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I fear it doesn’t make sense to you my friend
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:53 PM
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Oh for sure, they would have broken up sooner if they didn’t have kids too. I’m neutral but engaged so 🤷‍♀️ marriage has never been important but helpful for immigration. True, similar to me in the UK. I lived in the US for a couple of years and it was a shock to see the importance and money spent on weddings and marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 04:16 PM
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Not sure if it’s “against” as opposed to “not relevant to them” but maybe some people are just inconsistent in giving advice. I’m sure that annoyance is tough for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:57 PM
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The situations are different. I assume the women offering advice aren’t lonely or looking to meet new people. If they were, they would follow that advice. Sure, it’s hard but not impossible. People meet people through work, hobbies etc all the time. I mean, if you think the advice is useless, don’t take it.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:40 PM
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Is it? Sounds like the guys should go hang out with people who want to hang out with them. Easy.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:26 PM
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I swear the people that post things like this will then complain about how redditors judge age gap relationships unfairly.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 02:23 PM
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The decision to have kids can also influence people’s choice to marry, for sure. I get the logic behind why some women think like that, I don’t personally agree because of my own personal experiences but marriage is personal to everyone and every marriage is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:41 PM
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As much as I appreciate the condescending tone, we are not misunderstanding each other, I just disagree with your opinion. Sounds like Brad needs to figure his shit out tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:29 PM
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I’ve known of people who got married after 20+ years together and then got divorced within the year. It just doesn’t work for some people. Fair enough, funnily it’s the opposite from my experience. Me and my friends/family don’t really care about marriage but it’s our male partners who want it. Marriage was and still is not super important to me but also isn’t a dealbreaker either way. It definitely depends on culture and where you grow up too.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:27 PM
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I feel like I am repeating myself here but off we go. Marriage does not mean stable relationship. I’m sure some women do want marriage if it’s important to them but I wouldn’t say all. Men also want marriage for whatever reasons they have. It’s simple, if you do not want marriage, don’t get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:17 PM
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Again marriage does not equal stable relationship. You can have a stable relationship without marriage.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 01:07 PM
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A marriage doesn’t instantly mean a stable relationship. Also if the main driver for marriage is “regular sex” then that marriage is doomed.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:58 PM
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Why is an alternative required? There is already an option for people who don’t believe/want marriage and that is to not get married.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/26 12:34 PM
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A friend who is a woman?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/07/26 03:13 PM
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He is :)
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 02:14 PM
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Men going about their day does not make me wet.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/26 09:14 AM
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I’m pretty happy, thanks :)
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:51 PM
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Hardly but whatever makes you happy
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 05:47 PM
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If my current partner cared that I gave more blowjobs to my ex than him, he can go ask my ex to suck him off to make it up to him. I find playing the comparing game is pointless and will only end in heartache.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/07/26 04:51 PM
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I didn’t say all dogs had it, just it was a helpful trait. My dog would sell me in an instant for a piece of cheese so maybe it’s a cross-species issue. Although if my partner said this to me, I’d fuck his dad and mum and then break up with him so.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:32 PM
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Obedience is also a very helpful trait in dogs too.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/07/26 05:19 PM
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Ohhhh. Yeh I meant "cuck" to mean "husband," which is how the other commenter defined it.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:08 AM
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Why would I need to get it from outside?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:05 AM
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He does just fine thanks tho :)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 11:01 AM
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Haha thank you; he is a keeper.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:51 AM
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Haha I am. By "cuck" I mean "husband." I don't walk him around on a lead or anything (I'm saving that for the honeymoon).
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:49 AM
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I think you could sneak another adjective in there if you wanted.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:45 AM
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and a big dick.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:43 AM
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My fiancé is looking forward to being a cuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/07/26 10:42 AM
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When me and my fiancé went on our first date, we took turns buying drinks at the pub and then I asked him if he wanted to kiss me before or after I eat my kebab and he said both. I then got Covid so had to cancel our next date so he offered we do a virtual one and he dropped off snacks and cocktail cans to my door so we could FaceTime and he could show me his favourite show. I got more attracted because he was genuine and wasn’t scared or playing games with me. He liked me and treated me as such…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/07/26 06:23 PM
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I agree, I don’t think they would listen.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:25 PM
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I think when you enter a relationship, you have to accept you might get hurt cos people aren’t perfect and will fuck up. Cheating isn’t a given but obviously can happen and it sucks. Not sure what micro cheating is but sounds vague af.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:17 PM
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Yeh, it’s a self fulfilling prophecy because everything becomes a form of rejection eventually. Tbh I think it’s up to the individual to be open to reworking their toxic thinking. You can lead a horse to water but you can’t make them drink.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 05:11 PM
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Whatever you say
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:59 PM
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Agree to disagree on that. I don’t think most women do this, just the shitty ones.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:16 PM
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I couldn’t imagine not opening up to my partner about stuff or him not talking to me but I would also never use his insecurities against him. I know some people do and it is a shitty thing to do.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/26 12:11 PM
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Neither
/r/PurplePillDebate01/07/26 10:27 AM
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Well by those metrics, unfortunately he doesn’t meet the standards for the top 1% of men. Technically I’m closer to the top 1% of men than he is if we used those markers.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 06:04 PM
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My fiancé is gonna be stoked to find out he is in the top 5% of all men everywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:31 PM
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Where else am I supposed to argue with people online during my luteal phase?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/26 04:02 PM
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So many weird claims in the post to just advocate for a “violent revolution” on women because they won’t suck some men’s dicks. I’m sure the men/boys you interact with may feel this way, but I doubt the majority required to pull this eventual revolution would support this. Also, you act as if there would be no pushback to this in society. There would be.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:57 AM
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This is pure magic ✨ thank you
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:52 AM
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I’m pretty sure I could take OP in this eventually sad male uprising so I think we are good folks.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/06/26 08:50 AM
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Gosh “Women” doing a lot of the heavy lifting there when I assume you are referring to women on Reddit? Unless you truly mean all women which is a bold claim. I am not asking why men aren’t approaching because I truly don’t care. You act as if women don’t equally experience bad things in these situations. I can acknowledge that some men are shitted on these interactions and that fucking sucks. You take gambles in most social interactions and sometimes it doesn’t work or it comes across wrong. Or…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 07:00 PM
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It’s appropriate in social settings like bars, nightclubs, cafes etc. The gym is a grey area for me because I would have that personally. It’s only appropriate if no is accepted the first time it is offered. I’m sorry but if you think the worst case scenario of being approached in public is that an unattractive man while approach a woman when she isn’t in the mood, I’m perplexed. I was about to match your patronising tone but thought why bother. I know women who have been followed, harassed and …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 06:51 PM
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Most women on this subreddit aren’t equatable to most women. I know, we’ve interacted at least 3 times and you’ve said the same thing and I (and others) have shown empathy and then you say how rare it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:58 PM
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We would have to ask most women to confirm that I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:41 PM
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Yeh, that is a shitty situation if that was the full exchange. That sucks and I hope you found a better bar.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 05:22 PM
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How did you approach and how did you get a lifetime ban?
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 04:59 PM
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I don’t think the issue is cold approaching but knowing when your cold approach is not being reciprocated and when it is appropriate. The biggest issue for women is that more often than not, we are approached randomly and when/if we say no, it can escalate. I have had men approach me at the grocery stores, gas stations, the street, parks etc and usually it’s been a 50/50 of them either saying respectively “okay, no worries” or “why not, you got a boyfriend, I’m better etc.” TBH the potential dan…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/26 03:46 PM
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Women worked before WW2, even before WW1 if you can believe it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/26 12:18 PM
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I can live with that shame.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 08:37 PM
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Can I just be alone in the woods?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:46 PM
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You should work on your core, helps with balance
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 07:40 PM
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Pretty funny tbh. I would ask what the next bet is.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 06:05 PM
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So now it’s 5%? Wasn’t it 20% the other day? I’m losing track of which percentage of men I should be interested in. We need a newsletter!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/06/26 02:11 PM
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Oh I recognise the guy, I’m pretty sure I said sorry when he said he was assaulted by women and got the same spiel. Either way, clearly he wants empathy for it and I’ll give it, but I’ll still argue with him on his other opinions.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:53 PM
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The sub seems to regurgitate alpha male red pill language so I guess they are just replicating that for themselves. It’s fucking weird but I haven’t seen that sub before so not sure really. People are weird and gross on the internet. I saw those threads and saw a mixed range of responses. I’m not sure what the obsession with paying or not paying on a date is about because I usually go half or alternate so. 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 05:08 PM
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Well, we are already telling girls “how to not get spiked” and that isn’t working so clearly more needs to be done. The clubs need to be monitoring better and people need to call it out when they see it and call the police. Women are taught on what to look out for but are men? That club had a bad reputation for spiking before that incident and is now closed permanently so there’s that I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:57 PM
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Yeh, this gives a “if we can’t beat them, join them” to the extreme. It’s giving “how to be an alpha” for women which is icky tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:53 PM
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Im sorry to hear that. I think most things could be solved with empathy tbh. I think it’s up to everyone to be diligent and call it out when they see it and call the police. Also nightclubs need to be better at monitoring this. The nightclub where that girl got spiked was well known to have a problem with it.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:46 PM
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I’m sorry that happened to you. Of course everyone should be taught not to spike. ATM I’m not sure anyone is being proactive in that and more victim shaming with “how to avoid getting spiked.”
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:37 PM
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Wait, I can’t tell which part you are critiquing?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 04:35 PM
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Super vague, nice.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:50 PM
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I do agree that it takes a village to raise a kid. I am not sure why you need "stark gender differences" to do it properly, though. Why should they?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:42 PM
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True, I used to think I would have kids because "that's what you do," but I gladly realized it is not a requirement as I have gotten older. I have a great-aunt who never had kids, and I just always assumed it was because she couldn't, etc. I asked my Nan about it once I was older and found out she just never wanted them, so she didn't. I literally felt like such an idiot for making all these assumptions when she is just happy with her husband and pet parrots, just vibing.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:34 PM
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Oooof, that sounds awful! I'd much prefer to regret not having kids than to regret having them.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:12 PM
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I don't think everyone should be parents or pushed towards that role if they don't want it. I find it strange that people want to push back on a child-free life as if it impacts them personally. >there are stark gender differences worth adhering to for proper development Who says they are worth it? Clearly, they are not, as people are rejecting this by being child-free or choosing not to date.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 03:11 PM
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How does one “bring women back to reality” and how does “kids and a family” help that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:38 PM
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I don't think there is a blanket measure for this, since everyone is different. Some people like enthusiasm while others don't. People change in their preferences when they get older as well, so what I would have found as eagerness 5 years ago isn't the same now. >What is it about a man being very eager for love or companionship that can come across as unattractive, while other men with far more serious flaws are still able to attract partners? To answer this, I assume we are talking about the d…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 02:14 PM
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You are making some huge generalisations there.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:44 PM
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Looks like no one is getting laid then. Spread the news.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 12:16 PM
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Hmm interesting. So you do think they have a libido, but it's less than men's usually?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 11:44 AM
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You think women as a whole have no libido?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/06/26 10:09 AM
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Yes….
/r/MensRights20/06/26 12:24 PM
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Well. I’m a woman so *he would be entitled to my assets. Also this law hasn’t been passed yet so I assume it isn’t in effect yet.
/r/MensRights20/06/26 07:47 AM
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I'd be interested in seeing how they outline the ways to opt out of this for couples.
/r/MensRights19/06/26 02:40 PM
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Is it a common argument from feminists that "any amount of alcohol" negates consent? First time I am hearing this.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/06/26 01:00 PM
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You need experience and wealth to chill on the sofa and play video games together?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:34 PM
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People who share hobbies?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:32 PM
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Nah, I think they look cute 💚
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 10:42 PM
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I can’t speak for most women but I certainly wouldn’t and haven’t lol. Neither has any of my friends or relatives.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:38 PM
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> My ideal relationship is one where me and my gf can just cuddle and play a video game together - and she will be happy doing this This describes an average experience for all the couples I know. I truly don’t know anyone getting or offering either options you outlined.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:27 PM
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Same, people should use whatever bathroom is available to them. Just don't be weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 03:05 PM
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I have lived with my partner in the UK for over three years now, and I'm not sure this will impact us that much. I didn't even know this was a new law being introduced, so thanks for the heads up!
/r/MensRights18/06/26 02:40 PM
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Wtf is shit testing?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:46 PM
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Hahah, it's an amazing place! My fiancé took me there for a sausage sizzle when we visited Aus.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 12:46 PM
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Fair enough. That sounds like a very stressful situation for both of you to be in. I’m sorry to hear you believe your wife to have settled for you, that’s a shitty situation to sit with. I only asked as I was curious because I have the opposite reaction when my partner is proactive in cleaning etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:57 AM
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Who the hell doesn't like Bunnings!
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:46 AM
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Has your wife said why she sleeps with you less when you do most of the chores?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 11:28 AM
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Also I’ve never heard of a guy standing in front of a girl at the elevator. Not even sure what that achieves in terms of safety.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:06 AM
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Tbh I think it’s ideal if I make the same as my partner and we share everything equally. I currently make more than my fiancé and it’s chill. I don’t really need the public protection described nor experienced it before from other partners so don’t expect it now.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/26 06:02 AM
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Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:34 PM
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Isn't fairness subjective, so hardly consistent?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:33 PM
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Sure, you can use it, but it may not be effective or convincing.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:21 PM
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Yes, "life is unfair" isn't a good argument to defend those inequalities. "Life isn't fair" can apply to people complaining about women dating trash men, though.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:14 PM
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I don't think that happens with every case of domestic violence. Also not reflective of ordinary people who aren't committing crimes. Maybe go talk to some of them.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:08 PM
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Bold move to equate women dating "trash men" to economic and racial inequality. You are right, you could apply "life isn't fair" to these, but you would be a trash man.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 02:00 PM
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Huh? How do crime states show that the men abusing their partners are "either the best men on earth or the worst men on earth"? How is that even measured? Also, most women are average and date average men.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/06/26 01:55 PM
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Major plus. I love my autistic nerdy fiancé. I’m also nerdy so that helps.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/06/26 07:23 PM
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Of course, women value time, effort, shared experiences etc. Everyone is different and people value different things when it comes to relationships, but I know many women (myself included) who love simple, thoughtful gestures and dates. My fiancé and I used to go on dates in his car, park up in a nice spot and watch Netflix on a phone while eating takeout. We also went for walks or simple dates and still do them now. Analogy is wrong because women are not a monolith. Not all women want "riches a…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:43 PM
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Oh 100%. Wade is not very perceptive or smart. Clearly, he was just going along with things because she is pretty and good at manipulating. TBH, I think that's why she went for him because he is gullible.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 02:29 PM
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Yeh, that's wild. My mum stopped cooking for me when I was like 14 because we all just took turns cooking at that point.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:39 PM
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Well sounds like you are better prepared than some people I know. At this point, if you are an adult and want to learn more about cooking, you can.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:37 PM
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This is a wild take to have from that doc.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:27 PM
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I agree, more educational resources should be available to new parents, especially if they come from unstable or complicated backgrounds to learn how to cook and provide healthy food for their children. Not sure what this has to do with you not having fuel tho? I assume your mum didn’t teach you to cook?
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/26 01:24 PM
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Thank you 💚 I won’t!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:28 AM
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Stay together because I’d be one step closer to pegging a men, one of my life goals ✨
/r/PurplePillDebate11/06/26 06:25 AM
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Did it though? Did it confirm any of that in the OP or are these conditions added on as the comments come in? It says it’s the root cause but doesn’t say sex is the only solution. It sure is the easiest option for men because they get pity sex as therapy and they don’t need to address anything. No more research into why sexlessness is so deadly to men’s mental health, how can that codependency be addressed on a deeper level? Clearly the point of the OP and your comments are to shame women while …
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 09:29 PM
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If the root cause of female suicide was proven without a doubt to be caused solely by the inability to peg men, would you give them the basic level of care and act?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:51 PM
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Who said the only option was to fuck them? Why would that scenario instantly mean that the only option is for women to pity fuck sad men? Why not invest research and support for men who are so codependent on sex, they will kill themselves without it. How is that not seen as a bigger systemic issue for men? If the purpose of OPs question was to try to shame women, I’m not sure it’s working.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:47 PM
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I do find men’s mental health a serious issue. This wouldn’t make me change my attitude towards it. ew no, why. nope nope (Edit: cos I’m high and typing is hard)
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 08:10 PM
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How do they act out in resentment? Does acting out in resentment mean having super high standards now or just being a dick or all of the above?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 03:39 PM
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Well then, good thing they aren't attracted to you either, so it seems like a win/win.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:48 PM
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TBH I would say I can identify with sapiosexual because intelligence is hot to me. The more intelligent someone is, the more attractive I find them.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 02:32 PM
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Again, do you? Which study are you referencing? Studies are limited but can give some insight, but the authors tend to refrain from making sweeping arguments like “women prefer to date taller men on average in the West; therefore, all women hate short men.” >are u going to say that people don't like drinking water cause one or two human have an allergy to it? I mean, there are more people with water allergies than that and many who don’t like drinking water despite not being allergic. I’d also n…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 01:08 PM
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Again, generalising as this isn't reflective of all women everywhere. Women can "want" that, but the reality is the average height difference in hetero couples is like 5 inches, so clearly it isn't a requirement for most. Also, not sure equating women not having sex with you to hatred is a winning argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:55 PM
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Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:44 PM
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But then they aren't good people if they discriminate against others.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:44 PM
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Well, they can hardly be "good women" if you are saying they hate all short men because they are short.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:39 PM
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Have you asked every 5ft 2 woman that question? Or did you skip all the work and go straight to generalising?
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:38 PM
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Nah, women know that some men turn to the far right because they are mad they aren't getting laid by the women they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/06/26 12:32 PM
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Yes, I am aware?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/06/26 07:24 AM
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Nah I don’t think it is. Mainly about talking about STEM
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 08:10 PM
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When I say that women should enter more male-dominated fields, this isn’t what I’m talking about.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/06/26 05:55 PM
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I mean OP literally did but go off.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/06/26 01:46 PM
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Ahhh thought so. I think I’ve commented back and forth with him before; I fear he is a one trick pony and very passionate about proving how elusive the heterosexual woman is.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:57 PM
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Isn’t this the same person who posts about there being no straight women anymore?
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 01:49 PM
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I know you think that 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate05/06/26 05:46 AM
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I’m not missing it, I’m directly disagreeing with you. I agree men should be encouraged to hear and support each other. I also believe we should show empathy and kindness where possible in everyday life, however we can.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 07:03 PM
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How OP saw himself during the lecture:
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:56 PM
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I agree that men should be encouraged to be emotionally open and support each other. The other stuff is trash.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:53 PM
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Hey, I’m all for men cuddling and holding each other.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:41 PM
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Being with a woman should be frowned upon if not hated. So all men should be gay? Jesus christ was a celibate but every being on earth takes his name. I fear your argument has taken an unexpected but fascinating turn.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:34 PM
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Definitely feels like that sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:30 PM
6

