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| 8 | Anyone find it hard to relate to regular people? | Unicornrows | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/09/14 11:42 PM |
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| 1 | "MGTOW" What It Would Take For Me To Go BackI edited my post once or twice but you probably didn't see it. I'm not MGTOW or redpill; I just clicked on your comment history from AskMen. I think the reason more women reproduced is because men fought each other. They hunted, too, which is dangerous, but tribal warfare was very common. I think it was mostly intertribal rather than intratribal. I've read that "is there anything good about men?" essay and I think it makes some great points, but I don't think it says that most men are less attra… | /r/MGTOW | 27/01/15 08:06 PM |
| 1 | "MGTOW" What It Would Take For Me To Go BackThe truth is that you are unattractive and will always be unattractive. No woman will ever care for you. If you were meant to be loved you would have found it by now. That's why you're a dork who calls yourself "mgtow" and "redpill". Truth hurts. They're just letting you down easy after using you for whatever they wanted to use you for. Most men aren't meant to reproduce. It isn't your fault, you just weren't ever meant to attract women. Whatever you have to tell yourself. There's a reason more … | /r/MGTOW | 27/01/15 07:28 PM |
| 0 | Killing Your Husband to Save Yourself: "Without proper legal instruments, women with abusive partners are often forced to make a difficult choice: kill or be killed."I'm no expert, but from what I know, there definitely are cases where the abused spouse foolishly stays with the abuser... But there are also cases where they are scared of being murdered if they leave, they can't afford to move out, or they want to try to stay for the children. And we all look past red flags in a relationship, so I understand why someone would not want to leave an otherwise great partner at first. | /r/MensRights | 16/10/14 03:02 PM |
| 2 | What are your views on religion?I think religion is made up, and all prophets are either schizophrenics, con artists, or really liberal in interpreting their internal dialogue as the voice of God. I don't believe in an interventionist God; I believe in science and math. It's possible I'm wrong, but I'd rather bet on logic than miracles. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/10/14 07:41 AM |
| 0 | What do you think about the existence of basic and carnal human nature?I think our unique brains make us more complex and harder to predict than other animals. The way that genes control our behavior is very convoluted when you mix in culture and the modern world for which we didn't evolve. I really wish looking at things from an evo psych standpoint worked better, and it does work decently well, but I think it's not the most--or at least not the only--useful perspective. You could look at a computer from a physics perspective, a chemistry perspective, a programmin… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/10/14 08:18 PM |
| 0 | What issue for your sex/gender would you most like to see resolved? [SERIOUS]I'm trying to remember why I was against abolishing child support, but I can't. It seems like a decent idea. Since people are going to have sex no matter what, abolishing the child support system seems like it would create many children in poverty, who are going to rely on the state, and the state currently prefers to force the father to pay rather than the general taxpayer. Abortion and adoption rates would obviously increase, but abortion has counter-incentives like religious or personal objec… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/14 07:06 PM |
| 1 | What issue for your sex/gender would you most like to see resolved? [SERIOUS]I live in a mutlicultural city but I've never heard of Polish or Italian advocacy groups. I can see how those were useful when those groups were fresh off the boats in large numbers 100 years ago, and maybe they would be useful for 1st-generation immigrants today, but is that what they are for? I'm just asking because I seriously have no idea. Why would those groups exist? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/10/14 06:38 PM |
| 0 | The male slut (Warning: Long read)I understand what it's trying to illustrate, but I think that it's too much of a straw-man. It's just an allegory someone imagined. I think there is at least some truth to the evo-psych theories this story tries to illustrate: Men want sex, women want relationships, etc. However, I think this thought-experiment should not be considered as evidence for the theories, both because it would still be plausible if you swapped the genders, and because it is conjecture rather than science. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/09/14 12:40 AM |
| 6 | The male slut (Warning: Long read)Couldn't you swap the genders and still have the story make sense? (If you remove all the evo-psych interpretations.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/09/14 04:42 PM |
| 3 | Marital rapeWhat's the point of this discussion? How will it help you in your dating life? But to answer the question: I don't think that should be considered rape, because being married to someone implies consenting to sleep with them, although I suppose it depends on whether or not the wife would have consented when sober. Maybe they were in the process of getting divorced and she got drunk in their shared home. I agree laws are overzealous about labeling people as rapists (perhaps with the dubious hope t… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/09/14 07:39 PM |
| 4 | If sexual strategy is amoral, can a woman lie about her partner count?If anything, guys lie about having fucked more girls than they have, to appear preselected. I was just talking to a girl whose boyfriend admitted he had lied about not being a virgin. He was ashamed of his virginity. A common thing... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/09/14 03:27 AM |
| 1 | Women only find 20% of men attractive, meanwhile men only find women attractive from ages 16-25 (less than 20% of all women). Isn't it safe to say both genders are shallow and picky?IMO: Don't read Dataclysm. All its interesting info is already on the blog. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/09/14 03:19 AM |
