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| 124 | Do women downplay the overwhelming advantages that the desire gap gives them? | Debate | Upset_Material_3372 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/04/24 09:23 PM |
| 26 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men. | Debate | Upset_Material_3372 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 09:41 AM |
| 26 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single. | Debate | Upset_Material_3372 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 08:56 PM |
| 22 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to? | Discussion | Upset_Material_3372 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 09:45 PM |
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| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Deflection from what? you don’t even realize what I’m saying or what reality is so you would be able to tell either way. You literally believe something without having the capacity do understand anything. Think on it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 08:38 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.You don’t seem to have the reading comprehension to even understand what I’m saying. Much less the ability to understand what’s happening around you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Apparently you need to just work on the re reading part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Re read what you just wrote and at least try to understand how that would be both an unreasonable and inadequate way to prove your point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Reality isn’t what you want it to be sorry. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.This conclusion would simply come from the majority of data showing that the current dating landscape is trending in a way that is stacked against men and both my own and majority of the men I knows experiences lining up with that. Ok then, take care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.You don’t know what reality it that has been made evident. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 07:10 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Even if your reality showed this as truth you have shown that you wouldn’t have the capacity to realize it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 05:34 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Yes, about 40 percent. In line with reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 05:21 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.A comparison to random chance is in no way similar to the choices women make. A trip to a mall or amusement park will show you nothing but what you want to see. And you just don’t have the capacity to begin to understand that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 04:32 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.You don’t understand math well enough if you think it’s impossible. Period. Were you able to actually look around at any macro level you would see it as reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 03:44 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Aside from the obvious self evidence (obviously not seen by women) aside from a few outliers including age ranges not indicative of a change or trying to disprove it, the majority of data still shows it trending much worse for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 03:41 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Ha! nice report, I think we are done here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 03:31 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.None of which showing it’s impossible. The only way the definitions could cause this is if we don’t define most of those women as dating but instead just because passed around by those men and thinking they are dating, but that is no less unbalanced. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 05:28 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.In a place unbelieved by you evidently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 05:19 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.And you continue to believe that as you have shown. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 04:01 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.You will see, the next surveys to come out will continue to show the same direction for men then you can choose to believe it or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 02:53 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.You believe you do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 02:48 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.You don’t expect reality so how can that help? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 02:41 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.And those would be incorrect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 02:05 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.No it doesn’t have to be 40 percent the smallest portion of men could be dating 2+ women at a time while the next dates 1+ women at a time and then the last portion of that 36% is dating 1 at a time leaving somewhere around 5% of women left who may be dating each other or significantly older. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 01:37 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Simply not reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 01:32 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.This isn’t complicated. You are either dating a guy who is dating other women or you’re single. Think about that. You have no idea. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 12:45 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.None of this changes the fact that twice as many women are partnered than men in a demographic indicative of a trend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 12:42 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.The majority of all stats regarding relationships and sex show men being able to less and less regardless of a few outliers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 12:23 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.99.6%, 78%, and 94% aren’t true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.So do you think your 12% insignificant than? Especially compared to women only becoming more single by 2%. There is no world where that isn’t totally unbalanced regardless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 12:12 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.How would I know where they are? They are the best 34% in the woman’s area. You obviously don’t have the capacity to understand this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/08/24 12:06 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I don’t have to add them up the data already has. Just because you can’t understand how it adds up doesn’t make it untrue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 11:45 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.When it isn’t the overwhelming majority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.What I mean was that the numbers continue to worsen for men by age group not worsen as they age, as in stays lower longer than previous men. I mean there is already almost a 20% increase in men who are single from the previous pew singleness study that isn’t exactly insignificant. My post talked specifically references partnering not sex. And that 95% of men still runs on the assumption that it will go the same way which is already very unlikely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.That’s fine you don’t have to believe the numbers if you don’t want to but that doesn’t change the result. I’m not going to go out of my way to show someone who has proven they will not believe any data they don’t like. The data does make sense just not in the way YOU want it to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 11:05 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.You’d have to consider that these studies assume that the same will be true for the same men as they get older despite the numbers continually worsening for them compared to past dating environments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 10:58 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.You are simply wrong. Along with your data. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Except they don’t | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Yes, that’s what the data shows. Having sex 1 time in a year wouldn’t exclusively mean that those men are in a relationship. You can theorize all you want the result is that twice as many men remain single compared to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 09:42 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.It doesn’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 09:11 PM |
| – | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.So you only see exclusively abusive men seeking relationships? If so that’s quite a lot of abusive men the vast majority of men are seeking relationships and I don’t think they are all abusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 09:10 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.It does, but that doesn’t seem to relate to what you are saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Yeah, I’m sure you think it matters | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 08:09 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Not with 64% of men. Whether they are dating the same men or literal aliens from space the result on men is the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 08:08 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I’m not even sure what you are talking about anymore, the facts are that 63% of men are single vs 34% all else is Irrelevant regardless of your opinion or speculation on the matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 07:43 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I’m sure you think so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 07:38 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.They aren’t with anyone. That’s what it immutably shows, the viability of how is less clear but at the very least a large portion of relationships must not be 1 to 1. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Virginity rates in men have been rising higher then women’s for a while, while you may say women’s are rising too but that is also the natural result of refusing all but a small portion, waiting until older also not being a good excuse for the same reasons of the singleness study. 2004 would be far too old yes, too much has changed for the worst for men since then, every new study on relationships continues to trend worse for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 07:34 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Yeah, I mean as they should? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 05:48 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.That’s fine but let’s be more honest widely about that. Women need men to be entirely better than themselves in order to be open to them, that’s entirely fine as long as we make it societally clear. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 05:44 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.At the most basic level fairness in this context would be ability to be involved at all. What subjective preferences? Women are choosing to be with the few men they are attracted to because the natural necessity to partner is now being taken care of for them making it unbalanced. It doesn’t need to be balanced, like I have made very clear it is now both morally wrong and completely in achievable, but to not acknowledge it as being unbalanced is very simply not reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 05:39 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Dating older men being a little high and lesbians relationships being a few points higher aside it probably is something fairly close to this. But the implications of this are that women only consider 30% of men good enough in their age bracket keeping in mind that 30% of men shrinks with every subsequent survey. Sharing men doesn’t have to happen at the same time either it can also mean it’s those same 30% of men doing all the dating not necessarily at the same time. Only 30% may not only be me… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 05:32 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I’m sure it’s possible but nothing indicates that is what is happening and is speculation on your part. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 05:01 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Would men having to be significantly better than women, like what it would be if all men right now improved, be more fair to you? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/08/24 04:59 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Was that what you meant in the beginning that there was around 30% of men that were still able to get some? If so then yeah that’d be correct. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 10:38 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.The reason it’s a prerequisite for fairness is that naturally women would have needed to partner to survive or at the very least be far better off. So when that gets removed you will be left with an unbalanced partnering environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 10:15 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.The most likely explanation I can think of, ignoring “well everyone is just lying.” Because if that’s true there is no point in looking at any numbers, is that the women are actively in situationships with the 30% of men unless there are significantly more women dating other women than we have numbers on. If you don’t want to believe it that’s fine I don’t expect you to change your mind even when faced with the numbers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 10:13 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.That’s what the numbers say the only possible conclusions being they are collectively dating the men in the 30% or are lying. ? Did I not just send the graph??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I’m sorry I’m not sure what you are trying to say here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 09:54 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Do you think women are just as likely to leave their room mate as their date? There is no female equivalent to an incel that is male exclusive even if you consider women that are crippled or deformed. So you believe there are no relationships that don’t have one sided love even ones that last? I’m not sure that is true. Finding other guys better or not you still needed to find certain traits to facilitate that connection/attraction at all otherwise you’d be developing that with everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 09:51 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I’m not saying anomalies never happen people do sometimes win the lottery or are born with extra fingers but those things aren’t the norm. But even for those anomalous men that try to date up in desirability they will still ABSOLUTELY be attracted to their equal in desirability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 09:44 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.In this study as detailed on the bottom single was defined as: not married, living with a partner or in a committed relationship. If you want to say people are just lying about being in relationships or not then sure but that’s a LOT of people lying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Because there is a majority of women actively dating with a minority of men. Women as a group are also not improving in desirability. Sure maybe women should rate them 5/10 but that’d be an improvement from how they rate them now, they should also more importantly be rating other women a 5/10. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 09:25 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Looks is certainly a big part of it but let’s not sit here and pretend women don’t find men that are tall, rich, extremely charismatic, intelligent, etc. attractive, those things absolutely to change a man’s desirability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 09:19 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.How would you keep a female roommate in some way committed to staying with me and not partnering with anyone else? Because that is part of the need. Do you not consider one of the many relationships in the world that are sexless to be real? Simply think of the traits that any guy you have been attracted to and all of the common ones are your list of requirements for attraction and compatibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 09:09 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Whatever you say, you’d argue the sky is green, an apple is an orange, and 1+1 = 3 before you consider anything outside of your view, all while claiming projection id imagine. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.There are plenty of people who’s with a partner in a touch less sexless relationship. I just need someone to exist in that spot and as a straight man she would need to be female. To act like that “chemistry/spark/butterflies/attraction” doesn’t require a great many of the same things other women require to be possible couldn’t be further from the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 08:53 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.If you go back and look I always refer to the word “desirable” it was you who made it looks focused. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.If that roommate isn’t limited to female and in some way committed to staying with me and not partnering with anyone else then sure that’s fine. Do you not understand that while women may need a great many things out of a relationship to even consider it men may not? Is it that hard to even comprehend not having a massive list of check marks needing to be checked? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 08:42 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.…you do realize women are equally overweight and in fact in many cases more so than men correct? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 08:37 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.https://preview.redd.it/kdf2dc4yevkd1.jpeg?width=620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=45f5213e69b29dd48aea34d3ea553837aef29a68 | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Yes, yes I’m sure it’s impossible for you to be wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 08:31 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.For your definition. But men simply require less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 08:15 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.No because if all men did that women would just rise their standards again to filter them out once more because it isn’t men at all certain level that women consider “bettering” but men a certain level above other men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 08:14 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Like I said if that makes you feel better go for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I wish it weren’t this way but unfortunately that’s just the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.You do realize that’s the actual numbers right? In 18-29 year olds 70% of women are partnered wile only around 30% of men are, and considering the average age gap not being enough to make up this difference while men in the next age bracket are also single at a higher rate than women, the only time you see that change is after twice as many men have died. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.So no you don’t have the desire to partner just to partner you have the desire to partner in the specific way you want. If you were a man you’d understand and you too would have the desire to partner without conditions. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 08:07 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.The average age gap isn’t big enough to make up that massive difference of twice as many and in the next age bracket men are still less partnered. if age gaps were the reason you’d see a point where women were more single at an older age but the only time you see that is after men are twice as likely to have died already. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 08:04 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Why is a straight person attracted to the opposite gender, it isn’t just about sex. It isn’t about what they can provide for you (at least not for men). I’m sure you don’t you don’t have that innate desire to partner like men do. I’m not sure what you aren’t getting men desire women. That’s it not just sex from them, not just labor from them, and yes they do want things like love and sex but that doesn’t mean they don’t have the desire to partner without those things. The reason you don’t unders… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 01:12 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.When it actually stops happening but it only seems to get worse year after year as it continues to trend downward. Only the data that try’s to include previous generations as if indicative of the current environment. It does make sense to show it’s getting worse for men though. Well somehow 70% of women are dating around 30% of men, I guess more than half the women could be lying that they are in a relationship that’s technically possible (or men lying that they aren’t?). I would need to see men… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 12:43 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.That is still entirely better than always being excluded never to have a chance. Yes I very much understand the no sex part. Do you understand that the men who are excluded by women don’t get to experience that anyway? That would still be her choice and she could always just find someone else. It isn’t men’s choice to be forced to have the need to partner so strong it’d maybe only be second to the desire to live itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 12:29 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.It makes a difference because that is simply what we as men are forced to desiring biologically. You might as well just tell someone to choose to be gay, that isn’t just a choice a man can make. The difference is simply that it is what men are forced to desire, that’s the whole point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 12:16 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.When did I claim women don’t want partners? I explained how women don’t have the built in need to partner rather the desire to partner with very desirable men as evidenced by only partnering with 30% of them. Well considering less are even able to partner at all compared to the generations included in that majority that had children, that is a pretty big requirement for being able to do so… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 12:12 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.It’s only not universal because not all men are completely excluded and even then there are anomalies for everything. Proof is that 99.9% of men that are excluded will think this way. Obviously very desirable guys who can have an average woman won’t say the same. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 12:07 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I thought you were talking about someone setting for me? If she were setting with me it’d still be her choice. This is the difference that seems to keep popping up men’s desire to partner doesn’t even require anything out of it, while women seem to have no such similarity. Now obviously a guy who could will still rather have what he wants but in the event he can’t, being single is still much worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 12:03 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Your belief in it is not a prerequisite for it to be true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 11:51 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.The alternative is less than no love. I would even need the sex involved at all like I said the alternative doesn’t include it either. No we just wouldn’t have sex in this scenario why would I force this hypothetical woman to do that? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 11:50 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Do you think most men are abusive leeches? Because those 70% of women that are partnering are only doing so with around 30% of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 11:48 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.The other person themselves is that thing. It would be pretty impressive if someone was able to split into two or maybe develop a second personality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 11:44 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.You can say that about men infinitely upping their game but that doesn’t help the group as women’s standards is based on the top so if all men upped their game we’d be in the exact same position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 11:41 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.It is biology that says so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 11:40 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.For myself personally being settled for is absolutely better in every way compared to singleness no love or sex needed even ever as those thing wouldn’t be possible in the alternative anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 11:39 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Self assessment in looks aside you’d also have to take other factors into account for desirability as a whole when partnering, unless you think that looks is the only portion? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 11:37 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.It is, that’s exactly why external factors would be needed to even approach a fair dating dynamic although obviously no longer applicable or possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 09:33 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Yeah that’s exactly why women as a group have decided that they will only date men that are better than most and men will be forced to comply given men’s need to partner being stronger than their want to get their perfect partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 06:37 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Yes even this study itself address the fact that men who rate themselves more attractive rate everyone else more attractive as well so they don’t overrate themselves but overrate EVERYONE. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 06:35 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Ah my bad yeah every woman is somehow the most desirable perfect goddess that deserves literally everything she could want in the exact way she wants it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 06:30 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.You would argue that the sky is in fact green and an apple is actually an orange you even consider anything else all while crying projection so there is little point in putting much effort in for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 06:24 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.You do realize that men in the same age range of 18-29 are single at a rate of 63% (from the newer version of that study) all the while age difference remained too low to not make a difference, this actually shows men at the top are accommodating most women and it seems to be getting worse. The older demographics you include the less important the data becomes because you are including women who partnered/were influenced by a totally different dating environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 06:18 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.It’s from the pew research data the one that also shows women dating at almost 70%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 06:11 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Not my crystal medal D: | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 06:08 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I know that you don’t believe it but that isn’t a prerequisite for it to be true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 06:06 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Whatever makes you feel better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Well since only 30% and dropping of men are able to partner than they’d have to be, or there aren’t truly that many men having sex it’s one or the other. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 01:57 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.As I specifically stated I don’t advocate for any of this or think it is possible or viable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 01:55 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.That’s why it can’t happen anymore and therefore won’t be fair because aside from some extreme societal collapse like you say those reasons would now be forced. I don’t know since i have been very clear I don’t want them implemented. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 01:49 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Well it’s women that think they are above average not men that think women think they are. You can feel it’s like any way you want and maybe it truly is for you specifically I don’t know, in fact I specifically stated why it’s likely that women don’t agree thinking they are partnering equivalently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/08/24 01:43 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.No natural reasons for the need to partner by external forces isn’t punishment. You wouldn’t morally it only existed when society wasn’t advanced enough to expedite those needs for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:54 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.For your stats to be anywhere close to try they’d have to be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:51 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.For points 1 and 3 96% of women overrate themselves so it would only make sense they’d only be open to their perceived equals. And for point 2 you can literally not even come close to even seeing it unless you are forced to be single specifically as a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:49 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Why are you so obsessed with sex? I didn’t realize my post was about sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Not making my statement any less true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:42 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.For those reasons is exactly why the external reasons for partnering is required to approach a fair dating environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:39 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Obviously women will make their own, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t incorrect. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:36 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.You’re judging him however you want but that doesn’t make it the truth in either direction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:34 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Which women are only open to finding in their homogeneous view of a perfect partner. Less than the drain of being single specifically as a man. Women are only interested in men doing a certain direction regardless of her own. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:31 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.In the group indicative of a trend only 30% of men are able to partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:28 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Men’s needs, as I have said are exist in them by default and are not born out of external forces. Yeah I don’t expect you to understand why it’s fair/unfair. If some alien race of only women came to earth tomorrow and to men were entirely better than women in almost every way, while being far more attracted to men, in the confines of dating, this would in fact be unfair to women objectively the advancement of society and the state has had similar effects to men in the confines of dating where li… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:27 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Not more than men and certainly not enough to justify marriage to a person better than you in every way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:19 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Only if their desirability was around the same, you seem to be caught up on looks if you only consider that I can see how you could have this misconception. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Not true at all women both under rate men and over rate women, 96% of women think themselves above average, men rate women on a bell curve while women rate men on a downward slope which is an impossible to be true unnatural distribution, and men who rate themselves high rate everyone high meaning they don’t overrate themselves their scale is just higher. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:14 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.You aren’t worth it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Yes that’s why it’s not intentional. Women are picker because their desire revolves around picking the best possible genes, essentially humans natural eugenicists. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:07 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Under 30% of men are able to partner. All other data is skewed by older dating environments. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:04 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.As you will continue to believe. I’m glad you are fortunate enough to have this view, however untrue it is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:03 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I don’t expect you to understand you only could if that was your existence. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:01 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Again it isn’t about “punishing” women for not pairing up it’s about them needing external factors to even approach an even playing field and again it’s no longer even viable. It’s like this men have the baked in innate desire to partner while women have the need to partner due to external factors but as society advances women’s need to partner will vanish as those needs will be taken care of societally, by men she doesn’t need to partner with or even interact with anymore, all the while men’s s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:59 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Listen im glad you and/or the people around you mutually like each other but not everyone, or even most, are so lucky. This misconception, born out of the bias of meaning fortunate, is why people couldn’t understand this position. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:54 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Absolutely trying to enjoy the best you can even with a horrible existence is great, with that being said, Do you not think that some people here enjoy being here? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:51 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Orbiters has little to do with this a woman can have orbiters that are entirely better than her and she could still not find them good enough. I’m not what your comparison is supposed to be showing as it is still entirely possible to be in line with my statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:48 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Yes, with the caveat that in order to be positive to her a man must be entirely better than most men and herself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I’m sorry but just because you think they have no chance doesn’t mean they anything contrary to my statement. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:43 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.But define the wrong relationship? Holding out for your absolute perfect idea of a partner is not avoiding wrong relationships because that IS truly what most women mean be “bettering” their life’s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.That doesn’t mean they are abusive in some way, and this only happens because women have made is so men have extremely few options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.And you also know less than a tiny fraction of men, not only that but are less likely to associate with one that is deemed an exclusion by women. You could only understand were you forced to be not just single but single as a man. The reason is isn’t fair is our needs to partner come from different reasons and after a certain point of advancement women’s need to will be taken care of my society, by men she doesn’t need to partner with or even interact with, while men’s which is baked into his in… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:36 PM |
| 3 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Yeah, that pretty much sums it up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:31 PM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Men’s desire to partner is far more common they only men who desire that are the ones who are at the very pinnacle and are spoiled by choice in a similar, but lesser extent, way that women are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:29 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Hence outside factor needing to be present. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:27 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I’m not sure what any of that has to do with my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:26 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Kinda like they are trending to do now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.…..yeah they do spam ALL WOMEN not just the beautiful ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:24 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Most people would be skewed in a way no longer indicative of the trend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:23 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Ok, glad I could help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:21 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Yeah they usually can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:20 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Not anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:19 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.It’s fair because the only way women even get away with such things is because the need for men has been taken care of by men that they no longer need to partner with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:18 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.That is a common misconception most men pursue women because they like being partnered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:17 PM |