Honestly, I would have loved to witness this interaction as it sounds very entertaining. Usually, I just giggle at the unsolicited advice I receive from older men on the train.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:29 PM
5

I don’t think he really cares about your pity tbh. Similarly to the interaction you outlined in your OP, I fear you are overestimating your influence on others.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:14 PM
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Sometimes I read these posts and I am so happy to be marrying my lovely “simp” fiancé. If you want to be an arsehole in your daily life, just be an arsehole. There is no need to seek validation by declaring you are fighting against the massive injustice of some men giving up their seat on public transport.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 06:03 PM
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Yep, that is the standard experience from all the women I know and my own experience. In the last month, my friend’s daughter had to complain about an invited visitor to their school who was being inappropriate. She is 10 and it’s now a police investigation.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:43 PM
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I feel like negging is an extension of the playground mentality of “oh that boy was mean to you, it’s because he likes you.” It feels like it’s reliant on low self esteem and need for validation in both parties to get the best results. Honestly, whenever someone has tried to neg me in recent years, it’s given me the ick.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 05:17 PM
3

Oh, so it's a general rule that women date tall men for their ability to physically protect them and lanky sperm? First time I'm hearing about this.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 04:11 PM
5

Yeah, it's weird to make your nationality the main pro to dating you. Do they not have anything else to offer a partner other than access to citizenship?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:47 PM
2

Height doesn't immediately mean men are MMA fighters, nor does it guarantee "good" sperm.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 03:42 PM
2

Have you asked women this and gotten that response? How many said that? Did you ask online or in person? I'm concerned you are referencing a viral song that isn't really an accurate representation of all women's attitudes toward dating. I know many women (myself included) who don't require either of those in our partners. I am not arguing that women don't have high standards; I just don't agree that ALL/MAJORITY of women have unrealistic standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:15 PM
1

Because motherhood is hard and less forced on women as a requirement compared to 20 years ago. Also, kids are expensive as hell. Single because they can be probably.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:12 PM
1

Same, I love a cheeky hate read. I swear I see these books more in charity shops than anywhere else.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 02:08 PM
3

Aren’t these dating books over a decade old? They were around before I was dating and don’t know anyone who has read those books for tips, let alone have a book club for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/06/26 01:39 PM
3

Which women are doing this? I don’t know any women even remotely similar to how you describe so maybe it is a choice thing and you are surrounding yourself with shitty women.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 09:06 PM
8

Very true. I think the loser guys should just keep it to themselves tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:17 PM
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I hate to break it to you but some western women’s attitudes aren’t from words or what their parents have told them. Usually comes from direct bad experiences with the shitty men from an early age.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 05:07 PM
9

In this economy? Yep, pretty much.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 02:35 PM
3

Honestly the kind of rom-com ending girls dream about 💜
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 12:00 PM
9

I’m only with my fiancé so I can steal his Pokémon collection in the eventual divorce. I will collect them all!
/r/PurplePillDebate03/06/26 11:29 AM
30

Emotional responses in the workplace are interesting because my workplace is predominately women and true, we have had crying in the office. We joke that we have all had a cry in the office toilets, usually due to a mix of external non-work stressors and work interactions that just fucking piss you off. My fiancé works in an all men environment and the interactions he describes include shouting matches, punching walls, punching lockers, walk outs, crying, quitting on the spot, passive aggressive…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 10:38 PM
3

Well I can only speak to my own experiences so sure. Hence why I asked if anyone had experience what OP had outlined.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 09:52 AM
7

I mean, whatever floats your boat but that sounds exhausting and would get old soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:47 AM
8

Sure, but I’d much rather deal with my own drama than an old ass man’s. Not sure what drama is required for great sex, usually most people can manage without it. I certainly have.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:40 AM
9

Gosh, I am so glad I learned how to spot guys like you early on in my dating experience. Helped me avoid a lot of drama 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:35 AM
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I’m confused by the question because this makes it seem like men on average are just waiting at the sidelines until they are picked. Is this anyone’s experience? Unless my dating experience is unique, the men I have dated had just as much agency in who they dated and if/when they ended relationships. I find this mindset strange because you are too busy thinking about everyone else rather than your partner and your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/05/26 04:27 AM
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This post feels like the unintended butterfly effect of women telling men they are gay so they leave them alone. Ironically, telling men you are gay doesn’t deter them so maybe we need to up our game. I might try “sorry, I’m a furry” next.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/26 05:08 AM
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I’m here for a good time, not a long time.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:49 AM
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It’s controlling if you use it as a method to get your way. If your partner is overstepping a boundary you have set, then leave. But to threaten to leave without the intention to actually leave, that is manipulation, especially if you know they will concede to placate you. TBH if your partner threatens to leave if you get a tattoo (which I have experienced personally) or because they are not getting anal sex, then the trash is taking itself out in my opinion 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 05:39 AM
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I would love to hear some examples of these tests that women have used or men have experienced in dating. I don’t think I’ve ever tested anyone like this or heard from my partner or man mates about tests so I am curious.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/05/26 01:27 AM
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I love that OP’s now deleted comment to me was to say that I should just accept I’m not “wifely” material with a cheeky “sweetheart” on the end as if it is an insult. It really isn’t but I understand that debating can be hard sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 11:24 PM
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You should share this epiphany on the first date. I think it’s really important you share this view with potential partners as soon as possible. The idea that women must/want to submit to a man is so strange. Also this feels like a very long winded way to say you don’t want to help clean your own space. Just because a man doesn’t think he needs to clean right now or “isn’t gung-ho” that doesn’t mean that cleaning doesn’t need to be done. Maybe you need to spend less time developing these epiphan…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/26 09:42 PM
5

I assume that’s where the best DIY and plumbing tips can be found.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/26 02:55 AM
10

