM
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"The purpose of this video is not to scare you" plays 28 Days Later theme
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 07:57 PM
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I am literally saying that women as a whole, as a collective, have a tendency towards this thing. Unless you're retarded and genuinely think that because I don't agree with you it must be my English that's at fault, you've clearly made a stupid and are now just digging yourself further into an embarrassing hole.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 12:51 PM
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Yes, women as a whole are inclined towards playing the victim. The problem here really isn't my English, you just disagree, and of course you're wrong to do that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/10/16 08:53 AM
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Do you know what the word 'tend to' means?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/10/16 09:16 AM
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Nope, not at all. Domination is one thing, but causing pain or engaging in rape fantasies is not something I'm into at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 06:03 PM
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Fuk u, stupid dik/
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 04:04 PM
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Yeah you're probably right.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 01:08 PM
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Well I'm not a psychiatrist so take what I say with a fistful of salt. Psychopathy has strong connotations, but does it necessarily have to be that strong? I'm not saying that women are psychopaths for doing this, but that it is a slightly psychopathic thing to do. It's seeking out an emotional lift from making another person feel bad, and while women will deny that it's really about that, I beg to differ. It's not coincidental, the idea is to absolutely make the other person feel worse, not so …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 11:45 AM
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Women tend to naturally pursue victimhood status and want it to be validated. The last thing they want is for whatever problem to be solved because then they wouldn't get to relish the feeling of being a victim.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 11:24 AM
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Because it's in high demand. Toilet paper is less valuable than a Ferrari but people still gotta wipe their butts.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/16 10:58 AM
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But we're talking about some kind of civil war, and that could very quickly and easily be put down. The US isn't the UK.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 09:57 PM
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Eh not really. When London had the riots there was chaos sure, but the Police were relatively restrained. There's nothing internal that the army couldn't handle at a last resort.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 09:19 PM
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But if they're trying to find a solution then surely by doing that they're acknowledging your feelings, and surely them feeling your pain would push them to look for a solution. If a man doesn't try to help you find a solution then it's obvious that he doesn't care or feel your pain, because that's how men deal with their problems (most men). Wanting your partner to feel your suffering, but not wanting them to find a solution to that suffering seems kind of psychopathic to me.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 07:46 PM
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I meant to point out that civility is fickle and with the right underlying conditions a spark can set off a chain reaction. Yeah but from a specific group of poor, young, stupid people.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 04:29 PM
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That doesn't mean her SMV is high though, it just means that the SMV of women is relatively low compared to the SMV of the most attractive men. Not sure if you disagree with that or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 11:24 AM
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Depends what you mean by making it big. If you're well-known in a relatively small scene you'll still have an enormous edge and find it easy to get laid. Simply being good at what you play and demonstrating it in a live or studio setting is enough for gain a serious edge too, so imagine being a person who has 'fans'. Sure, maybe you only have a few thousand but that's a few thousand people that you don't know, that think you're the shit. That's pretty impressive to a lot of women.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/16 11:06 AM
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Why is civil war unimaginable? For me. I mean I literally struggle to imagine it. We've already seen large scale riots in london These had nothing to do with Islam or minorities though really, it was just dumb, poor, man-dem kids wanting to start some shit, and they stopped rioting when it started raining because they didn't want to get wet. There were plenty of white people doing it too, they just were a minority because... well they're less represented in the poor, dumb, mandem youth. What hap…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 11:38 PM
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What men want in return is sexual validation This is what I said, I didn't say sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 04:45 PM
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Um, what? Men only want sex? Um, nope, never said that.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 04:30 PM
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I'm not fantasizing about being the bread winner and constantly protecting her and ensuring her survival, though. So if you meant provider in that sense, I disagree. I don't think that this is the appeal for the majority of men as well. That's one way of providing, but it's not what I mean. It's part of what I mean, but different men have different ways of providing. Provision can come from any kind of value. It could be emotional depth, good sex, intellectual depth, physical resources, status e…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 11:14 AM
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You pick up on non-verbal cues extremely quickly and most rapists do look for a chance to further test their victims for submissive behaviour. These men don't just stand around waiting to make a snap decision about who to rape, they specifically vet their victims for submissiveness, and even before that they will have ample chance to intuitively pick up on the confidence of the potential victim. Muggers and thieves etc. do look at clothing choice because it's often an indicator of wealth, but ev…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/16 10:45 AM
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Briffault's law basically states that women only associate with men when some kind of practical benefit is in play. Therefore, it is basically saying that women do not value or desire intimate emotional/romantic connections with men. In other words, they won't be with a man because they just like him for who he is. Or in the very least, women value intimate chemistry to such a lesser degree that it is irrelevant to their decisions. Does it not follow, then, that women are sociopaths? After all, …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 10:52 PM
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I've done worse things than groping random women without invitation Really? We've just talked about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:44 PM
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Non-verbal cues are a much better indicator of submissiveness than clothing choices. The study you linked showed people identifying women wearing modest clothing as submissive, but that was only based on photos, it's not really evidence. I don't believe that wearing modest clothing makes you more of a target, and there's no evidence that it actually does. What makes you a target is demonstrating submissive behaviour, which we all intuitively pick up on.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:43 PM
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Sure, he probably isn't particular sensitive to how they feel. Two reasons, first being that he is arrogant and generally self-centered, and the second being that the vast majority of them are okay with it, nothing to do with entitlement. I don't think it's a particularly big deal. I think you're immediately assuming that he's forcefully groping women in an very aggressive way, because that fits your preferred image of Trump. I don't think he would have bragged about it if he literally went arou…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:36 PM
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Sure but the women who are likely to be hanging around Trump and talking to him are likely to want that. Presumably they're young and pretty, so are we going to assume that they're looking to network or discuss business with Donald? Maybe, fuck it, why not, but they'd be a small minority and would presumably give off that vibe. Young, hot women look for rich and famous guys and practically throw themselves at them. They are everywhere, and there's a limitless supply for rich and famous guys, whi…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:24 PM
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I was arguing against the idea that clothing is a significant factor at all in a man's decision to rape. I asked for evidence that rapists specifically look for women wearing modest clothing, as opposed to more submissive women in general. Your link doesn't provide any evidence for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 09:01 PM
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Sure, but I'm not arguing against that.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 08:56 PM
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My point is that the clothing isn't a significant factor in the rapist's decision, modest clothing just correlates with submissiveness. There's no serious evidence in the study that was linked to say that the clothing itself is a significant factor. It even contradicts that point several times.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 08:52 PM
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Uh nope. You have no idea how women behave around rich and famous men. Lots of them literally want him to do it, or will at least let him do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 08:28 PM
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Sure, but there are more tells as to whether someone is confident than their clothes, people can tell intuitively, and often confident women wear more modest clothing, and some women who aren't confident wear revealing clothing. The clothes themselves don't say anything, it's just that generally less confident women will happen to be wearing more modest clothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 08:27 PM
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Women are way more likely to get raped when they are dressed modestly, because revealing clothes show confidence and rapists go for easy victims with little self esteem. Got any evidence for that? I don't doubt it, but I think it has less to do with the clothes displaying confidence, and more the fact that women who lack confidence are unlikely to wear revealing clothing anyway. I think choice of clothing here is largely irrelevant.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 08:06 PM
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Slightly, but a hardly significant difference at all. There's still no indication of entitlement here at all.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 08:02 PM
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Frankly I have no idea what will happen or when it will happen or if anything will happen at all. I find it difficult to imagine apartheid in Europe, I just think it won't be accepted by most people, who would rather move to a whiter country or just suffer within it. Literally no idea, the prospect of some kind of civil war or apartheid just seems unimaginable but surely eventually shit is going to hit the fan. I suspect it will begin in France if anything does happen.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 07:06 PM
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And their replacements are third world kids with IQs of around 70-80. Sounds great.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 06:32 PM
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I think this is an interesting point. I think your opinion is boring and ill-conceived here, but the point is interesting. This kind of individualistic and entitled thinking is really new, and people are willingly accepting it being taught to them from an early age, because it sounds appealing. It's pretty much nonsense though, because we absolutely have a duty to society in many other ways too, and we don't really dispute that. Really, if our societies were much smaller people would understand …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 06:29 PM
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But can you ever imagine him apologising for something, or stating that he was wrong about something? The only time he would ever do this would be when he believed that it benefited him. Additionally, he has infamously stated that once you're wealthy and powerful you can just treat women however you feel like it and there will be no consequences. But this has little to nothing to do with entitlement. He rarely apologises or admits that he was wrong because he's arrogant and stubborn, not because…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 06:17 PM
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Well Asians are a fair bit smarter than other people anyway. I know an amazing female mathematician, ridiculously smart, I know they exist, but at the top end of the IQ scale women are represented very thinly and most women, even smart women, aren't interested in maths. Women who actually like maths and are smart don't struggle, they don't care, because they just like doing maths. Personally, I don't care for teenage fragility and teenage level anything. I think if your performance is that easil…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 10:45 AM
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I didn't say all though, and men could easily create artificial wombs in the time before they all died out anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 10:26 AM
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You're having a hissy fit and you're telling me to calm down? I told you to look at your post history because it's half-filled with pure vitriol and rage. I'm perfectly calm, you are screaming. You're the one telling me that I can't tell you that your experience didn't happen. When I respond that I'm not telling you that, you scream that this isn't what you're talking about anyway. I can only assume that you think all women have the same experience as you because you started going on about how I…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 10:25 AM
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Thank god somebody said it. Men are assumed to be entitled because the women are doing more housework, but has anyone actually asked the men if they even care if they do that? Are we seriously assuming that so many men are demanding that their partners do all this housework while also working full time so that they can sit around on their butts all day? Ha, not in this world. Women begrudgingly accept the bulk of the housework because they know that men don't give a shit, and that they themselve…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/10/16 12:00 AM
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But that isn't the top level, no one is making any significant progress for society at that level.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 11:54 PM
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Which civilization would do better, one in which all men over eighteen suddenly dropped dead, or one in which all women over eighteen suddenly died?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 11:52 PM
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Right, but I never said that the things that have personally happened to you didn't happen to you. Where are you getting that from? You will have to quote me where I say that these things haven't happened to you. I have very little interest in your experience, sorry, you represent the minority of women that self-identify as feminists and froth at the mouth over pretty much everything online, with very little sense or civility behind it. I might be a dick, but I'm tactful at least. This thread is…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/10/16 11:18 PM
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I am kind. I give to charity, don't eat meat, am friendly to people, try not to let girls catch me looking at their tits etc. I'm sure we could delve into your life and make lists of things that you do and have done that make you a shitty person too. Could be a fun exercise actually, why don't you do that before you start insisting that other people are bad because they don't agree with ridiculous feminist rules for morality. You won't, obviously you won't. If you did you'd probably think twice …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 08:25 AM
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Yep, that's an opinion hon. I'm allowed to say an opinion You assumed I was giving my opinion as fact, because you assume that's how all men think, because you're that sexist. I'm also allowed to give my opinion, FYI. Again, PLEASE show me where I'm speaking for all woman. I would love to see it. That whole paragraph is about MY EXPERIENCE. If you are still confused, please re-read my original comment and realize I said nothing about other woman at all. It's all talking about what has happened t…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/16 08:16 AM
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She's not an uptight. feminist lunatic so I doubt she'd care.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:08 PM
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You expressed an opinion about why men might act the way they do, implying that you have some kind of insight into the minds of men. Since you don't have any experience of being a man, take your own advice and sit down. Your experience is one experience, you don't speak for all women, and just because I'm not a woman doesn't mean I don't understand anything related to women. Might as well shut this sub down if we aren't allowed to talk about things we haven't experienced, like being any other pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/16 11:07 PM
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Most men are not alpha guys and are not going to be seen as such. Might as well learn to be a better beta, as TRP teaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 01:33 PM
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Not really. You're too hung up on the idea of usefulness in relationships to get it. Something being useful isn't defined by how long it lasts. It can be useful for the present moment, or for several years, or for a life-time.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 01:31 PM
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Something long-term, such as a whole life, is much harder to perceive that way, due to how irrational human brain is Maybe you struggle with it, but I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 01:29 PM
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It is true. I've literally been covered toes to neck in loose poofy dresses and still been sexualized and cat called. Yeah but it's not going to happen as much if you're wearing hot-pants and a low-cut top. No one is saying that it doesn't happen, no one is trying to convince you that it doesn't happen. I'm not saying it sucks. I'm saying if it's gonna happen anyway, why bother trying to cover myself up? By covering myself up to that level would make me seem strange, prudish, unfeminine, and slo…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 01:26 PM
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Too bad I do. If I didn't I doubt I be able to counter your uh argument. You literally just said 'no', that's not an argument. Even tho they are not. Even the highly edited feminist video you cited showed non poor people harassing the woman. So much for that. And you seem to not get how one can be intelligent and have poor social skills, you should look that up. Highly edited to make it seem like a more specific group of men do it...? Lmao what?? So there were apparently 100+ incidents and they …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 01:21 PM
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Yeah fully equipped, I bet. I can do it, I just don't really care that much. Doesn't mean I'm going to stare at girls' tits when they're looking at me, but I'll happily glance for a less than respectful amount of time if I'm not directly in their line of vision.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 01:13 PM
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I think it has to do with how you look more vulnerable and weak when you're more covered up, so men think they can get away with it. In my shorts and tiny top I look like a woman not to be fucked with. It's really weird that you're trying to tell men what they've experienced. This is such classic woman-splaining, it's so hilarious. Ooh I can do it too, fun! I can 100% assure you I get catcalled and ogled at about 3x more when I am in my "office lady" clothes. Probably because you don't actually …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/10/16 01:10 PM
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If you consider marriage an ultimate goal and LTRs a means of achieving that goal, then college relationships are useless again. Most people don't consider that as the goal, at least not as the only goal. I don't intend for my relationships to last forever. I mean we all die in the end so all relationships are useless, fuck it, why not?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 10:07 PM
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The problem is, by the time you cover all up so that your not getting unwanted male attention, your wearing a burka. But that's not true, so why say it? If men are gonna sexualize you in jeans and a T shirt, there's no point in trying to cover it up when your gonna be losing social points for anything more than that. Yes, it happens, but it happens a lot less than if you're showing off loads of cleavage and are wearing tight hot-pants. Some things just suck and there's nothing you can do but lea…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 10:02 PM
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I completely agree. Any mature person would realise that if you want to look sexually attractive which is why every woman wears make-up and sexy clothes then you're going to get people responding to the fact that you look sexually attractive, and are specifically trying to emphasise the things that make you sexually attractive. You might not be trying to impress men, but you're specifically trying to look more sexually attractive, and who exactly do you think is going to respond to that? Are yog…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 09:48 PM
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If I just wanted male attention I wouldn't bother with expensive clothes, I would just walk around naked. Except you wouldn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 09:38 PM
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Men are perpetually thirsty, it has nothing to do with how much sex you can get. There's no limit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 09:35 PM
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I've been on this earth far too long and way too wonderfully sexually active in my life to have zero ideas about male sexuality and women's affect on it Ever spent a minute as a man with a male sex drive. No? Okay.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 09:32 PM
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Probably because you're standing out, or maybe it was just a joke. Of course there's a relationship between what you wear and how often you're going to get cat-called. If you have a nice ass and you're wearing something tight then guys are going to be more drawn to it than if you cover it up. I'm not saying it doesn't happen as much as it does to ordinarily-dressed women, but I see guys catcalling girls in tight/revealing clothes far more than the former.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 09:28 PM
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Reality says otherwise. More so if it was easy to tell who would be abusive there be educational programs about it. And no abusiveness doesn't nearly overlap with sexually attractive traits. And no unintelligent/poor people don't make up those most likely to harass. You don't have an argument here, you're just saying 'no'. Poor people are way more likely to harass women. Remember that video of the woman walking around being cat-called? Why do you think it was only filmed in areas with lots of po…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 12:26 PM
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Because people don't separate their own tastes with general observation. 1-10 is about trying to be as objective as possible, not just how much you want to have sex with someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 11:42 AM
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Its really not specific actually. It really is. You can tell who's likely to be abusive relatively easily, but unfortunately abusiveness often overlaps with sexually attractive traits. In terms of harassment, it's mostly unintelligent/poor people. Probably more than you think. Very very few. I mean people so often think its the poor that often do drugs but its often the rich that do drugs. Drugs don't have a direct victim, sexual abuse does. Meaningless comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 11:41 AM
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Relationships are a part of sex. They exist firmly within the contexts of sex. People have different ways of pursuing their sexual imperative, and they're all equally valid. I'd rather have sex with an intelligent 7 than a stupid 9, and I mean that. Why? Well because people want intelligent kids and our sexuality reflects that. Different people have different priorities. Value is relative, and if a hot girl has no value to offer me then her SMV really isn't that high. If she's going to give me a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/10/16 11:39 AM
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It doesn't fit my logic at all. You can't take a two stage process and reverse the stages and say that follows the same logic. It does follow the same fundamental logic. Both men and women have value and use their value in order to obtain value from the other person, they just go about it in different ways. If you're saying that a man's SMV is reflective of his success in the pursuit of his sexual imperative, then there's no reason why you shouldn't say the same about women, none at all. A woman…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 09:13 PM
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Not really. Generally people can agree on a person's rough number. It's incredibly unlikely that you'll end up with such a wide difference between two significant groups of people, and you can usually lend a more objective eye to it. For example, I may feel little attraction to a 9, but I can still accept that she looks like a 9. If it weren't useful people wouldn't use it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 05:59 PM
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I never said it was a good idea, because I think your system is faulty in and of itself, but by your logic it would work. It may be more difficult, but it still fits your logic. You can generally get an idea of a man's SMV by his looks, his clothes, how he holds himself, how he speaks etc. It's very easy to get a good measure of it from first impressions, and women do it all the time. So why not? Maybe you have a girl who's a 9 but can only get commitment from guys who are 7's because she's tras…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 05:56 PM
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By that logic Hugh Hefner is a 10, but he isn't, is he? And you could insert any example of ugly (or average), old guys who can still have sex with hot girls just because they're rich and famous, or have some kind of leverage. You'll say something about money I'm sure, but this isn't prostitution, these are aspects of a man's SMV that matter and count. You could just as easily say that a woman's SMV should be based relative to what kind of SMV man she can get to commit. Why not? This system woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 04:06 PM
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From cheating, rape, harassment, domestic violence, etc. This isn't unique to just women, but you have to be naive as hell to think men aren't cruel to women. The big difference being that it's quite a specific group of men that rape, harass, and physically abuse their partners, and a relatively small group too. Girls are kidding themselves if they think this is a general 'men' thing, as opposed to that specific group. I mean, how many nice middle-class boys would ever do any of these things? So…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 12:19 PM
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Sure but the 1-10 scale is still about looks otherwise it's just a meaningless point-scoring system. It was created so that people could describe roughly how attractive that person is. Now obviously there's plenty of room for subjectivity, but it's primarily about that, or at least how much 'sex appeal' a person has. It's meaningless if you can be a 5 one day but then become a 9 just because you had sex with an attractive person. In that case no one has any idea of what you might actually look l…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/10/16 12:14 PM
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Eh I disagree with this, I think it makes the 0-10 scale too confusing and less meaningful. I think it's more about looks, or at the least sex appeal, because a girl who's a 7 but has a really great personality could easily interest 8's and 9's, so on. Similarly, there are guys who are not that good looking that still manage to get more attractive girls, maybe because they're more persistent in their general pursuit of sex, or because they have something else that interests the girl. The 1-10 sc…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/16 06:47 PM
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That's an extremely exaggerated stereotype that applies to face to face conversations, not to online text. If you were being sarcastic or whatever, then you can just say that's what you were doing, instead of saying such an unbelievably ignorant thing. Just take all of your preconceptions and throw them away. You would never have had any idea that I was autistic if I hadn't said, so trying to pinpoint where I'm sperging out in every thread is going to be reaaally annoying. BTW, I don't know if y…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 10:19 PM
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You know that's not how it works right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 10:04 PM
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You're joking right?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 10:03 PM
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lmao you do this in most threads you post in.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 09:54 PM
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it makes things like sacrifice and compromise unappealing because why should we? why should we try to compromise and listen to our partners when we can just get another one? There are a lot of good reasons why we should, it's just that we live in a culture that doesn't really promote those values so a significant number of people don't have them. Most people aren't really nihilists, they just don't really think about this stuff well. Besides, we're still social creatures and we naturally want to…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/10/16 09:38 PM
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How is being dominant and rough the same as treating a person like a fleshlight?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/16 09:07 AM
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No, it doesn't 'literally' mean that. More importantly though, women don't want that. They want to be pleasured themselves. What's the point of having sex with him if he's going to treat her like a fleshlight? They're not going to enjoy it, so yeah it's very important that the guy sees her as more than just a 'piece of meat'. What's your obsession with the supply closet? Having sex with someone in secret in a public place isn't the same as treating them like a piece of meat.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 07:45 PM
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Asking to be fucked in the closet isn't being treated like a piece of meat? 'She' is asking to be fucked in the closet so that they don't get caught, it has nothing to do with being treated like a fleshlight or 'piece of meat'. Your misunderstanding the point. Women claim they need these requirements of kindness and generosity to be sexually attracted to a man. This is the fallacy here. Nope, your point was that women love being 'treated like pieces of meat' by sexually attractive men, it's righ…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 06:11 PM
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Women are sexually attracted to attractive men, what a surprise. Nothing in your post says that women want to be treated like 'pieces of meat' by attractive men, it simply says that they want to have sex with attractive men. This isn't some kind of special revelation you've had.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/16 05:53 PM
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People who want to 'wingman' you are usually just saying that because they want to cockblock you and they want to feel like they have an abundance mentality and make you feel that they do too. Either they simply act like a complete moron with no self-awareness or they deliberately try and put you in an embarrassing, awkward situation with a girl that makes you look bad and seem like you need someone to hold your hand. And do you think any girl actually believes you when you say that your friend …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 07:57 PM
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Talk to anyone who's ever been successful at anything and you'll find that they've failed in the pursuit of it countless times.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 07:42 PM
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Rather, their feelings tell them being a bimbo or criminal is bad, because of their conditioning, and so they do not act like bimbos or criminals. Social factors, genetic factors... many many reasons why. I don't believe that we are all inherently criminal unless we can suppress it whatsoever. This will be a boring discussion for as long as you continue to assume without evidence that this is the case. With intelligent people, they have both at play more, their conditioning, as well as their own…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/09/16 10:39 AM
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I said more than two or three times a week, so not two. So no, those were not my words.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 04:32 PM
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Err, no I didn't say that, but if you're jacking off everyday then you've got a problem, even if it is just a small problem. Every other day is probably not an issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 01:58 PM
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Dat whining tho. Dude I'm 5'9 and I can get laid, and I barely ever leave my bedroom. I'm sure you'll manage.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 11:37 AM
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My issue is that dumber people tend to have less reason to not focus on short term benefits and gain. Do you disagree? No, but not all dumb women are bimbos, and not all dumb men are violent criminals. Similarly, there are intelligent women that are also slutty and bimbo-like, and there are intelligent men that are violent criminals. You're right about that last point but you're assuming that this results in a specific behaviour, like being slutty or violent. Now you might be right most of the t…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 11:15 AM
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Then why not focus that energy into becoming more attractive? Yeah, because it's easier to just jack off. You get stimulated by the thought of attractive women and you jack off because you're addicted to the dopamine rush, and it's way more comfortable to have that rush than it is to deal with that as nature intended.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 11:12 AM
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No it's not, it's called having an addiction. Most people have a 'high sex drive', it's called being alive. If you can't go on without satiating that drive every single day then you're addicted. It's meant to be used so you can go out and have sex with women whenever you get horny.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 10:57 AM
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they'd still be handsome and charismatic; even with just a little effort, they'd do just fine. they don't actually fuck every single woman that wants them anyway, so that's not really relevant. Yes, they would do 'just fine', but 'just fine' isn't close to what they have now. right, i already said that not every woman would be into a shorter guy. please read my first comment; i covered this. also, i doubt at just 5'9" you're actually invisible for it. that's not really short. I never said I was …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 10:55 AM
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But that wouldn't change by adding 3 inches to your height. If you want to get with the top 20% of women, you need to be the top 20% of men, which involves some height but also ripped abs, great hair, straight white teeth, and an attractive face. All of which I have and more, minus the perfect white teeth but I'm British so I get a pass. I can occasionally dip into the top 20% and have, but most girls have their sights set on the 6ft+ crowd. The only success I've had with the top 20% has come fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/16 10:47 AM
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those people would be attractive with or without their fame, though. They'd be attractive, but they wouldn't be even nearly as attractive as they are now. They wouldn't have almost every girl wanting to be with them, not even close. Anyone who's spent any time actually observing the world can tell you that. Just because you would find him very attractive doesn't mean that he would actually be very attractive to the top bunch of women. I mean, I'm not as good-looking as Zac Efron, or as charming,…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:57 PM
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Anyone who doesn't think that excessive masturbation (more than two or three times a week) is healthy for men is simply in denial. I did nofap for almost two months just to see what it was all about and honestly, I felt a lot more alive than I did before. It was good. Now I jack off two or three times a day and frankly I don't feel that good. I never got laid and it never even pushed me to talk to random girls, but I generally felt more focused. And yes, the orgasm when you do finally blow a loa…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:48 PM
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Zac Efron is 5'8 though, not 5'3. He's also a famous actor, which is an astronomical boost for him, same with all the other famous people you mentioned. 5'8 is a bit below average but it's not small. Are there any girls who seriously drool over guys who are 5'3? Maybe in photos and on videos where height isn't as easily noticed, but not in real life. On the other hand, there are plenty of girls with small tits that guys go crazy over. There are popular NSFW subreddits dedicated to girls with sma…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 11:44 PM
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But there's still a large difference between introverted people and extroverted people, and the difference between men and women is much much greater. Just because women are still 'regular people' doesn't mean that there aren't extremely significant differences. Just saying 'women are people' doesn't prove TRP is wrong. Of course they're 'regular people', they're the majority of the population.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 10:05 PM
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We're more promiscuous than you think. It's fun because we're so ashamed and hush hush about it here. Sex just isn't fun when everyone's all open about it and trying to 'normalize' it.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 09:28 PM
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Well I disagree, I don't think that more primitive behaviour is somehow more natural than more civilized behaviour. To put it simpler, the stupider someone is and less shame/fear they have, the more they will act in line with their nature. Shame and fear are a part of our nature and can be understood firmly within the context of the discussion about sexual psychology. Bimbos aren't acting any more 'naturally' than more intelligent women, they just have different goals. The fundamental drives rem…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 09:22 PM
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But for the man the grass actually is greener most of the time, especially if he isn't getting any sex. If the woman really thought she had a better option she would take it. Men don't always do that, in fact it's very common for them to stick with the woman even if it's a bad deal for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 05:03 PM
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And she could have gone with Luke from down the road who brewed a better cup of tea than you and has a start-up now and probably wouldn't treat her like this, hmph! Apparently his wife gets amazing back rubs and dinner dates weekly! :P Then why didn't she? She didn't sacrifice anything, she picked what she perceived to be her best option and she got it wrong. If she thought he was a better option she would have gone with him in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 04:54 PM
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Divorce rape is pretty widely understood in mainstream society. I mean, the entire premise of one of the most popular television shows of all time, Two and a Half Men, is based on a very 'BP' man being divorce raped by his ex-wife who turned bad after they married, and having his brother have enormous amounts of sexual success by being much more 'RP'. So I think the more basic ideas are very widely acknowledged, but a lot of people don't take them seriously because what they don't acknowledge is…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 12:24 AM
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Well yeah, guys who hate everyone because nobody likes them, especially women, have existed for a very long time, long before MRA was ever even a thing. He did what he did because he was unstable and he couldn't get laid. He hated other guys as much as he hated women. His hatred was based in his own frustration regarding his inability to attain sexual validation, and that was it. There was nothing anti-feminist or pro-MRA about it. If you think about it, it wasn't even anti-woman at all, it was …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/09/16 12:13 AM
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Elliot Rodger wasn't an MRA, what evidence is there that actually links him to MRA? The fact that he hated women? That doesn't make him an MRA. He also killed more guys than girls. You're just talking out of your arse.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 07:34 PM
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Eh, maybe he has a nice face. He has to adjust his standards significantly, but saying nothing will help him is wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:46 PM
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I've literally had endorsed contributors say stuff like "Don't you know who you're talking to" and to watch my "tone" and "show some respect", because they think that their position in TRP hierarchy actually matters or is impressive/respectable or whatever. It's embarrassing, it's really really embarrassing. Like, how can you want to belong to a community like that, and be so enthusiastic about it. It's the least 'alpha' thing imaginable.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:18 PM
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Well yeah but the 'spectrum' is just a convenient way of describing something that we know almost nothing about. There's a strong correlation of retardation with autism for whatever reason, but it's wrong to think of it like a kind of disease or serious disorder. It's unusual, but it's much better understood as a different 'neuro-tribe'. That gets a lot of people clamoring to call it special snowflake syndrome, but it's true. The issue is that people associate autism inherently with disability, …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:11 PM
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Yeah, and a ton of neurotypical people do the exact same thing as well. TRP is shit advice for anyone who has a strong aversion to faking personality. Maybe it would get him laid more, probably not, but it'd be bad advice because he actually wants to get laid as himself. He wants himself to be validated, not some character that he made up, otherwise it's pointless. Might as well tell him to go to a prostitute if he really wants to get laid. Likely he will never get a girl more attractive than a …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 11:30 AM
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Autistic people aren't required to act like other humans in order to be successful. It's not really a disability either, just a different neuro-tribe. Do we have worse social skills? Sure, but that doesn't make us disabled anymore than white people are physically disabled because black people are faster than them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 01:00 AM
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No worries man. You're probably not going to get a friends with benefits thing realistically though. First of all, most girls aren't open to that kind of arrangement with people that aren't in the top 20-30% in terms of attractiveness, and a lot of girls who say they're happy with that often try and use that as a springboard into a relationship. Just like really, don't be afraid to try hard and be bold. You have to put yourself out there and demonstrate your complete, unflinching interest which …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:56 AM
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People with autism are naturally repulsed by that sort of stuff. Only really insecure fuckers like me will actually ever push past that revulsion in the hopes of getting laid. It's not the 'misogyny', it's the putting on an act aspect that is incredibly unappealing more than anything else. Of course then you find out that it's mostly bullshit anyway, but at the same time, realising it was bullshit was a fundamental step in the development of how I approach women sexually.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:44 AM
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I'm literally the only one here who's qualified to give advice here, so everyone else shut the fuck up for a moment. I'm twenty two years old and I'm also autistic, and I'm actually a heterosexual guy who has some success. Okay first of all, yes your race and your height is a problem. That sucks. I happen to be a fairly beautiful, white man of average height, so I have a head start. All is not lost, just adjust your standards accordingly, and with that your standards should probably be fairly lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/09/16 12:39 AM
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And watch what happens when they stop like being around 'who you are', then the way that women objectify men becomes quite apparent.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:53 PM
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that takes precedence over finding someone who loves them for who they really are Not that I disagree with the rest of your post, but you're kidding yourself if you think women actually give a shit about 'who you are'. They like you for the value that you provide them with.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 10:06 PM
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Do you see a RP flair next to my username?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 09:41 PM
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I know you literally said that but the way you're using inferred is incorrect. And from the beginning I've said "12-17" which includes the ages you find attractive I never said this was 'prime' age. NEVER. I never implied it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 08:49 PM
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Okay well I really don't care anyway, it's kind of a shithole.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 08:01 PM
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The word you're looking for is 'implied'. And not only did I not do that, you also used quotation marks, which is you saying that I said that, which I did not.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 07:55 PM
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Why would I ask TRP questions? That makes no sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 07:51 PM
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No no, I took issue with people saying that it was "gross" to find these women attractive. Don't put words into my mouth. The women you seem to view as "prime" find it creepy. And again, I never said that they were "prime" at all. You strawman without shame, it's repulsive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 07:32 PM
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Okay then why did you reply to me in the first place since that wasn't what I was arguing?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:28 PM
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I made a thread about one of the endorsed contributors privately messaging me, implying that he would get me banned, because of my apparently deviant views that he felt promoted naughty behaviour that didn't align with how his view of the world should work. Then I used him as an example of how this kind of moralizing behaviour is really just how tradcucks approach their sexual strategy (it's a bad strategy), and has little to do with actual morality. It was a great thread but they banned me :(
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 06:27 PM
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Yeah they did, but I think it expires after 90 days. Just gonna get banned again though.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 05:55 PM
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Yeah, I'll ban anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 05:55 PM
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Because you're the expert? No, I'm not, but I can tell you what the experts say and the answer is... no one is really sure, there are many factors, none of which are conclusive at all. Not when puberty hits. Because even old times days, some girls still hit puberty far earlier than other girls. Yeah but they were rarely eleven year old girls. It's very simple, men are attracted to the mature-looking girls, probably starting around the mid-teens. Younger than that, even if they've hit puberty, si…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 05:13 PM
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The point is that while very young girls can be sexually mature, they still look like eleven year olds and we aren't naturally attracted to eleven year olds. Girls used to become sexually mature at aged sixteen, and they looked like sixteen year olds, which is why it's perfectly natural and healthy to be attracted to sixteen year olds. Also that is such bullshit. It's unhealthy to reach puberty at that early age. There's literally no conclusive evidence that simply being well-nourished leads to …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 04:36 PM
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You're saying you're ok with a increased risk to a mother just because you get to get your dick wet. What the fuck? This is the most retarded strawman I've been shown today. You care greatly, this has been a 12+ hour conversation. So STFU with that "I don't care, I'm only here to argue." I like to argue. How strange! A Person who likes to argue on a forum that exists for the purpose of arguing. I almost can't believe it myself. What I'm saying is that your defense is a) wholly unnecessary (becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 04:01 PM
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I'm aware of what it is, I want you to say it. I want you to tell me how miniscule the death rate is for late teenage childbirth. So stop making the argument. I'm straight up telling you I don't give a flying fuck if you're attracted to teens. I'm not poking holes in that. I'm not trying to justify anything or am being defensive. Don't be so arrogant as to think that you don't care about what I think, but I must care about what you think. I'm here to make arguments for the sake of argumentation.…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 03:42 PM
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It's not normal for girls to start puberty that early. It used to be normal for girls to start puberty at around sixteen years old. Twelve year old girls may have tits nowadays but they still look like twelve year olds and so aren't attractive.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 03:02 PM
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And I'm not trying to justify it, this argument was aimed at me. It wasn't me who brought this argument up. Please stop making things up.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:55 PM
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Give me the death rate of teenage births.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:54 PM
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Yes, they banned me... fair's fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:49 PM
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You're at the stage where you don't have enough experience to realize that you are inexperienced, but at a good enough stage to have some skills to get by. No one in their twenties is experienced. I've been making music since I was about six and I hardly see myself as experienced. I've been doing what I do for much longer than you've been doing corporate work, or having sex or whatever. I am acutely aware of what it's like to think that you're experienced because you have 5-10 years experience u…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:46 PM
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I've seen some very developed fourteen year olds too, and yeah they were pretty attractive but you can generally tell that they're younger and stay away from them for social reasons. My point was at 12-17 we typically found advances from much older men creepy and uncomfortable. Well yeah no shit. I'm not saying old men should be approaching late teenagers but it's perfectly normal for them to find them attractive. That said, if a teenage girl did make it clear that she was interested I wouldn't …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:35 PM
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Imo, they both have a different kind of experience. Those are two different things. Just like how having an ''orgy'' with 10 people gives you a different kind of sexual experience than having 10 ONS. Just like having a classic ONS and having tantric sex on shrooms is a different kind of sexual experrience. Yes, they are both experienced, but we are talking about being experienced, seasoned. Experience is only as good as what it teaches you, and if you haven't had the proper time to develop persp…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:26 PM
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http://hubpages.com/family/Stages-of-Development---Puberty There are different stages of puberty. I am talking about girls who are at the end, not girls who have just gotten their periods. Eleven year olds do not look attractive because they obviously aren't developed. Most late teens absolutely are.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:12 PM
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So by your own admission you would have been attracted to me or a girl like me. I said post-pubescent. So no, I absolutely wouldn't be attracted to an eleven year old and funnily enough, I never have been!