| 0 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.There is nothing to help this cause it is the inevitable consequence of human advancement. There is no helping it and any effort to try and change things would be fruitless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:15 PM |
| 0 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Only if you include older women involved in or influenced by past dating environments is this true, and men that are better than most CAN actually accommodate the having kids part for most women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:11 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.You can certainly lose a lot for being single, your life even, we don’t even need to jump to bad relationships although I suspect women consider anything but their perfect partner a “bad” one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:07 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Only if you include something extremely drastic and detrimental like a lobotomy or some other extremely mentally destroying procedure. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:04 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.The need to be partnered, I understand you may not have that but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. How would you meet a need that requires another group that doesn’t want you to meet it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 10:02 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Due to the overwhelming amount of women that only partner significantly up, it’s no surprise that anyone dating/marrying someone so far up would have to give more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:29 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Only the ones who are desirable enough to attain them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:27 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.A perception from women in the opposite direction is the result of both projection and a lack of self awareness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:27 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I’m sure some men can find some happiness or at the very least distraction in a great many things but it would be completely impossible to eliminate the need to partner as an innate top priority. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:24 AM |
| 3 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.The problem is it’s women’s perceived idea of “better” which to them only includes a narrow few. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:19 AM |
| 3 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.No because women require a partner that is better than most in order to intentionally filter out genetics and in the event that better than most guy is unable stay single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:18 AM |
| 0 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.If only…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 11:15 AM |
| 0 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Good luck with your phone I guess..? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 09:42 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I think women would still choose to be in situationships with the top men or being single over another average person like herself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 09:40 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Now consider the chance to end up associating with one of those 40 million women at all…… the chance is still 1%……. And that isn’t even considering things like language and location that drastically reduces the number. If there is nothing fair about forced partnerships than there is also nothing fair about forced loneliness, but I do agree that forced partnerships is wrong that’s why I’m not advocating for any of this and that going forward dating will always be stacked against men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 09:38 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.? I’m not sure what you are referring to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 09:27 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Any and all traits. A man certainly needs more than to not be a fat slob to be in any way physically attractive to a woman, women’s standards for physical attraction is far too narrow for a simply not overweight guy to even move the needle. Social skills play a part but it’s a total misconception that every man could improve them to a level that matters and is closely tied to your inherent personality than people realize, so while it will help, it too won’t be able to move the needle for a lot o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 09:26 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.It is interacting with people and seeing relationships in real life that ENFORCE these truths. Although I can see why women are unable to see it as their dating world is entirely different so they could never know what it’s actually like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 07:39 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Right now it’s also below half of men being able to partner and dropping and even then at least as far back as you were talking it was everyone suffering men and women not just the men. Men also all died in conflicts very young. 4 billion women that where 99% of them have the same preference of hold out for the best and exclude the rest. Hence why an outside factor would be required to even make it close to fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 07:36 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.This is certainly a factor but there is also the fact that women’s entire biological drive to partner is based on getting the best or none at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 07:23 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.No, you, didn’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 07:13 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Men only need to know she is a woman to tell that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 07:08 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Essentially men need and except far less from women than the reverse while having a large enough individually range to cover all women. I can’t really break it down more than that sorry if you don’t get it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 07:07 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Not 1% obviously but in order to be considered “bettering” for women you must be better at the very least than all other men she sees and posses traits impossible to obtain through effort alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 07:04 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Incorrect, women without an external need to partner will hold out for a guy that is very desirable while excluding all other men, And this is what women consider to be “bettering” their life’s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 06:59 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.There is nothing morally wrong with it at all but the fact that but to ignore the fact that women are only exclusively open to them excluding a large portion of men is simply incorrect. You’d be right if is wasn’t almost half of men that are excluded completely and even that is generous now days. Men’s standard are ALWAYS in line with their options so if a man has no options his standards will always be nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 06:57 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Ahh but the catch is that they’ll only be about her own desirability or just a bit higher so she won’t see him as a viable option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 06:45 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Says most men. The point is a more equal dating environment would require this but it isn’t viable, therefore the best thing to do is just widely acknowledge it being stack heavily against men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 06:37 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.All of those things would pale in comparison to being unable to partner your entire life as a man. That’s why it is more fair than what we’d have now even if it is both men and women suffering instead of just men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 06:34 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.That would mean they’d not need some that is even their type to partner and I don’t see that very often if ever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 06:15 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.That isn’t how that works. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 06:10 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Because men have that desire biologically while women have the desire to explicitly exclude men that aren’t a certain caliber above most. It was more fair when both men and women had the need to instead of now with just men. The thing is men’s desire to partner is one of the most import instincts of humanity we wouldn’t be here without it and it still exists to save us should we need it to, although unlikely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 06:05 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I’m sure it would help but then you’d just have those women staying single instead of choosing situationships with men at the top. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 05:46 AM |
| 0 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.But you’d be choosing it, the world right now men are forced to be regardless of how much effort they put it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 05:44 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Men are excluded while women are aren’t not because men are worse partners but because men don’t need someone who is better than most in order for them to be considered bare minimum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 05:42 AM |
| 0 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Why are you here then? These things are all great to help mitigate being excluded yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 05:39 AM |
| 0 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I’m not sure why you bring up sex, men have the need to partner. Sex not even needed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 05:38 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Not when women don’t like men that aren’t better than most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 05:27 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.What about it? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 05:27 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Men’s need to partner is ingrained naturally so when society gets to a point where women no longer need the things they naturally would from men that leaves only men with that desire. (The desire to just partner not to hold out for the best) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 05:04 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Most men are partnered with women that they don’t think are particularly better than most as opposed to women who need that in order to feel her partner is “bettering” her life if women’s idea of bettering didn’t exclusively include only a small group of men than that’d be a different story. Essentially men as a whole can feel their lives are bettered by all types of women while the same cannot be said in reverse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 05:00 AM |
| -1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Because it is the most important imperative for men second only in some cases to life itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 04:52 AM |
| 3 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.No it would just be redistribution of people with worse lives to be more even between men and women instead of more men. In reality there is no solution anymore since we can’t go back to having enough external factors for women to pair up with most men. Best we can do is simply widely acknowledge it’s stacked against men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 04:51 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.It depends I think most men are in relationships with women they don’t particularly like more than another but I don’t think that makes their lives worse like women seem to think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 04:40 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Men don’t and never have chased “beauty queens?” Men’s standards are always based on their opinions and always include their equals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 04:31 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Men are done so biologically this is fine but only when outside factors (that don’t need to be intentional or caused by people) incline women so as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 04:29 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Men can’t just change the fact that not all of us can believe above average enough for women to consider them “bettering” their life’s. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 04:19 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.What about the many men that don’t just want sex? It’s usually the men at the top that only want that from average or under women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 04:17 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.So would you rather partner with someone who is middle of the road not your ideal but not a negative, or stay single? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 04:15 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Being a man is what forces them. It would be like saying what forces women to have a period. Because men are still men. Women needed reasons outside of desire to not stay single holding out for a certain caliber of men regardless of her own, while the previous needs being taken care of societally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 04:06 AM |
| 7 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.You can only make their lives so much better as for men the desire to partner is immutably innate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 03:55 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.The only option for it to be fair yes, which is why I said I don’t think it can or should be anymore. They certainly should be taught not to expect it at all anymore, but this will do absolutely nothing to help men’s much higher need to pair up. Women are more content being they now no longer need to and can fulfill their desire to eliminate a large portion of men especially from the gene pool, knowingly or not. Because men’s need and desire to partner wasn’t from outside factors but much higher… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 03:50 AM |
| -4 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Because part of what made it fair in the past was that while men had the desire to partner women had external reasons to so without that it will be thrown out of balance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 03:43 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Because if women no longer have outside influence s to pair up you are left with only men having them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 03:38 AM |
| 1 | CMV: The women on Bear Grylls' The Island would have created a better place to live than the males' islandNo they did the opposite of what you claimed those on YouTube did and tried to cut it and comment in a way that made them look better. But the fact was that they just didn’t preform well enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 03:06 AM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Even if women find it a nightmare to be with most men, men find it a nightmare to be alone so it would still be more even between men and women despite being the same number of people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 03:04 AM |
| 0 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Yes, but only if you are a man will this exclude you completely from all women. You can also not have enough positive traits as a man even if you have no negative and still be excluded, there are quite a few men that if they were the best they could be wouldn’t be good enough for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 02:47 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.The problem is that there is supposed to be need to partner between both, aside from pure attraction, men have that built in and women’s would come from outside things like protection, provision etc. but now that most women don’t need that from a partner it’s one sided with men still having theirs built in and women getting it without a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 02:42 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Again I’m explicitly not advocating for any of this. It would be about the same in terms of people with worse life’s it would just be more evenly spread out between men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 02:29 AM |
| 5 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.No not unliked by all men like the reverse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 01:54 AM |
| 4 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.This is a common misconception, the actual difference is that men just need less from their partners in all aspects, just having one at all being a plus for most of us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 12:30 AM |
| 3 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.It would be fair because men and women would have the same base need to partner instead of just men having that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 12:23 AM |
| -3 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.No they are wired to exclusively be in a relationship for a smaller group of men they deem good enough and in the event they can’t find one be single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/08/24 12:15 AM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Should you not have the option to participate it will always be there in the back of your mind, save for a few moments of distraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 11:56 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.No I don’t offer a solution, I’m not saying that it needs to be people that force women to partner it could be outside factors all the same. The reason it makes things unbalanced is men are naturally forced to want to partner with women while women are naturally forced to exclude men given no longer having the need to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 11:53 PM |
| -2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Im not talking about fairness in freedom but fairness in the dating environment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 11:32 PM |
| 4 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Not necessarily, that’s why I explained I’m not advocating it should be fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 11:30 PM |
| 4 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I explicitly explained that I’m not advocating for this, just that it’s a prerequisite for women to not have an entirely dominant position in the dating environment. I agree it will only move forward and become harder and harder for men, that’s why the only thing to really do would simply be to widely acknowledge this large disadvantage men have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 11:28 PM |
| 0 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.No, I actually say I am explicitly not advocating for this. Was responding to the person saying that wasn’t happening. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 11:24 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The women on Bear Grylls' The Island would have created a better place to live than the males' islandFor example Bear Grylls himself was going in with the mindset to “prove” that women can be just as good survivalists as men and that says a lot about what they were likely trying to do with the whole show. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 11:22 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.“It really doesn’t work that way that the moment a woman turns eighteen she has a row of reliable, compatible men waiting to pair up with her.” Right, because she’s had that before she was eighteen too (with the same age men as her). There are similar desirability men out there for every woman she just won’t consider them good enough for her is all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Did you ignore the part where I explained how I don’t advocate that this should happen? It should just be widely known that it is weighted against men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 11:06 PM |
| 3 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Just to be clear I’m talking about men that aren’t doing anything morally wrong or unethical just the types that women can’t feel attracted to. So are you of the position that people can change their inherent personality? Even if men could do that it’s quite sad that that would be needed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 11:02 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.As I said Im not advocating that it should be fair at all, just that it’s a prerequisite for even the possibility. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 10:58 PM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Why jump to “nightmares of human beings”? I don’t think most people are I don’t believe most people are “nightmares of human beings” maybe that’s one of the differences between men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 10:54 PM |
| 5 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.The ones that women don’t like whether it’s personality or looks both are just as exclusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 10:48 PM |
| 5 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I don’t understand what having roughly equal numbers has to do with men having it far worse alone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 10:39 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I wouldn’t put it past you to actually think I was talking about opportunity to explain it….. Elaborate on what? The fact of being excluded being far worse a punishment than choosing to be single or women only partnering with men who “better” their lives fundamentally excludes the same large group of men? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 10:36 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.It isn’t actually most anymore no it’s far less. The level of success that is fair is simply the same options for men as equivalent women. The problem with your analogy is that the women’s version of it would be that the high school cheerleaders would be excepting ALL of the women so it isn’t a reflection of reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 10:31 PM |
| -5 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Women are born with the desire to partner exclusively with that guy that “betters” her life and if not be single so in a way yeah. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 10:26 PM |
| -7 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.It would feel similar to a man as if a woman were forced to pair up with someone she didn’t like. Men and women do think differently and have different priorities. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 10:24 PM |
| 4 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Yeah that’s the whole point. In order for women to only partner with those she perceives as bettering her life a lot of men must be excluded from dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 10:15 PM |
| 3 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.If you are saying that those things can dull the pain then sure I agree, it’s best to do something to mitigate the suffering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 10:13 PM |
| 0 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.No this is completely false as men’s standards are entirely dependent on their options. It isn’t men that are holding out for their perfect partner or even their preference for that matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 10:09 PM |
| -4 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.It would feel the same to a man as if a woman were to be forced to partner to someone she didn’t like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 10:06 PM |
| 6 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Men put just as much priority in being able to partner as women put in not being forced to partner that’s the difference. Men feel the same way about being forced to be alone by women doing so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 10:02 PM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.It is just like how women only want that guy that makes their life’s “better”. For men being able to partner at all is at a similar level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 09:58 PM |
| -1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.That’s the problem and why one group will always be privileged over the other women’s life’s seem to be awful when they can’t have someone who “betters” their life as a partner and would choose to be single while men’s life’s are awful when they are unable to partner and are excluded by the former. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 09:55 PM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I’m not talking about an abusive relationship. Just one that wouldn’t necessarily fit your definition of making you life “better”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 09:51 PM |
| 0 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Unless you either created a miracle drug or lobotomized men it would be impossible to. Women can only consider certain men as “better” for their lives naturally excluding a large portion of men despite their efforts. That’s why for most of the past it was more fair and sustainable dating environment. The point is that from this point on it will be unfair and entirely in women’s favor so the only viable solution would be to widely acknowledge it as such. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 09:39 PM |
| -4 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Incorrect women, given the mentality of only partnering with men who in their perception improve their life, WILL exclude a large portion of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 09:34 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I believe that’s entirely impossible unless we are able to create some sort of miracle drug or procedure. Sure that’s why I’m not necessarily advocating for it, even if less men would be miserable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 09:32 PM |
| 4 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I see most women saying they’d only enter a relationship that betters their life do you not think that’s what’s happening? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 09:29 PM |
| 2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.I actually said I didn’t want this nor did I define how women’s life’s would need to be worse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 09:25 PM |
| -18 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.It’s fair because men are punished for not pairing up. The lowest level of fairness would be opportunity to do so in the first place, something all woman have access to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 09:24 PM |
| 5 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Because it isn’t biologically possible for most men to do so, I’m sure there are a few that can find it possible to do that but it isn’t an option for most. Women as a group can only consider a relationship “bettering” for her life if they are excluding a large portion of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 09:21 PM |
| 9 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Your mentality can only exist within men that aren’t excluded from the dating market entirely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 09:17 PM |
| -2 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.At the simplest lowest level it would be opportunity to even be involved in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 09:15 PM |
| -3 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Like I said I don’t think it should or can be fair. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 09:13 PM |
| 1 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.Does it suck to you more than being partnered with a man that doesn’t fit your preferences? If so I don’t believe that view is the majority for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 09:12 PM |
| -5 | Fairness/equality if the dating landscape could only exist if the vast majority of women’s life’s were worse if single.We have that right now and it is causing the opposite because for women to be in a relationship where her life is “better” they MUST exclude a large portion of men as a whole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 09:04 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The women on Bear Grylls' The Island would have created a better place to live than the males' islandBecause they didn’t do well enough to survive on the island, despite the show doing all they can to try to make the woman seem better off than they were. Maybe that perceived bias you find in the summary videos is because the show was actually biased towards the woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/08/24 08:36 PM |
| 2 | CMV: The women on Bear Grylls' The Island would have created a better place to live than the males' islandThey wouldn’t have created a place to even be able to live… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 05:20 PM |
| 1 | CMV: The requirement that your spouse be your best friend is genderedThis probably has to do with the fact that men don’t need as much affinity towards their partners to still be happy and even to marry them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/08/24 09:02 AM |
| 1 | How would the world change if men only had medium to low libidos?The human race wouldn’t have existed this long. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 01:23 PM |
| 3 | Men complaining in a free market where nature chooses will only fall on deaf earsIt isn’t a free market if women still benefit from men societally, an actual free market look far different and likely less moral. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 21/08/24 01:21 PM |
| – | Why do so many straight men seem to want anal sex with their women? Will you be in an LTR with a woman if she says she abhors the idea?I think you are greatly overestimating how many men are actually interested in anal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 07:06 PM |
| -8 | Fathers of kids born from sex tourism shall not be hold responsible for those kidsFor similar reasons women are obsessed with exclusively dating the same type of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/08/24 06:57 PM |
| 1 | CMV: more matches don't mean anything if they're all poor optionsThe problem isn’t that all women just have more options it’s that all women have a ton of options while only some men have options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 08:57 PM |
| 1 | Q4M men with zero options, do you consider it a silver lining that you can't attract women who would treat you badly, or do you mourn over not being able to attract them as well?Definitely the latter. I’d rather any other existence than single without choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 08:54 PM |
| 4 | Do men just not care about being abused as much as women?I think you underestimate just how terrible or even abusive being alone as a man can be. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 08:52 PM |
| 1 | Why do men demonize women over 30 so much?I usually only see this for single women over 30, And that’s because they had since a very young age to choose any guy they wanted with the only conclusions being her standards were in orbit compared to her desirability or she chooses to be “single” therefore forcing a man to be alone as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 08:51 PM |
| 1 | Help Me Understand Where "Women aren't ENTITLED to a Relationship"; Wasn't the Problem That Women WEREN'T Seeking Relationships?If a guy is truly lonely his standards will be nothing at all men’s standards are based off of their options. Their equal just means don’t only accept more than yourself, now obviously because men have much wider ranges of attraction women will always be able to date men more than themselves to a degree. That’s the biggest difference between attraction women can only be attracted to more than herself while men need no such thing. It wouldn’t be as horrible as being alone as a man, there is no wo… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Help Me Understand Where "Women aren't ENTITLED to a Relationship"; Wasn't the Problem That Women WEREN'T Seeking Relationships?All women but very rare exceptions only except dating up but the degree will vary a bit. Their equal is what is deserved. Obviously women don’t think that all men deserve to be in a relationship since they exclude most of them from one anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/08/24 12:42 PM |
| 1 | Help Me Understand Where "Women aren't ENTITLED to a Relationship"; Wasn't the Problem That Women WEREN'T Seeking Relationships?Less than half when you eliminate people who partnered during previous dating environments that are not indicative of current trends and you are left with almost 30% and decreasing year by year, so are those 30% of men perfect? Well nobody is perfect but they are the only ones perfect enough for women at least until their standards rise even higher. Of course everyone wants the best they can get but women also want the best they can’t get and won’t settle for less and while women may not be able… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/24 07:28 PM |
| 1 | Help Me Understand Where "Women aren't ENTITLED to a Relationship"; Wasn't the Problem That Women WEREN'T Seeking Relationships?I’m sure there are women that FEEL unlovable yes, they just aren’t men’s breadth of attraction is far to all encompassing for that or at the very lowest level of desirability more willing to PARTNER with someone they aren’t perfectly attracted to. The difference is that women would rather not partner at all then consider anything but her perfect preference, which has very little deviation between women as a whole, were women to actually consider a guy a little closer to her equivalent desirabili… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/24 09:13 AM |
| 1 | Help Me Understand Where "Women aren't ENTITLED to a Relationship"; Wasn't the Problem That Women WEREN'T Seeking Relationships?There are no women excluded from dating, only women excluded from dating the men women want to date. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/08/24 06:37 AM |
| 0 | Help Me Understand Where "Women aren't ENTITLED to a Relationship"; Wasn't the Problem That Women WEREN'T Seeking Relationships?I don’t mean to imply that you specifically do this you may be a rare exception for all I know, sorry if it seemed like I was accusing you. It doesn’t even have to be money that is the requirement that women need outside of the person it could be some other achievement, and that would just be the tip of the iceberg even than if he isn’t one of the few types of men women can be attracted to then there isn’t anything at all he can do. The fact is that there are plenty of men that are excluded from… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 09:05 PM |
| 1 | Men might as well cold approach women in person given how the dating app market skews so heavily against their favor.Both have the exact same requirement for success of me more desirable than every other man she’s seen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 07:59 PM |
| 0 | Help Me Understand Where "Women aren't ENTITLED to a Relationship"; Wasn't the Problem That Women WEREN'T Seeking Relationships?None of those things disqualify women the way men are disqualified for far less. Women ONLY ever have expectations set on them when they date way up. Of course, but in the end it’s men that don’t need anything outside of the woman themselves (mind and body) while women are exclusively the ones that that have requirements outside of the person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 07:55 PM |
| 0 | Help Me Understand Where "Women aren't ENTITLED to a Relationship"; Wasn't the Problem That Women WEREN'T Seeking Relationships?This is about how it makes men feel, in this instance he wanted to date a woman the entire time but only after achieving something was that even an option. There isn’t even a comparison from a woman’s point of view because women are the only ones that require things outside of their date himself to even consider them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 07:38 PM |
| – | Some research or survey came out saying 45% of men aged 18-25 have never approached a women.We are only starting to see the fallout of women excluding men from partnering so it’ll only get worse as time goes on. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 10:07 AM |
| 1 | The "women want..." / "men want..." / "women think..." / "men think..." nonsense is out of control. Genders are not hivemind collectives. Neither gender is collectively conspiring together to create some kind of social outcome, everyone is just trying to deal with their own lives the best they can.Some things are far more “individual” than others, to assume everything about a person is completely unique and entirely different from another is just objectively untrue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 10:05 AM |