I thought men watched porn for the gripping and immersive plot lines?
/r/PurplePillDebate21/05/26 10:31 PM
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I’m engaged and I’m not sure what is considered special treatment. We haven’t done anything I haven’t done before and he doesn’t complain so 🤷‍♀️. The longer we are together, I’m sure we will try new things. Honestly, I had never heard of this being a common fear from men until I found this subreddit. I asked my fiancé whether this was ever a fear for him and he said he’d never worried about this and found it odd too.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/05/26 02:03 AM
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This guy really needs to pick a different struggle because it’s weird how much he focuses on this very niche and very irrelevant issue.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 03:20 PM
4

Oh I see. I guess being a woman who dated men makes me invalid to comment on women dating men. Good to know 👍 Have you dated many women?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:57 PM
2

Do you?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:50 PM
2

I guess you can’t detect sarcasm either…weird. No, not 1. Maybe 3? As I said, I’m sure there are some women like this; toxic people will always be toxic. Claiming many women do/think like this? Very unlikely.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:45 PM
2

So you posted not knowing any existed? Weird.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:32 PM
3

Many women? How many is many? I maybe know 1 woman personally who expects a man to provide financially. Most of the women I know do not function this way.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 01:03 PM
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Cringe
/r/PurplePillDebate14/05/26 09:10 AM
5

You are an uber woman. On the heterosexual hierarchy, you are ahead of straight men watching straight couple porn.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 04:52 PM
7

So uber straight then, got it.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:57 PM
6

So not gay? Or like 15% gay?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 01:51 PM
7

I’m wondering if we will ever know :(
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:45 PM
20

What if a woman masturbates to gay male porn? Is that still gay or actually uber straight?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/26 12:10 PM
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Not sure you know what the patriarchy is.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:28 PM
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Sorry I find self awareness attractive. Hey, it’s not the blue haired feminists fault that flying cars and holograms don’t exist, tell the tech daddies of the world to work on it for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 10:06 PM
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Nah, I think it’s pretty hot actually.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:59 PM
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They truly think they are playing 4D chess with the manipulation attempt of “haha you’re fat.” Like who do you think you are, my mum?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:55 PM
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Very true. I wonder if it’s conscious or subconscious as this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:50 PM
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There is overlap, sure. But not objective traits that all women find equally attractive. Women want different things and value different things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:48 PM
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He isn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:44 PM
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Would it be? If a woman posted this, I would assume men in the comment section would blame her personality etc while also calling her ugly?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:38 PM
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Does this guy have a shame kink or something? Why is he dying for women to just tell him he is ugly rather than him having a shit personality. Not sure he realises they aren’t mutually exclusive, both can be true.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 09:33 PM
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Because why be needlessly mean? Also attractiveness is subjective. Just because I don’t find a guy attractive, doesn’t mean that no one will.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:40 PM
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If that’s what you are looking for, go chat to the AI bots in your Tinder messages.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 08:35 PM
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Yeh, why not. It would be a refreshing experience. I would also want to see if my views on dating would stay the same after experiencing a different dynamic.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 07:27 PM
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I would never cheat. I know people who have cheated (both my parents included) and it doesn’t seem particularly gendered in who is most likely too. None of my friends have cheated but a few have been cheated on.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/26 05:12 PM
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Well, the reason behind casual sex isn’t always instant attraction. There can be a multitude of reasons behind the decision, some that don’t even involve the other person. It just feels like a very superficial way to value yourself. Also it relies on other people to validate your worth which is very damaging way to view yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:42 PM
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Ahh, yeh I wouldn’t equate my desirability to access to casual sex. I think that’s a formula set up to hurt.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:28 PM
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Some were good, some weren’t. TBH I have such an awful memory that unless it was fantastic or awful, I can’t recall it.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:21 PM
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Some. I’d say 50% of my sexual partners were casual.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:19 PM
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This dynamic can work in some marriages but not all. I know many marriages with a traditional setup that ended in divorce. Also isn’t that what men want? To eat and not die if you boil it down to such basic needs. All men don’t want the same thing and vice versa.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 06:16 PM
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Truly. Don’t threaten me with a good time.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:46 PM
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Haha yeh I’m good. I’m sure some women feel like that but it definitely isn’t the majority.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:46 PM
10

Gen Z women have to accept their childless lives. Huh? What do you mean?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 05:26 PM
5

Women or men?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/26 04:51 PM
1

Nope. Never.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 06:08 PM
3

Nope. Just an above average height woman unintentionally emasculating the average height men around me.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 02:08 PM
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Awkward for all the men shorter than my tall arse but oh well.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:59 PM
3

Not even to tie your own shoe or do you stick to Velcro shoes for that reason?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:55 PM
3

Thank you, I will! It’s always better with someone who enjoys it just as much as you do!
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:51 PM
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Tbf I was very insecure about my body when I started dating so I would refuse the offer (when it was rarely offered) because I thought it would be gross and they wouldn’t enjoy it. Then I realised I should probably consider my own pleasure and get over my insecurities. Now I love it and am with a man who loves it too. I don’t have penis envy but just enjoy a fantastic orgasm.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:29 PM
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So untrue. Speaking for myself, the more the guy is into it, the better.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/04/26 01:25 PM
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Yeh, I’m on meds for it. They can be helpful but working on developing good routines to deal with the worst parts has been very beneficial.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 06:46 PM
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Common ones I have seen is interrupting someone to finish their sentence in a conversation, time blindness (i think everything can be done in 20 mins. Shocker, it can’t), getting distracted by other sounds/conversations while talking with someone, struggling to get something done without a consequence/deadline.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/26 04:40 PM
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If you want to focus on the specific context and group explored in the study, then I agree that those women who reported the bias should address their internalised gender stereotypes. Yes, I can: https://psycnet.apa.org/doi/10.1037/1528-3542.5.1.80. This study found that in its participants, the fathers, more than mothers, tended to respond differently to boys’ vs. girls’ emotions and reinforcing gendered patterns (boys → anger, girls → sadness). https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4945126.…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:06 PM
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Yeh, I would say I’m surprised but I’m not. TBH it makes me wonder if the issue isn’t women aren’t sympathetic, but rather women aren’t being sympathetic in the exact way they want them to be.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 09:08 PM
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You are drawing a conclusion even the study didn’t claim because the sample size wouldn’t be big enough to generalise to the extent that you did and the study was conducted in a very specific context (parents reacting to their children’s emotional expression). This study certainly explores a facet of the issue. You can also find studies that fathers are more likely to enforce gender stereotypes in observable behaviours or more likely to discourage emotional expression in boys. Im not going to ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 08:08 PM
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I push back on both when I see or hear it.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:47 PM
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If you think the sole issue is women, then you are wrong. I think both men and women have a lot to do to remove the stigma.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 07:11 PM
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Ok Batman. I’m not sure the best way to argue your point is that men must always restrain themselves from committing violent crimes on the regular.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 06:43 PM
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Right, as if other men didn’t massively contribute to that.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 05:34 PM
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Having read the edit, I’m still not sure what you are recommending. Are you arguing that men should be encouraged to have a hoe phase to “reset their negative attitudes”? If so, I’m not sure how. You say this will “take sex off that huge pedestal” but surely it does the opposite. Saying casual sex is the “answer” inherently makes it important and therefore still on that pedestal. If anything, it centres sex as the goal which is the original problem for the men who feel growing resentment for not…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:53 PM
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I hate that men expressing their emotions or crying is usually perceived as a weakness or “not manly”. The stigma (or even fear of the stigma) is harmful and I really hope this changes soon.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:39 PM
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They can? Not sure how society can “let” an adult do something they aren’t legally restricted from doing. If men want to have a hoe phase at any point, they can.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 04:09 PM
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Women grow body hair too, even on their arse.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:58 PM
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I don't really see this as a gendered issue. Some people are better at communicating than others. If you are unsure of how someone feels or if they are being unclear, you should ask what you want to know. If they continue to be vague and you don't like that, your communication styles are incompatible, so you move on.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 02:34 PM
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I'm starting to suspect that Redditor is just Rollo at this point.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:24 PM
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Nah, I love my partner for who he is, even when he annoys me. Personally, I don't need resources from my partner because I provide those to myself as an adult. We do things for each other because we want to show our love and appreciation, not because we need to.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 12:13 PM
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I think it really depends on the culture/country. I grew up with unmarried parents (ironically they finally got married and then divorced within a year after 20+ years together unmarried) so marriage isn’t important to me nor a dealbreaker. I’m from the UK and it can be mixed in the attitudes from what I have seen. I grew up thinking Id be married with kids by my early 20s. That’s a hard no now as I’ve grown and most of my friends aren’t getting married until late 20s/early 30s, if at all. I liv…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/04/26 10:30 AM
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I’m from the UK and have heard similar gripes. I know some people factor in height when dating but I’ve never seen it be an instant no.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:50 PM
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Nope. Studied/lived their for a bit but not a citizen.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 05:38 PM
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Yep. None of my friends nor I have height restrictions when dating so can’t relate to this. But that is a hilarious standard and will just shoot her in the foot so 🤷‍♀️ She could date my uncle but he isn’t single so 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:54 PM
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Honestly I have not had a friend with unrealistic expectations in dating yet but when I do, I’ll report back!
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/26 04:45 PM
1

When? Did you ask them personally?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:30 PM
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Yeh, they probably wouldn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:13 PM
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You look great in it!
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:08 PM
11

Wow, you’ve been keeping that under your hats.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 05:06 PM
16

Literally or figuratively?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 04:34 PM
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I think both men and women can have warped expectations of each other due to social media etc. I know that there are extremely picky women, but I would say they are the minority (at least in my social circle). Most women understand what average is, and many probably believe themselves to be average, too.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 03:51 PM
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Is there a statistic for that?
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/26 02:56 PM
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Nah, he told me. I won’t repeat what he said because it was quite rude. Also thank god I’m not marrying a father.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 07:02 PM
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My dead dad downvoted your comment :(
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 06:58 PM
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I guess if it feels disrespectful to your father etc, then best not to do it. I loved my dad so not coming from hatred from my part nor do I think he would see it as such. Ultimately it’s always best to do what’s best for you and your relationship.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/26 08:24 AM
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Conservative think tank so I question the motives of their conclusions. Also the study itself doesn’t confirm that link. Just a lot of speculative comments on a survey study and Texas public divorce records.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 10:13 PM
1

You were trying to be subtle?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 09:12 PM
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Femicunts? I want that on a T-shirt.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 09:07 PM
1

What was the study?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 09:06 PM
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I’m not taking my future husband’s last name. Also I’m not really fussed about marriage nor its traditions. We will just do what works for us.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 07:27 PM
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We don’t plan to have children so wouldn’t really matter. It we did, either hyphenated or my surname.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 06:26 PM
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Yeh, same. Me and my fiancé have discussed using previous family names like one of our mum’s maiden names as neither of us are attached to our surnames. It’s either that or just keep our names as is.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:37 PM
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Personally, I know women who have taken their husband’s last name and those who haven’t. I don’t plan to take my future husband’s surnames. We discussed the option to just pick a new surname so we both change it to the same one we select together. I grew up with a different surname to my mum which never really negatively or positively impacted me or caused any issues. Honestly it was handy to use her as a reference when I first started working 😂
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 04:25 PM
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Yes they are lol. The amount of hate about women who they see as “subhuman” because they think women think they are “subhuman”
/r/PurplePillDebate17/04/26 03:52 PM
1

Sorry that the wives you know don’t love their husbands 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate16/04/26 07:34 AM
7

People be horny
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:33 PM
12

I mean no. They love them.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:03 PM
13

Oof, that’s a shame. The married women I know love their husbands.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 09:00 PM
7

Sure, but then it’s just desire not desire to procreate.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:55 PM
14

Not sure if it’s primal desire or more not knowing how to use contraception correctly.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:51 PM
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Straight men should figure their shit out then.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:49 PM
7

