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| -1 | Do women like to be told they are 'well trained' ? ABC, Good Morning America think it's fine to tell that to a man, 4:08, 4:22Nice subtle re-wording there. I said treat them differently in order to treat them fairly, not treat them differently to treat them the same. When the playing field isn't level to start with, treating everyone the same isn't fair. | /r/MensRights | 10/02/11 08:18 PM |
| -1 | Do women like to be told they are 'well trained' ? ABC, Good Morning America think it's fine to tell that to a man, 4:08, 4:22You are not understanding what I'm writing. You need to pull back and read this without getting upset for a little while and see if you can at least understand the point I'm making. I very obviously said that men can be subject to both kinds of sexism I described. My point was that there are some things where you do have to treat people the same, because those things are bad in and of themselves and other things where the same act has very different affects because we don't live if a fucking uto… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/11 07:57 PM |
| 0 | Do women like to be told they are 'well trained' ? ABC, Good Morning America think it's fine to tell that to a man, 4:08, 4:22No, I'm saying that it's not sexism when directed at men. There are basically two categories of sexism (or any discrimination). The first is overt, malicious or bigoted sexism. That's when someone flat out tells you that women have a certain place in society/relationships or won't hire a man to work in a day care because they're concerned about his motivations. This kind of sexism is wrong regardless of context. The second kind of sexism is harder to define. It's the result of an accumulation of… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/11 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Do women like to be told they are 'well trained' ? ABC, Good Morning America think it's fine to tell that to a man, 4:08, 4:22I'm not sure I fully understand your request. Do you not believe that women face discrimination? In any event, my point is that sexism isn't just single incidents. That is, I think, the hardest thing for privileged classes to understand. In the abstract, I think there's clearly nothing wrong with the "well trained" joke. It's a joke. But we don't exist in the abstract. We exist in a world where women and men are treated very differently growing up and as adults. Not always in a bad way, and not … | /r/MensRights | 10/02/11 05:46 AM |
| 1 | Do women like to be told they are 'well trained' ? ABC, Good Morning America think it's fine to tell that to a man, 4:08, 4:22It's not a big deal. It's a bigger deal to women, who are faced with discrimination left and right, and when being a servant of their man was the long-standing norm for a long time and is still common today. Context matters. Sheer volume of discrimination matters. It's not something that you can look at each incident in isolation and get the whole picture. There are places where men face constant discrimination, like teaching (especially teaching young children, but when I taught high school I c… | /r/MensRights | 10/02/11 01:34 AM |
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