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:02 PM
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I'm turning 24 in like a month and a half. So no, I'm not quite in my early twenties. Twenty three so okay, basically yeah. turned out -- I'm doing me, all good, other people can do them. That said, I do think I understand sex better than many, many older people just because I've had so goddamn much of it. And I've had relationships, too. I had a 3.5 year relationship, cohabiting for 2.5 of those years. That's time, you know? That's nothing lol. That is absolutely no time at all. At your age you…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 02:00 PM
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cuz she had bangin titties.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 01:16 PM
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Yes you are, I'm saying that post-pubescent teenagers are attractive, and you're saying that fondling twelve year olds is creepy. You're blatantly trying to strawman me by pretending that my argument is that this is okay. Do you honestly think anyone is that stupid to not see that, just because you say you're not doing it? I'm not offended by it's use because taking offense is generally stupid, I tend not to get offended. I especially would never take offence to women calling people creepy becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 01:14 PM
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Aren't you like in your early twenties or something? Experience requires time, not just the frantic doing of things. You're not experienced in the way that an older woman who has experienced a significant number of sexual encounters and romantic relationships is, which is what you're trying to give the impression of being. In fact, you're highly unusual in your relatively short experience of sexual and romantic relationships, and you're trying to find a short-cut to experience by just doing as m…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 01:07 PM
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There isn't really a specific gate-keeper dynamic at all. If a woman wants a man in particular then the man is the gate-keeper, and vice versa. It's true that men catch feelings, this is called empathy, also love, two sides of the same coin really. It's very unhealthy for men to get into relationships but they get trapped in them, and simple-minded men who lack a strong sense of independence can even be happy in them, like that obese guy who doesn't care that he's killing himself because he just…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 12:56 PM
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Yeah I know. Please stop pretending that you're the one that isn't offended here, and please stop straw-manning my argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 12:05 PM
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That wasn't my defense, which is why I didn't bring it up, I'm simply showing why their point is bullshit. They're attractive because they possess more neotenous features and possess the secondary sexual characteristics that make women attractive to men and demonstrate that she's sexually mature. You are wrongly acting like it's a struggle for sixteen year olds to give birth. The overwhelming amount of these births will be successful. Why? Because they're sexually mature.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 11:48 AM
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I'm not talking about 12 year olds, I'm talking about between the ages of 15-18, and I'm not talking about all fifteen year olds. I'm talking about clearly post-pubescent women. No one cares what girls find creepy anymore because girls have abused their use of the word to essentially describe any kind of unfettered male sexuality. I'm not talking about fondling twelve year olds, great strawman. I'm talking about having consensual sex with actual women.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 11:45 AM
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The vast majority of teen pregnancies (and teen marriages, for that matter) occur in the developing world. Keep reading - for all our pearl clutching in developed nations, teen pregnancy is nowhere near the issue it is here. How does that change my point at all? One of the biggest risks of death to pregnant women is murder (even in the developed world). So no, it's not that cut and dry again. Again, that's completely irrelevant to my point... No, I don't think older women should be having babies…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/09/16 12:15 AM
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"Ninety-nine per cent of maternal deaths occur in the developing world". Great, we aren't in the developing world so surely this is irrelevant? I'll bite anyway. The death rate is still very low compared to the success rate, isn't it? You'll find that the overwhelming majority of births are successful for that age. Yes, pregnancy is risky, and even sexually mature women are at risk. What you're ignoring is that while there are more likely to be complications at a younger age, many of the deaths …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 10:45 PM
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Men of various ages have been making babies with teenage girls for a very long time. Besides, that is hardly the point. The only point is that this whole argument that teenagers supposedly aren't sexually mature enough, and so being attracted to them is on par with paedophilia, is nonsense because teenage girls have been producing children for a very long time and possess all the secondary sexual characteristics that indicate that a woman is sexually mature. You can think it's gross for social r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 10:06 PM
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The entire argument against what I'm saying is that it's supposedly biologically unnatural. Don't cry about it when it turns out that it's a blatant excuse to demonize male sexuality that doesn't even hold up.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:25 PM
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It's not that I don't believe it, it's just that you misinterpret it completely. Something not being ideal, doesn't mean that it isn't okay. You're absolutely kidding yourself if you think that the majority of your human ancestors didn't have children as teenagers.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:17 PM
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It's a risk factor for Asian women and black women to have white men's babies too! Is that gross? Is it gross because something something hips aren't properly etc. Teenagers are perfectly capable of having children and have all the secondary sexual characteristics that make men attracted to them. You wouldn't even be here if teenagers couldn't successfully have children lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 05:06 PM
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"Basically whatever is applicable to me personally" Every answer from men in this thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:37 PM
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Yeah I agree, a minority of men are finally getting a piece of the privilege pie that used to be exclusive to women, while still mostly reaping the rewards of their innately superior abilities. Still a minority though...
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:35 PM
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No, if I'm attracted to a seventeen year old it's because she looks sexually mature, like most seveteen year olds do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:27 PM
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I don't think gawky is the word. Who is attracted to gawky? Men are attracted to younger looking, sexually-matured women and a lot of late teens fit the bill, and it's not the fact that they're typically more awkward and nervous that makes them attractive. There's nothing 'gross' or deviant about it. If you think that's gross it's because you have issues with male sexuality as a whole. Like I said, you have no idea how normal this is for men because you immediately shame anyone who is like this.…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 04:13 PM
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Well if you keep calling them gross people aren't going to be very open about it, are they?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/09/16 03:22 PM
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Nothing compared to the US.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 06:04 PM
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No, you have to look at it that way because women offer themselves up as a product to be had. Women can only hold up their end of the deal with their vaginas, without them they have absolutely no chance of maintaining a romantic relationship because fundamentally that is what women offer. They are whores in the way that they approach their sexual imperative. The man continues to provide (whether it's material or emotional) and the woman rewards him with her sexual validation. As soon as the man …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 05:42 PM
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Of course they would, which is why if you've been paying any attention at all you would know that. Personality plays little part in whether you want to fuck someone, but that isn't the same as being in love with someone. Really really obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 01:37 PM
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They don't care about a woman's personality (some of them) with regards to sexual attraction. That has nothing to do with romance or love. End of thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 01:34 PM
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Is there any evidence behind what you're saying? No. Why is this a thread? You're just saying 'I disagree with this' without actually explaining why.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 01:04 PM
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You should do some research into the drinking habits of women at large. It's funny how it's 'masculine' behaviour, and yet women seem to be so drawn to behaving that way. It's almost as if our bodies react in the exact same ways to drugs with the exact same pleasure centres and so on...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 12:33 AM
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You're assuming that what women want is sex on the tap. Hitting the wall occurs when they experience a relatively sudden drop in SMV which makes it much harder for them to obtain commitment and relationship goodies. It's particularly harsh because at the same time there are fewer and fewer available, attractive men, which means that the attractive men that are left have many more options than before, including the younger women as well, and that makes it even harder for the woman. Women are not …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 12:29 AM
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Uh no it actually doesn't assume that at all, I have no idea why you're assuming that.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/09/16 12:11 AM
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I'm still talking with regards to how they operate sexually. Speaking metaphorically, it is impossible for a woman to be the buyer. If you look at it that way you have to also look at a fruit stall-owner as 'buying' money with apples.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/09/16 11:20 AM
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But girls don't pay for sex. Girls are the object of sex, it's the guy who has to pay for sex (not literally of course). All women have to do is have value, and since women are their own saleswomen, they can sometimes convince men that they have more value than they really do, but ultimately they're being bought. When women aim for men, or try to seduce them or whatever, they're doing it because they want to convince him to go for her because he has something that she wants, similar to how stall…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/09/16 11:04 PM
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No. Arseholes are only sexy when they're perfectly clean, and shaved, and not too brown. Even then, they're more like a little bit of decoration at the top of the picture which shows the girl's butt, hips, and back. Guys like butts for the buttocks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 02:18 PM
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the bum hole is?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 02:11 PM
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No, not at all. I'm replying to the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 02:11 PM
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On the contrary what? ON THE CONTRARY WHAT DAMN IT??
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 02:03 PM
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They don't look at guys' arseholes, they look at their glutes because they're a symbol of physical strength and you know... thrusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 01:55 PM
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Is there a model of gender dynamics or about men and women that you do find accurate? I got most of my information from this guy https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC424BtaOL-vlmUFIXEASwyQ/videos and I generally like to pass off what he says as my own original thoughts. I don't agree with everything he says, more and more so as my views develop and become more nuanced, but really most of it is extremely solid. It's hard to see TRP as anything but fantasy goop after actually digesting the ideas that…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 12:17 PM
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And once you do, you'll likely have months, years and maybe even the rest of your life to have sex with them. Gross, no thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/09/16 12:06 PM
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Yeah I agree that you should show sexual intent as soon as you're sexually interested, but I'm starting to think that waiting for longer to have sex with them is better. I feel like guys are in too much of a rush to get their dicks in. I get the impression that sex would be better after weeks/months of flirting as acquaintances or 'kind of friends'. I'm gonna experiment with this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 11:45 PM
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Well I don't have any at the moment so I'd definitely get with a girl for her money.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 11:34 PM
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Just because I am a cunt and have awful things to say about women doesn't mean I agree with TRP. RP theory is mostly either totally wrong or inaccurate and I also completely disagree with their 'lifestyle' advice and think they're all losers/arseholes. I'm 'red-pilled' sure, but nothing to do with TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 11:32 PM
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Why is this meaningless? It creates the overall feeling people have of life. It's just vague and wishy washy, doesn't really mean anything, maybe it does to you but you're not really explaining what you mean by positivity and negativity. Are you talking about negative emotions, or negative ideas, or negative experiences or what? From a different perspective you could definitely say that there's more positivity than negativity, but I just don't think it means anything. I agree. Still makes life a…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 07:15 PM
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Ideology, but the left is more prone to falling victim to ideological thinking. A large part of the Right is primarily concerned with conservative pragmatism, essentially not having people intervene with one another too much and just doing what seems like a good idea and doesn't rock the boat too much. Not the entire right of course, but there's far more of that on the right than there is on the left.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 11:31 AM
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I think it's because men project how they experience and desire sex onto women. They think that if women really loved and wanted sex that there must be something seriously wrong with them because women are still resistant to the idea of having sex with them. Like if someone says they really love chocolate cake and then you offer them chocolate cake and they hastily decline. You'd think that there must be something wrong with your cake, especially if lots and lots of people reject it.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 12:15 AM
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I'm trying to continue the discussion, and if you don't like that then you can just leave, instead of trying to just shut it down. It's interesting that you just won't do that, considering you said this: I'm not motivated by a desire to persuade you, just to enjoy myself and expose mine or a point of view to the internet, not to you specifically. In this case PPD is the vehicle. Just now. You obviously do, and I'm really enjoying the irony of you showing exactly how you aren't impartial at all i…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/09/16 12:10 AM
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Then why are you getting so salty? Why are you so obviously emotionally invested in this argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 11:58 PM
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I'm not motivated by a desire to persuade you Oh my god this is such rubbish. Yeah, and you're the guy who claims to espouse the impartial, 'dispassionate' way of viewing the world. Total nonsense, admit it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 11:46 PM
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Ladies, if you want men to trust that you believe in equality, you need to take back control of your own movement, shout down the crazies, and kick the radicals out. Until you do, feminism is and always will be a misandrist hate movement and nothing that you say will change that. This is how all leftist ideological movements end up, because 'purity' and dedication to the cause are a much bigger deal to the left than to the right in general. The people with moderate views don't really care that m…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 11:35 PM
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Yes, this is definitely the first time I've heard the 'I could tell you why you're wrong and could have done it all this time but I can't be bothered so I'll just tell you that you are' line. So uninspired.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 11:28 PM
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No I mean, why wouldn't you respond to my question? Laziness? You've made how many posts in this discussion and now you just can't be bothered to respond even though it's supposedly what would prove me wrong. That doesn't make sense to me. What does make sense to me if you pretending that you just don't care because you're not really sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 11:27 PM
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"Hmm what shall I do, I have no idea what to say... I know! Hurr, nup I alredy told u b4 even tho i didn';t so ill pass herp derp".
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 11:16 PM
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hey're not identical to each other, but they are clearly closely related. What. because they're both negative emotions? That doesn't mean that they're really similar. Being depressed entails that one is unhappy Man, it's like you don't know a thing about depression. Being depressed means that you are depressed, not that you are unhappy. Depressed people are perfectly capable of not being unhappy, and often just feel 'empty' as opposed to feeling sad. The word "depressed" can also be used colloqu…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 11:15 PM
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I don't think anyone actually believes that looks don't matter, I think that's hyperbole. What is interesting is that, while looks still play a big role, a man with average to above average looks is still able to have wild success with women, success that even very good looking men aren't able to attain. Of course that's really hard, but it's still quite possible. He's still able to seriously increase his sex appeal, whereas for average women this isn't really possible, to a degree they can, but…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 11:08 PM
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You clearly haven’t been paying attention. We've already been through this. Great, refresh my memory then. You won't be able to, because you completely contradict yourself. I already mentioned this in the post you are replying to. Please try to keep up. But in the larger context of your argument it's obvious what you mean. You insist that a person should be neutral why proclaiming all the benefits to a pessimistic viewpoint. I'm looking forward to you reminding me about how you already argued th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 10:56 PM
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I’m talking about being in a depressed mood, an unhappy state of mind. But unhappy isn't the same as depressed. To your next point, those first two quotes are arguments against your point, and the other three are just off-the-cuff remarks.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 10:54 PM
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I responded to that with a view from Seneca and the Stoics that sees power in pessimism or, more accurately, an awareness and preparedness for negative possibilities and outcomes. That's not what pessimism is though. That is, should one start out trying to be positive, negative or just neutral. It was and is my view that when first coming to an understanding of a situation, one should approach it dispassionately, meaning impartially, and not attempt to put a positive or negative spin on it. How …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 10:03 PM
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As I said before, depression has many different causes and manifests itself in a myriad of ways. Having unfulfilled illusions is just one of the ways it can arise. If we're talking about spiritual/mental depression then yeah it's pretty much the only way. I make exceptions for physical illness, prolonged periods of time in small areas, and repetitive traumatic experiences. Of course, I wouldn't really describe those things in the same way as the spiritual depression that occurs in most humans, w…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 09:51 PM
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No you're wrong. No remedy is perfect. It’s just another string to one’s bow. Well no, because if depression is really caused by illusions then you would expect it to disappear once those illusions that cause depression have been dispelled. So yeah, there is. Okay, and my argument is that you’re wrong and what you’re thinking is wrong. Nice try, but that doesn't work because you're the one who started the argument by presenting your opinion in the OP. Woops. No, it is as I said it was. If it wer…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 07:51 PM
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My argument is that impartiality is important when using reason to seek the truth. That’s it. Uh no, because if that were your argument you wouldn't have posted so much about pessimism and stoicism, and would have just said that. In fact, we wouldn't be having this argument if you had just said that because I don't disagree with that. Go back into the thread and you'll see that you're saying much more than this plainly simple observation. I think what you're doing is called a motte-and-bailey ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 07:46 PM
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Like I said, I don't think any intelligent and informed INTP would align with either RP or BP.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 06:43 PM
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So is it your position that being impartial is not preferable to being biased when using reason to seek the truth? I've never said anything of the sort, which further reinforces my point that you wrongly believe that stoic thought is fundamentally tied to rationalism. Wrooong. I’m aware that you think stoicism and my views about rationality are bullshit, but so what? Is that your argument and am I supposed to care? I don't know, make your own mind up. You use so many stawmen that that’s usually …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 05:52 PM
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I’m addressing the kind that is brought about by disillusionment, however it my manifest itself. One can only become disillusioned if they had illusions to begin with. A remedy against this is to use whatever means are at your disposal to remove illusions. That’s usually going to involve a more sober outlook on life in the absence of compelling evidence to the contrary. Many a depressed person will have started off with greater hopes and optimism than their current state, so you will not have en…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 05:48 PM
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Again, you are projecting. No I'm not and this is a wild abuse of that word. Nowhere do I say stoicism is a precursor to rationality. I simply say rationality is best approached from a position of dispassion. Same thing essentially. They are entirely separate, however much they might overlap. I know you're simply saying it, but I'm simply disagreeing with you, and I don't see why you're having such a difficult time understanding that. Personally I think that stoicism is bullshit. We are all flaw…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 05:21 PM
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Did you write this? This is a really boring post and it's mostly wrong anyway. Most RPers are aware of what they are and what they're doing there, at least they're on the same level of understanding of themselves as this blog post is. It also peddles the same nonsense about how men shouldn't seek to find sexual validation from women. I mean really, there's nothing interesting here. Why does everyone seemingly need to have a blog? It just takes up internet space.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 03:25 PM
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INTP. I genuinely don't think any intelligent and informed INTP could align with either RP or BP. They're both retarded.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 03:18 PM
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This is the counter-intuitive thing that you don't seem to grasp, and that Seneca and the Stoics tried to explain to people. Unrealistic or even just high expectations are less likely to be met than more reasonable or sober expectations, which therefore leads to greater disappointment, unhappiness and, yes, depression. It's not that I can't understand it, it's simply that it's wrong. Most depressed people I meet have extremely negative views of the world and always have, and viewing the world pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 03:12 PM
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Reason and facts exist, despite the cognitive limitations of human beings and the emergence of post-modern subjectivity. No more needs to be said. Yeah but you're assuming that what you see from a 'dispassionate' view is correct, and that you have all the angles you need. Again, you might acknowledge the existence of alternative perspectives, but you don't see them as being equally valid because you still wrongly believe in a base plane of rationality, obviously. You still erroneously believe th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 02:34 PM
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And again, you have no basis for your opinion so it's not worth anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 01:25 PM
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Yer sounds like me. I think at the same time, you can't expect them to be like ordinary friendships. They're post-sexual friendships, which means there's still going to be a degree of intimacy and discomfort with regards to jealousy. Jealousy is instinctual, and really all you can try to do is repress, it or rather logic it away as best you can. It's always a tricky situation but I think it tends to work out for the best. Certainly if you're going to have children it's an absolute requirement.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 01:24 PM
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Well yeah, mods ruin everything, pretty obvious isn't it? Mods should really only exist to ban blatant trolls. If people want their feelings protected they should just leave the page, no one is stopping them from doing that.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 11:21 AM
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Yeah I know, I'm not saying it isn't. I'm not even saying it isn't good evidence necessarily, just that it's not scientific evidence.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 11:10 AM
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How is it not? I think being able to step back and at least striving to look at things as they are, rather than as something personal to us, is pretty empowering for most people. While depressives are well-known for accomplishing the first (they often have a heightened sense of the nature of things), they aren't able to accomplish the latter. Because having a critical outlook is no guarantee of achieving the mindset required for solving the problem of depression. Sure, it could help if you're al…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 11:09 AM
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http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/13/news/la-ol-blowback-pscyhology-science-20120713 Psychology is great and it's only bettered when people realise that it's not a science so people can actually get on and do some work. The issue, and I had this problem too, is that people see psychology as being scientific because it has a kind of scientific spirit, i.e. experimenting and observing to try and find out some kind of truth. It isn't a science though, technically, which is why I very much can't …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/09/16 12:27 AM
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Not all men cheat, so she has no reason to believe you are unfaithful. She has every reason to believe that I'm unfaithful. She saw me kissing another girl at a club and got mad at me, she knows I saw my ex a couple of months ago, and I make it very clear that I'm interested in other women sexually. She's not stupid, she knows I'd cheat if I had the chance. Men aren't hardwired to be dirtbags You might not have that drive, but I do. I'm following my sexual imperative in the best way that I can, …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 11:59 PM
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No it couldn't, otherwise neuroscience would just replace psychology. Oh my god this thread is such a mess.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 11:47 PM
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It isn't scientific proof.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 11:40 PM
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but the fact that it isn't proven and never will makes it a special kind of bullshit. Err, no it doesn't, that would make all of psychology bullshit, which it isn't, it just isn't a science.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 11:37 PM
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Most of theredpill claims are un-falsifiable so are basically bullshit by default What!? Psychology is not a proper science. You are always going to find falsifiable evidence but that doesn't mean it's bullshit. Plus, there really isn't a lot of institutional study into this sort of thing, and there isn't really much need for there to be, considering how much of a joke psychology is nowadays.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 11:24 PM
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I don't disagree, I just think that it's difficult to know, and that anecdotal evidence is pretty pointless. Trying to guess the percentage of false rape claims from the total number of rapes is a really pointless exercise in general. I think the rape claims that people doubt here are the ones in which alcohol is involved at college parties and similar contexts, not when kids are being abused or girls are brutally gang-raped by guys from the hood. Obviously you can take into account context with…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 11:04 PM
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I'll need twenty-four hours, a video camera, a plunger, and a fishing rod.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 10:55 PM
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But it's based on lies. You assume she knows it's an open relationship It's not a lie. It's a monogamous relationship, but I'm a cheater. you assume she's okay with that I assume she knows that if I were alone with a woman that I wanted to have sex with that I would. I assume that if she had a problem with that she would dump me. Monogamous LTRs are for the female's sexual imperative, not for the male's, so excuse me for leveling out the playing field a bit. Our sexual imperatives may be diverge…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 10:53 PM
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I don't discount that it happens. I simply said that it's relatively rare, in my experience. And how are you supposed to know when someone is lying? I've seen male lawyers on reddit who claim that it's pretty much 50/50. No one really knows.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 10:36 PM
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Trust me, I'm not.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 10:31 PM
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No one is suffering. I enjoy her company and apparently she enjoys mine. We have sex and hang out, and even if we weren't boyfriend/girlfriend we'd be doing the same thing. Seeing it as a monogamous boyfriend/girlfriend relationship is for her benefit, not mine, I don't see it that way and she knows that. This isn't a particularly nice girl FYI. I respect her feelings and don't want to hurt them, but she knows what I'm like and what the relationship is.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 10:21 PM
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Depends on the woman. Some women are more aware of people's suffering than others, and some women care more about it than others. How a woman acts is dependent on the gain from an action outweighing the shame. Women who have no reason to feel shameful things seem like emotional retards because they aren't wired to seek to protect people's feelings, so if they don't understand why something is wrong they won't give a shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 09:53 PM
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There's more negativity in the world, in life, in existence, than positivity. Completely meaningless. Life is a tragedy more so than not. We all die, love ends abruptly We die because we get to live and love ends because we get to love. They would be meaningless to us if there weren't an opposite to them. we feel and focus on negative things instinctually more than positive things Only if you're determined to view the world that way. we have negative feelings like nostalgia but no positive count…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 09:47 PM
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Basically, uncritical outlooks (idealistic outlooks and cynical outlooks, which are both just opposite sides of the same coin) are both divorced from reality, so both are bound to leave one feeling frustrated with and unfulfilled in life. My dog seems pretty happy, and I'm pretty sure she doesn't take much time to critically think about the world. No, a critical outlook on life is not the answer to depression.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 09:44 PM
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Have you ever met any unhappy and depressed people? Do they strike you as people with positive outlooks? It's a bit more complicated than what you're saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 09:42 PM
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Of course you can look critically at the world and come to a positive conclusion. However, a predetermined determination to be positive or negative does not aid your comprehension of reality. It's better to be dispassionate. This is the problem. 'Realists' like yourself believe that there's a kind of base plane of rationality, which there really isn't, and this makes insecure people uncomfortable (see: TRP). We aren't trying to prove any kind of hypothesis, we aren't going to come to some kind o…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 09:42 PM
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Her: 10-20 Me: 5-10
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 07:05 PM
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Why? We enjoy each other's company. I see no reason to break up with her and she sees no reason to break up with me. How many women have you been with? How many men has she been with? You mean for sex or relationships?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 06:55 PM
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Except sex with a person after a few months basically ceases to be sex and essentially just becomes enhanced masturbation. Men want female validation, and you can only get so much out of it from one girl. Men stick around with women who mistreat them because men are submissive, not because they want to keep having sex with the same woman for years on end.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 06:52 PM
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The 'who said...?' was a rhetorical question. You can still look critically at the world and come out with a positive outlook. The fact that you don't see the need to separate 'uncritical' from 'positive outlook' pretty much demonstrates that you don't see how a positive outlook might stem from critical thought. Now I understand that the OP was way off too, but my point stands. But this is the issue, people who are convinced that they've reached the pinnacle of rationalism because they associate…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 06:44 PM
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Probably lots of reasons but for me it's because I enjoy my girlfriend's company from time to time and I wouldn't want to hurt her feelings by breaking up with her, so I just kind of stay with her while looking for other girls to have flings with. I don't even really look anyway, but if something presents itself to me I'll take it. She knows it anyway I'm sure, and she probably does mind, but as long as we don't talk about it, it doesn't seem to bother her. I know she doesn't have any kind of se…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 06:25 PM
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Who said anything about an 'uncritical' positive outlook? The idea that cynical, pessimistic views are somehow more based in reality than positive views is complete garbage. It's always messy when TRP attempts to deal with philosophy because they generally aren't smart enough to handle it, so they end up just choosing to follow whatever makes them seem as manly and badass as possible.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 05:24 PM
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Yeah it doesn't make any sense to say that you 'use TRP'. It's meaningless.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 05:20 PM
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LOL welcome to the internet!