Are you married?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:48 PM
1

I’d choose neither. Why would I ask either what to do with my life?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 08:03 PM
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Completely agree. It was very damaging to men that they have to "want sex all the time" is considered the norm when it isn't. Also, it can damage future relationships. Women are taught that men "always want sex," so when their partner doesn't want to, they will internalise that and see it as a rejection of them as opposed to just not being in the mood, while men feel pressured to always want sex, even when they don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/04/26 04:16 PM
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Women are having sex with people. “Chad” has nothing to do with it despite how much red pill men throw around the moniker like there is a group of super males fucking all the bitches.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/26 05:24 PM
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True. But to form a whole identity and value system based on your inability to sleep/date the women you want is an interesting choice of personal agency.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:41 PM
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Who knew red pill men were so easily influenced. They should work on that.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/04/26 05:32 PM
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Sounds like no one wants to fuck you for free so 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:47 PM
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Essentially you are complaining because your ideal girl doesn’t exist in real life. What a bummer for you.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/26 11:25 PM
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Yeh, that doesn’t surprise me. Hence why the 20% argument confused me because I haven’t seen a pattern of this “women only go for the top 20% of men”
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 09:51 PM
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I mean, okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:01 PM
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Okay. Well he would be one of the guys I would be liking on dating apps, I can’t speak for all women or most.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:58 PM
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I do think people deserve better than what they have in general. Nah, I don’t expect that at all. But men seem to expect it of women by lowering their standards for them.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:54 PM
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Nah, that sounds very untrue and projection of your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:02 PM
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Does this happen every time? Well sounds like the girl is getting laid so a win is a win I guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:25 PM
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Well apparently men are going for women out of their league too.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:07 PM
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Because it’s easier to guilt someone into lowering their standards than it is to actually engage in self development.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:06 PM
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I have yet to see or know exactly what these “impossible standards” are that women set for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 05:03 PM
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This is why I only fuck guys into Pokemon.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 08:14 AM
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It isn’t just one though. My parents were in an age gap relationship as well. I have had friends who have had experiences with age gap relationships. I’m not criticising age gaps, I’m highlighting that there are red flags that people should look out for. I’m not saying every age gap relationship is bad, just that some are and the problematic ones have similar patterns. I mean, I am going to. You are welcome to criticise and push back, doesn’t really matter to me 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/26 07:44 AM
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Yeh, and both are cringe.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:36 PM
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Usually you can see the original comment (before editing) in your notifications if they responded to your comment directly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:38 PM
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Gagged.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:36 PM
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Omg just googled him and as an Overwatch 2 player, I did not know this! I wish it was :(
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:24 PM
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Then frame it however you like. If a girl is fucking around multiple guys at the same time, then she is shit. Same with a guy. That is just shitty behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:21 PM
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Men can do whatever they want tbh. I’m not criticising men leaving a relationship if they have differing priorities/boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:12 PM
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The animal. Poor guy looked just as shocked to see me as I was to see him.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:10 PM
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I just turned around and saw a whole ass fox on my sofa.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:00 PM
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Yeh no. I’m going to continue to do my own thing, thanks for the suggestion tho. Also who said I was criticising anyone? Highlighting the red flags I experienced in my previous age gap relationships are not criticism unless you are doing those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 08:41 PM
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Who (besides you) is saying women "must" do or think anything? Well, the OP stated that the main reason women wait is because they aren’t interested in you. I argue that it isn’t the only reason and there are many others that it could be. Im not saying anyone must do anything. Obviously there are exceptions but women who want to wait should probably be aware that many guys will interpret waiting as being uninterested. Yeh, if she doesn’t communicate why then that is probably what he will assume …
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 07:58 PM
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You’d be surprised. I sometimes think some older men approach younger girls because they get off more on making them feel uncomfortable than actually getting laid. I’ve had men too old for me try their luck purely because we are sat next to each other on the train.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:42 PM
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Nah, creepy is creepy. I’ve seen “attractive” men be creepy af.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:26 PM
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Yeh, I’m not sure. If waiting is a dealbreaker, don’t date women who want to wait 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:24 PM
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Yeh, fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 06:22 PM
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And I truly think that men wouldn't enjoy it if they experienced it the same way women do. I think men romanticise the interactions a lot. Sure, once in a blue moon, you might have a normal guy you are attracted to approach you. But usually, it's much older men, drunk men, weird men, predatory men, and men who can't/won't take no for an answer. Add in the mix that, since (and sometimes before) puberty, women are made aware that their bodies are sexual currency to men, whether they want it or not…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 04:20 PM
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I mean, it does. I think context is always important to consider in a debate. What would you consider a "negative statement about women as a group" as an example?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 04:11 PM
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Learning from experience is stupid? Who knew.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 04:05 PM
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Nope. Depends on where, who, and what they said. While you enjoy generalising, I don't.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 04:02 PM
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Fair enough
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:41 PM
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And that's all that will happen, in your view. A person who makes negative statements about women as a group isn't risking their job; their publishing contract; their social life; or anything else. That's your view, correct? Depends on where, who, and what they said. If they are a public figure, then they may receive more pushback for negative, incorrect generalisation vs someone on Reddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:39 PM
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Yeh, fair enough. If that is how it makes you feel, it's fair to step away. I just question the idea that if a woman makes you wait, it must be because she isn't into you. Sure, that can be a reason. But it isn't the only one.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:31 PM
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Yeh, I am sure that can be the case. The same can be said for men as well. I don't really understand the argument that if a woman has had sex on the first date in the past, it means she must/will sleep with you on the first date if she likes you.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:23 PM
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Yes, it does. I have seen people push back in instances where women and men are making sweeping generalisations about the opposite sex. They will criticise, debate, and argue as is their right. I am not sure what you want. Do you want the freedom of saying whatever you want with no social repercussions? If so, continue to say whatever you want anonymously. Do you want to be open about your opinions/beliefs? If so, understand that some won't agree with you and will treat you accordingly.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 03:19 PM
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Sure, and they can also be unsure. It really depends on the person's relationship with sex and what they want from a relationship. Every woman is different.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:57 PM
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Enjoy it while it lasts I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:03 PM
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TBH, if it isn't working for either, they should leave for their own reasons. It's true, you never have as much time as you think.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 02:01 PM
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Calling this “silencing” is a stretch. You’re not being prevented from expressing your opinions; people just push back when you make sweeping claims about an entire group. That’s not censorship, it’s disagreement.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 12:28 PM
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As an "older woman," I find it funny when people assume my criticism is bred from jealousy. It isn't, it's a result of my experiences.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:45 AM
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It can mean several things, including that she isn't sure of her feelings. If intimacy on your timeline is super important to you, then don't date women with these boundaries.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:21 AM
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What I mean is if most men were approached the way women are approached in their day-to-day, they would not like it. So, I am just giving the men what they want, to experience being desired on sight by a random woman, regardless of whether they are interested.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 11:16 AM
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Not how I do it
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:53 AM
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So true. Same with men. Don't walk around in a gilet and chinos and get mad when I catcall you in the line for coffee. If you didn't want me to comment on your big guns, put them away.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:35 AM
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See, men just ruining it for the girls and the gays, yet again
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:31 AM
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So true, I always leave the interactions so happy! Now, I make an effort to tell people I love their outfit whenever I can.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:29 AM
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Accurately estimating? Okay. Thats a great way to say you guessed. I’m really not, more pushing back at your generalisation because women are individuals. Your opinion isn’t representative of all women, I don’t understand why you keep claiming it is 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 10:10 AM
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You really overestimate how much women factor men into their thoughts when they get dressed. I’m dressing for the girlies (me included), not the lads.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/04/26 09:49 AM
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And?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:11 PM
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Why not. Let the men that think like this stick their dick in the USB-C port of a computer with tits. TBH I’d lowkey feel bad for the computer.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:04 PM
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No, we just don’t care about your dick. It’s really that simple.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:02 PM
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Yeh, my fiance loves it. I buy him Pokemon cards when he is a good boy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:53 PM
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Why should they be electing themselves as spokespeople to advocate against the very thing they do/participate in themselves. Why would/should they be upheld or listened to when they can’t do the very thing they tell others to do. Why are they placing shame/blame on others while avoiding that same treatment back.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 07:00 PM
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I mean does it? If I find men who are capable and proactive in chores attractive and say that is a priority for me to find a partner who will equally contribute in chores etc, then I will seek to find those types of men. What men want in general and if I met those expectations doesn’t really come into it. The only wants that matter are his and mine. If we don’t match, we move on. I mean I don’t think that the reason I find men doing chores hot means that I therefore must be ugly or lacking in so…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:55 PM
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Nothing hotter or more masculine than a man doing chores tbh.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:02 PM
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I think the most likely reason is “its okay if i do it but its sinful if anyone else does” aka hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 06:00 PM
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Rewards? Do you mean relationships or sex or both? Sure, men pursue women. But you do ignore that women also participate in the dating dynamic and can/do pursue back. I’m speaking from mine and my friend’s experiences so obviously an anecdotal observation.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 12:23 PM
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Don’t you have homework to finish?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 10:28 AM
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This teenage boy is a weird one. You aren’t getting much genuine discussion from him based on his other comments.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:32 AM
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School girls can walk to school in peace now
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 09:25 AM
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Penis = serious Vagina = silly
/r/PurplePillDebate02/04/26 08:54 AM
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Nice talk 👍
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 07:20 PM
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I think men fetishise the type of attention women get from men. Men focus on all the positive parts but ignore the limiting/negative parts. It sounds like you agree and men should decentre women and not seek validation they will never get.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 07:15 PM
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I’m sure that can happen too.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 07:12 PM
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You do know that “unwanted sex” is rape right?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 06:25 PM
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So the goal is for men to get the validation they seek? Why not dismantle the need for validation all together?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 05:05 PM
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So would the point be to remove the power imbalance altogether, so no one seeks validation externally, or is the goal for men to "regain" the majority of power? TBH, I don't think all women see all men as the enemy. I think some women hate men and some men hate women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:41 PM
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This sounds very similar to the feminist practice of women decentring men, which I think is healthy. No one should rely on the validation of others to determine their "worth."
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 04:13 PM
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Are men doing more childcare compared to women today?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:49 PM
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They didn’t say it was. They said that EVEN in cases of rape, abortion isn’t available. Abortion should be available to whoever needs it, but that’s just my opinion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:48 PM
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It gives the same energy as someone seeing an art piece and professing, "I could have done that!" Like I'm sure you think you could, but you didn't, and you can't.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:26 PM
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Have men not figured out how yet?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 03:21 PM
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Nah, it is much easier to keep to the age-old tradition of the men before him, ask a woman for help.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:59 PM
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Okay, I see. I mean, it's nice of you to ignore the use of Kevlar in military and safety equipment. I guess you are so right, women just invent silly things only for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:57 PM
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Examples of women working in these fields?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:48 PM
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A woman invented Kevlar.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:48 PM
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I mean, it would be an incorrect estimate, but whatever sounds right to you.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 02:17 PM
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There are pills for that.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 11:11 AM
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I mean, yeh. People who date women do it because they like women.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/26 07:21 AM
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(1) there were no formal rules for this until 1974. (2) yea, such is the case with scientific discovery. Are you saying that she never got the patent? Or that her contributions were actually cover for a man’s?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 10:02 PM
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Super convenient I’m sure
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 09:20 PM
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It’s always amazing to me how quick average men are to discredit women’s work.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:59 PM
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Too hard huh? Must be difficult to be constantly battling with your penis in your day to day life.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:51 PM
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No, they don’t have the most power. I do concede that some women can use their young pretty influence to their advantage.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:24 PM
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Yeh, because men placed the value on women’s sexuality. Don’t hate the player hate the game.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 08:17 PM
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Nah, I just value my time. I don’t really see the point as you have already said what you think. No need to debate really.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 07:22 PM
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Ew okay bro. I’ll leave you to your fantasies.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:45 PM
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Passion is an emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:27 PM
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This is quite an ironic take, given that women actually invented some scientific inventions attributed to men. But you know, sexism.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 06:03 PM
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Honestly, you seem to care way more about this than I do. If you want to be offended by what she said, you are welcome to. I get the impression she doesn't really care. Feels a bit repetitive to say, but women also work in all the fields you stated. It seems their work is invisible to you too so.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:57 PM
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Apparently, some men in this thread have taken that as a personal affront
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:49 PM
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I'm just gonna put this here: " I date women. In dating women, men have become more and more useless to me"
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:49 PM
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I assumed from the context clues of her responding in a thread about dating. She could mean all men are useless to her in general.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:42 PM
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I mean, no. It sounds a lil mean, but personally I wouldn't see that as sexism. If the guy started fucking and dating men and enjoying it more than with women, then yeah, women would be useless to him.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:40 PM
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I mean, in the context of dating, men are useless to her now. The same way a woman would be useless to a gay man.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:37 PM
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Who knew not dating men = sexism
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:29 PM
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I guess because you want to find a partner. Men complain and still date, so I guess people hope for luck when they enter the dating world.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/03/26 05:27 PM
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I had a man follow me on the freeway and try to block me in my lane because I smiled at him at a red light. Some men be creepy and see polite friendliness as expressions of sexual interest. Im sure some women may like the whole “I want him to work for it” stuff but tbh the negatives outweigh the positives in my mind because how can you really be sure every time.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 12:20 PM
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Yeh, male friends are cool. I like mine.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 12:17 PM
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Maybe the men that continue to pursue women even after they say they are not interested should learn how to read basic social cues and not be a little dweeb.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 12:16 PM
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Also the whole “I told him no and he wouldn’t take that as an answer so I had to block/avoid etc” is also pretty common thing. It’s happened to me a few times.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/03/26 09:31 AM
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Ew what
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 08:48 PM
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Are you straight?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:37 PM
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Say this sentence three times quickly
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:36 PM
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It really isn't. Women get rejected too, and do approach men. Also, men have just as much control over changing their appearance as women do. Women are just expected to do it more than men.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:05 PM
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Okay, that is an interesting observation. Depends on what you mean by "average" in this context, though. Are you saying the "average woman" is still physically attractive, or on average, women are usually more attractive than men?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 04:02 PM
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But surely the unattractive women are unattractive due to their genetics/looks too?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/03/26 03:44 PM
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Nah, just your comment was dumb and I really can’t be bothered to engage so whatever you think my guy!
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 08:06 PM
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Whatever you say chief
/r/PurplePillDebate25/03/26 06:46 PM
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Sure, why not
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:44 PM
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Nah, it’s when women become invisible to men so they can focus on useful shit now.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/03/26 05:31 PM
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Nope. This just isn’t the only option anymore. Women and men are allowed to pick something else for themselves. People who want this marriage can have it, and those who don’t, don’t. It’s just not the default now, for good reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 08:58 AM
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Yeh, they tried this like a century ago, didn’t like it.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/03/26 08:44 AM
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I do get where you are coming from but I think you have to add the context that women are taught socially that their body is something that men will want. We are aware of men’s desires since before puberty unfortunately. So, going into dating apps, it’s not a big surprise. I think you add different value than women because of this.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 06:26 PM
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Men can veto at any time as well. Men can choose not to have sex or continue sex if it’s already initiated. In the instance that a man wants to have sex with a woman, you are right that she has the deciding say if the man doesn’t change his mind. But only in that, she doesn’t have final say anymore if he no longer wants to or circumstances change.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 05:08 PM
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Yes but surely sacrifice and compromise is a two way street. If one partner is always sacrificing and compromising with no flexibility from the other, then all that will do is breed resentment and kill any love.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 03:52 PM
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Okay, my experience has been that there are women who will date shorter men, but we can agree to disagree there. The best and most efficient type of flirting is built on mutual interests. Ideally, you want to be friendly to a woman you are flirting with. Unless you want to neg, but then you are just an arsehole then.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:37 PM
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Do you think women just walk up to a man, point, and say "him" and then that's dating? Of course men can be active. They are active in how they present themselves, who they talk to, what they talk about, where they go to meet people etc. These are all active choices men make in dating. The same goes for women. No one is guaranteed receptive behaviour to their advances. Yes, you can’t control someone else’s decision, but that’s not the same as having no control. It’s just the basic reality of int…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:26 PM
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True, his Dad wasn't in his life, and looking into his Dad's views, it seems they are actually quite similar in their world views, ironically. Also, he received a private education and can therefore assume he had access to better opportunities than most people. Well, first of all, no, he won't, because I just said so. Unless you are arguing that you have a better understanding of who I would date than I do? I have dated short and tall men, and that was never the deciding factor in whether I was …
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:17 PM
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As an average woman, I would say I’d avoid him like the plague. I mean his status with specific women (who he seems to look down anyway). Okay, I’m tall, should I be arrogant because my parents have lanky genes? I guess he presents an image of having money and flaunts it, which some people like. I’m not really sure what product he is selling other than “if you do all these things and give me money, for crypto, you’ll be just like me” which isn’t a great business model because he clearly had priv…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 02:02 PM
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What does he have to be genuinely arrogant about?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:52 PM
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Not the OG commenter but what do you mean men have no control over their sex lives? Of course they do. Men are not passive in the dating process and if that’s how they approach it, then they won’t get anywhere.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:46 PM
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What a random claim to make. Tbh he comes across as an entitled, uninformed, sleazy twat but I had no idea who he was until the doc. There is a difference between confidence and misplaced arrogance.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/03/26 01:39 PM
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I can judge people sure, I just don’t judge them if they are into consensual kinky sex. If you think consent isn’t one of the most important things in sex then I’m not really sure what you think is. You are free to judge whoever you want and I’m free not to. Editing to add as you added something about kids in your comment. Please note I said ADULTS. Yes the sexualisation of children in any form is disgusting.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 04:04 PM
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Who am I to judge what two consenting adults do? I’m not the sex or moral police.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:53 PM
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Ermmm no. As long as sex and boundaries are consequential and agreed between adults, I don’t really care what people do.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 03:49 PM
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Dark romance is at least honest about being fantasy. The real concern for me is when someone reads something and turns it into an excuse to be unkind in real life. Not to say everyone who reads the Bible or is Christian is inherently unkind but I do see many people using the Bible to excuse their bad behaviour or reinforce dangerous attitudes to anyone who doesn’t fit into their idea of “normal”.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 02:42 PM
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You going to pay them too? Are they exempt from the female only draft or is it fair game once they hit American soil?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:40 PM
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Nahhhhh.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/26 12:39 PM
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Well that is an opinion I guess. You are welcome to like or dislike books and genres all you want. But to claim a whole genre is shit because you don’t like it is just so juvenile. Just because you don’t see the value doesn’t mean there is no value to be found by anyone. I don’t like catcher in the rye because I can’t relate to the character or the plot. I think it’s difficult to read or even care about the characters, the stream of consciousness style is jarring at best. But I also understand w…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:54 PM
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Just because you don’t like a book, doesn’t mean it isn’t considered a classic and masterpiece by many. If that were the case, then Catcher in the Rye is garbage.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 11:15 PM
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I guess Jane Austen, William Shakespeare, Charlotte Brontë, EM Forster etc can all go fuck themselves?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 10:26 PM
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Nope, they don’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:27 PM
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Attraction is subjective.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:02 PM
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Except it is. Women have different types for a reason aka different things they find attractive in partner. Sometimes it overlaps, sometimes it doesn’t.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 09:01 PM
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Tbh I’d be more worried about a man who reads the bible regularly than a man who reads the dark romance.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:41 PM
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Much of what drives beauty standards today is capitalism. It pays to set and market a certain type of look for men and women and then convince you all these products can either fix it or make up for you not being XY or Z. Also what do you consider a HVM? Because for the women I know who are dating, they are looking for men who employed/can support themselves, attractive, and nice to them. Is that such a small percentage of men? Sure, women created a website to see if they were date were dating t…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 07:05 PM
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Sometimes you don’t even need to be nice to them
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:56 PM
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I prefer fantasy smut to dark romances but I wont yuck anyone’s yum. Reading is fun and everyone has different tastes. I wouldn’t care if my partner read the counterpart.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:55 PM
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Standards of beauty and personal attraction are different things. One is determined by society while the other is individual. Standards of beauty can influence personal attraction for sure but to say that all or most women are attracted to the same men is stupid. I can say a guy is objectively attractive but I don’t want to fuck him. I’m sure you see it as “pretend” because it’s much easier to blame all women for having “super high standards” than it is to accept that some men want everything ju…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:52 PM
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Same with mid guys tbh
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 05:39 PM
1