| 3 | Why so much hate for the so-called "anger phase"?Replace all references to TRP in this post with radical feminism, and you'd have just as valid a point. I think trp goes way overboard with the vitriol. All men are rapists = all women are whores. There are some valid points encased in a toxic vocabulary. Cock carousel and hampstering are as offensive to women as mansplaining or patriarchy are to us guys. The tone is too hostile... that's my biggest problem with it. But I'm not entirely blue either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/09/14 03:34 AM |
| 3 | Thoughts on Paternity Tests?Game, set, and match with no response from OP... | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/09/14 06:55 PM |
| 1 | If you were the opposite gender, what would your strategy be to find happiness in sex/love?If I were a girl, I'm pretty sure I'd be pretty similar to my current self. I'd want someone who is decent looking and fun to be around, who I could watch Netflix with, joke around with, go to parties with, etc. Somebody who has their shit together and is responsible, but whom I find interesting and intelligent. I'm glad you said above average height is attractive because I'm 6'2''. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/09/14 07:52 AM |
| 2 | Why do men give female friendship such low value?One friend usually wants to bang the other one, but if mutual desire was present, it wouldn't be just a friendship. The desirous person will be frustrated by the lack of reciprocation. That person will also probably repeatedly attempt to advance the relationship to a sexual one, since sexual partners are generally scarcer and more valued than friends (acquaintances, anyway.) This makes it difficult for the desired partner to keep the relationship on a friendly but nonsexual level. | /r/TheRedPill | 18/09/14 04:03 AM |
| 6 | Yes, men do leave the marketWell, c'mon... Guys do the same thing. I turn girls down fairly often (usually because they are too fat, are weird, smoke, etc...) | /r/TheRedPill | 18/09/14 03:52 AM |
| 2 | What would you actually like women to do with their lives?I don't know if guys realize how many girls we passively reject. He is talking about the girls who reject him, but ignoring all the girls he was never interested in to begin with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/09/14 05:09 AM |
| 1 | Anyone find it hard to relate to regular people?Finally got a long reply out of you :) It sounds like you are more long-term-minded than I am; I'm more interested in casual relationships at this point of my life, even if that means "serial monogamy". I will probably travel extensively for work over the next decade. I'm not looking for a mother of my children or for a lifelong partner, although if I really hit it off with someone, I might be open to that. So yes, abs don't last forever, but neither does anything else. There's a girl whom I've … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/14 10:09 PM |
| 1 | Anyone find it hard to relate to regular people?Thank you. I like the reality tunnel idea... I was watching some of this guy's other videos, and he actually endorses the same things I was saying, right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csrRB_agsJk&t=27m0s That said, it is true that people often choose being right over being happy. People get stuck in a view of reality which may not be productive for them. And maybe the evo psych stuff I was writing about in this post has crossed the line to being an unproductive model of reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/09/14 09:11 PM |
| 1 | Anyone find it hard to relate to regular people?Who says to lower your standards? You don't have good standards right now by any means because you are judging value by outward appearance. Everyone has some minimum visual standards; you're just saying mine are too high. Although I agree the phrase "lower your standards" sounds more insulting than something like "reexamine your values". You don't want someone to judge you for your looks, why should you be doing that? I know I'm always being judged for my looks to some degree... It's inescapable… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/14 09:57 PM |
| 1 | Anyone find it hard to relate to regular people?Or even girls I was dating, but... yeah. It sounds like you're saying to lower my standards, or to give more people a chance; I guess I could do that. But I don't want to lead some girl on and hurt her feelings if I'm not too attracted to her to start with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/14 09:00 PM |
| 2 | Anyone find it hard to relate to regular people?If you're talking about me, I do experience love and feelings, as far as I know. One of the reasons I am interested in this topic is because I really enjoy the company of attractive women. I know that's nothing unusual, but it really bugged me that there were girls who had seemingly great personalities who I just didn't feel the same way about. I felt shallow for it. And I think I actually used to give good-looking people more credit for their personalities. "That girl is so amazing and everythi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/14 08:36 PM |
| 1 | Anyone find it hard to relate to regular people?If she was missing a leg, infertile, or had an "invisible" genetic disease like the early stages of Huntington's, I think she could still have the biological markers of attractiveness (a sexy-looking body), and a healthy brain, so I think I could still feel love. Of course, if she had Down's syndrome, I wouldn't be attracted, even though that's completely outside her control. And that is just about starting a relationship. If my spouse developed cancer or something, I would probably stay with he… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/14 08:19 PM |
| 2 | Anyone find it hard to relate to regular people?Yeah, I agree humans are complex and can't be completely predicted, especially as individuals rather than groups. Regarding having kids: I think we evolved to want sex, which led to kids (before birth control, which is too recent for evolution to have accounted for.) And I may change my mind about kids in the future. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/14 02:33 PM |
| 1 | Anyone find it hard to relate to regular people?but how does love for friends play into this? In your initial post, you question whether people love their friends I just meant that when people say they love their sexual/romantic partner, it's at least partly because of biology, rather than because of their partner's personality. If we were purely attracted to personalities we would probably date our platonic friends, but we don't, because they don't have the right kinds of bodies. The word "love" is way too vague, anyway. I love my grandma, b… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/14 01:16 PM |