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 12:13 PM
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Do you actually think that being RP makes you different or special in any way or something?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 11:17 AM
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My family has always had dogs, and it has always been an effective way of teaching them to behave when other methods don't work.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 12:43 AM
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There's more demand for pussy than there is for dick. Dick is about quality rather than variety, as it is with pussy. Inevitably, 'stars' will be made to fulfill female fantasy but there's only a limited need. There's no limit to how much pussy fantasy guys will want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 12:15 AM
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LOL I'm not being particularly serious. My dog is a lady and so doesn't need to poop, but scolding your doggy is not always a bad way of training them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/09/16 12:13 AM
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Do you get mad at the dog for shitting in the house? Well? Do you. It's a dog. It's what they do. Yes, and then they learn to shit outside.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 08:28 PM
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It has nothing to do with the original argument but I figured we'd finish with that, just thought I'd point it out because it didn't seem like you were aware of it.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 07:27 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archaic_human_admixture_with_modern_humans#Neanderthals It means that we are not exactly the sub-saharans that arrived back then.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 06:09 PM
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I mean that non-sub-Saharans did not arrive out of Africa 100,000 years ago.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 04:44 PM
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You might want to do some further research into the 'out of Africa' theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 04:22 PM
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For the purpose of this argument? Because you said that it was agriculture that led to mate-guarding and patriarchy more generally. I disagreed, there are examples of egalitarianism in successful agricultural societies and examples of patriarchy in successful HG societies. Our instinctive drives can be found easily in modern civilization, you just need to know how and where to look.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 03:24 PM
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Nah, it's obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 03:14 PM
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Lots of nomadic tribes did it, keep looking, it's not hard to find. We're trying to see what the human experience was like in evolutionary times No we are not. You put forward an argument and are now changing it. You said HGs had no punishment for adulterers which is wrong. You argued that they were primarily polygamous which was also wrong, and you said that mate-guarding was primarily cultural which again was wrong. Now you're trying to change the argument. I am bored of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 03:13 PM
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Nope, you just have a low standard for what constitutes unique and talented. This is normal for women to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 02:59 PM
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Yet western women are absolutely begging for Islamic invaders to subjugate them Not really. The vast majority of women find third world men absolutely repulsive. Women just have self-mutilating tendencies, that's all.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 02:33 PM
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Because they weren't unique.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 02:28 PM
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Look up nose mutilation of adulterers among various nomadic native american tribes.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 01:39 PM
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I'm guessing that the ones who executed women for adultery were farmers rather than HG. No, HG societies mutilated cheating women.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 01:32 PM
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Female privilege is even greater than what is generally discussed in MRA. All women have to do to experience huge success in life is be moderately skilled. If you're a musician, your vagina will make up for your lack of exceptional skill. Simply go on youtube and type in 'girl guitarist' and you'll find thousands of mediocre guitarists with millions of views just because they're girls. As a woman your standards for success are far lower than a man's. Pussy power is a real thing. The reason femal…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 12:51 PM
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The issue is that feminist-minded women grossly over-exaggerate their qualities so they think they're totally as interesting as their boyfriend because they really enjoy a particular kind of modern art, and meanwhile their boyfriend is an artist. They overestimate their intelligence, their charm, and how interesting they are as people which leads them to kid themselves into thinking that their relationships are 'equal'. There are so many prostitutes with shitty online blogs that only serve to in…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 12:45 PM
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I think a lot of people don't understand that 'asking for it' is an expression and doesn't mean that women are literally asking to be raped. I really think we might get somewhere if people actually took the time to understand the difference for a second.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 12:36 PM
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Moderately attractive BP women are convinced that men are desperate to fuck them. Men are just desperate to fuck generally. They aren't kicking themselves that you've rejected them for being sexist, they just move onto the next decent looking girl who won't care. Really, what man is sad that he can't fuck feminists?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 12:32 PM
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I have never said that executing women for adultery is an innate part of human psychology at all. When talking about innate psychology I only ever really talk about drives, not the actual resulting behaviour. I would never argue that humans will always act in a particular way based on a very general instinct, but the instinct is always there and you'll always see it having an effect on whatever social/sexual dynamic. Also, weren't native american societies HG? There is definitely evidence of sev…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 12:16 PM
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Most PUA is just flirting lessons, pretty harmless and ought to be relatively uncontroversial. Actual RP discussion on 'inner game' is far, far worse and much more deceptive.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 11:47 AM
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If you do some research on Nordic societies you'll find that they were often very egalitarian, despite not being HG societies. What's the point of your argument? That egalitarianism disappears once a society becomes agricultural? Well that's not true. Now, in these societies adultery was sometimes punished by deaths, despite being 'egalitarian'. And what's the other part of your argument? That mate-guarding only really exists in agricultural societies and that HG societies were essentially polya…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 11:41 AM
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It's not an institutional thing, because they didn't really have any kind of institutional law. However, women were killed for adultery and so were men. You've been arguing that mate-guarding is a largely cultural phenomenon when clearly it isn't. In fact, if you actually do some research you'll find that most HG societies weren't polygamous.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 11:02 AM
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No, I mentioned that some of these societies executed women for adultery, making an extreme example to show that no, HG societies are not all polyamorous love circles.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/09/16 12:16 AM
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And as I said, people are capable of acting against their instincts. I have an instinctive drive to mate-guard but I also don't want strict monogamy. It's not difficult to understand.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 11:58 PM
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There's a mild form of mate-guarding that is natural enough. Even hunter-gatherer men feel jealous when their favorite girl is going with another guy. So now you're back-tracking. Truthfully, you're unwilling to accept that most of our aversion to polyamory is instinctual. But engaging in group-sanctioned homicide, or any kind of group-sanctioned violence, is definitely pretty marginal in hunter-gatherer societies. Sure, I never said it wasn't. They tend to strongly prefer non-violent solutions.…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 11:36 PM
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Because humans differ from animals in many respects. Also, which animals? Bonobo monkeys don't mate-guard, and we're pretty closely related to them. About as closely related as chimpanzees. My point is that mate-guarding exists outside of your claim that it's because of inheritance. You are claiming that it's a cultural thing, and yet animals do it too, so obviously it isn't. Anyone who's ever actually had an instinctual drive to mate-guard and doesn't live in a fantasy world can also tell you t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 11:01 PM
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Sure, value is value. There's also no reason why men shouldn't be better than women in most ways too. There's no reason why women shouldn't primarily be valued for their vaginas. Not saying I necessarily do or don't agree with that, but there's no reason why the default should be equality at all either.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 10:37 PM
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Do what? Mate-guard? Who says everyone has to always follow their instincts? I would be in prison if I always did that. Besides, they did. Your entire argument is that mate-guarding is based on inheritance and yet animals also do it. Why would they do it in this case?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 10:35 PM
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That's not true for all teenage boys and girls. A lot of them are pretty chill about sharing their partners. Polyamory is getting more common in practice. LOL it's still really rare. It's a tiny minority that practise polyamory. Also it hardly ever works out. Why don't you think it's possible that that's just thousands of years of tradition leaving its mark? Because it's an instinctual feeling. The fact that animals also do it makes me think that it might go back much farther than just a few tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 10:31 PM
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Well yeah for the individual, but you can't make a judgment on behalf of every woman. Women put too much emphasis on looks anyway. Guys want to stop fucking you after 1-3 months anyway so better to have a good personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 10:29 PM
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That being said, I sort of understand where the feminists are coming from. I don't agree with them or think it's logical, but I sort of get it. The problem is when does it stop? One day you say women shouldn't drink at parties, the next that women shouldn't dress provocatively, the next women shouldn't go to parties at all, the next women shouldn't get out at nights, the next women should dress like nuns and stay at home etc. I don't think this is a huge deal. Women can still drink at parties, t…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 10:27 PM
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Not because of some deep instinct Bullshit, this deep instinct is exactly what makes people mate-guard. Teenage boys and girls have this instinct and yet they have nothing to give up for inheritance. You're talking nonsense and ignoring this point I made earlier because it completely destroys your argument. Also, they used to kidnap women a lot and the easiest way to prevent them from escaping was to be incredibly brutal when a slave woman misbehaved, so she is terrified to think what would happ…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 10:13 PM
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I got the impression that you were saying that contextualizing interests or hobbies can be somewhat more compelling than merely listing them Sure but not in the way that you're thinking. I mean, it's hard to define what we mean by what makes someone interesting. Books can be interesting, so I guess what we're talking about is what you can learn from a person. I don't really care why someone is interested in something unless it's new. If you just say 'I find this interesting because I really like…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 09:44 PM
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Who can actually say yes or no to this? Obviously no one can say it without a hint of irony behind it. The question is: why don't women try to look as attractive as possible to men anymore. This is the real question.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 09:33 PM
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But your point is that people couldn't bring themselves to kill members of their family. Why are HGs less capable of that than Muslims?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 09:28 PM
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I don't mean to be rude, but like I said, this doesn't make me think you're even slightly more interesting than before. In fact, this tells me nothing about you whatsoever beyond your day to day actions. Sure, the things you do might be more interesting, but ultimately it tells me nothing about you as a person. It's like a CV. You don't 'score points' on a list to be an interesting person. You just sense it from people. You sense that you can learn something from them. Even if it's not them actu…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 09:27 PM
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Well wtf then? That's literally what I've been doing. You made a point that I disagreed with the most and so I've been arguing against it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 09:22 PM
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Are we hard-wired to mate-guard to the extent of publicly executing a woman because she touched the wrong man's wing-wang? Well many Muslims will kill their brothers, sisters, and children for bringing 'dishonour' to the family for promiscuity so it definitely can happen. Do you have a lot of examples of hunter-gatherer tribes doing that? No. I have read that execution can happen. That's it. Of course, you are centering in on a fairly irrelevant point. Whether they are killed or not, there was p…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 09:21 PM
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Well yeah I agree, I just don't see a list of hobbies as something that makes someone interesting at all. Being an interesting person goes so far beyond surface level. People mistake having interesting knowledge as being interesting when it just isn't. Like, I don't find people who know everything about a particular era in history interesting. If I found that period interesting I'd read books about it, not talk to someone who finds it interesting, and does wanting to know about interesting thing…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 09:06 PM
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'Hunter-gatherer societies' is an extremely broad group. Like I said, they could be executed for adultery. It's really dependent on whatever group you're talking about. The type of society is irrelevant. Even Nordic societies that were just as 'egalitarian' had strict punishments for adultery. Adultery is only a big hairy deal if there is property to inherit. HG people don't own land or anything of much value, so inheritance is irrelevant. This is such terrible nonsense. We are hard-wired to mat…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 09:02 PM
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I did, I'm still not sure what point you're trying to argue.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 08:49 PM
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So was every sexually active woman before birth control happened! The option to have a safe abortion or get a condom did not exist! This isn't what stops every woman from having children. Besides the point though. In these small societies women could be executed for adultery, same as men though. They were 'egalitarian' but not 'feminist'. To clarify, I don't think civilization came about because of patriarchy. I think patriarchy came about because of civilization. Patriarchal civilized societies…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 08:45 PM
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I see it rather as the usual outcome of being interesting. Of course, lots of people hide what it is that makes them interesting because they're afraid to be authentic and sincere, so they aren't really interesting to anyone. I assume we are talking about what makes other people interested in you, as opposed to whether you find yourself interesting. If someone has a long-list of hobbies that's great for them but they could still be completely boring. What's more interesting is why you do any of …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 08:38 PM
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I don't know, what are you arguing? It looked like that was the question you were presenting was.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 08:32 PM
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Yeah I know, I made that clear, but they weren't living in a 3rd world feminist paradise. Women were still expected to have kids, except in specific circumstances, and generally do 'womanly' duties. The difference was that generally women's duties back then were still difficult and tough-going.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 08:31 PM
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I get really, really grossed out when people compare women to cars getting stolen or whatever. Like. It's a body. It's not a car. She's a human being, she's being violated in a way that is very specific and particular and is generally very traumatic. She is not a fucking car that was left in a bad location. Jesus Christ almighty. It's an analogy. I think everyone is quite aware that women aren't cars. There's a common point between rape and robbery and that's why the analogy is made. I know it l…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 08:27 PM
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Some interesting points to be made here. I actually think the premise for the argument is wrong because it's really obvious that sexism and patriarchy is partly what has allowed for the creation of our ridiculously large, global civilization. I don't think the problem is 'egalitarianism' so much, with regards to the shrinking western populations, although egalitarianism is perhaps not the word, because men and women aren't and never will be the same. No one in hunter-gatherer societies saw men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 08:07 PM
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How does that make you interesting? None of that says you're an interesting person, it just says you're an interested person.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/16 06:06 PM
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Haha, yeah, figured you'd be wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 07:48 PM
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Am I allowed to ask her if she's actually a woman or not? Or is that against the rules too?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 07:47 PM
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How is it harassment, I'm trying to figure out if the user is a man or a woman because he/she isn't going to give a straight answer otherwise. It's not some odd kind of sexual harassment, obviously.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 07:42 PM
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It's weird that you won't answer his question anyway. I mean, you seem like an expert on this sort of thing, so why not fill us all in?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/16 07:30 PM
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I disagree. All men have 'the drive' to appear masculine, as stated before. I'm not arguing against that whatsoever, I actually said that this was the case so I don't know why you're suggesting that I don't agree. The difference is in the kind of drive. What healthy man doesn't want to appear masculine? Duh. What exactly do you mean when you constantly state 'it's the drive'? I mean that it is the internal drive, that is defined by your genetics that makes you alpha, and not how you behave. Of c…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 03:10 PM
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alpha
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 02:19 PM
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For god's sake just look at my post history. I don't have the energy to type it all out again for the billionth time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 01:59 PM
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You don't have an argument either lol. You're simply saying things without any evidence or argument behind it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 01:57 PM
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Eh, not really, and at that point you could apply the same to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 01:36 PM
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Sure, but alpha traits kind of predispose you to having a lot of self-confidence regardless of experience. Confidence isn't really the word, and frankly I'm not entirely sure what the word I'd use is either. Alpha men set incredibly high standards for themselves because they see themselves as better than everyone else, certainly, but that doesn't mean they aren't insecure at the same time. Do you think Donald Trump is insecure? Yeah, I think he is too, but is he absurdly arrogant and ambitious a…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 01:20 PM
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Can't argue against that!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 11:01 AM
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You don't understand that what separates people are their drives, and that their drives are reflected generally in their actions, within a certain context of course. It isn't that all men will cheat, because there are plenty of men that don't want to cheat because it'd make them feel like shitheads. Yeah, they exist. What you should have said is that healthy men are driven to have sex with many different women. That is an AMALT trait because it's about drive. All men have a sense of loyalty, hon…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 10:41 AM
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Literally all of these are wrong or very inaccurate lmao.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 10:33 AM
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If there actually is a global collapse then yes we will return to a patriarchy, but if not then no.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 10:28 AM
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Ime, yes. Men who display alpha traits are better in bed because they've got the confidence required to keep the experience fluid. Not necessarily. Confidence comes with experience. They don't second-guess or get caught up in their heads as much as men with beta traits do. Again, not necessarily. This isn't what makes some alpha or beta. And they're less focused on 'proving their masculinity' via jackhammer-style techniques than men who are beta The 'technique' is irrelevant, but they are far mo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 10:24 AM
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There are some good TRP posters on this PPD sub Eh, I'm not really convinced. I think the bulk of what they say is very unoriginal and uninteresting. but there is also a subset and you see it on the front page of TRP certainly, who seem to think playing this role of a bumbling pantomime villain is what will get you laid. This is the majority of RPers. They are almost all frauds, and some ham it up more than others but they're all doing it. Why would you go to TRP for any other reason? Their theo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/08/16 10:09 AM
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Absolutely true, I have been saying this for a while. In fact, it is a way of accepting submission as a man without losing too much self-respect. Women shit-test TO test a man's submission. RPers treat passing shit-tests like it's a great thing. It's not, it's fucking emasculating. It's saying 'you are allowed to emasculate me and I will take it without fighting back because you are the dominant one and I am the submissive one'. This isn't to say that you should fly into a fit of rage when a wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 11:41 PM
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Why do you think that we are lions? This is incredibly stupid. You don't understand that alpha/beta is about personality type, not social hierarchy.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 10:30 PM
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Right, so you believe that men and women are hard-wired differently, but that men aren't. That is a rather opportunistic way of thinking. Nurture is important with regards to success but we are not born blank slates.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 08:59 PM
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Part 2 An alpha is the product of his actions, not how he is wired on the inside. It's hilarious that RPers insist on the fact (rightly) that men and women are hard-wired completely differently, but then turn to the socialization theory when it applies to men so that they can sleep at night. There is perfect evidence that men are hard-wired differently to each other. and that redpillers are all "natural betas" There are some alphas over at TRP, but only unintelligent ones or introverted ones tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 08:50 PM
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Your post was absolutely abysmal, beta to the core. I'm not saying that like an insult, I don't give a shit. I think it's funny because you're ego is invested in you being an alpha male but I'm just here to state how reality actually is. You see that "need for dominance" aspect that you assign to natural alphas, that is not something that you are born with or not born with, that is something ALL men have. It is the natural state of the male who succeeded in the past to spread his genes; remember…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 08:50 PM
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No, we are not lions, we are humans with our own social dynamics, hence why we do not live in prides. I think you may have gone wrong somewhere around the point you decided that we are like lions because why the fuck not lions are cool. I mean, fuck, I wouldn't even make the comparison with chimpanzees because it doesn't relate to humans particularly well, at least not anymore, but wouldn't you at least think towards chimps instead of fucking cats lmao? Everyone fantasizes about dominance, becau…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 06:34 PM
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Yeah, try an argument. Don't be salty because you're a RPer who thinks he's a 'not quite alpha' guy and I'm pissing on your parade.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 05:59 PM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/4z2vmt/cmv_stem_careers_are_for_betas_and_omegas/d6siyrs Your understanding of alpha/beta is wrong, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 05:45 PM
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The thing about Whiplash is that the kid (forgotten his name) is an alpha male too. What happened to the other two drummers? What happened to so many of his other students? Yeah, exactly, they failed, dropped out, or committed suicide. EDIT: You cannot become an alpha, you are either born that way or not. You cannot 'beat the beta' out of someone.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 05:31 PM
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Happiness has nothing to do with how much you are gaining or how much you are giving. Absolutely nothing. In this modern society I am not surprised when anyone says they aren't happy because it simply doesn't come naturally to most people to learn to cope with modern civilisation by themselves. Men are far better at this generally because we are more self-determining than women are. So if this were the case (which it is) I wouldn't be surprised that married men are generally happier than married…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 04:28 PM
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I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF SHOULD JUST BE ABOUT TWO PARAGRAPHS
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 03:21 PM
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You're sad.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 02:41 PM
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To grow muscle requires eating protein, which for best results will come from animal protein. Nope.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 08:59 AM
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People are people, man. That's incredibly stupid.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/16 08:53 AM
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No worries, feel free to respond with questions or disagreements and I'll respond back. I haven't actually smoked much weed recently, not in like a month and a half, but I think I've smoked enough weed to have had a permanent effect LOL.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 11:49 PM
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I'm going to bed pretty soon so I'll keep this very brief. Alpha/beta is basically about type A and type B personalities. They are effectively the same, simply the former is used to discuss sexual dynamics whereas the latter is more for general psychology. Very few psychologists really consider sexual dynamics with regards to type A and type B personalities and seem to be more interested in stress-related heart disease more than anything else, which is quite boring. I'm going off on a tangent al…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 11:15 PM
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Then you don't know what an alpha male actually is.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 10:23 PM
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If you like STEM then you will go into STEM if you're alpha. It's very simple, even if you are shy or introverted or geeky or whatever, alphas gonna alph.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 09:53 PM
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LOL at people who think RPers give women 'vag tingles', maybe less than 1% of them are actually capable of doing that, and the only reason that those people are at TRP is because they're not very intelligent. Marrying a RPer is an absolutely awful idea. You'd be marrying a beta who thinks he's an alpha and deserves to be treated as one, which is a horrific combination. These aren't people who genuinely believe in traditional values, they're frauds who pretend to in the hope that they can lock do…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 03:49 PM
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I interpret brutal differently to you. More traditionally, I suspect. I don't think he understands the 'brutal' part of what he's saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/16 09:42 AM
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It's a product of our complete disconnect from the natural world. We've over-indulged on comfort and now most people are heavily focused on satiating those base urges that make us feel good. We're not afraid of the future, the state will look after us, and we no longer have any sense of pride in our heritage or culture so we don't see any particular reason to continue it. Plus, people are seeing that marriage and children is not such a good time for most people who do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 08:52 PM
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K will do.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/08/16 08:51 AM
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I agree, we can quite easily tell the difference between a fraudster and someone who is genuine. The issue is that this is largely based in intuition, and we often don't understand our intuition, or even outright ignore it. Essentially, we often don't even care if we subconsciously suspect that they're full of shit, we look to people who are willing to fake it and demonstrate value when we're insecure ourselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 08:14 PM
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Don't know what that is.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 06:23 PM
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Yeah but that isn't necessarily the same as roles. They don't believe that a woman is obligated to act in a particular way because she's a woman and that's just what women are meant to do. I mean, they're confused as shit anyway, so on one hand they reject being told what to do... unless it's the TERFs themselves telling women how to behave, but they'd completely deny that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 06:18 PM
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Makes you less horny and apparently less motivated in general. Personally, I cannot stand TRP because I love porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 06:10 PM
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Never but my mom says I'm autistic all the time. You're weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 06:09 PM
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Terps resent male gender role expectations, Terfs resent female gender role expectations But TRP believes in gender roles whereas Terfs don't. Completely the opposite. Both groups commonly express distaste toward pornography For completely different, unrelated reasons. Hardcore Terps tend to eschew women and "go their own way" MGTOW isn't really TRP. Plenty of way too far gone RPers who aren't MGTOW. Most of the things you've listed aren't similarities anyway, they're direct opposites. They're r…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 06:03 PM
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What the fuck are you some kind of subconscious voice in my head. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 05:41 PM
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I know for a fact my husbands "concern" forme is based entirely in his sense that i am one of his possessions and hes EXTREMELY protective of his possessions, extremely, like a dragon is protective of its hoard. he literally has zero human empathy, he relates to all other humans as if they are NPCs in the video game hes playing of his life. And is he a person that is particularly open to being vulnerable? I get that there are other reasons to stay with a woman, but this is a major one. i think t…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 04:22 PM
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Firstly, I don't expect you to agree with me, literally nobody does, not even on TRP. Whatever, it's my opinion. Well empathy is not particularly well understood, at least not affective empathy, as opposed to cognitive empathy. I contend that real 'love' is basically a particularly visceral kind of empathy, probably what psychologists called 'empathetic concern'. Men have developed this ability because it kept men with women to raise the kids (as well as men generally having a submissive nature)…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 04:14 PM
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No, I'm serious, why else would men ever stay with women?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 03:11 PM
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Nope, this is just chicks, men actually do.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 09:53 AM
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Sure, but they don't need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 09:29 PM
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If you're a woman you're not going to have a hard time finding someone to have sex with you. Most married women who cheat presumably cheat with someone new rather than someone they used to fuck back when they were in college.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 08:42 PM
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Indirectly I guess but never cold approached directly. I've had a stranger ask for my number for a girl, and I've had girls strike up conversation with me on the bus for no reason when I wasn't even sitting next to them but I don't think I've ever been straight up hit on in the way you're describing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 08:06 PM
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No, you just don't get it, probably you aren't trying hard enough to because it's really not that difficult to understand what I'm saying.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 06:09 PM
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I'm not talking about your actions, I'm talking about your mind. You don't decide how you respond emotionally because in that moment that's basically what you are. If you're sad about something, you don't decide to try to be happy, you become a sad person who is trying to be happy. You aren't in control of how you respond to anything, not from your third person perspective of yourself, which is completely flawed. You can only decide how you act in response to an event, or action, or idea or what…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 03:08 PM
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No they don't, they put themselves in certain environments, they don't get to choose how they respond to that environment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/08/16 10:37 AM
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Observe implies that you saw them in real life. No it doesn't. What else is there to say? It doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 10:20 PM
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I didn't mention 'real life'.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 10:15 PM
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I like Camus, but not really that much. I find him too depressing in general, but I'm a french speaker so reading his work has been pretty much mandatory for me. I'm less familiar with Sartre. I think I read one play he did but that's it. I really ought to read some more of him. I'm an Alan Watts fanboy. I like his humor and his approach towards philosophy.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 10:07 PM
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They're Disney films, the evil women are deliberately depicted as being less good looking because we subconsciously associate physical ugliness with inner ugliness. I mean, Maleficent from Sleeping Beauty is meant to be very attractive, it's just that the way they depict her to exaggerate her inner ugliness makes her less attractive physically to us. In the live action remake from 2014 she's played by Angelina Jolie, hardly 'unfuckable'. What's your point with the 'fuckable' and 'unfuckable' dif…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 09:58 PM
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Are you an existentialist? Don't know what that is. Am I someone who is interested in existentialism? I guess...? I like philosophy but I'm more interested in Buddhist philosophy than anything else, I don't spend much time thinking about the point of life frankly. I don't think he sees the importance you place on authenticity. I'm a reformed bullshitter, so I know what I'm talking about. It's not a positive life to live. If you're a really insecure person like I was it's very easy to get into a …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 09:47 PM
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Observation and my own experience as a bullshitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 09:37 PM
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It's not vulnerability that makes you unattractive to her, it's weakness and insecurity. They are different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 09:36 PM
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https://www.google.co.uk/?gfe_rd=cr&ei=EJaYU-3jE4TR8gfC6IHgCw#q=female+disney+villains
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 09:35 PM
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Difficult question tbh. Sincerity and responsibility would be the two words I would choose in particular that define masculinity but there are many other facets to it. Masculinity is also kind of about extremity, wild ambition and fortitude.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 09:34 PM
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should have done is not change the way he acts or how he presents what he’s like at all, but instead work on becoming less insecure (e.g., “uncool”) while still somehow remaining the same guy who acts kind of the same I'm not saying the latter. I'm not saying that the person cannot change, because everyone changes as a result of their life experiences, I'm saying that the person has to behave authentically. People do change, sometimes people change a lot but that isn't the same as pretending to …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 08:47 PM
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Social awkwardness is just a lack of social grace. How socially graceful you are isn't a measure of how likable you are necessarily. and some people will care more and others will care less. If you're socially awkward chances are the people you actually like are the ones that will care less. You can lack social grace but not be insecure about it, and you can still be confident about your likability regardless of that. Like I said, social awkwardness is charming to some people, to a lot of people…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 08:29 PM
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the goals are for these things to begin to come naturally. Yes, the goal is for this deceitful behavior to become instinctive but the goal is not to be authentic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 08:22 PM
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I know what TRP is about, I was just interested in your experience and opinions, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 07:29 PM
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It's partially about breaking things down into steps that can be easily digested and teaching that way. Like what? It's partially about understanding human nature. And you're sure that TRP is correct about human nature? I "got it" when I was younger, but as I aged and got out of the game, I forgot what I knew and/or stopped doing what I did intuitively. And in your opinion TRP is taking you back to this?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 07:11 PM
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So it's about motivation?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 07:05 PM
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Social awkwardness is too heavily used as an excuse for unattractive behavior. The problem is that social awkwardness often comes hand in hand with insecurity and a lack of confidence, and all three of these things are different. You can be socially awkward but still be confident, and you can definitely be socially awkward and still be secure in yourself. Having great social skills is a plus for sure, but social awkwardness itself isn't a killer, it's the insecurity.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 07:05 PM
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The whole thing is about teaching behavior. Let's take shit-tests for example. They teach you how to 'pass' shit-tests by putting on certain behavior. It is plain and clear in the post that this is exactly what they're talking about. This is entire thread is talking about how you should act* in order to make women more attracted to you, this is absolutely undeniable. For example, it says: When you ignore them it shows that you are unfazed by what they are doing which of course sparks attraction …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 07:02 PM
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You ever actually been the man? It's pretty fantastic. Same with picking up women at parties? It's overrated, it's basically like cocaine. Feels good briefly, very unsustainable, ultimately an empty high. I bet you're the type of kid who laughs at the frat guys for being insecure and whatnot but secretly wishes he was included. How much are you willing to bet? Want to be the life of the party? But 'life of the party' is behavior, it isn't actually the personality. You're not even disagreeing wit…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:58 PM
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Definitely isn't, I think there is some confusion.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:54 PM
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What I meant by that is that you only really gain anything from a connection with someone, however brief, by being authentic. I'm not talking about gaining confidence. I'm just talking about having connections with people, experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:45 PM
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And everything that makes TRP unique and notable are the points I'm talking about, and they are extremely prevalent. Anything to do with manipulation and deceit, thinking through social interactions etc. These are all very significant RP points.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:43 PM
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Why is it embarrassing bud? Can you not see? Anyone who goes to parties to gain social status and bitches is desperately insecure. Unfortunately, part of what makes up their insecurities is their insecurity so they won't admit that :( No, because you diverting the discussion with some nonsense out of left field is irrelevant to what we're talking about. Not at all, you said I could be whoever I want to be, but within reason. So what's the limit and why does the limit exist? I have a hunch that t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:41 PM
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Did you quote the right part of my post?... Not really relevant to what you're saying. same thing with being an awkward insecure person. you go out and BS everyone into thinking you are cool... and then you get enough confidence and realize that you actually are... It's perfectly normal for this to happen, but you're implying that it's a necessary step. This is really about realizing that you don't actually have to pretend to be someone else to be liked or be cool or whatever, but it's certainly…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:38 PM
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So holding in a fart is okay because that's socially acceptable behavior. Last warning. If you continue to misrepresent my argument I'm going to cut this discussion short and leave you to stew in your own smug idiocy. Being reserved isn't the same as pretending to be someone else. This is very easy to understand. I would submit that men putting their best foot forward (e.g., hiding the fact that they’re uncool and putting on an attractive front) when trying to pick up women is so normal and so s…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:35 PM
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The red pill says lift, read and go out and practice picking up chicks all the fucking time. That's what most of the advice amounts to. You're being deliberately disingenuous, there is far more to TRP than this. This is standard advice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:28 PM
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Successful as in gaining status and bitches. That's so embarrassing. Who says to act like a clown? Just another way of saying 'ridiculous performer'. Did you miss the "within reason" part? It has to be somewhat believable. Why? So it fits in with your argument?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:28 PM
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And also that inauthentic behavior has the ability to help create experiences in which authentic confidence can be developed. Sure, really just in the sense that it can show you that you don't need to be a giant fake. I mean I was that way before because I had serious insecurities and eventually it just became too exhausting and that led me to feel more confident and secure in who I was, but in and of itself it's not useful.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 06:26 PM
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but concealing the fact that you're a socially awkward introvert is cheating? Let's just first clarify that you are the one using the word cheating as a juvenile attempt to dumb down my argument. If you pretend to be an extroverted, confident guy when you aren't then yes, you won't really get anything out of the interaction because you aren't being natural. The only way to hide your social awkwardness without replacing it with something else is to just not get into social interactions. Besides, …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:43 PM
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It is a common discussion tactic to intentionally parrot another person’s viewpoint back at him using more colorful language and a more exaggerated position than he actually stated, in an attempt to illustrate for him how ludicrous his stance is, hoping he will revise it. It’s also entertaining to onlookers that read the exchange in the future. Well you might want to reconsider that tactic, because it only works if what you're saying actually has any relevance to what I'm saying, which it doesn'…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:37 PM
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Nobody is willing themselves to do anything. Of course they are, isn't this the point of 'fake it till you make it'? They're taking steps to change themselves for the better. Vague. What the fuck do you think goes on over at the red pill? What do you think they say? This is an incredibly vague, pointless question.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:32 PM
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Lmfao. Ok. So you're a shy dude. You're about to go to a party and you're nervous. What's a more effective strategy, to just be yourself and eventually have a good time later on when you get comfortable, or act like your extroverted friends and have a better time earlier on? Sure you're "inauthentic", but you're going to be more successful and that success is what will breed confidence and instill the behaviors you need to feel comfortable in that setting. My advice would be to stop over-thinkin…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:31 PM
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What makes someone natural? Just acting authentically and sincerely. Not pretending to be more confident, or more interesting etc. than you actually are. If someone developed lack of self confidence because their parents abandoned or abused them, or they were cheated on, or lied to, or bullied in school, wouldn't the lack of self confidence be unnatural? No, why would it be? Is taking steps to correct that behavior unnatural? Of course not. Because when you do a behavior, and get positive reinfo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:17 PM
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How do you stop being shy? Go out of your way to talk to people. How do you combat ugliness? Go to the gym. How do you combat boringness? Go do things. At first you may seem out of your element, because you are. And then you continue to become more comfortable until your anxiety dissipates. That is solving the problem. Sure, but this is not the argument. TRP just says to bypass the awkward stage by pretending that you're supremely confident. There's no 'bypass', what is that rubbish? The only wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:11 PM
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But you're not in control of your personality, you simply put yourselves into certain environments and situations, that doesn't support your argument at all. Sure, if you want to become tougher you might join a boxing gym and you will probably become tougher but you don't become tougher by willing yourself to become tough or pretending to be tough, you become tough through experience. If you're pretending to be confident in social situations, you're only going to reinforce that you can pretend t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:05 PM
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I think we agree on at least that much. If you can't get laid, you're not a badass. If you can get laid, then there's probably at least one or two badass things about you. If you can't get laid, you're not attractive. What does being badass have to do with anything? You are substituting in words that aren't relevant to the argument. If lots of women want to have lots of enthusiastic sex with you, that is a sign that you may have a great life. No, it is a sign that you are attractive. You can be …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 05:00 PM
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But when you start getting positive feedback from forced confidence, it creates a positive feedback loop, and the confidence can become natural. But what are you becoming confident about? Your ability to feign confidence? How are you becoming confident in acting authentically if you never actually are?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 04:46 PM
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You're arguing that personality is set in stone, and something is either natural or it isn't, and if it isn't then you'll never feel confident in doing it unless you put on a front. That's bullshit. No, I'm not, you just don't understand the nuance of what I'm saying, and it's not even very difficult. Personality does change, but it changes as a result of experience and personal growth, not because you've decided to change it from a third person perspective. My analogy stands. I was an unnatural…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 04:19 PM
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If myself and numerous other guys are saying the same thing, don't you think there is some truth to it? Or are you just gonna put your fingers in your ears and pretend everything we say must be a lie if it doesn't conform to your experiences? Yeah, doesn't TRP also put their fingers in their ears and pretend that everything that women says must be a lie because it doesn't conform to their experiences? What people say can be interesting, but don't get pissy at me for not taking you at your word w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 04:15 PM
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It's a mistake to assume that every single person is equally worthwhile and equally fuckable. Are you suggesting that I said this? If so, again, I don't appreciate the strawman arguments. To the rest, since I don't need to quote. I have never suggested that sex is guaranteed for anyone, however considering that the majority of people out there are generally unhealthy, physically, mentally, and/or spiritually unless you're really hideous it's not difficult to get laid if you're a healthy man. Of …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 04:08 PM
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They're taught to put women on a pedestal and treat them better. Did you miss my point? What point? You don't seem to have a point? Am I completely blind? Am I incapable of observing society or do I have to take what you're saying at your word, even if you're not being particularly truthful? Being yourself is shit advice. Absolutely awful advice to anyone wondering how to get women. This is generally the opinion of insecure men who were never able to be themselves in the first place. TRP teaches…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 03:48 PM
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You should've just said that in a better manor Will [this one](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ac/Bia%C5%82ystok,_Pa%C5%82ac_Branickich_(pn-wsch) do? Just because something doesn't come naturally doesn't mean it can't feel natural after awhile. Catching a football didn't come natural to me, but after years of practice I could catch everything. This is a laughably poor analogy that completely misses the point. Of course, pretending to be confident also might not come easily to yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 03:45 PM
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No, you don't get it. Being sincere and natural isn't the same as spilling out every single one of your thoughts and feelings. It's not about the behavior, as much as it is about the motivation and drive behind that behavior. I'm a fairly reserved person IRL, so I generally don't talk about my feelings or all of my thoughts but that's because I don't want to, not because that is a 'better' way to act, it's just how I am. Chasing sex when pretending to be someone else (someone more interesting, m…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 03:41 PM
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I always do, it's perfectly natural behavior. It's not because I was taught to, it's because I'm always blinded by their lusty, feminine allure.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 03:33 PM
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Most guys were taught to treat women extra nice and special. Little boys are taught to be gentle with little girls. They are not indoctrinated into worshiping women. "oh, you just have to be really nice and be yourself and she will like you" Which is actually not bad advice if you're attractive enough to her, but unfortunately 'being yourself' is not something that comes easily to most men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 03:32 PM
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Yeah, so?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 03:31 PM
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Fuckin adopt me. You're the best haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 03:30 PM
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You've confused the point. If it starts becoming instinctual to be unnatural then it's still not natural.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 03:29 PM
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Of course.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 03:28 PM
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If Joe would hit the gym, pick up an interesting hobby or two These are good things. My question is, why wasn't Joe doing these things before? Is he depressed or something? and stop trying to be so goddamn open and authentic with women Two things to say. Firstly, ha, authentic? All these 'nice guys' and pre-RP guys aren't being sincere and open with women, they're shy and nervous and insecure as fuck so they hide how they feel and what they're thinking. It's a RP myth that everyone before was so…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 03:28 PM
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"own your shit, run your family, act like a masculine man again and your wife will love it." Guess what? She does love it. This is already really obvious. "Seriously, muscles are one of the primary guidelines of attractiveness for women. Followed by lack of body fat. Even if you're getting good sex, sex will be infinitely better when you're in shape." There is literally no way you didn't know before that being in shape and having muscles made you more sexually attractive. I would ask if you'd be…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 03:12 PM
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Shit, even pretending to be confident can eventually end up making you more confident, at least in the short term. Exactly, until you realize that your basis for confidence was completely bullshit. Nobody is the same all the time. You won't act the same at work as you do at the club. Of course, but I'm still acting naturally. RPers do not act naturally. TRP helps you fine tune the personality you need to pick up women at a club or other places. Exactly, a fake persona. Nothing to do with persona…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 03:11 PM
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It's acting in an unnatural, inauthentic way. No one picks and chooses who they'll become, that's nonsense, they become that person as a result of their experiences. People grow as people, but TRP isn't about personal growth, it's about creating characters to play.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 03:06 PM
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I'm saying that he's not being entirely honest, even if it's unconsciously, about his experience with women. I'm arguing that I think this because I don't actually believe it's true that our society teaches men to put women on a pedestal and that this is simply a RP fantasy and the natural behavior of men. It's very convenient for RPers to believe that they've been duped by society but it doesn't really stand to reason. You would have to be willingly blind to the real world to put women on a ped…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 02:57 PM
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None of this stuff is exclusive to TRP and is all very vague and wishy washy. Not being a doormat is advice found everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 02:52 PM
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First, you assume that because a man acts aloof/stoic when picking up girls to get laid, that this means the guy is an emotionless robot that doesn't actually experience and enjoy emotions. That's stupid. Of course he does. If he's picking and choosing which emotions he gets to express then he is an emotional robot, or rather, he is a person pretending to be an emotional robot. He just doesn't gush about his feelings to women he wants to fuck Why would you do that anyway? Being natural and authe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 02:51 PM
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Bullfuckingshit. People lie to themselves and then to everyone else because it benefits their ego to do so, but when their lies don't measure up with observation it's fine to call them out on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 02:41 PM
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It's not really pretending if you make it part of your personality. But again, this is operating with the false understanding that you can change your personality from a third person perspective. When you pretend to be confident or whatever you aren't actually becoming a confident person, you're becoming a person who feigns confidence and thinks that he is a confident person for it. Pretending to be confident will not eventually make you a confident person, it will eventually make you very good …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 02:38 PM
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So, how is that productive to the conversation? Everyone already knows this and this sub is not about picking a particular ideology and using tactics to win arguments, even if it might appear that way on the surface.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 01:57 PM
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Now hold on, we can talk about self-improvement, but don't try to change the fact that you said that you can 'switch' versions of yourself. You very clearly demonstrated that you're pretending to be someone else because a switch is something that happens instantaneously, and you were arguing against a comment that was talking about acting like someone you're not. You can go ahead and retract that comment and put it in a frame of self-development, but don't try and claim that you were talking abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 01:50 PM
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Aww did I hurt your fee fees? :(
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 01:40 PM
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Bullshit, you weren't indoctrinated into putting women on a pedestal, this is nonsense. Pretty much everywhere outside of TRP also teaches you to think of them as people who are capable of good and bad, and how you couldn't see that before TRP just from life experience is beyond me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 01:36 PM
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But what are they fixing and how is it making them happier? How is pretending to be emotionless so they can pick up chicks making them happier?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 01:17 PM
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Oh fuck off no way you like Digable Planets please tell me you're kidding
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 10:29 AM
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Sometimes I'm happier taking the masculine role. I provide for half the bills, I do yard work, and take care of creepy crawlers. How is this masculine at all? Just because women are stereotyped in a certain way doesn't mean that these things are necessarily unfeminine. I mean, let's say you're a beauty consultant or something like that and you pay the bills, is that masculine? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 10:13 AM
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Are TRP guys genuinely happy? I highly doubt it. I suspect most of them are lying to themselves and everyone else. It's a temporary relief from complete misery but it's certainly not happiness. You're never going to be happy as long as you live your life in third person mode, pretending to be someone that you aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 10:09 AM
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There are no 'different versions' of you, this is nonsense. You're either being natural and honest or you're deceiving someone into believing that you're someone that you aren't, also known as 'acting'. Deceit is a feminine sexual strategy, not a masculine one. What kind of man admits to himself that he isn't good enough for sex so he has to cuck himself by getting some other imaginary person to fuck for him? A RP man I guess...