Oh for sure. But I don’t think cheating is a good course of action either.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:42 PM
3

Lookism? I think most if not all women agree that being attracted to a guy is important when dating. But attraction is subjective and can sometimes be more than looks, as one persons yum is another persons yuck.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:30 PM
1

I agree. And in the case of someone giving up or using it as a currency, then it’s best to just leave.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 04:26 PM
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And if a man can’t fulfill his wife sexually, he deserves to be cheated on too I assume?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:54 PM
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I’m not really sure what your debate prompt is here? That people who identify as BP are RP in disguise? My understanding is that BP is just a rejection of all RP ideology.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:52 PM
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No, no one is entitled to sex. You can want it, sure. But to argue that men have a special privilege to sex is dumb. Anyone can cheat if they want, but they aren’t free from people avoiding them or judging them for it.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/26 03:26 PM
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Okay, so women have requirements to enter a relationship. What’s the issue with that?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/03/26 07:24 AM
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Me and my fiance call each other cunt all the time. But it isn’t said in anger which I think makes the difference
/r/PurplePillDebate14/03/26 12:22 AM
2

Yep, always offer. I have split the bill, been paid for and paid for my dates before.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:24 PM
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I did? I think people are pissed when either is told to settle. Women are pissed when they are told to settle by men, and men are pissed when they are told to settle by women. So neither should be told to settle.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:43 PM
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Well, women have the same option. They can either date or not date at all if they aren't attracting the people they want. Honestly, I don't think most men are settling as you say. If they feel like they are settling, then that is honestly sad for both him and his partner.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:33 PM
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Okay, well they can either date those women or not date at all. Men don’t have to do anything.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 05:21 PM
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Well, looks like it’s time to move my investments to pocket pussies, get ahead of the crowd! The effort to write and post this wasn’t worth it. We get it. You think women are just holes and should be viewed as commodities. That is neither original nor revolutionary.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/03/26 09:52 AM
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What poor behaviour? Having an opinion?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:34 PM
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Okay? Do whatever you want to justify your poor behaviour, it's still poor behaviour.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 10:29 PM
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Even wilder that she picked Morgan Wallen
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:38 PM
2