| 1 | CMV: People put way more more sexual performance pressure on men than on women.But even having to pretend to like everything he does puts the burden on men, At the end of the day if it didn’t go well women don’t go “I just didn’t pretend to like it enough.” Her thoughts just like any others looking in will still consider it his failure whether she has to pretend to like it or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/08/24 09:48 AM |
| 2 | Would you date someone who is bisexual?So then you just made a statement completely unrelated to this engagement as I never claimed that all men biologically don’t like high n-count women all while not even showing men are less tolerant of them. Just because women say they do doesn’t mean they actually do. No actually you would’ve moving goal posts by comparing situations that aren’t actually equivalent whether you believe them to be or not. I’m sure if you manipulated situations to make them no longer equivalent like you have you ca… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 11:22 PM |
| 2 | Help Me Understand Where "Women aren't ENTITLED to a Relationship"; Wasn't the Problem That Women WEREN'T Seeking Relationships?Requiring things outside of himself as in body and mind. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 11:01 PM |
| 3 | Help Me Understand Where "Women aren't ENTITLED to a Relationship"; Wasn't the Problem That Women WEREN'T Seeking Relationships?A relationship (with the caveat that it includes benefits outside the man himself) yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 10:57 PM |
| 1 | Would you date someone who is bisexual?You said that if it was biological than there was no way for men to tolerate high n-count women, the good-faith came with the question mark as I don’t think you believe that. Either way men can dislike it but still be more tolerant than women that dislike the reverse. And my point is about women saying they wouldn’t mind but likely would mind given the situation arises but since it happens less for women they will continue to believe they wouldn’t mind. So do you think there are the same number … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 10:53 PM |
| 2 | Help Me Understand Where "Women aren't ENTITLED to a Relationship"; Wasn't the Problem That Women WEREN'T Seeking Relationships?No? I’m sure they are attracted to the thing they want to get from a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 10:41 PM |
| 1 | Would you date someone who is bisexual?So then is your argument that 100% of men are intolerant of high n-count women? Remember that even if they biologically don’t like that,unlike women, it doesn’t mean that they won’t still partner with them, most men don’t even get their preference much less every trait they want and partnering with someone that has a trait(s) that you don’t prefer is absolutely evidence of tolerance. Than because there are far more women with primary custody far fewer women would ever even be in the position to … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 10:08 PM |
| 0 | Would you date someone who is bisexual?No because there are more men tolerant of high n-count than women of low. I’d argue just as many women wouldn’t want to be a step mother, there are also more step fathers than step mothers. For this to prove anything you’d have to have the same number of men with women friends as vice versa, there are a lot of women that don’t think like you and don’t like their partners to have female friends there are just far less men that have female friends, not only that but you’d have to prove that the ma… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 09:10 PM |
| -3 | Would you date someone who is bisexual?They are more tolerant of n-count in general because you have to include low and high. There are still a lot of men who are step fathers I’d argue it’s really not that big a gap between men and women. I don’t believe for a second that women are more tolerant towards their partners opposite-sex friends this sentiment probably only exists because women are more likely to have them (for the same reason men can be hostile towards them) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 08:23 PM |
| 3 | CMV: women aren't empathetic caring individualsThey probably are empathetic and caring…… just to men they deem genetically worthy all the rest can suffer for all they care, actively wanting them excluded is their biological prerogative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 08:18 PM |
| 7 | CMV: People put way more more sexual performance pressure on men than on women.Except most of the things you say here would be thought of both by the individual woman and by people in general as the man’s inadequacy’s. And the looks part doesn’t matter at all since men’s attraction is far too varied for any woman to ever be left out for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 08:09 PM |
| -2 | Would you date someone who is bisexual?Men are more tolerant of everything in a partner (yes even including looks) so it makes sense. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 08:03 PM |
| 2 | Help Me Understand Where "Women aren't ENTITLED to a Relationship"; Wasn't the Problem That Women WEREN'T Seeking Relationships?In some cases they absolutely are, but in all cases women are exclusively dating men that they can get something from other than the man himself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 08:00 PM |
| 2 | Help Me Understand Where "Women aren't ENTITLED to a Relationship"; Wasn't the Problem That Women WEREN'T Seeking Relationships?The difference is that is that there wasn’t some before and than some now it was all weren’t interested before and some may be now, it being different women make little difference because they have the same standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 07:58 PM |
| 1 | Help Me Understand Where "Women aren't ENTITLED to a Relationship"; Wasn't the Problem That Women WEREN'T Seeking Relationships?I think it’s a pretty good analogy especially considering the similarities in requirements for friends and family looking for money and ability to date women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Help Me Understand Where "Women aren't ENTITLED to a Relationship"; Wasn't the Problem That Women WEREN'T Seeking Relationships?New women or not it makes little difference they have the same standards for men anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 07:52 PM |
| 11 | Help Me Understand Where "Women aren't ENTITLED to a Relationship"; Wasn't the Problem That Women WEREN'T Seeking Relationships?It’s like if you had friends/family members that always treated you badly, ignored you and wanted nothing to do with you but then suddenly you win the lottery or become extremely successful and all of a sudden those same friends/family members now are trying to act friendly and interested in you. You’re likely to feel some type of way about it and that’s exactly how it’d be for guys in the situation you describe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 11:14 AM |
| 2 | The west can have a stable and prosperous polygynous society.The best it can possibly get now is that men just acquire things to cope with being excluded from partnering whatever that may be, because in the end getting rid of the desire is completely impossible akin to trying to get rid of the desire to sleep, eat or even just breathe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 11:01 AM |
| 1 | Lonely/single women are often disrespected or falsely accused of thingsEven in cases where the woman may be more physically attractive the man is far more than making up for it in EVERY other aspect of possible desirability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 10:52 AM |
| 1 | Why don't we ever hear about "henpecked wives"? It's always the henpecked husbandI’m saying it’s impossible for them to be anything else, so yes I do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/08/24 12:57 AM |
| 1 | Why don't we ever hear about "henpecked wives"? It's always the henpecked husbandDon’t worry it came with the assumption that you don’t believe it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 11:10 PM |
| 1 | Why don't we ever hear about "henpecked wives"? It's always the henpecked husbandThan I’d assume you have a lot of women dating pretty far up around you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 10:35 PM |
| 1 | Why don't we ever hear about "henpecked wives"? It's always the henpecked husbandIf you were to look at it only within a historical context you may have a point I just don’t see that happening anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 10:03 PM |
| 1 | Why don't we ever hear about "henpecked wives"? It's always the henpecked husbandMaybe you are around much older couples? Because this isn’t something that happens often in the way you describe anymore unless the man had some extreme desirability leverage over the woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 09:44 PM |
| 2 | Why don't we ever hear about "henpecked wives"? It's always the henpecked husbandI don’t ever see men telling their wives what to do in the current environment not even politely or as a suggestion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 09:38 PM |
| 1 | Why don't we ever hear about "henpecked wives"? It's always the henpecked husbandAnd I’ve never seen a single situation where the wife was nagged or nitpicked more than the husband, especially now days when women aren’t held to any standards at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Are guys who have more success in their 30s actually out for revenge like some narratives here suggest?I would assume just “pumping and dumping” or multiple relationships. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 09:14 PM |
| 2 | if women date up, men do tooThe problem is that women now date up in every possible trait so maybe in the past this could be true but that is far from the current trend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 08:22 PM |
| 2 | Men have right to seek justice after being falsely accused even if it has a Chilling effect..“it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Is there a reason some men don’t ask questions on a date?For most men it would be that they don’t have the luxury of finding perfect compatibility like women do so as long as you are there and willing the rest doesn’t matter, and then for a much smaller amount of men they won’t care because they are entertaining the rest of the women as well so they need not learn about every one of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Are guys who have more success in their 30s actually out for revenge like some narratives here suggest?I sure hope so, women certainly deserve it for what they continue to do to men to even end up like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 08:12 PM |
| 3 | Why don't we ever hear about "henpecked wives"? It's always the henpecked husbandBecause it simply happens more to men, if a term rarely applies to one group compared to another it stands to reason that it would imply that group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 08:10 PM |
| 4 | If there is "someone for everyone out there" how do so many men struggle to find one (1) woman that likes them back?The difference is that it’s far better to have a lot of options but not be able find someone good enough for you (women), than it is to never be good enough for someone and not have an option (men) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 08:05 PM |
| 2 | If there is "someone for everyone out there" how do so many men struggle to find one (1) woman that likes them back?There is absolutely not somebody for everyone out there, some men will always be excluded by women and some women will never find a guy good enough for them or the guy good enough for them is too far above themselves in desirability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 08:02 PM |
| 1 | Lonely/single women are often disrespected or falsely accused of thingsI mean above her in regard to desirability, as in only receptive to even finding a connection with men more desirable than herself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 07:58 PM |
| 13 | At what point is the lack of experience becomes a red flag and what to do about it?Yeah it doesn’t work that easily for men, especially not anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/08/24 04:02 AM |
| 5 | Women saying that men would be more attractive if they were more confident is a double-bind.Women say they like confidence because they want exclusively very desirable men to approach them and when they don’t they think “oh well he must lack confidence.” As a cope in order to not address the gap in desirability between women and the only men they can find themselves attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 03:18 PM |
| 2 | Lonely/single women are often disrespected or falsely accused of thingsWomen only allow that connection to form with men above a certain level of relative desirability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/08/24 03:03 PM |
| 3 | Lonely/single women are often disrespected or falsely accused of thingsI don’t doubt that even a perfect guy can be insufficient for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 07:59 PM |
| 7 | Lonely/single women are often disrespected or falsely accused of thingsWomen only care to find that “love and connection” with men a certain caliber above themselves, willfully shrinks the pool of which you are willing to even try, especially this way, is deserving of blame. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 11:56 AM |
| 9 | Lonely/single women are often disrespected or falsely accused of thingsOf course, wanting a guy better than her is going to be harder than her equal who she could have by default. But this just means she’s rightfully, accurately judged and certainly not unjustly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 03:46 AM |
| 10 | Lonely/single women are often disrespected or falsely accused of thingsA woman always has the option to have a serious relationship with her equal so if a “lame ass loser” is her equal then yeah that’s still an option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/08/24 02:29 AM |
| 4 | Lonely/single women are often disrespected or falsely accused of thingsNo. But that would mean that she’d be rightfully judged if she ever complains she’s single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 06:20 PM |
| 2 | The “men get other men, that’s why we don’t trust men with our women” and “women are unfairly judging men” dichotomyMen aren’t saying don’t trust men they are essentially saying trust men that have no motive in her (men with 0 interest romantically) which would usually fall on family members. I don’t think it’s the same situation for regarding meeting a man for the first time or even with male friends, that logic is simply: trust men to judge men more than yourself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 06:18 PM |
| 8 | Lonely/single women are often disrespected or falsely accused of thingsThey do just not the same options that every other woman wants. Just go over to foreveralonewomen like the op mentions and you will find that most of them are unable to find the many options they have attractive even if they are equals. The fact is that EVERY woman has the option to marry her equal should she want but obviously none want to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 05:37 PM |
| -3 | The “men get other men, that’s why we don’t trust men with our women” and “women are unfairly judging men” dichotomyYou mention male guardians and I think this is more in line with this sentiment not trusting random guys but men they know or family. It’s not men saying “choose me not them” it’s men saying “women aren’t good at judging men so they will pick the bad ones.” It’s far more about women’s bad judgment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 05:32 PM |
| 1 | The “men get other men, that’s why we don’t trust men with our women” and “women are unfairly judging men” dichotomyActually this doesn’t seem to be a contradiction at all if men are implying specifically that “only men understand other men” then saying women inaccurately judge men is consistent with that logic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 05:24 PM |
| 21 | Lonely/single women are often disrespected or falsely accused of thingsI mean when you have near infinite options like women do and still fail to partner then the blame is absolutely justified. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/08/24 05:19 PM |
| – | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.Introspection is exactly what the woman in this situation lack. I’m not saying it’s their “fault” it’s just biological that they date up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 08:23 PM |
| 8 | If men don't exclusively care about sex then why do they devalue everything else about a woman?Do you see a person as their hobbies, career, and education? It isn’t that we don’t care about any individual woman’s but when guys say that it means we don’t care WHAT hobbies, career, and education they have and we actually have the capacity, unlike women, to be attracted to women with any level or type of them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 08:02 PM |
| – | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.A common agreement doesn’t make it true. It’s far more likely that these women are just dating too far up and having to compensate more to keep the guy interested. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/08/24 12:01 PM |
| 2 | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.I think that a lot of those comparisons have similar ridiculous disparities as well. I think that men need to do more for both attracting and keeping. Women aren’t even willing to humor men that are in their own desirability level so the men that are even able to get into this position is already GREATLY making up for it, now if both were making more equal efforts and desirability in all aspects of the relationship earlier and later, short term or long term than you might have a point but that’s… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 11:36 PM |
| 2 | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.I think that in general men and women’s views on sex are that it is something a man has to earn from her or something that she gives to him so it’s no surprise that this view will lead to this dynamic. Some would also point to what women “have to” do to look good for men but if we were to include that we’d need to include the overwhelming more work men had to do to even be in this position. In the end I just think it’s ridiculous to compare the two when one side has such a clear biological advan… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 11:06 PM |
| 1 | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.Sure that’s valid. But it’s ridiculous to compare performance when the bar for women is so much lower even if you include any “prep” she may “have to do” to look good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 09:36 PM |
| 2 | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.Yes you were you are just framing it differently now for the sake of the argument. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 09:20 PM |
| 2 | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.The instant personal insult huh? Guess I can’t expect any better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 09:18 PM |
| 1 | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.Yeah it is pretty yikes that women do this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 09:09 PM |
| 1 | If women are your biggest problem, you don't have enough real problems.Ahh yes bigger problems than the second highest biological priority only to life. Inability to date can also have nothing to do with the things you listed and have far more to do with women as a group simply not being able to be attracted to all types of men and specifically excluding a decent portion. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 07:20 PM |
| 1 | If the government passed a law saying all premarital sex had to be prostitution (even for only a small $ amount), I think men would lose all interest in itYou could argue the other way around that this would be beneficial for men since many more could now be included and women would likely become less full of themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 07:17 PM |
| 7 | Men don't actually care about sex. If they did, they'd strive to be better at it and actively learn about female anatomy.It isn’t hard to see why this disparity exists when all the burden of performance falls on the man meanwhile all the woman needs to do is show up. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Virgin women are not as desirable as social media makes it seemI’ve never even heard of a guy thinking virginity is a turn off in a woman. Now if you just mean there is a correlation between very undesirable women and women that are virgins I could see that, since all things sex/relationships are so easy for women it stands to reason the only ones that go that long are either exceptionally undesirable (at least to limit their ability to date up) or have 0 interest in it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 06:56 PM |
| – | Have you noticed that financial status and career status has very little importance now compared to the past?Not only is it still an extremely important factor but now any bit of importance that has been taken off of financial status/ career success is shifted to immutable desirable genetic traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 09:51 AM |
| – | "Pickmes never prosper" has a pointNot an unattractive loser but certainly not a 10/10. The disparity only exists because of men’s ability to feel a form of attraction to women they even dislike physically and or emotionally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/08/24 03:48 AM |
| 3 | Just treat women as regular people who have sex and make babiesFirst we’d need women to stop putting themselves on a pedestal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 08:28 PM |
| 3 | "Pickmes never prosper" has a pointIf a “pick me” woman ever tried with her equal it’d be the fastest path to marriage possible. They obviously, like any other woman, don’t even entertain the idea though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 08:26 PM |
| – | Virgin women are not as desirable as social media makes it seemMaybe you don’t but there are insignificant exceptions to everything, some people are also born with extra fingers or become rich after winning the lottery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 08:21 PM |
| 2 | The bar is on the floor for a being marriage material womenYet women are overwhelmingly interested exclusively in men that would only ever waste her time… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 08:21 AM |
| 1 | Virgin women are not as desirable as social media makes it seemThe worst it could possibly be is neutral for women. Unlike for men where the very fact itself is undesirable, women that claim it makes them undesirable are confusing it with other undesirable traits about themselves and even then those traits can never disqualify her from men only men she considers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/08/24 08:12 AM |
| 10 | AMALTWillfully stupid for what? Getting what they want…? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 07:09 AM |
| 6 | AMALTI don’t think any guy would have a problem with that, the only issue is that a lot of this would just be a positive thing for men. The reason this can’t be really even close to the same thing is it takes an incredible amount less time, effort and genetic luck for any given woman to get any given man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/08/24 07:06 AM |
| 1 | There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effortThey are comparable in the way that they struggle to get by and take what they can get if they can. Though to be fair this really can only apply to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 11:02 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effortPeople that say that haven’t experienced prolonged loneliness (without another option) for a long period of time, it’s like a rich person with a personal chef their whole life seeing a homeless person eating out of the garbage and saying “you actually want to eat like that you need therapy.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 10:02 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effortBut that’s just the point I’m making being alone can be MORE hurtful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 09:49 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effortTo some it may be, maybe they will suck and take less than being alone does to someone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 08:55 PM |
| – | In 20 years, will women blame men for allowing their sexual liberation?They’ll never have the retrospection to actually trace it back to that point it will simply be: “why did men cause this?” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 07:15 PM |
| 3 | CMV: if he doesn't fight for you when you break up, he's not the oneYeah because she sure seems worth fighting for…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 08:18 AM |
| 2 | Relationships and Marriage is over. "Situationships" are the now and future and they are actually better than relationships and marriage.How is it better now for the not so small portion of men that are excluded from having them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/08/24 07:12 AM |
| 1 | There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effortYes, the difference being that just having the partner IS the net positive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 10:11 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effortIt does if they make you happier than if you were alone. I don’t doubt that you would but not everyone feels the same as you do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 09:58 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effortBecause dating someone IS the net positive, obviously far fewer women seem to think this way probably due to a combination of biology and overwhelming options. And if you are happier dating someone, anyone, rather than alone? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 09:41 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effortI said almost, im sure there are a few that just don’t want anyone, but for most perpetually single women want a guy far outside their means wanting someone that “adds a net positive” is just another way of saying that, that net positive guy being outside their desirability. They don’t have to be at their best for this to be true. I’m sure there are some that don’t want to date but the fact is that most men do want to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 09:14 PM |
| 2 | Cold Approaching will always be one of the most ineffective ways to meet women and most men shouldn't bother.Not an individual but if it’s the entirety of the group that is causing/making it happen it is actually. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 08:27 PM |
| 2 | Cold Approaching will always be one of the most ineffective ways to meet women and most men shouldn't bother.Sure, women’s inability to feel attraction for a wide variety of men inherently excludes the men they cannot feel attraction for, obviously most women aren’t doing this to intentionally make sure those men are excluded and most are unconscious that they are even causing this to happen, but nevertheless they are the cause. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 07:19 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Standards and WhyWomen seem to definitely not only have more preferences but more standards just naturally and are far less happy having any of them unmet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 07:14 PM |
| 2 | What Are Your Standards and WhyNo im saying that in a perfect world were I could just have anything I want I’d want someone similar, but in the real world were I’m already excluded from dating it’s unrealistic to even expect to partner at all. A preference is very different than a standard and I believe that it would surprise a lot of people to lean most men don’t get their preferences met and are fine with that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 06:34 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Standards and WhyI have a preference for being partnered over being alone. If I were to be desirable enough to partner I’d say I’d probably prefer some close to myself in traits but that would be way too high to make a standard even then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 06:12 PM |
| 0 | Are men the employer or employee of relationships?Who makes the final say at the start of the relationship? The employer/woman, who has to do the searching and initiate? Employee/men, Who has the options should they need a replacement? Employers/women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 05:57 PM |
| 2 | "Even if I Got a Girlfriend, She'll Always Want Someone Else" - Is This An Example of Low Self Esteem/Insecurity?Unfortunately it’s just realism for today’s women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 05:52 PM |
| 1 | Low self-esteem and low confidence are good things, and a lot more people should have them.I think it comes down to the definition low self esteem is bad but correct self esteem is good, so if an undesirable person were claiming they are undesirable that isn’t low self esteem it’s correct self esteem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 05:51 PM |
| 1 | What Are Your Standards and WhyI don’t have any standards other than “be female” because I already don’t have an option with that standard in place so why would I add more? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/08/24 05:48 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effortAlmost all the women that are single are because their standards are too high and unreasonable. It isn’t “but chaaaaad tho” it’s that women standards are currently at a point that it excludes a decent portion of men at their best, most people may not be complaining about “chad”, which isn’t even the problem there will always be very desirable men, but most men in the current dating environment aren’t able to date either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/24 10:47 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effortI think it’s definitely more than 5% you have to remember that as women’s range of men increases their collective standards rise and men have to be better and better, so maybe in the past it might have been as low as 5% but now after women’s standards have exploded to such an extreme it’s much higher. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/24 08:36 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effortMost men? Yeah I’d agree it probably is just about most. But it also isn’t a tiny 1% of men it disqualifies either there are still a good portion of men that are excluded for reasons they cannot control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/24 07:49 PM |
| 2 | Cold Approaching will always be one of the most ineffective ways to meet women and most men shouldn't bother.Women are proven to overrate themselves far more than men, the men that do rate themselves highly actually rate EVERYONE else higher as well meaning they just have a higher scale while no such correlation exists in women who consistently rate men lower than men do, women higher and themselves the highest, in fact it’s more than 90% of women that think they are above average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/24 07:24 PM |
| 2 | Cold Approaching will always be one of the most ineffective ways to meet women and most men shouldn't bother.You’ve seen enough through your lens of viewing them as lesser to THINK that is untrue. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/24 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Cold Approaching will always be one of the most ineffective ways to meet women and most men shouldn't bother.Just simply incorrect women can only feel attraction to relatively more desirable men while men need absolutely no such thing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/24 07:12 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effortIt isn’t just reaching the peak it’s simply that not having the right genetics can and will prevent you from reaching an acceptable level at least for what women find acceptable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/24 07:10 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effortTo a degree people can change these things but to ignore the reality that these are far more affected by genetics (not just nurture) and luck would just simply be wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/24 06:50 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effortNo I mean the things you list here are all greatly affected at birth by genetics, yes including charisma. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/24 06:40 PM |
| 1 | There is nothing wrong with appreciating (and preferring) the results a person cultivates through hard work and effortAll of these things are far more naturally inherent than you realize. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/24 06:18 PM |
| – | Men also label women who they find unattractive " creeps"They absolutely do not, not even the least desirable, mean and nasty women are called creeps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/24 06:17 PM |
| 1 | The preference of some men for very older women or very fat women is because these men have romanticized what they perceive as sexually availableI think it’s just simply that men as a group can have a much wider, more varied and diverse sense of attraction especially compared to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/24 06:13 PM |
| 2 | Cold Approaching will always be one of the most ineffective ways to meet women and most men shouldn't bother.She dating up if she is a woman. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/24 06:04 PM |
| 1 | Cold Approaching will always be one of the most ineffective ways to meet women and most men shouldn't bother.Of something that causes something to happen even if unintentional or unconscious? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/24 04:14 AM |
| 1 | Cold Approaching will always be one of the most ineffective ways to meet women and most men shouldn't bother.Because something doesn’t need to be intentionally or consciously doing something for it to be the cause. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/08/24 02:26 AM |
| – | Women want equality in everything except dating. How does that work?It isn’t about it making it equal but totally acknowledgement by all that it is an entirely one sided endeavor. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 09:35 PM |
| 2 | Are men becoming ok with no sex?No it’s certainly less than 40% that’s top tier but it’s also less than 40% that are able to participate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 09:33 PM |
| 2 | Are men becoming ok with no sex?Except that it’s actually even less men able to date than 40% at under 30 years old. Your experiences or friends aren’t even a fraction of a percentage. And to the OPs point I wouldn’t even consider married as being opposed to his point. His post also says most men which is still true even with those stats. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Are men becoming ok with no sex?Certainly not less than half of men being unable to partner. As few single men as possible is what it should be obviously it can’t be 0 but less than half? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 08:49 PM |
| 4 | Are men becoming ok with no sex?Even if we just take that 40% as a generous estimate that is still far too low. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 08:39 PM |
| 2 | There are things passport bros don’t understandThe only thing they need to understand is that they have 0 chance of partnering in the US while they might have a chance somewhere else regardless of the reason. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 08:34 PM |
| 2 | The key to long term marriages is woman marrying their equalThe problem is that all women see both themselves as more and men as less so she could never learn her true value or the true value of her partner. Even extremely insecure women still see themselves as better than they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 08:21 PM |
| 4 | Are men becoming ok with no sex?Now exclude all the men that coupled before drastic changes that happened to the dating environment that happened within the last 5-10 years and all the people conditioned in older dating environments, only then will you have an accurate representation of what’s truly happening to men today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 08:17 PM |
| 2 | Cold Approaching will always be one of the most ineffective ways to meet women and most men shouldn't bother.Maybe to encounter them but not to actually meet them as they are only open to interaction with very desirable guys. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 06:32 PM |
| 2 | Men are turned off by women approaching them CMVWomen are only ever open to dating up so it goes without saying that if a woman is going to approach a man it’s going to be WAY up and a guy at the very pinnacle of desirability is obviously going to be pretty picky since he can choose exactly who he wants, so in a way yeah you’re right when a woman approaches a man he probably is turned off but not for the reason you think. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 06:33 AM |
| 9 | Cold Approaching will always be one of the most ineffective ways to meet women and most men shouldn't bother.If she’s dating only up, the way women today do, yes it’s her fault. There is no worse fate than to never have the option to partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 06:28 AM |
| 5 | Cold Approaching will always be one of the most ineffective ways to meet women and most men shouldn't bother.I never claimed it was intentional. Or even a conscious choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/08/24 01:18 AM |
| – | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Unable to. Being unable to partner is also very predictive of depression. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 09:42 PM |
| – | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Yes, experience the former group doesn’t get to have. I explicitly don’t want sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 08:17 PM |
| 6 | Cold Approaching will always be one of the most ineffective ways to meet women and most men shouldn't bother.Yeah, then at the end they will blame men claiming they were victims the whole time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 08:05 PM |