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/16 10:03 AM
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No I'm not. Average people do average jobs, what a revelation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 07:59 PM
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Yeah they do. Nurses are perfectly average people.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 07:37 PM
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No
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 06:54 PM
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No, I'm not but I could be if I wanted to. To be fair, if I wanted to do that I would have just become a doctor, but I don't, so there you go.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 06:33 PM
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It is. Any mediocre person can be a nurse, so no one cares.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 06:24 PM
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I'm pretty sure there is, Simon Baren-Cohen talks about it quite a lot. Plus, we're all sexual creatures. If you and I both have the same artistic curiosity and capability I would still outperform you because I also have a drive to use my abilities to have sex with attractive women. Men are generally driven to be better than women because we need to be if we want to get laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:45 PM
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Citation needed. Observation. Sorry for not being able to quote you an academic source saying that 'women are shit at being direct and assertive'. You admit yourself that youre basing this assumption off of 5 year olds Uh, no I don't. since you admit that we raise our women to not be leaders starting when they're 5. No I don't. Can you stop putting words into my mouth? I said that we teach girls not to be bossy cunts when they're five years old. Bossy cunt isn't the same as leader. Though gender…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:42 PM
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I'm not even talking about IQ, I'm talking about drives and motivations which are very different. Men are geared towards certain roles and women towards others.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:26 PM
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What are you even talking about? That was one of my most civil posts.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 05:24 PM
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How is it useless? Do we need to stop raising children well now? I wasn't just talking about bodies. Men and women have different brains and are suited to different roles in general. No one is saying that you shouldn't be given a job based on merit but the idea that men and women have equal merit for every role is bullshit that you and other feminists have pulled out of your asses. It doesn't take hundreds of years to fix the problem, it happens in a matter of generations. Millennial women have …
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 04:18 PM
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They are easy. Hard work, maybe, but it's still easy to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 02:37 PM
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I've experienced hostility in the real world. SO HAS EVERYONE ELSE
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 01:02 PM
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Bullllshiiiiiit, you sit online all day looking for this content. Try the real world if you want to see how society actually functions. Stop trying to bullshit me.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 12:29 PM
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No not really, I don't hate women at all. I recognize that men and women are actually quite different, instead of blindly assuming that they're the same, like you do.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 12:28 PM
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That's because you're looking for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 11:41 AM
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This is a stupid, meaningless comment for so many reasons.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 11:23 AM
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Lmao, did you actually just say that?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 10:22 AM
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Why was it necessary to prohibit women from voting? Because women make horrible decisions when they vote, generally. They overwhelmingly vote for the Left. They're the people who hold up 'refugees welcome' signs with butterflies and rainbows on them. Of course, there are some intelligent women but they overwhelmingly have a negative effect on politics. To bar them from certain jobs? Because women with brains needed to make babies. What's happening now is that smarter women are going into the wor…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 10:16 AM
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WOMEN WANT THIS Yes, women want to sit around doing nothing (sorry, doing 'housework') all day while their husband provides everything they need for them. They have made the choice to do this and they are not entitled to money because they chose to sit around doing nothing all day.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 10:05 AM
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This is the exact same thing for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 09:57 AM
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But they were historically disenfranchised for completely different reasons and in completely different contexts, so you're making a pointless comparison. Feminists love to pretend that they're an oppressed group just like black people were, but the innumerable advantages that they have over men seem to contradict that. The truth is that no one hated women or wanted to put them down because they saw them as sub-human, it was simply that back then it was necessary to have certain gender roles. It…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 09:56 AM
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comes from the idea that women are mothers and nurturers while men are warriors and providers -- this is a concept that many Feminists want to do away with. But why? This makes sense. Men and women are not equal and it's far more practical to have complementary sexes than fake equal ones. People talk about the idea of men and women not being equal like it's some extraordinary injustice. It's not, it's just the way things are. That doesn't mean that women don't have reasonable issues to bring up,…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 09:49 AM
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being raised as indirect/unassertive/passive aggressive communicators (in turn contributes to lack of respect from peers) You're raised to not be bossy, because little girls are bossy and it doesn't work out well for them. Women are naturally quite poor at being direct and assertive, because they think it means 'be bossy' like when they were five years old. They're taught not to act like that because it has negative consequences for them, and guess what, it still does. We should keep teaching wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 09:45 AM
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it just so happens that the problems men face tend to be focused around sex and family whereas the problems women face are spread more across the board. What is this nonsense? There are loads of issues that affect men that have nothing to do with sex and family. The entire legal system is biased against us, our controversial opinions are criminalized, we (not me obviously) do the more dangerous jobs, we receive endless scrutiny and misandry from the media and women as a whole. Who are you kiddin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 09:31 AM
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Which they aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/16 09:26 AM
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Who said anything about love?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 09:32 PM
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It's like saying 'be yourself', just gotta stop trying to act in a certain way in order to impress people or to avoid judgment or whatever. If the first things you think about for why you think you ought to be happy are that you look good on paper then it's because you're not really interested in living, just in racking up achievements. You're more concerned with people thinking you're great than having a real connection with anyone.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 08:53 PM
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Of course he's not a super-genius or the guy who's going to make everything right but I think people are completely justified in having confidence in him. He's the only one who actually addressed head-on the specific issues that ordinary people have and he's demonstrated that he has the strength and the courage to go against the establishment in order to see that these issues are corrected. I think Trump will create some international tension but frankly, I doubt it will have make any serious im…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/08/16 08:38 PM
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He's not going to, through some feat of extraordinariness, provide the solutions to America’s problems. Of course not but he's a far better candidate than Clinton is. Trump is going to be the person at the helm who hopefully leads the US in a better direction. His IQ is irrelevant. The idea of Trump being mediocre in general is absolutely insane. He's successfully leading a Republican revolution, and a cultural revolution too. People worship him and he's made himself a household name. That's all…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 12:42 PM
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simply because she has a vagina Don't think there's any proof of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 11:19 AM
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Me too! I'm torn between writing in proper English and having to look at the squiggly red lines underneath words spelled correctly, and begrudgingly writing in bastardised 'American' English, which probably explains why it's not immediately obvious.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 11:00 AM
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Well that's different, that's more like 'don't be an asshole'. The 'be a nice guy' advice is normally reserved for incels, and it's not really advice at all. Women know that these guys are hopeless and any genuine advice they give to be more attractive is generally met with further moaning which they don't want to have to put up with. Of course women don't really care to help these guys out, they barely want to help themselves and it's really obvious, so why even bother trying to? RPers like to …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 10:48 AM
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I'll probably vote for the UKIPs. I liked Corbyn for a while but I've been and had been very disillusioned with the Left for some time. I like a lot of lefty policies, especially on environmental issues and droogs and some other things, but ultimately they have the wrong idea and I don't think it's very healthy for the country. There are many issues that I vehemently disagree with them on, and they are huge issues like the economy and immigration. I could never vote for Theresa May's government …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 10:31 AM
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'Just be a nice guy' is advice that women give to men that have nothing to really offer women, so they figure that they might as well be nice about it anyway. If you have an interesting personality you'll never just be told to 'be nice'.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 10:26 AM
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All (healthy) women are dominant.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 10:22 AM
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He's running for President of the US, possibly the most unique and controversial candidate ever (?) and you're saying he's just normal. Jesus Christ, Bernouts are so deluded.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 09:54 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBcWKaF2t2g
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 09:54 AM
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Not saying what you said isn't true, just that you're a bullshitter day to day, just bullshitting yourself and everyone around you. Just endless bullshit, forgetting about the real deal.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 09:52 AM
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Holy shit, how fucking dumb can anyone be? He's done everything he's ever wanted to do and you're calling him normal? He's a household name, running for President of the most powerful country in the world, and you're like, 'nah he should have just invested all his money and done nothing'. See, that's why you're ordinary, because you take the path of least resistance. Everyone in the whole world knows his name and you're here telling me that he isn't really a success. Omg. Seriously lmao, Trump t…
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 12:28 AM
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Stop being a bullshitter. Solved.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/08/16 12:13 AM
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Trump is about far more than money.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 10:19 PM
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Uh no, it's not all opinion. Alpha/beta was originally about type A/type B personalities, which is fairly established in psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 09:38 PM
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Does lying imply intent? No, you just don't understand the difference between guilt and shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 08:43 PM
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The idea of 'amused mastery' and being 'stoic' as what makes a person alpha is a TRP beta fantasy. Trump is: confrontational aggressive a leader insecure wildly ambitious and driven sincere controversial self-determined These are all real alpha traits, or type A traits. It has nothing to do with SMV, or how successful you are, or how confident you are, or how 'stoic' you are, or any of these things. Donald Trump exudes all of these traits. He's the first person that I think of when I think of th…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 08:26 PM
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ughh
/r/askTRP11/08/16 08:04 PM
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Having charisma isn't the same as being extroverted.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 07:49 PM
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Ur a fag if you don't love puss tho.
/r/askTRP11/08/16 07:42 PM
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Yeah why do you even care about D Trump's giant dingaling? What the fuck aren't you doing out there lifting weights and SMASHING pussy.
/r/askTRP11/08/16 07:10 PM
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Justin Trudeau is a beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 06:10 PM
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Okay I won't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 05:08 PM
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You clearly don't understand what alpha/beta means if you thinks alphas aren't insecure. It's his insecurity that drove him to all of his successes. Trump is the archetypal alpha male.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 05:07 PM
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I think he just has a tendency to say whatever he's thinking, regardless of whether he means it or not.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 05:05 PM
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For god's sake I can't keep explaining this in every thread, keep up.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 04:52 PM
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Because they don't feel empathy, which is a prerequisite for feeling guilt.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 03:39 PM
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This is a much less bullshit sub than RPW was/is, nice one.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 11:45 AM
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I agree that responsibility is the key factor, but I don't think women are irresponsible because they aren't punished. I think they're irresponsible because of their purely narcissistic nature, their inability to 'feel' the world beyond themselves. When a man does something bad and knows it, most of the time he feels guilty for having done it. Women don't feel guilt, they only feel shame, so when they don't feel shame for doing something bad they just do it.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/16 10:23 AM
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It goes not only against feminist dogma, but also against what men blindly believe. Everyone knows it's true deep down but few people will properly acknowledge it. Mostly you just hear about it in the form of guys joking around. "Yeah, I can't come out, my wife/girlfriend won't let me" etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 10:53 PM
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Anecdote, obviously, and you know this, because there would never ever be such a study. Even if you knew that I was right, you know that such a study could never exist. This is a bloop cop out.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 09:31 PM
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I don't even know what an omega is meant to be. All I know is alpha and beta, as in type A and type B. I understand sigma to mean an introverted, thinking (what's the MBTI thing, INTP? INTJ? Not sure) type A, but it's still a type A. It would be better if we completely divorced the idea of SMV from alpha/beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 08:27 PM
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Wow, the fact that men play the part of the leader and wear the pants in a relationship (you ever heard that expression?) is somehow breaking news to you? What rock did you crawl out from under? You really need me to give you a rundown of how male-female relationship dynamics played out historically, and still does in most non-post-feminist societies? I use a taxi driver analogy here. The taxi driver holds the wheel and leads the way for the passenger. Is the taxi driver the boss in this situati…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 08:21 PM
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There's nothing wrong with being beta, thank you for the reply.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 06:50 PM
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I can see that the dynamics of the act of sex, coitus, are lost on you. No need for me to clue you in if you're that far gone. So how she behaves during sex is exactly how the entire relationship works? Why? Got any reasoning behind that or is it just a convenient way of thinking for you? Also, it's not even really true what you're saying. She lets you lead for as long as it benefits her, but if it doesn't benefit her she's out, so that's not submission is it? A sexually attractive man IS mascul…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 06:38 PM
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That's news to me, and to every other living, breathing male who ever got his dick wet. How does getting sex imply that you're dominant? Tell me, go on. Sexually unattractive men are not masculine. Nonsense. Masculinity is arousing to a female in a sexually attractive man, but the idea that you can't be masculine unless you're attractive is just rubbish. You really think the majority of women want to fuck hardcore gang members? They don't. Yet my experience tells me otherwise. So you're saying y…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 06:03 PM
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First of all, women don't ever demonstrate deference, because women don't submit. So get that shit out of your head because you were wrong for even using 'women' and 'deference' in the same phrase without the word 'don't'. Women don't care how masculine a guy is if he is sexually unattractive. I don't give a fuck how masculine you are, women aren't going to clam up if you're unattractive to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 05:50 PM
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and dishes out her respect and deference according to the level of masculine pride inherent to the male Hah. Not even close.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 05:35 PM
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People completely misunderstand what alpha/beta is. It refers to type A and type B personalities, or at least, that's what it's meant to. There are plenty of successful, attractive, famous beta men.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 05:08 PM
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Female behavior. If you have a girlfriend, go up to her and stone-faced call her a slut and see how she responds.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 03:33 PM
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Sublime post.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 03:03 PM
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Doesn't change their instincts or nature. Men are more capable of physical and dominance on a societal level (not anymore though), but the majority of men are naturally submissive while all healthy women are naturally dominant-minded.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 02:34 PM
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Then again I think most people are at least somewhat insane, so if your insanity matches with another person's insanity you may click Mental illness isn't something innate like personality type. This is a myth that mentally ill people like to tell themselves, and they especially seem to like pretending that they and their partners are a great match because of their mental illness. In truth, the foundation of these relationships are fucked, they aren't the blue pill romance stories of two similar…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 12:22 PM
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So you're basically admitting that you have a feminine sexual strategy?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 11:18 AM
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Literally don't even bother. She's basically just a troll at this point with the lack of any substance her posts have to offer.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 11:15 AM
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Black people are better than white people at quite a few things though.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 11:15 AM
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But it doesn't matter how I describe myself to you cause you wouldn't believe me. No, you're right. I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 11:13 AM
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And serious question, no offence, but how unattractive are you? Be honest.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 10:58 AM
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I'm obsessed with him.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 10:54 AM
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Some people assume you are inferior or dumb by default. So? That's literally never stopped any intelligent, driven woman from succeeding at anything in modern society. When you prove them wrong, they dismiss it or call you a bitch. A moment later a man could say the same thing and be applauded for his intelligence/creativity/humor. This is largely a feminist myth. Most men are submissive and terrified of upsetting women. To make the man in your life happy, you pump yourself with drugs that simul…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 10:40 AM
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I'm not really talking about risk. It's just that women are driven to be dominant by default so will say and do things that make you feel uncomfortable, or emasculated, or challenged. I don't think there's any risk to it whatsoever, they're just not as afraid to rock the boat (with men that is). Conversations with most men are just very boring because they're submissive and bullshitters, which means they don't even give you a reason to call their shit out for what it is because they're inclined …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 10:25 AM
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Yes, empathetic concern is something I am just making up. Fuck you.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 10:20 AM
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Didn't like what I saw so I caused a bit of a commotion, whatever.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 10:19 AM
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In terms of pursuing their sexual imperative, yeah. If you could take a man and make him look exactly like a woman, who is roughly as attractive as him, he would find life much much easier. Okay, it might take some time to adjust, but it would absolutely be easier. The issue is that women face various other problems, but whether they make life less easy, instead of just less enjoyable, is up for debate. I mean, so what? People judge you more for dumb shit like your make-up, and you're the object…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/08/16 12:49 AM
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Men are better doesn't really mean anything unless you specify what they're better at. I actually don't think men are better at everything. My experience is that women generally have bigger balls than men do, at least with regards to socialization, and this makes them more challenging people. Most men are submissive bullshitters, which is not a good combination for personal growth. Women are massive bullshitters too, probably the biggest, but their inclination towards dominance means that someon…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 11:59 PM
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INTP, which I guess explains why I'm banned from TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 10:59 PM
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Man, you couldn't be more wrong. I have plenty of respect for intelligent women, you just aren't one of them. Of course I understood everything that you were saying, nothing you ever said was interesting or worthwhile. I've had this conversation a million times with average women who take everything so personally and make it a personal argument, so whatever, I can beat you at that too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 10:30 PM
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Therefore that part of the study can be used in a number of different ways to fit either of our arguments. GREAT, as long as we're actually having a debate on the matter I'm happy. It states that women that score high on level 2 also scored high in sympathy which correlates with selflessness and concern for others. Selflessness can be for selfish reasons though. I don't think that really counts as selflessness in the first place. Furthermore, you're basing your whole argument on a 28 number of w…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 10:14 PM
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I'm not getting mad, me calling sociopaths and psychopaths frauds has no relevance to the discussion and I'm not interested in discussing it. It was just an outburst. Who cares?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 09:53 PM
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I don't use words incorrectly, I apply them contextually. If I use a word incorrectly and I actually have then I have no problem accepting that I'm wrong. I have no problem accepting when I'm wrong whatsoever.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 06:52 PM
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Jesus, you're angry. Relax a little. And you're claiming women are hysterical? I'm not claiming women are hysterical, I'm claiming women are easily outraged, but whatever, fuck what words mean right? By the way, no one takes any of this less seriously than I do, I just like to do it properly. The conclusion of that whole paragraph pretty much says there's no significant result to determine that personal distress affects empathetic responding. Which was your whole argument ie women are selfish, c…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 06:39 PM
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I find it hard to take people like you seriously so my bad for not being able to be polite and non-sarcastic with my comments. Bullshit. You just have an inclination to respond with outrage when you hear something you don't like about yourself. Don't bullshit me, this isn't how intelligent women respond. How are you trying? The only thing you linked was the google books link, which doesn't even back up a lot of the assumptions you've made... It should have taken you to the page which shows that,…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 02:18 PM
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talking down to people because they won't accept your opinion as believable Not at all. It's the way you respond which makes you stupid, not because you disagree with me. . (Please do reply to my sarcasm about how im an immature, hysterical woman). We wouldn't be having this conversation now if you weren't. We'd actually be discussing the argument. If you want any credible theory in psychology, you need to provide evidence to back up your hypothesis. Hence why Freud is such a laughing stock with…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 01:56 PM
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I don't think you mean social skills as much as you mean having high SMV, because I'm not sure where social skills comes from. Very attractive people still mate-guard and still have to work to prevent their partners from cheating. You can't maintain sexual attraction for very long regardless of who you are.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 12:44 PM
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There are plenty of examples of different species that have a similar sexual strategy to us. In many insect species for example, the female eats the male after sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 11:34 AM
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Well I wouldn't sacrifice my life to raise and support her children. Since women are now perfectly capable of looking after themselves we should abolish all alimony and child support. All women see their children as theirs primarily, not the father's, but they pretend not to so they can get more resources. Expose them, make them do it all themselves. They don't get to have their cake and eat it too.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 11:33 AM
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I don't think it has anything to do with social skills. It's just due to the fact that people instinctively mate-guard.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 11:30 AM
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Literally every single thing you've said is based on your opinion. Literally every single aspect of psychology is based on opinion, given that it's not a science. Pulling stuff out your ass then thinking people should take you at your word. I literally just said I'm not claiming to be an authority. You can't get over the fact that I'm not saying that people should take me at my word. When people speak about empathy, they're 99% referring to cognitive empathy because that's what people understand…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 11:29 AM
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People are realizing that long-term monogamy just isn't natural, but lots of men just can't handle the idea of their partner cheating or fucking other guys. They pretend to believe strongly in traditional values because they think that if everyone did then they could lock a woman down for good. That's why they're tradcucks.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 12:37 AM
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Traditionalism is a cuckold fantasy in our modern society.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 12:16 AM
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I think the are desperate for male desire and approval. And this is unhealthy behavior in your opinion? Attaining female validation is a fundamental aspect of male sexuality, but is it even a healthy part of female sexuality or what?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/16 12:15 AM
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On the plus side, every bit of guilt and love I've felt up until now is resolved because that was a lie. I'm free. Pesky empathy, so glad I don't have that. I guess it is easier to make up sarcastic straw-man arguments instead of actually engaging your brain. Additionally, can't say I take Wikipedia as a serious enough source. First of all, this is not a university, and this idea that wikipedia is a semi-useless source of information is completely false. Secondly, I'm not trying to prove a parti…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 11:35 PM
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AWALT is not about women all behaving in the exact same way all the time, it's about them all having the same drives/sexual imperative, which will inevitably predict certain aspects of their behavior. For instance, not all women will cheat on their partners, and not all women will go for big, muscular men, and not all women will even be interested in men at all. Their core drives and motivations are all the same however, although I'm aware that what you define as 'core' is quite subjective. You …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 10:54 PM
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It's not adjusted, it's expanded. Do you believe that our entire understanding or empathy can be understood in ten words? If so, you definitely are nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 10:37 PM
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Well no I literally did. Empathy is a complex subject and you're insisting that the ten-word dictionary definition is what we should be using to discuss it. Are you nuts?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 10:28 PM
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What counter-argument is necessary? You've been overzealous in your application of a simple philosophical concept, and brought it up where it wasn't relevant, as I said before. I clicked your username and saw you posted on that sub, so I made a joke, big whoop. And no I'm not a RPer so don't bother.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 10:25 PM
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Literally nothing you say contradicts my point. This is the issue, because women are capable of affective 'empathy', it's just the drive behind it is inconclusive. If your answer to the question 'would you have felt better if you hadn't done it?' is no then you aren't proving me wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 10:15 PM
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Actually no I didn't, I reworded the definition of empathetic concern to fit the context of the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 10:12 PM
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Hypergamy is a reproductive strategy which wouldn't work if the rest of the society didn't adapt to it. And the meaningless statement of the day goes to...