Tbh it’s probably the worst thing in their world. Which okay fine. Not sure being angry at the demographic you want to fuck is a great strategy. But seriously….
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:33 PM
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Okay, I didn’t realise men not getting more than 5 likes on tinder is an infringement on his human rights.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/03/26 09:17 PM
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Somehow, I doubt you would ever shut up about women
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:36 PM
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He CAN say that. It would just be wrong. I don't think it's a moral failing to not get a date, nor do I think everyone who struggles to date is an incel. I do think it's a moral failing for men to blame women for not dating them. I think it's entitlement that drives the view that a woman being hurt or mistreated by a man is deserved because she decided to date him, so therefore she allowed herself to be hurt. Why is it that most of these arguments boil down to men being mad that they are denied …
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:33 PM
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I would love to find a bear!
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 11:07 PM
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WOMEN. WOULDN'T. NEED. PROTECTION. IF. MEN.STOPPED.ATTACKING.PEOPLE.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:57 PM
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How is dating and the truth equivalent? I would agree if the post argues that if a man or a woman can't get a date, it's an issue they need to address within themselves. But instead it seems that OP wants to compare men not having access to the women they want to women being "used" as equal grievances. They aren't.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:55 PM
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Alot apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:54 PM
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These factors exist. They just aren't important to all women.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:52 PM
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I'm sorry that's been your experience
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:33 PM
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Women don’t owe you a date, but you keep complaining about it so
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:21 PM
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Or literally the definition of the word but pop off.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:00 PM
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So essentially men being pissed they don’t have access to women the way they want is equivalent to women being pissed that men “use” them?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 09:58 PM
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I’m sure some men do. And those men must be very sad and unfulfilled.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/26 10:33 AM
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Yeh, I completely agree that it is gendered in that respect. It is definitely disadvantageous to people for a variety of reasons such as economic, social, gender etc. You see it in the discussions around hybrid vs office working and how those pushing for a return to the norm “5 days in, no flex” are usually the directors, CEOs (usually married men) and those who don’t have to factor in managing households, travel costs, living costs, child care etc to their lives. While I get the gendered percep…
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 05:53 PM
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I never thought of this opinion (9-5, 5 day work week being shit) was gendered in any way. We all hate it, it fucking sucks. Not sure what your algorithm is showing you because this isn’t a common or coherent argument.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 04:44 PM
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This response is so funny. 10/10
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:04 AM
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Because it is incoherent, hypocritical and essentially Red pill in a pink bow. It’s just dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 02:03 AM
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Her take is dumb.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 01:37 AM
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Didn't say it was...
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/26 12:26 AM
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Or god forbid, a man
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:16 PM
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Anyone who is sexually active needs them
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 10:07 PM
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Nah I know the difference between a man making a dumb joke and someone who is negging. Negging is used to put down someone while elevating themselves while bantering is a two way communication style. Also weird to say my interpretation is wrong because it reflects the textbook definition. Can you give me an example of “bad humour” vs “negging”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:32 PM
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Fucking dead
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:10 PM
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I mean that would make sense, but I guess catcalling isn’t really about the girl/woman but about showing other men they can make girls/women uncomfortable just because. It’s weird tbh and hope it’s a dying art
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 09:09 PM
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Banter and negging are different things. One usually requires you to be self deprecating and witty/clever, the other is a tool to put others down and manipulate.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:58 PM
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Im not sure “negging” works anymore, it did with millennials to a certain extent, but I think the new Gen Z/Alpha tend to see through it. Catcalling never works and never really understood its purpose other than to make girls and women feel unsafe.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:33 PM
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Im really struggling with how much you relate flirting to sibling interactions. I get being “silly and goofy” with your partner can make you feel nostalgic and happy, but I wouldn’t say that has anything to do with sibling interactions. Also, I get that you learn from your siblings, especially older ones, on how to navigate social life/dating by seeing and listening to them. But that’s as far as I would connect sibling relationships to dating.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:28 PM
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I started at around 12 years old, working on my parents market stall and shop. Hated it at the time but loved the pocket money. It definitely helped me develop my customer service skills early.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/03/26 07:00 PM
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I mean, men have literally said that me on Reddit. Either a variation of women always lie, don’t listen to women blah blah blah. Oh I’m sure men feel like some women’s standards are unfair, but hey, don’t date those women then. If they are claiming all or most of women have unrealistic expectations then sounds like they need to self reflect.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 03:02 PM
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Nah
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 09:11 AM
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Neither are women’s. But hey, women can’t be trusted but men can apparently
/r/PurplePillDebate04/03/26 06:36 AM
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Whatever you need to tell yourself to make you feel smart sweetie 🧚🏻‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:25 PM
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I mean, they are though. This sub is full of men complaining that they can’t meet women’s “ridiculously high” standards. Essentially asking why women won’t like them. When women ask that question it’s because they believe the man is treating them badly BECAUSE they are a woman. Your question proves this because it basically asks what women are doing to “earn” common decency from men.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:16 PM
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I did :)
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:06 PM
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What have men done to be likeable to women?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 10:06 PM
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They can’t because who else can they blame for their shitty personalities not getting them laid.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:58 PM
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Do people still use OkCupid?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 06:23 PM
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Nah, I’m good.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 04:58 PM
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Maybe men should sleep with the stats then, if they support them.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:22 PM
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100s? 1000s? There are a lot of women in the world, they are not a monolith.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:29 AM
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Clearly men should be having a lot less sex if that was the case.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 09:27 AM
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Sure, I’ll take your word on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 08:00 AM
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Which women? Some? All?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 07:36 AM
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Sure it has
/r/PurplePillDebate03/03/26 12:00 AM
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Just because you know one or two or even three women who have those standards, that doesn’t mean every woman has those standards. Me and my friends have all dated a range of heights and physical types. I don’t question that women can have high standards, I just question the statement that the majority of women have these “unrealistic” standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:44 PM
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Did I miss that questionnaire? My bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:34 PM
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Yeh….attractive is subjective. It’s different to different people.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:30 PM
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Ranged from 5ft 6 - 6ft 2. How tall were your last 4 dates/bfs?
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 11:03 PM
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Honestly reading posts like this make me question my dating history because if all the men I dated were considered “top tier”, then those are some shallow tiers. Even seeing my friends date, they don’t have any high unrealistic expectations, just the nice, attractive and funny.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:57 PM
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I mean you can try
/r/PurplePillDebate02/03/26 10:51 PM
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Cool.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:30 PM
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I think if it’s used genuinely in an argument, you know where they are pulling their talking points from. I mean I’d take it as a compliment 😂 I can’t tell if they want to be a Chad or they hate them?
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:29 PM
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No, it’s ever changing. Generally, it seems to mean men who have sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/26 07:19 PM
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I honestly hope there is. I can finally delete Duolingo for a more important skill
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:20 PM
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“Winging eyeliner” 10/10 new hobby
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:07 PM
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Bro why are you so grumpy? I get you reject the concept that this advice is helpful, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t helpful to some or most. I’ve read through these comments and clearly all you want to do is argue with people.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 10:06 PM
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Hardly. Just questioning the validity of your argument if you are using memes to prove your point. So, some people on the internet played into the idea women don’t like to pick where to eat because it’s funny. Do I think it’s a damning critique of women? Not really. Do I think some women can be indecisive when picking food? Sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 07:04 PM
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Yeh, it’s a no from me. I’m sure that’s how you see it. Bold of you to calm every man is the same as you.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:19 PM
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May men like you never find me in this life time or any other. Just ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:05 PM
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You are supporting your argument with memes? There are many popular memes showcasing men’s apparent gendered shortcoming, so I should just apply those memes to every man I meet. Sweet!
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 06:02 PM
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I think people can act childish. Do I think women share a set of similarities with children? No.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 05:09 PM
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You could find examples of men doing the very same thing. Shall we apply the same gendered behaviour to men as well then? The example you’ve given is an abuser being an abuser, not a woman being a woman.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:54 PM
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And do you want to date women? Because to infantilise women while trying to purse them as romantic partners is a strange combination. Also not sure in what context you stating these? In general women just peace out when they feel like it at work? Are you talking about women leaving relationships because they feel like it? Either way this observation could be applied to men too so 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:34 PM
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Why is there always a comment equating women to children? It’s always a very strange and creepy comparison.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/02/26 04:18 PM
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Twin 2
/r/PurplePillDebate23/02/26 07:21 PM
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I wonder what kind of dating circles you run in. I think it happens, sure. But it is the minority. Also there is a difference between a woman purposely using her body and sex to get what she wants versus a man seeing a woman sleep with him quickly because she likes him and wants too as some sort of conscious manipulative tactic.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:21 PM
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That use sex to manipulate? Yeh probably. Same for men tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:07 PM
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I think some women can and have used sex explicitly to get what they want from someone. Most women? Nah.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 07:05 PM
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Are women doing that? One of the mutual benefits of a relationship is sex.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/02/26 06:59 PM
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A date is fun when both people enjoy it. If you are planning a Pokémon date with someone who hates Pokémon, then neither of you will have a good time. Yes, fun is subjective. I would say that most men who are dating have organised a "fun date" at some point. I am sure most women have as well. I would hope that the minimum requirement of planning a date is that both of you will have fun. Otherwise, what is the point?
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:25 PM
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Yeh, I think it's a fun date. Do I think everyone will think it's a fun date? No. If a guy wants to share their hobby with me, I think it's fun and sweet. Personally, I think passion for anything (including Pokémon) is attractive. So yes, I do think normal guys plan fun dates.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 03:09 PM
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Well then, date a person who doesn't find Pokémon boring.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:55 PM
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Then talk about and play Pokémon on a date.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/26 02:45 PM
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I don’t think I want them too tho….
/r/PurplePillDebate15/02/26 10:37 AM
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Ahh nice! Hell yeh! Well Reddit is certainly a great place to learn your debating and writing skills. Also your patience! That’s fair, I try to comment too but sometimes I can’t be going back and forth with someone who (99% of the time) uses terms like chad and cuck to understand the female experience. Yeh, I think the idea that all women are instantly suspicious of seeing a man with kids is strange. I’ve personally never felt like that, quite the opposite (unless they are genuinely being creepy…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 11:25 AM
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Girl, you are stronger than me to continue to debate. 100% agree. Similar to you, the men in my life and those I’ve met haven’t expressed these experiences as “typical or default” for men. Some are single dads too and have no issues taking their kids out solo.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/02/26 10:28 AM
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The same could be said for you tho. The algorithm will show you exactly what you engage with and read more.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 09:55 PM
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Apparently that isn’t clear enough for some guys and you need to hire a plane to sky write it.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 07:20 PM
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But think of the poor men who want to get their dick wet with whoever they want whenever they want!!! They have no self control, so it’s clearly the woman’s fault for not telling him clearly but kindly that they don’t want his penis.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/26 06:43 PM
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Don’t knock it till you true it
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 11:23 PM
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I mean in reference to child marriage, people do want to change but politicians in a certain party seem to block any bills to change the law so. In terms of people complaining and critiquing men dating younger women online 🤷‍♀️ I feel like if men are gonna keep talking about it online, it’s fair for people to criticise
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:28 PM
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Yeh fair, my point is that just because it’s legal, doesn’t mean it is free from criticism. Society doesn’t complain about what?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:55 PM
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In some parts of America, you can legally marry someone under the age of 18 if you get a parent’s consent. Still very legal but would be fair to criticise and question the motives of a grown man marrying a teenager.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:36 PM
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What do you consider old?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 09:31 PM
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Nah, it’s always been gross. Women have been calling it out for a while. They just get called old jealous hags 🤷‍♀️
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 08:10 PM
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I’d be surprised to hear a woman speak fondly on their age gap relationship tbh. I dated a 40 year old when I was 21. He was my supervisor where I volunteered and said to my face “now I only want to date women in their 20s”. I’ve never cringed so hard. Luckily I was moving country so I left with minimal drama. But still, 31 year old me wouldn’t give him the time of day now.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 08:04 PM
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What is considered "unreasonable," though?
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 05:13 PM
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Nice! I never tried the edibles there, but the coffee houses are awesome. Hope you both have a fab time!
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:40 AM
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Bro do both. Makes museums wayyy more fun.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/02/26 10:33 AM
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This is an awful and harmful opinion on sexual assault.
/r/MensRights11/02/26 10:31 PM
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I think most people on this sub would wish you would shut up and here we are. Yeh, because in 100% of the cases where a woman tells a man they are doing something wrong and then advises them on how to improve, the man always listens and actions immediately.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:20 PM