| 4 | Cold Approaching will always be one of the most ineffective ways to meet women and most men shouldn't bother.They choose to make men suffer just so they can “suffer” later. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 07:52 PM |
| 4 | Passport Bro's Use the reasoning "There are no good women in the West" to cover up the fact they are losersIt’s objectively true that womens standards in the US are much higher than most places in the world while the women are less desirable than most places, and it isn’t just being a “loser” that will completely disqualify you it’s simply being below average that will make even the least desirable woman here completely unwilling. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 06:20 PM |
| – | At what age woman loses all her value?Unfortunately never, unlike men, a woman will always have meaningful value to a man by default. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 06:15 PM |
| 4 | Like simps, Pick Me girls are only used. They're never really wanted nor respected.The difference is that even undesirable women have “simps” while “pick me” girls still only go for the same few men the rest of the women do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 06:13 PM |
| 32 | Cold Approaching will always be one of the most ineffective ways to meet women and most men shouldn't bother.Women have made all ways to meet them ineffective unless you are an extremely desirable man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 06:09 PM |
| – | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Yours is a position that can only be taken after having fulfilled that desire enough before. Which seems to be in line with most others in the latter category I outlined. So in the end it’s the ones who are excluded completely that are better off entirely having that desire gone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 06:07 PM |
| 1 | Why do *some men, try to convince virginal & low n count women to have sex without marriage/commitment?Because men that are very desirable are used to getting sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 09:44 AM |
| 7 | The male sexuality catch 22It’s very simple there are few men that women can possibly be attracted to and those men are the ones who can be sexual. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 09:39 AM |
| -1 | If all men prefer young women what should wifed up women do after the age of 40?She can feel a tiny little taste of what it’s like to exist as a man that isn’t in the tiny fraction of top desirability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 06:55 AM |
| – | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?If sex were completely out of the equation being able to partner at all is certainly better than never being able to regardless who it is. It isn’t about finding other things or not being able to enjoy life without, it’s about being biologically FORCED without any way around desiring it second only to living. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/08/24 06:52 AM |
| – | The global average height for women is 159cm. For a vast majority of men, they are not short enough, and women are not tall enough, for height to be a serious issue in dating (unless they are dealing some Americans with 6 6 6 brainwashing).Well yeah because they are average height. The reason women like height is about both genetics and protection, so short women will want very tall men to make up for their own genetics along with the general height = big = protection that all women have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 10:13 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Males are intimidated by highly educated successful womenIntimidation is almost never a factor rather successful women are usually far less desirable in both personality and looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 10:09 PM |
| 0 | The cold reality is that men "settle" for women who they aren't madly in love with tooYeah I agree actually I think most men only even get to marry women they think are average, the difference is that men can be more accepting/attracted to women that they are even disgusted by than women can be to average men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 10:08 PM |
| 3 | Virgin shaming isnt real.Most women wouldn’t even consider a virgin past his teens. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 10:04 PM |
| – | The global average height for women is 159cm. For a vast majority of men, they are not short enough, and women are not tall enough, for height to be a serious issue in dating (unless they are dealing some Americans with 6 6 6 brainwashing).Women aren’t attracted to men that are taller than them they are attracted to men that are taller than OTHER MEN. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 10:00 PM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?I’m not following, are you saying that since people are out of touch with their feelings they are asking for parters out of their means? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 09:56 PM |
| 2 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?I just wasn’t 100% sure, so far it seems most people in the latter category I outlined wouldn’t eliminate that desire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 09:01 PM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?So is that no you wouldn’t get rid of that desire? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 08:54 PM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?It’s likely entirely different getting to experience it vs not but only time will tell for you but for what it’s worth I hope you can continue to not need it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 07:50 PM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?That’s certainly interesting… I can’t even imagine enjoying this type of despair but I’m glad you have a way to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 07:48 PM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?That isn’t a very long time being alone at all and probably isn’t uncommon. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 07:46 PM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Yes that’s why I referred to partnering in the post. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 07:34 PM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Your thinking that every man has the choice to just relinquish their biological imperative second only to life without any suffering is simply flawed, most men do not have that choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 07:28 PM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?I don’t think you understand that isn’t even a choice that can be made for most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 07:18 PM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?What do you mean? I was talking about when you are forced into being unable to partner? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 07:14 PM |
| 1 | How would the dating world change if all men became happy/content being single?I think it’s far more biological that they don’t pursue and I don’t think even the threat of extinction could change that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 07:12 PM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Only the a lucky few men can just adjust to their second highest biological priority in life being unattainable, for most it will only get worse the longer you go. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 07:08 PM |
| 1 | How would the dating world change if all men became happy/content being single?Women would die alone before the vast majority would even consider pursuing men. You would have a couple that do for a couple generations then it’d be over. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 07:05 PM |
| 1 | How would the dating world change if all men became happy/content being single?But with men no longer actively being the driving force of sex and relationships they would decrease to a point that would be completely unsustainable almost instantly, look how it is now with men still being the driving force women have already made it unsustainable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 06:57 PM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?So then you don’t think it would bring more pain if say you went the rest of your life without being able to fulfill that desire? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 06:54 PM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?This would be for those unable to partner or/ be unwilling to have casual sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 06:52 PM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?While that’s also not great it can’t outweigh the innate biological imperative men have to partner even with difficulties doing so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 06:48 PM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Yeah, one of the worst existences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 06:43 PM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?You are lucky then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 06:41 PM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?The only thing it would affect in this hypothetical would be specifically your desire to partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 06:40 PM |
| 2 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Exactly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 06:39 PM |
| 2 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?An unfulfillable desire this strong sure is a unique form of torture. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 07:40 AM |
| 2 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Might even be the most damaging thing possible for a man’s mental health. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 07:35 AM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Yeah, if there is no way to fulfill that desire it will only bring pain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 07:33 AM |
| 3 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Well if you are able to flirt with women you’re probably likely to end up with a girlfriend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 07:32 AM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?That’s good, I hope all goes well for you. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 07:31 AM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Still a pretty terrible thing to live with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 04:03 AM |
| 3 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Maybe one day it’ll be an option as more and more men become unable to partner, we can only hope. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 04:02 AM |
| 2 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?The only thing eliminated would be the desire for a romantic partner anything socially aside from that would stay. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 03:59 AM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Not just height I’m just small in general and it’s enough to disqualify physical attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 03:29 AM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Nope I’m too small of a guy for any woman to have any form of physical attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 03:16 AM |
| 1 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereYeah women can’t truly be as possibly alone or single as a man can. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 03:02 AM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?That wouldn’t work for me there isn’t anything possible to work for me nut maybe somebody else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 03:01 AM |
| 1 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereI think your view is one that women can easily have since they always have an opinion to partner,that false perception only breaks when you spend very large amounts of time without any options at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 02:43 AM |
| 3 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?I don’t believe that everyone does lose that desire only a lucky few can hope for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 02:40 AM |
| 3 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?That’s still something I tried 2 years without a like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 02:34 AM |
| 1 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereThen men under a level of desirability don’t have the option for real love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 02:18 AM |
| 1 | There will aways be a battle between the sexesBut women want to do so while excluding a portion of men | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 02:07 AM |
| 3 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?I don’t think that would eliminate all traces of that desire though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 02:06 AM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?But my question is asking would you choose to eliminate it if you are unable to have any benefits from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 01:53 AM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?You were able to match someone on bumble no? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 01:37 AM |
| 2 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Then assume that it would only effect your desire to partner romantically but you would keep everything else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 01:37 AM |
| 1 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?This question is assuming casual sex is already not happening. It wouldn’t affect consumerism. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 01:34 AM |
| 4 | There will aways be a battle between the sexesCurrently it does actually. You just have to eliminate outdated numbers. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 12:38 AM |
| 5 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Yeah, living with the psychological torture it brings is not fun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 12:38 AM |
| 2 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?So in reality you were the type that could partner but not with someone you wanted. It’s definitely very likely that people like this would be less inclined to eliminate their desire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 12:37 AM |
| 2 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?As in turn it into the desire for something else? If so do you believe that is possible for most? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 12:35 AM |
| 1 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereBecause men don’t require women to be better than other women to even start like women do, men as a whole are attracted to and want to partner with all women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 12:19 AM |
| 2 | There will aways be a battle between the sexesBut women as a whole do not want to do so with all men and only want to make sure a few men get this, so if everyone were partnered women would be unhappy and if they aren’t men will be unhappy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 12:18 AM |
| 0 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?That’s why this question is assuming the individual gets no positives from that desire in the first place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 12:02 AM |
| 3 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Interesting. I can’t say my desire to partner has anything at all to do with empathy, I wonder how common this is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 01/08/24 12:00 AM |
| 1 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereNot the same traits but always men better than most with those traits, so of the few that they can be attracted to there will be variance but that only exists at the top and isn’t actually variance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 11:57 PM |
| 3 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Good luck then. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 11:19 PM |
| 3 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?What I’m referring to is hypothetical that a person could remove their desire to partner as for it not to go unfulfilled their whole life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 11:18 PM |
| 4 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Sure seems that way to me, at least for a not so small portion of the population. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 11:17 PM |
| 4 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Yeah you wouldn’t apply. But you can answer too if you want. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 11:15 PM |
| 3 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?So does that mean you think that having that desire despite being unfulfilled makes someone more empathetic? And if so then you think that’s worth being unfulfilled? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 11:14 PM |
| 6 | For those who can’t/don’t partner, would you eliminate the desire to?Do you think you would feel any different if it wasn’t just that nobody was a good match but that there was nobody? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 10:55 PM |
| 1 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereYeah, and you think there is a lot of men that are better than most in all of them? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 09:50 PM |
| 1 | How would the dating world change if all men became happy/content being single?Then the biggest change would be there is only a couple generations left for the human race. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 09:49 PM |
| 1 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereYou think there are a lot of men that are better than the majority of others at every trait? There can be a few different types as long as they are all better than most other men at all levels. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 09:48 PM |
| – | People who lie about their past can’t be trustedOh you said people in your post so I didn’t know. Even then there are probably some exceptions but I can’t think of any right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 09:20 PM |
| – | People who lie about their past can’t be trustedI think it depends on a few factors, for instance if a man were to be unable to partner and was a virgin until later years he’d have no choice but to lie about it or be unable to partner forever. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 09:17 PM |
| 0 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereIt’s on a similar level to their lives and people can get entitled to that too. The reality is that nobody is actually entitled to anything at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 09:07 PM |
| 2 | How would the dating world change if all men became happy/content being single?There would be no dating world anymore because humans wouldn’t have made it this far. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 08:49 PM |
| 3 | There will aways be a battle between the sexesThe reason for this is simple, the solutions for either side’s problems are mutually exclusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 08:48 PM |
| 0 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereThat can happen when you have a biological desire second only to your life itself. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 08:32 PM |
| 2 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereThe ones that are better than most men in all traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Hypergamy is just the quality of men having to add something to a woman's life.And the things women need add for her equal are exclusively her while men need to have things that are outside themselves. The ONLY time this would not be true is if a woman was trying to date WAY outside her relative desirability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 08:30 PM |
| 1 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereYes, I believe nobody is owed anything at all. When women talk about ugly men it’s usually ugly but charismatic men who still have a level of desirability, the best way to tell if a guy is truly undesirable is if he would take anyone at all. The difference between men and women is that rather than having the biological priority to partner they have the biological priority to ONLY partner upwards in relative desirability. Those guys you left had no other choice how are they supposed to choose you… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 08:27 PM |
| 6 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereBoth things wrong, not entitled because I don’t propose that they HAVE to change only acknowledge the truth, and it isn’t just “good”men women want it’s much better men relative to themselves with making sure less desirable men stay alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 10:16 AM |
| 4 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereWho talked about normalizing anything? I reference biological factors to show that therapy could never get rid of a man’s desire to partner. But you bring up a good point just like rape we should try to acknowledge that women’s desire to only partner up with the same very desirable men and force the rest to be alone is also an immoral thing and shouldn’t be normalized like it is now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 09:53 AM |
| 9 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereCome on really? Not only is that far lower on the biological priority list but it isn’t hunting but provision, which men are still doing regardless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 09:27 AM |
| 6 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereSeek therapy for what? In an attempt to eliminate any desire to partner? Because that’s impossible it’s biologically ingrained in men nothing a man does to his psyche will ever change that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 09:15 AM |
| 6 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereThe reason it’s relevant is that it isn’t men but the disenfranchised group that will feel this way, the way you perceive as entitled. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 09:09 AM |
| 9 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereI’m not sure I understand what you are trying to say there in the second part? Are you saying what’s the point if women were to act the same way if the situation were reversed? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 09:07 AM |
| 1 | Men need to normalize makeup and cosmetics to better compete like women doIt wouldn’t work, almost everything women are attracted to is genetic. The difference in desire doesn’t come from women being better but from men having many times more capacity to desire. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 09:04 AM |
| 17 | Why do men feel so entitled to women hereIt’s not entitlement more genuine questions of what to do/criticism of the fact that women can only possibly be attracted to a few types of men. You’d probably have these same thoughts were the shoe on the other foot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 09:00 AM |
| 2 | Hypergamy is just the quality of men having to add something to a woman's life.I think you are simply incapable of thinking in a way that isn’t quite so privileged as you have it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 31/07/24 03:30 AM |
| 1 | Hypergamy is just the quality of men having to add something to a woman's life.So you will believe. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 10:53 PM |
| 2 | Hypergamy is just the quality of men having to add something to a woman's life.More people are single today than ever because there simply aren’t very many men that women can possibly find desirable enough to even consider. There isn’t even anything men can do about it that’s why on the rare occasion a man does have an opinion he takes it regardless of his preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 09:44 PM |
| 3 | Hypergamy is just the quality of men having to add something to a woman's life.It’s laughable to even compare the standards of average men vs women, only extremely desirable men (who women think are average) can even hope to find those things much more set them as a requirement. I think you’d be surprised just how many men happy just getting who they can as opposed to anywhere near their ideal since they won’t even ever have that option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 08:07 PM |
| 0 | Hypergamy is just the quality of men having to add something to a woman's life.The difference is a woman need only add who they themselves are, while men must add far more than who they are to be considered. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 05:30 PM |
| 2 | How to increase trust in the dating market?All of this comes exclusively from women only being open to a narrow group of men, this causes the only men they are interested in to sleep around and the men that are excluded to be rightfully resentful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 05:23 PM |
| – | Men's addiction and dependence on porn is because of womenI think more of this is caused by an increasing amount of men being unable to have a partner at all in the current times or at the very least forced into long periods of singleness without an option, regardless of what happened historically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 05:19 PM |
| – | Men's addiction and dependence on porn is because of womenMen are increasingly unable to even be in a relationship and forced into long periods of singleness at the least so it’s no wonder there are lots who are dependent on porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 05:14 PM |
| 3 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.Men can never have the upper hand in dating dynamics because as long as there is a free dating environment some men will always be left out because they aren’t better than other men. Women can only possibly feel attracted to a few types of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 03:09 PM |
| – | I'm tired of people telling men that they shouldn't care about relationship/sex/intimacy and just focus on "being happy singe"The people that give that advice are the people who are always privileged to have it. The only ones that can ever even come close to understanding are the men who are forced to go without. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 09:11 AM |
| -2 | Doesn't Elon, Nick Cannon etc. prove that TRP is partially right about hypergamy and about how women are willing to share certain men?You don’t need to look at them to prove hypergamy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 06:57 AM |
| 1 | John meets sarah and has two options1: I wouldn’t be having a one night stand or caring about the sound of a woman’s voice. Because I don’t like the idea of hookups and I don’t put much weight on the sound of someone’s voice. 2: if a man has options to choose from then he is more desirable than most and will probably be pickier than most for commitment since he’ll have the majority of women attracted to him.. 3: his attractiveness is absolutely a factor not only would a less attractive guy not care about something like the sound o… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 06:55 AM |
| 15 | Say you were married to a cute woman 40 years your juniour. You return from a business trip to find her....How common do you think men marrying 40 years their junior is?? Also important to note that in this situation she would have still chosen to marry a guy 40 years her senior…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/07/24 06:45 AM |
| 1 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.No the pain of being alone has only ever gotten worse, I believe it’s just biological and that ,at least for most, can’t really be overcome I’m sure men can find ways to cope or numb the pain but to be totally fine without would be an impossible task for most. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 11:06 PM |
| 2 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.26 years. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 10:49 PM |
| 1 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.I don’t think any extended period of being alone can make most men ok with being alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 10:23 PM |
| 8 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.While true I think the amount of men that can truly be happy alone without any form of romantic interaction is an extremely small percentage and I think the reason for this is more biological than socially imposed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 08:50 PM |
| 2 | Most women make it incredibly difficult for men to meet and connect with them these daysIt’s because most men are somewhere in the realm of average and women want nothing to do with them at best or actively want them to be alone at worst. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 08:05 PM |
| 1 | I will tell you exactly how your age gap relationship will goIf she thinks that 40 is the prime of her life then she’s got a lot more problems than just dating a guy 15 years older… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 08:02 PM |
| 0 | Where Does the Notion that "Men are More Romantic" Come From?Yeah it comes down to how you define it generally women are the ones more requiring of “romance” while men are the ones actually actively doing it, required to or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 08:01 PM |
| 7 | The best move a single man can make is work on being happy alone.Not possible for every man to be happy alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 07:53 PM |
| 4 | Correlation does not equal causation.All a woman needs to do is not date extremely far up and you’ll be good, obviously there will still be some rare outliers but for the most part that’s it. Women routinely treat men like they are dangerous criminals all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 06:19 AM |
| 2 | Friends of perpetually single men often have a different perspective than perpetually single men themselvesYou probably got downvoted because you just said the same thing I said just with sass. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 29/07/24 04:38 AM |
| – | CMV: the woman is the prizeYou outlined how traditional women are the “prize” but the vast majority of women are not traditional and therefore not the prize. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 11:26 PM |
| 2 | Correlation does not equal causation.It isn’t a few individuals but the vast majority of single mothers whose choices led her there. Men already do get blamed for crime all the time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 08:58 PM |
| 8 | Correlation does not equal causation.The reason single mothers get blame is because most of the time it is her own choices that get her where she is, so yes you should be judged for bad choices. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 08:44 PM |
| 5 | “More women should start approaching men” and the average guy would still be invisibleIt doesn’t stop at looks either women’s emotional standards are just as limited. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 08:40 PM |
| 0 | This whole idea of "get with someone you're not attracted to because it's your duty as a citizen"Most men would rather the option to have that exact “bad” situation you outlined than be alone without a chance just because they didn’t fit the very narrow collective standard of what women can feel attraction for, because that’s the alternative. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 08:38 PM |
| 1 | CMV: the woman is the prizeI don’t necessarily disagree but you do realize that this makes the vast majority of current women not the “prize” right? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 08:34 PM |
| 1 | Passport bros (i.e. men who visit certain countries or relocate solely to get a much younger, submissive gf/wifeu from a more conservative culture) shouldn’t really complain about gold diggers. Or at least green card enthusiasts. That’s a tradeoff they have to acceptNot all of them are doing it for that reason just as many are going to other countries in order to have the chance to partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/07/24 08:28 PM |
| 2 | The gender ratio is almost even, so why are so many guys unable to land a single girlfriend, while every girl seems to be takenThe problem is that it isn’t 1 to 1 like you suggest it’s more like 1 to 5, small minority of men and large majority of women. If it were just 1 to 1, people just being “avoidant”, then the dating environment would be in a MUCH better place. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/24 08:03 PM |
| – | The gender ratio is almost even, so why are so many guys unable to land a single girlfriend, while every girl seems to be takenThey’d rather continue to try for the very desirable guy until the end than ever consider that she may not be at his level. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/24 07:59 PM |
| – | The gender ratio is almost even, so why are so many guys unable to land a single girlfriend, while every girl seems to be takenBecause most women are only exclusively considering very desirable men which ends up in women trying to date a desirable man for a while until she realizes he won’t/wasn’t being exclusive so she will eventually move to the next very desirable guy and so on. This is why you see so many women complaining about men not wanting to commit and only wanting sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/07/24 10:31 AM |
| – | Women should get some slack for their decisions in their youthMen are judged for what they are unable to do compared to women so the comparison would be the guy that is a virgin and unable to sleep around or partner not a guy that is and they are judged MORE harshly for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 11:32 PM |
| 2 | Isn’t just being upfront that you are not an LTR/Marrying guy and telling your date openly to expect no commitment better than plate-spinning or pretending you are in an LTR, but not really committing? Like it’s being honest. That’s always admirable.I had assumed so that’s why I wasn’t referring to you specifically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 07:23 PM |
| 3 | Isn’t just being upfront that you are not an LTR/Marrying guy and telling your date openly to expect no commitment better than plate-spinning or pretending you are in an LTR, but not really committing? Like it’s being honest. That’s always admirable.I’m not sir i understand your reply? What I said is essentially don’t have sex so you(generally not you specifically) can’t be used for sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 07:21 PM |
| 3 | Isn’t just being upfront that you are not an LTR/Marrying guy and telling your date openly to expect no commitment better than plate-spinning or pretending you are in an LTR, but not really committing? Like it’s being honest. That’s always admirable.When did I justify it? I explained why it happens and why it would continue happening I never made any moral claim about it. The problem is that ultimately lying works and people willing to do so aren’t going to go away so you would have to make lying not work so advise I would give to women for this situation would me don’t give out sex at least for a LONG period of time because if the guy is desirable enough for his strategy to work than he will move on quickly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 07:07 PM |
| 2 | Isn’t just being upfront that you are not an LTR/Marrying guy and telling your date openly to expect no commitment better than plate-spinning or pretending you are in an LTR, but not really committing? Like it’s being honest. That’s always admirable.“Hmm… your flair seems apt, I wonder why?” Do you enjoy making fun of people less fortunate than yourself? I have never done or attempted any form of casual hook up. But the fact is that if people can’t get what they want while being honest means some will be dishonest in order to achieve their goal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 06:54 PM |
| 0 | All love is transactional and some men simply have nothing to offerThe only difference being men are the only ones to be able to find value in partners with nothing or at the very least FAR less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 06:38 PM |
| 3 | Isn’t just being upfront that you are not an LTR/Marrying guy and telling your date openly to expect no commitment better than plate-spinning or pretending you are in an LTR, but not really committing? Like it’s being honest. That’s always admirable.It’s simple, if more we’re upfront about it less would be able to do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 06:36 PM |
| 0 | CMV - these are reasonable requirements for dating a single momThe only reasonable requirement is 4 as any higher requirements at all would suggest she is somehow more desirable instead of the reality of being less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 07:48 AM |
| 0 | How much do you agree or disagree with these statements on male/female imperative?4, and 2. 4 because I think if the guy is THAT much better she won’t even need exclusivity, and I think the monkey branching would depend on the level of the relationship dating? Absolutely, married? Less likely and maybe just result in affairs. 2 because men simply don’t actually want to end up like this, the vast majority wanting to end up married to 1 woman, the only truth being exceptionally desirable men being spoiled for choice in a similar way women as a whole are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 07:46 AM |
| 1 | I no longer believe in redpill.Men aren’t hypergamous because thy simply don’t fit the definition. If you believe women’s standards are anywhere near the same as men’s then that’s completely ignorant at best or intentionally deceptive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 07:37 AM |
| 3 | Most of the "AWALT" generalizations made (especially by red pillers) on this are sub false, because they are only true about a tiny bubble of always online Americans, not the general population of people around the world.All men would probably be bettor off leaving American women alone but that’s obviously not very feasible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/07/24 04:03 AM |