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 09:26 PM
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No, I know exactly what you're talking about, you're just very eager to apply it in as many ways as you can without understanding when it's appropriate. Why would I attack you for being a woman? I have nothing against women, and it's much easier to attack you for your psuedo-intellectualism.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 09:22 PM
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I think you've been spending too much time in /r/badphilosophy and it's rubbing off on you. Yes, I know what you're describing, congratulations on getting into college. You've completely misapplied a philosophical concept, believing that I'm acting as an authoritative figure, mistaking authority with clarity, as opposed to just theorizing.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 09:15 PM
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Observation and theory. EDIT: Since your philosophy classes at college have obviously ended for the summer we can absolutely go back and forth on this. I'm sure you'll have the time.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 08:50 PM
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Have you heard of wikipedia? What you are describing is cognitive empathy. What I am describing is closer to affective empathy, but I'm hesitant to use that term because it describes an emotional response that is too general. The closest definition would probably be 'empathetic concern', but even that is lacking. Women do experience affective empathy, in the sense that they experience a great deal of emotional distress, but their response to their greater feeling of distress is actually narcissi…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 08:47 PM
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Are you sure? Have you considered that there may be different sub-groups of empathy or deliberation within psychology about what empathy is? Go check.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 07:27 PM
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You're not being very empathetic by assuming the way YOU feel and understand empathy is the only "real" or correct way. That's not what empathy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 06:09 PM
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You've misunderstood, as I knew every woman here would.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 06:09 PM
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My definition does fit the official definition, but the interpretation is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 06:07 PM
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Are you supposed to be the hilarious, sassy woman of the sub or something? What the fuck are you contributing?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 07:22 AM
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And I do have evidence. Every single time I have a discussion about this with women it confirms to me my theory.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 07:19 AM
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Psychology isn't a science.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 07:17 AM
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Because people confuse empathy with women's natural sensitivity and emoting. Women absolutely are more 'empathetic' in the way that you understand empathy to be, but the way you understand empathy is flawed. The big problem is that we have two meanings, but only one word to go around. My argument is not affected by dictionary definitions. What I will say is interesting is that the dictionary definition is relatively neutral between my understanding of the word and yours.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 01:09 AM
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I'm using the word fraud in a different way, and that's too complicated to get into, so let's leave it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 01:06 AM
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But that's what empathy means. This is what we're debating though. I'm saying that this isn't what empathy means. As I said to another poster in this thread, even the dictionary definition doesn't disagree with me necessarily, but that's just semantics anyway. Many psychopaths/sociopaths say they're superior to humans. Do you know why? Because they're frauds. They're the ultimate frauds and they disgust me.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 01:02 AM
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That's true, honesty can be deceptive, and it's also true that self-deception doesn't require intent. You're right there. However, sincerity is the opposite of deceitfulness, so someone who sincerely believes something and acts sincerely (i.e. says what he sincerely believes) is not acting deceptively. 'Deceptive' isn't the same as 'wrong'.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 12:56 AM
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Because you're sensitive and emotive, as women generally are. You recognize their pain and imagine feeling it, or you have a natural reaction to bad things, but this isn't the same as real empathy. It's always about how it relates to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 12:54 AM
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Absolutely not. Not once did I ever make any mention of reliance. There are too many people in this subreddit who display a disturbingly casual attitude towards precision of terms.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 12:45 AM
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It isn't the exact dictionary definition, no, but that doesn't change what I'm saying. The dictionary definition of empathy is not particularly useful to this discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 12:43 AM
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But this is just because you were wrong, not because you were trying to kid yourself. If you sincerely believe that something is correct then this isn't the same as being deceitful.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 12:41 AM
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Well funnily enough, the definition is described as the ability to 'understand and share the feelings of another'. Understanding and sharing aren't the same though, and how a person defines 'understanding' is also up for debate. How much can you really understand another person's feeling if you don't also share that feeling? I would say not really. My point is that appealing to semantics is not really going to help your argument here. PS. I'm not "deciding" that I'm not average. Life, experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 12:40 AM
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TiA has plenty of posts making fun of TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 12:30 AM
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I'm not outraged UT. "Chill" is my middle name lol. Yeah, don't bullshit me. I'll tell you something else for nothing, I ain't average lol. You don't get to decide that. But empathy doesn't imply that you are "responsible" for the feelings of another, only that you can put yourself in their position. Yes, this is exactly how a woman would describe empathy. Thank you for proving my point without making me jump through hoops.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 12:27 AM
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Very hard to describe to women. I would describe it as a visceral feeling of responsibility for another person's well being. It's literally feeling their emotions, not just being able to understanding their emotions and reflecting them in turn. Of course, average women will only be able to understand this in the context of their own experiences and will recklessly apply their misunderstanding of what I just said to them. This is why I prefer not to discuss this matter with women who are easily o…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/08/16 12:09 AM
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They handicap themselves. If you're a random guy using a cold approach on the general public, you're operating at the higher difficulty levels. Ah but there's a difference between being deceitful and being a dumbass.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 11:56 PM
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And once again only a woman would really understand empathy as being about 'understanding the feelings of others'.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 11:55 PM
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To quote some poster here I have a name :( OP, all of your emotions are real, it's just that your understanding of them is wrong. Women understand empathy from a more logical perspective, it is not a visceral feeling. Women aren't more empathetic than men at all, it's just that they're more emotive and sensitive so they cry at the thought of someone in suffering, but they aren't really empathizing with that person. This doesn't mean you're a bad person or that your emotions aren't real. Of cours…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 11:53 PM
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You think they make this decision totally irrationally, for no reason? They don't hope to gain anything out of such arrangements? Yup. If you understand the male sexual imperative it is extremely obvious that men are losing out. I'm not saying that men never operate in their best interests, just that it's within them to self-sacrifice. I thought your point was that shame specifically comes from external sources while guilt comes from internal expectations. Shame is about how you feel about yours…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 11:48 PM
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How is that deceptive?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 11:24 PM
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Well why don't you explain why it does then?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 09:40 PM
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Nope, no it doesn't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 09:24 PM
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I'll PM you in a bit, gotta go take a massive shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 08:46 PM
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I'm not remotely bitter.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 08:45 PM
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or keep doubters scared and worried of retaliation. Yes they do, some of them anyway. If TRP really was fucked up and bad for the health of everyone involved, where are all the people who were smart enough to pull out and tell everyone of their mistake? There are so many fat people, drinkers, drug-users, smokers etc. that also never stop doing what they're doing. TRP makes them feel good because it promises them hope, but it's an empty promise. I don't and never did really consider myself a RPer…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 07:43 PM
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No, that was just a joke.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 07:17 PM
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Well I don't bullshit people which makes it incredibly easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 07:17 PM
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That's true, it's never actually been good, but at least they didn't pull any punches. If I were you I'd look outside the established western sphere of psychotherapy and look elsewhere. Either engage your brain or find someone who actually will.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 07:15 PM
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This is what my university undergrad psychology course teaches.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 07:13 PM
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No it isn't. Remorse is remorse. Guilt is guilt. How can I be narcissistic when I think I'm pure scum. How can you be narcissistic when you think you're pure scum. It's all about you. You're describing shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 07:12 PM
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Because modern western therapy is fucking shit. Very very very very few people are just aberrations that are destined to mental health problems for their whole lives, even when people are genetically predisposed to it. The issue with women is that they don't have the courage or the drive to go and find the answers for themselves, and instead rely on other people to solve their problems for them, so they live in a perpetual state of existential victimhood. I mean are you really expecting psycholo…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 07:11 PM
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You're conflating guilt with shame. The shame you feel is purely narcissistic, whereas guilt is inherently selfless.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 06:55 PM
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Women are biologically incapable of empathy, which is why they can't really love or feel guilt. There's no need for any woman to really feel ashamed of this, it's not their fault. when I was a kid I was literally crying whenever I saw homeless people on the streets. Because homelessness is sad and women are generally much more sensitive and emotive, but that doesn't make it real empathy.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 06:49 PM
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No one is born asexual. You have underlying mental health issues. If you were actually a healthy human being and you considered yourself to be asexual then that might mean something, but there isn't a single 'asexual' person that isn't fucked up in the head in one way or another.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 06:46 PM
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I wonder when women will stop projecting their own lack of empathy onto men. It's like a last ditch effort for them to say 'fine, we don't care, but neither do any of you either!' This isn't to say that men are always angels obviously but if all men wanted was sex and would be fine with raping to get it, you would fucking know about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 06:44 PM
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Well I suppose there are different types of intelligence.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 06:27 PM
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A part of me kind of agrees but frankly TRP is wrong and full of neckbeard idiots. Neither bloops nor reds should really be given gold flairs because they're both wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 02:33 PM
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Because even dumb and mediocre guys can be capable of honesty. Mediocre intelligence women are by far the worst people to talk to about women's sexuality because they aren't smart enough to understand it but are smart enough to bullshit you about how they really feel and think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 01:58 PM
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Well yeah, why would it be about the man? Ultimate male sexual strategy is all about him. Optimally he's fucking a lot of women and investing as little as possible right? How is that selfless or not about him? It is all about him in this case, which is why it's interesting that so many men sacrifice that just to be dominated by one woman and never sleep with other women ever again. Everyone has shame. That's why men say things on TRP that they would never say irl, by their own admission. That is…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 12:08 PM
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What's your point? It's still the ultimate female strategy. It doesn't matter what stops most women from achieving it. Because it's not for the man, it's for herself because it makes her feel ashamed. It's still all about her. Sexual equal opportunists? Well in this context, yes, but it's the same across the board. TRP provides examples of this happening in the feminist media fairly often. Yes but the feminist media isn't really representative of women as a whole. I never said it didn't happen, …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 11:29 AM
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Shame. If the gain doesn't outweigh the shame then they won't do it. What do hamster wheels have to do with anything? Why do women have to change them? Not change, charge. It's very important for most women that they feel like they're being good people and are being equal opportunists etc. which is why completely flagrant attempts to dominate over the male sexual imperative don't happen that often, because they could never justify it, but when presented with actual evidence of gynocentrism their…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 11:02 AM
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Dat science tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 10:35 AM
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RPW are the opposite of misogynists. You could only think that if you actually thought they believed any of their bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 10:32 AM
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What's your point? Most women are not capable of doing this and so don't. Women also have to find a way to charge their hamster wheels, which is a problem for them, but it's for them, not because they actually give even the slightest shit about men and what men might want.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 10:29 AM
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Only intelligent women are good sources of information on female sexuality, anything less than that is useless, regardless of whether they're bi or straight or lesbian. Intelligent women, in my experience, have less time for bullshit and so they won't try to bullshit you, but all women are naturally driven to bullshit, regardless of their sexual orientation.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 10:26 AM
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Nonsense. Total nonsense. Women always pursue their best perceived option. It might not actually be their best option, because they might not be that smart, but it will always be what they see as their best option. Plus if he's a top male his wife and hoes could probably do better than him Wot? but if they choose to be loyal they're compromising. If they choose to be faithful*, not loyal. The man is the one optimizing his strategy. Yeah, alpha/type A males will optimize their strategy, but that …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 10:10 AM
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Honestly, not really. I am confident that I could survive a marriage, especially because all my relationships are basically open relationships (I just want her to use protection and operate on an unspoken don't ask don't tell policy). The thing is that I just don't want to. I can't stand spending long periods of time with the same woman and have always been very independent. I don't see any reason why there should be some artificial lock on any relationship that I have. If I want to stay with on…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/08/16 12:42 AM
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Literally the worst character in the show. If I wanted to watch a miserable married woman play the victim all the time I would just go talk to my mother.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 10:53 PM
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Also, one point that we haven't really addressed is the fact that, yeah porn for men is huge and makes up a large part of the internet, but does that mean it's not shamed? In the UK a hugely popular (or it was) magazine was pressured and shamed into taking out their famous page 3 picture, which was just a topless girl. Porn is all over the internet because there's a demand for it but that definitely doesn't mean that it isn't shamed.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 10:49 PM
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The issue is most women don't enjoy sex outside of commitment, but many feel they must in order to ultimately get what they want. This is a good point but it has little to do with the argument in that case. There's no societal pressure, it's her own internal insecurity that drives her to do it. They get off from the idea of women enjoying pain because it pleases him, or that her pleasure is a direct extension of his. Many women are happy to indulge this idea because they want to be liked/desired…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 10:42 PM
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The ante has been upped as such that many women are expected to have sex with a partner before getting commitment from him. This isn't really true. Men complain a lot but society definitely doesn't shame women for not fucking a guy without commitment. That's just bitter men whining. the indulgence of unfettered male fantasy is de-prioritizing women's sexual pleasure or even comfort in favor of men's. Healthy men actually struggle to get aroused unless the woman is enjoying it. This is kind of a …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 10:24 PM
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You mean the porn that women get paid very well for? Every pornstar who makes a film does it because she perceives a benefit for doing so. It is not at the expense of the woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 10:20 PM
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at any given time you can have th ebalance get out of whack towards on sex's optimal strategy or the other's This isn't true, women always follow their optimal strategy. Women will never sacrifice their sexual imperative for the male's, however beta males will readily do this. The balance must always favor the woman in one way or another or she simply won't be interested. Sure, there are rich men who get to fuck as many women as they want while their wife stays at home and have to remain monogam…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 07:40 PM
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We are two peas.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 07:30 PM
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What does that have to do with male sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 07:13 PM
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Our modern society is set up to accommodate female sexuality, and so is considered civilized, or 'socialized' as you put it. Anything that benefits the male at the expense of the female is considered antisocial... anything, whereas our now liberated society now puts the female sexual imperative ahead of the male one. This is because women are naturally dominant and most men are naturally submissive but that's for another thread.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 07:01 PM
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You don't need big muscles to throw rocks hard enough to kill an animal. The big gym bro muscles that women are attracted to have far more to do with protection than hunting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 06:35 PM
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Well yeah, our muscles are designed to do a lot of stuff, I was just giving one example of how people hunt that doesn't involve being totally jacked. You don't have to have huge muscles to throw fast.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 06:30 PM
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Only if it benefits her. Male sexuality that benefits men at the expensive of women? HERESY!
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 05:59 PM
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I'd fuck from 6 and above. It's terrible that fatassery goes up to 5.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 01:29 PM
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Bad idea, you'll just end up with people thinking that a gold-flaired user's opinion holds more weight because they're some kind of authority on the matter, as is the case on TRP sub. The idea that anything other than the arguments put forward matters is antithetical to the values of any proper debate forum.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 12:16 PM
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For example, even though mucular people could be better hunters Not really, very rarely do you wrestle with animals as a hunter. The best hunters are lean, strong, fit, and smart. If you look at hunters in the African plains for example, they are built like long-distance runners because they chase their prey for hours until it succumbs to exhaustion. This is a more realistic view of primitive hunting than some giant, inefficient body beating the shit out of a deer. Muscularity is mostly about pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 11:24 AM
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I think you're still slightly misunderstanding my point, but I don't blame you because I'm not being very clear and I keep writing these replies the moment I wake up lol. Firstly, it doesn't really have much to do with fear. It's not that alphas are these fearless, confident, secure guys at all, and in fact it can be quite the opposite, especially with regards to confidence and insecurity. Fear is unavoidable for either type. The difference is a bit more subtle (but obviously how it manifests is…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/08/16 11:14 AM
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Because people don't want cheap social verification, they want female validation. If you're pretending to be someone else then the female is validating that someone else, not you. Men want women to look at them the same way that they look at married men because they want to be validated like the married guys are. Sex is about more than just spooging into a girl's vagina, it's about receiving validation as a man, and what kind of man makes such an obvious lie to trick a girl into sex?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 12:43 PM
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That's true but it takes an enormous amount of intellectual ability for a beta to do this. Simply understanding logically that sincerity is attractive isn't enough to make a beta a sincere person, he has to really understand why, by understanding that there's no better option in life for them than to do that, and then having the courage to do this. Alphas naturally tend towards sincerity and naturally have the courage to be that way, so they have no need to 'learn' it. Betas find sincerity very …
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 12:26 PM
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Calling posts you admitted were "dumb" "shitposts" isn't an insult. Shitposts are a category of posts, such as posts that are dumb. You said, or strongly implied (I can't remember exactly) that this thread was a shitpost. It isn't, and how dare you say that it is. Referring to your "mischievous" posts as cute isn't am insult either. It is basically. It's an attempt to make me feel stupid for having a bit of fun. We can argue this all day, but ultimately, I don't have the impression that you've r…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 01:05 AM
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I'm sick of fighting with rude, disrespectful people. And you said I was shitposting and trying to be cute/funny whatever in my sense of humor. So I think the same about you, especially because you removed my post without having given a good reason. Ok back to rules. If a police office pulls you over for speeding, and then notices you're smuggling heroin, he's not inconsistent or hypocritical for charging you with both offenses. That's what's happening here. No it's not at all what's happening h…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/08/16 12:12 AM
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Being overly anxious and/or insecure and/or demanding - traits often associated with type A - is a turn-off for most women It's interesting that you've mentioned this, because it's true. It's a myth that alphas are secure in themselves. They aren't, alphas are driven by their incredible insecurity and desire to dominate. In some ways the latter can be attractive, but it's very threatening to the woman who naturally wants to take the dominant role in the relationship. I agree. Women actually do l…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 11:57 PM
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That's generally what they're understood as but I would go further than that. I think that's a very surface-level (and not entirely complete or even accurate) understanding of what alpha and beta is. Yes, type As are often total assholes. The idea that all women love alpha and hate betas is nonsense, like I said (might not have been to you though...), Chris Pratt is a beta and women love him. And why not? He seems lovely, fun, and is really attractive. Women like betas because betas aren't threa…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 11:15 PM
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toxic masculinity goes one step further and promotes the absence of empathy altogether. This implies that the reason women don't do these things is because women are apparently much more empathetic than men, as opposed to the fact that they're less capable of extreme violence and don't really care for any reason that men might have for committing such acts. Women in leadership positions still do atrocious things that cause massive losses of life, but they do so from positions of security and com…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 11:08 PM
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TRP is wrong about those terms. What I'm referring to is type A and type B, which is originally what was what the manosphere considered alpha and beta originally IIRC, but betas don't like that so it changed to be more appealing :p Everything makes much more sense in the context of type A/type B anyway, rather than just as a relative measure of SMV.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 10:51 PM
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Then you don't really understand what alpha and beta really means. You may have become a more mature person, but that doesn't mean you've become less beta or more alpha. Frankly, anyone who would ever accept that they're beta or ever were beta is not an alpha. That isn't a bad thing, beta isn't a pejorative, it's just a type of personality.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 10:50 PM
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You started this dialogue with me in bad faith - insulting my intelligence, assuming you know my motivations, etc. That isn't what arguing in bad faith means. You're implying that the reason I'm arguing is so that I can call you an idiot. I'm not, everything I'm saying is completely sincere. That doesn't mean I'm being serious, obviously I can't know if you're an idiot, but my intention is 100% to explain why my post was fine. We have a wiki with clear, well-documented rules. My guess is you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 10:46 PM
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Believe it or not, I both understand your post Okay, explain what I meant. and what content is appropriate for this sub. And I understand the latter better than you. But no idea about what content is conducive to interesting debate and learning. You don't care for that either. I've made some really dumb threads in the past here on different accounts that never got removed, threads that were not interesting at all and were just for pissing around. This was removed because you think it's too contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 07:29 PM
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No, but that's why you removed it anyway, because you don't understand why it makes sense and have decided that if you can't that no one else will. How is this sub supposed to function if we have to all pander to your level of intelligence? Seriously. What I'm saying is perfectly well argued and reasonable, it's just obviously a fairly outrageous and controversial statement to make. Are we supposed to censor what we think is true so that we don't hurt poor RPers feelings? That would only obscure…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 06:36 PM
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Why did you remove my post? Just because you can't understand something doesn't mean that others can't. Bad moderation. There.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 06:02 PM
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I agree to an extent but I understand that few men will ever readily accept this. I don't really get it either.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 03:37 PM
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There's a great deal of shame involved in having cuck fantasies. A man who's attracted to men but is outwardly hostile to gays will keep his real sexuality hidden, both from society and from himself because he finds it shameful and disgusting. He can't really help it though.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 03:22 PM
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I presented my argument pretty clearly (or I thought so) in the OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 03:16 PM
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And I'm saying you're really blurring the difference between sex fantasy and paranoid fears. (Not to mention those preying on them.) I think they overlap and blur together. I think that the cuck fetish stems from wanting to have their woman stay with them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 03:15 PM
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That's not what alpha and beta are about. Alphas can be very cool guys and betas can be killers in gangs. The point is that the underlying personality type is the same, which is either type A or type B.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 03:13 PM
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Sure, but many vitamins contain well over 100% of requirements, some over 1000% of some minerals and vitamins. The amount in the pill is based on what you can absorb. B12 pills contain 1000x more B12 than is needed because you only absorb about 0.1% of it in pill form. Zinc is quite easy anyway, I get a 15mg pill per day that has vitamin C to boost absorption. RDA is 11mg for men. Any you love most? I'd like efficiency more than most else. Depends on my mood, try them out and see what you like. …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 03:11 PM
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True, trauma can suppress personality traits, but that doesn't make people blank slates from the beginning. There are definitely alphas who've been traumatized into suppressing their behavioral traits, and of course, TRP is in the business of attempting to suppress their beta traits.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 03:04 PM
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I'm not talking about literal cuckoldry, I'm talking about a subconscious fantasy of seeing their woman getting fucked by someone that is more attractive than they actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 02:59 PM
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Of course, but I'm not talking about literal cuckoldry, I'm talking about having a subconscious fantasy of seeing your woman getting fucked by someone that is more attractive than you actually are.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 02:58 PM
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Yes, but you can't change everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 02:57 PM
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No I'm not, I'm saying that your argument that POV porn refutes my argument is wrong, because actually more men prefer to watch porn where they aren't imagining themselves doing fucking. Thing is, you can enjoy either porn in either way, imagining yourself or enjoying watching another guy fuck the girl. I was just pointing out that your argument was wrong. It's POV porn, but sex is POV too and it's not like RPers don't enjoy that. I'm not talking about literal cuckoldry, I'm talking about a subc…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 02:57 PM
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No it doesn't. RPers still get off while they're fucking because they're imagining themselves as someone else, someone better. I'm not really talking about literal cuckoldry, but it does point to a general cuckold fetish, just like a woman who likes to be dominated and roughed up in bed points to a general rape fetish for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 02:47 PM
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90% was just a ballpark figure, see my last point in the OP. I would say that this is just an attribute that betas have, and the vast majority of people in the world are betas/type B.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 02:45 PM
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No they're literally imagining that they are Chad. I guess this doesn't make them literally cucks, but that isn't what my post was about, my post was about exploring the idea that they get off on the thought of someone better fucking their partner. If they have to invent a character, someone who isn't them, to do it then to me this is still a kind of cuckoldry and points to a subconscious cuckold fetish.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 02:43 PM
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I made that clear in my OP.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 02:41 PM
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They don't try to become the bull. They might think that's what they're doing but what they're really trying to do is invent a bull character who will fuck their woman and keep her satisfied. If a RPer says that being yourself isn't good enough then he's a cuck, very simply.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 02:36 PM
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Men get off on women being in sexual pleasure. That's why the most popular porn generally involves a woman being fucked by a bunch of big dicks. Yes, people grow and change but there are some fundamentals that don't. People are not blank slates.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 02:33 PM
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They're personality types, the traits are the traits of those personality types. The behavior can only be suppressed, but the personality type can never change because it's that way from birth. It's known as type A/type B theory in psychology.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 02:20 PM
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This is by far the theory that I'm most proud of.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 02:16 PM
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Yeah but then if she has a better option she'll leave you for whatever that is. It's not a lock if she's willingly staying.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 02:12 PM
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So then it's not about sincerity at all. It's a combination of factors, of which sincerity is a significant factor. Let me repeat myself for you, there is no shortcut into a woman's pants. It's not a PUA trick to be authentic, it simply is what it is, and it's attractive. That doesn't mean it's a guarantee that a person will be successful. Because people can tell the difference? Because every woman do to their undefinable womanness is innately a perfect judge of these things? The difference betw…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 11:29 AM
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Yeah, it's not that simple. Vitamins can cause and fuel cancerous growth. Excessive doses of some supplements, that doesn't mean vitamin pills will give you cancer. But your choice. Do you practice any martial arts? Yeah, various kinds of martial arts for MMA like boxing, BJJ, muay thai for the past five years, but I'm super lazy. Well certain methods of cooking meat cause cancer IIRC, but the debate is still out. If you're boiling chicken and shit then you're probably going to be fine. For me i…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 09:52 AM
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People are not blank slates, this is some weird kind of 3rd wave feminism thinking. Personality can only be suppressed, not changed. EDIT: I worded that quite poorly. Personality changes but personality type doesn't change. Just as a man cannot learn to think and really behave like a woman and vice versa, an alpha can't learn to think and behave like a beta and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 09:38 AM
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No... you can't come out less beta. You can't change your hard-wired personality like that without suppressing it, but that doesn't mean you're going from beta to alpha.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 09:36 AM
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So if I'm a fat piece of shit, and I communicate my sincerity of wanting to bang a hot chick, she's going to fuck me for my sincerity? That's your play? No, but it might help if you stopped looking for tricks and shortcuts into a woman's pants. Women want to bang attractive guys because they perceive them as attractive. Sincerity has little to do with it. Sincerity is a very attractive quality to a woman, but that doesn't mean she'll always fuck you. Of course SMV is relevant. There's a massive …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/16 09:35 AM
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Not really. Getting sex is about offering women what they want. Betas are naturally insincere but it isn't their insincerity that necessarily gets them laid, it's just how they are. Alphas are sincere and can get sex because they are sincere and this is attractive to women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 11:29 PM
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Uuuuuuuuh yeah, actually. Sorry to piss on your parade.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 11:16 PM
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Yes, type A/type B personalities. Alpha/beta has nothing to do with SMV. Chris Pratt is a beta, and there are petty criminals in jail who are alpha. Alphas offer something that women can only get from them, not from themselves, not from other women, and not from betas, and so RPers attempt to copy what they do to get laid, not understanding that the thrill of the alpha male is his sincerity and authenticity, something that obviously can't be faked. It has nothing to do with how well you treat wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 11:14 PM
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They don't. Alpha/beta are personality types that are set in stone. The vast, vast majority of men over at TRP are betas pretending to be alphas, which they will never be. They're just con artists that have managed to trick themselves.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 11:05 PM
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She isn't locked down.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 10:48 PM
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No. You, and the thousands of others who come here and attempt to state this same opinion immediately show how little you know about the red pill. 90% of the "PUA techniques" died a decade ago. So you're either incorrectly using that term to refer to things that simply aren't used anymore...of you've expanded the original definition to refer to anything you don't like about TRP. Either way, this shit has to stop. The techniques may have changed but the fundamental point is still the same. TRP, l…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 10:46 PM
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Evolution passes on behavior that generally creates babies. It is never guaranteed to be successful. Our psychology is indisputably based in our biology, there's no argument there, but it doesn't mean that it's perfect and that every action can be completely accurately predicted. EDIT: To add to this. It's not surprising that many women don't want to have children. Women act in their best interest at all times and if they perceive that they'd be happier without kids then they simply won't have t…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 10:30 PM
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Why is it embarrassing that people need hugs when they're sad? Humans are social creatures. If he needs it. Personally, I prefer to deal with the problem myself but that's my own personal bias, irrelevant to the discussion. He is also the primary wage-earner, but we consider our division of labor fair. Do you really. Aristotle is, in fact, male. So I'm not sure why quoting him, a man, whose philosophy was mostly followed by men for thousands of years on account of they were the only ones who rea…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 10:26 PM
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There's nothing wrong with pills if they're being absorbed properly. I mean, the nutrients are still the same, and they do work. I'd rather not get into a debate about nutrition but here's a long video by Firas Zahabi, GSP's coach and head coach of Tristar gym, that explains what I think. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOCH-Q4L52w I'm basically a vegan but I make an exception for fish.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 05:31 PM
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I have considered going no ejaculation, but I can't ever get past a sex session or two. What? That's an absurd thing to do. I don't think I could ever voluntarily do that. I like the idea of more testosterone. Then start taking a zinc supplement and ease up off the meat. Trust me, you'll thank me for it. You need a good 15mg a day and you're just not going to get it from food unless you eat a really unhealthy amount of red meat (which is shit for you anyway). A good zinc supplement with vitamin …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 05:15 PM
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I never said they were identical. They are both sympathetic circumstances, obviously in varying degrees, that's the point. It's still comparable in that respect. But the critical factor is the degree to which they vary in terms of sympathy. You can be sympathetic to needy, attached men being dumped by their girlfriend, but you wouldn't shame the girl for dumping him. The degree of sympathy is imperative, because that impacts how ashamed she feels and how much she is shamed by other people. I was…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 05:12 PM
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I guess. I'm always torn between succumbing to my relentless addiction to porn and fighting it. I feel much more alive, and alert, and strong when I'm not jacking off all the time, but at the same time, it's very frustrating and intense. Everything is way more relaxed when my sex drive is dulled.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:49 PM
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Yeah, women are generally much better than men are at understanding this. Lots of women don't really get it, or rather just don't care, but women who have absolutely no interest in what betas offer, because they already have it, generally can tell, or have a strong inkling, that there are two types of males and that the betas make up the vast majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:46 PM
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If you didn't care you wouldn't have carried on the discussion earlier.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:33 PM
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Well, it does and it doesn't. The problem is that betas naturally look to deceive in order to get what they want. TRP 'works' for guys in that they probably get laid more but is that conducive to a happy life? What men really want is female validation, not to just masturbate into a woman's vagina, and if you're playing a character then are you really being validated? Eh, not really. Their relationships are pretty empty because they're not getting any validation for themselves, just for their cha…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:32 PM
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Yeah I just jack off. I probably masturbate like twice a day now, maybe three. Less if I'm busy but honestly usually two a day. It's not good but... you know... I mean... I just do it. I see a decent pair of boobs on reddit and my pants are around my ankles straight away.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:22 PM
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I've really offended you, huh?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:21 PM
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Alright then. I'll link you to my discussion that I mentioned earlier a bit later anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:16 PM
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Okay that's true, but not because I'm closed-minded, just because you're never going to prove me wrong because I'm not, just like you can't prove water isn't wet. You're just not going to do it, you know?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:11 PM
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I do have evidence, I'll try and find an earlier discussion I had and link it to you because I CBA to type everything out again. I'll link it to you a bit later or you can have a meander through my post history, it was on PPD, quite long posts, all interesting stuff anyway if I don't say so myself lol. That's insane and I have no skin in the game of changing your mind. Of course you do. My experience however is that women typically resort to indignation because that's how they normally get their…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:07 PM
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Women are tiresome. You have to work to get sex from them and that means the more women you go for the more work you're putting in. I'm lazy, one woman at a time for me, and i'll see her on the weekends only pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 04:02 PM
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Go on.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 03:59 PM
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Because your argument is not logically consistent with comparable situations. If women care about their image that much that it effects this particular statistic that much you'd expect to see this "huge factor" having an impact on quite a few other things. So tell me, what other things does it have a factor in that we can measurably see? Because we don't see a similar trend in women with unemployed men. That would be true ONLY if being unemployed and being extremely sick received the same kind o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 03:57 PM
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You missed the first word of your sentence. Try again. I was saying yikes because you slipped up and made it obvious that you were a woman as a result of what you said, even though to people who aren't aware of what I'm saying, it should be impossible to tell, not just because you're a woman. Then she becomes your dog and then you stop fucking her. Did I get that right? No. Only a man who thinks he is the center of the world and that everyone on earth is built on the same model as himself can co…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 03:26 PM
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That's a fair point. To my mind, love simply comes from empathy, real empathy. This is hard to explain to women because they have no experience of it, and so it's impossible for them to actually have a genuine understanding of what it is. I find any conversation about this to generally be fruitless for this reason. Empathy isn't just imagining yourself in their shoes, or feeling sad or distressed about the idea of what they're suffering from, it's genuinely experiencing the other person's suffer…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 03:24 PM
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CHris Pratt does not have the personality of a parsnip. Or at least his film personas do not. He had a dad bod in Parks and Recreation. He had a more juiced up physique in Guardians of the Galaxy. He's not a beta, at least not in TRP parlance. He's very clearly beta, he displays all the people-pleasing, affable, easy-going, uncontroversial character that is typical of betas. His SMV is irrelevant, and how entertaining or funny is doesn't make a difference. TRP is wrong about alpha/beta. Alpha an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 03:16 PM
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I provide my husband with company, affection, comfort in times of sadness, support for his goals, an active sex life, and interesting facts about syphilis. I keep the house clean and remind him of things that he wants to be reminded of (such as when it's bedtime). Someday we will have children together, and I will be their primary caretaker. So female validation, and a maid/caretaker, and occasionally a hug when he's feeling sad (and it's kind of embarrassing that he needs that). Literally nothi…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 03:11 PM
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You forgot my tits. Your metaphorical vagina. Shows you are incapable of having a discussion with another person without making a personal attack. What? Calling someone a woman is a personal attack now? How? So you love people you aren't attracted to? Yeah, I don't want to fuck my family members, or my dog. You haven't explained anything there, mate. What I was obviously saying is that they're two separate things, they just often overlap. Men are sexually attracted to women, become attached, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 02:52 PM
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Well that's just meaningless gobbledygook. If you're acting in a way that makes the relationship better and makes you both happier then that isn't necessarily love is it, because it obviously benefits you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 02:48 PM
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It is unrealistic to argue the large discrepancy among the genders is due, in huge part, to women's need to maintain their image. That makes very little sense. If that was the case you wouldn't see women leaving unemployed men at higher rates. An unemployed man may not be as sympathetic as a dying man but he is still sympathetic. What because you say so? There's an enormous difference between being unemployed and being very, very sick, and you're going to ignore that? What a load of shit, and th…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 02:47 PM
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But you don't offer a lot if you have just "attractiveness" with beta. And women respond initially, but then dump you once they find out you have the personality of a parsnip. Would a woman dump Chris Pratt? Because Chris Pratt is a beta male, and it's very obvious. Alpha/Beta is about personality type, not your SMV. That's what TRP and the manosphere exist to rectify. Except it doesn't, because you can't fake authenticity, it's an oxymoron. Women respond to authenticity and alphas naturally act…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 02:40 PM
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Not really, that's still not love.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 02:12 PM
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TRP theory is wrong, or rather it just misses the mark, but all women have the same fundamental psychology. A woman can be smart, have great values, be friendly and pleasant and still be the same. TRP is filled to the brim with beta men masquerading as alphas and nice girls are really turned off by that, because it's insincere and threatening, and those guys offer these girls nothing that they want. Women don't hate betas, they just dislike unattractive people who have the nerve to hit on them, …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 02:07 PM
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The only way I can describe love is this: whenever I recall memories or fantasize about the future, he is present and he burns brighter for me. No matter what happens I want him to be there; when I am in pain or fear or joy, he's the one I want to share it or help me get through it. Exactly. Love, as women understands it, is how he makes you feel good, or in other words, his value you to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 01:41 PM
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Really showing off your vagina there, huh? Yikes, couldn't be more obvious that you're a woman. Love isn't based in attraction. Love is love, and attraction is attraction. Women, who don't have the capacity to love, conflate the two because they don't understand the difference. Only a woman who understands love in a purely objectifying way would make the mistake of confusing the two in such a flagrant manner.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 01:37 PM
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Men fantasize about a woman who wants him as much as he wants her, and in the same way. I don't think there are that many men that would choose devotion to a woman instead of keeping their options open if they were actually aware of how women are and think.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 01:34 PM
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This is absolutely true. A woman's image is far more important to her than image is for a man. Not just external image, but how she views herself. 20% of guys are shitheads, alright, that makes quite a lot of sense. There are a bunch of guys that don't give a shit about their wives and don't care what others think and don't really feel any shame for leaving her. Women are acutely aware of their image and self-image and that is a huge factor.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 01:31 PM
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The rates are still very low. It's what, 20% for women? That leaves 80% of men who don't leave them, that's still many more. It would be interesting if the rate were much higher but it's not, and like some other users have pointed out, women have a lot more to gain from staying.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 01:28 PM
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It absolutely makes sense on the part of the man. What's going to make him hang around to protect and raise his kids if he doesn't fall in love with the woman? Her vagina? New vaginas are better. Women have no evolutionary need to love though, and so don't possess the capacity for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 01:23 PM
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Your post would only make any kind of sense if women and men had equal sexual imperatives and had the same kind of sexual function, which of course is not the case. Your argument is fundamentally flawed because you started from a false premise. Women are opportunistic with regards to their sexuality. Whether they fuck or not is dependent on what the man can offer her, and average-looking run of the mill beta men hardly offer women anything. Women don't really need them for resources anymore, or …
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 11:12 AM
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It's not about being a doormat, it's their nature. What relationship actually benefits men beyond satisfying their desire for female validation, and eventually their fear of loneliness and solo masturbation? Women are far more work than they're worth but there's not much men can do because men grow attached to them, beyond the female 'attachment' towards men which is based in objectification. It's not about being a doormat. You can still assert your boundaries and be in a relationship that prese…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 10:30 AM
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Not consciously. It's your nature, you can't help it.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/08/16 09:48 AM
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I mean, yes, most people are not going to stay in relationships that don't benefit them, submissive or no submissive. Men do it all the time, because men have that 'love' thing going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:30 AM
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Well, really good captains don't take their passengers on board if they're not willing to pay up. Lots of shitty, desperate captains out there though.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:29 AM
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All women. Women have a sexual imperative and demand that the man takes her in that direction. She wants something from him, whether it's emotional, financial, physical, sexual etc. and when he stops giving that to her she'll close her legs. All women are literally a kind of whore.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 05:28 AM
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Yes, because you don't really see yourself as the 'first mate', you're a passenger who feigns submission to maintain her power over the relationship. Modern women, who have no interest in politics, are naturally drawn to less conservative parties because it gives them greater power. This fits perfectly in line with your relationship because you're only pretending that he has power over you so that you can get what you want from him. You don't believe for a fucking second that if he suddenly stop…
/r/PurplePillDebate01/08/16 12:41 AM
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Exactly, call her a slut in bed and compare that to stone-faced calling her a slut outside of sex. See how fucking submissive women are then haha.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/16 07:14 PM
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I understand that UnbelievableTeknique might have acted like a whiny little bitch Err no, excuse me. Calling someone out in a public forum isn't necessarily bitchy behavior, only someone projecting their own fear of confrontation onto others might wrongly assume that. Men have always done this and always will.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/16 04:26 PM
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Right. Not at all, it's for me, never claimed it was for any other reason. though I wonder how you can be aware of the fact and be blissfully ignorant of how that translates into what you did at the same time... Because it doesn't. I'll concede one point. I over-estimated the intelligence of people here, because I didn't assume that they would project their own fear of confrontation onto me, implying that my post is somehow bitchy. Read this and this along with the sidebar Well I have and there'…
/r/TheRedPill31/07/16 04:24 PM
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That's boring and lame though.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/16 04:13 PM
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Who cares, dude? It's the internet, it's reddit, lots of people with too much free time trying to prove their way of life right. I enjoy it, so I like to do it properly. It's sincere, not serious. Don't you have barbells to lift and proteins to eat? Nah, I'm a vegan.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/16 04:03 PM
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Oh boo, it's confrontation. I'm not sitting behind my computer like this is the most serious thing in the world, but I still enjoy it so I don't have a problem with doing it properly. Publicly shaming someone and bringing them out to answer in the public square isn't an insincere, feminine thing to do, it's what men have always been doing. Half-men who find confrontation uncomfortable project this as pettiness and bitchiness which it isn't. In truth, confrontation is necessary and you can't hide…
/r/TheRedPill31/07/16 04:01 PM
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So you're commenting without even having read the post?