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Not sure it’s a good look to complain that women aren’t telling men what to do more.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 09:02 PM
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You should probably start asking for advice from different people if this is the feedback you receive.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 05:44 PM
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I assumed that was for cheating purposes. Also, if you want the complaining women to "mature" and pick better, then you should want the "men who suck" to mature too.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:57 PM
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The men who don't do their part in their relationship. The men these women are complaining about.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:47 PM
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Yeah, you can be messy around the house, but have great personal hygiene. They are not mutually exclusive. Also, I know people with messy cars and immaculate houses, and vice versa. Of course, you can ask questions, but they may lie and cover up their behaviour until it's easier to get away with. Also, it isn't always malicious. Some people will have the skills and be fine living solo, but once they move in with a proactive partner, they may rely on them to cover a majority of the chores because…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:46 PM
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So men should take accountability for being shit partners the same way women should take accountability for picking poorly. Seems fair.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:35 PM
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Maybe men can do the mature thing and learn to do laundry without prompting or write a shopping list without a step-by-step guide.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:28 PM
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Because you usually don't realise the dynamic shift until you move in together. And then you are financially tied, so more likely to compromise and try to make it work. Also, they may help for days/weeks after being confronted about slacking off, but then they can fall back into uneven chore loads. I think all kids should be taught life skills like laundry, cleaning skills, life admin, cooking etc.
/r/PurplePillDebate11/02/26 02:25 PM
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I’m glad someone said it
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 01:11 AM
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I like it when men put their hand behind the passenger seat when backing into a parking spot.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/02/26 12:29 AM
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There are many ugly things people can be. For me, fat isn’t one of them. For you, it clearly is.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 11:07 PM
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I think we will have to agree to disagree on that one.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 11:03 PM
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Obese by BMI standards? Okay then, I amend my statement. It’s a very middle school take to comment on a post about women being the fairer sex by saying “no cos most women are fat.”
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 10:58 PM
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Well the context clues of “average” which would imply you are referring to most American women. You also said you hadn’t seen an “attractive woman” in over 5 years, which would imply that there are little to no outliers of that average. So yeh, lowkey seems like your opinion is that most American women are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 10:50 PM
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This feels like a middle school take. Also weird opportunity to just say that all American women are fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 10:39 PM
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The study (Domestic abuse victim characteristics, England and Wales: year ending March 2025 - I assume unless you are discussing a different one?) literally does not say that; you are making an assumption. It does not log the perpetrator's gender in the statistics, and it includes partner and family abuse in its report. The only time it does is in that study, is when looking at domestic homicide victims which showed that in the case of a male victim, 58% were by a male family member. I agree tha…
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:58 PM
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When you reference the "41% of Wales and England DV victims," are you arguing that women are the main perpetrators in those situations or are you critical of the statistics being counted as "victims of violence against women and girls" despite the victims being male?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/26 01:28 PM
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I feel like this comment was a projection. Some people like to derail a discussion on gender because they feel personally attacked by women sharing their negative experiences with men. If you want to lump yourself in with the "bad men" and be offended, pop off.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 06:51 PM
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Yep.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:38 PM
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And yet men still be murdering
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:37 PM
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If a man cannot regulate his emotional responses, then he needs to work on that. I tend to not generalise as some women find traits attractive while others don’t so can’t answer that. But I’d be surprised to hear them say they like that their partner could be violent at the drop of a hat.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 03:04 PM
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Absolutely not. Honestly, that is such a juvenile view. Women aren’t foaming at the mouth to date a man who punches walls when he is mildly inconvenienced.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:54 PM
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Ooohhhh okay got it. That pretty much explains everything I need to know about your views. May men like you never find me in this lifetime 💚
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:46 PM
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I think it’s more interesting than your suggestion. What would your suggestion prove, other than reinforce what victims have already shared? So if women stop getting into relationships with violent men, that will stop them being violent? Women have spoken on why they have been involved with violent men (the ones that survive and leave). If you ask why they stayed, you will hear that it was due to fear for their safety, safety of those they love, emotional and verbal abuse, no external support, f…
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:24 PM
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I think it would be interesting to look into why some men resort to violence and abuse to get what they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:12 PM
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That’s okay. It’s nice to see internet strangers showing empathy 💚
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:08 PM
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It’s okay, I think I’ll live.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:06 PM
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Ouch, that hurt my feelings.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 02:04 PM
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Because they feel it’s a direct attack on their character rather than an observation meant to instigate discourse on the negative impacts of gendered social conditioning on women and men. Sometimes I think they just want to be the biggest victim in the room so no one can be mad or criticism them.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:53 PM
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This makes sense. Although I always wonder if they realise it isn’t always violence alone that makes women feel unsafe. Most women will have many uncomfortable and scary experiences with men throughout their lives, sometimes before they turn 18 and enter the dating world. Those things can build and impact how you see and interact with society.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:49 PM
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I’m not sure why some men are so offended if a woman says they are cautious around men due to their previous negative interactions. If I have experienced violence and abuse at the hands of a man while in a relationship with him, I will be looking out for red flags or behaviours I didn’t notice to make sure it doesn’t happen again in a future relationship. The same will happen if the man is a victim of DV from his female partner. I wouldn’t see his initial caution as offensive.
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/26 01:42 PM
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Calling dating a “market women control” is just a way to offload your frustration. Everyone filters by looks first, men included. That’s not power, that’s human. Effort doesn’t guarantee attraction, but neither do looks. Attraction isn’t fixed or purely genetic; it’s influenced by confidence, social skills, presentation, and how you show up. Saying men have zero agency is convenient, but it’s also false. If women actually controlled outcomes, they wouldn’t be getting rejected, ghosted, or stuck …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:39 PM
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I literally said that looks matter. I just don't agree that dating begins and ends with it. I think other factors are also considered and can impact whether you deem someone attractive. I disagree with any approach that will oversimplify a very human and nuanced experience. This approach reeks of entitlement. If you follow your train of thought, and it is all the women's fault. What now? Should women rethink what they consider attractive? Should they have to sleep with one lonely man per year to…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 04:10 PM
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Looks matter, but they’re not the ONLY thing that matters. If attraction were only about looks, dating outcomes wouldn’t vary nearly as much as they do. Saying personality and social skills matter isn’t “blame shifting,” it’s pointing to factors that can actually change results. Reducing dating to women “deciding the outcome” is an oversimplification, not honesty. It's just a convenient way to remove all responsibility from men while they complain that more women aren't dating them.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 03:39 PM
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I hope your sweet treat is satisfying. Yeh, I'm going to have to agree to disagree on that. I don't think ALL women want special handling. I'm sure some do. As I am sure some men want to throw back to when women didn't have social or financial independence. I don't, therefore, think ALL men want that.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:41 PM
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Huh? I think people deserve basic respect and decency. What am I looking for?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:26 PM
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Oop my bad!
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:15 PM
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You are so right. Apologies. I forgot I needed to wait for a man to tell me what I want and how I feel. Sorry, forgot myself for a second then.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 01:11 PM
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I am not questioning his statement about straight men. I'm sure that is the case for those who identify as straight. I question the assumption that because a straight woman watches and enjoys lesbian/solo porn, then they are gay.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:30 PM
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So the solution is for women to be kinder to men? Whose responsibility is it if some men are complaining about being romantically lonely? If all women acknowledged that being attractive is an important factor in dating, what does that solve?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 12:21 PM
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How do you know? Have you done studies on how straight women watch and perceive porn? What they like/dislike? What they are focusing on? What determines them to select that video? It just seems like you really want to argue that most women aren’t straight for some reason.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/02/26 09:57 AM
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Yawn. Stop crusading on no one’s behalf. Sometimes interactions on Reddit do not need to be paragraph long interactions. I don’t think they were looking to debate nor did they ask me any questions. I asked a question, they answered. I don’t have to agree to the answer nor do I need to submit a rebuttal. I believe that the Gamma Bias referenced is an over simplification when applied to human sexuality. It is not the case that men are seen as solely dangerous and bad while women are solely pure an…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 11:28 PM
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Okay? I can still ask questions and not agree with the answers. Wasn’t even being mean my guy.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 10:24 PM
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If it crosses a boundary established between two people, then it is bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:47 PM
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I think we might have had two different experiences with how society perceives male v female sexuality. Probably to be expected though.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:42 PM
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I think sexuality and preferences are personal. How do you think society perceives male sexuality?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:25 PM
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I've never seen it presented as "moral" or "righteous," but we might have different algorithms.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:21 PM
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I'm curious. What do you mean by the "rosy historical framing of women's sexuality"?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 08:16 PM
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Oh sorry, here is my explanation:
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 09:43 AM
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All of this is just ew.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/02/26 12:16 AM
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If I remember to charge it, then yes, probably. Honestly, don't really care. Unless they are interrupting me to show me their Strava stats on their watch, it isn't a deal breaker.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:21 AM
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Can’t be judging when I wear an Apple Watch too. I’d draw the line at a Sonic the Hedgehog wrist watch tho.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/02/26 09:11 AM
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I had a friend who needed it in his mid 30’s due to tight foreskin so yeh, pretty sure it is medically necessary unless he did that for shits and giggles.
/r/MensRights30/01/26 09:38 PM
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Okay, I hope circumcision is banned on babies and only used in cases where it is medically needed.
/r/MensRights30/01/26 09:23 PM
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Not sure why.
/r/MensRights30/01/26 09:21 PM
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Yes it is.
/r/MensRights30/01/26 09:20 PM
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Okay, that's shitty of the doctor. I have also heard that in some instances, the dad push for circumcision for their sons so they don't have different-looking penises. Silly reason to surgically remove something from a baby, but I guess if you don't know how to care for an uncircumcised penis, it's harder to teach, so you would rather just continue with what you know, especially if you believe it's "cleaner". Also, I guess American women could prefer it because it's what they know, and maybe the…
/r/MensRights30/01/26 05:38 PM
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I don't know about most. Speaking for myself and my friends, it's just kinda awkward to reject someone. You want to be nice but also not too nice in case it is read as a maybe. Hence why most women use the "I have a boyfriend," even if they don't. It tends to be the most effective if a "no thank you, sorry" isn't respected. But this business plan is weird af, and clearly they haven't thought it through.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:37 PM
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Modern marketing can be so unhinged sometimes.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 03:32 PM
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Okay? Are people shit on the internet? Absolutely. The post is hyperbolic for sure. However, I do understand frustration and pressure on women to do a lot of things to their bodies from puberty for the sole purpose of being perceived as attractive by men. Do I think all men show up with shit-stained underwear? Obviously not. I could also find examples of men posting about how women are equivalent to children and should be treated as such or women should revert to our "roots" as mothers and manag…
/r/MensRights30/01/26 02:57 PM
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4bmovement? I'll check it out. However, my quick Google search shows that it's women who are deciding to "decentre" men from their lives. Each to their own.
/r/MensRights30/01/26 02:16 PM
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Wait. Serious question because I genuinely want to understand this, and I am unfamiliar, but are the circumcisions performed in the US for women? My understanding is that it was driven en masse by weird ideas that it was "healthier" or something (unless performed for religious purposes), and from then on, it's now a social norm for most American men to be circumcised despite the health benefits being debunked.
/r/MensRights30/01/26 02:14 PM
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Oo you missed my most recent one on a post from a man who said that women should “return to their roots” and be mothers and cook and clean for their men: You can go back to your roots, I’m going to stay right here. Also, so weird to frame this as a benefit to women when it just benefits men by putting all the responsibility on women while minimising their contributions cos men are leading and providing? Providing what? The audacity? Just let people do what they want and you do what you want.
/r/MensRights30/01/26 01:20 AM
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Oooo you got me 😂 Thanks for highlighting some of my funniest comments.
/r/MensRights30/01/26 01:14 AM
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Scolding? Feels like projection there my friend. I just made a comment. It was neutral and an observation. Not a personal attack on all men. Apologies if it came across that way. Oop. I’m dumb as well? Sweet. I guess I should just take everything said by men’s rights advocates on social media as an attitude held by everyone in the movement. So I assume you advocate for taking voting rights away from women? I think it is fair to criticise the practice of generalising to support your argument. I d…
/r/MensRights30/01/26 01:11 AM
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You can go back to your roots, I’m going to stay right here. Also, so weird to frame this as a benefit to women when it just benefits men by putting all the responsibility on women while minimising their contributions cos men are leading and providing? Providing what? The audacity? Just let people do what they want and you do what you want.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/01/26 12:42 AM
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I’m pretty sure a majority of feminists aren’t advocating for this, just some random lady on TikTok. Also again, where did I say you shouldn’t talk about social media likes? My point is this isn’t an indication of common public sentiment. People like unhinged stuff all the time. No, women do try but it’s difficult to obtain unless you have already had a child. Also do feminists or doctors claim it? Let’s not conflate the two. Women have to pick from a variety of contraceptives that are invasive …
/r/MensRights30/01/26 12:20 AM
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Where did I tell men to stop being dramatic? I merely said this won’t ever be implemented. Also lowkey sounds like you agree with me that likes on social media don’t reflect real life attitudes. TBH I’m not sure why more men don’t get a vasectomy. Should it be forced on young boys, no.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 11:55 PM
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100% support developing the ability for men to father children.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 09:26 PM
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Yeh, circumcision is weird.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 09:24 PM
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Where?
/r/MensRights29/01/26 09:16 PM
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I wouldn’t equate likes on TikTok etc to genuine support for this policy. It would literally never happen.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 08:51 PM
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I’m not denying women use it as well. I’m sure they do.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 08:36 PM
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I think in some instances, when women accuse men in their life of "weaponised incompetence," it's when men will purposely do a task badly or say "you do it better than me anyway..." as a way of moving the responsibility back to her. I'm sure it can be frustrating and difficult to navigate without devolving into an argument.