| 2 | Most of the "AWALT" generalizations made (especially by red pillers) on this are sub false, because they are only true about a tiny bubble of always online Americans, not the general population of people around the world.Not everyone can so easily leave the country or live in another for a while though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 07:10 PM |
| 3 | Most of the "AWALT" generalizations made (especially by red pillers) on this are sub false, because they are only true about a tiny bubble of always online Americans, not the general population of people around the world.Sure, but it’s hard to believe if that’s all you’ve ever experienced. This argument goes both ways though because it’s hard to imagine someone that contradicts what you’ve experienced your entire life whether you’re in the US or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 06:32 PM |
| 0 | Which trait are you getting rid of?What are the point of these? Women in here will just be disingenuous anyway? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 06:24 PM |
| 3 | Why don’t men value friendships with each other?Because it’s biologically a higher priority to partner for men. That would be like saying “why do women consider being single better than with a partner they don’t like?” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 06:21 PM |
| 9 | Most of the "AWALT" generalizations made (especially by red pillers) on this are sub false, because they are only true about a tiny bubble of always online Americans, not the general population of people around the world.I mean to be fair most of red pill are in America as a response to women being some of the worst in the world so unless you leave the US how would they know? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 06:18 PM |
| 3 | Calling men "pornsick" is a distraction from the fact that social media has over-exposed women to choiceThe ironic thing is that women’s over exposure to options is what causes men to be “pornsick”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 06:14 PM |
| 2 | What do men want women to do when they become sexually undesirable as they age?Unable to how? All women have at the very least an incredible number of options while young-ish, if you mean unable to because nobody is good enough for them to consider than that is entirely her fault she’s single as she ages, otherwise you’d have to be stranded on a deserted island. One of the biggest misconception people have is that all men can improve themselves to a point that is good enough for women but that is far from the truth. Woman don’t need to improve themselves as men are attract… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 06:25 AM |
| – | The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issuesStop asking……for women centric solutions? I’m not sure what you mean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 06:19 AM |
| 0 | What do men want women to do when they become sexually undesirable as they age?To pick a man while you are young and have near infinite options. And as a counter to that question what do you want men to do when they are born to be undesirable at their best to women? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 02:17 AM |
| 1 | Start raising "normie" sonsWhile I think you have a point only in that if sons where raised to be much more similar to each other it would help, since the variance in men is one of the things that is so detrimental, this would only make minor changes even with every single man sufficiently socialized. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/07/24 01:52 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Men should stop initiating DatesI’m sure that’s a factor but let’s not act like without that woman would be asking out men to anywhere near half the rate men have to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 10:10 PM |
| 2 | Expecting women to be the answer to “male loneliness” is futileNot always been treated like trash and excluded just that there is no longer a viable solution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 09:04 PM |
| – | It has to be frustrating.So you are saying that “dating” only counts the people who can do so easily? If so then yeah you have a point but at that point we are only counting women and like 40% or less of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 06:29 PM |
| 2 | Expecting women to be the answer to “male loneliness” is futileNothing at all can be done morally, that’s my whole argument the solutions for both men and women to have a chance at their innate biological needs being fulfilled are mutually exclusive. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 06:27 PM |
| – | It has to be frustrating.But by that logic overall it’s harder for men on a larger scale if it’s harder to even participate. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 06:22 PM |
| – | It has to be frustrating.Men can’t have an easier time dating because the metric for dating success would be how much/easily you are able to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 06:19 PM |
| 2 | Expecting women to be the answer to “male loneliness” is futileHave a good one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 06:16 PM |
| 6 | Expecting women to be the answer to “male loneliness” is futileMen could have just not done anything at all about it in the way women would for men were the situation reversed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 06:10 PM |
| 2 | The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issuesIt doesn’t require 2 options for my statement to be true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 06:09 PM |
| 3 | Having kids with people you never trusted just makes YOU look stupid and irresponsible.As long as you’re keeping it honest | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 06:07 PM |
| 3 | The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issuesThe very argument that men are wrong for saying mental health services won’t help them means you are by definition. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 06:03 PM |
| 3 | The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issuesThat’s exactly what you are doing by arguing they pose a solution. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 05:54 PM |
| 1 | The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issuesNo, the solution cannot involve mental health services at all because they address a symptom. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 05:49 PM |
| 6 | Expecting women to be the answer to “male loneliness” is futileWhat group made the decision to give them voting rights? Unless im incorrect i thought congress was all men at the time especially considering the subject at hand. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 05:45 PM |
| 2 | The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issuesI don’t think you understand why men’s mental health is a problem. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 05:37 PM |
| 1 | Having kids with people you never trusted just makes YOU look stupid and irresponsible.Yeah, so don’t have kids at all is what you are saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 05:34 PM |
| 2 | Having kids with people you never trusted just makes YOU look stupid and irresponsible.I guess that’s the end of humanity then, oh well maybe it’s for the best anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 05:32 PM |
| 1 | The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issuesWhat you don’t understand is that men’s mental health isn’t the cause but the result of things outside their control so attempting to resolve these thoughts first is treating symptoms not the cause. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 05:31 PM |
| 5 | The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issuesThen you are just wrong. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 05:27 PM |
| 3 | Having kids with people you never trusted just makes YOU look stupid and irresponsible.So you are saying men shouldn’t have kids? Because that’s what this would mean in the end. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 05:27 PM |
| 4 | The manosphere does not care about fixing men's issuesFor mental health the solutions feminists propose wouldn’t actually help men as they are woman centric because they are incapable of understanding that it takes different things to help men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 05:26 PM |
| 3 | Expecting women to be the answer to “male loneliness” is futileI can’t see people, especially women, ever caring enough to do anything about it. Women’s liberation worked because it was men that ultimately made the change but women can’t be so generous with men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 05:21 PM |
| – | Which pill has had the most success in dating?I think it could actually be the opposite for example someone might believe blue pill if dating was so easy for them (because they were inherently desirable) that they truly think it’s like that for everyone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 06:49 AM |
| 1 | Women who say “I prefer guy friends because they’re easier to handle” are Pick Me Girls.“Pick me” girls is just a term for women that actually put in a little effort to try and partner with a man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 06:46 AM |
| – | Expecting women to be the answer to “male loneliness” is futileExpecting there to be a viable solution to male loneliness is futile. Men biologically put partnering as an extremely high priority while women put excluding undesirable men at a higher priority both of these things cannot be fulfilled at the same time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 06:44 AM |
| 0 | Would you agree that the wage gap between the genders is mostly due to women's own choices?I almost wonder if they want their pay to go up just so men will have to make even more to satisfy them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/07/24 06:34 AM |
| 19 | CMV: Men should stop initiating DatesProbably less than 99% but yeah the vast majority of women would rather never date than take any initiative/accountability to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 08:38 PM |
| 2 | Most of unrealistic beauty standards are imposed on women by other womenThey are literally impossible to be imposed by men as men’s standards adjust based on availability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 07:06 PM |
| 0 | Red Pillers should admit the Red Pill is about how to get your dick wet and leave the "grand narratives" behindI think some of it it legitimately to help men become able to partner, some probably is also just to sleep around but I think there are a lot of misconceptions about how hard it actually is for most men to partner anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 07:04 PM |
| 1 | Neither gender is more socially skilledI think men in general would be more socially skilled since they have to be compared to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 06:51 PM |
| 5 | Would you agree that the wage gap between the genders is mostly due to women's own choices?Not only their choices but their preferences as well, men HAVE to try to make more if they want a chance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 06:48 PM |
| 29 | CMV: Men should stop initiating DatesWhile it sounds good on paper I think this would just result 99% of men never dating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/07/24 06:47 PM |
| 5 | The friendship paradoxIt’s an issue for the guys that can’t be desirable enough to partner. Granted it’s an unsolvable, at least morally, one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/24 07:32 PM |
| -3 | CMV: Men who are concerned about being 'Beta-Buxxed', shouldn't complain about being 'Friendzoned'I don’t think any man should complain about being “beta-buxxed” as the alternative is to be alone. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/24 07:31 PM |
| 2 | The friendship paradoxNothing can be done. In the past this was alleviated by arranged marriages and women still requiring something from men. Unfortunately as long as the dating game remains completely free and open, as it probably should be even if it hurts men, it is impossible to resolve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/24 07:24 PM |
| – | Some People Here Seem to Really Want the "Harsh Truth." Okay, You Have It Now. What Then?The reason it’s better to acknowledge the truth, that there is a portion of men that women are incapable of feeling attraction for, is that it can at least take some pressure off these men to stop trying for the impossible and hopefully people could judge them less harshly if they knew that ultimately it isn’t their fault. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/24 07:20 PM |
| 7 | The friendship paradoxThe problem with this advice is that it does nothing to alleviate the issue of women as a whole simply being incapable of feeling attraction for a good portion of men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/07/24 07:15 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: if you aren't able to climax during sex - who's fault is that?It depends but it would most likely be the man’s because he couldn’t get himself there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 07:31 PM |
| 2 | Why do people say Tinder doesn’t work? It’s just an interface that mirrors real life dating preferencesIt doesn’t work because any time women, as the selectors, have access to more of a selection they inevitably become more selective. This has bled into offline as well making offline dating also “not work”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 07:29 PM |
| 1 | Men aren't biologically determined to be providersMen are biologically determined to be whatever it takes to partner and women require being a provider to be one of those things. And as those things they require men to be increase over time it gets harder and harder for men resulting in where we are now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 07:27 PM |
| 0 | How does one deal with rejection, negativity, lack of desirability, and female affection?You can’t deal with it as it is unresolvable, you can only try to stay strong while suffering. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Why don't women with low-esteem ever go for unattractive men?In their mind they do but in reality they’re still going for desirable men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 07:21 PM |
| 2 | Men here have high standards.Regardless of who wants who if these men are only able to have sex way down then these women still objectively have high standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 07:13 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: is it normal for a guy to feel insecure if he discovers that his partner uses toys?It’s pretty much equivalent to women’s feelings for their partners watching porn. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 08:49 AM |
| 3 | Men here have high standards.None of this says anything about the relative desirability of the women these men are able to have sex with, which in order for men to have high standards here would need to be shown that men aren’t just able to have sex but have sex with their statistical equivalent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 20/07/24 08:48 AM |
| 1 | The current rhetoric is that men and women have unrealistic expectations for potential partners. What unorthodox or off-label quirks or unconventional features do you find attractive?What I mean is that I don’t think there are few enough men attracted to any trait or combination of traits for it to be rare enough to be considered unorthodox. Unless it was something like disability’s or some disfiguring trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 10:58 PM |
| 2 | The current rhetoric is that men and women have unrealistic expectations for potential partners. What unorthodox or off-label quirks or unconventional features do you find attractive?That aside. I can’t really even think any physical traits that could really be considered unorthodox for men to like at least, maybe aside from facial asymmetry or something. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 10:50 PM |
| 2 | The current rhetoric is that men and women have unrealistic expectations for potential partners. What unorthodox or off-label quirks or unconventional features do you find attractive?I think for me it’s even further then just shy, quite and cute types while I do like that I don’t think that’s unique enough to warrant an unorthodox trait to like since I think a lot of guys probably find that to be very attractive. Maybe I’m not explaining it right, I think I mean more unconventionally socially minded if that makes sense? Maybe what others would call weird? For instance there is a girl at work who says things that are just kind of weird and hard for everyone to respond to, inc… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 10:35 PM |
| 2 | The current rhetoric is that men and women have unrealistic expectations for potential partners. What unorthodox or off-label quirks or unconventional features do you find attractive?Yeah what you are talking about is the fake “I’m a helpless girl” kind of clumsiness what I mean is more along the lines of things that would actually embarrass the person along the lines of telling a joke and nobody laughs, talking too quietly so nobody hears and you get talked over or even just saying something weird and everyone just stares at you. I mean if women aren’t ever ACTUALLY socially awkward or in socially awkward situations but just always faking it and imitating anime then I’d be … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 08:52 PM |
| – | "you are not entitled to sex. It is not a necessity" is a bad argumentThat’s why the comparison isn’t so different. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 08:16 PM |
| – | "you are not entitled to sex. It is not a necessity" is a bad argumentYou aren’t entitled to live either. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 07:42 PM |
| 5 | Q4M: SlumpBusters - myth? Or reality?Certainly a real thing and it’ll only get worse as men’s ability to partner with who he finds attractive (mostly his equal) continues to decrease as it has been. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 07:37 PM |
| 0 | The current rhetoric is that men and women have unrealistic expectations for potential partners. What unorthodox or off-label quirks or unconventional features do you find attractive?Men’s expectations can’t be unrealistic because they ALWAYS adjust their standards based on who’s available to them as opposed to women who adjust is based on her ideal. But to answer the question I find social awkwardness/weirdness/nervousness, clumsiness and women who are a little air headed to be cute/endearing, I’m not sure if this is that uncommon or not but none of my friends share the same thoughts on these traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 07:30 PM |
| 1 | Friends of perpetually single men often have a different perspective than perpetually single men themselvesYet those numbers are more disproportionate than ever before. In the past they did find success but that isn’t necessarily true after the dating landscape has gone through the biggest changes since arranged marriages were the norm. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 07:14 PM |
| 1 | Social skills determinism is not real, and there's zero evidence for it. When they aren't lying and claiming social skills don't matter for dating, doomer red pillers / black pillers seem to have recently latched on this new lie, as another way to trick guys into not improving their social skills.I only offered that as another option it’s entirely possible you were just barely not desirable enough and with the improvement in social skills you found success. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 07:09 PM |
| – | How Do You Think Pornograpy and Instagram Have Affected The Dating MarketThe effects of porn are real but it’s more of the effect not the cause as it’s the only outlet for a large portion of men, at the very least for a large portion of time. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 09:16 AM |
| 2 | What are PPD’s thoughts on Richard Reeves’ comment that childless and wifeless men comparatively “do terribly”?No because men’s priority is first to partner then second to have a good partner. What you are saying is part of what I explained women’s biological priority though. Now this isn’t to say men don’t also WANT that but if that isn’t an option partnering at all will come first, while for women they will just forgo partnering at all. (as a general rule, as with anything, there are a small number of exceptions.) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 09:11 AM |
| – | Would you rather date someone with low standards or high standards?The problem with this question is that in the vast majority of cases men can’t date the woman with high standards at all. So the question becomes would you rather date or not? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 09:05 AM |
| 2 | What are PPD’s thoughts on Richard Reeves’ comment that childless and wifeless men comparatively “do terribly”?Because for men the number 1 biological priority is to partner aside from self preservation (arguably), while for women the priority isn’t to partner but to only allow“good” genetics to continue and in the event this isn’t possible stay single. Men’s roll is to make sure the human race continues while women’s is to make genetics improve. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/07/24 09:01 AM |
| 1 | Young women today may be perpetrating sexual assault at similar rates as young men, according to recent dataYeah that’s also true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 10:01 PM |
| 2 | Social skills determinism is not real, and there's zero evidence for it. When they aren't lying and claiming social skills don't matter for dating, doomer red pillers / black pillers seem to have recently latched on this new lie, as another way to trick guys into not improving their social skills.What I mean is if improving your social skills helped you to reach the point where you were desirable enough than you already had some desirable traits it just took that little bit from the social skills, or you inherently already had a high aptitude for social ability and just hadn’t cultivated it yet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 09:46 PM |
| 3 | Social skills determinism is not real, and there's zero evidence for it. When they aren't lying and claiming social skills don't matter for dating, doomer red pillers / black pillers seem to have recently latched on this new lie, as another way to trick guys into not improving their social skills.You can improve them enough to matter only if you already have enough traits to equal out to desirable after the fact. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 08:29 PM |
| 1 | CMV: US women are entitled that is the cause for dating issuesIt’s fine to have high standards but it isn’t fine to not acknowledge you are looking for more than your worth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 06:43 PM |
| 2 | If women wanted marriage and commitment onlyAnd then they cope falsely claiming“all men do this not just the top guys/way more desirable guys!”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 06:41 PM |
| 1 | Women should avoid inexperienced men.The vast majority of women follow this rule already including inexperienced ones. Also important to note that the EXPERIENCED women has similar negatives for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 06:38 PM |
| 5 | Women simultaneously dislike men approaching because they feel treated as "romantic prospects" instead of "regular people" yet dread the moment a male friend would suggests something moreIt’s the same as the start of any relationship: the guy has to pass the very high and narrow standard women have whether he’s a friend or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 06:35 PM |
| 2 | What are PPD’s thoughts on Richard Reeves’ comment that childless and wifeless men comparatively “do terribly”?It makes some sense as the need men have for women is inherently biological (even excluding sex) this was fine when women needed men but now that they don’t it completely tips the balance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 06:31 PM |
| 2 | Young women today may be perpetrating sexual assault at similar rates as young men, according to recent dataThe biggest reason for the perceived disparity is the fact that men just don’t care as much, even if a man doesn’t want to as much as a woman he’ll just care about it less if it does happen. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 06:28 PM |
| 2 | Social skills determinism is not real, and there's zero evidence for it. When they aren't lying and claiming social skills don't matter for dating, doomer red pillers / black pillers seem to have recently latched on this new lie, as another way to trick guys into not improving their social skills.Social skills matter but you can only improve them to a minor degree higher than what you naturally have, it isn’t just something that every guy has the potential to improve enough to matter. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 06:24 PM |
| 2 | Friends of perpetually single men often have a different perspective than perpetually single men themselvesIt’s my estimate from the current number of men under 30 in relationships and being generous saying half of them aren’t trying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 06:20 PM |
| 4 | Friends of perpetually single men often have a different perspective than perpetually single men themselvesThe point is that different men’s attraction is so much more varied that it includes all women. Obviously the individual will have different preferences. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 05:04 AM |
| 6 | Friends of perpetually single men often have a different perspective than perpetually single men themselvesYeah…… that’s what I said…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 03:49 AM |
| 3 | Friends of perpetually single men often have a different perspective than perpetually single men themselvesI don’t mean the individual guy is attracted to all women, just men as a group. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 03:47 AM |
| 5 | Friends of perpetually single men often have a different perspective than perpetually single men themselvesAll data including men over 30 (and probably even then) is assuming the dating landscape hasn’t significantly changed in the last few years (which it has) so it is all outdated and inaccurate. We will have to wait a few more decades in order to actually know how many men are able to partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/07/24 03:46 AM |
| 5 | Friends of perpetually single men often have a different perspective than perpetually single men themselvesI don’t think it’s the majority of men but I thinks it’s more than people think maybe 20-30%. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 11:19 PM |
| 13 | Friends of perpetually single men often have a different perspective than perpetually single men themselvesIt means simply men, unlike women, can have inherent traits that disqualify them from being able to partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 09:33 PM |
| 6 | Friends of perpetually single men often have a different perspective than perpetually single men themselvesThan I don’t know what you mean by “is it women or is it people” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 06:40 PM |
| 1 | Which woman would you pick?Even Suzy has a laid back personality and similar humor all heather had positive was that she had similar taste in media and hobbies. I mean if you just wanted her in there as an example of a relatively undesirable partner then fair enough. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 06:14 PM |
| 2 | Which woman would you pick?Do you think finding your partner attractive isn’t cold? The only other one here like that is Suzy but she’s at least physically attractive. I think it would be more fair to buff heather to be most attracted to her partner than she might have a chance vs the rest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 05:58 PM |
| 2 | Which woman would you pick?So you’re saying the average option won’t be attracted to their partner? You might be on to something actually. I don’t really see any fewer red flags than the rest, the only difference in her being negatives. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 05:37 PM |
| 3 | Which woman would you pick?You didn’t say she’s busty you said “slightly chubby with generic fat distribution” meaning not specifically in the chest but in stomach, face, arms etc. not only that but she isn’t even attracted physically just emotionally attached. She seems to be a bellow average option all around, at least more so than the others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 05:27 PM |
| 2 | Friends of perpetually single men often have a different perspective than perpetually single men themselvesIt isn’t people because men as a group are attracted to all women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 05:21 PM |
| 2 | Women don't really have high standards, they just like the exact same guyI think they do have a degree of variance in their attraction it is just only found in a small potion of men maybe 30-40% they will find different women attracted to different men but it will always be the same 30-40% regardless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 05:14 PM |
| 5 | Friends of perpetually single men often have a different perspective than perpetually single men themselvesTheir friend’s views reflect this as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 05:10 PM |
| 3 | Which woman would you pick?Why include heather at all? She doesn’t hold a candle in desirability compared to the rest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 05:09 PM |
| 30 | Friends of perpetually single men often have a different perspective than perpetually single men themselvesAll reasons for a man being perpetually single come down to 1 reason: women do not have enough variety in their ability to feel attraction to include all men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/07/24 05:05 PM |
| 2 | What is The Minimum Gender Threshold for Unlimited Dating Options?Yeah dating just sucks for men, women have very little variance for possible attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 11:30 PM |
| 1 | What is The Minimum Gender Threshold for Unlimited Dating Options?Not for as much marriage but for dating they still do, that’s why it’s so much more difficult for bottom 20% men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 11:16 PM |
| 1 | What is The Minimum Gender Threshold for Unlimited Dating Options?For women the only limit is how high her standards are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 09:46 PM |
| 13 | Q4M: Would you rather date a smoker or an overweight woman?Probably the overweight woman because while both things are unattractive at least the damage can be recovered from being fat while the smoking is more likely to leave lasting effects, but obviously it depends on the situation and severity of both. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/07/24 07:49 AM |
| 2 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingNo you just don’t like the reality that despite being celibate you, and every other woman who wants to wait, still have it 10x easier than the equivalent man. The celibate women could be dating across easily but since she wants to date up that’s what makes it harder. Not all women can be dating up but all women dating can be by standing on the men they exclude and forgoing partnering if she can’t achieve that. Most men want a partner more the only time this isn’t true is if the woman is signific… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 10:23 AM |
| 1 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingYou keep saying that but it doesn’t make it any more true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 09:32 AM |
| 2 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingThat’s the truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 06:01 AM |
| 2 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingAs women they still have a much easier time than all but absolutely top desirable men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 06:00 AM |
| 1 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingLike celibate women having a tougher time in yours? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 05:12 AM |
| 2 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingAll relationships favor women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 05:10 AM |
| 1 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingThe resources most people use are outdated and misleading because they include people who partnered in a totally different environment and assume that the trend won’t change like it already has. In the end women control the dating market almost entirely so if women wanted there to be less hookups and more relationships it would happen but instead women have decided instead to leverage sex in order to date exclusively up, Now im sure to some degree this negatively affects the women who want to be… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/07/24 02:08 AM |
| 1 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingThis would only be true if all men had the option to easily have a relationship with frequent sex but in reality most men now are struggling to have a relationship at all. You would have a point about volcel men being more rare if you disregard religious reasons but if you include that there are more men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 11:37 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingI disagree I think the women that want to stay celibate until marriage just don’t want their equivalent partners so they either inflate their value with sex or they take themselves off the market, I don’t think they are disregarded at all by men just by the only men they would consider | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 09:56 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingNo I argue that that affects women’s desirability. I’m not advocating for it, it would be far better if nobody ever had hookups at all and people partnered up more equally/fairly overall. But that isn’t the way it has gone and the culture here is one that ultimately artificially inflates women’s desirability and causes many more men to be left out entirely. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingBut that is still part of a woman’s desirability even in a sex positive culture she’s just less desirable than she thinks she is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingMost of the gamer type guys that comment talks about don’t have a chance with any girl at all anyway, not even with the least desirable women, so it only makes sense that they would socialize with them less. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 09:00 PM |
| 1 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingA woman’s true desirability is with the men that would both start and stay in a relationship without sex because ultimately believe it or not there are things that alter a woman’s desirability outside of looks. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 08:46 PM |
| 3 | Guys here wish the only women that existed were those with nasty attitudes for a confirmation bias.Because there are less men in any sort of relationship than before. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 07:04 PM |
| 3 | Guys here wish the only women that existed were those with nasty attitudes for a confirmation bias.And more than ever being unable to at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 06:55 PM |
| 3 | Guys here wish the only women that existed were those with nasty attitudes for a confirmation bias.Same as what everyone should consider average, statistically what makes up most people. Breaking it down further you have to include below average women considering below average men too. Remember that “most people being in relationships” is not the way it’s trending anymore so it isn’t a counter point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 06:29 PM |
| 5 | Men who are not conventionally attractive, why not date a bi woman/queer women who are into men?Ok so for the bi women they are still women and still will be looking for the best guy in the type she likes, never considering anything less than the top half of average. It isn’t a straight woman trait to only consider the best but a woman trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 06:23 PM |
| 2 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingYou have to understand that the vast majority of men don’t even have the option to have casual hookups so by definition if a guy wants that from a woman then he is very desirable. If women dated average/their equal more often this would be apparent but the best way to tell if a woman only dates super desirable, way above her desirability, men is if she complains about men only wanting hookups. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 06:17 PM |
| 2 | Guys here wish the only women that existed were those with nasty attitudes for a confirmation bias.Talking to/observing women offline is exactly how to come to the conclusion that women will never consider a guy that isn’t above average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 06:13 PM |
| 3 | Men who are not conventionally attractive, why not date a bi woman/queer women who are into men?How does a man date someone who doesn’t like men?? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 06:06 PM |
| 1 | Q4M: You have 5 points. Build your dream dateit must cost 20 pts for “is attracted to me”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 10:13 AM |
| 1 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingA guy would wait indefinitely for his equal. So if a woman can’t keep the guy without sex she’s reaching. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 10:05 AM |
| 1 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingMen that only look for casual aren’t a problem if women can just not have sex with them to easily filter them out, no guy only looking for sex is going to hang around for months without it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 08:55 AM |
| 1 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingI get that you want to do that but at the end of the day finding a guy that doesn’t just want sex is as easy as simply not having sex with him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 08:50 AM |