| 1 | Anyone find it hard to relate to regular people?I'd love an answer to "what is the point", but my overall question is more about whether love and sex are all about reproduction. Gay people are a good counterpoint to that theory, although there are theories about why gay people are evolutionarily beneficial, such as the theory that they benefit the tribe by hunting and helping but not competing for female mates. Or the theory that they can reproduce by getting along with women better than straight guys can. So I'd like to know exactly how to a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/14 04:47 AM |
| 1 | Anyone find it hard to relate to regular people?I think I've been in love. I had a dream last night about being with a certain girl I've dated in the past. I woke up feeling great. But if I look at that relationship through the lens of evo-psych, it makes sense that I would feel love for her, because she was a good potential mother of my children, and she seemed to feel that I would have been a good father to her kids. If there is a love beyond that, I would like to find it, but I think there's a reason I felt "love" for a girl who was a heal… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/14 04:34 AM |
| 2 | Anyone find it hard to relate to regular people?I'm a 27-year-old single man, although I've been with many girls in the past (which I feel says something about me.) I agree with what you posted and am interested in your elaboration. I do feel that people love their friends and families, but I think it can be explained by evo-psych; I don't say that to diminish its relevance or impact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/09/14 04:28 AM |
| 21 | When women complain that "there are no good men left" or ask "where have all the good men gone," what exactly do they mean by "good men?"They probably mean "good" the same way someone says "that was a good movie" or "good beer" or whatever... Nothing to do with morality; it just means they like & enjoy it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/08/14 12:06 AM |
| 3 | If sexual strategy is amoral, why should any woman disclose having had many partners? Shouldn't both sides be equally amoral?I think rape is a sexual strategy, obviously immoral, but also not the best strategy for most people, even without considering its morality. It carries high risk for the perpetrator. In many societies, where it was safer (raping slaves, for example), it was a more solid strategy, although just as immoral. I remember reading that around 1/3 men will rape in a war zone, which is a relatively consequence-free environment, so I imagine their morals were the deciding factor. Although maybe being mora… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/14 02:20 AM |
| 2 | If sexual strategy is amoral, why should any woman disclose having had many partners? Shouldn't both sides be equally amoral?I'm not a redpiller. I think it's interesting that we can never know for sure whether we're being lied to. This applies to any relationship, not just dating. We might be cheated on and never know. But we do know ourselves. A cheater or liar has to live with the knowledge that they are hiding something. I suppose they have to think of a cover story or a plan, or simply hope it never comes up. This probably makes them wary of making big decisions like buying a house with their partner, since if th… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/14 02:09 AM |
| 1 | Revisiting financial abortion -- Survey finds 24% of women would have a baby without their partner's consentI presume the BBC website is reputable, but this article is from 2001 and cites a survey from a magazine called That's Life!. Anyone have the source, or the full survey results? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/14 10:33 PM |
| 1 | The "disposability" of menA lot of this thread seems to be straw-man arguments against feminism, but when I saw your OP, I immediately thought of this essay: http://denisdutton.com/baumeister.htm | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/14 08:20 AM |
| 8 | The Influence of ArousalNice distinction. An ex-girlfriend of mine once said that she purposely avoided situations where she would be tempted to cheat. I know that I'm personally quite susceptible to making risky decisions when horny, like not wearing a condom, and from statistics I've read, I'm not unusual in that regard (and it takes 2 to have condomless sex; girls often don't care either.) It's kinda scary how much our conscious minds are influenced by subconscious thoughts, priming, hormones, biology, etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/08/14 07:56 PM |
| 7 | I believe that theredpill ideology is based on extreme fundamental attribution error and possibly solipsism, CMV.You sound really hurt by this, but calling 51% of humanity insane and saying they have warped minds is the sort of thing that makes people call TRP misogynistic. To me, it makes you sound like the one who's insane with a warped mind. (Strong words; I don't actually think you're crazy, I just think you have been reading too much TRP stuff) People like who they like. Do you get mad at gay people for being attracted to their own gender? Do you get mad at straight men for being attracted to hot wome… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/14 08:04 PM |
| 1 | If what women say should be ignored, and we should only pay attention to what they do, does the same go for men?I agree with your hypothesis. I think men and women are both generally attracted to cool, fun, funny, good looking, healthy people with their shit together, who are well liked by others, who we can connect with over shared interests but who are still cooler than us... etc. As a guy I would agree I like girls who are nice, responsive, etc. but that's not the most important factor. If "playing hard to get" or playing games works on me, I don't see it. But I agree that being hard to get is a side e… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/14 07:33 PM |
| 1 | CMV: I think being a genuinely nice guy will get you more action than being a TRP style alpha.The whole nice guy thing misses the mark, imo. Whether a girl likes a guy is often about him being considerate and respectful, true, but it's also looks, outgoingness, sense of humor, assertiveness, location, lifestyle, desperation or lack of, etc., all compared to her. Not just whether he's kind. It's rare that he just wasn't nice enough, and to focus on that can make a guy feel like an asshole when he isnt. I'm a guy, but that's my opinion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/14 11:45 PM |
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