/r/TheRedPill31/07/16 03:39 PM
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I'm not complaining, I'm bringing shameful behavior out into the public square to make an example of it. You can very easily tell this from the tone of my post.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/16 03:36 PM
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There's nothing insincere about public shaming, I want people to see it. If you can't see that the start of my post was a joke that's not my fault, I'm not going to dumb down my posts for the lowest common denominator.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/16 03:34 PM
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I actually gave you benefit of the doubt by presuming that you had acted in a masculine way but made an error because you were too pissed off. Now you admit it, you just look like a passive aggressive insincere woman. That's worse. It's not my fault you can't detect humor, it really isn't. I may have over-estimated this sub's reading comprehension skills. Fucking check yourself, kid. I'm the one with the tag, not you. This place is a meritocracy and I have more proven merit than you. Yeah, I bow…
/r/TheRedPill31/07/16 03:20 PM
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You're flaming and that's why you can't see how you have also contradicted your words with your actions, which is to be insincere. I can read the name in the first PM and I don't have some fucking bionic camera in my eyes. Thus you are being insincere because you know we can identify this person. Is it really not obvious that I'm just messing around? Of course everyone can tell who it is. Well I'll be fucked if I've ever seen more officious, crab-in-the-bucket moralising. Big difference between …
/r/TheRedPill31/07/16 02:53 PM
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I'm not arguing about what's good for society, I'm here to talk about moralizing behavior and leaving me to conduct my own business the way I see fit.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/16 02:46 PM
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No, I only send dickpics to alphas.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/16 02:43 PM
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I will literally send you a picture of my penis if you want proof lol.
/r/TheRedPill31/07/16 02:35 PM
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OP is an unattractive tradcuck who needs laws to make women act submissively towards him because he doesn't actually offer them anything himself.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/16 10:58 PM
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Yeah it's cuckporn, ignore it.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/16 10:37 PM
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When was the last sex-related honor killing you heard of from any Christian area?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 09:49 PM
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Well not really actually. Wild sex, rock n roll, drugs, gambling etc. they all go hand in hand. Gambling is prohibited in most religions, is illegal in many places, and is still considered shameful to some extent, pretty much the same as sex is. I don't think gambling is much worse for society because most people don't actually destroy themselves with gambling.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 09:38 PM
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The way I see it is that civilization is all about suppression of instincts, about foresight. You work hard for a while because you know that you'll have grains later on. People acting on their sexual instincts is bad for civilization because it means that down the line fewer strong, capable children are going to be made. So to answer your question, yeah.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 09:02 PM
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Great thread, but I have some disagreements. The problem is, men just don't often respond to the repression like women do. They pay lip-service, but their sex drive is so much stronger than women Not so much stronger, rather that their sexual imperative is different. Men want to fuck as many women as possible, while women are purely hypergamous. That doesn't mean that the drive is necessarily stronger, just different. It's nothing to do with right and wrong or equality, it's about how societies …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/16 08:26 PM
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That's why women don't immediately branch swing at the sight of a man with higher SMV than their current mate They don't branch swing because women aren't risk-takers, and they'd rather stay with a good safe bet then go for a really risky slightly better bet. Women are purely hypergamous, straight to the core. if he's kept his pimp hand strong. If you abuse her then sure, but at that point it ceases to be a healthy relationship and the trauma makes her an unhealthy female who is no longer capabl…
/r/TheRedPill30/07/16 07:59 PM
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We never stop being the gatekeepers of commitment. Doesn't change the dynamic at all. The whole premise of your argument presumes women don't want what we have to offer as much as as we want what they offer, and that's simply not true. We? What, all 3.5 billion of them want we have as much as all 3.5 billion of us want what they have? That's simply not true. Nowadays, most men don't make the cut. Moot point anyway, how much she wants you doesn't change the fact that you have no power over her, o…
/r/TheRedPill30/07/16 07:59 PM
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I responded to a big reply to my comment which might interest you. EDIT: Feel free to argue or question any points I make.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/16 10:48 AM
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Nu uh. Social conditioning is teaching women to act submissively. You know, 'don't fart, don't burp, don't nag, don't be bossy etc'. These are all things that women do naturally. Sure, to an extent men are taught to not act as men, but they're generally still instinctively submissive. Boys aren't really tricked into behaving nicely, they're mostly brutalized into it. They behave well out of fear of repercussion, which is natural for boys.
/r/TheRedPill30/07/16 10:47 AM
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Either way, Beta males are still more dominant than women. Have you seen beta men fight each other (example: video game tournaments)? The level of aggression and passion shown in these endeavors are inherently dominant. So if Johnny here is verbally aggressive while on CoD but turns into bitch when talking to a chick, does that suddenly make men less dominant than women? There are championship level MMA fighters who are beta males. Testosterone is not the factor, it's about personality. And yes,…
/r/TheRedPill30/07/16 10:43 AM
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Women are indeed the gatekeepers of sex, but they relinquish this power ONLY to a strong man. Right, but they don't stop being gatekeepers because they've let you past. They don't concede their post to you. If you can pay the toll they'll let you through, if you're no longer able to pay the toll they'll tell you to get lost. Just because you're submissive doesn't mean you don't have cards on the table to play with. Yes, absolutely. This is key. You can't be her doormat, you have to tow the line …
/r/TheRedPill30/07/16 10:43 AM
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Well no because men actually offer friendship. Very few women have the self-awareness to actually act as a friend acts.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 11:34 PM
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Wrooong, so wrong as usual. Yes, the act of sex involves the woman submitting to the man but sex isn't about 'conquest' it's about getting female validation. the act of a male fucking a woman into submission also corresponded perfectly with the dominance of the male over the female in other parts of life Why? Why should it? Because it fits your fantasy of dominating a woman? The actual behavior of men and women in a liberated society demonstrates that this isn't even remotely true. It was PRE-se…
/r/TheRedPill29/07/16 10:22 PM
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Ha, no. The man wants to fuck her. You can't be friends with someone you want to fuck and you can't ignore sexual tension. Women can, because women's sexuality as well as female friendship are opportunistic. If a woman is really really attracted to the guy then it would be difficult, but for a man it's impossible. It's not even a real friendship if the man feels sexual tension and you can't just ignore it, it's impossible. I'm friends with my exes because there's no sexual tension anymore. That …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 09:57 PM
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when the female starts getting niggardly Hmm.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/16 09:47 PM
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straight up ignoring them are always catnip to women If you're already very very attractive it can work, but this is basically a myth. It's possible to trick them into thinking that you're higher value than you are but it doesn't last long at all, it's just a PUA trick.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 11:02 AM
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No, not at all, don't be an actor. You do have to give her something, but that could just be a sexual thrill, the point is that she isn't going to fuck for free. Think of the power dynamic as that of a prostitute and her customer. Sure, she'll feign submission but ultimately she decides if you've paid enough to fuck her and she decides what she'll do, if you don't like that you can go. You don't bargain with whores, she has her price and if you don't pay up you can get fucked. Now, that's great …
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/16 12:32 AM
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So wait, you think self improvement is a bad thing? A fat ass losing weight and getting healthy is bad? A timid Virgin sucking it up and talking to women is bad? Getting more education to improve career options is bad? I don't think any of those are bad things at all, what I disagree with is the mentality that's often behind those things. If you want to do those things that's great and pretty much everyone wants to be good at things and improve, but feeling pressured to do it and treating it as …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 11:43 PM
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Oh man, where to start? Fundamentally, that the power dynamic in any healthy relationship actually has the woman dominating the man, as opposed to the common idea that men are the naturally dominant sex which is the view that TRP espouses. They're too caught up with 'blue pill indoctrination' and this idea that men have been taught to be submissive, whereas women have been taught to be 'manly' and dominant. Really, I think if you want to see how men and women actually are you have to see how the…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 10:07 PM
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Thanks, yeah I've been tempted to makes some posts there for a while. I guess I should but I don't particularly like the sub or the community there, or really the 'manosphere' in general so I haven't done it. A lot of my beliefs completely contradict what TRP teaches so I doubt much of what I have to say would be met with a lot of enthusiasm. I'll think about it anyway, I'm more of a one vs one debate poster than thread starter, I don't even know how to format posts properly.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/16 08:52 PM
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I'm not talking about race, I'm talking about culture. No woman wants to fuck some guy from Afghanistan because they offer her nothing, and she'll keep away from them because she sees them as a threat because of their background. Women aren't going to fuck them just because they're the only guys left, which they obviously aren't going to be anyway. You're just whining about being short and Indian. Dude, I don't care.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/16 02:56 PM
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It's going to be incredibly dysgenic as poor dumb third world men will be the ones imptegnating western women. Very unlikely, the marriage and birth rates will just go down further. Western women are repulsed by 99.99% of 3rd world men.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/16 10:45 AM
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No it's not, people are stupid and want stupid entertainment, and people capitalize on that because it makes money. It's not some ridiculous conspiracy to keep people subdued, it's about money.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/16 10:07 AM
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I did, actually, and I took it upon myself to correct you because you obviously don't know the difference between socialism and social democracy. Again, maybe do a little research before falling to the 'buuuut scandinavia!' argument. I actually meant misogyny and the subjugation of women has been rife and nearly universal. Not arranged marriage, which is a largely upper class phenomenon. Well it'd be helpful if you were more clear and actually referenced what you're talking about with my posts. …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 12:15 PM
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because this is literally rife What is? Arranged marriage? Yes, I know, that doesn't change anything I'm saying. These traits evolved long before civilization. Seems like humans have an innate, typically fixed pattern of behavior in response to a particular stimuli -- the prospect of women getting outta hand sexually --> establishing a patriarchy. No, you're looking at a common trend and assuming that makes it instinctual. It doesn't take a genius to figure out that women having sexual freedom i…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 10:37 AM
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Modern psychology is not based on evolution. Some of its theories are and others are not. It is falsifiable. It is not about explaining a hindbrain. It is about explaining the current brain. Your brain, which determines how you think, is 100% the product of evolution. Do you not get this or something? Feminist struggles have occurred at different points in various societies, so your 'turning points' theory is bizarre (although of course feminism is always going to be a product of its context. Ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 12:52 AM
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Not even remotely true. Just because nerdy incels tend towards interests that are generally considered lame doesn't mean that they aren't ever going to be viewed as masculine. Pro gamers in Korea are getting more and hotter women than most people will ever get close to. If you're a masculine, attractive guy you can like whatever the fuck you want and women won't care.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/16 12:26 AM
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No, I think you have a poor understanding of history. Women didn't have a choice about whether or not they got to marry 'alpha males' or 'beta males' in the past (just talking Western society). Men had the power of choice and women, generally speaking, would marry anyone their father told them to. Well it depends how far in history you're looking. These traits evolved long before civilization and 'patriarchy'. There were no repercussions for men screwing around after marriage -- a blind eye was …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/07/16 12:17 AM
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I'm saying that women had 0 say in who they married and that there was a time when husbands basically owned wives. Evolution is a much slower process than that, and the idea that all 'forced' marriages were unhappy is nonsense. Feminist ideals couldn't be put into place back then because women were incapable of fending for themselves. They may not have thought it was perfect, but it was easily the best choice that they had. You've been watching too much Game of Thrones if you think all arranged …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 10:00 PM
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To the majority of straight men almost any 18-20 year old girl, even if she's slightly obese, skinny or have slightly unproportional features, is more attractive/arousing than a 30 year old woman, even if she's fit and has a nice facial structure. Is that really true? I'm not sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 09:09 PM
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Yes, I thought you sounded hella immature and solipsistic so I made a decision to not really engage with you. Except you did... Your response was also intended to manipulate me into feeling shame by insulting me on the basis of my sexuality. No it wasn't, you're projecting. I don't need to manipulate you, simply telling the truth about how you're arguing is enough. I've got no shame about arguing like a woman. Only because you don't know any better, or you're just lying. Everyone acts in their b…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 09:05 PM
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I'll respond to your earlier comments that you edited in before that I missed first. but I felt that we were coming from too fundamentally different a place to properly engage with each other. And you didn't even try? We can agree to disagree about what self-immolation means for men and women. Well self-immolation has a literal meaning, I'm not using it literally. We don't need to get into semantics. I think sexuality and the sexual imperative is far more complex than you do for both men and wom…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 07:00 PM
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btw, one of them was a fabulous example of the kind of self-immolation you're talking about No it wasn't, I do not mean literal self-immolation as I plainly stated earlier. Yeah, that's a fairly dramatic example of giving up your sexual imperative. As I explained earlier, everything you do is based on sex, everything. What it means is that a woman will only operate in her self-interest and this can be seen across the board in every healthy relationship. The woman never self-immolates for the man…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 06:21 PM
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Lmao at bird flying out of the cage.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/16 06:11 PM
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No, except you didn't, because they aren't the same at all. You just don't, or probably won't, get it. You're not actually arguing a point, you're just making lists, which is something that vaginas do very well. Poetry makes you feel good, and so it makes you feel good and smart to list poetry. That's all you're giving me, you're not actually using an argument to back up anything you're saying, you're just listing. Of course, you're a feminist so you probably believe that gender is socially cons…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 06:05 PM
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I am smart. I'm sure you got very good grades at school, but you're not smart. Your behavior is antithetical to how smart women behave. You set up parameters 'women don't write literature about loving men!' 'women don't self-immolate in art!' and then moved them when I disproved your points. And got mad at me for not engaging with you on a point that you didn't originally express. I never moved them. As I have explained several times now, you failed to understand what I mean by love, and by self…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 05:53 PM
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When I say 'as usual' I'm just referring to OP, who deliberately glosses up his language and writing format to make the nonsense he spouts actually seem profound.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/16 05:10 PM
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Because I am a vagina and I need validation? No, because it makes you feel smart. I'm super interested in art and artistic representation and wanted to have a good faith conversation about it Wrong sub then, I'm here to discuss sexual dynamics and psychology. You have no interest in that, obviously. I'm shaming you because you deserve to be shamed. I don't care! I'm not your boyfriend so trying to use manipulative language on me isn't going to work. Women have never needed to develop intellectua…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 05:06 PM
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Because it looked like it was gonna go for my Dad. So your reaction was instinctive and protective. What does that have to do with love? I would put myself in danger to protect my guitars which are expensive and have emotional significance to me. Do I love my guitars, no. So fucking what? You referenced Dante. Who wrote cantos of poetry that make up Commedia. Implicitly, you're referring to poetry. Err no, I'm referring to Dante as one example of many, it just happened to spring to mind. Oh love…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 04:30 PM
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I knew it was a green mamba and I jumped in front of it. Green mambas are highly poisonous snakes and I knew that. Why did you jump in front of it? Look, you seem pretty set in your opinion and determined to believe that women are incapable of love. No, either way it makes no difference to me. I'm determined to punch through your hamstering though. if you don't actually fucking read poetry because it's 'gay' That was a joke, idiot, obviously. And I never specifically mentioned poetry at all. I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 04:06 PM
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"Realz before Feelz" links to fiction Shit post as usual. There's nothing wrong with being happy or striving for happiness. You can't live in perpetual amusement but you can definitely go online and pretend to.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/16 04:02 PM
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You haven't met my mother or father So? Your mother and father are animals and animals demonstrate a certain behavior that doesn't change. Personally, I reckon it's more likely my mother would give her life for my father. She's less measured and more likely to do without thinking. So if she did think about it, it'd be different? Well if she had to think about it, the only thing stopping her would be having to live with the shame and living without her partner. That doesn't mean it's done out of …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 03:55 PM
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Have you read any Elizabeth Barrett Browning? Do you read much literature by women? There's heaps of fucked up shit about loving men who are terrible for us and rip our hearts out. Or about enduring love. And there's plenty of that on tumblr too, but it's meaningless if it isn't self-immolating. Women only hang around for men who are 'terrible' for them because they don't see a better option. I've literally never read or heard anything from women that didn't sound contrived. They do it because w…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 02:59 PM
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I find most guys really boring to be honest. They're still mostly amicable relationships but I'd rather just have a bunch of short term relationships with women to occupy my time. I've had one guy friend who I could spend all my time with and not get sick of him, and we got along fabulously, but I think that's pretty much it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 02:11 PM
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I'm not saying that the male 'version' of love is better, I'm saying that women are actually totally incapable of genuine love in the first place, if we postulate that love is this deep, sincere empathy that makes people self-sacrifice (to some degree) for the other person's well-being, which I think is an entirely reasonable definition. The more you love someone the further you're willing to self-sacrifice in order to ensure their well-being and happiness. Now, I'm sure you're aware and about t…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 12:15 PM
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I'm going to be frank, this is a pretty weak conclusion to come to. Sure, I do think men are 'better' than women in most respects, but do I wish things were different? Maybe? I just don't engage in that kind of thinking though, and I haven't for some time now. My only interest is embracing reality and learning to pass through life efficiently, because I know with pure conviction that this is the way to a happier and healthier life. So no, what I'm saying isn't some kind of hamstering, and I don'…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/16 12:03 AM
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Yeah that makes sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 06:05 PM
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It really doesn't if you just think about it. These women have no choice, they're driven by fear. No part of being attracted to the person would make them any more likely to have this person's children because these people fuck based on who they want to fuck as a result of their dominance. MANY MANY MANY women who weren't attracted to this person would have still passed on their genes. The extent to which genes were passed on as a result of marauding warlords is wildly over-exaggerated in this s…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 11:05 AM
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Simply not how it works I'm afraid. They don't stick around, he just fucks whoever he feels like fucking, he doesn't care about having children with any specific woman. The option of resistance simply doesn't exist.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/07/16 12:11 AM
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No, no one can, I choose to let it slip into friendship, which I find much more natural and pleasant. You're assuming that I'm envious or that my love life isn't going well, that's not the case. I'm very happy with how I do things and don't harbor any resentment towards women. I shouldn't have to preface my posts with that just because somebody is projecting their own inability to at least try to argue from an objective viewpoint onto me, but obviously I have to. We could have actually had a deb…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 10:56 PM
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No, all women will have sex when they want to, if they don't want to have ONSs they won't. There's no AWALT spectrum, they either are or they aren't. What you mean is that you want a woman with particular values, it has nothing to do with AWALT.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 07:42 PM
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AWALT isn't about women all being sluts, it's about women all being hypergamous. Half of the women in the world could be virgins and all women would still be like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 06:59 PM
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It wasn't. The point of your post was that these men use force which implies that they're going to be having sex with these women anyway. How attracted the woman is to him is irrelevant because she'll still be inseminated.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 05:07 PM
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Well give me a fucking recipe then, go on.
/r/TheRedPill20/07/16 04:27 PM
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OP you've fundamentally misunderstood how evolution works. What you're describing is Lamarckism, and even taking epigenetic theory into account it still doesn't work like that. Genes evolve because they're successfully passed on, they don't just randomly adapt to situations because it makes the person feel better.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 04:12 PM
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This is my first point. You are looking at a subset of women that are similar to each other. No, the women that TRP talks about make up the overwhelming majority of women, others are simply aberrations. You've thrown all sorts of different aspects of sexuality into a pot without separating them. For example, outdoor sex or knife sex are simply fetishes, but it doesn't change the over-arching dynamic of the man being in control and dominant. You can't compare someone who prefers a particular styl…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 03:11 PM
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No, I don't think I am the sole exception. These are many people who manage to remain happily married for decades. This isn't what I'm arguing against. There are entire books written about the concept. So? A certain percentage of people are capable of high quality pair bonding. Women don't 'pair-bond', this is nonsense. Women are purely hypergamous and narcissistic, their inability to empathise or love makes it impossible for them to do so. I have no idea why you find the idea so repugnant or un…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 11:41 AM
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Right, and I bet you say that whenever someone says something that you don't agree with. I'm sure nature made an exception with you and your husband which allows you to fuck for twenty years without losing passion. Or maybe I'm just wrong and there is some kind of evolutionary advantage to rabidly fucking the same person for decades on end. Maybe evolution is just nonsense and we're all just individuals man and sexuality is so complicated man. Ah you know what, I don't think I am actually. I thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/07/16 10:43 AM
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Well obviously not.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 09:51 PM
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Very well said, you put it more succinctly than I could. Polyamory also doesn't really work well for the male unfortunately, because males are also possessive of their sexual partners. Polyamory works wonderfully for women, it's a hippie form of cuckoldry that makes some concessions for the male, but it still involves the male sacrificing his sexual imperative to some degree.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 09:21 PM
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I fuck my hand and orgasm into tissues everyday, doesn't mean I have any lust for my hand, does it?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 09:16 PM
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I can see a big difference. Think of any historical "great leader" - most of them did very well at not trampling those around them (i.e., keeping up the morale of their followers) without ever submitting to anyone else. The difference is in the motive behind the action, not in the actions themselves. Submission is a motive for conceding, but strategy is also a motive for conceding. You're right, successful people do concede, but aren't submitting, it's essential to get what you want. However, wh…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 09:12 PM
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Yeah, I used to have the definition you have but I don't agree with it anymore. It's useful for determining hierarchy among animals (and of course humans are animals) but human socialization is too complicated for that kind of classification in my opinion. In such a case, whether you're alpha or beta is entirely contextual, you might be the alpha in one scenario but a beta in the next. It makes much more sense when viewed from the perspective of personality types, which are actually concrete. ED…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 08:40 PM
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That is their function. No, mirror neurons are a lot more complicated than that. It's certainly related to them, but it's not as simple as 'men and women both experience mirror neuron activity and so both experience empathy (the empathy that I'm describing)'. What I'm describing is quite specific, and research on mirror neurons isn't specific enough to deal with that. That might sound convenient for my argument, but it's true if you actually look at how research on them is done and what conclusi…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 08:26 PM
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That's good to hear. My beetle is vicariously experiencing the emotions of others. It isn't putting yourself into the other person's shoes and trying to understand, or feeling sadness at the thought of the emotion that the person is experiencing. It's literally experiencing and sharing the emotion of that person. I don't actually think it's useful for me to just say what it is and then have you say whether you do experience it or not, not because I don't believe you're being honest, but because …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 06:30 PM
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I'm not interested in your help, don't need it. I'm trying to get you to admit that you're a fucking phony but you won't because you are one and it would take some unusual courage to actually come out and admit it.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/16 02:55 PM
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Oh my god, again, just reply to what I'm saying instead of trying to start a dick measuring contest over the internet over how some random strangers online give you validation. I don't give a fuck what flare you have, no one with a brain does. I know you're impressed by authority figures, but not everyone is, so I'm not going to accept that you're not full of shit just because you have a special badge on the internet. Talking to you is like talking to a brick wall, you're incapable of actually r…
/r/TheRedPill19/07/16 02:47 PM
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I'm not saying women are wise when I'm comparing you to them it's because I'm saying you aren't either. You're just as full of shit as they are, but most of them don't actually make a big deal out of pretending not to be full of shit. Go through my post history, nothing about this sub disturbs me at all. This sub is way too tame because tradcucks like you have overrun it with their complete lack of sense and ridiculous grandiosity. You're spamming the same shit over and over again here while whi…
/r/TheRedPill19/07/16 01:59 PM
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Why do you always deflect what I'm saying? You literally avoid responding to any criticism, the kind of thing that a 'real person' wouldn't do. You realize that you just elevated a woman? And who cares?