| 2 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingWith that logic every single female that ended up with a husband that wasn’t first her friend is a god/extremely lucky but neither of those are possible. What it comes down to is that having the ability to have options to filter out will ALWAYS be a privilege especially over having none at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 06:51 AM |
| 3 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingBut the reason this falls on deaf ears to men is women have the privilege to weed out their options while most men get no such thing. So for women you can filter down your options down as much as you want and realistically find that guy out of that massive group while if a man wants a certain type he’d be lucky to get a choice at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 04:13 AM |
| 1 | Which of these women would you get into a relationship?I could see it haha. I didn’t say she was undesirable! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/07/24 04:10 AM |
| 1 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingThen don’t have sex. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 11:19 PM |
| 6 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingThe facts are that in this instance she has a low estimate of 250+ men wanting a serious relationship. And that is a whole lot more options than a man will likely have his whole life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 11:19 PM |
| 1 | I feel like, most men on here would easily resolve their issues with women and their views on women if men as a group viewed them as people and not just achievements to be made and rewards to be had... oh, and just went to therapy...Yeah it’s pretty evident that you aren’t going to understand much thought past “I think this so it must be right”. Hope it works out for you though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 09:56 PM |
| 5 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingThat’s a whole lot more than the woman that would even give a guy a chance. It doesn’t matter the ratio only what’s left at the end, which is still 250 men. Think about that she is complaining that she has likely more than 250 men seriously interested in her. Now I’m not saying choice fatigue or filtering isn’t absolutely nothing but posing this as an issue when compared to what men have to go through, is like comparing a pebble to a mountain. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 09:50 PM |
| 2 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingOk fair, so how many do you think weren’t lying? 50%, 30%, 25%? Even a low estimate of 25% not lying is still 250 men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 09:40 PM |
| 0 | People tend to misunderstand female body positivity on this sub.I wasn’t doing that anyway. People are made fun of far worse for reasons out of their control unlike obesity. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 07:29 PM |
| 0 | People tend to misunderstand female body positivity on this sub.Nobody deserves to be treated as they are better than they are or are better than others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 06:32 PM |
| 6 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingThese baseless assumptions say a lot about the type of men you are attracted to. It’s the easiest thing in the world to find men who aren’t just there for sex. Just don’t do it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 06:09 PM |
| 19 | Men Who Want To Hookup Are Ruining Modern DatingSo from 2,800 different guys over half of them wanted casual sex…… you realize that that still leaves about 1,000 men that didn’t right? If only having 1,000 men to choose from is ruining modern dating for women than modern dating for men has been hung, buried, left to rot, dug back up and thrown into the sun. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 05:29 PM |
| 0 | Q4M: We hear a lot about the "Modern woman". Describe the "Modern Male" that WE have to deal with when datingThe reality of the situation is that what women have to deal with in men is that we are too varied, most of the men women encounter will be very apart from each other in both personality and looks and even further apart from they type that women want. So that’s the problem with men: we are too varied for our own good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 05:22 PM |
| 1 | Debate: What is more important for dating as a man: being physically attractive or being neurotypical (non-autistic or "normal": i.e. being able to naturally socially conform)If you were talking about being physically attractive vs having above average personality and charisma then I would say the latter, but at the level you propose I would say being physically attractive is better because just having a “normal” personality isn’t good enough anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 05:10 PM |
| 0 | People tend to misunderstand female body positivity on this sub.I think they SHOULD face that type of criticism especially as opposed to the constant stream of ego boosting language they receive today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 05:04 PM |
| 1 | I feel like, most men on here would easily resolve their issues with women and their views on women if men as a group viewed them as people and not just achievements to be made and rewards to be had... oh, and just went to therapy...Not my fault you don’t understand analogies. If you don’t want to be treated like an achievement then don’t act like one sweetie “💅🏿💅🏿🤷🏿♀️🤷🏿♀️🙏🏿”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 04:59 PM |
| 2 | people's point of view about sex changes when it comes to modern womenIt might FEEL like that since everywhere else bends over backwards for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 08:11 AM |
| 1 | I feel like, most men on here would easily resolve their issues with women and their views on women if men as a group viewed them as people and not just achievements to be made and rewards to be had... oh, and just went to therapy...This doesn’t even make sense. Your analogy basically agrees with me by saying women can’t help but view themselves as achievements like cows can’t control what they taste like. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/07/24 08:08 AM |
| 2 | The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice.Karen is an older woman thing only. No I specifically don’t want sex, women have got the path of being as negative as they possibly can with men so they deserve nothing but the same in return. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 07:07 PM |
| -1 | Q4W: Singe- never married women, what do you want your legacy to be? How will you not be forgotten?Her legacy will be that she fulfilled her biological and successfully removed a line of genetics that isn’t above average, forcing that man out of his essentially | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 07:03 PM |
| 1 | Which of these women would you get into a relationship?Ali seems to be the least desirable on this list easily. My choice would be Karlie as I am a Christian so that comes as priority 1. Other than those points the others don’t seem that much different to me at least not in a meaningful way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Men are entirely lacking in knowing how to sexually satisfy womenI mean what do you expect when they never get the chance to even try? How many things are you good at without ever doing before? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:53 PM |
| 3 | If you could pick your child’s gender, given what you know of the world, which would you go for?This isn’t even close you’d have to choose female, the minuscule risk is completely outweighed by the advantages and massively higher change of having a fulfilling life. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:52 PM |
| 2 | The end goal of feminism is revenge, not equality. Men need to recognize this and stop playing nice.Men need to stop being nice, accommodating, respectful, etc to women in general they do not repay the favor and should be treated as such unless they show you such things FIRST. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:48 PM |
| 4 | Attractiveness matters to men so there’s no reason for them to be upset when attractiveness matters to women.The difference is that while men as a group can be attracted to literally every woman, women as a group can only be attracted to few men, always leaving some men out regardless what they do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:45 PM |
| -1 | people's point of view about sex changes when it comes to modern womenBecause it’s all about villainizing males and enforcing females. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:42 PM |
| 1 | What women say online/reddit vs. Reality is totally night/day and 180 degrees of difference.I think no matter we’re it is online or reality, women will always say something different than what they actually do/desire because at the end of the day what they truly do/desire makes themselves look bad. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:40 PM |
| 6 | The "bare minimum" is not the same as a low standardWhen women say the bar is on the floor they mean for the guys she’s attracted to, who have already passed her actual bar that is somewhere in orbit. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:37 PM |
| 1 | Insisting on the bad apples of each gender just makes discussion turn into bad-faith arguments.It’s like insisting a lottery winner is the average experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:35 PM |
| 1 | Why Do Women Demand Equality But Then Want Men Who Are Superior to them?Because the more opportunities they have to better themselves the more they can justify wanting a man many, many times superior than themselves. It isn’t linear either they continue to want multiplicatively more than themselves. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:34 PM |
| 1 | Men, especially in this sub go to extra lengths to justify their dependence on women, which is sad especially considering how indifferent women are towards men.It doesn’t work 100% flawlessly that’s why “bad”genes aren’t gone, it’s more of a progressive slow process. Women also needed a man for most of history so their need, as a group, to filter out men didn’t get out of control. Men being simps with no standards is certainly a factor don’t get me wrong there are many factors that make the dating market many times harder for men. Women’s interest in men as groups will always be much lower than vice versa though that’s why in order to be anywhere near … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:26 PM |
| 2 | Men, especially in this sub go to extra lengths to justify their dependence on women, which is sad especially considering how indifferent women are towards men.No men do this with all as a group women but women do the opposite and actually try to weed out genetics even if it means the individual women doesn’t reproduce. The reason is that if the human population were all like men you’d end up with too many bad genes but if they were all like women humans wouldn’t be around past a couple generations. Men making sure humanity continues while women trying to make human genetics as “good” as possible. So the reason women’s desire for men is so much lower i… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:44 AM |
| 4 | Men, especially in this sub go to extra lengths to justify their dependence on women, which is sad especially considering how indifferent women are towards men.With women? I’m not sure where you are trying to go with this. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:36 AM |
| 2 | Is dating a 'boss babes' really that bad as long you agree on common values?Most of the time they have such high standards, regardless of their true desirability, that no guy CAN even date them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:34 AM |
| 1 | I feel like, most men on here would easily resolve their issues with women and their views on women if men as a group viewed them as people and not just achievements to be made and rewards to be had... oh, and just went to therapy...I think if women didn’t view themselves as achievements needing to be achieved by men then this wouldn’t happen at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:32 AM |
| 4 | Men, especially in this sub go to extra lengths to justify their dependence on women, which is sad especially considering how indifferent women are towards men.Men are biologically tasked with keeping the human race going. Women are tasked with only letting the best genes continue. That’s why this difference emerges. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:30 AM |
| 1 | Just be a good person; challenge the stereotypesThis IS probably good for mental health but the first thing a man would have to do is accept that he will never partner that’s the hard part then the rest of that is easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:28 AM |
| 1 | If men actually cared about single moms as a “societal issue”, they would be encouraging men to be stepfathers.It’s very simple, single moms get a bad rap because they could have chosen to partner with whoever they wanted, a guy who would easily have stayed for example, yet still chose the wrong guy (and it was obvious). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:26 AM |
| 2 | Question For Men, Which Of These Women Would You Rather Get Into A Relationship With?All of these are very desirable in their own right but as a Christian I’d have to choose Mary. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:23 AM |
| 2 | Men, especially in this sub go to extra lengths to justify their dependence on women, which is sad especially considering how indifferent women are towards men.I think men do literally biologically need to partner more than women do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:20 AM |
| 1 | Sometimes, its not bad to be the guy a woman falls for after she recovers from a bad romanceAhh yes, just save a woman’s life it’s that easy guys! | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/07/24 06:18 AM |
| 1 | If you're a woman and you can't find a husband and kids by 40, it probably wasn't meant to be anyways.Yeah that’s true, although I think this can still be considered “standards insanely above her desirability.”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 02:09 PM |
| 1 | If you're a woman and you can't find a husband and kids by 40, it probably wasn't meant to be anyways.If a woman hasn’t gotten the type of relationship she wants by 30 either her standards were insanely above her desirability or she lives on a deserted island with a population of 1. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 02:31 AM |
| 2 | Both cities and the country have advantages and disadvantages for datingDisadvantages for dating in cities: women have very high standards. Disadvantages for dating in the country: women have very high standards. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 02:28 AM |
| 1 | Why are women allowed to have needs but men are always not entitled to a relationship?Because it’s so easy for them to get into a relationship/have a partner that they will feel more entitled to it. If you get something about as easily as you breathe then you are bound to feel entitled to it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/07/24 02:22 AM |
| 0 | The dating world is alot easier for women because most men dont have real standards.As opposed to an environment where all men rise their standards and now only a tiny fraction of men get to ever participate in any form of romance? Yeah it sucks that men are biologically forced to do these things in order to partner but if not nobody would be here today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 05:15 PM |
| 4 | Women's standards aren't high the average man has nothing of value to offer.Makes you wonder if it needs to be that way in order to work. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 05:10 PM |
| 5 | Women's standards aren't high the average man has nothing of value to offer.If you yourself were a “piece of shit” then yeah it would. The average man isn’t statistically any different than the average woman the only reason women are more desirable is because men are more attracted to women. So the correct comparison would be “if someone gave you an average meal made of affordable ingredients and asked you to eat it. Are your standards high if you refuse.” It is objectively incorrect to believe the average man is as detrimental to you as a “piece of shit”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 05:04 AM |
| 0 | Do guys ever call their girlfriends or wives out for only having 'duty sex'?Maybe but that’s not really a risk they can take they were already able to partner at all and if they let that slip it will become 0 sex at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 04:54 AM |
| 1 | Do guys ever call their girlfriends or wives out for only having 'duty sex'?Why would they? That’s all they can hope to get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 04:34 AM |
| 2 | Why do people get personally offended if they aren’t someone’s physical type?For men it’s because women “types” aren’t varied enough for all men like men’s types are so it sucks to be the type of man that is left out. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 04:31 AM |
| 8 | Women's standards aren't high the average man has nothing of value to offer.So basically women have always had extremely high, exclusive, homogeneous, and unrealistic standards it’s just that in recent times they’ve been able to keep them? Could be true. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 04:29 AM |
| 2 | The "would you rather be alone with a bear or a man?" thing is just toxic and not much of a statement.Yeah I agree, it’s basically a poorly disguised excuse to unfairly bash men. But if the choice was that both will be trying to attack you I can see an argument for the bear (unless it was like you have to fight it or something) but if it was just regular random man then obviously men is an entirely better option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 03:56 AM |
| 1 | The "would you rather be alone with a bear or a man?" thing is just toxic and not much of a statement.Is it said with the assumption that both the man and the bear will be after you? Or with the assumption it’s a random man or random bear? Because the former an argument can be made for the bear but the latter is no contest favoring the man. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 12:43 AM |
| 2 | The most toxic form of femininity is women’s refusal to acknowledge or call out poor behavior from their own genderWomen get most of their advantages from their homogeneity and with that comes always covering for each other and, falsely or not, boosting each other as a group. So I can’t really see this ever changing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 12:40 AM |
| 2 | There is nothing wrong with a man wanting 50/50 in a relationshipBeing desired as a guy is a very difficult thing to come by especially without having to constantly chase/win her over (even wile in the relationship) I hope you are able to find it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/07/24 12:27 AM |
| 2 | You wouldn't have more luck in the dating markets of the pastI’m sure some will be able to, but you have to make more than you used to in order to have this type of situation when before it was an achievable option for nearly every man. Now obviously this happened because more women needed that and obviously we can’t go back but it results in the type of men who only had that option throughout history now no longer have access to, or at least as much access to, because now even the most undesirable women would rather just make their own money and be alone… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 09:20 PM |
| – | Women in their 20s usually like guys our/their own ageI’ve only seen it the other way around. Women ALWAYS want “more” than themselves and that’s more likely to find in a guy that’s 30 than 20. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 04:41 PM |
| – | You Weren't "Put In The Friendzone", You're Just A Shitty FriendThe difference is that for men friends are MUCH easier to gain than relationships which results in men seeking relationships with women they wouldn’t want to be friends with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 07:52 AM |
| 1 | Do more attractive and desirable men tend to do less work to raise their children?Logically it makes sense as these men would have more leverage, like what most women use over men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 07:48 AM |
| 2 | Are men not also hypergamous?Because men don’t exclusively date up. It’s really that simple. Money isn’t really a thing guys go out there looking for when it comes to a partner they are far more concerned with who the woman actually is. (yes your looks are also a part of who you are) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 07:47 AM |
| 1 | Men feeling emasuclated by dating a independent and strong women doesn't make senseThe real reason is that most of these women, for whatever reason be it looks or personality, are not very desirable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 07:44 AM |
| 1 | Women's SMV is the highest in history, when will it come down?It’ll go down when women increase the variety of men they can be attracted to so it isn’t limited to a smaller portion of men. So in other words never. Women will die alone before they ever consider men that aren’t at least top half of average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 07:42 AM |
| 1 | You wouldn't have more luck in the dating markets of the pastI believe it is entirely better to be in a “beta bux” situation than to not have an option to partner at all. Having a partner I’d like would be second to being able to have one at all easily. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 09/07/24 03:08 AM |
| 2 | You wouldn't have more luck in the dating markets of the pastI think you’d have to consider anything women could even see men on because any time women can see better they will try to do better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 08:59 PM |
| 2 | You wouldn't have more luck in the dating markets of the pastIt depends, do you mean just the dating apps or do you mean all social media and basically all online social outlets because anything that gives women a wider range of men is contributing significantly. But hypothetically if this happened then yeah it could help men after a few generations of it going away. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 08:50 PM |
| 4 | You wouldn't have more luck in the dating markets of the pastNo this is wrong when women have more options they collectively rise their standards and it inversely effects men in other words when women have more options men have less and vice versa. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 04:34 PM |
| 0 | Should men who are average commit to women for a relationship?It’s better to take what you can get to at least be able to experience it or else “never to have loved before.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 04:32 PM |
| 3 | How is it that socially inept geeky types almost always seem to have long term partners who are often comparatively normal?They don’t. It just stands out when one does, enough that it’s remarkable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 04:30 PM |
| 2 | I think if attractive women had to go through the online app dating experience of an Average looking guy (5-6/10) working a normal middle class job, this would make both a great social experiment & reality show.Online or offline doesn’t matter none of them would last with what men are stuck with. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 04:29 PM |
| 5 | You wouldn't have more luck in the dating markets of the pastAny time where the selectors (women) have more access to different options they will become more selective and today they have more options than ever before, so for men it can only possibly be harder. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 08/07/24 04:26 PM |
| 2 | Hidden competition among women?I think it not only makes sense but goes even further than this, since men desire women more in nearly all aspects (including relationships) and women leverage this in order to be as selective as possible with their partners so in order for this to work for all women they would all need to adhere to the same, or at least very similar, standards hence the need to pressure other women to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 10:12 PM |
| 1 | From a woman's perspective: Being negative is a universally unattractive trait, regardless of genderAs with all other traits you’ll still find men who are into it or ok with it but on the other side women’s standards won’t allow it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 09:58 PM |
| 2 | Men and Women's opinions on porn/engagementIt’s only going to get bigger and more widespread as the number of men who are unable to partner continues to grow. The problem for women that aren’t ok with, for the most part, is that it conflicts with number 1 relationship objective which is partnering up with a comparatively more desirable guy than themselves but if they do get that guy he will need to sub out that physical attraction some how. So in the end it is a symptom of men being disenfranchised in the realm dating and relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 09:56 PM |
| 2 | It's important to distinguish between looking for a relationship vs looking for a hookupIt is certainly harder to meet the physical standards women have for casual hookups. But in this context it makes no difference to differentiate between the two because both standards filter out anyone but the upper half of average and above anyway. No matter what the category physical or emotional women as a groups standards for both are incredibly exclusive and homogeneous. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 07/07/24 08:19 PM |
| 1 | It's important to distinguish between looking for a relationship vs looking for a hookupI’m sure it could be all sorts of reasons, a big one for sure is looks, or they just have a personality that most women just don’t feel comfortable around despite doing nothing wrong. Making women feel comfortable is just 1 thing out of many though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/24 07:52 PM |
| 2 | It's important to distinguish between looking for a relationship vs looking for a hookupI’m sure there are many men that find it hard to make people feel comfortable despite their best attempts. The degree at which you can alter these traits, while possible, is limited. And in order to have a good enough personality to be desirable enough for either you’d need a combination of these traits evening out to above average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/24 06:13 PM |
| 0 | It's important to distinguish between looking for a relationship vs looking for a hookupSomeone with extreme natural charisma is simply very good at talking to people in all aspects and have a better personality type than most, they are better than most at, making people laugh, entertaining people, making them feel comfortable, convincing people, etc just overall charming them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/24 05:07 PM |
| 3 | It's important to distinguish between looking for a relationship vs looking for a hookupIt’s entirely possible, but for the most part if I guy struggles he’ll be struggling at both and is he is successful he’ll be successful at both. Most of the time the guy that CAN do casual hook-ups is the guy that women want to date anyway. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 06/07/24 04:58 PM |
| 4 | It's important to distinguish between looking for a relationship vs looking for a hookupThe thing is that the men who struggle to get either overlap, for instance if you struggle to do casual you will struggle with relationships too and vice versa, the standards men have to meet for either is very high and not that different from each other so while the hook-up guy and the relationship guy may be a little different both are above average desirable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 09:54 PM |
| 1 | It's important to distinguish between looking for a relationship vs looking for a hookupI’m not saying their standards are 100% the same for both but most of the time the complaints being made applies to both. Maybe the biggest difference is the empathy given but it’s usually little to none either way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 09:45 PM |
| 1 | It's important to distinguish between looking for a relationship vs looking for a hookupIf you saw 4/10 men hooping up with 10/10 women then those men had extremely high natural charisma therefore making them very desirable and actually more similar to those 10/10s. The facts are that yes personally is a factor but that just makes it more difficult for men NOT less because it is just another homogeneous restrictive standard men have to meet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 07:44 PM |
| 7 | It's important to distinguish between looking for a relationship vs looking for a hookupTo a degree, but it is a struggle for men to get either for the same reasons most women have the same high requirements for both whether it’s a hook-up or a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 04:52 PM |
| 2 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.Im the guy you asked for my definition. Did you want me not to tell you??? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 12:32 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.I’m not giving someone that advice. I’m not debating the advantage of that advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 05/07/24 12:31 AM |
| 1 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.Me. You asked me what I meant by decent. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 11:02 PM |
| 1 | If a relationship is transactional, it is not based on love.Most people still have requirements to their love though, it isn’t just that you can love literally anyone you still need an exchange to get and keep that love. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 11:00 PM |
| 1 | If a relationship is transactional, it is not based on love.Transactional means their is or was an exchange whether that’s a woman leveraging her innate desirability in exchange for commitment from a very desirable man in all categories or a man essentially buying a partner with money both are transactional. You can argue which ones are more morally correct but that doesn’t change the transactional nature of relationships. Transactional is also not inherently bad. The only way a non transactional relationship could look would be if neither party required… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 10:40 PM |
| 1 | Women are NOT for saleMen treat them as if they are “for sale” because so many women treat themselves as such, whether you have to buy them with money, looks or charm. Women always act as the premium thing to buy or the elusive prize to win if women didn’t maybe these guys wouldn’t treat them as such. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 07:11 PM |
| 1 | Is it possible for men to be attracted to women who are 40 plus?It’s easier for a man to be attracted to a woman for any reason than the other way around. An average woman is an attractive woman as far as a large portion of men are concerned that’s just how varied men’s attraction is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 07:06 PM |
| 2 | If a relationship is transactional, it is not based on love.Than no relationship can be based on love. As long as there are any conditions, requirements or standards of any sort, currently or in the beginning, it is transactional. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 07:03 PM |
| 0 | Why haven’t more men quit the market?It’s hard to turn away from something that is so high on men’s biological priority in life, no matter how difficult it may be for most the desire to be partnered can be second only to the desire to live. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 07:00 PM |
| 1 | Men NEED sex. The use of prostitution should be normalized, legalized, and recommended for struggling men.I can see how women have this misconception but it really is just the top or insane desirability gaps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 05:02 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.The difference is with the hobby the below average woman can partner with the man she’ll actually consider, any top man that’s in that hobby, the average or below guys won’t be considered either way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 02:22 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesWhile I agree what’s morally wrong and what can be morally enforceable are 2 separate things, it can be morally wrong but you can still have every right to do so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 01:05 AM |
| 2 | A lot of people on here are so enraged at women that I believe it is skewing their ability to be objectiveNo, certainly not more than blacks under Jim Crow at least overall, but people need to understand how high being able to partner is as a priority for men, I’d throw away my right to vote in a heartbeat if it meant I’d have a chance to be partnered especially if it meant the options even below average women have. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 01:01 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesThat’s why stabbing is against the law but the difference is that stabbing causes injury to someone as opposed to catcalling, creeps or looking can just cause you to be offended or upset are far too minor and if they escalate to an actual crime there are already laws for that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 04/07/24 12:17 AM |
| 5 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesBecause if that isn’t what they want to do and you make them do it is by definition forced. We already have laws to prevent meaningfully bad things from happening to people and to not take away too many rights. Everyone should have the right to say what they want or look at what they want in public but nobody has the right not to be offended. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 09:56 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesWhat question “men sexually harassing women negatively effecting them?” If so then sure I think it does, a lot of things negatively impact people but that isn’t how you should shape what you should or shouldn’t be allowed to do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 09:52 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesIt doesn’t matter how it impacts people what matters is that everyone has the right to say what they want and look at what they want in public while nobody has the right to not be offended. Again it doesn’t matter how it impacts people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 09:13 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesFor me personally? I don’t really care. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 09:07 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.I don’t disagree that women don’t NEED shared interests to have a relationship, women don’t need anything at all in order to have relationships, but relationships at all are rare enough for men that a shared one even with an absolute bottom of the barrel ugly women would be good enough. Yes like I said it does genuinely help them, as long as he meet the the very numerous other requirements, but just shared interests or hobbies alone for a man is just a grain of sand on the beach of what he needs… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 09:05 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesYou always have to face consequences for your actions you can’t just take away the ones you don’t like and force more on others. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 09:00 PM |
| 3 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesEverything has consequences wanting to selectively do away with ones that you don’t like is what’s happening here. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 08:57 PM |
| 2 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesIt doesn’t matter how it affects people only if it affects people. So if the woman wants to do something that affects men and face no consequences men should have the same freedom. (In the context of your scenario) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 08:53 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesBecause if women get to do what they want without consequences then so should men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 07:53 PM |
| 1 | Many men complain that they dont receive empathy, words of affirmation, and validation from women, and almost no woman wants to do anything with them unless they can exploit him in some way- resources. But they also block and avoid well-meaning female friends who dont see them in a romantic lightI don’t think they do block well meaning female friends I think what you are describing is essentially that since relationships for men have become so scarce and option less men are absolutely willing to be in a relationship with a woman they do not like but when it comes to being just friends someone they at least like as a person is still required. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 07:52 PM |
| 4 | The standards of "not fat" and "no kids" are the BARE MINIMUM, not "extremely high". Bluepillers are disingenuously abusing semantics and population statistics to try to shame men out of having any standards at all.Some of this is definitely true, but at the same time unfortunately women have gotten increasingly fat and attracted to the same men(causing the single motherhood). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 07:48 PM |
| 1 | I think it's pathetic that if you dig deeper, most of TRP criticisms about how unjust society is for men boil down to "I can't control my wife anymore"Im going to die alone without ever experiencing a romantic interaction “damn I wish I could control my wife.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 07:45 PM |
| 0 | Why do other men support societal delusion?Most of this comes from the fact that in the past you just needed to be an average guy with a couple redeemable traits and you could find a partner but that is no longer the case so people end up stuck in that mentality of the past. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 07:43 PM |
| 1 | A lot of people on here are so enraged at women that I believe it is skewing their ability to be objectiveIt only makes sense that in a time where men are more disenfranchised and unable to find relationships than in recent history there would be escalated levels of anger at the cause of it, justified or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 07:40 PM |