/r/MensRights29/01/26 05:00 PM
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Urgh snore. Didn't realise the biggest issue facing modern men is whether or not they can get their dick wet by the women they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 04:39 PM
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You can still be a good man and a shit partner. You can still be a beautiful awesome woman and a shit partner. Sometimes things don’t work out. So what is your answer to this huge issue you have discovered? Women should wait a statutory amount of time before entering another relationship? Does she have to give the man three more chances before she can leave again? Just feels like posted this vague observation because you to argue with people on Reddit that women are fucking up society and men ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 09:26 AM
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I’m glad you had such a lovely strong mother, honestly she sounds awesome. I guess I would be considered a modern feminist. I don’t hate men. I have empathy for them and their issues. I just think that it’s hard to support the rhetoric around dating and sex because it always seems rooted in men being pissed that they aren’t able to have sex with the women they want.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:43 AM
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This is my thought process when I see people spout red pill misogyny about women being bitches and whores. Don’t they have mothers, sisters, daughters?
/r/PurplePillDebate29/01/26 01:31 AM
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I’ve heard stronger arguments from a fortune cookie.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:57 PM
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Does it get boring to look at random situations and think “hmmmm how can I make this women’s fault?”
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 11:04 PM
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Nah, it was everywhere for most. I didn’t follow mainly because I don’t really care about two rich people beefing in court.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 10:56 PM
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I'm sorry that is your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 05:05 PM
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Okay, whatever works for you. Honestly, that sounds miserable and alienating to me. But if you would prefer to be treated with indifference, I am sure people will oblige.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:43 PM
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Yeh, that's most women's worry too. Erm. Unless I missed something, no one is advocating for vigilante squads of men to hunt sexual offenders. Also, no one is asking you to say "don't rape bro, don't hit bro" because you should learn that as a child. If you don't have morals, that's cool. Just don't get annoyed if others do.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:16 PM
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If the bare minimum is indifference, surely it is fair to ask men to be indifferent to women and not sexually assault/harass them?
/r/PurplePillDebate28/01/26 04:04 PM
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Says who?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 08:00 PM
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The study looks at both men and women equally, so I guess you are arguing that higher bodycounts in men and women indicate a greater chance of cheating, which the author doesn't even claim. But if you want to go by the study, men are more likely to cheat and have more sexual partners compared to women, so I guess the stats are what the stats are.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:55 PM
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I can confidently say that most women don’t feel the need to make him good looking in order to make him a martyr.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:09 PM
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Yeh no. Most likely is the media are tweaking the images for whatever reason. It’s gross af. Doesn’t mean it’s done by/for women.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 01:00 PM
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I mean that people have different expectations/values. Some people think 5 is too many while others wouldn’t see that as an issue. To someone else, 50+ isn’t a big deal. I mean, people can change their priorities. However, completely understandable that that might be a boundary for you and now you know. It just annoys me when people shame others (usually women) if they have a “high body count” as it reinforces the idea that a women’s main value is between her legs, which is just gross. Not sayin…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:52 PM
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Why are you assuming women are the ones posting these edited images?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 12:43 PM
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But isn’t a “body count” subjective? People vary on what they think is a lot. Also I wouldn’t equate “high body count” to infidelity, just because someone can sleep with someone doesn’t mean they will.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:57 AM
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But what if I’m an absolute smoke show?
/r/PurplePillDebate27/01/26 06:54 AM
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Yes of course. People love people for all sorts of reasons. People also use people for all sorts of reasons, which is shitty.
/r/MensRights26/01/26 09:24 PM
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Okay?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 09:50 AM
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lol no. In most of the straight professional porn, if the guy is going down, it’s usually for like 3 seconds with little to no enthusiasm, then she sucks his dick for 45 mins. If you can’t tell the difference between porn produced for men (most of it) and porn produced for women (rare but growing) than you are just clueless.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/26 12:29 AM
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Do you think women are equivalent to children?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 06:57 PM
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No crumbs left
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:28 PM
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I mean you certainly postulated all over this post. I don’t agree with any of your conclusions. I do have a question though, do you think women are mentally or socially equivalent to children or do you just infer it? Your use of examples and explanations seems to imply that belief so I wanted to check.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 05:23 PM
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This post is another example of some men doing everything BUT therapy and self-reflection.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/01/26 03:55 PM
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Bro, just because none of the condom sizes fit you doesn’t mean they need to be banned. Maybe see if you can get some tailor made for you online. Maybe there is a subreddit for it too x
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 09:19 PM
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Well the study includes domestic, partner and family abuse within its statistics and the study later highlights that in cases of domestic abuse homocide, when the victim was male, the majority were older males (male family members - 58%). Hence my question. Again, not dismissing that men are victims of domestic violence. Is that making sense?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/26 08:01 PM
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Why the assumption that the 40% are perpetrated mostly by women? Also, domestic violence is a huge issue and the police and judicial system need to update and review their policies as men feel alienated and unable to speak up and ask for help. Every victim, regardless of gender, should be supported and taken seriously.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/26 05:22 PM
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Men just aren't hiding their second families like they used to, I guess
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:27 PM
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This is such a weird take. And super incorrect. But hey, I don't think you cared about that when you posted this.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/01/26 02:19 PM
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I wasn’t aware this was a popular arguing point from feminists. Has this been a consistent statement from feminists when discussing gender recently? Have people had feminists say this to them on this sub? Genuine question!
/r/MensRights19/01/26 08:38 AM
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I mean it isn’t. They are using a simplistic and emotionally weighted reframing of someone’s honest and balanced explanation to imply they are inherently sexist or something? I’m not quite sure. I think a better and more relevant question would have been to ask “if you had consistently negative and traumatic experiences with a certain race or nationality, could this mindset be seen as racist?” But no, they (and you I guess?) want to conflate a women saying she is cautious around men due to previ…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:46 PM
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So by this metric, most feminists hate men? So feminists who don't hate men personally, automatically hate men by association because they are not explicitly condemning the outspoken man haters amongst them? It feels like you are holding feminists and men's rights advocates to very different moral standards.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 06:00 PM
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Ahh okay, thank you for clarifying. Well, that sounds like an awful lot of people must hate men, then. I will just have to disagree with you on that. That hasn't been my experience, but I understand that you have your own.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:59 PM
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So you think all men hate women and all women hate men?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:44 PM
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Sure, some feminists probably hate men as a group; some men also hate women. I don't think that is a controversial take?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:42 PM
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I think the caution being discussed here is the product of women's personal individual experiences with men throughout their lives. This question feels really odd and not really relevant to the discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/01/26 04:29 PM
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Yehh…..I agree. All paedophiles are bad, regardless of gender.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/26 11:53 PM
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Most paedophiles are women? Haven’t heard that one before. Is this your opinion or has there been studies into this?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates15/01/26 11:32 PM
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Gosh, your argument is quite impressive. To accuse women of playing the victim and blaming men, while at the same time framing men as victims and blaming women. Bravo 🎖️
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:11 PM
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Yes, many people who avoid self-awareness and accountability find it easier to blame an entire group of people for their problems rather than do the work of personal development.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 11:01 PM
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I mean, I would still think it’s weird for a 4 year old but that’s just me. For sure, your version is alarming. And as I said, I’m not disagreeing or arguing against the claim that women are infantilised. Girl dinner just isn’t the first example that comes to mind, or the second. Now I really fancy some grapes…
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:41 PM
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Yeh, I’d be worried if someone was eating four grapes, butter and a glass of wine as a meal. It is giving depressed girl dinner.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:25 PM
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Okay, sure. In some cases it can be an indicator that someone is struggling but I wouldn’t say everyone who has had “girl dinner” is depressed. They aren’t having it every day. And if they are, there is probably a bigger issue at play that needs to be addressed. Clearly we have two completely different interpretations of the trend. I’m not arguing that women aren’t infantilised, I agree. I just felt like it was random example to use, that’s all.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 10:14 PM
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You’ve clearly never had a great “girl dinner.” TBH I’m not sure how it “infantilises” women as I see it more as a “here are my fav snacks compiled into a random charcuterie-style dinner cos I’m tired but need to eat.”
/r/PurplePillDebate15/01/26 09:56 PM
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I disagree with the premise that feminist study is inherently biased. Its purpose isn't to claim that 'all women were oppressed by all men,' but rather to analyze the legal and social structures that historically restricted women’s agency. Analysing a system that disadvantaged women doesn't require arguing that every woman had it harder than every man. In most academic studies, men aren’t excluded or vilified; they simply aren't the “main character”. You can study one group’s experiences without…
/r/MensRights15/01/26 10:39 AM
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Me and other women I know have compassion for men and the men in their life. They care about men’s mental health and want to support them.
/r/MensRights15/01/26 01:43 AM
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Sweet. I’m glad he’ll have some friends after I ruin his life 🧚‍♀️
/r/MensRights14/01/26 08:18 PM
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Damn, better let my fiancé know.
/r/MensRights14/01/26 06:58 PM
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I agree that most people historically faced constraints, and men certainly experienced pressures too. The issue isn’t denying that, it’s when people claim feminist study “skews understanding” simply because it focuses on women’s experiences. There are many studies on men’s experiences, and I wouldn’t question their validity just because they focus on men. Feminist scholarship doesn’t say men had it easy; it examines how laws, institutions, and social norms specifically limited women’s opportunit…
/r/MensRights14/01/26 03:03 PM
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I’m fine with my understanding of history, and I’m open to changing it if I see convincing arguments. But telling someone to “relearn history” because you disagree with their conclusions isn’t a useful response. How do you think historical study should be done? Historians have to ask specific questions to investigate the past. If you think those questions should be framed differently, what would that look like? We’re talking past each other. I’m not saying other factors should be ignored; I’m sa…
/r/MensRights14/01/26 12:54 PM
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Gosh that was exhausting to read. The mental gymnastics was impressive so hats off to you. If the study is relevant and people what to know, why not? Do I think the most pressing question amongst historians is why dinosaurs weren’t vegan, no. So not really a helpful hypothetical. A better one might be maybe would I support the study to explore how men have been victimised by the feminist movement? And the answer is yes.
/r/MensRights14/01/26 12:52 AM
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I’m going to have to agree to disagree there. Not sure how you propose historical study should be conducted if not by looking at a specific area within applicable contexts such as gender or race.
/r/MensRights14/01/26 12:15 AM
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Oh I agree that class is very much a huge factor, if not one of the biggest. But to say that it was the only one seems disingenuous. And to ignore the fact that those in power within the class system were usually rich privileged men feels like a big oversight.
/r/MensRights13/01/26 11:38 PM
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What bias do I have exactly? And I don’t think it’s a good argument to take my words, add in some new ones and be like “look, you’re actually a racist”. This isn’t scrabble so I apologise for not applauding such a superficial comeback. I didn’t “claim” anything, he literally did take me out of context? Clearly we disagree on the effectiveness of his argument however.
/r/MensRights13/01/26 11:31 PM
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I didn’t know that, sounds interesting. I’ll have to look it up. I’m not here arguing that men didn’t face all sorts of horrors, sometimes at the hands of women throughout history and to this day. I’m just here asking questions because I hadn’t heard this POV before. Also, why the comparison between racism and sexism? They intersect a lot when we look at history but they are two different frameworks with their own unique contexts.
/r/MensRights13/01/26 11:13 PM
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Not really sure removing context from my comment and adding something else for shock value really helps a discussion but pop off queen
/r/MensRights13/01/26 10:21 PM
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No, I just develop my opinions through study, conversation and personal experiences. Kind of rude to assume that because I don’t agree with you, I must therefore be a mindless sheep to the feminist agenda? Okay, so just disregarding/rejecting the work of feminist study over the last 50 years? What about the history books before that, would that be considered a more realistic interpretation or is the argument that we need to refresh study and study on the idea that men and women were biologically…
/r/MensRights13/01/26 10:18 PM
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Don’t really feel like playing the oppression olympics with you, thanks though. I’m not denying that men had a shit go of it, and there are multiple factors at play like race, class etc. I’m just trying to understand the complete rejection of understanding history through gender.
/r/MensRights13/01/26 09:47 PM
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Thanks for the feedback.
/r/MensRights13/01/26 09:40 PM
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Ohh okay, my bad I didn’t read that correctly. I think it’s happening now no? Not every piece of historical study is looked at through the lens of gender. There are studies published everyday looking at history through the lens of race, religion, class, economic structure etc. Sorry to keep asking for clarification as I don’t want to make assumptions about your stance and get it wrong. What do you mean by “all qualities are distributed equally”?
/r/MensRights13/01/26 09:21 PM
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Thanks for the link. I had a read through. I think I’m just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one, thanks for the discussion :)
/r/MensRights13/01/26 09:13 PM
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I think there is a difference between being critical of men’s behaviour and actions versus hating any person with a penis just because it’s trendy. But I understand that’s your experience so who am I to question or challenge it. I will just say that I have read feminist writers and historians, and they don’t read to me as man hating. Nor do I learn “hatred” of men through their study.
/r/MensRights13/01/26 08:07 PM
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I used “subjugate” because it best describes my interpretation of male/female social dynamic throughout history (albeit very generalised which I don’t like doing). I can use repressed or confine in its place. What part of history is being ignored in place of feminist study? Are you questioning the presence of women in music, science, medicine etc? Or that they just aren’t important?
/r/MensRights13/01/26 08:01 PM
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When is it used to justify hating men? I don’t think I’ve ever seen it but that could just be me.
/r/MensRights13/01/26 07:51 PM
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Okay, I’ll concede to the use of “sex based labour divisions” for this and that we shouldn’t apply modern values to ancient history. But what about modern history? Are you saying that feminist study isn’t relevant at all? At what point in history do you accept that men did intentional bar women from access to higher education, employment opportunities, financial independence?
/r/MensRights13/01/26 07:50 PM
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Because it’s a correct use of the word? I can use another one if you don’t like it. That seems like a generalisation. Feminist study analyses history through the gendered lens to understand women’s roles in society. I don’t see a problem with learning about women in male dominated fields or women previously ignored by their cohort because they didn’t conform to what society expected.
/r/MensRights13/01/26 07:38 PM
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While loaded I still think word choice is appropriate for this discussion. Can you offer a better one? I’m open to suggestions. Honestly, I’m just trying to understand your point of view. Are you critical of feminist theory in the context of historical study or feminism in general? That there shouldn’t be feminist study because it’s inherently incorrect due to it assuming that men purposely treated women as not equal?
/r/MensRights13/01/26 07:30 PM
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Wait, so the argument is men didn’t “purposefully” subjugate women throughout history, it was just a natural byproduct of survival? So therefore it shouldn’t be criticised or analysed through different perspectives?
/r/MensRights13/01/26 07:07 PM
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