/r/TheRedPill19/07/16 01:12 PM
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No it doesn't, your reluctance to accept reality does.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 11:18 AM
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Nope, nonsense. Couples can keep having sex but it requires a lot of fantasy and foreplay. It's not lust, it's mutual masturbation.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 11:00 AM
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Well the only way I could hope to change your mind is through scientific studies or by relating my own experiences. Would either of these be convincing to you? Everything I've seen from these studies doesn't change what I'm saying, because they also define empathy along your lines. Women emote more and are more responsive to emotional stimuli, but what I'm talking about is something different. Women literally have no idea what I'm talking about, and your post is demonstrative of that. Also, out …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 10:59 AM
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No, an alpha isn't a person at the top, that's a misconception. Alpha and beta are personality types. Alphas crave female validation to no end and are mostly driven by their deep insecurity. They refuse to accept mediocrity as people and are disdainful of any authority over them. Betas are just sort of the opposite, they're kind of bland, content with their lot in life, and are willing to accept authority figures above them. There's a lot more to say, this guy covers it in this long ass video (i…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 10:47 AM
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Ha, because having one marriage would be enough evidence? You're just lying. You really think nature designed people to fuck the same person for twenty years? 'Oh but we're special humans and evolution and biology doesn't apply to us', gtfo with that shit.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 10:40 AM
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No of course not, and she probably does find him sexually attractive, speaking objectively, but any lust that they ever had for one another is completely dead. Any sex they have with each other now is basically mutual masturbation. She's not going to admit that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 12:25 AM
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I think how it relates to a woman is irrelevant, I think it's all about personality type. Alpha traits are just those, traits, but an alpha can be both unexciting and unattractive to a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/16 12:10 AM
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When a man submits his sexual imperative in favor of hers. That's it really. He stays with her even though she doesn't treat him right. He's just content to be getting anything and so puts up with it. There are varying degrees to which a beta will submit but they do genuinely commit. Alphas feign submission but will never sacrifice their own sexual imperative in favor of hers at any point.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:16 PM
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I don't think you can 'voluntarily be tamed', you either are or you aren't. Feigning submission doesn't mean being full of shit either, you don't need to lie, you just need to concede.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:58 PM
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Alpha-beta isn't a spectrum. You're either alpha or beta. Alphas can't be 'tamed', they'll just feign submission for as long as they feel it's worth it. You're just thinking of a high value beta.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:47 PM
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Alphas are good for emotional and intellectual thrills, and they can often end up being attractive because their drive for female validation pushes them to be, but ultimately there's nothing more attractive to a woman than a high value beta. Chris Pratt is a beta. He's beta to the core and women adore him. Of course women choose betas for LTRs because they want someone that they know is going to submit to her sexual imperative. Sure, he might not be as thrilling as alpha men but everything that …
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:45 PM
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All men have to concede to interact or be in a relationship with anyone. That's how human interactions generally work. Living in a society or a community requires concessions, as human social interaction is based on cooperation and reciprocity, and very few can function for long without it. Yep. There is a big difference between conceding and being submissive. There's a difference but it's not a big difference. What does being aloof have to do with it? You can be dominant without being aloof. In…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:39 PM
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Okay well then you're just full of shit. It always makes me laugh when people just expect other people to take them at their word like that. The amount I used to straight up lie on the internet or hamster some shit that wasn't really true at all means I'm never going to just accept something because someone says so.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:33 PM
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Sure, but they aren't general trends, they're rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 08:26 PM
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No, alphas won't forego their own needs for hers but alphas are a minority. Still, all men do have to concede if they want a relationship with a woman. That doesn't mean they're genuinely submitting, but they're still conceding. The idea that you can just be aloof and dominant and have a woman stick around for years unless you're extremely rich is nonsense. They'll stick around for a bit while testing your submissiveness but they won't stay for long once they realise that they aren't going to ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 08:25 PM
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Of course she's going to compromise if she's smart, but whenever she feels that her compromising isn't worth it she'll leave. The same is true of a minority of men, but most men actually stick around for their partner even when it isn't worth the cost. Alpha men are a minority and will also only feign submission, but betas are genuinely submissive and make up the majority of men.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 08:22 PM
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It doesn't bore me, I'm saying you're a fraud and you're deluding other people who are following you into the same trap. You look at how you think you ought to behave and then do that, thinking it makes you that way. In this case, post enough woo-woo spiritual nonsense enough times and one day you'll become like your 'stoic' heroes that you admire so much. You're not interested in being 'real' and having your own thoughts and opinions, you're only interested in how you can act and what you can s…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 08:20 PM
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It is, except presumably there would be evidence for what I'm saying about women lacking empathy. I think there is but it's difficult to see because while all women are inherently narcissistic, they still experience shame and have a negative response to unpleasant emotions. That's why I don't think it's beneficial for me to draw up a list of terrible things that women do, because while men can experience empathy, it doesn't mean that they're going to be good people either. My understanding of wo…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 07:05 PM
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No, it's typically shit TRP relationship advice. Women don't want a dominant man, they want a high value man, or in other words a man who will dominate other men but be submissive to her. Sexually, they want a dominant man, but in the actual relationship she wants everything to go her way. She'll feign submission by letting him do all the work in everything but in no way will she ever genuinely submit to his will. Men are the taxi drivers, women are the passengers. Yeah ok, the man is holding th…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:35 PM
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No, I'm saying that women don't experience true empathy, not that whatever they think and feel isn't real. I have no doubt that you're being sincere when you say you do, same with all other women, but that's only because it's hard to understand what something is if you've never experienced it before.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 06:19 PM
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"Kill the Beta". You write this same goofy shit in every post and here you are saying that men are 'objectively real'. You can't even respond to a person's post, you just write the same scripted bullshit. How can you say that women are full of shit when you so obviously are too? You're a hypocrite. You spend so much time trying to convince yourself and others that you're 'stoic' by writing nonsense online in a deliberately fancy way, and yet here you are trying to talk about how women are all fa…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 06:06 PM
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But you're not vicariously feeling their emotions, you're simply relating them to yourself, or you're simply feeling distress at the concept of whatever nasty thing you're seeing. Yes, women are more emotive, but that isn't the same thing as having sincere empathy for other people in the way that I described. This is the root of women's extreme inclination to avoiding responsibility, because they don't feel guilt, they only feel shame for knowing that they're guilty and often conflate the two. Y…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 05:51 PM
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You know, not that many, I'm still pretty young, but I can't really give you a number, the line isn't really clear for what counts as a relationship or not for me.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 05:05 PM
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Yeah but I'm not that smooth or outgoing lol.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:58 PM
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I never said it was a negative thing, it's just true. I'm personally not interested in that, but if other men want to do that then that's up to them.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:56 PM
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This is a form of platonic idealism. The only form of love that is real is the one that fits your ideal of what you believe what love should be. Don't agree at all. Love is very clear to men. Men will know what I'm talking about, women won't. I think that what you are calling empathy is actually something else, although I am not sure what. Well I make the distinction by calling it deep, sincere empathy, as opposed to 'logical empathy'. Not to sound increasingly chauvinistic, but again, if you're…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:54 PM
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I would if I could I guess...? I don't really go out much.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 04:42 PM
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Well I completely agree with that so maybe we just have a misunderstanding. Depends on how you define 'real love'. Love is unconditional, entirely unconditional. My understanding of love is closer to deep, sincere empathy, and I don't think women can experience that, I think it's a biological adaptation to keep the man around the woman. I think it's disadvantageous for a woman to have that. To women, love is a concept, to men it's an experience. It's incredibly traumatizing for men to experience…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 02:56 PM
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How are you any different? You've already admitted before to following the sidebar religiously. We are the only "real people". You don't sound real at all. Real people don't talk or write the way you do, bullshit peddlers do.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/16 02:45 PM
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Ah I forgot you were a chick, you're stealthy AF. I sort of agree that women are somewhat hard-wired for serial monogamy, although they'll stick to one man if he's the best option, so they're really just hypergamous. Serial monogamy comes in when the woman has better options, and since most women today don't actually need a man, serial monogamy is a result of women seeking new passion. Men are hard-wired to fuck any woman he finds attractive, always. This is purely about genetic diversity, he li…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 02:21 PM
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People are full of shit on the internet and biological rules are rules.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 02:11 PM
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I'm already the most amazing human being alive to me lol. Life got better when I stopped expecting male qualities from women, and male qualities are the qualities that I respect. I have a large pool of love to give out and it keeps refilling so it's fine, no loss for me. We have good times and we shag a bit and it's nice having a girl around. I'm not committed to her, but I still treat her well and she gets something out of it. I'm much happier for it, really. I get to actually be myself and enj…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 02:11 PM
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Yeah sure, other people's problems are lame, and most people are lame as fuck. Still, a man craves female sexual validation, and if you're picking up drunk chicks and/or using PUA bullshit you're just duping your way into a hole for a night, you're not getting any real validation. The best thrill you're ever going to get is from having a woman that you want genuinely want you, and ONSs simply don't do that. It's why I think it's better for men, although most won't, to go for short term relations…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:30 PM
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Boring, heard it all before, still bullshit.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:06 PM
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As opposed to a ONS? Going out, picking up a drunk girl, and then just dumping her the next day? Pointless, you don't get anything out of it and you have to bullshit everyone around you by playing the PUA goof. The idea that men are fulfilled by regular ONSs is a complete myth.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:45 AM
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No, it's not an outlier. He just doesn't realise that his wife is only fucking him because she doesn't have any better options.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:05 AM
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I don't think that's a healthy approach. ONSs are shit, empty, pointless. I think just serial monogamy or polygamy is better. It's not anyone's fault that people lose sexual attraction to each other. I'm happy for a relationship to just run its course, usually within six months, and then just be good friends. You can definitely avoid being cucked but it's incredibly stressful, and ultimately you're just making both of you unhappy. I don't want to be the one that she resents for being the last pe…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 11:04 AM
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I think this is secondary... a woman needs a man to stick around, she can't be going off and fucking other dudes compulsively if she needs him to stick around to protect and provide for her and her children. I don't think her forgetting about her past relationships is to do with seeking out genetic diversity, because men have a far stronger inclination to do that and they don't forget relationships like women do. Rather, I think it's because women don't actually love, and so they only remember h…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:56 AM
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More like 2-3 months.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:49 AM
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I doubt it does at all. She just doesn't have a better option.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 10:48 AM
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Doesn't matter how sexually attractive you are, the lust always dies fairly quickly.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:25 AM
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No not at all. Women don't 'pair bond' like the tradcucks at TRP believe, and the notion that they would happily spend their whole lives in loving bliss with their husbands if they were to just avoid Chad is absolute nonsense. At most, dating an attractive alpha guy gives women a taste of what else is out there, but it doesn't mean they can't smell it if they haven't already tried it. The reality is just that men offer very little to women that they can't already get for free, and TRP belief tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:02 AM
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The concept of alpha widows is largely bullshit in the first place.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 11:31 PM
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Nah, all LTRs are the same. The woman loses sexual attraction to you and then you have to influence her in a way that makes you the best option so she doesn't cheat. It doesn't matter if you're alpha or beta, no one wants to fuck the same person for years on end. Alpha and beta has nothing to do with how aloof you are anyway.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 11:28 PM
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That's good I guess. She'll keep her part if she feels she needs to, you just telling her it's the proper thing to do won't do that though. It's really hard to understand but... she really doesn't care about you as a person, only what you can offer her. It's good that people fuck up, so that people keep having children, but since you're here... might as well let the cat out of the bag. You fucked up. I know you love her, a man's love is real, but a woman's love is fake. It's deceit. She doesn't …
/r/TheRedPill17/07/16 02:12 PM
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She doesn't care about you, not as anything more than an object. I mean, I take care of all of my stuff but I don't have any deep empathy for it all. She's refusing sex because any sexual attraction she had for you is long gone, which is natural, and now she feels like she doesn't need to have sex with you or do anything for you. Any sex she offers you comes at a price, and you don't have a lot of bargaining power. What are you going to do, leave her? Well too bad, you're married now, she owns y…
/r/TheRedPill17/07/16 01:42 PM
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Nah, I'm right though. I'm not saying women shouldn't be allowed to do it, it's just that we have to stop encouraging it. Anything a woman can do men can do better so there's really no need to have women doing much of anything. Still, individuals should still have the right to do what they want, but women are herd creatures and it'd be better if we herded them in a different direction.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 01:08 PM
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For pleasure, VR and fleshlights are going to take huge chunks out of the dating market. The problem is that men crave female validation as much as anything, so it's not going to stop men chasing women even if it does feel better. I like sex but it's hard work and it's that incredible. Certainly getting stoned and jacking off into a fleshlight with a VR headset on after a few days without masturbating would feel better than what most sex with average girls does. I wouldn't opt out but my standar…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 01:44 PM
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Is that a stereotype? Didn't think it was... TRP has an issue with women in higher education because for women university is largely a status symbol and kind of rite of passage. It gives them higher standards for men and makes them demand more, because they have this bogus higher perception of themselves as 'educated', when what they're really talking about is being of a higher social status. I guess that's one reason, though I don't really care either way, I think they just mostly laugh at them…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 01:32 PM
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LOL the idea that most women on reddit are geeks, nice girls, physics PhDs or whatever is nonsense. It's just that the women on this site are desperate to think that women are just like men so everyone upvotes the small minority of women that actually do have interesting jobs and aren't sluts. Besides, AWALT. Women may have different goals and aspirations regarding dating but it doesn't change how they fundamentally operate. It's a biological function so I don't see why any level-headed person w…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 01:21 PM
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No they don't, if they did they'd just tell them to fuck off. Orbiters provide the beta things that she wants like attention, comfort, entertainment without her having to fuck. They only hate them when they end up overstepping their boundaries with her. They hamster that they're the victims because all this 'nice guy' wanted from her was sex, and she definitely wasn't exploiting this naive boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/16 10:54 AM
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Trump wants to make it easier to sue people who deliberately spread false information. The UK simply makes it possible to prosecute people who say things you don't like, big difference.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 11:54 PM
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No, alphas are born alpha, it's genetic.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 07:14 PM
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Yeah I mean I agree, I look much much better than I did four years ago after some changes. Still, the hottest girl I ever got by a mile was when I didn't look great so I don't think it makes such a massive difference. I think people just become a lot more self-conscious as they get older. Don't get me wrong, it still makes a big difference, especially if you're a beta guy but if you actually have some natural game it's more important that you don't get hung up on how you look than it is to actua…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/16 03:49 PM
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Cooking is more scientific that social sciences. It actually PREDICTS stuff (say, mix that and that and it will taste like this). In a way, it's a sub-branch of chemistry :) Well I mean, that just makes it chemistry really, it isn't a scientific field of study in itself is it? I mean, you could then say that music is more scientific because it involves mixing together different frequencies. I think it's a long shot. Either way, semantics aside, my point was that what I'm saying is rooted in evol…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 06:23 PM
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It's not a woman's job to make genetically diverse babies, that's the man's job and he conveniently is equipped with the necessary tools to make that happen. The woman's focus is on acquiring the best genes possible for her offspring, and acquiring resources from males to ensure her babies' success. I know this from observation, having a brain? IDK.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 12:46 PM
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Marriage is to make the woman happy, because men don't have the balls or the knowledge to realise that marriage is a bad deal for them. You're just further proof that women are incapable of seeing how something that's good for the woman might be bad for the man, women seem to genuinely believe that a man's best interest is whatever the woman's best interest is. Unreal. Women use their vaginas as tools to trap men, doesn't mean they don't enjoy it, but it's still a tool. Women don't fuck for free…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 12:13 PM
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One dick is enough if you're getting everything you want from that dick. Women have no innate driver to be fucked by lots of different dicks though.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 12:09 PM
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If a woman could get everything she wanted from one man that would be enough for her. Women don't need variety, it's simply that a variety usually gives them what they want. One vagina is never enough for guys. Women have no interest in trying different dicks, different experiences for a thrill, sure, but they have no natural drive to fuck as many people as they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 01:31 AM
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TRP is a reaction to female dominance, because women are naturally dominant over men. Men just adapt to whatever women throw at them, it's not like we're actually fighting back.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/16 01:20 AM
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Because what OP said isn't true. Women don't care about your validation, they don't need it, this is just guys projecting their own desire for sexual validation onto women. Obviously you don't want to come off as needy, but there's nothing wrong with telling a girl she's attractive. Like, if you're a not great looking guy and you tell an average girl that she's cute then it's not going to work but if your SMV is reasonably high then it's fine. Honestly man, if you want to tell her she's pretty j…
/r/TheRedPill11/07/16 01:16 AM
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Yeah, didn't that guy already know that he fucked OP first, fair's fair. And what's he going to do, kill him? I say go for it OP.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/16 12:59 AM
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Fuck that shit, walk in during the marriage and show everyone the photos. Full screen it on a projector.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/16 12:12 AM
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Most of the migrants who went to Europe aren't even from Syria, it's mostly Afghans, Moroccans, Iraqis and so on.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/16 12:07 AM
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I'm not going to get married just so I can buy something more quickly. If I have a kid I assume that I'd be married before anyway, or I could find a way to live more cheaply. Either way, we have free healthcare in my country. If I don't have that much money I'll deal with it. Getting married is a very risky, semi-permanent solution to a temporary problem. Men are starting to understand on a large scale that marriage doesn't lock a woman down, it locks him down for her. Men marry because women wa…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 11:40 PM
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Yeah, read the last line I wrote. It's a status symbol for a different reason though, men aren't impressed when a man marries a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 11:29 PM
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Men don't care that much for resources, that's a chick thing. Any man making a decent income can have everything he actually needs and be happy. He doesn't need a woman so he can have luxury futons.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 10:57 PM
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I'm not really at the sort of age when I can tell from the people around me but I don't think it's a problem. The only criticism would just be a case of sour grapes from men who did get married and hate seeing men actually follow their sexual imperative, and fucking as many women as possible absolutely is just that, just as a woman locking down a man is her following her sexual imperative. Look at Charlie Harper in Two and a Half Men. Sure, he catches a lot of flak from his brother and pretty mu…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 10:36 PM
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Eh, not really, all guys know the reality of marriage, which means that you're locked down to one vagina for the rest of your life (and you probably won't be getting that much realistically). Men have an innate drive to put their weewees in many different vaginas. and we all know it deep down. Women don't really have that, women use their vaginas like a tool to get whatever it is that they want, not that they don't enjoy sex, just that they don't have the same urge for variety that men do. The s…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 10:23 PM
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There's points on both sides, I think it falls in the middle somewhere. Men have more than just an urge to splooge inside vaginas, it's more than just the physical sensation and physical appearances. Men have a fundamental need for female validation, which they get when a woman spreads her legs. With that said, porn has made it easier for men who have a harder time with women to remain vaguely satisfied, and with VR porn and sexbots coming I think it's just going to continue. More and more men a…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/16 10:10 PM
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I did read it, the point is that it's boiling down to semantics. My arguments are based on theory and observation, not based on how I feel or want to think. If that doesn't fit the criteria for science, that's fine, I don't particularly care, but it doesn't change the facts of my arguments. Is it less definitive, sure, of course, but at the same time hard sciences, or real sciences, are also not always one hundred percent accurate either. This isn't a case of one field being infallible, and the …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 05:35 PM
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It's not hamster. No, psychology isn't physics, but it can still be argued to be a science. http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/the-curious-wavefunction/is-psychology-a-e2809creale2809d-science-does-it-really-matter/ Call it soft science or whatever, it doesn't matter, but it's still science. EDIT: I'm not a psychologist, so I have no stake in the matter either way.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/07/16 04:56 PM
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You act angry as shit. Not sure what's up there though. That paragraph was just a bit of fun, but sure there's some truth to it. There are girls that aren't too bad and that I find more interesting than others, but I'll still hang out with the ones that aren't. I don't think women are kids really, but yeah, I don't hate kids either even though they're kind of annoying and boring and underdeveloped. I'm not looking for or expecting an equal, and I don't hate them for not living up to impossible s…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/07/16 12:01 AM
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Why do you see insecurity that they have to prove something over them wanting to utilize their time as well as possible? Even the ones that don't utilize their time well are still insecure and more ambitious, they just procrastinate and get lazy. Either way, their sense of urgency for greater sexual validation is much higher than betas. It doesn't mean that they'll be more active, it just means that they see it as more urgent and are more ambitious about it. They don't have the 'this is good eno…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/16 11:20 PM
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Psychology is a science, you're wrong, and yes what I'm saying is perfectly applicable as a scientific theory. It's from a rationalist perspective, because you aren't going to come near the conclusion I've reached if you insist on getting there by reading scientific journals. It's important that people do try and get there with an open mind but it's obvious whose minds are firmly closed before even starting.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 11:17 PM
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Your stance is not well inforned, but you want it to be treated as such. Not going to happen. You're back-tracking because you're sloppy and you admitted to not having an open mind. "science is rigged" Science is more of a method, not an institution like the Church. Come to recognise it. Talking about evolution isn't pseudo-science, and suggesting that scientific institutions are fundamentally corrupt doesn't mean I don't agree with science, I just reject your terrible application of it. Saying …
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 11:06 PM
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Could it be reduced down to strong willed vs weak willed? It seems like it, but almost seems too simple. Look up type A and type B personalities. Alphas are insecure, obsessed with proving their worth, far more ambitious, and generally more masculine. I interpreted real pleasure as in her orgasming gives the man pleasure and that is real pleasure since it's indirect. He gets pleasure from the idea, she gets pleasure from the act. Yeah I mean sex feels good physically for guys too, but it's more …
/r/TheRedPill06/07/16 07:35 PM
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Do you think betas literally lack the intellectual and emotional depth of alphas? Oh yeah for sure. Real pleasure as in, pleasure that contains an intellectual and understanding element? Real probably wasn't the right word, who's to say what counts as real, right? But it's better yeah. You don't want to be just masturbating in her vagina. The better you fuck her the better the experience is and the better you feel after. It's not just about ejaculating, it's mental for guys too.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/16 06:06 PM
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They care about the guy's pleasure because being a good whore keeps him around.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/16 04:30 PM
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If men were so much more empathetic, they wouldn't do so many cruel things. Who started genocides? Men are capable of empathy, but it doesn't mean they exercise it. There are terrible men in the world who do awful things, and in bad situations the more violent side of men can come out. The sociopathy of women is ubiquitous however and they exercise it to get what they want. Women don't want genocides, or war because it doesn't really benefit them, they aren't psychopaths. Men are the ones who st…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 04:05 PM
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To a woman, any kids she has are hers but she'll keep the father around for the ride if he still has any value left in him. This poor guy can't offer her anything more than the state can, so naturally she cuts the cord with him. The worst thing is that at the end it says she's getting married again and buying a house with a new guy, what a fucking dumbass.
/r/MGTOW06/07/16 02:38 PM
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So, unless you're gaining something from this conversation that I'm unaware of At this point I'm just curious as to whether you'll accept that there isn't even a shred of bitterness or anger on my part. I love girls. I like smart girls and sweet girls, and I'm not interested in just getting sex. I mean if there was real bitterness and anger I'd be out of the game. Some of the shit you guys say and do makes me want to strangle you and if a guy did any of that shit I'd probably actually do it. See…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 02:33 PM
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They get the act because they're capable of paying the price. What I'm saying is that women won't submit to your sexual imperative.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/16 12:55 PM
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Don't believe this for a second. The extent to which you fail to understand women doesn't correlate with much successful interaction with them. Ha, okay, believe what you want. The fact that there's established proof of the opposite is what makes it false. And not just indirectly measured research but actual ascertained neural pathways associated with empathy that are present in the neurology of both genders. Women have a higher emotional response to stimuli but that doesn't mean they are sincer…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/07/16 12:54 PM
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Yes, they enjoy being successful whores, but they don't submit with regards to your sexual imperative, which is my point.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/16 12:34 PM
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Yes and no. I still have a rational mind, which has many times kept me out of prison for following my compulsions. Your mind is biological. Now. That is now. Modern Western Civilization. You need to spend more time in history. And why is that? Look, no one's saying hookers can't be fun, it's just that you don't get your nutrition from it. You don't get the validation that you want. Not really. My looks are mine. The photons that bounce off me and hit her eyes belong to the sun. Many women have g…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/16 12:32 PM
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Dude, women barely ever sacrifice themselves for men. You'll get some weird anomalies like with everything but there's no trend. She follows her sexual imperative to the T.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/16 12:21 PM
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Yeah negro, summoned me up. Sorry I'm late, I was busy doing business. She'll never feel your pain or sacrifice her pursuit of her own sexual imperative for you. I don't know, I think you can still have relationships with women that are valuable but it's getting really hard because women are too easily being presented with options and distractions. Women will only act in your interest if helping you is going to help her. It doesn't mean they want everyone else to suffer, because they don't, but …
/r/TheRedPill06/07/16 12:20 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8doG7_-jN4 This is me and you right now. I do understand just how difficult it is for you to get that I'm not bitter or saying that you're all of these things in a pejorative way. I'm being 100% literal, not kidding at all, not exaggerating at all. You have to imagine this crazy abstract idea in which a person simply does things because he feels compelled to, not for any emotional purpose or to make himself feel better about some shortcoming. I just like talking …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 05:38 PM
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Aren't they all seriously obese though?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 05:23 PM
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WRONG Women never submit, not even to alphas. Like you said, they may feign submission but women never submit.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 05:17 PM
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I do like women. Respect? No, but I like them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 05:14 PM
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Lol I'm definitely not depressed, and I don't struggle with women either. Women love what I can do for them and I love giving it to them (not just talking about sex). Just because there's no establishment approved proof of it doesn't mean it isn't true. In what world would anyone ever actually be able to research and publish something like that? Certainly not in this world. Just as the Church repressed the study of science, our society will never allow anyone to talk about this. It's modern day …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 05:12 PM
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Oh boo, you're not even trying, just doubling down on the projection and shaming. Why even come to this sub if not to learn something?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 05:04 PM
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Yeah I was just checking, because you might have been a chick and that would make sense but it turns out you're just a mangina.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 05:04 PM
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But are you?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 04:27 PM
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Are you a girl?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 04:16 PM
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You know that people figured out that the Earth was round before anyone had ever flown into outer space to expose it in its entirety right?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 03:56 PM
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But you get my point?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 03:53 PM
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The Earth is flat, I mean look at it. You can't seriously believe the Earth is round do you? Just look at it, it's fucking flat and you'd be crazy to think otherwise.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 03:44 PM
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I'd find this conversation less hurtful strikes me as really paradoxically heartless Even your framing is heartless I'm not experiencing you as empathetic right now. "Me, me, me, look how your language is affecting me" Seriously, count how many times you say 'I', 'me', or 'mine' in your post, go on. I'm sure you don't intend it that way but, seriously, do you think I'm intentionally lying or that I'm living a lie? then your reality is a dark and confusing place and I'd rather not engage with you…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 03:41 PM
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Yep, completely sociopathic. No, I have enough experience with women.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 03:17 PM
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He is literally a bullshit peddler. This is fucking nonsense. He's talking about mystic wisdom. Jesus Christ.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 01:58 PM
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Uh no, as long as he's admitting to not thinking for himself, he's not thinking for himself. He literally said he makes his mind up based on what's in the side-bar, i.e. what he's being told.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 01:56 PM
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I'm not watching a three and a half hour video obviously, when I've been thoroughly unimpressed by what you've been saying all this time. Use your own words and tell me.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 01:50 PM
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First of all, stop writing like you're composing a fucking poem. Try to use actual prose so you can construct a real argument. You're a complete fraud. You don't know a thing about male and female psychology, you're just a conspiracy theorist who thinks that if only we could put things right then everyone could live happily ever after. Yes, before feminism human laws were created to make sure families were as stable as possible and to ensure human proliferation. Your logical error was to assume,…
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 01:01 PM
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I'm not unhappy at all, or bitter, or angry, or anything. I find it impossible to be angry at women because they literally aren't capable of doing anything else, and honestly I can't help but feel bad for them at times. I'm incapable of not being empathetic to people that I've become attached to, even the ones that exposed me to STDs and stuff. You simply have to believe me when I say I'm not being angry, it's just by nature that you really are all awful people and there's nothing you can do abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 12:29 PM
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My point is that women never do anything to please you, unless it benefits them. Men will destroy themselves for a woman and will do things that harm them just because they want the woman to feel good. I think most people generally act in a selfish way but only men are capable of empathy, and they will act against their self-interest because they know to not do so would hurt other people. Now you can say that this is still self-interested, but it's not really the same because the important thing…
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 12:16 PM
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Hey let me know when you finally get around to swallowing TRP, it'll probably happen after your unicorn mamacita traumatizes you.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 12:12 PM
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In the 1800's the laws were such that they obeyed the Natural Laws perfectly because it was important to them at the time. That makes literally no sense. If they're natural laws then they wouldn't require man-made laws in order to work properly would they?