| 12 | CMV: Women should not have to make outfit choices based on the creepiness of malesIf that’s the case then men should be able to look and say what they want regardless of the feeling women have about it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 07:36 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.A lot of times women just think they get abused in male activities but they really are just getting treated the same as the others. Yeah, that’s why this is specifically addressing the same hobbies advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 07:27 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.A similar hobby will absolutely make a woman more desirable, men only have a few requirements for a committed relationship having a shared hobby will go most of the way personality wise and then if she really wanted the best guys she’d just need to be middlingly attractive. So the shared hobby for a woman is already halfway meeting any of the men in that hobbies standard. The reason it helps much less for men is even if they have a shared hobby that’s only 1/50 or 1/100 requirements he’d need to… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 07:24 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.As much as women gamers do. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 07:16 PM |
| 1 | What would you describe as a man repellent outfit, hair or makeup look?Yeah your correct typo | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 07:36 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Because it’s not about just being the same hobbies it’s about what same hobbies. Or would you like to keep arguing that 1 + 1 = 5 and apple is an orange and that cows bark. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 07:06 AM |
| 0 | Men NEED sex. The use of prostitution should be normalized, legalized, and recommended for struggling men.It’s the top men that only want sex. Or men that are many times more desirable than the women in question. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 07:00 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.There are not the same amount of men interested in female leaning hobbies as women interested male leaning hobbies I’m not sure why you think this is the case. Flawed logic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 06:36 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Its more about sharing a hobby that is more dominated my the opposite gender. And to what degree that advantages men and women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 06:25 AM |
| 1 | Friend Zone can be overcome in some rare cases : A woman can see a male friend as a romantic prospect only in certain situationsThe situations: last 2 people on earth, stranded on a deserted island for the rest of their lives, dude wins the lottery etc. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 06:04 AM |
| 3 | What would you describe as a man repellent outfit, hair or makeup look?Nothing men’s attraction as a whole is far too broad and inclusive for there to be such a wide scale turn off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 06:01 AM |
| 1 | Q4M: What would you change about this woman's personality in order to date her?Simply make her attracted to me as that is already the rarest trait the average guy could find. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 05:59 AM |
| 1 | Men who fear that women are settling for them and feel they may be reduced to Beta Bucks... would you be okay, if she offers a hall pass?I would be elated just to be settled for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 05:55 AM |
| 0 | Men NEED sex. The use of prostitution should be normalized, legalized, and recommended for struggling men.I think men need relationships as well, I believe more so than women biologically, so as long either are increasingly difficult for men to achieve men will only continue to suffer more and more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 05:54 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Good point, although I think that it isn’t as much that women feel indifferent just that they have so many more requirements that any single one is much less impactful. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 05:34 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Female gamers don’t receive abuse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 05:04 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.It still helps them dramatically less so than women that’s the whole post. The breadth of men women can be attracted to is much smaller than women that men can be attracted to, including personally, it is mostly influenced by how much better men are to other men. That’s why if she has a hobby that aligns with mostly men she would continue to reach higher and higher since she’s rare enough for those men to want. And remember her feelings can only be developed with guys that pass women’s ever risi… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 04:12 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Examples of bitterness or insults coming from competitiveness? This one is just logical as competitiveness requires a strong desire to win and not lose resulting in trash talk for your opponents. Not only that but this started because of complaining about “abuse” of women in the gaming world which just isn’t true at all the reality is everyone gets made fun of in the online gaming world so women are actually being treated equally. For women considering above average men as average just look at a… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 04:03 AM |
| 2 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Yeah I’m technically qualified to teach. Kicks are always cool. Haha not going to happen for me but I honestly appreciate the sentiment. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 03:41 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.You don’t consider it happening in your actual lives experience. I’m assuming you’re talking about online gaming? Those aren’t even threats that’s just normal online talk that happens daily. Simply meaningless. Men being disqualified from being considered for engaging in a women leaning hobby is more meaningful than that is, whether you want to believe it or not. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 02:18 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.I’m not saying they’ll disregard personality I’m saying at that point they will only consider guys with the best everything including personality. The difference is both are the top in their own regard representative of a tiny fraction of men, maybe the new advice should be “become the very most desirable guy in one of your hobbies and then find someone who shares them.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 02:10 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.I don’t expect you to admit it obviously or even to realize it happens at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 01:06 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Women are already desirable but women who are also sharing a male tilting hobby will be able to only even consider the best of the best that do that hobby. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 12:58 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Men who are less naturally inclined to read are inherently undesirable to you? I’m not blaming you women find far less impactful inherent traits to find completely disqualifying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 12:49 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.That why I included that little “if you can.” I wasn’t saying women that struggle to get a relationship MUST do that they certainly do not just that it’d make them automatically desirable. Me personally? I did martial arts for 10 years and that is very male dominated. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 12:45 AM |
| 0 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Idk ask the people that say “find someone with similar/same hobbies.” That is advice that is repeated quite often. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 12:27 AM |
| 3 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Some abuse and bitterness comes with competition that’s just how it goes. What i mean was that hot guys are the guys women consider average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 12:25 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Because it makes them automatically more desirable. No it makes said woman desirable enough that she will only consider the best, most desirable men that share that hobby. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 12:14 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.The choosing half. Ultimately the group that is chosen will always have a portion that is left unselected. I’m not even talking about myself as I am far more undesirable at my best than even an average man much less a “selectable”one. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 12:09 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.So you think men read less because they think it will make them look feminine? They can’t just naturally be less inclined? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 03/07/24 12:04 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Because it makes women compatibility more desirable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 11:56 PM |
| -1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.It isn’t the same because it isn’t a competitive hobby so it is not equivalent. I’d also bet most of the women there would be completely turned off of him for just being there. The irony is the men women think are average are the desirable ones. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 11:55 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.You are just making excuses because you don’t want to believe how easy you women actually have it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 11:48 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Maybe when it is fairly even numbers but that certainly isn’t true currently. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 11:47 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.I think similar hobbies disproportionately advantages normie women just as much. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 11:46 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.? I don’t understand the point you are attempting to make. Are you saying because women are more likely than men to read that men are uncurious and uninteresting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 11:44 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.The reason is because men as a whole cannot all increase their desirability in a way that matters, in percentile, because that that standard will just increase top percentage is always the top percentage. If men could be born much more similar I would advocate for that but that’s not possible. You can’t change what you like to do, you can only try them to see what you like, but at the end of the day you can just as easily still be left with only a couple hobbies you like. They certainly don’t pu… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 11:40 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Sure more common hobbies would definitely help but as it stands the fewer women with shared hobbies with men the more desirable they become and the more desirable women become the harder it is for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 11:32 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.I don’t doubt there are some hobbies that help men’s desirability it just pales in comparison to the desirability it gives women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 11:31 PM |
| 2 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Yeah, that’s why you should avoid not having hobbies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 08:23 PM |
| 5 | A Woman with ''No Kids and Not Fat'' is actually a high standard compared to the average manBut imagine literally putting in LESS effort and being top 1% effortless wouldn’t even be a strong enough word. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 08:22 PM |
| 2 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Yup, this doesn’t oppose what I’m saying. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 08:20 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Because that’s what the post is about. Do any of the post on this sub matter in the end? Why do you take issues with this one specifically? Sure it would be even harder for men that’s why I wasn’t arguing men should have no hobbies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 08:18 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.This would be ignoring that women are more likely than the reverse to have male dominated hobbies. And the desirability that is comes with it automatically for women as opposed to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.I’m arguing that women having a male leaning/overlapping hobby gives her much more desirability than the reverse. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 08:01 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.I’ll consider it an exception as not to be insulting. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.? Are you arguing less men in women leaning hobbies than vice versa? Because if so I talked about that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 07:55 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.The big difference is the automatic desirability it brings to women as compared to men. And less men in woman dominated hobbies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 07:52 PM |
| -3 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Probably not in the same way but there will always be some regardless. And like I said it comes from desirability and for men it doesn’t bring any desirability like it does with men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 07:50 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Is that what you think “women are more likely to read” means? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 07:42 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.I mean yeah? But this can go both ways, men are more likely to be physically active so women should try to be more like men too. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 07:41 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Well as a counter point if she were going for hardcore gamers I’d imagine she would be a hardcore gamer as well and have the same issues to go along with it. But with that being said you are probably right as even if this woman had the same social or personality issues she’d likely still sort through men until she found one that didn’t, since she won’t find a guy at her equivalent attractive, thus the scarcity of women in such hobbies enable her to be as picky as she wants realistically and maki… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 07:37 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Ok, that’s cool. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 06:51 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Yeah, you guys would be an example of a couple that doesn’t have very aligned hobbies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 06:50 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.This still applies to most media that has catered demographics. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 06:38 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.I’m not saying a woman would date a guy simply because of a shared hobby like I said it would only be a tiny portion of what men would need to meet. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 06:33 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.My point isn’t that you shouldn’t find someone with similar hobbies or overlap though…. Gender skewed hobbies or overlapping interests making things easier for women therefore harder for men is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 05:43 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Yes. None of this contradicts my point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.How young? Maybe it was too young to matter but ultimately it would have let you take your pick essentially. And there can always be outliers like hobbies that don’t follow this rule or exceptionally undesirable people. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 05:36 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.The point of the post is just that, that it’s harder for men to do vs women. I’m not sure why you replied if you’d rather debate something else. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 05:31 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.But their chance of meeting someone changes depending on how “weighted” that hobby is to the opposite gender. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 05:28 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Yeah, less men in female dominated hobbies was one of my points. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 05:16 PM |
| -9 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.About as much as a man would get from doing a female dominated hobby. A lot of times, even if you don’t think so, this is a result of that automatic desirability that comes with it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 05:13 PM |
| -1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.None of this goes against what I said in fact all of this goes along fine with the issues I outlined. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 05:10 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.It’s definitely way easier to talk to someone with shared interests but for the reasons I talked about in the post it’s harder for men to do that in a lot of cases because most of the time a woman with the same interests is so rare that she’s automatically very desirable within that bubble. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 05:07 PM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.No? But women are more likely to read. Yeah, that’s why I’m not saying you should have zero hobbies. I also talked about hobbies gotten into because of a partner or gotten into together. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 05:03 PM |
| 2 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.I don’t think I even disagree. My whole point was that having the same hobbies is not as big of an advantage to men as it is to women for the reasons I gave above. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 04:50 PM |
| 2 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.There probably are some people are some people that can only like those things. If those things never exist who knows what this persons hobbies would be maybe nothing maybe things completely different but in reality they do exist. This is getting pretty off topic though. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 04:46 PM |
| 2 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.A valid response, this is just for people who use the “find someone with the same/similar hobbies.” Advice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 11:30 AM |
| 4 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.That’s why I included the “if you can” part as in if you like one of the male tilting hobbies. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 11:27 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.? No, it’s about how using hobbies, as many suggest, is a lot more difficult for men compared to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 11:25 AM |
| 3 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.You certainly can but at the end of the day trying new things is literally finding out what like, you cannot just decide what you like after the fact. Just think of anything you dislike you can’t just decide to like it now. That’s not to say some guys don’t go and tolerate a hobby in hopes of getting a date I’m sure that happens a lot. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 10:49 AM |
| -1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.I didn’t realize I was talking about myself? None of this seems to pertain to the post, at this point you might as well just say “Why are we all wasting time on this sub?” Again never mentioned having no hobbies as being better. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 10:44 AM |
| 5 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.But this would be assuming men and women have the exact same chance to have any given hobby which isn’t the case. While granted there are plenty of hobbies that are close to even on gender ratio there are still plenty that aren’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 10:41 AM |
| 5 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Yeah, unfortunately you can’t just choose what you like to do, although it’d be cool if we could. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 10:33 AM |
| 2 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Remember that it doesn’t NEED to be a “girl hobby” or a “boy hobby” only hobbies with skewed ratios even slightly. Things like: cars, gaming(taking away mobile games), nearly any sport, etc would all be male tilting hobbies while things like: gardening, sewing, art, reading, etc would be more female, this isn’t even considering genre differences. So men want to control women more yet have far fewer requirements for them to be their serious partners? Yeah I specifically mentioned how I’m not talk… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 10:29 AM |
| 6 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.This would be a good example of it being tougher for men still since the pool for those types of hobbies is much smaller and contains much less women compared to if it were reversed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 10:16 AM |
| 0 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Yes I’m sure it would be. I think where you misunderstood is that I’m not saying “find someone with the same hobbies.”is tougher compared to having no hobbies but tougher for men compared to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 10:13 AM |
| 1 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Ok…..now I’m even more confused sorry…. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 10:10 AM |
| 2 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.That’s cool. But I don’t see how your situation opposes my post? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 10:08 AM |
| 2 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.Yeah, I’m sure it does to some degree. I didn’t argue otherwise. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 10:04 AM |
| 2 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.When I say women doing body building I mean full on extremely muscular women, like steroids required, not just in shape women. I’m sure bodybuilders are with in shape women, yes. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 09:59 AM |
| 0 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.What you argue would just be more of an example of getting more exposure compared to what I’m talking about though, the “just get out there” or “expand your social circle”. I also don’t even argue that it doesn’t help at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 09:55 AM |
| 3 | Having a partner with the same/similar hobbies is much tougher for men.That doesn’t really pertain to “find someone with a similar hobby.” Advice though as in they may have liked it but how many of those women shared that hobby. And even then there will always be some exceptions I’m sure if a woman’s hobby was bodybuilding then that would turn off a decent portion of the men that do bodybuilding. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 09:49 AM |
| 1 | Is Polygyny the future?Yeah that’s why I said only the ones who did. I think there aren’t that many that want polygyny ,either at least willingly, the only reason it’s like that now is because it’s unknowingly happening but the further this goes the more apparent it will become even to women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 09:44 AM |
| – | Over 85 percent of dating problems would solve itself if women didn’t go for men out of their league.Unfortunately men’s standards will always adjust based on availability so in the end women can be as picky, undesirable, overconfident and hypergamous as they want and it will never make a difference. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 08:34 AM |
| 1 | Is Polygyny the future?The future is just nobody gets together in true relationships while the women, that want them, have multiple very desirable fwb. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 08:29 AM |
| 4 | A Woman with ''No Kids and Not Fat'' is actually a high standard compared to the average manBut we do know you cannot create mass from nothing. That is all the knowledge needed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 08:26 AM |
| 17 | A Woman with ''No Kids and Not Fat'' is actually a high standard compared to the average manImagine all you have to do is literally just not stuff your face 24/7 and avoid having kids as a teen and by default being top 1% in desirability. It’s actually impressive how someone could mess up a position so mind numbingly easy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 02/07/24 08:22 AM |
| 4 | CMV: It's good advice to never settleYou just don’t understand she deserved better than the best. At this point women couldn’t be happy with a guy if she customized everything about him. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 08:01 PM |
| 2 | Women making the first move would solve a lot of the issues with modern dating.I think their preferences for emotional attraction is just as strict. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 07:25 PM |
| 1 | Women making the first move would solve a lot of the issues with modern dating.It does make a little more sense logistically since women find so fewer men attractive making her chances better but unfortunately this wouldn’t really change that much as women’s preferences are so homogeneous that they are going to run out of men they can be attracted to instantly. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 06:02 PM |
| 17 | CMV: It's good advice to never settleWhen top guys aren’t enough anymore. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 05:59 PM |
| 0 | Men below 30, would you date a woman who used to be a sugarbaby? Maybe she used a sugar dady thrice her age to cover law school fees or somethingSure. Anything’s better than nothing. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 06:42 AM |
| 2 | Q4M: Ever feel insulted by the caliber of women who show interest in you?For most men women show interest first so little that interest from any would be considered an incredible compliment by most. As long as it isn’t an incredibly below average woman showing interest to an incredibly desirable top percentage man he will not consider it insulting, far from it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 06:41 AM |
| 2 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.Because the average man is well average and lives an average life and is averagely attractive, since most people are average by definition the average man would be decent. Exceptions would be very desirable outliers could have a different definition for example what a billionaire would consider a decent income would probably be different than the average person. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 30/06/24 03:43 AM |
| 1 | Women don’t approach men because rejection for women has a much bigger stigmaI mean if a woman is even attracted to a man that makes him more desirable than her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 05:52 PM |
| 4 | The bar is on the ground for men is an incredibly toxic statementEveryone saying “the bar is on the ground for people she’s attracted to.” If she is attracted to him then he already passed the bar so this doesn’t actually make sense. Initial attraction is part of that bar. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 06:10 AM |
| 3 | Women don’t approach men because rejection for women has a much bigger stigmaFirst you’d have to address that in the extremely rare case a woman makes a first move she will exclusively do it to men that are many times her desirability in all conceivable ways. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 06:07 AM |
| 1 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.What I mean is that they will only try to connect and vibe with a desirable enough guy. The point is men do not hold out for a woman that is very desirable or a perfect fit for them because of both desiring to pair up more and extreme scarcity of options. Whether you think that’s good or bad it doesn’t matter because we cannot choose not to want that no more than women can choose to be exclusively open to desirable men (or very compatible if you prefer). | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 06:02 AM |
| 1 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.Neither I am being truthful. Im not talking about women that genuinely don’t want a relationship but the ones you described that have no need for one but then end up with someone is because they were able to get someone very desirable or at least many times more so than themselves and their other options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:21 AM |
| 3 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.Yes no man is entitled to get a relationship that is a privilege reserved for women. Entitled to doesn’t mean “should be able to”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:17 AM |
| 3 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.Pretty much the average guy, a guy that treats people reasonably and has reasonable traits based on what he was born with on a desirability level, pretty much the statistically average guy right now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:16 AM |
| 1 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.You mean the ones who have no need for a relationship but end up falling in love with someone who has everything and is in the top percentage of desirability. They do not fall in love with them they fell in love with how much better he is compared to others. It’s even less gratifying to have to become better than most and someone you aren’t just to get a chance. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 28/06/24 12:03 AM |
| 1 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.If nobody did anything at all for their partners men would still desire to have them far more. For a most guys any relationship is better than no relationship, maybe only baring extremely abusive ones, the ONLY exceptions to this are men that are very desirable. Who values their partners as a human more the group that requires nearly nothing or the group that requires everything? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 11:31 PM |
| 1 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.Men’s biological sex drive is definitely stronger too that’s for sure but that isn’t all men desire a partner more than women do, not a desirable partner, not someone to do things for them, just a woman to be his wife or girlfriend men desire this so much stronger that they don’t even need someone they like that’s how you know men need it more. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 11:19 PM |
| 1 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.If it helps, I know I’d sure pay a lot for something like that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 11:16 PM |
| 1 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.I can’t imagine how it could change as men cant change their need for women and women, as you say, have no incentive, to be open to a wider range of men. So maybe we need some sort of supplement to give men that suppresses their desire for women that’s about the only thing that could make a change. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 09:39 PM |
| 1 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.No I believe it is a biological need for men or at the absolute minimum top of the list for basic desires. I think it is a stronger need for men essentially there in order to make sure women had a man (back when that was needed) and to ensure the human race continued otherwise if men had the same instead desire to partner as women we wouldn’t be here today. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 09:34 PM |
| 2 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.They really are one of the reasons is because of scarcity, men will adjust their preferences based on availability and since it is harder that ever before men have adjusted as such. The only way it would be possible for men to rise their standards would be if it were easier to partner first, because men desire to partner at all akin to women desiring to partner with only someone desirable. There are a lot more men than you think that are in relationships just like that, although it likely won’t … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 09:26 PM |
| 1 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.No it is more than sex, I don’t really know how to explain to you the desire to have a romantic partner (this isn’t supposed to be an insult or comeback I just don’t know how) I’m sure there are exceptions and guys that can turn it off but that isn’t most of us. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 09:16 PM |
| 2 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.Because it is biologically ingrained in men to need women. This would be fine if women had reasons to still need men but if they do not then the balance shifts way too far. And just for context I don’t mean attractive, cute, submissive or women to take care of them just women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 07:45 PM |
| 3 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.Maybe the guys on here don’t want that maybe they do. But the truth is average men just want average women not cute, not alternatively attractive, and most will be absolutely fine settling for not even attracted to them. But it isn’t men who are way off in their self estimations this is a myth (at least compared to women) the reality is that 94% of women think they are above average compared to around 70% of men and on top of that men that rate themselves higher rate EVERYONE higher in other wor… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 07:41 PM |
| 2 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.I’m not arguing that women have ONLY looks, height, and money preferences they absolutely have strict standards for similarly every aspect. I agree I wish men didn’t have to be what they aren’t in order to partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 07:35 PM |
| 1 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.You are greatly underestimating the biological differences causing men to want a partner (any partner) more than women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 07:30 PM |
| 3 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.The sentiment that the bar is low for men is absolutely untruthful and even further intentionally insulting. But men wanting average women is certainly not even most men that are married to objectively average women think their partner is average they just can’t tell her that obviously. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 05:56 PM |
| 3 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.That’s what women seem to not understand the reason men need women wasn’t social or survival it is biological so no matter what happens or how dating or society changes men would still need women and asking them not to would be like asking a woman not to have a period. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 05:53 PM |
| 6 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.All that sounds good until you realize that women can only be attracted to a narrow range of those traits causing men to HAVE to act more similar or lie about who they are. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 05:48 PM |
| 3 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.So essentially we are in a place where men still need women just as much while women have lost the vast majority of their need for men until only the best men get a chance? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 05:37 PM |
| 3 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.*the amount of women equating decent to very desirable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 05:35 PM |
| 3 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.No man automatically earns a relationship. This is about the bare minimum a guy has to be to possibly have a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 05:28 PM |
| 2 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.Couple things here one is that the common sentiment especially from women is that the bar is so low all you need to be is not abusive etc, which is disingenuous and ill intentioned. Another is that the vast majority of men only require (for committed relationships and marriage) women to be, what the vast majority of them are, average. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 05:26 PM |
| 5 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.You don’t think an average guy should be able to have a partner? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 05:16 PM |
| 2 | Why is popularity and social standing in a partner so much more important to women?Everything is held to a higher standard that men have to live up to popularity and social standing is just part of everything. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 05:00 PM |
| 7 | It's not mens fault that modern dating is awful.Being a decent guy isn’t good enough anymore that’s the problem. Unless your definition of decent is upper percentile of desirability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 04:58 PM |
| -3 | It's honestly ridiculous how much easier dating is for the average woman these daysAll good points. That 1 in 5 women is likely an overestimate due much too broad definitions as well. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 06:10 AM |
| – | The whole “so you want women to date men they’re not attracted to“ is a deflection. Attraction is not static, but rather fluid and relative, and is directly proportionate to your options/abundance.The problem is that women’s attraction isn’t based on options/abundance like men’s is, their attraction is nearly identical across the desirability spectrum. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 05:54 AM |
| 4 | Why is there a belief that a lot of men have it easy?You greatly underestimate what it takes for a man to even find a willing partner (if he even can). In the time and effort it would take an average man to find a woman who would have sex with him. A woman could find 50-100 men who would be more than willing to please her in any way she wants. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 05:52 AM |
| 9 | It's honestly ridiculous how much easier dating is for the average woman these daysNo because men don’t have good quality either. So if your argument is that women of color have a lot of options that are bad (not true) than the men would have to be better than most just to have nearly no options that aren’t good. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 04:40 AM |
| 2 | It's honestly ridiculous how much easier dating is for the average woman these daysAt this point it’s probably more likely that a man will end up alone than a woman will be abused so even that isn’t really a trade off. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 04:36 AM |
| 8 | It's honestly ridiculous how much easier dating is for the average woman these daysHarder in comparison to other races of women? Sure. But still INCREDIBLY easy compared to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 04:34 AM |
| 1 | What US women want is a fantasyThe men women want do these things but that’s only a small portion of men. If a woman did nothing at all to appeal to men she’d still have her pick of average men. The reason guys are complaining now is that women as a whole only entertain the thought of above average desirable men, as shown when women complain about men not showing bare minimum effort, because those desirable men don’t need to put in effort for average women they already all want them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 27/06/24 12:19 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Most Redpill “Concerns” Really Do Stem From InsecurityThere is a difference between insecurity and being secure in your undesirability. Just because someone acknowledges their undesirability doesn’t make them insecure that would only be true if they weren’t actually undesirable. The term insecure is more true for women as very very few of them CAN be undesirable as opposed to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 26/06/24 12:15 AM |
| 1 | Women want to date men that are attracted to them but alot of them adopt mindsets which prevent it from happeningYeah, which is why most men want a relationship. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 11:47 PM |
| 8 | Women want to date men that are attracted to them but alot of them adopt mindsets which prevent it from happeningExcept the difference is many of the men genuinely don’t have other options. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 11:43 PM |
| 1 | Why do men say women who are objectively attractive are ugly/mid?Because men as a whole have a much wider range of attraction so an individual man may see a woman much differently than the next. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 11:38 PM |
| – | What are people's thoughts on "love"?Men can only be born desirable enough to have that many options and on top of that even if he somehow completely changes every aspect of his natural self in order to become desirable enough after partnering up he still hasn’t lived the spoiled life that the desirable man from birth has so he’d be much less likely to leave. Just based on numbers women can’t all have commitment from the same few guys it isn’t possible. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 06:22 PM |
| 0 | What US women want is a fantasyMen have a vastly wider rage of attraction than women so who knows what an individual man wants to be desired by. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 06:16 PM |
| 3 | What US women want is a fantasyLet’s be a little more realistic here now. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 07:59 AM |
| 4 | Sexless men should honestly take their chances and approach as many women as possibleGood way to face rejection 100 times. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 07:46 AM |
| 1 | Besides looks, what trait are you MOST attracted to in a woman?Attracted to me would be a very desirable trait. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 07:45 AM |
| 2 | what are your thoughts on age gaps in relationship?I don’t think it really matters much. For most men to limit their chances at all doesn’t make much sense anymore and women will date who and at what age they want regardless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 07:43 AM |
| 1 | What are people's thoughts on "love"?The key part here is “man I like” so yeah very desirable guys are not going to be very likely to commit as they have all women to choose from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 07:39 AM |
| 7 | What US women want is a fantasyThe type of man you claim to want is extremely common and very easy to find. Most men’s fantasy is to simply feel desired but for most that’s now unrealistic. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 25/06/24 07:34 AM |
| 5 | Men here only think they have low standards because they are blind to most things Women do as defaultThis is just incredibly untrue, every trait you listed still has many men wishing they had a partner SPECIFICALLY with those traits and that’s not even including the men that genuinely aren’t picky at all. If a bellow average woman did nothing at all to try to appeal to men she’d still have 20x more men that would see her as a genuinely good option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 08:53 AM |
| 1 | CMV: Women make for much better dating coaches than malesIt’s only mutual because the woman has to agree to be “dated” by the guy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 08:36 AM |
| 1 | Men who are trying to "woo" a woman (by working out, getting hobbies, dressing better, being charismatic/funny, getting rich, etc.) need to ask themselves if a girl would ever do that to get him.Hopelessness of a relationship isn’t what I’m arguing. A person who has gotten relationships easily will always be more biased. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 24/06/24 12:58 AM |
| 1 | Men who are trying to "woo" a woman (by working out, getting hobbies, dressing better, being charismatic/funny, getting rich, etc.) need to ask themselves if a girl would ever do that to get him.No, I am not desirable enough for anyone. Which is why my perspective is a less biased than someone who just goes off of their personal experience. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 10:07 PM |
| 3 | Men who are trying to "woo" a woman (by working out, getting hobbies, dressing better, being charismatic/funny, getting rich, etc.) need to ask themselves if a girl would ever do that to get him.That’s because women spend their whole life’s trying to appeal to men that are at the pinnacle of desirability, many leagues out of their own, if women were trying to appeal to their equal than they’d only need to be who she naturally it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 09:21 PM |
| 1 | Men who are trying to "woo" a woman (by working out, getting hobbies, dressing better, being charismatic/funny, getting rich, etc.) need to ask themselves if a girl would ever do that to get him.No but asking them to find someone who they will never likely meet is for most. Yes most adult men end up partnered or married but that isn’t what we are talking about is it? This is the whole point the vast majority of those men that end up partnered/ married didn’t wait until they found someone who was likeminded and put in the same effort they married who they were able to. There simply isn’t enough men and women on the same page, pertaining to dating and relationships, in order for this to h… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 09:17 PM |
| -2 | Men who are trying to "woo" a woman (by working out, getting hobbies, dressing better, being charismatic/funny, getting rich, etc.) need to ask themselves if a girl would ever do that to get him.Yes most men don’t win the lottery but it isn’t mutually exclusive is it. That’s because most men will never find that likeminded women who will ever put in the effort they do. So saying to just wait for that woman is akin to asking men to die alone and while yes that is a valid choice I don’t think most people, man or woman, want that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 08:40 PM |
| 6 | CMV: Women make for much better dating coaches than malesDating is something done to women. So asking a woman dating advice would essentially be asking her what is done to/for her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 08:30 PM |
| 3 | In one paragraph write what you think would be an attractive dating bio.Attractive to women: “6’5” Attractive to men: “ “ | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 08:27 PM |
| 8 | Men who are trying to "woo" a woman (by working out, getting hobbies, dressing better, being charismatic/funny, getting rich, etc.) need to ask themselves if a girl would ever do that to get him.No, I am suggesting that the relationship you propose, where a man finds a suitable like minded woman who puts in the effort he does, is like winning the lottery. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 08:24 PM |
| 5 | CMV: Women make for much better dating coaches than malesWhy would an average guy want dating advice from anyone that doesn’t have to do anything and has dating happen to them? Maybe if the guy was in the absolute pinnacle of desirability but even then it likely wouldn’t help. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 08:21 PM |
| 1 | Men who are trying to "woo" a woman (by working out, getting hobbies, dressing better, being charismatic/funny, getting rich, etc.) need to ask themselves if a girl would ever do that to get him.Maybe for a top guy but for an average, likely equivalent, guy all it takes is not to be horribly disfigured and maybe not be incredibly mean. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 08:18 PM |
| 16 | Men who are trying to "woo" a woman (by working out, getting hobbies, dressing better, being charismatic/funny, getting rich, etc.) need to ask themselves if a girl would ever do that to get him.You might as well say “you don’t like working? Just win the lottery. You have agency in your own life.” | /r/PurplePillDebate | 23/06/24 08:08 PM |
| 2 | When looking for dating advice, the best people to give it would be those who are not that different from you when it comes to attractiveness, but has been more successful than you to get a decent partnerTrue for attractiveness for women but for men you’d also have to include natural charisma otherwise it will be just as useless. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 06:55 PM |
| 2 | Women's high standards are mostly talkI think it is more that they will sometimes settle for more emotional traits, that are no less restrictive and high. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 06:52 PM |
| 3 | CMV: affluent bachelors who refuse to marry are selfish cowardsIf this is true then so are the women that refuse to date their equivalent man, and there are a whole lot more of those than men that are desirable enough to marry but refuse to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 22/06/24 06:49 PM |
| 1 | If wealth is your only USP, then dont complain about gold diggersThe problem is the men who use wealth as their only option to attract a partner don’t have any other options they are only possibly able to be selected for their wealth. What else is a guy that had already been excluded supposed to do? Wealth is the only thing an undesirable guy can increase to attempt to find some form of partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 06:37 PM |
| 2 | Can the average woman live out her every short term fantasy?No because the vast majority of women’s fantasy IS getting commitment from that absolute top desirable guy. But the rare ones that don’t involve exclusively getting the chad than sure they can easily have that, but that’s like 2 women out there. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 06:28 PM |
| 6 | Social skills are fundimental to being successful in relationships, and they are more important than looks, status or wealth.I would say that they may be just as important but let’s not pretend that that isn’t just as restricting and exclusive of a standard as looks, status or wealth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 06:23 PM |
| 1 | What percentage of men and what percentage of women do you think would be promiscuous if they are already in a happy relationship and they are “allowed” to be promiscuous by their partner?Many more women would be promiscuous as very few men even have the option to be so. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 02:17 AM |
| 4 | Men who expect the worst out of women: How would you know if you found an exception?That’s like saying “Those who don’t play the lottery: how do you know you wouldn’t win?”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 19/06/24 02:14 AM |
| 1 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?? No it seems women become many times more selective in recent times for all traits physical and emotional. I’m not even really sure what you are arguing for anymore? What I mean is that depending on where a man falls on the desirability spectrum he is much more likely to be attracted to his percentile match than a woman is. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 05:19 AM |
| 1 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?All the data you linked is far too old to be relevant as the dating environment has had objectively large changes in recent years I would even consider anything before 2015 as seriously outdated. And since men’s attraction is correlated with their opinions and own desirability this matters. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 05:02 AM |
| 1 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?That’s my whole argument that all women really need to be physically attractive, considering men’s extremely wide range of attraction, is to not over eat and even then there is STILL a not so small portion of men that will be attracted to that. While for men that is far from all you need. That’s my whole point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 04:19 AM |
| 1 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?My argument is it is not equivalent to ask why men are fat as it doesn’t carry the same weight in their desirability as it’s nearly the only thing a woman needs to be considered above average in desirability. While for men it is simply one of the great many things he would need to even be considered an option. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 01:14 AM |
| 1 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?What isn’t true? The fact that men have to be more than simply not fat? Because they do. Compared to women who are automatically desirable when simply not fat. (Maybe not by the best guys out there but by the majority of men) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 01:05 AM |
| 1 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?The point is just not being fat doesn’t make a guy desirable like it does for women, that’s why it isn’t equivalent to ask “why aren’t men fat?” As for women all it takes is to not over eat. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 18/06/24 12:07 AM |
| 1 | Why do some men whine about…As a whole? There isn’t any traits or combination of them (excluding maybe extreme disabilities) that would disqualify a woman from being desirable enough to date a large portion of men. As an individual? Who knows men’s preferences are so varied it can be anything or nothing at all. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 11:52 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men whine about…I’m not talking about a guy encompassing all of these traits I’m talking about specifically because attracted to any one of them. Women may not be a monolith but they are much more monolithic than men. That chemistry and attraction comes from a combination of those traits that I listed and whether it’s because men don’t need that same level of chemistry or they can find that chemistry in much fewer traits that is why men have a much wider variety in their attraction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 11:35 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men whine about…Ignoring obvious traits like height or success, when was the last time you knew a woman that specifically liked a man that wasn’t very smart? A man that isn’t very confident and is a timid person? A guy who isn’t very funny? A man who has very little charisma? A guy with very little ambition? A guy that isn’t very entertaining? Etc. Now you might now say “well men want those things too” but that isn’t quite so simple some men may require a few of these things but there are also a lot of men all … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 11:16 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men whine about…If you only consider the small very similar portion women are attracted to? Yes. But if you consider men as a whole then it is very little as men have enough variety in their attraction (as a group) to include all women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 11:04 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men whine about…No I actually try not to go to height when talking about women’s limited variety instead I will point to the fact that personality and emotional traits are just as selective and constricting for men to have to meet as physical traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 11:00 PM |
| 1 | Why do some men whine about…The verity women has is as a whole only e certain percentile is able to be desirable and then for an individual women will then narrow the already small subset into an even smaller hyper specific group that she considers desirable. And the group I was talking about being spoiled for choice is the first group that individual women that select from. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 10:47 PM |
| 3 | Why do some men whine about…Yes but already we are talking about a comparatively tiny portion of men (very desirable men) who can have nearly any woman they want so it only really makes sense that they will be a bit spoiled for choice. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 10:17 PM |
| 2 | Why do some men whine about…Then those very desirable guys wanted to feel desired and wanted traditional roles, and them being very desirable guys can find whatever they want realistically. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 10:09 PM |
| 4 | Why do some men whine about…That’s what I’m saying the guys you dated were very desirable guys so they had to keep up appearances. But since they are very desirable guys the novelty of women approaching first will still easily get you the relationship but not necessarily ensure you keep it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 10:00 PM |
| 2 | Why do some men whine about…Women showing interest first is very rare even for desirable guys so it’s possible that they wanted the new experience of such a thing. But my point was that it usually isn’t the desirable guys that want women to initiate it’s the average guys that usually bring up that complaint. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 09:50 PM |
| 10 | Why do some men whine about…Were these exs the ones whining about women not expressing interest? Most of the time it is separate men and the ones you dating being desirable men might be more prone to being emasculated that way. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 09:40 PM |
| 1 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?So you are arguing the tall guy? The guy with the single most important feature of desirability for men? If your argument is that skinny guys that are tall do fine then yeah I never disagreed with that point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 09:29 PM |
| 1 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?The guy at the end? He isn’t skinny he is still muscular which is the whole point of my original reply. In order for a woman to be above average she simply doesn’t over eat but for men it isn’t just not be fat it is be muscular. That’s why my original comment was how it isn’t equivalent to just be skinny for men compared to women | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 09:16 PM |
| 1 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?It’s on you to disprove it if you don’t like it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 09:08 PM |
| 1 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?Again just look at any form of survey on what body type women are attracted to. Being skinny as a guy isn’t anywhere near as advantageous as it is for a woman that’s the whole point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 09:03 PM |
| 1 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?Just look at anywhere that looks at what women find attractive and they will usually say skinny men (obviously just above morbidly obese) and if they don’t dislike them it’s usually because they imagine skinny to be lean and ripped. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 08:45 PM |
| 1 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?I’m sure there are a few that are very tall and charismatic that do I don’t doubt that. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 08:12 PM |
| 1 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?Women unfortunately seem to consider both to be undesirable to them. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 08:11 PM |
| 1 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?Most women consider skinny men undesirable as well so he would just be going from undesirable fat guy to undesirable skinny guy. But I’ll give it to you maybe he would be a bit better off as skinny but nowhere close to the same level as a women that goes through the same transformation. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 08:10 PM |
| 1 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?Yeah I agree? Putting on muscle can require eating more unless you already have the fat to turn into muscle. Sure, non of this changes my point that simply not eating too much for women makes them above average to men as a whole while for men you wouldn’t even pass any more women’s standards as I’m not talking about working out I’m just talking about simply eating less than you expend. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 07:56 PM |
| 1 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?Nothing is easier than simply not eating as much it takes literally less effort. Yeah I agree but that doesn’t make a thin woman the least attractive body type, my point was that the benefits women get for simply not eating as much is monumental compared to men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 07:48 PM |
| 0 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?But he would have to turn the fat into muscle not just lose it like a woman would that’s the point. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 07:40 PM |
| 3 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?Maybe it would to some degree sure but becoming the least desirable body type for men isn’t in any way comparable to what just not being overweight does for women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 07:33 PM |
| 0 | Why do women find it so hard to not be fat?A point to add would be that all it takes for a woman to be seen as attractive, or at the very least above average, is just not to be fat but for men this doesn’t help nearly as much if a fat man were to just lose the fat he wouldn’t be better off (especially since skinny is the least liked body type for men among women) he would have to turn it into muscle which is a lot harder than just not overeating. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 07:26 PM |
| 0 | I genuinely can't understand men who try to coax/convince a woman to give him a chance, even after he has been rejected. Like, not all guys do this, but men who have done, it, where’s the infamous male ego?I genuinely don’t understand women that want men to keep trying after they reject him treating themselves as a prize and trying to play hard to get. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 07:17 PM |
| 1 | The real reason being a pick-me doesn't work is that these women are often insecure and don't know how to push for what they wantThe actual real reason being a “pick me” doesn’t work is that only a very undesirable woman would even think to try to appeal to men in a way that gives them what they want, essentially it comes from desperation and the only woman that can be desperate for men are extremely undesirable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 07:13 PM |
| 1 | I Dated Straight Men So You Don't Have To: A Straight Mans Guide To Dating Straight MenIm just curious but does that mean in your opinion do women not understand that these men are way out of their means? Because as a guy its part of the deal to not go for the ones that would be reaching too far and instead go for those who are attainable when assessing who to try with both irl and on apps. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 07:04 PM |
| – | As a White Man, Black Women get hated for no Reason, and i never understood why this is.A lot of men don’t end up with who they are attracted to simply because they have so few options in the first place. I never said that their aren’t exceptions or even that it’s the majority of black woman/asian men that have unattractive features but all it takes is a higher percentage of people with unattractive traits in order to make a group statistically less desirable. For example Asian men are typically shorter and smaller than other races and that is near universally less desirable to wom… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 10:44 AM |
| – | As a White Man, Black Women get hated for no Reason, and i never understood why this is.Unfortunately it IS true that there are traits that are less attractive about some groups over others, of course not all of them but enough to make a difference, and listen I get it I’m an Asian guy we have it even worse as the least partnered group in the U.S. but you can’t change the reality of what people are attracted to. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 09:05 AM |
| – | As a White Man, Black Women get hated for no Reason, and i never understood why this is.Unfortunately there are just traits about some races that can (generally) hurt or help them black women and Asian men are the 2 least liked by all other races including their own. they simply possess traits that are just not very desirable compared to other races. It sucks but you can’t change that different people’s have different traits. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 08:34 AM |
| 1 | Do you care if your genes are passed on, why or why not?No not really, maybe it’s even a good thing that they won’t since my genes are no longer good enough to pass on anyway, it would just be a curse to any of my male next of kin. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 08:17 AM |
| – | How would dating world change if heterosexual men only had sex when in a monogamous relationship?Women’s body counts would decrease and they would be in “situationships” less but men would only be slightly better off since I don’t think that is enough for women to stop exclusively being open to top men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 08:12 AM |
| – | I Dated Straight Men So You Don't Have To: A Straight Mans Guide To Dating Straight MenI think it only really contributes if you were to show pictures of both you and your matches. (I think you shouldn’t do this but I’m just saying that it’s only applicable if you were to) | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 07:43 AM |
| 1 | Men want fairness in mainstream culture and discourse, not any female subjugation or violation of women's autonomy.When something is objectively true it is objectively true I don’t know what else to tell you. It’s also important to remember that things do change and the pendulum has been pushed much too far in the other direction. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 17/06/24 06:47 AM |
| 0 | Men want fairness in mainstream culture and discourse, not any female subjugation or violation of women's autonomy.The difference is there isn’t a group as privileged as women are. Because it’s talking about ACTUAL inequality not just suggesting victim hood in order appeal to a group that is actually privileged. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 10:14 PM |
| 1 | "I tried dating apps as a woman and it was harder than expected!" (videos)Probably going to be hard to find because any male that does this will find it to be easier….. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 09:20 AM |
| 0 | Men want fairness in mainstream culture and discourse, not any female subjugation or violation of women's autonomy.When a group is as privileged as women are any semblance of equal treatment will feel like oppression. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 16/06/24 09:15 AM |
| 3 | Is therapy a valid solution for men coping with dating complexities?Therapy may work for women because the vast majority of problems they could have in dating comes from their own attitude/mentality but for men this isn’t the case the problems men face are mostly external and out of his control. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 15/06/24 07:08 PM |
| 5 | Would you trade your gender’s dating struggles?“Prospects of long term commitment being slim to none” isn’t true for women though men have less access to casual AND serious long term. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 07:51 AM |
| 1 | CMV: If you want women to be open about their preferences, stop treating them as dealbreakers.Just think of any negative trait physical or emotional and it won’t disqualify a woman from serious relationships but there are many that completely exclude men. If your “real world” is different than you must be in one nice alternate reality. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 06:40 AM |
| 1 | Women would rather share a successful married man than an average single manJust take what you got and be happy you got someone to choose you whatever the reason you may be chosen for. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 14/06/24 06:36 AM |
| 1 | Women would rather share a successful married man than an average single manIs it possible? Sure, But I think it’s MUCH more likely she just is a rare exception that considers a different type of guy as more desirable. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 07:18 PM |
| 1 | Women would rather share a successful married man than an average single manAn exception doesn’t mean very much at all. It doesn’t mean that there are a couple women out there that consider different men more desirable as opposed to the rest. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 07:15 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Women have it harder in datingNope | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 06:54 PM |
| 7 | CMV: If you want women to be open about their preferences, stop treating them as dealbreakers.Take sex away completely and men will still find a wider range of women they would marry both emotionally and physically. While women have very restrictive and similar base standards for personality and physique. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 06:52 PM |
| 1 | Women would rather share a successful married man than an average single manI don’t think women ever date down and maybe rarely date across. Not limited to looks, if you see a pairing with a less physically attractive guy he has something other that looks that makes him more desirable than her. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 06:42 PM |
| 0 | CMV: Women have it harder in datingNot in the context of “in dating”. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 06:39 PM |
| 1 | Decay in social norms and community morals are more to blame than any genderUnless that gender caused the decay in social norms and morals. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 06:24 PM |
| 1 | Men put WAY too much stock on trying to get women.Men would treat women as rewards if women didn’t treat themselves as such. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 06:21 PM |
| 1 | Women would rather share a successful married man than an average single manI’m not sure they would rather KNOWINGLY do so (they certainly do so unknowingly) but I think rather if they knew that the much more desirable guy than them was just stringing them along they’d just choose to be alone over being with her equal. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 06:04 PM |
| 7 | CMV: If you want women to be open about their preferences, stop treating them as dealbreakers.The difference is most women have the same or VERY similar standards while men as a whole have such a wide variety that it includes all women. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 05:59 PM |
| 1 | CMV: Women have it harder in datingThe only things that matter are options, ability to get a date and ability to keep a partner. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 13/06/24 05:55 PM |
| 1 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.Indiscrimination sure but indiscretion is wrong that would mean that men would be actively seeking any and all women at the same time which is not only incorrect but only a tiny portion of men COULD even do that. Food and drink? Generally people see picky eaters as worse than people that’ll eat anything. Spending? Again indiscretion is wrong so the correct comparison is someone who is only happy buying the best for someone happy with a wide variety of expenses. Music, art, literature and media? … | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 06:12 AM |
| 1 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.The unfortunate truth. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 12/06/24 05:55 AM |
| 1 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.And those men are making up for it substantially with other traits like charisma, money, humor etc. that’s the point the only men sub 4 that are able to partner at all are the ones that are born with traits that make up for it. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 07:12 PM |
| 1 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.Exactly so that means you consider men having a much wider range of women they can be attracted to both emotionally and physically morally reprehensible? Remember I’m not talking about casual sex I’m talking about even relationships and yes marriage. And those “sluts” will still have no problem finding someone seriously interested at the end of the day especially compared to a man of similar low desirability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 07:08 PM |
| 1 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.So you are only accounting for looks? | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 06:58 PM |
| 2 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.Not when women as a whole’s standards exclude men towards the bottom of desirability and men’s do not it isn’t. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 06:42 PM |
| 1 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.So if you have an unattainable standard, be it an undesirable guy wanting his equal or somebody wanting an unreasonably rare person, this does actually condemn them to a life of loneliness. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 06:25 PM |
| 1 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.So your argument is that men’s only variance is for dating in a morally responsible way? Men’s variance in preference includes all women as a group both physically and emotionally. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 06:21 PM |
| 2 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.That isn’t the point. The point is that not all standards are healthy and result in being less single. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 06:17 PM |
| 1 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.The evidence of men being attracted to more women is simply that there are virtually no women that cannot attract any men while the reverse is far from true that is all that is needed. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 05:51 PM |
| 1 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.Not the same just much more similar than men are at the very least in their relationship preferences. That’s the issue men’s wide verity ensures every woman, except extreme exceptions, are included but the same cannot be said for men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 05:44 PM |
| 3 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.Certainly not a monolith but objectively more similar than men. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 05:40 PM |
| 2 | Men Need to Embrace Scarcity.So if a man’s standards were that he wanted a girlfriend that was a 7ft tall+ supermodel and he held firm on them his whole life would he be healthier and less single? (And yes the less single part is of great importance) This only works if you have the ability to attain those standards otherwise holding firm to impossibility’s is much more lonely and unhealthy. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 05:39 PM |
| 1 | Which women are allowed to be picky?While anyone can be as picky as they want the only woman that have reasonable standards are the top percentage attractive ones (20-30%) as they are the only women asking for men within their realm of desirability. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 05:18 PM |
| 1 | Why do men insist women are too picky?I try not to say “too picky” as anyone can be as picky as they want, but it’s true that women are much pickier than men both physically and emotionally. It’s measured by women having a much smaller more similar range of men they can be attracted to as a whole. | /r/PurplePillDebate | 11/06/24 04:52 PM |
| – | If men who hide their baldness are considered unattractive, are women who use bra pads considered unattractive as well?Men who can be attractive bald are compensating with other traits that are very desirable and maybe some are insecure and I agree that women certainly won’t tolerate insecurity. But on the other hand men don’t have the same intolerance for insecurity and most won’t mind at all in fact I’d argue insecurity > overconfidence in most men’s eyes. Not only that but anyone would be less likely to be insecure if there is more people attracted to their traits compared to someone who has a trait that is u… | /r/PurplePillDebate | 10/06/24 07:24 AM |
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