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 02:50 AM
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You're biologically incapable of sincere empathy so I wouldn't even bother trying. What you want is to understand male nature better, but don't think for a moment that you can ever put yourself in anyone else's shoes. You can't. Men require female sexual validation, the more and the higher quality the better. Incels get none of that. Think about it, everything is dictated by evolution. The thing that makes babies is a man's obsession with receiving female sexual validation. Incels normally don't…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/07/16 02:44 AM
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LOL, TRP is 95% 'how to be a better beta' with some casual misogyny thrown in. I hate seeing that low energy filth.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 02:37 AM
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But you think they're scheming as if they actually had the intelligence to do that. They don't, women are fucking morons. Like I said, women hardly ever lie and when they do it's incredibly obvious, they're shit liars. They simply have a different frame of mind, and when men who still project their own thinking onto women try to rationalise their actions, they just assume that it must be conscious. The idea that people were RP before feminism is a myth, it's simply the way that society was const…
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 02:28 AM
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I don't think anyone blindly follows anything Well that guy basically just admitted it. I don't disagree with anything else you said. I'm right, I know I'm right and no one actually has an argument against me.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 02:22 AM
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I'm not saying that, there's plenty of 'red pills' to take on different subjects. I'm talking purely in the context of male-female dynamics.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 02:09 AM
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so how do you explain when they fuck complete losers and even pay for their shit? Ive seen them trade good male material for a total disaster of a man, outta looks or because said guy had a band. Because these guys give them an emotional thrill because they themselves don't have the capacity to think or feel deeply, and so require men who can in order to experience it vicariously. They might be losers, but they're not boring.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 02:08 AM
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There is no such thing as unconditional love, not even in men There is actually. Love isn't the same as commitment, but men can feel deep empathy for anyone, which is what I call love. Either way, that's what I mean. A woman can destroy a man and he'll still have feelings for her in some way, however small. It seems apparent that men tend to be far more idyllic than women, and subscribe to all kinds of fantasies and hopes of achievements. This is likely because there is a biological need for men…
/r/TheRedPill04/07/16 01:39 AM
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Women are purely solipsistic. They're biologically incapable of sincere empathy for others which means they cannot love unconditionally. Women love children the way they love chocolate, not the way men love women. There's no blue pill indoctrination, women don't lie that much, and they're actually terrible liars because they aren't that smart and aren't able to empathise in order to know how to deceive, their deceit is instinctual. They simply deceive through their actions and by lying by omissi…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/16 09:51 PM
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They're whores because they only fuck if you offer them something. They can't love and they don't fuck for free.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/16 09:38 PM
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That have been added and I approve of the additions. That doesn't mean that you're right. But let me explain this to you because you obviously don't get it at all. To you TRP is a lifestyle guide, that's why you don't really give a shit about women's true nature, and also because you don't really seem to want to know. Why do you think I give a shit what other people do? I don't at all. I find it hilarious that people get married, and I'm not strictly against LTRs at all. I just call it out when …
/r/TheRedPill03/07/16 08:58 PM
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Nope. Women are literally whores, it's not a pejorative or a metaphor. There's no anger behind it.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/16 08:55 PM
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Nah, I know that well enough, there are very few who genuinely believe it.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/16 07:56 PM
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If Rollo Tomassi and The Rational Male is suddenly removed from our sidebar then maybe your arguments might hold some weight. Holy shit, think for yourself. The fact that those things are on the sidebar doesn't mean they must be right. You really are a follower. Until then I'm content for those who feel they cannot see life as anything but Plating to continue repeating that mantra to themselves. Why do you keep bringing that up? I never even mentioned it. You do know they just added a new catego…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/16 07:37 PM
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I can simply say I don't agree with you. I don't give a fuck dude, you're still wrong and you're still peddling bullshit that you don't even understand yourself. Women are not submissive because being innately submissive doesn't get them what they want. What is this woowoo feminine spirit that makes her submissive and where did it come from? I'm pretty sure it came right out of your ass. You see women acting submissive and you assume that they must be submissive because you don't understand the …
/r/TheRedPill03/07/16 07:08 PM
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Or it's possible you have always failed in life and have never seen success. This is such a standard PP response. My family was Red Pill and my dad had Amused Mastery with my mother and things worked well. Unlikely, your family was just traditional and your dad was high value. Having game doesn't mean you get it. I know from my own experience that women want to get into a state of comfort with a strong masculine presence. That doesn't mean they're submitting. Do bodyguards own the person they're…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/16 06:29 PM
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Lmao no. Dummies on here still don't get it. Women are whores and they only enjoy being successful whores, and part of being a successful whore is pleasing the man she's taking from. She's only submissive in a sexual/playful way because she knows she's going to get you hooked on her so she can get your shit, whether that's emotional or material shit. Women will never compromise on their sexual imperative for you, not ever. As soon as you stop giving her what she wants she'll dump the fuck out of…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/16 06:11 PM
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Women actually want to submit to a masculine man. No they don't, they want to own a masculine man. You still haven't got it.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/16 05:16 PM
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This is what happens when you let women and cucks take over. Women will selfishly pursue their imperative to any end with zero regard to for how it affects men, unless how they affect men affects themselves. Trump 2016
/r/TheRedPill03/07/16 01:14 AM
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Marriage laws will only change when women want them to change, and that will only happen when the enough women are no longer able to lock a man down. It'll be a while.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/16 12:10 AM
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That doesn't mean they don't have one, it just means they just develop it very minimally.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/16 07:05 PM
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I suspect there is no "real them" they portray who they want people to think they are Everyone does this. Who you actually think is 'you' is just your ego. It's a hard philosophical concept to get your head around but it's the truth. Just because they act in a way that's deceitful doesn't mean that they're hiding their personality, it's more simply that she's hiding her personality in plain sight and that part of her personality is her deceitfulness. Their act is perfectly natural, they're natur…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/16 06:31 PM
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No doubt, but underneath that they still have their own personality. Chameleons have many different colours but they're still chameleons underneath it all. A chameleon doesn't turn into a leaf just because it disguises itself as one.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/16 06:00 PM
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wtf are you talking about dude, yes they do. They are sluts and whores who will deceive to get what they want but they're still people with personalities, not robots.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/16 05:31 PM
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Basically women will never truly submit to you or be yours, no matter how high your SMV is. She's a whore and if she doesn't get what she wants she'll leave you.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/16 05:05 PM
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I guarantee that I'm more attractive than you and pull in more women on a regular basis I don't doubt it. I'm twenty two year old sitting in my pyjamas eating rice at 4:30 in the afternoon. None of that changes the fact that you're a dumbass.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/16 03:37 PM
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Still nope. They don't enjoy it at all, it's simply that they enjoy the fact that you're high value, and abundance mentality demonstrates higher value. If she feels she won't get anything out of you, she won't care. See, you do it in a teasing way, which is to demonstrate your value, but if you genuinely treat them like shit they won't enjoy that at all. They will only stick around if they're either traumatized by your abuse or if they have nothing better. Lol and they'll fuck for free if you ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 02:48 PM
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Yes, she will. Women cheat on their dominant, successful rich gorgeous alpha husbands just as much as beta husbands. Because their high value husbands aren't giving them everything they want. If the husband neglects his wife emotionally she will cheat. A girl who I was much higher value than cheated on me with a 5'5 manlet because he was willing to give her attention and I neglected her. Women always cheat for a reason.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/16 01:32 PM
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From my experience, all women like being treated like shit. During sex they do, but that's it. Go up to any girl and call her a slut in a perfectly plain way. She will lose her mind and definitely not enjoy it. You can only get away with it if you're high value and say it in a playful/sexual way. And even if youre a threat to her sexual imperative, it still makes her pussy wet that you don't respect her , care about her and don't give her resources If you're low value and you don't respect her s…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 01:30 PM
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No, every man wants women's sexual-emotional validation. You do want more than access to her holes otherwise you would just go to prostitutes and be interested in rape (although you probably wouldn't for moral/legal reasons). The truth is that for sex to be truly satisfying the woman has to want it and the man has to be validated. all men, both alphas and betas.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/16 01:23 PM
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No that isn't true. A woman won't cheat if she's getting everything that she wants from a man.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/16 01:01 PM
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It's not even that, women are more solipsistic and narcissistic than you're giving them credit for. Women love men who treat them like they're princesses but only when they're high value. Women love Chris Pratt because he's insanely high value and they know he's a beta male who'll treat her like a queen. Sure, women feel shame for being whores, but they won't let that shame impede their sexual strategy. If a a high enough value beta male comes along she will take him. Women hate low value alphas…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 12:58 PM
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No I disagree with that last point. Fucking her and tossing her to the side is a good way to avoid the inevitable trauma that comes from being attached to a woman, but you won't get the sexual-emotional validation that you crave from her. The only healthy, in my opinion, way of going about it is to accept how women are and play along anyway, but always having an out. This almost always ends badly for beta type males because they get so invested that they begin to destroy themselves for her valid…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/16 12:56 PM
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Not all women are sluts Wrong. This is where you are going terribly wrong. You still think that women can love unconditionally, it's wrong, they are biologically incapable of doing so. The female simply cannot. Women only love what a man can offer her, whether it's material or emotional, but she will only take and she will not fuck for free. She will pretend to love you and pretend to be submissive if she needs to in order to get what she wants but she will not love you unconditionally. This is …
/r/TheRedPill02/07/16 12:53 PM
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It doesn't matter, they believe their women isn't a whore who will divorce rape them the moment she feels it's best for her. You could say that the penalty for a man who's divorced is death and many many men would still marry.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 01:56 AM
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Not feminists, not blue pillers, just all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/16 01:54 AM
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You need real therapy because she's traumatized you. Get a genuinely good therapist, not a woman or a mangina who just wants to give you 'feel good therapy'.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/16 12:43 AM
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I do what I do for my objectives. Which are dictated by your biological imperatives, not your delusions. Historically, they did. Prostitution is limited by religious or governmental objectives, not by the willingness of men to use it as a release. In victorian england it was extremely comment for married men to use prostitutes to get what their proper wives would not provide. And they still didn't get the satisfaction they really needed. Hardly anyone actually visits prostitutes even though you …
/r/TheRedPill02/07/16 12:08 AM
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It has nothing to do with how 'hard' you are. You don't create the world for your purposes. You're evolution's bitch, you don't have a choice and if you don't play by its rules you'll find yourself perpetually dissatisfied. If all you had was a physical need everyone would just pay prostitutes but they don't because what they really really crave is validation. It's why your wife's duty sex gives you no satisfaction either. You can't remove the need anymore than you can just decide you no longer …
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 11:31 PM
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Stop eating and drinking for two days and then come back and tell me how happy you feel, then eat and drink something and don't lie to me and tell me that you don't feel happier. Zen and mindfulness is worthwhile, but the pursuit of sexual validation is not something that OP can put away, it will always eat at him and he knows this, it is biologically ingrained in him. He'll live, sure, and he can still take joy out of different parts of life, but he will never be able to stop chasing it. Again,…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 10:50 PM
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Alphas always crave sexual fulfillment, they don't have a choice. Of course, find ways to be happy outside of sex and relationships, that's a given. I'm not helping OP to be happy, I'm helping him to be sexually fulfilled. EDIT: He won't be as happy as he can be if he isn't getting sexual fulfillment though.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 10:41 PM
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I take that second part of my post back. Actually she'll almost always demand a verbal apology.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 10:26 PM
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Not necessarily. Alphas fall hard in love like all men naturally do. He gives her what she wants in exchange for sexual validation and if at any point he feels that she is no longer worth the effort, or in other words she is impeding his sexual imperative, he'll leave her. An alpha could definitely stay with a woman for life if she doesn't abuse him, it's simply that this is quite rare. Fucking and chucking doesn't bring the fulfillment that an alpha needs as the thread about that guy who had se…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 10:22 PM
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I see that too in subtle shit tests, for example in front of friends my SO will sometimes tell a story that's lightly embarrassing, I think to see how I react and if I'm confident enough. If I protest or act like a care, I look bad and insecure. If I don't, I look bad but also good, and this is submitting. You're submitting if you don't challenge her, but if you challenge her she won't bend, so if you want to keep fucking her you'd better be the one that does the bending. You want to pass the sh…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 10:20 PM
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ALL women are sluts. AWALT. You obviously haven't swallowed the pill if you don't understand that. Women cannot pair bond because they cannot love unconditionally, they can only extract in a purely narcissistic manner. WAKE UP and listen or don't waste my fucking time. You're just a dumb tradcon masquerading as a red-pilled 'Almost alpha!' which is what most of this sub promotes.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 10:14 PM
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Dirty talk is part of it sure. I mean giving her thrill, giving her an emotional, intellectual, spiritual etc. experience that she's biologically incapable of having by herself. We talk about how women are simply incapable of deeper emotional and intellectual thought (why women are never the great philosophers and artists) but they do crave it, and only an alpha male himself has the depth to give it to her. That's why women love alpha males, not because of his status, but because he is a real ma…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 10:04 PM
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But if she was really being submissive she would let you. Women will hurt a man's social image and a man's ego but he will allow it to happen because he is being submissive. A woman will not. You have to understand how a woman acts in contrast with a man to see the reality. Now if a man refuses to concede to the woman she will not give him sex, and that's why a man can never be the dominant one in a relationship. She's going to get mad at you and you're going to fucking apologize if you want her…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 09:40 PM
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All women will attempt to dominate the man, and to what extent is wholly dependent on how it helps to fulfill her sexual imperative, so a man must concede if he wants to have sex. A beta will submit fully to the female, but an alpha will simply concede by feigning submission, however he won't sacrifice his own pursuit of his sexual imperative for the female, so it's not real submission, just as a woman's submission isn't real because she isn't sacrificing anything for him.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 09:35 PM
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Simple, you're an alpha who requires real validation from women and you're not getting it because drunk hook-ups and cheap one night stands aren't enough. If you could get real satisfaction from just the act of sex itself we'd all be fucking prostitutes, but we know that this sex is fake and unsatisfying. What you need is to find a woman that you're strongly attracted to who will give you the validation that you want, and you can only get that validation by giving to the woman. Yeah, not dominat…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 09:31 PM
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Well this sub completely misunderstands what an alpha actually is and his mentality. To them the alpha is a caricature of a macho man, so they try to emulate that, and it looks so stupid that women can't help but laugh, but it doesn't matter because she's still getting something out of it. An alpha is desperate to please women sexually and emotionally because alphas are driven by insecurity. Most alphas don't really demand (only really stupid alphas) because they know that they're not going to d…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 09:04 PM
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I've made it very clear that women only want to be dominated during sex. Go up to any girl and call her a slut without any sexual or playful undertones (and even then this will only work if she considers you high value enough) and see how much she loves submitting and being denigrated. Turns out she doesn't and will flip her shit. Contrast this with the submissive beta who will accept this abuse. Women will not take criticism, if you call a woman an idiot (again unless it's playful and even then…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 08:41 PM
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Nope. "come over friday bb, we can watch netflix while you lick my balls ;)" Pay a prostitute five hundred dollars and she'll do that too. Are you dominating her? No she's a whore who accepts her payment in cash, but all women are whores in one way or another and will demand payment. You do not get your way with her.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 08:14 PM
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Wrong again. Jesus fucking Christ, how many times am I going to have to start my posts like that. The only way to not submit to a woman is to not play. By passing her shit-tests you are not dominating her, you're simply displaying your value as a mate. She wants you to pass her shit-tests because she wants to see a high value man go for her pussy. Only an alpha can't be controlled, because while he may feign submission to get sex by passing shit-tests, his sexual imperative will always come abov…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 08:02 PM
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No they do not. Women love only what a man can give them and make them feel, not the man himself. She is incapable of sincere empathy for him, and all this because to not be would be gravely disadvantageous to a woman's sexual imperative. I find it bizarre to the max that you're calling my posts blue pill when you're the one insisting that women aren't all whores by nature, and that men and women can love each other and live happily ever after. Seriously, fucking read your posts.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 07:48 PM
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The man always comes from the weak end of the power dynamic, except during sex. For a relationship to occur the man must concede. I'm not saying that OP could be doing better, because he will probably get the sex that he wants, I'm just saying he's wrong. She only submits during the sex act and men seem to think this makes her submissive as a whole. NOPE. Try calling her a slut in a non-playful, non-sexual way and see how submissive she is then.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 07:44 PM
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That's not true! It is blue pill idealism to believe that a woman's sexual imperative aligns with a man's. Everyone here who is like 'no bruh, women love it when I dominate them' are just examples of how good they are at deceiving men, and I'm sorry if that sounds kafka-esque but it's true. This is why women don't laugh at and try to keep shit like 'the manipulated man' a secret but will happily advertise the manosphere in blogs, media outlets etc. They're not laughing at or being disgusted by T…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 07:39 PM
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It's not that far off, but yeah TRP is not entirely all the way ironically enough. TRP goes far but very few people in this sub or in the manosphere more generally have swallowed the reality that is that women naturally seek to dominate and will not accept true submission.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 06:40 PM
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I'm just saying that OP is wrong, not that what he is doing is wrong.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 06:38 PM
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You could very well be spot on about her playing him, but it's hard to get a read on a person from a few lines of text. It's difficult to read French if you don't understand French, but someone who understands French will have no problem doing so. In this case, you just have to understand female nature and it becomes very obvious. I don't see a problem. If he gets laid, then good. If he doesn't then he nexts her, and learns from it. But sure. OP will get the emotional validation that he requires…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 05:58 PM
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I don't sense that in any of her replies. So what? Just because you aren't perceptive enough doesn't mean it isn't true. So you don't think women like someone who takes charge of the situation and dictates the terms. Basically the definition of alpha. No, women want and must dictate the terms of the relationship. You deciding what you want to eat doesn't impede on her sexual strategy, and in fact, her playing the role of a submissive woman simply makes her more attractive to you, doesn't it? She…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 05:56 PM
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That's not the reason. Not having sex on the first date doesn't make you beta.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 05:29 PM
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She doesn't think you're alpha, she thinks you're a beta with confidence who's willing to pretend to be alpha to get her pussy. She finds it hilarious that you're demanding her to do things. You really believe that she thinks for a fucking second that anyone actually says "Damn straight, and we're cooking dinner" and isn't just putting on a bullshit act? Okay well, news flash, she already has you down as 'potential high status beta' and is going to test you and test you and test you, and you're …
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 05:24 PM
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Women don't pair bond lmao. It's so funny when I get called blue pill.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 04:47 PM
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A damaged woman won't change in this lifetime. She isn't damaged, she's a perfectly healthy female who is following her sexual imperative with no compromise as all healthy females do. It wouldn't matter if she hadn't ridden the CC, this relationship will not end well for the man. EDIT: It's a blue pill fantasy to believe that women like this are damaged. She is maximizing her sexual success through alpha fucks/beta bucks. She will trap the beta while fucking alphas, and eventually she'll divorce…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 02:23 PM
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This whole post is 100% speculation. For all you know, they will live happily ever after. Damn dawg, time to swallow that pill. There is absolutely no happily ever after because women are not capable of love and this beta called Daniel has a short expiration date.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 02:20 PM
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It was common throughout our relationship to hear Angelica worry about what Giovanna was doing, mostly because she feared that she would catch something. Ha, nope. She doesn't give a shit, she's calling her friend a slut so you think that she isn't.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 12:09 PM
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Social justice is a tool to further the feminine imperative. Don't be fooled by that shit.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/16 12:07 PM
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No. Women hate themselves because they're whores. They're incapable of sincere, deep emotion and empathy. I genuinely feel bad for them. I'm not remotely envious of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/16 12:32 AM
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Let me know when you get around to watching it and let me know what you think.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/16 11:57 PM
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Whether you are alpha or beta has nothing to do with how attractive you are. You're a beta dude, there's nothing more to it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBcWKaF2t2g If you have time (make time), you should watch this video. He explains it very well.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/16 10:17 PM
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That's cool. I figured I'd swallowed the pill until I watched a couple of his videos, but they shoved it down my throat lol. The reality is that this sub is predominantly purple pill as it stands. It's really little more than PUA/self-improvement, too nice, too hopeful. Those videos are gold, it's the real deal.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/16 10:13 PM
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I have a ton of friends, make great money, and am in the process of building a real estate business thatll have me done my working life by 30. That means you're a good beta. You have a lot to offer her. You don't become alpha or beta, you're born that way. This isn't some kind of dick-measuring contest on my part. I imagine you have a higher SMV than I do so let's just say that now so you can get the stick out of your ass. You can either take it or don't, and I don't imagine you will, but she is…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/16 09:53 PM
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Yeah, it's obvious. I don't know everything about you, but you're 100% beta and you haven't swallowed the pill so you're setting yourself up to get fucked real hard.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/16 09:35 PM
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I thought the book was basically clever satire at first, taking certain truths and blowing them out of proportion. Nope! It's all true. Esther Villar is a deviant woman who let slip what she really thought and felt and women hate her for it.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/16 08:38 PM
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He mistook an ent for a tree.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/16 08:36 PM
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It's actually not, it's simply that men don't understand what counts as the best option. A woman will stick around for as long as she feels that her sexual imperative is being best pursued. Of course, you will be her bitch in some way or another, but it is possible. Can't say it's advisable but it is possible, just difficult and not worth it tbh.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/16 08:10 PM
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Unless you've been raised by women since birth. What, so they can indoctrinate you ever more? The chick is in a position of submission if she wants the guys commitment but all he wants is to fuck. Buyer/Seller dynamic. Elaborate this for me pls. I don't mean for sex. The man has to dominate her for sex, it is the one act of domination that he really gets. She's not in a position of submission if all the guy wants is sex (i.e. he is an alpha and he wants to dominate her) and she wants his commitm…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/16 08:01 PM
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Domination is a testosterone based desire. Nope. Pulled that out of your ass. Women want to control their men. In other words...? I got no idea where you got your ideas from but they run not only against everything that's discussed in the manosphere as a whole but also against everything I've learned being around women. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEM33mODaIk I learned it from this guy. This is the real red pill and his entire channel is filled to the brim with gold. You must watch that vide…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/16 06:14 PM
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No bro, trust me, they don't. This purple pill delusion that infects this sub is unbearable. Women are the choosers, and they are ruthless in the pursuit of their sexual strategy. They'll play the role of a submissive partner to trap the male but ultimately she will not bend for him. Only unhealthy, genuinely abused women will actually submit to their partner. Shit-tests aren't to see if you're a good enough mate because you're witty, it's a test of submission. She's seeing how much shit she can…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/16 04:36 PM
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Women want to be dominated sexually but that's where it ends. They have no interest in being dominated in any other way. You're still deluded if you think women desperately want to submit to their 'alpha bucks'.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/16 03:53 PM
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https://youtu.be/ZJWpPzrRVFo (link didn't work, it's the face at around 44 minutes when he says that she's taking his pension and she smirks inside) THAT LOOK boys. She knows she's fucking him and she feels nothing for doing so. They don't care, it's disadvantageous to a female's sexual strategy to care. AWALT. Oh and by the way, the mediators are all women because women won't immediately call out women on their shit. A real man with integrity would never succeed as a mediator because he wouldn'…
/r/MGTOW30/06/16 02:23 PM
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OP - 'I know AWALT, but NAWALT bro'
/r/TheRedPill30/06/16 02:18 PM
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You can't become alpha, you're either alpha or beta to your core. OP is beta and has already submitted to his bride to be. The best hope is that he'll be good enough for her long term and she won't abuse him too much.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/16 02:16 PM
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Romance is still perfectly possible, it's simply that more and more women are too vile to consider as romantic prospects. All women are whores, but fewer and fewer are maintaining the illusion that they aren't, and for a man to feel 'love' for a woman he has to be under that illusion. Of course, for most men this romance will only end badly, only a select few lucky betas, who are high status enough and who chose well enough to not be abused by the woman that they've chosen to submit to, will eve…
/r/MGTOW30/06/16 12:56 PM
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But her social circle will only shame her for giving the game away, not for wanting to control her man. All women understand that women want to control their men and they'll support each other in that regard. This was certainly not pushing the boundaries with regards to her social circle.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/16 07:07 PM
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If it's real, she knew that it was unacceptable, but it was a big shit test. There comes a point for alpha/type A men who are intelligent when you just have to cut the cord, and this was that point. Simply put, this is a RPed man to some extent and he understands (again to some extent that's hard to know) that women will always attempt to make him submit and that it's either her way or the highway. You can't game your woman for life, you're either her beta or you're of no use to her. A genuine a…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/16 06:53 PM
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Yep. He pretty much knows it's over the moment she says she's going on the trip, their conversation was just the confirmation. No need to get angry at that point, she's demanding his submission and Pete has no interested in submitting. It could be anything, but once your girl begins to demand your submission, and she will, you have no choice in the matter, the relationship is as good as over.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/16 05:08 PM
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OP, turn it down. You'll burn out if you go this hard and fast and become a recluse because you'll feel ashamed. Ease down on the throttle and keep your cool. Play it off like you splashed once to cause a bit of a ruckus for fun, but don't keep splashing, seriously.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/16 03:23 PM
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She's a proponent for the EU, but the EU itself is much much larger than her, and much larger even than the people within it. It's the product of an unapologetic globalist ideology. His speech isn't for the EU and its members, it's for the people of Europe, so talking about how the other MEPs feel about him or his speech is irrelevant. I mean yeah, you can take note of his confidence and good speaking skills, but that's a political analysis and it has nothing to do with women at all. Maybe the w…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/16 02:40 PM
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It's a good political analysis, but I honestly think it's too much of a stretch for TRP. The EU is a political institution and entity, not a woman, it doesn't think like a woman and it doesn't have the desires that a woman has. It's a fun comparison maybe, but I don't think it's relevant. I think the idea that the woman is attracted to Farage is also pretty far-fetched.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/16 10:50 PM
1

Eh, maybe. The truth is that most women aren't total narcissists like that, although the number is certainly increasing, however they do have traits that make them unsuitable for being with long term, for certain people in particular. What it has done is made me more aware of how narcissistic women behave and it gives me red flags before I even get involved, because it doesn't matter if it's just a plate, spending any amount of time with a narcissist will damage you in some way. There's really n…
/r/TheRedPill28/06/16 10:32 PM
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Yeah my mum is a pretty raging narcissist and is almost certainly cheating on my dad, or has, but I guess he is too now or whatever. Don't know, don't care, they're bad influences. I don't think he's a bad guy, just doesn't have any other options and doesn't even care anymore. He chose badly, which is weird to say, because I wouldn't be here if hadn't, but still. My sister's only twenty and god knows what she gets up to. She got into drugs when she was like fourteen or fifteen and 'went out' wit…
/r/TheRedPill28/06/16 05:19 PM
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Men have more testosterone and still don't beat the shit out of women at the rate that women beat the shit out of women. Gay men rarely beat the shit out of each other Why? Women are assholes and often are asking for it. Sorry, it's totally true. EDIT: Let me expand on that last point briefly. They're asking for it because they're attempting to dominate a guy who won't accept being dominated. The guy's response is to resort to physical violence. Not saying it's good, but it would barely happen i…
/r/TheRedPill28/06/16 04:33 PM
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Daaamn, that's the real truth. Once you're on the CC you can't just get off, and if you haven't already ridden, it looks incredibly tempting. Some girls just can't stop taking dicks. 5's will cheat on 7's because they have no impulse control and are too broken (and know it) to try and change (because they can't). Doesn't matter if you're alpha or whatever, she'll cheat because she can't live without dicks because she has no control over her life. If you have to go down the LTR route, she better …
/r/TheRedPill28/06/16 04:21 PM
1

She would do that with so many acquaintances around her? Suck a guy's dick an hour after meeting him knowing that their entire friendship group would know about it. The friends would then give this random stranger the husband's number, because of course that's what you do to the person that fucked your friend's wife, you don't tell him yourself, and then this random stranger who feels sorry for the husband doesn't explain what happened, but sends him nude pictures of his wife with a wink emotico…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/16 02:22 PM
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I got a text from a number I didn't recognize So she posed for nude photos for a stranger and then gave the person her husband's number so that he could text them to him. You think that? The most likely scenario is that she was drunk and just wanted to get naked. People do silly things, especially when they're drunk, or in a place where that silly thing is accepted and other people they know are doing it too. It's not an unreasonable suggestion at all. People can say and think one thing but then…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/16 11:26 PM
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Yeah, but I don't go around getting strangers to photograph blank worded dick pics to my girlfriend/partner/whatever without explanation and deliberately cut off contact with them for the lulz. Well you have no idea that it's a stranger if I remember correctly, and you don't know if she just deliberately cut off contact 'for the lulz'. The last point is strange but it doesn't mean she's cheating. Look, you keep ignoring the point that no one who cheats sends evidence of it to their partner, so t…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/16 10:50 PM
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Holy shit, you are paranoid beyond belief. Sometimes people just do silly things, especially when they're on holiday, and often it's not a big deal at all.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/16 10:24 PM
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That doesn't mean she's cheating. You're ignoring the fact that she would have sent or agreed to send a photo of herself naked to her husband. No one does that when they're cheating.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/16 09:58 PM
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She has poor judgement I guess, or maybe she just isn't such a prude. Either way, someone gave the person sending the message OP's number. So was it a stranger? Then how did he get the number and if OP's wife was cheating on him why the fuck would she give the guy OP's number??? Yeah it's not a good way to make OP feel better but women who are cheating on their husbands tend to hide it, not to give it away. She's in Europe where there are many nudist beaches and people don't care so much about n…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/16 08:06 PM
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Who are they from if they're not from her? How would the person who sent them have OP's number and why would that person send those pictures in the first place? If it is someone else, it's been given with OP's wife's permission in all likelihood. Maybe it's bad judgement from the guy's wife to have done it, probably, but grounds for divorce? Are you guys retarded?
/r/TheRedPill26/06/16 07:25 PM
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Yeah no shit but that disapproval isn't getting anyone (except in very rare cases) killed or put in prison.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/16 10:31 PM
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I think it'd be much much lower. There's a difference between not liking something and wanting something to be illegal. This isn't just fundamentalist muslims, this is from a poll for all muslims.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/16 09:43 PM
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52% of British muslims believe homosexuality should be illegal.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/16 09:27 PM
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They should build some walls.
/r/TheRedPill23/06/16 09:26 PM
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Eh, it's natural to still be angry if you were with her for five years and she cheated on you for two of them. It'll pass eventually, don't worry about it.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/16 12:20 AM
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This girl is obviously fucking crazy though so probably bullet dodged imo.
/r/TheRedPill10/06/16 03:26 AM
1

OP, I get that she probably over-reacted unless you're seriously over-exaggerating how 'respectful' you were (which I suspect you were). If you were making fun even a little bit or pushing it can come off quite badly on your part, especially because vegans have to deal with that shit all the time. I think you might not be revealing everything OP, if you could be more clear about what exactly you said and how you said it, that would be more useful. I get the impression you pushed the subject when…
/r/TheRedPill10/06/16 12:03 AM
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Eh, it depends where you go in Italy. The cities are just as bad as pretty much anywhere else. Girls from smaller cities and towns can be absolutely lovely but normally get 'corrupted' by big cities and universities if they leave. Don't go to Rome or Milan and expect nice girls. The best girls are from the south and Sardinia in my opinion, although maybe people have different experiences.
/r/TheRedPill07/06/16 07:09 PM
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Of course you have to be attuned to how the girl feels but let's be honest, it's hit and miss. You're going to be labeled a creep at some point, probably quite a lot, but you're going to have much more success if you're more sexually aggressive and physical. I guess it's worth having a think about when girls are open to touch but ultimately you're going to find lots of girls who don't like it and you're not going to realise until it's too late. You just have to stop giving a shit if they think y…
/r/TheRedPill07/06/16 02:28 PM
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I think I actually said 'oh does it?' (I have a posh british accent so just imagine that lmao). After that she smiled and I kept kissing her and trying to take her clothes off. After a while of her resisting I just got up and went to my room because I figured it wasn't going to happen (there's no magic button, sometimes it just doesn't happen). Then she came into my room and I was completely nude and I did the helicopter dick at her or something to that effect (IDK I was drunk). I don't bother a…
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 09:48 PM
2

Well the first time I was ever kissing girls I would ask them, or do that half-assed 'hurr I'm gonna kiss you now' bullshit, which is just a veil for asking permission, but really quickly afterwards I would just do it and read the signs. Even then if a girl is quite ambivalent towards you it can make a real difference to just nonchalantly go for it, it's a sign of having real balls. Men and women think about sex differently. For most guys, sex is about emptying your balls in the most satisfying …
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 09:16 PM
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Man I found it to be the opposite actually, this was the easiest thing in the world for me to figure out, and I'm pretty sure I figured it before even discovering TRP, although maybe that says something about me lmao. I was hooking up with a girl who was visiting her brother who was my flatmate (it's cool, we're cool) and she literally said 'no means no', and I was like 'ah yeah?' all douchey and shit and she ate it up. We didn't even fuck that night but the night after she initiated with me and…
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 08:51 PM
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So sad to see a good cunt get taken down like that. Don't worry, be a good person and a good father and your kids will eventually clock on and follow you. It might take a while but when they start hitting their late teens they'll see how horribly manipulative and narcissistic their mother is. You're going to come out really well from this down the line and you're still young with a good head on your shoulders.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 03:24 PM
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You wouldn't call a child a cunt would you? Some kids are massive cunts.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/16 02:09 AM
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That's not what a catch-22 is, OP.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/16 02:51 PM
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It's muay thai. I love grappling, much more than striking, but in a real fight if you want to hurt someone and really scare them your best bet is to be able to smash their faces with all the hardest parts of your body. There are too many variables in the real world when it comes to grappling in my opinion, but both are great anyway. In reality, muay thai is fear-inducing, it's hardcore to the max and it'll make you tougher. If you just do wrestling or BJJ and you get punched in the face you may …
/r/askTRP04/06/16 01:54 PM
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I stopped when it just became too much. She was fucking other dudes raw, and I found out (although I figured anyway) when I found bits of toilet paper stuck to my dick after fucking her. It was so gross. She was this fairly chubby (not obese though) girl with a small ass (although she had a prettyish face I suppose), no more than a 5 but she had the attitude of an 8 or a 9. Kept talking about how tight she was (nope) and how amazing she was at giving head (meh) and eventually got too much to dea…
/r/askTRP04/06/16 01:42 PM
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Yeah count me in for the idiots club too. My last FWB was a renowned cum-dumpster and I still raw dogged it and nutted inside her for a month before wising up. Condoms smell horrendous, look stupid as fuck, feel awful, and completely ruin sex for me. I'd rather drop out of sex than have sex with condoms to be perfectly honest. Can't wait until vasalgel is a thing, but then i'll probably get super aids and die.
/r/askTRP04/06/16 02:30 AM
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Yeah women's lives aren't so shit that they'll turn to severe addictions. That mostly happens when they've been through traumatic experiences. It's not a surprise that more men become heavily addicted to heroin and alcohol, among other drugs, being a man is heavy shit. Women get addicted to light stuff, like a couple of glasses of wine a day or online validation or whatever, they aren't miserable enough to be absolutely desperate for an escape.
/r/TheRedPill04/06/16 01:57 AM
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My last FWB kept tinder on her phone and had 160 notifications on it. Apparently she never actually used it (bullshit) and only kept it for fun. This girl was probably a 5 physically and yet she had 160 dicks dangling in front of her if she so wanted, and she acted like it too. You can't compete. It doesn't matter how attractive you are, she's going to fuck other guys, and no amount of dread is going to work. I'm an attractive guy, I wouldn't have even associated with her if I wasn't looking for…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/16 01:41 AM
2

It's also in our nature to gorge on high calorie foods that are shit for you. If you give rats food that is high fat and high carb they'll eat until they eventually kill themselves. So if that's nature why don't you just follow that and do whatever you feel like whenever you feel like it, because it's 'natural'. Well because you don't really mean natural, you mean instinctual. Me choosing not to have sex with as many women as possible is just as natural as you choosing to do so. Ultimately, I th…
/r/TheRedPill03/06/16 07:01 PM
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We could go full pedant on a single word, but perhaps we need some perspective here. We are animals. We exist simply because previous generations fucked. It is literally the only hard imperative we have as creatures. That's a very mechanistic way of looking at the world. The reason that you and I are here is a lot more complicated than just 'people fucked'. I don't feel guilty about having sex, I feel guilty for acting in a hedonistic way. When you stop feeling guilty about doing naughty things …
/r/TheRedPill02/06/16 11:21 PM
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Maybe you do but a lot of people prefer relationships. Casual sex just makes me feel guilty now, and sometimes it's fun to do, I still do it from time to time, but this idea that secretly I'd rather be fucking loads of different girls instead of being in a good relationship with a great girl is rubbish. Our imperative isn't to stick it into as many holes as possible, that's simply our sexual urge. I have an urge to have sex with lots of women, but it's not my imperative.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/16 09:59 PM
1

Yeah the malefashionadvice sub is pretty good, mostly very simple so you can get the basics down. Don't blow money on being overly ambitious.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/16 09:43 PM
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There are a lot of women who simply want to be abused. It doesn't matter if she's a 4 or a 5 and you're a solid 7 or 8, if she isn't being abused she loses interest.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/16 07:58 PM
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Yeah there's no primitive desire to pass on genes, there's a primitive desire to spooge in girls' vaginas.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/16 09:20 PM
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There are people who know that rape isn't okay and still do it. It doesn't matter how much you teach everyone not to rape, there are always going to be some people who will do it, preventative measures will always be necessary.
/r/MensRights24/04/16 02:17 PM
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